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Log Message:
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Misc changes to init including:
* Save & restore /dev/boot_device as well as /dev/cdrom for devfs
* Don't try to save&restore /dev/cdrom in two places

Modified Files:
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    /data/cvs/mondorescue/mindi-perl/rootfs/sbin:
        init

Log Message:
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chmod +x analyze-my-lvm
Move module with comma to avoid Perl's warnings
Merge changes from mindi-devel into init

Modified Files:
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    /data/cvs/mondorescue/mindi-perl:
        install.sh
        mindi
    /data/cvs/mondorescue/mindi-perl/rootfs/sbin:
        init

Log Message:
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Add new modules from mindi.sh.

Modified Files:
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    /data/cvs/mondorescue/mindi-perl:
        mindi

Log Message:
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Working on DVD-RW support

Modified Files:
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    /data/cvs/mondorescue/mondo-devel/mondo/common:
        libmondo-archive.c

Log Message:
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Put the progress information in the same window as the option setting.

Modified Files:
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    /data/cvs/mondorescue/mondo-devel/mondo/xmondo:
        xmondo.cpp
        xmondo.h
        xmondobackup.cpp
        xmondobackup.h
        xmondorestore.cpp

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On Saturday 29 November 2003 09:29, Joshua Oreman wrote:
> Free up more space on your root partition! :-)

Or symlink /root/images out to some other larger partition.

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On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 12:17:19AM +1100 or thereabouts, Charlie Garrison wrote:
> Good morning,
> 
> I have recently installed mondo/mindi and all is working well. But I want to
> change the location of the images/mindi directory (currently defaulting to
> /root/images/mindi) when running mondoarchive with command line options.
> 
> The manpage shows the -T and -S options for mondoarchive but I can't find any
> way to change the options passed to mindi. I can also see that changing
> $imagesdir in the mindi script should work, but I'd rather leave the file
> as-is so I don't complicate future updates.

Mindi (sh) doesn't support this unless you change the script.

> 
> Should I just create a symlink at /root/images/mindi to a different partition,
> or is there a better solution?

That should work, or use mindi-perl (what will soon be mindi 2.0; cvs checkout mindi-perl)
and add this line to /etc/mindi.conf:
$ImagesDir = "/your/imagesdir/location/here";
or use the -i <directory> option when running mindi manually (not from mondoarchive).

> 
> The problem I have is that there is only 48MB free after creating files in
> /root/images/mindi which means subsequent runs of mondoarchive fail due to
> limited disk space.

Free up more space on your root partition! :-)

-- Josh

Good morning,

I have recently installed mondo/mindi and all is working well. But I want to
change the location of the images/mindi directory (currently defaulting to
/root/images/mindi) when running mondoarchive with command line options.

The manpage shows the -T and -S options for mondoarchive but I can't find any
way to change the options passed to mindi. I can also see that changing
$imagesdir in the mindi script should work, but I'd rather leave the file
as-is so I don't complicate future updates.

Should I just create a symlink at /root/images/mindi to a different partition,
or is there a better solution?

The problem I have is that there is only 48MB free after creating files in
/root/images/mindi which means subsequent runs of mondoarchive fail due to
limited disk space.

Thanks for any help.

Charlie
-- 
   Charlie Garrison    gar...@ze...
   PO Box 141, Windsor, NSW 2756, Australia 

On Thursday 27 November 2003 15:49, Michael W.Cocke wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:38:40 +0100, you wrote:
> >On Wednesday 26 November 2003 21:15, Michael W.Cocke wrote:
> >> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:40:53 -0000, you wrote:
> >> >Sounds as if something is pointing to 2.4.21-99 as the kernel
> >> > version. Type 'uname -r' and see what you get. Also, 'ls -l
> >> > /boot/vmlinuz*' and 'ls /lib/modules'.
> >>
> >> <banging head on desk>  SuSE seems to ship with an error...
> >> The kernel that installs from the DVD is 2.4.21-144-default, but
> >
> >Nope.. SuSE installed -99 from the DVD. The -144 is available for
> >download as a fix. Now as to whether it updates the rest of the
> > system I'm not sure.
>
> yup. My DVD does indeed install 144.  Looks like SuSE might be
> updating the disks as they ship or something.  I don't automatically
> download fixes and I sure as heck didn't install kernel updates on a
> system that I can't (couldn't) backup.

That's a possibility. I purchased the pro update instead of the full 
pro. But I've only had it about two weeks. Install was on the 14th 
according to the log, and updated it just this past week to -144. 

> >It didn't. Try simply using /boot/vmlinuz for the command line. I've
> >done two different systems so far. One a P4 and the other a dual
> > athlon system on SuSE 9. Both were updated before I did the update.
> > Didn't have any problems with backups.
>
> I didn't have a /boot/vmlinux file.  I still don't, for that matter.
> I reinstalled from the CDs, now I have a
> /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-99-default file, and Mondo and Mindo
> (cvs_20031122) are working fine. Definitely something odd happening.

I'll give it a shot as soon as I get home. It will give me something to 
check out. Don't have an CD's here to run the test.

Mike


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Agenda:-

1. Code freeze

2. Spec files

3. New 2.6.x support

4. DVD support

5. Bugs outstanding


-Hugo

On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 01:43:28PM -0600 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, 
Caroline Hardin thought:
> 
> If I just make a bootable CD image it gives me "NB. Mindi's bootable CD 
> always sues isolinux. For a bootable cd w/ Lilo, use Mondo" but creates the 
> images. I used cdrecord to burn them onto a CD. Can I use this CD to 
> restore from? or can I only use the CD that is made after Mondo runs?

Don't forget that you only need to burn /root/images/mindi.iso to CD (with
'cdrecord /root/images/mindi.iso') to get a bootable recovery CD.  To use
this, you must have your backups stored on a server or something.  If you
want to store your backups on CD, you need either to burn 1.iso, 2.iso etc
to CD after the backup completes (if you ran 'mondoarchive -Oi') or run
'mondoarchive -Od' to create CDs directly during the backup.  I favour
'-Oi' for a full backup so you don't have to babysit the backup changing
CDs but can burn them all after.  For a differential backup, '-Ow' works
nicely 'cos it'll fit on one CDRW.

Conor
-- 
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Domestic Sysadmin :-)
---------------------
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  9:58pm  up 35 days, 15:07,  0 users,  load average: 0.20, 0.05, 0.01
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  9:56pm  up 35 days, 14:59,  1 user,  load average: 0.25, 0.16, 0.05

Log Message:
-----------
Add filelist saving ability.

Modified Files:
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    /data/cvs/mondorescue/mondo-devel/mondo/xmondo:
        xmondorestore.cpp

Log Message:
-----------
Add XMondo restore functionality code to the repository.

Added Files:
-----------
    /data/cvs/mondorescue/mondo-devel/mondo/xmondo:
        xmondorestore.cpp
        xmondorestore.h

Log Message:
-----------
Major feature enhancements to XMondo.

Modified Files:
--------------
    /data/cvs/mondorescue/mondo-devel/mondo/xmondo:
        Makefile.am
        Makefile.in
        xmondo.cpp
        xmondo.h

> > ...ran with errors.
> > Mindi --makemountlist failed for some reason. Bad fstab file?
> > Failed. Your distribution did not pass Mondo's sanity test.
> > In my fstab file the following USB flash device:
> > /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 auto noauto,user,exec 0 0
> > #HOTPLUGB3Fu.dVr3Gr_57NF
> Yep, mine does the same thing. I've got a usb flash drive that I have to
> remember to clean up before backing up. At least in 8.1 it happened. I
> just checked the fstab in 9.0, and it seems to have cleaned itself.

Add /dev/sda1 to the list of devices you exclude in your call to
mondoarchive, e.g.:-

# mondoarchive -OVc 8 -gF -E "/mnt/pr0n /dev/sda1"

-Hugo

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:38:40 +0100, you wrote:

>On Wednesday 26 November 2003 21:15, Michael W.Cocke wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:40:53 -0000, you wrote:
>> >Sounds as if something is pointing to 2.4.21-99 as the kernel
>> > version. Type 'uname -r' and see what you get. Also, 'ls -l
>> > /boot/vmlinuz*' and 'ls /lib/modules'.
>>
>> <banging head on desk>  SuSE seems to ship with an error...
>> The kernel that installs from the DVD is 2.4.21-144-default, but
>
>Nope.. SuSE installed -99 from the DVD. The -144 is available for 
>download as a fix. Now as to whether it updates the rest of the system 
>I'm not sure. 

yup. My DVD does indeed install 144.  Looks like SuSE might be
updating the disks as they ship or something.  I don't automatically
download fixes and I sure as heck didn't install kernel updates on a
system that I can't (couldn't) backup.  


>It didn't. Try simply using /boot/vmlinuz for the command line. I've 
>done two different systems so far. One a P4 and the other a dual athlon 
>system on SuSE 9. Both were updated before I did the update. Didn't 
>have any problems with backups.

I didn't have a /boot/vmlinux file.  I still don't, for that matter. I
reinstalled from the CDs, now I have a /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-99-default
file, and Mondo and Mindo (cvs_20031122) are working fine. Definitely
something odd happening.

Mike-


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Stan Benoit wrote:-
> I'm pleased to report that DDS-3, NFS, CD-R/w are all 
> working well to date.  

That's excellent news. :-D

-Hugo

On Thursday 27 November 2003 14:35, Stan Benoit wrote:
Hi Stan,

> FYI
>
> I'm running some testing on Suse 8.2 pro and mondo. I'm pleased to
> report that DDS-3, NFS, CD-R/w are all working well to date.
>
> One strange issue popped up with my flash devices, minor and easy to
> work around.
>
> Versions:
>
> mindi-0.87_cvs_20031122-1
> mondo-1.67_cvs_20031122-1
>
> Snip log--->
>
> ...ran with errors.
> Mindi --makemountlist failed for some reason. Bad fstab file?
> Failed.
> Your distribution did not pass Mondo's sanity test.
>
> ---> end Snip
>
> In my fstab file the following USB flash device:
>
> /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 auto noauto,user,exec 0 0
> #HOTPLUGB3Fu.dVr3Gr_57NF

Yep, mine does the same thing. I've got a usb flash drive that I have to 
remember to clean up before backing up. At least in 8.1 it happened. I 
just checked the fstab in 9.0, and it seems to have cleaned itself.

Mike

> Suse added this when the usb flash device was plugged in.
>
> Commenting out this entry got mondoarchive back on line :)
>
> I'm pleased to report that DDS-3, NFS, CD-R/w are all working well to
> date.

FYI

I'm running some testing on Suse 8.2 pro and mondo. I'm pleased to
report that DDS-3, NFS, CD-R/w are all working well to date. 

One strange issue popped up with my flash devices, minor and easy to
work around. 

Versions:

mindi-0.87_cvs_20031122-1
mondo-1.67_cvs_20031122-1

Snip log--->

...ran with errors.
Mindi --makemountlist failed for some reason. Bad fstab file?
Failed.
Your distribution did not pass Mondo's sanity test.

---> end Snip

In my fstab file the following USB flash device:

/dev/sda1 /media/sda1 auto noauto,user,exec 0 0 #HOTPLUGB3Fu.dVr3Gr_57NF

Suse added this when the usb flash device was plugged in.  

Commenting out this entry got mondoarchive back on line :)

I'm pleased to report that DDS-3, NFS, CD-R/w are all working well to
date.  

-- 
Stan Benoit <sa...@ma...>

On Wednesday 26 November 2003 21:15, Michael W.Cocke wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:40:53 -0000, you wrote:
> >Sounds as if something is pointing to 2.4.21-99 as the kernel
> > version. Type 'uname -r' and see what you get. Also, 'ls -l
> > /boot/vmlinuz*' and 'ls /lib/modules'.
>
> <banging head on desk>  SuSE seems to ship with an error...
> The kernel that installs from the DVD is 2.4.21-144-default, but

Nope.. SuSE installed -99 from the DVD. The -144 is available for 
download as a fix. Now as to whether it updates the rest of the system 
I'm not sure. 

> uname -r shows 2.4.21-99.
>
> So help me, I'm thinking about moving to Windows!


Naa. don't do that.. It's much more of a PITA.
> >If you see anything pointing to 2.4.21-99, let me know. I'd like to
> > know which componenet of your installation is pointing to a
> > non-existent kernel.
>
> <sigh>  So would I...
>
> >> My question is: What the heck is Mindi and Mondo doing looking for
> >> a kernel that has NEVER existed on this system?

It didn't. Try simply using /boot/vmlinuz for the command line. I've 
done two different systems so far. One a P4 and the other a dual athlon 
system on SuSE 9. Both were updated before I did the update. Didn't 
have any problems with backups.

Mike


> >A log file would be helpful...
>
> Question:  Is it permissible to post a message to the list with an
> attachment, or should I email it to you directly?
>
> >> The day I installed SuSE 9, the kernel was 2.4.12-144-default. 
> >> Where the hell is M&M getting -99 ???
> >>
> >>From your own system.
>
> You're absolutely correct, and I'm getting way too frustrated about
> this.  I apologize.
>
> >> Does this mean that my recovery set is trash?
> >
> >Unlikely. Boot from the CD/floppies and run Compare Mode.
>
> I'm kind of afraid to..  Is there ANY possibility AT ALL that if I do
> that I'll lose the data on the server?
>
> Mike-
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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:45:57 -0000, you wrote:

>Michael W.Cocke wrote:-
>> SuSE 9.0 shipped with one kernel on the CDs (2.4.21-99-default)and
>> a different kernel on the DVD (2.4.21-144-default).
>> If that didn't confuse people who didn't realize it enough, there
>> seems to be a small problem with the -144 kernel.  Somewhere inside
>> (and I have NO clue where) it still thinks it's -99, and refers to the
>> -99 modules path
>
>That's not good.
>
>Michael, I know you're busy but will you please run a few commands on both
>PCs to help me fix this?


Hugo, I'd be perfectly willing to help, but I don't have an insane
(appropriate term) system anymore.  When I realized that my primary
file server was running a krufted OS, I pulled an all-nighter and
reinstalled the world- from SuSE 9.0 CDs (2.4.21-99-default).  FYI,
Mindi and Mondo (cvs_20031122) seem to be working perfectly on that
system now.

Let me look at my logs and see if I have any other insane systems
around... be a day or 2 (I seem to recall today is a holiday, so I
won't get any work done).


Mike-

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Michael W.Cocke wrote:-
> So help me, I'm thinking about moving to Windows!

I sympathize. :)

[...]
> >Unlikely. Boot from the CD/floppies and run Compare Mode.
> I'm kind of afraid to..  Is there ANY possibility AT ALL that if I do
> that I'll lose the data on the server?

No. IIRC, If you boot into Compare Mode the partitions are mounted
read-only. Compare Mode is totally noninvasive.

-Hugo

Michael W.Cocke wrote:-
> SuSE 9.0 shipped with one kernel on the CDs (2.4.21-99-default)and
> a different kernel on the DVD (2.4.21-144-default).
> If that didn't confuse people who didn't realize it enough, there
> seems to be a small problem with the -144 kernel.  Somewhere inside
> (and I have NO clue where) it still thinks it's -99, and refers to the
> -99 modules path

That's not good.

Michael, I know you're busy but will you please run a few commands on both
PCs to help me fix this?

Try the following:-

# strings /boot/vmlinuz | fgrep "2.4.21" | head -n10
(I'm assuming /boot/vmlinuz is your current kernel)

For the same kernel, type:-
# uname -r

I'd like to know what you get. Let's say you've got the 'sane' PC and the
'insane' PC (nice, nonjudgmental terms *g*). What do they say?

TIA,

-Hugo

I thought I'd pass this along so the next person doesn't make the same
mistake I did.

SuSE 9.0 shipped with one kernel on the CDs (2.4.21-99-default)and a
different kernel on the DVD (2.4.21-144-default).

If that didn't confuse people who didn't realize it enough, there
seems to be a small problem with the -144 kernel.  Somewhere inside
(and I have NO clue where) it still thinks it's -99, and refers to the
-99 modules path

Mindi and Mondo both take the kernels word for where the modules are,
reasonably enough - which will cause them both to fail for no rational
reason, since the SuSE kernel situation is irrational.

If, as I did, you install most of the system from DVD, but a few misc.
modules and utilities from CD, you probably have a nice, stable,
consistant, system.  NOT.

Mindi and Mondo worked on one system, and failed on another system in
the same room - the systems are configured identically. I completely
lost it, and it wasn't a problem with Mindi and Mondo.

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On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 01:43:28PM -0600 or thereabouts, Caroline Hardin wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 05:24:18PM -0600 or thereabouts, Hardin, Caroline 
> >wrote:
> >> Installed the newest stable version of Mindi (1.67) on a RH9 system...My
> >> problem is that when I try to run Mindi it gets as far as the 'Formatting
> >> disk"... and they says "Fatal Error. Cannot Format boot disk - is your
> >> Linux distro broken?". Any suggestions would be greatly appriciated!!
> >
> > From what I can see of your log, you ran mindi and also ran mondoarchive.
> >mondoarchive appears to have successfully backed up your system including a
> >bootable ISO.  Is that the case?
> >
> >mindi was not able to make a 1772Mb boot floppy but was able to make a
                                ^^^^^^ 1.72M or 1722k
> >2880Mb one which is used to create the bootable ISO.  Did you ask mindi to
   ^^^^^^ 2.88M or 2880k
> >make floppy disks?  What happens if you ask mindi _not_ to make floppies 
> >but
> >just to make a bootable CD image?
> >
> >Conor
> 
> If I just make a bootable CD image it gives me "NB. Mindi's bootable CD 
> always sues isolinux. For a bootable cd w/ Lilo, use Mondo" but creates the 
         ^^^^ I presume you mean "uses" :-)
> images. I used cdrecord to burn them onto a CD. Can I use this CD to 
> restore from? or can I only use the CD that is made after Mondo runs?

You can use the CD created by Mindi only to boot from. It's a standard rescue CD.
You can use the first CD created by Mondo as a boot CD as well, but it also contains
your backups.

-- Josh