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Golly 4.1 is now available from sourceforge:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/golly/files/golly/golly-4.1/

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this release!

Andrew

I think everything relevant has been checked in now.  There was one
more promised pattern that was supposed to show up, a collection of
the new (2,1)c/6 rake and puffer technology based on Sir Sprayer and
Sir Robin -- but it hasn't appeared, and I'm traveling today and won't
have time to build out a replacement for it.  There's no reason it
can't wait until Golly 4.2, or else sneak in to the Online Archives in
the meantime.

There are certainly more Online Archives updates that should be done,
so maybe I'll spend some time in December tackling the next round of
that project.

Any questions or comments on the mostly-OCA patterns that have been
added for 4.1, let me know!  They're mostly GUYTU6J's work, with some
copy editing and a few additions by me.  Thanks --


Dave

On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 8:37 PM Andrew Trevorrow
<and...@gm...> wrote:
>
> No objections from me to any of Dave's proposed changes.
> Hopefully they can all be done by the end of this week?
> I want to do the final 4.1 builds no later than the 27th (my time,
> which is more like the 26th in the US).
>
> Andrew
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No objections from me to any of Dave's proposed changes.
Hopefully they can all be done by the end of this week?
I want to do the final 4.1 builds no later than the 27th (my time,
which is more like the 26th in the US).

Andrew

16MB is fine.

On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 9:08 AM Chris Rowett <cr...@gm...> wrote:

> From my perspective the more curated content the better.
> I'm not sure in this day and age that 16Mb is a download issue. There are
> very few tools I download that are that small, and Golly is only updated
> once or twice a year.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 4:48 PM Dave Greene <dav...@gm...>
> wrote:
>
>> For Golly 4.1 there's been a lot more interest from more people, in
>> regards to contributing good curated patterns for the pattern
>> collection.  To encourage that, I've checked in quite a few new
>> patterns this time around, mostly in the OCA subfolders.
>>
>> Does anyone have any thoughts about the effect this is having on
>> Golly's distributable file sizes?  Is ~16MB a reasonable size these
>> days?
>>
>> It's certainly possible to bring the size back down a little bit, by
>> moving a few of the larger stamp collections to the Online Archives,
>> mostly to Very Large Patterns.
>>
>> Conversely, I'm thinking about one or two more additions to Golly's
>> pattern collection.  One is the updated oscillator stamp collection
>> that David Raucci ("hotdogPi") has been doing so much good work on.  I
>> just have to get the automatically-generated LifeViewer labels looking
>> a little better, and that's ready to check in any time:
>>   https://www.conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=115412#p115412
>>
>> Looking at the "Super" folder, currently with only four files in it, I
>> wondered if it might be good to add the Exploratorium there -- it's
>> about 85K in compressed form:
>>   https://www.conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=113168#p113168
>>
>> One or both of these could reasonably end up in Very Large Patterns
>> instead -- but it does seem as if only a small fraction of Golly users
>> find their way to the online archives, so maybe there's an argument
>> for keeping these in the main pattern collection.  My current plan
>> would be to move Dean Hickerson's version of the oscillator stamp
>> collection to Very Large Patterns, and replace it with David Raucci's
>> pattern.
>>
>> Suggestions?  Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
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>From my perspective the more curated content the better.
I'm not sure in this day and age that 16Mb is a download issue. There are
very few tools I download that are that small, and Golly is only updated
once or twice a year.

Chris


On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 4:48 PM Dave Greene <dav...@gm...>
wrote:

> For Golly 4.1 there's been a lot more interest from more people, in
> regards to contributing good curated patterns for the pattern
> collection.  To encourage that, I've checked in quite a few new
> patterns this time around, mostly in the OCA subfolders.
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts about the effect this is having on
> Golly's distributable file sizes?  Is ~16MB a reasonable size these
> days?
>
> It's certainly possible to bring the size back down a little bit, by
> moving a few of the larger stamp collections to the Online Archives,
> mostly to Very Large Patterns.
>
> Conversely, I'm thinking about one or two more additions to Golly's
> pattern collection.  One is the updated oscillator stamp collection
> that David Raucci ("hotdogPi") has been doing so much good work on.  I
> just have to get the automatically-generated LifeViewer labels looking
> a little better, and that's ready to check in any time:
>   https://www.conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=115412#p115412
>
> Looking at the "Super" folder, currently with only four files in it, I
> wondered if it might be good to add the Exploratorium there -- it's
> about 85K in compressed form:
>   https://www.conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=113168#p113168
>
> One or both of these could reasonably end up in Very Large Patterns
> instead -- but it does seem as if only a small fraction of Golly users
> find their way to the online archives, so maybe there's an argument
> for keeping these in the main pattern collection.  My current plan
> would be to move Dean Hickerson's version of the oscillator stamp
> collection to Very Large Patterns, and replace it with David Raucci's
> pattern.
>
> Suggestions?  Thanks,
>
>
> Dave
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Golly-test mailing list
> Gol...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/golly-test
>

For Golly 4.1 there's been a lot more interest from more people, in
regards to contributing good curated patterns for the pattern
collection.  To encourage that, I've checked in quite a few new
patterns this time around, mostly in the OCA subfolders.

Does anyone have any thoughts about the effect this is having on
Golly's distributable file sizes?  Is ~16MB a reasonable size these
days?

It's certainly possible to bring the size back down a little bit, by
moving a few of the larger stamp collections to the Online Archives,
mostly to Very Large Patterns.

Conversely, I'm thinking about one or two more additions to Golly's
pattern collection.  One is the updated oscillator stamp collection
that David Raucci ("hotdogPi") has been doing so much good work on.  I
just have to get the automatically-generated LifeViewer labels looking
a little better, and that's ready to check in any time:
  https://www.conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=115412#p115412

Looking at the "Super" folder, currently with only four files in it, I
wondered if it might be good to add the Exploratorium there -- it's
about 85K in compressed form:
  https://www.conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=113168#p113168

One or both of these could reasonably end up in Very Large Patterns
instead -- but it does seem as if only a small fraction of Golly users
find their way to the online archives, so maybe there's an argument
for keeping these in the main pattern collection.  My current plan
would be to move Dean Hickerson's version of the oscillator stamp
collection to Very Large Patterns, and replace it with David Raucci's
pattern.

Suggestions?  Thanks,


Dave

>
> N.B. breakout.lua has a default music/sfx volume of 1% so the player needs
> to press + and ] in order to hear something.
>

Fixed, thanks!

Works on Windows 10 and Linux without a problem!

N.B. breakout.lua has a default music/sfx volume of 1% so the player needs
to press + and ] in order to hear something.
credits.lua works nice (and the music is good)
pop-sounds.lua works

Also


Best wishes to you, Scorbie (Dongook Lee)





On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 9:02 PM Andrew Trevorrow <and...@gm...>
wrote:

> Here are the builds for Golly 4.1b2:
>
> http://www.trevorrow.com/golly/golly-4.1b2-mac.dmg   (for macOS 10.11+)
> http://www.trevorrow.com/golly/golly-4.1b2-win-64bit.zip   (for Windows
> 7+)
> http://www.trevorrow.com/golly/golly-4.1b2-gtk-64bit.tar.gz   (for Linux)
> http://www.trevorrow.com/golly/golly-4.1b2-src.tar.gz   (source code)
>
> If there are no problems I'll post these links in the conwaylife.com
> forums
> tomorrow some time.
>
> Andrew
>
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Here are the builds for Golly 4.1b2:

http://www.trevorrow.com/golly/golly-4.1b2-mac.dmg   (for macOS 10.11+)
http://www.trevorrow.com/golly/golly-4.1b2-win-64bit.zip   (for Windows 7+)
http://www.trevorrow.com/golly/golly-4.1b2-gtk-64bit.tar.gz   (for Linux)
http://www.trevorrow.com/golly/golly-4.1b2-src.tar.gz   (source code)

If there are no problems I'll post these links in the conwaylife.com forums
tomorrow some time.

Andrew

Me:

> I'm going to hold off making any changes to Golly until that bug is fixed.

Ok, that bug has been fixed and I've now got Golly playing sounds.
Still experimenting with a few things but I'm hoping to do builds of 4.1b2
in a few days.

In the meantime, it would help greatly if people could download and try
out these builds of Glu 0.5 (Golly uses exactly the same sound library):

http://www.trevorrow.com/glu/glu-0.5-mac.dmg   (for macOS 10.11+)
http://www.trevorrow.com/glu/glu-0.5-win-64bit.zip   (for Windows 7+)
http://www.trevorrow.com/glu/glu-0.5-gtk-64bit.tar.gz   (for Linux)

Start up Glu, click on Samples, then click on the link to either sounds.lua
or organ.lua.

Note that on Linux SDL2 is used for sound play, so you'll probably need
to do something like this:

sudo apt-get install libsdl2-dev

Thanks!
Andrew

That is very strange, I cannot reproduce it on my Windows Laptop (Acer
Aspire 5); it scales the way it should on 125%, 150%, 175%, and 200%.
I have been running Golly just fine on 125%.

Here are some of my laptop environment:

Golly version: golly-4.0-win-64bit
OS Name: Microsoft Windows 10 Education
Version: 10.0.19043 Build 19043



2021년 11월 5일 (금) 오후 8:53, Andrew Trevorrow <and...@gm...>님이 작성:

> We've had the following bug report:
>
> Windows 10 has a "scale and layout" setting (Settings -> Display -> Scale
> and layout). On my Acer Swift 3 laptop, Windows 10 recommends the "scale
> and layout" setting 150%, due to the small size of the laptop screen. When
> I start running Golly, the initial Golly window uses the 150% setting, but
> when Golly starts running, it switches suddenly to the 100% setting. I can
> avoid this problem by leaving the "scale and layout" setting at 100%, but
> the image is difficult to view at this setting. Is it possible to make
> Golly respect the Windows 10 "scale and layout" setting?
>
> I can't reproduce this on my Win 10 VM (I can't change the "scale and
> layout" setting to
> anything, presumably because Parallels needs the display scale to match my
> Mac's screen),
> so can anybody here with a real Windows machine reproduce the problem?
>
> Andrew
>
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We've had the following bug report:

Windows 10 has a "scale and layout" setting (Settings -> Display -> Scale
and layout). On my Acer Swift 3 laptop, Windows 10 recommends the "scale
and layout" setting 150%, due to the small size of the laptop screen. When
I start running Golly, the initial Golly window uses the 150% setting, but
when Golly starts running, it switches suddenly to the 100% setting. I can
avoid this problem by leaving the "scale and layout" setting at 100%, but
the image is difficult to view at this setting. Is it possible to make
Golly respect the Windows 10 "scale and layout" setting?

I can't reproduce this on my Win 10 VM (I can't change the "scale and
layout" setting to
anything, presumably because Parallels needs the display scale to match my
Mac's screen),
so can anybody here with a real Windows machine reproduce the problem?

Andrew