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The only possible answer is that Putin was not really worried about a NATO threat.

I beg to differ
Quote-17 December 2021 Russia presents a highly contentious list of security demands in order to lower tensions in Europe and defuse the crisis over Ukraine, including a legally binding guarantee that Ukraine will never gain NATO membership and NATO will give up any military activity in eastern Europe and Ukraine.
21 February 2022 President Putin recognises the independence of the two breakaway territories in eastern Ukraine – the Luhansk People’s Republic and Donetsk People’s Republic. Treaties of friendship, cooperation and mutual assistance were signed by Russia and the leaders of the LPR and DPR.
23 February 2022 Denis Pushilin and Leonid Pasechnik, the respective heads of the so-called People’s Republics of Donetsk and Luhansk, request help “in repelling the aggression of the Ukrainian armed forces”, according to the Interfax news agency, quoting Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov. Several analysts suggest these requests could be the pretext Russia uses to launch an attack on Ukraine.
24 February 2022 In an early morning address (just before 3am, UK time) on Russian state television, President Putin announces Russian forces will carry out “a special military operation” in Ukraine. (https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-9476/CBP-9476.pdf)

After reviewing The Tragedy of Great Power Politics and thinking about it for some time, I don’t think Mearsheimer has contradicted the tenets of offensive realism.

Mearsheimer’s own famous ‘offensive realism’ thesis fatalistically sustains that any country must conquer if it can and if it does not want to be conquered.

I basically agree that if Russia “wins”, then Ukraine will be more or less conquered, but I think the words “if it can” and “conquer” are worth considering in a figurative sense. Mearsheimer claims that Russia either lacks the ability to physically control all of Ukraine, or the costs would be too high, or it doesn’t really need to because Putin’s peace terms are sufficient for Russia’s security. Maybe all of the above. But what he considers Putin’s reasonable demands—political control over parts of eastern Ukraine, all of Crimea, plus a “friendlier” neutral regime in Western Ukraine—means that Ukraine would be significantly “controlled” if not “conquered”. That is in accordance with offensive realism. So I think he’s acting like a lawyer with his semantic argument.

What does it really mean to conquer a country anyway? One could argue that Canada is conquered because it’s totally subordinate to the U.S. in a political-economic-military sense, and has been since the 1960s. The U.S. from time to time tells Canada what to do, and never the other way around. What are Canada’s options really? Every country which hosts a semi-permanent U.S. military base might be conquered to some extent. Critics would say “No, those countries are sovereign states, and they want the U.S. military bases there because it’s in their self-interest to outsource part of their defense requirements.” To that I would say, an offer that you can’t refuse is not much of an agreement.

This is no more no less than a perfect refutation of ‘offensive realism’.

Here there might be a misunderstanding. Offensive realism is based on an intrinsic “security through power” logic that is allegedly expressed by all states that qualify as “Great Powers”. It is a theory of general or universal behavior based on the structure of world politics and each state’s desire for protection. Mearsheimer is not arguing against this, he is arguing against those who claim Russia behaves with an exceptional or pathological aggressiveness as opposed to other states. At the same time, he admits that Russia launched a “preventive war” for reasons that are in accordance with offensive realism—namely security. He would say that countries in parallel circumstances, with comparable resources and power, would likely consider the same options to guarantee their security.

I’m not claiming that Mearsheimer is correct about anything; just that he doesn’t really refute his own theory here. It might be obsolete for other reasons, but there are also people who would prefer it to be obsolete, and therefore are predisposed to interpret it as such. I’m not exactly a fan of deterministic theories that are based on historical circumstances, especially since people tend to interpret events according to whatever theory they believe in. It can become an ideology, which Mearsheimer also advocates in a sense. He himself apparently believes that the U.S. and Russia should become allies so that they can better contain China and perhaps accelerate its decline, which again is in accordance with offensive realism. From this perspective, the Ukrainians are almost a nuisance in the grand scheme of things. I’ve noticed a lot of Republicans and conservatives share this ideology.

I’ll point out, however, that Mearsheimer also conveniently included some “terms and conditions” that to an extent absolve him from liability in the event reality does not conform with his theory.

The evidence for the possible total invasion of Ukraine is implicit in Putin’s actions.
Assuming Putin has the right to tell Ukraine what it can and cannot do regarding joining NATO and the possible installation of undesirable weapons close to Russia’s boarder (eg questionable precedent set by the Cuban missile incident), then invasion is justified.
Invasion was probably not Putin’s choice; however, it seems it was a card that he was willing to play in order to convince Ukraine not to join NATO and so not permit NATO’s expansion eastwards.
Quote-17 December 2021 Russia presents a highly contentious list of security demands in order to lower tensions in Europe and defuse the crisis over Ukraine, including a legally binding guarantee that Ukraine will never gain NATO membership and NATO will give up any military activity in eastern Europe and Ukraine.
21 February 2022 President Putin recognises the independence of the two breakaway territories in eastern Ukraine – the Luhansk People’s Republic and Donetsk People’s Republic. Treaties of friendship, cooperation and mutual assistance were signed by Russia and the leaders of the LPR and DPR.
23 February 2022 Denis Pushilin and Leonid Pasechnik, the respective heads of the so-called People’s Republics of Donetsk and Luhansk, request help “in repelling the aggression of the Ukrainian armed forces”, according to the Interfax news agency, quoting Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov. Several analysts suggest these requests could be the pretext Russia uses to launch an attack on Ukraine.
24 February 2022 In an early morning address (just before 3am, UK time) on Russian state television, President Putin announces Russian forces will carry out “a special military operation” in Ukraine. (https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-9476/CBP-9476.pdf)

The more important question seems to me to be-not who started the war but what were Putin’s motives and intentions in attacking Ukraine. Assistance only to Donetsk and Luhansk? Or, except in the case of Ukraine’s absolute divorce with NATO, a “no going back” attempt to ensure there is never a NATO presence in Ukraine.

The evidence for the possible total invasion of Ukraine is implicit in Putin’s actions.
Assuming Putin has the right to tell Ukraine what it can and cannot do regarding joining NATO and the possible installation of undesirable weapons close to Russia’s boarder (eg questionable precedent set by the Cuban missile incident), then invasion is justified.
Invasion was probably not Putin’s choice; however, it seems it was a card that he was willing to play in order to convince Ukraine not to join NATO and so not permit NATO’s expansion eastwards.
Quote-17 December 2021 Russia presents a highly contentious list of security demands in order to lower tensions in Europe and defuse the crisis over Ukraine, including a legally binding guarantee that Ukraine will never gain NATO membership and NATO will give up any military activity in eastern Europe and Ukraine.
21 February 2022 President Putin recognises the independence of the two breakaway territories in eastern Ukraine – the Luhansk People’s Republic and Donetsk People’s Republic. Treaties of friendship, cooperation and mutual assistance were signed by Russia and the leaders of the LPR and DPR.
23 February 2022 Denis Pushilin and Leonid Pasechnik, the respective heads of the so-called People’s Republics of Donetsk and Luhansk, request help “in repelling the aggression of the Ukrainian armed forces”, according to the Interfax news agency, quoting Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov. Several analysts suggest these requests could be the pretext Russia uses to launch an attack on Ukraine.
24 February 2022 In an early morning address (just before 3am, UK time) on Russian state television, President Putin announces Russian forces will carry out “a special military operation” in Ukraine. (https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-9476/CBP-9476.pdf)

The more important question seems to me to be-not who started the war but what were Putin’s motives and intentions in attacking Ukraine. Assistance only to Donetsk and Luhansk? Or, except in the case of a Ukraine’s absolute divorce with NATO, a “no going back” attempt to ensure there is never a NATO presence in Ukraine.

Since Jew-haters are paranoid and tend to accuse anyone refuting their madness of being hidden Jews anyway, there’s no point in a Jew online pretending to be a non-Jew; it would never work and plays into the hands of the Jew-haters.

By contrast, for a Jew to openly acknowledge being a Jew removes the tiresome distraction and evasion technique of “you’re a Jew pretending to not be a Jew”.

Thus, when advocating for Israel or refuting Jew-hating kookery, it would not only make sense for Jews in these exchanges to be open about being Jews, it would even make sense for non-Jews to pretend to be Jews, just to get that stupid accusation out of the way.

So you’re not just wrong, you’re OBVIOUSLY wrong.

>I think it was largely motivated by the eight-years of killing, brutalizing, and subjugating of >ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine.

WAR CRIMES OF THE ARMED
FORCES AND SECURITY
FORCES OF UKRAINE:
torture and inhumane treatment
Second report
https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/e/7/233896.pdf

decree of annexing , above

The Ukrainian troops at the contact line after Zelensky issued the degree of annexing Crimea and …

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/120000-ukrainian-troops-amassed-at-donbas-contact-line:-drp
https://pravda-en.com/world/2024/01/23/278566.html

USA has used sanctions against Cuba since 1960.

Troll-it’s NOT ‘abuse’. It’s description.

Ukraine better start organizing independence referendums in the parts of Russia they liberated. Do you guys keep sucking off MacGregor, two and a half years past when he thought this war will end?

It’s about time Russia decolonizes and returns to her rightful borders, those of the Duchy of Muscovy.

The Russians were welcomed, as in Bucha. When they left, after the Ukronazis signed the Peace Agreement in Turkey, your Banderite idols returned and murdered those who had welcomed the Russians, then blamed the slaughter on Russia. You really are a shit magnet, troll.

This is a proxy NATO war against Russia using Ukraine as a battle ground and Ukrainians as cannon fodder.
NATO is the USA, without the USA there would be no NATO.

Han, Schomo is following the Talmud guidelines of: lie, lie, deny, deny, smear and slander.

FYI: his name is not Patrick McNally, they always use Irish names as a cover.

You say: “lack of using TNWs, just as NATO has refrained from their use as well”

Do you imply that NATO is at war with Russia?
since you are stating that “NATO is refraining from the use of TNWs”?

What weapons and weapon systems is NATO not refraining from using?

Similar Ukrainian media stunts are happening right now, but even less successful:

An amphibious assault in The Kherson region:

https://southfront.press/in-video-18-ukrainian-nazis-suffered-heavy-losses-on-kinburn-spit-in-kherson-region/

A cross-border attack similar to Kursk, but in the Belgorod region:

https://southfront.press/russian-forces-repelled-ukrainian-border-attack-in-belgorod-region/

Have your fun, this will have no effect on the outcome of the war. If there is any desperation it’s from Ukropians. You seem to miss seeing the pattern. The Ukrainians do provocations and political stunts, and the mainstream media bids consumers to jump for joy. Ignore the systematic slaughter of Ukrainian soldiers and cheer for another media event. What will they get you all excited about next, F-16s?

It’s one thing to dismiss Western media coverage of this incursion as mere “hype” – but it’s pathetic to ignore it as if it were not happening. Unz could, presumably, provide more measured, sober, non-“hyped” coverage, or cover it only from the perspective of criticizing other coverage. But nothing.

As of the time of this comment, I still see no mention at all of this matter in an Unz headline. Deafening silence.

If the Russians had achieved a similar breakthrough, the largest on either side in nearly two years, you think it would go unmentioned here? Oh no, it would be “neocon project collapses” – “Washington empire humiliated” .. “time for Kiev to ditch NATO and make peace while it can” etc.

Meanwhile, here is what is actually happening while Unz hilariously desperately insists “Nothing to see here folks!”

Russia Evacuates More Border Areas Amid Ukrainian Advances
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/08/12/russia-evacuates-more-border-areas-amid-ukrainian-advances-a85992

facepalm

No. Putin HAS controlled opposition. He is not, himself, as is obvious to any rational person with half an ounce of common sense, “controlled opposition.” Russia is a de facto autocracy in his tight grip. Whenever anyone becomes powerful or popular enough to be a threat – he is eliminated. Generals, politicians, oligarchs. Russia has, as you note, nuclear weapons. Which means that while he can be bargained with, deterred (hence his lack of using TNWs, just as NATO has refrained from their use as well), and otherwise influenced, perhaps even defeated and overthrown, there is no way, while he is in office, for anyone to make him into a helpless puppet.

> This speech [a letter sent to the newspaper] of Menachem Mendel Schneerson, the Chabad Leader and Messiah (the Lubavitcher Rebbe), was published in the Vologda newspaper Slavyanin in 2001 in Russia.

Whereas the real Schneerson died in Brooklyn in 1994, and no one has any record of him giving a speech way out in Vologda at any time shortly before his passing in 1994.

> Following the publication, the court was unable to prosecute its editor, V.F. Popov,

Not many normal rational people will respond to this by saying that the man should be prosecuted. It should simply be recognized that this fable fits all of the classic patterns of a fake document.

Putin is not an adversary but a controlled opposition working towards the same common goal:

Partition of Russia and extermination of the greater part of her people

Any genuine adversary would have nuked with TNWs by now, at the very least, in no particular order:

Beskydy Tunnel
Ramstein Air Base
Fairford Air Base
RoAF 57th Air Base
Rzeszow logistics hub

and the war would have finished with that, but, unfortunately, without partition of Russia,
so the “war” “must go on” and Putin is just another compliant controlled opposition.

LOL, are you looking for things to cry about?

Ignore the hype, the media will drop the story eventually, as the Ukrainians get rounded up. You are missing the part where the Russian army stops the whole operation in it’s tracks. It’s a war, Ukraine took an opportunity, but accept for propaganda value it’s a grim waste of lives and resources. Meanwhile the SMO continues. Someone, probably Ukraine set fire to part of Zaporozhe nuclear powerplant. Both incidents are political stunts, they probably won’t affect the war. Next, Zelensky takes the stage to beg for weapons and to play the blame game. I bet Zelensky starts asking for f-35s next.

Baghdad Bob? Is that you?

Don’t you have an exploding fireworks factory to tell people there’s nothing to see about?

seems that “77th” Brigade recruits are expected to have social sciences skills,

whilst Military training and Natural Sciences knowledge are a hindrance to service…

there is very little that the “77th” can really effect on unz – MSM sites would be a better target

It’s a hiccup, the area is under terrorist threat level martial law. The Russians responded appropriately to a threat, so becalm yourself. What disaster? It’s a resource-wasting PR stunt by Ukraine to get more money and weapons from Westerners. MSM seemed sort of hesitant about this latest miracle. The lack of merchandizing makes me think it’s Ukraine trying to milk the media cow without clearing it with NATO first.

The invasion was politically imposed by the Kremlin, and specifically Putin and his innermost circle, not a military initiative. The information was so tightly held that most troops and even officers didn’t even know where they were going, what they were doing, and who (if anyone) they were supposed to fight.

Furthermore, even if this invasion was planned by the military, assuming that it was done in strict accordance with pre-existing written military doctrine is silly. As if on-paper requirements are scrupulously honored in Russia! It’s also required on paper that citizens’ free speech and right to run for office in opposition to the incumbent be honored, that laws against corruption (especially in the military) be honored, etc. And yet of course Putin’s critics are jailed and killed, the military is so riddled with corruption that troops lack basic supplies and even food, etc.

And finally, you can still reconcile the force numbers with the notion that invasion was planned in strict accordance with pre-existing military doctrine. Because those numbers would presume a hostile populace. But the Kremlin line was that Ukrainians ARE Russians and would welcome the Kremlin forces as liberators saving them from a “fascist, Nazi” regime.

Sidorenko (and Clausewitz) are mandatory readings at all Russian military academies

https://www.usmcu.edu/Outreach/Marine-Corps-University-Press/MCU-Journal/JAMS-vol-14-no-2/Russias-War-in-Ukraine/

“Putin’s invasion plan is that it violated the Sidorenko force requirements in Russian military field manuals. At the start of 2022, the Ukrainian military had 196,600 active-duty personnel (plus 180,000 territorial army personnel), which, according to the 3:1 force ratio (Sidorenko) rule, would have required an invasion of 590,000 (or 1.2mln.) Russian personnel. Instead, the Russians planned an invasion with 190,000 personnel, actually smaller than the combined Ukrainian armed forces.

Using the standard figure of 20 military occupiers per 1,000 inhabitants, the Russians would have needed an occupation army of 880,000 to pacify the 44 million Ukrainians, about the size of the entire military of the Russian Federation. The actual invasion force of 190,000 would have given them a ratio of only 4.5 per 1,000 Ukrainians”

The very simple explanation to Russian generals ignoring their own military field manuals (automatic court martial offence) is that they never had a military objective that would have required to follow that mandatory 3:1 ratio – they never had an objective to take over Ukraine or Kiev.

@post 150 – Russia will be fully defeated in this war without deployment of TNWs

It’s five days since Ukrainian forces crossed into internationally-recognized Russian territory on August 6. They’re still in Russia and in fact have encountered no significant pushback at all.

Not a peep about it on Unz. Where are the screaming headlines? Not even outrage proclaiming this as Ukrainian “aggression”.

Clearly, this is so humiliating to the Kremlin, so devastating to the Unz crowd’s preferred narrative of inevitable Russian victory, that the “solution” is a pathetic attempt to strenuously ignore the disaster.

Except that, as I pointed out, it is clear given the presence of riot police armed with truncheons and shields in the first echelon of forces heading for Kiev, the Russians expected Ukrainian resistance to collapse rapidly, and for the most important order of business to be the imposition of civil order rather than prolonged intense military conflict as in WW2.

In short, Putin expected his “special military operation” to be like the 1990 Persian Gulf War for the coalition, with the defending army, while large and reasonably well-equipped on paper, having no morale and no willingness to fight for its regime and which therefore collapsed completely within days of the entry of invading ground forces.

You’re probably correct, but your legitimate or at least arguable points seem like a response to a post I didn’t make, a post that criticized Putin for recklessness or taking unnecessarily big risks, or for failure.

My actual point, instead, was to refute two of Mearsheimer’s seven points buttressing his claim that Putin had neither intended to conquer Ukraine in toto nor to impose a subservient regime on those portions of Ukraine that Russia would not openly annex.

Mearsheimer’s point 2 of 7 was that there is no evidence that Putin intended to do this. I replied by saying that from the start, Putin’s invasion had Kiev as a primary target. Which makes no sense for an invasion with sharply limited goals like “liberating” the areas Russia now claims.

Mearsheimer’s point 3 of 7 was that Putin had invaded with insufficient troops to conquer all Ukraine or impose regime change, thus proving that Putin had no such intention. I replied that while the troop numbers were insufficient had (as proved to the case) the Ukrainians put up serious and prolonged resistance, those limited Russian troop numbers WOULD have been sufficient to conquer the whole country, or impose a subservient regime, had the Ukrainians collapsed. And before the “special military operation” began, it was a widespread view, in the West and in Russia as well, that Ukrainians lacked morale, patriotism, anti-Russian sentiment, and, frankly, courage, and would collapse if invaded. Thus, invading with a smaller force than needed to crush intense all-out military resistance is NOT proof of the invasion having limited goals. Especially since Russia sent riot police among the very first echelon of men toward Kiev: clear evidence of expecting near-immediate regime collapse and a need, not for high-intensity military conflict, but merely of quelling any possible civilian protest.

Try again, this time addressing the substance of my point instead of personal abuse

In science, the rule is: a hypothesis is true when it explains all the facts and does not contradict any of them. For Ukraine, this hypothesis is the following: Putin is under full control of the West and follows its orders. The war was started on the orders of Putin’s Western masters. That is why Moscow supplies Ukraine with gas and uranium fuel for its nuclear power plants. These are reliable facts. I would not be surprised if Putin supplies Kiev with ammunition as well. Two months before the war started, Russia supplied Ukraine with double the amount of coal and fuel – this is a reliable fact. So the war will continue until Putin and Zelensky’s masters order it to stop.

this war started because putin went into syria in 2012,

I believe you mentioned that before in comment here months ago and it caught my attention since you are the only person I’ve read mentions this as a catalyst of what is witnessed today, and one might say one of the root causes for the war in Ukraine. I was to start a paragraph with the ‘fact’ that you reiterated, in my reply to this article.

The US is taking revenge from Russia for stopping them with their plan in the Middle East (Third World War) in 2012.

Iran had sent delegates to Russia during the beginnings of the Syrian conflict informing them that if the US attacks Syria directly, they will attack everyone in the region (Israel and its so called Arabs allies).

In fact, the Russians had shot down a couple US jets over Syria to stop the US aggression from causing a regional war. Also, shot down a US missile that fired from Spain to target Syria. Perhaps that explains why the Turks shot down a Russian jet at that time.

The fall of Syria would be an ‘existentialist’ threat to the Islamic Republic and to the Axis of Resistance in the Middle East region. That is, Syria is the chain between Iran and the Resistances Movements including the armed resistance factions in Palestine. Hence, the US had managed to establish military bases in western Syria, eastern Iraq on the Euphrates.

Palestine is an absolute to the Muslims ideologically and psyche. The people, the natives of the Middle East are moved by an ideology, that is their religion. That must always kept on mind when gauging major changes over that region.

Of course, a so called ‘Greater Israel’ would be established then, if the Resistance Movements were not present. And this we witness today sharply and actively since October 7th of 2023, that it is the Axis are the ultimate and real threat against Israel and US (militaristic) presence in the land of the Arabs.

One of the Iranian’s generals mentioned a month or so ago in a speech that the war on Syria and the region did cost the US $7 trillions. Of course the implication here is the obvious that ISIS was an American (and Israeli by the virtue of its goals and methods) project.

The Americans and the Israelis, and the Saudis would jointly direct ISIS military from Jordan, and the Russians would eliminate these command centers in Jordan through their airstrikes.

The success of ISIS would mean that the CIA-Style terrorism will be at Moscow’s doorsteps.

You have the wars in Chechnya being a great example of the Western manufactured ‘Islamists’ terrorism that is aimed at Russia; until the Russians managed to have a pro-Russian leadership there who managed to fight against ISIS (Sufi Muslim, like the Shia’s, a nemesis to the Wahhabism and the its tentacles like ISIS and so).

The Saudis had spent more than $30 billion since the 1970’s enforcing a foreign thing to the region like Wahhabism over the world among the Muslims.

A bonus, or rather, a major aim was achieved for the Russians by establishing their military in the Middle East around 2012.

The Hashemites who ruled Western Arabia (Mecca and Medina) were overthrown by the British in the 1930’s for opening channels of communications with the Russians at that time.

It was the Hashemites who just facilitated the British to establish themselves in the Middle East by invoking an Arab tribes alliance to fight against the Muslim Turks, the Ottoman empire in World War I. The Brits promised the Hashemite Hessian that he would be the “King of the Arabs”. Which we all know, such never did actualize.

The Brits used the Saudis to accomplish the overthrow of the Hashemites. The Saudis and the Israelis are of the same thing, were established in that region by the same power, at the same time, and occupying the core Muslim sacred sites and cities: Mecca, Medina, and Jerusalem.

Besides, it is accepted within the Arabs that the Saudis and the Israelis share the same lineage. Thus, Mecca and Medina were swallowed up before Jerusalem by the same force.

A reason Kurdistan as a state-nation was not created or carved out in the early twentieth century when the maps were drawn in that Middle East by the Brits and the French, that the British did fear that the Russians might gain access to the ‘warm waters’, the assumption that the Kurds were allying themselves already with the Russians back then.

It could had been Churchill who decided so (since he drew the maps of the contemporary Middle East among the Arabs).

This to say, indeed, Russian’s interference, or presence in Syria in 2012 was a major setback against the West, who tried to deprive the Russians, even in Afghanistan, from the having access to the ‘warm waters’ for more than a century. And a major setback against the US for being deprived from utterly destroying the Arabs and Muslims and their nations through ISIS. This, no doubt, in conclusion is to serve Israel who are the actual policy and decision makers regarding the Middle East in the US.

Regarding Russia’s president Putin’s view in regards NATO, and that of the Russia’s elites, who would not look at the West as not being an existential threat to every one and every nation on earth, rather, the Humanity collective itself, as very well demonstrated and witnessed today in Gaza?

Everything reveals itself.

Rather than one of the many causes, it’s just one instance indicative of the overall cause – Russia is too big, powerful to leave alone cause it will be able to act independently. It fits with Mearssheimer’s realist doctrine.

America didn’t want Russia in NATO cause a Russian-European concord might lead to independence of that block. Success.

Even alone, Russia still has to be dismembered in order to prevent it from becoming a regional or, in the long-term, even global power.

Would be more interesting if Mearssheimer analyzed these aspects.

USSR deployed 2.5mln troops to retake Ukraine
and 750k troops to retake Kiev in WW2

Russian ground forces of under 150k in 2022 had neither of those objectives.

And with total armed forces of 1.1mln Russia absolutely has no intention (and never had) to go beyond the current frontlines in the final settlement, and this is why the war goes on – because of the half-hearted “miserable” objectives Russia does not deploy TNW and hence NATO does not take Russia seriously.

This war ends either with partition of Russia or TNW (if the world ROW is lucky)

A gamble that failed. If the negotiations between Russia and Ukraine had culminated in a peace agreement (say in April 2024) then Putin’s actions would and could be considered brilliant. As the agreement was not allowed to come to term, then all your criticisms, in retrospect, gain some validity. But that’s Monday morning quarterbacking.

A racist troll and an idiot too, and who takes us all as idiots. Is it just thick and brainwashed, ignorant of hundreds of years of Western pillage, or simply a vulgar liar-or both?

Cuba is NOT a member of a belligerent military alliance determined to attack the USA and smash it into pieces, you imbecile.

I’m going to be the contarian here and say this war has nothing to do with Minsk, Nato, Dombas, Ukrainian nationality, Nazi or historic Russia. It has to do with getting Europe off Russia oil and gas so the EU countries will buy oil and gas from Israeli. Its estimated israel has more oil in the Golan Heights than Saudi Arabia and trillions of cubic feet of natural gas off its shores in the Eastern Mediterranean.

2013 was the pivotal year for the implementation of this strategy, where a modest company called Genie Energy was given exclusive rights to drill there and an agreement was signed between Greece, Cyprus and Israel for joint developed.

A look at Genie’s strategic planning board shows you the importance of this company’s:

Dick Cheney since 2009 (former vice president of the United States), Rupert Murdoch (media oligarch), James Woolsey (former CIA director), Larry Summers (former head US Treasury), Bill Richardson (former Governor of New Mexico, ex-ambassador to the United Nations and United States Energy Secretary), Michael Steinhardt, Jacob Rothschild, and Mary Landrieu, former United States Senator from Louisiana.

Also, Greek Prime Minister Samaras on 8 August 2013 at a meeting at the White House that Israel has a special role to play in supplying Europe with energy resources and supported that it can become a key energy hub.

The following year the ukraine color revolution occurred, Crimea was occupied and dombass separated from Ukraine.

In 2017 Hugh pipeline deal signed by most major continental energy actors to bring gas from Eastern Med to Europe.

The US recognized the Golan Heights as part of Israel through a presidential proclamation signed by President Trump on March 25, 2019, guaranteeing Israeli sovreig
Following two links you may find of interesting.

1) An American Thinker analysis of the Russia and Israeli territorial claims.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/10/russia_and_israel_annexation_and_international_law.html

2) Israel’s self’declared Divine right to Golan oil and Mediterranean oil/gas

https://www.israel365news.com/353623/israel-to-supply-natural-gas-to-europe-and-its-connection-to-a-blessing-from-deuteronomy/

3) Israel’s first shipment oil to Europe.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-exports-crude-oil-for-first-time-with-shipment-heading-for-europe/

Using the same logic and arguments as provided by John J. Mearsheimer one can conclude that USA has right (almost a duty) to attack and take over Cuba.
After all, USA is a superpower and Cuba is in direct sphere of her influence.

The globalists and NATO want Russia and its resources

This is stupid. Compared to the West, Russia is poor. What desirable resources it has can simply be accessed via peaceful trade which is much easier, less expensive, and above all less risky than war.

On Point 2, if Putin intended neither to outright annex Ukraine nor even merely install a subservient regime, why did he attempt to seize Kiev? Kiev is not Crimea, nor the Donbass; it does not have an ethnic-Russian majority population to come riding into the rescue of. It’s the capital of Ukraine. There’s no reasonable explanation for trying to seize a state’s capital other than that you are attempting to impose regime change.

On Point 3, it wasn’t just a matter of numbers, or Western arms. In fact, as shown by his sending in not only combat troops but also, early on, lightly-armed internal police units armed with little more than shields and truncheons, he was not anticipating serious and prolonged resistance. He thought Ukraine lacked strong national cohesion and identity and/or that its leadership was too corrupt to fight. He missed the change in Ukraine that had resulted from the seizure of Crimea and the secession wars in the east; with the most pro-Russian areas removed, public opinion in the rest of Ukraine had hardened considerably against Russia. Speaking Russian doesn’t mean you want to be ruled by Moscow: the USA and Ireland seceded from the British Empire, and the US Southern states tried to secede from the US.

Another fake speech. Supposedly it was first published in Vologda in 2001. Schneerson died in Brooklyn in 1994. How the heck would anyone out in Vologda ever uncover a supposedly secret speech which Schneerson would have to have given in Brooklyn?

VERY SIMPLE, Patrick McNally.

This speech [a letter sent to the newspaper] of Menachem Mendel Schneerson, the Chabad Leader and Messiah (the Lubavitcher Rebbe), was published in the Vologda newspaper Slavyanin in 2001 in Russia.
Following the publication, the court was unable to prosecute its editor, V.F. Popov, under trumped up charges under Article 282, [incitement of national hatred] as he operated on the facts, and several Russian scientists stood up for him, including Academician Y. K. Begunov and Doctor of Law O.G. Korotayev.

> Schneerson and explained in his 1994 speech.

Another fake speech. Supposedly it was first published in Vologda in 2001. Schneerson died in Brooklyn in 1994. How the heck would anyone out in Vologda ever uncover a supposedly secret speech which Schneerson would have to have given in Brooklyn?

Despite the sanctions, since the beginning of the escalation of the situation in Ukraine, Russia has acquired US-made chips for combat electronics for nearly four billion dollars, The NYT reported.

They also managed to purchase F.P.G.A., one of the important chips for missiles produced by the American companies Advanced Micro Devices and Intel. That chip is also used in drones for lightning-fast data processing.

T NYT notes that many of the chips were purchased through a group of shell companies in Hong Kong. Citing data from Russian customs, the paper claims that Moscow imported more than $390 million worth of these goods through them, which is just part of its “efforts to circumvent sanctions.”

It emphasizes that as early as 2020, the Kremlin tried to establish chip production in the country, but that Moscow instead “established relations with major chip manufacturers in the US.”

NYT still adds that Russia has “rapidly reoriented its supply chains”, starting with the search for friendly countries and ports willing to serve its ships. Thus, Russia gained the opportunity to buy chips through Turkey, the United Arab Emirates and Morocco. However, China has become the main supplier of chips to Russia.

Reportedly, 29% of all semiconductors to Russia are supplied through China. The chips for Russia’s Shahed and Lancet drones are manufactured in the central Chinese city of Chengdu.

Yes – and that was my initial reaction to the article – which shortly led to my realization that those who need to read it…..WON’T!
I’ve learned that from personal experience from both friends and family. You can’t push a rope – they’re too comfortable….for now.

Yes, but diving more deeply, the “West” lost touch with the fundamentals of civilization when it embraced all the luxuries of anti-moralism, like perversions, reproductive and gerontological death choices, racial and ethnic preferences and corporate ascendance.

When traditional societies saw these tendencies becoming dominant in the hegemonic culture, they reacted, and the consequent resistance became a threat to universal acceptance of the new cultures. As in Sodom and Gomorrah, universal acceptance of perverted morality is violently demanded by the adherents, so war became inevitable.

A very good essay

Surprised he did not bolster it with Merkel’s and Hollande’s boasting as to their
deception concerning Minsk I and II preparing Ukraine for war not peace

He apportioned responsibility to Biden and Trump appropriately but makes the error
of taking Trump at his word rather than inspecting his actions more closely. Why did Trump very recently help Speaker Johnson send 61 USD to Ukraine if one wishes to take his rhetoric seriously.?
Friends and foes get Trump wrong still for 8 yrs because they focus on his empty words rather
than his all too often status quo actions

Disappointed but not surprised that he did not cite one of the best on this topic
for several decades-Patrick Joseph Buchanan

Apparently it is based on claims by a Bulgarian politician:

Bulgarian politician Paskov: Corporations from the United States demand not to bury the fighters of the Armed Forces on black soils

Which links to this article:

https://vz.ru/news/2024/8/2/1280323.html

translated:

“American multinational corporation BlackRock Financial Market Advisory and other companies demand that the Kiev regime not to bury the dead soldiers on the fertile Ukrainian black soil, said Bulgarian politician Flame Paskov.

Paskov on the air of the video blog “PolitExpert” said that BlackRock came and demanded from Kiev to stop urring fighters in a traditional way, because so they occupy “too much land,” reports RIA Novosti.

The company said that 47% of this land has already been purchased, he added.”

I found this well footnoted report from Feb. 2023 (18 month old)

War and Theft: The Takeover of Ukraine’s Agricultural Land

from this article:

War and Theft: The Takeover of Ukraine’s Agricultural Land

One year into the war, a new report reveals how oligarchs and financial interests are expanding control over Ukraine’s agricultural land with help and financing from Western financial institutions.

Aid provided to Ukraine in recent years has been tied to a drastic structural adjustment program requiring the creation of a land market through a law that leads to greater concentration of land in the hands of powerful interests.

Ukraine’s crippling debt is being leveraged by financial institutions to drive post-war reconstruction towards further privatization and liberalization in several sectors, including agriculture.

Zerohedge in April 2024 described the details about a Andrzej Duda interview on Luthuanian TV that appears to be memory holed, but the Substack essay is still available:

The Polish President Revealed That Foreign Companies Own Most Of Ukraine’s Industrial Agriculture

He [Duda] was explaining Poland’s problem with Ukrainian agricultural imports when he dropped the following bombshell:

“I would like to draw particular attention to industrial agriculture, which is not really run by Ukrainians, it is run by big companies from Western Europe, from the USA. If we look today at the owners of most of the land, they are not Ukrainian companies. This is a paradoxical situation, and no wonder that farmers are defending themselves, because they have invested in their farms in Poland […] and cheap agricultural produce coming from Ukraine is dramatically destructive to them.”

Duda represents what’s widely considered to be one of the most pro-American and anti-Russian governments at any time in history so he can’t credibly be accused of “pushing Kremlin propaganda”.

Jews weaponizing the FBI

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1821339848931721433

The Ukraine War Explained (Infographic)
https://www.jewworldorder.org/the-ukraine-war-explained-infographic/

PUTIN and ZELENSKY are JEWS and both couldn’t care less about the hundreds of thousands of Russian and Ukrainian Slav soldiers killed so far.
Putin plays his part in Klaus Schwab’s WEF with the introduction of the digital ID and CBDC in Russia to enslave the Russian people.

World War III and the break-up of Russia was planned by Chabad leader Rebbi Schneerson and explained in his 1994 speech.
Schneerson: “First of all, we will divide the Slavic nations (of 300 million, half of them Russians) into the small countries with weak and severed connections. For this, we will use our old method: Divide and conquer. We will try to pit these countries against each other, and suck them into civil wars for the sake of mutual destruction.”

That speech was simply the application of the TORAH to Ukraine, Russia and the world. TORAH: Jews should murder and enslave Goyim worldwide.

The Jewish Plot to Enslave Humanity
https://www.unz.com/article/the-jewish-plot-to-enslave-humanity/

This is why this “War” in Ukraine is going so badly for Russia: It seems that Chabad are directing THEIR War in Ukraine.
What has Putin’s Special Military Operation (SMO) started more than 2 years ago achieved so far? Nothing but hundreds of thousands of dead and wounded Slavs, Russian and Ukrainian soldiers and over 6 million refugees fleeing Ukraine are recorded across Europe.

Chabad are also ruling the US. Putin, Trump and Biden are all surrounded by Chabad.
Putin’s Rabbi, Berel Lazar, is Chabad.

Ukraine War — Chabad’s Strategy for Slavic Genocide
https://www.henrymakow.com/2022/08/russia-khazaria-ukraine.html

I think you can also add that Putin did not annex Georgia after going in and spanking them in 2008 (including a speed run to the capitol).

It’s sort of low hanging fruit to disagree with the most silly “Putin wants to conquer Eastern Europe” from the neocons. I would say the nexus of disagreement is around if Putin should have invaded Ukraine, nonetheless…yes with the NATO provocation. Also there is Crimea and the DPR and the now claimed four oblasts.

OF course you could also ask if JFK had started a nuclear war over the missiles in Cuba, if it was the USSR’s fault or his fault for how he (would have) reacted. Fortunately in that case, the Russians folded (and so did JFK with the Turkey missiles, later).

Biden and the Chickenhawks definitely pushed a line of thinking they could provoke Russia and it would not react. In some cases, they are sort of right (Russia is very careful about engaging US assets…imagine what we would do to ISR drones over the GOM helping an opponent of ours). But they probably pushed it a bit too far.

Then again the Donks don’t care. This is how lefty types like the Clintons who didn’t want to serve in VN can act tough. Typical chickenhawks. At lleast Russia and Ukraine are still heroic societies and will fight and die in trenches. Donks just watch their Marvel movies and have no clue about what it’s like to really serve. And no, Pete B. getting a momentary merit badge, along with his McKinsey stint does not count. That’s what they thing service actually is…a resume bullet. Love to have one of them as a plebe. I would haze the shit out of them. Cry, cry, cry. Oh…and a lot of the Pukes aren’t much better. Look at Lindsey girl. Or the grifters on Fox News.

Sometimes I think the ending to Stover at Yale was correct.

Ukraine is being prepped to become israel 2.0 It is no secret that most European jews HATE the middle east climate and culture, which despite European jewish incursion still has a distinct middle eastern flavor, something that European jews loath.
The climate and topography of Ukraine is more amenable to jews than present-day israel. Not only that, their criminal base of operations will be much closer to their “markets”. From international prostitution, pedophilia and child abduction to organ harvesting and sales, to reams of criminal financial schemes and scams, Ukraine is ideally located to keep the jewish criminal rackets going.
Jews are using their European and American lackeys to support the war in Ukraine against Russia.
The seeds of WW3 have been planted…

I think ensuring the Confederacy’s independence would have been more efficacious than the subversive plot you suggest.

The motive behind setting up Germany was a lot more genocidal than mere regime change, although these are not mutually exclusive concepts.

The people who now rule over America and Ukraine certainly want Russia under their thumb, and to some extent they have it. They scheme for control of the world and hijacking America has gone a long way towards that achievement. But, they’ve hijacked other places other times and inevitably failed.

Imho – our neo-con nitwits went into Ukraine to ” weaken Russia ” but as usual they only brought weakness to the U.S. and NATO.

The Europeans that hate Russia will keep hating Russia, others will realize that it is the United States that is screwing them and not Russia.

The EU and NATO are going to fall apart as the common folk going broke and freezing look for new political leadership.

If Orban plays his cards right he and Hungary will be leading Europe out of the cage of NATO.

Satanyahoo and Israel are dragging the U.S. and the U.K. into the quagmire against the Muslims which is going to go bad for everyone involved.

Israel is running out of troops! Israel’s economy is falling apart! Israel’s reputation is already gone! Israel needs war to survive.

Ukraine needs war to survive but the gravy train is drying up.

Are you willing to pay $20.00 to $50.00 a gallon for gasoline?

Our neo-cons do not care about us; they are insane!

FBI searched the home of former US intelligence officer and former UN inspector Scott Ritter, who lives in Delmar, New York. Unofficially: they rummaged through everything “from the basement to the attic”. FBI spokeswoman Sarah Ruane confirmed that a search had taken place, but did not disclose details.

She marked the reason for the search as a “federal investigation”, also without any details or clarifications. On June 6, Ritter stated that Washington did not want his participation in the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum, and that is why the FBI did not allow him to board the plane even though he had already purchased a ticket.

Two days earlier, he said he was scheduled to speak on two panels at SPIEF. At the same time, he assessed that the forum in St. Petersburg is a more significant event than the World Economic Forum, which is held in Davos, Switzerland.

Ritter is one of the sharpest and most perceptive critics of the US policy towards Ukraine and Russia. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov then assessed that not allowing Ritter to visit Russia “once again proves that the US has become a police state.” Despite the fact that Washington calls itself the leader of democracy.

Vladimir Zelensky and his wife Elena behave like “drunk millionaires”. As if their country is not in the middle of a war. It was revealed that she had bought an Italian winery from English singer Gordon Sumner, known by the stage name Sting.

The total amount of the transaction is EUR 75 million. The buyer company is directly related to Zelenski, and the beneficiary is Elena. The winery was founded in 1997 and was called Tenuta Del Palagio Wines. It is located in picturesque Tuscany.

Its vineyards cover 25 hectares. It produces fifteen different types of wine. About 130,000 bottles per year. The purchase and sale took place at a time when the Ukrainian leader was begging for money to support Ukraine at the G7 summit.

Stinky Vickie and the troglodyte Neocon hoard of course. Anyone who thinks otherwise either can’t read or doesn’t know what to read. As usual it was all about American money and how to steal it from the Government, a simple but effective plan that will in the end send murica to it’s grave and none too soon.

Who cares by now? Most seem to support one side being victorious and they won’t have their minds changed. Fuck the causes or who is right, it should end. Best way is for Russian Federation and Ukropians to finish the fight. Stop forced conscription, let those who wish to live their lives desert. The West can stop sending weapons, but they likely won’t, let Azov and Kraken and volunteers fight in stead of conscripts. Some people won’t want to stop fighting, let them have their valhalla, but end it soon. I think next year.

You state that NATO is a defensive alliance and poses no threat to Russia. That is incorrect because NATO is an offensive alliance (Yugoslavia, Libya and Afghanistan)

I date the start of British intervention in Russia back to 1551 and the incorporation in London of the Muscovy Company, designed to loot Russia. 100 plus years before the East India Company was incorporated to loot India, with more success.

The Ukraine will revert to its roots, a farm stand in the Polish Suburbs.

Shouldn’t the title just read “(((Who))) Caused the Ukraine War?”, as it’s obviously a purely rhetorical question?

The point of this article is to give unaware people a few tidbits to help them start to build a better understanding of the Ukraine-NATO-Russia conflict. At the moment, the number of Americans willing and able to sort this story out is small. There are plenty of people who might make a political difference here if they were only swayed a bit to becoming skeptical of the mainstream narrative. Mearsheimer is trying to do this without getting into falsifiable sound bites or more complex background questions.

Most Westerners cannot even imagine that Russia is not 110% at fault in this conflict, full stop. Therefore they are impregnable to the facts and a more realistic argument. One can hope that a modest article like this will open up a few cracks in the ideological encrustation of some people.

Do you know the original source for the claim about BlackRock?

Does anyone here know which Ukrainian and Russian oligarchs are most strongly connected to BlackRock?

https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/how-jewish-is-the-war-against-russia/

“That would make him a sharp geopolitical observer, and a courageous man, but a poor academic, even a fraud perhaps.”

I don’t see any contradiction here. I recently read The Tragedy of Great Power Politics and learned a lot despite not wanting to accept the concept of “offensive realism”. What Mearsheimer is doing is fighting the escalation that could easily lead to WWIII. It’s a moral and very wise choice on his part. What you’re observing isn’t a contradiction as much as the modern reality of nuclear weapons. Most leaders of countries with nukes are sane but with enough escalation, someone may well resort to the use of nuclear weapons. There are some other issues to consider such as the industry of war (which was probably addressed in at least one chapter) but there was enough to digest about great power politics without additional complications. The point is that the theory offers an elegant explanation of how great powers behave.

Apr 4, 2019 NATO EXIT: Prof. Michel Chossudovsky

NATO is a criminal entity, an instrument of the Pentagon. There is no “Alliance”. There is military Occupation.

https://youtu.be/649_HXyJPAg
Video Link

Who started it? Take your pick: Barack Obama manipulated by Victoria Nuland or Victoria Nuland manipulated by Barack Obama? Who invaded Syria? Yet Biden somehow inherited this from Trump.

It bears noting that Obama invented the concept of blaming the predecessor with the term “inherit”. You got the job you applied for, Buck-O, you didn’t inherit anything.

Slightly OT, are you aware the FBI is conducting a raid on Scott Ritter at his home?

Strange that commenter HA who spams virtually every comment thread on Sailer’s page regardless of topic with pro-Ukraine war commentary made 0 comments to this article so far. Or perhaps he submitted 0 that made it past the moderators?

Who Caused the Ukraine War?

The answer is hateful ZIONISM!

I do not know why – but most of the time, when I hear negative violent remarks pointed at “Putin/Russia” they come from Jews or those who are politically controlled by same.

Facts are facts — it is obvious that Zionists have a great tribal hate for Russia.

US European foreign policy (jewcentric) is rather simple– keep Russia out, keep Germany down, keep bureaucratic Brussels in control, and member states weak. Once you fundamentally understand this policy you’ll grasp the proxy war in Ukraine. You’ll also see how US disdain for Hungary and Slovakia fit neatly into this equation as they are not acting meek.

I’m replying to you because I think yours is the best reply I got; but all were good replies.
My position would be a ‘soft’ agree with all the objections you and the others make. By this I mean that I will probably have to think some more before having a solid opinion, but at the moment my tendency is to review my position.
A final note, however, would be that no one raised any objection against the last part of my comment. This is something I’ve been repeating for some time, and it seems I’m right, because no one seems to agree with Mearsheimer’s ‘offensive realism’ doctrine, and many people besides myself have pointed out the blatant contradictions between that doctrine and his positions regarding actual events of late.
That would make him a sharp geopolitical observer, and a courageous man, but a poor academic, even a fraud perhaps.

this war started because putin went into syria in 2012, to stop the zioneocon empire’s terrorist invasion, which threw a wrench into the greater israel project.

YEP!!! ONE of the BIG Reasons. Assad had to go! America and the Neocons were Pissed that Russia stepped in to prevent the Color Revolution in Syria!

This is exactly “Ms Nuland’s” War!

Gonzalo Lira — The Ukraine Thing is Jewish 3rd Rev.
https://www.academia.edu/74138569/

Well, it isn’t obvious that conquering all of Ukraine via installing a puppet government wasn’t the initial plan that didn’t exactly work out as planned.

It was fairly clear to me at the time that Putin had no intention of conquering the Ukraine, even for the limited purpose of installing a puppet government.

The initial Russian army of 150,000 was far, far too small to take Kiev, let alone the rest of the Ukraine.

Even if the Russians had overrun Kiev by sheer luck, they would have had to face the counterattack of the rest of the Ukrainian army, which at that time was nearly a million strong. No, the Russian forces were far, far too small to conquer all of the Ukraine.

To me, the movement towards Kiev was a diversion merely. Putin’s real goals were what we are seeing now, to liberate Donetsk and Luhansk, to protect Crimea, and to prevent the NATOization of Ukraine.

Who Caused the Ukraine War?

Jewish Supremacists

https://twitter.com/i/status/1821223064572506237

Who caused it?

The Rothschild crime syndicate, of course… but don’t you dare actually name them.

Trillionaires who daily play God, and have the morality of a Jewish land-thief in Palestine, that’s who run the Western world.

It’s not Soroš, it’s not Buffett, and it’s not bloody Elon Musk.

Whom do you think finances them? Their money had a point of origin.

A123, Germany is an occupied country and has been under Washington’s and Jewish control since 1945. Thousands of American troops are still stationed there. Nothing has changed since, except for millions of Black and Muslim invaders fleeing from countries to the South, who are taking over this once proud nation. It’s now weaker than it’s ever been. Witness, cucked Chancellor Scholz just standing there, mute, as the senile old man occupying the White House told the press that the US could blow up the Nordstream pipeline, which was theoretically under German control.

My point is that Merkel had no power to “single handedly tank the Minsk deal,” nor did Scholz “destroy the Istanbul arrangement.” The Ukraine War was an American, British, and Jewish operation from start to finish and the rest of decadent Western Euro countries are merely cheerleaders.

They control and own us lock stock and smoking barrel.

This essay is, of course, not exactly news at Unz. The facts presented will not convince the naysayers – they’re not interested. So, let’s look a little deeper, by asking the question: Why is this war between brother nations even possible? As a parallel – how was the American Civil War possible? And then let’s add World Wars 1 and 2 – are you getting the drift?
This is not exactly news either, but both secularists and churchians dismiss it as not believable or spiritual nonsense – DaSynagogue of Satan and its servants LOVE WAR! Who dey?
Let’s see the evidence, again by asking questions:
1- Who are the primary warmongers in America – in congress, business, religion, culture etc?
2- Who owns them all – literally bought and paid for? Do we need to go further?
What say we start here – https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2022/12/satans-wars-christians-killing.html?m=0 – that’s just a beginning, but it’ll do for now. Who are these bastahds that serve Satan?

English is our language, and we can call foreign cities and countries any name we want. We may or may not respect your wish to change the English name of a place. It’s our prerogative, not the foreigner’s.

. A closer relationship between Germany and Russia would render the American nuclear strategy useless.”

Clearly the destruction of Nordstream 2 was an attack on Germany. Germany was booming with the cheap source of gas and raw materials from Russia. There were many business and cultural exchanges. The US stopped that with one blow.

The conventional wisdom in the West is that Vladimir Putin is responsible for causing the Ukraine war.

The conventional wisdom here at TUR is that The Jews are responsible for causing the Ukraine war. The Jews provoked an invasion aimed at conquering all of Ukraine and making it part of a Greater Israel. Once this goal is achieved, the Jews will continue to expand their empire — The Empire of the Jews. Thus, Putin is ultimately a threat to the Jews and must be dealt with forcefully. In short, The Jews are imperialists with a master plan to rule the world, a plan which fits neatly into a grotesque Jewish messianic tradition.

FIRST, there is plenty of evidence from before 24 February 2022 that The Jews wanted to conquer Ukraine and incorporate it into Greater Israel. Jews such as the grotesque Kaganites, especially Nuland-the-Hutt, have been plotting for generations and are still hell-bent on conquering all of Ukraine — for the Jews.

SECOND, there is also plenty of evidence that The Jews installed a puppet government in Ukraine, all of them pro-Jew or outright-Jews, like Zelensky, in Kyiv. These Jew leaders then proceeded to attempt to kill the entire ethnic Russian population in the Ukraine and are now working on killing all the Ukranian goys as well.

THIRD, the Jews have plenty of goy cannon-fodder troops to die for them — the Jew objective is for as many Ukrainian and Russians to get killed as possible.

FOURTH, the Jews will shit on any diplomatic solution because, for the Jews, the crisis and the war and the killing IS the solution.

FIFTH, the Jews will never accept any negotiation on a modus vivendi between the alien Jews and the human race — the Jews only understand mors omni humano generi (“death to all of the human race”).

SIXTH, there is overwhelming evidence that The Jews are still contemplating conquering ALL countries in the world — and causing as much death and destruction as possible along the way.

SEVENTH, everyone knows The Jews have imperial ambitions from the unholy day they spawned onto the face of the earth right until the present moment. At that point did the Jews suddenly become an imperial aggressor? Since the dawn of history. Why? Because the Jews are an alien species hell-bent on conquering and destroying all of humanity.

…. the war has been a disaster for a variety of reasons, the most important of which is that Ukraine has effectively been wrecked.

An alien cyclops with glaucoma, familiar with the antics of the US, need not read the good professors essay to know who is responsible.

Lets see:
-Vietnam ? Wrecked and the war lost.
-Iraq ? Wrecked and the war lost.
-Afghanistan ? Wrecked and the war lost.

Ukraine is on the burner and Iran coming up. China and Russia loom on the horizon.

The Harvard and Yale boys escape one disaster in time for the next. The Amercans have elected the biggest bunch of fuckups to run the lemonade stand.

Agree, however they are comparable to the stupid sheep in the ZUS who went into the middle east to fight and die for zionist Israel and the zionist controlled ZUS regime and still are fighting and dying for the international zionist genociders of not only Palestine but our turn will come, the zionists want to genocide the goyim and they openly admit it in the Talmud.

Speaking of dumb people, most Americans do not realize that Israel and traitors in the ZUS did the attack on the WTC on 911 and blamed it on the muslims to give the ZUS the excuse to destroy the middle east for Israel and this destruction has been ongoing for decades, the Ukrainians are just like the American goyim, they are sent into the zionist meat grinder over and over and over again. there is no cure for stupid.

https://youtube.com/shorts/fiRg0VrkkvA

Another american war criminal: “We have heart. We have moral.”.

Its sickening how sick fucks american and british have always been, lacking even simple traits of human specie.

Hopefully, after the US presidential election, it will come out that US financial (and otherwise) involvement in Ukraine is essentially blackmail (by Zelensky) on President Biden for all the money he received through his son, Hunter, and Burisma, the Ukrainian Company that Hunter was on the Board of Directors for, for three years while Biden was vice president. That has been ignored.

The USA is basically responsible. Or rather, the Jews who run its government.

But isn’t it interesting how Christian Ukrainians fight and die for “New Israel”, concede control over their country by International Kosher Nosetra, tolerate corruption and plunder, and use them as doormats, toilet paper and battering rams at a brother Slav nation? What are they fighting for? I don’t thin they even know, but mouth slogans, bumper sticker blurbs, and fevered imagination and chimeras of thoughts implanted by Isreali Jews, acting as agents of Rothchild, Bloomberg, Fink, and the rest of the Gefilthy Fish.

They are the stupidest, sheep-like “White People” in the World.

This Mearsheimer does not pursue truth, he pursues a partisan agenda. He loves the Holocaust Tale and he loves Putin. In Mearsheimer’s mind Putin is flawless in every respect, completely without sin.

Most Russian Telegram channels consider Putin as the destroyer of Russia, either a crypto, or at least a tool of his Chabad Rabbi handler.

Since Mearsheimer will not mention the Jews ( for fear of the Jews) he cannot come to accurate conclusions. But what is Putin up to?

He is obviously executing the very long Jewish desire to conquer the Slavlands that previously were called Beyond the Pale of Settlement. It has nothing to do with old Khazaria, which was just one more nation that the Jews wrecked.

They were exiled Beyond The Pale, now with Putin’s help they begin the process of seizing it for a Jewish Homeland.

Putin and Zelensky are following exactly the same agenda. Wreck the place, depopulate it, fill it up with Muslims and Jews, under Jewish control. Then increase Jewish immigration. Make it the second Jewish Homeland.

Anybody able to think & know the players understands & knows it was a CIA Coup period end of story. Over complicating the facts & obfuscating/prevaricating anything other than facts is disingenuous & pseudo-intellectual doublespeak. Color revolution was CIA proxy op. CIA already knew Putin is/was not gong to give up his only Naval Fleet Mediterranean access port to defending Syria/Iran & “other” geopolitical interests. It’s getting beat to death & over analyzed at this point. Zewkraine is an obvious pre-staged conflict (a la Brzezinski/Kissinger/Bush Neo con mindset) using 4/6 GW testing ground.

Zionist’s & puppet Naziziolensky are cleaning out Ukrainian nationalist’s while BlackRock/State Street/Vanguard & it’s
Coterie cabal stand by for the re-development after the destruction. Out of the Ashes rises the Phoenix only to be reborn again & again. Zewkraine (Israhell 2.0) is the birthplace origin of Ashkenazi YIDDISH Tribe
aka Kharazarian Empire & Mafia. REFT & REAVE in the hundreds of Billion$ USD for the re-development. It’s a no-brainer.

George HW Bush promised Russia that NATO would not go one inch farther with NATO and then broke every promise and moved NATO closer and closer and then with the V. Nuland 5 Billion taxpayer funded coup in the Ukraine, set the Ukraine up for a civil war in the breakaway regions and the Ukraine killed some 16,000 civilians in the ensuing 10 years and this is what brought Russia in to stop the carnage, this is what caused the war.

The war in the Ukraine is another zionist war, just like all the wars the zionists have pushed America into starting with WWI , right down to the war in the Ukraine and zionist Israels genocide in Palestine, zionists are destroyers of nations and humanity.

June 27, 2024 Kosovo – Where the West took the US hegemonic path – and kept going  

Back in 1999 few people seemed to notice what had happened to NATO. Under the leadership of President Clinton and Tony Blair, it converted itself from a very successful defensive alliance into an organisation with the self-awarded power of pro active interventions around the world on behalf of an undefined “international community”. 

 http://freenations.net/kosovo-where-the-west-took-the-us-hegemonic-path-and-kept-going-by-edward-spalton/

The Zionists are behind the war in Ukraine.

They have scores to settle with Russia.

http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2015/03/17/the-truth-about-the-conflict-with-russia/

White Russians are not the enemy of white Americans.

The international bankers are the enemy of all white people on the planet.

It would make sense to start with Georgia. It is small and weak, and there’s lots of US meddling in Georgia while the government is not an American puppet regime. Starting with Ukraine in rebuilding the USSR makes no sense, especially waiting 8 years from 2014 to 2022 and letting Ukraine build up its forces before you invade.

Contemporary leaders of Kazakhstan have shown that they possess sound common sense, knowing that any fervent Islam would bring ruin as would any sell out to the West which means sell out to Anglo-Zionists and thus international Jewry. They also are fully appreciative of the Russian and other Indo-European peoples who live there. It would be stupid, even plain evil, for Russia to disrupt any of that.

The word ‘Ukraine’ means ‘borderland’ or frontier.’ Thus it always should be preceded a definite article: the Ukraine.

You seem to start from the premise that this ‘Ukraine’ is. real country with a real national history of its own. But the fact is that there was nation known as the Ukraine in 1900 or 1800 or 1700 or 1600 or 1500 or 1400 or 1300 or 1200 or 1100. Nor was there ever anything like a unified culture in those lands – hence they were borderlands.

Any actual ‘Ukrainian’ people are a minority of the peoples living in the Ukraine that the
West’ declared must be its own independent nation when the USSR fell. The Ukrainian language is best labelled an archaic, provincial, large rural dialect of Russian, with substantial flourishes of Polish from centuries of Polish-Lithuanian rule over parts of the geography. Snd that geography, that Ukraine that the West declared must be its own independent nation, was created by the USSR. The Ukraine that you see as having inviolable borders was created by the USSR. To the area that Russians labelled the Ukraine, to which had been affixed the city-state of Kiev, Lenin and then Stalin and then Krushchev all added territories. All those USSR moves were made precisely to try to make certain that Russian culture could never arise as a force from which to oppose Bolshevism.

If you wished to do what is best for all the peoples living in hat Ukraine, you would first have major trips formal the meanders of the fake country who acted, with Western backing, to slaughter many thousands of Russians forced top live under such rule. All of Novorassiya and the Crimea would be assigned to Russia. Kiev and environs would be allowed to vote on whether to join Russia or Belarus. Poland would be granted a section of old Galicia, and small parts would be added to Hungary, Slovakia,and Romania. Then remaining lands, which would compromise the true Ukraine, would then also be allowed to vote whether to be an independent country that could never join any military alliance or to join Russia, which has ruled it since before the USA was a country.

But the fact is that the Anglo-Zionist Empire is damned determined to make itself the ruler of the entire globe.

I would not rule out Russia annexing a good chunk of Kazakhstan in the future..

It is a different culture than Russian Orthodox Christian with a people of different identity and origins-generally. It is already part of the Russian Federation, which a functions fully well to encompass all relations, as it so happens with the over 180 ethnic groups and even more languages. Centralized control is a proven problem generator, whereas local government that is indigenous to the population is superior. The German duchies and smaller states should have remained so. The same with Italy.