The MSM is more upset the video was shown than by the horrific murder shown.
The media and liberals in general have two excuses for being against publicity for murders of this type. One is “this happens all the time so it’s not news.” The other is “This shouldn’t be a big deal because it rarely happens.”
Seemingly contradictory but they have the same purpose.
Wrong.
“Personally I am getting tired of this trope of 'discrimination against whites and Asians.' First of all, instead of 'whites' it should explicitly read 'white gentiles' otherwise the phrase is lying by omission and people don’t see what is really going on.”
A very good discourse on reality.
It’s a meme these characters never get tired of.
I'm surprised if I didn't since I've answered that question numerous times.
I asked you years ago why, if anyone wanted to get rid of JFK, they didn’t expose him with a sex scandal. You never gave a serious answer.
For example, why didn’t the Deep State/Establishment expose the affair with the East German woman which almost came out in 1963 but was covered up? JFK would have been humiliated, discredited and forced to resign as a laughing stock.
If the “Deep State” was a powerful as you claim and wanted to do away with JFK, destroying with a sex scandal WOULD have been fatal.
What hard actual evidence of these sex scandals are you privy to? Have you ever run across any compromising photos? I haven't and it's been over sixty years. Any audio of some wild tryst or orgy? Nothing...It's all circumstantial, grapevine, some names on a white house log. That's not to say all this womanizing isn't valid, but there's nothing damning aside from Monroe singing a flirty birthday number & JFK being photographed alongside people.Supposedly there's way more damning material in regard to Stanley Levinson's adopted son, MLK. Perhaps JFK wasn't as careless when it came down to leaving bread crumbs. Without photographs & at the very least audio; you don't have much do you? Epstein 101.
If the “Deep State” was a powerful as you claim and wanted to do away with JFK, destroying with a sex scandal WOULD have been fatal.
You seem totally confused about the American political landscape of the early 1960s.
If the “Deep State” was a powerful as you claim and wanted to do away with JFK, destroying with a sex scandal WOULD have been fatal.
That just wouldn't have played in the MSM of the day, and in any case, pursuing the Ellen Rometsch affair led straight through Bobby Baker, and that course would have implicated probably dozens of U.S. politicians, including especially Vice President Lyndon Johnson, who had well-known close ties with Baker.Replies: @BlackFlag, @David In TN
I asked you years ago why, if anyone wanted to get rid of JFK, they didn’t expose him with a sex scandal.
Does assassination of a president play in the MSM of the day?
Why risk being executed if there was a safer way to end JFK’s presidency and career?
You'll have to take that up with JFK's assassins.Look, no matter what you think, it didn't happen that way, and nobody has ever been brought to justice for JFK's assassination, let alone being executed for it.They blew his brains out and got away with it.Sad and tragic, but true.
Why risk being executed if there was a safer way to end JFK’s presidency and career?
Well, I obviously wasn't claiming that Israel alone killed the Kennedys. Indeed, nearly half my long article focused on the very likely involvement of Lyndon Johnson and James Angleton, both of whom were very close to Israel.
Pail Craig Roberts speaks highly of Ron Unz but disagrees that Israel killed JFK. He says, “I noted that Israel had no ability or cause to alter an official autopsy or ability to send Jack Ruby into a Dallas jail to shoot Oswald before he could talk.” Here is PCR’s interview on the assassination with Larry Sparano:
Ron,
I asked you years ago why, if anyone wanted to get rid of JFK, they didn’t expose him with a sex scandal. You never gave a serious answer.
For example, why didn’t the Deep State/Establishment expose the affair with the East German woman which almost came out in 1963 but was covered up? JFK would have been humiliated, discredited and forced to resign as a laughing stock.
That just wouldn't have played in the MSM of the day, and in any case, pursuing the Ellen Rometsch affair led straight through Bobby Baker, and that course would have implicated probably dozens of U.S. politicians, including especially Vice President Lyndon Johnson, who had well-known close ties with Baker.Replies: @BlackFlag, @David In TN
I asked you years ago why, if anyone wanted to get rid of JFK, they didn’t expose him with a sex scandal.
I'm surprised if I didn't since I've answered that question numerous times.
I asked you years ago why, if anyone wanted to get rid of JFK, they didn’t expose him with a sex scandal. You never gave a serious answer.
For example, why didn’t the Deep State/Establishment expose the affair with the East German woman which almost came out in 1963 but was covered up? JFK would have been humiliated, discredited and forced to resign as a laughing stock.
A friend of mine visited Dealey Plaza and went inside the Texas School Depository. He said Oswald was right on top of JFK as he came by. It was an easy shot.
I would say it lasted until the early 60s.
The Democrat Party, having already lost the white working class and losing ground among blacks and Hispanics, will not rest until they have 200% of the urban and suburban college educated childless cat lady/wine aunt vote. 100% is not enough. Surely if they can increase voting in this bloc to 200% they will clinch the next election. Gillibrand is paving the way for an unprecedent Democrat victory in 2028 by stirring up her base.
Of course as Steve says, step 2 in this little piece of political theater is to have the S. Ct. reject the ratification. This will provide fodder for 1,000 fund raising emails.
Sotomayor is 70 and diabetic. Just wait until the Trump majority on the court becomes 7 to 2. Trump is already the luckiest bastard on earth and chances are it will only get better from here.
70 is not old.Replies: @deep anonymous, @Jack D, @Mark G., @fish
Sotomayor is 70 and diabetic.
I've had no money and I've had a lot of money and I'll vouch that having more money is better.
... and 90% of them have no interest in Power, just Money.
Money is only unimportant if you have some. It doesn’t have to be a lot but below a certain level it’s really bad if you don’t have it.
But I agree with you that the average American is richer than 99% of all people in history. Compared to the average person of the past, we live like kings.
Even since my childhood, the country has become much richer. Average families used to live in one small house without AC, drive 1 stripped down car (also no AC), did not fly on a plane except in rare circumstances, etc. Entertainment was 1 B&W TV. There was one landline phone in the house. Computers were something the Social Security Administration had. Etc.
The only two choices available to women are not Madonna or whore as you seem to posit in your black and white view of the world.
Jack, do you ever – I mean ever – question the wisdom of your sophomoric Boomer liberation ideology? That maybe – just maybe – insisting upon treating two unalike things as if they are the same in practice leads to negative outcomes? This appears to be the error of our age and you appear to be entirely unable to recognize it like a man organizing his sandals while Vesuvius grumbles overhead.
Approximately two generations after Women’s liberation and the Sexual Revolution there are more unwanted children and more abortions, fewer marriages, young women report much higher rates of deep unhappiness mitigated with heavy-duty psychiatric medications, many young men are listless and without purpose, a whole cohort of young people is inventing bespoke genders, and the population of Western nations is on a trajectory to extinction within plain view. Was this what was promised?
You might think that a thirtysomething woman having awkward, semi-flaccid condom sex with a stranger without social stigma was worth the bargain but many others do not. Everyone exists within an invisible market – broken people willing to set the market at its rock bottom breaks the whole of it.
Perhaps men and women’s promiscuity is equally morally objectionable, but that women’s promiscuity is practically and socially more objectionable? Are you even able to grasp that there might be a confluence of influences that support prior social mores and the balance between the sexes?
Did you ever think that maybe you should seek to understand the intricate workings of the system in your grasp before pulling parts out and bolting other things on? “It takes two to tango” is the stupidest rationale for civilizational suicide that one can imagine.
The Madonna/whore dichotomy can be seen as simple fairness, a compromise. Men have benefited from both types of women.Jack, do you ever – I mean ever – question the wisdom of your sophomoric [expletive deleted] liberation ideology? That maybe – just maybe – insisting upon treating two unalike things as if they are the same in practice leads to negative outcomes?
The only two choices available to women are not Madonna or whore as you seem to posit in your black and white view of the world.
So what was the sales pitch for The Execution of Private Slovik? Let's make an uplifting movie about a poor hapless slob who was drafted and just doesn't want to do die or kill other people, whom the American Army stood up against a wall and drilled with a half dozen or so 30-06 rounds. The feel good movie of 1974!
It’s an easier sale. This is not that difficult.
I saw it when The Execution of Private Slovik was a TV movie on NBC. I read that Frank Sinatra wanted to make a movie about it around 1960 but it was turned down. It supposedly couldn’t be made while General Eisenhower was still alive.
A coworker of mine told me his father was in the 28th Infantry Division and was a member of the firing squad that shot Slovik. The names of the firing squad are in William Bradford Huie’s book on Slovik. I checked and his name was on the list.
It was said the riot after the Memphis march was the biggest defeat of King’s career. Then he was shot.
The difference is that Penny was actually not guilty. OJ was guilty but set free by jury nullification.
I’ve always gotten a kick out of the Stalin-Yezhov photos.
It was another real-life version of Tom Wolfe’s The Bonfire of the Vanities. The perpetual search for The Great White Defendant.
Regarding Wise, some years ago his Nashville address was given on the internet. Out of curiosity I found his house (it was a two story McMansion) and drove around in the neighborhood. There wasn’t a black person in sight. There was a golf course nearby (it was around 1 PM) and two elderly White men were playing golf.
I think Wise moved but I can assure you his next abode was still in South Nashville.
Speaking of Yoran, was it her job to refer to the defendant as “the white man.” and “the white defendant?” Do you know of a prosecutor calling a black defendant “the black man” and “the black defendant?”
This happened in 1967, almost 60 years ago. So for most Americans under say 70, which is most Americans, this is ancient history. The Germans and the Japanese killed 400,000 American boys in WWII and we have no hard feelings there. The Vietnamese killed 50,000 around the same time and there's no hard feelings.
It’s remarkable how few Americans even know about the USS Liberty
Overall it looks to have been a fog of war happenstance, egregious to be sure. But strange things happen.
I loved Elvis Presley when he first appeared.
We know the establishment Republicans are a problem. We have to work for the best results in the situation we have. The Dixiecrats are not coming back.
Eventually MSNBC fired Buchanan after employing him for several years as a commentator from the Right.
There is one thing I’ve observed in my lifetime. American businessmen and politicians will make any decision, or not make a decision, according to how much money it will bring them. Even a relatively small amount of money.
Walter O’Malley moving the Dodgers to Los Angeles is a prime examples. As are all the other sports franchise moves.
Lenny Kravitz aside, and that girl who was turned into a Netflix story, I’m not sure I’ve encountered this meaning Jews adopting Blacks. I’ve known one gentile who looked into it and backed away. Another who let a kid live with him but didn’t go all the way to adoption. And there are weirdos like David French (gentile but sucks up to Jews) who does it and seems to like advertising the fact. Is this prevalent in your city?Replies: @David In TN
that my urban progressive Jewish neighbors drink their own Kool-Aid (adopt, marry Blacks
Some years ago French was speaking somewhere and held his adoptee up for the crowd to see.
“David French’s career has been so peculiar you wonder if he was some sort of sleeper agent.”
Can anyone name a serious conservative article by David French? Or a substantial critique of the Left? No, you can’t. But French stayed at National Review for several years criticizing conservatives. Finally, even NRO’s gullible readers had enough of him.
French is now at the New York Times as their “conservative” columnist. French whines about how “mean and nasty” public discourse is, “too many attacks.” Meanwhile, French is attacking somebody almost every day, and it’s always a conservative.
They don't call him 'Vichy French' for nothing.
Meanwhile, French is attacking somebody almost every day, and it’s always a conservative.
Between 1970 and 1973, the black supremacist murder cult, the nation of islam, slaughtered 27 Whites in the city of Alameda. The noi is more infamous for “the Zebra murders,” between 1973 and 1974, when it murdered 15 Whites in San Francisco. The noi never murdered anyone, to my knowledge, in Oakland.
“Updated List of Nation of Islam Attacks on Whites”
https://thezebraproject.blogspot.com/2020/08/updated-list-of-nation-of-islam-attacks.html
The Men of Unz are too stupid for a serious discussion.
anon279. The military forces of the Confederacy surrendered but the government never did. Reparations for the unprecedented destruction wreaked by the Union army on Southerners, black and white, would be justice indeed. It can’t happen because it would require Yankees to admit that they are not supremely righteous. However, most descendants of slaveowners do not want them back.
The CSA got its revenge in 1967 in Detroit.
Reparations for the unprecedented destruction wreaked by the Union army on Southerners,
Vermont has had a Jewish governor, Maine a French-Canadian one, and New Hampshire at least two Arabs, and a third married to one. Yankeedom's last hurrah in Massachusetts was Gov Coolidge's breaking the Boston policemen's union a century ago. "There is no right to strike against the public safety, anywhere, anytime." What would Jefferson have said to that?
It can’t happen because it would require Yankees to admit that they are not supremely righteous.
When I was recently in SF my daughter insisted that we NOT stay in Union Square because of the crime. It is my understanding that many of the dept. stores (not that I am interested in visiting a dept. store) and other stores in the area have closed or are about to close. Even without the crime I don't think Union Square cracks the top 10 in things to do in SF.
Union Square has recently fallen on my priority list of must-see places to visit in the Bay Area.
Jack, I have to say I’m shocked by your comment. It’s way below your usual standards.
“It was really not worth risking his life for an overpriced, easily replaced trinket.”
I frequently cover crimes by blacks whose victims submitted to them, yet the perps murdered them anyway. The cops and the msm have created an m.o. for lying about such crimes. They call them a “drug deal gone wrong,” a “robbery gone awry,” etc. Nonsense. They were murders gone right. The perps fully intended to murder the vics, and the robberies were mere afterthoughts.
“At the very least he need [sic] more training in how to disarm someone.”
I am unaware of such training, unless you meant firearms training, in which you learn to shoot the perp dead, and then disarm him.
I frequently cover crimes by blacks whose victims submitted to them, yet the perps murdered them anyway. The cops and the msm have created an m.o. for lying about such crimes. They call them a “drug deal gone wrong,” a “robbery gone awry,” etc. Nonsense. They were murders gone right. The perps fully intended to murder the vics, and the robberies were mere afterthoughts.
“It was really not worth risking his life for an overpriced, easily replaced trinket.”
I am unaware of such training, unless you meant firearms training, in which you learn to shoot the perp dead, and then disarm him.Replies: @MM, @Jack D, @David In TN
“At the very least he need [sic] more training in how to disarm someone.”
“They call them a ‘drug deal gone wrong,’ a ‘robbery gone awry,’etc. Nonsense. They were murders gone right. The perps fully intended to murder the vics, and the robberies ere mere afterthoughts.”
The other stand by is “random.”
Pete Shields didn't "take a position" with Handgun Control, he damn near founded it. It was begun by robbery victim Mark Borinsky in 1974, the year Nelson IV was murdered. Nelson III came on board as chairman the next year and built it into the force it became. Without him, nothing. (Making your first hire a "marketing manager" can really pay off; the same happened with Little Free Libraries a generation later.) Of course, Mark David Chapman and John Hinckley did their part as well.Odd, if not fun, fact: Nelson IV died with a lacrosse stick in his hands. Didn't help. He needed a Shield.Replies: @David In TN
After his son’s murder, he resigned his position and took a position as staff director for a lobby...
Pete Shields stepped down from Handgun Control in 1989. Sarah Brady took his place. Shields died of cancer in 1993.
Yes, but it was nothing in 1975, and rather robust by 1989, albeit against a burgeoning opposition. Sarah Brady didn't really add much. Just a live victim to parade around.
Pete Shields stepped down from Handgun Control in 1989. Sarah Brady took his place.
Wikipedia's list of lynchings includes a column for "accusation", implying the act, by definition, is intended for retribution. A true lynching is rough justice, not injustice. A killing, no matter how horrific, not based on an accusation would rightly be left off the list. But do be consistent about it.
I notice the Knoxville Horror didn’t make their lynching list... brutally raping, torturing and murdering a young white couple for no reason other than racial jealous and hatred.
The Knoxville Horror was just one black on White murder case in which the media and law enforcement authorities declared, “Race was not a factor.” They do this in virtually every black on White murder. The only one were they admitted it was “racial,” was the 1970s Zebra Murders.
And with the far rarer White on black murder they ALWAYS claim it was “racial.”
When he was a Democrat Trump was also friendly with Ted Kennedy. Trump gave money to Ted Kennedy’s senate campaign and to other Kennedys running for office.
There used to be a commemoration of the Zebra Murders every October in San Francisco. Members of local law enforcement would be invited but almost never attended.
Somebody should ask former San Francisco District Attorney Harris if she ever attended one. I don’t think “somebody” or anybody will.
If asked, Harris would likely declare, “I never heard of it.”
There are reasonable answers to your questions here: https://www.unz.com/article/reap-what-you-sow-russian-reaction-to-the-trump-assassination-attempt-is-biblical/.
How could the same kind of bullet completely blow someone’s head off and just make a tiny minuscule nick on someone else?!
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Where Did the bullet go by the way? Where is the bullet with Trump’s blood?
Crooks had 5 years to practice shooting between the time he was banned from the high school team and the day he shot and killed one man seriously wounded two others and very slightly wounded Trump.
JFK was a problem, so they assassinated him with a sniper.Unfortunately for them, this assassin missed.Replies: @Art Deco
Don’t believe me, then prove me wrong, show me just a single example where the presidential winner has ever been a problem for them in the last hundred years.
JFK was a problem, so they assassinated him with a sniper.
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He wasn’t a problem for the security services and he was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald, not some nebulous ‘they’.
Self-described patsy Lee Harvey Oswald.Replies: @Art Deco
and he was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald
Thanks to Trump, we now know that is not true. The declassified JFK papers Trump has released show the CIA was involved.Replies: @Art Deco
He wasn’t a problem for the security services and he was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald, not some nebulous ‘they’.
Maureen Callahan would fully agree with you that Jacqueline Onassis “was never destroyed.” She makes her the heroine of the book.
Michael Skakel got out of prison due in no small measure to RFK Jr.’s machinations. And see the chapter on the suicide of Bobby Jr’s second wife.
in 1973, Pamela Kelley was paralyzed for life at age 18 when future congressman Joe Kennedy drove a jeep wildly, throwing the occupants out. When she tried to get up, in her words, “nothing happened.”
JFK Jr. almost collided with an air liner with over 200 people on board that night. He didn’t file a flight plan among other things. His previous girlfriend, Christina Haag, wrote a book detailing how John almost killed her three times through his reckless behavior.
Callahan does IMO make too much of the Marilyn Monroe relationship with the Kennedys.
The Caste Football cretin is just brain-dead stupid.
A friend of mine toured the site and said it was not a difficult shot for Oswald.
JFK’s driver was under orders to hit the accelerator if he heard shots. Instead, he slowed to a virtual stop and looked back over his shoulder.
A cretin at Caste Football declared it to be “staged.”
Two suggestions. (1) his hobnobbing with Russian expats was not peculiar; his wife was a White Russian expatriate and they were materially dependent on Ruth Paine, a Quaker for whom Russian expatriates were a peculiar hobby. (2) suggest what’s notable about Oswald is delusions of grandeur. He was not unintelligent (IIRC, there are surviving psychometric test he took which put him at about the 87th percentile of the population), but he lacked the diligence to see anything to a conclusion and he had no capacity to engage in co-operative projects with anyone or work within hierarchies. The attraction to unconventional politics can be understood as a self-aggrandizing exercise on the part of a man who made a hash of everything he attempted. Supposedly, one thing which would set off his temper was his wife reminding him he was a lousy provider. One thing to explore is how Oswald reacted to his brothers and to Michael Paine (all of whom were functional adults).
I hear you on his ne'r-do-well status, but his defection to Russia (which always shocks me when I think about it) belies that. He made a major MAJOR life change and followed through on it. And then managed to get out and get his Russian born wife out. And he nearly did the same defection to Cuba through Mexico, blocked only by the Cuban government's suspicions of him (allegedly).Oswald seemed to be very capable of following through on major-league life changes to a conclusion.
He was not unintelligent (IIRC, there are surviving psychometric test he took which put him at about the 87th percentile of the population), but he lacked the diligence to see anything to a conclusion and he had no capacity to engage in co-operative projects with anyone or work within hierarchies.
Maureen Callahan has a new book on the subject, “Ask Not: The Kennedys and the Women They Destroyed.”
One thing I have noticed about ADOS blacks is that they have no understanding of how to run a business and in particular no instinctive feel for what “the customer is always right” or “continuous improvement” means. Blacks consistently overestimate their skills and abilities due to the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Since they are already great in their own opinion, people should just recognize their greatness and flock to them. (Black women have the same attitude about men). If they don’t, there’s nothing wrong with them (and no need to change anything). The customers are probably not showing up because they are racists or somethin’.
At least they share one thing with Europeans! Remember Land's End being threatened in Germany for their generous returns policy? Sie haben Ihre Meinung über diese Jeans geändert? Aber sie sind vollkommen akzeptabel!
no instinctive feel for what “the customer is always right”
You weren’t too busy. You just could not be bothered.
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Except in idiot jurisdictions like Georgia, it takes a few minutes to cast a ballot. New York managed to set up one polling station for ever 1,000 residents, when Georgia could not manage 1 per 6,000. This is learned helplessness.
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As for clots during the day, move voting times to Friday evening, Saturday morning, and Saturday afternoon. Saturday is a regular work day for about 12% of the population, no more.
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That ordinary things and simple things were not done and an orgy of postal balloting was permitted is an indicator that people in charge of these matters are fools or conniving swine.
Similarly, the 1970s Dodgers had lots of stars but no superstars like their rival Reds had in abundance.
Sure, I saw it several years ago, but thought it was so-so at best, with a mediocre plot and acting. From what I remember, it was just a bunch of right-wing Texas oil millionaires deciding to assassinate the President because he was too liberal. Offhand, I don't recall any strong suggestion that the VP was involved. The Oliver Stone film was vastly superior in every way, and The Conversation and The Parallax View were also much better.Replies: @David In TN, @Che Guava
If you haven’t seen it, the 70s film Executive Action is worth watching. It is less of a serious attempt than Stone’s (itself having many shortcomings from things I’ve read, but still a good film), but it does lean in the direction of a Johnson involvement. It is only implied, not directly stated.
Executive Action was the fantasy of Hollywood liberals at the time. There were some unintentionally funny lines. Burt Lancaster says, “If they had anything to discredit him, they would have done so.”
If the Deep State wanted to “discredit” JFK all they had to do was expose his womanizing, such as sharing a woman with the head of the Chicago Outfit.
In 1963, his playing around with an East German woman from Bobby Baker’s stable almost broke into the news. Some media people were thinking of investigating it at the time Oswald shot him.
No president would have been easier to “discredit” than JFK, who was actually more “in” with the Deep State than those who came after him.
I’ve asked Ron Unz this before, but again, “If they wanted JFK destroyed, why not expose his womanizing?” It would have made him a joke.
Chen Yi: Speaking of the effectiveness of efforts to pull Nehru to our side, our method will be more efficient, and yours is time-serving [opportunism- prisposoblenchestvo].N.S. Khrushchev: Chen Yi is Minister of Foreign Affairs and he can weigh his words. He did not say it at random. We have existed for 42 years, and for 30 years we existed alone [as a socialist country] and adjusted to nothing, but carried out our principled communist policy.Chen Yi (in great agitation and hastily): The Chinese people evoked pity for a long time and during many decades lived under oppression of British, American, French and other imperialists. The Soviet comrades should understand this. We are now undertaking certain measures to resolve the conflict with India peacefully, and just one fact testifies to this, that perhaps Vice President of India Radhakrishnan will come to us in mid-October. We also have a certain element of time-serving. You should understand our policy correctly. Our line is firmer and more correct.N.S. Khrushchev: Look at this lefty. Watch it, comrade Chen Yi, if you turn left, you may end up going to the right. The oak is also firm, but it breaks. I believe that we should leave this issue aside, for we have a different understanding of it.
https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/discussion-between-ns-khrushchev-and-mao-zedongReplies: @Art Deco
Chen Yi: But you also lay two political accusations at our door, by saying that both the aggravations of relations with India and the escape of Dalai Lama were our fault. I believe that you are still acting as time-servers.N.S. Khrushchev: These are completely different matters. I drew your attention only to specific oversights and never hurled at you principled political accusations, and you put forth precisely a political accusation. If you consider us time-servers, comrade Chen Yi, then do not offer me your hand. I will not accept it.Chen Yi: Neither will I. I must tell you I am not afraid of your fury.N.S. Khrushchev: You should not spit from the height of your Marshal title. You do not have enough spit. We cannot be intimidated.
Mr. Nixon was never a ‘right wing’ anything. Issues for him were largely fungible. To the extent he had actual policy preferences, they favored the Rockefeller wing over the Reagan wing. The leftoid chatterati loathed him because (1) his investigative activity ca. 1948 brought down Alger Hiss and left the impression there was a lot of slime under the rock of liberal politics and (2) he (and Spiro Agnew) unapologetically affirmed common-and-garden bourgeois values.
I recall Nixon being given a presentation-grade AK-47 by some country; he hated guns so much it was eventually destroyed rather than being handed off to some museum or presidential library.
Mr. Nixon was never a ‘right wing’ anything.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/chiwan082099.htm
Campaigning for the presidency in 1992, Bill Clinton accused his incumbent rival, George Bush, of coddling dictators in China and sending "secret emissaries to raise a toast with those who crushed democracy" in Tiananmen Square. Now the shoe is on the other foot.George W. Bush, son of the former president and front-runner for the GOP nomination next year, has reopened the China issue with a blast at Clinton. In a television interview last weekend, he said Clinton "made a mistake [in] calling China a strategic partner" and "sent bad signals" to Beijing about U.S. policy toward Taiwan."We need to be tough and firm" in the face of Chinese
Soviet infiltration was favorable to CCP in another way. Alger Hiss' colleague, Harry Dexter White, very probably subverted the pre-Pearl Harbor negotiations. American entry played right into Mao's Protracted War strategy against Japan.https://www.amazon.com/Treasonable-Doubt-Harry-Dexter-White/dp/0700613110/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3ADTSQOP9DQQC&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.656Uls5WYA1oSIocDpa20HuepD8P_sT0GnXBsg2NXQEOzrS9XgrqE7MZAEfaOChVcYGe576N13K2wFRsCPdIu_7i8HudtHhgFnezC3zUB6VXeWoYu39QLdwmLPh33VJ_oWMkZUiWBvN4u0rY9id0v4GAVNO0YXG1fRKSS9GMpPjFmUcfANe9JyVT0ELwggiTj4gNKh5VL6K_QMPwEdg5PPyBylxQ4p0iokcoLZMT6fs.XnjhgYdAwMogk-6HG_9gRVENCmAk6CGBP8IQnEI19ss&dib_tag=se&keywords=harry+dexter+white&qid=1718116343&sprefix=harry+dexter+whit%2Caps%2C264&sr=8-4https://www.amazon.com/Operation-Snow-World-War-Collection/dp/1621572927/ref=sr_1_1?crid=TTODTLY2Z6DT&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.fqXBIpA9HuD_3fTQckEphmnNYps7BiH26HCAUZKhS6od6Za5gtA4KCQKtOgha18Lz8NkhXdbOXeAXmXq48vDdmBOn-XVXPoQtTBhZnXsa4nD27ZlVgzGxr0KSTz3bDWtnWbUhTj40d0ssUhTuuOcQcyHICbh9s6NRN6DKa-yDtUOPI-Wxf6whuM0O5Hdzr7o9FOXla6eJvGiS15iKK_m__4N3vxIPGQyWp7QGfDsWSI.uQ6FlQFSN94h8bU-8JRu4hZT7hGCQL1GRZIACg4JD-M&dib_tag=se&keywords=operation+snow&qid=1718116503&sprefix=operation+snow%2Caps%2C255&sr=8-1https://www.amazon.com/Protracted-War-Graphyco-Editions/dp/B086PSL97G/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2WEDMEN72E5MO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.bV7TNcJt8tkKbad6HrfFoKeR9lX1ZmseUm5sxqE0Hppy4r13FN527kMwEKVGvG4cKQKQxJYjfUC4ddFe4XtNSPaZdQqka4aTCTqCLuvU-vrtAbm3VMP8CfyUIG6SM47kzfDKIObo4BM8xPEgm7EFOlN-7GrycjWjAlDFw7xlkQTeGzFADeNjfLgmx4MyfvCXNTLNNq78Xddfcq4R9OTRNykmtuStZ1FG5kwTktt5nEU.53iHp9EWP5Yu96niaF7Q68ND0q4XcohR8MjAgVV1u0I&dib_tag=se&keywords=protracted+war&qid=1718116545&sprefix=protracted+war%2Caps%2C262&sr=8-1
slime under the rock of liberal politics
Williams did leave the states. He was sent to a first-line Marine fighter squadron late in the war but it was ended by the A-bombs before he saw combat.
There were several dozen German pilots who flew the ME-262 jet fighter, a story which is covered by a number of books.
But you had the time to write this inane message.
I could respond to that but I do not have time to engage in conversations with multiple Catholic religious fanatics here. Just Twinkie is more than enough.
Or we could've not done the stimulus payments during Covid (CARES Act), which cost the USG $2.2 trillion (as opposed to $45 billion in US military aid to Ukraine). Actually, we could've still done the CARES Act, but just spend 2% less and use that money for Ukraine.
Vivek Ramaswamy has said we should end further military assistance to the Ukraine and redirect the money saved to strengthen border control on our southern border. I think that is a great idea. I know, though, you and Twinkie support sending more money to the corrupt dictator Zelensky so that would not be appealing to you two.
I am not a fan of the Zelensky regime or the Ukrainian government in general, to be mild about it,
The fact that there is anyone left in Ukraine who possesses even a shred of human decency after more than a century of terror and mass murder is a miracle akin to a tree sprouting from a lava field after a volcanic eruption. Even if this tree is a little bit deformed and crooked, it’s a miracle that it exists at all.
The democratic structures that we have in the US have been built over centuries and have never been burned. The Independence Hall you see today is the same Pennsylvania State House that was built in 1753 and the same flag has flown in front of it since 1776. I once counted the # of flags that flew over my mother’s shtetl in her lifetime and I think it was 10, so it’s not fair to compare their fledgling democracy with our system. Nevertheless, even in our system we have men at the highest reaches of government such as Senator Menendez and the Biden family who are as thoroughly corrupt as anyone you could find in Ukraine.
The same was true of the Polish government in 1939. The colonels who ruled after Pilsudski’s death were a bunch of idiots but they (and Poland) did nothing to deserve Hitler. The Rushists who point to the flaws in the Ukrainian government should take the advice of a certain 1st century CE Jewish philosopher who said, “Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.”
My take is more dispassionate. All that is required to support Ukraine against Russia is that Ukraine is not actively an enemy of the free world. Russia, from Rurikid to the current Putinist era, has never stopped. Comes from its aspiration towards universal empire, to be ruled from Moscow.
The fact that there is anyone left in Ukraine who possesses even a shred of human decency after more than a century of terror and mass murder is a miracle akin to a tree sprouting from a lava field after a volcanic eruption. Even if this tree is a little bit deformed and crooked, it’s a miracle that it exists at all.
When I first started following base ball at age 9-10, Willie Mays was in his prime. So was Mickey Mantle. In those days magazines would run stories like ‘Who is better, Mantle or Mays?”
I recall once a month or so, reading the sports pages, there would be an item about Willie Mays scoring from first on a single.
Not so sure about that any more. By 1969, Mantle’s health, the amount of injuries had taken its toll. He was a shell of himself by that point in time. Not to mention his alcoholism had definitely started to take its toll.
In the 80’s hit network show Remington Steele, there is an episode titled “Second Base Steele” (1984), where the 2 main characters Steele and Laura Holt have to solve intrigue around a baseball camp, basically a pros vs Joes.
Both Mickey and Whitey Ford make an appearance and are given lines. Whitey, though a few yrs older, didn’t look so bad for a man in his late 50’s (after all, Whitey lived until 2020, a few weeks shy of age 92).
Mickey on the other hand, looked like he was 70, and the episode was about ten yrs before his death.
So really unsure that he would’ve had a couple years at DH. Perhaps if the DH had been introduced in say, 1964 or 1965, then yes absolutely.
But not by 1969. Not for Mickey anyway.
Negroes murdering whites is racism directed at black people? Well, there’s an unconventional perspective. Will probably be the received wisdom before long, though, so perhaps you’re just ahead of the curve.
BtW, as several have pointed out before, Kenn’s surveys are just a sampling, taken from various local-news sites each month.
So don’t despair: the reality is much worse than these examples indicate. Or, from your perspective: much better.
“West was one of the opponents of the Vietnam war in the sixties.”
When did Jerry West say anything about Vietnam? West didn’t make any political statements in the book he put out in 1969. West mentioned his brother being lost in Korea but that’s all. And he said he didn’t have “a close family,” but without elaborating.
In later years he told of an unhappy family life with an abusive father as well as losing his brother. Jerry West didn’t talk much about his family when he was a player.
I’m waiting for Steve to have a thread on Jerry West. His death reminded me it was over 50 years since Jerry West was a player.
Interesting because West is only 117 points ahead of LeBron. One more finals series would probably push LeBron past West. I wonder if that is motivation to keep playing.
West was so accomplished — for example, scoring more points in NBA Finals series than any other player in history, even Jordan, Kareem, or LeBron
I still remember him when he was something of a high-pitched gadfly who seemed to be trying desperately to imitate P.J. O’Rourke.
Way back when, I used to get them confused. They both needed haircuts imho. P.J. had lots of good things to say but he was never anywhere near as influential as Tucker turned out to be.
And I still call it amazing that Tucker had the #1 highest-rated show on cable television yet couldn’t get a sponsor. The disconnect between the Establishment and the People could hardly want clearer illustration.
I didn't find it amazing at all. Eventually, Larry Fink got fed up and bought enough stock to get Carlson fired outright.
...And I still call it amazing that Tucker had the #1 highest-rated show on cable television yet couldn’t get a sponsor. The disconnect between the Establishment and the People could hardly want clearer illustration...
The NBA and corporate advertisers subsidize the WNBA. They will continue to do so no matter how little actual interest there is in it.
“Hitler ordered extermination of the Jews so they were sent to extermination camps where exactly 6 million were gassed in fake showers.”
This is a straw man. No one ever said that is what happened. You have 1.7 million gassed in Operation Reinhard. 1.5 million killed in Ukraine in the Holocaust of Bullets. In May of 1944, 400,000 Hungarian Jews are gassed at Auschwitz in a matter of a few weeks. Etc. A million here and a million there and then when you add it all up approximately 6 million Jews are dead. Was this at Hitler’s orders? Certainly – nothing that big could have happened in a dictatorship without authorization from the very top.
Read “The Destruction of the European Jews” by Hilberg. It is all laid out in detail in 800 pages.
No serious person disputes this. As a serious person neither does Steve and too bad that you are unhappy that he refuses to join your antisemitic flat earth cult.
“The Scotts had just resurfaced after going underground to avoid harassment from the FBI for harboring members of the Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA), including Patty Hearst, the granddaughter of the newspaper magnate William Randolph Hearst.”
Correction: The Scotts had just resurfaced after going underground to avoid arrest by the feds for harboring members of the terrorist symbionese liberation Army (sla).
Patty Hearst was not a member of the symbionese liberation army, she was a victim of it–they kidnapped and gang-raped her many times, and after breaking down her person via weeks of psycho-terror, forced her to join with them in a bank robbery.
Cecil Williams was also a terrorist.
https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2014/12/domestic-terrorism-nation-of-islam-and.html
Prominent attorney Michael Armstrong, who had been counsel to the early 1970s Knapp Commission (Serpico) hearings, and who prepared a massive report on the Central Park Jogger case for the NYPD, spent app. seven hours being interviewed for the Burns Gang’s “documentary” (the Central Park Five) only to have them refuse to use any of his material, because it contradicted the racial fairly tale they were telling. In 2014, he gave me a 90-minute interview in which he said the ending of the Burns documentary,
“… was like watching a movie about the Holocaust, and have some guy come on at the end in a Nazi uniform, and say it didn’t happen.”
That is in The Nation article:
The above is the drivel you could expect from Nation magazine.
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About this time, in a Sport magazine article, Walton was quoted as saying something like, “A black guy would be entitled to walk up behind me and shoot me or any white person dead.”
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Bill Walton Was Once a Trailblazing Radical
The basketball great is now better known for his tie-dyed shirts and enthusiastic sports commentary, but in the 1970s, he was a polarizing anti-government activist.
DAVE ZIRIN and FRANK GURIDY
SEPTEMBER 6, 2023
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After his arrest at UCLA, he told sportswriter Billy Libby, “The Blacks have gotten a raw deal for a long time. A lot of my teammates are Black, and I really admire the way they’ve risen above their raw deal. They’re my friends and I feel for them. I know I’ve gotten twice as much as I deserve because I’m white.” He also told the startled sportswriter: “If a Black man gunned me down right now, I’d figure it was all right because of what whites have done to Blacks.”
I remember it from a 1974 Sport article by Pete Axthelm (OJ’s Boswell by the way). So it is was in the Nation article as well. Several black NBA players were unimpressed by the remark.
This got some public attention. Walton’s spouting off on public affairs was not taken seriously, a Dumb Jock as I wrote previously.
By the way, I thought his performance in the 1973 NCAA finals was the best I’d ever seen by a college basketball player.
The above is the drivel you could expect from Nation magazine.
Walton was ripped in the press for attacking American capitalism after signing a multi-million contract to play pro basketball.
About this time, in a Sport magazine article, Walton was quoted as saying something like, “A black guy would be entitled to walk up behind me and shoot me or any white person dead.” This was about the time the Zebra murders had been uncovered. It’s likely Walton was expressing approval. This incident is forgotten.
Walton was a prime example of the Dumb Jock.
That is in The Nation article:
The above is the drivel you could expect from Nation magazine.
[...]
About this time, in a Sport magazine article, Walton was quoted as saying something like, “A black guy would be entitled to walk up behind me and shoot me or any white person dead.”
Replies: @David In TN
Bill Walton Was Once a Trailblazing Radical
The basketball great is now better known for his tie-dyed shirts and enthusiastic sports commentary, but in the 1970s, he was a polarizing anti-government activist.
DAVE ZIRIN and FRANK GURIDY
SEPTEMBER 6, 2023
[...]
After his arrest at UCLA, he told sportswriter Billy Libby, “The Blacks have gotten a raw deal for a long time. A lot of my teammates are Black, and I really admire the way they’ve risen above their raw deal. They’re my friends and I feel for them. I know I’ve gotten twice as much as I deserve because I’m white.” He also told the startled sportswriter: “If a Black man gunned me down right now, I’d figure it was all right because of what whites have done to Blacks.”
Darryl Hickman’s best-known scene was in Leave Her to Heaven when Gene Tierney took him out on a lake and icily watched him drown.
Hickman played a crooked cop called “Smiley” in Sharky’s Machine. Burt Reynolds as Sharky kills him when Smiley thinks he has the drop on Sharky. .
Yes, it is shared blame. That much is clear. And yes we can reason, but we grow up slowly. Many of us don't know better until it's too late. That's the real issue here. It takes generations to rebuild all that can be destroyed by one tragedy.
I disagree. It’s not that it’s the women’s fault or the men’s fault, but that the blame is to be shared. While I agree that the society’s male-female relationships have been subject to enormous distorting effects from the larger culture, that does not remove the individual agency. We are not animals. We have the power to reason, to endure, to anticipate future consequences of our present actions, and to overcome our animal instinct.
The sexual immorality can be forgiven. Not to trivialize it, but it isn't the worst sin. What really kills things is the sense of pride. The idea that others should serve "me." This is what has taken hold in people's hearts. A chaste woman who feels that she is owed is worse by far than a formerly unchaste woman who sinned out of youthful folly but otherwise is a selfless person.
I always find it both amusing and distressing that many young men today bemoan their female peers as “whores” and “sluts” all the while they themselves seek easy sexual gratification. There are still women who are virtuous and loyal. But such women have to be earned by likewise virtue and sacrifice from the men.
Right. It's an inversion of the commandment. You don't demand that others do things for you, but rather "love [them] as yourself."
The problem with today’s (young) male-female relationship is that it’s always “You sacrifice first.”
Young (and not so young) men will take sex when it's on offer. I don't think that can be changed. Rather, women should know that it isn't merely a transactional, but rather more contractual affair. Men will get the picture and adjust their strategy accordingly.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Jack D
In more prosaic terms, it means men should seek women who are chaste and honorably court them over time and ascertain their goodness, instead of seeking the fastest way to sex.
The historical situation was women also had sexual urges but that due to the risk of pregnancy having sex was a much greater risk for a female than for a man. However, birth control has completely changed this so nowadays many young women behave just like men – they have sexual itches and they scratch them. In the long term this is not good for women for many reasons but taking pregnancy out of the equation makes the risks and benefits of sex for young men and women more equal. Appeals to religious morality or whatever are all well and good but they don’t drive behavior in the way that the risk of pregnancy once did.
Relatively speaking I think the risk was about the same as it is today, and at least in medieval society women were acknowledged as being at least as lusty as men. Chaucer had great fun with this.
The historical situation was women also had sexual urges but that due to the risk of pregnancy having sex was a much greater risk for a female than for a man.
https://twitter.com/mouvement33/status/1778566905881829792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Allegedly, the University of Southern California paid off the families of 2 blonde white girls, who had been battered by OJ Simpson.
I’ve been waiting 29 years to tell this story about OJ and his days at USC. Now that he’s dead (may he burn in hell) I have a story that I signed an NDA for that is no longer valid. I was a junior at USC working in Topping Student Center on campus in 1995. I was an administrative assistant to the President of Student Affairs that semester in the work/study program.
In early 1995, Robert Shapiro and Robert Kardashian (USC Alumni) walked up to my desk and said they had an appt with my boss. I was studying to be a criminal defense lawyer with a dual major in PoliSci and International Relations so I knew who they were. The meeting lasted about 30 mins.
After they left I looked at my boss like wtf was that all about!? He walked me outside and we sat by the old sprawling big tree outside Topping and my boss lit a cigarette for the first time in years and told me I had to sign an NDA because I could confirm OJ’s lawyers were there for a meeting. Then he told me what the meeting was about.
Before OJ could graduate from USC, the university paid off two families of two blonde white girls that he had dated and battered. They had both gone to the LAPD to report it. One claimed he also sexually assaulted her in their relationship. The school had a vested interest in OJ going far in football and protected him at all costs. OJ had been in custody for 6 months and lawyers were in the discovery process for the trial and OJ’s friend Robert Kardashian, who knew OJ from also being a student at USC, thought it would be best if those stories never saw the light of day. So a large check was written, given to my boss, and they left. I’ll never forget holding that check.
Now, did you hear about this before now? Nope. That’s how much power money enables.
After he was acquitted I changed my major to Philosophy/Psychology double major. I understood that I could harm society more than not if I pursued law. This is also why I abhor the Kardashians. They’re rich thugs. Nothing more. #OJISDEAD
‘Racism’ is on of those words that started out meaning something specific, gained power because of that specific meaning, and was then expanded in definition so that lazy people could win arguments using the power of the word….like ‘genocide’, which now apparently means ‘losing a war you started’
"Zionist" is just a code word for Israeli/Jew. It's not a matter of choice in any meaningful sense. You could "choose" to renounce your religion and citizenship also but most people wouldn't.
People choose to be Zionists;
The N. Vietnamese called the S. Vietnamese army “the puppet troops.” This while accepting all the arms, equipment, etc. they could from the Russians.
Illegal immigration is an issue because the current administration has erased the Southern border in order to use illegals as a vote farm.
Tonight, Friday May 17, at 11:30 P.M. ET, TCM features The Murder of Mary Phagan. It was originally a 1988 TV miniseries four hours long.
A black janitor at a Atlanta pencil factory in 1913 raped a murdered a White girl. He managed to blame his Jewish boss, Leo Frank.
Frank was convicted by the testimony of the black janitor, Jim Conley. When his sentenced was commuted to Life, Georgia citizens broke into a prison farm, kidnapped Frank and lynched him.
The film and statement by an eyewitness in the 1980s show Conley to be guilty and Frank innocent.
What you're spouting is absurd propaganda and I'm shocked that anyone believes such nonsense. Do you believe everything else you see on TeeVee?
A black janitor at a Atlanta pencil factory in 1913 raped a murdered a White girl. He managed to blame his Jewish boss, Leo Frank.
Frank was convicted by the testimony of the black janitor, Jim Conley. When his sentenced was commuted to Life, Georgia citizens broke into a prison farm, kidnapped Frank and lynched him.
The film and statement by an eyewitness in the 1980s show Conley to be guilty and Frank innocent.
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Taking a broader overview, the theory advanced by Frank’s legion of posthumous advocates seems to defy rationality. These journalists and scholars uniformly argue that Conley, a semi-literate black menial, had brutally raped and murdered a young white girl, and the legal authorities soon became aware of this fact, but conspired to set him free by supporting a complex and risky scheme to instead frame an innocent white businessman. Can we really believe that the police officials and prosecutors of a city in the Old South would have violated their oath of office in order to knowingly protect a black rapist and killer from legal punishment and thereby turn him loose upon their city streets, presumably to prey on future young white girls? This implausible reconstruction is particularly bizarre in that nearly all its advocates across the decades have been the staunchest of Jewish liberals, who have endlessly condemned the horrific racism of the Southern authorities of that era, but then unaccountably chose to make a special exception in this one particular case.
She’s going to appeal, and at least according to the legal analysts around here, she has very good odds of getting this knocked out.
The Russians didn’t bomb German strategic targets. The British did what they called “area bombing.” The Americans bombed German factories, oil production, etc. American fighter planes broke the back of the Luftwaffe.
The Russians hate to admit to any deficiencies. Russian fighter pilots were the main pilots of Mig-15s during the Korean War. A Russian author denied the Americans won the air battles in Korea and Russian pilots claimed to have shot down 800 American Sabres.
Historian Kenneth P. Werrell in his 2005 book, Sabres over Mig Alley, wrote that about 100 American F-86 Sabres were lost in air combat.
Russian historiography on WW II claims the Luftwaffe aces were afraid to fight Russian fighter planes.
“…we could in short order be a vast country without a single honest judge.”
Or an honest prosecutor.
This is a very polite way of saying that fundamental Constitutional norms and universal human rights were undermined and ignored in an outrageous way, which stained America's reputation and made it more difficult for us to have any moral standing against tyrants.
There were lots of deficiencies in the Southern way of life.
A black male could vote in Tennessee after the Civil War. He couldn’t in some other Southern states but he could in Tennessee.
In Memphis, a political boss named Ed Crump supposedly “controlled” the black vote, but this state of affairs went on in the North as well.
And not just for the black vote.
In Memphis, a political boss named Ed Crump supposedly “controlled” the black vote, but this state of affairs went on in the North as well.
A black male could vote in Tennessee before the War of 1812, as long as he was a free black male. The first constitution had a provision saying no militiaman could be deprived of his vote.Some local leaders didn't like this. Since it is much easier to change a statute than a constitution, they lobbied for, and got, a new law relieving free black men from compulsory militia duty. Problem solved!Around the same time, free blacks and unmarried women with property could vote in New Jersey. Recent research, some sponsored by the DAR, has pulled up the names of women who did, and perhaps black men as well. But so far, no black women. Such a woman would have had to have been free, single or widowed, and in possession of £50 of property. (The figure when the law was written, though by early statehood they were using dollars.) Good luck finding a late-18th-century Oprah! I'm not sure if slaves counted toward that total. A museum illustrated their exhibition on the subject with mannequins of two white women and one black woman. A commenter on an article about the exhibit asked, half-seriously, if the black woman was there to serve as proof of one of the other women's property ownership.
A black male could vote in Tennessee after the Civil War.
Please show me an example of someone denying men have a higher crime rate than women.
I recall Jan Stephenson doing the Marilyn Monroe pose with the wind blowing her skirt over her hips.
I looked at the box score. The Oakland A’s led 2-0 going into the bottom of the ninth. Don Buford and Merv Rettenmund singled. Frank Robinson came up and hit a three-run HR to give the Orioles the win 3-2.
Roman Gabriel just left us at age 83.
As this thread continues the stupidity of those Alden calls The Men of Unz comes out.
Fine mini series? That pile of crap featuring Cuba Gooding Jr, with its melodramatic pacing, ugly cinematography and simplified storyline? Steve, for all your genteel appreciation of art, beauty and such, you have some pretty limited critical abilities in this area. For more, see Anthony Cumia’s takedown:
Nonsensical stupidity.
As I’ve written previously, there is no limit to the excuses for black on White murders. Dear was one of those doing it for OJ Simpson.
Don’t know about the media in general, but a local NBC affiliate went out of its way to defame Zimmerman and poison the jury pool. An indicator of the asininity of our laws on defamation is that doctoring an audio tape to entirely alter the gist of a man’s statements is not defamatory and Joe Blow off the streets of Orlando is defined as a ‘public figure’.
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What’s interesting about Zimmerman is what it revealed about street-level Democrats. I was at one time a participant in comment boards at a blog called League of Ordinary Gentlemen. There were a few dissenters, but it was a liberal forum. Their baseline assumption was that Martin had a franchise to beat up any white man who irritated him. (They also imputed all sorts of motives to Zimmerman of which there was simply no evidence). They fancied that Zimmerman was getting above his station by (1) being suspicious of Martin, (2) keeping an eye on Martin, and (3) defending himself when he was attacked by Martin. NB, Jerilyn Merritt with 40 years under her belt as a criminal defense attorney offered that the trial prosecutor (one Bernardo de la Rionda) manifested a lack of professionalism and ethics that was outside her experience. Street-level Democrats were content with that behavior.
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(A minor thing it revealed is that it isn’t difficult to find soi-disant conservative opinion journalists who are easily scammed and then double-down on what they wrote originally, even when their thesis was wholly discredited. Exhibit A was Robert ver Bruggen of National Review).
It's still around, with a new name of Ordinary Times. They have chased away any conservative, though, with Jaybird being the lone libertarian voice of dissent. It's sad how quickly Alex Whitlock (Trumwill) has run that blog into the ground. He and Burt Likko both voted for George W. Bush twice but have now renounced their membership in the Republican Party. And much like a recent convert tries to be more Catholic than the Pope, they both love to show off their new liberal bona fides.
I was at one time a participant in comment boards at a blog called League of Ordinary Gentlemen. There were a few dissenters, but it was a liberal forum.
In the long run, there is nothing more expensive than cheap labor.
Yes.
What was OJ’s motive. Nicole was cheating on him?
O.J. believed she was sleeping with Goldman. Whether Goldman was or not is up for determination, but very likely yes. He was just some poor random waiter she'd met just a short time before while he served her, and yet within a few weeks Nicole was letting Goldman borrow her Ferrari (!)-- not something you do for someone who's just a friend, especially a recent one. And Goldman was coming over late at night on foot in LA to "meet" with Nicole. It all adds up to him being a boytoy lover to distract her from her miserable ex husband. Plus Nicole was 35, past her prime, saddled with a mixed-race kids and an abusive black ex, while Goldman was a young 25 wannabe hotshot mover and shaker with a tattoo (much rarer at the time) and a small resume of being on a show called "Studs" where he was one of the studs. Nicole was desperate for distraction and to recreate her youth with the kind of guy she would have gotten with had she not met OJ at 18. It seems clear that Goldman gave Nicole the attention she craved from a white guy (ok, Jewish) she probably would've gotten with had she not been a homewrecker with OJ and now most white guys wouldn't take her due to her racial traitorousness and her age. And Goldman, the broke waiter, targeted a lonely divorcee, banged her out, and sought to use her to get his career moving. Had they not been killed, Nicole probably would have ended up investing in the restaurant Goldman was planning to launch or else gotten him an agent. Goldman walking over instead of driving was probably something Nicole and he came up with because of OJ's jealousy. No car in the driveway, less suspicion. Typical rich woman story: older broken divorcee, desperate for validation that she's still got it, and younger stud hustler looking for sex and a boost up. See also Sunset Boulevard. The only other explanation was that Goldman was gay and was Nicole's new gay bff. Most gays are extremely manipulative and would've been primed to find this lonely woman in need to of comforting words and girl talk, and she would have rewarded him with the use of her car and access to her home. But I've never heard anything said of him being gay, not even for pay, not even a rumor. So I think this second theory is a distant second. But even if he was gay, OJ just went ape on them both because OJ thought he was straight and banging his old lady. P.S. It's a testament to the defense attorneys that no one really remembers the theory about OJ's motivation. by turning the trial into a circus they made the audience forget about very basic questions/things, and the victims themselves. See also Chicago.Replies: @Frau Katze, @LondonBob, @David In TN, @Wokechoke
With Goldman, or was he just an innocent bystander.
Goldman didn’t “walk over” to Nicole’s place. He drove there with a car borrowed from a girl he was dating.
The best book on the subject is “Triumph of Justice,” by Daniel Petrocelli, who was the attorney for the Goldman’s in the Wrongful Death Civil trial.
It is probable that Simpson exploded in anger when he saw Goldman come to the front gate and Nicole come out to greet him. And retrieve the glasses.
Right. This wasn’t about a “dream team” of lawyers. The prosecution lost this case by self-inflicted mistakes, like allowing a nine-black jury and that ridiculous glove situation. Public defenders right out of law school would have won the case.
Uh, yeah....."mistakes". Yeah, that's the ticket...... LOL.
"The prosecution lost this case by self-inflicted mistakes"
The Browns were living off of OJ’s largesse. Her father managed a Hertz distributorship and her mother worked for a business OJ had an interest in. A cousin of Nicole’s (her mother’s German-born nephew) managed a fast food place OJ owned.
When Nicole divorced OJ after the repeated beatings, he cut her relatives off. Nicole’s parents told her to “get back together.” She went back to him, broke off again, finally he killed her.
Nicole’s father surprised the prosecution team by his seeming indifference to what happened to Nicole, manifested by his reluctance to give information to the prosecution.
Steven Brill offered in a post-mortem that Marcia Clark was wretched as a trial prosecutor and seemed to have no sense about how much attention to give each witness. It appears that the LAPD’s procedural sloppiness gave the jurors the excuse to do what they wanted to do anyway.
More about Teresa Carpenter who wrote that article.
The private O.J.? Well, that was apparently a different story. The USC professor mentioned earlier recalls an episode that occurred shortly after O.J. left the school. At a faculty party, surrounded by fellow academics, he joked, “The place must be falling apart without O.J.” There were no smiles. O.J. Simpson, he was told, had beaten up three young women—two Asians and a “blond cheerleader type.” Moreover, the school paid each of the victims’ families the sum of $525,000 to keep the affair under wraps. (A USC spokesman maintains, “To the best of our knowledge, there’s no truth to it at all.”)
There was a story that I heard from two separate sources about a young guy-a USC student, working his way through school there in the mid 80s, 7-8 years before the murders.
The 50th anniversary of the Heisman Trophy (college football player of the year) was happening, and there was a major fundraiser for a big banquet honoring the four USC winners, including OJ.
He, along with a few other guys, was given a list of major donors, wealthy and influential alums, even celebrity USC fans. Each of the students were “assigned” the name of one of the four USC Heisman winners to fundraise on behalf of with these wealthy folks.
This guy was assigned to fundraise on behalf of OJ’s name. He was very happy. The greatest USC player in history-a man who was widely beloved by the public. He was going to raise big bucks. But it didn’t work out that way. Several alums hung up in his ear. Finally someone in the department clued him in.
When OJ was at USC, there were a few girls that OJ beat pretty badly. One needed pretty serious dental work. Several others were essentially forced into sex with him. There were other incidents of illegal/immoral conduct, too. These powerful alums had to fix it all behind the scenes-calling in favors, paying people off, even leaning on an outraged dad or two from trying to go public.
They did it, but it left a pretty bad taste in their mouths about OJ, and they wanted as little to do with him as possible afterwards.
“What was the motive?”
The stupid question that is asked by people wanting to excuse black on White murders.
More about Teresa Carpenter who wrote that article.
The private O.J.? Well, that was apparently a different story. The USC professor mentioned earlier recalls an episode that occurred shortly after O.J. left the school. At a faculty party, surrounded by fellow academics, he joked, “The place must be falling apart without O.J.” There were no smiles. O.J. Simpson, he was told, had beaten up three young women—two Asians and a “blond cheerleader type.” Moreover, the school paid each of the victims’ families the sum of $525,000 to keep the affair under wraps. (A USC spokesman maintains, “To the best of our knowledge, there’s no truth to it at all.”)
That Esquire article is where I read about Simpson beating up a girl while at USC.
But did the media have anything intelligent or honest to say about the crime or the trial? I don't recall that they did.Replies: @David In TN
"I’m not sure that there has ever been, for anyone now alive, a media circus quite like the OJ Simpson case."
“But did the media have anything intelligent or honest to say about the crime or the trial? I don’t recall that they did.”
No they did not, to put it mildly. From the start the MSM picked away at the prosecution and fawned over Cochran. They eagerly played up Fuhrman and made him the villain.
Jeffrey Toobin wrote that out of fear of being called “racist,” he and his colleagues never reported that the evidence against Simpson “was simply overwhelming.”
Many columnists gloated over the acquittal. Richard Cohen of the Washington Post was the main example.
WaPo's RiCo was also the guy who was banging Peter Jennings' wife. I'm already American but that's yet another reason I'm Team People on TV rather than Team People in the Newspaper.
Many columnists gloated over the acquittal. Richard Cohen of the Washington Post was the main example.
Replies: @anonymous, @International Jew, @David In TN
I've been waiting 29 years to tell this story about OJ and his days at USC. Now that he's dead (may he burn in hell) I have a story that I signed an NDA for that is no longer valid. I was a junior at USC working in Topping Student Center on campus in 1995. I was an administrative assistant to the President of Student Affairs that semester in the work/study program.
In early 1995, Robert Shapiro and Robert Kardashian (USC Alumni) walked up to my desk and said they had an appt with my boss. I was studying to be a criminal defense lawyer with a dual major in PoliSci and International Relations so I knew who they were. The meeting lasted about 30 mins.
After they left I looked at my boss like wtf was that all about!? He walked me outside and we sat by the old sprawling big tree outside Topping and my boss lit a cigarette for the first time in years and told me I had to sign an NDA because I could confirm OJ's lawyers were there for a meeting. Then he told me what the meeting was about.
Before OJ could graduate from USC, the university paid off two families of two blonde white girls that he had dated and battered. They had both gone to the LAPD to report it. One claimed he also sexually assaulted her in their relationship. The school had a vested interest in OJ going far in football and protected him at all costs. OJ had been in custody for 6 months and lawyers were in the discovery process for the trial and OJ's friend Robert Kardashian, who knew OJ from also being a student at USC, thought it would be best if those stories never saw the light of day. So a large check was written, given to my boss, and they left. I'll never forget holding that check.
Now, did you hear about this before now? Nope. That's how much power money enables.
After he was acquitted I changed my major to Philosophy/Psychology double major. I understood that I could harm society more than not if I pursued law. This is also why I abhor the Kardashians. They're rich thugs. Nothing more. #OJISDEAD
I’ve seen the story about OJ Simpson beating up White girls when at USC and the administration paying off the families. One reason for USC keeping this secret with payoffs was for recruiting in the future.
The idea was to use the Legend of OJ Simpson to recruit black players as what they could be plus what a great place USC was for the black athlete.
However, you need more detail for the beatings of White girls by OJ and the payoffs to be proven.
A lot of them don’t want to “understand what we’re dealing with.”
Thanks for the mention, Ace. I also wholeheartedly concur with your judgment that “Vandyke” was Farrakhan. I believe that this was all a Farrakhan operation.
Of course, I have written more about the Zebra Killings and other NOI slaughters of Whites than any other writer, save for Clark Howard. I have devoted a blog, The Zebra Project, to the Nation of Islam. Among other matters, we scooped the msm on the deaths of J.C.X. Simon and Manuel Moore, and on the denial of parole to Larry Craig Green and Jessie Lee Cooks.
“The Zebra Murders: The First Victims?”
“Lest We Forget: Remembering the Zebra Victims”
“Domestic Terrorism: The Nation of Islam and the Zebra Murders”
https://thezebraproject.blogspot.com/2006/12/
“Updated List of Nation of Islam Attacks on Whites”
https://thezebraproject.blogspot.com/2020/08/updated-list-of-nation-of-islam-attacks.html
I read years ago that when the Soviet Union held an election in the 1930s, Pravda announced that “Joseph Stalin received 111% of the vote.”
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/03/05/us/elections/results-california-primary.html
This seems stuck at 58%. I’m guessing that CA 2024 is about as good at vote counting as it is at railroad building. When you visit a shitty 3rd world country (which is what we are becoming) then nothing works well. This doesn’t require any chicanery, just general incompetence.
Gaffigan played Ted Kennedy’s friend former Massachusetts U.S. Attorney Paul Markham in the Chappaquiddick movie.
It took place on a bus leaving, I think, Shea Stadium. Some Dodger players who disliked Garvey actually respected him more for punching Sutton, who wasn’t very popular either.
Dan Jenkins was the SI writer for college football for some 15 years. In 1974 Jenkins switched to pro football. He was also SI’s Golf writer for decades. I don’t recall Jenkins writing about baseball.
As I referenced in another comment, without his woman problems Garvey might have won a Senate seat in 1994.
Yeah, back in the day, I remember he was married to some all-American blonde, and they were sort of the annoyingly picture perfect couple. Then some years later there was a bunch of tabloid style drama--she was screwing around, he was screwed around. Then later he's knocked up some girl, then another girl. His romantic life was getting more messy then Donald Trump's was--even in Jean Carroll's fantasies.
It is worth noting that if not for his extra-marital affairs, Garvey probably would have already been elected to some sort of political office.
It was around 1989 when Steve Garvey’s out of wedlock pregnant lady friends became news. Garvey was mocked in tabloids and the MSM. If not for that, Garvey might have made a Senate race in 1994 and might have won.
Chambers Road runs east-west through near north St. Louis County, and intersects West Florissant Avenue about a half mile north of the since 2014 world famous Fergaza Strip. It’s Bell Curve City pretty much for its whole distance.
Now, as for this story, detaching it from the native city imperative, it and all the others like it are the reason why geofencing (i.e. for the purpose of limiting automobile speed) will happen. Sure, nearly everyone opposes the idea, now. But that’s the perverse reason why it is inevitable. It’s because those who want geofencing to happen would rather people know about it and hate it rather than not know about it all. Because love and hate are synonyms, indifference is the antonym of both. Hate has been instantly turned into love before now, and vice versa.
With every such incident like this one, another percent of people will instantly switch from hating geofencing to loving it and demanding it.
This is also why Remigration of Martin Sellner lore is inevitable.
Note: A rather similar incident to this one, in Berlin, doing 100 in a 30 zone (km/h) killing a teacher and her daughter, is what got the media here to start yammering about geofencing. I knew then what was up and how it would go down.
Interesting to see how that was in the media for only a few days with little followup. Any idea how it played out?
Note: A rather similar incident to this one, in Berlin, doing 100 in a 30 zone (km/h) killing a teacher and her daughter, is what got the media here to start yammering about geofencing. I knew then what was up and how it would go down.
It’s normal for black suspects to talk even after being helpfully advised they don’t have to say anything, but they do anyway. They think they can talk their way out of prison but usually talk their way into prison.