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>
> About porting to MaxOSX: firstly Scidb will be ported to Windoze, but not
> before the alpha version has been released. Because of some recent fixes in
> Tk
> library concerning MaxOSX it might be possible to port it also to Mac. But
> it
> takes some time until the alpha version will be released.

The latest Mac tk is better, but widget rendering, particularly button
sizes and behaviour
Is still more or less broken. Scidb uses so much tight, small widget packing, i
don't think an osx port is feasible,/doable IMHO.

>> CQL is a nice play of words on the well known  SQL (Structured Query
>> Language) and i like keeping it. But maybe renaming it will help
>> differentiate Gregor's implementation from the original ?
>
> The point is that Scidb's design will be quite different from current CQL
> 5.0,
> so I think that a different name like ChessQuery is required. It's a bit
> unluckily that the term CQL is already taken. And the term eCQL - used in my
>
> current documentation of ChessQuery - is not very satisfactory for me.


I like "SCQL'.... Scidb CQL.

Steve


>

On 10/29/2017 08:40 AM, Gregor Cramer wrote:
>> Maybe Gregor will port CQL to Scid vs PC one day ??
>
> Porting ChessQuery to Scid vs PC would be a very costly task, because Scidb's
> implementation is based on Bitboards, and Scid vs PC don't has a Bitboard. But
> it is possible to convert between CQL 3.1 and ChessQuery, because CQL 3.1 is a
> subset of ChessQuery (concerning the functionality). And Lionel has announced
> to release a CQL port (based on 3.1?) in Scid vs PC.

Porting CQL v5.1 to vspc.


-- Lionel

> To speak frankly: I only know this CQL-version from chess assistant and this
> standalone version for windows. I think chessbase did not come with a
> CQL-interface.
> 
> Do you know another chess database which has this feature (may be even
> running on OSX)?

I don't know another database application than ChessAssistant which provides  
CQL 3.1.

About porting to MaxOSX: firstly Scidb will be ported to Windoze, but not 
before the alpha version has been released. Because of some recent fixes in Tk 
library concerning MaxOSX it might be possible to port it also to Mac. But it 
takes some time until the alpha version will be released.

> CQL is a nice play of words on the well known  SQL (Structured Query
> Language) and i like keeping it. But maybe renaming it will help
> differentiate Gregor's implementation from the original ?

The point is that Scidb's design will be quite different from current CQL 5.0, 
so I think that a different name like ChessQuery is required. It's a bit 
unluckily that the term CQL is already taken. And the term eCQL - used in my 
current documentation of ChessQuery - is not very satisfactory for me.

> Maybe Gregor will port CQL to Scid vs PC one day ??

Porting ChessQuery to Scid vs PC would be a very costly task, because Scidb's 
implementation is based on Bitboards, and Scid vs PC don't has a Bitboard. But 
it is possible to convert between CQL 3.1 and ChessQuery, because CQL 3.1 is a 
subset of ChessQuery (concerning the functionality). And Lionel has announced 
to release a CQL port (based on 3.1?) in Scid vs PC.

Gregor

On 10/27/2017 07:43 PM, Steve A wrote:
> Maybe Gregor will port CQL to Scid vs PC one day ?? as I thought i heard
> him mention it once.

I'm in the process of porting Lewis Stiller's and Gady Costeff's CQL 
implementation to Scidvspc as a fully integrated search engine.  It's a 
fairly trivial port, thanks to S&C's decision to build the app around 
Scid's Game:: and Position:: infrastructure, and is about halfway 
complete at this point after a couple of part time weeks hacking at it. 
The standalone cql executable is presently fully functional and tested 
for correctness, having been compiled and built against Scid-native 
headers and Scid-native objects.  That was the hard part... the rest 
(integration with the tkscid exec and with a raw UI widget) is more or 
less a cake walk.  I hope to have a patch ready by Thanksgiving (if my 
cell phone will stop ringing), which I'll announce on the vspc list.


-- Lionel

Scidb may never be ported to OS X because of the Mac's poor TCL
implementaion, but Scid vs PC / Mac already has a command line interface
built-in.
Maybe Gregor will port CQL to Scid vs PC one day ?? as I thought i heard
him mention it once.

> BTW: I think that a different name like ChessQuery - instead of eCQL - is
better, so I'm planning to rename it.

CQL is a nice play of words on the well known  SQL (Structured Query
Language) and i like keeping it.
But maybe renaming it will help differentiate Gregor's implementation from
the original ?

Steven

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Thomas Porschberg <th...@ra...>
wrote:

> Hi Gregor,
>
> thank you. Where do I come from?
> How I told you, currently I use chess assistant with CQL.
> Now a friend with OSX asked me if I know a chess database with CQL
> capability for OSX.
> I don't know...
> To speak frankly: I only know this CQL-version from chess assistant and
> this standalone version
> for windows. I think chessbase did not come with a CQL-interface.
>
> Do you know another chess database which has this feature (may be even
> running on OSX)?
>
> Thomas
>
> > Gregor Cramer <re...@gm...> hat am 27. Oktober 2017 um 13:17
> geschrieben:
> >
> >
> > Hi Thomas,
> >
> > > I use CQL from chess assistant currently.
> > > However is there a command line interface for your CQL-implementation?
> > > I'm on linux and can compile it by myself.
> > >
> > > I also also did not found a button etc. in the GUI for usage of the
> > > CQL-position search. Where is it hidden?
> >
> > Currently only the documentation is available, it is not yet
> implemented, and
> > planned for a future version. But the current documentation is not
> > contemporary, a revised CQL version is in development, see
> > http://sourceforge.net/p/scidb/mailman/scidb-development/ . But some
> basic
> > parts - about 70% - of (old) CQL functions are already implemented, and
> will
> > also be usable for the revised CQL interface.
> >
> > BTW: I think that a different name like ChessQuery - instead of eCQL - is
> > better, so I'm planning to rename it.
> >
> > Gregor
> >
>
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Hi Gregor,

thank you. Where do I come from? 
How I told you, currently I use chess assistant with CQL. 
Now a friend with OSX asked me if I know a chess database with CQL capability for OSX.
I don't know... 
To speak frankly: I only know this CQL-version from chess assistant and this standalone version
for windows. I think chessbase did not come with a CQL-interface.

Do you know another chess database which has this feature (may be even running on OSX)?

Thomas

> Gregor Cramer <re...@gm...> hat am 27. Oktober 2017 um 13:17 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> Hi Thomas,
> 
> > I use CQL from chess assistant currently.
> > However is there a command line interface for your CQL-implementation?
> > I'm on linux and can compile it by myself.
> > 
> > I also also did not found a button etc. in the GUI for usage of the
> > CQL-position search. Where is it hidden?
> 
> Currently only the documentation is available, it is not yet implemented, and 
> planned for a future version. But the current documentation is not 
> contemporary, a revised CQL version is in development, see 
> http://sourceforge.net/p/scidb/mailman/scidb-development/ . But some basic 
> parts - about 70% - of (old) CQL functions are already implemented, and will 
> also be usable for the revised CQL interface.
> 
> BTW: I think that a different name like ChessQuery - instead of eCQL - is 
> better, so I'm planning to rename it.
> 
> Gregor
>

Hi Thomas,

> I use CQL from chess assistant currently.
> However is there a command line interface for your CQL-implementation?
> I'm on linux and can compile it by myself.
> 
> I also also did not found a button etc. in the GUI for usage of the
> CQL-position search. Where is it hidden?

Currently only the documentation is available, it is not yet implemented, and 
planned for a future version. But the current documentation is not 
contemporary, a revised CQL version is in development, see 
http://sourceforge.net/p/scidb/mailman/scidb-development/ . But some basic 
parts - about 70% - of (old) CQL functions are already implemented, and will 
also be usable for the revised CQL interface.

BTW: I think that a different name like ChessQuery - instead of eCQL - is 
better, so I'm planning to rename it.

Gregor

Hi,
I use CQL from chess assistant currently. 
However is there a command line interface for your CQL-implementation?
I'm on linux and can compile it by myself.

I also also did not found a button etc. in the GUI for usage of the
CQL-position search. Where is it hidden?

Thanks
Thomas

-- 
http://imkerei.randspringer.de

Hi,
I use CQL from chess assistant currently. 
However is there a command line interface for your CQL-implementation?
I'm on linux and can compile it by myself.

I also also did not found a button etc. in the GUI for usage of the
CQL-position search. Where is it hidden?

Thanks
Thomas
-- 
http://imkerei.randspringer.de