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Ken Jackson wrote:

>Thank you for replying Spence.  I think meet your requirements.
>
>  $ rpm -qa | grep -E '(avv|ati.2|ffm)'
>  avview-0.12.0-1mdk
>  ati.2-4.3.20030708-1mdk
>  ffmpeg-0.4.6-2mdk
>  libffmpeg0.4.6-0.4.6-2mdk
>  libffmpeg0.4.6-devel-0.4.6-2mdk
>
>
>I also looked through the source code a little.  File avview.scp
>reads the settings from file ~/.avview_state, or maybe ~/.avview.
>This is line 514 of avview.scp:
>
>    if { $avview_version != $saved_avview_version } {
>        ...
>        raise .setup
>
>Whatever is happening in that block, it exits INSTEAD of letting
>me edit data.  There should be an option like --create-config-file
>or similar.
>
>Can you post a valid .avview_state configuration file for me to
>experiment with?  I'm guessing that if I have an initial version
>of this file I can make it work.
>
>-Ken
>
>
>Spencer writes:
> > Ken Jackson wrote:
> > 
> > >I installed avview-0.12.0-1mdk.i586.rpm from
> > >ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586.
> > >
> > >When I run start_avview, it pops up a message saying:
> > >
> > >  It appears you have not run AVview 0.12.0 before.  
> > >  Please go through all settings and adjust them as appropriate.
> > >
> > >When I click OK it shuts down without giving me a chance to adjust
> > >anything.  How can I set the initial settings?
> > >
> > >I'm using an ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon, which worked with a
> > >previous version of AVview.
> > >
> > >-Ken
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > Did you install ati.2 from contribs? You will also need ffmpeg? 
> > Alternately, if you want video capture, use avview-0.12.0, ffmpeg-avview 
> > and ati.2-4.3-exp10 from the gatos.sourceforge.net download site.
> > 
> > Happy New Year
> > Spence
>
>.
>
>  
>
Just delete your ~/.avview_state file. Make sure to restart your 
x-server ( reboot is easiest ). Restart avview and go through the setup. 
If it doesn't want to start, look for error messages in your XF86 
config.log and /usr/X11R6/bin/xvinfo.

Spence

Thank you for replying Spence.  I think meet your requirements.

  $ rpm -qa | grep -E '(avv|ati.2|ffm)'
  avview-0.12.0-1mdk
  ati.2-4.3.20030708-1mdk
  ffmpeg-0.4.6-2mdk
  libffmpeg0.4.6-0.4.6-2mdk
  libffmpeg0.4.6-devel-0.4.6-2mdk


I also looked through the source code a little.  File avview.scp
reads the settings from file ~/.avview_state, or maybe ~/.avview.
This is line 514 of avview.scp:

    if { $avview_version != $saved_avview_version } {
        ...
        raise .setup

Whatever is happening in that block, it exits INSTEAD of letting
me edit data.  There should be an option like --create-config-file
or similar.

Can you post a valid .avview_state configuration file for me to
experiment with?  I'm guessing that if I have an initial version
of this file I can make it work.

-Ken


Spencer writes:
 > Ken Jackson wrote:
 > 
 > >I installed avview-0.12.0-1mdk.i586.rpm from
 > >ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586.
 > >
 > >When I run start_avview, it pops up a message saying:
 > >
 > >  It appears you have not run AVview 0.12.0 before.  
 > >  Please go through all settings and adjust them as appropriate.
 > >
 > >When I click OK it shuts down without giving me a chance to adjust
 > >anything.  How can I set the initial settings?
 > >
 > >I'm using an ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon, which worked with a
 > >previous version of AVview.
 > >
 > >-Ken
 > >  
 > >
 > >
 > Did you install ati.2 from contribs? You will also need ffmpeg? 
 > Alternately, if you want video capture, use avview-0.12.0, ffmpeg-avview 
 > and ati.2-4.3-exp10 from the gatos.sourceforge.net download site.
 > 
 > Happy New Year
 > Spence

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Anthony DiSante wrote:

> Hello,
>
> When using hardware-accelerated 3D, should the system CPU be 100% utilized?
>
> On my system (Radeon AIW 7200 with gatos drivers), glxgears at the default
> size gets 940 FPS, and the CPU is 30% utilized.  At full-screen, I get 85
> FPS, and the CPU is 2% utilized.
>

Keep in mind that kernel accounting of time it spends is not perfect.

Also, I do not think cpu usage has to be 100%. Indeed, if the performance
of 3d application is limited by the graphics card then it stands to reason
that it will spend some time waiting for the card to finish drawing.

Of course, smart apps can use this time to do something useful, but
glxgears is just for testing.

                               best

                                 Vladimir Dergachev

> I had thought that hardware-accelerated 3D would not use the CPU fully, but
> over on this thread, Tim McCoy says otherwise:
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&c2coff=1&safe=off&threadm=535ab17d.0312260330.7594fd24%40posting.google.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fdq%3D%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dcomp.os.linux.hardware%26c2coff%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26selm%3D535ab17d.0312260330.7594fd24%2540posting.google.com
>
> ...leading me to believe that I *should* in fact be getting better
> framerates out of my 7200, and if it were performing to its full potential,
> then my CPU would be spiked at 100%.
>
> What's the truth here?  When you run glxgears, does it put your CPU at 100%?
>
> Thanks,
> Anthony
> http://nodivisions.com/
>
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Hello,

When using hardware-accelerated 3D, should the system CPU be 100% utilized?

On my system (Radeon AIW 7200 with gatos drivers), glxgears at the default 
size gets 940 FPS, and the CPU is 30% utilized.  At full-screen, I get 85 
FPS, and the CPU is 2% utilized.

I had thought that hardware-accelerated 3D would not use the CPU fully, but 
over on this thread, Tim McCoy says otherwise:

http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&c2coff=1&safe=off&threadm=535ab17d.0312260330.7594fd24%40posting.google.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fdq%3D%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dcomp.os.linux.hardware%26c2coff%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26selm%3D535ab17d.0312260330.7594fd24%2540posting.google.com

...leading me to believe that I *should* in fact be getting better 
framerates out of my 7200, and if it were performing to its full potential, 
then my CPU would be spiked at 100%.

What's the truth here?  When you run glxgears, does it put your CPU at 100%?

Thanks,
Anthony
http://nodivisions.com/

Ken Jackson wrote:

>I installed avview-0.12.0-1mdk.i586.rpm from
>ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586.
>
>When I run start_avview, it pops up a message saying:
>
>  It appears you have not run AVview 0.12.0 before.  
>  Please go through all settings and adjust them as appropriate.
>
>When I click OK it shuts down without giving me a chance to adjust
>anything.  How can I set the initial settings?
>
>I'm using an ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon, which worked with a
>previous version of AVview.
>
>-Ken
>
>
>
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>  
>
Did you install ati.2 from contribs? You will also need ffmpeg? 
Alternately, if you want video capture, use avview-0.12.0, ffmpeg-avview 
and ati.2-4.3-exp10 from the gatos.sourceforge.net download site.

Happy New Year
Spence

Hi,
Tuesday, 30 December, 2003, 19:01:32, Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
> Hello,

> I have an ATI Rage Fury Pro VIVO (based on Rage 128 Pro, 32M, video
> in/out, no TV tuner). And a RH9-based distro.

> I want to use video input, and besides, to try and get 3d accel working
> (without GATOS, if I load DRI in the X config file, I get periodic lockups
> wih no apparent reason - not even in 3D apps, just at any moment in X;
> they don't appear if I don't load DRI).
if this happens with regular official DRI version then you
should perhaps bugreport it to the DRI mailing list (not sure
where it lives right now)

> The video input is the more important task. And I live in Russia. Hence,
> question 1: will it support at least PAL, if not SECAM? (It does in
> Windows, although I'm not sure about SECAM).
If your hardware is able to handle it then it should work somehow.
There were postings from someone living in France about r128 some
while ago.

> Question 2. Should I just untar the .tgz into the XFree86 dir, with no
> change to the config file, i.e. the driver name?
yes.

> Question 3. Should I install the drm-kernel module? The Web page speaks of
> Radeons, but my card is no Radeon.
if you don't want DRI then you don't need respective kernel module.
DRI is definitely not necessary for watching tv-in.
-- 
Best regards,
 Nikolai Zhubr

> Thanks in advance for any answers!

> Yours, Mikhail Ramendik



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I installed avview-0.12.0-1mdk.i586.rpm from
ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586.

When I run start_avview, it pops up a message saying:

  It appears you have not run AVview 0.12.0 before.  
  Please go through all settings and adjust them as appropriate.

When I click OK it shuts down without giving me a chance to adjust
anything.  How can I set the initial settings?

I'm using an ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon, which worked with a
previous version of AVview.

-Ken

Hello,

I have an ATI Rage Fury Pro VIVO (based on Rage 128 Pro, 32M, video
in/out, no TV tuner). And a RH9-based distro.

I want to use video input, and besides, to try and get 3d accel working
(without GATOS, if I load DRI in the X config file, I get periodic lockups
wih no apparent reason - not even in 3D apps, just at any moment in X;
they don't appear if I don't load DRI).

The video input is the more important task. And I live in Russia. Hence,
question 1: will it support at least PAL, if not SECAM? (It does in
Windows, although I'm not sure about SECAM).

Question 2. Should I just untar the .tgz into the XFree86 dir, with no
change to the config file, i.e. the driver name?

Question 3. Should I install the drm-kernel module? The Web page speaks of
Radeons, but my card is no Radeon.

Thanks in advance for any answers!

Yours, Mikhail Ramendik

Take a look at http://www.mepis.org/node/view/737

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On Sun, 28 Dec 2003, Anthony DiSante wrote:

> Thomas Gereke wrote:
> >>Well I don't do any gl programming, so I can't help you there... but could
> >>you do me a favor?  I've also got a Radeon AIW (aka 7200), and I think it
> >>isn't performing 3D very well.  I have a Pentium-III 850MHz with 512MB RAM,
> >>and I'm running at 1280x1024 and 24bit color, and in glxgears I get 937FPS
> >>at the default size, and 85FPS full-screen.  Can you tell me your system
> >>specs / resolution / bit depth, and what framerates you get?
> >
> >
> > I'm running at 1024x768 and 16bit. glxgears runs with 1300FPS and 220FPS
> > fullscreen.
> > Look at glxinfo. There must be direct rendering: yes. The Radeon 7200 is not
> > very fast with 3D....
>
> It's definitely using direct rendering; without it, I only get about 80 FPS
> at the default glxgears window size.  And I too get ~1200 FPS when I drop
> down to 16bit color.  I just thought/hoped that maybe this card could do better.

Well, I just run a test on my system  (dual Athlon 1900+, Radeon AIW 7500)
and I get 1500 fps for glxgears in standard (small) window and 148 fps
when maximized to fullscreen.

                        best

                          Vladimir Dergachev

>
> -Anthony
> http://nodivisions.com/
>
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On Sun 28 December 2003 15:00, Anthony DiSante wrote:
>
> Anyway, I'm concerned about the color depth.  I do some digital
> photography, and had always thought that 16bit color was
> inadequate.  Any thoughts on that?  Can anyone point me to some
> research/commentary stating otherwise?

Well, for any kind of graphical work I wouldn't want to use anything=20
less than 8 bits per channel. The Matrox Parhelia even does 32-bit=20
with 10 bits per channel, which is nice. Ofcourse, if you're=20
playing an action game, you'll probably want more frames per second=20
rather than more bitdepth and less bandig, so 16-bit is probably a=20
better choice then.

It all depends on the application. Unfortunately the RandR X=20
extension doesn't support depth switching. An alternative, if you=20
have enough (virtual) memory, is to run two X servers. You will=20
only get 3D acceleration on one though. That's what I do, I run 
1024x768x16 accelerated server for games, and a second 1920x1440x32=20
unaccelerated server for the rest. Works fine, but ofcourse it's a=20
bit wasteful as you're only using one X server at the time. Then=20
again, the other can just be swapped out to disk when it's not in=20
use.

Lourens
--=20
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Thomas Gereke wrote:
>>Well I don't do any gl programming, so I can't help you there... but could 
>>you do me a favor?  I've also got a Radeon AIW (aka 7200), and I think it 
>>isn't performing 3D very well.  I have a Pentium-III 850MHz with 512MB RAM, 
>>and I'm running at 1280x1024 and 24bit color, and in glxgears I get 937FPS 
>>at the default size, and 85FPS full-screen.  Can you tell me your system 
>>specs / resolution / bit depth, and what framerates you get?
> 
> 
> I'm running at 1024x768 and 16bit. glxgears runs with 1300FPS and 220FPS
> fullscreen.
> Look at glxinfo. There must be direct rendering: yes. The Radeon 7200 is not
> very fast with 3D....

It's definitely using direct rendering; without it, I only get about 80 FPS 
at the default glxgears window size.  And I too get ~1200 FPS when I drop 
down to 16bit color.  I just thought/hoped that maybe this card could do better.

-Anthony
http://nodivisions.com/

Vladimir Dergachev wrote:
>>Well I don't do any gl programming, so I can't help you there... but could
>>you do me a favor?  I've also got a Radeon AIW (aka 7200), and I think it
>>isn't performing 3D very well.  I have a Pentium-III 850MHz with 512MB RAM,
>>and I'm running at 1280x1024 and 24bit color, and in glxgears I get 937FPS
>>at the default size, and 85FPS full-screen.  Can you tell me your system
>>specs / resolution / bit depth, and what framerates you get?
> 
> 
> I think your system is working just fine.. Try reducing the resolution to
> 16 bit, the frame rate should go right up.

Yeah, I've tried it at 16bit and then it goes from ~940 FPS to ~1220 FPS. 
But since I see lots of people saying they're getting ~3500 FPS with other 
cards, I thought maybe there was a problem with mine.  But I guess my card 
is getting pretty old ("old" in this industry is a year or two, after all...).

Anyway, I'm concerned about the color depth.  I do some digital photography, 
and had always thought that 16bit color was inadequate.  Any thoughts on 
that?  Can anyone point me to some research/commentary stating otherwise?

Thanks,
Anthony
http://nodivisions.com/

Anthony DiSante wrote:
> Well I don't do any gl programming, so I can't help you there... but co=
uld=20
> you do me a favor?  I've also got a Radeon AIW (aka 7200), and I think =
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> at the default size, and 85FPS full-screen.  Can you tell me your syste=
m=20
> specs / resolution / bit depth, and what framerates you get?

I'm running at 1024x768 and 16bit. glxgears runs with 1300FPS and 220FPS
fullscreen.
Look at glxinfo. There must be direct rendering: yes. The Radeon 7200 is =
not
very fast with 3D....

Thomas

I run ATI rage pro 128 with Avview and the TV screen is scrambled for the=
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On Sat, 27 Dec 2003, Francisco L Fernandez wrote:

> Hi:
>
> I have exactly the same behaviour in my system. Mine is built around Slac=
kware 9.1 with ati.2 drivers for 4.3 - experimental 13 and corresponding dr=
m-kernel, km v0.5.0 and latest version of avview. My card is an AIW Rage 12=
8 pro (32 MB) AGP PAL.
>
> It seems that Rage 128 pro is not included in your normal debugging tests=
 as your comments in the home page seem to confirm. There was an apparent i=
ncompatibility between km and DRI that, as far as I know, is not solved yet=
, after at least two years. I don't know if you have even plans of improvin=
g the code, or only maintain the code base along XFree releases, concentrat=
ing your developing efforts in new Radeon based cards.

It is true that I am not testing Rage 128 cards very often (takes time to
swap them, and I don't want to touch production system too often),
however, the incompatibility you mention is due to hardware - both km and
dri drm use the same registers on Rage128.. The easiest way to get around
this is to not load rage128 drm module at all.

>
> Well I am ready to help you as a beta tester for this type of AIW card.

Could you let me know which binaries posted on the page work for you ?
If something broke in Rage128 driver it would help to know when.

                       thank you

                             Vladimir Dergachev

>
> Best Regards
>
> Francisco L. Fern=E1ndez
>
> >From: Vladimir Dergachev <volodya@mi...>
> >Re: The garbled background after quitting xawtv
> >2003-12-02 17:49
>
> > No, I have not heard of this issue before, could be some problems with
> > Redhat compiler.
>
> > Does AVview exhibits the same problem ?
> >
> >                          best
> >
> >                             Vladimir Dergachev
> >
> > On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Mr.Cookie wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I remember that issue was reported here few times, but I can't find
> >> out, if there is any conclusion.
> >>
> >> I have upgraded to exp 11 binaries for 4.3.0 on my RH9 AIW Pro 128. I
> >> haven't really noticed any difference from exp 10.
> >>
> >> After quitting the xawtv the background bitmaps becomes garbled, which
> >> could be solved by switching to text console and back ( but then the
> >> xawtv is not able to produce correct picture until the X11 is fully
> >> relaunched).
> >>
> >> Is that rh9 specific problem (their backports)? Is that XFree 4.3.0
> >> issue? I can try compile ati.2 myself, but I don't know where to look
> >> for the problem. Or is it something in xawtv?
> >>
> >> thanks for any hint.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mr.Cookie
> >> mailto: mrcookie@ce...
>
>
> -------

On Sat, 27 Dec 2003, Anthony DiSante wrote:

> Thomas Gereke wrote:
> > I'm running Radeon AIW (Radeon 7200) with Xfree86 4.3 and ati.2 experimental
> > 13.
> >
> > TV in is working fine. glxgears is accelerated fine.
>
> Well I don't do any gl programming, so I can't help you there... but could
> you do me a favor?  I've also got a Radeon AIW (aka 7200), and I think it
> isn't performing 3D very well.  I have a Pentium-III 850MHz with 512MB RAM,
> and I'm running at 1280x1024 and 24bit color, and in glxgears I get 937FPS
> at the default size, and 85FPS full-screen.  Can you tell me your system
> specs / resolution / bit depth, and what framerates you get?

I think your system is working just fine.. Try reducing the resolution to
16 bit, the frame rate should go right up.

                          best

                            Vladimir Dergachev

>
> Thanks,
> Anthony
> http://nodivisions.com/
>
>
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Hi:

I have exactly the same behaviour in my system. Mine is built around Slackw=
are 9.1 with ati.2 drivers for 4.3 - experimental 13 and corresponding drm-=
kernel, km v0.5.0 and latest version of avview. My card is an AIW Rage 128 =
pro (32 MB) AGP PAL.

It seems that Rage 128 pro is not included in your normal debugging tests a=
s your comments in the home page seem to confirm. There was an apparent inc=
ompatibility between km and DRI that, as far as I know, is not solved yet, =
after at least two years. I don't know if you have even plans of improving =
the code, or only maintain the code base along XFree releases, concentratin=
g your developing efforts in new Radeon based cards.

Well I am ready to help you as a beta tester for this type of AIW card.

Best Regards

Francisco L. Fern=E1ndez

>From: Vladimir Dergachev <volodya@mi...>
>Re: The garbled background after quitting xawtv =20
>2003-12-02 17:49

> No, I have not heard of this issue before, could be some problems with
> Redhat compiler.
=20
> Does AVview exhibits the same problem ?
>=20
>                          best
>=20
>                             Vladimir Dergachev
>=20
> On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Mr.Cookie wrote:
>>=20
>> Hi,
>>
>> I remember that issue was reported here few times, but I can't find
>> out, if there is any conclusion.
>>
>> I have upgraded to exp 11 binaries for 4.3.0 on my RH9 AIW Pro 128. I
>> haven't really noticed any difference from exp 10.
>>
>> After quitting the xawtv the background bitmaps becomes garbled, which
>> could be solved by switching to text console and back ( but then the
>> xawtv is not able to produce correct picture until the X11 is fully
>> relaunched).
>>
>> Is that rh9 specific problem (their backports)? Is that XFree 4.3.0
>> issue? I can try compile ati.2 myself, but I don't know where to look
>> for the problem. Or is it something in xawtv?
>>
>> thanks for any hint.
>>
>> --
>> Mr.Cookie
>> mailto: mrcookie@ce...

Thomas Gereke wrote:
> I'm running Radeon AIW (Radeon 7200) with Xfree86 4.3 and ati.2 experimental
> 13.
> 
> TV in is working fine. glxgears is accelerated fine.

Well I don't do any gl programming, so I can't help you there... but could 
you do me a favor?  I've also got a Radeon AIW (aka 7200), and I think it 
isn't performing 3D very well.  I have a Pentium-III 850MHz with 512MB RAM, 
and I'm running at 1280x1024 and 24bit color, and in glxgears I get 937FPS 
at the default size, and 85FPS full-screen.  Can you tell me your system 
specs / resolution / bit depth, and what framerates you get?

Thanks,
Anthony
http://nodivisions.com/

Scott Alfter wrote:

>I'm putting a MythTV box together and decided to use a Radeon VE clone I had
>lying around.  This card has two outputs: a VGA output for a monitor and a
>mini-DIN output with both S-video and composite outputs.  After a few false
>starts with the provided ati.2 binaries, I finally saw something that said
>you need to pull the source from CVS to build a driver with TV-out support.
>
>Once I had that straightened out, S-video out worked just great (tested on
>the S-video in on an AIW Radeon in a WinXP box) while the cable from the KVM
>was still plugged into the VGA port.  When I moved the computer into the
>living room (where the only display is a TV with component, S-video, and
>composite inputs), the X server decided to quit working.  Checking the log
>file showed that it knew there was no VGA monitor plugged in...and for
>whatever reason, it was refusing to work.
>
>Fixing this misbehavior turned out to be trivial:
>  
>

Works fine on my AIW7500 (except a "blinking" line, but not really a 
problem)

Thanks & Merry Christmas

Bye

Hello,

I'm running Radeon AIW (Radeon 7200) with Xfree86 4.3 and ati.2 experimen=
tal
13.

TV in is working fine. glxgears is accelerated fine.

Now I have a problem with my open gl software:
It seems the function glXSwapBuffers() doesn't work correct.
It seems that everything is rendered directly to the frontbuffer.
The program first clears the screen and then renders a scence. The scene =
then
flickers as you can see the black background for a short time.
If I don't call glXSwapBuffers() the screen remains black and if I call i=
t only
once it flickers like above - and the scene is animated!
So it seems the first call is necessary. May be the pointers to front and=
 back
buffers are not adjusted correctly?

The flickering is also visible in other open gl applications. My program
works fine with other hardware or with Xfree86 4.2 (accelerated by dri).

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Thomas

> > *** the image is not stable.. it goes a little bit up and down. I've
> > already tried to change european-west to italy, france, ireland,
> > east-europe, ... but no succes. I live in Belgium.
> > 
> 
> Try changing the interlace setting in avview. I believe default is 0 and
> I use 1. That fixed this problem for me (in The Netherlands).

It works, thanks.

-- 
utopia <ut...@ge...>
utopia

Lewis sn wrote:
> Hi all,
> I installed ati.2 and avview. I could run avview with no problem. But I 
> didnot get the sound. I had two video cards in the box. I disabled the 
> onboard one in bios. The RH9 will found them all but I only use the 
> Creative one, it uses emu10k1. I could test the sound use 
> redhat-config-soundcard. How cannot I get the sound in TV? btw, I use 
> Radeon 7200. Thanks.

I had the same problem (and happen to have an emu10k1 soundcard and a Radeon 
7200, too), and it turned out that I wasn't actually using the Alsa sound 
drivers on my system.  They weren't even installed properly, and I was using 
the OSS drivers instead.

Run Xmms and go to the preferences section, set Output Plugin to Alsa, and 
see if it plays.  And/or, try to run:

	aplay <some_file.wav>

If those don't work, then you might not have Alsa installed; that was the 
problem in my case.

-Anthony
http://nodivisions.com/

Hi list,
I'm using the tv_output branch of CVS without many
problems. Still, I've got 2 of them (problems), even
if small, but I would like to know some opinions.
The first and most important is that, using mplayer or
xine to watch movies, I get randomply some slowing
down effect. Reading mplayer docs I understand that
this should be caused by ati.2 vsync feature which is
on by default; is there a simple way to disable this
feat?
The second one is less important, but annoying: the
image on the TV set is quite shifted on the right
side, and I did not find any way of moving it: is
there any?

Thanks in advance!

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Hi all,
I installed ati.2 and avview. I could run avview with no problem. But I 
didnot get the sound. I had two video cards in the box. I disabled the 
onboard one in bios. The RH9 will found them all but I only use the Creative 
one, it uses emu10k1. I could test the sound use redhat-config-soundcard. 
How cannot I get the sound in TV? btw, I use Radeon 7200. Thanks.

Lewis

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