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With raids on civilians and hostage-taking back in the news, I looked up the Comanches’ Great Raid of 1840 that destroyed forever the Texas port city of Linnville, about halfway between Houston and Corpus Christi.

As with many ethnic conflicts, who were the bad guys and who were the good guys tend to flip-flop depending upon how far back in the chain of retaliatory counter-atrocities you go to start the narrative. Do you start your tale with X -> Y, or previously with Y -> X -> Y, or even further back with X -> Y -> X -> Y, etc.

The immediate predecessor event to the Comanches’ Great Raid was the Council House Fight in San Antonio. The Texians demanded a parley to arrange for getting back 16 white hostages from the Indians. But the Comanches only showed up with one, a young girl.

The Texians didn’t grasp that the fearsome Comanches were not a unified nation but more like a dozen or more motorcycle gangs on the make, with just a few represented at the council to see what the going price for a hostage was. The Texians then announced that, turn about being fair play, they were taking the Comanche chiefs at the parley hostage. This shocked the Comanches’ sense of morality. They tried to fight their way out of of captivity and two or three dozen were killed in the fight.

In response, the Comanches then tortured to death 13 white hostages. A chief named Buffalo Hump, who hadn’t attended, announced he would lead a great raid on the white man’s cities as vengeance. He assembled 500 or more braves in north central Texas and led them south toward the Gulf of Mexico hundreds of miles away. In the Indian wars, the Native Americans tended to be far more politically fractured, so it took an impressive leader to assemble that large of a force in one place.

They first attacked the inland town of Victoria about 125 miles southwest of Houston, killing a dozen locals. But the heavily armed Texian civilians fired out from inside their buildings and eventually the Comanche rode on to the busy port of Linnville, killing maybe another dozen civilians. The remainder, realizing Plains Indians had no familiarity with open water, piled into boats and escaped into the ocean, where they bobbed up and down watching their town be sacked.

After a day of drunken revels, the Comanche, wearing top hats and other loot onto pack mules, headed home with their 3,000 stolen horses, burning Linnville to the ground. Normally, the Texas Rangers could never catch the hard riding Comanches, but this time their pack mules slowed them down. The Rangers managed to kill a few dozen Comanche, but when some of the Indians jettisoned their stolen gold bullion to make a faster escape, the Rangers stopped pursuing in order to divvy up the gold amongst themselves.

Linnville was never rebuilt.

Although the death toll from the Great Raid was not immense, the Comanches wars went on for another 35 years. During the Civil War, many veteran Confederate and Union troops remained at their posts in the west guarding against the Comanches and other Plains Indians, missing out on the glory. But that suggests how much Americans, north and south, feared the potential of the mounted warriors of the plains.

 
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  1. Steve, have you ever read Blood Meridian?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Cutter

    No.

    Replies: @cool daddy jimbo, @Cutter, @J.Ross, @Clifford Brown, @Paul Rise

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Cutter

    On this topic, why would you recommend Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian rather than S. C. Gwynne's Empire of the Summer Moon? While I admire the former as a vivid piece of fiction, the latter is a well-researched history of the Comanche nation that includes a detailed account of the sacking of Linnville.

    Replies: @Corpse Tooth

  2. Always nice to see some real history.

    IF ONLY “our” future could be so tame.

    Manifest destiny is progress ?

    Isn’t it rich ? Almost prophet able…

    Don’t take the “world serious” said Abner.

    These god$ sure do have a sense of humor.

  3. Anonymous[180] • Disclaimer says:

    Slightly O.T.

    BLM – which, of course, was part founded by a Palestinian, has come out in full support of Hamas.

    Expect to see BLM quietly, but surely, wither away and slowly disappear from all public exposure, discourse and notice in the near future. Quite simply, the gatekeepers of the media will drop them like a hot potato and completely ignore them as if they do not exist.
    Remember, the only power BLM ever had was saturation coverage from a media agreeable with its agenda. Now its agenda is disagreeable, its oxygen will be swiftly cut off.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Anonymous

    Burn Loot Murder is not a unified organization. God's chosen people will drop the more radical ones, and support the more kosher ones

    , @Danindc
    @Anonymous

    Agreed. But the association w BLM should tar every Corp that supported it.

    , @Prester John
    @Anonymous

    BLM was never more than a scam anyway but, nevertheless, spot-on just the same. To Big Media, BLM has served its purpose so...onward.

    , @res
    @Anonymous

    A good test case. I suspect your are correct. Another possible outcome is BLM recants.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    , @Muggles
    @Anonymous

    Along the lines of this story, a report says three "Squad" members (female congressmen, Woke Dems) have endorsed the Hamas attacks.

    Or more or less so, by condemning Israel. Two of those three are Somali Muslim imports, one of whom fake married her brother to get him in here.

    So the Comrades are being split by this recent event. Despite many of them being Jewish. Of course the Jews won't endorse Hamas outright, though some publicly back "Palestinians" in this.

    This recent Hamas raid is like a prison break writ large. Gaza is largely an Israeli prison for uncooperative Palestinians. Funded by Iran, Syria (a bit) and some Gulf Arab states and funders.

    To the degree the Comrades appear divided or perplexed here, this will weaken their ideological hold.

    Due to heavy Jewish influence/ownership/control over US news media, being pro Hamas won't fly. Also it seems to be a major political blunder and temporary Pyrrhic "victory" for them.

    Now Israel will starve them out and pound them with artillery and missiles. Perhaps raids to capture suspected leaders.

    Like most prison breaks, this will end badly for them.

    Israel pays a heavy price for running this prison. This is about land, not religion. Both Jews and Arabs are famous for being insane bargainers and crazy stubborn.

    Outsiders fund both sides and pay to watch. Innocents pay the price.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Colin Wright
    @Anonymous


    '...Expect to see BLM quietly, but surely, wither away and slowly disappear from all public exposure, discourse and notice in the near future. Quite simply, the gatekeepers of the media will drop them like a hot potato and completely ignore them as if they do not exist.
    Remember, the only power BLM ever had was saturation coverage from a media agreeable with its agenda. Now its agenda is disagreeable, its oxygen will be swiftly cut off.'
     
    Inshallah. Every cloud has a silver lining.

    But actually...

    The Jewish-controlled media has been going absolutely beserk about Hamas' attack -- and in that context, it's striking how little coverage the position of Black Lives Matter has received.

    Maybe they want to keep their black tool. I prefer to avoid explanations that imply a conscious decision -- but this is noticeable.
  4. @Cutter
    Steve, have you ever read Blood Meridian?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Harry Baldwin

    No.

    • Replies: @cool daddy jimbo
    @Steve Sailer

    "Empire of the Summer Moon" is also really good.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Cutter
    @Steve Sailer

    You need to. It's worth reading. Supposedly it's being adapted by the Australian guy who directed "The Proposition", which is the closest to the brutal majesty of the book I've ever seen a film come.

    , @J.Ross
    @Steve Sailer

    I suggest you do not from what I can infer of your tastes, but it is very possible that it might impress you; it's the go-to best American novel for people who don't dig Pynchon, Heller, Gaddis, Melville, or that dude who wrote Stoner. Reliable thread on 4chan's /tv/ board: how do we adapt Blood Meridian to film? My answer: You don't. You can't. Not because of the violence, but because the best part (and really the whole selling point of the thing) is its prose, and you obliterate prose when you film it. The book itself: tldr -- let us finally exterminate and erase the Myth of the American Cowboy once and for all by showing in graphic detail how completely awful some of them could be. To an extent, the admiration of this novel is worryingly similar to the fandoms of Scarface, Apocalypse Now, Clockwork Orange, etc, that is it's not shlock but it is shock, and, had it less art, many of the same people would sing many of the same praises.

    , @Clifford Brown
    @Steve Sailer

    I immediately thought of Blood Meridian and Empire of the Summer Moon if you are interested in Comanche raids. The women taken way by motorcycling raiders reminded me of The Searchers.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii_7QnXPQxA

    , @Paul Rise
    @Steve Sailer

    Mr. Sailer there are pros and cons to this great American novel, but a "story in a story" that is told to the protagonist about how the infamous Judge assists the band of desperados when they find themselves without gunpowder in rough country is one of the great sequences in 20th century American literature. I read it several times a year. McCarthy at his best has no rival.

    Real fans also know the sequence when the Kid finds the mummy is the heart of the book. I still ponder the meaning of it, which is made no clearer even when you realize who or what the mummy is.

  5. Why are conservative Americans like this?

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Dream

    "Why are conservative Americans like this?"

    I don't consider Lindsey Graham a conservative.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @John Henry, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @Wilkey, @Anonymous, @Legba

    , @Anon
    @Dream

    Religion makes you do stupid things.

    , @deep anonymous
    @Dream

    In my lifetime (I'm mid 60s) the popular meanings of "liberal" and "conservative" have, shall we say, evolved. I think it safe to say that today's conservatives are worse than useless because they conserve the power base of the Left. I'm reminded of (I think) Dabney's comment that conservatives move within the shadow cast by the progressive Left. It's always the "conservative case for [fill in the latest abomination]."

    I remember in college reading Hayek's essay, "Why I Am Not A Conservative" and thinking my eyes had been opened, but unfortunately, today I also would have to explain why I am not a libertarian. If White people are going to survive, we need to develop a racial consciousness. Otherwise we will be killed off, it's that simple. That does not mean we have to hate other groups, just that we love our own extended family.

    Replies: @Catdog

    , @JosephD
    @Dream


    Why are conservative Americans like this?
     
    I do not like the values most Jewish politicians propose for the US. I do not like the hypocrisy of espousing policies for the US they would never support for Israel. Actually, "I do not like" is far too mild of language.

    That said, the lines between civilization and barbarism in the conflict with Israel are pretty clear. It may be cliche to say that if the Muslims in the area disarmed and called for peace, a year later there would be fixed lines, a Palestinian state, and peace. If the Israelis disarmed and called for peace, a year later all the Jews still in the area would be dead. That it is cliche makes it no less true. The Israelis are not angels; however, their opponents are barbarians.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    , @Director95
    @Dream

    Lindsey is no conservative. He is 100% all in on war. His mantra - Your tax money goes to the war machine. How in the fvck is that conservative. He conserves nothing.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @anonymouseperson
    @Dream

    Jewish power money and control of the media and entertainment world of Hollywood. Also I don't believe they truly are conservatives anyways. They are more like the "wet" Tories of the United Kingdom.

    , @James Braxton
    @Dream

    More like why do conservative Americans elect homosexual warmongers to represent them?

    , @Dr. X
    @Dream


    "We're in a religious war"
     
    Who's "we," Kemosabe?
  6. These people care more about Israel than they care about their own people.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Dream

    White Americans can be as genocidal as they want as long as the targets are Palestinians or fellow white Americans (at least the "racist" ones)

    Replies: @HammerJack

    , @Barnard
    @Dream

    It may not seem like it, but this stuff does appear to be on the wane. I am seeing a lot less of it than I used to from dispensationalist Christians. The Jews who called abortion part of their religion made a dent in the unthinking, knee jerk support for Israel.

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Dream

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12617621/Israeli-official-calls-Doomsday-missile-shakes-Middle-East-used-response-Hamas-attacks-despite-nation-never-openly-admitting-having-nuclear-weapons.html

    Israeli official calls for 'Doomsday' missile that 'shakes the Middle East' to be used in response to Hamas attacks - despite the nation never openly admitting to having nuclear weapons

    That's why hysterical pre-menopausal women should be better kept away in the time of crisis....

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Corpse Tooth
    @Dream

    Christian Zionists are a captive people.

  7. But that suggests how much Americans, north and south, feared the potential of the mounted warriors of the plains.

    Much of human history was a story of conflict between pastoralists and agriculturalists, with the former usually beating the latter and assuming the elite stratum among the latter, only for the pattern to repeat later with yet other pastoralists. This went on for centuries until the inventions (e.g. gunpowder) and the organizations (levee en masse) of the agriculturalists finally overtook the fighting prowess and the mobility of the pastoralists and decisively settled the score once and for all.

    • Agree: Captain Tripps
    • Replies: @Catdog
    @Twinkie

    You have survivorship bias in saying that pastoralists "usually" beat agriculturalists. Agriculturalists could win 99 out of 100 battles, and only the ones where they lost and were conquered would stick in the minds of anyone literate.

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Twinkie

    Injuns only got horses since European arrival; however, their closest cousins across the Bering Strait, hunter-gatherer Chukchis, were the only Eurasian people that Russians couldn't subdue at peak power.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Choris%2C_Tschuktschen.jpg


    On 12 March 1747, a party of 500 Chukchi warriors raided the Russian stockade of Anadyrsk.[3] Pavlutsky's regiment of 131 men, consisting of 96 Cossacks and 35 Koryak allies, set off in pursuit, catching up with the Chuchki near the settlement of Markovo.[3] Pavlutsky ordered an attack despite lacking reinforcements, and his outnumbered regiment was defeated in a battle reminiscent of the Battle of the Little Bighorn.[3] Pavlutsky, wearing iron chain mail armor, was able to escape the field unhurt but was surrounded on a small nearby hill (now called Major's Hill) and killed.[2] His head was reportedly cut off and kept by the Chukchi for years afterward.[2]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Pavlutsky

    Agriculturalist armies require heavy taxes to maintain, and often bureacratization, at the cost of élan, otherwise Prigozhins would occur.

    Responding to you here about light calvary:
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/has-mit-finally-figured-out-why-roman-concrete-was-so-great/#comment-5758264

    1. In set-piece mêlée, European heavy cavalry and infantry can make mincemeat of Mongol light cavalry. But light cavalry can run-and-shoot and escape from set-piece battles, and re-seize the strategic initiative

    2. East Asian agriculturalist armies don't utilize heavy armor, but in set-piece battles can also defeat Mongol-Manchu light cavalry using combination of fortification, pikemen and archers, as you wrote. In addition, East Asians began using crossbows before anyone else.

    3. But, Chinese can only thoroughly defeat Mongols with its own light cavalry, which is expensive and can only be led by the most vigorous emperors, Wudi, Taizong, Hongwu, Yongle.

    Ming Chinese razed the ancient Mongol palace, but only by horse archer light calvary led by Hongwu,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karakorum

    The future I think is still light calvary, in the form of AI-driven tanks or AI-driven Fallschirmjäger.

  8. In response, the Comanches then tortured to death 13 white hostages. A chief named Buffalo Hump, who hadn’t attended, announced he would lead a great raid on the white man’s cities as vengeance.

    Appears they spooled up enough political cohesion to kill and raid. Seems they could have spooled up enough cohesion to parley en bloc.

    ________________________________________________________________

    Recently read a small amount about the early days of the mountain men of the west; Jim Bridger et al.; the fur trapping era. Seemed to have gotten along quite well with the Natives. The Indian Wars in those areas came later, when the number of economic migrants became greater. Should be lesson there today.

  9. @Dream
    Why are conservative Americans like this?

    https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1711928827318866331?t=-9syu4rm4zpRhoWMOFHxkw&s=19

    Replies: @Kylie, @Anon, @deep anonymous, @JosephD, @Director95, @anonymouseperson, @James Braxton, @Dr. X

    “Why are conservative Americans like this?”

    I don’t consider Lindsey Graham a conservative.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Kylie

    I don't consider him an American.

    , @John Henry
    @Kylie

    Agree. He is a blood thirsty neo-con. Ready to send other people to fight his endless wars.

    , @Bard of Bumperstickers
    @Kylie

    Agreed about Graham.

    For many conservative Christians, though, Israel can do no wrong.


    NewsGuard Adviser Michael Hayden Calls for Sen. Tommy Tuberville to Be ‘Removed’ from the Human Race
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/10/former-cia-nsa-director-gen-michael-hayden-calls-for-sen-tuberville-to-be-removed-from-human-race/

    Be pro-Israel, or be unpersoned.

    "Entangling alliances with none."
    https://mises.org/wire/get-us-out-middle-east

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    , @Wilkey
    @Kylie

    Lindsey is the dork who’s trying to make friends with the popular kid. The dork thinks he’s making progress, while the popular kid will just ignore him or mock him when he’s no longer useful.

    I have nothing against Israel or its survival. I just don’t understand why so many non-Jewish Americans are so damn obsessed with it, even as they embrace the overrunning of every other Western country by Third World invaders.

    Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians will probably end up leaving Gaza, and guess where they’ll want to go? Thousands of them will be coming to a neighborhood near you.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @Jack Armstrong

    , @Anonymous
    @Kylie


    I don’t consider Lindsey Graham a conservative.
     
    And what about the people who keep electing him?

    Graham's ravings are not some bizarre aberration.
    , @Legba
    @Kylie

    He wears a garter belt & silk stockings under the suit, just like the rest of them.

  10. @Anonymous
    Slightly O.T.

    BLM - which, of course, was part founded by a Palestinian, has come out in full support of Hamas.

    Expect to see BLM quietly, but surely, wither away and slowly disappear from all public exposure, discourse and notice in the near future. Quite simply, the gatekeepers of the media will drop them like a hot potato and completely ignore them as if they do not exist.
    Remember, the only power BLM ever had was saturation coverage from a media agreeable with its agenda. Now its agenda is disagreeable, its oxygen will be swiftly cut off.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Danindc, @Prester John, @res, @Muggles, @Colin Wright

    Burn Loot Murder is not a unified organization. God’s chosen people will drop the more radical ones, and support the more kosher ones

  11. @Dream
    These people care more about Israel than they care about their own people.

    https://twitter.com/hemantmehta/status/1711134058971840809?t=-OPJOqD_HLydsGkySK6ylA&s=19

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Barnard, @Bardon Kaldian, @Corpse Tooth

    White Americans can be as genocidal as they want as long as the targets are Palestinians or fellow white Americans (at least the “racist” ones)

    • Agree: Gordo, Ben tillman
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @AndrewR

    And as PF & PG keep reminding us, We're All Palestinians now.

    https://www.unz.com/jfreud/two-kinds-of-justice-in-the-world-jewish-justice-and-palestinian-justice-how-jewish-power-divided-the-world-into-jews-meta-jews-versus-palestinians-meta-palestinians-jews-regard-whites/

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/we-are-all-palestinians-2/

  12. @Kylie
    @Dream

    "Why are conservative Americans like this?"

    I don't consider Lindsey Graham a conservative.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @John Henry, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @Wilkey, @Anonymous, @Legba

    I don’t consider him an American.

  13. One that has struck me is just how neocon the Biden admin is. I heard his speech and it really sounds to me like Tony Blinken is actually the president of the United States now. The US isn’t urging restraint, it is giving the green light to Israel to go savage in Gaza. How far will Netanyahu go? Will he try and expel the Gazans into Egypt? (And onward into Europe) When they cross into Gaza it will trigger a wider war with Hezbollah and depending on how that goes it could suck in Syria and Iran. It’s worth noting that the idea of taking and ethnically cleansing Gaza and the West Bank is pretty mainstream at this stage in Israeli politics and is the long-term goal of basically everyone in Netanyahu’s coalition.

    You’d think given how badly Ukraine has turned out they’d be trying to talk sense into the Israelis to try and contain this but when you’ve got Blinken in your state department and a man who has lost his mental faculties as president and probably relies on the people around him to tell him what to think, you get a runaway disaster.

    One thing to note which is very important and I don’t see talked about is, since the US has lost his hegemon status in the idiotic overreach in Ukraine out of the neocon tantrum about the Russian intervention in Syria, every day the US military golem becomes a depreciating asset for Israel. Will this fact, that every day it will become harder for the US military to act for Israel (Along with this admin being ridiculously slavish to Israel) motivate Netanyahu to use this opportunity to push for this to go into a regional war? But can the US win it for Israel?

    Blinken is fascinating because nobody brings up him being a creature of deep state nepotism, his father and uncle both being US ambassadors. His intense neocon views also seem to obscured by his low-key nature and ambiguous name.

    The other interesting thing about Blinken is he is the archetypal invade-the-world, invite-the-world guy having previously served as UN ambassador with Obama during the million man march during the height of the Israel/State Department funded Syrian civil war. During that time he made a video with Grover the muppet propagandising to children about the necessity of Europe to take all these men, forever.

    Here he is at AIPAC in late 2015.

    Invade the world. (On behalf of the Sabras)

    Here he is with Grover in 2016 talking about the million man march.

    Invite the world. (On behalf of the diaspora)

    A perfect twofer.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Altai3

    OTOH he plays a reasonable guitar for a politician. Sorry!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbOg5XX9Ud0

    , @Anonymous
    @Altai3

    Grover is the one of the pair to actually have a brain in his head.

    Replies: @Gordo

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Altai3


    It’s worth noting that the idea of taking and ethnically cleansing Gaza and the West Bank is pretty mainstream at this stage in Israeli politics and is the long-term goal of basically everyone in Netanyahu’s coalition.
     
    They need a final solution to their Palestinian problem so that they can finally have an ethnically pure state with the living space necessary to thrive.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Wilkey
    @Altai3

    And how many Syrian refugees did Israel admit? It’s anti-Semitic to even ask.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @HammerJack
    @Altai3


    How far will Netanyahu go? Will he try and expel the Gazans into Egypt?
     
    Of course not. He will slaughter innocents by the tens of thousands. Expulsion would not slake the Israeli thirst for blood.
    , @TWS
    @Altai3

    I think neocons have run foreign policy since Bush the Elder.

  14. @Altai3
    One that has struck me is just how neocon the Biden admin is. I heard his speech and it really sounds to me like Tony Blinken is actually the president of the United States now. The US isn't urging restraint, it is giving the green light to Israel to go savage in Gaza. How far will Netanyahu go? Will he try and expel the Gazans into Egypt? (And onward into Europe) When they cross into Gaza it will trigger a wider war with Hezbollah and depending on how that goes it could suck in Syria and Iran. It's worth noting that the idea of taking and ethnically cleansing Gaza and the West Bank is pretty mainstream at this stage in Israeli politics and is the long-term goal of basically everyone in Netanyahu's coalition.

    You'd think given how badly Ukraine has turned out they'd be trying to talk sense into the Israelis to try and contain this but when you've got Blinken in your state department and a man who has lost his mental faculties as president and probably relies on the people around him to tell him what to think, you get a runaway disaster.

    One thing to note which is very important and I don't see talked about is, since the US has lost his hegemon status in the idiotic overreach in Ukraine out of the neocon tantrum about the Russian intervention in Syria, every day the US military golem becomes a depreciating asset for Israel. Will this fact, that every day it will become harder for the US military to act for Israel (Along with this admin being ridiculously slavish to Israel) motivate Netanyahu to use this opportunity to push for this to go into a regional war? But can the US win it for Israel?

    Blinken is fascinating because nobody brings up him being a creature of deep state nepotism, his father and uncle both being US ambassadors. His intense neocon views also seem to obscured by his low-key nature and ambiguous name.

    The other interesting thing about Blinken is he is the archetypal invade-the-world, invite-the-world guy having previously served as UN ambassador with Obama during the million man march during the height of the Israel/State Department funded Syrian civil war. During that time he made a video with Grover the muppet propagandising to children about the necessity of Europe to take all these men, forever.

    Here he is at AIPAC in late 2015.

    Invade the world. (On behalf of the Sabras)

    https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1331159077397929985

    Here he is with Grover in 2016 talking about the million man march.

    Invite the world. (On behalf of the diaspora)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUxKsG5YrPE

    A perfect twofer.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Anonymous, @Hypnotoad666, @Wilkey, @HammerJack, @TWS

    OTOH he plays a reasonable guitar for a politician. Sorry!

  15. That’s some fascinating history. I guess this sort of thing wouldn’t get taught to the children, probably 50 years running now, as we can’t have anyone going against the narrative of “White Man bad / Red man good”. Things were indeed a lot more nuanced, a lot more complicated and not a matter of simply US v Indians.

    I’ve linked to them before, but here are the 3 Parts of the Peak Stupidity review of the great Sam Gwynne book Empire of the Summer Moon: Part 1 – – Part 2 – –Part 3.

    The HBD or more anti-HBD story behind the Comanches, as Mr. Gwynne discusses at the beginning of his book, is that before they had horses (coming from the Spanish via Mexico), “The People”* were a pathetic bunch, “indigenous” at that point, to the Wind River Range in Wyoming. Within a century or less they became the best horseman anyone had ever seen.

    That gets to this story of their looting of Linnville. Killing and torturing other peoples and stealing horses was not just war, but it was LIFE itself to the Comanche men. The women were beasts of burden with benefits basically.

    .

    * What “Comanche” meant in Comanche. No peace and perfect harmony among nations with this crowd…

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Thanks: Captain Tripps
    • Replies: @John Henry
    @Achmed E. Newman

    "The People" is typically what every tribes' language meant in the name they used for their self-description. "We are the People." You are the other. But I suspect you know this.

    , @OsMagyar
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I, for one, enjoyed Gwynne’s comparison of the Comanche with the ancient Magyar.

    , @Buroaker
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The greatest most well known Comanche warrior was half white…
    ….. his mother may have been a typical sausage eater from the old country…

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Oops, I do agree with myself on most occasions but meant to hit the button for the Captain.

    The modern way: Achmed LIKED "History is awesome."

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Achmed E. Newman


    The People”*

    * What “Comanche” meant in Comanche.
     

    It seems like every tribe's name for itself translates as "us" or "the people." Whereas their name for the next tribe over is usually "those bastards," or "the enemy." Of course we would often first learn about a tribe from its neighbors, so a lot of tribes are now named after their neighbor's perjorative.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Anonymous

    , @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “The People”* were a pathetic bunch, “indigenous” at that point, to the Wind River Range in Wyoming. Within a century or less they became the best horseman anyone had ever seen.

    The Sioux, another famous plains tribe, originally came from the eastern woodlands. One branch of that tribe, the Santee, lived in the woods of Minnesota as late as the 1860's, when they were deported to a reservation in Nebraska for something or other. They were going to hang a shitload of them, but the Great Emancipator commuted most of their sentences.

    Prior to the introduction of the firearm and, especially, the horse, hardly any Indians lived in the high plains. They were too dry for farming and, while there were vast herds of bison, that resource could not be well exploited by unmounted braves with only arrows and lances.

    The horse and the gun changed all that: there was a "gold rush" of large numbers of mounted, armed Indians from the outskirts of the plains to pluck the low-hanging fruit of the then easily killed bison.

    The heyday of plains Indian culture lasted well less than a century.

    Replies: @duncsbaby

  16. Now, there’s a Western crying, nay, shrieking out to be made.

  17. @Kylie
    @Dream

    "Why are conservative Americans like this?"

    I don't consider Lindsey Graham a conservative.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @John Henry, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @Wilkey, @Anonymous, @Legba

    Agree. He is a blood thirsty neo-con. Ready to send other people to fight his endless wars.

  18. @Achmed E. Newman
    That's some fascinating history. I guess this sort of thing wouldn't get taught to the children, probably 50 years running now, as we can't have anyone going against the narrative of "White Man bad / Red man good". Things were indeed a lot more nuanced, a lot more complicated and not a matter of simply US v Indians.

    I've linked to them before, but here are the 3 Parts of the Peak Stupidity review of the great Sam Gwynne book Empire of the Summer Moon: Part 1 - - Part 2 - -Part 3.

    The HBD or more anti-HBD story behind the Comanches, as Mr. Gwynne discusses at the beginning of his book, is that before they had horses (coming from the Spanish via Mexico), "The People"* were a pathetic bunch, "indigenous" at that point, to the Wind River Range in Wyoming. Within a century or less they became the best horseman anyone had ever seen.

    That gets to this story of their looting of Linnville. Killing and torturing other peoples and stealing horses was not just war, but it was LIFE itself to the Comanche men. The women were beasts of burden with benefits basically.

    .

    * What "Comanche" meant in Comanche. No peace and perfect harmony among nations with this crowd...

    Replies: @John Henry, @OsMagyar, @Buroaker, @Achmed E. Newman, @Hypnotoad666, @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.

    “The People” is typically what every tribes’ language meant in the name they used for their self-description. “We are the People.” You are the other. But I suspect you know this.

  19. @Steve Sailer
    @Cutter

    No.

    Replies: @cool daddy jimbo, @Cutter, @J.Ross, @Clifford Brown, @Paul Rise

    “Empire of the Summer Moon” is also really good.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @cool daddy jimbo

    Two or three times at the book store in the last few years I've picked up "Empire of the Summer Moon" only to have dropped it off just before getting to the cash register.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Achmed E. Newman, @Paul Rise

  20. @Altai3
    One that has struck me is just how neocon the Biden admin is. I heard his speech and it really sounds to me like Tony Blinken is actually the president of the United States now. The US isn't urging restraint, it is giving the green light to Israel to go savage in Gaza. How far will Netanyahu go? Will he try and expel the Gazans into Egypt? (And onward into Europe) When they cross into Gaza it will trigger a wider war with Hezbollah and depending on how that goes it could suck in Syria and Iran. It's worth noting that the idea of taking and ethnically cleansing Gaza and the West Bank is pretty mainstream at this stage in Israeli politics and is the long-term goal of basically everyone in Netanyahu's coalition.

    You'd think given how badly Ukraine has turned out they'd be trying to talk sense into the Israelis to try and contain this but when you've got Blinken in your state department and a man who has lost his mental faculties as president and probably relies on the people around him to tell him what to think, you get a runaway disaster.

    One thing to note which is very important and I don't see talked about is, since the US has lost his hegemon status in the idiotic overreach in Ukraine out of the neocon tantrum about the Russian intervention in Syria, every day the US military golem becomes a depreciating asset for Israel. Will this fact, that every day it will become harder for the US military to act for Israel (Along with this admin being ridiculously slavish to Israel) motivate Netanyahu to use this opportunity to push for this to go into a regional war? But can the US win it for Israel?

    Blinken is fascinating because nobody brings up him being a creature of deep state nepotism, his father and uncle both being US ambassadors. His intense neocon views also seem to obscured by his low-key nature and ambiguous name.

    The other interesting thing about Blinken is he is the archetypal invade-the-world, invite-the-world guy having previously served as UN ambassador with Obama during the million man march during the height of the Israel/State Department funded Syrian civil war. During that time he made a video with Grover the muppet propagandising to children about the necessity of Europe to take all these men, forever.

    Here he is at AIPAC in late 2015.

    Invade the world. (On behalf of the Sabras)

    https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1331159077397929985

    Here he is with Grover in 2016 talking about the million man march.

    Invite the world. (On behalf of the diaspora)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUxKsG5YrPE

    A perfect twofer.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Anonymous, @Hypnotoad666, @Wilkey, @HammerJack, @TWS

    Grover is the one of the pair to actually have a brain in his head.

    • Replies: @Gordo
    @Anonymous

    Perhaps Epstein had a tape of Grover carrying out unspeakable acts?

    PS I’m only brave enough to name Grover as I’m pretty sure he can’t sue.

  21. I fall asleep nightly listening to Comanche horror stories, they were brutes for sure, but definitely not whiners.

  22. I read “The First Frontier” last year after another commenter recommended it, which discusses the initial settlement of the East Coast and associated conflict with native tribes. Brutality on both sides and of course totally alien cultures and values that made it all worse. I honestly don’t know how people had the guts to set up homesteads on the frontier and miles away from any help.

    At any rate, one thing to note about the conflicts between Americans settlers/Army and the natives is obviously there is and was respect for their martial prowess. After all, a number of weapons systems have been named after Indian tribes or implements.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Arclight

    I got a list yea long of books to read, but I'll put The First Frontier and Blood Meridian on it. Thanks, both of you.

    The biggest reason there was NEVER going to be some multicultural merged society of the White Man and Red Man was the understanding and lack thereof, of property rights, respectively.

    As for the Indian names, yes, not just the military helicopters, but also Piper Aircraft went all out on Indian names throughout the General Aviation manufacturer's history. Oh no, not today, if there were to be a new model... G/A is in a big funk, 20 years running now with no light at the end of the tunnel, same as the Indians ...

    Cherokee
    Dakota
    Comanche
    Saratoga
    Seminole
    Seneca
    Aztec
    Navajo

    I'm sure I left a few out.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @J.Ross, @Arclight

  23. @Achmed E. Newman
    That's some fascinating history. I guess this sort of thing wouldn't get taught to the children, probably 50 years running now, as we can't have anyone going against the narrative of "White Man bad / Red man good". Things were indeed a lot more nuanced, a lot more complicated and not a matter of simply US v Indians.

    I've linked to them before, but here are the 3 Parts of the Peak Stupidity review of the great Sam Gwynne book Empire of the Summer Moon: Part 1 - - Part 2 - -Part 3.

    The HBD or more anti-HBD story behind the Comanches, as Mr. Gwynne discusses at the beginning of his book, is that before they had horses (coming from the Spanish via Mexico), "The People"* were a pathetic bunch, "indigenous" at that point, to the Wind River Range in Wyoming. Within a century or less they became the best horseman anyone had ever seen.

    That gets to this story of their looting of Linnville. Killing and torturing other peoples and stealing horses was not just war, but it was LIFE itself to the Comanche men. The women were beasts of burden with benefits basically.

    .

    * What "Comanche" meant in Comanche. No peace and perfect harmony among nations with this crowd...

    Replies: @John Henry, @OsMagyar, @Buroaker, @Achmed E. Newman, @Hypnotoad666, @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.

    I, for one, enjoyed Gwynne’s comparison of the Comanche with the ancient Magyar.

  24. Great minds, Mr iSteve. In the comments thread on another American blog I compared the Hamas raid to the Comanches. I then pointed out that the Comanches lost.

    What Hamas’s barbaric young men are up to is obvious, but what are their bosses up to? Dunno. It’s a mystery.

    Still, the question will presumably be ignored amongst all the hysteria. Is a feminised society more prone to hysteria? Could be.

  25. @Kylie
    @Dream

    "Why are conservative Americans like this?"

    I don't consider Lindsey Graham a conservative.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @John Henry, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @Wilkey, @Anonymous, @Legba

    Agreed about Graham.

    For many conservative Christians, though, Israel can do no wrong.

    NewsGuard Adviser Michael Hayden Calls for Sen. Tommy Tuberville to Be ‘Removed’ from the Human Race
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/10/former-cia-nsa-director-gen-michael-hayden-calls-for-sen-tuberville-to-be-removed-from-human-race/

    Be pro-Israel, or be unpersoned.

    “Entangling alliances with none.”
    https://mises.org/wire/get-us-out-middle-east

    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @Bard of Bumperstickers

    Michael Hayden has no standing, as he is not human himself.

  26. Back in 1975 I spent a week at Big Bend National Park in Texas along the Rio Grande. There was a caldera type geologic structure that was called “the last stronghold of the Comanches”. It was a verdant bowl set in the middle of an arid moonscape. Ideal as a refuge and place to make a last ditch stand.

    At the museum in the park there were exhibitions depicting the history of the region and of the wars between the settlers and Indios. Of course, the Texas Rangers figured prominently in this. There were enlarged photos of Texas Rangers out in the countryside, standing before buckboard wagons, cradling what looked like buffalo guns in their arms. They were handle-barred mustached, sun bronzed, leather skinned, lean and hard; the toughest looking hombres I’ve ever laid eyes on. They made Hells Angels look like plump fops, Nancy boys.

    There was no give and take in their attitudes. It was all, “I’m gonna hound you to the Gates of Hell and back and you’re gonna die”.

    When I went back in 2000 the photos of the tough-sinewed law men had all disappeared, replaced by what Steve would call the soft-focused fairy tale that is so beloved of the “gradual assimilation” school of social relations.

  27. @Dream
    Why are conservative Americans like this?

    https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1711928827318866331?t=-9syu4rm4zpRhoWMOFHxkw&s=19

    Replies: @Kylie, @Anon, @deep anonymous, @JosephD, @Director95, @anonymouseperson, @James Braxton, @Dr. X

    Religion makes you do stupid things.

  28. What the hell, since I have no inkling of the purpose of the Hamas raid why not just guess?

    (i) It’s part of a power struggle between factions in Hamas. (ii) Or, Hamas is scared of losing power in Gaza and therefore planned to unite the population behind them by provoking a genocidal Israeli attack. (iii) It’s all about drawing in other parties. (iv) Your guess may be as good as mine.

  29. “During the Civil War, many veteran Confederate and Union troops remained at their posts in the west guarding against the Comanches and other Plains Indians, missing out on the glory. But that suggests how much Americans, north and south, feared the potential of the mounted warriors of the plains.”

    Eg the two protagonists of *Lonesome Dove.*

  30. (v) Hamas is on the Israeli payroll. Mr Netenyahu ordered the raid to strengthen his position in the political strife within Israel.

    It’s a complicated place, the Middle East. Can even this wild conjecture be ruled out?

  31. @Dream
    Why are conservative Americans like this?

    https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1711928827318866331?t=-9syu4rm4zpRhoWMOFHxkw&s=19

    Replies: @Kylie, @Anon, @deep anonymous, @JosephD, @Director95, @anonymouseperson, @James Braxton, @Dr. X

    In my lifetime (I’m mid 60s) the popular meanings of “liberal” and “conservative” have, shall we say, evolved. I think it safe to say that today’s conservatives are worse than useless because they conserve the power base of the Left. I’m reminded of (I think) Dabney’s comment that conservatives move within the shadow cast by the progressive Left. It’s always the “conservative case for [fill in the latest abomination].”

    I remember in college reading Hayek’s essay, “Why I Am Not A Conservative” and thinking my eyes had been opened, but unfortunately, today I also would have to explain why I am not a libertarian. If White people are going to survive, we need to develop a racial consciousness. Otherwise we will be killed off, it’s that simple. That does not mean we have to hate other groups, just that we love our own extended family.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Catdog
    @deep anonymous

    Listen to Rockwell's "Why I am not a conservative".

    Replies: @deep anonymous

  32. @Dream
    Why are conservative Americans like this?

    https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1711928827318866331?t=-9syu4rm4zpRhoWMOFHxkw&s=19

    Replies: @Kylie, @Anon, @deep anonymous, @JosephD, @Director95, @anonymouseperson, @James Braxton, @Dr. X

    Why are conservative Americans like this?

    I do not like the values most Jewish politicians propose for the US. I do not like the hypocrisy of espousing policies for the US they would never support for Israel. Actually, “I do not like” is far too mild of language.

    That said, the lines between civilization and barbarism in the conflict with Israel are pretty clear. It may be cliche to say that if the Muslims in the area disarmed and called for peace, a year later there would be fixed lines, a Palestinian state, and peace. If the Israelis disarmed and called for peace, a year later all the Jews still in the area would be dead. That it is cliche makes it no less true. The Israelis are not angels; however, their opponents are barbarians.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @JosephD


    It may be cliche to say that if the Muslims in the area disarmed and called for peace, a year later there would be fixed lines, a Palestinian state, and peace.
     
    Yeah, by and large the Palestinians have tried that time after time, and the result has always been dispossession, hideous oppression, torture, and progressive erasure. Take a look at an honest map of the West Bank some time. This is what gives rise to more desperate measures now and then.
  33. @Steve Sailer
    @Cutter

    No.

    Replies: @cool daddy jimbo, @Cutter, @J.Ross, @Clifford Brown, @Paul Rise

    You need to. It’s worth reading. Supposedly it’s being adapted by the Australian guy who directed “The Proposition”, which is the closest to the brutal majesty of the book I’ve ever seen a film come.

  34. @Anonymous
    Slightly O.T.

    BLM - which, of course, was part founded by a Palestinian, has come out in full support of Hamas.

    Expect to see BLM quietly, but surely, wither away and slowly disappear from all public exposure, discourse and notice in the near future. Quite simply, the gatekeepers of the media will drop them like a hot potato and completely ignore them as if they do not exist.
    Remember, the only power BLM ever had was saturation coverage from a media agreeable with its agenda. Now its agenda is disagreeable, its oxygen will be swiftly cut off.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Danindc, @Prester John, @res, @Muggles, @Colin Wright

    Agreed. But the association w BLM should tar every Corp that supported it.

  35. @Achmed E. Newman
    That's some fascinating history. I guess this sort of thing wouldn't get taught to the children, probably 50 years running now, as we can't have anyone going against the narrative of "White Man bad / Red man good". Things were indeed a lot more nuanced, a lot more complicated and not a matter of simply US v Indians.

    I've linked to them before, but here are the 3 Parts of the Peak Stupidity review of the great Sam Gwynne book Empire of the Summer Moon: Part 1 - - Part 2 - -Part 3.

    The HBD or more anti-HBD story behind the Comanches, as Mr. Gwynne discusses at the beginning of his book, is that before they had horses (coming from the Spanish via Mexico), "The People"* were a pathetic bunch, "indigenous" at that point, to the Wind River Range in Wyoming. Within a century or less they became the best horseman anyone had ever seen.

    That gets to this story of their looting of Linnville. Killing and torturing other peoples and stealing horses was not just war, but it was LIFE itself to the Comanche men. The women were beasts of burden with benefits basically.

    .

    * What "Comanche" meant in Comanche. No peace and perfect harmony among nations with this crowd...

    Replies: @John Henry, @OsMagyar, @Buroaker, @Achmed E. Newman, @Hypnotoad666, @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.

    The greatest most well known Comanche warrior was half white…
    ….. his mother may have been a typical sausage eater from the old country…

  36. In those days living in Texas was pretty much warfare all the time. Battle with Indians, outlaws, and feuds were standard. That’s what made Texas’s larger-than-life reputation for toughness.

    Texas isn’t lost yet, but it will have to recover that spirit if it is to continue as a white man’s country.

    • Agree: Pastit
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Tex

    If they have one more fight in them, it should be with the Feds. The Feds have been purposely obstructing and derailing Texas efforts to control parts of their border. These Potomac Regime minions must be arrested - that's the first, step.

  37. @Kylie
    @Dream

    "Why are conservative Americans like this?"

    I don't consider Lindsey Graham a conservative.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @John Henry, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @Wilkey, @Anonymous, @Legba

    Lindsey is the dork who’s trying to make friends with the popular kid. The dork thinks he’s making progress, while the popular kid will just ignore him or mock him when he’s no longer useful.

    I have nothing against Israel or its survival. I just don’t understand why so many non-Jewish Americans are so damn obsessed with it, even as they embrace the overrunning of every other Western country by Third World invaders.

    Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians will probably end up leaving Gaza, and guess where they’ll want to go? Thousands of them will be coming to a neighborhood near you.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Wilkey

    Not only that, Wilkey, but it's the Jewish Family Services org that is bringing them in! VDare's Former Agent has an article about this today - As Israel Is Under Attack, Jewish Family Services Buses Are Picking Up Arab Illegals At The Border.

    Remember, these are your High IQ people. Imagine what the low IQ people are up to - they are the ones coming in.

    Replies: @Bragadocious

    , @Anon
    @Wilkey


    I have nothing against Israel or its survival.
     
    Do you have anything against Palestine and its survival? Gaza and its survival?

    Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians will probably end up leaving Gaza, and guess where they’ll want to go?
     
    The Grand Bargain between jews and the Arab world is the trade of Palestine to the jews for access of Arabs to the United States and Europe. The beneficiaries of this access are disproportionately wealthy and advantaged Arabs—in other words, their natural leadership class. By co-opting the Arab leadership class with Western goodies, the jews have neutered Arab resistance to Zionism.
    , @Jack Armstrong
    @Wilkey

    O/T: From the Harvard student newspaper.


    Former Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao Calls for National Asian American Museum at Harvard IOP Forum

    Former U.S. Secretary of Transportation Elaine L. Chao called for a National Museum of Asian Pacific American History and Culture during a Harvard Institute of Politics forum Tuesday, arguing that such a museum would help combat the rise in anti-Asian hate.

    During the forum Tuesday — moderated by Harvard Business School senior lecturer John D. Macomber — Chao called for the museum to be built along Washington’s National Mall, where many of the country’s Smithsonian Museums are located.

    “If a national museum were to be established that would talk about the history and culture of Asians in America and Asian Americans that would develop or cultivate a greater tolerance, and a greater understanding and appreciation,” said Chao, the first Asian American woman to serve in the U.S. Cabinet.

    It’s got to be on the National Mall because respect is very important,” she added.

    Chao said the “onslaught of violence” against Asian Americans linked to the “spillover” of poor U.S.-China relations has underscored the importance of acknowledging and celebrating Asian Americans’ contributions to American history.

    “This community before has been relatively reserved, quiet, and now understands the importance of speaking up, finding their voice, and making known their concerns,” Chao said.

    “This should be celebrated,” she added.

    Chao — the 12-year cabinet veteran — also discussed the “incredible opportunities” artificial intelligence can provide to expand access to knowledge across class, educational background, and age. She praised innovation as “a huge part of who we are” as Americans.

    “I think AI has a better potential to help even the playing field of those with different skill sets, different talents,” she said.

    “A person who may not have been educated on a particular topic can speak with ease at a push of a button just by asking ChatGPT,” Chao added.

    While lauding the educational benefits of AI, Chao — who is married to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell — said she was concerned that large sectors of the labor force may be eliminated by developing technology, calling for government intervention.

    “They are basically competing with a person who has spent their whole life studying a particular topic,” Chao said. “And so what does that mean to workers? Is that a plus? Is that a negative?”

    “The government has a really big responsibility to try and ease that adjustment,” she added.

    Chao, a Taiwanese immigrant, also discussed her family heritage and pursuit of the American dream, detailing her 37-day journey across the Pacific Ocean to New York at the age of eight with her mother and six sisters — one of whom was in attendance at Tuesday’s forum.

    “My parents have a great deal of courage because they came to America armed only with their dreams and their belief in this country,” Chao said. “They knew that this country would give their daughters so much more opportunity, yet they didn’t know what these opportunities were.”

    Chao recalled as a child being “so confused” by American cultural traditions like hamburgers, pizza, and children dressing as monsters “sticking these huge empty bags in our faces chanting this indecipherable chant”— which her family later realized was their first experience with Halloween trick-or-treating.

    “The next year, we learned that it was a free way to get free candy, and we became the best trick-or-treaters in the neighborhood,” Chao joked.

    —Staff writer Thomas J. Mete can be reached at [email protected]. Follow him on X @thomasjmete.

     

  38. @Arclight
    I read "The First Frontier" last year after another commenter recommended it, which discusses the initial settlement of the East Coast and associated conflict with native tribes. Brutality on both sides and of course totally alien cultures and values that made it all worse. I honestly don't know how people had the guts to set up homesteads on the frontier and miles away from any help.

    At any rate, one thing to note about the conflicts between Americans settlers/Army and the natives is obviously there is and was respect for their martial prowess. After all, a number of weapons systems have been named after Indian tribes or implements.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I got a list yea long of books to read, but I’ll put The First Frontier and Blood Meridian on it. Thanks, both of you.

    The biggest reason there was NEVER going to be some multicultural merged society of the White Man and Red Man was the understanding and lack thereof, of property rights, respectively.

    As for the Indian names, yes, not just the military helicopters, but also Piper Aircraft went all out on Indian names throughout the General Aviation manufacturer’s history. Oh no, not today, if there were to be a new model… G/A is in a big funk, 20 years running now with no light at the end of the tunnel, same as the Indians …

    Cherokee
    Dakota
    Comanche
    Saratoga
    Seminole
    Seneca
    Aztec
    Navajo

    I’m sure I left a few out.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Achmed E. Newman


    The biggest reason there was NEVER going to be some multicultural merged society of the White Man and Red Man was the understanding and lack thereof, of property rights, respectively.
     
    Exactly. The standard line is that whites "stole their land." But it's not like any Indian had a deed to it.

    And that's not treating Indians any different than whites. If you were a settler who bought some land to farm and some white guy showed up saying it was "his land" because he used to sometimes hunt there, you'd tell him to piss off. And if he didn't, there would probably be some violence eventually.

    Replies: @Prester John, @Erik L, @Anonymous

    , @J.Ross
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I hate Steve Inskeep for many logical reasons (he once argued that Hungarians were being unreasonable to worry about the flood of criminal aliens pouring over their borders because, after all, these criminals apparently had a different ultimate goal than the nation they were then attacking) but he has impressed the Iron Man Halloween mask off of comic book enthisiast and sometime Constitutional law professor Hugh Hewitt with his new book about Lincoln, Differ We Must, in part thanks to an incredible meeting nobody ever heard of, and which, given its politics may well be a movie before Steven "Rocky Road" Spielberg goes to the luxury shotgun shop in the sky. The meeting:
    >Abraham has his hands full with the War of His Own Aggression
    >But America's great Western afterthought is making noise
    >Can't let settler-Indian fights spill over and mess up messing up the South
    >Depicted Lincoln for these reasons, at a special meeting of Indian chiefs at the White House, the White Man's ways as beneficial to those Indians willing to give them a try
    >Eschew violence with the settlers and prospecters, therefore, he asked
    >Fatidifically replied without difficulty Cheyenne chief Lean Bear, "it's not us, it's you -- tell the white settlers what you're telling us"
    >Ghoulishly, the years shortly following saw the most grisly slaughters of Indians in the West
    >Harborage was denied to the worst Western-posted American soldiers -- they were investigated and executed (in the 19th century) -- because their recourse to reckless slaughter shocked people even then
    >Included among the dead were three of the chiefs who had been at that summit (and posed for a photograph in the White House greenhouse), among them Lean Bear

    Replies: @mike99588

    , @Arclight
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I know Blood Meridian is supposed to be an excellent book, but after reading All the Pretty Horses and The Road I felt like I had enough of McCarthy. Undoubtedly a great writer but the books are just so dark it's not exactly what I want to spend an hour with before bed.

    Anyway, I agree on the comment about property and ownership, although the introduction of Euro diseases virtually ensured that even if it had been all love and flowers the native population was going to be dramatically reduced. It is noted that although it was observed along the coast that natives tended to die a lot more often from sickness than Europeans, unbeknownst to the settlers travel by natives between coastal locations to inland areas had already spread disease and depopulated a number of villages before any Europeans ever got there, although once they did they could tell there had once been a lot more people.

    To return to our present time, the issue in Israel is irreconcilable without one side or the other being totally subjugated or wiped out. Like Kashmir, Kosovo, Nagorno-Karabakh, there is too much convoluted history, honor, divergent cultures and previous blood having been spilt. I was very surprised to learn that given all that, the Israeli population is by policy almost totally disarmed, with most weapons kept in centralized depots that are not quickly accessible in emergencies like the present That seems to be an incredibly stupid practice given past experience. I am grateful we have the 2A and plan to further avail myself of the freedoms it provides in the very near future.

    Replies: @Corpse Tooth, @Anonymous, @Achmed E. Newman

  39. @Steve Sailer
    @Cutter

    No.

    Replies: @cool daddy jimbo, @Cutter, @J.Ross, @Clifford Brown, @Paul Rise

    I suggest you do not from what I can infer of your tastes, but it is very possible that it might impress you; it’s the go-to best American novel for people who don’t dig Pynchon, Heller, Gaddis, Melville, or that dude who wrote Stoner. Reliable thread on 4chan’s /tv/ board: how do we adapt Blood Meridian to film? My answer: You don’t. You can’t. Not because of the violence, but because the best part (and really the whole selling point of the thing) is its prose, and you obliterate prose when you film it. The book itself: tldr — let us finally exterminate and erase the Myth of the American Cowboy once and for all by showing in graphic detail how completely awful some of them could be. To an extent, the admiration of this novel is worryingly similar to the fandoms of Scarface, Apocalypse Now, Clockwork Orange, etc, that is it’s not shlock but it is shock, and, had it less art, many of the same people would sing many of the same praises.

  40. @Altai3
    One that has struck me is just how neocon the Biden admin is. I heard his speech and it really sounds to me like Tony Blinken is actually the president of the United States now. The US isn't urging restraint, it is giving the green light to Israel to go savage in Gaza. How far will Netanyahu go? Will he try and expel the Gazans into Egypt? (And onward into Europe) When they cross into Gaza it will trigger a wider war with Hezbollah and depending on how that goes it could suck in Syria and Iran. It's worth noting that the idea of taking and ethnically cleansing Gaza and the West Bank is pretty mainstream at this stage in Israeli politics and is the long-term goal of basically everyone in Netanyahu's coalition.

    You'd think given how badly Ukraine has turned out they'd be trying to talk sense into the Israelis to try and contain this but when you've got Blinken in your state department and a man who has lost his mental faculties as president and probably relies on the people around him to tell him what to think, you get a runaway disaster.

    One thing to note which is very important and I don't see talked about is, since the US has lost his hegemon status in the idiotic overreach in Ukraine out of the neocon tantrum about the Russian intervention in Syria, every day the US military golem becomes a depreciating asset for Israel. Will this fact, that every day it will become harder for the US military to act for Israel (Along with this admin being ridiculously slavish to Israel) motivate Netanyahu to use this opportunity to push for this to go into a regional war? But can the US win it for Israel?

    Blinken is fascinating because nobody brings up him being a creature of deep state nepotism, his father and uncle both being US ambassadors. His intense neocon views also seem to obscured by his low-key nature and ambiguous name.

    The other interesting thing about Blinken is he is the archetypal invade-the-world, invite-the-world guy having previously served as UN ambassador with Obama during the million man march during the height of the Israel/State Department funded Syrian civil war. During that time he made a video with Grover the muppet propagandising to children about the necessity of Europe to take all these men, forever.

    Here he is at AIPAC in late 2015.

    Invade the world. (On behalf of the Sabras)

    https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1331159077397929985

    Here he is with Grover in 2016 talking about the million man march.

    Invite the world. (On behalf of the diaspora)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUxKsG5YrPE

    A perfect twofer.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Anonymous, @Hypnotoad666, @Wilkey, @HammerJack, @TWS

    It’s worth noting that the idea of taking and ethnically cleansing Gaza and the West Bank is pretty mainstream at this stage in Israeli politics and is the long-term goal of basically everyone in Netanyahu’s coalition.

    They need a final solution to their Palestinian problem so that they can finally have an ethnically pure state with the living space necessary to thrive.

    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic, Gordo
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Hypnotoad666

    “They need a final solution to their Palestinian problem so that they can finally have an ethnically pure state with the living space necessary to thrive”

    Lol, that’s also the dream for you and your ilk—s scorched earth policy for your “enemies”. Thankfully, you don’t the guts to pull a Kyle or a St. Brievik.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  41. @Wilkey
    @Kylie

    Lindsey is the dork who’s trying to make friends with the popular kid. The dork thinks he’s making progress, while the popular kid will just ignore him or mock him when he’s no longer useful.

    I have nothing against Israel or its survival. I just don’t understand why so many non-Jewish Americans are so damn obsessed with it, even as they embrace the overrunning of every other Western country by Third World invaders.

    Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians will probably end up leaving Gaza, and guess where they’ll want to go? Thousands of them will be coming to a neighborhood near you.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @Jack Armstrong

    Not only that, Wilkey, but it’s the Jewish Family Services org that is bringing them in! VDare’s Former Agent has an article about this today – As Israel Is Under Attack, Jewish Family Services Buses Are Picking Up Arab Illegals At The Border.

    Remember, these are your High IQ people. Imagine what the low IQ people are up to – they are the ones coming in.

    • Thanks: MEH 0910, The Anti-Gnostic
    • Replies: @Bragadocious
    @Achmed E. Newman

    This is a good thing (in part). Now, when Zionists go to Times Square to wave flags and chant racist crap, there's significant pushback by real live Arabs with real flags. That didn't happen back in the 1980s when Zionist Jews had complete control of the media, academia and the public square. Back then, the only critics of Zionism were on the nativist Right, and Jews could wave them off as pitiful irrelevant anti-Semites. They can't do that with the new left--they've even (apparently) lost Harvard University!

    Obviously, these new arrivals to America could present other, more kinetic problems in the future, but from a narrative control standpoint, it's pretty cool that they're here.

    Replies: @Renard

  42. @Dream
    These people care more about Israel than they care about their own people.

    https://twitter.com/hemantmehta/status/1711134058971840809?t=-OPJOqD_HLydsGkySK6ylA&s=19

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Barnard, @Bardon Kaldian, @Corpse Tooth

    It may not seem like it, but this stuff does appear to be on the wane. I am seeing a lot less of it than I used to from dispensationalist Christians. The Jews who called abortion part of their religion made a dent in the unthinking, knee jerk support for Israel.

  43. @Altai3
    One that has struck me is just how neocon the Biden admin is. I heard his speech and it really sounds to me like Tony Blinken is actually the president of the United States now. The US isn't urging restraint, it is giving the green light to Israel to go savage in Gaza. How far will Netanyahu go? Will he try and expel the Gazans into Egypt? (And onward into Europe) When they cross into Gaza it will trigger a wider war with Hezbollah and depending on how that goes it could suck in Syria and Iran. It's worth noting that the idea of taking and ethnically cleansing Gaza and the West Bank is pretty mainstream at this stage in Israeli politics and is the long-term goal of basically everyone in Netanyahu's coalition.

    You'd think given how badly Ukraine has turned out they'd be trying to talk sense into the Israelis to try and contain this but when you've got Blinken in your state department and a man who has lost his mental faculties as president and probably relies on the people around him to tell him what to think, you get a runaway disaster.

    One thing to note which is very important and I don't see talked about is, since the US has lost his hegemon status in the idiotic overreach in Ukraine out of the neocon tantrum about the Russian intervention in Syria, every day the US military golem becomes a depreciating asset for Israel. Will this fact, that every day it will become harder for the US military to act for Israel (Along with this admin being ridiculously slavish to Israel) motivate Netanyahu to use this opportunity to push for this to go into a regional war? But can the US win it for Israel?

    Blinken is fascinating because nobody brings up him being a creature of deep state nepotism, his father and uncle both being US ambassadors. His intense neocon views also seem to obscured by his low-key nature and ambiguous name.

    The other interesting thing about Blinken is he is the archetypal invade-the-world, invite-the-world guy having previously served as UN ambassador with Obama during the million man march during the height of the Israel/State Department funded Syrian civil war. During that time he made a video with Grover the muppet propagandising to children about the necessity of Europe to take all these men, forever.

    Here he is at AIPAC in late 2015.

    Invade the world. (On behalf of the Sabras)

    https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1331159077397929985

    Here he is with Grover in 2016 talking about the million man march.

    Invite the world. (On behalf of the diaspora)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUxKsG5YrPE

    A perfect twofer.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Anonymous, @Hypnotoad666, @Wilkey, @HammerJack, @TWS

    And how many Syrian refugees did Israel admit? It’s anti-Semitic to even ask.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Wilkey

    Admit? Not so many. But ask how many they create in a week!

  44. @Achmed E. Newman
    That's some fascinating history. I guess this sort of thing wouldn't get taught to the children, probably 50 years running now, as we can't have anyone going against the narrative of "White Man bad / Red man good". Things were indeed a lot more nuanced, a lot more complicated and not a matter of simply US v Indians.

    I've linked to them before, but here are the 3 Parts of the Peak Stupidity review of the great Sam Gwynne book Empire of the Summer Moon: Part 1 - - Part 2 - -Part 3.

    The HBD or more anti-HBD story behind the Comanches, as Mr. Gwynne discusses at the beginning of his book, is that before they had horses (coming from the Spanish via Mexico), "The People"* were a pathetic bunch, "indigenous" at that point, to the Wind River Range in Wyoming. Within a century or less they became the best horseman anyone had ever seen.

    That gets to this story of their looting of Linnville. Killing and torturing other peoples and stealing horses was not just war, but it was LIFE itself to the Comanche men. The women were beasts of burden with benefits basically.

    .

    * What "Comanche" meant in Comanche. No peace and perfect harmony among nations with this crowd...

    Replies: @John Henry, @OsMagyar, @Buroaker, @Achmed E. Newman, @Hypnotoad666, @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.

    Oops, I do agree with myself on most occasions but meant to hit the button for the Captain.

    The modern way: Achmed LIKED “History is awesome.”

  45. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Arclight

    I got a list yea long of books to read, but I'll put The First Frontier and Blood Meridian on it. Thanks, both of you.

    The biggest reason there was NEVER going to be some multicultural merged society of the White Man and Red Man was the understanding and lack thereof, of property rights, respectively.

    As for the Indian names, yes, not just the military helicopters, but also Piper Aircraft went all out on Indian names throughout the General Aviation manufacturer's history. Oh no, not today, if there were to be a new model... G/A is in a big funk, 20 years running now with no light at the end of the tunnel, same as the Indians ...

    Cherokee
    Dakota
    Comanche
    Saratoga
    Seminole
    Seneca
    Aztec
    Navajo

    I'm sure I left a few out.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @J.Ross, @Arclight

    The biggest reason there was NEVER going to be some multicultural merged society of the White Man and Red Man was the understanding and lack thereof, of property rights, respectively.

    Exactly. The standard line is that whites “stole their land.” But it’s not like any Indian had a deed to it.

    And that’s not treating Indians any different than whites. If you were a settler who bought some land to farm and some white guy showed up saying it was “his land” because he used to sometimes hunt there, you’d tell him to piss off. And if he didn’t, there would probably be some violence eventually.

    • Replies: @Prester John
    @Hypnotoad666

    Actually the Injuns said nobody "owned" land--it was just "there".

    And, in a way, they were right. May as well "own" the planet Venus. Ownership is a legal fiction. Nothing more or less. People come and go, the land (whether developed or undeveloped) was and is always "there". It was there even when underwater eons ago and there was no one around to "own" it.

    , @Erik L
    @Hypnotoad666

    Evolution has written many programs in our brains.

    The one that explains the most history is: "Divide up into teams then fight over land"

    , @Anonymous
    @Hypnotoad666


    Exactly. The standard line is that whites “stole their land.” But it’s not like any Indian had a deed to it.
     
    Oh, come on now. A deed to the land had meaning in our culture, not in theirs. And it's not like it helped the Cherokee or the other Civilized Tribes, or even much smaller scale earlier examples, like the civilized, christianized Indian villages and families in the northeast.

    Of course Indians were crushed and cleared off the land, often in brutal ways. That was normal then both in their cultures, and in ours. Obsessing over the United States' "original sin" or whatever they call it is for the ill-intentioned and the stupid. But trying to wiggle out of the truth of how the land was won and cleared is for the weak. Just own it.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

  46. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Arclight

    I got a list yea long of books to read, but I'll put The First Frontier and Blood Meridian on it. Thanks, both of you.

    The biggest reason there was NEVER going to be some multicultural merged society of the White Man and Red Man was the understanding and lack thereof, of property rights, respectively.

    As for the Indian names, yes, not just the military helicopters, but also Piper Aircraft went all out on Indian names throughout the General Aviation manufacturer's history. Oh no, not today, if there were to be a new model... G/A is in a big funk, 20 years running now with no light at the end of the tunnel, same as the Indians ...

    Cherokee
    Dakota
    Comanche
    Saratoga
    Seminole
    Seneca
    Aztec
    Navajo

    I'm sure I left a few out.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @J.Ross, @Arclight

    I hate Steve Inskeep for many logical reasons (he once argued that Hungarians were being unreasonable to worry about the flood of criminal aliens pouring over their borders because, after all, these criminals apparently had a different ultimate goal than the nation they were then attacking) but he has impressed the Iron Man Halloween mask off of comic book enthisiast and sometime Constitutional law professor Hugh Hewitt with his new book about Lincoln, Differ We Must, in part thanks to an incredible meeting nobody ever heard of, and which, given its politics may well be a movie before Steven “Rocky Road” Spielberg goes to the luxury shotgun shop in the sky. The meeting:
    >Abraham has his hands full with the War of His Own Aggression
    >But America’s great Western afterthought is making noise
    >Can’t let settler-Indian fights spill over and mess up messing up the South
    >Depicted Lincoln for these reasons, at a special meeting of Indian chiefs at the White House, the White Man’s ways as beneficial to those Indians willing to give them a try
    >Eschew violence with the settlers and prospecters, therefore, he asked
    >Fatidifically replied without difficulty Cheyenne chief Lean Bear, “it’s not us, it’s you — tell the white settlers what you’re telling us”
    >Ghoulishly, the years shortly following saw the most grisly slaughters of Indians in the West
    >Harborage was denied to the worst Western-posted American soldiers — they were investigated and executed (in the 19th century) — because their recourse to reckless slaughter shocked people even then
    >Included among the dead were three of the chiefs who had been at that summit (and posed for a photograph in the White House greenhouse), among them Lean Bear

    • Replies: @mike99588
    @J.Ross

    it became a techno slaughter - centerfire cartridges with multishot Winchesters, Colts, Remingtons etc became affordable and reliable after the Civil War ....

    Before Civil War, rapid fire was expensive and less reliable - rimfire rifles and cap and ball, paper cartridge hand guns

  47. @Achmed E. Newman
    That's some fascinating history. I guess this sort of thing wouldn't get taught to the children, probably 50 years running now, as we can't have anyone going against the narrative of "White Man bad / Red man good". Things were indeed a lot more nuanced, a lot more complicated and not a matter of simply US v Indians.

    I've linked to them before, but here are the 3 Parts of the Peak Stupidity review of the great Sam Gwynne book Empire of the Summer Moon: Part 1 - - Part 2 - -Part 3.

    The HBD or more anti-HBD story behind the Comanches, as Mr. Gwynne discusses at the beginning of his book, is that before they had horses (coming from the Spanish via Mexico), "The People"* were a pathetic bunch, "indigenous" at that point, to the Wind River Range in Wyoming. Within a century or less they became the best horseman anyone had ever seen.

    That gets to this story of their looting of Linnville. Killing and torturing other peoples and stealing horses was not just war, but it was LIFE itself to the Comanche men. The women were beasts of burden with benefits basically.

    .

    * What "Comanche" meant in Comanche. No peace and perfect harmony among nations with this crowd...

    Replies: @John Henry, @OsMagyar, @Buroaker, @Achmed E. Newman, @Hypnotoad666, @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.

    The People”*

    * What “Comanche” meant in Comanche.

    It seems like every tribe’s name for itself translates as “us” or “the people.” Whereas their name for the next tribe over is usually “those bastards,” or “the enemy.” Of course we would often first learn about a tribe from its neighbors, so a lot of tribes are now named after their neighbor’s perjorative.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Hypnotoad666


    Of course we would often first learn about a tribe from its neighbors, so a lot of tribes are now named after their neighbor’s perjorative.
     
    E.g., Methodists and Quakers.
    , @J.Ross
    @Hypnotoad666

    There are two Siberian peoples whose ethnonym is not "people," but "real [as opposed to fake] people:" the Luoravetalen (which are Chukchi, be they reindeer Chukchi or walrus Chukchi), and the Nganasan. They are literally keeping it real.

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Hypnotoad666

    Conceptually, it was more like "the human beings" and "the other beings."

    I remember asking a Georgian (the country) what they called their country since I only knew the anglicized "Georgia." He looked at me puzzled and said, in English, "It's 'the Land.'"

    The People. The People's Land. Our Land. This is what we want and feel in our bones, no matter how much we pretend otherwise. It's why even Barack and Mish buy a 9BR mansion with 26 empty acres around it.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Anonymous
    @Hypnotoad666


    Of course we would often first learn about a tribe from its neighbors, so a lot of tribes are now named after their neighbor’s perjorative.
     
    Such as?

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

  48. When did “Texians” replace “Texans”? Or was it the other way around?

    • Replies: @res
    @Yancey Ward

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texians


    Texians were Anglo-American residents of Mexican Texas and, later, the Republic of Texas. Today, the term is used to identify early settlers of Texas, especially those who supported the Texas Revolution. Mexican settlers of that era are referred to as Tejanos, and residents of modern Texas are known as Texans.
     
    More at the link.

    Replies: @Yancey Ward

    , @Mike Tre
    @Yancey Ward

    This reminds me of people who always used to say Key-ev, then started saying Keev to be fashionable.

  49. @Wilkey
    @Altai3

    And how many Syrian refugees did Israel admit? It’s anti-Semitic to even ask.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Admit? Not so many. But ask how many they create in a week!

  50. @Cutter
    Steve, have you ever read Blood Meridian?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Harry Baldwin

    On this topic, why would you recommend Cormac McCarthy’s Blood Meridian rather than S. C. Gwynne’s Empire of the Summer Moon? While I admire the former as a vivid piece of fiction, the latter is a well-researched history of the Comanche nation that includes a detailed account of the sacking of Linnville.

    • Agree: Sam Hildebrand
    • Thanks: MEH 0910, Liza
    • Replies: @Corpse Tooth
    @Harry Baldwin

    Read Blood Meridian first. Top tier fiction provides insights and nuances that non-fiction cannot provide due to its constraints (facts). A family member of mine read Gwynne's book and deemed it excellent. He is now dead.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

  51. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Arclight

    I got a list yea long of books to read, but I'll put The First Frontier and Blood Meridian on it. Thanks, both of you.

    The biggest reason there was NEVER going to be some multicultural merged society of the White Man and Red Man was the understanding and lack thereof, of property rights, respectively.

    As for the Indian names, yes, not just the military helicopters, but also Piper Aircraft went all out on Indian names throughout the General Aviation manufacturer's history. Oh no, not today, if there were to be a new model... G/A is in a big funk, 20 years running now with no light at the end of the tunnel, same as the Indians ...

    Cherokee
    Dakota
    Comanche
    Saratoga
    Seminole
    Seneca
    Aztec
    Navajo

    I'm sure I left a few out.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @J.Ross, @Arclight

    I know Blood Meridian is supposed to be an excellent book, but after reading All the Pretty Horses and The Road I felt like I had enough of McCarthy. Undoubtedly a great writer but the books are just so dark it’s not exactly what I want to spend an hour with before bed.

    Anyway, I agree on the comment about property and ownership, although the introduction of Euro diseases virtually ensured that even if it had been all love and flowers the native population was going to be dramatically reduced. It is noted that although it was observed along the coast that natives tended to die a lot more often from sickness than Europeans, unbeknownst to the settlers travel by natives between coastal locations to inland areas had already spread disease and depopulated a number of villages before any Europeans ever got there, although once they did they could tell there had once been a lot more people.

    To return to our present time, the issue in Israel is irreconcilable without one side or the other being totally subjugated or wiped out. Like Kashmir, Kosovo, Nagorno-Karabakh, there is too much convoluted history, honor, divergent cultures and previous blood having been spilt. I was very surprised to learn that given all that, the Israeli population is by policy almost totally disarmed, with most weapons kept in centralized depots that are not quickly accessible in emergencies like the present That seems to be an incredibly stupid practice given past experience. I am grateful we have the 2A and plan to further avail myself of the freedoms it provides in the very near future.

    • Replies: @Corpse Tooth
    @Arclight

    Chicks dig guys who spend an hour with a dark book before beddy-bye. I discovered this after I took to breaking out the dark book after sexy hijinks to get them to go back to their apartment. I became even more attractive to them.

    , @Anonymous
    @Arclight


    To return to our present time, the issue in Israel is irreconcilable without one side or the other being totally subjugated or wiped out.
     
    Or, the jews could grant the Gentiles equal rights. Duh. Same thing the jews demand for themselves and other minorities in the United States.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Arclight


    All the Pretty Horses and The Road I felt like I had enough of McCarthy. Undoubtedly a great writer but the books are just so dark it’s not exactly what I want to spend an hour with before bed.
     
    Of those 2, I've only seen The Road as a movie. Yes, not very optimistic - a good prepper lesson though.

    Agreed about the weapons too, Arclight. That reminds me of Fort Hood, Texas, or whatever they're calling it now.

    I haven't checked ammo prices in at least a year. You're never stocked up enough, if nothing else, for inflation.

    Replies: @FPD72, @Adam Smith

  52. @Dream
    Why are conservative Americans like this?

    https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1711928827318866331?t=-9syu4rm4zpRhoWMOFHxkw&s=19

    Replies: @Kylie, @Anon, @deep anonymous, @JosephD, @Director95, @anonymouseperson, @James Braxton, @Dr. X

    Lindsey is no conservative. He is 100% all in on war. His mantra – Your tax money goes to the war machine. How in the fvck is that conservative. He conserves nothing.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Director95

    Support for the military and most of its adventures by Conservatives is an artifact of the Cold War, Director. Conservatives wanted to conserve a world not enveloped by Communism. After it was won, by a whole lot of Conservatives, there was no need for any of this. Real Conservatives understand that.

    I should say that they not only understand that but aren't beholden to Neocon donors and pressure and their own avarice. That's been kind of rare around Washington, FS.

  53. @Hypnotoad666
    @Achmed E. Newman


    The People”*

    * What “Comanche” meant in Comanche.
     

    It seems like every tribe's name for itself translates as "us" or "the people." Whereas their name for the next tribe over is usually "those bastards," or "the enemy." Of course we would often first learn about a tribe from its neighbors, so a lot of tribes are now named after their neighbor's perjorative.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Anonymous

    Of course we would often first learn about a tribe from its neighbors, so a lot of tribes are now named after their neighbor’s perjorative.

    E.g., Methodists and Quakers.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
    • LOL: Hypnotoad666
  54. @Anonymous
    Slightly O.T.

    BLM - which, of course, was part founded by a Palestinian, has come out in full support of Hamas.

    Expect to see BLM quietly, but surely, wither away and slowly disappear from all public exposure, discourse and notice in the near future. Quite simply, the gatekeepers of the media will drop them like a hot potato and completely ignore them as if they do not exist.
    Remember, the only power BLM ever had was saturation coverage from a media agreeable with its agenda. Now its agenda is disagreeable, its oxygen will be swiftly cut off.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Danindc, @Prester John, @res, @Muggles, @Colin Wright

    BLM was never more than a scam anyway but, nevertheless, spot-on just the same. To Big Media, BLM has served its purpose so…onward.

  55. Anonymous[260] • Disclaimer says:

    As with many ethnic conflicts, who were the bad guys and who were the good guys tend to flip-flop depending upon how far back in the chain of retaliatory counter-atrocities you go to start the narrative. Do you start your tale with X -> Y, or previously with Y -> X -> Y, or even further back with X -> Y -> X -> Y, etc.

    The jewish conflict in Palestine began with the jews’ invasion of multiethnic Palestine in the first half of the last century and the jews’ attempt to impose themselves on the local Gentile communities. When the jews started their campaign of conquest, Gentiles were 90% of the population of Palestine.

  56. @Twinkie

    But that suggests how much Americans, north and south, feared the potential of the mounted warriors of the plains.
     
    Much of human history was a story of conflict between pastoralists and agriculturalists, with the former usually beating the latter and assuming the elite stratum among the latter, only for the pattern to repeat later with yet other pastoralists. This went on for centuries until the inventions (e.g. gunpowder) and the organizations (levee en masse) of the agriculturalists finally overtook the fighting prowess and the mobility of the pastoralists and decisively settled the score once and for all.

    Replies: @Catdog, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    You have survivorship bias in saying that pastoralists “usually” beat agriculturalists. Agriculturalists could win 99 out of 100 battles, and only the ones where they lost and were conquered would stick in the minds of anyone literate.

  57. @Hypnotoad666
    @Achmed E. Newman


    The biggest reason there was NEVER going to be some multicultural merged society of the White Man and Red Man was the understanding and lack thereof, of property rights, respectively.
     
    Exactly. The standard line is that whites "stole their land." But it's not like any Indian had a deed to it.

    And that's not treating Indians any different than whites. If you were a settler who bought some land to farm and some white guy showed up saying it was "his land" because he used to sometimes hunt there, you'd tell him to piss off. And if he didn't, there would probably be some violence eventually.

    Replies: @Prester John, @Erik L, @Anonymous

    Actually the Injuns said nobody “owned” land–it was just “there”.

    And, in a way, they were right. May as well “own” the planet Venus. Ownership is a legal fiction. Nothing more or less. People come and go, the land (whether developed or undeveloped) was and is always “there”. It was there even when underwater eons ago and there was no one around to “own” it.

  58. @Hypnotoad666
    @Achmed E. Newman


    The biggest reason there was NEVER going to be some multicultural merged society of the White Man and Red Man was the understanding and lack thereof, of property rights, respectively.
     
    Exactly. The standard line is that whites "stole their land." But it's not like any Indian had a deed to it.

    And that's not treating Indians any different than whites. If you were a settler who bought some land to farm and some white guy showed up saying it was "his land" because he used to sometimes hunt there, you'd tell him to piss off. And if he didn't, there would probably be some violence eventually.

    Replies: @Prester John, @Erik L, @Anonymous

    Evolution has written many programs in our brains.

    The one that explains the most history is: “Divide up into teams then fight over land”

  59. @Dream
    These people care more about Israel than they care about their own people.

    https://twitter.com/hemantmehta/status/1711134058971840809?t=-OPJOqD_HLydsGkySK6ylA&s=19

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Barnard, @Bardon Kaldian, @Corpse Tooth

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12617621/Israeli-official-calls-Doomsday-missile-shakes-Middle-East-used-response-Hamas-attacks-despite-nation-never-openly-admitting-having-nuclear-weapons.html

    Israeli official calls for ‘Doomsday’ missile that ‘shakes the Middle East’ to be used in response to Hamas attacks – despite the nation never openly admitting to having nuclear weapons

    That’s why hysterical pre-menopausal women should be better kept away in the time of crisis….

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Speaking of times of crisis, thoughts on your beloved party's asylum seeker housing policies bringing a bedbug infestation to Croatia? For once at the forefront of European trends!

    Yes, yes, we're all connected, it would've happened sooner or later... Sure. But that wasn't good enough for the beloved party. Delaying this for as long as possible, being prepared and actively practicing preventative measures just wasn't an option.

    Instead, asylum seekers and all sorts of illegals are shitting in the streets and wallowing in dirt in apartments all over the country. Allowed in and housed, just like that, and inflicting disease and infestation on their helpless Croatian neighbors. As if the fear they've already brought to these communities wasn't bad enough.

    I'm sure some think it's all worth it. Wouldn't want to fall behind the West! Move out of the way, France! Croatia will show you infestation!

    Remember the scabies they brought to Bosnia a while ago? That was back when Croatia was still pretending that it had a border and that old, boring public health concerns mattered. Now that that's all out of the window at a time when a replay of 2015 is loading, I'm sure there's much excitement to look forward to.

    And if that's not enough, much as I empathize with their situation, most among the flood of exotic legal foreign workers (many of whom work with food!) aren't actually that much more hygienic.

    The beloved ruling party, of course, has never been stronger. Demoralizing. I wish there was a place one could go and actually escape. But, sooner or later, this just follows you anywhere.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  60. Injuns fought the U.S. and got their asses handed to them. Same thing the Confederates did. Funny how libwipes worship one and hate the other.

    After a day of drunken revels, the Comanche, wearing top hats and other loot onto pack mules, headed home with their 3,000 stolen horses, burning Linnville to the ground. Normally, the Texas Rangers could never catch the hard riding Comanches, but this time their pack mules slowed them down

    .

    During the Nat Turner slave revolt, as I remember, several of the marauding slaves stopped at a White owned farm–I forget if they killed the owners, or if the Whites had fled before the slaves got there, but the farm was taken over by the slaves. It was a prosperous farm, locally famous for the quality of their pigs, as well as the brandy that they made from their apples.

    The groids ransacked the house for valuables, and, weary from their “labors”, slaughtered some hogs and had themselves a BBQ feast, washing the pork down with the stored bottles of apple brandy.

    Free booze, pigmeat, and shiny things that they stole from mean ol’ YT=Colored Boy Heaven! Who cares about tomorrow?

    They passed out after their celebrating, and several hours later, when a White posse found them there, the posse made short work of them, killing/capturing all of them.

  61. @Altai3
    One that has struck me is just how neocon the Biden admin is. I heard his speech and it really sounds to me like Tony Blinken is actually the president of the United States now. The US isn't urging restraint, it is giving the green light to Israel to go savage in Gaza. How far will Netanyahu go? Will he try and expel the Gazans into Egypt? (And onward into Europe) When they cross into Gaza it will trigger a wider war with Hezbollah and depending on how that goes it could suck in Syria and Iran. It's worth noting that the idea of taking and ethnically cleansing Gaza and the West Bank is pretty mainstream at this stage in Israeli politics and is the long-term goal of basically everyone in Netanyahu's coalition.

    You'd think given how badly Ukraine has turned out they'd be trying to talk sense into the Israelis to try and contain this but when you've got Blinken in your state department and a man who has lost his mental faculties as president and probably relies on the people around him to tell him what to think, you get a runaway disaster.

    One thing to note which is very important and I don't see talked about is, since the US has lost his hegemon status in the idiotic overreach in Ukraine out of the neocon tantrum about the Russian intervention in Syria, every day the US military golem becomes a depreciating asset for Israel. Will this fact, that every day it will become harder for the US military to act for Israel (Along with this admin being ridiculously slavish to Israel) motivate Netanyahu to use this opportunity to push for this to go into a regional war? But can the US win it for Israel?

    Blinken is fascinating because nobody brings up him being a creature of deep state nepotism, his father and uncle both being US ambassadors. His intense neocon views also seem to obscured by his low-key nature and ambiguous name.

    The other interesting thing about Blinken is he is the archetypal invade-the-world, invite-the-world guy having previously served as UN ambassador with Obama during the million man march during the height of the Israel/State Department funded Syrian civil war. During that time he made a video with Grover the muppet propagandising to children about the necessity of Europe to take all these men, forever.

    Here he is at AIPAC in late 2015.

    Invade the world. (On behalf of the Sabras)

    https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1331159077397929985

    Here he is with Grover in 2016 talking about the million man march.

    Invite the world. (On behalf of the diaspora)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUxKsG5YrPE

    A perfect twofer.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Anonymous, @Hypnotoad666, @Wilkey, @HammerJack, @TWS

    How far will Netanyahu go? Will he try and expel the Gazans into Egypt?

    Of course not. He will slaughter innocents by the tens of thousands. Expulsion would not slake the Israeli thirst for blood.

  62. @Anonymous
    Slightly O.T.

    BLM - which, of course, was part founded by a Palestinian, has come out in full support of Hamas.

    Expect to see BLM quietly, but surely, wither away and slowly disappear from all public exposure, discourse and notice in the near future. Quite simply, the gatekeepers of the media will drop them like a hot potato and completely ignore them as if they do not exist.
    Remember, the only power BLM ever had was saturation coverage from a media agreeable with its agenda. Now its agenda is disagreeable, its oxygen will be swiftly cut off.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Danindc, @Prester John, @res, @Muggles, @Colin Wright

    A good test case. I suspect your are correct. Another possible outcome is BLM recants.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @res


    A good test case. I suspect your are correct. Another possible outcome is BLM recants.
     
    On the 'Blacks have no agency' principle, I strongly suspect it will just be ignored. Time will tell.
  63. @Dream
    Why are conservative Americans like this?

    https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1711928827318866331?t=-9syu4rm4zpRhoWMOFHxkw&s=19

    Replies: @Kylie, @Anon, @deep anonymous, @JosephD, @Director95, @anonymouseperson, @James Braxton, @Dr. X

    Jewish power money and control of the media and entertainment world of Hollywood. Also I don’t believe they truly are conservatives anyways. They are more like the “wet” Tories of the United Kingdom.

  64. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Wilkey

    Not only that, Wilkey, but it's the Jewish Family Services org that is bringing them in! VDare's Former Agent has an article about this today - As Israel Is Under Attack, Jewish Family Services Buses Are Picking Up Arab Illegals At The Border.

    Remember, these are your High IQ people. Imagine what the low IQ people are up to - they are the ones coming in.

    Replies: @Bragadocious

    This is a good thing (in part). Now, when Zionists go to Times Square to wave flags and chant racist crap, there’s significant pushback by real live Arabs with real flags. That didn’t happen back in the 1980s when Zionist Jews had complete control of the media, academia and the public square. Back then, the only critics of Zionism were on the nativist Right, and Jews could wave them off as pitiful irrelevant anti-Semites. They can’t do that with the new left–they’ve even (apparently) lost Harvard University!

    Obviously, these new arrivals to America could present other, more kinetic problems in the future, but from a narrative control standpoint, it’s pretty cool that they’re here.

    • Replies: @Renard
    @Bragadocious


    They can’t do that with the new left–they’ve even (apparently) lost Harvard University!
     
    Installing Harvard's first black woman president might not turn out to be the genius stroke they were contemplating.
  65. @Hypnotoad666
    @Achmed E. Newman


    The People”*

    * What “Comanche” meant in Comanche.
     

    It seems like every tribe's name for itself translates as "us" or "the people." Whereas their name for the next tribe over is usually "those bastards," or "the enemy." Of course we would often first learn about a tribe from its neighbors, so a lot of tribes are now named after their neighbor's perjorative.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Anonymous

    There are two Siberian peoples whose ethnonym is not “people,” but “real [as opposed to fake] people:” the Luoravetalen (which are Chukchi, be they reindeer Chukchi or walrus Chukchi), and the Nganasan. They are literally keeping it real.

  66. @res
    @Anonymous

    A good test case. I suspect your are correct. Another possible outcome is BLM recants.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    A good test case. I suspect your are correct. Another possible outcome is BLM recants.

    On the ‘Blacks have no agency’ principle, I strongly suspect it will just be ignored. Time will tell.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  67. Anon[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey
    @Kylie

    Lindsey is the dork who’s trying to make friends with the popular kid. The dork thinks he’s making progress, while the popular kid will just ignore him or mock him when he’s no longer useful.

    I have nothing against Israel or its survival. I just don’t understand why so many non-Jewish Americans are so damn obsessed with it, even as they embrace the overrunning of every other Western country by Third World invaders.

    Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians will probably end up leaving Gaza, and guess where they’ll want to go? Thousands of them will be coming to a neighborhood near you.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @Jack Armstrong

    I have nothing against Israel or its survival.

    Do you have anything against Palestine and its survival? Gaza and its survival?

    Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians will probably end up leaving Gaza, and guess where they’ll want to go?

    The Grand Bargain between jews and the Arab world is the trade of Palestine to the jews for access of Arabs to the United States and Europe. The beneficiaries of this access are disproportionately wealthy and advantaged Arabs—in other words, their natural leadership class. By co-opting the Arab leadership class with Western goodies, the jews have neutered Arab resistance to Zionism.

  68. @Harry Baldwin
    @Cutter

    On this topic, why would you recommend Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian rather than S. C. Gwynne's Empire of the Summer Moon? While I admire the former as a vivid piece of fiction, the latter is a well-researched history of the Comanche nation that includes a detailed account of the sacking of Linnville.

    Replies: @Corpse Tooth

    Read Blood Meridian first. Top tier fiction provides insights and nuances that non-fiction cannot provide due to its constraints (facts). A family member of mine read Gwynne’s book and deemed it excellent. He is now dead.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Corpse Tooth

    A family member of mine read Gwynne’s book and deemed it excellent. He is now dead.

    I know how that feels. My sister-in-law died after reading the last Harry Potter book.

  69. @Dream
    These people care more about Israel than they care about their own people.

    https://twitter.com/hemantmehta/status/1711134058971840809?t=-OPJOqD_HLydsGkySK6ylA&s=19

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Barnard, @Bardon Kaldian, @Corpse Tooth

    Christian Zionists are a captive people.

  70. @Arclight
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I know Blood Meridian is supposed to be an excellent book, but after reading All the Pretty Horses and The Road I felt like I had enough of McCarthy. Undoubtedly a great writer but the books are just so dark it's not exactly what I want to spend an hour with before bed.

    Anyway, I agree on the comment about property and ownership, although the introduction of Euro diseases virtually ensured that even if it had been all love and flowers the native population was going to be dramatically reduced. It is noted that although it was observed along the coast that natives tended to die a lot more often from sickness than Europeans, unbeknownst to the settlers travel by natives between coastal locations to inland areas had already spread disease and depopulated a number of villages before any Europeans ever got there, although once they did they could tell there had once been a lot more people.

    To return to our present time, the issue in Israel is irreconcilable without one side or the other being totally subjugated or wiped out. Like Kashmir, Kosovo, Nagorno-Karabakh, there is too much convoluted history, honor, divergent cultures and previous blood having been spilt. I was very surprised to learn that given all that, the Israeli population is by policy almost totally disarmed, with most weapons kept in centralized depots that are not quickly accessible in emergencies like the present That seems to be an incredibly stupid practice given past experience. I am grateful we have the 2A and plan to further avail myself of the freedoms it provides in the very near future.

    Replies: @Corpse Tooth, @Anonymous, @Achmed E. Newman

    Chicks dig guys who spend an hour with a dark book before beddy-bye. I discovered this after I took to breaking out the dark book after sexy hijinks to get them to go back to their apartment. I became even more attractive to them.

  71. @Altai3
    One that has struck me is just how neocon the Biden admin is. I heard his speech and it really sounds to me like Tony Blinken is actually the president of the United States now. The US isn't urging restraint, it is giving the green light to Israel to go savage in Gaza. How far will Netanyahu go? Will he try and expel the Gazans into Egypt? (And onward into Europe) When they cross into Gaza it will trigger a wider war with Hezbollah and depending on how that goes it could suck in Syria and Iran. It's worth noting that the idea of taking and ethnically cleansing Gaza and the West Bank is pretty mainstream at this stage in Israeli politics and is the long-term goal of basically everyone in Netanyahu's coalition.

    You'd think given how badly Ukraine has turned out they'd be trying to talk sense into the Israelis to try and contain this but when you've got Blinken in your state department and a man who has lost his mental faculties as president and probably relies on the people around him to tell him what to think, you get a runaway disaster.

    One thing to note which is very important and I don't see talked about is, since the US has lost his hegemon status in the idiotic overreach in Ukraine out of the neocon tantrum about the Russian intervention in Syria, every day the US military golem becomes a depreciating asset for Israel. Will this fact, that every day it will become harder for the US military to act for Israel (Along with this admin being ridiculously slavish to Israel) motivate Netanyahu to use this opportunity to push for this to go into a regional war? But can the US win it for Israel?

    Blinken is fascinating because nobody brings up him being a creature of deep state nepotism, his father and uncle both being US ambassadors. His intense neocon views also seem to obscured by his low-key nature and ambiguous name.

    The other interesting thing about Blinken is he is the archetypal invade-the-world, invite-the-world guy having previously served as UN ambassador with Obama during the million man march during the height of the Israel/State Department funded Syrian civil war. During that time he made a video with Grover the muppet propagandising to children about the necessity of Europe to take all these men, forever.

    Here he is at AIPAC in late 2015.

    Invade the world. (On behalf of the Sabras)

    https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1331159077397929985

    Here he is with Grover in 2016 talking about the million man march.

    Invite the world. (On behalf of the diaspora)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUxKsG5YrPE

    A perfect twofer.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Anonymous, @Hypnotoad666, @Wilkey, @HammerJack, @TWS

    I think neocons have run foreign policy since Bush the Elder.

  72. @Dream
    Why are conservative Americans like this?

    https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1711928827318866331?t=-9syu4rm4zpRhoWMOFHxkw&s=19

    Replies: @Kylie, @Anon, @deep anonymous, @JosephD, @Director95, @anonymouseperson, @James Braxton, @Dr. X

    More like why do conservative Americans elect homosexual warmongers to represent them?

  73. An oft-overlooked aspect of the Council House Fight: while the Texan men were meeting the Comanche chiefs inside, their women discovered the white girl — horribly mutilated if I recall aright — among the party of Indians remaining outside.

    They got to talking, and the girl related all that had been done to her. The account spread among the Texans…and, well, people got upset.

    …or so I’ve read.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Colin Wright


    They could not help noticing, though, that the Indians had brought only one captive with them. This was Matilda Lockhart, the same girl whose father had called to her during Colonel Moore’s fight on the San Saba a year before. She had been taken in a raid in 1838 along with her younger sister, during which other family members had been killed. She was fifteen, and her appearance in the plaza in San Antonio shocked the people who saw her. As one observer—Mary Maverick, wife of a prominent local merchant—put it, Matilda’s “head, face and arms were full of bruises, and sores, and her nose was actually burnt off to the bone—all the fleshy end gone with a great scab formed on the end of the bone. Both nostrils were wide open and denuded of flesh.”[27] She said she had been tortured by the Comanche women. It was not just her face that had been disfigured. Her entire body bore scars from fire. In private Matilda informed the white women that what she had suffered was even worse than that. She had been “utterly degraded,” she said, using the code word for rape, “and could not hold her head up again.”

    The Comanches were completely oblivious to the effect this had on the Texans. Many of the latter were familiar with the tortures practiced by the eastern tribes such as the Choctaws and Cherokees, which included the use of fire. But it was almost always practiced on men. Those tribes rarely abducted, raped, and tortured white women, as the plains tribes did.[28] Even to people accustomed to Indian violence, the sight of Matilda came as a shock. As if to make things worse, Matilda was an intelligent, perceptive girl who had learned the Comanche language quickly and thus knew that there were other captives in Indian camps. She estimated fifteen. She told the Texans about these captives.

    This was all prelude to the meeting, which took place in a one-story courthouse that would go down in history as the Council House. ...

    [27] Mary Maverick, Memoirs of Mary Maverick, p. 31.
    [28] Fehrenbach, The Comanches, p. 326.

     

    Empire of the Summer Moon, ch. 6

    Perhaps this is "oft-overlooked", but it was one of the most notable parts of the book in my recollection, along with Cynthia Ann Parker's obvious Stockholm syndrome, which Gwynne absurdly tries to pass off as female empowerment.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @obwandiyag

  74. @Anonymous
    Slightly O.T.

    BLM - which, of course, was part founded by a Palestinian, has come out in full support of Hamas.

    Expect to see BLM quietly, but surely, wither away and slowly disappear from all public exposure, discourse and notice in the near future. Quite simply, the gatekeepers of the media will drop them like a hot potato and completely ignore them as if they do not exist.
    Remember, the only power BLM ever had was saturation coverage from a media agreeable with its agenda. Now its agenda is disagreeable, its oxygen will be swiftly cut off.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Danindc, @Prester John, @res, @Muggles, @Colin Wright

    Along the lines of this story, a report says three “Squad” members (female congressmen, Woke Dems) have endorsed the Hamas attacks.

    Or more or less so, by condemning Israel. Two of those three are Somali Muslim imports, one of whom fake married her brother to get him in here.

    So the Comrades are being split by this recent event. Despite many of them being Jewish. Of course the Jews won’t endorse Hamas outright, though some publicly back “Palestinians” in this.

    This recent Hamas raid is like a prison break writ large. Gaza is largely an Israeli prison for uncooperative Palestinians. Funded by Iran, Syria (a bit) and some Gulf Arab states and funders.

    To the degree the Comrades appear divided or perplexed here, this will weaken their ideological hold.

    Due to heavy Jewish influence/ownership/control over US news media, being pro Hamas won’t fly. Also it seems to be a major political blunder and temporary Pyrrhic “victory” for them.

    Now Israel will starve them out and pound them with artillery and missiles. Perhaps raids to capture suspected leaders.

    Like most prison breaks, this will end badly for them.

    Israel pays a heavy price for running this prison. This is about land, not religion. Both Jews and Arabs are famous for being insane bargainers and crazy stubborn.

    Outsiders fund both sides and pay to watch. Innocents pay the price.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Muggles


    Israel pays a heavy price for running this prison.
     
    Americans are the ones who have borne most of the cost, in lives lost and in resources expended.
  75. At the 2012 American Renaissance Conference, Indian Speaker David Yeagley mentioned that of all the Plains Indians tribes, the Comanches were the most fearsome warriors of all. Both the Sioux and Apache had nothing on the Comanches, and that it took the US longer to subdue them than the other tribes of the Plains.

  76. The Rangers managed to kill a few dozen Comanche, but when some of the Indians jettisoned their stolen gold bullion to make a faster escape, the Rangers stopped pursuing in order to divvy up the gold amongst themselves.

    The forerunner of civil forfeiture.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @The Alarmist

    That gold bullion was stolen drug money. The Rangers were obligated to confiscate it as evidence.

    "Send a smoke signal to our fort in 2 weeks with evidence proving it's yours."

  77. @Achmed E. Newman
    That's some fascinating history. I guess this sort of thing wouldn't get taught to the children, probably 50 years running now, as we can't have anyone going against the narrative of "White Man bad / Red man good". Things were indeed a lot more nuanced, a lot more complicated and not a matter of simply US v Indians.

    I've linked to them before, but here are the 3 Parts of the Peak Stupidity review of the great Sam Gwynne book Empire of the Summer Moon: Part 1 - - Part 2 - -Part 3.

    The HBD or more anti-HBD story behind the Comanches, as Mr. Gwynne discusses at the beginning of his book, is that before they had horses (coming from the Spanish via Mexico), "The People"* were a pathetic bunch, "indigenous" at that point, to the Wind River Range in Wyoming. Within a century or less they became the best horseman anyone had ever seen.

    That gets to this story of their looting of Linnville. Killing and torturing other peoples and stealing horses was not just war, but it was LIFE itself to the Comanche men. The women were beasts of burden with benefits basically.

    .

    * What "Comanche" meant in Comanche. No peace and perfect harmony among nations with this crowd...

    Replies: @John Henry, @OsMagyar, @Buroaker, @Achmed E. Newman, @Hypnotoad666, @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.

    “The People”* were a pathetic bunch, “indigenous” at that point, to the Wind River Range in Wyoming. Within a century or less they became the best horseman anyone had ever seen.

    The Sioux, another famous plains tribe, originally came from the eastern woodlands. One branch of that tribe, the Santee, lived in the woods of Minnesota as late as the 1860’s, when they were deported to a reservation in Nebraska for something or other. They were going to hang a shitload of them, but the Great Emancipator commuted most of their sentences.

    Prior to the introduction of the firearm and, especially, the horse, hardly any Indians lived in the high plains. They were too dry for farming and, while there were vast herds of bison, that resource could not be well exploited by unmounted braves with only arrows and lances.

    The horse and the gun changed all that: there was a “gold rush” of large numbers of mounted, armed Indians from the outskirts of the plains to pluck the low-hanging fruit of the then easily killed bison.

    The heyday of plains Indian culture lasted well less than a century.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.


    One branch of that tribe, the Santee, lived in the woods of Minnesota as late as the 1860’s, when they were deported to a reservation in Nebraska for something or other.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_War_of_1862

    The war lasted for five weeks and resulted in the deaths of hundreds of settlers.
  78. @Hypnotoad666
    @Achmed E. Newman


    The People”*

    * What “Comanche” meant in Comanche.
     

    It seems like every tribe's name for itself translates as "us" or "the people." Whereas their name for the next tribe over is usually "those bastards," or "the enemy." Of course we would often first learn about a tribe from its neighbors, so a lot of tribes are now named after their neighbor's perjorative.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Anonymous

    Conceptually, it was more like “the human beings” and “the other beings.”

    I remember asking a Georgian (the country) what they called their country since I only knew the anglicized “Georgia.” He looked at me puzzled and said, in English, “It’s ‘the Land.’”

    The People. The People’s Land. Our Land. This is what we want and feel in our bones, no matter how much we pretend otherwise. It’s why even Barack and Mish buy a 9BR mansion with 26 empty acres around it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    The People. The People’s Land. Our Land. This is what we want and feel in our bones, no matter how much we pretend otherwise.
     
    Do Jews feel it in their bones? What about the wandering Jew stereotype? How protective are they of the United States territory?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

  79. “We acknowledge that Victoria is situated in the traditional lands of the Comanche, who are its keepers in perpetuity.”

  80. @Hypnotoad666
    @Achmed E. Newman


    The People”*

    * What “Comanche” meant in Comanche.
     

    It seems like every tribe's name for itself translates as "us" or "the people." Whereas their name for the next tribe over is usually "those bastards," or "the enemy." Of course we would often first learn about a tribe from its neighbors, so a lot of tribes are now named after their neighbor's perjorative.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Anonymous

    Of course we would often first learn about a tribe from its neighbors, so a lot of tribes are now named after their neighbor’s perjorative.

    Such as?

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Anonymous



    Of course we would often first learn about a tribe from its neighbors, so a lot of tribes are now named after their neighbor’s pejorative.
     
    Such as?
     
    The Stinky Waters (Winipegs) and Snakes (Sioux).


    The best-known names for many Native American groups were bestowed by their rivals and, when translated into English, can be seen to be quite insulting. Although derogatory colloquialisms are typically avoided in legal and political contexts—one would hardly expect to find a treaty between France and England that referred, respectively, to the Frogs and the Roast Beefs—similarly offensive names were commonly used in colonial administrative documents.

    When the Ojibwa (Anishinaabe) and Fox (Meskwaki) were asked who lived to their west, French traders were told stories of the Winĭpig, or Winĭpyägohagi—a name that translates roughly to “Filthy (or Stinking) Waters.” . . . .

    Sometimes a name substitution is undesirable or difficult to effect. Such is the case for the dozens of legally recognized bands or tribes of the Sioux nation (see also Sidebar: The Difference Between a Tribe and a Band). Many members of these tribes and bands prefer the ethnonyms Lakota, Dakota, and Nakota (for the three dialects of their language), because Sioux is a derivation of Nadouessioux—meaning “Adder” or “Snake”; another name bestowed courtesy of traditional rivals.https://www.britannica.com/topic/Native-American-Self-Names-1369572
     
  81. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Hypnotoad666

    Conceptually, it was more like "the human beings" and "the other beings."

    I remember asking a Georgian (the country) what they called their country since I only knew the anglicized "Georgia." He looked at me puzzled and said, in English, "It's 'the Land.'"

    The People. The People's Land. Our Land. This is what we want and feel in our bones, no matter how much we pretend otherwise. It's why even Barack and Mish buy a 9BR mansion with 26 empty acres around it.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    The People. The People’s Land. Our Land. This is what we want and feel in our bones, no matter how much we pretend otherwise.

    Do Jews feel it in their bones? What about the wandering Jew stereotype? How protective are they of the United States territory?

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Anonymous

    Of course they do. They build little Zions wherever they go.

    That's the attitude of many US immigrants. They're not coming to make a better Here; they're coming to make a better There. If it's your Here, too bad and who cares.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  82. @Anonymous
    Slightly O.T.

    BLM - which, of course, was part founded by a Palestinian, has come out in full support of Hamas.

    Expect to see BLM quietly, but surely, wither away and slowly disappear from all public exposure, discourse and notice in the near future. Quite simply, the gatekeepers of the media will drop them like a hot potato and completely ignore them as if they do not exist.
    Remember, the only power BLM ever had was saturation coverage from a media agreeable with its agenda. Now its agenda is disagreeable, its oxygen will be swiftly cut off.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Danindc, @Prester John, @res, @Muggles, @Colin Wright

    ‘…Expect to see BLM quietly, but surely, wither away and slowly disappear from all public exposure, discourse and notice in the near future. Quite simply, the gatekeepers of the media will drop them like a hot potato and completely ignore them as if they do not exist.
    Remember, the only power BLM ever had was saturation coverage from a media agreeable with its agenda. Now its agenda is disagreeable, its oxygen will be swiftly cut off.’

    Inshallah. Every cloud has a silver lining.

    But actually…

    The Jewish-controlled media has been going absolutely beserk about Hamas’ attack — and in that context, it’s striking how little coverage the position of Black Lives Matter has received.

    Maybe they want to keep their black tool. I prefer to avoid explanations that imply a conscious decision — but this is noticeable.

  83. @Arclight
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I know Blood Meridian is supposed to be an excellent book, but after reading All the Pretty Horses and The Road I felt like I had enough of McCarthy. Undoubtedly a great writer but the books are just so dark it's not exactly what I want to spend an hour with before bed.

    Anyway, I agree on the comment about property and ownership, although the introduction of Euro diseases virtually ensured that even if it had been all love and flowers the native population was going to be dramatically reduced. It is noted that although it was observed along the coast that natives tended to die a lot more often from sickness than Europeans, unbeknownst to the settlers travel by natives between coastal locations to inland areas had already spread disease and depopulated a number of villages before any Europeans ever got there, although once they did they could tell there had once been a lot more people.

    To return to our present time, the issue in Israel is irreconcilable without one side or the other being totally subjugated or wiped out. Like Kashmir, Kosovo, Nagorno-Karabakh, there is too much convoluted history, honor, divergent cultures and previous blood having been spilt. I was very surprised to learn that given all that, the Israeli population is by policy almost totally disarmed, with most weapons kept in centralized depots that are not quickly accessible in emergencies like the present That seems to be an incredibly stupid practice given past experience. I am grateful we have the 2A and plan to further avail myself of the freedoms it provides in the very near future.

    Replies: @Corpse Tooth, @Anonymous, @Achmed E. Newman

    To return to our present time, the issue in Israel is irreconcilable without one side or the other being totally subjugated or wiped out.

    Or, the jews could grant the Gentiles equal rights. Duh. Same thing the jews demand for themselves and other minorities in the United States.

  84. @Muggles
    @Anonymous

    Along the lines of this story, a report says three "Squad" members (female congressmen, Woke Dems) have endorsed the Hamas attacks.

    Or more or less so, by condemning Israel. Two of those three are Somali Muslim imports, one of whom fake married her brother to get him in here.

    So the Comrades are being split by this recent event. Despite many of them being Jewish. Of course the Jews won't endorse Hamas outright, though some publicly back "Palestinians" in this.

    This recent Hamas raid is like a prison break writ large. Gaza is largely an Israeli prison for uncooperative Palestinians. Funded by Iran, Syria (a bit) and some Gulf Arab states and funders.

    To the degree the Comrades appear divided or perplexed here, this will weaken their ideological hold.

    Due to heavy Jewish influence/ownership/control over US news media, being pro Hamas won't fly. Also it seems to be a major political blunder and temporary Pyrrhic "victory" for them.

    Now Israel will starve them out and pound them with artillery and missiles. Perhaps raids to capture suspected leaders.

    Like most prison breaks, this will end badly for them.

    Israel pays a heavy price for running this prison. This is about land, not religion. Both Jews and Arabs are famous for being insane bargainers and crazy stubborn.

    Outsiders fund both sides and pay to watch. Innocents pay the price.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Israel pays a heavy price for running this prison.

    Americans are the ones who have borne most of the cost, in lives lost and in resources expended.

  85. @Anonymous
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    The People. The People’s Land. Our Land. This is what we want and feel in our bones, no matter how much we pretend otherwise.
     
    Do Jews feel it in their bones? What about the wandering Jew stereotype? How protective are they of the United States territory?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    Of course they do. They build little Zions wherever they go.

    That’s the attitude of many US immigrants. They’re not coming to make a better Here; they’re coming to make a better There. If it’s your Here, too bad and who cares.

    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    'Of course they do. They build little Zions wherever they go.

    That’s the attitude of many US immigrants. They’re not coming to make a better Here; they’re coming to make a better There. If it’s your Here, too bad and who cares.'
     

    Yeah -- but you could say the same about Mennonites and Mormons -- both of whom we have a fair number of around here.

    They're making their little Zions too. But they seem to take care not to stomp on anyone's toes in the process.

    Now Jews...well, that's a different story.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

  86. @Anonymous
    @Altai3

    Grover is the one of the pair to actually have a brain in his head.

    Replies: @Gordo

    Perhaps Epstein had a tape of Grover carrying out unspeakable acts?

    PS I’m only brave enough to name Grover as I’m pretty sure he can’t sue.

  87. OT: I’m not sure how you missed this Steve, but surely this deserves attention?

    How L.A.’s bird population is shaped by historic redlining and racist loan practices
    https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2023-10-11/historic-redlining-bird-biodiversity

    Dunno about the bird population but the bird liner population I would go along with.

  88. @deep anonymous
    @Dream

    In my lifetime (I'm mid 60s) the popular meanings of "liberal" and "conservative" have, shall we say, evolved. I think it safe to say that today's conservatives are worse than useless because they conserve the power base of the Left. I'm reminded of (I think) Dabney's comment that conservatives move within the shadow cast by the progressive Left. It's always the "conservative case for [fill in the latest abomination]."

    I remember in college reading Hayek's essay, "Why I Am Not A Conservative" and thinking my eyes had been opened, but unfortunately, today I also would have to explain why I am not a libertarian. If White people are going to survive, we need to develop a racial consciousness. Otherwise we will be killed off, it's that simple. That does not mean we have to hate other groups, just that we love our own extended family.

    Replies: @Catdog

    Listen to Rockwell’s “Why I am not a conservative”.

    • Replies: @deep anonymous
    @Catdog

    I will, thanks.

  89. @Kylie
    @Dream

    "Why are conservative Americans like this?"

    I don't consider Lindsey Graham a conservative.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @John Henry, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @Wilkey, @Anonymous, @Legba

    I don’t consider Lindsey Graham a conservative.

    And what about the people who keep electing him?

    Graham’s ravings are not some bizarre aberration.

  90. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Anonymous

    Of course they do. They build little Zions wherever they go.

    That's the attitude of many US immigrants. They're not coming to make a better Here; they're coming to make a better There. If it's your Here, too bad and who cares.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Of course they do. They build little Zions wherever they go.

    That’s the attitude of many US immigrants. They’re not coming to make a better Here; they’re coming to make a better There. If it’s your Here, too bad and who cares.’

    Yeah — but you could say the same about Mennonites and Mormons — both of whom we have a fair number of around here.

    They’re making their little Zions too. But they seem to take care not to stomp on anyone’s toes in the process.

    Now Jews…well, that’s a different story.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Colin Wright

    "Zionism" - a nation for every people and a country for every nation - seems like a good way to organize society.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  91. Anonymous[412] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666
    @Achmed E. Newman


    The biggest reason there was NEVER going to be some multicultural merged society of the White Man and Red Man was the understanding and lack thereof, of property rights, respectively.
     
    Exactly. The standard line is that whites "stole their land." But it's not like any Indian had a deed to it.

    And that's not treating Indians any different than whites. If you were a settler who bought some land to farm and some white guy showed up saying it was "his land" because he used to sometimes hunt there, you'd tell him to piss off. And if he didn't, there would probably be some violence eventually.

    Replies: @Prester John, @Erik L, @Anonymous

    Exactly. The standard line is that whites “stole their land.” But it’s not like any Indian had a deed to it.

    Oh, come on now. A deed to the land had meaning in our culture, not in theirs. And it’s not like it helped the Cherokee or the other Civilized Tribes, or even much smaller scale earlier examples, like the civilized, christianized Indian villages and families in the northeast.

    Of course Indians were crushed and cleared off the land, often in brutal ways. That was normal then both in their cultures, and in ours. Obsessing over the United States’ “original sin” or whatever they call it is for the ill-intentioned and the stupid. But trying to wiggle out of the truth of how the land was won and cleared is for the weak. Just own it.

    • Agree: William Badwhite
    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Anonymous


    But trying to wiggle out of the truth of how the land was won and cleared is for the weak. Just own it.
     
    No, I think you're wrong. The U.S. didn't steal Spanish land grants from the residents when we conquered California. As I noted in my original post, any white squatters were also liable to get "cleared" out of an area if they threatened the persons or property of settlers. (Heck, for that matter, look at how the residents drove the non-conforming white Mormon tribe out of Missouri and Illinois).

    If the Plains Indians had acquired legal title and were non-threatening farmers and ranchers like the whites, nobody would have "stolen" their land. (Well, this isn't 100% true as in 1830 they did force the property owning Indians off their land in Georgia -- but they did somewhat respect their property by giving them land of supposedly equal value in Oklahoma). Lots of Indians who lived adjacent to whites on the early frontier (especially East of the Mississippi) just acquired land and got acculturated and absorbed to American life over time.

    It's true that legal title -- as opposed to possession by right of conquest -- wasn't really a cultural thing for hunter-gatherer people. But that's my point. Property rights and rule of law were pretty important to early Americans and the idea that we just waged an unprovoked extermination and land theft campaign is not accurate.
  92. @Anonymous
    @Hypnotoad666


    Of course we would often first learn about a tribe from its neighbors, so a lot of tribes are now named after their neighbor’s perjorative.
     
    Such as?

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    Of course we would often first learn about a tribe from its neighbors, so a lot of tribes are now named after their neighbor’s pejorative.

    Such as?

    The Stinky Waters (Winipegs) and Snakes (Sioux).

    The best-known names for many Native American groups were bestowed by their rivals and, when translated into English, can be seen to be quite insulting. Although derogatory colloquialisms are typically avoided in legal and political contexts—one would hardly expect to find a treaty between France and England that referred, respectively, to the Frogs and the Roast Beefs—similarly offensive names were commonly used in colonial administrative documents.

    When the Ojibwa (Anishinaabe) and Fox (Meskwaki) were asked who lived to their west, French traders were told stories of the Winĭpig, or Winĭpyägohagi—a name that translates roughly to “Filthy (or Stinking) Waters.” . . . .

    Sometimes a name substitution is undesirable or difficult to effect. Such is the case for the dozens of legally recognized bands or tribes of the Sioux nation (see also Sidebar: The Difference Between a Tribe and a Band). Many members of these tribes and bands prefer the ethnonyms Lakota, Dakota, and Nakota (for the three dialects of their language), because Sioux is a derivation of Nadouessioux—meaning “Adder” or “Snake”; another name bestowed courtesy of traditional rivals.https://www.britannica.com/topic/Native-American-Self-Names-1369572

  93. @Catdog
    @deep anonymous

    Listen to Rockwell's "Why I am not a conservative".

    Replies: @deep anonymous

    I will, thanks.

  94. “This shocked the Comanches’ sense of morality.”

    Citation needed. What it shocked was their sense of thinking they were the biggest bully in the land, and that everyone should submit to their demands because of it. What the Comanche failed to realize is that they weren’t anymore; not by a long shot.

    “In the Indian wars, the Native Americans tended to be far more politically fractured, so it took an impressive leader to assemble that large of a force in one place.”

    Similar to how different lion prides are “politically fractured”. Different tribes had enough sentience to combine forces against a common enemy, but aside from that their understanding of “politics” was as primitive as the rest of their existence.

    “But that suggests how much Americans, north and south, feared the potential of the mounted warriors of the plains.”

    If by fear you mean caution, determination, and sensibility, then yes. If you mean quaking in their boots, then no.

    “They first attacked the inland town of Victoria about 125 miles southwest of Houston, killing a dozen locals. But the heavily armed Texian civilians fired out from inside their buildings and eventually the Comanche rode on to the busy port of Linnville, killing maybe another dozen civilians. ”

    The Great Raid supports the notion that Amerindians were largely clever opportunists, seeking weak targets and avoiding direct confrontation with equal forces. Attila and the Huns they definitely were not.

  95. @Anonymous
    @Hypnotoad666


    Exactly. The standard line is that whites “stole their land.” But it’s not like any Indian had a deed to it.
     
    Oh, come on now. A deed to the land had meaning in our culture, not in theirs. And it's not like it helped the Cherokee or the other Civilized Tribes, or even much smaller scale earlier examples, like the civilized, christianized Indian villages and families in the northeast.

    Of course Indians were crushed and cleared off the land, often in brutal ways. That was normal then both in their cultures, and in ours. Obsessing over the United States' "original sin" or whatever they call it is for the ill-intentioned and the stupid. But trying to wiggle out of the truth of how the land was won and cleared is for the weak. Just own it.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    But trying to wiggle out of the truth of how the land was won and cleared is for the weak. Just own it.

    No, I think you’re wrong. The U.S. didn’t steal Spanish land grants from the residents when we conquered California. As I noted in my original post, any white squatters were also liable to get “cleared” out of an area if they threatened the persons or property of settlers. (Heck, for that matter, look at how the residents drove the non-conforming white Mormon tribe out of Missouri and Illinois).

    If the Plains Indians had acquired legal title and were non-threatening farmers and ranchers like the whites, nobody would have “stolen” their land. (Well, this isn’t 100% true as in 1830 they did force the property owning Indians off their land in Georgia — but they did somewhat respect their property by giving them land of supposedly equal value in Oklahoma). Lots of Indians who lived adjacent to whites on the early frontier (especially East of the Mississippi) just acquired land and got acculturated and absorbed to American life over time.

    It’s true that legal title — as opposed to possession by right of conquest — wasn’t really a cultural thing for hunter-gatherer people. But that’s my point. Property rights and rule of law were pretty important to early Americans and the idea that we just waged an unprovoked extermination and land theft campaign is not accurate.

  96. @Kylie
    @Dream

    "Why are conservative Americans like this?"

    I don't consider Lindsey Graham a conservative.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @John Henry, @Bard of Bumperstickers, @Wilkey, @Anonymous, @Legba

    He wears a garter belt & silk stockings under the suit, just like the rest of them.

  97. @Dream
    Why are conservative Americans like this?

    https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1711928827318866331?t=-9syu4rm4zpRhoWMOFHxkw&s=19

    Replies: @Kylie, @Anon, @deep anonymous, @JosephD, @Director95, @anonymouseperson, @James Braxton, @Dr. X

    “We’re in a religious war”

    Who’s “we,” Kemosabe?

  98. @Corpse Tooth
    @Harry Baldwin

    Read Blood Meridian first. Top tier fiction provides insights and nuances that non-fiction cannot provide due to its constraints (facts). A family member of mine read Gwynne's book and deemed it excellent. He is now dead.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    A family member of mine read Gwynne’s book and deemed it excellent. He is now dead.

    I know how that feels. My sister-in-law died after reading the last Harry Potter book.

  99. Anonymous[132] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    @Dream

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12617621/Israeli-official-calls-Doomsday-missile-shakes-Middle-East-used-response-Hamas-attacks-despite-nation-never-openly-admitting-having-nuclear-weapons.html

    Israeli official calls for 'Doomsday' missile that 'shakes the Middle East' to be used in response to Hamas attacks - despite the nation never openly admitting to having nuclear weapons

    That's why hysterical pre-menopausal women should be better kept away in the time of crisis....

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Speaking of times of crisis, thoughts on your beloved party’s asylum seeker housing policies bringing a bedbug infestation to Croatia? For once at the forefront of European trends!

    Yes, yes, we’re all connected, it would’ve happened sooner or later… Sure. But that wasn’t good enough for the beloved party. Delaying this for as long as possible, being prepared and actively practicing preventative measures just wasn’t an option.

    Instead, asylum seekers and all sorts of illegals are shitting in the streets and wallowing in dirt in apartments all over the country. Allowed in and housed, just like that, and inflicting disease and infestation on their helpless Croatian neighbors. As if the fear they’ve already brought to these communities wasn’t bad enough.

    I’m sure some think it’s all worth it. Wouldn’t want to fall behind the West! Move out of the way, France! Croatia will show you infestation!

    Remember the scabies they brought to Bosnia a while ago? That was back when Croatia was still pretending that it had a border and that old, boring public health concerns mattered. Now that that’s all out of the window at a time when a replay of 2015 is loading, I’m sure there’s much excitement to look forward to.

    And if that’s not enough, much as I empathize with their situation, most among the flood of exotic legal foreign workers (many of whom work with food!) aren’t actually that much more hygienic.

    The beloved ruling party, of course, has never been stronger. Demoralizing. I wish there was a place one could go and actually escape. But, sooner or later, this just follows you anywhere.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Anonymous


    Speaking of times of crisis, thoughts on your beloved party’s asylum seeker housing policies bringing a bedbug infestation to Croatia? For once at the forefront of European trends!
     
    There will be blood.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  100. @Anonymous
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Speaking of times of crisis, thoughts on your beloved party's asylum seeker housing policies bringing a bedbug infestation to Croatia? For once at the forefront of European trends!

    Yes, yes, we're all connected, it would've happened sooner or later... Sure. But that wasn't good enough for the beloved party. Delaying this for as long as possible, being prepared and actively practicing preventative measures just wasn't an option.

    Instead, asylum seekers and all sorts of illegals are shitting in the streets and wallowing in dirt in apartments all over the country. Allowed in and housed, just like that, and inflicting disease and infestation on their helpless Croatian neighbors. As if the fear they've already brought to these communities wasn't bad enough.

    I'm sure some think it's all worth it. Wouldn't want to fall behind the West! Move out of the way, France! Croatia will show you infestation!

    Remember the scabies they brought to Bosnia a while ago? That was back when Croatia was still pretending that it had a border and that old, boring public health concerns mattered. Now that that's all out of the window at a time when a replay of 2015 is loading, I'm sure there's much excitement to look forward to.

    And if that's not enough, much as I empathize with their situation, most among the flood of exotic legal foreign workers (many of whom work with food!) aren't actually that much more hygienic.

    The beloved ruling party, of course, has never been stronger. Demoralizing. I wish there was a place one could go and actually escape. But, sooner or later, this just follows you anywhere.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Speaking of times of crisis, thoughts on your beloved party’s asylum seeker housing policies bringing a bedbug infestation to Croatia? For once at the forefront of European trends!

    There will be blood.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Bardon Kaldian


    There will be blood.
     
    I don't know.

    I'm sure plenty of Croatian blood will be spilt at the altar of Western modernity, but not too sure that Croatians will put up much of a defense. Young people seem lost. By the time denial becomes impossible, I'm afraid everyone will just shrug and quietly accept our fate. Already a few of the people I've discussed it with have reluctantly reconciled themselves to it.

    The people at the root of this story are apparently Afghans who arrived two years ago. They've stayed, instead of just running away chasing the more generous benefits of Western Europe, as so many have hoped they would. Perhaps it's time to face reality and start seriously worrying. At this point, even panic might be an appropriate response.

    It might be silly, as I've already become used to migrants shitting all over the place, breaking and entering (and smearing shit all over the houses in question), desecrating graveyards, shooting at border police, scaring the native population and limiting its movement... But for some reason this bedbug story made my blood boil.

    It's supposed to be these people's country, supposedly run for their benefit. Now even their homes are ruined (with so many others to follow), and there's absolutely nothing they could have done to prevent it.

    The trouble is, I'll get used to this, too, at some point. We all will.

  101. @Steve Sailer
    @Cutter

    No.

    Replies: @cool daddy jimbo, @Cutter, @J.Ross, @Clifford Brown, @Paul Rise

    I immediately thought of Blood Meridian and Empire of the Summer Moon if you are interested in Comanche raids. The women taken way by motorcycling raiders reminded me of The Searchers.

    • Agree: Kylie
  102. @Tex
    In those days living in Texas was pretty much warfare all the time. Battle with Indians, outlaws, and feuds were standard. That's what made Texas's larger-than-life reputation for toughness.

    Texas isn't lost yet, but it will have to recover that spirit if it is to continue as a white man's country.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    If they have one more fight in them, it should be with the Feds. The Feds have been purposely obstructing and derailing Texas efforts to control parts of their border. These Potomac Regime minions must be arrested – that’s the first, step.

  103. @Arclight
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I know Blood Meridian is supposed to be an excellent book, but after reading All the Pretty Horses and The Road I felt like I had enough of McCarthy. Undoubtedly a great writer but the books are just so dark it's not exactly what I want to spend an hour with before bed.

    Anyway, I agree on the comment about property and ownership, although the introduction of Euro diseases virtually ensured that even if it had been all love and flowers the native population was going to be dramatically reduced. It is noted that although it was observed along the coast that natives tended to die a lot more often from sickness than Europeans, unbeknownst to the settlers travel by natives between coastal locations to inland areas had already spread disease and depopulated a number of villages before any Europeans ever got there, although once they did they could tell there had once been a lot more people.

    To return to our present time, the issue in Israel is irreconcilable without one side or the other being totally subjugated or wiped out. Like Kashmir, Kosovo, Nagorno-Karabakh, there is too much convoluted history, honor, divergent cultures and previous blood having been spilt. I was very surprised to learn that given all that, the Israeli population is by policy almost totally disarmed, with most weapons kept in centralized depots that are not quickly accessible in emergencies like the present That seems to be an incredibly stupid practice given past experience. I am grateful we have the 2A and plan to further avail myself of the freedoms it provides in the very near future.

    Replies: @Corpse Tooth, @Anonymous, @Achmed E. Newman

    All the Pretty Horses and The Road I felt like I had enough of McCarthy. Undoubtedly a great writer but the books are just so dark it’s not exactly what I want to spend an hour with before bed.

    Of those 2, I’ve only seen The Road as a movie. Yes, not very optimistic – a good prepper lesson though.

    Agreed about the weapons too, Arclight. That reminds me of Fort Hood, Texas, or whatever they’re calling it now.

    I haven’t checked ammo prices in at least a year. You’re never stocked up enough, if nothing else, for inflation.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
    • Replies: @FPD72
    @Achmed E. Newman


    That reminds me of Fort Hood, Texas, or whatever they’re calling it now.
     
    It’s called Fort Cavazos, in honor of the late four star general Richard Cavazos. He was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross for combat action in both Korea and Viet Nam, one Silver Star, five Bronze Stars, and a Purple Heart, among his many awards. He was the first Hispanic four star general, long before Affirmative Action was a thing in the military.

    His father was a foreman on the King Ranch. He and his two brothers were all graduates of Texas Tech. His brother Bobby was a second team All-American football player in 1953. His other brother, Lauren, was the first Hispanic cabinet member, serving in the Bush 1 administration. He was a major proponent of parental school choice programs.

    A distinguished family from humble roots. I’m not a fan of renaming military installations but have no quarrel with the selection of General Cavazos since renaming was a done deal.
    , @Adam Smith
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I recently paid $16 a box for 9mm at the local sporting goods store.
    Still can't find .410 handgun ammo anywhere.

    Replies: @70sTarheel

  104. @Director95
    @Dream

    Lindsey is no conservative. He is 100% all in on war. His mantra - Your tax money goes to the war machine. How in the fvck is that conservative. He conserves nothing.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Support for the military and most of its adventures by Conservatives is an artifact of the Cold War, Director. Conservatives wanted to conserve a world not enveloped by Communism. After it was won, by a whole lot of Conservatives, there was no need for any of this. Real Conservatives understand that.

    I should say that they not only understand that but aren’t beholden to Neocon donors and pressure and their own avarice. That’s been kind of rare around Washington, FS.

  105. @Wilkey
    @Kylie

    Lindsey is the dork who’s trying to make friends with the popular kid. The dork thinks he’s making progress, while the popular kid will just ignore him or mock him when he’s no longer useful.

    I have nothing against Israel or its survival. I just don’t understand why so many non-Jewish Americans are so damn obsessed with it, even as they embrace the overrunning of every other Western country by Third World invaders.

    Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians will probably end up leaving Gaza, and guess where they’ll want to go? Thousands of them will be coming to a neighborhood near you.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Anon, @Jack Armstrong

    O/T: From the Harvard student newspaper.

    Former Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao Calls for National Asian American Museum at Harvard IOP Forum

    Former U.S. Secretary of Transportation Elaine L. Chao called for a National Museum of Asian Pacific American History and Culture during a Harvard Institute of Politics forum Tuesday, arguing that such a museum would help combat the rise in anti-Asian hate.

    During the forum Tuesday — moderated by Harvard Business School senior lecturer John D. Macomber — Chao called for the museum to be built along Washington’s National Mall, where many of the country’s Smithsonian Museums are located.

    “If a national museum were to be established that would talk about the history and culture of Asians in America and Asian Americans that would develop or cultivate a greater tolerance, and a greater understanding and appreciation,” said Chao, the first Asian American woman to serve in the U.S. Cabinet.

    It’s got to be on the National Mall because respect is very important,” she added.

    Chao said the “onslaught of violence” against Asian Americans linked to the “spillover” of poor U.S.-China relations has underscored the importance of acknowledging and celebrating Asian Americans’ contributions to American history.

    “This community before has been relatively reserved, quiet, and now understands the importance of speaking up, finding their voice, and making known their concerns,” Chao said.

    “This should be celebrated,” she added.

    Chao — the 12-year cabinet veteran — also discussed the “incredible opportunities” artificial intelligence can provide to expand access to knowledge across class, educational background, and age. She praised innovation as “a huge part of who we are” as Americans.

    “I think AI has a better potential to help even the playing field of those with different skill sets, different talents,” she said.

    “A person who may not have been educated on a particular topic can speak with ease at a push of a button just by asking ChatGPT,” Chao added.

    While lauding the educational benefits of AI, Chao — who is married to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell — said she was concerned that large sectors of the labor force may be eliminated by developing technology, calling for government intervention.

    “They are basically competing with a person who has spent their whole life studying a particular topic,” Chao said. “And so what does that mean to workers? Is that a plus? Is that a negative?”

    “The government has a really big responsibility to try and ease that adjustment,” she added.

    Chao, a Taiwanese immigrant, also discussed her family heritage and pursuit of the American dream, detailing her 37-day journey across the Pacific Ocean to New York at the age of eight with her mother and six sisters — one of whom was in attendance at Tuesday’s forum.

    “My parents have a great deal of courage because they came to America armed only with their dreams and their belief in this country,” Chao said. “They knew that this country would give their daughters so much more opportunity, yet they didn’t know what these opportunities were.”

    Chao recalled as a child being “so confused” by American cultural traditions like hamburgers, pizza, and children dressing as monsters “sticking these huge empty bags in our faces chanting this indecipherable chant”— which her family later realized was their first experience with Halloween trick-or-treating.

    “The next year, we learned that it was a free way to get free candy, and we became the best trick-or-treaters in the neighborhood,” Chao joked.

    —Staff writer Thomas J. Mete can be reached at [email protected]. Follow him on X @thomasjmete.

  106. @The Alarmist

    The Rangers managed to kill a few dozen Comanche, but when some of the Indians jettisoned their stolen gold bullion to make a faster escape, the Rangers stopped pursuing in order to divvy up the gold amongst themselves.
     
    The forerunner of civil forfeiture.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    That gold bullion was stolen drug money. The Rangers were obligated to confiscate it as evidence.

    “Send a smoke signal to our fort in 2 weeks with evidence proving it’s yours.”

  107. @Colin Wright
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    'Of course they do. They build little Zions wherever they go.

    That’s the attitude of many US immigrants. They’re not coming to make a better Here; they’re coming to make a better There. If it’s your Here, too bad and who cares.'
     

    Yeah -- but you could say the same about Mennonites and Mormons -- both of whom we have a fair number of around here.

    They're making their little Zions too. But they seem to take care not to stomp on anyone's toes in the process.

    Now Jews...well, that's a different story.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    “Zionism” – a nation for every people and a country for every nation – seems like a good way to organize society.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    “”Zionism” – a nation for every people and a country for every nation – seems like a good way to organize society.”

    We have that already. See: United Stares.

  108. a little different than the “disease killed them all, white guys actually didn’t do much” narrative that you get from many sources these days.

    back in reality, they put up a hell of a fight in North American and it took over 300 years of battles to push them out of the way.

    what i’ve wondered was whether the ‘they killed all the buffalo’ thing was about settlers just being stupid or was that deliberate to take away the locals food supply.

  109. @Twinkie

    But that suggests how much Americans, north and south, feared the potential of the mounted warriors of the plains.
     
    Much of human history was a story of conflict between pastoralists and agriculturalists, with the former usually beating the latter and assuming the elite stratum among the latter, only for the pattern to repeat later with yet other pastoralists. This went on for centuries until the inventions (e.g. gunpowder) and the organizations (levee en masse) of the agriculturalists finally overtook the fighting prowess and the mobility of the pastoralists and decisively settled the score once and for all.

    Replies: @Catdog, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Injuns only got horses since European arrival; however, their closest cousins across the Bering Strait, hunter-gatherer Chukchis, were the only Eurasian people that Russians couldn’t subdue at peak power.

    On 12 March 1747, a party of 500 Chukchi warriors raided the Russian stockade of Anadyrsk.[3] Pavlutsky’s regiment of 131 men, consisting of 96 Cossacks and 35 Koryak allies, set off in pursuit, catching up with the Chuchki near the settlement of Markovo.[3] Pavlutsky ordered an attack despite lacking reinforcements, and his outnumbered regiment was defeated in a battle reminiscent of the Battle of the Little Bighorn.[3] Pavlutsky, wearing iron chain mail armor, was able to escape the field unhurt but was surrounded on a small nearby hill (now called Major’s Hill) and killed.[2] His head was reportedly cut off and kept by the Chukchi for years afterward.[2]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Pavlutsky

    Agriculturalist armies require heavy taxes to maintain, and often bureacratization, at the cost of élan, otherwise Prigozhins would occur.

    Responding to you here about light calvary:
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/has-mit-finally-figured-out-why-roman-concrete-was-so-great/#comment-5758264

    1. In set-piece mêlée, European heavy cavalry and infantry can make mincemeat of Mongol light cavalry. But light cavalry can run-and-shoot and escape from set-piece battles, and re-seize the strategic initiative

    2. East Asian agriculturalist armies don’t utilize heavy armor, but in set-piece battles can also defeat Mongol-Manchu light cavalry using combination of fortification, pikemen and archers, as you wrote. In addition, East Asians began using crossbows before anyone else.

    3. But, Chinese can only thoroughly defeat Mongols with its own light cavalry, which is expensive and can only be led by the most vigorous emperors, Wudi, Taizong, Hongwu, Yongle.

    Ming Chinese razed the ancient Mongol palace, but only by horse archer light calvary led by Hongwu,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karakorum

    The future I think is still light calvary, in the form of AI-driven tanks or AI-driven Fallschirmjäger.

  110. @Yancey Ward
    When did "Texians" replace "Texans"? Or was it the other way around?

    Replies: @res, @Mike Tre

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texians

    Texians were Anglo-American residents of Mexican Texas and, later, the Republic of Texas. Today, the term is used to identify early settlers of Texas, especially those who supported the Texas Revolution. Mexican settlers of that era are referred to as Tejanos, and residents of modern Texas are known as Texans.

    More at the link.

    • Replies: @Yancey Ward
    @res

    Thanks, Res.

  111. @AndrewR
    @Dream

    White Americans can be as genocidal as they want as long as the targets are Palestinians or fellow white Americans (at least the "racist" ones)

    Replies: @HammerJack

  112. @Yancey Ward
    When did "Texians" replace "Texans"? Or was it the other way around?

    Replies: @res, @Mike Tre

    This reminds me of people who always used to say Key-ev, then started saying Keev to be fashionable.

  113. @JosephD
    @Dream


    Why are conservative Americans like this?
     
    I do not like the values most Jewish politicians propose for the US. I do not like the hypocrisy of espousing policies for the US they would never support for Israel. Actually, "I do not like" is far too mild of language.

    That said, the lines between civilization and barbarism in the conflict with Israel are pretty clear. It may be cliche to say that if the Muslims in the area disarmed and called for peace, a year later there would be fixed lines, a Palestinian state, and peace. If the Israelis disarmed and called for peace, a year later all the Jews still in the area would be dead. That it is cliche makes it no less true. The Israelis are not angels; however, their opponents are barbarians.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    It may be cliche to say that if the Muslims in the area disarmed and called for peace, a year later there would be fixed lines, a Palestinian state, and peace.

    Yeah, by and large the Palestinians have tried that time after time, and the result has always been dispossession, hideous oppression, torture, and progressive erasure. Take a look at an honest map of the West Bank some time. This is what gives rise to more desperate measures now and then.

  114. Wow.
    That was my first thought after they said the Israeli’s
    were not armed.
    I thought about the Texans and The early Texas Rangers during the Great Comanche Raid.
    Never give up your guns.

  115. The cannabalistic Caribs were reputed to rape captive Arawaks and other captive women. They ate the babies produced from the rapes.
    The Comanches fought a long war with the Apaches. They fought another tribe known for cannibalism and slaughtered a number of the cannibals when they caught up to the cannibals after a raid and found Comanche body parts in the campfire of the cannibals.

  116. One lesson regarding the current situation in the Middle East is that if you afford your enemies some autonomy and there is peace, it means they are stockpiling drones and missiles for an overwhelming strike. Does this generalize to bigger enemies such A2 and X? I hope there are other lessons.

    There is no longer a need to go full Tamerlane on anyone, warriors don’t matter, just control their access to technology. Future is looking impotent and boring, with rage or not.

  117. @Bragadocious
    @Achmed E. Newman

    This is a good thing (in part). Now, when Zionists go to Times Square to wave flags and chant racist crap, there's significant pushback by real live Arabs with real flags. That didn't happen back in the 1980s when Zionist Jews had complete control of the media, academia and the public square. Back then, the only critics of Zionism were on the nativist Right, and Jews could wave them off as pitiful irrelevant anti-Semites. They can't do that with the new left--they've even (apparently) lost Harvard University!

    Obviously, these new arrivals to America could present other, more kinetic problems in the future, but from a narrative control standpoint, it's pretty cool that they're here.

    Replies: @Renard

    They can’t do that with the new left–they’ve even (apparently) lost Harvard University!

    Installing Harvard’s first black woman president might not turn out to be the genius stroke they were contemplating.

  118. @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “The People”* were a pathetic bunch, “indigenous” at that point, to the Wind River Range in Wyoming. Within a century or less they became the best horseman anyone had ever seen.

    The Sioux, another famous plains tribe, originally came from the eastern woodlands. One branch of that tribe, the Santee, lived in the woods of Minnesota as late as the 1860's, when they were deported to a reservation in Nebraska for something or other. They were going to hang a shitload of them, but the Great Emancipator commuted most of their sentences.

    Prior to the introduction of the firearm and, especially, the horse, hardly any Indians lived in the high plains. They were too dry for farming and, while there were vast herds of bison, that resource could not be well exploited by unmounted braves with only arrows and lances.

    The horse and the gun changed all that: there was a "gold rush" of large numbers of mounted, armed Indians from the outskirts of the plains to pluck the low-hanging fruit of the then easily killed bison.

    The heyday of plains Indian culture lasted well less than a century.

    Replies: @duncsbaby

    One branch of that tribe, the Santee, lived in the woods of Minnesota as late as the 1860’s, when they were deported to a reservation in Nebraska for something or other.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_War_of_1862

    The war lasted for five weeks and resulted in the deaths of hundreds of settlers.

  119. @J.Ross
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I hate Steve Inskeep for many logical reasons (he once argued that Hungarians were being unreasonable to worry about the flood of criminal aliens pouring over their borders because, after all, these criminals apparently had a different ultimate goal than the nation they were then attacking) but he has impressed the Iron Man Halloween mask off of comic book enthisiast and sometime Constitutional law professor Hugh Hewitt with his new book about Lincoln, Differ We Must, in part thanks to an incredible meeting nobody ever heard of, and which, given its politics may well be a movie before Steven "Rocky Road" Spielberg goes to the luxury shotgun shop in the sky. The meeting:
    >Abraham has his hands full with the War of His Own Aggression
    >But America's great Western afterthought is making noise
    >Can't let settler-Indian fights spill over and mess up messing up the South
    >Depicted Lincoln for these reasons, at a special meeting of Indian chiefs at the White House, the White Man's ways as beneficial to those Indians willing to give them a try
    >Eschew violence with the settlers and prospecters, therefore, he asked
    >Fatidifically replied without difficulty Cheyenne chief Lean Bear, "it's not us, it's you -- tell the white settlers what you're telling us"
    >Ghoulishly, the years shortly following saw the most grisly slaughters of Indians in the West
    >Harborage was denied to the worst Western-posted American soldiers -- they were investigated and executed (in the 19th century) -- because their recourse to reckless slaughter shocked people even then
    >Included among the dead were three of the chiefs who had been at that summit (and posed for a photograph in the White House greenhouse), among them Lean Bear

    Replies: @mike99588

    it became a techno slaughter – centerfire cartridges with multishot Winchesters, Colts, Remingtons etc became affordable and reliable after the Civil War ….

    Before Civil War, rapid fire was expensive and less reliable – rimfire rifles and cap and ball, paper cartridge hand guns

  120. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Arclight


    All the Pretty Horses and The Road I felt like I had enough of McCarthy. Undoubtedly a great writer but the books are just so dark it’s not exactly what I want to spend an hour with before bed.
     
    Of those 2, I've only seen The Road as a movie. Yes, not very optimistic - a good prepper lesson though.

    Agreed about the weapons too, Arclight. That reminds me of Fort Hood, Texas, or whatever they're calling it now.

    I haven't checked ammo prices in at least a year. You're never stocked up enough, if nothing else, for inflation.

    Replies: @FPD72, @Adam Smith

    That reminds me of Fort Hood, Texas, or whatever they’re calling it now.

    It’s called Fort Cavazos, in honor of the late four star general Richard Cavazos. He was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross for combat action in both Korea and Viet Nam, one Silver Star, five Bronze Stars, and a Purple Heart, among his many awards. He was the first Hispanic four star general, long before Affirmative Action was a thing in the military.

    His father was a foreman on the King Ranch. He and his two brothers were all graduates of Texas Tech. His brother Bobby was a second team All-American football player in 1953. His other brother, Lauren, was the first Hispanic cabinet member, serving in the Bush 1 administration. He was a major proponent of parental school choice programs.

    A distinguished family from humble roots. I’m not a fan of renaming military installations but have no quarrel with the selection of General Cavazos since renaming was a done deal.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  121. @cool daddy jimbo
    @Steve Sailer

    "Empire of the Summer Moon" is also really good.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Two or three times at the book store in the last few years I’ve picked up “Empire of the Summer Moon” only to have dropped it off just before getting to the cash register.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve, you a fan of audible books?

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer

    Third time's a charm.

    , @Paul Rise
    @Steve Sailer

    It's a fun read but check out Hamalainen's book about the Comanche if you want the real story.

    The Comanancheria is a very understudied and important part of North American history.

  122. @Steve Sailer
    @cool daddy jimbo

    Two or three times at the book store in the last few years I've picked up "Empire of the Summer Moon" only to have dropped it off just before getting to the cash register.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Achmed E. Newman, @Paul Rise

    Steve, you a fan of audible books?

  123. @Colin Wright
    An oft-overlooked aspect of the Council House Fight: while the Texan men were meeting the Comanche chiefs inside, their women discovered the white girl -- horribly mutilated if I recall aright -- among the party of Indians remaining outside.

    They got to talking, and the girl related all that had been done to her. The account spread among the Texans...and, well, people got upset.

    ...or so I've read.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    They could not help noticing, though, that the Indians had brought only one captive with them. This was Matilda Lockhart, the same girl whose father had called to her during Colonel Moore’s fight on the San Saba a year before. She had been taken in a raid in 1838 along with her younger sister, during which other family members had been killed. She was fifteen, and her appearance in the plaza in San Antonio shocked the people who saw her. As one observer—Mary Maverick, wife of a prominent local merchant—put it, Matilda’s “head, face and arms were full of bruises, and sores, and her nose was actually burnt off to the bone—all the fleshy end gone with a great scab formed on the end of the bone. Both nostrils were wide open and denuded of flesh.”[27] She said she had been tortured by the Comanche women. It was not just her face that had been disfigured. Her entire body bore scars from fire. In private Matilda informed the white women that what she had suffered was even worse than that. She had been “utterly degraded,” she said, using the code word for rape, “and could not hold her head up again.”

    The Comanches were completely oblivious to the effect this had on the Texans. Many of the latter were familiar with the tortures practiced by the eastern tribes such as the Choctaws and Cherokees, which included the use of fire. But it was almost always practiced on men. Those tribes rarely abducted, raped, and tortured white women, as the plains tribes did.[28] Even to people accustomed to Indian violence, the sight of Matilda came as a shock. As if to make things worse, Matilda was an intelligent, perceptive girl who had learned the Comanche language quickly and thus knew that there were other captives in Indian camps. She estimated fifteen. She told the Texans about these captives.

    This was all prelude to the meeting, which took place in a one-story courthouse that would go down in history as the Council House. …

    [27] Mary Maverick, Memoirs of Mary Maverick, p. 31.
    [28] Fehrenbach, The Comanches, p. 326.

    Empire of the Summer Moon, ch. 6

    Perhaps this is “oft-overlooked”, but it was one of the most notable parts of the book in my recollection, along with Cynthia Ann Parker’s obvious Stockholm syndrome, which Gwynne absurdly tries to pass off as female empowerment.

    • Replies: @rebel yell
    @Almost Missouri

    I remember this passage from Empire of the Summer Moon. When the fight at the Council House is told by Dee Brown in "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee", or told by someone like Howard Zinn, they only report that the whites violated a flag of truce and murdered the Indians. They don't mention the severe torture of the girl that so enraged the Texans. Trading for a prisoner under a flag of truce is one thing, but when the kidnappers turn out to be worse than Ted Bundy, who cares about a truce?
    On Cynthia Ann Parker, I don't know if I would describe her loyalty to the Comanches as Stockholm Syndrome. She was captured as a very young girl and adopted and raised by the tribe. She barely remembered the English language. She had married and raised a son with the Indians. Coming of age among the Comanche had made her a Comanche. After she was re-captured and returned to her Texan family she was miserable and lost for the rest of her life. Bad as the Comanches were she would have been better off at that point to just stay with them.

    , @obwandiyag
    @Almost Missouri

    Never read Borges, I guess. Try the Story of the Warrior and the Captive.

  124. @Steve Sailer
    @cool daddy jimbo

    Two or three times at the book store in the last few years I've picked up "Empire of the Summer Moon" only to have dropped it off just before getting to the cash register.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Achmed E. Newman, @Paul Rise

    Third time’s a charm.

  125. @Steve Sailer
    @Cutter

    No.

    Replies: @cool daddy jimbo, @Cutter, @J.Ross, @Clifford Brown, @Paul Rise

    Mr. Sailer there are pros and cons to this great American novel, but a “story in a story” that is told to the protagonist about how the infamous Judge assists the band of desperados when they find themselves without gunpowder in rough country is one of the great sequences in 20th century American literature. I read it several times a year. McCarthy at his best has no rival.

    Real fans also know the sequence when the Kid finds the mummy is the heart of the book. I still ponder the meaning of it, which is made no clearer even when you realize who or what the mummy is.

  126. @Steve Sailer
    @cool daddy jimbo

    Two or three times at the book store in the last few years I've picked up "Empire of the Summer Moon" only to have dropped it off just before getting to the cash register.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Achmed E. Newman, @Paul Rise

    It’s a fun read but check out Hamalainen’s book about the Comanche if you want the real story.

    The Comanancheria is a very understudied and important part of North American history.

  127. @res
    @Yancey Ward

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texians


    Texians were Anglo-American residents of Mexican Texas and, later, the Republic of Texas. Today, the term is used to identify early settlers of Texas, especially those who supported the Texas Revolution. Mexican settlers of that era are referred to as Tejanos, and residents of modern Texas are known as Texans.
     
    More at the link.

    Replies: @Yancey Ward

    Thanks, Res.

  128. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Arclight


    All the Pretty Horses and The Road I felt like I had enough of McCarthy. Undoubtedly a great writer but the books are just so dark it’s not exactly what I want to spend an hour with before bed.
     
    Of those 2, I've only seen The Road as a movie. Yes, not very optimistic - a good prepper lesson though.

    Agreed about the weapons too, Arclight. That reminds me of Fort Hood, Texas, or whatever they're calling it now.

    I haven't checked ammo prices in at least a year. You're never stocked up enough, if nothing else, for inflation.

    Replies: @FPD72, @Adam Smith

    I recently paid $16 a box for 9mm at the local sporting goods store.
    Still can’t find .410 handgun ammo anywhere.

    • Replies: @70sTarheel
    @Adam Smith

    A lot of people bought the Taurus Judge.

    Replies: @Adam Smith

  129. @Almost Missouri
    @Colin Wright


    They could not help noticing, though, that the Indians had brought only one captive with them. This was Matilda Lockhart, the same girl whose father had called to her during Colonel Moore’s fight on the San Saba a year before. She had been taken in a raid in 1838 along with her younger sister, during which other family members had been killed. She was fifteen, and her appearance in the plaza in San Antonio shocked the people who saw her. As one observer—Mary Maverick, wife of a prominent local merchant—put it, Matilda’s “head, face and arms were full of bruises, and sores, and her nose was actually burnt off to the bone—all the fleshy end gone with a great scab formed on the end of the bone. Both nostrils were wide open and denuded of flesh.”[27] She said she had been tortured by the Comanche women. It was not just her face that had been disfigured. Her entire body bore scars from fire. In private Matilda informed the white women that what she had suffered was even worse than that. She had been “utterly degraded,” she said, using the code word for rape, “and could not hold her head up again.”

    The Comanches were completely oblivious to the effect this had on the Texans. Many of the latter were familiar with the tortures practiced by the eastern tribes such as the Choctaws and Cherokees, which included the use of fire. But it was almost always practiced on men. Those tribes rarely abducted, raped, and tortured white women, as the plains tribes did.[28] Even to people accustomed to Indian violence, the sight of Matilda came as a shock. As if to make things worse, Matilda was an intelligent, perceptive girl who had learned the Comanche language quickly and thus knew that there were other captives in Indian camps. She estimated fifteen. She told the Texans about these captives.

    This was all prelude to the meeting, which took place in a one-story courthouse that would go down in history as the Council House. ...

    [27] Mary Maverick, Memoirs of Mary Maverick, p. 31.
    [28] Fehrenbach, The Comanches, p. 326.

     

    Empire of the Summer Moon, ch. 6

    Perhaps this is "oft-overlooked", but it was one of the most notable parts of the book in my recollection, along with Cynthia Ann Parker's obvious Stockholm syndrome, which Gwynne absurdly tries to pass off as female empowerment.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @obwandiyag

    I remember this passage from Empire of the Summer Moon. When the fight at the Council House is told by Dee Brown in “Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee”, or told by someone like Howard Zinn, they only report that the whites violated a flag of truce and murdered the Indians. They don’t mention the severe torture of the girl that so enraged the Texans. Trading for a prisoner under a flag of truce is one thing, but when the kidnappers turn out to be worse than Ted Bundy, who cares about a truce?
    On Cynthia Ann Parker, I don’t know if I would describe her loyalty to the Comanches as Stockholm Syndrome. She was captured as a very young girl and adopted and raised by the tribe. She barely remembered the English language. She had married and raised a son with the Indians. Coming of age among the Comanche had made her a Comanche. After she was re-captured and returned to her Texan family she was miserable and lost for the rest of her life. Bad as the Comanches were she would have been better off at that point to just stay with them.

  130. @Adam Smith
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I recently paid $16 a box for 9mm at the local sporting goods store.
    Still can't find .410 handgun ammo anywhere.

    Replies: @70sTarheel

    A lot of people bought the Taurus Judge.

    • Agree: Adam Smith
    • Replies: @Adam Smith
    @70sTarheel

    Many of us bought a Judge or a Smith & Wesson Governor. Meanwhile, .410 shotguns have become popular in recent years. There has also been "supply chain issues" involving primers. I guess it's a perfect recipe for an ammo shortage.(?)

    So, I did find some 2.5" .410 shot shells online, but they're a bit pricey at $2.20 a round.

    Kinda reminds me of the .22 shortage a few years back.
    When the .410 becomes more available (and affordable) I will stock up.

  131. @Bard of Bumperstickers
    @Kylie

    Agreed about Graham.

    For many conservative Christians, though, Israel can do no wrong.


    NewsGuard Adviser Michael Hayden Calls for Sen. Tommy Tuberville to Be ‘Removed’ from the Human Race
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/10/former-cia-nsa-director-gen-michael-hayden-calls-for-sen-tuberville-to-be-removed-from-human-race/

    Be pro-Israel, or be unpersoned.

    "Entangling alliances with none."
    https://mises.org/wire/get-us-out-middle-east

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    Michael Hayden has no standing, as he is not human himself.

  132. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Colin Wright

    "Zionism" - a nation for every people and a country for every nation - seems like a good way to organize society.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “”Zionism” – a nation for every people and a country for every nation – seems like a good way to organize society.”

    We have that already. See: United Stares.

  133. @Hypnotoad666
    @Altai3


    It’s worth noting that the idea of taking and ethnically cleansing Gaza and the West Bank is pretty mainstream at this stage in Israeli politics and is the long-term goal of basically everyone in Netanyahu’s coalition.
     
    They need a final solution to their Palestinian problem so that they can finally have an ethnically pure state with the living space necessary to thrive.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “They need a final solution to their Palestinian problem so that they can finally have an ethnically pure state with the living space necessary to thrive”

    Lol, that’s also the dream for you and your ilk—s scorched earth policy for your “enemies”. Thankfully, you don’t the guts to pull a Kyle or a St. Brievik.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Corvinus


    “They need a final solution to their Palestinian problem so that they can finally have an ethnically pure state with the living space necessary to thrive”

    Lol, that’s also the dream for you and your ilk—s scorched earth policy for your “enemies”.
     

     
    Interesting. Is that your view? That Zionist Jews are seeking an ethnically pure state with “living space”?

    Replies: @Corvinus

  134. @Almost Missouri
    @Colin Wright


    They could not help noticing, though, that the Indians had brought only one captive with them. This was Matilda Lockhart, the same girl whose father had called to her during Colonel Moore’s fight on the San Saba a year before. She had been taken in a raid in 1838 along with her younger sister, during which other family members had been killed. She was fifteen, and her appearance in the plaza in San Antonio shocked the people who saw her. As one observer—Mary Maverick, wife of a prominent local merchant—put it, Matilda’s “head, face and arms were full of bruises, and sores, and her nose was actually burnt off to the bone—all the fleshy end gone with a great scab formed on the end of the bone. Both nostrils were wide open and denuded of flesh.”[27] She said she had been tortured by the Comanche women. It was not just her face that had been disfigured. Her entire body bore scars from fire. In private Matilda informed the white women that what she had suffered was even worse than that. She had been “utterly degraded,” she said, using the code word for rape, “and could not hold her head up again.”

    The Comanches were completely oblivious to the effect this had on the Texans. Many of the latter were familiar with the tortures practiced by the eastern tribes such as the Choctaws and Cherokees, which included the use of fire. But it was almost always practiced on men. Those tribes rarely abducted, raped, and tortured white women, as the plains tribes did.[28] Even to people accustomed to Indian violence, the sight of Matilda came as a shock. As if to make things worse, Matilda was an intelligent, perceptive girl who had learned the Comanche language quickly and thus knew that there were other captives in Indian camps. She estimated fifteen. She told the Texans about these captives.

    This was all prelude to the meeting, which took place in a one-story courthouse that would go down in history as the Council House. ...

    [27] Mary Maverick, Memoirs of Mary Maverick, p. 31.
    [28] Fehrenbach, The Comanches, p. 326.

     

    Empire of the Summer Moon, ch. 6

    Perhaps this is "oft-overlooked", but it was one of the most notable parts of the book in my recollection, along with Cynthia Ann Parker's obvious Stockholm syndrome, which Gwynne absurdly tries to pass off as female empowerment.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @obwandiyag

    Never read Borges, I guess. Try the Story of the Warrior and the Captive.

  135. Anonymous[156] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    @Hypnotoad666

    “They need a final solution to their Palestinian problem so that they can finally have an ethnically pure state with the living space necessary to thrive”

    Lol, that’s also the dream for you and your ilk—s scorched earth policy for your “enemies”. Thankfully, you don’t the guts to pull a Kyle or a St. Brievik.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    “They need a final solution to their Palestinian problem so that they can finally have an ethnically pure state with the living space necessary to thrive”

    Lol, that’s also the dream for you and your ilk—s scorched earth policy for your “enemies”.

    Interesting. Is that your view? That Zionist Jews are seeking an ethnically pure state with “living space”?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Anonymous

    “Interesting. Is that your view? That Zionist Jews are seeking an ethnically pure state with “living space”?”

    Never said that. What I said is that it seems the extreme right would love to rid their “enemies” permanently Pinochet style.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  136. @70sTarheel
    @Adam Smith

    A lot of people bought the Taurus Judge.

    Replies: @Adam Smith

    Many of us bought a Judge or a Smith & Wesson Governor. Meanwhile, .410 shotguns have become popular in recent years. There has also been “supply chain issues” involving primers. I guess it’s a perfect recipe for an ammo shortage.(?)

    So, I did find some 2.5″ .410 shot shells online, but they’re a bit pricey at $2.20 a round.

    Kinda reminds me of the .22 shortage a few years back.
    When the .410 becomes more available (and affordable) I will stock up.

  137. Anonymous[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    @Anonymous


    Speaking of times of crisis, thoughts on your beloved party’s asylum seeker housing policies bringing a bedbug infestation to Croatia? For once at the forefront of European trends!
     
    There will be blood.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    There will be blood.

    I don’t know.

    I’m sure plenty of Croatian blood will be spilt at the altar of Western modernity, but not too sure that Croatians will put up much of a defense. Young people seem lost. By the time denial becomes impossible, I’m afraid everyone will just shrug and quietly accept our fate. Already a few of the people I’ve discussed it with have reluctantly reconciled themselves to it.

    The people at the root of this story are apparently Afghans who arrived two years ago. They’ve stayed, instead of just running away chasing the more generous benefits of Western Europe, as so many have hoped they would. Perhaps it’s time to face reality and start seriously worrying. At this point, even panic might be an appropriate response.

    It might be silly, as I’ve already become used to migrants shitting all over the place, breaking and entering (and smearing shit all over the houses in question), desecrating graveyards, shooting at border police, scaring the native population and limiting its movement… But for some reason this bedbug story made my blood boil.

    It’s supposed to be these people’s country, supposedly run for their benefit. Now even their homes are ruined (with so many others to follow), and there’s absolutely nothing they could have done to prevent it.

    The trouble is, I’ll get used to this, too, at some point. We all will.

  138. @Anonymous
    @Corvinus


    “They need a final solution to their Palestinian problem so that they can finally have an ethnically pure state with the living space necessary to thrive”

    Lol, that’s also the dream for you and your ilk—s scorched earth policy for your “enemies”.
     

     
    Interesting. Is that your view? That Zionist Jews are seeking an ethnically pure state with “living space”?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Interesting. Is that your view? That Zionist Jews are seeking an ethnically pure state with “living space”?”

    Never said that. What I said is that it seems the extreme right would love to rid their “enemies” permanently Pinochet style.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Corvinus


    “Interesting. Is that your view? That Zionist Jews are seeking an ethnically pure state with “living space”?”

    Never said that. What I said is that it seems the extreme right would love to rid their “enemies” permanently Pinochet style.
     

     
    Good. I just wanted to be sure you weren’t saying that about Jews.
  139. Why this analogy?

    Simple. The idea is that Palestinians are subhuman savages who should be exterminated.

    Perfectly fine that Jews hold the entire Palestinian territories hostage.

  140. Anonymous[328] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    @Anonymous

    “Interesting. Is that your view? That Zionist Jews are seeking an ethnically pure state with “living space”?”

    Never said that. What I said is that it seems the extreme right would love to rid their “enemies” permanently Pinochet style.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    “Interesting. Is that your view? That Zionist Jews are seeking an ethnically pure state with “living space”?”

    Never said that. What I said is that it seems the extreme right would love to rid their “enemies” permanently Pinochet style.

    Good. I just wanted to be sure you weren’t saying that about Jews.

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