Yeah, I’ve read about this argument, that Christianity is a Jewish Golem, just as Islam.
“Da jews are omnipotent & invincible! Resistance and even the mere contemplation of it is pointless. Every single ‘jew wise Aryan Loyalist’ iz secretly working for & controlled by da jews (except for me of course)! The jews had literally everything planned out 50,000 years ago, including the inventions of hollywood & central banking!”
I am closer to this, but IMO, it is more reflective of reality IF Jews are apex sinners and leverage sins in the goyim, but that’s not omnipotence, it’s just evil. It looks like it to me, “every single time” is insane, I know.
The USA dollar is on life-support, only being worth about 0.22 cents compared to its worth in 1970. It’s use as the petrodollar is the only think keeping it afloat.
This is only relevant if a person held a dollar in 1970 and did nothing with it.
By definition, effectively not having control over your currency keeps your gov. largely fiscally sound, or you end up like Greece. So, ironically, China and Russia would have to enforce this.
The Unit, correctly described as “apolitical money”, is not a currency, but a unit of account used for settlement in trade and finance between participating countries.
What is even OPEC for?
Like many trolls, there is a grain of truth to this – it’s why I had to stop being “libertarian adjacent.”
That was never Paul’s position, it was in a federal republic, when there are legit divides, Washington delegates those issues to the states.
But in practice, libertarians have been steamrolled by liberals and social democrats, and so it is a moot point, like waving around the Constitution, or kvetching over ICE when it is not 1890 – you can’t have open immigration and a fraudulent welfare state, let alone a welfare state.
Regardless, the expected response to this article will likely be there is no nuance, the only solution is the “wood chipper.”
I get it, but there is good reason for the reaction: most pedophiles are predators on children from weak families, especially single moms. You mention this too, but it really comes down to bad faith actors, and many people rightly don’t care about nuance, the sexual deviancy levels are becoming a demonic parody, and the “first movers” going back the 1920’s are clear they STARTED IT, the “left.”
Just set the Age of Majority from 18 to 15 (and everything attached to it) – boom, that’s some iron-clad consistency!
15 year olds shouldn’t be allowed to vote. It is certainly in line with the moral sexual reality though, but it is detached from family procreation etc. Just changing the age is insufficient in the age of maximum wankers, swingers, and freaks, and nobody cares. (“It was ALWAYS that way!”) – It wasn’t, but it has been cyclical.
The strategy is obviously “suicide by cop,” and it is quite effective on a populous that is credulous, so they demand “compassion and rule of law” otherwise known as infinity nonwhite immigration. What % now actually believes the lies? I don’t know, since so many polls are BS.
“You want your allies to win and your enemies to lose…..
Isn’t that……
HYPOCRITICAL?”
*tips fedora*
Seriously, the clowning would be funnier if it was at least more subtle.
No shit, same for Progressives, it’s not that hard to understand. The use of allied law enforcement is good and necessary for obvious reasons. You’re doing a modified lolbert meme.
His advice:
We talk about being lenient with the enemy and taking the opponent seriously; these are tactical principles. But strategically, I think the guiding principle is still the old man's: two words: despise.Especially with figures like Trump, we must neither underestimate nor overestimate them. Strategically, overestimating our opponents will stifle our strategic thinking, making it difficult for us to break with convention and creatively devise game strategies.In reality, while Trump may have been a powerful figure for a time, his essence is not that of a true politician or strategist, but rather a political opportunist. His mindset is that of a daring business-man, and his strategies and methods are those of a reality TV show host.我们讲料敌从宽,讲重视对手,这是战术原则,而在战略上,我看,还是老人家的指导思想,两个字:藐视。特别对于特朗普之流,我们既不能低估,更不可高估。在战略上,过度高估对手,会束缚我们的战略思维,让我们很难打破常规,创造性地思考博弈对策。其实,特朗普虽然是一时之枭雄,但是,其本质,不是真正的政治家、战略家,而是一个政治投机客,其思维,是一个大胆的商人,而其策略和手法,就是一个真人秀栏目策划人。
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As for the two-faced Trump, I think our basic strategy can be summed up in six words: watch him act, wait for his end!
对于口蜜腹剑的老特,我认为,我们的基本战略就六个字:看他作,等他完!
I don’t believe it. The fact the writer used shitlib buzzwords about Trump is suspect.
The “blockade” had bite before the cold war ended. It’s just not true after that. It’s a law in name only. Countries like Brazil, Russia, China, Mexico don’t care, they support Cuba. It’s a poor excuse and a common trope among “progressives.”
“Sanctuary Cities” are still common law, and it is a huge problem. Why hasn’t Trump even dropped the funding hammer on those places? I don’t know, besides Congressional excuses.
Tell me how you really feel? I thought they would get vaporized and crushed into nothingness, a reset of the heavens, a forgotten empire!!
“Decolonization” in South Africa was a disaster, that’s a weak analogy. Palestine is more like Kurdistan IMO. Remove the Ashkenazi Jew factor, and it would have been like Kurdistan, a “limited state.”
Know divide and conquer when you see it, and you appear to know that. You most likely have to take the Russian approach, more than the Iranian approach, but both are similar, which is limited sovereignty for “minorities,” but the threat of treason hanging over their heads.
Since Xi, I doubt it, when Soros chimped out on him. Who knows, you’re right about the history.
Offensive realism is not neo-conservatism.
This is true, it’s not black or white. Logically, targets of divide and conquer are….divided. This applies to countries like Ukraine as well as Iran. But many people will NOT point out the inconsistencies. Just as Russia has a realistic influence claim, especially in the Russian Speaking part of Ukraine, the US does not have to tolerate Venezuelan military cooperation with Russia or China, or even plans for one.
Then Iran gets poisoned by Israel drafting US military, yeah, like gravity.
Probably more like the Dominican Republic, or Costa Rica. Cuba has been a cringey “cause celebre” on the college left for years.
Libertarians are fundamentally secular classical liberals. China does not think this way, same for Russia. Yes, most are offensive realists.
The US was realist for most of its history. It’s hard to pin this on Trump since he doesn’t do the same “rules based order” liberal moralizing going back to Wilson.
ICE was conducting lawful and very necessary raid to get illegal aliens out. Crazed woman inserts herself , performs action that ICE guy saw as a threat and gets brains splattered all over the car. Other than the poor dog being there, what is the problem?
Chis Hedges turns this into the "slippery slope" scenario where, if the ICE agent gets away with it, the next thing you know you'll be rounded up and sent to the concentration camps when the Democrats are back in power. I'm not buying it. We voted for illegals to be deported, anyone interfering with their arrests needs to be punished severely enough - prison, heavy fines, their automobiles confiscated - that it stops others from joining in.
ICE was conducting lawful and very necessary raid to get illegal aliens out. Crazed woman inserts herself , performs action that ICE guy saw as a threat and gets brains splattered all over the car.
Israel, because Israel imposes open border policies on many “allies,” the same people who point out every officer is trained by the IDF to slaughter babies, it means the US can’t enforce immigration law. Yeah, it’s divide and conquer nonsense.
You’re right, but you can tell a lot of the comment section is a lumpenprole garbage dump.
The legalities are secondary, especially since the US, it looks to me, is in a cold civil war. Imagine state police going into favelas, not quite as bad, but getting there.
Why do the owners and editors want the mass media to lie to us so much?
Self and group interest tend to win over moralizing.
In this case, enforcing immigration law is when you commit a nazi.
Sure, Turks are a Jewish Golem.
American interventionism? Allow me to correct you—please. Obviously, to me, few people truly understand that Jews were a people before May 14, 1948—without a country. Before that Israel did not exist. Before May, 1948 the land the Jews were stealing was known as British Palestine.
The Ottoman Empire conquered and incorporated the region of Palestine into its dominion in 1516, following its victory over the Mamluk Sultanate at the Battle of Marj Dabiq.
It is said, by the Jews, they have a very ancient history in the land. The Jewish claim to indigeneity is based on a three-thousand—year-old continuous history and the status of the land since ancient times and the focus of Jewish life and yearning.
Until May 14, 1948 Jews were dispersed. And had been for 3000 years.
Zionist/Jews wanted a homeland and even considered other places than Palestine to establish one.
Zionist/Jews were persuaded that they could encourage American intervention in Europe in WWI by propagandizing in the U.S., the necessity of doing so, as “fighting for democracy.” Germany was winning the war! Lord Balfour, in a letter to Rothschild, promised to give Palestine to the Zionist/Jews in return for American intervention.
So, practically, Americans were fighting against the Germans, but in reality Americans were in Germany to ensure that the British won the war—so that the promise to Rothschild by Lord Balfour could be fulfilled. In essence then, for all intents and purposes, it became a Jewish war, though given it was a war promulgated by bankers, it was in fact a Jewish war from the beginning in Europe in 1914.
Surely the present wars are bankers wars! Bankers have the most to gain and the gains for them, are long run gains. Observably their plant and equipment never runs down—does it? Long after tanks, and battleships and aeroplanes are rusting away in useless heaps and the dead are buried—the debts incurred by governments to the Zionist/Bankers are still being paid back dozens of years into the future.
Few know that Great Britain was still paying off its WW II debts to the United States and Canada over 50 years later, with the final payment made on December 29, 2006! In other words the ordinary English taxpayer was paying for a war promulgated by the Zionist/Jewish bankers.
By the time of the final payment in 2006, the initial loans, $3.75 billion (plus a $586 million Lend-Lease loan) to the U.S. and a Canadian loan of $1.19 billion were repaid, the U.K. had paid a total of around $7.5 billion to the U.S. and $2 billion to Canada—accounting for principal plus interest.
The world would be a better place without Zionist/Jewish intervention in WW I and WW II and almost every war you could name for thousands of years. Nations come and go but the Zionist/Jewish bankers thrive by sucking the blood from the citizens for many decades after the end of hostilities.
Israel is proving to be a mill-stone around the necks of the Jews! The Zionist/Jews wanted it, now they have it—“real good!” But make no mistake the citizens of the United States are paying to keep Israel alive—whether they want to or not.
All the blather about God promising the Hebrews, a single bloody thing, is simply blather and bull-shit promulgated to justify murder, slaughter, and thievery. My father was wont to say, “…there is one thing worse than a thief?”
Answering his own question he say, “…a bloody liar.” He was with the British in Palestine during the Arab uprising 1937-1939. He ought to know!
Of course Jews, for the most part do not know their own history, except some specious interpretation of their ancient myths. Jews are nothing but a cult rampant. They are nothing but psychopathic trouble-makers with an extensive and exclusive vocabulary they never stop using to betray the Goyim.
The average American Goy, tragically, identifies with the Zionist/Jew. Why?
Fell for it again Trump chump detected. You gelded guerillas are all ecstatic about your valiant fed goons rampaging against the shitlibs. You'll put your dresses back on to wail about the communist police state when those same shitlibs take the stage back, and they will - to use those same goons against you gutless pussies.
Spiteful mystery meat mutant detected.
LMAO! You don't read much do you. Probably because of that characteristically low Republicunt attention span.
is only the beginning of the great global European assertion of sovereignty. Prepare yourself.
You are aware Jews are apex sinners and leverage sins in the goy, right? One does not simply “remove the jews.”
Betrayal is not some far off thing, yeah, it’s probable. Despite your chimping, it is true the same people orchestrating the open borders policy are the same people setting off useful idiots to “suicide by cop” over legit law enforcement action. Remember, in this case to protect the DNC Somali patronage system.
But Hedges piece is a self parody, nazis are a jewish strawman.
It’s pretty simple, IMO the UK was more than willing to torch Continental Europe, since Pan European Unity through a revived Holy Roman Empire was unacceptable. Hitler was a useful idiot as much as Stalin etc.
Oh no, “aggressor?” don’t threaten me with a good time!
The deal breaker with FDR WAS THAT the Soviet Union won WWII, because, IMO, the national socialists were the other end of the hegelian nonsense schtick.
The concept of divide and conquer comes up so much. But I concur, when you see that type of divide and conquer trick, not playing the game is a legit option.
Open borders and infinity immigration are two sides of the same colonial coin.
You’re just spewing Marxist tropes, people
WHO DON’T BELIEVE IN PROPERTY RIGHTS.
Ahistorical, It’s just incomplete. Islam follows the Jewish political messianic template and has also been a problem for Christendom nearly since the beginning. You’re right about “the war on terror,” but Islam wasn’t just a group of pot smoking Jains until 2001.
Thanks Palmm,not only that, but I'm convinced he's ideologically fanatical about the Great Replacement, and that it can't happen fast enough. Even as he doesn't put it quite like that, because as you've noticed, he's careful to couch his anti-white fervor in oblique, obfuscatory language, in between banal insults. he *says* he approves of the deportations. "There’s nothing wrong with it at all, but there’s also a proper way to go about doing it," and forgive me, but I suspect that the 'proper' way to go about it, from muh muh's perspective, is to not do it at all. Now, as you can see, I did just infer what I consider to be muh muh's deeply held convictions, but as he'll never say so out loud, how else can we crystalize his motivating ethos, other than by ciphering from his relentless agenda-driven comments? But I enjoy our conversations, even as he relentlessly and shamelessly sets up straw men, ["You insinuate that she was boiling with rage"], and then knocks them down, thinking he's accomplished some victory, or other, but then I just point out his antics, and so it goes over and over and over...My hope is that for those who're not ideologically blinkered, they'll consider the meat and potatoes of the debate, and make up their own minds, whether or not 8 billion people are all de-facto American citizens, with the right to squat here, and get their gibs, and entitled to all the Constitutional protections that American citizens have - (which is effectively what these stupendously idiotic protesters are all insisting). For those challenged people, who judge every issue based on their feelings, then these debates are not for them. Their "minds" are already made up. But for those who think, (which I suspect TUR has more than its share), perhaps there's merit to our conversations.Nevertheless, I consider it fun, for the most part. {fwiw, I also generally agree with muh muh vis-a-vis the plight of the Palestinians, and a few other issues.}Replies: @Palmm, @muh muh
a “lawyer” who banks on the fantasy that the US is not in a cold civil war.
he *says* he approves of the deportations. “There’s nothing wrong with it at all, but there’s also a proper way to go about doing it,” and forgive me, but I suspect that the ‘proper’ way to go about it, from muh muh’s perspective, is to not do it at all.
It’s the troll’s legalistic nonsense, and a disregard to how judges interpret codes.
What you are describing, is “illegal in name only,” but when you add up all the statues and common law, it’s legal.
I wouldn’t engage, you are talking to a “lawyer” who banks on the fantasy that the US is not in a cold civil war.
Oh, we’re in a cold civil war, alright.
And people like you only make it hotter.
Won’t matter. MAGA is finished.
in the original video, you clearly see the agent walk up to her door, and shout 'get the fuck out', or something like that. You don't hear anyone shouting or saying 'drive away'. Nothing like that. So I considered the idea that she was driving away because that's what they were telling her to do, as idiotic, and figured it didn't merit the time I'm taking now, to respond to it.
[concession that Good received conflicting orders duly noted]
Okay, I went hunting for you. All you'd have to do is search for 'ice agent struck by good's vehicle ross', which is all I did. You're welcome.
Link to it, already.
No, I didn't, (you're such a hypocrite). What I insinuate is that she and her cunt pal, harbor a deep and abiding hostility towards ICE agents, as 'racists'. Haven't you seen the videos of the nutjobs out there screeching 'Nazis!' at these guys and gals?
You insinuate that she was boiling with rage
Not specifically, in general.
FWIW, you have zero evidence that Good was protecting any of the people in your linked tweet, and even if she was, you have no evidence that she knew anything about their offenses.
LOL - literally
You need to think that Good was as angry as you because if you don’t, you realize you’re standing all alone in your rage.
And I believe you! I really, really do. Absolutely, positively, without any doubt or question!Sure, why not?
would you, muh muh, be just as vehement in demanding prosecution for the protester, having committed murder?
pot - kettle Yes, they're going to do everything in their bag of tricks to demonize ICE, and the deportations, as Brown Shirts on the verge of gas chambers. We all expected that, and we expected the hysterical antics of the armies of woke. Who, I don't mind saying, are making themselves a laughing stock.'All 8 billion people on the planet have more right to be here than the ICE racists!'Is what these asshats believe, and the media and assorted bad actors are egging them on, because just like with Europe, and I bring up Ireland, they all want all white nations to roll over into oblivion. And, (sorry to say, muh muh), but I just don't think that's going to happen, at the end of the day.Replies: @Palmm, @muh muh
Lord, you make yourself look ridiculous with your irremediable habit of insinuation.
This is all moot because the Trump admin has to deal with “common law” going back to at least 1976 and the city of LA choosing not to cooperate with the feds on enforcing immigration law.
OP is chimping pedantically on the shoulders of this retarded legal precedent.
There is just no reason to engage.
Right, it’s just a revival of Mercantilism and the “American School.” It’s also cutting the patronage away from foreigners and illegals, and telling the industrialists,
“We’ll kiss your ass if you just stop it with the fixation on cheap shitty foreign labor. Otherwise we’ll kick your ass.”
Real government spending has increased 5x.
As DOGE was finding out, this is because government essentially has to subsidize people who are underemployed or unemployed. Reagan and his people expanded the government while shipping productive jobs overseas.
This was first noticed by hard-headed Teamsters who saw the Nixon Administration funneling investment dollars to Japan (Dick was worried about Nippon reneging on American loans) while at the same time creating the incredibly expensive DEA.
The Drug Enforcement Administration, in turn, inspired the Education Lobby to lobby more intensely for its own department, which it duly got. Even in the early 1970a it was obvious the American economy was never going to create enough work for the university graduates flooding the system since the 1950s. We had a choice between subsidizing eggheads, even dumb ones, or putting up with an economy even worse than the one we already have.
You are correct in noting that the tax rates of fifty years ago were geared to a different sort of productive economy. Much of that one is either gone or so insanely specialized that history is only a partial guide. But if the US could subsidize foreign nations for decades, our billionaires who reaped the benefits of it can subsidize an industrial resurgence.
I concur, but all you are doing is Jewish straw men.
I KNOW what you mean, but the rhetoric is a straw man.
Anyone with a care for Pan European Unity would accept no less than the Holy Roman Empire(NOT Rome, NOT “Judaism for wimps”) and the awareness of the Slavic, Germanic, and Celtic peoples necessity for Christian unity, or face death.
Socialism and Capitalism ARE dualistic, materialist nonsense. I know a lot of fascist philosophers know that. But most people are shades of secular liberal.
there's another video out there, from the front, that shows the guy got struck by her SUVIn fact, it shows no such thing.
it (your linked video) shows that she struck the guy
Duh, man
In truth, you have no evidence what Good was thinking, yet you need to believe she was simmering with hostility at Ross
She had been obstructing these guys doing their jobs, like some woke cunt. I would have called her much worse, even as I don't think he should have shot her, based on what I saw. Still, in none of these contexts would I call it murder, but more likely manslaughter, unless he genuinely feared for his safety, which he may have, having been dragged and seriously injured previously.
That’s right. ‘Fucking bitch’, he calls her, no more a few seconds after murdering her.
yes, exactly, that is how it seems to me, and that if the situation were reversed, and an ICE officer had hit a protester with his vehicle, and the protester shot and killed the ICE officer, I expect that all the people frothing their outrage, would simply reverse their sympathies.
Buuut… You’ve admitted it yourself: ‘This issue has more to do with people’s perspectives and feelings, than with actual law.’
I see it utterly differently, and the exact opposite. I see myself as being objective and non-partisan. Which is not how I see you being.
You see, Rurik… That’s what happens when you cede your sense of fair play to political partisanship.
[concession that Good received conflicting orders duly noted]
there’s another video out there, from the front, that shows the guy got struck by her SUV
Link to it, already. You guys keep talking about that video, but none of you has the common courtesy to provide a link.
In truth, you have no evidence what Good was thinking, yet you need to believe she was simmering with hostility at Ross
Duh, man
lol
And you have the temerity to call me disingenuous?
I realize you’re getting on in your years, Rurik, but if you’re going to engage in intelligent discussion, at least have the decency to try focusing on the subject at hand and not fly sideways on one of your innuendo-laden tangents.
Once again, the subject at hand concerns what was going through Good’s mind just before she was murdered. You insinuate that she was boiling with rage when, in fact, Ross’s own cellphone footage shows exactly the opposite, revealing Ross as the unhinged, angry cop he is.
FWIW, you have zero evidence that Good was protecting any of the people in your linked tweet, and even if she was, you have no evidence that she knew anything about their offenses.
Incidentally…
5% of People Detained By ICE Have Violent Convictions, 73% No Convictions
https://www.cato.org/blog/5-ice-detainees-have-violent-convictions-73-no-convictions
She had been obstructing these guys doing their jobs, like some woke cunt.
Oooh, look at the fangs come out on you! ‘Woke cunt’. Wow, I bet that makes you feel like a real man, doesn’t it?
This is how I know that what you attribute to Good is purely psychological projection. The anger here is entirely your own. You need to think that Good was as angry as you because if you don’t, you realize you’re standing all alone in your rage.
As for ‘obstructing’, that’s questionable, as I said to george previously. Take a look at this video and ask yourself if these guys really have a good understanding of the law:
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/2009628909525160386
Talk about angry.
in the original video, you clearly see the agent walk up to her door, and shout 'get the fuck out', or something like that. You don't hear anyone shouting or saying 'drive away'. Nothing like that. So I considered the idea that she was driving away because that's what they were telling her to do, as idiotic, and figured it didn't merit the time I'm taking now, to respond to it.
[concession that Good received conflicting orders duly noted]
Okay, I went hunting for you. All you'd have to do is search for 'ice agent struck by good's vehicle ross', which is all I did. You're welcome.
Link to it, already.
No, I didn't, (you're such a hypocrite). What I insinuate is that she and her cunt pal, harbor a deep and abiding hostility towards ICE agents, as 'racists'. Haven't you seen the videos of the nutjobs out there screeching 'Nazis!' at these guys and gals?
You insinuate that she was boiling with rage
Not specifically, in general.
FWIW, you have zero evidence that Good was protecting any of the people in your linked tweet, and even if she was, you have no evidence that she knew anything about their offenses.
LOL - literally
You need to think that Good was as angry as you because if you don’t, you realize you’re standing all alone in your rage.
And I believe you! I really, really do. Absolutely, positively, without any doubt or question!Sure, why not?
would you, muh muh, be just as vehement in demanding prosecution for the protester, having committed murder?
pot - kettle Yes, they're going to do everything in their bag of tricks to demonize ICE, and the deportations, as Brown Shirts on the verge of gas chambers. We all expected that, and we expected the hysterical antics of the armies of woke. Who, I don't mind saying, are making themselves a laughing stock.'All 8 billion people on the planet have more right to be here than the ICE racists!'Is what these asshats believe, and the media and assorted bad actors are egging them on, because just like with Europe, and I bring up Ireland, they all want all white nations to roll over into oblivion. And, (sorry to say, muh muh), but I just don't think that's going to happen, at the end of the day.Replies: @Palmm, @muh muh
Lord, you make yourself look ridiculous with your irremediable habit of insinuation.
there's another video out there, from the front, that shows the guy got struck by her SUVIn fact, it shows no such thing.
it (your linked video) shows that she struck the guy
Duh, man
In truth, you have no evidence what Good was thinking, yet you need to believe she was simmering with hostility at Ross
She had been obstructing these guys doing their jobs, like some woke cunt. I would have called her much worse, even as I don't think he should have shot her, based on what I saw. Still, in none of these contexts would I call it murder, but more likely manslaughter, unless he genuinely feared for his safety, which he may have, having been dragged and seriously injured previously.
That’s right. ‘Fucking bitch’, he calls her, no more a few seconds after murdering her.
yes, exactly, that is how it seems to me, and that if the situation were reversed, and an ICE officer had hit a protester with his vehicle, and the protester shot and killed the ICE officer, I expect that all the people frothing their outrage, would simply reverse their sympathies.
Buuut… You’ve admitted it yourself: ‘This issue has more to do with people’s perspectives and feelings, than with actual law.’
I see it utterly differently, and the exact opposite. I see myself as being objective and non-partisan. Which is not how I see you being.
You see, Rurik… That’s what happens when you cede your sense of fair play to political partisanship.
I wouldn’t engage, you are talking to a “lawyer” who banks on the fantasy that the US is not in a cold civil war.
Oh, we're in a cold civil war, alright.And people like you only make it hotter.Won't matter. MAGA is finished.
I wouldn’t engage, you are talking to a “lawyer” who banks on the fantasy that the US is not in a cold civil war.
Thanks Palmm,not only that, but I'm convinced he's ideologically fanatical about the Great Replacement, and that it can't happen fast enough. Even as he doesn't put it quite like that, because as you've noticed, he's careful to couch his anti-white fervor in oblique, obfuscatory language, in between banal insults. he *says* he approves of the deportations. "There’s nothing wrong with it at all, but there’s also a proper way to go about doing it," and forgive me, but I suspect that the 'proper' way to go about it, from muh muh's perspective, is to not do it at all. Now, as you can see, I did just infer what I consider to be muh muh's deeply held convictions, but as he'll never say so out loud, how else can we crystalize his motivating ethos, other than by ciphering from his relentless agenda-driven comments? But I enjoy our conversations, even as he relentlessly and shamelessly sets up straw men, ["You insinuate that she was boiling with rage"], and then knocks them down, thinking he's accomplished some victory, or other, but then I just point out his antics, and so it goes over and over and over...My hope is that for those who're not ideologically blinkered, they'll consider the meat and potatoes of the debate, and make up their own minds, whether or not 8 billion people are all de-facto American citizens, with the right to squat here, and get their gibs, and entitled to all the Constitutional protections that American citizens have - (which is effectively what these stupendously idiotic protesters are all insisting). For those challenged people, who judge every issue based on their feelings, then these debates are not for them. Their "minds" are already made up. But for those who think, (which I suspect TUR has more than its share), perhaps there's merit to our conversations.Nevertheless, I consider it fun, for the most part. {fwiw, I also generally agree with muh muh vis-a-vis the plight of the Palestinians, and a few other issues.}Replies: @Palmm, @muh muh
a “lawyer” who banks on the fantasy that the US is not in a cold civil war.
Don't know much about Q, I'm just going by what I see and know to make sense of the world. In my opinion the CIA in cooperation with others such as the Secret Service, Italian and Jewish/ZIOs mafias took over the country after offing Kennedy. Every president since has been controlled with the possible exception of Trump but that remains to be seen. The only president mildly opposed to the CIA was taken out by the Watergate Op. Wasn't it Schumer who said on MSN-DC TV that you can't cross the deepstate as they have 6 ways to Sunday to screw you over? Before the CIA it was Hoover's FBI that found dirt on everyone and ran DC. CIA ousted them and now creates dirt such as the Epstein Op, a logical progression in mafia warfare. All these groups - CIA, FBI, MIC, Mossad, ZIOs, neo-Cons, "the jews", et. al. are not monolithic entities but have secret, corrupt factions within that are vying for power. We live under a system of warring mafias and Trump is ending that, he's taking down the CIA that runs drugs/guns/humans and the British bankers laundering the money.
Right, this is the “Q tard” argument. Generally speaking, the argument is that the “Clowns” of the CIA are their own self serving entity. Yeah, probably, why not. It makes some sense when “the US progressives” have some relations with “left wing populist” Latin American leaders.
I agree here. When communism supposedly "fell" in the USSR they kept all the same laws, same bureaucrats/managers, renamed the country and a few departments like the KGB and continued on as before. I don't recall the "truth and reconciliation" tribunals to throw the bastards in jail or hang them.
But it is not longer the Cold War, and many former soviet aligned countries dropped their “secular ideology” and brought back more traditional Catholic symbols and laws.
Maybe, I just use the term ironically, because the general editorial position here is skeptical to cynical on Trump. You’re still more right than wrong IMO. Israel is like the weather or gravity, it’s always going to influence the policy no matter what.
Yes, I can see your point but that's why we need to follow the DHS code and others like it. The DHS code is pretty good for what it is. Not perfect but good enough for most applications and situations. There's a perversity about all this ICE violence that troubles me. Heritage Americans and their political opposites are unfortunately in the habit of operating at the very edges of the law, seemingly enjoying the Wild Wild West aspect of it all. Nothing gets the blood running, and eyeballs to screens, and keyboards tap-tap-tapping than an unlawful shooting. It's quite perverse some of the arguments used to justify them. To my mind, any departure from the center of the codes of conduct should be scrutinized, not just the shoot-em-ups at the edges that give the gunbois their jollies.Replies: @Palmm
“Restraint” is a loaded term
Your characterization is a straw man and a common “provocation strategy.” Heritage Americans aren’t the ones being cartel goons, for example. Every migrant who got past the border paid cartels at least 5k.
The fact cameras determined foul play on the driver’s part, and many who share your views don’t blink an eye, is frankly incredible.
Generally speaking, The DNC is much better at patronage. All you are doing is playing right into their plan, because they exploit “rugged individualism.”
If we remove the words "at all" from this question then in general terms, no. The law is the law, and lawbreakers and enforcers have a responsibility to act on it or suffer the lawful penalty. However, the use of unreasonable force by an armed law enforcer in any situation must be contained within a very tight framework because it's a license to kill endorsed by the government yet on the basis of an inherently flawed human being's potentially flawed judgment. Who knows what the precise state of mind the officer is in? Who knows his precise feelings about immigrants, at the time of a specific incident, or ever? Circumstances and behaviors can be grossly misinterpreted and misunderstood, especially in the heat of the moment. Ending a life is final. A mistake can't be corrected when the person is dead. Obviously a lawbreaker with a potentially deadly weapon (such as a car in this instance) can also do this, but law enforcement under license by the government must be held by restraint, and the highest possible standard of restraint. That's what the DHS rules are about. . We can't have a posse of mentally unhinged Trumpists with badges running around shooting Biden's mistakes. A lot more can be said about this from both moral and policy perspectives but a brief response is hopefully sufficient to clarify.Replies: @Palmm
Is there anything wrong at all, with rounding up, and deporting people who are here illegally?
Obviously a lawbreaker with a potentially deadly weapon (such as a car in this instance) can also do this, but law enforcement under license by the government must be held by restraint, and the highest possible standard of restraint.
“Restraint” is a loaded term in this case. The Feds are on Latin American levels of cooperation. It’s not quite as bad as Brazilian state police going into favelas, but it is Feds going into hostile territory against the ruling state gov. You want to go to German levels of restraint?
https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/542658774/Turkish-wojaks-stabbing-german-police
Yes, I can see your point but that's why we need to follow the DHS code and others like it. The DHS code is pretty good for what it is. Not perfect but good enough for most applications and situations. There's a perversity about all this ICE violence that troubles me. Heritage Americans and their political opposites are unfortunately in the habit of operating at the very edges of the law, seemingly enjoying the Wild Wild West aspect of it all. Nothing gets the blood running, and eyeballs to screens, and keyboards tap-tap-tapping than an unlawful shooting. It's quite perverse some of the arguments used to justify them. To my mind, any departure from the center of the codes of conduct should be scrutinized, not just the shoot-em-ups at the edges that give the gunbois their jollies.Replies: @Palmm
“Restraint” is a loaded term
I don’t know about OP, but they believe immigration is like a hide and seek, and once an alien gets past the immigration officer at a port of entry, it’s like getting to “home base,” and they can’t be tagged.
The “POC” stuff is ahistorical, though: no one has a monopoly on victimhood, and it is largely grafted jewish narcissism. Roma (gypsies) are another group with this mentality afaik.
I think you’re talking about “Americanism” in general, right? A self imposed uniqueness to separate from Europe. Yeah, it’s largely made up, and the Founding Fathers would disagree culturally.
IMO, the Supreme Court is taking up the space from a Congress that has abdicated its role.
States mean less, and for the past 100 years, it’s Executive Branch dominance.
It’s just not true, the real tax rates, real government spending, were much lower in the 1950s.
In fact, I would agree with you “nominally” to go back to 1950’s relevant economic policy. It’s just the characterization is a shitlib one I believed for years, and yes Reagan was part of it.
https://usgovernmentspending.com/spending_chart_1900_2029USd_27s2li011lcny_F0t
Real total gov. per capita spending in year 2017 constant dollars.
1953 $5,129
2026 $26,681
Real government spending has increased 5x.
2026 is understated due to year 2017 constant dollars.
As DOGE was finding out, this is because government essentially has to subsidize people who are underemployed or unemployed. Reagan and his people expanded the government while shipping productive jobs overseas.This was first noticed by hard-headed Teamsters who saw the Nixon Administration funneling investment dollars to Japan (Dick was worried about Nippon reneging on American loans) while at the same time creating the incredibly expensive DEA.The Drug Enforcement Administration, in turn, inspired the Education Lobby to lobby more intensely for its own department, which it duly got. Even in the early 1970a it was obvious the American economy was never going to create enough work for the university graduates flooding the system since the 1950s. We had a choice between subsidizing eggheads, even dumb ones, or putting up with an economy even worse than the one we already have.You are correct in noting that the tax rates of fifty years ago were geared to a different sort of productive economy. Much of that one is either gone or so insanely specialized that history is only a partial guide. But if the US could subsidize foreign nations for decades, our billionaires who reaped the benefits of it can subsidize an industrial resurgence.
Real government spending has increased 5x.
Infinity immigration and colonialism are inextricably linked. It’s just weird to see how “Conservatism” and “Progressivism” are mutilated by their current “managers.”
Kudos to people calling out the bald faced lie about this ICE enforcement case. Why stick your head out to be so wrong? Why recycle 1960’s “non-aligned movement” tropes about the “Global South?” The Marxist explanation does not cut it. There are very rich people paying patronage to voting masses, Somalians in this case.
It’s a top-down coalition, it’s simply not the “oligarchy.” It’s a coalition of very high net worth people and “the poor” on income transfer, or otherwise politically connected.
AFAIK, the “checks and balances” are also vertical. There’s Federal and States, and each state is ultimately unitary – counties and cities can be taken over by the state government.
Checks and balances are not dead, IMO, they are just messy and sometimes violent. You can’t sit on the shoulders of Wilson and FDR, and go “oopsie!”
Right, this is the “Q tard” argument.
Generally speaking, the argument is that the “Clowns” of the CIA are their own self serving entity. Yeah, probably, why not. It makes some sense when “the US progressives” have some relations with “left wing populist” Latin American leaders.
But it is not longer the Cold War, and many former soviet aligned countries dropped their “secular ideology” and brought back more traditional Catholic symbols and laws.
Don't know much about Q, I'm just going by what I see and know to make sense of the world. In my opinion the CIA in cooperation with others such as the Secret Service, Italian and Jewish/ZIOs mafias took over the country after offing Kennedy. Every president since has been controlled with the possible exception of Trump but that remains to be seen. The only president mildly opposed to the CIA was taken out by the Watergate Op. Wasn't it Schumer who said on MSN-DC TV that you can't cross the deepstate as they have 6 ways to Sunday to screw you over? Before the CIA it was Hoover's FBI that found dirt on everyone and ran DC. CIA ousted them and now creates dirt such as the Epstein Op, a logical progression in mafia warfare. All these groups - CIA, FBI, MIC, Mossad, ZIOs, neo-Cons, "the jews", et. al. are not monolithic entities but have secret, corrupt factions within that are vying for power. We live under a system of warring mafias and Trump is ending that, he's taking down the CIA that runs drugs/guns/humans and the British bankers laundering the money.
Right, this is the “Q tard” argument. Generally speaking, the argument is that the “Clowns” of the CIA are their own self serving entity. Yeah, probably, why not. It makes some sense when “the US progressives” have some relations with “left wing populist” Latin American leaders.
I agree here. When communism supposedly "fell" in the USSR they kept all the same laws, same bureaucrats/managers, renamed the country and a few departments like the KGB and continued on as before. I don't recall the "truth and reconciliation" tribunals to throw the bastards in jail or hang them.
But it is not longer the Cold War, and many former soviet aligned countries dropped their “secular ideology” and brought back more traditional Catholic symbols and laws.
I want to clarify that Hitler looks like a useful idiot at best. Apparently nobody on both sides of Germany wanted a return of the Holy Roman Empire, and the fact Hitler never revived those Holy Roman symbols have always been suspect to me. There was no need to create this “new” recycled symbol every one knows is the (((worst symbol ever in all of human history))) etc.
Would the UK torch Continental Europe for this? probably.
Perhaps the better definition to avoid confusion is All men are of equal worth.
“Worth” may not quite capture it, that’s why I like “soul.” There are tons of people who are not convinced of the “soul,” and it is easy for many people to equate worth with ability.
Shall the strong bully the weak?
Shall the smart take advantage of the dull?
Shall the stupid assume he is smart and do himself no end of harm?
Shall the child assume he knows more than his parents and refuse their guidance?I think Confucius offered us his viewpoint 2500 years ago, already.
Pride is a deadly sin!
It was a mutual “agreement,” though. This is a shitlib trope about “muh military spending” or Heritage America creating the enemy. All this stuff was orchestrated from places like the UK, Austria, and Switzerland. Many people will say “muh Jews.” True, to an extent, but there is more than that.
Marxism is not taboo to this day. Your framing is nearly ahistorical.
Good point. My reply to the original post was to rebut the idea that only “Whites” with European ancestors can become “American” by obtaining US citizenship. Since the Native Americans living in North America as well as the New Mexicans, Californios, Tejanos, etc. living in Nueva España are not “Whites”, they wouldn’t have been able to acquire US citizenship based on the 1790 US Naturalization Act which was passed a few years after the original thirteen colonies of British America fought the War of Independence and became the United States of America. Here’s a map of North America at the time circa 1780:
There is one hell of a difference between beting a citizen of the USA and being an American.
If those natives of North America are not eligible for US citizenship based on 1790 US Naturalization Act, then how on Earth are they going to continue living in the land now called “America” without becoming extinct?
Probably by ethnic set asides, there’s already a framework in the Tribal Reservations. There would also have to be a tiered system. There is almost no enforcement of loyalty either, the vows naturalized citizens make is largely a “yes, gimme paper.”
But the argument is mostly correct, just by the historical fact that the US had trouble assimilating Irish, Italians, and many Germans – the logic of “Whites only” still holds. If you expect Irish to change the Anglo Character of the US (they did), no serious person can lie to your face about a Hindu from Tamil Nadu being as American as Alexander Hamilton.
Now that is the most excellent question. IMHO.In my view, your ancient Athenians warned us about it more than 2000 years ago. They knew that Democracy exerts a pressure on politicians to turn to more and more demagoguery. They knew that contrary to populist mantras, men are NOT created equal. Some men are more able to select their rulers than others. For democracy to work, those empowered to vote, must be capable of critical thought, discipline to study the issues at hand, and the wisdom to vote for the good of society as a whole, rather than for selfish gain.That is why your Founding Fathers formulated the original eligible electorate in the USA to be a fraction of the population, those they judged were capable and invested to vote for the good of society as a whole. Only land-owning men were given the heavy responsibility of the vote. Over time, demagogic pressures caused the right to vote to be spread wider and wider into the general population. Today any fool over 18 with a heartbeat is given the vote. The wider population does not care about suffering short term pain for long term gain. They will elect politicians that will whisper sweet things into their ears, rather than telling them "We have gone off course, we will need to suffer hardship for the next 10 years before our children will see a better day". Such a politician will never gain office with today's voting electorate.Replies: @xcd, @Palmm
It begs the question, why hasn’t the US always been this way?
Pretty much, yeah. Except, AFAIK, “we are all born equal” is still true to the philosophers at the time, and the implication was equality is a lie, because we are ONLY BORN/CREATED “equal.” Everything after that moment is blatantly unequal, from our genetics to our environment, to each person’s behavior. It had more to do with the soul.
Third worldism is a Jewish Golem, so it would be predictable people like Weiss would have to do damage control at places like Columbia.
About the owners of the NYT, yes, any reporting that shows Hamas in a favorable light, or characterizes Israel as even slightly “bad” is intolerable to nationalist jews. Israel is “immaculate” to these people.
From social experience, a lot of German Jews (Ochs, Sulzberg etc), in addition to many orthodox, were always skeptical about Israel, from the left (marxists) and right (orthodox). Doesn’t make them any better when it comes to the European Nations, for the most part.
They’re very strategic and realistic, I’m willing to accept they were unable to act, given their former president crashed in Azeri airspace. Azerbaijan is Turkey for all practical purposes.
Jews are excellent at divide and conquer. They’ve managed to fuse Palestinian nationalism with (((third worldism))) to make it unacceptable to many European nationalists.
Islam is largely a Jewish golem, like Turkey, and large swaths of Sunni Islam (remember the fall of Syria).
But it doesn’t negate or justify Jewish behavior.
Is this not the greatest flaw of the Democratic systems?
Why would any politician build a highspeed rail network if such an undertaking will take 2 decades? The cost will be upfront and the benefits only come much later.
It begs the question, why hasn’t the US always been this way?
Now that is the most excellent question. IMHO.In my view, your ancient Athenians warned us about it more than 2000 years ago. They knew that Democracy exerts a pressure on politicians to turn to more and more demagoguery. They knew that contrary to populist mantras, men are NOT created equal. Some men are more able to select their rulers than others. For democracy to work, those empowered to vote, must be capable of critical thought, discipline to study the issues at hand, and the wisdom to vote for the good of society as a whole, rather than for selfish gain.That is why your Founding Fathers formulated the original eligible electorate in the USA to be a fraction of the population, those they judged were capable and invested to vote for the good of society as a whole. Only land-owning men were given the heavy responsibility of the vote. Over time, demagogic pressures caused the right to vote to be spread wider and wider into the general population. Today any fool over 18 with a heartbeat is given the vote. The wider population does not care about suffering short term pain for long term gain. They will elect politicians that will whisper sweet things into their ears, rather than telling them "We have gone off course, we will need to suffer hardship for the next 10 years before our children will see a better day". Such a politician will never gain office with today's voting electorate.Replies: @xcd, @Palmm
It begs the question, why hasn’t the US always been this way?
The only way to make military spending most, is to restrict it to “discretionary federal spending.” That is a fiction, since total government spending is what matters. The chart I referenced also doesn’t hide gross gov debt. “Net” gov debt is a fiction. Don’t get me wrong, there is corruption and graft in military spending, too.
Ahistorical nonsense. Many Jews kvetch because Jesus of Nazareth told the Pharisees that they are not getting a political warlord savior, and all efforts to that will either fail or become a golem, like Muhammad.
Also, Christianity that is mercy only is heretical in the most sincere meaning.
Falastin needs to be given to Jordan again, for a Kurdistan like rehabilitation. (((Palestinian liberation))) Is third worldism and not nationalist by design – to divide and conquer otherwise allies. Very similar to South Africa.
Krugman at least was a US admin state shill. Most mainstream US economists not in the Chicago School are. They tended to like the Shanghai faction more, not the realists in power now.
Which did more damage? Communism or the US sanctions?In order to find out, we must look at the performance of Communist states that did not have US sanctions or other economic restrictions placed on it.Is there such an example?China from 1980 onwards perhaps?Replies: @Palmm
Then they embraced communism with Chavez, add US sanctions, and they were done
Is this bait? China is Mercantilist, the Marxist symbols are just to avoid losing face for Mao following the advice of certain (((advisors))).
“Reaganism” claims to have taken much advice from the Chicago School and people like Friedman.
But gov spending has NEVER DECREASED IN REAL TERMS, most of it is not military, and most of it is income transfer. A pet peeve of mine is using the word capitalism, it’s a Marxist straw man.
Don’t get me wrong, “free markets” have been coopted by big shareholders, just as “sensible regulations” have been coopted by gov bureaucrats and union leaders. Politically disconnected labor is largely left out until Trump.
There is a “horseshoe” theory to it though, even if it’s a tragedy for the European peoples. Mulatto Dominicans, White Dominicans largely hate negros from Haiti. Even many Black Dominicans.
Islam is a largely Jewish golem, as well as europhobic third worldism. I don’t know what you’re really going for here.
The grain of truth is, if not for Ashkenazi Jews, Palestine would be like Kurdistan.
No small states are truly “sovereign,” example Azerbaijan vs Armenia. Except Israel of course, through the Samson option.
Reminder that “capitalism” is a Marxist strawman to bring in his satanic fantasy of classlessness. It was always private property, markets, and torts – and how a republic legislates them. Like the French origin of left and right in the parliament, it’s all dualistic satanic nonsense. Greed is ONE of the deadly sins, this is beyond greed. It’s a black comedy but almost every popular materialistic philosophy today is Jewish in origin.
This is the first glib shitting all over Kirk’s grave I have seen from the right. It is odd, that the dancing on the grave has generally only come from the left. Kudos to Unz Review for the uniqueness.
Certainly, there has been speculation from other apparent national socialists, that the rhetoric you’re playing around with here is the material of wanted chaos, conflict from (((some people))).
Eager, it would seem, to write the Palestinian People’s obituary, Trump had vowed to assume control over Gaza, rebuild it and evict the survivors of a genocide committed by client state Israel.
Not gonna lie, this “war” is beginning to drive me mad. ONE SIDE is the scum of the earth, Satan’s little demons, there is no in between – whether using human shields, or blasting innocent babies. But it can’t be both.
“The Jews,” that’s it? it has to be more than this.
My only sense of it, is moles are everywhere. The “green flag” thesis of allowing your enemy to cause significant casualties still makes sense – but the aftermath has shown that strategy is failing. I am noticing levels of “noticing” not thought possible.
Even if the Kahanists got their way, it’s clear a homogenous Israel wouldn’t be enough – since they still believe their Covenant is unbroken.
I don't think they are pro market. I remember them opposing free markets when Reagan was promoting them. What the Jew run media is doing is simply opposing whatever Trump policy is so they can create negative Trump narratives.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Palmm
I just find it odd that the mainstream press, all of the sudden, is pro market on tariffs.
“No Tariffs” are supposed to be one of the settled questions in “mainstream” economics – at least superficially. Tariffs are still widespread, especially “non-tariff barriers.” But it is all horse trading, IMO, to keep government spending high and out of control.
I just find it odd that the mainstream press, all of the sudden, is pro market on tariffs.
I don’t think they are pro market. I remember them opposing free markets when Reagan was promoting them. What the Jew run media is doing is simply opposing whatever Trump policy is so they can create negative Trump narratives.
Is “targeted Mercantilism,” politically preferable?
Not a politician, I do not pretend to know what is politically preferable. However, as far as what is good for the United States, targeted mercantilism is preferable to free trade in my opinion. Nontargeted mercantilism is also preferable to free trade. I do not know whether targeted is preferable to nontargeted.
Extreme mercantilism (100-percent tariffs and the like) would be unwise, but only moderate mercantilism is on offer in the United States at the moment, and moderate mercantilism is just what I want.
I notice that free traders keep trying to sell me free trade based on putative benefits I do not value. The free traders offer me (1) inexpensive foreign-made consumer goods, (2) humiliation of U.S. organized labor, (3) jobs supplying things foreigners demand, (4) interdependency between the United States and foreign countries, (5) a theoretical, almost imperceptible, Heckscher-Ohlin rise in U.S. GDP due to comparative advantage, and (6) the chance to sneer at my fellow citizens for failing to understand Ricardian trade theory as well as I do. I want none of these things, I don’t value them, I want other things, and I am not the only one that thinks this way.
No one gives a rat's arse what you value Overland.
I notice that free traders keep trying to sell me free trade based on putative benefits I do not value.
Not a politician, I do not pretend to know what is politically preferable. However, as far as what is good for the United States, targeted mercantilism is preferable to free trade in my opinion. Nontargeted mercantilism is also preferable to free trade. I do not know whether targeted is preferable to nontargeted.Extreme mercantilism (100-percent tariffs and the like) would be unwise, but only moderate mercantilism is on offer in the United States at the moment, and moderate mercantilism is just what I want.I notice that free traders keep trying to sell me free trade based on putative benefits I do not value. The free traders offer me (1) inexpensive foreign-made consumer goods, (2) humiliation of U.S. organized labor, (3) jobs supplying things foreigners demand, (4) interdependency between the United States and foreign countries, (5) a theoretical, almost imperceptible, Heckscher-Ohlin rise in U.S. GDP due to comparative advantage, and (6) the chance to sneer at my fellow citizens for failing to understand Ricardian trade theory as well as I do. I want none of these things, I don't value them, I want other things, and I am not the only one that thinks this way.Replies: @Truth Vigilante, @Palmm
Is “targeted Mercantilism,” politically preferable?
Free Trade, by economic definition, is preferable, “muh consumer prices.”
So I guess, instead of “politically” preferable, I should say it’s “nationally preferable” to at least protect vital industries like steel, energy, and heavy manufacturing. Autarky, even in the Russian case, is not happening – China will deal with anyone on good terms.
Contrary to popular belief, foreign businesses do not pay tariffs.
Foreign businesses apparently disagree. Have you not noticed how they react?
Yes of course, SPECIFIC business owners in China, Canada or Mexico will complain about the tariffs as THEY personally will lose market share and sell less of their products.
Foreign businesses apparently disagree. Have you not noticed how they react?
And, to the extent that Donald Chump may decide to introduce across-the-board tariffs on all nations, this will FAST TRACK the demise of the USD and send inflation to the moon.
Summary: The imposition of tariffs by Donald J Chump is EXACERBATING THE DECLINE IN THE USD and will fast track the loss of world reserve currency status for the USD.
When the USD loses this exorbitant privilege, it is Game/Set/& Match over for America, as the USSA descends into an inflationary depression which sees it becoming a Banana Republic.
Peter Schiff said the USD index was DOWN 4% in just a matter of a few days.
He said THE DOLLAR IS TANKING.
So this is playing out right now in REAL TIME, as USD holders dump them for REAL MONEY (ie: Gold) which can't be digitally conjured out of thin air by the ZOG owned Federal Reserve.
What don't you understand about the following statement?:
It’s IN THE REPORT, dumbass!
Foreign businesses apparently disagree. Have you not noticed how they react?Replies: @Palmm, @Truth Vigilante
Contrary to popular belief, foreign businesses do not pay tariffs.
Right, it is always better to describe parties involved, rather than the “legal entity.” So, Business taxes are paid by employees, shareholders, and consumers. The tax share I don’t now, but obviously, those are the three parties who must pay.
It’s a fundamental disagreement: Is “targeted Mercantilism,” politically preferable? President Trump and China/Chairman Xi agree. Free trade causes people to move around – just look at the US states. So this is an issue beyond economic efficiency.
Not a politician, I do not pretend to know what is politically preferable. However, as far as what is good for the United States, targeted mercantilism is preferable to free trade in my opinion. Nontargeted mercantilism is also preferable to free trade. I do not know whether targeted is preferable to nontargeted.Extreme mercantilism (100-percent tariffs and the like) would be unwise, but only moderate mercantilism is on offer in the United States at the moment, and moderate mercantilism is just what I want.I notice that free traders keep trying to sell me free trade based on putative benefits I do not value. The free traders offer me (1) inexpensive foreign-made consumer goods, (2) humiliation of U.S. organized labor, (3) jobs supplying things foreigners demand, (4) interdependency between the United States and foreign countries, (5) a theoretical, almost imperceptible, Heckscher-Ohlin rise in U.S. GDP due to comparative advantage, and (6) the chance to sneer at my fellow citizens for failing to understand Ricardian trade theory as well as I do. I want none of these things, I don't value them, I want other things, and I am not the only one that thinks this way.Replies: @Truth Vigilante, @Palmm
Is “targeted Mercantilism,” politically preferable?
No, I mean the mainstream press is AGAINST tariffs, and happen to agree with libertarians!
So when the ZOG elders say ‘write positive things about Chumps tariffs’, they dutifully comply.
“No, I mean the mainstream press is AGAINST tariffs”
I saw Democrat Joy Reid on MSNBC a while back come out against tariffs and I thought to myself, “she is just against them because Trump is for them”.
The Democrats are returning to their roots. The Southern Democrats seceded from the Union at least partly because they did not like the high tariffs the Republicans supported. If Jefferson Davis was alive today, he and his fellow Democrat Joy Reid would be comrades on the same side against the Republicans.
I agree, but you made me cringe by mentioning Joy Reid and Jefferson Davis in the same sentence! Joy Reid Rehabilitating Bill Kristol, Bill Maher forgetting he swooned over Ron Paul during the Bush Jr. years – the fakeness upset me.
Why are you shocked?
I just find it odd that the mainstream press, all of the sudden, is pro market on tariffs.
So when the ZOG elders say ‘write positive things about Chumps tariffs’, they dutifully comply.
No, I mean the mainstream press is AGAINST tariffs, and happen to agree with libertarians!
The blob/mainstream press finally found a tax they did not like!
I just find it odd that the mainstream press, all of the sudden, is pro market on tariffs.
These are the same people that will support, or be neutral, on every other tax. My suspicion is they “horse-trade” on positions, to get to a planned outcome.
I would argue, libertarians need to distinguish government spending that is income transfer, and the rest. The USAID revelations show there is no “waste,” only money laundering.
But yes, the argument is unilateral free trade is a net benefit to the US. That implies countries with a trade surplus with the US don’t know what they are doing.
I don't think they are pro market. I remember them opposing free markets when Reagan was promoting them. What the Jew run media is doing is simply opposing whatever Trump policy is so they can create negative Trump narratives.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Palmm
I just find it odd that the mainstream press, all of the sudden, is pro market on tariffs.
Why are you shocked?
I just find it odd that the mainstream press, all of the sudden, is pro market on tariffs.
The Deep Culture reason that all English speaking Protestant based societies are philo-Semitic is Judaizing heresy, Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, becoming the religious/cultural movement that is the most important basis of Modern English culture. All things pro-Jewish are in the very marrow bone of Wealthy Anglo-Saxon Protestant culture. To get rid of that Judaizing cultural power within all things WASP would be to kill WASP culture.
Regarding his analysis about US Israel relationship, I contend they are also superficial and fail to probe into the true depth of Israeli/Zionist Jewish control over US politics, foreign policy, economics, finance, media, academia, and religion.
His attribution of Israeli influence on US is so narrowly focused on the power of the Israeli lobby that one must wonder whether Professor Mearsheimer actually serves as controlled opposition to ringfence the debate over Jewish power in the US.
“White” is Germanic, Celtic, Slavic. The European groups are cultures, and was a “melting pot” before the bio-weapon that was the 1965 Hart-Celler act.
Professor Mearsheimer seems totally unaware that China has three times total industrial capacity than the US, has achieved technological parity and lead in most critical future technologies including AI and military tech, and is much better prepared for a kinetic war in the western Pacific near Chinese shores.
Enabled entirely by Western dislocation of our manufacturing base in the 90s, China’s slave-labor cheap costs, and China’s rampant theft of our technology particularly in the last 30 years. I worked for a high-tech engineering firm in LA whose astute CEO, despite his ‘globalist’ credentials, absolutely refused to do business with China so appalled was he by the industrial espionage.
Let us also not forget the long-time revulsion towards “Made in China” on a label, raising one’s suspicions as to the level of quality and safety of manufacture.
The economic power of China was made by the West.
The West has undone itself by being saddled with incompetent minorities and high costs, while China does not have this problem. It is in fact homogenous, and a disciplined country as well, although deeply totalitarian socially. (Social credit scores, constant government drone surveillance of citizens, etc)
Professor Mearsheimer suffers the same intellectual deficiency as the neocon hawks in the US establishment.
No, he does not. He is immensely admired for speaking out against NATO expansion and being quite blunt about The Lobby, even more so today than when his article/book first came out (his co-author Monsieur Walt seemingly having disappeared). His views on China are of less interest because intelligent Americans don’t really “buy” that we are mortal enemies with China. That country is allowed to buy up huge swathes of American land, some useless Commerce secretary on occasion wrist-slaps Beijing with weak sanctions, our AI goons insist upon a merger of our industrial bases and essentially economy is dependent upon theirs.
Moreover, I contend Professor Mearsheimer is a naïve and poorly informed geo-strategist, not in the same league as Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinki
Ye Gods, I almost stopped reading here.
Such a being does not exist and never has.Replies: @Exile in Paradise, @ltlee1, @SteveK9
intelligent Americans
Enabled entirely by Western dislocation of our manufacturing base in the 90s, China's slave-labor cheap costs, and China's rampant theft of our technology particularly in the last 30 years. I worked for a high-tech engineering firm in LA whose astute CEO, despite his 'globalist' credentials, absolutely refused to do business with China so appalled was he by the industrial espionage.
Professor Mearsheimer seems totally unaware that China has three times total industrial capacity than the US, has achieved technological parity and lead in most critical future technologies including AI and military tech, and is much better prepared for a kinetic war in the western Pacific near Chinese shores.
No, he does not. He is immensely admired for speaking out against NATO expansion and being quite blunt about The Lobby, even more so today than when his article/book first came out (his co-author Monsieur Walt seemingly having disappeared). His views on China are of less interest because intelligent Americans don't really "buy" that we are mortal enemies with China. That country is allowed to buy up huge swathes of American land, some useless Commerce secretary on occasion wrist-slaps Beijing with weak sanctions, our AI goons insist upon a merger of our industrial bases and essentially economy is dependent upon theirs.
Professor Mearsheimer suffers the same intellectual deficiency as the neocon hawks in the US establishment.
Ye Gods, I almost stopped reading here.Replies: @Anonymous534, @Palmm
Moreover, I contend Professor Mearsheimer is a naïve and poorly informed geo-strategist, not in the same league as Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinki
I’m embarrassed that Hua Bin is doubling down on a self parody. IMO, the biggest criticism of Mearsheimer is almost how simplistic it is – not how hamfisted, or “bait and switch” it is. Don’t blame Mearsheimer for the rise of China, he never supported economic ties. But he has said, “I feel at home” in China, and I “would do the same thing” if I were in the CCP position.
“Neocons” are forever 1938ers…..for Israel. This just doesn’t apply to offensive realists – who must admit, simplistically, that it is expected Israel would draft US military bases at all costs.
Why would it be any other way? I view these vows positively – at least the deadpan sounds you hear are “Brezhnevian.” We know they lie, they know we know, and yet they still do it, to paraphrase Solzhenitsyn.
I concur, but I do not agree in principle. I agree NATO is fake and gay, without the US, really gay, it’s odd. But I disagree there is no need for European Unity, and some imperial structure for that. Same issue with the EU, it’s a subversion operation, but there needs to be a Union of European Nations.
This happened during Mao’s watch between 1949 and 1976. It was a turbulent and chaotic time as the revolutionaries grappled with actual ruling. The guiding ideologies were faulty and many bad mistakes were made.
The understatement of the century, as far as the Chinese are concerned. I just like to bask in the bizarro world, because in university, my “country” was shit on. Is there anything Zhongguo can’t do?
You’d be wise to see how those (((advisors))) most likely knew how to weaponize pride.
My summary of Jesus of Nazareth’s message: “you are not getting a savior here on earth, and if YOU accept Me as the Savior, you will have eternal life in Heaven.” There are “collective” and “individual” Sins, which can explain some of the “indifference.” As well as Time. God created Time, and can have a irreversible effect – going down an “demonic path.” People realize that path, but it’s too late.
The “internet schizo view” is the elites are deterministic – they worship a deterministic god, EVERYBODY gets what they deserve. It is similar to Judaism – afaik, they believe they get everything they deserve.
Maybe its a larp, maybe it’s real, I don’t know.
Government spending is out of control in general, it’s at 12.8 trillion for 2025. My only pet peeve is shitlibs always use the excuse of “military spending” to increase other spending. Shitlibs are lying about the composition of total government spending.
For example, under the 1.37 trillion 2025 (for 2026) Military spending outlays, NON-military aid of 51 billion is included. But yes, the US can maintain the Monroe Doctrine for about 800 billion.
But NOTE TOTAL spending!
Yes, Sunni Islam is largely a Jewish golem – you are insulating any Jewish culpability. I would support the conversion of all the people to Christianity, through The Roman Catholic Church, or Apostolic Communion Churches. Even Eastern Apostolic Churches are fine.
It’s clear that Muhammad is a King David figure, a political savior.
I hope this will be more of the saying “Take Trump seriously, not literally.” He has to know this draws in Arab neighbors, which appears to be the plan.
What was more surprising was that South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham expressed skepticism about sending Americans to take over Gaza. This may be the first time in Senator Graham’s political career that he has opposed sending US troops abroad.
My understanding is Graham is lamenting the growing skepticism of support for Israel on even the US mainstream right. More and more people are realizing the migrant invasions to Europe, and ME Foreign policy are by design.
“anon account, I know,”
this is not only for you.
“Boomers” as a generation earn their hate by ripping and inverting the generational hierarchy. You can see this in retirement homes. Their explosion in popularity is a boomer phenomenon. Before, it was more common to have multi generational households. A movie that captures this inversion is “Wild in the Streets” (1968) By Barry Shear.
More common, but not universal, by any means. WW2 and its aftermath, as well as technology, the new ease in relocation and travel, and other societal changes caused the decline in nuclear families living in the same town, much less the same house.
Before, it was more common to have multi generational households.
It is anti civilization thinking. Of course there is some truth to careless people, which is why (((freedom))) is largely a mistake. But the depths of pride and greed are incredible in some “people.” But I HAVE TO accept there is a part/potential of that sentiment in me, and I think all people need to understand how other “people” get to the point of burning contempt for “suckers.”
You can always spot the Jewish commenter when they claim that their victims are stupid and that they deserve everything that they get. We’re all so stupid that it would be a crime for you not to rip us off…
Would you be satisfied with “Greater Israel I” being 1967 Israel, ethnically cleansed Gaza and West Bank, or “Greater Israel II,” being Greater Israel I, and the parts of Egypt, Syria, Iraq etc. formerly promised by God in the Tanakh? Sunni Islam is largely a Jewish Golem. Where will this end?
Is just one example. You claim to be Christian. Sure, you are likely trolling, but I find the entire “dual covenant theology” incredible.
You are certainly correct about the MIT license. The most known alternative, the GNU GPL (Stallman's work), is in an ironic way less free than the MIT (the GPL adds a normative but restrictive 'modification' clause). My guess is that in the case of DeepSeek it was done in order promote commercialization within Chinese industry. Of course the Stallman quote I mentioned was not 'made up' by him. Sources claim it was Stewart Brand to Steve Wozniak. And my comment was not meant to get into a thing about him v Torvalds and Linux. I mean, no one uses GNU HURD-- the proof is in the pudding, as they say. Only to comment on the idea that one cannot 'hide' useful information, or technical innovation, over long periods. And this is the big problem with US sanctions. Can't sell advanced chips to China? They will simply figure out a way to make them in-house. Might take them a few years. But they'll do it. In any case, you can't really hide technical innovation. One way or another ideas spread.Finally, it is not really important who first 'makes' the innovation. What matters is who makes the best use of it.Replies: @Palmm
Torvalds won over Stallman, IMO. The fact the program is licensed MIT,
I agree sanctions have expiration dates no matter what, but I still think that patents and copyrights have a crucial place in innovation in principle, as long as they aren’t abused, like in the US.
I happen to love linux, and consider Torvalds to be one of the greatest men alive now....in terms of contributions to humanity. I think present and future entrepreneurs/inventors would do well to learn from his selfless contributions to the world.Stallman himself made a big contribution to what eventually became the linux movement, but he wants to retain certain bragging rights and control on how linux fits into his notion of Free Software.Torvalds however, is mostly practical in his approach and just wants linux to be the best it can be. Idealism or legalistic nuance is secondary.I will suggest something you may not agree with: That these two men are the Western and Eastern approach to technology in microcosm.The West approaches technology with a certain idealism and relies on legalistic means to protect their creations. The East has a more practical approach, valuing how many people it can benefit at the lowest possible cost. It also focuses less on legalistic means to protect its products. The Chinese when the develop something, basically assume that it will be copied sooner or later. They resort not so much on lawyers to protect their product, but to move faster and develop the next iteration at lower cost before the competition.I will have to admit to you that I have benefited personally from the Chinese approach. I have bought many tools that would have been 5 to 10 times the price if it had not been for them.In effect, by lowering the costs of products, the Chinese have in effect raised the standard of living for the world. .... but no doubt many Americans would disagree with me.Replies: @Palmm
Stallman ...Torvalds
I agree, “in practice.” I know copyright and patents are different, but in the US, it has gotten out of control.
For example, if copyrights were limited to 28-40 years, instead of over 100, I would be on better grounds to disagree with you.
Stallman …Torvalds
I happen to love linux, and consider Torvalds to be one of the greatest men alive now….in terms of contributions to humanity. I think present and future entrepreneurs/inventors would do well to learn from his selfless contributions to the world.
Stallman himself made a big contribution to what eventually became the linux movement, but he wants to retain certain bragging rights and control on how linux fits into his notion of Free Software.
Torvalds however, is mostly practical in his approach and just wants linux to be the best it can be. Idealism or legalistic nuance is secondary.
I will suggest something you may not agree with: That these two men are the Western and Eastern approach to technology in microcosm.
The West approaches technology with a certain idealism and relies on legalistic means to protect their creations. The East has a more practical approach, valuing how many people it can benefit at the lowest possible cost. It also focuses less on legalistic means to protect its products.
The Chinese when the develop something, basically assume that it will be copied sooner or later. They resort not so much on lawyers to protect their product, but to move faster and develop the next iteration at lower cost before the competition.
I will have to admit to you that I have benefited personally from the Chinese approach. I have bought many tools that would have been 5 to 10 times the price if it had not been for them.
In effect, by lowering the costs of products, the Chinese have in effect raised the standard of living for the world. …. but no doubt many Americans would disagree with me.
(((Anarchism))) and (((Marxism))) are incomplete readings of Christianity. Jesus was anti-utopian – He came down to save souls, material wealth and (((equality))) are almost irrelevant, unless they get in the way of saving your soul. I know (((Anarchism))) is largely Italian, but all these philosophies are betrayals anyway.
“Liberation Theology” is a cancer of envy. Just because greed is one deadly sin, doesn’t mean you ignore the other deadly sins.
My guess is that this probably not the case. In matters of vital national interest, the Chinese seldom put all their eggs in one basket. We should not be surprised if they have a number of other AI companies hot on the heels of Deepseek. All with different strategies at play. I am not an expert in this field. Perhaps a specialist can verify my speculations to be true or not.I look at the parallel in EV Cars. People may have heard of BYD, or maybe Nio or Xpeng. But most folks do not know that China has some 200 EV manufacturers in cut throat competition with each other. This is why they are able to develop so fast....internal competition. This number will no doubt consolidate in the coming years as the fittest will out compete the rest.In a way, we can also see the hyper-competition aspect in Chinese domestic statecraft such as the competitive way that government officials are selected/promoted, and extending to the lowest level of selection of prospective government officials....the grueling Gaokao university entrance examinations.Replies: @迪路, @Palmm, @xcd
The Chinese, are ironically going all in, and even bypassing the “soft copyleft model” of the Mozilla Public License
I guess I am too focused on the technical aspect. Right, I wouldn’t doubt China/the government has state secrets, and a government tiered classification system of scientific research. I am also very aware of their “state directed” competition model, which is very demanding, as you state.
I was pointing out the limitations of “open source software.” Stallman had an incomplete collection of free software until Torvalds came along, who is more pragmatic, and was able to make a system that “runs on practially anything.” There’s also Mach out of Carnegie Mellon that has been parasitized for decades now.
I happen to love linux, and consider Torvalds to be one of the greatest men alive now....in terms of contributions to humanity. I think present and future entrepreneurs/inventors would do well to learn from his selfless contributions to the world.Stallman himself made a big contribution to what eventually became the linux movement, but he wants to retain certain bragging rights and control on how linux fits into his notion of Free Software.Torvalds however, is mostly practical in his approach and just wants linux to be the best it can be. Idealism or legalistic nuance is secondary.I will suggest something you may not agree with: That these two men are the Western and Eastern approach to technology in microcosm.The West approaches technology with a certain idealism and relies on legalistic means to protect their creations. The East has a more practical approach, valuing how many people it can benefit at the lowest possible cost. It also focuses less on legalistic means to protect its products. The Chinese when the develop something, basically assume that it will be copied sooner or later. They resort not so much on lawyers to protect their product, but to move faster and develop the next iteration at lower cost before the competition.I will have to admit to you that I have benefited personally from the Chinese approach. I have bought many tools that would have been 5 to 10 times the price if it had not been for them.In effect, by lowering the costs of products, the Chinese have in effect raised the standard of living for the world. .... but no doubt many Americans would disagree with me.Replies: @Palmm
Stallman ...Torvalds
Torvalds won over Stallman, IMO. The fact the program is licensed MIT, means it can be “parasitically used.” All “permissive licenses” are considered “cuck licenses” by true “open source” believers, of “copy left,” or more accurately, share-alike software.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/minix-intels-hidden-in-chip-operating-system/
Stallman was largely wrong. The Limux kernel means more than the GNU software compilation. The Chinese, are ironically going all in, and even bypassing the “soft copyleft model” of the Mozilla Public License.
But don’t worry. We all know China steals everything from us. It’s why we don’t have high speed trains connecting modern high tech cities.
China is advanced because they are Chinese people. The US has ethnic conflict and massive government income tranfser crowding out government assisted infrastructure build outs. I get the swipe, but I am waiting to see if the Chinese can go beyond the Japanese “lack of creation, but improvement, reliability, and refinement” of products.
My guess is that this probably not the case. In matters of vital national interest, the Chinese seldom put all their eggs in one basket. We should not be surprised if they have a number of other AI companies hot on the heels of Deepseek. All with different strategies at play. I am not an expert in this field. Perhaps a specialist can verify my speculations to be true or not.I look at the parallel in EV Cars. People may have heard of BYD, or maybe Nio or Xpeng. But most folks do not know that China has some 200 EV manufacturers in cut throat competition with each other. This is why they are able to develop so fast....internal competition. This number will no doubt consolidate in the coming years as the fittest will out compete the rest.In a way, we can also see the hyper-competition aspect in Chinese domestic statecraft such as the competitive way that government officials are selected/promoted, and extending to the lowest level of selection of prospective government officials....the grueling Gaokao university entrance examinations.Replies: @迪路, @Palmm, @xcd
The Chinese, are ironically going all in, and even bypassing the “soft copyleft model” of the Mozilla Public License
Ah yes, the beloved Western stereotype of the Asian: unable to create, only improve others' creations.
I get the swipe, but I am waiting to see if the Chinese can go beyond the Japanese “lack of creation, but improvement, reliability, and refinement” of products
You are certainly correct about the MIT license. The most known alternative, the GNU GPL (Stallman's work), is in an ironic way less free than the MIT (the GPL adds a normative but restrictive 'modification' clause). My guess is that in the case of DeepSeek it was done in order promote commercialization within Chinese industry. Of course the Stallman quote I mentioned was not 'made up' by him. Sources claim it was Stewart Brand to Steve Wozniak. And my comment was not meant to get into a thing about him v Torvalds and Linux. I mean, no one uses GNU HURD-- the proof is in the pudding, as they say. Only to comment on the idea that one cannot 'hide' useful information, or technical innovation, over long periods. And this is the big problem with US sanctions. Can't sell advanced chips to China? They will simply figure out a way to make them in-house. Might take them a few years. But they'll do it. In any case, you can't really hide technical innovation. One way or another ideas spread.Finally, it is not really important who first 'makes' the innovation. What matters is who makes the best use of it.Replies: @Palmm
Torvalds won over Stallman, IMO. The fact the program is licensed MIT,
The Constitution (including amendments) is very much open to interpretation. Is this news, for heaven's sake? What happened to spirit of the law VS letter of the law?Replies: @Palmm, @Old School Spook
Much of these moves are objectively stupid — birthright citizenship is guaranteed by the Constitution,
It really concerns me, how ahistorical this is. “Sure, you broke immigration law to get here, or stay here, OF COURSE your newborn/relative is a citizen now” said no honest person, ever. Yet the law has been “interpreted” this way.
What can work is having the government run the schools, police, military, and healthcare system directly, since it would be run by largely honest Welsh people. It is still subject to market forces since legislators buy goods and services from capital and labor markets. IMO, the Swiss system is better, but the people running the system matter more.
But you have to leave the land alone – it fucks so much up. Fine, tax it, buy it back etc., but gross expropriation is economically deadly, and frankly, deadly.
The whole point of a land tax is to make it useful for labor and capital formation, not a “money park.”
The issue is, the “tax” in the UK right now is is about 46% of the National Income already. Land taxes were used when government spending was trivial. Even China, today, the “tax” is about 33% of the national income.
This is unrealistic – economics are secondary to the Welsh people. Hungary is the model right now, IMO, not Sinn Fein or Plaid Cymru, which is what the “nationalists” have right now: shitlib post modern vassals with marxist lite dress (yes, I know it’s contradictory). IMO, The EU was “coopted” by the usual cosmopolitans to preclude a “Union of European nations” which does have a faction in the EU parliament. A union of European nations is a necessity.
Why is Hungary the model? Sinn Fein is coopted by “cosmopolitans” as far as support for receiving nation diluting migrants. Parties like Law and Justice in Poland are coopted by cosmopolitans who support the foreign policy that results in migrant invasions. Hungary appears to do it’s best to resist the subversive synergy of the “cosmopolitans.”
Europeans can larp as Germanic Roman citizens, or ironically, Germanic usurpers – it’s not a myth. It’s why I criticizse the “White” framing, and I think “Pan European Unity” is more fitting.