(White) population decline since 1950 is the story of nearly every American city.
Since ~1990, most US cities have tried to reverse the decline with a mass influx of Hispanics and to a lesser extent Asians and foreign blacks. This allows them claim they are “growing” while sweeping the effect of substituting net tax liabilities for net tax assets under the rug.
Pittsburgh is unusual only in that it has deferred replacing lost whites with non-whites, which means that they have to endure demoralizing decline statistics like what you showed. OTOH, they avoided the race-driven death-spiral of fellow rust belt cities like Detroit. So there’s that.
Nowadays Pittsburgh is importing non-whites (hence your 2024 figure), but has preferred Asians to Hispanics, so their municipal books will probably be sounder.
It looks like Pittsburgh City is stable in population for the past twenty years. It accumulated substantial numbers of Blacks but somehow never tipped over into an ever-increasing-Black spiral. The ratio of around 275:100 White:Black has been stable for forty years.
The metropolitan area is what matters (city-limits can often be arbitrary) and it seems that outside Pittsburgh City the population is something nearer 100% White in many places.
Mr Anon was one of the few here who was willing challenge Sailer directly on his daft kovid stance, and he took the two loathsome hacks known as Ha and That Would Be Telling to task. For that, he should have any reasonable person’s gratitude.
Yes, this.
Currdog is at least correct in his implication that Mr. Anon is overly excitable. I find Mr. Anon's ire amusing, but it detracts from Mr. Anon coming across as a serious person.Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Mike Tre, @Corpse ToothI suggest you reassess your opinion of Mr Anon. He is one of the best commenters here.
Corvi and Mr anon are mellow compared to them.
Putting Corvanus and Mr. Anon in the same sentence is risible. Mr. Anon and I have disagreed plenty of times, but amazingly, he has never come at me with the pejoratives he has used for others (nor I, him), so maybe it’s not all him? Like it takes two to tango and all that? Perhaps his message does get lost in his delivery, but then again so does yours, with your constant needling and somewhat extensive and arbitrary devil’s advocacy. When it becomes clear that you’re simply amusing yourself to annoy other commenters, that’s when I skip on down. I doubt I’m alone in that regard.
Mr Anon was one of the few here who was willing challenge Sailer directly on his daft kovid stance, and he took the two loathsome hacks known as Ha and That Would Be Telling to task. For that, he should have any reasonable person’s gratitude.
The commenters that disagree with me above all think the planes that flew into the WTC were holograms or something. Which is fine, I don’t really care, but it kinda discredits their authority on the matter.
Yes, this.
Mr Anon was one of the few here who was willing challenge Sailer directly on his daft kovid stance, and he took the two loathsome hacks known as Ha and That Would Be Telling to task. For that, he should have any reasonable person’s gratitude.
I know that's aimed at Currdog; but just so other readers know, I didn't compare them.
Putting Corvanus and Mr. Anon in the same sentence is risible.
Right, as I said: I don’t actually mind Mr. Anon’s ire. Catch us on Dancing with the Stars on ABC Primetime.
Like it takes two to tango and all that?
No, his delivery is quite intelligible. Not saying he’s right all the time, but I always know what he means.
Perhaps his message does get lost in his delivery,
“Needling”—everyone has a certain ‘tone’ I guess and mine (which varies) is not always perfect. Hey, it can’t always be LOLs and suckjobs. (At least that’s what I learned down at Enterprise Rent-A-Car.) But “devil’s advocacy” is surprising, I can’t think of examples of me doing that. Twinkie, with whom I’ve argued extensively (he loved to spar, apparently) fairly assessed my commenting manner thus (in a 2023 comment to Jack D):https://www.unz.com/isteve/diversity-is-our-strength-2/#comment-6099284 (#181)
… but then again so does yours, with your constant needling and somewhat extensive and arbitrary devil’s advocacy.
On second thought, on your “devil’s advocacy” charge: Maybe you mean I’ve repeatedly defended Sailer and Trump against those blowhards who suffer from SDS and TDS and can’t stop whinging about their personal devils: Trump and/or Sailer. I mean, imagine being an advocate for the devil Sailer on a blog forum named for Sailer? How uncouth. Ahhh, there I go again…
Commenter Jenner Ickham Errican can be annoying sometimes with his trolling (though I increasingly find him funny), but all you and Mark G have done so far is to call him names. Much of the time, JIE will chase your arguments to their logical conclusions (or lack thereof). If for nothing else, actually addressing JIE’s substantive points and counter-arguments will sharpen your own and increase their quality.
Can’t fault you for that. “Are you not entertained?” doesn’t always have a positive response. Some detractors’ entire lives are like that: Debbie Downers until they die of sudden chronic halitosis or whatever. Put another way, a wise man (not me, a different wise man) once said in his defense: “You see, you can't please everyone, so you've got to please yourself” as he was arrested for indecent exposure and lewd conduct at the Piggly Wiggly.
When it becomes clear that you’re simply amusing yourself to annoy other commenters, that’s when I skip on down. I doubt I’m alone in that regard.
Gratitude? Sure. What about automatic deference on anything he says? That would be weird. No one should here should be granted that. I sometimes agree with Mr. Anon, sometimes not. And presumably vice-versa.
Mr Anon was one of the few here who was willing challenge Sailer directly on his daft kovid stance, and he took the two loathsome hacks known as Ha and That Would Be Telling to task. For that, he should have any reasonable person’s gratitude.
Are you trying to (re)start another useless 9/11 debate? Please no.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Mr. Anon, @Currdog73, @Mike Tre
The commenters that disagree with me above all think the planes that flew into the WTC were holograms or something.
Huh? That is exactly how Trump thinks. And, it is what MAGA is delivering.So far this year Remigration stands at:• 2,000,000+ voluntary departures
Whatever the number of deportations has been since January 20, 2025, it’s not what people expected. (It’s hard to think at scale in a 340m mega-state.) The correct attitude on the deportations would have to be something like: This is completely insufficient, even if maybe a good small start. We need to doing a lot more. If what we have so far is the full “ball game,” we have failed. Trump is not capable of that
The closure of the Mexico border to substantial numbers of border-jumpers is a good thing the Trump-II people have (apparently) done.
Unfortunately I see nothing special about the rest. They are wasting time, and burning far too much political capital on stupid things. Trump Distraction Syndrome?
The whole Trump-MAGA phenomenon thrives on constant hype-cycles.
Are deportations substantially above the rate in previous eras? Are out-flows of people (what you call “voluntary departures”) much higher in 2025 than in previous comparable years? What about legal in-flows of people?
Except for the in-flow of illegal border-jumpers, none of these numbers are a big difference with business-as-usual. And an equivalent number of border-jumpers could be admitted legally under one of the proposed Trump Guest-Worker Programs. The absolute moral commitment must be to lowering their numbers, but Trump always instead wants to make a deal (as he likes putting it).
The big difference seems to be more the tone and the imagery on TV and the constant hype-drumbeat on social-media and elsewhere. Not that these things are without meaning, but they aren’t the same as real results.
Trump's administration needs the Senate to confirm appointees. Of the 53 GOP Senators, how many are establishment non-MAGA types? Mitch McConnell, Thom Tillis, and John Cornyn are obvious problem cases. This unfortunate dynamic gives figures like Lindsey Graham and John Thune substantial leverage. Managing this situation does burn political capital, but it is both smart and necessary.
They are wasting time, and burning far too much political capital on stupid things.
Again, Trump's team did not receive additional funding until the BBB passed in July. When measured against reasonable expectations, the results have been solid. Nothing is ever 100% perfect.
The closure of the Mexico border to substantial numbers of border-jumpers is a good thing the Trump-II people have (apparently) done. Unfortunately I see nothing special about the rest
Yes. Unfortunately, the chart did not embed. Let me excerpt some text: (1)
Are deportations substantially above the rate in previous eras? Are out-flows of people (what you call “voluntary departures”) much higher in 2025 than in previous comparable years?
These are unprecedented wins largely from before BBB passage. There is every reason to expect increased resources will deliver even better results going forward.
Analysis of the raw data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ (BLS) household survey, officially called the Current Population Survey (CPS), shows an unprecedented 2.2 million decline in the total foreign-born or immigrant population (legal and illegal) between January and July of this year. We preliminarily estimate that the number of illegal immigrants has fallen by 1.6 million in just the last six months. This is likely due to increased out-migration in response to stepped-up enforcement. However, analysis based on the CPS comes with caveats.Findings: • Analysis of the CPS data shows the total foreign-born population of all ages, both in and out of the labor force, declined an unprecedented 2.2 million from January to July – the largest six-month decline ever within the same year.• Non-citizens accounted for all of the falloff in the total foreign-born; the naturalized U.S. citizen population has actually increased some since January.• We preliminarily estimate that the illegal immigrant population declined an astonishing 1.6 million (10 percent) to 14.2 million from January to July of this year.
___Making the same adjustment for undercount in the data as we did in our earlier analysis, based on the January 2025 CPS, puts the total illegal immigrant population at 14.2 million in July of this year. If correct, this would represent an extraordinary decline of 1.6 million or 10 percent of the illegal immigrant population in just the last 6 months (see Figure 5).
Judicial proceedings must be won to end those legally in the country under Temporary Protected Status [TPS], DACA, etc. The necessary cases are proceeding through the system. On the immigration front, Trump has been winning at SCOTUS. There is a high probability that he can end mythical "birthright citizenship" where parents are illegals and/or temporary visa holders. That will reshape the dynamic for decades.
What about legal in-flows of people?
https://twitter.com/DHSgov/status/1988759137044382119
Homeland Security @DHSgov
23h
President Trump and Secretary Noem have jumpstarted an agency that was hamstrung and barred from doing its job for the last four years.
For the first time in over five decades, The United States is on track to see NEGATIVE NET MIGRATION.
The foreign-born population has declined by 2.2 million this year, which includes the 1.6 million illegal aliens who have voluntarily self-deported and 555,000 deportations.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G5l4NHyXMAA5ipY.jpg
https://twitter.com/MarkSKrikorian/status/1989043189932568901
Mark Krikorian @MarkSKrikorian
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The Immigration Court Backlog (Finally) Falls
For the first time in 17 years, more asylum cases are closing than opening—though more can and should be done to narrow the gap. https://open.substack.com/pub/commonplace/p/andrew-arthur-the-immigration-court
Pavilion, NY is 97% white
There was a Washington Post article a few days ago about how the best-affordable non-rural place for White Americans to buy homes. It is: Greater Pittsburgh.
—> Alert: Sailer’s AFF (or WAFF): (White) Affordable Family Formation.
Pittsburgh has long been the Whitest major metropolitan area. It had number-one ranking in the list I made pegged to the 2010 census (of 51 one-million-plus-resident metro areas): https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2012/02/12/the-usas-large-metro-areas-by-level-of-whiteness
Here is the Washington Post story on Pittsburgh’s / western Pennsylvania’s White housing affordability:
How this major city became one of America’s most affordable for homebuyers
While there are many yardsticks for calculating housing affordability, the western Pennsylvania city stands out as uniquely livable.
Washington Post
November 10, 2025
Steve Sailer says the Jewish-woman chemist Rosalind Franklin (1920-1958) would’ve held what by today’s standards could be problematic views.
Would Rosalind Franklin Have Been Cancelled As a Eugenicist?
How do we know that the woman whose data helped Crick and Watson didn’t share their deplorable views?
by Steve Sailer | Nov 10, 2025
Chemist Rosalind Franklin, who worked with Maurice Wilkins and Raymond Gosling to produce x-ray images that helped Francis Crick and James D. Watson figure out the structure of DNA in 1953, has been famous for not being famous for much of the last half century.
https://www.stevesailer.net/p/would-rosalind-franklin-have-been
Rosalind Franklin has been a celebrated (Jewish?-)feminist icon because she didn’t live long enough, says Sailer. The white-male James Watson, did live long enough.
Steve’s theory here fails overlooks the male, Western, and Christian-origin parts of the saga of the villification of James Watson (and many others; and really all white-males). There are several “outs” or someone like Rosalind Franklin.
What does it mean that TVs had become “90% cheaper” by some point in the early 2010s? (And further crept down towards “98% cheaper” by the early 2020s?)
To compare TVs in the year 2000 vs. in the year 2020 is not to compare the same thing. To force it, as if the graph were comparing apples vs. grapes vs. bananas (which can be counted on to be the same over time-spans) is misleading.
The same applies to anything related to computers and phones. These comparisons stop making sense, after a point. Late-1990s cell phones vs. mid-2020 cell phones are separated in time by a mere quarter century or so, but by a pretty big qualitative gap and a cultural gap.
(Most people in the late 1990s didn’t see the need for cell phones, and you can easily find TV shows from the period in which drug dealers and other suspicious characters are shown to be “cell phone people.” Ordinary people aren’t shown using them. There was seen to be something inherently questionable about it. Needless to say that disappeared by some point in the early 2010s. So there is a cultural-technological shift that breaks the continuity of the graph.)
For TVs, I’d guess it’s comparing a certain size TV which was excessively expensive in 2000 but over time the same size got lower in prize. In practice, are people paying “98% less” on the decadal TV budget? No. They may be paying about the same. They’re just getting much larger/flatter screens. Whether this is definitely a good thing or not is not obvious.
The short answer is the BLS applies a "hedonic adjustment" to TV prices to account for the factors you mention. I'm working on a longer form response to this whole issue. My hope is we can deconstruct that graph more. In particular with a quantitative analysis. I'm focusing on new cars (after looking at housing a bit) because that seems both important and relatively easy to understand and discuss.
What does it mean that TVs had become “90% cheaper” by some point in the early 2010s? (And further crept down towards “98% cheaper” by the early 2020s?)
The right criticism of Trump is to the effect that he is a buffoon (the jester of his own court) who wastes time, wastes power, creates pointless dramas, is unfocused, creates enemies, and troublingly loves claiming victory a lot more than actual having victory in itself. A lot of what Trump “is,” amounts to a giant distraction machine.
Whatever the number of deportations has been since January 20, 2025, it’s not what people expected. (It’s hard to think at scale in a 340m mega-state.) The correct attitude on the deportations would have to be something like: This is completely insufficient, even if maybe a good small start. We need to doing a lot more. If what we have so far is the full “ball game,” we have failed. Trump is not capable of that, so he is variously an unfocused buffoon and a person manipulated by others all too often.
Trump doesn’t care enough to have the level of sustained, morally-committed view of an issue as the one I sketched out in italics just above. And/or he doesn’t understand things both big and small.
Trump is a showman above all else. He wants a show, and he endeavors to give people a show. It’s possible he’d prefer doing full-time MAGA rallies and never have to bother with governing. (He famously doesn’t read the reports people prepare for him.) Like a lot of charismatic politicians, especially older ones, he seems to be quite a bit of a BS’er who, in a less-stable environment, could drive a country to ruin.
As I say, what Trump really, really wants is “a big show” and to declare victory. The bombing of the Iran nuclear site is a good example of th Trump Philosophy of Doing Anything: Big noises, explosions; claiming something is historic and the best-ever; claiming he solved a problem through his unique genius (such as ending seven wars; just nobody ask pesky questions), while never really interested in follow-through or asking any questions. Some say the site was empty and some among those say that Trump and co. knew it and the entire strike was another Trump-style “performance.”
Cool footage of a few deportations is similar to the illegal-but-cool-looking murders of people in alleged drug-boats, video of which this man can broadcast and pat himself on the back for being a Tough Guy. If he can even remotely-plausibly declare victory through some sort of appearance of something in that direction, it doesn’t matter which way the needle moves on the White share-of-population or the prospects for Whites to be in control of their own destiny in their own country again. That’s not his interest.
Huh? That is exactly how Trump thinks. And, it is what MAGA is delivering.So far this year Remigration stands at:• 2,000,000+ voluntary departures
Whatever the number of deportations has been since January 20, 2025, it’s not what people expected. (It’s hard to think at scale in a 340m mega-state.) The correct attitude on the deportations would have to be something like: This is completely insufficient, even if maybe a good small start. We need to doing a lot more. If what we have so far is the full “ball game,” we have failed. Trump is not capable of that
I’ve tried to reached out to Steve Sailer to tell him of the news about Germ Theory.
The Germ Theory of Disease was one of Sailer’s best quality commenters (read that as “best-quality” or “best, quality” as you wish). It looks like over 8,000 comments between November 2018 and October 2025, a large number of which are practically suitable to have been blog-posts in their own right.
Terrible news that he is so gravely ill. I will pray for him.
Germ was a gifted storyteller. I’ll miss his contributions.
True. Now that you mention it, much of his storytelling had a certain redolence of "taking inventory", as one does toward the end of life, almost as if he knew this moment was coming.Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
Germ was a gifted storyteller.
I have some very unfortunate news to relay to you all: the person whose handle is The Germ Theory of Disease has been transferred to hospice care having suffered at least two strokes last week and is not expected to survive more than a few days. Having known him for a couple of decades and enjoyed his company immensely despite his various craziness, I very much hope that last part isn’t true.
I.e., "the person whose handle was The Germ Theory of Disease" has tired of the Unz Review & moved on to greener pastures.He's a talented writer - I'll grant him that.Replies: @vinteuil, @Corvinus
...the person whose handle is The Germ Theory of Disease has been transferred to hospice care having suffered at least two strokes last week and is not expected to survive more than a few days.
people responded to the election of a new mayor on a strong anti-billionaire platform as if we didn’t see a campaign with these exact same themes win twelve years ago.
New Yorkers may or may not have short memories, but when a plurality of your electorate wasn’t even here twelve years ago, their memories don’t matter.
Along with their benefactors, a plurality of that electorate needs to be deported, no matter what legal status and rights were given to them.Replies: @deep anonymous
New Yorkers may or may not have short memories, but when a plurality of your electorate wasn’t even here twelve years ago, their memories don’t matter.
For unknown reasons, Steve Sailer has yet to make a general commentary on Mamdani.Replies: @Hail, @James B. Shearer, @Achmed E. Newman
The “thing” about Mamdani
“For unknown reasons, Steve Sailer has yet to make a general commentary on Mamdani.”
I do not find this surprising. Sailer has said he likes to comment on things where he feels he has some special insight and that he dislikes making factual errors. Living in Southern California he may feel he is not well positioned to offer accurate, insightful commentary on the intricacies of New York City politics.
I thought the substack post by Mathew Yglesias on Mamdani’s election was interesting albeit rather long.
“But the interesting thing about the Great Forgetting of Bill de Blasio is not that he was some embarrassing Johnson-like failure the left wants to memory hole. It’s that the left grew disillusioned with him almost immediately, to the point that four years after he stepped down, people responded to the election of a new mayor on a strong anti-billionaire platform as if we didn’t see a campaign with these exact same themes win twelve years ago.”
“The hard question for the urban left isn’t whether they can win elections in the most left-wing parts of the country. And it’s not even really whether they can do a good job in office. It’s whether they can sustain enthusiasm for their own champion as Mamdani has to wrestle with the actual problems of governance in a world where the prospects for socialism in one city are genuinely unpromising.”
New Yorkers may or may not have short memories, but when a plurality of your electorate wasn't even here twelve years ago, their memories don't matter.Replies: @OilcanFloyd, @Corvinus, @James B. Shearer
people responded to the election of a new mayor on a strong anti-billionaire platform as if we didn’t see a campaign with these exact same themes win twelve years ago.
Blaze Journalist Steve Baker Identifies January 6 Pipe Bomber as Former Capitol Police Officer Shauni Kerkhoff
Ms Kerkhoff was never questioned by the FBI. — Among the evidence, the FBI tracked a DC Metrorail SmarTrip card used by the pipe-bomb suspect to an Air Force civilian employee, that employee lived next door to Shauni Kerkhoff.||ideology||
Did anyone predict either of these things:
(1.) Trump calls FDR “a GREAT president”;
(2.) Trump instituting a 50-year mortgage policy ?
Some are saying the Trump 50-year Mortgage Plan “is a giveaway to the banks disguised as populism.”
You may have noticed that Trump periodically tweets solely to drive the "mainstream" media into a frenzy.
Did anyone predict either of these things:
(1.) Trump calls FDR “a GREAT president”;
(2.) Trump instituting a 50-year mortgage policy ?
The 50 year mortgage is classic Trump. It's just the used car salesman technique of trying to convince you that you are paying less for the car by reducing the amount of each monthly payment while increasing the number of payments you have to make.
Did anyone predict either of these things:
(1.) Trump calls FDR “a GREAT president”;
(2.) Trump instituting a 50-year mortgage policy ?
You can almost predict that Trump would say anything, given enough time. You could program a random sentence generator to spew out text, tell me that Donald Trump had said it, and I wouldn't necessarily be able to tell one way or the other.
Did anyone predict either of these things:
(1.) Trump calls FDR “a GREAT president”;
He sounds like a petulant child. I really think he's starting to go potty.
"For those that did nothing but complain, and took time off, even though everyone knew they would be paid, IN FULL, shortly into the future, I am NOT HAPPY WITH YOU.
You didn’t step up to help the U.S.A, against the FAKE DEMOCRAT ATTACK that was only meant to hurt our Country.
You will have a negative mark, at least in my mind, against your record.
If you want to leave service in the near future, please do not hesitate to do so, with NO payment or severance of any kind!
You will be quickly replaced by true Patriots, who will do a better job on the Brand New State of the Art Equipment, the best in the World, that we are in the process of ordering."
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/faa-freezes-private-jet-travel-12-major-airports
Many decades ago, I would go mushroom picking with my dad and my two uncles (long since dead) in fall time at a state park 30 minutes from where I had lived. My uncles spoke fluent Polish. I just knew the four types of mushrooms we picked by the names they told me—buttons, grassers, stumpers, banana. I can still pick them out of a mushroom lineup based on their color and size.
Anyways, I recall when I was 8 and we went to our usual spot. The four varieties were everywhere—the mother lode. As I was using my pocket knife to help out my dad and uncles pick them from several stumps, apparently there were other people in the area. Four guys came from nowhere, screaming we should leave as we were “taking their spot”. My uncles just carried on, ignoring their demand. Then the four guys started to swear in Polish. My uncles proceeded in kind. Both groups were just about to get into a knife fight, when my dad was able to calmly talk them out from shanking each other.
I got a Graf/s grape soda and some Crackerjack on the way home. We got two big bushels of mushrooms that morning. My grandma took several pictures of us (those were her two older brothers) cleaning the mushrooms in her basement.
_________James Watson was an "old stock" figure in more than one way. Apparently of 100% NW-European ancestry. Paternal-lines largely trace to colonial era. Dedicated to scientific inquiry, truth over 'face.'James Watson, and Charles Murray too, are the kind of White 'elite,' tinkerer-inventor, or generally prominent figure you'd have seen all over the map/spectrum, throughout the eras of North American history up through the mid-20th century. Look at the people who led the lynch-mob to 'Cancel' Watson in 2007 to find who the replacement elites are.Replies: @Pericles, @Hail, @Hail
One morning around four or five years ago, I got a phone call from James Watson. I was startled. I had met him only once, at a conference at Cold Spring Harbor in the mid-1990s and we hadn't been in touch since. I can remember few details, but I do remember that the call lasted for at least twenty minutes and that I soon realized that my job was to listen. James Watson needed a sympathetic ear. Perhaps he saw me as someone who had experienced on a far smaller scale something similar to what he had experienced. Perhaps he figured (correctly) that I would agree with what pained him the most: He hadn't done anything wrong. He had spoken candidly about his assessment of the evidence regarding the B/W difference in IQ. His conclusion that genetics were part of the story was shared by the majority of specialists in IQ. And yet his professional career and reputation had been devastated. He wanted to live long enough for his remarks to be vindicated. I do remember reminding him of some good news. Since the genome had been sequenced, it had been established that evolutionary change had taken place after the dispersal from Africa and that the change had been mostly local, not shared across continents. The genetic evidence from GWAS studies had already found ubiquitous population differences across all the races, including variants associated with cognition. Vindication would come. But I got no sense that I had done anything to ease his anguish. Now he is dead. In a half century, his reputation as one of history's great biologists will have been restored. People will know that he had the misfortune to reach old age in an era when the academy was lunatic. I hope he realized that before the end.
Sailer says he was “shock[ed]” by the Cancellation of James Watson in 2007, by which we can assume he indeed means he was genuinely surprised by it:
Steve Sailer:
The two shocking to me (at the time) harbingers of cancel culture were in 2005-07:
Harvard President Larry Summers for repeating Pinknerian talking points about why there were more male than female Harvard math professors, and
James D. Watson on W-B test score gaps.
To be honest: the fact that director Kathryn Bigelow (b.1951) is a woman may be the key to understanding how House of Dynamite went wrong. What I mean is, the final product seems to show she is not truly interested in the attractions and ‘potential’ of this kind of scenario. There are tell-tale signs of this all throughout, from start to finish.
(See also: Almost Missouri’s comments on the movie.)
NAXALT Disclaimer: Some women may be so-interested. But, in the pool of all people so-interested, it’s male-dominated and only a question of how big the ratio is. The odds are quite against a woman director doing this kind of movie well, I think.
A big-budget, interesting-concept, present-day, nuclear-war movie — ostensibly realistic (almost as if a documentary rather than some zany parallel world) ended muddled dud with nothing to say. As if the whole thing like a long-extended PSA commercial, because some or other people involved in the production really didn’t care about their subject!
They can be "wrong types" in another way, and, for the immigrants into America and the West over the last half-century, they ARE. That is, the peoples coming in have NO Libertarian tendencies whatsover.
Many libertarians are aware that the wrong types of immigrants can create negative externalities for the natives of a country.
If you want this country to head in a Libertarian direction, and Libertarians were too few even 50 years ago, is it wise to invite in people that neither want anything to do with nor have even HEARD OF your Libertarian ideals?
Libertarians seemed to be gaining traction in the 90s and early 2000s with Harry Browne, Ron Paul, and Lew Rockwell types, but their immigration stances and the tendency to attract the tie-died crowds and Randians doomed them, in my opinion. The very early Tea Party demonstrations had potential, but a movement has to stand for more than money, taxes, and ideology. Nobody wanted/wants to represent actual Americans, which really means white Americans, so here we are. We live in a nation where the elites have no attachment to the core population, no accountability to anyone, and a largely inferior and hostile replacement population on the ground.
Unless something is done to restore traditional demographics without exploding the population, the very best that can be hoped for is a steep decline in standards across the board. Who really believes that that is all we’ll face, since we are already there this early in the game?
That’s me but it neither seemed all that turbulent for me personally nor was stagflation anything other than something in the news. The most disturbing thing for me was seeing the home memorials for dead sons/soldiers in a neighbor’s home, vets without legs (seen on the Mall), busing and the negro riots (windows broken in neighborhood). Busing aside, which continued into the ‘90s, this really doesn’t compare to the increase of divorce and single mother families in the 70’s onwards and the incredible growth of drug use in the ‘70s onwards more so than the ‘60s though the sixties got the hype. Porn was an obvious major change of the ‘70s but it isn’t often highlighted.Replies: @Mark G., @epebble
The late Boomers spent their childhood in the turbulent sixties and adolescence in the stagflation seventies
That whole thirty year period from 1965 to 1995 seemed bad at the time but not so bad now looking back. The next thirty years involving the offshoring of our industrial base and the resulting factory job losses led to even more drug and alcohol use and men being unable to support a wife and children. You also started to see noticeable demographic changes from increasing immigration.
The prosperity of the second half of the nineties was largely illusory. It came from government inflationary policies creating the dotcom bubble and all of the large Boomer generation being in the workforce. Eventually the bubble would burst and the Boomers would start retiring. The Republicans controlled Congress for 12 years from 1994 to 2006 and also had the presidency half that time but did little to reduce the increasing trade deficits or increasing levels of immigration and to prepare for the day when tax revenues started dropping and Social Security and Medicare costs started rising when the Boomers started to retire and leave the workforce.
_________James Watson was an "old stock" figure in more than one way. Apparently of 100% NW-European ancestry. Paternal-lines largely trace to colonial era. Dedicated to scientific inquiry, truth over 'face.'James Watson, and Charles Murray too, are the kind of White 'elite,' tinkerer-inventor, or generally prominent figure you'd have seen all over the map/spectrum, throughout the eras of North American history up through the mid-20th century. Look at the people who led the lynch-mob to 'Cancel' Watson in 2007 to find who the replacement elites are.Replies: @Pericles, @Hail, @Hail
One morning around four or five years ago, I got a phone call from James Watson. I was startled. I had met him only once, at a conference at Cold Spring Harbor in the mid-1990s and we hadn't been in touch since. I can remember few details, but I do remember that the call lasted for at least twenty minutes and that I soon realized that my job was to listen. James Watson needed a sympathetic ear. Perhaps he saw me as someone who had experienced on a far smaller scale something similar to what he had experienced. Perhaps he figured (correctly) that I would agree with what pained him the most: He hadn't done anything wrong. He had spoken candidly about his assessment of the evidence regarding the B/W difference in IQ. His conclusion that genetics were part of the story was shared by the majority of specialists in IQ. And yet his professional career and reputation had been devastated. He wanted to live long enough for his remarks to be vindicated. I do remember reminding him of some good news. Since the genome had been sequenced, it had been established that evolutionary change had taken place after the dispersal from Africa and that the change had been mostly local, not shared across continents. The genetic evidence from GWAS studies had already found ubiquitous population differences across all the races, including variants associated with cognition. Vindication would come. But I got no sense that I had done anything to ease his anguish. Now he is dead. In a half century, his reputation as one of history's great biologists will have been restored. People will know that he had the misfortune to reach old age in an era when the academy was lunatic. I hope he realized that before the end.
Look at the people who led the lynch-mob to ‘Cancel’ Watson in 2007 to find who the replacement elites are
Okay, I won’t keep all the good Sailer-comment readers out there in suspense any more. From 2007:
Southern Poverty Law Center: HATEWATCH
ACADEMIC RACISM: INTO THE MUCK
December 9, 2007
by Mark PotokWhen Nobel Prize winner James D. Watson suggested in October that Africans are innately less intelligent than others, he was met by an international firestorm of scientific criticism, ultimately resulting in his public apology and later resignation […]
[E]xperts on intelligence challenged the scientific basis for Watson’s comment, and [Francis Collins,] the director of the Human Genome Research Institute, who took up his post after Watson left it, described Watson’s remark as “a racist statement.”
Francis Collins joined in the denunciation of James Watson, but was merely following a mob of Mark Potoks.
Francis Collins is remembered these days for his role as a leading promoter of the Covid Panic of 2020, denouncing and suppressing skeptics and opponents of the Panic, and warp-speeding the vaccines.
Francis Collins’ deputy (number two) at the Human Genome Research Institute was Alan Guttmacher, who took over the Human Genome Research Institute a few months after James Watson’s unpersoning.
But these guys, the Collinses and even the Guttmachers, were not the drivers of the Race Panic and cancellation of James Watson for his (scientifically-irrefutable) racial views. That was the Mark Potoks.
Notice again the exact wording used by racial-political commissar Potok: he frames it as “an international firestorm of scientific criticism,” which makes it seem like Watson had become an a fanatic Flat-Earther. In other worse, total moral-delegitimation of rivals/targets. (That’s not the way the USA used to work.)
To find the names of key, leading anti-Watson agitators, and power-players who signalled their approval of the guillotining of James Watson — the people who made the panic begin and spread, who let the ritual humiliation and unpersoning succeed — a long trip through the Sailer archives in late 2007 might be profitably done by someone.
CHRIS RUFO : Some selection, some curation, some thought, some taste [is necessary or inevitable]. We're going to have different guests on than another show, because we have different ideas, different preferences, different interests, different curiosity. But I think we do need to distinguish between 'dead ends' that are bad for the movement. 'Groyperism' I would put in that category. We should have platforms for wider debate.
Replies: @Corvinus, @Hypnotoad666
CHRIS RUFO: I've had debates with Curtis Yarvin, who I don't agree with at all on anything. But there is something that you learn from those debates, something that you gain. You strengthen your arguments. You see where your arguments might be weaker. You learn about someone else's arguments. And I think that we need to [set] boundaries that permit debate, but are also sophisticated, [to] sort out the 'real' from the 'hyperreal,' the dead ends from the productive possibilities.
“the Rufo & Lomez Show”
Listened to it. Empty calories.
“But I think we do need to distinguish between ‘dead ends’ that are bad for the movement.”
So, gate keeping.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2IhvTIX1NI
I feel great because I am at least 1/8 Norwegian-Swedish
DU GAMLA, DU FRIA
Du gamla, Du fria, Du fjällhöga Nord!
Du tysta, Du glädjerika sköna...
Jag hälsar Dig, vänaste land uppå jord
Din sol, Din himmel, Dina ängder gröna!
Din sol, Din himmel, Dina ängder gröna!
Du tronar på minnen från fornstora dar--
då ärat Ditt namn flög över jorden...
Jag vet att Du är och förblir vad du var;
Ja, jag vill leva jag vill dö i Norden!
Ja, jag vill leva jag vill dö i Norden!
Replies: @Hail
YOU ANCIENT, YOU FREE
You ancient, you free, you mountainous North!
You quiet, you joyous beauty...
I greet [or "hail"] you, loveliest land upon Earth,
Your sun, your sky, your countryside green! (x2)
You are enthroned upon memories of ancient days,
When, honored, your name flew across the Earth...
I know that you are, and you will be, what you were,
Yes, I want to live, I want to die in the North! (x2)
DU GAMLA, DU FRIA
YOU ANCIENT, YOU FREE
My apologies to all fans of correctness:
I posted the “Du Gamla, Du Fria” lyrics limited to the widely-known, ‘classic,’ two-verse, version which is pan-Scandinavian (or easily adaptable considerably beyond Scandinavia
The music, though, is from the widened four-verse version.
I’ll post here the four-verse version in Swedish and English, side-by-side.
For those with total unfamiliarity with the languages of Scandinavia, you can confirm their close relation to English/German easily, by a simple exercise in comparing these (simple) lyrics line by line. It’s quite possible, much of the time, to do full–on “word substitution,” and with merely slightly altered words at that.
You’re going to have to do some work, though, by clicking “More”:
_________James Watson was an "old stock" figure in more than one way. Apparently of 100% NW-European ancestry. Paternal-lines largely trace to colonial era. Dedicated to scientific inquiry, truth over 'face.'James Watson, and Charles Murray too, are the kind of White 'elite,' tinkerer-inventor, or generally prominent figure you'd have seen all over the map/spectrum, throughout the eras of North American history up through the mid-20th century. Look at the people who led the lynch-mob to 'Cancel' Watson in 2007 to find who the replacement elites are.Replies: @Pericles, @Hail, @Hail
One morning around four or five years ago, I got a phone call from James Watson. I was startled. I had met him only once, at a conference at Cold Spring Harbor in the mid-1990s and we hadn't been in touch since. I can remember few details, but I do remember that the call lasted for at least twenty minutes and that I soon realized that my job was to listen. James Watson needed a sympathetic ear. Perhaps he saw me as someone who had experienced on a far smaller scale something similar to what he had experienced. Perhaps he figured (correctly) that I would agree with what pained him the most: He hadn't done anything wrong. He had spoken candidly about his assessment of the evidence regarding the B/W difference in IQ. His conclusion that genetics were part of the story was shared by the majority of specialists in IQ. And yet his professional career and reputation had been devastated. He wanted to live long enough for his remarks to be vindicated. I do remember reminding him of some good news. Since the genome had been sequenced, it had been established that evolutionary change had taken place after the dispersal from Africa and that the change had been mostly local, not shared across continents. The genetic evidence from GWAS studies had already found ubiquitous population differences across all the races, including variants associated with cognition. Vindication would come. But I got no sense that I had done anything to ease his anguish. Now he is dead. In a half century, his reputation as one of history's great biologists will have been restored. People will know that he had the misfortune to reach old age in an era when the academy was lunatic. I hope he realized that before the end.
I thought it was an exceedingly fine gesture by Alisher Usmanov to buy and give Watson back his Nobel medal after he felt forced to sell it. Western billionaires can fuck right off.
https://www.stevesailer.net/p/james-d-watson-rip
DNA discoverer James Watson has died aged 97. Good genes. I’m sure Steve will post something.
Replies: @Hail, @MEH 0910
James D. Watson, RIP
The co-discoverer of the structure of DNA, who was cancelled for mentioning the existence of the racial IQ gap, has died at 97.
Steve Sailer
Nov 07, 2025 ∙ Paid
Charles Murray, today, publishes this reminiscence-tribute to James Watson (1928-2025; terminated from polite society, in 2007, for Racism):
One morning around four or five years ago, I got a phone call from James Watson. I was startled. I had met him only once, at a conference at Cold Spring Harbor in the mid-1990s and we hadn’t been in touch since. I can remember few details, but I do remember that the call lasted for at least twenty minutes and that I soon realized that my job was to listen. James Watson needed a sympathetic ear.
Perhaps he saw me as someone who had experienced on a far smaller scale something similar to what he had experienced. Perhaps he figured (correctly) that I would agree with what pained him the most: He hadn’t done anything wrong. He had spoken candidly about his assessment of the evidence regarding the B/W difference in IQ. His conclusion that genetics were part of the story was shared by the majority of specialists in IQ. And yet his professional career and reputation had been devastated.
He wanted to live long enough for his remarks to be vindicated. I do remember reminding him of some good news. Since the genome had been sequenced, it had been established that evolutionary change had taken place after the dispersal from Africa and that the change had been mostly local, not shared across continents. The genetic evidence from GWAS studies had already found ubiquitous population differences across all the races, including variants associated with cognition. Vindication would come. But I got no sense that I had done anything to ease his anguish.
Now he is dead. In a half century, his reputation as one of history’s great biologists will have been restored. People will know that he had the misfortune to reach old age in an era when the academy was lunatic. I hope he realized that before the end.
_________
James Watson was an “old stock” figure in more than one way. Apparently of 100% NW-European ancestry. Paternal-lines largely trace to colonial era. Dedicated to scientific inquiry, truth over ‘face.’
James Watson, and Charles Murray too, are the kind of White ‘elite,’ tinkerer-inventor, or generally prominent figure you’d have seen all over the map/spectrum, throughout the eras of North American history up through the mid-20th century.
Look at the people who led the lynch-mob to ‘Cancel’ Watson in 2007 to find who the replacement elites are.
Okay, I won't keep all the good Sailer-comment readers out there in suspense any more. From 2007:
Look at the people who led the lynch-mob to ‘Cancel’ Watson in 2007 to find who the replacement elites are
Francis Collins joined in the denunciation of James Watson, but was merely following a mob of Mark Potoks. Francis Collins is remembered these days for his role as a leading promoter of the Covid Panic of 2020, denouncing and suppressing skeptics and opponents of the Panic, and warp-speeding the vaccines. Francis Collins' deputy (number two) at the Human Genome Research Institute was Alan Guttmacher, who took over the Human Genome Research Institute a few months after James Watson's unpersoning.But these guys, the Collinses and even the Guttmachers, were not the drivers of the Race Panic and cancellation of James Watson for his (scientifically-irrefutable) racial views. That was the Mark Potoks. Notice again the exact wording used by racial-political commissar Potok: he frames it as "an international firestorm of scientific criticism," which makes it seem like Watson had become an a fanatic Flat-Earther. In other worse, total moral-delegitimation of rivals/targets. (That's not the way the USA used to work.)To find the names of key, leading anti-Watson agitators, and power-players who signalled their approval of the guillotining of James Watson -- the people who made the panic begin and spread, who let the ritual humiliation and unpersoning succeed -- a long trip through the Sailer archives in late 2007 might be profitably done by someone.
Southern Poverty Law Center: HATEWATCHACADEMIC RACISM: INTO THE MUCKDecember 9, 2007
by Mark PotokWhen Nobel Prize winner James D. Watson suggested in October that Africans are innately less intelligent than others, he was met by an international firestorm of scientific criticism, ultimately resulting in his public apology and later resignation [...] [E]xperts on intelligence challenged the scientific basis for Watson’s comment, and [Francis Collins,] the director of the Human Genome Research Institute, who took up his post after Watson left it, described Watson’s remark as “a racist statement.”
Steve Sailer:
The two shocking to me (at the time) harbingers of cancel culture were in 2005-07:
Harvard President Larry Summers for repeating Pinknerian talking points about why there were more male than female Harvard math professors, and
James D. Watson on W-B test score gaps.
The parameters of the Rufo & Lomez Show show have been set and announced (see 54:45 to 56:45):
CHRIS RUFO : Some selection, some curation, some thought, some taste [is necessary or inevitable].
We’re going to have different guests on than another show, because we have different ideas, different preferences, different interests, different curiosity.
But I think we do need to distinguish between ‘dead ends’ that are bad for the movement. ‘Groyperism‘ I would put in that category. We should have platforms for wider debate.
CHRIS RUFO: I’ve had debates with Curtis Yarvin, who I don’t agree with at all on anything. But there is something that you learn from those debates, something that you gain. You strengthen your arguments. You see where your arguments might be weaker. You learn about someone else’s arguments.
And I think that we need to [set] boundaries that permit debate, but are also sophisticated, [to] sort out the ‘real’ from the ‘hyperreal,’ the dead ends from the productive possibilities.
Another boring gatekeeper Op which will sink without a trace.
The parameters of the Rufo & Lomez Show show have been set and announced (see 54:45 to 56:45):
The Hurt Locker and Zero Dark Thirty, are so bad it defies belief
They gave her an Oscar (March 2010) for Best Picture (!), and another for Best Director, for The Hurt Locker.
That kind of thing might get Sailer’s enduring respect to the extent of leading towards some Anti-Noticing. (I don’t recall if I saw either one.)
_________
2010 “Best Picture” nominees:
– The Hurt Locker (winner)
– Avatar
– The Blind Side
– District 9
– An Education
– Inglourious Basterds
– Precious: Based on the Novel ‘Push’ by Sapphire
– A Serious Man
– Up [animated]
– Up in the Air
2010 “Best Director” nominees:
– Kathryn Bigelow – The Hurt Locker (winner)
– James Cameron – Avatar
– Quentin Tarantino – Inglourious Basterds
– Lee Daniels – Precious: Based on the Novel ‘Push’ by Sapphire
– Jason Reitman – Up in the Air
(Does “Best Director” always overlap so totally with “Best Picture”?)
Saw it. As you say, it was disappointing on every dimension. The military/technical/geopolitical backstories that would interest three-digit IQ men are all completely perfunctory and unexplored. The designated General Ripper-esque character is a silly caricature. The movie stops the moment before impact, so the explosions-and-violence viewer demographic gets blue-balled. (Also a terrible violation of Chekov's Gun rule.)
A House of Dynamite
“Kathryn Bigelow”
Sailer’s assessment of this director is laughable. The two movies she did that you mention, The Hurt Locker and Zero Dark Thirty, are so bad it defies belief. The Hurt Locker is an absolute mess. It makes zero sense, but of course it has the cookie cutter Killgore inspired character that all of these movies have. Zero Dark Thirty is basically pro “official story” propaganda regarding the “hunt” for OBL, featuring a Mary Sue CIA operative played by the unbearable and insufferable Jessica Chastain. I mean, I don’t even think the actual body of OBL (or whomever they killed) would have even been cold yet when this movie came out.
The only movie she did that was any good, as far as entertainment value goes, was Point Break (which has such a James Cameron feel I’d be shocked if he didn’t actually direct it in reality) and that was because Gary Busey and Patrick Swayze carried Keanu’s dull ass throughout the whole thing.
They gave her an Oscar (March 2010) for Best Picture (!), and another for Best Director, for The Hurt Locker. That kind of thing might get Sailer's enduring respect to the extent of leading towards some Anti-Noticing. (I don't recall if I saw either one.)_________2010 "Best Picture" nominees:
The Hurt Locker and Zero Dark Thirty, are so bad it defies belief
With respect, I will have to disagree. Zero Dark Thirty was an excellent movie.Was it an excellent history? No. No movie is. But - purely viewed as a movie, as a cinematic undertaking - it was exceptionally well made. I think that Katheryn Bigelow is a much better director than her ex-husband, James Cameron.Is it regime propaganda? Yes, of course. You can see that they probably cleared a lot of it with the Obama administration. It was practically intended as a campaign ad for Obama (it came out in the election year of 2012). Obama - never shown or named, but invoked - was implied to be a smart guy, a decisive guy, a guy who was looking out for the American interest.And yet........and yet..........although it could be construed as a full-throated endorsement of the WoT - the "War on Terror" - look what it actually showed. It depicted our War on Terror as a sordid, squalid affair, in which we tortured people. Yes, it echoes CIA propaganda that torture works and that we were justified in torturing people, but it still shows us - Americans - the Good Guys (right?) torturing people. That's kind of out-there. And it shows the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound not as some brave commando raid, but as a cold-blooded murder. We sent a platoon of highly trained killers to grease a fifty-something dialysis patient and his family. It's less Where Eagles Dare and more Goodfellas.One could almost imagine a subversive subtext to Bigelow's movie, as if she were blinking a message with her eyelids, Hanoi-Hilton-style: yeah, I'm saying this is great, but - look closely - I'm not saying this is great.I don't know. It's complicated.Replies: @Mike Tre
Zero Dark Thirty is basically pro “official story” propaganda regarding the “hunt” for OBL, featuring a Mary Sue CIA operative played by the unbearable and insufferable Jessica Chastain. I mean, I don’t even think the actual body of OBL (or whomever they killed) would have even been cold yet when this movie came out.
General Question:Have any Sailer-commentariat people seen the attention-getting new movie A House of Dynamite? A House of Dynamite is flat and disappointing in all ways: as art, as political statement, as satire, as realistic documentary-type effort, as anything. The movie makes nuclear war look boring! (spoilers below)It's cowardly on all important points, refusing (for example) to identify who shot the lone rogue nuclear missile at a U.S. city, refusing to identify any "bad guy" (or force) at all. The whole thing is supposed to be exciting and dramatic but for 2/3rds of it, it really goes nowhere. It also fails as any sort of satire, if that was the idea.A House of Dynamite muddles its own political points. It unrealistically portrays nuclear-war doctrine as something led by hair-trigger wackos, none of whom appear to have thought things through, who insist on retaliatory strikes against "someone" even when they don't know who shot the missile or even whether there is a missile and not some elaborate spoof. So the movie both takes itself far too seriously and also not seriously at all, somehow combining the two into one mediocre whole. The president is a throwback Black Wise Genius type. A Hollywoodized Michelle Obama is First Lady. She's out saving the elephants in Africa when this flat-and-boring nuclear war starts.If Sailer were still doing movie reviews, he might be interested in "teeing off" against this extremely weak, flat movie in his usual crafty way.Replies: @epebble, @Hail, @Almost Missouri
U.S. nuclear war doctrine
A House of Dynamite
Saw it. As you say, it was disappointing on every dimension. The military/technical/geopolitical backstories that would interest three-digit IQ men are all completely perfunctory and unexplored. The designated General Ripper-esque character is a silly caricature. The movie stops the moment before impact, so the explosions-and-violence viewer demographic gets blue-balled. (Also a terrible violation of Chekov’s Gun rule.)
Steve describes Kathryn Bigelow as the lady director who will “sympathetically explore the crazy stuff that men do … fascinated by men who like blowing up stuff”, which was on display in the not-so-masculinely-named Hurt Locker, but has completely disappeared from the very-masculinely-named House of Dynamite.
Basically, the film is just a concatenation of brief character sketches of people, up and down the US chain-of-command, facing an imminent nuclear explosion, and they all react the same way: emotional meltdown and unseemly displays of metaphorical menstruation. Except the guy who carries the nuclear football, played with sangfroid by some British actor, who has about half a minute of screentime near the end. And yeah, casting Idris Elba (British, lol) as the new-and-improved Barack Obama sure was irritating. With Rebecca Ferguson and Jared Harris, it is notably peculiar how British-ly director Bigelow has cast this soi-disant character portrait of the US security state. I guess they work cheaper and are better at the rapid stern-to-sad transition that is the main action in this film.
Women carry the football too, or did. I had a friend who knew a guy who dated one of them back in the day and said he got a little concerned about the security of our country when she asked him to give her a child with no strings attached. I’m not so sure I like the idea of a woman carrying that thing.Replies: @Almost Missouri
character sketches of people, up and down the US chain-of-command, facing an imminent nuclear explosion, and they all react the same way: emotional meltdown and unseemly displays of metaphorical menstruation. Except the guy who carries the nuclear football
That line is from Ross Douthat, shown in the video. He is speaking about Lomez and Christopher Rufo (caveat: the latter has long been an activist for increasing the rate of Asian success in the name of fairness; so "right-wing" is, these days, far from necessarily "pro-White").
"I think America has, for the first time in modern memory, a right-wing counter-culture."
fwiw —- the 1h6m first episode of “Rufo & Lomez on BlazeTV,” featuring Lomez (Sailer publisher and publicity-man) and Chris Rufo (Sailer-influenced and generally mutual well-wisher), is up:
CHRIS RUFO : Some selection, some curation, some thought, some taste [is necessary or inevitable]. We're going to have different guests on than another show, because we have different ideas, different preferences, different interests, different curiosity. But I think we do need to distinguish between 'dead ends' that are bad for the movement. 'Groyperism' I would put in that category. We should have platforms for wider debate.
Replies: @Corvinus, @Hypnotoad666
CHRIS RUFO: I've had debates with Curtis Yarvin, who I don't agree with at all on anything. But there is something that you learn from those debates, something that you gain. You strengthen your arguments. You see where your arguments might be weaker. You learn about someone else's arguments. And I think that we need to [set] boundaries that permit debate, but are also sophisticated, [to] sort out the 'real' from the 'hyperreal,' the dead ends from the productive possibilities.
This applies beyond just science per se.
science these days...has divided up into lots of esoteric subfields that only a few people in the world are interested in. And some of these subfields have been taken over by small cliques that referee and cite each other’s papers and reject outside criticism.
subfields have been taken over by small cliques that referee and cite each other’s papers and reject outside criticism.
Interesting to consider the case of the recently-deceased James Watson in this context.
Steve Sailer says James Watson‘s racial views have been vindicated:
The co-discoverer of the structure of DNA, who was cancelled for mentioning the existence of the racial IQ gap, has died at 97.
[S]ince 2007, Africa has taken the lead in the development of artificial intelligence, thus disproving Watson’s view.
Oh, wait …
[T]he 2007 cancellation of James D. Watson, America’s most distinguished man of science, for telling the truth about racial cognitive differences was a catastrophic milestone in America’s descent into the anti-science hysteria of the Great Awokening decade (hopefully, now in our rear view mirror).
Mamdani’s proclamation on targeting “white neighborhoods,” exact wording:
“Shift the tax burden from overtaxed homeowners in the outer boroughs to more expensive homes in richer and whiter neighborhoods.”
“The property tax system is unbalanced because assessment levels are artificially capped, so homeowners in expensive neighborhoods pay less than their fair share. The Mayor can fix this by pushing class assessment percentages down for everyone and adjusting rates up, effectively lowering tax payments for homeowners in neighborhoods like Jamaica and Brownsville while raising the amount paid in the most expensive Brooklyn brownstones.”
The new policy would be designed to favor, quote, “family homes in Black and Latino neighborhoods like Jamaica, Brownsville, and Tremont […].”
For unknown reasons, Steve Sailer has yet to make a general commentary on Mamdani.Replies: @Hail, @James B. Shearer, @Achmed E. Newman
The “thing” about Mamdani
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G5AKv9rWAAAuYrw.jpg
Roman Helmet Guy
@romanhelmetguy
Libertarian billionaires lobbied for infinite third-world immigration to “reduce social solidarity” on purpose, because they believed the resulting ethnic hatred would stop people from voting for wealth redistribution, so now NYC has a communist mayor.
10:52 AM · Nov 5, 2025
Replies: @Hail, @J.Ross, @epebble
Alexander Nowrasteh is an American analyst of immigration policy currently working at the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank located in Washington D.C. Nowrasteh is an advocate of freer migration to the United States.[1] He previously worked as the immigration policy analyst at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, another libertarian think tank.[2] Nowrasteh is a self-described "radical" advocate for open borders to and from the United States.[3]
“The” Alex Nowrasteh reached impressive heights of self-parody there.
He had an explosive bout of a “Quiet Part Out Loud” that day. It just came out that way: suddenly, slimily, right there in his chair. The embarrassment at the discharge may have been minimal. Maybe race-and-politics expert Mr Alex Nowratesh had a spare change of clothes around the office and was able to get back to looking like a normal adult, one in reasonable control of his faculties, in no time.
Alex Nowrasteh was born and raised in Southern California to Iranian-American filmmaker Cyrus Nowrasteh and his wife Betsy Giffen Nowrasteh.
Replies: @MEH 0910
Publications related to immigration
General Question:Have any Sailer-commentariat people seen the attention-getting new movie A House of Dynamite? A House of Dynamite is flat and disappointing in all ways: as art, as political statement, as satire, as realistic documentary-type effort, as anything. The movie makes nuclear war look boring! (spoilers below)It's cowardly on all important points, refusing (for example) to identify who shot the lone rogue nuclear missile at a U.S. city, refusing to identify any "bad guy" (or force) at all. The whole thing is supposed to be exciting and dramatic but for 2/3rds of it, it really goes nowhere. It also fails as any sort of satire, if that was the idea.A House of Dynamite muddles its own political points. It unrealistically portrays nuclear-war doctrine as something led by hair-trigger wackos, none of whom appear to have thought things through, who insist on retaliatory strikes against "someone" even when they don't know who shot the missile or even whether there is a missile and not some elaborate spoof. So the movie both takes itself far too seriously and also not seriously at all, somehow combining the two into one mediocre whole. The president is a throwback Black Wise Genius type. A Hollywoodized Michelle Obama is First Lady. She's out saving the elephants in Africa when this flat-and-boring nuclear war starts.If Sailer were still doing movie reviews, he might be interested in "teeing off" against this extremely weak, flat movie in his usual crafty way.Replies: @epebble, @Hail, @Almost Missouri
U.S. nuclear war doctrine
Have any Sailer-commentariat people seen the attention-getting new movie A House of Dynamite?
A House of Dynamite is flat and disappointing in all ways: as art, as political statement, as satire, as realistic documentary-type effort, as anything.
The movie makes nuclear war look boring!
If Sailer were still doing movie reviews
Steve Sailer has returned to movie-reviewing, for (the flat, disappointing, ‘dud’ of a nuclear-apocalypse movie called) A House of Dynamite:
The Vivek Ramaswmay argument is not about a gap between people with sub-par reading skills and people with good reading skills.
The Vivek Ramaswamy argument is more like:
RAMASWAMY: Americans out there who have good reading skills are LAZY. They need to focus! They need to spend 6 days a week cramming for spelling bees, for gameable standardized tests. Let’s go!
Because then, friends, the glorious future awaits. These shaped-up, ex-lazy Whites can put to use the skills, thus acquired, to scam people at large scale and to the tune of millions on fraudulent medical technologies followed by second careers as Fox News talking-heads that can skillfully recite bullet-pointed lists of anti-Wokeness positions.
The “thing” about Mamdani
For unknown reasons, Steve Sailer has yet to make a general commentary on Mamdani.
https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/mamdani-says-white-neighborhoods-should-pay-higher-taxes-nov-2025.pngReplies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Corvinus
Mamdani says "white neighborhoods" should pay higher property taxes
Egypt’s Grand Museum Is Finally Open. Now, ‘We Need Our Stuff Back.’
New York Times | Nov 6, 2025
The museum’s most anticipated exhibit is the full 5,500 items from King Tutankhamen’s tomb. Egyptians say it’s time to experience their most precious antiquities at home.
[...] The new Tutankhamen collection is the centerpiece of the Grand Egyptian Museum, a lavishly designed mega complex, with the Great Pyramids of Giza rising from the desert behind it. Decades in the making, the museum finally opened its doors to the public this week.
Its opening is a “gift from Egypt to the world,” Egypt’s president, Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, told the audience [...]
Steve Sailer:
Egypt wants back its ancient treasures like the bust of Nefertiti and the Rosetta stone from the museums of Europe. To counter the argument that Egypt lacked a suitable museum, they are the opening the magnificent Grand Egyptian Museum.
Good for them.
Also, why didn't today's Egyptians discover their own ancient artifacts?Replies: @Hail
Murphy Fowles [@FowlesMurphy]:
Ancient Egyptians are more genetically similar to Europeans than modern Egyptians.
Whose heritage is it really?
A Sailer supporter writes this on Egypt:
Went to the old Egyptian museum in Cairo in 2005 and felt sorry for its scammy decrepit turd world condition right from the ticket booth. Worse yet for visiting the pyramids and the sphinx. Cairo felt like the night of the living dead, worse than Manila or Santo Domingo. Egypt is a sh**hole country.
Isn’t NYC socio-political intelligence overrated?
Yes.
As well as its financial & global cultural stability & influence?
Less than it should be.
It would be perhaps good for the US that NYC enters into a period of real, not just superficial decline.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
I entertain this view sometimes, such as in my previous sentence.
The argument, variations of which I myself have advanced here, is that NYC doesn’t genuinely add value, either materially or morally, but it does impose large costs on the US. So deleting it would be a net benefit.
While I recognize that NYC, like any other major institution, is unlikely to change absent real and severe pain, I yet hesitate to prescribe the full Mamdani Pill: the-worse-the-better-type of accelerationist argument, for two reasons:
1) Just because something is a net liability doesn’t mean that it does not have assets within it. While elimination of the many and varied liabilities would be welcome, it would be a shame if that also meant losing the assets. Relatedly,
2) I strongly suspect that in reality the Mamdani Option will simply strengthen the liabilities, while letting the assets drift further into eclipse, so he won’t be The Final Solution to the New Amsterdam Question, but will merely make the problems worse and the Question more acute in every way.
Assets will move out of NYC.
While I recognize that NYC, like any other major institution, is unlikely to change absent real and severe pain, I yet hesitate to prescribe the full Mamdani Pill: the-worse-the-better-type of accelerationist argument, for two reasons:
1) Just because something is a net liability doesn’t mean that it does not have assets within it. While elimination of the many and varied liabilities would be welcome, it would be a shame if that also meant losing the assets. Relatedly,
2) I strongly suspect that in reality the Mamdani Option will simply strengthen the liabilities, while letting the assets drift further into eclipse, so he won’t be The Final Solution to the New Amsterdam Question, but will merely make the problems worse and the Question more acute in every way.
I feel great because I am at least 1/8 Norwegian-Swedish
DU GAMLA, DU FRIA
Du gamla, Du fria, Du fjällhöga Nord!
Du tysta, Du glädjerika sköna…Jag hälsar Dig, vänaste land uppå jord
Din sol, Din himmel, Dina ängder gröna!
Din sol, Din himmel, Dina ängder gröna!Du tronar på minnen från fornstora dar–
då ärat Ditt namn flög över jorden…Jag vet att Du är och förblir vad du var;
Ja, jag vill leva jag vill dö i Norden!
Ja, jag vill leva jag vill dö i Norden!
YOU ANCIENT, YOU FREE
You ancient, you free, you mountainous North!
You quiet, you joyous beauty…I greet [or “hail”] you, loveliest land upon Earth,
Your sun, your sky, your countryside green! (x2)You are enthroned upon memories of ancient days,
When, honored, your name flew across the Earth…I know that you are, and you will be, what you were,
Yes, I want to live, I want to die in the North! (x2)
DU GAMLA, DU FRIA
My apologies to all fans of correctness: I posted the "Du Gamla, Du Fria" lyrics limited to the widely-known, 'classic,' two-verse, version which is pan-Scandinavian (or easily adaptable considerably beyond Scandinavia The music, though, is from the widened four-verse version. I'll post here the four-verse version in Swedish and English, side-by-side.For those with total unfamiliarity with the languages of Scandinavia, you can confirm their close relation to English/German easily, by a simple exercise in comparing these (simple) lyrics line by line. It's quite possible, much of the time, to do full--on "word substitution," and with merely slightly altered words at that.You're going to have to do some work, though, by clicking "More": _________DU GAMLA, DU FRIA
YOU ANCIENT, YOU FREE
Steve Sailer endorses work-life balance, including for those doing things like “building the Atom Bomb”:
James Fishback:
We don’t want ANYONE lecturing us about Indian literacy rates or Chinese math rates. Cut the crap now. We’re Americans. We’re talented. We’re smart. And no, we’re not giving up church on Sunday for more math tutoring. We’re not skipping Friday Night Lights because there’s a chemistry test to cram for. The second we stop apologizing for who we are, we will start winning again!
James Blunt [social-media booster of Vivek For Ohio 2026 campaign]:
Americans didn’t build the Atom Bomb by prioritizing “work-life balance.”
Norm Matloff [retired professor of computer science, California; has published works back to 2003 arguing for the elimination of the H1B visa]:
Actually, the people at Los Alamos got weekends off, just like in normal jobs.
Steve Sailer:
My dad told me that at Lockheed during WWII, they did a study of how much work they could get out of people and found that total output declined past 52 hours per week.
Steve Sailer congratulates Egypt on finally opening a big ancient-history museum:
Egypt’s Grand Museum Is Finally Open. Now, ‘We Need Our Stuff Back.’
New York Times | Nov 6, 2025The museum’s most anticipated exhibit is the full 5,500 items from King Tutankhamen’s tomb. Egyptians say it’s time to experience their most precious antiquities at home.
[…] The new Tutankhamen collection is the centerpiece of the Grand Egyptian Museum, a lavishly designed mega complex, with the Great Pyramids of Giza rising from the desert behind it. Decades in the making, the museum finally opened its doors to the public this week.
Its opening is a “gift from Egypt to the world,” Egypt’s president, Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, told the audience […]
Steve Sailer:
Egypt wants back its ancient treasures like the bust of Nefertiti and the Rosetta stone from the museums of Europe. To counter the argument that Egypt lacked a suitable museum, they are the opening the magnificent Grand Egyptian Museum.
Good for them.
Murphy Fowles [@FowlesMurphy]:
Ancient Egyptians are more genetically similar to Europeans than modern Egyptians.
Whose heritage is it really?
Also, why didn’t today’s Egyptians discover their own ancient artifacts?
Replies: @EdwardM
Went to the old Egyptian museum in Cairo in 2005 and felt sorry for its scammy decrepit turd world condition right from the ticket booth. Worse yet for visiting the pyramids and the sphinx. Cairo felt like the night of the living dead, worse than Manila or Santo Domingo. Egypt is a sh**hole country.
science these days…has divided up into lots of esoteric subfields that only a few people in the world are interested in. And some of these subfields have been taken over by small cliques that referee and cite each other’s papers and reject outside criticism.
This applies beyond just science per se.
It’ss all, or nearly all, of that which is called academia.
How might a culture reverse such a problem?
Interesting to consider the case of the recently-deceased James Watson in this context.
subfields have been taken over by small cliques that referee and cite each other’s papers and reject outside criticism.
Does Steve “attack” people? Sounds out of character for him. Could you be lying again?Replies: @Hail
I believe Steve Sailer also took time to attack Nick Fuentes of all people in this Tucker interview.
Does Steve “attack” people?
I don’t think so.
The Blaze’s promo video for the Rufo & Lomez show:
“I think America has, for the first time in modern memory, a right-wing counter-culture.”
That line is from Ross Douthat, shown in the video. He is speaking about Lomez and Christopher Rufo (caveat: the latter has long been an activist for increasing the rate of Asian success in the name of fairness; so “right-wing” is, these days, far from necessarily “pro-White”).
Chances that this well-funded effort will pay for a round-trip Uber to take Steve Sailer to their studio and have him talk about his views on all things on the air, before the year 2025 is out: HIGH.
Abilene is the start of West Texas
ABILENE
nickname:
“The Friendly Frontier”
Metropolitan-area population in 2020: 176,600, with most in Taylor County (143,200) which contains Abilene.
Taylor County, Tx., race population in 2020:
– White: 61%
– Black: 7.5%
– Asian: 2%
– Amerind: 0.5%
– Multiracial: 4.5%
– Hispanic: 24.5%
In voting:
— Thru 1948, Taylor County returned huge D-majorities on the order of 90-10. (Except once: in 1928, when they swung from their baseline of around 90-10 D-R to 32-68 D-R. As many as two-thirds of normal D-voters there flocked to Hoover in 1928, refusing to vote for the Catholic Al Smith. Hoover even narrowly won the state of Texas 52-48, but then lost the state 11-88 in 1932).
— Generally voted 60-40 R-D between the 1950s and 1990s, the R realignment really beginning with Eisenhower and being an early harbinger of the later full-on party-reversal in “the South.”
— Increased to 75-25 R-D in 2000 and after. The 74% vote-share to Trump in 2024 is very high given the White population down to 61% (and far above the Texas statewide result 56-42 Trump-Kamala).
You can tell a lot about a given place by whether its vote-totals for president swung toward or away from Trump (vs the previous R-D voting baseline). Taylor County didn’t really move. Trump may have even lost ground (Bush-00: 74%; Bush-04: 77%; Trump elections: 73%, 72%, 74%), but that could be entirely a product of the race of voters changing.
“One of the good parts of the reviled peer review, by the way: not seldom do you end up being refereed by the author you’re citing, or at least his group. Then you better get it right.”
That’s not actually a good thing if the author and his group are promoting some nonsense and your paper is attempting to point out that they are all wrong.
One of the problems with science these days is that it has divided up into lots of esoteric subfields that only a few people in the world are interested in. And some of these subfields have been taken over by small cliques that referee and cite each other’s papers and reject outside criticism.
This applies beyond just science per se.
science these days...has divided up into lots of esoteric subfields that only a few people in the world are interested in. And some of these subfields have been taken over by small cliques that referee and cite each other’s papers and reject outside criticism.
Steve Sailer is looking to create a cultural-division line in Texas to demarcate where the South ends and the West begins:
Steve Sailer:
[T]he South probably doesn’t extend quite so far west in Texas. Dallas, like Orlando, is pretty generic Sunbelt rather than Southern.
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On the other hand, I’ve seen it argued that The South as a cultural region is growing in the 21st Century to include more of non-urban America than that, say, Garrison Keillor would have recognized as Southern 40 years ago. I don’t travel enough to have an opinion on that.
Rod Dreher:
When I lived in Dallas 20 yrs ago, the locals said the border between the South and the West was halfway between Dallas and Fort Worth. Don’t know if that still holds.
Steve Sailer:
Fascinating.
I’ve spent a few days in Fort Worth, but my main exposure to Dallas, rather than its corporate suburbs, was going to a reggae concert there in the 1980s, so that’s probably not representative.
Steve Sailer says demand exceeds supply for female geniuses; and late-20th-/21st-century feminists err in their theory of Western historical suppression of female genius:
The conventional wisdom is that Western culture was hostile to female geniuses and tried to cover up their accomplishments. But, in reality, Western Europeans often went nuts at the time over the kind of interesting but not terribly important women rediscovered by feminists.
For example, back around 1990 during the first political correctness frenzy, feminist English professors were celebrating books like “Frankenstein,” “Uncle Tom’s Cabin,” and “Gone With the Wind.”
“Gone With the Wind” got cancelled, but it really was praised in the late 1980s feminist English professors. And not at all unreasonably: on a scatterplot of quality of writing/plot vs. quantity of sales, it’s up in the top right corner.
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Artemisia Gentileschi [1593-1653, Italian painter, female] was a pretty big celebrity in her own day.
A lot of feminist humanities scholarship consisted of reviving the fame of formerly famous women. A not unworthy undertaking, but not like discovering wholly ignored geniuses.
There is a bias in favor of history remembering male artists, but it’s not misogyny so much as that men think more about “Who was the greatest of all time?” and women think more about “Who is the next big thing?” (Thus, gay men tend to keep alive the legends of old actresses.)
Do you think Sliwa cost Cuomo the election?
Many are watching to see whether Mamdani gets over 50.00% on final-certified results. It’s very close. But if he does dip below 50.00%, it’s still mathematically not likely all the Sliwa voters would’ve gone for Cuomo, as Not Vote is always also an option. OTOH, if Sliwa had gotten out and teamed up with Cuomo, it’d have changed the dynamic in yet more unpredictable ways.
This three-person-race dilemma is the entire point of “ranked-choice voting.” Why did the Democratic primary (which is generally the “real election”) in 2025 have ranked-choice voting but the general election didn’t?
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And, despite all the fanfare and global attention to this NYC mayor race, “consider this”:
– 7 million+ adults may be resident in NYC;
– 5.1 million supposedly are registered to vote.
– 2.08 million votes were cast for mayor in November 2025
– 2.80 million votes were cast in NYC for president in 2024.
On percent of total adult residents, that means under 30% voted for mayor in 2025. In such conditions, even small waves of momentum can carry someone far.
A lot of the “non-registered to vote” adults are foreigners ineligible to vote. That distorts the denominator in the calculation that yields <30% (who voted in this supposed "surge" election). That's part of the point: NYC is a place with a high opinion of itself (and the prices to match). But it is, in many ways, low on public-spiritedness. That's Diversity. NB: socialism cannot work absent public-spiritedness.
Previous mayoral elections were down nearer the 1-million-votes-cast mark for a few decades running. The last time the total was near 2 million were 1989 and 1993, Giuliani vs Dinkins both times, both close; won by Giuliani the second time.
That doesn't mean they know what they're doing. It sounds like a good place to experiment with economic theories, but after the simple Supply&Demand and Elasticity stuff, it's all a bunch of hooey. So amazon prices will fluctuate in an annoying manner, and the stupid fucks won't even let you read further reviews unless you're logged in now (no guest buying anymore).2) Mr. Sailer was probably right, even without any rigorous analysis, that the supposed great benefit of violent and insane Cuban immigration into Miami (thanks, Jimmah!) 45 years ago would not have all improved the economy without that Co-caine, runnin' all round my brain*. He mentioned Miami Vice and Scarface. I would add Cocaine Cowboys, a documentary. Wow, that place was flooded with so much cash! The Miami FED had more money than all the rest. The Cocaine Cowboys would buy expensive cars and airplanes like most Americans buy toilet paper..* It takes a clear mind to ___ke it. It takes a clear mind to take it, or a clear mind NOT to take it? It takes a clear mind to MAKE it. Haha, what's so funny?Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Hail
Why are economists well compensated? The number of private industry job openings for economists has grown significantly because the computerization of everything allows businesses to implement microeconomics theory for maximizing profits by just rewriting some code. Amazon, for example, now employs several hundred economists with Ph.D.s.
[Steve Sailer’s] latest Takimag column: What’s the Matter With Economists?.
Here is my own general comment on what Sailer was driving at, or alluding to, with that column-commentary:
Thinking more about Steve’s critique of this study, I think the lesson can be summarized as:
We have accumulated something of a broad, deep, and implicit bias today against Whites and against the the NW-European population-stock in particular.
This creates a mix of blindspots, taboos, and doublethink which can powerfully self-perpetuate while nevertheless being off-base. This force will lead to decline and can easily lead to anti-white manias (see: peak moments in Wokeness), and it goes without saying that it will lead towards implicit historical negationism of White NW-European achievement, virtues, strengths.
Still no word from Germ Theory since 10/29
The matter of Germ’s brother’s decline, cited by MEH 0910, is the most likely reason for his one week’s absence.
We wonder, What is his view on the Mamdani election?
I seem to recall him saying his brother was gravely ill...Replies: @MEH 0910
Yeah, six days absence from a forum wouldn’t be cause for concern for a commenter who wasn’t regularly encountering violent homeless people and mass shooters.
I seem to recall him saying his brother was gravely ill…
https://www.unz.com/isteve/isteve-open-thread-10/#comment-7281651 (#1392)
The Germ Theory of Disease says:
August 31, 2025 at 11:24 pm GMT • 2.2 months ago
[…]
I have to apologize for being a bit of a bit, lately: there are some dreadful things going on in the local, my older brother is kinda-sorta dying of a rare neurological disorder, and that’s not even the worst of it. But it sort of is for me, because he was my mentor in all sorts of ways, we made hilarious weird tape-deck sketch comedy together when we weren’t even ten yet, we made a “Billy Jack” parody on Super 8 before even the latest real “Billy Jack” parody of itself had even been released. Watching him slip away is kind of tearing me apart. I don’t know what I’m gonna do. But thankfully we do have a really strong family, so there’s always that.
The “thing” about Mamdani is:
He is a South Asian, of (something like) transnational-diasporic-elite origin, with extremely shallow ties to the United States.
The Mamdani family, afacit, has no meaningful ties to the US before the 2000s (!). (Although with transnational-diasporic elites like that, in the post-1970s USA, there are always some sort of distant cousins doing something, of which somehow the more clannish among us in the human race always seem to know well about.)
How can you be a true ideologue in a country where you are a foreigner? Maybe it’s occasionally possible, in theory. But more likely it’s the typical m.o. of South Asians in politics, and similar fields, all over the world: It is some degree of cover for their skill at “talking their way into” things. Slogans don’t mean that much, sort of done to “rile up” people to himself as he games a system and talks his way into power. (See also: Vivek Ramaswamy; and actually a long list of others.)
It’s not some amazing cosmic coincidence that these people happen to pop up as cool-outsider politicians who somehow walk into success all over the English-speaking world.
In other words, it would mean something a lot more profound if he had around sixteen U.S.-born great-great-grandparents and was pushing “Socialism.” A figure like the French communist Jean-Luc Melenchon.
The way Mamdani actually is — a non-American who does left-wing happy-talk people cheer over like some political equivalent of a sports team — I think people don’t take him very seriously as an ideologue per se. And that’s one way he came to embraced by the system and around 50% of NYC voters (far less, though, if counting actual Americans).
They have guys all over London preaching sharia and jihad. That's where New York is going after they ring fence a couple square miles around Wall Street. Democracy will give the people what they want good and hard.
How can you be a true ideologue in a country where you are a foreigner?
For unknown reasons, Steve Sailer has yet to make a general commentary on Mamdani.Replies: @Hail, @James B. Shearer, @Achmed E. Newman
The “thing” about Mamdani
The CNN exit poll has this, similar to the finding on Mamdani's decisive "foreign-born" support:__________[Exit Poll Q.] How long have you lived in NYC? Less than 5 years (7% of voters)
[Polling two weeks before the election]New York mayor 2025:
— Men: Mamdani +5
— Women: Mamdani +15— Native-born: Cuomo +9
— Foreign-born: Mamdani +38— Jews: Cuomo +33— Steve Sailer: Cuomo +100 (n=1) (inferred)
A lot of solidly blue places went blue, the spook who should be prevented from seeking office as a spook won in the CIA’s home state, big surprise.
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Principleless, inside baseball point: Hugh Hewitt will be rightly crowing that if the mass murderer could’ve had the vigilante’s splinter, he would have routed the communist.
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We’re in the boring muddy times where we have to trudge through the process and trust the law talkers (and endure the screaming and lying of idiots). This wasn’t that big of a deal. Mamdani’s reliance on non-American voters also totally validates everything we have been saying.
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The GOP will have to acknowledge that young people have legitimate property greivances no matter how much it hurts their millionaire feelings or the Democrats will drive a truck through that hole.
Lomez (Steve Sailer’s publisher and now publicity-man) and alleged pro-White activist Chris Rufo are “starting a weekly show with the Blaze this Friday.”
That line is from Ross Douthat, shown in the video. He is speaking about Lomez and Christopher Rufo (caveat: the latter has long been an activist for increasing the rate of Asian success in the name of fairness; so "right-wing" is, these days, far from necessarily "pro-White").
"I think America has, for the first time in modern memory, a right-wing counter-culture."
[Polling two weeks before the election]
New York mayor 2025:
— Men: Mamdani +5
— Women: Mamdani +15— Native-born: Cuomo +9
— Foreign-born: Mamdani +38— Jews: Cuomo +33
— Steve Sailer: Cuomo +100 (n=1) (inferred)
The CNN exit poll has this, similar to the finding on Mamdani’s decisive “foreign-born” support:
__________
[Exit Poll Q.] How long have you lived in NYC?
Less than 5 years (7% of voters)
— 85% Mamdani
5-10 years (8% of voters)
— 79% Mamdani
More than 10 years but not native (37% of voters)
— 54% Mamdani
Born in NYC (45% of voters)
— 38% Mamdani
[3% of voters, No response]
___________
If only those who’d lived in New York at least ten years (including those born in New York) had voted, Cuomo would probably have narrowly won. The exit poll’s numbers have it at 46-46-8 for just the 10-year-or-more resident set. In such a close-heat, maybe even more Sliwa voters would’ve gone to Cuomo.
Of course, if only Whites resident at least ten years had voted, it’d have been no contest and the non-American Sleek Smiley Muslim Candidate would’ve lost decisively.
___________
Jews, according to the exit poll, went 63% for Cuomo against 33% for Mamdani.
___________
A surprising (?) finding of the exit poll is that both Black males and Hispanic males went for Mamdani at a higher rate than the women of their same race. This is against the usual trend of females being more “Left”-voting. But the trend flips to the usual-expected pattern with Whites:
% voting for Mamdani
— White males: 43%
— White females: 48% [+5]
— Black males: 60%
— Black females: 52% [-8]
— Latino males: 52%
— Latin females: 48% [-4]
Still, these are not large gaps and may not even be real given sampling errors.
___________
The biggest gap, besides length-of-residence and ties to the USA (previously mentioned), is: Age.
White and Black support for Mamdani falls off a cliff above age 40 or 45. There is something like a 35-point gap between under-30s and over-45s.
On the numbers, it wouldn’t quite have been enough to defeat Mamdani if the voting-age were pegged to merely 25 rather than 18. But in practice it might have been enough as a good portion of the momentum would have disappeared.
A stricter naturalization policy, needless to say, would’ve also kept Mamdani out. (Read that two ways if you wish.)
That is totally disingenuous. PNAC members didn't just write a letter to Clinton. They staffed the Bush/Cheney administration in key roles at the Pentagon and in the Vice President's office. It was they and their allies that lobbied, cajoled, misrepresented, and lied for the invasion of Iraq right up through 2003 and beyond.
Fully aware of The Project for New American Century. And the letter they wrote to Clinton calling for overthrow of Saddam. We chose to acknowledge the pre-meditated nature of the invasion of Iraq through the energy commission and the maps of Iraqi oil fields…
Saying “it was just a letter a few people wrote” completely misses the point, of course.
The most charitable thing to say about person who’d say that: He doesn’t understand ideology generally, how “movements” work, influence-networks, political theory, international-relations theory, the foreign-policy elite, and the Israel Lobby and Jewish power generally, and the “intersections” of those things with the Republican Party in/by the 1990s, and with the Dubya Bush people.
There is a great superabundance of “McKays” out there. What’s interesting here is late-2010s Steve Sailer was saying “Hey, McKay, you’re wrong or you’re lying!”
Erik:[Steve Sailer's] flaccid innuendo based argument that the great error of American foreign policy was ultimately because of the Jews is unconvincing to me.[...] The reason a handful of Jewish neocons wanted Saddam taken out was not mysterious. They believed the weapons of mass destruction thing and also didn't want America to fade away as the global hegemon.Ultimately it was all psychological. We won the cold war. There was no big threat and a lot of sensible people wanted to cut the military down and focus on making life great for Americans. Some people couldn't deal with that. It's obvious that if America had done so, eventually (like way eventually) some other country would rise to fill the vacuum and some people fret over things like that even if they are 50 or 100 years away.The letter to Clinton about invading Iraq was purely because they perceived Saddam as defying us on the terms of agreement to end the first gulf war.
The Anti-Gnostic:Large Jewish presence in neoconservatism. It's like the Frankfurt school of the American Right. But I also recall the Iraq Wars were more motivated by this religious desire to have pluralistic secular democracy in the Middle East which as you observe will never work.There is a straight line from the Bush and Obama administrations reaching all the way into the present with the installation of the bizarrely retrograde "President" of Syria, who's now the toast of the town.
Erik:There is a strange belief/delusion shared by the right and left that in the absence of some outside force actively preventing it, all cultures around the world would naturally adopt Western enlightenment values and forms of government.
SJ:That form of Utopianism seems to be the unique contribution of the formerly Trotskyist intellectual Jews who became the first neocons, although it has some similarity with Wilsonian democracy.
The Anti-Gnostic: From my perspective, the West seems engaged in a frantic struggle to prove the Enlightenment was right and Erik Voegelin and Carl Schmitt were wrong.
____________On the change in public figures evident since Cheney's 1970s--2000s career and these current 2020s:
The Last Real Calvinist:It goes all the way back to the Garden of Eden -- 'You shall be as gods'.The desire for some substantial proportion of humanity to rebel against their Creator by trying to usurp His plan of salvation -- i.e. to decide that *they* can just go ahead and save the world [...]
The midpoint of Cheney's career, between first major position (White House deputy chief of staff, Dec 1974) and last major position (vice president, to 11:59pm, Jan 20, 2009):Around New Year's Day 1991. The Donald Trump Board Game had just been released (in stores for Christmas 1990? Or was it a year earlier?).Replies: @Hail
The Anti-Gnostic: Cheney was also among the last of the professional political class that I thought of as "over my head," so to speak. I may have disagreed with Rumsfeld or Cheney, but they seemed like magisterial individuals who merited Cabinet posts. Savvy, decisive, big-picture managers. Same for the very sharp individuals in the Reagan administration.Clinton had some notables, with the traditional WASPy or WASP-adjacent ties to BigLaw or BigBank.It's been downhill since and now I think most public figures are performative or downright dim. [...]
rry, that should be “around New Year’s Day 1992”; and “to 11:59 AM” on the Obama inauguration day in 2009.
But we could easily also extend Cheney’s public career to late 1969, when, according to wiki, Rumsfeld first hired him as a junior person in Washington. That gives us a 39-year span for Cheney in a public career in or around government, from earliest-entry to last-exit (though with intervening time in the private sector).
By that count, the chronological midpoint of Dick Cheney’s career would be about the spring of 1989, pre-Fall of Communism.
But by still another count, if we omit from the calculation the years Cheney was out of government and in the private sector, we’d have to say:
The chronological midpoint of Dick Cheney’s career was in the mid-1980s.
And then there he comes on the scene in 2000-2001, entering the ‘Dubya’ Bush White House, turning age 60 ten days after the inauguration. Sixty: an age at which men no longer much change and in many cases can lose the courage for self-introspection; an age at which, in other words, a man can become “committed to the past.” (The Israel Lobby people will have liked Cold War-holdover Cheney very much, as it gave them cover.)
A possible extension of the Dick Cheney political career is through the political career of his daughter, Liz Cheney, who entered the scene in the mid-2010s. ]
Liz Cheney was in Congress three terms, famously losing renomination in 2022 for supporting the Trump impeachment and other such things, which exactly follows what her father was saying and would have done. The same goes for both Cheneys endorsing Kamala in 2024, with Liz Cheney even campaigning for her. I believe Liz Cheney became a fixture on MSNBC by some point, not sure when but certainly so in the 2020s.
McKay utterly bypasses the one interesting mystery still surrounding Dick Cheney’s career: What happened in the 1990s following Cheney’s impressive performance as George H.W. Bush’s Secretary of Defense that then led to his disastrous years as George W. Bush’s veep? Why did the man who prudently sided with GHWB to not go to Baghdad in 1991 fanatically encourage GWB to go to Baghdad in 2003?McKay never even raises this question.
Yes, Classic Sailer commentary. If you delve back into the archives in the 2000s, the commentary is quite steadily like this.Replies: @Hail, @Mr. Anon, @Hypnotoad666
And, as far as I can recall, McKay doesn’t even mention the word “neoconservative” in his movie, even though both Mr. and Mrs. Cheney were affiliated with the neocon American Enterprise Institute from 1993.AEI had long been a worthy but dull advocate of Chamber of Commerce conservatism, delivering many a comprehensive study of worker’s-comp reform. But it discovered that there was more donor money in agitating for war with Israel’s enemies. Over the course of the 1990s, neocons at AEI and elsewhere became obsessed with taking out Saddam.On Twitter on Sunday, McKay defended his plot, saying he’d substituted big oil for the neocons:But, in reality, the oil companies weren’t terribly enthusiastic for the Iraq War before it happened and didn’t profit much from it later. Instead of No War for Oil, we got War for No Oil.But for the preservation of one’s Hollywood career, it’s better to blame the energy industry. This might explain an otherwise puzzling speech in Vice in which McKay implies that Israel, like France and Germany, was against the war.
Fully aware of The Project for New American Century. And the letter they wrote to Clinton calling for overthrow of Saddam. We chose to acknowledge the pre-meditated nature of the invasion of Iraq through the energy commission and the maps of Iraqi oil fields…
Who was responsible for the Iraq war of 2003?
Sailer-Substack discussion highlight:
Erik:
[Steve Sailer’s] flaccid innuendo based argument that the great error of American foreign policy was ultimately because of the Jews is unconvincing to me.[…] The reason a handful of Jewish neocons wanted Saddam taken out was not mysterious. They believed the weapons of mass destruction thing and also didn’t want America to fade away as the global hegemon.
Ultimately it was all psychological. We won the cold war. There was no big threat and a lot of sensible people wanted to cut the military down and focus on making life great for Americans. Some people couldn’t deal with that. It’s obvious that if America had done so, eventually (like way eventually) some other country would rise to fill the vacuum and some people fret over things like that even if they are 50 or 100 years away.
The letter to Clinton about invading Iraq was purely because they perceived Saddam as defying us on the terms of agreement to end the first gulf war.
The Anti-Gnostic:
Large Jewish presence in neoconservatism. It’s like the Frankfurt school of the American Right. But I also recall the Iraq Wars were more motivated by this religious desire to have pluralistic secular democracy in the Middle East which as you observe will never work.
There is a straight line from the Bush and Obama administrations reaching all the way into the present with the installation of the bizarrely retrograde “President” of Syria, who’s now the toast of the town.
Erik:
There is a strange belief/delusion shared by the right and left that in the absence of some outside force actively preventing it, all cultures around the world would naturally adopt Western enlightenment values and forms of government.
SJ:
That form of Utopianism seems to be the unique contribution of the formerly Trotskyist intellectual Jews who became the first neocons, although it has some similarity with Wilsonian democracy.
The Anti-Gnostic:
From my perspective, the West seems engaged in a frantic struggle to prove the Enlightenment was right and Erik Voegelin and Carl Schmitt were wrong.
The Last Real Calvinist:
It goes all the way back to the Garden of Eden — ‘You shall be as gods’.
The desire for some substantial proportion of humanity to rebel against their Creator by trying to usurp His plan of salvation — i.e. to decide that *they* can just go ahead and save the world […]
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On the change in public figures evident since Cheney’s 1970s–2000s career and these current 2020s:
The Anti-Gnostic:
Cheney was also among the last of the professional political class that I thought of as “over my head,” so to speak. I may have disagreed with Rumsfeld or Cheney, but they seemed like magisterial individuals who merited Cabinet posts. Savvy, decisive, big-picture managers. Same for the very sharp individuals in the Reagan administration.
Clinton had some notables, with the traditional WASPy or WASP-adjacent ties to BigLaw or BigBank.
It’s been downhill since and now I think most public figures are performative or downright dim. […]
The midpoint of Cheney’s career, between first major position (White House deputy chief of staff, Dec 1974) and last major position (vice president, to 11:59pm, Jan 20, 2009):
Around New Year’s Day 1991.
The Donald Trump Board Game had just been released (in stores for Christmas 1990? Or was it a year earlier?).
It’s possible what was so controversial about the “pornographic outfit” is that Sydney Sweeney was being cast as innocent. So there is a subtext in some of this commentary that is not about the clothes per se.
As Pericles mentioned in another comment, in 2015-16 Taylor Swift was being cast in the exact same way: a secretly pro-Trump-2016, deport-the-migrants, pro-White-family person. The USA has needed such symbols for a long time, and so far in this century has increasingly felt their absence. The casting of Taylor Swift ten years ago as a pro-Trump, pro-White, pro-Family girl was always wishful thinking, but it wasn’t random.
See: Sydney Sweeney biographic-timeline.
For casting into such as a role as I describe there, Sweeney is probably less-qualified and less-suited overall than was Taylor Swift ten years ago.
– Taylor Swift: born Dec 1989.
– Sydney Sweeney: born Sept 1997.
Taylor Swift was a child in the 1990s and grew into a young woman in the 2000s. Sydney Sweeney was a child in the 2000s and grew into a young woman in the 2010s. There are probably many important differences between them other than their ages. It does seem the late-2000s-to-mid-2010s was worse, as a formative-period for a White woman in the USA, than the late-1990s-to-mid-2000s.
– Taylor Swift 6th birthday: Dec 1995
– Taylor Swift 19th birthday: Dec 2008
– Sydney Sweeney 6th birthday: Sept 2003
– Sydney Sweeney 19th birthday: Sept 2016
In that vein, see his obituary on Dick Cheney today
That, along with his opposition to high levels of immigration, shows that at one time he really did oppose the “invade the world/ invite the world” policies of the political establishment.
Steve’s comments on the death of Dick Cheney are a great example of some of his former positions (“Classic Sailer”).
He bashes “neocons” (a term I don’t recall him using much lately) but doesn’t stop in there: He says Israel and its Lobby were a/the(?) cause of the foolish adventurist-interventions associated with Cheney and the wider era; AND he says a Hollywood conspiracy of silence shields Jews , in the movie’s case claiming they were innocent victims blindsided, shocked by Bald Man Bad warmongering.
None of that is, however, from 2025-Sailer. He quoting himself writing sometime around the turn of the year 2018-19 about a Cheney movie by someone called McKay:
McKay utterly bypasses the one interesting mystery still surrounding Dick Cheney’s career: What happened in the 1990s following Cheney’s impressive performance as George H.W. Bush’s Secretary of Defense that then led to his disastrous years as George W. Bush’s veep? Why did the man who prudently sided with GHWB to not go to Baghdad in 1991 fanatically encourage GWB to go to Baghdad in 2003?
McKay never even raises this question.
And, as far as I can recall, McKay doesn’t even mention the word “neoconservative” in his movie, even though both Mr. and Mrs. Cheney were affiliated with the neocon American Enterprise Institute from 1993.
AEI had long been a worthy but dull advocate of Chamber of Commerce conservatism, delivering many a comprehensive study of worker’s-comp reform. But it discovered that there was more donor money in agitating for war with Israel’s enemies. Over the course of the 1990s, neocons at AEI and elsewhere became obsessed with taking out Saddam.
On Twitter on Sunday, McKay defended his plot, saying he’d substituted big oil for the neocons:
Fully aware of The Project for New American Century. And the letter they wrote to Clinton calling for overthrow of Saddam. We chose to acknowledge the pre-meditated nature of the invasion of Iraq through the energy commission and the maps of Iraqi oil fields…
But, in reality, the oil companies weren’t terribly enthusiastic for the Iraq War before it happened and didn’t profit much from it later. Instead of No War for Oil, we got War for No Oil.
But for the preservation of one’s Hollywood career, it’s better to blame the energy industry. This might explain an otherwise puzzling speech in Vice in which McKay implies that Israel, like France and Germany, was against the war.
Yes, Classic Sailer commentary. If you delve back into the archives in the 2000s, the commentary is quite steadily like this.
Erik:[Steve Sailer's] flaccid innuendo based argument that the great error of American foreign policy was ultimately because of the Jews is unconvincing to me.[...] The reason a handful of Jewish neocons wanted Saddam taken out was not mysterious. They believed the weapons of mass destruction thing and also didn't want America to fade away as the global hegemon.Ultimately it was all psychological. We won the cold war. There was no big threat and a lot of sensible people wanted to cut the military down and focus on making life great for Americans. Some people couldn't deal with that. It's obvious that if America had done so, eventually (like way eventually) some other country would rise to fill the vacuum and some people fret over things like that even if they are 50 or 100 years away.The letter to Clinton about invading Iraq was purely because they perceived Saddam as defying us on the terms of agreement to end the first gulf war.
The Anti-Gnostic:Large Jewish presence in neoconservatism. It's like the Frankfurt school of the American Right. But I also recall the Iraq Wars were more motivated by this religious desire to have pluralistic secular democracy in the Middle East which as you observe will never work.There is a straight line from the Bush and Obama administrations reaching all the way into the present with the installation of the bizarrely retrograde "President" of Syria, who's now the toast of the town.
Erik:There is a strange belief/delusion shared by the right and left that in the absence of some outside force actively preventing it, all cultures around the world would naturally adopt Western enlightenment values and forms of government.
SJ:That form of Utopianism seems to be the unique contribution of the formerly Trotskyist intellectual Jews who became the first neocons, although it has some similarity with Wilsonian democracy.
The Anti-Gnostic: From my perspective, the West seems engaged in a frantic struggle to prove the Enlightenment was right and Erik Voegelin and Carl Schmitt were wrong.
____________On the change in public figures evident since Cheney's 1970s--2000s career and these current 2020s:
The Last Real Calvinist:It goes all the way back to the Garden of Eden -- 'You shall be as gods'.The desire for some substantial proportion of humanity to rebel against their Creator by trying to usurp His plan of salvation -- i.e. to decide that *they* can just go ahead and save the world [...]
The midpoint of Cheney's career, between first major position (White House deputy chief of staff, Dec 1974) and last major position (vice president, to 11:59pm, Jan 20, 2009):Around New Year's Day 1991. The Donald Trump Board Game had just been released (in stores for Christmas 1990? Or was it a year earlier?).Replies: @Hail
The Anti-Gnostic: Cheney was also among the last of the professional political class that I thought of as "over my head," so to speak. I may have disagreed with Rumsfeld or Cheney, but they seemed like magisterial individuals who merited Cabinet posts. Savvy, decisive, big-picture managers. Same for the very sharp individuals in the Reagan administration.Clinton had some notables, with the traditional WASPy or WASP-adjacent ties to BigLaw or BigBank.It's been downhill since and now I think most public figures are performative or downright dim. [...]
That is totally disingenuous. PNAC members didn't just write a letter to Clinton. They staffed the Bush/Cheney administration in key roles at the Pentagon and in the Vice President's office. It was they and their allies that lobbied, cajoled, misrepresented, and lied for the invasion of Iraq right up through 2003 and beyond.
Fully aware of The Project for New American Century. And the letter they wrote to Clinton calling for overthrow of Saddam. We chose to acknowledge the pre-meditated nature of the invasion of Iraq through the energy commission and the maps of Iraqi oil fields…
Whoa! Why is Respectable 2025 Steve "platforming" this Groyper 2019 Steve? This seems highly Anti-Semitic. I expect The Task Force to Combat Anti-Semitism will now require Steve to denounce and deplatform himself. They'd probably cut him some slack if they knew he was Jewish. But if 2025 Steve does need to self-denounce, he can use the same template used by the Heritage guy who was denounced for failing to denounce Tucker for not denouncing Fuentes:
But for the preservation of one’s Hollywood career, it’s better to blame the energy industry. This might explain an otherwise puzzling speech in Vice in which McKay implies that Israel, like France and Germany, was against the war.
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[2025 Steve] also said that he was not familiar with [2019 Steve]’s views when he posted . . . “I didn’t know much about this [2019 Steve] guy. I still don’t, which underscores the mistake,” . . . . <a href='https://www.nationalreview.com/news/heritage-president-apologizes-for-tucker-carlson-defense-video-in-heated-all-hands-meeting/
Personally, it seems to me that it should be worse to independently conclude that Jews are a "venomous coalition" rather than just relying on the general consensus of society (i.e., the trope). But I suppose the humiliation rituals applicable to non-performing Shabbos Goy have their own Talmudic logic or something. Anyway . . . Fuentes gave an interesting name-check to Steve in his monologue again. While telling his supporters that they need to infiltrate the institutions while hiding their true beliefs he cites "Steve Sailer," "Joe Lonsdale," and "Chris Buskirk" (the last two guys I never heard of) as good examples of the type of masks you need to wear to pretend to be a card-carrying member of Conservatism, Inc. (Also, choice words for the new Lomez and Chris Rufo show being rolled out to appeal to Gen Z, Curtis Yarvin and assorted others).https://rumble.com/v718mss-america-first-ep.-1591.html?start=11946Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
He did, however, apologize to Heritage’s Jewish staffers for using the term “venomous coalition” to describe Carlson’s critics, saying that he was not consciously employing an antisemitic trope.“The term ‘venomous coalition,’ a terrible choice of words, especially for our Jewish colleagues and friends who understand that, given history, to be a trope used against them. And I very sincerely — very, very, sincerely — apologize to you in particular, and to all of you for using that. It was not my intention to use a trope. I should have been better,” he said.
Your point on the Strong Dollar is good, Mr Newman. Let me add some other factors, many intangible:-Goodwill towards White-Western people generally:
The last century probably, and maybe you could go back a lot longer, was a fine time for [Americans abroad]...because the US $ has been KING.
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All these things can be seen in White-Christian missionaries (especially Protestant missionaries) active in many parts of the world in the 19th and 20th centuries.
They have enjoyed great prestige. But how? It’s not because of money they themselves flash around and spend. Mission-efforts and protocols differed but many of them outright didn’t have much money to work with, and lived in humble circumstances.
Missionaries with more money would not spend it setting up miniature Mar-a-Lagos.
What White-Christian missionaries would do, given extra money/resources, is funnel it into pro-social projects for local people, basically; and maybe such things as scholarship about local history, cultures, languages. This is shocking to many low-trust people out there, as they know their own people would generally not do such things.
The last century probably, and maybe you could go back a lot longer, was a fine time for [Americans abroad]…because the US $ has been KING.
Your point on the Strong Dollar is good, Mr Newman.
Let me add some other factors, many intangible:
-Goodwill towards White-Western people generally:
— “The market” (of global ordinary people) tends to recognize Westerners as a positive social-good who build and leave things better rather than seek to grab and take;
— Association with the Christian religion. (Not Muslim; not Jewish; nor provincial, closed, or secret religions.)
— Full-White Westerners being known to be core-formative members of the world’s strongest and best civilization (not only “associated” with it).
Goodwill towards White Americans in particular, in many eras, places, or contexts. This due to:
— Historic perceived magnanimity of Americans abroad, and
— Traditional neutrality in foreign policy (holding almost always and everywhere in the 19th century and holding mostly through the mid-20th century, with important overtones remaining to the end of the 20th century).
— Benefitting from various European imperial policies and scooping up the benefits of being White without the stigma of being seen as imperial. (This fades from relevance in the mid-20th century but was an important baseline in getting trends started.)
Awe or respect for American power:
— — Americans (and others from what were once called “the Powers”) beingunderstood to be associated with a strong power which, while magnanimous, can also project its power and, if Americans are mistreated, the home-power can and will intervene.(which was true back during the Long 19th-century neutrality period, too) .
All these things go a long way. While correlated in many sorts of ways with money, necessarily so, these things also transcend money. In other words, even a respectable White-Westerner with relatively minimal money can ride along on this prestige.
Steve Sailer asks if a trend of U.S. citizens moving to Mexico involves White Eat-Pray-Love women or Mexicans returning home. He declares the latter far preferable:
(He is now experimenting with a “Read all the comments but only post comments if you are a paying member” model):
MEXICO VS. POLAND
Should gringas move to Mexico City or Warsaw?by Steve Sailer
Nov 02, 2025
Steve Sailer spoke favorably of the pro-Western Ukraine rebels who stormed Maidan Square in early 2014, with one hundred of their men killed in the melee but the bloodshed enough to break the will of the security forces in the moment, and the massacre radicalizing others to make moves to seize various arsenals, which were at real risk of falling in western Ukraine, and general civil war to begin. But the pro-Western rebels bold actions of the day largely settled the matter.
Sailer was impressed by these events. He was, hereafter in 2014, sympathetic to the pro-Ukraine militias battling it out with the pro-Russia separatists. In that more-innocent year of 2014 (and into 2015 before the first general cease-fire), the professional-military elements generally didn’t drive events. There was something spontaneous, exciting, and interesting about the crisis — if only it had been brief and resolved amicably. War is such a bad idea because it tends to turn into the kind of cruel slog that the Ukraine War has now been for almost four years. You never know which way things will go, when you start a war. (@ Donald Trump and @ Pete Hegseth…)
Pro-Russia voices like to back-date heavy U.S. involvement in Ukraine. But the deep- and public-politicization of the thing comes considerably after 2014. Sailer (being not privy to secret communications in the state Dept, or something) was just reacting to events of the moment and fulfilling his commentating duties.
Few, I think, foresaw the tragedy of Ukraine that the next ten-plus years had in store. At that time, in 2014, the Ukraine political crisis that had begun in late 2013 looked a lot like many other political crises of post-1990 memory in Ukraine, and similar to others in other parts of Eastern Europe.
One question I’d pose here, so many years later:
What inspired Sailer’s pro-Ukraine views in 2014?
Generally speaking, Americans had no particular strong opinions on Ukraine before 2014. I’ve suggested already, above, why Sailer may have gotten interested in the moment. It was exciting and the pro-West Ukrainians were easy to cast as the good guys, based on how things looked at the time. There was, in 2014, little or no real prospect of “U.S. involvement” in the crisis. So that element was absent.
Another possibility: the rebels in Ukraine during that crisis were pro-Western, with a radical edge, the kind which, if in power in any Western country with “immigration” problems, would’ve taken all measures possible towards mass-deportation or even revocation of citizenships to local equivalents of your Ilhan Omars and such.
The early militias were largely drawn from pro-Western groups with racialist attitudes, who’d say things like: Liberate Ukraine from Russia; and Liberate the West from Wokeness (to apply anachronistic labels on the thing).
The kind of radical edge the Ukraine rebels of ca.2014 had was one which, Sailer may have felt, Western countries themselves would do well to have more of in the 1990s, 2000s, or 2010s.
The lack of any kind of non-stigmatized White-racialist element in core-NATO Western Europe was a phenomenon U.S.-supervised and U.S.-enforced, to be honest. And because of that U.S.-enforced lack of an effective (or legally allowed) racialist element, the “immigration” problems were allowed to (encouraged to?) balloon out of control.
In that reading, 2014-Ukraine’s cause was our cause. Granted that conditions in the early 2020s were not the conditions of the early 2010s, and the deep politicization of Ukraine within the U.S. in the years after 2014 may be said to fundamentally change things, and the Ukraine-Russia War of these last years is a “proxy war.” But in this comment I’ve cast things back to 2014 and not the more-recent unpleasantness.
AFAIK, Steve has never departed from say, FOX News, when it comes to foreign policy. He doesn't seem to have any source of information outside of the mainstream and just toes the Deep State line on everything. I haven't read him forever, but if anyone has a counter-example from the olden days I'd be curious to see.Replies: @kaganovitch, @Dmon
One question I’d pose here, so many years later:
What inspired Sailer’s pro-Ukraine views in 2014?
This is, in two words, apologist bullshit.It took about 90 seconds to confirm that on December 9, 2014, for example, TUR published https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/dont-risk-war-with-russia/, in which Phil Giraldi called it all out, front-to-back and side-to-side. Sailer brought his Noticing act here several months later and has been looking the other way when not rooting for Uncle Sam ever since.Replies: @Greta Handel
Pro-Russia voices like to back-date heavy U.S. involvement in Ukraine. But the deep- and public-politicization of the thing comes considerably after 2014. Sailer (being not privy to secret communications in the state Dept, or something) was just reacting to events of the moment and fulfilling his commentating duties.Few, I think, foresaw the tragedy of Ukraine that the next ten-plus years had in store. At that time, in 2014, the Ukraine political crisis that had begun in late 2013 looked a lot like many other political crises of post-1990 memory in Ukraine, and similar to others in other parts of Eastern Europe.
There you go again, putting words in other people's mouths again. Neither Curle nor I said any such thing.
You and him agree that Vance marrying a Hindu is “anti-white” (whatever that means).
This site has a “Commenters to Ignore” feature. It is above #1 in each reply thread.
I blocked Corvinus years ago for trolling. They/them have nothing to offer.
PEACE 😇
Barron Trump: Don't know about Brimelow, but Kevin MacDonald and The Occidental Observer are UBER BASED.And I'll add Jared Taylor and American Renaissance too.
Young Otis:Hey Tylers, instead of the Conservative, Inc. drivel from controlled-opposition globalist salad-tosser Victor Davis Hanson, how about some articles from Peter Brimelow?
Many commented that it was foolish of Brimelow to "incorporate" VDare in New York. I know PB has addressed this criticism in the past. I either never understood his explanation or didn't buy it somehow. But I can't remember what his reasons for incorporating in New York were, or his justifications after the fact (after the mortal wounding of VDare and ultimately is closure of operations in mid-2024). Anyone?Replies: @deep anonymous, @res
Delmar Jackson:Peter Brimlow and Vdare is great. I learned more about immigration from that site than the rest of the Internet and the mainstream media combined. I don't agree with everything all of their contributors wrote over the years, but then I don't agree with everything on National Public Radio either. Immigration is the national question. Demographics is permanent.
My recollection of Brimelow’s explanation is a follows:
VDare first was incorporated by an attorney friend (who may have been working pro bono) who was based in New York and practiced law there. Its incorporation as an educational non-profit corporation happened years before the TDS insanity and the explosion of Democratic lawfare, which at that time were inconceivable. The problem Brimelow and company did not foresee is that apparently, an educational non-profit corporation incorporated in New York cannot move its domicile to another state without the express permission of New York. So once Letitia James waddled into power, VDare was a sitting duck.
According to Brimelow, several competent attorneys carefully set up the Castle deal, and all thought it was perfectly above board. (You probably will recall that VDare repeatedly had its conferences cancelled at the last minute when Democratic oriented groups (e.g. the SPLC and the rest of the anti-White hatred complex) threatened violence, and the managers of the facilities caved.) But pigbitch James issued a relentless and perpetual series of deeply intrusive subpoenas, claiming she was investigating self-dealing by the Brimelows. One of the purposes of the subpoenas was to pry open the identities of VDares donors and writers, most of whom were anonymous/pseudonymous. In any event, compliance with the onslaught basically depleted VDare’s coffers almost entirely, which was the whole point.
I tend to believe Brimelow’s version. (I understand board contributor Nicholas Stix had a falling out with Brimelow and basically hates him. I know nothing about their beef and have no comment about it. Stix claims that Brimelow was dishonorable, at least to him, but as far as I know, he has been silent about the lawfare conducted against VDare by the NY AG Office.) The legal profession and, unfortunately, the courts (especially in New York) are hopelessly corrupted and cannot be depended upon to pursue anything resembling justice. The VDare case is a perfect example.
Thanks, deep anonymous.
VDare is notable in part for being “ahead of its time” on immigration-restriction. That’s now a mainstream position (even if, IMO, iti’s being bungled to an extent by the Trump people, who should be focusing on it a lot more, but are being dragged down by grandiose narcissism and distractions).
The incorporation of VDare in New York was a case of not being ahead of its time.
There was plenty of precedent for harassment of well-spoken, immigration-restriction, pro-White voices by the time VDare was founded in 2000. I’m not sure how much a lag between its founding, supposedly Dec 31, 1999, and its “incorporation.” This oversight was avoidable.
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My view is: VDare is a direct product of a late-1990s “moment” of the U.S. Right, when it purged of many of its most interesting and bold people, for Racism. (Many of these people were quasi-maligned by being called “Paleoconservatives,” as if living fossils, calling up images of paleontology although ostensibly a flipping of the label “Neoconservative.”)
Establishment Conservatism as of the mid-1990s into the late-1990s had people like Joe Sobran and Sam Francis; it had relatively hardline immigration-restrictionists like Peter Brimelow, and Pat Buchanan; and it had Steve Sailer and others like him. In the late 1990s, a wide range of people were banned and spun off in new directions in the 2000s. This absolutely includes Sailer (regardless of what he says).
We might be able to book-end the Conservative Purge phenomenon to between ca. 1995 and ca. 2015 at the tail-end, although the biggest events happened in the late-1990s period and regular purges thereafter were simply more human-sacrifices to a Regime diversity-ideology cult. One reason the purges after 2015 could happen to the radical extent they did was there was already over 20 years’ precedent even for purging the Steve Sailers and Peter Brimelows, and so the Charlottesville marchers of 2017 could easily be cast as something like satanic, so far beyond the pale as to be off the chart.
The Purge period (against any trace of Racism on the Right) is the origin of this little discussion-community, fwiw, even though many of the key events happened decades before people found this place. Ron Unz was too much of a renegade and independent actor to be included too directly in the Purge narrative, but he weaved himself in and out of the milieu often, such as his leading role with The American Conservative (a publication founded as a reaction to the purges). He invited Sailer to blog here starting, I believe, in mid-2014, at which time Sailer was still banned across the board in respectable media. The entire Unz Review project feels like it is a reaction to the Conservative Purges of tat 1995-2015 period as much as it was a reaction against the Left or the “liberal media” or something.
VDare was up and running by 2000i It was relatively easy to simply stumble across on the open-Internet days of the 2000s. I bet a fair portion of Steve Sailer’s momentum in the 2000s traced to people finding him via VDare. But the stigmitization of VDare was certainly active even then.
The fuller ghettoization, delegitimization, deboosting, blacklisting and brownlisting, and eventually outright deplatforming (including being banned from credit-card processing and web-hosting and that kind of thing), came later, and VDare had many years’ warning before the Black attorney general of New York began her outright harassment campaign.
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I have a late-2010s memory of Peter Brimelow in Washington, during some event he was trying to run. A plan had been organized to get people to and from the venue secretly, in group. Leftists were trying to find them and crash the party. PB and others had taken to adapting tactics from radical groups the world over: concealing movements, misdirection, semi-secret communication. Just to try to pull off hosting a small conference, during the disappointing Trump-I presidency. That, years before the legal harassment by the attorney general of New York. He had plenty of warning.
On the other hand, maybe VDare had run its course? It was something bold in the early 2000s that filled a valuable space otherwise abandoned by the Bob Doles, the Cheneys, the “maverick” McCains, the post-purge National Review, and certainly the Dubya Bushes that lingered around the scene. But the situation by the early 2020s had chanegd a lot, and VDare if anything looked moderate.
It was in 2016 that Peter Brimelow tried hard to pivot towards being a conference-holding organization, along with the sudden success of the “Alt-Right” (which he helped popularize, after Hillary denounced the Alt-Right by name around August 2016). Because of highly unfavorable political conditions at the time, the attempt to convert VDare into something of a normal policy organization (a radical, pro-White, morally serious one), the late-2010s attempt to reposition VDare didn’t really work out.
All the Alt-Right groups imploded. The last few lingering into the 2020s but nothing much survived as effective political-action groups. What survived were tendencies, which predated the mid-2010s in any case, and which get coopted by the Trump thing and by a generalized, go-nowhere, resentment-politics which really is too dumbed-down to be long-run successful. (One can get a good feel for what that is by watching Fox News for any length of time, but it is far wider than just one news channel, even one that staffs such a big share of the Trump-II government.)
In great part the failure to convert the big breakthroughs of the mid-2010s into something more stable, something more attractive (beyond the troll element seeking entertainment), and something morally serious, was because so much of it was amateur hour. After decades in the wilderness, something of a more-racialist Right had no institutions to tap into, beyond some Internet-centric demagogues, and an extremely-lucky, orange-haired, sui generis doofus.
Peter Brimelow, Richard Spencer, and others had the right instincts in the late 2010s, but conditions were not favorable. To the extent that move had failed by about 2019, VDare had no choice but to retreat as the 2020s opened towards a baseline of what it had been around the 2000s! Then came the opportunistic lawsuits.
VDare bought its “castle” in February 2020, it seems. Just week before the Lockdowns and the serious disruptions of the period 2020-2022. The purchase of the castle was specifically to try to keep event-hosting alive, as a rallying-point.
But a “castle” in West Virginia is not any kind of suitable place to have such a property. (In a better world, a group like VDare would have prime real estate in downtown Washington, or somewhere like that.) So the castle feels like an attempt both to keep the late-2010s dream alive and a retreat from that dream.
The VDare-denouement and ultimate closure in mid-2024, although apparently completely induced by the legal harassment from New York, could also be seen as a reflection of VDare’s failure to get out of the wilderness in the 2010s (through no fault of its own).
Ron Unz himself was purged as publisher of The American Conservative in 2013, some time after trying to submit an article about race and crime in America.
Ron Unz was too much of a renegade and independent actor to be included too directly in the Purge narrative, but he weaved himself in and out of the milieu often, such as his leading role with The American Conservative (a publication founded as a reaction to the purges).
https://www.unz.com/runz/race-and-crime-in-america/
Why The American Conservative Purged Its Own Publisher
Ron Unz • May 29, 2018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Unz#Writing_and_publishing
Race and Crime in America
The unspoken statistical reality of urban crime over the last quarter century.
Ron Unz • July 20, 2013
https://web.archive.org/web/20190419120837/https://www.nationalreview.com/2013/08/american-conservative-unfused-betsy-woodruff/
An investor in The American Conservative, he was its publisher from 2007 to 2013.[38] He also contributed opinion articles on topics such as immigration, the minimum wage, and urban crime.[17] In an email leaked to National Review magazine, editor Daniel McCarthy wrote that Unz was acting as if he were the editor of The American Conservative and threatened to resign if the publication's board did not support him over Unz.[39]
Replies: @Hypnotoad666
The American Conservative, Unfused?
By Betsy Woodruff
August 1, 2013
There’s a rift between the publisher and the editor, over editorial decisions and finances.
the juiced ball introduced mid-2015
conversion of what had been tactical, team based offense into one-on-one contests of strikeouts versus homers
this, in turn, diminishes the importance of aggressive base running, defensive play (e.g., in particular, the throwing arm of a right fielder), pitching to contact
Thanks, Greta.Did Sailer comment on these ideas?__________It's looking like the Dodgers win Game 6, which means the early-November outlook for more baseball commentary from Sailer is -- high.Replies: @Greta Handel, @Hail
Want to restore quality baseball? Raise the seams and deaden the ball.
the early-November outlook for more baseball commentary from Sailer is — high.
Steve Sailer predictably celebrated the Dodgers victory.
Much of his baseball commentary has gone towards criticizing the idea of a baseball “lockout” unless and until a salary cap is put in.
Sailer characterizes the people who are against the Dodgers’ total salaries being highest (or second-highest) in the MLB as “The Dodgers are ruining baseball.” The 2025 Dodgers’ aggregate salaries are said to be 2nd highest (narrowly after the NY Mets), but more than four times as high as the lowest-paid teams in the league.
An aggregation of recent Sailer baseball / Dodgers / World Series commentary:
Steve Sailer:
What ruins baseball more than a 7th game of the world series with the starting pitcher batting leadoff? We need an owner lockout in 2027 to go back to good old days of the Angels having Ohtani, Trout, and Pujols but no postseason appearances.
How DARE the Dodgers ruin baseball by putting on the best World Series since 1991?
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For decades, the feeling was that you could be smart like Oakland and Tampa Bay or rich like the Yankees. The Dodger current owners said: We’re rich, so why don’t we try being smart as well?
It turn out that also attracts players like Betts, Freeman, Ohtani and [Yamamoto].
He has also begun lobbying to trade away Will Smith, one of the heroes of the Dodgers’ run. Will Smith’s home run in Game 7 gave the Dodgers the winning run. Sailer has worked out a formula proving Will Smith is not right for the team and should be traded.
It’s a bad sign when a great portion of the discussion in this thread starts with either “Corvinus says” or “.” Almost none of either sort of post are very valuable.
During my 20 year career in the propane business working for a “major,” I saw this labor divide constantly. I worked 0ver 100 acquisitions (buying out the mom and pops) and about 1/2 the time the employees from the mom and pop were making more than my drivers. Also, I routinely hired drivers from mom and pops and independent over the road drivers, all looking for health insurance. Most of the time they took a pay cut to work for a major. I worked in extremely rural/white areas. I left that company after 20+ years of employment to start my own business. I signed my family up for insurance on the health care exchange. Not easy, most of the lower working class would have a hard time signing up. The premiums were $2000/month, but since I was making considerable less money than when I was a vp with the propane company, I got a credit and paid $200/month. The insurance is not great, and they negotiate with healthcare providers every year so we were switching providers almost every year. I personally know several men who work hard as laborers (loggers, farm hands, construction) who do not have health insurance, I have told them about the exchange and they would get insurance basically for free but they can’t handle the sign up procedures. These men are 40 to 60 years old, single ( never married or divorced) and will die prematurely of cancer/diabetes/heart disease because they do not have healthcare. And nobody gives a shit. Nonwhites get Medicaid because they do not work.Replies: @epebble, @Bardon Kaldian, @epebble, @Almost Missouri
I’ve never seen the labor market divide this way in real life (and I used to be the financial controller for a delivery company).
These men are 40 to 60 years old, single ( never married or divorced) and will die prematurely of cancer/diabetes/heart disease because they do not have healthcare
In any normal country, that should make a person’s blood boil. U.S. is not even a nation. Read the above and then this:
Trump threatens military action in Nigeria over Christian persecution claims
ABUJA, Nigeria — U.S. President Donald Trump on Saturday said he’s ordered the Pentagon to begin planning for potential military action in Nigeria as he stepped up his allegations that the government is failing to rein in the persecution of Christians in the West African country.
The president also warned that he “will immediately stop all aid and assistance to Nigeria.”
“If the Nigerian Government continues to allow the killing of Christians, the U.S.A. will immediately stop all aid and assistance to Nigeria, and may very well go into that now disgraced country, ‘guns-a-blazing,’ to completely wipe out the Islamic Terrorists who are committing these horrible atrocities,” Trump posted on social media. “I am hereby instructing our Department of War to prepare for possible action. If we attack, it will be fast, vicious, and sweet, just like the terrorist thugs attack our CHERISHED Christians!” . . .
https://www.npr.org/2025/11/01/g-s1-96215/trump-nigeria-christian-persecution-claims
The weakness in this suggestion is that eventually U.S. troops will leave and the danger will almost certainly return.
If the Nigerian Government continues to allow the killing of Christians, the U.S.A. will immediately stop all aid and assistance to Nigeria, and may very well go into that now disgraced country, ‘guns-a-blazing,’ to completely wipe out the Islamic Terrorists who are committing these horrible atrocities
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9PCeeBpdu4&rco=1
Waiting for the USAF C-17s with the white combatants to be dropped in to reenact The Battle of Stanleyville 1960s-style. LOL. Maybe they can get the African countries to contribute a contingent to be heloed in?
What is res’ other Internet presence besides his Unz Review commenting?
Steve Sailer…has not much to offer for contemporary US and the world
Sailer is now a symbol. A symbol, as much as a mere man commenting from the warm confines of a small room somewhere in Southern California.
The mainstreaming of Steve Sailer in the 2020s is gives insight into political conditions in the 2020s. (By “mainstreaming” I mean acceptance in the mainstream.) (Cf.: “Behind Steve Sailer’s Rise.”)
His much-lamented self-moderating, beginning around the late 2010s and clearly visible in the 2020s, was in parallel with the mainstreaming. Sailer denies his views have changed. But this kind of trend tends to happen to everyone who gets mainstreamed.
149 comments at Zero Hedge on the recent pro-VDare investigative article.
Some of the top comments:
Barron Trump:
Don’t know about Brimelow, but Kevin MacDonald and The Occidental Observer are UBER BASED.
And I’ll add Jared Taylor and American Renaissance too.
Young Otis:
Hey Tylers, instead of the Conservative, Inc. drivel from controlled-opposition globalist salad-tosser Victor Davis Hanson, how about some articles from Peter Brimelow?
Delmar Jackson:
Peter Brimlow and Vdare is great. I learned more about immigration from that site than the rest of the Internet and the mainstream media combined. I don’t agree with everything all of their contributors wrote over the years, but then I don’t agree with everything on National Public Radio either. Immigration is the national question. Demographics is permanent.
Many commented that it was foolish of Brimelow to “incorporate” VDare in New York.
I know PB has addressed this criticism in the past. I either never understood his explanation or didn’t buy it somehow. But I can’t remember what his reasons for incorporating in New York were, or his justifications after the fact (after the mortal wounding of VDare and ultimately is closure of operations in mid-2024). Anyone?
BRIMELOW: The VDARE Foundation was registered in New York state over 20 years ago, at a less fraught time, because our then-pro bono lawyer (subsequently forced to drop us because of the reign of terror) was admitted to the bar there. We can’t leave without permission. This has allowed New York state Attorney General Letitia James to attack us, exactly as she has attacked President Trump and the National Rifle Association, among others. She’s not yet charged us with anything. She’s just trying to batter us to death with expensive subpoenas—a quintessential lawfare tactic.
That was one ‘niche’ that Steve Sailer dug into (his personal motto at the time being “Live Not By Lies”), in or by the early 2000s. His worldwide fame today is a result.
Steve was decades late in making immigration his niche. Anti-immigrationists were voicing their views across the West since forever, since there have always been weasels pushing for cheap labor or ignorant voters. Sailer stands out because he is the type who doesn’t base his “anti-immigration” stance on protecting old-stock populations, culture, or traditions. He’s essentially approved by big business and our overlords, which is why he’s still sscribbling. Nothing risked in hoping for lots gained.
Immigration for a long time was a wierd issue where most people knew nothing about it, and the three or four who paid any attention to it were screaming “we’ve got to stop this”
That was one ‘niche’ that Steve Sailer dug into (his personal motto at the time being “Live Not By Lies”), in or by the early 2000s. His worldwide fame today is a result.
A copy of the interview (1h25m) is up at the VDare "Rumble" channel, under title "Radio Derb Returns! An Interview with John Derbyshire | Life in The Alien Nation."Replies: @Hail
John Derbyshire: My new book The Essential John Derbyshire wasn't released on October 28th as I'd advertised. There were some minor glitches in the publishing process; the release date has been put forward to November 18th. Sorry about that.What DID happen on the 28th was a group chat about the book on Rumble, courtesy of my VDARE colleague Paul Kersey and his podcast In the Alien Nation.You can listen to the whole thing here https://tinyurl.com/y58favw7Around the 20-minute mark "Lomez," the President of Passage Publishing, joins the chat. At 27m30s Peter Brimelow comes in, shortly followed by me.
Paul Kersey praises Steve Sailer during the John Derbyshire interview of October 28, 2025:
It was during their embarrassing technical difficulties that soaked up the first 20 minutes. Paul Kersey and “Dan Lyman, of Border Hawk News” were filling time while Peter Brimelow was off trying to track down John Derbyshire.
Paul Kersey said it was “fascinating” to find that John Derbyshire had made a plea for severe immigration restriction in March 2003, and that JD had predicted immigration-restrictionism was on the political horizon for later in the 2000s (too early by 10 years). (You can read here an that 2003 column in question, 1400 words.)
Here is the part where Paul Kersey praises Sailer, transcribed to text:
[10:45]
PAUL KERSEY: You’d think the reaction to [September 11th, 2001] would’ve been: “Well, we should have a serious conversation about political correctness at the airports.”
We know one of the people doing security at the Logan Airport noticed these Arab guys and [said], “You know, I’m not sure we should let them board. But is it worse to question them boarding?”
I think Steve Sailer has pulled that quote out a number of times, to point out that, “Well, you know, it could have all been avoided if we had racially profiled!”
At the same time, you’d have thought that Muslim immigration would’ve been put into question. And yet, here we are. You’ve seen the chart, Dan, of the enormous increase in Muslims in the United States. […]
Thanks, epebble. Based on your description, I’m unsurprised these kinds of places in Oregon swung noticeably towards Trump in 2016, 2020, and 2024 against their former political baseline. A story you can see all over the USA, but people overlook with Oregon (among other places).
One thing I wonder is, How big a difference do state/local governments make in the share-of-population on SNAP at a given time? In theory it is a low-income cutoff which, in theory, is quantifiable and not swayable by politics or the like. But some states might be more likely to wave anyone through, asking minimal questions of them; others might ask lots of questions and regularly shuffle people out of the system.
That’s what jumped out as a possibility with Oregon, at least partly: They have a generous attitude towards SNAP, because they trust people (the high-trust NW-European tradition).
But Even Multomah County (Portland) had 14% on SNAP in 2017-21; Washington County, 9%; Clackamas County, 10%. Spot-check some wealthy urban-cores elsewhere in relatively-White areas with “Yankee” settlement-patterns and numbers are often noticeably lower.
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I can’t help notice California is running a surprisingly tight ship on SNAP by the late 2010s, probably as a reaction to many years of laxity, and maybe they really are keeping illegals off the rolls successfully, limiting the statewide total to 10%:
CalFresh, known federally as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program or SNAP, provides monthly food benefits to individuals and families with low-income and provides economic benefits to communities. CalFresh is the largest food program in California and provides an essential hunger safety net. CalFresh is federally mandated and in California, is state-supervised and county-operated.
The only two counties in California that had over 20% receiving SNAP in 2017-2021, according to the FRAC data, were: Imperial County, bordering Arizona and Mexico; and Tulare County in the San Joaquin Valley (the region of California that is the lifelong home of right-wing commentator and pro-Sailer figure Victor Davis Hanson, I believe nearer to Fresno than Tulare).
Tulare County was depicted as a hardscrabble place already back in a 1971 Merle Haggard song already (“Tulare Dust.” See: 1971 version and the 1994 tribute version by Tom Russell).
Wiki-commentary on the Merle Haggard album Someday We’ll Look Back” (released August 1971; recorded “1969 and 1970” per Wikipedia entry) includes this:
Haggard also returns to the theme of the plight of the working poor on “One Row at a Time,” “California Cotton Fields,” and the self-penned “Tulare Dust,” a song that led music journalist Daniel Cooper to observe in 1994, “Merle has often driven home the point that life is hard, but he’s never driven it with quite so few words as he does in ‘Tulare Dust’.”
Oregon suspiciously high. What’s going on?
I live in Portland, OR and can give some explanation. Oregon, for a long time, had depended on timber for its economy. In the 1990’s, suddenly, the Portland region exploded due to the spurt of Intel design and fabrication plants (which themselves located here due to long history of Tektronix, now mostly defunct). Thus, Oregon turned into a highly bimodal economy – strong wealth creation in Portland area. Washington, (also Headquarters to Nike, another money machine), Multnomah and Clackamas counties. Rest of the state has been in a sort of depression, more or less, for over two decades. (Except a bit of ‘Education economy’ in Eugene and ‘Government economy’ in Salem.) Just as Midwest states have had difficulty in figuring out what to do in the post manufacturing economy, Oregon has failed to find a path beyond timber in the rural areas. There is a culture of dependency that developed in those counties that is coming into stress now as Intel started faltering over last decade and is no longer the fountain of wealth it was in the 1990’s and 2000’s. If Intel fails, there is a danger that Oregon may end up like what happened in West Virginia post coal.
Interestingly, all the distressed counties (including the listed), are nearly 100% White. The economically viable Tri-County area is quite diverse, with a sizeable Asian population in silicon design and manufacturing technology. The new CEO, on whom Intel’s hopes lie, is from Malaysia.
The only two counties in California that had over 20% receiving SNAP in 2017-2021, according to the FRAC data, were: Imperial County, bordering Arizona and Mexico; and Tulare County in the San Joaquin Valley (the region of California that is the lifelong home of right-wing commentator and pro-Sailer figure Victor Davis Hanson, I believe nearer to Fresno than Tulare).Tulare County was depicted as a hardscrabble place already back in a 1971 Merle Haggard song already ("Tulare Dust." See: 1971 version and the 1994 tribute version by Tom Russell).Wiki-commentary on the Merle Haggard album Someday We'll Look Back" (released August 1971; recorded "1969 and 1970" per Wikipedia entry) includes this:
CalFresh, known federally as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program or SNAP, provides monthly food benefits to individuals and families with low-income and provides economic benefits to communities. CalFresh is the largest food program in California and provides an essential hunger safety net. CalFresh is federally mandated and in California, is state-supervised and county-operated.
Haggard also returns to the theme of the plight of the working poor on "One Row at a Time," "California Cotton Fields," and the self-penned "Tulare Dust," a song that led music journalist Daniel Cooper to observe in 1994, "Merle has often driven home the point that life is hard, but he's never driven it with quite so few words as he does in 'Tulare Dust'."
Another area, much more significant, where clueless republicans are targeting poor working class whites is the attack on the subsidies in the Affordable Care Act.
Interestingly, all the distressed counties (including the listed), are nearly 100% White.
https://www.hks.harvard.edu/faculty-research/policy-topics/health/health-insurance-subsidies-behind-government-shutdown
There’s a big group—about 40-50 million people—who fall in the “missing middle”: they earn too much to qualify for Medicaid and they’re too young for Medicare, but they don’t have a job that offers health insurance.
SNAP enrollment by county navigable map, 2017-2021:
https://frac.org/maps/snap-county-map/snap-counties.html
Oregon suspiciously high. What’s going on?
— Jefferson County, Ore.: 28% on SNAP
— Malheur County, Ore.: 27% on SNAP
— Josephine County, Ore.: 24% on SNAP
— Klamath County, Ore.: 23% on SNAP
— Coos County, Ore.: 23% on SNAP
— Harney County, Ore.: 23% on SNAP
— OREGON statewide: 15%
Some comparisons:
— WYOMING, statewide: 5%!
— Los Angeles County, Calif.: 10% (CALIFORNIA statewide, also 10%)
— JD Vance’s home counties in Ohio:
— — Butler County: 9%
— — Warren County: 4%
— Manhattan: 13%
— Bronx: 36%
— Queens: 16%
— Brooklyn: 22%
— Staten Island: 12%
Also note the huge numbers of foreign 'New Yorkers' [sic] in rent controlled apartments in defiance of the law against immigrants being a "public charge". NYC really is a bimodal economy: overpaid, overworked, overutilized, parasitical and destructive "professional services" overclass + subsidized, scamming, heavily foreign and nonwhite parasitical and destructive underclass. Both subsidized by extractions from the interior. The problem is hardly confined to NYC. Or even to the USA.
— Manhattan: 13%
— Bronx: 36%
— Queens: 16%
— Brooklyn: 22%
— Staten Island: 12%
That came up in the Twitter replies too. Seems to be a combination of unemployed timber families, derelict indigenes, and Seattle/Portland social workers signing up every antifa and druggie they can find. Or the whole thing could just the the map of Where The Minorities Are.Here's the main PNW thread:
Oregon suspiciously high. What’s going on?
Replies: @epebble
DataRepublican (small r) @DataRepublican
Oct 26What’s with the Pacific Northwest?Just Loki @LokiJulianus
Oct 26
Replying to @DataRepublicanI'm not totally sure: I think a lot of areas are pretty economically depressed and have been for a while. Plus, wouldn't surprise me if state govs there sign up as many people as they can.He who waits @Nataksan
Oct 26
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanThat area is where armies of homeless druggies go.They have an interesting habit of using the EBT funds the roaming social-workers sign them up for in order to buy tons of cases of water bottles, empty them all into the street, then recycle the bottles for cash for drugs.Brian Knotts @brianknotts
Oct 26
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanCombination of factors. This region used to have robust natural resource industries, that were curtailed by regulation and lawsuits. Then, the grants that were in place to help replace the tax revenue from logging were discontinued. Now, add international immigration, and voila.Bob @TheMonkBob
Oct 27
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanLots of counties in eastern Oregon are some of the most sparsely populated in the US, also farming / dairy in eastern WA and thus lots and lots of minimum wage farm workers in places like Yakima county. Also meth/drugs destroy these peoples’ ability to support themselvesPBF @PeepoButters
Oct 26
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanIt's comically easy to sign up with virtually no oversight.Sam West @SamWest_7
Oct 26
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanYep. You can make 200% above poverty level in Oregon, for example, and still get food stamps. They’ve removed all barriers and really aren’t even screening applicants anymore. Federal law is ~130% above poverty for the cut off.Kenneth R Milstead @krmilstead
Oct 27
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanEastern OR & Eastern WA have large areas of poverty & are (surprise) mostly Republican. Some areas have voted to leave OR & WA to become part of Idaho. In the case of WA, the urban (Dem) areas have fewer people on Medicaid than the rural (Rep) areas. They vote for their own harm.DreamDancer @ChristinDancer
Oct 26
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanIf you're the right demographic they will overlook irregularities that normally would disqualify you.Blank can be name @DETHopolis
Oct 27
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanYes a lot of economically depressed areas here in the PNW. I've spent my whole life here so far.Rural towns have shit for employment, in many cases you need to travel 25+ miles one way just to get minimum wage.Bigger cities aren't much better here imo.CurlySue1309 @CurlySue1309
Oct 26
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanIt’s the latter. They ensure voters if they keep sending generous welfare benefits to so many.Todd Ianuzzi @toddkicksass
Oct 26
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanReservations and Agriculture workers.MrsMcMahon @MrsMcMahon17
Oct 26
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanIn SW Idaho (the most populated part of Idaho) wages are 15 yrs behind and housing prices have been rising drastically. Grocery and gas prices are some of the highest in the nation. While the rest of the country gas goes down, we're still at $3.50. There's also a grocery tax. Things were somewhat doable until the housing /rent prices skyrocketed. Our little house value doubled in 5 yrs. Californian influx largely driven this trend.TheRepublicLives @JayAbraham88
Oct 26
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanI think it has to do with reservations and alot of Indians are pretty destitute and on assistanceMiller Talk Podcast ✝️🇺🇸 @MillerTalk_Pod
Oct 27
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanThe progressive destroyed logging in the name of the “environment”. Total bs reason. It was like their only industry up there.bREEZY 🖤 MAYHEM @gaardenpanty
Oct 26
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanThose counties are mostly rural areas and smaller towns. The more metropolitan couple of counties are in green.Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged @OrderOfMentats
Oct 26
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanPlus legalized weed….NixVuln @NixVuln
Oct 26
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanI would not be at all surprised if it was mostly Indian grandparents living with their H1B children but technically being eligible for food stampsSaxum Magnum @vortidude
Oct 27
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanYou could have just stopped typing after 4 words.RedHackBlue @redhackblue_
Oct 27
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanhaha it's all Hippies in Oregon and Washington State. c'mon. In Southern California we have referred to them as granola crunchers for like decades because we know. Over the last 10 years it's become hippies and the homeless.Jesse Arnold @JesseArnold14
Oct 28
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanLotta timber work dried up there when Canada started supplementing their supply to squeeze our industry.FreeThinker @jefiner229
Oct 26
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanProbably homeless + some indigineousNate N. Higgs @NathanielNHiggs
Oct 27
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanI think it’s the latter. They just have super lax restrictions and give SNAP away like it’s candyb @palapatdk1
Oct 27
Replying to @LokiJulianus @DataRepublicanThe state got free government money the more people they signed up. Add that along with low paying jobs, homeless pop, and illegals
the juiced ball introduced mid-2015
conversion of what had been tactical, team based offense into one-on-one contests of strikeouts versus homers
this, in turn, diminishes the importance of aggressive base running, defensive play (e.g., in particular, the throwing arm of a right fielder), pitching to contact
Want to restore quality baseball? Raise the seams and deaden the ball.
Thanks, Greta.
Did Sailer comment on these ideas?
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It’s looking like the Dodgers win Game 6, which means the early-November outlook for more baseball commentary from Sailer is — high.
Not in any substantial way that I can recall, at least timely. He noticed baseball’s decline to “three true outcomes,” but was willfully clueless about causation and silly about remediation. Here’s a good, early example:https://www.unz.com/isteve/baseball-in-2017/You can see how Travis and I (starting at #10) were pretty much ignored while Sailer and others like Jonathan Mason were nerding around with field dimensions, et cetera. (Noticeably, that thread also addresses (i) “get a handle” versus the case for anonymity and, perhaps, (ii) selectively moderating heterodox comments that had yet to be known as “blueberries.”) I’ve since walked off, but from what I pick up here and there the game remains wrecked, with some teams even leading off with their top sluggers to maximize plate appearances.I appreciate that you are helping to overcome my current neoWhimming. But what’s with the fixation on Sailer even when the topic is one where he’s plainly out of his league?
Did Sailer comment on these ideas?
Steve Sailer predictably celebrated the Dodgers victory.Much of his baseball commentary has gone towards criticizing the idea of a baseball "lockout" unless and until a salary cap is put in. Sailer characterizes the people who are against the Dodgers' total salaries being highest (or second-highest) in the MLB as "The Dodgers are ruining baseball." The 2025 Dodgers' aggregate salaries are said to be 2nd highest (narrowly after the NY Mets), but more than four times as high as the lowest-paid teams in the league. An aggregation of recent Sailer baseball / Dodgers / World Series commentary:
the early-November outlook for more baseball commentary from Sailer is — high.
He has also begun lobbying to trade away Will Smith, one of the heroes of the Dodgers' run. Will Smith's home run in Game 7 gave the Dodgers the winning run. Sailer has worked out a formula proving Will Smith is not right for the team and should be traded.Replies: @Greta Handel
Steve Sailer: What ruins baseball more than a 7th game of the world series with the starting pitcher batting leadoff? We need an owner lockout in 2027 to go back to good old days of the Angels having Ohtani, Trout, and Pujols but no postseason appearances.How DARE the Dodgers ruin baseball by putting on the best World Series since 1991?__________For decades, the feeling was that you could be smart like Oakland and Tampa Bay or rich like the Yankees. The Dodger current owners said: We're rich, so why don't we try being smart as well? It turn out that also attracts players like Betts, Freeman, Ohtani and [Yamamoto].
Passage Publishing
@PassagePress
Update:
We have delayed the release of @DissidentRight's The Essential John Derbyshire to 11/18/2025 after receiving some test prints that weren't quite right from the printers.
His book will be available on Nov. 18th if you order at passage.press/products/john-derbyshire, and December 2nd everywhere else books are sold.
5:10 PM · Oct 28, 2025
John Derbyshire interviewed on podcast:
John Derbyshire:
My new book The Essential John Derbyshire wasn’t released on October 28th as I’d advertised. There were some minor glitches in the publishing process; the release date has been put forward to November 18th. Sorry about that.
What DID happen on the 28th was a group chat about the book on Rumble, courtesy of my VDARE colleague Paul Kersey and his podcast In the Alien Nation.
You can listen to the whole thing here https://tinyurl.com/y58favw7
Around the 20-minute mark “Lomez,” the President of Passage Publishing, joins the chat. At 27m30s Peter Brimelow comes in, shortly followed by me.
A copy of the interview (1h25m) is up at the VDare “Rumble” channel, under title “Radio Derb Returns! An Interview with John Derbyshire | Life in The Alien Nation.”
Replies: @J.Ross, @Mark G.
[10:45] PAUL KERSEY: You'd think the reaction to [September 11th, 2001] would've been: "Well, we should have a serious conversation about political correctness at the airports." We know one of the people doing security at the Logan Airport noticed these Arab guys and [said], "You know, I'm not sure we should let them board. But is it worse to question them boarding?" I think Steve Sailer has pulled that quote out a number of times, to point out that, "Well, you know, it could have all been avoided if we had racially profiled!"At the same time, you'd have thought that Muslim immigration would've been put into question. And yet, here we are. You've seen the chart, Dan, of the enormous increase in Muslims in the United States. [...]
Richard B. Spencer today says:
J.D. Vance [issuing his statement disavowing divorce rumors]:
[My wife] is not a Christian and has no plans to convert, but like many people in an interfaith marriage–or any interfaith relationship–I hope she may one day see things as I do. Regardless, I’ll continue to love and support her and talk to her about faith and life and everything else, because she’s my wife.
Richard Spencer:
A few incarnations ago, Vance’s “interfaith” marriage was his greatest asset! This was when he was put forward as the “White Obama” or “Hillbilly Millennial,” the Middle American who could overcome backwardness to embrace America’s technological future.
Now that Vance® has been reimagined as a Trad Catholic and White Nationalist, Usha has become a strategic liability. Vance doesn’t even call her a “person of faith,” though I guess he hopes she won’t burn in Hell for eternity for rejecting Jesus.
In 2028, JD must find a new donkey to ride into Jerusalem. And that donkey’s name might be “Erica.”
_________
There’s a non-zero chance that Vance picks Erica Kirk as his running mate … or marries her after annulling his current marriage. Vance can’t do anything alone. He clings to people as vehicles. Usha served a purpose, as did Trump…
[JD Vance] is anti-white.
He presents himself as pro-White, but it’s is a development tied to the early 2020s.
Questions deserve asking about the JD Vance of the 2010s, and what all happened with him. How/when/why did he go from his 2015-18 “Trump should be stopped for his bullying and humiliation of virtuous brown people, including people I love” to the new version of himself seen ca.2022-25?
I noticed that when I heard the interview.
Fuentes gave Steve a name check in the Tucker interview
Some bad things about Nick Fuentes: he has always been a “social media personality” (Youtuber), which is to say a self-serving entertainer primarily and above all.
He was for many years something like a provocateur-troll who cashed in on being a Youtuber, despite not really having particularly thought-out ideas of his own.
It was largely about getting laughs, through the very-low-info-density video format.
Not a positive development. Even if predictable enough in outline in the Internet era.
(note: One doesn’t necessarily have to disagree with any particular view NF is saying on a particular day to agree with the above.)
Yeah, despite making a good impression during the Tucker interview, I won't bother seeking out Fuentes broadcasts just because, other than events that happen to him personally, he didn't have any new information or insight to bring to the table. As you say, he's mostly just repeating talking points from elsewhere, which apparently his audience finds useful or entertaining.
a self-serving entertainer primarily
Sailer proceeded to offer some ideas for rule-changes to baseball. His rule-changes would generally "favor offensive action and keep the game moving along."He also spent an inordinate amount of time playing both sides in arguments about whether the one guy "pushed Ohtani off the base" when Ohtani tried and failed to steal second base in the bottom of the ninth. Steve says he favors a system that would let base-runners who touch the base but move off it a few inches to be safe. But maybe he's just saying that because he is an Ohtani fan.Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
Sailer rushed to tweet something within minutes of marathon 2025 World Series Game 3’s end
“Steve says he favors a system that would let base-runners who touch the base but move off it a few inches to be safe. But maybe he’s just saying that because he is an Ohtani fan.”
Make 2nd and 3rd base like 1st base: runner may run past the base safely and then he cannot advance further – OR he may slide and then may advance further upon errant throw, etc. It adds a tactical wrinkle to baserunning.
October 31: Reformation Day.
The 508th anniversary of the Reformation
(starting in 1517, Germany).
According to the influential, now-mainstream Jewish intellectual-scribbler Curtis Yarvin (f.k.a. Mencius Moldbug”), the Reformation was a very bad event. It helped to undermine monarchy. And there was Luther’s committed, principled anti-Semitism…
According to Yarvin, Protestantism set the stage for all the world’s problems, for which the Jews are 100% (no, 110%!) innocent. The Jews were tricked into all by the perfidious, nefarious Protestants, you see; Protestants being a group that secretly controls the world, controls the media, and undermines nations all over the place (per Yarvin).
It was troubling to many when Steve Sailer occasionally flirted with embracing this ‘Moldbuggian’ anti-Protestant view of world history.
One funny thing about the Yarvin/Moldbug School of blaming White-Protestants “for everything wrong with America” is that there’d be no America at all without White-Protestants. The ethnocultural core around whose traditions, attitudes, and norms all US institutions arose!
Yarvin’s anti-Protestant crusade was a strange little project, in which he endeavored to cast White-Protestants as some radical-subversive outside group in their own society, the society they created, maintained, and demographically were the core-majority of for centuries. Rabbi Yarvin laid on the “pilpul” thick and heavy.
That's obviously a silly caricature of Yarvin's views. Why do you do this?
According to Yarvin, Protestantism set the stage for all the world’s problems, for which the Jews are 100% (no, 110%!) innocent. The Jews were tricked into all by the perfidious, nefarious Protestants, you see; Protestants being a group that secretly controls the world, controls the media, and undermines nations all over the place (per Yarvin).
— Sailer’s Oct 2025 architecture wish-lists —
Sailer says he endorses the Trump movie to tear down the building known as the White House East Wing because the land is too valuable to let a dumpy building like that stand.
He proposed a two-by-two matrix and has asked for ideas to fill in 3 of the 4 boxes:
[first axis]
– Good Buildings
– Bad Buildings
[second axis]
– Buildings now standing that should be torn town
– Former buildings (now gone) that should be re-built.
— Good (or not bad) buildings that should be torn down (to better use the space): “Which not bad buildings should be demolished?.”
— Good buildings that no longer exist but should be rebuilt: “What lost architecture should we rebuild?”
— Bad buildings that should be torn down: “What else should Trump tear down?”
— Bad buildings that no longer exist but should be re-built: n/a
Usha Chilukuri, a Hindu, would have been ineligible for U.S. citizenship for most of U.S. history.
She’d have generally been classified under the legal category “alien ineligible for naturalization.”
The man known as J. D. Vance today issued this statement about his Hindu wife and children, and the divorce rumors:
My wife…is not a Christian and has no plans to convert, but like many people in an interfaith marriage–or any interfaith relationship–I hope she may one day see things as I do. Regardless, I’ll continue to love and support her and talk to her about faith and life and everything else, because she’s my wife.
My view: Despite all the power (or maybe in part because of it), Vance is a confused and troubled soul.
Years ago, he got mixed up with a Hindu. both parties, Vance and Usha, might well know it was wrong. Odds are, their two boys will. Vance has often called them his “brown sons” (and now one “brown girl” for a total of three). Yes, all experience suggests good odds that the “brown sons” will see it that way: that their parents’ marriage was morally wrong. Because the Tragic Mulatto trope is real, and goes far beyond mulattoes.
(See also the middle section of the comment to which this is a reply.)
I had a half-Indian childhood friend. Her Indian mother was petite, Anglophilic, and educated, but still had an Indian accent and quite dark skin (so I guess from the south subcontinent somewhere, but I never thought to ask of course). In our primarily black neighborhood, my friend's appearance didn't stand out except that she was prettier than anyone of equal or darker skintone (delicate features, naturally straight shiny hair, no steatopygia). Probably a lot of the black kids (whom she, unlike me, didn't mix with: "Gutter snipes!" —her mother) assumed she was just a pretty black girl rather than anything exotic. At any rate, I don't recall her appearance ever being a social issue. Nor do I recall her ever complaining about "racism"/"discrimination" etc. And I also don't recall her ever taking any special interest in anything Indian or Hindu or even her mother's immediate ancestry. (On the one occasion her Indian grandfather visited, the grandkids evinced no interest I can recall.)
Odds are, their two boys will. Vance has often called them his “brown sons” (and now one “brown girl” for a total of three). Yes, all experience suggests good odds that the “brown sons” will see it that way: that their parents’ marriage was morally wrong. Because the Tragic Mulatto trope is real, and goes far beyond mulattoes.
He is a political opportunist. He found being 'Religious' is advantageous in MAGA and hitched his wagon to it. He will probably get off of it if/when his political career is over.
Much of my new atheism came down to a desire for social acceptance among American elites
I may have retconned a bit. I was out of the country either side of the turn of the millennium. After I got back I started noticing tattoos everywhere. I assumed they were underway while I was gone too, so I projected the start date back, but maybe I was actually just witnessing them unfold in real time.
The stigma of the tattoo in normal-default quasi-polite society feels to me like it held in the late 2000s and into the 2010s.
That theory is complicated by the fact that all races seem to be getting tattoos now.
Tattoos in the current year could be seen as a sort of “maimgeld”: the tribute that White women pay in self-disfigurement to a growing Diversitopia they live in that both covets the White women’s exquisite natural looks and hates it to the verge of eliminationist rage. So all these negative body modifications by Whites could be construed as an effort to blend invisibly into the muddying waters of late stage America.
Self-maiming (to alleviate the envy felt by the lesser races of women) and slut signaling (to attract the attention of alpha males on the prowl for easy r-selected sex) are the two big subconscious reasons tattoos have become such a cultural marker for White women.
tattoos on modern women mean “Ask me about my tattoos”
I have noticed this to often be the case among a certain set.
When did it start being true?
The “Ask me about my tattoos” female-attention-seeking thing may considerably lag the earliest start-point for the trend of tattoos on White women —- which various people in this thread have proposed to be sometime in the 1990s decade, but obviously must vary by such things as region, socioeconomic status, or many other factors.
Part of this discussion is (must be) a question of degree: A single small, hidden tattoo vs. large, shocking, visually unescapable tattoos. Qualitatively considerably different things.
Q. In what year did the first mentally-stable White woman (lacking any clinical mental illnesses or major personality disorders) get a “face” or neck tattoo?
In the early-mid 1990s I worked at a bank where a would-have-been-attractive young white woman customer came in whose face was disfigured by either tattoos or piercings and bizarre makeup. It may not have been the first such event I saw, but I remember that occasion because afterward another employee remarked to me about my reaction (that I didn't hide my disgust very well). That she could maintain a bank account and carry out ordinary business transactions is evidence of her mental stability.
Q. In what year did the first mentally-stable White woman (lacking any clinical mental illnesses or major personality disorders) get a “face” or neck tattoo?
Steve Sailer is devoting the lion’s share of his entire attention this day, October 31, to baseball. Game 6 of the World Series starts in about 9 hours from this writing.
Sailer on Twitter has been alternating between offering ideas on strategies for how the Dodgers can win, and offering scientific HBD-based explanations for why they can’t/won’t win. In both cases, singing the praises of Ohtani.
He also tossed in some comments critical of Transgenders participation in sports, following the suicide of one of the Transgender-in-girls-sports figures, a case referenced by J.Ross two days ago:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/isteve-open-thread-14/#comment-7364068
Sweden acquired Eritreans, Ethiopians, and (anti-Ethiopia) Tigray people, starting when? And, why?
This was the controversial dress as worn by Sydney Sweeney:
Sydney Sweeney’s dress isn’t porn. It’s powerful, divinely feminine and stunning. She’s the subject not the object. Its presence not provocation. She’s not begging to be seen. She shines.
I don’t get the Sydney Sweeney hype. Is she pretty? Sure, she’s pretty. She’s certainly not hideous, like any number of people the media tells us are pretty. She’s above average, but not special beyond that. She’s not as pretty as Kate Winslet or Miranda Otto or Natalie Dormer or Amy Adams.
That said, that picture of her is quite flattering. I’ve been thinking she looks like another actress, and I couldn’t figure out who. Now I’ve got it – Jeri Ryan.
It's a sort porn Aryan nationalism.
I don’t get the Sydney Sweeney hype.
Who said... Timing is everything!
I don’t get the Sydney Sweeney hype.
As someone said, politics is life and life is politics. I think it goes back to at least Aristotle. Per our AI overlords:
Also of interest to me is if this problem can be fixed or if this is part of an inevitable decline of the type you often see in late stage empires. If the latter is the case, then it may be better to focus more on personal survival during the coming economic collapse rather than spend large amounts of time engaging in political activities.
“we have had such an explosion of knowledge and technology over the last three centuries that I can’t see collapse of the kind we hear about.”
Yes, I think in the long run the human race will continue to technologically advance. I view myself, though, as a long term optimist but a short term pessimist. We are likely to have a rough time over the next fifty years. I will not be alive most of that time but am concerned about my nieces and other younger Whites. I try not to fit the selfish Boomer stereotype.
When we come out of this short term collapse, I do not know if the U.S. will be the geographical center of civilization but it is likely to be where there are large numbers of Whites. Africans have too low of an average IQ and Asians are status seeking conformist types. They are not going to risk being unpopular in the way a Galileo or Darwin did. Whites have that natural curiosity about the world that leads to scientific and technological advances.
Katie Miller, wife of Stephen Miller, is for some reason being asked to do rounds on media shows defending Trump, praising Israel, and denouncing anti-Semitism.
A few days ago, she “erupted during a heated panel on Piers Morgan Uncensored,” which “ended with her threatening never to return to the show.”
Stephen Miller’s Wife Suffers Sensational On-Air Meltdown
Katie Miller accused half of the panel of anti-Semitism and threatened to never return to Piers Morgan’s show.
Leigh Kimmins | The Daily Beast
October 30, 2025
Re the mortal wounding of VDare:
Today John Derbyshire says (in effect), “This ain’t over.” He points to a recent investigative report relatively sympathetic to VDare:
John Derbyshire:
James Varney at the website Real Clear Investigations has just (October 28th) posted a detailed and lucid account of the lawfare campaign against VDARE by New York State’s Attorney General. Well worth reading https://tinyurl.com/ynzh8j9e
Good to be reminded that among those reporting to the A-G and, like her, growing fat on my NY State taxes are a “Chief Deputy Attorney General for Social Justice” and an entire “Hate Crimes and Bias Prevention branch,” both no doubt employing legions of salaried far-left agitators to shut down “hate speech” By Any Means Necessary….
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Excerpts:
Why Is New York’s AG Targeting a Castle in West Virginia?
By James Varney | RealClearInvestigations
October 28, 2025