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  • No one seems to have recognized a key person who is responsible for this moment in American history: Eric Topol.

    Remember him? He was the medical researcher who saw to it that the results of the vaccine trials would not be released before the election in 2020. As Steve has argued, this very likely prevented the vote from being swung to Trump.

    And now Trump has come into his second term with a powerful mandate, and what looks like a well organized plan (not exactly typical of the Trump of his first term) to take power and enforce his vision.

    We should all be thankful for the unstinting efforts of Dr. Topol, who was so gloriously careless of what he wished for.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @candid_observer


    We should all be thankful for the unstinting efforts of Dr. Topol
     
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/Chaim_Topol%2C_1967_%28cropped%29.jpg
  • Data scientist David Rozado presents his complete collection of Google Gemini 17th Century physicists. He thinks the one in the lower right corner might be reminiscent of a European physicist like Galileo, who looked like this. But the other 48 definitely do not. Rozado writes:
  • What is most interesting about this entirely sensible proposal will be to see how the tech giants respond to it.

    Can they really bring themselves to implement it, when they know how it exposes their ideological agenda? Yet on what grounds can they refuse to implement it?

    I have a feeling we’re going to hear many excuses why it just can’t be done.

  • From the New York Times news section: The Misguided War on the SAT Colleges have fled standardized tests, on the theory that they hurt diversity. That’s not what the research shows. By David Leonhardt David Leonhardt has been reporting on opportunity in higher education for more than two decades. Jan. 7, 2024 After the Covid...
  • @That Would Be Telling
    @candid_observer


    MIT boasts that it got 14% blacks with the use of the SAT, because it was able to select the best blacks. But that would be only because it was allowed to treat blacks separately. Those numbers can’t possibly stay in the same range if they can’t do so, unless they take huge hits on quality of students.
     
    Errr, MIT never "got 14% blacks" unless that's a citation for admissions offers, where some will instead accept offers from CalTech which is stronger in science, or other such institutions, or go to much more remunerative paths at Harvard etc.

    Per our meta-host and his source for Fall 2022 numbers, was around 5.5% when I went there, went up and down but generally trending up to get no higher than 8/8.1%, but later as low as 5.5% again, and most recently 7.1 and "8%" (latter source's friendly graphics don't do decimals). So maybe ignore the rest of this comment which started from your 14% claim:To a degree, assuming MIT hasn't been watering down the relevant majors and as you suspect admissions.

    First you have to factor in that self-selection by serious MIT applicants is a major thing, and has been known to save a subpar admissions process. Like how many negros who get offers also get them from schools known for majors, networks etc. where they'll earn a lot more money?

    The ones I knew in the 1980s and '90s were there because they wanted to do stereotypical MIT things, and would have been miserable or worse if they'd become DEI commissars. The black nerd stereotype is not baseless, except for emphasis on "nerd" with all its negative connotations including glasses.

    So assuming the whole science and math part of the Institution hasn't been watered down, all these negros survived the first pass test of "can they do the work?" of the core curriculum, which includes one semester of calculus beyond the AP BC sequence, and calculus based physics, one semester each of classical mechanics and E&M with a bit of optics etc. None of which are trivial, or if so, you can take the advanced versions with proofs or much greater use of math.

    (If they go CS and many do along with their peers, per ABET a semester of discrete math like group theory, many abelian grapes are squashed or so I'm told. EE or EE and CS also requires more serious math, enough so becoming a quant "on Wall Street" was and may still be the targeted first job.)

    So now we get to the likely messy and frowned up on by the Supreme Court issue: these people who pass the above test, and who definitely belong at MIT, how do they compare to the whites, Jews (assuming some non-Soft Jews still go to MIT as they did in the 1980s), Asians NE and subcontinental etc. who get admitted. (Well, I think they're unlikely to do organized exam cheating like the latter group, which the MIT EECS department basically ignored in the 1980s, then again who wants to experience the wrong end of Sudden Jihad Syndrome?)

    I suspect they're even more like what goes for legacy admits, that is the children of alums who aren't Top Students but again can do the work and will likely contribute to the world. Albeit plenty of those were strong in other stuff, and strength in music was very widespread throughout the undergraduate body.

    Replies: @candid_observer

    Actually, I slightly misremembered the number from the NY Times article: it was in fact 15% blacks:

    “Once we brought the test requirement back, we admitted the most diverse class that we ever had in our history,” Schmill told me. “Having test scores was helpful.” In M.I.T.’s current first-year class, 15 percent of students are Black, 16 percent are Hispanic, 38 percent are white, and 40 percent are Asian American.

    I have no idea where Schmill got that number, but he, as dean of admissions at M.I.T., should be in a position to know.

    It is an eye-popping number, and far greater than in previous years, it seems.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @candid_observer

    See my followup here; turns out MIT admissions dean Schmill's comment is about the 2023 freshman class, whereas all the other data we have is on total undergraduate body or worse.

    TL;DR: my best guess is MIT is now? is playing the worse type of AA game such that attrition of negro freshman is vicious.

  • What the article fails to do is to reckon with the consequences of the recent SC ruling on Affirmative Action.

    Sure, it’s quite true that one can select the most capable blacks by emphasizing their SAT scores. But this only works if you can treat blacks as a separate category. The problem remains that blacks, in comparison to other groups, do most poorly on academic measures on the SAT. Blacks can do OK on grades, relatively speaking, because they compete mostly against each other in most high schools they attend.

    So introducing, or retaining, the SAT as a significant factor makes them seem overall only less worthy academically than they would seem otherwise. If the ruling of the SC is at all respected, and they are not separated out for special treatment, their numbers should plummet only more dramatically with the use of the SAT as a factor than without it.

    MIT boasts that it got 14% blacks with the use of the SAT, because it was able to select the best blacks. But that would be only because it was allowed to treat blacks separately. Those numbers can’t possibly stay in the same range if they can’t do so, unless they take huge hits on quality of students.

    The article would have made a lot more sense and have been far more applicable before the SC ruling than afterwards.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @candid_observer


    MIT boasts that it got 14% blacks with the use of the SAT, because it was able to select the best blacks. But that would be only because it was allowed to treat blacks separately. Those numbers can’t possibly stay in the same range if they can’t do so, unless they take huge hits on quality of students.
     
    Errr, MIT never "got 14% blacks" unless that's a citation for admissions offers, where some will instead accept offers from CalTech which is stronger in science, or other such institutions, or go to much more remunerative paths at Harvard etc.

    Per our meta-host and his source for Fall 2022 numbers, was around 5.5% when I went there, went up and down but generally trending up to get no higher than 8/8.1%, but later as low as 5.5% again, and most recently 7.1 and "8%" (latter source's friendly graphics don't do decimals). So maybe ignore the rest of this comment which started from your 14% claim:To a degree, assuming MIT hasn't been watering down the relevant majors and as you suspect admissions.

    First you have to factor in that self-selection by serious MIT applicants is a major thing, and has been known to save a subpar admissions process. Like how many negros who get offers also get them from schools known for majors, networks etc. where they'll earn a lot more money?

    The ones I knew in the 1980s and '90s were there because they wanted to do stereotypical MIT things, and would have been miserable or worse if they'd become DEI commissars. The black nerd stereotype is not baseless, except for emphasis on "nerd" with all its negative connotations including glasses.

    So assuming the whole science and math part of the Institution hasn't been watered down, all these negros survived the first pass test of "can they do the work?" of the core curriculum, which includes one semester of calculus beyond the AP BC sequence, and calculus based physics, one semester each of classical mechanics and E&M with a bit of optics etc. None of which are trivial, or if so, you can take the advanced versions with proofs or much greater use of math.

    (If they go CS and many do along with their peers, per ABET a semester of discrete math like group theory, many abelian grapes are squashed or so I'm told. EE or EE and CS also requires more serious math, enough so becoming a quant "on Wall Street" was and may still be the targeted first job.)

    So now we get to the likely messy and frowned up on by the Supreme Court issue: these people who pass the above test, and who definitely belong at MIT, how do they compare to the whites, Jews (assuming some non-Soft Jews still go to MIT as they did in the 1980s), Asians NE and subcontinental etc. who get admitted. (Well, I think they're unlikely to do organized exam cheating like the latter group, which the MIT EECS department basically ignored in the 1980s, then again who wants to experience the wrong end of Sudden Jihad Syndrome?)

    I suspect they're even more like what goes for legacy admits, that is the children of alums who aren't Top Students but again can do the work and will likely contribute to the world. Albeit plenty of those were strong in other stuff, and strength in music was very widespread throughout the undergraduate body.

    Replies: @candid_observer

  • As obtained by The Free Beacon telepathically via the mind of Andrew Stiles: Dear Friends and Colleagues, Eight score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we (metaphorically) stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. ... But 160 years later, I see no changes. All I see is racist faces. Misplaced hate makes disgrace...
  • I’m wondering, might Barack Obama take on the job of being President of Harvard?

    It wouldn’t be crazy. He’d be the perfect case of a supposedly qualified DEI hire. And what is he doing now that’s so important anyhow? Who outside of the right would dare to criticize him?

    And it would suit his delusions about how educated and sophisticated he is.

  • The now popular notion that "race does not exist" or that "race is a social construct" have grown greatly in use in books in recent decades, according to Google's Ngram of American books published in English from 1800 to 2019. (I don't know what context "race does not exist" was used in the 1840s to...
  • @ic1000
    @ic1000

    Ugh. It looks like one has to know which "Show replies" buttons to press, to read this discussion. Below the fold is the (a?) transcript.

    @Steve_Sailer (12:45 PM Nov 15, 2023) -- Here are links to the underlying academic paper announcing the new raceless algorithm. Strikingly, it doesn't include a comparison of its accuracy vs. the old 2013 algorithm:
    [res' comment #59 at iSteve post]

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    @StoneBiology -- you're reading the wrong paper they do a direct comparison (it outperforms the old equation)

    https://ahajournals.org/doi/epdf/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.123.067626

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    @Steve_Sailer -- The AHA improved its algorithm from 2013 to 2023 in a number of noncontroversial scientific ways, but that hardly proves it didn't hurt its algorithm, ceteris paribus, by dropping race as a factor.

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    @SashaGusevPosts -- This is a very weasely way of acknowledging that the new algorithm that drops race is more accurate

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    @Steve_Sailer -- Are you familiar with the concept of ceteris paribus?

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    @SashaGusevPosts -- It's not possible to hold all conditions equal, this isn't a breeding program. But is there a reason you lied about the study right from the start?

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    @Steve_Sailer -- In updating a risk model like the American Heart Association's, it's very much possible to hold all else equal while assessing each proposed change. The AHA has the data on what the accuracy would be with and without race as a factor, but they decided not to publish it.

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    @SashaGusevPosts -- This is incorrect. Adding a race interaction substantially changes the model structure and also limits your training data to studies that have harmonized race. Now can you explain why you lied about the study?

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    @SouthernWintrs [Will I Am - e/acc - 1:47 AM · Nov 17, 2023] -- Ablation studies are a very common technique when studying algorithm design.

    You can train the same model with any factor and one without the same factor and compare accuracies.

    This is a very standard study design if one wants to be honest about changes to an algorithm.

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    @SashaGusevPosts -- Steve's not asking for an ablation study, he wants a new model that uses race, which will change the model structure and the training set (to studies that have harmonized race). This after the old model using race was shown to be inferior.

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    @SouthernWintrs -- If you take an honest and good faith reading at what he is saying, he wants the new model to be tested with race being included and excluded as a factor, aka a standard ablation study.

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    @SashaGusevPosts -- It's not an ablation study if you didn't use the feature in building the model! This is basic stuff.

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    @SouthernWintrs -- You can add and remove features in a statistical model pretty easily! Ablation models are even used to add and remove architectural features of a model to test if they have an effect.

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    @SashaGusevPosts -- Adding features is not ablation. And you can't add features that weren't collected in your training data.

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    @SouthernWintrs -- [posts image of text with emphasis added]
    "In Artificial Intelligence (AI), particularly Machine Learning (ML), ablation is the removal of a component of an AI system. An ablation study investigates the performance of an AI system by removing certain components to understand the contribution of the component to the overall system."

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    @SashaGusevPosts -- Your quote confirms my point

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    @SouthernWintrs -- It absolutely does not. A study comparing the model with and without race as a feature would be an ablation study. And given the use of race in previous models, ceteris paribus, you'd need an ablation study to show whether it makes a model better or worse.

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    @SashaGusevPosts -- I can't believe your still having this conversation not knowing the difference between taking an existing feature out of the model (ablation) and adding a new feature (a new model). Sailer really does a number on the brain.

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    @SouthernWintrs -- The original model had race. The new model does not have race. Other things were presumably changed about the model. To make a valid comparison between models to see if race was a factor, you would add race to the new model and compare the new model with and without race as a factor. That is where your ablation study comes in.

    A priori making the decision to not include race when it was included in the previous model and was a significant factor without such a comparison is pretty much scientific malpractice. The only way someone can justify it is on ideological grounds. We know two [sic] things:

    1. Previous model used race
    2. Race was a significant factor in the previous model.
    3. New model doesn't use race.

    Saying that the new model should be tested using race, isn't some crazy out of the world demand. It should be the default position given what we know previously. Without that ablation study, you can't claim that race isn't a significant factor here. You just have no proof for that. Sailer has better proof because the previous model used race and it was a significant factor.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @candid_observer, @res, @jb, @res

    The thing that baffles me about the approach the “Race does not exist” crowd takes in contexts like this is that it seems to contradict the claims they make elsewhere.

    If indeed including race in models does not add any power to prediction of health outcomes, how can it be that it is racism that creates worse outcomes for blacks?

    You see, if adding race as a parameter does not alter the predictions, that does not tell only against relevant genetic differences between blacks and whites, it also tells against relevant environmental differences between them. And yet, according to these same authors, it is supposed to be the massive effects of racism — above and beyond all other environmental factors — that engender worse outcomes in blacks.

    If these authors really believe their claims about racism, why don’t they demand that race be taken into account, lest blacks not be found to be as vulnerable as they are to health issues?

  • iSteve commenter res follows up on that New York Times article I blogged about earlier about how the American Heart Association has stopped asking for race as an input into its algorithm that predicts your risk of heart attack and stroke: Here's a key part of the "scientific statement from the American Heart Association:" The...
  • @candid_observer
    One thing that puzzles me is how extremely woke is all the commentary coming out of the medical profession. It seems as woke as the worst of academia.

    But the political affiliations of the medical profession hardly seem woke -- indeed, it seems to be about as unwoke as it gets among the professions.

    Here's a tweet summarizing the situation as of 2016, when essentially half of all MDs have registered as Republicans -- Republicans!

    https://twitter.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1724893195337666613

    And the more exclusive are the specialties, the more Republican they are.

    How did the medical profession come to be utterly dominated by a faction that must run completely against the scientific and moral sensibilities of such a large and intellectually powerful segment of the community?

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Corvinus

    In contrast to the medical profession, economists in academia are considered quite right wing and unwoke — but their ratio of Democrats to Republicans is about 2 or 3 to 1.

  • One thing that puzzles me is how extremely woke is all the commentary coming out of the medical profession. It seems as woke as the worst of academia.

    But the political affiliations of the medical profession hardly seem woke — indeed, it seems to be about as unwoke as it gets among the professions.

    Here’s a tweet summarizing the situation as of 2016, when essentially half of all MDs have registered as Republicans — Republicans!

    And the more exclusive are the specialties, the more Republican they are.

    How did the medical profession come to be utterly dominated by a faction that must run completely against the scientific and moral sensibilities of such a large and intellectually powerful segment of the community?

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @candid_observer

    In contrast to the medical profession, economists in academia are considered quite right wing and unwoke -- but their ratio of Democrats to Republicans is about 2 or 3 to 1.

    , @Corvinus
    @candid_observer

    “How did the medical profession come to be utterly dominated by a faction that must run completely against the scientific and moral sensibilities of such a large and intellectually powerful segment of the community”

    My vague impression is that you are overgeneralizing here.

    For physicians, there ought to be heightened awareness and training surrounding treatment on politically salient issues. Given the politicization of certain health issues, it is imperative that physicians consider how their own political views may impact their professional judgments.

  • Science used to be about making more accurate predictions, but now it's about affirming dogmas even at the cost of more dead bodies. As we all know, Race Does NOT Exist Biologically. It just doesn't. So therefore, doctors will no longer be allowed to use race in an algorithm predicting risk of heart attack or...
  • @ic1000

    The new equation also has options for including a measure of blood sugar control, called hemoglobin A1C, in people with Type 2 diabetes, and for incorporating a factor called the Social Deprivation Index, which includes poverty, unemployment, education and other factors.

    ...The changes are “great news,” said Dr. David S. Jones, a psychiatrist and professor of the history of medicine at Harvard, who wrote a paper about the use of race in myriad medical decision-making algorithms that was published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2020.

    ...“It’s been hugely gratifying to see how medical thinking has shifted about this issue over the past three to five years,” Dr. Jones said.
     
    The essential question that is obvious to intelligent, numerate, and statistics-informed observers: "Is the predictive value of the algorithm (AUC) improved by adding 'race' to the other named factors (e.g. A1C and the Social Deprivation Index)?"

    Since Times reporter Roni Caryn Rabin doesn't trumpet the answer as "No!," informed observers can figure it out for themselves.

    As foretold by Sinclair and Orwell, there's not a single psychiatrist or professor of the history of medicine at Harvard who grasps this fundamental issue is willing to be quoted as grasping this fundamental issue.

    [Sailer]: Medical thinking, like most American thinking, has been getting dumber during the Racial Reckoning.

    • Agree: ic1000

    Replies: @deep anonymous, @candid_observer, @Anonymous

    It’s not just that, obviously, the predictive power of the algorithm goes down if race is omitted. It’s that it is blacks who will suffer from the loss of predictive power: they, and their doctors, will be less likely to be informed of significant risk of heart disease and so less likely to take corrective measures. In short, they will die more often.

    The dishonesty of the writer here is remarkable. She even brings up the case of an adjustment in how a kidney metric was calculated that originally employed race which, apparently, put blacks at greater risk of not receiving correct treatment. Clearly, she wants the reader to infer that that’s what’s going on in the case of the cardiac algorithm which includes race, when it is certainly the opposite.

    Blacks might ask themselves, with allies like this, who needs hostile racists?

    • Agree: ic1000
  • A lot of name-calling flung at Charles Murray and myself in this strawman-stomping screed by Texas centrist Michael Lind in Compact: I've always liked fellow opinion journalist Michael Lind (here's my positive review of his 2020 book The New Class War) even though he dislikes me. I've learned a lot from him, although it doesn't...
  • @res
    Semi-OT. I think this article from the LA Times today could be an interesting HBD case study.
    Opinion: Geneticists want to close racial health disparities. But a lot of the disparities aren’t genetic
    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-08-13/personalized-medicine-genetics-dna-racial-health-inequities

    One interesting thing about the article is that I think the headline is less extreme than the text. The article is completely focused on "genetic explanation bad" thinking.

    For champions of personalized medicine, gathering genomic information from communities of color is said to be an essential step toward combating the health crises.
    ...
    It would be natural to applaud this well-meaning effort at making the world a more equitable place. Reflecting on an episode from the history of biomedical research, however, should leave us profoundly worried. Genetic endeavors undertaken with even the best of intentions can miss their mark and, in the process, distract from the actual causes of health disparities, with harmful consequences.
    ...
    Sixty years after federal scientists first discovered the diabetes epidemic afflicting the Akimel O’odham, that episode offers a powerful lesson for personalized medicine ambitions of the present. Geneticists today don’t talk about a “thrifty genotype” anymore. That pseudoscientific idea has been expunged from scientific discourse. But the thought that there must be some simple, biological explanation for complex, social problems remains at the heart of personalized medicine.

    That inclination distracts from the actual causes of health disparities. It reinforces the idea that health disparities aren’t something that we need to collectively fix in society; rather, they’re something that people of color need to fix in their genomes. It violates the trust of those who put their faith in a science that promised to help them. And, ultimately, it exacerbates the problem it was intended to resolve.
     
    Hard to argue with his point that the environmental change is the first order cause of the change in obesity among the Akimel O’odham (in particular the timing), but I think he underestimates the possibility that genetics matter for current obesity prevalence. Although the thrifty gene hypothesis seems overstated (it is far from as simple as a single causal gene) I think he underestimates the role of genetics in obesity.

    Two nature vs. nurture rules of thumb which I think are worth remembering.
    1. If a change happens rapidly over time (e.g. the FLynn Effect, obesity) it probably is largely environmental. (to be clear, the change, not necessarily the trait involved)
    2. If differences between groups appear persistently over time it is worth considering at least a partial genetic explanation.

    P.S. Worth noting that the article seems mostly to be publicity for his upcoming (8/15 release) book.
    https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/622502/tyranny-of-the-gene-by-james-tabery/

    Replies: @candid_observer

    Tabery’s analysis is amazingly stupid.

    The entire point of the “thrifty genome” is that diabetes is nowadays common in Indigenous peoples precisely because the environment for which their genome was evolved, in which energy rich food was often scarce, differs from their current environment, in which it is easily accessible. The fact that they have developed diabetes in great numbers after energy rich food became readily available doesn’t tell against the idea of a “thrifty genome”, it is exactly what that theory was intended to explain.

    Talk about “pseudoscience”!

    • Agree: AnotherDad
  • From my new column in Taki's Magazine: Read the whole thing there.
  • One thing I haven’t seen addressed is the potential impact of the Wilson Effect — the fact that IQs are more heritable and more reliable at ages 18+. My recollection is that in some earlier studies of the race gap, it was found that the gap had been becoming distinctly smaller at younger ages, but remained large and constant at 18+ (1.1 SD, I think).

    The age of these students is 10 — which would seem subject to the Wilson Effect. One might guess that the gap would become even larger at 18.

    • Agree: res
  • Good question. From CDC data: Portland and Boston are almost identical in population in the 2020 Census. Weirdly, homicides of residents of Portland's county didn't increase as much, but murders of people in Portland's county exploded. Usually, I just graph homicides of residents of states or counties, rather than homicides within states or counties, because...
  • @Feryl
    It's almost as if Northeastern liberals say the right woke things (and certainly their voting patterns are part of that) but aren't foolish enough to actually practice them relative to other areas, whereas the goofballs on the West Coast walk the walk. In any case, the Northeast has had less and less impact on the rest of the country. The political and cultural heart of America has been drifting further and further South and West in the post-WW2 era, for better or for worse. George Floyd being killed at the edge of the Great Plains probably amplified the effect; had it happened in the Northeast I don't think it ignites the same rage (likewise, the era defining Rodney King Beating happened in sunny SoCal, not in the dank Northeast). Libertine individualism reaches it's apex on the West Coast.

    RE: Art Deco's point about deliberately targeting certain areas, I think it's more the case that Antifa-type whites are simply more like to exist in the Wild West where whites are the most devoid of any ethnic or established cultural group identity whereas Northeastern whites are the most firmly rooted in their identity.

    Replies: @James Braxton, @candid_observer, @Anon, @Nicholas Stix

    I suspect that you’re right that in Boston, and generally on the east coast, there’s a lot more pure virtue signalling than on the west coast. I see Black Lives Matter signs everywhere in the rich suburbs of Boston, but virtually no Black lives.

    Not walking the walk is a good thing.

    There’s a lot to be said for hypocrisy.

    • Replies: @John Milton’s Ghost
    @candid_observer

    Indeed, when protestors 20 years ago shouted “no blood for oil” and then drove home in their SUVs, I thought such hypocrisy was a sign that Americans would eventually return to sanity. They’d recognize that reality required them to adjust their ideology. instead the number of true believers is increasing, with more individuals willing to sacrifice themselves to the gods of race and homosexuality. Throw out SATs, live in dangerous neighborhoods, worry about whiteness rather than blackness.

    Replies: @SFG

    , @Muggles
    @candid_observer

    When the blacks you live with and are among at times, are middle class in values, you are pretty safe.

    At some critical mass you get larger cohorts of uncivilized blacks, young and ignorant, often barely employed. Drug merchants and low level criminals. Too much welfare dependency.

    Blacks themselves usually know this and smart ones live by sensible rules. Avoid bad black neighborhoods.

    There seems to be more openly expressed racism in the NE.

    In Portland, this is the ideological corruption of white liberalism transformed into Woke communist ideology. There, pro criminal ideology feeds crime and attracts more criminals, like flies on shit.

    Boston hasn't turned protecting society over to Antifa, like Portland. So it may be liberal Democrat but not insane Woke Democrat. But I can't say I have any personal insight into either place.

    , @Dutch Boy
    @candid_observer

    "The tribute that vice pays to virtue."

  • Paul Johnson argued in his New History of Art that Rome was "A Civilization Cast in Concrete." But what caused ancient Roman concrete to be so much more durable than modern Brutalist concrete is one of the great historical mysteries. The Pantheon in Rome is 1987 years old, for instance, but it remains in great...
  • I wonder how the Romans might have hit upon a mixture that was so much more durable than even modern concrete. The mixers wouldn’t be around the hundred or more years later when the difference would clearly have been noticeable. Would there be detectable differences on a much shorter timetable — say, within a career of an artisan?

    Or was it just dumb luck?

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
    @candid_observer

    Rome was quite literally built on the stuff (trass/perlite) -
    it´s basically a weathered volcanic ash and was quarried all underneath the Urbs
    (-> catacombs); add water and quicklime (long known for mortar and wallpaint)
    et voilà!
    Modern Portland cement is calcinated and ground marl, the bulk chemistry
    and mineralogy are not comparable (the addition of fly ash or ground glass
    for extra-hard concrete partially emulates the Roman recipe).
    For things like the Pantheon the Romans also used pumice and ceramic shards
    instead of sand to make it lighter - contrary to Asterix they weren´t stupid ;)

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @candid_observer


    I wonder how the Romans might have hit upon a mixture that was so much more durable than even modern concrete.
     
    I would say it was common sense, like the proprietary formula my father used. Think about it: When you mix a binding ingredient into cement, it stands to help hold it together. Asbestos is a mineral fiber perfectly suited to this, and nobody had to wait very long to realize that it would bind together the concrete structures my father manufactured.

    It was self-evident -- and it would continue be used today if not for the lawyer-induced-for-profit panic about asbestos.*

    As to what the Romans really used, I am still curious and waiting to find out...

    *Asbestos caused lung cancers in the factory men who breathed in fibers floating in the air. Bound into concrete it is harmless and very useful. It is a mineral fiber, for God's sake -- an extremely useful material.

    But no, now it is a bogeyman, something to be avoided at all costs, despite the fact that it could still be used and worked with with proper procedures... You know, kind of like nuclear energy and the internal combustion engine and a million other Evil White Man tools...

    Dad brought home to me actual asbestos rocks from his company's mine. He brought them home for me to play with. I picked them up with my electric, toy crane when I was five years old. I peeled away the white fibers from the greenish rocks.

    I'm still alive, about to turn 63, and extremely healthy and strong...


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM0zINtulhM

    Replies: @Jack D, @Anon, @Anonymous

  • My eight-year-old once asked me why a dollar bill is worth a dollar. I'm still kind of stumped by that question, so I never grasped cryptocurrencies. In contrast, 30-year-old Sam Bankman-Fried did and rode his understanding of cryptocurrencies to a maximum wealth of $26 billion. Along the way he became in recent election cycles the...
  • Isn’t the innovation of cryptocurrency to improve upon the tulip market by removing the tulips?

    • Thanks: Rob McX, Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @candid_observer

    Or modern "art" without the hassle of having to store all that junk somewhere.

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @candid_observer


    Isn’t the innovation of cryptocurrency to improve upon the tulip market by removing the tulips?
     
    That's exactly what our hyper-financialized and digitized markets do for everything. For example, there is something like 140 times the world's actual supply of physical gold that people own (or think they own). This is called "paper gold," except it's not even paper, but entries on a digital spreadsheet in the cloud somewhere.

    Crypto is just the end product of hyper-financialization taken to its logical endpoint: a market in digital nothing.
  • I wonder if part of the answer might be that UK has a faster feedback mechanism than does the US. The Parliamentary government of UK might induce more rapid feedback generally.

    The US system is about to get a major shock in the midterm elections. A massive rejection of the left will propagate up the hierarchy of leftist institutions, hitting first the Dem party, then the media supporting it, then (though to a lesser extent) the NGOs and academics behind the most extreme leftist policies.

    But even the best insulated segments, the NGOs and academics, will likely feel obliged to pull back on their positions if they are themselves spurned as embarrassments by both the media and the Dem party.

    • Thanks: Mark G.
  • From The Atlantic: THE END OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION WOULD BE A DISASTER The discrimination experienced by Black Americans over centuries has simply not been undone. By Lee C. Bollinger and Geoffrey R. Stone Lee C. Bollinger is the 19th president of Columbia University and co-author, with Geoffrey R. Stone, of the forthcoming A Legacy of...
  • The argument in the article is rather bizarre.

    The authors emphasize that, over the last almost 20 years of aggressive Affirmative Action, blacks haven’t improved their lot.

    And somehow this becomes a case for continuing Affirmative Action, rather than discontinuing it for abject failure to produce the intended effect?

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @candid_observer

    Agree.

    "Communism just hasn't been tried hard enough."

    "Capitalist wreckers to blame."

    =

    "AA just hasn't been tried hard enough."

    "Whites to blame."

    , @Bill Jones
    @candid_observer


    The argument in the article is rather bizarre.
     
    And there you go again. White man's logic.
  • Shamefully, a tenured professor has been fired for publishing the landmark 2019 study, "Global Ancestry and Cognitive Ability" demonstrating a linkage between intelligence and racial admixture as measured by DNA. (This finding was replicated with a different database in 2021, a second admixture study that I described in some detail here if you want to...
  • @loveshumanity
    @Rich


    How so? The Turing test?
     
    The Halting problem

    Replies: @Rich, @Cloudbuster, @candid_observer

    Well, the the proof of the halting problem was a fairly straightforward reworking of Godel’s proof of his first Incompleteness theorem. And Alonzo Church beat Turing to the punch on the result, though he cast it in terms of his ugly lambda calculus. Perhaps Turing’s biggest claim to fame was his articulation of the Turing machine, which was a nice encapsulation of what it means to be computable.

    Turing was very important as a computer scientist, but he’s not exactly in the company of the greatest mathematicians of the last century.

    • Agree: Rich
  • Color me unimpressed. My guess is that we don't yet have much of a clue of how genetics ties into the gestalt of facial features. It's a tricky subject. For example, here's businessman Doug Pitt and his older brother Brad. Doug is a handsome guy, but he's no Brad Pitt. Old-time novelists devoted an immense...
  • I wonder how much of our ignorance of the genetic correlates of facial features comes from a poverty of phenotype data.

    How many of those in the data stores for GWAS studies have pictures connected to the genotype data?

    It would seem pretty easy to gather such photos, but I suspect it might not be permissible to use those photos, since they would identify the contributors. Even abstracted data, such as distance between eyes, etc., might be enough to do so.

  • From the blog The Splintered Mind: reflections in philosophy of psychology, broadly construed: Dennett is a famous American philosopher who has published numerous books over the last 40 years, some purely academic, some aimed at a high-end non-philosophy grad students. He has been interviewed frequently. We asked Dennett ten philosophical questions, then posed those same...
  • @candid_observer
    @PhysicistDave

    Here, from Wikipedia, is a quick and good enough summary of the Hard Problem:


    The hard problem of consciousness is the problem of explaining why and how humans have qualia[note 1] or phenomenal experiences.[2] This is in contrast to the "easy problems" of explaining the physical systems that give us and other animals the ability to discriminate, integrate information, and so forth. These problems are seen as relatively easy because all that is required for their solution is to specify the mechanisms that perform such functions.[3][4] Philosopher David Chalmers writes that even once we have solved all such problems about the brain and experience, the hard problem will still persist.[3]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousness

    The chief point is that, say, Chalmers grants that science may come up with a full explanation of all brain states, which would imply perfect predictability (which is the so-called "easy problem"), without any explanation of subjective experiences or mental states such as qualia. Insofar as something explains the existence of qualia, it goes beyond standard science which addresses empirical matters. Chalmers assumes that standard science can, at least in principle, get all empirical matters correctly, and that there's no strange set of forces that would allow brain states to deviate from their expected paths. Put another way, qualia, and mental states, do not have causal effects that would induce alterations in the physical world as standard science understands it.

    The Hard Problem is that qualia seem nonetheless to exist, and demand some kind of explanation. But what is that explanation? Standard science, which predicts only things in the physical world, cannot do so.

    I brought up the comparison to the existence of ESP. Sean Carrol has made the point that science really doesn't seem to have any wiggle room for radically new phenomena at certain scales. It would certainly seem that the behavior of brain states are at such a scale. I think it's fair enough to say that in the end brain states are reducible to the interactions between neurons in our brains. But the behavior of individual neurons in our brains seem to be perfectly predictable based on standard chemical and electrical principles, even if we don't yet know all the details. Likewise, we certainly don't yet have all the details relevant to how these neurons interact as a network, but there seems to be no room for a deviation from how the set of individual neurons in fact would be predicted to act.

    I ask, where is the wiggle room in this understanding of how the brain behaves? Where's the opportunity for either a totally separate set of entities, such as qualia, or for ESP, to alter these otherwise perfectly predictable physical processes?

    Replies: @candid_observer

    I’d press the analogy to ESP a bit further.

    Against ESP we have the standard science of brain states which requires, and finds, no room for ESP to act, and sets a very low prior for ESP being true. In favor of ESP, we have only very dubious experiments, typically contradicted by other experiments.

    Against separate mental states we have the standard science of brain states, which finds no room for separate mental states to act, and no reason to posit their existence, and sets a very low prior for the existence of separate mental states to be true. In favor of separate mental states, we have only quite dubious metaphysical arguments and intuitions. Suffice it to say, metaphysical arguments and intuitions don’t enjoy a record of great reliability.

    Why should we be far more convinced of separate mental states than of ESP?

  • @PhysicistDave
    @candid_observer

    candid_observer wrote to me:


    The first is that the common understanding of the so-called Hard Problem of Consciousness is that it is Hard precisely because science will never explain it. That is, those who point to the existence of the Hard Problem assume that, from the standpoint of science, there will never be a scientific account of consciousness: mental states exist as a separate substance from brain states, but are perfectly correlated with brain states, and brain states have an entirely physical explanation.
     
    Have you read Chalmers or McGinn?

    Both believe there is a "hard problem of consciousness" (after all, Chalmers invented the phrase!) but both have actually suggested possible solutions, so obviously they are not dogmatically asserting that the problem is insoluble! McGinn is pessimistic about finding an adequate answer, but he is not dogmatic about it.

    You also seem to be equating those who believe there is a "hard problem of consciousness" with Cartesian dualists.

    That is an error. Some lean towards dual-aspect theories, some lean towards panpsychism, some lean towards neutral monism, etc. There is a wide range of possibilities, almost certainly wider than we humans have yet imagined. The point is that it is hard to know which, if any, of those possibilities is correct: hence, the "hard" problem of consciousness.

    A few years ago, I had a chance to chat with Gerald Schenider, a nueroscience prof at MIT about just this issue -- he volunteered his view (before I had indicated my own view), and it is pretty much what I am saying here.

    Scientific research is often hard: e.g., the problem of combining quantum mechanics with General Relativity is hard, really, really hard (let me tell you 'bout it!). Does not mean it is insoluble.

    co also wrote:

    The same considerations apply to the notion that consciousness might alter our brain states. If there were forces able to effect such changes, we’d presumably already know about them.
     
    We would? How do you know this?

    I will tell you, as a PhD physicist who is married to a biologist and who has a longstanding interest in this, that, no, we would not know. At a simple experimental level, it would be enormously harder than you seem to think.

    Non-scientists seem to be much, much more certain about various matters of science than most of us scientists are!

    Read Phil Goff's book.

    Replies: @candid_observer

    Here, from Wikipedia, is a quick and good enough summary of the Hard Problem:

    The hard problem of consciousness is the problem of explaining why and how humans have qualia[note 1] or phenomenal experiences.[2] This is in contrast to the “easy problems” of explaining the physical systems that give us and other animals the ability to discriminate, integrate information, and so forth. These problems are seen as relatively easy because all that is required for their solution is to specify the mechanisms that perform such functions.[3][4] Philosopher David Chalmers writes that even once we have solved all such problems about the brain and experience, the hard problem will still persist.[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousness

    The chief point is that, say, Chalmers grants that science may come up with a full explanation of all brain states, which would imply perfect predictability (which is the so-called “easy problem”), without any explanation of subjective experiences or mental states such as qualia. Insofar as something explains the existence of qualia, it goes beyond standard science which addresses empirical matters. Chalmers assumes that standard science can, at least in principle, get all empirical matters correctly, and that there’s no strange set of forces that would allow brain states to deviate from their expected paths. Put another way, qualia, and mental states, do not have causal effects that would induce alterations in the physical world as standard science understands it.

    The Hard Problem is that qualia seem nonetheless to exist, and demand some kind of explanation. But what is that explanation? Standard science, which predicts only things in the physical world, cannot do so.

    I brought up the comparison to the existence of ESP. Sean Carrol has made the point that science really doesn’t seem to have any wiggle room for radically new phenomena at certain scales. It would certainly seem that the behavior of brain states are at such a scale. I think it’s fair enough to say that in the end brain states are reducible to the interactions between neurons in our brains. But the behavior of individual neurons in our brains seem to be perfectly predictable based on standard chemical and electrical principles, even if we don’t yet know all the details. Likewise, we certainly don’t yet have all the details relevant to how these neurons interact as a network, but there seems to be no room for a deviation from how the set of individual neurons in fact would be predicted to act.

    I ask, where is the wiggle room in this understanding of how the brain behaves? Where’s the opportunity for either a totally separate set of entities, such as qualia, or for ESP, to alter these otherwise perfectly predictable physical processes?

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @candid_observer

    I'd press the analogy to ESP a bit further.

    Against ESP we have the standard science of brain states which requires, and finds, no room for ESP to act, and sets a very low prior for ESP being true. In favor of ESP, we have only very dubious experiments, typically contradicted by other experiments.

    Against separate mental states we have the standard science of brain states, which finds no room for separate mental states to act, and no reason to posit their existence, and sets a very low prior for the existence of separate mental states to be true. In favor of separate mental states, we have only quite dubious metaphysical arguments and intuitions. Suffice it to say, metaphysical arguments and intuitions don't enjoy a record of great reliability.

    Why should we be far more convinced of separate mental states than of ESP?

  • @PhysicistDave
    @candid_observer

    candid_observer wrote to Bill P:


    So are we to say that, somehow, consciousness just arose, rather magically, as a distinct substance at some point in evolution? Or that it actually co-occurs with all material objects, even though we don’t see evidence of it except with certain animals?

    Isn’t either of those assertions just a little at odds with our conception of the world as science would seem to show it?
     
    Well, why not?

    I have to tell you, speaking as a physicist, I would not find the possibilities you raise any weirder than the strange properties of quantum mechanics.

    co also asked:

    And you talk about the causal influence of consciousness. Here I’ve got a bone to pick. Are you actually claiming that consciousness influences what happens in our real world in a way in which science would never be able to account for?
     
    Well, "never" is a long time!

    But, again, as a physicist, I have no trouble at all imagining there are things in the real world we cannot yet account for. Indeed, I can give a list: dark matter, the measurement problem in quantum mechanics, the mass parameters in the Standard Model, and, yes, consciousness.

    co also asked:

    Do you really want to say that if we think of the world as being composed of particles and physical forces, etc., we won’t be able to account for, and, at least in principle, predict everything that will take place in the world?
     
    Prior to the twentieth century, we had no inkling at all of the strong or weak nuclear forces, both of which, we now know, play central roles in the nature of reality.

    Modern science goes back less than five centuries.

    Why shouldn't there be similar surprises in the future?

    Note: I am an atheist, and I rather doubt that our consciousness survives our physical death.

    But I know way too much about modern physics to think that we have all the answers.

    We just don't.

    Replies: @candid_observer

    A couple points to make here in response.

    The first is that the common understanding of the so-called Hard Problem of Consciousness is that it is Hard precisely because science will never explain it. That is, those who point to the existence of the Hard Problem assume that, from the standpoint of science, there will never be a scientific account of consciousness: mental states exist as a separate substance from brain states, but are perfectly correlated with brain states, and brain states have an entirely physical explanation. What you are suggesting instead is that there may very well be a new, scientific explanation for consciousness.

    The second point is that the physics behind brain states is far more pedestrian, and better understood, than you seem to grant. The same point has been made against the existence of ESP, as in the following debate between Steve Pinker and the physicist Josephson. Sure, physics still has important unresolved issues — but not at the scale that would affect the workings of brain states that would allow for ESP:

    But should we go meta, and adjust the priors to acknowledge the possibility that our understanding of physics is incomplete and yet-to-be-discovered laws might explain how psychic powers are possible? Though many phenomena at extreme scales of space and energy—near the Big Bang or a black hole, at the size of a photon or of a galaxy—are incompletely understood, this cannot be said about the physics of everyday life. As Sean Carroll shows in The Big Picture, on these scales, from nanotech to moon rockets, the laws of physics are completely understood. We aren’t in need of strange new forces or fields to explain how a bicycle works, or why eclipses happen. Carroll takes the argument a step further: our understanding is so complete that if there were as-yet unidentified fields in addition to those underlying gravity, electromagnetism and so on, we would be able to detect them, and we don’t.

    https://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/debate-is-belief-in-esp-irrational/

    The same considerations apply to the notion that consciousness might alter our brain states. If there were forces able to effect such changes, we’d presumably already know about them.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @candid_observer

    candid_observer wrote to me:


    The first is that the common understanding of the so-called Hard Problem of Consciousness is that it is Hard precisely because science will never explain it. That is, those who point to the existence of the Hard Problem assume that, from the standpoint of science, there will never be a scientific account of consciousness: mental states exist as a separate substance from brain states, but are perfectly correlated with brain states, and brain states have an entirely physical explanation.
     
    Have you read Chalmers or McGinn?

    Both believe there is a "hard problem of consciousness" (after all, Chalmers invented the phrase!) but both have actually suggested possible solutions, so obviously they are not dogmatically asserting that the problem is insoluble! McGinn is pessimistic about finding an adequate answer, but he is not dogmatic about it.

    You also seem to be equating those who believe there is a "hard problem of consciousness" with Cartesian dualists.

    That is an error. Some lean towards dual-aspect theories, some lean towards panpsychism, some lean towards neutral monism, etc. There is a wide range of possibilities, almost certainly wider than we humans have yet imagined. The point is that it is hard to know which, if any, of those possibilities is correct: hence, the "hard" problem of consciousness.

    A few years ago, I had a chance to chat with Gerald Schenider, a nueroscience prof at MIT about just this issue -- he volunteered his view (before I had indicated my own view), and it is pretty much what I am saying here.

    Scientific research is often hard: e.g., the problem of combining quantum mechanics with General Relativity is hard, really, really hard (let me tell you 'bout it!). Does not mean it is insoluble.

    co also wrote:

    The same considerations apply to the notion that consciousness might alter our brain states. If there were forces able to effect such changes, we’d presumably already know about them.
     
    We would? How do you know this?

    I will tell you, as a PhD physicist who is married to a biologist and who has a longstanding interest in this, that, no, we would not know. At a simple experimental level, it would be enormously harder than you seem to think.

    Non-scientists seem to be much, much more certain about various matters of science than most of us scientists are!

    Read Phil Goff's book.

    Replies: @candid_observer

  • @candid_observer
    @Bill P

    So are we to say that, somehow, consciousness just arose, rather magically, as a distinct substance at some point in evolution? Or that it actually co-occurs with all material objects, even though we don't see evidence of it except with certain animals?

    Isn't either of those assertions just a little at odds with our conception of the world as science would seem to show it?

    And you talk about the causal influence of consciousness. Here I've got a bone to pick. Are you actually claiming that consciousness influences what happens in our real world in a way in which science would never be able to account for? Do you really want to say that if we think of the world as being composed of particles and physical forces, etc., we won't be able to account for, and, at least in principle, predict everything that will take place in the world? (Yes, quantum phenomena make this a little messier, but essentially never at a level that affects thoughts or emotions.) If physical phenomena determine basically all cognitive activity, what's left for the causal influence of consciousness?

    The big problem with consciousness as a separate substance is that it adds zero to our understanding of the real world, which is entirely determined by physical phenomena. We need it like we need God.

    Replies: @candid_observer, @PhysicistDave

    Just to continue the final point I was making:

    Do you think that consciousness can somehow alter the path that physical entities and forces are taking in the brain? Can it make an electron swerve that otherwise wouldn’t? Can it change the quantum probabilities? How does it do its causal business in our physical world?

    And if it can’t change a damn thing, what is it doing for us?

  • @Bill P
    @candid_observer

    Consider that science is our most useful tool for revealing facts about the material world, yet the consciously formed concepts we make use of to engage in scientific efforts are not themselves subject to the scientific method. Can one observe or measure truth, inductive reasoning or mathematics?

    Hence stating that because science has nothing to say about consciousness then it must not exist begs the question.

    This is what makes the problem hard: it can't be answered by the conventions we've developed to explain the natural world because these conventions are themselves based on immaterial concepts.

    However, we aren't entirely helpless here, as immaterial laws have a consistency that leads to further discovery. Without that consistency there would be no science, no language and no logic. Probably no being, either.

    Consciousness is simply a term that posits a causal influence from this immaterial realm of rules of mind. If being is contingent upon this influence, then consciousness is fundamental to existence and permeates everything in "our very real world."

    Replies: @candid_observer

    So are we to say that, somehow, consciousness just arose, rather magically, as a distinct substance at some point in evolution? Or that it actually co-occurs with all material objects, even though we don’t see evidence of it except with certain animals?

    Isn’t either of those assertions just a little at odds with our conception of the world as science would seem to show it?

    And you talk about the causal influence of consciousness. Here I’ve got a bone to pick. Are you actually claiming that consciousness influences what happens in our real world in a way in which science would never be able to account for? Do you really want to say that if we think of the world as being composed of particles and physical forces, etc., we won’t be able to account for, and, at least in principle, predict everything that will take place in the world? (Yes, quantum phenomena make this a little messier, but essentially never at a level that affects thoughts or emotions.) If physical phenomena determine basically all cognitive activity, what’s left for the causal influence of consciousness?

    The big problem with consciousness as a separate substance is that it adds zero to our understanding of the real world, which is entirely determined by physical phenomena. We need it like we need God.

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @candid_observer

    Just to continue the final point I was making:

    Do you think that consciousness can somehow alter the path that physical entities and forces are taking in the brain? Can it make an electron swerve that otherwise wouldn't? Can it change the quantum probabilities? How does it do its causal business in our physical world?

    And if it can't change a damn thing, what is it doing for us?

    , @PhysicistDave
    @candid_observer

    candid_observer wrote to Bill P:


    So are we to say that, somehow, consciousness just arose, rather magically, as a distinct substance at some point in evolution? Or that it actually co-occurs with all material objects, even though we don’t see evidence of it except with certain animals?

    Isn’t either of those assertions just a little at odds with our conception of the world as science would seem to show it?
     
    Well, why not?

    I have to tell you, speaking as a physicist, I would not find the possibilities you raise any weirder than the strange properties of quantum mechanics.

    co also asked:

    And you talk about the causal influence of consciousness. Here I’ve got a bone to pick. Are you actually claiming that consciousness influences what happens in our real world in a way in which science would never be able to account for?
     
    Well, "never" is a long time!

    But, again, as a physicist, I have no trouble at all imagining there are things in the real world we cannot yet account for. Indeed, I can give a list: dark matter, the measurement problem in quantum mechanics, the mass parameters in the Standard Model, and, yes, consciousness.

    co also asked:

    Do you really want to say that if we think of the world as being composed of particles and physical forces, etc., we won’t be able to account for, and, at least in principle, predict everything that will take place in the world?
     
    Prior to the twentieth century, we had no inkling at all of the strong or weak nuclear forces, both of which, we now know, play central roles in the nature of reality.

    Modern science goes back less than five centuries.

    Why shouldn't there be similar surprises in the future?

    Note: I am an atheist, and I rather doubt that our consciousness survives our physical death.

    But I know way too much about modern physics to think that we have all the answers.

    We just don't.

    Replies: @candid_observer

  • @Deckin
    @candid_observer

    Is this what you call a 'defense of dualism'?

    "Having expressed these doubts about the identity theory in the text, I should emphasize two things: first, identity theorists have presented positive arguments for their view, which I certainly have not answered here...Second, rejection of the identity thesis does not imply acceptance of Cartesian dualism. In fact, my view...implicitly suggests a rejection of the Cartesian picture...In any event, Descartes notion seems to have been rendered dubious ever since Hume's critique of the notion of a Cartesian self."

    Naming and Necessity, p. 155, note

    Now there certainly are kinds of dualism that aren't Cartesian, but you might want to be precise here. Are you claiming he's a property dualist?

    Replies: @candid_observer

    Well, I should have been more precise about how Kripke thought about dualism: he did indeed put up a defense of dualism (or at least a set of strong arguments for dualism) — very similar indeed to that which Chalmers and others produced — but that he was nonetheless unconvinced of it, because of countervailing considerations. As he says at the very end of the note you refer to:

    I regard the mind-body problem as wide open and extremely confusing.

    But, again, the arguments he produces in favor of dualism are essentially those of Chalmers, and certainly predate him.

    Kripke’s larger argument is found in this excerpt from Naming and Necessity:

    https://rintintin.colorado.edu/~vancecd/phil375/Kripke3.pdf

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
  • @candid_observer
    @Whereismyhandle

    Kripke famously put up a defense of dualism in Naming and Necessity. Kripke is perhaps the most highly regarded philosopher of the 30-40 years.

    When I first heard of Chalmers, my first reaction was, what did he add to Kripke's argument? To this day, I'm not sure what fundamental improvement Chalmers has made upon Kripke.

    Chalmers was rather clever in his nomenclature. The "Hard Problem of Consciousness" has stuck pretty well over the years.

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Deckin

    The thing about dualism and the Hard Problem of Consciousness is that the so-called Hardness quickly becomes an embarrassment.

    If there’s just no scientific accounting of Consciousness, when and where and how did it first come about? Did it pop into existence at some point in the evolution of life? Or does it inherently co-occur with all material things, and only becomes evident in certain organisms? Doesn’t any answer to these questions seem little short of invoking magic?

    The Harder the Problem is, the more it seems like a reductio ad absurdum of dualism. The rational response to it should be, let’s get rid of this consciousness-as-a-separate-substance stuff. The arguments for dualism might seem to make sense, as metaphysical arguments often do, but they can’t possibly hold up in our very real world.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @candid_observer

    I could never understand why would anyone think there is some "hard problem of consciousness", our ordinary human consciousness.

    Various beings perceive the world "out there" differently, so far as their nervous systems are developed differently. Ants differently; frogs differently; sharks differently; dogs differently; humans differently. There is no mystery & there is no question. "Consciousness" is just a specific, species-determined way of interaction of neural systems with the world.

    Their perceptions & reactions vary, but there is no such thing as "consciousness"- it's just that they got ganglia or brain (of course that bacteria don't have "consciousness") and interact with the world "out there" in different ways.

    Only in full-blown metaphysical systems like variants of Mahayana Buddhism it does make sense: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogachara. Otherwise, not.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    , @Bill P
    @candid_observer

    Consider that science is our most useful tool for revealing facts about the material world, yet the consciously formed concepts we make use of to engage in scientific efforts are not themselves subject to the scientific method. Can one observe or measure truth, inductive reasoning or mathematics?

    Hence stating that because science has nothing to say about consciousness then it must not exist begs the question.

    This is what makes the problem hard: it can't be answered by the conventions we've developed to explain the natural world because these conventions are themselves based on immaterial concepts.

    However, we aren't entirely helpless here, as immaterial laws have a consistency that leads to further discovery. Without that consistency there would be no science, no language and no logic. Probably no being, either.

    Consciousness is simply a term that posits a causal influence from this immaterial realm of rules of mind. If being is contingent upon this influence, then consciousness is fundamental to existence and permeates everything in "our very real world."

    Replies: @candid_observer

  • @Whereismyhandle
    @Bill P

    My guess, and I'm not his best friend or anything so this is just speculation, is that Chalmers thought if anyone could do AI then he could. He's extremely brilliant and he was working with other brilliant people in this AI lab.

    He then decided to hit the reset button and reexamine his premises and if there was "stuff" going on with humans that he couldn't do with a LISP machine.

    It's kind of just a qualitatively different question then "how do I build a better widget"; ie, metaphysical.
    He saw better chess machines coming and all of that. His question was different, hence the "hard" problem he formulated.

    My professor's story (I'm a millennial so dualism was certainly live when I entered the field) was that dualism had been left for dead when Chalmers came out with it. So hard materialists like Dennett, eg, praised it as work that needed a response. An exaggeration, no doubt, but I can certainly imagine it landing like a bomb.

    Replies: @Bill P, @candid_observer

    Kripke famously put up a defense of dualism in Naming and Necessity. Kripke is perhaps the most highly regarded philosopher of the 30-40 years.

    When I first heard of Chalmers, my first reaction was, what did he add to Kripke’s argument? To this day, I’m not sure what fundamental improvement Chalmers has made upon Kripke.

    Chalmers was rather clever in his nomenclature. The “Hard Problem of Consciousness” has stuck pretty well over the years.

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @candid_observer

    The thing about dualism and the Hard Problem of Consciousness is that the so-called Hardness quickly becomes an embarrassment.

    If there's just no scientific accounting of Consciousness, when and where and how did it first come about? Did it pop into existence at some point in the evolution of life? Or does it inherently co-occur with all material things, and only becomes evident in certain organisms? Doesn't any answer to these questions seem little short of invoking magic?

    The Harder the Problem is, the more it seems like a reductio ad absurdum of dualism. The rational response to it should be, let's get rid of this consciousness-as-a-separate-substance stuff. The arguments for dualism might seem to make sense, as metaphysical arguments often do, but they can't possibly hold up in our very real world.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Bill P

    , @Deckin
    @candid_observer

    Is this what you call a 'defense of dualism'?

    "Having expressed these doubts about the identity theory in the text, I should emphasize two things: first, identity theorists have presented positive arguments for their view, which I certainly have not answered here...Second, rejection of the identity thesis does not imply acceptance of Cartesian dualism. In fact, my view...implicitly suggests a rejection of the Cartesian picture...In any event, Descartes notion seems to have been rendered dubious ever since Hume's critique of the notion of a Cartesian self."

    Naming and Necessity, p. 155, note

    Now there certainly are kinds of dualism that aren't Cartesian, but you might want to be precise here. Are you claiming he's a property dualist?

    Replies: @candid_observer

  • From Reuters: Also from Reuters: Getting rid of the LSAT to get into law school isn't going to narrow the race gap in passing the bar exam 3 years later. The single most important thing lawyers do -- write contracts -- is a sort of late medieval form of computer programming. You need to understand
  • I recently became quite aware of just how much legal language can be like computer programming.

    The definition of inheritance by representation, as stated in certain state laws, actually involves recursion. It took me a serious thinking to assure myself I understood it right — and there was a lot of money at stake.

    And this is an issue a pretty standard local lawyer might have to deal with in handling an estate.

  • From my column in Taki's Magazine: The Price of Admission Steve Sailer May 04, 2022 In recent weeks, American college admissions departments sent out to high school student applicants millions of thick envelopes (good news) and thin envelopes (bad news). But finding out what colleges decided in aggregate is becoming increasingly difficult as more universities...
  • Imagine what would happen if the SC decided to reject Affirmative Action.

    I’d think that if they can bring themselves to retract Roe v Wade, they should be able to forbid Affirmative Action in federally funded institutions.

    I hope that they haven’t squandered whatever courage they may have on rescinding Roe v Wade, which, in my view, may have been bad jurisprudence, but reasonable policy.

    • Replies: @Batman
    @candid_observer

    SCOTUS needs not only to eliminate affirmative action but also to reverse Griggs v. Duke Power. Universities only became such big business because they're the only step in the worker pipeline that's allowed to give kids intelligence tests. A Harvard degree used to be a credential demonstrating that you were high enough IQ to do well on the SAT and that you're smart and diligent enough to graduate from there. Harvard loses most of its importance if employers can directly test the intelligence of applicants.

    , @Jack D
    @candid_observer

    they should be able to forbid Affirmative Action in federally funded institutions

    EVERY university is a federally funded institution. It's pretty much impossible to avoid entanglement with the government to an extent that would allow you to remain immune from any Supreme Court ruling against Affirmative Action.

    I think that Affirmative Action will be the next to go. It's clear that the ideological balance of the court has shifted. The liberals can almost always peel off one so called "conservative" (nowadays Roberts) but they can't peel off two.

    The Constitutional grounds for the Court's AA cases were almost as shaky as those for abortion. Generally speaking any type of racial discrimination is highly suspect and AA was allowed to slip by "temporarily" until the Negroes caught up. It's quite obvious now that the Negroes ain't never gonna catch up and the existence of permanent racially preferences is as corrosive to the Constitutional order now as it was during Jim Crow. Putting blacks on top is no better Constitutionally then putting whites on top. It spits in the face of the fundamental principle of equality before the law.

  • The good news we've learned since Russian invaded Ukraine back on February 24 is that Russia is militarily weaker than most people expected. The future is unwritten, so this could change with time. After all, the Red Army that invaded Finland in November 1939 was a lot less competent than the Red Army that invaded...
  • @candid_observer
    @Anon

    This analysis is interesting, but it is from April 1.

    What I never seem to run into is any credible account of how the Ukrainian military is faring today, and what its prospects are.

    Russia supposedly was cutting off supplies, etc. to the bulk of the Ukrainian military in the south and east -- but did this really happen?

    What's left of the Ukrainian military at this point? If the supplies can't get to most of it, of what account is the Western initiative to supply them with weapons?

    Everybody's talking about the Russian military -- but we know little to nothing about the Ukrainian military.

    Is Ukraine going to be reduced to fighting a guerilla war? That would be ugly and likely pointless from a Ukrainian point of view. What would they be fighting for? Possible NATO membership? Really?

    Replies: @candid_observer

    The Ukrainian military has a very simple and effective strategy for opposing the Russian advance: retreat to cities, and, in effect, use the civilian population as a human shield. In today’s world, this works very well because no advanced nation wants to be held responsible for high civilian deaths.

    I wonder if the Ukrainian military has already been reduced to this tactic. I see no evidence that they’ve ever been able to prevail in open countryside, where it is military vs military.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @candid_observer

    I


    n today’s world, this works very well because no advanced nation wants to be held responsible for high civilian deaths.
     
    Too bad Russia isn't an advanced nation. There are tens of thousands of dead in Mariupol alone and the entire city has been bombed to rubble. Putin has no qualms against killing civilians. He has no qualms about getting his own people killed either.

    I just heard Guterres on the radio in effect denouncing Russia for war crimes. The head of the UN is normally neutral but Guterres was unable to maintain a neutral stance as he was standing in front of mass (civilian) graves outside of Kyiv.

    I understand that a lot of people here hate America and America is not a complete innocent, but Putin is a war criminal. It is sick that you are supporting a war criminal and minimizing his foul deeds just because he hates America like you do.

    Replies: @fredyetagain aka superhonky

  • @Anon
    @PhysicistDave

    Your analysis is spot on. Ukraine forces are now sustaining disproportionately heavy losses in men and material— KIAs and surrenders (like Izyum today)— and I’m not sure how many days they have left. It’s not Russia but the West which is becoming desperate and reckless with how bad things are going for Ukrainian resistance. The proxy economic war failed. The proxy kinetic war failed.

    Here’s good overall sitrep analysis from 1-April 2022 by Jacques Baud, a former colonel of the General Staff, ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence service and has worked for NATO on Ukraine, has worked closely with and trained with U.S. and U.K. militaries, and has an extensive military and intelligence background:


    From an operational point of view, the Russian offensive was an example of its kind: in six days, the Russians seized a territory as large as the United Kingdom, with a speed of advance greater than what the Wehrmacht had achieved in 1940. The bulk of the Ukrainian army was deployed in the south of the country in preparation for a major operation against the Donbass. This is why Russian forces were able to encircle it from the beginning of March in the “cauldron” between Slavyansk, Kramatorsk and Severodonetsk, with a thrust from the East through Kharkov and another from the South from Crimea. Troops from the Donetsk (DPR) and Lugansk (LPR) Republics are complementing the Russian forces with a push from the East. At this stage, Russian forces are slowly tightening the noose, but are no longer under time pressure. Their demilitarization goal is all but achieved and the remaining Ukrainian forces no longer have an operational and strategic command structure. The “slowdown” that our “experts” attribute to poor logistics is only the consequence of having achieved their objectives. Russia does not seem to want to engage in an occupation of the entire Ukrainian territory. In fact, it seems that Russia is trying to limit its advance to the linguistic border of the country.

    https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-situation-in-the-ukraine/

     

    Replies: @candid_observer

    This analysis is interesting, but it is from April 1.

    What I never seem to run into is any credible account of how the Ukrainian military is faring today, and what its prospects are.

    Russia supposedly was cutting off supplies, etc. to the bulk of the Ukrainian military in the south and east — but did this really happen?

    What’s left of the Ukrainian military at this point? If the supplies can’t get to most of it, of what account is the Western initiative to supply them with weapons?

    Everybody’s talking about the Russian military — but we know little to nothing about the Ukrainian military.

    Is Ukraine going to be reduced to fighting a guerilla war? That would be ugly and likely pointless from a Ukrainian point of view. What would they be fighting for? Possible NATO membership? Really?

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @candid_observer

    The Ukrainian military has a very simple and effective strategy for opposing the Russian advance: retreat to cities, and, in effect, use the civilian population as a human shield. In today's world, this works very well because no advanced nation wants to be held responsible for high civilian deaths.

    I wonder if the Ukrainian military has already been reduced to this tactic. I see no evidence that they've ever been able to prevail in open countryside, where it is military vs military.

    Replies: @Jack D

  • Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter, I finally feel emboldened to say what I really think about the big issues: Murder has gone up since The Establishment declared the "racial reckoning" after George Floyd's death. And that's bad. I admit it: I’m anti-murder. There, I said it.
  • @International Jew
    Musk just blew $50 billion. What's going to happen is, another company will hire away Twitter's engineers. They'll rewrite the code from scratch in no time. All the liberals will go to New Twitter, and so will the Ann Coulters and Steve Sailers who poke liberals for sport. Old Twitter will languish; starved of engineering talent and bereft of users, it'll become what Bitchute is today — a sucky user interface and very little interesting content (that I can find anyway — see above regarding sucky user interface).

    Replies: @J.Ross, @clifford brown, @Polistra, @Mike Tre, @Bardon Kaldian, @tyrone, @Chrisnonymous, @candid_observer, @Alec Leamas (working from home), @AnotherDad, @Matthew Kelly, @duncsbaby

    I think you underestimate the power of network effects.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @candid_observer

    Tell it to Myspace.

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @candid_observer


    I think you underestimate the power of network effects.
     
    That's it. Social media is nothing but network effect -- the platform either has a critical mass or it doesn't. The users supply the content.

    The technicalities are child's play. Twitter is nothing but a glorified email.
  • It is widely assumed that while evolution explains why modern humans have much bigger brains than ancient ancestors, so there is no need for old-fashioned religion, evolution suddenly stopped happening the day before anatomically modern humans went Out-of-Africa, so the new-fashioned religion of racial equity can't be questioned scientifically. But as Gregory Cochran and Henry...
  • @candid_observer
    Actually, almost all the selection for cognitive ability works on standing variation, not new mutations. The effects of common SNPs are exceedingly small. New mutations, if they impact cognitive ability, and are of sizable effect, are almost certainly deleterious, and are, as quick as possible, rooted out.

    Agriculture very likely does bring about selection for cognitive ability. But it does so because it directly favors reproductive success, not because it has better variants to work with.

    Replies: @candid_observer

    Human population was about 1-15 million at the advent of agriculture. It’s now about 8 billion.

    That’s a lot of reproductive success to work with. One would think that those who were better at agriculture and agricultural societies might be strongly favored by selection.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @candid_observer


    One would think that those who were better at agriculture and agricultural societies might be strongly favored by selection.
     
    Meow!


    https://youtu.be/E2383ElpU4U&t=0m10s
  • Actually, almost all the selection for cognitive ability works on standing variation, not new mutations. The effects of common SNPs are exceedingly small. New mutations, if they impact cognitive ability, and are of sizable effect, are almost certainly deleterious, and are, as quick as possible, rooted out.

    Agriculture very likely does bring about selection for cognitive ability. But it does so because it directly favors reproductive success, not because it has better variants to work with.

    • Thanks: Thea
    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @candid_observer

    Human population was about 1-15 million at the advent of agriculture. It's now about 8 billion.

    That's a lot of reproductive success to work with. One would think that those who were better at agriculture and agricultural societies might be strongly favored by selection.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  • Now, you know and I know that the guy who shot up the New York subway this morning in Brooklyn (so far no dead, thankfully -- Sailer's Law of Mass Shootings apparently works even in this terrorist-style attack) was another Angry Black Man. But do New York Times readers, many of whom live in New...
  • The absurd use of “dark skinned” shows how the Times own stylistic policy bites back at it.

    The point of “Black” is to bring attention to the race of blacks, and to serve as an honorific.

    But what happens if the black newsmaker does something horrible? “Black” then becomes a great embarrassment, doing the opposite from what it was intended to do, and looking ridiculous in the process.

    Did it ever occur to these Times people that blacks might, in fact, feature in a number of horrible stories — in fact, in well more than their share? How did they ever think they would handle such cases?

    • Thanks: MEH 0910
    • Replies: @David In TN
    @candid_observer

    "How did they ever think they would handle such cases?"

    Ignore them if possible. If not, play down the race of the perp, ring in excuses, rationalization, etc. If applicable, call if anti-Asian violence.

    Finally, send it down the memory hole.

    , @Jack D
    @candid_observer


    The absurd use of “dark skinned” shows how the Times own stylistic policy bites back at it.
     
    Based upon the changes in the story during the day, there was an edit war inside the news room. In the old days you would never see these because only one version appeared in print but nowadays the edit wars occur on the web in real time.

    The news room (like the Democrat Party) is now divided between the old guard who are Pelosi/Biden liberals (though not as old) and the new woke AOC/Nikole Hannah-Jones generation who are radical "anti-racists" who oversaw the promotion of blacks to Blacks, thus sowing the seeds of the current conundrum - "Blacks" are by definition a good thing, so there can be no bad Blacks.

    So version 1.o of the story called the shooter "Black" in accordance with the description released by the police and quoted by most other news sources.

    Version 2.0 - the Woke brigade retaliates and he becomes "a man in a green vest" .

    In version 3.0, a compromise is reached and the Woke and the merely liberal agree on "dark skinned". There can be no bad Blacks but dark skinned men can do bad things.

    I think that "dark skinned man" is rather awkward and suggest that from now on we just called them "darkies". I think that's a cute, up to date name like "furries". Also, like Latinx, darkie is not gendered. Black would remain reserved for people who are Supreme Court Justices, and darkie would be for people who commit crimes. "Yesterday a darkie pushed an elderly Asian woman onto the subway tracks." "A darkie stole the expensive watch of a diner at a sidewalk cafe" Etc. Whaddaya say, Gen Z folks, doesn't that sound good to you?

    Replies: @hhsiii, @Prester John

  • Augusta National Golf Club, host of The Masters, has all the money in the world and tries to live up to its blessings by doing things well. For example, Masters.Com website is outstanding. It allows you to watch every stroke of any golfer's round in order without all the walking, standing around, squatting, tossing grass...
  • Shouldn’t they have something like speed golf, like speed chess?

    • Agree: Pat Kittle
    • Replies: @Ralph L
    @candid_observer

    That's the way GHWB played. He bragged about his time, not his number of strokes.

    , @Bob
    @candid_observer

    There's a neat variant where people run between holes and then add up the number of strokes with the number of minutes it takes to complete the round. Some just carry a 7 iron and use it alone. Fascinating trade offs in the strategy.

    , @Ganderson
    @candid_observer

    They do. The Hamilton college ( or is it Colgate, I get ‘‘em mixed up) men’s and women’s golf coaches, who are husband and wife, are speed golf champs.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

  • I don't know what happened in Bucha, Ukraine, where numerous dead men in civilian clothes, some with their hands bound, were found lying by the side of the road as the Ukrainians recently recaptured the place. But it's worth looking at an account of the Russian occupation of Trostyanets, which Ukrainian troops retook back on...
  • I really think we have to investigate a good deal more carefully before we can conclude that Russian forces committed all, or most, of these atrocities.

    Both sides have pushed a lot of propaganda already.

    And generally, the Azov element, where ever it is involved, is brutal, barbaric, and deceptive beyond belief.

    Hate hoaxes aren’t just for BLM.

    • Replies: @Tex
    @candid_observer


    Hate hoaxes aren’t just for BLM.
     
    Truth is the first casualty of war.
  • From the New York Times news section: According to R
  • Standardized testing puts supporters of Affirmative Action between a rock and a hard place.

    On the one hand, using a standardized test puts on record the gross differences between white/Asian males and their favored groups. On the other hand, if they are to select the members of those groups least likely to fail, standardized tests are the best measure. Indeed, those tests are likely well more critical in making the correct decisions for their favored groups than for white/Asian males.

    MIT probably saw too many minorities/women fail out (especially minorities), undermining their desire to do aggressive Affirmative Action. So they bit the bullet and went back to standardized testing.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @candid_observer

    Makes sense it was invented in China!

  • Casualty figures out of the Ukraine war are much in dispute, but nobody doubts that the other side's losses are high. It's almost as if Europeans are pretty good at war. I realize that Twitter experts have many complicated theories about why Russians must be better at war than Ukrainians (who are also Russians, except...
  • The civilian casualties in this war have been (apparently) quite low — less than 1,000, I have read.

    This must be a deliberate choice made by Putin — if he had in mind to win the war by killing civilians, I don’t see how the decisions to launch various kinds of artillery attacks, or bombing sorties, or missile could be resisted by his military commanders.

    If anything, it would seem that part of what is holding Russia back from quick dominance (given its numbers) is a policy of avoiding civilian deaths, and minimizing damage to civilian infrastructure.

    Putin may be a thug and a bully, but he clearly imposes limits on his tendencies.

    FIghting wars in the 21st century by a largely civilized country is as much constrained by what is acceptable methods as it is by military prowess.

    • Agree: ic1000
    • Replies: @Redman
    @candid_observer

    The meme of Putin being a “thug and a bully” never is accompanied by much in the way of evidence. It’s essentially a slogan manufactured by the US and UK.

    Much of the US anti-Russian hostility was sparked by one Bill Browder, an epic thief responsible for the absurd Manitsky Act sanctions several years back. To this day Browder continues to call Manitsky his “lawyer,” when he was in fact an accountant who helped Browder set up his Madoff-like heist of Russian assets. With the considerable help of the insane neocon class within DC, Browder was able to change the trajectory of US policy and continues to be listened to and interviewed by all the usual suspects in the MSM as an “expert” on Russia. That’s like calling Bernie Madoff an expert on the SEC.

    , @AP
    @candid_observer


    The civilian casualties in this war have been (apparently) quite low — less than 1,000, I have read.
     
    According to the UN it was over 1,000 confirmed deaths on March 23 but they say the actual number is much higher:

    https://thehill.com/policy/international/599538-un-says-over-1000-civilians-killed-in-ukraine

    It's probably 2,000-3,000.

    Thee numbers match the low estimates for the number of civilians killed during the invasion of Iraq (the actual invasion, not the occupation and insurgency that followed). Russia is not being kinder and gentler than the Americans in Iraq but it is being gentler than when it invaded Chechnya (up to 25,000 killed).
  • Beyond my aversion to making predictions that can be shortly falsified, I'm not crazy about going on record interpreting fast-changing current events as reported by novel and biased sources. That said, the various Russian offensives don't appear to be doing as well as the Russians would have hoped. On the other hand, as Sam Spade...
  • @Jack D
    @candid_observer


    We would never tolerate a country bordering us — or even in the same hemisphere — which was both hostile and heavily armed.
     
    This is false. Cuba was once a full fledged Soviet satellite. We made a deal with the Soviets for them not to station nukes in Cuba (in exchange for which we removed our nukes from Turkey) but short of that, the Soviets had massive military installations in Cuba.

    Defense is just the pretext that Putin uses (along with imaginary "genocide" of Russians in Ukraine). Ukraine and NATO have no desire to invade Russia. Ukraine had no capability to invade. The real reason is that he cannot tolerate that Ukraine got rid of his corrupt puppet and was beginning to form a Western oriented liberal democracy. If this is possible in Ukraine, then it is possible in Russia too and that is literally a mortal threat to him personally. He cannot allow such an example to exist.

    Doesn't Putin ALREADY have hostile powers on his border - e.g. Estonia, Latvia? Look at the map. It's less than 400 miles from the Latvian border to Moscow. According to this logic, Putin shouldn't have to tolerate them either (and in fact if they were not part of NATO, he probably would be pulling the same shtick in those countries). Latvia in particular has a large Russian minority planted there as colonists by the Soviets. And again is making him look bad by being democratic. He would love to get rid of them too. Is that OK also?

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Mr. Anon, @Paperback Writer, @Mike Tre

    We managed to resolve the Cuban Missile crisis by imposing a military blockade, intercepting Russian ships which carried missiles to Cuba. We came as close as we ever have to full scale nuclear war in this crisis — far, far closer than Russia has pushed its current war. Yes, we didn’t need to invade Cuba under those circumstances — but no one could reasonably assert that we were not being militarily aggressive, given the real threat of nuclear war. We didn’t need to launch a full scale invasion of Cuba because we managed to get what we sought by means of these threats.

    There is no reason to believe that Russia would achieve its self interested goals for security short of an invasion. Would anyone be reassured if, instead, it threatened, in effect, to bring the world to the brink of nuclear war if it didn’t achieve its goals? I don’t think so. An invasion is the far more tolerable means of doing so.

    As for Estonia and Latvia, I would expect that they simply present far less of a threat to Russia than does Ukraine.

    • Replies: @dearieme
    @candid_observer

    we didn’t need to invade Cuba under those circumstances

    Well, your invasion of Cuba had already proved a fiasco.

    , @SteveRogers42
    @candid_observer

    The USSR got what IT wanted out of the Cuban Missile Crisis -- we withdrew our Jupiter IRBMs from Turkey. Quid pro quo.

  • This war, as is true in any war, tests our ability to hold many seemingly contradictory thoughts and attitudes at the same time.

    On the one hand, what Putin declares himself to be seeking, namely neutrality in Ukraine and disarmament, seems reasonable. We would never tolerate a country bordering us — or even in the same hemisphere — which was both hostile and heavily armed.

    On the other hand, the bar for actual use of military force is, especially in these times, very high. It’s hard to accept that Putin has achieved that sort of justification.

    But would we not have employed military force if a hostile and heavily armed nation were neighboring us?

    I know it’s the time for 5 minute hate sessions over Putin, and he is indeed generally a thug. But, from his point of view, why isn’t he behaving, if not rationally or justly, then at least as expected, given the circumstances and the self interest of Russia?

    • Agree: Kylie, YetAnotherAnon
    • Thanks: JimDandy
    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @candid_observer

    Surely you're not insinuating that a deranged and delusional Neocon death cult has been relentlessly working for decades in countless insidious ways toward the absurd goal of "regime change" in Putin's Russia? Oh no, wait, that's me.

    , @Justvisiting
    @candid_observer


    But would we not have employed military force if a hostile and heavily armed nation were neighboring us?
     
    This is an excellent question--and history tells us the answer is "yes".

    The year is 1959. Fidel Castro takes power in Cuba and forms an alliance with the Soviet Union.

    The US attempts to assassinate Castro, attempts to foment internal revolution, and then trains and arms Cuban exiles to invade the island ("The Bay of Pigs").
    , @Jack D
    @candid_observer


    We would never tolerate a country bordering us — or even in the same hemisphere — which was both hostile and heavily armed.
     
    This is false. Cuba was once a full fledged Soviet satellite. We made a deal with the Soviets for them not to station nukes in Cuba (in exchange for which we removed our nukes from Turkey) but short of that, the Soviets had massive military installations in Cuba.

    Defense is just the pretext that Putin uses (along with imaginary "genocide" of Russians in Ukraine). Ukraine and NATO have no desire to invade Russia. Ukraine had no capability to invade. The real reason is that he cannot tolerate that Ukraine got rid of his corrupt puppet and was beginning to form a Western oriented liberal democracy. If this is possible in Ukraine, then it is possible in Russia too and that is literally a mortal threat to him personally. He cannot allow such an example to exist.

    Doesn't Putin ALREADY have hostile powers on his border - e.g. Estonia, Latvia? Look at the map. It's less than 400 miles from the Latvian border to Moscow. According to this logic, Putin shouldn't have to tolerate them either (and in fact if they were not part of NATO, he probably would be pulling the same shtick in those countries). Latvia in particular has a large Russian minority planted there as colonists by the Soviets. And again is making him look bad by being democratic. He would love to get rid of them too. Is that OK also?

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Mr. Anon, @Paperback Writer, @Mike Tre

  • This is the point where you get to make your predictions so you can link to them later when you are proven right. As I may have mentioned, I don't like to make predictions about fast-moving events because I don't like being wrong. But many feel the opposite.
  • The thing I find strange and distressing about this situation is that I have no idea which source of news I can trust to give a reasonably objective account of what’s going on.

    I can’t trust the NY Times, God knows, or any of the mainstream press. Fox News is also likely to be biased and selective.

    Forget about prediction–I’d like to know what’s already happened. So who can I go for basic, unselected, and comprehensive facts?

    Seriously, is this a massive Russian invasion or something else? How many troops have entered, and where?

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @candid_observer

    There is no news that isn't propaganda. This is war. Real humans getting snuffed. If you do not want to pollute your mind with garbage tune into a different channel for at least a couple weeks.

    Investigative journalist Charles Johnson, whose biggest scoop was uncovering the Rolling Stone UVa gang rape hoax and got his Joe Rogan appearance erased by spotify (you can still see it on archive .org) published an hilarious story about Eric Weinstein, who he accuses of being a Mossad agent.

    https://charlesjohnson.substack.com/p/fraud-or-spy-who-does-eric-weinstein?r=16kjt&utm_source=url

    Follow all that around and it probably will keep you occupied for an hour any way.

    , @aNewBanner
    @candid_observer

    At this point, I would just like my government to lie to me competently.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  • From FiveThirtyEight: FEB. 22, 2021, AT 10:01 AM Why Athletes’ Birthdays Affect Who Goes Pro — And Who Becomes A Star By Tim Wigmore If you want to be a professional athlete in most sports, it helps to be born at the right time of year. In basketball, baseball and ice hockey, players born in...
  • I’ve always wondered why we don’t seem to see this sort of effect for cognitive accomplishments.

    You’d expect that, say, being almost 7 vs almost 6 would have a very big effect on performance in first grade, and that teachers would reward the better students with more praise, higher level instruction, segregation into more advanced reading groups, etc.. But these advantages don’t seem to propagate through the education of students, so far as I am aware.

    Why not?

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @candid_observer

    I'm sure there is a lot of research on this topic.

    After all there are millions of school teachers and a fair percentage have Ph.ds and Masters.

    You (and I) have not even tried to investigate what research there is on that.

    "Early childhood education" has long been a hot topic. Probably thousands of published papers.

    There may be an effect as to relative age, but your assumptions are also suspect. Brighter students don't necessarily get more praise or attention, or get segregated into advanced classes. That seems like a good idea but has been derided for decades as "unequal" etc.

    Slow learners get far more specialized attention.

    My very large HS had "advanced" classes more or less (groupings of the better students) but that was long ago in a 2,000 student school.

    There seems to be no institutional glory for graduating very smart students. Unlike the treatment of successful jocks who have special coaching and are carefully cosseted to keep playing.

    Since I was a nerd and not a jock, this always bugged me. Jockdom conveys very little lifetime advantage for most, and many negatives like injuries and inflated egos. Distraction from actual learning.

    Learning, on the other hand, has lifetime payoff.

    Of course without the military-patriotic symbolism of secondary school sports teams, many of these would look very different. European and other nations often segregate students into "tracks" with different schools and have only intramural sports competition in them. Universities there don't have sports teams.

    In my day anyway, coaches spent zero time or effort with regular students, other than to keep them busy during the assigned time period. Their contempt for non jocks was evident.

    , @Steve Sailer
    @candid_observer

    Some people "redshirt" their kids for academic reasons. I wrote an article about it 20 years ago. It probably helps your kid's chance of getting tracked into an honors program, or staying out of the low-end track.

  • Gavan Tredoux, who is writing a new biography of the Victorian polymath, has a long thread on Galton's remarkably widespread accomplishments: From my 2014 essay "The Rise and Fall of Statistics:" You might think that humanity’s long failure until very recently to develop sophisticated statistics was because nobody had much data to play around with....
  • @candid_observer
    Galton's breakthrough on correlation was fundamentally driven by a major conceptual leap that had little to do directly with mathematical techniques or sophistication. In fact, formulas which captured certain aspects of correlation, based on multivariate normal distributions, had been developed before Galton, but were never applied as did Galton.

    From Stephen Stigler, "Darwin, Galton and the Statistical Enlightenment":


    It is true that if you dig deeply in earlier literature you can find instances of multivariate normal densities: Robert Adrain in 1808, Laplace about 1812, French work on artillery fire in the 1820s, the crystallographer Auguste Bravais in 1846 and Erastus De Forest in the 1870s, among these. But all of these are as simple generalizations of univariate frequency functions and none examined or exploited the conditional distributions - the multivariate structure - as Galton did. Indeed, there seems to be no one before Galton who even asked what the conditional distributions were in this setting, and much less found them and commented on the deep statistical messages that they implied.
     
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/40666271

    Major conceptual advances in applications of mathematics can take a great amount of time to come about, and, again, have little to do with mathematical sophistication per se. The history of statistics is a testament to this fact, in which such things as a clear understanding of conditional probabilities and their importance in modeling the world dragged on over centuries.

    Replies: @candid_observer

    In general I would say that people give too little credit to the importance and difficulty of inventing useful models of the world, and the distinctive talents which doing so requires, and too much credit to strictly mathematical techniques and talents, which tend to be rather cheap and abundant.

    The world is in the end a bunch of word problems.

  • Galton’s breakthrough on correlation was fundamentally driven by a major conceptual leap that had little to do directly with mathematical techniques or sophistication. In fact, formulas which captured certain aspects of correlation, based on multivariate normal distributions, had been developed before Galton, but were never applied as did Galton.

    From Stephen Stigler, “Darwin, Galton and the Statistical Enlightenment”:

    It is true that if you dig deeply in earlier literature you can find instances of multivariate normal densities: Robert Adrain in 1808, Laplace about 1812, French work on artillery fire in the 1820s, the crystallographer Auguste Bravais in 1846 and Erastus De Forest in the 1870s, among these. But all of these are as simple generalizations of univariate frequency functions and none examined or exploited the conditional distributions – the multivariate structure – as Galton did. Indeed, there seems to be no one before Galton who even asked what the conditional distributions were in this setting, and much less found them and commented on the deep statistical messages that they implied.

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/40666271

    Major conceptual advances in applications of mathematics can take a great amount of time to come about, and, again, have little to do with mathematical sophistication per se. The history of statistics is a testament to this fact, in which such things as a clear understanding of conditional probabilities and their importance in modeling the world dragged on over centuries.

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @candid_observer

    In general I would say that people give too little credit to the importance and difficulty of inventing useful models of the world, and the distinctive talents which doing so requires, and too much credit to strictly mathematical techniques and talents, which tend to be rather cheap and abundant.

    The world is in the end a bunch of word problems.

  • From the prominent alterations in the quote, it’s obvious that the ACLU chose it not to communicate RBG’s message about abortion, but to drive home that “men” can be pregnant.

    RBG has been served notice that she’s now on the wrong side of history.

    • Replies: @Mr. Peabody
    @candid_observer

    RBG = TERF
    To the wall!!!

  • From Twitter: These Texans assaulting a NYC restaurant hostess over a vaccine requirement -- Tyonnie Keshay Rankin, Kaeita Nkeenge Rankin and Sally Rechelle Lewis -- sound like real Trump-voting redneck straight white males. The original NYT version of the story begins: Tourists Attack N.Y.C. Restaurant Hostess Over Vaccine Proof, Police Say Enforcement of a city...
  • What I find amusing about this incident is how fast the media got on top of it, to demonstrate the moral that Texans are awful, only to have it turn on a dime and demonstrate that Blacks are awful.

    And this is a pattern, of course. If you insist on believing things that aren’t so, Reality is always Lucy with the football, and you’re flying through the air like Charlie Brown.

    • Agree: Forbes, Ben tillman
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @candid_observer

    Wasn't as good as the Disneyland fight, though. That was a 10 out of 10.

  • From my new column in Taki's Magazine: Reading the Tea Leaves Steve Sailer September 15, 2021 Why is it so hard to predict the future? For example, why didn’t the Biden Administration guess that few soldiers of the now-defunct Afghan National Army would feel like risking becoming the last Afghan to die for the American-backed...
  • @NJ Transit Commuter
    One of the most important things I’ve learned from decades in business is that predicting the future is a fool’s errand. Of course you need to make plans based on your best guess of what the future will be. But what is waaaaay more important is what your backup plans are when you are inevitably wrong in your predictions.

    The lack of contingency planning is the real problem, not poor prognostic skills.

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Old Prude

    Right.

    The deep problem is not the incorrect prognostication itself — it’s the dead certainty with which it is held, despite so many failures in the past in prognostication.

    If an expert hasn’t learned that he can be wrong, what has he learned?

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  • I'm not the right person to cast aspersions on anybody else's sense of rhythm, but did you ever get the feeling that Afghans don't always have good rhythm?
  • The thing that gets me is that every single Afghan seems to be wrong in a different way.

    What are the odds?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @candid_observer


    The thing that gets me is that every single Afghan seems to be wrong in a different way.

    What are the odds?
     
    Michael Levin once asserted that feminism was unique among philosophies in that it was wrong about everything. Leave it to the ladies!
    , @El Dato
    @candid_observer

    After detailed computer-assisted analysis of that video the conclusion must be made that Afghans are the Real Libertarians. They are mocking the Machine Humans come from beyond the mountains to teach them the benefits of state control.

    However, as they don't live next to the Lew Rockwell Institute, they don't know this.

  • My new column in Taki's Magazine is one of my more intellectually ambitious ones: The Measure of Man Steve Sailer August 11, 2021 Why did Europeans come to dominate the world from roughly 1492 onward? We live in an age increasingly resentful of the world-historical achievements of white men over the last six or eight...
  • Great column, Steve, and I admire the intellectual ambition.

    Trying to understand the Great Divergence is a grand exercise in pattern finding.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Divergence

    There are a lot of angles on this. Upthread, someone mentioned Heinrich’s recent book on the WEIRD people of Europe. Another relevant recent book is The Knowledge Machine, which attempts to locate the peculiar mindset behind modern science. In my reading so far of The Verge, it takes, I gather, a multifactorial approach.

    It’s a big puzzle to solve. A first rank pattern finder unencumbered by strictly environmental approaches is likely to make real progress.

  • From the Cornell University course catalog: From City Journal:
  • @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    I took a music class at Rice U. along with about a quarter of the football team. Due to its easy grading, it was known among the jocks as “Clapping for Credit.”
     
    Benoit Mandelbrot's uncle taught at Rice in the 1920s. Is that common knowledge there? He brought Benoit's family to America.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szolem_Mandelbrojt

    An artist now in his 90s must be from this family, considering his mathematical bent:

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/254925561_Multiple-Time_Installation


    TIL a couple things about Southern California. One is an obscure film school, Dodge College at Chapman University. Is any Hollywood notable from there? One doesn't expect industry leaders to come out of the film schools at Montana State or Southern Illinois, but Dodge is in Orange County. Is that also flyover country?

    And there are about three dozen "Case Study" houses in and around LA:

    The Case Study houses that made Los Angeles a modernist mecca

    Are these well-known locally?

    In the Twin Cities, there are two neighborhoods, University Grove just outside St Paul in Philando's Falcon Heights, and the Luella Anderson Addition in South Minneapolis, full of modernest homes on streets named for University presidents. (Many of the houses were designed by Winston and Elizabeth Close, the former no doubt the namesake of the recently departed Winston Smith, whose parents must have been quite the architecture buffs.)

    Is this sort of experimental neighborhood common around major architecture schools?

    Replies: @candid_observer

    There are several in my neck of the woods, around Lexington MA, which were developed by the architecture school at Harvard.

    Five Fields is a well known example:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Fields

    They all have a Back to the Future feel about them. Personally, I like their combined suggestion of optimistic progress and nostalgia. When I was a kid, these sort of homes seemed supercool, and now they still seem pretty cool.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @candid_observer

    As our society has become socially less conservative (almost libertine), styles in domestic architecture have become MORE conservative - it is rare nowadays to see any new house built in a "modern" style. Most new home construction is vaguely "colonial" or "historical" with symmetrical pitched gable roofs, etc.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @guest

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @candid_observer


    When I was a kid, these sort of homes seemed supercool, and now they still seem pretty cool.
     
    Icy might be closer to the truth. Especially in Robert Frost and Leroy Anderson's New England.

    Would you say Philip Johnson was more than a bit exhibitionist? His own nightmare on Elm Street:


    https://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2007/0707/360_amodern_0709.jpg

    Replies: @Muggles, @J.Ross

  • From me last week: From the New York Times today: By the way, that simple, dignified coffin in the NYT illustration is not my recollection of what George Floyd's casket looked like:
  • Steve, your ability to predict cultural/political developments is remarkable.

    It’s fairly easy to imagine outcomes of movements which would be “logical” steps in the current ideological direction, but most of those would be too extreme to get traction. The delicate thing is to have a good sense of what’s viable what’s not.

    You seem to have an excellent balance between appreciating the craziness of the left and understanding its limits.

  • I've been predicting for some time that in honor of George Floyd, America's wealthy institutions will boost their diversity numbers by methodically ravishing the rest of the world of its smartest upper class / descendants of slave-sellers blacks. Thus, from CNN: Nigerian teen gets 19 scholarship offers worth more than $5 million from the US...
  • For all the talk of how the best students from Africa might overpower African-Americans, it would be nice to see a single such former student who actually contributed in a major way to Western civilization.

    Where are the scientists, the thinkers, the writers, the entrepreneurs?

    • Agree: AceDeuce, AnotherDad
    • Replies: @Carbon blob
    @candid_observer

    Bennet Omalu (guy who discovered CTE in dead NFL players' brains) is the biggest that comes to mind right now.

  • What were her SAT or ACT scores, one wonders?

    The dog isn’t barking.

  • From my new column in Taki's Magazine: In contrast, in northwestern Africa south of Portugal, both the geography and the culture of the Sahara cut off Europeans from sub-Saharans until the 15th-century Portuguese mariners made their great leap arou
  • OT, well known environmentalist Eric Turkheimer proudly displays his totalitarian colors:

    https://twitter.com/ent3c/status/1387070086469627909?s=20

    So a journal whose very name is Journal of Controversial Ideas must publish only articles which someone on the editorial board will publicly agree with.

    The man is an out-of-control control freak. He will tell you what you are allowed to think about.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @candid_observer

    Environmentalism, anti-racism, public health: the trinity super-spreaders of totalitarianism.

    , @J.Ross
    @candid_observer

    It's interesting also the need to shame and the ignorant over-reliance on consensus. Gravity is there whether you believe it or not. A discovery censored will eventually be rediscovered.

    , @I, Libertine
    @candid_observer

    He's the guy who recently cited the fact "that people dance the Merengue more in the Dominican Republic than they do in Korea" as evidence against significant heritability of IQ. True story.

    https://twitter.com/ent3c/status/1385590791314214916?s=20

    He can't be stupid enough to be fooling himself. Who does he think he's fooling?

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @candid_observer

    Above all else, the guy's got a lot of damn gall to appropriate, well, STEAL, that "Steal Your Face" logo of The Dead. Were I a Dead Head version of lawyer Jack D., I'd sue the pants, OK, Birkenstocks, off this fucker as a class action suit on behalf of Jerry's kids.

    , @El Dato
    @candid_observer

    We are all product of our times.

    Here we have shit product of shit times.

    , @James Forrestal
    @candid_observer


    The man is an out-of-control control freak. He will tell you what you are allowed to think about.
     
    Yeah that sort of overwhelming drive to control the thoughts of the goyim -- to "Shut it down!" -- is a characteristic feature of toxic semitism:

    "If I may address my fellow Jews for a moment, consider this."

    https://www.cato-unbound.org/2007/11/21/eric-turkheimer/race-iq

    Turkheimer believes that all narratives, facts, and hypotheses that are not officially-certified beforehand as "Good for the jews" should be ruthlessly suppressed. See also:

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2017/06/16/eric-turkheimer-jewish-ethnic-interests-masquerading-as-ethical-concerns/

  • iSteve is a highbrow site, but lately we've mostly been discussing stabby teens, so ... from the Journal of Controversial Ideas: Have Japanese pseudonyms, such as Satoshi Nakamoto, become the nom de plume of right wing dissidents? Received: 19 May 2020 / Revised: 17 Aug 2020 / Accepted: 2020-09-14 / Published: 2021-04-25 ABSTRACT “Cognitive creationism”...
  • It’s a very good thing to see such a journal appear in philosophy, which has been fully under the thumb of identity politics.

    The paradox, of course, is that philosophy historically, and by its very nature, questions basic assumptions. Any discipline that suggests that we might all be brains in a vat ought to have room to entertain the idea that some groups are, on average, genetically different from others on a social trait.

    I can’t think of another academic journal that is so explicitly pitched toward controversial ideas. Quillette seems so designed for the more general intelligent public. Philosophers ought to be well trained to do some of the more intellectual and foundational work.

    It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out. I wonder what kind of contributors it will attract. One hopes that pseudonymity will draw out a number of philosophers who have, to date, mostly bitten their tongues.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @candid_observer

    Lol Quillette.

    (((Claire Lehmann))) is a shameless thot who got big triggered after that old, pro-white Australian senator punched the kid who assaulted him with an egg.

    Quillette is NYT Lite

  • From my new book review in Taki's Magazine: Read the whole thing there.
  • @res
    @candid_observer

    If anyone is interested in admixture studies along these lines, this is a good place to start.
    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/tag/admixture/

    Replies: @candid_observer

    The admixture studies cited are of course interesting, but the overall number is impressively small.

    If a scientist had an interest in the evolution of human beings, admixture studies would be the natural first method to which he (or she!) would turn. Admixture studies of ancient peoples tell us a lot about how those peoples migrated, merged, split, or supplanted. But the other side of evolution is the selection of traits, and we can’t easily recover that information from long gone people. We can rather directly assess average differences in traits by looking at existing groups, measuring their phenotypes, and comparing via admixture.

    Admixture studies are by far the most direct way to do this. Other methods, such as comparing SNPs underlying traits, are limited by difficulties in assessing SNPs across groups. SNPs across groups often don’t capture the same effects. The linkage disequilibrium for a given SNP may be quite different in different groups. And a good deal of heritability is found in rare variants, typically rare variants of negative effect. These variants are not likely to be the same across groups — they are likely, instead, to be “private” to a group.

    Admixture studies can estimate the full differential effect of all variants, rare or common, and across LD structures, on a trait. If you want to understand how human groups have evolved, which traits have evolved, admixture studies are the go-to method. The results can bracket what may be found by techniques examining variants.

    That admixture studies aren’t already standard and extensive demonstrates how much science has already been forestalled by ideological concerns.

  • @candid_observer

    “My strength is not that I’m smarter, it’s that I’m more willing to offend the crowd.”
     
    Ambitious scientists and intellectuals should take Watson's statement as a guiding principle, if it is lasting achievement they seek.

    How much important and original science and thought lies undiscovered today because researchers refuse to entertain obvious but currently toxic hypotheses?

    If one is willing to take as a premise that groups differ on average in significant ways, what new insights in genetics, political theory, moral theory, sociology, psychology, economics, and history, become possible -- perhaps even easy?

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Anonymous

    One area in genetics that seems to me to be very much underexplored because of the toxicity of belief in group differences is admixture studies.

    The genetic composition of the blacks in the US creates an almost perfect setting in which to explore the differential effects of genetics on long separated human groups. Blacks in the US vary in the amount of European ancestry they carry — and the amount they do is basically cryptic to them. This should allow convincing studies as to the effects of genes vs. the environment on many important human traits — not just such things as IQ, but also the panoply of other traits, such as disease susceptibility, development, etc. which are of natural scientific and practical import. Likely, admixture studies are by far the most direct and best way to approach these issues. And of course admixture studies are a staple technique in an area of genetics which is free (so far) of toxicity: studies of ancient genetics and ancient peoples.

    How much glory — after much initial scorn — awaits those who pursue such approaches?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @candid_observer


    Blacks in the US vary in the amount of European ancestry they carry — and the amount they do is basically cryptic to them.
     
    Not really. All they need to do is look in the mirror and they can make a pretty good guess. Of course knowing and acting upon your knowledge (in the way that you might expect in a sane world) are two different things. America has never been sane about race. In the past, one drop of African blood was enough to send you to the colored section or even make you a slave (and accordingly, light skinned blacks had a big incentive to cross the color line although not that many did because this entailed many difficulties). In current day America, the incentives have flipped and being Black is Beautiful - it opens many doors, so when someone who is 7/8 European looks in the mirror, that 7/8ths part disappears and all he or she sees is a Proud Black Warrior.

    Replies: @Bill, @James Speaks, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Paperback Writer

    , @Bill
    @candid_observer


    The genetic composition of the blacks in the US creates an almost perfect setting in which to explore the differential effects of genetics on long separated human groups.
     
    There is a great old post by Chuck about Colorism: the idea that lighter-skinned blacks receive preferential treatment because of their lighter skin. In general, various outcomes are better for lighter-skinned blacks than for darker-skinned blacks. This could be due to discrimination or to white admixture leading to higher IQ and other more white-like genetics for the lighter-skinned.

    Chuck's idea (based on an older idea of Jensen's) was to look for differences in outcomes by skin tone among siblings. The idea is that siblings, on average, have the same genes since they have the same parents. The lighter-skinned of a pair of siblings, therefore, at least on average, has the same genetic endowment of non-skin-color genes as does the dark-skinned one (there are some details one might worry about at this step of the reasoning). And, like magic, dark-skinned and light-skinned siblings have about equal outcomes.

    https://humanvarieties.org/2013/02/22/colorism-in-america-1/#more-774
    , @Matthew Kelly
    @candid_observer

    Makes me curious as to how effective it would be for our incestuous Big Tech to wed 23andMe's DNA database with Facebook's personal information treasure trove with Google's AI to come up with some guesses as to what genes end up expressing what traits.

    I assume those at the top of the food chain, while talking a great game on all things woke, somewhere in their heart of hearts don't believe it, and so can rationalize their way into taking advantage of all the data they're sitting on--contradictions to their avowed woke morality be damned.

    Replies: @James Speaks

    , @res
    @candid_observer

    If anyone is interested in admixture studies along these lines, this is a good place to start.
    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/tag/admixture/

    Replies: @candid_observer

  • “My strength is not that I’m smarter, it’s that I’m more willing to offend the crowd.”

    Ambitious scientists and intellectuals should take Watson’s statement as a guiding principle, if it is lasting achievement they seek.

    How much important and original science and thought lies undiscovered today because researchers refuse to entertain obvious but currently toxic hypotheses?

    If one is willing to take as a premise that groups differ on average in significant ways, what new insights in genetics, political theory, moral theory, sociology, psychology, economics, and history, become possible — perhaps even easy?

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @candid_observer

    One area in genetics that seems to me to be very much underexplored because of the toxicity of belief in group differences is admixture studies.

    The genetic composition of the blacks in the US creates an almost perfect setting in which to explore the differential effects of genetics on long separated human groups. Blacks in the US vary in the amount of European ancestry they carry -- and the amount they do is basically cryptic to them. This should allow convincing studies as to the effects of genes vs. the environment on many important human traits -- not just such things as IQ, but also the panoply of other traits, such as disease susceptibility, development, etc. which are of natural scientific and practical import. Likely, admixture studies are by far the most direct and best way to approach these issues. And of course admixture studies are a staple technique in an area of genetics which is free (so far) of toxicity: studies of ancient genetics and ancient peoples.

    How much glory -- after much initial scorn -- awaits those who pursue such approaches?

    Replies: @Jack D, @Bill, @Matthew Kelly, @res

    , @Anonymous
    @candid_observer


    If one is willing to take as a premise that groups differ on average in significant ways, what new insights in genetics, political theory, moral theory, sociology, psychology, economics, and history, become possible — perhaps even easy
     
    ... And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall get ye fired.
  • Somebody suggested to me recently that younger generations neither achieve nor aspire to being cool. That may explain some otherwise puzzling artifacts, such as Twitter's What's Happening alerts: But people are not just defending the Biden Administration by pointing to old Republicans making similar slips. People are also complaining about various slights:
  • @candid_observer
    Not sure what it means to say that young people no longer aspire to be cool.

    Being non-binary is cool. Purple hair is cool -- ask the female staffer who accompanied Blinken to the diplomatic meeting with China. She showed the world how cool she was, and Blinken allowed it to show the world how cool he was.

    Replies: @candid_observer, @S. Anonyia, @Lyra

    I think a more accurate statement would be that young people no longer seek to defy authority.

    I live in a very left leaning area, and a common bumper sticker from not so many years ago was “Question Authority”. I never see that sticker anymore.

    I suspect anyone who displayed it would today be liable for cancellation.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @candid_observer

    Because the people who used to "Question Authority" are now the alleged authorities

    Replies: @68W58

    , @Ganderson
    @candid_observer

    I walked my dog through the local BSU campus the other day. I saw literally hundreds of students, every damn one of them had a mask on.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  • Not sure what it means to say that young people no longer aspire to be cool.

    Being non-binary is cool. Purple hair is cool — ask the female staffer who accompanied Blinken to the diplomatic meeting with China. She showed the world how cool she was, and Blinken allowed it to show the world how cool he was.

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @candid_observer

    I think a more accurate statement would be that young people no longer seek to defy authority.

    I live in a very left leaning area, and a common bumper sticker from not so many years ago was "Question Authority". I never see that sticker anymore.

    I suspect anyone who displayed it would today be liable for cancellation.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Ganderson

    , @S. Anonyia
    @candid_observer

    Thanks for bringing up the purple-haired interpreter. Apparently she spoke bad Chinese as well. Was waiting for someone on here to raise the issue...

    What your describing isn't cool, though. It's conformist and extremely earnest about it. Like a theater kid who just can't help themselves.

    Cool is a sense of detached cynicism.

    No one is cool anymore because no one is cynical.

    A decade ago virtually all liberals questioned the circumstances of 9/11, JFK assassination, etc. Nowadays only a few aging Boomers still discuss those questions. Mainstream society will lump you in with QAnon shaman if you talk about any conspiracy other than whatever the media is pushing.

    , @Lyra
    @candid_observer

    Perhaps it would be most accurate to describe it as a desire for popularity. Approval-seeking conformism.

  • From my new book review in Taki's Magazine: Read the whole thing there.
  • @Steve Sailer
    @Polistra

    Maybe Jews tend to be braver about intellectual things?

    Replies: @Nikolai Vladivostok, @Altai, @Agathoklis, @J.Ross, @Thoughts, @Polistra, @RichardTaylor, @candid_observer, @vinteuil, @Not Raul, @Anonymous Jew

    It is my observation that Jews tend to be outspoken.

    • LOL: Lot
    • Replies: @Dissident
    @candid_observer


    It is my observation that Jews tend to be outspoken.
     
    You don't say? Next you'll be telling us that we have a tendency toward being loud, verbally aggressive, presumptuous and officious, and even downright obnoxious...
    ~ ~ ~
    In all seriousness, goyim who reflexively and incessantly whine about, name and blame Jews are no less tendentious, pathetic and tedious than Jews who do the same about goyim. It's always much easier to blame someone, some group or some thing than it is to look within; to see and acknowledge one's own faults and shortcomings. This is universally true, for individual, group, nation alike.
    , @Gary in Gramercy
    @candid_observer

    "Outspoken?" In the words of that famous TV mom, Sheila Broslovski, "What what what???"

    That's a vile anti-Semitic canard, and I insist you retract it forthwith, or I shall be forced (compelled, I tell you!) to contact the ADL, the JDL and the GayDL. (I'm straight -- NTTAWWT -- but some flaming reinforcements couldn't hurt.)

  • The Woke are canceling ever more of the great minds of English history, such as Ronald A. Fisher: Fisher was the Newton of the life sciences, the man who invented the math needed to solve big problems. Richard Dawkins indignantly tweets: In what order will other great minds of England be canceled? Here's my countdown...
  • @glib
    Newton is not too big a loss, since the real brains of the operation were Leibniz, Huygens, and Euler. Keynes isn't either. I will miss the other two though, who are giants.

    Replies: @Dumbo, @astrolabe, @candid_observer, @Frau Katze, @Prof. Woland, @Excal, @h5mind, @nokangaroos

    Seriously?

  • @Almost Missouri
    Charles "literally-invented-racism" Darwin can't be cancelled yet because they think they need him to fend off the hordes of Creationists who will imminently emerge from flyover country.

    This is not parody; they really believe this.

    Replies: @candid_observer

    Here I disagree with you.

    We haven’t heard much about Creationists in a long time, at least not among the cultural powers that be. Creationists are mostly considered a long defeated enemy. It’s as dated an issue as gay marriage, or defense of gays, rather than transgenders. It hasn’t taken much time for the interests of actual gays — such as Andrew Sullivan — to be thrown under the bus. A new cultural battle is to be won.

    I see Darwin as having served his purpose for the left. He is ready to be reviled.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @candid_observer


    He is ready to be reviled.
     
    I guess we'll find out soon enough. I agree that the Creationist Menace is obsolete, I'm just not so sure that the institutional gatekeepers have noticed. I say this because I happen to know one of them who controls a government-funded, nonprofit institution that is supposed to promote the natural sciences to the public. She really believes she is standing athwart the barricades, keeping The Creationists from infecting the minds of our impressionable young people. (Of course she is busy infecting everyone's mind with mandatory "antiracism", but that's different!)

    Also of course, despite her role, she has no science background, training or even much understanding of science as falsifiability or Bayesian inference or anything you or I might recognize. Her Philosophy of Science is of the order of "I F--king Love Science!!!" and her Method of Science is of the order of Science Good, Creationism Bad. For her, an atheist, "Science" is a substitute religion, with its own demonology and hierarchy of saints, which she has committed to memory without being able to explain why it is so.

    If a future Chinese historian ever cares to write of the collapse of the West, one small story is how it is that institutions that are supposed bring future generations into as foundational concepts as science ended up in the control of people inimical to those concepts, however unintentionally.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Unladen Swallow

  • The Hemingway-besotted economic historian has published a paper outlining his coming book: I believe that Richard Herrnstein, the Bell Curve's co-author, famously laid out his theory that assortative mating couldn't have been all that high until the widespread use of standardized testing in the mid 20th Century in his his 1971 article in the pre-woke...
  • @Flip
    @houston 1992

    There's a theory that Princess Diana was the biological daughter of the half Jewish James Goldsmith. Her mother had an affair with him and Diana strongly resembled Goldsmith's son, which would make Prince William 1/8 Jewish.

    Replies: @candid_observer

    Makes you wonder if the royal family has ever done DNA tests on its members. You’d think that an enterprise based exclusively on genealogy would want to know exactly what its true genealogy might be, even if it keeps it secret from the public.

  • From New York: Our [Democratic] support among Afri
  • Equity, coming in fast and hard from the Democrats:

    The so-called Justice in Policing Act, introduced by Rep. Karen Bass, D-Calif., is being touted by the Biden administration as necessary to solve “systemic misconduct — and systemic racism — in police departments.”

    “To make our communities safer, we must begin by rebuilding trust between law enforcement and the people they are entrusted to serve and protect. We cannot rebuild that trust if we do not hold police officers accountable for abuses of power and tackle systemic misconduct — and systemic racism — in police departments,” the White House said in a statement.

    Section 311 of the act identifies that officers who pull over certain identity groups, such as more black men than black women, will be defined as a “prima facie evidence” violation. If men are found to speed at higher rates than women in a given region, for example, a police department would technically be in violation of the act. The Justice in Policing Act also calls for racial quotas for “traffic stops,” “pedestrian stops,” and “interviews.” In essence, departments would be forced to deal with all people equitably, which would fundamentally contradict the notion of equal justice in a free and fair society.

    https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/04/the-sole-republican-to-vote-in-favor-of-the-george-floyd-bill-did-so-accidentally/

    What could go wrong?

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @candid_observer

    They're of the belief that everyone should be harassed by the police--law-abiding and criminal perpetrators alike. Turning policing into just another government jobs program to install favored voting constituencies into do-nothing jobs.

    , @AndrewR
    @candid_observer

    This certainly won't build trust of the cops among white people. But that's a feature not a bug for our rulers. And frankly I don't think blacks will grow to love cops any more.

  • From the New York Times sports section: I reviewed Kahneman's bestseller in 2012. Thinking, Fast and Slow’s basic idea is helpful, if not terribly startling: Acts of human cognition can be pictured as falling along a continuum from intuition (which is fast and fun) to logic (which is slow and tiring). Snap judgments work well...
  • I used to be quite skeptical myself of the importance of the results described in Thinking Fast and Thinking Slow. But I’ve become very much persuaded that they are indeed quite basic and of great consequence.

    The point isn’t whether Kahneman is “tricking” us into coming to the wrong conclusion in cases like Linda the bank teller. It is that we seem to have an extraordinary and powerful attraction to thinking in terms of representativeness rather than of pure logic. In this sense, Kahneman’s results might be understood as demonstrating just how easy it is for people to be tricked in this particular way — how much more inclined we are on average to leap to the intuitive, but wrong, conclusion rather than the logical one. Much of his work involved finding just how far this could be pushed before we finally succumb to logic — just how explicitly the correct logical inference had to be featured before most people would concede that the logical conclusion was the right one. Some of his more extreme examples make this clear.

    And it’s not trivial in cases like decisions in sports. Certainly it was initially very hard for many managers in baseball to think in terms of the actual statistical results rather than prototypes.

    • Thanks: vhrm
    • Replies: @Bill P
    @candid_observer


    The point isn’t whether Kahneman is “tricking” us into coming to the wrong conclusion in cases like Linda the bank teller. It is that we seem to have an extraordinary and powerful attraction to thinking in terms of representativeness rather than of pure logic. In this sense, Kahneman’s results might be understood as demonstrating just how easy it is for people to be tricked in this particular way — how much more inclined we are on average to leap to the intuitive, but wrong, conclusion rather than the logical one.
     
    There's a good reason for that. Reasoning is slow, inefficient and often clumsy. If you're playing a sport and your opponent has to stop to think about something, nine times out of ten you've got him beat. The same applies in many intellectual tasks such as law. The lawyer who knows stuff will usually beat the one who has to figure it out even if their IQ is comparable.

    What Kahneman is writing about is the distinction between reasoning and learned response. Ideally, in a competitive environment reasoning should be one's last resort. Athletes are often told not to "overthink" and to use "muscle memory." Sounds dumb, but it's good advice (even though "muscle memory" is a misleading term). In fact, the main benefit of reasoning is to prevent the reasoner from having to use reason for the same task the next time. It is something one uses in novel situations.

    So what Kahneman is doing to trick people is dressing up novel situations as routine ones. Novel situations occur in day-to-day life, but not in the contexts Kahneman presents. For most people, novel situations are mainly social. Abstract reasoning tasks involving numbers or formal logic rarely present themselves. However, reasoning about other people's behavior and thoughts occupies enormous bandwidth.

    This is why nerds like Kahneman's book: it makes them feel good about themselves by leaving out the majority of reasoning while emphasizing the kind they happen to be relatively good at. I'd go so far as to say that Kahneman is pulling a fast one on the nerds. He's disguising one of their shortcomings as a superior trait to flatter them and get them to buy his book. Pretty clever.

    Say we presented a bunch of quant types with Jane Austen-like social quandaries. Most of them would be confused. If forced to face these in real life, many would feel great distress, and probably show it physiologically. It would make a funny skit.

    Kahneman isn't coming up with anything new at all here. His distinction between "fast" and "slow" thinking is facile and doesn't explain the real difference between the two. Even worse, it muddies the waters.

    Replies: @vhrm, @Reg Cæsar, @Known Fact, @Chrisnonymous, @wren, @El Dato

    , @Forbes
    @candid_observer


    It is that we seem to have an extraordinary and powerful attraction to thinking in terms of representativeness rather than of pure logic.
     
    We're culturally/socially conditioned to stories, not facts. The so-called error in Linda the Teller scenario is that people "fill in the blanks" in the story/query in ways they are used to seeing. As you say...

    how much more inclined we are on average to leap to the intuitive, but wrong, conclusion rather than the logical one.
     
    Homo economicus (rational man) is the great assumption error of classical economics and Kahneman's psychology-infused behavioral economics. I think it's a safe bet to say that some men are capable of reasoned logic, but most are social-emotional animals reacting on instinct, intuition, feelings, and personal preferences of-the-moment--not reasoning. Rationalizations (post-hoc) are what most people think of as reasoned decision-making.
  • An extremely relevant legal question is whether the concept of a "hostile work environment" applies to the protection of whites during this era of increasing anti-white hate among the powerful, such as Richard Carranza, the extraordinarily bigoted New York City public schools chief. For example, from the New York Post: Bronx educator claims she was...
  • I do wish that the SC would be handed a number of cases in which these issues are paramount.

    I can’t see any reason they shouldn’t rule on how these clauses are to be interpreted.

    What are they there for, if not for that?

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    @candid_observer

    #14 is fuzzy. It’s a lawyer’s dream. It needs to be repealed.

    I am so sick and tired of hearing about desperate, politically strategic appeals to lawyer-SCOTUS.

    Those diversity tokens don’t have constitutional authority to tell us what #14 actually means (though that kind of limit never stops the agenda-driven, lawyer-judges; is there another kind?

    Notwithstanding, the lawyer-judges always rule in favor of big government. For instance, SCOTUS might throw out strict, gun control measures within DC, but they’ll never issue a sweeping opinion (edict!) about the intrinsically unconstitutional nature of gun regulations everywhere.

    But why am I telling you this to you people? I agree with Dr. Paul that the surest way to weaken one’s ethos is to point out how the other side’s position is blatantly unconstitutional.

  • From the New York Times news section: Obscure Musicology Journal Sparks Battles Over Race and Free Speech A scholar’s address about racism and music theory was met with a vituperative, personal response by a small journal. It faced calls to cease publishing. By Michael Powell Published Feb. 14, 2021 A periodical devoted to the study...
  • @candid_observer
    @Anon

    While I'm quite the ignoramus on music theory, the description of Schenkerian analysis sounds a lot like Chomsky's theory of generative grammar, with deep structures and surface manifestations.

    But, as with Chomsky, the question seems to be, how much of the deep structure is real, and how much an ornate illusion?

    For an outsider, both seem a bit, well, Talmudic.

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Bardon Kaldian

    Maybe cabalistic is the better word here.

  • @Anon
    When I first came across Schenker it was hard to tell if he was a profound genius or some sort of Kabbalahesque guy who found imaginary patterns everywhere. In Wikipedia, more than his bio page, the Schenkerian Analysis article will give you an idea of what he was doing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schenkerian_analysis

    You can kind of work through some of this stuff if you have a few years of piano lessons of the sort where the teacher also taught you easy music theory like chord progressions and simple improvisation and composition.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @candid_observer

    While I’m quite the ignoramus on music theory, the description of Schenkerian analysis sounds a lot like Chomsky’s theory of generative grammar, with deep structures and surface manifestations.

    But, as with Chomsky, the question seems to be, how much of the deep structure is real, and how much an ornate illusion?

    For an outsider, both seem a bit, well, Talmudic.

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @candid_observer

    Maybe cabalistic is the better word here.

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @candid_observer

    It is a problem with linguistics as such. The greatest linguists (de Saussure, Jakobson, Trubetzkoy, Chomsky, Hjelmslev,...) have doubtless vastly enhanced our knowledge of languages. They offered numerous insights & created theories that enriched our understanding of the language phenomenon.

    Also, much of their work is experimentally corroborated by study of developmental psychology, aphasia, brain scan & other multidisciplinary fields. The greatest linguist of all is, I think, Roman Jakobson, although Chomsky's work has had more practical applications.

    Be as it may, linguistics is a science, more exact than, say, art history or economics.

  • From the New York Times: Postcard From Peru: Why the Morality Plays Inside The Times Won’t Stop By Ben Smith, Feb. 14, 2021 In 2012, when The New York Times was panicked about its financial future, this newspaper went into the travel business. It began selling “Times Journeys,” on which an expert beat reporter would...
  • On McNeil’s Wikipedia page, I find this sentence:

    He left The New York Times in 2021 following public reports of making racist remarks, including use of the word “n****r”, during a 2019 trip to Peru with high school students.

    where the so-called n-word is actually spelled out.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_McNeil_Jr.

    So it’s a cancelable act to quote or mention the word in conversation, but OK to write it out in a setting as public — and as woke — as Wikipedia?

    Show me the man, and I’ll find you the thought-crime.

  • The New York Times has finally published their notorious article doxing Scott Alexander, the pseudonymous psychiatrist who wrote the Slate Star Codex blog (which is now revived as Astral Codex Ten on Substack). The author prudently shut down his blog because his patients, which include numerous crazy people, might lash out violently if informed by...
  • Of course, The Name That Shall Not Be Spoken in the Times continues: Steve Sailer.

    One of the problems I have with Scott Alexander is his refusal to entertain at any length the possibility that there exist between group differences on socially relevant traits.

    I get, of course, how much more “toxic” that topic is than those he does consider.

    But, in the end, if it is truth you seek, how do avoid such a basic, consequential truth? How do you understand a world in which this fact plays such a pivotal role, and, indeed, is figuring larger and larger over time?

    Our current culture is simply built upon the dogmatic belief in the opposite. If you do believe that all differences between groups are socially constructed, on what grounds, other than procedural, can you reject attempts to right disparities in outcome by blunt, even gross corrections? Isn’t something like Critical Race Theory nearly unavoidable if you believe that all groups are the same, except for environment? What, other than some great, systematic, structural oppression, could explain the deep disparities we see?

    The agnostic views of Scott Alexander and company are really helpless to understand these issues, or to correct them. He and they must instead point out the downsides and limitations of, say, Affirmative Action without addressing the full force of the arguments in its favor. I don’t see this to be an effective way of opposing them in the long run, nor does it allow a deep understanding of how the world really works.

    If you wish to understand the world, you need to start from true premises, and follow them to true conclusions. That’s the only way knowledge can be advanced.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @candid_observer


    One of the problems I have with Scott Alexander is his refusal to entertain at any length the possibility that there exist between group differences on socially relevant traits.

    I get, of course, how much more “toxic” that topic is than those he does consider.

    But, in the end, if it is truth you seek, how do avoid such a basic, consequential truth? How do you understand a world in which this fact plays such a pivotal role, and, indeed, is figuring larger and larger over time?
     
    If you deny that possibility, what worthwhile and forbidden “truths” can you contribute to the world today?

    If you deny that possibility, how can you even practice psychiatry and “treat” people with drugs?

    Has Scott Alexander, with his blog, merely been engaging in the usual Jewish gatekeeping and diversion of others’ energy into futile if not counterproductive beliefs and pursuits?
    , @ben tillman
    @candid_observer


    Our current culture is simply built upon the dogmatic belief in the opposite. If you do believe that all differences between groups are socially constructed, on what grounds, other than procedural, can you reject attempts to right disparities in outcome by blunt, even gross corrections?
     
    You're asking the wrong question. On what grounds would one *accept* or *undertake* attempts to right disparities in outcome? One can't just invent moral imperatives.

    And how does the verb "right" fit in? Where does one get the idea that disparities are wrong?

    And how can differences between "groups" be socially constructed, when "socially constructed" implies that all the "groups" are equal parts of the society that is exercising agency?


    Isn’t something like Critical Race Theory nearly unavoidable if you believe that all groups are the same, except for environment? What, other than some great, systematic, structural oppression, could explain the deep disparities we see?
     
    If all groups are the same, oppression is impossible and pointless. In fact, if "all groups are the same", doesn't that mean there is just one group? What could distinguish one group from another or from the whole?

    Replies: @415 reasons, @bomag

    , @vhrm
    @candid_observer


    If you do believe that all differences between groups are socially constructed, on what grounds, other than procedural, can you reject attempts to right disparities in outcome by blunt, even gross corrections? Isn’t something like Critical Race Theory nearly unavoidable if you believe that all groups are the same, except for environment? What, other than some great, systematic, structural oppression, could explain the deep disparities we see?
     
    in my view you're mostly right.
    if you "notice" differences in outcome it's good to try to identify the cause of said differences.

    Let's say there are three variables that might explain bad black outcomes: black nature (mostly genes), black "culture", and anti-black racism (including active discrimination today and historical racism that resulted in disparate starting points for people alive today)

    If you believe "blank slate" (i.e. no HBD) then the first variable is off the table. So it must be black culture or racism.

    Given the amount of intervention that's happened over the past 50 years and the fact that even upper middle class blacks' kids seen to underperform (i.e the black kids who live in practically "white" culture and values) then all you're left with is racism. And when you can't identify actual active kkk type racists it becomes magic systemic racism. which must exist in the way "dark matter" exists: we can't see it, but it has to be there because we see its effects.

    Without hbd "racism" becomes the answer because as Sherlock Holmes says:
    "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. "

    It doesn't however follow that it is the government's place to fight racism among the people and try to equalize outcomes even if disparity IS due to racism. Freedom of association concepts argue that people should be allowed to discriminate.

    But let's see that aside, wherever the government should fight it or not, if I were a blank slatist, I would also assume some unjustified racism was in play causing these bad outcomes and I'd say society should fight against it.

    In fact, until I understood HBD differences between groups about 10 years ago (largely driven by iSteve's articles archives from the 2000s) my views were that it's probably like 1/2 black culture and 1/2 racism.

    Replies: @anon

    , @Kratoklastes
    @candid_observer


    If you wish to understand the world, you need to start from true premises, and follow them to true conclusions. That’s the only way knowledge can be advanced.
     
    This, but notice something really important - the requirement for true premises restricts the domain to epistemic ways of looking at the world (that's fine by me, but it does not comport with a very large range of belief systems).

    If your premises are beliefs, and there is no guarantee that the conclusions will be true. Because there is no formal logical link between belief and truth.

    It is the millennia-long battle between doxa and episteme. Doxa has always been viewed as a more primitive and less reliable way of approaching deduction.

    WokeBorgers believe in things. They are encouraged to believe that believing [in] a thing is the same as it being true.

    They don't understand the difference between doxastic and epistemic premises, and their deductions can be untrue while being logically consistent.

    Let's say that one of my premises is that race is a social construct.

    That premise can not be a fact - because it flies in the face of evidence - but it can still be a belief.

    The Stanford Library of Philosophy is a terrific resource - its page on Epistemic Logic is really informative.

    Once you look at the modal consequences of belief, it all makes sense: in epistemic logic[s], there is axiomatic veridicality . Knowledge is veridical: only true propositions can be known.

    Notationally:

     • K[a]φ→φ

    - i.e., if a thing φ is Known [by agent a], then it is true.

    This is not the case for beliefs, which is why doxastic logic[s] are much less useful (although just as rigorous).

     • B[a]φ↛φ

    If a thing φ is Believed [by agent a], then there is no requirement that it is true.

    There is no requirement that doxastic premises are true: there is no inconsistency with maintaining a belief in a thing that is known to be false.


    The big problem is that people think that their beliefs constitute knowledge, when they don't.

    People are incorrectly taught that their beliefs/opinions/guesses are logically equivalent to facts - and the more fervently they believe a thing, the more they believe they are entitled to do violence to force their beliefs on others.

    The Wokeborg is a religion, is what I'm saying.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    , @Steve Sailer
    @candid_observer

    Otherwise, Ibram X. Kendi wins.

  • Open thread. Were there any commercials that didn't have any blacks in them? Maybe the Bruce Springsteen commercial? I only made it halfway through the Springsteen spot before I was overwhelmed by the urge to go back into my office and approve Comments, so I can't say for sure.
  • I found this tweet illuminating of the difference between Brady and Mahomes:

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @candid_observer

    Very cool graphic. First time I've seen one of these. A real case of a picture telling a thousand words.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  • From ESPN: No, race-norming is not having "the opposite effect," it is having the same effect: it prevents "the overdiagnosis of cognitive impairment in these communities." But we live in a Who? Whom? age, when the dominant question is "Is it good for the blacks?" So, to
  • How hard would it be to cheat on the Wonderlic, if so inclined? Aren’t there answers one could memorize?

    I could see players in certain positions wanting a higher score, and agents or insiders happy to oblige them.

    And I could see some players wanting to game it so that it doesn’t come out too high or too low.

  • Back on January 21, I blogged that we ought to know by Monday, February 1 whether the vaccine is working on a mass scale in Israel. From The Economist on February 3: Yet ... I dunno. I'm not convinced that these graphs are as clear-cut proof of vaccine success as The Economist claims. For one...
  • I think it’s probably going to be pretty hard to make a convincing case as to the efficacy of the vaccine by subtle arguments as to relative rates of infections, hospitalizations, or deaths across segments of the population. It would require careful controls not possible to impose.

    But in the end the numbers must come out in the large statistical wash at the end of the vaccinations. Fortunately, Israel will almost completely vaccinate its over 60 population within a few weeks, and, within a few weeks after that, the downstream effects should show up.

    If the efficacy of the vaccines is anything like what the trials found, the results should be obvious and incontestable. The numbers should be something like an order of magnitude lower, and should stay there pretty much for the duration.

    I counsel patience. We will get some clarity soon.

  • The West has been dismissing the Russian vaccine for months, because obviously anything coming out of Russia is part of a giant malign conspiracy to do us down. Yet the Russian Sputnik V vaccine keeps performing well in various tests. Here's a new peer-reviewed article in the leading British medical journal The Lancet showing Sputnik...
  • Moderna has greater side effects, but I wonder if that doesn’t come with greater benefits, which have yet to show up in the statistics.

    They did have a more challenging set of volunteers, with representative sets of over 60s and minorities, than did Pfizer. So equal point estimates of efficacy might indicate better efficacy for Moderna. Also, as I recollect, among those vaccinated, Pfizer had 1 serious case among 11 cases, whereas Moderna had 0 serious cases among 30.

    The really important numbers for serious cases and deaths were, within the trials, too small to support strong conclusions in the comparison.

    But we may see a measurable payoff in the large numbers of the real world. And it’s also possible that the higher dosage in Moderna may have a payoff in fighting mutations.

    Time, and only time, will tell.

  • OK, I was wrong in predicting that because Johnson & Johnson announced earlier this week that because their vaccine clinical trial wouldn't be released in January like they had promised, that it would be good news. Now, they tricked me and released the results in January, and they are unexciting. So, now that I think...
  • @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @Steve Sailer

    "Yes, I know, needles are scary."

    Maybe for faggots like you, Sailer.

    Nurses always remarked how stoic I was as a child getting my various and assorted jabs. Why was I unimpressed with a slight sting from a syringe? Because I played hard as a child and fought often with other boys. The pinch of a needle was nothing compared to my rough play.

    An adopted, rejected fagboi like yourself would know not of which I speak.

    Replies: @candid_observer

    I’m sure I’ll regret this, but I’m curious about which of the numbers in this tweet you seriously dispute:

    Even if these numbers are pretty far off — say, the exact number of deaths due to covid, or the exact number of infected — doesn’t the point remain?

  • One thing odd about the numbers being reported by JJ is the relative efficacy between US cohorts and those in SA, 72% and 57%. That’s a dropoff, of course, but far less dramatic than the dropoff reported in the Novavax vaccine, 89% to 60%, between UK and SA cohorts.

    Now I assume that UK has mostly been similar to the US in the tractability of the virus — the UK version has shown no greater resistance to vaccines than has the original version, from what I’ve gathered.

    But the ratio between, say, 11% infection rate and 40% is obviously dramatically different from the ratio between 28% and 43%. If one applies the ratios to the 5-6% of infected from the mRNA vaccines, one gets vastly different numbers — one quite troubling (app 20%), the other (app. 8-9%) not.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @candid_observer


    One thing odd about the numbers being reported by JJ is the relative efficacy between US cohorts and those in SA, 72% and 57%. That’s a dropoff, of course, but far less dramatic than the dropoff reported in the Novavax vaccine, 89% to 60%, between UK and SA cohorts.
     
    You may be setting up the problem incorrectly. Suppose there's a ~60% efficacy* floor for existing reasonably effective current "classic COVID-19" vaccines presented with B.1.351, the South African variant, whereas there isn't as strong a ceiling.

    * Note also we need to look at these Phase III trial protocols, others are credibly claiming they don't measure efficacy in exactly the same way.
  • From the Washington Post news section: Applications surge after big-name colleges halt SAT and ACT testing rules By Nick Anderson Jan. 29, 2021 at 1:28 p.m. PST The University of Virginia drew a record 48,000 applications for the next class in Charlottesville — about 15 percent more than the year before. Freshman applications to the...
  • @anon
    https://www.amazon.com/Ages-Discord-Peter-Turchin/dp/0996139540

    Replies: @candid_observer

    That’s an original, deep, and persuasive book.

  • From Bloomberg, on the newly announced clinical trials of the two dose Novavax vaccine: That's the English Variant. Are we now allowed to refer to germ variants after where they were discovered? That's a lot easier to remember than some random letters and digits. Or only if they are discovered in white countries? There was...
  • @That Would Be Telling
    @Steve Sailer



    Are we also concerned that these mutliple vaccines are pushing mutations to happen more quickly?
     
    It works the other way around.
     
    Anonymous[166] is correct, after enough people get vaccinated which will take some time, except in Israel. Viruses, even the coronaviruses with their unique among RNA viruses proofreading mechanism noted by Didier Raoult, mutate all the time and most of those are detrimental. But the primary circulating variants can change, it's an ecological thing. "Strain" I and the virologists I've read are reserved for something that changes enough that for example current vaccines don't work. Or like what might be seen in South Africa (will look at that tomorrow, the number of subjects aren't high so I'm curious about how big the error bars are in the efficacy calculation)) .

    We thought there wasn't a selection pressure to transmit better, but didn't realize that could happen inside a human who's not throwing it off well, in which case a variant that competes better can win, and then get transmitted to other people and become dominate ecologically. That's what we suspect for the British one, take with a grain of salt Dr. Raoult's trashing of remdesivir, he's one of the original Western HCQ boosters, although weird stuff was reported to have happened in France WRT HCQ about the same time he was prescribing it to 14K people, but it'll be a while or forever before anyone in the West gives HCQ an honest try thanks to TDS.

    I don't find him overall very credible, here note how he mentions two epitopes for the spike protein targeted by vaccines but then says only one of them has to change to make current vaccines not work, but he could be right about remdesivir. It didn't work for Ebola, and last time I checked it was doubtful it works for COVID-19, note the first US study "successful" endpoint was claimed to be shortening hospital stays. But it could as he says in a different way provide a selection pressure inside humans prescribed it, although it would be against remdesivir, only coincidentally maybe being favorable in current populations.

    Minks or not, rather uncertain how he would have the data to come to that conclusion but something is claimed to be happening to them WRT COVID-19 or maybe it's just the usual suspects trying to get the practice of mink farming shut down for good, we have every reason to expect we'll need one or more additional rounds of vaccines. SARS-CoV-2 started out suspiciously well adapted to humans, hasn't made many major changes since we first got sequences from the PRC, but we're still early in the ecological process. It's for example not like measles for which we have "eternal" vaccines, we think it jumped from rinderpest sometime in the 5th to 15th Century, thus having many centuries to adapt to us.

    Rinderpest BTW is the second virus to be eradicated from the earth after smallpox, vaccines can work wonders ... but I'll bet we're going to regret how our public health authorities trashed their credibility when it comes time to explain, OK, we've still got at least one more round of vaccines, a bit like the flu. And Dr. Raoult's comment about targeting more things than the spike protein is good, but a great deal of work has previously gone into designing safe spike protein based SARS coronavirus vaccines, we'll need to be careful if/when we add new targets. Which BTW the new Russian vaccine is probably well poised to do, there's no reason its peptide epitopes can't include other targets, perhaps ideally inspired by natural immunity patterns which I've read include the nuclocapid protein. Hopefully conserved parts of it....

    Replies: @Anonymous, @James B. Shearer, @Rob, @candid_observer

    It seems to me that there’s another point to add to your analysis, namely, the likely effect of a slow vaccine rollout, especially as considered globally.

    If, say, all mRNA vaccines were administered very quickly, the likelihood of a new strain able to escape them would be much lower, under the assumption that it would require a number of mutations in order to escape the vaccine.

    If the vaccinations were to occur very quickly, then, under the pressure of selection against the vaccine, each of the required mutations might evolve separately among the 100s of millions of vaccinated people. But they would not have a chance to combine, because they would run out of potential targets. Yet if the vaccine is rolled out slowly, then each mutation might spread to a large number of people, who can then incubate another required mutation, until, at some point, all of them are present, and the virus strain can escape the vaccines entirely.

    Anyway, this is a possibility I’ve been worrying about lately.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @candid_observer


    If the vaccinations were to occur very quickly, then, under the pressure of selection against the vaccine, each of the required mutations might evolve separately among the 100s of millions of vaccinated people. But they would not have a chance to combine, because they would run out of potential targets. Yet if the vaccine is rolled out slowly, then each mutation might spread to a large number of people, who can then incubate another required mutation, until, at some point, all of them are present, and the virus strain can escape the vaccines entirely.
     
    I would change the wording of your analysis from "combine," which implies something like the hybridization possible with flu due to its genome being split into multiple segments (TL;DR don't sneeze on pigs or let them sneeze on you (seriously)), to "accumulate."

    The big issue I see with your concern is that ignoring the founder effect (try this substituting what we're talking about for your analysis), in ideal theory each mutation in the chain would spread because that makes it more "fit" than the other variants circulating at the time. What's more fit depending selection pressures, a mutation could be neutral or negative except under the pressure of one or more vaccines, here we can simplify since almost all of them are targeting the spike protein, or natural immunity in general which includes that plus its been noticed epitopes of the nucleocapsid protein.

    So I suspect you'd need to do modeling to figure out how and if so, when what you fear is a danger. Or very possibly people have already tried this sort of thing.

    To start with extremes, no vaccines, no pressure, all vaccinated, you hopefully have something like a cliff where more than one mutation is required to transmit at all. In between, N people have natural immunity, M people have immunization from one vaccine, and O from another that for whatever reason tends to target epitopes at least a bit differently. Mutation A helps with one or more of those, B further helps, etc. I'd guess as long as sub-population P is immunologically naive and very large you're not going to get anywhere, things may get interesting in the wrong way as N, M and O get higher.
  • Last Friday, I reported that Israel's Maccabi HMO said they were seeing about 60% efficacy for older Pfizer vaccine recipients 21 days after their first dose (compared to another Israeli HMO, Clalit, reporting 33% efficacy between 14 and 17 days after the first dose). Now Maccabi reports 92% efficacy 7+ days after the second dose...
  • Here’s some further data for Israel, which may or may not be compatible with what’s reported above:

    https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/israel-shows-promising-results-from-pfizer-vaccination-campaign-657051

    In this article, Maccabi reports that 66 (of 248,000) got Covid a week or later after their second dose. I suppose that the increase of numbers may reflect a greater length of average time after the second dose for the group.

  • Here's a recent graph from Maccabi Healthcare Services, one of the 4 Israeli HMOs, on the trajectory of their first 50,000 clients vaccinated. The green line represents 50,777 members who were age 60+ and vaccinated on December 19-24 (green line) versus Maccabi's entire clientele of 480,000 age 60+ clients, including the 50k vaccinated (blue line)....
  • It’s a little hard to make out in the graph, and the data are quite limited, but the number of hospitalizations overall seem to have taken a greater dip — it peaks at 2.3%, following the rise in the number of cases, but goes down to 0.3% on the final day reported.

    I wonder if we see this because the most vulnerable — perhaps the oldest — patients were given the vaccine first, and are much overrepresented among the 60,000 vaccinated, and now much less frequently need hospitalization.

  • @Achmed E. Newman
    @HammerJack

    Heh! That's the second New Yorker cartoon I get, Hammer Jack. (Here's the other one.) I should just up and move to the Upper West Side now.

    Replies: @candid_observer

    In these last 4 years, it seemed like almost half the New Yorker cartoons were about Trump. Did you know he was Bad?

    I hope they will now find other subjects to be unfunny about.

  • From Stanford's Martin Luther King Jr. Research and Education Institute: Anybody remember how GREs were scored 70 years ago?
  • What King’s scores demonstrate is the surprisingly large size of the gap between verbal fluency and verbal IQ.

    In the real world, verbal fluency is a big deal, and not to be despised.

    I suspect, though, that in most whites, there’s a tighter correlation between verbal fluency and verbal IQ. Or, perhaps more precisely, among blacks and whites there’s a decent correlation between the two, but only when restricted to their own race. That is, King may have had a high verbal IQ for blacks, but only for blacks, and this correlates with his high verbal fluency — high for both blacks and whites.

    It’s g, but only g, which blacks seem to lack on average. In some larger sense, it’s probably whites who are the freaks of nature when it comes to g.

    • Agree: res
    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @candid_observer

    This idea that blacks have a high verbal fluency as a group is one of the biggest myths I’ve ever seen propagated. I work and have worked with countless negroes as I am a teamster (the one and only trade negroes have any representation to speak of) in Chicago and the surrounding area. For the most part, these people cannot get three words out of their mouths before an ear splitting “UHHHHH” or three is to be heard as they attempt to string a complete and coherent sentence together.

    Worth mentioning is their total obliteration of the English language as it is, with their “dats, gibs, norfs, soufs, fidd’ns, dindus and nuffins” as well as dropping the last consonant from pretty much every word they speak.

    Can some of them learn to speak well? Sure. A bear can also be taught to ride a bicycle.

    And sorry negrophiliacs, rap doesn’t count.

    Replies: @Truth

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @candid_observer

    Africans are also well known for their ability to learn and speak multiple languages fluently. A skill that Americans often confuse with high intelligence. In fact, some very high IQ aspergery people I know seem incapable of mastering even one foreign language, suggesting mimicry probably plays a significant role in language acquisition.

    Replies: @utu, @Anon, @JohnnyWalker123

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @candid_observer

    Now, that's interesting ....

  • From the Associated Press:
  • You forgot pigeons!

    Kill all pigeons!

    They threaten democracy to the core! Plus, the poop…

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Cortes
    @candid_observer

    Even more basic is the pizzino

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzino

    which is passed hand to hand. That method of transmission allows a reasonable degree of control by the sender and weak spots can be identified. I’m unsure how regularly or easily interceptions are made, but I suspect that it’s a fairly robust system in competent hands and in the appropriate milieu. Passing a pizzino in a gladhanding society doesn’t seem like the most difficult task to carry out.

    , @Mike Tre
    @candid_observer

    https://youtu.be/RJYjiNeJvXw

  • From Kathy Shaidle's last Facebook update: Kathy Shaidle 1964 - 2021 Following a tedious rendezvous with ovarian cancer, Kathy Shaidle has died, wishing she'd spent more time at the office. Her tombstone reads: GET OFF MY LAWN! She is relieved she won’t have to update her LinkedIn profile, shave her legs, or hear “Creep” by...
  • @ScarletNumber
    @candid_observer


    I have a hunch the obituary was pre-written. Isn’t that cheating?
     
    Almost all obituaries of famous people are pre-written. Or do you think that those long ones you see in the newspaper are written with such detail and style so quickly?

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Reg Cæsar

    Still, I’m surprised that Kathy didn’t wait until after she died to write it.

    • LOL: Buffalo Joe
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @candid_observer

    It's a bit sad that they didn't get it the first time huh?

  • I have a hunch the obituary was pre-written. Isn’t that cheating?

    Still, it’s refreshing to see some authentic biting wit.

    RIP, Kathy. Wish you a real improvement in your afterlife.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @candid_observer


    I have a hunch the obituary was pre-written. Isn’t that cheating?
     
    Almost all obituaries of famous people are pre-written. Or do you think that those long ones you see in the newspaper are written with such detail and style so quickly?

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Reg Cæsar

  • From the New York Times news section: That's a little over 5,000 people per day in a city of over 8 million. Heckuva job! the equivalent of about 1 percent of the city’s population. Those vaccinated so far have overwhelmingly been hospital employees, residents and workers at nursing homes and the staff at certain health...
  • @That Would Be Telling
    @MEH 0910

    Came here to mention Cuomo's pincer movement on hospitals you've supplied to us, he's certainly been showing us his inner Stalin since the beginning of this crisis.

    One thing to remember, there's absolutely no vaccine handling requirement that aligns with "use it in 7 days." See above for the short term requirements, and prior to defrosting these vaccines can be kept frozen for at least four or six months (the long term maximum is still be determined by at least one of the mRNA vaccine companies, the sort of thing you can only do for sure one day at a time).

    Replies: @candid_observer

    One idea I wanted to run past you is whether the best early, empirical sign that vaccines remain effective against new mutations is if those who have been infected by the original virus and have recovered are never, or rarely, reinfected by the mutation.

    By now, there must be 30-60M who have been infected and recovered in the US, and several times that world wide. I haven’t heard of any large number of people becoming reinfected recently. I have to guess that that would imply the new mutations are effectively handled by the vaccines.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @candid_observer


    One idea I wanted to run past you is whether the best early, empirical sign that vaccines remain effective against new mutations is if those who have been infected by the original virus and have recovered are never, or rarely, reinfected by the mutation.
     
    Yes, with the caveat that natural immunity has also been shown to include action against the nucleocapsid protein, which I've read in passing that for reasons not mentioned is not considered to be a good target for vaccines. It certainly isn't out there like the spike protein, which produces in electron microscopes the infamous corona, and is hidden behind the lipid envelope stolen from the host cell it budded off, and a tremendous amount of SARS and MERS research into spike proteins was part of how everyone could quickly develop vaccines for COVID-19.

    And while I haven't been following the research for a while, every case of "reinfection" when I did seemed to be someone who'd never finished clearing it from their body, including cases where "it" was likely just viral debris which can be detected by the gold standard RT-PCR test which only looks for a couple of small bits of the virus' RNA. Plus if short or medium term reinfection had become a big thing, you'd expect that to be widely publicized by now, especially to harm the BAD ORANGE MAN. Which is a warning if Biden is in the Oval Office January 21st, our betters will do a 180 on reporting bad news. This is a worldwide pandemic though, so that sort of suppression won't be effective for those not satisfied with the US MSM.
  • Israel now claims to be up to 9.2% of Israelis inoculated. American states are lagging about an order of magnitude behind Israel, although West Virginia and South Dakota are at least respectable. From the New York Times: From NBC News: States Number dosed % Inoculated West Virginia 44,885 2.5% South Dakota 21,144 2.4% New Mexico...
  • As with just about everything else about this pandemic, it seems impossible to get a straight answer about a phenomenon of major importance. Why is there such an enormous lag in the numbers of vaccinated, compared to the number of doses distributed?

    Reporting lag? Reluctance to take the vaccine? Improper allocation of doses? General bureaucratic incompetence at the state level in allocating vaccines?

    2020 is perhaps the year in which we fully realized there are no adults in any room. You can’t trust the bureaucrats, you can’t trust political leaders, you can’t trust the journalists, you can’t trust the scientists, you can’t trust the experts, there are no institutions worthy of your respect. It’s facades behind facades.

    You’ve got your own brain and your own judgment, and that’s all you’ve got. We are alone on this earth.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    @candid_observer


    you can’t trust the experts
     
    "Experts" these days are defined as somebody on some big institution/corporation's payroll who have an agenda to f&^% you over....

    All these "public service" advertisements showing smiling black people taking the vaccine have me lol.

    They are hunting for someone with a low enough IQ to actually believe the "experts".
    , @That Would Be Telling
    @candid_observer


    As with just about everything else about this pandemic, it seems impossible to get a straight answer about a phenomenon of major importance. Why is there such an enormous lag in the numbers of vaccinated, compared to the number of doses distributed?

    Reporting lag?
     
    Also errors by the CDC, I copied the Wednesday the 30th numbers that day not all that long after the update, and note today on the massively upgraded page a total of 205,463 additional 1st doses administered were added. So a New, Improved number of 667,000 1st doses were reported from Monday to Wednesday. Before that, or maybe including some of the additional doses, 1.2 million were administered from the 24th to 28th.

    Given how long it took the FDA to grant Emergency Use Authorizations (EUAs), 21 days for Pfizer/BioNTech on 12/11, 18 days for Moderna on 12/18, add the limited number of places that can store Pfizer/BioNTech's vaccine so many locations were simply slotted to get Moderna's, Pfizer's ORANGE MAN BAD "Oops! We've going to miss our early promises by one half," these are not bad numbers. Note also as new targets of distribution and vaccination start, like long term care facilities, 2,166,200/167,149 as of Wednesday, there will be new learning curves to master.

    The web page is a lot more interesting now, they've added a map for which you can change what it displays and how, and that section also breaks out states, territories, and four Federal entities. There's also a "Federal Pharmacy Partnership for Long-Term Care Program (Subset of Overall Numbers)" from which I got the above numbers.

    Reporting lag is definitely a part of it, especially since that's the very least important part of the whole process, and this is a concentrated holiday season, it's perfectly fine for people in the public health system to take time off and delay reporting right now. Kansas is claiming that's behind their worst or nearly worst status, but it could also be a Democratic governor who's been at war with most of the rest of the state since the pandemic started. And as always to avoid embarrassing mistakes like that Johns Hopkins video maker, read the CDC's fine print about the data. Here's the most relevant info:

    Doses distributed and people initiating vaccination (1st dose received) ... reflect current data available as of 9:00am ET on the day of reporting. Data will be regularly updated on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Updates will occur the following day when reporting coincides with a federal holiday.

    Healthcare providers report doses to federal, state, territorial, and local agencies up to 72 hours after administration. There may be additional lag for data to be transmitted from the federal, state, territorial, or local agency to CDC. A large difference between the number of doses distributed and the number of people initiating vaccination is expected at this point in the COVID vaccination program due to several factors, including delays in reporting of administered doses and management of available vaccine stocks by jurisdictions and federal pharmacy partners.

    Numbers reported on CDC’s website are validated through a submission process with each jurisdiction....

    This [Long-term care facility (LTCF)] data does not include doses distributed and administered to LTCF residents and staff outside the Federal Pharmacy Partnership Program....
     
    This page has information about the reporting systems which are mentioned in the fine print.

    Replies: @anon

    , @Jack D
    @candid_observer

    Scary but true. Our institutions are rotten from the inside. They are like a termite ridden tree - the surface may appear intact but it is just a shell concealing the rot within. The enemy is within the gates. Their missions have been subverted. The mission of the public health establishment is not public health, it is "DIE". The mission of the government establishment is DIE. The mission of the scientific establishment is DIE. The mission of the journalistic establishment is DIE. Their ostensible goals have all be subordinated to the Prime Directive. Every hiring decision, every policy decision, is tainted with DIE.

    The white males who made things run have all been MeTooed or cowed into submission. Their diverse replacements are at best incompetent and ineffectual and at worst have actively steered their institutions way from their former goals. The CDC was concerned with "epidemics" of fast food and gun violence in the minority community instead of actual epidemics. As an Atlanta based organization, they were staffed mostly with black incompetents.

    And the scary thing is that you ain't seen nothin' yet. There is still some residual white male talent, even if it is elderly and a little wokish (though not fully Woke). Guys like Biden and Fauci. These guys were never that good but what comes after them is even worse, much worse. Après eux, le déluge.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @BenKenobi

    , @Bert
    @candid_observer


    You’ve got your own brain and your own judgment, and that’s all you’ve got. We are alone on this earth.

     

    Today I posted similar evidence and the same conclusion as yours in a different thread. The only solace is having a wife or close friend who is also rational.
  • From my new column in Taki's Magazine: Read the whole thing there.
  • The NY Times recently held a discussion among “ethicists” regarding vaccination priorities:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/24/magazine/who-should-get-the-covid-vaccine-next.html

    Peter Singer seemed to be the one fairly rational voice, which he sometimes can be. As an utilitarian, he seems genuinely to believe that All Lives Matter. He also thinks it’s critical to consider years of quality life. He’s pretty harshly critical of how the CDC handled the question. On the other hand, he’s a globalist, worrying about the Global South.

    In the discussion, Emily Bazelon and participants pretend that the CDC hadn’t really had in mind to favor black lives over white ones. That’s just a vicious canard, of course.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @candid_observer

    Bazelon? Now where have I heard that name before? Thanks to Ron Unz I’ve learned plenty about this pernicious family!

  • Chimpanzees are famously good at aping, yet they never seem to make any cultural progress. From Evolution and Human Behavior: Available online 16 December 2020 Why do chimpanzees have diverse behavioral repertoires yet lack more complex cultures? Invention and social information use in a cumulative task Humans are distinctive in their dependence upon products of...
  • @candid_observer
    Michael Tomasello has devoted most of his career to exploring and delineating the differences between the great apes and human beings in cognitive and social development.

    The basic idea is that human beings have evolved a far more robust theory of mind, enabling joint intentionality between us. Joint intentionality in turn enables cultural accumulation.

    Tomasello wrote a good book on this, published in 2019, Becoming Human.

    A lot of very interesting research is summarized in the book, demonstrating a number of odd and surprising ways in which great apes are unable to perform certain seemingly elementary tasks.

    One of the great things about being alive today is to see all the research that's been done to investigate so many issues. The inventiveness of much this research is always a pleasure to see.

    Replies: @candid_observer, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    One takeaway from the research covered in the book is that great apes keep up pretty well with early human development when it comes to solving problems about things, but can’t perform seemingly elementary tasks involving some sort of social cognition. Others just aren’t a big deal among the great apes.

  • Michael Tomasello has devoted most of his career to exploring and delineating the differences between the great apes and human beings in cognitive and social development.

    The basic idea is that human beings have evolved a far more robust theory of mind, enabling joint intentionality between us. Joint intentionality in turn enables cultural accumulation.

    Tomasello wrote a good book on this, published in 2019, Becoming Human.

    A lot of very interesting research is summarized in the book, demonstrating a number of odd and surprising ways in which great apes are unable to perform certain seemingly elementary tasks.

    One of the great things about being alive today is to see all the research that’s been done to investigate so many issues. The inventiveness of much this research is always a pleasure to see.

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh
    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @candid_observer

    One takeaway from the research covered in the book is that great apes keep up pretty well with early human development when it comes to solving problems about things, but can't perform seemingly elementary tasks involving some sort of social cognition. Others just aren't a big deal among the great apes.

    , @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia
    @candid_observer

    Interesting. Does Tomasello talk about Neanderthals?

    On YouTube, there's a great talk by Svante Paabo, arguably the father of population genetics, who successfully mapped the genome of Neanderthals.

    Neanderthals were clearly a "human" species, but despite being around for 400,000 years, they never really improved technologically. They had language and art, but no real "progress." Paabo identified a particular protein related to neuronal development that Sapiens have, but Neanderthals didn't. Speculative, but interesting.

    Ray Kurzweil has said that we are probably alone in our own galaxy, because technologically advanced civilizations improve their technology at an exponential rate. Thus another Milky Way civilization that is mentally equivalent to ours and is, say, 100,000 years older, should be more or less everywhere in the galaxy with huge technological capability. But we see nothing.

    I wouldn't be surprised if elsewhere in the galaxy we have the equivalent of Neanderthals. Beings with some modicum of intelligence that are around for a really long time, but they just don't, or can't, progress.

  • From the New Statesman: How Covid-19 vaccines could rapidly reduce the UK’s death rate There is a very real possibility of Britain largely eliminating the fatality risk of the virus by early spring. BY HARRY LAMBERT ... As the graph below shows, vaccinating small portions of the population will have outsized effects: vaccinating the 2...
  • The thing I don’t get about the CDC is how it apparently refused to consider the fine grained approach to reducing deaths. I simply can’t believe that it did not occur to any among them that this was an important angle to work through. Such an oversight would, I think, represent a gross incompetence not possible even in a government agency. Certainly in the UK and in the EU, which adopted their very different plans, it was considered — would it not be communicated among epidemiologists? Does globalism not induce even this positive effect?

    Obviously, the CDC epidemiologists should have put together a model like the UK plan, and pitted it against the extreme coarse categories that the CDC in fact entertained. Instead, they stuck with their coarse categories and, supposedly, found little difference in reduction of death rates between scenarios in which those above 65 and all those who were essential workers were vaccinated first.

    Now, I have to say I frankly don’t entirely believe that the results even for the coarse categories are being fairly represented by the CDC. I wonder how many checks they have on the reporting of the results. So far as I know, the CDC has not released the software that they use to do the simulations. I simply don’t trust the results given that the person who claims to have been responsible for generating them is a radical “non-binary” SJW.

    At this point, my trust in the CDC has plummeted to a new low. There’s not even the ghost of an excuse for their failure to do their job here, given the stakes in tens of thousands of human lives.

    And epidemiologists, as a profession, have much to answer for here as well. It was left entirely to outsiders to point out the obvious defects in the CDC analysis. Can no mistake, however consequential, impel them to criticize, even gently, their colleagues? How worthless are they?

    Looking at the situation, it’s hard not to wonder if the whole point of the CDC’s otherwise incompetent modeling was to justify what they wanted to do in the first place: make sure they could favor minorities at the expense of whites — the Summum Bonum for our elites.

    Someone needs to do some serious FOIA on the processes of the CDC to get to the bottom of this. And we need to get the CDC to be open about how it does things like simulations, by releasing software.

    The behavior of the CDC here, by any reckoning, is a disgrace. It must be exposed and corrected if we are to have any reasonable trust in them going forward.

    • Agree: ic1000
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @candid_observer

    Of course it was considered. But you already know the answer - racial considerations are MUCH more important than saving lives, especially the lives of old white people. It's bloody obvious. They didn't really even try to conceal it.

    It would be shocking if the blue haired trannie that they put in charge DIDN'T hate white people. In a sane world, such a person would be placed in an institution for the mentally ill, not put in charge of important policy decisions. I wouldn't trust such a person to drive me in an Uber car, let alone make policy decisions of national importance. We are literally at the stage where the inmates are running the asylum.

    OT - here is a hilariously clueless, wrong end of the telescope view of black recruitment by Google from a fired Google recruiter:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9078173/April-Christina-Curley-black-diversity-recruiter-Google-claims-Baltimore-accent-disability.html

    Speaking of delusions, blacks suffer from the delusion that America needs them a whole lot more than we actually do. Everyone else thinks that Google is honoring them by making them a job offer, but blacks think that they are honoring Google by agreeing to grace them with their magnificen' talent of which Google is not worthy.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @kaganovitch

    , @That Would Be Telling
    @candid_observer


    Looking at the situation, it’s hard not to wonder if the whole point of the CDC’s otherwise incompetent modeling was to justify what they wanted to do in the first place: make sure they could favor minorities at the expense of whites — the Summum Bonum for our elites.
     
    Exactly. Maybe I should shout this time: THE US PUBLIC HEALTH COMMUNITY DOES NOT CARE ABOUT INFECTIOUS DISEASE CONTROL!!!

    Thus the CDC's long running gross incompetence in the subject, see their Ebola response which was directly responsible for those two nurses getting it due to not even African state of the art recommended healthcare isolation procedures, and fast forward to COVID-19. While a lot of the latter seems to be incompetence, for example only getting 4,000 people tested for COVID-19 through February, this is simply their doing what they really want to do, it's not in the least incompetence.

    Let me use a favorite example to try to pound this in, "No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die." You and the CDC are working off different scripts!!! These people come from the same group our ruling trash does, and if you're white, they literally want you dead.

    I know this is hard to believe, let alone accept, but the sooner people do it, the fewer will die from their machinations.


    The behavior of the CDC here, by any reckoning, is a disgrace. It must be exposed and corrected if we are to have any reasonable trust in them going forward.
     
    Yep, you don't get it. The CDC is working exactly as our ruling trash wants it to, first helping to get rid of the BAD ORANGE MAN, now working to get rid of as many whites as possible.

    Replies: @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @Seneca44, @Buzz Mohawk, @AnotherDad, @Corvinus

  • From the New York Times news section: Frontline Workers and People Over 74 Should Get Shots Next, C.D.C. Panel Says The recommendation was a compromise aimed at getting the coronavirus vaccine to the most vulnerable of two high-risk groups. By Abby Goodnough and Jan Hoffman Dec. 20, 2020 Striking a compromise between two high-risk population...
  • @Jack D
    @candid_observer

    More from the same article:


    Scientists routinely monitor mutations in flu viruses in order to update vaccines, and should do the same for the coronavirus, said Trevor Bedford, an evolutionary biologist at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle.

    “You can imagine a process like exists for the flu vaccine, where you’re swapping in these variants and everyone’s getting their yearly Covid shot,” he said. “I think that’s what generally will be necessary.”

    The good news is that the technology used in the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines is much easier to adjust and update than conventional vaccines. The new vaccines also generate a massive immune response, so the coronavirus may need many mutations over years before the vaccines must be tweaked, Dr. Bedford said.
     

    This is a little bit contradictory but I think what he is saying is that the vaccine is good for now, but in the long run they are going to have to tweak it and possibly require new shots every year for this year's Covid strains. I know that is not going to warm the hearts of the anti-vaxxers, who don't want to take the shot even once let alone every year but for everyone else it's not a big deal. Instead of getting just a flu shot every year you'll get a flu shot and a covid shot. I assume most of the kvetchers here don't get annual flu shots either so instead of NOT getting their annual flu shot they'll NOT get both shots.

    Replies: @candid_observer

    I’d guess, from the description in the article, that it may become necessary at some point for the vaccines to target any number of variants of the spike protein. We can certainly expect the spike protein to fork. I’d also guess that, possibly, at some point the number of variants might be so large that a single vaccine shot might not be able to activate enough of the antibodies for a given variant to be able to overwhelm it.

    The one thing that may prevent this situation is if there are features of the spike protein that are necessary to its function AND which are targeted by antibodies.

    But, even if this isn’t true, at least it would seem we’ll have some years to prepare for an army of variants. And I’d expect that any number of scientists will be working to find out how robust the antibodies might be.

    So long as they don’t work for the CDC, and they, them.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @candid_observer


    The one thing that may prevent this situation is if there are features of the spike protein that are necessary to its function AND which are targeted by antibodies.
     
    Exactly; our hope here in the long term is that there is at least one set of antibodies that targets a "conserved" part of the spike protein, exactly what you describe. We know this is possible with lots of RNA virus for which we have "eternal" vaccines, we know this doesn't happen with the flu, natural infections or vaccines, and as of yet no one has found something in it that is conserved and that they can prod the body to make antibodies against (a big part of the Wikipedia resume of the woman not at all dedicated to science who leads Oxford's COVID-19 vaccine effort is that she was "involved with the development and testing of the universal flu vaccine," which is wording for an effort that failed).

    What happens with SARS-CoV-2 remains to be seen. In our favor, from the beginning it was very well adapted to humans, suspiciously so. Normally a zoonotic crossover to humans that survives goes through a lot of changes quickly to be better adapted to us, which favors increased transmission capability, which includes less morbidity and mortality, people sick in bed or who have died aren't hardly as good at transmitting than someone who's ambulatory. Which was very helpful with SARS, I've seen claims of quick changes in the first six months it was circulating, but it never got hardly as transmissible, that was dominated by a few superspreaders, and consistent with this theory stayed very lethal.

    Note if it shifts enough to require a new vaccine, we might not need a lot of variants of it, it all depends on the ecology of circulating strains. A new one that transmits a lot better, as computer simulations of the U.K. strain claim, could displace the previous dominant strain. We've seen this happen with the flu three times in the 20th Century, H1N1 -> H2N2 -> H3N2, with a lab accident in the PRC or USSR in 1976 putting H1N1 back in circulation alongside H3N2 thanks to those 23 and younger who'd never been exposed to a H1N1 strain.
    , @Jack D
    @candid_observer

    The amount of variation has a lot to do with how much evolutionary pressure the virus is under to survive. As we begin to hunt it down, the virus "seeks" (it doesn't really have any consciousness - hell, it's not even alive) to evade the countermeasures by evolving ways around them. (What really happens is viruses without countermeasures go extinct but the ones with randomly evolved countermeasures thrive and spread). But if you hunt down ALL the survivors, it makes no difference. We don't have to worry about variants of smallpox evolving because it's extinct in the wild and no longer in any position to evolve. So the most dangerous point is where you are pushing the virus into a corner but not enough to wipe it out it completely.

    Replies: @Kyle

  • @Jack D
    @That Would Be Telling

    Last night I heard that the mutation in the new strain was in the spike protein, which is not encouraging since that it the target of the vaccine. The mutation makes the spike even better at latching on to cells, which is why this strain is more infectious (though not necessarily more deadly).

    The question is whether the mutation will be enough to render the new vaccine ineffective. This is one of those "we don't know the answer yet" questions that allow people to wildly speculate but the answer is most likely not. Worst case, they could alter the formula of the vaccine to code for the new protein or for some of each. It would be a relatively easy fix.

    BTW, the 1918 "Spanish" flu started out being pretty much an ordinary flu but at some point it mutated and became much more deadly. The flu had nothing to do with Spain except for the fact that Spain was neutral in the war so its newspapers were not censored and reported the epidemic in their country. In all other major countries, the wartime censors suppressed the news of the epidemic as damaging to the war effort. Wilson never once uttered the word "flu". Pretty good documentary on the epidemic on PBS the other night.

    Replies: @candid_observer

    An article in the NY Times is informative:

    The British announcement also prompted concern that the virus might evolve to become resistant to the vaccines just now rolling out. The worries are focused on a pair of alterations in the viral genetic code that may make it less vulnerable to certain antibodies.

    But several experts urged caution, saying it would take years — not months — for the virus to evolve enough to render the current vaccines impotent.

    “No one should worry that there is going to be a single catastrophic mutation that suddenly renders all immunity and antibodies useless,” Dr. Bloom said.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/20/health/coronavirus-britain-variant.html

    So the argument is that, in response to the vaccine, the body generates a large array of antibodies against the current spike protein, and if some of them are rendered obsolete by a mutation, many others will remain effective. The argument seems to make sense. One hopes it is sound.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @candid_observer

    More from the same article:


    Scientists routinely monitor mutations in flu viruses in order to update vaccines, and should do the same for the coronavirus, said Trevor Bedford, an evolutionary biologist at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle.

    “You can imagine a process like exists for the flu vaccine, where you’re swapping in these variants and everyone’s getting their yearly Covid shot,” he said. “I think that’s what generally will be necessary.”

    The good news is that the technology used in the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines is much easier to adjust and update than conventional vaccines. The new vaccines also generate a massive immune response, so the coronavirus may need many mutations over years before the vaccines must be tweaked, Dr. Bedford said.
     

    This is a little bit contradictory but I think what he is saying is that the vaccine is good for now, but in the long run they are going to have to tweak it and possibly require new shots every year for this year's Covid strains. I know that is not going to warm the hearts of the anti-vaxxers, who don't want to take the shot even once let alone every year but for everyone else it's not a big deal. Instead of getting just a flu shot every year you'll get a flu shot and a covid shot. I assume most of the kvetchers here don't get annual flu shots either so instead of NOT getting their annual flu shot they'll NOT get both shots.

    Replies: @candid_observer

  • From Ross Douthat's column today in the New York Times: Then there’s the now-pressing question of who actually gets the vaccine first, which has been taken up at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in a way that throws the limits of science-trusting into even sharper relief. Last month their Advisory Committee on Immunization...
  • BTW, today we are allowed to comment at the CDC site on the recommendations.

    https://www.regulations.gov/comment?D=CDC-2020-0124-0003

  • @candid_observer
    @candid_observer

    Why doesn't the CDC make the software it uses to do its modeling available to the public, as do many other researchers today?

    Shouldn't this be standard practice for such controversial issues?

    If, say, Nate Silver is dead wrong in his criticisms, and the UK approach is really little better than is that of the CDC, wouldn't releasing the software demonstrate to him and others just how wrong he is?

    Replies: @candid_observer

    I’d also like to know: why didn’t the CDC itself model a granular approach like the UK, and test that against their coarse model?

    We’re the US — we couldn’t afford to make that happen anywhere in our vast federal agencies?

  • With the CDC arguing that white men don't deserve to get vaccinated against Covid because they live so long, it's worth checking out the CDC's own statistics, which show that Hispanics live an average of three years longer than whites: Asians live even longer than Hispanics, but nobody pays attention to them. Of course, men...
  • @prosa123
    @candid_observer

    Evaluating genetic causes of the Hispanic Paradox is complicated because Hispanics are far from genetically similar. It might be that the effects are most pronounced among those of mestizo/Indio origins, but if that's been researched I don't know it.

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    Even if the mixture of Indio genes varies across Hispanic groups, the average (or median) is quite different from most whites in the US. That difference should result in measurable effects.

    And in fact it offers an opportunity to demonstrate a genetic effect: see if life expectancy varies with degree of Indio mixture.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @candid_observer

    This might not work because Indio mixture is also associated with cultural practices such as diet. The more Indio you are, the more likely it is that you are going to consume (or at least grew up consuming) an Indio diet that is heavy on corn, beans, chiles, etc. while whiter (ergo wealthier) Hispanics are more likely to have consumed a more European diet with more meat, dairy, pastry, etc.

  • @prosa123
    One possible explanation for the "Hispanic Paradox" is that people in poor health are relatively unlikely to immigrate to the United States. Another one is that when elderly or in failing health some foreign-born people return to their home countries to die.

    Replies: @Old and Grumpy, @David, @Daniel Williams, @candid_observer, @Kyle, @nebulafox, @Flip, @Patrick Boyle, @S. Anonyia

    Wikipedia covers the various explanations, and studies.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_paradox

    Of course, being Wikipedia, short shrift is given to any idea that Hispanics have a genetic advantage.

    But in general the various studies assuming some selection factor or environmental explanation never seem to have an account that produces, convincingly, the full effect.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @candid_observer

    Evaluating genetic causes of the Hispanic Paradox is complicated because Hispanics are far from genetically similar. It might be that the effects are most pronounced among those of mestizo/Indio origins, but if that's been researched I don't know it.

    Replies: @candid_observer, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    , @Anon
    @candid_observer

    Covid-19 has nearly eliminated the Hispanic paradox.


    https://academic.oup.com/psychsocgerontology/advance-article/doi/10.1093/geronb/gbaa158/5902962


    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.12.20148387v3


    Our findings indicate that as a result of the pandemic, the time-tested Latino paradox has rapidly diminished due to higher COVID-19 mortality among older Latino adults compared to non-Latino Whites. Future research should continue to monitor the impact of COVID-19 to assess the disparate impact of the pandemic on older non-Latino Black, Latino, and non-Latino White adults as additional data become available
     
    Turns out Hispanics were just lucky to be living in an atypically hygienic and successful country with a liberal healthcare system, which they frequently abuse. Now that that country is finished they are sliding back to their natural mortality rates.

    Replies: @HA, @danand

    , @Lot
    @candid_observer

    Hispanic advantage is overwhelmingly less heart disease and cancer, which as I noted is fueled by not having the larger physical size and cold weather adaptations of north euro Americans.

    They tend to be closer to family, and we mentally associate this as a positive, Grama taking care of the kids while Mom works, then being taken care of herself in her 80s and 90s. But family members also impose stresses and diseases on each other.

    Aside from cancer and heart disease,

    “ Hispanics had higher death rates from diabetes, chronic liver disease and cirrhosis, homicide, and essential hypertension and hypertensive renal disease, and they had higher prevalences of obesity and uncontrolled hypertension. They also had decreased access to health care and some preventive care services.”

    Again, it’s genetic, Hispanics on most fronts besides smoking have less healthy lifestyles than whites.

    AJs, another mostly Med population, live 5 years longer than Anglo-Saxons:

    “According to British census data, Jews live an average of five to six years longer than their gentile counterparts, and there may be nearly three times as many Jewish centenarians as in the general U.K. population.”

    https://forward.com/culture/140894/may-you-live-until-120-dna-uncovers-secrets-to-je/

  • From Ross Douthat's column today in the New York Times: Then there’s the now-pressing question of who actually gets the vaccine first, which has been taken up at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in a way that throws the limits of science-trusting into even sharper relief. Last month their Advisory Committee on Immunization...
  • @candid_observer
    Unbelievably, here's the person who claims on Twitter to be responsible for the projections of the CDC:

    https://twitter.com/jo_walker_atl?lang=en

    If this is true, does anyone trust that those projections have been done without twisting to push ideological goals?

    Again, at least we will have UK as a counterexample. This person is essentially predicting that there's going to be little difference.

    Replies: @candid_observer

    Why doesn’t the CDC make the software it uses to do its modeling available to the public, as do many other researchers today?

    Shouldn’t this be standard practice for such controversial issues?

    If, say, Nate Silver is dead wrong in his criticisms, and the UK approach is really little better than is that of the CDC, wouldn’t releasing the software demonstrate to him and others just how wrong he is?

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @candid_observer

    I'd also like to know: why didn't the CDC itself model a granular approach like the UK, and test that against their coarse model?

    We're the US -- we couldn't afford to make that happen anywhere in our vast federal agencies?

  • Unbelievably, here’s the person who claims on Twitter to be responsible for the projections of the CDC:

    https://twitter.com/jo_walker_atl?lang=en

    If this is true, does anyone trust that those projections have been done without twisting to push ideological goals?

    Again, at least we will have UK as a counterexample. This person is essentially predicting that there’s going to be little difference.

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @candid_observer

    Why doesn't the CDC make the software it uses to do its modeling available to the public, as do many other researchers today?

    Shouldn't this be standard practice for such controversial issues?

    If, say, Nate Silver is dead wrong in his criticisms, and the UK approach is really little better than is that of the CDC, wouldn't releasing the software demonstrate to him and others just how wrong he is?

    Replies: @candid_observer