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    At the 30 December meeting with Netanyahu and his team, President Trump publicly committed to attacking Iran. At the 30 December meeting with Netanyahu and his team, President Trump publicly committed to attacking Iran: If they continue with their ballistic missile program, ‘Yes’. And for their nuclear: ‘Immediate’. “We’ll knock the hell out of them“,...
  • The book was Max Weinreich’s History Of The Yiddish Language. Originally published in two volumes in Yiddish. An English translation was published in 1980 though I think it was only of volume one. My university library had a copy. If I remember rightly, Weinreich’s point was that knowledge of Yiddish spread to non-Jews, in this case employees of Jews.

  • @Colin Wright
    @mulga mumblebrain


    'MADNESS!! There is NO plug. The Zionazis control the West, the Anglosphere in particular and the USA most of all, COMPLETELY. There is ‘No Exit’. Full stop. Tamam Shud.'
     
    Something like the same situation obtained in the Ukraine just before Bohdan Khmelnytski's revolt, and perhaps in Germany under the Weimar Republic.

    Pride goeth before a fall. Jews seem to have a dysfunctional response to gaining power and influence. One doesn't observe Lebanese abroad or Overseas Chinese behaving like this. Go to Hawaii: you'll notice the Japanese community has an awful lot of clout -- but they don't rub it in.

    We'll see.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    In a book on Yiddish I read years ago, there is a passing reference to Ukrainians including Cossacks turning on Jews they worked for and killing them, at the time of the Khmelnytski revolt. Sometimes the employees taunted their employers/victims in Yiddish before killing them.

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    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    In a book on Yiddish I read years ago, there is a passing reference to Ukrainians including Cossacks turning on Jews they worked for and killing them, at the time of the Khmelnytski revolt. Sometimes the employees taunted their employers/victims in Yiddish before killing them.
     
    It's worth noting that the same pattern seems to have repeated itself in compressed form in the Baltics and Eastern Poland in 1939-41.

    Lithuania at least had no history of pogroms. I doubt if it was all tolerance and integration -- but Jews and Lithuanians apparently managed to avoid killing each other. Then came the Soviet takeover -- and the local Jews swiftly appointed themselves top dogs. As one observer wrote, there was a definite air of 'we're in charge now!'

    ...and accompanied by mass persecutions, arrests, deportations, etc. Note that just as in the Seventeenth Century Ukraine, the Jews had assumed a place between the indigenous gentile inhabitants and the alien rulers.

    Then come June 22, 1941, it was payback time.

  • My name appears at the top of a list in a document the Israeli government released earlier this month in order to draw false associations between the Bondi Beach shooting and online criticism of Israel and its atrocities. The PowerPoint document, released by Israel’s Ministry for Diaspora Affairs and Combating Antisemitism, is titled “Delegitimization and...
  • @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    My thoughts might change with time, some other views I have had changed, but the Zionist eagerness to paint “anti-Semitic” target signs on those who challenge them make me disinclined to apply the target sign to myself, and I feel others should not do so either.
     
    To a point, I agree -- as I more or less said. However, (a) I'm damned if I'll let myself get seduced into lying, and (b) isn't the word rapidly losing all pejorative value? It's getting to be a bit like me accusing you of 'not being a Christian.'

    So what if one is fucking antisemitic? There is much to be antisemitic about.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    (a) If you feel that way, express it then. Though I think it helps them, unfortunately. But if you are prepared to take the heat that may go with it, then go for it. It may not matter in practical terms whether you accept the label or not – to quote one example, Jeremy Corbyn denied being anti-Semitic and I believe him. It did not stop the vicious attacks on him. Then again he was a prominent politician. People like me or you might have more space to operate.
    (b) It has less pejorative value than it did in the 1970s, partly due to the passage of time, but it still has some. Otherwise they would not use it to target people.

  • @Colin Wright

    '...I think we should disappoint Zionists in the same way, by not yielding to the provocations aimed at turning us anti-Semitic..
     
    Here I suspect we're going to part ways.

    Starting about five years ago, I began noticing it wasn't just Israel. Whenever there was something corrosive, or ultimately harmful, it was disproportionately Jews pushing it. Whether it was Black Bullshit Matters, or the celebration (as opposed to the tolerance) of sexual deviation and perversion, or gender change for minors, or women's lib pushed past the point of sanity, or come one, come all immigration, or a legal system so over-elaborated as to be dysfunctional, Jews were always there. Not always every individual behind it, but usually between three out of five and three out of four. That would be the usual count if you looked up the names mentioned as advocating whatever it was in any article on the subject.

    And this for a population comprising only 2% of America! So I have become darkly suspicious whenever I see a Jewish name mentioned. I just doubt it will work out well if we trust him. A classic would be Ben Shapiro. I never paid much attention to him, but he was always celebrated as 'owning the libs.' Sounded alright (from my point of view, anyway) -- but now look at him. He's sure as hell come out of the closet.

    I don't like the role Jews are playing at all, and while I don't necessarily see crying out 'I am an antisemite!' as useful in all circumstances, I'm damned if I'm going to deny that I am.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    My thoughts might change with time, some other views I have had changed, but the Zionist eagerness to paint “anti-Semitic” target signs on those who challenge them make me disinclined to apply the target sign to myself, and I feel others should not do so either.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    My thoughts might change with time, some other views I have had changed, but the Zionist eagerness to paint “anti-Semitic” target signs on those who challenge them make me disinclined to apply the target sign to myself, and I feel others should not do so either.
     
    To a point, I agree -- as I more or less said. However, (a) I'm damned if I'll let myself get seduced into lying, and (b) isn't the word rapidly losing all pejorative value? It's getting to be a bit like me accusing you of 'not being a Christian.'

    So what if one is fucking antisemitic? There is much to be antisemitic about.

    Replies: @Wielgus

  • @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    'I have never let the possibility of being considered anti-Semitic deter me from supporting Palestine.'
     
    But Judaism has largely degenerated into support for Israel. One could agree that orthodox Jews are perhaps strange but not necessarily objectionable -- but what about those who don't bother with the strange clothing but still consider themselves Jews?

    Should you really regard them as just fine? Doesn't this become like saying that of course German policy in Poland is deplorable -- but God forbid I should be mean to you just because you're a Nazi?

    Israel is a Jewish project. If Jews want to be accepted in society, it's up to them to disavow Israel, not incumbent upon us to be polite to them.

    I guess my position is that matters have reached the point where I feel one should be antisemitic. If that's deplorable, let Jews alter their behavior. We can have peace with Germany; just as soon as they withdraw from Poland.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    What I would concede is that we should not let being labelled as anti-Semitic deter us from being anti-Zionist. However, we should not embrace the label.
    In terms of historical precedents, I have been interested by older history textbooks, usually British, that maintained there was something intrinsic to Germans that made them militaristic, and hence Hitler. Yet these now read oddly. I think it was possible to fight the Third Reich without being hostile to Germans as such. If you hated Germans, of course it simplified carrying out the Hamburg firestorm or Dresden. But the latter did not actually defeat the Third Reich and the effect of the former is at least debatable.
    It is said that William III (died 1702) made the following remark about a hostile, pro-Jacobite clergyman or pamphleteer: “X has set his heart on becoming a martyr. And I have set mine on disappointing him.” I think we should disappoint Zionists in the same way, by not yielding to the provocations aimed at turning us anti-Semitic.

  • I have never let the possibility of being considered anti-Semitic deter me from supporting Palestine. The fact that mainstream media outlets run for cover is because that is their MO. I worked in the media myself – I know what goes on there.
    It certainly hasn’t barred my friend from action – I have just seen her on Instagram demonstrating outside the US embassy in her country, over Venezuela. She is the sort of sea-green incorruptible the world should turn out in greater quantity but doesn’t.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    'I have never let the possibility of being considered anti-Semitic deter me from supporting Palestine.'
     
    But Judaism has largely degenerated into support for Israel. One could agree that orthodox Jews are perhaps strange but not necessarily objectionable -- but what about those who don't bother with the strange clothing but still consider themselves Jews?

    Should you really regard them as just fine? Doesn't this become like saying that of course German policy in Poland is deplorable -- but God forbid I should be mean to you just because you're a Nazi?

    Israel is a Jewish project. If Jews want to be accepted in society, it's up to them to disavow Israel, not incumbent upon us to be polite to them.

    I guess my position is that matters have reached the point where I feel one should be antisemitic. If that's deplorable, let Jews alter their behavior. We can have peace with Germany; just as soon as they withdraw from Poland.

    Replies: @Wielgus

  • @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    A friend of mine in another country was labelled a dangerous anti-Semite by the Israeli embassy in her country. I can see their problem – she is charismatic, a good organiser and is one of those relatively few people who can draw large numbers of other people into political action. She was active in pro-Palestinian causes long before this but her work has really hit its stride now.
     
    As a practical matter, I sometimes wonder how one can long remain an opponent of Israel without becoming antisemitic. After all, half the world's Jews are in Israel. We're seeing a pretty large sample of Jewish behavior. How can one look at that and not become biased against Jews? Isn't the bias perfectly reasonable? In Israel, we are talking about an organism that enjoys the approval and support of a majority of the world's Jews, to one degree or another. Rare is the Jew who agrees Israel should be dismantled.

    They stand for Israel. Therefore, they stand for what it is. Antisemitism is the unavoidable consequence of that. If Jews don't like antisemitism, the solution is obvious.

    Pull the plug on Israel. Then see where we are.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    This is no doubt a controversial point, especially on this site, but I think the Zionists want us to be anti-Semitic, and I don’t think we should oblige them.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    '...This is no doubt a controversial point, especially on this site, but I think the Zionists want us to be anti-Semitic, and I don’t think we should oblige them.'
     
    On the other hand, what I have seen far too much of is allowing fears of being labelled antisemitic emasculate criticism of Israel, bar effective action, etc.

    Just in the last few months, a Jew, Larry Ellison, has gained control of Tik Tok and CBS and is openly moving to prevent criticism of Israel on those platforms. Another Jew, Larry Fink, gained a large share of the corporation that controls Fox News and got Tucker Carlson fired. We've seen the BBC, the Guardian, and the New York Times all effectively muzzled by shouts of 'antisemitism.' Right now, Hitler's little helpers are fighting to gain control of Turning Point USA and expending vast sums to shore up their support among Evangelicals.

    They just fucking invaded Venezuela and are explicitly threatening to invade Columbia. Both states, not at all coincidentally, severed ties with Israel in 2024. They are to serve as examples.

    At some point, when the cry 'that's antisemitic!' is raised, one has to say, 'so what? There's much to be antisemitic about.'

    When we really can say 'Jews aren't so bad; we shouldn't hate them' then we'll stop hating them. Personally, I like them, generally -- as individuals. But at the moment, collectively they clearly are so bad.

    If the Jews don't like it, let them modify their behavior. Then I'll revisit my attitude. This is like talking about how one mustn't hate all Germans -- in 1941.

    , @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    'This is no doubt a controversial point, especially on this site, but I think the Zionists want us to be anti-Semitic, and I don’t think we should oblige them.'
     
    It would be more accurate to say they want a few of us to be antisemitic.

    If we were all antisemitic, they would drop the Zionism -- pronto. Of course, you are right in that trumpeting one's antisemitism at this point is playing into their hands. Damned if I'm going to deny it, but...

    But also, at some point, the balance can shift. When that happens -- when everyone starts to feel antisemitic, then it's time to play that card. Say 'so leave Palestine. Then we'll think about renting you an apartment.'

    The sad bit is -- as past events have demonstrated -- it's not all that easy to control the shift.
  • Our introductory history textbooks sometimes highlight some of the strange and amusing stories of the past. I think that most students must have cracked a smile when they read their chapter on eighteenth century European history and came across "The War of Jenkins' Ear." As its comprehensive Wikipedia article explains, that major conflict fought between...
  • @ganainm
    @Hartmann

    "According to Weckert, Grynszpan was given a new identity and moved back to Paris after the war. "

    The Nazis had an actual Jewish murderer in their hands for five years and they never got around to killing him ??? Bizarre. They shot plenty of Germans for less. Once again shows how Adolf loved and protected the jews if they were zionist or othodox or rich.

    Hennecke Kardel. Strones and Doellersheim.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    More likely he was being preserved for a projected trial. Rather like Georg Elser.

  • My name appears at the top of a list in a document the Israeli government released earlier this month in order to draw false associations between the Bondi Beach shooting and online criticism of Israel and its atrocities. The PowerPoint document, released by Israel’s Ministry for Diaspora Affairs and Combating Antisemitism, is titled “Delegitimization and...
  • A friend of mine in another country was labelled a dangerous anti-Semite by the Israeli embassy in her country. I can see their problem – she is charismatic, a good organiser and is one of those relatively few people who can draw large numbers of other people into political action. She was active in pro-Palestinian causes long before this but her work has really hit its stride now.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    A friend of mine in another country was labelled a dangerous anti-Semite by the Israeli embassy in her country. I can see their problem – she is charismatic, a good organiser and is one of those relatively few people who can draw large numbers of other people into political action. She was active in pro-Palestinian causes long before this but her work has really hit its stride now.
     
    As a practical matter, I sometimes wonder how one can long remain an opponent of Israel without becoming antisemitic. After all, half the world's Jews are in Israel. We're seeing a pretty large sample of Jewish behavior. How can one look at that and not become biased against Jews? Isn't the bias perfectly reasonable? In Israel, we are talking about an organism that enjoys the approval and support of a majority of the world's Jews, to one degree or another. Rare is the Jew who agrees Israel should be dismantled.

    They stand for Israel. Therefore, they stand for what it is. Antisemitism is the unavoidable consequence of that. If Jews don't like antisemitism, the solution is obvious.

    Pull the plug on Israel. Then see where we are.

    Replies: @Wielgus

  • Our introductory history textbooks sometimes highlight some of the strange and amusing stories of the past. I think that most students must have cracked a smile when they read their chapter on eighteenth century European history and came across "The War of Jenkins' Ear." As its comprehensive Wikipedia article explains, that major conflict fought between...
  • @Colin Wright
    @Avery


    '...Nazi Germans could not help themselves: Hitler’s dream* was Lebensraum in the East, all the way to the Urals. There was just no possibility of Übermenschen co-existing with Untermenschen. It was one or the other.'
     
    Dunno about that. Rosenberg, for example, advocated the creation of autonomous Baltic and Slavic states. The real problem there is that he had already become an 'also-ran' in the jockeying for power, respect, ad Hitler's favor that dominated politics in the Third Reich.

    ...and the Abwehr had its 'Nachtigall' and 'Roland' battalions of Ukrainian separatists. Finally, of course, the German army raised far more Hilfswilligen battalions than they were supposed to: if one looks through the OOB for Fall Blau just about every German infantry division seems to have had an auxiliary battalion of former P.O.W.'s 'n stuff.

    Ultimately, I'd say it was a function of Hitler not wanting things to go that way. But they could have, easily enough. After all, look at the SS Divisions Himmler raised from Balts and Ukrainians in 1943-44. They all fought well enough. Look at the Lokot Republic.

    Another course wasn't an impossibility. Hitler could have gotten realistic about things after the failure of Barbarossa and the rest of the German establishment would have gone along; a 'hearts and minds' approach starting in early 1942 would have worked, in my opinion.

    Replies: @Anon59, @Wielgus

    Rosenberg was a fluent Russian speaker and had actually been born in the Tsarist Empire. But he lost out in the power struggles. The somewhat prominent writer Edwin Erich Dwinger, a junior officer in the Waffen-SS, advocated more humane treatment of Slavs (his description of badly wounded Soviet POWs in late 1941 in one of his articles suggests he admired their stoicism and wished they were being treated better – he describes them leaving trails of blood in the snow when crawling to collect food handouts). But Dwinger had some Russian ancestry and perhaps his opinions were dismissed for that reason.

  • @Colin Wright
    @Anon59


    Hitler only wanted to move Russian Slavs back beyond the Urals, but he would have moderated that once the war was over. There was no Slavic genocide plan.
     
    Even if we assume you're right, summarily dispatching a hundred million people to Siberia would have implicitly condemned tens of millions of them to death. Is it your contention that the Germans would have taken great care to ensure reasonable conditions in transport and the existence of the necessary infrastructure to support such a population upon arrival?

    I think it would have looked more like the Armenian genocide. Conventional dogma requires that Nazism was vile in all ways, at all times. Well, that's not true. But neither is it true that we can assume a 'nice' Third Reich, taking care not to hurt anyone or inflict unnecessary suffering. Everything says the opposite.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    The Third Reich also tended to be more unrestrained in eastern Europe. In the west, occupied peoples initially found the Germans to be more disciplined and less barbaric than expected, but in the east, the gloves were off right from the start.

    • Replies: @Avery
    @Wielgus


    the gloves were off right from the start.
     
    It was no improvisation by the local commanders.
    It was Nazi leadership policy for the Eastern front.
    Written orders from the top.

    Replies: @Hartmann

    , @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    'The Third Reich also tended to be more unrestrained in eastern Europe. In the west, occupied peoples initially found the Germans to be more disciplined and less barbaric than expected, but in the east, the gloves were off right from the start.'
     
    In broad strokes, that's true, but there was also a great deal of variation. For example, Bohemia and Moravia vs. Poland; the willingness to encourage autonomy in Croatia and Slovakia vs. prompt repression of the same in the Ukraine.

    What about Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia?

    I suspect we don't really know where Nazism would have gone; the dogma was so unformed and shifting in response to the pressures of total war. Relying on either Hitler's lurid fantasies or the wishful thinking of the Nazi-love brigade seems to me equally unreliable. On the one hand we have the unhesitating brutality of the occupation of Poland and the equally unhesitating willingness to allow Soviet P.O.W.'s to die literally by the million; on the other hand, just as a practical matter how long could they have kept it up for? Would they have ever been able to find Germans to repopulate the Ukraine et al? My impression is that they weren't even able to make much progress Germanizing Western Poland. If there are visibly no Germans willing to settle in the East, why expel the current inhabitants?

    Germans didn't even like killing people by the million. Look at how they turned the job over to Trawniki men. I have a hard time seeing them keeping up the Genghis Khan routine for very long. My feeling is that it would all have inexorably slid into some kind of modus vivendi; on precisely what terms is unknowable.
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  • A clip from the British 1990s TV series Absolutely Fabulous. This is the “Morocco” episode in which Edwina Monsoon, her parasitical friend Patsy and her well-educated but naive daughter Saffy decide to go to Morocco. They encounter a certain amount of sexual harassment from male locals and Edwina and Patsy spend much time unconscious after scoring hashish. Patsy, who hates Saffy, sells her to the locals, saying Saffy always wanted to get to know other cultures and this is her chance. Edwina remarks that spending the rest of her life in “painful servitude” was probably not quite what Saffy intended. Because it’s black comedy rather than tragedy, they encounter Saffy dressed as a local woman and carrying a water container on her head and they all get back to England, no doubt somewhat relieved…

  • Our introductory history textbooks sometimes highlight some of the strange and amusing stories of the past. I think that most students must have cracked a smile when they read their chapter on eighteenth century European history and came across "The War of Jenkins' Ear." As its comprehensive Wikipedia article explains, that major conflict fought between...
  • @Colin Wright
    @Greg Garros


    I agree. I’m far from a WW2 expert, but the Nazis just had too many blunders given the international forces they were up against. They had to thread too many needles. The Kristallnacht ruined them.
     
    This is one thought that keeps recurring to me. Yes, Hitler and the Nazis made mistakes; we all do if we undertake something for the first time. If you've never done any wiring, redo your house -- and without an instruction manual. Betcha you make some mistakes...

    Compared to the Germans, the strategic course pursued by the French, the British, the Russians, and the Americans was almost literally an endless succession of blunders, punctuated by an occasional right move.

    It's just that the Allies could afford to screw up. Britain could bollox up Norway, pointlessly attack the French, invest in the folly of 'strategic' bombing, commit the Greek fiasco, attempt to stage her war effort from Egypt, fail to grasp the essence of modern armored warfare, refuse to use Bomber Command to win the Battle of the Atlantic, get mired in Italy, avoid victory in the summer of 1944, and still be on the winning team. Russia could basically throw away the army it had at the start, throw away most of those who replaced it, and still win.

    This sort of relentless blundering wasn't a luxury the Germans could afford. Even the errors they did commit killed them. As you say, they had to thread too many needles.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @Wokechoke

    Too many threads and needles. They were remarkably poor at making friends. For example they spent WW2 grinding Poles’ faces in the dirt even though many were anti-Bolshevik and anti-Semitic. In 1940 a Polish fascist was as likely to be executed by them as a Polish leftist.

  • @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    '...The Winged Hussar mystique puzzles me, as Hussars are more traditionally associated with the Hungarians...'
     
    Maybe the Battle of Vienna, or just some computer game?

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Possibly Vienna. Jan Sobieski brought 4,000 Polish troops who were among the forces sent to break the siege in 1683, and many were cavalry.

  • @notanonymoushere
    @Wielgus

    The image makes Colin's faggotty fantasy clear.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    The film is pretty accurate historically. It illustrates also how Cossacks ended up in the Russian Empire, after rebelling against the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

  • @Colin Wright
    @Annacath


    'Having swallowed the established lies about the soo noble and heavily oppressed Polish nation, people in the West remain blisssfully ignorant.'
     
    Well, be fair. I don't know about them being especially noble, but Poles did spend most of the last two and half centuries being oppressed -- and they are indubitably courageous. Look at the three times they attempted to throw off the Russian yoke. Their admittedly brave stand in 1939: the Germans commented that -- however incompetently -- the Poles fought much harder than the French. Their -- unlike certain national formations -- impressive performance when armed and trained by the British. The Warsaw Uprising.

    One can see why their immediate neighbors get fed up and try to smash them into submission, but if I had to be reincarnated in my next life as a Pole, I wouldn't feel altogether humiliated.

    Worse things to do than to die as a Polish Hussar.

    Replies: @notanonymoushere, @Wielgus

    Polish Winged Hussars as antagonists for Cossacks, from a film of Sienkiewicz’s Fire And Sword. The Winged Hussar mystique puzzles me, as Hussars are more traditionally associated with the Hungarians. Lancers or Uhlans were the quintessential Polish cavalry type, with lancers in other armies frequently adopting versions of the Polish konfederatka cap as their headgear.

    • Replies: @notanonymoushere
    @Wielgus

    The image makes Colin's faggotty fantasy clear.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    , @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    '...The Winged Hussar mystique puzzles me, as Hussars are more traditionally associated with the Hungarians...'
     
    Maybe the Battle of Vienna, or just some computer game?

    Replies: @Wielgus

  • @ganainm
    Viktor Klemperer was a protestant jew living in Dresden. He noted in his diary that Goebbels looked jewish. He said that the harssament of the jews intensified after the Greenspan shooting. Before then, he said the regime varied between attacking protestants, catholics and jews. After that it was jews only.

    Of course, if you got yourself aryanised - Oppenheimer, the Wittgenstein old ladies, Schroeder and loads more - you were totally immune from all restrictions. It was a money thing.

    Poor old Viktor Klemperer was forbidden to buy booze, tobacco, go by bus, etc. Meanwhile, the aryanised jews in the party hierarchy were partying in Berlin and the Zionists were happy out in their training camps for Israel.



    Greenspan's fate is another proof that the 6million gas chamber stuff is nonsense. He stayed in french prison safely through the war. They never manged to find time to execute him. At the end of the war, he supposedly committed suicide (why?) but there is a doubt over that. Same surname as your fed reserve chairman.

    What a lucky man that the nasty Nazis didn't execute him for the four years he was in their power.

    It's like Ron says: Nazism is Zionism for wimps.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Grynszpan’s fate is unknown. One theory is he was kept alive during the war because the Third Reich wanted to hold a trial at war’s end indicting an international Jewish conspiracy against Germany. Georg Elser may have been kept alive for the same reason. But it became clear such a trial would never happen. Elser was certainly killed, perhaps also Grynszpan.

    • Replies: @ganainm
    @Wielgus

    Danke! It is remarkable that they didn't publicly execute him at any point that we know of. I suggest there was an anti_german and pro-german wing of zionism. The anti-german zionists started Kristallnacht and the pro-german zionists in the Nazi party did their best to stop it.

    Replies: @Hartmann

  • @Colin Wright
    @notanonymoushere


    Irving tends to overestimate himself. Witness his acting as his own attorney in the ill-considered and misbegotten Lipschitz Affair. SFI.
     
    Perhaps Irving is inclined to promote himself; but in his position, if he doesn't, who will? Unlike more conforming historians, he can't sit back and let the plaudits and awards come of themselves. Cambridge isn't going to appoint him Regius Professor of Modern History.

    As to his behavior in the Eighties and Nineties, there is a certain irony. Irving, of all people, apparently really believed that the law guaranteed him a right to free speech, that people couldn't libel him without consequence, etc. In other words, while he seems to have been aware of Jewish power, it never seems to have dawned on him that it could be applied to him as well.

    To judge by his autobiographical fragments, he always seems to have been a bit of an iconoclast. Well, there are perils to being an iconoclast.

    Replies: @notanonymoushere, @Wielgus

    I remember a British TV interview with Irving c.1981 and he mentioned having political ambitions. I don’t think he realised at the time that his non-standard view of WW2 was likely to seriously interfere with such ambitions.

  • @JPS
    @Wielgus

    You mean he jumped bail and fled to Mexico with the help of German diplomats who had immunity?

    Replies: @Wielgus

    It would appear so. The American authorities charged him with illegally entering the USA. The Canadians applied for his extradition. The German consulate arranged for him to leave the USA – clearly Von Werra was not closely guarded.

    • Replies: @JPS
    @Wielgus

    Von Werra wasn't going to do anything (he had handed himself into the police, no doubt thinking he'd be interned), why would they guard him closely? Not everybody is a Popish Plot tier maniac - you know, the sort of people (many in Canada) who were absolutely raging at anybody questioning the COVID restrictions.

  • @JPS
    @Colin Wright

    Well, it wasn't the custom to stop people from watching films during peacetime, right?

    That doesn't mean you couldn't be arrested for publishing the German White Book. Roosevelt arrested a lot of people on spurious grounds.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_von_Werra

    A German fighter pilot and POW who escaped to the USA from Canada while it was neutral. With German consular help he got out of the USA as quickly as possible in case he was extradited back to Canada. Until December 1941, Third Reich films could be shown in the USA, escaping German POWs could regard the USA as a destination on the road to getting back to Germany, and I have doubts whether German White Books could be banned.

    • Replies: @JPS
    @Wielgus

    You mean he jumped bail and fled to Mexico with the help of German diplomats who had immunity?

    Replies: @Wielgus

  • @Ron Unz
    @Hartmann


    I believe both the publisher and the translator of the German White Paper were put in prison for distributing Nazi propaganda, even before the US was (officially) at war.
     
    Is that really correct? Under what law was it illegal to distribute "Nazi propaganda" prior to the outbreak of war? I'm genuinely puzzled. Maybe they violated the Foreign Agents Registration Act if they didn't disclose their connection to the German government.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @Hartmann, @Hartmann

    Third Reich films, including a propaganda one about invading Poland in 1939, were still being watched in movie houses in German-American parts of New York City in the summer of 1941.

    • Replies: @JPS
    @Wielgus

    I don't know how it's surprising that German speakers would watch German films. If you were from Germany and they were showing a German film about current events, wouldn't you be interested?

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  • @Ron Unz
    @markessa


    Nikolai Starikov mentions that German doctors gave vom Rath 3 blood transfusions with the wrong blood type before he finally died. Cui bono?
     
    LOL.

    Perhaps people now understand why I so frequently say that the overwhelming majority of "conspiracy theories" are false.

    Some obscure fellow with the extremely Russian name of "Nikolai Starikov" writing in 2013 claims that the German doctors deliberately murdered the German diplomat in 1938, presumably doing so in order to assist the plot against Germany.

    As far as I know nobody had ever made that claim in the previous 75 years, but Starikov suddenly uncovered the factual evidence. Maybe he's a time-traveler who went back to Paris and saw with his own eyes what had happened.

    I'm not going to waste my time reading that stupid book but I'm extraordinarily skeptical. Maybe some of the other conspiracy-nuts on this comment-thread will read it and explain the source of Starikov's remarkable information. Maybe Hitler was a Rothschild and the records of his order instructing those German doctors to kill their patient were found in the Rothschild family archives.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @Colin Wright

    The claim made me do a little research on blood transfusion. In 1938 even the discovery that there are different blood types was rather recent.
    “He had distinguished the main blood groups in 1901, having developed the modern system of classification of blood groups from his identification of the presence of agglutinins in the blood. In 1937, with Alexander S. Wiener, he identified the Rhesus factor, thus enabling physicians to transfuse blood without endangering the patient’s life.” (Wikipedia article on Karl Landsteiner) Landsteiner, who was born Jewish but later converted to Christianity, did his later research into blood types in the USA, and German doctors in 1938 would presumably not have had access to his latest findings. German blood transfusion in WW2 was apparently more primitive and also riskier than the procedures used by American and British doctors.

  • Goebbels was a rather notorious womaniser (his involvement with the German film industry seems to have involved a certain amount of “casting couch” behaviour) and it did not help that Lida Baarova was a Slav. A lot of his behaviour during the war was a gradual climb back into favour after losing ground before the war – because of the Baarova business, among others. The claim that it significantly contributed to the outbreak of WW2 is, I think, far too flattering to both Goebbels and Baarova.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    @Wielgus


    Goebbels was a rather notorious womaniser (his involvement with the German film industry seems to have involved a certain amount of “casting couch” behaviour) and it did not help that Lida Baarova was a Slav. A lot of his behaviour during the war was a gradual climb back into favour after losing ground before the war – because of the Baarova business, among others. The claim that it significantly contributed to the outbreak of WW2 is, I think, far too flattering to both Goebbels and Baarova.
     
    Sure, I'd second all but the last sentence, which is exactly what Irving argues in his persuasive biography.

    But Irving, Hitler, and all the other Nazi leaders claimed that Goebbels was the instigator of the anti-Jewish riots in November 1938. And I presented the very strong evidence that those riots played a major, probably even crucial role in the outbreak of WWII. So I think that the combination of those two arguments renders my conclusion very plausible. It's a simple chain of direct casual reasoning.

    Indeed, I was quite pleased to discover that fact-checking by the extremely powerful Deep Research AI fully confirmed everything in my article. Those interested should take a look at the very detailed 16,000 words analysis:

    https://www.unz.com/factcheck/factcheck-the-war-of-goebbels-czech-mistress/

    And here's one of the key paragraphs by the AI:

    Verification: Each link in the chain is verified as factual in our findings:

    Affair ➜ Goebbels’ personal crisis: True (Goebbels nearly lost his position).

    Personal crisis ➜ Kristallnacht instigation: True (evidence indicates Goebbels sought to redeem himself through radical action).

    Kristallnacht ➜ international outrage & British policy shift: Largely true. Kristallnacht was a PR disaster for Hitler. While the immediate cause for Britain’s war guarantee was the March 1939 occupation of Czech lands, the cumulative effect of Nazi barbarism (including Kristallnacht) had by then destroyed any sympathy or trust. Chamberlain faced public and parliamentary pressure to stand up to Hitler partly because events like Kristallnacht had revealed the Nazis’ brutal nature en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org. Roosevelt specifically cited Kristallnacht in speeches to galvanize American public opinion against Hitler. So Kristallnacht did influence Western attitudes, stiffening resolve against further Nazi aggression.

    British hard line ➜ War outbreak: True as discussed (the British guarantee gave Poland confidence to refuse negotiation, Hitler attacked Poland expecting it might be a local war but Britain/France declared war – thus world war began)
     

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @Kingsmeg
    @Wielgus


    Goebbels was a rather notorious womaniser (his involvement with the German film industry seems to have involved a certain amount of “casting couch” behaviour) and it did not help that Lida Baarova was a Slav. A lot of his behaviour during the war was a gradual climb back into favour after losing ground before the war – because of the Baarova business, among others. The claim that it significantly contributed to the outbreak of WW2 is, I think, far too flattering to both Goebbels and Baarova.
     
    It's the equivalent to saying the current war in Ukraine is ultimately due to a lovers' tiff between Zelensky and Macron. Drug-fueled lovers' triangle with Brigitte sucker-punching Zelensky to reclaim her/his man?

    It is due to simple enough failure in evaluating history. We know that official histories are false ('lies agreed upon by the masses'), and this leads to thinking that therefore a 'true' history is possible, is out there somewhere waiting to be discovered. And we are watching the process in real time in Ukraine, we can see the daily construction of the propaganda narratives that will become official 'history' (depending on how decisively Russia wins). But even with the events happening in real time as we watch with the benefit of instant first-person telling via the Internet, we cannot agree on what the 'real' causes are today. Because they cannot be boiled down to simple declarative statements.

    The process of telling history inevitably involves reducing infinitely complex events involving many individuals each with their own motives and circumstances, and simplifying all of that down to a single narrative that will be accepted by future generations. So did Goebbels have an affair with a Czech actress and did he happen to be lovesick and depressed when Kristallnacht was launched? Sure, I have no trouble accepting that. Was that the ultimate cause of Kristallnacht, snowballing into WW2-->3? You might as well argue that Hitler had a bout of indigestion one night and his dog bit him, and that was the 'real' cause.

    Replies: @notanonymoushere, @Kingsmeg

  • Here’s a little thought-experiment: Let’s say that the terrorism committed by Israel counts the same as any other form of terrorism and should be treated the same. Let’s apply existing US law to this situation, and see what we might conclude. In September 2025, President Trump designated Antifa as a “domestic terrorist organization.” This Executive...
  • @Colin Wright
    @Organic


    'Meamjojo is of course correct, and no doubt comfortable in his arrogance. Threatening Jewish money would be like threatening to cut off oxygen, the Satan Cult would go into a complete psychopathic tantrum and strike out anyway they could.'
     
    That hasn't always been the historic Jewish reaction. For example, the dawning realization of the association between Jewry and Communism in circa 1950 America led to Jews 'making nice': rejecting Communism, and banging the 'Americans all' drum.' Suddenly it was Americans of the Hebraic faith, and can we join the Boy Scouts too?

    In the past, it seems to have been the same. Most of the Jews of Castile and Aragon seem to have opted for conversion at the end of the Fourteenth Century in the face of a more strident Christianity. Do Jews strike out, etc -- or do they react by attempting to appease?

    Right now, we let Jews bully us, essentially. What would happen if we didn't?

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Roy Cohn’s strident anti-Communism after WW2 was no doubt a product of this. His politics in general are something of an enigma for me – he was a life-long Democrat but seems to have preferred Republicans. He was a classic example of a “Democrat In Name Only”. Then again, the much more liberal Gore Vidal once campaigned on behalf of a Republican he seems to have liked personally, despite Vidal being a Democrat, a Kennedy associate etc. Not like politics on this side of the Atlantic at all.
    Cohn’s mentor, a certain George Sokolsky, had commented back in the 1930s that “a Communist parade looks Jewish”.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
    @Wielgus

    As there is no REAL difference between the 'Democrazy' and 'Reptilian' wings of the Business Party in the USA, friendships between the servants ought to be easy.

  • @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    Just after the Americans arrived in Baghdad in 2003, I saw TV footage of a hole in a mosque’s minaret. A couple of locals said, at least according to the English subtitles, that an American tank had fired a round into the minaret and the tank commander told them he was Jewish.
     
    I wonder if he actually was Jewish? It's possible, but definitely not probable.

    I knew a Jew -- at least, I think he was Jewish -- who got a Silver Star for knocking out a 'Tiger tank' in 1944. It could happen, but statistically...

    And after the Second World War? Fageddah bout it.

    Replies: @Truth Vigilante, @Wielgus

    I am sceptical, though it fits with the arrogant chutzpah they often show – “We can do whatever we want!”
    About the same time at least one US armoured vehicle fired on a hotel, killing and wounding media workers – I believe at least one was from Al Jazeera and it may have been a deliberate punishment of “non-embedded” media.

  • The execution of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg in 1953 marked one of the most charged moments of the early Cold War. The couple had been arrested in 1950 and convicted in 1951 for conspiring to pass United States atomic secrets to the Soviet Union. Their deaths in the electric chair were the first peacetime executions...
  • @Wielgus
    @Colin Wright

    On the Web, I notice at least as many such errors in toe the line as accurate spellings. The slow death of the English language?

    Replies: @Sew Crates Hymerschniffen, @Colin Wright, @Wielgus

    I’ve been re-reading some of George Orwell’s essays and journalism (in my view often more perceptive than his more famous novels) and he mentions toe the line being wrongly spelled back in the 194os.

  • Here’s a little thought-experiment: Let’s say that the terrorism committed by Israel counts the same as any other form of terrorism and should be treated the same. Let’s apply existing US law to this situation, and see what we might conclude. In September 2025, President Trump designated Antifa as a “domestic terrorist organization.” This Executive...
  • @Jameson
    @Wielgus

    America should have stood up for Christians in Iraq, who were there before Islam was even invented. Destroying mosques should have been a normal operating procedure.

    Replies: @Anonymous 1, @Colin Wright, @Colin Wright, @Wielgus

    ‘America should have stood up for Christians in Iraq, who were there before Islam was even invented. Destroying mosques should have been a normal operating procedure.’

    ‘Standing up’ for the Christians in Iraq would have involved leaving Saddam Hussein in power, not deposing him and inviting a Shi’a resurgance, Sunni fanaticism, and so on.

    • Agree: Wielgus
    • Replies: @Wielgus
    @Colin Wright

    Tariq Aziz, Saddam's Foreign Minister, was Christian, at least by origin. He was imprisoned after Saddam's overthrow and died in jail.

    , @Jameson
    @Colin Wright

    Clueless people in charge didn't have a clue how evil Islam is, even after 9/11. The problem exists to this day. Giving Muslims so-called "freedom" only meant they had more freedom to kill Christians.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  • @Jameson
    @Wielgus

    America should have stood up for Christians in Iraq, who were there before Islam was even invented. Destroying mosques should have been a normal operating procedure.

    Replies: @Anonymous 1, @Colin Wright, @Colin Wright, @Wielgus

    America (and Britain) didn’t go into Iraq to “stand up” for any of the locals. Not even the Kurds, because the Turkish authorities complained about the pro-Kurdish noises being made to justify the invasion. And I suspect the tank commander, if he was indeed Jewish, would have been as happy to put a shell into a Christian church as into a minaret. It’s not like the Israelis spared Christian institutions in Gaza, is it?

  • @Colin Wright
    @Jameson


    'America should have stood up for Christians in Iraq, who were there before Islam was even invented. Destroying mosques should have been a normal operating procedure.'
     
    'Standing up' for the Christians in Iraq would have involved leaving Saddam Hussein in power, not deposing him and inviting a Shi'a resurgance, Sunni fanaticism, and so on.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @Jameson

    Tariq Aziz, Saddam’s Foreign Minister, was Christian, at least by origin. He was imprisoned after Saddam’s overthrow and died in jail.

    • Agree: mark green
  • @Colin Wright
    @geokat62

    Incidentally, the Wikipedia page on Carr contains the following interesting tidbit:


    '...During Carr's Iraq War service, he helped lead an anti-terrorism team in missions throughout Iraq, prosecute terrorists who had attacked U.S soldiers in the Central Criminal Court of Iraq, and train Iraqi judges and lawyers on constitutional law and criminal defense. He also led Jewish services in the former presidential palace of Saddam Hussein in Baghdad, including by lighting a Hanukkah menorah in the first Hanukkah after the liberation of Baghdad in 2003...'
     
    That is decidedly letting the cat out of the bag.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Just after the Americans arrived in Baghdad in 2003, I saw TV footage of a hole in a mosque’s minaret. A couple of locals said, at least according to the English subtitles, that an American tank had fired a round into the minaret and the tank commander told them he was Jewish.

    • Replies: @Jameson
    @Wielgus

    America should have stood up for Christians in Iraq, who were there before Islam was even invented. Destroying mosques should have been a normal operating procedure.

    Replies: @Anonymous 1, @Colin Wright, @Colin Wright, @Wielgus

    , @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    Just after the Americans arrived in Baghdad in 2003, I saw TV footage of a hole in a mosque’s minaret. A couple of locals said, at least according to the English subtitles, that an American tank had fired a round into the minaret and the tank commander told them he was Jewish.
     
    I wonder if he actually was Jewish? It's possible, but definitely not probable.

    I knew a Jew -- at least, I think he was Jewish -- who got a Silver Star for knocking out a 'Tiger tank' in 1944. It could happen, but statistically...

    And after the Second World War? Fageddah bout it.

    Replies: @Truth Vigilante, @Wielgus

  • A New Open Thread.
  • @24th Alabama
    @Wielgus

    Unfortunately, Ireland did allow some Jews to enter. In the case of Limerick,
    affectionately known as "Pigtown," the scent of frying bacon drove them nuts.
    When they learned that swine orgasms last 3o minutes, unbearable envy
    caused them to leave.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Leopold Bloom, one of the novel’s principal characters, has a Hungarian Jewish father who converted to Protestantism, and an Irish Catholic mother.
    Jonathan Miller, a Jewish atheist media personality in Britain who died in 2019, claimed in an interview that an ancestor, possibly his grandfather, wanted to emigrate to the USA in the late 19th century but got off the boat at Cork, Ireland, thinking it was New York.

    • Replies: @24th Alabama
    @Wielgus

    "Cork and New York." Perfectly understandable.
    Almost never are we so lucky!

  • The execution of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg in 1953 marked one of the most charged moments of the early Cold War. The couple had been arrested in 1950 and convicted in 1951 for conspiring to pass United States atomic secrets to the Soviet Union. Their deaths in the electric chair were the first peacetime executions...
  • @TitusAlone
    @CKing

    I agree with you that McCarthy's death was suspicious. He died when he was no longer of any use - like the Rosenbergs.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Basically, he drank himself to death. People like Hoover (with whom he had played golf in the past) and Nixon kept their distance from him after 1954 – they were good politicians and decided he was toxic.
    To a considerable extent he was a victim of his own deputy, Roy Cohn. Whether or not Cohn was deliberately trying to undermine McCarthy is far from clear. But intended or not, the effects of what Cohn was doing were much the same. Cohn maintained some sort of career as a lawyer until being disbarred shortly before his death in 1986, but for McCarthy it was all over.

  • @prison expert
    Kissing ass of the powerful is nothing new nor confined to the Jews. The Catholic church seems to have written the playbook everyone else has followed. In the 1950s the ACLU defended neither the Rosenburg's nor communists or anyone else hounded by McCarthy and the HUAC. Except for some individual, heroic, lawyers, no one complained about the Japanese internment either.

    hardly a big news flash that organizations pursue their own agendas of political convenience and shift their stances with the political winds.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Correct. The ACLU ran for cover at this time. Some lawyers who defended Communists were actually jailed during the period, and Communists noted that they found it difficult to obtain legal representation. One praised a particular lawyer who turned him down – not for turning him down but for admitting that he feared that taking on the defence of a Communist would destroy his career. Others were less forthright about their reasons.

  • @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    On the Web, I notice at least as many such errors in toe the line as accurate spellings. The slow death of the English language?
     
    I have the impression something similar happened to Latin in the Dark Ages.

    The traditional teachers of yore certainly had their limitations, but they adhered to a faith, and part of that faith was proper grammar.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Medieval Latin increasingly deviated from the Classical version, for a number of reasons. Especially if their native language was a Romance one the Latin of users tended to be influenced by their actual spoken language. And people were aware of it – at least one glossary exists showing “incorrect” words in use and placing alongside them the “correct” ones. The glossary’s “incorrect” vocabulary is in fact proto-Italian.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appendix_Probi
    It could be that current errors are just another stage in the development of English, though it just looks like slipshod use of language to me. The actual grasp of Latin among clerics varied – a letter by Luther before his break with Rome comments on the ignorance of grammar shown by some of his opponents – ie. their Latin wasn’t very good.

  • @Sew Crates Hymerschniffen
    @Wielgus

    I agree with the sentiment you have, but the "tow the line" rendition of toe the line is far less troublesome to me than many common errors. Not all errors portend the same vector of demise. The wording is logical, for one, and some may be intentionally offering a turn of phrase. Taking offense at this "error" is dangerously close to a pedantic tantrum. I'd save the outrage for the non-thinkers who, instead of applying good logic to an infrequently read metaphor, utter stupid things like, "I could care less."

    In the case at hand we have, like with the case of the often asserted "begging the question" as though it means "suggests the question", merely the simple blind spot of the origin of a parroted phrase. Parroting of phrases, to me, is what the less linguistically intelligent do.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Well, there is as bad and worse out there. Rein in is very often spelled reign in and I have even encountered the semi-literate spelling rain in. A surprisingly large number of people write there when they mean their and vice versa.
    “Pedantic” – well, I used to edit and proofread, and it probably shows…

    • Replies: @notanonymoushere
    @Wielgus

    "Pedantic" people are jus' raciss'! Never give in, never give up.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    Well, there is as bad and worse out there. Rein in is very often spelled reign in and I have even encountered the semi-literate spelling rain in. A surprisingly large number of people write there when they mean their and vice versa.
    “Pedantic” – well, I used to edit and proofread, and it probably shows…
     
    It wasn't until I was about thirty five that I realized 'it's' wasn't the possessive form of 'it.' Odd that I would make it through college without ever being called on it.

    The barbarity I still both see -- and commit myself -- is using 'that' when I really should say 'who.' 'The people that took the train...'

    Commas are where I've really gone off the reservation. I'm reluctant to insert a comma if I don't perceive a pause -- whatever the rule might be.

    ...as the above post suggests, my problem lately is deciding that no paragraph should be more than two sentences in length.
  • @Colin Wright

    '...ADL protected Jews who were towing the bipartisan line...'
     
    'toeing,' for Chrissake. One 'toes' the line, one does not 'tow' it. The latter is nonsensical.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    On the Web, I notice at least as many such errors in toe the line as accurate spellings. The slow death of the English language?

    • Replies: @Sew Crates Hymerschniffen
    @Wielgus

    I agree with the sentiment you have, but the "tow the line" rendition of toe the line is far less troublesome to me than many common errors. Not all errors portend the same vector of demise. The wording is logical, for one, and some may be intentionally offering a turn of phrase. Taking offense at this "error" is dangerously close to a pedantic tantrum. I'd save the outrage for the non-thinkers who, instead of applying good logic to an infrequently read metaphor, utter stupid things like, "I could care less."

    In the case at hand we have, like with the case of the often asserted "begging the question" as though it means "suggests the question", merely the simple blind spot of the origin of a parroted phrase. Parroting of phrases, to me, is what the less linguistically intelligent do.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    , @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    On the Web, I notice at least as many such errors in toe the line as accurate spellings. The slow death of the English language?
     
    I have the impression something similar happened to Latin in the Dark Ages.

    The traditional teachers of yore certainly had their limitations, but they adhered to a faith, and part of that faith was proper grammar.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    , @Wielgus
    @Wielgus

    I've been re-reading some of George Orwell's essays and journalism (in my view often more perceptive than his more famous novels) and he mentions toe the line being wrongly spelled back in the 194os.

  • A New Open Thread.
  • @Colin Wright
    Lol.

    'Israel Labels Dublin 'Capital of Antisemitism' for Considering Renaming Park Honoring Ex-president Herzog'
     
    If that's all they can come up with for 'the capital,' Jews must be doing pretty well.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Clutching at straws.
    It reminds me of a character in James Joyce’s Ulysses who remarks half-seriously that Ireland did not persecute the Jews because it did not let them in in the first place.

    • Replies: @24th Alabama
    @Wielgus

    Unfortunately, Ireland did allow some Jews to enter. In the case of Limerick,
    affectionately known as "Pigtown," the scent of frying bacon drove them nuts.
    When they learned that swine orgasms last 3o minutes, unbearable envy
    caused them to leave.

    Replies: @Wielgus

  • Given the high visibility of the Israeli genocide being carried out in Gaza, for the first time many among the American general public are beginning to ask why a rich country like Israel should be getting billions of dollars from the United States taxpayer to pay for waging its war when many Americans are struggling....
  • @Wokechoke
    @Notsofast

    Whatever happened to the second Reich?

    Replies: @Notsofast, @Wielgus

    Ended by defeat in WW1 and the proclamation of the Republic, though many Germans did not accept the latter.

  • Readers may have noticed that I have sometimes used the terms psychiatrist and psychoanalyst interchangeably. Before reading Jeffrey Masson, I believed they were essentially different things. It’s true that I had experience with Giuseppe Amara, who appears in the Mexican media as a psychoanalyst but acts as a psychiatrist when faced with family problems. But...
  • @werpor
    @Gbyut

    Yeah! It’s enough to drive one crazy. Universities slowly and gradually became propaganda machines; then suddenly, after WWII they became propaganda machines!

    During the reign of Bloody Mary, certain of my ancestors went to Leiden, then on to Geneva. Learning in those days, was not propaganda, nor were the universities propaganda departments. It fact learning then was considered to be antithetical, in contrast to main stream religion, especially Roman Catholicism under Bloody Mary. She wanted the England’s throne! She wanted the power! She used church power to propagandize. Suddenly she lost her head.

    No question Jews hijacked the universities while transforming them into propaganda machines. Rather than school being a place of inquiry, i.e., a place where questions are encouraged, they became agents of the prevailing dogmatism which bedevils the Jews and everyone else. Their sphere of influence and their search for absolutes or belief in absolutes is an obsession. It is persuasive too!

    Think advertising, both persuasive and seductive. And in many ways exclusionary. Most of the stuff we buy is bought to set us apart. The ones with the most stuff, or experiences or adventures appears virtuous in our society. Yes I wrote *appears to be virtuous*!

    Universities though soon attracted those who were of the religious determination. Universities in America were founded on religious principles. Religion is larded with dogma—especially the Abrahamic tripartite. They received and transformed much more ancient stories and myths but for the most part the mark was missed.

    Genuine *religious* feeling is personal. It cannot be inculcated by force, dogma, or persuasion. Nor useful when inculcated by demanding the students remember thousands of verses of religious dogma aided by “shuckling” back and forth as Jews do in their ‘yeshivas’.

    Each of the three Abrahamic religions are violent in their own peculiar ways. They do violence to the mind, the body and the emotions.

    Each of them are fragments of an ancient whole. Splitting the emotions, the mind, and the real sensation of the body into three discordant essences, devoid of a *inner* master, is a disaster.

    The concept of three persons under one god is a simple way of showing that those three discordant essences are to be brought under the master in the house—thus are incorporated.

    A master? Yes. Much more ancient teachings than the ones inherent in the Abrahamic devolution included the understanding that only teaching by example was teaching. Mastery could only be proved by evidence of it. Mastery, was not proved and could not be proved when one of the essences was manifestly dominant. Hence mastery of self was manifested and not merely said to exist. The three essences when united merge into one.

    Without that *inner* mastery, passed on by those proved in it—incorporating the mind, the body, the emotions—men would turn mad!

    Without that *inner* mastery, an *outer* absence of composure would be evident. And of course, there is nothing that the ego loves more than attaching to a discordant and inharmonious aspect of the unincorporated mind.

    It was taught that certain individuals, having almost obtained *inner* harmony, might defect and submit to the dominance of the essence part that they had failed to integrate, or wilfully chose not to integrate. At which point the almost master has advanced enough to be said to have abdicated.

    Then, instead of the acolytes energies being integrated into—the one, the master, the wholeness of being—then, the discordant and more dominant of one of the three discordant essences, would most certainly be stealing its energies from each one of the other two essences. Then the three essences will *war* —manifesting outwardly as madness.

    The priestly class sought to curb that possibility. But, if the acolyte failed to prove the requisite mastery over his discordant essences, it was no doubt understood that to act other than decisively was weakness.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @Annacath

    Learning could be propagandistic. In Protestant universities, doctorates could be awarded for theses maintaining that the Pope was Antichrist. This certainly happened in universities like Oxford and Cambridge. Polemics during the Reformation could be vicious. Until the early 20th century, Catholic polemicists maintained that Martin Luther worshipped the Devil.

    • Replies: @JM
    @Wielgus


    Catholic polemicists maintained that Martin Luther worshipped the Devil.
     
    I don't want to harp on it but this is the 'considered opinion' of one 'E. Michael Jones' today, in fact he takes it further...

    E. Michael Jones Explains Why Protestantism is SATANIC!!! | David L. Gray - Off Code & Unscripted

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNE0t_gg_Rg


    I wouldn't bother with this freak except for the fact that he has many Roman Catholic supporters, most youthful, not a few of whom post on TUR.

    Strange that a Roman Catholic, let alone this half-baked academic cherry picker today has the gall to make such outrageous and mendacious claims.

    'A Catholic Priest that couldn't control his passions' indeed. LOL!

  • The klepto-nepotistic regime of Volodymyr Zelensky is circling the toilet bowl as yet another corruption scandal soils his good name and tarnishes Ukraine’s reputation for fighting on behalf of all Europeans for democratic values. The aptly named Operation Midas has brought to light an immense extortion racket worth 100 million dollars. Published photos show the...
  • Sometimes under Thatcher there would be calls for old-fashioned values, and the media morality watchdog Mary Whitehouse was keen on her, but just under the surface the Thatcherite Tories were quite louche. (Sometimes it was no longer just under the surface but quite obvious.) That she tried several times to get Jimmy Savile a knighthood, finally succeeding just before she left office, is a very telling fact.

  • @Wokechoke
    @EliteCommInc.

    What we call the Russian Mob in the west is principally Jews. Russian oligarchs were 80-90% Jewish. Russian ethnics can’t run off. They literally can’t fuck off. Even the Czar was denied Entry to the British Empire. Jewish shysters and cosmopolitans always could defect or run off with assets.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @JR Foley

    The British comedian Kenny Everett died of AIDS in 1995. I read his biography. He contracted the disease from a highly promiscuous male friend, Nikolai Grishanovich, who was from Russia. The biography skated past this but Grishanovich came to Britain at a time when virtually nobody from the USSR was getting to the West except on the “Jewish quota”.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Wielgus

    Not to mention that Everett was a top Thatcherite celebrity too. Her cabinet were almost all Old Estonians.

  • Masking black-on-white homicides has been the norm for the legacy media for the past century. We’re here to pull the cover off its cover-up. The woke left is adept at bending reality to fit its narrative, often ignoring scientific consensus in favor of ideological agendas. For instance, while science acknowledges the biological binary of sex,...
  • @Colin Wright
    Not exactly good news, but progress.

    https://twitter.com/TooWhiteToTweet/status/1992697690338034028?s=20

    Deceased black dude used to make a habit of this: hitting on white girls right in front of their boyfriends, refusing to back off, then decking the white guy without warning.

    He used to boast of his exploits on social media: 'what's Timmy goin' do?'

    He found out what Timmy was going to do. I figured white guy would get convicted; I never thought the conviction would be reversed.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    It reminds me of the film Con Air at the start. The main character, Cameron Poe, (Nicholas Cage), a US Army Ranger, kills a man while defending his girl friend and gets sent to jail for seven years. People commenting on the film tend to believe such a thing would never happen but I’m not so sure.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    'It reminds me of the film Con Air at the start. The main character, Cameron Poe, (Nicholas Cage), a US Army Ranger, kills a man while defending his girl friend and gets sent to jail for seven years. People commenting on the film tend to believe such a thing would never happen but I’m not so sure.'
     
    Of course it would happen. Hence what was 'the doctrine of the reasonable man' is now legend.

    I heard about it from an emphatically reliable -- if deficient in other respects -- source. He must have graduated from law school around 1950. His professor had illustrated the concept with a case: dude had been beaten up in public by the town bully. The town bully then proceeded to piddle on him -- in front of the whole town -- while he lay prostrate. Dude went home, got a gun, came back, and shot and killed the bully.

    Was his act a criminal offense? No: it was what any reasonable man would have done under the circumstances.

    Obviously, it's a judicially obsolete concept. We've moved forward into those broad, sunlit uplands.
  • A Critique of Robert Spencer’s, Antisemitism: History and Myth, from Bombadier Books, 366 pages. Mr. Robert Spencer has published his twenty-ninth book, entitled Antisemitism: History and Myth (henceforth Antisemitism). Mr. Spencer is mainly known for his work on the study of Islam and jihad (The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam [and the Crusades], The Truth...
  • @Colin Wright

    Ironically, types like Engel agree with the more hard-shelled Third Reich apologists – it was all about the Jews. Hitler rehabilitation goes hand in hand with a Jewish version of pre-WW1 Italy’s “sacred egoism”.
    I would also mention the Third Reich’s drive to Lebensraum in the east. The Poles and even more the Soviets were a barrier to this. Though the Poles were themselves frequently anti-Semitic, their continued existence was an obstacle to these Third Reich ambitions. So the Poles were to be assimilated as Volksdeutsch, expelled or killed.
     
    In a way, it or the like may have inevitable. Hitler's revolution released a whole lot of energy, and it all had to go somewhere. Given the racial nationalism and implied violence of the whole movement, guess what? Train up four million young Germans in quasi-military organizations...well, now what are you going to do with them all? It must have all been building to a fever pitch of nationalist exhaltation. Much is made of the average German's distaste for going to war -- but the young men seem to have been wild about the idea.

    Of course, the Germans certainly could have behaved more nicely -- but if you're trying to be nice, why conquer your neighbor at all? In a way, the need to release all that energy required an ideology that would make the actions of the Nazis seem reasonable to themselves. Without a doctrine such as Lebensraum, how can you reasonably go stomping off to the Volga? A criticism of Bolshevism is that it was a doctrine in search of a victim; the workers had to want to revolt, else the doctrine made no sense. Nazism was violent energy in search of a war; one of the reasons I'm skeptical of arguments that go 'if only the British had...' or whatever. Maybe the genie was going to come out of the bottle -- whatever the details.

    As for the Jews, I suspect there had to be an other; something the Nazis could point to and say, 'this is what we are not; this is who we are going to exclude.' If the scapegoat wasn't going to be the Jews, it would have had to have been somebody else.

    However, all this is not quite the same as saying the Holocaust was inevitable. As I speculated, given a different turn of events, it all could have played out like the expulsion of the Indians from Uganda or the like.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @Marcali

    German pacifists in the 1932 election campaigns warned that an NSDAP victory sooner or later meant war. They were right, of course, but either they convinced few or there was a significant constituency of Germans who wanted war and naturally were not turned off by the prospect of one.
    According to The Weimar Chronicle one of the tunes played in Berlin to celebrate Hitler being made Chancellor was entitled Victoriously We Will Crush The French.
    William Shirer commented on how fit and healthy young German soldiers looked in 1940, in contrast to British POWs who looked like the Depression had taken a toll of them – pasty-faced, missing teeth etc. Shirer may have been reacting to selected propaganda newsreel images but there was undoubtedly a kernel of truth in them. Germany had looked after its young, particularly its males, and Britain had not. However, it was preparing them for war, and Britain was not.

    • Thanks: Kingsmeg
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    '...Germany had looked after its young, particularly its males, and Britain had not. However, it was preparing them for war, and Britain was not...'
     
    That's perhaps unfair to Nazism. It really was a very benevolent, egalitarian movement, concerned for the welfare of all.

    ...all who were German and gentile who weren't Communists or deviants in some other way, that is.

    And my suspicion is that this benevolence implied an other. An other who would be hated, and excluded, and ultimately, destroyed. My position is that Nazi Germany indeed had a lot to be said for it -- but perhaps a peaceful, tolerant Nazi Germany was an oxymoron.
  • @Colin Wright
    @Zumbuddi


    'I just finished listening to 14 lectures by holocaust scholar David Engel.
    The series opens with the declaration, repeated at least a dozen times, that “Hitler set out to kill every single Jew he could get his hands on” because “this was the main purpose of Nazism.”'
     
    I customarily differ with Holocaust deniers, but assertions such as the ones you mention are also ridiculous.

    Far from 'setting out to kill' all the Jews he could; Hitler only appears to have settled on extermination when expulsion proved impractical. It was part and parcel of the drift to total war that occurred over the course of 1941-42. Had history taken a different turn, the Jews could merely have found themselves forcibly expelled from those parts of Europe dominated by Germany. One can, for example, see Britain and France acceding to their 'evacuation' (to adopt the Israelism) as part of a general peace settlement in the aftermath of France's defeat.

    As to killing all the Jews being 'the main purpose of Nazism,' that's nonsense. Nazism sought a regenerated, racially pure Germany -- and perceived the continued presence of the Jews as inimical to that. But to leap from that to seeing killing Jews as the main purpose of the movement of the movement is akin to seeing my motive in purchasing the land I've bought on the river as being to kill Douglas firs. I have had several large trees cut down -- but actually, my purpose in doing so was to clear a plot for a house, not to kill trees.

    Some of the more extreme revisionists appear to insist Hitler was goodness incarnate and Nazism an unalloyed good as well. That's nonsense -- but so is the notion that Hitler was entirely evil and the sole purpose of Nazism to make it always winter and never Christmas. That's suitable for such charming children's tales as The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe -- it's not history.

    It follows that this David Engel should not be regarded as a scholar so much as a polemicist; after all, he begins with statements that however congenial they may be to the ears of his listeners, are historically indefensible, and obviously so.

    Replies: @Zumbuddi, @Hypnotoad666, @Wielgus

    Ironically, types like Engel agree with the more hard-shelled Third Reich apologists – it was all about the Jews. Hitler rehabilitation goes hand in hand with a Jewish version of pre-WW1 Italy’s “sacred egoism”.
    I would also mention the Third Reich’s drive to Lebensraum in the east. The Poles and even more the Soviets were a barrier to this. Though the Poles were themselves frequently anti-Semitic, their continued existence was an obstacle to these Third Reich ambitions. So the Poles were to be assimilated as Volksdeutsch, expelled or killed.

  • The other day, waiting for a connecting flight in Porto, Portugal, I decided to visit the old city center. Stopping for a coffee in a local cafe, I was surprised to be attended by personnel addressing me in American English, despite my placing the order in Portuguese, though with a Brazilian accent. As my ears...
  • @Colin Wright
    @Carolyn Yeager


    'You don’t know what took place between Hitler and Geli; no one does. It’s all speculation on your part. But you blithely make un-sourced comments here all the time playing as if you’re ‘in the know’. You’ve logged over 26,000 [!!!!] comments in 10 years. That has to be a record. Do you do anything else? That might be a reason your wife is not so malleable to your wishes...'
     
    Etc. Obviously, I shouldn't have cast aspersions on your beloved Hitler.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    26,000! Such diligence. I’ve only logged about 4,000. I must up my game…

  • @Hartmann
    @Patrick McNally


    You’re the one who is stuck in denial and doesn’t want to admit that the vast mass of Russians spontaneously rose up and toppled the Czarist monarchy with nary a Jew in sight...

    These demonstrations were entirely spontaneous. They had not been organized either by any of the old political parties or by any newly-formed political body. Neither the Bolsheviks nor the Mensheviks nor the Socialist Revolutionaries, whose underground groups were almost extinct in those days, ever claimed to have played any part in the outbreak of unrest.
     

    Possibly your romantic interpretation is correct. A more conspiratorial take was given by Nathan Smith, “The Role of Russian Freemasonry in the February Revolution: Another Scrap of Evidence,” Slavic Review, 1968.

    In addition to the Bolsheviks etc. were an influential group of men animated (at the middle levels, at least) by the philosophes' cry that "Man cannot be free until the last King is strangled with the entrails of the last Priest." The writer and editor at the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Lorenz Jäger, noted in his 2009 book, Hinter dem Große Orient:


    There is a photo of the Provisional Government: You can see the first prime minister, Prince Georgy Lvov, next to him Konovalov, Kerensky ... Guchkov, Vladimir, N. Nekrasov, Manuilov, Shingarev, and Godnev. Of these, the following were Freemasons: Kerensky, Shingarev, Guchkov, Konovalov, Nekrasov, Tereshchenko, and Rodichev.
     
    According to Michael Hesemann, "The de-Christianization of Russia had already begun half a year before the October Revolution."

    The extent to which Russia changed as a result of the February Revolution was noted by the French ambassador Maurice Paleologue, who described in his diaries the new regime's first major public appearance, a celebration in honor of the victims of the revolutionary days:

    What strikes me most is what is missing from the celebration: the clergy. No priests, no icons, no prayers, no crosses. A single song: the Workers' Marseillaise. Since the ancient times of St. Olga and St. Vladimir, since the Russian people entered world history, this is the first time that a major national event has taken place without the support of the Church.

    -- Die große Täuschung, pp. 417 f., citing Paleologue, Am Zarenhof während des Weltkriegs (Munich, 1939), p. 450.
     

    Replies: @Wielgus, @Patrick McNally

    The Masonic connection reminds me – the Polish Franciscan priest Maximilian Kolbe put a fair amount of effort into anti-Masonic campaigns, regarding Freemasons as enemies of the Catholic Church. He was sent to Auschwitz in 1941 and killed there.
    Andrei Shingarev, Freemason, was imprisoned shortly after the October Revolution and, along with Kokoshkin, another Provisional Government member, killed in early 1918 when Red sailors broke into the prison where they were held (whether they did so with authorisation by the new Soviet government is still uncertain, but they were not punished for the murders).
    Anti-Masonic, pro-Masonic… Didn’t necessarily matter in the 20th century. Perhaps because other factors were at work.

  • https://www.famousfix.com/topic/przyjazn-magazine-poland-15-july-1983

    When in the Soviet Union in 1984, I remember seeing this magazine in hotels, aimed at Polish visitors. Przyjaźń (“Friendship”) was published by the Polish-Soviet Friendship Society. It did not survive the end of the Soviet bloc.

  • @Colin Wright

    '...Note that he is described as serving the King, ie. Frederick the Great, not Prussia. Bräker had little loyalty to either, naturally.'
     
    It all sounds remarkably like the portrayal of the Prussian army offered in Kubrick's Barry Lyndon. Thackeray wrote the original novel; maybe he'd read the same memoirs.

    In general, it's interesting how the concept of 'the nation' rose from some kind of subsidiary consideration to something people seriously were willing to cast away their lives for. People sometimes were aware of what would later become their nationality -- but other forms of identity were more significant.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Possibly Thackeray, or even Kubrick, read the memoirs of Bräker. Incidentally they were on my university syllabus as an example of German literature, though I found them more interesting as history than as literature.
    Bräker’s regiment, called Itzenplitz (in a number of armies of the 18th century, regiments were named after their commander) was apparently regarded as one of the elite infantry regiments in the Prussian Army in 1756, but Bräker was not even the only Swiss man enrolled in it unwillingly, not to speak of other non-Prussians. I can only suppose less well-regarded regiments had even larger numbers of troops conscripted by force.

  • @Truth Vigilante
    @Wielgus

    Responding to the individual called Colon Wrong, you wrote:


    You strike me as being reasonably objective on the subject of Poland
     
    This individual is anything but objective.
    His tiny brain is full of falsehoods about WWII and the Holohoax.
    No amount of verified and fact checked evidence will sway him from the indoctrination he was subjected to by way of Jewish sources and his faulty ZOG controlled public education.

    UR readers may not be aware, but Colon Wrong long ago put my comments on 'delete/Ignore' mode (or whatever the terminology it is).
    In other words, this thin-skinned little man started sulking after I embarrassed him repeatedly in the past, after I proved what he wrote was fallacious.

    Rather than debate those contentious issues with me and try to win over the UR readership by force of argument, this weasel RAN AWAY. You see, he is intellectually bankrupt.
    Colon Wrong is unable to challenge/refute anything that John Wear writes.
    Instead he badgers him, adds nothing to the discourse, and is just an all around nuisance.

    Replies: @Wielgus

  • @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    'Interestingly, his entering military service with an enemy of France does not seem to have been regarded as treason.'
     
    What may help to explain this are Eugene's own words: he saw it as a matter of holding a grudge against the King of France, not 'France.' Back then, people seemed to see loyalty as owed to a monarch, not a geographical entity. One didn't owe fealty to 'Prussia,' but to the King of Prussia. Highlanders didn't fight the Royal Army at Culloden because they were for or against Great Britain; they fought over whether a Stuart or a Hanoverian should sit on the throne. So, (literally) rejected by Louis XIV, Eugene takes service with the Austrian monarch instead, vows fealty to him, and thereafter serves him faithfully. It all must have made perfect sense to him.

    The Nineteenth Century, universal education, and universal military service, and the rise of the middle class changed all that; kings were more or less tactfully shoved aside and the nation became all. But back in the day, while there was some notion of nationality, it just wasn't the most important factor in people's thinking. The King of France ruled over bits that spoke German, the Prussian monarchs had Polish-speaking regiments, and there was no Italy. What of it?

    It can be very interesting. If one reads late Nineteenth Century medievalists, they keep talking about the 'the German nation' or 'the French nation' -- in the Twelfth Century or whatever. They just cannot rid themselves of the notion of the nation as the primary beneficiary of sentiments of loyalty, community spirit, etc. But back then, 'the nation' wasn't there. They're reasoning about phantoms.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Stuart Reid, a somewhat controversial expert on the 1745-6 Jacobite rebellion, detects rejection of the 1707 Act Of Union as a factor in the support of some Scottish Jacobites for the rebellion. And he attributes this to nascent Scottish nationalism. Certainly compared to the 1715 rebellion, active Jacobites were overwhelmingly Scots. The earlier rebellion had had a significant English element. In 1745 the only significant English participation was by the Manchester Regiment, and when the rebellion was defeated they were treated with special harshness. Jacobite sympathy was widespread in England (Samuel Johnson for example may have harboured such sentiments) but few were prepared to take up arms.
    The other points, though, yes. A Swiss by the name of Ulrich Bräker was unwillingly drafted into the Prussian Army in 1756. Here is an extract from his memoirs:

    “For God’s sake, Herr Zittemann,” I went on, “what does this mean?” – “Nothing, sir”, answered he, “except that you, like me and the other gentlemen here, are a soldier, and consequently we’re all brothers, and making objections won’t help you any, but will put you on bread and water in the guardhouse, and tie you hand and foot, and flog you so your ribs crack, and then maybe you’ll be satisfied.” I: “By Christ, that would be an outrage, a godless thing!” He: “Take my word for it, that’s how it goes and not otherwise.” I:”Then I will make complaint to the King.” Here they all laughed loudly. He: “Never in your life would you get to see him”. I:”Who should I ask, then?” He: “Our Major, if you like. But it will do you no good, no good at all.” I:”Well, I shall try it at all events, and see if – and see if it’s really as you say”. The lads laughed again, but I resolved nevertheless to go to the Major next morning and enquire after my faithless master.
    So soon as next day dawned in the sky, I found out the way to the Major’s lodgings. Ye gods! it seemed to me like a king’s palace, and the Major was like the King himself, so majestic did he appear to me, a big powerful man, with the face of a hero and a pair of fiery eyes like stars. I trembled before him and stuttered: “Herr…Major! I am…Herr Lieutenant Markoni’s ser…servant. F…f…for that he took me on, and n…nothing else b…besides. Y…you can ask him your…s…self. I…I don’t know where he i…is. Now they’re saying I must b…be a s…o…soldier, wh…whether I like it or not”. – “So”, he broke in, “you are the meritorious little servant, are you! Your fine master has been spending our money fit to make one laugh, and no doubt you got your share. In short, you are to serve the King now, and that’s the last word on the subject”. I: “But, Herr Major” He: “Silence, my lad or you’ll be under guard!” I: “But I have no contract or enlistment bounty! Ah, could I only speak with my master!” He: “You won’t see him again for the present, and in the enlistment bounty you have already cost as much as ten others. Your Lieutenant has made a pretty account of his expenses, and you stand at the head of it. But as for your contract, you shall have it.” I: “But -” He: “Out with you, why, you little runt -” I: “I b…beg of you -” He: “You rascal! Go to the devil!” With that he drew his sword. I was out of the house like a thief caught red-handed, and off to my lodging, hardly able to find the way again, such was my grief and fear.

    There I bewailed my wretchedness long and loud to Zittemann. The good man tried to hearten me: “Patience, my son! Things will go better soon. Now you have fallen on evil days, and many likely lads from good families must do the same. For, granted that Markoni could and would keep you on, even so, he would have to put you into his regiment, as soon as word came for quick march to the front! And indeed, he would be in no position to maintain a servant for the present, for he is said to have paid out monstrous sums on his recruiting, and yet have brought in so few men, that I’ve many a time heard our colonel and our major lamenting over him, and they won’t be in any hurry to send him out on that business again.” Thus Zittemann comforted me, and I had to be content with it, for no better comfort could I get. But I said to myself: it’s the great ones of the earth who prepare such dishes, and us lesser folk have to lick the plates.

    46. So it’s true that I’m a soldier?

    In the afternoon the sergeant-major brought me my bread-ration and my weapons, and asked me if I were now better content with my situation. “And why not?” answered Zittemann for me, “He’s as good a lad as you can find.” Then I was led into the uniform store, and fitted out with breeches, boots and gaiters, and given a hat, a stock, hose and so forth. Then, together with about twenty other recruits, I was sent to Colonel Latorf. They led us into a hall as big as a church, brought out some banners, all tattered and torn, and ordered us each to take hold of an edge. An adjutant, or somebody, read us out a whole pack of Articles of War, and pronounced some words which most of us murmured after him. I kept my jaw shut, thinking of nothing in particular, Ännchen maybe; then he waved the flag over our heads and dismissed us.

    Bräker had been hired as a servant by the Markoni mentioned in the text, who despite the Italian-sounding name was a Pole. But he turned out to be a lieutenant in the Prussian Army, hence the situation Bräker was now in. Bräker went on to describe taking part in the battle of Lobositz, where he deserted, and eventually was able to return to Switzerland. Note that he is described as serving the King, ie. Frederick the Great, not Prussia. Bräker had little loyalty to either, naturally.

  • @Colin Wright
    @Carolyn Yeager


    So Colin, you’ve made this type of accusation more than once now.What do you base it on — your chummy feelings toward Polish people, or maybe your belief the Poles were/are the underdog in this matchup?
     
    You're going to have to fight that one out with tolken et al: is Colin a Pole lover or a Pole hater?

    Wielgus can score the match.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    You strike me as being reasonably objective on the subject of Poland. Whether that qualifies or disqualifies me from scoring the match, who can say?

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
    @Wielgus

    Responding to the individual called Colon Wrong, you wrote:


    You strike me as being reasonably objective on the subject of Poland
     
    This individual is anything but objective.
    His tiny brain is full of falsehoods about WWII and the Holohoax.
    No amount of verified and fact checked evidence will sway him from the indoctrination he was subjected to by way of Jewish sources and his faulty ZOG controlled public education.

    UR readers may not be aware, but Colon Wrong long ago put my comments on 'delete/Ignore' mode (or whatever the terminology it is).
    In other words, this thin-skinned little man started sulking after I embarrassed him repeatedly in the past, after I proved what he wrote was fallacious.

    Rather than debate those contentious issues with me and try to win over the UR readership by force of argument, this weasel RAN AWAY. You see, he is intellectually bankrupt.
    Colon Wrong is unable to challenge/refute anything that John Wear writes.
    Instead he badgers him, adds nothing to the discourse, and is just an all around nuisance.

    Replies: @Wielgus

  • To take the theme a bit further, the best “French” general of the 18th century prior to Napoleon, Maurice de Saxe, was an illegitimate son of the king of Poland and Saxony. Perhaps he was a sort of compensation for the best “Austrian” general of the late 17th and early 18th century being in fact a Frenchman.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    To take the theme a bit further, the best “French” general of the 18th century prior to Napoleon, Maurice de Saxe, was an illegitimate son of the king of Poland and Saxony. Perhaps he was a sort of compensation for the best “Austrian” general of the late 17th and early 18th century being in fact a Frenchman.
     
    I've noticed the disproportionate tendency of foreigners and semi-foreigners to rise to positions of prominence. Napoleon was Corsican, Stalin Georgian, Hitler Austrian.

    Churchill's mother was American, the current president of El Salvador is Palestinian. Romania had an ethnic German as president or prime minister a decade or two back. Dot-Indians have eagerly stormed the ramparts of the citadel of power both here and in Great Britain. I at least go on about excessive -- and destructive -- Jewish influence. That's true enough -- but it may also be a reflection of a larger principle. The outsider can't just accept an allotted place. He has to sink or swim.
  • @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    '...Eugene of Savoy tried to get a commission in Louis XIV’s army (he too was a native French speaker)...'
     
    ...but it was the Germans who put him to good use! He had a heavy cruiser (the Prinz Eugen) and an SS division made up of ethnic Germans from Transylvania and Hungary (SS Prinz Eugen) named after him.

    Eugene doesn't seem to have been just some kind of borderline Frenchman, either. He was the real McCoy -- or near enough.

    '...Born in Paris, to the son of a French count and a niece of Cardinal Mazarin, Eugene was raised at the court of King Louis XIV...'
     

    Replies: @Wielgus

    By today’s standards he was certainly a Frenchman. For a variety of reasons he was denied the opportunity to make a career in France. Interestingly, his entering military service with an enemy of France does not seem to have been regarded as treason.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    'Interestingly, his entering military service with an enemy of France does not seem to have been regarded as treason.'
     
    What may help to explain this are Eugene's own words: he saw it as a matter of holding a grudge against the King of France, not 'France.' Back then, people seemed to see loyalty as owed to a monarch, not a geographical entity. One didn't owe fealty to 'Prussia,' but to the King of Prussia. Highlanders didn't fight the Royal Army at Culloden because they were for or against Great Britain; they fought over whether a Stuart or a Hanoverian should sit on the throne. So, (literally) rejected by Louis XIV, Eugene takes service with the Austrian monarch instead, vows fealty to him, and thereafter serves him faithfully. It all must have made perfect sense to him.

    The Nineteenth Century, universal education, and universal military service, and the rise of the middle class changed all that; kings were more or less tactfully shoved aside and the nation became all. But back in the day, while there was some notion of nationality, it just wasn't the most important factor in people's thinking. The King of France ruled over bits that spoke German, the Prussian monarchs had Polish-speaking regiments, and there was no Italy. What of it?

    It can be very interesting. If one reads late Nineteenth Century medievalists, they keep talking about the 'the German nation' or 'the French nation' -- in the Twelfth Century or whatever. They just cannot rid themselves of the notion of the nation as the primary beneficiary of sentiments of loyalty, community spirit, etc. But back then, 'the nation' wasn't there. They're reasoning about phantoms.

    Replies: @Wielgus

  • @tolkin
    @Wielgus

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-L07770%2C_Manfred_v._Killinger.jpg


    Indeed. That killer's look...

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Nazi Party Golden Badge on his lapel, and what looks like the SA badge though that organisation was in decline by then.

  • @Colin Wright
    @tolkin


    '...The hunting horn of Sigismund III Vasa: A valuable trophy that can also be viewed in the Swedish collections...'
     
    Maybe it was an artifact of the period when Sigismund was king of Sweden?

    Really, your assumption that it was 'loot' from Poland may be an example of the pitfalls of imposing your modern nationalist preconceptions on an era dominated more by religious and dynastic concerns. Were 'the Swedes' ever waging war on 'the Poles' -- or was it more a matter of Protestants vs. Catholics or even of adherents of the House of Vasa vs their rivals?

    I don't know -- or even care. However, I think that just assuming that horn was a Polish horn stolen by the Swedes may be anachronistic. People didn't necessarily think that way back then. You do: did they?

    Replies: @Wielgus, @tolkin

    Quite possibly. Arguments for example over whether Copernicus was a Pole or a German may be beside the point – he himself may never have given it much thought. The Emperor Charles V had French as his native language though he knew several others – Hapsburgs often had to. He had no difficulty fighting France in war and his troops captured the French king Francis I. Later Eugene of Savoy tried to get a commission in Louis XIV’s army (he too was a native French speaker), was rather contemptuously turned down and became one of Louis’ most dangerous opponents on the battlefield, fighting for Austria.
    Even later on, in the 18th century, the future Prussian Marshal Blücher, born in Mecklenburg-Schwerin, became a hussar in the Swedish army. Sweden at the time still held a chunk of Pomerania, a relic of the Thirty Years’ War. The Prussians captured him in 1760 and he had little difficulty in becoming a Prussian officer. It was probably not until the Napoleonic Wars and after that modern nationalism took hold.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    '...It was probably not until the Napoleonic Wars and after that modern nationalism took hold.'
     
    This applies to all our '-isms'; they aren't as eternal as we assume.

    For example, back in my puppy years, there was a fad for 'herstory'; history rewritten as a chronicle of feminist solidarity and male oppression.

    Somebody pointed out that the notion that a medieval noblewoman would have identified with a female serf in the fields over her brothers was, to put it tactfully, absurd.

    Ditto for all our current 'isms.' A modern resident of Munich might identify as white first, German second, Catholic third, and as Bavarian in fourth. Go to the eighteenth century, and that's Catholic first, Bavarian second, German a distant third -- and of course we're all white. Even if the categories existed then, the order was different.

    I remember being struck by the difference when I was a kid. An eighteenth century Prussian nobleman could in good conscience take service with the King of France. That seemed incredible to me.
    , @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    'Quite possibly. Arguments for example over whether Copernicus was a Pole or a German may be beside the point – he himself may never have given it much thought.'
     
    What's interesting about this is that it wouldn't stop us from finding the question significant. I'm reasonably confident I could get an argument going with 'tolken' right now. I'd be very sure Copernicus should be German and I assume he would be firmly attached to a conviction that he was Polish.

    We can no more wean ourselves from the more visceral components of our outlook than an observant Jew could feel happy about a nice pork roast for dinner.

    Replies: @Avery

    , @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    '...Eugene of Savoy tried to get a commission in Louis XIV’s army (he too was a native French speaker)...'
     
    ...but it was the Germans who put him to good use! He had a heavy cruiser (the Prinz Eugen) and an SS division made up of ethnic Germans from Transylvania and Hungary (SS Prinz Eugen) named after him.

    Eugene doesn't seem to have been just some kind of borderline Frenchman, either. He was the real McCoy -- or near enough.

    '...Born in Paris, to the son of a French count and a niece of Cardinal Mazarin, Eugene was raised at the court of King Louis XIV...'
     

    Replies: @Wielgus

  • @tolkin
    @Avery

    Dirlewanger's membership number in NSDAP was No. 12,517 - one of the earliest members.


    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Oskar_Paul_Dirlewanger.jpg

    Physiognomy of a psychopath.
    Well educated.


    Interesting combination of high intellect and sadism. Quite typical for his kind.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manfred_Freiherr_von_Killinger

    He reminds me of this guy, though Killinger seems to have been beefier physically. Also a sadist. When the German position collapsed in Romania in 1944, Killinger failed to escape and ended up committing suicide.

    • Replies: @tolkin
    @Wielgus

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-L07770%2C_Manfred_v._Killinger.jpg


    Indeed. That killer's look...

    Replies: @Wielgus

  • Revolutions are funny things. They start out almost imperceptible. The final straw itself may be as inconsequential as a single voice in the crowd whose words unleash a tidal wave that sweeps aside the seemingly intractable old order forever. Even as the cracks in the Eastern Bloc began to materialize in 1989, starting in June...
  • @Petrea
    @peterAUS

    I was 12 at the time and overwhelmed with joy at the news that the tyrant was o more.
    We were living in Bistriţa , which is a quiet town in northern Romania, not that far away from the border with ( then ) USSR.
    Sometime in november '89 (around my birthday), a convoy of black Lada cars (there were about 15) moved down the boulevard and stopped to ask directions for Timişoara. I know this because I was one of the people they asked. I was studying russian in school, so I could understand what they were saying . I was not able to help them because at that age I didn't know in which direction to point them to. Those cars were each carrying 4 men - all dressed wearing the same dark clothing .
    Some years later my parents had some guests visiting and my father told them a story that rang some proverbial bells. He worked in construction and as his team was deployed further north-east from Bistriţa, they were approached by well-built men dressed in black asking for directions to Timişoara. My father showed them the route on the map they had with them. He also told of a number of black Lada cars that were carrying these men.
    That was my direct experience concerning the events of '89.

    There were stories in romanian newspapers about the involvement of AVO (hungarian espionage) in the "revolution" shortly after the events.

    To your points: (and this is from information put together after the events)
    1.The members USLA (Unitatea Specială de Luptă Antiterorism - Antiterror Fighting Unit) were murdered by the army in a staged event of friendly fire at the Otopeni Airport (General Militaru was a soviet agent). Their dead bodies were presented on TV as bodies of terrorists. There were people in the crowd, shooting in order to create panic. I doubt they were members of Securitate. Could be those individuals dressed in dark clothing asking for directions. I imagine there were such groups of men deployed in other major towns.
    You have to understand that the bolshevik regime installed in Romania in 1947 was not an organic romanian movement. Look at the true names of those people. Through the mid 60s there was this joke at the UN that Israel participates at that body's meetings with two delegations: one from Tel Aviv and one from Bucharest.
    Ceauşescu's ascension was (as I see it) sort of romanians trying to take over the communist party.
    It was partly successful but , as Kennedy did not have control over the CIA, Ceauşescu (I think ) never had true control of Securitate.
    There are american documents dating back to the 80s which project the regime change operation for Romania (sanctions that were to cause dire economic conditions which would lead to the overthrow of the "tyrant").
    I begrudgingly said that Ceauşescu built a country. Well, we were manufacturing pretty much everything back then, including tyres for giant trucks (Japan was the other such manufacturer back then), we have an atomic power plant built back then...
    Yes , we saw bananas and oranges once a year, at Christmas time. We didn't have blue jeans
    The IMF loan was paid with tremendous sacrifices by april that year, but the interest demanded was pure thievery. Who controls the IMF? There was an effort led by Gaddafi , Saddam and Ceauşescu among others to put in place a financing mechanism in order to bypass the western banks.
    2. Why the rush to kill them ? I do not know. The order came from Silviu Brucan (alias of Saul Bruckner).
    Why the rush to kill the czar in 1917? I do not know. The order came from Lenin or Sverdlov.
    To me it was the same ritual public killing as in the case of the Kennedys, Alfred Herrhausen, Forrestal, Kirk and who knows how many others. There is a message that has to get to the goyim.

    Replies: @peterAUS, @Wielgus

    I read that the military judge who sentenced the Ceausescus to death committed suicide not long after, despite having been promoted. Perhaps he was Epsteined…

    • Replies: @Petrea
    @Wielgus

    This from the romanian wikipedia page:

    "From the beginning, Nicolae Ceaușescu contested the trial from a legal, not a political, point of view. He maintained his lucidity, from the beginning of the trial until the moment of execution.[15]

    From a legal point of view, the “Ceaușescu trial” took place in violation of legal procedural norms, namely: the lack of a notification act and the failure to register this act, the failure to communicate the notification act to the defendants, the failure to carry out a criminal investigation and a psychiatric examination during the criminal investigation, the failure to set a trial date, the impossibility of choosing defense attorneys, the failure to respect the deadline for filing an appeal and the failure to judge it. Romanian laws did not allow the death penalty to be applied less than ten days after the verdict became final and irrevocable.[6][16]
    The death sentence was pronounced at 14:45 and although the verdict was subject to appeal,[10][11] it was executed five minutes later (14:50), in the garrison yard, next to the guardhouse building.[17][18]
    In 1990, Colonel Gică Popa, the president of the court that sentenced the Ceaușescus to death, was promoted to the rank of general of justice. On 1 March 1990, a government statement announced that Gică Popa had committed suicide in his office.[26][27]"

    There were many death and suicides in the aftermath of december '89.

    I do not mean to upset anyone but my view is that there are no revolutions in the true sense of the word. There are engineered revolts that are meant to succeed . These come to be known as "revolutions" in history books (now we call this "regime change"). Who writes those history books? Genuine uprisings are invariably crushed/ quelled.

    In the US, honestly, I do not see the need for such a revolution. Regime change for who's benefit?
    The puppeteers have always been in power. There is no distinction between the US regime and the one in Tel Aviv. Oh, how right was George Galloway...

    Replies: @Looger

  • The other day, waiting for a connecting flight in Porto, Portugal, I decided to visit the old city center. Stopping for a coffee in a local cafe, I was surprised to be attended by personnel addressing me in American English, despite my placing the order in Portuguese, though with a Brazilian accent. As my ears...
  • “He gave a different account of the Warsaw uprising and seemed sincere.” Wow, that’s convincing. If he was defending a less Third Reich-friendly position I doubt whether you would be satisfied with a bland “he seemed sincere”.
    Dirlewanger… The late Richard Plant wrote a book called The Pink Triangle about the treatment of homosexuals in the Third Reich. Plant interviewed a German or Austrian who had been imprisoned for homosexuality, which was illegal. The man was released from his jail or concentration camp and then drafted into Dirlewanger’s unit which received all manner of criminals or those perceived as such. Dirlewanger was angered at being sent homosexuals as reinforcements, so they were taken to a forest and tied to trees, with pink triangles attached to their uniforms. The soldiers who tied them up spat on them and then left – it was the winter of 1944/5 and the intention behind leaving them there was that they should freeze to death. However, Plant’s source reported that a Red Army patrol found them and he was released – it is not clear that the others who were tied up were still alive. The Soviets did not understand what the pink triangles meant and may have assumed they had been treated like that for being anti-fascists. Plant’s source formed a homosexual relationship with an Armenian medical orderly in the Red Army. His lover used the Armenian diaspora network to arrange emigration to the USA. They both went to the USA post-war but the Armenian later died.

  • @Avery
    @Anne Lid

    An excellent overview of the Dirlewanger Brigade by British historian and author Mark Felton. For your viewing enjoyment of the "more integrity" behavior of Nazi German troops, Anne Lid.


    [Dirlewanger Brigade - Himmler's Convict Legion]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwVDMh7ZzgU
    ....

    Replies: @Wielgus, @tolkin

    Dirlewanger was partial to child molestation. Among his other characteristics…

    • Replies: @tolkin
    @Wielgus


    Dirlewanger was partial to child molestation. Among his other characteristics…

     

    His brigade was responsible for the WOLA massacre"

    "The Wola massacre (Polish: Rzeź Woli, lit. 'Wola slaughter') was the systematic killing of between 40,000 and 50,000 Poles in the Wola neighbourhood of the Polish capital city, Warsaw, by the German Waffen-SS, Ordnungpolizei, Sicherheitdienst and the SS-Sonderregiment Dirlewanger, which took place from 5 to 12 August 1944. The massacre was ordered by Heinrich Himmler, who directed to kill "anything that moves" to stop the Warsaw Uprising soon after it began.[a]"

    "Whole families, including babies, children and the elderly, were often shot on the spot, but some were killed after torture and sexual assault.[2] Soldiers murdered patients in hospitals, killing them in their beds, as well as the doctors and nurses caring for them. Dogs were let loose to find survivors to be killed."

    "The operation was led by Erich von dem Bach-Zelewski, though its most infamous perpetrators were the SS-Sonderregiment Dirlewanger whose forces committed the cruelest atrocities,[3] drawing criticism from Bach-Zelewski himself.[4] "


    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wola_massacre
  • @tolkin
    @John Wear


    the inhuman atrocities committed against the German minority in Poland prior to September 1, 1939
     
    Are you a robot? Or just retarded?

    I repeat one more time: provide the names and surnames of alleged German victims of Polish persecution or atrocities in the period leading up to World War II.

    If such persecution had occurred, their names, surnames, photos, locations, descriptions of the event, etc., would have been published and recycled in the German press and radio day and night.
    They would also likely have been published in the Polish press (e.g., the opposition) and, of course, the international press.

    You are a late victim of German Nazi propaganda.
The Germans lost the propaganda war to Anglo-Saxons. Perhaps that’s why you think they were always telling the truth.

    When the Germans discovered the graves of murdered Polish officers in Katyn, Joseph Goebbels and his ministry announced it to the entire world, along with their names, surnames, military ranks, etc.

    To think that thousands of Germans died at the hands of Poles, and Joseph Goebbels, a propaganda maestro, did not provide the Germans (and the world) with their personal data, is simply absurd.

    Poles know the details of the Lviv professors rounded and brutally murdered by the Germans in 1941. The Germans don’t know the names of their fellow Germans?? Absurd.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Lw%C3%B3w_professors

    As I already mentioned, the "persecutions" that the Germans "suffered" at the hand of Poles in pre-war Poland were as follows:


    1. They had to attend Polish schools.

    2. They had to pay “Polish” taxes.

    3. They had to speak Polish in public offices.

    Knowing the Germans, those were worse than any torture.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHAGSXBYl1g

    Replies: @John Wear, @Wielgus

    In August 1932, before the advent of the Third Reich, SA men broke into the home of Konrad Pietrzuch, a Communist sympathiser who was also a member of Germany’s Polish minority. They beat Pietrzuch to death. It was called the Potempa affair, as Pietrzuch lived in the hamlet of Potempa, in Upper Silesia, a few kilometres from the border with Poland at that time. A law mandating death for political murder had come into force shortly before they killed Pietrzuch, and the five were sentenced to death. The NSDAP went into overdrive, shouting that five “decent Germans” should not be punished with death for killing a Pole. Hitler declared his “unlimited loyalty” to the murderers. The agitation succeeded in having the death sentences turned into life imprisonment in September 1932. With the Nazis coming to power the following year, the SA men were released. Which suggested at the time that killing a Pole, albeit a German citizen, was not considered a crime at all in the Third Reich.

    • Replies: @tolkin
    @Wielgus


    Which suggested at the time that killing a Pole, albeit a German citizen, was not considered a crime at all in the Third Reich.
     
    Which is something our grotesque naonazis - Vigilante, Wear, Lid, Tulip, Yeager etc. - would wholeheartedly agree with TODAY, A.D. 2025!!
  • Revolutions are funny things. They start out almost imperceptible. The final straw itself may be as inconsequential as a single voice in the crowd whose words unleash a tidal wave that sweeps aside the seemingly intractable old order forever. Even as the cracks in the Eastern Bloc began to materialize in 1989, starting in June...
  • As he [Ceausescu] confidently approached the microphone from the balcony and began mechanically repeating the tired old slogans of communism, suddenly a voice broke through with a high pitched scream, followed by an increasing din. The discordant sounds of protest rendered Ceausescu speechless and confused. That second, when the false edifice of his rule was punctured and the impossibility of his position exposed, communist rule died in Romania.

    So somebody from the crowd talked back and that ended one of the most brutal dictatorships in the history of the world? Wouldn’t that person be simply picked up by the Romanian KGB and never seen again?

    What you wrote reads like a movie trailer script.

    I’ll tell you what ended his dictatorship. Ceausescu payed off Romania’s debt to the bankers and refused to take new loans – that is what ended his rule. He was publicly executed along with his wife as an example to all those that do not like taking loans. In other words, that was Regime Change (TM) and not Romanian people freeing themselves.

    You are welcome.

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    • Thanks: JM
    • Replies: @JPS
    @Anon001

    If the overthrow of Ceaucescu was a US backed coup then the US (or the Jews) already controlled Romania.

    I remember the news coverage at the time, his cult backers put up stiff resistance in a kind of last stand.

    Romania was a gangster state, the Ceaucescus were the fossilized figureheads. When Communism was going in Eastern Europe, there was no way the people in Romania were going to keep watching the insane North Korea type spectacles on TV, and cheering Ceaucescu speeches. It may be true the West had a hand in tipping him over - but it couldn't have taken all that much to do it.

    It wasn't like Cuba where Fidel Castro was beloved. Understand that Justin Trudeau really is Fidel Castro's son, then you understand that the Cold War was a kind of spectacle, especially in the 1980s, when they tried to terrorize the Western countries with nuclear war propaganda. Most leftists/liberals/freemasons/Jews (who controlled the West) very much wanted some form of Communism to survive in Eastern Europe, because they hate the people of those countries.

    It turns out that 44 years of Communist rule followed by 30 years of US subversion has been sufficient to fundamentally corrupt and undermine Eastern European peoples and their morale.

    , @JM
    @Anon001

    Thanks.

    What I've not seen, however, is any detailed account (personages, shadowy organisations and so on) of how the field operatives of International Finance pulled it off.

    This isn't the case for the other Colour Revolutions.

    Replies: @Anon001

    , @Annacath
    @Anon001

    "In other words, that was Regime Change (TM) and not Romanian people freeing themselves."


    Thanks! Unlike many others, you did not buy into the widely spread "truth" about the "liberation" of the Romanian people.

  • A former Israeli Defense Forces fitness trainer turned Penthouse Pet stands accused of orchestrating an audacious crime wave across Southern California’s most exclusive neighborhoods. Mia Ventura, whose real name is Adva Lavie, is a 27-year-old Israeli model, OnlyFans content creator, and former Penthouse Pet who has become the primary subject of a criminal investigation by...
  • A cut-price female Stavisky? Or a lower-rent Heidi Fleiss?

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
    @Wielgus

    everything about this archetypal Jewe$$ is a multi-layer'd fraud.....and

    "Ada Lavie" is certainly yettanother alias. Her real name, if one could peel off all the layers, is something like

    Shoshanna Finkelstein.

  • The other day, waiting for a connecting flight in Porto, Portugal, I decided to visit the old city center. Stopping for a coffee in a local cafe, I was surprised to be attended by personnel addressing me in American English, despite my placing the order in Portuguese, though with a Brazilian accent. As my ears...
  • @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    A 19th century German novelist featured German conflict with Poles in one of his novels, including with a devious Catholic priest named Gorka, although the novel is as much anti-Catholic as anything else.
     
    That reminds me of the way Poles are portrayed in Dostoevski's The Gambler. Definitely contemptible.

    Who does like their neighbors? For starters, they're foreigners. But one gets the Polish martyrdom brigade getting started here, and one feels it necessary to point out that Poles haven't exactly been good neighbors at all times themselves. Lithuanians, Russians, Ukrainians, Czechs, Germans, Jews -- they've all had more or less valid grounds for complaint.

    Now I'm reminded of how American black culture is similar to some ways to Southern white culture. Can we descry some similarity in the behavior of Ashkenazim in Poland to that of gentile Poles at various points in their history? Both seem to have a knack for making themselves hated by their victims.

    In any event, killing several thousand ethnic Germans as the Germans themselves were overrunning the country probably wasn't the best strategy in the world. One is reminded of how the retreating Greeks at the end of the Greco-Turkish war left Turkish corpses in every village they had to abandon.

    Might have had something to do with the destruction of Smyrna.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    I don’t think he is the novelist I was referring to earlier but Gustav Freytag (1816-1895) published Soll Und Haben (“Debit And Credit”) in 1855. The Gutenberg Project has online an English translation that came out a few years later. The German original seems to have been highly popular but the novel is nowadays almost forgotten. Probably because the villains of the piece are Jews, in particular a certain Veitel Itzig (Itzig is a contemptuous term in German for “Jew”), and chaotic Poles who riot and stage an uprising which at one point has the virtuous German characters under siege in a sort of manor.

    Polish Wikipedia in an article on it mentions it was never translated into Polish – perhaps not surprisingly.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    '...Polish Wikipedia in an article on it mentions it was never translated into Polish – perhaps not surprisingly.'
     
    It probably wouldn't be helpful. It'd be interesting to read, though. Trace the role of 'Poland' in German nationalist thought.
  • @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus

    It's interesting to consider that it may not have been just Hitler. Around a million ethnic Germans had given up and left Poland for Germany in the interwar era; most in the face of expropriation, open discrimination, etc.

    Obviously -- particularly as a formerly privileged group -- they would have been bitter. Domestic Germans would have been getting the low down on those nasty Poles for a good twenty years. Then too, figures such as Guderian had lost familial estates when Western Poland had been carved out of Prussia.

    This wouldn't have applied to anything like the same extent to any of Hitler's other conquests -- except possibly the Baltic states. My point is that Hitler wasn't some sort of perfect autocrat. Like everyone, he relied on at least partial consensus. If many Germans favored a harsh policy towards Poles in the first place, he would have been that much more inclined to engage in a truly draconian policy there. Who was there in Germany in 1939-45 who actually advocated a 'good neighbor' policy towards the Poles?

    Racial theory aside, it would seem to have been likely to have been quite unlike German attitudes toward the French, Belgians, Dutch, et al. Certainly there should continue to be a France -- just a suitably chastened and submissive one. Poland? Maybe there wasn't to be one at all.

    Replies: @Tiptoethrutulips, @Wielgus

    Who was there in Germany in 1939-45 who actually advocated a ‘good neighbor’ policy towards the Poles?

    Nobody – the German officers I referred to in an earlier post were pragmatically interested in building bridges to Poles, especially as the Red Army was getting closer, but “good neighbour” would be overdoing it. Incidentally the collaborator they addressed, Jan Emil Skiwski, managed to escape to Venezuela at war’s end and died there in 1956.

    Violent clashes over territory, especially in Silesia, at the end of WW1 didn’t do much for relations. There was a certain amount of animosity well before that. Frederick the Great picked up some Polish territory in the First Partition in 1772 and negatively compared the Poles he acquired to the Iroquois of North America. A 19th century German novelist featured German conflict with Poles in one of his novels, including with a devious Catholic priest named Gorka, although the novel is as much anti-Catholic as anything else.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    A 19th century German novelist featured German conflict with Poles in one of his novels, including with a devious Catholic priest named Gorka, although the novel is as much anti-Catholic as anything else.
     
    That reminds me of the way Poles are portrayed in Dostoevski's The Gambler. Definitely contemptible.

    Who does like their neighbors? For starters, they're foreigners. But one gets the Polish martyrdom brigade getting started here, and one feels it necessary to point out that Poles haven't exactly been good neighbors at all times themselves. Lithuanians, Russians, Ukrainians, Czechs, Germans, Jews -- they've all had more or less valid grounds for complaint.

    Now I'm reminded of how American black culture is similar to some ways to Southern white culture. Can we descry some similarity in the behavior of Ashkenazim in Poland to that of gentile Poles at various points in their history? Both seem to have a knack for making themselves hated by their victims.

    In any event, killing several thousand ethnic Germans as the Germans themselves were overrunning the country probably wasn't the best strategy in the world. One is reminded of how the retreating Greeks at the end of the Greco-Turkish war left Turkish corpses in every village they had to abandon.

    Might have had something to do with the destruction of Smyrna.

    Replies: @Wielgus

  • @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    'The German “New Order” was not trying to make friends in Poland, that’s for sure. For comparison, French fascists were encouraged under the German occupation of that country...'
     
    In a nutshell, Hitler wanted to be friends with the English, humiliate the French, and crush the Poles. It's all pretty interesting -- particularly if one considers Hitler's first encounter with the English. His regiment took 80% casualties in the Kindermord bei Ypern. That would have inculcated lasting respect.

    Ironically, it also implies a certain emotional realism to the young Adolf. He learned from the experience, as a man learns. Thereafter, at least one strand in his mind always yearned for friendship with those doughty Englandern.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Radical_Organization

    Noticeable that even this highly pro-German organisation was not tolerated after spring 1940. Probably because it still counted as a Polish organisation as opposed to a German one.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    '...In March 1940, NOR collaborated with German forces to orchestrate the Easter Pogrom, attacking Jewish homes and businesses in Warsaw. Members urged Poles to join the pogroms, align with NOR, and support Nazi efforts against the Soviet Union. They blamed the 1939 September campaign defeat on the Sanation party and endorsed ceding western territories to Germany...'
     
    It'd be interesting to hear what John Wear et al have to say about that. Pretty obviously, a Hitler with any interests at all in even the most submissive imaginable Poland would have at least tolerated the NOR.

    Instead, the Germans rounded up the leaders and shot them along with other possible sources of Polish nationalism.


    '...After the General Government’s civil administration assumed control and Hitler banned cooperation with Polish political groups in April 1940, NOR lost Nazi support. In May 1940, authorities arrested Świetlicki, imprisoning him in Pawiak. On June 20, 1940, Germans executed him, alongside NOR activists Wojciech Kwasieborski and Tadeusz Lipkowski, in the Palmiry massacre...'
     
    , @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus

    It's interesting to consider that it may not have been just Hitler. Around a million ethnic Germans had given up and left Poland for Germany in the interwar era; most in the face of expropriation, open discrimination, etc.

    Obviously -- particularly as a formerly privileged group -- they would have been bitter. Domestic Germans would have been getting the low down on those nasty Poles for a good twenty years. Then too, figures such as Guderian had lost familial estates when Western Poland had been carved out of Prussia.

    This wouldn't have applied to anything like the same extent to any of Hitler's other conquests -- except possibly the Baltic states. My point is that Hitler wasn't some sort of perfect autocrat. Like everyone, he relied on at least partial consensus. If many Germans favored a harsh policy towards Poles in the first place, he would have been that much more inclined to engage in a truly draconian policy there. Who was there in Germany in 1939-45 who actually advocated a 'good neighbor' policy towards the Poles?

    Racial theory aside, it would seem to have been likely to have been quite unlike German attitudes toward the French, Belgians, Dutch, et al. Certainly there should continue to be a France -- just a suitably chastened and submissive one. Poland? Maybe there wasn't to be one at all.

    Replies: @Tiptoethrutulips, @Wielgus

  • @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    The Tczew bridge wasn’t even blown up until several hours after heavy fighting had started. A German attempt to seize the bridge before this happened was thwarted.
     
    This seems to be the M.O. of the revisionists when it comes to Poland, and Germany's conquest thereof.

    They (or their sources) obscure the distinction between Poland's really quite reprehensible behavior dating back to 1918 and running up to 1 September 1939 and the outright atrocities that indeed did occur after 1 September. The aim would appear to be to exonerate Hitler of his obviously malevolent designs on the entirety of Poland.

    We get the absurd image of a peace-loving Germany being forced -- forced against her will -- to conquer all of Poland, then set about eliminating all possible sources of Polish nationalism and enslaving her population. If only Poland had just made some minor concessions over Danzig and the Corridor...

    In fact and as I just pointed out, had Hitler's agenda been at all moderate, he could have conducted himself as we did in the Mexican-American War: we took the bits we felt we could make a claim to and told the remainder to live with it. There was nothing preventing that.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    The German “New Order” was not trying to make friends in Poland, that’s for sure. For comparison, French fascists were encouraged under the German occupation of that country, though the Germans also fostered rivalries among the various groups. Far from being allowed to organise, Polish fascists featured on German kill lists.
    I’m not a fan of “alternative history” but the Germans could have reached out to the anti-Semitic and anti-Bolshevik attitudes of so many Poles. Instead they chose to crush the Poles underfoot – even Polish collaborators were required to adopt German identity. According to an account of Polish collaboration in an issue of The New York Review Of Books in 1995, some German army officers approached a Polish collaborator with them quite late in the war and asked what they could to improve relations with Poles. The collaborator told them it was just too damn late.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    'The German “New Order” was not trying to make friends in Poland, that’s for sure. For comparison, French fascists were encouraged under the German occupation of that country...'
     
    In a nutshell, Hitler wanted to be friends with the English, humiliate the French, and crush the Poles. It's all pretty interesting -- particularly if one considers Hitler's first encounter with the English. His regiment took 80% casualties in the Kindermord bei Ypern. That would have inculcated lasting respect.

    Ironically, it also implies a certain emotional realism to the young Adolf. He learned from the experience, as a man learns. Thereafter, at least one strand in his mind always yearned for friendship with those doughty Englandern.

    Replies: @Wielgus

  • @Colin Wright
    @John Wear


    '...The Poles blew up the Dirschau (Tczew) bridge across the Vistula River even though the eastern approach to the bridge was in German territory. The Poles also occupied a number of Danzig installations and engaged in fighting with the citizens of Danzig on the same day. Henderson reported that Hitler was not insisting on the total military defeat of Poland. Hitler was prepared to terminate hostilities if the Poles indicated that they were willing to negotiate a satisfactory settlement. (Source: Ibid., pp. 537, 577).
     
    You select evidence so as to make it appear that the fierce bad Poles forced war upon peace-loving Germany.

    I don't buy it. They were supposed to leave a bridge across the Vistula intact? They were to cede Danzig to full German control? They were to do as Czechoslovakia had done at Munich -- and hope they didn't shortly suffer the same fate as Czechoslovakia?

    Hitler had already divided up the Polish pie with Stalin. There wasn't going to be a happy solution for Poland. Whatever the shortcomings and delusions of the Polish Republic, they were quite right to realize their only option was to make a stand.

    Replies: @John Wear, @Wielgus

    The Tczew bridge wasn’t even blown up until several hours after heavy fighting had started. A German attempt to seize the bridge before this happened was thwarted.

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    The Tczew bridge wasn’t even blown up until several hours after heavy fighting had started. A German attempt to seize the bridge before this happened was thwarted.
     
    This seems to be the M.O. of the revisionists when it comes to Poland, and Germany's conquest thereof.

    They (or their sources) obscure the distinction between Poland's really quite reprehensible behavior dating back to 1918 and running up to 1 September 1939 and the outright atrocities that indeed did occur after 1 September. The aim would appear to be to exonerate Hitler of his obviously malevolent designs on the entirety of Poland.

    We get the absurd image of a peace-loving Germany being forced -- forced against her will -- to conquer all of Poland, then set about eliminating all possible sources of Polish nationalism and enslaving her population. If only Poland had just made some minor concessions over Danzig and the Corridor...

    In fact and as I just pointed out, had Hitler's agenda been at all moderate, he could have conducted himself as we did in the Mexican-American War: we took the bits we felt we could make a claim to and told the remainder to live with it. There was nothing preventing that.

    Replies: @Wielgus

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  • @Colin Wright
    @HdC


    '...Nowadays I read some dialogue on YT when I stumble upon an interesting article about those times. Some of the postings in response to the OP are by French, other’s by Poles. The difference between the two is absolutely astounding; with the French one can have a reasonable dialogue about the issue at hand whereas this is quite impossible with Polish posters.'
     
    You can get the French to go off the deep end; that veneer will crack if you hit hard enough. I've accomplished this. However, you have something of a point here.

    But it's really irrelevant to the original claim. There were not widespread killings of Germans in Poland prior to 1 September 1939.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    The Germans were more cruel and more oppressive in the East than in the West. Foreign workers in Germany from Western Europe were subject to varying qualities of treatment but were not expected to wear discriminatory badges. Poles and Ostvolk were. The former a yellow and purple badge with the letter P, the latter a badge with OST (“East”) on it. Poles were not even given a badge in the national colours white and red – the Nazis feared Polish nationalism.

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
    @Wielgus

    True. Largely due to the irrational and timeless hate and conceit of Germany and Germans toward Eurasian peoples [inferior "Mongol", demoted and mongrel to the German compensating psychic mechanism of "superiority shielding" to mask and suppress a genuine native feeling of constant inferiority, or not being "good enough". An outgrowth of self-loathing and externalization of hate and aggression. Even TO THIS DAY, too many Germans regard Eastern Europeans and beyond as being inferior, "not as human as us" [spoken by a German public figure on national television, and indirectly asserted countless times publicly.

    As Jung, Wagner, Heine, and others have noted, the Common Conscious of Germania carries a recessive virus of mental and spiritual sickness and pathology. I have written on this at length.

    , @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    'The Germans were more cruel and more oppressive in the East than in the West...'
     
    To say the least. He may be overlooking other factors, but Mazower, in Hitler's Empire, points out that Germany milked France far more effectively than she milked Poland. In fact, France was kind of pathetic. In the name of 'collaboration,' they allowed the Germans to siphon massive amounts of goods and labor from them -- all for nil cost. Of course Germany had to garrison the coast against Allied invasion, but they would have had to do that regardless. '6000' sticks in my mind as the total number of personnel Germany had to devote to actual security concerns in France.

    Of course, it all goes to show the shortcomings of ideology. In the East, the Germans felt compelled to pursue their racial agenda. In the West -- in France, in particular -- they just treated the cow in the way that would yield the most milk.

    Czechoslovakia may be another example. In the upshot, docile Czech workers kept churning out vital armaments for the Germans, while Slovakia fielded a passable division that participated in Fall Blau with some success. That all fell apart at the end -- but then, that was the end anyway.

  • The other day, waiting for a connecting flight in Porto, Portugal, I decided to visit the old city center. Stopping for a coffee in a local cafe, I was surprised to be attended by personnel addressing me in American English, despite my placing the order in Portuguese, though with a Brazilian accent. As my ears...
  • @Colin Wright
    @Patrick McNally


    '...It’s not a secret that during the war anyone who had reason to be an enemy of Hitler gave this the top priority. The divisions between Communists and Zionists only became important after the Wehrmacht had been defeated. That should go without saying.'
     
    You're mistaken. Obviously, you haven't read about the shenanigans the Zionists got up to during the war.

    It was all about number one, and they only contributed significant numbers of troops at the very end of the war, and then evidently only to gain a body of professionally trained soldiers.

    Others could worry about the Nazis; they were concerned with Israel.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @Patrick McNally

    The more radical Zionists didn’t even wait for WW2 to end before killing Lord Moyne, in November 1944. The Germans were the Germans, but these Zionists prioritized ending the British mandate.

  • @Wielgus
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oz6W5d5TdL8

    Clip from Little Red Apple from 1946, one of the first Polish films after war's end. Note the contemptuous reference to the Volksdeutsch...
    Also obvious bullet holes in the building behind, though I am not sure which city this was filmed in.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    In fact the film is Forbidden Songs, Little Red Apple is the title of the song of the street singer.

  • https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oz6W5d5TdL8

    Clip from Little Red Apple from 1946, one of the first Polish films after war’s end. Note the contemptuous reference to the Volksdeutsch
    Also obvious bullet holes in the building behind, though I am not sure which city this was filmed in.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
    @Wielgus

    In fact the film is Forbidden Songs, Little Red Apple is the title of the song of the street singer.

  • @Wielgus
    @Colin Wright

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlbu6SsjlSE&list=RDHlbu6SsjlSE&start_radio=1

    Perhaps not wet dream exactly but this clip from Pan Tadeusz encapsulates Polish nationalism well. Including its paradoxes - the most famous line in Polish literature is included. "Lithuania, my fatherland, you are like health." Note also the camera panning over the picture of Napoleon - it is 1812, and the Poles were the second-largest contingent in Napoleon's invasion of Russia.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Wrong YouTube. Elvis was cool but not Polish…

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    'Wrong YouTube. Elvis was cool but not Polish…'
     
    I was wondering about that. Looks like it could substantiate my argument about Americans stationed in Germany, though.
  • In his living room, studded with signed photographs of the rich and famous, Henk Visser, the arms collector and businessman, once told me about his wartime experience. Barely eighteen years old, he had joined the Dutch resistance, was captured by the Germans and sentenced to death. While he was awaiting his execution, his mother wrote...
  • I also remember what could be called ruling circles in the UK, including Thatcher, not regarding German reunification with unmixed delight. Germany had been an enemy but divided into two, even if the eastern part was on the other side, it was much less dangerous. German reunification in contrast was rather worrisome.
    Tarantino’s film has those Jewish revenge elements, though in one scene, a British lieutenant who is a German film buff, a British general and Winston Churchill touch on the Germans referring to Jewish-controlled Hollywood and nobody contradicts the idea…

  • If Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral election as expected, two of the world’s most iconic cities will have Muslim mayors. Sadiq — now Sir Sadiq — Khan has been mayor of London for eight years, and is serving his third term. With whites now a minority, Mr. Khan has locked down the Muslim...
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernesto_Nathan

    An Italian Jew born in England, and a keen Freemason, he became mayor of Rome before WW1. Unlikely to have been welcome to the Papacy…

  • A single fraudster exposed the fragility of modern France by showing that power serves itself before it serves justice. Serge Alexandre Stavisky was born on November 20, 1886, in Slobodka near Kiev in the Russian Empire. The son of Emmanuel Stavisky, a Russian Jewish immigrant, Alexandre received his formal education at the prestigious Lycée Condorcet...
  • @Pythas
    @JPS

    Puritans were mental fuck-tards. Ebenezer! Ichabod! What disgusting names. Phonetically they don't sound good...

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Hebrew. Ichabod literally means “no honour”.
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Ichabod

  • The other day, waiting for a connecting flight in Porto, Portugal, I decided to visit the old city center. Stopping for a coffee in a local cafe, I was surprised to be attended by personnel addressing me in American English, despite my placing the order in Portuguese, though with a Brazilian accent. As my ears...
  • @Colin Wright
    @tolkin


    'Therefore, as with previous German wet dreams, any attempt to implement this scenario could end in disaster, not only for Europe but for the world.'
     
    There wouldn't be any such thing as a Polish wet dream or a French wet dream, would there? Italian wet dream? Greek wet dream?

    No...I suppose their aspirations are reasonable and sane.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Perhaps not wet dream exactly but this clip from Pan Tadeusz encapsulates Polish nationalism well. Including its paradoxes – the most famous line in Polish literature is included. “Lithuania, my fatherland, you are like health.” Note also the camera panning over the picture of Napoleon – it is 1812, and the Poles were the second-largest contingent in Napoleon’s invasion of Russia.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
    @Wielgus

    Wrong YouTube. Elvis was cool but not Polish...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANhZ9Gizc8Y

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  • In his living room, studded with signed photographs of the rich and famous, Henk Visser, the arms collector and businessman, once told me about his wartime experience. Barely eighteen years old, he had joined the Dutch resistance, was captured by the Germans and sentenced to death. While he was awaiting his execution, his mother wrote...
  • @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    My take on this is that the “bad German” theme was to some extent kept under control during the Cold War. There was a desire not to antagonise the West Germans, and “good Germans” were also brought forward.
    This consideration was no longer necessary after the Wall came down and the Soviet Union collapsed.
     
    Another factor would be that the Cold War saw a lot of American draftees stationed in Germany -- and they often found Germans pretty congenial. It wasn't unheard of for American soldiers to bring home a German bride. Mildly kitschy German restaurants are a kind of 1960-65 artifact; there's a good one in Coos Bay.

    Post-1991, the evil German trope became a lot more plausible.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    I’ve mentioned this before, but you would hardly believe this was made less than 20 years after WW2 ended.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    I’ve mentioned this before, but you would hardly believe this was made less than 20 years after WW2 ended.
     
    Well, (1) we didn't suffer unduly from the Third Reich, (2) we had a lot of pretty congenial contact with the Germans in the Fifties and Sixties, and (3) one of our more attractive national characteristics is a willingness to let bygones be bygones. See also the aftermath of the American Civil War, and our treatment of the Japanese post-war.

    The aftermath of the American Civil War produced one great anecdote illustrating this. In 1913, the national passion for dioramas coupled with the fiftieth anniversary of Gettysburg produced a reenactment of Pickett's Charge -- using actual participants of the day.

    So the surviving Confederate seventy-somethings did their best to 'charge' up that long open slope to the stone wall. Awaiting them were the surviving Union seventy-somethings. When the 'Confederates' got to within about twenty yards, the Union reenactors couldn't stand it any more. They all threw down their muskets and ran out to embrace the fellow survivors of their youth.

    Group hug time.
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  • That year, he rented the Folies-Marigny Theater for the summer and put on a play that shut down after just two weeks. He never paid back the concessionaires who had put down deposits, and although he was caught, he avoided trial when World War I broke out.

    Sounds like a possible real-life inspiration for The Producers.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    That year, he rented the Folies-Marigny Theater for the summer and put on a play that shut down after just two weeks. He never paid back the concessionaires who had put down deposits, and although he was caught, he avoided trial when World War I broke out.

    Sounds like a possible real-life inspiration for The Producers.
     
    Maybe it was.
  • The late saint of the communist calendar, Rosa Luxemburg, often called her opponents ‘Shabbos-goyim,’ meaning servants of the Jews. A Shabbos-goy is a non-Jew who toadies to every wish and whim of the Jews, especially in politics, or a non-Jew who is heavily supportive of Israel, says the dictionary. They are a breed apart. One...
  • @Been_there_done_that
    @mulga mumblebrain


    "The lies began later..."
     
    An explanation deriving from documented observations, as in the case of the Odessa trade union house fire and the skirmishes that immediately preceded it, necessarily has to occur after the incident ("later"). This is in contrast to the usual methodology of Russian and Israeli propaganda, in which a fake narrative is already prepared before a planned event, so as to immediately shape the subsequent public perception. However, since the fire in Odessa happened unexpectedly, but much of what happened was captured on video due to the ubiquity of smart phones, the only recourse for Russia was to then saturate the media with their standard lies of victimhood, coupled with generic but transparently false accusations.

    Since it is too difficult or impossible to contradict the documented circumstances described in the BBC news report, you resort instead to your usual hysterical response of ridiculing a constructed straw-man, disguised as an unjustified ad hominem attack, so that any critical reader will understand the irrefutability of the fact that the pro-Russian hooligans provoked and initiated the attacks and some of their more violent or hot-headed cohorts, who lacked experience throwing Molotov Cocktails, wound up destroying themselves. Though not everyone would conclude that these agitators deserved this fate, the notion that they had been massacred by pro-Ukrainian activists emerges as completely ridiculous.

    Replies: @Commentator Mike

    Even the BBC reports that the Russophobes were throwing Molotov cocktails at the Trade Union building after ethnic Russians were forced to shelter in it, and there are pictures clearly showing that. the The Russophobes clearly started the fires on the ground floor by flinging the petrol bombs at the building.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27275383?ysclid=mhbys21zj1568466703

    They do state that there may have been a fire started accidentally on the third floor by someone throwing a Molotov cocktail from the inside at a window.

    You are not giving the full picture and just repeating the lies of Kiev propagandists.

    Now about Bucha, what is your take on that?

    • Agree: John Trout, Wielgus
    • Thanks: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
    @Commentator Mike


    "...a fire started accidentally on the third floor by someone throwing a Molotov cocktail from the inside at a window."
     
    Those who were throwing Molotov Cocktails outdoors did not cause the indoor fire that killed the pro-Russian hooligans, so that was not pertinent to the deaths that occurred, which was the issue I was addressing.

    Based on the reported information at the time, the Bucha massacre was the responsibility primarily of the private military contractors, reflecting their frustration at not having won the conflict and thinking they were exempt from accountability.

    Replies: @anonymous

  • In his living room, studded with signed photographs of the rich and famous, Henk Visser, the arms collector and businessman, once told me about his wartime experience. Barely eighteen years old, he had joined the Dutch resistance, was captured by the Germans and sentenced to death. While he was awaiting his execution, his mother wrote...
  • @Colin Wright
    @Judson Hammond


    One would think that the further historical events recede into the past, the likely result would be more objectivity. If you watch war movies made during WWII, they are obvious propaganda. As time passed, however, war movies became more objective. The Germans were not necessarily nice guys, but they weren’t portrayed as demons. They were simply the opponents. Then, I think, around the time of the Holocaust mini-series (1978), the portrayals reverted to demonization...
     
    It'd be interesting to examine that theory. In both Is Paris Burning? (1966) and A Bridge Too Far (1977) Germans are portrayed as reasonably sympathetic figures.

    Did that change subsequently? What Second World War movies at all have been made in which the Germans appear without reference to the Holocaust et al? Spielberg's films might be taken as atypical -- but he makes sure the Germans are bad guys who should be killed out of hand in Saving Private Ryan (1998). Then of course there's Tarantino's Inglourious Basterds (2009). I refused to see it, but apparently Jews get to kill Germans because Germans are bad. This would be yet another example of Tarantino's formula of politically correct pornography -- but that it's politically correct in the first place would support the theory.

    That it has become cool to shoot Germans out of hand may be something of a theme. It also occurs in Saving Private Ryan. The improbably Levantine-looking American Jewish soldier is allowed to 'avenge' himself by shooting German prisoners. What he could reasonably be avenging himself for isn't explained. Then later on, the moral is drawn that it was a mistake to take mercy on the unarmed German who pled for mercy. Of course, my suspicion is that Spielberg needed to make such behavior normal primarily in order to justify Israel's fondness for such behavior -- it's not necessarily indicative of any general change in attitude towards Nazi Germany.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    My take on this is that the “bad German” theme was to some extent kept under control during the Cold War. There was a desire not to antagonise the West Germans, and “good Germans” were also brought forward.
    This consideration was no longer necessary after the Wall came down and the Soviet Union collapsed.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    My take on this is that the “bad German” theme was to some extent kept under control during the Cold War. There was a desire not to antagonise the West Germans, and “good Germans” were also brought forward.
    This consideration was no longer necessary after the Wall came down and the Soviet Union collapsed.
     
    Another factor would be that the Cold War saw a lot of American draftees stationed in Germany -- and they often found Germans pretty congenial. It wasn't unheard of for American soldiers to bring home a German bride. Mildly kitschy German restaurants are a kind of 1960-65 artifact; there's a good one in Coos Bay.

    Post-1991, the evil German trope became a lot more plausible.

    Replies: @Wielgus

  • The other day, waiting for a connecting flight in Porto, Portugal, I decided to visit the old city center. Stopping for a coffee in a local cafe, I was surprised to be attended by personnel addressing me in American English, despite my placing the order in Portuguese, though with a Brazilian accent. As my ears...
  • @Colin Wright
    @Patrick McNally


    '...If Hitler had simply left Czechoslovakia alone and sought a similar agreement to Munich with Poland, then he could have gained the sympathies of people like Neville Chamberlain and Jerzy Potocki. With something similar to Munich worked over Danzig, there would have been no war over that.
     
    I don't think that was in the cards. Poles aren't Czechs -- and they were not about to go quietly into that good night.

    I might have been proven wrong, but I'll put my money on Poland -- rightly or wrongly -- remaining completely intransigent. Aside from everything else, the outcome of the Russo-Polish war of 1919 had given them a wildly inflated idea of their military potency. Also, the eventual absorption of the entirety of Bohemia and Moravia suggested that concessions merely led to further demands. Poland herself had indeed been down that road in the last decades of the Eighteenth Century.

    I can't see her surrendering the Corridor. National characteristics aside, it also may all have been an illustration of a theory I once read: wars only break out if there is a disagreement between the two parties as to their relative potency and willingness to fight. Czechoslovakia agrees with Germany that Germany can indeed overrun her; she gives way. Poland differs with Germany's opinion; she fights.

    Replies: @Patrick McNally, @Wielgus

    At a tangent somewhat, but this is a clip from Andrzej Wajda’s film of Pan Tadeusz which is generally regarded as the Polish national epic, written by Adam Mickiewicz. Polish cavalry, alongside Napoleon’s Guard, are preparing to invade Russia – it is 1812.

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  • @Almost Missouri
    @Wielgus

    Thanks.

    I was thinking as far back as the 18th century.

    Are there ethnic surveys of the British military today?

    Replies: @Wielgus

    18th and 19th century, Scots and Irish were definitely over-represented. In theory Catholic Irish were not supposed to be recruited in the 18th century into the British Army, but often the recruiting sergeants would overlook this, or else Catholic recruits would claim to be Protestant and the claim was accepted without further investigation. Being too strict on the religion question might have encouraged Catholic Irish males to go to France or Spain to join Irish regiments there, which was not desirable.
    Re ethnic surveys of the British military today, this is something I need to investigate, but recruits from places like Fiji have been accepted into the British Army, allegedly because indigenous British, and not necessarily just White soldiers but also Blacks or Asians, were not joining the British Army in sufficient numbers. As to the RAF and the Royal Navy, both requiring more technical knowledge in most cases than the Army, I also don’t know the ethnic composition.

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  • @Almost Missouri
    @epebble


    Our ‘minorities’ also died in the Vietnam war disproportionately
     
    This may not be quite true.

    From All That We Can Be by John Sibley Butler and Charles C. Moskos [black guy and Jewish guy], p. 8:

    For many years, critics of heavy black representation in the Army have claimed that Afro-Americans have been used by their country as cannon fodder, an argument that had incredible emotional resonance during the Vietnam War. We have conducted a thorough analysis of Vietnam casualty rates and can report definitively that this charge is untrue (see table 1.2). Black fatalities amounted to 12.1 percent of all Americans killed in Southeast Asia — a figure proportional to the number of blacks in the U.S. population at the time and slightly lower than the proportion of blacks in the Army at the close of the war.
     
    It is true that blacks contributed causalities in Vietnam more nearly to their participation rate than in any other major US conflicts, though. According to Moskos's and Butler's Table 1.2, the highest proportional black casualty contribution was in the 1983 Lebanon War (mainly Marines getting blown up in their barracks). The black casualty contribution there was 18.1% at a time when they were 19.1% of active duty military personnel.

    The US has the peculiarity of using its majority foundational population, i.e., whites, for fighting more than do other imperial powers. But I think that otherwise your larger point stands: imperial powers will expend their 'colonial' troops in preference to troops of their 'core' populations: Britain using Irish, Scottish, Canadian, Australian, Hessian, Indian, Gurkhas, etc. for the difficult jobs; France using the French Foreign Legion, Maghrebi Goumiers, Senegalese Tirailleurs, etc.; Ancient Romans using German legionaries and auxiliaries, etc. The US, which doesn't see itself as a colonial power, happens to be a bit of an oddball.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Wielgus

    Scots have tended to be recruited disproportionately into the British Army. I remember ads frequently being run on Scottish TV. Attitudes were not necessarily positive – the British Army was widely seen as a destination for people physically fit enough to pass a medical but unlikely to get a job anywhere else. This attitude developed after National Service ended c.1960.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Wielgus

    Thanks.

    I was thinking as far back as the 18th century.

    Are there ethnic surveys of the British military today?

    Replies: @Wielgus

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  • @Jameson
    @Wielgus

    LOL, one tiny difference, hope it isn't too subtle for you to appreciate. The people in the OT who God commanded the Israelites to kill, were evil pagan worshippers, some of whom sacrificed babies to their god, and that was thousands of years ago. But with Islam, the people Allah aka Satan commands them to kill, ARE YOU AND ME, TODAY!

    Christianity has been a major, profound, force for Good, hands down, no comparison with any other belief system or religion.

    Replies: @Kingsmeg, @Colin Wright, @Colin Wright, @Wielgus

    were evil pagan worshippers, some of whom sacrificed babies to their god, and that was thousands of years ago.

    So the OT says. Of course if I was the ideology chief for a bunch of predatory goat herders and some other tribe had something we wanted, I would probably write how evil they were to justify taking it from them. Which is essentially what the OT is, especially the more blood-curdling passages.

    But with Islam, the people Allah aka Satan commands them to kill, ARE YOU AND ME, TODAY!

    My neighbourhood is 40% Muslim. I feel terribly threatened by all the little Somali ladies in burqas… not. If it’s a matter of them being alien in some way, I also encounter Haredim who are just as different from me as the Somalis are. Even if they live mostly a bit further down the road…

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  • @Bwana Bob
    @Kevin Barrett

    You may be onto something. Duck Soup ends with a food fight after they capture the opposing leader and start throwing food at him, until Mrs. Teasdale starts singing and they switch to throwing food at her. The Jew Mel Brooks' signature movie Blazing Saddles also ends with a food fight. The Jew Stanley Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove also ends with a food fight. Maybe they plan to have Trump cut off the EBT cards and start a war over food. They probably think that would be a funny way to end Western Civilization.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Kubrick’s film did have such a scene but it did not make the final cut. I don’t know if it features in deleted scenes from the film, on DVD.

  • @lamont cranston
    Wasn't it interesting that when Jack & Mary Livingston Benny ate at a diner on the radio or TV that they always ordered ham & cheese sandwiches?

    Not quite kosher.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Wielgus

    George Orwell, I think in Down And Out In Paris And London, mentions going into an eatery in London, shortly after returning from France, and he sees a Jew there “guiltily wolfing bacon”. He doesn’t specify how he knew he was a Jew – possibly he had on Orthodox black clothes or Hasidic garb. Ludicrously this piece of Orwell’s writings has been accused of being anti-Semitism.

  • @Colin Wright
    @lamont cranston


    'Wasn’t it interesting that when Jack & Mary Livingston Benny ate at a diner on the radio or TV that they always ordered ham & cheese sandwiches?'
     
    Judaism was on its way out at a rate of knots among American Jews -- but then something went wrong.

    https://youtu.be/BlJHdVHRBbk?feature=shared

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Those were the days when many Jews were trying to be as American as possible. Also whoever ran the programme would have been aware Jews were only a small minority of the audience. While Benny and Livingstone did not hide that they were Jewish, they did not emphasize it either. Livingstone, born Sadya Marcowitz, took on a quite WASPy name.

    • Replies: @JunkyardDog
    @Wielgus

    Speaking of fake names, here’s a fellow on the Jimmy Dore Show explaining in a minute how every Israeli prime minister has had a fake name—trying to conceal his or her East European ancestry with a pseudo-Hebraic name. It’s quite funny, and then George Galloway comes on, pointing out that all the early ones were atheists who didn’t believe in the God they later claimed gave them Palestine.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed8eW1N4w88

    And this charade is what all but maybe five members of Congress will support with America’s last dollar and last drop of our soldiers’ blood? Or, as Nancy Pelosi put it, even if the Capitol falls to the ground?

    It’s clear at this point that all but a tiny handful in Congress don’t stand with anything resembling the ancient ME kingdom. What they do “stand with,” however, is a criminal state, for which these members should be indicted by the Int’l Criminal Court for capital murder characterized by abject cruelty resulting in widespread deaths for their unarguably necessary role enabling those East European Jews’ genocide in Gaza.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    , @Aonoymous
    @Wielgus


    Those were the days when many Jews were trying to be as American as possible.
     
    During the 1960s the Rabbinate became very concerned over this, and reasserted their authority. The change can be tracked in back issues of the Village Voice, where assimilation vs. takeover was, to an extent, debated.

    You have to remember the Golden Calf affair. The Rabbinate consider themselves to be God's Military Police. That the pre-1960s was a golden age is of as little concern for them as the material gains of looting are to the real Western Military Police.

    The weakness of the Rabbinate is the ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel, the Mizrahi. The Rabbinate can find nothing to criticize, but the Mizrahi are parasitic on the surrounding Ashkenazi, and are gradually removing them from Israel's government. The Mizrahi, parasites, can't live without the people they are destroying.

    In a broader context, this is yet another example of self organizing criticality, rather like the US corporate industrialists who acted like Marxist concepts of capitalists and had become so few in number and so overconfident that the New Deal coalition could displace them, even though New Deal policies apparently lengthened the Great Depression of the 1930s by ~7 years and arguably created WW II.

    Replies: @anonymous

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  • @Colin Wright
    @Colin Wright

    Christ.


    '...Germany was ready to potentially overrun Germany in six weeks...'
     
    Germany was ready to potentially overrun France in six weeks.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    That’s what I assumed you meant, but the four-minute window to edit statements is not really enough, I find.

  • @Tiptoethrutulips
    @Wielgus

    Ok, Noodle, here are few inquiries/observations for you, yourself, and they (W/CW/JJ) -


    Maximilian Maria Kolbe was a part-German, part-Pole, in Poland, who despite having early onset TB, still managed to travel extensively within East and South Asia (India) as a Catholic missionary. So, maybe he brought his weakened state somewhat upon himself? Prior to his humanitarian efforts, his German father had fought against the Bolsheviks/Soviets, and he was captured and then hanged by same.

    Like Hitler, Kolbe was opposed to the Freemasons, and apparently, at one time, he was suspicious of Organized Jewry:


    While in Rome, Kolbe witnessed vehement demonstrations by Freemasons against Pope Pius X and later Pope Benedict XV.

    In 1926, in the first issue of the monthly Knight of the Immaculate, Kolbe said he considered Freemasons "as an organized clique of fanatical Jews, who want to destroy the church." In a 1924 column, he cited the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as an "important proof" that "the founders of Zionism intended, in fact, the subjugation of the entire world", but that "not even all Jews know this.” In…[the] Militia of the Immaculate, published in an edition of a million in 1939, Kolbe wrote, Atheistic Communism seems to rage ever more wildly. Its origin can easily be located in that criminal mafia that calls itself Freemasonry, and the hand that is guiding all that toward a clear goal is international Zionism. Which should not be taken to mean that even among Jews one cannot find good people.

    In his periodicals, Kolbe published articles about topics such as a Zionist plot for world domination. [Wiki]
     

    One would think this man held some manner of sympathy/empathy/common cause with NS Germany, but something tells me his legacy has been co-opted for a sinister purpose, and whilst he certainly may have objected to the methods of the National Socialists, like every other “Shoah victim,” his personal circumstances and experiences have been exaggerated and/or twisted with outright falsehoods.

    makes me wonder what kind of state authority would feel so threatened by a Franciscan with TB
     
    Well, there was a war on, yes? He was a publisher and radio operator, yes? He would have certainly and legitimately piqued the interests of an occupying force.

    Wiki - After the Germans captured Niepokalanów, they arrested Kolbe on 19 September 1939. While in custody, Kolbe refused to sign the Deutsche Volksliste…The Germans released him on 8 December 1939.

    Upon his release, he continued work at his friary where he and other friars provided shelter to refugees from Greater Poland, including 2,000 Jews whom he hid from Nazi persecution in the Niepokalanów friary. Kolbe received permission to continue publishing religious works, though significantly reduced in scope. The monastery continued to act as a publishing house, issuing a number of publications considered anti-Nazi.

    Ok, so I wonder why Kolbe wasn’t eliminated in 1939? Perhaps the Germans eventually felt threatened because he was, in fact, undermining the German war effort? It seems to me he was given quarter and permitted to succor and administer to suffering civilians, but he clearly breached the terms of conduct likely imposed upon him on conditions for release.

    Back to Wiki: On 17 February 1941, the Gestapo shut down the monastery and arrested Kolbe along with four others. He was incarcerated in the Pawiak prison in Warsaw. On 28 May 1941, the Germans transferred Kolbe to the Auschwitz concentration camp…

    So, how was Kolbe eliminated?

    At the end of July 1941, a prisoner successfully escaped from Auschwitz. In reprisal, the deputy camp commander…ordered guards to pick ten men to be starved to death in an underground bunker…. When selected, Franciszek Gajowniczek, a Polish Catholic, cried out, "My wife! My children!" At that moment, Kolbe volunteered to take his place.

    Impatient to empty the bunker, the guards gave the four remaining prisoners lethal injections of carbolic acid. Kolbe is said to have raised his left arm and calmly waited for it. Maximilian Kolbe died on 14 August 1941.

    What a story! It’s up there with those Flying Apples, Human Soap, and Truckloads of Bayonetted/Dismembered Babies in terms of being True In The Mind Of A Jew…

    An underground bunker? Would this be the same subterranean bunker wherein Rudolf Höss kept his Jewish sex slave, who eventually became pregnant and was then ordered into a gas chamber, from which she somehow managed to survive/escape? Or, maybe it was the “bunker” in the basement of Block 11 wherein Sonderkommando Dario Gabbai helped to gas and kill tens of thousands of victims at once and in a timespan of 20-30 minutes, and who were then removed, lickety-split, with the hook end of a cane to empty the chamber for the next batch…

    BTW, Dario Gabbai was a “Jew” at Auschwitz who failed to describe a single detail of his Bar Mitzvah, although he was “sure I had one.” My point is - the discrepancies and fabrications are rife within the “Holocaust” narratives, and that’s precisely WHY inquiry is either illegal or considered hate speech.


    No, there were no underground bunkers at Auschwitz. The so-called "bunkers" at Auschwitz-Birkenau are two former farmhouses just outside the camp's perimeter. They are claimed to have been the first homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz, but this claim is based on rumors and post-war witness testimony, which has been debunked. [Internet AI not through Google]
     

    You say not exterminatory, all lies
     
    What, then, is the purpose of a hospital, library, soccer field, theatre, children’s ward, etc., in an extermination camp?

    Replies: @Wielgus

    What, then, is the purpose of a hospital, library, soccer field, theatre, children’s ward, etc., in an extermination camp?

    Depends who is using them. The guards, perhaps? Favoured prisoners, trusties, some of whom had a greater reputation for brutality than the SS, though ultimately under their orders? At the time of Kolbe’s murder, Auschwitz was relatively new as a facility and most of the inmates were Poles. It expanded significantly in the next few years, including the most exterminatory part, Birkenau. And took in a much more international clientele. Children’s ward? Offspring of guards, maybe? Or, if children of inmates, Mengele needed them for his experiments, perhaps?

    You want to know why they did not kill him in 1939? Well, they certainly killed others. They just did not get around to him then, or the fact that he was half-German by background made them hesitate. After all, the Third Reich never formulated a clear policy on half-Jews or quarter-Jews, because of arguments as to whether the German or the Jewish part mattered more. So a half-Jew might be serving in the German armed forces while their Jewish parent was being killed in Auschwitz. Perhaps initially they thought they could get Kolbe to register as a German.

    In addition, the Third Reich became more murderous after the start of Barbarossa and Kolbe was likely a victim of this.

    “He was a publisher and radio operator, yes?” Well, he would have needed a printing press to publish, not an easy item to hide, and ditto with radio broadcasting equipment. The occupation authority would have confiscated them because all such equipment needed to be licensed. But Imprisoning Kolbe in Pawiak and then Auschwitz was hardly inevitable. I repeat – the Third Reich regarded a Franciscan with TB and one functioning lung as a threat. You do not convince me that he was, unless the Third Reich hated Catholic Christianity, especially as exercised by Poles, which I suspect is the real reason Kolbe was in Auschwitz.

    “Something tells me his legacy has been co-opted for a sinister purpose” If that sinister purpose is making the Third Reich look bad, nobody forced the Third Reich to imprison a Polish Franciscan with TB and one functioning lung in Auschwitz. And then kill him. He lasted all of three months there. Soccer field, theatre, children’s ward or not. I am surprised you didn’t mention the swimming pool…

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    'In addition, the Third Reich became more murderous after the start of Barbarossa and Kolbe was likely a victim of this.'

     

    Definitely. Barbarossa signaled the conflict moving into total war. No more Mister Nice Guy.

    In any case, I've always thought Auschwitz made a lousy poster child for the Holocaust. First off, the death toll was grossly exaggerated at the start. Second, unlike, say, Treblinka, it had a dual function: industrial complex as well as extermination camp. In fact, prior to the deportation of the Jews, did it ever function primarily as an extermination camp?

    But the Holocaust orthodoxy is stuck with it. In fact, precisely because it wasn't solely an extermination camp, there's something to visit. You've read the book: now see the place!

    You can't visit Treblinka: it's just a field. Ditto for Babi Yar: a ravine.

    BUT you can visit Auschwitz. Too bad the dual purpose of the place gives Holocaust Deniers something to work with.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

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  • @Jameson
    @Wielgus

    Try learning the truth about Islam, forget about the Jews for two seconds. Israel is a canary in a coal mine for any sane infidel in the West.

    www.thereligionofpeace.com

    Muhammad, still in Arabia, when there were still Jews there, killed an entire tribe of Jews, about 800 men, cutting their heads off. And you may shrug your shoulders and smirk, and say who cares, big deal, but wait till you hear the rest of the story. After that, he and his pals, raped the women in front of the carnage, then took the women and children into slavery. Just so you know who are dealing with.

    Replies: @peterAUS, @Wielgus

    “Forget about the Jews for two seconds.” Why? The problem with your diatribe about Muhammad is that the Old Testament is full of genocidal stuff. Amalekites etc. I remember reading it at the age of nine in the KJV translation and being rather shocked by it. The Book of Judges, the Levite using the remains of his concubine to start a war, etc.
    Christian history won’t stand up to much scrutiny either, you know.

    • Replies: @Jameson
    @Wielgus

    LOL, one tiny difference, hope it isn't too subtle for you to appreciate. The people in the OT who God commanded the Israelites to kill, were evil pagan worshippers, some of whom sacrificed babies to their god, and that was thousands of years ago. But with Islam, the people Allah aka Satan commands them to kill, ARE YOU AND ME, TODAY!

    Christianity has been a major, profound, force for Good, hands down, no comparison with any other belief system or religion.

    Replies: @Kingsmeg, @Colin Wright, @Colin Wright, @Wielgus

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  • @Sick n' Tired
    An unbiased media site that reports stories in the "Who, What, Why, When, Where, and How" format, with just facts and no spin, political leaning, bias, or opinion is what is needed.

    It would probably be shut down or deplatformed quickly due to cries of racism, bigotry, insensitivity, and sexism for reporting the bare truth.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘An unbiased media site that reports stories in the “Who, What, Why, When, Where, and How” format, with just facts and no spin, political leaning, bias, or opinion is what is needed.’

    That wouldn’t help much. A lot of what the media does is to simply not report things. For example, hear about the two Israeli soldiers Hamas fighters killed on October 19th, ‘violating the cease fire’?

    Quite likely you did. Hear about the seventeen Palestinians Israel killed on the 10th? The thirty five she killed on the 11th? The seven she killed on the 12th? The three she killed on the 13th? The six she killed on the 14th? The eight she killed on the 15th? The four she killed on the 16th? The eleven she killed on the 17th?

    Perhaps not. It’s not just what you’re told; it’s that in combination with what you’re not told.

    • Agree: Wielgus
  • @Colin Wright
    @Rich


    Were Sayed Farook or Tashfeen Malik black when they murdered 14 people? What about Omar Mateen? 49 dead. And there was Sayfullo Saipov who killed 8 on the streets of NYC. None black, all Moslems. I can do this all day if you want.
     
    It'd actually be interesting to do the demographics on all mass killers -- numbers compared to total population. Deranged Christian whites? Muslims? Blacks? 'Transsexuals'? Hispanics? Asians? Democrats? Republicans? Native-born? Immigrants?

    Not conclusive -- but interesting.

    Replies: @Rich, @Wielgus, @Colin Wright

    Richard Ramirez was Hispanic, had a rotten home life and seems to have been inspired by an older cousin who served in the Vietnam War and was involved in atrocities.

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  • @Jameson
    @Wielgus

    You should go live with Muslims if you love them so much, leave the West alone. Weirdo.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Your comment makes me think Ron Unz should put an “Idiot” button as an option. “Troll” just does not cover it.
    If someone was putting up “Burn the Jews” stickers, you would presumably be upset. Incitement to hatred is incitement to hatred, after all. I am actually atheist but watching the Israelis at work in Gaza for two years, mostly killing Muslims, does not incline me to Islamophobia.

    • Replies: @Jameson
    @Wielgus

    Try learning the truth about Islam, forget about the Jews for two seconds. Israel is a canary in a coal mine for any sane infidel in the West.

    www.thereligionofpeace.com

    Muhammad, still in Arabia, when there were still Jews there, killed an entire tribe of Jews, about 800 men, cutting their heads off. And you may shrug your shoulders and smirk, and say who cares, big deal, but wait till you hear the rest of the story. After that, he and his pals, raped the women in front of the carnage, then took the women and children into slavery. Just so you know who are dealing with.

    Replies: @peterAUS, @Wielgus

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  • @Tiptoethrutulips
    @Wielgus


    documents… were falsified to conceal the exterminatory function of the camp
     
    Ok, Noodle = Colin Wright = Wielgus = John Johnson, the term “Auschwitz-Birkenau extermination camp” is a falsification, in and of itself, but what else is problematic with the site you linked? What the hell is this nonsense?

    Stop Denial
    Holocaust denial is not just a lie. It is a tool of ideological hatred, spread today primarily through social media. Its aim is the systematic erasure of the truth about the greatest crime in the history of Europe. Thanks to the new 'Stop Denial" tool, everyone can now easily take meaningful action to defend historical truth and the dignity of the victims of Auschwitz.
     

    International Educational Conference on Memory in the 21st Century
    Over 150 experts: researchers, museum professionals, teachers, representatives of memorial sites, and various organizations dealing with the history and memory of World War II, Auschwitz, the Holocaust, and other genocides, gathered from June 30 to July 2, 2025, to reflect on the state of memory and its role in the face of the challenges posed by the modern world.
     

    We, Survivors, know that the consequence of being an alien is active persecution. 80th anniversary of liberation of Auschwitz.
     
    In other words:

    Stop asking so many questions and just swallow the BS we keep shoving down your throats. So what if we say 6 million - 2.9 million = 6 million?! Who says wood cottages can’t be used as homicidal gas chambers? Weren’t the Germans capable of inhuman feats of engineering and defying the laws of reason, physics, thermodynamics, and chemistry? We will TELL YOU exactly what to say to the deniers, so there’s no need to educate yourself on the details.
     

    Everyone knows that the Jewish Memory is permanent, long, and vast, yet quite specific, in scope. The fact that neither Churchill, Eisenhower, de Gaulle, nor Patton had any recollection of homicidal gas chambers operating in Nazi extermination camps reflects the inferiority of the state of Gentile Memory. The fact that the allegations of homicidal gas chambers once operating in the camps “liberated” by western powers has been “forgotten” whilst those tales of gas chambers and death pits in the eastern camps, liberated by the Soviets, rage on and on and on is merely a feature of aforementioned Holocaust Denial, which is a feature of ideological hatred, which is just plain ol’ antisemitism, which has been around since the beginning of time for no reason whatsoever. So, if Shoah survivor, Irene Weiss, remembers that in the summer of 1944, every child brought to Auschwitz-Birkenau was killed within a half hour after arrival, and “There were no children in that place!” and if Shoah survivor, Paula Lebovics, remembers that she arrived to Auschwitz-Birkenau in the summer of 1944 as a 9 year old child and worked in the kitchen - well, there’s a Gentile lying about those two Jewish survivors and therefore we must form a Council of Memory to further bilk the remembrance and guilt-ridden donors and thereby face the challenges of Gentiles who refuse to swallow the BS we keep shoveling.
     

    It is a truth universally acknowledged, that every White Gentile in possession of a good nation, deserves to be inundated with all manner of savage and clever aliens until they are eliminated from this earth because long ago, and our Memory is quite long, THEY (although we dispute that White Gentiles were actually around anywhere when Humanity arrived according to the Torah/Bible) destroyed our Temple, and THEY protested against our sneaky business practices and peculiar mannerisms/sacrificial rituals and all that well-poisoning and central banking and war harvesting and media company gobbling and chronic assassinations and Palestinian genociding and BS shoveling.
     
    Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

    I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.

    Gradually I began to hate them.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Maximilian Kolbe was a Franciscan with TB and one functioning lung. Some here are trying to say he died of his pre-existing infirmities rather than being helped into everlasting life by the SS. He was detained in Pawiak Prison, Warsaw first of all, then later sent to Auschwitz. You say not exterminatory, all lies. But Kolbe’s survival chances were hardly great in a place like Pawiak. Sending him to Auschwitz? Good chance he would not come back alive from there. And he didn’t.
    Musing over the health condition of Maximilian Kolbe also makes me wonder what kind of state authority would feel so threatened by a Franciscan with TB and one functioning lung that even Pawiak was not considered a sufficient place of detention.

    • Replies: @Tiptoethrutulips
    @Wielgus

    Ok, Noodle, here are few inquiries/observations for you, yourself, and they (W/CW/JJ) -


    Maximilian Maria Kolbe was a part-German, part-Pole, in Poland, who despite having early onset TB, still managed to travel extensively within East and South Asia (India) as a Catholic missionary. So, maybe he brought his weakened state somewhat upon himself? Prior to his humanitarian efforts, his German father had fought against the Bolsheviks/Soviets, and he was captured and then hanged by same.

    Like Hitler, Kolbe was opposed to the Freemasons, and apparently, at one time, he was suspicious of Organized Jewry:


    While in Rome, Kolbe witnessed vehement demonstrations by Freemasons against Pope Pius X and later Pope Benedict XV.

    In 1926, in the first issue of the monthly Knight of the Immaculate, Kolbe said he considered Freemasons "as an organized clique of fanatical Jews, who want to destroy the church." In a 1924 column, he cited the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as an "important proof" that "the founders of Zionism intended, in fact, the subjugation of the entire world", but that "not even all Jews know this.” In…[the] Militia of the Immaculate, published in an edition of a million in 1939, Kolbe wrote, Atheistic Communism seems to rage ever more wildly. Its origin can easily be located in that criminal mafia that calls itself Freemasonry, and the hand that is guiding all that toward a clear goal is international Zionism. Which should not be taken to mean that even among Jews one cannot find good people.

    In his periodicals, Kolbe published articles about topics such as a Zionist plot for world domination. [Wiki]
     

    One would think this man held some manner of sympathy/empathy/common cause with NS Germany, but something tells me his legacy has been co-opted for a sinister purpose, and whilst he certainly may have objected to the methods of the National Socialists, like every other “Shoah victim,” his personal circumstances and experiences have been exaggerated and/or twisted with outright falsehoods.

    makes me wonder what kind of state authority would feel so threatened by a Franciscan with TB
     
    Well, there was a war on, yes? He was a publisher and radio operator, yes? He would have certainly and legitimately piqued the interests of an occupying force.

    Wiki - After the Germans captured Niepokalanów, they arrested Kolbe on 19 September 1939. While in custody, Kolbe refused to sign the Deutsche Volksliste…The Germans released him on 8 December 1939.

    Upon his release, he continued work at his friary where he and other friars provided shelter to refugees from Greater Poland, including 2,000 Jews whom he hid from Nazi persecution in the Niepokalanów friary. Kolbe received permission to continue publishing religious works, though significantly reduced in scope. The monastery continued to act as a publishing house, issuing a number of publications considered anti-Nazi.

    Ok, so I wonder why Kolbe wasn’t eliminated in 1939? Perhaps the Germans eventually felt threatened because he was, in fact, undermining the German war effort? It seems to me he was given quarter and permitted to succor and administer to suffering civilians, but he clearly breached the terms of conduct likely imposed upon him on conditions for release.

    Back to Wiki: On 17 February 1941, the Gestapo shut down the monastery and arrested Kolbe along with four others. He was incarcerated in the Pawiak prison in Warsaw. On 28 May 1941, the Germans transferred Kolbe to the Auschwitz concentration camp…

    So, how was Kolbe eliminated?

    At the end of July 1941, a prisoner successfully escaped from Auschwitz. In reprisal, the deputy camp commander…ordered guards to pick ten men to be starved to death in an underground bunker…. When selected, Franciszek Gajowniczek, a Polish Catholic, cried out, "My wife! My children!" At that moment, Kolbe volunteered to take his place.

    Impatient to empty the bunker, the guards gave the four remaining prisoners lethal injections of carbolic acid. Kolbe is said to have raised his left arm and calmly waited for it. Maximilian Kolbe died on 14 August 1941.

    What a story! It’s up there with those Flying Apples, Human Soap, and Truckloads of Bayonetted/Dismembered Babies in terms of being True In The Mind Of A Jew…

    An underground bunker? Would this be the same subterranean bunker wherein Rudolf Höss kept his Jewish sex slave, who eventually became pregnant and was then ordered into a gas chamber, from which she somehow managed to survive/escape? Or, maybe it was the “bunker” in the basement of Block 11 wherein Sonderkommando Dario Gabbai helped to gas and kill tens of thousands of victims at once and in a timespan of 20-30 minutes, and who were then removed, lickety-split, with the hook end of a cane to empty the chamber for the next batch…

    BTW, Dario Gabbai was a “Jew” at Auschwitz who failed to describe a single detail of his Bar Mitzvah, although he was “sure I had one.” My point is - the discrepancies and fabrications are rife within the “Holocaust” narratives, and that’s precisely WHY inquiry is either illegal or considered hate speech.


    No, there were no underground bunkers at Auschwitz. The so-called "bunkers" at Auschwitz-Birkenau are two former farmhouses just outside the camp's perimeter. They are claimed to have been the first homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz, but this claim is based on rumors and post-war witness testimony, which has been debunked. [Internet AI not through Google]
     

    You say not exterminatory, all lies
     
    What, then, is the purpose of a hospital, library, soccer field, theatre, children’s ward, etc., in an extermination camp?

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  • @Anne Lid
    @Wielgus

    https://archive.org/download/SterbeurkundeVonMaximilianKolbe/SterbeurkundeVonMaximilianKolbe.jpg
    It would be nice if you didn't tell me what I "want people to believe". Communists did commit atrocious crimes, just look what their grandchildren do now to Palestinians, maiming children with glee.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @Patrick McNally, @Annacath

    Don’t you want people to think the Third Reich was nice as pie to Catholic priests, even when they were those horrid Poles?

    Thank you for the document. It is from a Polish Auschwitz archive. The same website carries this article:
    https://www.auschwitz.org/historia/szpitale-obozowe/falszowanie-dokumentacji-szpitalnej/

    It is in Polish but notes, in relation to the death of Kolbe and others, that documents on the cause of death were falsified to conceal the exterminatory function of the camp.

    • Replies: @Tiptoethrutulips
    @Wielgus


    documents… were falsified to conceal the exterminatory function of the camp
     
    Ok, Noodle = Colin Wright = Wielgus = John Johnson, the term “Auschwitz-Birkenau extermination camp” is a falsification, in and of itself, but what else is problematic with the site you linked? What the hell is this nonsense?

    Stop Denial
    Holocaust denial is not just a lie. It is a tool of ideological hatred, spread today primarily through social media. Its aim is the systematic erasure of the truth about the greatest crime in the history of Europe. Thanks to the new 'Stop Denial" tool, everyone can now easily take meaningful action to defend historical truth and the dignity of the victims of Auschwitz.
     

    International Educational Conference on Memory in the 21st Century
    Over 150 experts: researchers, museum professionals, teachers, representatives of memorial sites, and various organizations dealing with the history and memory of World War II, Auschwitz, the Holocaust, and other genocides, gathered from June 30 to July 2, 2025, to reflect on the state of memory and its role in the face of the challenges posed by the modern world.
     

    We, Survivors, know that the consequence of being an alien is active persecution. 80th anniversary of liberation of Auschwitz.
     
    In other words:

    Stop asking so many questions and just swallow the BS we keep shoving down your throats. So what if we say 6 million - 2.9 million = 6 million?! Who says wood cottages can’t be used as homicidal gas chambers? Weren’t the Germans capable of inhuman feats of engineering and defying the laws of reason, physics, thermodynamics, and chemistry? We will TELL YOU exactly what to say to the deniers, so there’s no need to educate yourself on the details.
     

    Everyone knows that the Jewish Memory is permanent, long, and vast, yet quite specific, in scope. The fact that neither Churchill, Eisenhower, de Gaulle, nor Patton had any recollection of homicidal gas chambers operating in Nazi extermination camps reflects the inferiority of the state of Gentile Memory. The fact that the allegations of homicidal gas chambers once operating in the camps “liberated” by western powers has been “forgotten” whilst those tales of gas chambers and death pits in the eastern camps, liberated by the Soviets, rage on and on and on is merely a feature of aforementioned Holocaust Denial, which is a feature of ideological hatred, which is just plain ol’ antisemitism, which has been around since the beginning of time for no reason whatsoever. So, if Shoah survivor, Irene Weiss, remembers that in the summer of 1944, every child brought to Auschwitz-Birkenau was killed within a half hour after arrival, and “There were no children in that place!” and if Shoah survivor, Paula Lebovics, remembers that she arrived to Auschwitz-Birkenau in the summer of 1944 as a 9 year old child and worked in the kitchen - well, there’s a Gentile lying about those two Jewish survivors and therefore we must form a Council of Memory to further bilk the remembrance and guilt-ridden donors and thereby face the challenges of Gentiles who refuse to swallow the BS we keep shoveling.
     

    It is a truth universally acknowledged, that every White Gentile in possession of a good nation, deserves to be inundated with all manner of savage and clever aliens until they are eliminated from this earth because long ago, and our Memory is quite long, THEY (although we dispute that White Gentiles were actually around anywhere when Humanity arrived according to the Torah/Bible) destroyed our Temple, and THEY protested against our sneaky business practices and peculiar mannerisms/sacrificial rituals and all that well-poisoning and central banking and war harvesting and media company gobbling and chronic assassinations and Palestinian genociding and BS shoveling.
     
    Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

    I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.

    Gradually I began to hate them.

    Replies: @Wielgus

  • @Tolkin
    @Wielgus

    I would allow Frank another saving grace—he tolerated his wife's excessive fondness for precious furs. These furs, mostly the fruit of confiscations from the local Polish population, cost him nothing, so it wasn't a question of money. It was a question of taste.
    The exceptionally ugly, un-elegant, masculine-equine Magdalena looked grotesque in these extravagant furs. It's a pity she didn't send them to the fit and rather attractive Eva Braun. After all, if Eva's sister Gretl could be fond of the silverware stolen from the Poles (the Czartoryskis) Eva could possibly wear furs of similar origin.

    https://www.historynet.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/hans-frank-brigitte-frank-scaled-2048x1355.jpg

    Pictured above: Hans Frank, the "king" of Poland 1939-1945, and his "stylish Queen".


    PS. I didn't know much about Aleksander Alechin and Jefim Bogoljubow. Considering their background, it's no surprise they affiliated with Nazi Germany. That didn't end up well for them, however. The story if White Russians is a very tragic one, at least to me.

    Very interesting story! Thank you.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    The General Government was called the “Gangster Ground” by the Germans. They acted like gangsters, confiscating furs so the Poles could cope a little less well with their cold winters (and it has clearly been snowing where Mrs. Frank is).
    I read a Soviet article about Alekhine in the mid-1980s – it played down his attendance at Nazi-organised tournaments. An article Alekhine wrote during the war complaining of Jewish influence in the chess world has sometimes been claimed to be a forgery but I suspect it is genuine.
    The Hungarian Gedeon Barcza also took part in a major tournament organised by Frank in the General Government. Interestingly he seems not to have had major trouble about it after the war – being one of Hungary’s best chess players perhaps protected him from charges of fascist collaboration. He played Bobby Fischer and lost in 1962.

  • @Tolkin
    @JM

    The attitude toward Slavs—neighbors, after all—has always been a measure of a German's decency. Those with a low level of spiritual or intellectual development were hostile toward Slavs.

    Until the outbreak of war, Hitler had nothing against Slavs. Only when his plans for an alliance with Poland failed did he unleash numerous hordes of hateful Germans on the Poles to bark, bite, pillage, and murder.

    The most important of these was Hans Frank, the uncrowned "king" of a truncated, occupied Poland from 1939 to 1945.

    In an interview with the Völkischer Beobachter newspaper on February 6, 1940, Frank said:

    "If I wanted to hang up posters for every seven Poles shot, there wouldn't be enough forests in Poland to produce the paper for such posters.", "Poland will never dare to rise again!"

    Some trivia:
    While in custody, he converted to Catholicism. Whether sincerely or opportunistically is unknown. The American monk Sixtus O'Connor, Frank's spiritual guardian, was impressed by the testimony of his faith.

    "Christ, forgive me!" – Hans Frank's supposed last words before his execution in Nuremberg in 1946.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Wawel_castle.jpg/2880px-Wawel_castle.jpg

    Pictured above: The thousand-year-old castle of the Polish kings in Krakow, on Wawel Hill, which Hans Frank chose as his residence.

    https://d-art.ppstatic.pl/kadry/k/r/1/2a/12/5bf4098668359_o_xlarge.jpg

    Pictured above: Hans Frank in "his" royal castle on Wawel Hill.

    Replies: @Petermx, @nokangaroos, @Wielgus

    I will allow Frank one saving grace – he was a keen chess player. Goebbels apparently complained about him wasting precious resources on running a chess tournament in the General Government:

    https://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/frank.html

    Incidentally, I think one of the photos shows Hitler leaving his fortress imprisonment, accompanied by his lawyer, Frank. Hitler looks rather pudgy. He ate better than most Germans of the 1920s while in jail, but did not get much exercise.

    • Replies: @Tolkin
    @Wielgus

    I would allow Frank another saving grace—he tolerated his wife's excessive fondness for precious furs. These furs, mostly the fruit of confiscations from the local Polish population, cost him nothing, so it wasn't a question of money. It was a question of taste.
    The exceptionally ugly, un-elegant, masculine-equine Magdalena looked grotesque in these extravagant furs. It's a pity she didn't send them to the fit and rather attractive Eva Braun. After all, if Eva's sister Gretl could be fond of the silverware stolen from the Poles (the Czartoryskis) Eva could possibly wear furs of similar origin.

    https://www.historynet.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/hans-frank-brigitte-frank-scaled-2048x1355.jpg

    Pictured above: Hans Frank, the "king" of Poland 1939-1945, and his "stylish Queen".


    PS. I didn't know much about Aleksander Alechin and Jefim Bogoljubow. Considering their background, it's no surprise they affiliated with Nazi Germany. That didn't end up well for them, however. The story if White Russians is a very tragic one, at least to me.

    Very interesting story! Thank you.

    Replies: @Wielgus

  • @Anne Lid
    @Wielgus

    Have I stated he left Auschwitz? Then why and how would I show it? In fact he has a death certificate, cause of death: heart insufficiency brought on by his existing disease. Of course I am told the wily Nazis have made out a false document. I am inclined to think that the death certificate is the truth and the cartoonish story is bunkum.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @Annacath

    Let’s see the documentation, if it exists.
    The wily Nazis forged currency on a large scale, using concentration camp inmates. Forging documents would be child’s play for them, and killing inmates and then giving “natural” causes of death even more so, I understand from some accusation at Nuremberg that they were cynical enough to have people die in alphabetical order, according to the documentation. Kolbe was first held in Pawiak Prison, Warsaw, where people also died or were executed, but his chance of developing “heart insufficiency” was even greater in Auschwitz, a much deadlier place.
    Bottom line – you want people to believe Auschwitz was a holiday resort, or at least a normal place of confinement. If the Communists had killed Kolbe I doubt whether you would find it “cartoonish”. As I noted before, the scepticism would not be available in such a case.

    • Replies: @Anne Lid
    @Wielgus

    https://archive.org/download/SterbeurkundeVonMaximilianKolbe/SterbeurkundeVonMaximilianKolbe.jpg
    It would be nice if you didn't tell me what I "want people to believe". Communists did commit atrocious crimes, just look what their grandchildren do now to Palestinians, maiming children with glee.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @Patrick McNally, @Annacath

  • @Anne Lid
    @Wielgus

    An outlandish story invites scepticism. Besides, there is paperwork proving he was taken for a lung X-ray at the time he supposedly was kept without food and water (and surviving!). So you want to believe he was taken out of the cell where he was supposed to die of thirst and hunger to be treated, then plopped back. Very, very believable.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    That the Third Reich killed people, including Roman Catholic clergy, is not “outlandish” at all. If there is documentation of the type you mention, I would like to see it – since I can read German, as well as Russian and Polish, I can certainly subject it to scrutiny.
    Even if they did take him out of the bunker for an X-ray, this would merely point to some indecision about what to do with him – after all, Kolbe was half-German even by Nazi standards. The food and water aspect seems to make you sceptical, but prison hunger strikers have typically gone without food for two months or more before dying, and maybe a sympathetic trusty gave Kolbe and the others water when no-one was looking.
    If you can show Kolbe survived the summer of 1941 and was released from Auschwitz, I might be impressed, but I suspect you can’t.

    • Replies: @Anne Lid
    @Wielgus

    Have I stated he left Auschwitz? Then why and how would I show it? In fact he has a death certificate, cause of death: heart insufficiency brought on by his existing disease. Of course I am told the wily Nazis have made out a false document. I am inclined to think that the death certificate is the truth and the cartoonish story is bunkum.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @Annacath

  • @Anne Lid
    @Wielgus

    That carbolic acid injection is on par with the gas chambers and electrified floors. What is the proof? I think one man testified about it, and that's all. Kolbe had TBC and one working lung. As a Catholic it kills me that the Church disseminates this atrocity propaganda. God is Truth.

    Replies: @Tolkin, @Wielgus

    Kolbe had one working lung and was in poor health, correct. Which did not exclude him from heavy labour details in Auschwitz because the overseer, a certain “Bloody” Krott, was told to “get those parasites working”.
    If Kolbe had been killed by “Judeo-Bolsheviks” as opposed to by “the defenders of Western civilisation”, you would not be on deck with such scepticism, I suspect.

    • Replies: @Anne Lid
    @Wielgus

    An outlandish story invites scepticism. Besides, there is paperwork proving he was taken for a lung X-ray at the time he supposedly was kept without food and water (and surviving!). So you want to believe he was taken out of the cell where he was supposed to die of thirst and hunger to be treated, then plopped back. Very, very believable.

    Replies: @Wielgus

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  • @Colin Wright
    @Jameson


    'Wise people know that seeing women covered in trash bags in the West is like seeing a few small spots on your arm. The spots, it turns out, will end up being a fatal cancer that will kill you, no cure, death awaits...'
     
    You're mentally disturbed.

    Replies: @Wielgus, @Jameson

    He’s not alone. The anonymous sticker poster around my way has escalated to “BURN THE MUSLIMS”. I carry a roll of Palestinian stickers to cover over such religious “critiques” spilling over into murderous psychosis…

    • Replies: @Jameson
    @Wielgus

    You should go live with Muslims if you love them so much, leave the West alone. Weirdo.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    , @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    He’s not alone. The anonymous sticker poster around my way has escalated to “BURN THE MUSLIMS”. I carry a roll of Palestinian stickers to cover over such religious “critiques” spilling over into murderous psychosis…
     
    To be frank, in Airstrip One and in Western Europe, I could see the response. I wouldn't share it, but I understand it.

    But we don't have that many Muslims over here in God's Country. Islamophobes here just want to hate. Creatures like Jameson probably haven't seen anyone in a burka in the last month.

    I've lived in some cosmopolitan areas in the US over the course of my life: LA, the San Francisco Bay Area. I've also been in every US state but Maine. In that time I have seen no one in a burka, perhaps three individuals with the bottom of their face covered, and maybe five wearing some kind of distinctively Islamic scarf. One might as well worry about Parsis.