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Hello,

John Pearson said on Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 08:24:14AM +0930:

> Actually, probably the biggest problem you face with Debian is that
> afio has been removed from Debian because of licensing issues: the
> existing licenses aren't collectively clearly DFSG compliant, it
> isn't clear who the current copyright holder is, and noone knows how
> to contact the original author (Debian bug #509287).

There is a similar one here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449037 with a long
discussion on the licensing aspects.

I think that afio is free SW.

> So right now, unless afio gets back into Debian then Mondo will not
> make it in either, because of an unsatisfiable dependency on afio.

Well not really, as mondo could also use star. So Debian could well make
the dependency on it instead.

> Three alternative solutions would be:
> 
>    * Identify the current "owner" of the problematic code and get them
>      to talk to Debian about the license;

Look at the fedora discussion. Been there done that. No result.

>    * Identify or write a drop-in replacement for afio with a better
>      license;

Humm anyone around ?

>    * Use an alternative to afio; historically, tar was a bad choice due
>      to missing and broken features and an inconsistent interface acros
>      platforms, but in today's more modern, Linux/BSD centric world it
>      would probably work out better

No. What we want is a tool which aggregates file and compress them on a
file by file basis, so that if 1 bit of data is lost on the DR media,
you don't take the risk to loose all the aggregate.

Neither tar, nor cpio do that AFAIK. afio was chosen precisely for that
feature. Looked at dar, but never up to the point to add support.

And we could also start with minid + mindi-busybox which are also
needed.

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Heijmans S (spir-it) said on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 05:33:24PM +0200:

> what you could do is, add the following to your mondoarchive script;
> find  /<videodirectory> -name \*.mpg > /tmp/mondo_exclude_video_files
> and use this exclude file with mondoarchive with the -E option (http://trac.mondorescue.org/ticket/371)

Not really :-(
The -E option only takes directory ATM. No way to exclude files.

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On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Bruno Cornec <Bru...@hp...> wrote:
> I'll fix it, hopefully this week-end and propose to you another version
> to test.

Thanks, I'll look for it to try on Monday, or whenever it's ready.

ChrisA

Heijmans S (spir-it) said on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 02:48:44PM +0200:

> Checking mondorestore.log I see it cannot mount the iso with the data;
> mount: could not find any free loop device

yes. found also it on my side:
http://www.mondorescue.org/news.shtml

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Chris Angelico said on Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 09:31:52AM +1000:

> I tried the new MondoArchive by downloading the amd64 .deb and dpkg
> -i'ing it, and fired up the interactive interface. A few new options
> there. I had sshfs already mounted, and went through picking sane and
> logical options; it correctly figured out the sshfs target, although
> when it asked me for protocol, it defaulted to nfs (I changed it to
> sshfs). Then, just after the final confirmation, it bombed. Log
> attached.

Thanks for your log file. There is a bug here with th management of the
account name with SSHFS :-(
        [Main] libmondo-tools.c->post_param_configuration#637: Can't
resolve Network mount (mondotfr@10.61.0.5): Unknown host               

I'll fix it, hopefully this week-end and propose to you another version
to test.

Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Peter Clark said on Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 08:02:21AM -0400:

> OK, I tried restoring with v2.2.9.6-r2760 and still have the same issue
> where it's not mounting iso's properly.
> Log attached.

The problem seems to be only with 2.2.9.7 due to this:
mount: could not find any free loop device                                                                                                  
Cf: http://www.mondorescue.org/news.shtml

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Hugo Vanwoerkom said on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:13:41AM -0500:

> Yes, there is a USB harddrive, is that what you mean?

Yep.

> This moning a new version of udev (171-2) showed up, I'll try that + report.
> I can restore to LVM OK with Debian stable (6.0=Squeeze).

Ah ! didn't look closely enough to read sid ;-)

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Bruno Cornec wrote:
> Hugo Vanwoerkom said on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 09:40:16AM -0500:
> 
>> Mondorestore 2.2.9.7 still finds no LVM to mount as blockdevice.
>> Can't mount a device to restore to, so no mondorestore.log
> 
> Making 32768KB boot disk...............udev device manager found
> tar: lib/udev/alsa-utils: Cannot hard link to `lib64/udev/alsa-utils':
> Invalid cross-device link
> tar: lib/udev/create_static_nodes: Cannot hard link to
> `lib64/udev/ata_id': Invalid cross-device link
> 
> Seems a lot of udev content wasn't backed up correctly. Maybe the cause.
> Probably udev has no recreated the right devs.
> No USB device availble ?
> 

Yes, there is a USB harddrive, is that what you mean?
This moning a new version of udev (171-2) showed up, I'll try that + report.
I can restore to LVM OK with Debian stable (6.0=Squeeze).
Thanks Bruno.

Hugo

Hugo Vanwoerkom said on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 09:40:16AM -0500:

> Mondorestore 2.2.9.7 still finds no LVM to mount as blockdevice.
> Can't mount a device to restore to, so no mondorestore.log

Making 32768KB boot disk...............udev device manager found
tar: lib/udev/alsa-utils: Cannot hard link to `lib64/udev/alsa-utils':
Invalid cross-device link
tar: lib/udev/create_static_nodes: Cannot hard link to
`lib64/udev/ata_id': Invalid cross-device link

Seems a lot of udev content wasn't backed up correctly. Maybe the cause.
Probably udev has no recreated the right devs.
No USB device availble ?

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Hi,

Mondorestore 2.2.9.7 still finds no LVM to mount as blockdevice.
Can't mount a device to restore to, so no mondorestore.log

Hugo

Hi Stefan,

Thanks for your suggestion, it will probably be OK as a workaround.

My main purpose in reporting this was to alert Bruno that ticket #433
might have been prematurely closed.  The multiple methods were to
demonstrate what I had done to arrive at this conclusion, and the
supporting log files to help with diagnosis.

I am hoping a fundamental resolution to this can be released quickly
rather than work around the symptoms.  Once again thanks for speedy
reply.

Regards
SamK


On 29 June 2011 19:44, Heijmans S (spir-it) <Hei...@re...> wrote:
> Hi SamK,
>
> go for method 3 but since you are in expert mode, you have to do it all yourself :)
> - clean harddisk
> - create partitions
> - create LVM; vg + lv's
> - format fs's
> - start mondorestore but say no to
>        + erase and partition you harddrive (as you already have done it)
>        + do you want to format your harddrive (and already have done this as well)
>
> there is also a file called i-want-my-lvm in /tmp, I thought, which roughly describes the 1st 4 steps
>
> Regards,
> Stefan
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Hello Danjel,

[About becoming Debian mondo official packager]

Danjel Jungersen said on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:29:29AM +0200:
> I'm no programmer, but could learn it, it can't be that hard :-)

You don't really need to be a programmer. You need to understand Debian
packaging, and more over Debian charter and processes to apply.

> Done php / asp / html / javascript ' ing...

Should be pretty sufficient :-)

> I don't have that much time, but some could be spent to help the open 
> world...

Time is probably what missed the most for all of us these days :-(

> I will probably need some initial "training" by someone ;-)

Maybe Andree can pass the require info to you and explain the various
steps so you're aware. Or Hector who had interest in the tool some times
ago, or Daniel who is maintaining the busybox package and can help.

> Running debian on my servers with mondo.

That's very important as you then have all the tools to handle the
processes correctly.

And I'm interested to stay in the loop, as I envisioned to become a
Debian Maintainer, so would still be keen to know how to do that (for
the apps for which I'm also upstream).

Thanks a lot for your proposal,
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Peter Clark said on Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 06:23:10AM -0400:

> OK, actually I just did a full backup and went into mondorestore on the
> running system to grab one file off the set.  Same setup as before,
> mondo-2.2.9.7-0.20110626022856.fc14.x86_64, "mondorestore -Z iso" as the
> command line, mounted on /mnt/isodir (where the external USB drive was
> mounted for the backup).  This time the restore autoloaded through to ISO #7
> (beginning of large files maybe?) before it started prompting for images.

#7 is a good sign that you also found the bug in busybox which isn't
deleting the loop device when umounting the ISO. So as 8 loop are
available by default ...

If you do noy suffer from the tar problem go back to 1.7.3 or increase
the number of loop devices.

Cf: http://www.mondorescue.org/news.shtml
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Hello Fabien,

Fabien said on Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 12:51:17AM -0700:
> I just tested on another server connected to EVA storage array with plenty
> of devices.
> The test failed because no tape in DAT drive, but you can have a look to log
> attached.
> http://mondorescue-mailing-list.679749.n3.nabble.com/file/n3112879/mondoarchive.log

Thanks for the feedback. Captured at
http://trac.mondorescue.org/ticket/489

> As you can see, no crash during exclude list analyze, but still a pipe
> issue...

Yes and a strange -G result.

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e-mail samk-01 said on Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 05:51:27PM +0000:

> Hi Bruno,
> 
> On 25 June 2011 17:21, Bruno Cornec <Bru...@hp...> wrote:
> >
> > Please retry with hte beta under
> > ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/test/ubuntu/10.04 as it should fix that issue.
> >
> Installed:
> mindi-busybox_1.18.3-2_i386.deb

Try to downgrade to busybox 1.7.3.
Unfortunately, there seem to be a regression in busybox 1.18.3 which
doesn't detach the loop device when an ISO is umounted, creating the pb.

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Hello,

Heijmans S (spir-it) said on Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 08:28:43PM +0200:

> just checked the mondoarchive.log and I noticed the double '||' exclusion sepator when translating a device to mountpoint (/var/www||), is this correct?

>From a pure visual aspect, it's incorrect. Now from a feature
perspective, it works the same. Feel free to create a bug report so I do
not forget to look at it and fix it.

>                 [Main] libmondo-cli.c->process_switches#666: -N means we're now excluding |/mnt|/misc|/var/tmp/mondo|/var/www|||/mnt|

And let me know if you see it's not working as expected.

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Hi SamK,

go for method 3 but since you are in expert mode, you have to do it all yourself :)
- clean harddisk
- create partitions
- create LVM; vg + lv's
- format fs's
- start mondorestore but say no to
        + erase and partition you harddrive (as you already have done it)
        + do you want to format your harddrive (and already have done this as well)

there is also a file called i-want-my-lvm in /tmp, I thought, which roughly describes the 1st 4 steps

Regards,
Stefan

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This fault seems to indicate that ticket #433 was closed as fixed
prematurely in this release.  Suggest that the ticket is re-opened.

Installed
mindi-busybox_1.18.3-2_i386.deb
mindi_2.0.7.8-1_i386.deb
mondo_2.2.9.7-1_i386.deb

Each of the following methods fail.  The failure is different
depending upon the ISO used to create the bootable media.  Method
three destroys the data on the external non bootable USB hard disk and
the fixed disk before failing.  Presumably this will also occur when
booting in this way and restoring in an automatic mode.

The test-rig machine has a single fixed disk with 2 partitions sda1
and sda5 as swap.  The ISOs are created on an external non bootable
USB disk.  This has a single partition, sdb1.

A multi-part backup is successfully created directly in directory
/mondo on the USB hard disk.

Multi-Part Backup Set Consists of:
Tuesday-Zentyal-Base-1.iso
Tuesday-Zentyal-Base-2.iso
Tuesday-Zentyal-Base-3.iso
Tuesday-Zentyal-Base-4.iso

A log is attached for each of the following attempted restores.


Method1
Boot CD=mondorescue.iso
Bootcode=expert
Command Line=mondorestore -Z iso
ISO Mode Device=/dev/sdb1 (auto populated by Mondo)
ISO Mode Format=ext4
Restoring from external hard drive=yes
ISO Mode Path=/tmp/isodir/mondo (auto populated by Mondo)
Restore=Interactively
Read From=Hard Disk
Prefix=Tuesday-Zentyal-Base (auto populated by Mondo)
Message Failed to find config files/archives

Mondo command line shows location is mounted and files present
ls /tmp/isodir/mondo
Tuesday-Zentyal-Base-1.iso
Tuesday-Zentyal-Base-2.iso
Tuesday-Zentyal-Base-3.iso
Tuesday-Zentyal-Base-4.iso



Method2
Boot CD=mondorescue.iso
Bootcode=interactive
Restore=Interactively
Read From=Hard Disk
Prefix=Tuesday-Zentyal-Base (auto populated by Mondo)
ISO Mode Device=/dev/sdb1 (auto populated by Mondo)
ISO Mode Format=ext4
External Hard Drive=Yes
ISO Mode Path=/tmp/isodir/mondo (auto populated by Mondo)
Message Failed to find config files/archives

Mondo command line shows location is mounted and files present
ls /tmp/isodir/mondo
Tuesday-Zentyal-Base-1.iso
Tuesday-Zentyal-Base-2.iso
Tuesday-Zentyal-Base-3.iso
Tuesday-Zentyal-Base-4.iso



Method3
Boot CD=Tuesday-Zentyal-Base-1.iso
Bootcode=expert
Command Line=mondorestore -Z iso
ISO Mode Device=/dev/sdb1 (auto populated by Mondo)
ISO Mode Format=ext4
External Hard Drive=Yes
ISO Mode Path=/mnt/isodir/mondo
Restore=Interactively
Read From=Hard Disk
Prefix=Tuesday-Zentyal-Base
**At this point the mountlist is displayed and includes a mount
point=/mnt/backup.  This is the external disk that was mounted when
the backup was created.  This has the effect of reformatting both the
fixed disk and USB disk. The log was taken up to this point only.



Method4
Boot CD=Tuesday-Zentyal-Base-1.iso
Bootcode=interactive
Restore=Interactively
Read From=Hard Disk
Prefix=Tuesday-Zentyal-Base
ISO Mode Device=/dev/sdb1 (auto populated by Mondo)
ISO Mode Format=ext4
External Hard Drive=Yes
ISO Mode Path=/mnt/isodir/mondo
Message=Failed to find the config/archives
**This is the same for attempts using /mnt/isodir, /tmp/isodir/mondo,
/tmp/isodir

Mondo command line shows location is mounted and files present
ls /mnt/isodir/mondo
returns blank

ls /tmp/isodir/mondo
Tuesday-Zentyal-Base-1.iso
Tuesday-Zentyal-Base-2.iso
Tuesday-Zentyal-Base-3.iso
Tuesday-Zentyal-Base-4.iso


SamK

On 28/06/11 17:21, Bruno Cornec <Bru...@hp...> wrote:
> Hugo Vanwoerkom said on Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 08:16:38AM -0500:
>
>> Too bad. The maintainer has gone AWOL...
>> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=629585
> Andree hadn't time to deal woith this anymore :-(
>
> So is there any volunteer to jump and be the maintainer of
> mondo/mindi/mindi-busybox and maybe afio/buffer packages for Debian ?

Actually, probably the biggest problem you face with Debian is that afio 
has been removed from Debian because of licensing issues: the existing 
licenses aren't collectively clearly DFSG compliant, it isn't clear who 
the current copyright holder is, and noone knows how to contact the 
original author (Debian bug #509287).

So right now, unless afio gets back into Debian then Mondo will not make 
it in either, because of an unsatisfiable dependency on afio.

Three alternative solutions would be:

    * Identify the current "owner" of the problematic code and get them
      to talk to Debian about the license;
    * Identify or write a drop-in replacement for afio with a better
      license;
    * Use an alternative to afio; historically, tar was a bad choice due
      to missing and broken features and an inconsistent interface acros
      platforms, but in today's more modern, Linux/BSD centric world it
      would probably work out better

Regards,


John Pearson

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Hi,

what you could do is, add the following to your mondoarchive script;
find  /<videodirectory> -name \*.mpg > /tmp/mondo_exclude_video_files
and use this exclude file with mondoarchive with the -E option (http://trac.mondorescue.org/ticket/371)


Regards,
Stefan


________________________________

Van: Daniele Ferrara [mailto:da...@da...]
Verzonden: dinsdag 28 juni 2011 16:16
Aan: mon...@li...
Onderwerp: [Mondo-devel] backup - exclude file with extension



Hi all,
i need exclude all file video of image system.
I used option -E for exlude the directory, but i don't know for type file.
are how can i?
help J

thanks


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Hi all,
i need exclude all file video of image system.
I used option -E for exlude the directory, but i don't know for type file.
are how can i?
help J

thanks

Thanks, I will try it.

Il giorno mar, 28/06/2011 alle 07.53 -0400, Peter Clark ha scritto:
> Hmm, well you could try the bigger ISO sizes and use an ext4 formatted hard drive, still booting from the CDROM to get into the restore environment.  You need a scratch directory with 76+GB free to do that though.
> 
> Have you tried doing the restore directly to the USB hard drive with "mondoarchive -U -d /dev/<usbdrive>" and booting directly from the external hard drive to get into the restore environment?  Careful, it nukes /dev/<usbdrive> each time you do this so no incremental full system images (unless you swap the external drive every day).
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: leonardo saracini [mailto:leo...@ti...] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:43 AM
> To: Peter Clark
> Cc: Mondo mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Mondo-devel] documentation
> 
> Thank you to your answer.
> I try it.
> but I read this on
> http://www.mondorescue.org/docs/mondorescue-howto.html  :
> 
> > 10.2.10. Q: Can Mondo handle multi-CD backups and restores?
> > 
> > A: Yes, up to twenty CD per set. This 20-CD limit results from 
> > laziness on mondorescue's part. I'll be removed in the future.
> > However, if your system occupies more than 20 CD, may it's time for 
> > another type of media ?
> > 
> 
> my system need 384 4GB iso so cannot burn the first to a dvd.
> modoresque last time I have try cannot use 384 images file.
> 
> to fit the 20 iso files limitation I need an 76 GB image size but I cannot burne and 76 GB image ...
> 
> How can I do?
> 
> can you help to the best way ti instal mondo... on Ubuntu 10.10 64bit?
>  
> Is this a good choise?
> 
> > wget ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/ubuntu/`lsb_release -r|awk '{print 
> > $2}'`/mondorescue.sources.list sudo sh -c "cat mondorescue.sources.list >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
> > sudo sh -c "cat >> /etc/apt/preferences << EOF
> > Package: mindi
> > Pin: version 2.0.*
> > Pin-Priority: 500
> > 
> > Package: mondo
> > Pin: version 2.2.*
> > Pin-Priority: 500
> > EOF
> > "
> 
> 
> 
> Il giorno mar, 28/06/2011 alle 06.59 -0400, Peter Clark ha scritto:
> > Can the system boot from
> > CDROM?  What I do is backup my system onto a USB hard drive in 4GB ISOs and then copy the boot image to the hard drive. For disaster recovery or patch testing, I burn the CD image to a CDRW, boot from it and restore data from the iso files on the USB drive. Seems like it would solve your problem, just use CDROM to boot rather than the USB stick. 
> > 
> > On Jun 28, 2011, at 6:35 AM, leonardo saracini <leo...@ti...> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hallo,
> > > I need some help to found documentation to solve my problem.
> > > 
> > > assumption: 
> > > I do not wont to use media like dvd, cd.
> > > I use a ubuntu linux 11.04 64bit
> > > 
> > > I can divide my problem in 2 steps.
> > > 
> > > step 1)
> > > I wont to save on a usb stick all information for mbr, partitions 
> > > then on disaster eventuality i need to boot by this usb stick and 
> > > restore mbr and all my empty partitions.
> > > IMPORTANT: my partitions are ext3 on lvm on mdadm raid 1 on
> > > 2 disk 1,5 terabyte (sda, sdb)
> > > when the partition is restored I need step2: copy on them their old 
> > > data
> > > 
> > > step 2)
> > > I wont to save all my partitions image data ext3 on lvm on mdadm 
> > > raid 1
> > > (sda,sdb) on a backup disk ext3 sdc hdd (1,5 terabyte) to do this I 
> > > need to save splitting on several image files but the image file max 
> > > size cannot be to small otherwise I hit the number of image files 
> > > limitation. If I set a big image size then mondo try to use this 
> > > setting for files to put on usb stick but the stick is too small.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > It is possible to do what i need it with mondo?
> > > can I bypass the problem on image size?
> > > where can I found documentation to this specific problem?
> > > to download mondo can I use the ubuntu repository or is better 
> > > download a .deb file from http://www.mondorescue.org/ If I must use 
> > > http://www.mondorescue.org/ what file have I to download and in 
> > > which order have I to install.
> > > Is better to use this
> > > mondorescue.sources.list:
> > > deb ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/./ubuntu 11.04 contrib deb-src 
> > > ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/./ubuntu 11.04 contrib
> > > 
> > > Anyone can help?
> > > 
> > > Is better to use another software?
> > > 
> > > best, regard
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > ---------- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is 
> > > seriously valuable.
> > > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, 
> > > security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this 
> > > data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
> > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Mondo-devel mailing list
> > > Mon...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mondo-devel
> > 
> 
> --
> leonardo saracini <leo...@ti...>
> 
> 
> 

-- 
leonardo saracini <leo...@ti...>

Hello,

just installed the new mondo version;
rpm -qa|grep -e mondo -e mindi
mondo-2.2.9.7-1.rhel5
mindi-2.0.7.8-1.rhel5
mindi-busybox-1.18.3-3.rhel5

mondoarchive runs fine.

Get the following message, after booting with mondorescue iso in expert mode and using interactive mode to restore;
Please insert nfs #1 and press Enter.

Checking mondorestore.log I see it cannot mount the iso with the data;
mount: could not find any free loop device

running: mount | grep -F /mnt/cdrom > //mondo.tmp.C8OtOV/mondo-run-prog-thing.tmp 2> //mondo.tmp.C8OtOV/mondo-run-prog-thing.err
--------------------------------start of output-----------------------------
--------------------------------end of output------------------------------
...ran with res=256
        [Main] libmondo-devices.c->mount_media#1387: Mounting for Network thingy
        [Main] libmondo-devices.c->mount_media#1388: isodir = /tmp/isodir
        [Main] libmondo-devices.c->mount_media#1449: (mount_media) --- command = mount /tmp/isodir/icivm011/20110628-123530/mondorescue-1.iso -t iso9660 -o loop,ro /mnt/cdrom
running: mount /tmp/isodir/icivm011/20110628-123530/mondorescue-1.iso -t iso9660 -o loop,ro /mnt/cdrom > //mondo.tmp.C8OtOV/mondo-run-prog-thing.tmp 2> //mondo.tmp.C8OtOV/mondo-run-prog-thing.err
--------------------------------start of output-----------------------------
mount: could not find any free loop device
--------------------------------end of output------------------------------
...ran with res=512
        [Main] libmondo-devices.c->mount_media#1455: Failed to mount device.
running: sync > //mondo.tmp.C8OtOV/mondo-run-prog-thing.tmp 2> //mondo.tmp.C8OtOV/mondo-run-prog-thing.err
--------------------------------start of output-----------------------------
--------------------------------end of output------------------------------
...ran just fine. :-)
running: mount /tmp/isodir/icivm011/20110628-123530/mondorescue-1.iso -t iso9660 -o loop,ro /mnt/cdrom > //mondo.tmp.C8OtOV/mondo-run-prog-thing.tmp 2> //mondo.tmp.C8OtOV/mondo-run-prog-thing.err
--------------------------------start of output-----------------------------
mount: could not find any free loop device
--------------------------------end of output------------------------------
...ran with res=512
        [Main] libmondo-devices.c->mount_media#1455: Failed to mount device.
running: sync > //mondo.tmp.C8OtOV/mondo-run-prog-thing.tmp 2> //mondo.tmp.C8OtOV/mondo-run-prog-thing.err
--------------------------------start of output-----------------------------
--------------------------------end of output------------------------------
...ran just fine. :-)
        [Main] libmondo-devices.c->mount_media#1462: Failed, despite 2 attempts
        [Main] libmondo-files.c->last_line_of_file#508: Tring to get last line of nonexistent file (/archives/THIS-CD-NUMBER)
                [Main] libmondo-devices.c->insist_on_this_cd_number#1525: Currently, we hold 0 but we want 1
                [Main] libmondo-devices.c->insist_on_this_cd_number#1530: Insisting on nfs #1
        [Main] libmondo-files.c->last_line_of_file#508: Tring to get last line of nonexistent file (/archives/THIS-CD-NUMBER)
[Main] libmondo-devices.c->is_this_device_mounted#1138: Is /mnt/cdrom mounted?
                        [Main] libmondo-devices.c->is_this_device_mounted#1167: tmp (command) = 'cat /proc/swaps | grep -E "^/mnt/cdrom " > /dev/null 2> /dev/null'
Please insert nfs #1 and press Enter.
        [Main] libmondo-files.c->last_line_of_file#508: Tring to get last line of nonexistent file (/archives/THIS-CD-NUMBER)
[Main] libmondo-devices.c->is_this_device_mounted#1138: Is /mnt/cdrom mounted?
                        [Main] libmondo-devices.c->is_this_device_mounted#1167: tmp (command) = 'cat /proc/swaps | grep -E "^/mnt/cdrom " > /dev/null 2> /dev/null'
Please insert nfs #1 and press Enter.
        [Main] libmondo-files.c->last_line_of_file#508: Tring to get last line of nonexistent file (/archives/THIS-CD-NUMBER)
[Main] libmondo-devices.c->is_this_device_mounted#1138: Is /mnt/cdrom mounted?
                        [Main] libmondo-devices.c->is_this_device_mounted#1167: tmp (command) = 'cat /proc/swaps | grep -E "^/mnt/cdrom " > /dev/null 2> /dev/null'
Please insert nfs #1 and press Enter.
        [Main] libmondo-files.c->last_line_of_file#508: Tring to get last line of nonexistent file (/archives/THIS-CD-NUMBER)
[Main] libmondo-devices.c->is_this_device_mounted#1138: Is /mnt/cdrom mounted?
                        [Main] libmondo-devices.c->is_this_device_mounted#1167: tmp (command) = 'cat /proc/swaps | grep -E "^/mnt/cdrom " > /dev/null 2> /dev/null'
Please insert nfs #1 and press Enter.


Any idea why?

Will also try to restore it from data iso itself.


Regards,
Stefan

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Hmm, well you could try the bigger ISO sizes and use an ext4 formatted hard drive, still booting from the CDROM to get into the restore environment.  You need a scratch directory with 76+GB free to do that though.

Have you tried doing the restore directly to the USB hard drive with "mondoarchive -U -d /dev/<usbdrive>" and booting directly from the external hard drive to get into the restore environment?  Careful, it nukes /dev/<usbdrive> each time you do this so no incremental full system images (unless you swap the external drive every day).

-----Original Message-----
From: leonardo saracini [mailto:leo...@ti...] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:43 AM
To: Peter Clark
Cc: Mondo mailing list
Subject: Re: [Mondo-devel] documentation

Thank you to your answer.
I try it.
but I read this on
http://www.mondorescue.org/docs/mondorescue-howto.html  :

> 10.2.10. Q: Can Mondo handle multi-CD backups and restores?
> 
> A: Yes, up to twenty CD per set. This 20-CD limit results from 
> laziness on mondorescue's part. I'll be removed in the future.
> However, if your system occupies more than 20 CD, may it's time for 
> another type of media ?
> 

my system need 384 4GB iso so cannot burn the first to a dvd.
modoresque last time I have try cannot use 384 images file.

to fit the 20 iso files limitation I need an 76 GB image size but I cannot burne and 76 GB image ...

How can I do?

can you help to the best way ti instal mondo... on Ubuntu 10.10 64bit?
 
Is this a good choise?

> wget ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/ubuntu/`lsb_release -r|awk '{print 
> $2}'`/mondorescue.sources.list sudo sh -c "cat mondorescue.sources.list >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
> sudo sh -c "cat >> /etc/apt/preferences << EOF
> Package: mindi
> Pin: version 2.0.*
> Pin-Priority: 500
> 
> Package: mondo
> Pin: version 2.2.*
> Pin-Priority: 500
> EOF
> "



Il giorno mar, 28/06/2011 alle 06.59 -0400, Peter Clark ha scritto:
> Can the system boot from
> CDROM?  What I do is backup my system onto a USB hard drive in 4GB ISOs and then copy the boot image to the hard drive. For disaster recovery or patch testing, I burn the CD image to a CDRW, boot from it and restore data from the iso files on the USB drive. Seems like it would solve your problem, just use CDROM to boot rather than the USB stick. 
> 
> On Jun 28, 2011, at 6:35 AM, leonardo saracini <leo...@ti...> wrote:
> 
> > Hallo,
> > I need some help to found documentation to solve my problem.
> > 
> > assumption: 
> > I do not wont to use media like dvd, cd.
> > I use a ubuntu linux 11.04 64bit
> > 
> > I can divide my problem in 2 steps.
> > 
> > step 1)
> > I wont to save on a usb stick all information for mbr, partitions 
> > then on disaster eventuality i need to boot by this usb stick and 
> > restore mbr and all my empty partitions.
> > IMPORTANT: my partitions are ext3 on lvm on mdadm raid 1 on
> > 2 disk 1,5 terabyte (sda, sdb)
> > when the partition is restored I need step2: copy on them their old 
> > data
> > 
> > step 2)
> > I wont to save all my partitions image data ext3 on lvm on mdadm 
> > raid 1
> > (sda,sdb) on a backup disk ext3 sdc hdd (1,5 terabyte) to do this I 
> > need to save splitting on several image files but the image file max 
> > size cannot be to small otherwise I hit the number of image files 
> > limitation. If I set a big image size then mondo try to use this 
> > setting for files to put on usb stick but the stick is too small.
> > 
> > 
> > It is possible to do what i need it with mondo?
> > can I bypass the problem on image size?
> > where can I found documentation to this specific problem?
> > to download mondo can I use the ubuntu repository or is better 
> > download a .deb file from http://www.mondorescue.org/ If I must use 
> > http://www.mondorescue.org/ what file have I to download and in 
> > which order have I to install.
> > Is better to use this
> > mondorescue.sources.list:
> > deb ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/./ubuntu 11.04 contrib deb-src 
> > ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/./ubuntu 11.04 contrib
> > 
> > Anyone can help?
> > 
> > Is better to use another software?
> > 
> > best, regard
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ---------- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is 
> > seriously valuable.
> > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, 
> > security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this 
> > data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mondo-devel mailing list
> > Mon...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mondo-devel
> 

--
leonardo saracini <leo...@ti...>

Thank you to your answer.
I try it.
but I read this on
http://www.mondorescue.org/docs/mondorescue-howto.html  :

> 10.2.10. Q: Can Mondo handle multi-CD backups and restores?
> 
> A: Yes, up to twenty CD per set. This 20-CD limit results from
> laziness on mondorescue's part. I'll be removed in the future.
> However, if your system occupies more than 20 CD, may it's time for
> another type of media ?
> 

my system need 384 4GB iso so cannot burn the first to a dvd.
modoresque last time I have try cannot use 384 images file.

to fit the 20 iso files limitation I need an 76 GB image size
but I cannot burne and 76 GB image ...

How can I do?

can you help to the best way ti instal mondo... on Ubuntu 10.10 64bit?
 
Is this a good choise?

> wget ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/ubuntu/`lsb_release -r|awk '{print $2}'`/mondorescue.sources.list
> sudo sh -c "cat mondorescue.sources.list >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
> sudo sh -c "cat >> /etc/apt/preferences << EOF
> Package: mindi
> Pin: version 2.0.*
> Pin-Priority: 500
> 
> Package: mondo
> Pin: version 2.2.*
> Pin-Priority: 500
> EOF
> "



Il giorno mar, 28/06/2011 alle 06.59 -0400, Peter Clark ha scritto:
> Can the system boot from
> CDROM?  What I do is backup my system onto a USB hard drive in 4GB ISOs and then copy the boot image to the hard drive. For disaster recovery or patch testing, I burn the CD image to a CDRW, boot from it and restore data from the iso files on the USB drive. Seems like it would solve your problem, just use CDROM to boot rather than the USB stick. 
> 
> On Jun 28, 2011, at 6:35 AM, leonardo saracini <leo...@ti...> wrote:
> 
> > Hallo,
> > I need some help to found documentation to solve my problem.
> > 
> > assumption: 
> > I do not wont to use media like dvd, cd.
> > I use a ubuntu linux 11.04 64bit
> > 
> > I can divide my problem in 2 steps.
> > 
> > step 1)
> > I wont to save on a usb stick all information for 
> > mbr,
> > partitions
> > then on disaster eventuality i need to boot by this usb stick
> > and restore mbr and all my empty partitions.
> > IMPORTANT: my partitions are ext3 on lvm on mdadm raid 1 on
> > 2 disk 1,5 terabyte (sda, sdb)
> > when the partition is restored I need step2: copy on them their old data
> > 
> > step 2) 
> > I wont to save all my partitions image data ext3 on lvm on mdadm raid 1
> > (sda,sdb) on a backup disk ext3 sdc hdd (1,5 terabyte)
> > to do this I need to save splitting on several image files but
> > the image file max size cannot be to small otherwise I hit the number of
> > image files limitation. If I set a big image size then mondo try to use
> > this setting for files to put on usb stick but the stick is too small.
> > 
> > 
> > It is possible to do what i need it with mondo?
> > can I bypass the problem on image size?
> > where can I found documentation to this specific problem?
> > to download mondo can I use the ubuntu repository or is better download
> > a .deb file from http://www.mondorescue.org/
> > If I must use http://www.mondorescue.org/ what file have I to download
> > and in which order have I to install.
> > Is better to use this
> > mondorescue.sources.list:
> > deb ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/./ubuntu 11.04 contrib
> > deb-src ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/./ubuntu 11.04 contrib
> > 
> > Anyone can help?
> > 
> > Is better to use another software?
> > 
> > best, regard
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable.
> > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security 
> > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes 
> > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mondo-devel mailing list
> > Mon...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mondo-devel
> 

-- 
leonardo saracini <leo...@ti...>