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From: David L. <lio...@co...> - 2005-02-28 22:15:17
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Bogdan Diaconescu wrote: >>I have not asked about Rage Theatre 550... >> >> >Well I may be interested to add support for this chip >too. Perhaps we should ask for documents regarding >this chip too. > > That would be great -- the 550 apparently has better video/audio integration and is made for PVRs. We could really use that in Linux -- and this is getting to be a pretty big market. So far none of the graphics manufacturers (to my knowledge) have developed either open or closed tv capture drivers for Linux. That means the GATOS drivers are an important sales factor for ATI cards. When contacting them, we should point out that lots of people want to build PVRs using Linux, and they won't buy ATI cards unless there's a driver. Dave |
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From: Vladimir D. <vo...@mi...> - 2005-02-28 20:04:26
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>> The DevRel people cannot make some decisions. For >> example, in the case of >> microcode I was told that the person who can make >> such a decision was away >> on a trip. There were no news after that, despite >> reminder e-mails about >> once a month. > > Ok. What can we do? In the case of microcode we have a way of locating similar file within ATI drivers, this is the best we can do right now. There should be a way to extract this file from ATI Windows installer directly under Linux, I expect the installer has some sort of ZIP or LZH archive inside. > How the X.org persons communicate > with ATI in order to get documentation for the next > processors? You ask them nicely, just like I do :) Also, the 2d core has not changed much over the years, so often the existing code needs little modifications. If, on the other hand, there is nothing to refer to and ATI is not responding you are stuck. This has been the case with 3d acceleration until Precision Insight people persuaded ATI to provide the specs. The way I heard it there was much, much hard work from Precision Insight just to get the register specs (and note that back then ATI cards 3d performance was not the best) I would expect this to be even more problematic with chips that have analog circuitry inside, as simple bit-banging will not yield optimal values easily. best Vladimir Dergachev |
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From: Bogdan D. <b_d...@ya...> - 2005-02-28 19:37:03
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> >> is due to overdue Rage Theatre 200 > support. > > > >> This is mostly (totally ?) > >> the fault of ATI, or, perhaps, the > faults > >> of communication > >> channels with ATI. > > > > I do not see the difference between ATI and > > communication channels with ATI from > responsiveness > > point of view. Do you mean we need a PR person to > > handle the communication at a higher level? > > The DevRel people cannot make some decisions. For > example, in the case of > microcode I was told that the person who can make > such a decision was away > on a trip. There were no news after that, despite > reminder e-mails about > once a month. Ok. What can we do? How the X.org persons communicate with ATI in order to get documentation for the next processors? Regards, Bogdan > > best > > Vladimir Dergachev > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT > Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. > Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Gatos-devel mailing list > Gat...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gatos-devel > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail |
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From: Vladimir D. <vo...@mi...> - 2005-02-28 18:00:55
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Bogdan Diaconescu wrote: >> * Bogdan Diaconescu has made much progress >> with Rage Theatre 200 >> support that in r200_branch branch of >> ati.4.4.0 module in >> GATOS CVS. Unfortunately this code is >> still against X.org >> 6.7.0, > > Actually I'm working on getting the driver integrated > with latest X.org sources. Though I cannot tell a > finish date. Great :) > >> is due to overdue Rage Theatre 200 support. > >> This is mostly (totally ?) >> the fault of ATI, or, perhaps, the faults >> of communication >> channels with ATI. > > I do not see the difference between ATI and > communication channels with ATI from responsiveness > point of view. Do you mean we need a PR person to > handle the communication at a higher level? The DevRel people cannot make some decisions. For example, in the case of microcode I was told that the person who can make such a decision was away on a trip. There were no news after that, despite reminder e-mails about once a month. best Vladimir Dergachev |
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From: Bogdan D. <b_d...@ya...> - 2005-02-28 17:45:37
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> * Bogdan Diaconescu has made much progress > with Rage Theatre 200 > support that in r200_branch branch of > ati.4.4.0 module in > GATOS CVS. Unfortunately this code is > still against X.org > 6.7.0, Actually I'm working on getting the driver integrated with latest X.org sources. Though I cannot tell a finish date. > is due to overdue Rage Theatre 200 support. > This is mostly (totally ?) > the fault of ATI, or, perhaps, the faults > of communication > channels with ATI. I do not see the difference between ATI and communication channels with ATI from responsiveness point of view. Do you mean we need a PR person to handle the communication at a higher level? > I have not asked about Rage Theatre 550... Well I may be interested to add support for this chip too. Perhaps we should ask for documents regarding this chip too. Regards, Bogdan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail |
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From: Antti A. <aa...@cc...> - 2005-02-28 13:02:32
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: >> The only downside is that 3D acceleration isn't enabled. Xorg.log does say >> that direct rendering is enabled when initializing the server, but when I >> run glxinfo it returns "direct rendering: No". This can be ofcourse be some >> kind of misconfiguration at my end, as I said I only tested very briefly. > > Try doing: > > export LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose > glxinfo > > This should print some extra messages telling you what failed. > Most likely there is some sort of device or permission problem. The glxinfo was trying to use XFree libraries instead of Xorg ones. After setting right LD_LIBRARY_PATH direct rendering is enabled. -- Antti Ajanki |
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From: Vladimir D. <vo...@mi...> - 2005-02-27 19:58:08
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> capture doesn't.
>
> The only downside is that 3D acceleration isn't enabled.
> Xorg.log does say that direct rendering is enabled when
> initializing the server, but when I run glxinfo it returns
> "direct rendering: No". This can be ofcourse be some kind of
> misconfiguration at my end, as I said I only tested very
> briefly.
Try doing:
export LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose
glxinfo
This should print some extra messages telling you what failed.
Most likely there is some sort of device or permission problem.
best
Vladimir Dergachev
>
> Direct rendering did work before when I had X.Org installed in
> a 32-bit box. (And it has ofcourse never worked with XFree on
> 2.6.x kernels, neither on 32 bit nor 64 bit machines)
>
> My card in Radeon 7500 AIW.
>
> --
> Antti Ajanki
>
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From: Antti A. <aa...@cc...> - 2005-02-27 18:15:34
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > > On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Antti Ajanki wrote: > >> I'd like to add that I was pleasantly surprised how well everything works on >> 64-bit mode when I set up my AMD64 box. ati.2 worked right a way and avview >> needed just one trivial fix. Only thing currently *not* working is video >> capture, even though km compiles and loads fine. I haven't really looked >> into this yet. >> >> I am running XFree 4.3.0 on kernel 2.6.10. > > Hi Antti, > > Could you try X.org from CVS ? Since you are using ati.2 I assume you > have an older Radeon card, so it would be useful to know whether I screwed up > anything when doing the merge. I installed CVS X.Org and after a brief test everything seems to be OK, actually the above comments apply; TV-in works, video capture doesn't. The only downside is that 3D acceleration isn't enabled. Xorg.log does say that direct rendering is enabled when initializing the server, but when I run glxinfo it returns "direct rendering: No". This can be ofcourse be some kind of misconfiguration at my end, as I said I only tested very briefly. Direct rendering did work before when I had X.Org installed in a 32-bit box. (And it has ofcourse never worked with XFree on 2.6.x kernels, neither on 32 bit nor 64 bit machines) My card in Radeon 7500 AIW. -- Antti Ajanki |
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From: Bram V. <bra...@wa...> - 2005-02-27 15:34:17
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Hi, - I could find a patch on the list but that one was only partial. - I tried the new Imakefile which still left me with compilation problems. Attached you will find a patch that can be applied to ati.4.4.0 from CVS. This will adjust the Imakefile and solve the compilation problems. Works like a charm for my r128. The patch does some renaming of structures (mostly drmContext to drm_context_t, drmHandle to drm_handle_t). Hope that helps, Bram Verweij On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Marc Michalewicz wrote: > Hi, > > the compilation of the r200_branch aborts with following error compiling r128_accel.c: > > " > In file included from /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/GL/dri/xf86dri.h:43, > from /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/GL/dri/dri.h:40, > from r128.h:60, > from r128_accel.c:83: > /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/xf86drm.h:39:17: drm.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden > " > > So apparently drm.h is missing - do I have to install some other package to get this away ? > > Thanks in advance, > > Marc > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Gatos-devel mailing list > Gat...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gatos-devel > |
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From: Vladimir D. <vo...@mi...> - 2005-02-27 05:11:41
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Antti Ajanki wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Vladimir Dergachev wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I had some spare time to look at the mailing list archive and wanted to
>> comment on the current GATOS status, what things are and why they are that
>> way.
>>
>> First of all what works:
>
> I'd like to add that I was pleasantly surprised how well everything works on
> 64-bit mode when I set up my AMD64 box. ati.2 worked right a way and avview
> needed just one trivial fix. Only thing currently *not* working is video
> capture, even though km compiles and loads fine. I haven't really looked into
> this yet.
>
> I am running XFree 4.3.0 on kernel 2.6.10.
Hi Antti,
Could you try X.org from CVS ? Since you are using ati.2 I assume you
have an older Radeon card, so it would be useful to know whether I screwed
up anything when doing the merge.
thank you !
Vladimir Dergachev
>
> --
> Antti Ajanki
>
>
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From: Hendrik S. <ub...@st...> - 2005-02-26 18:48:06
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Am Samstag, 26. Februar 2005 14:22 schrieb Marc Michalewicz: > after getting avview to work now I get greedy and want > km to work as well, but as aready described in the thread > "km module not being probed => no /dev/video" (I included > the "patch" as published there), upon loading km_drv > and starting avview, a system freeze (kernel oops, see below) > respectively a segfault happens. > > - AIW 9000 pro, > - kernel 2.6.8, > - current cvs- r200_branch, > - Xorg 6.8.2 > > Is there any other solution to the "no /dev/video"-problem > apart from this "patch" I used ? There must be, otherwise > km would not work for this system - ? For me km_drv does not work, too (already posted the error messages). However, in thread "GATOS status comments". One question, though: what Theatre chip is on the AiW 9000 pro? Does TV-Out work with current X.org and its radeon driver? I am somewhat against going with the fglrx driver (same with fiddling with ati.2). HS |
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From: Antti A. <aa...@cc...> - 2005-02-26 17:42:01
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: > > Hi all, > > I had some spare time to look at the mailing list archive and wanted to > comment on the current GATOS status, what things are and why they are that > way. > > First of all what works: I'd like to add that I was pleasantly surprised how well everything works on 64-bit mode when I set up my AMD64 box. ati.2 worked right a way and avview needed just one trivial fix. Only thing currently *not* working is video capture, even though km compiles and loads fine. I haven't really looked into this yet. I am running XFree 4.3.0 on kernel 2.6.10. -- Antti Ajanki |
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From: Marc M. <Mar...@so...> - 2005-02-26 13:23:35
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Hi, after getting avview to work now I get greedy and want km to work as well, but as aready described in the thread "km module not being probed => no /dev/video" (I included the "patch" as published there), upon loading km_drv and starting avview, a system freeze (kernel oops, see below) respectively a segfault happens. - AIW 9000 pro, - kernel 2.6.8, - current cvs- r200_branch, - Xorg 6.8.2 Is there any other solution to the "no /dev/video"-problem apart from this "patch" I used ? There must be, otherwise km would not work for this system - ? The kernel ooups looks as follows: " Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000 Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: printing eip: Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: f9296275 Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: *pde = 00000000 Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: Oops: 0000 [#1] 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: Modules linked in: km_drv km_api_drv udf af_packet radeon usbserial parport_pc lp parport cpu freq_userspace powernow_k8 speedstep_lib freq_table thermal processor fan button battery ac quickcam ovcamchip videodev i 2c_core usb_storage quancom snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_via82xx snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm snd_timer snd_page_alloc gamepor t snd_mpu401_uart snd_rawmidi snd_seq_device snd soundcore ipv6 ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_nat ipt_pkttype ipt_REJECT ipt_TCP MSS ipt_LOG ipt_limit ipt_state ip_conntrack iptable_filter ipt_TOS iptable_mangle ip_tables rfcomm hidp l2cap hci_usb bl uetooth edd usbhid ati_remote evdev joydev st sr_mod ide_cd cdrom ds sg yenta_socket pcmcia_core ehci_hcd uhci_hcd sk98li n amd64_agp agpgart ohci1394 ieee1394 sym53c8xx scsi_transport_spi binfmt_misc rt2500 subfs nls_utf8 nls_cp437 vfat fat d m_mod usbcore reiserfs sata_via libata sd_mod scsi_mod Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: CPU: 0 Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: EIP: 0060:[<f9296275>] Tainted: P U VLI Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: EFLAGS: 00010206 (2.6.8-24.11-default SL92_BRANCH-200501141301260000) Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: EIP is at perform_status_cmd+0x195/0x250 [km_api_drv] Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: eax: 00000000 ebx: f6578000 ecx: ffffffff edx: 00000008 Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: esi: ca9aa5a0 edi: 00000000 ebp: ffffffff esp: ddcd9f00 Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: ds: 007b es: 007b ss: 0068 Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: Process start_avview (pid: 11265, threadinfo=ddcd8000 task=e6a6d550) Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: Stack: 00000009 00000000 00000000 00000000 eb5898c0 ca9aa5a0 eb5898c0 ddcd8000 Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: 00010000 f92968f9 eb5898c8 00000000 082b7990 e914e680 00000000 e6a6d550 Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: c0119c70 00000000 00000000 c015044f 00000000 00008242 00000000 e6a6d550 Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: Call Trace: Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: [<f92968f9>] km_fo_control_read+0x169/0x1b0 [km_api_drv] Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: [<c0119c70>] default_wake_function+0x0/0x10 Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: [<c015044f>] dentry_open+0xcf/0x1b0 Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: [<c0119c70>] default_wake_function+0x0/0x10 Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: [<f9296790>] km_fo_control_read+0x0/0x1b0 [km_api_drv] Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: [<c0150d3f>] vfs_read+0x9f/0x100 Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: [<c0150fcc>] sys_read+0x3c/0x70 Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: [<c0105c69>] sysenter_past_esp+0x52/0x79 Feb 26 12:33:04 a32 kernel: Code: e9 41 0d 00 00 90 89 ca 89 f0 e8 37 fe ff ff 8b 56 14 e9 66 ff ff ff 8b 7b 04 89 e9 31 c0 f2 ae f7 d1 49 89 0c 24 8b 7b 1c 89 e9 <f2> ae f7 d1 49 8b 04 24 01 c1 8d 44 0a 0c 3b 46 10 0f 8d 91 00 " Is there any solutions to this issue ? I tried already to catch NULLPointer accesses in "km_fo_control_read" and "perform_status_cmd" but without any success. Thanks for any help, Marc |
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From: Vladimir D. <vo...@mi...> - 2005-02-25 23:15:00
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Hi all,
I had some spare time to look at the mailing list archive and wanted
to comment on the current GATOS status, what things are and why they are
that way.
First of all what works:
* Radeon support for Rage Theatre (plain one) TV-in has been
merged into X.org CVS.
* I had made some patches with similar Rage 128 support, however
there is a major bug - they lockup when DRI is enabled. I have
not had time to work on this since
* Bogdan Diaconescu has made much progress with Rage Theatre 200
support that in r200_branch branch of ati.4.4.0 module in
GATOS CVS. Unfortunately this code is still against X.org
6.7.0, which is an impedement to people who want to test it,
though is likely a smart decision - there were lots of issues
with Rage Theatre 200 chip itself to be worrying about upgrade
bugs.
Note that while ATI has still not responded to the question of
which license applies to the large microcode file needed for
RT200, a similar file is being distributed as part of ATI
Windows driver which should be easy to use.
The last issues that I was aware of for this driver was audio
support. AFAIK (Bogdan please correct me !) this has been
solved, at least partially.
* TV-out support has been written by Federico Ulivi a while back
for Rage Theatre chips (AFAIK). I think Federico is busy now.
* km is being worked on by Antti Ajanki. The code he started with
was at best experimental - I used it to work out how to do DMA
with ATI cards in a stable manner (it was not trivial, despite
having register reference).
Antti has fixed several bugs, apparently more remain.
Also, being a kernel module km is sensitive to kernel
revisions, so it is recommend you use it with some of the stock
kernels from www.kernel.org.
As always patches *are* welcome !
* Avview has also been worked on by Antti, I see there were a few
fixes, especially for 64-bit archs.
* ati_remote has been long merged into linux kernel and LIRC
(AFAIK there are separate drivers..)
And a few more general comments:
* if you are looking for have fun with interesting hardware, GATOS
code is a good place to start. TV-in and TV-out requires
understanding of low-level aspects of both digital and analog
hardware and there is much to experiment with. Have fun !
* Much of the unsatisfaction with the current state of GATOS
is due to overdue Rage Theatre 200 support. This is mostly (totally ?)
the fault of ATI, or, perhaps, the faults of communication
channels with ATI.
The one and sure way to get your hardware supported by Open Source
driver is to publish documentation. Barring that to provide access
to documentation for sufficient number of interested developers.
More than a year has passed since the release of RT200 before ATI
provided documentation - by which time I became very busy. When
Bogdan expressed desire to work on RT200 code it took a while to
get him "cleared" for access to documentation.
We are still waiting for response on whether we can bundle
microcode with current drivers (this question was asked last
autumn)
I have not asked about Rage Theatre 550...
ATI is not unsupportive - we would not have Open Source drivers
for both 2d and 3d (and TV-in) if they did not provide us with
documentation and sample code.
But, recently, it takes them "forever" to decide what to answer
to a request.
* There have been questions of what card to buy. There are many
factors to consider, in particular:
o the major advantage of AIW-style cards (versus capture adaptors
like bt848) is that the data only travels from video card to
the system RAM once. This was particularly important as PCI
and memory busses on older systems could be overloaded with
data being passed back and force for display, compression,
capture, etc.
Note that even sporadic overloads (say listing a large
directory) might result in drop outs.
Newer, high-end cards and systems are plenty fast for that.
Also, none of Rage Theatres (AFAIK) support HDTV, which
involves much higher data throughput.
So for a modern system you would have to buy a standalone HDTV
card anyway. Which renders any concerns about bandwidth
consumption by analog NTSC capture mostly irrelevant.
o the major disadvantage of AIW cards is that they are not easily
factorizable as separate capture and display devices. Which
demands that programs like MythTV would need special handling
to play nicely with Xv overlays and capture devices. This have
not happened yet and I am not aware of anyone working on these
issues.
o another disadvantage is that multimedia connectors often take
up space on the card's bracket. For example I am not aware of
any AIW cards with dual DVI ports.
Therefore, if you are looking for a high-end ATI card, I would
suggest getting dual-port version. If you need 3d now get one of
R200 derivatives. If you want to tinker with 3d you can get a newer
R300/R400 derivative and try drivers from http://r300.sf.net/
For TV-in I would recommend a standalone HDTV and/or TV-in card.
If you are not looking for a high-end card, but rather something
less expensive and stable, I would suggest an older AIW Radeon 7500
card - the one with plain Rage Theatre and FI1236 tuner (big metal
box), not the small square one that some AIW 8500 variants used.
Take care - variants not produced by ATI might employ different
chips.
If you are looking for some close-to-working code to tinker with
get a card with Rage Theatre 200.
This is just my 5-min opinion, the reality might vary a bit.
* I guess I should remark on my involvement with the project:
I am busy with my studies and my research and (occasionally)
helping with http://r300.sf.net .
Last time I had a sizable chunk of time to work on GATOS
was during December, when I made the long-promised merge of Radeon
TV-in code into X.org. As mentioned above the Rage 128 merge
is incomplete due to unresolved DRI stability issues - I am not
certain TV-in + DRI has ever worked.
I am very thankful to all the people that took over various
components - this code has gotten too big for one person to
handle a good while ago.
best
Vladimir Dergachev
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From: Brett F. <fo...@uo...> - 2005-02-25 21:54:56
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mmi...@bl... wrote: >Hi there, > >tried really hard to find the problem I hav in the list without success, >So >hopefully someone else reading this here knows about: > >After doing the xmkmf <XORG-6.8.2-BUILD-DIR> in the ati.4.4.0 directory >and starting make, compiling stops during building r128_accel.c, > > You need the damn patch... where the hell is it.... Instead of sending you the patch, I have a moddified Imakefile that should accomplish the same. >with following error: > >" >In file included from /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/GL/dri/xf86dri.h:43, >from /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/GL/dri/dri.h:40, >from r128.h:60, >from r128_accel.c:83: >/usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/xf86drm.h:39:17: >drm.h: Datei oder >Verzeichnis nicht gefunden >In file included from /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/GL/dri/xf86dri.h:43, >from /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/GL/dri/dri.h:40, >from r128.h:60, >from r128_accel.c:83: >/usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/xf86drm.h:222: >error: parse error >before "drm_context_t >" >... (lots of errors follow) > >Apparently, something is missing on my SuSE 9.2-system, but what ? > >I searched for the missing "drm.h" and found files with this name at several >places, >(/usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build is the X-Server build-shadowdirectory): > >" >/usr/src/kernel-modules/drm/drm.h >/usr/src/kernel-modules/fglrx/drm.h >/usr/src/packages/SOURCES/xc/extras/drm/shared/drm.h >/usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/lib/GL/dri/drm/drm.h >/usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/extras/drm/shared/drm.h >/usr/src/linux-2.6.8-24/include/config/drm.h >/usr/src/linux-2.6.8-24.11/drivers/char/drm/drm.h >/usr/src/linux-2.6.8-24.11/include/config/drm.h >/usr/X11R6/lib/Server/include/drm.h >" > >What is wrong with my settings ? It cannot be so bad, the x-server build >was quite seamless. > >Thanks a lot for any help - it is really appreciated, > >Marc > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide >Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. >Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click >_______________________________________________ >Gatos-devel mailing list >Gat...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gatos-devel > > |
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From: Corrin L. <lak...@cs...> - 2005-02-25 21:10:27
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 05:45, Raffi Khatchadourian wrote: > Would you happen to have a list of the mentioned TV cards available for > less than $50 that are well supported on Linux and V4L compatible? Anything based on the BT848 (and its immediate replacement the BT878) which= is=20 virtually every single ultra-budget TV tuner card on the market. The V4L=20 site should have a list but it will be far from complete. As a rough=20 guideline, if it says stereo sound then it is probably not a good choice.=20 Because these cards use the line-in port for audio, they have minor=20 synchronisation issues. I used to have one of these, but sold it. The slightly more expensive tuner cards use internal audio-in and are based= on=20 the cx8800. These are less well supported but do work as long as you use t= he=20 bytesex patches. I have one of these. If you can afford it, then the cards with hardware MPEG make life a lot=20 easier. I've recently ordered one of these (PVR-500) to replace my cx8800= =20 since I'm sick of the CPU load stuffing things up. If your system decideds= =20 to do some housekeeping then the others will freeze TV for a sec, but the=20 hardware based ones keep chugging. I was running mythtv and could not=20 always do encoding in realtime on a 1.2GHz machine (but it worked on my=20 1.8GHz machine). Corrin |
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From: Hendrik S. <ub...@st...> - 2005-02-25 20:30:56
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Am Freitag, 25. Februar 2005 20:35 schrieb Bryan D. Stine: > On Monday 21 February 2005 11:42 am, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Looking at the website, some (all?) subprojects seem to be dead: > > http://gatos.sourceforge.net/drm-kernel.php > > It says: > > "but it is planned for merging into regular DRI tree." > > and: > > "was last modified by Vladimir Dergachev 12:11pm Sunday, August 18th > > 2002" Can anyone update the website to reflect the actual status, 2,5 > > years later? > > A lot of the GATOS code has been merged upstream into Xorg. The next major > release of Xorg will include it. The local cvs here may be inactive, but > the project isn't exactly stuck. Interesting. Is the radeon module enhanced, too? Will it support tv-out from the ati.2 module (never tested that one, though)? This would be great. The problem with the km module is probably also kernel based. Even DRM and Framebuffer module do work live easily together. Add the km module and... HS |
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From: Bryan D. S. <bat...@ge...> - 2005-02-25 19:33:03
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On Monday 21 February 2005 11:42 am, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Hi, > > Looking at the website, some (all?) subprojects seem to be dead: > http://gatos.sourceforge.net/drm-kernel.php > It says: > "but it is planned for merging into regular DRI tree." > and: > "was last modified by Vladimir Dergachev 12:11pm Sunday, August 18th > 2002" Can anyone update the website to reflect the actual status, 2,5 yea= rs > later? > A lot of the GATOS code has been merged upstream into Xorg. The next major= =20 release of Xorg will include it. The local cvs here may be inactive, but th= e=20 project isn't exactly stuck. =2D-=20 Bryan D. Stine bat...@ge... |
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From: Brett F. <fo...@uo...> - 2005-02-25 17:02:18
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Lee Parmeter wrote: >Brett: > >Personally, I gave up on Gatos about a year ago, about the >time FC2 was release. Xorg support was just not there for a >long time, and may still not be available in binary format. >I decided during this period to NEVER buy an ATI AIW card >again. In fact I pulled my AIW adapter out of my machine >and bought a generic 9600PRO card and an Asus TV card. I >will continue to buy an ATI video adapter but without the >TV IN support. There are several TV cards available for >less than $50 that are well supported on Linux and V4L >compatible.=20 > =20 > Well I haven't completely given up: There is dying hope left in me. The=20 project needs work clearly but I think a lot of the problems could be=20 solved through better documentation. (And perhaps a good codebase cleanin= g.) >It is encourgaging to see that ATI has taken the ball and >is at least developing current video drivers for Xorg and >Linux. I have 3D working on both FC3 and Ubuntu with ATI's >drivers.=20 > >However, until ATI provides a full suite of packages for >their AIW cards, I will NOT buy them anymore period! > >Lee >--- Brett Foster <fo...@uo...> wrote: > > =20 > >>*sigh* forgot to cc mailling list. >> >>Hendrik Sattler wrote: >> >> =20 >> >>>Hi, >>> >>>Looking at the website, some (all?) subprojects seem to >>> =20 >>> >>be dead: >> =20 >> >>>http://gatos.sourceforge.net/drm-kernel.php >>> It says: >>> "but it is planned for merging into regular DRI tree." >>> and: >>> "was last modified by Vladimir Dergachev 12:11pm >>> =20 >>> >>Sunday, August 18th 2002" >> =20 >> >>>Can anyone update the website to reflect the actual >>> =20 >>> >>status, 2,5 years later? >> =20 >> >>>Also, I am quite confused about how and what to install >>> =20 >>> >>to get it working. >> =20 >> >>>IMHO, the website has a wrong approach to things. >>>=20 >>> >>> =20 >>> >>The website is out of date as I found when I first >>started with the=20 >>project. There are branches which are being currently >>updated but at a=20 >>slow pace. This is because the drivers are semi-stable >>although they=20 >>could use a lot of work cleaning them up. >> >> =20 >> >>>I have an ATI All-in-Wonder Radeon 9000 64MB (video-in, >>> =20 >>> >>tv-in, video-out,=20 >> =20 >> >>>DVI). >>> >>>What do I have to install to get TV-Out/Video-out >>> =20 >>> >>working? I am using Debian=20 >> =20 >> >>>Sarge with XFree86-4.3.0 and linux-2.6.10. Do I really >>> =20 >>> >>have to replace the X=20 >> =20 >> >>>radeon driver (works fine but tv-out) with ati.2? Or >>> =20 >>> >>theater_out and not=20 >> =20 >> >>>ati.2? If ati.2 works, why is not pushed to X upstream? >>>Or is the binary-only fglxr driver the better solution >>> =20 >>> >>by now? >> =20 >> >>>=20 >>> >>> =20 >>> >>Whatever works... gatos has the problem of not being easy >>to figure out=20 >>because just about everything everything needs a >>patch/modification to=20 >>make it work. Finding those patches isn't easy either >>since the mailling=20 >>list doesn't archive such things, I believe. >> >>Brett >> >> =20 >> >>>HS >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide >>>Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products >>> =20 >>> >>from real users. >> =20 >> >>>Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start >>> =20 >>> >>reading now. >> =20 >> >>>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D6595&alloc_id=3D14396&op=3Dclick >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Gatos-devel mailing list >>>Gat...@li... >>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gatos-devel >>>=20 >>> >>> =20 >>> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide >>Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products >>from real users. >>Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start >>reading now. >>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D6595&alloc_id=3D14396&op=3Dclick >>_______________________________________________ >>Gatos-devel mailing list >>Gat...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gatos-devel >> >> =20 >> > > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >-- >Lee Parmeter Emperor, linXos - The Flying Penguin >http://www.linXos.com >Linux Registered User #337161=20 > >'It's free. It works. Duh.'" - Eric Harrison > >"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that w= e are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic = and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." =97 Pres= ident Theodore Roosevelt > >"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government = when it deserves it." - Mark Twain > >God is not a republican or a democrat nor is His government a democracy!= - Lee Parmeter > >The United States is NOT a democracy, it was founded as a Republic for a= specific reason, to protect Liberty for all. In contrast, a democracy gi= ves Liberty to the majority only and is one of the reasons that the US is= so divided. It is only recently that politicians have been calling the U= S a democracy! This is an absolute lie! - Lee Parmeter > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around=20 >http://mail.yahoo.com=20 > =20 > |
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From: Raffi K. <ra...@kh...> - 2005-02-25 16:46:08
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Would you happen to have a list of the mentioned TV cards available f= or=20 less than $50 that are well supported on Linux and V4L compatible? Lee Parmeter wrote: >Brett: > >Personally, I gave up on Gatos about a year ago, about the >time FC2 was release. Xorg support was just not there for a >long time, and may still not be available in binary format. >I decided during this period to NEVER buy an ATI AIW card >again. In fact I pulled my AIW adapter out of my machine >and bought a generic 9600PRO card and an Asus TV card. I >will continue to buy an ATI video adapter but without the >TV IN support. There are several TV cards available for >less than $50 that are well supported on Linux and V4L >compatible.=20 > >It is encourgaging to see that ATI has taken the ball and >is at least developing current video drivers for Xorg and >Linux. I have 3D working on both FC3 and Ubuntu with ATI's >drivers.=20 > >However, until ATI provides a full suite of packages for >their AIW cards, I will NOT buy them anymore period! > >Lee >--- Brett Foster <fo...@uo...> wrote: > > =20 > >>*sigh* forgot to cc mailling list. >> >>Hendrik Sattler wrote: >> >> =20 >> >>>Hi, >>> >>>Looking at the website, some (all?) subprojects seem to >>> =20 >>> >>be dead: >> =20 >> >>>http://gatos.sourceforge.net/drm-kernel.php >>> It says: >>> "but it is planned for merging into regular DRI tree." >>> and: >>> "was last modified by Vladimir Dergachev 12:11pm >>> =20 >>> >>Sunday, August 18th 2002" >> =20 >> >>>Can anyone update the website to reflect the actual >>> =20 >>> >>status, 2,5 years later? >> =20 >> >>>Also, I am quite confused about how and what to install >>> =20 >>> >>to get it working. >> =20 >> >>>IMHO, the website has a wrong approach to things. >>>=20 >>> >>> =20 >>> >>The website is out of date as I found when I first >>started with the=20 >>project. There are branches which are being currently >>updated but at a=20 >>slow pace. This is because the drivers are semi-stable >>although they=20 >>could use a lot of work cleaning them up. >> >> =20 >> >>>I have an ATI All-in-Wonder Radeon 9000 64MB (video-in, >>> =20 >>> >>tv-in, video-out,=20 >> =20 >> >>>DVI). >>> >>>What do I have to install to get TV-Out/Video-out >>> =20 >>> >>working? I am using Debian=20 >> =20 >> >>>Sarge with XFree86-4.3.0 and linux-2.6.10. Do I really >>> =20 >>> >>have to replace the X=20 >> =20 >> >>>radeon driver (works fine but tv-out) with ati.2? Or >>> =20 >>> >>theater_out and not=20 >> =20 >> >>>ati.2? If ati.2 works, why is not pushed to X upstream? >>>Or is the binary-only fglxr driver the better solution >>> =20 >>> >>by now? >> =20 >> >>>=20 >>> >>> =20 >>> >>Whatever works... gatos has the problem of not being easy >>to figure out=20 >>because just about everything everything needs a >>patch/modification to=20 >>make it work. Finding those patches isn't easy either >>since the mailling=20 >>list doesn't archive such things, I believe. >> >>Brett >> >> =20 >> >>>HS >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide >>>Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products >>> =20 >>> >>from real users. >> =20 >> >>>Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start >>> =20 >>> >>reading now. >> =20 >> >>>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D6595&alloc_id=3D14396&op=3Dclick >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Gatos-devel mailing list >>>Gat...@li... >>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gatos-devel >>>=20 >>> >>> =20 >>> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide >>Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products >>from real users. >>Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start >>reading now. >>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D6595&alloc_id=3D14396&op=3Dclick >>_______________________________________________ >>Gatos-devel mailing list >>Gat...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gatos-devel >> >> =20 >> > > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >-- >Lee Parmeter Emperor, linXos - The Flying Penguin >http://www.linXos.com >Linux Registered User #337161=20 > >'It's free. It works. Duh.'" - Eric Harrison > >"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or th= at we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpa= triotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American publi= c." =97 President Theodore Roosevelt > >"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your governm= ent when it deserves it." - Mark Twain > >God is not a republican or a democrat nor is His government a democr= acy! - Lee Parmeter > >The United States is NOT a democracy, it was founded as a Republic f= or a specific reason, to protect Liberty for all. In contrast, a demo= cracy gives Liberty to the majority only and is one of the reasons th= at the US is so divided. It is only recently that politicians have be= en calling the US a democracy! This is an absolute lie! - Lee Parmete= r > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around=20 >http://mail.yahoo.com=20 > > >------------------------------------------------------- >SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide >Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real us= ers. >Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now= . >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D6595&alloc_id=3D14396&op=3Dclick >_______________________________________________ >Gatos-devel mailing list >Gat...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gatos-devel > =20 > |
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From: Hendrik S. <ub...@st...> - 2005-02-25 16:44:01
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Am Montag, 21. Februar 2005 19:25 schrieb Brett Foster: > Whatever works... gatos has the problem of not being easy to figure out > because just about everything everything needs a patch/modification to > make it work. Finding those patches isn't easy either since the mailling > list doesn't archive such things, I believe. Gatos is really, really broken and currently of absolutely no use: Loading the km module with linux-2.6.10 and then starting XFree86-4.3.0, the system completely locks up. Loading it after X started, it does nothing. The SF.net frontend is not really suitable for searching patches (actually, it sucks pretty much :-( ). HS |
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From: Lee P. <le...@ya...> - 2005-02-25 16:35:05
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Brett: Personally, I gave up on Gatos about a year ago, about the time FC2 was release. Xorg support was just not there for a long time, and may still not be available in binary format. I decided during this period to NEVER buy an ATI AIW card again. In fact I pulled my AIW adapter out of my machine and bought a generic 9600PRO card and an Asus TV card. I will continue to buy an ATI video adapter but without the TV IN support. There are several TV cards available for less than $50 that are well supported on Linux and V4L compatible. It is encourgaging to see that ATI has taken the ball and is at least developing current video drivers for Xorg and Linux. I have 3D working on both FC3 and Ubuntu with ATI's drivers. However, until ATI provides a full suite of packages for their AIW cards, I will NOT buy them anymore period! Lee --- Brett Foster <fo...@uo...> wrote: > *sigh* forgot to cc mailling list. > > Hendrik Sattler wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >Looking at the website, some (all?) subprojects seem to > be dead: > >http://gatos.sourceforge.net/drm-kernel.php > > It says: > > "but it is planned for merging into regular DRI tree." > > and: > > "was last modified by Vladimir Dergachev 12:11pm > Sunday, August 18th 2002" > >Can anyone update the website to reflect the actual > status, 2,5 years later? > > > >Also, I am quite confused about how and what to install > to get it working. > >IMHO, the website has a wrong approach to things. > > > > > The website is out of date as I found when I first > started with the > project. There are branches which are being currently > updated but at a > slow pace. This is because the drivers are semi-stable > although they > could use a lot of work cleaning them up. > > >I have an ATI All-in-Wonder Radeon 9000 64MB (video-in, > tv-in, video-out, > >DVI). > > > >What do I have to install to get TV-Out/Video-out > working? I am using Debian > >Sarge with XFree86-4.3.0 and linux-2.6.10. Do I really > have to replace the X > >radeon driver (works fine but tv-out) with ati.2? Or > theater_out and not > >ati.2? If ati.2 works, why is not pushed to X upstream? > >Or is the binary-only fglxr driver the better solution > by now? > > > > > Whatever works... gatos has the problem of not being easy > to figure out > because just about everything everything needs a > patch/modification to > make it work. Finding those patches isn't easy either > since the mailling > list doesn't archive such things, I believe. > > Brett > > >HS > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- > >SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > >Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products > from real users. > >Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start > reading now. > >http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > >_______________________________________________ > >Gatos-devel mailing list > >Gat...@li... > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gatos-devel > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products > from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start > reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Gatos-devel mailing list > Gat...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gatos-devel > ===== -- Lee Parmeter Emperor, linXos - The Flying Penguin http://www.linXos.com Linux Registered User #337161 'It's free. It works. Duh.'" - Eric Harrison "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." President Theodore Roosevelt "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it." - Mark Twain God is not a republican or a democrat nor is His government a democracy! - Lee Parmeter The United States is NOT a democracy, it was founded as a Republic for a specific reason, to protect Liberty for all. In contrast, a democracy gives Liberty to the majority only and is one of the reasons that the US is so divided. It is only recently that politicians have been calling the US a democracy! This is an absolute lie! - Lee Parmeter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
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From: <mmi...@bl...> - 2005-02-25 15:47:28
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Hi there, tried really hard to find the problem I hav in the list without success, So hopefully someone else reading this here knows about: After doing the xmkmf <XORG-6.8.2-BUILD-DIR> in the ati.4.4.0 directory and starting make, compiling stops during building r128_accel.c, with following error: " In file included from /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/GL/dri/xf86dri.h:43, from /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/GL/dri/dri.h:40, from r128.h:60, from r128_accel.c:83: /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/xf86drm.h:39:17: drm.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden In file included from /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/GL/dri/xf86dri.h:43, from /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/GL/dri/dri.h:40, from r128.h:60, from r128_accel.c:83: /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/xf86drm.h:222: error: parse error before "drm_context_t " ... (lots of errors follow) Apparently, something is missing on my SuSE 9.2-system, but what ? I searched for the missing "drm.h" and found files with this name at several places, (/usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build is the X-Server build-shadowdirectory): " /usr/src/kernel-modules/drm/drm.h /usr/src/kernel-modules/fglrx/drm.h /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/xc/extras/drm/shared/drm.h /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/lib/GL/dri/drm/drm.h /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/extras/drm/shared/drm.h /usr/src/linux-2.6.8-24/include/config/drm.h /usr/src/linux-2.6.8-24.11/drivers/char/drm/drm.h /usr/src/linux-2.6.8-24.11/include/config/drm.h /usr/X11R6/lib/Server/include/drm.h " What is wrong with my settings ? It cannot be so bad, the x-server build was quite seamless. Thanks a lot for any help - it is really appreciated, Marc |
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From: Marc M. <Mar...@so...> - 2005-02-25 15:37:41
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Hi there, tried really hard to find the problem I hav in the list without success, So hopefully someone else reading this here knows about: After doing the xmkmf <XORG-6.8.2-BUILD-DIR> in the ati.4.4.0 directory and starting make, compiling stops during building r128_accel.c, with following error: " In file included from /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/GL/dri/xf86dri.h:43, from /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/GL/dri/dri.h:40, from r128.h:60, from r128_accel.c:83: /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/xf86drm.h:39:17: drm.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden In file included from /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/GL/dri/xf86dri.h:43, from /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/GL/dri/dri.h:40, from r128.h:60, from r128_accel.c:83: /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/xf86drm.h:222: error: parse error before "drm_context_t " ... (lots of errors follow) Apparently, something is missing on my SuSE 9.2-system, but what ? I searched for the missing "drm.h" and found files with this name at several places, (/usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build is the X-Server build-shadowdirectory): " /usr/src/kernel-modules/drm/drm.h /usr/src/kernel-modules/fglrx/drm.h /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/xc/extras/drm/shared/drm.h /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/lib/GL/dri/drm/drm.h /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/extras/drm/shared/drm.h /usr/src/linux-2.6.8-24/include/config/drm.h /usr/src/linux-2.6.8-24.11/drivers/char/drm/drm.h /usr/src/linux-2.6.8-24.11/include/config/drm.h /usr/X11R6/lib/Server/include/drm.h " What is wrong with my settings ? It cannot be so bad, the x-server build was quite seamless. Thanks a lot for any help - it is really appreciated, Marc |
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From: Marc M. <Mar...@so...> - 2005-02-24 15:46:00
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Hi,
the compilation of the r200_branch aborts with following error compiling r128_accel.c:
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In file included from /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/GL/dri/xf86dri.h:43,
from /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/GL/dri/dri.h:40,
from r128.h:60,
from r128_accel.c:83:
/usr/src/packages/SOURCES/build/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/xf86drm.h:39:17: drm.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
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So apparently drm.h is missing - do I have to install some other package to get this away ?
Thanks in advance,
Marc
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