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 All / By Steven Yates
    I moved to Santiago, Chile during the Obama years: 2012, to be exact. I believed, as did many others, that the real financial reckoning was still to come, that race relations would worsen (bullseye there and then some!!), and that other countries were better prospects as havens for individual freedoms than a U.S. in decline....
  • @brabantian
    Those of us who read financial news sites, remember the way that 'Sovereign Man' advisor Simon Black noted above, and others, used to pump for Chile on ZeroHedge a great move-away-to-paradise locale ... Puerto Rico now still sometimes touted as a similar 'smart destination', as well as Mexico

    When the fact is that, in Latin America, the wheel of history often turns quickly

    Regarding the Chilean pension system implemented under the rule of Pinochet 1973-90, some of the core idea was positive, that of giving workers the feeling of investment in the companies for which they worked, to discourage the endless economy-wrecking impulse toward strikes and labour actions which used to so afflict many countries

    But it seems the Chilean system foundered over, first of all, never having adequately simplified a system with too many 'options' and 'plans', amongst which workers really had no informed capability to choose -

    And secondly, old-fashioned bureaucracy and corruption, siphoning off for 'administration' the funds which should have gone to workers ... obviously it's too late to fix it all now

    Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain, @Levtraro, @HbutnotG

    “…the wheel of history turns quickly..” Yup. Well put. In S. America, so true! Here today, gone tomorrow. I’ve only read generalized history of S. America but it is very clear that nothing lasts for very long and the individual is 100% powerless. The American Boomer generation could never stomach it. It’s a cultural thing – everybody down there thinks it’s normal.

    Puerto Rico has now become the go to place, but my gosh! have these people ever lived among Puerto Ricans? They’ll steal anything that isn’t bolted down. It’s in the DNA. (I’m not talking about Rhode Islanders…I mean the real thing.)

    Mexico is a dangerous place; and even worse you are never likely to know when you are a target. Areas of So. Cal. now have the critical mass of Mexicans and everybody who can click two nickels together has found it necessary to turn their house into a camera-laden prison wall. It has evolved here (Palm Desert) in just 10 years. Palm Springs is now an Iglewood.

  • Getting rid of Friedman-Pinochetism is upsetting you?

  • @789
    @Malla

    If you don't have the text of "Fourth floor" I can e-mail it to you.
    There was also the Congressional hearing, Ambassador Smith testified and said the same thing

    Stanley Montieth

    There is also a Mexican (?) guy who wrote a whole book on Castro the CIA asset.

    Replies: @gatobart, @Malla

    Thanks. Sorry for my late response, was off Unz (erratic) for some time. Can you please email it to [email protected]. Thanks again.

  • @Capitao Nascimento
    @Malla

    You wanna hear the most fun part of it all? The main star Wagner Moura, and the movie director, Jose Padilha, are both woke leftists. They made the movie to show how the police is evil and dangerous, they wanted people to antagonize the police upon watching the movie. What happened? The vast majority of the Brazilian public saw it, absolutely loved it, and cheered on the main character's actions. Captain Nascimento was supposed to be seen as the bad guy, people saw him as a hero.

    Moura even whined afterwards about how Scandinavians would never see such a violent police officer as a hero. Then the sequel (Tropa de Elite 2) amped up the propaganda, bringing on leftists militants and politicians into the mix to make it clear that they wanted you to hate the police.

    Replies: @Malla

    LOL that is funny. Ended up making a good movie though.

  • @Malla
    @Ray Caruso

    Speaking of Brazil, there is an awesome Brazilian movie I would recommend. One of the most anti-woke movie you could ever see. The reality of ruthless drug traffickers in flavelas, police corruption, leftist woke naive middle class naive Brazilian college students who do not understand how the world works brainwashed by their Marxist professors and listening to songs like "F..k the Police'. Two of those Brazilian kids doing social service in the flavelas get brutally killed by gangsters. This move could destroy dumb childish Wokes and leftards as it shows raw reality. BLM destroyer.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9UbCmI_VSM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb-rUfBTQ1g

    ELITE SQUAD (TROPA DE ELITE) Trailers
    ELITE SQUAD (TROPA DE ELITE) is about BOPE, the elite police squads on Rio and it is an intense and astonishing look at Rio de Janeiro's notorious favelas, the volatile slums on the edge of the city. The film is set in 1997 and presents an intimate look at the city's vast and intricate web of corruption.

    Drug trafficking militias have virtual control within the favelas while the police run their criminal enterprises outside. The elite BOPE force (State Police Special Operations Battalion) combats drug trafficking --keeping order has its price though and their actions make it difficult to distinguish right from wrong and justice from revenge.

    BOPE Captain Nascimento (Wagner Moura) is facing a crisis: in addition to the pressures of fighting within war zones, the Captain must find and train his own replacement so he can escape the day to day violence and be close to his wife who is about to give birth to their first child.

    Two of the force's newest recruits, Neto (Caio Junqueira) and Matias (André Ramiro), are childhood friends: one is quick on the trigger to maintain order and the other refuses to compromise his ideals. Together they are the perfect replacement. Alone they may not have what it takes to survive.

    You might get the movie free on youtube with English subtitles.

    Replies: @Ray Caruso, @Capitao Nascimento

    You wanna hear the most fun part of it all? The main star Wagner Moura, and the movie director, Jose Padilha, are both woke leftists. They made the movie to show how the police is evil and dangerous, they wanted people to antagonize the police upon watching the movie. What happened? The vast majority of the Brazilian public saw it, absolutely loved it, and cheered on the main character’s actions. Captain Nascimento was supposed to be seen as the bad guy, people saw him as a hero.

    Moura even whined afterwards about how Scandinavians would never see such a violent police officer as a hero. Then the sequel (Tropa de Elite 2) amped up the propaganda, bringing on leftists militants and politicians into the mix to make it clear that they wanted you to hate the police.

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    • Replies: @Malla
    @Capitao Nascimento

    LOL that is funny. Ended up making a good movie though.

  • @Commentator Mike
    @Vojkan

    Why would Russia, and countries in Eastern Europe and the Balkans, which all face severe demographic problems of declining population numbers, take up ineffective measures and promote vaccination if it kills people in numbers greater than what is statistically acceptable to fight a deadly disease like Covid-19? OK, I suppose you could say why did they allow this demographic problem to develop in the first place if they cared about their nations. But they all have professional health services and experts capable of investigating the Covid-19 problem without having to blindly follow orders from the WHO and the bosses of the NWO.

    I find that the anti-vaxxers are not being balanced in their presentations and are focusing only on some of the most sensationalist and fear inducing aspects, often speculative. I'm neither satisfied with the way the official media and the government are propagating their views but if you listen to some of the official health experts they tend to present a more balanced exposition than the anti-vaxxers. I do appreciate dissidents like C.J. Hopkins, David Icke and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. as I think it's important to always sound out warnings and try to prevent the drive towards totalitarian absolutism in society but I don't necessarily have to agree with all their views.

    So if one is opposed to all these official impositions and the vaccines what should one do? Obviously spitting in the face or beating up those who wear masks or heckling people waiting for their vaccine shots is both rude and ineffective, as well as criminal. It is up to those who are actually in positions to do something about it to do so, the experts and government officials, or the people to rise in a massive tidal wave against them and replace them with some other ones who would perhaps be more truthful and responsible. Individuals complaining or insulting others on the Internet is not going to do it. If anything, these white anti-vaxxer dissidents should learn from those "more capable" people (he, he) such as the Nigerians and really mount an effective campaign that could resolve the issue to their satisfaction, based on a true and balanced exposition of all the scientific evidence.

    The Polio Vaccine Boycott in Northern Nigeria


    In northern Nigeria in 2003, the political and religious leaders of Kano, Zamfara, and Kaduna states brought the immunization campaign to a halt by calling on parents not to allow their children to be immunized. These leaders argued that the vaccine could be contaminated with anti-fertility agents (estradiol hormone), HIV, and cancerous agents...

    In response to public outcry about the polio vaccine, the Nigerian federal government set up a technical committee on October 29, 2003 to assess the safety of the polio vaccine, sending samples of the vaccine for laboratory tests abroad. The committee's report, however, was rejected by the SCSN, which alleged that the Muslim community was not properly represented on the committee.

    In response to this allegation, the federal government appointed another technical committee, which included selected members of the Muslim group Jama'atu Nasril Islam, to further reconfirm the safety of the vaccine. But the SCSN again rejected the nominees, asking for the inclusion of its own nominees...

    This impasse was eventually resolved in July 2004 through dialogue, with religious leaders playing a significant role in the process. The federal government had invited political and religious leaders to a series of meetings in order to find a solution to the impasse. The WHO and UNICEF also played a role in breaking the deadlock. These meetings led to a consensus in February 2004 to accept the SCSN's demand to test the vaccine independently in a Muslim country.
     
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1831725/

    It's embarrassing to see that these African Muslims are better organised and more effective in their protests than these supposedly superior White dissidents and right wingers.

    Replies: @Vojkan

    Russia is an independent country and has its own vaccine. I can’t speak of other countries in Eastern Europe or the Balkans as I don’t have enough information or interest to form an opinion.
    As for Serbia, there has been an effort to turn it into a normal country after the fall of Milošević but it was reversed after current president Vučić rose to power in 2012. He has turned the country into a shithole and has had the support of the West to do so but with regards to vaccines, it’s people’s choice. You can choose which vaccine you’ll take between the Russian, Chinese or Western made, or you can choose to take none, so protesting vaccination isn’t Serbs’ current top priority.
    Anyway, the reluctance to be injected untested concoctions doesn’t necessarily translate into an anti-vaxx stance. It is not the principle of vaccination per se that is a problem; I actually consider that if the risk of being exposed to a pathogen that is likely to cause a mortal or debilitating disease is non-negligible in the period for which a vaccine provides a protection, then teaching the organism to react to such pathogens is the right thing to do. Now, that’s the principle. The problem is that the reality of vaccination isn’t made to fulfil the principle.

  • @789
    @Malla

    If you don't have the text of "Fourth floor" I can e-mail it to you.
    There was also the Congressional hearing, Ambassador Smith testified and said the same thing

    Stanley Montieth

    There is also a Mexican (?) guy who wrote a whole book on Castro the CIA asset.

    Replies: @gatobart, @Malla

    “There is also a Mexican (?) guy who wrote a whole book on Castro the CIA asset”.

    Wasn’t that by any chance the same guy who wrote a book about who had put the bomp in the bomp bah bomp bah bomp and the ram in the rama lama ding dong…?

  • @HbutnotG
    @Exile

    Hmmm.

    For decades I was under the impression that "libertarian" simply meant pro-small government, there strictly to design a catchy flag, and protect the citizens and its boundaries, and little else.

    Looks like yet another term that has undergone re-definition.

    Looks too, like people have regressed. Nosey, "your business is my business" baloney. That may well be the reason for the re-definition of libertarian.

    Replies: @789

    Libertarians were always for unlimited enterprise (which can only lead to monopoly); for open borders; for free-trade.

    What can we expect from a Lisa Rosenbaum who was a slut home-wrecker who chased after other people’s husbands. Ron Paul named his son after this upstanding being who invented a cult.

  • @Malla
    @Malla


    Including bringing Castro to power.
     
    An interview with Mr. Earl T. Smith, American Ambassador to Cuba in between 1957 and 1959.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pINcfBNZQiA
    US Government Brought Fidel Castro to Power (Full Documentary)

    A rare detailed account of the Communist takeover of Cuba and America’s role in Fidel Castro’s dictatorship. Former US Ambassador to Cuba, Earl T. Smith is interviewed and reveals the State Department’s involvement in violation of neutrality laws, supporting a known communist with a documented history of violent criminal behavior, and committing high treason by deliberately aiding an enemy of the United States and concealing a clear and imminent threat to our national security. This conspiracy against the citizens of Cuba has cost thousands of lives, devastated families, and has left the dispossessed Cubans stateless and destitute. It is a deliberate case of economic and cultural genocide that merits investigation and restitution. Please watch, share and expose. Smith also details this collusion in his book, “The Fourth Floor”, a curiously hard to find book he wrote in 1962 “as a footnote to history and to the science of government”. He added “I am convinced that my experience as the United States Ambassador to Cuba was unusual in the sense that I lived through the Castro Communist Revolution, and I feel that I owe it to the American people to try to establish the fact that the Castro Communist Revolution need never have occurred. From this experience, i learned not only that our techniques of relations with Cuba were faulty but that the modus operandi for the determination of policy is not only inadequate but dangerous to the defense of our country”

    Batista was their guy too but he was backstabbed just like the backstab done to the Chinese Nationalists in favour of Mao. Even Stalin did not want a 100% Communist mainland China but 50% Communist 50% Capitalist mainland China like Korea or Vietnam (The USSR after the war did not have the resources to support a 100% Communist China just after the War according to the pragmatic Stalin) but the Rockefellars insisted upon him for a 100% Communist China

    Mr Smith openly states that in general the United States has always preferred to support the spread of Left Winged dictators over Right Winged dictators because the lefties are considered more progressive. (a dubious term, progressing towards what? A One World dictatorship, a New World Order?) The U.S. Government have supported right winged dictators in the past too, when the situation suited them but they by default they prefer lefty dictators.

    What is also interesting is that the wider Jewish Castro family had been big time players in the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade of Africans, centuries ago, as per Prof. Tony Martin.

    Replies: @Malla, @789

    If you don’t have the text of “Fourth floor” I can e-mail it to you.
    There was also the Congressional hearing, Ambassador Smith testified and said the same thing

    Stanley Montieth

    There is also a Mexican (?) guy who wrote a whole book on Castro the CIA asset.

    • Replies: @gatobart
    @789

    "There is also a Mexican (?) guy who wrote a whole book on Castro the CIA asset".

    Wasn't that by any chance the same guy who wrote a book about who had put the bomp in the bomp bah bomp bah bomp and the ram in the rama lama ding dong...?

    , @Malla
    @789

    Thanks. Sorry for my late response, was off Unz (erratic) for some time. Can you please email it to [email protected]. Thanks again.

  • @RadicalCenter
    @gatobart

    To us and the sixty-million-plus Hispanics in our country — more than half of whom are Mexican and almost none of whom are Chilean — “gringo” is not a positive term.

    Among the 100-million-plus Mexicans in Mexico, it’s not a positive term either, is it?

    But yeah, I wonder more how “gringo” is used in, say, some other Spanish-speaking country with a real significant population like, Uruguay or Panama.

    Replies: @gatobart, @gatobart

    Probably right. Bye bye Canada et al., then. This won’t last forever, although it may outlast a middle-aged guy like me.

    In any case you sound like just another old, bitter, lonely man. Do your children still speak to you…? You ALL use race as an excuse to spill their bile.

  • @RadicalCenter
    @gatobart

    To us and the sixty-million-plus Hispanics in our country — more than half of whom are Mexican and almost none of whom are Chilean — “gringo” is not a positive term.

    Among the 100-million-plus Mexicans in Mexico, it’s not a positive term either, is it?

    But yeah, I wonder more how “gringo” is used in, say, some other Spanish-speaking country with a real significant population like, Uruguay or Panama.

    Replies: @gatobart, @gatobart

    Wow, you mean that sixty million “Hispanics” are living in a country in which they hate the vast White, English speaking, majority…? In any case, that is not my problem. I don’t hate Gringos and so I have no personal reason for me to stop calling them so.

  • @anon
    @stevennonemaker88

    Literally no notable geneticist who reliably studies ancient samples accepts the Khazar Theory. And Ashkenazi Jews do not cluster with Eastern Europeans or Central Asians. None of their prominent Y-haplogroups are prominent in Eastern Europeans or Central Asians either.

    The ones who peddle it are either just Christians trying to reconcile their hatred for Jews with worshipping someone who is a Sandmonkey, racial supremacists peddling heretical brands, "woke anti-semites" who attack Israel as a wider way of waging war on Whitey.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    You’re right.

    Ashkenazi Jews (the majority of Jews in the USA and Israel) are typically mostly White European (primarily Italian) through the maternal line and mostly Semitic/“Middle Eastern” through the paternal line.

    Whatever “Jews” used to be before centuries of mixing in the Roman Empire and Europe, Ashkenazim nowadays are basically white Italian Semites with mis-spelled German and Slavic family names.

    There must be some scattered genetic heritage from Russia/Belarus, Ukraine, Poland, and Germany/Austria among many of the Ashkenazim, too.

    Jon Entine wrote a column about a study of Ashkenazi genetics for Genetic Literacy Project.

  • @gatobart
    @RadicalCenter

    Oh, BTW, an example just popped out of my mind which proves you wrong. That of "American" pop singer Dean Reed (who after showing Left wing tendencies and sympathy for the politics of the Soviet Block ended up emigrating to then East Germany, GDR, where he died) and who visited Chile during the Allende government to express his backing of the Chilean Socialist experiment. The local Left wing media used to call him El Gringo Choro (The Cool Gringo).

    Also:

    Our family will gladly visit and spend money in a country that does not impose foolish mandates re this badly exaggerated virus.

    Then there are very few countries you will be able to visit in the future, including almost all of the Americas, including Canada, where I live and where PM Trudeau is pondering about imposing vaccine passports. I don't mean I agree with any of that, I am just talking about facts.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @RadicalCenter

    To us and the sixty-million-plus Hispanics in our country — more than half of whom are Mexican and almost none of whom are Chilean — “gringo” is not a positive term.

    Among the 100-million-plus Mexicans in Mexico, it’s not a positive term either, is it?

    But yeah, I wonder more how “gringo” is used in, say, some other Spanish-speaking country with a real significant population like, Uruguay or Panama.

    • Replies: @gatobart
    @RadicalCenter

    Wow, you mean that sixty million "Hispanics" are living in a country in which they hate the vast White, English speaking, majority...? In any case, that is not my problem. I don't hate Gringos and so I have no personal reason for me to stop calling them so.

    , @gatobart
    @RadicalCenter

    Probably right. Bye bye Canada et al., then. This won’t last forever, although it may outlast a middle-aged guy like me.

    In any case you sound like just another old, bitter, lonely man. Do your children still speak to you...? You ALL use race as an excuse to spill their bile.

  • @gatobart
    @RadicalCenter

    Oh, BTW, an example just popped out of my mind which proves you wrong. That of "American" pop singer Dean Reed (who after showing Left wing tendencies and sympathy for the politics of the Soviet Block ended up emigrating to then East Germany, GDR, where he died) and who visited Chile during the Allende government to express his backing of the Chilean Socialist experiment. The local Left wing media used to call him El Gringo Choro (The Cool Gringo).

    Also:

    Our family will gladly visit and spend money in a country that does not impose foolish mandates re this badly exaggerated virus.

    Then there are very few countries you will be able to visit in the future, including almost all of the Americas, including Canada, where I live and where PM Trudeau is pondering about imposing vaccine passports. I don't mean I agree with any of that, I am just talking about facts.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @RadicalCenter

    Probably right. Bye bye Canada et al., then. This won’t last forever, although it may outlast a middle-aged guy like me.

  • @Vojkan
    @gsjackson

    Well, they make up numbers all the time and president Vučić is a pathological liar. I don't trust their data on anything, let alone with regards to the covid scamdemics. They recently came out with statistics of excess deaths since the start of the crisis and the number was greater than the number of those who officially died of covid. I sometimes have the impression that we exist in parallel realities.

    The Serbian government could never impose the level of restrictions and measures as absurd as in France for instance for two reasons. The first is that the former Yugoslavia was a communist country and people in former communist countries look at what the government or the media say with a greater distance than people in the West. The second reason is the importance of the grey economy. It is harder for a state to coerce people to whom it provides very, very little.

    Anyway, I just don't get how people in France have accepted something as absurd as wearing masks outdoors. That's something you'll see where I am only if the person has forgotten to take it off. Youngsters in shopping malls often don't wear them, I've been reprimanded only once in the bank for not wearing it over my nose, the mask and eyeglasses are incompatible, and shopkeepers remind people to put them because they fear steep fines, not the coronavirus. Though there are occasional haters who seem to have as sole purpose in life to make other people's lives miserable.

    For all their faults - and they have more than their share of them -, the Serbs' attitude during the crisis is the reason why for the first time since I came from France, I am glad to be here rather than there.

    Replies: @gsjackson, @gsjackson, @Commentator Mike

    Why would Russia, and countries in Eastern Europe and the Balkans, which all face severe demographic problems of declining population numbers, take up ineffective measures and promote vaccination if it kills people in numbers greater than what is statistically acceptable to fight a deadly disease like Covid-19? OK, I suppose you could say why did they allow this demographic problem to develop in the first place if they cared about their nations. But they all have professional health services and experts capable of investigating the Covid-19 problem without having to blindly follow orders from the WHO and the bosses of the NWO.

    I find that the anti-vaxxers are not being balanced in their presentations and are focusing only on some of the most sensationalist and fear inducing aspects, often speculative. I’m neither satisfied with the way the official media and the government are propagating their views but if you listen to some of the official health experts they tend to present a more balanced exposition than the anti-vaxxers. I do appreciate dissidents like C.J. Hopkins, David Icke and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. as I think it’s important to always sound out warnings and try to prevent the drive towards totalitarian absolutism in society but I don’t necessarily have to agree with all their views.

    So if one is opposed to all these official impositions and the vaccines what should one do? Obviously spitting in the face or beating up those who wear masks or heckling people waiting for their vaccine shots is both rude and ineffective, as well as criminal. It is up to those who are actually in positions to do something about it to do so, the experts and government officials, or the people to rise in a massive tidal wave against them and replace them with some other ones who would perhaps be more truthful and responsible. Individuals complaining or insulting others on the Internet is not going to do it. If anything, these white anti-vaxxer dissidents should learn from those “more capable” people (he, he) such as the Nigerians and really mount an effective campaign that could resolve the issue to their satisfaction, based on a true and balanced exposition of all the scientific evidence.

    The Polio Vaccine Boycott in Northern Nigeria

    In northern Nigeria in 2003, the political and religious leaders of Kano, Zamfara, and Kaduna states brought the immunization campaign to a halt by calling on parents not to allow their children to be immunized. These leaders argued that the vaccine could be contaminated with anti-fertility agents (estradiol hormone), HIV, and cancerous agents…

    In response to public outcry about the polio vaccine, the Nigerian federal government set up a technical committee on October 29, 2003 to assess the safety of the polio vaccine, sending samples of the vaccine for laboratory tests abroad. The committee’s report, however, was rejected by the SCSN, which alleged that the Muslim community was not properly represented on the committee.

    In response to this allegation, the federal government appointed another technical committee, which included selected members of the Muslim group Jama’atu Nasril Islam, to further reconfirm the safety of the vaccine. But the SCSN again rejected the nominees, asking for the inclusion of its own nominees…

    This impasse was eventually resolved in July 2004 through dialogue, with religious leaders playing a significant role in the process. The federal government had invited political and religious leaders to a series of meetings in order to find a solution to the impasse. The WHO and UNICEF also played a role in breaking the deadlock. These meetings led to a consensus in February 2004 to accept the SCSN’s demand to test the vaccine independently in a Muslim country.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1831725/

    It’s embarrassing to see that these African Muslims are better organised and more effective in their protests than these supposedly superior White dissidents and right wingers.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
    @Commentator Mike

    Russia is an independent country and has its own vaccine. I can't speak of other countries in Eastern Europe or the Balkans as I don't have enough information or interest to form an opinion.
    As for Serbia, there has been an effort to turn it into a normal country after the fall of Milošević but it was reversed after current president Vučić rose to power in 2012. He has turned the country into a shithole and has had the support of the West to do so but with regards to vaccines, it's people's choice. You can choose which vaccine you'll take between the Russian, Chinese or Western made, or you can choose to take none, so protesting vaccination isn't Serbs' current top priority.
    Anyway, the reluctance to be injected untested concoctions doesn't necessarily translate into an anti-vaxx stance. It is not the principle of vaccination per se that is a problem; I actually consider that if the risk of being exposed to a pathogen that is likely to cause a mortal or debilitating disease is non-negligible in the period for which a vaccine provides a protection, then teaching the organism to react to such pathogens is the right thing to do. Now, that's the principle. The problem is that the reality of vaccination isn't made to fulfil the principle.

  • anon[246] • Disclaimer says:
    @stevennonemaker88
    @GringoMike

    The Jews are the enemies of Christ:

    1 John 2:22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.

    The wealthy Jews are doing their father's work. Christ said that their father was the Devil.

    There IS a jewish conspiracy that goes back centuries. Most of them aren't even semites, but rather khazars mixed with eastern european whites.

    Replies: @anon

    Literally no notable geneticist who reliably studies ancient samples accepts the Khazar Theory. And Ashkenazi Jews do not cluster with Eastern Europeans or Central Asians. None of their prominent Y-haplogroups are prominent in Eastern Europeans or Central Asians either.

    The ones who peddle it are either just Christians trying to reconcile their hatred for Jews with worshipping someone who is a Sandmonkey, racial supremacists peddling heretical brands, “woke anti-semites” who attack Israel as a wider way of waging war on Whitey.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @anon

    You’re right.

    Ashkenazi Jews (the majority of Jews in the USA and Israel) are typically mostly White European (primarily Italian) through the maternal line and mostly Semitic/“Middle Eastern” through the paternal line.

    Whatever “Jews” used to be before centuries of mixing in the Roman Empire and Europe, Ashkenazim nowadays are basically white Italian Semites with mis-spelled German and Slavic family names.

    There must be some scattered genetic heritage from Russia/Belarus, Ukraine, Poland, and Germany/Austria among many of the Ashkenazim, too.

    Jon Entine wrote a column about a study of Ashkenazi genetics for Genetic Literacy Project.

  • @gsjackson
    @Vojkan

    Another poster has said here that the Serb government is dancing to tunes called by the EU, in hopes of joining. Do you agree with that?

    Replies: @Vojkan

    If that’s that what the people in the Serb government hope for then even my most pessimistic estimation of their intelligence is an overvaluation.

    Sure, all politicians in Eastern Europe dream of landing their offspring in overpaid positions in Brussels or Strasbourg to do fictional work because the only work within their field of competence is of the fictional kind. So they probably dream but I doubt they really hope.

    No, both they and the EU just pretend. Serb politicians pretend Serbia wants to join to finagle money from the EU to line their pockets, and EU politicians pretend relevancy to justify their existence.

    Both know that it is more likely that the EU will cease to exist than that Serbia will become a member.

  • @Vojkan
    There are always 'petits bourgeois' who fulminate against 'misbehaviour' and love to mimic Western civility but this has to be the first tim

    Replies: @Vojkan

    Funny how this unfinished comment never appeared to be edited and yet ended in the comments section eventually.

  • @Vojkan
    @gsjackson

    Well, they make up numbers all the time and president Vučić is a pathological liar. I don't trust their data on anything, let alone with regards to the covid scamdemics. They recently came out with statistics of excess deaths since the start of the crisis and the number was greater than the number of those who officially died of covid. I sometimes have the impression that we exist in parallel realities.

    The Serbian government could never impose the level of restrictions and measures as absurd as in France for instance for two reasons. The first is that the former Yugoslavia was a communist country and people in former communist countries look at what the government or the media say with a greater distance than people in the West. The second reason is the importance of the grey economy. It is harder for a state to coerce people to whom it provides very, very little.

    Anyway, I just don't get how people in France have accepted something as absurd as wearing masks outdoors. That's something you'll see where I am only if the person has forgotten to take it off. Youngsters in shopping malls often don't wear them, I've been reprimanded only once in the bank for not wearing it over my nose, the mask and eyeglasses are incompatible, and shopkeepers remind people to put them because they fear steep fines, not the coronavirus. Though there are occasional haters who seem to have as sole purpose in life to make other people's lives miserable.

    For all their faults - and they have more than their share of them -, the Serbs' attitude during the crisis is the reason why for the first time since I came from France, I am glad to be here rather than there.

    Replies: @gsjackson, @gsjackson, @Commentator Mike

    Another poster has said here that the Serb government is dancing to tunes called by the EU, in hopes of joining. Do you agree with that?

    • Replies: @Vojkan
    @gsjackson

    If that's that what the people in the Serb government hope for then even my most pessimistic estimation of their intelligence is an overvaluation.

    Sure, all politicians in Eastern Europe dream of landing their offspring in overpaid positions in Brussels or Strasbourg to do fictional work because the only work within their field of competence is of the fictional kind. So they probably dream but I doubt they really hope.

    No, both they and the EU just pretend. Serb politicians pretend Serbia wants to join to finagle money from the EU to line their pockets, and EU politicians pretend relevancy to justify their existence.

    Both know that it is more likely that the EU will cease to exist than that Serbia will become a member.

  • There are everywhere ‘petits bourgeois’ zealots who fulminate against their fellow citizens’ uncivil manners, and I admit that Serbs’ predisposition to unbecoming conduct can indeed be annoying, but this crisis has reversed the roles. People have had the time to gather back their senses since last fall and are increasingly aware that this is a big scam. The question is whether they will sink into apathy and fold to the government’s injunctions or increasingly resist them by ignoring them. We’ll soon see.

    As for ‘nose guards’, you can always count on an idiocracy to invent asinine occupations.

  • There are always ‘petits bourgeois’ who fulminate against ‘misbehaviour’ and love to mimic Western civility but this has to be the first tim

    • Replies: @Vojkan
    @Vojkan

    Funny how this unfinished comment never appeared to be edited and yet ended in the comments section eventually.

  • @Vojkan
    @gsjackson

    Well, they make up numbers all the time and president Vučić is a pathological liar. I don't trust their data on anything, let alone with regards to the covid scamdemics. They recently came out with statistics of excess deaths since the start of the crisis and the number was greater than the number of those who officially died of covid. I sometimes have the impression that we exist in parallel realities.

    The Serbian government could never impose the level of restrictions and measures as absurd as in France for instance for two reasons. The first is that the former Yugoslavia was a communist country and people in former communist countries look at what the government or the media say with a greater distance than people in the West. The second reason is the importance of the grey economy. It is harder for a state to coerce people to whom it provides very, very little.

    Anyway, I just don't get how people in France have accepted something as absurd as wearing masks outdoors. That's something you'll see where I am only if the person has forgotten to take it off. Youngsters in shopping malls often don't wear them, I've been reprimanded only once in the bank for not wearing it over my nose, the mask and eyeglasses are incompatible, and shopkeepers remind people to put them because they fear steep fines, not the coronavirus. Though there are occasional haters who seem to have as sole purpose in life to make other people's lives miserable.

    For all their faults - and they have more than their share of them -, the Serbs' attitude during the crisis is the reason why for the first time since I came from France, I am glad to be here rather than there.

    Replies: @gsjackson, @gsjackson, @Commentator Mike

    Sounds like Nis is evolving a little. I was there mid-November to mid-December, and there were quite a few people wearing the diapers outside.

    Belgrade has created the position of nose guards now for the malls. Can you imagine doing that for a living — telling adults to pull up their face diapers so as to fully impair their breathing, instead of just partially? It’s all so surreal.

    • Thanks: gsjackson
  • Malla says:
    @Malla
    @anon

    This is an interesting discussion in about the situation India is now in. In between Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (yellow T-shirt) and Abhinav Prakash (guy with glasses or spectacles)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG9kwII6XHQ
    Vaccine Embargo by Biden Administration - Abhijit Iyer-Mitra on Urban Chatterati
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra and Abhinav Prakash from 0:40 minutes to 2:30 minutes discuss about how the Biden administration are deliberately sabotaging vaccine manufacturing in India. For the Novavax vaccine not the CoviShield being currently being produced. Thus India gets Sputnik from Russia. They are unintentionally by trying to screw India, are doing India a favour.
    Abhinav Prakash: Biden administration seems worse than Trump.....
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (2:49 minutes:) Trump did not behave very badly. If we (India) needed help, the help was usually sent.With Biden, with all his talk about globalism you know, we are all going to hold hands and sing Kumbaya. It is a good lesson for Indians who voted Democrat in America, secretly I am hoping that something happens to their family members as well in this particular wave. It says a lot about the complete cluelessness of most of the foreign policy commenteriat and the so called self proclaimed "responsible informed" commenteriat saying that Biden would better for globalism and all that. Which is proven to be absolute RUBBISH. Across the board. Because remember this isn't the first. The US Navy was conducting freedom of navigation operations for the last 10 years, India never really gave a damn. Why? Because our extended zones are intended specifically for China. They are not intended for harassment or bullying of everyone and anyone. And it is been done specifically because China is doing certain things so it is a kind of reciprocal threat that if you can do that, we can do that with the Malacca Straits and things like that. So, why did the US navy feel the need to announce it publicly after 10 years? It makes no sense. You are conducting freedom of navigation operations, you are not being challenged, why did you go and have to announce it often all of a sudden. And notice whichever countries that they named, South Korea, Maldives and India. You remember, I was telling you that this man's (Biden) son is so compromised to China, his (Biden's) actions will not directly help China, they will indirectly help China. So he has effectively put all American allies in the same plank as China!! ""You are really no different from China anymore." It is the same thing with vaccines now. Essentially what he is doing is he is saying "you may be an ally but America first". In which case, what is the point of being an ally? So.. that is perfectly fine. In this last 3 to 4 months, Biden has done damage, actual damage to the American alliance system what Trump was claimed to have done in the last four years. It is a valid statement, it is a statistically supported statement.
    Abhinav Prakash (7:33 minutes): They are not helping anyone, it is not just India, they are not helping countries in their neighbourhood. What does it tell about America and its current administration? Vice pResident seems to be running the show!!
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (7:51 minutes): Look, the Vice President maybe be running the show but even she is really a puppet. Biden is basically a walking cadaver, he has one foot in the coffin. we do not know if he is alive or dead and when he is going to die. Now that being the case, you have to understand it is a whole a very very powerful bunch of Democrat party interests running the Government and those Democrat party interests are further controlled by corporate interests...... It is a lot of corporate interests that seem to align at the same time. For example in case of CAATSA sanctions, Boeing and Lockheed Martin would be thinking, look this is one good way of ensuring we get more sales in India and kick the Russians out of the Indian market. It would be Pfizer telling their kept senators and their purchased Congressmen, if you do this they (India) would be forced to buy our vaccines at a certain price.....Never attribute to malice what you can to stupidity. When your president is basically a walking cadaver, Vice President (Kamala Harris) is so compromised to Corporate Interests and his son (Biden) is so compromised to foreign interests, we don't really know if the US Govt is being controlled. Look at the mess they have at their southern border. POLITICO actually had ban its staff to refer about the Southern border crisis, none of them are sending their reporters or even screaming at the fact that they are are not being allowed to send their reporters. Could you imagine this have happened under Trump?
    Abhinav Prakash: (Laughing) No of course Not.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra: So there you go

    ...

    Abhinav Prakash (12:00 minutes) This brings to this hypocrisy of the people who pretend to be outraged at the misery of the people, this entire woke culture. What happened to the wokes in America? Why are they not on the streets and saying "Asian lives do matter". "You help the other countries. what happened to these people in NYT and Washington Post? Why is there no cover story that America is the greatest horder of live saving drugs in the world?
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (12:28 minutes): (Smiling) Because it was never about principles. Look, all these so called revolutionary movements are always about some smart manipulator who is able to manipulate a whole bunch of zombies. Tell me one revolution which did not happen on the back of zombie. I do not mean movie style Zombies but using it figuratively. But that is what BLM, anti-fa and all these movements ARE. They are essentially low IQ stupid people, foot soldiers who are cynically manipulated....Leadership is screwing people and make them enjoy the process of getting screwed over.

    Replies: @Malla

    From the same video
    Abhinav Prakash (16:18 minutes): Coming back to Biden and his America, public sentiment in India has turned against America. It is not just about this vaccine thing but other things Biden has been doing. What do you think is going to be future of diplomacy in between the two countries and what will happen to QUAD?

    [MORE]

    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (16:40 minutes):The diplomacy was already strained when Biden took over. It was not strained it was a bit uncomfortable and now it is only going to get only more uncomfortable. They are going to try to smoothen it out, they are try to normalize it but it isn’t going to work. ….My entire argument for an alliance with America was based on the common threat from China, the need for technology (B) and a need of market (C). It was never been based on this cocaine induced dream of shared values. We do not share values, let us be very clear about this.
    Abhinav Prakash (17:52 minutes): Yes we do not.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (17:52 minutes): Indian definition of democracy (Westminster system) is very different from American democracy. India’s definition of freedom of speech is very different from the American definition of freedom of speech. In fact I would say America now is coming to the Indian definition of freedom of speech, not the other way around. The only shared value is I think, is that neither country achieved a monopoly of violence. In America because of the gun laws and in India because we do not have the police (undermanned police)…..Let us be clear, India and America have no shared values.…..(19:05 minutes) Now, even if you assume that the Nehru, Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi period was this glorious era of free speech and things like that, if it was based on shared values, why were India America relations at absolute rock bottom at that time? Was India was a great paragon of democracy in 1971 when the USA sent its fleet against us? No it was purely because of the USSR and India’s friendship with the USSR. And lets be clear. The only common agenda that India and America have is China.
    Abhinav Prakash (19:47 minutes): Agreed
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (19:50 minutes): That is it. We don’t agree on the Middle East, we don’t agree on Iran, we don’t agree on Russia ,we don’t agree on the EU , we don’t agree on freedom of the seas.
    Abhinav Prakash (20:00 minutes): We don’t agree even on Bangladesh and Myanmar.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra: Absolutely, so what the hell do we agree on. What is the shared values? What is the shared vision? I really do no tget what this shared vision is.
    Abhinav Prakash (20:15 minutes): As I said, India and America do not have any shared values. Some of our values might be similar, like our commitment to a constitutional democracy. but that is it. We are a completely different people. We are a completely different society. We belong to completely different civilizations. We have nothing in common.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (20:32 minutes): We belong to different stages of development. Even our assumptions of the fundamental priniciples of what is democracy, what is secularism, what is individual liberty, are compeltely different.
    Abhinav Prakash (20:50 minutes): Are completely different, I agree to that. What will happen to this hyped Indo-American alliance and QUAD and all. it seems that the trust that was built over the last decade or so has now evaporated and we Indians are reminded how America has been a hostile country to India.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (21:07 minutes): Absolutely. I don’t think these people realize how much cumulative damage they have done. Individually yes. Individually these statements about freedom of navigation, individually their statements about Novavax raw materials and the CAATSA sanctions would be the cherry on the cake ……Cumulatively the damage they have done is extremely severe.
    Abhinav Prakash (2:41 minutes) : What will happen to this anti-China alliance now? America, Europe, Japan etc… are doing business with China, setting up factorries, investing money. They wanted India to be their frontline soldier against China, why should India be or care for the QUAD anymore.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (22: 14 minutes): Why I will continue to support an Indo-America alliance…It is not that America is very good….because CHINA IS A LOT WORSE...Absolutely reprehensible creature..so every other creature by comparison …including a preying mantis would look better then they ever could….
    Abhinav Prakash: America certainly is not trustworthy completely unreliably and completely corrupt as well.

    …….

    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (24:42 minutes): America is a fantastic ally if you can can manage to corrupt them. …had we gone in and purchased a lot of things. Had we developed industrially the way China has and bought over most of these senators and congressmen because we all know they are for sale, they go to the highest bidder.…had we done that we could have been assured of their reliability. (25:18 minutes) For example China is very happy with Biden being an extremely reliable friend. Pretends to be an enemy but is actually a friend kind of thing. So lets not see America is not reliable. The question is if you don’t have leverage do not expect reliability. Reliability comes on interdependence and leverage……(25:53 minutes) With France and Russia, they have always been and Israel, they have always been extremely trustworthy as a rule. And it seems to be ideological than it is actually practical. Because with Russia, it is a single product trade which we have with them that is defense. With France its always been much more of a sort of mental connect with France where France sees us as this..kindred brother who is just as irritating, a pain in the ass for America just as France is within NATO, because France always had this independent streak about NATO ….Self Reliance almost…. What you are seeing is that the three countries with whom we have had a great ideological affinity, historically, that have proven to be much more helpful and reliable than America. America needs to be purchased. It is a market, it is not a country, it is a market. It is a meat market.
    ….
    Abhinav Prakash (29:13 minutes: But the American behaviour will be remembered in India for long…it is a good thing that our generation has learnt that America cannot be reliable.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra: Yeah

  • Malla says:
    @anon
    @Malla


    thanks to Joe Biden backstabbing India.
     
    How did Joe Biden backstab India? Why do you think the QUAD is falling apart?

    I think Modi is perfectly capable of looking out for India's interest in the geopolitical games.

    Replies: @Malla

    This is an interesting discussion in about the situation India is now in. In between Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (yellow T-shirt) and Abhinav Prakash (guy with glasses or spectacles)

    Video Link
    Vaccine Embargo by Biden Administration – Abhijit Iyer-Mitra on Urban Chatterati

    [MORE]

    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra and Abhinav Prakash from 0:40 minutes to 2:30 minutes discuss about how the Biden administration are deliberately sabotaging vaccine manufacturing in India. For the Novavax vaccine not the CoviShield being currently being produced. Thus India gets Sputnik from Russia. They are unintentionally by trying to screw India, are doing India a favour.
    Abhinav Prakash: Biden administration seems worse than Trump…..
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (2:49 minutes:) Trump did not behave very badly. If we (India) needed help, the help was usually sent.With Biden, with all his talk about globalism you know, we are all going to hold hands and sing Kumbaya. It is a good lesson for Indians who voted Democrat in America, secretly I am hoping that something happens to their family members as well in this particular wave. It says a lot about the complete cluelessness of most of the foreign policy commenteriat and the so called self proclaimed “responsible informed” commenteriat saying that Biden would better for globalism and all that. Which is proven to be absolute RUBBISH. Across the board. Because remember this isn’t the first. The US Navy was conducting freedom of navigation operations for the last 10 years, India never really gave a damn. Why? Because our extended zones are intended specifically for China. They are not intended for harassment or bullying of everyone and anyone. And it is been done specifically because China is doing certain things so it is a kind of reciprocal threat that if you can do that, we can do that with the Malacca Straits and things like that. So, why did the US navy feel the need to announce it publicly after 10 years? It makes no sense. You are conducting freedom of navigation operations, you are not being challenged, why did you go and have to announce it often all of a sudden. And notice whichever countries that they named, South Korea, Maldives and India. You remember, I was telling you that this man’s (Biden) son is so compromised to China, his (Biden’s) actions will not directly help China, they will indirectly help China. So he has effectively put all American allies in the same plank as China!! “”You are really no different from China anymore.” It is the same thing with vaccines now. Essentially what he is doing is he is saying “you may be an ally but America first”. In which case, what is the point of being an ally? So.. that is perfectly fine. In this last 3 to 4 months, Biden has done damage, actual damage to the American alliance system what Trump was claimed to have done in the last four years. It is a valid statement, it is a statistically supported statement.
    Abhinav Prakash (7:33 minutes): They are not helping anyone, it is not just India, they are not helping countries in their neighbourhood. What does it tell about America and its current administration? Vice pResident seems to be running the show!!
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (7:51 minutes): Look, the Vice President maybe be running the show but even she is really a puppet. Biden is basically a walking cadaver, he has one foot in the coffin. we do not know if he is alive or dead and when he is going to die. Now that being the case, you have to understand it is a whole a very very powerful bunch of Democrat party interests running the Government and those Democrat party interests are further controlled by corporate interests…… It is a lot of corporate interests that seem to align at the same time. For example in case of CAATSA sanctions, Boeing and Lockheed Martin would be thinking, look this is one good way of ensuring we get more sales in India and kick the Russians out of the Indian market. It would be Pfizer telling their kept senators and their purchased Congressmen, if you do this they (India) would be forced to buy our vaccines at a certain price…..Never attribute to malice what you can to stupidity. When your president is basically a walking cadaver, Vice President (Kamala Harris) is so compromised to Corporate Interests and his son (Biden) is so compromised to foreign interests, we don’t really know if the US Govt is being controlled. Look at the mess they have at their southern border. POLITICO actually had ban its staff to refer about the Southern border crisis, none of them are sending their reporters or even screaming at the fact that they are are not being allowed to send their reporters. Could you imagine this have happened under Trump?
    Abhinav Prakash: (Laughing) No of course Not.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra: So there you go

    Abhinav Prakash (12:00 minutes) This brings to this hypocrisy of the people who pretend to be outraged at the misery of the people, this entire woke culture. What happened to the wokes in America? Why are they not on the streets and saying “Asian lives do matter”. “You help the other countries. what happened to these people in NYT and Washington Post? Why is there no cover story that America is the greatest horder of live saving drugs in the world?
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (12:28 minutes): (Smiling) Because it was never about principles. Look, all these so called revolutionary movements are always about some smart manipulator who is able to manipulate a whole bunch of zombies. Tell me one revolution which did not happen on the back of zombie. I do not mean movie style Zombies but using it figuratively. But that is what BLM, anti-fa and all these movements ARE. They are essentially low IQ stupid people, foot soldiers who are cynically manipulated….Leadership is screwing people and make them enjoy the process of getting screwed over.

    • Replies: @Malla
    @Malla

    From the same video
    Abhinav Prakash (16:18 minutes): Coming back to Biden and his America, public sentiment in India has turned against America. It is not just about this vaccine thing but other things Biden has been doing. What do you think is going to be future of diplomacy in between the two countries and what will happen to QUAD?
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (16:40 minutes):The diplomacy was already strained when Biden took over. It was not strained it was a bit uncomfortable and now it is only going to get only more uncomfortable. They are going to try to smoothen it out, they are try to normalize it but it isn't going to work. ....My entire argument for an alliance with America was based on the common threat from China, the need for technology (B) and a need of market (C). It was never been based on this cocaine induced dream of shared values. We do not share values, let us be very clear about this.
    Abhinav Prakash (17:52 minutes): Yes we do not.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (17:52 minutes): Indian definition of democracy (Westminster system) is very different from American democracy. India's definition of freedom of speech is very different from the American definition of freedom of speech. In fact I would say America now is coming to the Indian definition of freedom of speech, not the other way around. The only shared value is I think, is that neither country achieved a monopoly of violence. In America because of the gun laws and in India because we do not have the police (undermanned police).....Let us be clear, India and America have no shared values......(19:05 minutes) Now, even if you assume that the Nehru, Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi period was this glorious era of free speech and things like that, if it was based on shared values, why were India America relations at absolute rock bottom at that time? Was India was a great paragon of democracy in 1971 when the USA sent its fleet against us? No it was purely because of the USSR and India's friendship with the USSR. And lets be clear. The only common agenda that India and America have is China.
    Abhinav Prakash (19:47 minutes): Agreed
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (19:50 minutes): That is it. We don't agree on the Middle East, we don't agree on Iran, we don't agree on Russia ,we don't agree on the EU , we don't agree on freedom of the seas.
    Abhinav Prakash (20:00 minutes): We don't agree even on Bangladesh and Myanmar.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra: Absolutely, so what the hell do we agree on. What is the shared values? What is the shared vision? I really do no tget what this shared vision is.
    Abhinav Prakash (20:15 minutes): As I said, India and America do not have any shared values. Some of our values might be similar, like our commitment to a constitutional democracy. but that is it. We are a completely different people. We are a completely different society. We belong to completely different civilizations. We have nothing in common.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (20:32 minutes): We belong to different stages of development. Even our assumptions of the fundamental priniciples of what is democracy, what is secularism, what is individual liberty, are compeltely different.
    Abhinav Prakash (20:50 minutes): Are completely different, I agree to that. What will happen to this hyped Indo-American alliance and QUAD and all. it seems that the trust that was built over the last decade or so has now evaporated and we Indians are reminded how America has been a hostile country to India.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (21:07 minutes): Absolutely. I don't think these people realize how much cumulative damage they have done. Individually yes. Individually these statements about freedom of navigation, individually their statements about Novavax raw materials and the CAATSA sanctions would be the cherry on the cake ......Cumulatively the damage they have done is extremely severe.
    Abhinav Prakash (2:41 minutes) : What will happen to this anti-China alliance now? America, Europe, Japan etc... are doing business with China, setting up factorries, investing money. They wanted India to be their frontline soldier against China, why should India be or care for the QUAD anymore.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (22: 14 minutes): Why I will continue to support an Indo-America alliance...It is not that America is very good....because CHINA IS A LOT WORSE...Absolutely reprehensible creature..so every other creature by comparison ...including a preying mantis would look better then they ever could....
    Abhinav Prakash: America certainly is not trustworthy completely unreliably and completely corrupt as well.

    .......

    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (24:42 minutes): America is a fantastic ally if you can can manage to corrupt them. ...had we gone in and purchased a lot of things. Had we developed industrially the way China has and bought over most of these senators and congressmen because we all know they are for sale, they go to the highest bidder....had we done that we could have been assured of their reliability. (25:18 minutes) For example China is very happy with Biden being an extremely reliable friend. Pretends to be an enemy but is actually a friend kind of thing. So lets not see America is not reliable. The question is if you don't have leverage do not expect reliability. Reliability comes on interdependence and leverage......(25:53 minutes) With France and Russia, they have always been and Israel, they have always been extremely trustworthy as a rule. And it seems to be ideological than it is actually practical. Because with Russia, it is a single product trade which we have with them that is defense. With France its always been much more of a sort of mental connect with France where France sees us as this..kindred brother who is just as irritating, a pain in the ass for America just as France is within NATO, because France always had this independent streak about NATO ....Self Reliance almost.... What you are seeing is that the three countries with whom we have had a great ideological affinity, historically, that have proven to be much more helpful and reliable than America. America needs to be purchased. It is a market, it is not a country, it is a market. It is a meat market.
    ....
    Abhinav Prakash (29:13 minutes: But the American behaviour will be remembered in India for long...it is a good thing that our generation has learnt that America cannot be reliable.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra: Yeah

  • @gsjackson
    @Vojkan

    I'm an American who 23 days ago returned to Belgrade after three months in much more relaxed Albania. I was shocked to find Serbia had gone back to making people eat and drink outside. But now that absurdity has been removed for the time being, and I'm noticing more and more people on city buses not wearing their diapers. Could it be the worm is turning?

    I want to yell at Serbs: 'Stop taking the PCR test.' That's the government's pretext for all the chicken shit, and if they don't have "cases" they can't justify it. But I suppose they would just make up the numbers if they had to.

    It's good to hear your assessment. I've been a little disappointed in how much the Serbs have been willing to put up with so far, but to their great credit they don't self police. No stink eyes or lectures about improper mask usage from anybody. It's a very different population in the U.S.

    Replies: @The Real World, @Vojkan

    Well, they make up numbers all the time and president Vučić is a pathological liar. I don’t trust their data on anything, let alone with regards to the covid scamdemics. They recently came out with statistics of excess deaths since the start of the crisis and the number was greater than the number of those who officially died of covid. I sometimes have the impression that we exist in parallel realities.

    The Serbian government could never impose the level of restrictions and measures as absurd as in France for instance for two reasons. The first is that the former Yugoslavia was a communist country and people in former communist countries look at what the government or the media say with a greater distance than people in the West. The second reason is the importance of the grey economy. It is harder for a state to coerce people to whom it provides very, very little.

    Anyway, I just don’t get how people in France have accepted something as absurd as wearing masks outdoors. That’s something you’ll see where I am only if the person has forgotten to take it off. Youngsters in shopping malls often don’t wear them, I’ve been reprimanded only once in the bank for not wearing it over my nose, the mask and eyeglasses are incompatible, and shopkeepers remind people to put them because they fear steep fines, not the coronavirus. Though there are occasional haters who seem to have as sole purpose in life to make other people’s lives miserable.

    For all their faults – and they have more than their share of them -, the Serbs’ attitude during the crisis is the reason why for the first time since I came from France, I am glad to be here rather than there.

    • Thanks: gsjackson
    • Replies: @gsjackson
    @Vojkan

    Sounds like Nis is evolving a little. I was there mid-November to mid-December, and there were quite a few people wearing the diapers outside.

    Belgrade has created the position of nose guards now for the malls. Can you imagine doing that for a living -- telling adults to pull up their face diapers so as to fully impair their breathing, instead of just partially? It's all so surreal.

    , @gsjackson
    @Vojkan

    Another poster has said here that the Serb government is dancing to tunes called by the EU, in hopes of joining. Do you agree with that?

    Replies: @Vojkan

    , @Commentator Mike
    @Vojkan

    Why would Russia, and countries in Eastern Europe and the Balkans, which all face severe demographic problems of declining population numbers, take up ineffective measures and promote vaccination if it kills people in numbers greater than what is statistically acceptable to fight a deadly disease like Covid-19? OK, I suppose you could say why did they allow this demographic problem to develop in the first place if they cared about their nations. But they all have professional health services and experts capable of investigating the Covid-19 problem without having to blindly follow orders from the WHO and the bosses of the NWO.

    I find that the anti-vaxxers are not being balanced in their presentations and are focusing only on some of the most sensationalist and fear inducing aspects, often speculative. I'm neither satisfied with the way the official media and the government are propagating their views but if you listen to some of the official health experts they tend to present a more balanced exposition than the anti-vaxxers. I do appreciate dissidents like C.J. Hopkins, David Icke and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. as I think it's important to always sound out warnings and try to prevent the drive towards totalitarian absolutism in society but I don't necessarily have to agree with all their views.

    So if one is opposed to all these official impositions and the vaccines what should one do? Obviously spitting in the face or beating up those who wear masks or heckling people waiting for their vaccine shots is both rude and ineffective, as well as criminal. It is up to those who are actually in positions to do something about it to do so, the experts and government officials, or the people to rise in a massive tidal wave against them and replace them with some other ones who would perhaps be more truthful and responsible. Individuals complaining or insulting others on the Internet is not going to do it. If anything, these white anti-vaxxer dissidents should learn from those "more capable" people (he, he) such as the Nigerians and really mount an effective campaign that could resolve the issue to their satisfaction, based on a true and balanced exposition of all the scientific evidence.

    The Polio Vaccine Boycott in Northern Nigeria


    In northern Nigeria in 2003, the political and religious leaders of Kano, Zamfara, and Kaduna states brought the immunization campaign to a halt by calling on parents not to allow their children to be immunized. These leaders argued that the vaccine could be contaminated with anti-fertility agents (estradiol hormone), HIV, and cancerous agents...

    In response to public outcry about the polio vaccine, the Nigerian federal government set up a technical committee on October 29, 2003 to assess the safety of the polio vaccine, sending samples of the vaccine for laboratory tests abroad. The committee's report, however, was rejected by the SCSN, which alleged that the Muslim community was not properly represented on the committee.

    In response to this allegation, the federal government appointed another technical committee, which included selected members of the Muslim group Jama'atu Nasril Islam, to further reconfirm the safety of the vaccine. But the SCSN again rejected the nominees, asking for the inclusion of its own nominees...

    This impasse was eventually resolved in July 2004 through dialogue, with religious leaders playing a significant role in the process. The federal government had invited political and religious leaders to a series of meetings in order to find a solution to the impasse. The WHO and UNICEF also played a role in breaking the deadlock. These meetings led to a consensus in February 2004 to accept the SCSN's demand to test the vaccine independently in a Muslim country.
     
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1831725/

    It's embarrassing to see that these African Muslims are better organised and more effective in their protests than these supposedly superior White dissidents and right wingers.

    Replies: @Vojkan

  • @Anon
    @gatobart

    Your English is not the problem. Your inability to think critically in the face of your typical Third World jealousy is the problem, Indito. (Ha! Yes, I know, you Chileans are convinced you're White. Widespread DNA sampling in the last couple of decades has disproved that old canard. Sorry Stoddard, but you were way off.) Who knew there was a Chilean version of "we wuz kings and shit?" Hilarious!

    Replies: @gatobart

    Sorry,…are you high on something…? If so, please try to write something to me when you can actually make sense.

    For those who are able to think clearly at this moment, this poor clueless guy is making absolutely no sense. I spend months every year in Chile, and I have stayed also in some other South American countries, and the last thing Argentinians, Peruvians, Bolivians, Colombians and the rest would say about Chileans is that they feel any “Third World jealousy”. Quite the contrary. They even ridicule Chileans because they consider that Chileans think of themselves as being already part of the First World, the developed world and that for that reason they look down upon them with contempt and arrogance…! And that is true to some extent, at least until 2019, all the hype in the world media about Chilean development and progress during the last decades had gone to some extent to the people’s head over there and so they have no time now for jealousy of for feeling inferior. Chileans will gladly tell you how advanced and developed their country has become at the least excuse and even right now they won’t miss telling you that the country is the second or third in the world in the percentage of the population who has been already vaccinated. If this guys was ever in Chile that had to be during the XX Century as Chileans have practically forgotten all about their former race complex and about any inferiority complex. They leave that for their neighbors.

    There is also a lot of jealousy in Latin America, let alone South America, about Chile as Chile has traditionally attracted far more attention in the world than any of them when crucial tragic or simply important events take place. Everyone may remember the rescue of the 33 miners in Northern Chile in 2010, which attracted a world TV audience over a billion and many TV chains keep broadcasting live for an entire day the operation. Here in Canada the CBC did it. As comparison, mining disasters in LatAm are practically ignored by the world media. Pinochet is also a name everyone knows, it has even used by many all over by regular people (“Our new boss is a real Pinochet” “So do you want to install Pinochetism in this household…?”, etc. Also Allende. Yet nobody knows who Rafael Videla was, an Argentinian military golpista who killed 10 times people more than Pinochet. When Allende was toppled during the First 911 the event caused shock waves all over the world, specially in Europe while military coups of that era in LatAm didn’t deserve more than a short article in the papers. My suspicion is that this guy is just another Latino jealous of Chileans, they all sound just like that.

  • @HbutnotG
    @gatobart

    The term "honkie" is an ebonic term originally coined in negro parlance for the term "Hunkie." A Hunkie was a person of Serbian, Croatian, Slovenian, Macedonian, or Hungarian birth who fled Europe before WW I - having no interest in being run by the (Germanic) Austro-Hungarian Empire which treated these people like serfs. That's how the Archduke Ferdie got killed. Once here, these immigrants even referred to themselves as "Hunkies."

    Like most other people in early to mid 20th century America, Hunkies tended to congregate in their own part of the city. Later in the century, coloreds began to mix in with Hunkies and eventually, as the familiar white people to the local coloreds, they acquired the term "Honkie" simply meaning "white person." This, term btw, began on the lower east side of Detroit. I am unaware of any other place in the country where Hunkies and coloreds mixed.

    Replies: @gatobart

    Thank you very much for taking the time to explain all that. I didn’t know that Eastern Europeans arriving in the U.S. in early XX century had deserved also their own appelative, just like practically all other ethnic groups and races.

  • @Mulga Mumblebrain
    @Malla

    Indian Hindutva rags were full of boastful Hindutva thugs bragging of setting China up on the border. Such little displays of Indian martial valour are about all the failing state has going for it-to impress the White Bosses. Meanwhile the Chinese are rushing equipment to India, particularly oxygen compressors, to aid the failing state battle a pandemic that Modi and his henchmen mishandled categorically.

    Replies: @Malla

    There are no White bosses. Get your head out of your ass. Indians look at China (rightly or wrongly) as an imperialist country, And so do Filipinos and even many Russians for example. This White boss is nothing but Chinese Wumao trying to deflect the bad reputation China has among some of its neighbours and even people afar. There are Africans complaining about Chinese “neo- colonialism”. This has nothing to do with Whitey.

    Meanwhile the Chinese are rushing equipment to India

    So is Pakistan. So what? India and Pakistan are enemies.

  • @gsjackson
    @Vojkan

    I'm an American who 23 days ago returned to Belgrade after three months in much more relaxed Albania. I was shocked to find Serbia had gone back to making people eat and drink outside. But now that absurdity has been removed for the time being, and I'm noticing more and more people on city buses not wearing their diapers. Could it be the worm is turning?

    I want to yell at Serbs: 'Stop taking the PCR test.' That's the government's pretext for all the chicken shit, and if they don't have "cases" they can't justify it. But I suppose they would just make up the numbers if they had to.

    It's good to hear your assessment. I've been a little disappointed in how much the Serbs have been willing to put up with so far, but to their great credit they don't self police. No stink eyes or lectures about improper mask usage from anybody. It's a very different population in the U.S.

    Replies: @The Real World, @Vojkan

    It’s a very different population in the U.S.

    Hold on there, gs. Since you’re American, you know that this is a VAST country with very different topographies, populations, cultures, politics, etc.

    Where I live, in the Midwest, I have not experienced nor heard from anybody of anyone calling them out for not wearing masks. And we’re 14 months into the diaper-wearing dictates. Most still ARE wearing them in stores but I’m seeing more who aren’t, incl me, and no one says a thing.

    It’s mostly the big, urban Libtard areas where that happens.

    • Agree: gsjackson
  • @Anon
    @Commentator Mike

    "Many of these Third Worlders function reasonably well in First World societies when they move there. "

    What? Where exactly do you think these Third Worlders are functioning well in the First World?

    Replies: @Commentator Mike

    I was implying Indian and other professionals. Sure many may be lowering standards but still I thought “reasonably well” was an adequate description. Well, OK, I wouldn’t trust many of them and prefer not to have to deal with them, but they’re not quite shitting in the streets and turning US into India. If anything it is many whites who are now shitting in the streets and turning city centres into streets India.

  • @Malla
    @anon


    Both Vietnam and the Philippines have their conflict with China
     
    Exactly my point. Just because they have conflicts with China does not make them servants of YT.

    As far as QUAD, India joined the QUAD only because of China. Simple as that. But now the QUAD seems to be falling apart thanks to Joe Biden backstabbing India.

    India is different.
     
    Indians believe that China has continuously backstabed their nation and acts like an imperial bully and recently attacked Indian soldiers at Galwan (not my personal view). Due to nationalism and national pride, they post like this.

    Replies: @anon, @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Indian Hindutva rags were full of boastful Hindutva thugs bragging of setting China up on the border. Such little displays of Indian martial valour are about all the failing state has going for it-to impress the White Bosses. Meanwhile the Chinese are rushing equipment to India, particularly oxygen compressors, to aid the failing state battle a pandemic that Modi and his henchmen mishandled categorically.

    • Replies: @Malla
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    There are no White bosses. Get your head out of your ass. Indians look at China (rightly or wrongly) as an imperialist country, And so do Filipinos and even many Russians for example. This White boss is nothing but Chinese Wumao trying to deflect the bad reputation China has among some of its neighbours and even people afar. There are Africans complaining about Chinese "neo- colonialism". This has nothing to do with Whitey.


    Meanwhile the Chinese are rushing equipment to India
     
    So is Pakistan. So what? India and Pakistan are enemies.
  • @Anon
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Ha! Yeah, right, another crazy scheme by that "market moron" Bob Hawke and his greedy, vampiric "capitalist" henchman Paul Keating. Funny how ordinary battler aren't complaining about superannuation, just screeching, maladjusted, malcontents, such as yourself.

    Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain

    The ‘ordinary battlers’ are going out backwards. No pay increases for at least seven years, none in sight, jobs precarious, low paid and contingent, under-employment at record levels, housing unaffordable, inflation surging, the environment collapsing and the most Rightwing regime ever, led by a Pentecostalist thug (pardon the tautology)who WANTS climate disaster to occur so that we can all be consumed in ‘The Fire’, about to destroy the Disability Insurance scheme and superannuation-but the dumb-fucks, in their greed and stupidity keep voting for it, so fuck ’em all, I say. Oh, and ditto for you, with knobs on.

  • Anon[713] • Disclaimer says:
    @gatobart
    @The Real World

    "your reading comprehension is sub-par"

    If I had a nickel for every time someone has used the old, lame and dumb "Your English is not good enough" comeback line as an answer to any of my posts I would have by now enough money to marry newly-free Melinda Gates.

    Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain, @Anon

    Your English is not the problem. Your inability to think critically in the face of your typical Third World jealousy is the problem, Indito. (Ha! Yes, I know, you Chileans are convinced you’re White. Widespread DNA sampling in the last couple of decades has disproved that old canard. Sorry Stoddard, but you were way off.) Who knew there was a Chilean version of “we wuz kings and shit?” Hilarious!

    • Replies: @gatobart
    @Anon

    Sorry,...are you high on something...? If so, please try to write something to me when you can actually make sense.

    For those who are able to think clearly at this moment, this poor clueless guy is making absolutely no sense. I spend months every year in Chile, and I have stayed also in some other South American countries, and the last thing Argentinians, Peruvians, Bolivians, Colombians and the rest would say about Chileans is that they feel any "Third World jealousy". Quite the contrary. They even ridicule Chileans because they consider that Chileans think of themselves as being already part of the First World, the developed world and that for that reason they look down upon them with contempt and arrogance...! And that is true to some extent, at least until 2019, all the hype in the world media about Chilean development and progress during the last decades had gone to some extent to the people's head over there and so they have no time now for jealousy of for feeling inferior. Chileans will gladly tell you how advanced and developed their country has become at the least excuse and even right now they won't miss telling you that the country is the second or third in the world in the percentage of the population who has been already vaccinated. If this guys was ever in Chile that had to be during the XX Century as Chileans have practically forgotten all about their former race complex and about any inferiority complex. They leave that for their neighbors.

    There is also a lot of jealousy in Latin America, let alone South America, about Chile as Chile has traditionally attracted far more attention in the world than any of them when crucial tragic or simply important events take place. Everyone may remember the rescue of the 33 miners in Northern Chile in 2010, which attracted a world TV audience over a billion and many TV chains keep broadcasting live for an entire day the operation. Here in Canada the CBC did it. As comparison, mining disasters in LatAm are practically ignored by the world media. Pinochet is also a name everyone knows, it has even used by many all over by regular people ("Our new boss is a real Pinochet" "So do you want to install Pinochetism in this household...?", etc. Also Allende. Yet nobody knows who Rafael Videla was, an Argentinian military golpista who killed 10 times people more than Pinochet. When Allende was toppled during the First 911 the event caused shock waves all over the world, specially in Europe while military coups of that era in LatAm didn't deserve more than a short article in the papers. My suspicion is that this guy is just another Latino jealous of Chileans, they all sound just like that.

  • @Commentator Mike
    @Malla

    Many of these Third Worlders function reasonably well in First World societies when they move there. So why can't they create functional societies of their own so they don't have to move anywhere else? Surely it can't be that difficult to do, to copy something from elsewhere that they find attractive. Maybe there are HDB reasons for why those countries are the way they are but also imperialism wants them that way to exploit them better. It could be a bit of both. I'm not convinced that copying the West would be progress, but since most others seem to think so, even in the Third World, and even enough to want to move to it, what's stopping them from creating a copy of it themselves? At least a good enough copy to keep them there.

    Replies: @gatobart, @Vojkan, @Anon

    “Many of these Third Worlders function reasonably well in First World societies when they move there. ”

    What? Where exactly do you think these Third Worlders are functioning well in the First World?

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    @Anon

    I was implying Indian and other professionals. Sure many may be lowering standards but still I thought "reasonably well" was an adequate description. Well, OK, I wouldn't trust many of them and prefer not to have to deal with them, but they're not quite shitting in the streets and turning US into India. If anything it is many whites who are now shitting in the streets and turning city centres into streets India.

  • @gatobart
    @HbutnotG

    "In the 1920’s, Hunkies were the Mexicans du jour"

    Who the Heck are the Hunkies...? I googled it and came out with this'

    hunk·y:

    large, strong, and sexually attractive (typically used of a man).

    Uh, that would have been quite a sight to behold. The U.S. being invaded by a crowd of of big, strong, sexually attractive men.

    Replies: @Malla, @HbutnotG

    The term “honkie” is an ebonic term originally coined in negro parlance for the term “Hunkie.” A Hunkie was a person of Serbian, Croatian, Slovenian, Macedonian, or Hungarian birth who fled Europe before WW I – having no interest in being run by the (Germanic) Austro-Hungarian Empire which treated these people like serfs. That’s how the Archduke Ferdie got killed. Once here, these immigrants even referred to themselves as “Hunkies.”

    Like most other people in early to mid 20th century America, Hunkies tended to congregate in their own part of the city. Later in the century, coloreds began to mix in with Hunkies and eventually, as the familiar white people to the local coloreds, they acquired the term “Honkie” simply meaning “white person.” This, term btw, began on the lower east side of Detroit. I am unaware of any other place in the country where Hunkies and coloreds mixed.

    • Replies: @gatobart
    @HbutnotG

    Thank you very much for taking the time to explain all that. I didn't know that Eastern Europeans arriving in the U.S. in early XX century had deserved also their own appelative, just like practically all other ethnic groups and races.

  • @Vojkan
    @The Real World

    Do you really believe the vaccines are against covid-19? Most people who died from the disease were over eighty. For 99.99% of younger people, the disease is milder than the flu. You don't vaccinate people over eighty, unless you want to hasten their deaths. The benefit of vaccinating younger people is zero for them and zero for the elderly as it doesn't prevent the vaccinated from infecting the non-vaccinated. So, what are the vaccines for?

    The only conspiracy with regards to covid is the conspiracy to stay in power. You overlook one crucial fact: TPTB are shit-scared of the people. They are shit-scared because they have aroused the people and pulled off revolutions on pretexts that seem trivial compared to their deeds since. They are shit-scared that someone might make people realise it and arouse them again, this time against genuine evil. Because they know that what they do is by any standard set by humanity since the dawn of civilisation truly, genuinely evil. So they regard clinging to power as a means of survival. For that, they constantly provide people with reasons to fight each other. If they stop, the people might turn against them.

    Last, with regards to Serbia, a lot of people have taken the Chinese and Russian jabs. The rest are vaccine-skeptics. A few local celebs have been appointed to promote Pfizer's concoction but very few heeded their advice. The situation is so dire that a doctors' association has appealed on the government to silence skeptics by banning them from the media and initiating criminal charges against them, while Serbia's president Vučić has offered ~30€ to every vaccinated citizen over 16, has threatened civil servants with unpaid sick leave if they didn't show the example and has threatened the rest of us with indefinite lock-up. So far, the majority remain unswayed.

    Replies: @gsjackson

    I’m an American who 23 days ago returned to Belgrade after three months in much more relaxed Albania. I was shocked to find Serbia had gone back to making people eat and drink outside. But now that absurdity has been removed for the time being, and I’m noticing more and more people on city buses not wearing their diapers. Could it be the worm is turning?

    I want to yell at Serbs: ‘Stop taking the PCR test.’ That’s the government’s pretext for all the chicken shit, and if they don’t have “cases” they can’t justify it. But I suppose they would just make up the numbers if they had to.

    It’s good to hear your assessment. I’ve been a little disappointed in how much the Serbs have been willing to put up with so far, but to their great credit they don’t self police. No stink eyes or lectures about improper mask usage from anybody. It’s a very different population in the U.S.

    • Replies: @The Real World
    @gsjackson


    It’s a very different population in the U.S.
     
    Hold on there, gs. Since you're American, you know that this is a VAST country with very different topographies, populations, cultures, politics, etc.

    Where I live, in the Midwest, I have not experienced nor heard from anybody of anyone calling them out for not wearing masks. And we're 14 months into the diaper-wearing dictates. Most still ARE wearing them in stores but I'm seeing more who aren't, incl me, and no one says a thing.

    It's mostly the big, urban Libtard areas where that happens.

    , @Vojkan
    @gsjackson

    Well, they make up numbers all the time and president Vučić is a pathological liar. I don't trust their data on anything, let alone with regards to the covid scamdemics. They recently came out with statistics of excess deaths since the start of the crisis and the number was greater than the number of those who officially died of covid. I sometimes have the impression that we exist in parallel realities.

    The Serbian government could never impose the level of restrictions and measures as absurd as in France for instance for two reasons. The first is that the former Yugoslavia was a communist country and people in former communist countries look at what the government or the media say with a greater distance than people in the West. The second reason is the importance of the grey economy. It is harder for a state to coerce people to whom it provides very, very little.

    Anyway, I just don't get how people in France have accepted something as absurd as wearing masks outdoors. That's something you'll see where I am only if the person has forgotten to take it off. Youngsters in shopping malls often don't wear them, I've been reprimanded only once in the bank for not wearing it over my nose, the mask and eyeglasses are incompatible, and shopkeepers remind people to put them because they fear steep fines, not the coronavirus. Though there are occasional haters who seem to have as sole purpose in life to make other people's lives miserable.

    For all their faults - and they have more than their share of them -, the Serbs' attitude during the crisis is the reason why for the first time since I came from France, I am glad to be here rather than there.

    Replies: @gsjackson, @gsjackson, @Commentator Mike

  • @Mulga Mumblebrain
    @Levtraro

    A similar situation exists in Austfailia with compulsory superannuation. 9% of salaries are placed in super, and the 'industry' funds, run in part by unions, have been very successful in growing these moneys, with minimal fees. The private funds, run by various bankster and other financial parasites, in contrast, have been hot-beds of theft by larcenous fees etc.
    Naturally, the hard Right Federal regime hates the industry funds, and does everything it can to harm them, usually led by one of the Cabinet 'female' Harpies who are even more loathsome than the males, a scarcely conceivable situation. As ALWAYS, it is the parasites' political servants aka 'the Right', 'conservatives' and, here, 'the Liberals', sucking as much blood from the serfs as possible, and transferring it to the bludger class. The average Ocker being a brain-dead, greedy, vacuole, the vampirism is rampant.

    Replies: @Anon

    Ha! Yeah, right, another crazy scheme by that “market moron” Bob Hawke and his greedy, vampiric “capitalist” henchman Paul Keating. Funny how ordinary battler aren’t complaining about superannuation, just screeching, maladjusted, malcontents, such as yourself.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
    @Anon

    The 'ordinary battlers' are going out backwards. No pay increases for at least seven years, none in sight, jobs precarious, low paid and contingent, under-employment at record levels, housing unaffordable, inflation surging, the environment collapsing and the most Rightwing regime ever, led by a Pentecostalist thug (pardon the tautology)who WANTS climate disaster to occur so that we can all be consumed in 'The Fire', about to destroy the Disability Insurance scheme and superannuation-but the dumb-fucks, in their greed and stupidity keep voting for it, so fuck 'em all, I say. Oh, and ditto for you, with knobs on.

  • F. A. Hayek (credibly) denied being Jewish. I’d be interested in your source, Steven Yates.

  • @Malla
    @anon


    Both Vietnam and the Philippines have their conflict with China
     
    Exactly my point. Just because they have conflicts with China does not make them servants of YT.

    As far as QUAD, India joined the QUAD only because of China. Simple as that. But now the QUAD seems to be falling apart thanks to Joe Biden backstabbing India.

    India is different.
     
    Indians believe that China has continuously backstabed their nation and acts like an imperial bully and recently attacked Indian soldiers at Galwan (not my personal view). Due to nationalism and national pride, they post like this.

    Replies: @anon, @Mulga Mumblebrain

    thanks to Joe Biden backstabbing India.

    How did Joe Biden backstab India? Why do you think the QUAD is falling apart?

    I think Modi is perfectly capable of looking out for India’s interest in the geopolitical games.

    • Replies: @Malla
    @anon

    This is an interesting discussion in about the situation India is now in. In between Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (yellow T-shirt) and Abhinav Prakash (guy with glasses or spectacles)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG9kwII6XHQ
    Vaccine Embargo by Biden Administration - Abhijit Iyer-Mitra on Urban Chatterati
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra and Abhinav Prakash from 0:40 minutes to 2:30 minutes discuss about how the Biden administration are deliberately sabotaging vaccine manufacturing in India. For the Novavax vaccine not the CoviShield being currently being produced. Thus India gets Sputnik from Russia. They are unintentionally by trying to screw India, are doing India a favour.
    Abhinav Prakash: Biden administration seems worse than Trump.....
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (2:49 minutes:) Trump did not behave very badly. If we (India) needed help, the help was usually sent.With Biden, with all his talk about globalism you know, we are all going to hold hands and sing Kumbaya. It is a good lesson for Indians who voted Democrat in America, secretly I am hoping that something happens to their family members as well in this particular wave. It says a lot about the complete cluelessness of most of the foreign policy commenteriat and the so called self proclaimed "responsible informed" commenteriat saying that Biden would better for globalism and all that. Which is proven to be absolute RUBBISH. Across the board. Because remember this isn't the first. The US Navy was conducting freedom of navigation operations for the last 10 years, India never really gave a damn. Why? Because our extended zones are intended specifically for China. They are not intended for harassment or bullying of everyone and anyone. And it is been done specifically because China is doing certain things so it is a kind of reciprocal threat that if you can do that, we can do that with the Malacca Straits and things like that. So, why did the US navy feel the need to announce it publicly after 10 years? It makes no sense. You are conducting freedom of navigation operations, you are not being challenged, why did you go and have to announce it often all of a sudden. And notice whichever countries that they named, South Korea, Maldives and India. You remember, I was telling you that this man's (Biden) son is so compromised to China, his (Biden's) actions will not directly help China, they will indirectly help China. So he has effectively put all American allies in the same plank as China!! ""You are really no different from China anymore." It is the same thing with vaccines now. Essentially what he is doing is he is saying "you may be an ally but America first". In which case, what is the point of being an ally? So.. that is perfectly fine. In this last 3 to 4 months, Biden has done damage, actual damage to the American alliance system what Trump was claimed to have done in the last four years. It is a valid statement, it is a statistically supported statement.
    Abhinav Prakash (7:33 minutes): They are not helping anyone, it is not just India, they are not helping countries in their neighbourhood. What does it tell about America and its current administration? Vice pResident seems to be running the show!!
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (7:51 minutes): Look, the Vice President maybe be running the show but even she is really a puppet. Biden is basically a walking cadaver, he has one foot in the coffin. we do not know if he is alive or dead and when he is going to die. Now that being the case, you have to understand it is a whole a very very powerful bunch of Democrat party interests running the Government and those Democrat party interests are further controlled by corporate interests...... It is a lot of corporate interests that seem to align at the same time. For example in case of CAATSA sanctions, Boeing and Lockheed Martin would be thinking, look this is one good way of ensuring we get more sales in India and kick the Russians out of the Indian market. It would be Pfizer telling their kept senators and their purchased Congressmen, if you do this they (India) would be forced to buy our vaccines at a certain price.....Never attribute to malice what you can to stupidity. When your president is basically a walking cadaver, Vice President (Kamala Harris) is so compromised to Corporate Interests and his son (Biden) is so compromised to foreign interests, we don't really know if the US Govt is being controlled. Look at the mess they have at their southern border. POLITICO actually had ban its staff to refer about the Southern border crisis, none of them are sending their reporters or even screaming at the fact that they are are not being allowed to send their reporters. Could you imagine this have happened under Trump?
    Abhinav Prakash: (Laughing) No of course Not.
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra: So there you go

    ...

    Abhinav Prakash (12:00 minutes) This brings to this hypocrisy of the people who pretend to be outraged at the misery of the people, this entire woke culture. What happened to the wokes in America? Why are they not on the streets and saying "Asian lives do matter". "You help the other countries. what happened to these people in NYT and Washington Post? Why is there no cover story that America is the greatest horder of live saving drugs in the world?
    Abhijit Iyer-Mitra (12:28 minutes): (Smiling) Because it was never about principles. Look, all these so called revolutionary movements are always about some smart manipulator who is able to manipulate a whole bunch of zombies. Tell me one revolution which did not happen on the back of zombie. I do not mean movie style Zombies but using it figuratively. But that is what BLM, anti-fa and all these movements ARE. They are essentially low IQ stupid people, foot soldiers who are cynically manipulated....Leadership is screwing people and make them enjoy the process of getting screwed over.

    Replies: @Malla

  • Malla says:
    @anon
    @Malla



    Turkey cuts off water supplies to Chinese embassy
     
    Fake news. A utility company worked nearby the Chinese embassy and wasn't even close to the building. Somehow some media made up and reported such a bizarre story.


    Philippine Foreign Secretary Teddy Locsin’s recent tweet
     
    Teddy Locsin already apologized.


    Vietnam stands up to China
     
    Both Vietnam and the Philippines have their conflict with China over the disputed waters. But that is not something new. The disagreement goes way back to when Vietnam was colonized by France and the Philippines by Spain. The recent spat is very much under control. In reality, Vietnam and the Philippines have a much better relationship with China than you think. Vietnam has been sending its party (CPV)members and bureaucrats to study with the CPC, and the commercial ties between the two countries have been increasing every year. The Philippines have been getting a lot of investments and aids from China.


    "Vietnam has made positive comments on its ties with China during Chinese State Councilor and Minister of National Defense Wei Fenghe's visit to the country, stressing that Vietnam will never follow other countries to oppose China. "


    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202104/1222213.shtml

    "China and Vietnam have agreed to work together to improve trust amid simmering tensions between the two neighbours over their territorial claims in the South China Sea."


    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3131002/china-vietnam-agree-boost-trust-amid-south-china-sea-tensions


    "China emerges as PH’s most important source of investments"

    Read more: https://business.inquirer.net/313538/china-emerges-as-phs-most-important-source-of-investments#ixzz6uN72qFJS

    https://business.inquirer.net/313538/china-emerges-as-phs-most-important-source-of-investments#:~:text=Citing%20Philippine%20government%20data%2C%20UOB,special%20administrative%20region%20of%20China.

    India is different. Maybe being a member of the QUAD will work out for India.
    https://twitter.com/Tom_Fowdy/status/1390923816595910659

    Replies: @Malla

    Both Vietnam and the Philippines have their conflict with China

    Exactly my point. Just because they have conflicts with China does not make them servants of YT.

    As far as QUAD, India joined the QUAD only because of China. Simple as that. But now the QUAD seems to be falling apart thanks to Joe Biden backstabbing India.

    India is different.

    Indians believe that China has continuously backstabed their nation and acts like an imperial bully and recently attacked Indian soldiers at Galwan (not my personal view). Due to nationalism and national pride, they post like this.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Malla


    thanks to Joe Biden backstabbing India.
     
    How did Joe Biden backstab India? Why do you think the QUAD is falling apart?

    I think Modi is perfectly capable of looking out for India's interest in the geopolitical games.

    Replies: @Malla

    , @Mulga Mumblebrain
    @Malla

    Indian Hindutva rags were full of boastful Hindutva thugs bragging of setting China up on the border. Such little displays of Indian martial valour are about all the failing state has going for it-to impress the White Bosses. Meanwhile the Chinese are rushing equipment to India, particularly oxygen compressors, to aid the failing state battle a pandemic that Modi and his henchmen mishandled categorically.

    Replies: @Malla

  • @gatobart
    Don't waste your time. I said I won't answer any more of your krap, I'm not even reading it anymore and I think everyone else in this blog should do the same, at least those who demand to be treated with respect by others and who are not used to being called "idiotic diseased monkeys" but some entity who certainly seems to be exactly that.

    Replies: @Malla

    I said I won’t answer any more of your

    You can’t. You do not have answers.

    seems to be exactly that.

    Wrong as usual.

  • @Alden
    @Boss Hogg

    Thanks, I’ll check out the reviews. Maybe it will be able to explain how a poor country could afford to buy all those slaves and indentured servants right off the docks.

    Replies: @Boss Hogg

    The american slave trade was run by the jews from england. Only two per cent of americans owned slaves, 40% of those were jews. Same jews who ran the coolie slave trade in shanghai. The american slave narkets were all jewish owned. Obviosly the jews who write and publish our history books and run our schools try to suppress this but you can verify this yourself with a little digging. The jews brought their slave trade and capital to the usa but the non elite whites lived a subsistence life until cspitalism created the middle class.

  • @Skeptikal
    @Boss Hogg

    I have wondered where in Chile Whitney Webb lives, and why or how she ended up there.

    I perhaps naively thought that as a fearless investigative reporter she would be safer there than in the USA.

    How do you know that she has moved to England?

    Replies: @Boss Hogg

    Unlimitedhangout.com
    Her website and blog. You can follow her there, now.

  • eah says:

    Never before had I observed, from the inside, a neoliberal political economy first lose credibility as its scams were found out and challenged …

    Of course the US has more or less the same ‘scams’, but as (still) the world’s preeminent hegemonic power the US can create as much of its currency as it wants in order to postpone a similar loss of ‘credibility’ — I mean, the trillions for COVID stimulus weren’t found under grandma’s mattress — in this sense, perhaps the rubes in the US are dumber than their counterparts in Chile, failing to recognize the ‘scam’ and their status as chattel even when these trillions are added to the national debt for them, their children, grandchildren, etc to pay interest on, basically forever.

  • anon[389] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Here comes Mulga the idiot monkey and his smelly farts.


    The Chinese have bent over backwards to accommodate them
     
    This is one thing you got correct, I agree. I feel sad for the disspointment the Chinese side has got But remember it is China who made India its enemy in 1950s by acting like an asshole and treating newly independent revolutionary India as its enemy. Karma is a bitch.

    the glorious West actually likes them and treats them as ‘honorary Whites’.
     
    The Indian elites do not want to be honorary Whites. Stop spewing the same bullshit. Get your head out of your diseased ass. Opposing China does not make one a slave of Whitey. India looks at China like an imperialist country. Secondly India does not trust the USA completely. Indeed Joe Biden, lackey of China is trying to destroy the QUAD for his Chinese masters.

    Hindutva fascism
     
    Hindutva is Indian Nationalism at its purest, if you do not understand this you understand nothing. The world does not run according to the wishes of China. CHINA IS NOT INDIA's MASTER. You are not middle Kingdom anymore. Hindutva is at its core an ANTI-WESTERN movement. A super DECOLONISATION movement. BTW I do not support Hindutva. And I support good Indo-China relations. But I am not going to tolerate bullshit.
    The World is not CHina vs the West or Communism vs West. It is much more complicated but that is beyond simpletons like you or gatofart.

    Is Turkey a slave of Whitey?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_94BtTVxo4
    Turkey cuts off water supplies to Chinese embassy
    Is Philippines a slave of Whitey?
    https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/d8/images/methode/2021/05/05/4096c93c-ac11-11eb-9c9f-63ba12e765d1_972x_000135.JPG
    Philippine Foreign Secretary Teddy Locsin's recent tweet
    Is Vietnam slave of Whitey?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfOJrIvvq7s
    Vietnam stands up to China

    Replies: @anon

    Turkey cuts off water supplies to Chinese embassy

    Fake news. A utility company worked nearby the Chinese embassy and wasn’t even close to the building. Somehow some media made up and reported such a bizarre story.

    Philippine Foreign Secretary Teddy Locsin’s recent tweet

    Teddy Locsin already apologized.

    Vietnam stands up to China

    Both Vietnam and the Philippines have their conflict with China over the disputed waters. But that is not something new. The disagreement goes way back to when Vietnam was colonized by France and the Philippines by Spain. The recent spat is very much under control. In reality, Vietnam and the Philippines have a much better relationship with China than you think. Vietnam has been sending its party (CPV)members and bureaucrats to study with the CPC, and the commercial ties between the two countries have been increasing every year. The Philippines have been getting a lot of investments and aids from China.

    “Vietnam has made positive comments on its ties with China during Chinese State Councilor and Minister of National Defense Wei Fenghe’s visit to the country, stressing that Vietnam will never follow other countries to oppose China. ”

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202104/1222213.shtml

    “China and Vietnam have agreed to work together to improve trust amid simmering tensions between the two neighbours over their territorial claims in the South China Sea.”

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3131002/china-vietnam-agree-boost-trust-amid-south-china-sea-tensions

    “China emerges as PH’s most important source of investments”

    Read more: https://business.inquirer.net/313538/china-emerges-as-phs-most-important-source-of-investments#ixzz6uN72qFJS

    https://business.inquirer.net/313538/china-emerges-as-phs-most-important-source-of-investments#:~:text=Citing%20Philippine%20government%20data%2C%20UOB,special%20administrative%20region%20of%20China.

    India is different. Maybe being a member of the QUAD will work out for India.
    https://twitter.com/Tom_Fowdy/status/1390923816595910659

    • Replies: @Malla
    @anon


    Both Vietnam and the Philippines have their conflict with China
     
    Exactly my point. Just because they have conflicts with China does not make them servants of YT.

    As far as QUAD, India joined the QUAD only because of China. Simple as that. But now the QUAD seems to be falling apart thanks to Joe Biden backstabbing India.

    India is different.
     
    Indians believe that China has continuously backstabed their nation and acts like an imperial bully and recently attacked Indian soldiers at Galwan (not my personal view). Due to nationalism and national pride, they post like this.

    Replies: @anon, @Mulga Mumblebrain

  • Don’t waste your time. I said I won’t answer any more of your krap, I’m not even reading it anymore and I think everyone else in this blog should do the same, at least those who demand to be treated with respect by others and who are not used to being called “idiotic diseased monkeys” but some entity who certainly seems to be exactly that.

    • Replies: @Malla
    @gatobart


    I said I won’t answer any more of your
     
    You can't. You do not have answers.

    seems to be exactly that.
     
    Wrong as usual.
  • Malla says:
    @gatobart
    @Arthur MacBride

    Well, your point is as foggy as they come and please, don't look for excuses berating and insulting the other part because right there is where I stop paying attention to people. Is this a regular habit in you...?

    In any case your Koch/Ukraine analogy is all wet and has no relation with the Hindu/British Empire case. Many Nazis were sympathetic to Ukrainians in their desire to break away from the Stalin regime and they warmed to the possibility of creating some client State right there that would be a precious ally in their fight against the USSR. They even integrated many Ukrainians in their military forces. Fact is, Ukrainians were pretty happy under Nazi control because they got from the Nazis the respect they wanted from people they thought were their racial kin. But Hitler crushed all these attempts at making Ukrainians feel welcome as part of the Reich because he couldn't get over his own racism against Slaves. Quite different from the traditional attitude of the British towards the Hindus and all other dark skinned races. The worst of all their own boss Winston Churchill who referred once to Hinduism as a beastly religion for beastly people and who refused to send food aid to India when they were suffering a crippling famine and who explained himself "sort of", arguing that they wouldn't be having that kind of problem if they didn't breed like rabbits. Hindus fighting for the Empire never got from the British the respect and recognition they probably deserved, and even less the general population, they were always treated with utter contempt. And so the rest of the dark skinned colonials. Even the much vaunted for their bravery gurkas fighting in the Falklands in 1982 were abandoned later as war vets. On the other hand, many of those fighting with the Nazis in Europe during WW2 felt they were being treated as brothers in arms and respected as such by the Germans. That is why your analogy is confusing.

    Replies: @Malla

    Hindus fighting for the Empire never got from the British the respect and recognition they probably deserved, and even less the general population, they were always treated with utter contempt.

    ghettofart, do some research before you fart.
    The India Gate (formerly known as the All India War Memorial) is a war memorial located astride the Rajpath (Kingsway), on the eastern edge of the “ceremonial axis” of New Delhi. It stands as a memorial to 70,000 soldiers of the British Indian Army who died in between 1914 and 1921 in the First World War, in France, Flanders, Mesopotamia, Persia, East Africa, Gallipoli and elsewhere in the Near and the Far East, and the third Anglo-Afghan War. 13,300 servicemen’s names, both of British and Indian origins, common soldiers and officers, are inscribed on the gate. Designed by Sir Edwin Lutyens, the gate evokes the architectural style of the triumphal arch such as the Arch of Constantine, in Rome, and is often compared to the Arc de Triomphe in Paris, and the Gateway of India in Mumbai.

    The India Gate was part of the work of the Imperial War Graves Commission (IWGC), which came into existence in December 1917 during the British Raj for building war graves and memorials to soldiers of the Royal Indian Army who were killed in the First World War. The foundation stone of the gate, then called the All India War Memorial, was laid on 10 February 1921, at 16:30, by the visiting Duke of Connaught in a ceremony attended by Officers and Men of the British Indian Army, Imperial Service Troops, the Commander in Chief, and Chelmsford, the viceroy. On the occasion, the viceroy is reported to have said, “The stirring tales of individual heroism, will live forever in the annals of this country”, and that the memorial which was a tribute to the memory of heroes, “known and unknown”, would inspire future generations to endure hardships with similar fortitude and “no less valour”. The Duke also read out a message by the King, which said, “On this spot, in the central vista of the Capital of India, there will stand a Memorial Archway, designed to keep”, in the thoughts of future generations, “the glorious sacrifice of the officers and men of the British Indian Army who fought and fell”. During the ceremony, the Deccan Horse, 3rd Sappers and Miners, 6th Jat Light Infantry, 34th Sikh Pioneers, 39th Garhwal Rifles, 59th Scinde Rifles (Frontier Force), 117th Mahrattas, and 5th Gurkha Rifles (Frontier Force), were honoured with the title of “Royal” in recognition of the distinguished services and gallantry of the British Indian Army during the Great War”.

    Ten years after the foundation stone laying ceremony, on 12 February 1931, the memorial was inaugurated by Lord Irwin, who on the occasion said “those who after us shall look upon this monument may learn in pondering its purpose something of that sacrifice and service which the names upon its walls record.”

    The memorial in New Delhi, like the Cenotaph in London, is a secular memorial, free of religious and “culturally-specific iconography such as crosses”. Lutyens according to his biographer, Christopher Hussey, relied on “elemental mode”, a style of commemoration based on “universal architectural style free of religious ornamentation”.

    Inscriptions
    The cornice of the India Gate is inscribed with the Imperial suns while both sides of the arch have INDIA, flanked by the dates MCMXIV (‘1914’; on the left) and MCMXIX (‘1919’; on the right). Below the word INDIA, in capital letters, is inscribed:

    TO THE DEAD OF THE INDIAN ARMIES WHO FELL AND ARE HONOURED IN FRANCE AND FLANDERS MESOPOTAMIA AND PERSIA EAST AFRICA GALLIPOLI AND ELSEWHERE IN THE NEAR AND THE FAR-EAST AND IN SACRED MEMORY ALSO OF THOSE WHOSE NAMES ARE HERE RECORDED AND WHO FELL IN INDIA OR THE NORTH-WEST FRONTIER AND DURING THE THIRD AFGHAN WAR

    In 2017, the India Gate was twinned with the Arch of Remembrance in Leicester, England, another Lutyens war memorial, following a very similar design but on a smaller scale. In a ceremony, India’s high commissioner to the United Kingdom laid a wreath at the arch in Leicester and the British high commissioner to India laid one at the India Gate.

    The gate, which is illuminated every evening from 19:00 to 21:30, today serves as one of Delhi’s most important tourist attractions.

  • @Fr. John
    @anon

    Disclaimer- Your Christophobia is showing... again.

    Replies: @John-Scott de Basso

    You sound like a crypto-academic or a music teacher pretending to be an orthodox priest. ;). Anathemaizing people on the internets like a big ol tough guy? That’s rich.

  • Malla says:
    @gatobart
    @HbutnotG

    "In the 1920’s, Hunkies were the Mexicans du jour"

    Who the Heck are the Hunkies...? I googled it and came out with this'

    hunk·y:

    large, strong, and sexually attractive (typically used of a man).

    Uh, that would have been quite a sight to behold. The U.S. being invaded by a crowd of of big, strong, sexually attractive men.

    Replies: @Malla, @HbutnotG

    The U.S. being invaded by a crowd of of big, strong, sexually attractive men.

    You know what would also be a sight to behold. Millions of macho mustachioed Asian Indian men invading Latin America (where the women are slutty anyways) looking for “bobs and vagenes”. LMFAO. 1.4 billion people of us, 700 million men to spare. It is a competitive sausagefest out here.

  • Malla says:
    @Malla
    @Malla


    Including bringing Castro to power.
     
    An interview with Mr. Earl T. Smith, American Ambassador to Cuba in between 1957 and 1959.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pINcfBNZQiA
    US Government Brought Fidel Castro to Power (Full Documentary)

    A rare detailed account of the Communist takeover of Cuba and America’s role in Fidel Castro’s dictatorship. Former US Ambassador to Cuba, Earl T. Smith is interviewed and reveals the State Department’s involvement in violation of neutrality laws, supporting a known communist with a documented history of violent criminal behavior, and committing high treason by deliberately aiding an enemy of the United States and concealing a clear and imminent threat to our national security. This conspiracy against the citizens of Cuba has cost thousands of lives, devastated families, and has left the dispossessed Cubans stateless and destitute. It is a deliberate case of economic and cultural genocide that merits investigation and restitution. Please watch, share and expose. Smith also details this collusion in his book, “The Fourth Floor”, a curiously hard to find book he wrote in 1962 “as a footnote to history and to the science of government”. He added “I am convinced that my experience as the United States Ambassador to Cuba was unusual in the sense that I lived through the Castro Communist Revolution, and I feel that I owe it to the American people to try to establish the fact that the Castro Communist Revolution need never have occurred. From this experience, i learned not only that our techniques of relations with Cuba were faulty but that the modus operandi for the determination of policy is not only inadequate but dangerous to the defense of our country”

    Batista was their guy too but he was backstabbed just like the backstab done to the Chinese Nationalists in favour of Mao. Even Stalin did not want a 100% Communist mainland China but 50% Communist 50% Capitalist mainland China like Korea or Vietnam (The USSR after the war did not have the resources to support a 100% Communist China just after the War according to the pragmatic Stalin) but the Rockefellars insisted upon him for a 100% Communist China

    Mr Smith openly states that in general the United States has always preferred to support the spread of Left Winged dictators over Right Winged dictators because the lefties are considered more progressive. (a dubious term, progressing towards what? A One World dictatorship, a New World Order?) The U.S. Government have supported right winged dictators in the past too, when the situation suited them but they by default they prefer lefty dictators.

    What is also interesting is that the wider Jewish Castro family had been big time players in the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade of Africans, centuries ago, as per Prof. Tony Martin.

    Replies: @Malla, @789

    And as commentator S had posted once here

    “The US state department, or what passed for it in the early days, has often been involved in support of Communist intrigue and revolution, indeed, was involved in the creation of Communism itself at the time of the French Revolution. [And when the situation has warrented, the State Department has been involved in Capitalist revolution and intrigue as well, such as in South and Central America.]

    No less than Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson, as US ministers to France during the 1780’s, were quite involved in the overthrow of France’s old order and the creation of the 1789 French Revolution. This was the revolution which introduced to the world the ‘Commune’, the ‘political commissar’, ‘counter revolution’, ‘Whites’, and, the ‘Great Terror’, all of which Soviet Communism would evolve from. The revolutionary capital today, Paris, not surprisingly, has a city square named ‘Stalingrad’.

    Below is excerpted from an article from an (apparently) Masonic associated website.

    As soon as America gained her independence from Great Britain (with substantial French assistance), first Franklin and then Jefferson went on missions to France where they served as nuclei around which formed a latticework of interrelated or interconnected French revolutionary leaders, one of whom was Marie Joseph Paul Ives Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de Lafayette, who, after fighting in the American Revolution, imported revolutionary ideology into his native France under Jefferson’s guidance and inspiration.

    Products of the European Enlightenment, Franklin and Jefferson were station masters of France’s American depot, as Lafayette was an agent of the French central station trained on the American revolutionary training ground. Seeding the revolutionary cloud was not a one-sided French venture, however. On the contrary: the seedtime of the French Revolution was during Benjamin Franklin’s ministry to France–and that American was the seed-planter.

    https://www.belcherfoundation.org/trilateral_center.htm”

    This is extremely sad as without French (Monarchy) help the Americans would have found it extremely hard to defeat the British.

  • Malla says:
    @Malla
    @gatobart

    Bullshit, your fat pig hero Marx did not work a day in his life as a worker or as an entrepreneur. The guy shamelessly lived asking money from his family, treated his mentally challenged servant as a slave and maybe impregnated her, looked down upon English working class people and was a relative of the Rothchilds.

    Secondly the USA has secretly supported nearly all Communist movements in the World behind the scenes. Including bringing Castro to power. Bretton Woods, IMF, World Bank had the hands of Communist Soviet supporting Jews like Harry Dexter White. He was a Commie Lithuanian Jew and a Soviet Spy in the US Govt and was pivotal in pitting the Japanese Empire in a war with the USA (to save the USSR’s East). He was also pivotal in the Bretton Woods Conference and later IMF and World Bank. Yes a pro-Soviet spy,

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/03/14/how-a-soviet-spy-outmaneuvered-john-maynard-keynes-and-ensured-u-s-global-financial-dominance/
    How a Soviet spy outmaneuvered John Maynard Keynes to ensure U.S. financial dominance
    https://www.vox.com/2014/8/24/6057119/harry-dexter-white-ben-steil
    This Soviet spy created the US-led global economic system

    All this “Revolutionary Communist heroes” Vs evul Western Imperialists is nothing but bullshit. Both sides have been working behind the scenes from the very beginning.

    Replies: @Malla

    Including bringing Castro to power.

    An interview with Mr. Earl T. Smith, American Ambassador to Cuba in between 1957 and 1959.

    Video Link
    US Government Brought Fidel Castro to Power (Full Documentary)

    A rare detailed account of the Communist takeover of Cuba and America’s role in Fidel Castro’s dictatorship. Former US Ambassador to Cuba, Earl T. Smith is interviewed and reveals the State Department’s involvement in violation of neutrality laws, supporting a known communist with a documented history of violent criminal behavior, and committing high treason by deliberately aiding an enemy of the United States and concealing a clear and imminent threat to our national security. This conspiracy against the citizens of Cuba has cost thousands of lives, devastated families, and has left the dispossessed Cubans stateless and destitute. It is a deliberate case of economic and cultural genocide that merits investigation and restitution. Please watch, share and expose. Smith also details this collusion in his book, “The Fourth Floor”, a curiously hard to find book he wrote in 1962 “as a footnote to history and to the science of government”. He added “I am convinced that my experience as the United States Ambassador to Cuba was unusual in the sense that I lived through the Castro Communist Revolution, and I feel that I owe it to the American people to try to establish the fact that the Castro Communist Revolution need never have occurred. From this experience, i learned not only that our techniques of relations with Cuba were faulty but that the modus operandi for the determination of policy is not only inadequate but dangerous to the defense of our country”

    Batista was their guy too but he was backstabbed just like the backstab done to the Chinese Nationalists in favour of Mao. Even Stalin did not want a 100% Communist mainland China but 50% Communist 50% Capitalist mainland China like Korea or Vietnam (The USSR after the war did not have the resources to support a 100% Communist China just after the War according to the pragmatic Stalin) but the Rockefellars insisted upon him for a 100% Communist China

    Mr Smith openly states that in general the United States has always preferred to support the spread of Left Winged dictators over Right Winged dictators because the lefties are considered more progressive. (a dubious term, progressing towards what? A One World dictatorship, a New World Order?) The U.S. Government have supported right winged dictators in the past too, when the situation suited them but they by default they prefer lefty dictators.

    What is also interesting is that the wider Jewish Castro family had been big time players in the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade of Africans, centuries ago, as per Prof. Tony Martin.

    • Replies: @Malla
    @Malla

    And as commentator S had posted once here

    "The US state department, or what passed for it in the early days, has often been involved in support of Communist intrigue and revolution, indeed, was involved in the creation of Communism itself at the time of the French Revolution. [And when the situation has warrented, the State Department has been involved in Capitalist revolution and intrigue as well, such as in South and Central America.]

    No less than Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson, as US ministers to France during the 1780’s, were quite involved in the overthrow of France’s old order and the creation of the 1789 French Revolution. This was the revolution which introduced to the world the ‘Commune’, the ‘political commissar’, ‘counter revolution’, ‘Whites’, and, the ‘Great Terror’, all of which Soviet Communism would evolve from. The revolutionary capital today, Paris, not surprisingly, has a city square named ‘Stalingrad’.

    Below is excerpted from an article from an (apparently) Masonic associated website.


    As soon as America gained her independence from Great Britain (with substantial French assistance), first Franklin and then Jefferson went on missions to France where they served as nuclei around which formed a latticework of interrelated or interconnected French revolutionary leaders, one of whom was Marie Joseph Paul Ives Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de Lafayette, who, after fighting in the American Revolution, imported revolutionary ideology into his native France under Jefferson’s guidance and inspiration.

    Products of the European Enlightenment, Franklin and Jefferson were station masters of France’s American depot, as Lafayette was an agent of the French central station trained on the American revolutionary training ground. Seeding the revolutionary cloud was not a one-sided French venture, however. On the contrary: the seedtime of the French Revolution was during Benjamin Franklin’s ministry to France–and that American was the seed-planter.
     
    https://www.belcherfoundation.org/trilateral_center.htm"

    This is extremely sad as without French (Monarchy) help the Americans would have found it extremely hard to defeat the British.
    , @789
    @Malla

    If you don't have the text of "Fourth floor" I can e-mail it to you.
    There was also the Congressional hearing, Ambassador Smith testified and said the same thing

    Stanley Montieth

    There is also a Mexican (?) guy who wrote a whole book on Castro the CIA asset.

    Replies: @gatobart, @Malla

  • @HbutnotG
    @stevennonemaker88

    Just go to the 1930 US Census (and Detroit is a good place) to illustrate how WASP's (God-fearing, church-attending as they were), had a dislike of Hunkies (that's "Hunkies" - not "Honkies"). The police and fire crews were well paid - almost as much as engineers - and all had WASP names; even on the lower east side which housed numerous Hunkies. The teachers in public schools were all WASP too - and very socialist, btw, and nudged Hunky kids out of school by 8th grade any which way they could. It's important to recall, that Hunkies and WASPs looked alike - but the surnames of WASPs were their free access to high school, and those civil service jobs. Have a concerned mother speaking broken English go to your school to inquire about her kid's report card? You'd be run out of there in a year, one way or another.

    In the 1920's, Hunkies were the Mexicans du jour. Same went with Poles and Greeks. Poles poor as they were, sent their kids to parochial school if they could, just to get them into/through high school - an almost impossible feat in the public schools. My parents only alluded to what exactly was going on - but never placed blame.

    Replies: @gatobart

    “In the 1920’s, Hunkies were the Mexicans du jour”

    Who the Heck are the Hunkies…? I googled it and came out with this’

    hunk·y:

    large, strong, and sexually attractive (typically used of a man).

    Uh, that would have been quite a sight to behold. The U.S. being invaded by a crowd of of big, strong, sexually attractive men.

    • Replies: @Malla
    @gatobart


    The U.S. being invaded by a crowd of of big, strong, sexually attractive men.
     
    You know what would also be a sight to behold. Millions of macho mustachioed Asian Indian men invading Latin America (where the women are slutty anyways) looking for "bobs and vagenes". LMFAO. 1.4 billion people of us, 700 million men to spare. It is a competitive sausagefest out here.
    , @HbutnotG
    @gatobart

    The term "honkie" is an ebonic term originally coined in negro parlance for the term "Hunkie." A Hunkie was a person of Serbian, Croatian, Slovenian, Macedonian, or Hungarian birth who fled Europe before WW I - having no interest in being run by the (Germanic) Austro-Hungarian Empire which treated these people like serfs. That's how the Archduke Ferdie got killed. Once here, these immigrants even referred to themselves as "Hunkies."

    Like most other people in early to mid 20th century America, Hunkies tended to congregate in their own part of the city. Later in the century, coloreds began to mix in with Hunkies and eventually, as the familiar white people to the local coloreds, they acquired the term "Honkie" simply meaning "white person." This, term btw, began on the lower east side of Detroit. I am unaware of any other place in the country where Hunkies and coloreds mixed.

    Replies: @gatobart

  • @Levtraro
    @gatobart

    My point about Max Stirner was larger. Not that Marx borrowed some ideas from Stirner. But that Stirner had a larger, more profound vision about the evolution of societies, in which Marx's vision and his historical materialism become just a partial, incomplete understanding.

    So I thought that if you like Marx's visions, you gonna love Stirner's vision. But Stirner's ideology is a harsh mistress, so beware. Btw, there are no surviving images of Stirner, like those for Che Guevara and the other commies you mention, there is just a drawing made by Engels.

    Replies: @gatobart

    Well, now that you have stated it so clearly, I will take a look at the man and what he said or wrote. Maybe you are on to something.

  • @gatobart
    @Levtraro

    I didn't distinguish between political and ideological Marxism because I was just giving a general overview on the subject, meant above all for those who may know little or nothing about it and who would have been confused by its subtleties. I know by experience than when you introduce new people to any subject you have to provide just the basics so my way to put it I think was the most appropriate: Scientific Marxism is the best theoretical tool to explain us how we have come to this point in Human History, why society is the way it is and works the way it works. That is the Marxism which is alive and well. Most of us, if not all, are Marxists in that regard, scientific Marxists, Political Marxism is the practical tool, or the way of doing things, of those who want to change society for what they think will be the better, the common good, through their active participation in public life, in political activism, in elections, even in social revolutions. Ideological Marxism would be the bridge between both and, given Human nature, it is no surprising that, as the result of this, from SM to PM, Marxism usually branches out in many different tendencies as we witnessed during the revolutions of the post war period: Castrism, Guevarism, Maoism, Stalinism, Trostkysm and so on.

    So you are right when you say that Ideological Marxism in not scientific. How could it be, if it is the way different people interpret, not so much SM, but how they should act, what they should do, to apply it in their own particular neck of the woods, in their own society, among their own people with their own identity and their own culture? No one argues that Cuba, Venezuela or Nicaragua are very different countries from, say, North Korea or China, so their own Socialist (or Communist, for those who love the word) systems have to be different. That is why Marxist ideology can't be scientific, because it is the theoretical tool used to bridge the gap between SM and PM, i.e. to bring Marxism to the real world and make it work among people. I still remember some militants of the 60s and 70s commenting with amusement that, as the Chinese had been accustomed for millennia to have an Emperor and to blindly obeying to him, all Mao had to do was to proclaim himself their new Emperor, a Red Emperor, to assume and keep tight control of the hundreds of millions of them.

    Also, you use Newton's Laws of Motion all the time, when you are awake and working or walking the streets and even when you are sleeping in bed (you roll over when your body is pressing an arm too hard, that is gravity at work). Does that make you a Newtonian...? You are using Microsoft, does that make you a Gatesist...? So, when I say that we are all Marxists, that is simply my way to emphasize how wrong are those who babble about Marxism being dead and forgotten, my way to say to them, You are using Marxism right now, when you are pondering if you will be able to pay your bills for this month..! So the point about WS being Marxist or not, is moot, they use like the rest of us, period.

    As for this chap, Johan Kaspar Schmidt, this is the first time I hear of him--even if Mark Stirner rings a very distant bell. In any case, i remember having seen the images of Che Guevara (above all), Fidel Castro, Ho Chi Mihn, Karl Marx, Frederic Engels, Lenin and other revolutionary many, many times in my life, live and in pictures and videos, of all kinds of demonstrations and public acts but I have never seen that of Mark Stirner by any chance. This is not to demean him but simply to point out that it doesn't matter how right or accurate you may have been if nobody comes to know about you. Marx probably stole ideas from him, but that wouldn't make of Marx an exception but just another example of the general rule.

    Replies: @Levtraro

    My point about Max Stirner was larger. Not that Marx borrowed some ideas from Stirner. But that Stirner had a larger, more profound vision about the evolution of societies, in which Marx’s vision and his historical materialism become just a partial, incomplete understanding.

    So I thought that if you like Marx’s visions, you gonna love Stirner’s vision. But Stirner’s ideology is a harsh mistress, so beware. Btw, there are no surviving images of Stirner, like those for Che Guevara and the other commies you mention, there is just a drawing made by Engels.

    • Replies: @gatobart
    @Levtraro

    Well, now that you have stated it so clearly, I will take a look at the man and what he said or wrote. Maybe you are on to something.

  • Malla says:
    @gatobart
    @republic

    South Americans in general don't carry the beef Mexicans have against the gringos. (After all they stole them at gunpoint half of their country) and even less in the countries of the South Cone. For people over there the U.S, could be as far as China or Tibet.

    Replies: @Malla

    After all they stole them at gunpoint half of their country)

    The United States paid Mexico $15 million for the land which became known as the Mexican Cession.
    Pío Pico (Pío de Jesús Pico IV) , the the last governor of Alta California (Mexican California), vehemently opposed American annexation, he even supported California joining the British Empire rather than ever becoming a part of the United States.
    In 1844 he was chosen as a leader of the California Assembly. In 1845, he was again appointed governor, succeeding the unpopular Manuel Micheltorena. This occurred because, in late 1844, the Mexican province of California staged a revolt against the mother country. Micheltorena had been sent to California from Mexico, along with an army that had been recruited out of Mexico’s worst jails. He had no money to feed his army, which then spread out to people’s homes and farms “like a plague of locusts, stripping the countryside bare.” This enraged the Californians and led to widespread hatred of Micheltorena. Women were not considered safe from the depredations of Micheltorena’s army.

    Juan Bautista Alvarado, the governor who had been forcibly replaced by Micheltorena, organized a rebellion against Micheltorena. Upon learning of the impending revolt, Micheltorena appointed John Sutter to lead troops in opposition. Sutter came to John Marsh, who had one of the largest ranchos in California, hoping he would join. Marsh wanted no part of it, but Sutter forced him to join his army against his will. The two forces met in Cahuenga Pass, near Los Angeles, and fought the Battle of Providencia (also known as the Second Battle of Cahuenga Pass), which consisted primarily of an artillery duel. On the long march to the battle Marsh had taken every opportunity to dissuade the other soldiers from Micheltorena’s cause. Ignoring Sutter, Marsh seized an opportunity in the battle to signal the other side for a parley. Many of the soldiers on each side were immigrants from the United States. Marsh convinced them that they had no reason to be fighting each other. At Marsh’s urging, these soldiers on both sides united, abandoned Micheltorena’s cause, and even captured Sutter. Micheltorena was defeated, and California-born Pio Pico was returned to the governorship. Pico made Los Angeles the province’s capital. In the year leading up to the Mexican–American War, Governor Pico was outspoken in favor of California’s becoming a British Protectorate rather than a U.S. territory. By the time the proposal reached London, though, Sir Robert Peel’s Tory government, with its Little England policy, had come to power and rejected the proposal as expensive and a potential source of conflict. During the late 18th and 19th centuries,this Little England policy was followed by members of the Liberal Party who was opposed to expansion of the British Empire, as well as many traditionalist conservatives who wanted England to extend no farther than the borders of the United Kingdom. The term was also used for English people who saw the British Empire’s colonies as economically burdensome and wanted them to be granted independence as quickly as possible.
    Economically burdensome eh?
    Yeah so much for pirates and empire and looting and commie propaganda.

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
  • @stevennonemaker88
    @Greg S.


    It’s the same all over the world. This has been a big eye-opener for me as well from the pandemic: totalitarians are pretty much always on the left.
     
    I think one issue with statements such as this is how you define right and left. Even the binary idea of right and left is FAR too oversimplified to do reality any justice. Are republican voting, Zionist Christians who support the patriot act and the war on terror on the right? if so, then your statement is false. What about the boot lickers who identify as conservatives?

    Are Latin Americans who are highly religious Christians, Anti abortion and anti homo, and have large families, but also have communal farm land south of the border and vote democrat for the perceived immigration policy left wing or right wing?

    In America, conservative protestants are considered almost synonymous with the right wing. If you doubt the tyranny of which protestants are capable, look no further than the laws that the puritans established in the new world. Not that their is so much wrong with Protestantism per se, but it is a fact that all men are flawed, and any human institution or ideology can be corrupted.

    You see, the whole right vs left spectrum is really a fraud and is oversimplified, binary foolishness.

    Replies: @Munga Bulga, @Greg S., @HbutnotG

    Just go to the 1930 US Census (and Detroit is a good place) to illustrate how WASP’s (God-fearing, church-attending as they were), had a dislike of Hunkies (that’s “Hunkies” – not “Honkies”). The police and fire crews were well paid – almost as much as engineers – and all had WASP names; even on the lower east side which housed numerous Hunkies. The teachers in public schools were all WASP too – and very socialist, btw, and nudged Hunky kids out of school by 8th grade any which way they could. It’s important to recall, that Hunkies and WASPs looked alike – but the surnames of WASPs were their free access to high school, and those civil service jobs. Have a concerned mother speaking broken English go to your school to inquire about her kid’s report card? You’d be run out of there in a year, one way or another.

    In the 1920’s, Hunkies were the Mexicans du jour. Same went with Poles and Greeks. Poles poor as they were, sent their kids to parochial school if they could, just to get them into/through high school – an almost impossible feat in the public schools. My parents only alluded to what exactly was going on – but never placed blame.

    • Replies: @gatobart
    @HbutnotG

    "In the 1920’s, Hunkies were the Mexicans du jour"

    Who the Heck are the Hunkies...? I googled it and came out with this'

    hunk·y:

    large, strong, and sexually attractive (typically used of a man).

    Uh, that would have been quite a sight to behold. The U.S. being invaded by a crowd of of big, strong, sexually attractive men.

    Replies: @Malla, @HbutnotG

  • Malla says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain
    @gatobart

    Excellent. The Indian ruling class are beyond useless. The Chinese have bent over backwards to accommodate them, but all they get is gobs of spittle in their faces from deluded clowns who think that the glorious West actually likes them and treats them as 'honorary Whites'. The laughable chimaera of 'India surpassing China' now being just a sad, sick, joke. they have been chosen, instead, to act as sacrificial lambs in military aggressions. Very sad, as many Indians, if freed of Hindutva fascism, caste malignancy and 'democrazy' could create wonders. For a start I'd put the admirable Sikhs in charge of economic policy and rural poverty reduction and empowerment. The Brahmins would hate that.

    Replies: @Malla

    Here comes Mulga the idiot monkey and his smelly farts.

    The Chinese have bent over backwards to accommodate them

    This is one thing you got correct, I agree. I feel sad for the disspointment the Chinese side has got But remember it is China who made India its enemy in 1950s by acting like an asshole and treating newly independent revolutionary India as its enemy. Karma is a bitch.

    the glorious West actually likes them and treats them as ‘honorary Whites’.

    The Indian elites do not want to be honorary Whites. Stop spewing the same bullshit. Get your head out of your diseased ass. Opposing China does not make one a slave of Whitey. India looks at China like an imperialist country. Secondly India does not trust the USA completely. Indeed Joe Biden, lackey of China is trying to destroy the QUAD for his Chinese masters.

    Hindutva fascism

    Hindutva is Indian Nationalism at its purest, if you do not understand this you understand nothing. The world does not run according to the wishes of China. CHINA IS NOT INDIA’s MASTER. You are not middle Kingdom anymore. Hindutva is at its core an ANTI-WESTERN movement. A super DECOLONISATION movement. BTW I do not support Hindutva. And I support good Indo-China relations. But I am not going to tolerate bullshit.
    The World is not CHina vs the West or Communism vs West. It is much more complicated but that is beyond simpletons like you or gatofart.

    Is Turkey a slave of Whitey?

    Video Link
    Turkey cuts off water supplies to Chinese embassy
    Is Philippines a slave of Whitey?

    Philippine Foreign Secretary Teddy Locsin’s recent tweet
    Is Vietnam slave of Whitey?

    Video Link
    Vietnam stands up to China

    • Replies: @anon
    @Malla



    Turkey cuts off water supplies to Chinese embassy
     
    Fake news. A utility company worked nearby the Chinese embassy and wasn't even close to the building. Somehow some media made up and reported such a bizarre story.


    Philippine Foreign Secretary Teddy Locsin’s recent tweet
     
    Teddy Locsin already apologized.


    Vietnam stands up to China
     
    Both Vietnam and the Philippines have their conflict with China over the disputed waters. But that is not something new. The disagreement goes way back to when Vietnam was colonized by France and the Philippines by Spain. The recent spat is very much under control. In reality, Vietnam and the Philippines have a much better relationship with China than you think. Vietnam has been sending its party (CPV)members and bureaucrats to study with the CPC, and the commercial ties between the two countries have been increasing every year. The Philippines have been getting a lot of investments and aids from China.


    "Vietnam has made positive comments on its ties with China during Chinese State Councilor and Minister of National Defense Wei Fenghe's visit to the country, stressing that Vietnam will never follow other countries to oppose China. "


    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202104/1222213.shtml

    "China and Vietnam have agreed to work together to improve trust amid simmering tensions between the two neighbours over their territorial claims in the South China Sea."


    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3131002/china-vietnam-agree-boost-trust-amid-south-china-sea-tensions


    "China emerges as PH’s most important source of investments"

    Read more: https://business.inquirer.net/313538/china-emerges-as-phs-most-important-source-of-investments#ixzz6uN72qFJS

    https://business.inquirer.net/313538/china-emerges-as-phs-most-important-source-of-investments#:~:text=Citing%20Philippine%20government%20data%2C%20UOB,special%20administrative%20region%20of%20China.

    India is different. Maybe being a member of the QUAD will work out for India.
    https://twitter.com/Tom_Fowdy/status/1390923816595910659

    Replies: @Malla

  • @republic
    @gatobart

    It is an insult when used by Mexicans

    Replies: @gatobart

    South Americans in general don’t carry the beef Mexicans have against the gringos. (After all they stole them at gunpoint half of their country) and even less in the countries of the South Cone. For people over there the U.S, could be as far as China or Tibet.

    • Replies: @Malla
    @gatobart


    After all they stole them at gunpoint half of their country)
     
    The United States paid Mexico $15 million for the land which became known as the Mexican Cession.
    Pío Pico (Pío de Jesús Pico IV) , the the last governor of Alta California (Mexican California), vehemently opposed American annexation, he even supported California joining the British Empire rather than ever becoming a part of the United States.
    In 1844 he was chosen as a leader of the California Assembly. In 1845, he was again appointed governor, succeeding the unpopular Manuel Micheltorena. This occurred because, in late 1844, the Mexican province of California staged a revolt against the mother country. Micheltorena had been sent to California from Mexico, along with an army that had been recruited out of Mexico’s worst jails. He had no money to feed his army, which then spread out to people’s homes and farms “like a plague of locusts, stripping the countryside bare.” This enraged the Californians and led to widespread hatred of Micheltorena. Women were not considered safe from the depredations of Micheltorena’s army.

    Juan Bautista Alvarado, the governor who had been forcibly replaced by Micheltorena, organized a rebellion against Micheltorena. Upon learning of the impending revolt, Micheltorena appointed John Sutter to lead troops in opposition. Sutter came to John Marsh, who had one of the largest ranchos in California, hoping he would join. Marsh wanted no part of it, but Sutter forced him to join his army against his will. The two forces met in Cahuenga Pass, near Los Angeles, and fought the Battle of Providencia (also known as the Second Battle of Cahuenga Pass), which consisted primarily of an artillery duel. On the long march to the battle Marsh had taken every opportunity to dissuade the other soldiers from Micheltorena’s cause. Ignoring Sutter, Marsh seized an opportunity in the battle to signal the other side for a parley. Many of the soldiers on each side were immigrants from the United States. Marsh convinced them that they had no reason to be fighting each other. At Marsh’s urging, these soldiers on both sides united, abandoned Micheltorena’s cause, and even captured Sutter. Micheltorena was defeated, and California-born Pio Pico was returned to the governorship. Pico made Los Angeles the province's capital. In the year leading up to the Mexican–American War, Governor Pico was outspoken in favor of California's becoming a British Protectorate rather than a U.S. territory. By the time the proposal reached London, though, Sir Robert Peel's Tory government, with its Little England policy, had come to power and rejected the proposal as expensive and a potential source of conflict. During the late 18th and 19th centuries,this Little England policy was followed by members of the Liberal Party who was opposed to expansion of the British Empire, as well as many traditionalist conservatives who wanted England to extend no farther than the borders of the United Kingdom. The term was also used for English people who saw the British Empire's colonies as economically burdensome and wanted them to be granted independence as quickly as possible.
    Economically burdensome eh?
    Yeah so much for pirates and empire and looting and commie propaganda.

  • @Levtraro
    @gatobart

    In your comment 278 you didn't distinguish between ideological and political Marxism, you just said we are all Marxists, Marxism is alive, Wall Street practices Marxism, etc.

    Ok, so now you say that ideological Marxism is alive and kicking while political Marxism had come short of accomplishments after over a century of trying.

    Regarding ideological Marxism, first, it is certainly not scientific (as in a scientific discipline) but it could be interpreted as a scientific hypothesis about the evolution of human societies. There is some merit in the analysis of history by Marx. I guess I could admit that he saw a significant part of the social dynamics by highlighting the importance of the appropriation of the surplus from productive activities. He saw something that was happening and he argued that that something was determinant: the appropriation of the surplus. Wall Street actually seeks to appropriate all the surpluses it can lands her hands on. Does that make Wall Street Marxist? Answering yes is a logical error. The fact that Marx highlighted the importance of surplus appropriation does not make Marxists of those that during all of history have been appropriating the surpluses.

    From that time, the times of Marx and the Young Hegelians, of all the freien meeting at Hippel's wineshop in Berlin, the one that saw deeper, much deeper than Marx and Engels, the one that had a vision se profound that it contained Marx's vision as a particular case and as partial understanding, as well as those of the liberals and social democrats, was Johan Kaspar Schmidt, whose penname was Max Stirner. After reading Stirner's book, Marx reacted strongly and adapted his theories but Marx also was shocked by noting that Stirner's view was much deeper than his own so in The German Ideology he and Engels often resorts to cheap shots, ad hominem and plain insults instead of reasoned arguments.

    Regarding political Marxism, the success of the CCP, raising hundred of millions from poverty in China, and the industrilization of the Soviet Union and her success in several highly technical areas, means that Marxists can really achieve great things when they are not fanatical orcs.

    Yes you are right that class struggle is happening, it is happening all the time, it happens when anybody takes a job and accepts a salary thus giving away the surplus to the owner. What I meant is that class struggle is not currently having much impact on the evolution of societies. There are no class-struggle motivated revolutions, at least no capitalist country seems to be headed in that direction.

    Replies: @gatobart

    I didn’t distinguish between political and ideological Marxism because I was just giving a general overview on the subject, meant above all for those who may know little or nothing about it and who would have been confused by its subtleties. I know by experience than when you introduce new people to any subject you have to provide just the basics so my way to put it I think was the most appropriate: Scientific Marxism is the best theoretical tool to explain us how we have come to this point in Human History, why society is the way it is and works the way it works. That is the Marxism which is alive and well. Most of us, if not all, are Marxists in that regard, scientific Marxists, Political Marxism is the practical tool, or the way of doing things, of those who want to change society for what they think will be the better, the common good, through their active participation in public life, in political activism, in elections, even in social revolutions. Ideological Marxism would be the bridge between both and, given Human nature, it is no surprising that, as the result of this, from SM to PM, Marxism usually branches out in many different tendencies as we witnessed during the revolutions of the post war period: Castrism, Guevarism, Maoism, Stalinism, Trostkysm and so on.

    So you are right when you say that Ideological Marxism in not scientific. How could it be, if it is the way different people interpret, not so much SM, but how they should act, what they should do, to apply it in their own particular neck of the woods, in their own society, among their own people with their own identity and their own culture? No one argues that Cuba, Venezuela or Nicaragua are very different countries from, say, North Korea or China, so their own Socialist (or Communist, for those who love the word) systems have to be different. That is why Marxist ideology can’t be scientific, because it is the theoretical tool used to bridge the gap between SM and PM, i.e. to bring Marxism to the real world and make it work among people. I still remember some militants of the 60s and 70s commenting with amusement that, as the Chinese had been accustomed for millennia to have an Emperor and to blindly obeying to him, all Mao had to do was to proclaim himself their new Emperor, a Red Emperor, to assume and keep tight control of the hundreds of millions of them.

    Also, you use Newton’s Laws of Motion all the time, when you are awake and working or walking the streets and even when you are sleeping in bed (you roll over when your body is pressing an arm too hard, that is gravity at work). Does that make you a Newtonian…? You are using Microsoft, does that make you a Gatesist…? So, when I say that we are all Marxists, that is simply my way to emphasize how wrong are those who babble about Marxism being dead and forgotten, my way to say to them, You are using Marxism right now, when you are pondering if you will be able to pay your bills for this month..! So the point about WS being Marxist or not, is moot, they use like the rest of us, period.

    As for this chap, Johan Kaspar Schmidt, this is the first time I hear of him–even if Mark Stirner rings a very distant bell. In any case, i remember having seen the images of Che Guevara (above all), Fidel Castro, Ho Chi Mihn, Karl Marx, Frederic Engels, Lenin and other revolutionary many, many times in my life, live and in pictures and videos, of all kinds of demonstrations and public acts but I have never seen that of Mark Stirner by any chance. This is not to demean him but simply to point out that it doesn’t matter how right or accurate you may have been if nobody comes to know about you. Marx probably stole ideas from him, but that wouldn’t make of Marx an exception but just another example of the general rule.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
    @gatobart

    My point about Max Stirner was larger. Not that Marx borrowed some ideas from Stirner. But that Stirner had a larger, more profound vision about the evolution of societies, in which Marx's vision and his historical materialism become just a partial, incomplete understanding.

    So I thought that if you like Marx's visions, you gonna love Stirner's vision. But Stirner's ideology is a harsh mistress, so beware. Btw, there are no surviving images of Stirner, like those for Che Guevara and the other commies you mention, there is just a drawing made by Engels.

    Replies: @gatobart

  • Malla says:
    @gatobart
    @BlackFlag

    Financial capitalism uses Marxism in order to push for further global integration,

    Wow, I finally found someone who said it. I have always been astounded at the incredible naivete and ignorance of those self-professed anti-Communists who keep babbling about Marxism being dead, about Marxism being wrong, about Marxism being a wacky and unrealistic theory which has no place in the modern world anyway. blah, blah, blah and I have felt at the time the impulse to tell them the truth, but then I sigh and just say to myself, why, why waste my time with people who don't know their own backside from their elbow. But anyway, what I would say to them is: Fools! Marxism is more alive than ever! In fact Marxism is the most popular economic doctrine at this day and age, In fact Wall Street is the most important user of Marxism! We are all Marxists! And then I would explain to them that the main and crucial contribution of Karl Marx to mankind is the idea, or the realization, that the basis for the entire human society is the economy, the goods and services Man produces and provides to others to make possible the existence of such society. And even more important, the way he produces them. That is what Marx himself called the infrastructure, upon it everything else., politics, religion, culture in general, rests, everything. Because see, until then. the mid-1840s, philosophers of History (which he appropriately denounced as nothing more than propagandists of the established order ("The dominant ideology is the ideology of the dominant class, the elite") attributed Historic facts to every possible cause they could imagine, specially wars and revolutions ("This war here happened because King Bob hated Queen Mafalda", "This other war happened because some prince from A kidnapped some chick from kingdom B", etc) But then came Marx and said, like the Clinton campaign of 1992, "No, no, no! It's all about the economy stupids!" He proceeded them to savage and ridiculed them in his little book titled The Misery of Philosophy one which everyone should read just to enjoy the humor in it. At one point for example he ridicules the "rebels", the self declared opposition of his time, the fake dissenters who we use to call nowadays controlled opposition (are you listening, Alex Jones...?) which he said think of themselves as raging wolves roaring and terrorizing with their roars the tenants of the establishment when in fact they are nothing more than docile sheep bleating hopelessly, huddled at the center of the enclosure where their masters keep them captives. In any case, to wrap up, some may love Marxism, some may hate it, but no matter their position on it, like gravity and cellphones, everyone has to use it.

    Replies: @Levtraro, @Malla

    Bullshit, your fat pig hero Marx did not work a day in his life as a worker or as an entrepreneur. The guy shamelessly lived asking money from his family, treated his mentally challenged servant as a slave and maybe impregnated her, looked down upon English working class people and was a relative of the Rothchilds.

    Secondly the USA has secretly supported nearly all Communist movements in the World behind the scenes. Including bringing Castro to power. Bretton Woods, IMF, World Bank had the hands of Communist Soviet supporting Jews like Harry Dexter White. He was a Commie Lithuanian Jew and a Soviet Spy in the US Govt and was pivotal in pitting the Japanese Empire in a war with the USA (to save the USSR’s East). He was also pivotal in the Bretton Woods Conference and later IMF and World Bank. Yes a pro-Soviet spy,

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/03/14/how-a-soviet-spy-outmaneuvered-john-maynard-keynes-and-ensured-u-s-global-financial-dominance/
    How a Soviet spy outmaneuvered John Maynard Keynes to ensure U.S. financial dominance
    https://www.vox.com/2014/8/24/6057119/harry-dexter-white-ben-steil
    This Soviet spy created the US-led global economic system

    All this “Revolutionary Communist heroes” Vs evul Western Imperialists is nothing but bullshit. Both sides have been working behind the scenes from the very beginning.

    • Replies: @Malla
    @Malla


    Including bringing Castro to power.
     
    An interview with Mr. Earl T. Smith, American Ambassador to Cuba in between 1957 and 1959.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pINcfBNZQiA
    US Government Brought Fidel Castro to Power (Full Documentary)

    A rare detailed account of the Communist takeover of Cuba and America’s role in Fidel Castro’s dictatorship. Former US Ambassador to Cuba, Earl T. Smith is interviewed and reveals the State Department’s involvement in violation of neutrality laws, supporting a known communist with a documented history of violent criminal behavior, and committing high treason by deliberately aiding an enemy of the United States and concealing a clear and imminent threat to our national security. This conspiracy against the citizens of Cuba has cost thousands of lives, devastated families, and has left the dispossessed Cubans stateless and destitute. It is a deliberate case of economic and cultural genocide that merits investigation and restitution. Please watch, share and expose. Smith also details this collusion in his book, “The Fourth Floor”, a curiously hard to find book he wrote in 1962 “as a footnote to history and to the science of government”. He added “I am convinced that my experience as the United States Ambassador to Cuba was unusual in the sense that I lived through the Castro Communist Revolution, and I feel that I owe it to the American people to try to establish the fact that the Castro Communist Revolution need never have occurred. From this experience, i learned not only that our techniques of relations with Cuba were faulty but that the modus operandi for the determination of policy is not only inadequate but dangerous to the defense of our country”

    Batista was their guy too but he was backstabbed just like the backstab done to the Chinese Nationalists in favour of Mao. Even Stalin did not want a 100% Communist mainland China but 50% Communist 50% Capitalist mainland China like Korea or Vietnam (The USSR after the war did not have the resources to support a 100% Communist China just after the War according to the pragmatic Stalin) but the Rockefellars insisted upon him for a 100% Communist China

    Mr Smith openly states that in general the United States has always preferred to support the spread of Left Winged dictators over Right Winged dictators because the lefties are considered more progressive. (a dubious term, progressing towards what? A One World dictatorship, a New World Order?) The U.S. Government have supported right winged dictators in the past too, when the situation suited them but they by default they prefer lefty dictators.

    What is also interesting is that the wider Jewish Castro family had been big time players in the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade of Africans, centuries ago, as per Prof. Tony Martin.

    Replies: @Malla, @789

  • Malla says:
    @gatobart
    @Levtraro

    So the guy is an Hindu after all. It figures. After haring crossed paths with many of them in Montreal, Canada,where they form a sizable community, I have come to the conclusion that they see their abandonment by the British in 1948 as one of the greatest tragedies in their History and that they are still longing for the return of the Raj. Mahatma Gandhi was a fake, just as Nelson Mandela. He never meant true Independence for India, just a cosmetic one but the Brits misinterpreted him and they just left. And they are still crying for it. Just look at how envious they are they of the Chinese, who have become after all a truly independent nation and the world superpower they will never be, and how easy is for the Anglo Saxons to make them do their dirty job in that neck of the woods, specially against China and Pakistan.

    Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain, @Arthur MacBride, @Malla

    After haring crossed paths with many of them in Montreal, Canada,where they form a sizable community, I have come to the conclusion that they see their abandonment by the British in 1948 as one of the greatest tragedies in their History and that they are still longing for the return of the Raj

    You are obviously lying or deluded. Most Indians do not miss the British Raj. Stop blabbering bullshit.

    Mahatma Gandhi was a fake, just as Nelson Mandela. He never meant true Independence for India,

    Gandhi or no Gandhi, there were forces in Britain itself who themselves dissolve the British Raj. Read the Montague Clemsford report.

    Just look at how envious they are they of the Chinese, who have become after all a truly independent nation and the world superpower they will never be,

    India is as independent as China is. India looks at China as an imperialist country. making an alliance with the West (which is falling apart lately) does not make you less independent.
    Many people in Africa believe China is colonizing Africa

    Video Link
    Why Zambia Is Officially A Chinese Colony?

  • @Mefobills
    @Exile


    When you realize that what you hate isn’t “government,” but rather “government by people who hate you,” you see how impractical and anti-human libertarian individualism really is and you will never look at it the same way again.
     
    Exile, thank you for your insightful comments. Libertarians have proved to me that they are "individualists" who are personality defectives lacking in empathy. Lacking in empathy is a characteristic of a sociopath.

    Your description is much more complete and insightful. These defective anti-humans are attracted to an ideology created by our (((Friends))) who also are anti-human.

    Replies: @HbutnotG

    Hmmm.

    For decades I was under the impression that “libertarian” simply meant pro-small government, there strictly to design a catchy flag, and protect the citizens and its boundaries, and little else.

    Looks like yet another term that has undergone re-definition.

    Looks too, like people have regressed. Nosey, “your business is my business” baloney. That may well be the reason for the re-definition of libertarian.

  • @JohnPlywood
    @Rich

    Illegal aliens have been declining; most immigration to the USA has been high-skilled Asian legal immigration.

    Christianity, which itself is a form of deviancy, has been declining in Northwestern Europe for decades, and is associated with increased education, material wealth, and European ancesty. It's people of color from third world countries who like the disgusting message of that religion.


    Predictably, the USA continues to ascend while Latin America stagnates and declines.

    Replies: @Rich, @sheliak, @George True, @HbutnotG

    Religion is a cult – be it that first holy communion or Jonestown. No difference except the aesthetics. All religions are there so that folks can blame their mistakes misgivings, or misfortunes on anything or anyone, except themselves. It’s a gene sequence. And given the mortality that religions have incurred over millenia, I presume Darwinism will eventually end the cultism just on Darwinian principles. If it never does – than, dammit, I WILL believe there is a Gawd! Ever notice that Baptist Tennessee outlawed teaching Darwinism in public schools?

    On another level, given the massive evolution of humans on all other counts, adherence to religion is like wearing bell bottom jeans or poodle skirts in 2020.

  • @Exile
    Building a community of libertarians is like building a house out of pudding.

    Libertarian individualism and community are almost perfect opposites. Libertarians are the least capable most inappropriate people on Earth for forming a community.

    Community requires a cooperative/synergistic (whole > sum of parts) mindset, altruistic morals, a willingness to sacrifice and goodwill toward others.

    Out of any group of libertarians, there are maybe 1 in 100 who are self-regulating enough to make functional members of a decent community. The rest will simply work the edges and arbitrage the goodwill of others until they are kicked out or the community fails entirely.

    Almost every decent libertarian has already leveled up to some kind of Third Position authoritarianism. When you realize that what you hate isn't "government," but rather "government by people who hate you," you see how impractical and anti-human libertarian individualism really is and you will never look at it the same way again.

    Replies: @Mefobills, @Munga Bulga, @HbutnotG

    Hmmm.

    For decades I was under the impression that “libertarian” simply meant pro-small government, there strictly to design a catchy flag, and protect the citizens and its boundaries, and little else.

    Looks like yet another term that has undergone re-definition.

    Looks too, like people have regressed. Nosey, “your business is my business” baloney. That may well be the reason for the re-definition of libertarian.

    • Replies: @789
    @HbutnotG

    Libertarians were always for unlimited enterprise (which can only lead to monopoly); for open borders; for free-trade.

    What can we expect from a Lisa Rosenbaum who was a slut home-wrecker who chased after other people's husbands. Ron Paul named his son after this upstanding being who invented a cult.

  • @gatobart
    @RadicalCenter

    Gringo is a rude derogatory racial / ethnic term, like spic.

    I disagree. And I was born and grew up within the culture that uses it every day. Gringo, as used by Latinos in general, has a double meaning, depending... Depending on what...? Depending of the context. It is like the collective term used by Chileans (and others) to refer to themselves, the Roto Chileno. When Chileans praise the courage and bravery of their own ancestors during past wars with their neighbors, or to their own resilience during the natural disasters so common in the country, they refer to their collective as the Roto Chileno. But at the same time Roto is used, specially by the elite and the middle class, to refer to the lower strata of society, the poor and the wretched. It is also a qualifier and a noon to refer to the lack of manners and education of someone (Don't fart while at the table, Don't be roto, or a roto). Also, many Peruvians who are still hurting for their defeat in the War of 1879-84 call Chileans in general Rotos probably ignoring that in the context of their comments the word comes out like flattery. As Roto, Gringo isn't in any way a term like spic, which is spiteful and hateful in ANY possible occasion. To me personally Gringo is anyone who was born in the U.S, and has English as his first language...and has the looks of it.

    Replies: @republic

    It is an insult when used by Mexicans

    • Replies: @gatobart
    @republic

    South Americans in general don't carry the beef Mexicans have against the gringos. (After all they stole them at gunpoint half of their country) and even less in the countries of the South Cone. For people over there the U.S, could be as far as China or Tibet.

    Replies: @Malla

  • @The Real World
    @Vojkan

    The reason I mentioned removing looney and theory is because in the USA both words are used constantly by the media, pundits, politicians, etc. to intentionally distract the weak-minded from believing that there are actually such things as conspiracies. They try to imply that all 3 words are ONE WORD and they are succeeding. Numerous times, I have had to alert people who use that 3-word phrase in my presence that "conspiracy is a real word with real meaning and they most certainly exist and always have". At least half the time I get a confused look. Yeah, it's that bad.

    There are sooooo many aspects about the Covid situation and the relatively uniform reactions and policies around it, with global Govts mostly on-board and operating in coordination -- the pattern becomes obvious. Btw, there are two African heads-of-state (not old) who publicly resisted the pressure to conform to Covid policies and they are now dead. Many other countries buckled because the World Economic Forum or World Bank put the financial screws to them or incentivized them mightily with big loans at tiny rates. In other words, they were coerced. It's not as hard to execute something like this as you may think if the elites are willing to use mafia tactics and they are willing.

    In the USA, the policy contrasts are shockingly stark between states with Democrat Governors versus Republican Governors. You can't believe how obvious it is that Dem Governors are taking orders from elsewhere, outside their states! They are intentionally destroying small businesses and screwing up young children by keeping them out of in-person learning or making them wear masks 7 hours a day if they are in school! It's sick and intentional. They are psychologically breaking them down with more planned, I have no doubt. These are not coincidences.


    and bioweapons unlike chemical weapons usually have antidotes before they’re unleashed.
     
    They did have have the "antidote" ahead of time. The fake vaccines weren't developed in mere months; they've had them waiting. What's the viewpoint of the Serbians regarding the vaccines?

    Replies: @Vojkan

    Do you really believe the vaccines are against covid-19? Most people who died from the disease were over eighty. For 99.99% of younger people, the disease is milder than the flu. You don’t vaccinate people over eighty, unless you want to hasten their deaths. The benefit of vaccinating younger people is zero for them and zero for the elderly as it doesn’t prevent the vaccinated from infecting the non-vaccinated. So, what are the vaccines for?

    The only conspiracy with regards to covid is the conspiracy to stay in power. You overlook one crucial fact: TPTB are shit-scared of the people. They are shit-scared because they have aroused the people and pulled off revolutions on pretexts that seem trivial compared to their deeds since. They are shit-scared that someone might make people realise it and arouse them again, this time against genuine evil. Because they know that what they do is by any standard set by humanity since the dawn of civilisation truly, genuinely evil. So they regard clinging to power as a means of survival. For that, they constantly provide people with reasons to fight each other. If they stop, the people might turn against them.

    Last, with regards to Serbia, a lot of people have taken the Chinese and Russian jabs. The rest are vaccine-skeptics. A few local celebs have been appointed to promote Pfizer’s concoction but very few heeded their advice. The situation is so dire that a doctors’ association has appealed on the government to silence skeptics by banning them from the media and initiating criminal charges against them, while Serbia’s president Vučić has offered ~30€ to every vaccinated citizen over 16, has threatened civil servants with unpaid sick leave if they didn’t show the example and has threatened the rest of us with indefinite lock-up. So far, the majority remain unswayed.

    • Replies: @gsjackson
    @Vojkan

    I'm an American who 23 days ago returned to Belgrade after three months in much more relaxed Albania. I was shocked to find Serbia had gone back to making people eat and drink outside. But now that absurdity has been removed for the time being, and I'm noticing more and more people on city buses not wearing their diapers. Could it be the worm is turning?

    I want to yell at Serbs: 'Stop taking the PCR test.' That's the government's pretext for all the chicken shit, and if they don't have "cases" they can't justify it. But I suppose they would just make up the numbers if they had to.

    It's good to hear your assessment. I've been a little disappointed in how much the Serbs have been willing to put up with so far, but to their great credit they don't self police. No stink eyes or lectures about improper mask usage from anybody. It's a very different population in the U.S.

    Replies: @The Real World, @Vojkan

  • Bert says:
    @Malla
    @anyone with a brain

    And worse thing, Brazil is full of those same crackpot feminists and floatsome that one gets in the USA.

    https://artreview.com/33-metre-vagina-sculpture-in-brazil-attacked-by-far-right/
    33-metre vagina sculpture in Brazil attacked by far-right

    https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/134829488_10219401787171691_4473035230895188289_o.jpg

    A three-way culture skirmish has broken out in Brazil over a largescale piece of land art in the state of Pernambuco. Juliana Notari’s installation, Diva (2020), takes the form of a vulva, excavated from the earth.

    Supporters of Jair Bolsonaro, Brazil’s far-right president, were first to take exception. Others complained about the use of public money in creating the work, which was commissioned for the Usina de Arte botanical gardens with the Museu de Arte Moderna Aloisio Magalhães.

    Bolsonaro has repeatedly attacked the arts and threatened cultural funding budgets. During his election campaign he railed against ‘big-time artists’ who he claimed were getting rich off public money.

    The piece of land art, unveiled last week, was carved into a former sugar cane field, and covered with painted resin in reddish tones. The artist explained that she wanted it to represent both the female anatomy and a wound by way of a feminist comment.

    Replies: @mike99588, @Bert

    It is an inaccurate anatomical representation. I don’t think I need to detail the missing structures. But the “artist’s” failure to get basic anatomy right mirrors feminist errors in understanding female psychology. Most women are not happy unless they are subtly and kindly dominated by a man, and the feminist beliefs are as flawed as this “sculpture” because they leave out this essential element of female psychology.

    • Agree: Malla
  • Sadly, there’s much truth in Mr. Yates’s article. This, from an American with Chilean friends and cousins, who’s spent much time in Chile over the past quarter of a century.

  • @gatobart
    @Levtraro

    You are both right and wrong at the same time because you are referring to two different things as if there were just one: Scientific Marxism and Political Marxism. Only understanding this dichotomy you may get the whole idea. Scientific Marxism, a.k.a. Historic Materialism, is basically what I was referring to. To achieve it, Marx (and Engels) took apart the History of Civilization and analyzed the whole of it with a cold, dispassionate eye, trying to determine what was behind the events that had created this civilization, what had been the forces of change and evolution, and which had finally brought it to the industrial age. So they (rightly) concluded that it was something as simple as survival, the procurement of the basics to carry on living that all human need, and so society as a whole. That at first (Food, shelter and clothing) and for that primitive humans had to gather and cooperate and form a society (tribe, clan). Then, when some amount of surplus was produced there was always someone to appropriate it and use it to exert some kind of control over the rest of the crowd. That was what gave origin to an elite, to social classes and finally to class struggle. That is basically Marxism as a scientific doctrine, which has become generally accepted by everyone, a doctrine we know as Historic Materialism. Marx could have stopped at that but I guess he couldn’t help, he felt he had to “provide a solution, a way out” for all the troubles Man had found on his way to the industrial age, even more when he was personally witnessing the suffering of the lower classes, the nascent proletariat, and the greed and indifference of the upper crust of society, the Capitalist class. That is when, as a follow up, he took the task of turning this same knowledge of History into a political tool, a theory and an ideology for change. As a natural (for him) conclusion to his monumental work he proposed that there had to be a social and political revolution in which the nascent proletariat, the newly born class brought about by industrialization, should take power and then confiscate the means of production from the Capitalists so they would go on producing goods, and a profit, for the benefit of the whole of society and not just for the elite. That is basically Political Marxism, which as you point out, has shown to come up rather short of results more than a century and a half later. (Even if I would chalk up Communist China as the single most relevant success of Political Marxism, maybe the one which will be the historical game changer after all).

    In any case, you are deadly wrong when stating that “class struggle” is not happening. That is as wrong as saying that gravity or the Internet are not happening. Just look around you and tell me again that Class Struggle is not happening. What is really happening is that in this struggle the working classes have been taking a bad beating for decades already, especially in the so-called West.

    Replies: @Levtraro

    In your comment 278 you didn’t distinguish between ideological and political Marxism, you just said we are all Marxists, Marxism is alive, Wall Street practices Marxism, etc.

    Ok, so now you say that ideological Marxism is alive and kicking while political Marxism had come short of accomplishments after over a century of trying.

    Regarding ideological Marxism, first, it is certainly not scientific (as in a scientific discipline) but it could be interpreted as a scientific hypothesis about the evolution of human societies. There is some merit in the analysis of history by Marx. I guess I could admit that he saw a significant part of the social dynamics by highlighting the importance of the appropriation of the surplus from productive activities. He saw something that was happening and he argued that that something was determinant: the appropriation of the surplus. Wall Street actually seeks to appropriate all the surpluses it can lands her hands on. Does that make Wall Street Marxist? Answering yes is a logical error. The fact that Marx highlighted the importance of surplus appropriation does not make Marxists of those that during all of history have been appropriating the surpluses.

    From that time, the times of Marx and the Young Hegelians, of all the freien meeting at Hippel’s wineshop in Berlin, the one that saw deeper, much deeper than Marx and Engels, the one that had a vision se profound that it contained Marx’s vision as a particular case and as partial understanding, as well as those of the liberals and social democrats, was Johan Kaspar Schmidt, whose penname was Max Stirner. After reading Stirner’s book, Marx reacted strongly and adapted his theories but Marx also was shocked by noting that Stirner’s view was much deeper than his own so in The German Ideology he and Engels often resorts to cheap shots, ad hominem and plain insults instead of reasoned arguments.

    Regarding political Marxism, the success of the CCP, raising hundred of millions from poverty in China, and the industrilization of the Soviet Union and her success in several highly technical areas, means that Marxists can really achieve great things when they are not fanatical orcs.

    Yes you are right that class struggle is happening, it is happening all the time, it happens when anybody takes a job and accepts a salary thus giving away the surplus to the owner. What I meant is that class struggle is not currently having much impact on the evolution of societies. There are no class-struggle motivated revolutions, at least no capitalist country seems to be headed in that direction.

    • Replies: @gatobart
    @Levtraro

    I didn't distinguish between political and ideological Marxism because I was just giving a general overview on the subject, meant above all for those who may know little or nothing about it and who would have been confused by its subtleties. I know by experience than when you introduce new people to any subject you have to provide just the basics so my way to put it I think was the most appropriate: Scientific Marxism is the best theoretical tool to explain us how we have come to this point in Human History, why society is the way it is and works the way it works. That is the Marxism which is alive and well. Most of us, if not all, are Marxists in that regard, scientific Marxists, Political Marxism is the practical tool, or the way of doing things, of those who want to change society for what they think will be the better, the common good, through their active participation in public life, in political activism, in elections, even in social revolutions. Ideological Marxism would be the bridge between both and, given Human nature, it is no surprising that, as the result of this, from SM to PM, Marxism usually branches out in many different tendencies as we witnessed during the revolutions of the post war period: Castrism, Guevarism, Maoism, Stalinism, Trostkysm and so on.

    So you are right when you say that Ideological Marxism in not scientific. How could it be, if it is the way different people interpret, not so much SM, but how they should act, what they should do, to apply it in their own particular neck of the woods, in their own society, among their own people with their own identity and their own culture? No one argues that Cuba, Venezuela or Nicaragua are very different countries from, say, North Korea or China, so their own Socialist (or Communist, for those who love the word) systems have to be different. That is why Marxist ideology can't be scientific, because it is the theoretical tool used to bridge the gap between SM and PM, i.e. to bring Marxism to the real world and make it work among people. I still remember some militants of the 60s and 70s commenting with amusement that, as the Chinese had been accustomed for millennia to have an Emperor and to blindly obeying to him, all Mao had to do was to proclaim himself their new Emperor, a Red Emperor, to assume and keep tight control of the hundreds of millions of them.

    Also, you use Newton's Laws of Motion all the time, when you are awake and working or walking the streets and even when you are sleeping in bed (you roll over when your body is pressing an arm too hard, that is gravity at work). Does that make you a Newtonian...? You are using Microsoft, does that make you a Gatesist...? So, when I say that we are all Marxists, that is simply my way to emphasize how wrong are those who babble about Marxism being dead and forgotten, my way to say to them, You are using Marxism right now, when you are pondering if you will be able to pay your bills for this month..! So the point about WS being Marxist or not, is moot, they use like the rest of us, period.

    As for this chap, Johan Kaspar Schmidt, this is the first time I hear of him--even if Mark Stirner rings a very distant bell. In any case, i remember having seen the images of Che Guevara (above all), Fidel Castro, Ho Chi Mihn, Karl Marx, Frederic Engels, Lenin and other revolutionary many, many times in my life, live and in pictures and videos, of all kinds of demonstrations and public acts but I have never seen that of Mark Stirner by any chance. This is not to demean him but simply to point out that it doesn't matter how right or accurate you may have been if nobody comes to know about you. Marx probably stole ideas from him, but that wouldn't make of Marx an exception but just another example of the general rule.

    Replies: @Levtraro

  • @Alfred
    @Vojkan

    they didn’t conspire, they just happen to be idiots and their “control freaks” side comes from their fear of people eventually noticing

    Forgive me for saying this. I think you are being naive.

    Governments did not conspire together. Governments received orders from higher authorities. All institutions had been penetrated and corrupted - my very own Imperial College is a good example. The politicians just carried out their orders. These orders changed to take into account local conditions and any resistance encountered. Moving the goal posts constantly - witness Fauci and Johnson - is called ghosting. It is designed to confuse and demoralise ordinary people.

    The whole thing was planned over 30 years ago. The false flags in Scotland, Tasmania and Christchurch were designed to confiscate guns. Efforts to confiscate guns in the USA did not succeed. Hence, parts of the USA are where the resistance is most likely to succeed.

    The divorce of Bill Gates is a massive hole beneath the waterline for those behind this scam. I really hope that Melinda Gates comes clean and tells the public what the plan is all about. Maybe I am being optimistic.

    Here is CNN trying to pretend that the divorce had nothing to do with the virus and the fake vaccines. Everything they say is false - unless proven otherwise.

    The 'gray divorce' trend: As the Gates split shows, more older couples are getting divorced. Here's why

    https://i.ibb.co/7vfkhRg/div1.jpg

    Replies: @Vojkan, @The Real World

    You are utterly spot-on, Alfred.

    A virus bioweapon, the Great Reset, digital currencies, engineered mass migration, racial strife turned up to 10 and so much more. All of those have been very long in the planning.

    The Western World, anyway, is becoming more hideous by the day. And yes, in the USA MANY politicians, state AGs, county prosecutors, corporate CEOS and non-profit leaders are corrupted or blackmailed, therefore, captive.

    There is something very odd about the Gates divorce. I think there’s a good chance that it is just an ASSET-related endeavor. By them divorcing and her getting some number of billions, if he is eventually indicted for something and suffers asset confiscation or a huge fine – her billions will be exempt.

    She’d never rat him out….for a few reasons mostly because I’m sure she likes oxygen. Not that he would hurt her but, globalists who would have something big to lose by any confessions could easily see that she dies in an “accident” before she could.

  • @Vojkan
    @The Real World

    I may again have lacked clarity. I don't say that every story of a conspiracy is loony, I say that the looniest conspiracy theories may actually be created by conspirators to discredit all those who doubt official versions. I certainly believe that a conspiracy is behind 9/11.

    Regarding Serbia and Serbs in general, Americans have served us at least five false flags to justify sanctions and military aggression, four during the war in Bosnia-Herzegovina - including one at the very start of the war in which mostly Serbs waiting in line for bread were massacred and were presented as muslims killed by Serbs - and one to launch the war for Kosovo. They even tried to engineer a sixth during that war, a massacre of Albanian refugees in Kukesh, Albania, by the Serb aviation, with Christiane Amanpour and CNN cameras ready to report on it but we learnt of it in advance and accumulated evidence before it could happen. So I have no doubt about the methods the American "deep state" to keep the sheeple obedient and to advance the interests of the Jewish lobby and of what CJ Hopkins calls the GloboCorp.

    Now, with regards to the coronavirus, I don't know in what lab it's been created, heck, I don't know if it even exists as to this day, it hasn't been officially isolated, it may be a bioweapon but its effects are too random and bioweapons unlike chemical weapons usually have antidotes before they're unleashed - they're not shoot-and-forget, they can return as boomerangs and hit you if you're unprepared -, and it does reek a "mad scientist" scent.

    However, I believe governments weren't in any conspiracy when the whole thing started, as they were genuinely taken aback by the crisis unfolding and had totally out of synch, contradictory reactions. They simply didn't know what to do. Maybe some evil mind did indeed plan the whole thing but I don't think it was Schwab or Gates as they simply don't have the intellectual capacity to pull off something that complex and I don't think Trump or Macron or Johnson knew of the plan. I did say in a comment on this site a year ago that the whole thing resembled a giant psy-op but that psy-op wasn't necessarily the result of a conspiracy. It may well have been that TPTB simply jumped on the opportunity to tighten their grip on society. It may well be that as they have shown time and again, they are incapable to predict let alone deal with the consequences of their actions and that Big Pharma saw that they had no idea how to escape from the trap into which they've put themselves and seized the opportunity to sell whatever concoction they come up with as a ticket out of the crisis.

    I think we often credit TPTB with way more intellectual capacity than they actually have. To paraphrase Bush the Lesser, let's not "misoverestimate" them. The Covid crisis was far too complex with far too random possibilities of evolution for them to have planned it whole in advance.

    Replies: @The Real World

    The reason I mentioned removing looney and theory is because in the USA both words are used constantly by the media, pundits, politicians, etc. to intentionally distract the weak-minded from believing that there are actually such things as conspiracies. They try to imply that all 3 words are ONE WORD and they are succeeding. Numerous times, I have had to alert people who use that 3-word phrase in my presence that “conspiracy is a real word with real meaning and they most certainly exist and always have”. At least half the time I get a confused look. Yeah, it’s that bad.

    There are sooooo many aspects about the Covid situation and the relatively uniform reactions and policies around it, with global Govts mostly on-board and operating in coordination — the pattern becomes obvious. Btw, there are two African heads-of-state (not old) who publicly resisted the pressure to conform to Covid policies and they are now dead. Many other countries buckled because the World Economic Forum or World Bank put the financial screws to them or incentivized them mightily with big loans at tiny rates. In other words, they were coerced. It’s not as hard to execute something like this as you may think if the elites are willing to use mafia tactics and they are willing.

    In the USA, the policy contrasts are shockingly stark between states with Democrat Governors versus Republican Governors. You can’t believe how obvious it is that Dem Governors are taking orders from elsewhere, outside their states! They are intentionally destroying small businesses and screwing up young children by keeping them out of in-person learning or making them wear masks 7 hours a day if they are in school! It’s sick and intentional. They are psychologically breaking them down with more planned, I have no doubt. These are not coincidences.

    and bioweapons unlike chemical weapons usually have antidotes before they’re unleashed.

    They did have have the “antidote” ahead of time. The fake vaccines weren’t developed in mere months; they’ve had them waiting. What’s the viewpoint of the Serbians regarding the vaccines?

    • Replies: @Vojkan
    @The Real World

    Do you really believe the vaccines are against covid-19? Most people who died from the disease were over eighty. For 99.99% of younger people, the disease is milder than the flu. You don't vaccinate people over eighty, unless you want to hasten their deaths. The benefit of vaccinating younger people is zero for them and zero for the elderly as it doesn't prevent the vaccinated from infecting the non-vaccinated. So, what are the vaccines for?

    The only conspiracy with regards to covid is the conspiracy to stay in power. You overlook one crucial fact: TPTB are shit-scared of the people. They are shit-scared because they have aroused the people and pulled off revolutions on pretexts that seem trivial compared to their deeds since. They are shit-scared that someone might make people realise it and arouse them again, this time against genuine evil. Because they know that what they do is by any standard set by humanity since the dawn of civilisation truly, genuinely evil. So they regard clinging to power as a means of survival. For that, they constantly provide people with reasons to fight each other. If they stop, the people might turn against them.

    Last, with regards to Serbia, a lot of people have taken the Chinese and Russian jabs. The rest are vaccine-skeptics. A few local celebs have been appointed to promote Pfizer's concoction but very few heeded their advice. The situation is so dire that a doctors' association has appealed on the government to silence skeptics by banning them from the media and initiating criminal charges against them, while Serbia's president Vučić has offered ~30€ to every vaccinated citizen over 16, has threatened civil servants with unpaid sick leave if they didn't show the example and has threatened the rest of us with indefinite lock-up. So far, the majority remain unswayed.

    Replies: @gsjackson

  • @Alfred
    @Vojkan

    they didn’t conspire, they just happen to be idiots and their “control freaks” side comes from their fear of people eventually noticing

    Forgive me for saying this. I think you are being naive.

    Governments did not conspire together. Governments received orders from higher authorities. All institutions had been penetrated and corrupted - my very own Imperial College is a good example. The politicians just carried out their orders. These orders changed to take into account local conditions and any resistance encountered. Moving the goal posts constantly - witness Fauci and Johnson - is called ghosting. It is designed to confuse and demoralise ordinary people.

    The whole thing was planned over 30 years ago. The false flags in Scotland, Tasmania and Christchurch were designed to confiscate guns. Efforts to confiscate guns in the USA did not succeed. Hence, parts of the USA are where the resistance is most likely to succeed.

    The divorce of Bill Gates is a massive hole beneath the waterline for those behind this scam. I really hope that Melinda Gates comes clean and tells the public what the plan is all about. Maybe I am being optimistic.

    Here is CNN trying to pretend that the divorce had nothing to do with the virus and the fake vaccines. Everything they say is false - unless proven otherwise.

    The 'gray divorce' trend: As the Gates split shows, more older couples are getting divorced. Here's why

    https://i.ibb.co/7vfkhRg/div1.jpg

    Replies: @Vojkan, @The Real World

    You give them way too much credit. That they dreamt of it doesn’t mean that they did it. Rather, they took Covid as an opportunity sent straight from hell by their master himself and acted on it. Hence the initial cacophony and today’s unison, as it took them some time to synchronise.

    As I’ve written in the comment thread on Jim Fetzer’s article on conspiracy theories, the chances of success of a conspiracy are increased by the cohesion among the conspirators and reduced by their number and diversity. Here we have very different people pursuing very different agendas who have simply found themselves on common ground.

    Politicians reacted how they reacted because they didn’t have any instructions on how to behave in the beginning, the people who own them didn’t give them any initially because it took them time to process what was happening.

    Regarding Pfizer and co, remember that memo by a woman from Goldman Sachs saying that Big Pharma’s interest wasn’t to cure people but to sell them treatments. How do you think experimenting on masses a “vaccine” that makes the body produce both the poison and the antidote fits in that strategy? They didn’t plan the pandemics, they seized the opportunity it offered. Big Pharma doesn’t want people to die, it wants them to be permanently ill.

    As for Bill and Melinda, Mrs. Gates stood by Mr. Gates when he wanted to force-feed Africans with Monsanto GMOs, she stood by him when his vaccination campaign in India left thousands of kids crippled, she stood by him when his vaccination campaign in Kenya made thousands of girls and women sterile. CNN is the fake news factory par excellence indeed but I very much doubt a coronavirus caused Bill’s wife to suddenly grow a conscience and feel disgust for his depopulation idée fixe.

    If the Covid crisis had indeed been planned, the people believed to be the culprits would have better concealed their enthusiasm at its onset. No, they didn’t conspire, they were just thrilled by a gift they found too sublime to be true.

  • All the discussed issues aside, you damned well better be OK with big earthquakes before you plan to live there. And Brazil? Ever hear of Loxoceles laeta? Brown recluse spider on steroids!

  • @Arthur MacBride
    @gatobart


    I can’t grasp what is your point.
     
    You surely cannot be so obtuse.

    My point is -- obviously -- on the foolishness of making enemies without due cause.

    It is about needlessly expressing contempt for others (who might be on your side) through arrogant dismissive phrases such as the one you used.

    Replies: @gatobart

    Well, your point is as foggy as they come and please, don’t look for excuses berating and insulting the other part because right there is where I stop paying attention to people. Is this a regular habit in you…?

    In any case your Koch/Ukraine analogy is all wet and has no relation with the Hindu/British Empire case. Many Nazis were sympathetic to Ukrainians in their desire to break away from the Stalin regime and they warmed to the possibility of creating some client State right there that would be a precious ally in their fight against the USSR. They even integrated many Ukrainians in their military forces. Fact is, Ukrainians were pretty happy under Nazi control because they got from the Nazis the respect they wanted from people they thought were their racial kin. But Hitler crushed all these attempts at making Ukrainians feel welcome as part of the Reich because he couldn’t get over his own racism against Slaves. Quite different from the traditional attitude of the British towards the Hindus and all other dark skinned races. The worst of all their own boss Winston Churchill who referred once to Hinduism as a beastly religion for beastly people and who refused to send food aid to India when they were suffering a crippling famine and who explained himself “sort of”, arguing that they wouldn’t be having that kind of problem if they didn’t breed like rabbits. Hindus fighting for the Empire never got from the British the respect and recognition they probably deserved, and even less the general population, they were always treated with utter contempt. And so the rest of the dark skinned colonials. Even the much vaunted for their bravery gurkas fighting in the Falklands in 1982 were abandoned later as war vets. On the other hand, many of those fighting with the Nazis in Europe during WW2 felt they were being treated as brothers in arms and respected as such by the Germans. That is why your analogy is confusing.

    • Replies: @Malla
    @gatobart


    Hindus fighting for the Empire never got from the British the respect and recognition they probably deserved, and even less the general population, they were always treated with utter contempt.
     
    ghettofart, do some research before you fart.
    The India Gate (formerly known as the All India War Memorial) is a war memorial located astride the Rajpath (Kingsway), on the eastern edge of the "ceremonial axis" of New Delhi. It stands as a memorial to 70,000 soldiers of the British Indian Army who died in between 1914 and 1921 in the First World War, in France, Flanders, Mesopotamia, Persia, East Africa, Gallipoli and elsewhere in the Near and the Far East, and the third Anglo-Afghan War. 13,300 servicemen's names, both of British and Indian origins, common soldiers and officers, are inscribed on the gate. Designed by Sir Edwin Lutyens, the gate evokes the architectural style of the triumphal arch such as the Arch of Constantine, in Rome, and is often compared to the Arc de Triomphe in Paris, and the Gateway of India in Mumbai.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/India_Gate_in_New_Delhi_03-2016.jpg/800px-India_Gate_in_New_Delhi_03-2016.jpg

    The India Gate was part of the work of the Imperial War Graves Commission (IWGC), which came into existence in December 1917 during the British Raj for building war graves and memorials to soldiers of the Royal Indian Army who were killed in the First World War. The foundation stone of the gate, then called the All India War Memorial, was laid on 10 February 1921, at 16:30, by the visiting Duke of Connaught in a ceremony attended by Officers and Men of the British Indian Army, Imperial Service Troops, the Commander in Chief, and Chelmsford, the viceroy. On the occasion, the viceroy is reported to have said, "The stirring tales of individual heroism, will live forever in the annals of this country", and that the memorial which was a tribute to the memory of heroes, "known and unknown", would inspire future generations to endure hardships with similar fortitude and "no less valour". The Duke also read out a message by the King, which said, "On this spot, in the central vista of the Capital of India, there will stand a Memorial Archway, designed to keep", in the thoughts of future generations, "the glorious sacrifice of the officers and men of the British Indian Army who fought and fell". During the ceremony, the Deccan Horse, 3rd Sappers and Miners, 6th Jat Light Infantry, 34th Sikh Pioneers, 39th Garhwal Rifles, 59th Scinde Rifles (Frontier Force), 117th Mahrattas, and 5th Gurkha Rifles (Frontier Force), were honoured with the title of "Royal" in recognition of the distinguished services and gallantry of the British Indian Army during the Great War".

    Ten years after the foundation stone laying ceremony, on 12 February 1931, the memorial was inaugurated by Lord Irwin, who on the occasion said "those who after us shall look upon this monument may learn in pondering its purpose something of that sacrifice and service which the names upon its walls record."

    The memorial in New Delhi, like the Cenotaph in London, is a secular memorial, free of religious and "culturally-specific iconography such as crosses". Lutyens according to his biographer, Christopher Hussey, relied on "elemental mode", a style of commemoration based on "universal architectural style free of religious ornamentation".

    Inscriptions
    The cornice of the India Gate is inscribed with the Imperial suns while both sides of the arch have INDIA, flanked by the dates MCMXIV ('1914'; on the left) and MCMXIX ('1919'; on the right). Below the word INDIA, in capital letters, is inscribed:

    TO THE DEAD OF THE INDIAN ARMIES WHO FELL AND ARE HONOURED IN FRANCE AND FLANDERS MESOPOTAMIA AND PERSIA EAST AFRICA GALLIPOLI AND ELSEWHERE IN THE NEAR AND THE FAR-EAST AND IN SACRED MEMORY ALSO OF THOSE WHOSE NAMES ARE HERE RECORDED AND WHO FELL IN INDIA OR THE NORTH-WEST FRONTIER AND DURING THE THIRD AFGHAN WAR

    In 2017, the India Gate was twinned with the Arch of Remembrance in Leicester, England, another Lutyens war memorial, following a very similar design but on a smaller scale. In a ceremony, India's high commissioner to the United Kingdom laid a wreath at the arch in Leicester and the British high commissioner to India laid one at the India Gate.

    The gate, which is illuminated every evening from 19:00 to 21:30, today serves as one of Delhi's most important tourist attractions.
  • @Vojkan
    @some_loon

    Regarding your first reply, the very principle of making the body synthesise itself the pathogen against which it has to fight has a sort of cartoonish "mad scientist's experiment" aspect. Now, if people tell you that mad scientists are great and that you are criminal because you doubt them, what can you do?

    Regarding the shifting narratives, suspects change their stories when they become suspect and start being afraid of getting caught. Governments changed their stories before anyone suspected them of anything. At first they said that it was ridiculous to consider there was any threat to public health, then as the dead started piling up in nursing homes, imho because of deplorable treatment rather than because of the virus itself, they exaggerated the threat. Then, out of fear that there actually could be effective treatments using HCQ or ivermectin that could cure patients, they started fearing that their successive reactions could betray their incompetence, they forbade their prescription, so that the epidemics could continue, knowing that it wasn't as life-threatening as they pretended. While they looked for a face-saving way out, the dead elders and the occasional more fragile younger victim would come handy to support fearmongering.

    Then, a miracle happens, Big Pharma concocts jabs to stop a virus that is anyway in its death throes. Now they need people to get vaccinated because they cannot declare the end of the pandemics without mass vaccination because it would be an admission that Sweden or Belarus were right from the beginning. No, the only way this can end without them being proven to be criminally incompetent morons is that everybody gets injected.

    In short, they didn't conspire, they just happen to be idiots and their "control freaks" side comes from their fear of people eventually noticing.

    NB: What I wrote is applicable to Europe. In the USA, things took a slightly different course as Democrats used Covid as a means to oust Trump.

    Replies: @Alfred

    they didn’t conspire, they just happen to be idiots and their “control freaks” side comes from their fear of people eventually noticing

    Forgive me for saying this. I think you are being naive.

    Governments did not conspire together. Governments received orders from higher authorities. All institutions had been penetrated and corrupted – my very own Imperial College is a good example. The politicians just carried out their orders. These orders changed to take into account local conditions and any resistance encountered. Moving the goal posts constantly – witness Fauci and Johnson – is called ghosting. It is designed to confuse and demoralise ordinary people.

    The whole thing was planned over 30 years ago. The false flags in Scotland, Tasmania and Christchurch were designed to confiscate guns. Efforts to confiscate guns in the USA did not succeed. Hence, parts of the USA are where the resistance is most likely to succeed.

    The divorce of Bill Gates is a massive hole beneath the waterline for those behind this scam. I really hope that Melinda Gates comes clean and tells the public what the plan is all about. Maybe I am being optimistic.

    Here is CNN trying to pretend that the divorce had nothing to do with the virus and the fake vaccines. Everything they say is false – unless proven otherwise.

    The ‘gray divorce’ trend: As the Gates split shows, more older couples are getting divorced. Here’s why

    • Replies: @Vojkan
    @Alfred

    You give them way too much credit. That they dreamt of it doesn't mean that they did it. Rather, they took Covid as an opportunity sent straight from hell by their master himself and acted on it. Hence the initial cacophony and today's unison, as it took them some time to synchronise.

    As I've written in the comment thread on Jim Fetzer's article on conspiracy theories, the chances of success of a conspiracy are increased by the cohesion among the conspirators and reduced by their number and diversity. Here we have very different people pursuing very different agendas who have simply found themselves on common ground.

    Politicians reacted how they reacted because they didn't have any instructions on how to behave in the beginning, the people who own them didn't give them any initially because it took them time to process what was happening.

    Regarding Pfizer and co, remember that memo by a woman from Goldman Sachs saying that Big Pharma's interest wasn't to cure people but to sell them treatments. How do you think experimenting on masses a "vaccine" that makes the body produce both the poison and the antidote fits in that strategy? They didn't plan the pandemics, they seized the opportunity it offered. Big Pharma doesn't want people to die, it wants them to be permanently ill.

    As for Bill and Melinda, Mrs. Gates stood by Mr. Gates when he wanted to force-feed Africans with Monsanto GMOs, she stood by him when his vaccination campaign in India left thousands of kids crippled, she stood by him when his vaccination campaign in Kenya made thousands of girls and women sterile. CNN is the fake news factory par excellence indeed but I very much doubt a coronavirus caused Bill's wife to suddenly grow a conscience and feel disgust for his depopulation idée fixe.

    If the Covid crisis had indeed been planned, the people believed to be the culprits would have better concealed their enthusiasm at its onset. No, they didn't conspire, they were just thrilled by a gift they found too sublime to be true.

    , @The Real World
    @Alfred

    You are utterly spot-on, Alfred.

    A virus bioweapon, the Great Reset, digital currencies, engineered mass migration, racial strife turned up to 10 and so much more. All of those have been very long in the planning.

    The Western World, anyway, is becoming more hideous by the day. And yes, in the USA MANY politicians, state AGs, county prosecutors, corporate CEOS and non-profit leaders are corrupted or blackmailed, therefore, captive.

    There is something very odd about the Gates divorce. I think there's a good chance that it is just an ASSET-related endeavor. By them divorcing and her getting some number of billions, if he is eventually indicted for something and suffers asset confiscation or a huge fine - her billions will be exempt.

    She'd never rat him out....for a few reasons mostly because I'm sure she likes oxygen. Not that he would hurt her but, globalists who would have something big to lose by any confessions could easily see that she dies in an "accident" before she could.

  • @gatobart
    @Arthur MacBride

    All that is well known so I can't grasp what is your point. Maybe you are responding to the wrong tree...I mean post?

    "Rather like your American antifa/blm whites burning your cities or enlisting in your army to bomb Israel’s enemies."

    And I have no idea what you are talking about. My cities...? My army? I didn't know that the Chilean or the Canadian armies were into any of that.

    Replies: @Arthur MacBride

    I can’t grasp what is your point.

    You surely cannot be so obtuse.

    My point is — obviously — on the foolishness of making enemies without due cause.

    It is about needlessly expressing contempt for others (who might be on your side) through arrogant dismissive phrases such as the one you used.

    • Replies: @gatobart
    @Arthur MacBride

    Well, your point is as foggy as they come and please, don't look for excuses berating and insulting the other part because right there is where I stop paying attention to people. Is this a regular habit in you...?

    In any case your Koch/Ukraine analogy is all wet and has no relation with the Hindu/British Empire case. Many Nazis were sympathetic to Ukrainians in their desire to break away from the Stalin regime and they warmed to the possibility of creating some client State right there that would be a precious ally in their fight against the USSR. They even integrated many Ukrainians in their military forces. Fact is, Ukrainians were pretty happy under Nazi control because they got from the Nazis the respect they wanted from people they thought were their racial kin. But Hitler crushed all these attempts at making Ukrainians feel welcome as part of the Reich because he couldn't get over his own racism against Slaves. Quite different from the traditional attitude of the British towards the Hindus and all other dark skinned races. The worst of all their own boss Winston Churchill who referred once to Hinduism as a beastly religion for beastly people and who refused to send food aid to India when they were suffering a crippling famine and who explained himself "sort of", arguing that they wouldn't be having that kind of problem if they didn't breed like rabbits. Hindus fighting for the Empire never got from the British the respect and recognition they probably deserved, and even less the general population, they were always treated with utter contempt. And so the rest of the dark skinned colonials. Even the much vaunted for their bravery gurkas fighting in the Falklands in 1982 were abandoned later as war vets. On the other hand, many of those fighting with the Nazis in Europe during WW2 felt they were being treated as brothers in arms and respected as such by the Germans. That is why your analogy is confusing.

    Replies: @Malla

  • @Levtraro
    @gatobart

    Mmmh I don't know. Marxism is also about class war which is not happening, the dictatorship of the proletariat which is not happening, ownership of the means of productions by the workers which is not happening, and the whithering away of the State in advanced communism which is not happening. The only thing marx-ish that is happening is central planning of the economy, what central banks and other state agencies do. So I think saying that Marxism is alive and well is more like a rethorical device.

    Replies: @gatobart

    You are both right and wrong at the same time because you are referring to two different things as if there were just one: Scientific Marxism and Political Marxism. Only understanding this dichotomy you may get the whole idea. Scientific Marxism, a.k.a. Historic Materialism, is basically what I was referring to. To achieve it, Marx (and Engels) took apart the History of Civilization and analyzed the whole of it with a cold, dispassionate eye, trying to determine what was behind the events that had created this civilization, what had been the forces of change and evolution, and which had finally brought it to the industrial age. So they (rightly) concluded that it was something as simple as survival, the procurement of the basics to carry on living that all human need, and so society as a whole. That at first (Food, shelter and clothing) and for that primitive humans had to gather and cooperate and form a society (tribe, clan). Then, when some amount of surplus was produced there was always someone to appropriate it and use it to exert some kind of control over the rest of the crowd. That was what gave origin to an elite, to social classes and finally to class struggle. That is basically Marxism as a scientific doctrine, which has become generally accepted by everyone, a doctrine we know as Historic Materialism. Marx could have stopped at that but I guess he couldn’t help, he felt he had to “provide a solution, a way out” for all the troubles Man had found on his way to the industrial age, even more when he was personally witnessing the suffering of the lower classes, the nascent proletariat, and the greed and indifference of the upper crust of society, the Capitalist class. That is when, as a follow up, he took the task of turning this same knowledge of History into a political tool, a theory and an ideology for change. As a natural (for him) conclusion to his monumental work he proposed that there had to be a social and political revolution in which the nascent proletariat, the newly born class brought about by industrialization, should take power and then confiscate the means of production from the Capitalists so they would go on producing goods, and a profit, for the benefit of the whole of society and not just for the elite. That is basically Political Marxism, which as you point out, has shown to come up rather short of results more than a century and a half later. (Even if I would chalk up Communist China as the single most relevant success of Political Marxism, maybe the one which will be the historical game changer after all).

    In any case, you are deadly wrong when stating that “class struggle” is not happening. That is as wrong as saying that gravity or the Internet are not happening. Just look around you and tell me again that Class Struggle is not happening. What is really happening is that in this struggle the working classes have been taking a bad beating for decades already, especially in the so-called West.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
    @gatobart

    In your comment 278 you didn't distinguish between ideological and political Marxism, you just said we are all Marxists, Marxism is alive, Wall Street practices Marxism, etc.

    Ok, so now you say that ideological Marxism is alive and kicking while political Marxism had come short of accomplishments after over a century of trying.

    Regarding ideological Marxism, first, it is certainly not scientific (as in a scientific discipline) but it could be interpreted as a scientific hypothesis about the evolution of human societies. There is some merit in the analysis of history by Marx. I guess I could admit that he saw a significant part of the social dynamics by highlighting the importance of the appropriation of the surplus from productive activities. He saw something that was happening and he argued that that something was determinant: the appropriation of the surplus. Wall Street actually seeks to appropriate all the surpluses it can lands her hands on. Does that make Wall Street Marxist? Answering yes is a logical error. The fact that Marx highlighted the importance of surplus appropriation does not make Marxists of those that during all of history have been appropriating the surpluses.

    From that time, the times of Marx and the Young Hegelians, of all the freien meeting at Hippel's wineshop in Berlin, the one that saw deeper, much deeper than Marx and Engels, the one that had a vision se profound that it contained Marx's vision as a particular case and as partial understanding, as well as those of the liberals and social democrats, was Johan Kaspar Schmidt, whose penname was Max Stirner. After reading Stirner's book, Marx reacted strongly and adapted his theories but Marx also was shocked by noting that Stirner's view was much deeper than his own so in The German Ideology he and Engels often resorts to cheap shots, ad hominem and plain insults instead of reasoned arguments.

    Regarding political Marxism, the success of the CCP, raising hundred of millions from poverty in China, and the industrilization of the Soviet Union and her success in several highly technical areas, means that Marxists can really achieve great things when they are not fanatical orcs.

    Yes you are right that class struggle is happening, it is happening all the time, it happens when anybody takes a job and accepts a salary thus giving away the surplus to the owner. What I meant is that class struggle is not currently having much impact on the evolution of societies. There are no class-struggle motivated revolutions, at least no capitalist country seems to be headed in that direction.

    Replies: @gatobart

  • @Arthur MacBride
    @gatobart


    So the guy is an Hindu after all. It figures.
     
    Have you ever heard of Erich Koch ?
    He was in charge of the E Prussia Kommissariat then Ukraine after the Wehrmacht swept through in Op Barbarossa. The Ukrainians (mostly) welcomed the Germans as liberators and wished to assist their drive against judeo-bolshevism.

    However Koch treated them with contempt as untermenschen.
    He is widely reported as saying -- "If I find a Ukrainian who is worthy of sitting at the same table with me, I must have him shot," ...

    This was when English and American Whites were bombing German White civilians in their heroic campaign for Mr Rothschild. Rather like your American antifa/blm whites burning your cities or enlisting in your army to bomb Israel's enemies.

    Subsequently Koch organised the Volkssturm of old and disabled to counter the Red Army advance and then ran away leaving them to their fate.

    Perhaps, like Koch (who in some quarters is considered an Allied spy) you also wish to spurn potential or real allies/friends ?
    History shows how well that policy turned out.

    Alfred Rosenberg wanted to improve the education system in the Ukraine and build a university in Kiev. The Reich Commissioner for the Ukraine, Erich Koch disagreed and closed the schools saying, "Ukrainian children need no schools. What they have to learn will be taught them by their German masters.''
     
    https://spartacus-educational.com/GERkoch.htm

    Replies: @gatobart

    All that is well known so I can’t grasp what is your point. Maybe you are responding to the wrong tree…I mean post?

    “Rather like your American antifa/blm whites burning your cities or enlisting in your army to bomb Israel’s enemies.”

    And I have no idea what you are talking about. My cities…? My army? I didn’t know that the Chilean or the Canadian armies were into any of that.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
    @gatobart


    I can’t grasp what is your point.
     
    You surely cannot be so obtuse.

    My point is -- obviously -- on the foolishness of making enemies without due cause.

    It is about needlessly expressing contempt for others (who might be on your side) through arrogant dismissive phrases such as the one you used.

    Replies: @gatobart

  • @RadicalCenter
    @gatobart

    Gringo is a rude derogatory racial / ethnic term, like spic. Other than that, thank you for the explanation.

    Our family will gladly visit and spend money in a country that does not impose foolish mandates re this badly exaggerated virus. We will do so to reward the country and go where we are treated like reasonably free, rational adults — whether they have many famous or easily accessible tourist sites or not. We’ll enjoy interacting with the people; making an attempt at the rudiments of conversation in their language; learning a little something about their culture and mindset; trying a broad range of their cuisine (and wine, if applicable ;) and just being somewhere that’s sufficiently safe/stable but quite different than we are accustomed to.

    Of the people who hold out longer-term against submitting to these unnecessary “vaccines’, I wonder what percentage has sufficient disposable income to undertake foreign leisure travel. In other words, are vaccine refuseniks disproportionately from higher-income households, disproportionately from lower-income households, or neither?

    Replies: @gatobart, @gatobart

    Oh, BTW, an example just popped out of my mind which proves you wrong. That of “American” pop singer Dean Reed (who after showing Left wing tendencies and sympathy for the politics of the Soviet Block ended up emigrating to then East Germany, GDR, where he died) and who visited Chile during the Allende government to express his backing of the Chilean Socialist experiment. The local Left wing media used to call him El Gringo Choro (The Cool Gringo).

    Also:

    Our family will gladly visit and spend money in a country that does not impose foolish mandates re this badly exaggerated virus.

    Then there are very few countries you will be able to visit in the future, including almost all of the Americas, including Canada, where I live and where PM Trudeau is pondering about imposing vaccine passports. I don’t mean I agree with any of that, I am just talking about facts.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @gatobart

    Probably right. Bye bye Canada et al., then. This won’t last forever, although it may outlast a middle-aged guy like me.

    , @RadicalCenter
    @gatobart

    To us and the sixty-million-plus Hispanics in our country — more than half of whom are Mexican and almost none of whom are Chilean — “gringo” is not a positive term.

    Among the 100-million-plus Mexicans in Mexico, it’s not a positive term either, is it?

    But yeah, I wonder more how “gringo” is used in, say, some other Spanish-speaking country with a real significant population like, Uruguay or Panama.

    Replies: @gatobart, @gatobart

  • @RadicalCenter
    @gatobart

    Gringo is a rude derogatory racial / ethnic term, like spic. Other than that, thank you for the explanation.

    Our family will gladly visit and spend money in a country that does not impose foolish mandates re this badly exaggerated virus. We will do so to reward the country and go where we are treated like reasonably free, rational adults — whether they have many famous or easily accessible tourist sites or not. We’ll enjoy interacting with the people; making an attempt at the rudiments of conversation in their language; learning a little something about their culture and mindset; trying a broad range of their cuisine (and wine, if applicable ;) and just being somewhere that’s sufficiently safe/stable but quite different than we are accustomed to.

    Of the people who hold out longer-term against submitting to these unnecessary “vaccines’, I wonder what percentage has sufficient disposable income to undertake foreign leisure travel. In other words, are vaccine refuseniks disproportionately from higher-income households, disproportionately from lower-income households, or neither?

    Replies: @gatobart, @gatobart

    Gringo is a rude derogatory racial / ethnic term, like spic.

    I disagree. And I was born and grew up within the culture that uses it every day. Gringo, as used by Latinos in general, has a double meaning, depending… Depending on what…? Depending of the context. It is like the collective term used by Chileans (and others) to refer to themselves, the Roto Chileno. When Chileans praise the courage and bravery of their own ancestors during past wars with their neighbors, or to their own resilience during the natural disasters so common in the country, they refer to their collective as the Roto Chileno. But at the same time Roto is used, specially by the elite and the middle class, to refer to the lower strata of society, the poor and the wretched. It is also a qualifier and a noon to refer to the lack of manners and education of someone (Don’t fart while at the table, Don’t be roto, or a roto). Also, many Peruvians who are still hurting for their defeat in the War of 1879-84 call Chileans in general Rotos probably ignoring that in the context of their comments the word comes out like flattery. As Roto, Gringo isn’t in any way a term like spic, which is spiteful and hateful in ANY possible occasion. To me personally Gringo is anyone who was born in the U.S, and has English as his first language…and has the looks of it.

    • Replies: @republic
    @gatobart

    It is an insult when used by Mexicans

    Replies: @gatobart

  • @Vojkan
    @some_loon

    My take on loony conspiracy theories is that they are created on purpose, to discredit all critics of current policies by labelling them as nutty conspiracists.

    As for your understanding of vaccines, mine is the same as yours, for jabs based on the pathogen that causes the disease. None of the anti-covid jabs are based on the alleged pathogen, so we don't really know. Though logically, vaccinated people should be quarantined for the time needed by their organisms to produce the right antibodies.

    Now, with regards to the whole Covid crisis, imho, there's no real conspiracy behind it. Conspiracies usually don't have shifting narratives; they usually have one to which the conspirators stick, even when it becomes obvious that it just doesn't hold water, as for instance 9/11.

    No, Covid is more a crisis created out of opportunity that evolved how it evolved simply because Western elites are made of vain, greedy morons and because common sense has been replaced by magical thinking. To answer why countries adopted identical and equally inefficient measures to tackle the crisis, ask yourself what do dunces in a classroom do when given a test with a problem that they are unable to solve. They copy from the kid next to them, in their minds it's better than to hand a blank sheet to the teacher.

    Out of opportunism, guided by magical thinking rather than common sense, governments created a situation without issue for themselves and that in turn created an opportunity for Big Pharma. There is nothing more to the story.

    As for Bill Gates's role, did he create MS-DOS and Windows or did he appropriate somebody else's work and renamed it? There is no doubt that the guy is rapacious but do you really think him of elaborating such a conspiracy?

    Replies: @Vojkan, @The Real World, @some_loon, @some_loon, @some_loon

    “As for Bill Gates’s role, did he create MS-DOS and Windows or did he appropriate somebody else’s work and renamed it? There is no doubt that the guy is rapacious but do you really think him [capable] of elaborating such a conspiracy?”

    I can’t say I’m all that well informed as to the history of computing, but it is well known that his role was simultaneously technical and entreprenurial, to answer your question (what prompted your question I do not know).

    There have been claims that others involved did not get due credit. Such is always the case. Did Edison invent the light bulb without help? Ford didn’t invent the automobile, right? Physio Control’s patent on the LifePak33 was successfully challenged. Or the guy who came up with intermittent widshield wipers. And what about the guy who invented the Pet Rock?

    Even Paul Allen got sidelined by Gates, it seems.

    So far as his current Corona plans, he’s rich enough if anyone is, probably smart enough, maybe has powerful friends enough, but I don’t think he’ll get it done. At least not this time.

  • @some_loon
    @Vojkan

    "Conspiracies usually don’t have shifting narratives; they usually have one to which the conspirators stick, even when it becomes obvious that it just doesn’t hold water, as for instance 9/11."

    I don't know if this is really true. Maybe it is in politics.

    The police, etc. investigate conspiracies all the time. Interviewing/interrogating suspected participants often leads to subjects changing their stories, shifting their viewpoints, and 'clarifying' earlier statements.

    Politicans, etc. are more likely to hold the party line, though, however suspect, maybe as they are often in league with the more important investigators.

    CNN could end the lockdowns themselves, more than any government could. They have chosen not to.

    I don't really know how much the 'narrative' of Covid-19 has really shifted. The demands made upon us have, but the grand claim that this is a 'horrible civilization-threatening plague that the world must take unprecedented measures to mitigate' has not changed, even when TPTB deny parts of the story.

    Various goalpost-moving statements have been tactical, as pursuasion is often by degrees and is a process, rather than an event. But all of it has reference to the above implanted idea.

    Replies: @Vojkan

    Regarding your first reply, the very principle of making the body synthesise itself the pathogen against which it has to fight has a sort of cartoonish “mad scientist’s experiment” aspect. Now, if people tell you that mad scientists are great and that you are criminal because you doubt them, what can you do?

    Regarding the shifting narratives, suspects change their stories when they become suspect and start being afraid of getting caught. Governments changed their stories before anyone suspected them of anything. At first they said that it was ridiculous to consider there was any threat to public health, then as the dead started piling up in nursing homes, imho because of deplorable treatment rather than because of the virus itself, they exaggerated the threat. Then, out of fear that there actually could be effective treatments using HCQ or ivermectin that could cure patients, they started fearing that their successive reactions could betray their incompetence, they forbade their prescription, so that the epidemics could continue, knowing that it wasn’t as life-threatening as they pretended. While they looked for a face-saving way out, the dead elders and the occasional more fragile younger victim would come handy to support fearmongering.

    Then, a miracle happens, Big Pharma concocts jabs to stop a virus that is anyway in its death throes. Now they need people to get vaccinated because they cannot declare the end of the pandemics without mass vaccination because it would be an admission that Sweden or Belarus were right from the beginning. No, the only way this can end without them being proven to be criminally incompetent morons is that everybody gets injected.

    In short, they didn’t conspire, they just happen to be idiots and their “control freaks” side comes from their fear of people eventually noticing.

    NB: What I wrote is applicable to Europe. In the USA, things took a slightly different course as Democrats used Covid as a means to oust Trump.

    • Replies: @Alfred
    @Vojkan

    they didn’t conspire, they just happen to be idiots and their “control freaks” side comes from their fear of people eventually noticing

    Forgive me for saying this. I think you are being naive.

    Governments did not conspire together. Governments received orders from higher authorities. All institutions had been penetrated and corrupted - my very own Imperial College is a good example. The politicians just carried out their orders. These orders changed to take into account local conditions and any resistance encountered. Moving the goal posts constantly - witness Fauci and Johnson - is called ghosting. It is designed to confuse and demoralise ordinary people.

    The whole thing was planned over 30 years ago. The false flags in Scotland, Tasmania and Christchurch were designed to confiscate guns. Efforts to confiscate guns in the USA did not succeed. Hence, parts of the USA are where the resistance is most likely to succeed.

    The divorce of Bill Gates is a massive hole beneath the waterline for those behind this scam. I really hope that Melinda Gates comes clean and tells the public what the plan is all about. Maybe I am being optimistic.

    Here is CNN trying to pretend that the divorce had nothing to do with the virus and the fake vaccines. Everything they say is false - unless proven otherwise.

    The 'gray divorce' trend: As the Gates split shows, more older couples are getting divorced. Here's why

    https://i.ibb.co/7vfkhRg/div1.jpg

    Replies: @Vojkan, @The Real World

  • @gatobart
    @Levtraro

    So the guy is an Hindu after all. It figures. After haring crossed paths with many of them in Montreal, Canada,where they form a sizable community, I have come to the conclusion that they see their abandonment by the British in 1948 as one of the greatest tragedies in their History and that they are still longing for the return of the Raj. Mahatma Gandhi was a fake, just as Nelson Mandela. He never meant true Independence for India, just a cosmetic one but the Brits misinterpreted him and they just left. And they are still crying for it. Just look at how envious they are they of the Chinese, who have become after all a truly independent nation and the world superpower they will never be, and how easy is for the Anglo Saxons to make them do their dirty job in that neck of the woods, specially against China and Pakistan.

    Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain, @Arthur MacBride, @Malla

    So the guy is an Hindu after all. It figures.

    Have you ever heard of Erich Koch ?
    He was in charge of the E Prussia Kommissariat then Ukraine after the Wehrmacht swept through in Op Barbarossa. The Ukrainians (mostly) welcomed the Germans as liberators and wished to assist their drive against judeo-bolshevism.

    However Koch treated them with contempt as untermenschen.
    He is widely reported as saying — “If I find a Ukrainian who is worthy of sitting at the same table with me, I must have him shot,” …

    This was when English and American Whites were bombing German White civilians in their heroic campaign for Mr Rothschild. Rather like your American antifa/blm whites burning your cities or enlisting in your army to bomb Israel’s enemies.

    Subsequently Koch organised the Volkssturm of old and disabled to counter the Red Army advance and then ran away leaving them to their fate.

    Perhaps, like Koch (who in some quarters is considered an Allied spy) you also wish to spurn potential or real allies/friends ?
    History shows how well that policy turned out.

    Alfred Rosenberg wanted to improve the education system in the Ukraine and build a university in Kiev. The Reich Commissioner for the Ukraine, Erich Koch disagreed and closed the schools saying, “Ukrainian children need no schools. What they have to learn will be taught them by their German masters.”

    https://spartacus-educational.com/GERkoch.htm

    • Replies: @gatobart
    @Arthur MacBride

    All that is well known so I can't grasp what is your point. Maybe you are responding to the wrong tree...I mean post?

    "Rather like your American antifa/blm whites burning your cities or enlisting in your army to bomb Israel’s enemies."

    And I have no idea what you are talking about. My cities...? My army? I didn't know that the Chilean or the Canadian armies were into any of that.

    Replies: @Arthur MacBride

  • @Vojkan
    @some_loon

    My take on loony conspiracy theories is that they are created on purpose, to discredit all critics of current policies by labelling them as nutty conspiracists.

    As for your understanding of vaccines, mine is the same as yours, for jabs based on the pathogen that causes the disease. None of the anti-covid jabs are based on the alleged pathogen, so we don't really know. Though logically, vaccinated people should be quarantined for the time needed by their organisms to produce the right antibodies.

    Now, with regards to the whole Covid crisis, imho, there's no real conspiracy behind it. Conspiracies usually don't have shifting narratives; they usually have one to which the conspirators stick, even when it becomes obvious that it just doesn't hold water, as for instance 9/11.

    No, Covid is more a crisis created out of opportunity that evolved how it evolved simply because Western elites are made of vain, greedy morons and because common sense has been replaced by magical thinking. To answer why countries adopted identical and equally inefficient measures to tackle the crisis, ask yourself what do dunces in a classroom do when given a test with a problem that they are unable to solve. They copy from the kid next to them, in their minds it's better than to hand a blank sheet to the teacher.

    Out of opportunism, guided by magical thinking rather than common sense, governments created a situation without issue for themselves and that in turn created an opportunity for Big Pharma. There is nothing more to the story.

    As for Bill Gates's role, did he create MS-DOS and Windows or did he appropriate somebody else's work and renamed it? There is no doubt that the guy is rapacious but do you really think him of elaborating such a conspiracy?

    Replies: @Vojkan, @The Real World, @some_loon, @some_loon, @some_loon

    “Conspiracies usually don’t have shifting narratives; they usually have one to which the conspirators stick, even when it becomes obvious that it just doesn’t hold water, as for instance 9/11.”

    I don’t know if this is really true. Maybe it is in politics.

    The police, etc. investigate conspiracies all the time. Interviewing/interrogating suspected participants often leads to subjects changing their stories, shifting their viewpoints, and ‘clarifying’ earlier statements.

    Politicans, etc. are more likely to hold the party line, though, however suspect, maybe as they are often in league with the more important investigators.

    CNN could end the lockdowns themselves, more than any government could. They have chosen not to.

    I don’t really know how much the ‘narrative’ of Covid-19 has really shifted. The demands made upon us have, but the grand claim that this is a ‘horrible civilization-threatening plague that the world must take unprecedented measures to mitigate’ has not changed, even when TPTB deny parts of the story.

    Various goalpost-moving statements have been tactical, as pursuasion is often by degrees and is a process, rather than an event. But all of it has reference to the above implanted idea.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
    @some_loon

    Regarding your first reply, the very principle of making the body synthesise itself the pathogen against which it has to fight has a sort of cartoonish "mad scientist's experiment" aspect. Now, if people tell you that mad scientists are great and that you are criminal because you doubt them, what can you do?

    Regarding the shifting narratives, suspects change their stories when they become suspect and start being afraid of getting caught. Governments changed their stories before anyone suspected them of anything. At first they said that it was ridiculous to consider there was any threat to public health, then as the dead started piling up in nursing homes, imho because of deplorable treatment rather than because of the virus itself, they exaggerated the threat. Then, out of fear that there actually could be effective treatments using HCQ or ivermectin that could cure patients, they started fearing that their successive reactions could betray their incompetence, they forbade their prescription, so that the epidemics could continue, knowing that it wasn't as life-threatening as they pretended. While they looked for a face-saving way out, the dead elders and the occasional more fragile younger victim would come handy to support fearmongering.

    Then, a miracle happens, Big Pharma concocts jabs to stop a virus that is anyway in its death throes. Now they need people to get vaccinated because they cannot declare the end of the pandemics without mass vaccination because it would be an admission that Sweden or Belarus were right from the beginning. No, the only way this can end without them being proven to be criminally incompetent morons is that everybody gets injected.

    In short, they didn't conspire, they just happen to be idiots and their "control freaks" side comes from their fear of people eventually noticing.

    NB: What I wrote is applicable to Europe. In the USA, things took a slightly different course as Democrats used Covid as a means to oust Trump.

    Replies: @Alfred

  • @Vojkan
    @some_loon

    My take on loony conspiracy theories is that they are created on purpose, to discredit all critics of current policies by labelling them as nutty conspiracists.

    As for your understanding of vaccines, mine is the same as yours, for jabs based on the pathogen that causes the disease. None of the anti-covid jabs are based on the alleged pathogen, so we don't really know. Though logically, vaccinated people should be quarantined for the time needed by their organisms to produce the right antibodies.

    Now, with regards to the whole Covid crisis, imho, there's no real conspiracy behind it. Conspiracies usually don't have shifting narratives; they usually have one to which the conspirators stick, even when it becomes obvious that it just doesn't hold water, as for instance 9/11.

    No, Covid is more a crisis created out of opportunity that evolved how it evolved simply because Western elites are made of vain, greedy morons and because common sense has been replaced by magical thinking. To answer why countries adopted identical and equally inefficient measures to tackle the crisis, ask yourself what do dunces in a classroom do when given a test with a problem that they are unable to solve. They copy from the kid next to them, in their minds it's better than to hand a blank sheet to the teacher.

    Out of opportunism, guided by magical thinking rather than common sense, governments created a situation without issue for themselves and that in turn created an opportunity for Big Pharma. There is nothing more to the story.

    As for Bill Gates's role, did he create MS-DOS and Windows or did he appropriate somebody else's work and renamed it? There is no doubt that the guy is rapacious but do you really think him of elaborating such a conspiracy?

    Replies: @Vojkan, @The Real World, @some_loon, @some_loon, @some_loon

    “None of the anti-covid jabs are based on the alleged pathogen, so we don’t really know.”

    True and true, but both the mRNA and the viral vector jabs provoke an immune response to spike proteins found in Covid-19, by making the body produce those proteins, if we are to believe what we’ve been told about these things.

    This, and the admitted side-effects to these substances, suggest to me that the immune system is being taxed post-jab, the jab setting up the right-cross and left-hook, maybe followed by an uppercut, or maybe a clinch and alternating knees if post-innoculation exposure a virus may be compared to these.

    So, while we ‘don’t really know’, it does look like a more severe version of phenomena that are known to occur with conventional vaccines, whatever is really happpening with this.

  • @gatobart
    @BlackFlag

    Financial capitalism uses Marxism in order to push for further global integration,

    Wow, I finally found someone who said it. I have always been astounded at the incredible naivete and ignorance of those self-professed anti-Communists who keep babbling about Marxism being dead, about Marxism being wrong, about Marxism being a wacky and unrealistic theory which has no place in the modern world anyway. blah, blah, blah and I have felt at the time the impulse to tell them the truth, but then I sigh and just say to myself, why, why waste my time with people who don't know their own backside from their elbow. But anyway, what I would say to them is: Fools! Marxism is more alive than ever! In fact Marxism is the most popular economic doctrine at this day and age, In fact Wall Street is the most important user of Marxism! We are all Marxists! And then I would explain to them that the main and crucial contribution of Karl Marx to mankind is the idea, or the realization, that the basis for the entire human society is the economy, the goods and services Man produces and provides to others to make possible the existence of such society. And even more important, the way he produces them. That is what Marx himself called the infrastructure, upon it everything else., politics, religion, culture in general, rests, everything. Because see, until then. the mid-1840s, philosophers of History (which he appropriately denounced as nothing more than propagandists of the established order ("The dominant ideology is the ideology of the dominant class, the elite") attributed Historic facts to every possible cause they could imagine, specially wars and revolutions ("This war here happened because King Bob hated Queen Mafalda", "This other war happened because some prince from A kidnapped some chick from kingdom B", etc) But then came Marx and said, like the Clinton campaign of 1992, "No, no, no! It's all about the economy stupids!" He proceeded them to savage and ridiculed them in his little book titled The Misery of Philosophy one which everyone should read just to enjoy the humor in it. At one point for example he ridicules the "rebels", the self declared opposition of his time, the fake dissenters who we use to call nowadays controlled opposition (are you listening, Alex Jones...?) which he said think of themselves as raging wolves roaring and terrorizing with their roars the tenants of the establishment when in fact they are nothing more than docile sheep bleating hopelessly, huddled at the center of the enclosure where their masters keep them captives. In any case, to wrap up, some may love Marxism, some may hate it, but no matter their position on it, like gravity and cellphones, everyone has to use it.

    Replies: @Levtraro, @Malla

    Mmmh I don’t know. Marxism is also about class war which is not happening, the dictatorship of the proletariat which is not happening, ownership of the means of productions by the workers which is not happening, and the whithering away of the State in advanced communism which is not happening. The only thing marx-ish that is happening is central planning of the economy, what central banks and other state agencies do. So I think saying that Marxism is alive and well is more like a rethorical device.

    • Replies: @gatobart
    @Levtraro

    You are both right and wrong at the same time because you are referring to two different things as if there were just one: Scientific Marxism and Political Marxism. Only understanding this dichotomy you may get the whole idea. Scientific Marxism, a.k.a. Historic Materialism, is basically what I was referring to. To achieve it, Marx (and Engels) took apart the History of Civilization and analyzed the whole of it with a cold, dispassionate eye, trying to determine what was behind the events that had created this civilization, what had been the forces of change and evolution, and which had finally brought it to the industrial age. So they (rightly) concluded that it was something as simple as survival, the procurement of the basics to carry on living that all human need, and so society as a whole. That at first (Food, shelter and clothing) and for that primitive humans had to gather and cooperate and form a society (tribe, clan). Then, when some amount of surplus was produced there was always someone to appropriate it and use it to exert some kind of control over the rest of the crowd. That was what gave origin to an elite, to social classes and finally to class struggle. That is basically Marxism as a scientific doctrine, which has become generally accepted by everyone, a doctrine we know as Historic Materialism. Marx could have stopped at that but I guess he couldn’t help, he felt he had to “provide a solution, a way out” for all the troubles Man had found on his way to the industrial age, even more when he was personally witnessing the suffering of the lower classes, the nascent proletariat, and the greed and indifference of the upper crust of society, the Capitalist class. That is when, as a follow up, he took the task of turning this same knowledge of History into a political tool, a theory and an ideology for change. As a natural (for him) conclusion to his monumental work he proposed that there had to be a social and political revolution in which the nascent proletariat, the newly born class brought about by industrialization, should take power and then confiscate the means of production from the Capitalists so they would go on producing goods, and a profit, for the benefit of the whole of society and not just for the elite. That is basically Political Marxism, which as you point out, has shown to come up rather short of results more than a century and a half later. (Even if I would chalk up Communist China as the single most relevant success of Political Marxism, maybe the one which will be the historical game changer after all).

    In any case, you are deadly wrong when stating that “class struggle” is not happening. That is as wrong as saying that gravity or the Internet are not happening. Just look around you and tell me again that Class Struggle is not happening. What is really happening is that in this struggle the working classes have been taking a bad beating for decades already, especially in the so-called West.

    Replies: @Levtraro

  • @Malla
    @BlackFlag

    Yup. Accurate.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

  • @gatobart
    @Levtraro

    So the guy is an Hindu after all. It figures. After haring crossed paths with many of them in Montreal, Canada,where they form a sizable community, I have come to the conclusion that they see their abandonment by the British in 1948 as one of the greatest tragedies in their History and that they are still longing for the return of the Raj. Mahatma Gandhi was a fake, just as Nelson Mandela. He never meant true Independence for India, just a cosmetic one but the Brits misinterpreted him and they just left. And they are still crying for it. Just look at how envious they are they of the Chinese, who have become after all a truly independent nation and the world superpower they will never be, and how easy is for the Anglo Saxons to make them do their dirty job in that neck of the woods, specially against China and Pakistan.

    Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain, @Arthur MacBride, @Malla

    Excellent. The Indian ruling class are beyond useless. The Chinese have bent over backwards to accommodate them, but all they get is gobs of spittle in their faces from deluded clowns who think that the glorious West actually likes them and treats them as ‘honorary Whites’. The laughable chimaera of ‘India surpassing China’ now being just a sad, sick, joke. they have been chosen, instead, to act as sacrificial lambs in military aggressions. Very sad, as many Indians, if freed of Hindutva fascism, caste malignancy and ‘democrazy’ could create wonders. For a start I’d put the admirable Sikhs in charge of economic policy and rural poverty reduction and empowerment. The Brahmins would hate that.

    • Replies: @Malla
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Here comes Mulga the idiot monkey and his smelly farts.


    The Chinese have bent over backwards to accommodate them
     
    This is one thing you got correct, I agree. I feel sad for the disspointment the Chinese side has got But remember it is China who made India its enemy in 1950s by acting like an asshole and treating newly independent revolutionary India as its enemy. Karma is a bitch.

    the glorious West actually likes them and treats them as ‘honorary Whites’.
     
    The Indian elites do not want to be honorary Whites. Stop spewing the same bullshit. Get your head out of your diseased ass. Opposing China does not make one a slave of Whitey. India looks at China like an imperialist country. Secondly India does not trust the USA completely. Indeed Joe Biden, lackey of China is trying to destroy the QUAD for his Chinese masters.

    Hindutva fascism
     
    Hindutva is Indian Nationalism at its purest, if you do not understand this you understand nothing. The world does not run according to the wishes of China. CHINA IS NOT INDIA's MASTER. You are not middle Kingdom anymore. Hindutva is at its core an ANTI-WESTERN movement. A super DECOLONISATION movement. BTW I do not support Hindutva. And I support good Indo-China relations. But I am not going to tolerate bullshit.
    The World is not CHina vs the West or Communism vs West. It is much more complicated but that is beyond simpletons like you or gatofart.

    Is Turkey a slave of Whitey?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_94BtTVxo4
    Turkey cuts off water supplies to Chinese embassy
    Is Philippines a slave of Whitey?
    https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/d8/images/methode/2021/05/05/4096c93c-ac11-11eb-9c9f-63ba12e765d1_972x_000135.JPG
    Philippine Foreign Secretary Teddy Locsin's recent tweet
    Is Vietnam slave of Whitey?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfOJrIvvq7s
    Vietnam stands up to China

    Replies: @anon

  • @gatobart
    @RadicalCenter

    Chile is in no way like Mexico or Peru, or Brazil, or Cuba when it comes to tourism. I have no numbers but I trust most of the tourism in Chile is local, Chileans going from one place to another. Chile has no Teotihuacan or Macchu Pichu, no Corcovado or el Cuzco so there is no much for the foreigner to come see in the country itself. In fact the two most frequented places I know of which attract foreign tourism are far, far away from the center itself: Easter Island, 4000 kms, from the continent, and the Towers of Payne, in the very south and foreigners who come to Chile come most of the time specifically to visit them. The Atacama desert could be the third place too. So I guess a gringo boycott to Chile in this regard won't make much of a difference.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Gringo is a rude derogatory racial / ethnic term, like spic. Other than that, thank you for the explanation.

    Our family will gladly visit and spend money in a country that does not impose foolish mandates re this badly exaggerated virus. We will do so to reward the country and go where we are treated like reasonably free, rational adults — whether they have many famous or easily accessible tourist sites or not. We’ll enjoy interacting with the people; making an attempt at the rudiments of conversation in their language; learning a little something about their culture and mindset; trying a broad range of their cuisine (and wine, if applicable 😉 and just being somewhere that’s sufficiently safe/stable but quite different than we are accustomed to.

    Of the people who hold out longer-term against submitting to these unnecessary “vaccines’, I wonder what percentage has sufficient disposable income to undertake foreign leisure travel. In other words, are vaccine refuseniks disproportionately from higher-income households, disproportionately from lower-income households, or neither?

    • Replies: @gatobart
    @RadicalCenter

    Gringo is a rude derogatory racial / ethnic term, like spic.

    I disagree. And I was born and grew up within the culture that uses it every day. Gringo, as used by Latinos in general, has a double meaning, depending... Depending on what...? Depending of the context. It is like the collective term used by Chileans (and others) to refer to themselves, the Roto Chileno. When Chileans praise the courage and bravery of their own ancestors during past wars with their neighbors, or to their own resilience during the natural disasters so common in the country, they refer to their collective as the Roto Chileno. But at the same time Roto is used, specially by the elite and the middle class, to refer to the lower strata of society, the poor and the wretched. It is also a qualifier and a noon to refer to the lack of manners and education of someone (Don't fart while at the table, Don't be roto, or a roto). Also, many Peruvians who are still hurting for their defeat in the War of 1879-84 call Chileans in general Rotos probably ignoring that in the context of their comments the word comes out like flattery. As Roto, Gringo isn't in any way a term like spic, which is spiteful and hateful in ANY possible occasion. To me personally Gringo is anyone who was born in the U.S, and has English as his first language...and has the looks of it.

    Replies: @republic

    , @gatobart
    @RadicalCenter

    Oh, BTW, an example just popped out of my mind which proves you wrong. That of "American" pop singer Dean Reed (who after showing Left wing tendencies and sympathy for the politics of the Soviet Block ended up emigrating to then East Germany, GDR, where he died) and who visited Chile during the Allende government to express his backing of the Chilean Socialist experiment. The local Left wing media used to call him El Gringo Choro (The Cool Gringo).

    Also:

    Our family will gladly visit and spend money in a country that does not impose foolish mandates re this badly exaggerated virus.

    Then there are very few countries you will be able to visit in the future, including almost all of the Americas, including Canada, where I live and where PM Trudeau is pondering about imposing vaccine passports. I don't mean I agree with any of that, I am just talking about facts.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @RadicalCenter

  • @The Real World
    @Vojkan

    I would encourage you to remove the words loony and theory (those two words evidence MSM programming, btw) and do some deep dive research on conspiracies.

    Serbia may not have many going on but I can you assure that America is overloaded with them! Locally, regionally and at the nation level it is epidemic.

    This provides a worthy start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

    Meanwhile, you're entitled to believe as you like about Covid. I maintain that it is an engineered bioweapon and, indeed, a global false flag operation.

    Replies: @Vojkan

    I may again have lacked clarity. I don’t say that every story of a conspiracy is loony, I say that the looniest conspiracy theories may actually be created by conspirators to discredit all those who doubt official versions. I certainly believe that a conspiracy is behind 9/11.

    Regarding Serbia and Serbs in general, Americans have served us at least five false flags to justify sanctions and military aggression, four during the war in Bosnia-Herzegovina – including one at the very start of the war in which mostly Serbs waiting in line for bread were massacred and were presented as muslims killed by Serbs – and one to launch the war for Kosovo. They even tried to engineer a sixth during that war, a massacre of Albanian refugees in Kukesh, Albania, by the Serb aviation, with Christiane Amanpour and CNN cameras ready to report on it but we learnt of it in advance and accumulated evidence before it could happen. So I have no doubt about the methods the American “deep state” to keep the sheeple obedient and to advance the interests of the Jewish lobby and of what CJ Hopkins calls the GloboCorp.

    Now, with regards to the coronavirus, I don’t know in what lab it’s been created, heck, I don’t know if it even exists as to this day, it hasn’t been officially isolated, it may be a bioweapon but its effects are too random and bioweapons unlike chemical weapons usually have antidotes before they’re unleashed – they’re not shoot-and-forget, they can return as boomerangs and hit you if you’re unprepared -, and it does reek a “mad scientist” scent.

    However, I believe governments weren’t in any conspiracy when the whole thing started, as they were genuinely taken aback by the crisis unfolding and had totally out of synch, contradictory reactions. They simply didn’t know what to do. Maybe some evil mind did indeed plan the whole thing but I don’t think it was Schwab or Gates as they simply don’t have the intellectual capacity to pull off something that complex and I don’t think Trump or Macron or Johnson knew of the plan. I did say in a comment on this site a year ago that the whole thing resembled a giant psy-op but that psy-op wasn’t necessarily the result of a conspiracy. It may well have been that TPTB simply jumped on the opportunity to tighten their grip on society. It may well be that as they have shown time and again, they are incapable to predict let alone deal with the consequences of their actions and that Big Pharma saw that they had no idea how to escape from the trap into which they’ve put themselves and seized the opportunity to sell whatever concoction they come up with as a ticket out of the crisis.

    I think we often credit TPTB with way more intellectual capacity than they actually have. To paraphrase Bush the Lesser, let’s not “misoverestimate” them. The Covid crisis was far too complex with far too random possibilities of evolution for them to have planned it whole in advance.

    • Replies: @The Real World
    @Vojkan

    The reason I mentioned removing looney and theory is because in the USA both words are used constantly by the media, pundits, politicians, etc. to intentionally distract the weak-minded from believing that there are actually such things as conspiracies. They try to imply that all 3 words are ONE WORD and they are succeeding. Numerous times, I have had to alert people who use that 3-word phrase in my presence that "conspiracy is a real word with real meaning and they most certainly exist and always have". At least half the time I get a confused look. Yeah, it's that bad.

    There are sooooo many aspects about the Covid situation and the relatively uniform reactions and policies around it, with global Govts mostly on-board and operating in coordination -- the pattern becomes obvious. Btw, there are two African heads-of-state (not old) who publicly resisted the pressure to conform to Covid policies and they are now dead. Many other countries buckled because the World Economic Forum or World Bank put the financial screws to them or incentivized them mightily with big loans at tiny rates. In other words, they were coerced. It's not as hard to execute something like this as you may think if the elites are willing to use mafia tactics and they are willing.

    In the USA, the policy contrasts are shockingly stark between states with Democrat Governors versus Republican Governors. You can't believe how obvious it is that Dem Governors are taking orders from elsewhere, outside their states! They are intentionally destroying small businesses and screwing up young children by keeping them out of in-person learning or making them wear masks 7 hours a day if they are in school! It's sick and intentional. They are psychologically breaking them down with more planned, I have no doubt. These are not coincidences.


    and bioweapons unlike chemical weapons usually have antidotes before they’re unleashed.
     
    They did have have the "antidote" ahead of time. The fake vaccines weren't developed in mere months; they've had them waiting. What's the viewpoint of the Serbians regarding the vaccines?

    Replies: @Vojkan

  • @Malla
    @Ray Caruso

    Speaking of Brazil, there is an awesome Brazilian movie I would recommend. One of the most anti-woke movie you could ever see. The reality of ruthless drug traffickers in flavelas, police corruption, leftist woke naive middle class naive Brazilian college students who do not understand how the world works brainwashed by their Marxist professors and listening to songs like "F..k the Police'. Two of those Brazilian kids doing social service in the flavelas get brutally killed by gangsters. This move could destroy dumb childish Wokes and leftards as it shows raw reality. BLM destroyer.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9UbCmI_VSM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb-rUfBTQ1g

    ELITE SQUAD (TROPA DE ELITE) Trailers
    ELITE SQUAD (TROPA DE ELITE) is about BOPE, the elite police squads on Rio and it is an intense and astonishing look at Rio de Janeiro's notorious favelas, the volatile slums on the edge of the city. The film is set in 1997 and presents an intimate look at the city's vast and intricate web of corruption.

    Drug trafficking militias have virtual control within the favelas while the police run their criminal enterprises outside. The elite BOPE force (State Police Special Operations Battalion) combats drug trafficking --keeping order has its price though and their actions make it difficult to distinguish right from wrong and justice from revenge.

    BOPE Captain Nascimento (Wagner Moura) is facing a crisis: in addition to the pressures of fighting within war zones, the Captain must find and train his own replacement so he can escape the day to day violence and be close to his wife who is about to give birth to their first child.

    Two of the force's newest recruits, Neto (Caio Junqueira) and Matias (André Ramiro), are childhood friends: one is quick on the trigger to maintain order and the other refuses to compromise his ideals. Together they are the perfect replacement. Alone they may not have what it takes to survive.

    You might get the movie free on youtube with English subtitles.

    Replies: @Ray Caruso, @Capitao Nascimento

    Thanks for the rec, but I’ve seen these. They really are better than any US cop movie.

  • @Levtraro
    @Malla


    Remember I live in the Third World, I am not some naive fool Whitey leftard idiot, who can be fooled easily. I have seen the problems of the Third World first hand. Most of our problems are due to the nature and behaviour of our popukation themselves.
     
    Speak for yourself, Chileans are incomparable more civilized and advanced than Indians.

    Replies: @gatobart, @Malla

    Speak for yourself, Chileans are incomparable more civilized and advanced than Indians.

    Why write comments like a buffoon? I did not specify Chile, I was writing about the Third World in general and their idiotic understanding of history and why some populations succeed and some do not.

  • @BlackFlag
    @Malla

    Financial capitalism uses Marxism in order to push for further global integration. This is desirable because it leads to greater profits and more centralized control. In the end, true believer Marxists who believe in equality are "useful idiots" of financial capitalism.
    Is this accurate?

    Replies: @gatobart, @Malla

    Yup. Accurate.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Malla

    Look at this.

    https://twitter.com/whyvert/status/1390508527035183111

  • @Levtraro
    @Malla


    Remember I live in the Third World, I am not some naive fool Whitey leftard idiot, who can be fooled easily. I have seen the problems of the Third World first hand. Most of our problems are due to the nature and behaviour of our popukation themselves.
     
    Speak for yourself, Chileans are incomparable more civilized and advanced than Indians.

    Replies: @gatobart, @Malla

    So the guy is an Hindu after all. It figures. After haring crossed paths with many of them in Montreal, Canada,where they form a sizable community, I have come to the conclusion that they see their abandonment by the British in 1948 as one of the greatest tragedies in their History and that they are still longing for the return of the Raj. Mahatma Gandhi was a fake, just as Nelson Mandela. He never meant true Independence for India, just a cosmetic one but the Brits misinterpreted him and they just left. And they are still crying for it. Just look at how envious they are they of the Chinese, who have become after all a truly independent nation and the world superpower they will never be, and how easy is for the Anglo Saxons to make them do their dirty job in that neck of the woods, specially against China and Pakistan.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
    @gatobart

    Excellent. The Indian ruling class are beyond useless. The Chinese have bent over backwards to accommodate them, but all they get is gobs of spittle in their faces from deluded clowns who think that the glorious West actually likes them and treats them as 'honorary Whites'. The laughable chimaera of 'India surpassing China' now being just a sad, sick, joke. they have been chosen, instead, to act as sacrificial lambs in military aggressions. Very sad, as many Indians, if freed of Hindutva fascism, caste malignancy and 'democrazy' could create wonders. For a start I'd put the admirable Sikhs in charge of economic policy and rural poverty reduction and empowerment. The Brahmins would hate that.

    Replies: @Malla

    , @Arthur MacBride
    @gatobart


    So the guy is an Hindu after all. It figures.
     
    Have you ever heard of Erich Koch ?
    He was in charge of the E Prussia Kommissariat then Ukraine after the Wehrmacht swept through in Op Barbarossa. The Ukrainians (mostly) welcomed the Germans as liberators and wished to assist their drive against judeo-bolshevism.

    However Koch treated them with contempt as untermenschen.
    He is widely reported as saying -- "If I find a Ukrainian who is worthy of sitting at the same table with me, I must have him shot," ...

    This was when English and American Whites were bombing German White civilians in their heroic campaign for Mr Rothschild. Rather like your American antifa/blm whites burning your cities or enlisting in your army to bomb Israel's enemies.

    Subsequently Koch organised the Volkssturm of old and disabled to counter the Red Army advance and then ran away leaving them to their fate.

    Perhaps, like Koch (who in some quarters is considered an Allied spy) you also wish to spurn potential or real allies/friends ?
    History shows how well that policy turned out.

    Alfred Rosenberg wanted to improve the education system in the Ukraine and build a university in Kiev. The Reich Commissioner for the Ukraine, Erich Koch disagreed and closed the schools saying, "Ukrainian children need no schools. What they have to learn will be taught them by their German masters.''
     
    https://spartacus-educational.com/GERkoch.htm

    Replies: @gatobart

    , @Malla
    @gatobart


    After haring crossed paths with many of them in Montreal, Canada,where they form a sizable community, I have come to the conclusion that they see their abandonment by the British in 1948 as one of the greatest tragedies in their History and that they are still longing for the return of the Raj
     
    You are obviously lying or deluded. Most Indians do not miss the British Raj. Stop blabbering bullshit.

    Mahatma Gandhi was a fake, just as Nelson Mandela. He never meant true Independence for India,
     
    Gandhi or no Gandhi, there were forces in Britain itself who themselves dissolve the British Raj. Read the Montague Clemsford report.

    Just look at how envious they are they of the Chinese, who have become after all a truly independent nation and the world superpower they will never be,
     
    India is as independent as China is. India looks at China as an imperialist country. making an alliance with the West (which is falling apart lately) does not make you less independent.
    Many people in Africa believe China is colonizing Africa
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbCfmVtenlE
    Why Zambia Is Officially A Chinese Colony?
  • @Vojkan
    @some_loon

    My take on loony conspiracy theories is that they are created on purpose, to discredit all critics of current policies by labelling them as nutty conspiracists.

    As for your understanding of vaccines, mine is the same as yours, for jabs based on the pathogen that causes the disease. None of the anti-covid jabs are based on the alleged pathogen, so we don't really know. Though logically, vaccinated people should be quarantined for the time needed by their organisms to produce the right antibodies.

    Now, with regards to the whole Covid crisis, imho, there's no real conspiracy behind it. Conspiracies usually don't have shifting narratives; they usually have one to which the conspirators stick, even when it becomes obvious that it just doesn't hold water, as for instance 9/11.

    No, Covid is more a crisis created out of opportunity that evolved how it evolved simply because Western elites are made of vain, greedy morons and because common sense has been replaced by magical thinking. To answer why countries adopted identical and equally inefficient measures to tackle the crisis, ask yourself what do dunces in a classroom do when given a test with a problem that they are unable to solve. They copy from the kid next to them, in their minds it's better than to hand a blank sheet to the teacher.

    Out of opportunism, guided by magical thinking rather than common sense, governments created a situation without issue for themselves and that in turn created an opportunity for Big Pharma. There is nothing more to the story.

    As for Bill Gates's role, did he create MS-DOS and Windows or did he appropriate somebody else's work and renamed it? There is no doubt that the guy is rapacious but do you really think him of elaborating such a conspiracy?

    Replies: @Vojkan, @The Real World, @some_loon, @some_loon, @some_loon

    I would encourage you to remove the words loony and theory (those two words evidence MSM programming, btw) and do some deep dive research on conspiracies.

    Serbia may not have many going on but I can you assure that America is overloaded with them! Locally, regionally and at the nation level it is epidemic.

    This provides a worthy start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

    Meanwhile, you’re entitled to believe as you like about Covid. I maintain that it is an engineered bioweapon and, indeed, a global false flag operation.

    • Replies: @Vojkan
    @The Real World

    I may again have lacked clarity. I don't say that every story of a conspiracy is loony, I say that the looniest conspiracy theories may actually be created by conspirators to discredit all those who doubt official versions. I certainly believe that a conspiracy is behind 9/11.

    Regarding Serbia and Serbs in general, Americans have served us at least five false flags to justify sanctions and military aggression, four during the war in Bosnia-Herzegovina - including one at the very start of the war in which mostly Serbs waiting in line for bread were massacred and were presented as muslims killed by Serbs - and one to launch the war for Kosovo. They even tried to engineer a sixth during that war, a massacre of Albanian refugees in Kukesh, Albania, by the Serb aviation, with Christiane Amanpour and CNN cameras ready to report on it but we learnt of it in advance and accumulated evidence before it could happen. So I have no doubt about the methods the American "deep state" to keep the sheeple obedient and to advance the interests of the Jewish lobby and of what CJ Hopkins calls the GloboCorp.

    Now, with regards to the coronavirus, I don't know in what lab it's been created, heck, I don't know if it even exists as to this day, it hasn't been officially isolated, it may be a bioweapon but its effects are too random and bioweapons unlike chemical weapons usually have antidotes before they're unleashed - they're not shoot-and-forget, they can return as boomerangs and hit you if you're unprepared -, and it does reek a "mad scientist" scent.

    However, I believe governments weren't in any conspiracy when the whole thing started, as they were genuinely taken aback by the crisis unfolding and had totally out of synch, contradictory reactions. They simply didn't know what to do. Maybe some evil mind did indeed plan the whole thing but I don't think it was Schwab or Gates as they simply don't have the intellectual capacity to pull off something that complex and I don't think Trump or Macron or Johnson knew of the plan. I did say in a comment on this site a year ago that the whole thing resembled a giant psy-op but that psy-op wasn't necessarily the result of a conspiracy. It may well have been that TPTB simply jumped on the opportunity to tighten their grip on society. It may well be that as they have shown time and again, they are incapable to predict let alone deal with the consequences of their actions and that Big Pharma saw that they had no idea how to escape from the trap into which they've put themselves and seized the opportunity to sell whatever concoction they come up with as a ticket out of the crisis.

    I think we often credit TPTB with way more intellectual capacity than they actually have. To paraphrase Bush the Lesser, let's not "misoverestimate" them. The Covid crisis was far too complex with far too random possibilities of evolution for them to have planned it whole in advance.

    Replies: @The Real World

  • @RadicalCenter
    @Alfred

    Countries that do not impose this irrational requirement on visitors will see a sustained tourism boom.

    Replies: @Commentator Mike, @gatobart

    Chile is in no way like Mexico or Peru, or Brazil, or Cuba when it comes to tourism. I have no numbers but I trust most of the tourism in Chile is local, Chileans going from one place to another. Chile has no Teotihuacan or Macchu Pichu, no Corcovado or el Cuzco so there is no much for the foreigner to come see in the country itself. In fact the two most frequented places I know of which attract foreign tourism are far, far away from the center itself: Easter Island, 4000 kms, from the continent, and the Towers of Payne, in the very south and foreigners who come to Chile come most of the time specifically to visit them. The Atacama desert could be the third place too. So I guess a gringo boycott to Chile in this regard won’t make much of a difference.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @gatobart

    Gringo is a rude derogatory racial / ethnic term, like spic. Other than that, thank you for the explanation.

    Our family will gladly visit and spend money in a country that does not impose foolish mandates re this badly exaggerated virus. We will do so to reward the country and go where we are treated like reasonably free, rational adults — whether they have many famous or easily accessible tourist sites or not. We’ll enjoy interacting with the people; making an attempt at the rudiments of conversation in their language; learning a little something about their culture and mindset; trying a broad range of their cuisine (and wine, if applicable ;) and just being somewhere that’s sufficiently safe/stable but quite different than we are accustomed to.

    Of the people who hold out longer-term against submitting to these unnecessary “vaccines’, I wonder what percentage has sufficient disposable income to undertake foreign leisure travel. In other words, are vaccine refuseniks disproportionately from higher-income households, disproportionately from lower-income households, or neither?

    Replies: @gatobart, @gatobart

  • @RadicalCenter
    @Alfred

    Countries that do not impose this irrational requirement on visitors will see a sustained tourism boom.

    Replies: @Commentator Mike, @gatobart

    Not necessarily as more and more people are being vaccinated. In the UK over 50% have had the first dose so far. And presumably most of those who travel have taken it. You can keep track of the progress of vaccination at

    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

  • @BlackFlag
    @Malla

    Financial capitalism uses Marxism in order to push for further global integration. This is desirable because it leads to greater profits and more centralized control. In the end, true believer Marxists who believe in equality are "useful idiots" of financial capitalism.
    Is this accurate?

    Replies: @gatobart, @Malla

    Financial capitalism uses Marxism in order to push for further global integration,

    Wow, I finally found someone who said it. I have always been astounded at the incredible naivete and ignorance of those self-professed anti-Communists who keep babbling about Marxism being dead, about Marxism being wrong, about Marxism being a wacky and unrealistic theory which has no place in the modern world anyway. blah, blah, blah and I have felt at the time the impulse to tell them the truth, but then I sigh and just say to myself, why, why waste my time with people who don’t know their own backside from their elbow. But anyway, what I would say to them is: Fools! Marxism is more alive than ever! In fact Marxism is the most popular economic doctrine at this day and age, In fact Wall Street is the most important user of Marxism! We are all Marxists! And then I would explain to them that the main and crucial contribution of Karl Marx to mankind is the idea, or the realization, that the basis for the entire human society is the economy, the goods and services Man produces and provides to others to make possible the existence of such society. And even more important, the way he produces them. That is what Marx himself called the infrastructure, upon it everything else., politics, religion, culture in general, rests, everything. Because see, until then. the mid-1840s, philosophers of History (which he appropriately denounced as nothing more than propagandists of the established order (“The dominant ideology is the ideology of the dominant class, the elite”) attributed Historic facts to every possible cause they could imagine, specially wars and revolutions (“This war here happened because King Bob hated Queen Mafalda”, “This other war happened because some prince from A kidnapped some chick from kingdom B”, etc) But then came Marx and said, like the Clinton campaign of 1992, “No, no, no! It’s all about the economy stupids!” He proceeded them to savage and ridiculed them in his little book titled The Misery of Philosophy one which everyone should read just to enjoy the humor in it. At one point for example he ridicules the “rebels”, the self declared opposition of his time, the fake dissenters who we use to call nowadays controlled opposition (are you listening, Alex Jones…?) which he said think of themselves as raging wolves roaring and terrorizing with their roars the tenants of the establishment when in fact they are nothing more than docile sheep bleating hopelessly, huddled at the center of the enclosure where their masters keep them captives. In any case, to wrap up, some may love Marxism, some may hate it, but no matter their position on it, like gravity and cellphones, everyone has to use it.

    • Replies: @Levtraro
    @gatobart

    Mmmh I don't know. Marxism is also about class war which is not happening, the dictatorship of the proletariat which is not happening, ownership of the means of productions by the workers which is not happening, and the whithering away of the State in advanced communism which is not happening. The only thing marx-ish that is happening is central planning of the economy, what central banks and other state agencies do. So I think saying that Marxism is alive and well is more like a rethorical device.

    Replies: @gatobart

    , @Malla
    @gatobart

    Bullshit, your fat pig hero Marx did not work a day in his life as a worker or as an entrepreneur. The guy shamelessly lived asking money from his family, treated his mentally challenged servant as a slave and maybe impregnated her, looked down upon English working class people and was a relative of the Rothchilds.

    Secondly the USA has secretly supported nearly all Communist movements in the World behind the scenes. Including bringing Castro to power. Bretton Woods, IMF, World Bank had the hands of Communist Soviet supporting Jews like Harry Dexter White. He was a Commie Lithuanian Jew and a Soviet Spy in the US Govt and was pivotal in pitting the Japanese Empire in a war with the USA (to save the USSR’s East). He was also pivotal in the Bretton Woods Conference and later IMF and World Bank. Yes a pro-Soviet spy,

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/03/14/how-a-soviet-spy-outmaneuvered-john-maynard-keynes-and-ensured-u-s-global-financial-dominance/
    How a Soviet spy outmaneuvered John Maynard Keynes to ensure U.S. financial dominance
    https://www.vox.com/2014/8/24/6057119/harry-dexter-white-ben-steil
    This Soviet spy created the US-led global economic system

    All this “Revolutionary Communist heroes” Vs evul Western Imperialists is nothing but bullshit. Both sides have been working behind the scenes from the very beginning.

    Replies: @Malla

  • @Vojkan
    @Commentator Mike

    Well, there are good doctors out there to whom the Hippocratic Oath still means something and if you find one who treats you as a human being, you should stick to him. I've had one in France, a Jew and a very good man. Here in Serbia, the only doctor who'll see me is the one who'll sign my certificate of death, and even then I'm not sure one will deign to come on site.

    Replies: @Commentator Mike

    Good doctors (and dentists) are hard to find. I knew a few very good ones, mostly old experienced white men. I did think about staying close to them but then one does move and have to go through all the many incompetents yet again.

  • @Alfred
    @Commentator Mike

    If you plan to travel in the future you will probably need a vaccine passport. And the demand seems to be more from the people than from the governments.

    That is a marketing ploy. Don't believe it. They want people to think that we live in democracy and that the governments, despite themselves, are being forced into locking us up.

    It is the same with vaccines, they pretended that there were shortages of these things. It takes no time at all for a factory to churn out millions of doses. They had it all planned years ago.

    https://i.ibb.co/fNxP39H/f16.jpg

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    Countries that do not impose this irrational requirement on visitors will see a sustained tourism boom.

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    @RadicalCenter

    Not necessarily as more and more people are being vaccinated. In the UK over 50% have had the first dose so far. And presumably most of those who travel have taken it. You can keep track of the progress of vaccination at

    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

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    @RadicalCenter

    Chile is in no way like Mexico or Peru, or Brazil, or Cuba when it comes to tourism. I have no numbers but I trust most of the tourism in Chile is local, Chileans going from one place to another. Chile has no Teotihuacan or Macchu Pichu, no Corcovado or el Cuzco so there is no much for the foreigner to come see in the country itself. In fact the two most frequented places I know of which attract foreign tourism are far, far away from the center itself: Easter Island, 4000 kms, from the continent, and the Towers of Payne, in the very south and foreigners who come to Chile come most of the time specifically to visit them. The Atacama desert could be the third place too. So I guess a gringo boycott to Chile in this regard won't make much of a difference.

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