Then surely a putative NATO member Ukraine will be that much farther from Moscow as Russian military can clear out UkroNazi Azov scum.

Putin isn't making any demands over Azov.

Looks like it was just another bullshit reason for the war.

He also massively reduced his demands on the Ukrainian military size.

Both Yeltsin and Putin discussed joining NATO with US, but the laughter at the White House was so loud that it was heard in Moscow.

Nothing was preventing them from applying.

Rumors aside they never applied and neither did Ukraine.

Finland however applied and was quickly accepted. Which leads to the question of why Ukraine never joined from 2014-2021 if there was some Western conspiracy to add them.

The ONLY purpose of NATO before USSR dissolved and now — is to dismember the Russian Federation

On Russian State TV they talk about how the Baltics should be under the rule of Moscow.

Do you think the tiny Baltics see a purpose of NATO? What would stop Putin from declaring the Baltics as historic Russia? Lithuania in fact has a Russian minority.

Russia has invaded 3 different countries under Putin plus there was a war to keep the Chechens from leaving.

Russia's reputation of invading their neighbors is not the fault of NATO. Putin has cemented the reputation of Russia as a nation that cannot be trusted.

Why don’t you enlighten me with your five dimensional chess game plan? Because Chinese strong position on two dimensional chessboard is slowly being weaken day by day.

If China won’t assert global leadership soon she will be pushed back inside and out of the world engagement and then perhaps even re colonize in the long term perspective as US empire will keep feeding on the devoured world (EU, Americas, Asia then Russia) enough to put pressure and exploit Chinese internal contradictions. Cutting China from Venezuela, Persian gulf and Russia would mean sharp decline of China and deep internal crisis. And that is not just theory but clear open aim of US today not hundred years from now where China is looking blind to real and present threats. In pre nuclear era I would praise China’s long walk approach but now if Chinese discounted the fact the US can obliterate China in a suicidal feat they are wrong as insanity of imperial hubris took over US and regime change in DC is overdue to avoid war.

Replies: @Poupon Marx

REAL War Criminals. Albanian scum.
 

Replies: @Felpudinho

Comment #345 by Poupon Marx has a video that explains the law pretty well. The case I'm referring to is Plurnhoff v Rickard (2014) which was referrnced to me by a lawyer I know who's defended people who had to use firearms in self-defense.

Agent deliberately moved in front of the vehicle to block it: completely reckless.
 

Sorry, my mistake in my previous comment. I had to go re-watch the videos. The officer is actually standing on the passenger's side, filming Renee Good's wife, at the beginning of the encounter. He then walks across the front of her parked car, presumably to film Good from the driver's side. She then backs up and veers, placing him in her path. At no point was he blocking or attempting to block her vehicle.

She was no felon.
 

1. Obstruction of Justice: Under federal law, obstructing an officer in the performance of their official duties is a serious offense. This includes actions such as physically blocking ICE agents, providing false information, or using intimidation to prevent an arrest. Depending on the circumstances, individuals could face misdemeanor or felony charges, leading to fines and potential jail time.
 

Replies: @Same old same old, @Ron Unz

Yes, and the Germans will be marchng onto Russia yet again with a predictable outcome, Russians being another people they viscerally hate.

When NATO illegally attacked Yugoslavia in 1999 and murdered 1,000 of Serbs, Germany was the lead champion of the attack, and for the first time after WW2, German military (air force) was deployed to attack/bomb another country.
 

Germans maintain some kind of deep, irrational hatred for Serbs.
 

Replies: @Avery

Her ex-husband was awarded custody of her two older children. A husband gets custody only 20% of the time in a divorce and only for very good reasons. Both she and her lesbian lover left her child alone so they could feel like heroes harrrassing and impeding law enforcement in legal pursuit of their duties. Sounds like "neglect" to me.

You are obviously completely unfamiliar with the law. It is settled law that a sworn law enforcement officer can shoot at a suspect fleeing in a vehicle. That's not my opinion, that's the law. In this case, the shot went through the windshield, which means the officer was in front of her. That's an open and shut case. According to the law. Whether you "feel" it should be different or not.

Replies: @Commentator Mike, @Wokechoke, @Avery

I believe this video will go a long way in clearing up the matter. This woman had already broken the law by inserting herself in a legally sanctioned operation, and then compounding it by blocking the road causing an impediment.

She then either panics or angrily accelerates rapidly, in a highly charged emotional state, strikes a glancing blow to the official, who discharged his weapon, as he was trained to do. From his point of view, his perception, and split second cognitive evaluation, he is to be given the benefit of the doubt that this woman was using her vehicle in an attempted homicide, against him.

Arm chair analysis, Monday morning quarterbacking, and emotional preening for virtue signaling is unsightly and repugnant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y04ndAPynMk

Replies: @Lawrence Erickson, @Felpudinho

Ron can address the "off-topic" issue if he chooses, but as you must know
by now, "McNally" is a Jewish troll whose primary objective is to defend
Jewish Bolsheviks and defame Hitler and Germany.

To tell the truth, I think the Panzers, and whoever else of the Europeans gets hooked, are being played to replay WWII. There is something in the German character that makes them easy to manipulate, without them being aware of it, and their megalomanic delusions of Aryan grandeur make them unable to see how things really are. So they're being pushed to go to war against Russia yet again, and some of their present allies could well drop out when the going gets tough. US, and possibly the UK, will then turn on the Germans yet again. If in the confusion and mayhem of war, amidst the mass murders and massacres that will be a part if it, the Muslim and other immigrants are cleaned out of Europe, then maybe it wouldn't be so bad.

Replies: @Greg Garros

Wouldn’t you love to make that asshole dig a ditch under a broiling hot Sun 🌞 for 10 hours. Remember the scene in Cool Hand Luke where they have him dig a hole, fill it back up, then dig again. lol. I am a compassionate human being but seeing that dick have to sweat would be euphoric. Ben, what’s your dirt doing in my yard?

His hands would blister in probably 5 minutes. A lot of people especially pricks like Ben Shatpiro and Trump are soulless and lack empathy because they haven’t been knocked down or can’t relate to struggle. We live in a nation ran by people like Shatpiro and Trump, from supervisors on the job site to “our elected public servants.” There are people out there making 6-7 figures a year who do next to nothing, many are titles not actual jobs.

"Conversely, the Globo West has been progressively erasing SU/Red Army lion’s share of fighting and sacrifice in defeating Nazi Germany."

Yes. If 2/3 of Germany's forces weren't on the eastern front, the allied attack on Europe may have turned out much differently.

I was wondering the same thing. US Soldiers died fighting in the Arkhangelsk region. Thousands more were in Vladivostok.

https://www.amazon.com/When-Hell-Froze-Over-Haliday/dp/1596874309/ref=sr_1_3?crid=247EN7T7A7B8I&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.IXJd05njNeArXmVo3Otbyg0nauQui-qCAKNXBAkiq3YLvpRUOPK3N3EWyufd3Ab7CVN9miLZIZj0dZKWSm4yK2w4_o-LyGMtImfpcL5FuQ0.4W0vLyymaLpFYkVfmlbhXzBpbSWKXBgM_nx_6KZm3FA&dib_tag=se&keywords=when+hell+froze+over+book&qid=1768047792&sprefix=when+hell+froze+over%2Caps%2C283&sr=8-3

Replies: @fnn

Quigley was a commie/kook.

'West wanted to destroy the Bolsheviks'

oh yeah...that's why they became allies of the Commies in WWII & supplied them with enormous material/military aid via 'lend lease' to defeat Nazi Germany because they wanted to 'destroy the Bolsheviks'...

Lol

Replies: @Quantum007, @Bankotsu, @Bankotsu

From Wiki. I know not the most reliable of sources but..

However, while Soviet propaganda often portrayed Allied intervention as an alliance dedicated to crushing a nascent, worldwide communist revolution in the cradle, in reality the Allies were not particularly interested in intervention. While there were some loud voices in favour, such as Winston Churchill, these were very much in the minority. The main concern for the Allies was to defeat the German Empire on the Western Front. While the Bolsheviks' repudiation of Russia's national debt and seizure of foreign-owned industries did cause tension, the main concern for the Allies was the Bolshevik's desire to get Russia out of the First World War. The Allies disliked the Whites, who were seen as nothing more than a small group of conservative nationalists who showed no signs of planning reform. Government ministers were also influenced by anti-White public opinion, which was being mobilised by trade unions. The low casualties suffered by the Allies is indicative of the low level of their combat involvement. However, the Soviets were able to exploit the Allied intervention for propaganda purposes
 

Replies: @Bankotsu

https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2009/04/gentle-introduction-to-unqualified_15/

For example, Herbert Hoover, in his biography of Woodrow Wilson, notes that:

During the Armistice all of the Allied and Associated Powers were involved in supporting attacks by “White” armies against the Soviet Government. In Siberia, the United States and Japan were supporting the White Army of General Kolchak. From the Black Sea, the British and French were supporting the White Armies of Generals Denikin and Wrangel. The Allies, including the United States, had taken Murmansk on the Arctic to prevent large stores of munitions, sent to aid the Kerensky regime, from reaching the Communists. Later the British supported a White Army under General Yudenich in an attack directed at Petrograd from the Northern Baltic.

The British and French exerted great pressure on Mr. Wilson for Americans to join in a general attack on Moscow. General Foch drew up plans for such an attack. Winston Churchill, representing the British Cabinet, appeared before the Big Four on February 14, 1919, and demanded a united invasion of Russia.

The Americans then experience a sudden change of heart. Not only that, they ponder the large war debts owed by their allies to them. In an internal note by Tasker Bliss:

It is perfectly well known that every nation in Europe, except England, is bankrupt, and that England would become bankrupt if she engaged on any considerable scale in such a venture.

I.e.: “Hey, can you guys really afford that?” Hoover himself supplies additional reasons, in a letter to Wilson (bear in mind that Hoover had considerable experience as an engineer in Czarist Russia):

We have also to… consider, what would actually happen if we undertook military intervention. We should probably be involved in years of police duty, and our first act would probably in the nature of things make us a party with the Allies to re-establishing the reactionary classes. It also requires consideration as to whether or not our people at home would stand for our providing power by which such reactionaries held their position. Furthermore, we become a junior in this partnership of four. It is therefore inevitable that we would find ourselves subordinated and even committed to politics against our convictions.

In other words: no way is the Light of Democracy, the Republic of Eagles, going to help put the old Baltic barons back in charge. Time’s arrow has moved on, baby. The wind of change is blown. The great experiment must commence
 

Western governments gave lip service to helping the Russian Whites against the Reds. But they always backed off when that would mean real action that could turn the tide.

Vogel, you Turk shill,
 

haven’t you heard of the Armenian Genocide ?
 

Replies: @Tennessee Jed, @Avery

Yeah I´m not sure why in the otherwise ok article suddenly he interjects such nonsense.
Either it is trolling or someone with no clue.

Most turks are however just that, of course hand full of Kurds are here too.
They are mostly from low-developed regions and low IQ. I don´t mind Turks in Turkey, the decent folks stay there. But not these economic refugees.

Sometimes they clash because of their conflict, another reason why these non-wanted immigrants have to leave the country.

The thing is however, against the natives they often smear als "Scheißdeutsche" and "Christenschweine" (shit germans and christian pigs) all foreigners stick together and forget about conflicts.

Some years ago there was a illegal negro refugees camp in Berlin at a central place in a turkish ghetto. One day a turk was walking over this place and the negroes told him to leave. He refused and so turks and negroes clashed. The police came and guess what happened? The turks and negroes fought together against the cops. I found this kinda funny because I don´t have any pity for the systems thugs who violently beat up protesters like grannys or raid people because they posted memes about politicans.

Replies: @Avery

It is possible the CIA, working with the British, did this without approval or knowledge of Trump.
 

"Delusional panzers dearly cling to the comforting myth that if not for the help from the West, Soviet Union would have lost."

Welcome to Stalin, the biggest panzers of all. Rebutting the biggest stupid:

"At the 1943 Tehran Conference, Joseph Stalin famously stated that without American machines (like trucks, locomotives, and raw materials) provided via the Lend-Lease Act, the Soviet Union "would have lost the war," emphasizing the crucial role of U.S. industrial aid in sustaining the Eastern Front against Nazi Germany. He specifically mentioned planes and machines, acknowledging that while Soviet "blood" won battles, Western supplies enabled the war effort, a sentiment echoed by Khrushchev, who recalled Stalin saying the U.S. saved them." (AI generated)

Replies: @Billy Bob

While the number of lend-lease tanks/weapons were not really significant given Soviet production, generic motor transport was. As is commonly acknowledged, war is actually won by superior logistics.

Replies: @Avery

You have continued to focus on whether Germany should take over the occupied territory although the actual issue, as I previously pointed out, is that Russia is definitely not entitled to it, and the pretexts commonly cited to justify the occupation are flimsy. For instance, referring to the Potsdam conference you wrote:

....the USSR’s administration would hold “pending the final determination of territorial questions at the peace settlement”...
 

and us also eventually got kicked out so it’s not a specific disgrace assigned to Russia.

 

You are once again ignoring my whole argument because you are a disingenuous lickspittle that can't stand anyone bursting his internet derived power fantasy. Allowing a few jewish liaisons to exist is one thing, slanting foreign policy on numerous occasions in favor of the Israelis at the expense of your nominal allies is quite another. Remember no matter how much you defend daddy Putin online he will always hold the wellbeing of the genocidal, mass-raping, and egomaniacal Israelis higher than some anonymous putz projecting his homoerotic hero fantasies upon him. Afterall the Israelis and the Russians are just alike, just compare the behavior of the Red Army with the modern IDF, practically indistinguishable.

"I am of Armenian ancestry"

You say Armenian ancestry, not Armenian. Are you maybe American?
And if so, then you were not in the Soviet Union or in the Eastern Block countries before Communism collapsed and you do not understand why people who were so much dislike someone like Putin wanting to recreate the Soviet Union, albeit with an oligarch gangster economy instead of Communistic economy.

"I am sympathetic to Russia and Russian people for a variety of reasons. "

Relations with Armenian and Russia are good, but you do not necessarily understand European experiences of Russia.

New Years’ Greeting from President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.
Happy New Year to all you Anti-Christian, Russophobe, anti-Putin, anti-American ZioNazi shills and trolls.

God bless Orthodox Christianity.
God bless President Putin.
God bless America.
God bless American people.
God bless Russian people – friends of American people since the Revolution.
God bless these (formerly) United States as envisioned by our wise Founding Fathers*.

May she fully recover and leave the ICU.
Infected -- possibly fatally -- by the foreign European Zionist Straussian Sorovirus .
May she – God willing -- excise the SorosaVirus and thrive once again.
Happy 250th America.

[Rasputin Putin]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uw_czggrtk

F_____ Around Mother Russia and Find Out


________________________________
*
["Honest commerce and friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none (Zionist/Lukidnik anti-Christian Israel)" is a famous phrase from George Washington's Farewell Address (1796), advocating for neutral, fair trade and avoiding permanent foreign political ties to protect U.S. independence, a policy later echoed by Thomas Jefferson in his 1801 inaugural address, forming the bedrock of early American foreign policy. ]
[ "America goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy"] Quincy John Adams.
Respect and deep bow to Native Americans.

The origin of all Slavs is Poland-Belarus-Ukraine. Slavic languages appeared in the Migration period 500-800 CE and the population derived from the local neolithic population of this area. The homeland is disputed, but it may be Polesian wetlands close to Minsk. In Russia the first Slavic settlements were on the shores of Ilmen lake and date to 800-900 CE. At that time still the whole of Russia was populated by non-Slavic people who spoke non-Slavic languages. Slavs spread in Early Middle Ages. So, they are
not an ancient people in the area, but what genetically is Slavic people are people in
the areas Poland, Ukraine and Belarus. Russians especially are a mixed population.
Northern Russians have a strong Fenno-Ugric admixture and there are other admixtures
in different parts of Russia. This is natural because Russia grew by conquest and conquered peoples often had to make a language shift. So, Russians are not actually genetically Slavs and they are not one people. They only were forced to speak Russian at some time in the history.

The ones that most dislike Russians are the two largest real Slavic peoples: Ukrainians and Poles. It is not because Russians would be Untermenchen or Poles and Ukrainians hate Slavs. It is because Russians invade other countries and try to control them.

I personally do not find Slavs, like Poles, as Untermenchen at all, even married one and learned their language. But Russians do have an attitude problem towards other peoples.
However, certain commenters here on TUR seem to be quite childish. Probably very young and not Slavic at all.

Replies: @Avery

"It is the West that is whipping up the pro-war anti-Russian hysteria, and this may work in their own populations, but I think most people in Easter Europe do not buy it. "

I have not seen any pro-war anti-Russian hysteria in any European countries, including Poland and Finland. Have you by the way watched Intercepted (in Ukrainian Peaceful people) by Oksana Karpovych 2024, below is some information about it
https://www.sestry.eu/en/statti/i-like-killing-people-how-conversations-that-no-one-was-supposed-to-hear-became-dialogues-everyone-must-listen-to

I have not seen the film, but I remember very well those intercepted telephone calls from Russian soldiers to their home folks in the beginning of the war when Russian communications was not encrypted. They were later given as evidence to the International Criminal Court, checked for authenticity and found authentic, so they are not any propaganda. Maybe, if you read the article above or watch the film, you admit that there can be some justification to negative attitudes towards Russians from the Ukrainian side. At least a tiny bit.

But as I said, there is no Russophobia. Phobia is fear. Putin would like Europeans to fear Russia (he uses the word "respect" but it means the same thing), but Europeans do not fear Russia. Ukrainians do not fear Russia, Finns do not fear Russia, Poles do not fear Russia. Russians can be stopped. But it does not mean that they do not know that what the Interception film tells of Russian soldier and home-folk attitudes to even their brother nation, not to say of other nations, is true. You see, that's how they are. Their particular beauty.

Replies: @Commentator Mike

As I've said many many times before, the *ONLY* danger China possibly faces is the emergence of a Gorbachev type figure from within the Chinese Politburo. Apart from that, China is absolutely invulnerable and invincible against all external enemies, whether combined or singular.

There is a clear moral here. Both Gorbachev and Yeltsin purposely sucked up to the USA in the same way as flies suck up shit. 'Yes sir, no sir, three bags full, sir'. The hard hawks who run the USA knew how to play the game alright. They led the twin dumb cunts down the proverbial garden path, strung them along, and got all they wanted out of them - and more!!!! - and then when they were spent like the cheap 50 cent whores that they were, unceremoniously dumped them and shit all over their big, fat, ugly smelly faces.

MORAL:
'Tis better to trust a nest of vipers than to trust the USA.

Replies: @antibeast

Yeah that guy doesn’t understand. Even back in 2006 Chavez (below) noted Venezuela didn’t sell much oil to China. Even now - China was basically only taking Venezuela’s oil to pay off the debt that China loaned to Venezuela. It was more a solidarity thing than anything else - to help Venezuela stay afloat. It could get the same amount of oil from closer sources

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hHv0Ud1bXmg&pp=ygUZSXRuIGh1Z28gY2hhdmV6IGludGVydmlldw%3D%3D

Replies: @antibeast

So, Charles XII was marching towards Moscow. He got to Grodno, Belarus, did not meet Peter the Great's army there so he turned South to face Peter's army in Poltava, Ukraine. He did not invade Moscow. He was not even close. Certainly the Battle of Poltava was the biggest defeat of the Swedish army. But Sweden did not invade Russia as the start of the war against poor Russia. It was that Russia, Denmark and Poland attacked Sweden.

Mike, you asked if the protesters in Maidan were killed by snipers of by police. I checked the first victim, Serhiy Nigoyan. The first victim is decisive as that started it.

Thus, an autopsy was made and Nigoyan was shot with lead pellets from a shotgun of the type used by law enforcement, especially Berkut special forces.

Could it be a sniper? No. A sniper would not use a shotgun as a shotgun is deadly from a too short range and a sniper needs to escape and uses a longer range and more accurate weapon, a sniper rifle.

But Euromaidan itself has little importance in this war. It is not much of an issue how this conflict started. What matters is that even though before Maidan and even before 2022 a sizable part of Ukraine population especially in the East and South were pro-Russia, they are not so any more. The reason is simple: Russians came, bombed their houses and killed their relatives and friends. That is not the best way to make friends.
See this article from a Russian outlet (opposition, but still perfectly Russian)
https://theins.ru/en/society/283514

It is this The Insider:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Insider_(website)

I pointed that (about Zelensky, Johnson, Merkel and Holland) out to j2, but as you see he is denying it and has a different interpretation of the events. I suppose he reflects the views (or is it propaganda?) of the Finnish military, politicians and society in general.

Replies: @j2

Addendum:

These same Eurotrash instigated the current war in Ukraine.
Zelenstein -- voted on a platform of Peace -- was ready to sign a peace treaty.
Until The City of London Bankster Eurotrash PM Boris Johnson flew in and kicked off another round of Eurotrash Slav killings.

France's Holland and Germany's Merkel openly boasted that they used the Minsk agreements to re-arm UkroNazis -- to continue murdering ethic Russians.

The Eurotrash ghouls have succeeded in causing the death of another 1,000,000+ Orthodox Christian Slavic peoples.

Russia has an arsenal about 10,000 nuclear warheads.
It's time she used them on Eurotrash.

Replies: @Commentator Mike

"Swedish King invading Moscow: he got F___ed."

Incorrect. You mean the Swedish king Charles XII in the Great Northern War. He did not invade Moscow, nor did he aim to. He faced Peter the Great in the Battle of Poltava in Ukraine and lost. He lost because he had lost far too many men to disease, cold, hunger and Ukrainian partisans in Ukraine before the battle. But the one who started the was was Peter the Great. Sweden did not invade Russia, Russian led coalition attacked Sweden. While the Swedish army was in Ukraine, Peter the Great invaded Finland in what is called the Great Hatred, Cossacks raped and killed a large number of civilians and burned all they could.

There was a Swedish Field Marshal who did go and stay in Moscow with his army, Jacob de la Gardie. But he was called there by Russians in order to protect Russia as Russians themselves could not protect their country against Poles. Many times foreigners have had to come to help Russians, like the USA helped them in the WWII, Napoleon helped Russia to get Finland in 1809, and Hitler supported Russia in the Winter War. And without Ukrainians Russians would have lost to Napoleon and Hitler.

Replies: @Avery

You missed by two years, (this time, only):

Between June 1941 and May 1945, Great-Britain delivered to the USSR:
• 3,000+ Hurricane aircraft
• 4,000+ other aircraft
• 27 naval vessels
• 5,218 tanks (including 1,380 Valentines from Canada)
• 5,000+ anti-tank guns
• 4,020 ambulances and trucks
• 323 machinery trucks (mobile vehicle workshops equipped with generators and all the welding and power tools required to perform heavy servicing)
• 1,212 Universal Carriers and Loyd Carriers (with another 1,348 from Canada)
• 1,721 motorcycles
• £1.15bn ($1.55bn) worth of aircraft engines
• 1,474 radar sets
• 4,338 radio sets
• 600 naval radar and sonar sets
• Hundreds of naval guns
• 15 million pairs of boots

Why lie?

Replies: @Patrick McNally

I do not defend blindly.

In what manner do you defend the Bolsheviks/Soviets?

Audie Murphy was a child soldier! At the ripe-0ld age of 17, which is not 16, so it’s not really the same?

Aren’t we all the whores of World Wide Jewry at this point? At least the NS Germans put-up a fight, whereas Churchill/FDR just bent right on over, taking their countrymen down with them, lying and manipulating all the way….Donald Trump receives a golden pager replica and over he goes; Charlie Kirk prefers not to bend, yet over he goes, one way or another, then his bedazzled wife struts around in leather pants, shabbat-shaloming in our faces. They, whomever they are, do whatever they want and NO ONE stops them.

At the very least, Stalin, once weary of Jewish=Bolsheviki subterfuge and shenanigans, whacked a pile of them, eventually. I’ll give him that…

The correct expression is - Don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining.

I am female, and I would never have sex with a child. (17 yo Henry Cavill? Maybe…) This stupid sex question of yours is irrelevant and nonsensical. Era and culture, and sometimes necessity, have significant bearing on “best practices” with regard to the appropriate age for children to participate in adult endeavors; 12 yo girls were once considered appropriately aged for marriage, and still are in some places; young boys were trained/initiated as warriors in preparation for manhood in a difficult and often violent world. If a war happened to arrive, they were utilized, often willingly.

You are hysterically indicting the “Nazis” for universal practices, right or wrong/currently acceptable or not, and ignoring, as usual, Soviet (and worldwide) participation in same. You cited a specific case of German forced child combat, inaccurately, and you clearly know NOTHING about the subject matter for which you are attempting to rake the Germans over the coals. You’re very silly, Avery.

These children defended Stalingrad, flew warplanes, were some of the best snipers in the Red Army, with a few even receiving the title of Hero of the Soviet Union, the highest military decoration in the country.

…the fight against the Nazis involved almost everyone: men, women, elderly people and even children. …Tens of thousands of minors joined the resistance movement and the regular army…

In October 1941, sixteen-year-old Vasily Kurka joined the Red Army units retreating from Mariupol and asked to be enlisted in the 395th Infantry Division. Given his young age, Vasily was not sent to the frontline, but was kept in the rear services. Having learnt that soldiers were being recruited for sniper training, he convinced his commanding officers to give him a chance…Before he was killed in January 1945 fighting for Poland, Vasily had shot 179 enemy soldiers and officers, making it one of the best sniper records in the Red Army.

Not all the children who ended up on the frontline were orphans or runaways. Sometimes their parents, when going to the front, took them with them. Thus, in April 1943, fourteen-year-old Arkady Kamanin joined the 5th Assault Aviation Corps commanded by his father. After serving for several months as a flight mechanic and a navigator/observer, he performed his first flight as the pilot of a U-2 aircraft…

If the Red Army had thousands of minors serving in it, the resistance movement had tens of thousands. For youngsters, it was much easier to join the partisans than a military unit, which had to comply with certain regulations and whose commanders could face unpleasant consequences if it became known that they had teenagers on the frontline. [Russia Beyond]
 

Sadly, this mantra must be taught to and learned by young boys/men, especially if they will be/are fighting for the survival of their nation. Or, for themselves - restorative justice and diversity brings local violence, or haven’t you noticed? Christopher Newsom of Knoxville, Tennessee, God rest his soul, would have been better served if he had been reared in accordance with NS youth policies/programs.

All of my siblings are male, and I’m telling you, by the age of 14, they would have made formidable soldiers, if necessary, and not a single one would have preferred to cry - I’m just a boy! - whilst under threat. I don’t understand you people, Avery; you are absolutely clueless on how your learned guilt/ignorance, uninformed reality/history, and rootless hysteria is undermining European civilization.

“axe” trotsky if you don’t believe me)
 

you need a quick lesson in history, poland and hungary weren’t communist during ww2
 

The Polish People's Republic was a unitary communist state established in the country after the Red Army's takeover of Polish territory from German occupation in World War II. Communist control was strengthened through electoral fraud in the 1946 Polish people's referendum and the 1947 Polish parliamentary election.

The Hungarian People's Republic... It was a professed communist state, governed first by the Hungarian Working People's Party and after the Hungarian Revolution of 1956, the Hungarian Socialist Workers' Party. Both governments were closely tied to the Soviet Union as part of the Eastern Bloc.
The state considered itself the heir to the Hungarian Soviet Republic, which was formed in 1919 as one of the first communist states created after the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (Russian SFSR). It was designated a "people's democratic republic" by the Soviet Union in the 1940s.
 

with poland seizing parts of the soviet ukrainian oblast this is why the soviets did the same to poland, when the third reich grabbed the rest.
 

your excusing the german sneak attack on a country with whom they had signed a non aggression pact, who was the only country still selling them oil and trading with them in defiance of the jewish supremacist bds
 

Russia was the only country selling oil to Germany? Russia was the only nation trading with Germany? What about the oil fields of Rumania? The Soviets invaded Bessarabia in June, 1940 - what were the implications of this action with regard to Rumanian oil?

Let’s see -

By 1937, the Third Reich was providing a bigger market for British goods than which existed between any two continents on earth. At the end of the 1930s, with Hitler set to initiate another European war, Britain’s principal trading partner was Nazi Germany. [Preparata, Conjuring Hitler, p. 224]
 

Mannerheim Recording:
Hitler: I then had a discussion ..with Molotov.
 And it was quite clear .. that Molotov would go on with the decision to begin a war and when possible I would prevent him, and make him free of his war…

Because the demands that man placed were quite evidently meant for ultimately dominating Europe!

…And I always had one fear: that Russia would suddenly overtake Romania in the late autumn, and gain the possession of the oil wells.
 And we were not fully prepared in late autumn of 1940. If Russia had occupied the Romanian oil wells, then Germany would have lost the war.
 

look to hitler’s attitude to slavs as untermensch and his plans to expand his country through his lebensraum, after eliminating the slavs whose land he coveted,…that sure sounds like the ashcan nazis seizing palestine by force and attempting to displace the palestinians, whose links to the land extended back further than the illegitimate religious claims of zionist war criminals.
 

2. Germany made a non-aggression pact with Poland which remained in effect until the death of Pilsudski. Poland chose not to renew the treaty. The city of Danzig was comprised of mostly Germans; Hitler tried for years to come to a reasonable agreement with Poles over Danzig and the corridor. Escalating hostilities and violence against the German minority in Poland led to an invasion, which was announced beforehand, and which occurred after Poland mobilized. Poland was then offered peace a few weeks after losing a war they themselves had demanded.

3. Germany did not sneak, manipulate, lie, blackmail, profiteer, bribe, collude, hide behind a greater power to cajole its way into a territory it was unable to acquire, unassisted, for itself. Germany did not betray and assassinate allies. Germany relied upon no other nation to subsidize its existence. Hitler openly proclaimed his true intentions to overturn the mandates of Versailles from the beginning. Hitler did not seek to remove or displace entire nations of Slavs or any other European group from Europe.

4. Considering the mayhem, misery, and death wrought upon the peoples of Russia, Europe, and Germany by the Soviets/Bolsheviks, Hitler was correct in attempting to ausrotten the lot from all of Europe. To the extent territory within Russia/Ukraine was liberated, Germany would have been right to occupy portions of it - there were Germans therein already; same goes for occupying Poland. It’s absolutely ridiculous to assert that Germany wanted to acquire Russia in entirety; that’s an impossibility, even for Germans.

5. Adolf Hitler/Germany stood in opposition to Jewish supremacism, which you seem to think was absent from within the Bolshevik/Communist/Soviet movement. Adolf Hitler/Germany acted in the best interest of Europa. Whether you like it or not, maintaining a Germanic/Nordic/Celtic/Western genetic component in European nations was/is essential to avoid what the MolochPeople have in store for us.

Why was a quest for Lebensraum appropriate for the Soviet Union?

There are no similarities between the objectives and actions of NS Germany and Organized Jewry/Israel.

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Your information is incorrect. I will correct it. When people who do not know history write about another country, they make many mistakes. First check, only then write.

"The Soviet Union signed a neutrality and non-aggression pact with Finland (Treaty of Moscow, March 1940), which they scrupulously adhered to throughout the entire time until Finland’s joining NATO in 2023."

There was no "neutrality and non-aggression pact" in 1940. The peace agreement in Moscow in 1940 did not discuss relations between the countries. It was a peace agreement dictated by the Soviet Union demanding Finland to give up areas (also areas Russians had not occupied). Stalin did not want to make any non-aggression pact with Finland in 1940 as he did not reach the goals in the Winter War and was going to start another war against Finland in coming years (according to German intelligence given to Finland in 1941). This is one reason why Finland joined Hitler in the Continuation War, the second reason was regaining the lost areas. But during the whole Winter War Germany was on the Russian side as the Ribbentrop-Molotov agreement had given Finland to Russia. Hitler forbade all help to Finland from Germany and Italy and German press wrote negatively of Finland.

There was a "friendship and cooperation agreement" (YYA agreement) signed in 1948, after the Continuation War. It was signed with the Soviet Union and therefore become legally void when the Soviet Union disappeared, officially the agreement was terminated 1992. This agreement had a dangerous article that if Finland cannot defend its territory, Soviets will come to help (i.e., Soviet invasion), but the article explicitly mentioned as the threat Germany and countries allied with Germany. There was no Germany during that time, there were two Germanies, so this article was never valid. But Soviets did suggest in the 1960ies that it would be applied. Fortunately this attempt was stopped.

*Even after Finland allowed Nazi Germany to attack Russia through their country (and Finland joined the Nazis in fighting Russia), Russia came to terms with Finland requiring the Finns to expel the Nazis and return to the Treaty of Moscow."

Strong US help to the Communistic Soviet Union led to a Soviet victory. She imposed very hard conditions to Finland including heavy war reparations and giving up land that Russia had not managed to occupy. A part of these conditions was the "friendship and cooperation agreement" of 1948.

"As a result, the Finland/Russia border was open and un-militarized, and Finland profited greatly from trade and exchange with Russia."

This "profiting greatly from trade and exchange with Russia" is a part of official propaganda of that time. This trade was balanced: you had to buy as much as you sold, so Finland could not profit from it. There was very little that Russians had that could be sold in Finland, it was mainly oil and gas, but those could have as well been bought from other countries. Russia did profit from this trade as it got Western goods that it could not otherwise obtain. The border was never un-militarized and the Finnish defense forces were all the time prepared for a Soviet invasion, and it was a real threat all this time.

"Even when Finland pulled a repeat of WW2 and unofficially allied with NATO, Russia still didn’t militarize that border. Only after they joined NATO and allowed USA to operate openly on their territory (flying AWACs along the border spying on Murmasnk, building military bases) did they finally begin the process of building defensive networks along the now-closed border."

The Soviet Union/Russia had bases close to the Finnish border all the time. The Soviet Union/Russia did not consider Finland attacking their country as a realistic threat scenario, and it naturally was not a realistic scenario. Finns did consider a Soviet invasion as a realistic scenario and were prepared for it. It naturally was a realistic scenario. After the Soviet Union collapsed, the threat scenario was a civil war in Russia and refugees coming over the border to Finland. Fortunately it did not happen. Only around 2010 Russia become strong enough in military sense to invade Finland, so during 1992-2010 there was no military threat from Russia, not because of anything Finland did but because Russia military was in a too poor state. Very naturally, Finland or NATO did not use this time to invade Russia. No Western countries have tried to invade Russia after the WWII. The threat is only Putin's propaganda. The threat was all the time Soviet invasion to the West. Recently Russia has increased its military presence on the Finnish border areas, but the troops Russia has there are still not a realistic threat to Finland. As for defense of Russia, these troops are not needed. Russia has enough nukes to make any invasion of Russia a no-go idea.

But maybe you could check some parts of Russian history. Check for instance the Circassian genocide in 1860ies. It was the largest genocide in the 19th century, long before Communists. And it was not so far from Ukraine. Try to understand why countries bordering Russia do not have much faith in that country.

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boy, if that doesn't sound exactly the same as the e.u.kranazi's and their banderite scum, doing the exact same thing, in the exact same situation, readying themselves, to throw their 18 y.o. kids into the russian meat grinder. ukraine will meet the same fate as the third reich on which they model themselves. you can take the ashkenazi out of germany but you can't take the nazi out of ashkenazis.

They drafted — drafted –10s of 1,000s of German boys, some as young as 12, and threw them at the Red Army steamroller
 

How about a little due diligence, Avery? -

Willi Hübner was compelled to tell his story for the cameras: “When the Russians were closing in on Lauban, I reported for voluntary duty as a messenger to the combat commander.
 

Child Soldiers! Avery, clutch your pearls over this universal aspect of Warfare:

*Audie Murphy, the most highly decorated soldier in the history of the US Army, enlisted for combat at the age of 17.

*Leaders of the Zionist Youth Movement…returned to Warsaw… More than 100,000 young Jews participated in resistance youth movements, despite the Germans outlawing such activity.

These leaders led a ghetto resistance…Youth of the Zionist resistance were part of the Armee Juive (Jewish Army) in France, created in 1942, an armed Jewish resistance in Western Europe. They took part in the 1944 uprisings against the Germans in Paris.

Many members of the youth movement, Hashomer Hatzair, fought in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising of 1943. Unlike many other instances of the use of child soldiers, participation of children in this armed resistance is usually regarded positively.

*Sons Of The Regiment Soviet Red Army, World War II:

It was something of a long-standing tradition in the Soviet Red Army to “adopt” orphans into military service, and there have been some estimates indicating that the Soviets allowed 25,000 soldiers aged 6–16 to fight on the front lines of World War II. The duties of the “Sons of the Regiment” were not limited by the soldiers’ age, and there were many instances in which a child soldier would be seen carrying a submachine gun into battle. If they were not fighting in battle, they were used in any way possible to aid the unit to which they belonged, as some took on radio duties while others served as medics or nurses.
 

A crime against their own people.
 

You don’t know what you’re whinging on about, Avery. You need to get a clue, too -

And Mr. Churchill should make an exception and place trust in me when as a profit, I now proclaim: a great world empire will be destroyed. A world empire, which I never had the ambition to destroy or as much as harm. Alas, I am fully aware that the continuation of this war will end only in the complete shattering of one of the two warring parties.

In this hour, I feel compelled standing before my conscience to direct yet another appeal to reason in England… I am speaking in the name of reason. I see no compelling reason which could force the continuation of this war. I regret the sacrifices it will demand, I would like to spare my nation….
[Adolf Hitler]

[…] All of us know how terrible war is. Not one of us is worth more than the men and women who lived in the past…I considered that I owed it to our German people, and the countless men and women in the opposite camps, who as individuals were innocent of blame, to make yet another appeal to common sense, and the conscious of their statesmen. On October 6, 1939, I therefore, once more publicly stated that Germany has neither demanded, nor intended to demand anything, neither from Britain, nor from France… They declared the peace could not come about until the German Reich was destroyed and its [people left destitute]. I did not want this, immediately after the first confrontation, I extended my hand again. I myself was a soldier, and I know what it costs to gain victory. How much blood, misery, despair, deprivation, and sacrifice it takes.
[Adolf Hitler]
 

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although it has been a hard slog because of the serious defences that took a long time to overcome.
 

"This is false. South of the Ukraine was the most fortified region of the world with three lines of heavily fortified lines involving cities in the Donbass. The Ukrainians had been fortifying these cities, like Adeevka, Bakhmut, etc. for eight years. Most of the Ukrainian army was in the south of the Ukraine and the reason Russians moved on Kiev was not so much to take it over but to draw Ukrainian forces out of the south and make their job there easier, although it has been a hard slog because of the serious defences that took a long time to overcome. "

Donbass is not South of Ukraine, it is East. I mean South of Ukraine in 2022. Please, read this reddit discussion to understand that South of Ukraine was not well defended at all:
https://www.reddit.com/r/WarCollege/comments/1km5lnn/why_was_southern_ukraine_so_poorly_defended_in/

As for this claim:
"It is the Ukrainians that are targeting civilians, even during New Year celebrations, but you wouldn’t know it reading the Western press..."

There are videos of Russian drone and missile attacks on civilians in Ukraine and there are videos of Ukraine drone and missile attacks on Russia (on legal military targets). If there were Ukraine attacks on civilians in Russia, there would be reports on them and Ukraine partners would not continue aiding Ukraine.

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I had started to write almost exactly what you have written, but again you beat me to it! Not only factually correct and veritas, but a clear view to the actual.

While nascent Nazism, like AIDS virus or malaria, becomes active sporadically in the West, the authority structures and vested interests exert control over political and governmental processes as the handmaidens of Private Equity and Corporatism. Slavic Russia is guided by and practices pure pragmatism; State-private ownership, State subsidies-enterprenourship, all exist and work interrelatedly and seamlessly. Criteria: no idiotology purity, but WHAT WORKS.

Today, the West blames everything on Russia. It matters not what: political outcomes, economic failures, hemorrhoids, financial crises, cultural shortcomings, burnt toast, etc, etc. And there is the constant projection of the West: Slavic Russians are constantly denigrated as less capable, for those very traits that the West lacks and that creates the modus vivendi, the irony of projecting on The Other that you lack yourself. The Slavic nations never denigrate or publicly trash the Western Northern European Beauty Contest Entrees. They could and would be expected by Western standards, for the over 2 centuries of invasion, animus, and real racism. Russians are always portrayed as criminal gangs, savage instincts, and congenital criminality. Remember James Bond's adversaries? This of course, serves Jewish Cosmopolitanism, as Russia is the bulwark to ZIDSO's Final Push to dominate the World, thus fulfilling Amshel Rothchild prediction to his co-conspirators to pool their money.

These messages worm their way into the sub-couscous of Boobus Americanus, and Boobus Europeeonus. Russia must be destroyed, in order for "Our Democracy" to survive, so that we can live without fear and loathing from what we do not see or understand.

Just ask Carolyn Yeager and Tiptowthruthetwolips. They will tell you the Eternal Truth of Germanic Peoples Divine Superiority Mandate. Slavs to this cohort are **cough cough** the Palestinians to us Germans [Our gods are better than your gods. Yeah, yeah, ayeah}.

An extra-terrestrial traveler arriving at Earth would be astonished at this characterization and coloring. It would be beyond puzzling and wonder when looking at current Germany versus Russia and China. Perhaps these intergalactic travelers might speculate that Earth is actually an asylum planet where Reality is inverted, a huge swath of humanity where hallucination and observable Reality is denied for internal carious thoughts.

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All true. Many cannot see the continuity and parallels of Nazism then and now. As Henry Makow has elucidated, The Left, The Right, Fascism, Communism are all the same coin, just on different sides. They are vehicles for ZIDSO to insert himself into the controls and display of the machinery and make modifications, like MRNA, externally and internally harnessing the natural energy of the organism to siphon off for his own benefit, undeservedly.

hitler hated slavs and saw them as untermensch, to be enslaved, liquidated…
 

pushed off his lebensraum
 

in exactly the same way israeli ashcan nazis see palestinians.
 

according to you, he had to kill 27 million russians to save them from the jewish bolshevists
 

In delivering Russia over to Bolshevism, Fate robbed the Russian people of that intellectual class which had once created the Russian State and were the guarantee of its existence...For centuries Russia owed the source of its livelihood as a State to the Germanic nucleus of its governing class. But this nucleus is now almost wholly broken up and abolished. The Jew has taken its place.
[…]
It must never be forgotten that the present rulers of Russia are blood-stained criminals, that here we have the dregs of humanity which, favoured by the circumstances of a tragic moment, overran a great State, degraded and extirpated millions of educated people out of sheer blood-lust, and that now for nearly ten years they have ruled with such a savage tyranny as was never known before. It must not be forgotten that these rulers belong to a people in whom the most bestial cruelty is allied with a capacity for artful mendacity and believes itself to-day more than ever called to impose its sanguinary despotism on the rest of the world. It must not be forgotten that the international Jew, who is to-day the absolute master of Russia, does not look upon Germany as an ally but as a State condemned to the same doom as Russia.

The menace to which Russia once succumbed is hanging steadily over Germany. Only a bourgeois simpleton could imagine that Bolshevism can be tamed.

Today Germany is the next battlefield for Russian Bolshevism…

The struggle against the Jewish Bolshevization of the world demands that we should declare our position towards Soviet Russia. [Adolf Hitler]
 

the reason he didn’t want to attack europe, was the fact that most rolled over like the cheese eating surrender monkeys in vichy france and marched with him on moscow
 

all forms of exceptionalism are wrong
 

1. thank god for the russian people, 2. that hate you nazi bastards.
 

Replies: @Notsofast

Spare me your indignation, the USSR believed in its own form of exceptionalism enough to impose herself over the entire Baltics and much of Eastern Europe before the launch of Operation Barbarossa. As the vanguard of the communist proletariat they had a right to take territories from Romania, Finland, and the entirety of the Baltics. They had direct involvement in the Spanish Civil War as well as covertly supporting communist subversives in all Western European countries. On the eve of Operation Barbarossa the USSR was preparing an invasion force only to be beat to the punch by Hitler. Germany and her allies put up a fight rather than wait to be steamrolled by the Soviet juggernaut, who can blame them?

After the war the Soviets stacked the bureaucracy of all their satellite states with jews in order to act as a loyal and ruthless fifth column while also supporting the nascent Israeli state with weapons and political support. The soviet state at the pinnacle of her power expertly manipulated racial antagonism with political savvy to ruthlessly pursue her goals. How could anyone but gullible fools see such a state as some moral beacon?

Your analysis is shallow and lazy, it reeks of the overly idealistic projections of past their prime men living vicariously through political fantasies. Fox News, MSNBC, and more recently QAnon cater to impotent old men who regress into adolescent hero worship when confronting the struggles of modern life. Such an attitude is ultimately intellectually stifling and self-defeating, rather than learn and mature from their boyhood fantasies learned from movies and television they simply fall into their modern incarnations.

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