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    Introduction First of all I would like to point out that it is not just Jewish machinations that backfire, but this may be the tendency of conspiracy in general. Several things may be at play. The law of unintended consequences. Blowback. Paybacks. Or perhaps simply karma and the laws of the universe which tend to...
  • @Robert Lindsay
    @wzy

    Thank you. This is sort of what I am saying in the article, correct. I just won't phrase it that way because I'm trying to talk about Jews in a nice, nonracist, guarded, and soft-spoken way. I have enough of a reputation as an antisemite as it is. I don't need to use inflammatory language to make it all the worse.


    who work to dominate any culture where they are tolerated
     
    I'm not sure about that part. They were doing this 100 years ago for sure, when Ford was writing and at that time, hardcore antisemitism was the only appropriate response. This is the sad part. When Jews wage ethnic warfare, the only sane response is antisemitism. If you don't go antisemitism, you get steamrolled by the Jews, they get all the marbles and win, and you get none and you lose. It's fight and go racist or die. This is another way that Jews literally cause antisemitism.

    I'm actually pro-Jewish. I want Jews to stop doing this crap. I think it's bad for the Jews because it causes antisemitism. If they knocked a lot of this off, they'd still get a lot of power and money. It pains me to see Jews acting bad because they're just creating hatred for themselves. Also it pains me the same way as if a loved one like a brother or a sister acts bad. You're angry at them but you're also heartbroken because you expected better. I want Jews to be better behaved. That's the purpose of a lot of my articles as a slight Judeophile.

    Instead of dominate I would say that they are incredibly paranoid and want to stop the formation of antisemitic society at all costs. This drives so much Jewish behavior! Pure paranoia and a desire to stop the enemy in his tracks before he gets started.

    they get a little crazy, being essentially a race of hysterical females, and as a result they run the society they conspire against straight off a cliff.
     
    I don't think they run society off a cliff. I think they end up pointing a gun right at themselves when their incessant conspiracies backfire and boomerang right back on them! Yes, Jews are basically feminine, I'm afraid. "Emotionally reactive" simply means feminine. We men call it "flake." Women are as smart as we are but logic is not their strong suit. Intuition is. Otto Weininger felt the Jewish character was basically feminine in his magnum opus, Sex and Character.

    But it’s not like they can help it because they’re just operating on instinct and they don’t even know why they do what they do half the time. Jews are gonna Jew, that’s all.
     
    Yes!

    If there’s no reasoning with the Jew, no way to prevent or mute his instinct for subversion,
     
    Yes!


    and no practical limit to the collateral damage his scheming may cause…
     
    I don't know about this part though all conspiracies can blow back. My main concern is it boomerangs right back on them.

    This all just sounds like a very good reason to have a real Holocaust.

    Well, for sure I don't agree with this part one bit. Jews are guilty of acting like a bunch of assholes, bottom line. That's why people don't tend to cotton to them much to put it mildly. However, being an asshole isn't against the law yet. But don't worry. The feminists are working on it! It's not a misdemeanor. Hell, it's not even a citation like a parking ticket. You're going to kill people for acting like dicks? You'd have to kill 1 billion humans minimum, maybe more.

    I agree with you that Jews will continue to be a problem with this behavior.

    However, there is a solution and that is to get Jew-wise. A Jew-wise society cynical about the Jews and expecting little of them is the greatest inoculation against the machinations of the Jews that I can think of. Just keep blowing the whistle on their conniving and plotting, call it what it is or name of the Jew if you prefer, and people can either go along or not. In a Jew-wise society, most people will ignore the conspiracy-trick and refuse to go along. So their plans are thwarted before they start.

    Society would have to go antisemitic for this to happen, but a bit of antisemitism is likely to cause little harm to Jews.

    I like a bit of antisemitism myself. I stir some into my coffee every morning. It helps with the taste, gives the brew a jolt of awakening, and helps me to make sense of the world I will deal with outside that day. It's another one of those things where if you plug into your reality, a lot of dead light bulbs start lighting up again and mysterious things start clarifying.

    Replies: @Wild Man, @Anon

    Hmm if Jews are basically feminine, why would they excel at math and physics?

    The men are autistically masculine, not brutish stereotypically masculine. Both on the male brain spectrum.

  • I believe a lot of Jews (but certainly not all) rather bad in certain ways. Yet we all know Jews who don’t fit the stereotype, including all the Jews I grew up who were friends of my Judeophilic family. I also had some Jewish friends as a young man. The thing is that I never...
  • Anonymous[321] • Disclaimer says:

    Netanyahu for all his faults is probably one of the smartest world leaders. Reportedly has an IQ around 140-150, graduate of MIT. While secular and reform Jews earn more than Orthodox Jews (as you call them, unassimilated), Orthodox Jews still earn more than non-Jewish Americans. There is no world in which being Jewish is an unhealthy thing. They’re doing just fine, much to the annoyance of antisemites everywhere.

  • Anonymous[321] • Disclaimer says:

    “Being purely Jewish doesn’t seem like a healthy thing”

    Then why are full Jews more successful and earn more money than non-Jews? Why is Israel one of the happiest countries (second happiest for youth) in the world? Why does Israel have higher birth rates (even secular Israelis have higher birth rates) than Western countries that are experiencing a birth rate collapse? Clearly Judaism and religion in general can be very good for people. Jewish culture also encourages education. There are not many things non-Jewish whites are superior at besides not having as many genetic diseases and being better at brawling.

  • Jews don’t own the media. 25-30 years ago you could say that, but it’s not true anymore. I did a deep analysis of the US media recently looking for the extent of Jewish ownership and came away a bit chagrined as the default hypothesis was one of Jewish ownership. Turns out they definitely own a...
  • “My analysis found that a typical huge media corporation nowadays might have at its top two executives one Jew and one Gentile. Having half the top positions is control? Forget it. We may as well say that Gentiles control that corporation.”

    HELLO?? Per capita calling….

  • I believe a lot of Jews (but certainly not all) rather bad in certain ways. Yet we all know Jews who don’t fit the stereotype, including all the Jews I grew up who were friends of my Judeophilic family. I also had some Jewish friends as a young man. The thing is that I never...
  • Anon[128] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robert Lindsay
    @R.G. Camara

    I guess I mean I just don't see all those Happy Merchant type negative Jewish stereotypes in Jewish women. One of the main features of Jews is aggression. Even my Judeophilic family laughed and called Jews loud, rude, obnoxious. They just thought it was funny. My sister had a best friend who was Jewish. I met her a number of times. Very smart chick, super brainy and extremely nice. She was flirting with me one time and I should have gone for it except for her being my sister's friend. She didn't seem all that loose at all, maybe brainy and nerdy.

    Her Jewish family was nuts though. Every night at dinner they would have these wild arguments about this or that and people would storm out of the room leaving their meals unfinished. I guess they would eat them later on. Then not long after they all acted like nothing happened and were friendly to each other.

    Thank you. How could we test your theory about inbreeding creating all of these characteristics? It's certainly interesting but how do we test it out? How bout comparing them to other inbred groups and seeing if there things you talk about are present in them too.

    Only dated one Jewish woman. She was pretty horny but not excessively so and there were definitely things she wouldn't do that a lot of other women might.

    Also statistics don't bear you out. Both Jewish men and women lose their virginity latest out of any group. They also have the highest IQ's. The link between high IQ and late losing virginity is robust.

    There is also a link between high IQ and low testosterone, poor athleticism, less hedonistic lifestyle, lower numbers of sex partners and in the men, even lack of success with women, especially when young. The stereotype of the brainy, unmasculine, uncoordinated and nonathletic, socially awkward, introverted, cautious, neurotic, unsocializing nerd is well and true, all tied in with low testosterone, and robust across the literature.

    It works in the other direction, so the stereotype of the dull, uncaring, careless, impulsive, incautious extroverted, socially smooth, non-neurotic, athletic guy who bangs all the girls and loses his virginity early with higher testosterone is also robust.

    I knew a couple of other Jewish quite well. Neither was all that pretty and they were not loose at all. Rather reserved actually. One was a nerd, really smart chick but not cute at all. She always liked me but she wasn't pretty so I blew her off. She dropped me off at my apartment late one night and I knew I could have invited her in. She was an extremely nice person though, exceedingly nice, very passive, shy, etc. Not aggressive at all. The other one was also exceeding nice.

    A common trait among Jews is aggression. However it's mostly the men who come across as loud, pushy, obnoxious, unpleasant, rude, in your face, "the loudmouthed Jew" or "the a-hole Jew" stereotypes. Some of the Jews in academia or business even appear "thuggish" and somewhat sociopathic.

    However, these traits seem absent from Jewish women. I think Jewish men are like this due to the tremendous pressure to succeed that leaves them with a terror of failure hanging over their heads their whole lives. The demand for success at all costs logically would create a pretty aggressive man.

    Replies: @Katrinka, @Anon

    LOL Jews not hedonistic? Why did they run the porn business back in the day? I don’t buy your high IQ low hedonism argument. High IQ usually correlates with liberalism and openness to experience.

    Maybe your stats are true for US Jews but I’ve seen stats before that show that Israelis lose their virginity at a younger age compared to other countries. Israeli Jews are more masculine than American Jews.

  • Jews don’t own the media. 25-30 years ago you could say that, but it’s not true anymore. I did a deep analysis of the US media recently looking for the extent of Jewish ownership and came away a bit chagrined as the default hypothesis was one of Jewish ownership. Turns out they definitely own a...
  • Here is the raw data for my figures above contradicting Ron’s comment about Jewish control of the US media. I do not agree with him that Jews control the US media. However, they do have a great deal of power in the US to the extent that they may “effectively control” it in a sense. Also it seems that Jewish media control and power in the US is collapsing. In 1995 in the book Jewish Power, the Jewish author said that 59% of the top positions in US media were manned by Jews. Now it is down to 23%, my figure here.

    Google/Alphabet I didn’t consider them media. Maybe social media?

    Facebook/Meta I considered them social media.

    Comcast/NBC Actually 1 Jew, 1 Gentile.
    Brian L. Roberts (chairman & CEO)
    Michael J. Cavanagh (president)

    NBCUniversal, includes MSNBC: 1 Jew, 1 Gentile.
    Mike Cavanagh (president, Comcast)
    Bonnie Hammer (vice chairman)

    Paramount/CBS 1 Jew, 1 Gentile.
    Shari Redstone (chairwoman)
    Chris McCarthy (interim principal executive officer)

    CBS itself: 4 Gentiles, 1 Jewish.
    George Cheeks (President and CEO, CBS Entertainment Group)
    Amy Reisenbach (President, CBS Entertainment)
    David Berson (President and CEO, CBS Sports)
    Ingrid Ciprián-Matthews (President, CBS News)
    Wendy McMahon (President and CEO, CBS News and Stations)

    Fox (Non-Jewish) 3 Gentiles
    Rupert Murdoch (Chairman emeritus)
    Lachlan Murdoch (Chairman and CEO)
    John P. Nallen (COO)

    Fox Broadcasting Company 3 Gentiles, 1 Jew
    Founders Rupert Murdoch and Barry Diller
    Rob Wade (President and CEO, Fox Entertainment)
    Michael Thorn (President, Fox Broadcasting Company Entertainment)

    New York Times 2 Jews, 2 Gentiles
    Publisher A. G. Sulzberger
    Editor-in-chief Joseph Kahn
    Managing editors Marc Lacey and Carolyn Ryan

    Los Angeles Times: 1 Gentile.
    President Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong

    Chicago Tribune: 5 Gentiles.
    Editor-in-chief Mitch Pugh
    General manager Par Ridder
    Opinion editor Chris Jones
    Sports editor Amanda Kaschube
    Photo editor Todd Panagopoulos

    Washington Post: Owned by Gentile Bezos, Gentile.
    Paper itself: 2 Gentiles.
    Publisher William Lewis
    Editor-in-chief Matt Murray

    Boston Globe: 3 Gentiles.
    Publisher John W. Henry
    Editor Nancy Barnes
    Opinion editor James Dao

    San Fransisco Chronicle: 1 Gentile.
    Publisher Bill Nagel

    Wall Street Journal: 5 Gentiles.
    Publisher Almar Latour
    Editor-in-chief Emma Tucker
    Deputy editor Charles Forelle
    Managing editor Liz Harris
    Opinion editor Paul A. Gigot

    Time magazine: Jewish owned since 2018.
    Marc Benioff, owner
    Before that owned by Gentile Meredith.
    Editor in chief: Gentile.
    Editor-in-chief Sam Jacobs

    Newsweek: 2 Gentiles.
    Dev Pragad, President and CEO
    Editor-in-chief Nancy Cooper

    US News and World Report: Jewish owned.
    Mortimer Zuckerman, owner
    Top people: 2 Jews, 1 Gentile (classic old style Jewish media corporation).
    Eric Gertler (CEO)
    Bill Holiber (President)
    Dafna Linzner (Editorial Director)

    Bloomberg LTD.: 3 Jews, 1 Gentile (classic old style Jewish media corporation)
    Founders: Michael Bloomberg, Thomas Secunda, Duncan MacMillan, Charles Zegar

    Key people: 3 Gentiles.
    Mark Carney (chair)
    Vladimir Kliatchko (CEO)
    Jean-Paul Zammitt (president)

    USA Today: 1 Gentile.
    Publisher and President: Maribel Perez Wadsworth

    Meredith Corporation: 2 Gentiles.
    Steve Lacy (Executive Chairman)
    Tom Harty (President and CEO)

    Gray Television: 2 Gentiles.
    Hilton H Howell, Jr. (executive chairman, CEO)
    Pat LaPlatney (president, co-CEO)

    Disney: 1 Jew, 1 Gentile. Mostly just Hollywood and movies.
    Mark Parker (chairman)
    Bob Iger (CEO)

    ABC: 2 Gentiles.
    Dana Walden
    Craig Erwich

    Warner Brothers Discovery: 1 Jew, 1 Gentile.
    Samuel DiPiazza (chairman)
    David Zaslav (president and CEO)

    CNN itself: 7 Gentiles. One woman is married to a Jew.
    Sir Mark Thompson (Chairman and CEO)
    David Leavy (COO)
    Michael Bass (EVP of Programming, CNN-US)
    Brad Ferrer (EVP/CFO)
    Amy Entelis (EVP)[1]
    Ken Jautz (EVP, CNN-US and HLN)
    Andrew Morse (EVP/Chief Digital Officer)

    IAC: Very Jewish, but not a news corporation.

    Associated Press: 2 Gentiles.
    Steven R. Swartz (chairman)
    Daisy Veerasingham (president and chief executive officer)

    Hearst Corporation: 3 Gentiles
    William Randolph Hearst III (chairman)
    Frank A. Bennack Jr. (executive vice chairman)
    Steve Swartz (president and CEO)

    Totals: Top positions in US media
    Jews 16 or 23%
    Gentiles 54 or 77%

    I find it hard to argue that Jews control the media when Gentiles have 77% of the top positions. However, Jews are 2.5% of the population. They should have at most 2 of the top 70 positions. Instead, they have 16, so at 23% they are represented at fully 10 TIMES their numbers in the population.

  • @Robert Lindsay
    @Utopian Dreams

    I don't know much about the Federal Reserve Board but I don't understand how what (((Alan Greenspan))) (may his name be cursed) does benefits Jewish people over any other group. Want to clue me in.

    The (((Rothschilds))) (may a curse be upon their name for all of time) are not that big in banking anymore. Even in Europe alone there are much bigger names in banking. Most banking is out of the city of London where it's all financialized and I do not believe particularly Jewish, and Germany, where it's all run by former Nazis and their ancestors.

    I was curious about this "Jews run the banks" thing. I looked up the Top 30 or 50 banks in the world and went through the names. A lot were out of Germany, a few out of New York, some in London and a whole lot out of Asia. Actually world banking was concentrated more in Asia now than anywhere else.

    Yeah Jews used to run the banks in Europe. And partly as a consequence of that, a thing called the Holocaust happened and wa-la! Automagically the Jews didn't own the banks anymore! Isn't that amazing?

    Most of the big US commercial chain banks whose names you see on your credit cards are not run by Jews. If you go to Europe, the banks on your credit cards are not run by Jews. If you go to Asia, no banks are run by Jews and they're all run by Asians in Hong Kong and Singapore.

    Look, I've been studying this for 20 years. But one day I heard David Duke say, "The Jews never ran the banks in the US and they don't even run them in the world anymore." Now Duke is a bad person but mostly just an idiot, a racist and an antisemite, but I do like one thing about him. He is scrupulously honest when it comes to history.

    And when history goes against his White Supremacist bullshit, he comes right out and says it. Duke also said the Jews took over the press and Hollywood in a coordinated action not to be the octopus that controls the world but because they were paranoid that that racist papers and Hollywood would go beyond it's standard racism and become antisemitic.

    Jews are not stupid and a lot of times they're dead on honest. Jews know that every time a bunch of White people get together and say, "Go Whites!" or some White nation gets nationalist and says, "Go White nation!" it won't be long before they somehow figure out a way to go after the Jews. Hence as the White Supremacists note, Jews are very hostile to their movement. That's why. They're all suspicious if not hostile to all nationalist movements in White countries. That's why.

    Duke said in the 1880's, Jews were getting alarmed at how racist the media was. I have read Californian and national papers extensively from 1850-1880 as part of a job I was doing working for an Indian tribe. Let me tell you, the US press was insanely racist in those days. Like off the charts racist. Against Blacks (niggers), Indians, South Indians (Hindoos), and Polynesians (kanakas). They thought none of these people should have the right to vote. They didn't like the Chinese either.

    The Jews got alarmed at these racist papers and figured they would go after the Jews sooner or later so the Jews bought the New York Times as a result of an actual conspiracy. The conspiracy expanded over the next 20-30 years where they bought up much of the newspapers in the US (except the Dearborn Independent LOL).

    He said Jews were very alarmed at the success of Birth of a Nation and hatched a conspiracy to buy up Hollywood, and within 10 years five Jews from a 50 mile radius in Galicia had bought up all of Hollywood.

    The Jews bought up the media and Hollywood to keep it out of the hands of the antisemites. This paranoia actually motivates a lot of their behavior. They didn't do it to be the Octopus and control the world and there is no Jewish world or national agenda anyway other than Israel and antisemitism, the only two things they can agree on. So they use Hollywood and the media to promote Israel and fight antisemitism and for no other reason.

    What on Earth does Warren Buffet have to do with the Jews?

    Almost all of those companies who demanded pulled their advertisements from Musk's Twitter were run by Gentiles. Gentile corporate America doesn't dig antisemitism. Now you riddle me that. Any racist anything gets its payment systems and use of credit cards cut off because it's racist, not because it's anti-Jewish.


    Are you downplaying the truth to sound more like a normie or a blue-pill? Or less like the raging antisemite every gentile should be if they knew the truth about Jewish nature?
     
    Obviously there is some truth to this, and good job reading my mind. Congrats. On the other hand, I believe in what I am writing here. 30 years ago, Jews had very serious control over the media. Now, in 2024, this control has diminished significantly. It went from 59% in 1996 to at most 41% (Hollywood and media combined) and surely less because Hollywood is way more Jewish than the media.

    I've been studying the issue for 20 years and this is what I have found. The Gentile-run media is just as pro-Israel as the Jewish media. Now you riddle me that. Also I saw papers go from Jewish to Gentile control and vice versa and the Israel reporting stayed the same. I thought, "There's a lot more to this pro-Israel stuff than "Jewish control." That's why I wrote this piece. If Jewish control doesn't explain the pro-Israel bias, what does?

    Replies: @Corrupt, @John Wear

    You write: “Now Duke is a bad person but mostly just an idiot, a racist and an antisemite, but I do like one thing about him. He is scrupulously honest when it comes to history.”

    My response: David Duke is certainly not a saint, but I don’t consider him to be a bad person. He is much more of a scholar than most people give him credit for.

    If anyone has an interest, you can listen to David Duke’s debate with Alex Jones at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPa1wLvCovE.
    Video Link

    A good short interview of David Duke with Wolf Blitzer is at https://vimeo.com/34646600.

    Finally, I do recommend David Duke’s book “Jewish Supremacism.” This book is a good introduction to the Zionist/Jewish control of our society.

  • @Robert Lindsay
    @Utopian Dreams

    I don't know much about the Federal Reserve Board but I don't understand how what (((Alan Greenspan))) (may his name be cursed) does benefits Jewish people over any other group. Want to clue me in.

    The (((Rothschilds))) (may a curse be upon their name for all of time) are not that big in banking anymore. Even in Europe alone there are much bigger names in banking. Most banking is out of the city of London where it's all financialized and I do not believe particularly Jewish, and Germany, where it's all run by former Nazis and their ancestors.

    I was curious about this "Jews run the banks" thing. I looked up the Top 30 or 50 banks in the world and went through the names. A lot were out of Germany, a few out of New York, some in London and a whole lot out of Asia. Actually world banking was concentrated more in Asia now than anywhere else.

    Yeah Jews used to run the banks in Europe. And partly as a consequence of that, a thing called the Holocaust happened and wa-la! Automagically the Jews didn't own the banks anymore! Isn't that amazing?

    Most of the big US commercial chain banks whose names you see on your credit cards are not run by Jews. If you go to Europe, the banks on your credit cards are not run by Jews. If you go to Asia, no banks are run by Jews and they're all run by Asians in Hong Kong and Singapore.

    Look, I've been studying this for 20 years. But one day I heard David Duke say, "The Jews never ran the banks in the US and they don't even run them in the world anymore." Now Duke is a bad person but mostly just an idiot, a racist and an antisemite, but I do like one thing about him. He is scrupulously honest when it comes to history.

    And when history goes against his White Supremacist bullshit, he comes right out and says it. Duke also said the Jews took over the press and Hollywood in a coordinated action not to be the octopus that controls the world but because they were paranoid that that racist papers and Hollywood would go beyond it's standard racism and become antisemitic.

    Jews are not stupid and a lot of times they're dead on honest. Jews know that every time a bunch of White people get together and say, "Go Whites!" or some White nation gets nationalist and says, "Go White nation!" it won't be long before they somehow figure out a way to go after the Jews. Hence as the White Supremacists note, Jews are very hostile to their movement. That's why. They're all suspicious if not hostile to all nationalist movements in White countries. That's why.

    Duke said in the 1880's, Jews were getting alarmed at how racist the media was. I have read Californian and national papers extensively from 1850-1880 as part of a job I was doing working for an Indian tribe. Let me tell you, the US press was insanely racist in those days. Like off the charts racist. Against Blacks (niggers), Indians, South Indians (Hindoos), and Polynesians (kanakas). They thought none of these people should have the right to vote. They didn't like the Chinese either.

    The Jews got alarmed at these racist papers and figured they would go after the Jews sooner or later so the Jews bought the New York Times as a result of an actual conspiracy. The conspiracy expanded over the next 20-30 years where they bought up much of the newspapers in the US (except the Dearborn Independent LOL).

    He said Jews were very alarmed at the success of Birth of a Nation and hatched a conspiracy to buy up Hollywood, and within 10 years five Jews from a 50 mile radius in Galicia had bought up all of Hollywood.

    The Jews bought up the media and Hollywood to keep it out of the hands of the antisemites. This paranoia actually motivates a lot of their behavior. They didn't do it to be the Octopus and control the world and there is no Jewish world or national agenda anyway other than Israel and antisemitism, the only two things they can agree on. So they use Hollywood and the media to promote Israel and fight antisemitism and for no other reason.

    What on Earth does Warren Buffet have to do with the Jews?

    Almost all of those companies who demanded pulled their advertisements from Musk's Twitter were run by Gentiles. Gentile corporate America doesn't dig antisemitism. Now you riddle me that. Any racist anything gets its payment systems and use of credit cards cut off because it's racist, not because it's anti-Jewish.


    Are you downplaying the truth to sound more like a normie or a blue-pill? Or less like the raging antisemite every gentile should be if they knew the truth about Jewish nature?
     
    Obviously there is some truth to this, and good job reading my mind. Congrats. On the other hand, I believe in what I am writing here. 30 years ago, Jews had very serious control over the media. Now, in 2024, this control has diminished significantly. It went from 59% in 1996 to at most 41% (Hollywood and media combined) and surely less because Hollywood is way more Jewish than the media.

    I've been studying the issue for 20 years and this is what I have found. The Gentile-run media is just as pro-Israel as the Jewish media. Now you riddle me that. Also I saw papers go from Jewish to Gentile control and vice versa and the Israel reporting stayed the same. I thought, "There's a lot more to this pro-Israel stuff than "Jewish control." That's why I wrote this piece. If Jewish control doesn't explain the pro-Israel bias, what does?

    Replies: @Corrupt, @John Wear

    At least two of the top 8 US banks have jew CEO’s (25% is disproportionate to their numbers). Another two CEO’s aren’t jews, but might as well be given their actions. 50% jew or heavily jew influenced CEO’s means at least 50% of US banking is controlled by jews, not to mention companies like Black Rock and Schwab, plus all the cabinet, executive and fed positions held by jews. Such corruption should not be allowed.

  • @TrumpWon
    This seems like it was written by an intern at the ADL.

    Jew or Crypto-Jew makes no difference and to claim that the media isn't under Jewish control is to simply ignore and discount who runs (not merely who OWNS) all of the mega corporations. META owns roughly 2/3 of "social media" and it is not just OWNED by but also RAN by a Jew. That's 2/3 of the discourse on the internet under solid control. What else - TV? You want to talk about the big networks? Mostly Jewish executive teams. Vastly disproportionate. Go look at the roster of any media corporation or masthead of any newspaper or magazine board, and its vastly vastly overrepresented by Jews. There should be 1 per 50, so basically at most executive teams you'd expect to see ZERO, since they don't even have 50 people total on the executive team. Instead, its like half. Or roughly 50x to 100x as many as expected.

    Replies: @Robert Lindsay

    What else – TV? You want to talk about the big networks? Mostly Jewish executive teams.

    That’s false. My research found that.

    Sure they’re overrepresented. Of course they are. But it’s not a case of “most” at all. A lot of the time you have two people at the very top, often one Jew and one Gentile. That’s not “most.” However, as I noted these corporations, while not necessarily run by Jews or having “mostly” Jewish anything, are nevertheless stacked top to bottom with Jews.

    There are so many Jews, yes over-represented vastly, that they may exercise “effective control.” As a commenter above noted, if an executive board has six Christians and nine seculars, the board is effectively controlled by Christians. At least the seculars are not going to say anything to upset them, so anti-Christian anything is off the table. That’s “effective control.”

    My research showed Jews didn’t run the media anymore. I think there are only two old style Jewish-run corporations where most if not all of the top management is Jewish. 30 years ago, there were a number of them. The classic old style Jewish-run corporation of the old days (often a family enterprise) is headed out and these are now just gigantic faceless and maybe mindless corporations who change hands every few years and get entirely new owners and management.

    Nevertheless, despite the lack of Jewish control, the media is still wildly pro-Israel. What’s up with that? I could not explain that and this sent me on my journey. It’s seems the pro-Israel bias is about something more than pure Jewish control. I feel that the old style Gentile Establishment of the US (boomers and Gen X’ers) is very pro-Jewish and extremely pro-Israel. That’s just the way it is. New generations will form a new Establishment that may be more Jewish-critical instead of fawningly Judeophilic and will probably be quite critical of Israel.

    The main thing that explains pro and anti-Israel bias in the US is age. The Gen X’ers and Boomers and any Silents and Greatest that are still with us are very pro-Israel basically out of habit. I was myself until age 43. Then I realized that the media and Establishment had been lying to me for 43 years and it really pissed me off. I dove into a black hole of research on the Israel/Palestine question and was amazed at all the information that had been kept from me. And I’m very intelligent, with an advanced degree and extremely widely read and self-educated. And they even fooled me.

    Millennials and Gen Z is much less pro-Israel and in some respects is even anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian.

    Age explains opinions on this issue more than any other factor.

  • @anon
    The Jews control Congress... they are W_ to their funders. How else do you explain a $4 billion dollar a year standard contribution to Israel...every yr for the past 20 yrs + ?

    Replies: @Robert Lindsay

    The piece is about Jewish media control, not Jewish control of the US state on a couple of issues only.

  • @Utopian Dreams
    Jews don't exercise major influence in banking? So you're just going to ignore the entire history of the Federal Reserve? The Rothschild family? Warren Buffett?
    Seriously? Even in a world where you can't contradict the ADL and still process credit card payments?
    Are you downplaying the truth to sound more like a normie or a blue-pill? Or less like the raging antisemite every gentile should be if they knew the truth about Jewish nature?
    ...
    You also completely gloss over the issue of Judeo-Masonry.
    Still, decent article, to be fair.

    Replies: @Robert Lindsay

    I don’t know much about the Federal Reserve Board but I don’t understand how what (((Alan Greenspan))) (may his name be cursed) does benefits Jewish people over any other group. Want to clue me in.

    The (((Rothschilds))) (may a curse be upon their name for all of time) are not that big in banking anymore. Even in Europe alone there are much bigger names in banking. Most banking is out of the city of London where it’s all financialized and I do not believe particularly Jewish, and Germany, where it’s all run by former Nazis and their ancestors.

    I was curious about this “Jews run the banks” thing. I looked up the Top 30 or 50 banks in the world and went through the names. A lot were out of Germany, a few out of New York, some in London and a whole lot out of Asia. Actually world banking was concentrated more in Asia now than anywhere else.

    Yeah Jews used to run the banks in Europe. And partly as a consequence of that, a thing called the Holocaust happened and wa-la! Automagically the Jews didn’t own the banks anymore! Isn’t that amazing?

    Most of the big US commercial chain banks whose names you see on your credit cards are not run by Jews. If you go to Europe, the banks on your credit cards are not run by Jews. If you go to Asia, no banks are run by Jews and they’re all run by Asians in Hong Kong and Singapore.

    Look, I’ve been studying this for 20 years. But one day I heard David Duke say, “The Jews never ran the banks in the US and they don’t even run them in the world anymore.” Now Duke is a bad person but mostly just an idiot, a racist and an antisemite, but I do like one thing about him. He is scrupulously honest when it comes to history.

    And when history goes against his White Supremacist bullshit, he comes right out and says it. Duke also said the Jews took over the press and Hollywood in a coordinated action not to be the octopus that controls the world but because they were paranoid that that racist papers and Hollywood would go beyond it’s standard racism and become antisemitic.

    Jews are not stupid and a lot of times they’re dead on honest. Jews know that every time a bunch of White people get together and say, “Go Whites!” or some White nation gets nationalist and says, “Go White nation!” it won’t be long before they somehow figure out a way to go after the Jews. Hence as the White Supremacists note, Jews are very hostile to their movement. That’s why. They’re all suspicious if not hostile to all nationalist movements in White countries. That’s why.

    Duke said in the 1880’s, Jews were getting alarmed at how racist the media was. I have read Californian and national papers extensively from 1850-1880 as part of a job I was doing working for an Indian tribe. Let me tell you, the US press was insanely racist in those days. Like off the charts racist. Against Blacks (niggers), Indians, South Indians (Hindoos), and Polynesians (kanakas). They thought none of these people should have the right to vote. They didn’t like the Chinese either.

    The Jews got alarmed at these racist papers and figured they would go after the Jews sooner or later so the Jews bought the New York Times as a result of an actual conspiracy. The conspiracy expanded over the next 20-30 years where they bought up much of the newspapers in the US (except the Dearborn Independent LOL).

    He said Jews were very alarmed at the success of Birth of a Nation and hatched a conspiracy to buy up Hollywood, and within 10 years five Jews from a 50 mile radius in Galicia had bought up all of Hollywood.

    The Jews bought up the media and Hollywood to keep it out of the hands of the antisemites. This paranoia actually motivates a lot of their behavior. They didn’t do it to be the Octopus and control the world and there is no Jewish world or national agenda anyway other than Israel and antisemitism, the only two things they can agree on. So they use Hollywood and the media to promote Israel and fight antisemitism and for no other reason.

    What on Earth does Warren Buffet have to do with the Jews?

    Almost all of those companies who demanded pulled their advertisements from Musk’s Twitter were run by Gentiles. Gentile corporate America doesn’t dig antisemitism. Now you riddle me that. Any racist anything gets its payment systems and use of credit cards cut off because it’s racist, not because it’s anti-Jewish.

    Are you downplaying the truth to sound more like a normie or a blue-pill? Or less like the raging antisemite every gentile should be if they knew the truth about Jewish nature?

    Obviously there is some truth to this, and good job reading my mind. Congrats. On the other hand, I believe in what I am writing here. 30 years ago, Jews had very serious control over the media. Now, in 2024, this control has diminished significantly. It went from 59% in 1996 to at most 41% (Hollywood and media combined) and surely less because Hollywood is way more Jewish than the media.

    I’ve been studying the issue for 20 years and this is what I have found. The Gentile-run media is just as pro-Israel as the Jewish media. Now you riddle me that. Also I saw papers go from Jewish to Gentile control and vice versa and the Israel reporting stayed the same. I thought, “There’s a lot more to this pro-Israel stuff than “Jewish control.” That’s why I wrote this piece. If Jewish control doesn’t explain the pro-Israel bias, what does?

    • Replies: @Corrupt
    @Robert Lindsay

    At least two of the top 8 US banks have jew CEO's (25% is disproportionate to their numbers). Another two CEO's aren't jews, but might as well be given their actions. 50% jew or heavily jew influenced CEO's means at least 50% of US banking is controlled by jews, not to mention companies like Black Rock and Schwab, plus all the cabinet, executive and fed positions held by jews. Such corruption should not be allowed.

    , @John Wear
    @Robert Lindsay

    You write: "Now Duke is a bad person but mostly just an idiot, a racist and an antisemite, but I do like one thing about him. He is scrupulously honest when it comes to history."

    My response: David Duke is certainly not a saint, but I don't consider him to be a bad person. He is much more of a scholar than most people give him credit for.

    If anyone has an interest, you can listen to David Duke's debate with Alex Jones at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPa1wLvCovE.

    A good short interview of David Duke with Wolf Blitzer is at https://vimeo.com/34646600.

    Finally, I do recommend David Duke's book "Jewish Supremacism." This book is a good introduction to the Zionist/Jewish control of our society.

  • @Tallest Skil
    @Socratic truth


    WAAAAA MOMMY THE BAD MAN MADE A SWEAR MAKE HIM STOPPPPPPP
     

    HE IS FIVE YEARS OLD NOT MEEEEEEE
     
    Thank you for publicly admitting you have no idea what the Constitution or First Amendment say.
    Thank you for publicly admitting you have no right to spam lies here in perpetuity.
    Thank you for publicly admitting you are only here to post falsehoods.

    Replies: @Socratic truth

    Perfect response from someone with a IQ of ZERO and behavioral pattern of a FIVE YEAR OLD. Congrats!!

  • @Socratic truth
    @Tallest Skil

    No real argumentation but only Cussing? Easy to see that you are of low IQ level. Just like a 5 year old when he gets mad.

    Replies: @Tallest Skil

    WAAAAA MOMMY THE BAD MAN MADE A SWEAR MAKE HIM STOPPPPPPP

    HE IS FIVE YEARS OLD NOT MEEEEEEE

    Thank you for publicly admitting you have no idea what the Constitution or First Amendment say.
    Thank you for publicly admitting you have no right to spam lies here in perpetuity.
    Thank you for publicly admitting you are only here to post falsehoods.

    • Replies: @Socratic truth
    @Tallest Skil

    Perfect response from someone with a IQ of ZERO and behavioral pattern of a FIVE YEAR OLD. Congrats!!

  • I believe a lot of Jews (but certainly not all) rather bad in certain ways. Yet we all know Jews who don’t fit the stereotype, including all the Jews I grew up who were friends of my Judeophilic family. I also had some Jewish friends as a young man. The thing is that I never...
  • @Angharad
    @Robert Lindsay

    The deranged droolings of yours that Unz published are insulting beyond belief.

    1) Jews are NOT White. They are a race of mongrel gypsies. They KNOW they are not White. Yet YOU steal actual White identity and culture in your incomprehensible defense of this race of genetic criminals.

    2) Jews are malicious PARASITES. They are NOT "civilized". They invade and glom onto the civilizations of other, and work systematically to gain power and control, and loot and much as possble, anything their Host has. They work like ACID on a civilization, They eat away all standards and beliefs and mores of their Hosts, until the Host culture is on smoking ruins.

    3) Jews are a RACE are DEPRAVED. They foment the weirdest sorts of depravities they can concoct, especially sexual degeneracy. They are ANTI Civilization.

    4) The negroes your rightfully detest are ENABLED by the jews that have been using them as bio weapons for well over 100 years.

    You are a loathesome lick spittle LIAR. Who is paying your to try to sell your poisoned swill?

    Replies: @PolarBear, @Shafar Nullifidian

    Lindsay is a Jewge, i.e., a Jew’s Stooge

    Make It A MEME!

  • Jews don’t own the media. 25-30 years ago you could say that, but it’s not true anymore. I did a deep analysis of the US media recently looking for the extent of Jewish ownership and came away a bit chagrined as the default hypothesis was one of Jewish ownership. Turns out they definitely own a...
  • @kiwk
    @Unbornawakened

    The jews buy everyone off.

    Replies: @Gvaltar, @Shafar Nullifidian

    Lindsay has a point, It’s under his hat!

  • @Jim H
    'In his book The International Jew, printed in 1920, Ford pointed out that US Jews acted very bad back then, much worse than they do now.' -- Robert Lindsay

    This is sloppy writing on Lindsay's part. Obviously the final clause is Lindsay's interpolation, not Henry Ford projecting an improvement in Jewish behavior a century in the future. A copy editor would revise 'bad' to 'badly.' And finally, I dispute Lindsay's claim, as mass-murdering Israel didn't even exist in Ford's time.

    Under the heading 'Jews Don't Run the Banks Anymore,' Lindsay makes a series of broad-brush assertions without a single documentary citation. Here's a counterfactual for Lindsay: Usury Jew Janet Yellen, Secretary of the Treasury, just raided numerous banks to steal the interest on Russia's confiscated forex reserves, to backstop a $50 billion loan to the Ukies.

    Ultimately Lindsay's essay is incoherent. Did he have a point? It eluded me.

    Replies: @Tiptoethrutulips, @Shafar Nullifidian

    Lindsay has a point, It’s under his hat!

  • @Dr. Robert Morgan
    Ron Unz: "Obviously, virtually 100% of everyone in the MSM is absolutely terrified of being purged for being insufficiently pro-Jewish."

    It's far from obvious. In fact, I think it's very doubtful. Are we really supposed to believe that someone like Dana Loesch, the female radio host with a nationwide "conservative" audience, who is rabidly pro-Jew and pro-Israel, is only that way because she's terrified of being purged? Isn't it just possible that she sincerely believes her opinion to be right and in accordance with her brand of self-proclaimed Christian morality? Or, in the alternative, that she's just cynically playing to her base, giving them what they want to hear? I think either of those scenarios is far more plausible than that she's "terrified". Likewise with the others in media. Either they're sincere, or just advancing their careers, prostituting themselves, whorishly offering their audiences what sells.

    Of course, Ron's post trashing this article received the enthusiastic endorsement of his carefully assembled menagerie of antisemites here on his own site. But using his logic, we should assume they only did so because they were terrified that he might ban them. It couldn't possibly be that they have their own reasons for agreeing with him. Or, transferring this to a Christian context, we could deduce with equal logic that no one at all truly believes in Jesus. They only say they do because they are terrified of being "purged", and cast into Hell!

    How is it that that non-Jews that the Jews supposedly control always have no agency? To argue thus is reminiscent of the #metoo craze. The #metoo whores claim they were only innocent waifs unfairly taken advantage of by a Jew. They weren't sucking Harvey Weinstein's misshapen cock because they were whores trying to advance their careers. No, no, no! They did it because they were "terrified" they might be purged from the industry if they didn't. But the unspoken truth is that no one forced them to choose that career. They actually do have agency.

    Replies: @Robert Lindsay, @Adûnâi

    > “I think either of those scenarios is far more plausible than that she’s “terrified”. Likewise with the others in media. Either they’re sincere, or just advancing their careers, prostituting themselves, whorishly offering their audiences what sells.”

    First of all, I extend you my warmest welcome to this cyber abode – although I have only seen your return thanks to Chechar.
    https://westsdarkesthour.com/2024/07/12/he-is-back/

    Second, indeed, as prescient as always. I would add that the very idea of excuses reeks of an incorrect model. It just so happens that the State of Israel is not teetering on the brink due to a volcanic eruption of Jewish anti-Zionism, is it? Or the Syrian Arab Republic curiously had not a single front that was explicitly blasphemous, or anti-Islamic, in the years of its ruinous and anarchic civil war?

    And yet, all the fruits of the Occidental civilisation have constantly been – female rights, Negro rights, trans rights, and indeed Jewish rights! Everywhere from Alaska to Chukotka. So much so that cuckoldry is virtually the only common characteristic of the Aryan race at this point. Affluent American liberals and traditional Russo-Ukrainian Bolsheviks all can agree on one thing – that all humanoids are created equal, and that discriminating in one’s treatment of one’s neighbour is the most heinous crime imaginable – right there with rape and Hitler-worship.

    What I’m saying is that it’s all excuses made by the myopic to hide their embarrassment. Chechar is correct in diagnosing that the only other option would be way too destructive and painful to them – a full rejection of all Christendom, of all nationalism, of all cultural heritage of the past 200 years at least, and in many respects the whole 2000. And they lack the ire of the vigorous races such as the Mongoloids who starved a gorillion million of themselves to death at the cost of purging the land of Christian malaise.

    At this rate, even Jew-free media wouldn’t salvage what’s left of the native American people. They would kill themselves anyway just to show they’re not fascist like those proud Israelis. Only a nuclear hecatomb could possibly rejuvenate this dog breed – and even then, possibly only in Russia.

  • @Holy Catholic
    @AbsurdinessBrown

    Good and bad people everywhere but yes the Talmudic Jews are wicked evil insidious.
    Majority of Jews have no clue what’s in their holy books so in a way they are innocent.

    Replies: @Utopian Dreams

    You should know better. You think Wicked Jewish Action is the product of the Talmud? In reality, both the Talmud and Jewish Action are products of Jewish Nature, which is universal to All Jews.

  • Jews don’t exercise major influence in banking? So you’re just going to ignore the entire history of the Federal Reserve? The Rothschild family? Warren Buffett?
    Seriously? Even in a world where you can’t contradict the ADL and still process credit card payments?
    Are you downplaying the truth to sound more like a normie or a blue-pill? Or less like the raging antisemite every gentile should be if they knew the truth about Jewish nature?

    You also completely gloss over the issue of Judeo-Masonry.
    Still, decent article, to be fair.

    • Replies: @Robert Lindsay
    @Utopian Dreams

    I don't know much about the Federal Reserve Board but I don't understand how what (((Alan Greenspan))) (may his name be cursed) does benefits Jewish people over any other group. Want to clue me in.

    The (((Rothschilds))) (may a curse be upon their name for all of time) are not that big in banking anymore. Even in Europe alone there are much bigger names in banking. Most banking is out of the city of London where it's all financialized and I do not believe particularly Jewish, and Germany, where it's all run by former Nazis and their ancestors.

    I was curious about this "Jews run the banks" thing. I looked up the Top 30 or 50 banks in the world and went through the names. A lot were out of Germany, a few out of New York, some in London and a whole lot out of Asia. Actually world banking was concentrated more in Asia now than anywhere else.

    Yeah Jews used to run the banks in Europe. And partly as a consequence of that, a thing called the Holocaust happened and wa-la! Automagically the Jews didn't own the banks anymore! Isn't that amazing?

    Most of the big US commercial chain banks whose names you see on your credit cards are not run by Jews. If you go to Europe, the banks on your credit cards are not run by Jews. If you go to Asia, no banks are run by Jews and they're all run by Asians in Hong Kong and Singapore.

    Look, I've been studying this for 20 years. But one day I heard David Duke say, "The Jews never ran the banks in the US and they don't even run them in the world anymore." Now Duke is a bad person but mostly just an idiot, a racist and an antisemite, but I do like one thing about him. He is scrupulously honest when it comes to history.

    And when history goes against his White Supremacist bullshit, he comes right out and says it. Duke also said the Jews took over the press and Hollywood in a coordinated action not to be the octopus that controls the world but because they were paranoid that that racist papers and Hollywood would go beyond it's standard racism and become antisemitic.

    Jews are not stupid and a lot of times they're dead on honest. Jews know that every time a bunch of White people get together and say, "Go Whites!" or some White nation gets nationalist and says, "Go White nation!" it won't be long before they somehow figure out a way to go after the Jews. Hence as the White Supremacists note, Jews are very hostile to their movement. That's why. They're all suspicious if not hostile to all nationalist movements in White countries. That's why.

    Duke said in the 1880's, Jews were getting alarmed at how racist the media was. I have read Californian and national papers extensively from 1850-1880 as part of a job I was doing working for an Indian tribe. Let me tell you, the US press was insanely racist in those days. Like off the charts racist. Against Blacks (niggers), Indians, South Indians (Hindoos), and Polynesians (kanakas). They thought none of these people should have the right to vote. They didn't like the Chinese either.

    The Jews got alarmed at these racist papers and figured they would go after the Jews sooner or later so the Jews bought the New York Times as a result of an actual conspiracy. The conspiracy expanded over the next 20-30 years where they bought up much of the newspapers in the US (except the Dearborn Independent LOL).

    He said Jews were very alarmed at the success of Birth of a Nation and hatched a conspiracy to buy up Hollywood, and within 10 years five Jews from a 50 mile radius in Galicia had bought up all of Hollywood.

    The Jews bought up the media and Hollywood to keep it out of the hands of the antisemites. This paranoia actually motivates a lot of their behavior. They didn't do it to be the Octopus and control the world and there is no Jewish world or national agenda anyway other than Israel and antisemitism, the only two things they can agree on. So they use Hollywood and the media to promote Israel and fight antisemitism and for no other reason.

    What on Earth does Warren Buffet have to do with the Jews?

    Almost all of those companies who demanded pulled their advertisements from Musk's Twitter were run by Gentiles. Gentile corporate America doesn't dig antisemitism. Now you riddle me that. Any racist anything gets its payment systems and use of credit cards cut off because it's racist, not because it's anti-Jewish.


    Are you downplaying the truth to sound more like a normie or a blue-pill? Or less like the raging antisemite every gentile should be if they knew the truth about Jewish nature?
     
    Obviously there is some truth to this, and good job reading my mind. Congrats. On the other hand, I believe in what I am writing here. 30 years ago, Jews had very serious control over the media. Now, in 2024, this control has diminished significantly. It went from 59% in 1996 to at most 41% (Hollywood and media combined) and surely less because Hollywood is way more Jewish than the media.

    I've been studying the issue for 20 years and this is what I have found. The Gentile-run media is just as pro-Israel as the Jewish media. Now you riddle me that. Also I saw papers go from Jewish to Gentile control and vice versa and the Israel reporting stayed the same. I thought, "There's a lot more to this pro-Israel stuff than "Jewish control." That's why I wrote this piece. If Jewish control doesn't explain the pro-Israel bias, what does?

    Replies: @Corrupt, @John Wear

  • The Jews control Congress… they are W_ to their funders. How else do you explain a $4 billion dollar a year standard contribution to Israel…every yr for the past 20 yrs + ?

    • Replies: @Robert Lindsay
    @anon

    The piece is about Jewish media control, not Jewish control of the US state on a couple of issues only.

  • @Tallest Skil
    @Socratic truth

    You have no clue what the Constitution or First Amendment say or are for. You're completely delusional. You're literally advocating for communist rule. Fuck off, dipshit.

    Replies: @Socratic truth

    No real argumentation but only Cussing? Easy to see that you are of low IQ level. Just like a 5 year old when he gets mad.

    • Replies: @Tallest Skil
    @Socratic truth


    WAAAAA MOMMY THE BAD MAN MADE A SWEAR MAKE HIM STOPPPPPPP
     

    HE IS FIVE YEARS OLD NOT MEEEEEEE
     
    Thank you for publicly admitting you have no idea what the Constitution or First Amendment say.
    Thank you for publicly admitting you have no right to spam lies here in perpetuity.
    Thank you for publicly admitting you are only here to post falsehoods.

    Replies: @Socratic truth

  • @Tiptoethrutulips
    @Patrick McNally


    An agent of the Czarist secret police.
     
    Really? Your source conveys nothing but innuendo. Whom did he tell? Wasn’t the Tsar present at the opera house with Stolypin? I wonder why the secret police would allow an armed man near the Tsar? Maybe you’re right, Pretzel - Nicholas II, who preferred playing dominoes with his family to incessant political intrigues, wouldn’t just fire his prime minister, who was certainly guilty of not being very warm and fuzzy; he would rather allow an armed Jew to shoot him at the opera house in his very presence.

    In any event, the fact remains that a Russian statesman was assassinated by a Jew, and said Russian was attempting to bring about political and economic reforms to benefit the Russian populace, in general -

    Nevertheless, only fifteen per cent of peasants became kulaks (a relatively affluent farmer) albeit that was fifteen per cent of peasant that were loyal to the Tsar (BBC, 2012) thus meaning that Stolypin’s reforms had limited success however such a small number of peasants improved thus falling short of Stolypin’s aims of creating a peasant class which consisted of a kulak majority.
    The statistical improvement which resulted from the reforms in the five years before Stolypin was assassinated implies that there was the potential for these programmes of reforms to be successful and for Tsarism to be saved. After all, the reforms were in their infancy having only been implemented for five of the ‘twenty years of peace which Stolypin considered necessary for them to become established’ (Hite, 2004, p. 52) and had it not been for his assassination in 1911 and the First World War in 1914 it is possible that Tsarism could have survived.

    [BBC, 2012. Attempts to Strengthen Tsarism, 1905-1914. [Online] 
Available at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/education/guides/z2prcdm/revision/5
 and Hite, J., 2004. Tsarist Russia 1801-1917. s.l.:Causeway Press.]


    The suspicions are only increased by the phony stories spread about Bogrov after his arrest: - The most likely source of the claim that Bogrov acted as a Jew and on behalf of Jewish interests is a false report in the right-wing daily
     
    I don’t know anything about phony stories on Bogrov, nor do I care. I know damn well Jews act on behalf of Jewish interests everywhere. That’s precisely why “German/American” Jew Jacob Schiff had a bee in his bonnet over the Jews in Russia.

    You don’t need to “cut off” loans or funds never provided.

    Duh! The loans were given to Kerensky’s government before Lenin took power. Schiff tried to demand that the Bolsheviks should pay back what had been donated to the Provisional Government which they had overthrown.
     

    Well, Pretzel, if that was the point - duh! - that the loans had been made only to Kerensky, then why was there a delineation between the “further loans to the Bolsheviks” and the loans to Kerensky? Was that snake Schiff buttering both sides of his toast? I can’t imagine that a Jewish banker would seek to profit from multiple parties of the same conflict, as if there was no real loyalty or principles amongst the lender.

    Schiff would have supported the Constitutional Democrats because he agreed with their politics.
     
    Would have? Or, did he? The ethnicity of the leaders of the Constitutional Democrats would have prevented any sort of alliance with Schiff, as we all know that, in general, Jewry allies with European Gentiles on a superficial, zero-sum level. Schiff’s primary objective was the emancipation of Jewry in Russia, as at that time, Russia was the last Gentile stronghold in Europe. He may have objected to the savage, animalistic tactics of the Bolsheviks/Soviets inasmuch as it made the Jews look bad, as the Jewish hand in Bolshevism was obvious to everyone at that time. (Hence the necessity of controlling media and publishing; no one in mainstream America knows anything of substance about the Bolsheviks or the Holodomor, nor the outrageous allegations against NS Germany. When I describe the ridiculous statements made by Dario Gabbai, et al, nearly everyone says there is no way the entire Holocaust narrative could be based on such outlandish tales, but of course, they certainly are thusly based.)

    But there is no evidence that this precursor of the Politburo ever functioned.
     
    Yes, I read that the organization was on paper only. It was an idea, yes? An idea of mostly Jewish leadership in Russia, with a few Useful Idiots in tow. Just like they say about America these days - a country based on an Idea, not a People. Unlike Israel….President Robinette is a Useful Idiot; That Goblin Mayorakas has a definite idea about who can be an American. It’s the same process, always.

    Rather than serving as evidence of Jewish unity,
     
    I am well aware of conflicts within the Jewish community. In that respect, they are like everyone else - they fight amongst themselves and they occasionally betray their own, but ultimately they act as a nation within a nation everywhere they settle. The secular big-wig Jews support and defend the shtetl Jews, and they ALL seek to weaken non-Jewish/Amalek/Edom society to their ultimate benefit, and you, BolshevikPretzel, are no different, so you’re either a Jew or a Useful Idiot.

    Replies: @Patrick McNally

    > Wasn’t the Tsar present at the opera house with Stolypin?

    So what? Bogrov had been employed by the secret police for years.

    > Nicholas II,

    Barely knew anything about what was going on around him. If there was a conspiracy with the secret police to get rid of Stolypin, as is plausible, then there is no reason to believe that Nicholas II would have known anything about it.

    > In any event, the fact remains that a Russian statesman was assassinated by a Jew,

    A Jew who had been employed by the secret police to spy on revolutionary organizations such as the Social Revolutionary Party. You simply draw broad lines connecting anyone with a smidgeon of Jewish background in a grand conspiracy. It’s not warranted by evidence.

    > The statistical improvement which resulted from the reforms in the five years before Stolypin was assassinated implies that there was the potential for these programmes of reforms to be successful and for Tsarism to be saved.

    You can always theorize about how Czarism might have limped along. The fact is that most Russian peasants rejected Stolypin’s brand of reform, which they saw as an attempt to preserve the gentry by manipulating the smaller peasants against each other. What should properly have been done is that the Social Revolutionaries who were elected to the Duman in 1906 should have been allowed to carry through their own program for the peasantry. It’s not obvious that their program of land redistribution would have delivered all of the goods that it was expected to. But it would have been a program with popular support and if it turned out that something more needed to be done, then that could be argued about at the right time. Stolypin’s dismissal of the Duma and his attempt to save the landed gentry simply alienated the peasants who would have to be the backbone of any serious program.

    > I know damn well Jews act on behalf of Jewish interests everywhere.

    That’s an overblown ideological statement. The information we have on Bogrov shows that he was prone towards gambling and ended up hiring himself out to the secret police in order to pat debts. There’s nothing in his profile which suggests any grand racial agenda.

    > the loans had been made only to Kerensky

    Obviously, none of the loans were made to Kerensky personally. They were made to the Russian state, at a time when Kerensky was the government in the Russian state. Then Lenin took power, and now he was the head of government of the state.

    > Would have? Or, did he?

    Of course he did, insofar as he was able.

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    Western Jewish leaders favored a liberal rather than an extreme or revolutionary movement among Russian Jews. They more readily supported the League for the Attainment of Full Right for the Jewish People of Russia than they did the Bund. The League was founded in March 1905 without socialist participation. In matters of general Russian politics the League, like the Western leaders, favored the Cadets–the Russian Constitutional Democratic Party.
    —–
    — Zosa Szajkowski, “Paul Nathan, Lucien Wolf, Jacob H. Schiff and the Jewish Revolutionary Movements in Eastern Europe 1903-1917,” Jewish Social Studies, Volume 29, Number 1, p. 11.

    It was the League for the Attainment of Full Right for the Jewish People of Russia which was the main organizational tool for dispensing aid. Not that one should exaggerate the degree to which outside forces could dictate outcomes within Russia. The Constitutional Democrats won big in the first election of 1906, when the Left abstained from the elections. The monarchy was dissatisfied with the results and held new elections. This time the Left participated and won, so Stolypin dismissed the Duma and reworked the system to jigger it for conservative benefit. Schiff was in no position to alter that.

    > Yes, I read that the organization was on paper only.

    More important is the reason that it remained on paper only. It stopped at that because Zinoviev and Kamenev led the opposition to Lenin and Trotsky over the issue of whether or not to seize power. Therefore, the latter two figures dismissed this politburo and carried out the seizure of power through a different apparatus. Zinoviev and Kamenev continued their protest for some time and were further expelled from other committees, but ultimately it was Admiral Kolchak who made the whole thing moot.

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    I think that even though the Bolsheviks have few positive sides, the disbandment of that Constituent Assembly is truly to their credit. This, one should consider their positive asset.
    —–
    — Vladimir Brovkin, Behind the Front Lines of the Civil War: Political Parties and Social Movements in Russia, 1918-1922, p. 195, Princeton University Press, 1994.

    Kolchak’s approval of the Assembly’s dismissal made the whole argument by Zinoviev and Kamenev moot.

    > but ultimately they act as a nation within a nation everywhere they settle.

    No, the historical evidence shows that only outside restrictions tended to induce such behavior. You can find examples of Jewish leaders who welcomed restrictions on Jews because they wished to maintain a community. But when Hitler came to power, many people in Germany who had not thought of Jewish identity in a long time were suddenly reminded of it. Certainly, Hitler’s 12 years in power did a lot to create a new type of Jewish identity which lasted through the end of the 20th century. But even that shows signs of crumbling with growing inter-marriage rates.

  • @Socratic truth
    @Tallest Skil

    I believe Mr Unz as a firm believer of the 1st amendment of the constitution will decline. However, I agree with you there is a lot of inaccuracies contained in this article.

    Replies: @Tallest Skil

    You have no clue what the Constitution or First Amendment say or are for. You’re completely delusional. You’re literally advocating for communist rule. Fuck off, dipshit.

    • Agree: John Trout
    • Replies: @Socratic truth
    @Tallest Skil

    No real argumentation but only Cussing? Easy to see that you are of low IQ level. Just like a 5 year old when he gets mad.

    Replies: @Tallest Skil

  • @Skeptikal
    @eah

    Re " but I’ve explained the rationale for what’s going on a number of times before, e.g. here: most of the rest of the world, including ‘the West’, acknowledges that Hamas committed an act of war against Israel, and Israel has a right to defend itself and secure its existence by attempting to eliminate a sworn, mortal enemy (it’s in the charter of Hamas)."

    Too bad you are so mentally inept as to think that "most of the West" believing something makes it a fact.

    It has been explained to you repeatedly here and I am sure elsewhere that under international law as framed in the UN charter Israel, an occupying power, has no right to self-defense to prolong its illegal occupation, whereas Hamas as the legal representative of the occupied entity has, in international law, a right to struggle for self-determination, including armed struggle.

    There, there, I know it's hard.

    Now that this has been explained to you, you can stop the pompous, gaslighting multiple chauvinims you have put on display with your "genderizing" of an acknowledged genocidal shit show.

    Replies: @John Trout

    While having no right to claim self-defense in response of an act of resistance by the occupied, the occupiers have a responsibility for the health and well-being of the occupied.

  • This seems like it was written by an intern at the ADL.

    Jew or Crypto-Jew makes no difference and to claim that the media isn’t under Jewish control is to simply ignore and discount who runs (not merely who OWNS) all of the mega corporations. META owns roughly 2/3 of “social media” and it is not just OWNED by but also RAN by a Jew. That’s 2/3 of the discourse on the internet under solid control. What else – TV? You want to talk about the big networks? Mostly Jewish executive teams. Vastly disproportionate. Go look at the roster of any media corporation or masthead of any newspaper or magazine board, and its vastly vastly overrepresented by Jews. There should be 1 per 50, so basically at most executive teams you’d expect to see ZERO, since they don’t even have 50 people total on the executive team. Instead, its like half. Or roughly 50x to 100x as many as expected.

    • Replies: @Robert Lindsay
    @TrumpWon

    What else – TV? You want to talk about the big networks? Mostly Jewish executive teams.

    That's false. My research found that.

    Sure they're overrepresented. Of course they are. But it's not a case of "most" at all. A lot of the time you have two people at the very top, often one Jew and one Gentile. That's not "most." However, as I noted these corporations, while not necessarily run by Jews or having "mostly" Jewish anything, are nevertheless stacked top to bottom with Jews.

    There are so many Jews, yes over-represented vastly, that they may exercise "effective control." As a commenter above noted, if an executive board has six Christians and nine seculars, the board is effectively controlled by Christians. At least the seculars are not going to say anything to upset them, so anti-Christian anything is off the table. That's "effective control."

    My research showed Jews didn't run the media anymore. I think there are only two old style Jewish-run corporations where most if not all of the top management is Jewish. 30 years ago, there were a number of them. The classic old style Jewish-run corporation of the old days (often a family enterprise) is headed out and these are now just gigantic faceless and maybe mindless corporations who change hands every few years and get entirely new owners and management.

    Nevertheless, despite the lack of Jewish control, the media is still wildly pro-Israel. What's up with that? I could not explain that and this sent me on my journey. It's seems the pro-Israel bias is about something more than pure Jewish control. I feel that the old style Gentile Establishment of the US (boomers and Gen X'ers) is very pro-Jewish and extremely pro-Israel. That's just the way it is. New generations will form a new Establishment that may be more Jewish-critical instead of fawningly Judeophilic and will probably be quite critical of Israel.

    The main thing that explains pro and anti-Israel bias in the US is age. The Gen X'ers and Boomers and any Silents and Greatest that are still with us are very pro-Israel basically out of habit. I was myself until age 43. Then I realized that the media and Establishment had been lying to me for 43 years and it really pissed me off. I dove into a black hole of research on the Israel/Palestine question and was amazed at all the information that had been kept from me. And I'm very intelligent, with an advanced degree and extremely widely read and self-educated. And they even fooled me.

    Millennials and Gen Z is much less pro-Israel and in some respects is even anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian.

    Age explains opinions on this issue more than any other factor.

  • @Patrick McNally
    @Tiptoethrutulips

    > who killed Pyotr Stolypin

    An agent of the Czarist secret police.

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    A young man named Dimitri Bogrov, who had been agent of the secret police for several years, told them that there was a plan to assassinate Stolypin in the opera house and the police allowed him into the building that evening although they knew he had a revolver... Stolypin sat in the stalls, where during the second interval Bogrov shot him twice... The behavior of the police created suspicion that they had been involved in Stolypin's murder. The investigation into the assassination was stopped on Tsar Nicholas's 0rders for reasons that remain unknown.
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    -- Richard Cavendish, "Pyotr Stolypin assassinated in Kiev," History Today, September 2011, p. 9.

    The suspicions are only increased by the phony stories spread about Bogrov after his arrest:

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    Although well paid for by doting parents, he often ran out of money because of his passion for gambling and it is fairly certain that it was financial need that drove him to become a police agent... The most likely source of the claim that Bogrov acted as a Jew and on behalf of Jewish interests is a false report in the right-wing daily, Novoe vremia, of September 13, 1911, that prior to his execution Bogrov told a rabbi he had "struggled for the welfare and happiness of the Jewish people" ... In reality, he had refused to see a rabbi before his execution...
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    -- Richard Pipes, The Russian Revolution, pp. 188-9.

    > known as the greatest reformer of Russian society and economy, whose reforms caused unprecedented growth of the Russian state, which was halted by his assassination in 1911?

    That's a silly myth which was created after the assassination. In comparison with most of the other fools who held authority in Czarist Russia, Stolypin can seem like a mental giant. But that says more about his rivals than himself.

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    His methods aroused fierce opposition and only a minority of the Russian peasantry took advantage of the opportunities he offered them.
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    -- Cavendish, ibid.

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    Stolypin's legislation of 1906, 1910, and 1911 ... aimed at breaking up the peasant commune and at creating a strong class of peasant proprietors... But critics have also been numerous and by no means limited to populists or other defenders of the commune as such. They have pointed, for example, to the limited scope of Stolypin's reforms which represented, in a sense, one more effort to save gentry land by making the peasants redivide what they already possessed...
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    -- Nicholas Riasanovsky, A History of Russia, 4th edition, pp. 433-4.

    What needed to be allowed for was the electoral results of 1906 should have been allowed to stand. Stolypin should not have dismissed the Duma. The Social Revolutionary Party would then have enacted into law its own brand of Leftist land reform. They would have done this with the popular support of the peasantry. Stolypin's conservative attempt to preserve the landed gentry by making the lesser peasants redivide the land never aroused any popular enthusiasm from peasants, and so it fell on deaf ears. It's only comparison with an idiot like Nicholas II that Stolypin appears to stand out.

    > I looked up information on the founding members of the Constitutional Democrats, and not a single one was Jewish

    There's no evidence that Schiff was ever interested in supporting Jewish personnel in any capacity. He supported Kolchak initially in the Russian Civil War and was disbelieving of the reports of White pogroms. Schiff would have supported the Constitutional Democrats because he agreed with their politics.

    > You don’t need to “cut off” loans or funds never provided.

    Duh! The loans were given to Kerensky's government before Lenin took power. Schiff tried to demand that the Bolsheviks should pay back what had been donated to the Provisional Government which they had overthrown.

    > Who comprised the Central Committee in August 1917

    You can find the authentic list here:

    http://holocaust.skeptik.net/misc/party.htm

    Just scroll down until you hit the date of August 16, 1917.

    > or the Political Bureau, a forerunner of the Politburo?

    Now you're back to repeating tall tales again. That politburo never met and never and did anything simply because Zinoviev and Kamenev were leading the opposition against Lenin and Trotsky where they argued that the Bolsheviks could not and should not attempt to seize power.

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    When the party's Central Committee met in secret session during the night of October 10 [old style], Lenin slipped into town to take part in its deliberations. He insisted that the putsch be carried out immediately. Kamenev and Zinoviev opposed this proposal most resolutely, but the others also had doubts. Subsequently, Kamenev gave an interview to a Menshevik newspaper in which he revealed this disagreement. Lenin, in white hot fury, called him and Zinoviev traitors to the revolution.
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    -- Richard Pipes, Three "Whys" of the Russian Revolution, pp. 52-3, Vintage Books, 1997.

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    The meeting of the Central Committee of 23 October [new style] also set up a Political Bureau, intended as a temporary measure until the rising. Lenin, Zinoviev, Kamenev (the last two in spite of, or because of, their adverse vote), Trotsky, Stalin, Sokol'nikov and Bubnov were elected. But there is no evidence that this precursor of the Politburo ever functioned.
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    -- Leonard Schapiro, The Communist Party of the Soviet Union, p. 173, Vintage Books, 1960

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    The political bureau in its October membership never once assembled, and it was soon simply forgotten--as were other organizations created ad hoc in the whirlpool of events.
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    -- Leon Trotsky, History of the Russian Revolution, Volume 3, p. 155, Simon and Schuster, 1932. Republished by University of Michigan Press, 1960.

    The reason that this politburo did not ever function was because of the split which Zinoviev and Kamenev led within it. Lenin and Trotsky were the only 2 members of this "politburo" who were firmly in favor of attempting a seizure of power. Zinoviev and Kamenev were firmly opposed, while the others (Stalin, Sokol'nikov, Bubnov) also showed doubts. For this reason, that politburo never met, played absolutely no role in the organization of the uprising, and was disbanded immediately with the seizure of power. Instead, it was the Military Revolutionary Committee of the Petrograd Soviet which organized the rising.

    This conflict recurred immediately after the initial seizure of power:

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    Between October 29 [old style] and 31, when it seemed that Krasnov's forces might retake the capital ... Lenin and Trotsky ... did not attend ... the Vikzhel conference at which the character and program of a new government were discussed. In their absence, the views of Kamenev, Zinoviev, Rykov, Miliutin, and other Bolshevik moderates carried particular weight. Kamenev and his associates were fairly convinced that the only hope of defending ... the revolution ... lay in the creation of a broad socialist coalition government, which had been their position all along...

    Bolshevik moderates continued to press for the formation of a government in which all socialist parties would be represented, even after the moderate position had been voted down in the Central Committee. Indeed, on November 3 Kamenev and Zinoviev secured the Central Executive Committee's endorsement of continued efforts to form such a government. For Lenin, who a week earlier had urged that Kamenev and Zinoviev be ousted from the party for their public opposition to an insurrection, the moderates' readiness to sabotage the revolution was maddening... Lenin's ultimatum was presented formally on November 4, after which Kamenev, Zinoviev, Rykov, Nogin, and Miliutin resigned from the Central Committee in protest.
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    -- Alexander Rabinowitch, The Bolsheviks Come to Power: The Revolution of 1917 in Petrograd, pp. 310-1, W. W. Norton & Company, 1976.

    Rather than serving as evidence of Jewish unity, the conflicts between Lenin and Trotsky versus Zinoviev and Kamenev are an example of how deep the internal conflicts were, right on the eve of the seizure of power.

    Replies: @Tiptoethrutulips

    An agent of the Czarist secret police.

    Really? Your source conveys nothing but innuendo. Whom did he tell? Wasn’t the Tsar present at the opera house with Stolypin? I wonder why the secret police would allow an armed man near the Tsar? Maybe you’re right, Pretzel – Nicholas II, who preferred playing dominoes with his family to incessant political intrigues, wouldn’t just fire his prime minister, who was certainly guilty of not being very warm and fuzzy; he would rather allow an armed Jew to shoot him at the opera house in his very presence.

    In any event, the fact remains that a Russian statesman was assassinated by a Jew, and said Russian was attempting to bring about political and economic reforms to benefit the Russian populace, in general –

    Nevertheless, only fifteen per cent of peasants became kulaks (a relatively affluent farmer) albeit that was fifteen per cent of peasant that were loyal to the Tsar (BBC, 2012) thus meaning that Stolypin’s reforms had limited success however such a small number of peasants improved thus falling short of Stolypin’s aims of creating a peasant class which consisted of a kulak majority.
    The statistical improvement which resulted from the reforms in the five years before Stolypin was assassinated implies that there was the potential for these programmes of reforms to be successful and for Tsarism to be saved. After all, the reforms were in their infancy having only been implemented for five of the ‘twenty years of peace which Stolypin considered necessary for them to become established’ (Hite, 2004, p. 52) and had it not been for his assassination in 1911 and the First World War in 1914 it is possible that Tsarism could have survived.

    [BBC, 2012. Attempts to Strengthen Tsarism, 1905-1914. [Online] 
Available at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/education/guides/z2prcdm/revision/5
 and Hite, J., 2004. Tsarist Russia 1801-1917. s.l.:Causeway Press.]

    The suspicions are only increased by the phony stories spread about Bogrov after his arrest: – The most likely source of the claim that Bogrov acted as a Jew and on behalf of Jewish interests is a false report in the right-wing daily

    I don’t know anything about phony stories on Bogrov, nor do I care. I know damn well Jews act on behalf of Jewish interests everywhere. That’s precisely why “German/American” Jew Jacob Schiff had a bee in his bonnet over the Jews in Russia.

    You don’t need to “cut off” loans or funds never provided.

    Duh! The loans were given to Kerensky’s government before Lenin took power. Schiff tried to demand that the Bolsheviks should pay back what had been donated to the Provisional Government which they had overthrown.

    Well, Pretzel, if that was the point – duh! – that the loans had been made only to Kerensky, then why was there a delineation between the “further loans to the Bolsheviks” and the loans to Kerensky? Was that snake Schiff buttering both sides of his toast? I can’t imagine that a Jewish banker would seek to profit from multiple parties of the same conflict, as if there was no real loyalty or principles amongst the lender.

    Schiff would have supported the Constitutional Democrats because he agreed with their politics.

    Would have? Or, did he? The ethnicity of the leaders of the Constitutional Democrats would have prevented any sort of alliance with Schiff, as we all know that, in general, Jewry allies with European Gentiles on a superficial, zero-sum level. Schiff’s primary objective was the emancipation of Jewry in Russia, as at that time, Russia was the last Gentile stronghold in Europe. He may have objected to the savage, animalistic tactics of the Bolsheviks/Soviets inasmuch as it made the Jews look bad, as the Jewish hand in Bolshevism was obvious to everyone at that time. (Hence the necessity of controlling media and publishing; no one in mainstream America knows anything of substance about the Bolsheviks or the Holodomor, nor the outrageous allegations against NS Germany. When I describe the ridiculous statements made by Dario Gabbai, et al, nearly everyone says there is no way the entire Holocaust narrative could be based on such outlandish tales, but of course, they certainly are thusly based.)

    But there is no evidence that this precursor of the Politburo ever functioned.

    Yes, I read that the organization was on paper only. It was an idea, yes? An idea of mostly Jewish leadership in Russia, with a few Useful Idiots in tow. Just like they say about America these days – a country based on an Idea, not a People. Unlike Israel….President Robinette is a Useful Idiot; That Goblin Mayorakas has a definite idea about who can be an American. It’s the same process, always.

    Rather than serving as evidence of Jewish unity,

    I am well aware of conflicts within the Jewish community. In that respect, they are like everyone else – they fight amongst themselves and they occasionally betray their own, but ultimately they act as a nation within a nation everywhere they settle. The secular big-wig Jews support and defend the shtetl Jews, and they ALL seek to weaken non-Jewish/Amalek/Edom society to their ultimate benefit, and you, BolshevikPretzel, are no different, so you’re either a Jew or a Useful Idiot.

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    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
    @Tiptoethrutulips

    > Wasn’t the Tsar present at the opera house with Stolypin?

    So what? Bogrov had been employed by the secret police for years.

    > Nicholas II,

    Barely knew anything about what was going on around him. If there was a conspiracy with the secret police to get rid of Stolypin, as is plausible, then there is no reason to believe that Nicholas II would have known anything about it.

    > In any event, the fact remains that a Russian statesman was assassinated by a Jew,

    A Jew who had been employed by the secret police to spy on revolutionary organizations such as the Social Revolutionary Party. You simply draw broad lines connecting anyone with a smidgeon of Jewish background in a grand conspiracy. It's not warranted by evidence.

    > The statistical improvement which resulted from the reforms in the five years before Stolypin was assassinated implies that there was the potential for these programmes of reforms to be successful and for Tsarism to be saved.

    You can always theorize about how Czarism might have limped along. The fact is that most Russian peasants rejected Stolypin's brand of reform, which they saw as an attempt to preserve the gentry by manipulating the smaller peasants against each other. What should properly have been done is that the Social Revolutionaries who were elected to the Duman in 1906 should have been allowed to carry through their own program for the peasantry. It's not obvious that their program of land redistribution would have delivered all of the goods that it was expected to. But it would have been a program with popular support and if it turned out that something more needed to be done, then that could be argued about at the right time. Stolypin's dismissal of the Duma and his attempt to save the landed gentry simply alienated the peasants who would have to be the backbone of any serious program.

    > I know damn well Jews act on behalf of Jewish interests everywhere.

    That's an overblown ideological statement. The information we have on Bogrov shows that he was prone towards gambling and ended up hiring himself out to the secret police in order to pat debts. There's nothing in his profile which suggests any grand racial agenda.

    > the loans had been made only to Kerensky

    Obviously, none of the loans were made to Kerensky personally. They were made to the Russian state, at a time when Kerensky was the government in the Russian state. Then Lenin took power, and now he was the head of government of the state.

    > Would have? Or, did he?

    Of course he did, insofar as he was able.

    —–
    Western Jewish leaders favored a liberal rather than an extreme or revolutionary movement among Russian Jews. They more readily supported the League for the Attainment of Full Right for the Jewish People of Russia than they did the Bund. The League was founded in March 1905 without socialist participation. In matters of general Russian politics the League, like the Western leaders, favored the Cadets–the Russian Constitutional Democratic Party.
    —–
    — Zosa Szajkowski, “Paul Nathan, Lucien Wolf, Jacob H. Schiff and the Jewish Revolutionary Movements in Eastern Europe 1903-1917,” Jewish Social Studies, Volume 29, Number 1, p. 11.

    It was the League for the Attainment of Full Right for the Jewish People of Russia which was the main organizational tool for dispensing aid. Not that one should exaggerate the degree to which outside forces could dictate outcomes within Russia. The Constitutional Democrats won big in the first election of 1906, when the Left abstained from the elections. The monarchy was dissatisfied with the results and held new elections. This time the Left participated and won, so Stolypin dismissed the Duma and reworked the system to jigger it for conservative benefit. Schiff was in no position to alter that.

    > Yes, I read that the organization was on paper only.

    More important is the reason that it remained on paper only. It stopped at that because Zinoviev and Kamenev led the opposition to Lenin and Trotsky over the issue of whether or not to seize power. Therefore, the latter two figures dismissed this politburo and carried out the seizure of power through a different apparatus. Zinoviev and Kamenev continued their protest for some time and were further expelled from other committees, but ultimately it was Admiral Kolchak who made the whole thing moot.

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    I think that even though the Bolsheviks have few positive sides, the disbandment of that Constituent Assembly is truly to their credit. This, one should consider their positive asset.
    -----
    -- Vladimir Brovkin, Behind the Front Lines of the Civil War: Political Parties and Social Movements in Russia, 1918-1922, p. 195, Princeton University Press, 1994.

    Kolchak's approval of the Assembly's dismissal made the whole argument by Zinoviev and Kamenev moot.

    > but ultimately they act as a nation within a nation everywhere they settle.

    No, the historical evidence shows that only outside restrictions tended to induce such behavior. You can find examples of Jewish leaders who welcomed restrictions on Jews because they wished to maintain a community. But when Hitler came to power, many people in Germany who had not thought of Jewish identity in a long time were suddenly reminded of it. Certainly, Hitler's 12 years in power did a lot to create a new type of Jewish identity which lasted through the end of the 20th century. But even that shows signs of crumbling with growing inter-marriage rates.

  • > The Dearborn Independent

    In regard to the latter, it’s worth noting an instance of false citation which Ford made in 1920 of The American Hebrew & Jewish Messenger. The original article which Ford claimed to be referencing was this:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_American_Hebrew_Jewish_Messenger/M1xAAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA434&printsec=frontcover

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_American_Hebrew_Jewish_Messenger/M1xAAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA507&printsec=frontcover

    “Jews in World Reconstruction by Svetozar Tonjoroff”

    Ford (and later Coughlin) misrepresented what the article said. An author who does this can’t be trusted.

    More generally, even when Ford may not have been deliberately lying, he committed the error of trusting the Sisson documents.

    https://wiki.istmat.org/_media/%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BA:sisson:the_sisson_documents.pdf

    The Sisson documents were debunked by George Kennan in 1957. Before that, historians had been generally wary of them, but lots of journalistic commentators freely used them. The Sisson documents were the basis for the publication of The German-Bolshevik Conspiracy. Many charges made by contemporary Rightists against Max Warburg typically rested on the Sisson documents. So, Kennan’s debunking of the Sisson documents in 1957 affects the assessment of any journalist who may have used the Sisson documents.

  • @Tiptoethrutulips
    @Patrick McNally


    Those circumstances allowed the Czarist monarchy to survive
     
    Which is why, ultimately, the pesky members of the Czarist monarchy were assassinated.

    By the way, Pretzel, who killed Pyotr Stolypin, known as the greatest reformer of Russian society and economy, whose reforms caused unprecedented growth of the Russian state, which was halted by his assassination in 1911? Was his assassin an all-Russian? Or a Jew?

    Schiff did not support socialism. He supported constitutional government. That was why he aided the Constitutional Democrats aka Cadets.
     
    Why was an “American” banker meddling in Russian state affairs?

    I looked up information on the founding members of the Constitutional Democrats, and not a single one was Jewish, therefore I don’t believe your BS about general support from Schiff. Wikipedia does say he was disappointed that the Bolsheviks were behaving like feral savages, hell-bent on revenge against Russian gentiles, so in 1917, he “immediately rejected them, cut off further loans, started funding anti-Bolshevist groups, demands that the Bolsheviks pay back some of the money he had loaned Kerensky, and he joined a British-backed effort to appeal to fellow Jews in Russia to continue to fight against Germany.”

    What loans, Pretzel? Loans for what, Pretzel? You don’t need to “cut off” loans or funds never provided.

    Why were non-Russians meddling in the “Russian” Revolution?

    Who comprised the Central Committee in August 1917 or the Political Bureau, a forerunner of the Politburo? The leading members were Lenin, Stalin, Zinoviev, Kamenev, Trotsky, Sokolnikov, Sverdlov and Bubnov.

    1. 1/4 Jew/Mongol
    2. Georgian married to Jewess, and -

    3.Yakov Mikhailovich Sverdlov - Born in Nizhny Novgorod to a Jewish family active in revolutionary politics, Sverdlov joined the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party in 1902 and supported Vladimir Lenin's Bolshevik faction from 1903…

    4. Leon Trotsky - Lev Davidovich Bronstein… born into a wealthy Jewish family in Ukraine …was a Russian revolutionary, Soviet politician, and political theorist. He was a central figure in the 1905 Revolution, October Revolution, Russian Civil War, and establishment of the Soviet Union. Trotsky, with Vladimir Lenin, was widely considered one of the two most prominent Soviet figures…

    5. Lev Borisovich Kamenev - born as Lev Rozenfeld in Moscow, the son of a Jewish railway worker…An Old Bolshevik, Kamenev was a leading figure in the early Soviet government…Kamenev joined the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party in 1901 and sided with Vladimir Lenin's Bolshevik faction after the party's 1903 split…

    6. Grigory Yevseyevich Zinoviev - (born Ovsei-Gershon Aronovich Radomyslsky) - Born in Ukraine to a Jewish family, Zinoviev joined the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party in 1901 and sided with Vladimir Lenin's Bolsheviks in the party's 1903 split…

    7. Grigori Yakovlevich Sokolnikov - was born Girsh Yankelevich Brilliant in Romny on 15 August 1888, the son of a Jewish doctor employed by the railways…He joined the Bolshevik faction of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party in 1905.

    Andrei Bubnov - was born in Ivanovo-Voznesensk in Vladimir Governorate (now Ivanovo, Ivanovo Oblast, Russia) into a local Russian merchant's family….In 1903, he joined the Bolshevik wing of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party. [An actual Russian? So, 75% of the Central Committee was All-Not Russian?)

    I think, with the exception of Lenin/Stalin, all of the aforementioned “Russians” were purged. So, were the Soviets really an improvement over the Romanovs?

    Speaking of forced confessions, which were perfectly acceptable, and frankly, mandatory, at Jewish tribunals like Nuremberg Kangaroo Kourt -

    Wiki -
    [Bubnov] He was then still a member of the Central Committee, which convened on 4 December, and received a message from Stalin saying that Bubnov had confessed to being 'an enemy of the people' and a German spy. He was expelled from the Party Central Committee.

    The modus operandi of the Soviet regime was often to keep secret the fate of particular purged persons: whether they were sent to internal exile to a labor camp, sent to a psychiatric hospital (in which the regime disguised confinement and drugging as compassionate "health care"), or executed. This policy encouraged their families and the general public to believe that they were probably still alive in a camp or hospital somewhere. Bubnov was posthumously rehabilitated in March 1956 during the de-Stalinization of the Khrushchev thaw. The Soviet government did not make public the lists of the purged persons who had already long been executed. Thus, their relatives were often still searching for them in various psychiatric hospitals in the 1970s, as was the case with Bubnov…

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    > who killed Pyotr Stolypin

    An agent of the Czarist secret police.

    —–
    A young man named Dimitri Bogrov, who had been agent of the secret police for several years, told them that there was a plan to assassinate Stolypin in the opera house and the police allowed him into the building that evening although they knew he had a revolver… Stolypin sat in the stalls, where during the second interval Bogrov shot him twice… The behavior of the police created suspicion that they had been involved in Stolypin’s murder. The investigation into the assassination was stopped on Tsar Nicholas’s 0rders for reasons that remain unknown.
    —–
    — Richard Cavendish, “Pyotr Stolypin assassinated in Kiev,” History Today, September 2011, p. 9.

    The suspicions are only increased by the phony stories spread about Bogrov after his arrest:

    —–
    Although well paid for by doting parents, he often ran out of money because of his passion for gambling and it is fairly certain that it was financial need that drove him to become a police agent… The most likely source of the claim that Bogrov acted as a Jew and on behalf of Jewish interests is a false report in the right-wing daily, Novoe vremia, of September 13, 1911, that prior to his execution Bogrov told a rabbi he had “struggled for the welfare and happiness of the Jewish people” … In reality, he had refused to see a rabbi before his execution…
    —–
    — Richard Pipes, The Russian Revolution, pp. 188-9.

    > known as the greatest reformer of Russian society and economy, whose reforms caused unprecedented growth of the Russian state, which was halted by his assassination in 1911?

    That’s a silly myth which was created after the assassination. In comparison with most of the other fools who held authority in Czarist Russia, Stolypin can seem like a mental giant. But that says more about his rivals than himself.

    —–
    His methods aroused fierce opposition and only a minority of the Russian peasantry took advantage of the opportunities he offered them.
    —–
    — Cavendish, ibid.

    —–
    Stolypin’s legislation of 1906, 1910, and 1911 … aimed at breaking up the peasant commune and at creating a strong class of peasant proprietors… But critics have also been numerous and by no means limited to populists or other defenders of the commune as such. They have pointed, for example, to the limited scope of Stolypin’s reforms which represented, in a sense, one more effort to save gentry land by making the peasants redivide what they already possessed…
    —–
    — Nicholas Riasanovsky, A History of Russia, 4th edition, pp. 433-4.

    What needed to be allowed for was the electoral results of 1906 should have been allowed to stand. Stolypin should not have dismissed the Duma. The Social Revolutionary Party would then have enacted into law its own brand of Leftist land reform. They would have done this with the popular support of the peasantry. Stolypin’s conservative attempt to preserve the landed gentry by making the lesser peasants redivide the land never aroused any popular enthusiasm from peasants, and so it fell on deaf ears. It’s only comparison with an idiot like Nicholas II that Stolypin appears to stand out.

    > I looked up information on the founding members of the Constitutional Democrats, and not a single one was Jewish

    There’s no evidence that Schiff was ever interested in supporting Jewish personnel in any capacity. He supported Kolchak initially in the Russian Civil War and was disbelieving of the reports of White pogroms. Schiff would have supported the Constitutional Democrats because he agreed with their politics.

    > You don’t need to “cut off” loans or funds never provided.

    Duh! The loans were given to Kerensky’s government before Lenin took power. Schiff tried to demand that the Bolsheviks should pay back what had been donated to the Provisional Government which they had overthrown.

    > Who comprised the Central Committee in August 1917

    You can find the authentic list here:

    http://holocaust.skeptik.net/misc/party.htm

    Just scroll down until you hit the date of August 16, 1917.

    > or the Political Bureau, a forerunner of the Politburo?

    Now you’re back to repeating tall tales again. That politburo never met and never and did anything simply because Zinoviev and Kamenev were leading the opposition against Lenin and Trotsky where they argued that the Bolsheviks could not and should not attempt to seize power.

    —–
    When the party’s Central Committee met in secret session during the night of October 10 [old style], Lenin slipped into town to take part in its deliberations. He insisted that the putsch be carried out immediately. Kamenev and Zinoviev opposed this proposal most resolutely, but the others also had doubts. Subsequently, Kamenev gave an interview to a Menshevik newspaper in which he revealed this disagreement. Lenin, in white hot fury, called him and Zinoviev traitors to the revolution.
    —–
    — Richard Pipes, Three “Whys” of the Russian Revolution, pp. 52-3, Vintage Books, 1997.

    —–
    The meeting of the Central Committee of 23 October [new style] also set up a Political Bureau, intended as a temporary measure until the rising. Lenin, Zinoviev, Kamenev (the last two in spite of, or because of, their adverse vote), Trotsky, Stalin, Sokol’nikov and Bubnov were elected. But there is no evidence that this precursor of the Politburo ever functioned.
    —–
    — Leonard Schapiro, The Communist Party of the Soviet Union, p. 173, Vintage Books, 1960

    —–
    The political bureau in its October membership never once assembled, and it was soon simply forgotten–as were other organizations created ad hoc in the whirlpool of events.
    —–
    — Leon Trotsky, History of the Russian Revolution, Volume 3, p. 155, Simon and Schuster, 1932. Republished by University of Michigan Press, 1960.

    The reason that this politburo did not ever function was because of the split which Zinoviev and Kamenev led within it. Lenin and Trotsky were the only 2 members of this “politburo” who were firmly in favor of attempting a seizure of power. Zinoviev and Kamenev were firmly opposed, while the others (Stalin, Sokol’nikov, Bubnov) also showed doubts. For this reason, that politburo never met, played absolutely no role in the organization of the uprising, and was disbanded immediately with the seizure of power. Instead, it was the Military Revolutionary Committee of the Petrograd Soviet which organized the rising.

    This conflict recurred immediately after the initial seizure of power:

    —–
    Between October 29 [old style] and 31, when it seemed that Krasnov’s forces might retake the capital … Lenin and Trotsky … did not attend … the Vikzhel conference at which the character and program of a new government were discussed. In their absence, the views of Kamenev, Zinoviev, Rykov, Miliutin, and other Bolshevik moderates carried particular weight. Kamenev and his associates were fairly convinced that the only hope of defending … the revolution … lay in the creation of a broad socialist coalition government, which had been their position all along…

    Bolshevik moderates continued to press for the formation of a government in which all socialist parties would be represented, even after the moderate position had been voted down in the Central Committee. Indeed, on November 3 Kamenev and Zinoviev secured the Central Executive Committee’s endorsement of continued efforts to form such a government. For Lenin, who a week earlier had urged that Kamenev and Zinoviev be ousted from the party for their public opposition to an insurrection, the moderates’ readiness to sabotage the revolution was maddening… Lenin’s ultimatum was presented formally on November 4, after which Kamenev, Zinoviev, Rykov, Nogin, and Miliutin resigned from the Central Committee in protest.
    —–
    — Alexander Rabinowitch, The Bolsheviks Come to Power: The Revolution of 1917 in Petrograd, pp. 310-1, W. W. Norton & Company, 1976.

    Rather than serving as evidence of Jewish unity, the conflicts between Lenin and Trotsky versus Zinoviev and Kamenev are an example of how deep the internal conflicts were, right on the eve of the seizure of power.

    • Replies: @Tiptoethrutulips
    @Patrick McNally


    An agent of the Czarist secret police.
     
    Really? Your source conveys nothing but innuendo. Whom did he tell? Wasn’t the Tsar present at the opera house with Stolypin? I wonder why the secret police would allow an armed man near the Tsar? Maybe you’re right, Pretzel - Nicholas II, who preferred playing dominoes with his family to incessant political intrigues, wouldn’t just fire his prime minister, who was certainly guilty of not being very warm and fuzzy; he would rather allow an armed Jew to shoot him at the opera house in his very presence.

    In any event, the fact remains that a Russian statesman was assassinated by a Jew, and said Russian was attempting to bring about political and economic reforms to benefit the Russian populace, in general -

    Nevertheless, only fifteen per cent of peasants became kulaks (a relatively affluent farmer) albeit that was fifteen per cent of peasant that were loyal to the Tsar (BBC, 2012) thus meaning that Stolypin’s reforms had limited success however such a small number of peasants improved thus falling short of Stolypin’s aims of creating a peasant class which consisted of a kulak majority.
    The statistical improvement which resulted from the reforms in the five years before Stolypin was assassinated implies that there was the potential for these programmes of reforms to be successful and for Tsarism to be saved. After all, the reforms were in their infancy having only been implemented for five of the ‘twenty years of peace which Stolypin considered necessary for them to become established’ (Hite, 2004, p. 52) and had it not been for his assassination in 1911 and the First World War in 1914 it is possible that Tsarism could have survived.

    [BBC, 2012. Attempts to Strengthen Tsarism, 1905-1914. [Online] 
Available at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/education/guides/z2prcdm/revision/5
 and Hite, J., 2004. Tsarist Russia 1801-1917. s.l.:Causeway Press.]


    The suspicions are only increased by the phony stories spread about Bogrov after his arrest: - The most likely source of the claim that Bogrov acted as a Jew and on behalf of Jewish interests is a false report in the right-wing daily
     
    I don’t know anything about phony stories on Bogrov, nor do I care. I know damn well Jews act on behalf of Jewish interests everywhere. That’s precisely why “German/American” Jew Jacob Schiff had a bee in his bonnet over the Jews in Russia.

    You don’t need to “cut off” loans or funds never provided.

    Duh! The loans were given to Kerensky’s government before Lenin took power. Schiff tried to demand that the Bolsheviks should pay back what had been donated to the Provisional Government which they had overthrown.
     

    Well, Pretzel, if that was the point - duh! - that the loans had been made only to Kerensky, then why was there a delineation between the “further loans to the Bolsheviks” and the loans to Kerensky? Was that snake Schiff buttering both sides of his toast? I can’t imagine that a Jewish banker would seek to profit from multiple parties of the same conflict, as if there was no real loyalty or principles amongst the lender.

    Schiff would have supported the Constitutional Democrats because he agreed with their politics.
     
    Would have? Or, did he? The ethnicity of the leaders of the Constitutional Democrats would have prevented any sort of alliance with Schiff, as we all know that, in general, Jewry allies with European Gentiles on a superficial, zero-sum level. Schiff’s primary objective was the emancipation of Jewry in Russia, as at that time, Russia was the last Gentile stronghold in Europe. He may have objected to the savage, animalistic tactics of the Bolsheviks/Soviets inasmuch as it made the Jews look bad, as the Jewish hand in Bolshevism was obvious to everyone at that time. (Hence the necessity of controlling media and publishing; no one in mainstream America knows anything of substance about the Bolsheviks or the Holodomor, nor the outrageous allegations against NS Germany. When I describe the ridiculous statements made by Dario Gabbai, et al, nearly everyone says there is no way the entire Holocaust narrative could be based on such outlandish tales, but of course, they certainly are thusly based.)

    But there is no evidence that this precursor of the Politburo ever functioned.
     
    Yes, I read that the organization was on paper only. It was an idea, yes? An idea of mostly Jewish leadership in Russia, with a few Useful Idiots in tow. Just like they say about America these days - a country based on an Idea, not a People. Unlike Israel….President Robinette is a Useful Idiot; That Goblin Mayorakas has a definite idea about who can be an American. It’s the same process, always.

    Rather than serving as evidence of Jewish unity,
     
    I am well aware of conflicts within the Jewish community. In that respect, they are like everyone else - they fight amongst themselves and they occasionally betray their own, but ultimately they act as a nation within a nation everywhere they settle. The secular big-wig Jews support and defend the shtetl Jews, and they ALL seek to weaken non-Jewish/Amalek/Edom society to their ultimate benefit, and you, BolshevikPretzel, are no different, so you’re either a Jew or a Useful Idiot.

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  • @Patrick McNally
    @Laurence Fryd

    > the 1905 Gapon-revolution failed

    Duh! Because it has not been deliberately organized by anyone. It was a completely spontaneous outbreak which no in the existing revolutionary groups had any idea would happen. The uprising spread across the whole country and forced the monarchy to allow parliamentary elections for the first time. The existing Leftist groups, that means the Social Revolutionaries and Social Democrats primarily, were caught by surprise and abstained from the first elections. Instead, it was the newly formed Constitutional Democrats who carried that first vote. The monarchy tried to change things by having new election again in 1906, but this time the Leftist parties decided to participate, and they carried the election. But the momentum from early 1905 was already dying down and now the conflicts among the Leftists themselves became obvious and the ball was fumbled. Those circumstances allowed the Czarist monarchy to survive and even to rework the election laws which, after the Duma was dismissed, made it impossible for the Left to win the same way again. But the writing was on the wall in 1905. Any sane person could that discontent was spread across the whole country and ready to explode in the event of any new crisis. None of that was brought about Jacob Schiff, nor were any of the later events either.

    > the weakening and impoverishment of the Russian Empire due to its humiliating defeat in the Russo-Japanese war

    Which was brought on by the stupidity of the Czarist government. Sure, Schiff gave some war loans to Japan. France and Germany gave huge war credits to Russia. The decisive factor in this was not Jacob Schiff. That's your delusion. The war began on February 8, 1904. Your own Wiki source dates Schiff meeting with Takahashi Kore to April 1894, when the war had been going on for two months. But it's not as if Russia was somehow deprived of supporters. France gave Russia 30.4 million pounds and Germany another 24.5 million. Schiff's loans to Japan were of the order 41.2 million pounds. It's clear that the combined loans of Germany and France outclassed Schiff by about 13.2 million pounds. This was not the main source of the Czarist government's disaster. It was a mess which brought upon themselves when they were poorly prepared.

    > large propaganda efforts by Anti-Tzarist/socialist fraction

    Total nonsense. After the January uprising had broken out on its own, without any involvement by any foreign sources whatsoever, there was an attempt by Schiff to support the Constitutional Democrats.

    -----
    Western Jewish leaders favored a liberal rather than an extreme or revolutionary movement among Russian Jews. They more readily supported the League for the Attainment of Full Right for the Jewish People of Russia than they did the Bund. The League was founded in March 1905 without socialist participation. In matters of general Russian politics the League, like the Western leaders, favored the Cadets--the Russian Constitutional Democratic Party.
    -----
    -- Zosa Szajkowski, "Paul Nathan, Lucien Wolf, Jacob H. Schiff and the Jewish Revolutionary Movements in Eastern Europe 1903-1917," Jewish Social Studies, Volume 29, Number 1, p. 11.

    Schiff did not support socialism. He supported constitutional government. That was why he aided the Constitutional Democrats aka Cadets.

    Replies: @Tiptoethrutulips

    Those circumstances allowed the Czarist monarchy to survive

    Which is why, ultimately, the pesky members of the Czarist monarchy were assassinated.

    By the way, Pretzel, who killed Pyotr Stolypin, known as the greatest reformer of Russian society and economy, whose reforms caused unprecedented growth of the Russian state, which was halted by his assassination in 1911? Was his assassin an all-Russian? Or a Jew?

    Schiff did not support socialism. He supported constitutional government. That was why he aided the Constitutional Democrats aka Cadets.

    Why was an “American” banker meddling in Russian state affairs?

    I looked up information on the founding members of the Constitutional Democrats, and not a single one was Jewish, therefore I don’t believe your BS about general support from Schiff. Wikipedia does say he was disappointed that the Bolsheviks were behaving like feral savages, hell-bent on revenge against Russian gentiles, so in 1917, he “immediately rejected them, cut off further loans, started funding anti-Bolshevist groups, demands that the Bolsheviks pay back some of the money he had loaned Kerensky, and he joined a British-backed effort to appeal to fellow Jews in Russia to continue to fight against Germany.”

    What loans, Pretzel? Loans for what, Pretzel? You don’t need to “cut off” loans or funds never provided.

    Why were non-Russians meddling in the “Russian” Revolution?

    Who comprised the Central Committee in August 1917 or the Political Bureau, a forerunner of the Politburo? The leading members were Lenin, Stalin, Zinoviev, Kamenev, Trotsky, Sokolnikov, Sverdlov and Bubnov.

    1. 1/4 Jew/Mongol
    2. Georgian married to Jewess, and –

    3.Yakov Mikhailovich Sverdlov – Born in Nizhny Novgorod to a Jewish family active in revolutionary politics, Sverdlov joined the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party in 1902 and supported Vladimir Lenin’s Bolshevik faction from 1903…

    4. Leon Trotsky – Lev Davidovich Bronstein… born into a wealthy Jewish family in Ukraine …was a Russian revolutionary, Soviet politician, and political theorist. He was a central figure in the 1905 Revolution, October Revolution, Russian Civil War, and establishment of the Soviet Union. Trotsky, with Vladimir Lenin, was widely considered one of the two most prominent Soviet figures…

    5. Lev Borisovich Kamenev – born as Lev Rozenfeld in Moscow, the son of a Jewish railway worker…An Old Bolshevik, Kamenev was a leading figure in the early Soviet government…Kamenev joined the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party in 1901 and sided with Vladimir Lenin’s Bolshevik faction after the party’s 1903 split…

    6. Grigory Yevseyevich Zinoviev – (born Ovsei-Gershon Aronovich Radomyslsky) – Born in Ukraine to a Jewish family, Zinoviev joined the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party in 1901 and sided with Vladimir Lenin’s Bolsheviks in the party’s 1903 split…

    7. Grigori Yakovlevich Sokolnikov – was born Girsh Yankelevich Brilliant in Romny on 15 August 1888, the son of a Jewish doctor employed by the railways…He joined the Bolshevik faction of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party in 1905.

    Andrei Bubnov – was born in Ivanovo-Voznesensk in Vladimir Governorate (now Ivanovo, Ivanovo Oblast, Russia) into a local Russian merchant’s family….In 1903, he joined the Bolshevik wing of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party. [An actual Russian? So, 75% of the Central Committee was All-Not Russian?)

    I think, with the exception of Lenin/Stalin, all of the aforementioned “Russians” were purged. So, were the Soviets really an improvement over the Romanovs?

    Speaking of forced confessions, which were perfectly acceptable, and frankly, mandatory, at Jewish tribunals like Nuremberg Kangaroo Kourt –

    Wiki –
    [Bubnov] He was then still a member of the Central Committee, which convened on 4 December, and received a message from Stalin saying that Bubnov had confessed to being ‘an enemy of the people’ and a German spy. He was expelled from the Party Central Committee.

    The modus operandi of the Soviet regime was often to keep secret the fate of particular purged persons: whether they were sent to internal exile to a labor camp, sent to a psychiatric hospital (in which the regime disguised confinement and drugging as compassionate “health care”), or executed. This policy encouraged their families and the general public to believe that they were probably still alive in a camp or hospital somewhere. Bubnov was posthumously rehabilitated in March 1956 during the de-Stalinization of the Khrushchev thaw. The Soviet government did not make public the lists of the purged persons who had already long been executed. Thus, their relatives were often still searching for them in various psychiatric hospitals in the 1970s, as was the case with Bubnov…

    • Thanks: John Wear, anarchyst
    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
    @Tiptoethrutulips

    > who killed Pyotr Stolypin

    An agent of the Czarist secret police.

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    A young man named Dimitri Bogrov, who had been agent of the secret police for several years, told them that there was a plan to assassinate Stolypin in the opera house and the police allowed him into the building that evening although they knew he had a revolver... Stolypin sat in the stalls, where during the second interval Bogrov shot him twice... The behavior of the police created suspicion that they had been involved in Stolypin's murder. The investigation into the assassination was stopped on Tsar Nicholas's 0rders for reasons that remain unknown.
    -----
    -- Richard Cavendish, "Pyotr Stolypin assassinated in Kiev," History Today, September 2011, p. 9.

    The suspicions are only increased by the phony stories spread about Bogrov after his arrest:

    -----
    Although well paid for by doting parents, he often ran out of money because of his passion for gambling and it is fairly certain that it was financial need that drove him to become a police agent... The most likely source of the claim that Bogrov acted as a Jew and on behalf of Jewish interests is a false report in the right-wing daily, Novoe vremia, of September 13, 1911, that prior to his execution Bogrov told a rabbi he had "struggled for the welfare and happiness of the Jewish people" ... In reality, he had refused to see a rabbi before his execution...
    -----
    -- Richard Pipes, The Russian Revolution, pp. 188-9.

    > known as the greatest reformer of Russian society and economy, whose reforms caused unprecedented growth of the Russian state, which was halted by his assassination in 1911?

    That's a silly myth which was created after the assassination. In comparison with most of the other fools who held authority in Czarist Russia, Stolypin can seem like a mental giant. But that says more about his rivals than himself.

    -----
    His methods aroused fierce opposition and only a minority of the Russian peasantry took advantage of the opportunities he offered them.
    -----
    -- Cavendish, ibid.

    -----
    Stolypin's legislation of 1906, 1910, and 1911 ... aimed at breaking up the peasant commune and at creating a strong class of peasant proprietors... But critics have also been numerous and by no means limited to populists or other defenders of the commune as such. They have pointed, for example, to the limited scope of Stolypin's reforms which represented, in a sense, one more effort to save gentry land by making the peasants redivide what they already possessed...
    -----
    -- Nicholas Riasanovsky, A History of Russia, 4th edition, pp. 433-4.

    What needed to be allowed for was the electoral results of 1906 should have been allowed to stand. Stolypin should not have dismissed the Duma. The Social Revolutionary Party would then have enacted into law its own brand of Leftist land reform. They would have done this with the popular support of the peasantry. Stolypin's conservative attempt to preserve the landed gentry by making the lesser peasants redivide the land never aroused any popular enthusiasm from peasants, and so it fell on deaf ears. It's only comparison with an idiot like Nicholas II that Stolypin appears to stand out.

    > I looked up information on the founding members of the Constitutional Democrats, and not a single one was Jewish

    There's no evidence that Schiff was ever interested in supporting Jewish personnel in any capacity. He supported Kolchak initially in the Russian Civil War and was disbelieving of the reports of White pogroms. Schiff would have supported the Constitutional Democrats because he agreed with their politics.

    > You don’t need to “cut off” loans or funds never provided.

    Duh! The loans were given to Kerensky's government before Lenin took power. Schiff tried to demand that the Bolsheviks should pay back what had been donated to the Provisional Government which they had overthrown.

    > Who comprised the Central Committee in August 1917

    You can find the authentic list here:

    http://holocaust.skeptik.net/misc/party.htm

    Just scroll down until you hit the date of August 16, 1917.

    > or the Political Bureau, a forerunner of the Politburo?

    Now you're back to repeating tall tales again. That politburo never met and never and did anything simply because Zinoviev and Kamenev were leading the opposition against Lenin and Trotsky where they argued that the Bolsheviks could not and should not attempt to seize power.

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    When the party's Central Committee met in secret session during the night of October 10 [old style], Lenin slipped into town to take part in its deliberations. He insisted that the putsch be carried out immediately. Kamenev and Zinoviev opposed this proposal most resolutely, but the others also had doubts. Subsequently, Kamenev gave an interview to a Menshevik newspaper in which he revealed this disagreement. Lenin, in white hot fury, called him and Zinoviev traitors to the revolution.
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    -- Richard Pipes, Three "Whys" of the Russian Revolution, pp. 52-3, Vintage Books, 1997.

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    The meeting of the Central Committee of 23 October [new style] also set up a Political Bureau, intended as a temporary measure until the rising. Lenin, Zinoviev, Kamenev (the last two in spite of, or because of, their adverse vote), Trotsky, Stalin, Sokol'nikov and Bubnov were elected. But there is no evidence that this precursor of the Politburo ever functioned.
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    -- Leonard Schapiro, The Communist Party of the Soviet Union, p. 173, Vintage Books, 1960

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    The political bureau in its October membership never once assembled, and it was soon simply forgotten--as were other organizations created ad hoc in the whirlpool of events.
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    -- Leon Trotsky, History of the Russian Revolution, Volume 3, p. 155, Simon and Schuster, 1932. Republished by University of Michigan Press, 1960.

    The reason that this politburo did not ever function was because of the split which Zinoviev and Kamenev led within it. Lenin and Trotsky were the only 2 members of this "politburo" who were firmly in favor of attempting a seizure of power. Zinoviev and Kamenev were firmly opposed, while the others (Stalin, Sokol'nikov, Bubnov) also showed doubts. For this reason, that politburo never met, played absolutely no role in the organization of the uprising, and was disbanded immediately with the seizure of power. Instead, it was the Military Revolutionary Committee of the Petrograd Soviet which organized the rising.

    This conflict recurred immediately after the initial seizure of power:

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    Between October 29 [old style] and 31, when it seemed that Krasnov's forces might retake the capital ... Lenin and Trotsky ... did not attend ... the Vikzhel conference at which the character and program of a new government were discussed. In their absence, the views of Kamenev, Zinoviev, Rykov, Miliutin, and other Bolshevik moderates carried particular weight. Kamenev and his associates were fairly convinced that the only hope of defending ... the revolution ... lay in the creation of a broad socialist coalition government, which had been their position all along...

    Bolshevik moderates continued to press for the formation of a government in which all socialist parties would be represented, even after the moderate position had been voted down in the Central Committee. Indeed, on November 3 Kamenev and Zinoviev secured the Central Executive Committee's endorsement of continued efforts to form such a government. For Lenin, who a week earlier had urged that Kamenev and Zinoviev be ousted from the party for their public opposition to an insurrection, the moderates' readiness to sabotage the revolution was maddening... Lenin's ultimatum was presented formally on November 4, after which Kamenev, Zinoviev, Rykov, Nogin, and Miliutin resigned from the Central Committee in protest.
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    -- Alexander Rabinowitch, The Bolsheviks Come to Power: The Revolution of 1917 in Petrograd, pp. 310-1, W. W. Norton & Company, 1976.

    Rather than serving as evidence of Jewish unity, the conflicts between Lenin and Trotsky versus Zinoviev and Kamenev are an example of how deep the internal conflicts were, right on the eve of the seizure of power.

    Replies: @Tiptoethrutulips

  • @Carlfried
    Clerical 'Winston' refuses to accept that two plus two equals five. This puts him in a minefield, but he fears neither death nor devil. https://linkmix.co/24396562

    Replies: @Carlfried

  • @Laurence Fryd
    @Patrick McNally

    "Ridiculous. The Czarist state collapsed on its own because it had no popular support from Russians. It was Father Gapon and Sergei Zubatov who set of the 1905 revolution. Schiff had nothing to do with this."

    - Wow, what a nonsensical superficial comment....sorry, but really makes me wonder how much you have actually studied the topic?

    Firstly of course -not sure if you know this?-, but the 1905 Gapon-revolution failed....
    and secondly exactly that "lack of popular support" you talk about which only made its limited initial uprising possible was achieved mainly thanks to 2 things:

    a) the weakening and impoverishment of the Russian Empire due to its humiliating defeat in the Russo-Japanese war

    b) large propaganda efforts by Anti-Tzarist/socialist fraction

    in both of which -as even such horrid mainstream sources like Wikipedia, the Jewish Encyclopedia and Schiff autobiographers like Ackerman tell us (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Schiff)- it was no other than Jacob Schiff who played a central role.

    It was his single handed giant loan of (todays value)5.3 billion Dollars, standing for half of the entire war`s cost, which made the war (and Russias defeat) possible for Japan -earning him the Emperor`s Gold and Silver Star Order of the Rising Sun Award-and his contributions to the Propaganda-distribution activities of the Society Of Friends Of Russian Freedom which helped the 1905 uprising considerably.

    But as said, this revolution failed, it was first the catastrophic entry and then loss of WW1 which brought the widespread public impoverishment and dissatisfaction needed for a this time succesfull revolt against and downfall of the Tzarist Empire.

    And again as even mainstream Wikipedia and Orthodoxy tell us, Schiff was a major player by:

    - sabotaging the Russian war, forbidding any loans to be given to Russia during its time of dire need for funding 1915-1917 and

    - floating large loans to the 1917 revolt and Kerensky regime.

    "Nothing to do with this".......

    Replies: @Patrick McNally

    > the 1905 Gapon-revolution failed

    Duh! Because it has not been deliberately organized by anyone. It was a completely spontaneous outbreak which no in the existing revolutionary groups had any idea would happen. The uprising spread across the whole country and forced the monarchy to allow parliamentary elections for the first time. The existing Leftist groups, that means the Social Revolutionaries and Social Democrats primarily, were caught by surprise and abstained from the first elections. Instead, it was the newly formed Constitutional Democrats who carried that first vote. The monarchy tried to change things by having new election again in 1906, but this time the Leftist parties decided to participate, and they carried the election. But the momentum from early 1905 was already dying down and now the conflicts among the Leftists themselves became obvious and the ball was fumbled. Those circumstances allowed the Czarist monarchy to survive and even to rework the election laws which, after the Duma was dismissed, made it impossible for the Left to win the same way again. But the writing was on the wall in 1905. Any sane person could that discontent was spread across the whole country and ready to explode in the event of any new crisis. None of that was brought about Jacob Schiff, nor were any of the later events either.

    > the weakening and impoverishment of the Russian Empire due to its humiliating defeat in the Russo-Japanese war

    Which was brought on by the stupidity of the Czarist government. Sure, Schiff gave some war loans to Japan. France and Germany gave huge war credits to Russia. The decisive factor in this was not Jacob Schiff. That’s your delusion. The war began on February 8, 1904. Your own Wiki source dates Schiff meeting with Takahashi Kore to April 1894, when the war had been going on for two months. But it’s not as if Russia was somehow deprived of supporters. France gave Russia 30.4 million pounds and Germany another 24.5 million. Schiff’s loans to Japan were of the order 41.2 million pounds. It’s clear that the combined loans of Germany and France outclassed Schiff by about 13.2 million pounds. This was not the main source of the Czarist government’s disaster. It was a mess which brought upon themselves when they were poorly prepared.

    > large propaganda efforts by Anti-Tzarist/socialist fraction

    Total nonsense. After the January uprising had broken out on its own, without any involvement by any foreign sources whatsoever, there was an attempt by Schiff to support the Constitutional Democrats.

    —–
    Western Jewish leaders favored a liberal rather than an extreme or revolutionary movement among Russian Jews. They more readily supported the League for the Attainment of Full Right for the Jewish People of Russia than they did the Bund. The League was founded in March 1905 without socialist participation. In matters of general Russian politics the League, like the Western leaders, favored the Cadets–the Russian Constitutional Democratic Party.
    —–
    — Zosa Szajkowski, “Paul Nathan, Lucien Wolf, Jacob H. Schiff and the Jewish Revolutionary Movements in Eastern Europe 1903-1917,” Jewish Social Studies, Volume 29, Number 1, p. 11.

    Schiff did not support socialism. He supported constitutional government. That was why he aided the Constitutional Democrats aka Cadets.

    • Replies: @Tiptoethrutulips
    @Patrick McNally


    Those circumstances allowed the Czarist monarchy to survive
     
    Which is why, ultimately, the pesky members of the Czarist monarchy were assassinated.

    By the way, Pretzel, who killed Pyotr Stolypin, known as the greatest reformer of Russian society and economy, whose reforms caused unprecedented growth of the Russian state, which was halted by his assassination in 1911? Was his assassin an all-Russian? Or a Jew?

    Schiff did not support socialism. He supported constitutional government. That was why he aided the Constitutional Democrats aka Cadets.
     
    Why was an “American” banker meddling in Russian state affairs?

    I looked up information on the founding members of the Constitutional Democrats, and not a single one was Jewish, therefore I don’t believe your BS about general support from Schiff. Wikipedia does say he was disappointed that the Bolsheviks were behaving like feral savages, hell-bent on revenge against Russian gentiles, so in 1917, he “immediately rejected them, cut off further loans, started funding anti-Bolshevist groups, demands that the Bolsheviks pay back some of the money he had loaned Kerensky, and he joined a British-backed effort to appeal to fellow Jews in Russia to continue to fight against Germany.”

    What loans, Pretzel? Loans for what, Pretzel? You don’t need to “cut off” loans or funds never provided.

    Why were non-Russians meddling in the “Russian” Revolution?

    Who comprised the Central Committee in August 1917 or the Political Bureau, a forerunner of the Politburo? The leading members were Lenin, Stalin, Zinoviev, Kamenev, Trotsky, Sokolnikov, Sverdlov and Bubnov.

    1. 1/4 Jew/Mongol
    2. Georgian married to Jewess, and -

    3.Yakov Mikhailovich Sverdlov - Born in Nizhny Novgorod to a Jewish family active in revolutionary politics, Sverdlov joined the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party in 1902 and supported Vladimir Lenin's Bolshevik faction from 1903…

    4. Leon Trotsky - Lev Davidovich Bronstein… born into a wealthy Jewish family in Ukraine …was a Russian revolutionary, Soviet politician, and political theorist. He was a central figure in the 1905 Revolution, October Revolution, Russian Civil War, and establishment of the Soviet Union. Trotsky, with Vladimir Lenin, was widely considered one of the two most prominent Soviet figures…

    5. Lev Borisovich Kamenev - born as Lev Rozenfeld in Moscow, the son of a Jewish railway worker…An Old Bolshevik, Kamenev was a leading figure in the early Soviet government…Kamenev joined the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party in 1901 and sided with Vladimir Lenin's Bolshevik faction after the party's 1903 split…

    6. Grigory Yevseyevich Zinoviev - (born Ovsei-Gershon Aronovich Radomyslsky) - Born in Ukraine to a Jewish family, Zinoviev joined the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party in 1901 and sided with Vladimir Lenin's Bolsheviks in the party's 1903 split…

    7. Grigori Yakovlevich Sokolnikov - was born Girsh Yankelevich Brilliant in Romny on 15 August 1888, the son of a Jewish doctor employed by the railways…He joined the Bolshevik faction of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party in 1905.

    Andrei Bubnov - was born in Ivanovo-Voznesensk in Vladimir Governorate (now Ivanovo, Ivanovo Oblast, Russia) into a local Russian merchant's family….In 1903, he joined the Bolshevik wing of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party. [An actual Russian? So, 75% of the Central Committee was All-Not Russian?)

    I think, with the exception of Lenin/Stalin, all of the aforementioned “Russians” were purged. So, were the Soviets really an improvement over the Romanovs?

    Speaking of forced confessions, which were perfectly acceptable, and frankly, mandatory, at Jewish tribunals like Nuremberg Kangaroo Kourt -

    Wiki -
    [Bubnov] He was then still a member of the Central Committee, which convened on 4 December, and received a message from Stalin saying that Bubnov had confessed to being 'an enemy of the people' and a German spy. He was expelled from the Party Central Committee.

    The modus operandi of the Soviet regime was often to keep secret the fate of particular purged persons: whether they were sent to internal exile to a labor camp, sent to a psychiatric hospital (in which the regime disguised confinement and drugging as compassionate "health care"), or executed. This policy encouraged their families and the general public to believe that they were probably still alive in a camp or hospital somewhere. Bubnov was posthumously rehabilitated in March 1956 during the de-Stalinization of the Khrushchev thaw. The Soviet government did not make public the lists of the purged persons who had already long been executed. Thus, their relatives were often still searching for them in various psychiatric hospitals in the 1970s, as was the case with Bubnov…

    Replies: @Patrick McNally

  • @Jared Taylor fen
    @Phil Barker @eah

    Thanks for replying. I've done some limited reading about the holocaust and many of the 'denialist' positions provoke intrigue to say the least. The parts that sway me towards the believers are the direct quotes from Goebbels and others which are cited on the "evidence for the holocaust" wiki page. When you have direct quotes from Nazi officers talking about exterminating/destroying/liquidating the Jews, I can only assume revisionists would say they are fabricated.

    Replies: @Phil Barker

    My response is more broad. I interpreted your question as asking how a confession or admission of guilt could be false. Most people in our society tend to elevate both eyewitness testimony and confessions to be on par or even above physical evidence, sometimes even DNA evidence, in terms of validity and accuracy. I believe this is a problem. There are many studies which show the fallibility and malleability of memories and personal claims, especially when a certain outcome is assumed or desired. For example, I recently shed light on how President Dwight D. Eisenhower changed his story about an alleged conversation he had with Henry Stimson regarding the use of the atomic bomb in Japan. It is possible he believed his own claim, even though the substance of his claim changed over time and cannot be corroborated, even indirectly, with anyone else’s recollection or other evidence.

    When it comes to a crime, a lack of physical evidence can exacerbate the problem. The human element, or a particular bias, can even taint the interpretation of physical evidence when it is available. This is no doubt a significant factor in wrongful convictions, both today and especially in the past. For various reasons, people have admitted to crimes which they did not commit. And although environmental pressure and different types of physical and psychological influence often play a role in false confessions, they are not always a necessary factor. That said, what you believe is up to you. Confessions or admissions of guilt are certainly not always false. The takeaway from all the references I posted is really to understand the possibility of bias, the inherent accuracy or inaccuracy of claims, and to give different types of evidence a proper weight.

  • Clerical ‘Winston’ refuses to accept that two plus two equals five. This puts him in a minefield, but he fears neither death nor devil. https://linkmix.co/24396562

  • Thanks for replying. I’ve done some limited reading about the holocaust and many of the ‘denialist’ positions provoke intrigue to say the least. The parts that sway me towards the believers are the direct quotes from Goebbels and others which are cited on the “evidence for the holocaust” wiki page. When you have direct quotes from Nazi officers talking about exterminating/destroying/liquidating the Jews, I can only assume revisionists would say they are fabricated.

    • Replies: @Phil Barker
    @Jared Taylor fen

    My response is more broad. I interpreted your question as asking how a confession or admission of guilt could be false. Most people in our society tend to elevate both eyewitness testimony and confessions to be on par or even above physical evidence, sometimes even DNA evidence, in terms of validity and accuracy. I believe this is a problem. There are many studies which show the fallibility and malleability of memories and personal claims, especially when a certain outcome is assumed or desired. For example, I recently shed light on how President Dwight D. Eisenhower changed his story about an alleged conversation he had with Henry Stimson regarding the use of the atomic bomb in Japan. It is possible he believed his own claim, even though the substance of his claim changed over time and cannot be corroborated, even indirectly, with anyone else's recollection or other evidence.

    When it comes to a crime, a lack of physical evidence can exacerbate the problem. The human element, or a particular bias, can even taint the interpretation of physical evidence when it is available. This is no doubt a significant factor in wrongful convictions, both today and especially in the past. For various reasons, people have admitted to crimes which they did not commit. And although environmental pressure and different types of physical and psychological influence often play a role in false confessions, they are not always a necessary factor. That said, what you believe is up to you. Confessions or admissions of guilt are certainly not always false. The takeaway from all the references I posted is really to understand the possibility of bias, the inherent accuracy or inaccuracy of claims, and to give different types of evidence a proper weight.

  • Research is rather easier now than it was in 1984. I must admit it took me no more than 5-10 minutes to discover all the references I used, though it takes rather longer to write down a theory that can be used by others.

    All I did was Google the names of the mother, the father, and both sets of grandparents. Obituaries, wedding announcements, baptism records, and pre-compiled genealogies float immediately to the surface – the WikiTree entries run back to about 1800. I think the trees are complete because the Murdoch progenitors are British-ish and middle class.

    I myself am satisfied that someone took a look at Rupert Greene and immediately thought j’accuse. My curiosity ended there. It is possible something interesting might emerge about the Greene family from before 1800. My impression is that the line is less well-established than the others, though perhaps it is only that Irish records are not yet as extensively digitized. I would not bother digging based on a sketch portrait of William Henry Greene alone – I don’t see much there, but a more motivated person might try.
    https://peopleaustralia.anu.edu.au/biography/greene-william-henry-16241

    Incidentally, the father Keith Arthur Murdoch was the son of a Presbyterian minister, Patrick John Murdoch. The Murdoch paternal line runs back to Scotland.
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Murdoch-208
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Murdoch-207

  • Dr. William Pierce performed an invaluable public service by meticulously compiling a succinct compilation of the Jewish controlled mass media conglomerates. The pamphlet is titled “Who Rules America”, and while you can purchase a copy from Amazon, I’ve provided a link to a free online, downloadable copy.

    https://www.academia.edu/40165958/Who_rules_America

  • eah says:
    @Jared Taylor fan
    @g8way

    If the holocaust is fake, how does one explain the quotes attributed to various Nazi officers in which they seem to speak directly about exterminating the Jews? The Wikipedia article "Evidence for the holocaust" contains several such quotations.

    I ask sincerely.

    Replies: @Phil Barker, @eah

    The ‘Holocaust’ isn’t the topic here, but it is related in that it serves as a sort of ‘get out of jail free’ card for Jews, and the media makes the most of it, whether you believe primarily Jews own or control the media or not.

    Note 1) the ‘Holocaust’ is the planned/attempted extermination of Jews, especially via gas chambers located in ‘death camps’ specifically constructed (parts of them anyway) for that purpose, 2) in an adversarial court proceeding, both sides can present evidence, and have a chance to impeach evidence presented by the other side, and guilt to a ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ standard must be established, and 3) today one can examine what evidence has been historically presented for the ‘Holocaust’ since the end of WWII in a more sober way than was possible (or done) just after the war.

    Regarding 3), many revisionists have examined the record, and concluded that not only is there no forensic evidence, but other evidence, especially the documentary evidence, is far from convincing.

    Evidence and documentation for the Holocaust

    Rather than refer to the entire page, maybe you can point to particular things you see there that you find convincing — I’m not going to read the entire article, but right away I can tell you that the foto with the caption Corpses found at Klooga concentration camp by the Red Army is not evidence for the ‘Holocaust’ — nothing is said about how they died, and it’s known that the Germans were unable provide basics like food, clean water, and medical care to the camps at the end of the war, and many inmates weakened and died as a result — the German state had collapsed.

  • @Jared Taylor fan
    @g8way

    If the holocaust is fake, how does one explain the quotes attributed to various Nazi officers in which they seem to speak directly about exterminating the Jews? The Wikipedia article "Evidence for the holocaust" contains several such quotations.

    I ask sincerely.

    Replies: @Phil Barker, @eah

    While popular understanding may suggest that innocent people simply do not confess to crimes (“I would never confess to doing something that I did not actually do!”), the surprising fact is that false confessions happen—and perhaps more frequently than we would like to believe.

    According to the National Registry of Exonerations, there have been over 2,500 exonerations since 1989… Surprisingly, approximately 12% of these defendants had falsely confessed to committing the crime. This indicates not only that false confessions happen, but that hundreds of people have falsely confessed to crimes that they did not commit.

    Source: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/so-sue-me/202009/the-psychology-false-confessions
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    [MORE]

    In 2000, Scheck and collaborators analyzed 62 cases of wrongfully convicted individuals who had been exonerated by DNA evidence and found that approximately 24 percent involved false confessions. Finally, a 2008 empirical study found that 16 percent of the first 200 individuals exonerated by postconviction DNA testing in the United States had false confessions introduced during their trials. Despite the variability of results in these studies, the message is clear: the risk of wrongful conviction based on false confession is genuine. […]

    Kassin and Keichel categorized false confessions into three types: voluntary, coerced-compliant, and coerced-internalized. Voluntary false confessions come about in the absence of overwhelming external stressors by law enforcement. Instead, observes Gudjonsson, an individual may be seeking notoriety, may have guilty feelings about some other transgression, may have an inability to distinguish reality from fantasy, or may be attempting to protect another person. Coerced-compliant false confessions are offered in an attempt to avoid external pressure or to obtain a reward. However, within this framework, the confessor subjectively does not accept the confession as true. Coerced-internalized false confessions involve an innocent person who, because of confusion and the stress of the interrogation, begins to accept criminal responsibility.

    Source: https://jaapl.org/content/38/2/174
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    Once a suspect starts talking, the police can use a variety of techniques to make the accused feel as though they are better off confessing than continuing to deny (these include promises of leniency and threats of harsher interrogation or sentences). If a suspect feels like a conviction is inevitable not matter what he or she says, confessing may seem like a good idea.

    But, in some cases, the accused comes to believe that he or she actually did commit the crime. It’s been shown repeatedly that memory is quite malleable and unreliable. Elizabeth Loftus has repeatedly shown that the human brain can create memories out of thin air with some prompting. In a famous series of experiments, Loftus, APS Past President, was able to help people create memories for events that never happened in their lives simply through prompting. She helped them “remember” being lost in a shopping mall when they were children, and the longer the experiment went on, the more details they “remembered.” The longer police interrogate a suspect, emphatic about his guilt and peppering their interrogation with details of the crime, the more likely a suspect is to become convinced himself.

    Joseph Dick claims that this is what happened to him. His confession, testimony, and apology to the family were not lies, he maintains, but rather the product of a false memory. “It didn’t cross my mind that I was lying,” he said. “I believed what I was saying was true.”

    Source: https://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/the-psychology-and-power-of-false-confessions
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    … false confessions typically contain not only an admission of guilt but also numerous content cues commonly associated with truth telling. In an analyzed sample of 38 proven false confessions, most contained accurate details about the crime that police had communicated to the suspect, inadvertently or purposefully, through the process of interrogation (Garrett, 2010). Moreover, a content analysis of 20 false confessions showed that besides containing visual and auditory details that formed a story of what each suspect allegedly did, many included statements of motivation, assertions of voluntariness, hand-drawn sketches, and apologies and expressions of remorse (Appleby, Hasel, & Kassin, 2013).

    Source: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2372732214548678

    • Thanks: anarchyst
  • @tamberlint
    @Ron Unz

    I see the same Candour UK article quoted in an article attributed to 9/11 Chris Bollyn from 2011:


    “Rupert’s father Sir Keith Murdoch attained his prominent position in Australian society through a fortuitous marriage to the daughter of a wealthy Jewish family, née Elisabeth Joy Greene. Through his wife’s connections, Keith Murdoch was subsequently promoted from reporter to chairman of the British-owned newspaper where he worked. There was enough money to buy himself a knighthood of the British realm, two newspapers in Adelaide, South Australia, and a radio station in a faraway mining town,” Candour wrote in 1984. “For some reason, Murdoch has always tried to hide the fact that his pious mother brought him up as a Jew.”

    -http://www.whale.to/a/murdoch1.html

     

    I hazard to guess that Rupert Murdoch's maternal grandfather Rupert Greene inspired the rumors.

    Rupert Greene, variously listed as merchant, wool broker, wool expert, and gambler, appears to have been a lunatic. He does not appear to have been Jewish.

    The assertions in Candour UK are contradicted by Elisabeth Joy Murdoch née Greene's obituaries from 2012, published in the Guardian and the Sydney Morning Herald. The Guardian article states that Murdoch's mother was 19 when she married Murdoch's father, who was already 42 and established. Rupert Greener was impecunious. The Sydney Morning Herald adds that Elisabeth's school fees had to be paid by a family friend (surname Riddoch) and the Greene family house took boarders.

    Born in 1909, Elisabeth Greene was the youngest of three daughters. Her father, Rupert Greene, worked in the specialised wool trade for the New Zealand Loan and Mercantile Agency. Her father, she says, was a wicked gambler. "People loved Dad but he was a poor provider."

    Money was sometimes scarce and there were family rows. She remembers on one occasion her father telling her: "I'm going to cut your mother up and put her in a little black box under the gardenia."

    A romantic meeting with Keith Murdoch offered a way out. He saw a debutante photograph of the 18-year-old Elisabeth in a gossip column of one of his publications and announced that he wanted to meet her. He was considered to be Melbourne and Sydney's most eligible bachelor, but to Elisabeth he was "a shy man who realised I was shy too". Even so, when he telephoned to invite her out for a drive she accepted without her parents' permission. They later said: "No nice girl ever goes out with an older man like that," and she had to run the gauntlet of disapproval in their social set.

    - https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/feb/20/interview-elizabeth-murdoch

     

    Rupert Greene, wool broker:

    "Elisabeth Joy Greene was born in Melbourne on February 8, 1909, the youngest of three daughters of a wool broker, Rupert Greene, a reckless Anglo-Irish charmer, whom they all loved but whose gambling regularly forced the family to let their Toorak home... Some enterprising and influential friends organised Rupert's appointment as the official starter for the VRC and VATC, a position which forbade him from betting. This reduced but did not eradicate financial crises and surely influenced a sense of thrift in his daughters' lives.

    At 14, after several governesses, Elisabeth was sent to board at Clyde, at Mount Macedon, where she thrived, especially in sport. Her godfather, an old family friend, John Riddoch, paid the fees.

    Keith Murdoch, 42-year-old Herald editor and power broker, had sought out the 18-year-old Elisabeth, just out of school. He had seen her photo in a society gossip magazine. "

    -https://www.smh.com.au/national/benevolent-matriarch-of-a-dynasty-20121206-2ay5c.html

     

    Rupert Greene, merchant, wool expert:
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Forth-60

    Rupert Greene's father is the Irish train commissioner William Henry Greene and his mother is English, Fanny Covett, whose family is from Somerset.
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Greene-1753
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Govett-4
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Govett-5

    The Covett father and brothers had sheep farms in Australia. That's where the sheep ranch is from, if visits to sheep ranches there were.
    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/190315798/george-govett

    Perhaps the Guardian was duped. Perhaps William Henry Greene was a secret money-changer when not surveying the countryside of NSW or perhaps a smuggler! while transiting up and down the lost continent. Perhaps Greene's forefathers sailed across the channel with William the Conqueror, snuck ashore Ireland after falling off the Armada (his father had cousins in SPAIN), or stole across in the equipage of William of Orange and spent the next few hundred years deeply occulting their identity while reading the Talmud under the covers. Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.

    On balance, I think it is reasonable to arrive at the conclusion that Rupert Murdoch is Anglo-Irish. He is just personally awful.

    Replies: @tamberlint, @Ron Unz

    I hazard to guess that Rupert Murdoch’s maternal grandfather Rupert Greene inspired the rumors.

    Rupert Greene, variously listed as merchant, wool broker, wool expert, and gambler, appears to have been a lunatic. He does not appear to have been Jewish.

    Thanks for your very diligent research on that point. I’ve seen the claim about Rupert Murdoch’s mother hundreds of times over the years and although I was very skeptical, I never bothered looking into it. But it’s nice to now have some solid references that I can provide people.

    Since conspiracy-activists correctly believe that the MSM is often dishonest, they mistakenly jump to the conclusion that claims in alt-media should be accepted without proof, and as a result they often make themselves look ridiculous.

    As I’ve said on a number of occasions, something like 90-95% of all the conspiracy-theories I’ve investigated have turned out to be false or at least unsubstantiated and this widespread nonsense about Murdoch clearly falls into that category.

    • Thanks: tamberlint
  • @Ron Unz
    Well, I had a chance to read through the article and I think the analysis it provides (lacking any links, references, or statistics to support its claims) seems exceptionally foolish to me. Frankly, it would have been more appropriate on April 1st.

    Indeed, I think that Jewish/pro-Israel control over the Western MSM is far greater and more obvious than it's ever been in the past.

    For example, over the last eight months, Israel had been committing on a daily basis the worst televised massacre in the history of the world, while trying to incite a regional war involving the US and Iran, and virtually no one in the MSM has the courage to criticize what is happening.

    Although the way, several Jewish billionaires managed to purge the presidents of two Ivy League schools for being insufficiently pro-Jewish, something unprecedented in all of American academic history, and virtually no one in the MSM dared criticize this action. All across the nation, riot police were called onto campuses to brutally beat peaceful student demonstrators, and once again not a peek from the MSM. Here's a relevant recent article of mine:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/israel-gaza-the-masks-come-off-in-american-society/

    Obviously, virtually 100% of everyone in the MSM is absolutely terrified of being purged for being insufficiently pro-Jewish.

    This article brings to mind the Stalin purges of the 1930s, during which Stalin purged/executed something like 70% of the top Communist Party leadership and also 70% of the top Soviet generals. Suppose someone at that point had written an article saying Stalin had obviously lost all his power in the USSR.

    Furthermore, since the author never bothered listing any of America's most powerful media organizations, here are a few off the top of my head:

    (1) Google/Alphabet (Jewish owned)

    (2) Facebook/Meta (Jewish owned)

    (3) Comcast/NBC (Jewish owned)

    (4) Paramount/CBS (Jewish owned)

    (5) Fox (Non-Jewish)

    (6) New York Times (Jewish owned)

    (7) Disney/ABC (Jewish controlled)

    (8) Warner Brothers Discovery (Jewish controlled)

    (9) IAC (Jewish owned)

    I'm sure I missed a couple, but if 80-90% of all of America's most powerful media companies are Jewish owned or controlled that hardly affirms the claims in this extremely silly article.

    Replies: @John Trout, @Mr Bullister, @mulga mumblebrain, @Unbornawakened, @Colin Wright, @Hennie, @niteranger, @Anonymous, @Tallest Skil, @J.K. Wilson, @Jonah Gathers, @Haxo Angmark, @Carroll Price, @Mr. Meme, @Voltaria Voltaire, @Robert Lindsay, @Anon, @Noble Seed

    Thought Fox News was owned by Australian Jewish Murdock?

  • @g8way
    Holocaust Believer.
    Considers "WASP" a meaningful category.
    Considers Carroll Quigley authoritative.
    Believes Jewish influence has been waning in the West.
    Categorizes people in 3 groups: Jews, antisemites, and sane people.

    Replies: @Mr Bullister, @Jon Halpenny, @2stateshmoostate, @Rev. Spooner, @Jared Taylor fan

    If the holocaust is fake, how does one explain the quotes attributed to various Nazi officers in which they seem to speak directly about exterminating the Jews? The Wikipedia article “Evidence for the holocaust” contains several such quotations.

    I ask sincerely.

    • Replies: @Phil Barker
    @Jared Taylor fan


    While popular understanding may suggest that innocent people simply do not confess to crimes (“I would never confess to doing something that I did not actually do!”), the surprising fact is that false confessions happen—and perhaps more frequently than we would like to believe.

    According to the National Registry of Exonerations, there have been over 2,500 exonerations since 1989… Surprisingly, approximately 12% of these defendants had falsely confessed to committing the crime. This indicates not only that false confessions happen, but that hundreds of people have falsely confessed to crimes that they did not commit.
     
    Source: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/so-sue-me/202009/the-psychology-false-confessions
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    In 2000, Scheck and collaborators analyzed 62 cases of wrongfully convicted individuals who had been exonerated by DNA evidence and found that approximately 24 percent involved false confessions. Finally, a 2008 empirical study found that 16 percent of the first 200 individuals exonerated by postconviction DNA testing in the United States had false confessions introduced during their trials. Despite the variability of results in these studies, the message is clear: the risk of wrongful conviction based on false confession is genuine. [...]

    Kassin and Keichel categorized false confessions into three types: voluntary, coerced-compliant, and coerced-internalized. Voluntary false confessions come about in the absence of overwhelming external stressors by law enforcement. Instead, observes Gudjonsson, an individual may be seeking notoriety, may have guilty feelings about some other transgression, may have an inability to distinguish reality from fantasy, or may be attempting to protect another person. Coerced-compliant false confessions are offered in an attempt to avoid external pressure or to obtain a reward. However, within this framework, the confessor subjectively does not accept the confession as true. Coerced-internalized false confessions involve an innocent person who, because of confusion and the stress of the interrogation, begins to accept criminal responsibility.
     
    Source: https://jaapl.org/content/38/2/174
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    Once a suspect starts talking, the police can use a variety of techniques to make the accused feel as though they are better off confessing than continuing to deny (these include promises of leniency and threats of harsher interrogation or sentences). If a suspect feels like a conviction is inevitable not matter what he or she says, confessing may seem like a good idea.

    But, in some cases, the accused comes to believe that he or she actually did commit the crime. It’s been shown repeatedly that memory is quite malleable and unreliable. Elizabeth Loftus has repeatedly shown that the human brain can create memories out of thin air with some prompting. In a famous series of experiments, Loftus, APS Past President, was able to help people create memories for events that never happened in their lives simply through prompting. She helped them “remember” being lost in a shopping mall when they were children, and the longer the experiment went on, the more details they “remembered.” The longer police interrogate a suspect, emphatic about his guilt and peppering their interrogation with details of the crime, the more likely a suspect is to become convinced himself.

    Joseph Dick claims that this is what happened to him. His confession, testimony, and apology to the family were not lies, he maintains, but rather the product of a false memory. “It didn’t cross my mind that I was lying,” he said. “I believed what I was saying was true.”
     
    Source: https://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/the-psychology-and-power-of-false-confessions
    -------------------------------------------------------

    ... false confessions typically contain not only an admission of guilt but also numerous content cues commonly associated with truth telling. In an analyzed sample of 38 proven false confessions, most contained accurate details about the crime that police had communicated to the suspect, inadvertently or purposefully, through the process of interrogation (Garrett, 2010). Moreover, a content analysis of 20 false confessions showed that besides containing visual and auditory details that formed a story of what each suspect allegedly did, many included statements of motivation, assertions of voluntariness, hand-drawn sketches, and apologies and expressions of remorse (Appleby, Hasel, & Kassin, 2013).
     
    Source: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2372732214548678
    , @eah
    @Jared Taylor fan

    The 'Holocaust' isn't the topic here, but it is related in that it serves as a sort of 'get out of jail free' card for Jews, and the media makes the most of it, whether you believe primarily Jews own or control the media or not.

    Note 1) the 'Holocaust' is the planned/attempted extermination of Jews, especially via gas chambers located in 'death camps' specifically constructed (parts of them anyway) for that purpose, 2) in an adversarial court proceeding, both sides can present evidence, and have a chance to impeach evidence presented by the other side, and guilt to a 'beyond a reasonable doubt' standard must be established, and 3) today one can examine what evidence has been historically presented for the 'Holocaust' since the end of WWII in a more sober way than was possible (or done) just after the war.

    Regarding 3), many revisionists have examined the record, and concluded that not only is there no forensic evidence, but other evidence, especially the documentary evidence, is far from convincing.

    Evidence and documentation for the Holocaust

    Rather than refer to the entire page, maybe you can point to particular things you see there that you find convincing -- I'm not going to read the entire article, but right away I can tell you that the foto with the caption Corpses found at Klooga concentration camp by the Red Army is not evidence for the 'Holocaust' -- nothing is said about how they died, and it's known that the Germans were unable provide basics like food, clean water, and medical care to the camps at the end of the war, and many inmates weakened and died as a result -- the German state had collapsed.

  • There’s no such thing as the Canadian Broadcasting Network. The CBC on the other hand is owned by the gummint. Suck less, won’t you?

  • @Commentator Mike
    @mulga mumblebrain

    It's all very suspicious. They moved this techno party right next to the Gaza fence and then the IDF slaughtered most of the party goers, who were presumably the least racist and least Zionist of Jews, just young people wanting to have some fun. Maybe they wanted to be rid of these types anyway and found a convenient way to sacrifice them while using their deaths to fire up support for Zionist Israel and turn even the more moderate Jews against the Palestinians. It was all rather convenient.

    Some Hamas and rowdy Gazans may have joined in this or they could have been actors in scenes recorded in some desert location for propaganda purposes. Who knows if there even was a cross fence incursion and kidnappings of hostages? Gazans woke up to buildings falling on them and the pre-recorded videos and images of the supposed Hamas incursion were broadcast to the world to demonise the Palestinians victims. Not saying I know exactly what went down but this chain of events could be possible. I guess there could also be the possibility that the IDF didn't kill any party goers as they could have been crisis actors too. As the old cowboy on the defunct nodisinfo site would say "Zionists did it", whatever it may have been.

    Replies: @anarchyst

    It’s called the “Hannibal Directive” and has been a part of israeli policy since the inception of the (illegal) state of israel.
    In fact, the Munich Olympics affair was a prime example of the “Hannibal Directive” in operation. It was successful as it demonized Palestinians for a very long time and got israel (unwarranted) sympathy from the world…

  • Robert Lindsay: “I don’t believe that all Israel supporters are bought off or terrorized into supporting them. … There seems to be a big tie-in with Christian Zionism too. … There are quite a few Gentiles out there who support Israel for this reason or that without some extraneous pressure being put upon them. ”

    Yes, Jews only have as much power as whites give them. If whites are “brainwashed” or “controlled” it’s because they want to be.

    • Agree: Robert Lindsay
  • @cousin lucky
    @Rol

    What if? - If Donald Trump is elected POTUS will the President of Ukraine be willing to tell Trump, and his team, where all of the Biden Family dirt is in Ukraine?

    Mr. Trump must want a lot of revenge for all of the humiliation and suffering he endured making that phone call while he was President.

    Replies: @Skeptikal, @NeverTrustaWizard

    The murmers of revenge are for the benefit of Magtards, Zion Don will not go after his enemies.

    How do I know?

    1. Not one enemy of Trump went to prison his first term, not even the weakest.

    2. He is clearly on the same side as the people who persecuted him, different teams, but the same side.

    3. Most of his talk regarding his persecution is reconcilatry “can’t we all just get along” bootlicking.

    4. He spent 4 years groveling for the approval of his “enemies” as they attacked, we no reason to believe he won’t do it again….well, not the Magtards, Trump was playing 4d chess, he’s not a weak narcissist that’s wants back into the circles he once lived in.

    Mark my words, every appointee in a crucial position will be what is good for the K mafia, the MIC, the PIC, ect.

    He won’t be able to take revenge even if he wanted to.

  • Sir,
    You contradict yourself right from the beginning of your article when you write:

    Jews don’t own the media. 25-30 years ago you could say that, but it’s not true anymore.

    Which you contradict when immediately writing:

    Turns out they definitely own a substantial portion of it but not the whole thing by any means.

    If you compare these numbers percentage wise with the % of the Jewish population then you should immediately realize it’s a contradiction.

    They own not only the media and Hollywood but the brains of the average American not only the ruling class who are their in laws.

    • Agree: Robert Lindsay
  • @mulga mumblebrain
    @eah

    Lying swine. Hamas committed an act of RESISTANCE, protected under International Law. Hamas killed mostly military, and it was Zionazi 'friendly fire' and Hannibal Procedure deliberate murder that killed most of the civilians.
    'Defence' does NOT confer a right to genocide and mass child murder, no matter how central these are to your Judaic religious practise. So shut your sniveling, genocide approving, mouth, you accomplice to genocide. And the vast majority of humanity, including much of Western publics, you lying pos, does NOT acquiesce in this genocide, although you, you vicious thug, plainly do.

    Replies: @Commentator Mike

    It’s all very suspicious. They moved this techno party right next to the Gaza fence and then the IDF slaughtered most of the party goers, who were presumably the least racist and least Zionist of Jews, just young people wanting to have some fun. Maybe they wanted to be rid of these types anyway and found a convenient way to sacrifice them while using their deaths to fire up support for Zionist Israel and turn even the more moderate Jews against the Palestinians. It was all rather convenient.

    Some Hamas and rowdy Gazans may have joined in this or they could have been actors in scenes recorded in some desert location for propaganda purposes. Who knows if there even was a cross fence incursion and kidnappings of hostages? Gazans woke up to buildings falling on them and the pre-recorded videos and images of the supposed Hamas incursion were broadcast to the world to demonise the Palestinians victims. Not saying I know exactly what went down but this chain of events could be possible. I guess there could also be the possibility that the IDF didn’t kill any party goers as they could have been crisis actors too. As the old cowboy on the defunct nodisinfo site would say “Zionists did it”, whatever it may have been.

    • Thanks: anarchyst
    • Replies: @anarchyst
    @Commentator Mike

    It's called the "Hannibal Directive" and has been a part of israeli policy since the inception of the (illegal) state of israel.
    In fact, the Munich Olympics affair was a prime example of the "Hannibal Directive" in operation. It was successful as it demonized Palestinians for a very long time and got israel (unwarranted) sympathy from the world...

  • Anon[851] • Disclaimer says:

    If the spectacle of the world’s richest man being tarred and feathered and forced to bend the knee to Jewish power doesn’t convince you that Zionist Jews are the rulers of America, nothing will. The question of whether there is gentile representation in some editorial board or not is irrelevant, as long as Jews can combine and focus their media and economic extremely disproportionate influence to create what is in essence control of every aspect of American policy that they deem relevant to their interests:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/elon-musk-goes-to-canossa/

  • You raise some good points but in the end you get wishy washy. One point about Canada up there, where a Cousin is a Professor. Research a company called Post Media and its history and who owns and controls it now…like de facto. They own and 100% control all of the major dailies in Canada amongst other things. Jews. Woe betide anyone who bad mouths Israel going back decades…deleted, banned , fired etc.

    • Thanks: Robert Lindsay
  • Anon[851] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz
    Well, I had a chance to read through the article and I think the analysis it provides (lacking any links, references, or statistics to support its claims) seems exceptionally foolish to me. Frankly, it would have been more appropriate on April 1st.

    Indeed, I think that Jewish/pro-Israel control over the Western MSM is far greater and more obvious than it's ever been in the past.

    For example, over the last eight months, Israel had been committing on a daily basis the worst televised massacre in the history of the world, while trying to incite a regional war involving the US and Iran, and virtually no one in the MSM has the courage to criticize what is happening.

    Although the way, several Jewish billionaires managed to purge the presidents of two Ivy League schools for being insufficiently pro-Jewish, something unprecedented in all of American academic history, and virtually no one in the MSM dared criticize this action. All across the nation, riot police were called onto campuses to brutally beat peaceful student demonstrators, and once again not a peek from the MSM. Here's a relevant recent article of mine:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/israel-gaza-the-masks-come-off-in-american-society/

    Obviously, virtually 100% of everyone in the MSM is absolutely terrified of being purged for being insufficiently pro-Jewish.

    This article brings to mind the Stalin purges of the 1930s, during which Stalin purged/executed something like 70% of the top Communist Party leadership and also 70% of the top Soviet generals. Suppose someone at that point had written an article saying Stalin had obviously lost all his power in the USSR.

    Furthermore, since the author never bothered listing any of America's most powerful media organizations, here are a few off the top of my head:

    (1) Google/Alphabet (Jewish owned)

    (2) Facebook/Meta (Jewish owned)

    (3) Comcast/NBC (Jewish owned)

    (4) Paramount/CBS (Jewish owned)

    (5) Fox (Non-Jewish)

    (6) New York Times (Jewish owned)

    (7) Disney/ABC (Jewish controlled)

    (8) Warner Brothers Discovery (Jewish controlled)

    (9) IAC (Jewish owned)

    I'm sure I missed a couple, but if 80-90% of all of America's most powerful media companies are Jewish owned or controlled that hardly affirms the claims in this extremely silly article.

    Replies: @John Trout, @Mr Bullister, @mulga mumblebrain, @Unbornawakened, @Colin Wright, @Hennie, @niteranger, @Anonymous, @Tallest Skil, @J.K. Wilson, @Jonah Gathers, @Haxo Angmark, @Carroll Price, @Mr. Meme, @Voltaria Voltaire, @Robert Lindsay, @Anon, @Noble Seed

    Twitter – not Jewish owned, but as you brilliantly recounted in your article, the naive Elon Musk was briskly introduced to the real rulers of America and under a threat of advertisers ban / negative press / who knows what else – quickly sojourned to Kanossa and bent the knee. Since then, virtually all pro-Palestinian anti-genocide voices report their reach has been curtailed and Twitter overflows with Zio-bots promoted posts.

    Tik-Tok – not Jewish owned, and we all know how this one ends (pretty straight forward: ZOG already mandated: sell to Jews or be banned).

    • Thanks: Adam Birchdale
  • Jews don’t own the media.

    Turns out they definitely own a substantial portion of it …

    Is it worth reading this article past two of the first four sentences contradicting each other?

    Because the second sentence agrees with the actual claim, while the first is a strawman placed to sow confusion and refute the second, which doesn’t fool a careful reader.

    Nobody claims Jews own the media. Many people claim Jews disproportionally own the media.

  • @mulga mumblebrain
    You do not need to be Judeophobic, which plays right into their hands and is morally impermissible. We must demand that Jews are treated like all others, no better, no worse. There you kill the power of the Jewintern and the 'antisemitism' smear in one blow, and probably spare the Jews from a hideous reaction that is coming, and which will harm us all. Unless Israel and the Zionazis are recognised for the hideous evils that they are, all is lost.

    Replies: @gidoutahere, @Event Horizon

    It is amazing to me the extent to which Zionism has displaced and replaced Bible-based Christianity in many churches. I used to attend a Baptist church where this bizarre ideology has taken root.

    When I protested to the Pastor about pursing this belief system and explained my objections owing to leftist Jewish influence in/ownership of western banking/usury and in shaping US domestic as well as foreign policies, he’d either tune me out or look at me as if I was speaking Saami. When I asked him, “how would you feel if they conscripted and sent your grandson off to the Middle East as a soldier, there to die in wars that only benefit Israel?” his answer was, “is there something wrong with that?”

    Worship of the modern state of Israel and worship of Jewish people seems to have taken the place of worshipping the Lord Jesus Christ as Savior and as Lord.

    It’s idolatry, nothing less.

  • @DanFromCT
    The author’s amateur stab at Jewish power over America’s media is immediately refuted by E. Michael Jones’s Jewish Revolutionary Spirit. His books are scholarly and great reads. The same goes for Kevin MacDonald’s Culture of Critique, although there’s more than a whiff of Judeophilia in Dr. MacDonald’s fawning accusation that the Jews’ successes are due to their putatively superior intelligence.

    Interacting with Jews in business, however, suggests collusion, not greater intelligence, is the explanation the author is looking for, and their control over the determinants of public opinion is as obvious as turning on the TV or going to the movies.

    The author also fails to mention the US Congress, which even AIPAC gloats is as much a Jewish fiefdom as the Knesset in Israel. One prominent Jew is on record as claiming, in words to the effect, that ‘We Jews control the re-election of all but maybe five of the 535 members of Congress’. And as Dr. Jones likes to joke, the “Biden Administration” is a fig leaf for 457 Jews.

    Their influence is everywhere. The former head of the Hebrew Immigration Aid Society, an anti-white, genocidal front posing as a charity, was confirmed by Congress to head the DHS, an act so treasonous that all who voted for his confirmation should be tried for capital treason.

    This appointment is exactly as if a Jew in his capacity as a Jew were apppointed by the “Biden Administration” (ie, 457 Jews) and confirmed by AIPAC’s footstools in Congress to oversee with tens of billions of our tax dollars the invasion of the United States. And, this invasion, which is what it is, is by mostly military-age, anti-American, sleeper criminal-combatants, effectively annihilating our sovereignty as a nation. Now that’s some control worth considering.

    Replies: @Redpill Boomer, @Sir Launcelot Canning, @Poupon Marx, @Sarah, @Brennan, @Event Horizon

    Excellent summary and analysis. Last paragraph is a tour de force.

  • @Harlot
    Made me laugh. The Gentiles are presented and not 100% Jewish but most support Jewish values
    and Israel. Like Biden or Trump or most Congress are not Jews but OWNED by them like AIPAC
    ADL and other America loving organizations. Israel and Zionists give orders by blackmail and
    mostly silver bribing. This is the case with the US and most Western slaves.
    Support for Gaza genoside shows exactly who is OWNED. Not just a coutry but EU Union with a
    slave Ursula or even bribed slaves in Muslim world which is very toublesome but eventually
    understood considering the silver involved.
    Like Benjamin Disraeli, the Jewish PM in England said almost 200 years ago:
    "The world is governed by persons far diffrent than is assumed. They're unseen and stay
    behind the scenes".
    Another reminder about how the Jew own the Gentiles is the wars, revolutions, coups, 9/11
    Covid, Climate change or Net Zero, LGBTQ, BLM, Antifa and many more "Jewish values".
    As Maurice Samuel said:
    https://www.azquotes.com/quote/685174
    And Franz Liszt:
    https://www.azquotes.com/quote/1003924

    https://www.azquotes.com/quote/614686

    There are many books about the history to see and understand the Jewish question.
    Henry Makow has some perspective as well.

    Replies: @mulga mumblebrain

    Anthropogenic climate destabilisation is stark reality, is accelerating, and it takes a true imbecile or some sort of vicious, brainwashed, Rightwing psychopath to deny it as weather and climate disasters proliferate and worsen.

  • @eah
    @Skeptikal

    >It is incomprehensible.

    This isn't the topic here -- but I've explained the rationale for what's going on a number of times before, e.g. here: most of the rest of the world, including 'the West', acknowledges that Hamas committed an act of war against Israel, and Israel has a right to defend itself and secure its existence by attempting to eliminate a sworn, mortal enemy (it's in the charter of Hamas).

    None of what I've said about this should be taken as my personal opinion about the military campaign of the Jews against Hamas in Gaza: whether they've shown enough concern about civilian casualties and the destruction of civilian infrastructure, the reasonableness of their goal of eliminating Hamas, etc -- it just explains the rationale for the war, which with the Jews is accentuated by the 'Holocaust' extermination story ('never again'), as well as why most of the rest of the world, including 'the West', acquiesces in it.

    Now that it has been explained to you, can stop the plaintive, effeminate posting about how it's all so 'incomprehensible' to you.

    Replies: @Skeptikal, @Colin Wright, @mulga mumblebrain

    Lying swine. Hamas committed an act of RESISTANCE, protected under International Law. Hamas killed mostly military, and it was Zionazi ‘friendly fire’ and Hannibal Procedure deliberate murder that killed most of the civilians.
    ‘Defence’ does NOT confer a right to genocide and mass child murder, no matter how central these are to your Judaic religious practise. So shut your sniveling, genocide approving, mouth, you accomplice to genocide. And the vast majority of humanity, including much of Western publics, you lying pos, does NOT acquiesce in this genocide, although you, you vicious thug, plainly do.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    @mulga mumblebrain

    It's all very suspicious. They moved this techno party right next to the Gaza fence and then the IDF slaughtered most of the party goers, who were presumably the least racist and least Zionist of Jews, just young people wanting to have some fun. Maybe they wanted to be rid of these types anyway and found a convenient way to sacrifice them while using their deaths to fire up support for Zionist Israel and turn even the more moderate Jews against the Palestinians. It was all rather convenient.

    Some Hamas and rowdy Gazans may have joined in this or they could have been actors in scenes recorded in some desert location for propaganda purposes. Who knows if there even was a cross fence incursion and kidnappings of hostages? Gazans woke up to buildings falling on them and the pre-recorded videos and images of the supposed Hamas incursion were broadcast to the world to demonise the Palestinians victims. Not saying I know exactly what went down but this chain of events could be possible. I guess there could also be the possibility that the IDF didn't kill any party goers as they could have been crisis actors too. As the old cowboy on the defunct nodisinfo site would say "Zionists did it", whatever it may have been.

    Replies: @anarchyst

  • @Skeptikal
    @ThreeCranes

    Re "For refutation of the Jew’s claims to having brought moral instruction unto mankind, read the works of Frans de Waal among others. Primatologists at the Max Planck devised experiments which showed that chimps were capable of reasoning morally. If one chimp were given a reward of lesser value for behavior for which a neighbor chimp received something of greater value, both chimps responded in a way that showed that they understood that some elemental notion of Justice had been violated.

    And so on.

    Our moral nature is rooted deeply in our primates-living-in-social-groups evolutionary adaptive strategy."

    I love Franz de Waal but have read just one of his books, Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are? Wonderful. I agree completely with his observations, and the idea, that elemental notions of justice are deep-wired in primates and possibly also "lower" animals.

    I just saw that de Waal died a couple of months ago.
    No! Very sad to learn of this loss to humanity.
    I shall definitely put some of his other books on my "to read" list.

    Replies: @mulga mumblebrain

    As far as we know, Judaism’s injunctions to commit genocide are the oldest extant such tracts. Some ‘moral instruction’, and, as ever, the Gods Upon the Earth act as if China, India, Mesopotamia etc do not exist.

  • @michael888
    Jews make up <3% of the US population. Blacks 13%. Wouldn't one expect 4-fold more Blacks in charge of the media, Hollywood and Wall Street?

    To state that because Jews are not ENTIRELY in control of certain industries then they don't control those industries is absurd. Disproportionate representation by small groups of people and lack of representation by other minorities is a good definition of influence, if not total control.

    Replies: @Robert Lindsay

    I don’t believe that all Israel supporters are bought off or terrorized into supporting them.

    My theory for some time now has been that the Republican Party’s support for Israel is ideological. They don’t get that much money from Jewish interests. Most Jewish money goes to Democrats.

    Of course now that they support Israel so enthusiastically, they all get campaign contributions from AIPAC, but which came first. Perhaps they came out as strong Israel supporters and then AIPAC gave them money to stay that way. I’m not getting the impression that Republicans would love to vote against Israel except that AIPAC is pointing a gun to their head and forcing them not to. Strong, over the top support for Israel looks to be a part of the Republican Party’s ideological package. There seems to be a big tie-in with Christian Zionism too.

    My liberal Democrat father was a strong Israel supporter his whole life. Was he bought off or terrorized. There are quite a few Gentiles out there who support Israel for this reason or that without some extraneous pressure being put upon them.

  • @Dr. Robert Morgan
    Ron Unz: "Obviously, virtually 100% of everyone in the MSM is absolutely terrified of being purged for being insufficiently pro-Jewish."

    It's far from obvious. In fact, I think it's very doubtful. Are we really supposed to believe that someone like Dana Loesch, the female radio host with a nationwide "conservative" audience, who is rabidly pro-Jew and pro-Israel, is only that way because she's terrified of being purged? Isn't it just possible that she sincerely believes her opinion to be right and in accordance with her brand of self-proclaimed Christian morality? Or, in the alternative, that she's just cynically playing to her base, giving them what they want to hear? I think either of those scenarios is far more plausible than that she's "terrified". Likewise with the others in media. Either they're sincere, or just advancing their careers, prostituting themselves, whorishly offering their audiences what sells.

    Of course, Ron's post trashing this article received the enthusiastic endorsement of his carefully assembled menagerie of antisemites here on his own site. But using his logic, we should assume they only did so because they were terrified that he might ban them. It couldn't possibly be that they have their own reasons for agreeing with him. Or, transferring this to a Christian context, we could deduce with equal logic that no one at all truly believes in Jesus. They only say they do because they are terrified of being "purged", and cast into Hell!

    How is it that that non-Jews that the Jews supposedly control always have no agency? To argue thus is reminiscent of the #metoo craze. The #metoo whores claim they were only innocent waifs unfairly taken advantage of by a Jew. They weren't sucking Harvey Weinstein's misshapen cock because they were whores trying to advance their careers. No, no, no! They did it because they were "terrified" they might be purged from the industry if they didn't. But the unspoken truth is that no one forced them to choose that career. They actually do have agency.

    Replies: @Robert Lindsay, @Adûnâi

    I don’t believe that all Israel supporters are bought off or terrorized into supporting them.

    My theory for some time now has been that the Republican Party’s support for Israel is ideological. They don’t get that much money from Jewish interests. Most Jewish money goes to Democrats.

    Of course now that they support Israel so enthusiastically, they all get campaign contributions from AIPAC, but which came first. Perhaps they came out as strong Israel supporters and then AIPAC gave them money to stay that way. I’m not getting the impression that Republicans would love to vote against Israel except that AIPAC is pointing a gun to their head and forcing them not to. Strong, over the top support for Israel looks to be a part of the Republican Party’s ideological package. There seems to be a big tie-in with Christian Zionism too.

    My liberal Democrat father was a strong Israel supporter his whole life. Was he bought off or terrorized. There are quite a few Gentiles out there who support Israel for this reason or that without some extraneous pressure being put upon them.

  • @Astuteobservor II
    Ownership? Did you check the decision making roles? The ones with power to decide are 90+% jewish in all media and Hollywood is the same shit.

    Replies: @Robert Lindsay

    Yes I did. My list above is mostly of top executives. Where available, I also listed top editorship positions.

  • @Ron Unz
    Well, I had a chance to read through the article and I think the analysis it provides (lacking any links, references, or statistics to support its claims) seems exceptionally foolish to me. Frankly, it would have been more appropriate on April 1st.

    Indeed, I think that Jewish/pro-Israel control over the Western MSM is far greater and more obvious than it's ever been in the past.

    For example, over the last eight months, Israel had been committing on a daily basis the worst televised massacre in the history of the world, while trying to incite a regional war involving the US and Iran, and virtually no one in the MSM has the courage to criticize what is happening.

    Although the way, several Jewish billionaires managed to purge the presidents of two Ivy League schools for being insufficiently pro-Jewish, something unprecedented in all of American academic history, and virtually no one in the MSM dared criticize this action. All across the nation, riot police were called onto campuses to brutally beat peaceful student demonstrators, and once again not a peek from the MSM. Here's a relevant recent article of mine:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/israel-gaza-the-masks-come-off-in-american-society/

    Obviously, virtually 100% of everyone in the MSM is absolutely terrified of being purged for being insufficiently pro-Jewish.

    This article brings to mind the Stalin purges of the 1930s, during which Stalin purged/executed something like 70% of the top Communist Party leadership and also 70% of the top Soviet generals. Suppose someone at that point had written an article saying Stalin had obviously lost all his power in the USSR.

    Furthermore, since the author never bothered listing any of America's most powerful media organizations, here are a few off the top of my head:

    (1) Google/Alphabet (Jewish owned)

    (2) Facebook/Meta (Jewish owned)

    (3) Comcast/NBC (Jewish owned)

    (4) Paramount/CBS (Jewish owned)

    (5) Fox (Non-Jewish)

    (6) New York Times (Jewish owned)

    (7) Disney/ABC (Jewish controlled)

    (8) Warner Brothers Discovery (Jewish controlled)

    (9) IAC (Jewish owned)

    I'm sure I missed a couple, but if 80-90% of all of America's most powerful media companies are Jewish owned or controlled that hardly affirms the claims in this extremely silly article.

    Replies: @John Trout, @Mr Bullister, @mulga mumblebrain, @Unbornawakened, @Colin Wright, @Hennie, @niteranger, @Anonymous, @Tallest Skil, @J.K. Wilson, @Jonah Gathers, @Haxo Angmark, @Carroll Price, @Mr. Meme, @Voltaria Voltaire, @Robert Lindsay, @Anon, @Noble Seed

    Israel had been committing on a daily basis the worst televised massacre in the history of the world, while trying to incite a regional war involving the US and Iran, and virtually no one in the MSM has the courage to criticize what is happening.

    Well, Bernie Sanders has been on the MSM saying it’s time to cut off weapons sales to Israel. And twenty Democrats in Congress also said it’s time to cut off weapons sales. That was reported. That many Congressmen advocating cutting off Israel is a watershed, as Phil Weiss has pointed out.

    Also the MSM or at least MSNBC and CNN keep playing up the angle that it would be a terrible idea for Israel to expand the war to Iran or Lebanon and how Biden is trying to stop the expansion of the war, which is probably a correct analysis. Also you leave out that MSNBC, which is almost a Democratic party outlet, hardly wants to cover this war as they think it’s a disaster for the Democratic Party electorally so they’re mostly avoiding coverage of it.

    Several Jewish billionaires managed to purge the presidents of two Ivy League schools for being insufficiently pro-Jewish, something unprecedented in all of American academic history, and virtually no one in the MSM dared criticize this action.

    There was some criticism of this in the MSM, but it was framed as “Republicans going after liberals.” Also quite a few liberal Blacks in the media were very upset about how the Jews went after that Black woman. It was framed as “bad Republicans going after a good liberal Black woman.”

    Stefanik was a Republican so the Democrats were playing it up as Republicans wielding antisemitism cynically. So there was some push back on that. Also some people noted that the thing Stefanik kept pushing, “Would it be legal to call for the extermination of Jews on your campus?” had never actually occurred, and she made it out like this was being called for all the time.

  • It’s curious to me that after all the talk about Jewish control/influence of the Western Media, one item is almost never mentioned. The people who own the MSM–Jewish or not–want to control the Narrative of what the Elites want the Public to hear AND what these Elites do NOT want their audiences to hear. Both of these objectives are crucial to the Elites maintaining Power. For Propaganda to work, you can’t just promote your Propaganda, you have to prevent anyone from challenging your false Narratives. This is why the tiny group of Jewish Billionaires who own the media do not allow dissenting views. Except for some lukewarm, tightly controlled Opposing Views. For the whole thing to work, you have to have a gullible, non thinking General Public. No Critical Thinking abilities allowed; Propaganda fails if the Public has some Critical Thinking skills.

  • @Ron Unz
    Well, I had a chance to read through the article and I think the analysis it provides (lacking any links, references, or statistics to support its claims) seems exceptionally foolish to me. Frankly, it would have been more appropriate on April 1st.

    Indeed, I think that Jewish/pro-Israel control over the Western MSM is far greater and more obvious than it's ever been in the past.

    For example, over the last eight months, Israel had been committing on a daily basis the worst televised massacre in the history of the world, while trying to incite a regional war involving the US and Iran, and virtually no one in the MSM has the courage to criticize what is happening.

    Although the way, several Jewish billionaires managed to purge the presidents of two Ivy League schools for being insufficiently pro-Jewish, something unprecedented in all of American academic history, and virtually no one in the MSM dared criticize this action. All across the nation, riot police were called onto campuses to brutally beat peaceful student demonstrators, and once again not a peek from the MSM. Here's a relevant recent article of mine:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/israel-gaza-the-masks-come-off-in-american-society/

    Obviously, virtually 100% of everyone in the MSM is absolutely terrified of being purged for being insufficiently pro-Jewish.

    This article brings to mind the Stalin purges of the 1930s, during which Stalin purged/executed something like 70% of the top Communist Party leadership and also 70% of the top Soviet generals. Suppose someone at that point had written an article saying Stalin had obviously lost all his power in the USSR.

    Furthermore, since the author never bothered listing any of America's most powerful media organizations, here are a few off the top of my head:

    (1) Google/Alphabet (Jewish owned)

    (2) Facebook/Meta (Jewish owned)

    (3) Comcast/NBC (Jewish owned)

    (4) Paramount/CBS (Jewish owned)

    (5) Fox (Non-Jewish)

    (6) New York Times (Jewish owned)

    (7) Disney/ABC (Jewish controlled)

    (8) Warner Brothers Discovery (Jewish controlled)

    (9) IAC (Jewish owned)

    I'm sure I missed a couple, but if 80-90% of all of America's most powerful media companies are Jewish owned or controlled that hardly affirms the claims in this extremely silly article.

    Replies: @John Trout, @Mr Bullister, @mulga mumblebrain, @Unbornawakened, @Colin Wright, @Hennie, @niteranger, @Anonymous, @Tallest Skil, @J.K. Wilson, @Jonah Gathers, @Haxo Angmark, @Carroll Price, @Mr. Meme, @Voltaria Voltaire, @Robert Lindsay, @Anon, @Noble Seed

    Well Ron, let’s take s look at what Stalin had in common with the current administration in Israel – lots and lots and lots of killing. Fact is people who are obsessively driven to kill and commit other crimes are drawn, like as if by a powerful magnet, to others that also are. So wherever people are getting away with murder and human rights abuses one will find these types gravitating towards. What country hasn’t had organized crime groups? These types of psychos can infiltrate and “hide” in any field (medical, military, finance, judicial, mental health, politics, media, or religion, etc.) that allows them to get away with murder and shun personal responsibility. When one sees large numbers of them in a particular area or zone, it is because they have been able or allowed to get away with it. People have been either prevented from speaking out about it and taking actions against it, or too compromised or gullible about it to confront it, until it is too late. Instead of blaming or putting responsibility on the individual psychotics in favor of murder and human rights abuse, it is all too easy to blame all or any of the zones mentioned above. But all of the zones above could be useful, helpful and beneficial to humanity if not under the manipulative orchestrations of psychotics. If you haven’t already, watch FROM JFK TO 9/11, EVERYTHING IS A RICH MAN’S TRICK :

    Video Link
    Actually, I would much rather it was titled FROM JFK TO 9/11, EVERYTHING IS A DIRTY RICH MANS TRICK, mainly because I have never observed money killing anyone. Just like guns which don’t go off by themselves unless someone programs them to, or pulls the trigger, they won’t kill. But psychos like lots of money because it enables them to do more killing with impunity. Money can be used for good. It’s all too rare.

  • @tamberlint
    @Ron Unz

    I see the same Candour UK article quoted in an article attributed to 9/11 Chris Bollyn from 2011:


    “Rupert’s father Sir Keith Murdoch attained his prominent position in Australian society through a fortuitous marriage to the daughter of a wealthy Jewish family, née Elisabeth Joy Greene. Through his wife’s connections, Keith Murdoch was subsequently promoted from reporter to chairman of the British-owned newspaper where he worked. There was enough money to buy himself a knighthood of the British realm, two newspapers in Adelaide, South Australia, and a radio station in a faraway mining town,” Candour wrote in 1984. “For some reason, Murdoch has always tried to hide the fact that his pious mother brought him up as a Jew.”

    -http://www.whale.to/a/murdoch1.html

     

    I hazard to guess that Rupert Murdoch's maternal grandfather Rupert Greene inspired the rumors.

    Rupert Greene, variously listed as merchant, wool broker, wool expert, and gambler, appears to have been a lunatic. He does not appear to have been Jewish.

    The assertions in Candour UK are contradicted by Elisabeth Joy Murdoch née Greene's obituaries from 2012, published in the Guardian and the Sydney Morning Herald. The Guardian article states that Murdoch's mother was 19 when she married Murdoch's father, who was already 42 and established. Rupert Greener was impecunious. The Sydney Morning Herald adds that Elisabeth's school fees had to be paid by a family friend (surname Riddoch) and the Greene family house took boarders.

    Born in 1909, Elisabeth Greene was the youngest of three daughters. Her father, Rupert Greene, worked in the specialised wool trade for the New Zealand Loan and Mercantile Agency. Her father, she says, was a wicked gambler. "People loved Dad but he was a poor provider."

    Money was sometimes scarce and there were family rows. She remembers on one occasion her father telling her: "I'm going to cut your mother up and put her in a little black box under the gardenia."

    A romantic meeting with Keith Murdoch offered a way out. He saw a debutante photograph of the 18-year-old Elisabeth in a gossip column of one of his publications and announced that he wanted to meet her. He was considered to be Melbourne and Sydney's most eligible bachelor, but to Elisabeth he was "a shy man who realised I was shy too". Even so, when he telephoned to invite her out for a drive she accepted without her parents' permission. They later said: "No nice girl ever goes out with an older man like that," and she had to run the gauntlet of disapproval in their social set.

    - https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/feb/20/interview-elizabeth-murdoch

     

    Rupert Greene, wool broker:

    "Elisabeth Joy Greene was born in Melbourne on February 8, 1909, the youngest of three daughters of a wool broker, Rupert Greene, a reckless Anglo-Irish charmer, whom they all loved but whose gambling regularly forced the family to let their Toorak home... Some enterprising and influential friends organised Rupert's appointment as the official starter for the VRC and VATC, a position which forbade him from betting. This reduced but did not eradicate financial crises and surely influenced a sense of thrift in his daughters' lives.

    At 14, after several governesses, Elisabeth was sent to board at Clyde, at Mount Macedon, where she thrived, especially in sport. Her godfather, an old family friend, John Riddoch, paid the fees.

    Keith Murdoch, 42-year-old Herald editor and power broker, had sought out the 18-year-old Elisabeth, just out of school. He had seen her photo in a society gossip magazine. "

    -https://www.smh.com.au/national/benevolent-matriarch-of-a-dynasty-20121206-2ay5c.html

     

    Rupert Greene, merchant, wool expert:
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Forth-60

    Rupert Greene's father is the Irish train commissioner William Henry Greene and his mother is English, Fanny Covett, whose family is from Somerset.
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Greene-1753
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Govett-4
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Govett-5

    The Covett father and brothers had sheep farms in Australia. That's where the sheep ranch is from, if visits to sheep ranches there were.
    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/190315798/george-govett

    Perhaps the Guardian was duped. Perhaps William Henry Greene was a secret money-changer when not surveying the countryside of NSW or perhaps a smuggler! while transiting up and down the lost continent. Perhaps Greene's forefathers sailed across the channel with William the Conqueror, snuck ashore Ireland after falling off the Armada (his father had cousins in SPAIN), or stole across in the equipage of William of Orange and spent the next few hundred years deeply occulting their identity while reading the Talmud under the covers. Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.

    On balance, I think it is reasonable to arrive at the conclusion that Rupert Murdoch is Anglo-Irish. He is just personally awful.

    Replies: @tamberlint, @Ron Unz

    *Govett

  • @cousin lucky
    @Rol

    What if? - If Donald Trump is elected POTUS will the President of Ukraine be willing to tell Trump, and his team, where all of the Biden Family dirt is in Ukraine?

    Mr. Trump must want a lot of revenge for all of the humiliation and suffering he endured making that phone call while he was President.

    Replies: @Skeptikal, @NeverTrustaWizard

    “What if? – If Donald Trump is elected POTUS will the President of Ukraine be willing to tell Trump, and his team, where all of the Biden Family dirt is in Ukraine?”

    What a delicious prospect!

    Back to Square One, but on a different game board.

  • @eah
    @Skeptikal

    >It is incomprehensible.

    This isn't the topic here -- but I've explained the rationale for what's going on a number of times before, e.g. here: most of the rest of the world, including 'the West', acknowledges that Hamas committed an act of war against Israel, and Israel has a right to defend itself and secure its existence by attempting to eliminate a sworn, mortal enemy (it's in the charter of Hamas).

    None of what I've said about this should be taken as my personal opinion about the military campaign of the Jews against Hamas in Gaza: whether they've shown enough concern about civilian casualties and the destruction of civilian infrastructure, the reasonableness of their goal of eliminating Hamas, etc -- it just explains the rationale for the war, which with the Jews is accentuated by the 'Holocaust' extermination story ('never again'), as well as why most of the rest of the world, including 'the West', acquiesces in it.

    Now that it has been explained to you, can stop the plaintive, effeminate posting about how it's all so 'incomprehensible' to you.

    Replies: @Skeptikal, @Colin Wright, @mulga mumblebrain

    …acknowledges that Hamas committed an act of war against Israel…’

    …but dearest, they weren’t at peace to begin with.

    You overlook the minor detail that Israel has been committing ‘acts of war’ against the Palestinians for seventy five years. In 2023 alone, they had already killed two hundred by October 7th. They then began violating their own agreements concerning al Aqsa in a deliberate effort to bait Hamas into responding.

    So Hamas responded. Nu? Deir Yassin, Kfar Kassem, Sabra and Chantila are fine — but God forbid the victims retaliate? They should just obediently sit there and let the Jews kill them whenever they find it amusing?

    The hypocrisy is beyond disgusting — it’s absurd. It’s like condemning the Doolittle Raid as an outrageous atrocity.

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
  • @Patrick McNally
    @Laurence Fryd

    > No gentile magnat/financier could bring down the Russian Empire almost single-handedly, Schiff could.

    Ridiculous. The Czarist state collapsed on its own because it had no popular support from Russians. It was Father Gapon and Sergei Zubatov who set of the 1905 revolution. Schiff had nothing to do with this.

    Replies: @Laurence Fryd

    “Ridiculous. The Czarist state collapsed on its own because it had no popular support from Russians. It was Father Gapon and Sergei Zubatov who set of the 1905 revolution. Schiff had nothing to do with this.”

    – Wow, what a nonsensical superficial comment….sorry, but really makes me wonder how much you have actually studied the topic?

    Firstly of course -not sure if you know this?-, but the 1905 Gapon-revolution failed….
    and secondly exactly that “lack of popular support” you talk about which only made its limited initial uprising possible was achieved mainly thanks to 2 things:

    a) the weakening and impoverishment of the Russian Empire due to its humiliating defeat in the Russo-Japanese war

    b) large propaganda efforts by Anti-Tzarist/socialist fraction

    in both of which -as even such horrid mainstream sources like Wikipedia, the Jewish Encyclopedia and Schiff autobiographers like Ackerman tell us (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Schiff)- it was no other than Jacob Schiff who played a central role.

    It was his single handed giant loan of (todays value)5.3 billion Dollars, standing for half of the entire war`s cost, which made the war (and Russias defeat) possible for Japan -earning him the Emperor`s Gold and Silver Star Order of the Rising Sun Award-and his contributions to the Propaganda-distribution activities of the Society Of Friends Of Russian Freedom which helped the 1905 uprising considerably.

    But as said, this revolution failed, it was first the catastrophic entry and then loss of WW1 which brought the widespread public impoverishment and dissatisfaction needed for a this time succesfull revolt against and downfall of the Tzarist Empire.

    And again as even mainstream Wikipedia and Orthodoxy tell us, Schiff was a major player by:

    – sabotaging the Russian war, forbidding any loans to be given to Russia during its time of dire need for funding 1915-1917 and

    – floating large loans to the 1917 revolt and Kerensky regime.

    “Nothing to do with this”…….

    • Replies: @Patrick McNally
    @Laurence Fryd

    > the 1905 Gapon-revolution failed

    Duh! Because it has not been deliberately organized by anyone. It was a completely spontaneous outbreak which no in the existing revolutionary groups had any idea would happen. The uprising spread across the whole country and forced the monarchy to allow parliamentary elections for the first time. The existing Leftist groups, that means the Social Revolutionaries and Social Democrats primarily, were caught by surprise and abstained from the first elections. Instead, it was the newly formed Constitutional Democrats who carried that first vote. The monarchy tried to change things by having new election again in 1906, but this time the Leftist parties decided to participate, and they carried the election. But the momentum from early 1905 was already dying down and now the conflicts among the Leftists themselves became obvious and the ball was fumbled. Those circumstances allowed the Czarist monarchy to survive and even to rework the election laws which, after the Duma was dismissed, made it impossible for the Left to win the same way again. But the writing was on the wall in 1905. Any sane person could that discontent was spread across the whole country and ready to explode in the event of any new crisis. None of that was brought about Jacob Schiff, nor were any of the later events either.

    > the weakening and impoverishment of the Russian Empire due to its humiliating defeat in the Russo-Japanese war

    Which was brought on by the stupidity of the Czarist government. Sure, Schiff gave some war loans to Japan. France and Germany gave huge war credits to Russia. The decisive factor in this was not Jacob Schiff. That's your delusion. The war began on February 8, 1904. Your own Wiki source dates Schiff meeting with Takahashi Kore to April 1894, when the war had been going on for two months. But it's not as if Russia was somehow deprived of supporters. France gave Russia 30.4 million pounds and Germany another 24.5 million. Schiff's loans to Japan were of the order 41.2 million pounds. It's clear that the combined loans of Germany and France outclassed Schiff by about 13.2 million pounds. This was not the main source of the Czarist government's disaster. It was a mess which brought upon themselves when they were poorly prepared.

    > large propaganda efforts by Anti-Tzarist/socialist fraction

    Total nonsense. After the January uprising had broken out on its own, without any involvement by any foreign sources whatsoever, there was an attempt by Schiff to support the Constitutional Democrats.

    -----
    Western Jewish leaders favored a liberal rather than an extreme or revolutionary movement among Russian Jews. They more readily supported the League for the Attainment of Full Right for the Jewish People of Russia than they did the Bund. The League was founded in March 1905 without socialist participation. In matters of general Russian politics the League, like the Western leaders, favored the Cadets--the Russian Constitutional Democratic Party.
    -----
    -- Zosa Szajkowski, "Paul Nathan, Lucien Wolf, Jacob H. Schiff and the Jewish Revolutionary Movements in Eastern Europe 1903-1917," Jewish Social Studies, Volume 29, Number 1, p. 11.

    Schiff did not support socialism. He supported constitutional government. That was why he aided the Constitutional Democrats aka Cadets.

    Replies: @Tiptoethrutulips

  • @Anonymous44
    @Robert Lindsay

    You are lying about what it says in Tragedy and Hope about banking. It says 9 out of 19 of the major banking families are ethnically Jewish and that a Jewish family (ie Rothschilds) is by far the most powerful and wealthy, and power is what matters. And don’t tell me the BS that the Rothschilds are no longer powerful or super rich; the richest of people in the world disquse their wealth and assets, they are not the people on the “one hundred richest people in the world” lists in magazines. Also, the Jewish banking families are intermarried with one another and act as the leadership because they are united and have other powers due to owning most of the nontransferable shares in the Federal reserve, and they have the power to significantly influence, if not totally decide, who becomes its president…how many Jews have been the president of the federal reserve in a row now?

    Also, commercial banking is not where power is most concentrated, central and financial banking are where power is most concentrated—again, what ethnicity has controlled the leadership of the Fed for decades?—the Fed literally controls the reserve dollar of the entire world. And, who are the banking families that own the majority of nontransferable shares in the US Federal Reserve bank? Who are the main players on Wall Street? Who controls the money supply, who controls the assets? The Fed and Wall street (BlackRock, etc.) is what matters. BlackRock manages Fed assests and is the most powerful entity on Wall Street, both its CEO and its President are Jewish.

    Solidarity is also what matters, Jews work on behalf of their ethic interests tirelessly while pushing for universalism for everyone else. They insist on having an Ethnically Nationalist state while doing everything in their power to prevent Non-Jews from doing likewise.

    If you want people to feel better about Jewish folks, learn to be honest and call out bad Jews like non-Jews call out bad non-Jews rather than always doing Jewish apologetics. Everyone loves Israel Shahak, so it’s not that Non-Jews hate Jews, it’s that people hate being lied to and constantly gaslighted.

    Replies: @Anonymous44, @inspector general

    Brilliant reply. Thanks.

  • @Ron Unz
    @muh muh


    “Rupert’s father Sir Keith Murdoch [see below] attained his prominent position in Australian society through a fortuitous marriage to the daughter of a wealthy Jewish family, née Elisabeth Joy Greene.
     
    Exactly. I've seen that quote on quite a number of occasions.

    There's no dispute that Rupert Murdoch's mother was Elisabeth Joy Greene. And back in 1984, a right-wing British fringe publication had asserted that she came from a wealthy Jewish family, but provided absolutely no evidence to substantiate that claim.

    It's certainly possible, but there's no solid evidence. Rupert Murdoch has spent the last half-century as a very prominent and controversial public figure, and if his mother had actually come from a wealthy Jewish family, I'd think that someone would have found evidence of that in all those years. After all, both Britain and Australia of the 1920s had copious public records and media coverage, and it would certainly make a good story, and Murdoch has been the subject of numerous major biographies.

    Just because somebody once said something on the Internet doesn't necessarily mean it's true.

    Replies: @Robert Lindsay, @tamberlint

    I see the same Candour UK article quoted in an article attributed to 9/11 Chris Bollyn from 2011:

    “Rupert’s father Sir Keith Murdoch attained his prominent position in Australian society through a fortuitous marriage to the daughter of a wealthy Jewish family, née Elisabeth Joy Greene. Through his wife’s connections, Keith Murdoch was subsequently promoted from reporter to chairman of the British-owned newspaper where he worked. There was enough money to buy himself a knighthood of the British realm, two newspapers in Adelaide, South Australia, and a radio station in a faraway mining town,” Candour wrote in 1984. “For some reason, Murdoch has always tried to hide the fact that his pious mother brought him up as a Jew.”

    http://www.whale.to/a/murdoch1.html

    I hazard to guess that Rupert Murdoch’s maternal grandfather Rupert Greene inspired the rumors.

    Rupert Greene, variously listed as merchant, wool broker, wool expert, and gambler, appears to have been a lunatic. He does not appear to have been Jewish.

    The assertions in Candour UK are contradicted by Elisabeth Joy Murdoch née Greene’s obituaries from 2012, published in the Guardian and the Sydney Morning Herald. The Guardian article states that Murdoch’s mother was 19 when she married Murdoch’s father, who was already 42 and established. Rupert Greener was impecunious. The Sydney Morning Herald adds that Elisabeth’s school fees had to be paid by a family friend (surname Riddoch) and the Greene family house took boarders.

    Born in 1909, Elisabeth Greene was the youngest of three daughters. Her father, Rupert Greene, worked in the specialised wool trade for the New Zealand Loan and Mercantile Agency. Her father, she says, was a wicked gambler. “People loved Dad but he was a poor provider.”

    Money was sometimes scarce and there were family rows. She remembers on one occasion her father telling her: “I’m going to cut your mother up and put her in a little black box under the gardenia.”

    A romantic meeting with Keith Murdoch offered a way out. He saw a debutante photograph of the 18-year-old Elisabeth in a gossip column of one of his publications and announced that he wanted to meet her. He was considered to be Melbourne and Sydney’s most eligible bachelor, but to Elisabeth he was “a shy man who realised I was shy too”. Even so, when he telephoned to invite her out for a drive she accepted without her parents’ permission. They later said: “No nice girl ever goes out with an older man like that,” and she had to run the gauntlet of disapproval in their social set.

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/feb/20/interview-elizabeth-murdoch

    Rupert Greene, wool broker:

    “Elisabeth Joy Greene was born in Melbourne on February 8, 1909, the youngest of three daughters of a wool broker, Rupert Greene, a reckless Anglo-Irish charmer, whom they all loved but whose gambling regularly forced the family to let their Toorak home… Some enterprising and influential friends organised Rupert’s appointment as the official starter for the VRC and VATC, a position which forbade him from betting. This reduced but did not eradicate financial crises and surely influenced a sense of thrift in his daughters’ lives.

    At 14, after several governesses, Elisabeth was sent to board at Clyde, at Mount Macedon, where she thrived, especially in sport. Her godfather, an old family friend, John Riddoch, paid the fees.

    Keith Murdoch, 42-year-old Herald editor and power broker, had sought out the 18-year-old Elisabeth, just out of school. He had seen her photo in a society gossip magazine. ”

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/benevolent-matriarch-of-a-dynasty-20121206-2ay5c.html

    Rupert Greene, merchant, wool expert:
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Forth-60

    Rupert Greene’s father is the Irish train commissioner William Henry Greene and his mother is English, Fanny Covett, whose family is from Somerset.
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Greene-1753
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Govett-4
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Govett-5

    The Covett father and brothers had sheep farms in Australia. That’s where the sheep ranch is from, if visits to sheep ranches there were.
    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/190315798/george-govett

    Perhaps the Guardian was duped. Perhaps William Henry Greene was a secret money-changer when not surveying the countryside of NSW or perhaps a smuggler! while transiting up and down the lost continent. Perhaps Greene’s forefathers sailed across the channel with William the Conqueror, snuck ashore Ireland after falling off the Armada (his father had cousins in SPAIN), or stole across in the equipage of William of Orange and spent the next few hundred years deeply occulting their identity while reading the Talmud under the covers. Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.

    On balance, I think it is reasonable to arrive at the conclusion that Rupert Murdoch is Anglo-Irish. He is just personally awful.

    • Replies: @tamberlint
    @tamberlint

    *Govett

    , @Ron Unz
    @tamberlint


    I hazard to guess that Rupert Murdoch’s maternal grandfather Rupert Greene inspired the rumors.

    Rupert Greene, variously listed as merchant, wool broker, wool expert, and gambler, appears to have been a lunatic. He does not appear to have been Jewish.
     
    Thanks for your very diligent research on that point. I've seen the claim about Rupert Murdoch's mother hundreds of times over the years and although I was very skeptical, I never bothered looking into it. But it's nice to now have some solid references that I can provide people.

    Since conspiracy-activists correctly believe that the MSM is often dishonest, they mistakenly jump to the conclusion that claims in alt-media should be accepted without proof, and as a result they often make themselves look ridiculous.

    As I've said on a number of occasions, something like 90-95% of all the conspiracy-theories I've investigated have turned out to be false or at least unsubstantiated and this widespread nonsense about Murdoch clearly falls into that category.
  • @AbsurdinessBrown
    Evil has a race.

    Replies: @Holy Catholic

    Good and bad people everywhere but yes the Talmudic Jews are wicked evil insidious.
    Majority of Jews have no clue what’s in their holy books so in a way they are innocent.

    • Replies: @Utopian Dreams
    @Holy Catholic

    You should know better. You think Wicked Jewish Action is the product of the Talmud? In reality, both the Talmud and Jewish Action are products of Jewish Nature, which is universal to All Jews.

  • @Carlfried
    Le Pen expelled the entire AfD fraction from her EUSSR fake "parliament" association, ostensibly because Krah idiotically answered an MSM journo question instead of wisely remaining silent.

    Yet her own people are far more inept. Condemning Ms. Daoudi for jokingly wearing a Luftwaffe cap (instead for her Moroccan married name) shows the course of this joke party under its scheming "leader".

    Now Le Pen openly and shamelessly colludes with the globalist traitor Meloni, who in turn colludes with both Zelenskyy and von der Leyen.

    Her much more honorable niece Marion, btw, was just kicked out by Jew Zemmour because she called on voters to strategically vote for her aunt's party.

    https://www.france24.com/en/france/20240704-black-sheep-embarrass-the-national-rally-ahead-of-decisive-parliamentary-vote

    The hollow head of the criminal Pangburn, who is too stupid to wear a cap (or simply let his hair grow) in “enemy territory”, is indeed a single insult to the SS. He should have a “Star of David” tattooed on his forehead instead.

    An unmistakable Jew named Mueller (pic) had “detected” it, and ADL Jew Levine then presumes, as usual, to determine what is “acceptable” on behalf of Americans. https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news/fan-with-nazi-symbol-tattoo-removed-from-real-salt-lake-game

    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1156954325681233920/R0NfhqpF_400x400.jpg

    Replies: @Holy Catholic

    The Talmudic Jews playin divide and conquer and loving it …..

  • @ThreeCranes
    @Skeptikal

    Yes. The heart of the issue.

    For refutation of the Jew's claims to having brought moral instruction unto mankind, read the works of Frans de Waal among others. Primatologists at the Max Planck devised experiments which showed that chimps were capable of reasoning morally. If one chimp were given a reward of lesser value for behavior for which a neighbor chimp received something of greater value, both chimps responded in a way that showed that they understood that some elemental notion of Justice had been violated.

    And so on.

    Our moral nature is rooted deeply in our primates-living-in-social-groups evolutionary adaptive strategy.

    Jewish claims to superiority due to having midwifed some universal concerns is, on the contrary, their typical shifty, scheming way to cheat, gain a leg up on and put their opponents on their back foot. And, since, in the eyes of Jews everyone is an opponent, this makes them the enemy of mankind, not its benefactor.

    Replies: @Skeptikal

    Re “For refutation of the Jew’s claims to having brought moral instruction unto mankind, read the works of Frans de Waal among others. Primatologists at the Max Planck devised experiments which showed that chimps were capable of reasoning morally. If one chimp were given a reward of lesser value for behavior for which a neighbor chimp received something of greater value, both chimps responded in a way that showed that they understood that some elemental notion of Justice had been violated.

    And so on.

    Our moral nature is rooted deeply in our primates-living-in-social-groups evolutionary adaptive strategy.”

    I love Franz de Waal but have read just one of his books, Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are? Wonderful. I agree completely with his observations, and the idea, that elemental notions of justice are deep-wired in primates and possibly also “lower” animals.

    I just saw that de Waal died a couple of months ago.
    No! Very sad to learn of this loss to humanity.
    I shall definitely put some of his other books on my “to read” list.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
    @Skeptikal

    As far as we know, Judaism's injunctions to commit genocide are the oldest extant such tracts. Some 'moral instruction', and, as ever, the Gods Upon the Earth act as if China, India, Mesopotamia etc do not exist.

  • It doesn’t take 2300 words to explain what we already know…
    JEWS DO CONTROL THE U. S. MEDIA.

    • Agree: John Trout
  • @eah
    @Skeptikal

    >It is incomprehensible.

    This isn't the topic here -- but I've explained the rationale for what's going on a number of times before, e.g. here: most of the rest of the world, including 'the West', acknowledges that Hamas committed an act of war against Israel, and Israel has a right to defend itself and secure its existence by attempting to eliminate a sworn, mortal enemy (it's in the charter of Hamas).

    None of what I've said about this should be taken as my personal opinion about the military campaign of the Jews against Hamas in Gaza: whether they've shown enough concern about civilian casualties and the destruction of civilian infrastructure, the reasonableness of their goal of eliminating Hamas, etc -- it just explains the rationale for the war, which with the Jews is accentuated by the 'Holocaust' extermination story ('never again'), as well as why most of the rest of the world, including 'the West', acquiesces in it.

    Now that it has been explained to you, can stop the plaintive, effeminate posting about how it's all so 'incomprehensible' to you.

    Replies: @Skeptikal, @Colin Wright, @mulga mumblebrain

    Re ” but I’ve explained the rationale for what’s going on a number of times before, e.g. here: most of the rest of the world, including ‘the West’, acknowledges that Hamas committed an act of war against Israel, and Israel has a right to defend itself and secure its existence by attempting to eliminate a sworn, mortal enemy (it’s in the charter of Hamas).”

    Too bad you are so mentally inept as to think that “most of the West” believing something makes it a fact.

    It has been explained to you repeatedly here and I am sure elsewhere that under international law as framed in the UN charter Israel, an occupying power, has no right to self-defense to prolong its illegal occupation, whereas Hamas as the legal representative of the occupied entity has, in international law, a right to struggle for self-determination, including armed struggle.

    There, there, I know it’s hard.

    Now that this has been explained to you, you can stop the pompous, gaslighting multiple chauvinims you have put on display with your “genderizing” of an acknowledged genocidal shit show.

    • Agree: Adam Birchdale
    • Replies: @John Trout
    @Skeptikal

    While having no right to claim self-defense in response of an act of resistance by the occupied, the occupiers have a responsibility for the health and well-being of the occupied.

  • @Tiptoethrutulips
    @Jim H


    Ultimately Lindsay’s essay is incoherent. Did he have a point? It eluded me.
     
    Yes, he did -

    Later I ended up having the longest relationship of my life with a Jewish woman

    He likes to 1. yank chains, and 2. wax sentimental about the yankings he used to receive when he was a young stud.

    Replies: @Angharad

    Wow. Thanks for the info. WHAT a pathetic cuck.

  • “Climate Change Lie Explained” & “Nurse: Jews Prioritized
    For Organ Transplants” https://linkmix.co/24353471

  • Evil has a race.

    • Agree: John Trout
    • Replies: @Holy Catholic
    @AbsurdinessBrown

    Good and bad people everywhere but yes the Talmudic Jews are wicked evil insidious.
    Majority of Jews have no clue what’s in their holy books so in a way they are innocent.

    Replies: @Utopian Dreams

  • Le Pen expelled the entire AfD fraction from her EUSSR fake “parliament” association, ostensibly because Krah idiotically answered an MSM journo question instead of wisely remaining silent.

    Yet her own people are far more inept. Condemning Ms. Daoudi for jokingly wearing a Luftwaffe cap (instead for her Moroccan married name) shows the course of this joke party under its scheming “leader”.

    Now Le Pen openly and shamelessly colludes with the globalist traitor Meloni, who in turn colludes with both Zelenskyy and von der Leyen.

    Her much more honorable niece Marion, btw, was just kicked out by Jew Zemmour because she called on voters to strategically vote for her aunt’s party.

    https://www.france24.com/en/france/20240704-black-sheep-embarrass-the-national-rally-ahead-of-decisive-parliamentary-vote

    The hollow head of the criminal Pangburn, who is too stupid to wear a cap (or simply let his hair grow) in “enemy territory”, is indeed a single insult to the SS. He should have a “Star of David” tattooed on his forehead instead.

    An unmistakable Jew named Mueller (pic) had “detected” it, and ADL Jew Levine then presumes, as usual, to determine what is “acceptable” on behalf of Americans. https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news/fan-with-nazi-symbol-tattoo-removed-from-real-salt-lake-game

    • Replies: @Holy Catholic
    @Carlfried

    The Talmudic Jews playin divide and conquer and loving it …..

  • @niteranger
    @Ron Unz

    I don't know about being incompetent but Jews have changed their names over the years and some have tried to mask their true identities. This could be for a number of reasons including discrimination, joining organizations, and perhaps more nefarious reasons. Italians also changed their names by dropping vowels especially to get jobs.

    There is no need for conspiracy theorists when the data are overwhelming and readily available. Here is the original number of Jewish appointees of the Biden Administration in 2021:
    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jews-in-the-biden-administration. Many of the Jews in his administration have dual citizenship. This is suspicious to many people.

    I come from an area of the country where my Jewish friends referred to Kristol and his group as Bolsheviks and Trotskyites. My late Jewish lawyer said the same thing. Not all Jews are happy with the games that these people play by but when a certain group just keeps showing up again and again statistically people become more and more wary of the conditions around them. There is a simple reason for this and that is there is no longer any debate on anything. One must believe everything Jewish organizations like AIPAC and ADL say or you are antisemitic. If you point out that most pharmaceutical companies appear to be run by Jews you are also antisemitic. If you don't agree with Holocaust lamp shades made of Jewish skin or 6 million perished then you are cancelled. The Jewish groups have pushed DEI, and illegal immigration in every country yet they don't seem to allow it in their land.

    I don't see any conspiracies. They aren't trying to hide that they control it. You just aren't allowed to talk about it. Here's link from Howard Stern's show in the 90's using black face and the n word:

    https://rumble.com/vuq6wm-1990s-fohoward-stern-in-black-face-fluently-using-the-n-word.html

    Let me know if you think a white comedian, athlete, or podcaster could get away with this or would still have his job? I think this tells us incompetent folks all we need to know about who is in charge.

    Replies: @Holy Catholic

    It’s all about culture. We are in the middle of a cultural war. The Talmudic Jews are attacking western civilization. Can’t you see it ? The holocaust is their wall of defense. The Talmud is their calendar , the agenda , the planning.

  • @Skeptikal
    @JWalters

    [It's bad behavior to quote an entire external article rather than just providing a link. Such comments may get trashed.]

    Excellent post!

    Re "But we’re not safe yet. We need to dismantle the Jewish mafia before they drag us all into a nuclear World War 3. "

    We also need to dismantle the Jewish conviction of moral superiority. It is incredible that they can maintain this in the face of the evil on display in Israel.

    American Jews seem to be trying to retrench to a position of "Zionism is wrong, because it and the Gaza genocide violate the mighty moral Jewish tradition. I think that tribal ego trip also needs to be shut down.

    This article below is currently going the rounds of groups and individual Jews who protest the Gaza genocide:

    Israel in Gaza: The Jewish Break with Zionism


    by Richard Rubenstein

    CounterPunch / 2024-07-02 02:02

    Rubenstein writes,
    "Something has happened in connection with Israel's savage war in Gaza that no one expected and that few even now want to discuss. . . .

    "The Israelis have also suffered greatly, beginning with their loss of 1200 soldiers and civilians to Hamas attackers on October 7, 2023. One effect of this brutal assault was to reopen the wounds of the Holocaust, re-traumatizing a people already conscious of their historic vulnerability. . . .

    " Since a state is a community empowered to enforce its norms violently, this systemic preference for Jewish identity and interests creates a warrant for"structural violence" (for example, the discriminatory regulations that Palestinians call "apartheid") against non-Jews.
    [[Uh, no, the UN calls this apartheid. That is because it is apartheid.]]

    [[[Here comes the mental ju=jitsu]]
    "For a long time, most American Jews have understood that there is tension between Zionism and the moral values that Judaism helped the world discover. This tension is not peculiar to Zionism; it exists whenever nationalistic beliefs and practices appear to conflict with more general human interests and needs. The tension seems particularly acute where nationalism mixes with ethnic or religious identity, since Judaism and other world religions claim to embody and promote universally applicable values, not just the customs of a particular tribe. One such value is the sanctity of human life. Human life is sacred and inviolable, say the holy ones – except when we Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, or Buddhist nationalists decide that to protect our own group it is expendable."

    I couldn't read any further.
    But notice how Rube asserts as an axiom that Jews helped the world discover moral values of some kind. Which moral values? Where. This is the line of defense that diaspora Jews are retrenching to: that Judaism has historically been "the Gentiles' conscience" and the font of universal values of the equality of man etc.

    I am unaware of any evidence for this assertion of moral supremacy---IMO it is just another form of "chosenness" that is not true.

    Notice, too, how Rube exculpates the Jews by equating what they are doing in Gaza with what other countries have done under some set of circumstances defined by Rubenstein, a Jew.

    The German Holocaust was sui generis; cannot be relativized.

    But now here's the 180: Gaza is not sui generis. Suddenly all countries and ethnicities are equal after all . . . This is the typical jumping back and forth between Jewish identities. Suddenly, Yahweh just doesn't count, or doesn't even exist. Judaism is suddenly a "world religion."

    I would really like to see someone knowledgeable---and not a Jew! they are not the only ones who can analyze the Jew---come along and puncture a huge hole in this notion that the Jews "discovered" universal moral values for everyone. A historian, moral philosopher, historian of ethics---someone like that.

    When did the Jews "discover" universal moral values? Give me some dates, some documents that list the moral values the Jews "discovered."

    They only get "universal" when their backs are to the wall.
    Otherwise it is "But is it good for the Jews?"

    Sorry this comment is too long, but the self-serving "Jews discovered morals" argument is an obvious propaganda point to separate the Gaza genocide from its roots in beliefs inherent in Judaism itself and derail discussion to arcane themes , away from the Jewish bloodbath (to make Jews "safe"!!) that was predicted by Jews and non-Jews alike back in the early 20th C .

    Replies: @Skeptikal, @JWalters, @ThreeCranes

    Yes. The heart of the issue.

    For refutation of the Jew’s claims to having brought moral instruction unto mankind, read the works of Frans de Waal among others. Primatologists at the Max Planck devised experiments which showed that chimps were capable of reasoning morally. If one chimp were given a reward of lesser value for behavior for which a neighbor chimp received something of greater value, both chimps responded in a way that showed that they understood that some elemental notion of Justice had been violated.

    And so on.

    Our moral nature is rooted deeply in our primates-living-in-social-groups evolutionary adaptive strategy.

    Jewish claims to superiority due to having midwifed some universal concerns is, on the contrary, their typical shifty, scheming way to cheat, gain a leg up on and put their opponents on their back foot. And, since, in the eyes of Jews everyone is an opponent, this makes them the enemy of mankind, not its benefactor.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    @ThreeCranes

    Re "For refutation of the Jew’s claims to having brought moral instruction unto mankind, read the works of Frans de Waal among others. Primatologists at the Max Planck devised experiments which showed that chimps were capable of reasoning morally. If one chimp were given a reward of lesser value for behavior for which a neighbor chimp received something of greater value, both chimps responded in a way that showed that they understood that some elemental notion of Justice had been violated.

    And so on.

    Our moral nature is rooted deeply in our primates-living-in-social-groups evolutionary adaptive strategy."

    I love Franz de Waal but have read just one of his books, Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are? Wonderful. I agree completely with his observations, and the idea, that elemental notions of justice are deep-wired in primates and possibly also "lower" animals.

    I just saw that de Waal died a couple of months ago.
    No! Very sad to learn of this loss to humanity.
    I shall definitely put some of his other books on my "to read" list.

    Replies: @mulga mumblebrain

  • eah says:
    @Skeptikal
    @Colin Wright

    The eradication of the Palestinians in Palestine is viewed as an "acceptable" and even "probable" outcome of the current genocidal campaign.

    For instance, by Adam Shatz, writing in the London Review of Books.

    I am not aware of anyone in "the West" calling for a military intervention to liberate Konzentrationslager Gaza, even though we can view the "killing grounds" every day on our "devices." .

    It is incomprehensible.

    Replies: @eah

    >It is incomprehensible.

    This isn’t the topic here — but I’ve explained the rationale for what’s going on a number of times before, e.g. here: most of the rest of the world, including ‘the West’, acknowledges that Hamas committed an act of war against Israel, and Israel has a right to defend itself and secure its existence by attempting to eliminate a sworn, mortal enemy (it’s in the charter of Hamas).

    None of what I’ve said about this should be taken as my personal opinion about the military campaign of the Jews against Hamas in Gaza: whether they’ve shown enough concern about civilian casualties and the destruction of civilian infrastructure, the reasonableness of their goal of eliminating Hamas, etc — it just explains the rationale for the war, which with the Jews is accentuated by the ‘Holocaust’ extermination story (‘never again’), as well as why most of the rest of the world, including ‘the West’, acquiesces in it.

    Now that it has been explained to you, can stop the plaintive, effeminate posting about how it’s all so ‘incomprehensible’ to you.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    @eah

    Re " but I’ve explained the rationale for what’s going on a number of times before, e.g. here: most of the rest of the world, including ‘the West’, acknowledges that Hamas committed an act of war against Israel, and Israel has a right to defend itself and secure its existence by attempting to eliminate a sworn, mortal enemy (it’s in the charter of Hamas)."

    Too bad you are so mentally inept as to think that "most of the West" believing something makes it a fact.

    It has been explained to you repeatedly here and I am sure elsewhere that under international law as framed in the UN charter Israel, an occupying power, has no right to self-defense to prolong its illegal occupation, whereas Hamas as the legal representative of the occupied entity has, in international law, a right to struggle for self-determination, including armed struggle.

    There, there, I know it's hard.

    Now that this has been explained to you, you can stop the pompous, gaslighting multiple chauvinims you have put on display with your "genderizing" of an acknowledged genocidal shit show.

    Replies: @John Trout

    , @Colin Wright
    @eah


    ...acknowledges that Hamas committed an act of war against Israel...'
     
    ...but dearest, they weren't at peace to begin with.

    You overlook the minor detail that Israel has been committing 'acts of war' against the Palestinians for seventy five years. In 2023 alone, they had already killed two hundred by October 7th. They then began violating their own agreements concerning al Aqsa in a deliberate effort to bait Hamas into responding.

    So Hamas responded. Nu? Deir Yassin, Kfar Kassem, Sabra and Chantila are fine -- but God forbid the victims retaliate? They should just obediently sit there and let the Jews kill them whenever they find it amusing?

    The hypocrisy is beyond disgusting -- it's absurd. It's like condemning the Doolittle Raid as an outrageous atrocity.

    , @mulga mumblebrain
    @eah

    Lying swine. Hamas committed an act of RESISTANCE, protected under International Law. Hamas killed mostly military, and it was Zionazi 'friendly fire' and Hannibal Procedure deliberate murder that killed most of the civilians.
    'Defence' does NOT confer a right to genocide and mass child murder, no matter how central these are to your Judaic religious practise. So shut your sniveling, genocide approving, mouth, you accomplice to genocide. And the vast majority of humanity, including much of Western publics, you lying pos, does NOT acquiesce in this genocide, although you, you vicious thug, plainly do.

    Replies: @Commentator Mike

  • @Laurence Fryd
    @Robert Lindsay

    I think your article is worthwhile as a good starting point for an investigation, but if I may it seems like you wrote it as the end to one?

    Not to be too critical, but -as others have pointed out before- I wonder:

    1. Why did you not link to any exact (as academic as possible) sources?

    2. How far would you say have you delved into/through the topic, how many academic works (except the mentioned by -somewhat academic- Ford and McDonald) studied?

    This question is NOT meant to (cheaply) discredit, simply to understand what your assumptions/conclusions are based on (?) for when going through your article quite a few things baffled me:

    A) You repeat many times the ratio of "1 Jew-1 Gentile" being proof for "Not jewish controlled", yet how this can be claimed given that this of course per pure math in a society where Jews are 2% and Gentiles 98% means the former are 2500% over- and the latter 48% under-represented I have a hard time understanding?

    B) How do you understand/have experienced that a Minority -Power/Influence (in this case particularly the jewish) PRACTICALLY actually works in the real(-politik) world?

    Especially your repetition and apparently main focus on the numerical QUANTITY of jewish persons in this or that institution is somewhat dumb-founding to me given that this exactly seems to miss the entire point of how MINORITY INFLUENCE actually works, which of course is all about the opposit, namely purely QUALITY (to aim for majority as a minority being ridiculous to start with of course).

    "NODE-positioning" as Ron if I remember correctly put it in his articles on Jewish Power. Or
    "CHOKE-POINT-positioning" as Cynthia McKinney put it recently in her interview with Kevin Barret.

    To be fair it appears you took some of this into account since you focus on the upper decision-taking levels of the news-cooperations in question, but unfortunately then you seem to stop and not take into account-

    firstly that (beside the mentioned that very strange negligence of the vastly disproportionate over-ratio of 2500% in ethnic representation) here again the quality-question comes in as to who of these 2 upper executives greater-influence-wise has the stronger position (visible easily in whose interests are numerically mostly reflected in the outcome of decisions) and

    secondly - and this being, in my experience the main second point and pillar of Minority (here jewish)-Influence which you seem to strangely completely neglect:

    The unequalled necessity/ help of and constant mutual contribution to and fall back/safety net of a global ethnically focused Establishment of:

    (INTER-DISCIPLINARY/PROFESSIONAL/SOCIAL) NETWORKING

    This being especially large a blunder since this in my experience is actually the main difference between global jewish and gentile influence/lobbying power overall.

    For while in any cooperation (/institution/government), say in any upper executive/leading position, a gentile (say Musk, Besoz, Rockefeller, Morgan...) may have enormeous decisional-power within the limited commercial/financial/political sector they are established in, NONE of them have a global constant alert/supportive network to fall back/draw back on like a jew (potentially) and especially not one that not only spans all those afore mentioned sectors but also in addition the religious/social/historiographical/judiciary/internationally politically and -here most notably- of course media-sectors.
    This is why all the above listed powerful individuals can/have/will (?) never achieve an influence/power even remotely to the extent that a Netanyahu, Jacob Schiff, Bernard Baruch can/have/will (?).
    NO Gentile leader and his country ever in history could stand against 40 UN-resolutions without suffering harm, Netanyahu/Israel can.
    No gentile magnat/financier could bring down the Russian Empire almost single-handedly, Schiff could.
    No gentile stock-broker in history (who was not even a politician) ever could influence 3 US government-administrations (Wilson/Roosevelt/Truman) to achieve his own ethno-centric goals (enormeous wealth through weapons-trade, US entry into WW1 and WW2, foundation/support of Israel), Baruch could.

    To note that within all these sectors -and here full circle back to the main point of my critique- it appears usually in fact not necessary to have the numerical majority control positions, but a critical mass is apparently more than enough thanks to the mentioned brilliant "CHOKE/NODE-power-positioning" and above described unrivaled ability to network and rally around any cause at any instant if necessary and then call upon all those sectors and their critical masses to synchronize to the common goal. Infact the best position of (NODE-) power is not a jewish front person at all, but a gentile who -for whatever reason - can be called/relied upon to be loyal to jewish interests, which of course is the entire (brilliant) idea of AIPAC f.ex.
    And the one easy proof is always in the pudding/practical result, who gets his/her way in the end...?

    A glimpse of the extent of that enormeous (hair-trigger alert) net(work) being best visible when triggered by a perceived "danger to the jewish community", perfectly of course right now after 7th october. Within days and since then all critical masses/positions in the religious, international-political, military, industrial, economical, judicial and media sectors in hair-trigger full alert and battle-stations and despite all (growing) global opposition, a tiny country of 7 Million Jews can (sofar) stand unharmed against the entirety of moral, judicial, economic, political and media-power of the world...which of course is not true, it is not Israel that has this unbelievable power, but what Israel/the global jewish lobbying network-community can rely/fall back upon, as described above.

    As last points of critique if I may I wonder, you write:

    "Ron’s claims are in italics: Google/Alphabet (Jewish owned)
    I didn’t consider them media. Maybe social media?
    Facebook/Meta (Jewish owned)I considered them social media"

    Not only is your article`s title infact "do jews control the us media" not "news-media", but actually of course those media platforms mentioned by Ron dwarf any of your mentioned strictly "News-media platforms" in popular use/exposure by a factor of 200 !:

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1201889/most-visited-websites-worldwide-unique-visits/
    https://explodingtopics.com/blog/most-visited-websites

    As an example, Google has ca 9 billion unique visitors monthly, Youtube (both owned by Alphabet Inc.) 5, and Facebook 3, these are the worlds most visited websites.
    None of your news media is even listed in the top 20 of that list (I think the most populous is CNN on place 34 or so).

    Which again is a perfect example of (and your seemingly disregard of ?) the difference between Quality-Quantity. You do not think that it maybe is more important to look at the platforms that have the highest reach and infact 200 times higher than any of yours?

    Sorry for the criticism, as said, I think your article is definitely a worthwhile read.

    Replies: @Patrick McNally

    > No gentile magnat/financier could bring down the Russian Empire almost single-handedly, Schiff could.

    Ridiculous. The Czarist state collapsed on its own because it had no popular support from Russians. It was Father Gapon and Sergei Zubatov who set of the 1905 revolution. Schiff had nothing to do with this.

    • Replies: @Laurence Fryd
    @Patrick McNally

    "Ridiculous. The Czarist state collapsed on its own because it had no popular support from Russians. It was Father Gapon and Sergei Zubatov who set of the 1905 revolution. Schiff had nothing to do with this."

    - Wow, what a nonsensical superficial comment....sorry, but really makes me wonder how much you have actually studied the topic?

    Firstly of course -not sure if you know this?-, but the 1905 Gapon-revolution failed....
    and secondly exactly that "lack of popular support" you talk about which only made its limited initial uprising possible was achieved mainly thanks to 2 things:

    a) the weakening and impoverishment of the Russian Empire due to its humiliating defeat in the Russo-Japanese war

    b) large propaganda efforts by Anti-Tzarist/socialist fraction

    in both of which -as even such horrid mainstream sources like Wikipedia, the Jewish Encyclopedia and Schiff autobiographers like Ackerman tell us (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Schiff)- it was no other than Jacob Schiff who played a central role.

    It was his single handed giant loan of (todays value)5.3 billion Dollars, standing for half of the entire war`s cost, which made the war (and Russias defeat) possible for Japan -earning him the Emperor`s Gold and Silver Star Order of the Rising Sun Award-and his contributions to the Propaganda-distribution activities of the Society Of Friends Of Russian Freedom which helped the 1905 uprising considerably.

    But as said, this revolution failed, it was first the catastrophic entry and then loss of WW1 which brought the widespread public impoverishment and dissatisfaction needed for a this time succesfull revolt against and downfall of the Tzarist Empire.

    And again as even mainstream Wikipedia and Orthodoxy tell us, Schiff was a major player by:

    - sabotaging the Russian war, forbidding any loans to be given to Russia during its time of dire need for funding 1915-1917 and

    - floating large loans to the 1917 revolt and Kerensky regime.

    "Nothing to do with this".......

    Replies: @Patrick McNally

  • @Priss Factor
    https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1808344267208704040

    Zero Israeli women have testified to being sexually assaulted on October 7

    The NY Times sent a stringer, Anat Schwartz, to every rape crisis center in Israel to find sexual assault survivors, and she turned up nothing (she was later fired after the Times' article alleging "systemic sexual assault" on Oct 7 was debunked from top to bottom)

    Israel refused to participate in an independent UN investigation on sexual assault on Oct 7, and refused to introduce the UN's Pramila Patten to any survivors. The UN investigation found no evidence to support Israel's allegations.

    Israel is now so desperate for rape propaganda it is torturing Palestinian prisoners into confessing to sexual assaults they clearly never committed https://thegrayzone.com/2024/06/27/palestinian-father-son-confession-debunked/

    Roger Waters told the truth - again - and Israel's genocidal hasbara brigades are melting down
     

    Replies: @Z-man, @Chris Moore, @Skeptikal, @mulga mumblebrain

    One aspect of Judaic narcissism is that they brainwash themselves, and one another, into believing their most outrageous lies. Some, of course, remain knowing liars, but many are too afraid to confront the group hysteria and paranoia. Those that do, like Chomsky, Aaron Mate, Max Blumenthal et al, are viciously attacked for it.
    Certain psychopathic types enjoy the ‘license to lie’ that Judaism, Zionazism and Jewintern control confers on them. There’s more than a touch of the Frankist ‘redemption through Evil’ in it all.

  • @Cisco
    As a Canadian familiar with the CBC, (the Canadian Bromiding Corporation), consider that it is supposed to be our National Public Broadcaster. Yet since Oct 7, the CBC has a clear pro-Israeli/pro-Jewish bias in what it reports about the "Israeli-Hamas War," what it leaves out and the hasbara language it uses. Though it's our National Broadcaster supported by our Taxes, the CBC has many Jews the closer you get to the top. However it doesn't have to be owned by Jews. Like our government it favors Jewish interests where required. It walks and talks in lockstep with the MSM in the US which behaves very similarly. The reporting on student sit-ins for divestment by their universities from Jewish/Israeli interests similarly demonizes the students and overlooks the hard core Zionist goons who literally wrap themselves in the flag while they assault and provoke and the cops do nothing except when they step in to harass the students. Sound familiar? All media doesn't have to Jews, in fact none need be Jews. If they dictate to the government, they can easily control and direct a
    "Crown Corporation" such as the CBC.

    Replies: @mulga mumblebrain

    Gaza is proof positive of the Jewintern’s poisonous control of Western ‘elites’. On one side you have those opposed to genocide, who are slandered, attacked and mendaciously vilified for it, and on the other you have the enthusiastic accomplices in mass child murder, who, apparently, represent ‘Western values’ as exemplified by plucky, little, Israel’s ‘self defense’. Hilarious and truly diabolical.

  • Ownership? Did you check the decision making roles? The ones with power to decide are 90+% jewish in all media and Hollywood is the same shit.

    • Replies: @Robert Lindsay
    @Astuteobservor II

    Yes I did. My list above is mostly of top executives. Where available, I also listed top editorship positions.

  • Made me laugh. The Gentiles are presented and not 100% Jewish but most support Jewish values
    and Israel. Like Biden or Trump or most Congress are not Jews but OWNED by them like AIPAC
    ADL and other America loving organizations. Israel and Zionists give orders by blackmail and
    mostly silver bribing. This is the case with the US and most Western slaves.
    Support for Gaza genoside shows exactly who is OWNED. Not just a coutry but EU Union with a
    slave Ursula or even bribed slaves in Muslim world which is very toublesome but eventually
    understood considering the silver involved.
    Like Benjamin Disraeli, the Jewish PM in England said almost 200 years ago:
    “The world is governed by persons far diffrent than is assumed. They’re unseen and stay
    behind the scenes”.
    Another reminder about how the Jew own the Gentiles is the wars, revolutions, coups, 9/11
    Covid, Climate change or Net Zero, LGBTQ, BLM, Antifa and many more “Jewish values”.
    As Maurice Samuel said:
    https://www.azquotes.com/quote/685174
    And Franz Liszt:
    https://www.azquotes.com/quote/1003924

    https://www.azquotes.com/quote/614686

    There are many books about the history to see and understand the Jewish question.
    Henry Makow has some perspective as well.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
    @Harlot

    Anthropogenic climate destabilisation is stark reality, is accelerating, and it takes a true imbecile or some sort of vicious, brainwashed, Rightwing psychopath to deny it as weather and climate disasters proliferate and worsen.

  • @Anonymous44
    @Robert Lindsay

    Sources? Not Wikipedia but real sources.

    Replies: @Robert Lindsay

    All sources are indeed Wikipedia. Where information was not given about whether an executive or owner was Jewish, I did a search. I suppose I could have missed a few…You can check my data by going to Wikipedia and looking up all the corporations I listed.

  • @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Robert Lindsay

    You have also completely overlooked...the Federal Reserve Board. A major power player in directly controlling the US currency as well as its economy at large. And...the last several Fed Reserve Board Chairmans have been....

    Irish, right?

    Or I'm sorry, they've been Welsh.

    Certainly it's Greek to a lot of us as to what's going on there, but to suggest that for a paltry 2%, read that again please....TWO PERCENT of the US total population is "only" to use one of your examples, "ONLY" controls 41% of Hollywood in 2024, is patently asinine. And that's only direct control. Factor in another 35-40% of indirect control and the percentage climbs to well over 80-85%. But no, Hollywood doesn't have any influence at all whatsoever in shaping public opinion, pop culture etc etc.

    Also, Social Media in the 21st Century is the new major power player of the Western World economy. They are a major power player. The owners of Social Media, at least half are Jewish, and are billionaires. But nope, that Social Media thing won't last, just a flash in the pan.

    And again, they are just TWO PERCENT of the US total population. So anything over say, 10-15% is a major, major overrepresentation. After all, US Indians are about 1% of the US population. How many major businesses, banks, entertainment, Social Media sectors do the Shashones, Cherokees, Hopis, and Iroquois own in the US? On the level of Facebook, Google, Blackrock, and Vanguard (things that actually can directly impact the US/World economy at large)?

    Pretty much zip.

    Curiouser and curiouser.

    Replies: @Robert Lindsay

    41% is for the top positions of media and Hollywood. The figure for Hollywood alone is doubtless higher.

    My original analysis did not include social media.

  • @DanFromCT
    The author’s amateur stab at Jewish power over America’s media is immediately refuted by E. Michael Jones’s Jewish Revolutionary Spirit. His books are scholarly and great reads. The same goes for Kevin MacDonald’s Culture of Critique, although there’s more than a whiff of Judeophilia in Dr. MacDonald’s fawning accusation that the Jews’ successes are due to their putatively superior intelligence.

    Interacting with Jews in business, however, suggests collusion, not greater intelligence, is the explanation the author is looking for, and their control over the determinants of public opinion is as obvious as turning on the TV or going to the movies.

    The author also fails to mention the US Congress, which even AIPAC gloats is as much a Jewish fiefdom as the Knesset in Israel. One prominent Jew is on record as claiming, in words to the effect, that ‘We Jews control the re-election of all but maybe five of the 535 members of Congress’. And as Dr. Jones likes to joke, the “Biden Administration” is a fig leaf for 457 Jews.

    Their influence is everywhere. The former head of the Hebrew Immigration Aid Society, an anti-white, genocidal front posing as a charity, was confirmed by Congress to head the DHS, an act so treasonous that all who voted for his confirmation should be tried for capital treason.

    This appointment is exactly as if a Jew in his capacity as a Jew were apppointed by the “Biden Administration” (ie, 457 Jews) and confirmed by AIPAC’s footstools in Congress to oversee with tens of billions of our tax dollars the invasion of the United States. And, this invasion, which is what it is, is by mostly military-age, anti-American, sleeper criminal-combatants, effectively annihilating our sovereignty as a nation. Now that’s some control worth considering.

    Replies: @Redpill Boomer, @Sir Launcelot Canning, @Poupon Marx, @Sarah, @Brennan, @Event Horizon

    For an eye opening 1 hour insightful interview outlining exactly what DanFromCT just said, please visit https://is.gd/jjcarrell Mr. Carrell spent 20 years as a Border Patrol Agent. To hear how Mayorkas effectively put into motion an absolute stunning and catastrophic invasion of the US is terrifying.

  • @Ron Unz
    @muh muh


    “Rupert’s father Sir Keith Murdoch [see below] attained his prominent position in Australian society through a fortuitous marriage to the daughter of a wealthy Jewish family, née Elisabeth Joy Greene.
     
    Exactly. I've seen that quote on quite a number of occasions.

    There's no dispute that Rupert Murdoch's mother was Elisabeth Joy Greene. And back in 1984, a right-wing British fringe publication had asserted that she came from a wealthy Jewish family, but provided absolutely no evidence to substantiate that claim.

    It's certainly possible, but there's no solid evidence. Rupert Murdoch has spent the last half-century as a very prominent and controversial public figure, and if his mother had actually come from a wealthy Jewish family, I'd think that someone would have found evidence of that in all those years. After all, both Britain and Australia of the 1920s had copious public records and media coverage, and it would certainly make a good story, and Murdoch has been the subject of numerous major biographies.

    Just because somebody once said something on the Internet doesn't necessarily mean it's true.

    Replies: @Robert Lindsay, @tamberlint

    Greene is most common a British and Irish version of the word “green.” It can also be an Americanized form of Gruen, a German Jewish name meaning “green.” However since she was Australian, I would vouch more for the English and Irish version.

  • Yes the Jews own the media – if they didn’t the World wouldn’t be living a lie!

    Holocaust lie, Incineration of 1.2 Mio corpses in 3 crematoriums (Auschwitz) will take 78 years (ask AI or do the math yourself!

    Bolshevik murder, rape and torture of 40 Mio Christians and Caucasians (Russia 1917-52) not ONE Blockbuster Movie! (2500 movies about German Atrocities WW2?)

    Nobody knows Genrikh Yagoda – Jewish Mass Murderer accredited with the Gruesome slaughter of 10 Mio alone!

    German Media Executives (Editors, Editors chief) have to sign a declaration to NEVER write negatively about the Jews since 1948! – Otherwise they do not get the Job.

    The Jews own or control World media and it shows EVERYWHERE!!!

    That too will end this Year!!! Loving it.

  • One of the good things about the pervasive Zionist influence in America is that it helps expose one particular limitation of “progressive” activism. For those who may not know, there was recently a rally in New York for the Democratic Socialists of America, which is a “progressive” and nominally pro-Palestinian subsidy of the Democratic Party. Apparently the crowd at the event was negligible, and the “progressive” speakers—AOC, Bernie Sanders, and Jamaal Bowman—made sure that the few people in attendance knew that Israel has “a right to defend itself”. There was also much heckling by anti-Zionist protesters throughout, which was probably the highlight.

    Drawing boos from a few dozen of the fewer than 300 people who were allowed near the stage at St. Mary’s Park in the Bronx, Sanders declared that while “Bowman understands what is going on in Gaza is totally unacceptable, Israel has the right to defend itself against the terrorist attack.”

    The Vermont senator’s defense of Israel drew a much louder response, which came from several hundred counter-protesters located hundreds of feet away behind security barriers. The counter-protesters were predominately with the group “Within Our Lifetime” (WOL), an anti-Zionist, pro-Palestinian organization based in New York City.

    Throughout the rally, WOL protesters denounced the “progressives” for endorsing Biden, as well as the previous support by Sanders, Bowman and Ocasio-Cortez for Israeli military funding. WOL protesters chanted, “Sanders, you can’t hide; we charge you with genocide!” and “AOC, your hands are red!”

    Source: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/06/25/blsb-j25.html

  • @Ron Unz
    @niteranger


    It appears that it has been removed by various sites including parts of Wikipedia and other groups which tells me that someone has such power because Wikipedia has tons of questionable points about people and other things. I don’t know if I can find it but someone on the net had done a genealogy of Murdoch’s entire family as well as the Royal Family going back generations and there were many strange relationships. In fact, I can’t remember if it was on his father’s side or his mother’s but going back generations in the grandparents there were such Jewish ancestors.
     
    It's Murdoch's mother. Over the years, I've seen hundreds of claims on the Internet that she was Jewish, but never any solid evidence.

    You don't have any evidence that she was Jewish and it probably isn't true, but you just spouted off like a total idiot, as did several others commenters on this thread.

    One reason anti-Jewish conspiracy-activists have never had the slightest success in all the years they've been yammering on the Internet is that they're mostly incompetent.

    I suppose it's possible that some of them might be ADL infiltrators, trying to make their side look ridiculous, but it's much more likely that they're just incompetent.

    Replies: @Holy Catholic, @niteranger

    I don’t know about being incompetent but Jews have changed their names over the years and some have tried to mask their true identities. This could be for a number of reasons including discrimination, joining organizations, and perhaps more nefarious reasons. Italians also changed their names by dropping vowels especially to get jobs.

    There is no need for conspiracy theorists when the data are overwhelming and readily available. Here is the original number of Jewish appointees of the Biden Administration in 2021:
    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jews-in-the-biden-administration. Many of the Jews in his administration have dual citizenship. This is suspicious to many people.

    I come from an area of the country where my Jewish friends referred to Kristol and his group as Bolsheviks and Trotskyites. My late Jewish lawyer said the same thing. Not all Jews are happy with the games that these people play by but when a certain group just keeps showing up again and again statistically people become more and more wary of the conditions around them. There is a simple reason for this and that is there is no longer any debate on anything. One must believe everything Jewish organizations like AIPAC and ADL say or you are antisemitic. If you point out that most pharmaceutical companies appear to be run by Jews you are also antisemitic. If you don’t agree with Holocaust lamp shades made of Jewish skin or 6 million perished then you are cancelled. The Jewish groups have pushed DEI, and illegal immigration in every country yet they don’t seem to allow it in their land.

    I don’t see any conspiracies. They aren’t trying to hide that they control it. You just aren’t allowed to talk about it. Here’s link from Howard Stern’s show in the 90’s using black face and the n word:

    https://rumble.com/vuq6wm-1990s-fohoward-stern-in-black-face-fluently-using-the-n-word.html

    Let me know if you think a white comedian, athlete, or podcaster could get away with this or would still have his job? I think this tells us incompetent folks all we need to know about who is in charge.

    • Thanks: John Wear
    • Replies: @Holy Catholic
    @niteranger

    It’s all about culture. We are in the middle of a cultural war. The Talmudic Jews are attacking western civilization. Can’t you see it ? The holocaust is their wall of defense. The Talmud is their calendar , the agenda , the planning.

  • @Unbornawakened
    @Ron Unz


    (5) Fox (Non-Jewish)
     
    Fox News is the most rabid pro-Israel and jingoistic outlet around, and yet it is not owned by Jews (assuming Unz is right), which proves the point that the real power behind Jews is the White man, with the Anglos being the most devoted Judeophiles.

    As I joked before, to kill the Jew, you have to kill the donkey it rides on. That donkey is primarily the white man, and at its root base, what I like to call the "Angoloid". The rest of the world is mostly owned by the Angoloid empire based in the US, through proxy rulers, and they work alongside the white man to perpetuate the worship of the Jewish sacred cow through the cult of the Holocaust.

    It is the British who established Israel, using Jews as proxies to establish an Angoloid base in the heart of the Arab world.

    It is the British empire that used Jews as their agents in every single country of the world, and through its adjunct Freemason lodges, to infiltrate, spy, and keep under control British colonies and protectorates. The Jewish baton was handed over from the British to the US empire, both of which are Angoloid empires.

    The Jews are the perfect agents of Empire. They are the only ethno-religious group that is, or was, present as "natives" in perhaps most countries of the world. And as natives they often are not even known as Jews, they might be Jewish converts who still practice Judaism covertly and collaborate as a mafia to take control of the host country.

    The Jews are like diplomats representing the West, or to put it more crudely, they are the spies of the West, currently the Angoloid empire based in the USA. And that is why they are sacred cows; these spies must enjoy diplomatic immunity.

    We also see that all the rich people in the world, those who have big money, gravitate towards the Jews. It is no longer an Angoloid phenomenon alone, the Mongoloids are in it, and so are the rich oil Arabs and Muslims.

    The Mongoloid, really China nowadays, is also allied with this Jewish network, because the Chinese are today more Jewish than the Jews in their worship of money. But their societies are not deeply infiltrated like those of the West.

    The only host countries that are infested from within by Jewish parasites are the White European countries of Europe and the colonies they established in the Americas and Australia. From Eastern to Western Europe the Jew is present everywhere in Europe. The same is true in Latin America, colonized and settled by Europeans.

    In the Arab middle east, most Jews have been expelled. In east Asia, and even in India, the have a tiny native footprint. In most of Africa they are not present as natives.

    Therefore, the Jewish parasites primarily infests Europe and areas colonized by Europeans.

    As long as Europeans, currently represented by Angoloids, rule the world, so will the Jews.

    To kill the Jew, you have to kill the donkey it rides on. To kill the parasite you have to kill the host, or wait for it to die or become so weak it does not matter anymore.

    As long as the white man rules the world, so will the Jew.

    Without their collaborators, the Jews are nothing. Nothing.

    Replies: @kiwk, @Colin Wright

    Fox News is the most rabid pro-Israel and jingoistic outlet around, and yet it is not owned by Jews (assuming Unz is right), which proves…’

    But there you go. Larry Fink bought a big chunk of the corporation that owns Fox News and got Tucker Carlson fired.

    Of course there are ‘judeophiles.’ To get along, go along. But there are also Jews.

    • Agree: Adam Birchdale
  • @Robert Lindsay
    I'm going to ask for equal time here.

    I suppose I should defend myself here. I just went back and checked my work and it was just as I thought. I was only able to find two classic old-style Jewish media corporations where the ownership and the top editor positions were mostly or all Jewish. If you go back 30 years, quite a few media corporations had that classic Jewish control going on. Now it's all corporatized and diffused.

    Ron's claims are in italics:

    Google/Alphabet (Jewish owned)

    I didn’t consider them media. Maybe social media?

    Facebook/Meta (Jewish owned)

    I considered them social media.

    Comcast/NBC (Jewish owned)

    Actually 1 Jew, 1 Gentile.

    NBCUniversal itself, includes MSNBC: 1 Jew, 1 Gentile.

    Paramount/CBS (Jewish owned)

    Actually 1 Jew, 1 Gentile.

    However for CBS itself:

    CBS: 4 Gentiles, 1 Jewish.

    The news division itself: 2 Gentiles.

    Fox (Non-Jewish)

    New York Times (Jewish owned)

    Los Angeles Times: 1 Gentile.

    Chicago Tribune: 5 Gentiles.

    Washington Post: Owned by Gentile Bezos. Paper itself: 2 Gentiles (one is 1/4 Jewish)

    Boston Globe: 3 Gentiles.

    San Fransisco Chronicle: 1 Gentile.

    Wall Street Journal: 5 Gentiles.

    Time magazine: Jewish owned since 2018. Before that owned by Gentile Meredith. Editor in chief: Gentile.

    Newsweek: 2 Gentiles.

    US News and World Report: Jewish owned. Editors: 2 Jews, 1 Gentile (classic old style Jewish media corporation).

    Bloomberg LTD.: 3 Jews, 1 Gentile (classic old style Jewish media corporation)

    USA Today: 2 Gentiles.

    Meredith Corporation: 2 Gentiles.

    Gray Television: 1 Gentile.

    Disney (Jewish controlled)

    Actually 1 Jew, 1 Gentile. Mostly just Hollywood and movies.

    ABC: 1 Gentile

    Warner Brothers Discovery (Jewish controlled)

    Actually 1 Jew, 1 Gentile.

    CNN itself: 7 Gentiles, no Jews. One woman is married to a Jew.

    IAC (Jewish owned)

    Very Jewish, but not a news corporation.

    Associated Press: 1 Gentile.

    Hearst Corporation: 2 Gentiles

    Of the nine media corporations listed by Ron as Jewish-owned, two were social media or Internet companies, not news companies. Of the remaining seven, only two were Jewish-owned. The rest generally had a top leadership made up of a Jewish-Gentile mixture, often one Jew and one Gentile. Moving down to the actual news subsidiaries themselves, they were often very heavily if not exclusively Gentile.

    Of the major US newspapers, only the New York Times is a classic old style Jewish paper. I list six other major US newspapers where the leadership is all Gentile.

    The newsmagazines are a mixed bag. Newsweek is Gentile-owned. Time has just recently come under Jewish ownership, but the editor is a Gentile.

    US News and World Report and Bloomberg are the only two classic old-style Jewish media corporations I could find. These were much more common 30 years ago. The classic Jewish media corporation had Jewish ownership and mostly Jewish top editors. Clearly that's heading out.

    There was quite a bit of pushback in the MSM about the demonstrations on the campuses. In addition, there's been a fair amount of critical coverage of the Gaza War in the MSM. Even the New York Times has run some shockingly anti-Israel pieces. Phil Weiss over at Mondoweiss has noted this and says that things may be changing. He also said that the NY Times anti-Israel pieces were a watershed. He'd never seen such critical reporting coming from them.

    CNN and MSNBC are pro-Democratic Party and they mostly just wish this Gaza War would go away. Especially MSNBC seems to regard it as a toxic subject that might cost Democrats the election, so they simply don't talk about it much.

    The only real extreme pro-Israel network anymore is Fox. CBS, NBC, USA Today and AP are much less so and do run articles about how terrible the famine is in Gaza, etc. None of them could be described as over the top pro-Israel.

    Also if Ron allows me, I will add all of this data to the article.

    Replies: @Holy Catholic, @Bro43rd, @Anonymous44, @tamberlint, @Anonymous44, @Unbornawakened, @Laurence Fryd, @Partic, @muh muh, @nognverra, @eah, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    You have also completely overlooked…the Federal Reserve Board. A major power player in directly controlling the US currency as well as its economy at large. And…the last several Fed Reserve Board Chairmans have been….

    Irish, right?

    Or I’m sorry, they’ve been Welsh.

    Certainly it’s Greek to a lot of us as to what’s going on there, but to suggest that for a paltry 2%, read that again please….TWO PERCENT of the US total population is “only” to use one of your examples, “ONLY” controls 41% of Hollywood in 2024, is patently asinine. And that’s only direct control. Factor in another 35-40% of indirect control and the percentage climbs to well over 80-85%. But no, Hollywood doesn’t have any influence at all whatsoever in shaping public opinion, pop culture etc etc.

    Also, Social Media in the 21st Century is the new major power player of the Western World economy. They are a major power player. The owners of Social Media, at least half are Jewish, and are billionaires. But nope, that Social Media thing won’t last, just a flash in the pan.

    And again, they are just TWO PERCENT of the US total population. So anything over say, 10-15% is a major, major overrepresentation. After all, US Indians are about 1% of the US population. How many major businesses, banks, entertainment, Social Media sectors do the Shashones, Cherokees, Hopis, and Iroquois own in the US? On the level of Facebook, Google, Blackrock, and Vanguard (things that actually can directly impact the US/World economy at large)?

    Pretty much zip.

    Curiouser and curiouser.

    • Replies: @Robert Lindsay
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    41% is for the top positions of media and Hollywood. The figure for Hollywood alone is doubtless higher.

    My original analysis did not include social media.

  • @JasonT
    All media companies are controlled by the finance companies Black Rock, Vanguard, State Street and Clarity. Each of those four are controlled by each other. Vanguard is the private company whose controlling interest is a secret and which is the overarching control center. All four companies are directly operated by Boards of Directors who are merely the pawns of the several finance families of the world, who are largely 'Jews'.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    “All four companies are directly operated by Boards of Directors who are merely the pawns of the several finance families of the world, who are largely ‘Jews’.”

    In somewhat related news, it will be interesting to see how effective BRICS, whose main aim is to break free of Western currency by establishing its own multipolar currencies (that are not directly dependent upon Western nations currencies, chiefly the US). Because if the heads of what…BRICS are NOT Jewish, it would be the first time since the High Middle Ages when non-Jews/non-Jewish banking families did NOT directly or indirectly control the major currencies of the world’s financial/economic systems and currencies.

    As far as one can tell, aside from Russia, the nations China, India, Brazil, Iran, and other heads of the BRICS + nations do not have a sizable or significant Jewish population within their nations nor a sizable Jewish population in control of their economies whether directly or indirectly (e.g. even smaller Jewish populations than the US’s, which is around 2%).

    Perhaps this is one major reason why the West hates BRICS so much. Not so much for what it currently is, but for what it could signify if it is successful in the future—a significant part of the world that is NOT dependent upon Western currencies/economies (which again, have been controlled by Jews for over half a millennium in the West).

    Something to seriously consider.

  • A few brief comments on sentences in Robert Lindsay’s article.

    Whenever you hear antisemites talk about Jewish control of the banks, it’s not true. Jews did have major control over European banks before World War 2 …

    I hear that the Rothschild family has been reduced to peddling grapes at traffic lights at freeway exits in Bourgogne.

    … but a thing called the Holocaust happened, and that put a stop to that.

    Since it happened at Area 51, all documentation of the so-called Holocaust has been classified for a thousand years. So stop all your damn whining about missing paperwork.

    My analysis found that a typical huge media corporation nowadays might have at its top two executives one Jew and one Gentile. Having half the top positions is control? Forget it.

    Anti-Semites also overlook the fact that the USA’s population is 48.3 percent Jewish. So what’s the big deal with one Jew out of two chief execs? And all this talk about blackmail and bribery is coming from jealous guys who got lower test scores and spiteful women who have smaller boobs.

    Under half-Jew Katherine Graham [the Washington Post] had been very pro-Israel but after Catholic Jeff Bezos bought it out, nothing much changed.

    Jeff Bezos has frequently been photographed coming out of churches where fundraisers or concerts have just concluded. No one has seen a photo of him leaving a church after Mass in at least twenty years, however. There’s a term for that kind of “Catholic,” Mr. Lindsay—but it doesn’t include the word “Catholic.”

    … the Gentiles in the ruling class don’t act much different from the Jews. They tend to have the same values, one of which is strong support for Israel.

    And why shouldn’t they? Gentiles doubtless appreciate the value of an “ally” that obtains more classified information from the United States via espionage than do all other nations, allies and foes, combined. And if the Israelis didn’t drain the US economy and government of a few hundred billions of dollars annually, that money might be wasted on unemployed tenth-generation native-born white guys in the Rust Belt.

  • @Colin Wright
    @John Wear

    Oh God.

    Replies: @El_Kabong, @Tiptoethrutulips

    Oh Noodle!

    Someone in Germany tried to explain what the Jews were up to in Europe/America/Palestine – aka Eretz Israel.

    So, Noodle, some of us aren’t the least bit surprised by what’s happening over there or over here, and your incessant proclamations of astonished wonder – Just How Could This Be Happening?! – is rather amusing.

    The “Holocaust” is a kosher lemonade stand.

    How are things in Klamath Falls? Wet?

  • @Colin Wright
    @John Wear

    Oh God.

    Replies: @El_Kabong, @Tiptoethrutulips

    Did you even bother reading the info presented on the website he posted or did you merely dismiss it out of hand?

    • Agree: lavoisier