No, polyamory can’t be a thing.

I’ve been sniffing new prudishness coming on fast. The whole feeling of ick for the 40-year-old guy hitting on a twenty-something female itself doesn’t gross anyone out. It’s an opportunity to register disgust for complicated sexual situations.

In the 1970s for a brief time and thanks to the Jesus Freaks, a New Chastity was going around. They call it something different every time… this time it’s starting in odd places like Men Going Their Own Way. In the seventies, it was Joyce Maynard calling all men pigs. But the same tune all the same.

What’s the New Current Thing?

Thanks to Boomers, a gerontocracy and dementia.

What’s the New Current Thing?

I don’t know, but I know who’ll be supporting it.

A lot of polygamous men from the developing world have 2nd or 3rd wives who are much younger.
Will that be accepted by New York Times readers ? (and no, not asking for a friend).

Pedophilia is only “taboo” when older straight non-alpha men go for younger but legal women.

Pedophilia is just fine when older women teachers go for their students — many of them don’t see jail, or only have light sentences. And homosexuals are very strongly pushing to lower or remove the ages of consent or reduce penalties for violating it, as they already have in your California. Jean Paul-Sarte and Ruth Bader Ginsburg live again!

No, the future is that straight men who aren’t Chads will be legally restricted from dating any woman not approved by the hens. Likely, it will require a local Coven of Women to vote on such matters.

Meanwhile, 8 year olds will be raped by gay 50 year olds and it will be celebrated.

The New Thing among the masses of Americans is the growing disenchantment about the USA Thingie. Nobody can even define what the USA is anymore.

Young White men are less likely to be suckered into defending it. There is also a growing disenchantment over the concept of universal rights. In practice, this belief was just a way to cuck White men into working for and dying for others who would never return the favor.

Look for young White men to stop recognizing and enforcing the “rights” of others.

I’m a younger millennial and I notice that a lot of 30 something’s moving back into their aging boomer parents homes. Economy isn’t good obviously. The next big thing is millennials inheriting their boomer parents empty McMansions?

In Los Angeles, it’s idiot negroes leading high speed car chases… every… fucking… day.

These happened quite recently…

https://www.youtube.com/live/1cVjjmLFmyo?si=Acm3qUkCMTJxuGJi

In the vid below, the idiot negro survived, but six others did not. She had multiple reckless driving charges prior to this doozy.

Question: Are there any stats available delineating the race of the leaders of So. Cal car chases and resulting deaths? I’m doubting it, since the stats would very likely lean absurdly towards negro offenders, enough so that would appear to be “a new thing.”

Miscegenation for Whites.

Not new but always a constant massive push by the hostile ruling ‘elite’.

https://www.moviemaker.com/drive-away-dolls-ethan-coen-tricia-cooke/

Drive-Away Dolls: How Ethan Coen and Tricia Cooke’s Long Marriage Shaped Their Lesbian Road-Trip Movie

I believe that because Google is an established reservoir of existential evil, and because nobody knows how to even begin to regulate them, they and others of the same evil ilk, like Microsoft and Meta, will vigorously and single-mindedly manipulate their A.I. algorithms to successfully influence the next presidential election in ways we cannot currently imagine.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ai-chatbots-inaccurate-election-information-proof-news/?ref=biztoc.com

So apparently bisexuality is lower than queerdom on the intersectionality chart?

‘Ethan Coen’s New Movie Has Disastrous Box Office Opening, Misses Top 5 In First Weekend’

You know, lesbians and adult nerds just aren’t all that interesting.

Interesting, Steve that in the context of traditional Yemeni polygamy you put the words ‘bastard’ and ‘saddle’ together – I don’t know if this was intentional or not.

Etymologically, we are told, the English word ‘bastard’ is derived from the Norman French ‘fils de bast’ which means ‘son of the pack saddle’, the notion being a man on the road, so to speak, left off illegitimate offspring with some women of easy virtue he met along the way.
Incidentally, that ancient English army term ‘batman’ meaning a private soldier being assigned as an officer’s body servant is also derived from ‘bast’, meaning saddle in that a big duty of a batman was preparing his master’s pack saddle every morning.

Shades of that famous Orwell passage in which he lumps together ‘nudists, pacifists, vegetarians and lunatics’.
That passage always raises a smile with me, with that masterly juxtaposition of ‘nudist’ and ‘lunatic’ with the rest of the soy boys.
One can almost imagine the straightlaced chain smoking Edwardian gent, Orwell, in his bemused contempt.

I’m down for cannibalism, bestiality, necrophilia, pederasty, and coprophilia. Those are all things that trigger extreme disgust, and the Left seems to have this need to cause offense in normal people while calling it a ‘phobia’. The trick is introducing these horrors gradually enough to make them acceptable to their own kind first. First, they’ll have to make the extreme perverts in their ranks appear to be sympathetic victims rather than sick fetishists and lunatics.

The “Next Thing” by definition has to be the most abhorrent thing to the current Orthodoxy. Sexual deviancy just doesn’t have the same kick any more.

Looking at the demographic trend in the US my guess is serious anti-Semitism. Not “Opposition to full on Zionism is anti-Semitism,” anti-Semitism or “casting a Gentile in a Jewish role is hate,” anti-Semitism, but some serious violence.

Sincerely hope I’m wrong.

Immigrants are destroying the standard of living in Western nations.

Same thing in Canada — they liberalized immigration policy particularly in the student visa category (a policy @elonmusk supports) which only led to massive abuse of the program.

The LEGAL immigration surge has only led to economic decline in Canada. pic.twitter.com/kSfQWkCApM

— U.S. Tech Workers (@USTechWorkers) February 28, 2024

This makes polygamy expensive for the provider, so it’s fairly rare in the Arab world.

well it’s not because they don’t want to, it’s because they can’t (see “countries that restrict polygyny”)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygyny_in_Islam

Is that the next thing? Beta males marrying ugly lesbians?

Look “self sabotage”.

“O’vhey” are investing on divide and control to make “anti woke” troupe, generally cuck, more and more “anti woke” (but never anti jew).

Are you a person with a three-digit IQ who likes writing down rules and then rewriting them when they don’t work, who likes to tell yourself that you aren’t a slave to your sexual passions like all those underclass rednecks with their “random families”? You are instead an ethical polyamorist.

For what it’s worth, I briefly shared an apartment with a three-digit IQ guy who prominently displayed The Ethical Polyamorist or some such title on the coffee table. (It was the first time I saw the phrase, and my initial thought was, “Dude, if you want to step out on your girlfriend, then step out on your girlfriend. You don’t need to make a pseudo-philosophical movement out of it!”) As it emerged, this ethical polyamory business extended not only beyond plain old monogamy, but beyond gender, race, and perhaps species. The “Ethical Polyamory” title was just lying there as a slightly subtle announcement that you might share his intimacy tonight but tomorrow he’d be sharing his intimacy with _______ [fill in the blank, just don’t tell me how you did it, please].

Now that Steve mentions it, “ethical polyamory” may also have served as a class status marker, sort of like “Effective Altruism” before that FTX weirdo nuked the brand: “I’m not some flyover lowbrow doing random stuff to please my amygdala, there is a method here, people!” A method of cobbled-together hippie vagaries in mutual contradiction, perhaps, but a “method” nonetheless.

Speaking of new turns of phrase, this is the first I’m seeing this “random families” phrase, though I’ve seen plenty enough of the actuality, but I didn’t know there was a book called that, and from 20 years ago no less, back when the FBI still investigated criminals rather than political opponents, quaint as that sounds now. The book comes with an endorsement from Alex “There Are No Children Here” Kotlowitz, a book I actually have read and can tell you is badly observed and badly written, so if that’s the authority on which one reads Random Families, no thanks, but I guess there was (is?) a cultural moment where very white people retail the supposed travails of dusky nobodies for publishing credit.

And speaking of very white people…

the polyamorists—who tend to be extremely white, Scott Alexander-level white

“Scott Alexander-level white”, lol. Oh wait, is “Scott Alexander-level white” a dog whistle for Ashk mischling…

The next big thing for the left will be a four year long acute case of Trump Derangement Syndrome after Trump becomes president again. Biden’s approval ratings have sunk so low that not even vote fraud in the big Democrat run cities will push him across the finish line.

Things like the recent survey of political science academics saying Biden is the 14th best president of all time while Trump comes in last aren’t going to help Biden either. Intelligent people know now that the higher education system is woke through and through so a bunch of leftist college professors giving Trump a flunking grade as president is just something they laugh at.

Years ago I noticed Howard Stern had started doing fewer bits with lesbians (who obviously had quickly become extremely passe) and more with incestuous-y themed stuff (see, e.g., “That’s Just Wrong”). On the belief Stern had the best instincts on the direction of Western Degeneracy of anyone, I assumed incest would be the Next Current Thing. Obviously didn’t happen–I suppose it smacked too much of Appalachian hillbillies for the elites and their attendant pop culture to ever latch onto.

Anywho, perhaps is correct, and we’ll see something totally different such as a rise in hard-core antisemitism. And maybe in no small part due to our importing of 3rd world hordes with all their backwardness and lack of sophisticated self-delusion. Perhaps the relentless protests against Israel, miraculously persisting in the face of massive establishment pushback, are an indicator. Maybe Aaron Bushnell will be the Current Thing’s patron saint. Who knows. The future might actually be written, but we aren’t on that page yet even if so.

Could be something financial, as suppressed economic fragility menacingly bubbles up … like maybe the implementation of the long-standing Wall Street legend of ‘red money’ as a sudden forced replacement of existing US physical cash

In the world there is maybe 1 to 2 trillion in physical cash that is mostly stored and not used, the majority of this in USA ‘green’ dollars … this includes global ultra-rich, drug dealers, and political actors with millions in US cash

The idea here, is that a final great ‘financial stimulus’ can be done, by a sudden USA announcement, that the ‘green’ US dollars valid for 150+ years, will shortly be invalid in a few months, replaced by new notes of ‘red money’ … according to Wall Street lore, ‘red money’ dollars are already printed up in US gov warehouses and are ready to go
https://seekingalpha.com/article/213546-conspiracy-theory-11-red-money

The trillion or two in cash suddenly flooding in to the real economy, buying many goods and services as global actors are forced to launder their old ‘green money’, would keep things going a little longer … society’s submissives will express fawning loyalty to the new ‘red money’ regime

A movie was planned about this ‘Red Money’ that began production in 2019-2020, but it was cut short by ‘covid’

What’s next? Many on the right argued that it had to be pedophilia, mostly because that grossed them out the most.

About 4 1/2 years ago, Audacious Epigone predicted pedophilia indeed, but I thought it’d be polygamy: https://www.unz.com/anepigone/voluntarily-acting-on-involuntary-feelings/#comment-3575522

[Audacious Epigone] the next outpost of traditional morality to fall in the culture war will be the taboo on pedophilia.

I think polygamy (esp. polyandry) is more likely. I see it – ever so slowly – being pushed in mass media.

I also wrote at the time:

[RSDB] Interesting. Could you give some examples of the kind of thing you were thinking of?

There was a series of articles in either the NYT or WaPo about “polyamory” couples in the last couple of years, which portrays the latter positively and “empowering” for women in particular.

I just watched an episode of “Silicon Valley,” in which a character admits to cuckolding another, and the latter happily replies, “That’s okay – we’re poly” and merrily goes on to support funding the former. I’ve seen this insertion of “polyamory,” especially that of women with multiple partners outside marriage here and there recently (though I admit, I don’t watch a whole lot of TV shows).

My speculation is that “polyamory” (which generally favors female promiscuity if the females in question are married*) is a Trojan Horse (no pun intended) for polygamy/polyandry.

*It seems to me that when a married couple has an “open marriage,” the typical outcome is that the woman has lots of sexual partners while the man has few (usually one or two at most). At that point, the man becomes either disgruntled or falls in love with another woman and seeks dissolution of the marriage. He then marries the other woman. Meanwhile, the divorced wife may have lots of sexual partners, but has trouble getting married again, especially if she has children from the first marriage.

World War P, huh?

None Of The Above.

Although polyamory does seem like a recipe for split families and fatherless children, which seems to be what our betters want for us.

Over in Europe there’s definitely a mutter of distant drums. That could be the next big thing. The place seems to be full of young women politicos who think Something Must Be Done (by Someone Else) about Ukraine. Maybe white feathers will make a comeback.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/28/estonia-youngest-mp-hanah-lahe-interview

“My generation’s heart aches for Ukraine, not because we lived through a war, but because we have the negative imprint of Russian invasion from our heritage. It matters to everyone who is Estonian how things are going in Ukraine,” says Lahe. She is clear: Ukrainian victory is the only path to securing Europe: “There really isn’t any other option.”

OK, US Army recruitment is down (again), but who’s to say that the Emotional Engineers who transformed Occupy Wall Street into Black Lives Matter can’t do it all again?

The whole world is starting to look like Idiocracy:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/28/birth-rate-japan-record-low-2023-data-details

The number of babies born in Japan last year fell for an eighth straight year to a new low, government data has shown, and a top official says it is critical for the country to reverse the trend in the coming half-dozen years. The 758,631 babies born in Japan in 2023 were a 5.1% decline from the previous year, according to the Health and Welfare Ministry on Tuesday. It was the lowest number of births since Japan started compiling the statistics in 1899. The number of marriages fell by 5.9% to 489,281 couples, falling below a half million for the first time in 90 years – one of the key reasons for the declining births.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/28/south-korea-fertility-rate-2023-fall-record-low-incentives

The average number of children a South Korean woman has during her lifetime fell to 0.72, from 0.78 in 2022 – a decline of nearly 8% – according to preliminary data from Statistics Korea, a government-affiliated body. The rate is well below the average of 2.1 children the country needs to maintain its current population of 51 million. Since 2018, South Korea has been the only member of the Organisation for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD) to have a rate below 1. In addition, South Korean women give birth for the first time at the average age of 33.6 – the highest among OECD members. If the low fertility rate persists, the population of Asia’s fifth-biggest economy is projected to almost halve to 26.8 million by 2100, according to the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington in Seattle.

North Korea’s fertility per female is 1.91, if this is correct:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_North_Korea

None Of The Above.

Although polyamory does seem like a recipe for split families and fatherless children, which seems to be what our betters want for us.

Over in Europe there’s definitely a mutter of distant drums. That could be the next big thing. The place seems to be full of young women politicos who think Something Must Be Done (by Someone Else) about Ukraine. Maybe white feathers will make a comeback.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/28/estonia-youngest-mp-hanah-lahe-interview

“My generation’s heart aches for Ukraine, not because we lived through a war, but because we have the negative imprint of Russian invasion from our heritage. It matters to everyone who is Estonian how things are going in Ukraine,” says Lahe. She is clear: Ukrainian victory is the only path to securing Europe: “There really isn’t any other option.”

OK, US Army recruitment is down (again), but who’s to say that the Emotional Engineers who transformed Occupy Wall Street into Black Lives Matter can’t do it all again?

The whole world is starting to look like Idiocracy:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/28/birth-rate-japan-record-low-2023-data-details

The number of babies born in Japan last year fell for an eighth straight year to a new low, government data has shown, and a top official says it is critical for the country to reverse the trend in the coming half-dozen years. The 758,631 babies born in Japan in 2023 were a 5.1% decline from the previous year, according to the Health and Welfare Ministry on Tuesday. It was the lowest number of births since Japan started compiling the statistics in 1899. The number of marriages fell by 5.9% to 489,281 couples, falling below a half million for the first time in 90 years – one of the key reasons for the declining births.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/28/south-korea-fertility-rate-2023-fall-record-low-incentives

The average number of children a South Korean woman has during her lifetime fell to 0.72, from 0.78 in 2022 – a decline of nearly 8% – according to preliminary data from Statistics Korea, a government-affiliated body. The rate is well below the average of 2.1 children the country needs to maintain its current population of 51 million. Since 2018, South Korea has been the only member of the Organisation for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD) to have a rate below 1. In addition, South Korean women give birth for the first time at the average age of 33.6 – the highest among OECD members. If the low fertility rate persists, the population of Asia’s fifth-biggest economy is projected to almost halve to 26.8 million by 2100, according to the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington in Seattle.

North Korea’s fertility per female is 1.91, if this is correct:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_North_Korea

If the NY Times has any success convincing young people that polyamory is a good idea we can expect future articles about a “perplexing” rise in family-annihilation murders.

Utopians have been trying polyamory pretty much forever. It has never worked out, but that doesn’t stop people from trying it over and over again.

I can’t figure out whether to envy or pity Mr. Coen (is she forcing him to look on while she sleeps around? are they enjoying four-person orgies?), but I’m definitely thinking: don’t try this at home.

He is pretty pale.

There is a sense in which he is very typical of the sort of San Francisco/Brooklyn lefty upper middle class that has very few black or Latino people (though a fair number of Asians), i.e. fitting minority stereotypes of white people as responsible, studious, unwilling to get into fights and generally wimpy, etc.

Scott Alexander’s kind of a funny case as his politics are more libertarian anti-SJW from what I can tell. (He doesn’t talk about Israel or immigration much and he probably has more fans on the right than left at this point.)

So he’s not white in the 50s ‘red-blooded American’ sense most of you mean here, but he is white in the ‘Stuff White People Like’ sense.

OK, but are the polyamorists Jewish? From my experience it’s pretty typical of the woke UMC, i.e. more than 2% but way less than 100. I’d probably estimate 25 or 33%–less than a majority but a significantly overrepresented minority.

I don’t know, if your wife is bringing other women home you might be able to come to some accommodation (“only if I can watch”), but it’s probably not sustainable – are the Coens still married and how are their kids turning out?

The only long-term sustainable polyamory is probably the oldest one, the Big Man with multiple wives/significant others. Women would probably rather have Alpha one day a week than Omega 24/7.

Steve,

If you are going to keep writing about trans issues, then one should look up who wrote a book “Troubled” about growing up poor and from a broken family but ending up at Yale and Cambridge.

https://www.robkhenderson.com/

https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Troubled/Rob-Henderson/9781982168537

Dr Henderson is trying to coin the term “luxury belief” to describe who the elite like the idea of trans or polyamory but only for others.

I knew a bunch of these a while back, and posted an entirely too-long comment (before discovering the MORE tag) about a month ago.

Basically the wokies took it from the geeks, who took it from the hippies, though there was a history before that with the Bloomsbury circle and the Oneida community, etc. They’ll go after you for trying to be a couple looking for a woman or a guy who’ll let his wife/girlfriend date other women but not other men (which I thus assume are fairly popular arrangements.) However, if you open your relationship, the woman will get much more sex, as you have many more men willing to sleep with a married woman than vice versa. (Thus the popularity among feminists.)

Throuples are actually fairly rare–you either have a person who stays uncommitted (‘solo poly’ or ‘playing the field’ as they used to call it) or multiple unconnected relationships (a ‘Z’ or ‘W’, etc.).

Lots of LGBTQ people, lots of ugly people, lots of people into BDSM.

Terrible for childrearing–you might think having more responsible adults around would be good, but these people are rarely responsible.

What’s next? Many on the right argued that it had to be pedophilia, mostly because that grossed them out the most. But all the trends point in the opposite direction: For example, the woke are increasingly disgusted by the thought of a 35-year-old man marrying a 25-year-old woman (presumably, a trend driven by all the single 35-year-old women fearing being permanently left on the shelf by single 35-year-old men).

While various types of sexual behavior has been normalized in recent decades, I’ve noticed an increasingly strong societal taboo emerging around “older” men dating “younger” women.

For example, if you were in your mid 30s and married a girl in her mid 20s, you’d be viewed as a “sexual predator.”

In today’s world, homosexuals and transgenders are more “normal” than 35 year-old guys who want a wife in her 20s.

Who could’ve seen this coming?

In related World War T news, Virginia Lt. Governor Winsome Sears (R) has found herself in a bit of hot water for accidentally referring to senator Danica Rhome (D) as “sir” when recognizing “her” to speak. Sears turns 60 next month and is black.

I wonder if the percentage of TG individuals in the black community is lower than it is in the general population. I bet it is, as black people, despite their various exploits, tend to be more conservative than white Democrats in certain areas. Someone like RuPaul is more of a drag queen than a transwoman per se. Wikipedia, which has an autistic army protecting its articles, refers to RuPaul with male pronouns. RuPaul is married to a man and is a cousin of bachelor U.S. Senator Cory Booker (D-NJ).

Indeed. One of several reasons European women, when kidnapped and finding themselves in Islamic lands, thought it was paradise compared to marriage to some filthy medieval peasant and often refused to be ransomed back.

Trophy wives are out of style. That is one of the reasons why college educated whites do not support Trump compared to blue collar whites.

TG is redundant among bleks, as their women are already high-T; e.g. Michael Obama and most female rappers, who tend to look like linebackers.

I think he probably isn’t enjoying himself too much domestically, but he gets to keep making movies, which is important for those sorts of artsy people. So I guess it’s kind of a win.

The next big thing will be animal rights.

Your cheeseburger will be taxed or legislated out of existence–probably in the name of climate change.

> What’s the New Current Thing? Thanks to Boomers, a gerontocracy and dementia.

As Trotsky quipped, “You may not be interested in Unfunded Liabilities and Currency Collapse, but they are interested in you.”

1. Since the U.S. is still in the gradually phase, this won’t be the next New Current Thing.

2. Given the NYT’s exquisite aversion to offending the amour propre of its paying subscribers, the acticle count will be a lagging rather than leading indicator of this exciting trend.

World War P, huh?

But not the Pedo– P . . . yet.

The advantage for the Left in Poly-amory/gamy/andry/whatevery is that it allows them to lasso together a bunch of otherwise mutually hostile groups in their Coalition of Fringes.

Pederasty, Bestiality, and other such abominations do naturally appeal to the Left, and are still on their list for future normalization (“Minor Attracted Person” and “Zoophilia”—the euphemisms are ready and waiting), but neither offers the immediate political advantage of uniting white betaboy polyamorists with “proud African Muslim polygamists” with lesbian serial predators with empowered wahmen with whatever other polymorphous perversity is out there.

Steve observes that these natural aversions could be a “sticking point”, but that is the whole purpose of Coalition-(of the Fringes)-building, or as Obama’s handlers called it, Community Organizing: you get the higher-IQ leaders of the various mutually antagonistic groups to overlook their immediate antagonism and to focus their animosity instead on the Real Enemy: heritage America, i.e., you.

If you want to see an easily visible instance of this in action, watch Friend-Of-Barack Henry Louis Gates’s Finding Your Roots TV show. The guests are selected for having some kind of Dem Coalition-of-the-Fringes marker: homosexual, colored, Jewish, children of immigrants, whatever. Then at some point in the show, typically when the guest is emotionally vulnerable from the revelation of an ancestor’s hardship, Gates will close in and elicit a pledge of allegiance to the Woke World Order: “I’ll never forget how my people were mistreated just as others are being mistreated right now!”, “I’ll never again question the lived experience of a migrant!”, etc., etc. Such often tearful oaths are extracted by the host, recorded by the cameras, and then broadcast to the world with state (i.e. your) subsidy.

World War P and the Coalition of the Fringes will be making beautiful music together.

My guess is that some form of polygamy will instead be next, with computer nerds who lack the gene for sexual jealousy demanding “polyamory” and NGOs servicing African refugees insisting that Mr. Nguma and all four Ms. Ngumas and their nineteen children be let in because “love is love,” and if you don’t approve of polygamy you’re racist.

Indeed, it’s like a clown world Marvel Justice League Meme All Star Team-Up!

Pedophilia is just fine when older women teachers go for their students

The left wing anti-pedophilia movement is so strong that a 40 year old woman in New Hampshire has just been indicted for having sex with an 18 year old man. She may receive a 3 year jail sentence.

https://eu.seacoastonline.com/story/news/local/2024/02/14/teacher-accused-of-sex-with-18-year-old-student-to-plead-guilty/72578966007/

Even 10 years ago I think that would have seemed prima facie ridiculous to 99% of the population.

I think the next goal of the gay lobby will be to persuade prosecutors to stop bringing charges against homosexual men who seduce adolescent males. That’s not really what you mean by ‘the new current thing’. The ‘transgender’ craze is helpful to the gay lobby because it legitimates perversion generally and because social workers, lawyers, and mental health types have been demonstrably willing to strip parents of their authority over their children to advance the interests of deviants.

Many on the right argued that it had to be pedophilia, mostly because that grossed them out the most.

There is a consensus on the left, and even mainstream America, that pedophiles are by nature right wing. And indeed, pretty much every case of man on boy pedophilia that gets publicity tends to be conservative male authority figures (priests, evangelicals, Boy Scout leaders, football coaches, politicians). This plays into the left wing narrative that man-on-boy pedophilia is the product of closeting homosexuals and making them ashamed of their true urges. The fact that conservatives unvariably come out in droves to defend creeps like Sandusky, Frank Houston or the Catholic Church just further associates pedophilia with the right-wing in the minds of most Americans.

The stereotypical lefty pedophile is usually a creepy loser who uses his authority to pick up and “groom” young women. Biden certainly seems like someone who could be in that box. Mike Pence is the kind of weirdo conservative who would surprise no one if it turned out he liked diddling 9 year old boys in the shower.

“with catastrophic consequences for impressionable and moody young girls.”

Males are 2-4 times more likely to “transition” than females.

“Many on the right argued that it had to be pedophilia, mostly because that grossed them out the most…. ”

Huh? Can you provide an example for this claim (I know you won’t actually)? Many people have argued that the next big thing, meaning the nest big victory for homosexual degeneracy, is the decriminalization of adult homosexual men grooming and buggering pubescent aged boys. That isn’t pedophilia. You continue:

“…But all the trends point in the opposite direction: For example, the woke are increasingly disgusted by the thought of a 35-year-old man marrying a 25-year-old woman”

Your comparison is flawed. You first reference “the right” when dismissing the incorrect classification of pedophilia, but then point to the “woke” (strangely, not the “left”) when validating their supposed beliefs. So half the population’s (the right) beliefs don’t constitute a trend, but the other half’s (the woke) beliefs do?

Further, the unspoken reason the woke dislike older men and younger women is because it is 1. perfectly natural, 2. a normal occurrence throughout history, and 3. it facilities people (namely, whites) having more children (whether they actually do is another matter) and that by itself is what the woke is disgusted by.

This is validated by the plausible assumption that most of those woke people who disapprove of older men and younger women would absolutely celebrate older men grooming younger males for homosexual relations.

Further still, if polyamory is the next thing, are the woke on board? I mean, if they don’t like an older man marrying a single younger woman, how are they going to feel about an older man marrying 2 or 3 or 4 younger women? Because that is likely the most probable outcome.

I think as Steve alludes that Poly won’t work. Gay and Trans people were groups of people who were marginalised outgroups whom mainstream people could be persuaded to treat with sympathy and enforce new moral standards which treat them, like physically disabled or disfigured people as out of bounds of abuse. People who are low status or who have insufficient social connections or insufficiently high status social connections tend to be abused by people who have more high status of these things or who are just generally psychos.

Did you condemn Obama in 2012?

Same proof as Putin doing it. pic.twitter.com/iKvqxj6wJI

— ☘ The Sober Irishman ☘ (@NCMuscleCars001) February 20, 2024

What’s the New Current Thing?

Hm, where have “the current things” arisen in the past?

That is, what are the test markets for moral panics? (I am of the opinion that Hanlon’s Razor is what powerful and malicious people want the peasants to believe)

Candidates for moral panic test markets that come to my rather provincial mind are Cambridge and Somerville, Massachusetts and the administration of Boston’s current mayor Michelle Wu.

I suspect a Cambridge association with the usage of “African American” (now apparently falling out of favor) as Barak Obama’s star was rising there, while he attended Harvard Law, contemporaneously with Jesse Jackson’s promotion of the epithet. https://www.nytimes.com/1989/01/31/us/african-american-favored-by-many-of-america-s-blacks.html

Crucially too North Korea also has a more balanced age demography too, they didn’t have a big baby boom and now bust. They have a more steady state demography. This too, will be what replaces the current weird demography of the industrial world (And much of the third world too) once the baby boom passes through the system.

Which is why using immigration to “solve” it is inherently stupid. It will solve itself. People are adapting to the new economy and way of life. The baby boom was just an aberration caused by massively lowered infant death rates, low use of contraception and women still not working as much combined with big post-war booms in opportunity.

In North Korea they have a command economy under massive US sanctions, there have been no “booms” but also no “busts” in the same way there for many decades. And women were encouraged to have 2 children and no more for many decades too.

Though unlike North Korea the West will continue for the foreseeable future have too big a financialised economy and big booms and busts which will have demographic impacts, they won’t be as intense as that which caused by the baby boom.

Some Jew wrote a book about white rural hate blah blah…you should read the x comments! Talk about an awakening, of course he’s crying out in pain.

But, so far, the polyamorists—who tend to be extremely white, Scott Alexander-level white—have signally failed to make an alliance with their seeming natural allies, the masses of the Sahel.

Perhaps the most depressing of all the depressing current things is that there are “masses from the Sahel” here for weirdos to make alliances with.

More like, the Coen brothers belonged to a now-gone past era when people actually liked movies, implicitly understood the basics of film language, and knew how to parse a particular work. Nobody takes the trouble now to parse a Current Year propaganda cut-your-son’s-dick-off clip.

All dead now. Sort of like opera.

It’s a good way for straight white libs to get in on the whole sexual identity smorgasbord without cutting any body parts off.

Oh, Steve. The 25-year-old men are just as likely to be grossed out that a woman hid age would go with an elderly competitor.

Like, sure he’s got more money but can he even get it up anymore? She must have Daddy Issues, man.

Terrible for childrearing–you might think having more responsible adults around would be good, but these people are rarely responsible.

Agreed.

But I think it’s even worse than that. What kids really need/want is some sort of stability–people who love them, who put their needs first, like breakfast in the morning, a packed lunch box and some dinner at 6.

But people sleeping around flat out means instability, as new passions flare or old ones–perhaps the ones between the parents wane. This is especially true for women sleeping around, as women get these big hormone doses that encourage them to bond with a man they sleep with.

If you want high quality parental provision, then you really want the traditional–ideally with dad on mom 3 times a week keeping everything humming and the bond strong.

I read that some schools in Japan were prohibiting girls from wearing pigtails or ponytails because boys were being driven insane by the sight of the nape of the neck. And then, curious about this, I did some research and read that nape-o-philia, while more pronounced in Japan, was making inroads in the US. So, I will nominate nape-o-philia as the next big – – okay, small-sized big – – thing.

Is that the next thing? Beta males marrying ugly lesbians?

Would that make them a beard and a mustache?

Instead of a Boston Marriage, how about a San Francisco Marriage? A Cape Cod Peace?

Your description of the protectors of Wikipedia is terrific, Scarlet. Maybe we should call them the Grand Army of the Autistic?

Regarding the relation between Rupaul and Sen. Booker, has anyone ever seen them together, in the same place at the same time?

Rick Santorum brought up polygamy (and bestiality and incest) as the next legal “right” over a decade ago and was ridiculed.

Apply a prison test to each new movement. How are they tolerated, or not, as inmates. Pedos, read Chomos, are met with instant revulsion in that environment. Other sub-groups might last a little while longer.

I think the incidence might be higher. Recall that at one point the top three 400M runners in the world were all African men pretending to be women. Then there’s the hulking Brittney Griner, who genuinely comes across as a California surfer dude who posts at iSteve.

We also could be talking about different phenomena. Anecdotally, androgen uptake issues seem more prevalent among blacks with more RuPauls with definite gay voice and mannerisms versus the typical former athlete/PhD /Navy SEAL white tranny. (Caitlyn Jenner walks, talks and plays golf exactly like the elderly retired decathlete he is.)

What’s the New Current Thing?

Thanks to Boomers…

I was going to say fools and morons pushing tenuous “generation” labels, but that’s been a Thing for a while now, hasn’t it?

She’s old enough to have tats, so that isn’t statutory nape.

For 2024, I suspect that there will be more discussions and product announcements in both nootropics/neuroenhancements (psychedelics) and weight management (GLP-1 receptor agonists, etc). Long live the global industrial complex.

a 40 year old woman in New Hampshire has just been indicted for having sex with an 18 year old man. She may receive a 3 year jail sentence.

She won’t.

In general, men are prosecuted more, imprisoned more, and receive more prison time for these.

https://www.nj.com/news/2013/04/a_look_at_teacher-student_sex.html

I actually don’t think that is necessarily wrong, but this is one of those cases where two leftist shibboleths (feminism, equalism) collide with each other, resulting in chaotic outcomes. But don’t worry, leftist social scientists are still hard at work on ways to have their cake and eat it too.

If 35 yo women had sense, they’d toss hypergamy aside and start pursuing 18 yo boys/men while they (the cougars) can still conceive. Let the old dudes have their trophy wives.

A lot of this novelty-hunting in sexual relations and behavior springs from the no-fault divorce revolution of about a half century ago. Before this revolution a word association test for “marriage” would produce words like “duty” and “responsibility.” After the revolution, the same association test would produce “rights,” or “privileges” or “benefits.”

Before no-fault divorce, marriage was basically a state in which the government stood ready to coerce both spouses to fulfill duties to one another, like support, sexual relations and help in child-raising. After no-fault, the government is mostly coercing the rest of society, employers and taxpayers, to confer benefits and subsidies and privileges on whatever parties were supposed to be “married.”

Why do you hope you’re wrong?

Macron openly fantasizes about using NATO troops in Ukraine. A general strike in all NATO countries is necessary.

“Luxury belief” is a good term. Steve has actually talked about this. E.g. single motherhood is fine if mom is a stable multimillionaire lesbian like Jody Foster. But lower class Shaniqua or Cheyenne need to try and get married and stay married. Charles Murray refers to it as getting the elites to preach what they practice.

After the tumult of Paris 1968, from which date, maybe coincidentally or not, governments across the west more or less refused to prosecute the purveyors of hard core pornography – that is the photographic depiction of actual sexual intercourse, (the left of that time counter this amongst their victories, ironically, given how the woke left of today hates porn), Daniel Bendit-Cohn, (Dirty Bandit-Pervert, more like), waxed lyrically about the joys of pedophilia. This made pedophilia trendy amongst hard left leaders of the time, who thought cooties were to be made by parroting the lines of a lefty demi god like Cohn-Bendit.
The Labour Party MP, Harriett Harman, who was briefly and totally forgettable Labour Party leader openly advocated for pedophiles in the 1970s UK.

Thanks.

The South Korea stats were on the BBC radio just now. Some remarks were on the adversity between men and women in that country. Looks like they absorbed the message from modern tastemakers a little too eagerly.

The post 1991 expansion of the EU into central and eastern Europe was a monumental, colossal mistake.
Many are starting to realise this.

…now have a transgender identity, which makes them sacred and entitled to abuse anybody lower on the pyramid of identity-politics privilege.

EXCLUSIVE: Female Inmate Forced to Bunk with Masturbating Transgender Prisoner Who Raped Daughter, Messages Claim

Where is the Eighth Amendment when you need it? Oh, yeah… that’s what put this guy in a cell with her. Anarcho-tyranny in practice.

“Some of the female prisoner’s graphic descriptions of Campbell’s masturbation habits indicate that Campbell may have undergone a vaginoplasty, wherein surgeons remove the penis, testicles, and scrotum…”

Taycheedah = Detach? Yeah!

“After the revolution, the same association test would produce ‘rights,’ or ‘privileges’ or ‘benefits.’ ”

Substitute the word “and” for “or” and you have the entire “Progressive” agenda in a nutshell.

H. L. Hunt (b. 1889) American oil tycoon and bigamist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._L._Hunt

And then there is mathematician https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ari_Nagel

the government is mostly coercing the rest of society, employers and taxpayers, to confer benefits and subsidies and privileges on whatever parties were supposed to be “married.”

No, 90% went to unmarried or divorced mothers and some non-mothers, the bedrocks of the Party.

If the guy has a fake vagina, his masturbations must be faked as well as his orgasms… I understand he’s a freak but what’s the difference with bunking with a female prisoner who masturbates?

I catch a lot of these chases live because they’re shared on /pol/ a lot, especially the LA ones because the police procedure is to lay back and local news choppers always need something to do.

A lot of the suspects are Hispanic, which isn’t a surprise considering how Hispanic LA County is. There are some black subjects, and the occasional white suspect (though they’re probably Hispanic too).

“getting the elites to preach what they practice”

Or “talk 60s and live 50s”.

Take Ursula von der Leyen, the unelected plagiarist leader of the EU. While campaigning for all things fake and gay, she has seven children.

Having just returned from nine nights in Buenos Aires, I have to say I tend to agree. The Argentine peso is now trades at around 15 percent of where it traded two years ago against the USD, so people walk around with huge wads of 1,000 peso notes (the largest denomination they print) and count out stacks of them to pay for a restaurant dinner. How can we not be headed there in the near future? Beats me.

The whole idea that couples must be very close together in age, preferably so that they would have been higschoolers or college students at the same time seems to be very American (US) and is much less common in other nations.

More common in other countries is that a man establishes himself econonomically either by having a successful career or inheriting through a family business or deceased parents, and then looks for a wife who is young, energetic, and fertile to have his children.

Men, even at the age of 70 are capable of fathering children, but women not so much so.

I think the next goal of the gay lobby will be to persuade prosecutors to stop bringing charges against homosexual men who seduce adolescent males.

They’re already practically immune to prosecution for that. Even in the old days nobody wanted to get involved, usually because they assumed the kid was gay.

How often do you hear about gay men getting arrested for that? And yet if you go to the gay district there are always teenage junkies hanging around the clubs getting picked up by guys cruising around.

Part of the problem is that it’s really hard to find a law-enforcement officer willing or able to play the part of adolescent gay prostitute.

“I’m not much in the business of making predictions about the future, because it’s hard enough to understand what’s happening in the present. I don’t forecast the next big thing so much as try to notice the current thing. My goal is to be a historian of the present.”

Well then, first polyamory, and then it’ll be pedophilia. After all, NAMBLA has been around for nearly half a century, so eventually they’ll persuade the LGBTQ etc to allow them into their community, under “N” or “P”.
After all, if Mary Kay Laturneau and Jeffrey Epstein can have all the fun, then why can’t ordinary folks as well?

Would suppose then after that, the final frontier would be…bestiality. Not much left after those two.

Thanks for that quote I’d forgotten it.

As for:

straightlaced chain smoking Edwardian gent, Orwell

We are talking about the Eric Blair who fought for the communists in the late 1930’s?

One should probably provide a cite on the top three 400 meter runners and when.

As has been pointed out many times, the men in the same economic position as blue collar and pink collar black women act more like another child than as a marriable male who has any prospects for the future. Marriage for those poor black women is more risk with much less reward. Then the question is whether they give up having children or be a single mother.

Part of the definition of the Hajnal line delineation is the later age of marriage of both sexes: later marriage, fewer kids, higher survival rate, more invested in each kid, esp education = more successful society.
And while I’m here, Like Oscar I can resist anything but temptation;

Men, even at the age of 70 are capable of fathering children, but women not so much so.

Demands this.
I believe women’s inability to father children is not age related.

Sorry.

In the Middle Ages, in Europe, even princesses would marry between the ages of 11-16, to much older men.

It’s the current and the future. Maybe when they ban all internal combustion vehicles it’ll end.

Well, it is different. A grown man can physically force a 15 or 16 year old girl to have sex with him, a grown woman can’t physically force a teenage boy to have sex with her. Biologically impossible. And where I grew up, a teenaged boy is going to be overjoyed at having an older woman coming onto him. It should be treated differently because it is different.

True pedophilia, which is sex with a pre-pubescent child, should of course be punished severely, male or female. I favor the death penalty, but life in prison is probably the best we can hope for in this effeminate society.

Hmmm, when I was 25 I thought women 35-40 were sexier ( at least if they took care of themelves.) At 35? Same thing. At 35 you are too old to for the nightclub scene ( that was what we did back then) so a woman your age is more suitable than a girl in her early 20’s.

Poly or celibate for cults of one kind or another. It’s something Steve noticed I think.

Scott Alexander is the most Jewish guy. He’s an early 20th century Viennese degenerate semite on steroids. An unrepentant materialist atheist, transhumanist glorified government drug dealer (read: psychiatrist) who passionately argues for women being promiscuous and for men to be happy cucks while being asexual himself. After all, the worst case scenario for polyamory is a child being abused, and that happens sometimes in monogamous marriages, so…eh, right?

Just recently he gave out one of his grants worth tens of thousands of dollars to a trans person arguing for giving children more rights so that they can pursue underage transitioning regardless of the parents wishes.

The lightness of his skin is irrelevant. Dude is a piece of shit and his articles have never had meaningful positive real world impact – their sole masturbatory value is in showing off his classically Jewish verbal IQ tilt while making the reader feel special for following along. I hope he disappears.

I don’t know if it will be the “New Thing” but the current thing is leftist state governors trying to convince people to take migrants into their homes.

So, combining the trend of millennial children moving back into their parent’s McMansions, there are still empty rooms. So, fill them with migrants, who can help take care of the aging parents, and since these migrants will collect our tax dollars, they can also contribute some money.

New business model.

I agree but cannot select that,

World War T wasn’t ever the next new thing. Transsexuals melted into the general sexual decadence of social decline.

After sexual morality no longer derived from marriage and the role of parenthood , it’s been a free-for-all.

If you can get divorced and remarried, then why can’t you have sex before marriage? If you can have sex before marriage, why can’t it be with either a male or a female as you choose? If you don’t want to be a parent, why can’t you do what you want with your baby? If you don’t want to be a man, why can’t you be a woman?
If you weren’t born in the USA but want to live in America , why can’t you?

Without marriage and strong sexual taboos, no civilization can prosper.

The is no “next thing” when you are just rolling g around in the sewer already.

The ladies who write these articles are inches from going face-first into The Wall and they imagine that some polyamorous arrangements will involve smart, stylish, together women with careers (like them) who are so quirky and irresistable that any number of interesting, variously talented men will be into it.

‘Along Came Poly.’ Not.

This stuff is strictly for nerds and spergs. We already have ‘polyamory.’ You just have to make sure the girls don’t find out about each other.

It’s got nothing to do with America. The Hajnal line predates us by centuries.

Back in 1992 Dan Quayle made a speech criticizing Hollywood for producing movies and TV shows that portrayed single motherhood in a positive light. In particular he criticized the sitcom Murphy Brown.

This became what Biden would call “a big f**king deal” – it was discussed endlessly in the media. Newspaper columnists spilled oceans of ink in their zeal to denounce Quayle as a clueless moron and to venerate Murphy Brown as a veritable goddess of fertility.

When the show returned from summer hiatus, the presidential campaign was in full swing. The season premiere was an hourlong Very Special Episode devoted to ripping Dan Quayle a new one. The critics heaped praise on it.

But then a few days later Ross Perot rejoined the race, and nobody gave a crap about Quayle anymore because they knew that Bush was finished.

And then about twenty years later Candice Bergen admitted that Quayle had been right.

Meanwhile:

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/highlights-from-the-comments-on-polyamory

This all makes a lot more sense if you can remember his old internet posts where he discusses being on SSRI meds non-stop since before puberty and he has no sex drive. Scott may have been the only 22 year old male in the history of the universe with no sex drive. His wife probably has a sex urge for about a half hour once a month but of course that isn’t any of our business.

These are two contradictory things – the people who could BEST afford single parenthood are the ones who least engage in it and the ones who can least afford it do it the most. The rich used to preach “middle class values” to the poor but that’s so judgmental. Can’t be judgmental anymore.

Musk is an exception. He has babies all over the place like some ghetto baby daddy. 11 IIRC. He has custody of one of them and brings him everywhere, accompanied by the kid’s nanny and bodyguard. Musk believes that smart, rich people having a lot of children is eugenic. Nazi!

"My children didn't choose to be born. I chose to have children. They owe me nothing. I owe them everything."

-Elon Musk pic.twitter.com/Pa3YC2NwyZ

— SMX 🇺🇸 (@iam_smx) February 25, 2024

I believe this kid’s name is X Æ A-12 Musk.

Here in California, they marry non-white women. My brother’s first wife had a Mexican mother, who told him she would never marry a Mexican man because they liked to get drunk and beat their wives. Ironically, her white husband was an alcoholic college professor but a non-wife beater. So there is a plentiful non-white female market here for white Betas, considering the competition.

He could have easily followed my grandfathers’ path if he wanted a lot of offspring. They did it the old-fashioned way, with ten and eleven children respectively. What he actually owes his children is a normal,happy family life.

I’ve noticed the femail-centric Daily Mail seems to be pushing the Ultra-Processed-Food trope as being what could be ailing you.

Not just the girls. I have in my career come across several instances where men had two complete families in different cities. They (especially family #1 – the wife to which he is legally married, sometimes the other one knows) only found out about each other only after the man dies. This leads to lawsuits quite often. I am talking about successful white men, not ghetto baby daddies. Lindbergh being a famous example.

Christianity is unusual for requiring monogamy. This was not true of Judaism or of Islam or many Eastern religions. It appears that they inherited this from the Romans. Christianity was a Middle Eastern religion that was taken up by Greeks and Romans and so it has aspects of both cultures. For example they also followed the food customs of the Romans and not the Jews. It may be that certain aspects of culture are deeper than any new religion so that the new religion yields to the deeper practice. Of course this will be given a religious rationalization just as the Christian rationalization as to why the Biblical dietary restrictions no longer apply to them. Or sometimes it is the other way around. Mormons are notoriously white bread American in their culture but certain aspects of their new religion (polygamy) took precedence. When new religion clashes with existing culture it doesn’t always go the same way.

As the West becomes post-Christian/non-Western, it may be that monogamy is a Roman/Christian practice that will fall away.

“I believe this kid’s name is X Æ A-12 Musk.”

I wasn’t sure whether you were being serious or were being sarcastic, so I looked it up. Only a billionaire could do something so bizarre and not completely screw up his kid. Remarkable.

Elon Musk changed son’s name from X Æ A-12 to comply with law

Generally speaking, especially in the past, laws against sex (gay or straight) with teens who are close to (but slightly under) the age of consent are only rarely enforced (or else our prisons would be full) and usually only when it involves someone in a position of authority or is connected with some other incident.

Right now there is a case involving Don Henley of the Eagles and (in order to discredit his character – I really don’t understand why the judge allowed this because it is so irrelevant to the case at hand) he is being cross examined about a 16-year-old prostitute who overdosed at his home in 1980 (at the time he was given probation and a $2,500 fine). And the only reason this came to the attention of the authorities at all was because she overdosed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13131833/The-Eagles-Don-Henley-court-prostitute-overdose.html

The new thing is that academics (and eventualy, judges) will say BIPOCs cannot be guilty of crimes against whites:

“Being guilty of a crime against someone means you have power over that person. Since non-whites have no powers, they cannot be guilty of any crimes against a white person.”

Forget “The Future Is Female.” It’s gonna be replaced by “The Future Is Fani.”

In 1917, Church canon law raised the age of the bride to 14, while the groom had to be 16.

I guess marriages that early were quite uncommon in many parts of Europe, But I still find it a remarkable transformation of views, how many men now claim that any attraction to a girl even slightly under 18 is pedophilia.

The whole idea that couples must be very close together in age, preferably so that they would have been higschoolers or college students at the same time seems to be very American (US) and is much less common in other nations.

It’s not even common in the US.

Nah, they can win this one too if they want. They’ll let Trump win if they think there’s a financial crisis coming (and there is; the national debt is unsustainable). In that case, they’ll want the GOP to take the blame.

Yes, polyamory would be terrible for children.

There is another huge drawback. In a normal household of man, woman, couple of kids, you can never find a damned thing. Somebody didn’t put the can opener back, you find it a few days later under the sink. Or one of the grownups decides to reorganize the kitchen cupboards again. You find your razor in the toilet tank and your shaving cream in the backyard. Your best sweater is missing for some reason. Your socket set is no longer with your tools, but somehow ended up with the pots and pans.

All that would be exponentially worse in a polyamorous household.

The Chicago economists, don’t recall the cite, argued that no-fault divorce worsens the bargaining position of the wife. The party with more resources (can try harder, can wait longer, can more afford to walk away) has a bargaining advantage over the party with fewer resources . On average, wives are at a bargaining disadvantage in a separation, because their time spent with children in the household makes them less trained and less senior in the labor market compared to the husband, and wives are more emotionally attached to the children.

In a fault regime, both parties have to consent to dissolution, which equalizes their bargaining power.

And, according to my forgotten source, data support the prediction: when a non-fault regime is imposed women receive worse divorce settlements.

And, if I remember correctly, the source shows that women started to delay marriage and invest more in college tightly in response to the advent of no-fault divorce regimes (measurable because no-fault started in different states in different years).

If I have it wrong, correct me kindly.

As if we needed further evidence that many Hollywood films are created by mentally ill moral degenerates.

Tolerance is one thing; celebration of sickness is quite another.

Of course some of the latest buzz about American youth suggests that males are afraid of females and females are claiming to be “bisexual” in record numbers.

I suspect that beneath all of the media hype things are not much different than before.

“Fear of sex” due to AIDS and mentally ill females can certainly cool the male ardor. As for women, the mad feminist “rage” doesn’t just happen once a month. It now becomes a political stance by hating on Jews who for some reason don’t like their misogynist, anti gay patriarchal terrorist loving neighbors. But if you have common sense and ignore Woke media, you will be okay.

Meanwhile rape loving migrants flood into Dem big city strongholds in Europe and the US/Canada.

What is a boy/girl going to do?

Many are moving back into mama and daddy’s homestead to play video games and stream inane Coen brothers dreck about lesbians.

I think things are better in Kansas, Dorothy…

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/14/us/fertility-fraud-accidental-incest-invs/index.html

‘I slept with my half-sibling’: Woman’s horror story reflects loosely regulated nature of US fertility industry

Not just the girls. I have in my career come across several instances where men had two complete families in different cities. They (especially family #1 – the wife to which he is legally married, sometimes the other one knows) only found out about each other only after the man dies. This leads to lawsuits quite often. I am talking about successful white men, not ghetto baby daddies. Lindbergh being a famous example.

Like H.L. Hunt and his three families.

Christianity is unusual for requiring monogamy. This was not true of Judaism or of Islam or many Eastern religions. It appears that they inherited this from the Romans. Christianity was a Middle Eastern religion that was taken up by Greeks and Romans and so it has aspects of both cultures. For example they also followed the food customs of the Romans and not the Jews. It may be that certain aspects of culture are deeper than any new religion so that the new religion yields to the deeper practice.

See:

The Germanization of Early Medieval Christianity: A Sociohistorical Approach to Religious Transformation

–James C. Russell

Polyamory invariably is going to be a Muslim disaster of a family gaming the system for benefits and contributing nothing while barely raising their kids. Or ugly urban weirdos in cities. Nobody thinks some aging Jewish Park Slope whore pretending to be cutting edge is a trend to follow spare a few moron overeducated Times readers. She’s a whore. It will not be Bill Paxton owning a string of hardware stores raising his prosperous productive family with multiple hot wives. It’s bad public policy. Arab countries have been a mess forever in part because excess unmarried young men.

They thought trans was gonna fly. Alas now Bud Light has Kid Rock, the UFC and Dana White to make amends. Nobody wants to lose money. Well except Hollywood, apparently. Every movie must now feature black girl magic, or Jeffrey Wright or Mashereyechart Ali (nee Hershal Gilmore, quite boring and ordinary and or likely to attract much notice of casting directors, but black AND Muslim, hot damn! ) overacting and saying how evil those white devils are to be considered Oscar-worthy.

Has this Estonian babe politician ever hoisted a rifle?

Talked to anyone with actual combat experience?

Tallied the number of heroic female Ukrainian combat soldiers facing death?

(That tally is probably in the low double digits).

Like war loving neocons everywhere, bleating for “victory” is best done in warm safe surroundings secure in the knowledge that you and yours are not going to be at risk.

Ukraine is a crazy event. In 30 years everyone will wonder why this happened. Like the 1850s Crimean War.

No one will wonder, the background is not only straightforward but partially repeated, but it is a shocking tragedy that it was allowed to happen, that, after the other debacles the neocons foisted upon us, we did not cut them up and scatter them to the winds.

Some followup on your last sentence. It is interesting to see the time progression.

1992 the original controversy.
https://www.deseret.com/1992/9/14/19004537/bergen-was-amused-then-offended-by-quayle/

But note her first sentence here.

Bergen says a lot of thought went into the decision to have Murphy become a single mother. “I myself, as a parent, believe the ideal is you have a two-parent family. I’m the last person to think fathers are obsolete,” she said. But, “I think it was absolutely the right decision to have the baby. Absolutely. For Murphy and the show.”

6/23/1998 CB doubles down.
https://www.nytimes.com/1998/06/23/opinion/l-murphy-brown-s-values-543110.html

Though a bit hard to reconcile that with this from 7/27/98.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/magazine/1727756/murphy-brown-redux/

2002 CB more conciliatory.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2002/07/12/quayles-ok-bergen-admits/

5/25/2012 The WaPo (of all places) says Quayle was right.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/20-years-later-it-turns-out-dan-quayle-was-right-about-murphy-brown-and-unmarried-moms/2012/05/25/gJQAsNCJqU_story.html

This 2018 article recaptures the history including a 2012 quote from CB.
https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/uh-oh-immigration-hawks-are-underwhelmed-white-houses-proposal/

By 2012, Bergen declared, “I never have really said much about the whole episode, which was endless. But his speech was a perfectly intelligent speech about fathers not being dispensable and nobody agreed with that more than I did.”

Heinlein proposed a system of polyamory which would exploit specialization: one person’s great with kids, one person’s a great cook, one person ensures that the can opener doesn’t go walkies, one person’s good with money and does everyone’s taxes.

“Ukraine is a crazy event. In 30 years everyone will wonder why this happened. “

Not in the Chinese history books. It’ll be held up as an example of imperial overstretch, maybe the one that did most damage (though perhaps not, “a deal of ruin in a nation” and all that.

“And that, children, is why today China dominates the globe!”

(in the North Korean age/sex profile you can see the damage of the Korean War, just as WW1 left a huge sex gap in the UK and WW2 did in Russia. Ukraine is busy creating its very own right now.)

You seem to assume that polyamory will involve at least some degree of hetero/bisexuality, but I assume that only the face of polyamory will involve both sexes, while the majority of any benefits of recognition will go to gay sex clubs.

Furthermore polyamory and the pedophile push are by no means mutually exclusive. Pedos need access to kids. Loose intimate relationships can create access.

If the “polyamorous” are a protected class, that means another parent or the state will have trouble getting kids away from monsters like these:

https://www.wcvb.com/article/police-dispute-reports-kids-drugs-sex-toys/44319427

BOSTON —
Boston police are trying to set the record straight about some of the sordid details of an investigation in a South Boston apartment that involved one death and resulted in four children being referred to the Department of Children and Families.

The incident in question occurred inside a unit at the Mary Ellen McCormack complex Saturday night. Original reports indicated the children — all under the age of 10 — were found in an apartment with sex toys, drugs, alcohol and six cross-dressing men. (Watch WCVB’s original report

An incident report filed through the Boston Fire Department states the kids were discovered by first responders after one of the adults in the apartment was found dead. Several adults in that apartment were also accused of hiding those children in a back room.

According to the Fire Department’s incident report, the apartment was in “extreme unsanitary conditions,” and all adults in the unit were being uncooperative and denied having children inside.

Boston police, however, described the adults as “fully cooperative.”

“There were four children on site who all had a parent present in the residence,” police said. “The parents and the officers who responded felt it was best for the children to stay in another room with one of the parents and took steps to avoid having the children see the deceased.”

Police also disputed the description of the conditions in the apartment.

May 2012 was the month that Obama reversed his public stance on gay marriage and came out in favor of LOVE!(TM).

At the time some alleged conservatives were arguing that marriage would “civilize” gays. The idea was that if John Q. Homo and Jack D. Queer were allowed to put a ring on it, buy a house with a white picket fence, and hire a surrogate to produce a couple of designer kids – one with John’s sperm and one with Jack’s sperm – they’d be too busy changing diapers and planning fabulous vacations to Disney World to go carousing at the local bathhouse.

I would imagine that the Washington Post ran a number of pro-marriage op-eds around this time – “Marriage is wonderful, so let’s make it available to everyone!”

Fast-forward ten years or so and it turns out that Disney World *is* the local bathhouse.

Thank you!………..by the way, that’s the “talented tenth” being represented there…….being ruled by these monsters will be hell on earth.

Well, I’d rather marry a straight Mexican or Asian woman than an ugly white lesbian. Maybe Cohen thought marrying any shiksa, even a lesbian one, was better than celibacy or marrying a Jewish woman.

Correction. 800M.

“Right now there is a case involving Don Henley of the Eagles and (in order to discredit his character – I really don’t understand why the judge allowed this because it is so irrelevant to the case at hand) he is being cross examined about a 16-year-old prostitute who overdosed at his home in 1980 (at the time he was given probation and a $2,500 fine).”

I think the trend has been to relax Rule 404(b) in rape/sexual assault cases. In Maryland, for instance, a statute was enacted doing exactly that because the General Assembly was unhappy with a Court of Appeals decision reversing a rapist’s conviction for that reason.

(For the non-lawyers, Rule 404(b) is the evidentiary rule restricting the admissibility of propensity evidence. In a criminal trial, the defendant’s guilt of prior or non-charged conduct is presumptively out of bounds except for supposedly narrow exceptions, turning on things like motive, opportunity, intent, preparation, plan, knowledge, identity, absence of mistake, or lack of accident. MIMIC Rule)

Macron openly fantasizes about using NATO troops in Ukraine

Right, FAFO, of course one has to wonder who is operating the patriot missiles and HMARS right now.

That was a (ripped from the headlines) Law & Order episode back in the 90s.

More food and sexual neuroticism, less humanity.

The same individual geese on which we conducted these experiments, first aroused my interest in the process of domestication. They were F1 hybrids of wild Greylags and domestic geese and they showed surprising deviations from the normal social and sexual behaviour of the wild birds. I realised that an overpowering increase in the drives of feeding as well as of copulation and a waning of more differentiated social instincts is characteristic of very many domestic animals. I was frightened – as I still am – by the thought that analogous genetical processes of deterioration may be at work with civilized humanity.

Konrad Lorenz

I don’t pity him at all, this is an intentional choice. I do have to wonder who is supposed to be the audience for a movie like this. Is a movie like this made with the understanding that it is just the cost of showing you support the regime? There is no way it could ever make money.

“What’s next? Many on the right argued that it had to be pedophilia”

there’s a lot more movement in this direction from leftists than for polygamy. so yeah, i’d say that’s one of their priorities.

for now i’m not gonna rehash the deep dive math argument i’ve posted several times for why leftist thought leaders have considered, but nixed, a push for polygamy. the calculus has changed though with an open border.

with a (mostly) closed border, polygamy math says that it helps Republicans more. so they didn’t go for it. with an open border, and likely a permanently open border, polygamy math might make sense for Democrat politics. they can bring in a few million Democrat voting third world polygamists who will cancel out, then overwhelm, Republican voting American polygamists.

You end up with all sorts of weird hybrids. If I say that today is Wednesday ([W]Odin’s day), February 28, 2024 then the day of the week is Norse (Germanic) , the month is Roman and the year is referenced to Christianity but is written in Arabic numbers.

Odin stands in for Mercury (or vice versa) just as the Virgin Mary stand in for the Corn Maiden in the US SW and San Lázaro stands in for Babalú Ayé in Santeria. This way when the invaders show up you can keep worshipping your old gods, you just call them by new names.

As for German influence, of course the entire Protestant movement can be seen a result of the uneasy fit between Catholic (Greco-Roman) and Germanic thinking and character.

Not three men:

Not a picture from when Caster Semenya won gold at the World Championships.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_World_Championships_in_Athletics_%E2%80%93_Women%27s_800_metres

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caster_Semenya

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janeth_Jepkosgei

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_Meadows

I might have the wrong race bud I could not find another world championship for Semenya.

Come to think of it, I think it most plausible that the next current thing will be socially and legally enforced veganism. Trendiness, social pressure, city bans, state initiative petitions. Easier to cut off supply than punish demand. Brought to us by pretty much the same people who have imposed the recent Things.

Fun facts: sea sponges, dust mites, and protozoa are animals. Some personal hygiene measures would need to be outlawed too.

125 comments and nobody’s mentioned abortion. That’s a far bigger deal than polyamory right now.

Of course most people don’t know the Crimean War from a hole in the ground and probably 30 years from now the same will be true of Ukraine, but for those who do know, there are a lot of parallels.

You have an aggressive expansionist Russia opportunistically trying to take advantage of what it perceives as a weaker neighbor (the Ottoman Empire) under trumped up (similar) grounds – allegedly the protection of Orthodox Christians living in the neighbor’s country. Fearing the growth of influence of the Russian Empire, the British and French (and later the Italians) intervene on the side of the weaker neighbor.

Let’s hope that the aftermath follows similar lines as well (from the Wiki):

The Crimean War marked a turning point for the Russian Empire. The war weakened the Imperial Russian Army, drained the treasury and undermined Russia’s influence in Europe. The empire would take decades to recover. Russia’s humiliation forced its educated elites to identify its problems and recognise the need for fundamental reforms. They saw rapid modernisation as the sole way to recover the empire’s status as a European power. The war thus became a catalyst for reforms of Russia’s social institutions, including the abolition of serfdom and overhauls in the justice system, local self-government, education and military service.

I have no specific Next Thing predictions, only a screening criteria you might consider: Will it work as a “very special” made-for-TV movie, and then as a popular sitcom?

Hi, I’m a Leftist. I like living in a house, and I like bricks, but I don’t like mortar or cement.

So my choices are: live in a big loose pile of bricks, or go and squat in somebody else’s house.

Either one is fine, so long as it makes white people miserable

…because social workers, lawyers, and mental health types have been demonstrably willing to strip parents of their authority over their children to advance the interests of deviants.

And themselves.

“The one great principle of the English law is to make business for itself. There is no other principle distinctly, certainly, and consistently maintained through all its narrow turnings. Viewed by this light it becomes a coherent scheme and not the monstrous maze the laity are apt to think it. Let them but once clearly perceive that its grand principle is to make business for itself at their expense and surely they will cease to grumble.”

–Dickens, Bleak House

Like, sure he’s got more money but can he even get it up anymore?

At 40?

Polyamory: 2025
Pederasty: 2027
Bestiality: 2029

There, I’ve laid out the rest of your Next Big Thing decade for you.

Veganism would go well with the current “animals burp methane and their effluent pollutes waterways” stuff, which is presumably aimed at putting the peasants back in their rightful place.

So that’s a pretty neat prediction.

Maybe our one or two grandchildren (if we’re lucky) will listen to our tales of eating meat every day the way our children listen to tales of buying our houses aged 24.

Agree, that is now being pushed by Those Who Know More About Your Health Than You Do.

Not sure if there is some published schedule for these Mantras From On High or not, or we just see or read them as they roll them out.

In this case, as sometimes is the case, there is merit to the idea, though as usual, very vague as to details.

What is “Ultra Processed” as opposed to just processed for shelf life or taste?

Now some of that is just junk food with a lot of added sugar (carbs) or fats. Also easy to prepare and store for long periods. Or added salt and flavors. Because humans like that.

Like most of these food fads, promoted by health Nazis (who push things you don’t like or won’t eat) there is some merit and a lot of generalities. “Pure food” is often superior but with long supply chains, not practical or cheap enough for most people to afford. Raw foods are slow to cook and often hard to prepare. Turnips anyone?

I’m sure that the upcoming Soros-Gates Insect Paste will qualify, once it is demanded by the Save the Planet Crowd for our own good. That will require some “ultra processing” but by then, that fad will be old hat.

Of course killing natural insects to eat will engender “danger! danger!” cries as they often pollinate plants and aerate the soil, and provide food for other animals. So the Soros-Gates V. 2.0 Paste will be made from DNA modified lab grown insects, not real ones.

And Soylent Green will be eco friendly too. A Wuhan-Fauci Product! You Can Recycle YOU!

“Made Of, By and For People Just Like You!”

Have the Coen brothers split-up professionally ?

An extreme version of “animal rights”-and non-judgmentalism or even celebration regarding bestiality- seems likely.

Regarding bestiality and polygamy in the broader setting of the politics of tolerance and bigotry, see PTT:

One moves swiftly and imperceptibly from a world in which you’re a bigot if you compare gay marriage to something as unsavory as polygamy to a world in which you’re a bigot for suggesting that there is something wrong with polygamy.

The following conversation actually took place. I’m going to capriciously refer to the interlocutor as Kai, no relation.

Me: If you accept a marriage between two men, you must also accept a marriage between a man and —
Kai, interrupting: A goat!
Me: I was actually going to say “multiple women”. But since you bring it up, what are your arguments against a man marrying a goat?
Kai, taken aback but only very slightly: Hmm, it’s just not a very common issue right now. If and when it becomes relevant we can discuss it. In principle, ruling out animal cruelty, I have no objection.

Actually, Kai’s jiu-jitsu is several levels above a plain vanilla Caldwellian pivot. In the course of a single conversation, I managed to become a bigot twice: first, for having the offensive gay-marriage/bestiality suggestion forcibly imposed on me, and second for suggesting that there is anything wrong with the latter!

An unrepentant materialist atheist

Atheism is just the correct intellectual position. People don’t rise from the dead.

Just recently he gave out one of his grants worth tens of thousands of dollars to a trans person arguing for giving children more rights so that they can pursue underage transitioning regardless of the parents wishes.

I wish he didn’t do that. The fact that you know about it shows you read him or at least keep track of news in the community, so you must find *something* interesting in him/them. The fundamental fact is that people like him run the country, not clowns like Majorie Taylor Greene. He suffered a lot of social and professional sanction for condemning feminism, calling him names because he won’t go full skinhead is unwise. Even Nick Fuentes gets it now:

Nick talking about Richard Spencer being misinterpreted for moving Left. https://t.co/5I8G45GQb2 pic.twitter.com/hMbipjTYo4

— May ✨ (@ReactiveMay) February 24, 2024

An interesting speculation (and one that for once does not center around sexual perversion) but one that I think is not going to happen for a number of economic and technological reasons (as well as many people’s unwillingness to fundamentally change their diet – you could get HALF the population to go along with this and the other half are going to say NFW, along the predictable red/blue lines).

A year or two ago it looked like things were headed in this direction but the bubble has largely collapsed (a similar bubble collapse is happening with self driving cars and with electric cars). You can get out ahead of consumer sentiment (and technology) a little bit but not a lot. If you get too far ahead of the gang, when you look over your shoulder you will realize that you are out there all by yourself and you have left the crowd behind.

An unrepentant materialist atheist

Atheism is just the correct intellectual position. People don’t rise from the dead.

Just recently he gave out one of his grants worth tens of thousands of dollars to a trans person arguing for giving children more rights so that they can pursue underage transitioning regardless of the parents wishes.

I wish he didn’t do that. The fact that you know about it shows you read him or at least keep track of news in the community, so you must find *something* interesting there. The fundamental fact is that people like him run the country, not clowns like Majorie Taylor Greene. He suffered a lot of social and professional sanction for condemning feminism, calling him names because he won’t go full skinhead is unwise. Even Nick Fuentes gets it now:

Nick talking about Richard Spencer being misinterpreted for moving Left. https://t.co/5I8G45GQb2 pic.twitter.com/hMbipjTYo4

— May ✨ (@ReactiveMay) February 24, 2024

Prior to effective modern birth control (circa 1960) there were a lot of “underage” girls who became pregnant, usually by older males.

Still common in Third World places and in poorer, mainly non White communities elsewhere.

Prior to birth control, most of these births were farmed out to orphanages or adopted by relatives. Or the young couple got married, whatever the local custom allowed.

One suspects that in Paleo and ancient times, most of our ancestors were born “under age of consent” since biology and sex drives start pretty early. One reason why “the patriarchy” was the predominant form of family organization.

Young females were locked up by family members and older females in clan arrangements to keep from being impregnated. Also, as a consequence, could be bartered as “brides” to outsiders for goods, livestock, cash or clan affiliate benefits. Still a common practice in places like Muslim or African, Indian societies.

Of course when average lifespans were under 40, this was not only common but probably necessary.

Those fairy tale “princess brides” and literary ones like Juliet were often “under age” by modern standards. Mortality by childbirth also very high. A different world.

All that would be exponentially worse in a polyamorous household.

And there is the well known fact that women all get along very well when living together in close quarters.

Daughters love moms, sisters love sisters. grandma loves all her girls, and those sharing the same guys enjoy the sweet benefits of female solidarity.

What can go wrong?

The “natural foods/anti-Ultra processed” gang and the “vegan” gang are not the same gang. Vegans are most concerned with animal cruelty. The meat substitutes such as Impossible Burger are HIGHLY ultra-processed. They sound like something from a chemistry lab:

Plant Protein (21%) (Soy), Coconut Oil, Thickener (INS 461), Glutamic Acid, Cultured Dextrose, Modified Starch, Yeast Extract, Soy Leghemoglobin (genetically modified), Antioxidant (INS 307b), Vitamins and Minerals (Zinc Gluconate, Niacin (Vitamin B3), Thiamine …

Real meat OTOH is the polar opposite. The only ingredient in a package of hamburger is meat. One ingredient – ground up cow.

No one has been able to perfect it and produce it at a reasonable cost, but lab grown meat really seemed to offer the perfect alternative. If you are going to culture cells in a lab, there’s no need to culture DNA modified insect cells. You can culture the cells of a plain old genetically unmodified cow. Take one little biopsy of Bessie in the field and reproduce it a billion times. This had the potential to unite the vegan crowd (no need to kill animals) and the all natural crowd (one ingredient – meat) and the I want my meat crowd (it’s just cow meat grown in a new way). But no one has been able to economically scale this up to a mass production level.

The new current thing is whatever Jews want.

But… afaik (certainly in the UK) no fault divorce where wife gets the kids (nearly all cases) means

a) wife keeps the house (even if she needs to up the mortgage)
b) she gets cash support from hubby “because of the kids”.

Hubby ends up in a bedsit and sees the kids on weekends.

And yet and yet … of our little group of young middle class parents, the men whose wives binned them out are all partnered again, some with children by Wife #2. All the women who did the binning are single.

In premodern times it was not uncommon for a child to find out later in life that their “mother” was really their grandmother and their “sister” or their “aunt” was actually their mother. Aside from adoption, this was one way of dealing with teen pregnancies.

The combination ploy was Loretta Young who became pregnant by Clark Gable. She then disappeared for a few months during her pregnancy and when she reemerged it was announced that she had “adopted” a baby (she adopted her own baby). Apparently the child bore a striking resemblance to her father (without the mustache) and everyone in Hollywood knew what was up, except for the poor child herself who did not find out until she was a newlywed and her husband explained to her why she was the spitting image of Clark Gable in a dress.

He was an old Etonian born at the height of Edwardian pomp.

Yep, and they will incentivize this policy by encouraging the ‘migrants’ to work as domestic servants in lieu of paying rent, and what do you know, big fat dumb stupid whitey is cast way back in the 18th century when he was the big fat evil oppressor of people of color, importing them and forcing them to do his shit work for no pay.

Let’s hope that the aftermath follows similar lines as well (from the Wiki)

The West spent a lot of blood and treasure to help prop up the Ottoman Empire. Yeah, that sounds like another winner for Democracy and Western values. But at least they got to “harm” Russia, by making them spend blood and treasure, also. I guess I can see the parallels now that you mention it.

Irrational and emotional hatred of any country or people is not a sound basis for foreign policy. But the morons that run our foreign policy are motivated by irrational hatred of Russia and irrational love of Israel. It’s pathetic.

“with catastrophic consequences for impressionable and moody young girls.”

Males are 2-4 times more likely to “transition” than females.

It does seem that among adults, M > F is the most popular.

But there’s a fad going around young teen girls about being trans.

Of course when average lifespans were under 40, this was not only common but probably necessary.

Yes, epidemics would take out people of parenting age, but most of the average-lifespan difference between then and now is a result of conditions in infancy and early childhood. A least since the onset of civilization. Results may vary for nomadic and hunter-gatherer societies.

There were plenty of grandparents around.

OT:

US Senate Republican leader says he will retire
Mitch McConnell of Kentucky intends to remain in his seat through 2027, however
[…]
“One of life’s most underappreciated talents is to know when it’s time to move on to life’s next chapter,” the 82-year-old said in a speech on the Senate floor. “So I stand before you today … to say that this will be my last term as Republican leader of the Senate.”
[….]
“That said, I believe more strongly than ever that America’s global leadership is essential to preserving the shining city on a hill that Ronald Reagan discussed. For as long as I am drawing breath on this earth I will defend American exceptionalism.”

https://www.rt.com/news/593337-us-senate-republican-leader-retires/

Good old American exceptionalism.

Level of aggression?

I’m with Selective Service and Dr David Reuben on this one: there is no such thing as a “sex change”. Ever. Stuck in the Seventies!

Steve has focused on this. In a nutshell, becoming a woman really, really sucks in many ways, to include simple unexplained body pain, but also learning about your own relative vulnerabity, and the tranny thing offers girls an escape from unpleasantness.

https://ifunny.co/picture/vegans-combining-5-carcinogens-and-10-industrial-chemicals-to-make-MijbgyfpA

In the Middle Ages, in Europe, even princesses would marry between the ages of 11-16, to much older men.

Especially princesses. Marriages were arranged for political purposes.

The next big thing is taking away parents’ rights. Children will belong to the State. That way everyone is happy: the gay pedophiles, the childfree harpies, the slave masters, the progressive educators, the organ traffickers and those simply envious of “a man, a woman, their children”.

I believe this kid’s name is X Æ A-12 Musk.

I’m a Musk fan but I think his taste in names (for kids and companies) leaves something to be desired.

a poly group that appears to include three girls and two boys moved in near me a couple years ago. it is now by far the worst kept house on the block. all their vehicles are barely-functioning and replete with dents and scratches.

Will Britain’s Conservative Party live long enough to have the first openly polyamorous Prime Minister? Fingers crossed!!

The first Jewish Prime Minister.

The first female Prime Minister.

The first black Chancellor.

The first Muslim Home Secretary.

The first British Asian Prime Minister.

It is the Conservatives that represent modern Britain. pic.twitter.com/hWR0wOvCFY

— Conservatives (@Conservatives) February 28, 2024

Polyamory as a thing has always existed and making it a status with a name won’t change anything. What difference has gay marriage made? “Minor celeb Mike Smith and his husband…”, that’s what. At most the normalisation of something that is far from new.

Something I have noticed recently, in connection with Covid vaccination and transitioning, is the principle that the interests of the child are paramount. The vaccines were administered in schools with a great deal of encouragement to take them, and there have been many cases of school policies on pronouns and transitioning overriding parental wishes. In other words, the interests of the school (and for school, read state) are paramount. There is huge potential here. For starters, how about schools with targets for carbon-neutral students and powers to enforce them in the home? Indirectly of course. “The city council has determined that you are an educationally carbon-neutral household…”

They thought trans was gonna fly. Alas now Bud Light has Kid Rock, the UFC and Dana White to make amends. Nobody wants to lose money.

It’s not about money when your owners PRINT the money.

That sounds about right.

“Miscegenation for Whites. Not new but always a constant massive push by the hostile ruling ‘elite’. ”

More like a personal decision by normal people. Well within their liberty. Just ask John Derbyshire.

… the woke are increasingly disgusted by the thought of a 35-year-old man marrying a 25-year-old woman …

Oh, come on! Is this serious?

I was a 41-year-old man who married a 31-year-old woman, in the year 2001.

She likes to tell me that when I am 100 and she is only 90 she will drive me around in the Mercedes-Benz convertible I bought for her.

Ohh! I married a younger chick!

Okay, having previously dated younger women, I note certain things. The funniest one is that she, like every other younger woman I dated, likes Guns N’ Roses. They all do, ten years younger than me. I’ll take that.

Men, take it from me: Marry a girl ten years younger. That is the ideal number!

Now, this comment might take some time before y’all get to read it.

Yeah, you’re probably right that it won’t follow similar lines. Russia is a hopeless case now. A revolution, two world wars, 70 years of Communism and 20 years of dictatorship destroyed their human capital. Anyone with brains has either left or is dead.

Russia’s humiliation forced its educated elites to identify its problems and recognise the need for fundamental reforms.

NOPE, won’t happen again.

They saw rapid modernisation as the sole way to recover the empire’s status as a European power.

NOPE, won’t happen again.

The war thus became a catalyst for reforms of Russia’s social institutions, including the abolition of serfdom and overhauls in the justice system, local self-government, education and military service.

NOPE, won’t happen again, either. It will just be Putin and his buddies robbing the Russian people blind for the foreseeable future. I don’t see a way out of this, sadly. It’s difficult for the tree of democracy to grow in a place where the soil has been so deeply soaked in blood. The Russian people are given crumbs by their masters and they are grateful that it’s not a bullet to the head like before.

Yes. Louis Kahn had three such families IIRC. I’m not sure it’s so unheard of.

https://www.fangoria.com/original/the-coen-brothers-reportedly-making-a-very-bloody-horror-movie/

The Coen Brothers Reportedly Making A Very Bloody Horror Movie
Joel and Ethan Coen have been working separately for several years but horror is bringing them back together.
BY RYAN SCOTT · JANUARY 29, 2024

You really are tripping over mouse poop.

The poly phenomenon will grow but I doubt it will get out of control like the trans issue.

There do not seem to be many long-term poly ‘families’, let alone some sort of push to sanction them getting married as 3 or more. Figuring out how to split assets in divorces would get even crazier.

Much of the phenomenon is driven by behavioral economics. With the cost of divorce high, men are slower to commit to a woman who earns much less. But they still like them if the look nice.

The internet and dating sites lead both genders, but especially women, to want to hold out for the best possible partner. Some of the ‘polys’ are stuck waiting to be the last one standing, or frittering away time instead of looking for a stable partnership.

Men still have a higher sex drive than women, so an older man with younger woman evens that out some. I suspect poly triads can support similar age partners with differing sex drives due to the surplus. It funny that whenever a TV show or movie brings up sex drive, they always show the male as the one not wanting it. It’s the equivalent of always making the white guy the baddie despite the stats.

with computer nerds who lack the gene for sexual jealousy demanding “polyamory”

There is not a gene for sexual jealousy. That is a very simplistic and erroneous conception of what genetics is about, even by modern biology’s own lights. I expect as much from HBDers, but this is truly “Lance Welton” levels of scientific illiteracy. I will be very telling of the characters of the others on this board if nobody else objects to this, so let’s wait and see what happens.

The case at hand is a state criminal prosecution of 3rd parties who (allegedly) stole and sold song manuscripts belonging to Henley. Henley’s propensity to have sex with underage whores (she LOOKED like she was over 18!) has zippo to do with the case at hand. Completely irrelevant. The defense counsel just wants to make Henley unsympathetic to the jury. I really don’t know why the judge allowed it. There are some really crap judges out there. As our society has declined so too has the quality of some judges.

I would recommend to all non-idiots to read columns & watch Dan Schueftan videos:

https://www.israelhayom.com/writer/dan-schueftan/page/2/

For instance: https://www.israelhayom.com/opinions/ukraine-invasion-is-putins-gift-to-the-western-world/

https://www.israelhayom.com/opinions/is-ukraine-headed-for-a-rude-awakening/

https://www.israelhayom.com/opinions/crying-racism-while-denying-reality/

To sum it:

* Americans are force for the good, but they are frequently disastrous in their parochialism & “operational mind”. Strategic mind is dealing with situations where there are no solutions. See under Eisenhower 1956 & Nasser, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan,..

* Israel is the only developed country where non-zombified secular women want children

* gifted peoples ruled by barbarians are the real danger (Germany, now Iran)

* the only Middle Eastern gifted peoples are Israelis and Iranians

* nationalism is good & the bad thing is extreme nationalism, so post-1945 fight against nationalism in the Western world was a grave mistake

* the Western world is the pinnacle of everything, but you cannot force its values on the rest

* with Arabs- better enlightened absolutism than democracy leading to Islamism

* anti-waxxers should be isolated from the normal world

* Harvard professors live in la-la-land, similar to most American foreign policy makers

* Obama and Carter were suckers & Nixon was the man

* Palestinians are incurable

* Israelis tend to fall asleep politically every 10 or 20 years

* Putin already lost the war

Also, two videos from 1 year & 2 months ago (hosts are annoying with their interruptions)

Ethan Coen’s New Movie Has Disastrous Box Office Opening, Misses Top 5 In First Weekend
The new Ethan Coen movie Drive-Away Dolls barely makes it into the Top 10 in its domestic opening weekend, landing at No. 8 with a paltry debut.

LOL.

Amazing these people can not figure out the obvious. Queers–I mean male queers, the word apparently has been repurposed to something or another–are viscerally disgusting, but lesbians are just boring.

Women and their stories are interesting because of sex–their capability to make babies with a man. Therefore man-woman coupling, “who will match with and make babies with whom?”–which speaks to lineage and the future–is of some dramatic interest.

Men can be of interest beyond that. Men make war and ergo decide the fate of nations and empires. Men break the law and other men hunt down and suppress the lawbreakers. Men sail around the world and discover new lands. Men come up with new ideas and inventions and make things that fly and go boom. Some drama.

Women, strip away sex–the “who will she make babies with”–are rather boring. They … talk.

ALL OF MY “AGREE.”
Are you following the trials of Fanny?
I think the Trump lawfare is desperate performative BS whoch will all be thrown out later on appeal, they just need to “do sonething” like Michael Obama once demanded. SCOTUS has given cert to Trump’s immunity claim and the only one going forward is the least politically damaging one.

In today’s world, homosexuals and transgenders are more “normal” than 35 year-old guys who want a wife in her 20s.

Protip: They’re not.

I had advised tbe Coens to make CAS’s The Door To Saturn and here we are. This premise doesn’t seem useless, though; had this movie been made in the late 70s it would probably rock.

Related to the hollywood gay craze:

No Netflix, Alexander the Great was NOT GAY

I think somebody said here there was sort of a hierarchy with white guys marrying ethnic women, the rich and UMC guys married Asians, the middle class married Hispanics, the lower class married blacks.