I was shocked when Mike Wallace was interviewing Morgan Freeman on Sixty Minutes, and Freeman said that he wasn’t interested in black history “month” and asked Wallace whether he was interested in a white history month (just 12 seconds in):

Wallace demurred and said “Well, I’m Jewish.”

I was more innocent then – I was shocked. It’s like all of the Jewish people I knew (and I know many) have been hiding out.

Hahaaa! I haven’t seen much of that screenwriting here from you before. Nice job with the depiction of a typical HR bureaucrat. “Expect to get to get a call from the producer. Seriously.”

Benjamin was Sephardic and iirc his kids were raised as Christians so it’s pretty unlikely that the guy in your little playlet was actually descended from Benjamin.

That is the fly in the ointment of the Jewish slave trader narrative. Even if Jews ran the slave trade (they didn’t) today’s Jews are as responsible for what they did as white Americans are responsible for Pizzaro.

Elon Musk has pointed out Jewish organizations like ADL are anti-white. The ADL represents the collective will of Jewish people to dominate over other people.

https://time.com/6336614/tesla-and-x-face-advertiser-and-investor-fallout-over-elon-musks-controversial-post/

Steve, if you and other conservative social media stars don’t support Elon Musk, then he is going to get cancelled and no one will dare to challenge Jewish power again. They will feel enboldened to end democracy through vote rigging. We must support Elon to save democracy in America.

Black HR Lady: You gon’ have to wait until my lotion dries ’til I can put you down as anything, hun.

I don’t follow these people, in any sense of the word “follow”. So, I ask, is this John Podhorhetz’s normal take on things, that Jews are not White?

Otherwise, he could be a little extra upset right now that…

A) Yeah, you can’t go doing that Woke stuff on OUR people! That’s not how it’s supposed to work!

B) Why aren’t there more White gentiles in this crowd?! It seems like we used to have more on our side, say, I don’t know, 50 years back, before, what was it … our immigration program…. uh, oh…

Yeah it’s a weird thing. My best guess is that Jews who think of themselves as not White mean not WASP. On “The Sopranos” Tony once claimed not to be not White too.

I seem to recall would do these little playlets more often. (“Unreal Estate”? Was that one?) This one was delightful, Steve. You should do more.

Steve, do you compare Podhoretz to Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson? Or is it just White people you call “lower class” when they advocate for their people?

You’ve said you find it declasse’ for Whites (but only Whites) to do that. So why do Jewish Billionaires get a pass, even though they’re far more aggressive in pushing the interests of their people?

Things are getting dicey for the likes of Podhoretz. I’m sure everyone has seen the recent Tweet:

Jewish communties have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them.

I’m deeply disinterested in giving the tiniest shit now about western Jewish populations coming to the disturbing realization that those hordes of minorities that they support flooding their country don’t exactly like them too much.

To which Elon replied:

You have said the actual truth.

Elon has been saying some things recently that indicate he understands our problems. He describes wokeness as a sort of suicidal mind-virus and said George Soros hates humanity and is using his wealth to destroy society. He has expressed agreement with Tweets pointing out the outsized percentage of violent crimes committed by blacks.

Why aren’t there more White gentiles in this crowd?!

Is there evidence that there weren’t plenty of white gentiles in the crowd? It’s not like everyone would be wearing a yarmulke and a prayer shawl. There are plenty of Jews you wouldn’t recognize as Jewish and vice versa. By his appearance, I assumed that Arthur Engoron, the crazy Trump-hating judge in the NY case, is Jewish but he’s not.

They have called Elon Musk “antisemite”;
To crush him they’ll try with all their might.
Ye shall know the truth;
It will free you, forsooth,
In the words of the Great Bethlehemite.

Even if Jews ran the slave trade (they didn’t) today’s Jews are as responsible for what they did as white Americans are responsible for Pizzaro.

The US doesn’t send aircraft carrier groups to protect Spain.

John Podhoretz has blue eyes.

Blue eyes = white in my book.

Mike Wallace (real name Myron Leon Wallik) made that clear what, 30 years ago when he made sure to let Morgan Freeman know he was jewish and not white, and therefor not to be held accountable for slavery, white racism, blah blah blah, in the US:

I always found it amusing that film director Norman Jewison, director of the film version of Fiddler on the Roof, isn’t Jewish, rather a Canuck of Anglo anscestry.

LOL! Yes, everywhere Jews attacking Musk as antisemitic.

J.A. “Judah P. Benjamin.

Comedy gold with that line!!

Agreed, Harry, and I wondered that too. No, of course you can’t tell easily in some crowd photos.

I was just going along with what Mr. P. wrote. I mean, why else put that correction of his up, if he didn’t think the crowd had lots of Jews in it? One would think so too, of course.

As I’ve been pointing out here for some time now, Jews have been increasingly pushing the narrative that they are not white for years. Because of course they are. And it hasn’t just been hipster Jews like Jussie Smollet’s dad, who would “Kill anyone who called him white.”

Just a couple old examples:

Evan Goldstein

“I completely agree that American Jews must recognize whiteness as an identity that has a tense relationship with Jewishness. In other words, we must reclaim our Jewishness in a way that disrupts our identification with “whiteness” in general…. The Jews are white, the Jews are not white; this is the aporetic, exilic “between” that might serve as the inaugural site of a Jewishness beyond whiteness.”
https://newvoices.org/2015/01/27/the-jews-are-not-white/
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“This is not merely a semantic issue,” Micha Danzig wrote in a column in the Forward. “Jews are not ‘white.’ We are a tribal people from the Levant. Many of our people were forcibly exiled out of and into other nations, including in Europe, where we were taken in chains and often subjected to brutal and oppressive institutional racism based on our ethnicity, tribal affiliation, culture and faith.”

Steve,
There is an article in The American Conservative that is all teed up for you and your foursome of old white guys.

Male Malaise article for readers at Unz

If Jews are not white, then why are they lumped in with whites when it comes to affirmative action and quotas. If Jews were their own thing, as Podhoretz claims, then shouldn’t Jews be counted separated and be limited to college admissions, government contracts, government jobs, voting districts based upon their percentage of the population?

What Podhoretz wants is for Jews to be counted as white when it benefits Jews but not counted as white when it disadvantages Jews.

‘“This is not merely a semantic issue,” Micha Danzig wrote in a column in the Forward. “Jews are not ‘white.’ We are a tribal people from the Levant. Many of our people were forcibly exiled out of and into other nations, including in Europe, where we were taken in chains and often subjected to brutal and oppressive institutional racism based on our ethnicity, tribal affiliation, culture and faith.”’

That’s such a distortion it’s almost funny. Most modern Europeans could make such claims with even greater validity.

The Jews certainly weren’t ‘taken to Europe in chains.’ Judaism was a faith that already existed in multiple locations in the Hellenic world, then spread across the Roman Empire, primarily by conversion. One might as well insist all Mormons came from upstate New York.

Musk could defect to China , and a million brilliant White engineers would follow

The “West “ would soon collapse . Elon could return as Emperor Elon then and start the rebuild.

Prior to WWII, they used to brag about it in their J for J books. Then they stopped mentioning it, and denounced anyone who did as an “anti-Semite.” So, I think they kinda own it.

He’s 62, and not aging well. The smart money says Commentary will cease publication when he’s eligible for Medicare, its endowment converted to his retirement account.

It seems perfectly fine for Jews to say there are antisemitic White people… they obviously exist.

Somehow though, it’s “antisemitic” for Whites to say there are anti-White Jews. Why is that?

Is the argument that anti-White Jews don’t exist? They obviously do. Or is the argument that it is simply antisemitic to criticize Jews?

It’s seems obvious that they’re using a double standard, and getting away with it. People are starting to notice.

You need to do a book of these, Des.

Aircraft carriers won’t do Israel much good. While we’re at it, brigands aren’t infiltrating Spain to murder people at music festivals.

Jews have had over 50 percent intermarriage rates for decades, likely overwhelmingly to non-Jewish whites and to Asians. So if Jews aren’t white, are half-Jews or quarter-Jews not white? It becomes ridiculous.

Jews actually did run the slave trade in Eastern Europe where the slaves where Slavs, but Americans are obsessed with blacks so they only focus on them.

Greenblatt of the ADL – “we need to put all of our brains into this tiktok problem, this generational problem – Generation Z. The issue of American support for Israel is not split left/right – it’s split young/old“.

'We have a major Tiktok problem.'

Leaked audio of ADL chief executive Jonathan Greenblatt freaking out because global youth aren't buying Israel's propaganda anymore. #Gaza pic.twitter.com/tzU02bSXAm

— Sharmine Narwani (@snarwani) November 16, 2023

Micha Danzig wrote in a column in the Forward. “Jews are not ‘white.’ We are a tribal people from the Levant. Many of our people were forcibly exiled out of and into other nations, including in Europe, where we were taken in chains and often subjected to brutal and oppressive institutional racism based on our ethnicity, tribal affiliation, culture and faith.”

Good old Shlomo Micha Yid is loaded with BS.

Jews are white when it suits their purposes, and only then. “Shape shifting.”

Hahaaa! I haven’t seen much of that screenwriting here from you before.

Steve could write the first HBD sitcom: “HR Black Lady.” I am picturing Queen Latifa for the titular role, with a canned 70’s style laugh track whooping uproariously when she hits punch lines like, “Y’all looks white to me.”

Spain also doesn’t occupy someone else’s land, whom they corral into concentration camps and then torture and slaughter by the tens of thousands. But when the Chosen People do it, you celebrate it.

Now make yourself useful for once, and tell us why Israel needs air-to-air refueling capabilities for their long-range fighter-bombers. Provided by the USA of course.

Irish Catholics are not white

John Podhoretz: “Jews Are Not White”

J.A. “Judah P. Benjamin.”

Good punchline, Steve.

Judah P. Benjamin$ would be a good name for a Jewish rapper

While I understand why you used Fiddler on the Roof as your example, I would like to note that Jewison also directed In the Heat of the Night as well as And Justice For All… Later in his career he directed the propaganda piece The Hurricane.

“HR Black Lady” would be a great character because, being black, she could speak all sorts of non-pc truths that white people have to repress. The Michael Scott character on “The Office” could get away with the same thing because he was presented as clueless.

There is a British building supplies firm called Jewson. Yer internet reports: “English (Norfolk): patronymic from any of the Middle English personal names Jew(e), Julle, or Jouet, all pet forms of Julian (mainly a female name) + -son; see Jew, Jowett .”

The famous Jowett was a 19th century Oxford don who became Master of Balliol. A wag wrote:

First come I; my name is Jowett. There’s no knowledge, but I know it. I am the Master of this college. What I don’t know isn’t knowledge.

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— Samuel Ramani (@SamRamani2) November 17, 2023

It isn’t up to Poddy to make the classification – it is something imposed from above, whether Poddy likes it or not.
Suffice to say, the only view that the colored people’s of the world have of Jews is that they are a breed of ‘super whites’, that is white people gifted with magical powers conferring on them massive wealth, massive political power and massive privilege. Any attempt by Jews to weasel out of this classification – by, perhaps, appealing to an anti European man brotherhood of the oppressed – will, surely, be met with ridicule, derision and contempt.

As the saying goes, ‘racism is all about power’.

“HR Black Lady” would be a great character because, being black, she could speak all sorts of non-pc truths that white people have to repress.

Exactly. As a foil, she would need to have a white gay assistant who is all PC and rule-following, and is always concerned that HR Black Lady is going to get them all fired and sued. I’d also throw in a white-guy character based on Steve, who is as a semi-autistic HBD nerd. He’d say things like, “Actually, Ms. HR Black Lady, there are several different kinds of Jews, you’ve got your Ashkenazis, your Sephardim, . . . .”

HR Black Lady: “Ashkewhatzis? I just aksed you if the dude was white, I don’t wanna know none of your nerd stuff about no 31 flavors of Joos, they all be just a bunch of white guys with little hats as far as I care.” [Cue: Laugh Track].

cf “The Drew Carey Show” where Drew was the assistant Director of Personnel.

“brigands aren’t infiltrating Spain to murder people at music festivals”

That happens in France.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks#Bataclan_theatre_massacre

They blow up trains in Spain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Madrid_train_bombings

In neither case did the governments respond by slaughtering civilians and small children.

The Guardian has been almost as pro-Israel as the Labour and Tory parties, but their readers aren’t having it.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/17/gaza-invasion-israel-west-crisis

“Yes, the ‘complex reality’ (as erroneously described in the Starmer article today) is the fact that in Gaza, at least 11,500 civilians have been killed, with around 4,700 of them children. The reality is that hospitals and refugee camps are regularly bombed.

If the perpetrators of these war crimes were Russians, or another Middle East state, rather than ‘friends of the West’ all the talk would be how to help the Palestinians.”

I read some articles, but not wanting to bother anyone- non-white Jews (who look white) fall into two categories:

a) Israeli nationalists who pick middle Eastern looking Jews so as to prove that Jews are indigenous middle Easterners who came back home

b) in the US- not elsewhere- race grifters & some alienated people who emotionally “don’t belong” to the Western world. In their case, it is more about identity & attitude that West is a hostile and alien place (Susan “white race is the cancer” Sontag). I can understand these psychos, but that leaves them at…what? They don’t try to establish something “non white” (whatever it means) as their cultural identity. They don’t try to racheldolezhalize phenotypically.

Never mind, it’s basically a mental condition …

A lot of White people reject their Whiteness and likely wish they had an excuse like Podhoretz’s. Wanting to identify as White is lower status than being a MAGA supporter or Brexiteer. Jews have have done everything in their power (which is substantial) to make things this way. The irony is delicious.

It’s an interesting thought. Tablet seems to be stepping into their role for right-leaning Jews.

As you’ve pointed out many times, the American racial spoils system depends almost entirely on white (or White) Americans being honest about their heritage, and not just checking the Hispanic, Native American, Two or more races, or any other box whenever they feel like. Elizabeth Warren gets away with it to this day, and all of those crazy professor ladies would have too if they just hadn’t been insane parodies of whatever ethnicity they were faking. Keep your head down and accept the benefits.

I think Jewish Americans should classify themselves however they want at any given time, as should all other whites, and bring the whole thing down. TPTB won’t start initiating genetic tests to verify self ID, because their official position is that “race is not biological.” haha.

Jews are turning from Fight To Be White to Flight From White now that whites are set to hit minority status in about 1.5 generations and the bills of attainder start passing. This is also why liberal whites are scrambling for any scrap of Native genetics they can find, or they just make it up.

Levantine Arabs are doing the same thing:

Fight To Be White

Flight From White.

Not knowing who this Benjamin was, I searched for him & and I found a double of Croatian dramatist Dimitri Demetar from the 1st half of the 19th C…

Judah Benjamin

Dimitrija Demeter

iSteve, you may know about intersectional identity, but you seem to know nothing about identity superposition.

It’s Schroedinger’s Semite: at once white and not white. You don’t know which until the Semite is presented with an opportunity to gain by one identity or the other.

Looking at John Podheretz, I’m guessing the average non Muslim, person of color looking for a leg up via a Diversity Inclusion and Equity program would say John is White about 99% of the time. Maybe John’s pissed because he thought the tribe controlled the DIE definitions but the people of color are saying otherwise.

But, in terms of jobs and the like, what matters most is the boring logic of the beancounting paperwork imposed by the federal bureaucracy on virtually all American institutions.

Yes, and like “Hispanic” they are protected class, as Jews, and like Arabs have that status over the routinely discriminated against non-semitic white; no “nonwhite” definition necessary. Though of course the Middle Easterners fleeing their whiteness demonstrates there are levels.

https://www.jewishfederations.org/fedworld/us-court-rules-jews-are-protected-race-under-civil-rights-act-of-1964-278536

https://forward.com/news/breaking-news/436256/trump-to-sign-order-recognizing-jews-as-a-nationality-protected-class/

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Jews are not white. https://commentary.org/articles/liel-leibovitz/jews-are-not-white/

Jews play the race/religion, white/not-white game, shifting as necessary, almost always contrary to actually elucidating whatever issue is at hand, and always in their interest.

When counting/quotas are brought up for Jews are a religion–so Jews can’t be counted, can’t have a quota.

When Jews feel like “affirmative action”ing–i.e. quotaing–in blacks and browns, or slapping a quota on Asians–Jews are just “white”, so that their massive over-representation is hidden, and that the white gentiles–descendants of the people who founded and settled the nation–are the most under-represented group, even more wildly underrepresented compared to available talent, is hidden.

When someone is beating on on whitey, then Jews are not white, but an “oppressed” minority.

We should just call Jews “the Chosen People”–the people who can do no wrong and are always entitled–and be done with it.

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Podhoretz is–mildly–entertaining. He’s too dumb and too passionate to be smooth and subtle and hide his atavistic impulses.

Podhoretz is a walking talking example of why it was such a disaster to allow large number of Jews to come to the United States. Huge numbers of highly capable, verbally facile people incapable of just throwing in and being loyal to regular old white bread Americans.

John is not nearly as smart as his father Norman. The apple fell quite far from the tree in his case.

I think George Soros is an instance of another type of identity superposition, but it’s too complex for me to model. Maybe Physicist Dave can help.

Jews are only white when it suits them to be white.

Having said that, it’s a major conceit of the jews to think of themselves as not white. They think that just by saying that they will escape the wrath they are bringing down on whites. It is a delusion.

The Atlantic Slave Trade began in the 1400s with the Portuguese who had contact with the Arab networks in West Africa. European Jews didn’t run the trade itself because that would require vigorous activity, the hard work of killing, and the danger of navigating the Atlantic. But they financed and profited from it.

I hope Jews get themselves reclassified as non-White and eligible for Affirmative Action goodies.

Your America 2023 scene there would go well bookended with the “Lass es, Larry!” outro (“Frolic,” a 1974 licensing library ditty by Luciano Michelini)— or perhaps a dubstep cover of Minor Threat’s “Guilty of Being White”

What year did Afr0-Euro-Asian mongrels (Jews) suddenly become ‘white’?

“infiltrating”

Does Zionism equal Jewish supremacy? When will American Jews condemn Frankfurt/New School cultural Marxism, an ideology that directly targets American and European whites from a Christian background?

Hahaaa! I haven’t seen much of that screenwriting here from you before.

In May 2020, Steve and I had dueling dialogue dumps featuring the same Covid caution couple:

https://www.unz.com/isteve/is-it-safer-to-visit-a-coffee-shop-or-a-gym/#comment-3888811 (#122, etc.)

Rollerball (1975), starring one of my favorite Jews, the awesome James Caan.

Myron Wallik – er, Mike Wallace – chose to hide his Jewishness to hide amongst the whites when it benefited him. Now, he chooses to deny his whiteness and accentuate his Jewishness… because it benefits him.

Wallace, Podhoretz, and Jews in general need to pick a fucking side and stick with it. Either quit hiding amongst the whites to obscure your over-representation in everything or stop trying to smother whites due to their “privilege.”

Here’s a little bit of info for the Jews to consider and no doubt ignore: to non-whites, Jews are seen as even more white than whitey, as everything white cranked up to another level. Whitey may not love you the way you want him to, but he’ll love you more than the darker peoples of the Earth ever will.

What about the member populations of Southern California Dark Tinted Window Culture?

Actually Spain (unlike Israel) is a full NATO member so you couldn’t be more wrong.

I assume the original tweeter meant “uninterested” or “disinclined” instead of “disinterested.” Who was it?

It’s a tad ironic that Jews are increasingly distancing themselves from “Whiteness” at the same time that their cultural pogrom against “Whiteness” is coming to full fruition. Probably not a coincidence me thinks.

I have an in-law who is an Ashkenazi Jew and she looks kinda white (except for the very curly hair) but definitely doesn’t act white. She’s a living, breathing stereotype of a female Jew- neurotic, uber liberal, domineering, ball busting and every single one of my wifes extremely WASPY family members is scared spitless of her. It’s kind of funny watching the dynamic of a Jew amongst WASPS play out at family gatherings. I’m not a wimpy, guilt ridden, ritually polite WASP so she doesn’t intimidate me in the least and doesn’t fuck with me as a result.

Exactly when did world conquering WASPS become so gutless and easily intimidated?

Now, we’ve got a screenwriter (or two, or three), and a couple of budding casting directors. I know Steve Sailer’s always wanted to direct movies, ever since he realized he was never gonna be a black golf course architect. He can do that too. Now, I know just the man to be producer. Ron Unz, are you reading this thread? Got a couple dozen million for this project?

Oh, wait, a TV sitcom? Screw that.

Yes, and as per a couple of commenters already, that “Judah P. Benjamin” line was great.

Yes, this. On 4chan there are often screenshots collected of the very same Jewish people, either claiming they are not white because Jewish, or addressing ‘fellow white people’ when they want to give a pro-poc ‘anti-racism’ lecture … here’s one set for example, ‘white’ on top, ‘not white – Jewish’ on the bottom, the same people

I once saw a photo of a slave brokerage in which the names of the owning partners were prominently displayed. One of the names was clearly Jewish (Levi or something like that). But the other one was my surname.

Soooo… I’m not casting any stones.

If I’m not responsible for the transactions of some distant relative who was born over 200 years ago, neither are any Jews.

But it would be nice to see a little honesty regarding the reality of antebellum Southern society, which may well have featured the most liberated, equal under the law, unrestricted, respected (and respectable) and un-oppressed Jewish community on earth at the time. Somehow that reality doesn’t feature much in movies about the era, although a Jewish actor quite fittingly played Ashley in Gone With the Wind.

Who wants to read Jewish “Jews are not white” misery-lit, try this:

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/why-is-whitewashing-only-ok-when-it-happens-to-jews/ (about the movie “Oppenheimer” & whitewashing Jews)

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/2030-us-census-why-jews-deserve-their-own-box-under-middle-eastern/ (why MENA is OK)

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/on-gentile-privilege-a-checklist/ (some navel gazing)

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/can-we-talk-about-hollywoods-white-washing-of-jews-now/ (Mel Gibson the Terrible)

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/13/magazine/im-jewish-and-dont-identify-as-white-why-must-i-check-that-box.html (Steve generator)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/09/22/jews-in-america-struggled-for-generations-to-become-white-now-we-must-give-up-that-privilege-to-fight-racism/ (WaPo rage, rage against white privilege)

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/if-jews-are-a-race-then-congratulations-youre-related-to-hamas/ (Jews are Arabs who are Africans)

And, this one on the nose is funny…

I always assumed that the reason for not having “Jewish” on the race/ethnicity bit of census forms was

a) (ostensible) – “that’s what the Nazis did, how could you be so hateful, it’ll be camps and trains next”

b) (actual) – “we’ll be seen as the wealthiest and most privileged group”

My uncle served with the US Navy in Spain in the early ’60s, I assume based at Rota. That base was founded in 1953, almost 30 years before Spain joined NATO.

Jews have been considered White since the founding of the Republic and before. Not only did many of them own slaves, many served in the Confederacy. Every single one I knew back in Queens, NY were as Pale as Scotsmen. Podheretz is hoping his grandkids get spared in the future Black Run America, but he should look up what blacks did to Jews during the Harlem riots and the Crown Heights riots. No, they’re not Wasps, but they’re White.

a Jewish actor quite fittingly played Ashley in Gone With the Wind.

And died in World War II, his plane probably shot down by the Luftwaffe .

As soon as he could, after completing ‘Gone With the Wind’, [Leslie Howard] returned to England to produce documentaries for the government and aided propaganda for British war effort. In May 43 the British Council sent him to Spain and Portugal for lectures to offset the Nazi propaganda. On 1 June 1943 he left Portugal on a commercial plane for London but never arrived.

Piss off Podhoretz, you Baby Boomer New York City Jew dope, you don’t even know how to spell the word repellent.

Perhaps Mr Podhoretz mispelled the word repellent in his vicious, rhetorical Twitter attack on Steve Sailer due to other reasons rather than poor spelling. Fatso Podhoretz couldn’t spell repellent correctly because he had cheeseburger grease from a delivery service which hindered his ability to type.

Tweet from 2017:

In case you were wondering whether Steve Sailer was a loathsome, reprllent racist filth, wonder no longer. https://t.co/NibEcV2umH

— John Podhoretz (@jpodhoretz) September 1, 2017

John Podhoretz is a lovely human who spreads joy wherever he goes. I had an extremely pleasant encounter with Mr. Podhoretz on Twitter in 2014. It made me bust out laughing.

Tweet from 2014:

@jpodhoretz @MarkSKrikorian Do you think mass #immigration since the 1965 immigration act has been good for the USA? #GOP #UKIP #NHpolitics

— Charles Pewitt (@CharlesPewitt) July 8, 2014

The whole thread on Twitter:

John Podhoretz: Hey, it’s Bush’s fault NY Times…Amazing it took five years for it to become a crisis!

Charles Pewitt: George W Bush and the Neo-Con shyster rodents pushed mass immigration into the US. Bush is to blame, Poddy.

John Podhoretz: Please attach a cup to your chin to catch the drool as it drops.

Charles Pewitt: My people settled and cleared the way for your filth. Poddy, you are an unassimilated, arrogant shyster rodent.

John Podhoretz: That lobotomy isn’t working very well.

Charles Pewitt: It was a mistake to allow large numbers of non-European, non-Christians to come to US. Poddy, you are filth.

John Podhoretz: Your right. Better that the continent be left to in-bred defectives like you.

Charles Pewitt: Do you think mass immigration since the 1965 Immigration Act has been good for the USA?

John Podhoretz: If it dilutes your personal vote to the point where it doesn’t matter, given that your IQ is 12, yes.

Charles Pewitt: Jon Podhoretz is a Neo-Con shyster rodent who pushes mass immigration into the US.

Jews Are Not White

Wrong card to the play, Podhoretz. It will gain you nothing but negative reactions. No one is stupid enough to fall for it.

Blue eyes = white in my book.

“…and therefor not to be held accountable for slavery, white racism, blah blah blah, in the US:”
LOL!
Again: Judah Benjamin.

It’s Schroedinger’s Semite: at once white and not white. You don’t know which until the Semite is presented with an opportunity to gain by one identity or the other.

I’ve posted a usable answer to these common questions before:

Are Jews a religious or an ethnic group?
Are Mexicans Spaniards, Indians, or mestizos?

It depends on which is more advantageous for the individual at the moment.

There is nothing about this specific to these two groups. The answer is versatile; it can conceivably be used by any other with two or more potential identities.

Are mulattoes/Coloured white or black?
Are Britons European, or sui generis?
Are Japanese Asians, or sui generis?
Are Palestinians Arabs, or indigenous?

Fun fact: the composer of “Hava Nagila” was born in Jerusalem in the 19th century. It was based on a folk tune genre called a niggun.

When will that term be changed?

The lede is buried here. This awful woman uses “white” as a pejorative which evidently is intended to detract from the merits of the message of the protest and Podhoretz’s reaction is to plead “my people aren’t white” in defense.

Par for the course.

In the Heat of the Night wasn’t propaganda?

The fallacy in all this is the pretense that Israel is criticised because people see the Jews as “white” rather than, you know, being settler-colonialists who are constantly at war with everyone around them and generally as evil as they can get away with.

But I have no doubt that many Jews in the West believe this. Many Jews think people find Israel’s actions and existence problematic because it’s Jews doing it. They really, genuinely do.

So there will be lots of this flailing about. The first to raise the issue was Bari Weiss, the turbo-Zionist who got a strangely unmolested and respectful opportunity to inveigh against “wokeness” despite everyone knowing why the Jewish Gen X lesbian was complaining and it wasn’t minority identity politics or even trans stuff that does get under the skin of many lesbian radfems over a certain age. It was because the logic of wokeness and cancel culture would make the BDM movement look like a guy holding a “John 3:16” sign by comparison. They don’t fully control social media (They certainly don’t since Der Muskening) and so having to actually justify Israel’s actions in the next war would pose a problem.

She resigned to say to other Zionists “What the hell do we do? We can only argue against wokeness”.

But also since BLM and 2020, blacks have become not window-dressing but very active and radical controllers of “ethnic issues” in America and Jews no longer have any moral authority over them. Particularly since blacks never saw Jews as oppressed “others” in America.

This last part concerned Jews and so the movement to say “Jews aren’t white” but if the intent is to protect Israel it’s totally ignorant and tone deaf. Israel is despised because of what it does and what it is not because Ashkenazim make a large amount of it’s population.

It is, however, an attempt to try to desperately gain some moral superiority in the DEI era and try to usurp and control these movements to stop them criticising Israel. (The real chosen land has been the US all along)

But as the actions of the neocons since March 2022 have shown and Israel since October 7th. Jews are really good at gaining power and influence but they aren’t infallible in wielding it. Just as the neocons put Israel in a worse position with the proxy war with Russia by making the US weaker and Russia stronger, so too has Netanyahu put Israel on a course with crisis and total condemnation. Both actions were desperate gambles to try and gain total power, total supremacy.

Overreach from arrogance is all one can say. Of course, that Jews aren’t white is what guys like Podhoretz genuinely always felt anyway.

This is the single whitest political demonstration I’ve ever seen.

The IT crew of the Obama campaign apparently not meeting the definition of a “demonstration”. Or maybe she just didn’t see it. (Anyone have that picture?)

J.A.: [Desperately] “My parents told me I had an ancestor born in the Caribbean.”

B.HR.L: [Brightening] “Really? My grandmother was from Barbados. What was your people’s name?”

I have Quaker ancestors who went from England to Rhode Island, over time, via Ireland and Barbados. I don’t think any were born in those places, but one died in the latter.

Can I call myself a Bajan?

The more I hear “white”, the more I prefer “Caucasian”. (Which is more correct than you imagine.) And it already comes with a majuscule.

Hell, I’m 100% NW-of-Munich European. This African chick matriarch is whiter than me:

I think this settles the matter:

If someone really wants the job why do they want to get into an argument with the idiot HR lady?

All my life people have spelled my name wrong, but I just let them get on with it.

I don’t care in the slightest what race they put on my paperwork. These days most people call me a gringo, but if they are very friendly they may call me gringito.

A lot of Jews are white, just like some Mexicans are white and some Mexicans are Protestants, and some Mexicans are white Protestants.

A lot of Jews believe that they may be descended from the people who were kicked out of Israel 2000 years ago, but probability doesn’t really support it.

It is a bit like saying that every time you breathe you breathe molecules of air that were part of Julius Caesar’s last breath. It might even be true, but so what?

Anomalies just prove the rule don’t they?

JPod is pale as a ghost.

Jews are white… until they aren’t.

The question is not race or skin colour. Sure, as race, most Jews are “white”. But they count themselves as a “minority” and therefore “non-white”. Plus they publish a lot of “anti-white” stuff, to distract from “anti-Jewish” stuff (i.e. “those evil whites who control all media and banks”).

Verdict: white by skin colour, non-white by self-identification and tradition (let’s be serious, “White” really means European Christian. Or used to, until recently).

When I was growing up, it would have been unimaginable to me or any of my friends, both Jewish and gentile, that ashkenazi Jews were anything other than white. If someone had claimed otherwise, the automatic reply — as spot on then as it is now — would have been “Hey, moron, look in the mirror.”

It seems like the non-whites have finally decided to not include Jews as fellow victims of the world.

It is hard to play a victim role when you are on average college educated, have at least a six-figure job, and your skin is pale. Especially when you’re trying to explain away those inconvenient facts to people who only see skin color. To most POC, a Jew is a rich white guy/gal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Barcelona_attacks

“On the afternoon of 17 August 2017, 22-year-old Younes Abouyaaqoub drove a van into pedestrians on La Rambla street in Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain killing 13 people and injuring at least 130 others, one of whom died 10 days later on 27 August. Abouyaaqoub fled the attack on foot, then killed another person in order to steal the victim’s car to make his escape.[2][3][4]

Nine hours after the Barcelona attack, five men thought to be members of the same terrorist cell drove into pedestrians in nearby Cambrils, killing one woman and injuring six others. All five of those attackers were shot and killed by police.[5]

The night before the Barcelona attack, an explosion occurred in a house in the Catalan town of Alcanar, destroying the building and killing two members of the terrorist cell, including the 40-year-old imam thought to be the mastermind.[6] The home had more than 120 gas canisters inside which police believe the cell was attempting to make into one large bomb (or three smaller bombs to be placed in three vans that they had rented) but which they accidentally detonated.[7][4]

The Prime Minister of Spain, Mariano Rajoy, called the attack in Barcelona a jihadist attack.[8] Amaq News Agency attributed indirect responsibility for the attack to the Islamic State.[9] The attacks were the deadliest in Spain since the March 2004 Madrid train bombings and the deadliest in Barcelona since the 1987 Hipercor bombing.[10] Younes Abouyaaqoub, the driver of the van in the Barcelona attack, was killed by police in Subirats, a town 31 kilometres (19 mi) west of Barcelona on 21 August.[4]”

So Spain is obligated by treaty to come to the defense of the US. I don’t see any mutual defense treaty with Israel.

Bottom line is this: Jews want group benefits, but not group responsibility. If you are going to qualify for special treatment exclusively on the basis of your membership in a group, then don’t be surprised when people blame you for the stuff about your group that they don’t like. It’s the flip side of affirmative action. Same with blacks. Every one of them is a victim of slavery and deserves eternal reparations, but when it comes to violent crime, then it’s only a small percentage who are to blame and it’s racist to treat them all like potential criminals.

It’s Schroedinger’s Semite: at once white and not white. You don’t know which until the Semite is presented with an opportunity to gain by one identity or the other.

God’s Choosin’ People

As a category the determination of Jews is creating by following specific membership algorithm more like freemasons, not following racial categories.

One of the cause célèbres in Israel at the moment is about the 21 year old Alina Palhati who was murdered by Hamas terrorists at the Nova music festival on October 7th.

She was a patriotic Israeli, soldier in the army. Her maternal grandmother is not Jewish which is one of the acceptance conditions for the Orthodox Jewish rules, so she was doing conversion to Judaism as a kind of soldier scholarship.

But, she was murdered while she was 6 months from graduation date in the conversion course. So, because the date of murder was October 7th 2023 before graduation, she has been buried in the non-Jewish cemetery.

This becomes a scandal, as her parents said it was like she has been murdered not only the first time by Hamas, but a second time by Israel. Her mother is speaking in the parliament in Jerusalem saying she should be allowed in the Jewish cemetery because that was her dream. But the cemetery authorities are saying “we cannot change the membership rules”.

If Hamas attacks 6 months later, April 7th 2024 she would been buried in the Jewish cemetery. But there they cannot disobey the impersonal algorithm which could have been derived from the Bible in some way.

In this example, the date of death determines if she is buried in the Jewish cemetery or the non-Jewish cemetery. Of course, this is not like a genetically determined categories could be changing depending on the date of your death.

It’s seems obvious that they’re using a double standard, and getting away with it. People are starting to notice.

Exactly. The MSM pearl-clutching about the tweet, pretty much proves the tweet is accurate — i.e., thinking they might not favor you, is somehow proof that you are against them.

It’s also sort of odd to begin with that it’s considered irrationally hateful merely to be “anti” something. Are Jews just so self-evidently wonderful that no single person could fail to be unreservedly in their favor? Can you at least be Jew-neutral, if you feel you don’t have enough facts to form an opinion?

I’ve posted a usable answer to these common questions before:

It depends on which is more advantageous for the individual at the moment.

In your case, your ‘usable’ answer is for the use of silly sophistry, not truth.

Here are the true, rather than ‘usable’, answers to the dumb questions you present:

Q.) Are Jews a religious or an ethnic group?
A.) Ethnic, breed, or racial group.
Q.) Are Mexicans Spaniards, Indians, or mestizos?
A.) Which Mexicans? “Mexican” is a geographical-origin category.

Are mulattoes/Coloured white or black? Black.

Are Britons European, or sui generis? European.

Are Japanese Asians, or sui generis? Asians.

Are Palestinians Arabs, or indigenous? Arabs.

Musk’s grandpa defected from Canada to S. Africa. Didn’t really turn out to be a good choice.

I don’t think a million white engineers would follow Musk to China. I don’t think Musk would go in the 1st place. Really rich guys with gadfly tendencies tend to disappear in China.

Musk is going to have to stay here and deal with the consequences of his big mouth. He has already lost a huge amount of $ on X (Twitter) and now he is going to lose even more.

I remember reading some nigro memoir–either “Manchild in the Promised Land”. or else it was “comedian” Dick Gregory’s autobiography, which he entitled “N****r” (He used the actual word).

Anyway, the author, whoever it was, was recounting as a kid when he was talking with his little brother, who had asked (or “axed” LOL) the difference between Whites and jews. Older brother said

White people is all mean and stingy. If they more mean than stingy, they White. If they more stingy than mean, they jews.

I’d take neutral but this didn’t sound neutral to me. Here is the post that Musk called the “actual truth”

Okay.

Jewish communties have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them.

I'm deeply disinterested in giving the tiniest shit now about western Jewish populations coming to the disturbing…

— Fact Checker Eric (@breakingbaht) November 15, 2023

Jewish communties [sp] have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them.

I’m deeply disinterested in giving the tiniest shit now about western Jewish populations coming to the disturbing realization that those hordes of minorities that [they?] support flooding their country don’t exactly like them too much.

Accusing Jews of pushing dialectical hatred is not neutral. It is a serious and false accusation, as is accusing the Jews of flooding the country with hordes of minorities.

Of course I see the Jews accused of these two things (and worse) on Unz every day so around here these blood libels seem commonplace and not shocking. But out in the real world these are serious, anti-Semitic accusations and Musk is (rightly) going to get punched back hard for trying to bring these fringe views out from under their rock and into mainstream discourse in America.

Upon reading Steve’s comment, I immediately leapt to my copy of Basil Cottle’s Penguin Dictionary of Surnames, in which Jewison doesn’t appear, but Jewett does, leading to the entry for Jowett. Which agrees with what you posted, which is on Ancestry.com. So Jewison is ultimately Roman. Imagine that.

Jewel(l) is given three possible derivations, from Breton, from a trade name for a jeweler, or from Joel, the last of which is Hebrew. Cowen/Cowan derives from McEwan/McOwen, which are from Gaelic names, perhaps themselves derived from Greek. (The eu- in eugenics!)

The amazing Jewsbury is disappointing– or reassuring, depending on one’s viewpoint– it’s merely a mangling of Dewsbury, in Yorkshire. (Today’s Dewsbury is itself disappointing.)

I am the Master of this college. What I don’t know isn’t knowledge.

A parodic version of this was recorded by >>ahem…<< Steely Don in the 1970s.
The weekend at the college
Didn’t turn out like you planned
The things that pass for knowledge
I can’t understand

Jeremiah 16:16 ..fishing time is over, the hunters are showing up .

Basically the answer is “It depends”, and that comes down to some combination of IIGFTJ, and IIGFM.

By 15th century standards Pizzaro was of the dastardy Spanish race. Nations were seen as Races until very recently.

I am not sure when the term White became synonomous European.

“The Naturalization Act of 1790 of the United State limited naturalization to “free White person(s) … of good character”,”. It covered Jews and people of the Eastern Mediterranean except by some quirk of legal reasoning,, Muslims.

So perhaps the Jewish intellectuals clubbing Whites using a contrived social theory are partly right in saying Whiteness is a social construct. The construct included Jews because Jews were seen as part of the European fabric.

It didn’t hurt that Jews looked like John Podhoretz. It’s a shame to see European Jews saying they’re not White. They’re literally denying their maternal bloodline.

– Musk should have found a better tweet to signal boost but its main point still stands.

– You’re right that Musk will be punished for endorsing this. Goodie for you guys.

Spain also doesn’t occupy someone else’s land, whom they corral into concentration camps and then torture and slaughter by the tens of thousands. But when the Chosen People do it, you celebrate it.
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If the Arabs on the West Bank and Gaza wanted an end to the Jewish presence there and an Arab state in those two territories, they’d have taken that deal when it was offered. They spurned it, twice. Because ‘the occupation’ is not their complaint. Their complaint is that there’s a thriving Jewish state in the eastern Mediterranean.
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There are no concentration camps, there is no torture, and the only people ‘slaughtered’ are combatants and civilians in the line of fire during battles the Arab bosses have elected to fight.
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You and your unfortunate family would benefit from living in this world and not in the world of your poisonous imagination.

There’s a silver lining to Podhoretz’s comment. It shows our upper levels of government are far more diverse then mere skin tone would indicate. The president’s cabinet is majority non-white.

To further embrace diversity lets move to a millet system and cap social representation by race. Limit Whites to 58%, Blacks 13% etc.

No, that’s what is known as “folk etymology”. Others have commented on it.

I distinctly remember reading a Norman Podhoretz (father of John Podhoretz) article years ago (early 90s I think) in which he called Jews a “White Ethnic Group.” It was an aside, not the theme of the article, but he wrote it.

He’s a satisfactory book reviewer, but otherwise was never better than mediocre at the trade he chose. His mother and father appear to have used their connections on his behalf rather than dissuading him. He has a sister, Ruthie Blum, who writes for the Jerusalem Post &c (never read her) and another sister, Naomi, who produces occasional journalism but earns her living in the PR business. Naomi’s writing is better than his. His father was a capable editor, not someone who produced original content that was all that engaging. His mother was the writer in the family. No clue what the right career for JP would have been – English teacher, perhaps.

I’ll ask my vascular surgeon why he hasn’t persuaded his partners to put up a notice at the reception desk denouncing Frankfurt School Marxism.

Jewish culture have an almost completely different categorization system than the Western racial categories, which in their view is the important categorization and doesn’t follow the Western categorization of white/black/brown/yellow which develops in the late 19th century.

It’s like how aristocrats historically were not following later racial designation, they were interested in the division between land-owners vs non-landowners. Nobody of the 19th century categorizes Pushkin because of African ancestry. The important categorization for the landowning culture of the time, is Pushkin is a gentleman or not?

If you said to Pushkin “your important category is as a person of color, not as a gentleman”, he would say “what nonsense are you saying? I am a gentleman”.

It’s only a foreign culture of the 21st century, which is re-categorizing Pushkin in terms of the racial categories. While for us to categorize in terms of concepts like serfs would seem strange, although it’s still more accurate in Russia than ethnicity
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For Jews, group identity is based in terms of particular political/religious tribes.

Their identity is special clothing, education system, songs, national festival, religion, politics, rules of the romantic life and magical thinking in cult groups.

If you want to know the identity there, you look more at their clothes and behavior, different festivals and the different kind of veneration.

For example, religious nationalists are different races, but you can always them because they have different clothing. The women are not allowed to wear trousers. Women and men are separated to different areas. They have special festivals.

Secular Jewish culture is based in worship of the state, army and patriotism. They also have behaviors from the kibbutz culture. But the racial groups are diverging and they absorb different immigrants’ groups from the second and third world.

There are also Haredim inbreeding cults which each small group has different clothes and hats to signify between each other their group and their status. They don’t believe in rational worldview, but in supernatural categories, magical thinking, effects of inbreeding.

If you asked those people if they are white or brown? It’s like discussing with religious 18th century people,.

They have such strange categories and views, they will be sometimes only controllable for a modern state because they follow an internal principle of non-violence beyond spitting. For example, they call the Israeli police Nazis and non-Jews.

Because having one’s name spelled wrong will not get your application sent to the virtual recycle bin. Being checked off as [√] White probably will.

See, this is why you don’t appreciate movies, Jonathan. You can’t figure out what’s going on.

The dude on the right in this filmed encounter is Jewish. How do we know? Read the backstory to Podhoretz’s tweet at Commentary. Podhoretz will tell you that he has to be Jewish. Ha, ha, ha.

Be safe, keep the space. https://t.co/vhiQrhOv9X

— Anti White Watch ☀️ (@AntiWhiteWatch1) November 16, 2023

Accusing Jews of pushing dialectical hatred is not neutral. It is a serious and false accusation, as is accusing the Jews of flooding the country with hordes of minorities.

Let’s imagine there are Jews (and others) “flooding the country with hordes of minorities”. Should there be a penalty paid by those Jews (and others) or not? And if so, what should it be?

https://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-we-can-replace-them/

We Can Replace Them


In Georgia, a chance to rebuke white nationalism.

By Michelle Goldberg, Opinion Columnist, Oct. 29, 2018

For a few hours on Saturday morning, I felt good about America. I was at a smallish rally in the Atlanta suburb of Riverdale, listening to Democratic politicians including Senator Kamala Harris and Georgia’s Stacey Abrams, who could become the first African-American female governor in American history.

Right now America is tearing itself apart as an embittered white conservative minority clings to power, terrified at being swamped by a new multiracial polyglot majority. The divide feels especially stark in Georgia, where the midterm election is a battle between Trumpist reaction and the multicultural America whose emergence the right is trying, at all costs, to forestall.

“Any time there is progress made there will always be moments of retrenchment,” Abrams said to me later on Saturday. But, she added, “what I am more excited about is the counterforce that we’re seeing in the number of people running for office who represent a much more forward-looking, progressive vision.”

Accusing Jews of pushing dialectical hatred is not neutral. It is a serious and false accusation, as is accusing the Jews of flooding the country with hordes of minorities.

Are they both false because you feel it implies *all* Jews are doing these things (which of course they aren’t), or because you feel *no* Jews are doing these things?

Comedy gold with that line!!

You mean “Comedy (Confederate) gold with that line.”

Now more historically accurate.

The IT crew of the Obama campaign apparently not meeting the definition of a “demonstration”. Or maybe she just didn’t see it. (Anyone have that picture?)

This one?
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/04/scoop-white-kids-work-obama/

That’s because they are not white.

Race is both a biological and social construct. You need to have European DNA to be biologically White, but socially, you can’t be a Latin American of Spanish or Portuguese ancestry. You can’t be Ashkenazi. You can’t be Romani. You also can’t have any amount of non-European DNA.

I don’t care what the woke government says. American culture operates on hypodescent. You belong to whichever segment of your DNA has the lowest social status, with Whites at the top and Abos at the bottom. Blacks are 2nd lowest status. I presume Ashkenazi Jews are 2nd highest status, because they have light skin, high socioecomic status, and some White ancestry, but they are not White.

What’s unclear is which groups have higher status than which other groups among the “middle-status” races: East Asians, Subcons, Hispanics, Native Americans, and Polynesians. If someone is half East Asian and half Hispanic, are they East Asian or Hispanic? What about half Native American and half Maori?

I’m guessing Steve has the old liberal wasp attitude towards race advocacy, good enough for other groups but whites don’t really need to worry about it. He’s advocated for a modest amount of AA for blacks, and Indians, but not for anyone else.

Whites are supposed to be above it all because apparently they have enough to never worry about it.

Willful horseshit is a lubed ticket back to Hell.
Congratulations.

” European Jews” – I see what you did there. OTOH when it comes to Christians involved in the slave trade, you call them “Portuguese”, but when you mention the Portuguese (Sephardic) Jews who you say profited from the slave trade, they are suddenly “European Jews” and not Portuguese Jews.

Should modern day Poles and Lithuanians feel responsible for what the Portuguese did in Africa? If not, what blame should I as an Ashkenazi Jew accept for the actions of the Sephardic Jews who are as remote from me as Portuguese are from Poles?

But in anti-Semitic discourse, it’s always “the Jews” who ran the slave trade.

The antebellum Jews of the South were well established and got along well with their neighbors as you say, but you have to understand that they were a tiny, tiny minority. Until the 1840s, when German Jews (along with other Germans) started showing up in large #’s, the total # of Jews in the entire US was under 15,000. In contrast, in the decade between 1900 and 1910, the Jewish population of the US went UP by around 1,000,000, almost all of whom were Ashkenazi Jews from the Pale of Settlement. “Quantity has its own quality” and its hard to think of elegant Southern gentlemen like Judah Benjamin as being part of the same group as the unwashed pickle vendors of the Lower East Side.

After the war, Benjamin became a prominent lawyer in London, arguing before the House of Lords and the Privy Counsel. His French wife, Natalie Benjamin, had the last rites of the Catholic Church administered to Benjamin before his death in Paris in 1884, and funeral services were held in a church prior to his interment at Père Lachaise Cemetery in the St. Martin family crypt. So I’m not sure that Benjamin really gets credit for being on the Jewish team anyway.

The Jews were not the ones who “flooded the country with hordes of [black] minorities” like Stacey Abrams. For that you should blame your ancestors. Should there be a penalty paid by those Christians (and their descendants) who did this, which was, in many ways, the much greater sin?

The real question is whether or not Jewishness is a blood or racial distinction. I would maintain that it is not. In biblical terms, a Jew is someone covenanted into the people of Abraham by circumcision. An Eskimo could be Jewish through conversion, and while not ethnically linked to a Jew from the middle East or Eastern Europe, would be completely Jewish. Jews can be White, Black, Brown, Red, or Yellow.

The fallacy in all this is the pretense that Israel is criticised because people see the Jews as “white” rather than, you know, being settler-colonialists who are constantly at war with everyone around them and generally as evil as they can get away with.

I don’t know about that.

Israel is mistreating the Palestinians horribly, but there’s so much evil in the world, and so much human suffering, yet the masses don’t usually care much, if it even registers.

The MSM needs to whip them into a frenzy, like it had done over Ukraine. Yet that’s obviously not what’s happened with Israel.

Another possible reason could be America’s involvement and moral responsibility for the carnage. But America also bears responsibility for the jihadist bloodbath of the last decade, yet many of the same people – now outraged over the Palestinians’ plight, furious with Israel and unabashedly denouncing Zionism as evil – only denied or relativized those crimes (as much as the horrific brutality allowed them to), and stigmatized anyone attempting any honest discussion of the ideology driving them and the societies that harbor it.

So while some combination of the suffering inflicted on the victims and the US enabling it obviously is crucial to some people (those few who have been halfway consistent), I don’t really think that’s the motivation for most. The Ashkenazi being seen as white and Western seems far more important.

(Art Deco with an impassioned defense of neoconservatism in 3, 2, 1…)

English teacher, perhaps.

Ouch.

Well done.

The Jews were not the ones

I wrote in the present tense, addressing your claim of “serious and false accusation[s]”:

Let’s imagine there are Jews (and others) “flooding the country with hordes of minorities”. Should there be a penalty paid by those Jews (and others) or not? And if so, what should it be?

Do you concede there are guilty Jews (and others) in the here and now “flooding the country with hordes of minorities”?

Jack (ass!) I’m reading Walter Isaacson’s biography of Musk right now. Elon Musk has been through this shit before. He thrives on it. You don’t know what the fuck you are talking about, but that is par for your particular, tiresome course.

Go back to reading Tommy Wolf’s “Right Stuff” and calling astronauts “Spam in the Can.” That was one of your real winners!

You are painfully pedestrian and predictable.

You wrote:

Musk is going to have to stay here and deal with the consequences of his big mouth.

Spoken like a True Jew Mafioso!

Fewer and fewer people are buying into your shit now.

Screw you!

Steve, if you and other conservative social media stars don’t support Elon Musk, then he is going to get cancelled and no one will dare to challenge Jewish power again. They will feel enboldened to end democracy through vote rigging. We must support Elon to save democracy in America.

Okay, what do we need to do to support the hyper-rich Elon Musk? Are you sure he needs our help?

The black lady on that hysterical women morning show got put on time out for saying that The Holocaust was a white on white crime.
So yeah, the Jews don’t consider themselves white.

If the Arabs on the West Bank and Gaza wanted an end to the Jewish presence there and an Arab state in those two territories, they’d have taken that deal when it was offered. They spurned it, twice.

“That deal” wasn’t spurned, it was spurious. And you know this as well as I do, Jewish media propaganda to the contrary.

https://electronicintifada.net/content/misrepresentation-baraks-offer-camp-david-generous-and-unprecedented/3991

He did not buy Twitter to make money but for steering the narrative. See Bezos at Wapo.

Jack, you wrote:

Even if Jews ran the slave trade (they didn’t) today’s Jews are as responsible for what they did as white Americans are responsible for Pizzaro.

Hey, dipstick! There are at least two points you avoid:

1) Whites like me are being taken along for the slavery-responsibility ride.

2) You conveniently leave out the very same conflation when it happens to “your” own people.

Gee, Whites like me can endure all the anti-White, racial HATE promulgated in part by YOUR very own tribe…

While YOU get to differentiate between “your particular brand of Jews” and some other type that you say actually participated in the slave trade.

Good move, counsellor. You really do appear to be full of hatred for me, hatred hidden inside deceit.

My Southern mother grew up poor, really poor. My father and his people never had anything to do with slavery. Yet I, as a White man, have endured endless crap facilitated by the likes of you.

Fewer and fewer Americans are falling for your con job. Many are waking up now, while you support the way -out-of-proportion bombing, blasting, baby-killing genocide and takeover of land by the very people you support and identify with — while my own tax dollars pay for the genocide you want there.

The Jews owned the Slavs trade. They made millions off it. Wallace the Jew is long dead in his pine coffin and his loathsome sleazy son is no better.

Your brethren sure as hell did you like basterd

A lot of Jews believe that they may be descended from the people who were kicked out of Israel 2000 years ago

It’s worth remembering that the Romans did not expel the Jews from Palestine. It’s a popular belief but it’s just an urban myth.

What the Romans did do – for how long I don’t know – was ban Jews from living permanently in Jerusalem.

No. The Jews are not “flooding the country with hordes of minorities” in order to replace white people. Flat no. A pure and damnable lie. Every other poor person on the planet would like to leave his shitty country and come to America. They don’t need the Jews to encourage them. The coyotes that bring people across the border are not Jewish. The focus on Jews is bizarre.

Steve is an old-fashioned missionary. His religion is the Enlightenment. Like all missionaries, he holds his own people to a higher standard than the heathen.

The heathen not living up to Enlightenment ideals, while not great, is understandable in Steve’s mind. They are heathen, after all. But whites misbehaving by, say, wanting to think of themselves as a group, is unforgivable.

Steve would have made a great pastor or small college professor in 19th century New England. He’s definitely not made for the 21st century.

The Ideological Age is ending. The Demographic Age has begun. Steve laments that.

No. The Jews are not “flooding the country with hordes of minorities” in order to replace white people. Flat no. A pure and damnable lie.

Cited minority-immigration and White-replacement booster Michelle Goldberg of the New York Times and White-replacement enforcer Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas are not Jewish? What about less well-known groups like HIAS? They’re not Jewish either?

Anyway, given the fury about the latest tweet by Elon Musk which is regarded as anti-Semitic and has caused major advertisers like Apple and IBM to “pause” advertising on Twitter (X), what do all those who thought it would be a good thing for Elon Musk to take over Twitter and abolish any kind of censorship think now?

One may not actually like the state of Israel too much, but stirring up personal hatred against Jewish neighbors in the USA or Europe is quite another thing.

(Part of the problem is the O.T. of the Christian Bible which provides a lot of very misleading information which many people take for granted and confuse with real history, and the N.T. story about the Roman Governor Marcus Pontius Pilatus being quite willing to let Jesus go free as a harmless nutcase, but having his hand forced by a baying Jewish mob to crucify the pacifist preacher.

It would be a good thing if people got the message out that the Bible stories are probably not very historically accurate.)

Jews were afraid that their anti-white rhetoric might be too over the top and backfire, making us hate blacks. That’s not how it works 😂

It’s Schroedinger’s Semite: at once white and not white. You don’t know which until the Semite is presented with an opportunity to gain by one identity or the other.

https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/david-baddiel-whoopi-goldberg-antisemitism-holocaust-the-view-b980696.html

David Baddiel: Anti-semitism is racism, whether Jews are a race or not, Whoopi Goldberg
By David Baddiel
04 February 2022
[…]
But the centre of the issue is her description of the Holocaust as a “white on white” case. The resistance I’m talking about is I think deeper in America, where the word racism is strictly ringfenced for the discrimination suffered by people of colour. Jews are not people of colour — except of course, it’s complex, as there are many Jews of colour — but my position is, Jews are not quite white either: they are Schrodinger’s whites, white or non-white depending on the politics of the observer.

He has a sister, Ruthie Blum, who writes for the Jerusalem Post &c (never read her) and another sister, Naomi, who produces occasional journalism but earns her living in the PR business.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruthie_Blum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Podhoretz

John Podhoretz has a nephew Noam Blum.

https://www.tabletmag.com/contributors/noam-blum

Noam Blum is Chief Technology Officer at Tablet Magazine. Find him on Twitter @neontaster

Oh and by the way, his other uncle is Elliott Abrams, neocon luminary and special representative for the Trump Administration on regime change in Venezuela. Ok, logging off now, have a great night https://t.co/qg3Zo4kNUp

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) January 12, 2020

Needs to keep being said: Jews are Schrodinger's Whites. They exist in the superposition of white and not-white until observed by a racist. https://t.co/aZkpZqHhXM

— Noam Blum (@neontaster) June 10, 2020

I have known one Creole woman in New Orleans with blue eyes. She appeared as white as Ann Coulter until she started talking. Straight (dyed) blonde hair. I never asked her if she used hair relaxer. 50-50 possibility on that.

It seems their purpose is saying things like “We whites are evil” and “I’m proud of being Jewish”, as I paraphrase some well known Jew

Yeah it’s a weird thing. My best guess is that Jews who think of themselves as not White mean not WASP. On “The Sopranos” Tony once claimed not to be not White too.

Regardless of what some Italian-Americans may or may not have felt, the Jewish writers of the Sopranos are using Italian-Americans as their sock puppets. The Sopranos is a work of fiction after all, and should be looked at no differently than any other product of Jewish controlled Hollywood/mass media.

I read what Musk agreed with & he’s right. ADL is in reality an anti-white organization; also, many public Jews are vocal in support of immigration inundation & they don’t even hide it.

Anti-white, in this context, means defaming the historical American nation consisting mostly of Euro-Americans with various specifically American traditions.

True, not many white Gentile Americans are publicly against this suicidal policy; also; Musk is also to blame- as far as I know, Jared Taylor still does not have his account back at Twitter/X. But there are public figures, some of them even “mixed blood”, but European at heart like Ricardo Duchesne who strongly oppose ruination of the West.
There are Jews galore who behave absolutely unacceptably re. immvasion & barely 2-3 voices against.

Such things irritate people who notice what’s happening. And the same type of behavior in Italy, too. https://www.unz.com/runz/did-the-neocons-save-the-world-from-the-thucydides-trap/?showcomments#comment-5922414

It’s kind of coincidental that you put in your 3rd paragraph here, Jonathan, as I just reviewed the documentary Last Days of Jesus.

This one purported to explain the Gospels differently, using a bunch of interesting Roman and Judaean history, and the crux (no pun intended) was Pontius Pilate’s* personality. Their alternate explanation just sucked. It was from PBS. You watch PBS, don’t you. You seem like a PBS viewer somehow…

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* Plus, you’re confusing a Roman official from 2,000 years ago with a Swiss made turboprop airplane.

Anyway, given the fury about the latest tweet by Elon Musk which is regarded as anti-Semitic and has caused major advertisers like Apple and IBM to “pause” advertising on Twitter (X), what do all those who thought it would be a good thing for Elon Musk to take over Twitter and abolish any kind of censorship think now?

It’s an immeasurably great thing that Musk took over Twitter. Elon’s tweets are icing on the cake. Are you not enjoying the show? Censorship is for slaves. Are you another brick in the wall, Mr. Masonry?

Ugghhhh…. Not the both of your screenplays – they were pretty good, but, that post and comments brings up bad memories. I’d quit commenting for a while, I was so sick of Covide-19 that shit – I noticed none from me. That post was from May 8th ’20, with comments going on through May 12th.

I see there was some good common sense coming in from some of the crowd already. Travis had one about obesity that about nailed it. However, my favorite was this one from “Paul”:

“Is It Safer to Visit a Coffee Shop or a Gym?” [The post title]

Either is safer than a Chuck E. Cheese in the inner city.

Kind of prescient too…

Camouflage strategy ressemble the majority superficially.

It doesn’t matter what JPod says, or what the Feds say, or even what whites say: It is non-whites, specifically black and browns, who decide who is white.

They have decided that Jews are not only white, but the most privileged whites of all. Uber Whites, as it were. And that’s what matters.

The ‘apartheid’ rhetoric, the South Africa playbook for banishing Israel from the global community (while ignoring the behavior of pretty much every non-white country on earth), this is no accident. Israel is not ruled by a minority population like South Africa, but you can bet that on that fateful day the US is majority non-white, the apartheid talk demonizing American whites will escalate. They’re already making threatening noises (“who will look after you in your old age, hmm whitey?”) and I trust them for one thing, and that’s to carry out their threats.

NATO membership would be a step down for Israel. As is, they get all the defense they need from it (that is, from US, which is all that matters), and none of the obligation or risk

To me, the topic discussed here seems to be crystal clear. “Race” is not just a phenotype or genotype; nor some “social construct”. It is in the Americas & other Europe- derived societies a sense of being a part of the European civilization with roots in Athens and Rome. This state of being comes naturally to Europeans who move to other Western societies. For a big part of highly assimilated Jews, it still remains a sort of double consciousness, a feeling of unease, a friction – from holidays to iconography to many other everyday issues. I guess Heinrich Heine felt that way: To say that being a Jew is just a religion is the same as proclaiming that being a hunchback is a religion.

All things considered, I’d say that, as time goes by, immigrants from Hungary, Germany, Poland, Finland, France,…or even Greece and Russia, after they move to the US, Argentine or Australia..feel “at home”; and with Jews there remains a sense of alienation, being “other”.

In short, an average European seamlessly morphs into other types of Europe-derived people; the average assimilated Jew remains a fellow traveler, not stable in his identity until it, hopefully, finally resolves one way or another.

https://unherd.com/2021/02/jewish-privilege-is-a-myth/

Jewish privilege is a myth
Today’s obsession with ‘whiteness’ ignores the complexities of race
BY GILES FRASER
February 18, 2021

It’s only recently that I came across the idea of “Schrödinger’s whites”. This is the notion that Jews are considered to be white or non-white depending on the political perspective of the viewer.
[…]
David Baddiel’s new book, Jews Don’t Count, is a broadside against the widespread progressive assumption that Jews don’t fit in with the “minority ethnic” framework of today’s identity politics. In a culture where you can receive considerable censure for misgendering a transgender person, the refusal to count Jews as belonging to an ethnic minority is widely unnoticed.

Yes it was the Luftwaffe. They thought Churchill was on the plane.

In 1942, Churchill had flown across the Atlantic, returning from America, and British propaganda had mocked the Luftwaffe for failing to intercept him.

At the time this BOAC airliner was shot down, Churchill was in North Africa, and it was suspected he would try to fly home again under the noses of the Germans.

British intelligence also spread rumors that an important person was on this plane, and one of the passengers had a physical resemblance to Churchill. The Germans had spies in Lisbon so were aware of this.

I always assumed that the reason for not having “Jewish” on the race/ethnicity bit of census forms was

a) (ostensible) – “that’s what the Nazis did, how could you be so hateful, it’ll be camps and trains next”

b) (actual) – “we’ll be seen as the wealthiest and most privileged group”

Well, there is that First Amendment thing, too.

Except for “Hispanic”, which was added somewhat cynically in 1970, ethnicity wasn’t asked about until 1980, and even then not that granularly at first.

Before that, there was just race, birthplace, and parents’ birthplaces to go by. Jews would have been ” Russian”, “Polish”, ” Austrian”, “Roumanian”, or what have you. They could have used “Ashkenazi”, ” Sephardi”, etc as an ethnic marker– e.g., Catholic Bernard Nathanson and Episcopalian Lawrence Auster, yes, Jews Sammy Davis Jr and Robert Putnam and Jewesses Ivanka Trump and Sara Blakely, no.

Thanks to the one-drop rule,”white” doesn’t tell you what you are, only what you aren’t. This is why “Caucasian”, “Anglo-Saxon”, or almost anything else is preferable.

Are Derb’s children white? No. Are they Anglo-Saxon? More than I am, and I bet I am more than a large number of regular commenters here.

Few Americans are of all-English ancestry, but a majority have some. Genealogist and novelist Jeane Weston claimed as much as 82% of us. (Certainly virtually all native blacks and Indians will have some.)

The English alone population was the largest detailed White group nationally, in 35 states, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico. The German alone population was the largest in 10 states, the Italian alone population in four, and the Irish alone population only in Massachusetts.

English Most Common Race or Ethnicity in 2020 Census

Lots of good charts and maps at that link.

But out in the real world these are serious, anti-Semitic accusations and Musk is (rightly) going to get punched back hard for trying to bring these fringe views out from under their rock and into mainstream discourse in America.

It’s an antisemitic canard that Jews have lots of power and influence and can discipline even the most powerful (non-Jewish) Billionaires for criticizing them.

I hope I don’t see anymore of this kind of scribbling around here from now on.

The UK is very different though because about 80% of Jews vote conservative. Baddiel isn’t necessarily one of them, but he’d know that’s how it works. Labour, by contrast, is de facto the Muslims party. The proportion of British Jews still caring whether they’re progressive enough, or on the underdogs side of history etc must be shrinking fast. They’re probably feeling whiter over time.

Jack D, stop defaming Elon Musk. He did not attack “the Jews.” He criticized the ADL by name for its gross hypocrisies.

You have said the actual truth

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 15, 2023

And, at the risk of being repetitive, I am deeply offended by ADL’s messaging and any other groups who push de facto anti-white racism or anti-Asian racism or racism of any kind.

I’m sick of it. Stop now.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 15, 2023

They really should just drop the “A” and go with Defamation League. Way more accurate.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 15, 2023

I recited some odious positions of the ADL to you recently and you rightly replied that not all Jews agree with ADL. Just as I do not have the same views as George W Bush. I respect that position. But now we’re back to the tired old emotional reaction that any negative remark about a Jewish organization is antisemitic! I hope you retract with the honorable excuse of being too hurried to understand the whole context.

Ben Shapiro said Musk’s criticisms of ADL are apt. Is Ben Shapiro antisemitic now?

Ben Shapiro defends Elon Musk’s criticism of the ADL and progressive Jewish organizations whose policies have resulted in the widespread increase in anti-Western and anti-Jewish sentiment throughout the West. pic.twitter.com/CAcRElPQ7i

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) November 16, 2023

All racism is evil. If that’s something you can’t agree to then there is something seriously wrong with you.

— Steven Mackey (@stevenmackeyman) November 16, 2023

He is deeply offended by racism of any kind.

You right that this does not extend to all Jewish communities, but it is also not just limited to ADL

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 15, 2023

He seems to be on the verge of banning demands for decolonization, deeming them genocidal against Jews (and any other population the demand can be aimed at).

Yes, “decolonization” necessarily implies a Jewish genocide, thus it is unacceptable to any reasonable person

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 15, 2023

ADL thanked him! https://twitter.com/JGreenblattADL/status/1725652667119092100

Finally, https://twitter.com/stclairashley/status/1725592241459138686

Addendum: he engages in multiple political topics, not just the ADL. see my https://www.unz.com/isteve/hispanic-paradox-why-do-mestizos-live-so-long/#comment-6265344

Interesting that Podhead agrees with the Ku Klux Klan.

Thanks to the one-drop rule,”white” doesn’t tell you what you are, only what you aren’t. This is why “Caucasian”, “Anglo-Saxon”, or almost anything else is preferable.

LOL. It literally says what it is: White. It’s synonymous with European racial ancestry.

The existence of White subgroups like Anglo-Saxons doesn’t disprove the existence of the larger racial category. You and the likes of joker Ta-Nehisi Coates (“those who believe they are white”) have a weird hangup about recognizing there’s a race called Whites, aka Europeans. White, in America, is just a shorter synonym of “European-American”. Now you know what White is. You’re welcome.

Jews say they are not white. They sure look white to people who REALLY ARE not white. What Jews mean is they do not naturally belong to Europe and see its peoples their as goyim. Jews see themselves as a separate group.

The Baht guy’s a little over the top…but after years of reading this place, and looking at the NYT and WaPo, I hate to say it, but he’s right.

It’s a lot more complicated than the Anglin brigade wants to pretend–it’s not like there’s a united front from the Likud to the DSA trying to destroy white America and convince them to become gay so they don’t have kids while they breed like bunnies themselves. A lot of these types hate each other. Stephen Miller exists, even if he got insulted by his own uncle. Netanyahu’s not in cahoots with Schumer to flood America with nonwhites; Bibi probably wants a more right-wing America that will back him up. Podhoretz neocon types are much more afraid of neo-Nazis than they are genuinely hateful of whites; Commentary ran a full special issue on how bad wokeness is. The sort of Michelle Goldberg types who exult over replacement aren’t hugely into breeding themselves. The DSA types usually want to ‘decolonize’ Israel along with the rest of the Western world.

But the truth is *conservative* Jews tend to stop short of being pro-White, if only because pro-White types really, really don’t like Jews (look at the remainder of this site). The best you get is an Edward Blum type who knocks down discrimination against everyone (for this regard much thanks), or Breitbart types who like Trump and want the USA to stay the USA; if not explicitly white, they have some appreciation for either classical Western culture or the American cowboy variety. They tended to be pretty pro-immigration (look at Commentary), though I do get the sense this is changing. Maybe there’s hope?
*Liberal and libertarian* Jews are, well, liberals (modern or classical), and even if they’re against cancel culture tend to be pro-immigration–look at Bryan ‘Open Borders’ Caplan or Matt ‘One Billion Americans’ Yglesias. (Can you think of anything more horrifying?) You can find guys like Yascha Mounk and Stephen Pinker who realize identity politics is horrible for them (and for the country), but they’re all for LGBTQED, and have 1d2-1 kids (not that I’m in any position to criticize) unless they’re super rich.
As for *leftists*, well, everything is part of white supremacy, which must be torn down, to allow us to create The Great Socialist State (That Has Never Been *Tried*!) They want to wreck Israel too, but that’s cold comfort. Their being Jewish is kind of peripheral at this point, except in the historical sense. They’re leftists, what else is there to say? I have to admit some things like a national healthcare system like, oh, *every other rich country in the world* might not be so bad, but the doofuses want to turn this country into the USSR. Or China, before it became capitalist and stopped running up death tolls that put Stalin to shame. Or CHAZ/CHOP. We need to defund the cops, unless they’re putting people in jail for being racist!
Technically I should differentiate between anarchists and communists, but they’re both open-borders, so who cares?

Oh, and if anyone tries to tell you the Great Replacement is fake, remind them it was actually in a book called ‘The Emerging Democratic Majority’, written by a pair of Democratic consultants (one of whom has gone apostate–not the Jewish one, of course).

Now excuse me while I go puke.

Right, I read Tablet and it is generally more relevant and contemporary. I tried reading Commentary’s takes after October 7th and it just felt dated. Like trying on your pants from high school. Tablet usually has some nuance and plays to liberals at least in theory, but it has become pretty hardcore since the Hamas attack.

I distinctly remember reading a Norman Podhoretz (father of John Podhoretz) article years ago (early 90s I think) in which he called Jews a “White Ethnic Group.” It was an aside, not the theme of the article, but he wrote it.

John’s mother, Midge Decter, wrote Liberal Parents, Radical Children. What might Neoconservative Parents… be followed by? She was also a staunch critic of “women’s lib”.

I found the modest house she lived in in 1930, thanks to that year’s census, and checked it out. (IRL, though you can do it via Google Maps and Earth now, too.) Mr Rosenthal* had a small business in sporting goods, perhaps equipping the “Scots” of Macalester College a short walk away. There were a plethora of “white ethnic groups” around– two Catholic (and one Presbyterian!) colleges nearby, and Jews “covenanted” out of the city next door. German-Norwegian Charles M Schulz’s family barber shop was about a mile away. (Though 1930 was the one year they spent in Needles, Calif., so you won’t find them on Midge’s page.)

* Here’s a 1982 interview with him.

Separate from the Musk quote, I do not think the commercial is effective propaganda. The target and protagonist is The Boomer in the Pick-up Truck, not the son. Boomers in Pick-up Trucks already support Israel. How to reach the younger generation is the conundrum that needs to be addressed. The recent ADL audio leak reflects this.

How is this not an indictment of Greenblatt and how he has run the ADL?

'We have a major Tiktok problem.'

Leaked audio of ADL chief executive Jonathan Greenblatt freaking out because global youth aren't buying Israel's propaganda anymore. #Gaza pic.twitter.com/tzU02bSXAm

— Sharmine Narwani (@snarwani) November 16, 2023

Jews are white, but they are not White, and that is incredibly important to understand.

“white” a person of light skin colour, who is non-Asian.

White, a non-Jewish person of European descent without large or obvious non-White &/or Jewish admixture.

Jews and Whites have different cultures, ancestries, histories, genetics, orientations and phenotypical traits, i.e. they are different people.

So lumping in Jews with Whites, is always an error, and usually occurs only when an anti-White outcome can be delivered. E.g. *Actual* Whites can be a tiny proportion of an Ivy league university with a Jewish administrator, well below their share of high performing students, but with Jews included as “white” that can make it appear that Whites are not underrepresented at all, when they are.

Spain also doesn’t occupy someone else’s land….

Muslims think it’s theirs, because they once ruled it, and according to Allah, anything they once ruled is always theirs.

Literally the first international war fought by the United States was against Spain’s long-term enemies, the Barbery states.

https://www.city-journal.org/article/jefferson-versus-the-muslim-pirates

Boomers in Pick-up Trucks already support Israel. How to reach the younger generation is the conundrum that needs to be addressed.

Needs to be addressed?

Elon’s off-leash frolic lasted like 1.5 days. Back to Zion’s warm cozy embrace.

Buzz Mohawk wrote to Jack D:

Fewer and fewer Americans are falling for your con job. Many are waking up now, while you support the way -out-of-proportion bombing, blasting, baby-killing genocide and takeover of land by the very people you support and identify with — while my own tax dollars pay for the genocide you want there.

It is worth reading this interview from a few days ago (see here) with one of the leaders of the “settlement” movement on the West Bank, from The New Yorker of all places!

These are not nice people.

And see here for a compilation of what Israelis are saying right now supprting genocide of the Palestinians: “Amalek,” for those unfamiliar with Jewish culture, is one of the many, many examples of genocide praised in the Hebrew Bible — see 1 Samuel 15:

Thus saith the Lord of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.

Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

And now Bibi is open that this is what he has planned for the innocents among the Palestinians.

And, no, not all Israelis and not all Jews feel this way: note that the video compilation comes from a Jewish woman, “Katie Halper A Jew For #CeasefireNow.” There really are decent Jews and Israelis.

But a lot of them aren’t.

So, will Jack D repudiate what Bibi said?

Isabella of Spain by William Thomas Walsh (London: Sheed & Ward, 1935):

Wherever they went, the Jews threw open to them the gates of the principal cities, so that in an incredibly short time the Africans were masters of all Spain save the little kingdom of the Asturias in the northern mountains, where the Christian survivors who were unwilling to accept Islam reassembled and prepared to win back their heritage… (p.17)

Everywhere the Spanish Jews opened the gates of cities to the conquerors, and the Moslems rewarded them by turning over to them the government of Granada, Seville and Cordoba. “Without any love for the soil where they lived, without any of those affections that ennoble a people, and finally without sentiments of generosity,” says Amador de los Rios, “they aspired only to feed their avarice and to accomplish the ruin of the Goths; taking the opportunity to manifest their rancour, and boasting of the hatreds that they had hoarded up so many centuries.”

…In the new Moslem state the Jews found themselves highly esteemed. It was under the caliphs that they attained the height of their prosperity… (p. 259)

Jack D wrote to Hypnotoad666:

But out in the real world these are serious, anti-Semitic accusations and Musk is (rightly) going to get punched back hard for trying to bring these fringe views out from under their rock and into mainstream discourse in America.

Why on earth do we have a special word — anti-Semitic — for speech that criticizes Jews but not for speech that criticizes any other group of people at all?

No special term for criticism of Russians or Chinese or Arabs (who actually are Semites, unlike most Jews!) or, for that matter, Germans or French or Englishmen.

Why?

Jack, a while back I pointed out some of the really nasty aspects of Judaism — e.g., the slaughter of the three thousand in Exodus 32 because they held the wrong religious views or YHWH’s command for genocide against Amalek (1 Samuel 15) — and you just went ballistic.

Why?

I’ve said many critical things about Christians, Ukrainians, Koreans, etc., all of which is permitted.

But not, it seems, the Jews.

Why?

Again: I have said many, many times that of course there are many decent, ethical Jews as well as many slimy contemptible Jews, just as the same can be said for Poles and Brazilians and any other ethnic group.

But offer a factually true criticism of (some) Jews or (some aspects of) Judaism, and that is “anti-Semitic.”

Why?

Tell us why, Jack.

The people who made the commercial need to reach the younger generation not the older generation. The commercial does not do that task. I am not sure they can pull it off. I am not saying this is my task or your task. As propaganda, I think this commercial fails.

What does the poor woman have to do with Zion?

LGTH wrote:

Jews and Whites have different cultures, ancestries, histories, genetics, orientations and phenotypical traits, i.e. they are different people.

So lumping in Jews with Whites, is always an error, and usually occurs only when an anti-White outcome can be delivered.

Ashkenazi Jews are Europeans.

The genetic data show a large European, probably Italian, background.

Yiddish is a dialect of German.

Their culture is as European as Russian or Romanian or Bulgarian. Yeah, not quite English or French, but European.

The Leftist protesters are correct in labeling Zionism as the last gasp of European colonialism.

Mizrahim, on the other hand, are certainly not Europeans. The Jews are not “one people,” any more than Christians from Sweden and Ethiopia or Buddhists from Sri Lanka and Japan constitute “one people.”

It’s all a con game by the Ashkenazim: before the October 7 attacks, the conflict between Mizrahim and Ashkenazim was tearing Israel apart. Hamas put a pause to that.

Arabs are not very smart.

Yeah, but unfortunately, the carrier was back at Norfolk in drydock, so they had to send Stephen Decatur and a couple dozen marines to do the job. They got the ships seaworthy by 1898, but evidently Dewey screwed up and didn’t realize that the perpetual standing mission of the US Navy was to act as an enforcer for Spain (Israel was only a gleam in Theodore Herzl’s eye at the time), so he sunk the Spanish ships instead.
I replied to Jack D about 10 hours ago, but I didn’t get past the bouncer. Can someone who has an X account talk to Elon and see if he can negotiate with the ADL to let me through?

I can’t imagine anyone can have much of a problem with what Ben says here.

Whether Jews are white or not, the issue is that most of those marching to “free Palestine” are doing so largely to oppose “colonization” by white people. And there is little doubt that the vast majority are anti-white in general, even when Jews are not specifically the issue.

‘Muslims think it’s theirs, because they once ruled it…’

As opposed to Christians, who had once ruled it, and so thought it was theirs.

Thanks for this. I have known Katie Halper for years through my anti-war activities in New York. I have harbored minor reservations over time if she might be controlled opposition. She has really impressed me over the Gaza issue. I obviously disagree with her on likely most issues, but she has always been a stand up person when it comes to militarism. Very impressed by her continued commitment and she has a wonderful sense of humor and always struck me as good natured.

‘Right. I don’t see much on the left of specifically anti-Semitic rather than anti-white attitudes.’

It really is fair to say that ‘antisemitic’ has come to mean ‘hostile to Israel.’ It can also still be used in its original sense, of course.

What a fundamentally ridiculous age we’ve got on our hands.