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    As a man, I've probably been mansplained to more than 98% of women have, precisely because men sense that I may very well be interested in their extremely detailed explanations of things of zero concern to me personally. Which I often am. Perhaps mansplaining is the fault of guys like me because we tend to...
  • @Wilkey
    @Kylie


    I do not contribute to his thrice-yearly fundraisers because I’m a senior on a fixed income and live very modestly (no cable, no car, no red meat, usually spend far less than $100 a year on clothes, shoes and makeup). What extra money I have goes to animal rescue.
     
    This is silly. There are plenty of people (and governments) giving money to animal rescue. Not enough people giving money to iSteve. If you get joy or value from his labors, you should contribute. Don’t think of it as a donation. Think of it as a subscription. I would like to give more than I do - I got kids to feed - but I do give, and it’s budgeted every year.

    Replies: @Kylie

    “There are plenty of people (and governments) giving money to animal rescue.”

    Plenty maybe, but not nearly enough. The plandemic created terrible hardships for dogs. People got lonesome during lockdown, adopted pets, then when lockdown was over they dumped their new pets, either in shelters or just on roadsides. Rescues are really struggling. I’ve been sharing dogs on Facebook for nearly ten years and for the first time I’m seeing shelters and rescues closed to intake. I take leave to doubt you have any idea of how dire the situation is.

    I will consider what you say about the difference between a subscription and a donation. But my prioritizing animal rescue work is not in the least silly. Alleviating the suffering inflicted on animals by humans is a calling for me. I go without not just things I want but things I need in order to do it.

    • Thanks: HammerJack
  • @Adolf Smith
    @Kylie

    As a longtime Steve fan,I recall the first time he ever allowed comments on his blog.
    It was quite a show,as the comments were posted immediately, without moderation.
    It was hilarious,as certain commentators,and I bet you can name one or two of them,gave full vent to their commentary id!
    Lots of CAPITAL LETTERS AND !!!!! It was too funny to last,( not that the guys didn't have good points,its just that the point and sputter is not his style) and soon the current system was adopted.
    It is what it is and we must learn to live,to love,to laugh regardless.
    Now have I explained---oops, sorry!😉

    Replies: @Kylie, @Reg Cæsar, @Sam Malone

    “Now have I explained—oops, sorry!”

    Lol! No need to apologize, please do go on. (And on and on, if you like.)

    I like people explaining things to me. (Yes, Alden, men are people, too.) There’s so much I don’t know. Just last week, I asked the guy who set up my laptop what the difference between a router and a modem is. And now I know.

    If I already know something someone is explaining, I’ll pipe up and say “Oh, you mean thus-and-so?”. I’ve never yet had anyone get snippy about that.

    Sometimes I just let them talk because 1) I see they’re not trying to patronize me, they’re just passionate about the subject or 2) even though I know the gist of it, I can tell I’m going to learn more.

    I really do not get what all the fuss is about

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Kylie

    Heh, I remember way back in the Stone Age when I was a drunk teenager and I didn't know jack shit about anything...., so then I went to this kooky weird place called Harvard where they sat down and patiently explained things to me.

    And now, mysteriously, I know a lot of stuff about a lot of stuff. I probably couldn't do a kidney transplant for you, (but maybe I could, in a pinch!), but the rest of it, I kinda-sorta got yer back. Funny how that works.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Kylie


    Just last week, I asked the guy who set up my laptop what the difference between a router and a modem is.
     
    I'm not sure myself, but I know the difference between the router in the home office and the router in the workshop. And the pronunciations thereof-- which my Midwestern neighbors are not.

    The router-- that router
    that's next to the computer--
    is there because it
    routes
    (once the user boots.)


    https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-1240w,f_auto,q_auto:best/newscms/2023_06/3594232/230210-wifi-routers-bd-2x1.jpg


    In case there's any doubts,
    the other router
    routs.


    https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.onecms.io%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F49%2F2022%2F07%2F14%2F283-Tools-MaterialsRouterMain-2000.jpg

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Kylie

    The device in your house that you get from your ISP (e.g., Comcast) is both a modem and a router. The modem modulates and demodulates the signal to and from your ISP. Think of it as de/encryption. The routers ensures that traffic from your laptop (a page request from your browser, for example) goes back to your laptop and not your Xbox.

    It also does other things such as maintaining a firewall to protect against malicious attacks.

    I can mansplain port forwarding to you if you're still awake. ;-)

  • From The Oregonian: Oregon again says students don’t need to prove mastery of reading, writing or math to graduate, citing harm to students of color Updated: Oct. 19, 2023, 10:23 p.m.|Published: Oct. 19, 2023, 6:16 p.m. By Sami Edge | The Oregonian/OregonLive Oregon high school students won’t have to prove basic mastery of reading, writing...
  • @Stan Adams
    @Kylie

    You’re welcome.

    That link covers the first four seasons. If you check the comments there’s a link for seasons five and six.

    Replies: @Kylie

    Excellent, thanks again.

    I was disappointed to see only Season 1 of LITB is available there. Still a valuable resource.

  • As a man, I've probably been mansplained to more than 98% of women have, precisely because men sense that I may very well be interested in their extremely detailed explanations of things of zero concern to me personally. Which I often am. Perhaps mansplaining is the fault of guys like me because we tend to...
  • I guess I don’t actually understand what “mansplaining” is. Can anyone* here explain it to me?

    *Anyone but you, Alden.

    • Replies: @Charlotte Allen
    @Kylie

    Hi Kylie:

    Here's what I, as a woman, think mansplaining is: giving women verbal information that they're not really interested in hearing. Women have extremely short attention spans, and their interests mostly revolve around other people: the men in their lives and the other women in their lives who get in their way. So, when a woman asks a knowledgeable man, say, a history buff, about the Crimean War, he will often tell her everything: the causes, the major players, the geography, the politics, the historical forces, the effect on subsequent geopolitical relations, etc. It will be in many cases an excellent explanation: clear, logical, orderly, and informative. But a few sentences into it, the woman will be going zzzzzzz. That's the way women are.

    The problem is compounded when a woman suspects that the man doesn't think much of her brains--for example, that his actual interest is in her bust line. As Lord Chesterfield could tell you, this is a fatal mistake for a man. And the fact that men, who can be very competitive about their stores of knowledge (see birdwatchers), often can't help injecting a note of boastful superiority and even condescension into their explanations.

    Finally, there is the feminism factor: interpreting everything a man says or does that involves a woman as some variety of misogyny and then complaining about it.

    Charlotte

    Replies: @rebel yell, @anonymous

  • @Achmed E. Newman
    As to your first part here, I agree completely. I'm not always as good a listener as you, it sounds, because I get a feeling I know it all sometimes. ;-}

    However, your good point is that women who vagcomplain about getting long explanations for things are basically saying that they don't want to hear about logic and reason. They want what they want, that's all, like a toddler. That's today's university grad students and wymyn of power. I've had enough of them.

    Replies: @SFG, @AnotherDad

    There’s the top level sex differences in interest issue–things vs. people; understanding things vs. social relationships. (I doubt women have the same complaint about another woman sharing the gossip they already know.)

    But there are no doubt a slew of other contributors. Guys–especially nerdy ones–are in general worse at social comprehension–“reading the room”, reading faces. Some will drone on with their thoughts without taking in reaction, interest level. (I’ve done it.) And female reactions/faces are not the same as male ones, so easier for guys to misread. TBut the flip side of “mansplaining” is the “left out of the loop” and “boys club” complaint. Bottom line: women have pushed into traditionally male workplaces and the different male and female modes of communication aren’t always in sync.

    ~

    The real core of it–and a real problem for the West–is that we have a lot of women–“the girls with BAs”–who think they are on top of it. Are “tough”, “smart”, “sensible”. Have it figured out and know “what needs to be done”. And think their problem–getting more pay, getting a promotion– is men in the way.

    But the truth is otherwise.

    If women did not show up for their jobs tomorrow, we’d have a crisis–there would be significant carnage in the hospitals–we’d have to peel off a bunch of guys to handle the kids in school, or send ’em home, and a lot of guys would have to spend cycles answering the phone, coordinating, handling customers, instead of the doing the work they do and overall efficiency would drop.

    If men did not show up for their jobs tomorrow, by we’d have an immediate disaster–power, water, sewers in crisis. By midmorning law and order would be fraught. By the afternoon utter mayhem–looting, arson, murder and rape. By nightfall our cities would be in flames and the Chinese would be launching their rushed invasion.

    • Replies: @Mike Conrad
    @AnotherDad


    By nightfall our cities would be in flames and the Chinese would be launching their rushed invasion.
     
    The Chinese will probably have better things to do than to invade this train wreck of an ex-nation. I do think they'll be consolidating their Asian co-prosperity sphere but they have more sense than to take the reins of this mess. And they already get whatever they want of our tech.

    Oh and Steve, my post from 9 hrs ago is still being withheld while you let corvinus sail right through. Naah, that's not inattention.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  • an insidious conspiracy to cover up the Mansplanation Conspiracy

    Sounds like a case for…

    THE MANSPLAINERS OF UNZ

    Headquarters is rumored to be a 46-foot Alden docked at an undisclosed location.

  • @Henry's Cat
    Do you deny that you give preferential moderation treatment to panhandling contributors?

    Replies: @SFG, @jb, @Erik L, @Kylie, @Corvinus, @Hibernian

    “Do you deny that you give preferential moderation treatment to panhandling contributors?”

    If by “preferential moderation treatment”, you mean posting a contributor’s comments routinely and promptly, Steve gives me that treatment and has for many years.

    I do not contribute to his thrice-yearly fundraisers because I’m a senior on a fixed income and live very modestly (no cable, no car, no red meat, usually spend far less than $100 a year on clothes, shoes and makeup). What extra money I have goes to animal rescue.

    I have no idea what criteria Steve uses as moderator but I suspect they have to do with exactly what he says–his whims. If you are implying he gives preferential treatment based on monetary donations, I find that absurd.

    • Troll: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
    @Kylie

    Send me $10 and I'll agree with you.

    , @Adolf Smith
    @Kylie

    As a longtime Steve fan,I recall the first time he ever allowed comments on his blog.
    It was quite a show,as the comments were posted immediately, without moderation.
    It was hilarious,as certain commentators,and I bet you can name one or two of them,gave full vent to their commentary id!
    Lots of CAPITAL LETTERS AND !!!!! It was too funny to last,( not that the guys didn't have good points,its just that the point and sputter is not his style) and soon the current system was adopted.
    It is what it is and we must learn to live,to love,to laugh regardless.
    Now have I explained---oops, sorry!😉

    Replies: @Kylie, @Reg Cæsar, @Sam Malone

    , @Wilkey
    @Kylie


    I do not contribute to his thrice-yearly fundraisers because I’m a senior on a fixed income and live very modestly (no cable, no car, no red meat, usually spend far less than $100 a year on clothes, shoes and makeup). What extra money I have goes to animal rescue.
     
    This is silly. There are plenty of people (and governments) giving money to animal rescue. Not enough people giving money to iSteve. If you get joy or value from his labors, you should contribute. Don’t think of it as a donation. Think of it as a subscription. I would like to give more than I do - I got kids to feed - but I do give, and it’s budgeted every year.

    Replies: @Kylie

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Kylie

    Why no read meat?

    Healthy life-style or finances?

  • From The Oregonian: Oregon again says students don’t need to prove mastery of reading, writing or math to graduate, citing harm to students of color Updated: Oct. 19, 2023, 10:23 p.m.|Published: Oct. 19, 2023, 6:16 p.m. By Sami Edge | The Oregonian/OregonLive Oregon high school students won’t have to prove basic mastery of reading, writing...
  • @Stan Adams
    @Kylie

    https://archive.org/details/PDTV0144

    Replies: @Kylie

    Thank you!

    I don’t know why I didn’t think to check the Internet Archive. It has the first season of “Leave It to Beaver”, among other cultural gems.

    Anyway, thanks for the link.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Kylie

    You’re welcome.

    That link covers the first four seasons. If you check the comments there’s a link for seasons five and six.

    Replies: @Kylie

  • @Achmed E. Newman
    @Kylie

    Yeah, and I know you like him, Kylie, but I just watched Lance White in the last episode of Season IV of The Rockford Files, and I gotta say he really screws up Jim's investigations. Jim ended up with a rifle round hole in the passenger side door of his Firebird because of this prima donna. Hopefully, it'll be repaired by Season V.

    Replies: @Kylie

    “I just watched Lance White in the last episode of Season IV of The Rockford Files, and I gotta say he really screws up Jim’s investigations. Jim ended up with a rifle round hole in the passenger side door of his Firebird because of this prima donna.”

    But Lance was okay, right?

    That settles it. I’m getting the whole series on DVD. None of this going to a liberry with some old woke bat in charge to borrow the DVDs. Lance deserves better. So does JSR, for that matter.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Kylie

    https://archive.org/details/PDTV0144

    Replies: @Kylie

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Kylie


    None of this going to a liberry with some old woke bat in charge to borrow the DVDs.
     
    Just getting my money's worth, Kylie. That's be a small part of the $80 million or so bond issue that I voted against 5 years ago or more, voted in by those who love to spend OPM. It was used for big renovations that made the branch library and the main one... the same size with different furnishings.

    See the 1st segment of 3 minor doses of stoopiditee. It all adds up, though. and More stupidity at the library - the big one. From the latter post:


    Back to the short story, I walk into this big new 20-year old library because the local branch is undergoing major renovations to its new brick building and nice interior. I noticed that this whole new main branch was completely rearranged and remembered that it had been a multi-year project with lots of inconvenience and moving around of books and computers. Nothing was in the same place. I asked one of the librarians dicking around working in the front:

    "Hey, I see they spent a lot of time and money here - tell me what's new."

    "Everything's new." he said, pointing at the new walls and the lack of the old walls, I guess.

    "No, I mean what's new that we didn't have before - some new things, I mean."

    "All of it - see all the new stuff." He pointed to the walls again. "The video room is over there now. Things are all different."

    "Yeah, I see the escalators are the only things in the same place. Why'd stuff just get moved around? Is this just a way to spend the 82 Million dollars that the idiot taxpayers voted for?"

    "No, it was a bond.", the PBS-broadcaster-looking guy explained to me.

    "Yeah, so it's 82 Million plus interest!"

    The guy was getting pissed. I was getting pissed.

    "A friend of mine was going to get a new truck, but the property tax was gonna be too high. He's gonna buy used just because of all this money you people are spending."

    "So?"

    The guys and ladies (a lady was next to him listening and once in a while saying, in some odd accent, something about "this is all new.") who work in these local government jobs cannot relate this blowing of our tax dollars to anything bad. It's just government money. I had tried to explain, to no avail, and now I don't even want to see that guy again, but the local branch is closed.
     

    Luckily, there are no old woke bats at the branch near us. They may be woke though - not stopping me from wearing my DeSantis hat, - but they're very nice to us because we come a lot and they really don't have so many people to see. It's an easy, stress free gig.
  • One of the funnier positioning ploys is how Richard Hanania, the former Richard Hoste, has (at least so far successfully) fortified himself against cancellation as an "extremist" by going all in on Bryan Caplan's Open Borders craziness. Hanania writes: Uh ...
  • It’s a totally rational result. The white population is always going to be split nearly in half with liberals vs conservatives. Remove the minorities and liberals lose power. We don’t need or want any minorities in the mix. We can live with different ideas since the best ones win out in the end. Simply having an over crowded country with more whites but even more minorities is a prescription for hell. If there is no racial grievance industry in the mix, we live in a more agreeable and stable country. The power of government would also shrink without the need for coddling the minority population. Sounds exponentially better.

    • Agree: Kylie, Pastit, Frau Katze
  • From The Oregonian: Oregon again says students don’t need to prove mastery of reading, writing or math to graduate, citing harm to students of color Updated: Oct. 19, 2023, 10:23 p.m.|Published: Oct. 19, 2023, 6:16 p.m. By Sami Edge | The Oregonian/OregonLive Oregon high school students won’t have to prove basic mastery of reading, writing...
  • @R.G. Camara
    I never had strong opinions about Oregon before Portland as an uber-left city became a meme.

    After 2020, I really don't care about that terrorist-loving state.

    Replies: @Kylie, @bomag

    “I never had strong opinions about Oregon before Portland as an uber-left city became a meme.”

    I never had strong opinions about Oregon before I visited it and its uber-left city, Portland.*

    “After 2020, I really don’t care about that terrorist-loving state.”

    Oh, I care greatly what happens to it, believe me.

    *Cue Achmed E Newman and his male-brain chiming in to extoll the beauty of scenic Oregon

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Kylie

    Yeah, and I know you like him, Kylie, but I just watched Lance White in the last episode of Season IV of The Rockford Files, and I gotta say he really screws up Jim's investigations. Jim ended up with a rifle round hole in the passenger side door of his Firebird because of this prima donna. Hopefully, it'll be repaired by Season V.

    Replies: @Kylie

  • I've been noting for several years the unintentionally hilarious rise of the Black Rest movement. For example, from the new issue of The New Yorker:
  • @jb
    @Kylie

    Oh nuts, I was hoping nobody else had made that joke but I guess it was too obvious.

    Replies: @Kylie

    “Oh nuts, I was hoping nobody else had made that joke but I guess it was too obvious.”

    Lol! Couldn’t resist, it has such fond associations for me. “Nappy” reminds me of Steve’s use of “stabby”, which just tickles me no end.

    And of my old friend’s favorite insult, “snaggle-toothed, nappy-headed black mother******”. Say it out loud. It has real ring to it.

  • One of the funnier positioning ploys is how Richard Hanania, the former Richard Hoste, has (at least so far successfully) fortified himself against cancellation as an "extremist" by going all in on Bryan Caplan's Open Borders craziness. Hanania writes: Uh ...
  • It means we see the value of two things:

    1) A wonderful, temperate, rich continent that is not heavily populated (one that thus remains as it was bequeathed to us by our ancestors) and,

    2) A majority White nation, with all the cultural, intellectual and inborn-character-dependent qualities of its citizens therein.

    This is so obvious that I feel useless and tired even writing it. I think I’ll go lie down…

    • LOL: Kylie, Redneck Farmer
    • Replies: @White Only Minecraft Server
    @Buzz Mohawk


    1) A wonderful, temperate, rich continent that is not heavily populated (one that thus remains as it was bequeathed to us by our ancestors) and,
     
    What's wrong with being heavily populated? Japan's becoming less and less heavily populated. It's not pretty. Underpopulation is the real problem.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Mr. Anon, @AnotherDad, @Pastit

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Yes. Not to mention the fact of political power. Fringe Americans have little to fear from a white majority*, while whites have reasons to be concerned about living in places dominated by black and brown people, as various events of recent years have shown.

    As I mentioned before, Hanania can do stats, but is otherwise not so smart. His take on this issue is like a poor high school debating gotcha point.




    * While I believe this to be the case now, we must remember that whites did drive feather Indians off their land. But in current year culture, no white Americans, even nationalist types, are actually going to do anything to minorities. I would deport and "de-citizen" most of the people who have immigrated to the US in recent decades, but I am an extreme outlier, I think. Also, I don't consider deporting people to the place they were born to be unjust or much of a burden.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @mc23
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Lets pose the question to the Israeli's. Would you rather have 10 million people where 75% are Jewish or add several million Palestinians for a population of 15 million people where 50% are Jewish?

    I don't begrudge the Israeli's answer to preserve their ethno-state based upon a shared heritage.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @Rob Lee
    @Buzz Mohawk

    May I touch your hair when you're done napping?

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  • An interesting question is: Has Woke peaked? As evidence in the affirmative, during last November's election, the mainstream media appeared to get the message from the White House to shut up about George Floyd and the Racial Reckoning in the hard news section of the newspapers. On the other hand, in the back pages, the...
  • @Art Deco
    Art museums are a segment of the culture industry dedicated to providing evidence toward Ayn Rand's thesis that goods and services peddled by nonprofits are peddled by nonprofits because they aren't worth anything.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @J.Ross

    Art museums are a segment of the culture industry dedicated to providing evidence toward Ayn Rand’s thesis that goods and services peddled by nonprofits are peddled by nonprofits because they aren’t worth anything.

    Before their takeover by the termites that are trying to destroy our civilization they were equally non profit and they were well worth visiting.

    • Thanks: Kylie
  • Has Woke Peaked? the Black Power Nap Case Study

    • LOL: Kylie
  • Anonymous[246] • Disclaimer says:

    An interesting question is: Has Woke has peaked?

    Just because the use of blacks has peaked, doesn’t mean “Woke” (the genocidal anti-White agenda) has peaked. Blacks are used against White people where, and to extent that, it seems blacks could be useful. If that tool results in more cost than benefit, if a hand is overplayed, it will be discarded.

    By the way, every mention of “woke” should be replaced with “anti-White”, in your head, in writing, in conversation.

    Clarifying precision in rhetoric.

    • Replies: @Hail
    @Anonymous

    The rhetorical question "Has Wokeness Peaked" is an exercise in the popular-understanding of the meaning of "Begging the Question."

    The most-important 'begged' question therein is: "What is Wokeness"? Another question would be: "What is 'peaked' supposed to mean here?"

    "Wokeness" is, I think, most-usefully defined not as a series little political-cultural manias or fads, but something more total.

    Replies: @Meretricious, @Richard B

    , @IHTG
    @Anonymous

    No, because wokeness also includes trans-mania, which has no immediate racial connotation.

    Replies: @Sleep

    , @Pat Hannagan
    @Anonymous

    By the way, every mention of “woke” should be replaced with “anti-White”, in your head, in writing, in conversation.

    This is 100% spot on.

    Just like "diversity" should too, or "inclusiveness" and "other", basically the person proposing these seemingly harmless words is demanding you be genocided.

    It's about time White people become hyper-sensitive like jews are, become hyper defensive of our kind to the point of in your face obnoxiousness and flat out hypocritical chutzpah/gall, just like the jews do.

    We need to stop playing along with the kays and start elevating our own people.

    I've said it before but I can guarantee Steve doesn't know off the top of his head the numbers of American dead who were tortured to death at the hands of the Japanese in WWII, but Steve will recite like a kindergarten kid doing the alphabet, holohoax numbers and history, you could just flip him a coin and he'll start spewing out those factoids, like an autistic kid with OCD hoping to ward off the evil of a break in the sidewalk.

    It's not woke: it's anti-White.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6p1eF732dg

    We need to stick up for our kind.

    No one else will, if we won't.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    , @Richard B
    @Anonymous

    Great comment! Thanks!

    Yes, Woke, Identity Politics = Antiwhite Hate.

    Has it peaked? The black part of it seems to have peaked. In fact, I'd even go as far as to say that there will be no pause in the black fall from Woke grace. They've been used and used up. They're fast being replaced by the immivasion and will become as irrelevant to the hostile elite as a giant pile of rotary phones.

    But you're right, antiwhite hate will continue. The reason why is because the hostile elite long ago enshrined Scapegoating into their culture and simply can not function without one. Whites are their scapegoat. They have been for a long time and will continue to be.

    As Nietzsche once said in so many words, Anyone who spends a lifetime fighting an enemy, has a real keen interest in making sure their enemy - Stays Alive!

    This is good news!

    Because, since there is no other scapegoat on the horizon, the longer the hostile elite keeps their scapegoat alive, the better the scapegoat's chances of getting out from under long enough to turn the table on the elite. Stranger things have happened in history.

    , @Tiny Duck
    @Anonymous

    People like you will lose:

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dO6ZlUaN9s0

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @MEH 0910

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Woke is anti-white, but the term isn't equivalent in meaning to anti-white. It's a whole worldview/cultural attitude that includes all sorts of wrong ideas (on race, sex/gender, psychology, living a good life) as well as signature fixations, ways of speaking, etc.

    Also, if you value precision in rhetoric, you ought not to call wokeness "genocidal." Advocating for genocide--mass murder of whites--remains beyond the pale.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  • I've been noting for several years the unintentionally hilarious rise of the Black Rest movement. For example, from the new issue of The New Yorker:
  • Does this mean it’s okay to call blacks “nappy”?

    • Replies: @jb
    @Kylie

    Oh nuts, I was hoping nobody else had made that joke but I guess it was too obvious.

    Replies: @Kylie

  • From a message by Maud Mandel, president of Williams College: I have not issued a public statement on behalf of the College in the days following the recent, horrific attacks by Hamas on Israelis and the deaths of Palestinian civilians in the military retaliation. I have heard from members of the community that the college’s...
  • @Jack D
    @HammerJack

    So everyone is on the same moral plane - al Qaeda blowing up the WTC and the US destroying al Qaeda? The Japanese bombing Pearl Harbor and the US bombing Tokyo? The answer is no. If you think that Hamas has the high ground when they shot up a civilian music festival then you have lost your moral compass.

    It's not just a question of who has the wherewithal to respond to whose incursions but the overall morality of their cause and the targets that they choose. Hamas is fighting for the destruction of Israel and they fight for it by trying to kill as many Israeli civilians as they can get their hands on. If they had more "wherewithal" they would just use to to kill more civilians. Israel has plenty of wherewithal and if they wanted to (which they don't) they could kill every last Gazan but that's not their goal at all. They just want to be left alone in their country (and yes it is their country now). No country could be attacked like they just were and not respond. The right of self defense extends even to Jews.

    Replies: @Liza, @Reg Cæsar, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Hypnotoad666, @Pierre de Craon, @Hibernian

    …but the overall morality of their cause and the targets that they choose.

    There isn’t just one system of morality. We all of us will support one side or another in any conflict according to our own feelings and way of thinking, which we then like to describe as our “morality”. The reality is that our moral compasses aren’t all built the same. In China they have burned animals alive in a busy street (cooking method) and nobody stopped to object; they just wandered on.

    Some people support Israel because they are Jews or evangelical Christians or nonjewish neocons or (fill in the blank). Other folks will support Palestine because they are Moslems, Arabs, jewhaters, marxists (maybe), weepy peaceniks or (fill in the blank again). There’s no fixing any of this.

    • Thanks: Kylie
  • @Hhsiii
    @HammerJack

    An attack and retaliatory attack. I don’t need every utterance on the topic to go back through history and include Deir Yassin or bombing the King David Hotel. Or the invasion of Banu Qurayza.

    Replies: @Greta Handel

    Or desecration of the al-Aqsa mosque?

    The point is that, in a public statement about not taking sides, Ms. Mandel has taken some. Isn’t that worth Noticing?

    • Agree: Mike Conrad
    • Thanks: Kylie, Renard
    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @Greta Handel


    “Or desecration of the al-Aqsa mosque?”
     
    It is impossible for Jews to be guilty of “desecrating” mosques. Only a mohammedan would talk such nonsense.

    Replies: @Greta Handel, @Jack D

    , @Hhsiii
    @Greta Handel

    What I notice is obsession over a fairly minor language issue. A microaggression as it were. There’s little denying it was an attack and that there’s a retaliation to that attack, in the immediate sense. I mean instead of attack, she could have called it a mostly peaceful justified incursion. Is the retaliation ( indiscriminate terror bombing) disproportionate? Was the attack provoked by near term events and long term suffering? Rhetorical, no need to answer.

    Desecrate a mosque fka a temple, shootup a rave. And lots of other stuff before and after that. It appears more likely that people who think she is taking sides with her language want her to favor one side.

    Replies: @Greta Handel

  • I have not issued a public statement on behalf of the College in the days following the recent, horrific attacks by Hamas on Israelis and the deaths of Palestinian civilians in the military retaliation.

    Wrong, Ms Mandel, you just did. Twice. First by characterizing one set of attacks as horrific, but not the other; second by characterizing one set as attacks but not the other as “retaliation.”

    Just as the MSM always do here in the ex-USA. It never seems to occur to people that the Palestinians do not have the wherewithal to respond quickly to Israeli incursions, else you may be sure they would. And then it wouldn’t be quite so clear who’s responding to whom.

    • Thanks: Mike Tre, Liza, Renard
    • Troll: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @HammerJack


    'Wrong, Ms Mandel, you just did. Twice. First by characterizing one set of attacks as horrific, but not the other; second by characterizing one set as attacks but not the other as “retaliation.”...'
     
    Yeah -- but really, your reaction only supports her point.
    , @Hhsiii
    @HammerJack

    An attack and retaliatory attack. I don’t need every utterance on the topic to go back through history and include Deir Yassin or bombing the King David Hotel. Or the invasion of Banu Qurayza.

    Replies: @Greta Handel

    , @Greta Handel
    @HammerJack

    That poked my eye, too. As did her


    Russia’s invasion of Ukraine
     
    But very few Notice how subtly language is used to reinforce narratives and define the range of acceptable discourse, even in the context of purported dissidence. (Did this college president give the phrasing of her examples conscious thought?) Spotting it in those anti-interventionist columns of Pat Buchanan was like working the crosswords, propaganda puzzles published twice a week.
    , @Verymuchalive
    @HammerJack

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maud_Mandel

    Maud Mandel (born June 14, 1967) is an American historian and academic administrator. She is the 18th and current President of Williams College, the first woman to hold that role.[1] Mandel was previously a Professor of History and Judaic Studies and Dean of the College at Brown University.

    Mandel received her BA in English from Oberlin College in 1989.[3] In 1993, she received an MA from the University of Michigan, followed in 1998 by a PhD in Modern Jewish History from the same institution.[4]

    This is pre-emptive action on Mandel's part. As the evidence of Israeli atrocities and war crimes* mount up, she will remain completely mum.

    * Yes, war crimes. Dim**** Netanyahu and his minions officially declared war on Hamas on October 8th. Obviously, the aim was to try the alleged perps in Hamas for war crimes against Israeli civilians and presumably execute them. But it also means that Israeli atrocities against Palestinians will also be officially war crimes.

    This makes me believe that Netanyahu and crew were aware of this uprising right from the start. But they misjudged its extent. A mini-uprising was intended, which would be quickly crushed and any remaining Hamas fighters would be tried for war crimes. A PR coup for Netanyahu with the Israeli electorate.

    Except it didn't work that way, and the little matter of Israeli war crimes is now on top of the table. Will the ICC investigate and indict Netanyahu ? Don't hold your breath.

    , @Anonymous
    @HammerJack

    Language police! Besides being true, I thought that was a helpful clue of who might be putting the most pressure on the college to make a statement (that is, not the woke students and professors.)

    , @Hail
    @HammerJack


    characterizing one set as attacks but not the other as “retaliation”
     

    It never seems to occur to people that the Palestinians do not have the wherewithal to respond quickly to Israeli incursions
     
    note --- As of today, October 19th, 2023, the 1%-mark has reportedly been crossed.

    That's 1 in every 100 residents of Gaza has been killed or wounded by Israel's terror-bombings "retaliation" over the past twelve days. (3,785 Gaza dead, plus 13,000 Gaza wounded, over 2,100,000 residents.)

    Comparison:

    War-related deaths incurred by the USA in the 1941-1945 war: 0.3% of resident-population (over 3.5 years, followed soon by a long economic-boom, family-formation bonanza, baby-boom, decades of exorbitant-dollar-privilege, and very-low immigration by non-European Migrants for a long while; but the inheritors of several generations on, we the living, are now treated somewhat like Gaza-Palestinians ourselves).

    Replies: @Hail

    , @Jack D
    @HammerJack

    So everyone is on the same moral plane - al Qaeda blowing up the WTC and the US destroying al Qaeda? The Japanese bombing Pearl Harbor and the US bombing Tokyo? The answer is no. If you think that Hamas has the high ground when they shot up a civilian music festival then you have lost your moral compass.

    It's not just a question of who has the wherewithal to respond to whose incursions but the overall morality of their cause and the targets that they choose. Hamas is fighting for the destruction of Israel and they fight for it by trying to kill as many Israeli civilians as they can get their hands on. If they had more "wherewithal" they would just use to to kill more civilians. Israel has plenty of wherewithal and if they wanted to (which they don't) they could kill every last Gazan but that's not their goal at all. They just want to be left alone in their country (and yes it is their country now). No country could be attacked like they just were and not respond. The right of self defense extends even to Jews.

    Replies: @Liza, @Reg Cæsar, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Hypnotoad666, @Pierre de Craon, @Hibernian

    , @SFG
    @HammerJack

    My attitude is it is not a concern of most Americans, and US troops should not be placed in harm’s way as a result of this. Most Americans are getting sick of this. The country has its own problems.

    I might buy some Israel bonds as a private citizen. Or perhaps an Israeli index fund-you are betting on the ability of Jewish people to make money after all.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  • With raids on civilians and hostage-taking back in the news, I looked up the Comanches' Great Raid of 1840 that destroyed forever the Texas port city of Linnville, about halfway between Houston and Corpus Christi. As with many ethnic conflicts, who were the bad guys and who were the good guys tend to flip-flop depending...
  • @Steve Sailer
    @Cutter

    No.

    Replies: @cool daddy jimbo, @Cutter, @J.Ross, @Clifford Brown, @Paul Rise

    I immediately thought of Blood Meridian and Empire of the Summer Moon if you are interested in Comanche raids. The women taken way by motorcycling raiders reminded me of The Searchers.

    • Agree: Kylie
  • Mostly, I've been depressed by recent horrific events in the Middle East, so haven't had much to say on the topic. But you probably do, so what do you think?
  • @Hunsdon
    @Kylie

    It's Yugoslavia all over again. Bratcheskaya voina. Hatfield-McCoy feud.

    Replies: @Kylie

    “It’s Yugoslavia all over again. Bratcheskaya voina. Hatfield-McCoy feud.”

    Exactly. I am 1/4 Croat and 1/4 Serb. I saw this play out in my own grandparents’s acrimonious marriage of a Croatian Catholic to a Serbian Orthodox.

    • Thanks: Hunsdon
    • Replies: @epebble
    @Kylie

    I saw this play out in my own grandparents’s acrimonious marriage of a Croatian Catholic to a Serbian Orthodox.

    I (and may be others too) would love to read it, if you write more about it. Trials and tribulations of diversity at microscopic scale.

  • I read a diet book by the Three's Company actress in the 1990s, and her scientific theory seemed to work better for me than the standard nutritional advice of the time to eat less fat and more carbohydrates. Nah, Suzanne Somers said, you want to eat more protein and fat (and complex carbs like vegetables)...
  • @Jim Don Bob
    @Kylie

    I like Billy Bob Thornton, but I thought Slingblade was despicable, and predictable. I turned it off halfway through.

    Replies: @Kylie

    “I like Billy Bob Thornton, but I thought Slingblade was despicable, and predictable.”

    I liked it. It was predictable, yes, but I didn’t find it despicable. John Ritter and Robert Duvall both gave memorable performances and I love Daniel Lanois’s score.

    Could be I’m missing something. Wouldn’t be the first time.

  • Mostly, I've been depressed by recent horrific events in the Middle East, so haven't had much to say on the topic. But you probably do, so what do you think?
  • “It’s a blood feud.”

    Thirty years ago, I asked a tenant of mine, an African grad student, what he thought about the Middle East. He smiled and said, “They will never get along. They are too much like brothers.”

    • LOL: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    @Kylie

    It's Yugoslavia all over again. Bratcheskaya voina. Hatfield-McCoy feud.

    Replies: @Kylie

    , @Thoughts
    @Kylie

    These analogies are nonsense

    Israel is stealing land and expanding and has no plans to stop expanding

    If someone across the street stole your house...you would be upset and it has nothing to do with the fact that you have a 'brotherly' relationship

  • I don’t know who is to blame.

    I’m a dude on the ground, trying to pay attention to what’s being presented to us, from a number of sources. I assume everyone is, at the very least, furiously spinning their side of the story. I’m pretty sure all parties involved are willing to lie their asses off.

    It’s a blood feud. Both sides have dehumanized the other for generations. I think at least a part of Al Aqsa Flood was a stunning military victory. I think at least a part of Al Aqsa Flood involved horrible war crimes. I think a part of Operation Iron Swords is justified . . . and yet I think it also involves horrible war crimes. How do you launch air strikes from F16s on the most densely populated area on earth and call it all good?

    Solzhenitsyn pointed out that “If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?”

    I deplore the suffering. Everyone who has been killed, everyone who has lost a loved one, everyone who has been displaced, they were all human beings. Not vermin, not Untermenschen, not subhumans, not cockroaches.

    I don’t hate Jews, nor do I hate Muslims. In the alternative, if you want to make it more racial, I don’t hate Jews, nor do I hate Arabs. Also? I don’t excuse Jews, nor do I excuse Muslims.

    Maybe Fallout was right?

    War never changes.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @Hunsdon

    Hunsdon wrote:


    I don’t know who is to blame.
     
    East European Jewish socialists stole the literal homes (not just in a metaphorical sense) of the indigenous inhabitants of Palestine. They justified it by appealing to Iron Age myths ("God gave this land to me") that few of them actually believed. The West encouraged them, partly as a way of assuaging Western guilt for what was done to European Jews and partly to avoid letting those Jews in to Western countries.

    All of that was wrong -- both in principle and from a purely pragmatic viewpoint: it is not turning out well. This is not complicated.

    And now the Zionists are there.

    What should be done?

    The Zionists should leave.

    But of course they won't.

    At the very least, the Zionists should accept that non-Jews in Israel and in the Occupied Territories should be given equal rights with Jews -- from the Right of Return onward.

    And, someday, that may actually happen.

    But only after a lot of innocent people die.

    Replies: @epebble, @Hunsdon, @Prester John

  • @Kylie
    @Greta Handel

    "At this point, is that [Biden further embarrassing the United States] possible?

    Spell out an illustrative example, please."

    Easy peasy.

    1) Biden asking Doctor Jill in public to change his poopy diaper.

    2) Biden sniffing an Israeli woman's hair and announcing "It doesn't smell Jewish".

    3) Biden comparing the recent events in the Middle East to the time his kitchen in Delaware caught on fire.

    4) Biden claiming his son Beau died defending the Jews.


    Okay, nothing like No. 1 has happened--yet. But the other three are just variations on Biden embarrassments that have actually already occurred.

    Replies: @ChrisZ

    Classic stuff, Kylie.

    • Agree: kaganovitch
    • Thanks: Kylie
  • The FBI has finally released its Uniform Crime Reporting summary of local police department reports for 2022. Almost exactly as I estimated way back in January, homicides in 2022 were down 6% since their peak in 2021, but still far above the pre-George Floyd year of 2019. For, literally, decades the FBI has been trying...
  • This doesn’t surprise me.

    What surprises me is that the FBI, a corrupt, political organization that typically sets people up, would “COP” to this at all.

    • Agree: R.G. Camara, Kylie, ic1000
    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Even the KGB and Stasi caught rapists and murderers.

    Replies: @Hannah Katz, @J.Ross

    , @Renard
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Well, since race is now known to be a thing which doesn't actually exist, can murder be that far behind? Shouldn't be too hard to wrestle these stats into submission.

    Meanwhile, keep in mind 1) it's not blacks, it's black males between 14 and 40 so more like '4/58' and 2) the closure rate is dramatically lower now, especially for black crime, so it's actually more like 4/78.

    , @Ebony Obelisk
    @Buzz Mohawk

    This is skewed data. It is a known fact that law enforcement under persecuted white murderers. Read Killers of the Flower Moon.

    Replies: @Forgot my Name

  • I read a diet book by the Three's Company actress in the 1990s, and her scientific theory seemed to work better for me than the standard nutritional advice of the time to eat less fat and more carbohydrates. Nah, Suzanne Somers said, you want to eat more protein and fat (and complex carbs like vegetables)...
  • @Trinity
    @Twinkie

    Kim Basinger in her prime was better looking and sexier IMO.

    For me, I found a 40 something Angie Dickinson sexy as hell.

    Hmm, Best looking were Judy and Audrey Landers back in the day.

    Replies: @Old Virginia, @Kylie

    “Kim Basinger in her prime was better looking and sexier [than Michelle Pfeiffer] IMO.”

    Can’t say I agree but Kim is definitely one of the great screen beauties with an irresistible vulnerability.

    You might think it’s weird my commenting on these but my dad, who introduced me to many classic movies, loved to discuss the beauty of various actresses (e.g., Olivia de Havilland’s cheekbones, Joan Fontaine’s lips). Not just Hollywood, either. We both thought Win Min Than was a great beauty.

  • @Twinkie
    @Kylie


    I don’t think any woman was ever more beautiful than Michelle Pfeiffer in Batman Returns and The Age of Innocence.
     
    She was likewise quite beautiful in The Fabulous Baker Boys, Ladyhawke, and Frankie and Johnny. Perhaps even Dangerous Liaisons. She lights up the screen in pretty much any film.

    And she can act too. Some critic once referred to her as a character actress trapped in the face and body of a bombshell. Or something to that effect.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c5/6d/af/c56daf3851ba83c3516202f451ed1aa7.png

    You can smear dish dirt on that lady's face and dress her as a broken-down diner waitress and she still lights up the screen.

    Replies: @MGB, @Kylie

    That’s how you know she’s a real beauty. The less she’s made up, the prettier she is. All the makeup, like in Scarface, actually detracts from her looks.

    • Agree: Kylie
  • Mostly, I've been depressed by recent horrific events in the Middle East, so haven't had much to say on the topic. But you probably do, so what do you think?
  • It’s none of our damned business. Or rather, it ought not to be.

    • Thanks: Kylie
  • From the Hollywood Reporter: Jeanell English Breaks Silence on What Led to Her Exit From Film Academy EVP of Impact and Inclusion “I became the recipient of a steady flux of micro- and macro-aggressions,” English says in an L.A. Times column after leading the organization’s initiatives to address underrepresentation across the industry since July 2022....
  • @J.Ross
    @Kylie

    If he changes the post title once comments are posted he creates a distinct post, it's like a time travel paradox.

    Replies: @Kylie

    “If he changes the post title once comments are posted he creates a distinct post, it’s like a time travel paradox.”

    But how is it a time travel paradox? Wouldn’t it just be a second, different (and more accurate) post?

    Or are you trying to confuse me? Not hard to do. I may have read “All Your Zombies” but I still haven’t mastered the block quote.

  • Mostly, I've been depressed by recent horrific events in the Middle East, so haven't had much to say on the topic. But you probably do, so what do you think?
  • @Greta Handel
    @Ken52

    At this point, is that possible?

    Spell out an illustrative example, please.

    Replies: @Kylie

    “At this point, is that [Biden further embarrassing the United States] possible?

    Spell out an illustrative example, please.”

    Easy peasy.

    1) Biden asking Doctor Jill in public to change his poopy diaper.

    2) Biden sniffing an Israeli woman’s hair and announcing “It doesn’t smell Jewish”.

    3) Biden comparing the recent events in the Middle East to the time his kitchen in Delaware caught on fire.

    4) Biden claiming his son Beau died defending the Jews.

    Okay, nothing like No. 1 has happened–yet. But the other three are just variations on Biden embarrassments that have actually already occurred.

    • LOL: Corn
    • Replies: @ChrisZ
    @Kylie

    Classic stuff, Kylie.

  • I read a diet book by the Three's Company actress in the 1990s, and her scientific theory seemed to work better for me than the standard nutritional advice of the time to eat less fat and more carbohydrates. Nah, Suzanne Somers said, you want to eat more protein and fat (and complex carbs like vegetables)...
  • @Twinkie
    @Kylie


    I don’t think any woman was ever more beautiful than Michelle Pfeiffer in Batman Returns and The Age of Innocence.
     
    She was likewise quite beautiful in The Fabulous Baker Boys, Ladyhawke, and Frankie and Johnny. Perhaps even Dangerous Liaisons. She lights up the screen in pretty much any film.

    And she can act too. Some critic once referred to her as a character actress trapped in the face and body of a bombshell. Or something to that effect.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c5/6d/af/c56daf3851ba83c3516202f451ed1aa7.png

    You can smear dish dirt on that lady's face and dress her as a broken-down diner waitress and she still lights up the screen.

    Replies: @MGB, @Kylie

    Totally agree.

    “And she can act too.”

    Yes, she has the rare gift of being able to convey thought as well as emotion. She is totally in the moment onscreen and that, combined with her matchless beauty, makes her unforgettable.

    I love her in this scene. We see and feel everything Ellen is feeling. Meanwhile poor Daniel Day-Lewis is so mannered and Methody. I get the feeling he’s just reeling off the conversational lines waiting for his chance to “emote”. Whereas she is feeling her way through this thicket of emotions, you can see it in her eyes, hear it in her voice. It’s such a poignant performance.

  • @Kylie
    @Twinkie

    I don't think any woman was ever more beautiful than Michelle Pfeiffer in Batman Returns and The Age of Innocence.

    https://youtu.be/GuidzJ0iyVs?si=ORJ9soX_NPA2Z3kn

    Replies: @Twinkie

    I don’t think any woman was ever more beautiful than Michelle Pfeiffer in Batman Returns and The Age of Innocence.

    She was likewise quite beautiful in The Fabulous Baker Boys, Ladyhawke, and Frankie and Johnny. Perhaps even Dangerous Liaisons. She lights up the screen in pretty much any film.

    And she can act too. Some critic once referred to her as a character actress trapped in the face and body of a bombshell. Or something to that effect.

    You can smear dish dirt on that lady’s face and dress her as a broken-down diner waitress and she still lights up the screen.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @MGB
    @Twinkie

    That’s how you know she’s a real beauty. The less she’s made up, the prettier she is. All the makeup, like in Scarface, actually detracts from her looks.

    , @Kylie
    @Twinkie

    Totally agree.

    "And she can act too."

    Yes, she has the rare gift of being able to convey thought as well as emotion. She is totally in the moment onscreen and that, combined with her matchless beauty, makes her unforgettable.

    I love her in this scene. We see and feel everything Ellen is feeling. Meanwhile poor Daniel Day-Lewis is so mannered and Methody. I get the feeling he's just reeling off the conversational lines waiting for his chance to "emote". Whereas she is feeling her way through this thicket of emotions, you can see it in her eyes, hear it in her voice. It's such a poignant performance.

    https://youtu.be/5vqnFqc4XEQ?si=Oc7hkDt-Rfd0qEaP

  • @Twinkie
    @Old Prude


    Now, please, back to the blonde and her thighmaster…
     
    Hey, I don't need to come to Unz to look at a blonde (I just look at my wife for that). I come here for the HBD talk!

    I never thought Somers was all that attractive and she did epitomize that "dumb blonde" look. For my money, the most attractive blonde actress ever was this lady:

    https://i.pinimg.com/564x/01/89/09/0189092fa368f49271e9cda052102f99.jpg

    Replies: @Kylie, @Trinity, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    I don’t think any woman was ever more beautiful than Michelle Pfeiffer in Batman Returns and The Age of Innocence.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Kylie


    I don’t think any woman was ever more beautiful than Michelle Pfeiffer in Batman Returns and The Age of Innocence.
     
    She was likewise quite beautiful in The Fabulous Baker Boys, Ladyhawke, and Frankie and Johnny. Perhaps even Dangerous Liaisons. She lights up the screen in pretty much any film.

    And she can act too. Some critic once referred to her as a character actress trapped in the face and body of a bombshell. Or something to that effect.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c5/6d/af/c56daf3851ba83c3516202f451ed1aa7.png

    You can smear dish dirt on that lady's face and dress her as a broken-down diner waitress and she still lights up the screen.

    Replies: @MGB, @Kylie

  • @Old Prude
    @Twinkie

    We are talking about Suzanne here (and thinking about how good she looked in a sweater) and you immediately dump this crap on the thread.

    Thanks for nothing.

    Now, please, back to the blonde and her thighmaster…

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Now, please, back to the blonde and her thighmaster…

    Hey, I don’t need to come to Unz to look at a blonde (I just look at my wife for that). I come here for the HBD talk!

    I never thought Somers was all that attractive and she did epitomize that “dumb blonde” look. For my money, the most attractive blonde actress ever was this lady:

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Twinkie

    I don't think any woman was ever more beautiful than Michelle Pfeiffer in Batman Returns and The Age of Innocence.

    https://youtu.be/GuidzJ0iyVs?si=ORJ9soX_NPA2Z3kn

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Trinity
    @Twinkie

    Kim Basinger in her prime was better looking and sexier IMO.

    For me, I found a 40 something Angie Dickinson sexy as hell.

    Hmm, Best looking were Judy and Audrey Landers back in the day.

    Replies: @Old Virginia, @Kylie

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Twinkie

    I no longer keep a scorecard of who did what, at least not for mainstream purposes, but whichever gal was the lead in "White Oleander" she gets my vote OK.

    Otherwise put me down with like Lucinda Childs and Peyton Smith and so forth.

  • @Known Fact
    I only saw John Ritter on TV once -- Before becoming well known he played a total douchebag on Hawaii 5-0 and was very convincing

    Replies: @Kylie

    “I only saw John Ritter on TV once — Before becoming well known he played a total douchebag on Hawaii 5-0 and was very convincing.”

    Ritter gave a wonderful performance in Slingblade as a gay guy doing his best to protect the two people he considers his family. He was very convincing.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Kylie

    I like Billy Bob Thornton, but I thought Slingblade was despicable, and predictable. I turned it off halfway through.

    Replies: @Kylie

  • @Old Prude
    @Twinkie

    It looks like you weren’t the only one with your hobby-horse ready at the starting gate. At least your OT wasn’t about the Jews, so thanks for that, I guess.

    Replies: @bomag, @Jack Armstrong

    Is it a hobby horse when it is plastered in our face by every media; gov’t; and business group?

    • Agree: Kylie
  • From the Hollywood Reporter: Jeanell English Breaks Silence on What Led to Her Exit From Film Academy EVP of Impact and Inclusion “I became the recipient of a steady flux of micro- and macro-aggressions,” English says in an L.A. Times column after leading the organization’s initiatives to address underrepresentation across the industry since July 2022....
  • Steve, I think you need to remove the “out” from this post title.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Kylie

    If he changes the post title once comments are posted he creates a distinct post, it's like a time travel paradox.

    Replies: @Kylie

  • I read a diet book by the Three's Company actress in the 1990s, and her scientific theory seemed to work better for me than the standard nutritional advice of the time to eat less fat and more carbohydrates. Nah, Suzanne Somers said, you want to eat more protein and fat (and complex carbs like vegetables)...
  • @Dream
    The power of liberalism

    https://twitter.com/MairavZ/status/1713802875862663286?t=UNKwp6HLibMqtRrD3M0niw&s=19

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Harry Baldwin, @Nachum

    Sounds like Amy Biehl Syndrome.

    Amy Elizabeth Biehl (April 26, 1967 – August 25, 1993) was an American graduate of Stanford University and an anti-Apartheid activist in South Africa who was murdered by Cape Town residents while a black mob shouted anti-white slurs.

    As she drove three friends home to the township of Gugulethu, outside Cape Town, on August 25, 1993, a mob pulled her from the car and stabbed and stoned her to death. Four men were convicted of killing her. In 1998, all were pardoned by South Africa’s Truth and Reconciliation Commission, when they stated that their actions had been politically motivated.

    Biehl’s family supported the release of the men.  Her father shook their hands and stated, “The most important vehicle of reconciliation is open and honest dialogue… we are here to reconcile a human life [that] was taken without an opportunity for dialogue. When we are finished with this process we must move forward with linked arms.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Biehl

    Black South Africans were so impressed by this noble act that they ceased all racial attacks on whites. Well, maybe not, but it would have been really something if that had been the case.

    • LOL: Kylie
    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Harry Baldwin

    As a white woman, I would not set foot in present day South Africa.

    Killing someone for “political” reasons is just fine there.

    Replies: @Richard B

  • If you have a problem with Cheerios, never, ever eat a Wheat Thin. Or a Sun Chip. You can go through a whole box. Or bag.

    • Agree: bomag, Kylie, Old Prude
    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    @Ben tillman

    https://www.theonion.com/scientists-discover-gene-responsible-for-eating-whole-g-1819565291

    , @J.Ross
    @Ben tillman

    I remember when Wheat Thins and Triscuits came out at about the same time, both as super-healthy alternatives to, say, Bugles or Doodles or Cool Ranch Doritos. Going by taste and texture I much preferred Wheat Thins. Later when I understood a little about nutrition I was shocked by the sugar content in a nominally healthy product (or, for that matter, that a Pop Tart has far more calories than any chocolate bar). Happily Triscuit is actually somewhat healthy and now has numerous flavors, but I still now rely on Dare Breton Everything crackers (with Alouette and cucumber). This is the shadow of Howard Moskowitz. He's the guy who figured out how to add maximum sugar to a nominal non-dessert without the desserter picking up on it. Read about him in Michael Moss's Salt, Sugar, and Fat.

    Replies: @Mr. Deplorable

    , @Anonymous
    @Ben tillman


    If you have a problem with Cheerios, never, ever eat a Wheat Thin. Or a Sun Chip. You can go through a whole box. Or bag.
     
    What do you mean?
    , @possumman
    @Ben tillman

    Or Grooves--my wife is addicted to them

    , @Joe Stalin
    @Ben tillman


    You can go through a whole box. Or bag.
     
    As Amy Jacobson (WIND-AM) said: "You're supposed to put some in a separate container, then eat that!"

    I find a free container perfect for that are the one's Cool Whip come in, with their press seal tops.

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Ben tillman

    Not to mention Count Chocula.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    , @Thomm
    @Ben tillman


    If you have a problem with Cheerios, never, ever eat a Wheat Thin. Or a Sun Chip. You can go through a whole box. Or bag.
     
    Actually, the fastest, surest path to poor health via diet is probably :

    Doritos
    Donuts (especially with any glaze)
    Any HFCS soft drink

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  • @Achmed E. Newman
    @Kylie

    LOL! That'd have been excellent, Kylie. It's too bad Jack D. does not work pro-Bono. That is, unless he's got Bono for a client.

    A man who defends himself pro-Bono has a boner for a client.

    - One of the Founding Fathers.

    Replies: @Kylie

    Lol!

    “Always I am amazed at how the mind of one exposed to constant insult and racist abuse for over half a century can nevertheless produce research to such a high standard. While I am reading this impressive tome, I am saying to myself, Why was it not considered good enough to be bound in rich Corinthian leather? Surely it has sufficient merit. Did the publisher not recognize the worthiness of the author and instead dismiss him as some babu fit only to work as a shopkeeper??”

    • LOL: Buzz Mohawk
  • @possumman
    Was he a Hindu --or a Hindon't?

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    He came so close to being untouchable, one little letter change and he’d have been a Dindu, and home free.

    • LOL: Kylie
  • Rolling Stone continues to publicly do penance for its original sin of having been created in 1967 to celebrate white guys playing rock music on electric guitars really loud. Now, its new list of the 250 Greatest Guitarists, featuring this illustration. Two white men make the collage. The featured guitarist is Yvette Young, a Chinese-American...
  • @Jim Don Bob
    @Kylie

    Thanks, Kylie. I'd never seen that video. He is a heck of a guitar player. I'd go see him but he does not tour much and then only around California. Here's one of my favorites. Also check out his acoustic Stairway to Heaven.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUiYamjM4GU

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Kylie

    Justin Johnson’s acoustic Stairway to Heaven. I admire a guy who still wears bell bottoms.

    • Thanks: Kylie
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  • @Buzz Mohawk
    Forty years ago in college, I knew an Indian Hindu who was majoring in molecular biology. Sometimes he would hang out in the campus office where I worked. He went on to found a biotechnology company in Boston that made him millions of dollars. He sits on the boards of several fine civic organizations there. Racist America been berry berry good to him.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @HammerJack

    The sad part is that Hindu race baiting in the New World has only gotten worse since 86 year old MRINAL DEWANJEE began his grift. Much worse. Conclusion: All you Anglo types should be properly ashamed of yourselves.

    There may possibly be a step missing in that syllogism.

    • LOL: Kylie
  • @Buzz Mohawk
    @Jack D

    I bet his book isn't leather bound.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Adam Smith, @Reg Cæsar, @Jack D

    “I bet his book isn’t leather bound.”

    Lol! You noticed! 😉

  • @Jack D
    Living well is the best revenge. Dr. Urinal has written a book and thanks to all the publicity he got from publishing this letter sales have shot way up.

    Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #9,632,666 in Books

    Sadly there are no reviews.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Buzz Mohawk

    “Dr. Urinal has written a book and thanks to all the publicity he got from publishing this letter sales have shot way up.

    Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #9,632,666 in Books

    Sadly there are no reviews.”

    Lol! Oh, please submit one! Sign it “Your devoted son”.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Kylie

    LOL! That'd have been excellent, Kylie. It's too bad Jack D. does not work pro-Bono. That is, unless he's got Bono for a client.

    A man who defends himself pro-Bono has a boner for a client.

    - One of the Founding Fathers.

    Replies: @Kylie

  • You hear optimists saying all the time that Woke is past its peak. But it sure looks like the Great Awokening still has a ton of institutional momentum as big, slow-moving organizations continue to implement ridiculous policies emanating from the 2020-21 "racial reckoning." For example, from the Willamette Week: The Portland Art Museum Ditches Its...
  • @Steve Sailer
    @Ennui

    Good one.

    One cause of the current popularity of Jewish-centric accounts of U.S. history, both pro-Semitic and anti-Semitic, is because Jews remain fascinated with their history and write about it, while Protestant Americans have gotten awfully bored with theirs. For example, I have a 1971 Encyclopedia Brittanica. It's absolutely stuffed with articles about American Protestant clergymen of the 17th to 20th Centuries, 99% of whom I've never heard of. Evidently, they were considered a big deal in the past. But almost nobody is interested in them today. (Maybe, the late Cormac McCarthy and the Coen Brothers are.)

    The reality of American history is that it was mostly some white Protestants doing X and other white Protestants doing Y, but we've largely lost interest in the dramatis personae.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Dmon, @Drywall Hammer, @Ennui, @Mike Tre

    The decay in US Protestant faith and theology is crucial to understanding a range of historical moves in the country’s history.

    When the Puritans lost sight of God, their belief structure became a hollowed-out shell, but it retained one crucial feature: the world (and its unfortunates) need to be saved.

    The original Puritans believed that they were chosen by God as His elect, but that it was up to God to transform the world. They might be His tools, but ultimately it was up to Him.

    But by the 19th century (I’m compressing horribly here in the interests of space and simplicity) many of the succeeding generations of leading American Protestants had lost their faith in God; they were now Unitarians, or increasingly worldly Congregationalists or Presbyterians, or whatever. At this point, no matter what they thought about God, they still fervently believed the world needed transforming, and they now believed it was up to them to carry this out. In other words, they became substitute saviors — as the enlightened (but worldly) elect, they could save the world themselves, armed with their perspicacity and wisdom and scientific worldviews and just general superior goodness.

    From this heresy have sprung forth numerous ‘world saving’ myths — e.g. from the ‘Social Gospel’ of the late 19th century, to the Wilsonian League of Nations, to neocons ‘spreading democracy’, to today’s Woke ‘saviors’ of the racially and culturally oppressed. It’s all one people assuming they are sufficiently good and powerful to take responsibility for saving other, lesser people from their own fates.

    • Thanks: kaganovitch, Kylie
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    William Bradford set us on the way to "marriage equality" in the spring of 1621 by announcing at Plymouth's first wedding that he was acting only in his capacity as a magistrate, not as a clergyman, although he was invested both types of authority. In other words, he took marriage from the church and handed it over to the state. Of course, he was just following Calvin, who compared marriage to agriculture, and farming isn't a sacrament, is it?

    Progressive Protestants think rainbow "welcoming" flags and same-sex nuptials are the fulfillment of the Reformation. Hidebound Papists wholeheartedly agree!


    (Bradford is an ancestor of Hugh Hefner in more ways than one.)

    , @Dmon
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    1962 was a major milestone.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVf6MXZPSPU&ab_channel=newtownmadras

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    , @Hail
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Many would say there are always alternating relatively-liberal and relatively-conservative movements ongoing in any "religion," however defined. If all it takes is a sustained period of relatively-liberal religion, and if it be true that we Europeans (or specifically Northwest-Europeans) are particularly vulnerable, we should wonder why aggressive-and-metastatic Wokeness did not emerge a lot earlier.

    The biggest single difference, or at least a very-large difference, many would say, is arrival of the emancipated members of a non-European ethnic-group and religion, from Eastern Europe, primarily between the mid-1880s and mid-1910s but also topped-off several times thereafter, and now existing partly as a para-national elite. This group arrived with an aggrieved mentality, with (crucially) a separate intellectual tradition, and armed with elite-diasporic ethics, whereas we White-Protestants were simply who we've always been.

    Many of the leading Protestants of the late-19th and early 20th century were strongly against that group. The curious person on this point should consult some of the works of Henry Adams, a bonafide member of the elite. He was of age to see the pre- and post-periods of the arrival of the group to which I allude. He and others came to envision that that group would hijack the country. Meanwhile, these same Protestant-elite observers viewed various protean, proto-leftist movements among their own kind with some disdain, sometimes whimsical disdain, and usually a lot less alarm.

    I share your views on the Unitarian movement of the 19th century and what it became by the mid-20th century and since, but there were also right-wing unitarians (and right-wing Quakers) and it's far from clear that they would have forced Wokeness onto White-America without many other changes. I would also note that the Unitarian-Universalist Church of our time is actually heavily composed of people born into that other, above-alluded-to religion.

    , @Ben tillman
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    And all of this “save-the-world” stuff came from the influence of the Jews of the Netherlands.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    , @Prester John
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    To understand 2023 America one has to understand 1630 Colonial America.

    Scratch any "Progressive" and you'll find a Calvinist-saturated Puritan screaming to get out.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    , @Ennui
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    It’s all one people assuming they are sufficiently good and powerful to take responsibility for saving other, lesser people from their own fates.

    Bingo!

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  • So Doctor Babu is smart enough to publish all these papers on arcane subjects but not smart enough to take a hint and move back to India.

    • LOL: Muggles
  • So it’s like Penthouse Letters, but for scientists. I’ll bet his racist colleagues called him “Urinal” behind his back.

    • Replies: @Legba
    @Elmer T. Jones

    Maybe because if they said it to his face, he'd kick their asses. Growing up with a name like that, he's probably pretty handy in a scrap

  • Rolling Stone continues to publicly do penance for its original sin of having been created in 1967 to celebrate white guys playing rock music on electric guitars really loud. Now, its new list of the 250 Greatest Guitarists, featuring this illustration. Two white men make the collage. The featured guitarist is Yvette Young, a Chinese-American...
  • @Jim Don Bob
    @Kylie

    Thanks, Kylie. I'd never seen that video. He is a heck of a guitar player. I'd go see him but he does not tour much and then only around California. Here's one of my favorites. Also check out his acoustic Stairway to Heaven.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUiYamjM4GU

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Kylie

    Thank you! I hadn’t seen this video. I love this guy. It’s so generous of him to post hour long videos of his music. Sometimes I’ll listen to one or just put single song on an infinite loop and let my house fill up with his music.

  • You hear optimists saying all the time that Woke is past its peak. But it sure looks like the Great Awokening still has a ton of institutional momentum as big, slow-moving organizations continue to implement ridiculous policies emanating from the 2020-21 "racial reckoning." For example, from the Willamette Week: The Portland Art Museum Ditches Its...
  • @Kylie
    From the article:

    “'The message is really clear that the services of a group of older, retired educators are no longer needed,' Dacklin says."

    Lol! I checked out her Facebook page, which was predictably woke, with plenty of Negro worship. She doesn't even get that she helped cause her own dismissal, that she's just a useful idiot--except she's no longer useful.

    Her colleague is even stupider.

    "Bushnell, a retired teacher with a degree in art history, served on the committee that consulted on the restructuring and the email.

    'I knew it would cause some stress for people, but I think it’s important that everyone feel welcome when they walk in the doors of the museum,' says Bushnell, 66. 'Even good change is difficult.'”

    Except that not everyone feels welcome at the museum. It's just a different group that's been made to feel unwelcome. Stupid sow doesn't see that. Of course she doesn't. She's an educator!

    And a Nice White Lady.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @kaganovitch, @res, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Muggles, @Jack P

    I was feeling bad for the ladies but less so now. The vast majority probably voted for this. That’s not to say Republicans are much better. Where are the House hearings on the BLM and Antifa riots? Where is the accountability?

    • Agree: Kylie
  • “For you and Kylie, Oregon is a big State, as you two know, and there are lots of beautiful areas.”

    Yep, I know. I’ve traveled around it a bit. I was always told outstate Oregon is conservative but I’m not so sure. Toledo, my husband’s hometown, has a population of only 3000+, is overwhelmingly white, and his family is woke as hell (can’t blame academia, neither parent attended college).

    I’m sure areas of Oregon are conservative but I don’t think it’s like Missouri which has three vile islands of blue (STL, KCMO and Columbia) in a sea of red.

    As for the natural beauty, I just can’t enjoy nice scenery amidst the wokery. It seems so misplaced, somehow.

  • Rolling Stone continues to publicly do penance for its original sin of having been created in 1967 to celebrate white guys playing rock music on electric guitars really loud. Now, its new list of the 250 Greatest Guitarists, featuring this illustration. Two white men make the collage. The featured guitarist is Yvette Young, a Chinese-American...
  • Anonymous[256] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kylie
    @Anonymous

    "In many ways, the guitar is quite limited."

    Like the harpsichord.

    "As a solo instrument, the percussive nature of guitar means that envelopes of notes can’t be shaped with anything like the refinement of bowed strings, winds, or the voice, and the frets impose an artificial intonation good guitarists have to circumvent with string bends or the use of a slide."

    Agreed. But pop music isn't really noted for its refinement, irrespective of the limitations of the guitar.

    "But, I can’t help but feel its centrality to pop music c.1950-2000 made that music duller than it would have been otherwise."

    No, in the sense you apparently mean, given the examples you've used, pop music was always going to be "dull". I really think you're conflating classical music with pop music here. Pop music is just that, popular music, the music of the people. It's for the many, not the few.

    Here's a personal favorite. Hope you enjoy it.

    https://youtu.be/3f7iIqB97Kc?si=pFYNBJH3TY8Wiq1L

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Anonymous

    Believe it or not, pop and folk music existed long before the electric guitar became dominant, and many of these older styles persist in some form today. At their best, they are sublimely, vitally melodic in a way guitar rock can never be.

    https://youtu.be/GrXsmfmqcFA?feature=shared

    • LOL: Kylie
  • You hear optimists saying all the time that Woke is past its peak. But it sure looks like the Great Awokening still has a ton of institutional momentum as big, slow-moving organizations continue to implement ridiculous policies emanating from the 2020-21 "racial reckoning." For example, from the Willamette Week: The Portland Art Museum Ditches Its...
  • @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Kylie

    It's the old white lady version of burn the coal, pay the toll.

    Replies: @Kylie

    “It’s the old white lady version of burn the coal, pay the toll.”

    Agreed. And I have as little sympathy for them as I do for their younger sisters, even those who pay a much higher toll (e.g., Jessica Chambers).

  • @Wilkey
    Forget it, Jake, it’s Portland.

    About ten years ago, at a previous employer, I had to deal with some employee issues at one of our offices in Portland. Worst, most entitled people I have ever dealt with in my life. Prior to that experience the Portland area was on a shortlist of places my wife and I thought about moving to. It hasn’t been on it since. Oregon is beautiful. But if we move there it will be somewhere far from Portland.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Achmed E. Newman

    “Prior to that experience the Portland area was on a shortlist of places my wife and I thought about moving to. It hasn’t been on it since. Oregon is beautiful.”

    My late husband took me to Oregon, his home state, in 2003, back when I was clueless politically. (I just assumed after 9/11, Americans would all pull together and Bush would close the borders.) Though I love well-ordered public spaces, I hated Portland on sight. Something about its welcoming greenness was so smug, so off-putting. I could just see the liberals laying it out to advertise their social/cultural superiority. For the first time ever, I missed St. Louis’s urban decay and general shabbiness. Even Cleveland has got to be better than this, I thought.

    Of course, by the time we returned in 2015, my loathing was full-blown. I literally counted the hours I had to spend in the benighted state. My husband wanted to move back there. I told him I’d miss him.

    You’re right, Oregon is beautiful. What a waste of nice scenery.

    • Thanks: Bill Jones
  • Rolling Stone continues to publicly do penance for its original sin of having been created in 1967 to celebrate white guys playing rock music on electric guitars really loud. Now, its new list of the 250 Greatest Guitarists, featuring this illustration. Two white men make the collage. The featured guitarist is Yvette Young, a Chinese-American...
  • @Kylie
    @tyrone

    Sorry! That Troll was supposed to be a Lol. But I was laughing so hard I hit the wrong button. 😂

    Replies: @tyrone

    Troll ,lol, it’s all good.

    • Thanks: Kylie
  • You hear optimists saying all the time that Woke is past its peak. But it sure looks like the Great Awokening still has a ton of institutional momentum as big, slow-moving organizations continue to implement ridiculous policies emanating from the 2020-21 "racial reckoning." For example, from the Willamette Week: The Portland Art Museum Ditches Its...
  • @Kylie
    From the article:

    “'The message is really clear that the services of a group of older, retired educators are no longer needed,' Dacklin says."

    Lol! I checked out her Facebook page, which was predictably woke, with plenty of Negro worship. She doesn't even get that she helped cause her own dismissal, that she's just a useful idiot--except she's no longer useful.

    Her colleague is even stupider.

    "Bushnell, a retired teacher with a degree in art history, served on the committee that consulted on the restructuring and the email.

    'I knew it would cause some stress for people, but I think it’s important that everyone feel welcome when they walk in the doors of the museum,' says Bushnell, 66. 'Even good change is difficult.'”

    Except that not everyone feels welcome at the museum. It's just a different group that's been made to feel unwelcome. Stupid sow doesn't see that. Of course she doesn't. She's an educator!

    And a Nice White Lady.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @kaganovitch, @res, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Muggles, @Jack P

    I suppose this museum in Portland and others are just swimming in cash.

    You fire your free volunteers who have done a professional job and you pay (allegedly) college students as short time temps to do an much inferior job.

    Say, $20/hr versus free.

    Woke in action.

    So museum funds formerly used for exhibits and upkeep will subsidize slack jawed community college students “of color” far above their local numbers or interest in the museum. Some will “work” while high on pot and others conspire to steal what they can. Gay museum administrators will be happy to recruit new young male eye candy and new adventures in the museum furnace room.

    The next museum fundraising pitch will have photos of students (acceptably non White, lots of fat lesbians) in uniforms touting their new improved non docent workforce.

    “I think da gift shop is on the first floor. I’m on my break now..”

    • Agree: Kylie, bomag
  • Demographic momentum.

    • Agree: Kylie
  • @Mr. Anon

    Is Woke Really Past Its Peak?
     
    No, and I don't think it will be until there is concerted, visible, undeniable political reaction.

    Reactionary reaction. I mean like Pinochet or Franco.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Kylie, @Hibernian

    “Reactionary reaction. I mean like Pinochet or Franco.”

    Delenda est.

  • I posted this once before but it is relevant again because of the essay so here goes. Yale’s Denise Ho wrote a book a few years ago called Curating Revolution. The book documents how museum exhibits, and informal exhibits elsewhere, were important in propagating Mao’s ideas. The concept is that many or most people, and children especially, have difficulty grasping ways of thinking in the abstract, but are often amenable to being convinced by tangible exhibits. In fact, a single artifact was sometimes deemed to constitute “ironclad evidence” there is a Chinese word for that but I can’t remember what it is. Anyway this assault on museums is straight out of the cultural revolution.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Thanks: Kylie, Red Pill Angel
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @SafeNow

    I've experienced this firsthand in meeting non-college-educated Europeans who formed their ideas about 20th century history by being impressed at museum exhibits.

  • My anthology, Noticing, is coming out from Passage Press. It's a strong selection of my best stuff from over the decades. I want to thank everybody who has offered suggestions over the years for what essays should be included. Now available for order for delivery before Christmas is the very expensive (and very nice) hardback,...
  • Congratulations. It is beautiful.

  • You hear optimists saying all the time that Woke is past its peak. But it sure looks like the Great Awokening still has a ton of institutional momentum as big, slow-moving organizations continue to implement ridiculous policies emanating from the 2020-21 "racial reckoning." For example, from the Willamette Week: The Portland Art Museum Ditches Its...
  • @HammerJack
    @Kylie


    It’s just a different group that’s been made to feel unwelcome.
     
    Yes, except that the sacred ones were never made to feel unwelcome in the first place. It's an art museum and it's in Portland, Oregon. It was already bending over backwards to accommodate the identity politics of the Coalition.

    The difference now is that they're taking the obvious next step, as is so much of our society, and explicitly jettisoning the icky white people. The ones without whom the museum wouldn't even exist. The ones without whom the society wouldn't even exist.

    Replies: @Kylie

    “… the sacred ones were never made to feel unwelcome in the first place.”

    Of course not. But tiny miscommunications (“microaggressions”) loom large to the sacred ones.

    From the article: “…embarrassing incident in March when a museum staffer (not a docent) asked a young mother to remove her baby from its traditional basket carrier—while she toured an exhibit showcasing a Native American artist. The museum apologized, further trained its staff in cultural sensitivity, and changed its backpack policy.”

    You are quite right that they’re “explicitly jettisoning the icky white people”. But it’s precisely those icky white people like the docents quoted who made that possible. I feel zero sympathy for them.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  • Have they no docency? (Please don’t clap.)

  • From the article:

    “’The message is really clear that the services of a group of older, retired educators are no longer needed,’ Dacklin says.”

    Lol! I checked out her Facebook page, which was predictably woke, with plenty of Negro worship. She doesn’t even get that she helped cause her own dismissal, that she’s just a useful idiot–except she’s no longer useful.

    Her colleague is even stupider.

    “Bushnell, a retired teacher with a degree in art history, served on the committee that consulted on the restructuring and the email.

    ‘I knew it would cause some stress for people, but I think it’s important that everyone feel welcome when they walk in the doors of the museum,’ says Bushnell, 66. ‘Even good change is difficult.’”

    Except that not everyone feels welcome at the museum. It’s just a different group that’s been made to feel unwelcome. Stupid sow doesn’t see that. Of course she doesn’t. She’s an educator!

    And a Nice White Lady.

    • Thanks: ic1000, bomag
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Kylie


    It’s just a different group that’s been made to feel unwelcome.
     
    Yes, except that the sacred ones were never made to feel unwelcome in the first place. It's an art museum and it's in Portland, Oregon. It was already bending over backwards to accommodate the identity politics of the Coalition.

    The difference now is that they're taking the obvious next step, as is so much of our society, and explicitly jettisoning the icky white people. The ones without whom the museum wouldn't even exist. The ones without whom the society wouldn't even exist.

    Replies: @Kylie

    , @kaganovitch
    @Kylie


    Except that not everyone feels welcome at the museum. It’s just a different group that’s been made to feel unwelcome. Stupid sow doesn’t see that. Of course she doesn’t. She’s an educator!
     
    What's tragicomic about the whole thing is, that aspirational nonsense aside, the museum goers will remain, as they ever were, largely White and Asian women. The only Bipox museum goers are school children dragooned by their institutional day care providers into museum trips. Bipox adults are by and large not museum goers and never will be. It's a good bet that the 'young mother with her baby in a traditional basket carrier' that gave rise to struggle sessions at the museum was a Liz Warren type larping as Native American.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    , @res
    @Kylie


    It’s just a different group that’s been made to feel unwelcome.
     
    Exactly. And it just so happens that group is the one which actually goes to the museum (and helps make it worthwhile). Will be interesting to see how much of an own goal this turns out to be.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Kylie

    It's the old white lady version of burn the coal, pay the toll.

    Replies: @Kylie

    , @Muggles
    @Kylie

    I suppose this museum in Portland and others are just swimming in cash.

    You fire your free volunteers who have done a professional job and you pay (allegedly) college students as short time temps to do an much inferior job.

    Say, $20/hr versus free.

    Woke in action.

    So museum funds formerly used for exhibits and upkeep will subsidize slack jawed community college students "of color" far above their local numbers or interest in the museum. Some will "work" while high on pot and others conspire to steal what they can. Gay museum administrators will be happy to recruit new young male eye candy and new adventures in the museum furnace room.

    The next museum fundraising pitch will have photos of students (acceptably non White, lots of fat lesbians) in uniforms touting their new improved non docent workforce.

    "I think da gift shop is on the first floor. I'm on my break now.."

    , @Jack P
    @Kylie

    I was feeling bad for the ladies but less so now. The vast majority probably voted for this. That's not to say Republicans are much better. Where are the House hearings on the BLM and Antifa riots? Where is the accountability?

  • Here's some good news. There's been a million dollar contest going on to figure out how to use high tech to read a Herculaneum library of extremely fragile scrolls that were damaged by the 79 AD Mt. Vesuvius eruption. They can't be unrolled without crumbling into dust. But now we have particle accelerators. The extremely...
  • @S
    @R.G. Camara


    Efficiency in rulers –and therefore good record keeping —is an important historical point.
     
    The Egyptians 3400 years ago had something which literally translated as the 'Bureau of Correspondence of Pharaoh', also known as the 'Records Office' where Egypts diplomatic notes between itself and other countries were stored at a centralized location.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_of_Correspondence_of_Pharaoh

    They've translated quite a few of the records which have been uncovered there. While some are in regards to relatively sophisticated diplomacy, some other of the records are more crude such as the one below, which is a complaint that rather than the high quality solid gold from Egypt they had been promised, they were getting cheap gold plated items instead.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarna_letters

    Letter from Tushratta to Pharaoh Akhenaten about the gold situation:

    But my brother [i.e., Akhenaten] has not sent the solid [gold] statues that your father was going to send. You have sent plated ones of wood. Nor have you sent me the goods that your father was going to send me, but you have reduced [them] greatly. Yet there is nothing I know of in which I have failed my brother. ... May my brother send me much gold.
     

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    The rise of writing probably also corresponded to the rise of a class of really annoying guys who knew lots of random facts and got really upset if you mislabeled or misquoted someone casually. After all, the scribes writing up such boring scripts had to be like that.

    • Agree: Frau Katze, Kylie
    • Thanks: S
  • Rolling Stone continues to publicly do penance for its original sin of having been created in 1967 to celebrate white guys playing rock music on electric guitars really loud. Now, its new list of the 250 Greatest Guitarists, featuring this illustration. Two white men make the collage. The featured guitarist is Yvette Young, a Chinese-American...
  • @Anonymous
    The electric guitar and by extension music that heavily features it rose to prominence not because of its superior aesthetic qualities or expressive potential but because it is cheap, loud, and easy--the same reasons rap is so popular today. In many ways, the guitar is quite limited. As a solo instrument, the percussive nature of guitar means that envelopes of notes can't be shaped with anything like the refinement of bowed strings, winds, or the voice, and the frets impose an artificial intonation good guitarists have to circumvent with string bends or the use of a slide. As a chording instrument, its palate is small compared to keyboards and true polyphony is difficult and rare outside of classical playing.

    That said, there are numerous things the guitar does uniquely well and I enjoy playing it myself. But, I can't help but feel its centrality to pop music c.1950-2000 made that music duller than it would have been otherwise.

    Replies: @Kylie, @raga10

    “In many ways, the guitar is quite limited.”

    Like the harpsichord.

    “As a solo instrument, the percussive nature of guitar means that envelopes of notes can’t be shaped with anything like the refinement of bowed strings, winds, or the voice, and the frets impose an artificial intonation good guitarists have to circumvent with string bends or the use of a slide.”

    Agreed. But pop music isn’t really noted for its refinement, irrespective of the limitations of the guitar.

    “But, I can’t help but feel its centrality to pop music c.1950-2000 made that music duller than it would have been otherwise.”

    No, in the sense you apparently mean, given the examples you’ve used, pop music was always going to be “dull”. I really think you’re conflating classical music with pop music here. Pop music is just that, popular music, the music of the people. It’s for the many, not the few.

    Here’s a personal favorite. Hope you enjoy it.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Kylie

    Thanks, Kylie. I'd never seen that video. He is a heck of a guitar player. I'd go see him but he does not tour much and then only around California. Here's one of my favorites. Also check out his acoustic Stairway to Heaven.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUiYamjM4GU

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Kylie

    , @Anonymous
    @Kylie

    Believe it or not, pop and folk music existed long before the electric guitar became dominant, and many of these older styles persist in some form today. At their best, they are sublimely, vitally melodic in a way guitar rock can never be.
    https://youtu.be/zUFg6HvljDE?feature=shared
    https://youtu.be/GrXsmfmqcFA?feature=shared

  • One of the woozier post-George Floyd Anglosphere developments was the Australian Aboriginal "Voice" referendum on whether or not to add this ill-defined language to the Australian constititution: The English language is rich in terminology for representative political bodies, such as parliament, congress, council, debating society, sounding board, etc etc. I'd never seen "voice" used as...
  • If the Australian courts work anything like the ones in the U.S., the defeat of the referendum simply means that the courts will implement its aims piecemeal, through judicial diktat. An early example here was the ERA. Although it wasn’t enacted at the federal level, it was de facto implemented. More recent examples include the judicial imposition of gay marriage (BTW, they sanitized the expression into “same-sex marriage”) despite its rejection in referenda (even in Commiefornia) and yet more recently, trannies über alles.

    • Agree: John Henry, Kylie, Old Prude
    • Replies: @dearieme
    @deep anonymous

    It must be odds against there ever being “same-sex marriage” when there are 173 genders widely spread across the population.

    Laws of probability, innit?

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    , @bomag
    @deep anonymous

    Wholly agree.

    And add the political glee with which the courts look past violent crimes of favored groups while heaping both state and federal prosecutions on un-favorable groups; convicting mere bystanders; handing out multiple life sentences and 413 year terms, etc.

    , @J.Ross
    @deep anonymous

    Agree, early word on 4chan was that while you cannot yet call the ordinary Australian awake, between their nightmare version of the lockdown and the normal behavior of aboriginals, nobody has any patience for this.

  • Rolling Stone continues to publicly do penance for its original sin of having been created in 1967 to celebrate white guys playing rock music on electric guitars really loud. Now, its new list of the 250 Greatest Guitarists, featuring this illustration. Two white men make the collage. The featured guitarist is Yvette Young, a Chinese-American...
  • @tyrone
    @Kylie


    The top five on RS’s next list
     
    .....I think they would settle for not eating twigs and bark........enough food can be a great motivator.

    Replies: @Kylie

    Sorry! That Troll was supposed to be a Lol. But I was laughing so hard I hit the wrong button. 😂

    • Replies: @tyrone
    @Kylie

    Troll ,lol, it's all good.

  • @Kylie
    The top five on RS's next list of Top 250 Guitarists.

    https://youtu.be/DeGdJgWXJ6Q?si=4paor-_B1D91QlmU

    Replies: @Joe Paluka, @tyrone

    The top five on RS’s next list

    …..I think they would settle for not eating twigs and bark……..enough food can be a great motivator.

    • Troll: Kylie
    • Replies: @Kylie
    @tyrone

    Sorry! That Troll was supposed to be a Lol. But I was laughing so hard I hit the wrong button. 😂

    Replies: @tyrone

  • Here's some good news. There's been a million dollar contest going on to figure out how to use high tech to read a Herculaneum library of extremely fragile scrolls that were damaged by the 79 AD Mt. Vesuvius eruption. They can't be unrolled without crumbling into dust. But now we have particle accelerators. The extremely...
  • @R.G. Camara
    @Kylie

    Actually, the argument today is that writing was invented first and foremost for governments to use to keep track of inventories and taxes and such.

    For many millennia, kings and emperors and pharaohs found it expedient to keep track of who owned what and how much they owed, e.g. one of the major things that William the Conqueror did and is known for was the Doomsday Book, which recorded all land holdings in England after he conquered so he could properly tax everything; William was much more efficient at taxation than the previous Anglo-Saxon kings.

    https://infogalactic.com/info/Domesday_Book

    Very good leaders kept very detailed economic records like this for two reasons: (1) to maximize taxation; and (2) to keep a close eye on the economic power of local lords and merchants to make sure they didn't get enough wealth to threaten the crown.

    Efficiency in rulers --and therefore good record keeping ---is an important historical point. One of Augustus's greatest accomplishments upon becoming the first Caesar was his efficiency reforms in Egypt. Egypt had always been wealthy, but Augustus fixed the ports on the Red Sea and Indian Ocean that had fallen into disrepair and cleaned up a lot of the corruption with grain dealing. Egypt became such a cash cow after that that Augustus made a law that the province of Egypt was a personal province ownned and governed personally by the Caesar, so as to prevent upstarts from becoming Egyptian governors and using the wealth to launch a coup. Augustus also tried reforming the corrupt tax-farming methods prevalent in the Near Eastern provinces (including Israel), which gained him popularity amongst the over-taxed locals.

    Many other great leaders in history had very precise records, which allowed greater control, wealth, and power (e.g. thanks to her great record keeping, Elizabeth I caught Shakespeare's father dealing wool illegally, which caused him to lose his position as town mayor, become the town drunk, and cause Shakespeare to make it his life's mission to become a gentleman to make up for his father's shame).

    Much of the earliest writing we've found in Crete (i.e. the great civilization that appears to either predate or exists alongside Egypt) was the kind of humdrum boring government-economic-taxes-trade kind. Linguistic carvings on statues and monuments was about the king's conquests or other great accomplishments, but writing on papyrus and other forms of proto-paper was first used for economic tracking. Quickbooks for the pre-internet world.

    That said, it will be interesting to see what shakes out. Pompeii was a thriving port town so the recordings will likely give us a better sense of the economic wealth and the type of trade and entertainment in the town (rich people sponsored games and acting troupes).

    Replies: @S, @Kylie

    What a great overview, thanks. It really irks me that I was never taught history in any way that was meaningful or memorable–except for a survey course my freshman year in college. It was “A History of Science”, devised by UMKC’s Dr. Norman Royally, Jr. It covered the Golden Mean, Francis Bacon’s Novum Organum, numeric bases, etc. It was fascinating. We were told that college graduates of all disciplines routinely named it as their favorite, most informative course. We had to read Lynn White, Jr’s Medieval Technology and Social Change, also fascinating, and the only textbook I saved from my college years.

    Half a century later, I still look back on that course as one of the highlights of my life. It heightened my awareness of everything, through all of recorded history.

    Your marvelous overview brought it all back. Thank you.

    • Thanks: R.G. Camara
  • Rolling Stone continues to publicly do penance for its original sin of having been created in 1967 to celebrate white guys playing rock music on electric guitars really loud. Now, its new list of the 250 Greatest Guitarists, featuring this illustration. Two white men make the collage. The featured guitarist is Yvette Young, a Chinese-American...
  • A list of “250 greatest guitarists” — not 25, not 75 — is no list at all; it’s simply a cowardly failure to exercise any sort of critical faculty whatsoever.

    But that’s what our society has become, one giant failure-cascade of every institution one can name.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @Joe S.Walker
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Agreed, it's far too long.

  • The world-historical question at the moment is whether American Jews -- who are, arguably, the single most influential politically mobilizable group in the modern globe -- will figure out that Woke anti-white hatred is inherently anti-Semitic. Or will they assume the solution must be tripling down yet again on promoting racist anti-white hatred as the...
  • Anon[372] • Disclaimer says:

    “…we were struck by how little the ideas themselves seemed to matter; what so many people seemed most attached to was power.”

    Conservatives want to debate the woke on the merits of their ideas. I am a bit slow. It took me some time to realize that we are not confronting the power of ideas, but rather the ideas of power. The answer to their agenda is not to win a debate, it for to us obtain power. How is the question, and one not easily answered.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @Poirot
    @Anon

    John McWhorter was a bit slow as well. But he gets it now.
    https://twitter.com/JohnHMcWhorter/status/954706351497859072

  • Rolling Stone continues to publicly do penance for its original sin of having been created in 1967 to celebrate white guys playing rock music on electric guitars really loud. Now, its new list of the 250 Greatest Guitarists, featuring this illustration. Two white men make the collage. The featured guitarist is Yvette Young, a Chinese-American...
  • @Joe Paluka
    @Kylie

    What's so creepy about it?

    Replies: @Liza, @Kylie

    It’s not creepy. Or at least no creepier than when I went to school where we had to join the choir and even worse were forced (this was in the really early grades) to do stupid dances for the school concerts just so the adults could say “Awwww, how cute!” Most of us kids were so stressed from this. Even the children who were about as graceful as draft horses had to be part of this crap.

    I am amazed at how these little guitar players negotiate the fingerboard with their tiny hands; they need smaller instruments!

    • Agree: Kylie
  • @Joe Paluka
    @Kylie

    What's so creepy about it?

    Replies: @Liza, @Kylie

    “What’s so creepy about it?” [YouTube video of Korean child guitarists]

    I have no idea. I didn’t name the video. But I have posted it other places and someone always says it’s creepy.

    Now this is creepy:

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon, tyrone
  • It’s ok. I got an inside scoop on the RS’s next big article on the greatest White American Male Musicians of all time:

    • LOL: Kylie, bomag
    • Replies: @bomag
    @Mike Tre

    I'm guessing that was the return from a Google search.

    , @Corpse Tooth
    @Mike Tre

    From a corporate party celebrating the disappearance of white men.

    Replies: @Richard B

  • The top five on RS’s next list of Top 250 Guitarists.

    • Replies: @Joe Paluka
    @Kylie

    What's so creepy about it?

    Replies: @Liza, @Kylie

    , @tyrone
    @Kylie


    The top five on RS’s next list
     
    .....I think they would settle for not eating twigs and bark........enough food can be a great motivator.

    Replies: @Kylie

  • LOL. A big, fat, LOL!

    • Agree: roonaldo, Kylie
  • The world-historical question at the moment is whether American Jews -- who are, arguably, the single most influential politically mobilizable group in the modern globe -- will figure out that Woke anti-white hatred is inherently anti-Semitic. Or will they assume the solution must be tripling down yet again on promoting racist anti-white hatred as the...
  • Very nice.

    Now let’s take two thoughts from early in the editorial, but display them in reverse order, with emphases added:

    Many of us at Tablet believed strongly, and still believe, in the possibility of creating a better world.

    For the past decade, an elite consensus began to emerge. It was marketed as a worldview of optimism, of progress and justice brought about by the dawning of correct morality.

    Okay, this could be a clue as to the root of the problem that The Editors suddenly seem to have, um, noticed.

    There is an undertone of lecturing and teaching and correcting, which some of us find annoying, that repeatedly seems to come from certain people. There is an attitude of “we will fix the world’s people for their own good, because we know better.”

    This is not much of a step away from just simple, glaring, “We are better.”

    Maybe a little more introspection could lead to the self-awareness necessary to stop causing this problem and stop pissing the rest of us of.

    Maybe people will stop meddling.

    Nah.

    • Thanks: Kylie
    • Replies: @Farenheit
    @Buzz Mohawk


    For the past decade, an elite consensus began to emerge. It was marketed as a worldview of optimism, of progress and justice brought about by the dawning of correct morality.
     
    My observation is increasing these people are incapable of realizing when their pursuit of Tikkun Olam has gone to far and degenerated into naked Frankism.
    , @Jack D
    @Buzz Mohawk

    White Christians (in particular American Protestants) had this missionary impulse for centuries and it did not really go out of style until the Soviet sponsored "anti-colonial" post WWII era. What where the thousands of American missionaries doing in China, the Pacific Islands, Africa, etc. ? Were they not trying to create a better world and teach correct morality?

    People here see Leftism as some sort of uniquely Jewish philosophy but it is not a "Jewish" philosophy at all. It is something that Westernized Jews picked up from white Protestants, who were their heroes and idols. The much derided here "tikkun olam" (repair the world) was meant, in its original Jewish form, not to mean social activism but rather to refer to prayer and ritual observance. Its modern usage by the Jewish Left was meant to put a Jewish spin on very non-Jewish social activism, to make the pig kosher so to speak.


    The Yiddish radio station in NY had the call sign "WEVD" in honor of their hero, the American democratic socialist Eugene V. Debs. Most of the program of the democratic socialists (40 hr work week, free public education etc.) was eventually picked up by the Democrat Party and became mainstream among Americans and not just Jews. The new immigrant American Jews did not take their role models from Jewish history nor from the bearded rebbes who concerned themselves with whether this or that defect made the chicken not kosher. They deemed this all irrelevant to their sweatshop working conditions and American labor leaders like Debs were the ones that guided them. Likewise, the Forverts (the largest Yiddish daily paper) was not modeled after anything in the Old Country but after American taibloids.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Buzz Mohawk, @Dumbo, @LCtombraider, @Not Raul, @Pop Warner

    , @The_Other_Romanian
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Frank Herbert said in the Dune Chronicles that liberals are closet aristocrats... only THEY know what's best, they'll do what THEY think is best for YOU, despite any (racist, misogynistic, etc) misgivings you might have or protests you might undertake.

    Truer words never written, IMO.

  • Here's some good news. There's been a million dollar contest going on to figure out how to use high tech to read a Herculaneum library of extremely fragile scrolls that were damaged by the 79 AD Mt. Vesuvius eruption. They can't be unrolled without crumbling into dust. But now we have particle accelerators. The extremely...
  • @Kylie
    "Today we are announcing a major breakthrough in the Vesuvius Challenge: we have read the first word from an unopened Herculaneum scroll.
    The word is "πορφυρας" which means 'purple dye' or 'cloths of purple'."

    The color purple. It figures.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @epebble

    The word is “πορφυρας” which means ‘purple dye’ or ‘cloths of purple’.”

    That word porphyrin is used today in organic chemistry to denote the class of compounds that give color to plants and animals. The famous ones being Chlorophyll and Hemoglobin for green and red colors.

    • Thanks: Kylie
  • @Kylie
    "Today we are announcing a major breakthrough in the Vesuvius Challenge: we have read the first word from an unopened Herculaneum scroll.
    The word is "πορφυρας" which means 'purple dye' or 'cloths of purple'."

    The color purple. It figures.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @epebble

    Actually, the argument today is that writing was invented first and foremost for governments to use to keep track of inventories and taxes and such.

    For many millennia, kings and emperors and pharaohs found it expedient to keep track of who owned what and how much they owed, e.g. one of the major things that William the Conqueror did and is known for was the Doomsday Book, which recorded all land holdings in England after he conquered so he could properly tax everything; William was much more efficient at taxation than the previous Anglo-Saxon kings.

    https://infogalactic.com/info/Domesday_Book

    Very good leaders kept very detailed economic records like this for two reasons: (1) to maximize taxation; and (2) to keep a close eye on the economic power of local lords and merchants to make sure they didn’t get enough wealth to threaten the crown.

    Efficiency in rulers –and therefore good record keeping —is an important historical point. One of Augustus’s greatest accomplishments upon becoming the first Caesar was his efficiency reforms in Egypt. Egypt had always been wealthy, but Augustus fixed the ports on the Red Sea and Indian Ocean that had fallen into disrepair and cleaned up a lot of the corruption with grain dealing. Egypt became such a cash cow after that that Augustus made a law that the province of Egypt was a personal province ownned and governed personally by the Caesar, so as to prevent upstarts from becoming Egyptian governors and using the wealth to launch a coup. Augustus also tried reforming the corrupt tax-farming methods prevalent in the Near Eastern provinces (including Israel), which gained him popularity amongst the over-taxed locals.

    Many other great leaders in history had very precise records, which allowed greater control, wealth, and power (e.g. thanks to her great record keeping, Elizabeth I caught Shakespeare’s father dealing wool illegally, which caused him to lose his position as town mayor, become the town drunk, and cause Shakespeare to make it his life’s mission to become a gentleman to make up for his father’s shame).

    Much of the earliest writing we’ve found in Crete (i.e. the great civilization that appears to either predate or exists alongside Egypt) was the kind of humdrum boring government-economic-taxes-trade kind. Linguistic carvings on statues and monuments was about the king’s conquests or other great accomplishments, but writing on papyrus and other forms of proto-paper was first used for economic tracking. Quickbooks for the pre-internet world.

    That said, it will be interesting to see what shakes out. Pompeii was a thriving port town so the recordings will likely give us a better sense of the economic wealth and the type of trade and entertainment in the town (rich people sponsored games and acting troupes).

    • Replies: @S
    @R.G. Camara


    Efficiency in rulers –and therefore good record keeping —is an important historical point.
     
    The Egyptians 3400 years ago had something which literally translated as the 'Bureau of Correspondence of Pharaoh', also known as the 'Records Office' where Egypts diplomatic notes between itself and other countries were stored at a centralized location.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_of_Correspondence_of_Pharaoh

    They've translated quite a few of the records which have been uncovered there. While some are in regards to relatively sophisticated diplomacy, some other of the records are more crude such as the one below, which is a complaint that rather than the high quality solid gold from Egypt they had been promised, they were getting cheap gold plated items instead.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarna_letters

    Letter from Tushratta to Pharaoh Akhenaten about the gold situation:

    But my brother [i.e., Akhenaten] has not sent the solid [gold] statues that your father was going to send. You have sent plated ones of wood. Nor have you sent me the goods that your father was going to send me, but you have reduced [them] greatly. Yet there is nothing I know of in which I have failed my brother. ... May my brother send me much gold.
     

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    , @Kylie
    @R.G. Camara

    What a great overview, thanks. It really irks me that I was never taught history in any way that was meaningful or memorable--except for a survey course my freshman year in college. It was "A History of Science", devised by UMKC's Dr. Norman Royally, Jr. It covered the Golden Mean, Francis Bacon's Novum Organum, numeric bases, etc. It was fascinating. We were told that college graduates of all disciplines routinely named it as their favorite, most informative course. We had to read Lynn White, Jr's Medieval Technology and Social Change, also fascinating, and the only textbook I saved from my college years.

    Half a century later, I still look back on that course as one of the highlights of my life. It heightened my awareness of everything, through all of recorded history.

    Your marvelous overview brought it all back. Thank you.

  • Probably a lot of ads with a few stories about a war in the Middle East.

  • “Today we are announcing a major breakthrough in the Vesuvius Challenge: we have read the first word from an unopened Herculaneum scroll.
    The word is “πορφυρας” which means ‘purple dye’ or ‘cloths of purple’.”

    The color purple. It figures.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @Kylie

    Actually, the argument today is that writing was invented first and foremost for governments to use to keep track of inventories and taxes and such.

    For many millennia, kings and emperors and pharaohs found it expedient to keep track of who owned what and how much they owed, e.g. one of the major things that William the Conqueror did and is known for was the Doomsday Book, which recorded all land holdings in England after he conquered so he could properly tax everything; William was much more efficient at taxation than the previous Anglo-Saxon kings.

    https://infogalactic.com/info/Domesday_Book

    Very good leaders kept very detailed economic records like this for two reasons: (1) to maximize taxation; and (2) to keep a close eye on the economic power of local lords and merchants to make sure they didn't get enough wealth to threaten the crown.

    Efficiency in rulers --and therefore good record keeping ---is an important historical point. One of Augustus's greatest accomplishments upon becoming the first Caesar was his efficiency reforms in Egypt. Egypt had always been wealthy, but Augustus fixed the ports on the Red Sea and Indian Ocean that had fallen into disrepair and cleaned up a lot of the corruption with grain dealing. Egypt became such a cash cow after that that Augustus made a law that the province of Egypt was a personal province ownned and governed personally by the Caesar, so as to prevent upstarts from becoming Egyptian governors and using the wealth to launch a coup. Augustus also tried reforming the corrupt tax-farming methods prevalent in the Near Eastern provinces (including Israel), which gained him popularity amongst the over-taxed locals.

    Many other great leaders in history had very precise records, which allowed greater control, wealth, and power (e.g. thanks to her great record keeping, Elizabeth I caught Shakespeare's father dealing wool illegally, which caused him to lose his position as town mayor, become the town drunk, and cause Shakespeare to make it his life's mission to become a gentleman to make up for his father's shame).

    Much of the earliest writing we've found in Crete (i.e. the great civilization that appears to either predate or exists alongside Egypt) was the kind of humdrum boring government-economic-taxes-trade kind. Linguistic carvings on statues and monuments was about the king's conquests or other great accomplishments, but writing on papyrus and other forms of proto-paper was first used for economic tracking. Quickbooks for the pre-internet world.

    That said, it will be interesting to see what shakes out. Pompeii was a thriving port town so the recordings will likely give us a better sense of the economic wealth and the type of trade and entertainment in the town (rich people sponsored games and acting troupes).

    Replies: @S, @Kylie

    , @epebble
    @Kylie

    The word is “πορφυρας” which means ‘purple dye’ or ‘cloths of purple’.”

    That word porphyrin is used today in organic chemistry to denote the class of compounds that give color to plants and animals. The famous ones being Chlorophyll and Hemoglobin for green and red colors.

  • οι ζωές των μαύρων έχουν σημασία

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @kaganovitch

    The study of classics reinforces the fact that human nature is timeless. We learn that Stonehenge was built by black Britons before they were driven out by White interlopers.

    Now, more than ever, Black Lives Matter !

    , @Verymuchalive
    @kaganovitch

    Surely:
    οι ζωές των μαύρων έχουν αξία

    PS Are their any COCs out there ( Classicists of Color ). Donna Zuckerberg, please tell !

    Replies: @whereismyhandle, @kaganovitch

    , @Graham
    @kaganovitch

    That is modern Greek, though, isn't it? How about this (forgive lack of accents)?

    ἁι των μελανων ἀνθρωπων ψυξαι διαφερουσιν

    Replies: @Graham

    , @Cagey Beast
    @kaganovitch

    This reminds me of a long-ago conversation online. People were trying to come up with a word like "homophobia" for the fear and hatred of Whites. Someone suggested "lefkophobia" which apparently means something like "fear of bed sheets" in modern Greek.

  • Diversity of birds, that is. From the Los Angeles Times news section: Boyle Heights, just east of downtown Los Angeles was laid out densely in the later 19th century with small lots to squeeze in to provide modest single family homes for workers to walk to work downtown. It was not a tenement district, but...
  • @Achmed E. Newman
    You could have had a lot of big beautiful trees in your neighborhood had you planted them in the 1950s! Even the 1970s and 1980s would have sufficed. Black people didn't seem to make the effort. Even the slow-growing Live Oaks would have been pretty big by now.

    If you want a nice leafy neighborhood, you have to plant trees yourself and take care of them when they're young. "What's the best time to plant a tree?" "When you moved in here." What's the 2nd best time?" "Right now." Of course, if you want a nice leafy neighborhood, you can't be a bunch of black people, almost by definition.

    .

    Full Disclosure: I planted 3 Sycamores for the shade. Oh, yeah you get shade alright with some of the leaves measuring 18" across! However, after I realized I couldn't have Sycamore trees and a lawn or even good roofing shingles, they were too big to cut down myself after 8 years only! Don't do it.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home), @Hypnotoad666

    You could have had a lot of big beautiful trees in your neighborhood had you planted them in the 1950s!

    For the less patient, you can use one of these sci-fi looking machines to just bring in full-size trees. If the woke reporter knew this was possible he’d probably advocate for “tree equity” by taking trees from Beverly Hills and relocating them to Boyle Heights. But I guess that wouldn’t work because trees can’t grow in redlined tragic dirt, or something.

    • LOL: Kylie
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Hypnotoad666

    Yep, less patient but richer. I can indeed see the woke ones pushing tree equity.

    BTW, regarding iSteve's point about the canopy coverage, before I had one healthy but still very worrisome tree taken down, I had enough canopy to where one couldn't see the house at all on google Earth, etc, in the summertime. Then there was the street view picture of me flipping off the google car. (I can't even remember doing it, but there I was, and it is something I would have done...)

    Nice machine! Beats the hell out of digging, even if you ARE a Mexican.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

  • @Arclight
    Whites love nature more than any other group in America and put a lot of effort into landscaping. I don't think I have ever driven through a majority black neighborhood - even a middle class one - in which I would describe the scenery as anything above average, and lower income ones are notable for being totally denuded of trees and lawns worn away to dust. I have less experience with Latinos but they don't seem to be enthusiastic about beautifying their yards either.

    I was involved in the rehab of a large "diverse" apartment community years ago, and as the property had almost no landscaping (it was 40 years old at that point) I thought it would be nice to spend some of our budget on some trees and ground plantings in key areas to create a more pleasant environment. They were enthusiastically destroyed by the residents within a month.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @Kylie, @Currahee, @Frau Katze, @Nicholas Stix, @Old Prude

    Kramer and the two detectives, Martin and Goldberg, arrived at the Edgar Allen Poe Towers in an unmarked Dodge sedan about 4:15. The demonstration was scheduled for five o’clock. The housing project had been designed during the Green Grass era of slum eradication. The idea had been to build apartment towers upon a grassy landscape where the young might gambol and the old might sit beneath shade trees, along sinuous footpaths. In fact, the gamboling youth broke off, cut down, or uprooted the shade-tree seedlings during the first month, and any old person fool enough to sit among the sinuous footpaths was in for the same treatment. The project was now a huge cluster of grimy brick towers set on a slab of cinders and stomped dirt. With the green wooden slats long gone, the concrete supports of the benches looked like ancient ruins.

    The Bonfire of the Vanities, p. 297

    • Thanks: Kylie, Frau Katze
    • Replies: @Arclight
    @Stan Adams

    A black acquaintance of mine used to help his grandfather do maintenance and collect rent from several properties the grandfather owned in a black neighborhood. My friend noted the front yards were just dirt and perhaps grandpa should put some sod down to make them nicer for the residents to enjoy. Grandpa essentially said it's pointless, the kind of people that live in that neighborhood would just destroy it and it would be a waste of his money. I heard some other stories about grandpa's thoughts, based as hell.

    Nice quote - I recognized it immediately.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  • From NBC News: A lot of those 18 to 25 years olds are adults who don't want to be found by, say, D'Quantavious or his cousins, because they've got some questions they want to ask the Ebony Alert subject about the shooting of D'Quantavious's little brother. “Data shows that Black and brown, our ind
  • Didn’t they have this back in the 1850s?

    Then it was called Fugitive Slave Laws.

    • LOL: Gfddffdddiiut, Dmon, Kylie
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @R.G. Camara



    Didn’t they have this back in the 1850s? Then it was called Fugitive Slave Laws.
     
    “Black people is bad bargaining chips”
     
    The incomprehensible part is that anyone would want them back. At least with "Ebony", it's the blood relatives.

    Replies: @Jack D

  • From my new column in Taki's Magazine: Mute Inglorious Shakespeares Steve Sailer October 11, 2023 In Michael Lewis’ new biography of Sam Bankman-Fried, Going Infinite, Lewis quotes the accused cryptocurrency embezzler’s rationalist case against Shakespeare: I could go on and on about the failings of Shakespeare…but really I shouldn’t need to: the Bayesian priors are...
  • @HammerJack
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    You can follow music history from (omitting a lot of names) Bach to Vivaldi to Mozart to Beethoven to Brahms. Then there’s Dvorak (died 1904) and then, who? Copland’s Fanfare for the Common Man is all I can think of.
     
    Do you really not appreciate Stravinsky?! Shostakovich? Prokofiev? Gershwin? Hindemith? Bartók? Messiaen? Vaughan Williams?

    I wouldn't put most of these men up with the all-time greats, but it's not as though music totally atrophied in the early 20th century. Very much the contrary.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Kylie

    “Do you really not appreciate Stravinsky?! Shostakovich? Prokofiev? Gershwin? Hindemith? Bartók? Messiaen? Vaughan Williams?”

    I am dismayed you included Shostakovich in that group. At his best, he has unmatched depths that profoundly affect not only knowledgeable music lovers but members of the general public.

    • Replies: @Punch Brother Punch
    @Kylie

    The late British music critic Ian MacDonald, who is best remembered for his highly regarded book about The Beatles and the 1960s, also wrote a book called "The New Shostakovich" which argues that much of the composer's work, such as the famous Fifth Symphony, is actually an attack on and satire of Stalinism. Well worth reading.

    , @Known Fact
    @Kylie

    Shosty indeed was one of the greats and the last of the greats. Visceral power, even in the quietest moments. Walk in on most of his works and you know it's him in just a note or two

    , @HammerJack
    @Kylie

    So why then should he not be included in that august group? I'm genuinely confused. I expected the criticism to come from exactly the opposite direction, as some critics (not me, obviously) refuse to take him seriously.

  • @AceDeuce
    FTA:

    in Raymond Chandler’s The Long Goodbye, a drunken client suddenly informs detective Philip Marlowe that cultural progress is due to gays:

    “The queer is the artistic arbiter of our age, chum.”…

    “That so? Always been around, hasn’t he?”…

    “Sure, thousands of years. And especially in all the great ages of art. Athens, Rome, the Renaissance, the Elizabethan Age, the Romantic Movement in France—loaded with them.”
     
    What's that old joke? If you took the jews and homos out of the art and entertainment worlds, you'd be left with John Wayne, Shirley Temple, and Rin Tin Tin--and the Sistine Chapel ceiling would be painted Benjamin Moore's Navaho White.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘What’s that old joke? If you took the jews and homos out of the art and entertainment worlds, you’d be left with John Wayne, Shirley Temple, and Rin Tin Tin–and the Sistine Chapel ceiling would be painted Benjamin Moore’s Navaho White.’

    Reminds me: that thing’s a complete let down. I can get my socks knocked dutifully off — Monet’s waterlilies, Sainte Chapelle, Fez, Venice, Hagia Sofia — but the Sistine Chapel ceiling? Gaudy and overrated.

    Painting it Benjamin Moore’s Navajo White would be an over-reaction, of course.

    • LOL: Kylie
  • Diversity of birds, that is. From the Los Angeles Times news section: Boyle Heights, just east of downtown Los Angeles was laid out densely in the later 19th century with small lots to squeeze in to provide modest single family homes for workers to walk to work downtown. It was not a tenement district, but...
  • @Arclight
    Whites love nature more than any other group in America and put a lot of effort into landscaping. I don't think I have ever driven through a majority black neighborhood - even a middle class one - in which I would describe the scenery as anything above average, and lower income ones are notable for being totally denuded of trees and lawns worn away to dust. I have less experience with Latinos but they don't seem to be enthusiastic about beautifying their yards either.

    I was involved in the rehab of a large "diverse" apartment community years ago, and as the property had almost no landscaping (it was 40 years old at that point) I thought it would be nice to spend some of our budget on some trees and ground plantings in key areas to create a more pleasant environment. They were enthusiastically destroyed by the residents within a month.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @Kylie, @Currahee, @Frau Katze, @Nicholas Stix, @Old Prude

    “Whites love nature more than any other group in America and put a lot of effort into landscaping. I don’t think I have ever driven through a majority black neighborhood – even a middle class one – in which I would describe the scenery as anything above average, and lower income ones are notable for being totally denuded of trees and lawns worn away to dust.”

    That’s been my observation here in the Midwest. It goes even further than that. I used to hang out with the homeless guys who sat on the curb outside of the 7/11. When the white guys got sandwiches or loaves of bread from the food pantry, they made sure to toss crusts and crumbs to the wild birds foraging in the vacant lot across the street. I never saw the black guys do that.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Kylie

    I imagine that the urge to feed animals, along with the urge to collect stuff, are legacies of winter preparation in northern climates.

  • From my new column in Taki's Magazine: Mute Inglorious Shakespeares Steve Sailer October 11, 2023 In Michael Lewis’ new biography of Sam Bankman-Fried, Going Infinite, Lewis quotes the accused cryptocurrency embezzler’s rationalist case against Shakespeare: I could go on and on about the failings of Shakespeare…but really I shouldn’t need to: the Bayesian priors are...
  • @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Kylie

    "Outsong In The Jungle" brings tears to my eyes every time. Just incredible. Much more punch and compelling than "If," my opinion.

    For the sake of him who showed
    One wise Frog the Jungle-Road,
    Keep the Law the Man-Pack make
    For thy blind old Baloo's sake!
    Clean or tainted, hot or stale,
    Hold it as it were the Trail,
    Through the day and through the night,
    Questing neither left nor right.
    For the sake of him who loves
    Thee beyond all else that moves,
    When thy Pack would make thee pain,
    Say: " Tabaqui sings again."
    When thy Pack would work thee ill,
    Say: "Shere Khan is yet to kill."
    When the knife is drawn to slay,
    Keep the Law and go thy way.
    (Root and honey, palm and spathe,
    Guard a cub from harm and scathe!)
    Wood and Water, Wind and Tree,
    Jungle-Favour go with thee!

    And this:

    Subadar Prag Tewarri
    Put the head of the Boh
    On the top of the mound of triumph,
    The head of his son below—
    With the sword and the peacock-banner
    That the world might behold and know.

    Thus the samadh was perfect,
    Thus was the lesson plain
    Of the wrath of the First Shikaris -
    The price of a white man slain;
    And the men of the First Shikaris
    Went back into camp again.

    Then a silence came to the river,
    A hush fell over the shore,
    And Bohs that were brave departed,
    And Sniders squibbed no more;
    For the Burmans said
    That a white man's head
    Must be paid for with heads five-score.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Wielgus

    ““Outsong In The Jungle” brings tears to my eyes every time. Just incredible.”

    Yes. It reminds me of the last chapter of Kim, when he’s talking with the lama. Both are concerned with alien orphans loved and taught and protected by their elders, despite the barriers that ordinarily would prevent those bonds from forming.

    “Never was such a chela. I doubt at times whether Ananda more faithfully nursed Our Lord. And thou art a Sahib? When I was a man—a long time ago—I forgot that. Now I look upon thee often, and every time I remember that thou art a Sahib. It is strange.”

    “Thou hast said there is neither black nor white. Why plague me with this talk, Holy One? Let me rub the other foot. It vexes me. I am not a Sahib. I am thy chela, and my head is heavy on my shoulders.”

    The Grave of the Hundred Head is also about the bonds formed across boundaries. As is Mandalay.

    I turn to Kipling more often than to anyone else.

  • @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Steve Sailer

    I've always thought Rudyard Kipling's 'Captains Courageous' would make a great film. If I were a multi-zillionaire I'd definitely fund it as a vanity project. (The 1937 version absolutely butchered it.)

    Kipling was probably the wisest modern we'll ever have, but when I mention him to peers and younger family members I might as well be talking about Habakkuk.

    By the way, the notoriously declasse' Golan & Globus included a great Shakespeare excerpt in 'Runaway Train,' now recognized as a film classic.

    https://i.imgur.com/KiqBNA2.jpg

    "No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity.
    But I know none, and therefore am no beast."

    (This is actually a photo of iSteve commenters kaganovitch and International Jew in their younger days.)

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Kylie

    “Kipling was probably the wisest modern we’ll ever have, but when I mention him to peers and younger family members I might as well be talking about Habakkuk.”

    I absolutely adore Kipling and agree he was the wisest modern we’ll ever have (no need for “probably” when discussing a certainty). Though he was an early casualty of the left’s Long March, his presence is still ubiquitous, if diffused.

    https://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Kylie

    "Outsong In The Jungle" brings tears to my eyes every time. Just incredible. Much more punch and compelling than "If," my opinion.

    For the sake of him who showed
    One wise Frog the Jungle-Road,
    Keep the Law the Man-Pack make
    For thy blind old Baloo's sake!
    Clean or tainted, hot or stale,
    Hold it as it were the Trail,
    Through the day and through the night,
    Questing neither left nor right.
    For the sake of him who loves
    Thee beyond all else that moves,
    When thy Pack would make thee pain,
    Say: " Tabaqui sings again."
    When thy Pack would work thee ill,
    Say: "Shere Khan is yet to kill."
    When the knife is drawn to slay,
    Keep the Law and go thy way.
    (Root and honey, palm and spathe,
    Guard a cub from harm and scathe!)
    Wood and Water, Wind and Tree,
    Jungle-Favour go with thee!

    And this:

    Subadar Prag Tewarri
    Put the head of the Boh
    On the top of the mound of triumph,
    The head of his son below—
    With the sword and the peacock-banner
    That the world might behold and know.

    Thus the samadh was perfect,
    Thus was the lesson plain
    Of the wrath of the First Shikaris -
    The price of a white man slain;
    And the men of the First Shikaris
    Went back into camp again.

    Then a silence came to the river,
    A hush fell over the shore,
    And Bohs that were brave departed,
    And Sniders squibbed no more;
    For the Burmans said
    That a white man's head
    Must be paid for with heads five-score.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Wielgus

  • @Kylie
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    "Politics – any Pericles, Caesar Augustus, Constantine? Stop laughing!

    We don’t have a single person even close to one of those giants walking among us today. Nobody. Never again."

    I'd settle for an Enoch Powell. A politician who was a soldier, scholar and poet.

    Replies: @Dmon

    I take exception to that. Our very own Germ Theory of Disease, when commenting on the incoherent ramblings of some large negress concerning the injustice of racist hair or some such thing, once uttered the immortal line, “Is it possible for a sentence to be spoken in crayon?”.

    Even in this benighted age, giants still walk the earth.

    • LOL: Kylie
  • @Jonathan Mason
    @Sollipsist

    The trouble is great rock guitarists is that technically they are nowhere as good as the greatest jazz guitarists, so it all comes down to feel. I don't think Roger Gilmore of Pink Floyd is any great shakes as a guitarist, but many people love the sound of his music.

    Replies: @Sollipsist, @Kylie, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    “I don’t think Roger Gilmore of Pink Floyd is any great shakes as a guitarist, but many people love the sound of his music.”

    I’m one of the many. I realize he’s not a virtuoso. He doesn’t have to be. He does more with less in a way that’s beautiful, unforgettable and spiritual.

    For me, the three greatest guitarists are Gilmore, B.B. King and Justin Johnson. Close behind them is Mississippi John Hurt, another one who does more with less.

  • @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Technology accretes. Power tools, even humble measuring tapes and levels, just keep getting better and better. Commercial air travel keeps getting safer and safer. And the completely automated cockpits will roll out just in time for Frontier Airlines to announce the first cabin crew of pure pickaninny! Oop! Skree!

    Arts - different animal entirely. With 7,400,000,000 more people on the planet we do not, as it turns out, have a thousand Shakespeares, a thousand Bachs, a thousand Michelangelos.

    Politics - any Pericles, Caesar Augustus, Constantine? Stop laughing!

    https://i.imgur.com/gRI1zjP.jpg

    We don't have a single person even close to one of those giants walking among us today. Nobody. Never again. Now, people question whether men ever landed on the Moon. Another 50 years and they won't know what all those empty buildings and cooling towers at Savannah River were ever for. Love to be proven wrong but I won't be around to see it.

    Sam Bank Man Fried, like Tyler Cowen, Richard Hannabarbara, Matt Julio Yglesias, typefy the modern conceit. How can the US ever be great with a niggardly 330 million people?!, they rage. We need more people, doing more things, inventing more crypto, crypto funds, crypto securities, crypto derivatives, lecturing the rest of us about gas grills! Nope it will not happen. No future Dune-tier space operas with god-emperors and royal houses, no galaxy-conquering wars. Just rabble trapped under an iron dome of technology and modernity and the eternal spic-nig cycle. No space aliens either.

    Steve seems really enamored of sports I guess because it's like heroic warfare but without all that spurting blood and agonized screaming and men and war horses in berserker mode. Personally I think our culture is way too obsessed with sports and athletes. Outside of a few GOATs, most of them are not particularly bright or noble souls and they will get old and sick like the rest of us, often sicker.

    Speaking of, poor Mary Lou Retton is apparently on ventilation in ICU with some really nasty pneumonia and is an indigent patient! Holy hell, and she was my dream prom date 😥. She was recently in some Colonial Penn commercials and looked awful and you could hear her struggling to keep her voice up. Poor woman is only 55. In sum, sports accomplishments are very fleeting and in the end it is just disposable entertainment dollars. Nothing ennobling or existential about it, really.

    Replies: @Captain Tripps, @Kylie, @Steven Wilson, @Anonymous, @Corvinus

    “Politics – any Pericles, Caesar Augustus, Constantine? Stop laughing!

    We don’t have a single person even close to one of those giants walking among us today. Nobody. Never again.”

    I’d settle for an Enoch Powell. A politician who was a soldier, scholar and poet.

    • Replies: @Dmon
    @Kylie

    I take exception to that. Our very own Germ Theory of Disease, when commenting on the incoherent ramblings of some large negress concerning the injustice of racist hair or some such thing, once uttered the immortal line, "Is it possible for a sentence to be spoken in crayon?".

    Even in this benighted age, giants still walk the earth.

  • As an early modern, Shakespeare still had access to medieval insights into the inner world of man that were subsequently forgotten as thinkers turned their attentions outward to the material world.

    There may be people who can write as well as Shakespeare today, but there must be vanishingly few with the psychological sophistication to produce Hamlet or King Lear.

    I read Hanania’s thoughts on this and noticed that he invoked the Flynn effect in support of his argument. I think he and many others make a mistake in assuming that the Flynn effect marks a quantitative rather than qualitative change in mental capacites over time. People have always thought, and thinking leads to knowledge, but different kinds of thinking leads to different kinds of knowledge.

    I’m sure Hanania assumes that premoderns thought incorrectly, and therefore wasted their efforts, but that’s a childish take on things. Certainly their rudimentary scientific ideas were inferior to ours, but the psychological and metaphysical ideas of our time are patently stupid in comparison to, say, those of Plotinus, Augustine, Aquinas and Mulla Sadra.

    So if Shakespeare was a genius in a time when people had a better understanding of the human heart and soul than contemporary mankind, there is nothing far-fetched to the notion that he surpasses any living dramatist. I’d even go so far as to say that Bankman-fried and Hanania rather lend support to it with their bloodless statistical arguments.

    • Agree: kaganovitch, Tex
    • Thanks: res, J.Ross, Kylie, ic1000
    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @Bill P


    So if Shakespeare was a genius in a time when people had a better understanding of the human heart and soul than contemporary mankind
     
    Shakespeare lived in a time when people didn’t spend the bulk of their lives learning about other people through a television or computer screen. Living in the pre-industrial era may have helped, as well.
  • With raids on civilians and hostage-taking back in the news, I looked up the Comanches' Great Raid of 1840 that destroyed forever the Texas port city of Linnville, about halfway between Houston and Corpus Christi. As with many ethnic conflicts, who were the bad guys and who were the good guys tend to flip-flop depending...
  • @Dream
    Why are conservative Americans like this?

    https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1711928827318866331?t=-9syu4rm4zpRhoWMOFHxkw&s=19

    Replies: @Kylie, @Anon, @deep anonymous, @JosephD, @Director95, @anonymouseperson, @James Braxton, @Dr. X

    “Why are conservative Americans like this?”

    I don’t consider Lindsey Graham a conservative.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Kylie

    I don't consider him an American.

    , @John Henry
    @Kylie

    Agree. He is a blood thirsty neo-con. Ready to send other people to fight his endless wars.

    , @Bard of Bumperstickers
    @Kylie

    Agreed about Graham.

    For many conservative Christians, though, Israel can do no wrong.


    NewsGuard Adviser Michael Hayden Calls for Sen. Tommy Tuberville to Be ‘Removed’ from the Human Race
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/10/former-cia-nsa-director-gen-michael-hayden-calls-for-sen-tuberville-to-be-removed-from-human-race/

    Be pro-Israel, or be unpersoned.

    "Entangling alliances with none."
    https://mises.org/wire/get-us-out-middle-east

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    , @Wilkey
    @Kylie

    Lindsey is the dork who’s trying to make friends with the popular kid. The dork thinks he’s making progress, while the popular kid will just ignore him or mock him when he’s no longer useful.

    I have nothing against Israel or its survival. I just don’t understand why so many non-Jewish Americans are so damn obsessed with it, even as they embrace the overrunning of every other Western country by Third World invaders.

    Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians will probably end up leaving Gaza, and guess where they’ll want to go? Thousands of them will be coming to a neighborhood near you.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @Jack Armstrong

    , @Anonymous
    @Kylie


    I don’t consider Lindsey Graham a conservative.
     
    And what about the people who keep electing him?

    Graham's ravings are not some bizarre aberration.
    , @Legba
    @Kylie

    He wears a garter belt & silk stockings under the suit, just like the rest of them.

  • From a 2019 iSteve posting: The Women's Lib Inflection Point STEVE SAILER • NOVEMBER 2, 2019 • 1,500 WORDS • 196 COMMENTS A popular study hyped by Malcolm Gladwell et al is that people are so implicitly biased against hiring women that when orchestras have potential hires audition “blind” behind a screen, women are hired...
  • @Stripes Duncan
    @deep anonymous


    Destroying affordable family formation
     
    I wish this trope would die. I'm raising a family of four in the Seattle area on one income that's just over six figures. That's a lower-middle income where we live, and we live better than people we know living hand-to-mouth on 300k a year.

    You can live the lifestyle your grandparents did. The key is you need to live the lifestyle your grandparents did. They didn't go to restaurants. They didn't do international jet travel. They didn't have four-figure monthly car payments. They weren't shelling out a hundred dollars a month to several streaming services. They mowed their own lawns and did their own oil changes.

    "It's too expensive to raise children" but somehow legions of single mothers are doing it.....

    Replies: @Kylie, @deep anonymous, @res

    ““It’s too expensive to raise children” but somehow legions of single mothers are doing it…..”

    Lol! That’s the best you could come up with?

  • Back in 1992, East Palo Alto, CA briefly became the murder capital of America with 42 killings. So an enterprising Stanford professor invented a acoustics listening devices for triangulating where gunshots were fired: ShotSpotter. Ever since, ShotSpotter has been accused of racism since it tends to find that the most gunshots are fired in black...
  • @Cool Daddy Jimbo
    I've become comfortable with the idea that the powers-that-be hate me and my kind. But I swear, I'm starting to think they actually hate black people and want them to kill each other.

    Replies: @Kylie

    “I’ve become comfortable with the idea that the powers-that-be hate me and my kind.”

    Me, too. Well, maybe not comfortable, exactly, but used to it.

    “But I swear, I’m starting to think they actually hate black people and want them to kill each other.”

    I don’t think so. I think TPTB hate us so much that if allowing blacks to kill each other will have a negative impact on us, so be it. The dead blacks are just collateral damage.

  • From a 2019 iSteve posting: The Women's Lib Inflection Point STEVE SAILER • NOVEMBER 2, 2019 • 1,500 WORDS • 196 COMMENTS A popular study hyped by Malcolm Gladwell et al is that people are so implicitly biased against hiring women that when orchestras have potential hires audition “blind” behind a screen, women are hired...
  • @AndrewR
    @Cagey Beast

    Good discussion.

    One thing he said that I want to elaborate on is that we used to be able to express almost any opinion as long as it was done with some politeness. Now there's an extremely narrow Overton window, but if you have the "correct" views then you can be as vulgar and rude (and often even physically violent) as you want in expressing them.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

    You reminded me of a video clip I saw more than a decade ago. Ray McGovern stood up in the crowd at a speaking event to demand answers from Don Rumsfeld. Rumsfeld called off the security guards and said “let him speak”. Rumsfeld was a notorious SOB but had enough of a sense of fair play to do that. That’s gone now.

    • Agree: Kylie, J.Ross