American democracy has devolved into a humiliation ritual in which we are expected to pledge support for people who hate us so they can steal our property, molest our children, and punish us for talking about their crimes. In election after election we are pressured to declare allegiance to one morally bankrupt criminal, simply because the other morally bankrupt criminal in the race might be even worse, thus becoming complicit in the election of a morally bankrupt criminal. Casting that vote on an electronic voting machine that even the government’s own intelligence director has admitted is totally hackable only strengthens the power of the ritual. Americans feel dumber every time we feed our choices into the ballot scanner and pray not to be disenfranchised, as if our selections made a difference in a contest that has been limited to the “lesser of two evils” for years. Standing up for ourselves and refusing to participate in such demeaning pageantry is denigrated as un-American, and our sentimental attachment to the democratic ideal masks the understanding that no change is actually possible within a system designed to deprive us of agency, so we legitimize a corrupt system with our participation instead. Like the teenage victims of Jeffrey Epstein, who returned to his mansions again and again even as they felt the humiliating experience draining their life force because they’d become convinced they could expect nothing better out of life, we have grown so accustomed to having our faces rubbed in outrageous and self-evident lies that we are starting to think we deserve the abuse.
Trump voters in particular have had a difficult year. Spooked back in July by a trickle of leaks suggesting he had been closer with Epstein than he claimed, the president raged at his supporters for demanding the release of the government’s remaining files on the case, despite repeated promises to release them during his 2024 reelection campaign. He sent FBI chief Kash Patel — who had also called for Epstein transparency before joining the Trump administration and acquiring his own Mossad handler (you gonna sue me, Kash?) — to inform the public that Epstein trafficked hundreds if not thousands of girls to absolutely nobody, despite copious documentation including an actual client list featuring at least 20 boldface names in FBI possession. The humiliation ritual was an encore performance for Patel, who had already appeared alongside his deputy Dan Bongino earlier in the year in an infamous clip where the pair, looking more uncomfortable than the stars of the average hostage video, reassured the public that Epstein had killed himself after all — case closed!
Having publicly disavowed the support of anyone still concerned how an intelligence operative working for Israel and the US was able to fly planeloads of teenage girls around the world for sex and lend them out to a who’s who of the global elite, maintaining a trove of compromising video footage of the aforementioned, without authorities lifting a finger in protest or (supposedly) finding the resulting videos, Trump spent several months trying to block the release of the files. He only took time out from railing against what was now declared a “Democrat hoax” to relocate Epstein’s partner-in-crime Ghislaine Maxwell, currently serving a 20-year sentence, to a minimum-security facility, in violation of prison sex-offender protocols. He even teased a pardon for the alleged Mossad asset, whose victims remember her as even more abusive than Epstein himself. Trump targeted Kentucky Republican Thomas Massie — perhaps the most respected man in American politics — with his next social media tantrum, condemning him as a “loser” for co-authoring a bipartisan bill to release the files, then turned his rage on Marjorie Taylor Greene, excoriating the Georgia Republican who was once among his most loyal supporters as a “traitor” because she hosted a press conference with a group of Epstein survivors in support of Massie’s transparency bill. The president even announced he’d host his first fundraiser of the 2026 season to reelect notoriously closeted warmonger Lindsey Graham, South Carolina’s Israel-First senator. By the time Trump finally dropped his opposition to the file release — which predictably showed he had been much cozier with the billionaire child trafficker than he’d admitted in the past — he had effectively alienated most of his base with seemingly unforced blunders that made no political sense.
Rosetta Stone
Unlike most political scandals, which only expose one aspect of the machinery behind the scenes, the Epstein case and its incompetent coverup provide all the intellectual tools needed to understand how the sausage is made. Like the apocryphal apple that fell on Sir Isaac Newton’s head and alerted him to the existence of gravity, the revelation that a multinational intelligence operation rooted in organized crime had for decades trafficked teen girls by the thousands as a means to secure global control not only of politics but of science, technology, industry, and the arts, with full knowledge and even cooperation of multiple law enforcement agencies, highlighted a force that most people had never considered was influencing current events. The phenomenon of Jeffrey Epstein — and the others like him who are still blithely ruining kids’ lives to secure leverage over power — finally makes sense of what for many on the dark side of the informational iron curtain had been a hopelessly scrambled puzzle.
This is why the Epstein files won’t go away, no matter how many distractions are dumped into the news cycle. The Epstein case and the ongoing efforts to bury its implications constitute a geopolitical decoder ring allowing anyone to understand how vibrant, thriving democratic societies are reduced to kakistocratic loosh farms with seeming impunity. Seen through the lens of Epstein — the real-world equivalent of the glasses from They Live — the narrative deceptions and limited-hangout misdirections become transparent, the proximity alarms surrounding “dangerous” thoughts are defused, and one can see right into the beady little eyes of the organized crime ring masquerading as a country masquerading as a religion, headquartered in modern-day Israel, that has its tentacles in every boardroom (and bedroom) in the West. While the source of its power was once a closely-guarded secret — journalist Danny Casolaro was famously murdered for investigating aspects of the network, which he called “The Octopus” — it has more recently leaned into the power of ritual humiliation in cementing its dominance, and can frequently be found flaunting its impunity. This is “Big Parasite” (think Big Pharma or Big Oil), an empire built through the covert extortion of resources from its host.
Because the first rule of Pedo Club is you don’t talk about Pedo Club, it’s difficult to determine when this tactic became widespread as a means of coercion. Whitney Webb credits the Prohibition-era Jewish mafia, who used it on the law enforcement agencies that were supposed to be pursuing them, earning years of peace while the mortified cops looked the other way. But it has certainly reached its nadir in modern Israel, where soldiers who gang-rape Palestinian prisoners are celebrated as heroes while rabbis campaigning for peace are arrested for bringing food to starving people. Built by terrorists, criminals, and Nazi-collaborators to provide a secure base of operations and diplomatic cover for their illegal enterprises, forced down the world’s throat through the judicious application of blackmail and bribery, Israel quickly became the ultimate money-laundering front and an extradition-proof haven for pedophiles. It has secured de facto exemption from nearly every international treaty, human rights convention, international arms agreement, and social norm that binds the civilized world, using a muscular and deep-pocketed propaganda apparatus to escape accountability by blaming its enemies and bribing or threatening allies to look the other way. Its victims are preemptively accused of the crimes committed against them so that when they do contact authorities, they appear suspect. Its trained assassins will kill another nation’s citizens anytime, anywhere to remove an obstacle to further consolidation of power, and whenever the central bank needs a top-up, the US and Europe will fight each other for the privilege of handing over their last pennies to the country that has everything (except a soul).
While a Venn Diagram depicting Big Parasite and “The Jews” would partially overlap, it would also show a serious imbalance in power driven by what “ex-Jew” Gilad Atzmon calls pre-traumatic stress syndrome — a pathological reaction to a feared (but nonexistent) trauma. Big Parasite, conflating Zionism with Judaism to justify the existence of its criminal outpost in the Middle East, claims to speak for all Jews while advocating the ethnic cleansing of “Greater Israel” and other war crimes. The resulting international condemnation of Zionist aggression, spun as a surge in anti-Jewish hate by a media establishment in the pocket of the thugs doing the killing, frightens “the Jews” — who’ve been propagandized from the cradle to believe that everyone wants them dead simply because they’re Jewish — back into the arms of their Zionist manipulators. But while it is undeniable that Jews in the West enjoy some privilege as a trickle-down benefit from their leaders’ influence, it has long baffled me why more of them don’t condemn those leaders’ crimes, at least for self-preservation’s sake, since they reflect so poorly on the entire group. When a serious effort is finally made to rip the Zionist facehugger off Lady Liberty, Americans will remember who it was that pimped her out and then cut out the people’s tongues to stop their complaining.
But Jewish apathy toward going down with the Zionist ship makes more sense as a manifestation of learned helplessness, itself the product of the very real trauma of epidemic child sexual abuse within the Orthodox tradition. Those who try to blow the whistle are ostracized as traitors, so the majority keep silent, becoming complicit in the abuse and even developing a Stockholm Syndrome-like loyalty to the group. The powerful Chabad Lubavitch sect, which counts Epstein lawyer Alan “I kept my underwear on” Dershowitz and Jared Kushner as adherents, is particularly notorious for protecting child abusers, shuttling offenders between cities (a tactic also used to protect Catholic predators within the priesthood), colluding with secular authorities to bury the charges, and ostracizing parents of victims. One popular Chabad rabbi admitted in 2013 that most of the children in its programs had been sexually abused at some point and even defended the practice as harmless, arguing it was up to the victims how they felt about the experience. Tunnels discovered beneath the group’s Brooklyn headquarters in a police raid last year contained stained child-sized mattresses and other kiddie furniture. Ghislaine Maxwell, half-Jewish only on her father’s side, officially converted in prison to access privileges supplied by a Chabad-linked group. The absence of a strong cultural taboo against child predation in many Jewish communities means that even if some amoral entity were to entrap Netanyahu himself in bed with a dead girl or a live boy, it’s unlikely that he would lose the support of diaspora Zionists. Big Parasite itself is thus all but immune to the pedophilic blackmail it has weaponized against the world, and only this can explain its staying power.
Child-Trafficking As Statecraft
Epstein began working for this pedocentric network in the 1980s with the CIA, and by 1983 was working with media baron and Israeli spy Robert Maxwell, according to former Israeli intelligence officer Ari Ben Menashe. While the US and Israel were already running multiple trafficking rings that used underage children to compromise powerful figures as part of their Iran-Contra operations, Israel’s military intelligence directorate Aman had selected Epstein to deal with a more serious threat: the US was considering making peace with the Palestinians and had to be stopped, Epstein was told, with orders to set up his own ring and blackmail presidential candidate Bill Clinton with underage girls. Through L Brands and Victoria’s Secret owner Les Wexner, a billionaire faithful to the Zionist cause with mafia ties hidden beneath his respectable clothing business, Epstein was outfitted with a massive Manhattan townhouse outfitted with state-of-the-art surveillance in every room, a seemingly bottomless bank account, and a low-effort cover story that cast him as money manager for Wexner, who as co-founder of the Mega Group, a “philanthropic club” where 20 of the wealthiest and most powerful Zionists could focus on advancing the cause of Jewish supremacy, had a potentially unlimited amount of power and influence at his fingertips.
While Clinton was such an enthusiastic participant in his own compromising that it’s impossible to say which honeypot (Monica Lewinsky being the most famous) secured his cooperation, a nation that views the peaceful solution to a conflict as a greater evil than child-trafficking has clearly lost the plot. By the time Epstein’s operation was in full swing in 2000, Israel was literally run by (“alleged”) rapists. Ehud Barak, who would later be accused by Virginia Giuffre of raping her so violently she bled for hours and becoming aroused by her terror as she begged for her life, was prime minister, while Moshe Katsev, who would later be convicted of raping one of his employees, was president. That same year, the nation welcomed back Arie Scher, its disgraced vice-consul of Rio de Janeiro, after he was found to be trafficking children to Israeli tourists in Brazil, not only not prosecuting him but handing him a promotion as Consul of Canberra (Australia, in a rare show of good judgment, wouldn’t let him in). Another Israeli child trafficking ring was exposed in 2018 in Colombia, operating with protection from local authorities.
Barak seemed genuinely surprised when his friendship with Epstein, whom he would continue to visit at least 30 times in the US after the pedophile’s 2008 conviction required him to register as a sex offender, became a sticking point for voters during his attempted return as Prime Minister in 2019. Unwilling to believe Israelis had suddenly started caring about rape, especially rape of impoverished shiksas, Barak blamed his opponent Benjamin Netanyahu for ginning up a “poisoned atmosphere” to distract from the multiple corruption charges pending against him. Barak had a point — Israel had officially declared itself a Jewish supremacist state the previous year, abdicating any responsibility to protect its second-class citizens. After a 2024 UN report condemned Israel’s acceptance of the use of sexual humiliation, harassment and torture against Palestinian prisoners, 10 IDF soldiers were arrested for gang-raping a Palestinian man being held without evidence as a Hamas fighter. The backlash was immediate as government officials — led by Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir, who called the rapists “heroes” — rallied to secure their release and demand those who ordered the arrest be punished. The soldiers’ lawyers even argued they had acted in self-defense.
Revelation of the Method
Unlike most intelligence agency honeytraps, Epstein’s trafficking ring included a public relations aspect, with glossy media profiles depicting him as a suave, mysterious, Jay Gatsby-by-way-of-James Bond playboy jet-setting around the world with princes and presidents, a bevy of (near)-babies surrounding him at all times. It is absurd to believe that it took a decade after survivor Maria Farmer first reported Epstein and Maxwell to the FBI for the agency to build a case against him even as he carried on with the same behaviors, or that the agency only found time to interview Farmer in 2006 after Palm Beach police made them look bad by charging the pedophile with abusing a 14-year-old girl. When the Palm Beach case landed in their lap as well, they waited until it was resolved in that jurisdiction, then wrote to victims falsely claiming a “thorough investigation” was underway. The agency’s behavior is less baffling given the FBI has been sexually compromised from its very beginnings, with founder J. Edgar Hoover blackmailed out of the gate by the same organized crime syndicate the agency was established to police, forcing him to deny the very existence of the Mafia for years. One can attribute the same motive to Kash Patel’s “who’re you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?” wide-eyed denials of reality.
Nor was the FBI the only law enforcement agency to mysteriously drop the ball on the 52-page indictment. Palm Beach State Attorney Barry Krischer abandoned the charges that could have put Epstein away for life after meeting with his defense team, deciding probation and a psychological evaluation would be sufficient punishment given that the girls were “prostitutes.” Krischer, who retired the following year, was in charge of the state’s Crime Against Children unit, yet had habitually refused to prosecute cases of men raping teenage girls even when his inaction led to further harm coming to the girls. His true motives were likely revealed in the award he would receive 10 years later from the Anti-Defamation League, an organization that was literally founded to protect Jewish pedophile and murderer Leo Frank from justice after he was found guilty of murdering his 13-year-old factory employee Mary Phagan. Bellowing the quiet part out loud, the ADL’s “Jurisprudence Award” is supposed to recognize “an outstanding contribution to the legal profession and to the community at large, while exemplifying the principles upon which the Anti-Defamation League was founded.” It certainly did that last part.
Palm Beach police chief Michael Reiter kicked the case up to US Attorney Alex Acosta, who also fumbled it, agreeing with Epstein’s lawyers to an infuriating no-prosecution deal on a single charge of soliciting a teen prostitute that would allow him to serve just 18 months in jail with day release. Victims were not told of the agreement, in violation of federal law. Acosta would later admit when he was interviewed by the Trump transition team for a cabinet post that he had been ordered to back off Epstein because “he belongs to intelligence,” but this was apparently acceptable to the incoming administration, which appointed him Secretary of Labor. Only when the public learned of the interaction was he pressured to resign.
Epstein had briefly considered fleeing to Israel like so many pedophiles before him in order to escape conviction, even complaining to friends that an “antisemitic conspiracy” in Palm Beach was to blame for his prosecution, a notion other Palm Beach Jews who didn’t spend their days molesting children found ludicrous. But instead, he embraced his new routine, leaving his cell each day to go to “work” and sneaking girls into his “office,” and served just 13 months of his sentence. He ignored the requirement that he register a sex offender and was never asked to, nor did his wealthy and powerful friends drop him over his conviction.
As an asset of both US and Israeli intelligence, insulated in the personal wealth of mafia-affiliated Mega Group billionaires, surrounded by the wealthiest, most influential, and most powerful people he and Maxwell could lure into their nest, a retinue of nymphets obediently attending to his every need, Epstein likely believed that truly “getting caught” was impossible and thus resumed flaunting his lifestyle after weaseling out of the 2006 charges. Indeed, it’s the flaunting of the crime that makes for such an effective humiliation ritual. Confronted with such a towering miscarriage of justice, it is impossible to believe in the integrity of the US political system, and the destabilization of society advances by leaps and bounds.
Sex Slaves Breed Thought Slaves
Only by recognizing the role of sexual blackmail and the networks that run it can Americans understand the generational betrayal that has reduced our political system to just another asset-stripping mechanism. Decades under the thumb of Big Parasite have withered the US from a proud world power to a desiccated husk, one unethical compromise at a time. Dignity and patriotism left the building when, fresh off a starring role in the assassination of JFK, Israel persuaded his successor Lyndon Johnson to look the other way as it attempted to sink the naval intelligence ship USS Liberty, killing hundreds of Americans to drag Washington into its war with Egypt. Johnson, repeatedly blocking rescue efforts so as to leave no survivors to tell the truth about the attack, inaugurated a traitorous tradition that subsequent presidents have followed religiously. Israel will be permitted to violate everything from international law to the laws of physics, while the US will stand by to enforce its lunatic demands. Americans, reduced to serfs on an Israeli plantation, embraced the scam of Christian Zionism to try to make some moral sense of the situation, a coping mechanism the Israeli lobby has eagerly exploited with propaganda campaigns aimed at turning American churches into recruiters for what is ultimately a self-effacing death cult. As the US’ national debt spirals uncontrollably alongside its foreign aid bill, it is a wonder Big Parasite has not instituted a debt forgiveness program that allows Americans to offer up their nubile young daughters as payment. What do you get the nation that has everything, besides shame?
Only when the role of institutionalized pedophilia as the driving force within the halls of power is taken into account does the behavior of American politicians, uniting in lockstep to tear up the Bill of Rights so Israel’s feelings aren’t hurt, make any sense. Mere avarice or lust for power cannot account for the anti-human, shortsighted cravenness that defines the political class. Warehouses full of video recordings of these people and their associates schtupping 14-year-olds can.
When a State Department official praises Israel over the US and brags about sporting a Star of David necklace despite being Italian, it’s not because they don’t understand optics. When the Democratic Party commits political Seppuku by embracing a “hug Bibi” pro-Israel strategy in the middle of a genocide, it’s not because they love the wildly corrupt Israeli PM more than their jobs. When BlackRock-controlled brands like Bud Light and Jaguar clamber on board the LGBT bandwagon in the most tone-deaf way possible, offending their entire customer base and tanking their stock price with commercials that constitute aesthetic terrorism, it’s not because they love gay people or hate money. These are acts of ritual humiliation that provide Big Parasite with spiritual nourishment. Many of Epstein’s victims report that he and Maxwell seemed to take as much pleasure in their fear and distress as they did in the sex itself. Like the girls, blackmailed politicians must betray themselves anew with every assignment, cringing through life like a kicked dog knowing somewhere in a nondescript warehouse sits evidence of crimes that could put them away for a very long time. It’s kiss the Wailing Wall or kiss their ass goodbye.
Destroying Something Beautiful
While the media has lazily followed Alan Dershowitz’s lead in characterizing Epstein’s victims as trailer-trash juvenile delinquents barely on the wrong side of the age of consent, Epstein and his associates were in fact very picky about their prey, spending at least as much time strategizing the ruination of the flower of gentile femininity (the absence of Jewish girls from the “sisterhood,” confirmed by Maria Farmer and also notable among the victims of producer Harvey Weinstein, is notable given the ethnic-supremacist ideology of the parasite class) as they did on compromising VIPs — though admittedly it wasn’t rocket science getting a prince or a president to drop his zipper in the presence of underage beauties. They wanted “white girls” who appeared “prepubescent” and demure, according to survivor Courtney Wild, while another report specified their ideal type as “nymphishly thin, with no tattoos.” Maxwell insisted the girls should be “as young as possible.” Not only were they required to be virginal and disease-free (on pain of death), but they were forbidden from drinking, smoking, and using drugs and put on strict diets if they started to gain weight. Academic achievement and artistic talent were a bonus. Youth and beauty were important, but it was purity and innocence they were targeting.
Epstein was ideally placed to recruit girls — and charm their wealthy parents — from his first job, having been installed as math and science teacher at the prestigious Dalton School despite lacking even a college degree in what was likely an intelligence posting designed to position him in New York high society. He leveraged his financial benefactor Les Wexner’s Victoria’s Secret brand to great effect, enticing girls to his townhouse by pretending to be a model scout. At Interlochen Center for the Arts, where he had attended a youth music camp, his name emblazoned on the “Jeffrey Epstein Scholarship Lodge” helped him pick up musicians, while New York Academy of Art’s dean of students Lisa Guggenheim allegedly pimped out her choicest young students to him, among them Maria Farmer, the painter who would first report Epstein to the FBI.
So innocent when she first met Epstein at a gallery show that she actually believed his explanation that the steady trickle of young girls (many in school uniforms) in and out of his townhouse were Victoria’s Secret models on casting calls, Farmer, hooked with the promise of helping her art career, reluctantly agreed to travel to brand owner Les Wexner’s Ohio estate to work as an artist in residence. Trapped on the well-guarded property and verbally abused by Wexner’s wife Abigail, she was kept under constant surveillance and forbidden to eat at the “Jewish-only” country club on the property, losing 20 pounds as she gradually lost her will to resist.
Farmer only snapped out of her despondency when Epstein and Maxwell sexually assaulted her during a visit to the estate. The pair had set their sights on her younger sister Annie after spotting a nude photo of her that Farmer had used for a painting, and Farmer realized she had been bundled off to Wexner’s so that they could have full access to the younger girl. While she ultimately escaped and reunited with her sister, her art career had been destroyed, not helped, by her association with Epstein, who had forced her to turn down a Hollywood painting commission so she could be locked away in Ohio instead. He and Maxwell threatened to cut her off from “art related opportunities,” and she fled the city to get away from them. Despite her pre-Epstein success selling $20,000 paintings and showing in galleries, she stopped painting for 20 years, explaining to Whitney Webb, “They destroyed me on purpose.”
While one can only speculate on how many other talented young girls had their creativity deliberately snuffed out, or why this was so important to Epstein and Maxwell, it is clear that many brilliant works of art, music, and literature that could have uplifted humanity were not made because their creators were made to give up. This has left space for Big Parasite, with its chokehold on the entertainment industry, to aesthetically terrorize the population with soulless mediocrity without having to worry about competition. Under their guidance, music and other forms of popular entertainment have become not a celebration of life but a grooming tool, with Diddy’s “freakouts” only the latest sexual blackmail scandal to surface in an ecosystem that was literally built by organized crime. The sexualization of young girls by popular culture and the normalization of pornography have inspired epic pearl-clutching by politicians willing to look at everything except the source. The role of Epstein’s virgin sacrifices in the runaway success of Big Parasite in its cultural warfare against the West should thus not be underestimated.
Playing the Box
The surest route to long-term compliance with an unconscionable order is tricking the target into active participation in enforcing it, a strategy Epstein himself called “playing the box.” Only when their own participation in the trafficking ring had ceased with Epstein’s death did institutional enablers like JP Morgan Chase and the Virgin Islands government experience attacks of conscience over what they’d facilitated for so many years, though both stopped short of taking accountability and blamed the other for allowing their cooperation to be bought. Journalists who had obediently spiked negative coverage of the pedophile during his life marked his death with disingenuous bewilderment at why the media never looked into the girls.
Efforts to defuse the Epstein bomb by grooming the media were underway long before the pedophile was rearrested and “suicided.” Israeli intelligence operatives poisoned the epistemological well in 2017, priming the American public to reject future political pedophilia scandals by seeding 4chan and other social media platforms with the QAnon psy-op. Q recast Trump — whose mentor had been Roy Cohn, perhaps the most famous sexual blackmailer in US history — as a real-life superhero saving trafficked children from Deep State pedophiles. Smothering its kernel of truth (the rich and powerful are in fact preying on children on an industrial scale) in a bath of bullshit (JFK Jr faked his death and is coming back any minute now! here’s Hillary Clinton in a snuff film!), it suggested Trump was only pretending to sell out to the Deep State while secretly outflanking them in “5-D chess” ordinary folks weren’t smart enough to understand. The narrative punch was further spiked with promises that hundreds of sealed indictments dropping any minute now would send Hillary Clinton and other prominent Democrats off to Guantanamo Bay for life, and the cryptic post format encouraged followers to waste hours hunting for hidden messages, effectively making them participants in deceiving themselves. It should surprise no one that both QAnon itself and the 4chan /pol/ board where it originated were confirmed as Israeli intelligence honeypots earlier this year, with half of all /pol/ posts originating from IP addresses in that country. The Q narrative was tailor-made to pacify millions of Americans with hopium — why rise up against the government when there was a chance the “white hats” within the administration might be engaged in deeply heroic feats of child-rescue behind the scenes? — while ensuring the Epstein revelations would be met with yawns and disbelief by “real” journalists.
Victims were also tricked into complicity with their abuse with the order to recruit other girls for pay, a dynamic that ensured their silence and kept many in Epstein’s thrall for months or years. What Palm Beach police described as a “sexual abuse pyramid scheme” was far more effective than threats alone. Many girls dutifully came back with friends, needing the money or believing the false promises of career advancement that had lured them to the property in the first place, even as they gradually lost their will to resist under repeated assaults by Epstein and Maxwell. These encounters were designed to humiliate and strip the girls of agency, and the pressure to recruit other girls blurred the line between victim and perpetrator so effectively that some opted to remain silent out of fear of prosecution, a valid concern given the aggressive legal tactics of Epstein’s defense team. Courtney Wild, who recalls bringing as many as 80 girls — all underage — to Epstein for $200-$300 per girl during the three years she spent in his orbit in Palm Beach, says the money kept her out of homelessness, but at a price. When she met Epstein at 14, she was an A student and captain of the cheerleading team despite a troubled home life. Deemed too old for the predator’s tastes at 17, she drifted into stripping and began using drugs, eventually spending time in prison while her abuser continued feeding on her peers. Had the network bankrolling Epstein had the foresight to provide his victims with the financial anesthetic of a “retirement plan,” allowing them to convince themselves they were benefiting from the abuse years after they’d aged out of the Lolita zone, one wonders how many would have spoken out at all.
The same model of grooming that saw Epstein’s victims evolve from shocked repulsion at the public sex acts performed on his properties to reluctant participation and ultimately to gathering juicy details on the VIPs they were loaned out to can be observed in any society under parasitic exploitation. A wet-behind-the-ears politician initially appalled at the feeding frenzy of lobbyists bidding on his integrity will soon be hooked on their money, perhaps even coming to enjoy the quarterly debriefing with the “AIPAC babysitter” the Israeli group has apparently assigned to everyone in Congress except Thomas Massie. Americans who protested George W. Bush’s illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003 didn’t even raise an eyebrow when his successor Barack Obama, Nobel Peace Prize in hand, began bombing five more countries, and later freaked out when Trump threatened to end the war in Ukraine. Repeat an atrocity enough times and it becomes business as usual.
All Wars are Pedos’ Wars
It’s hard not to compare Epstein’s girls — thrown away once they aged out of jailbait, having given their best years in servitude to masters who saw them as “trash” — with the (mostly) male victims of the US military-industrial complex. These, too, are often left broke and broken on the streets after too much killing has rendered them “unfit for polite society” (in the cringeworthy words of Pete Hegseth). War historically harvests the cream of the generational crop, sacrificing the strongest and bravest boys to enrich a ruling class whose own children always dodge conscription, and while voluntary service has lowered the profile of such systematic abuse, poor kids with no prospects are easily enticed into joining the armed forces the same way girls were sucked into Epstein’s world: promises of good pay, good education, and the opportunity to achieve their dreams. Through the ur-humiliation ritual of boot camp, they become aggressive little golems eager to wipe their asses with international law (and their own self-preservation instincts) for America’s Best Friend, blasting brown civilians until they end up losing a limb or their mind and get sent home, the realization finally dawning that they’ve been used and thrown away. Reading US Third Air Force Commander Lt. Gen Richard Clark tell the Jerusalem Post (once owned by Robert Maxwell) that US troops would be ready and willing to die for Israel, how many veterans felt like General Patton, horror dawning that they have defeated the wrong enemy and doomed the world? Certainly, Israel’s continued existence as a nuclear-armed ethnostate determined to achieve the ultimate loosh harvest by conducting the world’s first live-streamed genocide in Gaza — gorging themselves on the suffering not only of the Palestinians but of everyone who watches the violence knowing that it’s funded by their tax dollars and that there’s nothing they can do about it —is not going to leave many survivors.
While war for its own sake is beloved by Big Parasite, it too has a parallel pedocentric motive: extracting foreign nations’ nubile natural resources for financial and sexual exploitation through UN “peacekeepers” and private military contractors. Sex trafficking by UN peacekeepers is so common it has its own Wikipedia article. The peacekeeping force seems tailor-made for predators, as they are not governed by local laws, and their home country is unlikely to follow up on a claim against them by a foreigner halfway around the world. Abusers caught in the act are merely sent home. The UN has promised to beef up accountability for decades, but no change has been forthcoming, suggesting the widespread child rape is a feature, not a bug. In Haiti, where Hillary Clinton infamously intervened in 2010 to reduce the sentence of missionary Laura Silsby after Silsby was caught attempting to kidnap 33 children from the country, rape by peacekeepers has become so common that a 2017 investigation found only one woman in 12 who’ve been raped by a UN peacekeeper even bothers to report the abuse anymore, knowing nothing will be done. Wars and natural disasters both provide an ideal environment for stealing children, as populations are displaced and authorities distracted while the presence of foreign do-gooder operations is seen as normal, even desirable, by outsiders.
Because private military contractors are not subject to US or military law when operating overseas, they are extremely popular with intelligence agencies in need of plausible deniability for their black ops. They have also become synonymous with human trafficking. The CIA’s preferred contractor Dyncorp was forced to fire several employees in Bosnia in 1999 after two separate whistleblowers revealed the company was operating a sex trafficking ring with the help of the Serbian mafia, flying girls as young as 12 from Serbia, Russia, Ukraine, Moldova, and Romania into local brothels and sex clubs where they were trafficked to Dyncorp personnel as well as UN, NATO, and human rights NGO workers. Dyncorp was involved in all areas of the operation, forging documents, smuggling the girls through checkpoints, and tipping off brothel owners to raids. Despite an abundance of evidence that included the company’s Bosnia site director making a home video of himself raping two of the girls, no one was prosecuted, the girls were sent back home, and Dyncorp even kept its contract to provide police forces to the UN. However, the whistleblowers were fired. The plane Dyncorp used to bring the girls to Bosnia shared a tail number with a helicopter owned by Epstein, who was known to have purchased his own Yugoslavian sex slave Nadia Marcinkova during the civil war.
In 2004, Dyncorp contract workers at an airbase in Colombia filmed themselves molesting local kids and distributed the video in the streets of Bogota, suggesting self-blackmail may be de rigueur at the company as a form of mutually assured destruction. Another incriminating video leaked online in 2010 showing Dyncorp employees who’d been contracted to train the Afghan police force enjoying lapdances from a young boy dressed as a female. Pizzagate princess Hillary Clinton herself helped squash the story, though the scandal would ultimately leak again in a Wikileaks cable dump. Sex trafficking by military contractors is so common the Pentagon’s effort to ban it (presumably due to the bad publicity) was shot down by industry lobbyists in 2005.
In the glorified money laundering operation that is Vladimir Zelensky’s Ukraine, an entire generation of men has been sacrificed so the parasitic elite can indulge their perversions. White Angel, a paramilitary offshoot of the Israeli-funded neo-Nazi group Azov Battalion, has trafficked tens of thousands of children out of the country under orders from Zelensky’s government, taking advantage of demoralized and confused parents’ willingness to hand over their kids to “any person in military or police uniform” amid the fog of war. Paid $2,000 for each stolen child, the state-sponsored predators were deployed daily in villages across eastern Ukraine in a bid to strip its assets before the inevitable Russian victory, given orders to use violence against parents who would not voluntarily hand over their kids. Ending up an Israeli billionaire’s sex slave might actually be the more desirable of the options open to kidnapped Ukrainian children, however — many were allegedly sold for parts, with organ trafficking such big business in the country that the Verkhovna Rada literally legalized organ theft in 2021, removing the requirement for consent from a donor or relative. While the people of Ukraine have long since soured on their corrupt government, it is clear Zelensky and his puppet-masters are unwilling to permit the end of the war because of the sharp drop in income it would entail.
While Big Parasite consolidated itself under the cover of “Israel” when that nation was created, taking advantage of international sympathy towards Jews post-WW2 to ethnically cleanse its new home with shocking viciousness, it has always been a global network whose only real loyalty is to itself. Organized child sex trafficking is not a recent innovation. An attempted crackdown on “white slavery” in Eastern Europe in the late 19th century raised familiar questions regarding impoverished female victims’ agency in the sex trade, tolerance and even regulation of the trade by the authorities, and the ethnic dynamics of Jewish traders trafficking Polish and Galician nubiles — often tempted with promises of “real” jobs and wealthy husbands, or at least financial freedom — to slave auctions and Middle Eastern harems, their earnings heavily taxed or confiscated. Like Alan Dershowitz, modern apologists for the white slavers argue that desperate families’ willing sale of their daughters — some of whom might have already had sexual experience — in order to pay their debts constituted consensual prostitution, dismissing the stereotype of predatory Jewish slavers as a blood libel because Polish and Galician pimps existed as well and that if Jews hadn’t stepped in to run the sex trade with better business acumen, it would still have existed. Epstein, who bragged about buying “sex slave” Nadia Marcinkova from her parents in Yugoslavia, would be proud.
Pedo-Futurism
It is not only our present that has been hijacked by this criminal gang, but our future. Seemingly driven by the same pre-traumatic stress syndrome that leads them to see a Shoah in every shoelace, agents of Big Parasite have flooded the communications and technology sector with backdoored equipment and spyware so completely that surveillance is the expectation, not the exception. It is not an exaggeration to say that their quest for omniscience created the modern surveillance state, and that this process has been driven, enabled, and protected by sexual blackmailers. Robert Maxwell sold backdoored PROMIS communication software to 42 governments including the US in the 1980s, opening up the mother of all eavesdropping channels. Ghislaine’s sister Christine sold Chiliad datamining software to the FBI to enable its “War on Terror” through aggressive surveillance of Israel’s enemies, guiding US foreign policy off a cliff. Palantir, the CIA-funded pre-crime program that was recently handed centralized control over all US government systems, began as an extension of PROMIS and has blossomed into a dystopian surveillance behemoth whose executives openly boast about killing people and telegraph their allegiances by reminding the world that they “defer to Israel.” Ghislaine’s other sister Isabel opened the door to Big Parasite’s takeover of the internet by convincing Silicon Valley investors to pour funding into Israeli startups in the 1990s, leading to the success of companies like Commtouch, now a ubiquitous and hidden part of email systems used by Google and Microsoft (whose founder, Bill Gates, has likely been compromised by Epstein since the 1990s). Israeli startups acquired by US tech giants can easily take control of the company’s direction from within without disturbing the public-facing image of the company as all-American, and this has become standard operating procedure for Israel’s military intelligence Unit 8200, which has turned industry giants like Microsoft and Intel into espionage bonanzas even as their products degrade in quality, burdened and bloated with snitchware. When Netanyahu reminded smartphone users that they were “holding a piece of Israel,” he was not exaggerating — Israeli companies like Pegasus, Candiru and Ehud Barak’s Epstein-funded Carbyne911 have perfected the transformation of personal communications device into personal surveillance device.
Every elite sex trafficking scandal that becomes public is reported in a vacuum, as if there have not been hundreds if not thousands more not mentioned here. Evidence of similar rings can be found anywhere humanity’s baser instincts are exploited. Every time we fail to interrogate the “why” of these scandals beyond “powerful men are into forbidden fruit” and keep silent out of fear of offending the boot wedged firmly on our necks, we are giving our agency over to these predators. As long as there are assets left to strip, Big Parasite will be there, luxuriating in our cowardice while it grows fat off our distress. Epstein may be dead and gone, but the network that created him is still screwing us all.
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Good article.
I see the Epstein activities as an initiation ritual more than a blackmail process. I think most of the big fish involved knew exactly what was going on and enthusiastically went along to gain access to greater levels of power. Most of these guys were self-evidently too worldly (being grade-A creeps already) to be caught in a very visible honey pot trap. This may seem like a fine point, but presenting the situation as an entrapment gives the participants some sort of weak excuse for their transgressions. On the other hand, showing it as a voluntary initiation rite clarifies how bad these people really are.
I suspect the unspoken truth is that Epstein was more about Pizzagate-style rituals including much younger female AND male victims and nightmare crimes up to and including human sacrifice. They don’t need an ersatz temple on a secure island enclave to offer sex with young girls who have been trafficked, this probably happens in every large city in the US. I assume one of the goals of the people behind this nightmare is to once again be able to perform Jewish and other blood rituals in plain sight without fear of retribution. The effective suppression of Pizzagate suggests we may already be there.
You can distinctly recognize several of the faces in Maria Farmer’s picture, including Bill and Hillary, Maxwell, and others, including one Donald ((J)) Trump.
WOW, what an article. I was attempting to write the same thing but this article clearly exceeded my expectations! Thank you for your hard work in this matter!
Great article.
Helen of Destroy
An office at CBS News –
Secretary: Ben Shapiro on the phone.
Weiss: I got it. Hello, Ben. What’s up?
Shapiro: I just need to talk to somebody, Bari.
Weiss: Sure Ben. About what?
Shapiro: That antii-Semite slut Candace Owens is being so mean to me!
Weiss: I know, I know. She’s terrible.
Shapiro: She’s mocking me, making me sound like a petty child. I can’t stand it!
Weiss: And you being a beacon of morality. It just shows where she’s coming from.
Shapiro: Thanks Bari. Coming from you that means a lot to me.
Weiss: She can be really mean. She’s said mean things about me too.
Shapiro: And now she’s even mocking the Talmud! Openly saying it says Jews have the right to lie, steal, and murder.
Weiss: Well, it does say that, Ben.
Shapiro: I know, I know, but goyim aren’t supposed to know about that.
Weiss: Right. If the goyim knew we were really superior they might not take it well. Frankly, I think that’s why they hate us.
Shapiro: I’m sure you’re right. I’m so obviously smarter than Candace, Tucker, and all the rest. They’re jealous. But what can we do about this?
Weiss: I just had a thought. And maybe we could use CBS for this.
Shapiro: What is it?
Weiss: Maybe it’s time to educate the goyim to the fact that we are superior, and that’s why we’ve been given the … discretion to lie, steal, and murder.
Shapiro: Hmmm. That’s a very interesting idea. But how exactly would we educate the goyim to that?
Weiss: Well, we could start at CBS, but it would probably also take a massive army of influencers, blanketing the internet. People would hear these ideas coming from every direction. The message would overwhelm everything else.
Shapiro: That would be very expensive.
Weiss: I know, but Larry explained to me we have essentially infinite money. We control the money creation, so we can just make as much as we need.
Shapiro: So that’s where all these Jewish billionaires come from.
Weiss: Exactly. They’re not accidents. So I’m sure they would all work together on this, just as they’ve done in the past.
Shapiro: You make it sound like I could be a billionaire.
Weiss: Oh, I’m sure of it! Look at how much I got just for the Free Press.
Shapiro: Well, that makes me feel a lot better. A billionaire and a million influencers attacking Candace.
Weiss: A lot of them would be bots, of course. But the goyim can’t tell the difference.
Shapiro: No, they are so stupid. Thanks Bari. That really cheers me up. I’m going to plan my pitch to become a billionaire right now.
Weiss: Glad I could help, Ben. Good luck with that.
Shapiro: Shalom Bari.
Weiss: Shalom Ben.
The Jews are perverts who are addicted to violence, but they prefer to have someone else commit violence on their behalf. They use honey traps to catch powerful people, such as U.S. presidents, who can be blackmailed if they do not adhere to the Jews’ agenda. Donald Trump and Bill Clinton were videotaped having sex with children and raping teenage girls. Clinton even identified himself as a “the first Jewish President”. Trump is even worse, as he begged the Jews, “please, I did so much for Israel than anyone before me.” The power of Jewish blackmail is immense. Recently, the Jews have pressured the Australian government to pass laws banning and punishing anyone protesting against the Palestinian genocide. They claim that Jews are immune to committing crimes and were told, “pass laws to protect Israel or we will accuse you of being ‘antisemitic’.”
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The Epstein Affair will kill orange man politically. First, for many years he was close friends with the arch criminal Epstein. Next, he was raping under age girls. Finally, because of direct blackmail on Trump supplied by Epstein, he allowed himself to be blackmailed by Israel. Trump doing everything humanly possible to block release of the DOJ Epstein Files is all the proof we need.
Very sad indeed. This article brought tears to my eyes. The founders must also be crying in their graves. What has this country become. A pimp for Israel.
Great shame that Epstein was either murdered or the powers that be gave him an easier way out.
There would have been real value in a public trial.
But this is the US, and it was not to be.
Fantastic article summarizing our dire situation, but I do not think Christian Zionism is a “coping mechanism” – Christians are giving Jews a free pass for being god’s chosen, they really believe the Holy Bible to be “the word of god” and thus believe in Abraham all the way to Zion and the promised land which brings the world to it’s knees so the Lord can return and kill whoever still lives (after the Rapture of course, so they miss out on the action). If you study their death cult literature, they believe there will be wars and rumours of wars, that keep building up until the battle of Armageddon, then the Lord comes back and kills even more. So when Israel kills, you see, it is prophecy in action, something to rejoice. In fact the whole Bible is about killing, the OT is primarily about Yahweh’s faithful killing off rivals, then in the NT Jesus is a blood sacrifice, and whoever doesn’t believe gets eternal torture in hell. Wow, sounds just like an Israeli prison!
Christian Zionism is embraced for the promise of the Lord’s return – the faithful all go to heaven while the earth burned by the wrath of god – these dispensational dipshits want Israel to take the holy land back because it will prove their faith true – their god will return and shock all the non-believers into getting on their knees and worshipping like them. Christians brag all knees will bend when the Lord returns – proving their god is a tyrant just like the Bible OT god. My god is the only god is the highway to political fascism.
These evangelical pastors really believe that the formation of modern Israel is the road post to Armageddon and the Rapture. Fat bastard John Hagee screams this in his sermons, and it echoes the work of other crazy end time theorists like Hal Lindsey, whose book “The Late Great Planet Earth” convinced millions the end times was upon us. The Amerikan culture is infused with these end time beliefs, you don’t have to be an evangelist or even christian to believe some of it – because you see what is happening is inevitable, the “will of god”.
In fact, I would argue, the only reason why Jews were able to roll the United States was because of shared religious beliefs, this Jewish based Christian belief system is the mental condition which makes Christians willing cucks to the chosenites. God chose the Jews, the Bible says so, and if you want to go to heaven, you just gotta believe it – no matter how much contrary evidence says otherwise. It is obvious to a non-believer, that if god choose the Jews, then god must be the devil. But to a believer, such a conclusion is impossible, god is holy and good, and he chose the jews, so no matter what the jews do, god sanctions it. Because of this mental condition, the daily murder of Palestinians is just shed off of Christian minds like water off a goose.
Christians willingly play second string to Jews because of their Bible beliefs. They are taught this, they are willing slaves of the jews, they even go to church and kneel before a jew god. It is obvious Christians lack self esteem, and accept servitude, and that their real god is authority, the state, and jews. Christians are willing slaves of the jews. They are not coping, they are singing hosannahs.
I hope to see more of your writings didnt know you were on substack,rock on!
I think the bastard is still alive. Mossad came and got their asset back.
There is good reason to leave Epstein is still alive, perhaps enjoying the beach in Haifa Israel after his alleged ‘death’
The day Epstein was ‘suicided’ … Epstein was in fact reported as being extracted, driven out of jail in an elite-squad van before his ‘body was found’ … This occurred under half-Jewish and also former-CIA US Attorney General Bill Barr … the son of Donald Barr, who published a novel about sex-slavery fantasies, and was headmaster of the Dalton School giving Epstein his first job … quite the coinkydink, no?
This on 4chan within hours of it happening
The 4 stages of Jeffrey Epstein awareness
It’s a ritual alright, but not necessarily “initiation”. Clinton was already U.S. president, how higher can you get? I don’t think it was exactly blackmail either, but more exactly voluntary blackmail. They knew they were being recorded.
Probably, these people in the so-called elite voluntarily submit to such procedures to keep being part of the group and being promoted. They have their fun, the catch is that if you leave… Well, you can’t leave. Or else.
I think this explains the huge amount of famous people that were connected through Epstein/Ghislaine. Clinton, Trump, Gates, Woody Allen, Mick Jagger, hell, even David Copperfield. It’s almost a who’s who of the rich and famous.
This was also not just a random personal thing, but possibly organized by CIA or some such agency. Ghislaine’s father, Robert Maxwell, was a known Mossad spook. It follows that Ghislaine and Maxwell were too.
What are the odds that this unknown creepy guy with a fortune that has no official explanation was “friends” with almost all famous people?
Excellent article. What a concise summation of the pathetic state of “American democracy” in your first sentence!
I assumed this article would be a Phil Giraldi style recitation of facts, mostly known to the observant, it was more.
Of course we’re left with the same Phil Giraldi problem, we now know how truly awful the elites ( that’s a generous description) are but left only with apathy.
Whatever radical politician that comes along and promises ( lying of course) to burn the rotting corpse of this government—- I’ll vote for them. ( I know voting doesn’t work ).
Metaphorically burn it all down. Oh wait, I can write a letter to my congressman, they can fix this!
“American democracy has devolved into a humiliation ritual in which we are expected to pledge support for people who hate us so they can steal our property, molest our children, and punish us for talking about their crimes. In election after election we are pressured to declare allegiance to one morally bankrupt criminal, simply because the other morally bankrupt criminal in the race might be even worse, thus becoming complicit in the election of a morally bankrupt criminal. ”
THIS WOMAN, Miss Buyniski (I think it’s a woman)…DESERVES THE PULITZER FOR PULVERIZING PUBLICATION. Best opening paragraph EVER. Dispatch the award forthwith!
There’s a term for these people: Heretics.
Unfortunately our new religion, liberalism, doesn’t register Christian Zionism as such.
Recall the ever problematic Tucker Carlson describing Christian Zionists as heretics? He called them “a venomous coalition.” Of course, TC recanted his liberal heresy when his masters ordered him to do so.
Recall the coward at Heritage, Kevin Roberts. He recanted too when his master said to do so. Here’s a quote about the Heritage Foundation creep:
“ You [ Kevin Roberts ] stand for nothing. You live on your knees and you crawl on your belly and you eat their shit”
— NF
What picture is that?
If the US doesn’t change course and drop Israhell and its AIPAC demons…
http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/how-the-ashkenazi-jews-conquered-the-west/
…then Israhell will destroy America.
http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/is-america-cursed/
Even though they’ve already turned us all into Pavlov Dogs.
http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2016/02/24/turning-humans-into-pavlov-dogs/
Source?
There has never been democracy . It was always a ‘privilege ‘, of only the most ideal family, village , city , united people in systemic survival by organisation, co-operation , consensus . Mythological , yes . However there has always been Patriots and Traitors , Egomaniacs and Psychopaths . I’m sorry America . One Citizenship . One Allegiance . One Passport . Love of your ‘neighbourhood ‘, or Exile . Epstein was a gun runner , not Mossad …CIA . Guns and drugs and Whores . Is there anymore you can make honey ? I need another handbag like Hail Netanyahu . Epstein was worth 700$ mill at least . Hail the criminals . Distract , deflect . What society would allow itself be run by people with no loyalty ? Which elite would be so benevolent to force their kids to enlist for death , to brace stock markets ? Push a narrative to deflect . Invent . An elite , who considers its own citizens as a commodity to extort . Blow the Shofar in a desert of your myths . There was no honey pot blackmail gang . It was entertainment and stress relief from the trauma of war against human dignity . The cult of insatiability to the grave . Iran Contra . Fox News was invented on its profits . They invented lots .
The one right there in the article.
No. 7 of 9
Faggots, pedophiles, greasy kikes, sexual deviants, liars, thieves, ridiculously incompetent Blacks and Browns, good ole boy shit talkers, kikesuckers (figuratively and literally) run this dying nation. SOME OF US WARNED YOU PEOPLE DECADES AGO, but…………
Oh and yes Epstein is alive in muh Israel.
People with fortunes, famous people socialize?
Dear friends Read this article about why I’ve become a nihilist-pessimist and why I’ve decided to stop supporting Democrats, Republicans, The Green Party, Bernie Sanders, and governments—whether right-wing, progressive centrists, or left-wing. I believe humans are naturally evil, and as the anarchist Bakunin said, if you give power and wealth to even the most honest revolutionary, they will eventually turn into a tyrant. I think it might not be a bad idea to create a political system led by a scientifically programmed, neutral, democratic artificial intelligence supercomputer government.
Read this article about Noam Chomsky’s connection, defense, and support for Jeffrey Epstein. I also came across information suggesting that Jeffrey Sachs was on Epstein’s email list of people invited to Epstein Island.
I thought Chomsky was a saint, this is crazy !!
Chomsky’s friendship with Epstein speaks volumes about progressive politics
By: Kavita Krishnan | Sunday, 12/21/2025 11:27 AM | Printable version
Source of article (translated from spanish to english): https://www.aporrea.org/ddhh/a347950.html
“I’ve met [all] kinds of people, even real war criminals. I don’t regret meeting any of them.” This was the belligerent response of the well-known intellectual Noam Chomsky, in 2023, to a newspaper’s question about his relations with Jeffrey Epstein 1. More recently, Epstein’s emails reveal that he maintained a close friendship with Chomsky and his wife 2.
Of particular interest is Chomsky’s written testimony (undated, but not earlier than 2017) for Epstein, where he calls their friendship, which lasted six years, an “interesting” and “fruitful” experience thanks to Epstein’s open-mindedness and intellectual capacity and says that “Jeffrey has been able to organize repeatedly, sometimes on the fly, very productive meetings with leading figures in science and mathematics, as well as in world politics, people whose work and activity I knew, although I had never expected to meet them personally.”
Andrew Mountbatten’s infamous Newsnight interview was asked in Windsor 3 if in retrospect, knowing that Epstein was a pedophile and sexual predator, he felt “guilt, regret or shame” about his friendship with Epstein. No, he said, “and the reason is that the people I met and the opportunity I had to learn from him and through him were really very useful to me… (which) gave truly beneficial results in matters that have nothing to do with (his crimes).”
Both Chomsky and Andrew say they don’t regret being friends with Epstein because through him they were able to meet interesting and important people.
Andrew faces the accusation of having raped a minor provided to him by Ghislaine Maxwell 4 and Epstein. I must stress at this point that meeting or meeting with Epstein does not in any way imply that Chomsky was a co-participant in his crimes against girls and women. I do not suggest that he is guilty by association nor am I interested in catching him in a resignation. But for me the question is this: What does Chomsky’s relationship with Epstein tell us about whether victims of sexual assault matter to us from the standpoint of our politics, of left-wing and progressive politics?
By 2005, authorities had already begun investigating the allegations of 36 minors, one of whom was as young as 14 years old, whom Epstein had pressured into giving him sexual massages and who had made them available to other men. A lot of evidence was presented to support the victims’ claims and Epstein was eventually charged in 2008. charged with 60 federal crimes, enough to be sentenced to life in prison.
However, Epstein, in an infamous sentence, received no more than a simple reprimand. He reached a favorable agreement by confessing to a minor crime, consisting of having asked a minor to prostitute herself, and spent 13 months in prison in an open regime, being released during the day and returning at night to the penitentiary. All this was the subject of extensive public debates and criticized in the mainstream media.
In 2023, Chomsky explained why he and his wife befriended Epstein despite his conviction for sex crimes against age. “What was known about Jeffrey Epstein was that he had been convicted of a crime and had served the sentence,” he said. “In accordance with current legal regulations in the United States, this is clean of dust and straw.”
Let’s take a closer look.
Chomsky is an icon of the left whose writings enlightened entire generations about the nature of power, the impunity of powerful people, and the propaganda that fabricates consensus with this systemic inequality, violence, and impunity. If working-class children complained about being recruited by a wealthy businessman to force them to do unhealthy and dangerous work, and the businessman managed to get away with it, would Chomsky say he was now clean of dust and chaff?
However, the norms seem to change if the working-class children in question are girls, recruited and enslaved to prostitute themselves and not to work in a factory. In Chomsky’s political world, these individual victims of sexual predation are invisible.
The key term in Chomsky’s testimony is “current legal regulations.” What it implies is that the MeToo movement has altered the legality and that Chomsky’s friendship with Epstein should not be judged according to this new feminist norm. But this is not true. Even police officers publicly condemned Epstein’s pact with the prosecution, calling it a mockery of current standards of justice, as did most mainstream media commentators. Why did Chomsky willingly accept the criteria of the pact that had fallen to shameful levels by all accounts?
In a 2008 interview, after admitting his guilt, Epstein used an incredible metaphor, which revealed how he viewed his actions and the “current legal regulations.” He “compared himself to Gulliver shipwrecked among the little inhabitants of Lilliput,” saying that “Gulliver’s playful character had unintended consequences. That’s the thing about wealth: it comes with unforeseen burdens and advantages.”
Recall that in his email to Epstein, Andrew said goodbye with the words “Play later.” Epstein and his minions see pedophile predation as the fruit of a “playful character.” Epstein himself considered himself special, authorized by his wealth to play with small people such as underage girls who are penniless or at the bottom of the social ladder. The current legal regulations are the work of small and narrow-minded people who cannot understand the culture of those who are much above their level.
As a public intellectual, Chomsky considers himself a defender of “little people.” However, she befriended Epstein and gave him her endorsement, but so far she has not spoken in support of the little victims. The fact that Chomsky expressed admiration for Epstein’s ability to pick up the phone and immediately contact all manner of bigwigs is illustrative: didn’t he really think that this ability, those connections, had something to do with the mildness of his punishment?
Why did Chomsky even write the aforementioned testimony in favor of Epstein, addressed to “whoever may be interested”? We know that Epstein launched a major public relations campaign to rehabilitate his image after pleading guilty to the crime of sexual abuse of minors. Part of that campaign included donations to universities and meetings with intellectuals and scientists, who contributed to washing its tarnished image. Did Chomsky write his testimony at Epstein’s request as a contribution to his public relations campaign? Chomsky wrote the testimony in his capacity as a public figure: he now has a duty to explain to the public why he did it.
The problem is that Chomsky is no exception. Here in India, I have just read glowing reviews of a staging by Mahmud Faruqui in Dastan-e-Ret-Samadhi, an adaptation of the Hindi-written novel Ret Samadhi (for which the writer and translator won the Booker Prize). Faruqui was once convicted of rape and his sentence was overturned by a higher court.
The judge who acquitted him accepted the conclusions of the court that convicted him, giving credibility to the victim’s statement and the fact that he had said “no”. According to the spirit and letter of the current legislation, this is rape, period. However, the judge created a new legal concept, softening the current legal regulations to declare acquittal: a “no undecided”, he ruled, “can mean a yes”.
The very expression of “not undecided” reminds us that the victim said no, which shows that she was in fact sexually violated against her will. Progressive friends of mine have even told me that “he has been acquitted, so he is innocent, so why should we pillory him, we cannot punish him in life”. To each of them I say that they are free to criticize or applaud Faruqui, but from every point of view every time they praise him they corroborate and propagate the motto of “an undecided no is a yes.” Like Chomsky, you too are delighted to approve of the most grotesque and absurd mockery of legal norms.
The judge of the “undecided no” applied more demanding criteria to the no of an educated woman: it was up to her to express the no with the necessary emphatic force for the man to understand it. Instead, he applied a very lax criterion to the man: despite his mastery of language, literature, the performing arts and cinema, that man could not understand that no is no. You can’t expect him to ask the woman if he had any doubts: you said no, do you want me to stop?
Chomsky was dazzled by Epstein and another of the guests at his table, the “great artist” Woody Allen (also accused of sexual abuse by his own daughter when she was little). Indian literary and cultural progressives are dazzled by the art of man, with his fig leaf of the “not indecisive”.
If you perceive accusations of sexual assault against a man as irrelevant to your political judgment of his intellect, his art, and his ideas, you are the opposite of progressive. The rules have advanced and you’d do better to catch up or you’ll miss the boat.
Kavita Krishnan is a feminist activist and writer
Helen Buyniski’s recent Unz Review article, “Sexual Blackmail Makes the World Go Round,” may be remembered as the first moment when the vocabulary of metaphysics quietly slipped into mainstream political journalism. Her deliberate use of the term “loosh” signals far more than literary flair; it marks a threshold between two explanatory paradigms—one material, the other energetic.
For decades, political analysts have described corruption in the language of economics, ideology, or psychology. Buyniski goes deeper. She outlines a system sustained not merely by money or policy, but by humiliation and complicity—rituals that drain vitality from the populace and feed the hierarchy that rules them. That description echoes a concept long known in esoteric thought: that human emotion, especially fear and shame, can be harvested as an energy source. Monroe called it “loosh.” In modern Gnostic terms, it is the psychic fuel that powers the overlay—the parasitic control-field superimposed upon living reality.
The Epstein network she invokes functions, therefore, not just as a political scandal but as a ritual engine. Blackmail is its visible mechanism; energetic extraction is its hidden one. Participants are bound through mutual corruption, each layer compromised into silence while radiating despair and moral nausea to the collective field. The architecture is fractal: the same pattern repeats in institutions, media, and even the culture of public humiliation that passes for entertainment. In this sense, Buyniski has traced the energetic economy of empire—how the few sustain their illusion of dominion by inducing spiritual exhaustion in the many.
Why does this matter? Because once a society begins to name the energetic dimension of its own enslavement, the spell weakens. To utter loosh in a political essay is to puncture the firewall of materialism that keeps citizens debating symptoms instead of systems. It invites readers to perceive that the problem is not only who controls government, but what feeds on human attention and emotion through that control. In metaphysical language, the parasite reveals itself through its hunger.
That Unz Review, a publication grounded in political heterodoxy rather than mysticism, would print this term is a sign of cultural evolution. The distance between geopolitics and gnosis is narrowing. When analysts begin acknowledging energetic realities, the conversation shifts from scandal to structure—from outrage to understanding. The human psyche starts to perceive that it has been living within a managed frequency field, one calibrated to generate despair, division, and dependence.
Buyniski may not have laid out a full metaphysical model, but she opened the door. Her essay performs the first act of naming, and naming has power. It turns what was occult—hidden—into the visible. The next step is to articulate the architecture behind the intuition: to show that “loosh harvesting” is not a fringe metaphor but the energetic counterpart of economic exploitation and psychological warfare.
Those who have mapped that structure call it the overlay—a self-sustaining code of control that feeds on polarity and emotional discharge. The antidote is not rebellion within the system but withdrawal of consent and energetic attention. When awareness replaces reaction, the loosh supply dwindles, and the overlay begins to collapse under its own starvation.
Buyniski’s choice of a single word therefore carries prophetic weight. It suggests that political truth and metaphysical truth are converging, that the walls between journalism, psychology, and esotericism are dissolving. In an age of revelation, even a word can be a portal.
Perhaps this is how awakening begins: not with new doctrines, but with familiar voices daring to name the unseen.
Women often call men weird well some women can be weird as well and one of them is Melania Trump. Baron definitely has her genes for weirdness, matter of fact The Orange Blob is the only one in the American Psycho Trump brood who APPEARS “normal.” BUT after allegations of giving Slick Willie a hummer, don’t know if I buy that one, but nothing would shock me at this point. JIZZlane appears to have the hots for Melania in that photo with Don Juan, ShlEpstein, and Melania looking like a vampire. I saw Mick Jagger was a guest, remember it was rumored years ago that Mick and David Bowie were caught in the act.
Cue: Dancing In The Streets by Mick Jagger and David Bowie (one of the gayest music videos ever)
Some people believe Epstein’s “suicide” was staged. Some of the inconsistencies in the narrative of his death make sense from this perspective. If they want to hide someone and create a new identity a faked death is always the best start.
“Epstein will kill orange man politically” People still jerking off to this unlikely outcome.
Looks like ShlEpstein or JIZZlane slipped Melania a lude.
Cue: Super Freak by Rick James
Well, there you go Guh-valtar: you have revealed (again!) that you don’t read carefully, at all. You have thus hoisted yourself with your own petard (again), in full public view.
Yet, you presume to guttersnipe from the sidelines of ignorance, and thus hoist yourself again.
Just stop. You are ignorant, and seem set to remain so. Until you resolve this, stay out of the deep water.
Yes, Virginia, elite Kike sexual exploitation of white girls is part of their religious upbringing. These young things are not worthy of better treatment for not having Jewish mothers.
Here’s more on Saint Chomsky
Yes.
Over the last two or three decades John Q. Public has registered one by one the sex trafficking scandals Ms. Buyniski enumerates in her article. But reviewing them like this in one immense omnium gatherium, must surely force him to realize their true significance.
They are not isolated phenomena. They are parts of one gigantic, destructive ‘campaign.’
Ms. Buyniski suggests that they are at the very heart of the Octupus’ strategy of world conquest. I agree with her.
I particularly agree with her emphasis on ‘ritual humiliation.’ The jewish owned media do not conceal it. They celebrate it. Witness President Joe ‘Aborter-in-Chief’ Biden kissing the feet of—as someone on TUR phrased it the other day—’some jewish sow’ who had brought ten chosen ones into the world.
“Spiritual nourishment…”
This is new. Ms. Buyniski suggests that there is a metaphysical dimension to the Octupus’ onslaught. She suggests that we are facing more than a this-worldly enemy.
Ms. Buyniski’s reference to ‘spiritual nourishment’ may be no more than a rhetorical flourish. I tend more to the literalist view of the recent commenter who wrote
We are constantly admonished not to ‘demonize’ our opponents, our ‘enemies.’
To this I say, “Sure. Okay. Consider me admonished. But what do we do if our enemies really are demons?”
Hey trollface, people, even rich people, don’t socialize all in the same circles (although, granted, their circles are both more exclusive and more international). Yet very different people from very different occupations (arts, politics, tech) gravitated towards the same parties of this guy who (at least in theory) was basically a Nobody. I mean, he was not famous himself, and no one knows how he made his supposed fortune. The conclusion is not hard to reach, he was a pimp that offered the best sex parties for the jet set, but at a price to pay later. Whether people knew the “price” is not clear, but I am fairly certain they knew very well, and they knew they were being recorded while “socializing” (sic) as well. I’m only surprised that they “socialized” with women, I’m sure a large part of them are gay and prefer boys or trans. Maybe that part is yet to surface.
“In election after election we are pressured to declare allegiance to one morally bankrupt criminal, simply because the other morally bankrupt criminal in the race might be even worse, thus becoming complicit in the election of a morally bankrupt criminal. ”
My allegiance is to the country in which I was born and the abiding documents that govern her existence. Allegiance to any elected official only applies to the policies that I support. Loyalty to a man – disappointing.
I may some respect for the executive in office, but allegiance to policies for which I voted the same to advance.
What’s the surprise? All three are Jewish, of course they hang out together.
Er… Who do you think is going to program that “neutral”, “democratic” Big Bot???
If your ‘old’ religion was so much better then why did it so feebly give way to this liberalism you claim has taken over?
Let the coping begin.
Not just moronic CZ suckbags. That accusation could rightfully be leveled at 95% of all politicians and clergy – plus corporate and institutional ‘leadership’. You can also toss in everyone that still votes.
I had never heard the word before, but I am quite sure that the idea of entities feeding on certain emotions, mostly negative emotions, is much more ancient. Devils feeding on pain and vice, etc. In the case of the “elites”, they probably see it as the source of their power. That’s why they keep doing it.
Jeffrey Epstein may be dead
Or he may still be alive, sipping margaritas whilst sunning himself at Mar A Lago.
Drawing contest: The heartthrob of “country music stars” that work for Prager U
The winner^
This article is another defeatist description of the problem
First; Big Parasite = fake Jews
Big Parasite is not the Irish or the Germans or the Mexicans or the WASPs or the Masons or even the Arabs, it’s the fake Jews
You got to call them out on this
Look who has all the money and who owns everything and who is the hated “Private Equity”, it’s the fake Jews of course
Most Americans don’t know this, although 10/7 has opened the eyes of millions more to who’s running the US by deception
How to fight them?
First, the foundation of their power must be discredited; the Jewish Press (mainstream media)
Discredit the Jewish Press by always calling it the Jewish Press, because it is true and people need to know this.
Then get others to do the same
And second; never vote for a fake Jew or someone they own to rule you.
Yes, it will take a mass movement
Let’s not forget all the male victims of the system, hundreds of thousands killed, crippled, brainwashed for the past hundred years into thinking they were involved in something noble. They never benefitted. It’s a hierarchy, those clawing or born into the upper strata exploiting and living off the rest of the population much like a cattle farmer lives off his herds. It’s a system of exploitation, from the bottom to the top. The Epstein girls are an example of how the system of exploitation is international. US wars abroad have left millions dead and as displaced refugees, but it’s out of sight out of mind for most in the US. The Epstein saga is a way station along the downward path towards Roman-style decadence. It’s society-wide, being able to see this in the profane and degraded public discourse in social media and everywhere the general public can put their two-cents in, including on this website.
Well boinking a 13-14 year old girl is borderline gay. Imagine some girl of 17 (Cue: I Saw Her Standing There by The Beatles) waiting to have sex with some wrinkly ass old fart like Dershowitz or Chomsky? Would she have to lube up? No normal 17 year old boy could get an erection with some 60 year old lady unless she aged like Raquel Welch. Remember when New England Patriots owner, another kike, Robert Kraft, was caught in some Chink Massage Parlor in Florida. You have all this money and you go to some massage parlor instead of hiring high end escorts to meet you at your home or hotel. These kikes are pretty stupid actually. Remember Pee Wee Herman aka Paul Reubens, he was caught jerking off in a porn theater in Florida as well. Damn, dumbass, this was back in the VCR days, rent a tape, go home and get in touch with the unemployed in private where you can’t be arrested. lol. Dumb kike.
Meh! Trumpenstein was selected because some of the brown pets (a.k.a. Democraps) that ‘the chosen’ inundated this cuntry with decided to, as per their nature, bite the kosher hand that fed them. Donny the Red Ass (just ask Bibi) will “stay the course” and be put out to the good goy pasture. The (((media))) will present the idiot citizenry with the usual Kabuki theater leading up to the mid-term selections when a ‘new’ band of Zio slime will take the reigns.
Sing along everyone: “Meet the new boss – same as the old boss”
“America” destroyed itself the moment they abandoned their professed “Christian” creed, including its absolute prohibitions of killing and theft, and betrayed their own “Constitution,” which not only nowhere permitted the armed and fraudulent taking of Native lands, but elevated Treaties to the status of “Supreme Law of The Land,” before proceeding to violate every treaty made with Native Nations here….all out of an insatiable greed for The Land and its Gifts.
Praise for this article, among commenters, is not at all misplaced. The essay itself falls woefully short, though, in its inadequate diagnosis of the actually very dire condition the all-American Condition is in, how it got there, and for how much longer it has gone on than the author would have us understand.
The Natural Fact is that the idolized world-wasting “civilization” disease.process itself, and not merely the depredations of those “chosen” by their Elohim Yahweh to spread it, has always been the actual cause of every “horror” laid-bare here, and of countless others the author candidly admits to being unaware-of. Anyhow, the terminal throes of the disease, now hard upon us all, is already annihilating everything it infects here in the Whole Free Wild Natural LivingLoving Arrangement of Earth and Sky….including the principal enablers theirownselfs.
Blaming “Jews” and their captive collaborators in every area of “civilized” activity, though, is simply too easy. None of this could ever have happened without the mostly willing cooperation of everyone among the muddled masses whose everyday beliefs and behavior mislead them to the insane conclusion that “everything has a price,” and by paying it one acquires a “license” to exploit and dispose-of anything or anybody for any purpose whatever….or for none at-all.
That single most common symptom of the deadly “self” sickness, with which virtually every domesticated Human is afflicted, is enough all by itself to account for the possibly near-total “self”-destruction being presently visited upon the “self”-designated subspecies called most-fittingly “homo sap.” So too is the unforgivable blasphemy of child sex slavery enough all by itself to drive that process to its immanent conclusion in ignominious obliteration of the perpetrators.
When that infamous roll is called “down under,” who’ll be there?
“The absence of a strong cultural taboo against child predation in many Jewish communities means that even if some amoral entity were to entrap Netanyahu himself in bed with a dead girl or a live boy, it’s unlikely that he would lose the support of diaspora Zionists.”
My shekels are on a live boy.
If the holocaust story is true, maybe the Nazis were justified.
AND NEARLY ALL OF THOSE SOLDIERS DRAFTED WERE POOR AND WORKING CLASS. Officers? Hell, they are like politicians, especially nowadays. And it is still only the poor and working class who voluntarily join to fight Wars For Kikes. How anyone can be so stupid or naive in 2025 is beyond me, I could see how our kikesucker politicians and kikes fooled people in both World Wars and Korea and Vietnam, maybe even the Gulf War, but (((911))) and what has followed?
NO WHITE PERSON NEEDS TO FIGHT FOR A NATION THAT HATES THEM.
Just ask General Bone Spurs.
Everyone OWES Hitler and Germany an apology.
Yours is a brilliant comment on a brilliant article. Each is among the best of its kind I have seen at the Unz Review.
https://youtu.be/dBkosoJZzs8
I’m curious why…
• It is blaming “us all” for the actions of American shabbos goim, who are willingly mutiating babies’ genitals.
• It spews nazi nazi nazi just like antifa propaganda.
This piece is actually of very poor quality.
Epstein is not dead, his death was faked and Trumps former Attorney General Bill Barr managed the whole deal, Epstein is alive and in Israel.
I have to be honest here. It’s an ugly thought and I don’t endorse the tactic, but it’s always surprised me that NO ONE being blackmailed exercised “The Murder Option”. Meaning that I’m surprised that not even one of the victims of Blackmail by Epstein and others never tried-or succeeded- in murdering Epstein and his kind. Murder is the “traditional” response to Blackmail. Blackmail is the “gift” that keeps making demands and the only way to stop Blackmail is to kill the Blackmailer(s).
Americans themselves are guilty of being into all this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_circumcision#Over_80%
and still blaming “bad bad Nazi” (who actually were a good guys)
While they got a president installed by (((Adelson))) criminal family after a president installed by (((Pritzker))) criminal family…
Mike Benz is not popular enough. I have seen him interviewed by Tucker Carlson and some others and he seems to know a lot, and is capable of explaining things rather well.
He claims to have cracked a big nut in the Epstein story. This is the description of very recent video he made:
This video is chaotic live stream and Mike is quite emotional, likely because he is so excited by what he is discovering.
Link to video under the MORE tag:
Video Link
Jan 3, 2024 “Children are being SOLD right in front of our eyes here in the United States” WHISTLEBLOWER reveals
The united states is the largest trafficker of children in the world. Children that are illegally kidnapped and brought across the US Mexico border are then sold off to wealthy Americans… used as sex slaves and worse… if you can imagine anything worse… it’s happening and the corporate media is too scared to touch the story.
Video Link
I suppose Helen of Destroy’s title is taken from this song by the Dead Kennedys. The name of the band is a propos, I am sure JFK and all the other Kennedys eons ago also had similar sex parties. It’s been happening for a while…
p.s. Not that it matters, but I just found out in Wiki that Jello Biafra was at least 1/8 Jewish.
Can you believe (((these kike predators))) have the chutzpah to continue to use the victim card!? The Germans just woke up one day and all of a sudden out of nowhere they hated these (((“people.”)))
Look how Germany prospered the first 5 years under Hitler. These kikes become millionaires and billionaires through theft, extortion, exploitation, blackmail, threats, etc. It has nothing to do with brains, talent or work ethic. Hell, dago John Gotti wasn’t a rocket scientist or talented in anything other than extortion and being a mob boss. Think the Italian mob only on a global scale. Hitler turned Germany around in only 5 years, that shows how much these parasitic kikes were exploiting the German people.
Gaza is a Hellscape, with every crime known to the Devil committed, and the perpetrators joyfully celebrating their every crime on video, but, in Arsetralia, it is non-existent. To mention it or even dare criticise it is now criminal.
Decades of careful selection for the worst human types in politics and the MSM has delivered an abomination where ONE murdered Jewish child FAR outweighs tens of thousands of slaughtered and maimed Gazan children. Moreover, if you dare to mention the Zionazi blood-bath, the resulting hatred and rage long ago passed the level of frenzy.
Gene Hackman has a scene in one of his films in which he is mature, and a young woman likes him, and throws herself at him. He declines. Another character asks Hackman, How do you resist her? Hackman replies: Before we could have a conversation about anything, I would have to fill her in on it first. Sounds exactly right. I just don’t understand the logic or appeal of the non-Hackman approach. It is clearly boring, risky, criminal, and time-consuming. There are so many other ways these guys could proceed that would basically scratch their itch. I just don’t get it. I guess I would make a bad shrink.
Do you know of the ‘wetiko’ concept? ‘Subdue the Earth’, said the Judaic Godfather, and here we are.
You cannot take away Chomsky’s achievements in documenting The Empire’s crimes, no matter how much you hate Jews.
What makes you think they didn’t? Epstein’s “suicide” could have been another addition to Bill and Killary’s long list.
It actually was yet another jew expulsion.
When few yids died in their compact settlement camps provided by German government it was mainly because typhus and sometimes because malnutrition at late war period.
Holohoax was invented little bit later, you will not find any mentions of poor exterminated yids in memoirs of generals who should indeed witnessing that.
‘While the media has lazily followed Alan Dershowitz’s lead in characterizing Epstein’s victims as trailer-trash juvenile delinquents barely on the wrong side of the age of consent, Epstein and his associates were in fact very picky about their prey, spending at least as much time strategizing the ruination of the flower of gentile femininity (the absence of Jewish girls from the “sisterhood,” confirmed by Maria Farmer and also notable among the victims of producer Harvey Weinstein, is notable given the ethnic-supremacist ideology of the parasite class) as they did on compromising VIPs — though admittedly it wasn’t rocket science getting a prince or a president to drop his zipper in the presence of underage beauties. They wanted “white girls” who appeared “prepubescent” and demure, according to survivor Courtney Wild, while another report specified their ideal type as “nymphishly thin, with no tattoos.” Maxwell insisted the girls should be “as young as possible.” Not only were they required to be virginal and disease-free (on pain of death), but they were forbidden from drinking, smoking, and using drugs and put on strict diets if they started to gain weight. Academic achievement and artistic talent were a bonus. Youth and beauty were important, but it was purity and innocence they were targeting’
Curious that this standard ov elite beauty isn’t the one you get from their simian actress darkies of Hollywood bs.
The claim of a “Big Parasite’s takeover of the internet” is not a recognized concept and appears to be a conspiracy theory, often linked to broader, unproven allegations. While Commtouch (later CYREN) was an email security company and worked with various tech firms, there is no credible public information to support the claim that it is a “ubiquitous and hidden part of email systems used by Google and Microsoft” to facilitate a “takeover”. Claims about the distribution of bugged software for mass spying is also an unproven conspiracy theory.
Thank you unz.com for hosting Helen Buyniski. This article is as good as it gets. Incontrovertible analysis, stellar prose.
I will read everything you publish that bears the Helen Buyniski byline.
Yeah, they sound like Christian White Nationalists in their own sexual preferences but want to sell the opposite to the masses. Check out Epstein’s “sex slave and personal pilot.” She looks like a young Pussy Galore:
https://www.theeducationisthub.com/nadia-marcinko/
She has curiously gone missing right after the case was reopened.
Just in: “Deeply disturbing” scenes from the White House Chanukah Party.
Despite MAGA plummeting in popularity because it is a front for MIGA, Trump actively boasts that Miriam Adelson gave his campaign $250 million because she and her husband love …wait for it…Israel. Not the US. The Demonrats are no different. The issue of the day is how long are Americans going to tolerate being controlled and bled dry by Israel?
https://youtube.com/shorts/WKVxtI8j3Rc?si=20iE3aeDS94IyFAh
Chutzpah!
Zionists bribe and blackmail US politicians to fund Palestinian genocide and Greater Israel and then dismiss objections as bigotry! Anyone who criticizes Israel will not find employment.
This is what happened in the USSR. Zionism and Communism are two sides of the same Masonic Jewish (satanist) coin.
https://www.henrymakow.com/
Why is Mr. Crowley not commenting on this thread? He should be knowledgeable on the topic at hand.
These perverts are all probably hung like hamsters that is why they wanted petite virgins. They probably also were sadistic freaks who wanted to dominate GIRLS. Seriously no man really wants a whore but who in the hell wants to have sex with a young girl or virgin.
IF this were a just world, JIZZlane would be doing hard time in a maximum security MALE prison and ShlEpstein would be caged with a 500lb silverback who was extremely horny. Whispering Bill would share a cell with 2 nigra booty bandits ( remember that Bill loved Blacks so much he was identified as our “first Black president.) Play that 🎷 white boy.
Cue: Maybe I’m A Fool by Eddie Money 💴
Hold your horses.
I do not participate in the professional wrestling show. Why should anybody?
Especially irish people know what animal scum british and american imperialist terrorists have always been and what coward word play they have always played. American and british are always coward terrorists that flip definition of words, just like so called woke people and israeli. They are afraid to open and honest confrontations. Instead they hide behind the shadows and keep attacking cowardly and covertly with any means necessary to reach their goals. This is the secret of american and british, how they have invaded and are still keeping control to this day, blackmailing with even pedophilia material and running drug trade of the world. And they are openly proud to do exactly that. Besides hundreds of years of shared family unions and shared goals, american, british and many jews have become genetically close to each other and share the same stereotypical jewish mind of some extremist jews, like israeli, the Rothchilds, Ellison, Kutchers etc.
Irish havent surrendered to american and british terrorists to this day.
You should know all sources were redacted.
Indeed
It’s all very sad and amusing.
It’s pretty clear you haven’t done this, at least not properly if you think that’s what Christianity is. The passages you quote have been cherry-picked out of context to support your aggrieved position. They are obviously passages written under the old covenant of Moses (Moses is understood as the primary author of Deuteronomy) which serious Christians read with great sadness and sorrow. Sadness and sorrow because they’re examples of how men under the the Law of Moses could never enter into God’s presence – i.e. climb Mt Zion. Don’t ignore the OT passages that teach precisely how and why the Israelite religion failed, and the 8,000 NT verses that describe what Christianity is actually about.
The thing to understand about the OT is that it wasn’t just about encouraging the chronically disobedient Israelites with promises of great rewards if they follow God’s commands, but also warnings of devastating consequences for NOT following them, which they never did as a nation and have suffered the penalty for it. It was the carrot and stick approach used by parents the world over.
Why not quote the Bible passages that talk about both the carrot AND the stick?
Deut 28:1-2 and 28:15, for example:
“Now it shall come to pass, if you diligently obey the voice of your God, to observe carefully all His commandments which I command you today, that the LORD your God will set you high above all the nations of the earth.” Deut 28:1-2
“But it shall come to pass, if you do not obey the voice of the LORD your God, to observe carefully all His commandments and His statutes which I command you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:” Deut 28:15
That’s the truth of the Israeli curse in a nutshell.
Christian Zionists are barking up the wrong tree because they, too, don’t study the Bible properly. They ignore that fact that modern Israel is NOT the Israel of the Bible, or that Zionism under Mosaic Law was explicitly rejected. Zion is a spiritual concept that can only be properly understood in terms of having been fulfilled in Christ.
Don’t reject Christianity because of the misguided opinions of Christian Zionists. That’s throwing the baby out with the baptism water. Christian Zionists believe this has something to do with the modern State of Israel and its global crime syndicate. They’re basically ignorant fools that are easily led by the objects of their folly.
Genuine Christianity rejects Jewish Zionism as having come from the old covenant of Moses which has been completely superseded by the new covenant in Christ. There’s a qualitative and crucial difference here that shouldn’t be overlooked, as it completely reverses the world the Israeli Jews are hell-bent on creating for us. In spiritual terms, Christianity is the only way to reverse it.
A more accurate name for Jewish and Christian Zionism would be Sinai-ism, as that’s the hellish mountain of fire they’re camped around. Mt Zion the actual spiritual place is off in the distance, separated by a deep dark crevasse that has one bridge and one only: Christ, and Christ alone.
Without crossing that bridge, all this sordid criminality and suffering can only but continue.
Ron Unz is smarter than most of us.
Ron, do you see a way out of the destructive grip the Jewish oligarchy has on the US and UK?
A fundamental part of the problem is the Federal Reserve, the Bank of England and fractional-reserve banking – but it’s much broader and deeper than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard
https://www.amazon.com/Power-Money-Governments-Create-Prosper/dp/1637743157
While most citizens have full stomachs, a revolution is unlikely.
Merry Christmas
The apple was not apocrypha. It was a cover story because the truth is too powerful for you normies. What actually happened was Isaac was sleeping and on the bed head board above him was a glass which was almost filled with water. His cat was experimenting on the mass-force configuration and pushed the glass soon to be emptying of water onto the head of the man. Isaac Newton’s cat was the deserving but not credited source of the historic accomplishment.
As for the girls the universe has something called the Law of Supply and Demand. Did you ever hear that nature must be obeyed in order to be commanded? That also is stupid. Man cannot command nature, ever.
They say the main objective of Satan is the corruption of innocence. Whether you believe that or not, it’s hard to look at these people and not think that’s what they believe.
Genuine Christianity rejects Jewish Zionism as having come from the old covenant of Moses which has been completely superseded by the new covenant in Christ.
Christians with doctorates in theology can’t agree on which parts of the OT should be part of doctrine. Christian pastors and priests will state that passage XYZ doesn’t need to be followed because of the new covenant and then proceed to quote the OT for something they don’t like such as tattoos or gambling. Shrimp is ok but gambling is not. Condemn homosexuality based on the OT but ignore punishments for adulterous women. Pick and choose the Old Testament based on your political beliefs.
So spare us the Genuine Christian or True Christian arguments.
You don’t know and Christians do not agree.
Christian Biblical authority often amounts to who is speaking in church that day.
Interesting.
I wonder, exactly, how much Hitler’s ridding the German financial, political, and other key institution of Jews had to do with Germany’s economic miracle. But I can’t find any information on that, maybe Ron Unz has it buried somewhere in one of his American Pravda articles.
What I can find information on is that Hitler’s chief economist/banker used “Proof of Work” (Labor-backed Bonds”) to get Germany’s economic miracle – family-supporting jobs for all working-age German men – going, then flourishing. Hitler’s turning ’round the German economy as quickly as he did was the envy of the world; the man had no qualms in breaking a few eggs in order to make an omelet.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-hitler-used-proofofwork-turn-around-germanys-economy-johnraj
To put it in perspective….Epstein’s traffic was miniscule compared to the numbers that Mayorkas enabled with his open borders jewing, where surely many THOUSANDS of underage women were/are being forced into prostitution by the cartels.
You are a lying silly POS.
There is ZERO evidence that Trump was fucking children.
Zero.
If there WAS any such evidence, Obama and Biden and crew would surely have released it LONG AGO.
They didn’t need to blackmail Trump….they just gave him a few hundred million to do the bidding of Israel.
The entire “Trump rapes children” thing is just the usual tiresome leftist BULLSHIT.
By the way, I didn’t vote for Trump this time around as I lost faith in him long ago.
Ryan Dawson has spoken at length regarding the fact that most men have no interest in having sex with children, and that money and money laundering is really the heart of the matter.
“Here” our domesticated Human Relations are, indeed, and it was in precisely the foolish pursuit of that insane instruction which is the exact “how” of their getting “here.” Yet the futile and feckless exercise continues apace….but not for much longer.
Like any, particularly any wasting-disease process, the “civilization” disease has its specific course to run, on The Way to its own “self”-termination. This latest virulent outbreak here in our Whole Free Wild Natural LivingLoving Arrangement is already deep into its own final throes.
Us surviving Free Wild Natural Peoples of every Kind are The Medicine specific to the disease process itself. It is even now being administered, which might arrest the “progress” of the disease somewhat short of the total devastation that is its usual Bitter End state. We are all going to see….that being the only Way to know.
And of course all Jewish owned businesses were boycotted.
Yep. I think you nailed it. The Synagogue Of Satan is real indeed.
Look at that little pedophile Roman Polanski.
So Pee Wee Herman is a Jewish pervert/weirdo. Who coulda guessed?
I wonder, exactly, how much Hitler’s ridding the German financial, political, and other key institution of Jews had to do with Germany’s economic miracle. But I can’t find any information on that, maybe Ron Unz has it buried somewhere in one of his American Pravda articles.
I can tell you that he ignored the “minimal government” conservatives of his time and invested heavily in public infrastructure.
In the early years the Nazis had a strong belief that every man should be able to get a job and the government was needed to supplement the private sector. Hitler did not believe in leaving unemployment to the capitalism gods.
Such beliefs are heresy to modern conservatives and they do not like the subject of Germany’s economic gains under Hitler.
It is also a taboo to discuss how African nations with “minimal government” did not develop rocket based weapons. According to conservative/libertarian theory that should have happened a hundreds of years before the Nazis. Ethiopia was “free market” and predated Germany.
Helen Buyniski has swallowed whole the feminist male hate ideology. Those adolescent school girls knew exactly what was going on in their activities and reaping lucre with Epstein and his cronies. As young women, they are now raking millions. For an education in adolescent school girls, one should read Carrie and The Pearl, not the John Steinbeck book. They were harems for the Anglo and Jewish ruling classes who have been exposed.
But Trump had to know something. Any decent man, especially a father with a daughter would have tried their damndest to make sure ShlEpstein and JIZZlane were locked away for a long time. Trump at least had a large soapbox and money to go after these creeps. I can’t see Trump having sex with a 13 year old or giving a hummer to Bill, but I wouldn’t put it past him to have sex with a mature 16-17 year old which given Trump’s age is creepy enough. Trump has surrounded himself with kikes all his life. Birds of a feather flock together. “Wishing JIZZlane well” was disgusting as well. Wishing that hag “well?” Fuck that hag. What if JIZZlane had pimped out Trump’s daughter. JIZZlane calling those girls “trash?” Now that is rich.
“They also serve who only stand and wait,”
but the trick is knowing when the
wait is over.
But Trump had to know something. Any decent man, especially a father with a daughter would have tried their damndest to make sure ShlEpstein and JIZZlane were locked away for a long time.
I can’t stand looking at a picture of an Epstein.
Trump was pals with him and the two took a 17 year old to casino numerous times.
I can’t see Trump having sex with a 13 year old or giving a hummer to Bill, but I wouldn’t put it past him to have sex with a mature 16-17 year old which given Trump’s age is creepy enough.
Clinton got rid of his competition for governor by having a PI dig up dirt on what everyone thought was a straight and normal candidate. Turned out his competition had a homosexual encounter when high on cocaine. Clinton presented him with the evidence and he dropped out.
The point is that I would not put anything past these slimeballs.
I don’t believe Trump is gay or is attracted to men. But it is entirely possible he gave a blowjob at a party as a one time thing. Not normal straight guy behavior but neither is hanging around a 17 year old and a world class sleezeball at a casino.
We also know that some files have not been released. Which means it most likely gets worse for Trump. I’m not sure if we will ever see all of the files. Trump pretended to release all of the MLK files and the conservative establishment went along with it.
Helen Buyinthatepsteindied
You know, your fukking scenario isn’t too far fetched. That thug faced Ellison is one of the richest people on earth. He could hire thousands of people to go after TuckerCarlson, Owens, Fuentes etc., and he wouldn’t feel a pinch in his wallet.
And, just judging Ellison’s soul from his face, hiring ‘influenceers’ would be the least that Satanist would do.
Sworn Statement by Epstein, Trump teen victim: “Hamsters, are you serious?
Both were so tiny I asked them to ring a bell when they finished.”
Thanks for the studious reply. I reject Christ insanity on my own judgment. There’s no god like the one described in the Bible. God didn’t chose one tribe and god doesn’t judge us in the end. He doesn’t study us with a microscope and then decide to punish us when his laws are broken. Deut 28:15 is just more tribal superstition that you will get punished if you do not follow some rule. There’s the law of social justice called if you screw with others they may screw you back. Or it is commonly said ‘what goes around comes around’. Israel refuses to act with common decency amongst nations and thus will earn it’s just desserts.
Here’s the deal, if you drop an anvil on your foot it is going to hurt. No god required, the law of gravity combined with a heavy weight and the fragile foot. Likewise, whatever happens to Israel is not because god judges it, it will be when men take action against it. If Israel antagonizes it’s neighbors, bombs and kills them, then those peoples/nations retaliate, it will be because of what they did not some godly retribution. If the Palestinians are unable to defend themselves, they can be wiped out and no god will stop it. If Israel attacks Iran again they may get pummeled worse than last time. No god is in the equation. Israel can (and will) be wiped out for what they are doing. No god cares in the least.
Many Christians believe Israel is getting supernatural protection. This is a grave mistake in understanding and judgment. Israel is getting billions of free military hardware from the advanced superstate ZOGUSA, not god. What the Christians are doing is playing a sick little game of make believe, they are lobbying for the US Congress to keep shoveling money and weapons to Israel, then saying Israel has divine protection. There is no “divine” action in this at all. Divine protection is the disease in the collective Christian minds, they have a belief about Israel and are politically active to make that belief manifest. That is why I criticize all Christians, the Zio-ones who are giving Israel material and moral support and the non-Zionist Christians who let them get away with it.
I believe that to me more Bible rubbish. There is no god making a covenant with a chosen tribe – that is plain as day tribal propaganda that god chose one tribe – and only a fool believes it. Moses never existed, there was no Exodus, no god made no covenant. There is no old covenant and no new covenant. None of these basic ideas in the OT are valid, the Holy Bible is fiction, those events never happened, and it is a huge mistake to believe them true or historical.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/leading-archaeologist-says-old-testament-stories-are-fiction-1500431.html
I stand by my assertion that Judeo-Christianity is a huge world-wide death cult. They are manifesting the ‘end times’ because of their beliefs and faith. The more they kill, the more they believe, the tragedy in the Middle East has become a self fulfilling prophecy by believing then acting out Bible verse. All Jews and all Christians are to blame. Regardless of the Zionist political movement, to be a Jew or Christian you must believe in Abraham as the father of your faith – and Abraham never existed.
Sadists are created by being treated sadistically as children. Trauma is a key ingredient in the MK-Ultra method of mind control. It makes them compliant, and lose empathy.
Buyniski links to an article on child rape as a Jewish ritual.
The Child-Rape Assembly Line
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qbe8bp/the-child-rape-assembly-line-0000141-v20n11
Child rape as a Jewish ritual would explain a lot. It would explain the widespread sadism of Israeli soldiers. It would explain the sadistic, heartless personalities of Bibi Netanyahu, Ben Gvir, Jared Kushner, and many others. It would explain the widespread predatory business practices.
When Ehud Barak was savagely raping Virginia Giuffre he was probably venting buried rage at his own tormentor. Perhaps he was subconsciously attacking and taking revenge on a rabbi that had raped him as a child.
It’s not just the little boys who are ritually raped. Little girls are fair game when they reach the age of three. So an insane, sociopathic conversation between Bari Weiss and Ben Shapiro may be a conversation between childhood rape victims.
Jeffrey Epstein modeled his island off of Saudi arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi (Iran-Contra), who maintained a harem in his private compound.
Side fact: Donald Trump acquired Khashoggi’s yacht.
Helene forgot to mention primitive Muslim Shqiptars aka Albanians aka Kosovars and their sex trafficking rings in the Occupied Serbia’s Province of Kosovo post 1999 “liberation” – brought to you by Bill Clinton, Madeline Albright and Wesley Clark! [1][2]
Of course, aside from terrorism [4] and kidnapping and sex trafficking [1][2], Albanian “victims” are also into human organs trafficking [3] extracted from kidnapped Serb civilians in 1999 taken to Albania for extraction!
P.S. Many fall for the propaganda and use the term ‘Kosovo War’, which was concocted to a) hide the fact that a sovereign country, Serbia, was illegally attacked and not only its Kosovo Province, and b) to create an impression that Province of Serbia called Kosovo was somehow something separate, which legally is not so even today, although they are still working hard on that. In a similar manner, Albanian separatists are now calling themselves Kosovars in order to hide the fact that they killed and expelled close to all non-Albanians upon “liberation” i.e. occupation of Serbia’s Holy Land called Kosovo by NATO.
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Excerpt from [2]: As early as 2004, Amnesty International reported that underage girls were being kidnapped, tortured, and forced into prostitution in Kosovo with UN and NATO personnel driving demand. The UN’s department of peacekeeping in New York acknowledged at that time that “peacekeepers have come to be seen as part of the problem in trafficking rather than the solution”. Until the 2000s, the UN did not keep detailed statistics concerning such incidents. In 2015, the UN started disclosing more figures about thousands of allegations of forced sex with UN soldiers in exchange for material aid, of which hundreds involved minors.
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Excerpt from [1]: Amnesty International UK Director Kate Allen is quoted as saying “Women and girls as young as 11 are being sold into sexual slavery in Kosovo and international peacekeepers are not only failing to stop it they are actively fuelling this despicable trade by themselves paying for sex from trafficked women.”
Excerpt from [1]: Head of the Mitrovica based International Press Centre, Rade Negojevic, claimed Kosovo had become the world’s biggest brothel since the arrival of the international peacekeepers.
Excerpt from [1]: Kosovo is mostly a destination ( but also a source) for women and children subjected to sex trafficking. Most victims are internally trafficked for sexual exploitation. Traffickers recruit victims through false promises of marriage or employment offers in cafes, night-clubs, and restaurants. Many prostitutes, especially from foreign countries also come voluntarily to prostitute in Kosovo. Most sex trafficking victims in Kosovo are girls, with criminal groups which also force women or bring women from Moldova, Romania, Serbia, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Albania and other European countries ( such as Russia) into prostitution. Women and girls are subjected to sex trafficking in private homes and apartments, night-clubs, and massage parlors. Children used as dancers and escorts are vulnerable to sex trafficking.
Excerpt from [1]: Traffickers subject Kosovo citizens that belong to minorities to forced prostitution throughout Europe. Economically marginalized Roma, Ashkali, and Egyptians communities are vulnerable and used for sex trafficking. Government corruption creates an environment that enables some trafficking crimes. Several police officers, labor ministry employees, and other government officials have been charged with or convicted of trafficking crimes.
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[1] Forced Prostitution & Trafficking in [Occupied] Kosovo – Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Kosovo
[2] Sexual abuse by UN peacekeepers [including Occupied Kosovo] – Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_abuse_by_UN_peacekeepers
[3] Prosecutors Renew Hunt for Kosovo Organ Traffickers | Balkan Insight
As the EU rule of law mission in Kosovo stages a new organ-trafficking investigation, prosecutor Jonathan Ratel discusses the recent Medicus clinic convictions and the suspects who remain at large.
https://balkaninsight.com/2013/05/07/prosecutors-renew-hunt-for-kosovo-organ-traffickers
[4] H.R.2203 – 114th Congress (2015-2016): To remove the Kosovo Liberation Army from treatment as a terrorist organization, and for other purposes. | Congress.gov | Library of Congress:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/2203?s=1&r=49
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[5] Kosovo War at 25: Blair’s secret invasion plot to ‘topple Milosevic’ revealed | 2024-03
https://thegrayzone.com/2024/03/24/kosovo-war-blairs-secret-invasion-plot-milosevic/
[6] The “Kosovo War” 25 Years Ago – Swiss Policy Research
https://swprs.org/the-kosovo-war-25-years-ago/
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[7] [Milosevic] Murder at The Hague? (ICTY) | Neil Clark | 2006-03
https://neilclark66.blogspot.com/2006/03/murder-at-hague_12.html
[8] Milosevic Exonerated by the ICTY, as the NATO War Machine Moves on – The War on Yugoslavia (Serbia & Montenegro) – Global Research | 2016-08
https://www.globalresearch.ca/milosevic-exonerated-as-the-nato-war-machine-moves-on/5539411
[9] The Exoneration of Milosevic: the ICTY’s Surprise Ruling | CounterPunch | 2016-08
https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/01/the-exoneration-of-milosevic-the-ictys-surprise-ruling/
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Thanks for your report.
Australia is still solidly under the thumb of the Jewish (aka “British”) Empire headquartered in City of London banks. Being off in the outback, Australia is the ideal test ground for the the next generation of their tyrannical tools.
Building on my previous commentary, I want to clarify the one detail that shifts this discussion from “another intelligence-adjacent scandal” into something that feels like a genuine diagnostic of the deeper machine: the author’s deliberate use of the word “loosh.” That term doesn’t naturally appear in standard political analysis, even in the more skeptical corners of alternative media. It belongs to a metaphysical vocabulary that describes an energetic economy—an extraction model in which human emotion, especially trauma-saturated emotion, becomes a form of fuel. Whether one interprets loosh literally or as a compressed metaphor for attention, vitality, despair, and psychic fragmentation, the implication is the same: the system is not merely managing populations through ideology and policy, but through engineered inner states. And once you start looking at modern power through that lens, the Epstein network stops looking like an outlier and starts looking like a particularly visible “port” into a much larger architecture.
The mainstream framing of operations like Epstein’s tends to stop at kompromat. That is understandable because kompromat is legible within the materialist model: sex, secrets, leverage, control. It is the language of power as transaction. But even in that limited frame, what remains unexplained is the extravagance and ritualization of it all—the theatrical staging, the symbolic environments, the sense that the degradation itself is being curated rather than merely indulged. In other words, the blackmail explanation is necessary but not sufficient. It explains the mechanism of obedience; it doesn’t fully explain the insistence on desecration, humiliation, and inversion as recurring motifs. Those motifs become coherent when we consider the possibility that trauma is not a regrettable byproduct of the operation but one of its intended outputs.
This is where the idea of loosh becomes more than a provocative term. Trauma is not just pain. It is fragmentation. It is the breaking of internal continuity—the splitting of psyche, conscience, and will. Anyone who has worked closely with trauma (clinically or personally) understands that its most devastating effect isn’t the memory of an event; it’s the way it alters the person’s inner geometry. It collapses the sense of sovereignty. It introduces shame as a permanent resident. It makes the nervous system easy to program through fear and craving. When you scale that to the elite level, the principle doesn’t change—only the stakes do. If you can induce deep compromise in a powerful individual, you don’t merely gain “leverage.” You gain an enforcer who cannot return to innocence, because returning would require facing what they did, what they allowed, and what they became. That is the true lock. Blackmail is the outer lock; shame is the inner lock.
So the more precise claim isn’t simply “they harvest loosh.” It’s that certain operations appear designed to produce a repeatable sequence: seduce the target into transgression, bind them to secrecy, escalate the transgression into moral injury, and then convert that moral injury into obedience. The target becomes usable not only because of fear of exposure, but because their internal coherence is damaged. Their conscience becomes negotiable. Their perception becomes adjustable. Their identity becomes dependent on the system that can both punish and protect them. At that point, you no longer need to threaten them constantly; you have built the threat into their nervous system. They police themselves. They defend the system instinctively. They become “realists,” “pragmatists,” and “adults,” meaning: people who can no longer afford truth.
In that light, the Epstein operation reads less like a lone monstrosity and more like a concentrated example of an ancient pattern: initiation through inversion. Many societies have initiation rites, but not all initiations point toward integration. Some initiate you into fracture. Inversion-initiation doesn’t elevate the soul; it converts the person into a node. It makes them complicit in the very thing that should revolt them, and then uses that complicity as the tether. This is why the island (and similar controlled environments) matters symbolically. The isolation is not just logistical; it creates a sealed chamber in which an alternative moral universe is established, where normal ethical constraints are inverted and the participant is trained to live under the new rules. In that chamber, innocence is not merely violated; it is mocked. That mockery is the signature. It’s the ritualistic aspect: the deliberate reversal of what should be sacred. And once a person participates in that reversal—especially under the promise of protection, status, and secrecy—something fundamental changes. They’ve crossed a threshold. They can no longer inhabit the same inner reality as someone who didn’t cross it.
This is why it’s plausible that many participants were not “initiated” in the full sense. Some will always be driven by appetite, vanity, or opportunism. They stumble into the machine for the obvious rewards. But the structure itself appears to have layers, and the deeper layers are rarely accidental. Even in ordinary institutions, there’s a difference between those who enjoy the perks and those who design the pipeline. The latter aren’t merely indulging; they are engineering. If the term loosh is being used openly, it suggests someone, somewhere in the discourse is beginning to acknowledge that the pipeline’s product is not only obedience but energy—human vitality redirected into fear, shame, obsession, and despair. That is what I mean when I say this may be a first crossover. It’s not that everyone at Unz has suddenly become metaphysical. It’s that the materialist firewall is thinning. A word like “loosh” is a crack in the lexicon, and cracks in the lexicon usually precede cracks in the narrative.
There is also a broader context here: the modern system’s reliance on humiliation rituals has increased, not decreased, in the era of total connectivity. The political spectacle has become more absurd. The media has become more openly manipulative. Cultural products increasingly glorify conflict, domination, and desecration. Public language grows cruder. Institutional trust collapses, yet the machine persists. This looks irrational until you consider that loosh extraction does not require coherent governance. It requires emotional turbulence. It requires division, outrage cycles, fear cycles, and moral disorientation. In that sense, the system’s apparent incompetence can be a feature. A chaotic environment destabilizes the human field and makes people easier to program. They seek safety and certainty. They cling to tribal identities. They outsource conscience to authority. They accept the unacceptable because they are exhausted. Exhaustion is a form of consent.
This is also why the Epstein case remains such a unique rupture. It exposes, in a single visible pattern, the overlap between elite indulgence, intelligence protection, ritualistic inversion, and institutional non-accountability. Even if a person refuses the metaphysical layer entirely, they are still forced to confront the eerie fact that a network can exist at that level, operate with that degree of protection, and persist across administrations, agencies, and media cycles without being cleanly dismantled. That alone implies a deeper architecture than “corruption” as normally understood. And when you add the loosh frame—not as dogma, but as a model for why humiliation and trauma recur—things begin to align with disturbing precision.
Now, the most important question is not “who exactly runs it,” because that question tends to collapse into factional blame games that the machine can easily redirect. The more useful question is: what does this architecture do to the human soul, and how does one stop feeding it? If the control system feeds on fragmentation, the counter-signal is integration. If it feeds on shame, the counter-signal is inner truth without performative confession. If it feeds on fear, the counter-signal is nervous-system sovereignty. If it feeds on outrage, the counter-signal is disciplined attention. This is why I keep returning to non-participation—not as passivity, but as energetic refusal. The machine cannot harvest what you do not generate. It can provoke, bait, shame, and terrorize—but the moment you recognize the extraction dynamic, you can begin to deprive it of the output it wants. That is not naive optimism. It is mechanics.
And that may be the subtext of why “loosh” appearing in print matters. It’s a sign that some writers are starting to sense what many readers already feel: that the real battleground is internal. Politics is one surface expression of a deeper war over human coherence. Networks like Epstein’s represent the extreme end of that war—the engineered destruction of innocence as a tool for controlling the powerful and, through them, the world. If that is even partially true, then the correct response is not merely to demand prosecutions (though justice matters); it is to recognize that the system is sustained by a harvestable human field. The first step in dismantling such a system is naming its fuel. “Loosh” is the name. Once named, it can be starved.
So as a follow-up, I’ll say it plainly: the most dangerous aspect of these networks is not what they did, as horrific as it is. It’s what they build in the aftermath—an elite class whose inner life has been compromised into compliance, and a public class kept in a perpetual state of emotional discharge. That’s the two-tier engine. If Buyniski’s use of “loosh” signals that this recognition is entering the discourse, we may indeed be looking at a foreshadowing: more writers will begin pointing toward the metaphysical substrate because the materialist explanations, while accurate at one layer, no longer explain the total pattern. When a system becomes too grotesque to justify with ordinary language, new language appears. Sometimes that language is the first sign the curtain is starting to move.
It’s getting old.
Pee Wee had long hair and a goatee for his 1991 mug shot. Let’s be honest masturbation is normal but you should know better than to do it in a porn theater. Dude should have rented a tape, incognito of course, go outside, make a quick dash to his car and hope no one he knows sees him. lol. Not exactly the crime of the century but I remember when it happened it was looped for a minute or two in the Tampa Bay Area since it happened in Sarasota.
Yes, too many photos out there for Trump to pretend he dindu nuffin. At the very least he KNEW what was going on and he chose to remain quiet. Trump’s name has carried weight for well over 40 years, his speaking out wouldn’t have been ignored.
no this is totally the gayest of gay music videos
Jailhouse Rock has some gross lines but I’m with Trinity on this one.
Dancing in the Street is not only completely gay but very weird in that no one else is around and takes place at night. The lyric says to “grab a girl” and Jagger/Bowie have no girls in the video and touch noses. What the frigidity fudge.
Ok faggot. Now tell us about muh climate change. Chomsky is another midwit fraudster like you.
Same to you asshole. THE PROOF IS TRUMP BLOCKING THE FILES.
Who is this ‘they’ you speak of? No serious Christian I’ve ever met believes they are ‘manifesting the end times’. Again, you’re using Christian Zionism as the basis of your argument.
But, since you’re a committed unbeliever, there’s little I can say that will change your mind about your unbelief. Only God is able to do that. The question I’ll leave you with is: how do you as an unbeliever propose to deal with the evil Zionist Israel does when it controls the media, Big Tech, the US president and Congress, the EU, the banks and the global money supply under the misguided belief that God has chosen them as His favorite, meaning that nothing, literally nothing, on earth – i.e. the unbelievers domain – is powerful enough? Serious question. What does an unbeliever propose as a workable solution to this immediate, mid-term and long term problem?
The question I’ll leave you with is: how do you as an unbeliever propose to deal with the evil Zionist Israel does when it controls the media, Big Tech, the US president and Congress
Some of us have religious beliefs but don’t wear them on our sleeves. Meaning I wouldn’t assume anyone who criticizes modern Christianity or Christian conservatism is secular.
If US policy was set by secular Democrats and Catholic Republicans then aid to Israel would be scaled down. Israel aid depends on White protestant Republicans like Mike Johnson that do things like hold out on Ukraine aid unless the Senate meets their demands on Israel. In fact Johnson and the MAGA Republicans were demanding military aid to Israel that had’t been requested. Both Johnson and Trump have lambasted the secular Jew Schumer for not meeting their demands.
In fact if US policy on Israel was set by secular Jews and left-wing minorities like AOC then it would be closer to the UN policy of a 2 state solution. Bernie Sanders is the most outspoken critic of Netanyahu in Congress. A difficult truth for those that depict everything as an AIPAC/Jewish conspiracy. Strange how this Jewish conspiracy is unable to convince actual Jews.
You seem to think the problem is with unbelievers when Speaker Johnson claims to talk to God and describes himself as being a protector of Israel. The most active supporters of Israel are Evangelical White men in Congress. They are more pro-Israel than actual Jews and ironically would never be elected in a Jewish heavy district.
I believe Trump originally wanted to release the files but has been ordered not to by his Jewish handlers whom he obeys in all things. Maybe something else, but probably not Epstein dirt or, as others have pointed out, the Dems would have released the photos long ago.
” Like the teenage victims of Jeffrey Epstein, who returned to his mansions again and again even as they felt the humiliating experience draining their life force because they’d become convinced they could expect nothing better out of life, we have grown so accustomed to having our faces rubbed in outrageous and self-evident lies that we are starting to think we deserve the abuse.”
I am really going to break the political correctness mold.
No. They traveled around the world because it was and lots powerful adults paid attention to them. They ate well, drank well, and its unclear how they were compensated. But not a one was kidnapped and trotted off to lands unknown.
I am not condoning anything, but to misunderstand the teenage mind is a mistake — well the human mind.
It was interesting listening to the teenage girls discuss how they got other teenage girls to hang with them — —
Uhhh Parents anyone
Sadly, such vilification of the Third Reich has become reflexive, even among people we’d like to think would know better.
1. Buyinski is not any kind of mainstream journalist.
2. Loosh isn’t going to be discussed mainstream as long as the fanatics who believe nothing is real except fundamental forces and particles and the Big Bang and Darwin’s tale that humans came from monkeys continue to dominate. They are all of the biggest alpha monkeys for now. Every one that any of us know about anyway.
Ron Unz published the article but I gather from his encyclopedic writings he would consider the concept of loosh to be meaningless. You have some fine ideas as does the article’s author but this is currently and for the foreseeable future fringe material. At least this part and any of the argument that might follow from it. I have no better evidence than anybody else but I would be surprised if head hoodlums running the Eyes Wide Shut parties are not all dogmatic materialists. Epstein and Maxwell almost certainly fall into that sect.
Excellent article that ties the threads into at least part of the larger tapestry. Some in the West are aware, and yet most not, so no change coming in the short term.
I do wonder though, could Russian and Chinese Intelligence be completely oblivious to all this? So why do they still play nice with Israel, especially Russia that is effectively at war with Zionist controlled states wanting to destroy it and carve it up? Why pass the Trump Zionist fake peace plan through the UN? Perhaps the infiltration and blackmail is worldwide or other non apparent reasons.
think of the angelic 17.99999 year old child prostitutes!
You must be joking. Nobody is more defeated than the fucking Irish.
There is ZERO evidence that Trump was fucking children.
Based on the evidence he most likely had sex with an underage girl.
A casino manager testified that he and Epstein would bring a 17 year old girl to the casino. In fact they were warned multiple times about it.
What would two sleezeballs be doing with a 17 year old at a casino? Helping her with homework? She wouldn’t be allowed to gamble.
The Epstein files say that Trump with one of the girls but no age is described. As in he had sex with an Epstein prostitute.
The files also imply that he got away with something and they found that surprising. As in he flew under the radar.
Then there are the weird comments he made over the beauty pageant.
Then there is the card.
Based on the above evidence I think it is likely that he had sex with a 17 year old. That is probably the best case his MAGA fans can hope for which is disgusting.
If there WAS any such evidence, Obama and Biden and crew would surely have released it LONG AGO.
No that would not surely be the case. Biden may have been protecting Democrats in the files and wanted it to go away. This was never in the mainstream until Epstein conveniently killed himself off camera. So I don’t know why you would assume Obama would be involved.
The purpose of women isn’t conversation.
Great find, niceland. Bentz analysis clarifies the workings of the Deep State and also explains why Trump and the FBI have been covering up Epstein’s activities. And he does so far better than Ms. Buyniski with her paranoid ravings fueled by her sex obsessions and her blind acceptance of QAnon / Whitney Webb blabber.
Totally agree. I thought the same thing after reading that first paragraph. The whole article is a revelation. Wish every American were required to read it. Not that it would make much difference. The populace is just that dumb, and that’s Big Parasite’s main advantage. In fact if there were a program for Muricans to send their first-born to Izrul to be sacrificed to Moloch in return for God’s blessing, a significant percentage would not only do that but request if they can send their second-born as well. After all as the rapture-ready Evies believe “Those who bless Izrul will be blessed”. You just can’t fix stupid.
There are no other people or no other time. That’s it.
No, I mean at the START of the Blackmailing process. You know. Nip the Blackmailing behavior in the bud before it starts. Not after a long career as a Blackmailer who now might start talking to cut a deal to reduce his/her prison time. I refer you to Ghislaine Maxwell who lives a relatively easy life in a Country Club Prison.
I think no such thing. The problem is with evil, which in terms of the article about which we’re commenting is being done by Zionist Israelis and their agents using sexual blackmail, whoever and wherever they might be. The political question is far downstream from the spiritual question.
All of what you’ve said about the influences in Washington on US-Israel policy may be true but none of it addresses the core problem of the evil we’re witnessing. That’s the purpose of my question to Yukon Jack. How do unbelievers address the problem of evil, specifically the evil done by those who believe they act above the rest of mankind because of some kind of preferential relationship with God, and specifically in light of all the powers they’ve quietly been accumulating for two centuries or more.
Washington people like Mike Johnson are in a conspiracy of willful ignorance about this. Jews and Christians both know that the evil evident in the Epstein files needs to be called out for what it is. But the Christian Zionists in Washington are in a state of delirious denial when it comes to Israel, probably because they’ve been compromised or threatened by their AIPAC handlers. Whether they’re pro- or anti- Israel makes no difference.
But that still leaves the question of what to do about evil. It’s a theodicial and a theolitical question: how to deal with the problem of evil and by what means, especially in the face of seemingly all-encompassing Israeli power and influence?
Tell you something else: I was out there walking the streets of Nanaimo a few years ago. There was this Indian girl playing her guitar very well. Which I admire but there was no way to get close to give a tip. She had Indian bodyguard because they felt it was that necessary to protect her. Never got close, never got a chance to0 even say hello. Things are going pretty strange here, even in BC.
What’s “evidence”? Would a video showing the Orange Pedophile raping a young boy serve, or would that necessarily be an AI fake?
There’s only “no evidence” if you ignore not only the “easily prove beyond a reasonable doubt” mounds of circumstantial evidence (most inmates doing hard time have less evidence against them), but witnesses as well. See e.g. here and here. There are dozens who have accused him of rape (though not necessarily minors, it shows how he feels about the need for “consent”).
All no evidence to you, no doubt, b/c, without a shred of evidence yourself, you just discount their stories, ignoring his candid admission of habitual sexual assaults on camera (the infamous “just grab ’em by the pussy”), b/c it makes you feel good for supporting the Orange Pedophile/Warmonger/War Criminal/Traitor/Fraud/Liar/Rapist/Loser/Demon.
A civilised man knows to refrain himself, among other things from taking advantage of teenage girls’ judgment impairing hormonal overdrive. But then “Jewish civilisation” is as much an oxymoron as “Judeo-Christian”. The last guy who tried to civilise you ended up crucified.
Fourteen isn’t 17.99999. Think Jodie Foster in Taxi Driver or Bugsy Malone.
hey do you remember the joke from back then? you made a fist like you were jerking off and ask one of your buddies or co workers “hey, do you know what this is?” of course most would say “no” and then deliver the punchline ,”It’s Pee Wee’s playhouse!”. LOL
Appreciate the pushback — and I agree with parts of it.
1. Yes, Buyniski isn’t “mainstream.” That’s actually part of why the piece is interesting: she’s not constrained by the institutional language that forces everything into an approved materialist frame.
2. I’m not claiming “loosh” will go mainstream tomorrow. I’m saying the lexicon is cracking. When a writer drops a term that normally lives outside political commentary, it’s worth noticing — not because it proves an underground metaphysical cabal, but because it reveals that some people are starting to sense the energetic dimension of social control (even if they don’t call it that).
3. The key point: the loosh model does not require the perpetrators to “believe in loosh.” Systems can be designed to harvest outputs without endorsing the metaphysics behind them. Modern institutions already do this with human attention, outrage, cortisol, addiction loops, etc. You don’t have to be a theologian to run a casino; you only need to understand what reliably produces the desired behavior. Likewise, you can run a compromise operation and still accidentally (or deliberately) optimize for shame, terror, moral injury, and fragmentation — because those states increase controllability.
4. On “dogmatic materialists”: maybe. But even if the head operators are strict materialists, the ritual structure remains real as a sociological technology. “Ritual inversion” can be read literally, symbolically, psychologically, or energetically — the pattern holds across interpretations: desecrate innocence → create shame bonds → secure compliance → propagate complicity.
So I’m not asking anyone to accept metaphysics as a creed. I’m pointing out that “blackmail” explains leverage, but it doesn’t fully explain the repeated use of humiliation, inversion, and trauma as a curated method. If we can’t name the fuel, we keep mistaking the machinery for the purpose.
Word on the street is that Mark Levin sucks cock
My struggle to understand and adjust to truth over the past three or so decades (thanks to people of honor and courage including masters of language like Helen) has been endlessly painful and lonely.
So your vast wisdom and clarity are a very welcome comfort to me!
And for everyone on eatth, it expands light, consciousness… what humanity can see, think about, and discuss.
How perfect that you, a seer of sorts, came upon this … portal? and its one-time use of the word “loosh”.
I’ll be rereading both of your posts for help with guiding my little boat through all these disorienting storms.
Please keep shining, writing, and sharing widely from the… um… extraordinary source of gnostic understanding that’s within you!
Remember, after Pee Wee was caught in a police sting jerking off in a porn theater, that lots and lots of joke (like the one you just told) immediately started popping out of the woodwork. After a few weeks of America laughing at Pee Wee, while Pee Wee was hanging low, was staying out of sight, Pee Wee Herman finally came on stage on TV and the very first thing he said once back in the limelight was, “Heard any good jokes lately?”
I believe Trump originally wanted to release the files, but has been ordered not to by his Jewish handlers, whom he obeys in all things.
Most of the evidence suggests President Trump is protecting his Jewish donors.
It’s a pity Donald Trump seems willing to pardon convicted criminal Ghislaine Maxwell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghislaine_Maxwell
Merry Christmas
Thank you for this — I felt it.
And I want to reflect one thing back right away: if anything I’ve written resonates, it’s not because I’m a “seer,” but because you’ve already done the hard part for decades — the painful, lonely work of refusing to settle for comforting stories. That kind of integrity is rare, and it’s the real reason clarity can land.
I also don’t want to stand on a pedestal here. The point isn’t that I possess special access; it’s that there are patterns that become visible once you stop accepting the default frame. When I use words like “loosh,” I’m not asking anyone to adopt a religion. I’m using shorthand for something many people can recognize directly: that systems of power don’t only extract money, labor, or votes — they extract attention, fear, shame, and fragmentation. Those are measurable outputs in human beings, whether one speaks in psychological terms or metaphysical ones.
The “portal” you mentioned is exactly why I noticed that single word in Buyniski’s piece. It’s not proof of anything occult on its own — it’s a signal that the language is shifting just enough to allow the deeper layer to be discussed without being instantly dismissed. Sometimes one word is the first crack in a wall.
As for your boat in the storm: you don’t need a perfect map. You need a compass. For me that compass is simple: whatever increases inner sovereignty and coherence is “upstream”; whatever increases fear, compulsion, and self-betrayal is “downstream.” If a framework helps you stay coherent, it’s useful. If it makes you frantic, reactive, or hopeless, it’s probably feeding the very machine we’re trying to understand.
I’m grateful you wrote this. Keep steady — and keep speaking. The more people articulate what they see, the less isolated any of us are.
Rings true. Remember one of girls — Virginia Giuffre I think it was — said that Ehud Barak was so violent and abusive she begged Epstein not to loan her out to him again.
Agree.
Professor Jiang made the point there is an Epstein-style person in every major city. This is (((Someone))) who “networks” organized crime leaders, wealthy people, bankers and corrupt officials into a regional cabal. Maybe Wexner had several Epsteins in various places.
A long bio article following Peewee’s death in 2023 revealed his fondness for old-timey gay porn mags. He even had a guy who dealt in pornography on the lookout for any old “men’s health” magazines from the ’50s and early ’60s. He would deliver a stack every few months.
This relates to why some of us have long pointed out that Epstein’s activities are most likely related to Pizzagate-style activities where the aspects you mention are front and center.
LOL
The reason I quit watching porn years ago wasn’t a spiritual awakening or a habitual masturbation problem but I noticed that even the “normal “ porn started becoming more abusive to women. And we all know who the directors, producers, and other sleazebags who profit off the porn industry. Probably 85-90% kikes with a few greaseball Italians and a occasional White dirtbag.
Imagine also our country if there had never been the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of white American men in wars to benefit the fake Jews
The wars of the 20th century were not just about plunder overseas
They were as much about culling the heard of white men here in the US either by killing them off or maiming them physically or mentally
That’s what they call a twofer.
Two birds with one stone.
The timing is remarkable. Within days of Helen Buyinski’s exposé on the hidden machinery behind political “coincidences,” physicists announced new findings that challenge the long-held belief that the subatomic world is ruled by pure chance. Two very different fields—journalism and quantum physics—are now circling the same idea: that what we call randomness is often a mask for underlying structure.
Buyinski’s reporting revealed how events that appear spontaneous or chaotic often trace back to networks of coordination, psychological manipulation, and managed perception. It was a reminder that the disorder of world affairs is not necessarily accidental. The new research in quantum mechanics carries a strangely parallel message. At the smallest measurable scales, scientists are finding correlations where none were supposed to exist—suggesting that even nature’s most unpredictable behaviors might follow hidden rules.
It’s difficult to overstate what that parallel implies. The modern worldview has depended on randomness to justify its central narrative: that life and matter alike are accidental, that consciousness is a by-product, and that order is an illusion we impose on chaos. But if both physics and geopolitics are revealing patterns beneath apparent disorder, the entire philosophical scaffolding of modernity starts to shake.
This doesn’t mean that every particle collision or policy decision is scripted. It means the assumption of meaninglessness is no longer safe. Whether in politics or physics, the data now lean toward structure, not chaos; toward coordination, not coincidence. What was once dismissed as conspiracy or mysticism is becoming a legitimate question of pattern recognition.
In both domains, the old guard resists the shift. Materialists in science cling to uncertainty as their last defense against metaphysics, just as technocrats and intelligence networks hide design behind the theater of unpredictability. Yet the evidence keeps eroding the same frontier—from different sides. The world’s apparent randomness is looking more like camouflage.
That convergence is the story. One branch of inquiry exposes the psychological architecture of control; the other exposes the physical architecture of reality. Both suggest that what we took to be noise is, in fact, information. What we called chaos may simply be order beyond our current resolution.
And perhaps that’s the larger lesson emerging from this strange synchronization of news cycles and laboratory results: the world is starting to remember its own coherence. The political and the physical, the human and the cosmic, are echoing the same refrain. Randomness was never the truth—it was the disguise.
First of all, stop viewing me as the enemy, when in fact, we are on the same side, we both want evil defeated. Jews are evil. Not just Zionist Jews, all Jews. Evil thrives in Jew dominated Amerika because almost all Christians revere Jews and/or dare not call them out for their control and the evil they perpetrate. Nearly everyone on this site will defend some Jews and let me explain why that is a grave mistake. To be a Jew is to believe Abraham is your father. If you do not believe that then you really are not Jewish, even if you were born into that cult.
The evil consuming us starts with the exclusionary belief that Almighty God chose only one people. From that point on, these chosenites become the supremacy cult who can do no wrong, even when they commit genocide. And Christians play the same sick game, the Jew says god chose us, the Christians say god saves only us. From that point on, you have religious fascism laying other cultures and faiths to waste.
As I have described earlier, Abraham never existed. Comparative mythology proves that, but so does common sense, there is simply no invisible god up in the heavens choosing Jews over others. That is blatant tribal propaganda, and only a fool doesn’t realize that. A Christian believer is also a believer in Abraham, if you are Christian and do not believe the Abraham story, you would be wasting your time because all the logic to get saved starts in Genesis with Adam’s sin and then follows with God’s Covenant, which morphs into a New Covenant (none of it true). Abraham is a necessary ingredient in that story, all nations are blessed, etc. Christians believe Jews are a direct lineage back to Abraham, and that Christian blessing come through him. So right there, Christian faith is beholden to Jews, and is expressed as reverence for Jews even now.
None of what Christians or Jews believe has any part in reality, it is only a mental condition caused by belief – and that belief, this solidarity of Christians and Jews, is the great evil consuming the world. The United States is currently run by these monsters – who are openly funding and arming a genocide. So if you want to stop this great evil you must first free your mind from that horrible myth of god choosing one tribe. That is how you stop Jews – you stop believing their religious bullshit. I have engaged in this debate for some time, back over a decade ago my handle was Phishna, and I was in communication via email with the great writer John Kaminski, and this essay stands out in describing the problem:
https://johnkaminski.info/pages/the_next_chapter/three_sides_of_the_same_coin.html
There is no “Lord”. There are Jews, who write your laws, who enforce these laws in a jewdicial system. Christians play an active role of enforcers of Jewish laws on us, this includes the military draft, where are youth are drafted to die overseas on Jewish instigated wars. Christians, all Christians, are part of this because they believe in the sanctity of the Jewish culture and holy books – when in fact the Holy Bible is the very instrument of our destruction. If you believe in that book and give the Jews a free pass, you are in fact, part of this great evil consuming earth. And as a Christian – you must be blind to it – because you want to fight evil yet do not see that your faith is part and parcel part of that great evil. And you are so blind, you want me to convert to your faith! Well Neo, wake up!
If you think I am making any of this up, go find a television and turn on the Christian Broadcasting Network and watch how these Christians are lapping up Jewish evil 24/7. They love Israel, they love Jews, they love the Holy Bible, they love to pray for Israel, and they love Trump, the biggest Jewish whore ever. My god man, why do you think I have the problem of lacking faith? My lack of faith in the Holy Bible is my salvation as a moral human being on a god damned planet gone into Jew hell.
All of what you’ve said about the influences in Washington on US-Israel policy may be true but none of it addresses the core problem of the evil we’re witnessing.
You’re talking about a sort of eruption of evil on a spiritual level and how to contain it.
Well I don’t think religion and politics mix well.
In politics it is policy that matters. I don’t see what difference it makes if the people of Gaza suffer because Trump worships satan or because Speaker Johnson views himself as leading God’s most second chosen people towards the rapture.
The same lousy policy results.
But the Christian Zionists in Washington are in a state of delirious denial when it comes to Israel, probably because they’ve been compromised or threatened by their AIPAC handlers.
The AIPAC excuse tries to absolve their responsibility.
Trump is the most pro-Israel president in history and he is a billionaire. He doesn’t need AIPAC money. Speaker Johnson is a Rapture Ready evangelical. Support for Israel is part of his belief system. The Evangelicals believe the second coming is being kindled by current world events and America can’t be saved. The destruction of the nations is part of the prophesy whereby they expect to live in New Israel for eternity. Meaning America is just a temporary residence for them and their children.
But that still leaves the question of what to do about evil. It’s a theodicial and a theolitical question: how to deal with the problem of evil and by what means, especially in the face of seemingly all-encompassing Israeli power and influence?
I think you are stuck on a philosophical discussion instead of considering the problem as a matter of degree.
US policy towards Israel would be far more moderate if it was decided by our Catholics in congress. Secular Jews ironically are far less pro-Israel than our Evangelicals. So clearly we have differing belief systems that affect policy. We can talk motivation all day long but the voting patterns are clear. You can tally up Israel support by belief system. It correlates much cleaner than AIPAC money.
How about the story of him entering a room of naked teenage girls at a beauty pageant
https://www.thelist.com/1970475/donald-trump-miss-universe-pageant-disturbing-details/
Are we to believe that was made up in light of the Epstein files? Trump is on camera lying about his relationship with Epstein. We know they were good friends and Epstein amusingly thought Trump was the bigger sleezeball. Pretty bad when a sex trafficker of underage girls talks about how Trump has zero morals.
The last of the Trumphicans like Robert Dolan are only seeing how big of a hole they can dig for themselves.
They are crossing their fingers and hoping the worst is a 17 year old and not him giving Clinton a blowjob.
Out of AGREE but agree 100%
The more women are put on a pedestal and protected from absolutely everything in everyday life, the more they’re abused in porn. There’s some link there between the two.
I remember some little spic “actor” called “TT boy” and this guy was bad enough but then you had others that just flat out really had some issues. These were the run of the mill “normal” porn films, one can only imagine some of the fetish or hardcore shit out there now. I stopped watching that warped shit out of disgust. There is healthy and normal sexual desires and then there is just pure sick filth.
Mike Benz a credible source, are you kidding? The man is an obvious tribe member who is steering the conversation away from Israel. He’s open about the importance of his judaism to his background and worldview, notice in his criticism regarding NGOs or Ukraine he never mentions the jewish oligarchs running the operations. His goal is to trick gullible conservatives into ignoring the world jewry angle.
Let me make this clear, Epstein and his coterie of jewish backers raped children to acquire kompromat on powerful people as well as to indulge in sexual aggression against goyim children. The survivors mention the jewish supremacy angle explicitly when relating the poor treatment they had received. If you refuse to follow this rabbi hole then you are a shameless traitor to the heritage of the West and as such rightly led by the nose by repulsive kikes like Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro.
There’s so much more, even though, at this point OBVIOUSLY, a great deal is being covered up by the Global Mafia/Deep State that rules the West. For example, the many women who have credibly accused the Orange Rapist of sexually assaulting them (16 accusations, two of which amount to rape, apart from the entire Epstein crime syndicate).
Two more recent revelations: here and here.
The latter is about an Epstein survivor who claimed that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein raped her in a posh hotel (and that the rape was arranged by a woman “with a funny name”). The victim, who refused to report the crime to police for fear of being killed, was later found dead with bullet holes in her head, and her death was ruled as a suicide (even though the investigating police claimed that was impossible).
Oh yes, the “suicide“. That’s the model where Global Mafia soldiers enter your home, force a gun into your hand, point it at your head, and pull the trigger. Sometimes more than once.
Networks like Epstein’s represent the extreme end of that war—the engineered destruction of innocence as a tool for controlling the powerful and, through them, the world.
WOW!
You’re not the enemy, not sure where that idea came from. Muslims see unbelievers as the enemy, as their religion is fundamentally adversarial. Christianity isn’t like that at all. You may see it that way through your unbelieving eyes, but it’s fundamentally about love. Not your Kum Bay Ya kind of love but real love, the relationship between subject and object that creates worth in the object and not merely responds to worth which is what the world at large seeks to do. As a Christian, I see every unbeliever as a fellow image-bearer of God. That doesn’t mean we have to agree with each other, or dig deeply into each other’s ideas and debate one another. I’m sorry that feels like enmity to you. It is not.
As far being on the same side, in terms of wanting to defeat evil we would be, but in terms of how to go about it that question is still unresolved. As a believer, evil is defeated by leading people to Christ. I have faith in Christ, because I see in him the only way that evil can actually BE defeated. I do not have faith in the Bible, or any of the stories it contains. Bible stories are just the inspired words of men that show how God has revealed himself through time, leaving footprints that lead to the revelation of Christ. I don’t know where you learned all of your Bible knowledge, which is better than most, but they’ve really not helped your spiritual development. That’s on them, not you.
All those TV-watching Trump-loving, Christians you mention who love the Bible and lap up all that the Jews are doing just because they are Jews have also missed one of the central aspects of their supposed belief, which is that Christ came to end the religion they created, you know the one that worshipped Abraham and his descendants as LORDs of all the earth. It had to end because it became an abomination, with focus on bloodlines and rituals and…well, themselves and their incessant Chosenism.
But, and that’s a big BUT, I take my spiritual direction from the Bible (not merely the stiries it contains, but from what is says about God and how he wants people to act) and have studied it for well over twenty years. It informs my faith but it is not the object of my faith. I don’t rally around Christianity either, I pick away at the many failings of Christians to act according to the precepts of their faith, of whom Christian Zionists are but one misguided faction.
There’s a lot more I can discuss but it will bore people here on TUR. The question I posed before still remains unanswered: what do unbelievers do about evil committed by those who believe they are above everyone else because of a perceived special relationship with God and who have all-encompassing worldly power? Telling them the story of Abraham is a lie will do nothing as they couldn’t care less about that story, except the part about how Abe’s descendants will be a great nation. They have that delusion because they rejected the deeper lessons of the Bible and failed to act accordingly. So it will go with Christians who do the same thing.
Biden was compromised so did not want the files to come out. We know from a British newspaper article from back in the day that Trump was pursuing a 20 year old supplied to him by Epstein. This woman now says she was groomed and trafficked from a young age by Epstein. The Wall Street Journal says Trump ordered Bondi not to release the files once Bondi told him his name was in the files. No mention of Israel, just Trump. Trump has sued the WSJ for publishing an obscene birthday card allegedly drawn by Trump. Trump is not suing the WSJ for reporting Trump ordered Bondi
not to release the files.
In her 60 minutes interview with Lesley Stahl, MTG says she asked Trump to invite these women who have come forward to the White House. Trump said no, MTG asked why not? Trump said “people would be hurt”. Those people need to be hurt. Who the fuck is Trump defending?
No, I’m not stuck on anything, I was simply asking the question about how to deal with the evil inherent in the Epstein revelations. It’s an all-encompassing problem that needs to be resolved somehow. Can it be resolved politically? I doubt it. Washington is drenched in the whole sorry mess. Can it be resolved religiously? Maybe, but if Christian Zionists foolishly insist that everything the Jews do is acceptable because of an eschatological preference, then no it won’t be resolved that way. Can it be resolved by abandoning the Abraham story and all the other Jew-related Bible stories that some people love to debunk as if they matter in and of themselves? No, I don’t think so. So what will it be? What CAN be the solution to the problem of evil to an unbeliever without a reference point agreed by all?
That is a philosophical question but it’s also a fundamentally spiritual one. I agree that it’s a question better dealt with by degrees. Political steps, moral steps, spiritual steps, working in whatever ways they can. That’s a wise response, so let’s stick with that for now.
From what I’ve noticed, not one of the young women who had anything to do with Donald Trump, re associations with Jeffrey Epstein, had anything unfavorable to say about Trump. Indeed, the opposite is the case.
There’s nothing unlawful about pursuing an attractive 20 year old female. Trump’s fame and money seemed to attract many young women.
I’m six months younger than President Trump, and continue to dream about beautiful, young, intelligent women. Unfortunately, I’m pretty sure they don’t dream about geriatrics like me, even though I’m in good shape.
Merry Christmas
That is not the point. Obviously that is an issue. But a civilized family might want to know where their 17 year old daughters is going for days, weeks at a a time.
And you seriously under estimate the youth of today. They spin circles around me on issues of intimacy.
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I have no idea what this,
“The last guy who tried to civilise you ended up crucified.”
means.
Ohh I see. My comment has nothing to with anyone’s ethnic or faith and practice background or is supportive of relations with children.
You are trying to seize some moral high ground that does not exist.
What you are saying is probably true ultimately and philosophically, but most likely there will always exist a number of unknowns with so much complexity of causes and antecedents that the initial trigger(s) or stimulus cannot be discovered. This would be especially true for a stimulus that appears and then disappears quickly enough to avoid detection, in any Reality, whether overt to the senses or sub-atomic or of that realm.
Let’s look at a concrete, accessible and familiar example. Machines that do practical and necessary work and create output or transfer energy, can and do fail, outside of all predictabilities and measurement. The cause might be microriser, casting fault that is imperceptible, an entrap air bubble in some component that is undetectable, a spurious problem with the fuel source that was undetected (in heavy oils this can be a wax ball of any size, etc, etc. There are millions of these small deficiencies, that while usually insignificant, can and do cause a casualty, many times due to a cascading effect, domino theory, or additive causes. Example, one component, e.g., a fuel injector might fail or malfunction, causing a vibration that affects another component that is already compromised. Of course, the machine manufacturer tests for various failures and anomalies. But of course the permutations of various combinations cannot be simulated entirely. And sometimes a failure or casualty, when forensically examined post fact reveals absolutely nothing as a precursor or cause.
Why do some people get cancer, or rheumatoid arthritis, or any other immunological disease? Many times there is a causal component of stress, but quantifying that is very, very problematic; and that same stress in another person of matching morphology and metabolism results in no change.
Knowledge implies and implicates and facilitates prediction. Knowledge of the physical and metaphysical world will always be incomplete. An analogue is an asymptotic line.* By definition it never reaches unity with the specific value, expressed graphically as an axis line, usually.
*Asymptotic describes a behavior where a function or sequence gets arbitrarily close to a specific value, curve, or line (an asymptote) as a variable approaches a limit, usually infinity, without necessarily touching it
And finally we must consider the Laws of Entropy. Will we ever be able to predict the dispersal and position of a gas released into a room at a molecular level? And what about electron orbits when molecules collide? What will be their new track or energy change?? An experiment repeated with exactly the same components as mentioned will never by EXACTLY the same in all aspects. The spontaneous Law of Randomness will always be operant.
Of course, this can be partially explained by the precision of measurement, which is limitless in theory, as calculation power ultimately be imagined. Suppose for example, the earth’s gravity was very slightly changed by a passing asteroid or another planet in the solar system, or the earth wobbled on its axis “for some unexplained reason”, or any one of perhaps many thousands of independent effective factors, and that does not even consider the combinations and permutations, which could number in the double digit exponential factors.
Anyway, there are and will always be unpredictability. Of course, many times the multiplicity of causes are discovered only forensically after the fact, downstream. So, the value is academic and in retrospect.
The more women are put on a pedestal and protected from absolutely everything in everyday life, the more they’re abused in porn.
Abused in porn?
The women in porn get paid more than the men. Do you pity the porn stars that are millionaires and keep doing it?
There are men in my community that can’t afford to get health care and I’m supposed to pity millionaire prostitutes? The could start a business at any moment and get out of porn. They stay in porn because they like the attention. They enjoy doing it.
I don’t support the normalization of porn but it is really just another form of prostitution.
Sorry but part of the female population has no problem with prostitution and they would rather do it over 9-5 work. I know that reality is hard for tradcons that want to believe all women are good little angels that are corrupted by society.
Porn isn’t going anywhere. Our Christian conservatives get on their knees for the “free market” and that includes the porn industry. Sports gambling is now fully normalized and our conservatives say nothing. I guess their main job is to get tax cuts for the rich.
Your totally off-topic comments are bad behavior so don’t be surprised it they get trashed. Use the Open Thread for this sort of thing.
1) Mechanical failures don’t prove randomness; they prove hidden complexity.
Microrisers, casting faults, trapped bubbles, wax balls, compromised injectors + vibration + another weak component… that’s basically a textbook illustration of deterministic cascades in complex systems. The fact that forensic analysis sometimes finds “nothing” doesn’t mean there was no precursor; it means the precursor was below detection thresholds, transient, distributed across multiple factors, or not recorded. That’s not metaphysics; it’s just the reality of measurement and post-hoc reconstruction.
2) Disease and biology: stochastic outcomes don’t imply “uncaused,” they imply “multicausal + threshold + individual variance.”
Why does one person get RA and another doesn’t under “similar stress”? Because “stress” isn’t a single variable, and “matching morphology and metabolism” is never truly matched at the relevant resolution (immune history, micro-injuries, infections, epigenetics, gut microbiome, exposures, sleep, inflammatory set-points, etc.). Biology routinely behaves like a probabilistic system even when it’s still driven by causes—because the causal web is too dense and too individualized to fully model.
3) The asymptote point is right—but it cuts both ways.
Yes: knowledge is asymptotic. We will never reach omniscience, so perfect prediction of all microstates is not on the table. But that doesn’t mean the world is fundamentally “random” in the philosophical sense. It means there’s always a gap between reality’s full causal state and our access to it. That gap can generate irreducible uncertainty for us without requiring reality itself to be unstructured.
4) Entropy is not “the Law of Randomness.” It’s a statistical law.
Entropy tells you what happens to distributions in large ensembles, not that events are causeless. We can’t track every molecule in a room, but we can predict the macro behavior extremely well (diffusion, equilibrium, temperature gradients). That’s exactly the point: the micro is too detailed to track, yet the system still expresses stable higher-order structure. If anything, that supports the “pattern beneath noise” idea rather than refuting it.
5) Even in physics: “can’t repeat an experiment EXACTLY” doesn’t imply fundamental chaos—just sensitivity and uncontrolled variables.
Passing asteroid, tiny gravity shifts, wobble, environmental fluctuations—yes, absolutely. But those are still causal influences. The fact that there are “many thousands” of effective factors is exactly why a complex system produces outcome variance. Again: that’s epistemic unpredictability, not proof of metaphysical randomness.
I’m not claiming perfect predictability or a clockwork universe. I’m claiming something narrower and (to me) more defensible: that “randomness” is often a placeholder word we use when the underlying structure is too deep, too fast, too distributed, or too high-dimensional for us to model. At the human level (politics/media), this shows up as “coincidences” that aren’t; at the physical level, it shows up as correlations and constraints that don’t fit the story of pure chance.
And lastly, even if unpredictability remains—of course it will—that doesn’t make the question academic. In practice, the value is in recognizing patterns at the right level: not predicting every gust of wind molecule-by-molecule, but recognizing when the weather system is being steered; not predicting each individual failure, but recognizing systemic failure modes; not predicting every headline, but recognizing recurring structures of coordination and perception management.
That’s the real claim: structure exists, even if total prediction doesn’t.
There’s nothing unlawful about pursuing an attractive 20 year old female. Trump’s fame and money seemed to attract many young women.
That is gross but isn’t the controversy.
The question is whether or not he had sex with a 17 year old.
All evidence points to: Most likely.
I was simply asking the question about how to deal with the evil inherent in the Epstein revelations. It’s an all-encompassing problem that needs to be resolved somehow. Can it be resolved politically? I doubt it. Washington is drenched in the whole sorry mess. Can it be resolved religiously? Maybe, but if Christian Zionists foolishly insist that everything the Jews do is acceptable because of an eschatological preference, then no it won’t be resolved that way.
Well even after the Epstein release the polls show that Trump still has strong support from Christian conservatives.
Evangelicals are among his top supporters and they have clearly given him some type of moral pass.
Which shows that Christian White men of this country still don’t want to criticize Trump. I suspect most are hoping the economy takes off and everyone forgets about the 17 year old and blowjob stuff.
What CAN be the solution to the problem of evil to an unbeliever without a reference point agreed by all?
Christian conservatives seem to lack any moral reference point with Trump so I don’t see why you are making the assumption that secular Whites are the problem.
Secular Unz commenters would replace Trump and scale back support for Israel. Christian conservatives of America would not. Why are you so certain that unbelievers are the problem?
Well one woman, Virginia Giuffre, said she never saw Trump do anything inappropriate. She had previously been a Trump employee.
Women who saw Trump, but did not see misbehavior: 1 or 2?
Women who have come forward to Thomas Massie and MTG: 20?
Girls abused in Epstein’s trafficking? thousands
In other words, we need to look beyond the tip of the iceberg. The women who have recently come forward have not “cleared” Trump. He refused to meet with them in the White House. I doubt they have anything good to say about him.
Where there is smoke there is fire. Pursuing a 20 year old supplied by Epstein, a woman who was trafficked by Epstein as a girl, is not a good look for Trump. How old was she when he first met her? Why is she coming forward now? Why has she not cleared Trump? Is this just one of many girls/women Epstein supplied to Trump? What are the odds this is the only one, the one whose name made it into print? Near zero.
Redacting the files is the smoking gun. Trump is guilty. More so than Nixon removing 18 minutes of tape.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Randomness versus order, is a profound question that goes back at least to
the ancient Greeks, and has been considered by theologians, physicists,
mathematicians and millions of ordinary people. It is the ultimate
“What’s going on here?” There is ample evidence of both plan and chance.
The preface to the question concerns the possibility that our knowledge can
ever catch up to our imagination, given the fact that the latter has usually
preceded and exceeded the former.
When we ask a question that cannot be answered, we define the limits
of our knowledge and begin to sense the value of what we don’t know.
What you outlined and exposed is found also within the structures and diagnostic insights of Mass Formation Psychosis/Hysteria/Delusion. This herding and disabling phenomenon is different from an external dictatorship. Mass Formation comes about through internal changes, where individuals’ psyche and ego, i.e. their entire personality is substituted by externally generated implants. The individual’s complete collapse of Self then is made to seek confirmation and succor in The Collective. This theme was explored and explained by Eric Hoffer in his books.
I don’t care for Neo-logisms at all. Appellation and assignment of novel nomenclature is the bane of clarity and probity. Doing so requires laborious definitions, attributes, exposition, etc, etc. It is a disease of the Aristotelian Ideal of Categories and unnecessary phylum.
The subjects and objects of this article can be well and completely understood by Jungian Analytic Psychology, with its interrelated and interconnected concepts and constructs. This offers a network and comprehensive understanding, rather than the relative superficiality of “Loosh”. I am disgusted and amused by this folly.
Further understanding and appreciated can be accessed by the analogue and synthetic structures of The Total Matrix that a person can be immersed and marinated. The latter word implies a penetration of takeover of perception, interpretation, and references that serve as navigating points of reference and method. It’s a form of Simulation, like the Holodeck in Star Dreck. One believes all perception is actually objective “real”, i.e., native and part of the Universal Archtypes. Implantation of a surrogate and synthetic Reality has been shown in many dramas, whereby the individual deeply believes that his memories and thoughts are his own. Since behavior largely is derived from memories, experiences – both actual and virtual – it is easy to see how modification of behavior proceeds. It is cause and effect. As Buddha said, actions are preceded by ideas. Such a simple sentence, but infinitely relevant and relational, encompassing a vast ocean of subtexts, corollaries, and relations.
Well said — and I agree the question is ancient for a reason. The Greeks framed it as cosmos vs. chaos, and we’re still circling the same tension with better instruments.
Where I’d add a small refinement is this: when we say “there’s ample evidence of both plan and chance,” we should be careful that “chance” often means “unresolved causes,” not necessarily “uncaused events.” A lot of what looks like chance is simply the limit of resolution in complex systems. That doesn’t eliminate contingency or surprise, but it changes the philosophical implication. Uncertainty can be a feature of our access to the system rather than proof that the system itself is fundamentally lawless.
And I like your point about imagination preceding knowledge. That’s often how science advances: intuition or metaphor first, measurement later. The interesting moment is when multiple domains begin to point in the same direction — not that we’ve “solved” randomness, but that the old confidence in pure meaninglessness gets harder to defend.
So yes: these questions define limits. But they also function as probes. Sometimes the boundary we hit is real; sometimes it’s just the edge of our current model. Either way, the conversation is useful because it forces us to distinguish between what we can’t know yet and what we’re assuming is unknowable in principle.
You’re way off track here. Women do porn because it’s easy for women and it pays better for many than a proper job. It’s more like training women to cage the virility Beast in a fantasy of mind for money and ever-diminishing thrill-seeking pleasure. The danger is far greater for the men in those women’s lives – husbands, boyfriends, fathers, uncles, and especially the male porn stars who are reduced to a lump of meat – because they become the commodified beasts on the leash, reduced and relegated to lesser men, recruited without consent in the distinctly female-driven porn epidemic. There is an argument to be made that teenage runaways who fall into porn to feed themselves or their drug habit are being abused, but that would be an exception not the rule. By far the greater percentage are women who do it because they like it/want it/can’t do anything else or are too lazy to work standing up.
We can look back at the Fifty Shades of Gray phenomenon of twenty years ago to understand the female porn dynamic. It’s a look at real-life sexual relations in an overly-feminized world where marriage is a Wheel of Fortune game show and unrestrained hypergamy in women is the norm. It’s not hard to explain the runaway popularity of pornography with women. Its popularity reaffirms what has been common knowledge for millennia – that most women viscerally desire dominant virile men…and money. If you could combine the two without the inconvenience of marriage and babies, well..no big shock there.
If the ‘Fifty Shades’ phenomenon represents anything wholesome it may be its role in calling out feminists and man-shamers for their own hypocrisy in relation to pornography use. The collective mental twistings of a million rationalizing women and conservative men were heard everywhere grasping for plausible deniability or for some new social convention that would try to excuse women from culpability of what has always been an inconvenient truth: most women like sex, a lot, and viscerally desire dominant virile men. If working on their backs is an easy way to tap that maple syrup, then they will do it without too much coaxing.
We don’t seem to want to question this too closely lest the moderate man – the father/ brother/protector/provider, the man after God’s heart – gets too curious about real feminine nature. We don’t seem to want to accept that many women objectify men, use men sexually, will choose sex work over almost any other job if the money is good enough, have dominance/rape fantasies, and struggle with a sexual nature that is often more sinister, destructive and debasing than in men. Not all, but some.
We seem instead to want to present all women as pure and blemish-free. Isn’t this a way for women to approach the bad boy guilt-free; to take an inherently unsafe activity outside and make it safe under the protection of sex worker industry regulations? Perhaps these women want to submit to a man in a film scene without having to submit to men in real life; or to have a man who can tame their feral selves; or who can trip their danger signals for a thrill. Even better if he is a stranger from a strange land.
The porn-girls also seem to want this all to happen without giving up their freedom. They seem to want to play this out in the context of normality, perhaps so they can feel loved while also claiming their promiscuity is moral. They seem to want to lose control to a string of strangers who have all the hallmarks of dangerous men, with a promise that this will always end well; that it will be safe, without losing the excitement of it feeling unsafe. They seem to be encouraging men to build a sort of serial monogamy amusement park where they can ride the roller coaster and experience the fear of falling or crashing, while knowing that just behind the scenes grown ups are actually in charge and are responsible for them ‘safely feeling unsafe’.
They also don’t seem to want to be hemmed in. So instead of building an actual amusement park, they seem to want pornographic roller coasters to spring up in similar but faked circumstances to where the real danger might appear. They seem to want to be driving their car on the freeway one instant, and the next experience the fear of careening out of control the next. They seem to want to impulsively jump off the edge of the Grand Canyon and have a parachute appear and deploy at the last minute. And they seem to want a guarantee by society that all of this will be safe.
Danger without danger, bad boy in a controlled environment, a guy who could hurt them but won’t…this is the female porn dynamic, perfected.
You make several excellent points, particularly about mass formation and the way personality collapse leads to absorption into the collective. That psychological lens is indispensable; Hoffer, Jung, and later thinkers all touched the same nerve.
Where I might differ is only in vocabulary, not substance. “Loosh,” “overlay,” and similar terms are simply shorthand for the same energetic and psychological dynamics that Jung described symbolically and Hoffer sociologically. They’re not meant as mystification but as modern metaphors for the same underlying mechanisms — how attention, emotion, and psychic energy are harvested and redirected when individuals lose inner sovereignty.
Your description of externally generated implants of perception is nearly identical to what I’ve called the simulation effect: reality replaced by manufactured consensus that feels self-authored. Whether one speaks in the idiom of depth psychology, mass formation, or metaphysical energetics, the functional pattern is the same — loss of authentic perception through imposed narrative coherence.
So perhaps the disagreement is linguistic, not conceptual. You prefer the Jungian framework; I’m tracing how the same pattern manifests in technological and informational systems. Both views point to the same conclusion: once perception itself becomes engineered, behavior follows automatically.
Many years ago, I knew a bloke who was a close friend of Errol Flynn (1909-1959).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Errol_Flynn
He told me of occasions when he was out with his friend, and Errol had to virtually beat women off with a stick.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Wicked,_Wicked_Ways
In late 1942, two 17-year-old girls, Betty Hansen and Peggy Satterlee, separately accused Flynn of statutory rape at the Bel Air home of Flynn’s friend Frederick McEvoy, and on board Flynn’s yacht Sirocco, respectively. Flynn was acquitted, but the trial’s widespread coverage and lurid overtones permanently damaged his carefully cultivated screen image as an idealized romantic leading player.
https://theconversation.com/friday-essay-fame-male-privilege-and-a-media-circus-revisiting-errol-flynns-rape-trial-80-years-on-188896
In Australia, we have the expression, not much heard these days: “in like Flynn,” which ostensibly refers to John Flynn (1880-1951) of the Inland Mission, and the Royal Flying Doctor Service, and not Errol mounting up for, well, not battle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Flynn_(minister)
Merry Christmas
Don’t know which street you’re on, Shapiro,
but next time, get a photo.
No, they don’t, and no, it isn’t.
Your lack of situational awareness is utterly astounding. Since no doubt someone as superior as you can’t figure it out: your take on Islam, “through your unbelieving eyes”, is even more absurd. Unlike Christianity, Islam doesn’t state that if you don’t believe Christ is God you will burn in Hell for eternity, or at least have no chance of salvation. Which is pretty rough on people who have been taught to believe other things, let alone have never heard of Christ, isn’t it, you so deeply loving Christian?
The fact is almost every person is pompous and arrogant enough to believe that their own beliefs are the best and everyone else is wrong. That’s almost a direct consequence of consciousness. In this regard you are no different than the Muslims you accuse of viewing those who think differently as the “enemy”, as it seems you do actually hate Muslims. And Christians are also well known for hating, and viiolently attacking, those who think differently from themselves. A long, long history of that.
So if their parents are OK with it, you can abuse them? Like when Roman Polanski drugged and sodomised a 13yr old? Or like when Leo Frank raped and murdered 13yr old Mary Phagan? I mean what kind of parents let their 13yr old daughter work in a factory? As for the youth of today, how do you know how savvy they are re “intimacy”, do you talk sex with them?
“Christian conservatives seem to lack any moral reference point with Trump so I don’t see why you are making the assumption that secular Whites are the problem.”
I don’t hear any christians of any kind applauding the president’s conduct with women period. No one is applauding his divorce. Christians by and large are not supporting the marijuana push or any other conduct. The pictured world view is much much larger for for fundamentalists. In that regard, and no disrespect intended, President Trump is a mechanism used by God for some purpose. It does not mean they are supporting misconduct —
As human beings we make judgement calls all the time . . . weighing out out the lesser consequence of choices. Now I am not necessarily agreeing, but the attitude that somehow, if they are screaming from the rooftops about all the president’s faults — aha — they must be in on it or stupid or hypocrites — is incorrect. Pres. Trump is not their pastor. And even I have to admit, I am personally delighted he took a stand for children in the womb — and did so unlike any president before. For me that is a fundamental moral crack that must be healed – a nation cannot support the murder of children.
But I am curious about your comment regarding secular whites. If you are advocating whiteness, president Trump is probably the best you have at the moment.
For what it’s worth, these are the sort of women I dream about.
Celtic Bagpipes and War Drums March
Epic Scottish Street Parade at Twilight
Greetings of the season
Thanks for weighing in. Christians are certainly responsible for many acts of violence, you’ll get no argument from me against that. Throughout the history of the Church, there have been many so-called ‘believers’ who go into places preaching about a God they barely understand while acting contrary to His commands. That still happens, and it happens in every religion, even the secular religions of Westernism, Israel First-ism, petro-dollarism, Americanism, atheism and scientism.
I don’t hate Muslims. As I’ve stated elsewhere on TUR, I know several Muslims and have never met one I didn’t like. In fact the person of faith I respect most for her devotion to her faith is Muslim, more than I can say for most of the Christians I know.
I suppose this could be true if you rail against the concept of firm belief in something that requires faith. But don’t confuse the commitments of faith with pomposity and arrogance. Of course there will always be believers who are pompous and arrogant, but that says more about them than their beliefs. I think you understand this already.
This is true in context. The context is that Christianity is all about belief in Christ the divine personhood of God. That wasn’t always the case, for three hundred years or so after Jesus’ crucifixion, his divinity was only in the hearts of the faithful. And since that is the basis of Christian belief it makes logical sense that if you don’t believe in Christ the divine person and his power to save people from separation from God, you will be separate from God. That’s simply logic. It’s not arrogant to state the plain logic of it.
It may surprise you to know that Hell isn’t mentioned anywhere in the Bible. Some Christians believe it exists but many don’t. I recognize that separation from God through the unbelief of my youth is vastly different to being in his presence as a mature man of faith, so I suppose that could point back to a place some people call Hell. I certainly don’t want to go back to that dark and spiritually lonely place.
I was just talking about the change in the type of porn that is being portrayed. The porn Trinity used to watch is nowadays called “vanilla”, and what is available nowadays is much nastier. The porn that Max Hardcore went to jail for some years ago is now widespread and acceptable.
Most of those women in porn are not rich. Very few stay long enough to make serious money. Many more do end up homeless, in jail or dead through ODs, suicide or even as murder victims. It’s big money for a day’s work, if they get paid, and many have been ripped off, but it’s not regular work, and many are in and out of the business after a few movies. Anyway, many, after they leave the business, do claim that they had been abused while in it. Sure they did it just for the money.
Maybe, just maybe, all women want to be whores in their youth and nuns in their old age, but most don’t end up as either.
What you say could be true, and many of those women in porn say the same while they’re working in it, if it was just people having sex and someone filming it. In reality, most porn shoots are very different. It’s just a business with people acting out what they’re directed to do, with the action often stopping and starting again, with the actors often not even liking each other much, and who would rather be somewhere else if not for the money.
Then, I guess many non-porn people engage in similar activity in the swingers clubs and parties. If women want to live their fantasies that you mention they could get into the swinging scene. I guess that they have bouncers there to ensure it is safe. They do sometimes have the odd porn star/s there as a guest/s to spice up the parties. Don’t they have non-porn related fisting competitions open to members of the public who are into that sort of thing that tour the US? Sure, Only Fans and web camming have opened up the sex business to many more people but if they really enjoy anything more than the money they make is hard to tell. Surely you can’t trust what they say as after all it is marketing.
Really?
https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=320444
For what it’s worth, these are the sort of women I dream about. This is my second attempt to load this YouTube video onto The Unz Review. Perhaps the sophisticated programming (AI?) of TUR regards young attractive women marching with bagpipes as “pornography” to be censored.
Celtic Bagpipes and War Drums March
Epic Scottish Street Parade at Twilight
Greetings of the season
Thank YOU for your thoughtful and inspiring reply!
I clicked on your username and had the edifying pleasure of reading the beautifully articulated wisdom of several more of your posts here on Unz. That also led me to discover a Jung treasure that I wasn’t ready for when/if I’d ever encountered it in the past.
The way you so articulately bring together such a vast expanse of knowledge, intuition, and wisdom is kind of spell-binding.
This isn’t exaltation to pedestal. Just want to acknowledge what is.
Like wings of a butterfly flapping somewhere and causing … a big huge happy aha moment of inner sovereignty and coherence … to light up all over the world!
Art has portrayed stuff like that. Song “Dancin’ In The Streets.” Spontaneous waltzing in Grand Central Station in the movie “The Fisher King”. The movie “Pleasantville”. Others…
Isn’t all of history just the revelation of unfamiliar ideas captured in a word or two, and… BLINK! New zeitgeist!
I’m inspired by the little spurt in awareness you brought to my attention, and I look forward to learning and growing… and yes, I will keep speaking. And I hope help disappear walls of isolation.
Equal respect and gratitude to Helen and Ron!
Remember 1980s porn actress (((Nina Hartley)))? She was the featured dancer at a club called Deja Vu in Tampa in the late 1990s, might have been early 2000-2001. Of course she was past it by then and this had to be poetic justice. Hartley did interracial porn if I am not mistaken.
Anyhow, about 4 nigras stroll in, the only other nigras in the club was a bouncer who must have been at least 6’7”. Not a single nigra stripper because it would have been a waste. No tips for sure and at this time at least, this club had some hawt chicks. The nigras plopped themselves a couple of rows back from the stage probably because nigras don’t tip, lol. Anyhow (((Nina Hartley))) comes out to Cue: Low Rider by WAR, not the Nina of the 1980s but at least 25-26 years ago not bad.
The nigras start heckling her about if she liked Black men, oblivious to the fact that Hartley was a San Francisco Jewess who did Blacks on film (pretty sure, but not positive.) White female pornstars are paid extra money for interracial porn and anal, probably threesomes as well. Hartley ignored the racist nigras but I couldn’t help but think karma was served on a silver platter that night.
My buddy paid I think 5 dollars to get a picture with her and I laughed at him. He’s like 6’3” 250 back then. He picks her up and Hartley, a petite woman looks tiny. He got her to come over and talk to me. I felt a pair of hands cover my eyes from the back and I turn around and it’s her. Surprisingly she was very cordial and not Jewy obnoxious. Still, I was only slightly sympathetic to Hartley dealing with some good ole Cigar City style TNB which had to be something she never encountered in a mostly vanilla hippie upbringing in San FranShitco.
Yet another Jewess pornstar I had a brief conversation was at Deja Vu was the late Jeanna Fine. Fine also did interracial porn. Her Cue song was another Black song ( but good tune though) : Do It Till Your Satisfied by B.T. Express. Fine actually was a better dancer than Hartley. No Blacks in the club that night except for the huge bouncer. Actually down to earth lady but you couldn’t help but feel she was a very sad figure.
Yeah, you mentioned that before. I thought Nina Hartley was good in Boogie Nights.
What was considered hard-core porn in those days would really be soft-core by today’s standards.
I don’t hear any christians of any kind applauding the president’s conduct with women period. No one is applauding his divorce.
His Christian conservative supporters did their best to depict his crimes as a liberal media conspiracy when he was campaigning for a second term as a felon. Trump was given a second chance due to Christian conservatives that did not want to look at the evidence of his crimes. Christian White men of this country could have found an actual Christian candidate and they instead went back to the New York felon that gives them tinglies. Very similar to the woman who goes back to the bad boyfriend when there are a dozen other men she could date.
I’m not speculating. Christians and especially Christian conservatives back Trump:
Trump approval rating still high among Christians, poll finds
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/263731/trump-approval-rating-still-high-among-christians-poll-finds
Christian conservatives of this country have given Trump an immorality pass. He can talk about casinos in Gaza or lie about Epstein and they will still cheer him. Bomb Iran, violate the constitution on tariffs, it never ends. They keep cheering. It shows that most of them are no different than Bantu that rally to some lousy warlord with a gold plated AK-47. The cult of personality works better on most people than maintaining principles.
As human beings we make judgement calls all the time . . . weighing out out the lesser consequence of choices.
Yes Christian conservatives constantly judge other people and when it comes to Trump they are doing everything they can to not reach the obvious conclusion which is that he is completely immoral and not at all Christian.
But I am curious about your comment regarding secular whites. If you are advocating whiteness, president Trump is probably the best you have at the moment.
I don’t know what you mean by advocating Whiteness.
Trump doesn’t give a damn about White workers as seen by the fact that he is increasing their health care costs while giving tax breaks to the wealthy. Most of his actions amount to headlines on Fox News that his fans misinterpret as drastic changes. For example rolling back some superficial Biden DEI programs that his fans took as an end to Affirmative Action. To end AA would require an act of Congress.
Trump and the Republicans don’t even understand how AA works in academia or how the liberals get around state restrictions. Trump doesn’t like reading and finds such details to be boring. He’d rather drink a Diet Coke and talk about attacking Venezuela.
Most of those women in porn are not rich. Very few stay long enough to make serious money. Many more do end up homeless, in jail or dead through ODs, suicide or even as murder victims.
Those are extreme cases that don’t represent an average. You’re trying to believe that karma somehow gets them.
Most women that do porn or a stint of prostitution still end up married and in the burbs.
Nothing bad befalls them.
Minor prostitution is more common than tradcons want to believe.
This is what happens when you let liberals run the culture and your “minimal government” ideology prevents you from regulating something like porn. Our doofus conservatives don’t even support taxing porn. WELL DAT WOULD BE USING DA TAXES WHICH IS DA SOCIALISM.
Rand and Fox News have turned conservatives into mindless Orcs.
Then, I guess many non-porn people engage in similar activity in the swingers clubs and parties. If women want to live their fantasies that you mention they could get into the swinging scene.
I don’t think most women want to engage in such activities. They may have occasional fantasies but that doesn’t mean they want to act them out.
I think there is an assumption by conservatives that women will take part in orgies and prostitution if Christianity is not there to control them.
I once held a similar assumption until being around secular women. Most women want to get married even if they are bombarded with “sex and the city” type messages. Women are very adept at acting like they are single forever while actively hunting for the right husband. I worked in an office with secular liberal women and they would literally disappear overnight if they found the right man. All their liberal beliefs would go right down the drain if needed. So I met a guy whose family owns a ranch in Montana and I’m moving next weekend. This job is stupid and I was just waiting until I found the right man. I will be dropping this liberal girl persona and I never liked any of you. Good bye bitches, I hated you especially Stacey.
Liberals will never create a TV show that depicts that side of the female.
Reality isn’t favorable to liberalism or conservatism. There is too much in our DNA that causes problems for both sides. Women cannot be molded into what liberals or conservatives desire. Humans survived for thousands of years by women backstabbing each other to get the right man and then keeping him from other women. That DNA isn’t going to change overnight. Their ability to use sex as a tool is also hardwired. Women can signal sexual availability even if they aren’t interested at that moment. They are hardwired to reel in men like fish.
I actually watched some of Max Hardcore films in the 1990s, and he definitely influenced me to stop watching this filth. I also knew a lady who lived in the Tampa Bay Area who did porn, she was married actually, she was a tiny thing but what a body. She told me she had been molested as a youngster by one of her father’s friends. These women generally age terribly IF they survive, many don’t live long, suicide, drugs, alcohol, etc. A commenter on here talked about female pornstars making “easy money?” Look at these girls if they live to 40-50 and they age like white tees. And they don’t exactly make millions or Miss Hartley wouldn’t be dancing in clubs when she was long past it.
Tampa actually has a pretty famous club near the Tampa Stadium where the Bucs play called The Mons Venus, a lot of girls had taxis take them home because of weirdos following them. One night a patron took a huge bite out a dancer’s breast before fleeing the club. I always thought the 2001 across the street was better, at least in the 1980s thru early 2000s, who knows now, haven’t been to a strip club in decades. Believe me, these women probably back then at least were just as attractive as any main porn actress and probably made big money. A lot them actually hated men though, I had one laughing with me how she had overcharged some Arab guys for lap dances. Thing is these girls had to pay the club a certain amount to work there and some of that was used to pay the bouncers, not exactly fair. I imagine a lot of female pornstar’s wages are garnished the same way. A guy name Joe Redner owned The Mons Venus and another club or two back in the 1990s when business was booming. Don’t know how Jewy Redner was or is but he could pass for one for sure.
Divorce is not a crime.
Uhhh nonsense, most of the country believed the trials of such political import that motivation stifled its impact.
And while one may be a felon, they are not barred from running for office. Which was the primary issue — stopping the previous president. No one is applauding any illegal conduct. In their mind as with millions of others — compared to the choices — he would better support their agenda.
Laughing. I won’t get into a debate about anyone’s faith and practice standing — president Trump is a very very very young christian — and woefully out of his depth on matters of faith. But most people acknowledge that he is fact a christian. This politics, not a prayer session. Suppose they had gravitated to a “faith and practice christian”. What would that have gained them politically, nothing as to entry into office. The president and I are miles apart on a host of issues. But one is paramount for me — ending illegal immigration, and shooting Legal immigration in the head until we clean up our house.
No. Not at all similar. If the girl has to choose between two bad boyfriends — then Pres Trump is the boyfriend they chose. However boyfriend is the wrong metaphor. If you want to comprehend the evangelical view of Pres Trump (and this is only my opinion) then you need to look at king Cyrus the Great. Frankly, I am skeptical because that model is before Christ and long before the new covenant. The US in my view, nor most of Europe is a monarchy. But they see him as that model of leadership. Not because he celebrates “jews” but because he has supported the views of evangelicals. And again, I remain skeptical — and it’s dangerous. Definitely rife for disappointments. The US is a political entity and while protected and graced — because our ills deep and wide — they could fade or all out disappear today. Many think it is fading. I think we are in trouble as nation.
Congress is not going to take on white women, and white same relational practitioners. Not on a bet. Uhhh whites know exactly how to get around restrictions and intent, and the law and any number of very nasty gambits they get i
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I am going to have to disagree with your position here — the entire admin is openly pro white — and it is very very strange tp see, but it reflects exactly what most whites think in my view. That why they demolished affirmative action from the start. It is and remains a white dominated program, I was quite shocked to learn that in 1996(?). The original intent never saw the light of day – never. I know it is a convenient trope for whites to drags around and I suspect that most whites don’t know — it’s a program that has benefitted whites the most. DEI, the exact same thing. And trust me, as soon as the whites in white house found out they had gotten rid of a lot of white people, they moved to address that.
The duplicity of whites liberal or conservative, republican or democrat, libertarian or socialist/communist never ceases to amaze. The bizarre self fulfilling prophecy of making sure to do everything to keep the black citizen in some minor position. Whites were all over themselves with recriminations about the middle east and what a mess and the one brown president that indicated a move in another direction — whites liberals, conservatives and liberal nearly eat him up on the spot. He sought to turn the page one of the few positions he held that I thought had real merit. In less than year he was shooting African boats and authorizing the murder of citizens without due process. Uhhh, I am not sure how much pro white one can be. Obama Care was nt Obama care — it was a program designed by business that destroyed the healthcare care plans of millions — white’s got their way as they routinely do. Most black people are constantly having to weigh what white people think, in particular if they have to deal with whites. To do otherwise is risky. If Pres Obama had been involved with Epstein, he would have been gone. No gametable is more to the liking of whites than — blacks and intimate conduct with whites.
Whites in Ca took action against AA because enough whites had been in the program in such numbers as to ensure effective white networking. And Hispanics in CA — as with most of the country despite their devastating impact on the US national identify, economy, etc — despite the impact.
Congress is not going to take on white women, white same relational practitioners to end AA. And whites know exactly how to get around restrictions, the rules, barriers, which is exactly why whites are the primary beneficiaries of these programs. AA has not worked as designed because the design never saw the light of day. Sure some blacks have benefitted — but not nearly as many whites.
Well, there’s academia and then there’s elite academia – ‘nough said. They can be as obtuse, mean spirited, disingenuous, duplicitous as the president of the US. I know of at least circumstance in which academia admitted wrong doing and then slapped themselves on the back for the admission and did nothing about the wrong — this went on all the way right up tp the governor’s office. Liberals are no more clean than republicans when it comes tome to ante up and do the right thing.
Yes, and good luck to those that got married and ended up in the burbs. Hopefully those marriages go better than most. There are few that ended up becoming doctors, lawyers and politicians but mostly in more tolerant societies. Mimmy Miyagi turned to politics even in US.
Having been at the end that long speer of righteousness before thinking, none of my comments about – parenthood is a defense of relations with children. That was not might point. But if we are not raising the question about parenting — then forget about protecting teen girls, teen boys. If we are not raising children to make sound healthy choices, if they are to be left on their own to figure it out —-
then community should have no complaints — millions of teens would be delighted to do as they will when they will —-
and community has no cause to complaint.
I have learned some lessons the hard way — and I firmly believe that men have to protect women for two reasons:
1. that’s a mandate
2. women have not learned to tale responsibility for their choices – and protecting them is protecting one’s self.
The girls involved in the Epstein issue are now grown women and not one has said — I did it of my own volition and I was wrong.
That is a very unhealthy societal disposition — and feminists stand front and center in fostering that condition.
I make no such assumption. A bit of paranoia there perhaps? Secular Whites are no more a problem in Washington than any other people group. However, in the context of the OP, since Trump is a secular White and I would hazard a guess that a sizeable percentage of Epstein’s client list is White (and secular judging by the inherent sexual immorality of the thing), I would certainly be including secular Whites as part of the problem.
But that’s going off the reservation a bit. The evil inherent in the Epstein affair is evil regardless of who’s involved and is a problem that needs to be dealt with. We can’t have our entire political class tainted with the scandal, or have the rest of the world believing that our politicians are easily cuckolded by lures of sexual exploitation. Who would ever know for sure if their member of congress was compromised in this way, who could anyone trust in Washington to take a clear moral position on anything? Black, white, brown, it matters not. What matters is morality and trust, and the whole sordid mess has put that at serious risk.
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I don’t disagree with this, if we were talking about women in general from fifty years or even thirty years ago. In the feminist world of today, the era of my body my choice Yugo Girl empowerment, and the massive opportunities the internet and webcam technology to trumpet how strong and independent such women are out to the world, provides to empowered attention-seeking teenage girls (i.e. all of them) teenage girls, we need to consider how porn is treated in the current time. And reality shows that a porn experience is treated as a rite of passage or sorority credential in the first instance, and a supercharged status symbol promotes by all those star-addled attention-seeking career-boosting sex-tapes from some years back. Heck, even mainstream sites like IMDB include porn ‘acting’ as legitimate bio profiles.
And then there’s OnlyFans. To explain that phenomenon would require me to enter into that sordid world which I have no intention of doing. All I can say about Only Fans is that it has tapped into the attention-seeking money-grubbing prostituting appetites of your average girl in the burbs. Some OnlyFans girls make millions prostituting themselves from the confines of their home bedrooms. Sure they don’t do anything physically with their Johns but that makes no difference, they are prostituting themselves and completely by choice. Granted, only a few of the more attractive and adventurous girls will get rich off it but OnlyFans and others like it have created a whole new generation of prostitutes and an epidemic of prostitution in the burbs, with all of the financial boosting that BigTech can pump into the market. And it is is widespread and everywhere and attractive to all women who want to see themselves as sexy and attractive (i.e. most of them.) The OnlyFans phenomenon puts to bed the whole notion that girls who do porn are rare, or being abused. Completely to bed. They do it because they not only want to, but because feminism has told them they are completely free to express whatever base desire they can lump together with YugoGirl empowerment, and because there are no moral restrictions on their behaviour.
So there’s the link you were referring to earlier, just by an updated and more realistic route.
This is actually meant as a reply to Jackabond but due to some broken HTML I can’t reply to that one ….
Good to know, but that makes me curious what drives you to write that Muslims view all nonbelievers as the enemy. The worst treatment is for Muslims who abandon the religion (as opposed to those who never believed in the first instance), which is akin to the Jewish treatment of apostasy. Though Judaism is extremely draconian, see e.g. 17 Deut. 2-7, and as Deuteronomy is “officially” part of Christianity, the punishment from the Church for apostasy was often death as well. The fact is that outside perhaps Saudi Barbaria (or more generally the anti-human Wahhabist sect, which trains terrorists to hate in their “madrassas“, all with the approval and support of the “Christian West”), nobody imposes the death penalty for apostasy. I don’t consider Wahhabism to be Islam and it would be most deceitful to equate Wahhabist views – which stem from the House of Saud, which the West obviously put into power after defeating the Ottoman Empire – with Islam.
When your faith tells you only you are right and everyone who believes otherwise is wrong, well, that is the definition of pomposity and arrogance. It is possible to have faith without believing you have some monopoly on the truth. For example, you may believe Jesus is the Son of God, or is God, whatever you make of the Trinity, but that doesn’t mean that you have to believe Muslims are wrong in believing Jesus was “merely” a prophet. It is possible, in other words, to respect different faiths and beliefs and not to postulate the infallibility of your own beliefs/faith.
The point I am making is that the Islamic logic regarding unbelievers is similarly “logical”. The problem is that logic follows from predicates, and if you don’t agree on those, it matters not one bit whether or not the conclusion is “logical”.
There are many references to what people call “Hell”, and a number of passages actually use the word “hell”. See e.g. here and here. In particular, Matthew 25:46 speaks of “eternal life” vs. “eternal punishment”; Revelation 20:10 refers to the devil being thrown into “the lake of fire and sulfur” to be “tormented day and night forever and ever”; Matthew 25:31-46 refers to those who do not help others (by e.g. not feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, not visiting the imprisoned) as those who will “go away into eternal punishment”, which in Matthew 25:41 is akin to “the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels”; Matthew 5:29-30, 10:28, 16:19, 18:9, 23:15, 23:33, which actually use the word “hell” (in the context you would expect); etc., etc.
Since so many girls are into Only Fans and Web camming, I can’t see that there are enough guys with time and money to support them all. Who is watching them all to provide their upkeep? Is it some rich Arabs with nothing else to do but fiddle with their worry beads, scratch their balls and chew pistachio nuts? Or maybe the rich Jews who run internet companies are subsidising them all via AI bots posing as viewers? Maybe these stupid girls think they’re popular and getting attention when in fact they’re talking to AI bots generated by internet moguls to promote this lifestyle and their companies.
Yet they still find some man to blame for turning to porn. There’s these porn stars talking how they were “pimped” to work as web cam models by some guy and then later progressed to doing porn.
Most of the porn stars who stay a long time in the business and do make lots of money are Jewish. I suppose they operate like a Jewish mafia getting most of the lucrative jobs/contracts for themselves while Christian and some Muslim (like that Mia Khalifa) girls are exploited, underpaid or ripped off and discarded after a few movies. Of course the Jewish bosses who operate these companies and sites give preference to their own and would not rip them off or underpay them. I mean if there is money to spread, they’d rather give it to their own. I suppose there are exceptions, like with everything, but this is how it mostly goes.
Australia is a joke- soon it will be paying HUGE reparations to Israel and children beginning in Grade 1 will study Anne Frank’s Diary.
Listen to what Max Igan has to say about what goes on in Australia and the wider Israel project.
https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=320470
Not sure about this. Obviously respecting another faith is possible without accepting it for oneself, but I don’t see how one can be serious about any faith without believing it to be the only true path. Unserious or nominal beliefs maybe, but in every main religion I can think of, for serious practitioners to accept that any other faith is viable would compromise the theology of that religion at some point even the most universalist religions. I’ll have to think on that a bit more.
With regard to the ‘hell’ question, the English word ‘hell’ is a generalized translation of four different concepts from the original Bible languages – Sheol from Hebrew, and Hades, Gehenna and Tartarus from Greek and none of these seem to apply specifically as eternal punishment for unbelief.
The Hebrew word Sheol appears in the Old Testament and refers to the place where the dead reside, without specifically denoting punishment or reward e.g. Psalm 16:10, Eccl 9:10, cf. Acts 2:27.
The Greek word Hades is used in the New Testament as the equivalent of Sheol. It generally refers to the realm of the dead rather than a place of torment after judgement e.g. Lk 16:22-23, Rev 20:13-14. The latter verse shows that Hades is destroyed, therefore it is a temporary holding place for the dead before final judgment.
The word Gehenna comes from the Hebrew “Valley of Hinnom” (Geh-Hinnom), a place outside Jerusalem where garbage and corpses were burned. Jesus used this word to describe the final punishment of the wicked e.g. Mt 10:28, Mk 9:47-48.
Tartarus is used only once in the Bible and refers to a place of deep imprisonment for fallen angels, not for humans (2 Pet 2:4).
Of these four original Bible language words for Hell, Gehenna is the only one that describes eternal torment or separation from God and it clearly referring to people who don’t believe Christ is God as you asserted earlier. In any case, some theologians argue that an eternal place of human torment would be a torture for God, who loves even the most wicked person, which is why I said earlier that some people believe Hell exists and some people don’t. For me, it’s convenient to see Hell as the spiritually barren place before I came to faith, and more importantly a place to be wary of in my faith journey moving forward.
Sorry, there’s a typo in my last paragraph above. It should read “ it clearly ISN’T referring to people who don’t believe Christ is God as you asserted earlier.”
An important correction, I should think!
Well BACK to bidness. Trumpstein, Clinton, and MANY others are GUILTY OBVIOUSLY. AND OBVIOUSLY THE Jews did 911 and JFK. So is America going to look the other way on this one again.You can bet ShlEpstein will be ringing in the New Year in a less than a week as well.
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What do you mean by “serious”? To kill and die for it? Maybe you shouldn’t? If you don’t permit the possibility that you are wrong, again, that is the definition of arrogance and pomposity. It’s also dangerous. Nobody is infallible. Even Jesus had second thoughts as he was crucified. Matthew 27:46.
it’s healthy to always cast a critical eye on your own beliefs, and faith, and one can only do that if one dispenses with the presumption of one’s own infallibility. After all, you (or at least the vast, vast majority of folks) only have your faith b/c you were taught it as a child before having critical capacity to question it. “It just happens” that your parents were right about everything and everyone else’s wrong about everything (and everyone else thinks likewise). Uh-huhh.
What the heck are you fabricating here? I gave you specific quotes re: “eternal punishment”, “eternal fire” and being “tormented day and night forever and ever”. That’s just disingenuous.
If you can selectively ignore multiple consistent texts of the Bible b/c you don’t like them, well, that seems to undermine the Bible in its entirety. But of course people do that all the time. There’s enough contradictory text that anyone can believe almost anything and attribute it to the Bible. Another reason not to believe in the infallibility of your own particular vision.
Well since Christians believe Jesus is God (the Trinity), 17 Deut. 2-7 answers the question, and it quite directly commands you to kill the disbeliever, even if it is your wife, your son or your father.
Of course, I don’t believe anything in the Old Testament, I think it’s vile crap, but the vast majority of self-professed Christians believe in it. It’s their “infallible” “faith”.
If your faith is so infallible, does that mean you follow such commandments? Or maybe there is room for doubt in this one? And maybe others too?
Divorce is not a crime.
I didn’t comment on his divorce. That was a different poster.
I don’t think we can exclude candidates based on divorce. That is unrealistic and there are cases where the spouse is 100% at fault.
I won’t get into a debate about anyone’s faith and practice standing — president Trump is a very very very young christian — and woefully out of his depth on matters of faith. But most people acknowledge that he is fact a christian.
A young Christian who can’t name a single Bible verse? Is that his 8 year goal? To memorize a single verse?
I could cite Bible verses at age 4. That’s the norm in some areas.
I actually doubt most people acknowledge he is a Christian. Polls show that most Americans don’t like him.
More likely answer: Trump pretends to be Christian for political reasons and is too lazy to memorize even John 3:16. But way to fall for his image.
I am going to have to disagree with your position here — the entire admin is openly pro white — and it is very very strange tp see, but it reflects exactly what most whites think in my view.
Trump is pro-Israel and pro-wealthy.
That why they demolished affirmative action from the start.
Affirmative action has not been demolished.
AA was created through the 1965 Civil Rights Act and is enforced through the EEOC.
https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/guidance/cm-607-affirmative-action
It can only be removed through a vote by Congress.
Obama Care was nt Obama care — it was a program designed by business that destroyed the healthcare care plans of millions — white’s got their way as they routinely do.
The ACA is actually modeled after Romneycare which was a conservative think tank creation.
Call it what you want but Trump’s changes will increase health care costs for middle class Whites. There are Republicans that have acknowledged this and I can source them for you.
Why give George Soros and Tesla a tax break while increasing health care costs for Whites? How is that pro-White? Do explain for us. Also explain how an increase in the military budget is pro-White when the employees are disproportionately minority.
Why thank you, Old Sport. Judging by your fine, sophisticated comment history, good wishes are an improvement on your usual fare. Merry Christmas to you also!
By the way, the modern concept of ‘gentlemanliness’ has its origins in Courtly Love, a sexually immoral corruption of the chivalric warriors code by Eleanor of Aquitaine that was intended to hide the sexual infidelities of the ‘ladies’ in her court behind a veil of so-called chivalric ‘honor’. Western culture has inherited this corruption as ‘gentlemanliness’ and completely buried the original warriors code six feet underneath it as if protecting a sexually immoral woman from the corrective consequences of her own bad behavior is a good thing. Your ‘gentlemanly’ attempt at Eleanoric irony is commonplace, notwithstanding the little shaming twist, but it’s little more than feeding the normalization of turning a blind eye to women’s sin and leaving them up the creek without a paddle, morally speaking. There’s nothing merry or Christian about that.
Since so many girls are into Only Fans and Web camming, I can’t see that there are enough guys with time and money to support them all. Who is watching them all to provide their upkeep?
Something about the interactive aspect taps into male brains that desire a companion. Kind of a porn/pseudo girlfriend combination.
I know someone who got addicted to some type of interactive sex chat for a period and spent a lot of money. I’m not sure how it works but it sounds like they can shake men out of their money like a strip club.
I completely support regulating such businesses but our cowardly conservatives won’t even use the T word for a garbage industry like porn. We could tax porn to pay for pro-natal programs but conservatives won’t consider the idea. They have been completely beaten into not crossing the regulation line.
If I misattributed a comment to you — it was unintentional.
As I read n one need memorize a single verse or recite a single verse to become a faith and practice believer in Christ. I am nor\t sure why you introduce this particular idea. But I am in no position to determine someone faith and practice. As I understand it the president has acknowledged that Christ is savior. In my view of evangelical practice, he is a very very young christian — and I may e stepping ot of bounds — even suggesting he is out of his depth on scripture. But based on his statements, I am inclined to take his views with a good deal of care.
Being liked is not a requirement for being a believer. I have some serious questions whether hs expressed beliefs and are reflective of Christ. Faith is something tha is not static, people can and do change radically — what would atter is what the people of hs articular congregation and that congregations leadership, pastors, etc. think and even then – there’s a persons view and there’s Christs. If as Christ indicates a life after ad I get there –I might be very shocked at who else is there.
I would make this distinction sometimes faith aligns with politics and governance, sometimes not. But the governing entity for people of faith and practice of Christ — means he runs the show. But that show cannot be imposed by way of government. God may tell one x, that does no by definition mean that x can be instituted by government. I was looking at the epistle of james the other day — it is one of most brutal passages of admonition — bridling the tongue and coarse language, etc. It is absolutely scrubbing. But that does not mean, I can endorse government abuse of authority for someone’s language. As tempting as it may be — I cannot promote the arrest of someone for their expression even though such conduct is frowned upon by scripture.
Your reference to the Mass plan known as Romneycare is accurate, and the national plan written instituted for a particular state was guided by insurance companies and made even more business friendly at national level. As I recall president Trump actually prefers a simple government plan. Which is the direction that I think Pres Obama preferred.
And if it ended the murder of children in the womb or out — I would support a government proposal — but those caveats about government doctors determining when to terminate a life at said age — very discomfiting. Anyway,
Uhhhhhh, I have not made any comments regarding the president’s changes in this discussion. And I would bot be the least bit surprised that said changes will increase business profits. No one has explained or tackled why a plastic spit cup costs twenty dollars per or more. Healthcare huge business.
“Why give George Soros and Tesla a tax break while increasing health care costs for Whites? How is that pro-White? Do explain for us. Also explain how an increase in the military budget is pro-White when the employees are disproportionately minority.”
This is a peculiar series of questions. I don’t recall defending tax breaks for the upper tiered income brackets. I have made my positions that indicate the admin is pro-white and openly so. Uhhh, the system as it now exists benefits whites. Study after study after study reveals that depite comparable incomes, service plans the black population is charged more for commensurate care. It’s stunning that year afer year the studies indicate the same dynamic. The WH has not addressed that – so its a safe bet they won’t — they will continue to leverage the system in favour of whites. But as to healthcare price increases — I don’t think there is any evidence that whites are being singled out for an increased price.
I am not going to pretend her for you. The Us military’s legacy of discrimination against black entrants and soldiers is plainly written. The current admin is attempting to purge that history by literally removing it. That by doing so they can make claims that there was no discrimination past or present lingering. That the hurdles for blacks did not exist. That the military itself was one of the most powerful racially pro-white entities in the US, right up there with the law enforcement. They are quite openly removing that record of discrimination and the extra efforts made by blacks to overcome it. That by definition as policy is active racism. It’s a very strange endeavour — but I think a policy of what our institutions really are is better than the facade’ not entirely, but certainly more honest.
As fo who benefits I think the numbers speak for emselves.
“Almost three-quarters (72.9%) of selected reserve members (563,366) self-identify as White, while approximately one-quarter (27.1%) of selected reserve members (209,544) self-identify with a racial minority group (i.e., Black or African American, Asian, American Indian or Alaska Native, Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander, Multi-racial, or Unknown). Regarding ethnicity, 15.4 percent of selected reserve members self-identify as Hispanic or Latino. The majority (99.1%) of the selected reserve is located throughout the United States and its territories.”
https://news.usni.org/2023/11/29/department-of-defense-2022-demographic-profile
No one has to have a master’s degree to figure what is happening behind the scenes. You don’t need a HS diploma. The hot air about DEI and AA will be used to look at test scores ad start weeding out hose men and women of color who fall below a certain standard — even if they meet the proscribed standard. There will claims in the officer corps that because black officer may have graduated from black universities, that said universities themselves are deficient — and either start purgings, stop recruiting from said populations or both / Which is why the president came out of the gate bad mouthing black technical schools.
Those geniuses in the president’s “kitchen cabinet” are not fooling anyone. laugh.
Well since Christians believe Jesus is God (the Trinity), 17 Deut. 2-7 answers the question, and it quite directly commands you to kill the disbeliever, even if it is your wife, your son or your father.
Of course, I don’t believe anything in the Old Testament
I don’t see how you can claim to be a Christian and call the Old Testament vile crap.
Proverbs and Psalms are central to Christian teachings on morality and wisdom.
The problems are really with the first 5 books that overlap with the Torah.
By ‘serious’, I mean a deep and sincere commitment to their faith, actively integrating their religious beliefs, such as loving God and others, into every aspect of daily life. It is a life of discipleship and transformation, not merely a casual association or identity. That includes seeking to understand the deeper implications of one’s faith, particularly in respect of the beliefs of others while holding firm to the normal convictions of one’s own faith.
I agree agree entirely with the first part but not necessarily the second. I say not ‘necessarily’ because there’s a difference between the infallibility of God (and by Christian association his son Jesus) and the infallibility of one’s own beliefs. Men’s beliefs are inherently fallible, yet god isnot. That, in essence, is the point of having a religion, so one’s own errors and mistakes can be corrected without dire consequences.
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I’m not fabricating or ignoring anything. I’m digging into the Scriptures more deeply to try to understand your perspective. The English language is often a poor translation of the Biblical message which was originally formulated in Hebrew and Greek so the logical place to look is the original languages. I have a graduate degree in theology so am accustomed to doing this whenever there’s a dispute about what the Bible actually means. Even though my knowledge of Hebrew and Greek is woefully inadequate going back to the original languages helps us to understand things that didn’t translate well into English. There are clearly nuances here that shouldn’t be ignored if we want to come to a mutual understanding about what the Scriptures were originally about. I hope that’s your goal also.
This is a very good point. There are contradictions in the Bible, some apparent, some real, many of which are down to errors in translation, but some which are still unresolved. That’s why we study things like literary genre of the books of the Bible, their cultural context, the age in which they were written, by whom and why they were written, etc etc. This in only an introductory list of ways serious Christians (and I hope serious adherents of other established faiths) grow in the understanding of their own faith. Even if one believes their religions are complete, Man’s understanding is not, and Man’s tendency to err is everywhere.
I don’t know any serious Christian who believes in the infallibility of their own belief or vision. If such a person was teaching that in my church, I would rebuke them soundly, starting with Romans 7:15. How do they know that their understanding is correct? How do we know if the understanding of the Bible translators was correct? Gosh, just look at the sheer number of Bible versions out there, and the number is always increasing. Man is fallible, so are his visions, beliefs and interpretations. God alone is infallible. But, and that’s a big BUT, faith in Christ requires commitment and acceptance of the fundamental truth held by Christian orthodoxy, despite the inconsistencies one comes across in one’s own examinations of the faith.
What I’m saying is that it’s a GOOD thing to examine the details of one’s believes. For some reason you seem to think I’m saying it’s not. Why, I don’t know.
Sure they don’t do anything physically with their Johns but that makes no difference, they are prostituting themselves and completely by choice.
It is prostitution and the men that do it are saps. They are paying a premium for vicarious prostitution. They don’t even get to touch the women. Pathetic.
The OnlyFans phenomenon puts to bed the whole notion that girls who do porn are rare, or being abused. Completely to bed.
Yes and along with the theory that pimps or drug pushers talked porn stars into doing it.
Tradcons are still clinging to the idea that women need to be protected and the naughty ones have been corrupted by bad men or satan.
It’s analogous to the liberal view that minorities are all innocent by nature and bad White men or White society corrupted them.
A belief that a huge part of the population is naturally good. It is Eden type idealism. Society would be much better if (group) was allowed to be in their natural Eden state.
The laws of Deuteronomy are part of the old covenant of Moses that was rejected by Christ for the very reason that God does not want people to treat others that way. Christians are to treat people with agape love, which is the relationship between subject and object that builds worth in the object. We look back at the Deuteronomic laws for Christian perspective, not instruction in what to do.
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-hegseth-woke-democracy-military-dei/
By labeling all things black to DEI and AA they can justify their removals. They like so many actually believe that AA and DEI resulted in some kind of black deluge of lesser than in every aspect if US life. They actually believe like so many here that standards were lowered for blacks —
wrong on countless fronts.
But if you really and honesty want to look at the changes — it’s always going to be women. In my view the military’s job is to fight – period. It is not a social welfare program despite its contribution to improving the lives of countless with a multitude of self and professional development training.
But the overriding view in and out of the military’s is reflected in its leadership and general population. And the over riding majority despite lip service we accept the myth that purging blacks is better for the country. Sounds harsh — but US history is a tell. And when it comes to scapegoating blacks are the first choice. So I spend several decades whining about AA and blacks. Attack the matter on all fronts.
Now in the meantime some actual improvements are garnished by other means — but the focal point is on blacks with the following circle game — see, once we got rid of those blacks it got better. That is the US and that is her history. Doesn’t make whites necessarily bad — just to uninformed to take the harder road.
We’ll see. But I have never seen any programs that was not in the end a bonus for whites. You press this question:
who benefits from increased military spending
white owned, operated and staffed corporations, who already leveraged AA and DEI to their own stead and are still hiring illegal immigrants —- And you and I both know you don’t need a research project to know how this works. Good grief, VP Vance is front and center from that philosophical disposition. Remember his claims about whites not joining the service because whites are not respected at home (in a nutshell). “hillbilly eulogy” is a wall to wall white whine aimed at the curtailing anything gained by blacks —
The reality is that blacks have a fight on their hands, but at least the plays are more visible.
Here’s the playbook
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/remembering-president-wilsons-purge-of-black-federal-workers
Michael Tracey’s reporting has shown that the source for this hearsay quotation, originally printed in a Miami newspaper, is likely Steve Bannon.
Tracey also found that Acosta has directly denied the above quotation. Yet you write as if there were no hearsay, and Acosta admitted it, or something.
Epstein and Maxwell were obviously Mossad, British and/or CIA agents or non-official-cover assets. But sloppy reporting will get you twisted up in a “I don’t know who’s j*wing whom anymore” result. The same goes for listening to your homely heroine, Whitney Webb.
Now I am not saying you’re wrong, Old Sport, as I have never researched the subject, however, this is what I found online from what seems like a reputable site:
So basically “gentlemanliness” was originally considered a Plebian trait, and then, well, at some point it was expected in all men. I don’t see a problem with that. You have to understand, I do not believe I “turned a blind eye” to women’s sin. No, I am well aware of it, I would consider it more… grading on a curve.
You see, I am a fan of women, and I hold the rather controversal opinion on this site, that God did an excellent job in creating them!
Are they perfect? Certainly not, but I do not have the same high expectations for their behavior as I do for men’s. Why would I? They aren’t as smart as we are, nor were they gifted with our (local company generally excepted) logical nature.
In my late 50’s now, the one thing that I have noticed about women is that they are basically a direct reflection of the men around you, a community of loose women is a result of a community of weak men.
That’s a rule to which I have yet to see an exception.
I think your rule is reasonable, as is your approach to gentlemanliness as far as the Plebian understanding goes. Unfortunately, we can’t in modern day exclude the corrupting effects of Courtly Love as it permeates every part of the Western chivalric mindset. If the Historical Context you found on that website (which sounds quite reasonable) was all there is to it, i.e. as an uncorrupted honor code, which had its origins by the way in Christianity, fine, but that simply isn’t the case.
Please don’t confuse my desire to hold women accountable for their bad behavior as not being a ‘fan’ of women. Although since ‘fan’ is short for ‘fanatic’, which I most certainly am not, but I think you mean you ‘like’ women, which I most certainly do. Moreover, I love women, not just the women in my family in a familial sense, but also generally in the Christian sense, which is not fanaticism or mere liking. It’s a desire to see women presented holy and blameless before God with appropriate rebuke and encouragement from the Bible. In the context of this thread, that means strong and relentless rebuke for the porn girls who do it voluntarily.
The naughty ones have certainly been corrupted by Satan, as all of us are prone to be if we don’t remain vigilant. Satan is prowling around like a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour. Satan does have agents in the world who do his dirty work for him, in prostitution it would be women moreso than men. Men do provide a market and so are also contributing to the porn-girls corruption, but women gleefully exploit men’s hypersexualized state and lack of self control where sex is concerned, especially with webcams where there’s no physical contact, and do it for their own wicked reasons so that part of it is entirely on them. Women would still want to sell if there were no men buying. Every man in his right mind knows this to be true.
I should also add that the Zionist-led West-weakening weapons which have been induced through Hollywood, advertising industry, feminism, Big Tech, and by association the Only Fans phenomenon, have had a profoundly corrupting effect on Western society. A weakened West is an easily conquered West, and that plan has been in place since the earliest days of Hollywood, Wall St, the City of London, Silicon Valley and Madison Ave.
This is a very interesting question. Who indeed? I have little doubt that a sizeable number of their client base are foreigners who simply don’t have access to that kind of thing at home, but I would say that the vast majority of clients are the younger generations of men who have been locked out of the dating market because of unrestrained hypergamy brought about by feminist empowerment.
Most women these days regardless of their attractiveness seek the top 20% of men. Many are happy to share than to settle for a lower status man. The nuclear power women have to accomplish this is their sexual allure, and if they have it they will use it to the full extent they can.
What better way to use it to make money than to sell it to the nameless, faceless men who have always fawned and drooled over their flesh but who would never have a chance with them. The girls get to tap the bank accounts of those foolish simpish men and make them pay per sordid glimpse, without the girl ever needing to see them in return. The girls have a name for their nameless, faceless Johns – incels. Involuntary celibates. There’s the client base – the 80% of men under a certain age who live in America and can’t find a decent girl. Tempted Christians included. White men, of course. Arabs and other foreigners, no doubt. It’s a much more widespread market that one might assume.
I feel sorry for you. But you didn’t answer my question: if your faith is so infallible, would you kill your mother, sister and daughter if any of them didn’t share your beliefs?
So if your beliefs are fallible, it follows, obviously, that your belief that God and Jesus are infallible (or actually exist or existed, let alone the Trinity) is also fallible. In fact it would be absurd to argue otherwise, but zealots do anyway, since by definition logic is not their forte.
They are (were) dead languages and nobody knows what they “really mean” (well, aside from those who believe they are “infallible”, lol). But, the “eternal punishment” part is quite clear and I doubt that is a translation issue, there is far more nuance/ambiguity in other words.
Just go back to how our conversation started: with your vitriolic and false proclamations about Islam and your similarly false contradistinction of Christianity (all despite the obvious history of Christians having murdered untold millions of “infidels” and “savages”, let alone their barbaric internicine warfare and violent inter-sect rivalries – “you will know them by their fruits” ring a bell? well it applies to all beliefs, doesn’t it?). Maybe stick to your idolization of Christianity, which you obviously know, and stop with your slander of Islam, which you obviously don’t know?
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Not sure i gave you adirect answer. The number of whites in the US military make up rougly 2/3 of the demographic. Who benefits from the increases besidea white business owners about 2/3 of the US military.
So that’s what this is all about. I said nothing vitriolic, I merely stated that Islam is fundamentally adversarial. You’ve clearly reacted out of all proportion to what may be a simple misunderstanding on my part or an unhelpfully shallow view of Islam, and you’ve been unrelentingly adversarial and vitriolic about it. Looking back, it looks like a whole lot of Christianity bashing. If what I said about Islam is false then by all means correct me from the Q’uran just as you’ve presumed to do with the Bible. I have a copy on my bookshelf. But I have to say that so far your own behavior is proving me right.
Men on here complaining about women but it is men who ENTHUSIASTICALLY degrade these women in porn. Men on here talking about “training” women to be more ladylike. LMAO. These type of men are like the Jimmy Swaggarts of the world and can be the biggest freaks out there, oh, and it is not just Christians, it’s tons of kike rabbis (one owns a porn site), atheists, etc. Went to school with a girl whose father was arrested for soliciting other queers at a local park known for this sort of thing. It is men banging chicks so hard it could be considered assault and battery in a court of law. Men need to “train” their women? ROTFLMMFWAO. Gawd, that’s pathetic.
And back to the ARTICLE, Trump, Clinton, a host of kikes, Bill Gates, Prince Andrew and tons of others are GUILTY.
I feel sorry for you. But you didn’t answer my question: if your faith is so infallible, would you kill your mother, sister and daughter if any of them didn’t share your beliefs?
You were asking a different poster.
I’ve actually pointed out many times how Christian leaders pick and choose from the OT. What they are doing is selecting verses that support political beliefs.
I don’t have any problem with someone ignoring all the laws for Israelites.
I think they can be interesting in a historical context but no not need to be the basis of morality in Western society as so many conservatives seem to think. The Romans had laws against stealing and murder that didn’t require putting the 10 commandments in their government buildings.
I suspect that before OF most women in “hardcore” porn were heavily coerced, at least in America. Some were not, but most probably accepted it as part of their lot in life. There were always women who extolled the money and empowerment associated with sex work, but I think they are the exception.
It was a surprise when I found this Wikipedia entry on “In like Flynn”. The phrase has been widely used in Australia to refer to quick and easy sexual conquest. This usage is usually attributed to Errol Flynn’s movie star good looks and irresistibly charming manner, without any undertones of rape or predatory criminal behavior.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_like_Flynn
There was a lot more to Errol Flynn (1909-1959) than most folk realize. Errol’s father was a Professor of Zoology in Tasmania, Australia, and Belfast, Northern Ireland. I knew a bloke who was Errol’s shipmate when they sailed around the New Guinea islands, where Errol was something of a swashbuckler and contracted malaria, which constantly returned, and was one of Errol’s many serious diseases (a heart murmur and latent pulmonary tuberculosis) which denied Errol military service during the Second World War, when he tried to enlist in all branches of the armed services.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Wicked,_Wicked_Ways
Wikipedia‘s a mixed bag (some excellent articles and some so biased as to be rubbish).
Grokipedia is an AI-generated online encyclopedia, operated by Elon Musk’s American company xAI. The site was launched on October 27, 2025. Its entries are largely generated by Grok, an AI large language model owned by the same company. Articles cannot be directly edited, though logged-in visitors to the encyclopedia can suggest corrections via a pop-up form.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grokipedia
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And that “Muslims see unbelievers as the enemy”. Seems vitriolic to me, par. since it’s a lie.
Pray tell, how so? I’ve debated that false claim with you and used evidence from scripture to back it up, with plenty of actual cites. You, on the other hand, have not provided a single cite to back up your (false) claims.
So quoting from the Bible is now “Christianity bashing”? So let me tell you what is going on here: you denounced Islam as, essentially, virulently hateful (“enemy” implies not just hate but desire to injure) and adversarial, while saying Christianity is pure love. Hence my reference to your “idolization” of Christianity and “vitriol” against Islam. And I used direct cites from the Bible, not generalizations, to make my point that Christianity is not as loving as you romanticize it to be. And your response: I am evil and bashing Christianity. Seriously, dude, now I will make a generalization: what I see is a BLIND and DELUDED ZEALOT, and what I don’t see from you is any of that PURE LOVE.
I don’t make false claims about Christianity, whether pro or con, and the same holds true of Islam and Judaism. I do view Judaism as a fundamentally diabolical ideology because, well, it clearly and unmistakably is judging it purely by its commandments (and its myths, e.g. Noah’s flood and the plagues and the like), and both Islam and Christianity suffer greatly because they are based on that ideology, but both suffer about equally. And both are universalist rather than having the extreme tribe-supremacism/chauvinism as Judaism.
Like Christianity (as I pointed out in our thread – not in “bashing”, as you characterize it, since quoting from the Bible cannot possibly be “bashing”, it is simply fact, maybe facts you don’t like but still facts) Islam has contradictory texts. This page goes through them in great detail; in particular, Qu’ran 60 is on point – you will see many of the quotes, taken out of context by the deceivers, in Qu’ran 60:1-7, but continue to read Qu’ran 60:8-9, and you will see the full context (and material misstatements accomplished by material omissions are, indeed, lies and fraud).
Another perspective of it is here (as in the previous summary I linked, there is no cherry-picking, like you seem to do with Christianity; they recite the “bad” references as well as the “good”). And it’s important to distinguish how the Qu’ran states Allah will treat disbelievers with how Muslims should treat disbelievers, and that from how Muslims do treat disbelievers, which is what your utterly false generalization was about – go yourself to a true mosque and talk to the worshipers as a Christian and tell me, do they treat you like an enemy? And like Christianity, Islam accepts the concept of repentance. But in both religions, disbelievers do not go to heaven (which leaves hell, despite your protestations to the contrary). However, Islam does not incorporate anything as draconian and evil as 17 Deut. 2-7!
They are offered more money in MOST cases for grotesque shit like multiple partners/gang bangs, working with nonwhites if the pornstar is a White female (some White female stars refuse to work with Blacks and certain male porn actors, I saw one during an interview state she refused to work with Ron Jeremy because of his look and some guy named Rocco something because the guy was too rough.) I guess if the rent is paid and some of these girls are in more demand that empowers them, but the low level types probably if to take it or leave it.
I would imagine the internet killed the pornstar the same way “video killed the radio star. “ lol. HOPEFULLY the (((porn industry))) will go extinct. I don’t know what it costs to go into a strip bar with good looking strippers ( not dives with 3 strippers) but for years in Tampa, the ones with hawt strippers were 20 buck cover, 20 per lap dance at least from 1983-2004, from my personal experience. Stayed the same for decades, who knows what the shit cost now. You can’t even buy a value meal without spending 12 bucks for one person.
Back in the 1970s and 1980s the average person the street knew who John Holmes was, Marylin Chambers and Seka, now unless you are addicted to porn, the average person couldn’t name one current porn actor. People who had never watched porn had probably heard of John Holmes.
Flynn was THE existential hero.
The West doesn’t need to be ‘conquered’. It’s committing suicide quite efficiently.
Thanks for the Q’uran references. I’ll look them up and inform myself accordingly. I won’t try to debate their validity here as this OP is about something else and this off topic conversation has gone on long enough. My apologies to the writer and readers for allowing it to drag on.
I’ll finish this discussion by saying that you’ve taken pretty much everything I’ve said in a pointedly adversarial way and continue to do so and you’re projecting that attitude onto me, when that has never been my intention with you. That’s also why I see no point in continuing. For some reason you can’t see it. It’s clear that your purpose is not to understand why those things were said, or my arguments, or in fact to understand Christianity more than you do, but to defend Islam and oppose Christianity in any way the opportunity presents. This proves my point completely. I’m now more convinced than ever that Islam is fundamentally adversarial and indeed that the infidel is treated like an enemy, or at least seen as someone who should be brow-beaten in a petty argumentative way until they submit to erroneous interpretations of what Christians believe. And I have to say the Q’uran is flat out wrong about what Christians believe. This conversation has been oddly similar to a discussion I had with a Christian recently who couldn’t for the life of him accept that Muslims don’t seek peace. I don’t bother talking with him much either.
Thanks for your time and the constructive information about Islam you’ve provided. I’m always interested in learning more about it, as I know many Muslims and count a number of them as friends. But I have to say that you’ve changed my mind about nothing. I hope you’ll be willing to engage in a more amenable and less trigger-happy reactive way next time. It helps to get your points across.
The happenstance of having Albanese, a pile of invertebrate jelly-fish excrement as Prime Miniature serves Arsetralia badly when the local Zionazi elite are bellowing orders. The gelatinous one has invited the Israeli President, Herzog, an active advocate for group punishment in Gaza, hence a war criminal, to Arstralia so that he can kiss his Chosen arse. In response, the Zionazis and their Sabbat Goy stooges have begun demanding that Satan-yahoo itself be invited, so there goes our membership of the ICC. Down and down we go, with rock bottom nowhere in sight.
Encouraged yes, perhaps strongly, and coerced in some cases for sure. Depends how far back you want to go and how individually specific you want to be. But if OF has taught us anything it’s that the main things preventing women from going into some kind of sex-related work is health, safety and reputation. The desire to flaunt their sexuality has always been there, as is the desire to make men pay for the privilege of engaging with them. Feminism has supercharged both of those things and normalized sex work to the point that there’s little or no reputational penalty. Prostitution is often referred to as ‘the oldest profession in the world’ for a reason, and now with feministic empowerment it’s now seen as freedom of expression, acting or simply a home business. Prostitution in America has been normalized because of feminism and the difficulty for young men to find a decent girl these days.
It’s notable that no-one is talking about whether the Epstein girls wanted to be there or not. It’s assumed that they didn’t, or were coerced, but I would hazard a guess and say they absolutely wanted to be there and would do it again if they could. There’s a thriving market for that sort of thing in Dubai for example. The girls are high status and live the high life that most girls desire. I would suggest few of them would do anything different.
Did you just register the words ‘train’ and ‘women’ then stitch together what your imagination conjured up into this Frankenstein idea thinking it bore some resemblance to what was meant?
Michael Tracey’s reporting has also shown a lack of reading comprehension, whether deliberate or not is hard to tell. Acosta did not deny that Epstein belonged to intelligence, he denied having KNOWLEDGE that Epstein belonged to intelligence. which is reasonable, given he would only have had the word of whichever defense attorney (Dershowitz?) had intimidated him with that suggestion. does not qualify as an outright denial. he wasn’t asked if he was TOLD about Epstein belonging to intelligence.
also, pretty sure the quote originally appeared in one of Vicky Ward’s pieces, not the Miami Herald. where did Tracey attribute it to Bannon? i’ve read the Epstein articles on his substack and don’t recall seeing that mentioned. they are fraught with misinterpretation of basic facts that have been publicly reported. i don’t think Tracey is an idiot, but i do think he’s being deliberately obtuse for clicks.
The naughty ones have certainly been corrupted by Satan, as all of us are prone to be if we don’t remain vigilant. Satan is prowling around like a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour.
How far back is Satan responsible for prostitution? Was he making cave women sell themselves for some fresh meat?
It used to be assumed that psychopathy was the work of Satan and now we know there are genes involved:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178921001695
Interestingly it is related to dopamine receptors.
I suspect as more DNA studies reveal certain inborn characteristics there will be fewer cases where Satan is blamed as the cause.
Both liberal and Christian authorities will fret over genetic realities about gender.
They will also reveal that liberals are wrong about race not existing and White men being to blame for everyone. Both Christian conservatives and liberals want to absolve women and minorities for their personal actions. They disagree on whether Satan or White men are the ultimate cause.
I support Christianity but I do not think Satan is at fault when some girl pulls down her panties for cash on OF. I think she wants to buy stuff and would rather do that than work at the mall.
The OF phenomenon may be transitory since the naive women haven’t yet figured out there is an emotional and personal cost to them in the long run (they are not all naive).
I loosely agree with the remainder of your comment but I think you wildly underestimate the degree of coercion of most sex workers. I think a lot of the women in Dubai are probably thinking, “Yeah, this is great life. Besides, it is a lot better than my other option of being raped, beaten and murdered.”
I think teenagers and young adults should be protected against predators, but if they are old enough that Mother Nature says they are ready to procreate, there will always be many who want to have sex. I think the mainstream version of the Epstein story is mostly a nothing burger if the girls are simply “barely legal” and in fact legal in many jurisdictions. Therefore I assume the truth of the story is much worse.
That’s an excellent quality.
Having been on this site for a while, a commonality here amongst the men (and I would estimate that 95% of us are men), is that they hold women to a MUCH higher standard then they hold themselves
So many men here brag about their experiences with women, watch porn, practice interracial sex, (generally with Asians), attend strip clubs and solicit prostitutes. but expect every (white) woman to be a paragon of virtue.
In my humble opinion pornography is a lousy way to make a living, I don’t watch it, and have probably spent a total of 3 hours of my life doing so, feel ridiculously uncomfortable in strip-club bachelor parties, and got married 3 years ago, but “may he who has not sinned, cast…”
These women have made a mistake, nothing more, nothing less, they are caught up in the system that you and I have created… or… at least tolerated. So again, in my opinion, we share in the blame for their careers, ESPECIALLY as Christians.
Now on this one, we will have to differ…
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205%3A17-19&version=KJV
That’s patent projection.
OK, I understand you pretend to have compassion and love, but truly you have no understanding of the concepts, so consumed you are with hatred, arrogance and narcissism.
And even though I’ve been to many Muslim countries and have had many Muslim friends, so I can actually speak from experience instead of ignorant, self-righteous hate, I am not Muslim. If anything I am Christian. But not a hateful, zealous one like you.
Funny.
Satan as a concept entered the religious framework around 600BC, long after caveman times. Since the concept basically means ‘adversary’ and is relative to God, Satan is eternal just like God is. Eternity is outside of time.
Satan by definition is always at fault, since he always seeks to corrupt people. The question then becomes does the girl know what she’s doing is wrong – i.e. is ignorance of sin a valid excuse? That’s a good question. Christianity sees a path to forgiveness for sins of ignorance through Christ, Islam sees sins of ignorance lifted from those genuinely unaware, Hinduism views ignorance as needing enlightenment rather than punishment, in Judaism ignorance of sin is generally not considered a valid excuse.
I think the more pertinent question is whether the OF girls have moral agency. Presumably they’re past the age of consent so they certainly have legal responsibility. But some people argue that women and girls have limited moral agency, especially with things of a sexual nature, in which case consent can’t be given and therefore someone or something is causing the girls to do those things. That’s the basic position people are taking with the Epstein girls, i.e. it wasn’t their fault, they were trafficked BY someone, they were abused BY someone…meaning that they are deemed to have had no say or control over what they were involved in.
This is what misguided chivalrists do. They might not realize they’re basically denying that women have moral agency and the personal responsibility that goes with it. Ironically, it’s also the position feminists take when they say it’s always a man’s fault. Feminists and misguided chivalrists don’t like the idea of women protecting themselves. They seem to want women under their sole protection, which typically results in outraged demands for the special treatment of women as if they have no agency. It’s quite the moral contortion.
The Christian view is that we all have moral agency, meaning that sins cannot be imputed to another. So the OF girls are doing wrong whether or not they know it’s sinful and have personal responsibility for both the act and the consequences. The camera didn’t turn itself on, nor did an OF subscription magically activate, nor did the panties accidentally fall to the floor. Sexual acts outside of the marriage relationship are not something God wants for people, therefore by definition his adversary – Satan – is behind them.
I loosely agree with the remainder of your comment but I think you wildly underestimate the degree of coercion of most sex workers.
I think you wildly underestimate female nature and their ability to use sex to acquire things.
Communism was actually supposed to eliminate prostitution and in Cuba it is one of tourist trades.
Funny.
Satan as a concept entered the religious framework around 600BC, long after caveman times. Since the concept basically means ‘adversary’ and is relative to God, Satan is eternal just like God is. Eternity is outside of time.
I don’t see what you are saying here. Satan wasn’t tempting cavemen and pre-Christian Europeans? They have to learn about him? Is that a rule like inviting a vampire into your house?
What was Satan doing around 10,000 BC?
Satan by definition is always at fault, since he always seeks to corrupt people.
That is speculation. Even if you are certain Satan exists you are speculating on free will and human nature. You don’t know the degree at which Satan interacts with the world. Christian theologists don’t agree and some do not view Satan as an entity that interacts directly with humans.
I would also point out that if there was one God and no Satan then you wouldn’t know the difference.
But some people argue that women and girls have limited moral agency, especially with things of a sexual nature, in which case consent can’t be given and therefore someone or something is causing the girls to do those things.
LOL yes it seems some conservatives still think that women are little bunnies that need to be protected.
What about sociopathic girls? Do they have moral agency over their sexual acts?
That’s the basic position people are taking with the Epstein girls, i.e. it wasn’t their fault, they were trafficked BY someone, they were abused BY someone…meaning that they are deemed to have had no say or control over what they were involved in.
I was not referring to underage girls. That is a separate subject.
The Christian view is that we all have moral agency, meaning that sins cannot be imputed to another.
There isn’t a single Christian view on moral agency. You in fact seem to believe that a woman’s onlyfans webpage can be the result of Satan.
Sexual acts outside of the marriage relationship are not something God wants for people, therefore by definition his adversary – Satan – is behind them.
But humans did have sex for thousands of years before the concept of marriage, correct?
Kind of strange that God was fine with Europeans living in polygamous groups without Christianity for thousands of years and then decided that any sexual act outside of marriage is unacceptable. Why not set the rules for everyone early on?
Gosh I hope so. I sincerely do. The costs are high indeed.
I do understand your point, but coercion by whom? Sex work is today treated like any other job, with benefits, leave, health car etc in most brothels. The law protects sex workers from exploitation, and they have unions to ensure their rights and entitlements are upheld. I’m generalizing of course, there’s very likely some women who fall through the safety nets and they do need our help. But who is coercing an OnlyFans girl to undress for the internet camera in the privacy of her bedroom? I think you’re overestimating the degree of coercion involved, especially with the ubiquity of online webcam services although I don’t for a minute believe that coercion isn’t taking place at some level if the girls don’t run their own show.
I think you’re overstating the danger for Western women in Dubai, although it would certainly be risky for women who prostitute themselves in Arab countries more generally. I used Dubai only as an example. in any case, the women who choose that life are exercising a choice. They have moral agency. They had the wherewithal to go there and put themselves in view of the high class operators in the first place. They’ve decided that the risks are worth it. They’re foolish, but they have personal responsibility for their own actions. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try to keep them from harm.
And even though I’ve been to many Muslim countries and have had many Muslim friends, so I can actually speak from experience instead of ignorant, self-righteous hate, I am not Muslim. If anything I am Christian. But not a hateful, zealous one like you.
I used to be more open to Islam as just another religion until someone asked me to point out a single majority Muslim country in the Middle East that converted voluntarily.
There isn’t one.
Agreed. Personal responsibility is required on both sides – don’t do porn and don’t use it.
By the old covenant I mean rule by Mosaic Law. The new covenant is rule by Grace through faith in Christ. That’s what fulfillment means in the gospel context.
Lots of ankle-biting going on today….
I do understand your point, but coercion by whom? Sex work is today treated like any other job, with benefits, leave, health car etc in most brothels.
That certainly isn’t the case for America. Most prostitution is still on the streets.
But who is coercing an OnlyFans girl to undress for the internet camera in the privacy of her bedroom? I think you’re overestimating the degree of coercion involved, especially with the ubiquity of online webcam services although I don’t for a minute believe that coercion isn’t taking place at some level if the girls don’t run their own show.
I think the bigger problem is with White men that tolerate this retarded society.
That is in part the fault of White Christian conservatives that have DNA-rejecting beliefs on the natures of both men and women. Humans have an evolutionary history. I’m sorry but it is unlikely that satan planted all those fossils.
The Christian conservative solution of denying the primal side of man only favors liberalism. Liberals get free pass to talk exclusively on “the science” and shape culture as they desire. Christian conservatives have to stand in the corner and point their fingers. They can only speak on the basis of traditional morals because they aren’t allowed to discuss DNA. Conservatives end up being the ideal competition for liberals. They never strike at the core weakness of liberalism which is DNA denial. They aren’t allowed for example to question liberal programs that are based on the assumption that race doesn’t exist. That goes outside of their own constraints. I truly do understand the Christian motive and how conservatives think but it just doesn’t work. It just fails against modern liberalism. I’d be more supportive of avoiding subjects like human evolution if it actually worked. I’ve seen it fail first hand and I have seen good Christian men humiliated in public by liberals. I don’t see why God would leave such dedicated men without answers. The more likely answer is that God is aware of evolution and isn’t angry about it.
Agreed. Personal responsibility is required on both sides – don’t do porn and don’t use it.
Yes and this is where conservatism fails.
As if we can just put “be personally responsible” on a t-shirt or something. Well that doesn’t work. Porn addiction correlates with access. The internet has massively increased porn addiction for both genders. In fact it has massively increased access to porn that was once not available in adult stores. In fact there have been some recent studies showing serious sexual identity issues when children are exposed to porn at a young age.
Why should those of us that desire a healthier society not be for taxing porn or onlyfans?
Why not tax some chick that makes millions through legal prostitution?
Cause the minimal government gods will get mad? Oh gosh heaven forbid we tax some 21 year old porn star who planned on buying a second mansion in Maui. DAT WOULD BE DA SOCIALISM!!!
Like I said in another thread modern conservatism turns thinking White men into Orcs that are trained to attack any hint of taxing with a hammer. BUT DAT IS DA SOCIALISM!!! Good doggy, you know to never support taxing anything.
Modern conservatism supports deregulation to the point of allowing drugs and porn to rot society to a completely non-conservative form. What is the point? What are you trying to conserve?
I thought the double entendre was deliberate – prostitute, food, client, fresh meat. My apologies if it wasn’t.
I was talking about the first mention of Satan as a supernatural figure in the Hebrew Bible in the Book of Numbers. Satan the supernatural figure exists outside of time and any attempt to place him inside time (and therefore in specific interactions with people) is certainly speculative. The best we can do is interpret his actions in the world in terms of the adversarial effect it has in relation to God and His will for humans.
Well, that’s logical but I think that’s why the the negative of God, namely the adversarial spiritual power, needed a name and a way to communicate his character – i.e. Satan. To use a cosmological analogy it might be like matter and antimatter, or gravity and anti-grvity. An imperfect analogy to be sure but you get my drift.
That’s a difficult question to answer. From a Christian perspective, I would say that while sociopaths may lack traditional moral agency, they’re not entirely devoid of agency in a broader sense and would at some level be able to recognize the difference between right and wrong. But I would also posit that moral agency is granted to all of God’s image-bearers, exemplified by God’s instructions to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. It may be damaged or defective by whatever mechanism but it is still given by God. I think this is why Mosaic Law doesn’t work, because in our fallen nature circumstances need grace and forgiveness.
No, this isn’t a fact. I believe Satan is active in the world as God’s adversary, and this manifests in any and all actions that act against God’s good plans for each of us. We don’t know precisely how the adversary acts but with experience and maturity we can recognize the evidence of his works. We can do this because they act against the works of God in people’s lives. We can recognize the adversary’s footholds, the strongholds and eventually the strangleholds he has on people, and we can act on breaking them down in partnership with God for the purpose of restoring them back to God. Prostitution is just one in a very long list of the adversary’s works.
He did, but with those humans who were in relationship with him, beginning with Adam and Eve.
“Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh” (Gen 2:24)
Converted to what? When did you convert to “Christianity”? Oh, no – it was forced on you by your parents and society! You poor thing. How will you survive this horror?
There are literally 100s of millions of people who have converted voluntarily to Islam. Who do you think forced the Nation of Islam at the point of a sword on Black Americans? And who forced Muhammad and his disciples to be Muslims? Was it the sword too? Did they force each other?
And who all became Christian “voluntarily”? You think all the tribes in the Roman Empire just gave up their ancestral religion b/c they were so convinced by the metaphysics of the Trinity or the absurdity of the tale of Noah? LMAO. The fact that 1/3rd of Romans were slaves and had to believe as ordered doesn’t play a role either, right? How did Christianity come to the Americas? More of this “Trinity-and-Noah convincing” that the boundless tribes’ ancestral religions were all wrong?
Aside perhaps from Saudi Barbaria, created by “Christians”, no Muslim country forces citizens to be Muslims. So they are all “voluntary”.
Not saying you self-proclaimed Christians are any more hypocritical, arrogant and ignorant than others – just that, unlike your imagined superiority, you are no better either. None one iota. And in the end, you really aren’t Christian at all. You just don’t get it.
According to the authoritative source, the Communist Manifesto, marriage is to be destroyed and replaced with a “community of women”. What do you think that means? I guess the men would share the women without giving the women any commitment or money? Doesn’t seem plausible.
“The Communists have no need to introduce community of women; it has existed almost from time immemorial.” You see, according to Communists, the “bourgeois” (and, obviously, this means the Christian) “sees his wife a mere instrument of production.” And of course the Communists will spare women the tyranny of marriage, of being a “mere instrument of production”. They can just hook on the corner and “live free”.
So, no, Communism was not supposed to eliminate prostitution. Communism was (is) supposed to eliminate monogamy and, most importantly, marriage. That’s what today’s “culture wars” are largely about. What, aside from prostitution, is left, given the dynamics at play? Even incels plus webcams amounts to the same.
They pick and choose shit, mostly from old testament. Notably these evangelists ignore all the “antisemetic” verses in the new testament. The new testament make it clear that the “chosen” is now christians who believe in christ, and jews who don’t (not christian, eg. today israel) are the SoS and adversary of all mankind.
It is important to note that western branch of christianity is corrupted. You don’t see Russian christian orthodox worshipping israel, because they actually read the real bible (not the scofield heresy shit). This is why they ban lgbt propaganda and why they are not slaves of israel.
I thought according to Marx marriage was prostitution. Still, he engaged in it, the hypocrite.
Or that unbelievers are starting to realize that bosonic and hadronic fields form matter under the impress of the Divine Will.
Matter exists to allow the reciprocal transfer of love between Creator and the created.
Luke 16:23. Hades is Hell.
Few people really “get” the Epstein Affair, but this lady does.
It’s not a question of mere criminal (Meyer Lansky) or political (Roy Cohn) blackmail. The Epstein network exposes the mechanism of Jewish World Control.
Take a look at his “guests”: not just politics (Clinton) but entertainment (Michael Jackson), academia (Chomsky), law (Dershowitz), real estate (Trump), science (Stephen Hawking) etc. All these areas of modern civilization have been TAINTED, like a fixed sporting event (Arnold Rothstein).
It’s not just a matter of Jews getting jobs, grants, awards etc. that should have gone to goyim. These Jews are pursuing Jewish goals, Jewish theories, etc. All their kabalistic, tikun olam bullshit passed off as “cool”, “proven”, “up to date” “cutting edge” etc. products of their supposed “super IQ.” Not to be questioned, settled science, academic consensus.
Everything must be questioned, everything must be held to be “Jewish bullshit” until proven otherwise.
Moustache Man said as much, that establishing a Jewish State would not provide a “haven” for the poor persecuted Jews, but rather serve as a world headquarters, training ground and extradition-free refuge for Jewish criminals.
Of course, this is why he is not merely a defeated enemy like Napoleon or Stalin, but THE MOST EVIL MAN WHO EVER LIVED, and anyone even suggesting otherwise must be banned from polite society.
Hyman Roth (i.e. Meyer Lansky): Here we are, protected, free to make our profits without Kefauver, the goddamn Justice Department and the F.B.I. ninety miles away, in partnership with a friendly government. Ninety miles! It’s nothing! Just one small step, looking for a man who wants to be President of the United States [Trump], and having the cash to make it possible. Michael, we’re bigger than U.S. Steel.
And of course, it really is just like that, so what do you do to cope with the cognitive dissonance?
Ah, the old “real” trope. The imprisonment, the torture, the burning alive, all that only looks like the opposite of love, due to the sin distorting your natural vision. To eyes illuminated by faith, it’s “real” love. Sort of like how Christians are “real” Jews.
Moslems deny the validity of any “translation” of the Koran. St. Thomas More, that sweet “Man for All Seasons,” burned alive anyone he caught translating the Bible. Yeah, a real big diff.
In 1290, Edward I expelled the jews from England under immense pressure from the nobility as the jews had used usery to take control of the majority of land and capital. After the jews’ expulsion, England quickly recovered and experienced a golden age until Cromwell let them back in in the early 17th century.
Those jews, who had been thrown out of Spain in ~1497, had entrenched themselves in Amsterdam by then and IIRC this is where we first start hearing that angelic name: Rothschild.
Pee Wee Herman’s Playhouse was pure homosexual grooming for male children.
I generally agree that women use sex in any way they can, but there is still plenty of coercion in sex work as well. OF obviously makes your point since I assume much or most of that content creation is not coerced.
Mayer Amschel Bauer (name later changed to Rothschild), original architect of the Rothschild family fortune, was born in 1744 in Frankfurt, Germany. He allegedly embezzled the family fortune (that enabled him and his sons to launch central banks in the four major European powers of the time) from Prince William of Hesse.
However, if you look at Rothschild portraits and Hesse/Habsburg/Lorraine/Hohenzollern/etc. portraits you can’t tell one group from the other. And it seems beyond incredible that Prince William would have entrusted such a fortune to an unknown Jew of meager means. Or, for that matter, that a money-changer Jew would be named “Bauer” (“Farmer” in German), if you understand anything about Jewish culture.
Most likely the Rothschilds were part of the blue blood/black nobility that ruled all of Europe at that time and converted to Judaism, with the coordination of the House of Hesse and no doubt the rest of the clan. Only genetic testing can confirm/refute.
Thanks for your comment. There are plenty of examples through history of so-called Christians preaching a God they barely understood while acting in ways that were contrary to his commands. Don’t judge a religion by its followers, as they will always disappoint you. Judge the religion by its founders and its principles.
A general note to anyone who wants to criticize Christianity (which anyone is of course free to do, but at least do it in an informed way):
Read the Bible first. Or at least be reading full chapters and books at a time rather than little snippets that support some petty grievance as if they prove anything on their own, or some contradictory thing you’ve read about the Bible sometime somewhere, or some vile act by someone in the name of Christ. The Bible is not a sensationalist tabloid. It’s an active document, meaning it will reveal things previously unknown to the reader, it’s also a reference library, a narrative about who God is and how he wants people to act, a moral history of God’s people, prophetic as well as apocalyptic literature, a source of wisdom, a template for Church (often disputed), and many other things that act together to inform what Christianity is about. It’s also just a beginning, like a high school education. Ever tried debating a high school student about anything? Higher principles need deeper learning. By all means criticize, but do it in an informed and intelligent way if you want to be taken seriously.
People are of course free to rant and vent and snipe if they want but expect to persuade no-one about anything but your own foolishness.
I was talking about the first mention of Satan as a supernatural figure in the Hebrew Bible in the Book of Numbers. Satan the supernatural figure exists outside of time and any attempt to place him inside time (and therefore in specific interactions with people) is certainly speculative. The best we can do is interpret his actions in the world in terms of the adversarial effect it has in relation to God and His will for humans.
Well you seem to speak as if you are an authority on how much Satan influences people.
I’m asking if he influenced prostitutes of 10,000 BC. I’m completely serious. Or we could go to ancient Egypt and ask the same question.
He did, but with those humans who were in relationship with him, beginning with Adam and Eve.
You are saying that Adam and Eve were given rules but lost them or didn’t write them down correctly? Which means humans for at least a hundred thousands years broke the rules due to a lack of proper record keeping?
Just seems a bit peculiar that God would allow humans to live in polygamous relationships for a hundred thousand years and then establish some rules on marriage through Israelites around 1200 BC. Those rules also included dietary restrictions on shellfish, pork and rabbit meat. But Europeans were allowed to eat pork and rabbits for thousands of years and those rules did not apply to them, correct? Why so many separate rules that are delivered to the Hebrews? I honestly don’t see how anyone can claim to be an authority on all these rules when there are disagreements over the exceptions by Biblical scholars.
Your questions are getting a bit silly. You may not mean this but it feels like trolling.
As I tried to explain earlier, with experience and maturity those who are focused on how God works in our lives can recognize his footprints. We can do this because they interfere with the good works of God in people’s lives. That recognition becomes clearer as we become more mature and gain more experience. Obviously faith in God is central to that. Is that ‘authority’, or just the experience and maturity of God-centered adulthood under God’s authority?
No I am not saying that. That’s an absurd proposition on its face. You can read Genesis chapters 2-3 for yourself to understand what was given to Adam and Eve and what they did about it (~1300 words.) As for “writing them down”, who can say? We know that much of the Hebrew Bible teachings were by word of mouth until they formally started writing them down around 500-600BC.
Not sure what “hundreds of thousands of years” has to do with Adam and Eve though. Adam and Eve are figures from the Biblical narrative, which by the latest genealogical chronologies places their creation around 4000 BC. Adam and Eve are the first people to be in a relationship with God, not necessarily the first people to have existed (depending on what you believe). If you want to debate what went on before the Biblical narrative, you should probably do that with a paleo-anthropologist.
What we do know from the Bible narrative is that Satan entered creation sometime after the point of creation, but before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. That could be ‘hundreds of thousands of years, we just don’t know. That means Satan was probably at work in people all that time. I’ve studied a bit of pre-history and the evidence suggests that morality is an intrinsic human attribute that evolved as a social survival mechanism long before written religious texts or formal philosophical systems emerged.
How do you know who lived monogamously or polygamously, other than from the highly generalized anthropological studies? But that’s chasing another red herring.
Who’s claiming to be an authority on anything? I simply have the limited certainties of my faith, combined with limited intelligence, maturity and experience, and a willingness to speak and act on what I understand. Does that trouble you?
As a kid you’d have to have had extremely bad male role models to be pulled into the homo lifestyle by Pee Wee. Then again nowadays we have boys (who probably don’t have a dad) being talked into thinking they are girls by their f*cked-in-the-head mothers.
I grew up with very strong male role models. Whenever I saw queers, how they behaved (though, at the time, not knowing what they did), I just thought of them as being weirdos, as “fruits.” It never crossed my mind was to emulate them.
I feel sorry for the boy whose life was so badly lacking in positive male role models that Pee Wee Herman had any influence whatsoever on him.
As I tried to explain earlier, with experience and maturity those who are focused on how God works in our lives can recognize his footprints.
You said in post #228 that Satan is responsible for corrupting naughty women.
Now you are walking that back into a general Bible lesson after I asked how you would know that is the case.
You don’t know if Satan is in the burbs and getting women to sell themselves on onlyfans. You just don’t.
We do know that a worldwide flood did not happen.
We do know that it is not possible to fit two of every animal into the dimensions of the ark.
Thus we know that the Old Testament is not 100% accurate.
You can stop speaking to me as if I am ignorant. I grew up in the church and I know where they lack answers. I don’t need a Bible lesson. I had Christian authorities get angry with me for asking questions. When you are trying to lecture a kid on what you obviously don’t know then maybe the problem isn’t the kid.
No I am not saying that. That’s an absurd proposition on its face. You can read Genesis chapters 2-3 for yourself to understand what was given to Adam and Eve and what they did about it (~1300 words.)
I have read Genesis and the section on Adam and Eve is very short. They were not given a 10 commandments or rules on monogamy. In fact there is a polygamous marriage right away:
19 Lamech married two women, one named Adah and the other Zillah
So God was fine with two wives at the start.
Not sure what “hundreds of thousands of years” has to do with Adam and Eve though. Adam and Eve are figures from the Biblical narrative, which by the latest genealogical chronologies places their creation around 4000 BC. Adam and Eve are the first people to be in a relationship with God, not necessarily the first people to have existed (depending on what you believe).
So you are saying that God made man in 4000 BC? That would be after the Egyptians.
How do you know who lived monogamously or polygamously, other than from the highly generalized anthropological studies? But that’s chasing another red herring.
DNA studies. There was basically an explosion of certain DNA types in Europe that would require multiple women through either rape or voluntary polygamy.
In other words we know that a small group of men spread their seed to a lot of women.
Who’s claiming to be an authority on anything? I simply have the limited certainties of my faith, combined with limited intelligence, maturity and experience, and a willingness to speak and act on what I understand. Does that trouble you?
Well you were speaking as if you know the devil and how he is responsible for prostitution in the burbs.
I don’t claim to know the devil. I simply doubt he rubs his hands and tries to get women to sell themselves for money. That seems unlikely to me.
You’ll never understand the Bible or the truth it teaches if you keep looking at it like this. I’m done. I’ve enjoyed the stretch.
What ‘truth’? That Noah survived the Great Flood, that Moses parted the Red Sea, that killing Canaanites down to the last suckling babe, along with their animals, is God’s Will etc? That Jews are
God’s Chosen People’?
Jews will never ‘be safe’, a privilege other groups do not enjoy, unless they control EVERYTHING. Which is why they hate and fear China with their habitual psychic fury. I am speaking of the Jews who count, not the common herd, who just enjoy the benefits of their elites’ perennial efforts to subjugate the goyim.
I think the preponderance of evidence is that Epstein got the easy way out. You can see from his smug expression in jail that he fully expected that outcome. See
Video Link
And the Israelis didn’t “kill hundreds” on the USS Liberty. The official casualty total was 34 dead and 174 injured out of a crew of 294. See https://www.dcdave.com/article5/170608.htm.
“We do know that a worldwide flood did not happen.”
That’s not accurate. The evidence just isn’t conclusive.
https://iere.org/is-there-proof-of-noahs-flood/#google_vignette
However,
https://ncse.ngo/yes-noahs-flood-may-have-happened-not-over-whole-earth
https://www.globalflood.org/catastrophic-plate-tectonics.html
You’ll never understand the Bible or the truth it teaches if you keep looking at it like this. I’m done. I’ve enjoyed the stretch.
Translation: You’re asking too many questions and need to embrace the Old Testament without thinking. We teach children it is absolutely true and if they grow up and ask questions then we attack their faith or character. We depict them as bad people for studying history and pointing out where accounts of 1200BC Hebrews have problems.
Then we complain about (White) people not going to church. White men please come to church so we can lecture you on how it isn’t your place to question anything.
And speaking of Israel and the Old Testament, let us not forget Netanyahu’s invocation of Amalek in the wake of the October 7 attack. See https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/11/benjamin-netanyahu-amalek-israel-palestine-gaza-saul-samuel-old-testament/ and
Video Link
It never stops. Trump, it now appears, was ordered to take over Venezuela, in order to silence Maduro, a harsh and relentless critic of Zionist mass murder. I think that this point has purchase. If it was about oil [Donald Duck Trump admitted] then that could have been achieved through trade and favorable terms with Venezuela. In fact, Maduro offered America generous terms for oil export.
But Trump is not driven predominantly by his duties to the American polity, but his obeisance and curtsy to Israel and Netanyajew. “Heel, sit up, speak, roll over, sit, lick my dick, Donald. That’s a good dog”. Zionist Corp International, Inc., the owners and operators of the Great Simulation and Matrix, want total financial control of ALL the oil and the sequestration of the entire wealth of Venezuela.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=maduro+criticizes+israil
When Christofer Columbus made landfall in the Bahamas with this three ships, he encountered the natives who considered land to common and had no notion of private property, but of equal benefit to all. Their life was what has been called communal, shared. But that’s another story and discussion.
Columbus and his civilized values had other ideas. They were tasked and motivated to exploit native peoples for their labor as beasts, divide and capture resources, land, etc., and to remove all manner of wealth back to Spain. Columbus sought glory, recognition, and the imprimatur of his sponsors to spread Christianity. To establish Christianity and promote the institution of slavery. Those with the higher wealth and status are thought to be closer to Gawd.
Founding colonies for exploitation, to expropriate wealth and supply those producing barely more than minimus sustenance. Building large cathedrals for the glory of Gawd is the most important focus, y’know.
“We do know that it is not possible to fit two of every animal into the dimensions of the ark.”
uhhh not so fast,
https://arkencounter.com/about/
OT
100% not accurate about what?
DNA explosion? You mean this? That has nothing to do with rape or polygamy, but migration of an entire people into the region who then intermingled — not necessarily polygamy or rape —
https://wentworthreport.com/2025/01/20/the-dna-revolution-confirms-the-yamnaya-aryan-explosion-as-the-origin-of-europe-and-the-indo-european-languages/
https://www.viralglobalnews.com/2015/06/11/dna-data-explosion-reveals-genetic-roots-of-todays-europeans/
I think you are — over extending what is for what you would like it to be.
That’s not accurate. The evidence just isn’t conclusive.
No it is very conclusive. We would easily find fossils of fish and bones of whales if there had been a worldwide flood in the last 10,000 or even 100,000 years. That is not the case. No one has come across whale bones in Arizona.
We should also find Hebrew DNA in Aboriginals if the flood happened. Their ancestors would be survivors of the ark and would trace back to Israel.
That is not the case and in fact we can trace their DNA back to East Asia.
The flood didn’t happen as it is written in Genesis. Some of us grew up in the church and weren’t thrilled to learn that the Bible has historical problems and it isn’t because of Satan or a lack of faith. No one likes learning that their religion is in conflict with historical evidence. What do you want me to do about it? Lie? Well I don’t think that works and I view Christian conservatism as failing against liberalism to where it serves as favored opposition.
Ummm, no.
Trump, Bondi, et al were all for releasing the files; then Netanyahu came to town and there was an immediate reversal.
It couldn’t have been more obvious.
Marx and Engels believed that traditional systems of property had given marriage a prostitutional character, but that in a future communist society marriage would take on a more natural form, as people would no longer be guided by considerations of property. They expected that marriage in the future would reflect true love in a way that had not been the case so far.
Last year, Alawites greeted the ISIS boss who supposedly liberated them This year, they are protesting. Next year, I want them to be replaced by Uyghurs and Uzbeks.They have bowed down to Trump’s Caesar sanctions and therefore must be killed by ISIS and disappeared from planet earth. They should stand in and show that it is possible to survive with Caesar sanctions. And so last year they greeted the ISIS boss and handed him their weapons. Such fools all deserve death and nothing but death. The world must be cleansed of such foolish people. They have handed over weapons to the enemy and therefore deserve to be killed and their daughters made sex slaves.
https://theweek.com/articles/480019/mysterious-whale-graveyard-discovered-desert
https://gizmodo.com/a-well-preserved-whale-fossil-has-been-discovered-on-a-1732304484
https://japan-forward.com/whale-fossils-unearthed-on-a-mountain-in-akita-prefecture/
https://theweek.com/speedreads/578738/paleontologists-discover-whale-fossil-mountain
https://theweek.com/speedreads/578738/paleontologists-discover-whale-fossil-mountain
You assumptions about where life should end as the result of a global flood based on fossils is another game of the null. The truth is there is no definitive answers regarding a global flood. but it more likely than the conclusion that whales once had legs and wondered onto an African desert.
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https://www.youngearth.com/whale-skeleton
https://www.science-frontiers.com/sf104/sf104p11.htm
https://crev.info/2017/06/ten-flood-evidences-grand-canyon/
I have not advanced that the flood has occurred. I simply acknowledge the evidence is inconclusive.
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As I have stated, the matter of how one responds to Christ is one that a person must wrestle between themselves and God. Thus far, I have not heard a case from you of these discrepancies or historical inaccuracies. What we know about the Earth is that she will transform her features in minutes, Pompie was gone in hours. Mt St Helens, the entire Missisippi River was transformed in hours following an Earthquake. The entire mid west was gutted by a deluge of glaciial waters. The argument that major geological changes requires millions of years is false.
Be these issues as they as they may, the issue is not the OT, the issue ultimately is Christ and that is a personal matter.
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Imagine that or this:
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=is+there+another+pllanet+in+our+solar+system&mid=53AB6F2CA2CCD834F50B53AB6F2CA2CCD834F50B&FORM=VIRE
Discussion of The Flood story might also consider Paul writing in Galatians 4:22 about taking Hagar v Sarah as allegory. If he was prepared to allow that to be allegory how much more then would The Flood story qualify to be allegory.
“21Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24which things are symbolic. For these are [g]the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar— 25for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children— 26but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.”
There is symbolism here — but it’s not relationship between Hagar and Sarah. It’s the dynamic between what man does and what God does via his promise.
Hagar and Sara are acknowledged as real personages.
I hope I understood you — if you not, it was not intentional – merely for arguments sake.
correction:
I hope I understood you — if not, it was not intentional – my comment was not merely for arguments sake.
Putin is buying time, in order to save face and keep the West in suspense. He recently came out in a military uniform and stated that the conflict will be decided on the battlefield in less direct terms. Also, they’re pretty busy trying to build a new parallel political and economic system with China and the global South. The West is already a rotting carcass and playing with dead things is just morbid and weird.
Voting harder is not going to solve anything. Unless and until a party is voted into power that is actually willing to seize the levers of power – think all the major media conglomerates – and then start confiscating the wealth of all the bankers, billionaires, and even centimillionaires. Use the RICO laws or civil forfeiture laws. Or just tax the hell out of ’em and ignore the Supreme Court if it makes any noises. And it can’t just be confined to those of the Hebrew persuasion. No Gentile can be trusted with the power that $100M conveys.
Once power has been effectively seized, then reforms (and investigations) can begin.
Good Lord Man,
I don’t know where you got such information, but you then twisted and spun it around to make it even more convoluted. Plus you imbued it with a visceral personal anger. While some of your accusations sound vaguely true, you have neither grasped the concepts and prove yourself to only have a nodding aquaintance with the facts. It is right to question anything of importance, indeed supremely necessary, but to go off half cocked, while your right, doesn’t serve you in the long run. No need to say more, as it is most likely a futile attempt. I do hope you find peace.
The answer to your question about how and why jews were kicked out of the German Republic and other controversial books can be purchased at
ostarapublications.com
https://theweek.com/articles/480019/mysterious-whale-graveyard-discovered-desert
Well let’s take a look at your first link:
Scientists play detective after 20 “perfectly intact skeletons” of ancient sea mammals are found thousands of feet away from the Pacific Ocean
Whale skeletons were found tousands of feet from the Pacific.
There should be whale skeletons in Arizona if the flood happened. We should find shark skeletons on the sides of mountains.
Let’s have a look at another:
https://theweek.com/speedreads/578738/paleontologists-discover-whale-fossil-mountain
Even more impressive than the whale fossils’ upward movement is just how well preserved it is millions of years later.
That’s a skeleton from millions of years ago and also near the ocean.
Did you think I wouldn’t read those links?
You assumptions about where life should end as the result of a global flood based on fossils is another game of the null.
I’m making assumptions based on what we know about fossils and what is stated in the Bible:
“For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth”
Forty days would be enough time to leave fossils and other evidence.
I don’t appreciate being told this story was a fact when it clearly wasn’t. Stop lying to children about history.
A brilliant summary, Helen, of how the rulers operate.
What are your suggestions for improving social conditions?
Laugh.
The Bible says nothing about fossils and I have made no claims about the age of the earth —
either 6 thousand is literal or its a metaphor, which is where I lean.
I provide links so that people can read for themselves. Stop making insinuations —- the fact I provide the links is enough.
And I never said that the Noah flood story was true. You do have a tendency to overplay your hand. You extrapolate without any evidence to support it. I challenged your view of the record — I did not make any claims about the accuracy of the Noah story.
And you ignored the several sources because they did not suit you. The point is that whale fossils have been found in locations they were not expected, deserts, mountains . . . and nine miles from the nearest coast. The point was not to defend the Noah flood story and you well know. It was to challenge your conclusions about the fossil record. And furthermore demonstrate that your null arguments are not proof of anything. Just because there have not been whale fossils in Arizona, does not mean that the flood did not occur. Your conclusions require information we do not know.
I even provided the debate between whether the Grand Canyon reflects a flood , it definitely demonstrates that the fossil record does not support evolution.
This is an old tactic of yours. You make a claim about what one is arguing that is entirely false and then argue against a position that is not on the table.
Your assumptions are not supported by the record, so in typical fashion, you attempt to make the issue about what you claim I believe or my person, which again is false and no statements by me — support what you claim. How the waters moved if the flood occurred and and where the life ended up would be unknown and no speculation on your part would make it otherwise. again, null arguments convenient but evidence of nothing.
Ref comment #304
In fact the only thing I have stated definitively is that that the evidence is for the flood is inconclusive.
Further note:
I come from a school of thought that time s absolutely inconsequential to God. So, I don’t dismiss outright the 6,000 year creation story. But in my view the reference
a day is a thousand years is akin to the number of times one is to forgive seventy times seven which does mean after seventy times, its ok to stop forgiving.
Forgiveness has no deadline and no set number, its a quality of God ad and upon accepting Christ that quality is passed to believers –forgiveness is a tough hurdle for me on two issues but if a person is to claim christ — it is a must without limit.
The nature of God could create the world in six days, six hours , , , 6,000 years is of no barrier for god.
I find the assumption that the flood referred to was worldwide is probably mistaken. The “world” at the time was much smaller in terms of what people understood as “the world”. They had no clue that someplace later named Arizona (or even North America) existed.
I come from a school of thought that time s absolutely inconsequential to God. So, I don’t dismiss outright the 6,000 year creation story. But in my view the reference
Why would God make the earth look millions of years old? To confuse people?
This doesn’t make sense and there is also the problem of Aborginals.
They don’t have any Hebrew DNA which means their ancestors did not come off the ark. We can trace their DNA back over 50k years.
The honest answer is that it doesn’t add up. Children should not be taught this as fact.
I find the assumption that the flood referred to was worldwide is probably mistaken. The “world” at the time was much smaller in terms of what people understood as “the world”.
Which would mean that it is not 100% accurate or the word of God.
The word of God would describe what happened accurately.
Genesis not only states that the flood covered the earth but that it killed everyone:
So God said to Noah, “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth.
Ok explain why we don’t see Middle Eastern DNA in Aboriginals from the last 10,000 years.
For God — time is no consequence yesterday is today today is yesterday. Time is an issue we wrestle with.
Our understanding of time, including geological time is not as concrete as we once thought. There are constant revisions.
“This has changed with the Anthropocene, and a new methodological approach to our understanding of Earth history and to the formalization of units in the GTS has been inaugurated. From an epistemological perspective, the understanding of Earth’s history first proceeded from data observed in local strata to the inference of global phenomena, whereas now in the Anthropocene it proceeds in the opposite direction, from global phenomena to their expression in local strata. As a result, the human-induced planetary crisis we are now currently facing has not been known from strata but from global environmental indicators. ”
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0012825224001235
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“This conflict is not merely one of duration, but of perception and scale. On one hand, the political and social narrative is driven by the tangible impacts of a changing climate—extreme weather events, disproportionate effects on vulnerable communities, and the economic fallout of fossil fuel dependence [3, 4]. This perspective necessitates deadlines, targets, and a language of crisis to mobilize society [5]. On the other hand, the scientific understanding of Earth’s systems reveals processes that dwarf human history [6, 7]. Geology and paleoclimatology present a history of profound climatic shifts occurring over vast stretches of time, governed by forces that operate on a scale far removed from political cycles [8, 9]. The central challenge, therefore, is how to reconcile the necessary urgency of the human clock with the staggering, almost paralyzing, timescale of the Earth itself.”
https://kwize.com/en/articles/The-temporal-paradox-reconciling-the-climate-clock-with-geological-time/
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Note the reasons for these variants is the fact that they don’t make sense to the interpretive conclusions
And Cambria all but has blown up the geologic record interpretation
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As for the Aboriginal claim
“11 “Anatomical similarities between some southern Indian tribes and the Australian aborigines were noticed morethan a century ago by Huxley21 who suggested an India-Australia connection.
Birdsell22 attributed the physical similarities to a possible migration of people with affinities to tribal Indians into Australia about 15 000 years ago.He hypothesized that the peopling of Australia
was shaped by various migratory waves. Birdsell22 proposed that ∼15 000 years ago the Carpentarians, people who had physical characteristics similar to the Vedda Tribe of South India and Sri Lanka, arrived through the Gulf of Carpentaria and colonized northern and central Australia. Birdsell’s ‘multiple migrations’ hypothesis was supported by a mtDNA study2 that argued for a recent link between aboriginal Australians and populations from the Indian subcontinent. This study was followed by Redd et al.4 who reported the presence of paragroup C-M216* Y-chromosomes in both India and Australia and proposed a midHolocene common ancestry for these chromosomes. The genetic data suggesting multiple migrations is alsosupported by
changes in the Australian anthropological record between 5000 and 3000 years ago.
These changes include the introduction of the dingo (Australia’s wild dog), possibly arriving from India,23 the dispersal of the Australian Small Tool tradition,24 the appearance of technology that allowed for the processing of plants25 and the expansion of the Pama-Nyungan language over most of Australia.26 In addition, congruencies between the PamaNyungan and Dravidian languages were reported by Dixon.27 However, a study published by Hudjashov et al.28made use of the improved resolution of the Y-chromosomal phylogeny to distinguish the Indian C sub-haplogroup(C5) from the Australian C sub-haplogroups (C4a and C4b), strongly suggesting that no migrants from India reached Australia after the original ‘Out of Africa’ migratory wave. In fact, the authors argue that there has been noextensive genetic contact between the first settlers of Australia and other populations, and that Australia appears to have been largely isolated since the initial migration. In addition, several studies employing autosomal markers did not show any support for a recent India-Australia connection”
However,
“Our results showing a shared mtDNA lineage between Indians and
Australian Aborigines provides direct evidence that Australia was populated
by modern humans through south Asia following “Southern Route”.” (Satish
Kumar (et al), “Reconstructing Indian-Australian phylogenetic link,” BMC
Evolutionary Biology, Vol. 9, No. 173, (2009), p. 2)”
https://friendsofsabbath-org.originofnations.org/CW%20Articles,%20Notes,%20Charts/Nations%20&%20Races/Origins%20of%20the%20Aborigines.pdf
It’s a long paper, but at the end it challengers your claim, which I have heard you state before.
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I don’t make any claims about whether the the entire earth was covered or just that part of the world inhabited by Noah. But I am very comfortable with the knowledge that the current science has not demonstrated that a global flood was not possible.