Comparing Chinese printing process with European printing press BEFORE the Industrial Revolution.
European printing press was very time-consuming to operate because heavy platen at the end of the long screw, had to move down by turning a handle that was attached to the screw to press the inked paper and then the screw had to come back up for the next printing.
On th other hand,Chinese printing PROCESS was done by inking the MOVABLE TYPE with horse -hair brush first and then setting the paper firmly over the inked type and sweeping the back of paper with un -inked brush. Then it’s done, printed. It’s very simple and fast and efficient.
So while the Chinese printing PROCESS could print FIVE sheets of paper, the European printing PRESS would be lucky to print ONE sheet of paper. Jesuit missionaries in China said the Chinese printing PROCESS was efficient and had many advantages over the European printing PRESS.
I’ll quote from page 184 of The Eastern Origins Of Western Civilization by John M.Hobson.
“Moreever it is interesting to note that it was ONLY in the 19th century that the European printing press became fastter than it’s Asian counterparts-up until then it (European printing press, emphasis mine) remained a SLOW and EXPENSIVE form of reproducing texts”.
According to professor Thomas Chritensen of Columbia University,
the Jesuit missionary Matteo Ricci noted in the early seventeenth century that Chinese cutter could produce wood blocks as quickly as European typesetters could make up their pages.
What’s more, the woodblocks could be stored for LATER use, unlike the printers’ forms used in the West, which were disassembled and the type returned to its cases when the printing had been completed.
Woodblock technology also facilitated book illustration, which was far more advanced, and more common, in China than in the the West.
I’ll quote from page 126 of The Genius of China by Robert Temple.
For MOVABLE TYPE printing, Chinese used “a wheel- shaped rotating case for the classified storage of fonts of movable type. all the characters are cast into metal fonts and stored according to their rhyming spoken sounds, in 24 compartments, consisting of 8 inner ones and 16 outer ones. BY spinning the compositor’s wheel around, the pieces of type were accessed according to this
EASY system for making SPEEDY typesetting”.
This what Wikipedis says aout Eropean printing press “At the dawn of the Industrial Revolution, the mechanics of the hand-operated Gutenberg-style press were still essentially UNCHANGED, although new materials in its construction, amongst other innovations, had gradually improved its printing efficiency.”
So even BEFORE the Industrial Revolution, the printing press was SLOW and LABOR-intensive, with speed and scalability improving ONLY gradually after Gutenberg’s invention.
The Jesuits in China were right, the Chinese printing system was much more efficient than the European printing press BEFORE the Industrial Revolution.
But Industrial Revolution changed all that. With the coming of the STEAM-POWERED printing press in the 19th century, the European printing press was finally more efficient than the Chinese printing process.
Comparing Han Dynasty to ancient Roman Empire is more like comparing America to Brazil in our times, the Han Dynaty being America and Rome being Brazil. I’m being very generous here in my comparison.
Han Dynasty and Roman Empire were roughly compariable in population and the size of territory, But Han Dynasty could produce a lot MORE grain than the Romans due to it’s superior agricultural technology and it means Han Dynasty could raise a lot more troops armed than the Romans could.
Also Han Dynasty had far superior technology and bureacracy than the Roman Empire did.
Also Romans never built any thing like the world -famous Dujiangyan irrigation and flood control system that China built in the 3rd century BC that is still used for the same purpose.
There are a lot more of great ancient Chinese civil engenering achievements. besides Qing Great Wall or Han Great Wall.
There is a huge difference between ancient Chinese and Greeks and Romans
The ancient Chiese created their own ORIGINAL civilization WITHOUT borrowing from outsiders.
On the other hand, ancient Greeks created a basically COPY-CAT civilization and Romans in turn copied from the Greeks.
The Greeks were the BIGGEST COPYCATS in the ancient world.
The Greek civilization was heavily influenced by both Egyptian and Mesopotamian civilizations ( Greek myths and religion had their roots in various Mesopotamian and Egyptian beliefs).. The Greek ARCHETECTURE was adopted from Egypt.
The following information can be found by reading about Babylonia in Wikipedia.
Ancient Greeks extensively COPIED Babylonians ( the ancestors of the present day Arabs) for it’s astronomy, mathematics, philosophy, medicine, etc.
For example, such Greek astronomers and mathematicians as Hipparchus. Ptolemy were greatly influenced by PREVIOUS Babylonian studies.
The Babylonian text, Dialogue of Pessimism written in about 1000 BC, CONTAINS similarities to the agnostic thought of the Greek sophists, the Heraclitean doctrine of contrasts, and the dialogs of Plato, as well as a precursor to maieutic Socratic method of Socrates (born 470 BC).
Also Milesian philosopher Thales studied philosophy in Mesopotamia.
The early treatises of the Hippocratic Corpus show the INFLUENCE of Babylonian medicine in terms of both content and form.
Even Greek alphabet was based on the NON- European Semitic Phoenician alphabet.
On the other hand, unlike Greeks, the ancient Chinese ORIGINALLY developed their astronomy, mathematics, philosophy, medicine, ON THEIR OWN without BORROWING from OUTSIDERS.
During this ancient time period, there were a lot of ORIGINAL Chinese thinkers such as Confucius, Laozi, Mozi, Zhangzi, Mencius, Sun Tsu, etc who created Confucianism, Taoism, Mohism, The Art of War,etc.
In agricultral technology,ancient Chinese were far ahead of Romans.
For example, the Roman plows both light “aratrum” and the wheeled plows were poorly designed and inefficient.
The aratrum was only effective in lighter soils but struggled in heavier, clay-rich soils, which were common in many regions
And the Roman wheeled- plows were very inefficient in rocky or muddy or uneven terrain.
On the other hand, China already developed iron plow in the 6th century BC when Greeks had MOSTLY wooden plows and in the 3rd centyry BC China invented a mellable (non-brittle) cast iron plow and also in around the 2nd century BC, China developed a plow with curved mouldboard.
Mouldboards were not known in Europe until the Middle Ages.
So unlike the light Roman plows, the advanced heavier Chinese cast iron plows with curved-moulboard can work in all kinds of soils.
Roman farmers scattered seeds by hand so that many of the seeds would be blown away by winds or eaten by birds and many times unevenly distributed over the soil.
On the other hand, China invented the multi-tube (modern) seed drill in the 2nd century BC that could be pulled by oxen or horse , dribbles the seed at controlled rate into a straight row.
Europe got a very inefficient single-tube seed drill only in the 16th century.
From the ancient times, China practiced row cultivation of crops and horse-drawn intense hoeing but Europe only got this know-how in the early i8tn country. Also in the Roman times, Chinese horse harnesses were a lot better than Roman ones.
I want to mention one more thing about Chinese and Roman plows.
Ancient Chinese plows had DEPTH-ADJUSTING mechanism that precisely regulated the plowing depth by altering the distance between the blade and the beam
On the other hand, Roman farmers could adjust the depth of furrow by leaning more or less HEAVILY on the beam of plow that was extremely physically tiring and Europeans got the depth-adjusting plow mechanism only AFTER the Middle Ages.
Romans used THROAT-and girth-harness that severely CHOCKED the horse.
But China used the trace harness, with it’s breast strap since the 4th cntury BC.
The horse could exert itself with this harness since the pressure is on the chest bone rather than the throat. The load is borne by the skeletal system rather than it’s WINDPIPE.
Also BEFORE the 1st century BC, China invented the most advanced harness, namely the horse collar (modern horse collar). A horse equiped with Chinese trace harness or horse collar could pull 10 times more loads than a Roman horse with the THROAT-and -girth harness.
You can find all this information in The Genius of China by Robert Temple.
Also according to S.A.M. Adshead, a respected Sinologist, ancient Chinese grain yields were 8 times bigger than those of Roman Empire
Comparing Roman aqueduct with ancient Chinese aqueduct.
Both Roman and ancient Chinese aqueducts relied heavily on gravity, utilizing extensive networks of tunnels, channels and bridges with arches distributing weight evenly.
In building aqueducts, Romans mainly used stone, brick, concrete and Chinese used stone, brick, concrete,rammed earth.
For piping, Romans mostly used LEAD, earthenware,wood (mostly pine).
Chinese used waterproof stoneware, earthenware, bamboo tube.
Throughout the course of an aqeduct, both Romans and Chinese stationed layers of sand and gravel as natural filters at intervals to purify water.
But unlike Roman aqueducts whose main purpose was supplying drinking water to urban dwellers,the ancient Chinese aqueduct sysiem not only supplied drinking water to city people but also incorporated irigation canals to supply water to agricultral areas.
Also at the terminal station of an aqueduct, ancient Chinese used ALUM to purufy the water again.
The Romans didn’t use any chemicals to purify their aqueduct water at the terminal stations.
Also ancient Chinese medical texts state that LEAD is bad for health and that’s why they DIDN’T use LEAD pipes.
On the other hand, Romans DIDN’T know LEAD is had for their health. That’s why Romans unknowingly used LEAD pipes for aqueducts.
When all is said and done, Chinese aqueduct water was much safer to drink than that of Roman aqueduct also unlike Roman aqueducts that served only city people,Chinese aqueducts supplied not only drinking water to city people but also irrigation water to farmers in rular areas.
Comparing the ancient Chinese roads to the Roman roads.
You can find the following information on pages 1-2 of The Shorter Sciencee and Civilization in China:3 by Colin A. Ronan.
The ancient Romans used stones to build their roads. But the Roman roads had big problems in the summer and the winter because in the summer when the temperature was hot, the ground below the layer of roadstones will EXPAND while the roadstones themselves did not expand thus creating wide spaces between the roadstones.
On the other hand, in the winter, the ground under the stones will CONTRACT thus making the roadstones colliding with each other so that it was very hard to travel on them in the summer and the winter.
Starting in about the 9th century BC, ancient China built so-called WATER-BOUND macadam roads. that were more like modern asphalt gravet roads in some rural areas and they were thinner and more elastic because they were built with a rubble sub-base onto which a layer of finely tamped gravel was added to produce a ‘water- bound macadam (water mixed with light brown soil (loess) that had CEMENTING qualities, was sprayed on the surface of the gravel road as a binding agent)..
These Chinese macadam roads could EXPAND in the summer and CONTRACT in the winter with the GROUND below them so that these smooth gravel roads could stay intact regardless of temperature changes.. Europe only got their own macadam roads in the 19th century.
That’s about 2800 years after China got it’s own macadam roads !!! This time lag is NO exaggeration.
Ancient China was much more advanced in TECHNOLOGY than either Greeks or Romans.
China aready had the technology to MELT iron ore to make cast iron in the 5th centuty BC but Europe only got the cast iron technology in the 12th century. The time lag is 1700 years !!!
China could produce steel from cast iron aka Bessemer steel process in thr 2nd century BC, But Europe got Bessemer process ONLY in the 19th century. The time lag is more han 2000 years !!!
For the transmission of Besemer steel process to America from China, read Wiliam Kelley (engineer) in Wikipedia.
China also produced co-fusion steel process by combining cast iron and wrought iron aka Siemens-Martin steel prucess but Europe got this process ONLY in the 19th century.
China invented the compass in the 4th century BC but Europe only got the compass in the 12th century,
In ceramics.Greeks and Roman s ONLY used NON-WATERPROOF earthenware but China already had the 100% WATERPROOF stoneware in the 13th century BC .Europe ONLY got the stoneware in the 17th century.
China also invented the porcelain in the 1st century BC but Europe only could poroduce the porcelain in the 18th century.
In textiles. Greeks and Romans could only use simple and time-consumimg relatively primitive VERTICAL WARP-WEIGHED LOOM but China already invented very sophisticated DRAWLOOM in the 4th century BC. but Europe got the drawloom only in the 12th century.
Also in the 2nd century BC, Chinese developed more advanced Jacquard loom that was operated on BINARY PROGRAMMABLE systen based on numbers 0 and 1. This sophisticated loom technology was also transmitted to Italy in the 15th century.
Very recently this Chinese loom is considered world’s FIRST computer by many scholars and exports because it used the software called pattern cards just like the punch cards of the modern computer based on binary programming. This Chinese loom cum binary ( digital) “computer” is MORE advanced than the Greek Antikythera device that is supposed to be LESS advanced analog “computer”, was invented a few decades or even centuries LATER than the Chinse “computer”.
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In shipbuilding, China invented the RUDDER in the firsst century AD. But Europe got the rudder ONLY in the 12th century.
China developed multiple -mast system (more than 3 masts) in the 2nd century AD but Europe only got the multiple- mast system only in the 14th century.
China developed advanced lug sail in th 3rd century but Europe got it only in the late 15th century.
China also invented BLOCKHEAD WATERTIGHT COMPARTMENTS in the 2nd cemtury AD but Europe only got watertight compartments ONLY in the LATE 18th century.
China also invented PAPER in the 1st century BC but Eueopeans could only produce paper ONLY in the 12th century.
China also drilled for NATURAL GAS in the 4th century BC. At this time, China transmitted NATURAL GAS through bamboo PIPELINES for heating and lighting,
Europe started using natural gas ONLY in the 19th century
Also China invented DEEP-DRILLING for OIL in the 1st centyry BC but Europe started for deep-drilling for oil ONLY in the 19th century AFTER it got the technology from China.
You will find all this information in The Genius of China by Robert Temple, The Shorter Science and Civilization in China:3 by Colin A.Ronan, List of Chinese Inventions in Wikipedia
Han Dynasty military was more powerful than that of Roman Empire. According to Ralph D. Sawyer, a well-respected expert on ancient Chinese military, states that ancient Chinese military science was light years ahead of Western practicies.
When Greeks were struggling to escape the confining nature of PHALANX and it’s single tactic of mass collision, China had already perfected numerous formations and methods of tactical deployment and strategies written in Art of The War by Sun Tsu in the 5th century BC.
Also Han Dynasty had the weapons that Romans didn’t have such as powerful crossbows,
recurved bows. On the other hand, as range weapons, Romans had relatively weak longbows, slngshots. javelins.
The arrows from the powerful Chinese crossbows and recurved bows would have no problem penetrating the Roman legianaires’shields and armor in the testudo formations. We should remember that Parthian horseback archers with recurved bows decimated the Roman legionaires in 53 BC in the Battle of Carrhae.
Also due to the fact that Han Dynasty had superior metallurgical technology, it produced better weapons than Romans.
According to Joseph Needham, the renowned Sinologist,China invented the trebuchet in the 4th century BC that could trow heavier stones at longer distances than Roman catapult.could.
Also Roman cavalry was handicaped due to the fact that it’s use of THROAT -and-girth harrness that CHOCKED the horse so that Roman cavalry horses couldn’t gallop while Han Dynasty cavalry horses that were equipped with TRACE HARNESS could gallop.
So in a battle against Han troops, Roman legionaires would be overwhelmed by the barrages of arrows from powerful Han Chinese crossbows and recurved bows and after that Han cavalry would mop up the remaining Roman troops.
You said”Rome didn’t have this need, they had the brains” . No man , Romans had slaves but no brains. All the hard work was done by slaves so that they didn’t have urgent need to innovate.
Ancient Chinese had used cement about 5000 years ago long before Romans did
You said “their architecture was unmatched in its sophistication, their weapons were extremely sophisticated because a need had developed for all these things.ur their architecture was unmatched in its sophistication, their weapons were extremely sophisticated because a need had developed for all these things.”
You are talking nonsense here. Romans never built anything like the original Qin Great Wall or Han Great Wall that extended the original Qin Great Wall to about 6000 miles more than 2000 years ago. On the other hand, Romans built only the pitiful 70 mile- long Hadrian’s Wall. lol !!!
Also the Mayan Indians in the central America in the same time period built much more massive and beauriful STONE buildings than Romans did.
Also Roman weapons were pitiful compared to Han Chinese weapons. Han troops used powerful crossbows and RECURVED bows that could have decimated poorly armed the Roman legionaires who didn’t have either powerful crossbows or RECURVED bows.
You said” Isn’t China’s sophisticated bureaucracy what put it to sleep for 1000 years?
Now you are really showing true ignorance.
China have had always sophicated bureacracy based on merit throughout the history that still plays the utmost important role in the modern China’s governance. Europeans adopted the merit-based Chinese- style bureacracy only in the 19th or 20th century.
For your information, from ancient times to the Industrial Revolution, China was way ahead of Europe, especially in technology. Also in the same time peridd, China and India were two biggest economies in the world.
Now China is in process of being the technology and economic superpower again as it usedt be.
According to Anthony Francois Paulus Hulsewe, a prominent Dutch expert on ancient Chinese law, Han dynasty had a sophisticated law code that had more than 26,000 articles written in about 7,700,000 words that clearly outlined punishments. and there were about 500 articles on the death penalty alone which included almost 1,900 offenses and about 3,500 pieces of case law.
Also according to Science and Civilization in China volume 6 part 4 by Joseph Needham and Nathan Sivin,
ancient Chinese courts practiced forensic medicine from at the latest 3rd century BC long before the West ( although Hippocratic corpus mentioned forensic science, there is no record of ancient Greek courts’ having practiced it).
According to Angus Maddison a well- respected economic historian, Han dynasty had a bigger economy than the Roman Empire also the preeminent Sinologist, Joseph Needham stated that Han dynasty had been wealhier than Roma Empire.
Also Han Dynasty was far MORE advanced in TECHNOLOGY than Roman Empire.
I’m going to paraphrase and quote from THE ART OF THE STATE by Christopher Hood, a prominent British scholar specializing in analysis of various government systems to prove that Chinese Han Dynasty had MUCH MORE SOPHISTICATED breaucracy than Roman Empire did.
“According to Max Weber a great social scientist, a MODERN state MUST have the FULLY formed MODERN BUREAUCRACY that clearly establishes official duties, elaborate rules governing the exercise of authority, continuous and regular performance of tasks by staff appointed on the regulated qualifications”. “Han Dynasty of more than 2000 years AGO that had much MORE complex and SOPHISTICATED bureaucracy THAN the IMPERIAL Rome, met Weber’s criterion for the modern state”.
“Starting from the middle of the 2nd century BC, Han Dynasty implemented the CIVIL SERVICE examination that was rooted in winnowing-down MERITOCRATIC system. It’s officials operated under clearly defined duties and rules. For CHECKS and BALANCES, Han dynasty had the institutional system that EVEN APPLIED to the EMPEROR. The dynasty had an OFFICE of INSPECTOR GENERAL that had “the power to IMPEACH officials, inspect their efficiency and integrity and criticize the policies of topmost officials or EVEN of the emperor”
So we can say Han Dynasty had been a MODERN state LONG before any Western country became one.
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My dumb little MAGA troll
Be careful, dumb little MAGA blockhead. I might give you away to your favorite jungle bunny, lol!!!
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Said our little red troll looking at the mirror and wondering how one wooden block is completely different from another wooden block :) :) :)Replies: @tamo
The only thing you are good at is making a fool of yourself, lol !!!
My dumb little MAGA troll can not even tell the difference between wooden PRINING block and plain NON-PRINING wooden block. What a shame, lol !!!
You have your own MAGA trolls? Really? :)
My dumb little MAGA troll
Replace your chinesium translator into something better and you'll find out. It's not that difficult.Replies: @tamo
“14th century but BC”
Replace your BS-filled little brain, think normally then you might be less stupid, lol !!!!
Not information - just making fun of you. I think that's even better. Or worse - for you :)Replies: @tamo
So you got the information from the shithead
The only thing you are good at is making a fool of yourself, lol !!!
Said our little red troll looking at the mirror and wondering how one wooden block is completely different from another wooden block :) :) :)Replies: @tamo
The only thing you are good at is making a fool of yourself, lol !!!
You said “But the printed textiles shown there date back all the way to 14th century but BC”
What’s “14th century but BC” ?
I have a problem you saiyng in post #177 ” the chinese wooden printing blocks were EXTREMELY SIMILAR to Egyptian ones from 2k years earlier”
You have NOT back it up with credible source YET. So back it up without changing the subject.
Replace your chinesium translator into something better and you'll find out. It's not that difficult.Replies: @tamo
“14th century but BC”
According to History of Information
http://www.historyofinformation.com › detail
The Egyptian wood-block prints that are shown at British Museum displays are typically dated to the mid-14th century AD, with specimens excavated at Faiyum and believed to originate around the 1300s. That places them roughly 650–700 years old.
According to lockwoodonlinejorum; Gliding Textiles and Printing Blocks in Ten Century Egypt
Current evidence places the APPERANCE of wooden block printing in Egypt around the 10th century AD.
So your assertion that the Chinese wooden printing blocks were EXTREMELY SIMILAR to Egyptian ones from 2000 years EARLIER ,is very WRONG because in that time period, Egypt didn’t have printing wooden blocks in view of that China invented wood block printing in about 220 AD.
JPS? oh, I remember the imbecile who knows nothing about the pre-modern Chinese technology but loves spewing a lot of garbage out of his big mouth. So you got the information from the shithead, LOL !!!
I’ll quote from page 184 of The Eastern Origins Of Western Civilization by John M.Hobson.
“Moreever it is interesting to note that it was only in the 19th century that the European printing press became fastter than it’s Asian counterparts-up until then it (European printing press, emphasis mine) remained a SLOW and EXPENSIVE form of reproducing texts”.
Not information - just making fun of you. I think that's even better. Or worse - for you :)Replies: @tamo
So you got the information from the shithead
A simple problem for you: if they were so extremely similar, how come Gutenberg's was 50-60 times faster? :)Replies: @tamo
“EXTREMELY SIMILAR to Gutenberg’s.
You said “A simple problem for you: if they were so extremely similar, how come Gutenberg’s was 50-60 times faster?”
You are full of nonsense here.It’s more likely the other way around. I’ll explain to you. So you pay attention.
The printing expert Henry-Jean Martin said the Chinese-Korean MOVABLE TYPE was EXTREMELY SIMILIAR to Gutenberg’s MOVABLE TYPE that was built about 70 years LATER.
So both MOVABLE TYPES were extremely similar. But the difference was that Gutenberg’s movable type was paired with a PRESS while Chinese movable type was NOT paired a PRESS.
Gutenberg’s printing PRESS was very cumbersome and inefficient due to it’s PRESS.
Gutenberg used old Roman-style WINE-PRESS for his printing PRESS. It was very time-consuming to operate because heavy platen at the end of the long screw, had to move down by turning a handle that was attached to the screw to press the inked paper and then the screw had to come back up for the next printing.
Gutenberg’s so -called mechanized printing PRESS was composed of MOVABLE TYPE and PRESS.. The most important part of Gutenberg’s printing press was the MOVABLE TYPE , NOT the PRESS..
Chinese printing PROCESS of inking the MOVABLE TYPE with horse -hair brush first and then set the paper firmly over the inked type and sweep the back of paper with un -inked brush then it’s done, printed. It’s a very simple and fast but efficient.
Compared to the Chinese printing PROCESS , Gutenberg’s printing PRESS was very time-consuming process. While the Chinese printing PROCESS could print 5 sheets of paper, the Gutenberg’s printing PRESS would be lucky to print 1 sheet of paper. Jesuit missionaries in China said the Chinese printing PROCESS had many advantages over the Gutenberg’s printing PRESS
But the Industrial Revolution changed all that. With the coming of the STEAM-POWERED printing PRESS in the 19th century, the European printing PRESS was finally more efficient than the Chinese printing PROCESS.
This is the best summary of your knowledge and claims :) Nuff said :)
According to AI summary
Let’s get one thing straight. I get most of my information by reading books and journals, newspapers etc.
But sometimes I go online to find information, they provide AI summary FIRST AUTOMATICALLY without me asking for it so that I don’t even know which AI model they use
You said ” the chinese wooden printing blocks were EXTREMELY SIMILAR to Egyptian ones from 2k years earlier”
That’s pure bullshit. Because wooden BLOCKS in ANCIENT Egypt appear mainly in sculpture rather than large-scale construction blocks, with wood used for block-style statues and other wooden works NOT for printing.
So you still believe the Chinese wooden printing blocks were EXTREMELY SIMILAR to Egyptian ones from 2k years earlier, then show me this is true by listing credible source.
You were not missed!
I was gone for about 45 days.
and why should I? LOL!!!
But I can see you have not changed a bit.
and you're still the same moron from Chinkland! LOL!!
You are still the same moron from the Honkieland, LOL !!!
You are nothing but a dumb idiot living in the collapsing Honkieland led by the stupid ,MAGA wrecking balls.
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Your wishful thinking is not a demonstration.
Gutenberg was therefore extremely unlikely to have been ignorant of the Chinese technology.
Still waiting for that evidence: all you need to do is show us that Gutenberg had access to any such chinese technology. Instead of yapping about evrything just to change the topic.
What I have on my side is evidence.
I think you apply selective memory so that you don’t want to remember the things you don’t like. So I will repeat what I said before one more time for your benefit.
According to Henri-Jean Martin (16 January 1924 – 13 January 2007) who was a leading authority on the history of the book in Europe, and an expert on the history of writing and PRINTING, the Korean METAL movable type of 1377 ( about 70 years BEFORE Gutenberg developed metal movable type) that in turn, had been based on older Chinese METAL movable type, was described as “EXTREMELY SIMILAR to Gutenberg’s.
Also you should remember that in the Middle Ages, there were a lot of trades between China and Europe thru the silk roads.
So the chances of Gutenberg independently inventing movable type 400 years AFTER Chinese invented first, are SLIM to NONE..
OF ALL PRIZES, he was awarded in 1998 the Gutenberg Prize of the International Gutenberg Society and the City of Mainz for OUTSTANDING artistic, technical and scientific ACHIVEMENTS in the FIELD of PRINTING.
Do you really think if the Gutenberg Society had thought Henri-Jean Martin’s statement that the 1377 Korean METAL movable type based on older Chinese METAL movable type, was EXTREMELY SIMILAR to Gutenberg’s movable type that was developed more than 70 years LATER, was not true, would have given him the prize?
So think about it, you little honkie.
A simple problem for you: if they were so extremely similar, how come Gutenberg's was 50-60 times faster? :)Replies: @tamo
“EXTREMELY SIMILAR to Gutenberg’s.
And the chinese wooden printing blocks were EXTREMELY SIMILAR to Egyptian ones from 2k years earlier :)
was EXTREMELY SIMILAR to Gutenberg’s movable type
You lying little Honkie said “And the chinese wooden printing blocks were EXTREMELY SIMILAR to Egyptian ones from 2k years earlier”
According to AI summary,Wooden blocks in ancient Egypt appear mainly in sculpture rather than large-scale construction blocks, with wood used for block-style statues and other wooden works NOT for printing
But Egyptian wooden blocks wre used for PRINTING ONLY in the 10th century AD, notably for decorating textiles and later in other printed patterns during the MEDIAVALperiod.
For your information,woodblock printing is a traditional technique using carved wooden blocks to transfer ink onto fabric or paper, also ORIGINATED from China BEFORE 220 AD.
You said “I am really glad that you are pointing out that even Koreans were better than the Chinese in printing technology ”
Again you devious pollock skipped the part in which I said ” the 1377 Korean METAL movable type based on older Chinese METAL movable type,”
No wonder you dumb pollocks are at the bottom of european honkie hierarchy, LOL !!!
This is the best summary of your knowledge and claims :) Nuff said :)
According to AI summary
Unlike the Greek Antikythrea Mechanism built in around the 1st century BC that was supposed to be a less advanced analog computer, the Chinese loom Ti Hua Ji was a more advanced binarary therfore digital computer just like the modern computer.
Also Jacquard loom was used extensively in Chinese Han Dynasty (202 BC- 220 AD ) and Jacquard loom technology was transmitted to Italy in the 15th century. Jacquard loom is considered a precursor of the modern computer.
The World’s EARLIST computer was made in ancient China.
On 2nd Jan 2026, many news and social media such as South China Morning Post, Bang Kok Post, Interssting Engineering, RedHot Cyber,etc had big headlines claiming that world’s first computer was invented in China OVER 2000 years ago in about the 2nd century BC.
The prograamable computer based on binary code of 0 and 1 was in the form of figure loom called Ti Hua Ji built around the 2nd century BC in the Western Han Dynasty.
Ti Hua Ji loom was the computer hardware and it had “pattern card”(software) just like the modern punch card.
Here is AI summary:
” The ancient Chinese Ti Huo Ji (ti hua ji) loom, over 2,000 years old, is being discussed as a potential candidate for the world’s first computer due to features interpreted as programmable, binary-like logic.
In recent coverage, China’s science authorities and several outlets describe the Western Han dynasty loom as having programmable, modular elements that readers compare to early computing concepts, which has sparked debate about what counts as the first computer.
The claim is contested and sits alongside other ancient computing candidates such as Antikythera devices and Jacquard looms, depending on how “computer” is defined. For context, sources note the loom’s alleged binary-like programming and multiple modules dating back to around 150–200 BCE.”
Unlike the Greek Antikythrea Mechanism built in around 1st century BC that is supposd to be less advanced analog computer, the ancient Chinese loom is a more advanced binary therefore digital computer just like the modern computer.
Also China used so-called Jacquard loom in Han Dynasty (202 BC-220 AD)that is a preccursor of the modern computer.
The Chinese Jacquard loom technology was transmitted to Italy \ via Persia in about the 15th century.century AD.
Instead you get an incompetent like XIt stain. A middle educated fool who was granted a university degree after "participating" in Chinkland edumacation system. LOL!!!
You won’t get an incompetent clown like Trump or BoJo in the Chinese system.
You forgot to mention that she is AGAINST everything that America stands for. Christianity, free speech, gun ownership and of course ... elections. ROTFLMAO!!!!!Replies: @anonymous, @Torna atrás, @Torna atrás, @tamo
Or a US puppet like Mertz or von der Leyen – sorry, I forgot for a moment that von der Leyen wasn’t even elected.
I was gone for about 45 days. But I can see you have not changed a bit.
You are still the same moron from the Honkieland, LOL !!!
You were not missed!
I was gone for about 45 days.
and why should I? LOL!!!
But I can see you have not changed a bit.
and you're still the same moron from Chinkland! LOL!!
You are still the same moron from the Honkieland, LOL !!!
Of course. And it goes without any doubt that Gutenberg's invention was one of those.
There are inventions all over the world that sprung up without one civilization knowing that the other had it.
According to Henri-Jean Martin (16 January 1924 – 13 January 2007) who was a leading authority on the history of the book in Europe, and an expert on the history of writing and PRINTING, the Korean METAL movable type of 1377 ( about 70 years BEFORE Gutenberg developed metal movable type) that in turn, had been based on older Chinese METAL movable type, was described as “EXTREMELY SIMILAR to Gutenberg’s.
Also you should remember that in the Middle Ages, there were a lot of trades between China and Europe thru the silk roads.
So the chances of Gutenberg independently inventing movable type 400 years AFTER Chinese invented first, are slim to none.
Henri-Jean Martin was not an ordinary scholar when it came to printing and books.
I’ll quote from Wikipedia “Henri-Jean Martin (16 January 1924 – 13 January 2007) was a leading authority on the history of the book in Europe, and an expert on the history of writing and PRINTING (emphasis mine). He was a leader in efforts to promote libraries in France, and the history of libraries and PRINTING (emphasis mine).”.
OF ALL PRIZES, he was awarded in 1998 the Gutenberg Prize of the International Gutenberg Society and the City of Mainz for OUTSTANDING artistic, technical and scientific ACHIVEMENTS in the FIELD of PRINTING.
Do you really think if the Gutenberg Society had thought Henri-Jean Martin’s statement that the 1377 Korean METAL movable type based on older Chinese METAL movable type, was EXTREMELY SIMILAR to Gutenberg’s movable type that was developed more than 70 years LATER, was not true, would have given him the prize?
I’m sorry I burst your bubble, little white boy.
And the chinese wooden printing blocks were EXTREMELY SIMILAR to Egyptian ones from 2k years earlier :)
was EXTREMELY SIMILAR to Gutenberg’s movable type
I prefer to view any RE price drop as an expected outcome of having 30 million or more deportables getting deported.
Home values have DROPPED in many areas, with MORE than half of US homes LOSING value this year. This DOWNTURN is attributed to a combination of HIGH prices and ECONOMIC factors that have STALLED sales.
“I prefer to view any RE price drop as an expected outcome of having 30 million or more deportables getting deported”.
Acccording to your nanny, Kristi Noem, only 2 million of the illegals have been deported so far.
So drumph has a long way to go. Tell your boss to save a run-down mobile home for you. LOL!!!
Call me “your lordship”, LOL !!!
Chinese cities are just large human ant mounds with stolen Western architecture.
Let’s take a look at your Honkielander real estate situation.
AI Summary
The US real estate market is currently FACING significant challenges. Recent reports indicate that many homes are either STALE on the market or UNINHABITABLE, leading to a surplus of inventory that doesn’t feel sufficient.
Home values have DROPPED in many areas, with MORE than half of US homes LOSING value this year. This DOWNTURN is attributed to a combination of HIGH prices and ECONOMIC factors that have STALLED sales.
Things like these should NOT bother you because you are already homeless, LOL !!!
I prefer to view any RE price drop as an expected outcome of having 30 million or more deportables getting deported.
Home values have DROPPED in many areas, with MORE than half of US homes LOSING value this year. This DOWNTURN is attributed to a combination of HIGH prices and ECONOMIC factors that have STALLED sales.
Honkie boy, you are describing your collapsing Honkieland very well. Your boss drumph the wrecker has done a wonderful job and pretty soon you will be jobless and homeless, LOL !!!
LolAnd nothing is said about the Jew controlled West transporting its manufacturing base & technology to China over the past 50 years to make all this possible. Without white man technology (i.e. electricity, computers etc) chinaman, just like africans & latinos would still be living in low tech primitive retard wog world.Replies: @Deep Thought
Lots have been said about China's rise in manufacturing, technology & science
And nothing is said about the Jew controlled West transporting its manufacturing base & technology to China over the past 50 years to make all this possible.
It was Non-whites’ technologies that made whites’ technology possible in the first place.
One critical example: Without the Chinese inventions of gun-powder and the gun, whites could NEVER expanded into the Non-white world that you are living in today!
Not how I remember it ... and not how these guys remember it either. LOL!!!
You never get anything right.
1) China eased buying from Australia because Australia obeyed the U.S. and banned Huawei.
Hey dumb Honkie,when all is sad done, it was much-hurting Australia that had to make the first move by asking China to normalize the trade relationship between the two countries.
Also it was your devious Honkieland that put the Baltic chihuahua up to it.
The Chink Commies originally stopped buying Australian coal because Australia made a stink about getting to the source of the Wuhan Flu. They also stopped buying everything else Australian as well.
And Australia has coal in abundance – even more so than in prior years, seeing as China has been buying less.
That’s due to Australia’s senseless provocations in the South China Sea with Navy warships (in its capacity as a slavish vassal of the Anglo-Zionist empire).
Hey dumb MAGA Honkie, tell your boss drumph, get rid of the stupid tariffs on Brazilian coffee and orange juice. so that POOR Americans CAN at least have their meager breakfast without worrying about drumph-forced price hikes.
He pulled that one out of his ass.
“And, once again, EVERY authority responsible states EMPHATICALLY that solar and wind are the cheapest forms of electricity.”
He means every "bribeable" authority.
Every “authority responsible” – what the hell is that supposed to mean? Apparently your command of basic grammar leaves a lot to be desired.
Again: He pulled that out of his ass. With a side order of drumming up demand for Chinlander sourced parts. Their solar panel industry is dying from overcapacity. LOL!!!and that is why the quote is so smelly and stinky. LOL!!!!!!But hey! Gotta earn that 50 cents in Chinklander money somehow .... around 7 cents US.Replies: @tamo
Solar and wind being the “cheapest forms” of electricity? Where did you get your information? From the concerns importing components into the USA from CHINA to make wind and solar economical?
How many cents do the MAGA boys of Honkieland pay you for your idiotic comments ?
None, probably FINE your ass big time for being so stupid, lol !!!
Don't know! Can you tell me??? ROTFLMAO!!!!!
Hey stupid Honkie, tell me how many Honkielander F-35s crashed in the last 12 months.
Like I said! Trafficking in human remains is illegal in the US! LOL!!
According to Yahoo News, “A Minnesota tattoo artist and human REMAINS aficionado was sentenced to 15 months in prison for adding the stolen CORPSE of a stillborn BABY boy to his collection”
Not as sick as the 100 Childless Days
This really is a SICKO Honkie in your PERVERTED Honkieland, LOL !!!
Hey, what you said had happened more than 30 years ago. But what I said is happening right in the U.S.A.
But it is functioning! Just at a subpar level.
Taking a non functioning asset is not recovery.
Since you either didn't know... or forgot ... trafficking in human parts is illegal in the US ... unlike in Chinkland!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!
Next time your loan payment to your bank comes up. Try giving them your brain in repayment. It is non functioning, so they bank certainly won’t consider it “repayment”.
Yes it was! The fact that it could still borrow to pay its bills does not mean it was not in financial trouble. LOL!!!
No they didn’t. Sri Lanka wasn’t in financial trouble yet.
Yeah! Sure!!! You expect me to believe European banks took sloppy seconds after China? Not happening!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!
It was only after they took huge loans from the West that they got into trouble. Go read the article yourself.
So is this crash video a fake too??? ROTFLMAO!!!
Yeah, your Falungong propaganda videos.
Are you sure that Uyghur is actually an Uyghur. Because he looks like a white dude working a "White Monkey" job for the Chinese.
You are like this Spanish dude telling an Uyghur how oppressed he is.
Hey stupid Honkie, tell me how many Honkielander F-35s crashed in the last 12 months.
According to Yahoo News, “A Minnesota tattoo artist and human REMAINS aficionado was sentenced to 15 months in prison for adding the stolen CORPSE of a stillborn BABY boy to his collection”
This really is a SICKO Honkie in your PERVERTED Honkieland, LOL !!!
Only Asiatics of the ‘mongoloid’ race should be admitted to as immigrants to Japan.
Everyone else can fuck off.
They even re-exerted imperial control on Panama, and forced the Panamanians to oust their Hongkong port operator.
Now these guys have the gall to point fingers at the Chinese for taking a lease on a port in lieu of repayment.
Funny!!! LOL!!! recovering a portion of your unpayable loan is not charity.
China did it out of charity.
But you would be too stupid to understand the difference.
Actually it WAS the Chinese! The Euro's told the Sri Lankans that it might be profitable if done in 3 stages, with the last stage completed around 2040. Then they went to the Chinks and THEY said it would be profitableif done all at once. Fucking Loser!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah it was Europeans, not Chinese.
see above!! LOL!!!!!!
You should take issue with the Europeans who stated it was viable. The Sri Lankans believed them.
But they knew they weren't going to get back the money loaned! LOL!!! ... so Chinklander management started by skimming of the top and then skidadled. All out of the goodness of their hearts. LOL!!!!
They would rather have money.
But since Sri Lanka pleaded to give them a lease, they agreed, to help Sri Lanka out.
But hey, why let a few facts stand in the way of your stupid beliefs?
But hey, why let a little facts stand in the way of your stupid beliefs?
There was a Muslim who was convinced to go to Xinjiang, China and check things out for himself. He visited a few mosques and found out that he could no pray in any of them. Must be Islam with Chinese Chacterists. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!! starts at 49.40 on the followinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QoePc_f0mMReplies: @tamo, @littlereddot, @bihar
This guy roasting the Chinese dude over the Uyghurs has 1000X more sense than you.
Hey dumb Honkie, you said “He visited a few mosques and found out that he could no pray in any of them.” Knowing your Honkieland has been treating moslems very badly, you Honkies have no room to criticise Chinese.
and what does that have to do with whether Chinland controls it????
Hambantota Port was proposed by the Sri Lankans themselves.
If you have money to spend there is always someone who will do a "study" and then tell you what you want to hear ... whether or not this has any bearing to reality is another matter. LOL!!
They got European consultants who after a study found that it was viable.
Westerners like .... Europeans????? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!
After it was planned, the Westerners refused to build it.
Building a major port right next to another major port, which you are in the process of expanding, is not the wisest mive ... but if you have the money and want to build something, there is always someone to build it. Especially when Chinese loans come with clauses requiring it be spent on Chinese companies. LOL!!!!!
The Sri Lankans asked for Chinese help and it was built.
Trouble like 1 port call a week??? LOL!!!
After the Sri Lankans got into trouble and could not pay up the loans, it was the Sri Lankans themselves who asked China to take take a lease on in exchange for repayments
So there is a report stating that Chinkland does not have a 99 year lease on the port??? I seriously doubt it. LOL!!!!Replies: @littlereddot, @tamo
You are a total idiot. A smarter person would read a more reputable report on it. But of course you won’t.
You said ” Since you previously states that a 99 year lease is akin to ownershuip, per your own words Chinkland now OWNS the port. ”
How many foreign ports and canals did Honkieland take over and was later forced to give them up?
Chang is a hoot, predicting China’s ‘collapse’ for thirty glorious years. He’s FoxNew’s pet ‘rice-nigger’ and, following Malcolm X’s usage, a ‘House Banana’ who cares more for his White Master than for himself.
He is not a white gentile But he is a Jew masquerading as a white gentile. Powerful as Jews may be, they still have an inferiority comlex vis a vis the old established American ruling class so that they try to hide themselves behind Anglo-Saxon or Greman names.
AND the tap water in Chicago, Cleveland, Jackson, Mississippi, Pittsburgh, Newark, San Diego, Baltimore, Fresno, Houston, Milwaukee, Las Vegas, Birmingham, Alabama, Tucson, Philadelphia, Norfolk, Virginia-just the fifteen WORST lead-polluted water supplies. It explains Fungus, don’t it.
Western Honkies like Japanese because they think Japanese are easy to be pushed around.
Yes that is true. They make the mistake of thinking all Asians are like the Japanese.
When this kind of Honkies come to Korea and try to push Koreans around ,they get their asses kicked, LOL !!!
Exactly. When the LA riots happened. The Koreans banded together and kept their businesses, while other stores burned.
Wow,same here. I only sleep about 3 hours a day. and thrashing ignorant white nationalists has become my goal in retirement. I just love this site. I feel tremendous camanraderie toward you guys.
“You forgot to mention chop sticks, opium addiction, cat-fried rice and dog dumplings”
You forget to mention,cousin marriage in some American states, fentanyl, crack, barbecued- possum, stir-fried armadillo, gator gumbo.LOL !!!
“Wachu talkin bout Mr. Willis?! I thought I was a black guy”
Yes, little colored boy, you didn’t pass the one-drop rule,lol !!!
:”Lame tamo. You had better consult the I Ching for more loser one-liners…”
CSB, you better get some good one-liners from”No, He’s Not a Monkey, He’s an Ape and He’s My Son” written by your own loving mommy, lol!!!
You said “What”.
Figure it out,dumbass.lol !!!
“I did not draw the cartoon you cretin.”
Yes you did, you shithead lol !!!
Hey little boy, congratulations!! you are the # 1 DRAG queen of the MAGA bowl ,lol!!!
Likewise... when or if you grow up.Replies: @tamo
We don’t need you in our part of the world. You just stay where you are.
Hey kid, you better grow up and think hard about how to survive in your future land of blacks and browns or go to your REAL homeland,the genecidal Israel and learn how to save your ass from Hamas.
LOL, told to you by the same sources that told you Saddam had WMDs. Your media exaggerates and gives you bogeymen so Americans think they live in the least bad place on earth.USA's control mechanism is way better than anything Singapore or China or USSR had.There is no better control than people watching themselves for fear of being fired from their jobs or cancelled and ending up homeless in the streets.Wokeism and PCness birthplace is USA. Its no surprise.
And you say that from a place that is THE leader in total control of the population?
Exactly. The police have better things to do than to look into the footage all the time. The only time they bother is when a crime takes place. Then the perpetrator is caught fast.You guys think that "no cameras = privacy". Meanwhile your iPhone is logging everything you do. Send me an email saying that you are going to bomb the Israeli embassy. Lets see what happens to you then.
I remember a girl from there telling me “what’s wrong with cameras all over the place?” way before cameras were all over the place in this country. Singapore was far ahead. “If you’ve got nothing to hide…”
Agreed on not staying in the black areas at night, even daytime often. Just SAY it – don’t be a coward.Don't be disingenuous. The Tenderloin had plenty of white druggies and crazies.I will say this though. Of all the races I interacted with in the USA, my best experiences were with Black folks. It's not just me, many of my friends had similar experiences.Whites were way too uptight. American Asians tried too hard to distinguish themselves from Asian Asians. Blacks were relaxed and affable. I genuinely liked them.How do you like my truth?
It certainly is.
There may be some good reasons you’ve got, but it surely can’t be the stuff you wrote above
Americans are obsessed with their "Freedom of speech". They forget that "freedom of speech" was enshrined by their Founding Fathers not for its own sake, but for a specific reason. It was so that Americans would never be hoodwinked then oppressed by a tyrant.Americans have really missed the woods for the trees. They Shadow Tyrants have lulled Americans with a watered down Freedom of Speech, and with sleight of hand enslaved them without them even noticing.
When it comes to Orwellian things, the UK of ’25 is that book come to life. Have you not been following the people being arrested for stating facts and opinions that The Regime doesn’t like?
Of course it is not. But I have road tripped on both coasts. While not to the same extent as SF, I saw also plentiful homeless on the East Coast. In Florida, at traffic light junctions, homeless would come up to your car and wipe your windscreen with a dirty sleeve, and then ask for payment. It is the kind of thing you would expect in Bangladesh.Even in Washington DC, in the side roads perpendicular and just off the main Pennsylvania Ave, there are already homeless everywhere. I remember homeless on the back steps of the Smithsonian. I was pretty shocked to see the numbers of homeless in DC. That was 10 years back. I am sure it is even worse now.
As for your San Francisco stories, do you reckon that that city today is representative of America, even of American cities of the same size?
Yeah, that is a nasty village thing. Singapore had public education campaigns to stop the habit decades ago. China is now doing the same by encouraging their citizens to stop. Its not 100% yet, but certainly much better than a couple of decades ago. If you read Chinese, you would see banners encouraging folks to "be civilised" everywhere...meaning don't cut queue, don't behave like a hooligan, don't spit...etc. etc.One shouldn't forget that it was a habit in the West too, not that long ago. Remember the spittoons in the saloons in all those cowboy movies? Hell, even the US Senate still retains them on the Senate floor as part of "tradition".
Chinese people will hawk a loogie at will, anywhere, anytime.
They will change. But it will take a generation or two. Especially for the rural folk. City folk tend to have more refinement. The problem with internal tourist sites, is that you get folks from all over the country, even the rural village bumpkins.The Taiwanese are essentially Chinamen. But they don't behave the same way. That is because Taiwan went through the same process that the West did. The lower classes learned refinement and good manners from the middle and upper classes.In China, this process was interrupted by the "Cult of the Proletariat" during their early Communist era. If the common peasant/worker was to be lionised, how could he be encouraged to take on the affected manners of the bourgeoisie? But now that time is over, and the Chinese have started a return to their earlier roots, where the individual is encouraged to emulate the Junzi. Jun Zi literally means "a prince" or "a noble person". In Confucian context, it is interpreted as a "cultivated person" or "person of virtue". It can be approximated to your Western "gentleman", though it does not have a connotation of social class, but rather of individual self development.Replies: @tamo, @Achmed E. Newman, @tamo, @showmethereal
being around loud rude Chinamen at that point.
Koreans are loud like Chinese. I speak and laugh loud a lot of times.
I hear some restraunts and bars in Japan ban both Chinese and Koreans.I’ll say FUK them.
On the other hand, Japanese are too quite and act like DEAD meat WITHOUT emotions. When you talk to a Japanese, you don’t know what they are thinking because they are very reserved so that if you ask a Japanese for a straight answer, all you can get from him is “perhaps” or “maybe” with a smile. Sometimes I feel like grabbing his throat and beat the hell out of him. But you ask a Korean for a straight answer, most likely he will say yes or no right away.
Western Honkies like Japanese because they think Japanese are easy to be pushed around.
When this kind of Honkies come to Korea and try to push Koreans around ,they get their asses kicked, LOL !!!
Yes that is true. They make the mistake of thinking all Asians are like the Japanese.
Western Honkies like Japanese because they think Japanese are easy to be pushed around.
Exactly. When the LA riots happened. The Koreans banded together and kept their businesses, while other stores burned.
When this kind of Honkies come to Korea and try to push Koreans around ,they get their asses kicked, LOL !!!
Amerasians like him suffer from intense self-hatred because they are neither White nor Asian, caught between the racial division of US society, one White and the other Black. Whites would exclude him as “Asian” but East Asians would denigrate him as a half-breed mongrel. In the Philippines, Amerasians like him can be found in Olongapo working as street whores, just like their Filipina mothers, and treated as social outcasts by Philippine Society.
That’s good. We don’t need you in our part of the world. You just stay wher you are.
Likewise... when or if you grow up.Replies: @tamo
We don’t need you in our part of the world. You just stay where you are.
LOL, told to you by the same sources that told you Saddam had WMDs. Your media exaggerates and gives you bogeymen so Americans think they live in the least bad place on earth.USA's control mechanism is way better than anything Singapore or China or USSR had.There is no better control than people watching themselves for fear of being fired from their jobs or cancelled and ending up homeless in the streets.Wokeism and PCness birthplace is USA. Its no surprise.
And you say that from a place that is THE leader in total control of the population?
Exactly. The police have better things to do than to look into the footage all the time. The only time they bother is when a crime takes place. Then the perpetrator is caught fast.You guys think that "no cameras = privacy". Meanwhile your iPhone is logging everything you do. Send me an email saying that you are going to bomb the Israeli embassy. Lets see what happens to you then.
I remember a girl from there telling me “what’s wrong with cameras all over the place?” way before cameras were all over the place in this country. Singapore was far ahead. “If you’ve got nothing to hide…”
Agreed on not staying in the black areas at night, even daytime often. Just SAY it – don’t be a coward.Don't be disingenuous. The Tenderloin had plenty of white druggies and crazies.I will say this though. Of all the races I interacted with in the USA, my best experiences were with Black folks. It's not just me, many of my friends had similar experiences.Whites were way too uptight. American Asians tried too hard to distinguish themselves from Asian Asians. Blacks were relaxed and affable. I genuinely liked them.How do you like my truth?
It certainly is.
There may be some good reasons you’ve got, but it surely can’t be the stuff you wrote above
Americans are obsessed with their "Freedom of speech". They forget that "freedom of speech" was enshrined by their Founding Fathers not for its own sake, but for a specific reason. It was so that Americans would never be hoodwinked then oppressed by a tyrant.Americans have really missed the woods for the trees. They Shadow Tyrants have lulled Americans with a watered down Freedom of Speech, and with sleight of hand enslaved them without them even noticing.
When it comes to Orwellian things, the UK of ’25 is that book come to life. Have you not been following the people being arrested for stating facts and opinions that The Regime doesn’t like?
Of course it is not. But I have road tripped on both coasts. While not to the same extent as SF, I saw also plentiful homeless on the East Coast. In Florida, at traffic light junctions, homeless would come up to your car and wipe your windscreen with a dirty sleeve, and then ask for payment. It is the kind of thing you would expect in Bangladesh.Even in Washington DC, in the side roads perpendicular and just off the main Pennsylvania Ave, there are already homeless everywhere. I remember homeless on the back steps of the Smithsonian. I was pretty shocked to see the numbers of homeless in DC. That was 10 years back. I am sure it is even worse now.
As for your San Francisco stories, do you reckon that that city today is representative of America, even of American cities of the same size?
Yeah, that is a nasty village thing. Singapore had public education campaigns to stop the habit decades ago. China is now doing the same by encouraging their citizens to stop. Its not 100% yet, but certainly much better than a couple of decades ago. If you read Chinese, you would see banners encouraging folks to "be civilised" everywhere...meaning don't cut queue, don't behave like a hooligan, don't spit...etc. etc.One shouldn't forget that it was a habit in the West too, not that long ago. Remember the spittoons in the saloons in all those cowboy movies? Hell, even the US Senate still retains them on the Senate floor as part of "tradition".
Chinese people will hawk a loogie at will, anywhere, anytime.
They will change. But it will take a generation or two. Especially for the rural folk. City folk tend to have more refinement. The problem with internal tourist sites, is that you get folks from all over the country, even the rural village bumpkins.The Taiwanese are essentially Chinamen. But they don't behave the same way. That is because Taiwan went through the same process that the West did. The lower classes learned refinement and good manners from the middle and upper classes.In China, this process was interrupted by the "Cult of the Proletariat" during their early Communist era. If the common peasant/worker was to be lionised, how could he be encouraged to take on the affected manners of the bourgeoisie? But now that time is over, and the Chinese have started a return to their earlier roots, where the individual is encouraged to emulate the Junzi. Jun Zi literally means "a prince" or "a noble person". In Confucian context, it is interpreted as a "cultivated person" or "person of virtue". It can be approximated to your Western "gentleman", though it does not have a connotation of social class, but rather of individual self development.Replies: @tamo, @Achmed E. Newman, @tamo, @showmethereal
being around loud rude Chinamen at that point.
Littlereddot, you are TOO nice to this asshole. Why do you put up with this motherfucker? I had a few encounters with him in the past. I think he is a devious Kike.
ha,ha, ha, you made my day!!!
Sometimes perception takes a while to catch up to reality. Most of the time – those who build more of anything complex usually are the most proficient at it.
Well this is more statistical than technologically analytical…. But again – manufacturing processes mean something. Of course there are specializations like cruise ships. Very few countries are able to build cruise ships. They are in some ways as complicated as commercial planes.
As to Japan — like almost everything else it has fallen behind China and South Korea. I give it to you South Koreans because you are so much smaller. I know that is why Japan does not want a unified Korea. Well hey it coveted Koryeo also
https://www.marineinsight.com/know-more/top-10-ship-building-countries-in-the-world/
https://cruisesolutioner.com/where-cruise-ships-are-built-a-comprehensive-guide/
Ha! And you say that from a place that is THE leader in total control of the population? I remember a girl from there telling me "what's wrong with cameras all over the place?" way before cameras were all over the place in this country. Singapore was far ahead. "If you've got nothing to hide..."
I don’t want to live in a place where everyone is paranoid and uptight, afraid of being cancelled because he said something un-politically correct.
Agreed on not staying in the black areas at night, even daytime often. Just SAY it - don't be a coward. This is one thing I really like about Mr. Unz's site is that people will speak these truths and are allowed to by the proprietor. Meanwhile, the US Gov't is still kind of limited to do anything about it due to that "pesky" Amendment I.
Careful not to drive through no-go areas lest my car windows be smashed. Afraid to use the parks after dark.
There may be some good reasons you've got, but it surely can't be the stuff you wrote above. They've imported their very own black thugs along with hordes of Moslems. That's not my point though. When it comes to Orwellian things, the UK of '25 is that book come to life. Have you not been following the people being arrested for stating facts and opinions that The Regime doesn't like?As for your San Francisco stories, do you reckon that that city today is representative of America, even of American cities of the same size? It's as if the California and city governments purposely ruined the place over the last 40 years. It used to be a great city. Regarding your story on not understanding the culture, I do get your non-eye-contact point. I get that Chinese people will hawk a loogie at will, anywhere, anytime. I've got not too much of a problem with that. The one I don't like is the pushiness in what should be lines. This time it was not doing any good for anyone - we were all in the same massive line together to see the pandas at the Peking zoo. Yes, somehow they've got to just keep pushing. I finally bailed, vaulted 2 of those expandable barriers, and went to sit on a park bench and then see the big cats. I really felt for them, being around loud rude Chinamen at that point.Replies: @littlereddot, @tamo, @mulga mumblebrain
Let’s put it this way. If given a choice between UK and USA, I would pick UK.
You said” I really felt for them, being around loud rude Chinamen at that point.”
If you feel that way, don’t go to China, you dumb Honkie or Kike.
I feel the same way about yours.
I thought China has already caught up with South Korea in shipbuilding technology but the South Korean shipbuilders say they are still ahead. So I have been trying to find the right answer but so far I haven’t found it. If you know the answer, please let me now. This thing has been really bugging me. Also where does Japan come in between the two?.
On the other hand, show me some East Asian-cacasian admixture that doesn’t work too well.
Hey punk,are you being sarcastic?
My own observation is that Occidental and Oriental mixes produce the best looking offspring.
individuals originating form East and West, are quite drawn to each other.
My perspective accrues from experience, an inductive approach of direct observation and verification.I do not disagree with you. If any Asian parent were to approve of their kids marrying anyone outside of their own cultures, Caucasians are on the top of the list. I will just say that all things being equal, a Singaporean parent would rather have a Caucasian son or daughter-in-law than an African or Middle Eastern one.Replies: @tamo
I’m not sure about that. I have seen a lot of homely looking East Asian -caucasian admixture,on the other hand, some of them are nice looking. It all depends on the parent’s looks.
My favorites are Korean historical dramas set in many hundreds of years ago. I think you are I are in the same generation. I really don’t care for K-pop or anythig else influenced by American black music.
I like Korean oldies including the traditional Korean music. One thing about you, you are very patient and kind and much more refined than I am. Koreans are very direct and have a hot temper. Luckily,we have a very tight gun control sysyem,lol.
By your standards Somalia and Zimbabwe are not behind as well ... seeing as they are both tied for last place, along with a bunch of other loser countries. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
Just your first line shows stupidity. Koreans and Japanese companies don’t make commercial airliners nor commercial jet engines. China is far ahead of them on both supply chains.
Nope! Both South Korea and Japan are both well ahead of Chinkland in construction quality. They certainly know how to make decent rebar, concrete, steel beams, plaster, etc etc et fucking cetera. LOL!!
As to everything else on your list – plain stupid. They are not ahead of Chinese companies…. Even the Korean government has publicly lamented as such because the trade relationship shows Korean companies are losing out to Chinese companies. Korean companies themselves state by 2030 they don’t even think they will be competitive in their top export industry. But I big mouth like you says otherwise…. A troll that does nothing of substance:
You said”Hopefully not straight from the tap because Chinklander tap water is usually undrinkable”‘ I think you idiot are describing the tap water from Flint, Michigan in Honkieland,LOL !!!!
I suspect what we have here is a case of penis envy. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!
Sorry, Mr. Hugepenis,
Mid supply line electronics would not exist without end of the line buyers ... and the US is that end of the line. LOL!!!
China not the USA is the largest market for Japan and South Korea for its high-tech products including semiconductors. That’s because China is the world’s hub for electronics manufacturing which is downstream to their semiconductor industries. Even their back-end OSAT (Outsourced Semiconductor Assembly and Test) factories have already moved to China because of the need for chiplet integration at the wafer level before being assembled and packaged into semiconductor products which are then installed onto PCBs using SMT machines.
That's only because the US wisely offloaded all the pollution that is the result of processing them onto Chinkland.
And don’t forget that China is the world’s top supplier of rare-earths, gallium, germanium, industrial diamonds and other critical minerals which are the upstream feedstock to their semiconductor industries.
You said”That’s only because the US wisely offloaded all the pollution that is the result of processing them onto Chinkland.”
Now Honkieland is paying dearly for offloding all the pollution to China. No wonder Honkieland that is full of stupids thinking like you, is going down fast, LOL !!!
You are NOTHING but an old senile white moron who spews a lot of shit out of his rear end that also functions as his stupid big mouth.
Hey old fat fuck, You don’t know anything about Korea. You are nothing but a DELUSIONAL white shitbag. The first time, I saw a so-called white person many decades ago in Korea, I was truly shocked by his UGLINESS with BUTThole-shaped ,caved-in eyes that looked like BIG two black EMPTY holes from a distance, big protruding nose, ape-like HAIRY FAT body with REPULSIVE body odor!!!
You are the kind of a DELUSIONAL white loser , because of his low-class family background and meager education, low-status job and being PHYSICALLY REPULSIVE, who CAN NOT get a date with decent looking white woman so that your ONLY choice is the South East Asian loose girls. bargirls or prostitutes, lol !!!
On the other hand,I have no problem with going out with nice-looking women of ANY race.
But I PREFER East Asian women.
airliners and commercial jet engines
Except for certain parts of semiconductor supply chains – can you name an industry where Chinese companies are behind?
Just your first line shows stupidity. Koreans and Japanese companies don’t make commercial airliners nor commercial jet engines. China is far ahead of them on both supply chains.
As to everything else on your list – plain stupid. They are not ahead of Chinese companies…. Even the Korean government has publicly lamented as such because the trade relationship shows Korean companies are losing out to Chinese companies. Korean companies themselves state by 2030 they don’t even think they will be competitive in their top export industry. But I big mouth like you says otherwise…. A troll that does nothing of substance:
https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_business/1230137.html
By your standards Somalia and Zimbabwe are not behind as well ... seeing as they are both tied for last place, along with a bunch of other loser countries. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
Just your first line shows stupidity. Koreans and Japanese companies don’t make commercial airliners nor commercial jet engines. China is far ahead of them on both supply chains.
Nope! Both South Korea and Japan are both well ahead of Chinkland in construction quality. They certainly know how to make decent rebar, concrete, steel beams, plaster, etc etc et fucking cetera. LOL!!
As to everything else on your list – plain stupid. They are not ahead of Chinese companies…. Even the Korean government has publicly lamented as such because the trade relationship shows Korean companies are losing out to Chinese companies. Korean companies themselves state by 2030 they don’t even think they will be competitive in their top export industry. But I big mouth like you says otherwise…. A troll that does nothing of substance:
Since Singapore is mentioned, I will have to give my 2 cents worth.The attitudes are a mixed bag. The propensity to marry Caucasians varies across racial groups in Singapore. The Indians/South Asians are the most eager to lighten the complexion of their genepool. Preference for lighter skin is hardwired into their culture as easily seen in their caste structure. Lofty Brahmins are the lightest skinned and the detested Untouchables are the darkest skinned.The Eurasian community in Singapore is descended from Malaccan/Goan Eurasian communities. Their racial mix is essentially Portuguese X Indian. Their roots are in the Portuguese colonies of Goa and Malacca. That is also why in the Eurasian community, you will find Portuguese origin names like De Souza, Silva etc etc. Their cuisine is a hybrid of Portuguese and Indian. Their origin is very old, typically from 1500 onwards. Every "Eurasian" is very keen to emphasise their Europeanness over his Indian/Asianness. Even if his genetic heritage is 99% Indian and just 1% Portuguese, every Eurasian will take pains to let you know he is Eurasian and not Indian. In addition their inbuilt preference for lighter skin, there is the added pull of prestige by associating with their colonial masters. To some extent the same pull of prestige of colonial masters is true of Southeast Asians. In Singapore, Malay women are noted be much more amenable to mixing with Western men than say the Chinese. There is a derogatory term here known as "Sarong Party Girl". This is in reference to girls who used to like to mix with Western men. They would wear the traditional sarong skirt to parties to increase their exotic appeal. One must remember that in colonial times, Westerners were the master. Attitudes carry on for decades after decolonisation. So to these girls, marrying a Western man was an immediate promotion in their social standing. Very often, once they married a Western man, they would put on airs, and speak with a accent, to show everyone their new status. This of course would irritate everybody else. So when one uses the term SPG or Sarong Party Girl, it is a big insult.In other parts of SE Asia, it is more or less true. Perhaps it is most obvious in Philippines, where to have a Spanish family name is a mark of being in the elite classes. While the Iberians seem to have intermarried with their colonial subjects the most, the Northern Europeans seem to have less of this tendency. The Brits, Dutch and French have left much less hybrid progeny behind.In contrast with South and Southeast Asia, North East Asia, on the other hand, had less of a experience of being colonized by the West, so attitudes towards intermarriage with Westerners are somewhat less favourable. But Japan is an interesting case. Firstly it was occupied by the USA, so it got a dose of the "colonial intermarriage aspirations" that the South and Southeast Asians also had. Secondly, Japan was already pre-inoculated to admire the West. We note that after seeing China humiliated at the Opium Wars, Japan reacted to Commodore Perry's gunships in Tokyo Bay with the Meiji Era, eagerly copying the West. So Japan had a much longer period of seeing the West in a favourable light. Japan is easily the most westernised of the NE Asian countries.We have to compare Japan's adoption of Western ways with an earlier period in the 600s, when after being defeated by Chinese and Korean forces in Korea, Japan entered a period of wholesale adoption of Chinese culture and technology. So Japan does have a history of opening up to a foreign culture after it has been defeated militarily.China and Korea are different. China has always had a deep sense of itself, always looking inward and back to its past for inspiration. Foreign conquerors found themselves being assimilated by the Chinese, rather than the other way around.Korea has for millenia been the closest of China's friends. In terms of culture, they are the closest to China, not least because of the Confucian commonality. It is interesting to note that when the Manchus conquered China, the Koreans lamented the loss, and felt that they had now inherited the responsibility to continue Confucian culture.Replies: @Poupon Marx, @tamo, @antibeast
I submit an organization of proud Eurasians of Singapore:
You said “Korea has for millenia been the closest of China’s friends. In terms of culture, they are the closest to China, not least because of the Confucian commonality. It is interesting to note that when the Manchus conquered China, the Koreans lamented the loss, and felt that they had now inherited the responsibility to continue Confucian culture”
That’s very true. I want to mention an interesting fact. In the early 80s, when China began to REEMPHASIZE it’s Confcian heritage, many Chinese scholars came to South Korea to consult with Korean Confucian scholars on various Confucian rituals that were kept alive in South Korea.
That really made me proud of being Korean more than anything else!!!
I submit an organization of proud Eurasians of Singapore:
Since Singapore is mentioned, I will have to give my 2 cents worth.
The attitudes are a mixed bag. The propensity to marry Caucasians varies across racial groups in Singapore.
The Indians/South Asians are the most eager to lighten the complexion of their genepool. Preference for lighter skin is hardwired into their culture as easily seen in their caste structure. Lofty Brahmins are the lightest skinned and the detested Untouchables are the darkest skinned.
The Eurasian community in Singapore is descended from Malaccan/Goan Eurasian communities. Their racial mix is essentially Portuguese X Indian. Their roots are in the Portuguese colonies of Goa and Malacca. That is also why in the Eurasian community, you will find Portuguese origin names like De Souza, Silva etc etc. Their cuisine is a hybrid of Portuguese and Indian. Their origin is very old, typically from 1500 onwards.
Every “Eurasian” is very keen to emphasise their Europeanness over his Indian/Asianness. Even if his genetic heritage is 99% Indian and just 1% Portuguese, every Eurasian will take pains to let you know he is Eurasian and not Indian. In addition their inbuilt preference for lighter skin, there is the added pull of prestige by associating with their colonial masters.
To some extent the same pull of prestige of colonial masters is true of Southeast Asians. In Singapore, Malay women are noted be much more amenable to mixing with Western men than say the Chinese. There is a derogatory term here known as “Sarong Party Girl”. This is in reference to girls who used to like to mix with Western men. They would wear the traditional sarong skirt to parties to increase their exotic appeal.
One must remember that in colonial times, Westerners were the master. Attitudes carry on for decades after decolonisation. So to these girls, marrying a Western man was an immediate promotion in their social standing. Very often, once they married a Western man, they would put on airs, and speak with a accent, to show everyone their new status. This of course would irritate everybody else. So when one uses the term SPG or Sarong Party Girl, it is a big insult.
In other parts of SE Asia, it is more or less true. Perhaps it is most obvious in Philippines, where to have a Spanish family name is a mark of being in the elite classes. While the Iberians seem to have intermarried with their colonial subjects the most, the Northern Europeans seem to have less of this tendency. The Brits, Dutch and French have left much less hybrid progeny behind.
In contrast with South and Southeast Asia, North East Asia, on the other hand, had less of a experience of being colonized by the West, so attitudes towards intermarriage with Westerners are somewhat less favourable. But Japan is an interesting case.
Firstly it was occupied by the USA, so it got a dose of the “colonial intermarriage aspirations” that the South and Southeast Asians also had.
Secondly, Japan was already pre-inoculated to admire the West. We note that after seeing China humiliated at the Opium Wars, Japan reacted to Commodore Perry’s gunships in Tokyo Bay with the Meiji Era, eagerly copying the West. So Japan had a much longer period of seeing the West in a favourable light. Japan is easily the most westernised of the NE Asian countries.
We have to compare Japan’s adoption of Western ways with an earlier period in the 600s, when after being defeated by Chinese and Korean forces in Korea, Japan entered a period of wholesale adoption of Chinese culture and technology. So Japan does have a history of opening up to a foreign culture after it has been defeated militarily.
China and Korea are different. China has always had a deep sense of itself, always looking inward and back to its past for inspiration. Foreign conquerors found themselves being assimilated by the Chinese, rather than the other way around.
Korea has for millenia been the closest of China’s friends. In terms of culture, they are the closest to China, not least because of the Confucian commonality. It is interesting to note that when the Manchus conquered China, the Koreans lamented the loss, and felt that they had now inherited the responsibility to continue Confucian culture.
Hey moron, you are very delusional. I have been to many places you have never heard of. For your information, I don’t watch videos on this forum. Enjoy all Asian bar girls, massage girls to your old fading heart’s content, lol !!!
Your AI said “Whether Korean parents care about their children marrying a white person VARIES greatly, but it is becoming more accepted due to increased international exchange, though some still express concerns over social pressures, cultural differences, and communication.” “While some may have initial reservations, many parents are ultimately supportive as long as their child is happy, and concerns about cultural background and traditions can be overcome with time and effort, particularly when the partner is from a Western country.”
It is true Korean -caucasian marriage is becomng more TOLERATED than it was decades ago.
I said “Yes, things are relaxed somewhat in East Asia regarding to interracial mariage. But it’s still taboo in Korea.Your AI is saying what I said VERY DIPLOMATICALLY, nothing else.
Hey SHITBAG, for your information, I have been to many places in the South East Asia,China,Japan, Europe and Latin America, even in the States,like LA, NY, Miami,SF, Vegas, Savana, Charlston etc. I wasn’t particularly impressed with homeless people, crime, etc in the States.
The Asians in the States are in limbo, I don’t fully consider them as part of us because they became Americanized and a lot of the second generation Asian Americans don’t even speak their native languages and they are not fully accepted by the other Americans either. Asian Americans are differnt species from the Asians living in Asia.
So you are one of those American military “brats” MOST of whom come from lower-middle class or lower-class American households.
NOT all but most of the people who join the U.S. military are losers that CAN NOT find decent civilian job.Also some of mixed-breed children look ok but others don’t look good.just like any other group.
You talk about dating Japanese girls. I strongly doubt MOST of those girls come from good families. NOT all but MOST of them are bar girls,prostitutes .massage parlor girls.
The situation is the same in Korea Specially the girls dating American GIs are looked down upon with contempt. the bottom line is that very RARELY women who come from good families date or marry caucasians in the China,Korea, Japan .
You should know better, you old FUK.
It’not too late for you to see an eye doctor,LOL !!!
You said”Too late, get back in line, Looger already beat you to it with the ‘your really a negro’. Wow tamo! Just think about it, your amazing eastern high IQ failed to preempt Looger of all people! If I were you, I would revisit my slanty-eyed IQ test proctor and ask for my money back.”
You have a lot of nerve talking about the proper use of English language, when you are the guy who spells “harro Amellica” LOL !!!!
You better tell your BUTTHOLE-shaped, sunken- eyed, EYE doctor you want your money back, LOL!!!!
You said “America was colonized by the British, so I say technically it’s no theft.”
Probably the British think you are an ungrateful thiving Yank.
You said “So sowwy friend! Used chinese restaurant hot mustard packets are not legal tender in America.”. I can see you like ALL-YOU-CAN -EAT cheap-American Chinese buffet. LOL !!!
No wonder people call you “an obese white karen with blue hair” You must be an effeminate fat drag queen, LOL !!!!
India has a concept called Akhand Bharat (Greater India). Basically, everything that was once part of the British Raj or areas that had a British presence or were under the sway of the British Raj belongs to India. Hence, Afghanistan, Myanmar, Bhutan, Tibet, etc., are part of India. In 1954, India even published the map of India, which includes Sikkim and Bhutan, and the NEFA (Northeast Frontier Agency, or South Tibet according to the Chinese, or Arunachal Pradesh according to the Indians). Sikkim was annexed by India in 1975, as you mentioned. Bhutan is militarily occupied by India, and India’s coveting of Bhutan’s territory has not decreased.
I am glad you put the Honkeys in their place. Honkeys are ignorant of China and don’t understand Plan A and Plan B. I read all about it in the South China Morning Post. China has two plans to increase Chinese birthrates. Plan A is to put advertisements on TV telling Chinese people to have more children. But, plan B is to activate the AI artificial womb factories. China has created about 350 million artificial wombs run by AI. Once China’s government pushes the big red button, the AI will immediately start manufacturing hundreds of millions of Chinese people in the artificial wombs.
The leader of the Honkeys, Donald Trump, thinks Honkeys can outbreed Chinese people. But, he is wrong. Honkeys will go extinct, and the Chinese AI artificial wombs will create billions of Chinese people to take over the world.
China understands that the world is divided into four nations – China, Russia, North Korea, and West. China understands that West is ruled by Honkeys and their leader is Donald Trump. China understands that Russia and North Korea are weak and will be conquered by West. But thanks to China’s AI artificial wombs, as described by South China Morning Post, the future will belong to China.
You said” Name 5 of these allegedly stolen chinese technologies.’For starters, think silk production, weaving machines, porcelain , cupronickel, tea production (during the Industrial Revolution)
The following Chinese technologies were transmitted to Europe BEFORE or DURING the Industrial Revolution: gunpowder, gun, cannon, bomb, rocket, both land and sea mines, compass. rudder, lee board ,bulkhead-watertight ccompartments, advanced lug sail,paper, printing (both block and movable type 500 years before the birth of Gutenberg), cast iron, so-called Bessemer steel process, coking coal, blast furnace, weaving machines, deep-driilling technology for gas and oil,etc.
You will find the above informationin in The Genius of China by Robert Temple also you will find SOME of them on the List of Chinese Inventions in Wlkipedia.
Knowing that European PROPENSITY for ROBBING and STEALING other peoples’ possessions, I’m very sure Europeans got most of the above teahnologies by ROBBING and STEALING.
You said “America is just returning the favor”
So now I think China is returning the favor for your Ungrateful and Theiving white ancestors’ MISBEHAVIOR.
Come to the point, whitey (since you call East Aians as Orientals, I call you whitey). Why you have to spin a yarn endlessly. You said “I believe historically that Asians were not as resistant to their prodigy marrying a causcasian compared to the opposite” You are wrong again. It’s the OTHER way around. The East Asians opposition to East Asian – caucasian marriage is A LOT stronger than how caucasians feel about it.
I’m not talking about ANY ASIANs. I’m talking about Chinese,Koreans, Japanese
Yes, things relaxed somewhat in East Asia regarding to interracial mariage. But it’s still taboo in Korea. My family is a good example whren my older brother, the FIRST son in my family, married an American white woman, my parents disowned him and was never allowed to come to our home again. I think they still live in America.
Hey Indian, you got me all wrong. I’m a Sinophile but I’m not Chinese or live in China and and I don’t care for communism.
You are a typical Indian who is addicted to spinning a yarn. You mentioned IP theft by China. I’m sure it happens.
How about your wonderful India ? How about reading articles like these online:”India wants US partnership, it should address IP THEFT first”
Sep 24, 2025 · Dating back to its first Special 301 Report in 1989, the U.S. trade representative has singled out India as ONE of the WORST offenders of American intellectual property”
“US again puts India on ‘priority WATCH list’ for alleged IP …”
You said”Heck, we don’t take over our neighboring countries like Sri Lanka or Nepal —”
Again you are lying. India took over SIKKIM militarily FIRST and then forced a SHAM referendom on SIKKIM to make it part of India in 1975.
Tibet has been part of China ever since China conquered it in the 18th entury. After the Chinese civil war, in 1951 the Chinese CENTRAL government sent troops to Tibet to REASSERT the Chinese sovereignty over Tibet. Why don’t you read an article in Wikipeda named Tibet 1911 -1951 and educate yourself instead of spewing out a lot of garbage.
What I said about so-called Hindu-Arabic numeral system is true. I used VERY credible sources such as Dr. Lam Lay Yong’s statement. Dr. Lam finally proved the Chinese origin of so-called Hindu-Arabic numerals, Wikipedia.
So if you don’t like what I said on the subject, then rebutt me using credible sources.
Good luck in your NEXT life, LOL!!!
You said ” hundred years ago, in the West, marriage and procreation between Asians and Caucasians was considered miscegenation and tabooed, if not outright repugnant”
Also the reverse is very ture.For more than many hundred years in the East Asia,inter-racial marriage has been froned upon, specially in Korea. East Asians should marry among themselves to the exclusion of all the other inferior breeds.
You are absolutely right.
moderately prosperous society
Yea – I don’t expect them to understand… But they should be willing to learn. But yeah I don’t know why the “party” still keeps communist in the name. It is fairly obvious that more and more they are returning toward Confucian ideals… Maybe even a mix of legalism… Even outside the party – but in overall society – Taoism and “Chinese” Buddhism are no longer out on the fringe – but back in the mainstream.
But yeah bottom line – while they don’t want Chinese people to still be saving 40% of their income — they don’t want the pendulum to swing the other way completely like the US with too much consumerism and people in personal debt for it.
I hate replying to Anonymous – but your comment is too serious not to. OF COURSE the US wants South Korea to help contain China. China is not stupid. If you read Chinese news you would note they state it plainly. This is simply an attempted expansion of AUKUS.
But you are completely deceived if you believe containing China is in the national interest of those nations. It is the EXACT OPPOSITE. China is all of those nations top trade partner – NOT the US. Also the US is thousands of kilometers away. The US wants them to be rocket and artillery and missile fodder while the US keeps most of it’s forces at home. Just like in WW1 and 2 and just like what is going on in Ukraine. Are you going to tell me with a straight face that containing Russia on NATO’s behalf was in Ukraine’s interest????? And if South Korea does build a nuclear powered submarine (which would be built in the US so the US could benefit financially) — what on earth do you think Russia and North Korea are going to do???? Are you people blind??? Do you not see North Korea openly supplying arms to Russia??? Do you seriously not think the US would force South Korea to also pressure Russia’s Pacific Fleet???? Do you not think North Korea would get “help” building nuclear powered subs from Russia??? North Korea’s conventional subs can already launching ballistic missiles. Americans and South Koreans aren’t thinking straight. Check a map – look where South Korea is and where China is. Where could those big nuclear powered submarines hide???? It’s a stupid waste of money for them really – and would only serve US interests – not South Korean.
Westerners, out of high IQ decency and morality allowed pajeets to crawl out of their malodorous, disgusting, 3rd world shitholes to infest 1st World nations and here is the gratitude they show Whites-
You said “chink theft and replication of Western innovations has nothing to do with that or any other stereotypical yet accurate, ‘cartoon’”
For information,When America was a developing country in the 19th and early 20th centuries, American Honkies who LACKED both creativity and originality, were the biggest THIEVING – copycat in the world. Consequently, the U.S. became the COUNTERFEIT capital of the world.
America STOLE and COPIED other countries’ inventions, ideas without regard to patents, copyright, trademarks. The U.S. Treasury Department in the 19th century even set up a BOUNTY system for rewarding anybody for STEALING and BRINGUNG foreign technologies to America.
As a matter of fact, the 19th century American textile industry was basically based on STOLEN British technologies.
According to such former CIA Directors as Stansfield Turner and James Woolsey, American government STILL engages in industrial espionage against foreign governments and companies.
Also European Honkies stole and copied a lot of Chinese technologies BEFORE the Industrial Revolution.
I disagree with you. China already has Plan B to increase it’s population in case it’s efforts to increase fertility rates don’t works out. Rest assured that Han Chinese will NOT die out.
According to November’s The Atlantic article titled “America’s Impending Population Collapse”.
thanks to Trump’s anti-immigration policy, his administration in 2025 has achieved NET NEGATIVE MIGRATION for the first time in 50 years.If this trend continues, American population will start shirinking from 2031
Also native-born American fertility rate is only 1.5 well BELOW the population replacement level of 2.1.and American whites’ fertility rates are SMALLER than those of blacks or hispanics.
It means that the WHITES in America will be a MINORITY in the VERY near future surrounded by low-IQ blacks, hispanics, dot-indians, mulattos.
It should be “I’m NOT sure” not “I’m sure NOT”.
You said “Recently released trade numbers (much delayed by the government shutdown) show Chinklander exports to the US, for August, were down 37%.”
But even though China’s exports to Honkieland fell 37% in September, it’s WORLD-WIDE exports went up 7.3 %. So Honkieland does not matter that much to China . Have a wonderful Chiristmas WITHOUT Chinese decorations LOL !!!
I’m sure NOT you belong to so-called white race. If you take a DNA test, I’m VERY sure you have some sub- Saharan black genes like your American pope. Just remember the one-drop rule, colored boy, LOL !!!
Oh by the way, I’m willing to pay for your DNA test, money well spent, LOL !!!!
Even the sign ‘0″ is NOT of Indian origin. According to the well-respected Sinologists such as Joseph Needham, Robert Temple, the first use of 0 in India was around 870 AD.
But 0 sign for zero had already been used in Cambodia and Sumatra in 683AD. That’s almost 200 years before the Indian use of 0 for zero.
Now many experts believe the 0 sign for zero came to India by way of Indochina.
Thanks for the info.
This is the missing link in my train of thoughts that I now finally found it.
No nation jumps out of nowhere without any substantial development in the past, and suddenly contribute “O” to mathematical world, let alone the basic civilization.
It’s like the historians in the future look back at the era of 2000s, and claim “Indians were the smartest of all races, occupying CEOs position of every major tech in the world during the 21st century.”
It’s the true fact that Indians hold the CEO position, but it misses the point that they were not founders. They’re just CEOs by chance due to their kissing ass innate ability and their convoluted English speaking skill.
This would also apply to why the “O” character was developed by whatever India tribes at the time by chance while the rest of BC, AD, they’re just clueless superpower wannabe clowns.
India, as LKY best put it, is a lost cause.
If you want to know WHY the US is losing to China, bigly, see this moronic, racist, ‘cartoon’. The cretins have come out to play on this thread.
Is this your 6th grade -level thesis? LOL!!! You are full of it as usual. Just take a look at your post#383 and you are accusing me of kid-level slurs !!! You are nothing but a hypocrite, grow up,little boy. By the way, you need very serious spelling lessons, LOL !!!
China bought some time ... which is running out ... for the US??? Sounds fishy. If China bought some time, doesn't that mean it is running out ... for China?? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!I think Chinkland needs to worry more about the problems inside Chinkland ... instead of problems in the US.Problems like the continuing real estate crash, rapidly bleeding into the banking sector, as well as fleeing investment money. New home sales by builders are now down 80% from the peak per official statistics ...and always always remember that Chinklanders LIE on official statistics. The true number is closer to down 90%!!!! LOL!!!GM recently ordered its suppliers to source parts outside of Chinkland, for cars made outside of Chinkland.Tesla has done the same.and Foxconn continues to move its plants outside of Chinkland!That is probably around 3 million jobs that Chinkland will lose just from these 3 companies pulling out. LOL!!!Replies: @tamo, @antibeast, @showmethereal
The last trade truce by Trump is allowing China to buy some time which is running out for the Yanks who are desperate to keep their Empire in East Asia.
[This vacuous, childish name-calling has become ridiculous. Don’t be surprised if these comments now get trashed. Keep it up and your other comments may also get trashed.]
You low -iq FILTHY Pajeets who SHIT OUTDOORS and DRINK cow PISS and using cow SHIT to clean homes and KILLING a lot of INNOCENT Moslems and also CAN NOT feed their own people, DO NOT have much room to criticize China.
According to Global Hunger Index, the hunger in India is far WORSE than that of sub-Saharan Africa.
Hunger in India is a condition in which adults and children CAN NOT get food all the time, HAVE to eat less, eat poorly, and often go WITHOUT food.
Economist Amartya Sen explained that the inability to PAY for food is the real cause of hunger. In India, poor government policies and MISUSE (aka corruption) of the financially weaker section by the wealthier community are the primary causes of poverty.
I’m not threatening you. I just told you what kind of a person I am. I really don’t give a damn whether this site is pro-white or pro-monky.
But if you use racial slurs against East Asians,then you should expect the same kind of treatment against whites from me.
Misunderstood, unfairly demonized, high IQ, sri-lankan man pulls dick out in front of White woman……………
The real question is how did tamo get out of prison in time to submit his idiot comments……….