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    Alan Dershowitz, in Guilt by Accusation, writes, referring to accusations concerning his alleged sexual misconduct, “Evidence was no longer important. It was the accusation that mattered, as well as the identities of the accuser and accused. The presumption shifted from innocence to guilt. For a man to call a false accuser a liar became a...
  • One of the links is dead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGtDj8drWvE

    Video Link
    There’s a website that has been copying at-risk youtube channels to archive.org.
    It offers access via the same video id: https://altcensored.com/watch?v=MGtDj8drWvE
    Here’s a suggestion: have the alternative link automatically interpolated in articles, where necessary.
    Thank you.

  • Ben Shapiro, The Right Side of History: How Reason and Moral Purpose Made the West Great (New York: Broadside Books 2019) As the cathedral of Notre Dame burned in Holy Week, Ben Shapiro took time out to tell his vast social media audience that: Shapiro went on to clarify that the cathedral was a “central...
  • @Thomm
    All these anti-Jewish articles are designed to tickle the grudges of WNs, but nonetheless fail the basic logical test :

    i) If gentiles are so smart, why are Jews, whom gentiles outnumber 40:1 across the combined Western World, able to control everything? The entire premise of White Nationalism fails.
    ii) Jews are not distinguished from other whites by blacks. So Jews face all the same risks from blacks that gentiles face. Somehow, this does not compute in WN ‘logic’.
    iii) Virtually everything that White Nationalists say about Jews is what blacks say about whites. Given the small number of Jews and no prior history of enslavement, the WN claim is even weaker. Claiming oppression and superiority simultaneously is evidence of Dunning-Kruger.
    iv) The Pittsburgh Synagogue shooting, perped by a White Trashionalist, didn’t kill off any billionaires of media executives. The people killed were just everyday, middle class innocents. The fact that some of the White Trashionalists over here thought that shooting was a good thing reveals how illogical their entire premise is.

    Thanks,
    -Mordecai ‘Ira’ Rabinowitz

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    Thanks to the Holohoax the Jews have gained a “freedom of doing” in part Gentiles haven’t properly got yet and in part achieved by Jews with all means.
    1)To speak about “numbers” is a typical way to jeopardise the issue: the issue is not the “numbers” but what position the “numbers” occupy. The Black slaves outnumbered the slavers but it doesn’t matter in political and social terms.
    2) it is a blurred consideration to affirm that the Jews get the same “risks” as the White ones: risks about what? About walking during the night in the ghettos (built up by who? Interesting issue) I may easily agree. But the real, biggest, risk comes from the MSM totally owned by Jews supporting huge corporations and funds owned by the same believers.
    3) The Whites-Blacks-Jews play about slavery is a covert artifice used always to distract the audience with awful and condemned (rightly) concepts, by forgetting that the slavery phenomenon was a Jewish stance that enriched the most important Jewish families. Only the majority of Black people don’t know that history.
    4) I have never thought to kill anyone and never I’ll do it. I can’t say the same about the Jews in Palestine since they believe- they believe – to be the chosen people and the others “trashonialist” Muslim or Christian. In any case, statistically, to call upon the Pittsburg Synagogue as example is another Jewish trick to draw the counterpart in the same reasoning but it doesn’t work: I may replay with the Gaza genocide but I am not Jew and I cannot adhere to the Frankfurtian system of reasoning/speaking

  • Alan Dershowitz, in Guilt by Accusation, writes, referring to accusations concerning his alleged sexual misconduct, “Evidence was no longer important. It was the accusation that mattered, as well as the identities of the accuser and accused. The presumption shifted from innocence to guilt. For a man to call a false accuser a liar became a...
  • @Mefobills
    @the grand wazoo


    It was the jews who backed Hitler, until he took over Germany’s banks. That’s the only mistake he made. Never touch their precious money.
     
    The national socialist party was funded into existence by small donations from the German people. They collected this money by passing a plate around during the very popular rallys.

    Any Jewish money funneled into the National Socialist by international banksters, was small potatoes. Or, in the case of Schiff, he said that they didn't even know he was a jew when he was donating. It was mostly to embarrass the Bruning government.

    Hitler made a lot of mistakes, but national socialist party taking donor money was not one of them. These donors had no influence on the subsequent injection of national purchasing power (Germany's own money), especially with Oeffa and Mefobills starting in 1933/34.

    https://truthtopowernews.com/history/hitlers-economic-miracle-how-national-socialist-germany-abolished-interest-slavery-n3246

    The Jews and finance capital attacked because Germany STOPPED taking their ill gotten money. Germany divorced itself from finance international.

    Replies: @the grand wazoo

    I partially agree. Small donor money adds up, but it is always the large donors who are heard. When Germany issued the new Reich’s mark, it signed its own death warrant. Same as Qadaffi, Hussain, and to a lessor degree JFK, and Lincoln.
    One can do many things, but don’t mess with their system.

  • @The Real World
    @William Oliver

    I have seen Dershowitz interviewed on TV more than a half-dozen times now, over the last year, related to his activities in the Epstein universe and every time I've said to the TV, "He doth protest the loudest!"

    His over-eagerness to "explain" and defend is completely apparent. He talks like a guilty guy.

    Replies: @William Oliver

    well said!

  • @the grand wazoo
    Listening to Douchevitz is like listening to the class weakling after begging to get his sneakers back. He's a condescending arse, one who needs a really solid punch to his grill. It was the jews who backed Hitler, until he took over Germany's banks. That's the only mistake he made. Never touch their precious money.
    Here's something you may not know: both Winston Churchill and Dwight Eisenhower were in debt to Bernard Baruch. Which may account for their similar attitude towards Germans.

    Dwight David Eisenhower in a letter to his wife in September 1944 wrote: “God, I hate the Germans…”
    (General George Patton, letter to his wife, August 27, 1945) Interestingly, both Eisenhower and Churchill were financed by Bernard Baruch. Ike’s attitude towards Germans mirrored Churchill’s.
    52 GERARD MENUHIN · TELL THE TRUTH & SHAME THE DEVIL
     

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    ANTI-SEMITE ALERT
    CODE COLOR MAGENTA

    Where is my anti semite detector when I needed it most.

  • then there’s that photo taken at Harvard of Dershowitz standing before Epstein (wearing a Harvard t-shirt) – smiling reverently at the pedophile
    gag
    even clever psycopaths drop their guard sometimes

  • @Curmudgeon
    I have been acquainted with several Jews who do, in fact, question the treatment of Palestinians. One old couple, now deceased, were huge supporters of "the homeland" but very opposed to Israeli expansion. I repeat, Jews are not a monolith.

    Replies: @Art

    I have been acquainted with several Jews who do, in fact, question the treatment of Palestinians. One old couple, now deceased, were huge supporters of “the homeland” but very opposed to Israeli expansion. I repeat, Jews are not a monolith.

    Some time ago, a Jew posted that 85% of all Jews are Israeli supporters. He was saying that these Jews are “true believers” – that they will irrationally support Israel through thick and thin.

    Your old Jew friends prove the point. We can be sure that every Jew has a little different take on Israel. After all they are Jews. “Two Jews – three opinions.”

  • Funny how Dershowitz never seems to retract any of his disgusting slurs against people, even when it can be conclusively shown that they are nothing but slurs. https://www.meforum.org/campus-watch/11227/dershowitz-v-finkelstein Here is a link of Finkelstein confronting him in a restaurant about one of them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktlBCXrZXHE
    Video Link

  • I have been acquainted with several Jews who do, in fact, question the treatment of Palestinians. One old couple, now deceased, were huge supporters of “the homeland” but very opposed to Israeli expansion. I repeat, Jews are not a monolith.

    • Replies: @Art
    @Curmudgeon


    I have been acquainted with several Jews who do, in fact, question the treatment of Palestinians. One old couple, now deceased, were huge supporters of “the homeland” but very opposed to Israeli expansion. I repeat, Jews are not a monolith.
     
    Some time ago, a Jew posted that 85% of all Jews are Israeli supporters. He was saying that these Jews are “true believers” – that they will irrationally support Israel through thick and thin.

    Your old Jew friends prove the point. We can be sure that every Jew has a little different take on Israel. After all they are Jews. “Two Jews – three opinions.”

  • @Curmudgeon
    @Art

    I'm not a Jew, but I am acquainted with several, and have had dealings with them for over 50 years. They are not a monolith, except for those active participants of organized Jewry, in which Maxwell and Dershowitz are well established, which is a monolith.
    It would make no difference to me whether they were Roman Catholics, Baptists or Jains. Trial by opinion is dangerous for everyone.

    Replies: @Alden, @Art

    I’m not a Jew, but I am acquainted with several, and have had dealings with them for over 50 years. They are not a monolith,

    Hmm — question Israel’s treatment of Palestinians and you will see monolith – end of story.

  • @Curmudgeon
    @Hubert


    The article doesn’t take a position on these matters – it merely points out that Alan Dershowitz lied about and smeared Farmer and that he has a demonstrable history of accusing people who simply disagree with him (Jewish and non-Jewish) of anti-Semitism.
     
    1. What Dershowitz says, is no different than what lawyers and journalists do daily - misquote and take things out of context. Trump`s "grab em by the pussy" is a prime example of that.
    2. Claiming Dershowitz lied is an opinion. Misled for sure, but lying is a stretch.
    3. At some point, all Jews under attack play the "J card". It is no different than visible minorities screaming screaming "racism" when things are not going their way.
    The article actually does take a position, by floating the proposition that everything Maria Farmer said in the interview with Webb is true. We have no way of knowing what is and is not true.
    I have no use for Dersh O`Shits, but as the old saying goes, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

    Replies: @Hubert, @Stochastic Determinist

    Sorry, I’m not buying it. Although it is technically true that we don’t “know” that Dershowitz is lying, the probability that he is telling the truth is somewhere on the order of 1.0 x 10^-15 — i.e., virtually 0. We didn’t have cameras in the room, but we ought to be able to make correct inferences.

  • @Alden
    @acementhead

    Laws are laws and you, like restless probably violate them every day by looking at under age porn sites.

    Replies: @restless94110

    Don’t project your own perversions on others, it’s a dead giveaway like the politician who gives speeches against homosexuality then is caught in a motel room with two men.

    Since you are retired and hysterical, I urge you to calm yourself and to help I recommend Harvey A Silverglate’s “Three Felonies a Day” That’s the estimate of how many laws each person in America violates every day.

    Hope this helps you some.

    And Maxwell will walk in 12 months or under.

  • @acementhead
    @restless94110


    No one cares at all about people who sell sex for money except hysterical females over 50. So why do you?
     
    I'm fairly sure that Alden is a hysterical female, and well over fifty(retired probation officer) so that's why. Fits to a t.

    Replies: @Alden, @restless94110

    That would explain much of it. Thanks.

  • @acementhead
    @restless94110


    No one cares at all about people who sell sex for money except hysterical females over 50. So why do you?
     
    I'm fairly sure that Alden is a hysterical female, and well over fifty(retired probation officer) so that's why. Fits to a t.

    Replies: @Alden, @restless94110

    Laws are laws and you, like restless probably violate them every day by looking at under age porn sites.

    • Replies: @restless94110
    @Alden

    Don't project your own perversions on others, it's a dead giveaway like the politician who gives speeches against homosexuality then is caught in a motel room with two men.

    Since you are retired and hysterical, I urge you to calm yourself and to help I recommend Harvey A Silverglate's "Three Felonies a Day" That's the estimate of how many laws each person in America violates every day.

    Hope this helps you some.

    And Maxwell will walk in 12 months or under.

  • @the grand wazoo
    Listening to Douchevitz is like listening to the class weakling after begging to get his sneakers back. He's a condescending arse, one who needs a really solid punch to his grill. It was the jews who backed Hitler, until he took over Germany's banks. That's the only mistake he made. Never touch their precious money.
    Here's something you may not know: both Winston Churchill and Dwight Eisenhower were in debt to Bernard Baruch. Which may account for their similar attitude towards Germans.

    Dwight David Eisenhower in a letter to his wife in September 1944 wrote: “God, I hate the Germans…”
    (General George Patton, letter to his wife, August 27, 1945) Interestingly, both Eisenhower and Churchill were financed by Bernard Baruch. Ike’s attitude towards Germans mirrored Churchill’s.
    52 GERARD MENUHIN · TELL THE TRUTH & SHAME THE DEVIL
     

    Replies: @Mefobills, @Palerider1861, @chuckywiz

    Gerard Menuhin’s “Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil” is a book anyone who wants to understand the real reasons for both world wars needs to make its reading a priority. This is such a well-researched and significant book that I bought 5 copies from Castle Hill books in merry ole England.
    You won’t find it on Amazon, friends…no surprise there!

  • @restless94110
    @Alden

    No one cares at all about people who sell sex for money except hysterical females over 50. So why do you?

    I advocate nothing, fool. It's illegal to smoke weed. Are you advocating long sentences for weed smokers? It sounds like you are. You really just hate human behavior, don't you?

    The law is an ass. Violate it and face draconian cruel and unusual punishments (something prevented supposedly by the Constitution).

    Hang 'em high, citizen fascist. Against the founding principles of the United States. You fiddle while Rome burns. What a fool.

    Maxwell faces no consequences for anything. She will walk within 12 months.

    Replies: @acementhead

    No one cares at all about people who sell sex for money except hysterical females over 50. So why do you?

    I’m fairly sure that Alden is a hysterical female, and well over fifty(retired probation officer) so that’s why. Fits to a t.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @acementhead

    Laws are laws and you, like restless probably violate them every day by looking at under age porn sites.

    Replies: @restless94110

    , @restless94110
    @acementhead

    That would explain much of it. Thanks.

  • @Ilya G Poimandres
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    I see the belief system as demanding of hate of the outsider (in this case, unjustified, instant hate, since you believe there is some value to hate as a reaction to injustice! :) ).. those that don't subscribe to the faith (and still call themselves Jews through birth or whatnot), aren't really in that category of 'evil'. The fraction of faithful Jews that don't hate on Gentiles as their teachings poke them to, also aren't.. they are probably even better than those of us that start without the hindrance of unqualified hate for anyone 'other', as they have had to climb out of a ravine to get to our more common 'normality'.

    Personally I suspect Judaism is currently again splitting like it did when Christ led some of them away from hate. I don't think the world needs much of a prophet these days, we have so much information in front of us, it is much easier to make up your own mind.

    It will be interesting to see what reform Judaism will morph into. They don't accept ritual to the same level as the classical faith, and that is certainly an important start to true morality.

    As for nukes in Beirut - surely someone has a Geiger counter and has popped down to the blast site and uploaded a video to YouTube? The nuke hypothesis will be the easiest of all to (dis)prove. I personally don't think you need a nuke though - 3 kilotons of explosive is really enough for a nuclear like blast!

    Replies: @Quartermaster

    Most of the problems with Jews is with reformists. Orthodox do not recognize them as Jews, and it has cause conservatives some problems. The ones that dress in black with hats and curls for sideburns, are what the Pharisees became, and many of them still recognize them as such. I’ve had a few run-ins with them. They are often just as hateful as their religious predecessors.

  • @Alden
    @restless94110

    You opinion and my opinion about underage prostitution don’t mean a thing. It’s not a matter of should or should not be illegal.

    It’s a fact that the activities you advocate are already illegal. The law is the law. Violate it and face the consequences as Maxwell will.

    Replies: @restless94110

    No one cares at all about people who sell sex for money except hysterical females over 50. So why do you?

    I advocate nothing, fool. It’s illegal to smoke weed. Are you advocating long sentences for weed smokers? It sounds like you are. You really just hate human behavior, don’t you?

    The law is an ass. Violate it and face draconian cruel and unusual punishments (something prevented supposedly by the Constitution).

    Hang ’em high, citizen fascist. Against the founding principles of the United States. You fiddle while Rome burns. What a fool.

    Maxwell faces no consequences for anything. She will walk within 12 months.

    • Replies: @acementhead
    @restless94110


    No one cares at all about people who sell sex for money except hysterical females over 50. So why do you?
     
    I'm fairly sure that Alden is a hysterical female, and well over fifty(retired probation officer) so that's why. Fits to a t.

    Replies: @Alden, @restless94110

  • @anon
    @restless94110

    May be this is the problem:

    Seth Rosen" “I’m afraid of Jews. I’m 100 percent afraid of Jews.”


    "On 27 July 2020 Rogen was interviewed on fellow Jewish comedian Marc Maron’s “insanely popular podcast” WTF. While on Maron’s program, Rogen questioned why those with “a secular Jewish identity” should feel “any cultural identification with the state of Israel.” Indeed, he admitted that the notion of a Jewish state made little sense to him. He said “Jewish statehood was the result of an “antiquated thought process” and was in truth, counterproductive. “Encouraging all Jews to live in one Jewish state is a nonsensical strategy for the preservation of Jewish peoplehood.”

    How did Rogen come to these conclusions? He credited his outlook to overcoming an incomplete and deceitful Jewish educational process. He explained that he had been “fed a huge amount of lies about Israel my entire life. You know, they never tell you, that oh by the way, there were people there.” In other words, the history of Israel he was taught never mentioned the Nakba, Occupied Territories, and collective imprisonment of the residents of the Gaza Strip and the like. It was just the story of “only democracy in the Middle East” and the “most moral army in the world.” As Marc Maron would say, “WTF”!

    Asked why a famous guy like himself had not previously spoken publicly about Israel, he noted that “I’m afraid of Jews. I’m 100 percent afraid of Jews.” Presumably not all Jews, just those allied to the State of Israel. Who can blame him? Most of the U.S. Congress feels the same way."

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/08/18/seth-rogen-turns-the-truth-into-a-joke/

    Replies: @restless94110

    This is A problem, obviously.

    But it is not THE problem in this case.

    Rogen has never been funny in anything he has ever done. He has been promoted by Judd Apted, also Jewish. He is so stupid that it is no surprise he accidentally spilled the beans. But did you mention he later retracted it all and apologized?

    The Epstein thing was clearly a Mossad thing meant to take advantage of the Puritan nature of Americans: get a few girls to give a few blowjobs to rich and powerful Americans, video it and then use it to extract whatever it is you can extract.

    The venality of Mossad has been clear for at least 5 decades. But you should understand that the reason they could pull this kind of thing off is the fundamental weakness of America: the anti-sex Puritanism that still shines brightly, this time under the guise of feminism.

    Like shooting fish in a barrel. Epstein is no doubt happily enjoying life somewhere in the world. Maxwell will walk. Game over.

  • anon[231] • Disclaimer says:
    @restless94110
    @Daniel Rich

    You don't know any of that. It has been alleged. Max denies it. No one has seen the "steamy" detail videos. It happened a long time ago. Most if not all of the girls were within months of the phony "age of consent." All of them were paid. None of them were raped. A pederast is someone who is interested in sex with boys, so you are wrong there, as well.

    I agree with you on one thing though. The ones that have been calling me names for stating obvious truth do show a weakness morally but also weakness of being able to think and reason.

    You should ask yourself: Maxwell had 3 (or more?) legal passports and millions of dollars. She could have gone to France which does not honor extradition. Instead she bought a home in the United States. This is the opposite behavior of someone who is guilty of a crime in the US.

    It's obvious she will walk. Only the hysterical overzealous prosecutor and her associates and those that are over her are pushing. They don't care about justice. Being tried in the press used to be frowned upon. It can prejudice a jury. And all of this hysterical nonsense will be dismantled by competent legal counsel in the long run.

    Replies: @anon

    May be this is the problem:

    Seth Rosen” “I’m afraid of Jews. I’m 100 percent afraid of Jews.”

    “On 27 July 2020 Rogen was interviewed on fellow Jewish comedian Marc Maron’s “insanely popular podcast” WTF. While on Maron’s program, Rogen questioned why those with “a secular Jewish identity” should feel “any cultural identification with the state of Israel.” Indeed, he admitted that the notion of a Jewish state made little sense to him. He said “Jewish statehood was the result of an “antiquated thought process” and was in truth, counterproductive. “Encouraging all Jews to live in one Jewish state is a nonsensical strategy for the preservation of Jewish peoplehood.”

    How did Rogen come to these conclusions? He credited his outlook to overcoming an incomplete and deceitful Jewish educational process. He explained that he had been “fed a huge amount of lies about Israel my entire life. You know, they never tell you, that oh by the way, there were people there.” In other words, the history of Israel he was taught never mentioned the Nakba, Occupied Territories, and collective imprisonment of the residents of the Gaza Strip and the like. It was just the story of “only democracy in the Middle East” and the “most moral army in the world.” As Marc Maron would say, “WTF”!

    Asked why a famous guy like himself had not previously spoken publicly about Israel, he noted that “I’m afraid of Jews. I’m 100 percent afraid of Jews.” Presumably not all Jews, just those allied to the State of Israel. Who can blame him? Most of the U.S. Congress feels the same way.”

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/08/18/seth-rogen-turns-the-truth-into-a-joke/

    • Replies: @restless94110
    @anon

    This is A problem, obviously.

    But it is not THE problem in this case.

    Rogen has never been funny in anything he has ever done. He has been promoted by Judd Apted, also Jewish. He is so stupid that it is no surprise he accidentally spilled the beans. But did you mention he later retracted it all and apologized?

    The Epstein thing was clearly a Mossad thing meant to take advantage of the Puritan nature of Americans: get a few girls to give a few blowjobs to rich and powerful Americans, video it and then use it to extract whatever it is you can extract.

    The venality of Mossad has been clear for at least 5 decades. But you should understand that the reason they could pull this kind of thing off is the fundamental weakness of America: the anti-sex Puritanism that still shines brightly, this time under the guise of feminism.

    Like shooting fish in a barrel. Epstein is no doubt happily enjoying life somewhere in the world. Maxwell will walk. Game over.

  • @Daniel Rich
    @restless94110

    Max & Ep did underage girls and have all the steamy details on digital recordings [you know, the ones supposedly confiscated by the cops], so there should be ample evidence of either them or any other pedorast breaking the law, poking underage girls.

    There simply isn't any excuse for this behavior [no matter how hard you try].

    Oh, and name calling is really a sign of moral weakness.

    Replies: @restless94110

    You don’t know any of that. It has been alleged. Max denies it. No one has seen the “steamy” detail videos. It happened a long time ago. Most if not all of the girls were within months of the phony “age of consent.” All of them were paid. None of them were raped. A pederast is someone who is interested in sex with boys, so you are wrong there, as well.

    I agree with you on one thing though. The ones that have been calling me names for stating obvious truth do show a weakness morally but also weakness of being able to think and reason.

    You should ask yourself: Maxwell had 3 (or more?) legal passports and millions of dollars. She could have gone to France which does not honor extradition. Instead she bought a home in the United States. This is the opposite behavior of someone who is guilty of a crime in the US.

    It’s obvious she will walk. Only the hysterical overzealous prosecutor and her associates and those that are over her are pushing. They don’t care about justice. Being tried in the press used to be frowned upon. It can prejudice a jury. And all of this hysterical nonsense will be dismantled by competent legal counsel in the long run.

    • Agree: acementhead
    • Replies: @anon
    @restless94110

    May be this is the problem:

    Seth Rosen" “I’m afraid of Jews. I’m 100 percent afraid of Jews.”


    "On 27 July 2020 Rogen was interviewed on fellow Jewish comedian Marc Maron’s “insanely popular podcast” WTF. While on Maron’s program, Rogen questioned why those with “a secular Jewish identity” should feel “any cultural identification with the state of Israel.” Indeed, he admitted that the notion of a Jewish state made little sense to him. He said “Jewish statehood was the result of an “antiquated thought process” and was in truth, counterproductive. “Encouraging all Jews to live in one Jewish state is a nonsensical strategy for the preservation of Jewish peoplehood.”

    How did Rogen come to these conclusions? He credited his outlook to overcoming an incomplete and deceitful Jewish educational process. He explained that he had been “fed a huge amount of lies about Israel my entire life. You know, they never tell you, that oh by the way, there were people there.” In other words, the history of Israel he was taught never mentioned the Nakba, Occupied Territories, and collective imprisonment of the residents of the Gaza Strip and the like. It was just the story of “only democracy in the Middle East” and the “most moral army in the world.” As Marc Maron would say, “WTF”!

    Asked why a famous guy like himself had not previously spoken publicly about Israel, he noted that “I’m afraid of Jews. I’m 100 percent afraid of Jews.” Presumably not all Jews, just those allied to the State of Israel. Who can blame him? Most of the U.S. Congress feels the same way."

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/08/18/seth-rogen-turns-the-truth-into-a-joke/

    Replies: @restless94110

  • @Daniel Sheehan
    Please folks be careful and watch your words. Be concise and accurate with each word. Do not get carried away. Do not paint a broad brush over all Jewish people. There are a lot of good Jews and i Love those good Jews... However...I do agree that the Zionist lobby has a death grip on the USA and unless that death grip is released, our country is toast. A Jewish lady that i know told me that calling you anti semitic is one of their tricks to not have to answer for their actions. PS Israel did not nuke Lebanon, they used the same directed energy weapon against Lebanon that they used against Iran causing those fires at key installations in the preceding weeks.

    Replies: @Chuckywiz

    Thanks for some sanity.

  • @anon
    @anon

    Dershowitz called Binary a Nazi , railed against S African civil rights lawyer with most vicious language who documented Israeli atrocities against Gaza requested by UN . Dershowitz lobbies for the criminal Israeli looter, Dan Gertler, defended the repulsive Steve Bannon, decried Daniel Berrigan, the heroic pacifist priest as anti semite

    He said : “Israel must always remain a bipartisan issue. We never want to see Israel become a referendum issue in an election. Why? We could lose! … Who could have predicted the outcome of the last election. You can’t put all your eggs in one basket” at a pep talk on Jewish influence to an orthodox audience in Scarsdale .

    His opinion about anti Zionst academic!! “ The dog “, "3rd rate “ , who won’t get job because they are attack dog -attacking Israel !


    About his tribe "People write a book called the Israel lobby and complain that AIPAC is one of the most powerful lobbies in Washington. My response to that is, that’s not good enough. We should be the most powerful lobby in Washington….

    We are entitled to use our power. We have contributed disproportionately to the success of this country. We have done so much for this country. When you think of how much better this country has become since our grandparents and great grandparents took the risk of coming, here, we have not only the right we have the obligation to speak out, and use every piece, every bit of power available in support of Israel.”


    https://mondoweiss.net/2017/05/influence-dershowitz-scarsdale/


    Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz encouraged his audience to blackmail academic institutions into giving Israel their undivided loyalty and support, during a book signing at New York’s Young Israel of Scarsdale synagogue.

    “We have to hit them in the pocketbook. Don’t ever, ever, be embarrassed about using Jewish power,” Dershowitz said, according to online media outlet Mondoweiss.

    “Jewish power, whether it be intellectual, academic, economic, political – in the interest of justice is the right thing to do.” https://english.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2017/5/11/harvard-professor-suggests-whitewashing-israel-crimes-with-jewish-power


    This cheap man doesn’t want American voters decide how USA should deal with Israel He wants some bribed AIPAC endorsed lawmakers do that .

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Good post.

  • @Alden
    @restless94110

    I’m stating the laws that exist here and now in America.

    You’re off in a fantasy world claiming that because you believe it should be legal have sex with underage minors, turn your homes into brothels, and violate 18 USC by transporting men and women of any age back and forth between your brothels for the purposes of prostitution, the laws should be changed to allow you establish brothels full of underage girls.

    Replies: @restless94110

    I’m in no fantasy world.

    I don’t care what laws exist today that didn’t exist at another time.

    I haven’t said a word about any of that idiotic nonsense you are saying that I “want.” What’s wrong with you, man? You are screaming like a hysterical old woman. Calm down.

    This is a fake prosecution. Maxwell will walk within 12 months.

  • @restless94110
    @Alden

    The law in this case is an ass.

    Sorry but not sorry. I'm not reading beyond your first line, because you have not understood what I am saying.

    Go to Google. Type in: The Law is an Ass. Read what comes up.

    Then, post something new. Only once you understand. But not until you do understand.

    The law is an ass. And you are an ass for not taking the time to look that up.

    Correct yourself.

    Then we'll talk. Not until.

    Replies: @Alden

    I’m stating the laws that exist here and now in America.

    You’re off in a fantasy world claiming that because you believe it should be legal have sex with underage minors, turn your homes into brothels, and violate 18 USC by transporting men and women of any age back and forth between your brothels for the purposes of prostitution, the laws should be changed to allow you establish brothels full of underage girls.

    • Replies: @restless94110
    @Alden

    I'm in no fantasy world.

    I don't care what laws exist today that didn't exist at another time.

    I haven't said a word about any of that idiotic nonsense you are saying that I "want." What's wrong with you, man? You are screaming like a hysterical old woman. Calm down.

    This is a fake prosecution. Maxwell will walk within 12 months.

  • @restless94110

    Those limitations don’t invalidate any crime, just whether they can be prosecuted or not.

    Is that your daughter over there…?Who cares? And who cares about my daughter?
     
    Try to focus.

    You seem to think that there was a crime committed. The statute of limitations is in place because, as time passes, it gets harder and harder to judge if a crime was committed at all.

    It is apparent in this case that whatever happened 25 years ago, it could have and should have been reported and prosecuted 25 years ago if it was an actual crime. It wasn't.

    This makes a mockery of a thousand years of English jurisprudence. You can not claim a crime was committed 20 years later! That is insane. But more than that, it is unjust.

    Instead of talking about my daughter, think about your son. They are hunting males,, fool. And guess what? In the 1890s women were looked upon as without agency. They were all considered fragile flowers who fainted at every moment.

    Tell, me, fool. What is different now about how this case is treating females???? So feminism is not about women's rights? It is instead about a new Puritanism? Yeah. It is. Take care of your sons, bud, and leave me and my daughter out of your lunacy.

    Replies: @Daniel Rich

    Max & Ep did underage girls and have all the steamy details on digital recordings [you know, the ones supposedly confiscated by the cops], so there should be ample evidence of either them or any other pedorast breaking the law, poking underage girls.

    There simply isn’t any excuse for this behavior [no matter how hard you try].

    Oh, and name calling is really a sign of moral weakness.

    • Replies: @restless94110
    @Daniel Rich

    You don't know any of that. It has been alleged. Max denies it. No one has seen the "steamy" detail videos. It happened a long time ago. Most if not all of the girls were within months of the phony "age of consent." All of them were paid. None of them were raped. A pederast is someone who is interested in sex with boys, so you are wrong there, as well.

    I agree with you on one thing though. The ones that have been calling me names for stating obvious truth do show a weakness morally but also weakness of being able to think and reason.

    You should ask yourself: Maxwell had 3 (or more?) legal passports and millions of dollars. She could have gone to France which does not honor extradition. Instead she bought a home in the United States. This is the opposite behavior of someone who is guilty of a crime in the US.

    It's obvious she will walk. Only the hysterical overzealous prosecutor and her associates and those that are over her are pushing. They don't care about justice. Being tried in the press used to be frowned upon. It can prejudice a jury. And all of this hysterical nonsense will be dismantled by competent legal counsel in the long run.

    Replies: @anon

  • @Alden
    @restless94110

    The law is the law. Violators will be investigated prosecuted convicted and punished. The statute of limitations on rape and molestation of minors was extended decades ago.

    You don’t know that the statutes of limitations on the crimes Maxwell committed was extended decades ago. I do know their crimes fall with the statute of limitations

    You’re wrong because you’re just defending Jewish pimps and molesters if underage minors. What matters here is the law.

    Fluid over time and place means that Maxwell the pimp and her molesters of underaged girls will be investigated at the time (now) and place (America, specifically New York and Florida)

    What was done against those girls was a crime when it was done, falls within the statute of limitations and is a crime now

    Replies: @restless94110

    The law in this case is an ass.

    Sorry but not sorry. I’m not reading beyond your first line, because you have not understood what I am saying.

    Go to Google. Type in: The Law is an Ass. Read what comes up.

    Then, post something new. Only once you understand. But not until you do understand.

    The law is an ass. And you are an ass for not taking the time to look that up.

    Correct yourself.

    Then we’ll talk. Not until.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @restless94110

    I’m stating the laws that exist here and now in America.

    You’re off in a fantasy world claiming that because you believe it should be legal have sex with underage minors, turn your homes into brothels, and violate 18 USC by transporting men and women of any age back and forth between your brothels for the purposes of prostitution, the laws should be changed to allow you establish brothels full of underage girls.

    Replies: @restless94110

  • anon[331] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    @Curmudgeon

    " I have “met” hundreds of people that I wouldn’t recognize and had nothing to do with, post “
    Countries have managed to wage wars because someone met somebody Countries have managed to put people away in Gitmo because someone met somebody . Sometimes somebody lied about meeting someone making that a crime worthy of getting removed from society for years .


    That argument and consequences must have been heard many times but Dershowitz himself just like any other avid supporters of that arguments and the consequences .


    Unlike these girls,Dershowitz is known to have made atrocious claims ,have disparaged less powerful ,people have forced universities to capitulate and raised the specter of financial squeezing of the institutes. He has a background that these girls dont have . He is lawyer with no moral bone .


    By the way , why these people from Clinton to Prince Andrew - why were they meeting Epstein and meeting him in a sordid island known for being nothing but a sex lab? Were they planning next golf outing or next injection of the heroin ? Were they discussing state polices on health education or finances ?

    Did Epstein meet with any person ever who did not have either money or status as a celebrity ?

    Replies: @anon

    Dershowitz called Binary a Nazi , railed against S African civil rights lawyer with most vicious language who documented Israeli atrocities against Gaza requested by UN . Dershowitz lobbies for the criminal Israeli looter, Dan Gertler, defended the repulsive Steve Bannon, decried Daniel Berrigan, the heroic pacifist priest as anti semite

    He said : “Israel must always remain a bipartisan issue. We never want to see Israel become a referendum issue in an election. Why? We could lose! … Who could have predicted the outcome of the last election. You can’t put all your eggs in one basket” at a pep talk on Jewish influence to an orthodox audience in Scarsdale .

    His opinion about anti Zionst academic!! “ The dog “, “3rd rate “ , who won’t get job because they are attack dog -attacking Israel !

    About his tribe “People write a book called the Israel lobby and complain that AIPAC is one of the most powerful lobbies in Washington. My response to that is, that’s not good enough. We should be the most powerful lobby in Washington….

    We are entitled to use our power. We have contributed disproportionately to the success of this country. We have done so much for this country. When you think of how much better this country has become since our grandparents and great grandparents took the risk of coming, here, we have not only the right we have the obligation to speak out, and use every piece, every bit of power available in support of Israel.”

    https://mondoweiss.net/2017/05/influence-dershowitz-scarsdale/

    Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz encouraged his audience to blackmail academic institutions into giving Israel their undivided loyalty and support, during a book signing at New York’s Young Israel of Scarsdale synagogue.

    “We have to hit them in the pocketbook. Don’t ever, ever, be embarrassed about using Jewish power,” Dershowitz said, according to online media outlet Mondoweiss.

    “Jewish power, whether it be intellectual, academic, economic, political – in the interest of justice is the right thing to do.” https://english.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2017/5/11/harvard-professor-suggests-whitewashing-israel-crimes-with-jewish-power

    This cheap man doesn’t want American voters decide how USA should deal with Israel He wants some bribed AIPAC endorsed lawmakers do that .

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @anon

    Good post.

  • @Curmudgeon
    @Art

    I'm not a Jew, but I am acquainted with several, and have had dealings with them for over 50 years. They are not a monolith, except for those active participants of organized Jewry, in which Maxwell and Dershowitz are well established, which is a monolith.
    It would make no difference to me whether they were Roman Catholics, Baptists or Jains. Trial by opinion is dangerous for everyone.

    Replies: @Alden, @Art

    Only place trials occur is in courtrooms moron.
    Maxwell’s trial is set for next July. Dershowitz hasn’t even been interviewed by investigators yet let alone charged with anything.

    Only a moron would claim Dershowitz has been charged and is on trial.

  • @restless94110
    @Alden

    People that disagree with you and question the law and the overzealous prosecutors lead you to conclude nasty stupidities. You rattle off a few statutes and some laws and that makes you think you are making a point.

    In this case, the law is an ass. And people like you who quote the law are asses.

    Replies: @Alden

    The law is the law. Violators will be investigated prosecuted convicted and punished. The statute of limitations on rape and molestation of minors was extended decades ago.

    You don’t know that the statutes of limitations on the crimes Maxwell committed was extended decades ago. I do know their crimes fall with the statute of limitations

    You’re wrong because you’re just defending Jewish pimps and molesters if underage minors. What matters here is the law.

    Fluid over time and place means that Maxwell the pimp and her molesters of underaged girls will be investigated at the time (now) and place (America, specifically New York and Florida)

    What was done against those girls was a crime when it was done, falls within the statute of limitations and is a crime now

    • Replies: @restless94110
    @Alden

    The law in this case is an ass.

    Sorry but not sorry. I'm not reading beyond your first line, because you have not understood what I am saying.

    Go to Google. Type in: The Law is an Ass. Read what comes up.

    Then, post something new. Only once you understand. But not until you do understand.

    The law is an ass. And you are an ass for not taking the time to look that up.

    Correct yourself.

    Then we'll talk. Not until.

    Replies: @Alden

  • @Art
    @Curmudgeon


    My only “support” for Dersh is that the media has already tried and convicted him, Maxwell, and others, when, other than statements by women making allegations, there is no hard evidence, only inference.
     
    Really --- I think you are defending them because they are Jews. One Jew defending another Jew, not matter what - is the norm.

    Replies: @Curmudgeon

    I’m not a Jew, but I am acquainted with several, and have had dealings with them for over 50 years. They are not a monolith, except for those active participants of organized Jewry, in which Maxwell and Dershowitz are well established, which is a monolith.
    It would make no difference to me whether they were Roman Catholics, Baptists or Jains. Trial by opinion is dangerous for everyone.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Curmudgeon

    Only place trials occur is in courtrooms moron.
    Maxwell’s trial is set for next July. Dershowitz hasn’t even been interviewed by investigators yet let alone charged with anything.

    Only a moron would claim Dershowitz has been charged and is on trial.

    , @Art
    @Curmudgeon

    I’m not a Jew, but I am acquainted with several, and have had dealings with them for over 50 years. They are not a monolith,

    Hmm --- question Israel's treatment of Palestinians and you will see monolith - end of story.

  • @Alden
    @Curmudgeon

    How can you say the media has “ convicted “ him when he hasn’t even been interviewed by investigators or charged by prosecutors?

    You’re such a moron you don’t even know what conviction or convicted means.

    The media is Jewish and I haven’t seen anything either written on the internet it TV news that the media has convicted the Jew Dershowitz. If anything the media is covering it up because he is Jewish.

    Look up conviction and spare us your moronic ignorance.

    Replies: @Curmudgeon

  • Those limitations don’t invalidate any crime, just whether they can be prosecuted or not.

    Is that your daughter over there…?Who cares? And who cares about my daughter?

    Try to focus.

    You seem to think that there was a crime committed. The statute of limitations is in place because, as time passes, it gets harder and harder to judge if a crime was committed at all.

    It is apparent in this case that whatever happened 25 years ago, it could have and should have been reported and prosecuted 25 years ago if it was an actual crime. It wasn’t.

    This makes a mockery of a thousand years of English jurisprudence. You can not claim a crime was committed 20 years later! That is insane. But more than that, it is unjust.

    Instead of talking about my daughter, think about your son. They are hunting males,, fool. And guess what? In the 1890s women were looked upon as without agency. They were all considered fragile flowers who fainted at every moment.

    Tell, me, fool. What is different now about how this case is treating females???? So feminism is not about women’s rights? It is instead about a new Puritanism? Yeah. It is. Take care of your sons, bud, and leave me and my daughter out of your lunacy.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
    @restless94110

    Max & Ep did underage girls and have all the steamy details on digital recordings [you know, the ones supposedly confiscated by the cops], so there should be ample evidence of either them or any other pedorast breaking the law, poking underage girls.

    There simply isn't any excuse for this behavior [no matter how hard you try].

    Oh, and name calling is really a sign of moral weakness.

    Replies: @restless94110

  • @restless94110
    @Dave Bowman


    nteresting. That would suggest to any impartial observer that you simply do not possess the intellect necessary to comprehend the legal issues involved. Your problem – not mine.
     
    It might suggest it to you, but you would be wrong. Furthermore you are hardly impartial.

    2 decades or 10 – the length of time passed is irrelevant. The spuriousness or otherwise of the charges is precisely the issue for which the legally-constituted Court of Prosecution is set up and is scheduled to debate. In the meantime, your opinion is worthless.
     
    This would suggest to the impartial observer that you simply do not possess the intellect necessary to comprehend the legal issues involved in statute of limitations rules that have governed jurisprudence for centuries.

    Solicitation, transportation, pimping and imprisonment of Minors for sexual purposes is illegal in every civilised nation on earth. Is that what you believe is “garden variety escort work” ? You must have had a strange – and very illegal – life.
     
    The terms you use are not proven and the age of minority is fluid over time and throughout all civilized societies. The hysterical screaming is over common garden variety sex escort work. Talking nonsense using common scare words does not change it. The girls were paid for sex. They were not forced. They were not imprisoned. Period.

    We’ll see. In the meantime, as above, your opinion is worthless.
     
    As is yours. Especially yours.

    No one in their right mind gives a shit whether the lying, degenerate, paedophile scumbag Dershowitz has shafted every donkey and camel in the Negev. The question is, whether or not he should be in prison for felony convictions as above.
     
    No one in their right mind gives a shit about your hateful prejudiced spew. You lower the collective IQ of the world with your nonsense.

    Please don't reply and make yourself look worse than you have already made yourself so far.

    Replies: @Daniel Rich

    …statute of limitations rules…

    Those limitations don’t invalidate any crime, just whether they can be prosecuted or not.

    Is that your daughter over there…?

  • Please folks be careful and watch your words. Be concise and accurate with each word. Do not get carried away. Do not paint a broad brush over all Jewish people. There are a lot of good Jews and i Love those good Jews… However…I do agree that the Zionist lobby has a death grip on the USA and unless that death grip is released, our country is toast. A Jewish lady that i know told me that calling you anti semitic is one of their tricks to not have to answer for their actions. PS Israel did not nuke Lebanon, they used the same directed energy weapon against Lebanon that they used against Iran causing those fires at key installations in the preceding weeks.

    • Replies: @Chuckywiz
    @Daniel Sheehan

    Thanks for some sanity.

  • @Alden
    @Alan Marson

    I’m not a knight. I’m not eligible to be a knight. The law is the law. Court rulings set precedents that become law. Go back to wanking away as you watch your favorite porn site Horny Young Harlots Love Creepy Old Codgers.

    Everybody defends what they like and approve of. You are defending molesters of underage minors. Doesn’t matter what you think or do. The law is the law. Get caught with a girl you think is a hot and horny teen harlot and accept the consequences.

    Or find a woman your own age.

    When I was a probation officer there were some black molesters of their underage nieces daughters sisters and grand daughters.

    Like you, they thought they did nothing wrong.
    Like you they thought the laws were unjust. Like you they had many arguments against the laws; especially “ isn’t it better she learns from her father than some kid”

    Unlike you, they went to prison for molesting underage girls.

    Or maybe you’re in a prison library typing justifications of illegal sex acts with underage minors because you got caught.

    Replies: @Alan Marson

    Everybody defends what they like and approve of. You are defending molesters of underage minors. Doesn’t matter what you think or do. The law is the law. Get caught with a girl you think is a hot and horny teen harlot and accept the consequences.

    For one thing, what I personally want in life and what I think should be legal are two different (albeit not entirely independent) things. For example I don’t drink or take recreational drugs, but I oppose prohibition entirely, simply because I don’t want to empower guys like you (or the criminal organizations who are effectively granted a monopoly by virtue of market being illegal to enter). For another thing, I advise everyone to be maximally aware of the law in all things sexual. So, were I to advise someone, for his own good, I would certainly advise him to never to run afoul of one of these laws.

    So you say you’ve been hanging around sex offenders, some of whom have said similar things to what I previously said. I don’t know their individual cases. Certainly I would never say that it’s OK to have any kind of sexual relations with a family member, especially a daughter or grand daughter, so as far as I am concerned you just clouded the issue with a giant straw man. Epstein wasn’t like that. He was a rich moneybags and young females were attracted to that even if they generally ended up with a sour aftertaste. OTO I have no doubt that some of the offenders you worked were indeed hard done by by the law (but without seeing the individual cases for myself I couldn’t say for sure).

    So I gather you want anyone who enunciates non status-quo opinions on this subject flagged by LE. You’re swimming in a sea of hypocricy here without even seeing it. Before you carry on about how the laws says this and the law says that, take a look in the mirror. If you live in Florida, your opinions may be illegal under their new “anti-Semitism” law. Even supporting BDS may violate the law in Florida. Expect more of these laws to crop up with minimal resistance from the courts. That’s the direction of things. Also Donald Trump signed a new executive order that directs the government to investigate anti-Semitism, so according to the law, the federal government now has an actual mandate to investigate you. As for me, I’ve one of those highly unfashionable people who believes in free speech.

  • Some commentators here have said that Israel used a nuclear weapon against Lebanon. This is false because the truth is that Israel used the same directed energy weapon against Lebanon that Israel used against Iran in the prior weeks causing the fires in Iran at key installations.

  • @Trinity
    Every time you see a story like this, Americans should curse the so-called, "Greatest Generation" and their traitorous leaders and beg Hitler & Germany for forgiveness. When you see or read about a 5 year old white boy being shot in the head execution style you can curse the same people along with the Kennedy clan, the Bush clan, the Clinton family, Nixon,etc. , and all those responsible for creating a social environment where white children are subjected to be killed, beaten, and raped by their nonwhite neighbor. You can also beg forgiveness from those Southern Whites from yesteryear ( today's White Southerner is usually just as bad as a New England Yankee when it comes to obeying political correctness) who tried their best to keep this nation segregated. White Southerners, out of sheer ignorance to the JQ, piss me off when it comes to kissing Jew ass, but it is the Yankee Whites who had turned over all the power in this country to Jews, White Southerners had little to no power in this country all those years ago. Thank you, "greatest generation." Thank you, FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, LBJ, Richard and Ronnie, Bush family, Bill and Hillary, Obama ( our first Jewish President) and thank you Orange Man.

    Replies: @sarz

    Thank you, FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, LBJ, Richard and Ronnie, Bush family, Bill and Hillary, Obama ( our first Jewish President) and thank you Orange Man.

    Trinity is being sarcastic, ‘thanking’ the “greatest generation” for selling out to the Jews. But, sadly, Trinity has not heard the news. FDR, like Teddy and Eleanor, was descended from the biggest pair of slave-trading Jews, the Roosevelt brothers. Truman’s only child Margaret, was married to a Jew, Daniels. Eisenhower’s class yearbook at West Point refers to him as a Swedish Jew. That’s why it was a big deal when Billy Graham baptised his brother, Milton, president of Johns Hopkins. LBJ was a secret Sephardic Jew, as Salvador Astucia establishes in his book about the Kennedy assassination. It was very much a Jewish act for him to help the Israelis murder Kennedy. Christopher Bollyn discovered that the head of the Jews in America in the 1700s was a Bush. Since the Jews went from slave traders to paricipants in the Jew-organised Opium Wars that’s a place to look for the Bush family history. Hillary had one Jewish grandparent and she’s milking that for all it’s worth, including framing stories of the mishpucha. And Obama’s mother’s family had a good mixture of Judaic in their makeup, including her participation in pornography and miscegenation with Obama’s biological father, Frank Marshall Davis, a communist activist. Orange Man Trump is, as his elder brother confessed to his frat brothers at his Jewish fraternity at Lehigh, the son of a German Jew father pretending to be a Christian.

    So you see, Trinity, these guys were not after all selling out their own people to the Jews. The Jews were their people.

  • @Skeptikal
    @Dave Bowman

    The Epstein-Maxwell story is not about sex. It is about politics. Sex is just the plot driver.

    Replies: @restless94110

    Exactly It has nothing to do with sex or so-called “victims.” It’s all about the ruining of the Western structure of justice under attack by hateful puritans and feminists.

  • @Alden
    @Dave Bowman

    Restless94110, Curmudgeon and a few others spend so much time wanking away on porn sites like Horny Teen Harlots Love Creepy Old Codgers their brains have significantly deteriorated.

    Their ignorance of the criminal justice system from the initial police report, through investigation, rules of evidence, criminal procedure, pretending that age of consent and prostitution are the same thing isn’t low IQ. It’s just proof that they are either molesters of underage minors or wannabe molesters of underage minors who spend their lives wanking away watching porn sites like Horny Young Hatlots Love Creepy Old Codgers.

    And even , pretending to be unaware that , interstate transport of anyone of any age for prostitution and other illegal sexual acts is a violation of 18 USC SS 2421 2422 2423 2424 2425 passed in 1910 by an all male senate and congress

    If they keep up advocating sex with under age minors I hope law enforcement flags them. They deserve it.

    Replies: @restless94110

    People that disagree with you and question the law and the overzealous prosecutors lead you to conclude nasty stupidities. You rattle off a few statutes and some laws and that makes you think you are making a point.

    In this case, the law is an ass. And people like you who quote the law are asses.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @restless94110

    The law is the law. Violators will be investigated prosecuted convicted and punished. The statute of limitations on rape and molestation of minors was extended decades ago.

    You don’t know that the statutes of limitations on the crimes Maxwell committed was extended decades ago. I do know their crimes fall with the statute of limitations

    You’re wrong because you’re just defending Jewish pimps and molesters if underage minors. What matters here is the law.

    Fluid over time and place means that Maxwell the pimp and her molesters of underaged girls will be investigated at the time (now) and place (America, specifically New York and Florida)

    What was done against those girls was a crime when it was done, falls within the statute of limitations and is a crime now

    Replies: @restless94110

  • @Dave Bowman
    @restless94110


    I do not get why anyone on Earth cares about Epstein, Maxwell, and Dersh
     
    Interesting. That would suggest to any impartial observer that you simply do not possess the intellect necessary to comprehend the legal issues involved. Your problem - not mine.

    The “charges” are spurious and over 2 decades old
     
    2 decades or 10 - the length of time passed is irrelevant. The spuriousness or otherwise of the charges is precisely the issue for which the legally-constituted Court of Prosecution is set up and is scheduled to debate. In the meantime, your opinion is worthless.

    This is garden variety escort work
     
    Solicitation, transportation, pimping and imprisonment of Minors for sexual purposes is illegal in every civilised nation on earth. Is that what you believe is "garden variety escort work" ? You must have had a strange - and very illegal - life.

    I’m pretty sure Maxwell will walk
     
    We'll see. In the meantime, as above, your opinion is worthless.

    I don’t care who Dersh had sex with and either should you or anyone
     
    No one in their right mind gives a shit whether the lying, degenerate, paedophile scumbag Dershowitz has shafted every donkey and camel in the Negev. The question is, whether or not he should be in prison for felony convictions as above.

    Please don't reply. Your ignorance is lowering the site's average IQ.

    Replies: @Alden, @Skeptikal, @restless94110

    nteresting. That would suggest to any impartial observer that you simply do not possess the intellect necessary to comprehend the legal issues involved. Your problem – not mine.

    It might suggest it to you, but you would be wrong. Furthermore you are hardly impartial.

    2 decades or 10 – the length of time passed is irrelevant. The spuriousness or otherwise of the charges is precisely the issue for which the legally-constituted Court of Prosecution is set up and is scheduled to debate. In the meantime, your opinion is worthless.

    This would suggest to the impartial observer that you simply do not possess the intellect necessary to comprehend the legal issues involved in statute of limitations rules that have governed jurisprudence for centuries.

    Solicitation, transportation, pimping and imprisonment of Minors for sexual purposes is illegal in every civilised nation on earth. Is that what you believe is “garden variety escort work” ? You must have had a strange – and very illegal – life.

    The terms you use are not proven and the age of minority is fluid over time and throughout all civilized societies. The hysterical screaming is over common garden variety sex escort work. Talking nonsense using common scare words does not change it. The girls were paid for sex. They were not forced. They were not imprisoned. Period.

    We’ll see. In the meantime, as above, your opinion is worthless.

    As is yours. Especially yours.

    No one in their right mind gives a shit whether the lying, degenerate, paedophile scumbag Dershowitz has shafted every donkey and camel in the Negev. The question is, whether or not he should be in prison for felony convictions as above.

    No one in their right mind gives a shit about your hateful prejudiced spew. You lower the collective IQ of the world with your nonsense.

    Please don’t reply and make yourself look worse than you have already made yourself so far.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
    @restless94110


    ...statute of limitations rules...
     
    Those limitations don't invalidate any crime, just whether they can be prosecuted or not.

    Is that your daughter over there...?
  • @sarz
    @Alden


    Epstein Maxwell may or may not have murdered some one.
     
    Epstein and Maxwell's big sin was not the Judaic sexual violation of Christian girls. Don't forget the Moloch temple. Look up Laurent Guyénot's articles here to see what that's about. Maria Farmer says she can't understand why there are so few girls coming forth. There were thousands she says.

    Think of Epstein and Maxwell as Judaic hierophants paid for by the top level of satanic Jews. Maria says that Ghislaine has intimate connections with the Rothschilds and British royalty (whose family got their postion as the servants of the big Jews).

    When Epstein's arrest was imminent he bought a large cement truck at urgent premium for delivery to his island. What was that about if not to get rid of the stains of satanically violated and sacrificed children? The entrance was from some enclosed space below, where it seems a small sub could dock. Ghislaine has shown off about having helicopter snd submarine licences.

    Replies: @Alden

    You reminded me of horrible crimes against teen boys and young men when I was a Probation Officer. I had nothing to do with it, but I heard about it because some San Francisco gay sadist perverts were involved. One owned a well known restaurant.

    The murderer kidnappers weren’t famous or powerful like Dirtshowitz, but they spent a lot of money on their torture murder chamber.

    The state charges were tried in some rural Texas county because they had the best evidence. The federal charges tried in one of the big cities in Texas, I forget which one.

    Anyway they kidnapped teens and young men all over the south west and Louisiana and brought them to a country place in rural Texas. Some of the boys were probably hookers. Others were approached in the parks playing basketball. Swimming pools, Video game arcades. Others were just grabbed off the street, man handled into a van, gagged cuffed and wrist and ankles and given a shot of morphine, heroin something to keep them groggy.

    Gay Perverts came from all over the country to enjoy raping torturing and murdering the boys. One thing the gay perverts enjoyed was this.

    Several sheets of 3/4 plywood were glued and nailed together. Then a naked boy was positioned kneeling with his legs spread butt up head down. Then his arms and calves were fastened to the plywood. Then his hands ankles feet and ankles were nailed to the plywood, then they got raped till they died.

    There were all sorts of dungeons whips torture instruments etc

    About 40 boys were killed. I remember that the gay perverts didn’t do the spotting and kidnapping and running the prison the boys were held in. They just flew in to enjoy the torturing and murdering. They had to pay for their pleasures, joining a secret club with a big membership fee and extra whenever they cane to to enjoy the activities.

    If some moderately rich men could run an operation like this, think what Epstein Maxwell and Werner could do with the hundreds of millions at their disposal.

    John Wayne Gary managed to murder and hide under his house about 25-30? young men with no help from anyone.

    His MO was to go to bars near factories warehouses auto repair shops etc on Friday night. He’d start talking to a young man. Tell the man he was a carpenter doing a big remodel job somewhere and he needed extra help on weekends. So the arrangement would be made, I’ll pick you up at 8AM tomorrow.

    Or he’d tell the victim he had some good weed at home or anything to entice the victim to go to his house.

    Gay perverts sometimes torture and murder. Hetero perverts do the same thing.

    That Texas thing was really shocking. Glad I wasn’t involved.

  • @Trinity
    Didn't this douchebag already admit that he received a massage while only wearing his underwear? Of course, nothing wrong with stripping down to your underwear to receive a LEGIT massage if it is a grown ass lady massaging you. HOWEVER, the weird thing is when a crusty, dried up, old man strips down to his undies to be massaged by a teenage girl. Not kosher at all, Shlomo. This weirdo admitting he stripped down to his undies to receive a massage from a GIRL is enough to discredit him IF we lived in a healthy and sane environment. At the very least, this clown should not be appearing on Fox News or anywhere else UNTIL HE CLEARS HIS NAME. I will still say innocent until proven guilty, but this guy looks guilty as hell. Lets hope THE TRUTH PREVAILS.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Alden

    Chester the molester Harvard prof. “ Jeffrey, I’d like you to meet the famous defense attorney, Alan Dershowitz “

    Epstein “. I’ve wanted to meet you for a long time”. I’m in New York for a few weeks. Chester is coming down next weekend. Would you like to join him at my house for lunch and a massage”

    Dershowitz “. I’ve heard so much about you and your contributions to science technology and Harvard. I’m delighted to join you for lunch and a massage next weekend.”

    Chester the molester “ great, let’s schedule for Saturday, and we can fly down together”

  • @Skeptikal
    @Rubicon

    To understand how the Jews took over the USA, read Gus Russo, Supermob.
    It starts with the lawyers, interacting with and acting for mobsters.
    It is all about money.
    Skimming, hiding, every thing you can do with money to avoid paying any taxes, but instead use it to buy influence so that you remain (1) undetected, and (2) can make more money to hide and use to buy influence (including cultural influence). Wash and repeat at ever higher levels of influence and "respect." Don't forget the philanthropic money laundering!

    The story of how Jewish power originating in Chicago took over the labor movement, robbed the pension funds, then California (not just Hollywood but the the whole political apparatus), Nevada, Arizona, television . . .

    It is breathtaking. Everyone who comments here should read this book.

    Just the story of the Sunrise Hospital in Las Vegas is incredible---how the deals were made with the Teamsters.

    You will be flabbergasted.

    You will not longer be stabbing around in the dark as to how the Jews took over the USA and subverted the purposes of the American govt. It is all about Benjamins. And the Jews, of course.
    They already started playing the "anti-semitism" card in the '30s and '40s to fend off legitimate investigations.

    Once you look at the phrase "avoid paying taxes" you can't help notice that this is one of the main prerogatives of the British royal family (the queen pays a bit of tax, but the *wealth* is untaxed, and the taxpayers actually pay the royal family!!) , and naturally the raison d'etre of all the offshore tax havens spawned by the City of London after the UK "lost" WW2. Basically this issue of tax havens is a spinoff of the normal mob mission, which is to make money and keep it all, using to do so all of the infrastructure of a civilized country whose taxpayers have paid for said infrastructure, but contributing nothing (excpet maybe some paltry "philanthropy" for window dressing).

    It is incredible, when one thinks about it, that the Brits keep on letting the royal family rob them blind.
    https://www.statista.com/chart/18569/total-cost-of-the-uks-royal-family-by-year/

    All of these supergrifters are parasites on the hosts where they live.
    Maybe not so bad in Europe, but give it time . . .

    Replies: @Art, @Alden

    I have Supermob, great book

  • @restless94110
    @Alden

    But of course you illustrate so eloquently that it should not be illegal as should not all of the constructs you listed. So eloquently.

    Replies: @Alden

    You opinion and my opinion about underage prostitution don’t mean a thing. It’s not a matter of should or should not be illegal.

    It’s a fact that the activities you advocate are already illegal. The law is the law. Violate it and face the consequences as Maxwell will.

    • Replies: @restless94110
    @Alden

    No one cares at all about people who sell sex for money except hysterical females over 50. So why do you?

    I advocate nothing, fool. It's illegal to smoke weed. Are you advocating long sentences for weed smokers? It sounds like you are. You really just hate human behavior, don't you?

    The law is an ass. Violate it and face draconian cruel and unusual punishments (something prevented supposedly by the Constitution).

    Hang 'em high, citizen fascist. Against the founding principles of the United States. You fiddle while Rome burns. What a fool.

    Maxwell faces no consequences for anything. She will walk within 12 months.

    Replies: @acementhead

  • @Curmudgeon
    @Hubert

    1. I agree with you about quotations and showing scant regard. However, context is also important. I dealt with "journalists" during my work life, and was an interim spokesperson several times. While individual journalists contacted me before publication or broadcast to apologize for what was coming, it is the ownership that drives the bus, and the ownership literally owns the editors. My point is that what Dershowitz has done is accepted as normal, except when it runs contrary to the media narrative.

    2. Deliberately misleading is lying. So is placing stories or quotes out of context. Farmer claims that Dersh "met" Epstein previously. What does "met" mean? I have "met" hundreds of people that I wouldn't recognize and had nothing to do with, post "meeting". The latter includes several politicians, and famous entertainers, who probably would not remember "meeting" me. This goes to the entire bullshit method of "ties". Am I "tied" to someone I met through a friend but have never seen again?

    3. My point about Farmer is that she is telling a story that may, or may not be true. While Whitney Webb has done some excellent work, there is a whole lot of, as yet, uncorroborated statements made by a lot of people, including Farmer that she accepts as fact. There is no evidence of the author of this article scrutinizing Farmer's narrative (or Webb's) in the way he scrutinized Dersh O'Shits.

    No one here, including Alden, actually "knows" anything. Statements and depositions, until proven, are nothing but accusations.

    Replies: @Hubert, @Art, @anon, @Alden

    I may not know the facts of the case, but I do know the laws re underage prostitution and transporting persons across state borders for the purposes of prostitution and illegal sex acts.

  • @Skeptikal
    @Rubicon

    To understand how the Jews took over the USA, read Gus Russo, Supermob.
    It starts with the lawyers, interacting with and acting for mobsters.
    It is all about money.
    Skimming, hiding, every thing you can do with money to avoid paying any taxes, but instead use it to buy influence so that you remain (1) undetected, and (2) can make more money to hide and use to buy influence (including cultural influence). Wash and repeat at ever higher levels of influence and "respect." Don't forget the philanthropic money laundering!

    The story of how Jewish power originating in Chicago took over the labor movement, robbed the pension funds, then California (not just Hollywood but the the whole political apparatus), Nevada, Arizona, television . . .

    It is breathtaking. Everyone who comments here should read this book.

    Just the story of the Sunrise Hospital in Las Vegas is incredible---how the deals were made with the Teamsters.

    You will be flabbergasted.

    You will not longer be stabbing around in the dark as to how the Jews took over the USA and subverted the purposes of the American govt. It is all about Benjamins. And the Jews, of course.
    They already started playing the "anti-semitism" card in the '30s and '40s to fend off legitimate investigations.

    Once you look at the phrase "avoid paying taxes" you can't help notice that this is one of the main prerogatives of the British royal family (the queen pays a bit of tax, but the *wealth* is untaxed, and the taxpayers actually pay the royal family!!) , and naturally the raison d'etre of all the offshore tax havens spawned by the City of London after the UK "lost" WW2. Basically this issue of tax havens is a spinoff of the normal mob mission, which is to make money and keep it all, using to do so all of the infrastructure of a civilized country whose taxpayers have paid for said infrastructure, but contributing nothing (excpet maybe some paltry "philanthropy" for window dressing).

    It is incredible, when one thinks about it, that the Brits keep on letting the royal family rob them blind.
    https://www.statista.com/chart/18569/total-cost-of-the-uks-royal-family-by-year/

    All of these supergrifters are parasites on the hosts where they live.
    Maybe not so bad in Europe, but give it time . . .

    Replies: @Art, @Alden

    The story of how Jewish power originating in Chicago took over the labor movement, robbed the pension funds, then California (not just Hollywood but the the whole political apparatus), Nevada, Arizona, television . . .

    Here is Ron Unz on the subject.

    American Pravda: the Power of Organized Crime
    How a Young Syndicate Lawyer from Chicago Earned a Fortune Looting the Property of the Japanese-Americans, then Lived Happily Ever After as America’s Most Respected Civil Libertarian Federal Appellate Court Judge.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-power-of-organized-crime/

  • @Dave Bowman
    @restless94110


    I do not get why anyone on Earth cares about Epstein, Maxwell, and Dersh
     
    Interesting. That would suggest to any impartial observer that you simply do not possess the intellect necessary to comprehend the legal issues involved. Your problem - not mine.

    The “charges” are spurious and over 2 decades old
     
    2 decades or 10 - the length of time passed is irrelevant. The spuriousness or otherwise of the charges is precisely the issue for which the legally-constituted Court of Prosecution is set up and is scheduled to debate. In the meantime, your opinion is worthless.

    This is garden variety escort work
     
    Solicitation, transportation, pimping and imprisonment of Minors for sexual purposes is illegal in every civilised nation on earth. Is that what you believe is "garden variety escort work" ? You must have had a strange - and very illegal - life.

    I’m pretty sure Maxwell will walk
     
    We'll see. In the meantime, as above, your opinion is worthless.

    I don’t care who Dersh had sex with and either should you or anyone
     
    No one in their right mind gives a shit whether the lying, degenerate, paedophile scumbag Dershowitz has shafted every donkey and camel in the Negev. The question is, whether or not he should be in prison for felony convictions as above.

    Please don't reply. Your ignorance is lowering the site's average IQ.

    Replies: @Alden, @Skeptikal, @restless94110

    The Epstein-Maxwell story is not about sex. It is about politics. Sex is just the plot driver.

    • Replies: @restless94110
    @Skeptikal

    Exactly It has nothing to do with sex or so-called "victims." It's all about the ruining of the Western structure of justice under attack by hateful puritans and feminists.

  • anon[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Curmudgeon
    @Hubert

    1. I agree with you about quotations and showing scant regard. However, context is also important. I dealt with "journalists" during my work life, and was an interim spokesperson several times. While individual journalists contacted me before publication or broadcast to apologize for what was coming, it is the ownership that drives the bus, and the ownership literally owns the editors. My point is that what Dershowitz has done is accepted as normal, except when it runs contrary to the media narrative.

    2. Deliberately misleading is lying. So is placing stories or quotes out of context. Farmer claims that Dersh "met" Epstein previously. What does "met" mean? I have "met" hundreds of people that I wouldn't recognize and had nothing to do with, post "meeting". The latter includes several politicians, and famous entertainers, who probably would not remember "meeting" me. This goes to the entire bullshit method of "ties". Am I "tied" to someone I met through a friend but have never seen again?

    3. My point about Farmer is that she is telling a story that may, or may not be true. While Whitney Webb has done some excellent work, there is a whole lot of, as yet, uncorroborated statements made by a lot of people, including Farmer that she accepts as fact. There is no evidence of the author of this article scrutinizing Farmer's narrative (or Webb's) in the way he scrutinized Dersh O'Shits.

    No one here, including Alden, actually "knows" anything. Statements and depositions, until proven, are nothing but accusations.

    Replies: @Hubert, @Art, @anon, @Alden

    ” I have “met” hundreds of people that I wouldn’t recognize and had nothing to do with, post “
    Countries have managed to wage wars because someone met somebody Countries have managed to put people away in Gitmo because someone met somebody . Sometimes somebody lied about meeting someone making that a crime worthy of getting removed from society for years .

    That argument and consequences must have been heard many times but Dershowitz himself just like any other avid supporters of that arguments and the consequences .

    Unlike these girls,Dershowitz is known to have made atrocious claims ,have disparaged less powerful ,people have forced universities to capitulate and raised the specter of financial squeezing of the institutes. He has a background that these girls dont have . He is lawyer with no moral bone .

    By the way , why these people from Clinton to Prince Andrew – why were they meeting Epstein and meeting him in a sordid island known for being nothing but a sex lab? Were they planning next golf outing or next injection of the heroin ? Were they discussing state polices on health education or finances ?

    Did Epstein meet with any person ever who did not have either money or status as a celebrity ?

    • Replies: @anon
    @anon

    Dershowitz called Binary a Nazi , railed against S African civil rights lawyer with most vicious language who documented Israeli atrocities against Gaza requested by UN . Dershowitz lobbies for the criminal Israeli looter, Dan Gertler, defended the repulsive Steve Bannon, decried Daniel Berrigan, the heroic pacifist priest as anti semite

    He said : “Israel must always remain a bipartisan issue. We never want to see Israel become a referendum issue in an election. Why? We could lose! … Who could have predicted the outcome of the last election. You can’t put all your eggs in one basket” at a pep talk on Jewish influence to an orthodox audience in Scarsdale .

    His opinion about anti Zionst academic!! “ The dog “, "3rd rate “ , who won’t get job because they are attack dog -attacking Israel !


    About his tribe "People write a book called the Israel lobby and complain that AIPAC is one of the most powerful lobbies in Washington. My response to that is, that’s not good enough. We should be the most powerful lobby in Washington….

    We are entitled to use our power. We have contributed disproportionately to the success of this country. We have done so much for this country. When you think of how much better this country has become since our grandparents and great grandparents took the risk of coming, here, we have not only the right we have the obligation to speak out, and use every piece, every bit of power available in support of Israel.”


    https://mondoweiss.net/2017/05/influence-dershowitz-scarsdale/


    Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz encouraged his audience to blackmail academic institutions into giving Israel their undivided loyalty and support, during a book signing at New York’s Young Israel of Scarsdale synagogue.

    “We have to hit them in the pocketbook. Don’t ever, ever, be embarrassed about using Jewish power,” Dershowitz said, according to online media outlet Mondoweiss.

    “Jewish power, whether it be intellectual, academic, economic, political – in the interest of justice is the right thing to do.” https://english.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2017/5/11/harvard-professor-suggests-whitewashing-israel-crimes-with-jewish-power


    This cheap man doesn’t want American voters decide how USA should deal with Israel He wants some bribed AIPAC endorsed lawmakers do that .

    Replies: @Anonymous

  • I notice that Harvard has recently honoured Alan Dershowitz. Aside from the examples of dishonesty and sloppiness outlined and referred to in this article, can anyone – ANYONE, actually point me to his legal scholarship (papers in journals, original legal scholarship etc.). I haven’t been able to track down anything and on his website under ‘Scholarly Writings’ are journalistic hit pieces written for the Gatestone Institute https://theintercept.com/2018/03/23/gatestone-institute-john-bolton-chairs-an-actual-fake-news-publisher-infamous-for-spreading-anti-muslim-hate/ . Do write here if you can find anything – surely Harvard is supposed to have SOME strandards!

  • @Rubicon
    Let's stop even for 2 minutes and put into perpsective the huge difference between Jewish Power in
    the US vs in Europe.

    The difference is quite remarkable.
    I have a very close Italian friend who is very well educated and well-informed of societal/financial/economic interests in Europe and elsewhere.

    When I relate to him some of the nonsense going on with Jewish power in the US, my friend clearly states that most all Jews in Western Europe do NOT behave as does Dershowitz and others of his kind.
    He states: tens of thousands of Jews have NOT infiltrated each nation's federal/regional/local governments. Ditto with their legal, judicial, financial systems. It's a stark contrast to the American scene.

    We think it has to do with Europe being around the block for several centuries, where the moneyed people very closely preserve their riches for several generations, even centuries.

    Instead, American Jews have been able to infiltrate thousands of times over in capturing both huge amounts of wealth, but prestige, too.

    It's a remarkable difference and you may want to consider this.

    Replies: @Art, @Skeptikal

    To understand how the Jews took over the USA, read Gus Russo, Supermob.
    It starts with the lawyers, interacting with and acting for mobsters.
    It is all about money.
    Skimming, hiding, every thing you can do with money to avoid paying any taxes, but instead use it to buy influence so that you remain (1) undetected, and (2) can make more money to hide and use to buy influence (including cultural influence). Wash and repeat at ever higher levels of influence and “respect.” Don’t forget the philanthropic money laundering!

    The story of how Jewish power originating in Chicago took over the labor movement, robbed the pension funds, then California (not just Hollywood but the the whole political apparatus), Nevada, Arizona, television . . .

    It is breathtaking. Everyone who comments here should read this book.

    Just the story of the Sunrise Hospital in Las Vegas is incredible—how the deals were made with the Teamsters.

    You will be flabbergasted.

    You will not longer be stabbing around in the dark as to how the Jews took over the USA and subverted the purposes of the American govt. It is all about Benjamins. And the Jews, of course.
    They already started playing the “anti-semitism” card in the ’30s and ’40s to fend off legitimate investigations.

    Once you look at the phrase “avoid paying taxes” you can’t help notice that this is one of the main prerogatives of the British royal family (the queen pays a bit of tax, but the *wealth* is untaxed, and the taxpayers actually pay the royal family!!) , and naturally the raison d’etre of all the offshore tax havens spawned by the City of London after the UK “lost” WW2. Basically this issue of tax havens is a spinoff of the normal mob mission, which is to make money and keep it all, using to do so all of the infrastructure of a civilized country whose taxpayers have paid for said infrastructure, but contributing nothing (excpet maybe some paltry “philanthropy” for window dressing).

    It is incredible, when one thinks about it, that the Brits keep on letting the royal family rob them blind.
    https://www.statista.com/chart/18569/total-cost-of-the-uks-royal-family-by-year/

    All of these supergrifters are parasites on the hosts where they live.
    Maybe not so bad in Europe, but give it time . . .

    • Replies: @Art
    @Skeptikal

    The story of how Jewish power originating in Chicago took over the labor movement, robbed the pension funds, then California (not just Hollywood but the the whole political apparatus), Nevada, Arizona, television . . .

    Here is Ron Unz on the subject.

    American Pravda: the Power of Organized Crime
    How a Young Syndicate Lawyer from Chicago Earned a Fortune Looting the Property of the Japanese-Americans, then Lived Happily Ever After as America's Most Respected Civil Libertarian Federal Appellate Court Judge.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-power-of-organized-crime/

    , @Alden
    @Skeptikal

    I have Supermob, great book

  • @Curmudgeon
    @Art

    From my original reply to Hubert:


    At some point, all Jews under attack play the “J card”. It is no different than visible minorities screaming screaming “racism” when things are not going their way.
     
    which is why I stated that what Dersh has done is accepted as normal, unless it runs counter to the media narrative. In this case, the media narrative is going to hang him out to dry, but leave Jews untouched.

    My only "support" for Dersh is that the media has already tried and convicted him, Maxwell, and others, when, other than statements by women making allegations, there is no hard evidence, only inference.

    Replies: @Alden, @Art, @Alden

    How can you say the media has “ convicted “ him when he hasn’t even been interviewed by investigators or charged by prosecutors?

    You’re such a moron you don’t even know what conviction or convicted means.

    The media is Jewish and I haven’t seen anything either written on the internet it TV news that the media has convicted the Jew Dershowitz. If anything the media is covering it up because he is Jewish.

    Look up conviction and spare us your moronic ignorance.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
    @Alden

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conviction

    Note 2a

  • @Alan Marson
    @Alden


    A moron who insisted Virginia was over the age of consent because she was 17. A moron who doesn’t even know the age of consent in Florida was and is 18.
     
    I'm aware of the Florida law. I'm pointing out that the laws do vary by geographic location, indicating that any kind of mass consensus on morality, simply does not exist. Some people don't think laws should be based on arbitrary distinctions and emotion. What I think has happened is that men were given the right to vote at 18 because they were considered conscriptable at that age (that's the age at which males are considered physically mature). 18 then became a sort of magic legal number. Ages of consent (in many jurisdictions in the western world) have been steadily creeping upwards and I think that female political power is the reason. Women want to be infantilized, but they never want to admit it.

    As for prostitution, you sure are in full-on white knight mode about it. I hope your white knighting augments your social status or whatever it is you think you're hoping to achieve with it. Many things could be defined as prostitution. Men provide, women give sex in return. That's the basis of marriage, btw. Anyway even Guiffre was effectively a prostitute, I don't see why she had to go along with it. She could have said "no" and left the island but she wanted to be there.

    BTW I notice you excitedly citing laws X,Y,and Z. Pretty soon web sites such as Unz will be illegal in the US (hate speech laws A, B and C, you know). When that happens are you still going to be all preachy about the law?

    Replies: @Alden

    I’m not a knight. I’m not eligible to be a knight. The law is the law. Court rulings set precedents that become law. Go back to wanking away as you watch your favorite porn site Horny Young Harlots Love Creepy Old Codgers.

    Everybody defends what they like and approve of. You are defending molesters of underage minors. Doesn’t matter what you think or do. The law is the law. Get caught with a girl you think is a hot and horny teen harlot and accept the consequences.

    Or find a woman your own age.

    When I was a probation officer there were some black molesters of their underage nieces daughters sisters and grand daughters.

    Like you, they thought they did nothing wrong.
    Like you they thought the laws were unjust. Like you they had many arguments against the laws; especially “ isn’t it better she learns from her father than some kid”

    Unlike you, they went to prison for molesting underage girls.

    Or maybe you’re in a prison library typing justifications of illegal sex acts with underage minors because you got caught.

    • Replies: @Alan Marson
    @Alden


    Everybody defends what they like and approve of. You are defending molesters of underage minors. Doesn’t matter what you think or do. The law is the law. Get caught with a girl you think is a hot and horny teen harlot and accept the consequences.
     
    For one thing, what I personally want in life and what I think should be legal are two different (albeit not entirely independent) things. For example I don't drink or take recreational drugs, but I oppose prohibition entirely, simply because I don't want to empower guys like you (or the criminal organizations who are effectively granted a monopoly by virtue of market being illegal to enter). For another thing, I advise everyone to be maximally aware of the law in all things sexual. So, were I to advise someone, for his own good, I would certainly advise him to never to run afoul of one of these laws.

    So you say you've been hanging around sex offenders, some of whom have said similar things to what I previously said. I don't know their individual cases. Certainly I would never say that it's OK to have any kind of sexual relations with a family member, especially a daughter or grand daughter, so as far as I am concerned you just clouded the issue with a giant straw man. Epstein wasn't like that. He was a rich moneybags and young females were attracted to that even if they generally ended up with a sour aftertaste. OTO I have no doubt that some of the offenders you worked were indeed hard done by by the law (but without seeing the individual cases for myself I couldn't say for sure).

    So I gather you want anyone who enunciates non status-quo opinions on this subject flagged by LE. You're swimming in a sea of hypocricy here without even seeing it. Before you carry on about how the laws says this and the law says that, take a look in the mirror. If you live in Florida, your opinions may be illegal under their new "anti-Semitism" law. Even supporting BDS may violate the law in Florida. Expect more of these laws to crop up with minimal resistance from the courts. That's the direction of things. Also Donald Trump signed a new executive order that directs the government to investigate anti-Semitism, so according to the law, the federal government now has an actual mandate to investigate you. As for me, I've one of those highly unfashionable people who believes in free speech.
  • @Dave Bowman
    @restless94110


    I do not get why anyone on Earth cares about Epstein, Maxwell, and Dersh
     
    Interesting. That would suggest to any impartial observer that you simply do not possess the intellect necessary to comprehend the legal issues involved. Your problem - not mine.

    The “charges” are spurious and over 2 decades old
     
    2 decades or 10 - the length of time passed is irrelevant. The spuriousness or otherwise of the charges is precisely the issue for which the legally-constituted Court of Prosecution is set up and is scheduled to debate. In the meantime, your opinion is worthless.

    This is garden variety escort work
     
    Solicitation, transportation, pimping and imprisonment of Minors for sexual purposes is illegal in every civilised nation on earth. Is that what you believe is "garden variety escort work" ? You must have had a strange - and very illegal - life.

    I’m pretty sure Maxwell will walk
     
    We'll see. In the meantime, as above, your opinion is worthless.

    I don’t care who Dersh had sex with and either should you or anyone
     
    No one in their right mind gives a shit whether the lying, degenerate, paedophile scumbag Dershowitz has shafted every donkey and camel in the Negev. The question is, whether or not he should be in prison for felony convictions as above.

    Please don't reply. Your ignorance is lowering the site's average IQ.

    Replies: @Alden, @Skeptikal, @restless94110

    Restless94110, Curmudgeon and a few others spend so much time wanking away on porn sites like Horny Teen Harlots Love Creepy Old Codgers their brains have significantly deteriorated.

    Their ignorance of the criminal justice system from the initial police report, through investigation, rules of evidence, criminal procedure, pretending that age of consent and prostitution are the same thing isn’t low IQ. It’s just proof that they are either molesters of underage minors or wannabe molesters of underage minors who spend their lives wanking away watching porn sites like Horny Young Hatlots Love Creepy Old Codgers.

    And even , pretending to be unaware that , interstate transport of anyone of any age for prostitution and other illegal sexual acts is a violation of 18 USC SS 2421 2422 2423 2424 2425 passed in 1910 by an all male senate and congress

    If they keep up advocating sex with under age minors I hope law enforcement flags them. They deserve it.

    • Replies: @restless94110
    @Alden

    People that disagree with you and question the law and the overzealous prosecutors lead you to conclude nasty stupidities. You rattle off a few statutes and some laws and that makes you think you are making a point.

    In this case, the law is an ass. And people like you who quote the law are asses.

    Replies: @Alden

  • @Druid
    @chuckywiz

    One big difference is that 99% of jews will ultimately side with each other against everybody else. It’s a Talmud and a tribal/club thing. Other people’s don’t support their horrible leaders blindly in such numbers!

    Replies: @Trinity

    MOST nonwhites support their own kind no matter what they do, especially Blacks. How many Blacks stood up and said they knew OJ Simpson was guilty? Case closed. Whites are the only group that will go against their own kind even when they know their own kind is telling the truth. Whites attack Whites who dare and stand up for their own rights, go figure that one out. I guess a lot of Whites love being treated like shit.

  • @Curmudgeon
    @Art

    From my original reply to Hubert:


    At some point, all Jews under attack play the “J card”. It is no different than visible minorities screaming screaming “racism” when things are not going their way.
     
    which is why I stated that what Dersh has done is accepted as normal, unless it runs counter to the media narrative. In this case, the media narrative is going to hang him out to dry, but leave Jews untouched.

    My only "support" for Dersh is that the media has already tried and convicted him, Maxwell, and others, when, other than statements by women making allegations, there is no hard evidence, only inference.

    Replies: @Alden, @Art, @Alden

    My only “support” for Dersh is that the media has already tried and convicted him, Maxwell, and others, when, other than statements by women making allegations, there is no hard evidence, only inference.

    Really — I think you are defending them because they are Jews. One Jew defending another Jew, not matter what – is the norm.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
    @Art

    I'm not a Jew, but I am acquainted with several, and have had dealings with them for over 50 years. They are not a monolith, except for those active participants of organized Jewry, in which Maxwell and Dershowitz are well established, which is a monolith.
    It would make no difference to me whether they were Roman Catholics, Baptists or Jains. Trial by opinion is dangerous for everyone.

    Replies: @Alden, @Art

  • @Curmudgeon
    @Art

    From my original reply to Hubert:


    At some point, all Jews under attack play the “J card”. It is no different than visible minorities screaming screaming “racism” when things are not going their way.
     
    which is why I stated that what Dersh has done is accepted as normal, unless it runs counter to the media narrative. In this case, the media narrative is going to hang him out to dry, but leave Jews untouched.

    My only "support" for Dersh is that the media has already tried and convicted him, Maxwell, and others, when, other than statements by women making allegations, there is no hard evidence, only inference.

    Replies: @Alden, @Art, @Alden

    The evidence was collected between 2004-2006 by the Palm Beach Police Department, New York City PD and the FBI.

    Police listen to allegations, then do a preliminary investigation. A decision is made to either drop the matter because no evidence if found, or continue the evidence until indictable evidence is found.

    In the cases of Epstein and Maxwell, plenty of indictable evidence was found. In the case of Dershowitz indictable evidence has not been found. Such evidence may or may not yet be found.

    You’re just another creepy old pervert like Epstein who thinks 14 year old girls should be available to you. That’s why you are defending the molesters of underage minors.

    • Troll: Hubert
  • @Miro23
    @Colin Wright



    ‘… Don’t know about the legal courts, but in the court of public opinion – Dershowitz trashing Farmer, is a loser for the tribe…’
     
    It’s only a loser for the tribe if it gets mainstream media attention.

    I’ll be overjoyed to be proven wrong, but watch the curtain of silence descend.
     
    That's assuming that the MSM has the power that it once had. Their 2016 anti-Trump attacks were blatant lies and smears that lost them plenty of credibility with the public (Trump got elected despite their best efforts), and the MSM is having trouble controlling internet news sources (example RT). Then there's the iconic 9/11 story that has gone from full acceptance to a majority opinion of lies and fakery. Somehow the truth filters out - and as it does - the risks for insiders rise and they tend to jump ship or get cancelled by their own team (Dershowitz?)

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘That’s assuming that the MSM has the power that it once had…’

    To be frank, I wonder. I had an exchange today with a true believer in the virus. A year and a half ago I watched the Superbowl with a casual acquaintance — and I was taken aback to hear him seriously arguing that sexually integrated combat units are a good idea. People really do still believe in Santa Claus.

    Particularly in the internet age, we can wind up off in these little intellectual sects — Unz Review would be a good example — where we start developing our own notion of what is ordinary received wisdom.

    An awful lot of people — most people? — still watch the mainstream media, think it all must be true, and believe what they’re told.

    To what extent the dominant paradigm is collapsing is a good question — and I’m not at all sure of the answer. It’s taken some pretty savage hits, that’s for sure — particularly over the last few months — but is it 30% intact, 65% intact, 95% intact? I don’t know.

  • @Art
    @Curmudgeon

    The Jews are in a self-imposed cultural trap, having to defend a real shithead.

    Don’t know about the legal courts, but in the court of public opinion – Dershowitz trashing Farmer, is a loser for the tribe. The problem is that more and more people know she is telling the truth about the elite Jews and the coercive tribe that backs them. They correctly see him as a bullying elite Jew, not as a victim.

    You can only go to the well so many times. Dershowitz is rapidly using up what little grace water the Jews have.

    From now on, every time Dershowitz opens his mouth using the Jew war cry of "anti-Semitism" - defending himself and attacking the true victim, he brings down the Jew tribe.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Curmudgeon

    From my original reply to Hubert:

    At some point, all Jews under attack play the “J card”. It is no different than visible minorities screaming screaming “racism” when things are not going their way.

    which is why I stated that what Dersh has done is accepted as normal, unless it runs counter to the media narrative. In this case, the media narrative is going to hang him out to dry, but leave Jews untouched.

    My only “support” for Dersh is that the media has already tried and convicted him, Maxwell, and others, when, other than statements by women making allegations, there is no hard evidence, only inference.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Curmudgeon

    The evidence was collected between 2004-2006 by the Palm Beach Police Department, New York City PD and the FBI.

    Police listen to allegations, then do a preliminary investigation. A decision is made to either drop the matter because no evidence if found, or continue the evidence until indictable evidence is found.

    In the cases of Epstein and Maxwell, plenty of indictable evidence was found. In the case of Dershowitz indictable evidence has not been found. Such evidence may or may not yet be found.

    You’re just another creepy old pervert like Epstein who thinks 14 year old girls should be available to you. That’s why you are defending the molesters of underage minors.

    , @Art
    @Curmudgeon


    My only “support” for Dersh is that the media has already tried and convicted him, Maxwell, and others, when, other than statements by women making allegations, there is no hard evidence, only inference.
     
    Really --- I think you are defending them because they are Jews. One Jew defending another Jew, not matter what - is the norm.

    Replies: @Curmudgeon

    , @Alden
    @Curmudgeon

    How can you say the media has “ convicted “ him when he hasn’t even been interviewed by investigators or charged by prosecutors?

    You’re such a moron you don’t even know what conviction or convicted means.

    The media is Jewish and I haven’t seen anything either written on the internet it TV news that the media has convicted the Jew Dershowitz. If anything the media is covering it up because he is Jewish.

    Look up conviction and spare us your moronic ignorance.

    Replies: @Curmudgeon

  • @Art
    @chris


    Funny how Maria’s interview should be linked here, days after Israel Shamir’s extremely transparent attempt to obfuscate and whitewash the whole thing. What a perfect refutation (FAIL!)
     
    Hear hear -- Shamir's article was a bait and switch ploy. He cited examples of unjust sexual attacks on Gentiles – then switched to defending obvious scumbag Jews like Weinstein and Epstein.

    How long will it be before the use of the words Weinstein and Epstein, will be considered “anti-Semitic?”

    This is another concrete example of how most all Jews, defend immoral Jews who have done wrong.

    Jews act together as a tribe – period.

    Replies: @chris

    Yeah, hi Art.

    I actually liked many of Israel Shamir’s articles and his unique take on most things, but the last one has made me a lot more weary of him than before. The last one was so easy to debunk that you’d have to take notice and to start questioning his trustworthiness completely.

    Once I got on that path I discovered one of the major inconsistencies about him which I hadn’t thought about before. For a convert to Orthodox Christianity, which he claims to be, he seems a little too proud of the purported sexual prowess of his youth. I mean, everyone might have indulged in something like that at one point or another in his life, but if at one point in your life you declare yourself a Christian, it seems a little odd that you would later bring this aspect of your youth up in glowing terms as much as he does. I mean, there are Christians of course who do that, but someone who took the step of converting, presumably in their adult life, I don’t know, you would assume a little more humility in “matters of the flesh” as they say. This is like a give-away that his story isn’t quite ‘kosher,’ as it were 🙂

    Still, the greatest contribution to these pages, for me is the thing he wrote about Putin, that Putin had been schooled in Jewish practices by friendly Jewish neighbors. Which is to say that Putin may be Jewish, because which system opportunistic Russian family might have, in Communist times risked taking religious instruction, and which Jewish family would have instructed a gentile in that matter? That might well be true and may explain certain things about Putin, certainly about how he was so positively accepted by Russia and the West, … initially.

    • Thanks: Art
  • @chuckywiz
    @Ann Nonny Mouse

    There got to be some way to differentiate the so called labels. Not All Israelis or all Jews are zionists. All Muslims are lumped into a very negative way. Consider Saudis, Qataris, and similar ignorant countries. Lot different than Indonesia (Largest Islamic country) Malaysia, Pakistan, Uzbekistan or even Russia (2nd largest population is Muslim after Orthodox). India-Modi's party does not reflect ordinary Indians. Not every Christians in US is Billy Graham or Jerry Fawlwell or Pat Robertson.

    The point is: if there is anything counter to the propaganda or lumping the entire population-- making it responsible for the actions of a few powerful. Time for the philosophers to chip in.

    I have been to Israel and have found a diversified public opinion on several issues that I dont find in US and its poodle states in Europe when it comes to action os Zionists.

    Glad to see something on this bully Dershowitz, over rated, and always using the word anti-semitism like using a big cross in front of Dracula to repel.

    Wonder if still is wearing same famous underwear as a proof for his innocence in rape charges.

    Replies: @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @Druid

    One big difference is that 99% of jews will ultimately side with each other against everybody else. It’s a Talmud and a tribal/club thing. Other people’s don’t support their horrible leaders blindly in such numbers!

    • Replies: @Trinity
    @Druid

    MOST nonwhites support their own kind no matter what they do, especially Blacks. How many Blacks stood up and said they knew OJ Simpson was guilty? Case closed. Whites are the only group that will go against their own kind even when they know their own kind is telling the truth. Whites attack Whites who dare and stand up for their own rights, go figure that one out. I guess a lot of Whites love being treated like shit.

  • @chris
    @Jefferson Temple

    As good as this article is, if it's result is to have people listen to the Maria Farmer interview, it will have done more to increase public understanding of how these "elite" scumbags operate, with the active participation of secret services, etc., than 10000 articles on the subject!

    Funny how Maria's interview should be linked here, days after Israel Shamir's extremely transparent attempt to obfuscate and whitewash the whole thing. What a perfect refutation (FAIL!)

    Replies: @Art

    Funny how Maria’s interview should be linked here, days after Israel Shamir’s extremely transparent attempt to obfuscate and whitewash the whole thing. What a perfect refutation (FAIL!)

    Hear hear — Shamir’s article was a bait and switch ploy. He cited examples of unjust sexual attacks on Gentiles – then switched to defending obvious scumbag Jews like Weinstein and Epstein.

    How long will it be before the use of the words Weinstein and Epstein, will be considered “anti-Semitic?”

    This is another concrete example of how most all Jews, defend immoral Jews who have done wrong.

    Jews act together as a tribe – period.

    • Replies: @chris
    @Art

    Yeah, hi Art.

    I actually liked many of Israel Shamir's articles and his unique take on most things, but the last one has made me a lot more weary of him than before. The last one was so easy to debunk that you'd have to take notice and to start questioning his trustworthiness completely.

    Once I got on that path I discovered one of the major inconsistencies about him which I hadn't thought about before. For a convert to Orthodox Christianity, which he claims to be, he seems a little too proud of the purported sexual prowess of his youth. I mean, everyone might have indulged in something like that at one point or another in his life, but if at one point in your life you declare yourself a Christian, it seems a little odd that you would later bring this aspect of your youth up in glowing terms as much as he does. I mean, there are Christians of course who do that, but someone who took the step of converting, presumably in their adult life, I don't know, you would assume a little more humility in "matters of the flesh" as they say. This is like a give-away that his story isn't quite 'kosher,' as it were :-)

    Still, the greatest contribution to these pages, for me is the thing he wrote about Putin, that Putin had been schooled in Jewish practices by friendly Jewish neighbors. Which is to say that Putin may be Jewish, because which system opportunistic Russian family might have, in Communist times risked taking religious instruction, and which Jewish family would have instructed a gentile in that matter? That might well be true and may explain certain things about Putin, certainly about how he was so positively accepted by Russia and the West, ... initially.

  • @Ann Nonny Mouse
    Vernon, I think you've classified me as a bigot, though a clear and precise definition of bigot is hard to find. It may be just a label thrown around by bigots.

    I believe that only Jews could be so evil as to nuke Beirut, as Israel has just done. The Jews collectively are evil. I think it's splitting hairs to dispute that. But that the Jews collectively are evil does not mean all Jews individually are evil. That is certainly not the case.

    Ann the Bigot

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @chuckywiz, @Phil the Fluter, @Ilya G Poimandres, @Loula, @Moi, @Dr. H. Fhaunrich, @Donald A Thomson, @Corvinus

    “I believe that only Jews could be so evil as to nuke Beirut, as Israel has just done.”

    That is Fake News.

    “The Jews collectively are evil. I think it’s splitting hairs to dispute that”.

    No, it’s patently false.

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
  • @restless94110
    I do not get why anyone on Earth cares about Epstein, Maxwell, and Dersh. The "charges" are spurious and over 2 decades old. This is garden variety escort work and I'm pretty sure Maxwell will walk. I don't care who Dersh had sex with and either should you or anyone.

    Replies: @Hubert, @Bombercommand, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Colin Wright, @Alden, @Dave Bowman

    I do not get why anyone on Earth cares about Epstein, Maxwell, and Dersh

    Interesting. That would suggest to any impartial observer that you simply do not possess the intellect necessary to comprehend the legal issues involved. Your problem – not mine.

    The “charges” are spurious and over 2 decades old

    2 decades or 10 – the length of time passed is irrelevant. The spuriousness or otherwise of the charges is precisely the issue for which the legally-constituted Court of Prosecution is set up and is scheduled to debate. In the meantime, your opinion is worthless.

    This is garden variety escort work

    Solicitation, transportation, pimping and imprisonment of Minors for sexual purposes is illegal in every civilised nation on earth. Is that what you believe is “garden variety escort work” ? You must have had a strange – and very illegal – life.

    I’m pretty sure Maxwell will walk

    We’ll see. In the meantime, as above, your opinion is worthless.

    I don’t care who Dersh had sex with and either should you or anyone

    No one in their right mind gives a shit whether the lying, degenerate, paedophile scumbag Dershowitz has shafted every donkey and camel in the Negev. The question is, whether or not he should be in prison for felony convictions as above.

    Please don’t reply. Your ignorance is lowering the site’s average IQ.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Dave Bowman

    Restless94110, Curmudgeon and a few others spend so much time wanking away on porn sites like Horny Teen Harlots Love Creepy Old Codgers their brains have significantly deteriorated.

    Their ignorance of the criminal justice system from the initial police report, through investigation, rules of evidence, criminal procedure, pretending that age of consent and prostitution are the same thing isn’t low IQ. It’s just proof that they are either molesters of underage minors or wannabe molesters of underage minors who spend their lives wanking away watching porn sites like Horny Young Hatlots Love Creepy Old Codgers.

    And even , pretending to be unaware that , interstate transport of anyone of any age for prostitution and other illegal sexual acts is a violation of 18 USC SS 2421 2422 2423 2424 2425 passed in 1910 by an all male senate and congress

    If they keep up advocating sex with under age minors I hope law enforcement flags them. They deserve it.

    Replies: @restless94110

    , @Skeptikal
    @Dave Bowman

    The Epstein-Maxwell story is not about sex. It is about politics. Sex is just the plot driver.

    Replies: @restless94110

    , @restless94110
    @Dave Bowman


    nteresting. That would suggest to any impartial observer that you simply do not possess the intellect necessary to comprehend the legal issues involved. Your problem – not mine.
     
    It might suggest it to you, but you would be wrong. Furthermore you are hardly impartial.

    2 decades or 10 – the length of time passed is irrelevant. The spuriousness or otherwise of the charges is precisely the issue for which the legally-constituted Court of Prosecution is set up and is scheduled to debate. In the meantime, your opinion is worthless.
     
    This would suggest to the impartial observer that you simply do not possess the intellect necessary to comprehend the legal issues involved in statute of limitations rules that have governed jurisprudence for centuries.

    Solicitation, transportation, pimping and imprisonment of Minors for sexual purposes is illegal in every civilised nation on earth. Is that what you believe is “garden variety escort work” ? You must have had a strange – and very illegal – life.
     
    The terms you use are not proven and the age of minority is fluid over time and throughout all civilized societies. The hysterical screaming is over common garden variety sex escort work. Talking nonsense using common scare words does not change it. The girls were paid for sex. They were not forced. They were not imprisoned. Period.

    We’ll see. In the meantime, as above, your opinion is worthless.
     
    As is yours. Especially yours.

    No one in their right mind gives a shit whether the lying, degenerate, paedophile scumbag Dershowitz has shafted every donkey and camel in the Negev. The question is, whether or not he should be in prison for felony convictions as above.
     
    No one in their right mind gives a shit about your hateful prejudiced spew. You lower the collective IQ of the world with your nonsense.

    Please don't reply and make yourself look worse than you have already made yourself so far.

    Replies: @Daniel Rich

  • @Jefferson Temple
    I had listened to the full interview of MF by WW months ago. Only a douche with an interest in suppressing truth would mischaracterize her comments so. So Dershowitz reminds me of a line from a song by the late, great Charlie Daniels. His heels are on fire and his ass is catching.

    But don't be unkind to David Icke. Even his far out theories are interesting. And if he wasn't able to entertain no one would know him. I wouldn't be surprised to find an essay on Unz about the Sabbatean-Frankist cult that Maria Farmer must've been referring to when she said Icke was helping her overcome her anti Jewish sentiments.

    Replies: @jsigur, @Franz, @chris

    As good as this article is, if it’s result is to have people listen to the Maria Farmer interview, it will have done more to increase public understanding of how these “elite” scumbags operate, with the active participation of secret services, etc., than 10000 articles on the subject!

    Funny how Maria’s interview should be linked here, days after Israel Shamir’s extremely transparent attempt to obfuscate and whitewash the whole thing. What a perfect refutation (FAIL!)

    • Agree: Jefferson Temple
    • Replies: @Art
    @chris


    Funny how Maria’s interview should be linked here, days after Israel Shamir’s extremely transparent attempt to obfuscate and whitewash the whole thing. What a perfect refutation (FAIL!)
     
    Hear hear -- Shamir's article was a bait and switch ploy. He cited examples of unjust sexual attacks on Gentiles – then switched to defending obvious scumbag Jews like Weinstein and Epstein.

    How long will it be before the use of the words Weinstein and Epstein, will be considered “anti-Semitic?”

    This is another concrete example of how most all Jews, defend immoral Jews who have done wrong.

    Jews act together as a tribe – period.

    Replies: @chris

  • He seems to be another who lives his life by the motto, “never let the truth spoil a good story”.

  • @acementhead
    @restless94110


    "Define immoral."
     
    restless94110 you asked Colin Wright to "define immoral" and he ran away with a stupid excuse. I have Colin Wright on "ignore" but read his response. He had to run away because to define immoral correctly would make his position, on this matter, absurd. He'd have looked even more stupid.

    People constantly talk about 'morality' but nobody ever defines it. It is absurd to discuss something which is undefined. The vast majority of people could not provide a concise definition of 'morality'. I can, and here it is.

    Moral behavior is that behavior which maximises the probability of individual and species survival.
     
    That definition is valid at all times and places; I'm unable to think of a circumstance in which it is not correct.

    It is clear that the absurd 'blue laws' of the US are not only archaic but the act of passing them into legislation was grossly immoral. The making of prostitution illegal in the US has, without a doubt, been the cause of huge economic destruction, untold misery due to violence, engendered solely by the immoral laws, and the deaths of thousands of women.

    Replies: @restless94110

    I agree with you 100 percent. You can add to that though the ludicrous name switch from prostitution to sex trafficked victim. Further lunacies are the near-constant assertions of child sex trafficking. I believe the percentage stands at 95 percent of child sex abuse is done by someone known by the victim.

    Aren’t we all so sick of hearing these terms thrown around carelessly, endlessly? Meaninglessly.

    I am not sure about your definition of morality, however. I wouldn’t look at it that way. I’d start with the 10 Commandments perhaps and then finish with some of the sayings found in the Tao Te Ching. Your definition sounds hard to assess. You’re going all evolutionary psychology on me.

  • Every time you see a story like this, Americans should curse the so-called, “Greatest Generation” and their traitorous leaders and beg Hitler & Germany for forgiveness. When you see or read about a 5 year old white boy being shot in the head execution style you can curse the same people along with the Kennedy clan, the Bush clan, the Clinton family, Nixon,etc. , and all those responsible for creating a social environment where white children are subjected to be killed, beaten, and raped by their nonwhite neighbor. You can also beg forgiveness from those Southern Whites from yesteryear ( today’s White Southerner is usually just as bad as a New England Yankee when it comes to obeying political correctness) who tried their best to keep this nation segregated. White Southerners, out of sheer ignorance to the JQ, piss me off when it comes to kissing Jew ass, but it is the Yankee Whites who had turned over all the power in this country to Jews, White Southerners had little to no power in this country all those years ago. Thank you, “greatest generation.” Thank you, FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, LBJ, Richard and Ronnie, Bush family, Bill and Hillary, Obama ( our first Jewish President) and thank you Orange Man.

    • Troll: Corvinus
    • Replies: @sarz
    @Trinity


    Thank you, FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, LBJ, Richard and Ronnie, Bush family, Bill and Hillary, Obama ( our first Jewish President) and thank you Orange Man.
     
    Trinity is being sarcastic, 'thanking' the "greatest generation" for selling out to the Jews. But, sadly, Trinity has not heard the news. FDR, like Teddy and Eleanor, was descended from the biggest pair of slave-trading Jews, the Roosevelt brothers. Truman's only child Margaret, was married to a Jew, Daniels. Eisenhower's class yearbook at West Point refers to him as a Swedish Jew. That's why it was a big deal when Billy Graham baptised his brother, Milton, president of Johns Hopkins. LBJ was a secret Sephardic Jew, as Salvador Astucia establishes in his book about the Kennedy assassination. It was very much a Jewish act for him to help the Israelis murder Kennedy. Christopher Bollyn discovered that the head of the Jews in America in the 1700s was a Bush. Since the Jews went from slave traders to paricipants in the Jew-organised Opium Wars that's a place to look for the Bush family history. Hillary had one Jewish grandparent and she's milking that for all it's worth, including framing stories of the mishpucha. And Obama's mother's family had a good mixture of Judaic in their makeup, including her participation in pornography and miscegenation with Obama's biological father, Frank Marshall Davis, a communist activist. Orange Man Trump is, as his elder brother confessed to his frat brothers at his Jewish fraternity at Lehigh, the son of a German Jew father pretending to be a Christian.

    So you see, Trinity, these guys were not after all selling out their own people to the Jews. The Jews were their people.
  • @restless94110
    @Colin Wright

    Amoral? What does that even mean? That is obviously your personal view.


    That depends a lot on what they did, to whom they did it, and who it is who is aware of the act. I’ll refrain from formulating the rather disgusting possible examples.
     
    No. It does not. Mind your own fucking business.

    You want sex to be some kind of magically clean, consequence-free act. It can be — but often, it’s not. That’s why all societies ring it round with masses of ritualistic bumph.
     
    I didn't say I wanted sex to be magical and clean. You did. And for the last time what the fuck is bumph?

    Replies: @acementhead

    ” what the fuck is bumph?”

    bumph is the acronym from a generic, archaic, aircraft pre-landing checklist.

    Brakes – Off
    Undercarriage – Down
    Mixture – Rich
    Pitch – Fine
    Harness – Tight

    so I suppose bumph means something like mindlessly repeated boilerplate. Maybe.

  • @Colin Wright
    @Art

    '... Don’t know about the legal courts, but in the court of public opinion – Dershowitz trashing Farmer, is a loser for the tribe...'

    It's only a loser for the tribe if it gets mainstream media attention.

    I'll be overjoyed to be proven wrong, but watch the curtain of silence descend.

    Replies: @Art, @Miro23

    ‘… Don’t know about the legal courts, but in the court of public opinion – Dershowitz trashing Farmer, is a loser for the tribe…’

    It’s only a loser for the tribe if it gets mainstream media attention.

    I’ll be overjoyed to be proven wrong, but watch the curtain of silence descend.

    That’s assuming that the MSM has the power that it once had. Their 2016 anti-Trump attacks were blatant lies and smears that lost them plenty of credibility with the public (Trump got elected despite their best efforts), and the MSM is having trouble controlling internet news sources (example RT). Then there’s the iconic 9/11 story that has gone from full acceptance to a majority opinion of lies and fakery. Somehow the truth filters out – and as it does – the risks for insiders rise and they tend to jump ship or get cancelled by their own team (Dershowitz?)

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Miro23

    'That’s assuming that the MSM has the power that it once had...'

    To be frank, I wonder. I had an exchange today with a true believer in the virus. A year and a half ago I watched the Superbowl with a casual acquaintance -- and I was taken aback to hear him seriously arguing that sexually integrated combat units are a good idea. People really do still believe in Santa Claus.

    Particularly in the internet age, we can wind up off in these little intellectual sects -- Unz Review would be a good example -- where we start developing our own notion of what is ordinary received wisdom.

    An awful lot of people -- most people? -- still watch the mainstream media, think it all must be true, and believe what they're told.

    To what extent the dominant paradigm is collapsing is a good question -- and I'm not at all sure of the answer. It's taken some pretty savage hits, that's for sure -- particularly over the last few months -- but is it 30% intact, 65% intact, 95% intact? I don't know.

  • @restless94110
    @Colin Wright

    Define immoral.

    What is disgusting for you about consensual sex? Pray do tell.

    So sex is not clean? Sex is dirty? That sounds like the 1890s. Are you from those times?

    What is a ritualistic bumph?

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @acementhead

    “Define immoral.”

    restless94110 you asked Colin Wright to “define immoral” and he ran away with a stupid excuse. I have Colin Wright on “ignore” but read his response. He had to run away because to define immoral correctly would make his position, on this matter, absurd. He’d have looked even more stupid.

    People constantly talk about ‘morality’ but nobody ever defines it. It is absurd to discuss something which is undefined. The vast majority of people could not provide a concise definition of ‘morality’. I can, and here it is.

    Moral behavior is that behavior which maximises the probability of individual and species survival.

    That definition is valid at all times and places; I’m unable to think of a circumstance in which it is not correct.

    It is clear that the absurd ‘blue laws’ of the US are not only archaic but the act of passing them into legislation was grossly immoral. The making of prostitution illegal in the US has, without a doubt, been the cause of huge economic destruction, untold misery due to violence, engendered solely by the immoral laws, and the deaths of thousands of women.

    • Replies: @restless94110
    @acementhead

    I agree with you 100 percent. You can add to that though the ludicrous name switch from prostitution to sex trafficked victim. Further lunacies are the near-constant assertions of child sex trafficking. I believe the percentage stands at 95 percent of child sex abuse is done by someone known by the victim.

    Aren't we all so sick of hearing these terms thrown around carelessly, endlessly? Meaninglessly.

    I am not sure about your definition of morality, however. I wouldn't look at it that way. I'd start with the 10 Commandments perhaps and then finish with some of the sayings found in the Tao Te Ching. Your definition sounds hard to assess. You're going all evolutionary psychology on me.

  • @Alden
    @Alan Marson

    Another moron who confuses statutory rape, age of consent and prostitution pimping procuring and running a brothel which Epstein did innall his homes.

    A moron who insisted Virginia was over the age of consent because she was 17. A moron who doesn’t even know the age of consent in Florida was and is 18.

    A moron who blathers on and can’t even check the prostitution and pimping laws and the age of consent in Florida.

    The Palm Beach Police Department discovered Virginia was 15 when she began seeing Epstein in spring summer of 1999.

    Birth certificate says DOB August 9 1983. Mar a Lago employment records state she began working there April 1999 when she was 15.

    About 3 dozen witnesses, house employees, drivers and other girls stated that Virginia began frequently Epstein’s brothel in late spring summer of 1999.

    When asked by investigators witnesses stated she began to frequent Epstein’s place “ around the time school let out”. “ early summer June”
    “ before July 4”

    Virginia turned 16 on August 9 1999. Numerous witnesses saw her coming in through the kitchen door and going upstairs to Epstein’s massage room in June and July 1999 when she was 15 years old.

    Whatever the age of the prostitute. Pimping, procuring, soliciting for prostitution and prostitution are illegal.

    But you are such a moron you haven’t grasped that although they are illegal in every state in the country.

    You really are a moron if you don’t understand the difference between age of consent illegal sex with a minor and illegal prostitution and pimping

    Replies: @Alan Marson

    A moron who insisted Virginia was over the age of consent because she was 17. A moron who doesn’t even know the age of consent in Florida was and is 18.

    I’m aware of the Florida law. I’m pointing out that the laws do vary by geographic location, indicating that any kind of mass consensus on morality, simply does not exist. Some people don’t think laws should be based on arbitrary distinctions and emotion. What I think has happened is that men were given the right to vote at 18 because they were considered conscriptable at that age (that’s the age at which males are considered physically mature). 18 then became a sort of magic legal number. Ages of consent (in many jurisdictions in the western world) have been steadily creeping upwards and I think that female political power is the reason. Women want to be infantilized, but they never want to admit it.

    As for prostitution, you sure are in full-on white knight mode about it. I hope your white knighting augments your social status or whatever it is you think you’re hoping to achieve with it. Many things could be defined as prostitution. Men provide, women give sex in return. That’s the basis of marriage, btw. Anyway even Guiffre was effectively a prostitute, I don’t see why she had to go along with it. She could have said “no” and left the island but she wanted to be there.

    BTW I notice you excitedly citing laws X,Y,and Z. Pretty soon web sites such as Unz will be illegal in the US (hate speech laws A, B and C, you know). When that happens are you still going to be all preachy about the law?

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Alan Marson

    I’m not a knight. I’m not eligible to be a knight. The law is the law. Court rulings set precedents that become law. Go back to wanking away as you watch your favorite porn site Horny Young Harlots Love Creepy Old Codgers.

    Everybody defends what they like and approve of. You are defending molesters of underage minors. Doesn’t matter what you think or do. The law is the law. Get caught with a girl you think is a hot and horny teen harlot and accept the consequences.

    Or find a woman your own age.

    When I was a probation officer there were some black molesters of their underage nieces daughters sisters and grand daughters.

    Like you, they thought they did nothing wrong.
    Like you they thought the laws were unjust. Like you they had many arguments against the laws; especially “ isn’t it better she learns from her father than some kid”

    Unlike you, they went to prison for molesting underage girls.

    Or maybe you’re in a prison library typing justifications of illegal sex acts with underage minors because you got caught.

    Replies: @Alan Marson

  • @Colin Wright
    @restless94110

    '... People just have sexual desires. They don’t come to terms with them. They just do them...'

    If they're utterly amoral and indifferent to the effect on their prospective partner, sure.

    '...It’s none of our business. None of anyone’s business...'

    That depends a lot on what they did, to whom they did it, and who it is who is aware of the act. I'll refrain from formulating the rather disgusting possible examples.

    You want sex to be some kind of magically clean, consequence-free act. It can be -- but often, it's not. That's why all societies ring it round with masses of ritualistic bumph.

    Replies: @restless94110, @restless94110

    Amoral? What does that even mean? That is obviously your personal view.

    That depends a lot on what they did, to whom they did it, and who it is who is aware of the act. I’ll refrain from formulating the rather disgusting possible examples.

    No. It does not. Mind your own fucking business.

    You want sex to be some kind of magically clean, consequence-free act. It can be — but often, it’s not. That’s why all societies ring it round with masses of ritualistic bumph.

    I didn’t say I wanted sex to be magical and clean. You did. And for the last time what the fuck is bumph?

    • Replies: @acementhead
    @restless94110


    " what the fuck is bumph?"
     
    bumph is the acronym from a generic, archaic, aircraft pre-landing checklist.

    Brakes - Off
    Undercarriage - Down
    Mixture - Rich
    Pitch - Fine
    Harness - Tight

    so I suppose bumph means something like mindlessly repeated boilerplate. Maybe.
  • @Colin Wright
    @restless94110

    I'm afraid you've gotten boring.

    Replies: @restless94110

    I am not afraid at all. You can’t reply so you act bored.. What a fop.

  • @Rubicon
    Let's stop even for 2 minutes and put into perpsective the huge difference between Jewish Power in
    the US vs in Europe.

    The difference is quite remarkable.
    I have a very close Italian friend who is very well educated and well-informed of societal/financial/economic interests in Europe and elsewhere.

    When I relate to him some of the nonsense going on with Jewish power in the US, my friend clearly states that most all Jews in Western Europe do NOT behave as does Dershowitz and others of his kind.
    He states: tens of thousands of Jews have NOT infiltrated each nation's federal/regional/local governments. Ditto with their legal, judicial, financial systems. It's a stark contrast to the American scene.

    We think it has to do with Europe being around the block for several centuries, where the moneyed people very closely preserve their riches for several generations, even centuries.

    Instead, American Jews have been able to infiltrate thousands of times over in capturing both huge amounts of wealth, but prestige, too.

    It's a remarkable difference and you may want to consider this.

    Replies: @Art, @Skeptikal

    Hmm — very interesting – what about the UK – in this last election the Jews played a public overarching role. Thanks!

  • @Colin Wright
    @Art

    '... Don’t know about the legal courts, but in the court of public opinion – Dershowitz trashing Farmer, is a loser for the tribe...'

    It's only a loser for the tribe if it gets mainstream media attention.

    I'll be overjoyed to be proven wrong, but watch the curtain of silence descend.

    Replies: @Art, @Miro23

    … Don’t know about the legal courts, but in the court of public opinion – Dershowitz trashing Farmer, is a loser for the tribe…’

    It’s only a loser for the tribe if it gets mainstream media attention.

    I’ll be overjoyed to be proven wrong, but watch the curtain of silence descend.

    Of course you are right. I think that the Jew tribe has already put out the word too not give Dershowitz face time on TV. Him screeching victim, using the Jew war-cry “anti-Semite” regarding Farmer, is turning people off.

    We now hear the old war-cries of “anti-Semite, six million, and holocaust” less and less. Those mendacious lies achieved their goal – they got the Jews accepted into power.

    Today they are in a new mode – they are boldly out to crush any talk about their use of that power.

    The poor old warhorse Dershowitz is still stuck in his ways – they are putting him out to pasture.

  • Let’s stop even for 2 minutes and put into perpsective the huge difference between Jewish Power in
    the US vs in Europe.

    The difference is quite remarkable.
    I have a very close Italian friend who is very well educated and well-informed of societal/financial/economic interests in Europe and elsewhere.

    When I relate to him some of the nonsense going on with Jewish power in the US, my friend clearly states that most all Jews in Western Europe do NOT behave as does Dershowitz and others of his kind.
    He states: tens of thousands of Jews have NOT infiltrated each nation’s federal/regional/local governments. Ditto with their legal, judicial, financial systems. It’s a stark contrast to the American scene.

    We think it has to do with Europe being around the block for several centuries, where the moneyed people very closely preserve their riches for several generations, even centuries.

    Instead, American Jews have been able to infiltrate thousands of times over in capturing both huge amounts of wealth, but prestige, too.

    It’s a remarkable difference and you may want to consider this.

    • Replies: @Art
    @Rubicon

    Hmm -- very interesting - what about the UK - in this last election the Jews played a public overarching role. Thanks!

    , @Skeptikal
    @Rubicon

    To understand how the Jews took over the USA, read Gus Russo, Supermob.
    It starts with the lawyers, interacting with and acting for mobsters.
    It is all about money.
    Skimming, hiding, every thing you can do with money to avoid paying any taxes, but instead use it to buy influence so that you remain (1) undetected, and (2) can make more money to hide and use to buy influence (including cultural influence). Wash and repeat at ever higher levels of influence and "respect." Don't forget the philanthropic money laundering!

    The story of how Jewish power originating in Chicago took over the labor movement, robbed the pension funds, then California (not just Hollywood but the the whole political apparatus), Nevada, Arizona, television . . .

    It is breathtaking. Everyone who comments here should read this book.

    Just the story of the Sunrise Hospital in Las Vegas is incredible---how the deals were made with the Teamsters.

    You will be flabbergasted.

    You will not longer be stabbing around in the dark as to how the Jews took over the USA and subverted the purposes of the American govt. It is all about Benjamins. And the Jews, of course.
    They already started playing the "anti-semitism" card in the '30s and '40s to fend off legitimate investigations.

    Once you look at the phrase "avoid paying taxes" you can't help notice that this is one of the main prerogatives of the British royal family (the queen pays a bit of tax, but the *wealth* is untaxed, and the taxpayers actually pay the royal family!!) , and naturally the raison d'etre of all the offshore tax havens spawned by the City of London after the UK "lost" WW2. Basically this issue of tax havens is a spinoff of the normal mob mission, which is to make money and keep it all, using to do so all of the infrastructure of a civilized country whose taxpayers have paid for said infrastructure, but contributing nothing (excpet maybe some paltry "philanthropy" for window dressing).

    It is incredible, when one thinks about it, that the Brits keep on letting the royal family rob them blind.
    https://www.statista.com/chart/18569/total-cost-of-the-uks-royal-family-by-year/

    All of these supergrifters are parasites on the hosts where they live.
    Maybe not so bad in Europe, but give it time . . .

    Replies: @Art, @Alden

  • @Art
    @Curmudgeon

    The Jews are in a self-imposed cultural trap, having to defend a real shithead.

    Don’t know about the legal courts, but in the court of public opinion – Dershowitz trashing Farmer, is a loser for the tribe. The problem is that more and more people know she is telling the truth about the elite Jews and the coercive tribe that backs them. They correctly see him as a bullying elite Jew, not as a victim.

    You can only go to the well so many times. Dershowitz is rapidly using up what little grace water the Jews have.

    From now on, every time Dershowitz opens his mouth using the Jew war cry of "anti-Semitism" - defending himself and attacking the true victim, he brings down the Jew tribe.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Curmudgeon

    ‘… Don’t know about the legal courts, but in the court of public opinion – Dershowitz trashing Farmer, is a loser for the tribe…’

    It’s only a loser for the tribe if it gets mainstream media attention.

    I’ll be overjoyed to be proven wrong, but watch the curtain of silence descend.

    • Replies: @Art
    @Colin Wright


    … Don’t know about the legal courts, but in the court of public opinion – Dershowitz trashing Farmer, is a loser for the tribe…’

    It’s only a loser for the tribe if it gets mainstream media attention.

    I’ll be overjoyed to be proven wrong, but watch the curtain of silence descend.
     
    Of course you are right. I think that the Jew tribe has already put out the word too not give Dershowitz face time on TV. Him screeching victim, using the Jew war-cry “anti-Semite” regarding Farmer, is turning people off.

    We now hear the old war-cries of “anti-Semite, six million, and holocaust” less and less. Those mendacious lies achieved their goal – they got the Jews accepted into power.

    Today they are in a new mode – they are boldly out to crush any talk about their use of that power.

    The poor old warhorse Dershowitz is still stuck in his ways – they are putting him out to pasture.
    , @Miro23
    @Colin Wright



    ‘… Don’t know about the legal courts, but in the court of public opinion – Dershowitz trashing Farmer, is a loser for the tribe…’
     
    It’s only a loser for the tribe if it gets mainstream media attention.

    I’ll be overjoyed to be proven wrong, but watch the curtain of silence descend.
     
    That's assuming that the MSM has the power that it once had. Their 2016 anti-Trump attacks were blatant lies and smears that lost them plenty of credibility with the public (Trump got elected despite their best efforts), and the MSM is having trouble controlling internet news sources (example RT). Then there's the iconic 9/11 story that has gone from full acceptance to a majority opinion of lies and fakery. Somehow the truth filters out - and as it does - the risks for insiders rise and they tend to jump ship or get cancelled by their own team (Dershowitz?)

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  • @Daniel Rich
    Alan doesn't care about facts and the truth. He happily provides readers with what he believes is 'the best evidence [out of context]' to convince a jury [you] and find Ms. Farmer 'guilty.'

    The rest be damned.

    Time for the gods of justice to claim this serpent's illustrious soul.

    Replies: @Miro23

    Time for the gods of justice to claim this serpent’s illustrious soul.

    No need for divine intervention. There are some earthly specialists to deal with these guys.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhGjndY2bWU
    Video Link

  • @Curmudgeon
    @Hubert

    1. I agree with you about quotations and showing scant regard. However, context is also important. I dealt with "journalists" during my work life, and was an interim spokesperson several times. While individual journalists contacted me before publication or broadcast to apologize for what was coming, it is the ownership that drives the bus, and the ownership literally owns the editors. My point is that what Dershowitz has done is accepted as normal, except when it runs contrary to the media narrative.

    2. Deliberately misleading is lying. So is placing stories or quotes out of context. Farmer claims that Dersh "met" Epstein previously. What does "met" mean? I have "met" hundreds of people that I wouldn't recognize and had nothing to do with, post "meeting". The latter includes several politicians, and famous entertainers, who probably would not remember "meeting" me. This goes to the entire bullshit method of "ties". Am I "tied" to someone I met through a friend but have never seen again?

    3. My point about Farmer is that she is telling a story that may, or may not be true. While Whitney Webb has done some excellent work, there is a whole lot of, as yet, uncorroborated statements made by a lot of people, including Farmer that she accepts as fact. There is no evidence of the author of this article scrutinizing Farmer's narrative (or Webb's) in the way he scrutinized Dersh O'Shits.

    No one here, including Alden, actually "knows" anything. Statements and depositions, until proven, are nothing but accusations.

    Replies: @Hubert, @Art, @anon, @Alden

    The Jews are in a self-imposed cultural trap, having to defend a real shithead.

    Don’t know about the legal courts, but in the court of public opinion – Dershowitz trashing Farmer, is a loser for the tribe. The problem is that more and more people know she is telling the truth about the elite Jews and the coercive tribe that backs them. They correctly see him as a bullying elite Jew, not as a victim.

    You can only go to the well so many times. Dershowitz is rapidly using up what little grace water the Jews have.

    From now on, every time Dershowitz opens his mouth using the Jew war cry of “anti-Semitism” – defending himself and attacking the true victim, he brings down the Jew tribe.

    • Agree: Miro23
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Art

    '... Don’t know about the legal courts, but in the court of public opinion – Dershowitz trashing Farmer, is a loser for the tribe...'

    It's only a loser for the tribe if it gets mainstream media attention.

    I'll be overjoyed to be proven wrong, but watch the curtain of silence descend.

    Replies: @Art, @Miro23

    , @Curmudgeon
    @Art

    From my original reply to Hubert:


    At some point, all Jews under attack play the “J card”. It is no different than visible minorities screaming screaming “racism” when things are not going their way.
     
    which is why I stated that what Dersh has done is accepted as normal, unless it runs counter to the media narrative. In this case, the media narrative is going to hang him out to dry, but leave Jews untouched.

    My only "support" for Dersh is that the media has already tried and convicted him, Maxwell, and others, when, other than statements by women making allegations, there is no hard evidence, only inference.

    Replies: @Alden, @Art, @Alden

  • @restless94110
    @Bombercommand

    No one cares about legal constructs. They aren't real and they aren't the way real life is. Grow up. Spouting Puritan feminist talking points is lame.

    Replies: @Bombercommand

    The Police and the Courts care about “legal constructs” and have the power to enforce it, and that power is very “real”. The Public certainly cares about protecting minors from being Sex Trafficked and fully supports the Police and Courts. Prison is real life and an intolerable place to live if you did what Ghislaine Maxwell is guilty of, she will have a miserable time. You talk like a mediocre arrogant jewish kid, which I believe you are. “Sean”, one of your hasbara troll buddies, is so much better at this. “Sean” resorted to gaslighting that jew-Epstein’s minor victims were lying about being minors, but that blew up in his face. We haven’t seen “Sean” lately, but you pop up spouting the same jew-party line. Is “Sean” training you right now? You write like a jew-boy hasbara trainee. You jews are scared of something, from your desperate venom I can feel it. You are scared that the big money jews that bankrolled the-guy-that-didnt-work-Epstein will lose their cover, because they would be guilty of what Maxwell is guilty of….

  • @restless94110
    @Colin Wright

    Define immoral.

    What is disgusting for you about consensual sex? Pray do tell.

    So sex is not clean? Sex is dirty? That sounds like the 1890s. Are you from those times?

    What is a ritualistic bumph?

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @acementhead

    I’m afraid you’ve gotten boring.

    • Replies: @restless94110
    @Colin Wright

    I am not afraid at all. You can't reply so you act bored.. What a fop.

  • @ivan
    @Colin Wright

    There are high class Jews and there are low class Jews. The good impression that people all had were formed by their encounters with the high class Jews. People such as Einstein, Hannah Arendt and even Dr Strangelove, Edward Teller. Men such as the Jewish publisher Victor Gollancz in the UK, never harboured great enmity to the Germans. They were forgiving and rational (though Einstein in his contempt for all Germans was an outlier when it came to the Germans.) But the low life types were always there; those who cared for the truth only to the extent that they can grift the goyim. It is a sad outcome for these United States, the most philo-semitic nation ever to have existed, that it is being two-timed by these types of nasty Jews, to its own detriment. The image I have is of a harmless grasshopper petrified and eaten within by parasitic fledgling wasps.

    Replies: @Petermx, @Skeptikal

    These nasties are the boys who came from the Pale of Russia.
    Kieve area.
    Read Gus Russo, Supermob.

    • Agree: Druid
  • @Curmudgeon
    @Hubert

    1. I agree with you about quotations and showing scant regard. However, context is also important. I dealt with "journalists" during my work life, and was an interim spokesperson several times. While individual journalists contacted me before publication or broadcast to apologize for what was coming, it is the ownership that drives the bus, and the ownership literally owns the editors. My point is that what Dershowitz has done is accepted as normal, except when it runs contrary to the media narrative.

    2. Deliberately misleading is lying. So is placing stories or quotes out of context. Farmer claims that Dersh "met" Epstein previously. What does "met" mean? I have "met" hundreds of people that I wouldn't recognize and had nothing to do with, post "meeting". The latter includes several politicians, and famous entertainers, who probably would not remember "meeting" me. This goes to the entire bullshit method of "ties". Am I "tied" to someone I met through a friend but have never seen again?

    3. My point about Farmer is that she is telling a story that may, or may not be true. While Whitney Webb has done some excellent work, there is a whole lot of, as yet, uncorroborated statements made by a lot of people, including Farmer that she accepts as fact. There is no evidence of the author of this article scrutinizing Farmer's narrative (or Webb's) in the way he scrutinized Dersh O'Shits.

    No one here, including Alden, actually "knows" anything. Statements and depositions, until proven, are nothing but accusations.

    Replies: @Hubert, @Art, @anon, @Alden

    Don’t disagree re evidence. But AD made specific claims about a publicly available interview. These were deliberately misleading and defamatory. This was demonstrated in the article. As regards Farmer’s statements – agreed – who knows whether she is telling the truth or not. Hence the need for these issues to be thrashed out in court, challenged by AD and others etc. But if one limits oneself to what can currently be demonstrated then AD’s assertions can be shown to be deliberately misleading in a way Farmer’s can’t (at least with regard to what is publicly accessible at this point). All you can say so far is that we need to hear more re Farmer’s claims (e.g. what she means by ‘met’ etc. which you are right about).

  • @Alden
    @restless94110

    What Epstein Maxwell did was an egregious violation of a federal law passed way back in 1910 by an all male US Senate and congress. 18 USC SS. 2421, 2422,2423,2424,2425. That’s why the case is in federal court. And even if you believe prostitution should be legalized and sex with minors should be legalized neither are legal in America.

    Your perverted moronic opinion doesn’t matter. What matters is the law. And Epstein Maxwell violates numerous state and federal laws.

    Replies: @restless94110

    What was egregious about it? Could it just be a violation without your scare adjective?

    Who cares whether men passed a stupid old fashioned asinine law before your grand mama was born?

    Who cares if it is in federal court. When the law is an ass it doesn’t matter what court it is in..

    Your perverted moronic opinion doesn’t matter. What matters is justice and truth not laws made up by hysterical fools like yourself.

    Maxwell violated nothing. She will be free within 12 months.

  • @Alden
    @Trinity

    Some of the girls were Hispanic.

    I was a probation officer remember. Prostitutes are murdered by their pimps. Most of the time it’s black pimps murdering their women and girls. Because the black pimps demand all the money be given to the pimp, no split, pimp gets it all. The black pimps usually require the women to live together, not in their own homes. The pimp pays the rent food clothes drugs drink incidentals. The girls rebel against the harsh regime and are often tortured and killed.

    Hispanic pimps tend to keep the women in brothels. Or drive them around in vans. Asians run massage businesses the women live in the premises.

    Whites tend to run the escort agencies. The women are treated well except for the money. Since most of the payments are by credit card when the appointment is made, the women don’t have access to cash. So the agencies often cheat the women. And men as well.

    Epstein Maxwell may or may not have murdered some one. The usual reason prostitutes are murdered is the prostitute wants her share of the money she earned.

    Replies: @sarz

    Epstein Maxwell may or may not have murdered some one.

    Epstein and Maxwell’s big sin was not the Judaic sexual violation of Christian girls. Don’t forget the Moloch temple. Look up Laurent Guyénot’s articles here to see what that’s about. Maria Farmer says she can’t understand why there are so few girls coming forth. There were thousands she says.

    Think of Epstein and Maxwell as Judaic hierophants paid for by the top level of satanic Jews. Maria says that Ghislaine has intimate connections with the Rothschilds and British royalty (whose family got their postion as the servants of the big Jews).

    When Epstein’s arrest was imminent he bought a large cement truck at urgent premium for delivery to his island. What was that about if not to get rid of the stains of satanically violated and sacrificed children? The entrance was from some enclosed space below, where it seems a small sub could dock. Ghislaine has shown off about having helicopter snd submarine licences.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @sarz

    You reminded me of horrible crimes against teen boys and young men when I was a Probation Officer. I had nothing to do with it, but I heard about it because some San Francisco gay sadist perverts were involved. One owned a well known restaurant.

    The murderer kidnappers weren’t famous or powerful like Dirtshowitz, but they spent a lot of money on their torture murder chamber.

    The state charges were tried in some rural Texas county because they had the best evidence. The federal charges tried in one of the big cities in Texas, I forget which one.

    Anyway they kidnapped teens and young men all over the south west and Louisiana and brought them to a country place in rural Texas. Some of the boys were probably hookers. Others were approached in the parks playing basketball. Swimming pools, Video game arcades. Others were just grabbed off the street, man handled into a van, gagged cuffed and wrist and ankles and given a shot of morphine, heroin something to keep them groggy.

    Gay Perverts came from all over the country to enjoy raping torturing and murdering the boys. One thing the gay perverts enjoyed was this.

    Several sheets of 3/4 plywood were glued and nailed together. Then a naked boy was positioned kneeling with his legs spread butt up head down. Then his arms and calves were fastened to the plywood. Then his hands ankles feet and ankles were nailed to the plywood, then they got raped till they died.

    There were all sorts of dungeons whips torture instruments etc

    About 40 boys were killed. I remember that the gay perverts didn’t do the spotting and kidnapping and running the prison the boys were held in. They just flew in to enjoy the torturing and murdering. They had to pay for their pleasures, joining a secret club with a big membership fee and extra whenever they cane to to enjoy the activities.

    If some moderately rich men could run an operation like this, think what Epstein Maxwell and Werner could do with the hundreds of millions at their disposal.

    John Wayne Gary managed to murder and hide under his house about 25-30? young men with no help from anyone.

    His MO was to go to bars near factories warehouses auto repair shops etc on Friday night. He’d start talking to a young man. Tell the man he was a carpenter doing a big remodel job somewhere and he needed extra help on weekends. So the arrangement would be made, I’ll pick you up at 8AM tomorrow.

    Or he’d tell the victim he had some good weed at home or anything to entice the victim to go to his house.

    Gay perverts sometimes torture and murder. Hetero perverts do the same thing.

    That Texas thing was really shocking. Glad I wasn’t involved.

  • @Colin Wright
    @restless94110

    '... People just have sexual desires. They don’t come to terms with them. They just do them...'

    If they're utterly amoral and indifferent to the effect on their prospective partner, sure.

    '...It’s none of our business. None of anyone’s business...'

    That depends a lot on what they did, to whom they did it, and who it is who is aware of the act. I'll refrain from formulating the rather disgusting possible examples.

    You want sex to be some kind of magically clean, consequence-free act. It can be -- but often, it's not. That's why all societies ring it round with masses of ritualistic bumph.

    Replies: @restless94110, @restless94110

    Define immoral.

    What is disgusting for you about consensual sex? Pray do tell.

    So sex is not clean? Sex is dirty? That sounds like the 1890s. Are you from those times?

    What is a ritualistic bumph?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @restless94110

    I'm afraid you've gotten boring.

    Replies: @restless94110

    , @acementhead
    @restless94110


    "Define immoral."
     
    restless94110 you asked Colin Wright to "define immoral" and he ran away with a stupid excuse. I have Colin Wright on "ignore" but read his response. He had to run away because to define immoral correctly would make his position, on this matter, absurd. He'd have looked even more stupid.

    People constantly talk about 'morality' but nobody ever defines it. It is absurd to discuss something which is undefined. The vast majority of people could not provide a concise definition of 'morality'. I can, and here it is.

    Moral behavior is that behavior which maximises the probability of individual and species survival.
     
    That definition is valid at all times and places; I'm unable to think of a circumstance in which it is not correct.

    It is clear that the absurd 'blue laws' of the US are not only archaic but the act of passing them into legislation was grossly immoral. The making of prostitution illegal in the US has, without a doubt, been the cause of huge economic destruction, untold misery due to violence, engendered solely by the immoral laws, and the deaths of thousands of women.

    Replies: @restless94110

  • @Petermx
    It's worth listening to the interview. When Maria talked to the FBI they told her to get lost in the most unfriendly way, they wanted nothing to do with her. If there is a better reason than they would be scared out of their wits of being called anti-Semitic themselves for taking on her case, even if they wanted to go after the rapists, I'd like to know what it is.

    Maria is naive about certain things and this could be used against her in court. But in other ways she is very insightful when she speaks of there being Jewish supremacism but no hint of white supremacism. Try to imagine the media coverage if a group of powerful whites (I'm not talking about a small group of people that nobody heard of before - e.g., "Aryan Nations") that were caught talking like the Jews around Maria were talking. What if Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Donald Trump and some other powerful whites talked about whites the way these Jewish, sex criminal billionaires, with connections to the most powerful people in the world talk? I can't even imagine the media coverage. That demonstrates clear Jewish supremacy, exactly as Maria says. The "NAZIS" didn't talk like these Jews, as a matter of fact, they didn't talk like that at all. They had a war to fight and fighting for survival and didn't have the time on their hands that these Jewish sex criminals have.

    But the evidence of a total lack of a unified group of American whites with racial pride is overwhelming. If American whites had even a tiny iota of pride they would not have allowed the USA's immigration policy to be changed in 1965 to welcoming in people from all over the world, regardless of race, from what it had been, overwhelmingly in favor of European immigration. The result transformed the USA from being an ethnic European country to being a multi-racial country that is now on the verge of collapse. That is no exaggeration.

    Replies: @sarz

    What if Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Donald Trump and some other powerful whites talked about whites the way these Jewish, sex criminal billionaires, with connections to the most powerful people in the world talk?

    Bill Gates is likely a Jew. The case was made by a person who was probably killed by the ADL for his work, the guy who ran judicial-inc.biz. Also, Trump is no doubt, like his father before him a Jew pretending in the interest of Jews to be a Christian. Warren Buffet decided early in his career to go the shabbos goy way. If a white is powerful these days he’s either a Jew or a shabbos goy. If there were four or five of the other sort, why would they not have bought up media properties to fight back?

  • @restless94110
    @Colin Wright


    This was not garden variety prostitution — a transaction between two experienced and willing partners.

    This was the cynical exploitation of vulnerable minors. They were eaten up like candy and then tossed aside.
     

    Puleez. So you subscribe to the view the Suzi Q was just going to Church and suddenly the big bad woman took her away from all of that?

    Are you insane? Porn is being looked at by everyone all the time. This means that humans know about sex. The idea of some innocent dove? That's bullshit, dude.

    Wake up.


    On the other, we have people who want to insist that seducing a troubled fourteen year-old by waving all your wealth and power in front of her and then dragging her off to a remote island where she can be mounted by a succession of lascivious sixty-somethings is just fine.
     
    Seducing? So saying I'll give you 500 dollars is seduction now? And why did you add "troubled?" Are you troubled if you want to have sex? So in other words, a 40 year old is troubled? Do you think about what you write? And they were "dragged?" So, saying hey baby here's 500 bucks, let's go. That's dragging??????? Dude, what is wrong with you?

    So she was "mounted?" Seriously, this reveals your pornographic desires. What if she gave the guy a blow job? Why did you go to her being "mounted" by a bunch of old men? Why not her being "mounted" by a bunch of young men? Why not her being "mounted" by a bunch of Lego toys? Why not her not being "mounted" by anyone?

    Why not her having screwed since she was 12, and then later being "mounted" for a bunch of money?

    Dude, this 2020. Not 1890. Try to keep up.

    I can't go too much more into your reply, but you apparently think that people should come to terms with their sexual desires. What does that even mean? People just have sexual desires. They don't come to terms with them. They just do them. It's none of our business. None of anyone's business.

    And no one cares about this issues except lawheads and totalitarians.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘… People just have sexual desires. They don’t come to terms with them. They just do them…’

    If they’re utterly amoral and indifferent to the effect on their prospective partner, sure.

    ‘…It’s none of our business. None of anyone’s business…’

    That depends a lot on what they did, to whom they did it, and who it is who is aware of the act. I’ll refrain from formulating the rather disgusting possible examples.

    You want sex to be some kind of magically clean, consequence-free act. It can be — but often, it’s not. That’s why all societies ring it round with masses of ritualistic bumph.

    • Replies: @restless94110
    @Colin Wright

    Define immoral.

    What is disgusting for you about consensual sex? Pray do tell.

    So sex is not clean? Sex is dirty? That sounds like the 1890s. Are you from those times?

    What is a ritualistic bumph?

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @acementhead

    , @restless94110
    @Colin Wright

    Amoral? What does that even mean? That is obviously your personal view.


    That depends a lot on what they did, to whom they did it, and who it is who is aware of the act. I’ll refrain from formulating the rather disgusting possible examples.
     
    No. It does not. Mind your own fucking business.

    You want sex to be some kind of magically clean, consequence-free act. It can be — but often, it’s not. That’s why all societies ring it round with masses of ritualistic bumph.
     
    I didn't say I wanted sex to be magical and clean. You did. And for the last time what the fuck is bumph?

    Replies: @acementhead

  • @Alden
    @Colin Wright

    The law is the law. If the age of consent is 18 in your state, go across the border and try to pick up a 16 or 17 year old high school girl in a state where the age of consent is 16. But don’t pay her money for sex because prostitution is also against the law everywhere in the United States.

    What I find unreal about the Epstein Maxwell threads is that a few, very few, commenters are such morons they confuse age of consent, statutory rape and prostitution, soliciting for prostitution, pimping procuring and keeping a brothel. According to the standard criminal law definition that’s what Epstein and his hench women were doing in his 4 houses.

    Prostitution is prostitution and it’s illegal.

    Replies: @restless94110

    But of course you illustrate so eloquently that it should not be illegal as should not all of the constructs you listed. So eloquently.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @restless94110

    You opinion and my opinion about underage prostitution don’t mean a thing. It’s not a matter of should or should not be illegal.

    It’s a fact that the activities you advocate are already illegal. The law is the law. Violate it and face the consequences as Maxwell will.

    Replies: @restless94110

  • @Colin Wright
    @G J T

    'Nope. But then again, no one ever claims they do. This is just a stupid strawman people bust out when they want to run cover for Jews to whatever extent...'

    Well, there are several beliefs common among antisemites that I disagree with.

    To judge by the rest of your post, you demonize Jews, which is not an attitude I share. That'll just have to lie for the time being. However, there's another tendency that you may agree is unjustified.

    Not only are Jews demonized, but everyone else, by implication, becomes virtuous. Sheldon Adelson is indeed a vile troglodyte -- but does it follow that Samuel Walton was therefore good and good for America?

    The point is that some antisemites tend to replace all the ambiguity reality actually has with a Manichaean fantasy in which all evil is attributed to Jews and all gentiles are assumed to be at least well-intentioned, even if deluded. I have noticed this in several posts, if not yours.

    I suppose someone else if not you will abuse me for this post. I'll note that this gets tedious: the most extreme possible view is not always the correct one. Sometimes the truth really does lie somewhere in the middle. If I don't see Jews as snowy-white lambs of virtue, neither do I see them as a monolithic army of Satan, constantly and consciously working to make the rest of us as miserable as possible.

    Replies: @Sam J., @Alden, @ivan, @sarz

    Sheldon Adelson is indeed a vile troglodyte — but does it follow that Samuel Walton was therefore good and good for America?

    There is a Jewess in the woodwork, either Sam Walton’s wife or mother, who changed the entire tenor of the family.

  • @Colin Wright
    @Alden

    '... You have the internet. Use it moron...'

    That's about enough. Fuck off.

    Replies: @Alden, @Curmudgeon

    I have internet.
    https://thelawdictionary.org/testimony/

    Note the latter part re: evidence. Most people here cannot accept that reality, including your biggest “fan”.

  • @Colin Wright
    @restless94110

    'The simplest way to remove that issue completely is you become a country where garden variety sex work is not a shocking and/or criminal thing.'

    This was not garden variety prostitution -- a transaction between two experienced and willing partners.

    This was the cynical exploitation of vulnerable minors. They were eaten up like candy and then tossed aside.

    I find this whole thread curious. On the one hand, we have people who ferociously denounce even the thought that someone might find teenage girls sexually attractive -- really, a decidedly unrealistic attitude, and I suspect a hypocritical one. On the other, we have people who want to insist that seducing a troubled fourteen year-old by waving all your wealth and power in front of her and then dragging her off to a remote island where she can be mounted by a succession of lascivious sixty-somethings is just fine.

    In both camps, I'd say there're a lot of people have yet to come to terms with their own sexual desires. Admit what you actually want -- but don't try to pretend that therefore it's just fine.

    No, just because you want it doesn't mean you should have it. That would appear to be beyond Alan Dershowitz et al -- but presumably some of the readers here can rise to that rather modest moral height.

    Replies: @Alden, @restless94110

    This was not garden variety prostitution — a transaction between two experienced and willing partners.

    This was the cynical exploitation of vulnerable minors. They were eaten up like candy and then tossed aside.

    Puleez. So you subscribe to the view the Suzi Q was just going to Church and suddenly the big bad woman took her away from all of that?

    Are you insane? Porn is being looked at by everyone all the time. This means that humans know about sex. The idea of some innocent dove? That’s bullshit, dude.

    Wake up.

    On the other, we have people who want to insist that seducing a troubled fourteen year-old by waving all your wealth and power in front of her and then dragging her off to a remote island where she can be mounted by a succession of lascivious sixty-somethings is just fine.

    Seducing? So saying I’ll give you 500 dollars is seduction now? And why did you add “troubled?” Are you troubled if you want to have sex? So in other words, a 40 year old is troubled? Do you think about what you write? And they were “dragged?” So, saying hey baby here’s 500 bucks, let’s go. That’s dragging??????? Dude, what is wrong with you?

    So she was “mounted?” Seriously, this reveals your pornographic desires. What if she gave the guy a blow job? Why did you go to her being “mounted” by a bunch of old men? Why not her being “mounted” by a bunch of young men? Why not her being “mounted” by a bunch of Lego toys? Why not her not being “mounted” by anyone?

    Why not her having screwed since she was 12, and then later being “mounted” for a bunch of money?

    Dude, this 2020. Not 1890. Try to keep up.

    I can’t go too much more into your reply, but you apparently think that people should come to terms with their sexual desires. What does that even mean? People just have sexual desires. They don’t come to terms with them. They just do them. It’s none of our business. None of anyone’s business.

    And no one cares about this issues except lawheads and totalitarians.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @restless94110

    '... People just have sexual desires. They don’t come to terms with them. They just do them...'

    If they're utterly amoral and indifferent to the effect on their prospective partner, sure.

    '...It’s none of our business. None of anyone’s business...'

    That depends a lot on what they did, to whom they did it, and who it is who is aware of the act. I'll refrain from formulating the rather disgusting possible examples.

    You want sex to be some kind of magically clean, consequence-free act. It can be -- but often, it's not. That's why all societies ring it round with masses of ritualistic bumph.

    Replies: @restless94110, @restless94110

  • @Hubert
    @Curmudgeon

    1. A basic rule of journalistic ethics is to ensure that what you put in quotation marks is what was actually said by the person (especially easy in this case as it's recorded and publicly available). That journalists and lawyers show scant regard for truth on a regular basis is surely no defence. Moreover, Dershowitz complains the loudest when he says he has been misquoted and insists that journalists and lawyers respect basic ethics in their fields.

    2. The article demonstrates that Dershowitz misled - and deliberately misleading people at least beyond a certain point is one way of lying. This is especially the case when we look at what he did by removing "For a long time", deliberately changing the entire meaning of the quote. It is the kind of deliberate untruth that courts frequently count as a 'lie'.

    3. Nowhere does the article assume the truth of all Farmer is saying and there are in fact some cautious phrases here and there ("alleged" more than once "whatever one makes of Farmer's claims")- the focus is more on Dershowitz's dishonest rendering of her words. It's actually quite non-committal over the question of Dershowitz's innocence or guilt, though it does note that if he can dismiss witnesses on account of their alleged vices, then it is open for others to question his reliability given his dishonesty, as shown both in the article and via many other sources.

    Replies: @Curmudgeon

    1. I agree with you about quotations and showing scant regard. However, context is also important. I dealt with “journalists” during my work life, and was an interim spokesperson several times. While individual journalists contacted me before publication or broadcast to apologize for what was coming, it is the ownership that drives the bus, and the ownership literally owns the editors. My point is that what Dershowitz has done is accepted as normal, except when it runs contrary to the media narrative.

    2. Deliberately misleading is lying. So is placing stories or quotes out of context. Farmer claims that Dersh “met” Epstein previously. What does “met” mean? I have “met” hundreds of people that I wouldn’t recognize and had nothing to do with, post “meeting”. The latter includes several politicians, and famous entertainers, who probably would not remember “meeting” me. This goes to the entire bullshit method of “ties”. Am I “tied” to someone I met through a friend but have never seen again?

    3. My point about Farmer is that she is telling a story that may, or may not be true. While Whitney Webb has done some excellent work, there is a whole lot of, as yet, uncorroborated statements made by a lot of people, including Farmer that she accepts as fact. There is no evidence of the author of this article scrutinizing Farmer’s narrative (or Webb’s) in the way he scrutinized Dersh O’Shits.

    No one here, including Alden, actually “knows” anything. Statements and depositions, until proven, are nothing but accusations.

    • Replies: @Hubert
    @Curmudgeon

    Don't disagree re evidence. But AD made specific claims about a publicly available interview. These were deliberately misleading and defamatory. This was demonstrated in the article. As regards Farmer's statements - agreed - who knows whether she is telling the truth or not. Hence the need for these issues to be thrashed out in court, challenged by AD and others etc. But if one limits oneself to what can currently be demonstrated then AD's assertions can be shown to be deliberately misleading in a way Farmer's can't (at least with regard to what is publicly accessible at this point). All you can say so far is that we need to hear more re Farmer's claims (e.g. what she means by 'met' etc. which you are right about).

    , @Art
    @Curmudgeon

    The Jews are in a self-imposed cultural trap, having to defend a real shithead.

    Don’t know about the legal courts, but in the court of public opinion – Dershowitz trashing Farmer, is a loser for the tribe. The problem is that more and more people know she is telling the truth about the elite Jews and the coercive tribe that backs them. They correctly see him as a bullying elite Jew, not as a victim.

    You can only go to the well so many times. Dershowitz is rapidly using up what little grace water the Jews have.

    From now on, every time Dershowitz opens his mouth using the Jew war cry of "anti-Semitism" - defending himself and attacking the true victim, he brings down the Jew tribe.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Curmudgeon

    , @anon
    @Curmudgeon

    " I have “met” hundreds of people that I wouldn’t recognize and had nothing to do with, post “
    Countries have managed to wage wars because someone met somebody Countries have managed to put people away in Gitmo because someone met somebody . Sometimes somebody lied about meeting someone making that a crime worthy of getting removed from society for years .


    That argument and consequences must have been heard many times but Dershowitz himself just like any other avid supporters of that arguments and the consequences .


    Unlike these girls,Dershowitz is known to have made atrocious claims ,have disparaged less powerful ,people have forced universities to capitulate and raised the specter of financial squeezing of the institutes. He has a background that these girls dont have . He is lawyer with no moral bone .


    By the way , why these people from Clinton to Prince Andrew - why were they meeting Epstein and meeting him in a sordid island known for being nothing but a sex lab? Were they planning next golf outing or next injection of the heroin ? Were they discussing state polices on health education or finances ?

    Did Epstein meet with any person ever who did not have either money or status as a celebrity ?

    Replies: @anon

    , @Alden
    @Curmudgeon

    I may not know the facts of the case, but I do know the laws re underage prostitution and transporting persons across state borders for the purposes of prostitution and illegal sex acts.

  • @Derer
    @Colin Wright

    Epstein, Dershowitz, Polanski, Weinstein, Clinton, Weiner...hmm hmm one of these names is not like the other...hmm hmm one of these names is not like the other.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Epstein, Dershowitz, Polanski, Weinstein, Clinton, Weiner…hmm hmm one of these names is not like the other…hmm hmm one of these names is not like the other.’

    I think we can confer an honorary membership on him.

  • @Colin Wright
    @Alden

    '... You have the internet. Use it moron...'

    That's about enough. Fuck off.

    Replies: @Alden, @Curmudgeon

    Truth hurts, doesn’t it.

  • @Colin Wright
    @restless94110

    'The simplest way to remove that issue completely is you become a country where garden variety sex work is not a shocking and/or criminal thing.'

    This was not garden variety prostitution -- a transaction between two experienced and willing partners.

    This was the cynical exploitation of vulnerable minors. They were eaten up like candy and then tossed aside.

    I find this whole thread curious. On the one hand, we have people who ferociously denounce even the thought that someone might find teenage girls sexually attractive -- really, a decidedly unrealistic attitude, and I suspect a hypocritical one. On the other, we have people who want to insist that seducing a troubled fourteen year-old by waving all your wealth and power in front of her and then dragging her off to a remote island where she can be mounted by a succession of lascivious sixty-somethings is just fine.

    In both camps, I'd say there're a lot of people have yet to come to terms with their own sexual desires. Admit what you actually want -- but don't try to pretend that therefore it's just fine.

    No, just because you want it doesn't mean you should have it. That would appear to be beyond Alan Dershowitz et al -- but presumably some of the readers here can rise to that rather modest moral height.

    Replies: @Alden, @restless94110

    The law is the law. If the age of consent is 18 in your state, go across the border and try to pick up a 16 or 17 year old high school girl in a state where the age of consent is 16. But don’t pay her money for sex because prostitution is also against the law everywhere in the United States.

    What I find unreal about the Epstein Maxwell threads is that a few, very few, commenters are such morons they confuse age of consent, statutory rape and prostitution, soliciting for prostitution, pimping procuring and keeping a brothel. According to the standard criminal law definition that’s what Epstein and his hench women were doing in his 4 houses.

    Prostitution is prostitution and it’s illegal.

    • Replies: @restless94110
    @Alden

    But of course you illustrate so eloquently that it should not be illegal as should not all of the constructs you listed. So eloquently.

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  • @Fran800
    @Bombercommand

    Were they minors? Again and again we hear Epstein's island as "pedo island", and such statements are "He liked them the younger the better." And "Some were as young as 15." But most of them were older. Whether or not they were minors depends on the legal age for sec in the place where they were. Having sex with a female below that age used to be called "Statutory rape", whether the girl was willing or not. But a real pedophile would not scorn sex with an 18 year old but seek sex with a 15 year old. Real pedophiles go after real children -- starting with 12-13 year olds maybe and down from there. A real pedophile would have no interest in any of these girls. It seems this case rests on the technical definition of legal age for sex -- a process crime, something like "mail fraud". Dershowitz and the Epstein gang may be unpleasant Jews. But is the crime we are going after them for engaging in pedophiliac activity for girls in their late teens?

    Replies: @Alden, @Colin Wright, @Alden

    Another moron who doesn’t even know the definition of pedophile. A pedophile has sex with children 12 and under. Pedophilia ends on the child’s 13 birthday. The penalties get worse depending on the age of the victim. Same with sex assault against teen minors.