Non-binary and gender-fluid Finno-Poofs fear that Vladimir the Exterminator will powder them with Zyklon-B and DDT, and therefore seek refuge in the hairy bosom of NATOO-Poof, a giant Teddy Bear.

Finno-Poofs do not yet know that NATOO-Poof will extract rent.

That’s depressing, but thanks for the info!

What’s the matter with such otherwise fine people as the Finns, Poles, Estonians, and others that past conflicts with tsarist Russia will drive them straight into the arms of blood-thirsty, baby-killing, White-hating, genital-chopping, U.S. Zio-Globohomo? (I don’t count the Jewish dominated Soviet Union as Russian, but they seem to. Again, why?)

It’s the curse of narrow European midwit nationalism rising up again to cut off its nose to spite its face, to throw in with those who hate them with genocidal passion rather than live in peace with fellow Whites. It reminds me of our own Civil War, past and present, wherein nothing can stop status-striving, virtue-signaling, self-righteous Whites from having at the only rivals who count, I suppose, their fellow Whites.

One would hope we’d have learned by now but perhaps we’re just doomed by our own hubris and narrow-mindedness. If so, I suppose the best we might hope for is that the Chinese write some nice tragic operas about us!

All parties are of the same ilk, including the “nationalist, right-wing” fake opposition. There did not seem to be any discussion about NATO before the election.

Here are results from the NATO vote in the representative assembly in 2022. Some trouble counting votes, it seems — 184 or 188 out of 200 were pro-NATO.

Eduskunta hyväksyi Suomen Nato-sopimuksen äänin 184–7. Tyhjiä ääniä annettiin yksi, poissa oli seitsemän edustajaa.
https://yle.fi/a/3-12689401

Suomen eduskunta äänesti NATO-hakemuksen puolesta – ”Hakemus toimitetaan Brysseliin.”
Eduskunnassa äänestettiin NATO-hakemuksen jättämisen puolesta äänin 188-8. Hakemus lähetetään Brysseliin keskiviikkona 18.5.
17.05.2022
https://www.kansakunnantila.fi/suomen-eduskunta-aanesti-nato-hakemuksen-puolesta-hakemus-toimitetaan-brysseliin/

Imagine a world where you could travel from one country to the next and find yourself in a wonderfully different place. Oh, the Diversity! Not a world in which every place might as well be in Clichy-sous-Bois, Reseda, Paraisopolis, Dharavi, or Rosengård.

I fear the Finland I knew and loved has gone forever. But talk about stupid! The US starts a punch-up between NATO and Russia, and Finland hurls itself into the fray on the wrong side! Voi-voi! (Alas!)

We’ve now seen nativist parties get a lot of support in elections in Finland, as well as in Italy with the great combination of Meloni and Salvini.

However, Finns are basically anti-Meds. Genetically, they’re the Europeans farthest from Italians and Spaniards.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2675054/

Only 10-20% of Finns aged 18-34 live with their parents, compared to around 70% in Italy, Croatia, and Serbia (Eurostat). Southern European countries have the lowest suicide rates on the continent, whereas the rate in Finland is much higher. Yet, Finland has been ranked the happiest country in the world somehow. If that title is deserved, then they probably shouldn’t mess things up with lots of immigration.

A wall for Russians but not for Somali rapefugees

no such luck, just more of the same. isn’t it amazing that every political race comes down to a dead heat, photo finish (no pun intended) but nothing ever changes, just vote a little harder the next time. the only difference is this guy wants to build a wall, no i’m not kidding, a wall to keep the russian horde out. i’ll bet he’s going to make the russians pay for it, lol.

https://sputniknews.com/20230404/who-is-petteri-orpo-the-man-set-to-be-findlands-new-pm-1109098149.html

There is no such thing as ‘the White Race’. There are many white races, however, we are not members of a single White Race. I’d like to read your explanation of survival. What precisely do you mean?

You can’t tell by looking!

My default assumption for politicians is the better they look, the less competent and reliable they are.

remember the woke platform is just a stalking horse for the zioneocon attack on the rest of the world. these ditsy millennial barbie dolls, know only what they’re told to know and that’s why they are put into positions of power in the first place. the real issue will be their approach to the war in ukraine and their willingness to stripmine their own economy, forcing their populous into severe austerity measures in order to comply with the demands of nato to feed the ponzi war machine.

Perhaps Mr. Honkanen would be so kind as to let us know where the various parties stand on NATO, anti-Russia sanctions, the war in Ukraine, etc. and the role, if any, these issues played in the election.

I’ve been wondering if this good news will have any effect on Finland’s just approved NATO membership. I’ve read that there is considerable opposition to Finland’s joining this bloody American-led, Russia-hating alliance. Is it too late to back out, assuming that the majority of Finns might be opposed to losing their long-held neutrality? No vote from the people was ever taken, after all.

Race mixing not racing : p

And a woman, again, and again, as ugly marine le Pen, and the unattractive Italian chick,… ( Yawn )

I TOO would like to be optimistic but since about 30 years it is always the same thing in the West : a “far right” party is elected, all the left and the jewry mobilize against the new Hitler, this party proposes only very very small measures ( why only LIMIT immigration and not throw out all the parasites? ), the leader of the party assures that she is not racist, but, but, but… And we never get out of the softest civic Nationalism.

Then strangely, the leader of the party promises to fight anti-Semitism, to defend our Allie and best friend Israel, to support NATO and Ukraine … all the crap that the electorate never voted for. If he doesn’t or not enough ( in general, the disobedient is a male ) or if he is really serious about immigration, a scandal or a strange accident happens to him and removes him from politics, for life. ( Hello Kurtz, hello Salvini, hello Duprat )

Then, again strangely, the economic records are catastrophic, in the following elections, as a result, the left comes back to power, immigration increases with a revenge… Wokeness runs wild… mix-racing is a divine commandment, abortion is a divine right, transgenderism a divine gift. ( Fucking white electorate, how to genocide it and get rid of it !)
Bis repetita, a new far right party appears, it is led by a charmless middle age housewife, she will fight Muslim antisemitism ! ( But never expels the Muslim parasites ) and support Israel and Ukraine !.. rinse, repeat …

Sanna Marin — the WEF formula, attractive, they look like they should be intelligent, but are actually low iq airheads. Like Trudeau.

I wish Finland all the best, but I see no realistic way for Finland to escape ZOG. They just joined NATO, their universities are already run by woke spawn, their “right wing” parties are mostly just the pointless cuckservatism.

I’m an optimist: I think, broadly speaking, the White Race will survive and – hopefully – triumph.

But some specific ethnies, like the Afrikaans or Swedes, on the other hand, I think, all in all, are doomed.

We see the monkey and enjoy his antics but where is the organ grinder?
Wait! He is right there in plain view if only you bother to look.

…
As I reported in 2017, Finland—once part of Sweden—has a sad and self-destructive habit of looking up to its more important neighbor and imitating everything it does.
…

The writer is mistaken here. It is not Sweden that Finns are aping, it’s the US of A. It only appears to be Sweden because we Finns are, shall we say, a bit retarded, and there is a delay in trends.
All monkeys in the happy Euro-circus obey the same director. That should be quite obvious to anyone who observes the present war in Ukraine. Americans seems to be aware of the fact but benighted denizens of the Euro-fief don’t twig what’s going on.

That has worked out brilliantly for America. No crime there. No lost cities

Lmao!! Our cities and nation are being lost for essentially one reason.. We have a ruling class of cunts that refuse to enforce the rule of law and are allowing their pets to run wild on the law abiding with for the most part little to no punishment. A law abiding and armed populace has nothing to do with what is happening today.

You can’t back up your bullshit in an honest conversation. You just want to fling some mud which isn’t a sign of a logical individual.

If you have an issue with my position on any topic then please be adult enough to state your side in a rational manner.

Can you do that or is all you’ve got is hearing yourself talk?

Yes billy boy – you are such a brilliant man, truly the shining light of intellectual brilliance.

Or a spoiled, pampered, arrogant white male traitor.

Absolutely.

That has worked out brilliantly for America. No crime there. No lost cities

No massive loss of territory to Hispanics.

White male self obsession, truly pathetic.

Rockaboutus knows that his entire identity and living is tied to government worship. Without government he would have to actually work at a productive enterprise instead of being a high paid enforcer.

People in his position must rationalize their antisocial behavior or else face what they actually do versus the fantasy they preach.

In my conversations with him,he never addresses the points I bring up but just blows smoke to avoid the embarrassment of even trying to reply honestly because he knows he can’t. Pressed, he quickly resorts to avoiding an honest dialog and starts building straw man arguments.

There is simply no avoiding the obvious fact that street policing is a monumental fraud that has no intention of denting criminal behavior but is the primary mechanism in it’s continuation.

Street cops actively suppress the only possible solution which is the citizens taking out the criminals as they present themselves and do it to guarantee no repeat offense is possible by making sure the perp is dead even if reloading their weapon might be required.

The entire system desperately needs criminals to scare the weak minded into supporting more of what hasn’t worked and has no intention of working.

Rockaboutus replies, “RUBBISH!”

From what I’ve seen of mobiks being “hazed” by their military slavemasters, grown women have very little to fear from Russian men. The goats, dogs and toddlers, OTOH …

Went to Finland in the ’80s. The only travel tips the Swedes and Danes were quite unanimously insistent on were “watch out, all Finns carry knives, all the time, and will stab you without blinking”.
Also “they’re usually drunk, so don’t argue”. Which I though was a bit rich, coming from a Dane.

Danes also have to put up with chib-packing Greenlanders, even when sober.

In the end I found the towns strangely familiar. Like the Glasgow of my youth, but mysteriously clean.

If opinion polls about the upcoming Finnish General Election on April 2 are correct, voters will likely install a new government, led by the center-right National Coalition Party. The anti-immigrant Finns Party, currently the second largest party in Parliament, is predicted to increase its vote share compared to the last election, but still to fall into third place …

It would be interesting to see some ‘If only X voted’ infographics about voting in Finland, e.g. what would the electoral landscape in Finland look like ‘If only men voted’ vs ‘If only women voted’?

Per the link below, turnout is consistently significantly higher among women than men:

Voter turnout in parliamentary elections in Finland from 1983 to 2019, by gender

A hearty Slavic rogering by the Ivans would quickly knock the negrophilia out of white Western liberal women.

Wrong. The characters as you call them are the result of their DNA.

And whitey doing nothing about it.

The problem with the White race is not racism but the lack of healthy racism/ tribalism, which is common in most non white populations.

I blame Christianity for this attitude–even whites who are no longer religious picked up the cultural artifacts.

“Turn the other cheek” is the road to suicide.

If you are not winning you are losing.

This is not part of “American gang style”, this is the result of the attempts of low IQ brachycephalic communist ideologists to ruin American-European civilization. Communism did not disappear with the collapse of the Soviet Union and the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact. Communists are very much alive and hell-bent on finishing what they started in 1917: A new communist world order, a one-world government ruling over dumb, docile humanoids a la Russia. The results of their sinister activity is on full display. Just go to your local grocery store and look for “biologically engineered ingredients” in your favorite brands.

NATO comes at the cost of darkies raping and murdering your helpless kids.

Yep, and after a while they’ll be like Japan and get fed up with U.S. military members raping their little girls and will stage small day-long protests and then shut up and fully submit to any and all wishes of their AZE master.

Mine munni, this is an insane bit ow analysis. As if there ever was any particularly Finnish or White Ideology in Finland. Or any ideology short of Kalevala: lets have a mill that mills us a lot of food.

Finland is a colony of Sweden, and always had been. So they would do as they are told by their Swedish masters. Has nothing to do with “White” at all, as the Finnish have not much of agency. We have not seen if the Finnish liked grooming or not, or put survival above ideology or not. They were never let to their own devices.

Somewhere to “hang around” in the biting Finnish winter, young “refugee” men idled there, as would Finnish teen and pre-teen girls who were too young to go to bars.

White people are truly Eloi, they do not have the natural suspicion other races have of foreign thuggish looking populations. The problem with the White race is not racism but the lack of healthy racism/ tribalism, which is common in most non white populations.
This also shows how hostile & destructive many non White populations are. Also to remember, Finland never had any colonial Empire, so all these claims that non White immigration is justified or non White hatred towards Whites in White lands is justified is all hogwash. Non Whites may be friendly to White tourists in their countries but become hostile if allowed to live in White countries for too long. Maybe they sense, White societies are weak and a primitive animal instinct then takes over to exploit this weakness.
In most non White societies, something like grooming would have brought about a voilent response fromt he local population and mass beating of many immigrant groups.
Also Non Whites put survival of tribe over anything else while Whites put some principle or ideology over survival. Non White putting survival of tribe over any ethics or morality is why non Whites will not go extinct.

(N-word) Arab Treaty Organization.

Well, it’s the same old story. Let in the trash from the Middle East and Africa and you will be robbed, raped, and murdered. The leaders of these countries need to be tried for treason.

Thanks Gott it is just blacks and not the vile Russians.

Calling out who pushes all this into Finland et al is antisemitic racism

I was actually going to make a joke, but shit. You’re going to lose your country.

Yet, Finland’s party girl prime minister wants war with Russia.

I sometimes refer to them as costumed two legged expendable mobile weapons platforms that do the gov’t bidding.

Video Link

The only thing the police protect is the status quo. They are agents of the state.

All these characters are a result of USA entering Middle East and Africa and destroying their nation. Consequently, the best thing a country can do is round up all these non-white law breakers and send them to Washington DC on a one-way ticket. Let the Master Race in DC solve the mess they created.

Now consider that it is the gov’t that prevents ordinary people from arming themselves for personal protection. It is gov’t that creates ready victims to exploit. Both the criminals roaming the streets as well as the criminals in gov’t are to blame for the problem.

NATO comes at the cost of darkies raping and murdering your helpless kids.

Barbara spector learner says it is the jewish plan to destroy the gentile nations, but this cannot be true, because to believe it is antiszetemitic so it mustn’t be true. Or something.

Kind of strange, isn’t it? You want to celebrate “Diversity” and “Multiculturalism” so what do you do? You bring in a horde of lawless Males (It’s always Military age males who are in the First Wave of the Immigrant invasion. Coincidence you say? LOL!!) and allow them to steal, beat and Rape!! And of you want to be really malevolent, you punish people who speak up–or try to protect themselves with items such as Pepper spray. And of course, you punish those who speak up against this “Wokeness” . People will suffer the consequences of the Hatemongers promoting this Immigrant Invasion UNTIL they demand changes.

Sweden is a country of thralls. The Vikings, the people of worth have all left since long ago, generally for English speaking countries. Those who stayed accepted to undergo a Soviet-style dictatorship and their use as laboratory animals by the powers that be in exchange for a very high standard of living by their government : in that respect they have proven they are devoid of all dignity and have fallen morally below Congo or below Pakistan : for instance if you want to hear some anti-globalist remarks in Sweden or some doubts about the benevolence of Judaism you have no choice but to be among the most detestable Muslim migrants. They used to have In particular they accepted to be subject before all other peoples to heavy-duty sex education. They also accepted, under the pretext of making schoolwork as easy as possible, under their teen-agers “progressive” pressure, the utter degradation of their language into something so different and so much like a creole language that they cannot read the letters their ancestors wrote before WWI. Anyway those who are into international level culture speak and write English only while what used to be their own culture and language has been for 75 years a safe space of political correctness like none other in the world : already in the 1960’s Ingmar Bergman could no longer support what his country had become. Their only complaint about the immigrants is that the latter don’t tolerate their radical feminism and their preference for sexual diversity over family life. They have no soul. They are well tended animals that care only for the high quality of their stables and their perfectly diet fodder. It is the Chinese cultural revolution with medications, jogging and yoga having been used instead of political violence.

Well, lets be honest. Swedes are only too willing to accept the inferiority of their race. So be it.

They’ll likely cut refugees but increase legal immigration like any other Christcuckservative gov.
I don’t see what’s there to clap about – Trump wanted to match the Canadian system.

Canada is 10-15 years from being majority non-white despite starting out at 95% in 1995.
Christianity doesn’t do race realism

Bottom line: Sweden as we know it is likely doomed. But the rich made a lot of money off of all that cheap labor, and can live in gated estates or leave to some nicer place when it all falls apart, so it’s all good.

The nation wreckers that are behind this agenda have already revealed their backup plan. Barbara Lerner Specter was sent to Sweden in the late 1990s for a specific goal, open up a Jewish center and use that as a front to push the Swedish government into opening their borders. They did just that and she now lives in Israel where it’s dominated by people just like her, with little of that diversity she claimed to love so much. Mission accomplished.

I don’t share this optimism. The demographic transformation has already passed the point of no return, and this new government is still a total ZOG puppet, the US destroyed a pipeline in Sweden and the government meekly says that is better not to talk about this. It is a pathetic land with pathetic people, this can only end one way.

One must note the phenomenon of demographic momentum. Even if a population has only two children per family, if the age distribution is skewed low – if most people in a population are below or just at the level of reproduction – then the population will roughly double or triple before stabilizing.

So 1.6 kids/family with a median age of over 40 for the native Swedes, and 2.6 kids/family with a median age of perhaps 16 (that’s what’s current for Somalia) for the recent immigrants, in combination that’s a much bigger difference than just 1.6 compared to 2.6. You also need to factor in the age at which people have kids: you get a faster growth rate when people start having kids at 14 than at 24.

Bottom line: Sweden as we know it is likely doomed. But the rich made a lot of money off of all that cheap labor, and can live in gated estates or leave to some nicer place when it all falls apart, so it’s all good.

“It was odd that all of the Muslims flooded West towards Europe and none went south to Israel or even towards Saudi Arabia”

Not really. Both the Israelis and the Saudis will, if necessary, shoot illegal aliens dead at the border.

And somehow all those wealthy Americans insisting that it’s immoral to defend your own border, has no problem with this.

“Mass deportation of those who are not of the same ethnic stock that was present in 1965 is the only way to prevent it at this point in the long term. ”
Without some such policy, all the talk is just hot air.

Too many pale, female faces in that picture. You will not get a long-term solution with them in power, or anywhere near it. White women in the United States have voted for the policies that have destroyed the lives of millions of American fathers and men, and which have turned US cities into unlivable third world dumps. What seems to escape the Swedes is that feminism is a sister to cultural marxism and enables the latter; it also enables political correctness and replacement immigration policies. A white woman of a certain social class would rather virtue signal than protect her own society, probably because she did so little to build it. No society in history that gave power to women has ever survived for long, let alone thrived. I am not talking about giving power to individual women, but giving power and privilege to women as a class or group. Sweden is too far gone now, so watch all of the white women take up with Arabs.

It was odd that all of the Muslims flooded West towards Europe and none went south to Israel or even towards Saudi Arabia. I suspect that there are / were Jewish NGO groups on the ground in Syria who were operating covertly and encouraging them to head towards Germany and Sweden in particular. Too believe that it was just a random coincidence is like saying there is nice land for sale on Mars.

Regardless, Sweden has a bigger problem than it had prior to the Muslim rapefugee invasion and it has a big problem then already. Sweden was nearly 100% ethnic Swedish as recently as 1965, with the tiny minorities being entirely other Nordics from Norway, Finland, and Denmark. Their country, culture, and people are bordering on extinction whether they realize it or not.

Mass deportation of those who are not of the same ethnic stock that was present in 1965 is the only way to prevent it at this point in the long term.

If anything, Swedish women deserve even worse. Pray that they get it.

IMO, in many locales, human faced feminism has been usurped by female psychopath dominated feminism, following its own twisted goals. Self defeatingly many feminists admire the female psychopath’s non-emotionality and hard-shelled qualities. Pathwhisperer dot info (delisted by Bing)

Harri Honkanen: “Given that the government has declared itself officially “feminist,” one would think that women would legally be permitted to protect themselves.”

Could be that Sweden isn’t yet feminist enough. Luckily though, there’s a technological solution. Here’s my modest proposal: The problem of imported men “raping” Swedish women can easily and equitably be solved by legally mandating that all Swedish men wear a shock collar, and a remote control able to trigger the collar given to every Swedish woman. At the press of a button, the collar would deliver an excruciatingly painful and disabling, though sub-lethal shock. For a truly feminist government and society, any male behavior objectionable to women should rightly be declared illegal and ought to be punished with the full force of the law. Surely, in any such society, men shouldn’t be allowed to do anything displeasing to a woman.

After implementing this plan, the only “rapes” that would take place would be the ones women wanted and invited — which, let’s face it, is probably the majority of them anyway.

White people have to live in fear at talking about the racial problems in the West. If someone mentions race or implicitly suggests it, you’ll always have some idiotic, self-righteous leftist to shut it down. “Racist”, “Nazi”, “Fascist” they shout to silence you. They have no legitimate, rational arguments to the problem and solution.
This woman is a good example of what I mean…
https://twitter.com/DrRJKavanagh/status/1386469583045992449

1-2 hard kicks in the balls as a lead move probably helps with a choke hold for the bikini tag team…

I’m skeptical of the authenticity of the photo. I remember a video in which three Swedish policewomen could not subdue and arrest a lone male suspect.

Really good question! I’m no anthropologist, but nothing like what we’re seeing take place in western Europe comes to my mind. Even the South African Xhosa cattle-killing cult and the North American Indian ghost dance movement were in response to confrontation by a technologically and sociologically more advanced civilization. But the western european cult of individualism may itself by unique in human history, so this may be the first time a civilization decided to replace itself and become extinct.

Reducing street cop numbers by any means should be the goal of every citizen.

I think you go too far. I would say that the goal of every citizen should be confined to reducing the number of street cops who don’t look like the cop in the bikini.

Justin Trudeau, who models himself as the New Cosmopolitan Feminist Man, more Swedish than a Swede, is against anyone owning a firearm for self-defense.

In his utopian vision of post-national globalism, victims are a good thing. Rapes, murders, and mayhem are political capital. The more crime you have, the more power the state can accrue unto itself, and the more liberty it can take away.

Defenseless citizens ‘need’ more surveillance and more laws, which end up being directed at them.

In short, Anarcho-Tyranny is the Globalist way.

Overall, a very informative article. Thanks, Curmudgeon.

One slanderous sentence, however, truly grates:

Géza Thinsz immigrated from Hungary in 1956 (the same year as the massive persecution of Jews started which would have the effect that within a few decades half of Hungary’s Jews had fled the country) …

Jews weren’t persecuted in Hungary; they were noticed. Jews really hate being noticed. When the Hungarians declined to stop noticing and Moscow, having decided that a repetition of 1956 was not to its advantage, elected to look the other way, many Jews left in a huff.

Crime Mapping Los Angeles
https://www.crimemapping.com/map/ca/losangeles

Used to be placed in a room and VIOLENTLY beat as a child.

Cultivated an EXTREMELY high threshold for pain, and ZERO patience for abuse.

Now carry a flip-knife, and sometimes pepper-spray at night.

Have an arsenal of hibernating handguns.

Women need to carry something, preferably lethal.

It’s the law, of a heartless asphalt jungle.

Blame Olaf Palme for believing the usual suspects.
https://redice.tv/news/how-and-why-sweden-became-multicultural

A correction.

Every woman is strong enough to pick up pepper spray, a knife or even a gun. These devices aren’t very heavy. Every man or woman should know that their right of self defense is a natural right that no one can diminish. That the legal system attempts to subordinate a natural right to a law made up by the political class only shows that the gov’t has lost its legitimacy.

The ratio of citizens to the scum in gov’t always favors the citizenry in numbers. The people need to use their strength in numbers to teach the gov’t stooges on the front line, the street cops, that they will pay a heavy price for enforcing insane laws. The fewer street cops there are, the better for the citizenry. Reducing street cop numbers by any means should be the goal of every citizen. Defund street cops.

Niche Porn sort of image. Park Wrestling.

almost half of women in Örebro, for example, avoid going out in the evening because they fear being raped

And this is the entire point of the rapes. They are not (just) raping for the sake of it, they are doing it in order to impose shariah law. Bismillah.

Are there any instances in human history where a society has committed suicide like the west is doing before our eyes?

A large part of the problem seems to be the promiscuous handing out of welfare to anyone and everyone.

Your Milton-Friedman-esque bleating is fifty years out of date, and it was bullshit back then, too.

Economic migrants (browns blacks and yellows) are transported by Jews and other capitalists/communists, and the migrants’ destruction of the host civilizations is a happy side effect for these leaders who like to gain power through chaos and divide-and-conquer. White patriarchy (i.e. western civ) is their eternal enemy.

The only book in English that covers WWII from a detailed Finnish perspective is this one published in 1952: Heroic Finland by by David Hinshaw. Other sources are a bad joke as many poorly informed comments above demonstrate.

Available used at amazon or read for free online:

https://archive.org/details/heroicfinland008577mbp

Hey Archimedes,

I’m not sure why your friend converted, but most of the converts I know (now a days, the motivation was slightly different in the 90’s and pre-9/11) are basically opting out of materialist post-modernism. The more we get criticized for not getting on board with the program, the more certain people are attracted to the message*.

Lately, I’m even starting to see more tattooed White guys with those huge earring things starting to sign up.

Peace.

*Note: On the flip side, we are losing Muslims to materialist post-modernism – and not an insignificant number either. And they usually don’t like the fact that Islam isn’t down with feminism and gay pride – well, what can you do?

But others like it – we just had a person convert at the Friday prayer last week.

To all commentators and Talha:

I’m a millennial and know someone who converted to Islam. It definitely does happen, probably with a higher frequency than most may think.

My thoughts exactly on this issue. See my first post up thread.

https://www.unz.com/article/finland-at-100-frozen-by-fear-dragged-to-a-multicultural-grave/#comment-2136412

https://www.unz.com/article/finland-at-100-frozen-by-fear-dragged-to-a-multicultural-grave/#comment-2137633

The “good people” with no backbone will eventually look to Russia who will be more than happy to clean up their mess. Every thing has its price. Every nation always comes to their manufactured precipice.

Hard times create great men, great men create great nations, great nations breed weaker men during good times, weaker men create weak nations, weak nations fall creating hard times. Hard times create great men…….Rise and Repeat forever it seems.

Did they also return when there was no work?

The first will be used to house the native population, sort of reserves for the original habitants, where they would continue to exist for some time in ever dwindling numbers, which in the final stages it will turn kind of into a zoo, where the new comers can come and look at the exotic species nearing extinction.

Suicide and Muslims is very bad combination. They do not like to do it alone. Let them suicide themselves in Muslim ways in their own countries.

I see that you’ve given up on trying to formulate any sort of remotely coherent argument, or really, making any sense at all.

Suicide and Muslims is very bad combination. They do not like to do it alone. Let them suicide themselves in Muslim ways in their own countries.

FWIW, as you seem to be European and familiar with Europe, you probably know that Finland will never have a substantial portion of immigrants, any more than Nepal will

Well, people who really are refugees from a war zone might not be too picky and would go anywhere that would take them. However, another important fact is that Finland is in the EU and part of the Schengen zone, which allows free movement. Once anybody got residency in Finland, he is free to move to any other Schengen zone country. So, it seems to me that very many people who are from the Middle East or Africa or wherever would find Finland to be a very cold, inhospitable place and move somewhere further south once they could.

That all seems like common sense, though I haven’t seen any hard statistics on this. What does seem pretty clear is that Finland is not really being flooded with Muslims or any other sort of immigration. The largest single non-European group in Finland are the Somali community, which is about 17,000 people apparently. Unless somebody is numerically illiterate, they should immediately see that that is pretty minor. So I’m quite certain that this article is basically fraudulent.

What is interesting is that there is clearly some propaganda agenda here, where whatever political faction wants to plant the idea in people’s minds that Finland, of all places, is being overrun by Muslims or whatever, when this is clearly not so. What is their agenda? That seems like the interesting question. Debating whether Finland really is full of Muslims strikes me as a waste of time. Obviously, it just isn’t.

That’s because Jews believe anger is healthy and good,

Well, to be completely fair, there is some truth to your observations about the Judaeic culture or temperament. However, in the context, I cannot see it as all that relevant.

With just about anybody of any ethnic group, surely if you start with this nonsense about how it’s part of that group’s culture to copulate with animals or grope women in public places and just all the calumnies that Muslims are subjected to, just about anybody would finally get openly pissed off. Yet Talha never does.

And then there is the question of all these obvious false flags. They ran one this summer near where I live, in Barcelona. It’s such a completely shoddy stitch-up and obviously the Arab ethnic kids they framed as terrorists were just patsies, as usual. Same old, same old. But anyway, I have a friend who knows a lot of people, and in particular, knows people in the Arab community. He tells me, and I believe him, that in the Arab community here, nobody believes this story. I mean, NOBODY.

Still, what happens is that the self-appointed community leaders all accept (in public, anyway) the official story and do this whole Uncle Talha hand-wringing lickspittle number, marching and condemning “radical Islamic terrorism”. “We good Muzzies, yessah…” They do this, almost certainly, in the full knowledge that these kids (all conveniently dead) didn’t do anything and were framed.

Now, my friend told me that the younger people in the community are completely incensed at the older people for going along with this story. By and large, they are just seething. The older people, on the other hand, I guess they decide to go along with this whole story because they figure that this is just some indignity that they have to put up with to continue with their lives here.

Actually, I understand why they do what they do. This appalling Talha character, with his lickspittle mentality, is pretty disgusting. But I actually do kinda understand it, this whole impossible position that Muslims living in the West are put in. I do understand it but it’s pretty horrendous. This whole Omar Sharif sweet Muzzie synthetic character that he presents… it’s pretty loathsome really, at least to me.

What I find especially galling about the whole Uncle Talha shtick is the way he represents that this craven, sniveling cowardice is somehow the result of his higher spiritual attainment — or whatever bullshit. That is pretty hard to take.

Hey Daniel Chieh,

The land itself kills people.

Yeah – it’s actually a fairly good defense strategy – hole up in a land that nobody really cares to fight for. You win…while you lose…

Peace.

FWIW, as you seem to be European and familiar with Europe, you probably know that Finland will never have a substantial portion of immigrants, any more than Nepal will. The land itself kills people. Between the deathly cold and the darkness, it has one of the highest suicide rates in the world and the immigrants have chosen to go to Sweden instead.

Yes, I just quoted only a fragment of the sentence you wrote but, you see, the part “it’s not that” is a lie, a dissimulation.

Me: I looked at the statistics and there are hardly any Muslims in Finland.

You (and others): Well, you obviously want mass immigration of Muslims into FInland.

Me: Huh? When did I say that? I just said that I looked into it and there are very few Muslims in Finland. I never expressed any view about how many Muslims should be in Finland.

You: You’re dissimulating. You want Finland to be full of Muslims blah blah.

Well, look at it this way, utu. Before a few days ago, when this fraudulent article came out, I had no idea how many Muslims there were in Finland. I just didn’t know.

Why did I not know?

Simple, obvious answer: I didn’t really care. It’s easy to look up, but I never did because I never cared about the question. So, just on the face of it, doesn’t that suggest that I’m basically being honest, i.e. I don’t actually really care very much how many Muslims there are in Finland.

But anyway, this is an example of the extreme mental squalor in which somebody like you operates. You do not possess the most basic elements of critical thinking, one of which is the distinction between a positive, or descriptive statement, on the one hand, and a normative statement on the other.

To say there are not very many Muslims in Finland is simply a positive/descriptive statement. There are some but it’s comparable to the number of black people in Maine or something like that. It’s something like 50,000 Muslims in a country with over 5 million people.

Note that this is a statement about Finland. There are other places in Europe where one could say there are a lot of Muslims. I was in Marseilles this summer with Linh Dinh. Marseilles is about 20% Muslim according to the official statistics. I could imagine saying that Marseilles is full of Muslims i.e. there are an awful lot of Muslims in Marseilles. To me, that is a factual statement. Now, somebody could interpret that as me saying there are far too many Muslims in Marseilles, i.e. there should be fewer, which would be a normative statement. But in that instnace, I didn’t say that either. I simply said there are a lot of Muslims in Marseilles.

But when you can’t even distinguish between a descriptive/positive statement and a normative statement and just start talking as if one kind of statement is the other, then you can’t really have a serious conversation. Of course, it’s just a form of straw-manning, it’s just putting words in somebody else’s mouth, but it’s of some interest to see how you guys just constantly resort to the same sophomoric debating tricks. And it’s just so masturbatory. Why do you even bother, utu? There are such better ways of spending your time. I hear there are bestiality brothels sprouting up all over the place. Why don’t you go copulate with a pony?

Hey OCF,

Talha, why are you in the West

If my father had moved us to Guatemala or China, I would be there instead. Six year old boys don’t make those decisions.

As far as staying on in the West; my wife is a convert, she feels she has a right as anyone else to be here. We’ve talked about moving to a Muslim land, but that decision is pending how our kids are able to keep their religious identity and how the environment turns out. If my spiritual teachers stick it out, likely I will. They have told us that we should make sure our intention to be in the West (or any other non-Muslim land) is to invite people to the faith and do our part to uplift society – sticking around for material gain is not a good enough reason to put your faith in jeopardy.

if you have such a low opinion of the West and its people

On the contrary, I have a high opinion of them. As I said; “If they are good people and treat us well in their lands, then I’m grateful and feel blessed and their reward is with God”. And we are treated very well in the West.

Now there are some people who hate us – they want us dead or gone and will do anything to achieve that. So? What’re we going to do? Cry about it or just keep doing what we’re supposed to be doing? This is all part of the way this works – we’ve already been told about how the game goes:
“Do men think that they will be left alone upon saying, ‘We believe’, and that they will not be tested? We have certainly tried those before them, and Allah will surely make evident those who are truthful, and He will surely make evident the false.” (29:2-3)

“You will surely be tested in your possessions and in yourselves. And you will surely hear from those who were given the Scripture before you and from those who associate others with Allah much abuse. But if you are patient and fear Allah – indeed that will be a determining factor in all affairs.” (3:186)

Like I said – go big or go home – no whining.

And I know enough about Western history to know what can happen in times of crisis and mass hysteria. We could easily be blamed for all ills (true, false, whatever) and set upon.

So – do I think we will all be rounded up and killed or shipped out? No – I have a better opinion about the people of the West than that.

Would I be surprised if it happens? No – because I don’t have any expectations.

One must understand the difference between “hopes” and “expectations”.

But I have strong expectations from Muslims in the West to behave themselves and be of benefit to their host societies.

In many ways, our cultures and nations have been hollowed out to make you comfortable.

I understand that – right now the culture of the West is in decline on multiple fronts – the population cannot sustain itself. Something has gone seriously wrong – the indiscriminate mass immigration policies are part of that; this started happening before we arrived. So – what is to be done about it? Something needs to change, right? Islam offers a game plan to fix things, it might not be the game plan some people like and that’s fine. But others like it – we just had a person convert at the Friday prayer last week. Either way, pick a game plan and roll with it because time is of the essence.

As far as what the people of the West are capable of…you may surprise us all:

Video Link

Peace.

I’m advocating that Finland should be full of Muslims

I am glad you have finally admitted it. Yes, I just quoted only a fragment of the sentence you wrote but, you see, the part “it’s not that” is a lie, a dissimulation.

Your interest in false flag events of which you wrote in your first article here does not stem from a genuine curiosity on you part. You are a crusader against alleged libel and alleged defamation of Muslims in general. You, Jonathan Revusky, are an army of one, a single man Muslim ADL. You do not care about the truth. You are unable to be objective and even handed. Any negative statement about Muslims gets you going to the point you become irrational. You do not care about Finns and you hate those Finns who do not want Muslims in their country. You do not care that 9/11 was a false flag and you are not outraged that possibly American government perpetrated it. All you care is to make a point that Muslims are exonerated. That’s why you write about false flags.

It’s actually one of the most reliable papers in the country.

Look, I haven’t lived in the States for many years. For all I know, the National Enquirer is now a serious, reliable news source. My reference to it was based on its reputation from twenty or even thirty years ago.

My point really has nothing to do with the National Enquirer specifically. The point is that the source for all these ridiculous hoax stories about Muslim refugees are just tabloid papers like the Sun in England, that nobody with a clue thinks of as reliable news sources.

But even aside from yellow journalism like that, there is just so much total bullshit. Like, this article up top. Finland is being overrun by the Muslims. Anybody can look it up and see that there are very few Muslims in Finland. About 50,000 or so. That seems to just be a hard fact.

The provincia in Spain where I live, Tarragona province, apparently has about 65,000 Muslims and there are far fewer than one million people in Tarragona province, as compared to FInlandś population of over 5 million. And even then, in my area, the Muslims comprise less than 10% of the population.

And again, it’s not that I’m advocating that Finland should be full of Muslims. I’m really pretty indifferent to the whole question. It’s just that, factually, there are VERY FEW Muslims in Finland. So the article is a fraud. Finland is obviously NOT being overrun by Muslims any more than German or Swedish girls are being raped right, left, and center by Muslims. These things are just hoaxes.

According to Russia Today it actually happened.

Well, if RT reports that it happened, then it must have happened, eh?

Let me guess. They were there. They were already set up there in the children’s zoo with cameras pointing in the right direction to “document the event”! LOL.

Utu, have you never noticed that the people behind the propaganda often seem to be poking around at the outer limits of what even the most ardent shit eaters are willing to believe. They’re constantly testing the limits. That’s how you calibrate your propaganda machinery.

Bestiality brothels are spreading through Germany faster than ever

Uhhh, utu, I know it is probably counter to your normal modus operandi, but maybe you should think about this a bit.

Suppose you are an entrepreneur looking to open a business. You do a market study and you realize that in your area there are enough pizzerias and enough fitness clubs, but you realize that there aren’t enough “bestiality brothels” to meet the demand from the growing population of zoophiles out there.

So… you open your bestiality brothel somewhere and…. how do you find your customers? Do you openly advertise? Or is it by word of mouth?

Or, from another point of view, how do the customers find this fine business establishment? Suppose that, one day, you have a sudden desire to screw a pony, and so you figured that for some competitive price, you could go out to a bestiality brothel and indulge yourself. So you look up the nearest bestiality brothel”, a bunch come up within a certain radius of where you are. Some are higher rated on Tripadvisor than others obviously. (Doubtless equine pussy varies in quality just like human pussy…)

Are you able to think about this for, I dunno, five minutes, without realizing the utter absurdity of all this? Or, in other words, are you a completely incurable shit eater or what?

I mean, for example, right here on this page, you have some degenerate swine spreading this story that a Muslim raped a pony in a children’s zoo, and… well, I get angry at this. I can only imagine how angry I would be if I were a Muslim, yet you seem completely unconcerned.

According to Russia Today it actually happened.
https://www.rt.com/news/409721-man-sex-pony-berlin/

On the other hand is it really a big deal?

http://www.health24.com/Sex/Sexual-diversity/Bestiality-is-much-much-more-common-than-you-think-20150218
The study, which took place in Brazil and was published in the Journal of Sexual Medicine, found a 34% prevalence of bestiality amongst men, most of whom were from rural backgrounds, as well as determining that it was a risk factor for penile cancer.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Bestiality_and_Germany
Bestiality brothels are spreading through Germany faster than ever thanks to a law that makes animal porn illegal but sex with animals legal, a livestock protection officer has warned.

10 Nationalities Who Fornicate With Animals
https://www.therichest.com/rich-list/most-shocking/10-nationalities-who-fornicate-with-animals/

Madeleine Martin told the Frankfurter Rundschau that current laws were not protecting animals from predatory zoophiles who are increasingly able to turn to bestiality as a ‘lifestyle choice’.

She highlighted one case where a farmer in the Gross-Gerau region of southwest Germany, noticed his once friendly flock of sheep were beginning to shy away from human contact….

10 Nationalities Who Fornicate With Animals
https://www.therichest.com/rich-list/most-shocking/10-nationalities-who-fornicate-with-animals/

Talha, why are you in the West if you have such a low opinion of the West and its people?

Islam isn’t my cup of tea, and I word never want to live is a Muslim country. I’d like normalized and respectful relations, but I have no way of influencing what goes on at that level.

One thing that many immigrants in the West don’t seem to understand is that much of what they like about mass media, throw away culture and so-called modernity is artificial. In many ways, our cultures and nations have been hollowed out to make you comfortable. You don’t know what it was like before you came, or what was lost. Just like many Latinos can’t imagine how much nicer, freer, more civil, etc. things were before they got here, and what a negative impact their presence represents.

Better you’re on a computer fighting with people you can’t reach than roaming around town in your out of control aggressive state physically attacking people.

Read much? I said nothing—no thing—about Russia.

Swine do not wallow around in their own excrement…

You’re probably right. Calling you and the other assholes here “swine” is surely quite unfair to pigs.

That’s because Jews believe anger is healthy and good, but most other traditions think anger needs to be overcome. Especially self-interested anger.

Like most Jews, it’s obvious you cultivate and nurture your anger. But instead of encouraging others to be angry, why not try and raise yourself to a higher level?

Being “fully human” doesn’t have to mean being in thrall to our baser biological urges. It’s possible to rise to a higher level and not be angry when others insult us.

I think when Jews finally undersrand this, they’ll take the first step towards healing.