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Hungary’s Viktor Orbán is both the smartest politician in Europe and, from my point of view, the most ideologically sound. Thus it came as a big surprise that he was soundly trounced in last Sunday’s elections. Why did this happen, and what does it bode for Hungary and for the nationalist-populist Right more broadly?

Orbán lost because of bad luck, which he could not control, and bad decisions, which he could control.

Orbán’s bad luck was simply that Hungary is a small, land-locked country. Hungary was devastated by the Second World War, followed by more than 40 years of Communism. After Communism, Hungary saw many of its most educated people go abroad for higher wages. It quickly became economically dependent on Western Europe, especially Germany, which is hell-bent on self-destruction: liberalism, multiculturalism, political correctness, Green energy, migration, de-industrialization, Covid hysteria, etc.

Orbán actually managed to benefit from some elements of Western decline. But Covid was an inflection point. Western Covid policies were luxury beliefs that Hungary could ill-afford. Hungary has suffered from high inflation and economic stagnation, largely due to Covid, exacerbated by the fact that the European Union withheld billions in Covid relief subsidies because they didn’t like Orbán’s sensible social conservatism and sound policies on sovereignty, migration, and identity. Even if Orbán did everything else right, he might have lost because of this.

So what did Orbán do wrong?

First of all, it is never good for a nationalist to identify too closely with the nationalisms — and national interests — of other nations. Yet Orbán was seen as sycophantic to Trump, Netanyahu, and above all Putin, to the point of compromising Hungarian national interests. Of course, a good statesman seeks good relations with other countries, but there is a clear, bright line between diplomacy and treason: namely, the interests of one’s own people.

All of Hungary’s Right-wing populists share a very unpopular idea. They are pro-Russian in a nation that widely despises Russians, not just for 1956 or 1944–45, but for 1849. Hungarians have long historical memories. It would be easy to dismiss such attitudes as mere “historical grievances,” but “the past is prologue,” and Russian imperialism is obviously not dead.

Whether they are right or wrong, Hungarian pro-Putin populists are taking an unpopulist stance. But maybe they have good reasons. The best reason is that it is important to be friendly with Russia as a geopolitical counterweight to America and the EU. But, again, the operative criterion should be Hungary’s national interests.

Beyond that, pro-Russian attitudes in Hungary are largely rooted in the same witless “Russia stronk” memes and delusions about Russia being a stronghold of white, conservative values so common in the Western far-Right. And wherever these memes appear, Russian financial corruption is never far away.

It was easy for Hungarians to overlook this as a minor eccentricity until the Ukraine War. Most Hungarians don’t particularly care for Ukraine, largely because they fret for a tiny Hungarian minority in Ukraine trapped behind borders drawn by Stalin. But the vast majority of Hungarians are pleased that Russia is far away from their borders, and Ukraine just happens to be the country that is keeping them away.

Thus, to “normie” Hungarians, it seems the height of perversity for Hungarian nationalists to parrot all the pro-Russian propaganda tropes on the Ukraine War: NATO encroachment, “poke the bear,” the “Maidan coup,” etc. It is easy to understand why people far from Russia repeat these memes. But in Hungary or Poland, they seem so perverse, eccentric, and detached from reality that the mind is naturally drawn to explanations like bribery and treason. This is why, when Orbán’s opponent, Péter Magyar, celebrated his victory last Sunday, the crowd was chanting “Ruszkik Haza!” “Russians go home!”

Orbán’s recent reelection campaign struck me as perverse. For a long time, Orbán’s face was nowhere to be seen. Instead, most Fidesz posters featured Zelensky, Ursula von der Leyden, and Péter Magyar.

To make matters worse, the Fidesz election slogan, “A biztos választás,” simply means “The Safe Choice.” Not the ideal choice, not the best choice. It hardly conveyed self-confidence.

Late in the campaign, Orbán’s face finally appeared along with the Hungarian national colors. He’s gotten rather fat, but they managed to find a flattering, statesmanlike semi-profile. His new slogan, “Fogjunk össze a háború ellen” means “Let’s unite against the war,” meaning the Ukraine War, meaning unite against helping Ukraine, which basically means: let’s reward Russian aggression. What do conservatives say happens when you reward a behavior? You get more of it. Was this really the best he could come up with? Why finish a campaign by doubling down on an unpopular issue that should have been concealed like an idiot child? It really does smack of putting Russia’s interests not just ahead of Hungary’s but even ahead of Orbán’s own interests.

The populists who are freaking out about Orbán’s defeat need to take a long, hard look in the mirror and ask themselves whether they are setting themselves up for the same failure. The Western populist Right has been deeply corrupted by Russian propaganda and outright bribery. Once more, there is nothing wrong with wanting to have good relations with Russia. But that’s because it is in one’s own national interest. Any hint of promoting Russian interests ahead of one’s own homeland is treason and should be political suicide. That’s a high price to pay for sniggering over stupid memes. The whole populist Right needs a “Russians go home!” policy.

Orbán also had the bad luck to roll out this slogan after America and Israel started the Iran War. Orbán opposed this war too, in a sensible and diplomatic way. But this was undermined when J. D. Vance showed up in Budapest to campaign for Orbán while Trump was melting down on social media.

Hungarians regard Jews, even Jewish Hungarians, as a distinct ethnic group with distinct interests. This attitude is completely independent of whether they like or dislike Jews. But even Hungarians who aren’t particularly fond of Jews are generally polite and cordial to their Jewish neighbors. Orbán, however, goes far beyond that.

Like Trump, Orbán is particularly cozy with Netanyahu, even after his utterly barbaric treatment of Gaza. In fact, when the International Criminal Court indicted Netanyahu for war crimes in 2024, Orbán withdrew Hungary from the court and rolled out the red carpet for Netanyahu to visit Hungary in 2025.

Recently, Orbán boasted that Hungary will have the largest Jewish community in Europe someday, because Jews will move there to escape anti-Semitism. So, migration and the Great Replacement are okay, as long as they are done by Jews.

Again, to a “normie” Hungarian who may have no particular animus against Jews and Israel, such policies still smack of putting another nation’s interests first — not just before Hungary’s national interests but before Orbán’s personal political interests as well. Such self-defeating sycophancy is all too familiar to Americans watching the Trump administration committing suicide at Netanyahu’s request.

And this brings us to the Trump Question.

One of Orbán’s best traits is that he understands metapolitics. One of his best metapolitical initiatives has been to promote Hungarian-style national populism to Western conservatives. This is moving the “Overton window” in the Right direction. The Danube Institute and CPAC Hungary have been particularly effective outreach projects.

But influence is a two-way street, and there has been a strong backwash of Trumpian style “slopulism” into Hungary. Since nothing says “America First” like fawning over Israeli war criminals, the recent CPAC Hungary conference was to feature Netanyahu as a guest of honor. Unfortunately, he was detained by launching another genocide. I was also disturbed to see American flags being waved at CPAC Hungary. Again, this looks like putting another country first, even to Hungarians who are strongly pro-American. As a Yankee, the first words that came to my mind were “Jenkik haza!”

Orbán’s second problem was “corruption.” Hungary isn’t a particularly corrupt society, even by the ratings of a biased organization like Transparency International, which gives Hungary a 40/100 rating, whereas the United States has 65/100. Hungary is ranked 84 out of 182 countries worldwide, tied with Cuba.

Of course, all this depends on how one defines corruption. I define it as a public servant putting one’s personal interests or foreign interests ahead of the common good. I do not, however, think that political “patronage,” i.e., giving concrete benefits to one’s political supporters is necessarily corrupt. But it all depends on how that patronage is used.

Just a few years ago, Hungary was stunned by a genuinely evil and stupid Fidesz patronage scandal.

In 2019, one “János V.,” the director of a state-run orphanage, was sentenced to prison for sexually abusing boys. One of his underlings, Endre Konya, was also sentenced to prison for attempting to coerce victims to drop their accusations. Konya comes from a Calvinist family, and asked the Calvinist bishop, Zoltán Balog, for a little favor. Balog was the mentor of Katalin Novák, the Fidesz President of Hungary. Konya had nine months left of his sentence. But he did not want to wait. He wanted a pardon. He also wanted his record expunged, which apparently would also wipe out . . . a five-year ban on working with children.

Astonishingly, Novák saw no problem with this. So she and Justice Minister Judit Varga cooked up a pardon. In a surreal touch, he was pardoned along with 21 other criminals . . . in honor of Pope Francis’ visit to Budapest in 2023.

In 2024, an opposition journalist discovered the scandal. Orbán knew nothing about the pardon and was as outraged as the rest of the country. Novák and Varga were forced to resign for colossal political stupidity.

I don’t want to be “that guy,” but I can’t help wondering if these women were really the best candidates for their jobs, or if Orbán was playing the typical American conservative game of pandering to progressives by promoting “our minorities” beyond their level of competence.

Judit Varga especially is the gift that keeps on giving, for her ex-husband is none other than Péter Magyar, Hungary’s new Prime Minister.

Third and finally, Orbán allowed Magyar to outflank him on his signature issue, namely immigration. Orbán has brought a lot of jobs to Hungary by luring companies like Mercedes Benz, Samsung, and BYD (Build Your Dreams), China’s largest EV maker, to build factories there.

Unfortunately, not all these jobs are going to Hungarians. Orbán is importing guest workers from places like the Philippines, some of which are being housed in small villages in Fidesz’s stronghold, the Hungarian countryside. This was asking for trouble.

Hungarian liberals are surprisingly “based.” Thus I was not totally surprised last year when a liberal Budapest urbanite began complaining that, when he and a friend got on a bus in the Hungarian countryside, they were the only white people onboard. Magyar probably sewed up a lot of rural votes when he promised to send Orbán’s guest workers back.

National populists in every white country need to learn from these mistakes. I am pretty sure that Orbán will learn from them as well. Barring prosecution or a change in the Hungarian constitution, I hope Orbán will return — tan, rested, and hopefully a bit thinner — in 2030.

I have no idea what Péter Magyar really believes. Just as it is foolish to dislike Ukraine because libtards cheer for it, so too is it foolish to conclude that Magyar is bad because liberals are cheering for him. After all, these people are stupid enough to call Orbán a dictator.

I also have no idea how Magyar will actually govern. His Tisza party is a coalition of widely divergent tendencies, from Right and Left. He will have to govern his own party first before he can govern the nation. My hope is that Fidesz will side with him on sensible reforms and will be able to block anything foolish by wooing Tisza defectors to their side. The prospect of Orbán’s return in four years — or a new Fidesz standard-bearer — will also limit Magyar.

I am predicting, however, that Magyar will soon disappoint the Eurocrats, for the same reason that even without Orbán, “Orbánism” will continue to rise in Hungary and the rest of the white world: national populism is the only solution for the problems of liberalism, migration, and globalization.

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  1. The timing of this works great for Orban and his party. The EU is just days away from a disastrous fuel shortage and economic depression that Orban had warned about for years. By the next election, Hungarians will want his return and a new economic block outside the collapsed EU.


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    • Agree: Tom Welsh, Getaclue
    • Thanks: Agent76, Emslander
  2. Mactoul says:

    A remarkably balanced article at Unz. Rare to find an author here who does not rave and rant. Nice.

    • Agree: Annacath
  3. Hail says: • Website

    Greg Johnson here writes an excellent essay on the Hungary election of 2026, giving coherently one reasonable view (set of explanations) on the Orban defeat’s causes.

    (As often with GJ’s writing, this is largely a “vehicle” to push other views on things. The bulk of this essay could’ve stood alone, minimizing or even removing reference to Orban and Hungary. Little would have to be changed to make the points stay coherent. )

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  4. Hail says: • Website

    For some other views on Viktor Orban and Peter Magyar; on the meaning of Orban, for Europe and Western Man; on Orban’s late-1980s to mid-2020s political career; on the 2026 election (the potential end of Orban’s political career); and on Orban’s legacy —

    I offer the following, published elsewhere at this website:

    — (1.) “Viktor Orban defeated in Hungary, out as prime minister” and several follow-ups:

    — (2.) “What will be Orban’s legacy“;

    — (3.) “Steve Sailer comments on the defeat of Orban“;

    — (4.) “On the political incoherence of the winning coalition in Hungary“;

    — (5.) An interesting analysis on the EU’s influence behind electing Peter Magyar, “The EU didn’t just influence Hungary’s election, It engineered the outcome,” by Alexander Muse;

    — (6.) An alternative view (from Alexander Muse’s), by a Hungarian writing under the name “Peter Zed,” offering Five Reasons for Orban’s defeat in April 2026.

  5. ghali says:

    Orbán is not only hated by the majority of the Hungarian people, but he is also disliked by most Europeans and Muslims. He is seen as a bigoted, racist Zionist. The only people who miss Orbán are Trump himself and Putin, a coin with two sides.

    • Disagree: bike-anarkist, Rurik
    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Pythas
  6. Layman says:

    Wow, a whole article on why Orban lost without a single mention of the oil pipeline and its sabotage by the Ukraine… lamenting about him being “pro-Russian” (come on, really?) without mentioning Hungary’s dependence on the Russian oil… how do you do that?

    • Replies: @John1357642
  7. Ukraine War: NATO encroachment, “poke the bear,” the “Maidan coup,”

    The author seems to think these are memes rather than simple truths.

    • Replies: @Greg Johnson
  8. Tom Welsh says:

    “Hungary’s Viktor Orbán is both the smartest politician in Europe and, from my point of view, the most ideologically sound. Thus it came as a big surprise that he was soundly trounced in last Sunday’s elections”.

    Contrariwise! Apparently Hungarian voters do not differ much from US voters.

    ‘Our deep registry of historical memory reveals that American voters have never found any sort of erudite candidate appealing. The first election I recall between Eisenhower and Adlai Stevenson imprinted this exchange: “Governor Stevenson, you have the vote of all the thinking people,” to which he replied, “That’s not enough, madam. I need a majority”’.

    – Joseph Natoli, “Bottom-Feeders with Low Information” https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/02/09/bottom-feeders-with-low-information/

  9. Anon[104] • Disclaimer says:

    Hardest hit: “we can just pay women to birth!!” copers. Time for “white nationalist” to face reality: women do not want kids anywhere and for any reason. Only reason they ever did was the absence of any alternative.

    • Disagree: Hail
  10. So is Soros coming back to Hungary with his Open Society, open borders and other operations?

  11. His new slogan, “Fogjunk össze a háború ellen” means “Let’s unite against the war,” meaning the Ukraine War, meaning unite against helping Ukraine, which basically means: let’s reward Russian aggression.

    Not wanting to commit to a protracted conflict on your doorstep is not “rewarding Russian aggression”, it is the “safe choice”. You have to accept that there are some parties in this world that do not want to join your crusade.

    It makes no sense at all for a small nation with a weak economy, which you and anyone sane admit Hungary to be, to let itself get dragged into a conflict with Russia. It is as much national suicide as throwing open the doors for the sake “our values”. The latter phrase is a whiteskin hypnosis tactic – for Ukraine you must immolate yourself for “democracy”; for immigrants, you must be outnumbered for “human rights”.

    Normal people do not want either. If anyone says “I don’t mind my small country going broke and getting smashed because muh democracy”, they’re obviously not mentally sound. And Orban wouldn’t have been sane to side with Zelenskyy after a public, televised death threat from the latter.

    I’m not sure that a big factor in Orbán’s loss wasn’t simply Magyar’s better looks. Visual appeal goes a long way with the smartphone generation, which is now actually everyone.

    The younger set are also exposed to far more “RuZZia okupant” memes than “Russia stronk”, which is very 2020. This is just how the algo works: it feeds you what it thinks you want to see – and, of course, what the bluehairs pulling the strings want you to see, which is anti-Russian goyfeed.

    Unfortunately, not all these jobs are going to Hungarians. Orbán is importing guest workers from places like the Philippines, some of which are being housed in small villages in Fidesz’s stronghold, the Hungarian countryside. This was asking for trouble.

    Hungary experiences the same labor drain as the rest of Europe. Most white people do not want to do things with their hands anymore. Magyar will fare no better in solving this problem.

  12. I do not think it is true what Johnson writes about Russia. The Fidesz position was always Hungary should not go along with the antiRussian hysteria of the West because it is not within the interests of Hungary (nor of Europe) to do so. Hungary carried on normal diplomatic relations with Russia, there was nothing pro-Russian about it, but in the West, gripped by the hysteria, that can be presented as if it was pro Russian.

    It is true that Hungarians can be manipulated easily to hate Russia, based on a misuse of 1956 (in 1956 there was no such country as Russia on the map, so Russia can not be blamed for that, although this happens regularly), or 1848-1849. So it may be that with a lot of people, the most primitive ones, Hungary having a pro Russian image did not go well. It is hard to say whether they were the majority though.

    But there is another historical point to be made. Hungary allied with Hitler in World War II, attacked the USSR. And they were slaughtered. For two reasons. One, because the USSR started winning and became stronger, two, because Hitler only used the Hungarian soldiers as cannon fodder, and sacrificed them in one of the worst battles. Today’s Hitler is Ursula von der Leyen, and she now has her ally ruling Hungary, and the same thing could happen.

    On the other hand, personally, I hated Orbán’s pro Israel stance, and I was not too thrilled by their pro Trump stance either, after Trump stated wars on behalf of Israel. Interestingly, after 1989, in Hungary, there appeared a Christian Fundamentalist group, probably financed from abroad, called the “Hit Gyülekezete” (Community of the Faith). This group was first allied with a liberal party, an enemy of Orbán. The liberal party disappeared, but the group is now one of the main publicity platforms of the party of Orbán.

    The author may have a point though, that it is easy to get Hungarians to hate Russia, and they probably do not care about Israel’s genocide of the Palestinians. It is hard to get accurate tests of public opinion on these.

    I find this sad, because Russia is now Europe’s leading economy, most powerful country, and one who asserts itself, does not simply take orders from Tel Aviv or Washington DC. Also, there is a realignment in the world with the emergence of the multipolar world order. The US/Israel can not simply force its will on Iran, and many African countries have turned away from the West too.

    Although I was pro Orbán on many things for a very long time, Hungary and Europe will need a completely different foreign policy approach to deal with that new situation. I do not think that the current govt will bring any of that (probably it will bring EU level incompetence and corruption), but even Orbán’s Fidesz was only partly up this task too….

    • Thanks: Layman, Joe Levantine, Rurik
    • Replies: @John1357642
  13. Most western societies will get sick of their political leader after (s)he has been entrenched in power for as much as 20 years, 16 of them consecutively, as was the case with Orbán. In Europe this was seen with DeGaulle, who had been in power as president for over 10 years, Thatcher, who had been in power for 11 years, Austrian chancellor Kreisky, who has been in power for 13 years, as well as Kohl and Merkel; both of them had been chancellor for over 16 years.

    This article failed to mention that the three primary leaders responsible for the European mass invasion debacle in the late summer of 2015 were Pope Francis, who openly encouraged mass migration to Europe, particular of Africans reaching the Italian island of Lampedusa by boat, Viktor Orbán, who pointedly refused to contain the emerging onslaught, as hordes from the Middle East were allowed to arrive in Budapest by train from Serbia, and Angela Merkel, who subsequently relaxed existing German laws or obligations and instead publicly welcomed millions of them for months. If Orbán had acted firmly in the summer of 2015 and sent them back to Turkey directly, or through Serbia, in accordance with his subsequent public rhetoric – after the damage had already been done – then many European countries would have been spared the adverse consequences that ensued.

    A few years ago I saw a group photo of over thirty European leaders. The only person among them who was conspicuously overweight was Orbán, who is truly fat and ugly. His silly hair-style makes him appear very weird. Though it is OK for a young male rock star to split his shoulder length hair evenly along the top of the head, among gray haired men this is usually reserved for English butlers. Nowadays this simplistic hair-style is even rare among younger women with long hair.

    About the recent election campaign (presumably posters and TV ads) the author wrote:

    For a long time, Orbán’s face was nowhere to be seen. Instead, most Fidesz posters featured Zelensky, Ursula von der Leyden [sic], and Péter Magyar.

    This was the same tactic that allowed Orbán to re-emerge 16 years ago. He had hired Arthur Finkelstein, a now deceased American campaign consultant, who had successfully enabled Netanyahu to gain power in the election campaign agains Perez, a year after the Rabin assassination, in a smear campaign. In 2010, after Orbán had been in the opposition for eight years, Finkelstein arranged for him to run against George Soros in his re-election campaign, even though Soros was not a candidate, just as Zelensky and von der Leyen were not running for office in Hungary this year either.

    I doubt that Orbán will return back to high office in Hungary, though he will likely be part of the parliamentary opposition. After having been rejected by more than a third of the participating electorate (over 80% turnout last Sunday), his reputation will surely be tarnished by criminal investigations associated with his corrupt rule. Good riddance! The only currently elected European leader who has been in power longer than he has is Alexander Lukashenko from Belarus, who has been at the top for 31 years, not because he is popular but because he acts as a de-facto dictator, like Putin, the modern successor of the Mongol-Turkic Golden Horde (non-European) duchy of Muscovy.

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    , @Poupon Marx
  14. Critique says:

    There is another strange thing in Hungary. Jews are moving back from Israel, and real estate prices are unaffordable for ordinary Hungarians…

    Gilad Atzmons once said “we are all Palestinians”….

  15. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:

    There’s a whole generation that grew up under Orban’s leadership. It would have taken a relatively small amount of pro-EU money to swing the youth vote against him.

  16. Franz says:

    For good or ill, Orban is getting a break. Being the Great Man for 16 years is even too much for a, well, great man.

    Let him cool his jets a bit and see the big picture. He’s a smart man. I’d like to read his memoirs.

    • Agree: Greg Johnson
    • Replies: @Greg Johnson
    , @Hail
  17. Miro23 says:

    It quickly became economically dependent on Western Europe, especially Germany, which is hell-bent on self-destruction: liberalism, multiculturalism, political correctness, Green energy, migration, de-industrialization, Covid hysteria, etc.

    Germany has the feature that it always takes things to crazy extremes. Whether it’s militarism, nationalism, engineering, multiculturalism, political correctness, Green energy (nuclear no-thanks”), migration, Covid hysteria or total abasement to Israel/Zionism.

    Gaza is not happening as far as they are concerned + Russia plans to invade Europe + Russia blew up it’s own pipelines + 90 year old grandmothers have to be imprisoned for giving truthful evidence about the “Holocaust”.

    So bad luck for Hungary but what about Orban.

    Like Trump, Orban is particularly cozy with Netanyahu, even after his utterly barbaric treatment of Gaza. In fact, when the International Criminal Court indicted Netanyahu for war crimes in 2024, Orban withdrew Hungary from the court and rolled out the red carpet for Netanyahu to visit Hungary in 2025.

    Recently, Orbán boasted that Hungary will have the largest Jewish community in Europe someday, because Jews will move there to escape anti-Semitism. So, migration and the Great Replacement are okay, as long as they are done by Jews.

    Then there’s Péter Magyar.

    I have no idea what Péter Magyar really believes.

    According to this article https://substack.com/home/post/p-194307947, he wants what George Soros´Open Society Foundation wants him to want. Obeisance to Brussels, mass immigration and war with Russia.

    The EU Didn’t Just Influence Hungary’s Election, It Engineered The Outcome
    What happened in Hungary was not an election. It was a leveraged buyout. The EU froze the money, funded the opposition ecosystem, blocked transparency about that funding, shielded the replacement candidate from accountability, hid his voting record, and then, the moment he won, moved to strip the structural power that had made Hungarian sovereignty possible in the first place. Every individual component has a bureaucratic justification. Taken together, they constitute a pattern that no honest observer can describe as anything other than institutional interference in a sovereign nation’s democratic process.

    The European Union bureaucracy is an Israel occupied mess led by the ridiculous puppet Ursula von der Leyen (“Europe is the values of the Talmud”).

  18. G. Poulin says:

    Good-bye, Hungary. Your country will now become a big gay bath house like the rest of what was formerly Europe. Nice going, idiots.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  19. @random bogan

    Once again, the Russia obsessives immediately try to hijack a comment thread.

    Yes, they are all memes, not “simple truths.”

    • Replies: @xyzxy
    , @eah
  20. Orban 16, a calvinist, his loss had been predestined. he should flee to Moscow before they pull a Lula on him, or is it Bolsonaro? Hungarian people may soon become hungry for the times of Orban when the epstein class flood their lands with the usual suspects. goodbye Europa. viva Italia!

  21. Hail says: • Website
    @ghali

    Orbán is…disliked by most Europeans and Muslims

    You’re right that Orban is probably more than disliked than liked, among politically active Muslims who pay attention to European politics, and who care to have an opinion about it (which is probably quite a small minority of Muslims globally), but…

    The very fact of the above paragraph means lots of Europeans do like him.

    _________

    I agree with Greg Johnson that it was a big mistake for Orban to fall for Israel’s and Netanyahu’s ploys. But — it would’ve been just as much a mistake, for Orban, to have declared in favor of Muslims (to “suspend disbelief” and assume such a thing possible).

    Orban’s recent political career has been oriented in favor of White Europe. Imperfectly. With roadblocks and mistakes along the way. But for White(-Christian) Europe. A record better, on that account, than that of any other stable, long-term government in the EU.

    • Replies: @ghali
  22. anon[517] • Disclaimer says:

    So, will Hungary now be blessed with “diversity”? Hey Hungarian girls, be the first ones on your block to be gang raped by homo erectus. Gee, now Hungarians can enjoy the pleasures of hearing a call to prayer 5 fucking times a day. Von Der Leyen must be rubbing herself silly knowing that another white country is going to be destroyed. Maybe its time to awaken the ghosts of 1956, only this time no soviet tanks to stop them.

  23. xyzxy says:
    @Greg Johnson

    Once again, the Russia obsessives immediately try to hijack a comment thread.

    It would be unbelievable if it was coming from anyone but Johnson. Writes an article about Hungarian politics, with Russia as one of a central theme, but anyone subsequently calling Greg’s position anent Russia into question is now attempting to ‘hijack’ the debate?

  24. eah says:
    @Greg Johnson

    You brought up Russia vis-a-vis Hungary and the recent election — one comment about what you wrote does not represent a ‘hijacking’, nor is it evidence of an ‘obsession’ — grow the fuck up.

    So the prissy little snowflake, who demands full decorum in all discourse, is back with even more nonsense about Ukraine, e.g. ‘NATO encroachment’ on Russia is just ‘propaganda’, and without Ukraine serving as a geographical buffer, Russia would be a threat to Hungary (‘the vast majority of Hungarians are pleased that Russia is far away from their borders, and Ukraine just happens to be the country that is keeping them away’).

    If ‘the crowd was chanting Ruszkik Haza!’, that just shows how stupid the masses generally are — they should’ve been ‘chanting’ for the 65k Ukrainian refugees to ‘go home’ (to western Ukraine, which is safe).

    But speaking of Jew-run Ukraine, and regarding its ‘glorious reassertion of sovereignty’, an update: they’re sending women on bicycles to the front.

  25. Hail says: • Website
    @Franz

    Orban is getting a break

    In his post-election speech it seemed he intends to lead the opposition in parliament.

    Everyone has been pointing out he looks both conspicuously overweight and tired.

    • Agree: Franz
  26. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Homeland_Movement

    Mi Hazánk got almost 6% of the vote, they are the real Nationalist alternative in Hungary and should get a mention in an article like this…even though they seem to disagree with Mr. Johnson on the Ukraine war.

    Their election result is somewhat hidden on the main search engines, Google and also DDGo refused to answer my plain questions about «what party came third in hungary’s recent elections?» and would rather line up stuff about how Peter Magyar is a great guy who will put things right with the EU.

    I feel kind of ashamed for linking to Wikipedia and if someone would bother to find a site where Mi Hazánk present themselves in English I would appreciate it.

    • Agree: Annacath, Greg Johnson
    • Replies: @Norwegian Troll
  27. I have a lot of ties to Hungary. NO rightwing hungarian supported the embarassment that is Orban. He is a gypsy, a homosexual, a jew, a drug addict, a gay communist football fan, a fat bastard, a zionist, a batty boy, a traitor, a soros apparatchik, has hypertension and is not even hungarian.

    • Replies: @ganainm
  28. Orban lost for the same reason the left triumphed in Canada – he is tied too closely to Trump.

    • Agree: Hail
  29. Polak says:

    Lasciate tutta speranza? Not necessarily.

    There’s good reason to believe that Magyar, as a long-time aparatchik of inner circles of Fidesz power is just a very well marketed and concealed shill of Orban.

    His stand on Ukraine, Russian oil, need to avoid the war are the same as Orban’s. Shift of power was inevitable anyway. And continuity demands change (vide Burke,Lampedusa). In this case it’s a change of a candidate, not policy.

    Victor has gotten a big file on Ursula van der Lier’s corruption during her long and wicked tenure. It involves Pfizergate and Ukrainian schacher macher. I believe he stands a chance to become European Comission president in next elections. Either EU will be ruled by its critics or it will collapse.

  30. Anonymous[398] • Disclaimer says:

    Peter Magyar will certainly annul the visas of about five thousand Indian IT workers that Victor Orban had given OK to and replace them with fellow Turkic speaking lot, albeit, they’re not tech workers and Muslims to boot but it’ll be good optics for him and his party. In any case, best of luck to Hungarians, after all, I did like the Gabor sisters.

  31. Notsofast says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    spot on with your comment. after digesting this situation for a couple days, it dawned on me, that wily orban may have allowed the e.u. and their ukranazi pets to rig and win this election. he had received death threats from the goblin king himself, saying he would give his boys the address of orban, so they could talk to him. they also said they know where his family lives.

    the e.u. is practicing the ways of the talmud, as von der lyin’ revealed shamelessly, to the point that it’s o.k. to issue death threats against world leaders openly. just like the israeli apartheid state, that zelensky wants to emulate, monkey see, monkey do.

    the orders were already standing for a maidan style bloody coup, if orban won, a george soros funded color revolution. orban is no dummy, he may have just let them rig and win this “landslide election”, knowing his people will know it was rigged and that magyar, will then oversee the destruction of their economy, as well as ending the popular energy subsidies, that have so far protected the hungarian people from the rampant inflation in energy prices felt by the rest of the e.u.

    this was a major reason the e.u. wanted orban out, as hungary was making the e.u. look bad to their citizens, giving an example of a european government that put it’s citizens needs first. the hungarian people are about to be magaized. the magat magyar, is just like trump. he comes in talking about hungary first, claiming he is the same as orban, just minus the corruption, but he will immediately be pushing the zog agenda.

    that mask will fall away very soon, as he starts following e.u. directives and his people will realize they have been had, and will demand a return to orban’s party, corruption and all, in the next election, if there is a next election.

  32. @Norwegian Troll

    Here is a very short condensation of their program in English:

    https://mihazank.hu/dawn-program/

  33. The author failed to say what a con populism is, if it’s about giving the people what they want, then at the very least a facility for the population to veto bad policy should be advocated.

    It’s time the peoples of the world got off their knees, they still think they are handing over their own authority to experts, whereas it can only ever be the self interest of those at the top in a hierarchical society.

    They’ve been at this shit since Sargon the Great was floating down the river.

    • Thanks: Liza
  34. zil says:

    He’s pro Israel. He won’t be missed no matter what good work he has done.

    A tag of pro-Israel is pretty much like pro mass murder.

    • Replies: @PNIN
  35. Che Guava says:
    @G. Poulin

    Greg J. seems to live there now, or nearby. More of a gay bath-house scene would, it seems, suit his personal proclivities at times.

    The Ukraine has a jewish government which is extremely repressive. Thus, it gains support from other zogistans.

    So Greg J. supports Zelensky.

    • Replies: @John1357642
  36. Orban had a kosher schlong so far down his throat it’s a wonder he could breath

    He was controlled opposition, just exactly like AFD in Germany is

    For the fake Jews to rule by deception there can be no real opposition that would expose their scams

    BTW, Putin, Xi and Trump all have the same puppetmasters

    • Replies: @xyzxy
  37. @Layman

    The author is a dishonest ukronazi nafo. They are the best at lying with omissions.

    • Thanks: Gerbils
  38. pro-Russian propaganda tropes on the Ukraine War: NATO encroachment, “poke the bear,” the “Maidan coup,” etc.

    Those aren’t tropes, you numpty. Those are demonstrably true, historical events.

    Your article is globalist propaganda.

  39. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    He behaves like an entitled beggar- Hey ,I have been begging standing on my feet for hours .I deserve the small changes.

    How this Orban fucker can reconcile his support for Netayhau ,Israel ,IDF and rave against displacement migration, and illegal squatting ? How can this sob support Trump who lived an Epsteimized life,allowed himself to be browbeaten by Netayahu and bribed by Adelshon gambling kosher eterprise?
    That moron dont have to fear anything from muslims or migrations. Hungary has been invaded by Indians not by mulsims not by massive migrations. He thinks he can support wars against Arab against Afrucaners which give rise to migrations but keep on denouncing migrations . His cajone was made of Hungarian clay.

    He behaves like an entitled beggar- Hey ,I have been begging standing on my feet for hours .I deserve the small chnages. He reasons that he has shilled so much for Israel and labored hard against migrations that he should be given the crown back.

    No man it doesnt work that way. You cant sleep with the dog and expect to wake up smelling nice and free of fleas . Abort Israel .Abort war-mongering future leader of US whether draped in woke or MAGA.
    Hegesteh wont rescue you neither Jared Taylor of Steve Sailer of this website.

  40. @A Hungarian

    Orban’s mistake was supporting israel. This easily lose him a lot of votes, since it is easily the most hated country.

    He should’ve been consistent and follow Russia’s foreign policy and backs Russian allies in the region over israel.

    • Agree: Gerbils
  41. @Che Guava

    These gays will always hate Russia for refusing to celebrate sodomy.

    There’s only one gay I know who is not an outright russophobe and that’s glenn greenwald.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  42. He apparently really likes the Polish person by the name of Mileikowsky.

  43. @Been_there_done_that

    An element of truth here: time to change out leadership after 16 years.
    Recall the Mark Twain quote: Politicians should be changed out often like a baby’s diaper and for the same reason.

    That said, I am a big fan of Orban. He is lightyears ahead of the scummy, woke democrats we have running the blue states. I vistited Budapest in 2018 and found the city and the people delightful. My wife and I stayed there a week and never ran out of interesting places to visit. The public trans is clean and well run. Never saw one ni66er or niqab. Just happy White people everywhere.

  44. Orbán is importing guest workers from places like the Philippines, some of which are being housed in small villages in Fidesz’s stronghold, the Hungarian countryside.

    Same as Trump…

    Appearing to be strong on immigration, but in actuality, just playing politics.

  45. Agent76 says:

    Apr 16, 2026 What remains after Viktor Orbán | DW News

    Hungary voted for change, but Viktor Orban spent 16 years making sure power doesn’t just disappear after an election.


    Video Link

  46. @not hoytmonger

    Same as PiS in Poland did… gave 400 o00 visas to Asian darkies…. imported knife-wielding Latinos (who can often enter EU without visa like Colombians). It seems as long as they aren’t manifestly Muslim it is ok.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_cash-for-visa_scandal

    https://www.polskieradio.pl/395/7789/artykul/3547665,polish-police-detain-colombian-over-fatal-stabbing-protests-erupt

    Let’s hope that jet fuel crisis will finish all these transatlantic Uber drivers.

    Why hackers never target Uber(eats) or Bolt..?

    • Replies: @Pythas
  47. saoirse says:

    Sucking up to Pissrael and jews in general is all I need to know about whether some politico is willfully putting his/her country in hospice status. Russia, Trump, Germany, Ukraine etc. are all symptoms of the virulent kosher virus, which is terminal for all who contract it!
    The only cure at this point is severe die-off on a global scale. Only then can those that are immune to the Hebrew pestilence stand a chance at defeating whatever strains of it remain.

    • Thanks: Gerbils
  48. Interesting article. Didn’t follow the election, but did suspect aligning yourself with the insane Jewish war lord known as Trump is not a good idea.

  49. xyzxy says:
    @2stateshmoostate

    For the fake Jews to rule by deception there can be no real opposition that would expose their scams … Xi and Trump all have the same puppetmasters.

    I think we can all name some names when it comes to Trump. He himself brags about the money the Tribe bribes him with. However… since you made the claim, can you give us a list of, say, five ‘fake Jews’ who are controlling Xi Jinping? Maybe three? What about two? One?

    And after you’ve named names, how about a brief on exactly how these ‘fake Jews’ are controlling the Communist Party of China? How they control the Political Bureau, and set monetary policy via the Bank of China? How they set China’s ‘five year plan’ agendas? I mean, it should be easy for you to do, since you evidently have the insiders track.

    But you are not alone. Other’s here on TUR have claimed the same idiotic thing, and I occasionally reply with similar questions. But never get an answer. LOL

    • Replies: @2stateshmoostate
  50. Marcali says:

    When Hungarians say “Russians” they mean “Ukrainians” as well, or any people from the vast multi-national empire.

  51. Hungary’s Viktor Orbán is both the smartest politician in Europe and, from my point of view, the most ideologically sound. Thus it came as a big surprise that he was soundly trounced in last Sunday’s elections.

    Mr. Johnson, really? That Orbán is “the smartest politician in Europe” and “that he was soundly trounced in last Sunday’s elections” is the most expected relationship between wisdom and democracy. I have been studying the leadership of the Iranian government, and if you take just one example, Iranian foreign minister Abbas Araghchi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbas_Araghchi), he has not only degrees in international relations but a doctorate in political theory from the University of Kent. A previous foreign minister, Hossein Amir-Abdollahian, has a similar background with excellent publications.

    Compare these individuals to Marco Rubio, or almost any other person to hold the office of Secretary of State. We have a foolish foreign policy, and the reason we have a foolish foreign policy is that we have fools running our foreign policy; fools appointing fools to the position of Secretary of State; and yes, fools electing those fools.

    When Donald Trump says that Tucker Carlson et alia have low IQ, he is engaging in one of the most obvious acts of projection in our public life, and he confirms for all of us what we all know. That Donald Trump is a profound idiot. He has idiocy in the marrow of his bones. But we can be sure, that Trump will provoke a counter-reaction that is every bit as foolish as his administration, though in a slightly different direction.

    There is wisdom yet in the world, but it is in the deliberations of the Chinese Communist Party, in the policies of the Iranian Revolutionary government, and perhaps in some of the cabinets of Old Europe. The reason we, the United States, so violently and thoroughly oppose these countries is that they have wisdom. I think it is probably one of the surest proofs of our folly is that our government seems to seriously believe that the private religious experiences of a Mesopotamian cattle herder give the Jews of the European diaspora clear title to Palestinian Arab real estate. This belief shows that not only Christian Zionists and Americans are stupid, but that the average Jew— in spite of his reputation as a high intellect race— is also quite stupid (as well as incredibly vain). George Will has recently recently that we Americans should be opposed to superstition, but he swallows wholesale the oldest and most profoundly foolish superstition in the Western Hemisphere.

    • Replies: @Greg Johnson
  52. @xyzxy

    I have no idea the names of the fake Jews who run Xi

    Xi was made president for life several years ago after a CCP palace coup, which the Jewish Press discribed as a victory against corruption, what a joke that is.

    That’s a big tell tale there.

    Xi was all in on the Covid fraud, indeed he got the ball rolling,

    That in itself is all you need to know that he is controlled opposition

    • Replies: @Tigerlily
  53. Beyond that, pro-Russian attitudes in Hungary are largely rooted in the same witless “Russia stronk” memes and delusions about Russia being a stronghold of white, conservative values so common in the Western far-Right.

    This alignment between Mr. Johnson’s white nationalism and the prerogatives of US foreign policy, in particular support for the provocation of Ukraine, is the biggest red flag about his work. I think it is the convergence of Russian Orthodoxy and Christian populism that marked out common ground between Russia and Orban. Poland signed up with NATO/America, and the Rainbow Flag flies over Catholic Poland. I think it is the anti-NATO, anti-EU, and pro-Christian themes that appealed to Orban.

    Frankly, President Putin spoke up against the radical gay agenda, and also against NATO expansion. These two things are intricately inter-related— inextricably interwoven. I am not against legal protections for gays, but what the US has done in promoting the corruption of the moral character of youth— the corruption of the sexual identity of youth— is UNFORGIVABLE.

    What has happened to the United States and the West cannot be un-done. Those civilizations that will survive the next century will be those who cut themselves off from the Internet and its streaming internet pornography and preserve the moral character of their citizens as a top priority. This means that Islamic civilization will survive, Chinese civilization will survive, and if it makes sharp changes, Russian civilization will survive (cutting off the Internet). But America will collapse, as any country that not only tolerates but promotes moral degeneration will collapse.

    • Agree: anno nimus
  54. Gerbils says:

    Xi was made president for life several years ago after a CCP palace coup, which the Jewish Press discribed as a victory against corruption, what a joke that is.

    This is unfortunate. Mao was installed by jews but I hoped that the chinese had moved away from their masters.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  55. ghali says:
    @Hail

    The overwhelming majority of Europe despises Orban, not because he is a right-wing racist Shabbos-goy, but also because of his dog-like relationship with Putin, whom they see as a backstabber.

  56. Gerbils says:
    @6502Assembly

    This alignment between Mr. Johnson’s white nationalism and the prerogatives of US foreign policy, in particular support for the provocation of Ukraine, is the biggest red flag about his work.

    Good catch. I have always felt Greg was a liar and a fraud.

  57. @6502Assembly

    This alignment between Mr. Johnson’s white nationalism and the prerogatives of US foreign policy, in particular support for the provocation of Ukraine, is the biggest red flag about his work. I think it is the convergence of Russian Orthodoxy and Christian populism that marked out common ground between Russia and Orban. Poland signed up with NATO/America, and the Rainbow Flag flies over Catholic Poland.

    Poland has a positive birth rate while Russia’s birth rate is at a 200 year low
    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/04/14/russias-birth-rate-plunges-to-200-year-low-a88709

    Russia’s birth rate is so low that Putin stopped releasing statistics.

    Why don’t you explain in rational terms as to why White nationalists should support a multi-racial empire invading a smaller but more Orthodox country.

    Please use rational terms and explain exactly the benefits to each population.

    Note that Putin has referred to Russia as a multi-racial and multi-religious empire. Those are not my own terms.

    • Replies: @6502Assembly
  58. Pythas says:
    @ghali

    Muslim boy go back and live with your own kind chump. I don’t give a fuck if you want to live with us Western men and women, we don’t want your sorry asses living with us in our countries, you don’t belong here. And I don’t care how much of a fetish you sand-niggers have about our European-Western Culture and Civilization, boy. The thing is boy you and your kind always want to come and live with us and we certainty will never until the end of the world want to live with your kind. So get lost muslim your a pestilence. By the way you muslim shit Orban is not a semite and no he is not disliked by most Europeans alien-outlander boy they actually support his views, its the morons in Brussels that don’t. So get lost sand-nigger…

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @anon
  59. Pythas says:
    @Another Polish Perspective

    Ya all the darkies what to live with the White man and rape his women, curious don’t you think? I would purge out these motherfuckers in a heart beat and that includes jews who support importing dark alien shits in Western countries so they can feel safe. Fuck-off kike (and that includes most niggers who complain about the White man and these aliens nigs living in our countries) get the fuck out of our Western countries and you can go live with all the darkies (your kind) you want to. Have fun dip-shits. That will solve many problems we are having in our Western Nations today, many…

  60. @Gerbils

    I think I would substitute “intelligence operative” for “liar and fraud.” I have written to him about this using my own name. I asked for a copy of his talk “The Ideal Conservative Freemasonry”, and he sent it to me. He could neither confirm, nor did he deny the allegation.

  61. @John Johnson

    I am not offering my support for the Special Military Operation in the Donbass, nor am I taking sides in the relative Orthodoxy of Ukraine vs. Russia. The invasion of Ukraine (if you prefer, SMOD) took me by surprise. It bracketed my own sympathy for Putin and my Russophilia. I am not boosting Russia and putting Ukraine down.

    Overall, I still feel the way millions in Africa, India, China, and South America feel about what Putin did from around the 2008 Munich Security Conference Speech, the many speeches at Valdai, to the present. He stood up to the American Empire, and he showed it could be beaten. He defied Washington, the Pentagon, the CIA, and all those nasty State Department Officials like Victoria Nuland (for whose termination I, as an American, campaigned). I love Putin and Russia for the same reason I love George Washington, who stood up to the British Empire; for the same reason I love the Vietnamese, who fought ridiculous American soldiers in their jungles and prevailed; and for the same reason I love the Houthis and support the Islamic resistance to the ridiculous Jewish-Zionist occupation of Palestine. I support the rights of local peoples to govern themselves.

    The soft, buttery hands of Trump’s ridiculous Jewish commercial real estate “mullahs” Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff— these are ridiculous people to me, and I honestly don’t think that a ridiculous Empire run by such low IQ self-satisfied spoiled rich boys can last more than another week. In short, as an American, I hate tyranny, and the people who have run the US since 1948 but especially since the end of the Cold War are stupid, silly tyrants.

    As far as the Ukraine situation goes, the whole thing is a tragedy, but it is a tragedy which has at least been provoked by US policy; this much cannot be doubted. I side with George Kennan on the subject of NATO Expansion, as I would have sided with him on the partition of Palestine in 1948. I do not believe in the US provoking local conflicts that pit Arabs vs Jews, or Ukrainians vs Russians. I love Ukrainians, Russians, Palestinian Arabs and Jews.

    In my original post, I was simply saying I understand why Orban’s heart went out to Putin. Mine did too. Putin is a brave man, and if Ukrainians have died, it is in my opinion mainly the fault of capricious silly low IQ Americans like Victoria Nuland and, of course, the various Jewish-Ukrainian billionaire oligarchs who prop up Zelensky. Somewhere on this website is a great article by Andrew Joyce, “Jewish Subtexts in Ukraine.” Read it.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  62. @Pythas

    Orban is not a semite and no he is not disliked by most Europeans alien-outlander boy they actually support his views, its the morons in Brussels that don’t.

    Final vote tally is 53% to 39%
    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/europe/how-orban-defeated-himself

    Which means he is disliked by most Hungarians and that is what counts.

    I guess palling around with a Russian dictator in a country that was occupied by a hostile Moscow dictatorship for the entirety of the cold war wasn’t such a great idea. A dictatorship that enforced atheism in its elementary schools.

    Great job.

    Anyways it seems that most posters here missed that he was defeated by a center-right candidate and not a drag queen waving a rainbow NATO flag.

  63. @Been_there_done_that

    Alexander Lukashenko from Belarus, who has been at the top for 31 years, not because he is popular but because he acts as a de-facto dictator, like Putin, the modern successor of the Mongol-Turkic Golden Horde (non-European) duchy of Muscovy.

    “By ye words, will I know you are stupid and have sold your ass for a farthing.”

    What possessed you to characterize the co-dominant country and culture of industrial, scientific, technical and high spirituality and moral standards with deprecatory scribbling filth?

    Vladimir Putin towers over political and national leaders of several generations – by general and objective measure. You sound like a gasping GEFILTHY FISH.

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
  64. @Gerbils

    Good catch. I have always felt Greg was a liar and a fraud.

    Where is he lying? Is that what you call disagreeing with him?

    Why don’t you also take the same challenge I posited to Assembly.

    What is the rational reason for a White nationalist to support Russia when it is a multi-racial empire with a declining birth rate and is less Orthodox than Ukraine?

    Do you believe that former DPR territories will be improved when Putin brings in Muslim immigrants to populate them?

  65. @6502Assembly

    I am not offering my support for the Special Military Operation in the Donbass, nor am I taking sides in the relative Orthodoxy of Ukraine vs. Russia.

    Putin calls it a war now so you can drop the euphemism.

    He actually passed a law making it illegal to call it a war and then proceeded to break his own law.

    “We started the war too late” – Putin Feb 2024 in interview with Pavel Zarubin

    He stood up to the American Empire, and he showed it could be beaten.

    How was America beaten? They have donated mostly old equipment to Ukraine.

    Russia is not fighting America. If that were the case then Ukraine would be using the most modern tanks and jet fighters. Not a single F-35 or even F-22 has flown a mission in Ukraine. Most of the donated F-16s were not even working. Ukraine is fighting with third gen equipment with a few exceptions like HIMARS.

    America and other nations have donated weapons to Ukraine. They are aiding in a defensive war that has been fought with Ukrainian soldiers. At the start of the war Ukraine was fighting almost entirely with Soviet era weapons. Their supply of Javelins and NLAWs were purchased on the market. Ukraine uses American missiles and Russia uses North Korean missiles. Both sides use weapons made in other countries. Russia would in fact be in much worse shape if not for Iranian drones.

    I love Putin and Russia for the same reason I love George Washington, who stood up to the British Empire

    You believe that Putin is an underdog for trying to invade and conquer his smaller neighbor?

    As far as the Ukraine situation goes, the whole thing is a tragedy, but it is a tragedy which has at least been provoked by US policy; this much cannot be doubted. I side with George Kennan on the subject of NATO Expansion

    Ukraine never applied to NATO.

    Putin is a brave man, and if Ukrainians have died, it is in my opinion mainly the fault of capricious silly low IQ Americans like Victoria Nuland and, of course, the various Jewish-Ukrainian billionaire oligarchs who prop up Zelensky.

    And back to Nuland. What exactly did Nuland do? Let’s see you explain that in rational terms. Cause and effect rationalism please.

  66. Tigerlily says: • Website
    @2stateshmoostate

    “Xi was all in on the COVID fraud”…wasn’t he just…same goes for Putin and the Ayatoilet in Iran…like you said, controlled opposition!

  67. You are making very silly, very rhetorical points. I am not going to engage in this kind of discussion, since it is entirely clear that Nuland’s childish policy in Ukraine is part-and-parcel of NATO expansion; and that in standing up to NATO in Ukraine, Putin is confronting American military power (with its 330 million population) and the military power of the EU (with its 450 million population). So yes, in standing up to a combined power bloc of 780 million people, Putin has acted very bravely. Initially it is true that Putin sourced drones from Iran, but Russia has ramped up production of these Shahed and other drone models; Russia is now supplying Iran with drones!

    Nuland and her husband, and the larger neoconservative foreign policy establishment of the US, are part of a generation of American Jews, many of whose ancestors emerged from the old Pale of Settlement. They are Russophobes, and they bear the spirit of Antichristianity, which is one of the most deep-seated prejudices of Jews. It was irresponsible of the leadership class of the US to allow so many Jews to assume leadership positions in our foreign policy, since these people— deliberately kept of power for thousands of years in Christendom— do not have the psychological balance needed to wield geopolitical power on such a scale. I recommend this very honest discussion between two lovely American Jews, Katie Halper and Norman Finkelstein, on this very subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsrmxbcmMig.
    Video Link In their words, the exercise of Jewish power over the last 80 years has been a disaster. I descry and condemn anti-Semitism of any kind, but it is entirely clear that you and many lack the psychological balance to comprehend the events of recent days since you perceive things from a limited, and not a global, perspective.

    On the question of Israel, I recommend that you read, in particular, Robert McClintock’s May 4, 1948 Memo to Dean Rusk. This understanding of the Partition of Palestine by the old Anglo-Protestant guard of the United States shows that wiser heads understood perfectly what the future of the Middle East would be if Zionist Jews were ever set loose there: “The situation may be made more difficult and less clear-cut if, as is probable, Arab armies from outside Palestine cross the frontier to aid their disorganized and demoralized brethren who will be the objects of Jewish attack. In the event of such Arab outside aid the Jews will come running to the Security Council with the claim that their state is the object of armed aggression and will use every means to obscure the fact that it is their own armed aggression against the Arabs inside Palestine which is the cause of Arab counter-attack.” (https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1948v05p2/d210)

    The foreign policy of the United States in the post-Cold War era has been particularly dominated by such people as Victoria Nuland, Robert Kagan, Bill Kristol, et alia., whose devotion to the Zionist cause and to an aggressive, Semitic foreign policy for the US leaves them incapable of exercising the kind of reason that geopolitics demand. What has happened to the U.S. is that our ruling class has abandoned reason and substituted for reason the irrational political prejudices of Zionist Jews. One only needs to read Donald Trump’s Truth Social posts to understand what this looks like in practice.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  68. ganainm says:
    @ArbeitMachtUlsterFry

    Wow. Can you give more detail? They say Magyar is even more anti-immigration than Orban.

  69. ANON[417] • Disclaimer says:

    Orbán is not gone, he is back on the parliament benches as an opposition member with a party that made 40% in the elections.

    Orban was also:

    – A WEF young global leader (that is a groomed agent to ‘infiltrate the cabinets’ as Klaus Schwab once admitted).
    – A good friend of the child killer netanyahu (Budapest is full of Jews btw)
    – One of the worst dictator during the covid staged medical coup.
    – I read a lot of comments about Orban being controlled opposition, it’s possible but at least he refused Hungary to be flooded with fake refugee and lgbt/woke scum. I confirm that Budapest used to be one of the best city I ever seen in my life and I visited many (very safe too).

    Here is this article which, in my humble opinion, points exactly to Orban main mistakes:

    Hungary: Orbanism without Orban or a color revolution?
    https://strategic-culture.su/news/2026/04/17/hungary-orbanism-without-orban-or-color-revolution/

    “Nevertheless, beyond tying his image to Trump and Netanyahu at the worst possible moment, Orban’s fundamental error was being excessively moderate and centrist toward the power structures of the West” (…)
    “Orban was in a position to simply withdraw Hungary from NATO and even from the European Union. By not doing so, he gave Brussels the tools to influence Hungarian domestic politics, paving the way for his own defeat.”

    “But more importantly, insofar as Orban recognized the eurocrats as his enemies, his main goal should have been to nullify their power by withdrawing Hungary from these international structures. If the United Kingdom managed it, why couldn’t Hungary?”

    Orban had 16 years to prepare Hungary to leave the Brussel’s nightmare, he didn’t even try, if he had other countries would have followed.

    Next are Bulgarian elections, this time the anti-EU/anti Ukraine/NATO candidate is leading in the polls, but unlike Orban he is on the left. As usual the Brussels ZOG regime tries to rig the elections with the help of the Jew zuckerberg to censor anti-EU social media posts.

  70. Derh. says:

    Hungarians are a funny people.

    They present themselves as the guardians of “white Europe” from non-European invaders…..yet they themselves descent from non-European invaders.

  71. @6502Assembly

    You are making very silly, very rhetorical points. I am not going to engage in this kind of discussion, since it is entirely clear that Nuland’s childish policy in Ukraine is part-and-parcel of NATO expansion

    Repeating “we all know it was Nuland” is just as intellectually void as “cause we know race doesn’t exist”. Both cases aren’t actually arguments and repeating them doesn’t validate them as factual statements.

    What exactly did Nuland do? Are you saying their president was innocent of the charges?

    The vote to remove Yanukovych is on video
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26304842

    Did she make them vote or did she cause him to take bribes? Telling me that Nuland is Jewish does not establish cause and effect.

    How did he pay for this mansion with a meager government salary? Did Nuland make him take bribes?

    Video Link
    I realize that “see she is Jewish” counts as an argument in your mind and especially if repeated by multiple people but it doesn’t show cause and effect. In fact you are engaging in irrationalism which used to be looked down upon by White in politics. I can point out how Larry David is Jewish but that doesn’t create a connection to how the tides work.

    You also haven’t explained how supporting Russia makes sense for a White nationalist.

    What would you tell a Russian woman who lost her brother in the war? What exactly does she gain?

    We know that the weapons company Raytheon profits from this war as they sent a letter to their shareholders stating that Putin’s invasion has boosted their profit margin.

    US defense companies profit while the people of Russia gain what exactly? What do they get? Land? They were already the world’s largest country and the in fact have abandoned cities in the East from the USSR. What is the White nationalist position for supporting the killing of Russian men?

  72. Tichy says:

    “Reward Russian aggression.” Damn, Ron invited the Lügenpresse to the site.

    • Replies: @eah
  73. You also haven’t explained how supporting Russia makes sense for a White nationalist…What is the White nationalist position for supporting the killing of Russian men?

    I am not a white nationalist! I have no idea what the white nationalist position is on this subject, or even if there is one.

    As for Victoria Nuland and the rest of the neoconservatives, their Jewish background is not directly relevant; it is the Zionist element which accounts for their desire for an active, aggressive US foreign policy. The policy of forward operations for the US military stems from their desire to protect Israel above every other prerogative, and whether or not it is the US interest, and whether it’s even possible to protect Israel in the long term from now 2 billion and before long 3 billion Muslims

    The meddlesome nature of neoconservatism means that US policy vis a vis Russia in Ukraine is essentially a Zionist policy, and therefore, a policy that is designed to benefit Israeli interests. There is a wide range of paranoid Jewish apocalyptic thinking regarding Russia and the War of Gog and Magog that motivates Jewish-Zionist plotters in this area. I am not familiar with all of it since I don’t believe that the wanderings of a Mesopotamian cattle herder in the Bronze Age give the Jews of the European diaspora clear title to Palestinian Arab real estate; nor do I think the “visions” of a Jew during the Babylonian exile have any bearing on 21st century politics except insofar as these warblings are taken seriously by nuclear armed religious fundamentalists.

    What is directly relevant about the a Jewish background of Nuland et alia is that the Jews are a traumatized people. They have a collective PTSD. What motivates them is various, but the psyche that is motivated is collectively unbalanced.

    You focus on irrelevant details of the Maidan. You focus on trees but ignore the forest. This is the forest: The fact that the US is knee deep in Ukraine and the Maidan is the scandal. Why are we there? A sprawling, megalomaniacal foreign policy administered by psychologically unbalanced American Zionist Jews.

    When US foreign policy was administered by cooler heads, we were not so expansively deployed on a messianic and very Jewish mad quest for…. what exactly? It’s confusing, isn’t it? Because it seems that the principal goal of these neoconservatives is to draw ever more attention to themselves and their Israel without a clear or realistic statement of the US foreign policy interests advanced by their self-aggrandizement. Goodbye! Mazel tov! I won’t be responding again.

    • Replies: @John1357642
  74. As an ‘alpha’ Sabbat Goy and enthusiastic licker of children’s brains from Satan-yahoo’s jackboots, I say, ‘Good riddance’. Nothing else matters more than one’s attitude towards the ultimate Evil of Zionazism.

  75. anon[845] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pythas

    celebrate the defeat of toddler – killer’s dick suckimg leader . He might be a good christo like Trump. But screw him . Burn the Israel worshipping bastards .

  76. @Tigerlily

    Xi knew that the PRC had been attacked by the USA using bio-weapons, so China acted with extreme caution. Note, too that they did not inject their people with the nucleoside modified mRNA gee shots, but with attenuated virus vaccines instead. And SARS CoV2 is NO ‘fraud’ as you will eventually discover when you become infertile or your immune function collapses.

  77. @Gerbils

    Only a brain-dead, racist, moron, dropped on its head too often by a capricious mother could say that the Chinese Revolution, centuries in the making and led by a cadre of brilliant individuals led by the greatest figure of the last one hundred plus years, Mao Ze-dong, was the work of Jews. I suspect that you must be a Jew, big-noting your tribe as ever.

  78. @Hail

    Greg Johnson is not an ordinary journalist, that is not his intention. He is a white nationalist, everything he writes, he writes from that perspective. It is his ambition to be the ideologue of White Nationalism. As such he delivers stellar work.

    • Agree: Hail
    • Thanks: Greg Johnson
  79. @mulga mumblebrain

    Oh please stop praising destructive monster Mao Zedong. Chinese leaders such as Xi Jinping show true greatness.

  80. I don’t think Orban being friendly with Netanyahu was a big factor in the election. East Europeans are mostly pro-Israel or indifferent to what goes on in Palestine and the Middle East. Anyway, what has the EU ever done for the Palestinians? The EU is strongly pro-Israel no matter what some governments say or pretend to do.

  81. Russian imperialism is obviously not dead…it seems the height of perversity for Hungarian nationalists to parrot all the pro-Russian propaganda tropes on the Ukraine War: NATO encroachment, “poke the bear,” the “Maidan coup,” etc…let’s reward Russian aggression.

    What Russian imperialism? What Russian aggression?

  82. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Mao is the reason Xi even exists, genius.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  83. PNIN says:
    @zil

    He also was pro-vax during the plandemic and wanted to coerce people to take it, just like the rest of the corrupt politicians so I have no sympathy for him.

  84. @6502Assembly

    The gay johnson couple greg and john are just mad that Putin refuses to celebrate sodomy. That’s why you hear logically incoherent shit like blaming Russia for a protacted conflict. Without the entire epstein class west sending billions to ukraine, the war would’ve ended long time ago. Ukraine is a failed srate who can’t even afford to pay their bureaucrats and soldiers. Western interference prolongs the war.

    He claims to be a white nationalist but he thinks it is a good idea for ukraine to aspire to join EU which is antiwhite as fuck, make it make sense. It’s extremely clear that the west is controlled by zionists so all these pro-west (nafo) commentators are literally all zionist stooges.

    Ukraine spokeperson was literally a transgender, Cirillo, if that isn’t giveaway that the regime is owned by the satanic cabal idk what is. This will never happen in a normal country like Russia.

    • Replies: @6502Assembly
  85. @Franklin Ryckaert

    China was literally a shithole before Xi took power. It was an extremely corrupt poverty ridden shithole. Objectively speaking Xi is the greatest leader the chinese ever had.

    I’ve been there before and after Xi, it’s absolutely insane how much a country can improve if they can get a leader who actually give a fuck about its citizens. The hard part is finding someone with the moral character. According to CIA and epstein, Xi is incorruptible because he doesn’t like money or women. Additionally he has the courage to go after high level corruption, even if it implicates his close loyalists (like zhang youxia). This is basically unheard behavior in modern history in all countries.

    I would like to plan to retire there, but unfortunately he is old already but i’m quite young, so it’s unclear if the next chinese emperor is great or not. Just like in history of the empire, the issue with an authoritarian system is that it is wholly dependent on whether they luck out on a good emperor or get screwed if they get a bad one. Chinese success was never due to a system, they always rise and fall depending on whether they managed to get an englightened emperor to lead them or not. Laws are useless if it’s not enforced and the hardest thing to enforce is always enforcing laws against the elites, billionaires, politicians, army generals, and the government itself. Only Xi managed to do this in recent history.

    • Replies: @NobodyImportant
  86. @6502Assembly

    my agreement stands with most of your comment (#54) with one reservation. when you speak of legal protection for sodomite perverts, do you mean they deserve protection so they could continue in their immoral activities? they will bring down the wrath of God on themselves and on everyone who tolerates their evil deeds. they have a right to repent and turn back from their path. even if they somehow escape retribution in this life, what about eternity?

    Mark 8
    36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
    37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

    • Troll: NobodyImportant
  87. Meet your favourite anti-Semites:

    https://www.rt.com/news/638549-israel-list-top-antisemite-influencers/

    Welp, Andrew Anglin is not among them.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  88. eah says:
    @Tichy

    Obviously there is ‘Russian aggression’ against Ukraine: the armed forces of the Russian Federation are attacking Ukraine, intending to drive the AFU out of Ukrainian territory annexed by Russia at the start of the SMO.

    It’s pointless to deny all that.

    Johnson just as obviously has a pro-Ukraine view of this conflict — for what it may be worth, here I’ll mention that his view fully aligns with that of the anti-white elite of virtually the entire West, the very people, as a principal of a website dedicated to ‘promoting white identity politics’, against whom he is involved in an existential struggle — he seems to criticize the position Orban took on the conflict, even though Orban, as an EU leader, stood out for his pro-white/-European policies, e.g. on migration.

    Anyway, I personally find his takes on the Ukraine conflict infantile, as I tried to point out in comments under another Johnson article.

    Your moniker reminds me of the popular German alternative media outlet Tichy’s Einblick (Roland Tichy).

  89. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    As a reaction to his destructiveness. Compare modern China’s meteoric social, economic, and infrastructural development with the Great Helmsman’s catastrophic “great leap forward” and “cultural revolution”.

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
  90. @eah

    Coverage of the conflict in Ukraine is funny because the narrative operates in two directions:

    – usually in Western media Ukraine is portrayed as winning, to forestall criticism of what is more or less a classic stalemate that holds no dividends for the West at all beyond “muh democracy” [or “sovereignty” in Greg Johnson-speak]

    – in Eastern media Russia is portrayed as winning, to keep the people of neighboring countries afraid of the specter of “Russian aggression” which is ever just about to attack, no less than Iran was “about to achieve a nuclear weapon” for over thirty years

    So, according to the same people, or at least the same class of people – donations obviously going one way: west to east – both Ukraine and Russia are simultaneously winning and losing.

    In the same vein, Russia has dwindling resources and can’t hold on to a sliver of a kilometer in the face of the courageous[ly funded] Ukrainians, but is “going to attack Europe” at any moment, simultaneously.

    You can turn on Deutsche Welle at any time of the day and see “Russia’s influence in the region is in decline” and, at another time, “Local media is saturated with Russian trolls, leading to a rise in anti-Western propaganda”.

    No doublethink in any of this, naturally.

    So this is the house of mirrors which you step into when you “side with Ukraine”.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  91. Che Guava says:
    @John1357642

    I assume that you mean ‘know of’, not ‘know’, but who knows, perhaps you are in correspondence with Greenwald?

    In any case, I agree, though other exceptions must also exist.

  92. Che Guava says:
    @Commentator Mike

    … and Greta Thumbelina is. Wow! Demonstrates what they really care about. Thanks.

  93. Che Guava says:
    @eah

    No, Tichy is a ‘net-friend (until my phone lost nearly everything last year so I was unable to re-connect), his Tichy is the Ijon Tichy character in some of Stanislaus Lem’s space novels.

  94. @eah

    Imagine pretending to be “pro-white” but aligns with Soros and Rothschild in geopolitics. Even dumber are the goyim thinking johnson is pro-white. He’s about as pro-white as jewlensky who he supports.

    Btw criticism of israel is now illegal in ukraine. 8 years jail. Enjoy your “white” regime.

  95. @Tigerlily

    Finally someone who sees the light.

  96. @6502Assembly

    Me: Orban is the smartest politician in Europe.

    You: But Greg, you overlooked these politicians in . . . Asia.

  97. @John1357642

    You use language that is not really to my liking, but your main idea is not one that I disagree with. I view Russia as a country that is about 25-30 years into a recovery process from Soviet Communism, and what I hate about the trans-Atlantic attempt to “mess with” Russia is that it is an attempt to kick a country while it is still getting back up, reviving its cultural and religious traditions, jumpstarting its economy. Somewhere in one of Bannon’s speeches, he says that America is a revolutionary power, not an imperial power; and if we could learn to support other countries instead of blowing up their bridges, political systems, water desalination plants, and assassinating their governments, the US would be okay again.

  98. I did not know that Fidesz is the name of Orban’s political party

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidesz

    I also did not know that Orban is a zionist, or at least an Israel-friendly genocide-apologist. I had no idea.

  99. In reality Orban is not the saint you think he is, Hungary is landlocked, so get a port.

    Rocket science it is not, Hungary had EU funding & decades to save to pay Bosnia/Serbia for access to the sea along with a 100 yd strip of whatever border they were willing to part with, and the country had its own currency & could print as much as they liked to pay for it along with transit fees + respect which is a rock hard currency.

    Instead you paid a politician to wring his hands, pontificate & stay in a EU which hated Hungary. Eventually, there comes a time where the EU can bribe the fairer half to remove this block of free stuff they could have had if only they had sold mans remaining freedoms(ads are emotional TV programming, they know exactly who the 51% majority demographic is ), and its over.

    Just saying, if your problem is being landlocked, its get a port, not a demagogue whos solution is just to elect him to complain about Hungary’s EU victimhood to get elected, so stall for time by not solving the problem which was easily solved by making friends not enemies in former Yugoslavia.

    Yes he was a nice guy, an said the right things, but fell far short in doing the right things one of which was leaving the EU.

  100. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Skanky Franky, how brainwashed must you be to call the man who doubled China’s population, ended illiteracy, emancipated women for the first time in Chinese history, raised life expectancy from less than forty to nearly seventy, repaired the devastation of two centuries of foreign aggression and genocide and civil wars and created the industrial base from which the economy later grew to be the most productive in history, ‘destructive’? Rightwing psychopathology, brainwashing and racist hatred will do it, every time.

    • Agree: antiwar2024
    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  101. @mulga mumblebrain

    Search: crimes of Mao Zedong and who killed more: Hitler, Stalin or Mao? in “racist” Google for an answer.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  102. Pepe2000 says:

    For those that don’t understand, Bibi demanded Orban’s friendship. Orban can’t say no anymore than a shopkeeper can say no to the Mafia.

    Is there any country Jews aren’t trying to return to? They are the only people that need access to every nation with a national income above $10k/year.

  103. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Skanky Franky, your fear-driven racist brainwashed imbecility is text-book. Don’t worry sweetie-the Chinese will treat you Yankee serfs nicely. Far better than you deserve, actually.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  104. @Marshall Lentini

    DW is a sewer, full of GHASTLY Yankee drawling she-male feminazis. Germany, always the Nazi successor state that the USA intended, is fucked. Good riddance.

  105. @John1357642

    People like Xi still control what their people can and can’t do, and what kind of shit they are allowed to read or watch, so no I don’t want to live under their rule. Even though the U.S is currently crap now, it wasn’t always like that. I enjoyed life in the early 1990s, I didn’t notice the downfall of the West until like 2007 and after that it just became even worse. Xi won’t even allow certain video games, or movies in his country if he doesn’t agree with the content. I’ve always been against garbage leadership treating adults like coddled overprotected kids. Someone like that trying to tell me what I can and can’t watch or indulge in as entertainment because they believe its for my own good if they deny me that right isn’t a great leader but a dickhead trying his hardest to be like a controlling helicopter parent.

    Plus not everyone in China is happy with Xi and his leadership, that’s why you still have Chinese people leaving China rather than staying there. AND feminism exist in China too. I’m surprised a lot of men there didn’t end up homosexuals because of China’s retard policy and abortions that mostly targeted their females.

  106. @mulga mumblebrain

    FR is a Netherlander – don’t insult him by calling him a Yankee.

  107. @NobodyImportant

    Most Chinese leave China because (they think) they can make more money elsewhere. Few of them really care much about the kind of freedoms you seem to care about.

  108. @NobodyImportant

    You’re concerned about chinese video game freedom while living in a land where people get fired and cancelled for criticizing a damn country in the middle east. Ruled by globoho censors that ensure every video game is woke, gay, and does not offend feminists.

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