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The Truth Will Set You Free | Trump Tells New York Times Civil Rights Led to White People Being ‘Very Badly Treated’

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Rich says:
January 15, 2026 at 2:16 pm GMT
@littlereddot
@Rich

Even with the release of the video showing the agent being struck by the suv,

Agent struck by a 5000 pound SUV, and he is still standing, not flung to the ground, and is somehow and steady and composed enough to shoot 3 rounds into the woman?

even with the video showing her staring directly at the agent she hit,

Not sure I understand you.
Was she staring at the agent with the bullets in her?
Or did she stare at the agent before she allegedly hit him?
And these people are eligible to vote and sit on juries. No wonder everything just keeps getting worse in this country.

In this I agree with you.
Only my definition of "these people" is the opposite of yours.
Replies: @Rich
You, sir, are an example of what I was writing. The video is available, showing him get struck by the suv, and you still argue he wasn’t hit. Your mind can’t accept reality. Nothing can be done for you. Good luck in your future endeavors.

• Replies: @littlereddot
@Rich
You sir, are an example of someone seeing what he wants to see. You make it out that the Agent was standing in front of the SUV and that she meant to run him over.
In your quoted video of #345
At the 3:15 mark, he is clearly not thrown to the ground by any impact and walks away steadily after discharging his firearm. If there was any impact at all it was glancing.
At the 7:01 mark, the car is seen moving with him on the side of the vehicle. If he were on the front of the vehicle as you allege, he would have be RUN OVER. If there was any impact at all, it was glancing. He was not even spun around.
It is clear she wanted to escape the ICE agents by turning right. If she wanted to run over the ICE agents she would have turned left or gone straight. But she turned right.
The photos Muh Muh attached showed clearly only one shot was in the very edge of the front windshield. The other shots were into the side window.
It is clear the ICE agent did not fear for his life. He was already on the side of the car when he opened fire.
It is clear that the woman was shot for not showing due obedience and trying to escape.
https://i.cbc.ca/ais/caf0c9cb-cbcc-47bf-81ac-5b73d22f0f39,1767899104677/full/max/0/default.jpg
, @Been_there_done_that
@Rich

"The video is available, showing him get struck by the suv..."

I looked for – but could not find – such a video, though I did see a video showing both shoes of the agent standing outside the path of the vehicle before he fired his first shot, while the front tires were positioned at an angle to continue steering the vehicle away from him at slow speed. If you are so confident about your claim then you ought to present a link to it here and point out at exactly which time in the video he is purportedly being struck.
Rich says:
January 15, 2026 at 1:01 pm GMT • 100 Words
Over 500 comments and the people who thought the agent shot her from the side, through the driver’s side window still believe that. Even with the release of the video showing the agent being struck by the suv, even with the video showing her staring directly at the agent she hit, even with photos available showing the bullet hole in the front windshield. It’s crazy. And these people are eligible to vote and sit on juries. No wonder everything just keeps getting worse in this country. Crazy.

• Replies: @littlereddot
@Rich

Even with the release of the video showing the agent being struck by the suv,

Agent struck by a 5000 pound SUV, and he is still standing, not flung to the ground, and is somehow and steady and composed enough to shoot 3 rounds into the woman?

even with the video showing her staring directly at the agent she hit,

Not sure I understand you.
Was she staring at the agent with the bullets in her?
Or did she stare at the agent before she allegedly hit him?
And these people are eligible to vote and sit on juries. No wonder everything just keeps getting worse in this country.

In this I agree with you.
Only my definition of "these people" is the opposite of yours.
Replies: @Rich
littlereddot says:
January 15, 2026 at 2:36 am GMT • 100 Words
@Rich
@littlereddot
Look, the video shows him being struck by the car. If that's not enough for you guys, nothing is. You just want, or need, to believe that this woman was killed in cold blood. I'm sure you were all-in on hands up, knee on neck, out getting skittles, too. If you can't see the agent getting hit in the video, there's just nothing else to argue about. You live in an alternate reality.
Replies: @Rurik, @littlereddot, @Joe Levantine

Look, the video shows him being struck by the car.

LOL.

A friend of mine was convicted of assault on a police officer some years back. Do you know what she did?

She was stopped by a police woman for a minor violation like not wearing a seat belt. After being handed a written citation, my friend crushed the citation and threw it out the window, while muttering something like “You guys have nothing better to do. Go catch some speeding car or some robbers, but instead you catch an old lady for not wearing a seatbelt”. Maybe the balled up citation touched the police woman. But she in court she testified that the ball of paper hit her and caused her injury.

It is clear that the only thing damaged in the encounter was the policewoman’s ego for not being shown sufficient deference.

My friend was lucky she was stopped by ICE agents. She would have been shot for sure.

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• Thanks: muh muh, Same old same old
• Replies: @Same old same old
@littlereddot
I have had my own encounters with the badged thugs roaming our streets. I suppose it is beyond the typical maggot that most people don't want to live in a country where they have to kiss the asses of public servants or risk being shot in the face.

Why were we supposed to be better than China or the USSR again?

Paul Kersey • January 12, 2026 • 28 Comments • Reply

When a mic drop moment is decades in the making. President George W. Bush was called a racist and a fascist, even likening Kanye West to saying, "George W. Bush doesn't like black people," as the lowest moment of his presidency. Not 9/11. Not thousands of American GI deaths in the Global War on Terrorism....

Rich says:
January 14, 2026 at 7:51 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Exile in Paradise
@Rich
Trump does not stand for anyone or anything but himself.
He does nothing for "White Folks" but tell them the platitudes they want to hear so that they will fall in line with the rest of his Judeophiliac agenda. Wake up. You cannot separate these things.
Really---when will you people realize that the multiracial so called diversity culture that took over the United States beginning many decades ago was zealously promoted and funded and driven down the throats of media and academia by the Jews --who, by the way, despise you?
Replies: @Rich, @ServesyouallWhite
I’m not sure you’re right. Trump isn’t a White nationalist, he’s more of a middle of the road color blind republican. The point is he isn’t hostile to Whites. He actually appears to like White folks and their history. In order to be a democrat, you have to hate Whites and be openly hostile to them. That’s the difference. Trump isn’t George Wallace, he isn’t even Barry Goldwater, but he’s still better, on the race issue, than every single elected democrat.

• Agree: Augustus, Blanc de Chine
Johnny LeBlanc says:
January 14, 2026 at 5:54 am GMT
@Rich
Trump stands up for White folks, and a bunch of Whites on this site keep trying to rip him apart because of Israel and the anti-White lesbian who was shot trying to run over a White ICE agent. Wake up, Whitey, you either stand together or get ripped apart by the angry mud people.
Replies: @Johnny LeBlanc, @Exile in Paradise
This.

Though Republicans just love Israel, the alternative is the shit stain and faggot worshipping left, who not only want to deny Whites opportunity, they want to disenfranchise, disposses, and kill us.

Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

• Agree: Rich

The Trump Doctrine: "They Have It. We Want It. We Take It."

The Trump Doctrine: "They Have It. We Want It. We Take It."

Rich says:
January 14, 2026 at 6:40 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Rurik
@Rich

If you can’t see the agent getting hit in the video, there’s just nothing else to argue about. You live in an alternate reality.

you're right about the skittles and the knee-jerk sympathies of the ((media))

and yes, I can see where he was struck by the vehicle, but I'll give you my take on that, fwiw.

He could see that the other agent was ordering the provocateur out of her vehicle. He understood, as we all do, that in situations like that, there is the possibility that the person may try to gun the gas, and flee the scene, and so I think he positioned himself at the front of her SUV, to block her from leaving, but he did so in such a way that he could both, shoot her, if she tried to leave, but also in such a way as to allow himself to move out of the way, if she continued to drive away.

Because he was at the corner of her vehicle, and not directly in front of it, when she gunned the gas, I don't think he was in imminent danger, I suspect his position was deliberate and calculated to give him a pretext for deadly force, while also allowing him to avoid serious injury to himself.

That, fwiw, it how it all looks to me.

If so, I suppose the shooting was not justified, if I'm right about what happened. But then I have no way of knowing if that's what he was doing, or what was going through his mind.

But this issue is far, far wider than just that person's death.

This country is at war. We saw that with the BLM rioters, burning and looting and murdering, to the indifference of our nation's highest law enforcement, and support of the media, ('mostly peaceful protests, blah, blah).

In a way, this shooting is like Kyle Rittenhouse, with the people who were supporting Kyle, being the people who now support the ICE agent, because these are the 'law and order' people, who don't approve of burning and looting, just as now they don't approve of a lawless, open border.

Vs. those who supported the BLM rioters, and now support the ICE protesters, because this country is 'racist', blah, blah.. and so the BLM rioters were the good guys, and the ICE protesters are the good guys, and when they block vehicles, they're doing good. But if an ICE agent blocks a vehicle, he's bad.

There are very few people who are utterly objective about what happened. It's all relative, and all depends on their respective perspectives, and sympathies.
Replies: @Rich
He’s hit by the car. That’s it. Whether he’s on the left, right or in the middle. First, all the lefties said he wasn’t hit. Now that video evidence shows he was hit, it was “only” by the front corner of the car?. This would be funny if it wasn’t so sad. You actually think he tried to get hit by the car to justify firing his weapon? Really?

I’m well acquainted with people who’ve been mistreated by law enforcement. I don’t just jump on the bandwagon. But this is open and shut.
Rich says:
January 14, 2026 at 5:38 pm GMT
@Joe Levantine
@Rich
I did see the video from different angles posted in X. The ICE officer was not within the line of the car.

The facts on the ground should be well debated in a court of law once all evidences are exposed.

“Do you still believe Chauvin was leaning on Floyd’s neck?”

From a video that I watched, it looked like Chauvin was totally innocent of all charges against him. The video recorded all the standoff with Floyd, maybe from the helmet camera of one of the policemen involved. But the media had already pronounced Chauvin guilty and the court procedure did not base itself on real evidence. Chauvin’s trial was political.

“ you’re seeing this shooting through ideological lenses.”

I regret to inform you that I do not subscribe to any political ideology. Having lived long enough to see how authorities behave in so many different countries, I found myself with maturity drawn to the side of anarchy. Still I believe in the right of everyone to a fair trial even though the judiciary is by and large corrupt in America.

Read the case of Martin Armstrong with the New York courts and it should be an eye opener.
Replies: @Rich
One last try, comment #452 Punch Brother Punch has a video posted that shows the suv hit the agent. If that doesn’t convince you, nothing will.
Rich says:
January 14, 2026 at 3:07 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Ron Unz
@Rich

There are no “battling videos”. There are several different angles showing the agent in front of the vehicle being struck. It’s disingenuous to claim the proof in front of everyone’s eyes isn’t real. The agent is clearly struck, the hole in the windshield is from the front. Why is there even an argument about this?

Well, I think there are something like 5-6 different videos, all taken from different angles.

The one you highlight appears to show that the car hit the ICE agent, which seems rather implausible since he afterwards showed not the slightest sign of any physical injury. But because of the positioning of the camera, what actually happened is far from clear.

Meanwhile, all the other videos taken from different angles seem to show that the car never touched him.

Naturally, you and all the ignorant Trumpists promote the one apparently misleading video and ignore all the others.

Like I said, I haven't been paying much attention to those details or analyzing the various videos. I'm not all that interested in the topic.

But for those who are, I'd just recommended that they watch some of the different videos and make up their own minds. I think they where included included in those much longer YouTube and Twitter videos that I'd embedded in my article.
Replies: @Rich, @Anonymous
You don’t know me, I’m sure you don’t notice my comments on here, but I’m not a “trumpista”. Trump is too left of center for me, but he is better than every democrat politician in the country. As for the videos, yes, they are different angles. Are you arguing that the video of the agent being hit by the vehicle is a fake? That all the agents that have said he was hit and put it in their reports are lying? I don’t understand it. There’s a video showing him get hit. How is there any argument about this? I don’t get it.

Sedition in Minneapolis

Kevin DeAnna • January 12, 2026 • 52 Comments • Reply

A shooting in Minneapolis has given the Left what it wanted — a martyr. However, it’s not not exactly the most compelling case, as new video evidence shows the shooting was justified. Still, progressives are capitalizing on decades of taxpayer-funded organizational effort to wage what is essentially a low-intensity insurrection against federal law enforcement. For...

ProsecuteGenocide says:
January 14, 2026 at 7:55 am GMT • 200 Words
Was Ruby Ridge justifiable, or Waco? Ashli Babbitt? The J6 reign of terror? Think about when they come for you with lethal rules of engagement.

The woman in Minnesota was shot multiple times because she was engaged in civil disobedience. At no time was she told her choice was to leave, or face arrest. That would be normal escalation.

ICE agents didn’t have authority to arrest her for blocking traffic, and they had no authority to reach in her vehicle.

Under the circumstances, she had every right to put her car in drive and continue on her way.

For the record, the shooter broke several protocols in the DHS rules. It was a bad use of force. He could have killed bystanders with stray bullets, or someone could have been struck by the runaway vehicle. You never place yourself in front of or behind a stopped vehicle which could suddenly move.

Them are the facts.

• Disagree: Rich
• Thanks: Eustace Tilley (not)
• Replies: @JunkyardDog
@ProsecuteGenocide
Renee hit the agent with her car, as the video makes clear. “Them are the facts.” What needs investigation is her supposed wife Becca’s nonstop taunting of the agents and its part in her simultaneously inciting Renee to over-react. The investigation should go back in that relationship, looking for evidence of what other control Becca had over Renee, given Becca’s ordering Renee around at the scene, and given that a few photos of Renee suggest a seriously unstable woman who may have been taking psych meds and who knows what else at the time.
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JunkyardDog says:
January 13, 2026 at 9:35 pm GMT • 200 Words
@TG
Completely missing the point.
In a country of (nearly) 400 million, the police are a necessary evil, and with so many people sometimes bad things happen. When they do, it should be investigated. If the police officer involved behaved badly, then (depending on the severity of the infraction), they should be variously charged with murder or assault, or demoted or disciplined or fired. If the police officer involved behaved correctly, they should be exonerated. But this has nothing at all to do with the laws the police are charged with enforcing.
A large fraction of current US billionaires want open borders in order to drive wages and living standards down for the many, and rents and profits up for the few. Period. So if anything bad happens during the enforcement of our immigration laws, they will viciously try to conflate this with making the enforcement of immigration laws (e.g., laws against foreign invasion) immoral. Let's not fall for this con.
Imagine some group of poor people try to trespass on the private island of a billionaire. Of course, the police will stop that. Suppose that a policeman over-reacts and kills a trespasser in a way that was egregious. OK that's bad. Does that mean that enforcing the laws against trespassing on a billionaire's private island is immoral? Of course not. The issue will never be raised, because the billionaires that run this country want THOSE laws vigorously enforced.
We are told that the laws against illegal immigration cannot be enforced if it involves separating an alleged minor from their alleged parents. Has anyone else noticed that this ONLY applies to illegal immigration? For every other law the police will separate minor children from their parents for as long as required (weeks - months - years) and nobody in power will shed a tear.
Replies: @JunkyardDog
Based on the actions of those billionaires’ Bolshevik ancestors a century ago, the purpose is only secondarily to trick a profit off honest labor, as Spengler put it. What today’s Bolsheviks still want is to punish, infect, exterminate, starve, torture, cheat, chisel, and finally kill off tens of millions of us now that they’ve moved their operations from Russia to the US.

Even many years ago one of their operatives, Bill Ayers, told an undercover FBI agent that the left, which would include today’s neocons (who’re actually Trotskyites), that the left would have to kill at least twenty-five million Americans to achieve success. The invasion of drugs and literally millions of these military age gangbangers and sleeper combatants is part of that plan.

As Ayer’s put it about the North Vietnamese, he didn’t give a shit if they won, only that the US lost, which nicely sums up the attitude of these insurrectionists in Minneapolis who don’t give a shit about Hispanics, only that millions of us die and America is destroyed.

• Thanks: Rich
ThreeCranes says:
January 13, 2026 at 3:21 pm GMT • 200 Words
There seems to be some confusion about what’s in play here.

The dead woman was a member of a protest group whose mission statement focused on disrupting lawful ICE rounding up and deporting criminals who had entered this country illegally.

In honking their horns, parking directly across the street and verbally harassing the officers, the protesters were impeding them and preventing them from performing their duty. This is a crime. When the officers proceeded to arrest one offender, she ignored them and struck an officer with her car. American Law regards an automobile as a deadly weapon. This is a fact that has been established in actual court cases.

Imagine a passenger pushing unto the bridge of a cruise ship. They burst through the door and begin to shout through a bullhorn. They wave placards between the navigator and his chart and compass, dance around the helmsman while bull horning in his face etc. etc.

Now no one would deny that this behavior is unacceptable, this interfering with duly appointed officers who are literally bound by both hoary tradition and sworn oaths to do their jobs to the best of their abilities. There is no wiggle room here, after all, the fate of the passengers is at stake.

I don’t think I need to draw any conclusion, as it’s obvious–except to the libtarded–what the point is.

• Agree: Rich

The Rubicon Crossed – Team Trump’s Nihilistic Anti-values Paradigm

Rich says:
January 14, 2026 at 1:17 pm GMT • 100 Words
@littlereddot
@Rich

How did he get hit by the front of the car and fire through the windshield?

If he got hit by the front of the car, would he still be standing steady enough to fire 3 shots accurately and in quick succession?
Have you ever seen a person struck by a car first hand? I have. The person was 3 feet away from me. The impact flung her onto the windshield, hit her head on the windshield, then rolled off the car. Then lying on the street, she foamed at the mouth for 10 minutes before the ambulance arrived. She died later in hospital.
The ICE agent was certainly not struck by the car. If he did, the momentum from a 5000 pound SUV would have sent him flying. After he got to his feet again, it would have taken him yet more seconds to compose himself enough to shoot off a close 3 shot grouping on the windshield.
Have you ever fired a rifle after physical activity, or urgent physical activity such as this? For example firing the rifle after one runs down 200 metres at the shooting range? One has to force himself to stay steady, compose himself and control his breath so that his breathing doesn't cause his rounds to fly all over the place.
If the ICE agent had really been struck by the car, he would not have fired his shots so soon, and his shots would have been far more erratic than that.
Replies: @Rich, @wojtek
Look, the video shows him being struck by the car. If that’s not enough for you guys, nothing is. You just want, or need, to believe that this woman was killed in cold blood. I’m sure you were all-in on hands up, knee on neck, out getting skittles, too. If you can’t see the agent getting hit in the video, there’s just nothing else to argue about. You live in an alternate reality.

• Replies: @Rurik
@Rich

If you can’t see the agent getting hit in the video, there’s just nothing else to argue about. You live in an alternate reality.

you're right about the skittles and the knee-jerk sympathies of the ((media))

and yes, I can see where he was struck by the vehicle, but I'll give you my take on that, fwiw.

He could see that the other agent was ordering the provocateur out of her vehicle. He understood, as we all do, that in situations like that, there is the possibility that the person may try to gun the gas, and flee the scene, and so I think he positioned himself at the front of her SUV, to block her from leaving, but he did so in such a way that he could both, shoot her, if she tried to leave, but also in such a way as to allow himself to move out of the way, if she continued to drive away.

Because he was at the corner of her vehicle, and not directly in front of it, when she gunned the gas, I don't think he was in imminent danger, I suspect his position was deliberate and calculated to give him a pretext for deadly force, while also allowing him to avoid serious injury to himself.

That, fwiw, it how it all looks to me.

If so, I suppose the shooting was not justified, if I'm right about what happened. But then I have no way of knowing if that's what he was doing, or what was going through his mind.

But this issue is far, far wider than just that person's death.

This country is at war. We saw that with the BLM rioters, burning and looting and murdering, to the indifference of our nation's highest law enforcement, and support of the media, ('mostly peaceful protests, blah, blah).

In a way, this shooting is like Kyle Rittenhouse, with the people who were supporting Kyle, being the people who now support the ICE agent, because these are the 'law and order' people, who don't approve of burning and looting, just as now they don't approve of a lawless, open border.

Vs. those who supported the BLM rioters, and now support the ICE protesters, because this country is 'racist', blah, blah.. and so the BLM rioters were the good guys, and the ICE protesters are the good guys, and when they block vehicles, they're doing good. But if an ICE agent blocks a vehicle, he's bad.

There are very few people who are utterly objective about what happened. It's all relative, and all depends on their respective perspectives, and sympathies.
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, @littlereddot
@Rich

Look, the video shows him being struck by the car.

LOL.
A friend of mine was convicted of assault on a police officer some years back. Do you know what she did?
She was stopped by a police woman for a minor violation like not wearing a seat belt. After being handed a written citation, my friend crushed the citation and threw it out the window, while muttering something like "You guys have nothing better to do. Go catch some speeding car or some robbers, but instead you catch an old lady for not wearing a seatbelt". Maybe the balled up citation touched the police woman. But she in court she testified that the ball of paper hit her and caused her injury.
It is clear that the only thing damaged in the encounter was the policewoman's ego for not being shown sufficient deference.
My friend was lucky she was stopped by ICE agents. She would have been shot for sure.
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, @Joe Levantine
@Rich
“ You live in an alternate reality.”

In the world of AI, we have to accept that we all live in an alternate reality. The comments of littlereddot cast a real shadow of doubt over the authenticity of the video.

If the video is real, then all we can say is that she got what she deserved.

Unfortunately, this is not the first time that we see American security forces act in an unhinged way. In contrast, I remember the German policemen pointing his gun at the Iraqi who charged his car into the Christmas market last year. The restraint of the German policeman was outstanding, yelling on the man to leave his car for more than one minute without shooting. That I consider to be a security agent acting with restraint.
Rich says:
January 14, 2026 at 12:46 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Ron Unz
@Punch Brother Punch

I don’t know if anyone has posted this here yet, but the video in this tweet, which looks like it was taken from one of the nearby yards, clearly shows the vehicle striking the officer, quite hard.

I'll admit I haven't really paid much to these "battling videos" on the Internet but looking at the one you posted, I'm pretty sure it's totally misleading.

One of the shows I watched---it might have been the Napolitano interview with Greenwald that I embedded in my article above---actually featured exactly that video clip, saying that it certainly seemed to show that the ICE officer had been struck.

But then they showed another video clip taken from a different angle, and it showed that the car never touched the ICE agent. They probably went over 5 or 6 different video clips, and the NYT compilation did as well, and all of the material seemed to solidly confirm that (A) the ICE agent was never touched and (B) that the woman was definitely trying to avoid him as she started to drive off.

If you haven't already done so, you really should watch a couple of those videos I'd embedded since they went over all this stuff in a great deal of detail.

But like I said, I haven't been paying much attention to this controversy, so if you watch those videos, you might come to different conclusions.
Replies: @Rich
There are no “battling videos”. There are several different angles showing the agent in front of the vehicle being struck. It’s disingenuous to claim the proof in front of everyone’s eyes isn’t real. The agent is clearly struck, the hole in the windshield is from the front. Why is there even an argument about this?

Napolitano, and most of his guests, have gone completely off the rails in the quest for more clicks. They’ve been wrong on every prediction they make and are now outright lying about facts they don’t like. But that seems to be the norm now, as can be seen in the comments here where video showing the agent being struck is dismissed because it doesn’t fit the narrative. Hands up, knee on neck, skittles land.

• Replies: @Ron Unz
@Rich

There are no “battling videos”. There are several different angles showing the agent in front of the vehicle being struck. It’s disingenuous to claim the proof in front of everyone’s eyes isn’t real. The agent is clearly struck, the hole in the windshield is from the front. Why is there even an argument about this?

Well, I think there are something like 5-6 different videos, all taken from different angles.

The one you highlight appears to show that the car hit the ICE agent, which seems rather implausible since he afterwards showed not the slightest sign of any physical injury. But because of the positioning of the camera, what actually happened is far from clear.

Meanwhile, all the other videos taken from different angles seem to show that the car never touched him.

Naturally, you and all the ignorant Trumpists promote the one apparently misleading video and ignore all the others.

Like I said, I haven't been paying much attention to those details or analyzing the various videos. I'm not all that interested in the topic.

But for those who are, I'd just recommended that they watch some of the different videos and make up their own minds. I think they where included included in those much longer YouTube and Twitter videos that I'd embedded in my article.
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Pierre de Craon says:
January 14, 2026 at 3:55 am GMT • 100 Words
@Rich
@Pierre de Craon
As a Catholic I'm sure you're familiar with St Augustine and the principle of self-defense. By now you must've seen the second and third released videos which show the agent shot from the front as he was struck by the suv and he shot through the windshield, not the side.
Replies: @Pierre de Craon
LOL.

I’m even more familiar with your endless stream of half-truths, lies, and distortions, all in aid of your heretically warped moral perspective, which accords government agents a license to murder civilians on the claimed basis of their unmanly fear. As your “reasons” and arguments for excusing willful murder are founded upon the shifting sands of prevarication, they are beneath contempt.

• LOL: Rich
Rich says:
January 14, 2026 at 3:09 am GMT
@littlereddot
@Rich

She drives straight at the agent in front of her, hits him and he shoots her through the windshield.

We must be watching different videos.
First she reverses the car in order to angle it clear of the ICE agents. If you wanted to mow down somebody with a car, would you first forwarn him by reversing? Would you angle the car away from him?
Then she drives in a curve in order to avoid the ICE agent in her way. The trajectory of the car continues in this curved direction after she is shot showing that she had already put the steering wheel in that direction.
I don't think you really watched the video with an unbiased eye. It seems you have come to your opinion even before you watched the video...probably because of the following thought/opinion process:

1. ICE agents are getting rid of brown and black people....therefore ICE = Good
2. Woman opposed ICE agent, therefore Woman = Bad.
3. Woman was lesbian therefore Woman = Very Bad.
Replies: @Rich, @OldRelic
How did he get hit by the front of the car and fire through the windshield? Punch Brother Punch at # 452 has a pretty good video that should clear up your misconceptions.

• Replies: @littlereddot
@Rich

How did he get hit by the front of the car and fire through the windshield?

If he got hit by the front of the car, would he still be standing steady enough to fire 3 shots accurately and in quick succession?
Have you ever seen a person struck by a car first hand? I have. The person was 3 feet away from me. The impact flung her onto the windshield, hit her head on the windshield, then rolled off the car. Then lying on the street, she foamed at the mouth for 10 minutes before the ambulance arrived. She died later in hospital.
The ICE agent was certainly not struck by the car. If he did, the momentum from a 5000 pound SUV would have sent him flying. After he got to his feet again, it would have taken him yet more seconds to compose himself enough to shoot off a close 3 shot grouping on the windshield.
Have you ever fired a rifle after physical activity, or urgent physical activity such as this? For example firing the rifle after one runs down 200 metres at the shooting range? One has to force himself to stay steady, compose himself and control his breath so that his breathing doesn't cause his rounds to fly all over the place.
If the ICE agent had really been struck by the car, he would not have fired his shots so soon, and his shots would have been far more erratic than that.
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Rich says:
January 14, 2026 at 1:52 am GMT • 100 Words
@Pierre de Craon
@Rich
I'm a lifelong practicing Catholic. You, on the other hand, are a pharisee who pretends that an ICE agent's use-of-force guidelines outweigh God's law.
Replies: @Rich
As a Catholic I’m sure you’re familiar with St Augustine and the principle of self-defense. By now you must’ve seen the second and third released videos which show the agent shot from the front as he was struck by the suv and he shot through the windshield, not the side.

• Replies: @Pierre de Craon
@Rich
LOL.

I'm even more familiar with your endless stream of half-truths, lies, and distortions, all in aid of your heretically warped moral perspective, which accords government agents a license to murder civilians on the claimed basis of their unmanly fear. As your "reasons" and arguments for excusing willful murder are founded upon the shifting sands of prevarication, they are beneath contempt.
Rich says:
January 14, 2026 at 1:27 am GMT
@Tundra
@Rich
Despite ICE being a federal entity it gets to make its own rules contrary to other federal law enforcement agencies? Another poster above shows how even SCOTUS has greatly diminished the OK Corral mindset. Many states have followed suit, lowering bystander and perp deaths.

The still shots and various videos in this Unz column clearly show that the agent in question was in front of the left headlight (not centered in front), easily took one step aside when the car started moving and fired the first shot when the car's hood had mostly passed him and the driver was clearly turning right to get away. He continued firing when the car was half past him. He reacted like an Iraq vet, which he was, instead of like a cop.

It was a tense situation and the deceased was repeatedly breaking the law by obstruction. That doesn't justify her death.
Replies: @Carroll Price, @Rich, @Punch Brother Punch
Again, watch the video posted by Poupon Marx in comment #345. She drives straight at the agent in front of her, hits him and he shoots her through the windshield. That’s called self defense whether she was “frightened” ( after spending 2 days harassing agents) or not

• Replies: @littlereddot
@Rich

She drives straight at the agent in front of her, hits him and he shoots her through the windshield.

We must be watching different videos.
First she reverses the car in order to angle it clear of the ICE agents. If you wanted to mow down somebody with a car, would you first forwarn him by reversing? Would you angle the car away from him?
Then she drives in a curve in order to avoid the ICE agent in her way. The trajectory of the car continues in this curved direction after she is shot showing that she had already put the steering wheel in that direction.
I don't think you really watched the video with an unbiased eye. It seems you have come to your opinion even before you watched the video...probably because of the following thought/opinion process:

1. ICE agents are getting rid of brown and black people....therefore ICE = Good
2. Woman opposed ICE agent, therefore Woman = Bad.
3. Woman was lesbian therefore Woman = Very Bad.
Replies: @Rich, @OldRelic
Carroll Price says:
January 13, 2026 at 10:26 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Tundra
@Rich
Despite ICE being a federal entity it gets to make its own rules contrary to other federal law enforcement agencies? Another poster above shows how even SCOTUS has greatly diminished the OK Corral mindset. Many states have followed suit, lowering bystander and perp deaths.

The still shots and various videos in this Unz column clearly show that the agent in question was in front of the left headlight (not centered in front), easily took one step aside when the car started moving and fired the first shot when the car's hood had mostly passed him and the driver was clearly turning right to get away. He continued firing when the car was half past him. He reacted like an Iraq vet, which he was, instead of like a cop.

It was a tense situation and the deceased was repeatedly breaking the law by obstruction. That doesn't justify her death.
Replies: @Carroll Price, @Rich, @Punch Brother Punch
I have seen no evidence that the woman was anything but terrified and panicked after two masked men in combat gear approached her car (with other masked men around it) demanding she get out of the car while jerking on her car door.

There’s a very good chance that under similar conditions, a man would have reacted differently and saved his life.

But as anyone who’s spend time around women know, females under even the best conditions are highly emotional and subject to fits of insanity.

• LOL: Rich

Alastair Crooke • January 12, 2026 • 184 Comments • Reply

When the moral pose is openly and exultantly flaunted as sham then young Christians who take themselves seriously become rebellious. So, finally an act of unvarnished predatory action by Trump and his team – the abduction of President Maduro in a lightning night-time military strike – has launched 2026 into a pivotal moment. A pivotal...

Rich says:
January 13, 2026 at 7:52 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Same old same old
@Rich
So what you're saying is, Trump is at best no better than he spent years attacking as terrible, and we should accept that unquestioningly as fine and dandy.
If we're going to accept that, then it doesn't bode well for all his efforts to seize power and oppress Americans, does it? Isn't that power grab and brutality being fine predicated on the assertions he is "different" and "fighting for us," unlike all those other guys?
What a mess.
Replies: @Rich
Trump ended DIE in federal hiring and promotion and is going after private organizations that discriminate against Whites. All my children, all my nieces and nephews are White. Dems openly discriminate against Whites. I’ll go with the guy who doesn’t hate my people. Even if I disagree with his foreign policy.

• Replies: @CalDre
@Rich

Trump ended DIE in federal hiring and promotion

It was already on shaky grounds due to a Supreme Court decision in Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard, 600 U.S. 181 (2023) - if not obvious, the opinion referred to . Plus a couple dozen states passed anti-DEI laws. This was easy fruit to hand TrumpTards, but as it's all by executive order, it's easy enough to reverse by the next puppet-in-chief. Why not make it law? Oh, right, Ceasar doesn't need the Senate.

[Trump] is going after private organizations that discriminate against Whites.

For (significant) example?

Why doesn't he do what would be the only effective method to rid the US of (generally non-White) illegal immigrants: strictly enforce laws prohibiting employment without citizenship or other work authorization, and seek to make those laws even stricter (e.g. substantial criminal penalties[1]) while the "Rs" "control Congress"? That's how you get the illegals to self-deport - no job, no stay.

I’ll go with the guy who doesn’t hate my people.

As long as you submit to Jewish rule, Trump will pretend he doesn't hate you. Fact is he does not care one bit about you or your nephews and nieces, White or not - he only cares about a select few people. His war against free speech, his tax and fiscal policies (including tariffs), his failure to take adequate steps to remove the illegal population[2], his militarization of federal police, his endless wars and aggression in service of ZioNazis and oligarchs, etc., are all clear manifestations that he doesn't care about Whites (at least 95% of them), all he cares about are Jews and oligarchs (and esp. Jewish oligarchs).

[1] Per 8 U.S.C. 1324(a)(3)(A), an employer may be punished by up to 5 years in jail, but only if the employer had "actual knowledge" of hiring 10 such individuals in any 12-month period. Obviously this provides significant loopholes as it is very difficult to prove "actual knowledge"; rather the penalties should apply if the employer does not verify employment eligibility.

8 U.S.C. 1324a(f)(1) provides for up to 6 months imprisonment, regardless of the extent of non-compliance.

There are no sentencing guidelines applicable to these crimes. See Appendix A (Statutory Index) to the Sentencing Guidelines.

[2] Instead of going after employers of unlawful immigrants, he sends federal troops to repress the population, all while making minimal progress on the deportation pledge.

The Truth Will Set You Free | Trump Tells New York Times Civil Rights Led to White People Being ‘Very Badly Treated’

Paul Kersey • January 12, 2026 • 28 Comments • Reply

Rich says:
January 13, 2026 at 7:01 pm GMT • 100 Words
Trump stands up for White folks, and a bunch of Whites on this site keep trying to rip him apart because of Israel and the anti-White lesbian who was shot trying to run over a White ICE agent. Wake up, Whitey, you either stand together or get ripped apart by the angry mud people.

• Agree: Johnny LeBlanc
• Replies: @Johnny LeBlanc
@Rich
This.

Though Republicans just love Israel, the alternative is the shit stain and faggot worshipping left, who not only want to deny Whites opportunity, they want to disenfranchise, disposses, and kill us.

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
, @Exile in Paradise
@Rich
Trump does not stand for anyone or anything but himself.
He does nothing for "White Folks" but tell them the platitudes they want to hear so that they will fall in line with the rest of his Judeophiliac agenda. Wake up. You cannot separate these things.
Really---when will you people realize that the multiracial so called diversity culture that took over the United States beginning many decades ago was zealously promoted and funded and driven down the throats of media and academia by the Jews --who, by the way, despise you?
Replies: @Rich, @ServesyouallWhite

The Trump Doctrine: "They Have It. We Want It. We Take It."

The Rubicon Crossed – Team Trump’s Nihilistic Anti-values Paradigm

Rich says:
January 13, 2026 at 6:32 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Harold Smith
@Rich

Let me get this straight, Harold, you feel that anyone should be allowed to cross the border into the US and that once in can’t be deported?

Let me try to explain it to you again: I feel that if the u.s. "government" can routinely cross borders and do whatever it wants in other peoples' countries (generally maliciously imposing economic and political hardships which makes many people there want to leave) then who are you or anyone else to say that they can't come here and do whatever they want? Maybe you have trouble accepting reality but in the universe we live in, actions have consequences, and bad actions generally have bad consequences.

Are you mentally ill? Deranged?

I'm not the one being hypocritical here. I'm not the one who refuses to accept that actions have consequences. So apparently you're looking at your mirror rather than your monitor as you type your hapless statist apologia.

Every country on the planet has laws against illegally entering a country and deports those who do it.

There you go again throwing around meaningless words like "illegally." Practically everything that your fat orange bastard messiah does is "illegal" in some sense but that doesn't seem to matter and you don't seem to have a problem with it, so why keep repeating it here?

Again, because it drives down the wages of American workers, drives up housing costs and ties up social service resources that should be available for American citizens.

First, there you go again, using another word that no longer has any objective meaning. WTF is an "American" anything? Is it anyone who just happens to "live" or to "be" in a certain geographic area; is it anyone who supports your fat orange bastard messiah? Please explain precisely what an "American" is. Second, to the extent your barely asserted claim has any validity at all in some meaningful context, the net damage is insignificant compared to the damage being done (to any such "'American' citizens") by way of profligate "government" spending on militarism, warmongering, "foreign aid," etc., the "government" supported health care extortion racket, confiscatory communist property tax, etc.

What would happen to your spaghetti armed ass if you went to Mexico or Honduras or Red China illegally?

Apparently unlike you, Rich, since I personally have respect for the laws of other countries - countries whose governments haven't maliciously violated my natural rights and whose governments haven't officially repudiated the rule of law that is - that's something that I wouldn't do, thus your question is moot.

A more relevant question is this: What will happen to your spaghetti armed ass when your lawless fat orange bastard messiah brings the missiles down on "your country" contaminating the biosphere with a lethal amount of cesium-137 and Strontium-90?

Is it possible you’re this stupid?

Since I'm not the one here who supports the doomed evil empire of the fat orange bastard and its jew handlers, probably not, knucklehead.

And it has zero to do with Trump. The immigration laws have been on the books forever. You can’t be this stupid. It’s impossible.

Well look who's talking. Yo shit for brains, as I've endeavored to point out to you, by word and deed, your fat orange bastard messiah has officially, demonstrably repudiated the u.s. constitution and the rule of law. Are the "immigration laws" somehow any more valid than the "supreme law of the land" i.e. the constitution? No, they're not.

And that's all the time I have for your statist bullshit at the moment.
Replies: @Rich, @Truth Vigilante
So you think the American people should be impoverished by unlimited immigration because the government is involved in wars? Wow. The rape and murder of Laken Riley by an illegal alien is nothing to you. The rape and murder of Rachel Morin by an illegal leaving her four children without a mother means nothing to you. You support foreigners over your own people. To me, that’s about as low as a person can go. Good luck in your future endeavors
Rich says:
January 13, 2026 at 6:27 pm GMT
@Pierre de Craon
@Rich
In short, murder is OK for DHS thugs and for Rich and his fellow adherents to the Homeland Security version of Christianity. Goodbye Sermon on the Mount, hello Sermon from Minneapolis: "Blessed are the masked feds, for they can shoot lesbian leftists at will."
Replies: @Rich, @muh muh
It’s amusing when non-Christians try to tell Christians what their Faith is about. Watch the video Poupon Marx posted at comment #345 which clearly shows the agent who fired his weapon was in front of the vehicle and fired in self defense.

• Replies: @Pierre de Craon
@Rich
I'm a lifelong practicing Catholic. You, on the other hand, are a pharisee who pretends that an ICE agent's use-of-force guidelines outweigh God's law.
Replies: @Rich

Alastair Crooke • January 12, 2026 • 184 Comments • Reply

Rich says:
January 13, 2026 at 6:23 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Anglo Mark
@Rich

If the US puts boots on the ground in Iran or somewhere else, then we can talk about him going back on a campaign promise.

Lincoln, Wilson and FDR were all war criminals - not unlike the latest war criminal Trump. Are you seriously making the argument that because Trump - as of yet placed no boots on the ground on foreign land - that Trump kept his no more wars promise? And that a president who commits acts of war against another country through bombings is not starting a war unless boots are placed on the ground - despite Trump declaring that the transmission of drugs into the U.S. is an act of war?

Moreover, Trump did place boots on the ground in Venezuela - hundreds of boots - to kidnap a foreign leader and INVADED a foreign country with boots on the ground. Do you now qualify your inane and dangerous "no boots on the ground" argument with "if less than a thousand boots on the ground" or "if placing boots on the ground for less than ten hours," no act of war is committed?

According to your deceitful logic, if Iran bombed the U.S. and placed a dozen commandos with boots on the ground to kidnap Trump in an operation that lasts a few hours, Iran would not be waging war against the U.S. - despite Trump declaring that the transmission of drugs into the U.S. is an act of war? When do your lies end and truth begin? When does blind apologia give way to honest and wise thought - and words?

Do Trump supporters ever read their own nonsense before making fools of themselves? Besides refusing to address the many other issues raised in my post at no. 33 (or must I re-list the issues?) that you cowardly ignored, you also suggest that because the world was evil before Trump and the world will be evil after Trump, so what if the world is more evil during Trump and the U.S. Constitution is trampled in the process. Is this now the essence of defending Trump? As someone who voted for Trump in 2016, I witnessed the true (and evil) Trump - when will you and your fellow Trump supporters?

Apparently, Trump supporters would make excuses for literally anything about Trump; literally anything!

You guys are giving in to media created hype.

First, I stopped watching the main stream media "hype" during the Reagan years and never watch more than a few clips now on various podcasts hosted by Ron Paul and Judge Andrew Napolitano - true conservatives who eschew the neoconservatives like you and Lindsey Graham who seek the destruction of our Republic!

Second, the media NEVER criticizes Trump on the most profound issue: supporting the genocidal state of Israel!
Replies: @Rich
1. Which president did the media ever criticize for supporting Israel? All US presidents have supported Israel since 1948.
2. Trump is too far left of center for me. I disagree with many of his policy decisions. Unlike the dem party, he doesn’t hate White people. The dems pass laws and regulations that openly discriminate against Whites. All my children are White. All my nieces and nephews are White. For better or worse I have to support the party that isn’t openly hostile to my family.
3. The current war in Gaza started under Biden/Harris. Israel has been supported by both political parties through every war its fought. You can’t win on that issue. 99% of elected American politicians fully support Israel. Why is Trump the one who goes to the head of the line?

The Trump Doctrine: "They Have It. We Want It. We Take It."

The Rubicon Crossed – Team Trump’s Nihilistic Anti-values Paradigm

Rich says:
January 13, 2026 at 5:28 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Tundra
@Rich
On the contrary. DOJ's Justice Manual states that shooting a moving vehicle should not be exercised except in extreme cases and that there is no reasonable alternative, including getting out of the vehicle's way.
Replies: @Rich
You must have missed it, but ICE isn’t under DOJ policies, they’re under Homeland Security. But if you watch the video posted by Poupon Marx comment #345, you’ll see that this shooter is in front of the car, is hit by the car and fires through the windshield. All of which would fall under the DOJ rules. And again, ICE doesn’t operate under DOJ policies.

• Replies: @Tundra
@Rich
Despite ICE being a federal entity it gets to make its own rules contrary to other federal law enforcement agencies? Another poster above shows how even SCOTUS has greatly diminished the OK Corral mindset. Many states have followed suit, lowering bystander and perp deaths.

The still shots and various videos in this Unz column clearly show that the agent in question was in front of the left headlight (not centered in front), easily took one step aside when the car started moving and fired the first shot when the car's hood had mostly passed him and the driver was clearly turning right to get away. He continued firing when the car was half past him. He reacted like an Iraq vet, which he was, instead of like a cop.

It was a tense situation and the deceased was repeatedly breaking the law by obstruction. That doesn't justify her death.
Replies: @Carroll Price, @Rich, @Punch Brother Punch
Lawrence Erickson says:
January 13, 2026 at 4:33 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Poupon Marx
@Avery
I believe this video will go a long way in clearing up the matter. This woman had already broken the law by inserting herself in a legally sanctioned operation, and then compounding it by blocking the road causing an impediment.

She then either panics or angrily accelerates rapidly, in a highly charged emotional state, strikes a glancing blow to the official, who discharged his weapon, as he was trained to do. From his point of view, his perception, and split second cognitive evaluation, he is to be given the benefit of the doubt that this woman was using her vehicle in an attempted homicide, against him.

Arm chair analysis, Monday morning quarterbacking, and emotional preening for virtue signaling is unsightly and repugnant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y04ndAPynMk
Replies: @Lawrence Erickson, @Felpudinho

From his point of view, his perception, and split second cognitive evaluation, he is to be given the benefit of the doubt that this woman was using her vehicle in an attempted homicide, against him.

Arm chair analysis, Monday morning quarterbacking…

Exactly, this reminds me of how we always hear this every time a black criminal is shot. You’ve always got people on their computers shouting “Why didn’t he shoot him in the leg?”

Why didn’t the officer jump out of the way? Better questions are: If Renee Good was so afraid of ICE officers, why did she join an organization dedicated to harassing and impeding them? Why did she resist arrest with a deadly weapon? Why did she think she could get away with treating the police like she’s playing Grand Theft Auto?

• Agree: Rich, Greg Garros
• Replies: @Poupon Marx
@Lawrence Erickson

Why didn’t the officer jump out of the way?

From the video, it looks as if he did and still got clipped or brushed by the left side of the car. He obviously could have been knocked over and run over by her left front wheel - and more.

The officer had received an injury previously from an ICE protester that dragged him along the street when his arm got caught in an auto window. For that he received 30 stitches in his lower leg.

I have never condoned illegal immigration. Both my grandparents came from poverty stricken, backwards Greece - desolate and broken after independence from the Ottoman Empire, after over 3 centuries. They arrived with nothing, not even sure if they could or would be accepted for entrance. They went through the entire process and screening, which was quite vigorous in the early 20th century; through Ellis Island.

Every Illegal alien is guilty of a crime, as it is illegal to enter the country unauthorized.
Then they displace American citizens for jobs. And of course they are tools of the International Jew and Cabal that aims to replace native citizens of European extraction with normative average IQ of 100, with those of lower mean. This is for easier manipulation and control, and the greater ease of creating a wage and work slave population for sadistic and material wealth enhancement. The dimmer bulbs of the "White" Race suppress this knowledge and substitute Black athlete worship.

ICE, doing the dirty work of prying the leeches and other parasites off the fading illumination of the Founding and European stock, gets the "Hate Speech", epithets, cursing, condemnation of the very population that the illegal alien removal invader displace and channel their ethnic pathologies toward. Ironic, No?

You want the sewage cleaned up from your front yard from an overflow, but you despise and disparage the cleaners, the guys who have to wade out in the shit and get themselves dirty.
So, who is truly "despicable" and "deplorable", the ICE "Nazis", or the whims and willalambs and weak-minded pishposh pretenders.
This is a classic case of disconnection, from the problem from its causes and its curers and those of practicing prophylaxis.
Replies: @Lawrence Erickson
arbeit macht frei says:
January 13, 2026 at 3:33 pm GMT
@Rich
@Tucker
Do you think that Kamala Emhoff (her married name) wasn't supported by billionaire Jewish donors? Do you think Biden wasn't supported by billionaire Jewish donors? Didn't the Biden administration support and finance the initial Israeli invasion of Gaza? Hasn't every American president supported every Israeli action since 1948? If your primary issue is Israel, you don't have a major party in the US to support.

Trump (who is too far to the left for me) has closed the border. If you vote dem or don't vote at all, get ready for 29 million more illegals and amnesty. Trump ended DIE in federal hiring and promotions and is going after private entities that discriminate against Whites. He also lowered some taxes and eliminated job killing regulations. If that's not enough for you, if you think you can get more from some other major politician, let me know. Sometimes in this fallen world, we have to go with the better devil or the lesser evil.
Replies: @arbeit macht frei
it’s been voting against the lesser of two evils in the USA for a long time.

• Agree: Rich
Rich says:
January 13, 2026 at 4:11 pm GMT
@Avery
@Rich

It is settled law that a sworn law enforcement officer can shoot at a suspect fleeing in a vehicle.

If you would provide some references from law journals, case law and such.
You -- and you alone -- making that assertion doesn't cut it.
Even if you were an attorney.

Here are some references that contradict your assertion:

1) https://www.justice.gov/jm/1-16000-department-justice-policy-use-force#1-16.200

Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle

Agent deliberately moved in front of the vehicle to block it: completely reckless.

2) https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/shooting-fleeing-felon-state-law

UNDER TRADITIONAL RULE, FATAL SHOOTINGS BY POLICE OFFICERS OF SUSPECTED FELONS WHO ARE FLEEING FROM ARREST GENERALLY HAVE BEEN HELD PRIVILEGED AND THUS NOT SUBJECT TO LEGAL SANCTION

Suspected felons only.
She was no felon.

3) https://verdict.justia.com/2026/01/09/the-legality-of-deadly-force-three-critical-questions-about-the-ice-shooting-in-minneapolis

The legality of the ICE agent’s use of force in this case will likely turn on three specific facts: whether the agent made a reckless tactical decision by stepping in front of the vehicle, whether Ms. Good’s actions were reasonably perceived as presenting an imminent threat of death or great bodily harm to the agent or others, and whether the agent could have reasonably resolved any threat presented by the vehicle’s forward movement by stepping out of the way instead of shooting.

(by Seth W. Stoughton is a Professor of Law at the University of South Carolina Joseph F. Rice School of Law, where he serves as the Faculty Director of the Excellence in Policing & Public Safety Program.)

He could have easily stepped out of the way instead of opening fire.

Both she and her lesbian lover

You have read my posts for some time, as I have yours.
You know quite well what my foundational beliefs are on such matters.
But we are discussing the ICE agent's actions that led to killing a human being.
Not the victim's lifestyle.

We are not like "them", but unchecked power will eventually get to people like you and I.

"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" Lord Acton
Replies: @Rich, @Punch Brother Punch, @Punch Brother Punch, @Greg Garros
Comment #345 by Poupon Marx has a video that explains the law pretty well. The case I’m referring to is Plurnhoff v Rickard (2014) which was referrnced to me by a lawyer I know who’s defended people who had to use firearms in self-defense.
Rich says:
January 13, 2026 at 2:32 pm GMT • 100 Words
@No You Can't Shoot Fleeing Suspects
@Rich
Your comment is not true. It is an oversimplification and misleading as stated.

The U.S. Supreme Court has not given law enforcement officers a blanket "right to shoot a fleeing suspect." Instead, key rulings and federal standards place strict limits on when deadly force can be used.

The landmark case is Tennessee v. Garner (1985), where the Supreme Court ruled that under the Fourth Amendment (which governs seizures, including use of force in arrests), police may not use deadly force against a fleeing suspect unless:
• It is necessary to prevent escape, and
• The officer has probable cause to believe the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.

The Court explicitly struck down older "fleeing felon" rules (common in some states) that allowed shooting any fleeing felony suspect, even if unarmed and non-violent. As the decision stated: "A police officer may not seize an unarmed, nondangerous suspect by shooting him dead."

Subsequent cases like Graham v. Connor (1989) reinforced that all use of force must be "objectively reasonable" based on the totality of circumstances, with deadly force reserved for situations involving imminent serious harm.

There is no broad federal law or statute granting officers an unrestricted "right" to shoot fleeing suspects simply for fleeing. Federal guidance (e.g., Department of Justice policies) and most agency rules echo this: deadly force is prohibited when used solely to prevent escape without an imminent threat of death or serious injury.

In short, flight alone does not justify deadly force. The law requires a reasonable belief of a serious, immediate danger, not just that someone is running away.

Your comment reverses the actual legal reality by implying broad permission where the Court and federal standards impose significant restrictions.
Replies: @Rich
Plurnhoff v Rickard (2014) allows for a peace officer to shoot at a fleeing suspect. In this case, if you watch the second video released, (posted by Poupon Marx at # 345) you’ll see this officer was in front of the car, is struck and fires from the front into the windshield. There is another video on the net recorded by the shooter’s camera that shows Good staring directly at him as she accelerates in his direction. The confusion is because most people saw the first video and assumed the shooter was the agent at the driver’s side window. Not the case.

• Replies: @Harold Smith
@Rich

Plurnhoff v Rickard (sic) (2014) allows for a peace officer to shoot at a fleeing suspect.

You seem to be implying that the supreme court in this case i.e. Plumhoff v. Rickard, 572 U.S. 765 (2014), gave cops some kind of unconditional authority to shoot people. Guess what, they didn't (sorry if this offends your gentle statist sensibilities). You even misspelled the appellant's name which poses the question: Did you even bother to look at the text? Apparently not.

Going by the supreme court decision in Barnes-v-Felix and relevant DHS policy, the idiot ICE agent who shot that woman needs to go to prison.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/23-1239_onjq.pdf

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/mgmt/law-enforcement/mgmt-dir_044-05-department-policy-on-the-use-of-force.pdf
Rich says:
January 13, 2026 at 2:24 pm GMT • 200 Words
@Tucker
@Tennessee Jed
"Trump is a disaster. What support? His followers are abandoning him like the Titanic."
I agree with Tennessee Jed and this guy Rich is suffering from a terminal case of denial. Here is a dose of harsh reality, so I suggest that Rich take a bitter bite:
Half of the country hates Trump's greasy orange guts and have the incurable Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS). Prior to the jewish billionaires greasing the skids to put him back into the White House, the other half of the country stupidly listened to, and believed, the lies this Orange asshole spewed and swallowed the fake promises he made (no more wars, America First, mass deportations, ending the Ukraine war, releasing the Epstein files, etc.) and voted for this creep in order to prevent the Cackling Hyena from taking over the White House. Of that half of the country who voted for Trump, I would estimate that half of that half (25%) held their nose to vote for him only because of their hatred for the White race hating Democrat Communist Party and they saw Trump as the lesser of two evils. Not because they blindly loved this lying scumbag.
Now that he has spent a year in office, the half that voted for him have seen him morph into an unhinged, arrogant, mafia-gangster war mongering psychopath. They've seen him break nearly every promise he made to get elected - he has become everything his supporters voted against. He is obviously trying to prevent the Epstein files to be made public, which means he is aggressively protecting pedophile criminals, which strongly suggests that those files contain evidence of his own complicity in the Epstein - Maxwell honeypot sexual blackmail operation. Protecting the pedophile perpetrators means he does not want the victims to receive justice for what happened to them.
And, then there is his complicity in the ongoing Genocide that Israel and Satanyahu are committing in Gaza and the West Bank. He is every bit as guilty as Satanyahu in those war crimes and atrocities because he is enabling them by supplying Israel with the bombs and munitions and armaments being used to commit those crimes.
So, with half of the country already hating his guts - by his actions over the last year, he has lost at least half (25%) of the other half who supported him in 2024. Which means his support numbers are now down to around a measly 25% - which consists of reality denialists like Rich.
Conclusion: We hear a lot about this mental disease known as TDS. But, there is an opposite mental disease that is even more dangerous. Its acronym is TDSS. Extrapolated it means:
Trump Dick Sucking Syndrome.
BTW: I held my nose and voted for this Orange Slimeball 3 times, only because the alternative was too horrible to contemplate. Today, a year into his second term - I viscerally despise the guy & regret voting for him in 2024. I should have written in Thomas Massie for President.
Replies: @Rich
Do you think that Kamala Emhoff (her married name) wasn’t supported by billionaire Jewish donors? Do you think Biden wasn’t supported by billionaire Jewish donors? Didn’t the Biden administration support and finance the initial Israeli invasion of Gaza? Hasn’t every American president supported every Israeli action since 1948? If your primary issue is Israel, you don’t have a major party in the US to support.

Trump (who is too far to the left for me) has closed the border. If you vote dem or don’t vote at all, get ready for 29 million more illegals and amnesty. Trump ended DIE in federal hiring and promotions and is going after private entities that discriminate against Whites. He also lowered some taxes and eliminated job killing regulations. If that’s not enough for you, if you think you can get more from some other major politician, let me know. Sometimes in this fallen world, we have to go with the better devil or the lesser evil.

• Replies: @arbeit macht frei
@Rich
it's been voting against the lesser of two evils in the USA for a long time.
Rich says:
January 13, 2026 at 1:39 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Joe Levantine
@Rich
The U.S. is supposed to be a society that bases itself on the law of the land. The lady who got shot by an ICE imbecile was not supposed to be there and should have ceded to the instructions of the ICE agents. But clearly the goon was not acting in self defense. He could have shot the tyres of the car or simply taken the number of the plate for later prosecution. He has appointed himself judge, jury and executioner. In the Wild West even sheriffs took the due care of giving a suspect the right to a fair trial.

This is a slippery slope, that left unchecked, could lead to civil war.
Replies: @Rich
If you watch the video posted at #345 by Poupon Marx you’ll see that the ICE agent was in front of the car, was struck by the car and shot through the windshield. If that’s not enough for you to give the benefit of the doubt to the officer, you’re seeing this shooting through ideological lenses. Do you still believe Chauvin was leaning on Floyd’s neck? Or Trayvon was a future rocket scientist out getting skittles?

• Replies: @Joe Levantine
@Rich
I did see the video from different angles posted in X. The ICE officer was not within the line of the car.

The facts on the ground should be well debated in a court of law once all evidences are exposed.

“Do you still believe Chauvin was leaning on Floyd’s neck?”

From a video that I watched, it looked like Chauvin was totally innocent of all charges against him. The video recorded all the standoff with Floyd, maybe from the helmet camera of one of the policemen involved. But the media had already pronounced Chauvin guilty and the court procedure did not base itself on real evidence. Chauvin’s trial was political.

“ you’re seeing this shooting through ideological lenses.”

I regret to inform you that I do not subscribe to any political ideology. Having lived long enough to see how authorities behave in so many different countries, I found myself with maturity drawn to the side of anarchy. Still I believe in the right of everyone to a fair trial even though the judiciary is by and large corrupt in America.

Read the case of Martin Armstrong with the New York courts and it should be an eye opener.
Replies: @Rich
Poupon Marx says:
January 13, 2026 at 7:15 am GMT • 100 Words
@Avery
@notanonymoushere

And the cop didn’t even ask how many kids she was neglecting at home before he shot her?

How do you know she was neglecting her children*?
How do you know they were not in school, or daycare, or babysitter's care?

And why does that matter anyway?
When did it become a death sentence in US to supposedly neglect your children?

The shooting does not appear to be justified.
The agent could have easily jumped out of the way.
He was not boxed in: he had plenty of room to move out of the way.
He was heard to say “Fucking bitch.” after he shot her: this indicates he was predisposed to visit violence upon her; he was clearly looking for a confrontation.

Here is what the GAO guidelines say:

ICE’s directive page was temporarily unavailable online, but a 2023 Government Accountability Office report quotes ICE’s guidance directly.

The GAO quote reads: “Firearms shall not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles, vessels, aircraft or other conveyances, except when deadly force is authorized or under the limited circumstances in the policy.” That language mirrors guidance used by the Department of Justice and the FBI, which also say officers should not discharge firearms solely to disable moving vehicles and may do so only when occupants present an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm and no reasonable alternative exists.

Law enforcement experts say shooting at moving vehicles raises high risks of ricochet and collateral harm and is widely discouraged except in narrow, life‑threatening circumstances. Federal guidance aims to limit such discharges and require documentation and review when they occur.

Wasn't jumping out of the way a reasonable alternative?
He just had to shoot her dead?
Give me a break.

In a recent ruling SCOTUS reversed a long standing rule that allowed cops to use deadly force against fleeing "suspects" based on 'moment of the threat'. In this ruling 23-1239 Barnes v. Felix (05/15/2025)

unanimous Supreme Court decision rejecting the “moment-of-the-threat doctrine” in evaluating claims of excessive force by law enforcement. The justices found that only considering an officer’s immediate reaction to a perceived threat violates the Supreme Court’s own rule that police use of force incidents must be considered under the “totality of the circumstances” leading up to them.

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According to the web, she had one 14 y.o., one 12 y.o. and one 6 y.o.
Replies: @Rich, @Poupon Marx
I believe this video will go a long way in clearing up the matter. This woman had already broken the law by inserting herself in a legally sanctioned operation, and then compounding it by blocking the road causing an impediment.

She then either panics or angrily accelerates rapidly, in a highly charged emotional state, strikes a glancing blow to the official, who discharged his weapon, as he was trained to do. From his point of view, his perception, and split second cognitive evaluation, he is to be given the benefit of the doubt that this woman was using her vehicle in an attempted homicide, against him.

Arm chair analysis, Monday morning quarterbacking, and emotional preening for virtue signaling is unsightly and repugnant.

Video Link

• Thanks: Rich, Lawrence Erickson, Felpudinho
• Replies: @Lawrence Erickson
@Poupon Marx

From his point of view, his perception, and split second cognitive evaluation, he is to be given the benefit of the doubt that this woman was using her vehicle in an attempted homicide, against him.
Arm chair analysis, Monday morning quarterbacking...

Exactly, this reminds me of how we always hear this every time a black criminal is shot. You've always got people on their computers shouting "Why didn't he shoot him in the leg?"
Why didn't the officer jump out of the way? Better questions are: If Renee Good was so afraid of ICE officers, why did she join an organization dedicated to harassing and impeding them? Why did she resist arrest with a deadly weapon? Why did she think she could get away with treating the police like she's playing Grand Theft Auto?
Replies: @Poupon Marx
, @Felpudinho
@Poupon Marx

I believe this video will go a long way in clearing up the matter.

Here's a video clip of Nick Fuentes giving his unsympathetic two-cents worth on Renée Good's demise:

https://theworldwatch.com/videos/1609599/nick-fuentes-shuts-down-everybody-who-is-sympathetic-to-renee-good/

Alastair Crooke • January 12, 2026 • 184 Comments • Reply

Rich says:
January 13, 2026 at 1:21 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Anglo Mark
@Rich

Was the Rubicon crossed when Bush I flew into Panama and took Noriega? How about when Biden prosecuted and imprisoned Honduran president Hernandez? Did Western “values” end when America told Iraq or Grenada what do?

ABSOLUTELY!

However, the other presidents – certainly disgraceful by their acts and failures to act –NEVER:

Campaigned specifically on a platform of no more foreign interventionism, no more nation building and no more regime change wars! While simultaneously launching as many airstrikes in five months as the former president launched during his entire four-year term and waging war against seven countries while threatening war against many more viz, Colombia, Mexico, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, Brazil.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/12/ny-times-expose-cia-fights-russia-trumps-peace-deal-runs-on-illusion.html.

https://news.antiwar.com/2025/12/31/us-bombed-seven-countries-in-2025-as-trump-dramatically-expanded-airstrikes/

Campaigned on a promise to reduce military spending by 50% and then upon entering office, announced plans to increase military spending by 50%.

Ordered the United States to withdraw from 66 international organizations, accelerating Washington’s retreat from multilateral cooperation.

Threatened to invade a NATO country (Greenland) AND despite the U.S. being afforded unfettered access to its territory for security purposes.

Replied to a question from reporters about the limits, if any, on his power and replied: “Yeah, there is one thing; my own morality; my own mind. It’s the only thing that can stop me.” And “I don’t need international law; I’m not looking to hurt people,” as hundreds of people were killed during a nighttime raid (Venezuela) and hundreds more in bombings.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-unlimited-power-international-law?utm_source=Common+Dreams&utm_campaign=bc603305fc-Top+News+%7C+Fri.+1%2F9%2F26&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-c56d0ea580-601465935

Declared themselves the “acting president” of a foreign country (Venezuela).

Ad infinitum . . .

All this hand-wringing and finger wagging is nonsensical. Everything that Trump is doing is exactly what America and every other powerful nation on earth has been doing forever. Everybody take a deep breath.

Nothing to see here . . . move along now! The world was evil before Trump and the world will be evil after Trump! So what if the world is more evil during Trump? Everybody take a deep breath, relax and enjoy the ride!

Trump supporters would make excuses for literally anything about Trump; literally anything!

https://caityjohnstone.medium.com/they-kidnapped-maduro-because-the-world-is-ruled-by-unaccountable-tyrants-a3d443642dd4?source=user_profile_page---------0-------------c40ec5bece47----------------------

Is there anything more embarrassing or self-debasing than continuing to be a Trump supporter in 2026? If you supported Trump’s campaign platform in 2024, you should hate Donald Trump after 2025. If you support Trump in 2026, you are shouting to the world: “Thank you Daddy Trump! Please, shit on our faces and the U.S. Constitution more!”

https://caityjohnstone.medium.com/israel-bans-aid-groups-for-the-same-reason-it-bans-journalists-and-other-notes-e46fbb36f691?source=user_profile_page---------0-------------c40ec5bece47----------------------
Replies: @Rich, @Luus Kanin
Lincoln campaigned on a peace platform. Wilson campaigned on a peace platform. FDR campaigned on a peace platform. All got us into major wars. Up to this point, what major war has Trump gotten us into? Is there an actual, secret wsr going on? The Nobel Peace Prize winning Obama launched more bombs while president than Trump has. You guys are giving in to media created hype. If the US puts boots on the ground in Iran or somewhere else, then we can talk about him going back on a campaign promise. Hasn’t happened yet.

• Replies: @Anglo Mark
@Rich

If the US puts boots on the ground in Iran or somewhere else, then we can talk about him going back on a campaign promise.

Lincoln, Wilson and FDR were all war criminals - not unlike the latest war criminal Trump. Are you seriously making the argument that because Trump - as of yet placed no boots on the ground on foreign land - that Trump kept his no more wars promise? And that a president who commits acts of war against another country through bombings is not starting a war unless boots are placed on the ground - despite Trump declaring that the transmission of drugs into the U.S. is an act of war?

Moreover, Trump did place boots on the ground in Venezuela - hundreds of boots - to kidnap a foreign leader and INVADED a foreign country with boots on the ground. Do you now qualify your inane and dangerous "no boots on the ground" argument with "if less than a thousand boots on the ground" or "if placing boots on the ground for less than ten hours," no act of war is committed?

According to your deceitful logic, if Iran bombed the U.S. and placed a dozen commandos with boots on the ground to kidnap Trump in an operation that lasts a few hours, Iran would not be waging war against the U.S. - despite Trump declaring that the transmission of drugs into the U.S. is an act of war? When do your lies end and truth begin? When does blind apologia give way to honest and wise thought - and words?

Do Trump supporters ever read their own nonsense before making fools of themselves? Besides refusing to address the many other issues raised in my post at no. 33 (or must I re-list the issues?) that you cowardly ignored, you also suggest that because the world was evil before Trump and the world will be evil after Trump, so what if the world is more evil during Trump and the U.S. Constitution is trampled in the process. Is this now the essence of defending Trump? As someone who voted for Trump in 2016, I witnessed the true (and evil) Trump - when will you and your fellow Trump supporters?

Apparently, Trump supporters would make excuses for literally anything about Trump; literally anything!

You guys are giving in to media created hype.

First, I stopped watching the main stream media "hype" during the Reagan years and never watch more than a few clips now on various podcasts hosted by Ron Paul and Judge Andrew Napolitano - true conservatives who eschew the neoconservatives like you and Lindsey Graham who seek the destruction of our Republic!

Second, the media NEVER criticizes Trump on the most profound issue: supporting the genocidal state of Israel!
Replies: @Rich

The Trump Doctrine: "They Have It. We Want It. We Take It."

The Rubicon Crossed – Team Trump’s Nihilistic Anti-values Paradigm

Rich says:
January 13, 2026 at 4:31 am GMT • 100 Words
@Pierre de Craon
@Rich

It is legal, according to the US Supreme court and federal law, to shoot a suspect fleeing in a vehicle.

If you were half the Christian you boast of being, you would not have to be told that a knowingly stated half-truth is equivalent to a lie.
The US Department of Justice Policy on Use of Force is founded entirely on federal law and, to the applicable extent, on Federal and Supreme Court rulings. Here follow the applicable subsections on use of deadly force with respect to a suspect fleeing in a motor vehicle. One especially relevant clause has been highlighted.

1-16.200 - USE OF DEADLY FORCE AND PROHIBITED RESTRAINT TECHNIQUES
A. Deadly Force
Law enforcement and correctional officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force only when necessary, that is, when the officer has a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or to another person.
1. Deadly force may not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect.
2. Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force. [emphasis added]
3. If feasible and if to do so would not increase the danger to the officer or others, a verbal warning to submit to the authority of the officer shall be given prior to the use of deadly force.
4. Warning shots are not permitted outside of the prison context.

The ICE agent shooter in Minneapolis is a brother under the skin to the trigger-happy DC killers at Ruby Ridge and Waco. He committed murder as surely as did the Capitol policeman who killed Ashli Babbitt on January 6, 2021. Coincidentally, Trump was president then, too.
Commenter Rich and many others who are proud to be Trump loyalists in the Judaized USA seem to hold to a revised and improved version of the Fifth Commandment, one that now reads, "You shall not kill, unless someone really gets up your nose."
Replies: @Rich
Even with your fancy French alias you’re unaware that ICE falls under Homeland Security and not DOJ “policy”. Plurnhoff v Rickard clearly stated that an officer can shoot a suspect in a fleeing car. In this case the officer was in front of the vehicle and could have been seriously injured. Photos clearly show the shots went through the front windshield as well. Are you guys really unaware of the videos and photos that were released on day 2 after the incident? Are you still going with the skittles, hands up, knee on the neck leftist media story? Really?

• Replies: @Pierre de Craon
@Rich
In short, murder is OK for DHS thugs and for Rich and his fellow adherents to the Homeland Security version of Christianity. Goodbye Sermon on the Mount, hello Sermon from Minneapolis: "Blessed are the masked feds, for they can shoot lesbian leftists at will."
Replies: @Rich, @muh muh
Tennessee Jed says:
January 13, 2026 at 2:10 am GMT
@Rich
@Tennessee Jed
More BS. I did work at Trump's father's buildings (he had all American workers) and members of my union did a lot of work in Donald's buildings. All union, all American. Don't buy into the leftist writers who despise Trump for his White skin and White voters. The whole anti-ICE scam is just an attemlt to erode his support and bring the anti-White dem party back to power.
Replies: @Tennessee Jed
Your loyalty to your former employer is admirable but that doesn’t change the fact that Trump is a disaster. What support? His followers are abandoning him like the Titanic. He’s turned the U.S. into the leper colony of the world.

• Disagree: Rich
• Replies: @Tucker
@Tennessee Jed
"Trump is a disaster. What support? His followers are abandoning him like the Titanic."
I agree with Tennessee Jed and this guy Rich is suffering from a terminal case of denial. Here is a dose of harsh reality, so I suggest that Rich take a bitter bite:
Half of the country hates Trump's greasy orange guts and have the incurable Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS). Prior to the jewish billionaires greasing the skids to put him back into the White House, the other half of the country stupidly listened to, and believed, the lies this Orange asshole spewed and swallowed the fake promises he made (no more wars, America First, mass deportations, ending the Ukraine war, releasing the Epstein files, etc.) and voted for this creep in order to prevent the Cackling Hyena from taking over the White House. Of that half of the country who voted for Trump, I would estimate that half of that half (25%) held their nose to vote for him only because of their hatred for the White race hating Democrat Communist Party and they saw Trump as the lesser of two evils. Not because they blindly loved this lying scumbag.
Now that he has spent a year in office, the half that voted for him have seen him morph into an unhinged, arrogant, mafia-gangster war mongering psychopath. They've seen him break nearly every promise he made to get elected - he has become everything his supporters voted against. He is obviously trying to prevent the Epstein files to be made public, which means he is aggressively protecting pedophile criminals, which strongly suggests that those files contain evidence of his own complicity in the Epstein - Maxwell honeypot sexual blackmail operation. Protecting the pedophile perpetrators means he does not want the victims to receive justice for what happened to them.
And, then there is his complicity in the ongoing Genocide that Israel and Satanyahu are committing in Gaza and the West Bank. He is every bit as guilty as Satanyahu in those war crimes and atrocities because he is enabling them by supplying Israel with the bombs and munitions and armaments being used to commit those crimes.
So, with half of the country already hating his guts - by his actions over the last year, he has lost at least half (25%) of the other half who supported him in 2024. Which means his support numbers are now down to around a measly 25% - which consists of reality denialists like Rich.
Conclusion: We hear a lot about this mental disease known as TDS. But, there is an opposite mental disease that is even more dangerous. Its acronym is TDSS. Extrapolated it means:
Trump Dick Sucking Syndrome.
BTW: I held my nose and voted for this Orange Slimeball 3 times, only because the alternative was too horrible to contemplate. Today, a year into his second term - I viscerally despise the guy & regret voting for him in 2024. I should have written in Thomas Massie for President.
Replies: @Rich
Rich says:
January 13, 2026 at 3:22 am GMT • 100 Words
@Harold Smith
@Rich

They can “feel” anything they want.

Yep, or anything that's forced on them by imperial invaders, for example.

If they enter the US illegally they can, and should, be deported.

Who are you (or your messianic fat orange bastard) to say what's "illegal"?

They drive down wages of American workers and drive up the cost of housing as well as become a burden on social services that should be available for citizens.

Seriously? As if dropping bombs on them, stealing their resources, seizing their assets, pirating their oil tankers, destabilizing and overthrowing their governments, etc., is completely irrelevant to the situation. BTW what's driving up the cost of housing in the u.s. is primarily government corruption i.e. endless money printing, out of control communist property taxation, etc. not "illegals."

I guess that if you hate American citizens, you’ll be all-in on the illegals.

Well you fat orange bastard supporters obviously hate America and yet you're not "all-in on the illegals" so it seems you're wrong about that.
Replies: @muh muh, @Rich, @anon
Let me get this straight, Harold, you feel that anyone should be allowed to cross the border into the US and that once in can’t be deported? Are you mentally ill? Deranged? Every country on the planet has laws against illegally entering a country and deports those who do it. Again, because it drives down the wages of American workers, drives up housing costs and ties up social service resources that should be available for American citizens. What would happen to your spaghetti armed ass if you went to Mexico or Honduras or Red China illegally? Is it possible you’re this stupid? And it has zero to do with Trump. The immigration laws have been on the books forever. You can’t be this stupid. It’s impossible.

• Replies: @Harold Smith
@Rich

Let me get this straight, Harold, you feel that anyone should be allowed to cross the border into the US and that once in can’t be deported?

Let me try to explain it to you again: I feel that if the u.s. "government" can routinely cross borders and do whatever it wants in other peoples' countries (generally maliciously imposing economic and political hardships which makes many people there want to leave) then who are you or anyone else to say that they can't come here and do whatever they want? Maybe you have trouble accepting reality but in the universe we live in, actions have consequences, and bad actions generally have bad consequences.

Are you mentally ill? Deranged?

I'm not the one being hypocritical here. I'm not the one who refuses to accept that actions have consequences. So apparently you're looking at your mirror rather than your monitor as you type your hapless statist apologia.

Every country on the planet has laws against illegally entering a country and deports those who do it.

There you go again throwing around meaningless words like "illegally." Practically everything that your fat orange bastard messiah does is "illegal" in some sense but that doesn't seem to matter and you don't seem to have a problem with it, so why keep repeating it here?

Again, because it drives down the wages of American workers, drives up housing costs and ties up social service resources that should be available for American citizens.

First, there you go again, using another word that no longer has any objective meaning. WTF is an "American" anything? Is it anyone who just happens to "live" or to "be" in a certain geographic area; is it anyone who supports your fat orange bastard messiah? Please explain precisely what an "American" is. Second, to the extent your barely asserted claim has any validity at all in some meaningful context, the net damage is insignificant compared to the damage being done (to any such "'American' citizens") by way of profligate "government" spending on militarism, warmongering, "foreign aid," etc., the "government" supported health care extortion racket, confiscatory communist property tax, etc.

What would happen to your spaghetti armed ass if you went to Mexico or Honduras or Red China illegally?

Apparently unlike you, Rich, since I personally have respect for the laws of other countries - countries whose governments haven't maliciously violated my natural rights and whose governments haven't officially repudiated the rule of law that is - that's something that I wouldn't do, thus your question is moot.

A more relevant question is this: What will happen to your spaghetti armed ass when your lawless fat orange bastard messiah brings the missiles down on "your country" contaminating the biosphere with a lethal amount of cesium-137 and Strontium-90?

Is it possible you’re this stupid?

Since I'm not the one here who supports the doomed evil empire of the fat orange bastard and its jew handlers, probably not, knucklehead.

And it has zero to do with Trump. The immigration laws have been on the books forever. You can’t be this stupid. It’s impossible.

Well look who's talking. Yo shit for brains, as I've endeavored to point out to you, by word and deed, your fat orange bastard messiah has officially, demonstrably repudiated the u.s. constitution and the rule of law. Are the "immigration laws" somehow any more valid than the "supreme law of the land" i.e. the constitution? No, they're not.

And that's all the time I have for your statist bullshit at the moment.
Replies: @Rich, @Truth Vigilante
Rich says:
January 13, 2026 at 3:15 am GMT
@muh muh
https://i.postimg.cc/T3cdYbDx/3shots.png
Replies: @Rich, @Tucker
Wrong. Is everyone an idiot? They released the video of him shooting from the front of the car. There’s a photo of the bullet hole in the windshield. Your fake, kneeling on his throat, hands up, eating skittles nonsense isn’t going to fly. Why are you lying?
Rich says:
January 13, 2026 at 3:13 am GMT • 100 Words
@Avery
@notanonymoushere

And the cop didn’t even ask how many kids she was neglecting at home before he shot her?

How do you know she was neglecting her children*?
How do you know they were not in school, or daycare, or babysitter's care?

And why does that matter anyway?
When did it become a death sentence in US to supposedly neglect your children?

The shooting does not appear to be justified.
The agent could have easily jumped out of the way.
He was not boxed in: he had plenty of room to move out of the way.
He was heard to say “Fucking bitch.” after he shot her: this indicates he was predisposed to visit violence upon her; he was clearly looking for a confrontation.

Here is what the GAO guidelines say:

ICE’s directive page was temporarily unavailable online, but a 2023 Government Accountability Office report quotes ICE’s guidance directly.

The GAO quote reads: “Firearms shall not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles, vessels, aircraft or other conveyances, except when deadly force is authorized or under the limited circumstances in the policy.” That language mirrors guidance used by the Department of Justice and the FBI, which also say officers should not discharge firearms solely to disable moving vehicles and may do so only when occupants present an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm and no reasonable alternative exists.

Law enforcement experts say shooting at moving vehicles raises high risks of ricochet and collateral harm and is widely discouraged except in narrow, life‑threatening circumstances. Federal guidance aims to limit such discharges and require documentation and review when they occur.

Wasn't jumping out of the way a reasonable alternative?
He just had to shoot her dead?
Give me a break.

In a recent ruling SCOTUS reversed a long standing rule that allowed cops to use deadly force against fleeing "suspects" based on 'moment of the threat'. In this ruling 23-1239 Barnes v. Felix (05/15/2025)

unanimous Supreme Court decision rejecting the “moment-of-the-threat doctrine” in evaluating claims of excessive force by law enforcement. The justices found that only considering an officer’s immediate reaction to a perceived threat violates the Supreme Court’s own rule that police use of force incidents must be considered under the “totality of the circumstances” leading up to them.

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*
According to the web, she had one 14 y.o., one 12 y.o. and one 6 y.o.
Replies: @Rich, @Poupon Marx
Her ex-husband was awarded custody of her two older children. A husband gets custody only 20% of the time in a divorce and only for very good reasons. Both she and her lesbian lover left her child alone so they could feel like heroes harrrassing and impeding law enforcement in legal pursuit of their duties. Sounds like “neglect” to me.

You are obviously completely unfamiliar with the law. It is settled law that a sworn law enforcement officer can shoot at a suspect fleeing in a vehicle. That’s not my opinion, that’s the law. In this case, the shot went through the windshield, which means the officer was in front of her. That’s an open and shut case. According to the law. Whether you “feel” it should be different or not.

• LOL: littlereddot
• Replies: @Commentator Mike
@Rich
I thought the husband said that he now has to drive and fly to pick up his kids so how are they in his custody?

Also, it was reported that she had driven one kid to school before turning up to where she was killed.
, @Wokechoke
@Rich
This is all politics and it was an own goal the ICE agent just scored.
it’s a pity it happened in Minnesota too because that’s where ICE could get at African detainees most easily. Now? Lol. The force will simply be in confrontations with politically motivated citizens instead of picking up Somalis.
, @Avery
@Rich

It is settled law that a sworn law enforcement officer can shoot at a suspect fleeing in a vehicle.

If you would provide some references from law journals, case law and such.
You -- and you alone -- making that assertion doesn't cut it.
Even if you were an attorney.

Here are some references that contradict your assertion:

1) https://www.justice.gov/jm/1-16000-department-justice-policy-use-force#1-16.200

Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle

Agent deliberately moved in front of the vehicle to block it: completely reckless.

2) https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/shooting-fleeing-felon-state-law

UNDER TRADITIONAL RULE, FATAL SHOOTINGS BY POLICE OFFICERS OF SUSPECTED FELONS WHO ARE FLEEING FROM ARREST GENERALLY HAVE BEEN HELD PRIVILEGED AND THUS NOT SUBJECT TO LEGAL SANCTION

Suspected felons only.
She was no felon.

3) https://verdict.justia.com/2026/01/09/the-legality-of-deadly-force-three-critical-questions-about-the-ice-shooting-in-minneapolis

The legality of the ICE agent’s use of force in this case will likely turn on three specific facts: whether the agent made a reckless tactical decision by stepping in front of the vehicle, whether Ms. Good’s actions were reasonably perceived as presenting an imminent threat of death or great bodily harm to the agent or others, and whether the agent could have reasonably resolved any threat presented by the vehicle’s forward movement by stepping out of the way instead of shooting.

(by Seth W. Stoughton is a Professor of Law at the University of South Carolina Joseph F. Rice School of Law, where he serves as the Faculty Director of the Excellence in Policing & Public Safety Program.)

He could have easily stepped out of the way instead of opening fire.

Both she and her lesbian lover

You have read my posts for some time, as I have yours.
You know quite well what my foundational beliefs are on such matters.
But we are discussing the ICE agent's actions that led to killing a human being.
Not the victim's lifestyle.

We are not like "them", but unchecked power will eventually get to people like you and I.

"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" Lord Acton
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Alastair Crooke • January 12, 2026 • 184 Comments • Reply

Rich says:
January 13, 2026 at 1:21 am GMT • 100 Words
@Mr-Chow-Mein
Trump obviously suffers from an inferiority complex due to the perception of cowardice in the male line.
His grandfather dodged conscription into the Germany army by coming to America, Trump's father seemed to have no participation in the American war efforts and Trump himself got out of Vietnam service with a doctors certificate.
That's why Trump is a bully and a Braggart to compensate his feelings of inferiority. Trump uses superlatives to describe everything...its hiding a yellow streak he has always been trying to outrun.
Why would Americans let this guy rule them? Why would you send your child to die at his command?
Replies: @Rich, @Blodgie, @Ed Case
No Americans died during the arrest and capture of Maduro. Do you know how many Americans died under Biden during the Aghan withdrawal? Do facts matter? Do you think Americans would prefer to serve under Kamala? Or Hilary? Or whatever homosexual person of color they run in the next election?

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• Troll: A_Hand_Hidden
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@Rich
No Americans should serve under such a cowardly class of leaders from Donkey to Elephant.
, @Mot
@Rich
That we know of or they'll admit. Hell! We've been told all manner of "super soldier" bullshit for the past few days. And bullshit it is.
, @Mr-Chow-Mein
@Rich
And what is Lindsay Graham?
Lindsay cusses out everyone but have you heard him ever cuss out the faggots?
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, @Monte Cristo
@Rich
Agree, only I would add that both political parties are wings of the Jew supremacy bird.
Rich says:
January 13, 2026 at 1:17 am GMT • 100 Words
@Tennessee Jed
@Rich
Trump isn't just serving Israel he's taking direct orders.
Replies: @Rich
Who was president on Oct 8, 2023? Wasn’t Trump. Who was president during the 2014 Gaza War? Wasn’t Trump. Who was president during the 2006 Israeli-Hezbollah War? I’ll give you a hint, it wasn’t Trump. And guess who was president during the 1996 Israeli-Hezbollah War? I can keep going, all the way back to 1948 if you want. American support of Israel is total and crosses all political lines. Knowing that, and knowing that democrats hate White people, seems pretty clear who any White person shoild support.

• Replies: @Tennessee Jed
@Rich
That was fun playing guess who the president was! It's no secret all presidents work for Israel, but Trump works exclusively for Israel and U.S. Zionists. Any major action he has taken to date has only benefited the Jews (bombing Iran and Yemen etc.). And I know democrats hate White people probably almost as much as Jews hate White people.
, @Monte Cristo
@Rich
Though we aren't voting our way out of this, and both political parties are run by Talmudic Jews, Republicans by the Zionist wing, Democrats by the Communist wing, Trump is not our savior.

Machiavelli was correct; there is no good government with bad people, and there is no bad government with good people.

We have a bad government because we are bad people.

"Machiavel, discoursing on these matters, finds virtue to be so essentially necessary to the establishment and preservation of liberty, that he thinks it impossible for a corrupted people to set up a good government, or for a tyranny to be introduced if they be virtuous; and makes this conclusion, 'That where the matter (that is, the body of the people) is not corrupted, tumults and disorders do not hurt; and where it is corrupted, good laws do no good:' which being confirmed by reason and experience, I think no wise man has ever contradicted him."
Algernon Sidney

Finally, the exploitation in Latin America has been going on for some time, some say right from when the West and Cortez came to the Aztecs over 400 years ago. 90% of the transatlantic slave trade was to South America, if what sources I've read say is correct. And it was far more brutal than the environment for slaves in America.

Also, a highly recommended book on the intrigues Jewish interests have been up to in South America, though the author never references the JQ, is John Perkins' "Confessions Of An Economic Hitman." His stories of traveling to leaders of South America on behalf of shadowy U.S. interests and offering infrastructure loans are fascinating. The leaders who wouldn't agree to sabotage their countries with crippling loans were threatened, and then assassination attempts. If these weren't successful, there were coup attempts, and if this wasn't successful, the United States military got involved, as we just saw occur with Maduro in Venezuela.

https://ia601907.us.archive.org/2/items/ConfessionsOfAnEconomicHitmanJohnPerkins/Confessions%20of%20an%20Economic%20Hitman%20-%20John%20Perkins.pdf

There is no doubt in my mind that every single American military conflict since the 1898 Spanish-American War has been by and for Jewish interests.
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The Trump Doctrine: "They Have It. We Want It. We Take It."

The Rubicon Crossed – Team Trump’s Nihilistic Anti-values Paradigm

Rich says:
January 13, 2026 at 1:04 am GMT • 100 Words
@Harold Smith
@Rich

You can’t just illegally enter a country and expect not to be kicked out when caught.

Apparently that's not always the case. Maybe these silly invaders feel that if the u.s. "government" can routinely illegally go into their countries and kill them, steal their resources, destroy their infrastructure, overthrow their governments, kidnap their presidents, etc., then they should be able to at least come here and do whatever they want. I know it's probably ridiculous to suggest, but maybe instead of being a lawless asshole the fat orange bastard et al. should try leading by good legal and moral example for a change.
Replies: @muh muh, @Rich
They can “feel” anything they want. If they enter the US illegally they can, and should, be deported. They drive down wages of American workers and drive up the cost of housing as well as become a burden on social services that should be available for citizens. I guess that if you hate American citizens, you’ll be all-in on the illegals.

• Thanks: Trinity
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@Rich

They can “feel” anything they want.

Yep, or anything that's forced on them by imperial invaders, for example.

If they enter the US illegally they can, and should, be deported.

Who are you (or your messianic fat orange bastard) to say what's "illegal"?

They drive down wages of American workers and drive up the cost of housing as well as become a burden on social services that should be available for citizens.

Seriously? As if dropping bombs on them, stealing their resources, seizing their assets, pirating their oil tankers, destabilizing and overthrowing their governments, etc., is completely irrelevant to the situation. BTW what's driving up the cost of housing in the u.s. is primarily government corruption i.e. endless money printing, out of control communist property taxation, etc. not "illegals."

I guess that if you hate American citizens, you’ll be all-in on the illegals.

Well you fat orange bastard supporters obviously hate America and yet you're not "all-in on the illegals" so it seems you're wrong about that.
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Rich says:
January 13, 2026 at 12:26 am GMT • 100 Words
@Tennessee Jed
@Rich
That is unless you're a dishwasher at a Trump hotel.
Replies: @Rich
More BS. I did work at Trump’s father’s buildings (he had all American workers) and members of my union did a lot of work in Donald’s buildings. All union, all American. Don’t buy into the leftist writers who despise Trump for his White skin and White voters. The whole anti-ICE scam is just an attemlt to erode his support and bring the anti-White dem party back to power.

• Replies: @Tennessee Jed
@Rich
Your loyalty to your former employer is admirable but that doesn't change the fact that Trump is a disaster. What support? His followers are abandoning him like the Titanic. He's turned the U.S. into the leper colony of the world.
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Alastair Crooke • January 12, 2026 • 184 Comments • Reply

Rich says:
January 12, 2026 at 11:06 pm GMT
@Understory
@Rich
Grow up. Trump is serving the Jews.
Replies: @Rich
Who was Biden serving? What about Obama? Bush II? Clinton? Stop being naive. 99% of elected American politicians openly state they’re zionists.

• Replies: @Tennessee Jed
@Rich
Trump isn't just serving Israel he's taking direct orders.
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, @David Martin
@Rich
And Dieter Weiss and I wrote "Bad, Bad Uncle Sam" quite a few years ago:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/G5NO1fUcWXOo

The Trump Doctrine: "They Have It. We Want It. We Take It."

The Rubicon Crossed – Team Trump’s Nihilistic Anti-values Paradigm

Rich says:
January 12, 2026 at 11:03 pm GMT
@Ron Unz
@Greg Garros

But the Trump Admin is going after criminals primarily when it comes to illegals. I think this is categorically different than the incidents when ICE has abducted college students exercising their right to free speech.

Well, I'll admit I haven't been following the issue, but I don't think that's true.

For example, here's a report that just came out from the Cato Institute. They're libertarians, but I don't think they'd just make up their statistics.

"5% of People Detained By ICE Have Violent Convictions, 73% No Convictions"

https://www.cato.org/blog/5-ice-detainees-have-violent-convictions-73-no-convictions
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Why does it matter if they had any convictions? If they’re here illegally they are supposed to be deported. When did this become controversil? You can’t just illegally enter a country and expect not to be kicked out when caught.

• Agree: JPS
• Replies: @Tennessee Jed
@Rich
That is unless you're a dishwasher at a Trump hotel.
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, @Harold Smith
@Rich

You can’t just illegally enter a country and expect not to be kicked out when caught.

Apparently that's not always the case. Maybe these silly invaders feel that if the u.s. "government" can routinely illegally go into their countries and kill them, steal their resources, destroy their infrastructure, overthrow their governments, kidnap their presidents, etc., then they should be able to at least come here and do whatever they want. I know it's probably ridiculous to suggest, but maybe instead of being a lawless asshole the fat orange bastard et al. should try leading by good legal and moral example for a change.
Replies: @muh muh, @Rich
Rich says:
January 12, 2026 at 11:00 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Greg Garros
@mulga mumblebrain
Very funny, troll.
I don't support ICE when they unconstitutionally arrest students and immigrants for exercising free speech and assembly/petition rights. But I also don't support vigilante mobs taunting and obstructing ICE when it is performing the function it is required by law to perform - detaining illegal aliens with criminal convictions.
Perhaps you enjoyed the mass destruction and chaos in our cities in 2020, but many of us did not and would like to avoid that.
I'm not a legal expert, but I think that Agent Ross should be prosecuted for what he did. But if there is a conspiracy to drum up chaos over immigration enforcement, 'ICE Watch' is certainly a central piece of it.
Replies: @Rich
The Supreme Court has ruled, and federal law has given law enforcement officers the right to shoot a fleeing suspect. This is settled law. The hole from the bullet is in the windshield, she was shot from the front. The media tried to make it look like the bullet was fired from the side until the full video came out. Now some are pretending the video showing the shooter was in front and was hit by the car doesn’t exist. Ross had every right to fire the shot and he shouldn’t be charged. You can disagree with these facts all you want, but the facts are still the facts.

• Replies: @Dnought
@Rich

The Supreme Court has ruled, and federal law has given law enforcement officers the right to shoot a fleeing suspect. This is settled law.

Only if it the cop has probable cause to believe the fleeing suspect poses a significant threat to cause death or serious injury to the cop himself or to others.
, @Bork Bork Bork
@Rich

The hole from the bullet is in the windshield, she was shot from the front.

It appears that she was shot from a position in front of the left frontal headlight of the car. So the guy was not really in danger. He intentionally went in front of the car so that he could get an excuse to shoot her in case she moved the car forward. When she crept forward with the car he moved out of the way while shooting her in the face. But this event exposes an undiagnosed problem: The shooter was an ex zogbot who had done at least one tour in Iraq.

In Iraq, american soldiers causally shoot at civilian cars that come too close to their convoys, or civilian cars that approach their roadblocks too fast etc etc.. There are no consequences because they can always say "we thought it was a car IED". This guy just acted according to his _military_ training as if he was back in Iraq. You cant deprogram these people. They are permanently damaged. They shouldnt have guns.

Another problem with ex zogbots is that they tend to have undiagnosed traumatic brain injury. Its caused by repeated concussions and strong single concussions. This is very common in artillery crews and also very common in all kinds of infantry. In the case of infantry, it is caused by the use of the Carl-Gustaf 84 mm recoilless rifle and the AT-4 which is the disposable one shot version of the Carl-Gustaf. The CG is used as a "door knocker" for breaking down doors and walls. This is a recoilless rifle, not a rocket propelled grenade launcher, so the overpressure is quite strong, and hits from both front and back.

Being smacked by the strong shockwave of an IED will also cause concussion and TBI. The shooter in this case probably has subclinical TBI. One common symptom of TBI is "unreliableness", a nebuluos term that indicates increased antisocial behavior, forgetfulness and uninhibited reckless behavior. The thing is that TBI exists on a gliding scale, and it is only diagnosed when its so very obvious that you are crippled by it. All the cases of subclinical TBI go undiagnosed.

This is a serious US law enforcement problem because they intentionally hire former zogbots. So there are tens of thousands of these walking bombs all across America, equipped and ordained to shoot at regular americans. A ban on hiring former army and USMC military into law enforcement as well as replacing the ones presently employed there would be very effective at reducing the number of shootings.
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, @No You Can't Shoot Fleeing Suspects
@Rich
Your comment is not true. It is an oversimplification and misleading as stated.

The U.S. Supreme Court has not given law enforcement officers a blanket "right to shoot a fleeing suspect." Instead, key rulings and federal standards place strict limits on when deadly force can be used.

The landmark case is Tennessee v. Garner (1985), where the Supreme Court ruled that under the Fourth Amendment (which governs seizures, including use of force in arrests), police may not use deadly force against a fleeing suspect unless:
• It is necessary to prevent escape, and
• The officer has probable cause to believe the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.

The Court explicitly struck down older "fleeing felon" rules (common in some states) that allowed shooting any fleeing felony suspect, even if unarmed and non-violent. As the decision stated: "A police officer may not seize an unarmed, nondangerous suspect by shooting him dead."

Subsequent cases like Graham v. Connor (1989) reinforced that all use of force must be "objectively reasonable" based on the totality of circumstances, with deadly force reserved for situations involving imminent serious harm.

There is no broad federal law or statute granting officers an unrestricted "right" to shoot fleeing suspects simply for fleeing. Federal guidance (e.g., Department of Justice policies) and most agency rules echo this: deadly force is prohibited when used solely to prevent escape without an imminent threat of death or serious injury.

In short, flight alone does not justify deadly force. The law requires a reasonable belief of a serious, immediate danger, not just that someone is running away.

Your comment reverses the actual legal reality by implying broad permission where the Court and federal standards impose significant restrictions.
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Rich says:
January 12, 2026 at 6:59 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Joe Levantine
@Rich
“ This is Standard Operating Procedure and has been since Shay’s Rebellion.”

Do you mean in the far West? I thought we are in the 21st century.
Replies: @Rich
What does the century have to do with anything? What’s the far West? When Russia invaded Georgia was that the far West? How about the Second Congo War? Is that the far West? What about Azerbaijan attacking Armenia? Another far West conflict? Human nature. So far, the Venezuelan operation has had minimal bloodshed, no blood has spilled over Greenland. Everyone just needs to take it down a notch.

• Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)
@Rich
"...minimal bloodshed" = ~80 brown-tinted commies blown away by the Imperial Special Forces.

Not like it was an anti-ICE activist in Freedom's Land.
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, @Joe Levantine
@Rich
The U.S. is supposed to be a society that bases itself on the law of the land. The lady who got shot by an ICE imbecile was not supposed to be there and should have ceded to the instructions of the ICE agents. But clearly the goon was not acting in self defense. He could have shot the tyres of the car or simply taken the number of the plate for later prosecution. He has appointed himself judge, jury and executioner. In the Wild West even sheriffs took the due care of giving a suspect the right to a fair trial.

This is a slippery slope, that left unchecked, could lead to civil war.
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Alastair Crooke • January 12, 2026 • 184 Comments • Reply

Rich says:
January 12, 2026 at 2:40 pm GMT • 100 Words
Was the Rubicon crossed when Bush I flew into Panama and took Noriega? How about when Biden prosecuted and imprisoned Honduran president Hernandez? Did Western “values” end when America told Iraq or Grenada what do? All this hand-wringing and finger wagging is nonsensical. Everything that Trump is doing is exactly what America and every other powerful nation on earth has been doing forever. Everybody take a deep breath.

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• Replies: @Understory
@Rich
Grow up. Trump is serving the Jews.
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@Rich

Was the Rubicon crossed when Bush I flew into Panama and took Noriega? How about when Biden prosecuted and imprisoned Honduran president Hernandez? Did Western “values” end when America told Iraq or Grenada what do?

ABSOLUTELY!

However, the other presidents – certainly disgraceful by their acts and failures to act –NEVER:

Campaigned specifically on a platform of no more foreign interventionism, no more nation building and no more regime change wars! While simultaneously launching as many airstrikes in five months as the former president launched during his entire four-year term and waging war against seven countries while threatening war against many more viz, Colombia, Mexico, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, Brazil.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/12/ny-times-expose-cia-fights-russia-trumps-peace-deal-runs-on-illusion.html.

https://news.antiwar.com/2025/12/31/us-bombed-seven-countries-in-2025-as-trump-dramatically-expanded-airstrikes/

Campaigned on a promise to reduce military spending by 50% and then upon entering office, announced plans to increase military spending by 50%.

Ordered the United States to withdraw from 66 international organizations, accelerating Washington’s retreat from multilateral cooperation.

Threatened to invade a NATO country (Greenland) AND despite the U.S. being afforded unfettered access to its territory for security purposes.

Replied to a question from reporters about the limits, if any, on his power and replied: “Yeah, there is one thing; my own morality; my own mind. It’s the only thing that can stop me.” And “I don’t need international law; I’m not looking to hurt people,” as hundreds of people were killed during a nighttime raid (Venezuela) and hundreds more in bombings.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-unlimited-power-international-law?utm_source=Common+Dreams&utm_campaign=bc603305fc-Top+News+%7C+Fri.+1%2F9%2F26&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-c56d0ea580-601465935

Declared themselves the “acting president” of a foreign country (Venezuela).

Ad infinitum . . .

All this hand-wringing and finger wagging is nonsensical. Everything that Trump is doing is exactly what America and every other powerful nation on earth has been doing forever. Everybody take a deep breath.

Nothing to see here . . . move along now! The world was evil before Trump and the world will be evil after Trump! So what if the world is more evil during Trump? Everybody take a deep breath, relax and enjoy the ride!

Trump supporters would make excuses for literally anything about Trump; literally anything!

https://caityjohnstone.medium.com/they-kidnapped-maduro-because-the-world-is-ruled-by-unaccountable-tyrants-a3d443642dd4?source=user_profile_page---------0-------------c40ec5bece47----------------------

Is there anything more embarrassing or self-debasing than continuing to be a Trump supporter in 2026? If you supported Trump’s campaign platform in 2024, you should hate Donald Trump after 2025. If you support Trump in 2026, you are shouting to the world: “Thank you Daddy Trump! Please, shit on our faces and the U.S. Constitution more!”

https://caityjohnstone.medium.com/israel-bans-aid-groups-for-the-same-reason-it-bans-journalists-and-other-notes-e46fbb36f691?source=user_profile_page---------0-------------c40ec5bece47----------------------
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@Rich

Everything that Trump is doing is exactly what America and every other powerful nation on earth has been doing forever.

Which president before Trump executed a dragnet which imprisoned and threatened with deportation lawful residents simply for exercising their right to freedom of speech?

Which president before Trump withheld millions of dollars from universities solely because Jews had their feelings hurt there?

And which president before Trump oversaw a change in federal rule like this?

This Quiet DHS Rule Change Expands Federal Arrest Power Anywhere
A new administrative rule could give federal officers power to detain people far beyond federal buildings, even during peaceful protests or while filming ICE operations.

https://thejusticeguy.substack.com/p/this-quiet-dhs-rule-change-expands?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true

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@Rich
It's impossible to understand the collapse of the liberal globalist project without acknowledging what Obama has wrought. Indeed, since Crooke mentions US domestic politics I will point out that until and unless the Democrats stop the gaslighting about Strange and Sinister there will be no pause in their party's generational collapse.

Think about it, Crooke is knowledgable, erudite, and to my estimation, about decent man. Yet for some reason he remains radio silent on Obama despite the analogues being most on point to his argument. While Trump was denounced as Hitler by everyone who is anybody, foreign and domestic alike, even before he took the oath, Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize merely for striking the "moral pose" that appealed to the swells the world over.

The most salient analogy to Venezuela/Maduro is Libya/Gaddafi. Obama tore up the agreement reached between UK/US and Libya under Bush and ordered Libya destroyed and Gaddafi sodomized and murdered.

Crooke good and well knows the backstory on Ukraine. The more than 1M dead and the complete collapse of Ukraine as anything close to a functioning sovereign state is a direct line from what Obama ordered beginning in 2014. Yet it's the terrible, awful Trump who has ruined everything.
, @Same old same old
@Rich
So what you're saying is, Trump is at best no better than he spent years attacking as terrible, and we should accept that unquestioningly as fine and dandy.
If we're going to accept that, then it doesn't bode well for all his efforts to seize power and oppress Americans, does it? Isn't that power grab and brutality being fine predicated on the assertions he is "different" and "fighting for us," unlike all those other guys?
What a mess.
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The Trump Doctrine: "They Have It. We Want It. We Take It."

It’s In the Blood: The Trump Family's Multiple Generations of Fealty to Jewish Power

Rich says:
January 12, 2026 at 2:32 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Kapyong
@Rich
"Obey or Die!"

ICE agent Jonathan Ross murdered citizen Renee Good in because he got annoyed at her for 'disrespecting his authoritay'.

She was trying to leave, she backed-up while agents shouted conflicting commands at her, and Ross circled like a hyena with his phone recording her. (The wife apparently taunted Ross as fat.)

Ross pulled his gun before the car was moving forward. Good turned the wheel AWAY from Ross and slowly drove forward and right NOT hitting him.

He fired three shots at close range - the first went diagonally through the windshield, the final two shots went through the open drivers side window at a range of about 2 feet into her head while the car moved slowly passed him, killing her instantly. (Her dead body pushed down on the accelerator as the car moved away from everybody - falsely claimed as 'flooring it' towards the agent.)

Ross's immediate reaction was to call her dead body "fucking bitch" and then just walk off calmly, no remorse, no adrenalin, and not hurt at all.

He made a hand signal like winding-up to leave, and while observers shouted "don't let the murderer leave" he mumbled "call 911" (WTF ? he has 'Police' written on his chest, and has a radio) and hopped in his car and drove away. Whereabouts still unknown.

ICE refused to let a nearby physician help "I'm a physician" - "I don't care !". Her body was dragged out by arms and legs, and when the EMT finally arrived they had to walk in some distance because ICE blocked their vehicles.

The first blurry, distant, ambiguous footage looked like she DID hit him - but the many other close-up clear footages shows the opposite - he was never at risk, she never tried to hit him.

But now authorities blame her as a 'Domestic Terrorist' who tried to kill an agent. Trump claimed the agent was nearly killed and was fighting for his life in hospital. Vance claimed the ICE were just doing door-to-door searches for illegal immigrants (!) and we should pray for that brave agent.

This was an obvious outright deliberate cold-blooded murder right on camera by an agent who seemed to be just itching to kill someone for fun.

But the govt and various other evil monsters blame the victim to try and justify this horrible murder ! Agents can murder citizens who annoy them with 'Total Immunity', and the govt and many citizens will cheer them on.

" The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. "
Replies: @Rich
Your brain doesn’t work. You’re seeing what you want to see (or your brain is easily influenced by the media) and not understanding American law. The bullet hole is in the windshield, the video shows the officer in front of the suv, she was disobeying a lawful order to exit the vehicle. It is legal, according to the US Supreme court and federal law, to shoot a suspect fleeing in a vehicle. She is actually driving toward the officer. You are flat out wrong.

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• Troll: Pierre de Craon
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@Rich

It is legal, according to the US Supreme court and federal law, to shoot a suspect fleeing in a vehicle.

If you were half the Christian you boast of being, you would not have to be told that a knowingly stated half-truth is equivalent to a lie.
The US Department of Justice Policy on Use of Force is founded entirely on federal law and, to the applicable extent, on Federal and Supreme Court rulings. Here follow the applicable subsections on use of deadly force with respect to a suspect fleeing in a motor vehicle. One especially relevant clause has been highlighted.

1-16.200 - USE OF DEADLY FORCE AND PROHIBITED RESTRAINT TECHNIQUES
A. Deadly Force
Law enforcement and correctional officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force only when necessary, that is, when the officer has a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or to another person.
1. Deadly force may not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect.
2. Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force. [emphasis added]
3. If feasible and if to do so would not increase the danger to the officer or others, a verbal warning to submit to the authority of the officer shall be given prior to the use of deadly force.
4. Warning shots are not permitted outside of the prison context.

The ICE agent shooter in Minneapolis is a brother under the skin to the trigger-happy DC killers at Ruby Ridge and Waco. He committed murder as surely as did the Capitol policeman who killed Ashli Babbitt on January 6, 2021. Coincidentally, Trump was president then, too.
Commenter Rich and many others who are proud to be Trump loyalists in the Judaized USA seem to hold to a revised and improved version of the Fifth Commandment, one that now reads, "You shall not kill, unless someone really gets up your nose."
Replies: @Rich
, @Tundra
@Rich
On the contrary. DOJ's Justice Manual states that shooting a moving vehicle should not be exercised except in extreme cases and that there is no reasonable alternative, including getting out of the vehicle's way.
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Rich says:
January 12, 2026 at 1:31 pm GMT • 200 Words
It is completely legal for a law enforcement officer to shoot someone driving a vehicle at them. The Supreme Court has held that an officer is even permitted to fire at a fleeing vehicle. She was initially blocking the street, her car was parked at an angle, in an effort to impede law enforcement, a crime. She wasn’t “observing” she was actively participating in a communist effort to prevent the arrest and deportation of illegal aliens. She was trained by a radical left wing group and it’s very possible she was being paid for her actions. Why not just get out of the car? Why not obey a legal order from law enforcement?

The world didn’t come to an end when Bush I grabbed Noriega or Biden prosecuted former Honduran president Hernandez. Both on drug charges. The world didn’t end when the US annexed Hawaii or Alaska or Puerto Rico, it won’t end with Greenland. When General Pershing entered Mexico trying to chase down Villa, the sky didn’t fall. People are getting their panties in a twist for no reason at all. This is Standard Operating Procedure and has been since Shay’s Rebellion.

• Agree: SteveK9
• Replies: @Kapyong
@Rich
"Obey or Die!"

ICE agent Jonathan Ross murdered citizen Renee Good in because he got annoyed at her for 'disrespecting his authoritay'.

She was trying to leave, she backed-up while agents shouted conflicting commands at her, and Ross circled like a hyena with his phone recording her. (The wife apparently taunted Ross as fat.)

Ross pulled his gun before the car was moving forward. Good turned the wheel AWAY from Ross and slowly drove forward and right NOT hitting him.

He fired three shots at close range - the first went diagonally through the windshield, the final two shots went through the open drivers side window at a range of about 2 feet into her head while the car moved slowly passed him, killing her instantly. (Her dead body pushed down on the accelerator as the car moved away from everybody - falsely claimed as 'flooring it' towards the agent.)

Ross's immediate reaction was to call her dead body "fucking bitch" and then just walk off calmly, no remorse, no adrenalin, and not hurt at all.

He made a hand signal like winding-up to leave, and while observers shouted "don't let the murderer leave" he mumbled "call 911" (WTF ? he has 'Police' written on his chest, and has a radio) and hopped in his car and drove away. Whereabouts still unknown.

ICE refused to let a nearby physician help "I'm a physician" - "I don't care !". Her body was dragged out by arms and legs, and when the EMT finally arrived they had to walk in some distance because ICE blocked their vehicles.

The first blurry, distant, ambiguous footage looked like she DID hit him - but the many other close-up clear footages shows the opposite - he was never at risk, she never tried to hit him.

But now authorities blame her as a 'Domestic Terrorist' who tried to kill an agent. Trump claimed the agent was nearly killed and was fighting for his life in hospital. Vance claimed the ICE were just doing door-to-door searches for illegal immigrants (!) and we should pray for that brave agent.

This was an obvious outright deliberate cold-blooded murder right on camera by an agent who seemed to be just itching to kill someone for fun.

But the govt and various other evil monsters blame the victim to try and justify this horrible murder ! Agents can murder citizens who annoy them with 'Total Immunity', and the govt and many citizens will cheer them on.

" The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. "
Replies: @Rich
, @Joe Levantine
@Rich
“ This is Standard Operating Procedure and has been since Shay’s Rebellion.”

Do you mean in the far West? I thought we are in the 21st century.
Replies: @Rich

Jose Alberto Nino • January 9, 2026 • 199 Comments • Reply

A persistent excuse among Donald Trump supporters for his unwavering loyalty to Israeli priorities is the claim that he’s been unduly influenced by misguided counselors during his political tenure. But this comforting illusion overlooks a well-documented trail of deep involvement and backing from the Jewish community stretching back over 40 years, originating in ties that...

Rich says:
January 12, 2026 at 3:33 am GMT
@Trinity
@Truth Vigilante
Then Obama, hell we have had Jewish Presidents since Woodrow Wilson, good ole Ronnie Regan came out of Hollywood. Nuff said on that one. Then Jews have always been right be “our” President’s side like Morgantheau with FDR, Kissinger w/Nixon, etc.
Replies: @Rich
What about George Washingstein? And John Adamsky?
Rich says:
January 12, 2026 at 1:08 am GMT
@IronForge
@Madbadger
Holy Roman Empire? Over Europe? Crusades? Gregorian Calendar? Christmas on Dec25th?
History Fail.
Constantine SPONSORED the FORMULATION of Christianity at Nicea in the 4thCE.
The Chrestus, Solstice Worship of Birth/Sacrificial_Death/Resurrection (Mithras, Dionysus also adds the Spring and Fall Vineyard).
December 25th has been the Solstice on the Julian Calendar. Catholic Gregorians hijacked the Calendar, Dec25th Solstice Celebration.
The 4 Gospel Set, New Testament, and Christian Bible Appeared in History as arrangement components for the first time - shortly AFTER Nicea - also Commissioned by Constantine.
Constantinople? Fail again.
1stCentury AD/CE? That was declared&postdated 500yrs by a Christian Monk 200yrs after Nicea - to cover and "own for themselves" the Theological Discourse of Non-Jewish worshippers of the God addressed about in the Sumerian-Israeli Text (Genesis: Creation up to Abraham; Book of Job - Abraham and Job are from Ur(Sumer)).
That's why there are no records of Christianity - no positive/neutral/negative - in the 1stCE.
All Bullshit, All a snare to entrap Ethical Theists, Deists, and Spiritualists. A hijack/knockoff of Judaism - copying the Jewish Bible, their Messiah, exclusive access to their "God" - and claiming that the Jewish & Judaism have strayed from God and sre now "replaced" by the Christian Church...
The "Proto-Christians" Apologists referred to in the 2nd~3rd CE were "Chrestus Worshippers" - Chrest meaning "good', "useful"; and were rejected by the Roman Public.
Iyesu Christos - isn't a Jewish Name... ROTFL!
Nazareth wasn't around until the 3rd Century...
Jesusneverexisted.com should provide some references
Read a Book!
Replies: @Rich, @rockatansky, @dimples
“Many are called, few are chosen.” Mathew 22:14. You just ain’t one of the chosen. Hopefully you like it hot.
Rich says:
January 11, 2026 at 3:27 pm GMT • 100 Words
Fred Trump was a German-American real estate developer in a city dominated by Jews after International Judaism had publicly declared war on Germany. What did you expect him to do? Had he marched with the Bund, he’d have been run out of business. Choosing to rent to Jews in an already Jewish part of the city, and becoming friendly with their leaders, was just smart business. You might not do it, but now his kid is president, so I guess it paid off.

• Replies: @Monte Cristo
@Rich
Just like the Protocols say, only leaders we choose will be elected.

NYC has the largest population of Jews of any city on earth, 4 million.
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, @Zumbuddi
@Rich
The Dutch migrated from Netherlands and started New York city, then Germans migrated to NYC and built it and dominated it --- John Augustus Roebling, German-born American civil engineer, began construction of Brooklyn bridge, which his son completed.

Samuel Untermyer, "Hitler's Bitterest Foe," supposed promoter of the Scofield Bible; zealous promoter of economic boycott of Germany to cause its economy to fail -- Untermyer was an extremely wealthy man, his wealth acquired through his law practice that catered, predominantly, to German-American entrepreneurs in NYC, especially in the beer industry.

It's frequently claimed that Untermyer paid off a woman who threatened to blackmail Woodrow Wilson. Untermyer's price for the $40,000 payment was the appointment of Louis Brandeis to Supreme Court.
Neverbeen says:
January 11, 2026 at 12:44 pm GMT
@quasi_verbatim
This explains a great deal about Mamdami's support base.

Over seventy-five years ago Douglas Reed in "Far and Wide" described New York as "an Asiatic city" and he wasn't wrong.
Replies: @Neverbeen
Mamdani’s base is white women. And literally anyone who wanted a candidate that possibly wasn’t completely owned by Israel.

• Disagree: Rich

Kidnapped By the Washington Cartel

Eric Striker • January 8, 2026 • 114 Comments • Reply

Washington’s snatching of Venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro and his visibly brutalized wife, Cilia, has been widely condemned as naked criminality. Supporters of US interventionism have taken to justifying the attack under the guise of the Monroe, or “Donroe,” Doctrine, while leaders of the American left such as Bernie Sanders have largely ignored the moral implications...

Rich says:
January 10, 2026 at 8:57 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Half Norwegian
@Rich
MIGA is profoundly anti-white
Replies: @Rich
Both major parties fully support Israel. The left controlled the Presidency and Senate on Oct 8, 2023 and fully supported the Israeli action in Gaza. There are only a handful of American politicians who aren’t zionists. But, the femocrat party passes laws, issues executive orders and regulations that openly discriminate against Whites. Trump, and his republicans have ended these executive orders and regulations and are fighting anti-White discrimination in the courts. Republicans in general, and Trump in particular, aren’t hostile to White Americans. That’s better than a stick in the face.
Rich says:
January 9, 2026 at 2:39 pm GMT • 200 Words
I’m amazed at how easily people are brainwashed by the media to hate the new Goldstein, “maga”. One after another, commenters deride this group and mock their low IQ. It’s laughable. In America you get two choices, one is worse than the other. You have to pick the better devil. The left in the US had a $25 million bounty on Maduro, plus sanctions. Now, Maduro has been removed and the new “president” (probably a cia asset) has begun making deals with Trump. Prisoners released, negotiations begun. If anyone actually cares about Venezuela, this is going to end with a lifting of the sanctions, US corporate investment and a better life for the people. Stop being brainwashed. Step back, take a deep breath, and watch what happens. It’s not a movie, it’s not over in 93 minutes.

And before everyone starts writing, “maga, maga, maga” I consider Trump too far to the left. I appreciate that he doesn’t hate White folks and has cut some taxes and regulations as well as his closure of the border.

• Replies: @Half Norwegian
@Rich
MIGA is profoundly anti-white
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The Precursors for War Are in Place. Iran Is the Peg to Intense Political Jockeying to Define the Post-Trump Future

Alastair Crooke • January 5, 2026 • 138 Comments • Reply

At the 30 December meeting with Netanyahu and his team, President Trump publicly committed to attacking Iran. At the 30 December meeting with Netanyahu and his team, President Trump publicly committed to attacking Iran: If they continue with their ballistic missile program, ‘Yes’. And for their nuclear: ‘Immediate’. “We’ll knock the hell out of them“,...

Rich says:
January 9, 2026 at 1:08 pm GMT
@saoirse
@Rich
Your feigned astonishment is as transparent and stupid as your overall astuteness. You've never had a woman. How could you? While Saint Mommy was performing her daily genuflection to her jew god you were in the rectory becoming an 'altered' boy.
You can have the last word. Your fragile ego demands it.
Replies: @Rich
I’m married over twenty years with 4 kids. My sainted mother passed away last year, thanks for asking after her.

I thought “saoirse” was Gaelic for “Sarah”. And you write with a very effeminate take on the world. I understand, it takes all kinds.

In 2023, the Somali Diaspora in America Sent Back $1.7 Billion in Remittances, More Than the Budget of the Somali Government... Which Was Largely Funded Via USAID

Paul Kersey • January 7, 2026 • 23 Comments • Reply

Exporting a Somali diaspora into the tolerant West, where decades of centralized teaching and an entertainment industry pumping out content against White privilege, White supremacy, structural inequality and implicit bias plus the unique evils of colonialism have birthed a paralyzing form of White Lethargy at our dispossession, to exert influence while farming remittances in America...

Rich says:
January 9, 2026 at 4:27 am GMT • 100 Words
@ServesyouallWhite
@Rich
White folks don’t care if a criminal is the same race as them, we still consider them garbage.
That only is true for 'peon-level' criminal whites. Whites tend to have blind racial loyalty or at least lesser regard towards the evil of more elite Whites, especially when compared with a criminal colored.
Bill Gates as opposed to Obama for instance.
Whites hands down (even here on TUR) put Gates on 'the backburner of afterthought' whenever Obama enters an article, discussion, whatever, despite Bill Gates schemes (which place Whites in lethal danger) that literally make him a real life James Bond villain. whereas Obama is merely an Elite White/jew invention who was told what harm to cause.
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I don’t think so. The very wealthy Whites I’ve known have zero racial loyalty. They’re all cutthroats who’d sell out their mothers. They worship Moloch and he gets all their love. They usually treat me decently, because I’m fixing things for them and that’s a relationship they understand, but if they think you’re any kind if threat, they’ll take you out even if you’re their first cousin. Of course, I’m from NY and have only had contact with uber-wealthy NYers, maybe they’re different where you live.

The most racially loyal Whites I’ve met are those who’ve grown up around blacks and had to fight them to survive. And middle to working class Southern Whites, I never met any rich Whites from down South.

The Precursors for War Are in Place. Iran Is the Peg to Intense Political Jockeying to Define the Post-Trump Future

Alastair Crooke • January 5, 2026 • 138 Comments • Reply

Rich says:
January 9, 2026 at 3:04 am GMT
@saoirse
@Rich

Now look here young lady

I'm not a lady doofus. I'm not even female.

Personal attacks are one thing, and can be funny, but attacking little old ladies is very bad taste

You start with the personal attacks I finish them..... in spades!

Now reflect on what you wrote, then come back and apologize

No! Keep clutching your fake pearls and piss off.
Replies: @Rich
You’re not a chick? Now that’s funny. Hilarious. Thanks for the laugh. Really. But you still shouldn’t do the mother jokes, that’s a colored thing. Again, thanks. I can’t believe you’re not a female. Hilarious

• Replies: @saoirse
@Rich
Your feigned astonishment is as transparent and stupid as your overall astuteness. You've never had a woman. How could you? While Saint Mommy was performing her daily genuflection to her jew god you were in the rectory becoming an 'altered' boy.
You can have the last word. Your fragile ego demands it.
Replies: @Rich

In 2023, the Somali Diaspora in America Sent Back $1.7 Billion in Remittances, More Than the Budget of the Somali Government... Which Was Largely Funded Via USAID

Paul Kersey • January 7, 2026 • 23 Comments • Reply

Rich says:
January 8, 2026 at 4:32 pm GMT • 100 Words
@do chere
Naturally, as a white man the author doesn't know the evil reality of racism and shouldn't bemoan the fact that those on the recieving end aren't taking it lying down.. For the record, I am black and I am against the cited criminality on the part of some in the Somali community in the US.. Still, calling them "garbage", shows Trump himself is behaving like a thug.. (from Johannesburg)
Replies: @Rich
How does calling a group of criminals “garbage” make someone a “thug”? Do blacks not believe that criminals are “garbage”? Do you guys automatically take the side of a criminal if he’s the same skin color as you? White folks don’t care if a criminal is the same race as them, we still consider them garbage. In fact, I’d venture to guess it’s only blacks who take the side of criminals who share their race. Wonder why?

• Replies: @GeneralRipper
@Rich

Do you guys automatically take the side of a criminal if he’s the same skin color as you?

LOL

Great post, Rich.
The vast majority of American Blacks certainly do.
It's called Tribalism.
They learned it from Jews.
The only people who are expressly forbidden from engaging in tribalism are Whites.
If that happens it's referred to as Racism/White Supremacy.
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, @ServesyouallWhite
@Rich
White folks don’t care if a criminal is the same race as them, we still consider them garbage.
That only is true for 'peon-level' criminal whites. Whites tend to have blind racial loyalty or at least lesser regard towards the evil of more elite Whites, especially when compared with a criminal colored.
Bill Gates as opposed to Obama for instance.
Whites hands down (even here on TUR) put Gates on 'the backburner of afterthought' whenever Obama enters an article, discussion, whatever, despite Bill Gates schemes (which place Whites in lethal danger) that literally make him a real life James Bond villain. whereas Obama is merely an Elite White/jew invention who was told what harm to cause.
Replies: @Rich, @Sick n' Tired

The Precursors for War Are in Place. Iran Is the Peg to Intense Political Jockeying to Define the Post-Trump Future

Alastair Crooke • January 5, 2026 • 138 Comments • Reply

Rich says:
January 8, 2026 at 1:43 pm GMT
@mulga mumblebrain
@Rich
He described you and your odious type so exactly that it was a delight to read.
Replies: @Rich
Were you reading while bent over the toilet or on your knees in the stall? You little fairy.
Rich says:
January 8, 2026 at 1:35 pm GMT • 100 Words
@saoirse
@Rich

If those men you despise weren’t willing to stand up and fight, anither group of men would take over your country, turn you into a prostitute or a slave and teach you why a nation needs strong men willing to fight.

Another group of men (and women) DID take over this cunt-ry you horse's ass - and without firing one shot. They capitalized on your ilk's low IQ and short attention span and did indeed turn the majority of Merkuns into materialistic prostitutes and ignorant wage slaves. They had you chasing shadows while they took over your 'esteemed' institutions. They convinced your big strong men to slaughter their racial brothers in both world wars and to die for the corporations in the rice patties of Vietnam and the wasteland of the middle east - and all you can do is honk and clap like the retarded trained seals that you are. Men willing to fight are useless unless they're willing to think first.

The only reason you’re not wearing a burka or pulling a plow is because of the men who pacified the world around you.

You delude yourselves into thinking you're free because the boogeymen they're scaring you with are supposedly being neutralized by 'muh military'. Meanwhile, in the real world: the country is being overthrown by jew scum and overrun by hostile muds - mostly men of fighting age - and your hooyah he-men do absolutely nothing about it. The world ain't pacified dumbass your cunt-ry is - and you cucks are to blame!

Stop being mad at your daddy and grow up.

At least I know who my daddy was Rich the Bitch! The best your mother can do is tell you yours was one of the nine guys she screwed that night in the flea bag hotel on the Bowery.
Replies: @Rich
Now look here young lady, impugning the faithfulness of my sainted mother who went to Mass seven days a week, a person you never met, is a reflection of your mental illness. Personal attacks are one thing, and can be funny, but attacking little old ladies is very bad taste. Now reflect on what you wrote, then come back and apologize. Try, somehow, to behave like a lady.

• Replies: @saoirse
@Rich

Now look here young lady

I'm not a lady doofus. I'm not even female.

Personal attacks are one thing, and can be funny, but attacking little old ladies is very bad taste

You start with the personal attacks I finish them..... in spades!

Now reflect on what you wrote, then come back and apologize

No! Keep clutching your fake pearls and piss off.
Replies: @Rich

In 2023, the Somali Diaspora in America Sent Back $1.7 Billion in Remittances, More Than the Budget of the Somali Government... Which Was Largely Funded Via USAID

Paul Kersey • January 7, 2026 • 23 Comments • Reply

Dr. Rock says:
January 7, 2026 at 5:48 pm GMT • 100 Words
This story is a “Death of the West” microcosm.

That we literally go to some shithole country as “peace keepers”, get our troops killed there, then import the same people that did it, pay them, facilitate their fraud for even more money (billions?), and they in turn send it back to their shithole country, like a pension for the people that killed our troops!

This isn’t “suicidal empathy”, this is just suicide!

• Agree: Achmed E. Newman, Rich, Augustus
• Replies: @GeneralRipper
@Dr. Rock
Great post.
Thank you.
If someone wants to be a missionary and go try to help those monkeys, I say fine and good luck.
But sending troops and "peacekeepers" and shit tons of food and money is bullshit.
Let them suffer. That's the only way savages learn.
It's the failed US Welfare State on a Global scale.

Kevin Barrett • January 2, 2026 • 176 Comments • Reply

Rumble link Bitchute link Update: I awoke this morning, Saturday, to the news that the US has bombed Caracas and other Venezuelan cities. E. Michael Jones and I will discuss this and other news on today’s False Flag Weekly News—watch at or after 8 pm Quds Time (1 pm Eastern). Kevin Barrett tells Press TV...

Derer says:
January 7, 2026 at 11:48 pm GMT
@Rich
@RadicalCenter
I thought I explained how the Venezuelan people will prosper from American business investment. Besides it being pretty self evident. Venezuelan residents will be hired for the many jobs created by the American companies and will make more money. Is that too difficult for your brain to comprehend? More jobs means more employment.
I suspect you've never met a Venezuelan. The communist Chavistas have made a poor country even poorer. Many of the people have become desperate. Crime, prostitution, substance abuse have grown to unimaginable levels. That's why so many have emigrated. American investment and removal of the commie regime will benefit the country.
And what spaghetti armed country are you from so I can return your insult?
Replies: @Derer

Venezuelan people will prosper from American business investment.

China is undeniably doing that in Venezuela and in many other countries whereby helping to build infrastructure, harbours, railroad or road, while Trump empire sells guns through IMF and sanctions. “Is that too difficult for your brain to comprehend?”

• LOL: Rich

The Precursors for War Are in Place. Iran Is the Peg to Intense Political Jockeying to Define the Post-Trump Future

Kevin DeAnna • January 5, 2026 • 44 Comments • Reply

President Donald Trump scored a major foreign policy triumph with a lightning victory over Venezuela. It’s a significant blow to China, enhances America’s position in the New World and in global oil markets, and shows American military power is still unparalleled. Yet while it’s satisfying to see Communists go down in Caracas, what about New...

Rich says:
January 8, 2026 at 12:59 am GMT
@Pierre de Craon
@Eustace Tilley (not)

I don’t expect it to change your mind …

With respect, your error is in thinking he has a mind to change.
Replies: @Rich
You sound like a chick.

Alastair Crooke • January 5, 2026 • 138 Comments • Reply

Rich says:
January 7, 2026 at 10:57 pm GMT • 100 Words
@saoirse
@anonymous

America has tens of millions of White men who will merrily go to their graves for Israel while the Israelis hate them.

Good riddance! Let them be culled from our race ASAP!! They chose their hill to die on.
You left out all the blacks, mestizos, fags and other assorted ubermensch that will also dutifully go to their doom. Good riddance as well!
Replies: @Rich
If those men you despise weren’t willing to stand up and fight, anither group of men would take over your country, turn you into a prostitute or a slave and teach you why a nation needs strong men willing to fight. The only reason you’re not wearing a burka or pulling a plow is because of the men who pacified the world around you. You aren’t worth it. But there are many other women who are. Stop being mad at your daddy and grow up.

• Troll: Jim H
• Replies: @saoirse
@Rich

If those men you despise weren’t willing to stand up and fight, anither group of men would take over your country, turn you into a prostitute or a slave and teach you why a nation needs strong men willing to fight.

Another group of men (and women) DID take over this cunt-ry you horse's ass - and without firing one shot. They capitalized on your ilk's low IQ and short attention span and did indeed turn the majority of Merkuns into materialistic prostitutes and ignorant wage slaves. They had you chasing shadows while they took over your 'esteemed' institutions. They convinced your big strong men to slaughter their racial brothers in both world wars and to die for the corporations in the rice patties of Vietnam and the wasteland of the middle east - and all you can do is honk and clap like the retarded trained seals that you are. Men willing to fight are useless unless they're willing to think first.

The only reason you’re not wearing a burka or pulling a plow is because of the men who pacified the world around you.

You delude yourselves into thinking you're free because the boogeymen they're scaring you with are supposedly being neutralized by 'muh military'. Meanwhile, in the real world: the country is being overthrown by jew scum and overrun by hostile muds - mostly men of fighting age - and your hooyah he-men do absolutely nothing about it. The world ain't pacified dumbass your cunt-ry is - and you cucks are to blame!

Stop being mad at your daddy and grow up.

At least I know who my daddy was Rich the Bitch! The best your mother can do is tell you yours was one of the nine guys she screwed that night in the flea bag hotel on the Bowery.
Replies: @Rich
Rich says:
January 7, 2026 at 10:51 pm GMT
@Anonymous
Despite Trump being a typical american, a pedophile, a mass murderer and a mafia criminal, he does know how to get blood-thirsty american or basically a british as well to mass murder some children, women and elderly, to pillage etc. All leaders of american and britisg terrorists have to do is to give these sick animals a piece of the war look, which is exactly what Trump is doing. Sick american and british just want to know what is it for me? What I get out of it? Trump promises easy money and jobs in the criminal cartel of american, british and israeli.
There will be lines of american and british asking "Sir, where do I sign up? Sir, will I get to shoot some children and women? Will I get to loot some booty of my own? Will I get to run a drug gang of my own?". When leaders of american and british terrorists let their thugs have enough, there will always be lines of american and british waiting to murder, torture, pillage and rape. Thats what they have always done. Too easy for the CIA and MI6 to get these sick criminal thugs to murder, torture and pillage, if they just know what buttons to press.
Replies: @Rich
And we’ll come to your country, take your women and your land and put you to work shining shoes and cleaning latrines. You little spaghetti armed sissy. Go play with your dolls.

• Troll: Notsofast
• Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
@Rich
He described you and your odious type so exactly that it was a delight to read.
Replies: @Rich

Kevin Barrett • January 2, 2026 • 176 Comments • Reply

Rich says:
January 7, 2026 at 6:55 pm GMT • 100 Words
@RadicalCenter
@Rich
Your reading comprehension is poor or you’re arguing in bad faith. You’re attacking a position that I don’t hold and have never expressed here or anywhere.
I don’t support Maduro and didn’t support Chavez. I hate authoritarian or totalitarian regimes. Doesn’t matter whether they are a total official one-party or police state like China, or a supposed “multi-party democracy” with creeping surveillance / digital-currency / censorship / intimidation state as in the Us, Canada, EU, uk, and perhaps Russia.
Stop attacking the straw man and address my statement.
You can’t say how the Venezuelan system will work, socialist or not, until and unless Fatmericans MIND YOUR BUSINESS and LEAVE THEM ALONE. Stop the sanctions. However they fare with the ability to trade and contract with companies / people around the world to run their energy sector, that’s how they are. Butt out for a change and then judge their performance, good or bad or mediocre.
Replies: @Rich
I thought I explained how the Venezuelan people will prosper from American business investment. Besides it being pretty self evident. Venezuelan residents will be hired for the many jobs created by the American companies and will make more money. Is that too difficult for your brain to comprehend? More jobs means more employment.

I suspect you’ve never met a Venezuelan. The communist Chavistas have made a poor country even poorer. Many of the people have become desperate. Crime, prostitution, substance abuse have grown to unimaginable levels. That’s why so many have emigrated. American investment and removal of the commie regime will benefit the country.

And what spaghetti armed country are you from so I can return your insult?

• Replies: @Derer
@Rich

Venezuelan people will prosper from American business investment.

China is undeniably doing that in Venezuela and in many other countries whereby helping to build infrastructure, harbours, railroad or road, while Trump empire sells guns through IMF and sanctions. "Is that too difficult for your brain to comprehend?"

The Precursors for War Are in Place. Iran Is the Peg to Intense Political Jockeying to Define the Post-Trump Future

Kevin DeAnna • January 5, 2026 • 44 Comments • Reply

Rich says:
January 7, 2026 at 5:38 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Eustace Tilley (not)
@Rich
Please do read Kevin Barrett's latest article.

I don't expect it to change your mind, but you might learn a little about "El Cartel de Las Solis", the drug cartel that Maduro is the head of.
Replies: @Rich, @Pierre de Craon, @Wokechoke
I don’t need to read the jihadist Barrett who’d like to see my kids forcefully converted to his Satan worshipping faith to be familiar with the story of the “cartel de los Solis “. So what? You’re never going to know the truth about this operation, we can poke around and maybe get close, but what does that matter? Does thinking you know the truth about 9-11 change anything? Maduro was taken and he’s probably going to spend some serious time in custody. The story about why he was taken will be the story accepted by the overwhelming majority long after we’re dead.

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@Rich
You're almost certainly right in supposing that we'll never know the whole story. We still don't know the "whole story" of the Battle of Lexington, really.

I do object to your characterization of Islam as a "Satan worshipping faith", which seems to be lacking in charity, the virtue which St. Paul ranked above both faith and hope. But Christians have been quarreling with Muslims since the 7th Century, and we aren't going to settle that here.

May Jesus Christ pour his blessings upon thee and thine. Please pray, with me, for peace in these tempestuous times.

Alastair Crooke • January 5, 2026 • 138 Comments • Reply

Rich says:
January 7, 2026 at 5:30 pm GMT • 100 Words
@xyzxy
@Notsofast
The Iranians were at first rather timid in their response, last go-around. Whether that will be the case in the likely upcoming action is a big question. Certainly Trump and his Irish Whiskey of a sidekick, Hegs, must believe they are on an unstoppable roll.
You'd think Iran has to realize it's existential time for them. What this could mean, defense-wise? Your guess is as good as mine. Like before, Israel will hit from outside Iranian airspace, while the US will use middle of the night stealth. Any retaliation will have to fix on Israel, plus whatever US ground forces can be located in occupied Iraq, etc. Iran must be willing to act quickly, before their own command and control is evaporated.
Do they have the will? Or is Iran going down like Venezuela? The latter doesn't seem to care too much. One way or the other. As long as Trump can make the taco truck arrive on time, Venezuelan expectations will evidently be met. And even if he can't, what are they going to do about it?
Who knows tomorrow? My impression is that the Orange Head wants to get it done quickly, while he has momentum.
Replies: @Notsofast, @Yukon Jack, @Paul Greenwood, @Rich, @Felpudinho
I don’t get you guys, a grown man having a drink is a problem? Are you all teatotalers? The guy likes a drink and he likes women and that makes you dislike him? What do you want a cocksucking, grape soda drinker for sec of defense? Nuts. And he’s Norwegian, so it would be Trump’s “Aquavit of a sidekick”.

Conservative Dogma and the Student Loan Crisis

Kevin DeAnna • January 5, 2026 • 44 Comments • Reply

Rich says:
January 7, 2026 at 1:26 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Eustace Tilley (not)
@Rich
Ay, there's the rub.
You are evidently a "good American" who buys the cover story. The trafficking in heroin by the CIA in Southeast Asia's "Golden Triangle" and such "dirty (but oh-so-necessary!) business" doesn't seem to have shaken your Eagle Scout innocent purity.
I envy you, in a way. It is sweet and delightful to remain forever a child.
But I do wonder, with some amusement, what the "cover story" will be for the annexation of Greenland. It would take a combination of Josef Goebbels, Hans Christian Anderson, and Dr. Seuss to concoct a fairy tale intoxicating enough to convince even the childlike Americans.
Replies: @Haxo Angmark, @Rich
Well, thank you for calling me a “good American”. That’s kind of you. I don’t actually care about the internal affairs of Venezuela, or anywhere else on the planet. I understand the motivations of the internationalists, mostly money, power, but their reasoning for the arrest is their reason. True or not, doesn’t matter (though I wouldn’t be surprised if Maduro was making money off drug sales). They gave their explanation and pulled off a difficult extraction. Similar to Skorzeny’s extraction of Mussolini.

And my religion does call for me to have the faith of a child, so I hope in my religious obligations I do that. In this case, I think you’re maybe being a little childlike in your not understanding the motivation of this operation.

• Thanks: Eustace Tilley (not), 36 ulster
• Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)
@Rich
Please do read Kevin Barrett's latest article.

I don't expect it to change your mind, but you might learn a little about "El Cartel de Las Solis", the drug cartel that Maduro is the head of.
Replies: @Rich, @Pierre de Craon, @Wokechoke
, @36 ulster
@Rich
Game, set and match.

Richard Parker • January 4, 2026 • 109 Comments • Reply

Author’s note: the Trump Administration announced it will begin garnishing defaulted student loans after the New Year, in January 2026. Mainstream conservatives are applauding, many of whom are doing so with a marked callousness and even Schadenfreude. This essay, originally published in May of 2025, argues that, among other things, mainstream conservatives get this wrong....

mulga mumblebrain says:
January 6, 2026 at 7:26 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Gbyut
There’s no way out.
The problem described by Richard Parker is just one of a bundle of irreconcilable problems. Most can’t be solved without “drastic and unthinkable” consequences.
The political class is venal and those that have the power in this country will squeeze the United States until there is no wealth left, unless perturbed by another force.
In part this rape of Venezuela is another pillaging in support of the failing US Empire. Filling the refineries on the gulf coast that are tuned for Venezuelan heavy crude is another desperate gambit to remain in control and put energy to a decrepit system.
So does it all end with a bang or a whimper?
Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
All the parameters of rapid climate destabilisation are worsening, including the quantum of heat reaching the surface of the planet, for ‘unknown reasons’ probably due to the drying out of continental interiors and the effects that has on clouds. It will be a sort of ‘squelch’ I think, rather like the fate of those poor buggers on the submersible heading for Titanic, but more drawn out, for the pathos of it all.

• LOL: Rich
• Replies: @A_Hand_Hidden
@mulga mumblebrain
Pfffftt!

You want doom? I'll see your quantum heat and raise you a planetary rending. Start on page 7.

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/cia-rdp79b00752a000300070001-8.pdf
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Rich says:
January 6, 2026 at 7:17 pm GMT • 200 Words
Nah. All BS. I know several younger people with hundreds of thousands of student loans who spent that money on European vacations, Mexico, new cars and partying. In fact, every young person I know, saddled with this debt, didn’t even have a part-time job in college. If, by the time you’re 18 you’re too stupid to realize loans have to be paid back, someone out there was eventually going to take your money anyway. You’re a sucker. And your parents, who encouraged you to take those loans and probably cosigned some of them, are suckers, too. And suckers get taken. Always and everywhere. You get no sympathy or loan relief from me. The feds will make a deal to take a percentage of your income to make it more affordable. Now get to work.

And as for the author’s assertion, 90% of conservatives are against all foreign aid, whether it goes to Israel, Egypt or Somalia or anywhere. The foreign aid game is run by the owners of the country for their own benefit. Read “Confessions of an Economic Hitman” by John Perkins for a better understanding of how the game is played.
Felpudinho says:
January 6, 2026 at 5:59 pm GMT • 300 Words

Your White ancestors crossed oceans in rickety wooden boats for a chance at freedom and survival, and many of them died during the journey, starved to death, or were killed by savages. They are LAUGHING at you soft fucks.

No immigrant ancestor of mine ever got a SNAP card, free housing, free healthcare or “free” anything at all when they arrived to America. These spoiled-brat young Americans singing the student-loan blues have no idea how tough it was for millions upon millions of (white) American immigrants in the not-too-distant past.

Try starting your work life in a coal mine at age 13, 14, or 15 like my grandpa and his two older brothers did; now work 60-hour work weeks for 45 years in that mine, providing all your own tools (even the TNT) while only getting paid by the ton.

I have considerable contempt for American student-loan deadbeats who think that the world, in general, and American taxpayers specifically, owe them. But I absolutely despise the Somali “refugee” fraudsters who have gotten “free” everything (after being flown here for “free”) then repaying their benefactors by ripping off their welfare system to the tune of billions of dollars.

What’s even worse than the billions in Somali fraud, is that now being caught redhanded you just know our dysfunctional judicial system wont be deporting them. The Somali criminals will be considered poor victims, just like the student loan debtors are considered victims. In both cases the US taxpayer – you and I – will end up getting stuck with the bill.

Best scenario: Deported Somalis and garnished wages (or welfare checks) of all student loan deadbeats.

• Agree: Rich
Johnny LeBlanc says:
January 6, 2026 at 2:44 pm GMT • 200 Words
The following view is unfashionable among the younger set, but, I don’t give a fuck.

And I’m not a “boomer.”

No one owes you anything just because you can fog a mirror. Yeah, things are fucked up, but that doesn’t absolve you of the responsibility of taking care of yourself. So, pull your head out of your ass, quit playing video games and doing drugs, quit eating expensive take out garbage delivered to your door by shitskins, and rethink that $500 tattoo or dropping $4000 on a new game computer.

Grow the fuck up. No one gives a fuck — everyone is dealing with their own problems. Life isn’t about “living your dreams.” It’s about fucking survival. Your White ancestors crossed oceans in rickety wooden boats for a chance at freedom and survival, and many of them died during the journey, starved to death, or were killed by savages. They are LAUGHING at you soft fucks.

Cue the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

• Thanks: Guest Perfect, Rich
• Replies: @EliteCommInc.
@Johnny LeBlanc
That old cliche' is as false now as when it was first uttered. The people of the US do in fact owe each other plenty.

And those white ancestors were funded by Great Britain. And they had slaves to avoid working . . . and they had indentured servants --- and when it came time to pay the piper
they started a war to avoid doing so.
Wall street has been bailed out more than once . . . if you get a pension, there is little doubt that pension was saved by the debt taken on by the federals government as billions in pensions were paid from funds invested in WS.
Savings and loans housing crisis bail out 400 billion.
, @A_Hand_Hidden
@Johnny LeBlanc
I've never read a post so completely composed of nothing but threadbare stereotypes before; was this crafted by the new Chat 5.2 boomer AI?

Anyways, if this corrupt demonic illegitimate jew-owned government can shovel hundreds of billions of dollars to every nation, NGO, and 63 IQ Somali it can find, then it can certainly print some more and forgive these loans.
bj0311 says:
January 6, 2026 at 1:23 pm GMT • 500 Words
1. Our higher education system was forced into industrial production by the ill-considered postwar GI Bill. Watch the 1955 film Blackboard Jungle with Glenn Ford. His character, during the interview, is asked why he went to a women’s college. Why? Because all the other colleges were full. Millions of new students; campuses could not accommodate so many. By 1963 we already had a 10% surfeit of bachelor’s degrees; by 2012 it was 45%.
2. What no one talks about—ever—is the huge number of places in the world where people go to college for free. This includes much of Europe. Even Americans can go to many of these colleges either free or at a very low cost. My daughter is in Paris right now getting her master’s degree and being paid a living stipend. She has also been offered the opportunity to get her PhD as well—it isn’t costing us anything (except airfare to visit).
3. I am a veteran who served three decades. The first 20 years had zero tangible benefits, but after the 9/11 farce the floodgates opened. In 1990, I was allowed to attend Officer Candidate School as a 30-year-old NCO with no college at all, but I had to have 60 hours to be commissioned. These hours were obtained by paying a military-recommended community college to convert my service schooling to college credit. I only had to have a formal degree by the time I was promoted to captain.
The problem? They changed the rules as soon as I was commissioned with no grandfather clause. I now had to have, or be working on, a degree to keep my commission. I had to upend my life and go to school full-time—for three years, because they would only take half of those 60 hours. I had to take loans, even though I worked two jobs. I believed sincerely that, in spite of the circumstances, those loans were my responsibility because it was my choices that brought them on.
But here is the ironic thing. After 9/11, I suddenly had all the free college I could handle through the GI Bill, and as a 100% disabled vet I also had free college through the VA. I said, “I don’t need any more college; can I use these benefits to finish paying off my student loans?” The answer? A resounding NO! So I had to take these benefits to get yet more college because they also paid me a stipend, which I used to pay the loans off. How retarded is that?
And given the fact that my last experiences with several institutions of “higher education” were an absolute joke… You have to give incoming students remedial reading, writing, and math classes because they learned nothing in high school? Really? You have to tell students taking master’s-level classes that Wikipedia is not a source? Really? The whole system needs to go.

• Agree: A_Hand_Hidden, Rich
• Thanks: Mike Tre
• Replies: @Madbadger
@bj0311
I agree with you, the whole system needs to go. Even the system that hired you as a mercenary all those years and then insists on giving you college classes you don't want, get rid of it all.
Replies: @Rich
, @Gvaltar
@bj0311

2. ... it isn’t costing us anything ...

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=france+debt&df=w&ia=web
, @obwandiyag
@bj0311
Perhaps you shouldn't have joined the army. The army is not nice. It kills people. Innocent people.
Rich says:
January 6, 2026 at 6:55 pm GMT
@Madbadger
@bj0311
I agree with you, the whole system needs to go. Even the system that hired you as a mercenary all those years and then insists on giving you college classes you don't want, get rid of it all.
Replies: @Rich
Did you graduate from an American university? You need to look up the definition of “mercenary”. You don’t know what it means.
Anon[253] • Disclaimer says:
January 5, 2026 at 3:31 pm GMT • 100 Words
I went to college, selected a promising major (engineering), struggled through 4 years of hell, and then I got a decent job and paid off my student loans.

Now we apparently need to cancel the debt of others so they can better compete with me in the housing market. This is unfair to the people who did things responsibly.

I would support stopping interest on the loans after a certain amount of time has passed, but simply canceling the debt is bullshit.

This idea that we need to cancel their debts to “save the social contract” is ridiculous. Society has already been destroyed in a myriad of ways. There is no more social contract and we do not live in a moral society. Life has disappointed me plenty, but I don’t pretend that is everyone else’s problem to fix.

• Agree: Rich, Gvaltar
• Replies: @obwandiyag
@Anon
Fuck you you lying asshole.
Replies: @Anon, @Felpudinho
, @Christoph88
@Anon
Why can the Orange Dolt declare bankruptcy 5x and walk away scott-free from hundreds of millions of debt but some kid being crushed under 6 figures of debt not declare it?
Replies: @dearieme
, @Brazilian Brainrot
@Anon
Thanks for proving the point of the article.
, @Che Guava
@Anon
I agree with the unsympathetic. OTOH, Mr. Parker misses two or three major points.
By the late '80s, 'structural unemployment' had become part of mainstream capitalist ideology.
The idea being that having a 4 to 10% pool of unemployed would drive labour costs down. In real terms, augmented by mass immigration, in many places, it has had the desired effect. Stagnant wages, which, given constant inflation, means falling wages.
So expanding tertiary education to morons and midwits provided a way to fake unemployment figures down.
Thus, much of tertiary education was transformed into a kind of kindergarten for late-teen and early twenties morons and midwits.
It was an expensive but handy way to conceal real levels of unemployment.
The OECD was another though related factor. The OECD encouraged a kind of competition of who could have the most bachelor's degrees. This didn't have much effect in Asia, but in western places, they complied. They turned all kinds of certificate courses into degree courses, and the lower institutions into universities, usually as branches of universities, which in many cases, they already had been.
Teaching had been, at least for secondary school, a degree and a teaching certificate. Suddenly fifth-rate institutions were offering B.Ed., Bachelor of Education, as a degree course.
Schools of fine (or usually not-so-fine) arts suddenly were able to grant bachelor's degrees, although many of the students were borderline retarded.
Medical nursing was transformed in a similar way, with the result of a drop in standards, since haughty nurses with bachelor's degrees felt themselves above any duties at the core of their profession.
All of those things are largely western sicknesses, but real.

Finally, in the U.S., taking a truly bullshit degree and going to work as the DIE person in personnel (HR is dehumanising so I refuse the term) seems to be quite a golden ticket over there.
, @Madbadger
@Anon
Your comment really brought the give me everything for free cockroaches out of the wood work. Any student that didn't understand what debt is and didn't expect to pay it back does not need to pretend they are educated. We get enough of those from other countries. The 'higher education is a scam' group are all telling me they are stupid enough to want to be scammed. If not they would not spend huge sums of money to participate in the scam. I just paid a plumber over $300 for a couple hours of work. That is more hourly than I ever made with a degree. Some people need to learn a trade and go to work. The others that replied to your comment seem to think I owe them a lifetime of easy living. I don't owe them anything.
, @anon
@Anon
All the Boomers need to just die already. Don't forget to thank us when you go for bailing out your retirement fund and home value, shithead.
Literally "The Worst Generation". Good riddance.
, @Same old same old
@Anon

Now we apparently need to cancel the debt of others so they can better compete with me in the housing market. This is unfair to the people who did things responsibly.

You shouldn't have to compete in the housing market. The "housing crisis" as it exists is artificial. It was created by artificially limiting housing supply using zoning and excessive requirements on what can be built. Go look it up.
Yes, there should be different quality of housing, but the idea we have right now that there isn't enough is fake. Countries like Japan have solved this problem. America doesn't want to solve it. America wants to pretend there is a real problem so that they can create a political football and rake in money for (((developers))) and (((landlords))).
, @Palmm
@Anon
Generally speaking, The DNC is much better at patronage. All you are doing is playing right into their plan, because they exploit "rugged individualism."

Kevin DeAnna • January 5, 2026 • 44 Comments • Reply

Rich says:
January 6, 2026 at 6:12 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Eustace Tilley (not)
If this is White Power, I hope it burns and crashes as fast as the Hindenburg.

32 Cubans were killed during this quick smash 'n' grab. What would you say if a dozen Negroes broke into a ♥️ White ♥️ man's bedroom with guns blazing, kidnapped him and his wife, and killed 32 guards?

Hey: why not change the subject and talk about Mozart and Isaac Newton and how great they were?
Replies: @Rich, @Wokechoke, @follyofwar
But it wasn’t a dozen negros breaking into a White man’s house. Why not deal with what actually happened? US Special Forces, along with DEA officers arrested an indicted, wanted criminal. You can argue for or against the successful operation, but fantasies about negros attacking Whites aren’t necessary. There’s more than enough of those stories.

• Agree: 36 ulster
• Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)
@Rich
Ay, there's the rub.
You are evidently a "good American" who buys the cover story. The trafficking in heroin by the CIA in Southeast Asia's "Golden Triangle" and such "dirty (but oh-so-necessary!) business" doesn't seem to have shaken your Eagle Scout innocent purity.
I envy you, in a way. It is sweet and delightful to remain forever a child.
But I do wonder, with some amusement, what the "cover story" will be for the annexation of Greenland. It would take a combination of Josef Goebbels, Hans Christian Anderson, and Dr. Seuss to concoct a fairy tale intoxicating enough to convince even the childlike Americans.
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, @Anon
@Rich
Who gives a fuck about what non-whites are doing to each other in a third world shithole, when America is being occupied by Jewish criminals who are screwing over American whites?
The Jewish fraud criminal Sackler family lied about their drugs and got millions of American whites addicted to their drugs, and they have not been jailed yet. There are no Jewish bankers arrested yet for destroying America's economy and the lives of millions of American whites in the 2008 Great Financial Crisis. Zionist Jews and their shabbos goyim president and congresspeople are stealing the money of American whites and sending it over to Israel so Zionist Jews can bomb and rape more Palestinians. The Jewish pedophiles around Epstein are still raping American white girls and the Trump administration is covering up their crimes. Jews and their shabbos goyim are still bombing third world countries, generating millions of non-white refugees, and then sending them up to America where they replace American whites in the Great Replacement.
What Maduro is doing in Venezeula is insignificant compared to what the Jews are doing in America to whites. We whites need to take care of our own first, and that means prioritizing defeating the real threat to American whites, which are the Jews. If the Trump administration is truly interested in saving white America then they should be sending US Special Forces, DEA, ICE, law enforcement, etc against the criminal Jewish traitors in America who are currently destroying the white race in America, instead of caring about the actions of a tinpot leader of an irrelevant third world shithole.
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Puncturing the Propaganda-Bubble of the USSA and Its EUSSR Vassals

Kevin Barrett • January 2, 2026 • 176 Comments • Reply

Rich says:
January 5, 2026 at 9:25 pm GMT • 100 Words
@RadicalCenter
@Rich
You know what else will “put food on your table” as a Venezuelan? Public ownership of natural resources, with the profits from their sale paid to every citizen in equal shares every year. Same arrangement we should have here in plutocrat USA.

If you’re so concerned about Venezuelans “putting food on the table”, leave them free from sanctions, threats, coups. “Let” them trade with other countries, and hire foreign expert workers and technicians, to repair, improve, and expand their infrastructure for extracting and transporting oil. Perhaps refining it as well. Some of these foreign corporations and workers will be Americans, as the Venezuelans choose.
Replies: @Rich
You can’t possibly be this stupid. It’s not possible. I’m not the least bit concerned about Venezuela’s prosperity. But I do know a few Venezuelans and they say your boy Chavez and his ex-boyfriend Maduro destroyed their country. Are you really too stupid to realize that investment by American companies will provide jobs and income? You can apparently read and write, but your brain doesn’t seem to have the ability to reason.

• Replies: @Wokechoke
@Rich
Venezuela is a dump that briefly had immense petrochemical wealth, this ran out in the 1980s and 90s as OPEC was dismantled to secure Israeli prospects in the Middle East.
, @RadicalCenter
@Rich
Your reading comprehension is poor or you’re arguing in bad faith. You’re attacking a position that I don’t hold and have never expressed here or anywhere.
I don’t support Maduro and didn’t support Chavez. I hate authoritarian or totalitarian regimes. Doesn’t matter whether they are a total official one-party or police state like China, or a supposed “multi-party democracy” with creeping surveillance / digital-currency / censorship / intimidation state as in the Us, Canada, EU, uk, and perhaps Russia.
Stop attacking the straw man and address my statement.
You can’t say how the Venezuelan system will work, socialist or not, until and unless Fatmericans MIND YOUR BUSINESS and LEAVE THEM ALONE. Stop the sanctions. However they fare with the ability to trade and contract with companies / people around the world to run their energy sector, that’s how they are. Butt out for a change and then judge their performance, good or bad or mediocre.
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Ron Unz • January 5, 2026 • 940 Comments • Reply

One of the most flawlessly executed special forces operations of the last half-century took place in 1979 when Soviet commandos stormed Afghanistan's heavily defended presidential palace, killing Hafizullah Amin and several of his top aides. This allowed Moscow to install a replacement government much more congenial to its interests, though the result was the long...

Rich says:
January 5, 2026 at 8:05 pm GMT
@Brazilian Brainrot
Wouldn't the use of military force against a foreign country without Senate authorization be grounds for impeachment? (Not that Vance is any better than Trump...)
Replies: @PercyQuattro, @Rich
No. The president, as commander in chief, is authorized by the Constitution to wage military conflicts at will. The US has been involved in 105 military conflicts, only 5 have been “declared”. If Congress is opposed to a conflict it can cut funding for the action. This is settled law.
meamjojo says:
January 5, 2026 at 10:31 am GMT • 200 Words

“An actual invasion of Taiwan would be out of the question, but if Trump can declare a blockade of the independent country of Venezuela with no justification, China can certainly claim it has an equal right to do the same towards an island that the U.S. government and almost the entire world has long recognized as an integrable part of a single, unified China.”

Yes but in the case of Venezuela, Russia was “supposed” to stand-up and back the country if attacked. But hey were AWOL. And their weapon/defense systems were quickly neutralized. Russia has been proven to be nothing but a paper tiger militarily. If they didn’t have nukes, we would have probably invaded them by now.

Taiwan, OTOH, is backed by the USA, with the most powerful military force in the solar system and due to their importance in chip manufacturing, the USA is not going to turn a blind-eye to China invading Taiwan.

• Agree: Brás Cubas, Rich, Henry Ford
• Replies: @xyzxy
@meamjojo

Taiwan, OTOH, is backed by the USA, with the most powerful military force in the solar system and due to their importance in chip manufacturing, the USA is not going to turn a blind-eye to China invading Taiwan.

The US is not in a position to defend Taiwan. Thinking so is idiotic. The US is in the same situation as Russia and China were, vis a vis Venezuela. Here on TUR we have folks complaining that Russia and China did not 'defend' Venezuela. Logistically, how would that have even been possible? People just say without thinking it through.
Taiwan on the other hand is 160 km from the mainland. That's only a few minutes time before the first command and control destroying missile salvos arrive. When China decides to act, the action will be over before the US could muster any conceivable defense force.
But it might not even take a large destructive military action. You have to realize that Taiwanese are Chinese, with a long history of mainland connection. Including family and friends. To think that the mainland is not in close contact with sympathetic Taiwan military officials and politicians, compatriots who are ready and willing to assist in reunification, is naive. That is why Trump is attempting to get high-tech operations like TSMC to move their production facilities to the US. Because Trump knows that Taiwan is not Venezuela in any sense of the scenario.
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, @Ron Unz
@meamjojo

Taiwan, OTOH, is backed by the USA, with the most powerful military force in the solar system and due to their importance in chip manufacturing, the USA is not going to turn a blind-eye to China invading Taiwan.

Well, perhaps you're correct, but I don't think so.

On numerous occasions including in this article, I've suggested that if America went to war against China, the Chinese could use their enormous arsenal of conventional and hypersonic missiles to quickly sink all our aircraft carriers and other warships in the region, while also bombarding and destroying all of our airbases within many hundreds of miles.

Since our air defenses are weak and ineffective, it's not obvious to me what we could do to prevent this.

Indeed, according to that recently leaked Pentagon study that I cited, the Chinese could destroy our biggest carriers "within minutes."

So under this analysis, we'd lose our war against China within the first day or so, or perhaps even within the first couple of hours.

I don't claim any serious military expertise, but this seems like what would probably happen. What parts of this scenario would you dispute and why?

The only powerful argument I see on the other side would be the serious Chinese concerns that if they sank our entire Pacific fleet and destroyed all our regional airbases probably killing something like 20,000 American servicemen within a couple of hours, we might go nuclear.
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@meamjojo
The US would turn a blind eye to China taking over Taiwan. In fact, Trump would be happy if that knuckle-head Putin would finally finish off Zelensky by taking Kiev. It's clear that Trump is now subscribing to the 'spheres of influence' approach to geopolitics. Neither Taiwan nor Ukraine are in our sphere.
, @IronForge
@meamjojo
Murica are unable to defend the Taipei Administration.
I'm a 2ndGen Navy Vet of the US 7thFlt which OPERATE in that Area. My Late Father was in the Interdiction Fleet that allowed CKS to flee from the Mainland to Taiwan in the late 1940s.
The Strait is 110 miles across - that's Helicopter distance. CHN_PLA have been conducting exercises that envelope Taiwan in hours and redirect Civil Air & Sea Traffic for years now.
Whomever is/are feeding you that US line is a/are MIC or Congressional Delusional Trained Monkey/s living off the money cycling into Taiwanese Arms Sales, Congressional Re-election Campaigns, and Compensation Pkgs for Admirals looking for MIC Jobs after they retire.
The Island and surrounding Coastal Waters, Inland Sea, and Exclusive Economic Zone - ALL are under Legal Sovereign Ownership of Beijing.
Taiwan Island are economically dependent on the Mainland.
TSMC are dependent on the Mainland Business as well; but CHN are developing their Chip Sector aggressively and it's a matter of time until TSMC are surpassed.
, @JR Foley
@meamjojo
Taiwan properly belongs to China--Japan seized Taiwan 1895 but had to relinquish it end of WWII to China. Carter stated there is but 1 China and it is the Mainland.
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, @Brás Cubas
@meamjojo
Actually, Russia's standing down is now explained by a New York Times article which was shared by fellow commenter Greg Garros:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/06/world/americas/russia-us-venezuela-ukraine.html
Trump has done a master coup.
Putin's "forever" alliance with China will no doubt suffer from this incident.
Team Russmerica will be unbeatable. Back down, China. Prepare for another millennium of eating American dust. Don't forget to share it with Zelensky.
Timur The Lame says:
January 5, 2026 at 10:06 am GMT • 200 Words
One must also observe that the mention of NATO’s Article 5 has gone down the memory hole. Pre SMO every European room smelled of Article 5 farts. As I pointed out some time back, read the fucking thing. It is only one paragraph long on NATO’s own website.

It essentially says that if one of our members is attacked, we will get together for lunch and draft a nasty letter indicating our displeasure. In several months, the revised edition will be delivered.

Fun fact: Several years ago, then Estonian Prime Minster revealed that NATO’s plan with respect to the Baltic States was that they would allow a Russian invasion and occupation and then drive them out in 6 months (laughter).

The lady was attacked for revealing secret military information until she showed that the information was published by NATO on their own site.

Then in damage control mode, a NATO official went on the media and said that NATO is going to assemble a force of 300,000 rapid response soldiers to be constantly on alert to prevent any Russian aggression.

These people are insane if they believe this would be possible and slightly less insane if they think that the European people would believe them.

All this has gone down the memory hole. European people were usually more alert regarding political issues but seem to have devolved to the level of their American cousins.

Idiocracy, the movie was a documentary.

Cheers-

• Agree: Rich
A123 says: • Website
January 5, 2026 at 6:36 am GMT • 600 Words
The cocaine smuggling angle and associated financial crimes by themselves are wholly legitimate reasons to arrest Maduro.

Venezuelan armed forces were preparing to invade Guyana. The last thing South America needs is another war. That was nipped in the bud before it could start.

Oil is a globally traded commodity. Both Venezuela and Guyana going offline during a protracted war would have bumped up U.S. energy prices. Helping preserve the peace also served a domestic priority in addition to being morally right.
___

Here is a useful, though unofficial, summary of the American stance. (1)

Francisco Poleo
@FranciscoPoleoR

Delcy Rodríguez and the core of the regime’s leadership are negotiating with the United States as we speak. This is not a sudden pivot. It is the result of a conclusion reached in Washington over months: the U.S. does not believe that María Corina Machado and the opposition have the operational capacity to seize power in Venezuela because they do not control, or meaningfully fracture, the military. If they did, power would have shifted immediately after the 2024 presidential election. It did not.

For a long period, U.S. officials, including Marco Rubio, were in constant communication with Machado and her team. They were asked repeatedly for proof of a concrete plan, not just to win power symbolically, but to retain it in practice: chain of command, military alignment, institutional control, day-after governance. The answers were consistently evasive, justified by security concerns, but never substantiated. At that point, from the U.S. government’s perspective, the opposition ceased to look like a viable transition mechanism and began to look like a political wager with no enforcement arm.

The plan now on the table is for Delcy Rodríguez to stabilize the country with U.S. backing and then call for general elections. This is not framed as an endorsement of the regime, but as a containment and transition strategy. Washington is explicit about one thing: this is not a partnership of equals. The United States is running the process, the lines are being managed through Rubio, and the leverage is entirely asymmetric. Delcy is the instrument, not the center of gravity.

U.S. officials also assess that Delcy’s harsh public rhetoric today was aimed inward, at the chavista base, not outward. That messaging is understood as domestic signaling. Nevertheless, as of now, negotiations with the United States are ongoing as we speak.

A great deal of Trump’s expansive public messaging is to the American domestic base. There cannot be too many complaints when Rodríguez does the same with her country’s citizens. ;-D

Rubio, not Hegseth, is running the process. That strongly suggests that the “kinetic” phase of events have wrapped up. The Venezuelan military is being left in place and elections will soon be forthcoming. If María Corina Machado wants to be President, she has to win that seat at the polls. It will be interesting to see her odds when Polymarket puts up an election predictor.

Trump has to keep at bay the NeoConDemocrats who want to insert America on the ground. Fortunately critters like Bill Kristol no longer have significant influence.
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Objective facts are important. Maduro lost badly in 2024 [MORE] (2)

The people of Venezuela are glad that he is gone.

PEACE 😇
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(1) https://xcancel.com/FranciscoPoleoR/status/2007629162513854895

(2) https://xcancel.com/teameffujoe/status/2007501066397724767

[MORE]

The Older Millennial
@teameffujoe

He is not “President” Maduro.

He lost. Badly. Wasn’t even close. Then he used his cartel army to violently take power.

And you liberals are on social media doing everything but sucking him off from the back.

• Agree: Rich
• Troll: bike-anarkist
• Replies: @RadicalCenter
@A123
Your concern over the oil output that would be lost if Venezuela invades a neighboring country is truly touching and, no doubt, sincere.
If the US were truly concerned with Venezuela’s oil production, the US and its vassals could have simply NOT sanctioned Venezuela’s government and companies. That would “allow” the Venezuelans to trade with and hire foreign experts to properly build, maintain and repair, improve, and enlarge its equipment for oil extraction, transport, and possibly refining.
And American young men should neither die, nor murder others, thousands of miles from our borders in a war that has nothing to do with defense of our people here in the USA, nor with a legitimate retaliatory attack on someone who has attacked us here, nor with a truly preemptive attack on someone preparing to attack us here.
As for the possible target of Venezuela’s armed forces, Guyana, I’m confident that your / US government interest has nothing to do with its ample gold and bauxite reserves, nor with its recently discovered oil. Nothing whatsoever.
ghali says:
January 5, 2026 at 5:43 am GMT • 200 Words
Good critique and timely. I just want to say that it is not difficult to extract someone who is incarcerated in a presidential palace or a prison, especially when you have tremendous tools available against a country that lacks adequate aerial defense. It is much easier if you can coerce and bribe someone on the ground, which is what the US did in Caracas. The US Delta commando has many tools and extensive experience. When they flew over Caracas, they landed at an already bombed site, killed a few lightly-armed guards, and kidnapped the Boss, Maduro. You can kill anyone if you know where they sleep. The kidnapping of Maduro was a Zionist propaganda designed to bully and intimidate other leaders.

Not long ago in Sydney, Australia, the girlfriend of a hardcore criminal imprisoned in one of the most secure prisons in Australia hired a tourist helicopter for “sightseeing.” She booked the helicopter for one person only, directed it to fly over the prison, landed in the yard, disabled (disarmed) two security guards, picked up her boyfriend, and flew back home. The rest is history.

Trump, being Trump with a big mouth, would dare to do this in Iran or the DPRK. Jimmy Carter did try to free the American hostages in Iran and failed. Iran is much more powerful today than forty years ago.

• Agree: son of a jedi
• Disagree: Rich
• Thanks: John Trout

New Imperial War: The U.S. Assault on Venezuela Exposes a Desperate Empire

Joshua Scheer • January 3, 2026 • 638 Comments • Reply

Multiple blasts were reported in Venezuela’s capital early Saturday after President Trump was said to have authorized U.S. airstrikes targeting military installations and other sites. Residents of Caracas saw plumes of smoke and reported hearing aircraft flying at low altitude around 2 a.m. local time, according to the Associated Press and Reuters. Power outages were...

Wokechoke says:
January 4, 2026 at 10:29 pm GMT
@Rich
"Rome Defeats Gaul, Exposes Failing Empire " would've been the headline here when Caesar defeated the Gauls. A wanted criminal was arrested and the rest of the world has seen the efficiency of American Special Forces. China and Russia have been denied a base in the Americas. Face it, at this point it's a win.
Replies: @Wokechoke
More like Rome defeats Caledonia, exposes limits of Empire, Hadrian says Build the Wall!

• LOL: Rich
Rich says:
January 5, 2026 at 7:15 pm GMT
@mulga mumblebrain
@Rich
You gotta love these puffed-up Yankee blow-hard thugs.
Replies: @Rich
“Blow hard” isn’t that what you do in the public restrooms of Sydney?

New Imperial War: The U.S. Assault on Venezuela Exposes a Desperate Empire

Kevin Barrett • January 2, 2026 • 176 Comments • Reply

Rich says:
January 5, 2026 at 7:13 pm GMT
@RadicalCenter
@Rich
Trump let one major convicted Latin American narcotics trafficker/exporter (former president of a country) FREE from prison, while kidnapping Maduro and his wife supposedly in part to punish them for … drug trafficking. Doesn’t seem like a “Win” or even a consistent policy against illegal drugs.
The US threatening, insulting, invading, and purporting to “run” another country that’s not attacking or preparing to attack us … seems more like a win for China and Russia.
We know which direction this kind of murder and arrogance will push the competition for goodwill, trust, and trade. It will help China and Russia look stable, respectful, and reliable by comparison. That helps China and Russia, not the USA, negotiate more liberal trade terms, and arrange mutually beneficial investments and partnerships in airport / seaport / infrastructure and energy projects in Central and South American countries. In other words, In the direction of more cooperation and trade between the targeted countries and China and to a lesser extent Russia, Brazil, and Iran, less with the US.
To top it all off, every dollar spent on this attack, and any forthcoming invasion and occupation of Venezuela, is BORROWED. Every day of needless, unconstitutional, undeclared, non-defensive war against Venezuela adds to the US’s enormous federal government debt.
The increased debt — and interest payments — will tend to weaken the dollar versus the currencies of less indebted countries. That hurts Americans as we try to buy foreign goods and services (on which we depend so severely for our consumer economy, household goods, clothing and shoes, medical equipment, pharmaceuticals, industrial equipment, tractors and other farm vehicles. It also undermines the standard of living of the increasing number of Americans who have made the understandable decision to live part or all of the year outside the USA, as their dollars will buy less of their new host country’s currency.
Tell us more about the “win”, Fatmerican.
Good luck and may God bless all good people in Venezuela under the aggression of the US, whether they supported Maduro or not.
Replies: @Rich
The only part of your nonsensical diatribe that I need to respond to is your calling me “fat”. I’m actually a trim guy who works hard at staying in shape. You need to apologize for this outrage.

Joshua Scheer • January 3, 2026 • 638 Comments • Reply

Rich says:
January 4, 2026 at 10:16 pm GMT
As the Athenians told the Melians way back in 416 BC, ” The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.” Understand that and you’ll understand international relations.

• Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
@Rich
You gotta love these puffed-up Yankee blow-hard thugs.
Replies: @Rich
Dixiecrat says:
January 4, 2026 at 2:10 pm GMT • 100 Words
This article is a hash of leftist twaddle. Maduro is a thug who replaced Chavez, a true crazy person. Those two have ruined Venezuela. I was in Colombia and had to watch wretched Venezuelans, whole families, staggering from the Venezuelan border to Bogota, hundreds of miles away. Anybody who defends this ulcer in our hemisphere is a cruel, uninformed person. I see Scheerpost comes out of LA. News flash: Your Mexican perspective means nothing in the rest of the region; Mexico, for all is size and importance, is an outlier.

The author clearly knows little to nothing about the realities of Venezuela and Colombia.

• Agree: Rich
• Replies: @Commentator Mike
@Dixiecrat
So you pitied those Venezuelans, and do you pity all those pitiful people in US: the homeless, those queuing up for free food, the junkies dying in the streets, the beggars, the victims of vicious crimes on public transport, on the streets, in jails, in homes? Those who rule USA are not responsible for this, are they? What, you never saw any of that in US?
Replies: @fnn
, @anon
@Dixiecrat
what is the population size of venezuela 2024
The population size of Venezuela in 2024 is estimated to be between 26.56 million and 34.1 million people. Specifically, one source estimates it at 26.56 million, while another estimates it at 34.1 million according to census figures. Other estimates suggest a population of 28.41 million.
Statista
+2

Population size of US 341 million, I don't know if that includes all the illegals.
number of poor people in the us
Approximately 35.9 million people
As of 2024, approximately 35.9 million people in the United States live in poverty, which represents about 10.6% of the total population. This figure reflects a slight decrease from the previous year,

Why didn't you go take him out? Why didn't anyone in Columbia?
, @xyzxy
@Dixiecrat
Even if what you say is the case, what does it have to do with the US? How is it America's responsibility to enact regime change on a people you claim are led by crazies and thugs? Is the US going to somehow turn the place respectable, now?
I guess according to the Orange Head, illegal drugs will now stop coming into the US. We'll see how that goes. And which happens first-- illegal drug use is solved, or oil company profits skyrocket?
Talk about bad luck-- drug addled Americans sure picked the wrong time to become cocaine users (or whatever drug it was Maduro and waifu were supposed to have been smuggling). On the other hand, now that the Don has solved the illegal drug trade, users can apply for jobs in America's new oil 'venture' down in Venezuela. Do something constructive with their lives, for a change.
, @NobodyImportant
@Dixiecrat
It doesnt matter what they do in their own fucking country you ignorant windbag. That doesn't give Trump the goddamn right to go over there and fuck with them. Trump is a POS, he better thank his sorry ass no nation is strong enough to do to his corrupt murderous behind what he just did to someone else and then some.
, @Brazilian Brainrot
@Dixiecrat

Maduro is a thug who replaced Chavez, a true crazy person. Those two have ruined Venezuela.

These two didn't ruin Venezuela, the American sanctions did. Sanctions, not "socialism" or "mismanagement," are what are destroying economy and the social fabric in Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea, among others.

The website Venezuanalysis has a nice 148-page PDF report about the effects of sanctions up until 2023.

https://venezuelanalysis.com/sanctions-kill/

It's time to end this dirty and sneaky tactic of isolating countries economically from the world and then blaming the resulting social chaos on the "incompetence" and "failure" of "socialism." Right-wingers love to use this rhetoric to discredit countries that are even minimally trying to live their own destinies.
, @showmethereal
@Dixiecrat
What was cruel were US sanctions to destroy the Venezuelan economy … but Dixiecrats aren’t known for critical thinking
Rich says:
January 4, 2026 at 6:08 pm GMT • 100 Words
“Rome Defeats Gaul, Exposes Failing Empire ” would’ve been the headline here when Caesar defeated the Gauls. A wanted criminal was arrested and the rest of the world has seen the efficiency of American Special Forces. China and Russia have been denied a base in the Americas. Face it, at this point it’s a win.

• Troll: showmethereal
• Replies: @Wokechoke
@Rich
More like Rome defeats Caledonia, exposes limits of Empire, Hadrian says Build the Wall!
Mr-Chow-Mein says:
January 3, 2026 at 7:15 pm GMT • 100 Words
The removing of a leader because the Americans could do it, and did, shows the world that little countries are nothing without nukes and how untrustworthy their military are and can still be brought with America dollars…the old gringos win again.

The Chinese have lost again, another source of oil is now cut off to them and if Iran is next then the U.S has succeeded in clipping China’s wings… without so much as a whimper from China.

And this kidnapping of a leader just after an official visit by China is another slap in their face… China is losing face everywhere.

• Agree: arbeit macht frei, Event Horizon, Henry Ford, Rich
• Thanks: Eugene Kusmiak, Sticker
• Troll: mulga mumblebrain
• Replies: @ProsecuteGenocide
@Mr-Chow-Mein
China and Russia can see the writing on the wall.
Siege and sanctions are a prelude to hot war. This is why China is accelerating expansion of its blue water fleet - it will not allow itself to be penned in to its home waters, like The Entente did to Germany from 1914 -1919.
Regime change means capture by the Western banking behemoth, and dictatorship by unelected finance. There is no way China is going to accept that humiliation (again). Their historical memory is strong.
The only option is to prepare for confrontation on the high seas. The US has signaled its willingness to extend sanctions to hijacking commercial shipping, and militarizing chokepoints in the Baltic and Arctic Oceans.
If there is to be a decisive battle, it is being prepared now. Trump wants battle ships, China is building nuclear aircraft carriers.
The US is like the victorious Japanese Imperial Army in 1943. Everything is going our way - a string of quick victories.
Overconfidence and hubris will bring a sharp and predictable end to the empire of chaos.
, @Eugene Kusmiak
@Mr-Chow-Mein
I never could understand what the Chinese were thinking when they invest billions in countries whose governments are obviously going to be toppled by the US: Panama, Venezuela, Iran, Russia. The US will now just steal everything China built there.
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, @Haxo Angmark
@Mr-Chow-Mein
well said.

the global "Axis of Resistance" (Russia, China, Iran) needs to respond to Trump's (brilliant, face it....) act of aggression with something other than their usual hot air:

China, could, for example, kidnap the secessionist leaders of Taiwan; or

Russia could kidnap Zelensky and put him on trial as a "neo-Nazi".

but, as we all know, neither Xi nor Babyface Tsar have the guts to challenge Uncle Schmuel in any substantial way.
Replies: @Decoy0527, @John1357642, @littlereddot, @simonphoenix28, @mulga mumblebrain
, @antibeast
@Mr-Chow-Mein
The Chinese have lost again, another source of oil is now cut off to them and if Iran is next then the U.S has succeeded in clipping China’s wings… without so much as a whimper from China.

China's domestic demand for imported oil has been declining for years with excess oil being either refined and exported as transport fuel or used as feedstock for its petrochemical industry. Besides, Venezuela's heavy oil requires heavy-oil refineries which already exist in the USA but so much in China.
And this kidnapping of a leader just after an official visit by China is another slap in their face… China is losing face everywhere.

This Trump kidnapping is a slap in the face of Latin Americans whom Marco Rubio wanted to court to side with the USA against China. Latin Americans will hate gringos even more as the USA revives its neo-colonial "Monroe Doctrine" against Latin America.
Replies: @Anonymous, @showmethereal
, @Rich23
@Mr-Chow-Mein
Yes, kidnap is the appropriate term to define the extrajudicial, criminal, extraordinary rendition of Nicolas Maduro.
Notice the compliant media and most bloggers play along with The Trump Administration's use of the word "capture" to label the kidnapping as a method of propaganda, blame shifting and reversing victim and offender.
Yet, Maduro could be seen as having cut a deal since he and his military offered no resistance to the attack on their sovereignty.
, @anonymous
@Mr-Chow-Mein
No nukes, no sovereignty. Other countries in the hemisphere are going to find that out very soon. And don't expect China or Russia to have your back. The JUSA remains in power by default. The Chinese are showing that they are the sick men of Asia again.
Replies: @John Johnson
, @迪路
@Mr-Chow-Mein
Then please check how much oil we imported from Venezuela.
We are all electric vehicles and don't rely heavily on petroleum.
Besides, the oil quality in Venezuela is too poor. It's probably only usable in the United States.
Replies: @John Johnson
, @mulga mumblebrain
@Mr-Chow-Mein
Wishful thinking, racist prick. China wins because the non-Western world sees that the West is intent on subjugating them, again, and forever. And the only things standing in the way are Iran, Russia and China. The US cannot conquer the whole world and control it, and certainly not run by Trump and the Jewintern cabal of cyber-crooks and delusionists like Alex Karp. with Israel controlling things from behind the curtain.
, @showmethereal
@Mr-Chow-Mein
5% of oil China imports is from Venezuela. In any event - that’s a pathetic analysis. All this does is turn the people of the world more against Americans. And let’s not forget that the U.S. and UK did this in Iran when Iran nationalized its energy industry. And what happened? 20 years later the Islamic Revolution happened. The U.S. took Iraq’s oil since 2003. Iraq is a disaster and allied with Iran…. Oh and Iraq sells oil to China. Bottom line is there will be unintended consequences for the U.S. - just as has been in the past.
Wokechoke says:
January 3, 2026 at 6:36 pm GMT • 100 Words
Actually, it’s a reversion to the norm.

War of Jenkin’s Ear is more pre Republic mid colonial era.

War of Jenkin’s Ear fought mostly by colonial marines raised in the American colonies and Royal Navy as the backbone. Fought in Cartegena Columbia.

George Washington’s older brother was a commissioned Royal Marine in the expedition commanded by Admiral Vernon.

• Agree: Rich

What Is Worse Than Donald Trump?

Philip Giraldi • January 1, 2026 • 287 Comments • Reply

Even when you begin to think that it can’t get any worse with Donald J. Trump as President of the United States the Orangeman does something that is so stupid and so reflective of a man who thinks only about himself that it makes one’s shudder in disbelief. Last week included some completely bizarre performances...

John Johnson says:
January 4, 2026 at 3:19 am GMT • 100 Words
@Rich
@John Johnson
It's the Obama mandates that have raised the cost of health care. It was written into the plan in the hope that the insurance system would eventually collapse and a socialized govt run insurance program could be instituted. Health insurance costs have been skyrocketing since its inception. This is nothing new. Blaming this on Trump either means you are unfamiliar with the cause of the problem or are one of those old time pinkos still pushing for socialized medicine
Replies: @John Johnson
Blaming this on Trump either means you are unfamiliar with the cause of the problem or are one of those old time pinkos still pushing for socialized medicine

I’m not unfamiliar with the program and I have explained it to many Fox watching conservatives that incorrectly assumed it was socialized medicine.

The ACA is modeled after Romneycare which was created by a libertarian organization.

Trump wanted an end to the marketplace subsidies which means higher costs for the White middle class and especially small business owners. Anyone on Medicaid will not notice a change.

Did you want to any of the following:
1. Health care costs for the middle class will rise due to Trump’s policies
2. Trump could have funded the subsidies instead of giving tax breaks to billionaires
3. Health care costs will not rise for anyone on Medicaid

Do you support Trump’s policy of giving tax breaks to foreign born billionaires like George Soros?

• LOL: Rich
Rich says:
January 4, 2026 at 12:09 am GMT • 100 Words
@John Johnson
@Rich
But, one party hates White people and one doesn’t. Trump belongs to the party that doesn’t hate my kids. That’s my rationale.
The end to ACA subsidies will raise the health care costs of middle class Whites while foreign born minorities on Medicaid won't see a change.
Did you want to deny that will happen? Or did you want to deny that he passed tax cuts for foreign born billionaires?
Which means Trump will have raised health care costs for middle class Whites while giving Soros and Musk a tax cut, correct?
That is your pro White president? Tax breaks for billionaires born outside the US?
Replies: @Rich
It’s the Obama mandates that have raised the cost of health care. It was written into the plan in the hope that the insurance system would eventually collapse and a socialized govt run insurance program could be instituted. Health insurance costs have been skyrocketing since its inception. This is nothing new. Blaming this on Trump either means you are unfamiliar with the cause of the problem or are one of those old time pinkos still pushing for socialized medicine

• Replies: @John Johnson
@Rich
Blaming this on Trump either means you are unfamiliar with the cause of the problem or are one of those old time pinkos still pushing for socialized medicine
I'm not unfamiliar with the program and I have explained it to many Fox watching conservatives that incorrectly assumed it was socialized medicine.
The ACA is modeled after Romneycare which was created by a libertarian organization.
Trump wanted an end to the marketplace subsidies which means higher costs for the White middle class and especially small business owners. Anyone on Medicaid will not notice a change.
Did you want to any of the following:
1. Health care costs for the middle class will rise due to Trump's policies
2. Trump could have funded the subsidies instead of giving tax breaks to billionaires
3. Health care costs will not rise for anyone on Medicaid
Do you support Trump's policy of giving tax breaks to foreign born billionaires like George Soros?

Donald Trump Is a Generic Republican in Populist Clothing

Kevin Barrett • January 2, 2026 • 176 Comments • Reply

Notsofast says:
January 3, 2026 at 6:17 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Rich
@Passing by
All governments are gangsters.
Replies: @Notsofast
so you tell yourself rich, being a gangster yourself. weak minds always resort to strong arm tactics, as they are intellectually bankrupt. all this proves is that the united states, can no longer play at a major league level, and has to resort to taking their mafioso, snatch and grab techniques, to a part of the world they can still bully.

• Agree: muh muh
• LOL: Rich
• Replies: @muh muh
@Notsofast
Even if we were to assume all governments are gangsters, we could easily ask what distinguishes one gangster from the other.

True strength lies in a far-sighted vision that benefits not only the people currently living beneath the auspices of a government, but generations to come. Lacking that vision, it's easy to see how Trumpanzees, living in the wealthiest nation on earth, and far removed from an actual, literal theater of war, perceive benefit only in an immediate or myopic sense, easily falling prey to the ephemeral promises of the Con Artist-in-Chief.

Incapable of taking a measured, long view or grasping how the disposition of wielding might to define right ultimately becomes an Ouroboros, devouring itself in the process, they act on impulse, like impetuous little toddlers bereft of any sense of consequence.

All of what's happening will return to America much sooner than most of us realize. Trump and his loyal simians don't really give a damn about anyone but themselves. They're certainly not concerned about their posterity. Were it otherwise, they'd behave a lot more wisely.
Same old same old says:
January 3, 2026 at 6:02 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Rich
@Kevin Barrett
The US didn't arrest and transport Chavez to America to be tried. There was an unsuccessful coup (backed by the US, without American troops) that failed. Maduro is no Chavez. Any new leader who doesn't cooperate with America now, will live in constant fear of being snatched. The old saying about people following the strong horse will go into effect in Latin America. In the end, it could work out well for Venezuela and the surrounding area. Ideology doesn't put food on your table, a large economic investment by American companies, will.
Replies: @Rurik, @Same old same old, @Kevin Barrett, @RadicalCenter, @Wokechoke

Ideology doesn’t put food on your table, a large economic investment by American companies, will.

Sure it will, Rabbi. That’s why American companies are so loved and respected around the world.

You know, if that was true at all, the US wouldn’t have had all this trouble in Latin America in the first place. American corporations looting the continent for everything they could is exactly why so much of it is hostile in the first place.

American companies will enslave and brutalize the locals. Just like they always have. Americans like you who gleefully support this won’t even benefit. The profits are privatized, the cost and risk is socialized. This is how the Repugnant Jew-party works and you, for some reason, love it.

• Agree: Notsofast, Kingsmeg, Passing by
• LOL: Rich
Rich says:
January 3, 2026 at 5:43 pm GMT
@Passing by
@Eugene Kusmiak
The US just demonstrated what gangsterism looks like.
Replies: @Rich
All governments are gangsters.

• Agree: Cloud Posternuke
• Replies: @Notsofast
@Rich
so you tell yourself rich, being a gangster yourself. weak minds always resort to strong arm tactics, as they are intellectually bankrupt. all this proves is that the united states, can no longer play at a major league level, and has to resort to taking their mafioso, snatch and grab techniques, to a part of the world they can still bully.
Replies: @muh muh
Rich says:
January 3, 2026 at 5:43 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Kevin Barrett
@Rich
Without US troops present Venezuela will become even more of a hornets' nest of anti-US fervor. When the US captured Hugo Chavez in a similar coup attempt in April 2002 the country rose up and forced Chavez's release. So Trump may or may not have permanently kidnapped Maduro, but he's permanently lost Venezuela and the rest of Latin America, which will remember this for generations.
Replies: @Rurik, @Rich, @Notsofast, @NobodyImportant
The US didn’t arrest and transport Chavez to America to be tried. There was an unsuccessful coup (backed by the US, without American troops) that failed. Maduro is no Chavez. Any new leader who doesn’t cooperate with America now, will live in constant fear of being snatched. The old saying about people following the strong horse will go into effect in Latin America. In the end, it could work out well for Venezuela and the surrounding area. Ideology doesn’t put food on your table, a large economic investment by American companies, will.

• Agree: BlackFlag
• LOL: RadicalCenter
• Replies: @Rurik
@Rich

Any new leader who doesn’t cooperate with America now, will live in constant fear of being snatched

you mean;
Any new leader who doesn’t cooperate with ZOG now, will live in constant fear of being snatched.
And ZOG = iron-handed, global tyranny, based on the whim of 'what's good for the Jews' at any given moment.
And what's good for the Jews = is the subjugation, and/or annihilation of any nation or people who put up any resistance to absolute Jewish domination.
, @Same old same old
@Rich

Ideology doesn’t put food on your table, a large economic investment by American companies, will.

Sure it will, Rabbi. That's why American companies are so loved and respected around the world.

You know, if that was true at all, the US wouldn't have had all this trouble in Latin America in the first place. American corporations looting the continent for everything they could is exactly why so much of it is hostile in the first place.

American companies will enslave and brutalize the locals. Just like they always have. Americans like you who gleefully support this won't even benefit. The profits are privatized, the cost and risk is socialized. This is how the Repugnant Jew-party works and you, for some reason, love it.
, @Kevin Barrett
@Rich
The 2002 kidnapping of Chavez was correctly viewed by Venezuelans as orchestrated by the US, which is why it failed. Trump's kidnapping Maduro is even more obvious a US operation, not a Venezuelan one. Venezuelans, and Latin Americans generally, HATE American imperialist crimes against their countries. If you thought Venezuelans didn't appreciate the Gringo Coup circa 2002, wait till you see how this plays out.
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, @RadicalCenter
@Rich
You know what else will “put food on your table” as a Venezuelan? Public ownership of natural resources, with the profits from their sale paid to every citizen in equal shares every year. Same arrangement we should have here in plutocrat USA.

If you’re so concerned about Venezuelans “putting food on the table”, leave them free from sanctions, threats, coups. “Let” them trade with other countries, and hire foreign expert workers and technicians, to repair, improve, and expand their infrastructure for extracting and transporting oil. Perhaps refining it as well. Some of these foreign corporations and workers will be Americans, as the Venezuelans choose.
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, @Wokechoke
@Rich
It’s hardly likely to do much good for Venezuela.
It’s probably worth your while to watch a few documentaries about 20th century Venezuela.
The period around 1930-50 is quite instructive. Tried to stay out of ww2 but couldn’t. The decline in the 1980s probably can’t be reversed. They peaked in prosperity in the 70s as a member of OPEC.

Jose Alberto Nino • December 20, 2025 • 116 Comments • Reply

The narrative that Donald Trump represents a revolutionary populist disruption of American politics has become conventional wisdom among political commentators. Yet this characterization crumbles under scrutiny. A comprehensive examination of Trump’s actual policy achievements reveals not a populist insurgent championing working-class Americans against entrenched elites, but rather a conventional Republican administration advancing standard conservative priorities...

Rich says:
January 3, 2026 at 5:05 pm GMT • 200 Words
@Brad Anbro
@Rich
The company was in Rockford, Illinois. They had been there for over 100 years. They primarily made decorative "tins" -metal containers such as the Sucrets containers and also special containers for Oreo cookies. They used a variety of punch presses, stamping presses and transfer presses. They had production lines that lithographed the artwork onto the metal, after which the metal was made into the containers. Most of the presses were as old as me, or older, but they kept the equipment maintained, in top-notch shape. Much of the older equipment had updated electrical controls, such as variable frequency drives for the motors and PLCs (programmable logic controllers) for interfacing machines with each other.

It was a declining market, but they still had a demand for their products. As an electrician, it was my job to troubleshoot and maintain the production equipment, as well as the building. In order to do that in an efficient manner, the use of wiring diagrams was required. I was not one to just replace parts, hoping that the parts replacement would solve the problem. I hated guesswork and would try to troubleshoot in the most logical manner. And that required wiring diagrams.

One day, they gave the job of "organizing" the wiring diagrams and other production information to a gal that headed up the janitorial department. She didn't know one machine from another and needless to say, the organizing job accomplished nothing. In addition to making the wiring diagrams easily accessible, it was required to have the exact parts available for replacement. The company spent as little as possible in keeping an inventory of replacement parts on hand.

Another thing that would have been very beneficial would've been to have an information sheet in each electrical cabinet, stating the brand and manufacturer's part number of the parts that would usually need replacing. This would've saved a lot of time in retrieving the needed part(s) for the repairs. None of this was done. When I would go to look for a wiring diagram, it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack and also, when attempting to locate a replacement part, more often than not it was NOT on hand.

I worked 3rd shift and would try to keep myself busy when I didn't have something to repair or have a project to work on. In order to pass the time, I took it upon myself to maintain the lighting in a first-class manner. I figured that the production workers deserved to have the best lighting possible, so I saw to it that they had good lighting.

I worked there for a few years and just got tired of it all, so I retired at the age of 62 years. I WANTED to keep working, as I got great satisfaction at having a SKILL that was needed and being one on whom others could depend. But I got so tired of everything being a "struggle" and decided to hang up my tool pouch and meter. The company is still in business and most of the older guys with whom I worked are also retired. I imagine that nothing has changed there, except for the company downsizing since I left.

So there you have it. Take care...
Replies: @Rich
If it’s JL Clark, according to news accounts (as of July 2025) they recently invested $10 million to upgrade equipment and management claims to have added 40% workforce expansion, which would go along with what I wrote. You, being on the inside, could probably see if it was rotting from the inside. Manufacturing is a tough environment because of all the breaks given to foreign companies.
Financialization of American companies looking to increase stock prices, or value before a sale sometimes results in creative accounting that hides a decline. I have a relative who went through this with the sawmill he worked at in upstate NY which was eventually sold to a Canadian company who took all the machinery and closed the business. He saw it coming and got out before it closed.
In the end, if mgmt is lying to fill their pockets, they’re still trying to make more money, they’re just also killing the company. Kind of like what democrats are trying to do to the country.

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@Rich
Yes, the name of the company is J.L. Clark. Some time ago, when they were flush with money, they bought a filter manufacturing concern, which was much larger and more profitable than their business of manufacturing consumer "tins." The parent corporation sold off the original business.

I got to know one of the "old timers" in the machine shop, who was the head of the Rockford Industrial Athletic Association (RIAA), a group of Rockford manufacturing concerns who competed against each other in a myriad of sporting events. Upon finding this out, I asked him if the RIAA was still in existence, since most RIAA members' factories had either closed up entirely or were a small shadow of their former selves. He told me that it was still in existence, but that it was just barely "hanging on."

Anyway, back to my point of having to have an INCREASE every year to be able to "make it" in business - I still think that this is complete nonsense. In the case of J.L. Clark, they could've been much more profitable than they were, simply by enlisting the cooperation of their employees.

While we're on the subject of "naming names," my first 19 years as an industrial electrician was at a Rockford area company by the name of Woodward Governor Company. When they hired me, I didn't know the first thing about properly wiring up a 120-volt outlet or making up an extension cord. I learned everything on-the-job, including troubleshooting machine tools, installing wiring & conduit, etc.

My first 15 years there was great. They ran the company like a big family and I knew practically everyone in the plant. I routinely did work at the residences of the company president and the CEO. I actually enjoyed going to work every day, because I was treated with respect. The company had a rich history of traditions, especially the "25 Year Club," where employees would be presented with a blazer and a lapel pin with a DIAMOND in it.

My 19th year anniversary had just passed and I went into the office of my supervisor's supervisor. I had known him for many years, as he was formerly the supervisor of the Inspection Department. I went into his office and announced that I'd just got my 19th year in and he said, "That's great, Brad!" I then told him that I would NOT be there for my 20th year. He asked me what I was talking about and I told him that I would soon be laid off. He said, "Oh no, Brad, you're job's safe," to which I replied, "Bullshit." Less than a month later myself and most of the rest of the Maintenance Department were laid off, along with MANY others throughout the plant.

For my first 15 years there, the unwritten 'Rule" was that if an employee showed up for work every day and did his or her job to the best of their ability, that person had a job FOR LIFE. All that went out the window. It didn't matter how well one did his or her job - if they had been there too long and their wages were "too high," they WERE GONE. The assistant supervisor of the Computer Department had been there for over 21 years and he was laid off, also. They had a BIG computer department, with mainframes, disc drives, tape readers, etc. The assistant supervisor knew much more than his supervisor, but that didn't matter...21 years and out the door.

These companies here in the United States, for the most part, do not give a damn about either their employees, the communities in which they are located or the country (the USA). Their ONLY concern is the short-term PROFIT outlook and attaining the maximum amount of profit any way possible. The USA is well on its way to becoming a Third World Banana Republic. I believe that all this is PLANNED - "they" want to remove ALL production from the USA and turn the country into a "playground" for the rich, so to speak.

Thank you.

Donald Trump Is a Generic Republican in Populist Clothing

Kevin Barrett • January 2, 2026 • 176 Comments • Reply

Rich says:
January 3, 2026 at 3:39 pm GMT
@anon
@Rich

Maduro going to go to prison for a lot of years. Looks like American troops aren’t staying in country, but they’ll be nearby as a threat to whoever takes over next. Starting to look like a big win for Trump.

It'll be a another win for trump until he gets "Kirked". The entire world has put up with this criminal bully for quite some time. I'll personally celebrate when he is removed from power by one of his victims.
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Don’t hold your breath. He’s on board with the owners of America, he should be okay.

Jose Alberto Nino • December 20, 2025 • 116 Comments • Reply

Rich says:
January 3, 2026 at 1:50 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Brad Anbro
@Rich
yOUR WORDS:

"The nature of the corporate beast is to always grow, to provide advancement opportunities for employees and raises for workers. No corporation shrugs, if they aren’t growing, they’re going out of business."

That, in my opinion, is absolute nonsense.

I worked for over 40 years in industry, as an industrial electrician. The company from which I retired, had a very peculiar profit sharing system. To describe it, I will just use hypothetical round numbers and by doing this, you should be able to understand it.

Say, in a year's time, the company had $100 million in revenue and $5 million in profit. The company officers thought that it was a good year and decided to reward its employees with a bonus. The following year, economic conditions softened, but they STILL managed $100 Billion in revenue and $5 billion in profit. BUT since it was not an INCREASE over the previous year, they decided to not pay any profit sharing.

Now, why in Hell is $5 billion profit in one year worth paying profit sharing on and not the next year? Of course, the employees could see right through this. So, they purposefully had a "down" year, so that the next year would be an "up" year and the profit sharing would return.

Rather than treating their employees in an equitable manner and enlisting the cooperation of the employees to improve operations (and profit), they decided to be greedy and keep all of the profit for themselves. Needless to say, employee morale was not what it should've been.

Thank you.
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I’d need a little more info on your company. Why weren’t they trying to increase profits? In an inflationary environment if you aren’t increasing profits you’re losing money. Unless you worked for a utility company or something similar, the nature of all corporations is to make as much money as it can. If they decided they didn’t need to expand and give more opportunities and money to newer, younger employees, they’d lose those up and comers. There’s definitely more to your story, sounds like some creative bookkeeping, but that’s just poor management. How’s the company doing now?

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@Rich
The company was in Rockford, Illinois. They had been there for over 100 years. They primarily made decorative "tins" -metal containers such as the Sucrets containers and also special containers for Oreo cookies. They used a variety of punch presses, stamping presses and transfer presses. They had production lines that lithographed the artwork onto the metal, after which the metal was made into the containers. Most of the presses were as old as me, or older, but they kept the equipment maintained, in top-notch shape. Much of the older equipment had updated electrical controls, such as variable frequency drives for the motors and PLCs (programmable logic controllers) for interfacing machines with each other.

It was a declining market, but they still had a demand for their products. As an electrician, it was my job to troubleshoot and maintain the production equipment, as well as the building. In order to do that in an efficient manner, the use of wiring diagrams was required. I was not one to just replace parts, hoping that the parts replacement would solve the problem. I hated guesswork and would try to troubleshoot in the most logical manner. And that required wiring diagrams.

One day, they gave the job of "organizing" the wiring diagrams and other production information to a gal that headed up the janitorial department. She didn't know one machine from another and needless to say, the organizing job accomplished nothing. In addition to making the wiring diagrams easily accessible, it was required to have the exact parts available for replacement. The company spent as little as possible in keeping an inventory of replacement parts on hand.

Another thing that would have been very beneficial would've been to have an information sheet in each electrical cabinet, stating the brand and manufacturer's part number of the parts that would usually need replacing. This would've saved a lot of time in retrieving the needed part(s) for the repairs. None of this was done. When I would go to look for a wiring diagram, it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack and also, when attempting to locate a replacement part, more often than not it was NOT on hand.

I worked 3rd shift and would try to keep myself busy when I didn't have something to repair or have a project to work on. In order to pass the time, I took it upon myself to maintain the lighting in a first-class manner. I figured that the production workers deserved to have the best lighting possible, so I saw to it that they had good lighting.

I worked there for a few years and just got tired of it all, so I retired at the age of 62 years. I WANTED to keep working, as I got great satisfaction at having a SKILL that was needed and being one on whom others could depend. But I got so tired of everything being a "struggle" and decided to hang up my tool pouch and meter. The company is still in business and most of the older guys with whom I worked are also retired. I imagine that nothing has changed there, except for the company downsizing since I left.

So there you have it. Take care...
Replies: @Rich

Trump Takes a Step Toward Liberty

Ron Paul • December 29, 2025 • 42 Comments • Reply

President Trump recently signed an executive order changing marijuana’s Controlled Substances Act classification from Schedule I to Schedule III. Schedule I is supposed to include especially dangerous drugs that are likely to be abused and have no medical purpose. Whatever one thinks of the wisdom and morality of using marijuana, the fact is it is...

bike-anarkist says:
January 2, 2026 at 5:45 pm GMT
@Rich
@Notsofast
I still wear my shorts and t-shirt when I hit the speed bag and heavy bag, but I don't spar like I used to. I'd happily meet up with you and punch the goofy smirk off your face.

Never joined cub scouts, I did spend a few years in the army. I know a couple young men who did the eagle scout thing, good kids. Kind of kids a spaghetti armed slacker like you would laugh at, then end up working for until you get fired for incompetence.
Replies: @bike-anarkist
A faggot that cannot stand criticism and sarcasm.
I’ll help you out: KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND REFRAIN FROM FALSE DICHOTOMIES.

• LOL: Rich

What Is Worse Than Donald Trump?

Philip Giraldi • January 1, 2026 • 287 Comments • Reply

An humble craftsman's other sockpuppet says:
January 3, 2026 at 5:10 am GMT
@Rich
@JunkyardDog
Okay, but there isn't an elected American politician (with the possible exception of Tom Massi) that doesn't fully support everything Israel does. Every single one down to the local dog catcher. But, one party hates White people and one doesn't. Trump belongs to the party that doesn't hate my kids. That's my rationale.
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~~Trump belongs to the party that doesn’t hate my kids.~~

Trump belongs to the party that doesn’t openly admit hating my kids.

FIFY

• Disagree: Rich