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Right that's intentional.  Its to avoid structure and alignment issues.

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-----Original Message-----
From: John Welch <jw...@zi...>

Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:08:40 
To: Cacti-Users<cac...@li...>
Subject: Re: [cacti-user] Fwd:  Mac OS X 10.5.7 breaks spine


On 5/19/09 3:24 PM, "John Welch" <jw...@zi...> wrote:

>>> This would appear to be an net-snmp issue.  You either have two versions
>>> of net-snmp libraries and/or headers installed, or you have a back package.
>> 
>> Not sure how it would be two versions, since it's the OS-supplied libs, but
>> I'll doublecheck to be sure.
> 
> I checked, and as best as I can tell, there's only one version of SNMP on
> the box.

I talked to some people at Apple. The problem seems to be related to spine
wanting a particular version of the library. They suggested this:

You can edit /usr/include/net-snmp/net-snmp-config.h:   #define
PACKAGE_VERSION "5.4.2.1" then rebuild.

I tested it, and it looks like it worked.

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On 5/19/09 3:24 PM, "John Welch" <jw...@zi...> wrote:

>>> This would appear to be an net-snmp issue.  You either have two versions
>>> of net-snmp libraries and/or headers installed, or you have a back package.
>> 
>> Not sure how it would be two versions, since it's the OS-supplied libs, but
>> I'll doublecheck to be sure.
> 
> I checked, and as best as I can tell, there's only one version of SNMP on
> the box.

I talked to some people at Apple. The problem seems to be related to spine
wanting a particular version of the library. They suggested this:

You can edit /usr/include/net-snmp/net-snmp-config.h:   #define
PACKAGE_VERSION "5.4.2.1" then rebuild.

I tested it, and it looks like it worked.

-- 
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850.668.2222
jw...@zi...

Hello,

I use cacti to monitor 7 hosts.

The graphs on two of them are not currently populated.

The only thing I noticed common between these hosts is their age; one
is an older Ubuntu (hardy) and one is an older Debian (4.0).  Their
snmpd.conf config files are almost identical to all the others.  In
particular, their community strings and access levels (read-only) are
configured the same as all the others.  I'm not sure how to
troubleshoot these hosts, to figure out why the ucd/net graphs aren't
being populated.  Can anyone help?

Also, on the device screen for every host, there are three Graph
Templates that create identical graphs on all hosts (CPU, load,
memory), and two associated Data Queries (SNMP - Get Mounted
Partitions and Interface Statistics).  On the device screen,
they are all identical.  But somehow I created graphs for these
Data Queries on some machines but not others.  Does anyone know
why I see these graphs on some Host graphs and not others?

Thanks,
Travis
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On 5/18/09 10:52 PM, "John Welch" <jw...@zi...> wrote:

>> This would appear to be an net-snmp issue.  You either have two versions
>> of net-snmp libraries and/or headers installed, or you have a back package.
> 
> Not sure how it would be two versions, since it's the OS-supplied libs, but
> I'll doublecheck to be sure.

I checked, and as best as I can tell, there's only one version of SNMP on
the box.

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jw...@zi...

On 5/18/09 9:37 PM, "Larry Adams" <lar...@co...> wrote:

> This would appear to be an net-snmp issue.  You either have two versions
> of net-snmp libraries and/or headers installed, or you have a back package.

Not sure how it would be two versions, since it's the OS-supplied libs, but
I'll doublecheck to be sure.

-- 
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the/zimmerman/agency
850.668.2222
jw...@zi...

This would appear to be an net-snmp issue.  You either have two versions 
of net-snmp libraries and/or headers installed, or you have a back package.

TheWitness

con...@me... wrote:
> I am having the same problem here spine refuses to run, even after re- 
> compiling.
>
>   
>>> So after upgrading to 10.5.7, I get the following error:
>>>
>>> 05/18/2009 11:48:14 AM - SPINE: Poller[0] ERROR: SNMP Library Version
>>> Mismatch (5.4.1 vs 5.4.2.1) (Spine parent)
>>>
>>> Rebuilt spine, no change.
>>>
>>> Cmd.php seems to still work okay, albeit gobs slower.
>>>
>>>
>>> Suggestions?
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>>>
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I am having the same problem here spine refuses to run, even after re- 
compiling.

>
>> So after upgrading to 10.5.7, I get the following error:
>>
>> 05/18/2009 11:48:14 AM - SPINE: Poller[0] ERROR: SNMP Library Version
>> Mismatch (5.4.1 vs 5.4.2.1) (Spine parent)
>>
>> Rebuilt spine, no change.
>>
>> Cmd.php seems to still work okay, albeit gobs slower.
>>
>>
>> Suggestions?
>> -- 
>> john welch
>> the/zimmerman/agency
>> 850.668.2222
>> jw...@zi...
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FYI, if you're running Cacti on Mac OS X, and you move that box to 10.5.7,
Spine will probably start complaining about the new SNMP library version:

05/18/2009 10:12:46 AM - SPINE: Poller[0] ERROR: SNMP Library Version
Mismatch (5.4.1 vs 5.4.2.1) (Spine parent)
-- 
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So after upgrading to 10.5.7, I get the following error:

05/18/2009 11:48:14 AM - SPINE: Poller[0] ERROR: SNMP Library Version
Mismatch (5.4.1 vs 5.4.2.1) (Spine parent)

Rebuilt spine, no change.

Cmd.php seems to still work okay, albeit gobs slower.


Suggestions?
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the/zimmerman/agency
850.668.2222
jw...@zi...

Its an oops from 2004.  We should remove the setting.  Although with the timespan selector turned off, it might work.

Larry

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-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Overbury <ad...@in...>

Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:57:33 
To: Support requests/questions about cacti<cac...@li...>
Subject: Re: [cacti-user] Adding graphs to a graph tree doesn't work properly


Reinhard Scheck wrote:
> Adrian Overbury wrote:
>> I'm having trouble adding the graphs I want to one of my graph trees in 
>> 0.8.7b.  I'm trying to give myself an overview of all the servers I 
>> monitor by adding graphs to the root of one of my trees.  I'm trying to 
>> add the Monthly graph view for each of the graphs in question, but when 
>> I go and view the graphs, they're always the Daily view instead.  Is 
>> this a known bug that I'm just not Googling well enough for?
>>
>> Adrian
> 
> When adding a graph to a tree, you can't specify a timespan per graph.
> 
> Instead, when viewing any graph, you may change the timespan for the whol list
> of graphs via "Preset". This can be chosen on a "per user" base, see "Settings"
> in graph mode

So I'm curious, then, about why there's a drop-down box allowing you to 
pick from one of the defined RRA periods if you can't actually do it.

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Reinhard Scheck wrote:
> Adrian Overbury wrote:
>> I'm having trouble adding the graphs I want to one of my graph trees in 
>> 0.8.7b.  I'm trying to give myself an overview of all the servers I 
>> monitor by adding graphs to the root of one of my trees.  I'm trying to 
>> add the Monthly graph view for each of the graphs in question, but when 
>> I go and view the graphs, they're always the Daily view instead.  Is 
>> this a known bug that I'm just not Googling well enough for?
>>
>> Adrian
> 
> When adding a graph to a tree, you can't specify a timespan per graph.
> 
> Instead, when viewing any graph, you may change the timespan for the whol list
> of graphs via "Preset". This can be chosen on a "per user" base, see "Settings"
> in graph mode

So I'm curious, then, about why there's a drop-down box allowing you to 
pick from one of the defined RRA periods if you can't actually do it.

> Reinhard
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Adrian Overbury wrote:
> I'm having trouble adding the graphs I want to one of my graph trees in 
> 0.8.7b.  I'm trying to give myself an overview of all the servers I 
> monitor by adding graphs to the root of one of my trees.  I'm trying to 
> add the Monthly graph view for each of the graphs in question, but when 
> I go and view the graphs, they're always the Daily view instead.  Is 
> this a known bug that I'm just not Googling well enough for?
> 
> Adrian

When adding a graph to a tree, you can't specify a timespan per graph.

Instead, when viewing any graph, you may change the timespan for the whol list
of graphs via "Preset". This can be chosen on a "per user" base, see "Settings"
in graph mode
Reinhard

I'm having trouble adding the graphs I want to one of my graph trees in 
0.8.7b.  I'm trying to give myself an overview of all the servers I 
monitor by adding graphs to the root of one of my trees.  I'm trying to 
add the Monthly graph view for each of the graphs in question, but when 
I go and view the graphs, they're always the Daily view instead.  Is 
this a known bug that I'm just not Googling well enough for?

Adrian

I was wondering if it's possible to have a data source assigned to a 
host that will be polled along with the rest, but has no assigned graph?

I'm setting up thold alerting, and I want to collect and alert on data 
that I don't need to see in my graphs (for example I find it more 
helpful to see disk usage in a used/free stacked graph instead of a 
percentage consumed, but it's easier to set up a threshold on a 
percentage, so I want to collect both but only bother graphing one).  Is 
this possible?

Adrian

Let's assume I have one minute poller that runs every minute and I have
two different rra's designed to update one per minute and one per day. 

My question is the following: Every time the poller runs, would it query
the one per day ds only or all datasources every polling cycle? I know
it won't update the once a day rra, but would it query the device every
minute? This is important because I have a custom scripts to check some
db stats and running this script every minute against a production db
increases the load on db dramatically and this is no good.

Thanks in advance for the info.

Regards,

hasan

I don't believe 1.3.x is available for Windows.

Ceylan, Hasan wrote:
> I have cacti version 0.8.7a. Can I use rrdtool version 1.3.x with this
> version of cacti. On settings page, I only see 1.1.x and 1.2.x version
> listed. 
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I have cacti version 0.8.7a. Can I use rrdtool version 1.3.x with this
version of cacti. On settings page, I only see 1.1.x and 1.2.x version
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