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Americas Hyper-Financialized Economic System Is No Match for China's Government-Directed Investment Model. Regrettably, China's Explosive Growth Is Pushing a Desperate Washington Closer to War.
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Ukraine is the first flashpoint in a great power struggle between the United States and China. After years of shifting its industries to low-wage locations around the world, the US finds itself steadliy losing market-share to a faster-growing and more resourceful China. By most estimates, China’s economy will overtake the United States by 2035 at which point, Beijing will be in a much better position to shape international trade relations in a way that promotes its own interests. With growth, comes power, and that rule will certainly apply to China as well. China has emerged as an industrial powerhouse that sits at the very epicenter of the most populous and fastest growing region in the world. It is for that reason that the United States has initiated a series of provocations on the island of Taiwan and in the South China Sea. The US has abandoned all hope of prevailing over China through conventional free market competition. Instead, the US plans to engage China militarily in a desperate attempt to drain its resources, garner broader support for economic sanctions and isolate isolate China from its regional trading partners. It is a risky and disruptive plan that could backfire spectacularly, but Washington is moving forward regardless. US foreign policy mandarins and their globalist allies will not accept an outcome in which China is the world’s biggest and most powerful economy. This is from an article at China Macro Economy:

Although the pace of China’s economic rise has slowed in recent years, it appears on track to end the United States’ lengthy run as the world’s largest economy by around 2035, according to the latest projection by economists at Goldman Sachs.

The new estimate is 10 years later than the investment bank had predicted in 2011. But economists Kevin Daly and Tadas Gedminas said that potential growth in China still remains significantly higher than in the US.

“China has already closed most of the gap with US GDP,” they said in a report published on Tuesday, adding that China’s gross domestic product has risen from 12 per cent of the US’ in 2000 to a little under 80 per cent.

China’s annual economic growth will be around 4 per cent from 2024 to 2029, compared with 1.9 per cent in the US, according to the report, which projects what the global economy will look like through 2075….

The US dollar’s exceptional strength over the past 10 years is another reason for the 10-year revision in when China’s economy will become No 1, Daly added… But the US dollar’s strength versus the Chinese yuan is likely to diminish over the coming decade, providing more ground for China to overtake the US, according to the report.

The report also projected that the weight of global GDP will shift more towards Asia over the next 30 years, and that the world’s five largest economies in 2050 will be China, the United States, India, Indonesia and Germany.” (“China GDP to surpass US around 2035, years later than previously expected, Goldman Sachs predicts”, China Macro Economy)

Naturally, the financialization of the US economy has greatly impacted America’s prospects for the future. The rise of Wall Street has led to a myriad of debt-leveraging scams that have enriched a handfull of wealthy bankers while diverting trillions in capital to unproductive activities. At the same time, the absence of any coherent industrial policy has triggered the flight of tens of thousands of businesses and factories that relocated to countries that offer an endless supply of low-wage labor. The problem, of course, is that mounting policy errors eventually lead to a drop-off in productivity which allows other, more ambitious countries to fill the void. In short, the Chinese Miracle is largely attributable to financialization and the short-sighted policies that allowed US corporations to move their industries elsewhere rather than provide incentives for them to stay in America. Bottom line: China’s economy is overtaking the US and there is nothing short of nuclear war that can reverse that situation.

In recent weeks, there has been a steady uptick in negative coverage of China in the media along with the predictable attacks on President Xi Jinping. Americans have seen this show many times before and should have a clear understanding of what it means. The demonization of foreign leaders is always the first step towards war. The media led the charge against Saddam, Qaddafi, Milosevic, Putin and countless others. Now China’s Jinping is in the imperial crosshairs. The names change, but the process remains the same. Already, the provocations, sanctions and slanders have begun to pile-up even while brainwashed Americans are led by-the-nose to another bloody conflict.

If there is a war between the two countries, the economic fallout is likely to be catastrophic. Consider, for a minute, how many American and European companies would be severely impacted by a US-China conflict. Here’s an excerpt from an article at Registration China:

By the end of 2020, a total of 1,040,480 foreign companies were registered in Mainland China, the Official data was provided by the Ministry of Commerce (MOFCOM)…. According to the official data, China had established a total of 961,000 Foreign-Invested Enterprises (FIE) until the end of 2018, with the actual use of foreign capital of US $2.1 trillion…. The results show that the number of foreign-invested enterprises is keep on increasing in 2021… (“How many Foreign Companies in China?”, GWBMA

1 million foreign-owned companies in China? That is simply astonishing.

And how do these companies generate their profits?

They generate profits by selling their products to the people back home. Check out this excerpt from an older article at NBC News which explains how it works:

“If the United States does decide to impose tariffs on China, Chen said, American companies operating in China, which account for more than 60 percent of China’s exports to the United States, would surely be hurt the most. ‘In the end,’ Chen said, ‘America is the one that needs to adjust.’

“While some analysts have predicted that China would soon start to let the yuan appreciate, Chen’s interview illustrated the fact that there is a strong lobby in China opposing revaluation. One reason why a revaluation would be dangerous for China, Chen said, is that profit margins for Chinese exporters are tiny — ranging from 1.7 to two percentage points.” (“China’s commerce minister: U.S. has the most to lose in a trade war” NBC News)

“American companies… account for more than 60 percent of China’s exports to the United States”? Is that possible? In other words, US companies that moved to their businesses to China are making money off many of the same people they laid off in order to generate bigger profits.

And, at the same time, the profits for the host-nation (China) are a measly 1.7 percent; hardly enough to make it worth their while. The multinationals are making the windfall, not China. So why is China blamed for America’s shrinking share of global output? As Carolyn Bartholomew said in The American Prospect some years ago:

“China policy has, over the past two decades, been driven by the interests of the multinational corporations, and those global firms have benefited from many of China’s policies. Starting several decades ago, it was a handful of the exporting elite — Boeing, Motorola, and GE among them — who argued persuasively to the Bush, Clinton, and Bush administrations that U.S. economic interests would be served if only these companies had access to the Chinese consumer…… Today, of course, we see the result of that sort of thinking. With the global economic crisis, American workers have ended up without jobs and without pension funds.

“….At the behest of U.S. based multinationals, Washington has championed the causes of corporate interests masquerading as free trade.” (“The Great Industrial Wall of China”, Carolyn Bartholomew, The American Prospect)

So, the question is: Aren’t we blaming China for policies that were pushed through by powerful corporations and their plutocrat bosses?

It certainly looks that way. And, if that is the case, then we can assume that Washington’s drive to war is not fueled by anxiety over which country’s economy will be bigger than the others, but by the Chinese government’s resistence to the political meddling and machinations of foreign oligarchs. That’s what’s really going on. Billionaire elites want to insinuate themselves into the political apparatus just like they have nations across the west, but the Communist government won’t allow it. Take a look at this excerpt from an article that author Ron Unz wrote more than ten years ago:

The rise of China surely ranks among the most important world developments of the last 100 years…. and the Chinese economy poised to surpass our own before the end of this decade...

During the three decades to 2010, China achieved perhaps the most rapid sustained rate of economic development in the history of the human species, with its real economy growing almost 40-fold between 1978 and 2010. In 1978, America’s economy was 15 times larger, but according to most international estimates, China is now set to surpass America’s total economic output within just another few years….

Furthermore, the vast majority of China’s newly created economic wealth has flowed to ordinary Chinese workers, who have moved from oxen and bicycles to the verge of automobiles in just a single generation. While median American incomes have been stagnant for almost forty years, those in China have nearly doubled every decade, with the real wages of workers outside the farm-sector rising about 150 percent over the last ten years alone....

A World Bank report recently highlighted the huge drop in global poverty rates from 1980 to 2008, but critics noted that over 100 percent of that decline came from China alone: the number of Chinese living in dire poverty fell by a remarkable 662 million, while the impoverished population in the rest of the world actually rose by 13 million. ..

Over the last decade alone, China quadrupled its industrial output, which is now comparable to that of the U.S…

Against the backdrop of remarkable Chinese progress, America mostly presents a very gloomy picture. …Over the last 40 years, a large majority of American workers have seen their real incomes stagnate or decline. ...

Decay of Constitutional Democracy

The central theme of Why Nations Fail is that political institutions and the behavior of ruling elites largely determine the economic success or failure of countries. If most Americans have experienced virtually no economic gains for decades, perhaps we should cast our gaze at these factors in our own society….

Our Extractive Elites

When parasitic elites govern a society along “extractive” lines, a central feature is the massive upward flow of extracted wealth, regardless of any contrary laws or regulations. Certainly America has experienced an enormous growth of officially tolerated corruption as our political system has increasingly consolidated into a one-party state controlled by a unified media-plutocracy….

A society’s media and academic organs constitute the sensory apparatus and central nervous system of its body politic, and if the information these provide is seriously misleading, looming dangers may fester and grow. A media and academy that are highly corrupt or dishonest constitute a deadly national peril…. America’s own societal information system is vastly more skilled and experienced in shaping reality to meet the needs of business and government leaders, and this very success does tremendous damage to our country….

… we must admit that Richard Lynn, a prominent British scholar, has been correct in predicting for a decade or longer that the global dominance of the European-derived peoples is rapidly drawing to its end and within the foreseeable future the torch of human progress and world leadership will inevitably pass into Chinese hands.” (“China’s Rise, America’s Fall; Which superpower is more threatened by its “extractive elites”?, Ron Unz, The American Conservative

Prescient words, indeed, but not entirely unexpected given the deep polarization and political dysfunction in the western democracies. If similar divisions exist in China, they certainly aren’t apparent to the outsider. What an objective critic sees is a long-repressed country whose explosive energy has been skillfully harnassed by a ruling body that has raised nearly 800 million people out of poverty (an unprecedented and historic achievement) while– at the same time– creating a socially-unifying goal (The Belt and Road Initiative) that serves as the shared vision for the future.

The Biden administration is commited to containing China in a bid to maintain its predominance in the global order. But Washington has no grand multi trillion-dollar infrastructure plan that would serve as a substitute for China’s Belt and Road project. In fact, Washington has no vision for the future at all. What Washington offers is another century of sanctions, regime change and war. It would be far better for the world if China was allowed to move ahead with its massive global-integration project without the threat of US intervention, meddling or violence. Unfortunately, the Biden team has other things in mind.

 
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  1. Using PPP – the only basis that makes any economic sense, China over took US in 2016.
    Of course even PPP understates the level of financialisation of the US Economy and Chinas’ actual ability to produce real products. Think about producing shells for example! Or railways.

    And the writing was on the wall 10 years earlier.
    One really has to wonder who was paying for all that anti-Russia stuff going on since 2008. China I guess, it worked out really well for them and they are far too far away now for US to catch up.

    • Agree: Ray Caruso, JR Foley
    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Richard B
  2. bob sykes says:

    Ignoring the financial and service sectors, which redistribute, but do not create wealth, China’s real economy (manufacturing, ores, metals, electricity…) is 50% larger than the US’ right now. The Russian real economy is 68% of US’. Together their real economies are twice as large as the US’.

    For details see,

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1549554660184231936.html

    • Agree: Realist, boynkin
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Franz
    , @Ray Caruso
  3. Folkvangr says:

    Mike, did you record this video during your last visit to Moscow?

    https://tsn.ua/ru/tsikavinki/lyubitel-restoranov-i-zhenschin-putinskiy-general-obnazhilsya-na-kameru-i-stanceval-striptiz-video-2274244.html

    In the video, General Matovnikov dances naked in front of the camera, showing intimate parts of his body. General Matovnikov is the commander of the operational group of Russian occupiers on the territory of Belarus.

  4. Chris Moore says: • Website

    These Marxist-Zionist sociopaths running the Anglosphere are so psychotic, megalomaniac, controlling, messianically delusional and freakishly murderous, I can only hope China starts funding the Christian resistance within US Empire. Christendom took down the satanic Roman Empire, and it will take down this freak show if it could only get ZOG’s jackboot off its neck.

  5. anonymous[296] • Disclaimer says:

    so many shithead americans who cheered on every new war, bragged about every new CIA coup, praised their jew masters for every shooting of a 1o year old Palestinian child or pregnant Palestinian mother, who bent over and grabbed the ankles for psychotic uncle schmuel, must be feeling a little troubled right about now. So much jingoism and chauvinism, about to be replaced by cowardice and fear. May the United States reap the bitter harvest it sowed.

  6. anonymous[296] • Disclaimer says:

    The jew parasite sucked the marrow out of American society. But ((Quartermaster)) and ((Meanjewjew)) tell us how wonderful apartheid israel is. Jews take and take and take. Americans, driven by slothful cowardice, bent over and let themselves be rectally plundered by a psychotic tribe of misfits and sociopathic thieves. Now go get your shoeshine box, goy, because your salad days are over!

    • Agree: Zarathustra, ld
    • Thanks: JR Foley
  7. Anon[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @bob sykes

    The financial and servicd sectors create wealth. Why do you think states like Rhode Island have a higher GDP per capita than China?

    Industrial economies are wasteful. Factories and equipment are expensive to build and commodity prices keep declining.

  8. Toxik says:

    move over Uncle Sam, everyone’s tired of you.

  9. @anonymous

    It is by no means just the pharisitical Jew in the US that needs uprooting — it is found throughout the west, and it dominates Spain as much as it does Poland.

    • Replies: @Justrambling
  10. @Anon

    This is “wealth” for the Pharisee such as you, not for a creature of God.

    • Replies: @Anon
  11. Notsofast says:

    china’s real crime was creating an economy that improved the living conditions of the workers, if that is allowed to continue unabated, western workers might wonder why their living conditions are on an opposite trajectory. so a war must be fought to destroy their economy and insure hated of the chinese people, same for russia.

  12. Do you think anyone is going to believe that China hasn’t initiated war?

    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
    , @meena
  13. The Taiwanese are watching American proxy Ukraine being slowly destroyed. They realize they will be next should they follow America’s lead and act tough with China. They are likely to improve relations and more formally join China, their largest trading partner. Better red than dead.

  14. Charles says:

    China encompasses dozens of ethnicities, though the Han are by far the most numerous and many others are statistically insignificant. China’s population is not a mass of identical people. Nevertheless, China has not spent decades inviting in and being invaded by racial groups who are necessarily their biological enemies. The USA has done and is doing exactly that. Of course the Chinese are winning.

  15. Folkvangr says:
    @Notsofast

    How was your caterpillar/termite/cricket/mosquito steak last night, NotSoFast-San?

    • Replies: @Notsofast
    , @A B Coreopsis
  16. I wonder if China will make a push to gather up German industry. The US destroyed the Nordstream pipeline crushing the German economy.

    Will China help them pick up the pieces?

  17. Never in history have there been more bankers, heads of corporations and politicians in the western world whose actions make them more deserving of the hangman’s noose. There have always been traitors, con men, and crooked politicians, but never have there been so many that were willing to sell out their people, tribe and nation for a few bucks, a sex act or a pat on the head from Klaus Schwab. The orders for good Chinese nylon rope need to go out soon before they run out due to supply chain problems.

    • Agree: JWalters, JR Foley
  18. @Charles

    China’s majority are Hans, America’s majority are Hams.

    • LOL: Robert Bruce
  19. @Anon

    It all depends on how you define “creating wealth”, China does it the traditional way, by creating value added products (the way the US used to), now under Uncle Schmuel’s direction, Americans take a crap, roll it up in their hands and throw it at the wall, believing they’re creating something of value.

    • Agree: Brad Anbro
    • LOL: JM
    • Replies: @JM
  20. Notsofast says:
    @Folkvangr

    porkbanger, you’re muttering incoherently, have you been huffing gas again? everytime you do that you lose a few more brain cells and you don’t have any to spare.

    • Replies: @Folkvangr
  21. Instead of spending trillions on the military, most of which doesn’t promote US competitiveness except in arms sales, if that investment went into US infrastructure and education and health care and small business, we might have a chance to rebuild our economy in order to compete on many levels. The current mode creates dystopia at home and violence abroad, which is why we’re losing.

  22. Folkvangr says:
    @Notsofast

    You are in good company here, NSF, but you are the absolute best!


    Video Link

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  23. @Si1ver1ock

    Would you give the beggar a dollar note, if his only reaction is to pick up a piece of excrement and hurl it at you, angrily complaining that you didn’t give him a hundred bucks? Europe needs to wallow in misery a few decades before it grows a little humility and sense of reality.

    • Agree: Deep Thought
    • Replies: @Ruckus
  24. Wokechoke says:
    @Folkvangr

    The verses of the song are very woke before woke. Keith Allen’s daughter is classic white girl sucking up to schlomo in every breath she takes.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Folkvangr
  25. How much of US GDP is real and how much is (((Wall Street)))? Whatever the ratio of real to other is, it’s certainly lower than China’s.

    • Replies: @Brian Damage
    , @Anonymous
  26. IronForge says:

    Thanks to RUS and CHN, the Masonic-Zionist Plutarchy+VassalOligarchs failed to conquer and implement their Plunder/Parasite/Rentier System throughout the World.

    CHN’s Economy rcvd a massive boost through inexpensive, Sanctions evading RUS and IRN Hydrocarbons – being settled in CN¥, ₽UB, and Barter.

    IRQ just joined in to settle their CHN Shipments in CN¥.

    It’s a different angle than what the Author is trying to discuss; but RUS and IRN’s Hydrocarbon Industries are mostly State Owned or Vested

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  27. anonymous[103] • Disclaimer says:

    China is buying around 250,000 barrels a day of oil from Iran. It could buy 1,000,000 barrels a day. That would enhance Iran a lot and make the war with Israel and the US a lot worse. I think the Middle East is the next big proxy war.

  28. The US to destroy Huawei.



    Video Link

  29. Goldman-Sachs’ projections are garbage because being (((who))) they are, they refuse to acknowledge the larger reality, which is that the US, largely because of its control by their coreligionists, is headed for a collapse. That’s due to several realities, each one of which by itself capable of causing society to effectively stop functioning. The first is the fact that the US—in part to promote “equity” and in part out of sheer malice by those in charge—no longer educates its children but indoctrinates them with ideologies that are much worse than merely worthless. The second is the refusal or inability by the governing elite to build modern infrastructure or even properly maintain the existing infrastructure; this is exemplified by California’s laughable failure to build a high-speed rail line between L.A. and San Francisco. The third is the country’s ongoing deindustrialization, which means the US is now incapable of supplying itself with goods ranging from smartphones to aspirin. The fourth is the determination by the elite to replace fossil fuels and nuclear powers with “renewables”, which are costly, unreliable, environmentally damaging, and dependent on technology and materials from China, to which that same nihilistic elite displays ever-growing hostility.

    In addition to those factors, there are other, less certain ones, that are equally capable of destroying the US as both a society and a polity. The first would be a nuclear exchange with China and/or Russia. The second would be a civil war within the US. And a third would be an effective prohibition by the elite, on the grounds of abating imaginary “climate change”, on productive agricultural activities, a trial run for which is already under way in the Netherlands.

    All considered, there is essentially no chance the US will exist as a cohesive polity several decades from now, let alone as one of the world’s leading economies.

    • Replies: @TheTrumanShow
  30. Anon[176] • Disclaimer says:
    @A B Coreopsis

    I am not sure that the wealth of “Godly” creatures is tied to material objects.

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
  31. We need to wrest control from these destructive Zionist oligarchs. We need to do what Putin did and is working well for Russia. We need to stop and forbid them from corrupting our systems of government or else we jail them and claw back all their illegally acquired wealth.
    Then let’s accept China’s invitation to join the Belt and Road initiative, rebuild our country’s institutions, education, industry, health and compete through fair trade and respect for other nations right to join our prosperity.
    Imagine what freeing every year, $700 billion from a one Trillion Dollar military budget, would do to reduce our national debt and solve our country’s problems. Maybe we can even transform the IMC to switch from a death cult to a life and prosperity cooperative for the whole planet. Prosperity for all is the best guarantee against wars. Everyone can buy into that ideal, not the oligarchs who. through their stupidity, think a few should own everything and rule the many.

    • Agree: irish Savant
    • Thanks: JWalters
  32. @Tallest Skil

    Please list just a few of the wars China has initiated, Tallest Troll.

    • Replies: @Tallest Skil
  33. Zane says:

    Beware of extrapolating present macro trends into the future. China is heading for a hard landing.

    China is the proverbial bug in search of a windshield. China is Japan 1989.

    Kaboom!

  34. Franz says:
    @bob sykes

    China’s real economy … is 50% larger than the US’ right now. The Russian real economy is 68% of US’.

    Thank you.

    And many of us in US industry warned, threatened and cajoled these Wall Street fools not to go down the road they were on. But oh man. Everytime a major US industry rolled up and moved on to China the stock market went batshit. The rich got richer. The Reaganites were happy. All was well in their inverted, perverted corner of the economic world.

    Now the bill is due. Who pays?

    Any doubt poor Americans will be forced to pay for the damages inflicted over the last fifty years on the country? Will pay for the policies that enriched 1 or 2 percent of the pigs who sold us out?

    I hope no one mentions “succession” as if part of the American pig pen is better than other. Time to end the whole nation-state idea and just redistribute the land and start over.

    • Agree: GMC, Zarathustra
  35. Who in their right mind calls Xi Jinping, Jinping? The Chinese economy surpassed the USA in PPP terms in 2014. The US ‘economy’ is heavily financialised as well. China is the leading trade partner with most of the world. China now produces the greatest number of patents and scientific papers of all countries. But, most of all, China does not roam the world seeking victims to destroy, which proves which side represents Good and which Evil.

    • Replies: @Avery
  36. @norecovery

    China’s military expenditure is one quarter that of the USA, one sixteenth per capita. Yet our toad of a ‘Defence’ Minister, was hate and fear-mongering the other day, by declaring China’s military expenditure growth as ‘…the greatest since WW2’. On Earth.
    While the USA’s psychopathic aggression and blood-lust is horrific enough, the hideous camp following of junior stooges like Austfailia, which China has NEVER harmed in any way, but gifted us fifty billion a year in trade surpluses, and the good-will of over one million tourists per year, and tens of thousands of students, is simply despicable. And to psych ourselves up for our national Nutterdamerung, the MSM sewer produces scores of hideous racist hate rants every week. Treacherous does not do us justice.

    • Agree: Ann Nonny Mouse
    • Thanks: Joe Levantine
  37. Hoyeru23 says:

    In fact, anti-China articles began appearing in the early 2000s. They weren’t directly anti-Chinese, they just kept on describing China as a very weird and different place than the West, underscoring how different both societies were, as if they weren’t compatible, see?
    (NOBODY was yet constantly mentioning how China’s government was Communist as they do it now, in every single article. This fact dawned on Americans about 2 years ago it seems. Somehow they had forgotten it for 40 years while it was useful for them to use China’s as cheap labor.)
    The level anti-China hatred of the articles became worse over the mid 2010, with numerous threads appearing on 4 chan, showing how savage and un-civilised the Chinese are, by putting numerous photos of Chinese eating dogs or cats or various other “weird things” those Chinks were doing. The pshy Op was on! During Covid, there were threads with photos claiming the Chinese were simply throwing their pets from balconies. And so on. The pet-loving AMericas were of coruse outraged and disgusted! (But Americans always would care more for homeless dog/cat than for a homeless American! SO HUMANE, INDEED!)

    as for China’s economy, it passed USA’s years ago as some other commentators have noted.
    And since this is UNZ, I guess I MUST say something anti-Khazarians (as it is almost a requirement). The Khazarians will have a hard time infiltrating China the way they did USA and Europe. They don’t look like Chinese, haha. Major problem for them.

    If USa think they can bully China the way they bullied and harassed Putin the Pussy for over 20 years and dont get a response, they are barking up the wrong tree. The Chinese don’t seem to suffer from the Inferiority Complex the Russians suffer from, and I think the Chinese won’t hesitate and will respond fully if attacked and harassed unlike Putin the Pussy who seem to be suffering from permanent brain freeze and can’ commit to act decisively cuz I think he still expects for the West to somehow forgive him and invite him to the Big boy’s table or someping.

    • Replies: @RJ Macready
  38. @Zane

    Imagine an insect calling others a ‘bug’. You racists have been predicting China’s ‘fall’ for forty years. Stiff shit, boof-head.

    • Agree: JR Foley
    • Replies: @Zane
  39. Miro23 says:
    @norecovery

    Instead of spending trillions on the military, most of which doesn’t promote US competitiveness except in arms sales, if that investment went into US infrastructure and education and health care and small business, we might have a chance to rebuild our economy in order to compete on many levels.

    The problem here, is that the mafia running the US would need to stop being the mafia.

    They’re not going to do that. The game has been too profitable for them over the last 50 years. For example, US wealth inequality (Gini coefficient) has now reached Third World type levels (US = 41,4 , Haiti = 41,1).

    That’s not to say that they can’t be forced out. Their power to threaten and bribe is in decline so their international political clients could change sides. Candidates would be some European states or Taiwan, Japan and South Korea.

    • Replies: @Realist
  40. @bob sykes

    Something similar is true in regard to Brazil. Officially, the US economy is several times larger than Brazil’s, but Brazil’s real economy is about half the size of that of the US while the population is two thirds the size. There was a time, namely from the end of World War II until about the 1990s, when the US truly stood head and shoulders above the rest of the world. Not anymore.

    • Thanks: Malla
    • Replies: @showmethereal
  41. JM says:
    @Joe Paluka

    Come on! They’re only creating something of value if people pay to watch the shit throwing spectacle.

    The trouble with America is that there was so much outsourcing of manufacturing that it created a struggle to glean value within its economy. Hence the speculation and endless and unnecessary “services”. The Tertiary sector (not all of it) harbours far more uselessness than either the Primary or Secondary sectors and in the US, it has grown way out of proportion to the rest. The only hope is to gradually turn this around by disincentivizing most outsourcing and incentivising the Secondary and some of the Tertiary sectors at home. Most of the squeals will come from the American shareholders of outsourced industries.

  42. @Si1ver1ock

    China (and other countries not committed to deindustrialization in the of “the environment”) should offer soon-to-be unemployed German engineers generous multi-year contracts in order to absorb their expertise before it goes to waste.

    • Agree: brostoevsky
    • Replies: @Deep Thought
    , @ld
  43. GMC says:

    China is totally run like a swiss clock compared to the USA. Every Federal, State and Muni Agency including the Federal Reserve, Wall Street and the too Big to Fail Banks – all rely on Cooked books, massive theft, lies, bought off laws to enrich and cover up corruption and the list goes on and on and on.

    Now, let’s talk about the Privatization of America : 80+% of the natural resources like gaz, oil, coal, mineral extractions, water { fresh or sea], wildlife, farmlands, etc. have all been for sale or managed by idiots, whereas any intelligent country keeps these strictly nationalized for the good of the nation , not to enrich the corporations and carpetbaggers from other countries. Even the “Public lands” which are suppose to belong to the citizens have been taken over by the para military strong arms of the USG.

    All the infrastructure owned by the Federal State, Muni governments and the privatized ones are in dire need of repairs and a normal yearly maintenance schedule, but the military and foreign aid needs more money so that is put on indefinite Hold.

    China, Russia and the ones that are going to follow in their footsteps are way ahead of the United States because there is so much wrong in America – it will take a Miracle to save it.

    • Agree: JR Foley
  44. “ China has emerged as an industrial powerhouse that sits at the very epicenter of the most populous and fastest growing region in the world.”

    Two clarifications:

    1) The GDP of the Anglo-Zionist Empire is far larger than the GDP real or imagined within the borders of the former US republic.

    2) China is at the epicentre of the coming demographic winter.

    …and wasn’t China the aggressor in its 1979 war with Vietnam post US defeat?

    • Replies: @Hulkamania
  45. meamjojo says:

    “By most estimates, China’s economy will overtake the United States by 2035 at which point, Beijing will be in a much better position to shape international trade relations in a way that promotes its own interests. With growth, comes power, and that rule will certainly apply to China as well.”

    Perhaps not if we stop rampant Chinese IP theft and restrict their access to the latest computer chips.

    Right now, their AI research is falling behind because they can no longer get the computer chips we were previously allowing them to buy.

    “There is more than one way to skin a cat” (old Chinese proverb).

    • Replies: @Hulkamania
    , @Decoy
  46. Jim H says:

    ‘America’s Hyper-Financialized Economic System Is No Match for China’s Government-Directed Investment Model. ‘ — Mike Whitney

    We were told the same thing in the 1930s — that the Soviet Union’s planned economy inevitably would outpace disorderly capitalism, with its winners and losers.

    Sixty years later, the Soviet Union was gone.

    ‘Government-directed investment’ usually results in value subtraction. China’s bloated property sector is one of many examples.

    Governments lack appropriate incentives and discipline for successful investment. This is true of China, as well as the US with its ridiculous Inflation Protection Act and CHIPS Act. Might as well just flush those dollars down the toilet.

    • Disagree: Hulkamania
    • Replies: @MLK
    , @Truth Vigilante
  47. @Hoyeru23

    Man, I agree with all you say but what about Covid? The world knows, the Chinese acknowledged that it started in China. That destroyed Chinas reputation, never to recovery, only adding fuel to the Chinese eat dogs and bats bullshit.

    Again- I agree with you totally. Napoleon said hundreds of years ago China is a sleeping giant. And boy am I glad the bastard jew, the main reason the world, not just America is in so much pain and turmoil won’t get their ugly paws on China and the reason they’re so insistent on destroying China…….but the fact is Covid destroyed China’s aura.

    Great video for all:



    Video Link

    • Thanks: irish Savant
  48. Anon[477] • Disclaimer says:

    Much of the following scenario was outlined initially in 1990 in a discussion at Fink’s Bar in Jerusalem. This is a transcribed quote taken from an audio recording of Benjamin Netanyahu (at that meeting:

    “If we get caught they will just replace us with persons of the same cloth. So it does not matter what you do, America is a golden calf and we will suck it dry, chop it up, and sell it off piece by piece until there is nothing left but the world’s biggest welfare state that we will create and control.
    Why? Because it is the will of God, and America is big enough to take the hit so we can do it again and again and again. This is what we do to countries that we hate. We destroy them very slowly and make them suffer for refusing to be our slaves.” (confirmed by an “attendee” during a debriefing).”
    https://new.euro-med.dk/20150320-veterans-today-rewrites-us-history-much-worse-than-you-ever-believed.php

    • Replies: @irish Savant
  49. @Chris Moore

    The problem is most Christians are cucked by the Jews. Like cattle or lambs they have no concept or fear and danger from their enemies. It’ll take more than simply waking up to stop this crap. Waking up is only the first step.

  50. Chriss says:

    Once upon a time, the US dominated the economy. Today, out of 180 260m+ skyscrapers, 62 are in China, 50 in Arab countries, 37 in the USA. In Europe, 7 – of which 1 in Poland and 5 in Russia. Under the occupation of the EU, Europe has become an open-air museum.
    The race for building height records reflects the economic situation well:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fp2gJxNXwAY8ZHY?format=png&name=medium

    In China, from Shanghai to Beijing (and between most major cities) we take the Fùxīng Hào train at 350 km/h for $141 (first class) or $242 Business 1300 km
    And from New York to Chicago, 1,145 km, we also travel by state-owned AMTRAK in 19 hours (61 km/h) for $550:https://www.insider.com/review-amtrak-train-new-york-chicago-2021-7#i-worked-on-getting-comfortable-in-my-new-home-for-the-next-19-hours-8

  51. eah says:

    >years later than previously expected

    In general, government spending is considered part of GDP — so theoretically, the US could further delay the time when China will surpass the US in GDP by continuing to run massive deficits.

    Which is pretty funny if you think about it.

  52. JR Foley says:
    @Zane

    Biden time –USA will come to a sudden end when USA buck is worth less than the paper it is written on ” In God We Trust” but Job 1 has the god of this world ( Walking up and down the earth and all that is in it –IE 755 Military bases worldwide –for regime change- conflict – war and sanctions —) and he is satan—–the father of lies and murder.

  53. @IronForge

    Thanks, IronForge!

    And perhaps you recall President Trumpstein’s family visit with the Chinese leadership including Xi. My regret for having forgotten the date, which was reported by the WSJ.

    The main focus of the meeting was an attempt to get Goldman Sachs “unfettered” access to investment in China, which meant that no ties to mainland Chinese.
    Wisely, this effort was rejected by China.

    The only thing that favorably happened was that Ivanka Kuchner got a juicy contract to market and sell her brand of cosmetics in China.

    • Thanks: Sarah
  54. @Zane

    Indeed. As Japan was over-leveraged and misallocated much capital, China has been busy carefully unwinding their own issues, esp. real estate and overcapacity in certain sectors.

    Everybody knows about the US’s issues, but this dead cat’s been bouncing around for a long time — We in Asia should invest in necromancy.

  55. @Ray Caruso

    That does seem to be the plan, and South Africa the template.

    • Replies: @One Nobody
  56. 再次感谢山姆·沃尔顿背叛了美国劳动力,将其作为许多爱钱的精神病患者之一。

    Zàicì gǎnxiè shānmǔ·wò ēr dùn bèipànle měiguó láodònglì, jiāng qí zuòwéi xǔduō ài qián de jīngshénbìng huànzhě zhī yī.

    Translates…

    Thank you again Sam Walton for betraying the American workforce as one of many love of money psychopaths.

    我们以你山姆的名字命名新航母!

    Wǒmen yǐ nǐ shānmǔ de míngzì mìngmíng xīn hángmǔ!

    We name new aircraft carrier after you Sam!

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  57. @Notsofast

    History does indeed go in cycles. Just compare China’s achievement with Hitler’s National Socialism. A growth in real wages of around 250% in a matter of 12 years, plus Strength Through Joy that put the working classes almost at parity with middle and upper middle classes with respect to chilling out and entertainment.

    Richard Tedor’s “Hitler’s Revolution” is highly recommended reading as it is one of the few objective books about the forbidden side of Adolf Hitler.

    As long as finance is subordinated to industry and agriculture, the vultures will be kept at bay, and the nation will prosper through real increases in productivity with the wealth effect permeating all strata of society.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  58. MLK says:
    @Jim H

    Quite right. I would go further, to the extent that the ruling and governing classes have learned from CCP China, it’s been wholly deleterious for the US and its citizenry.

    We in the West, most especially the US, must finally accept that the period since the signal events in 1989-91, have been a world-historical Sad Story for the US and the West.

    Where you sit determines what you admire and seek to emulate of your erstwhile enemies. I won’t belabor this by going back to pre and post-WWII. But it is worth remembering those aspects of the former Soviet Union that made the US national security state positively envious, like Russian superiority at the spy game.

    Is it really so hard to see that US elites are tired and desperate for some of that CCP Chinese perpetual power magic? Behind the curtain — with occasional moments visible to the hoi polloi — they’ve figured out that competition, whether in commerce or in terms of consent of the governed through free and fair elections, sucks. It’s difficult and, most worryingly, offers no guarantee of success. Especially if you’re ill-motivated, selfish, and bring nothing to the table that any non-psychopath wants.

  59. yaya says:
    @Charles

    How many shekels do uncle shmuel paid you to write that ?

  60. Che Guava says:
    @RJ Macready

    Thanks for posting that.

    Used to be a site that had his radio interviews, I checked tonight, it is gone, but archive.org has many. Downloading recommended, I will be.


    The one that brought his broadcasts to my attention was just after the deadly Loewy/Silverstein N.Y.C. World Trade Center insurance fires of 2001.

    Fischer starts with ‘This is wonderful news.’, then continues with a very entertaining rant.

    This was very soon after, next day IIRC, so he can be forgiven for missing the many other aspects subsequently revealed (and as much as possible later hidden).

    Fischer had at the time for some years been circulating between the Philippines (as a resident I think) and Japan (on tourist visas). He had a de facto wife in Japan, Watai Miyoko. they officially married in the end.

    The U.S. State Department ordered his extradition while he was in Japan in 2004, so the Japanese authorities complied as far as putting him in detention, but didn’t extradite him to the U.S.A.

    Iceland then accepted him. His wife visited him there at times. He died in 2008.

    Information on all of the latter is much better in Japanese than English. Watai took the case of the estate to court in Iceland, the top court threw it out, but a case in a lower court (2011) found in her favour, she was awarded (I’m not sure received) the two-million-dollar estate.

  61. China will be a much better steward of the world economy than white Americans ever could be. All boils down to IQ

  62. @Anon

    The financial sector creates debt. Why did the banks need to be bailed out by the government if they were really that profitable?

    • Replies: @Anon
  63. @RJ Macready

    You’re on the UR so you should know by now where Covid-19 came from, why and how.p If China’s reputation is hurt it is because of the hostile propaganda blitz in the media when in fact their response was probably the best and hence very few deaths in their country, as opposed to most other places.

  64. SoUtH says:

    WAKE THE FUCK UP, PEOPLE !!!

    Have I got your attention? If so, then think about the significance and implications of the following three points.

    A. The Power of a Meme, Picture, or Graphic to Encapsulate Truth

    B. Mike’s Fundamental Conceptual Error in This Article

    C. The Fundamental Shortcoming of This Article

    ***

    A. The Power of a Meme, Picture, or Graphic to Convey Truth

    As a way to illustrate my forthcoming point, consider first that the US “administration” continuously states, “Israel has a right to defend itself.”

    Question: What is the meaning of this statement?

    https://www.palestinepnc.org/en/news/item/14-palestine-people-and-land-palestinian-loss-of-land-1946-2010

    Answer: See graphic at above site (the image would not post). Period. Question fully answered.

    Now ask: What is wrong with America?

    Answer: See the picture above at end of Mike’s article. This is what is missing from US culture. Period. Question fully answered.

    Mike even quotes Ron Unz as saying: “[T]he vast majority of China’s newly created economic wealth has flowed to ordinary Chinese workers.” Look to the picture to see its result. Well, duh. If you can’t find the picture above, here is its link.

    B. Mike’s Fundamental Conceptual Error in This Article

    Despite the fact that Mike quotes Ron’s article as identifying the veritable source of the problem in US society as:

    “[T]he behavior of ruling elites largely determine[s] the economic success or failure of countries. If most Americans have experienced virtually no economic gains for decades, perhaps we should cast our gaze at these factors in our own society… [viz., on] Our Extractive Elites. When parasitic elites govern a society along “extractive” lines, a central feature is the massive upward flow of extracted wealth, regardless of any contrary laws or regulations. Certainly America has experienced an enormous growth of officially tolerated corruption as our political system has increasingly consolidated into a one-party state controlled by a unified media-plutocracy”,

    he (Mike) consistently uses language diametrically opposed to Ron’s pithy insight and this erroneous viewpoint flavors his entire article.

    Mike says that there is a, “deep polarization and political DYSFUNCTION in the western democracies.” He points to: “The problem, of course, is that mounting POLICY ERRORS eventually lead to a drop-off in productivity which allows other, more ambitious countries to fill the void.”

    Wake up, people. Smell the coffee.

    What is going on in US is not the result of “policy errors” or “misjudgments,” or “dysfunction,” or the “stupidity” of our leaders. First of all, we have no leaders. We have owners, as George Carlin tried to teach to us long ago. So, kindly stop referring to them as “leaders” or insinuating that they are individuals who have been “elected” by the people “to govern” their country.

    First, they are not elected by the people, they are appointed by our Owners.

    Second of all, they do not govern. They are there, operating as a mafia, to carry out the agenda of our Owners.

    So, in no sense of the word are they “stupid” or engaged in “misjudgments” or in “policy” “errors.” They know precisely what they are doing and they are engaging in gaslighting to smokescreen these plans. Just because their conduct does not accord with the rational thought of a Chinese, it does not follow that our Owners are not acting “rationally” vis a vis THEIR evil agenda and desired outcomes. Period. Next paragraph.

    C. The Fundamental Shortcoming of This Article

    Mike says, “Washington has no vision for the future at all [a comment that is pure bullshit, as I will prove below]. What Washington offers is another century of sanctions, regime change and war” [actually, they are not offering anything; they are IMPOSING and it is a vision for the future that goes well beyond their military agenda as cited by Mike].

    Mike’s article fails to recognize the specific agenda of our Owners. I have no guess as to his reasons therefor. But let us ask two questions. The answers to these queries expose truth in the same way as a really profound meme or graphic or picture exposes truth.

    Question #1: Why is the war in Ukraine being fought (and, saliently, with such vigor as “down to the last Ukrainian,” and “for as long as it takes”)?

    Answer:

    https://strategic-culture.org/news/2014/12/03/israel-secret-plan-for-second-israel-in-ukraine/

    Question #2: Why are our Owners directing their governmental mafia agents in the way that is clearly displayed in front of our eyes? They ain’t stupid. Remember?, as above argued?

    Answer:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/world-economic-forums-ai-enslavement-coming-you

    • Replies: @SoUtH
    , @Reverend Goody
  65. Ron West says:

    Most major US weapons systems contain chinese components.

  66. SoUtH says:
    @SoUtH

    The article to which I have just posted link is so important that I am supplementing my own post with the text of two of its paragraphs.

    Here is that text from the article:

    “[T]he WEF’s new world order will be remarkably centralized. “Experts” on climate change will determine what kinds of energy may be used by businesses and consumers. “Experts” on sustainability will determine what foods humans (at least the non-“elite” variety) may eat. “Experts” on disinformation will determine what kinds of news and which side of a debate may be known and promoted. “Experts” on healthcare will determine how many times each citizen must be injected with ever-newer “vaccines,” whether citizens must be kept in lockdown “for their own good,” and whether face masks must be worn to prove continuing compliance. “Experts” on extremism will determine what kinds of speech are “harmful.” “Experts” on racism will determine which groups in society have unfair “privilege.” “Experts” in inequality will determine whose property must be taken and which groups the State should reward. “Experts” in whatever the State requires will determine that the State is acting reasonably every step of the way. However, freedom of thought, freedom of speech, individual rights, and other personal liberties will mean little in a WEF-constructed future running on philosopher-king-approved expertise. At no time can an individual’s needs, wants or concerns be allowed to obstruct the “greater good.” This is Schwab’s drab vision of Utopia.

    “Should he and the WEF clan pull it off, they will do so by using technology to enfeeble, rather than empower, the human race. Already, people have become familiar with the new terms of their future enslavement. Central bank digital currencies will allow governments not only to track every citizen’s income and purchase history in real time but also to limit what a person may spend depending upon government-determined social credit scores, perceived infractions of the “common good,” or perhaps unfair possession of “systemic privilege.” Digital vaccine passports will not only provide universal tracking of every person’s movements but also ensure stick-and-carrot compliance with future mandatory orders during declared “health emergencies.” Personal carbon footprints measuring each individual’s “culpability” for so-called man-made climate change will have the effect of recording everything a person eats and everywhere a person goes, while constantly “nudging” each citizen with digital rewards or penalties to modify behavior toward the government’s preferred standards. It should go without saying that when any government possesses such omnipotent powers, invasions of privacy will only expand, declared “health emergencies” will become only more numerous, and government “nudging” will become only more intrusive.”

    And, again, here is the link.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/world-economic-forums-ai-enslavement-coming-you

    • Replies: @NIdahoCatholic
  67. @Zane

    A better analogy is the USA is China in the 1800s…..rotten down to the core, yet arrogant and delusional.

    Better prepare yourself for a century of humiliation.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  68. Nat X says:

    How did these slants get so powerful? Thanks old dead yts!

  69. @Ray Caruso

    How much of US GDP is real and how much is (((Wall Street)))? Whatever the ratio of real to other is, it’s certainly lower than China’s.

    The US GDP is like a highly successful insurance salesman. China’s GDP is like a handyman who can fix pretty much everything. Russia’s GDP is like a mechanic with lots of parts and tools. The insurance salesman is making good six figure income while the handyman and mechanic are making below average income. The insurance salesman looks down on the handyman and mechanic, drives a luxury car and lives in a fancy big house. When war broke out, the economy tanked, guess who survive? Sure, the insurance salesman during “peace time” can pay people to harass lesser people (smaller countries), buy lots of weapons with money created out of thin air, acting big and deluded itself into thinking it is the baddest of them of all.

    • Replies: @Ray Caruso
  70. Ron Unz says:
    @Charles

    China encompasses dozens of ethnicities, though the Han are by far the most numerous and many others are statistically insignificant.

    I think the statistics are even stronger than that. From one of my articles:

    Following the 1991 collapse and disintegration of the Soviet Union, some observers noted with unease that the United States was left as about the only remaining large and fully-functional multi-ethnic society, and the subsequent collapse and disintegration of ethnically diverse Yugoslavia merely strengthened these concerns. China is sometimes portrayed by the ignorant American media as having large and restive minority populations, but it is 92 percent Han Chinese, and if we exclude a few outlying or thinly populated provinces—the equivalents of Alaska, Hawaii, and New Mexico—closer to 95 percent Han, with all its top leadership drawn from that same background and therefore possessing a natural alignment of interests. Without doubt, America’s great success despite its multiplicity of ethnic nationalities is almost unique in modern human history. But such success should not be taken for granted.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/challenging-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/

    • Replies: @eah
    , @24th Alabama
  71. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    Could you grow the hell up, child? How about the invasion, annexation, and ongoing genocide of Tibet? What about Burma? And India? They even attacked the fucking USSR for 7 months. And then they invaded Vietnam (and somehow lost to a nation which had been in a state of war or civil war for 40 years).

    Get a clue. If the best you can do is a username modification, maybe shut up about things you don’t understand, commie worshipper.

    • Troll: Ann Nonny Mouse
    • Replies: @Che Guava
    , @unzrocks
    , @bjondo
  72. @Franz

    And many of us in US industry warned, threatened and cajoled these Wall Street fools not to go down the road they were on. But oh man. Everytime a major US industry rolled up and moved on to China the stock market went batshit. The rich got richer. The Reaganites were happy. All was well in their inverted, perverted corner of the economic world.

    Yes, that 1 or 2% handed out enough 401Kibble to keep the next quintile smugly quiet and complacent. Remember when talking heads would dry hump the DJIA as though it was the economy? And desk jockeys would check their portfolios a few times a day?

    Five of those seven deadly sins: pride, greed, envy, gluttony, and sloth.

    • Agree: Realist, Franz
  73. Sarah says:

    Washington has no vision for the future at all. What Washington offers is another century of sanctions, regime change and war.

    👍👌

    • Thanks: Agent76
    • Replies: @Agent76
  74. John1955 says:

    Steel production by country, 2022:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_steel_production

    China: 1,032.8 millions metric tons
    USA: 85.8 millions metric tons

    Manufacturing output, 2021:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing

    China: $4,865T
    USA: $2,337T

    • Replies: @The_Masterwang
  75. Anonymous[261] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ray Caruso

    What did we expect – would you give control of your economy to intelligent controller with a long range plan or trust your country’s future to some sociopathic jerk who inherited his money and wants more even if he has to snatch it out of some child’s mouth; some Chinese economist with an IQ of 150 and a strong moral nature or some Epstein bribing some Bill Clinton with underage sex for a chance to offload his Grandaddy’s auto parts factory to some overseas area with lower taxes and labor costs. Huh?
    What the Hell did we expect?
    If you don’t like it – why don’t you vote for some Bernie Sanders instead of some Clinton or Bush trash?

    • Replies: @Ray Caruso
  76. eudion2 says:
    @Chris Moore

    Christendom took down the satanic Roman Empire, and it will take down this freak show if it could only get ZOG’s jackboot off its neck.

    Durrr! Christianity WAS the Roman Empire from the early 300s on. The ‘Holy’ Roman Catholic Church consolidated power, turning the Imperium into a corrupt theocracy that lasted until the Reformation.

    Moreover, Christianity is all about the ZOG jackboot. You don’t see Jews occupying prominent positions in Muslim, Buddhist, or Hindu countries. Even under the Zionist-created Soviet Union, atheism gradually edged out Jewish domination. It’s Christianity alone that reveres the Jews as the Chosen People and gives them social prominence so that Jewish moneylenders are welcomed into the courts of kings. You can pull out-of-context quotes from the New Testament like ‘the Devil is your father’ and ‘the Synagogue of Satan,’ but at the end of the day, Jesus is Jewish, his disciples are Jewish, and Paul, the greatest money-grubbing religious huckster in Christendom, is Jewish. They all professed that ‘Salvation is from the Jews’ and that the promises of a Jewish-supremacist global theocracy prophesied in the Old Testament will come to pass. Christianity is the root of Jewish power in Western civilization, and Christianity is all about the ZOG jackboot.

    ZOG would have no power in the US today were it not for evangelical Christians believing that Jews are the Chosen People. This was demonstrated just over a decade ago, when the hundreds of thousands of the Tea Party march on Washington gathered to hear Glen Beck instruct them to confess their sins, beg forgiveness before God, and . . . pray. And thus, deprived of any constructive direction for action, the Tea Party movement fizzled out. Not the first time that happened in history — the Mexican revolution met a similar fate when the patrician class hid behind the skirts of a bishop as he remonstrated the uprising peasants to accept their lot in life and return to the plantations in Christian humility. Religion is always the last refuge of the reactionary overclass.

    Historians from the time of Edward Gibbon recognize that Christianity was the ultimate corruption of the Roman Empire. It didn’t take down the empire, it became the empire, and because the worst kind of corruption is that of the soul, it was the Christian empire that collapsed into the dark ages.

    Why must Christianity lead to decay and collapse of civilization? Because it’s easy enough for every human being to intuitively sense that there is a soul, an afterlife, a supreme being and more to life than mechanistic evolution. But Christianity ties itself to the Bible, and the Bible begins with a science lesson (Genesis Creation Myth) and a history lesson (the centrality of the Jewish people in ancient history) — both of which have been proven false by modern scholarship (or, for that matter, just plain common sense). So Christianity forcibly attaches pure spirituality to obvious lies, the result being that pure spirituality is discredited and dismissed, leading to a spiritual vacuum which is quickly filled with narcissism and perversion.

    Moreover, Christianity requires its followers to submit to the authority of religious leaders — in other words, to those who either fervently believe the lie or are supreme hypocrites. And this hypocrisy was the rottenness at the core of Western civilization for 1500 years, from the time of the collapse of the Roman Empire to its rejection during the Enlightenment and subsequent Industrial Revolution.

    Do you think the homosexual, child-abusing ‘freak show’ that Western civilization has become has nothing to do with Christianity? For 1500 years, the Catholic Church ruled Western civilization, and its priesthood was empowered to do things that are only now coming to light. And as we all know from the news, those things are homosexual and child-abusing. No surprise that the ruling class has become a moral reflection of the ruling Church.

    Christianity is what got us into this mess. It will never get the jackboot of ZOG off our necks. It is the jackboot of ZOG on our necks.

    • Thanks: RoatanBill, Sarah
    • Troll: Che Guava
  77. Notsofast says:
    @Joe Levantine

    agree and this is why the russian and chinese economies are so important, because they demonstrate how successful they can can be for all levels of society when oligarchs are merely held in check and subordinated to the to the civil government, rather than being the ruling class of oligarchy.

    the russians in particular have done a masterful job of managing their economy within the standards of the west, while the entirety of the western economies have broken their own standards on deficit spending and debt to gdp ratio. the west has been beaten throughly in the hybrid economic world war they instituted and instigated against both russia and china. to me the only question left is what these cornered rats are going to do in response.

    • Agree: Joe Levantine
  78. @Ray Caruso

    Like China absorbed Ukrainian weapons experts (especially those with gas turbine expertise) after the collapse of the USSR.

  79. Che Guava says:
    @RoboMoralFascist 1st

    Bizarre. What does it have to do with anything?

    • Replies: @boynkin
  80. Realist says:
    @michael droy

    Using PPP – the only basis that makes any economic sense, China over took US in 2016.
    Of course even PPP understates the level of financialisation of the US Economy and Chinas’ actual ability to produce real products.

    Exactly, using GDP as an indicator is nonsensical, especially as the United States defines it. GDP, as it stands, is uselessly overloaded with financial products that produce nothing of intrinsic value.

    • Agree: Notsofast
    • Replies: @Brian Damage
  81. @Zane

    China is the proverbial bug in search of a windshield. China is Japan 1989.

    Japans problems started with it being forced/duped into signing the Plaza Accord (1985). When Japan revalued it’s currency to the US dollar, so began the downfall. “Japanese traitors” within their Central Bank played a prominent role:

    Video Link
    China has resisted US pressure to revalue it’s currency significantly because they are aware of Japans history and China (State) owns it’s Central Bank.

    • Thanks: Sarah, showmethereal
  82. Knowbody says:

    ” In short, the Chinese Miracle is largely attributable to financialization and the short-sighted policies that allowed US corporations to move their industries elsewhere rather than provide incentives for them to stay in America.”

    The policies weren’t shortsighted, they were INTENTIONAL. The Criminals making use of America for the past 160 years since about 1860 had decided to make China the next USA, so they could go there and do the same manipulations and Cuntrol and Take Take Take.

    Until people recognize this, the people behind the people implementing the intentionally garbage policies will just keep showing up and doing the same thing over and over again.

    How about we all find out whos paid the seated authorities to implement intentionally harmful policies AGAINST the american public, instead of implementing policies that Help the American Public do its own thing.

    The Centralization and Cuntrol of national agencies needs to be checked before we step into the CDC/WHO bullshit and pretend international agencies can tell nations what to do, specially when those international agencies have no home nation and no reason to treat the peoples of any nation as their own.

  83. However, “China’s Government-Directed Investment Model” is the direct result of Mao’s and Deng’s dealings with “Americas Hyper-Financialized Economic System” that represents the terrorist USEUNATO conglomerate, with which the Chinese regime is seeking to sign the EU-China association agreement. If the hanlders and managers of Western “free market” policy hadn’t given China tech, know-how and commercial benefits, the financial growth of China in US$ exchange rate, would hardly be what it’s been. Not everyone’s allowed to keep a US funny-money-pegged currency like China or, in “neutral” terms, Switzerland.

  84. anonymous[281] • Disclaimer says:

    Nice photo at the end of the article, American (White) style, but that won’t save the yellow China because they will have way too many enemies to succeed… they’ve dug their own hole and must lie in it to be destroyed.

    • Replies: @Brian Damage
  85. Treg says:

    American and European Jewish Elites, all 300-400 of them, don’t have a plan. No plan. Zero. In fact they LIKE the absolute citizen controls over in China, heck they have been building them for the past 18 years now over a billion people. So whats a measly 335 million people in America? Nothing, thats what. Whats a measly 500 million Europeans? Nothing.

    So perhaps its time they need some real oxygen deprivation to get some inspiration? Let’s start at their wallet with a List & a Boycott, and move on squeezing from there with “return incentives and if you don’t return incentives” and follow that up with Ceo and board expulsions and take overs in a PRO AMERICA realignment.

    America First baby. Western Civilization demands elites dance to our song.


    Video Link

  86. China started war with India in the 60’s , with Russia in the 50’s , with Vietnam in the 70’s and was also a major belligerent supplying millions of tonnes of military equipment for the Afghanistan war against Soviet union, against US in the Korean war , in innumerable border fights between India and also supporting Pakistan against India etc – Shilling for China is understandable and it has started less wars than the US but trying to whitewash it as a benign power only interested in global development is the work of an paid propogandist , not an impartial writer

    • Agree: Zane
  87. Che Guava says:
    @Tallest Skil

    You have good points, not all valid, all context-free, so none well made. Sure, giving China a score of zero for wars since founding of the U.S.A. is nonsense, but you don’t make a case or even give a phrase to explain any of your claims.

    I’m tired, so not doing it for you where they are valid. Sleep calls.

  88. nsa says:

    In the last hundred years, the Mackinder World Island (eurasia), has forcibly ejected all peripheral island empires (yanks, japs, brits, etc). The Mackinder Word Island contains 5 billion talented, intelligent, productive citizens populating 21 million square miles, and sits atop much of the world’s resources. The World Island is bookended by nuclear powers, Russia and China, with another nuclear power, India, supporting the south. The chances of a barbarous marauding peripheral island empire like the GloboHomoSchlomos conquering the World Island are nil. Game over. It is inevitable that even the pathetic euorweanies eventually cast off their globohomoschlomo shackles and take their rightful place in the World Island.

    • Replies: @Munga Bulga
  89. Realist says:
    @Miro23

    The problem here, is that the mafia running the US would need to stop being the mafia.

    They’re not going to do that. The game has been too profitable for them over the last 50 years. For example, US wealth inequality (Gini coefficient) has now reached Third World type levels (US = 41,4 , Haiti = 41,1).

    That’s not to say that they can’t be forced out.

    But that force will not be elections…something much more substantial is required.

  90. Salcio says:

    Hmmm …
    so, according to this article, there is a small clique, a global financial elite, which controls US.
    They profited enormously by moving US production facilities to China.
    But now they push for war between US and China.
    Wait a moment, they want to destroy the system which has been working so well to their advantage?
    This is like killing a goose which lays golden eggs.
    Those people are idiots!.
    Of course not.
    The article is just a nonsense like bubbling by a hater.
    It does not matter left wing hater or right wing hater because they are all the same.
    The part which is missing is that China under Xi moved to far left and this has caused a lot of problems.
    It remains to see if a country ruled by commies can sustain economic development.
    If history is any indication – the answer is resounding no.
    The real danger to the West maybe China with collapsing economy.
    Because once it happens, in foreign policy, aggressive nationalism will become a norm.

  91. fjwoeks says:

    no such thing as pushing or desperate or for or war or etc, money x or not doesn’t matter, cepuxuax, any perfect any no matter what

  92. Ummmpph! says:

    I always enjoy reading Mike Whitney’s stories. Thanks! I hope China becomes whatever it wants to become. I just wish more Chinese and Indians stay in their own countries. But no, they want to be turned out by our deviant Zionist rulers and come here and complain white people are evil.

  93. boynkin says:

    The Clintons pushed China’s acceptance into the WTO, then initiated policies that rewarded companies (financially) to relocate there. Of course, the (((bankers))) were the big winners. Workers in the US were the big losers. It didn’t take a genius to see this coming. The only real question is, how much did the Clintons get for selling out the Entire US?

  94. Silly neo-fascist take, globalist perspective. Top down is not efficient and is nearly gone.

    Were the author not a ZBW he would note how that approach hurt in the pandemic.

  95. boynkin says:
    @Folkvangr

    Does he identify as a male? If so, he’s already ahead his US counterparts.

  96. Hacienda says:

    The media led the charge against Saddam, Qaddafi, Milosevic, Putin and countless others. Now China’s Jinping is in the imperial crosshairs.

    The US media has been huffing and puffing against the Kims in the Best Korea for decades. Nothing has happened. The US media is a whiny little girl who wants everybody to pay attention to her frilly skirt, tiara, and red shoes. And if she doesn’t get it, she will scream for murder.

    • Agree: Sarah
  97. @Tranceislife

    India started the 1962 war with China not the other way round. And got their asses whooped so bad they still have a severe trauma from it. The Indian inferiority superiority complex is partially due to this. India’s always been an inward looking, self obsessed nation, always conquered by outsiders but the China whooping was a big wake up call in the 20th century, which led to India’s obsession with militarisation.

    • Agree: showmethereal
  98. Pablo says:

    It wasn’t really China that has put the USA into its current status. The Current Status the USA finds itself in is the natural result of letting Billionaires take over your Government. Not just Wall Street. Although Wall Street has also played a significant role in shaping the US of A as it stands today. And these Financial parasites, bith the Banksters and the Billionaires who intrude themselves into Politics follow the same short script. Load up on debt and then have the Taxpayer–also known as The Mark–bail everyone out. This has been the Script since the 1980’s. I would encourage people to (re) read the S&L scandal of the 1980’s. Martin Mayer wrote a book on the subject called “The Greatest Ever Bank Robbery: The Collapse of the Savings and Loan Industry”. This sh3t has been going on since Reagan. Reagans Presidency opened the floodgates to sleaze and corruption. Astonishingly, the sucker taxayers have sat idly by and not uttered a peep of protest. The S&L scandal should have triggered a Lynch Mob. It didn’t, pointing to another source of America’s Decline.

  99. :Laughing. no doubt China is flexing her muscles in Asia. Without question. And countries from Australia to Vietnam are feeling the pressure.

    Invest in China is China’s achilles heel. Should Europe and the US press sanctions against China — she is going to feel the pinch. And her’s the reality

    unless the west has the wherewithall to withhold investing, then China has no reason to blink at threats from the US or Europe. Because while Ukraine look unimportant, the west’s response speaks volumes.

    I am just as content to be in the minority on Ukraine, Russia and China as I was with our needless invasions into Iraq and Afghanistan. Despite a stacked deck in the wests favor, she opted out.

  100. boynkin says:
    @Che Guava

    All the way back in the 70’s, when some reporters actually practiced journalism, there was a major expose of Walmart buying clothing from China and having Made in USA labels sewn into them. Then, of course, there was Saipan, where Chinese girls were promised good jobs in the US and instead were sent there and forced to work in sweatshops with little or no compensation and where they were forced to act as prostitutes for the bigwig shop owners (Walmart and others) who would come to “inspect” the goods. Our wonderful gov’t even held hearings on this, but nothing came of it (of course). Does Robo know any of this? I don’t know.

    • Thanks: Che Guava, Sarah
  101. Alrenous says: • Website

    China’s Government-Directed Investment Model

    America is a Fascist country and as such its investment is also nearly all government-directed, they just pretend it isn’t for the obvious reasons. However, America’s investors are insecure and thus focus on short-term profits. Also known as corruption.
    E.g. elected officials have term limits and will lose their insider trading rights, and thus push for get-rich-quick schemes so they can cash out before they have to bail.

    It’s actually illegal for publicly traded American companies to care about the long term. If they don’t maximize quarterly profits, you can sue. And you can reasonably win. Worth repeating: that’s a legally-mandated 3-month time horizon. Three-month maximum. Gross.

    Likewise a whole bunch of folk are in the stock market who shouldn’t be due to 401(k). This results in more money in stocks than there is value in stocks. That means: endless bubbles. There is always at least one wildly overpriced stock. Which means anyone who has wealth in stocks is insecure. They want to cash out before the bubble pops: short time horizons.
    Indeed, illegitimately inflating the stock market is what the 401(k) racket is for.

    Constantly trading the long-term for the short-term. Fascism is left wing, and leftists are always irresponsible.

    By contrast Chinese Party men are not only allowed but encouraged to consolidate their domains. At the least the medium term matters to them.

    the short-sighted policies that allowed US corporations to move their industries elsewhere rather than provide incentives for them to stay in America.

    lol @ “provide incentives”
    America has done everything it can to choke labour in red tape. At every opportunity it piles on new costs and pointless busywork, in addition to saddling every productive worker with at least two shiftless, unemployable HR types.
    Why? Bums vote left. The poorer America is, the more dependent they are on the government. The government is genuinely too weak to withstand an independent electorate: it would collapse.

    China “provides incentives” by not making their companies pay a 50% premium on wages with taxes and bureaucracy (but I repeat myself). American labour is still, despite everything, superior to Chinese labour. But not over 50% superior.

    You know shipping things by train costs a fraction of shipping things by truck? Like 1/5 per ton or something? Yet, almost all American shipping is by truck. Why? GM gotta get paid. The train companies didn’t lobby enough. Sucks to be you, America.

    By contrast, China has regular corruption sweeps. Perpetrators are actually executed.
    Sure they always find plenty of corruption, but, like, imagine not just letting it run rampant. What if you spent nonzero effort discouraging corruption.

    • Thanks: RoatanBill
  102. @Realist

    Exactly, using GDP as an indicator is nonsensical, especially as the United States defines it. GDP, as it stands, is uselessly overloaded with financial products that produce nothing of intrinsic value.

    Exactly.

    GDP was created in the late 1600s and it was used to measure actual gross domestic products. Back then, gross domestic products were real products so the measurement was quite useful. It was that case even in the 1800s into the early/mid 1900s. When services exceeded manufacturing, agriculture and resource extraction, GDP is no longer useful. How can a country with high GDP but most of the gross domestic products are services. If they are tangible services with intrinsic value, they should be Ok but a large chunk of it are people printing and moving money around, then, GDP is overstated.

    • Replies: @Alrenous
  103. China’s turn to restore her historical borders by annexing the Russian Far East. lol

  104. Alrenous says: • Website
    @dogbumbreath

    Central banks are inherently traitorous. The only reason to have a central bank is to immiserate the country.

    Currency is supposed to be unforgeably costly. Paper money is unforgeably cheap. The value of paper money should hit zero the day after it is introduced; instead the central bank mines the country’s gullibility to delay the inevitable.

    As we can see, the common folk tend to run out of money before they run out of gullibility. They will eventually run out of gullibility too, though.

  105. @brostoevsky

    Christians worship a Jewish religion and think the son of their God is a Jew. Why wouldn’t they be cucked by Jews?

    • Replies: @Ennui
    , @Sarita
    , @barr
    , @Folkvangr
  106. @anonymous

    Nice photo at the end of the article, American (White) style, but that won’t save the yellow China because they will have way too many enemies to succeed… they’ve dug their own hole and must lie in it to be destroyed.

    Who are the “too many enemies”?

  107. @Notsofast

    You’re talking about the country where suicide nets are a thing as some bastion of improvements in the quality of life of workers. I guess you’re referring to those they’re killing in their concentration camps because it’s probably better to be dead than a Chinese slave.

    You’re also talking about people who pay mortgages on houses that don’t exist yet and for whom they’ll be only tenants because property doesn’t really exist in China, it’s more like a lease. lol

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  108. @A B Coreopsis

    Even Russia has not escaped the Zio stranglehold. Lest we forget.

  109. Alrenous says: • Website
    @eudion2

    Now just realize it’s not ZOG it was Christianity the whole time. The last time Jews had any real power it was all about Jew-Jew conflicts. Zealots and so on. They didn’t have power and continue not to have any real power.

    Also, have cause and effect reversed. Wet streets rain etc. Rome became a spiritual vaccum, and therefore became Christian, to express this vacuum properly.

    The original problem is worshipping a State in the first place. City-State, Nation-State, doesn’t-matter-State.
    The organization of these black States is inherently illegitimate, and requires fanatical adherence to a superstitious religion to avoid instant and universal disobedience among their subjects. Naturally this superstition pushes out any real spirituality, as it is directly opposed to and by the divine.

    The superstition evolves over time because lies have a shelf-life. They expire.

    They expire particularly quickly when exposed to Greek Sophism, since they replace the lies with more virulent lies whenever possible.
    Christianity is one of the major evolutions of Greek Sophism. Jesus was a disciple of Protagoras whether he wanted to be or not. Christianity remains one of Sophism’s favoured vectors.
    Today, Jews are favoured spokesmen because they really get Protagoras’ ideas and methods.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  110. @dogbumbreath

    inZane is just a white Ah Q.

    • Replies: @Zane
  111. Decoy says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    “The Taiwanese are watching American proxy Ukraine being slowly destroyed”

    Agree with you although we can quibble about the “slowly” part.

    I don’t follow Taiwan politics closely but I believe a recent election trimmed the sails of the pro American faction and that a recent visit from mainland China delegates furthered that situation.

    The Taiwanese people would have to be crazier than Zelensky if they let their government get into a proxy war for the United States. Maybe, just maybe, the reality of what life is now like for the average Ukrainian citizen will indelibly be in people’s minds across the world and the next time someone from DC says to them that “we are here to liberate you” that person will be told to get out of town and your plane leaves in 10 minutes.

    • LOL: niceland
  112. Agent76 says:

    February 23, 2023 China’s Important Document entitled “US Hegemony and Its Perils”

    Introductory Note: The Chinese document “US Hegemony and its Perils” just came out on 20 February 2023.

    It is very important – and says: Since becoming the world’s most powerful country after the two world wars and the Cold War, the United States has acted more boldly to interfere in the internal affairs of other countries, pursue, maintain and abuse hegemony, advance subversion and infiltration, and willfully wage wars, bringing harm to the international community.

    https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/wjbxw/202302/t20230220_11027664.html

    Feb 1, 2023 China Is Flooding the World With Cheap Cars

    Like almost everything made in China, cars are cheaper than most brands made elsewhere. That’s a huge draw for consumers, since cars are a large ticket item. But like with all things made in China, there are concerns about them. In this episode of China Uncensored, we look at the growth in Chinese car exports, why Chinese cars could be a national security threat, and how one UK government vehicle has already been found to be spying for China.


    Video Link

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
  113. Agent76 says:
    @Sarah

    Thanks for the informative share, and here is another share for you Sarah.

    February 4, 2023 The 239 Year Timeline Of America’s Involvement in Military Conflict

    In truth, the United States of America has been engaged in some kind of war during 218 out of the nation’s total 239 years of existence. Put another way, in the entire span of US history, this country has only experienced 21 years without conflict.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-239-year-timeline-of-americas-involvement-in-military-conflict/5497030

    • Thanks: Sarah
  114. SteveK9 says:

    It isn’t that China’s system is so great. It is that we are destroying ourselves from within. It is not just the policy decisions of our Zionist bankers to offshore our manufacturing. Anti-white racism is and will exact a cost. The Science/Engineeering sector is still relatively immune, but that part of our culture will not last forever. Already you have incompetent idiots managing far more capable people. Eventually they will not be able to maintain our competitiveness.

  115. I never understood why the US embarked on making China great again by outsourcing its manufacturing there, especially so after the Berlin Wall came down.
    But this obsession of Americans with ‘Being No1!’ that is now driving them to engage in warfare just to fight the mathematical certainty that China will soon overtake the US as per $GDP is the most crazy and potentially most dangerous and harmful defect of this nation and its people sofar.

  116. unzrocks says:
    @Tallest Skil

    India was mostly border skirmishes where soldiers fought with sticks and stones. Nothing to write home about. The Vietnam invasion was a response to Vietnam invading neighboring Cambodia to fight against Pol-Pot. It was mostly another border skirmish but this time with actual conventional weapons. But nothing major and nothing to write home about either. As for Tibet, yes you are right here in that China should return Tibet to the locals to run. But it’s not genocide since they aren’t mass murdering Tibetans. They annexed the territory and running it. Similar to how the US annexed Puerto Rico and Hawaii, etc. Most of China’s wars are mainly border skirmishes with their neighbors.

    • Thanks: JWalters, Ann Nonny Mouse
    • Replies: @Tallest Skil
  117. phil says:

    I look forward to reading every one of Mike Whitney’s articles, but he is not much of an economist. Multivariate regression analyses that includes consideration of China’s previous backwardness, historic illiteracy, changes in the economic system, and average cognitive ability find the following:

    1. The main factor in China’s rapid growth during the last quarter century has been its previous backwardness combined with high average cognitive ability. China has thus been able to adopt pre-existing technologies very fast.

    2, High cognitive ability also enables China, in some cases, to innovate on its own, and the workforce is generally hard-working and productive.

    3. The average amount of formal schooling received by a Chinese adult as of 1950 was only about one year! Over time, the amount of schooling greatly increased, literacy improved, and average cognitive ability improved. The average genotypic IQ in China–the IQ potential that can be approached with improvements in education and nutrition–is likely higher in China than among ethnic Europeans.

    4. In December 1978 China adopted the “Open Door” policy, which allowed for foreign investment. China later greatly reduced its tariff rates for a variety of foreign products. At the same time, farmers were given more freedom in their choice of crops, delivery quotas were reduced, and they could charge free market prices for above-quota production. Starvation became a thing of the past. Large-scale privatization occurred in the 1990s. On a scale from 0 to 10, the degree of capitalism in China increased from about 3.5 to about 6.5 in the 21st century. There has been some backsliding under Xi Xinping. The degree of capitalism in the West ranges from below 7 (Greece) to above 8 (Switzerland).

    5. China still has a large state sector, which is bloated and has many workers who could be more productively employed elsewhere. The BIG MISTAKE that many commentators make is to attribute China’s rapid growth to this large state sector. Growth has been rapid despite nationalized industries, not because of them, and growth rates have declined insofar as China is no longer so backward. (In a similar fashion rapid growth in Japan, which has since declined, was attributed to an activist industrial policy. Ditto for Singapore.) Still, China’s average living standards may eventually approach those in Western countries. At present China’s average living standards are comparable to Mexico’s.

  118. @Tranceislife

    China started war with India in the 60’s , with Russia in the 50’s , with Vietnam in the 70’s and was also a major belligerent supplying millions of tonnes of military equipment for the Afghanistan war against Soviet union, against US in the Korean war , in innumerable border fights between India and also supporting Pakistan against India etc – Shilling for China is understandable and it has started less wars than the US but trying to whitewash it as a benign power only interested in global development is the work of an paid propogandist , not an impartial writer

    You are just repeating Western misinformation (propaganda). Supporting allies (countries with adjacent borders) with weapons is NOT war. Border disputes is NOT War. Just like the current Russian SMO is NOT war otherwise the Russians would just BOMB Kiev and other centers of command to smithereens.

    China had a border conflict (3 weeks) with Vietnam in 1979 because Cambodia was invaded.

    The Korean war was a Civil War. China and USSR supported the North and USA and West supported the South. China has a border with North Korea. America is 6000 miles away from South Korea.

    Whitney’s graph is correct. China has “initiated” ZERO wars.

    • Agree: unzrocks, Sarah
    • Replies: @Shitposter_in Chief
  119. eah says:
    @Ron Unz

    … Without doubt, America’s great success despite its multiplicity of ethnic nationalities is almost unique in modern human history. But such success should not be taken for granted.

    Maybe not really (‘despite …’): the capital of civilization (universities, governing institutions, etc) that sustains the US today was largely created when the country was 90+% white (the situation is similar in South Africa).

    It can be reasonably suggested (e.g. as it was by Putnam), perhaps even argued, that more than anything America’s ‘multiplicity of ethnic nationalities’ has destroyed social capital in the US, because given the success of previous generations of Whites in creating the capital of civilization all Americans benefit from today, there is no reason to believe this would not have continued in the future without a ‘multiplicity of ethnic nationalities’.

    • Agree: Sarah
    • Replies: @Alrenous
  120. Here’s the real way capitalism works. They don’t tell you this in economics school. It is all a crooked scam:

    https://off-guardian.org/2023/03/02/western-oligarchy/

  121. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @eudion2

    Most of the evil you lay at the feet of Christianity was “Jews” (satanic golden calf Hebrews and Semites purged by Moses) sabotaging Christendom from within. Moses was trying to deliver the Ten Commandments and build a nation; they were alchemists, deviants, back-biters, grifters, loafers, rabble, parasites who couldn’t even toe the line for 5 minutes. They were the pre-incarnation of the “synagogue of Satan” you so blithely dismiss, which spilled into the Roman Empire when Jerusalem fell and putrefied it, even as Christendom was trying to reform it.

    They’ve done their worst all the way through, and are still doing their worst. In this epoch alone: “Jewish Century” Marxist-Zionist intrigue, warmongering and mass murder, “Holocaust” grift; neoconservatism, 9/11 inside job+Mideast wars, Covid19/”vaccine” scam, ((Zelensky)) Ukraine war scam, Nord Stream terror attack…

    Zionist clowns like Glenn Beck? Rothschild-Cousinhood-Soros stooges. Years ago, back when Glenn Beck started sniffing around Soros, Fox News quickly jerked his chain and brought him into line. He’s been a ((Jew)) stooge ever since. Just like Sean Hannity, just like the neoconned GOP, just like the “liberal” totalitarian Hollywood/Wall Street/MSM/Big Tech axis.

    So false “Christians,” half-baked “Christians” and ((Jew)) + stooge sabotage have prevented Moses-Christianity from achieving its true destiny, which I believe can only be achieved with another massive purge of parasites — something their profiteering shyster and grifter and organized crime confederates and co-dependents are desperately trying to stop.

    They can’t hold back history, but only delay the inevitable reckoning. The clock is ticking louder and louder the back of their increasingly mad brains, and they’re making mistake after mistake.

    The God of Moses and Jesus always said this day would come, and indeed it has.

    • LOL: RoatanBill
  122. Munga Bulga [AKA "HeebHunter"] says:
    @nsa

    The Negro-Saxon have always been the alien, the invaders and (((schemers))). The end of history is when these Sub-Human, kike loving island monkeys spend their well-deserved eternity in hell.

  123. @Anon

    Because “GDP” is the most bullshit statistic ever created.

  124. @TheTrumanShow

    … the plan for the whole world. Keep them barefoot and ignorant.

  125. @Notsofast

    Over 20% of Russians don’t have indoor plumbing and Russians are poorer than the denizens of shitholes like Romania or Hungary. So much for muh economic success and oligarchs being kept in check, the latter being just stupid fanfic of vatniks. The reason that Russia was in the toilet in the 90s and wasn’t during Putin’s first years is the price of oil being 2-3 times higher during Putin (which matters due to Russia’s economy being a large gas station).

    • Replies: @Notsofast
    , @Vidi
  126. P.T. says:

    Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan need to arm themselves with nuclear weapons. They could quickly do so and quit relying on the United States to defend them against Communist aggression.
    lll

    • Agree: Malla
    • Replies: @showmethereal
    , @d dan
  127. anonomous says:
    @anonymous

    US companies that moved their businesses to China are making money off many of the same people they laid off in order to generate bigger profits.

    These companies are part of the global Oligarch plan to weaken every nation in the world so that the global corporations can rape everyone all of the time without interference. Just looked at webnair on how the Kiev government destroyed Ukraine, long before Russian invasion.

    I remember meeting with the head of one of those departing divisions of a major global companies in the 1990s.. He did not care that the city folks that meet with him were willing to guarantee his losses he was going to China because he said his clan leaders had told him to go. How many more folk have experience similar conversations?

    Several synthetic fiber companies shut down their American operations and licenced the process to make the fiber to foreign companies. Jobs, technology, known how and profits were exported. at the expense of the Americans who had to find new jobs.

    Would it be useful to make a list and to check it twice, and to deny the products of those corporations on that list to be sold in the USA governed America? SUCH a policy might bring them home?

    Is loss of industrial America a result a policy of Zionism or is there some other cause?

    • Replies: @John Roberts
  128. Munga Bulga [AKA "Global Madness"] says:

    Putin is now also having naval maneuvers held off SA’s coast. I strongly suspect that the bad situation of the whites in that country has nothing to do with it. https://www.ft.com/content/02085c6c-7ae5-4dd0-817d-7ce3f49ea303

  129. bjondo [AKA "wormssnakesbrain"] says:
    @Tallest Skil

    No genocide in/of Tibet nor Uyghurs. Tibet liberated and given freedom
    from a brutal, stone age elite and the CIA.

    Most would choose Beijing over CIA/DC/London.

    • Agree: dogbumbreath, Sarah
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @KA
  130. GDP has nothing to do with capitalism. Trying to blame capitalism for the misconduct and incorrect rating agency assessments has nothing to do with the capitalist model. All of that are signs that capitalism is being avoided.

  131. Anon[104] • Disclaimer says:

    This article makes no sense. If the main engines of China’s growth are American multinational corporations that relocated there, how have the Chinese people benefited? And why do these multinationals want a war that will disrupt their profit-making?

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
  132. PUTINFAN says:
    @Franz

    Those of you who talk of real economies are talking in todays’ terms. What is much more important is the total value of all aspects of each economy in todays and future terms. This includes the net present value of assets and liabilities, and of EXTREME, EXTREME importance the value of minerals in the ground, the value of the soil for farming (spent or rich)., timber etc. The list goes on. Over regulation has a determinable negative valuation.

    Now in my opinión Russia has a net worth 10 to 20 times that of the USA. It is irrelevant that today, 2023, Russia chooses not to turn their net worth into usable cash. That just gives them more cash in the future.

    Russia has always under reported their current income to world authorities. They are a VERY secretive society, always have been, always will be. My educated guess is that their GDP is twice what they report and their proven mineral reserves are certainly 3 or 4 times what they report.

    DO YOU TELL YOUR NEIGHBOR YOUR CASH IN THE BANK?
    YOUR GOLD BARS IN THE BASEMENT?

    • Replies: @Franz
    , @Truth Vigilante
  133. @Anon

    Man does not live by Chinese widgets alone.

    Another myth is that governments can’t create wealth, only distribute it.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  134. Anon[338] • Disclaimer says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Debt is good. Debt is the lifeblood of a modern econmy. It does not have to, and should never be, paid off.

  135. @The Company

    China is at the epicentre of the coming demographic winter

    China is in a much better demographic position than the USA or Europe are. A declining population is not nearly as harmful as an Africanizing population.

    • Agree: Sarah
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  136. @meamjojo

    Nothing in this post is true at all.

    • Replies: @meamjojo
  137. Avery says:

    {It would be far better for the world if China was allowed to move ahead with its massive global-integration project without the threat of US intervention, meddling or violence.} [MIKE WHITNEY]

    Who is going to NOT allow it?
    What ‘world’?
    The GloboSorosaWest?

    They don’t have the means: China and Russia together are too powerful for the Western SorosaGangsters to stop. They can make all sorts of troubles, but both China and Russia have been preparing for it for a very long time.
    Russia has already demonstrated that it is immune to all the tools US/West used to use to crush little countries that would not submit to its Imperial Dictats.

    The only fly in the ointment is if the GloboSorsaWest, drunk with their imagery power and Manifest Destiny, miscalculate horribly, and unintentionally or otherwise, push it to a nuclear confrontation.

    In that case, it doesn’t matter, because not many humans will remain.
    And the ones who remain will only worry about not starving or freezing to death.

  138. Carolyn Bartholomew in The American Prospect:

    China policy has, over the past two decades, been driven by the interests of the multinational corporations, and those global firms have benefited from many of China’s policies. Starting several decades ago, it was a handful of the exporting elite — Boeing, Motorola, and GE among them — who argued persuasively to the Bush, Clinton, and Bush administrations that U.S. economic interests would be served if only these companies had access to the Chinese consumer…… Today, of course, we see the result of that sort of thinking. With the global economic crisis, American workers have ended up without jobs and without pension funds.

    https://prospect.org/special-report/great-industrial-wall-china/

    I say:

    The JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire has been in bed with the various ruling classes of China for well over a hundred years. The JEW/ENGLISH Ruling Class of the English Empire got the Chinks hooked on drugs.

    The rancid scumbags in the Republican Party and the vile treasonites in the Democrat Party are both in bed with the Chinese Communist Party.

    Republican Party TREASONOUS RATS like those in the Cheney Organized Crime Syndicate are actively conspiring and colluding with the Chinese Communist Party. Thankfully, that Cheney Rat Spawn Treasonite, Liz Cheney, was recently removed from the US House.

    I talked to Dick Cheney in April of 2001 about why US military officers were leaving the military.

    I brought up the collusion of the American Empire’s ruling class with the ruling class of China.

    I told Dick Cheney that the post-1965 generation of army officers were leaving the US military because of their revulsion at the Baby Boomer leadership of the US military and their revulsion at the transnational elite.

    Rough partial transcript of Charles Pewitt speaking to Cheney:

    The transnational elite — people like the Bush family and the Cheneys — who benefit immensely from having all their commercial enterprises protected in places like Kosovo — in fact that was a commercial enterprise created for people like Mr. Cheney to benefit from.

    And also the China trade, which we saw both parties were bought and paid for by the corporate interests solely so companies like General Electric, Honeywell and Lockheed could not only sell rocket technology to the Chinese Army but also the huge cheap labor market…

    Pewitt talks to Cheney on Diane Rehm radio show, relevant portion starts at 27:45:

    https://dianerehm.org/shows/2001-04-11/vice-president-dick-cheney

    • Replies: @Mehool Mehta
  139. KA says:

    Today BBC was reacting to a finding by the science and technology world that China was ahead of US in 36 out of 41 fields while discussing the findings with an Australian professor .
    BBC guy then asked if China has been trying to master the excellence so that it could be recognized as a world power .

    In 2021 BBC was interviewing a woman sin China who had received Chinese Covid vaccine . The persons asked the lady if she took it because of force , pressure or because of national pride .

    • LOL: niceland
  140. Ross23 says:

    If China has any intelligence they’ll ignore all US Taiwan provocations until they are of sufficient strength to ignore them completely.

    They’ve lasted this long they can last another 15-20 years.

    The old Chinese saying waiting by the river for the bodies of your enemies to float by comes to mind.

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @littlereddot
  141. KA says:
    @bjondo

    Yes . It is just a tool that has been used in Iraq in Syria in Libya . But the rust is too deep and has been peeling away with no core stuff left .

  142. Avery says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    { The US ‘economy’ is heavily financialised as well.}

    US GDP includes all sorts of ‘vaporware’.
    For example, sales of Facebook are added to the GDP.
    Facebook produces NOTHING: it’s all fake money.
    For example, Boeing produces wealth by creating useful products.
    Microsoft produces wealth by creating useful products that improve productivity.
    Facebook produces nothing.
    It’s actually a negative, because millions of people spend large chunks of their waking hours wasting their lives away on BullS____.

    Chinese are working like bees — day and night — producing stuff we buy and use every day. We buy the stuff by printing dollars.
    And foreign countries have figured it out, and are gradually de-dollarizing.

    US government includes all these fake billions in its GDP, to create the illusion that our GPD is very large. We are living on the fat of the enormous wealth created by previous US generations.
    And its being pissed away in places like Ukraine.

    • Agree: Decoy
  143. @Anon

    This article makes no sense. If the main engines of China’s growth are American multinational corporations that relocated there, how have the Chinese people benefited? And why do these multinationals want a war that will disrupt their profit-making?

    Growth in China was not 100% dependent on US multinationals (more propaganda). Prior to China entering WTO in 2001, American policy was to boycott China due to Tiananmen Square protests (CIA attempted color revolution within China for regime change). The bulk of the investment in China prior to 2001 was from Asia and Europe. The key to any countries “internal” success is to try and achieve full employment, Sovereign Credit and re-investment of knowledge and profits into the country. American investment obviously helped with 2 out of 3. You don’t need special mental skills to see how China’s growth has benefited the common person between 1990 and now:

    Video Link
    As per Prof. Michael Hudson, when the State builds and constantly upgrades basic infrastructure, this drives down the cost of doing business for the common man. Lower costs mean more profits in the peoples pocket to spend on leisure. For example, prior to Covid, over 150 million Chinese travelled abroad. China is the largest consumer of high end goods.

    Not ALL multi-nationals want war with China. Just like not ALL German multinationals want to boycot Russian energy….just more propaganda. We call the group that wants to enslave the World with war, the “Deep State”, Anglo/Zio Globalist.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  144. @dogbumbreath

    Yes, one of the big differences between Japan and China is that China is a sovereign country, while Japan is America’s foot stool. The USA threw a wrench into the Japanese economy on purpose (and, ironically, the shift of American capital to China was part of that wrench), but they cannot do the same to China.

    • Thanks: Sarah
  145. @Agent76

    In this episode of China Uncensored, we look at the growth in Chinese car exports, why Chinese cars could be a national security threat, and how one UK government vehicle has already been found to be spying for China.

    China Uncensored is a “Anti-China” channel. It’s like listening to and trusting the opinions of Russians and Russia by the Neo-Nazi regime (i.e. Svoboda Party) in Kiev, Ukraine.

  146. unzrocks says:
    @Tranceislife

    China and Russia and Iran all have RED LINES in their respective backyard (meaning their next door neighbors). The US has RED LINES on the entire planet earth (meaning they make the rules that everyone else must follow). Who’s the war mongering here? Who’s the hegemon here? Who’s the trouble maker here? It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.

    • Agree: Sarah
  147. Levtraro says:

    Naturally, the financialization of the US economy has greatly impacted America’s prospects for the future.

    Good article overall because yes, the ultimate cause of the current situation is the economic mismanagement of USA elites over the last 4 decades.

    But you miss the deepest reason for all these developments. You just skim the surface.

    Financialization, de-industrilization and offshoring, indebtness, stagnant wages, growing economic inequality, unfettered immigration, globalization, are all policies dictated by an ideology that took over USA elites in the 70s.

    This ideology is neo-liberalism. Its central tenet is that the State must actively help the rich and was championed by a few Jewish economists before becoming mainstream, most notably Milton Friedman.

    At the start of the neo-liberal takeover, the USA was the largest creditor of the world. The USA position as creditor was so large in 1980, that it was larger that the creditor position of ALL other countries of the world combined. I think that never has any nation had such a solid economic position.

    Sadly, a few years later when neo-liberal policies were fully implemented, by the mid 90s, the USA has turned into the largest debtor nation of the world and its position has only worsened ever since, with the new century bringing about the worst threat, second only to nuclear war: de-dollarization.

    Neo-liberal policies are so stupid that USA elites promoted the integration of China into the WTO in 2001. That was monumentally moronic, even more stupid than the Japanese signing their arrested development at the Plaza Accords in 1985.

    The loss of Americans was the gain of the Chinese (and the Russians and many others) which were able to elevate 400 millions from proverty to middle-class in a few decades (making the CPC the most deserving of The Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel, lol!, they took long to insert Nobel in that name).

    Sure, given the central tenet of the neo-liberal ideology, the American rich and their owned politicians (Gilens and Page, 2014, https://doi.org/10.1017/S1537592714001595) prospered, by they did this by squandering the great advantages of their nation.

    But I think America will recover, after further pain no doubt, but recover it will, to a different world though.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  148. anon[104] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s just a matter of time before the US starts bombing BRI infrastructure the same way we bombed the Nordstream pipeline. This country is run by thugs of the lowest order. Even now we are actively trying to prevent all Arab countries from helping Syria as they try to recover from a devastating earthquake.

    There is now a new bi-partisan committee in congress formed specifically to look into all our policies related to China. Hate on China is the glue that unites both parties atm. Even self-proclaimed anti-war Republicans like Josh Hawley is a China hawk. We can be sure that all GOP candidates for 2024 will be 100% China hawks, starting with the GOP equivalent of Hilary Clinton – bomb throwing Jew puppet Nikki Haley, to Ron DeSantis, Tom Cotton, that self-proclaimed anti-woke Indian Vivek Ramaswamy, and of course, Trump. When the GOP “anti-war” faction wants out of Ukraine, all they mean is they want us to go to war with China instead.

    When searching for enemies, America only needs to look itself in the mirror. Our greatest enemy is our own government, MIC, media, and the class of crony capitalists on Wall Street. If Russia were to drop a nuclear bomb on DC, NYC, SV and Hollywood tomorrow, they’d be doing the whole country and the whole world a favor.

  149. Protogonus says: • Website

    Whitney’s nation-based geopolitical assessment is secular and reasonable. But the actual enemy of ordinary Mankind is, however, a mere TRIBE, a genocidal maniac motivated by bizarre sectarian beliefs, long hidden and working behind the scenes, now suddenly possessed and certain of its imminent victory. The proof is laid out here and will be quite acceptable to Unz.Com readers:

    https://www.academia.edu/76372363/To_Sevastopol_With_Love

    What this monstrous enemy of the Nations of Mankind does is simple but effective: it plays one giant (currently America) against the other (currently China and Russia) to traduce and reduce each to mere quantities without self-direction, once the key events are managed and orchestrated. It has centuries of successful experience doing this and will never stop unless exposed and isolated. Simple, eh?

    Note that to read the article simply SCROLL DOWN; no sign-in or sign-on is necessary. Thanks.

  150. @unzrocks

    >>it’s not genocide since they aren’t mass murdering Tibetans

    Get the fuck out of here, kike apologist. You’re literally claiming white genocide isn’t occurring. Do you think anyone’s going to fall for that shit? Here? Come the fuck on. This pilpul isn’t going to fly.

    https://archive.fo/9lRJq

    • Replies: @unzrocks
    , @迪路
  151. China could retaliate against American provocations in Taiwan. They could secretly fund a Puerto Rican Independence movement. PLEASE DO IT!

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  152. @SoUtH

    Dude hugs mom more than wife.

  153. Notsofast says:
    @putinandhisfansaremorons

    and you’re talking about suicide nets around apple factories, that so abuse their employees, that they want to take their own lives. that’s on apple but the chinese do deserve some blame for allowing apple to circumvent their labor laws, maybe that will change when the idiots try to impose more illegal sanctions on china

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
  154. Notsofast says:
    @putinandhisfansaremorons

    you shithead trolls seem to be fixated on toilets, and your bullshit example of american toilet supremacy. realize that russia spans 11 time zones and much of it is rural and when the shit hits the fan, your hypersonic toilets won’t work without water you idiot. the russians are far better prepared to survive the nuclear holocaust you zioneocon pinheads are hell bent on unleashing, be careful what you ask for.

  155. @Folkvangr

    It looks like you are in Ukraine. I am only curious about how your 20 thousand surrounded soldiers In Kherson doing.
    I think they are getting hungry.

    • Replies: @Folkvangr
  156. unzrocks says:
    @Tallest Skil

    Watch your language. Maybe I should start curse words right back at you. Grow up and get some manners and use some professionalism in your response. You will learn how to debate better. I recall mass murders of Native Indigenous Indians (NOW THIS IS GENOCIDE where more than 90% of the population were wiped out) living on the continental United States of America for 10,000 thousand years when the European settlers came over starting with Christopher Columbus. There’s no mass genocide of Tibetans, 80% or more of them are still alive since the Chinese invasion / annexation.

  157. People like this should be put in military gear and sent to the front lines of Ukraine.
    But they just shill for Zion and win prizes as the insipid ‘ruling class’. And we thought the old aristocracy was vapid.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
  158. @anonymous

    I think you might be right. Somebody has to fight Israel’s enemies for them 😉 kek

  159. @Chris Moore

    @chris moore, christian resistance?

    You mean against Aryan civilization.

    Glad to see you openly admit christ-rats like you took down the Roman Empire.

    You worship a jew & demand all Aryans do the same.

    You dare to present yourselves as “anti jewish” (which you traitors call “satan/ic”)

    Then you act perplexed as to why you’re dominated by jews

    YOU WORSHIP A FRIGGIN JEW RABBI THAT NEVER EXISTED IRL & YOU’RE TRYING TO IMPOSE A DEATH CULT FROM JUDEA, YOU PSYCHOTIC COWARD

    You dont give a damn about protecting Aryan people. If you did, you’d refrain from promoting a jewish death cult & cease celebrating how that jewish death cult destroyed Aryan Rome. It festered in the sewers for decades, centuries.

    (((christ-treason))) is the foundation of all jewish subversion, which you claim to oppose. (((Islam))) is built atop that foundation. christ-faggotry has always been the #1 enabler/conspirator of jewry.

    Virtually all the “German resistance” who decisively won the war for jews were explicitly motivated to commit their treason by their allegiance to (((rabbi jesus the jew & his daddy volcano demon jewhovah)))

    You worship a damn jew & present yourself as anti jewish. no actual drug comes close to frying the Aryan male’s mind & rotting his soul like (((christianity))). Start looking at yourself in the damn mirror. You’re lying to yourself & lying to everyone, but chumps like you dont mind. Goes with the territory. Its all kewl if it helps strengthen the death cult from judea that you claim is gonna save us from jews.

    You are further proof that the absolute worst thing that ever happened to the white Aryan man was the forced imposition of christianity.

    Fuck off to “your” jewish church & leave racialism to non-christian &/or fully anti christian Aryan men. You cannot successfully bow & cry & whip yourself as the mean “original sinner” while wanting to suck off rabbi jesus & simultaneously resist jewish influence/tyranny. You cannot be pro-Aryan.

  160. @Folkvangr

    Ron really needs to add a “Wazzock” button. “Troll” just doesn’t have enough implication of stupidity.

    • Replies: @Folkvangr
  161. Zane says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Once again you demonstrate what an utter and complete twit you are. Carry on, McFool.

  162. @Anon

    As the Chinese academic’s wife said to the Cambridge academic’s wife:


    “I can’t understand how you are so rich. Where are all your factories?”

  163. Zane says:
    @dogbumbreath

    I have a feeling the yuan is headed down the gurgler. No communist dictatorship has ever created a hard currency. Capital leaves China for safer shores. Yep, that means the West.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
    , @dogbumbreath
  164. @Zane

    China’s economic collapse is long aborning:
    1990. China’s economy has come to a halt. The Economist
    1996. China’s economy will face a hard landing. The Economist
    1998. China’s economy’s dangerous period of sluggish growth. The Economist
    1999. Likelihood of a hard landing for the Chinese economy. Bank of Canada
    2000. China currency move nails hard landing risk coffin. Chicago Tribune
    2001. A hard landing in China. Wilbanks, Smith & Thomas
    2002. China Seeks a Soft Economic Landing. Westchester University
    2003. Banking crisis imperils China. New York Times
    2004. The great fall of China? The Economist
    2005. The Risk of a Hard Landing in China. Nouriel Roubini
    2006. Can China Achieve a Soft Landing? International Economy
    2007. Can China avoid a hard landing? TIME
    2008. Hard Landing In China? Forbes
    2009. China’s hard landing. China must find a way to recover. Fortune
    2010: Hard landing coming in China. Nouriel Roubini
    2011: Chinese Hard Landing Closer Than You Think. Business Insider
    2012: Economic News from China: Hard Landing. American Interest 
    2013: A Hard Landing In China. Zero Hedge 
    2014. A hard landing in China. CNBC
    2015. Congratulations, You Got Yourself A Chinese Hard Landing. Forbes 
    2016. Hard landing looms for China. The Economist
    2017. Is China’s Economy Going To Crash? National Interest
    2018. China’s Coming Financial Meltdown. The Daily Reckoning.
    2019 China’s Economic Slowdown: How worried should we be? BBC2020. Coronavirus Could End China’s Decades-Long Economic Growth Streak. NY Times
    2021 Chinese economy risks deeper slowdown than markets realize. Bloomberg
    2022. China Surprise Data Could Spell R-e-c-e-s-s-i-o-n. Bloomberg.

  165. @Hulkamania

    “China is in a much better demographic position than the USA or Europe are. A declining population is not nearly as harmful as an Africanizing population.”

    If warm bodies were all there was to it, Africa would dominate the globe now. Nigeria, Congo, even Burkina Faso would be major powers.

  166. Zane says:
    @Deep Thought

    Oh that comment shows real understanding of China’s macroeconomic dilemma, lol. Share more, guru, please! 😄

  167. @phil

    China’s average living standards may eventually approach those in Western countries?
    China’s QOL is already higher than America’s and, probably, most of Europe’s.
    For example, there are more incarcerated people, hungry children, drug addicts, poor, suicides, executions, and illiterate, homeless Americans than Chinese.

    P.S. As to “Starvation became a thing of the past in 1978, when Capitalism arrived”? Starvation became a thing of the past after 1950. There was widespread hunger during the El Nino of 1959-62 (which also halved Canada’s prairie wheat crop) and the hunger was exacerbated by America’s grain embargo. But nobody starved to death as they did in their millions during the capitalist famines in Ireland and Bengal.

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @phil
  168. Vidi says:
    @putinandhisfansaremorons

    Over 20% of Russians don’t have indoor plumbing

    Thanks for another dose of propaganda. According to an article in the pro-Western Moscow Times (link), probably the source of your claim, “Of the 22.6 percent of households without a centralized sewage system, 16.8 percent use a system of pipes connected to pit toilets, RBC cited the State Statistics Service, Rosstat, as saying.”

    In other words, 16.8 percent of Russian households use septic tanks — about the same as the US, which is 20 percent according to The Atlantic (link).

    So Russia’s sanitation level is about the same as the US — and, yes, both need serious improvement. But of course Western propaganda uses some deceptive language to make the Russians seem much worse.

    • Agree: Notsofast
    • Replies: @Alrenous
    , @Mary Marianne
  169. Folkvangr says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Ron really needs to add a “Wazzock” button.

    How about “YetAnotherAnon” button, Mr/Ms 6G-ready Macrochip?

  170. Robertjb says: • Website

    This article should be on the front page of every western newspaper, Thank you Mike Whitney!!!

  171. Folkvangr says:
    @Zarathustra

    I am only curious about how your 20 thousand surrounded soldiers In Kherson doing.

    They told me there will be another drone attack on Moscow/SP/Voronezh/Kursk/Belgorod/Stalingrad and Muchosranks tonight. NO TV for you 2night, vatniki! lol

  172. @Anon

    The financial sector extracts wealth. The service sector can produce real wealth in the form of design, innovation, improvement of business processes etc.

    • Replies: @Anon
  173. map says:
    @eudion2

    No, not Christianity.

    The problems are caused by the Enlightenment and the Reformation.

    The Enlightenment allowed blasphemy against Christianity to take hold and the Reformation was the Judaizing heresy of Christianity.

    That’s why 300 years after these ideas took hold civilization is now collapsing.

  174. @Zane

    Sorry. You are incorrect. China has Communist dictatorship with free market economy.
    Precisely like US.
    US has Jewish dictatorship with free marked economy.
    Russia has nationalist dictatorship with free marked economy. But only from time of Putin.
    Ukraine has Jewish dictatorship with no economy.

    • Replies: @24th Alabama
    , @Folkvangr
  175. Folkvangr says:
    @Wokechoke

    Hey, robot, do you really have to rain on my parade THAT much? Thank God there are still people who can enjoy life and music outside of your primitive matrix. Looks like somebody needs to get a life here first. lol

  176. @Anon

    Veterans Today is not a reliable source.

  177. anonymous[239] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franz

    I don’t think the beneficiaries of (essentially) free money on Wall Street—the traders, etc—think of themselves as selling out anyone, but the more important point is that I doubt they could care less about their fellow Americans.

    Where are you from? If you’re from, say, Scarsdale, New Canaan, Darien, Manhasset, etc, you’ll see them cruising around town on Sunday morning in their Porsche convertibles wearing a dusty pink baseball cap—the de rigueur simulacrum for a propeller beanie embroidered with “I went to B school.” They’re not going to church, of course, but going to the bagel shop, which serves nicely as a token acknowledgement of their owing everything they have to the slobber-lipped, American-hating Jews they work for.

    • Replies: @Franz
  178. @PsychelonB

    I think you covered all the bases there nicely.
    Thanks

  179. @Zane

    I have a feeling the yuan is headed down the gurgler. No communist dictatorship has ever created a hard currency. Capital leaves China for safer shores. Yep, that means the West.

    Living under a rock for the last year or Trolling? The moment the USA (West) illegally confiscated Russian assets overseas was the moment the “reat of the World” knew without doubt (100%) there Capital was NOT safe. Prior, some Countries still believed their Capital “might be safe” when the USA seized Venezuela’s, Libya’s and Iraq’s (to name a recent few) Gold and Reserves illegally but that myth has been erased from the hard drive permanently.

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Zane
  180. Joe825 says:

    China is a demographic train wreck beyond anything the world has ever seen. This piece reminds me of the hand-wringing about Japan and how they were going to take over the world. Then the consequences of an extreme culture that killed the birth rate kicked in and nobody worries about them anymore. China will be a more extreme version of that.

  181. Sarita says:

    Hi sir, friends here at unz.com,
    I’m trying to find out more about the Bretton Woods conference and accords and the creation of the IMF and the World Bank.
    President Nixon dumped the accords in 1971 and therefore the us dollar doesn’t have to have a gold relation or back-up.
    The question is, and I read that here at unz.com but can’t find it, is it true a hundred dollars bill costs the US 17 cents and also that they can print as many dollars as they want?
    And if true, why does the rest of the world accept this ?
    Thankyou.

  182. JWalters says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Also, better to be ruled by Confucius than the Talmud.

  183. @littlereddot

    Nukes works both ways. They will protect USA from any humiliation. Taiwanese and Japanese would be the ones doing the dying. USA at worst would be reduce to a regional power.

  184. Decoy says:
    @meamjojo

    “Perhaps not if we stop rampant Chinese IP theft and restrict their access to the latest computer chips”

    China is about 4 times larger in population than the US, but China graduates 8 times the number of STEM grads. I agree with you that China was guilty of IP theft but that was then and the new reality is that they no longer need to steal from us, they can innovate on their own.

    Even Russia which has less than half our population has STEM graduates equal to 90% of ours.
    And if you take out the number of Chinese nationalists in our number, the percentages get worse.

    Like it or not our education system has been in decline for 40 years and China and Russia have been improving. STEM grads are our future and on that basis both China and Russia have better futures than we do. We still attract talent from around the world but at some point in the future that talent is going to prefer China and Russia vs us. I was an accountant before I retired and I made a contribution to society but STEM graduates are much more valuable than accountants, bankers, etc.

    We are falling behind and we are a long way from the bottom.

    • Agree: showmethereal
    • Replies: @meamjojo
  185. JWalters says:
    @anonymous

    I dunno. Israel would have to be the proxy doing the fighting, and the Zionist banker running the US don’t want Israel to stub its toe. So if there’s a proxy war, the US will be Israel’s proxy. Again.

    • Agree: Notsofast
  186. Metropole says:

    Around 18 years years ago I went to China on a business trip and visited several cities. Even then Chinese cities seemed very well developed, and today they would be a lot better.

    When I flew back from Shanghai to San Francisco two things struck me the most. One was that US architecture seemed very old fashioned compared to the futuristic architecture in China. The second thing that I noticed was how fat everybody was compared to the Chinese. My colleague also noticed it and commented that fatness is the wrath of god on America.

    So there you have it. While everyone is looking around everywhere to figure out how America will go down they’ve missed the real punishment that is creeping up insidiously. Fatness.

    Apart from all the other ways Jews have abused Americans, making them the fattest people on earth was their biggest crime.

    • LOL: Sarita
  187. @Joe825

    Wishful thinking by yet another shit-scared racist.

    • Replies: @Joe825
  188. @John1955

    Mao’s bold declaration that China would surpass the UK and match the US in steel production has been fulfilled and then some.

    • Replies: @John1955
  189. @Godfree Roberts

    It’s called ‘wishful thinking’. The race and civilizational traitor (in fact a traitor to humanity when you think of it)Gordon Chang has been making money from predicting China’s ‘collapse’ for at least twenty years, and the utterly deranged Peter Zeihan is tilling the same field. I have not seen a positive story regarding China in the local MSM for at least forty years, if ever, and lately the coverage has been far beyond deranged in its hatred and mendacity.
    Westerners do not comprehend reality any more, not with Wokeism, ‘transgenderism’, drugs, CGI, the metaverse and ‘Deep Fakes’ doing their minds in. China wins because its population is still sane.

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @JR Foley
    , @Godfree Roberts
  190. @PsychelonB

    Stuff you ‘Aryan’ Johnny-come-latelies. We Hyperboreans are the true Master Race. We wipe our boots on Aryans!

  191. US has Ponzi style economy which depends on on borrowing money.
    Nice Jewish lady is running it. She sells Government certificates (bonds) She decides the interest on the bonds . Bonds have maturity date.
    US did sell so many bonds that they would fill the hall of congress.

    So how this Ponzi scheme collapses.
    Purchasing power of Dollar continuously declines.
    So when the buyer finds out at the time of maturity of the bond that even with yield he buys less
    than if he would buy at the time of purchase of bond he will not buy anymore bonds.
    And the Financial system is kaput.

    • Agree: JR Foley
  192. KA says:
    @Sarita

    Think of gold as example–but think it can be extracted at will from the ground for ever . No shelf life. No expiration. and at no cost of extraction . Also no cost to chisell it ino any shape ,any sizes, and any weight. In addition gold isnt found or digged up anywhere outisde US.Then think that any gold found outside is a counterfeit and US will seize the gold and sanction the country .

    It is also baked in the American pie ,that any inetrnational buying or selling has to be in Gold . No way out .Then thsoe golds used in transcation has to pass through US gold -mining bank .
    The golds accumualted by other countries cant be kept in its bank .It has to be kept in US or got rid of – be always in circulation outisde nation and only internatioanl,y.

    That’s what the fiat curency – dollar – has morphed to.
    A taxation on the rest of the world
    War against Iraq was fianced by non -American labor and commodity through this printed gold .
    Because Iraq also needed same GOLD and paid for it by labors and commodities. you can say Iraq paid for its own destruction.

    • Thanks: Sarita
  193. Richard B says:
    @michael droy

    After years of shifting its industries to low-wage locations around the world (like China), the US finds itself steadliy losing market-share to a faster-growing and more resourceful China.

    It’s very odd and a little suspicious that he didn’t include China in the first clause of the above sentence. He should have. China fast growth is a consequence, arguably the most important, of the hostile elite having exported a huge chunk of the US economy there.

    By most estimates, China’s economy will overtake the United States by 2035 at which point, Beijing will be in a much better position to shape international trade relations in a way that promotes its own interests. With growth, comes power, and that rule will certainly apply to China as well.

    With growth, comes power, and with power comes the exhausting task and often unrewarding responsibility of social management. Understandably, given the enorous responsibility that comes with that kind of power, promoting their own interests will be only focus.

    And you think the international scene is complex now? The irony of China being forced to simplify things for themselves will make that situation even more complex. One thing is for sure, the West has trained itself to avoid complexity at all costs. That being the case, it’s hard to see how it’ll have much of a future.

    And now we’re back to why the hostile elite exported the US enconomy to China.

  194. Ennui says:
    @putinandhisfansaremorons

    Are you one of those weirdo Nord pagans? Genuinely curious, how many of you NAFO basement dwellers like to larp as Odinists? When I think of your ilk, I always picture some narrow shouldered, non-descript 20 something dude with a weird, hard to place European accent who would normally be making Youtube videos about games. It’s like they grow you fellas in pods.

  195. JR Foley says:
    @phil

    Read History and you will find 5 times China was #1 economy and society —-

    • Replies: @phil
  196. Sarita says:
    @putinandhisfansaremorons

    Dear sir,
    Don’t you think it is now tine for Chechens to finally get a free country?
    I know, of course that the first step should be to catch Ramzan Akhmadovich, the snitch and traitor, castrate him and hung him next to Vladimir Putin, Medvedev and that other retard looking and main moron, Lavrov (or whatever his name is).
    Or maybe they should just wait a little longer until Ukraine gets the 5000 drones that are about to be ready in Tel Aviv?

    (It’s for homework)

    Spasibo.

  197. @eudion2

    Please tell us a few specifics regarding Paul’s money-grubbing. Give us the known details, references, regarding a few cases.

  198. JR Foley says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Gordon Chang –what a loser –sorry Loser. This guy has been on FOX for 10-20 years –BUT –every forecast and doom prediction regarding China —has never come true or in other words- Failed. Gordon Chang —–can he speak Mandarin or is this another big untruth?

    Gordon Chang missed his calling. Earlier times he could have been substituting for Bullwinkle on “Rocky and His Friends ” cartoon series and failing to pull a rabbit out of his hat.

    Alternatively —been a referee in Vince McMahon’s WWF —count to 3 or better yet —disqualify the wrong wrestler –in the squared circle !!!

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
  199. JR Foley says:
    @Joe825

    How are Larry and Shemp doing ?

  200. @Sarita

    The question is, and I read that here at unz.com but can’t find it, is it true a hundred dollars bill costs the US 17 cents and also that they can print as many dollars as they want?
    And if true, why does the rest of the world accept this ?

    Since computers and digital banking became ubiquitous, it costs next to nothing to enter some zero’s after a digit to create money. As for the acceptance of the US dollar as Reserve Currency it basically boils down to the 800+ military bases around the World. After WW2, the World needed a new Reserve Currency to rebuild and the old reserve (Pound Sterling) was no longer viable (Britain was in debt due to war). Since America was the largest and only modern industrial economy to profit and not be damaged by WW2, it was the successor of the British Empire (Pound Sterling Reserve). Professor Michael Hudson explains it accurately here:

    • Thanks: Sarita
    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  201. ld says:
    @Chris Moore

    it would be better to fund a working man’s party that encompasses a broad spectrum of American society… people who have been ripped off and are pissed off and feel powerless

    A Chinese Soros to sew seeds and fund anarchy while empowering the average citizen

    talk about revenge

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  202. @Levtraro

    The real enemy is ‘democracy’. Democracy divides societies into mutually hateful, partisan, tribes. The objective of ‘democratic’ politicians is to seize and hold power, not to benefit society. The different parties increasingly refuse to co-operate in any fashion, but oppose EVERYTHING the other side seeks to achieve,
    When ‘democracy’ exists in a capitalist entity, where all real power belongs to the rich, parasitic, owners of the economy, the situation spirals towards self-destruction, through increasing inequality, suppression of labour, incessant brainwashing to believe ludicrous ideological faery stories, worsening informational totalitarianism and foreign aggression to divert the serfs from knowing their fate and destiny. The USA is the prime example, and will remain so as it destroys humanity.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
    , @Levtraro
  203. @JR Foley

    Gordon Chang –what a loser –sorry Loser. This guy has been on FOX for 10-20 years –BUT –every forecast and doom prediction regarding China —has never come true or in other words- Failed. Gordon Chang —–can he speak Mandarin or is this another big untruth?

    Gordon Chang is what dog breeders call a “mutt”. He doesn’t even qualify as a “mixed breed”. His inability to speak any Celtic language or Chinese dialect fluently notwithstanding. These mongrels make perfect traitors.

    MUTT (noun):
    1. a dog, especially a mongrel
    2. a stupid or incompetent person

  204. Franz says:
    @anonymous

    They’re not going to church, of course, but going to the bagel shop, which serves nicely as a token acknowledgement of their owing everything they have to the slobber-lipped, American-hating Jews they work for.

    Good one, and I don’t doubt it.

    Actually the US (and not only us) has an advance parasite economy right now and there is no awareness that nothing’s holding it up. Millions paid to gender-advisors, critical race theorists, etc, all out of corporate funds that are more tenuous than what the Fed prints.

    The collapse of the parasite economy will alert the rest of us that the game is up.

  205. Franz says:
    @PUTINFAN

    Russia has always under reported their current income to world authorities.

    My guess is they compare notes with Japan. Despite their early rocky relations, even the old USSR saw Japan as a uniquely useful partner, though the kept it very discreet. Japan had a “depression” that seems to have been mostly window-dressing for Uncle Sam.

    Japan and Russia both value building and maintaining things. The US has a sub population that finds no discrepancy with century-old rail lines falling to disrepair and shouting “We’re number one!” to the rest of the world, a dangerous case of ignorance.

    • Replies: @PUTINFAN
  206. ld says:
    @Ray Caruso

    Chinese engineering students study all over the world and likely have little need for German expertise.
    I know they come to Canada and our students cannot compete with them in any hard science.
    They used to come here and tray to stay after graduation.
    not anymore… their opportunities are far better in China

    • Replies: @Ray Caruso
  207. @Notsofast

    and you’re talking about suicide nets around apple factories, that so abuse their employees, that they want to take their own lives. that’s on apple but the chinese do deserve some blame for allowing apple to circumvent their labor laws, maybe that will change when the idiots try to impose more illegal sanctions on china

    19 people killed themselves out of 900,000 workers. That’s a suicide rate of .002% or less than the annual “death by falling coconut”. Can’t directly blame Apple or the Central Chinese Government. It was Taiwanese contract manufacturer Foxconn that created the horrible working conditions for it’s employees. Full blame should go to CEO Terry Gou Tai Ming and corrupt local politicians/officials.

    • Thanks: Notsofast
  208. @SoUtH

    Way past time for Pink Mist therapy to be applied to all influential members of the World Extermination Forum. .338 Lapua if .50 BMG or 12.7mm not available.

    • Replies: @SoUtH
  209. Joe Wong says:
    @Folkvangr

    General Matovnikov did naked dancing in bathroom by himself, comparing to Bill Clinton who did 360 degree naked sexual wrestling with Lewinsky in Oval Office in the White House, there is a huge difference.

    What General Matovnikov did in his bathroom is his business, harmless and legal. While what Bill Clinton did was criminal, disgracing the USA’s national honor, obscenity and morally defunct. Yet the Americans covered up for Bill Clinton’s crimes as it has never happened. It shows how morally defunct the Americans are.

    Your Russian bashing only shows that the Americans are doublethink, double standard and morally defunct.

  210. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @PsychelonB

    You are further proof that the absolute worst thing that ever happened to the white Aryan man was the forced imposition of christianity.

    Found the Judeofascist-Zionist. You’re fighting for Comrade ((Zelensky))), right? Enjoying the first skirmishes of WW3 for Marxist-Zionism? WW1 and WW2 didn’t destroy enough of Western Civilization for you, no?

    It’s really a pity Christendom tolerates your kind. In the future, I doubt it will. You just get a lot of Whites killed for no sane reason other than egomania, greed, and mad emperors like Trump-Biden.

  211. Folkvangr says:
    @Zarathustra

    Russia has nationalist dictatorship

    What’s that? Are we supposed to assume that Putin is a nationalist because he says so? Or because all of his oligarchs keep their money in off-shore banks? Or maybe on the grounds of Russia being the most corrupt country in the world?

  212. Zane says:
    @dogbumbreath

    Guess you’ve never heard of ” offshore “. Nobody leaves their wealth in a Chinese or Russian bank account.

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
    , @Barr
  213. Zane says:

    The education system in China is one of parrot learning. And remember the riots at the exam in China when the students weren’t allowed to cheat? Lol, the examiners had to barricade themselves in the room.

    China is way overrated.

    • Agree: meamjojo
    • Replies: @Shitposter_in Chief
    , @eah
  214. bert33 says:

    Borrow another trillion its all good lol

  215. John1955 says:
    @The_Masterwang

    -match the US in steel production-

    Jesus Holy F.. Christ … Some match I might say…

    China’s 1,000+ million metric tons of steel vs US’s 85 million metric tons is like boxing match between 220lbs super heavyweight vs 50lbs featherweight.

    Anyway, my deepest respect to Chinese steelworkers.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @The_Masterwang
  216. @Ron Unz

    We are constantly told that “diversity is our strength” but does any rational person really believe that? Diversity is engendering racial,religious and cultural conflict on an unprecedented scale in the U.S.

    The wealthy elites are above the fray and actually benefit from the chaos that prevents any one group from organizing against them.Massive immigration means more cheap labor to be exploited.

    If and when the entire shit pot explodes they will exit to Monaco,Israel or Switzerland with bullion and cash.The welcome mat is always out if you have money, and they are sure to leave before the bloodbath begins.

    • Agree: SoUtH, Sarah
  217. 迪路 says:
    @Tallest Skil

    I’m Chinese, so what I say is actually more convincing than what you can imagine.
    First of all, the Soviet Union, who had always thought that as the leader of the communist state they should annex all the territory, actually seized and attacked Zhenpo Island first. So it makes perfect sense to fight back.
    The Soviet Union in Brezhnev’s time was indeed a hegemonic state like the US is today.
    Moving on to India, the reason for the disagreement between India and China is the territory the British randomly carved out on the Chinese border before the partition of India and Pakistan.
    There is no official recognition of such territorial claims. China didn’t take it to heart because of the war.
    After World War II, the Indians discovered the bad deeds committed by the British, but instead of correcting them, they thought it was their territory and took the initiative to use it to launch attacks, killing several Chinese soldiers, which caused the Chinese to fight back.
    Then there is Tibet, which was originally part of the Qing Dynasty. At that time, serfdom was practiced. In fact, it was the remnant of feudalism and should be overthrown.
    Last but not least, Vietnam was willing to become a running dog of the Soviet Union when China was leaning towards the United States. Vietnam constantly provoked the Sino-Vietnamese border and tried to move the boundary monument, which completely failed the kindness of China’s support during the Vietnam War.

    • Thanks: dogbumbreath, Sarah
  218. Ron Unz says:
    @John1955

    Jesus Holy F.. Christ … Some match I might say…

    China’s 1,000+ million metric tons of steel vs US’s 85 million metric tons is like boxing match between 220lbs super heavyweight vs 50lbs featherweight.

    Actually, it was mentioned in a very funny joke that was popular on Chinese social media a few years ago. Chairman Mao comes back to life with all sorts of questions about the modern world:

    • LOL: Levtraro
    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    , @John1955
  219. @dogbumbreath

    “The Korean war was a Civil War. China and USSR supported the North and USA and West supported the South.”

    I can absolutely guarantee that Whitney included the Korean War in the US numbers.

    If Russia’s invasion of Ukraine doesn’t count as “war” then neither do like 90+% of the ones added to the US

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
  220. Anon[837] • Disclaimer says:
    @irish Savant

    The financial sector literally created the service sector through innovations in financial theory such as fiat money.

    Not to mention funded every technological breakthrough known to man.

    Try again. The financial sector created everything.

  221. @Zane

    Australian universities are full of (and basically kept afloat by) Chinese students.

    They are NOT the high IQ people everyone makes them out to be. Cheating isn’t just blatant, it’s the foundation of how they work. Given the power they have collectively over the universities nothing whatsoever is done about it

    • Thanks: Zane
  222. Folkvangr says:
    @Joe Wong

    While what Bill Clinton did was criminal, disgracing the USA’s national honor, obscenity and morally defunct.

    I guess if I find a video of a naked Xi Jinping swimming in a pool with a naked Putin, you will still blame the “morally defunct” Americans. The difference between you and me is that I will blame those two idiots, but not the “morally defunct” Chinese or Russians. I smell a rat here lol

    • Replies: @Joe Wong
  223. @Joe Wong

    What criminal act did Clinton do getting a blowjob off a Jewish provocateur?

    I mean he perjured himself before Congress when asked about it, but since it was compelled speech, not sure if that’s actually criminal (he was impeached for it though)

    Also, congress deserves to be lied to.

    And told to go fuck themselves

    • Replies: @Sarita
  224. @mulga mumblebrain

    The West suffers from Beliefism, inherited by the Greeks, who fervently believed in stuff like ‘universals’ which had a prior, senior relationship to mere ‘things’.

    Then thousands of years of batshit crazy religionists running around believing madly. Read Jonathan Healy’s The Blazing World, to see just how nutty the English can get..

    The Americans were briefly attracted away from religion by Sputnik, but they’ve relapsed into what we’re seeing now, no sorrier and no wiser.

    Meanwhile, in the real world, Russia and China are running away from the pack.

    In case you haven’t seen my favorite bro pic, or didn’t know that Putin’s #1 fan is Chairman Xi, check out the body language..

  225. @Zane

    The two countries with the strongest currencies, China and the USA, have the lowest rates of offshore stashing, and China is lower than us.

    • Replies: @Zane
  226. @Ron Unz

    Hey, Ron. Could you provide a comment in reaction to this important article? Given that you’ve written extensively about Jewish overrepresentation in elite institutions (like Ivy League universities), this seems like the type of important development on which I’d like to see your analysis.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-tablet-whiteness-ends-jews-hardest-hit/

    Thanks.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  227. John1955 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Thank you Mr Unz;

    The way things are going, soon the only thing left after mighty American Steel Industry will be Joe Magarac statue at the end of Manchester Bridge in Pittsburg.

    After paying respect to Chinese steelworkers I want to pay tribute to American Steelworkers too:

    JOE MAGARAC SONG

    I was born in a mountain of red iron ore
    I was raised in the furnace by the blast and roar
    Got no time for sleeping, give me food I can’t eat
    Hot steel soup, cold ingots for me

    Mighty Joe, mighty Joe, mighty Joe Magarac
    Mighty Joe, mighty Joe, mighty Joe Magarac
    Red hot steel running down my back
    Mighty Joe, mighty Joe, mighty Joe Magarac

    Now if you doubt my word don’t you call me a liar
    When you play with me, you play with fire
    I’m solid steel and the good lord he knows
    If you’re tired of living, just step on my toes

    I was pulling that shift for twenty nine men
    And I had that furnace eating out of my hand
    But the blasted furnace wouldn’t get enough
    So I jumped on in, I’m made that tough

    Now when you see a building climb a mile high
    And you see a bridge reach across the sky
    There’s a little bit of steel and a whole lot of man
    In every girder, in every span

    I wonder how Chinese Joe Magarac looks like 😁😁😁

  228. @John1955

    Mao’s approach to steel production led to a terrifying famine. Turns out zeal isn’t the answer to everything. It takes a pragmatist like Deng to make things right.

    Deng, as in Deng Xiaoping, whom Biden claimed to have met in Paris in 2016, 19 years after Deng’s death.

  229. meamjojo says:
    @Hulkamania

    You are referring to your own worthless post, yes?

  230. meamjojo says:

    Why China Didn’t Invent ChatGPT
    The state’s hardening censorship and heavier hand have held back its tech industry; so has entrepreneurs’ reluctance to invest for the long term. It wasn’t always that way.

    By Li Yuan
    Feb. 17, 2023

    Just a few years ago, China was on track to challenge United States dominance in artificial intelligence. The balance of power was tilting in China’s direction because it had abundant data, hungry entrepreneurs, skilled scientists and supportive policies. The country led the world in patent filings related to artificial intelligence.

    Today, much has changed. Microsoft — an icon of American technology — helped the start-up OpenAI usher its experimental chatbot, ChatGPT, into the world. And China’s tech entrepreneurs are shocked and demoralized. It has dawned on many of them that despite the hype, China lags far behind in artificial intelligence and tech innovation.

    “Why wasn’t ChatGPT invented in China?” they asked. “How big is the ChatGPT gap between China and the U.S.?” “The Chinese equivalent of ChatGPT? Don’t take it too seriously.”

    They’re also asking more fundamental questions about the country’s innovation environment: Have censorship, geopolitical tensions and the government’s growing control of the private sector made China less friendly to innovation?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/17/business/china-chatgpt-microsoft-openai.html

  231. meamjojo says:
    @Decoy

    Wrong again. Most of China would still be plowing fields if they hadn’t been able to steal IP form all over the world, not just from the USA.

    Mainland Chinese are brought up in regimented schools and have to pass standardized tests. Learning for them is memorization. They don’t learn to think on their own.

    This is why they want/need to take over Taiwan – to get their chip making expertise that the Taiwanese themselves learned from working with the west. Now that the USA/West is cutting China off from the latest chips, they are becoming desperate and will have to up their thieving game or grab Taiwan.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  232. eah says:

    A book written more than two decades ago addresses this general topic:

    In Praise of Hard Industries: Why Manufacturing, Not the Information Economy, Is the Key to Future Prosperity

    You can include FIRE (finance, insurance, real estate) with ‘Information Economy’.

    The West no longer wants to get its hands dirty.

    • Replies: @Brad Anbro
  233. As an American (a 71-year-old retired industrial electrician), I am very sorry to say that the United States is being run by the STUPIDEST people on earth. Yes, I realize that they are not really “running” it; the Big Money group is calling the shots.

    The United States, in my lifetime, has gone from being the world’s preeminent manufacturer and creditor nation to being the world’s largest debtor nation and importer of what others manufacture. The United States, rather than making money the old-fashioned way, engages in financial fraud to enrichen a select few, while the American middle class gets destroyed and our infrastructure crumbles right before our eyes.

    Old Henry Ford might not have been college educated, but he was absolutely right about three things: the banks, Wall Street and the Jews. And I am not singling out Jews only – they have had plenty of help from the WASPs, the Catholic church, etc.

    Lest anyone thinks that I am “communist” or “fascist” or “socialist” or any other “-ist,” I am FOR capitalism – capitalism that has not run amok, with the paramount concern of “making a dollar” and everything going to Hell in the process.

    The United States, with its ongoing “foreign policy” of running rough-shod over all other countries, is too stupid to see that it is only hurting itself in the long run. China and Russia seem to realize that it is better to COOPERATE with other countries, to everyone’s benefit.

    Thank you.

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
  234. eah says:
    @Zane

    >China is way overrated.

    It’s increasingly difficult to find metrics to justify statements like this.

    China leads the world in patent applications: link

    Huawei is the leading company for 5G patents, outpacing traditional mobile communications powerhouse Qualcomm: Who is Leading the 5G Patent Race?

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  235. SoUtH says:

    To @NIdahoCatholic at [211]
    I commend you for your modification to the wef name. Very creative and much more accurate. Good job, NIdaho. Excellent.

    The problem with the option that you suggest, is that nobody gonna come to your property. BillGates will simply crop dust your land in middle of night with agent orange or one of his newly engineered bioweapon fluids. But maybe such will not even be necessary. Consider that some of the chemicals dropped in East Palestine that are now making their way through Ohio River and its tributaries. That contaminated water then rises to clouds, gets blown around by winds, then rains down on crops — which then get distributed into grocery stores. Depopulation by fake-natural event. Happening everywhere.

    Happening already. I bought a package of organic mini peppers, labeled as grown in MX. I saved some seeds from each color — red, yellow, orange, etc. I let them dry out then planted all 54 seeds. I figured that I would get at least 40 good healthy plants. Guess how many I got. None. I got none. Not even one seed germinated (prior to CY2000 I did not have this problem). But these peppers were freakin labeled as organic!

    Monsanto has taken control of seed companies, owns Burpees. The words ‘organic’ and ‘nongmo’ are now fairly meaningless. A friend told me that you can’t get 100% germination out of seed packets labeled with both words and one pretty much has to buy seeds each year because what you get in the fake-organic fake-nongmo packets are, in fact, terminator seeds; i.e., seeds whose mature plants produce sterile seeds. How “convenient” for annual money making. But what are the long term health effects of the fruit from these manipulated seeds? And just look at what they are doing to meat and feed! They are loading feed with “vaccine” material. Go to redacted.com and search for the vid on chicken feed and the laying of eggs. If you can’t find it, write back and I will link you to it. I actually commented on it in response to some guy that posted the vid here at unz. His handle was Loner Feral Cat. I don’t remember the name or author of the article but can probably find it. The 12+min vid is well worth the watch and I summarized its points in the comments.

    One of the most important and eye-opening books is “Seeds of Destruction,” by William Engdahl. He has important insights. You can find lots of good articles at his website and he publishes new articles frequently at globalresearch.ca along with several other good writers there. This is a good source because the articles are fairly short.

    Do you remember the famous Henry Kissinger quote of years ago? “Control oil and you control nations. Control food and you control people. Control money and you control the world.”

    Let’s talk about money for a moment. But first, a chilling quote:

    “I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain’s money supply controls the  British Empire and I control the British money supply.” – Nathan Mayer Rothschild

    For a really accurate look at this financial power, read “The City of London” in Larry Romanoff’s archive here at unz.com. Look at this picture (I believe that this link will convert to the jpg image upon posting this but if not, just scroll down in Larry’s article until you see Rothschild poking the King of England in his tie).


    The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 gave the Fed the exclusive right to print money, which it would then lend out to the gov’t at an interest rate. When Nixon removed money from the gold standard, uncontrolled gov’t spending escalated almost geometrically. Gov’t currently admits to owing the Owners of the Fed (Rothschild dynasty) $30T (many writers put the figure much higher) — which makes the annual interest payment alone ~$1T. This is a debt that cannot be paid. But the Owners of this country (Rothschild and other bloodlines) are not going to void the unpayable debt. So they have decided to take entire N Ameriwrecka and all of Europe as their initial collateral as well as other countries piece by piece (looks like Brazil is now shamefully in their pocket).

    This is another reason why Ukr is viewed as so important: it is the stepping stone to destroying RU and to confiscating that wealth in establishing their NWO. They want all of the hard assets of the entire world, of the planet. RU, of course, is giving them a hard time. Time will tell if they resort to The Samson Option.

    Once cbdc is in place, they will crash the current financial system and cdbc will replace it. In this way, they will come to literally own (and control) everyone’s entire bank account, along with all of their assets (including land and businesses). It is in this manner that they will collect on the defaulted gov’t loans. This is the wef 2030 agenda, which includes a massive depopulation because (among other reasons) fewer people are easier to control.

    This is an interesting article:

    https://www.indiatimes.com/culture/who-we-are/these-are-the-13-families-in-the-world-that-apparently-control-everything-from-politics-to-terrorism-257642.html

    Catherine Austin Fitts once made a very chilling statement. She said: “Death is not the worst thing that can happen to you. What they are planning in implanting chips into your brain is far worse.”

    I tried very hard to come up with a solution. Best one that I could think of was a couple of hypersonic thingies in a couple of strategic locations including, but not limited to, the annual Davos meeting exactly and precisely during the santa klaus opening address. Ain’t gonna happen.

    They gonna win.

    This is the most significant event that has ever happened in the history of the world.

    And nobody with any real status or power is talking about this in a problem-solving manner. Nor are the common folk — us “useless eaters,” as klaus labels us.

    Once they implement the cbdc system, it is game over for us. They will issue edict mandating that all ones currency and coinage be turned in to your bank account for conversion into cbdc. They will give us, say, 60 or 90 days to do so. Everyone WILL do it because after that period expires, all paper currency and coinage shall be deemed worthless and nonnegotiable. And neither grocery store nor home depot nor gas station nor cell phone company will barter their products in exchange for a box of homegrown tomatoes.

    As you eloquently stated: It is way past the time for pink mist therapy. But the bmg (which can kill a deer without even hitting it) ain’t gonna work. So, what is the plan, NIdaho? What is the fuckin plan? I don’t see any. Even the hypersonic dropping its calling card is, at best, dilatory not curative.

    They gonna win.

    • Replies: @Sarah
    , @dogbumbreath
  236. SoUtH says:
    @NIdahoCatholic

    My initial reply to you (right now at [222]) is still cited as awaiting review by moderator. Right now, it does not appear that it got posted to you as a reply. Unclear if Moderator is holding it or what is going on.

    If it gets posted, I am now posting the link to topic mentioned therein. This was the article.

    https://www.unz.com/article/when-zog-became-ziocorp-the-intrinsic-flaws-within-capitalism/

    The vid is posted by Loner Feral Cat at [61]. It is a 12+min video that is well worth the watch.

    My reply is posted at [148] there and it lays out all of the points made in that vid.

  237. @Sarita

    Get a copy of this and read it cover to cover.

    • Thanks: Sarita
  238. barr says:
    @putinandhisfansaremorons

    Ideas matter to christianity . DNA matters to Judaism .Thats why it is nothing but tribalism . In Islam and Christianity – its the ideas that matter .Jesus was not Jewish in ideas and practices prevalent in 1AD .
    Once you understand this universalism and dare yourself challenge casteism ( Like saying a son of Brahmin cant be a muskim or Christian accordingbto casteist ) or tribalism ( claiming a ll Jews are zionist or son of a Jew cant become a Christian and flourish )
    Racism is part and parcel of Hinduism and Judiasm – it stymie human developement and restrcit human choices . They put human in a rigid cast of what they would want human be or act,behave,and believe.
    The sects that Jesusu led slowly and entirely split off from Judaism in less than 100 yrs .
    Jews had a chocie to renege and join this religion just like new religion had a choice to disavow and
    go back to 1AD judiasm . Neither did . Neither are obligated to one another to admit the primacy of the other .

  239. Ron Unz says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Hey, Ron. Could you provide a comment in reaction to this important article? Given that you’ve written extensively about Jewish overrepresentation in elite institutions (like Ivy League universities), this seems like the type of important development on which I’d like to see your analysis.

    Thanks for bringing that post to my attention. I responded with a comment on that thread:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-tablet-whiteness-ends-jews-hardest-hit/#comment-5844937

    I think Hillel deliberately changed their method of counting Jews in order to greatly reduce their numbers and hence the mismatch with Jewish academic achievement. Now they restrict their definition to individual who follow the Jewish religion, thereby excluding all secular, atheistic, and agnostic Jews, probably a substantial majority of the total.

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
  240. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @ld

    it would be better to fund a working man’s party that encompasses a broad spectrum of American society

    A “working man’s party” will be quickly bought off by ((Jews)) and their stooges. Only Christendom is constitutionally allergic to Satanist and their Judas minions.

    • Replies: @ld
  241. Wokechoke says:
    @eah

    They ought to lock horns with NATO in a proxy war if they are pay attention to current year trends.

  242. @mulga mumblebrain

    Freedom is just another word for nothing left to loose,
    Democracy is just another word for rule of Jews.

  243. @eah

    Eahhh!!!

    Quote:

    “The West no longer wants to get its hands dirty.”

    I beg to disagree with you. I worked for over 40 years as an industrial electrician in the Rockford, Illinois area (90 miles west of Chicago). Rockford used to call itself “The Screw Capital of the World” – it had many factories which produced fasteners of all kinds. Now most of them have closed up or are a small shadow of their former selves.

    Rockford USED TO BE a major industrial town, with a lot of factories and a lot of good-paying jobs, both union and non-union. NOW Rockford is an industrial ghost town. I do not know how many millions of square feet of vacant or under-utilized factory floor space there is in Rockford, but it is a very large number.

    Now, Rockford is filled with gambling facilities and strip malls, complete with their “shit shops.” None of the politicians there seems to give a damn and the residents have basically resigned themselves to the fact that Rockford is now a “has been” city. Very pathetic.

    The factory where I applied for a job as an electrician before being hired by the factory from which I retired had put an ad in the local newspaper for an electrician. I was one of the TWENTY qualified persons who applied for the job and one of the SIX whom they interviewed. I did not get the job, because they felt that my robotics skills were weak, which was true.

    The United States no longer has very much manufacturing because the corporations figure that they can MAKE MORE MONEY by moving their production facilities to China or to some Third World country, which utilizes prison or sweatshop labor. NOT because Americans do not want to get their hands dirty. It is because the rich bastards insist that they receive an ever increasing “slice of the pie” and to Hell with everyone else. Those are the FACTS.

    Two of the latest American labor “casualties” are Hershey’s chocolate and Carrier refrigeration, both corporations having moved production facilities from the USA to Mexico. Why? Were the American workers unproductive or non-competitive? No, it was because the corporations figured that they could MAKE MORE MONEY by moving production to Mexico. The ONLY reason.

    If you believe this crap about “Americans not wanting to work because they don’t want to get their hands dirty,” you had better stop watching Fox News, CNN and MSNBC. You had better avail yourself of some of the alternative-news websites WHICH TELL THE TRUTH.

    Thank you.

    (signed)

    Brad Anbro
    retired industrial electrician, United Auto Workers Journeyman

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  244. Alrenous says: • Website
    @Brian Damage

    American cities at $65,000 per head. are clearly poorer, dirtier, and more criminal than Moscow at approximately $20,000 per head. Not to mention Shenzen.

    Don’t even try thinking about Kigali in Rwanda, which is barely over $2000 per head.
    They can afford to have their gutters mopped literally six times a day. And it shows.

    You can find walkabouts (or driveabouts) for any of these places on Youtube. Go look for yourself if you don’t already know.

    Where is all of America’s money going? It’s not to the 99.9%, that’s for sure.

    • Agree: Brad Anbro
    • Replies: @Brian Damage
  245. meena says:
    @Tallest Skil

    We are always trying to construct new reality based on the image of the past. Unfortunately that image of the past is the creation of the current force seeking psychologically enduring emotional legitimacy that it couldnt obtain at present by evidences, arguments, by products of labors,by policies, or by its records of achievments .
    The images we build serve same one purpose – elevating us and delegitimizing the current enemy .
    It gets worst – the current enemy might be the creation of us by a stroke of pen that tries to obliterate the peaceful symbiotic coexistence of the two in the past.

    Both India and Israel are prime examples of this .

  246. Alrenous says: • Website
    @Vidi

    Have you ever used a septic tank? They’re straight superior to a sewage treatment plant, because your ‘sewage treatment plant’ is your lush, green lawn.

    If you then cut the grass and compost it for fertilizer, the farmer’s fields aren’t depleted of nutrients other than N, P, and K.

    What you if you didn’t bury all your nutrition or dump it in the ocean?

    • Agree: Zarathustra
  247. anon[286] • Disclaimer says:
    @Folkvangr

    American leaders dance naked even when there is no victory to celebrate . Didn’t you read from Ron Unz that LBG was fund defecating in public and from me that Yeltsin’s US’s favorite democratic leader was walking with a borrowed thong at night around White House ?

    • Replies: @Folkvangr
  248. Joe Wong says:
    @Folkvangr

    Bill Clinton’s crime is a fact, while your allegation against Xi and Putin is a pure fabrication through the thin air. Indeed it is a mission impossible for the doublethinks and double standard Americans to distinguish between facts and fabrications.

    BTW, the Americans have fabricated landing-on-the-moon, 9/11, Iraq WMD, etc. If Americans will simply fabricate an evidence if they need. Perhaps General Matovnikov’s video is a fabricated one.

    • Replies: @Folkvangr
  249. @meamjojo

    The Chinese still have a lot to learn how to steal:

    The thief tried, but failed, to do the same to Huawei and now wants to do it to TSMC. Looks like the thief will be more successful with TSMC because English Tsai willing spreads her legs for the senile Brandon.

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  250. @Alrenous

    American cities at $65,000 per head. are clearly poorer, dirtier, and more criminal than Moscow at approximately $20,000 per head. Not to mention Shenzen.

    Don’t even try thinking about Kigali in Rwanda, which is barely over $2000 per head.
    They can afford to have their gutters mopped literally six times a day. And it shows.

    You can find walkabouts (or driveabouts) for any of these places on Youtube. Go look for yourself if you don’t already know.

    Where is all of America’s money going? It’s not to the 99.9%, that’s for sure.

    I have travelled to quite a few countries and all are deemed “poor” by Americans. I don’t go to tourist traps. I hang out and local places, try to be like the locals. Most of them have a better quality of life than Americans. The only things that Americans have that most of the rest of the world do not have are the huge variety of consumer products. Those poor countries have decent almost free health care. I even see American health tourists taking advantage of the lost health care costs. Of course, foreigners have to pay a premium but still very much lower than the US.

    Shenzhen is different though. It is the most high tech city in the world and most people there do have wages similar or higher than Americans. Same with Tokyo, Singapore and Hongkong. I would look at middle income cities. Those middle income cities have better quality of life than most US cities.

    • Agree: Alrenous
    • Thanks: showmethereal
    • Replies: @Alrenous
  251. @Shitposter_in Chief

    I can absolutely guarantee that Whitney included the Korean War in the US numbers.
    If Russia’s invasion of Ukraine doesn’t count as “war” then neither do like 90+% of the ones added to the US

    My point which should be obvious to anyone impartial is a border dispute/war is within the norms of confrontation for adjacent countries. Russia and Ukraine share a border. However, if your wars or border disputes are thousands of miles away, separated by oceans, seas and other countries then it’s just Imperialism or “divide and conquer”.

    As posted many times over, Russia’s involvement is a SMO. If it was War, Russia would have used it’s hypersonic missiles to take out ALL infrastructure and command centers before sending into Ukraine one single troop.

  252. PUTINFAN says:
    @Sarita

    Demand for the actual greenback is high all over the world and is greatly sought after as an actual usable commodity. So a simplified answer is that it has now become GREEN GOLD.

    THE dollar bashers may be correct about electronic dollars. Worldwide the people want those pictures of Ben Frankin.

    • Thanks: Sarita
    • Replies: @Sarita
  253. Alrenous says: • Website
    @Brian Damage

    Official Shenzen GDP/head is $27,074. That’s 30% higher than Moscow.

    Officially.

  254. PUTINFAN says:
    @Franz

    Thanks for reading my reply to your note. The gist of my note. THE WEST, SERIOUSLY AND VERY, VERY DANGEROUSLY UNDER ESTIMATES THE WEALTH AND POWER OF RUSSIA.

    This can only result in grave damage and destrucción to the West.

    Salado—-they deserve it.

  255. Folkvangr says:
    @Joe Wong

    Why are you even here on this American website? What’s your game here? We have too many people here who hate their homeland. We don’t need no Chinese to lecture us about how bad we are. Go back to China, North Korea or wherever you crawled from and have a nice life lol

    • Replies: @JR Foley
  256. Anonymous[338] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    I think the Middle East is the next big proxy war

    I think you may be correct.

    The United States want tensions and Cold War with China, not actual war.

    Raise tensions, make itself seem essential as an ally and “bulwark” vs big bad China, and thereby rebuild its status as “most essential country” in its own “rules-based international order” (conveniently defined by itself).

    American business and industry cannot compete, so we export rhetoric, talk up possible war, and in some fashion, maintain relevance. Geopolitics 101. The arms build up and sales are a nice bonus, but a secondary priority.

    But in terms of actual warfare, where the U.S. will actually fight, it will neither be in Europe nor Asia. The U.S. keeps its reputation intact by picking lesser targets (as in, not Russia or China).

    That leaves the Middle East, specifically Iran, as a tough but, in Washington’s mind, doable target. Th fact that Iran is independent, oil rich and aligning with the BRICS block makes the U.S. want to make an example of them. Iran is also Israel’s great rival, so that’s another motivation.

    If we go after Iran, Saudi Arabia or even Turkey, expect proxy support from BOTH Russia and China.

    That’s just what the U.S. and the collective West need, yet another big proxy war, in the Middle East. You would think they’d be tired of it by now.

  257. Folkvangr says:
    @anon

    Looks like your dial-up connection is faster than your brain, which should come as no surprise. I heard you can’t use a public restroom in China anymore before Big Red Brother takes your mug shot. That’s enough to drive anyone nuts lol.

  258. Sarita says:
    @PUTINFAN

    But the point is that the US has an advantage in that they (whoever is in charge of this) they don’t have to have a dollar back-up, and the US doesn’t and that’s unfair to the rest of the world.
    Every dollar should have a piece of gold sitting somewhere.
    That’s the idea I got and I might be wrong. That’s why I asked for clarifications.
    Thanks

    • Replies: @niceland
  259. niceland says:
    @Sarita

    When countries ‘print’ too much money via their central bank and banking system they get inflation and that’s problematic for them at home. Same applies to the U.S. But since the U.S. dollar is global currency the ‘globe’ is effected by dollar inflation. Take for example central banks around the world who hold U.S. treasury bonds in currency reserves – if the dollar is losing value their reserves are shrinking in value. So basically this enables the U.S. to export it’s inflation to the rest of the world.

    A lot can be said about this, but simplified this gives the U.S. big advantage on the world stage and the world wide status of the dollar is very big deal for the U.S.

    Check out this three page report from U.S. Congressional Research Service, and consider who runs the printing press for the $
    https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/if/if11707

    • Thanks: Sarita
  260. ld says:
    @Chris Moore

    ya yer right of course

  261. Folkvangr says:
    @Charles

    Of course the Chinese are winning.

    They win nothing. China thrives on the theft of foreign technology, actively supported by the Chinese government, which is losing the microchip war.
    https://archive.org/details/youtube-Uh4QGey2zTk

  262. Barr says:
    @Zane

    Neither one leaves into US or UK’s main open banks .
    They including Americans and British leave it in Delaware ,
    Jersey City ,Panama and Cayman .

    We have to go back and see if HK were involved in storing and laundering those illgotten asset before China put a kibosh on it .

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  263. @Folkvangr

    Funny how the Chinese will be on the Moon before you Nazis, Volkswanker. Stick to paedophilia and group masturbation-they’re more your style. Why are Nazis so VERY dumb?

    • Replies: @JR Foley
  264. @Deep Thought

    Cai is an half-Japanese Sapphist. She ‘hawks the fork’ for Kamala, only!

    • Agree: A B Coreopsis
    • Thanks: Deep Thought
  265. @Brad Anbro

    Sorry, Brad, but the days of ‘cheap’ Chinese labour were decades ago. Chinese wages have grown strongly for decades, while poor old Yankees have been going down the toilet. My heart bleeds-time you had another, a REAL, Revolution methinks.

  266. @Folkvangr

    Looks like your dial-up connection is faster than your brain, which should come as no surprise. I heard you can’t use a public restroom in China anymore before Big Red Brother takes your mug shot. That’s enough to drive anyone nuts lol.

    Let’s take your comment at face value. At least China hss public restrooms, some Americans in the USA have resorted to defecating on the streets (i.e. San Francisco):

    • Replies: @Folkvangr
  267. @Folkvangr

    They win nothing. China thrives on the theft of foreign technology, actively supported by the Chinese government, which is losing the microchip war.

    IP theft, have any proof (i.e. WTO patent infringement cases) or just more propaganda? Here is another opinion which suggests the USA will lose the semi-conductor race:

    https://cynthiachung.substack.com/p/why-the-united-states-has-set-itself-37d#details

    Some examples of how the USA dominates the semi-conductor field:

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @A B Coreopsis
  268. Zane says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    The point of offshore is that it’s secret. Do you know how many trillions is stashed in the Cayman Islands alone? And it’s not in rubles or yuan. It’s in USD.

  269. Sarita says:
    @Shitposter_in Chief

    It might not be a criminal act (it is anyways) but it was a dumb thing to do because from then on he became OWNED by the Jews by something they are good at: BLACKMAIL.
    Yes, it was a setup.
    Because of this sexually agresive behaviour they figured him out and then he became #1 visitor to the island in exchange for giving them billions.
    Pussy for billions.
    😀
    Do you get it now?

    • Replies: @Shitposter_in Chief
  270. Folkvangr says:
    @dogbumbreath

    He does not look all that American to me, more like a free-roaming bug-eater from an atoll smuggled into the U.S. in a Mexican truck full of cow dung. lol But even if he was, the mere fact that it happened in the once-so-beautiful city of San-Francisco makes me sick. Some rural areas in China look very poor, and the population often subsists on insects as a source of protein.

  271. @Folkvangr

    One of the top 10 comments by Sid.

    • Replies: @Folkvangr
  272. @dogbumbreath

    Caution: you’re responding as if the poster has any grey cells. Save your breath for those who have the capacity and willingness to learn.

    • Thanks: dogbumbreath
  273. @Folkvangr

    He does not look all that American to me, more like a free-roaming bug-eater from an atoll smuggled into the U.S. in a Mexican truck full of cow dung. lol But even if he was, the mere fact that it happened in the once-so-beautiful city of San-Francisco makes me sick. Some rural areas in China look very poor, and the population often subsists on insects as a source of protein.

    Folkvangr, you must have rocks between your ears? China has over 1.4 Billion people. Having poor people is not abnormal. Switzerland with a population of 7 million have poor people. What you are missing in China is the 800 million+ “middle class” created since 1948 in spite of foreign invasions/looting and Civil War. What is remarkable in China today is foreigners have a hard time finding “homeless” people:

    As for eating insects, many cultures snack on insects (ex: Mexico, Thailand, Uganda etc..)….you would never know since you are trapped in Plato’s Cave. FYI, the West in spite of having ample animal protein for it’s population is the one promoting eating insects:

    • Replies: @Folkvangr
  274. Folkvangr says:
    @dogbumbreath

    There is something about China that makes me feel very insecure in this world. I think its leaders should stop bragging about their achievements and trumpeting their militaristic ambitions. It makes other badass countries nervous. lol

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  275. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Brad Anbro

    The United States, with its ongoing “foreign policy” of running rough-shod over all other countries, is too stupid to see that it is only hurting itself in the long run. China and Russia seem to realize that it is better to COOPERATE with other countries, to everyone’s benefit.

    Wow. China and Russia figured out Christianity. Actually, Russia already knew it, but it was hijacked by ((Jews)), destroyed, and had to re-learn it through bitter experience, the same way the West will re-learn it.

    China was repeatedly hijacked by ((Jews)) as well (starting with ((Sassoon/Cousinhood)) opium pushers, then Maoists taught by ((Jews)) on how to plunder and kill the ignorant masses under the auspice of “equality”). Now the ((Jews)) are trying to hijack it again. But since the Chinese have been exposed to the ethical system of Moses-Christianity from Russia, and how it repels mad dog materialists with deranged earthen brains, they’re together building a fortress against financial sector parasites and plunderers, which is ultimately going to leave the ((Jews)) wandering again.

    Don’t cry for ((Jews)) though. They’ll simply return to the cracks and crevices or even deeper for a few decades? centuries? eons? to rise again once modern human beings have forgotten what they are.

  276. Folkvangr says:
    @A B Coreopsis

    Sid, meaning “wide meadow” in Old English?

  277. JR Foley says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Olaf is indeed an O’Laugh –a kraut with an Irish handle. NOW —it takes sheer genius to accepting America blew up the Nordstream—accept low gas supplies and rising prices–a quality industry now almost on the ropes, a public becoming discontent and the American invaders since WWII have contributed nothing but grief but NOW —-O’Laugh is going to bend over so Amtrak Joe can give him the backside slide up the derriere. Please –stupidity comes no better than this !!!

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
  278. JR Foley says:
    @Folkvangr

    Why don’t you return to the Homeland and help out Olaf—his stupidity needs someone half birth to point out to the square head that losing Russian gas means Kraut industry is doomed.

    • Replies: @Folkvangr
  279. @Charles Pewitt

    Charles Bhai,
    The Amriki top people and Chini top people have deep connections with each other for long time, both Amrika and Chin helping each other secretly but acting enemy, just for show. This is no surprise as Amrika and Chin are both the most evil countries doing most destruction to our planet.

    US Congress and Senate Leadership & their links with China – Sasha Gong

    Sasha Gong on Wall Street meets China/CCP – Corruption, Greed, Domination & Quid Pro Quo

    Biden family & China – A Maze of Companies, Corruption & More by Sasha Gong

    Mehool Bhai

    • Replies: @Joe Wong
  280. @Ross23

    They’ve lasted this long they can last another 15-20 years.

    Well, they have seen many young, upstart empires come and go…..Greeks, Romans, Persians, Arabs, Ottomans, Spanish, Dutch, British. The US empire is just the latest of these.

    My bet is that China will still be going strong when the US empire is just another chapter in the history books.

    • Replies: @Folkvangr
  281. @Folkvangr

    and the population often subsists on insects as a source of protein.

    That is like saying that the French subsist on snails, because they cannot afford cheeseburgers.

    In those regions, the people are ethnically related to the Thais. In their culture, insects are considered delicacies, and can be quite expensive. Next time you are in Thailand, go to local supermart and see how much the “bugs” cost.

    • Replies: @Folkvangr
  282. KA says:
    @Folkvangr

    “Dollars for Terror: The United States and Isl… (Paperback)

    by Labeviere, Richard page 6

    “The polciy of guiding the Islam and helping them aginst our adversaries worked marvellously well in Afghanistan aginst the Red Army”,explains a former CIA anlyst “the same doctrine can still be applied t destablzie what reamins of Russin power and specailly to counter the Chinese influence in central Asia”

    • Replies: @Folkvangr
  283. Folkvangr says:
    @JR Foley

    “half birth, Kraut”

    Any more racial slurs you’d like to share here, Mr. Nondescript?
    I repeat: I don’t need any illegal immigrant or even green card holder telling me how bad America is, especially if they are of a different race. The only exception is the British. Let them go and clean up their own mess.

  284. Folkvangr says:
    @littlereddot

    Next time you are in Thailand, go to local supermart and see how much the “bugs” cost.

    Sure. In fact, I might go see if they ship through Amazon right now. Thanks!

  285. Folkvangr says:
    @KA

    can still be applied t destabilize what remains of Russin power

    And that “Russian power” was quite formidable throughout the Cold War, remember?

    1968: Prague Spring. The invasion of Eastern Bloc armies from four Warsaw Pact countries – the Soviet Union, Bulgaria, Poland and Hungary. 200,000 troops and 2,000 tanks were used to occupy the country. During the invasion, 72 Czechs and Slovaks were killed (19 of them in Slovakia) and hundreds were injured. The invading army was equipped with the most modern and sophisticated weapons in the Soviet military catalog.

    It took several wars to defeat the Stalinist monster – the Soviet Union. But even after its collapse it is still a great threat to world peace.

    • Replies: @Brad Anbro
    , @anon
  286. @Folkvangr

    Quote:

    “It took several wars to defeat the Stalinist monster – the Soviet Union. But even after its collapse it is still a great threat to world peace.”

    WHICH country is a great threat to world peace?

    No, surely you wouldn’t be referring to the United States!

    Thank you.

  287. Folkvangr says:
    @putinandhisfansaremorons

    The “Jewish Jesus” is like the kosher tax on pasta or bathroom tissue: everybody knows about it and nobody gives a damn.

  288. Joe Wong says:
    @Mehool Mehta

    If the Americans are that great why are they falling behind despite century of sanctions, embargo, containment, and sabotages they imposed and inflicted on China (both PRC and ROC)?

    Now the Americans cannot compete they want to appropriate all Chinese achievements as their contributions, What shameless scums the Americans are.

    Sree Iyer I PGurus and Sasha Gong are both mentally colonized shameless scum wannabes who tried to score brownie points to improve their standings in the shameless scum society by bashing China with fabricated hearsay. What a pair sockeye puppet show.

    • Replies: @Mehool Mehta
  289. Decoy says:
    @Joe825

    “China is a demographic train wreck beyond anything the world has ever seen”

    My oh my !! I don’t know what you do for a living but somewhere in your future is a job writing click bait headlines for any number of “news” organizations.

    Name a major Western country without a demographic problem. Some countries prefer to let the population gradually diminish rather than actively solicit immigrants and some countries prefer the US policy of mostly open borders to immigrants of vastly different cultures.

    The jury is out on which will work out best. Maybe we will find out that China’s policy worked for them and our policy worked for us. Let’s revisit this in 10 years.

    Russia has a similar issue and is trying to resolve it with increasingly generous stipends to young couples with children. China can do the same if needed.

    • Replies: @Ruckus
    , @Joe825
  290. anon[195] • Disclaimer says:
    @Folkvangr

    Iraq ,Syria, Libya would have welcomed 1968 Prague Spring instead all the got was Chechenya of 1998/ 2000.

  291. Cuck Steve Bannon bitches about Iran’s threat to Israel when Israel supports terrorism against Syria and when Jewish Power engineered the political demise of Trump. This is what’s wrong with cuckservatism. Jews do most to undermine Americanism, but the message is always ‘muh israel’. Btw, Biden has ramped up hostility against China(more than Trump), and his administration is over 75% Jewish-Zionist.

  292. Some Conservatives might say that Chinese economic growth, population growth, and conquest and colonization of Africa, South Asia and South America would, at least, raise the world’s average IQ and color…………….

  293. China just needs to set up the Chinese East India Company, the Chinese South Sea Company, the Chinese Africa Company and the Chinese South America Company, and create big financial incentives for Chinese couples having huge families, and for Chinese youths joining the military and serving abroad, and Chinese military bases overseas… and, you can guess the rest.

  294. Ruckus says:
    @littlereddot

    To be fair the US did steal their best people…

  295. Ruckus says:
    @Decoy

    LOLZ like China and Russia have the same population density…

  296. Folkvangr says:
    @littlereddot

    Fuck China, fuck social credit, fuck digital ID, fuck Chinese communists, fuck “Made in China” junk, fuck Chinese food, fuck Chinese movies, fuck Chinese “philosophy”, fuck Chinese police. Chinese hairless dogs can stay, they are cute, but Chinese Shar-Peis can fuck off.

  297. Sarita says:
    @Folkvangr

    Very good comment! Great input.
    Very interesting 🤔.
    I’m almost sure you’re ready to write an article here at unz.com.
    We need an article name, though.

    • Thanks: Folkvangr
    • Replies: @Folkvangr
  298. anon[197] • Disclaimer says:
    @Folkvangr

    Losing argument baby !

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  299. Folkvangr says:
    @Sarita

    We need an article name, though.

    How about this?

    “If you don’t support this Manifesto, fuck you too!”

  300. @Folkvangr

    You’re just a moronic racist, Volkswanker, like all your odious kind.

    • Replies: @Folkvangr
  301. @Jim H

    Mike Whitney wrote:
    ‘America’s Hyper-Financialized Economic System Is No Match for China’s Government-Directed Investment Model’,

    to which you responded:

    We were told the same thing in the 1930s — that the Soviet Union’s planned economy inevitably would outpace disorderly capitalism …. ‘Government-directed investment’ usually results in value subtraction …..Governments lack appropriate incentives and discipline for successful investment.

    You’re exactly right Jim (you’re making quite a habit of being consistently right, it seems).

    However, China will not go the way of the Soviet Union.
    And that’s because, as Mike Whitney fails to mention, although the Chinese government does have somewhat of a ‘Directed Investment Model’, there’s a LIGHT TOUCH from the bureaucrats.

    In other words, the government (for the most part), stands at arms length and ALLOWS THE DYNAMIC CHINESE PRIVATE SECTOR TO GENERATE REAL & SUSTAINABLE WEALTH.

    With every day that passes, China is shutting down and streamlining those loss making SOE’s (State Owned Enterprises) that were haemorrhaging red ink.
    Others are merged to improve efficiency and yield synergies.

    FACT: China is the most CAPITALISTIC of the major economies. It has:

    1) Among the lowest personal income and corporate tax rates

    2) Among the lowest % of GDP wasted on bloated Big Government

    3) A much lower expenditure flushed down the toilet (as a % of GDP compared to the U.S), wasted on the Military-Industrial-Security-Surveillance-State (MISSS).
    Let’s face it, there is no hit and ‘MISSS’ here. A HUGE component of Big Government in the U.S that ensures the U.S is rapidly descending into the abyss, is the countless trillions wasted over the years on the MISSS and its belligerent/genocidal foreign policy.

    ABSENT BIG GOVERNMENT, IT’S IMPOSSIBLE TO SUSTAIN ANY SIZEABLE MURDEROUS FOREIGN POLICY.

    4) A minimal regulatory burden on SME’s (Small and Medium Sized Enterprises), which are the core of social mobility that makes it possible for the hardworking poor and middle classes to ascend to the upper classes in a meritocratic society.
    This allows the smaller players (who are hungrier/leaner/more efficient than the slothful oligarchs) every opportunity to take market share away from the established players – thus ensuring FIERCE COMPETITION which keeps prices for consumers lower and quality maximised*.

    (*Contrast that to the USSA, where a crushing regulatory maze is entrenched for the benefit of the existing oligarchs, so that their monopolies and market share are maintained and competition is greatly diminished.
    This results in HIGHER prices for goods and services in the U.S, and LOWER quality than there otherwise would be in an unfettered Free Market economy).

    Bottom Line: As long as China can keep Big Government micromanagement of its private sector to a minimum, the future is bright for China.

    On the other hand, if the Government becomes more and more intrusive and wastes precious resources on more grandiose and unproductive boondoggles (eg: building ghost cities, highways and high speed rail to nowhere, Green energy boondoggles etc) and ‘5 year plans’ that resemble the Stalinist era (as many socialists in the UR commentariat are advocating for), then China will indeed go the way of the Soviet Union and end up crashing and burning.

    • Thanks: dogbumbreath
  302. Folkvangr says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Sir, it came to my attention that you did not respond to my plea to join the Coalition of the Tolerant and Benevolent. Did you make this decision out of carelessness or with malice aforethought?

    Yours regardless,

  303. @anon

    And managed to fuck himself instead! 😀

  304. @Alrenous

    All-venomous writes:

    The last time Jews had any real power it was all about Jew-Jew conflicts.
    They didn’t have power and continue not to have any real power

    What are you talking about ?

    The Zionist Usury Banking Cartel (aka ZOG), has multiples of U.S GDP in financial wherewithal, with the ability to print/digitally create scores of trillions more to dole out to itself and its Zio cronies.
    It does this through the ownership/control of the Federal Reserve and the other major western central banks.

    The COMBINED net worth of all the other cabals on the planet (and let’s throw in the fortunes of Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos and Warren Buffett for good measure), is a ROUNDING ERROR when compared to ZOG’s stratospheric wealth.

    This subset of obscenely rich Jews that comprise ZOG don’t sit around all day counting their money.
    They use it to purchase political clout. (They own the U.S Congress and control both parties in this One Party tyranny that poses as a duopoly. They own every western politician of note, they own western academia, the MSM, the major book publishing houses, all the western National Academies of Science, the western Health Bureaucracies, the IMF, BIS, the SWIFT system AND control the entirety of the western financial system).

    How could someone be so brain-dead as to say that malevolent International Jewry have no real power ?

    • Replies: @Alrenous
    , @SoUtH
  305. @Notsofast

    I couldn’t agree with you more. As Noam Chomsky might say:

    The threat of a good example… cannot be tolerated.

    This is what the whole of the cold war amounted to, preventing a rival system, namely communism, from being seen as a viable alternative to capitalism (aka plutocracy).

    [MORE]

    After the Great Depression caused by the failure of the capitalist system and the widespread disenchantment it engendered, along with the (ostensible) defeat of plutocracy’s answer to popular revolts and growing resistance known as fascism, a full-spectrum economic, political, military and ideological war was fought by the USA and its minions in Europe against the Soviet Union and China to convince their electorates that communism never works. This was a war that, so we are told, the USA won decisively (remember Francis Fukuyama’s End of History?) and yet… here we are with the Chinese and Russians appearing once more to threaten by example the USA and its plutocrats.

    • Thanks: Sarah
  306. @Anonymous

    (((Bernie Sanders))) is not the solution. We (meaning Whites of all nations) need to free ourselves from them, reclaiming every part of our societies. The last thing we should do is put one of them in charge, like the doltish Ukrainian peasants have done. There is no freedom when aliens who hate us have power over us.

  307. Atle says:

    It really is hard to see how China, a country long used to be preeminent, can fail to rise again.

    • Replies: @The_Masterwang
  308. Sarah says:
    @SoUtH

    Do you remember the famous Henry Kissinger quote of years ago? “Control oil and you control nations. Control food and you control people. Control money and you control the world.”

    👌👍😡

    • Replies: @SoUtH
  309. @Sarita

    Getting a blowjob off someone other than your wife is a criminal offence in DC? I believe a few states have adultery on the books, but not DC

    We all know Hillary never put it in her mouth

    • Replies: @Sarita
  310. @ld

    Even the brightest students have much to learn from professionals with many years’ experience.

  311. Here is the West’s condescending analysis of PR China’s military and its possible assistance of the Russian war effort.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/03/05/inside-chinese-war-machine-plotting-transform-putins-invasion/

    Keep in mind that PR China is the world’s top naval power, followed by Russia, and then by North Korea. USA has fewer warships than North Korea. And Britannia, that once ruled the seas, is in 43rd place as a naval power. Yet they have something to tell PR China.

    https://www.globalfirepower.com/navy-ships.php

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  312. @phil

    China still has a large state sector, which is bloated and has many workers who could be more productively employed elsewhere.

    The BIG MISTAKE that many commentators make is to attribute China’s rapid growth to this large state sector. Growth has been rapid DESPITE nationalised industries, not because of them

    Well said Phil.

    UR readers should take note and acknowledge the blindingly obvious fact that China is Communist in NAME ONLY.
    In reality it is far more capitalistic than that Socialist shit-hole otherwise known as the USSA.

    • Agree: Levtraro, JR Foley
    • Replies: @phil
  313. @PUTINFAN

    Russia has always under reported their current income to world authorities.

    My educated guess is that their GDP is twice what they report and their proven mineral reserves are certainly 3 or 4 times what they report.

    You’re right on the money P.F.

    And proof of this is the capacity of the Russians to replenish artillery shells and munitions for its frontline soldiers during this proxy war with the Anglo Zionist empire being staged in Ukraine.

    Col. Douglas Macgregor said that the Ukrainians were previously firing around 6000 artillery shells per day. The Russians were firing TWENTY THOUSAND shells in return.

    Despite the more than 3 ro 1 rate of fire of the Russians, they have NO PROBLEM in replenishing their inventories and some reports have stated that they have increased their rate of fire – up to as much as 60,000 shells fired per day on some occasions.

    Meanwhile, despite the low rate of artillery expenditure by the Ukies, no less than NATO Secretary General Jens Stunted-Borg is on record as stating that the U.S and it’s western vassals (as a collective), are UNABLE to manufacture the artillery shells and other munitions fast enough to make up for those expended per day.
    That’s why the Anglo Zionist empire had to place an order with Sth Korea to make some more and even went begging to the Apartheid Israeli state asking them to part with some of their inventory.

    It’s pitiful to observe the depths to which the U.S has descended.

    Bottom Line: It is OBVIOUS that U.S industrial capacity HAS BEEN GUTTED over the last few decades and that Russia is today a manufacturing colossus.

    Russia has been greatly underestimated by the Zionist bankers that started this war (and every other major war for the last 100 years or more).

    End Result: The dismemberment of ZOG is nigh.

  314. @Henry's Cat

    Another myth is that governments can’t create wealth, only distribute it.

    Only an economic illiterate (or a voodoo economist like Michael Hudson – which is tantamount to the same thing), would utter such a foolish remark.

    There has NEVER been a single government in all of human history that created any sustainable and long lasting wealth – NOT ONE.
    All governments are good at is SQUANDERING WEALTH. (It’s just that some governments squander it at a slightly lesser rate than others, and thus appear more prosperous in relative terms).

    Henry’s Cat, even by the standards of cats, you are one dumb M-F’er.

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
  315. @dogbumbreath

    As per Prof. Michael Hudson, when the State builds and constantly upgrades basic infrastructure, this drives down the cost of doing business for the common man.

    D.B.B, you’ve said a lot of very intelligent things in the past, so it’s unfortunate that you’re tarnishing your well earned credibility by quoting the voodoo economist and Maoist/Marxist Michael Hudson.

    As we all know, over the last 25 years or so, China has built its enormous network of highways, thousands of kilometres of high speed rail, numerous world class airports and transformed their cities.

    But that begs the question: WHY wasn’t this done 50 or 60 years ago, while Chairman Mao presided ?
    WHY don’t third world shit holes Bangladesh and Burkina Faso do likewise today ?

    After all, if it is the ‘State’ (as that clown Michael Hudson claims) that by decree, can build all manner of infrastructure that drives down the cost of doing business, why don’t ALL the governments of the world do this and replicate China’s outcome* ?

    (*It’s amazing that I have to ask this question because even a primary school kid could work it out, but I’m surrounded by Socialists that are so CLUELESS that the penny still hasn’t dropped for them).

    ECONOMICS LESSON # 1: The reason Chairman Mao didn’t utilise the power of the state apparatus to build infrastructure to any great extent all those years ago and the reason the Third World nations are unable to so today is:

    BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO WEALTH TO DRAW UPON WITH WHICH TO BUILD SAID INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

    You see wealth needs to be generated FIRST by the private sector and ONLY THEN can government seize it/confiscate it/steal it, through taxation or forcible wealth redistribution.

    Michael Hudson and his MMT groupies just think they can print money to kingdom come and said money generated off the printing press can finance all these grandiose boondoggles that they envision.

    The fact is, the U.S, by virtue of possessing the world’s reserve currency, is the ONLY nation on the planet that can do that – at least UP TO A POINT.
    But they’ve abused that privilege by conjuring quantities of USD that far exceed what little productive capacity the U.S possesses, and therefore the jig will soon be up and the U.S will descend shortly thereafter into the abyss.

    SUMMARY: In the late 70’s Deng Xiaoping told his fellow countrymen that ‘It’s OK to get rich’, or words to that effect.
    This unleashed an entrepreneurial tidal wave in the PRIVATE SECTOR that had been bottled up for decades.
    In the years that followed, the Chinese government (for the most part), STAYED OUT OF THE WAY and let the entrepreneurs build up an enormous war chest that made China rich.
    In other words, the Chinese private sector made stuff that the world wanted and this generated windfall profits from exports.

    This accumulated wealth has, to some extent, been squandered post the 2008 GFC on ghost cities, highways and fast trains to nowhere, a dozen or so world class international airports (that are chronically under-utilised – and thus haemorrhaging red ink) and all manner of government boondoggles.

    Simply put D.B.B, one should not do a Michael Hudson and put the cart before the horse.
    The wealth must FIRST be generated by the PRIVATE SECTOR, and thereafter the state actors can confiscate that wealth on projects that boost their ego and reinforce their Napoleonic complexes.

    A benevolent, all-knowing and all-giving State apparatus is only as good as the PRIVATE SECTOR that funds it.
    Absent that private sector and its wealth generating dynamism, the state is a dud.

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
    , @unzrocks
  316. @John Roberts

    This is why working class living standards and rights rose most in the West during the Cold War, to keep them away from the communist ideology. Once the Cold War was over the assault on those working class gains in the West could commence, especially by importing evermore immigrants from the Third World for whom living standards increased massively just by moving to the West while simultaneously the living standard of the indigenous working classes declined sharply. And despite rising unemployment in the West, they still allow immigrants and refugees to settle in ever increasing numbers.

    • Agree: Avery, Sarah
  317. @dogbumbreath

    Since America was the largest and only modern industrial economy to profit and not be damaged by WW2, it was the successor of the British Empire (Pound Sterling Reserve). Professor Michael Hudson explains it accurately here

    D.B.B, you’re doing it again by referencing that pseudo economist and committed Keynesian Michael Hudson.

    While what you say above is certainly a factor that contributed to the USD gaining reserve currency status, the REAL reason that the USD became the world’s reserve currency was because:

    THE U.S ACCUMULATED BETWEEN TWO-THIRDS and THREE-QUARTERS OF THE WORLD’S CENTRAL BANK GOLD HOLDINGS by the end of WWII.

    Because the U.S had accumulated so much gold, it was negotiated at Bretton Woods in 1944 that the nations of the world could exchange their greenbacks for gold at a specified rate of USD $35 per oz of gold. and that arrangement was deemed satisfactory by the representatives of the nations of the world.

    The British, as impoverished as they were by WWI, still had vast gold holdings as WWII began and the GBP was still regarded as a world reserve currency up to that point.
    However, FDR demanded the vast bulk of Britain’s gold in exchange for U.S aid during WWII.
    The drunken poltroon and traitor Churchill agreed to bankrupt Britain and fight a war on behalf of the Zionist bankers and thus Britain relinquished its world reserve currency status.

    Bottom Line: The U.S claims to have around 8100 tonnes of gold but it refuses to conduct an audit (the last one was done in 1974), and there is every likelihood that it has precious little or no gold remaining.

    China and Russia meanwhile, have been accumulating gold like there is no tomorrow for the last 20 years or so (they are rumoured to have multiples of what the U.S claims to officially have),and at a time of their choosing, they will announce a gold backed yuan and ruble.

    When that day arrives, and likely well before that, it will be game/set/and match for the USD as its value collapses and the U.S becomes a banana republic.

    As the golden rule goes: ‘He who has the gold, makes the rules’.

    Well, China and Russia have a disproportionate amount of the gold, and they’ll be calling all the shots from now on.

    BTW, I know that Michael Hudson doesn’t like to mention the role of gold and the likelihood that the world will be returning to the Gold Standard.

    You see Hudson, like the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel that he’s in cahoots with, are in love with fiat money.
    With fiat money you can finance your MMT boondoggles to your heart’s content.
    Gold cannot be printed/digitally conjured into existence like fiat money.
    That’s why Hudson and his Judaic friends hate it.

    • Replies: @Sarita
    , @dogbumbreath
  318. Alrenous says: • Website
    @Truth Vigilante

    All-venomous

    Weak. My handle is already a pun on arenous, referring to coarse, gritty, friable rock. Implying abrasive.

    Yes yes I’ve heard your Satanist sect’s catechism before. An excellent recital. I’m sure all the other Satanists will be happy to be your friend, but I’m not a Satanist.
    You don’t mean vigilante for truth, do you? You mean vigilante who hunts down any stray truth and shoot it, right?
    To me it sounds like childish whining. Have to use slurs because facts aren’t on your side.
    Sadly, you will find shooting truth doesn’t accomplish much, as truth is eternal.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  319. Alrenous says: • Website
    @phil

    Mostly true. It’s fact of peer-reviewed science that school is not educational, though. As with all IQ interventions, school produces a bump in performance that lasts about a year, and then washes out. In other words the only thing going to grade 5 does is make you perform better at grade 6. By grade 7 it doesn’t matter if you attended grade 5 or not. You can imitate a grade 11 school-education by skipping every day of class until the end of grade 12.

    Going to school does have profound effect on character, but it’s negative.
    http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=11375
    Intentionally so. The architects of the system explicitly wrote down their plans to cause these effects.

    School in fact suppresses literacy via displacement. What causes literacy to rise is return on the investment of learning to read. You don’t exactly need secret arcane knowledge to unlock the ability to teach someone to read. There are reports of higher-IQ echelons teaching themselves.

    At present China’s average living standards are comparable to Mexico’s.

    A misleading average.
    Rural Chinese peasants can afford to build their own houses and decorate them lavishly. Americans can afford bare, unwashed concrete.
    As above, the living standard of places like Shenzen is clearly above any American city.

    • Agree: Hulkamania
  320. Alrenous says: • Website
    @eah

    there is no reason to believe this would not have continued in the future without a ‘multiplicity of ethnic nationalities’.

    Yes and no.

    There is no reason to believe that “White” civilization would not always have committed suicide in one way or another as a result of becoming rich enough to afford to do so. It’s not a wrong turn but a manifestation of deep character; if they hadn’t choked their countries with unproductive foreigners, they would have choked the countries in some other way.

    Europeans from inside the Hajnal line have a series of pathological character traits, such as severe gullibility, deliberate sacrifice toward enemies, and apathy towards their own alleged loved ones. A lethal parasite infection was inevitable.

    • Replies: @eah
  321. Wild Man says:

    A couple of things about the article that are quite striking:

    1) As per the section of the Whitney article quoting a 10-year old Unz article, ….. it is apparent that Unz has indeed (many years ago now) assembled most of the elements of our faux-west system, and the way these elements interplay and inter-reinforce, coalescing around the conclusion that it is indeed best described, as I have been describing myself for years now, as:

    ‘corporo-faux-west-globalism’ as led by ‘globalists’, of which the core group of said ‘globalists’ are a dyad – ‘billionaires’ as such portion interplays with ‘faux-west deep state’ …. the second portion of this dyad being those that populate the upper echelons of the technocracy that has insinuated itself everywhere within our faux-west culture.

    As such I continue to be mystified as to why Unz does not apply these 10-year old insights of his, to his theory of: ‘Sars-cov-2 as American rogue neocon intentional-bioweapon-use operation, featuring massive unforeseen blowback, … in order to try to harm China’s ascension’? I continue to be mystified, because of the evidentiary trail since the advent of covid, … such evidentiary trail showing all the elements of the faux-west globalists as so described above, to be in massive collusionary-mode around the massive unforeseen blowback aspect, ….. is it not proper to draw the conclusion that sars-cov-2 could not be then, an American rogue neocon intentional-bioweapon-use operation, the way Unz means rogue, because it is the western parties in control (the faux-west globalists) that must own both covid-phenom aspects (the ‘shenanigans around covid’s emergence’ aspect, + the ‘overall outcomes experienced all-round due to this emergence’ aspect) and so how could such an operation be featured as ‘rogue’? But if covid-outbreak origins is not ‘rogue’, then simply for rationality-sake, Unz must deal with the massive blowback fact, as a fact of intention and not an accidental fact, the way Unz currently features it (i.e. – the ‘rogues were idiots’ thing, … doesn’t explain anything, the way Unz, crazy-like, after all this time, still insinuates it does, …… so, instead, it’s just blowing smoke in our faces, these Unz claims, that this level of idiocy could be featured, – i.e.- this level of idiocy, with respect to not figuring on the massive covid blowback aspect).

    2) The 2nd thing that is quite striking about the Whitney article is that it begs the question:

    If Whitney, featuring the faux-west globalists as the parties taking the windfall profits, China-industrial-build-up-wise, …. with China (the CCP) only enjoying the paltry ‘management fee’ action, …. then this implies that the faux-west globalists would be best served by looking to move some such operational arrangements to China’s neighbors, so as to get them all competing for the same paltry management fee slice, so nobody in said exploited group (China and it’s highly populated Asian neighbors) starts feeling their oats too much (like blocking faux-west globalist access to key parts of China’s growing consumer demand).

    So maybe the ‘drum of war’, growing louder in southeastern Asia, by faux-west globalist design, is really about setting up the strong arm pretext (as a tactic) to foreshadow the real intentional action, as outlined in the paragraph above. Maybe that is what we should be watching for … for signs of that.

  322. Sarita says:
    @Shitposter_in Chief

    Still don’t get it, do you ?
    They set his ass up, that’s what I’m saying.
    Yes, you’re talking about the penal code but I’m talking about how this fkers set up presidents!
    So, me and you we are in 2 different worlds 😀

    • Replies: @Shitposter_in Chief
  323. @anonomous

    It’s capitalism, pure and simple. The pursuit of profit.

  324. Avery says:
    @Commentator Mike

    {USA has fewer warships than North Korea.}

    The number of ships is irrelevant.
    What kinds of ships does N. Korea have?

    Despite its realtive decline since WW2, US Navy has several powerful aircraft carrier battle groups. Not as useful as before the advent of high precision, long range missiles, but still packs a powerful punch.

    US also has a superb, quiet, submarine fleet: both boomers and attack.
    Don’t know how powerful China’s submarine force is, but Russia’s is peer with US.

    It’s really hard to believe that N. Korea has a more powerful navy than the US.
    US Navy is all over the world.

    Also, neither China nor Russia are interested in global force projection via a blue ocean navy. I am guessing their navies are strictly for defense of their merchant fleets and to sink any invaders of their coastal waters.

    US Navy’s global ambitions were inherited from Imperial Great Britain.
    Thanks to her powerful Navy the small island nation ruled half the world for a couple of centuries.
    But the days of gunboat diplomacy are gone forever with the development of long range precision missiles that can find and sink warships at extreme distances.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  325. @Commentator Mike

    To say that China is the top naval power is BIZARRE. In numbers of small ships, designed for defense, perhaps. But in tonnage the USA possesses 7.1 million tons, and China 2.8 million tons, as of 2022. The US 21 aircraft and helicopter carriers, China two. North Korea even further behind.

  326. eah says:
    @Alrenous

    >Europeans from inside the Hajnal line

    You’re overthinking what is a simple, visceral matter of racial conquest and subjugation: given that racial/tribal suspicion and animus has been the norm throughout the history of human evolution, as reflected in the ethnic struggle to acquire and hold living space, is it a good idea for Whites to allow themselves to become a minority in their own homelands? — the answer is obviously no: with the removal of statues, monuments, etc, the physical elimination phase of ‘diversity’ has already begun — it’s naive to believe it will stop there.

    >they would have choked the countries in some other way

    If you say so.

    Still, given what I’ve seen of the alternative, I’d be willing to take the chance.

    • Replies: @Alrenous
  327. Levtraro says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    The form of the govt is less important that its capacity to compete in the economic, scientific, technological and military realms with oher States. Liberal democracy delivered good results for Americans while it had competition from the Soviet Union and people’s democracy is delivering good results for the Chinese while the USA declines. The most important factor is not the form of govt, but whether the culture of a society puts merit above all other considerations in the context of what other societies are doing.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  328. Sarita says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Thankyou sir,
    That comment made things clearer for me.
    The phrases “World reserve currency” and “THE WORLD’S CENTRAL BANK GOLD HOLDINGS” are key for explanation.

  329. @John Roberts

    This is what the whole of the cold war amounted to, preventing a rival system, namely communism, from being seen as a viable alternative to capitalism (aka plutocracy).

    You are very much mistaken. The U.S today is a socialist shit-hole today ruled by a plutocracy.
    Plutocracy can occur under any system, but is FAR more likely to occur when there exists Big Government (as is the case now in the U.S).
    When Big Government exists, a system where government is flush with money/enabled with extensive powers to legislate sweetheart deals on behalf of its oligarchic benefactors so that they can maintain their monopolies and prevent new entrants from taking market share, that is the system that is much more likely to result in a plutocracy.

    [MORE]

    As for the whole world ganging up on Communism to prevent a viable alternative to Capitalism, you have to be joking.
    Since when was Communism (or Socialism) EVER viable ?

    There has never been a communist or socialist system that has been sustainable – they ALL implode sooner or later.
    To the extent that the Soviet Union lasted 70 years or so, was due to the enormous resources that this country possessed that enabled it to keep its head above water for as long as it did.
    Under any other system, a country endowed with such bountiful resources would have been incredibly prosperous, but socialism/communism ensured that said resources were squandered by government bureaucracy and inefficiency.

    And the proof of that is Putin’s Russia. He inherited a basket case of an economy in 1999 and in 24 years, adopting something very near to capitalism (while simultaneously preventing the rape of the country by Jewish oligarchs as had occurred under Yeltsin), has presided over a massive transformation in the fortunes of the Russian economy.

    You go on to say:

    After the Great Depression caused by the failure of the capitalist system and the widespread disenchantment it engendered

    The Great Depression was NOT caused by Capitalism, contrary to the indoctrination you got from the rabid left influenced public education system.
    And FDR did NOT end the Depression – he made it much worse.

    The fact is Herbert Hoover pursued Socialist policies (massive government intervention, massive stimulus spending and running huge budget deficits) that made a garden variety recession into a far worse one.
    Then, when FDR becomes POTUS, he did exactly what Hoover did but on steroids, and this turned what would have been a short and sharp recession into a long lasting Depression.

    Let’s be clear, the Great Depression, just like the 2008 GFC, was a FAILURE OF GOVERNMENT,
    Specifically, it was a failure of the Federal Reserve and its reckless monetary policies that kept interest rates (in other words ‘easy money’) too low for too long.

    You might counter by saying that the Fed is a private cartel of Zionist Usury Bankers (which it undoubtedly is), and not part of the USG.

    But the fact remains that it was the USG that allowed the Zionist Bankers to create this privately owned central bank.
    There should NEVER have been a central bank in existence in the first place – government owned or privatised.

    Before the creation of Zio owned central banks, the system operated just fine.
    Borrowers and Lenders would meet in the market place and agree to a mutually acceptable rate of interest to be charged.
    If a borrower was heavily indebted and thus posed a high risk of default on the loan, the lender would naturally demand a higher rate of interest to compensate him for the real possibility that he would not be repaid.

    This is the exact OPPOSITE of what is going on in the world today.
    The USG government is the most indebted it has ever been. If it was a Fortune 500 company and been audited using GAAP accounting principles, the USG would have been declared insolvent long ago.
    To the extent that anyone is stupid enough to loan the USG government money, they should be demanding a rate of return of 20-25% per annum or more.

    Yet the Fed digitally creates money to purchase U.S treasuries that offer negligible interest rate returns. (A few years ago the U.S 10 year bond rate was round HALF of one percent).
    This is INSANE and would never happen in a system of Free Market Capitalism.

    Bottom Line: The Anglo Zionist empire undoubtedly assisted and contributed to the implosion of the Soviet Union (as it had done before to Cuba, Nth Korea and is presently doing to Venezuela by way of sanctions imposed/trade impediments etc), but absent its input, these socialist/communist countries would still have imploded all on their lonesome – albeit a few years later.

    Because these systems always fail and societies that employ socialism just get progressively more and more impoverished with each passing year.

  330. @Alrenous

    To me it sounds like childish whining. Have to use slurs because facts aren’t on your side.
    Sadly, you will find shooting truth doesn’t accomplish much, as truth is eternal.

    UR readers can scroll up to my comment # 308 and decide for themselves if I have stated a single thing that is incorrect about the incalculable wealth that the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel possess.

    All-Venomous, you can keep defending your small hat benefactors all you like but it will come to nothing – the UR readers can readily see that you’re an apologist for Zio malfeasance.

    You needn’t worry about me ‘shooting the truth’ – I never do. I rely solely on facts sourced from entities with unimpeachable integrity.
    I just shoot bald-faced liars like yourself.

  331. @Avery

    It’s really hard to believe that N. Korea has a more powerful navy than the US.
    US Navy is all over the world.

    Have a look at this four minute video featuring the submarine strengths of the world’s nations:

    As you can see, Nth Korea ranks 4th in the world in terms of submarine strength.
    What the figures don’t tell you is that many of them will likely by decrepit Soviet era diesel-electric subs that are on their last legs.

    UR readers may find the following bit of trivia interesting about the Taiwanese navy and its contingent of four submarines.
    One of the Taiwanese subs was formerly in the U.S Navy as USS Cutlass (SS-478).
    Here’s the Wikipedia entry for it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cutlass_(SS-478)

    Your eyes do no deceive you. Yes, it is a WWII sub that was launched in 1944.
    The Taiwanese acquired it in 1973 and renamed it the Hai Shih (SS-791).

    It is STILL in active service, and will no doubt be quite a deterrent to the Chinese should they ever decide to annex Taiwan.
    You just have to laugh sometimes.

  332. aandrews says:

    “China initiated 0 conflict for 70+ years since the founding of the PRC….”

    China tangled with the Vietnamese a few years after the US bugged out.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War
    “The Sino-Vietnamese War (also known by other names) was a border war fought between China and Vietnam in early 1979. China launched an offensive in response to Vietnam’s actions against the Khmer Rouge [i.e., that scamp, Pol Pot] in 1978, which ended the rule of the Chinese-backed Khmer Rouge.”

  333. JR Foley says:
    @Folkvangr

    Must be a slow day at CNN?

  334. JR Foley says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Gordon Chang on FOX—-been forecasting the END of China for 20 years and the dimwit viewers on FOX still can not get it. Likewise CNN—today article on China supporting Russia in was but couple weeks ago China presented a Peace Proposal to end the conflict.

    THS BS news media —Rupert Murdoch and Turner —-can their networks be Sued for Slander/ Lible/Defamation of Character?

    These trash outfits poison minds—-numb the grey matter between the ears and repeating the same nonsense day after day after day—-the BS becomes Truth

    Tucker Carlson Nikki Haley Tommy Cotton Donnie Trump Forrest Gump

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  335. @Levtraro

    ‘Liberal democracy’ delivered for ‘forty glorious years’ after WW2, but only out of fear of communism. Once Thatcher and Reagan signalled that social amelioration was over, and labour was to be totally crushed while money was channeled to the rich, things began to fall apart for working peop0le in the USA and UK.
    The fall of communism, after Gorbachev’s epic idiocy, or treachery, exacerbated the Right’s reactionary class vengeance. US median wages have stagnated for over forty years-that is ‘liberal democracy’. Inequality and debt will sink any country, and the West is currently taking on water big time. Good, very good, riddance.

    • Agree: Levtraro
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  336. @mulga mumblebrain

    Each has the navy that it needs. Aircraft carriers and big ships are becoming obsolete. Small manoeuvrable ships packing missiles could be future.

  337. SoUtH says:
    @Sarah

    Yes, Sarah, I remember the Kissinger quote. To me, it is very disturbing. It reflects a type of mind set that is not present in other countries. Xi, for example, has had an opposite mind set and has successfully lifted 800M people out of poverty. His new goal is to enable those people to rise to an even higher standard of living.

    Notice that Xi, too, was concerned about population growth, as allegedly are our Owners. But rather than employing their evil methodology, Xi instituted the One Child per family policy. So their are ways to achieve goals that are not sinister.

    What I don’t understand is why there is so little resistance in this culture to what these “elite” are doing to (or allowing to happen in) their own country. I just don’t get it. There are plenty of people of money, power, and contacts that could put a stop to what is happening — and yet they are silent.

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    • Replies: @SoUtH
    , @dogbumbreath
  338. @Sarita

    I’m agreeing with you, yes, he fell for an Israeli honeypot, which they then further extended by tying him up with Epstein

  339. SoUtH says:
    @SoUtH

    Typo. So, ‘there’ are ways… not ‘their.’ Editing button did not work.

  340. @Joe Wong

    Joe Wank Bhai.
    Wank Bhai, Amrika and Chin are both like the mafias, they support each other was well as harm each other like evil mafias do. Both Amrika and Chin are mafia countries causing harm to World.

    Sree Iyer I PGurus

    Wanker Bhai, Shree Iyer Sir, is opposite of colonized. He is true nationalist who warns India about the evil design of the Western Imperialist thieves, Muslim-evils and Chinese Imperialist devils. All three Imperialist dogs, Western Thieves, Muslim-evils and Chinese Devils, collaborate behind scenes to destroy and break apart India as India is new rising power. Muslim evils and Chinese devils play bad cop to India and the Western thieves play good cop. All of these three are barbarians with violent nature unlike the ancient Bharatiya (Indian) culture which believes in peace and sharing. Bharatiya Culture says “वसुधैव कुटुम्बकम्”, that is World is family. But until the three violent barbarians (Western Muslim and Chinese cultures came from Indians only) are destroyed, World will always be in peril. Since these three are mafias it is likely they will destroy each other. West, Muslims and China, destroy each other, which means India will rule the World and spread good values.
    In this Shree Iyer is playing important role.
    Wanker, pray that the tree evils, West, Muslims and China will destroy each other and India becomes विश्व गुरु/ Vishwa Guru/ World Teacher. Pray for the World.
    Jai Hind, Jai Shree Ram.
    Sincerely
    Mehool Bhai, Mumbai

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    , @vox4non
  341. Levtraro says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    To be precise, I agree that “Inequality and debt will sink any country” and that the demise of the ideology that promotes inequality and debt is something good to get rid of, but as as a Westerner myself I very much want the West to recover its stamina, strength and wisdom to continue leading or at least being a big player in science, technology and commerce.

  342. @Atle

    It all depends on the outcome of WWIII.

  343. @Charles

    Very good point. One many in the Wesley’s don’t know. And in actuality many Han people are as diverse from each other as a Frenchman is from a Greek. Mandarin speaking by the whole country is only since the revolution 100 years ago. Even today a Han from Sichuan and a Han from Shanghai – aside from eating different food – if they speak their local dialect – they will not understand each other.

    • Replies: @A B Coreopsis
  344. @Si1ver1ock

    No need really. Ask BASF and Continental and BMW others. That is why Scholz is refusing to decouple as demanded by the US. China is already the 2nd home of German industry for both production and R&D. Even VW just said “back off” when pressured to close their plant in Xinjiang – noting “forced labor” was nonsense (of course in diplomatic language).
    But in fact China-Germany economic relations COULD HAVE been a model for the US (Siemens was in China for 100 years). Germany didn’t sell out its own citizens. German companies moves to China were about expansion – not domestic destruction. Germans still had proper anfgord education systems and apprenticeship programs. Germany still had affordable and good healthcare. It is parasitic US capitalism that is the problem- NOT global trade. Germany now has refugee and energy problems but it was not caused by their economic system. They never let the financial economy control everything

    • Replies: @unzrocks
  345. @Truth Vigilante

    All Communist systems create wealth. Now one might say that capitalist societies are more efficient at it.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  346. Anonymous[281] • Disclaimer says:
    @JR Foley

    Gordon Chang on FOX—-been forecasting the END of China for 20 years and the dimwit viewers on FOX still can not get it.

    Gordon Chang’s got a good racket going. The racket is this: Tell people what they want to hear, and they will flock to you – with all the money and fame that implies.

    But Chang’s got competition lately.

    One “Peter Zeihan” is making a play for the same audience.

    Zeihan is as credible as Chang, but more entertaining.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  347. Alrenous says: • Website
    @eah

    The chance was already taken.

    It’s clear you have no idea what I’m thinking. And that’s fine. You can assist with the suicide if you want.

  348. unzrocks says:
    @showmethereal

    SPOT ON. BRAVO. Unfortunately, most US citizens always whine and complain about NAFTA / China / Trade / IP theft, global trade, etc. when the culprit is right at home under their own very nose, parasitic US financial capitalism which is trying to enforce it’s rule on the entire planet.

  349. @Ray Caruso

    Correct in your penultimate thought. But that was mainly because most of the globe had been destroyed by WW1 and 2. Maybe that’s the US strategy again using Ukraine and Taiwan. Cause European and Asian wars to be at the pinacle again. But the difference is now missiles can hit anywhere on the globe. The powers that be seem to forget that sometimes. German U boats used to sink ships off the U.S. coast. So what do they think Russia and China could do now??

  350. @P.T.

    Great…. So that means you agree to remove all sanctions against North Korea and mind your business about whether Iran develops weapons or not? Or you didn’t think that far ahead??? And if Japan and South Korea start to develop nukes… What do you think Russia and North Korea and Mainland China will do in the meantime??? Oh you didn’t think that far ahead?

    • Replies: @P.T.
  351. Zane says:

    Everything in China is run or owned by the State. That means the CCP. The Chicommies. It’s a fascist totalitarian dictatorship that would make Orwell proud. There is nothing great about living in such a place. It sucks.

    Stop sucking Xi’s dcik.

    • Agree: Folkvangr
  352. @Henry's Cat

    All Communist systems create wealth.

    One ‘creates wealth’ if the value of the finished product or service is of greater value than the inputs (land, labour, and capital) that were utilised in making said product.

    Of course in any society, irrespective of the political system employed and how badly it’s run, there will always be some subset of industry we can cherry pick within it that ‘value adds’ and creates some degree (however minor) of wealth.

    BUT, as a collective, ALL communist/socialist societies squander wealth and progressively become either poorer in absolute terms, or at the very least in relative terms when compared to their capitalistic peers where entrepreneurial dynamism is allowed to flourish.

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  353. @Anonymous

    Zeihan is as credible as Chang, but more entertaining.

    Peter Zeihan is a f*ckwit and an OBVIOUS CIA asset. His B.S and easily discernible propaganda is far from entertaining.

    He was an analyst and later vice president for Austin-based geopolitical intelligence firm Stratfor, where he spent 12 years.

    For those UR readers not familiar with Stratfor, it was founded by the rabid Zionist and perennial Russia hater George Friedman and, as dishonest as Wikipedia is on a range of matters, even they couldn’t help themselves by acknowledging that:

    Barron’s once referred to Stratfor as “The Shadow CIA”

    Anyone stupid enough to listen to Zeihan on any topic (let alone the Ukraine proxy war where he’s been mouthing untruths on steroids), deserves to be attacked by those spike proteins in the mRNA toxins from the endless boosters they’ve received, that will bring about their imminent demise.

  354. @Barr

    There is positively no question that Hong Kong was the money laundering center of Asia under the British. That’s why they didn’t want to give it back to China. The Brits – and all their klepto friends in Asia (such as US stooge Marcos in the Phillipines) used it. All the Asian drug and counterfeit rings (such as the triads in Hong Kong and Taiwan and South East Asia) all used it too. As soon as it was announced that the PRC was taking back Hong Kong by 1997 – they basically made their exits before…
    But it wasn’t until the CPC caught it’s own members using Hong Kong (and the casinos in Macao) to steal money in the new capitalistic China – and export it out – was the pipeline truly shut down.

  355. @mulga mumblebrain

    slight correction… if you count “helicopter” carriers also – then you have to bump China (type 071 and 075) up to 7 total (soon to be 8 with the new largest carrier)….

  356. @Zane

    Obviously sucking is something you spend a lot of time thinking and fantasizing about. Have at it maricón!

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  357. @showmethereal

    Not true if they are speaking putonghua, which they obviously would do.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  358. Sarita says:
    @Mehool Mehta

    Why are there hundreds of indians raping little girls in buses, streets, bushes, movie theaters, temples all over the place …
    Why?

    • Replies: @Mehool Mehta
  359. Zane says:
    @A B Coreopsis

    Not me, Xi worshipper. I’ll leave that to you!

  360. Zane says:

    Two countries that can’t be criticized on TUR:-

    1. China

    2. Russia

    Everything else is fair game.

    It makes you wonder, doesn’t it. 😀

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @d dan
  361. @Truth Vigilante

    One ‘creates wealth’ if the value of the finished product or service is of greater value than the inputs (land, labour, and capital) that were utilised in making said product.

    How does one measure this greater value?

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  362. @A B Coreopsis

    I specifically said if they were speaking in their local dialect. The national language implementation is less than a century. There was resistance to it. Even in Singapore when Mandarin was made a national language along with English. The Hokkien – Hakka – Cantonese – Teo chew – (Taishanese are a small portion) all wanted their dialect to be prominent . They are all Han people.

  363. P.T. says:
    @showmethereal

    Temper your imagination, and pay attention to what is happening now as difficult as that is for you.
    lll

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  364. d dan says:
    @P.T.

    “Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan need to arm themselves with nuclear weapons. ”

    Pure BS. Should Solomon Island arm themselves with nuclear weapons too “to defend them against” Australian and American aggression? If Taiwan could do so, same for Scotland to seek independence. What about the other 200+ countries/regions? Shouldn’t they have the “rights” to self-defense themselves against whatever enemy they have, real or imagined? Hey, I need nuclear weapons to defend against my neighborhood tugs too.

    Simple-minded people always have simple “solutions” for complicated problems in the world.

    “Communist aggression.”

    China has never attacked Japan for thousands of years. But when Whites people occupied Japan in 1945, China suddenly became a “threat”. Shouldn’t people think first who is the real aggressor.

    • Replies: @Zane
  365. @P.T.

    It seems you are the one with the unrealistic imagination. A very very dangerous one too.

  366. d dan says:
    @Zane

    “Two countries that can’t be criticized on TUR:-”

    Of course, you can. The problem is that you have to base your criticism on real fact and evidences, which you repeatedly fail.

    “It makes you wonder, doesn’t it.”

    If you wonder why you receive all the rebuttals, which are hundred times more intelligent than your comments, then you obviously lack the intellectual capability and necessary background to be in the debate.

    Sometimes I too wonder whether people are stupid and therefore easily brainwashed to become an anti-China troll, or they are anti-China troll that makes than blind and stupid to reasonable argument. A chicken-and-egg problem?

    • Replies: @Zane
    , @Folkvangr
  367. Zane says:
    @d dan

    So, you are in favor of murderous communist dictatorships like China? That speaks volumes. A totalitarian fanboi. Noted.

    • Replies: @d dan
  368. Zane says:
    @d dan

    There was no ” China ” thousands of years ago, petal. Nation states are a relatively modern invention. Looks like you skipped history 101. What else don’t you know? Plenty, it would seem. The cat seems to have stolen your grammar, too.

  369. @Henry's Cat

    How does one measure this greater value?

    It’s not exactly rocket science in determining ‘greater value’. (Actually I’m not surprised that you ask it, seeing as socialists and communists are clueless when it comes to defining ‘wealth creation’).

    Take for example a Toyota automobile or an Apple i-phone.
    The cost to manufacture them is the sum total of the cost of the materials utilised, the energy and labour costs expended, the R & D spent etc, before said product could be brought to market.

    If the manufacturers of said products can sell it at a price that exceeds their cost to manufacture (ie: make a profit), then this is PROOF that society values said product as being worth more than the sum of its inputs.
    In other words ‘wealth has been created’.

    Many times, someone will manufacture a product in anticipation that it will be desired by consumers. In many cases they bet wrong and, rather than dump said items into landfill, they sell it (at a loss), for whatever they can get for it – sometimes getting 50 cents on the dollar, sometimes only 25 cents on the dollar back on their original investment.

    Making a loss is a MARKET SIGNAL that your product is destroying wealth and that you should cease producing it forthwith.

    There is NO SUCH MARKET SIGNALS in a Communist society.
    A select Politburo will, by decree, decide what car you drive, how much toilet paper they’ll make, the texture of said toilet paper and whether or not it will be abrasive and give your arse a rash.

    Simply put, there is NO MARKET FEEDBACK on said item being produced.
    The consumers are a captive market and have no option to purchase a product from another supplier as there would be in a Capitalist market economy where you are generally inundated with choice.

    What I’ve said above is also applicable in a capitalist economy in relation to products and services provided by the government (especially where government has a monopoly on providing said product or service – eg: the post office).

    In a nutshell:

    Government output is not subject to the discipline of price and quality competition or the need to satisfy a customer.

    When an industry is only profitable with government backing (eg: the Green energy boondoggles that require countless billions of taxpayer subsidies), it means that the industry uses resources (labour/energy/raw materials), and turns them into finished products that are worth LESS than the inputs required to make them.
    The more of these zombie industries the government supports, the poorer the society becomes.

    …. Bill Bonner.

  370. d dan says:
    @Zane

    “So, you are in favor of murderous communist dictatorships like China?”

    Non sequitur (ie. irrelevant) response. As I say, you can criticize “murderous communist dictatorships” if you want, but it has to be based on facts and evidences. Think before you write next time.

  371. d dan says:
    @Zane

    “There was no ” China ” thousands of years ago”

    LOL. Call it whatever you want. I have read enough Chinese history and know what I am talking about. Again, my original points stand: that modern Japan/Korea/Taiwan should not have nuclear weapons, and there was no “aggression” against (modern or ancient) Japan (or whatever name you call it) for a long time. You have a habit not only of claiming non-factual statements, but also unable to understand the main point of debate.

    Quite hopelessly stupid.

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    , @Malla
  372. @Truth Vigilante

    I agree the “private sector” is necessary and essential in generating a countries wealth and prosperity. That said, I’ll try and answer your questions from my perspective.

    As we all know, over the last 25 years or so, China has built its enormous network of highways, thousands of kilometres of high speed rail, numerous world class airports and transformed their cities. But that begs the question: WHY wasn’t this done 50 or 60 years ago, while Chairman Mao presided ?

    Think Maslow’s Hierarchy of needs. In order for a person, city or country to succeed, basic needs need to be fulfilled, step by step.
    https://us-browse.startpage.com/av/anon-image?piurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mdpi.com%2Fmti%2Fmti-04-00038%2Farticle_deploy%2Fhtml%2Fimages%2Fmti-04-00038-g001.png&sp=1678241694T640d1e30d182174b8858b30fe951601fae2004ad18d8edd4145ad2c2ff576700
    Mao inherited a War torn country with all wealth looted or destroyed. The remaining population was in a state of shock after 400 years of foreign rule (the last Qing Dynasty was NOT Han Chinese) and War (Opium wars, The Warlord Period wars, The Sino Japanese war and the Chinese Civil war…just ones I can recall). So, like any Engineer building something from the ground up, Mao needed time to build a solid foundation for each of Maslow’s Hierarchy of needs. I would say Mao reached Maslow’s 3rd stage out of 5 by 1980 (Physiological, Safety and Social needs).
    Maslow’s 4th stage (Esteem Needs – positive self, dignity, achievement, mastery, competence, independence, reputation, prestige) was satisfied from 1981 to say 2001; China’s entry into WTO. The remaining 23 years is China trying to reach Maslow’s 5th and final stage, perhaps still a work in progress (Self Actualization Needs – self fulfilment, unity, understanding, beauty, morality, transcendence, exploration, play).

    Rome wasn’t built in one day regardless of Economic theory/systems.

    WHY don’t third world shit holes Bangladesh and Burkina Faso do likewise today ?

    These countries are having problems fulfilling Maslow’s lowest needs. They have their reasons…one being the Hegemon is not helping.

    As for debating Prof. Hudson’s economic theories, I’m NOT qualified. You’ve had many exchanges with Mefobills on the topic so everything is in yours or Mefobills comment history. My input is based on seeing with my own eyes the progress and descent of Nations over my lifetime (decades).

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    , @SoUtH
  373. @d dan

    Not merely stupid-a vicious, race-hating, piece of Yankee excrement, simply slobbering for war on China.

  374. @Zane

    The first unified Chinese State was the Qin, two THOUSAND (plural) years ago, you imbecile racist. And China is NOT ‘murderous’-coming from a Yank that takes real hypocrisy. It is NOT a ‘dictatorship’ you cretin. It is a ‘People’s Democracy’, which is why its Government enjoys vast popular support. Back under your rock, racist.

  375. @Zane

    China had 154 million outbound tourist trips in 2019, and virtually NONE opted to remain anywhere in the ‘Free World’, much preferring home. Some possibly caught a glimpse of you defaecating on the footpath in Skid Row. It is off-putting you know.

  376. Malla says:
    @d dan

    Nuclear weapons in this day and age are defensive by nature, China should have no issue with Japan or South Korea having nukes. And also, one Korea already has nukes, the DPRK i.e. North Korea. As far as Taiwan, I agree Beijing can have issues with Taiwan getting nukes as Taiwan is officially part of PRC in Beijing’s eyes.
    If a terrorist third grade abnormal state like Pakistan can have nuclear weapons, one does not see why responsible countries like Japan and South Korea today cannot have nukes. It is Pakistani nukes which needs to be neutralised as they are a threat to all Asia.
    Indeed the only way Muricans can be made to leave that pert of Asia is if Japan and S.Korea have powerful nukes, a large number of them and with good delivery capacities. Anyhow Japan and S.Korea can be considered nuke ready, they are both such technologically advanced nations that building Nukes and delivery systems is not a big deal. Japan is already a major space power.
    Making American troops leave North East Asian is impossible without Japan and South Korea getting nuclear weapons. Or if American troops leave North East Asia, Japan and South Korea will develop nukes by default. it is stupid to expect otherwise.
    It is thus in China’s interest to allow Japan and South Korea to develop nukes and have American troops leave the region. China can then negotiate with confident S.Korea and Japan.

    China has never attacked Japan for thousands of years.

    During the Yuan dynasty it did attack Japan twice. You can say, it was the Mongol Empire but it was officially China. There was a third naval force created during Yuan to attack Japan, but it was sent to Vietnam instead where the Vietnamese skillfully destroyed it. There were even plans of invasion of Japan during the Ming period (run by Han) but was never executed. Skillful Samurai forces with their long sharp swords acted as s a deterrent.

    But of course history is history. Conditions then are not the conditions now. It is unlikely China will invade South Korea or Japan but for the same reason, it should not have any issue with these two countries getting powerful defensive weapons.

    • Replies: @d dan
    , @Deep Thought
    , @Lin
  377. @Truth Vigilante

    While what you say above is certainly a factor that contributed to the USD gaining reserve currency status, the REAL reason that the USD became the world’s reserve currency was because:

    THE U.S ACCUMULATED BETWEEN TWO-THIRDS and THREE-QUARTERS OF THE WORLD’S CENTRAL BANK GOLD HOLDINGS by the end of WWII.

    Hudson explain your points in detail in the video I linked. Not my job to explain everything in detail if the Hudson video is there for anyone to watch.

  378. Malla says:
    @dogbumbreath

    400 years of foreign rule (the last Qing Dynasty was NOT Han Chinese)

    How can it be foreign rule if today the Manchus are considered “Chinese”???
    A good chunk of China’s dynasties have been foreign but they mostly adopted Chinese systems and mentalities. That is China conquered it’s military conquerors with it’s superior culture and civilization. The Europeans were different, it is not that they were more brutal (compared to the Mongols etc…), it was that they would not have become “Chinese” had they become the rulers of China, they would have wanted the Chinese to become like them. They had a civilization confidence of their own. Had post Meiji Japan conquered China they too would not have become Chinese but had a civilizational confidence of their own. If some Samurai Army would have conquered China instead of Mongols in that period, they would ahve become completely “Chinese” in some time, but later Japan became a distinct civilization of its own.
    The Chinese had never faced something like this in their history, in their vicinity. It was a civilizational shock.
    The arrogant Hindus got a civilization shock from the British too but they had already received a major dose from the Muslims rulers before the Europeans. India had seen constant pre-Islamic invasions who wanted to rule the rich agricultural lands, but they would become completely Indian with time (and also go soft because of opulent culture of being elite). But the Muslims were different, they wanted Indians to become like them, not them become like Indians. Hence civilization shock. Never before had this happened. Followed up by the Europeans, especially the British.

  379. @SoUtH

    Notice that Xi, too, was concerned about population growth, as allegedly are our Owners. But rather than employing their evil methodology, Xi instituted the One Child per family policy. So their are ways to achieve goals that are not sinister.

    It wasn’t Xi. One child policy was implemented by Deng Xiaoping in 1980. This idea of a population growth problem didn’t originate within China since Mao Zedong (Deng’s predecessor) encouraged large families and urging women to produce offspring. It was the Malthusian’s and their NGO “The Club of Rome” who made population an issue with their book, “Limits to Growth” (1972). This “ideology” was immediately pushed on the Chinese when Nixon/Kissinger made their historic visit to China in 1972. The Chinese being gullible embraced the Malthusian concept.

    It is current president Xi Jinping who eliminated the one child policy in 2015. This was revised to 3 children by 2021. Currently there is no limit….have more children. Anyway, even during the one child policy, if a couple had more than one child then a fine would be levied.

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    • Replies: @SoUtH
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  380. @Malla

    How can it be foreign rule if today the Manchus are considered “Chinese”???

    Per Wiki, Machu’s are:

    “a Tungusic East Asian ethnic group native to Manchuria in Northeast Asia. They are an officially recognized ethnic minority in China and the people from whom Manchuria derives its name. The Later Jin (1616–1636) and Qing (1636–1912) dynasties of China were established and ruled by the Manchus, who are descended from the Jurchen people who earlier established the Jin dynasty (1115–1234) in northern China”.

    When CPC took over in 1948, the Peoples Republic of China (PRC) recognized ALL ethnic minorities (55) as Chinese but this wasn’t always the case.

    Both China and India are complex civilizations. Travelling through India decades ago, I witnessed all types of fascinating architecture left by different religions/groups (Hindu, Islamic, Rajput, Moghul, Sikh, Jain, Buddhist and Christian). European styles were evident in Government buildings like Victoria train station in Mumbai. Personally, the Jain Temples in Hampi, Karnataka were the most memorable. I’m sure the “bang lassi” played a part.

    • Thanks: Malla
  381. @Malla

    A good chunk of China’s dynasties have been foreign but they mostly adopted Chinese systems and mentalities.

    Not true when it comes to hairstyles. This is the one giveaway that the Han Chinese considered the Qing foreigners. The Manchu queue (shaved head with pig tail) vs the Han Confucius long hair (think 90’s Fabio).

    https://thechinaproject.com/2021/07/21/the-manchu-queue-one-hairstyle-to-rule-them-all/

  382. vox4non says:
    @Mehool Mehta

    LOL. Talk about deranged. Indians like you never fail to amuse with their bluster and oversized sense of self-worth/ entitlement.

    Rule and teach the world? In hygiene, social stratification (Dalits etc), sexism towards half your population not to mention the very casual attitude in treating them like sexual objects?! As at Dec 2021, India’s GDP was USD3.18 trillion and GDP per capita USD2,257. How much significance can it play when it is neither a major (>=50%) buyer / seller of commodities / finished goods?

  383. d dan says:
    @Malla

    “Nuclear weapons in this day and age are defensive by nature”

    Not true. Ever heard of nuclear first strike?

    “China should have no issue with Japan or South Korea having nukes.”

    Read my previous comment again. My objection was NOT even speaking from the point of China’s interests.

    “If a terrorist third grade abnormal state like Pakistan can have nuclear weapons”

    Pakistan wants nuke because India has it – now you see one example of the reason of my objection to further opening of the “flood” gate?

    “one Korea already has nukes”

    For your info, China supports de-nuclearization of the whole Korea Peninsula (with American withdrawal). Unlike South Korea, North Korea is not a vassal state (of China, or of Russia), so there is nothing China can stop North Korea’s nukes.

    “responsible countries like Japan and South Korea”

    That is in the eye of beholder. A country that is unable to recognize atrocious historical misdeeds and dumps nuclear waste water into ocean, is not responsible – far from it. Furthermore, what makes you (or me, or anyone) the final arbitrator of a “responsible” country? There will be 200 countries/regions competing for the status of “responsible country”.

    “Indeed the only way Muricans can be made to leave that pert of Asia is if Japan and S.Korea have powerful nukes”

    You are proposing a “medicine” that is worse than the disease. No, the best way to chase US out is continue de-dollarization of world economics. China has the patience to wait for it. If conscientious Japanese and South Koreans (who, I am afraid, is likely just a minority in their countries) want to get back their independence and have peace, they should cooperate with China to speed up the process.

    “Yuan dynasty it did attack Japan twice”

    Fine. So China never attacked Japan for a few hundred years, or for a long time, and is not a threat to them. That part we should be able to agree?

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Anon
  384. @Malla

    If a terrorist third grade abnormal state like Pakistan can have nuclear weapons, one does not see why responsible countries like Japan and South Korea today cannot have nukes.

    So! Pakistan is “a terrorist third grade abnormal state” because it was responsible for the deaths of a handful of Indians but Japan was a “responsible country” when it caused the death of tens of millions of Chinese, many of whom were killed in the most atrocious way imaginable?!

    You are letting your true self known little by little, Mallie!

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Mehool Mehta
  385. @Sarita

    Shitrita Habibi
    Why unclean and dirty, Muslim-evils (may the Gods/Devas curse them) project their rapist tendencies as well as shameless family-sexing tendencies on the people with oldest civilization on Earth, the superior Hindus?

    Women in Islam – 82% of Rapes are Committed by Close Family Members

    Muhammad’s Rape Culture

    Why the unclean Muslim-evils do this? Whyyy?

    Mehool Bhai, Mumbai.
    Waiting for Habibi. Leave evil Muzzie, become civilized and good in Bharat.

    • Replies: @Anon
  386. @vox4non

    Pox4nam bhai,
    Pox, you should know that India is poor because we were looted for 1000 years by Muslim evils and British thieves. India was most advanced culture but Muslim evils destroy everything and British stole our toilets and sanitation facilities and take them to England.
    Caste system is a very intelligent system which brought benefits to all and is the shining principle of civilized behaviour. But Muslim-evils and British thieves twist our caste system to make it evil.

    Pox see, Western thieves, Muslim-evils and Chinese devils only know destruction, they all have destructive mentalities. Hence it is very important for World peace that India becomes Vishwaguru or World teacher. Please pray and do everything possible to make this a reality as soon as possible. For benefit of World.

    Mehool Bhai, sharing wisdom to the stupid.

    • Troll: showmethereal
    • Replies: @vox4non
  387. SoUtH says:
    @dogbumbreath

    Thank you, DBB, for your correction to my noncareful comment. I had (sloppily) used the word, ‘Xi,’ as a placeholder for ‘China gov’t’ only to illustrate the fact that were the Gates-wef depopulation agenda issued out of a genuine concern for the wellbeing of the planet, then there are ways to achieve that goal that are nonlethal, nonsinister. It was a way of illustrating the fact, albeit indirectly, that there are no honorable intentions behind their various agendas: such as depopulation, climate change, and alleged food shortage- therefore- gmo- crops.

    I appreciate the fact that you corrected my historical comment in a kind way and for pointing me to references that I can peruse. Good job.

  388. SoUtH says:
    @dogbumbreath

    It is clear to me now that you have intelligent comments to offer. FYI, I had previously bypassed on reading your commentary solely because I had a low opinion of your choice of posting handle.

    I do not know if you are a Chinese-American living in this country or if you are posting from China. But from your choice of posting handle, I would tend to infer the former.

    In either case, you have taught me, by practical example: (1) the wisdom of not “judging a book by its cover” (i.e. not reading a Commenter’s posts based on his choice of handle); and (2) the fact that you have a wealth of both knowledge and history to share.

  389. @SoUtH

    Once cbdc is in place, they will crash the current financial system and cdbc will replace it. In this way, they will come to literally own (and control) everyone’s entire bank account,

    Maybe cbdc’s are only half bad? Think of transactions as two circuits. Central Bank circuit and Consumer circuit. Cbdc’s for the latter (normal people) are dangerous in the hands of a “wrong” government. However, “Sovereign” Countries (future Multi-Polar world??) need a safe and efficient way to settle trade and cbdc’s (called m-cbdc bridge project) used in that circuit to by-pass current system might be beneficial.

    https://www.ledgerinsights.com/chinas-6-state-owned-banks-part-of-m-cbdc-bridge-swift-replacement/

    Zoltan Pozsar mentions this in his Dec 27, 2022 newsletter; “War and Commodity Encumbrance”.

    Instinctually, we should be cautious of repeated “headlines”. (((They))) use a giant paintbrush to smear a “term/acronym” and attack it non-stop until everyone is convinced it’s bad and forgets to look at the details because the details are precisely what can unseat (((their))) control. Of course this can all be a rouse or 5th dimension chess and in the end we are all screwed.

    • Replies: @SoUtH
  390. Malla says:
    @d dan

    Not true. Ever heard of nuclear first strike?

    No first strike policy.

    My objection was NOT even speaking from the point of China’s interests.

    Most countries in the World would not have any issues with a nuclear Japan/ S. Korea There are many countries in Asia, that may celebrate it. Though few countries will not like it.

    Pakistan wants nuke because India has it – now you see one example of the reason of my objection to further opening of the “flood” gate?

    Japan & S. Korea are no flood gate but a dead end. There is no domino effect as it had with Pakistan. False comparision.
    As far as Pakistan having nukes because India had it, India wanted nukes because China had it and if felt threatened by an aggressive China (Indian point of view) and a hostile USA/West (Indian perception).
    Actually there is this very popular serial based on historical documents about India’s nuclear weapons development and includes Dr. Homi Bhaba and Dr. Vikram Sarabhai. The serial and thus documentsopenly shows that a hostile, unpredictable and aggressive nuclear China was seen as serious national threat by India. They ALSO show that the United States was seen as an extremely hostile entity to India. Includes the role of Indian PM Indira Gandhi.

    Rocket Boys 2

    For your info, China supports de-nuclearization of the whole Korea Peninsula

    All this is useless, since North Korea will not give up its nuke (maybe for good reason). But the fact does not change that you cannot have both, US troops leaving AND a non nuclear Japan and South Korea. Expecting such is sheer stupidity and lack of understanding of realities in that area. The moment US troops leave Japan and South Korea, they will develop nukes. Even U.S. President Donald Trump was talking about getting American troops out of North East Asia as it is expensive for the USA but he said that is only possible if Japan and South Korea get nukes. Simple As.

    • Disagree: d dan
  391. Malla says:
    @d dan

    That is in the eye of beholder. A country that is and dumps nuclear waste water into ocean, is not responsible – far from it. Furthermore, what makes you (or me, or anyone) the final arbitrator of a “responsible” country?

    You have misunderstood what I said but I will come to that later. Yes it is in the eye of the beholder. Indians/6th of humanity, a major chunk og humanity and will represetn a bigger percentage of humanity as it overtakes China in population. Indians (1/6th of humanity) consider “rogue” irresponsible nations like Pakistan and China, a threat the World and would want these two countries denuclearised. But every country has their own perceptions about other nations. yes, Eye of the beholder..

    unable to recognize atrocious historical misdeeds

    Making up trumped up charges, hyping up charges and then forcing others to accept it via emotional blackmail. The issue is very controversial and I have covered it and I am not going to go through it again. Also I have also demonstrated that Japanese textbooks today are the most Pacifist compared to the textbooks in China and the USA, a Stanford uni report. in Japanese text books, War is shown as the enemy.

    Now coming to the main point, when I meant Pakistan is not responsible it was because the country is a weak state with failing institutions, the nation can collapse and the nukes can fall in wrong hands including some psycho terrorists.
    https://cscr.pk/explore/themes/politics-governance/dysfunctional-institutions-and-pakistans-governance-crisis/
    Dysfunctional Institutions and Pakistan’s Governance Crisis

    https://theprint.in/opinion/pakistan-sees-complete-breakdown-of-state-institutions-democracy-is-all-but-dead/1396596/
    Pakistan sees complete breakdown of state institutions.-Zaheed Hussain

    India and Israel are working together on plans of how to intervene and deal with those Pakistani nukes if such a situation happens. Mossad and RAW are into it already for a while. Both Israel and India has been working together on denuclearising Pakistan for a long time out of concerns of security of Asia. Comparing a nation like Pakistan with weak institutions, a nation close to brink of collapse with stable countries like India, Japan or South Korea is ridiculous. I also ment that since Japan and South Korea are far more technologically advanced countries compared to Pakistan, making nukes is not that difficult.
    Anyways Japan is nuke ready and can easily manufacture nuclear weapons and delivery systems within six months to one year. Has enough material to make 1000 nuclear warheads.

    You are proposing a “medicine” that is worse than the disease.

    How so? There is no other option. Either US troops or nukes. Only a buffoon can fail to understand this. The moment US troops leave, they will develop nukes. Simple as. Do not be a fool to expect otherwise. A confident nuclear Japan and a confident nuclear South Korea can and will have good relations with China.

    and is not a threat to them. That part we should be able to agree?

    No, it can be only agreed upon, if both Japan and South Korea have nuclear weapons.

    • Troll: d dan
  392. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mehool Mehta

    Why do you keep on showing same old picture of your mother man bhai? Who is that man next to her ? Is that your old neighbor from Ram Temple ?

    May temple ‘s gold enrich the fuckers and help live a normal life .

  393. Malla says:
    @Deep Thought

    You have misunderstood what I have said, Check my post number 396. As far Sino Japan in WW2 I have explained provocation of Japan, CCP wanting a KMT-Jap war, Stalin wanting a Sino-Jap war, Marcopolo bridge incident, Xian incident where Chiang Kai Shek was kidnapped, Chiang Kai shek’s son hostage in Moscow.
    Also General Zhang Zhizhong, a Communist Party sympathizer staging the Oyama Incident (murder of Lt Isao Oyama) at Mao’s behest (with the Soviets behind).
    From Travels in China,Claude Farrere,1938:
    Apparently Oyama sustained fatal wounds from bullets that entered the back of his head, and died instantly. After his death, the Chinese Peace Preservation Corps inflicted further injuries: “His head was split in two, half of his face had been obliterated, and his intestines were protruding”.
    He further writes
    “The Japanese soldiers maintained a surprising degree of calmness. They followed the example set by the Roman police force — the best in the world. Not one of the Japanese laid a hand on either the automobile or the bodies. They summoned the Chinese mayor of Shanghai, and the British, French, and American police authorities, who arrived promptly.The authorities began their investigation. A Chinese soldier had been killed, and his body was lying on the road about 100 paces away. The unanimous conclusion reached after the on-site inspection was as follows.The unfortunate Chinese soldier had been shot in the back with an automatic pistol by one of his comrades. His body was then dragged to a location where it would create the impression that there had been a confrontation, setting the stage for the assassination of the Japanese.”

    Anyways, my point well explained was that Pakistan’s institutions are very weak and hence risk of it possessing nuclear weapons, which may fall into the hands of terrorists. Not because of past killings of Indians. Anyways, remember many Indians look at Pakistan as a remnant of the Islamic invasions of India, of the biggest genocide in human history. Many Pakistanis even today talk of Gazwa -e-Hind or the unfinished conquests and conversion of Indians, which means more rounds of rape, looting, murder like in the early days. Pakistan names its missiles foreign invaders(to the subcontinent) like Ghori and Gazni , who committed mass murder and destruction of Indic civilization. Interestingly the ancestors of Pakistanis also suffered with these invasions but now they have Stockholm Syndrome, where the Muslims fall in love with their Muslim invaders who raped their grand…mas, mass murdered and pillaged. Pakistanis are genetic Indians who think they are Arabs/Persians/Turks, LOL I have never seen a more pathetic case of a country.

    Anyways, all that is not important, all I was saying was that Pakistani institutions are weak and there is always risk of state collapse.

    You are letting your true self known little by little

    My true self was always open. My positions on nuclear weapons (Pakis-nah, Japs-yes) is the position all 1.3 billion Indians would have taken, but I do not speak as an Indian but an impartial human.

    • Replies: @Deep Thought
  394. @vox4non

    The Hindutva psychos are driven by intense resentment, that China has so very far outdone them, despite their groveling to the West, where they are held in racist contempt, which plays on their tiny minds. The only land neighbour of China that refused and refuses to settle all territorial questions is poor, pathetic, Punka-wallahstan. If China and India co-operated, India would benefit HUGELY, but, instead, they prefer pretending to be Whites, and licking the USA and Israel’s backsides.

    • Agree: Avery
    • Replies: @Malla
  395. @dogbumbreath

    I hate to inform you, but this IS a finite planet. We cannot, and will not, go on expanding our use of natural resources, and subsequent vast pollution of the Earth, without consequences. As nearly every vital, life-sustaining, bio-system is in collapse or nearing it, the Age of Consequences is NOW.

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
  396. Anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @d dan

    https://m.thewire.in/article/diplomacy/mauritius-affidavit-opposition-political-activist-india-spotlight/amp

    In 1983 India wanted to invade Mauritius .
    It sent troops to Maldives and Sri Lanka . It has been supporting warlords in Afghanistan until 2021 . ( SIGAR )

    It has been stealing 3 rd largest remittances from Bangajdesh .
    In its 70 years of existence , it has destroyed more mosques than Mughal or Pathan did in 500 years .
    It has engaged in systematic state initiated pogroms against Muslim , tortured and killed Sikhs and attacked Christian .
    It’s bottom 50% control less than 10% of the national wealth .
    700 millions live just above poverty .
    It’s Hunger Index as as bad as that of Sub Saharan Africa .

    This country dreams of becoming a power house riding on the coattails of US and few Indian billionaires .

    Russia and Ukraine war has deprived it of the opportunities of playing Russia against US and vice versa .
    As war grinds on , it will find that it’s friends are not buying its opportunistic positions .
    Russia will be weakened further and China will tell Russia how to deal with India .
    US knows how to cause color revolutions using
    multiple fault lines that exist in India .

    A weakened US will cause changes in Arab world leading to greater influence of the citizen in making polices . India would soon find that its anti – Muslim rhetorics would have consequences .
    One recent example was the sudden reversal and changes in stance after Arab nations made it clear that insulting Prophet of Islam wouldn’t be tolerated . India folded .

    Establishing of more legitimate democracy in Central Asia will force India to stop interfering in Bangladesh and Pakistan and force India to consider its stand on Kashmir .

    The lack of Indian Muslims ‘s voices in African Muslim countries will also change . Those countries will respond to the pressures .

    Where will India turn to ?
    Nepal ? Europe ?
    S America ?

    This geopolitical effects of Ukraine war portends bad for the RSS BJP murder inc .

    With time India’s rewritten history will be revised again .

    India is military strong but its very weak as a nation .

    India has been lying about China . Mynamar situation is bad for future of NE India . It will just get worse .

    • Replies: @anon
  397. anon[126] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    “Prof Singh’s aim in re-evaluating Sikhism’s history is to sort-out, reject, and dismiss “myths” that tend to destroy the cordial and concordant relations between Muslims and Sikhs in medieval Mughal India. Take for example his strong denial of the popular story propagated by Brahmin historians (a story that is unfortunately believed by most Sikhs as factual history) that a Pathan mercenary under the order of Emperor Bahadur Shah martyred Guru Gobind Singh. Prof Singh utilized more than one-sixth of the total pages of his book, Life of Guru Gobind Singh to prove that the story is an “Orientalist and Brahminic concoction” intended to sow discord among Muslims and Sikhs.”

    Prof Dalip Singh—an eminent academic authority on Sikh Studies, senior-researcher of Sikh Research and Education Center (SREC) based in Chesterfield, Missouri, USA—

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/muslim-sikh-relations-in-medieval-india-deconstructing-the-orientalist-myth-of-perpetual-communal-conflict/5618738

    Hindus have been busy rewriting and distorting history chronicling muslim rule in India.

    • Replies: @Mehool Mehta
    , @Malla
  398. @Malla

    Did you misunderstand yourself when you cursed the Brahmins for their mistreatment of low-caste Hindus and Dalits?! The japs of WWII saw, and treated, the Chinese and other non-jap Asians as THEIR own “Dalits”! The Dalits are Indians but the Chinese are not. So, the Brahmins deserve to be cursed but the japs praised?

    I never question the right of India to have the nuke, nor that of Pakistan, North Korea, or I-ran,… As far as I am aware, these countries never go out to exterminate tens of millions of other peoples for being subhumans– Unlike the fatherlands of the japs and germans.

    Some “impartial human!”

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Malla
  399. SoUtH says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    When I tried to reason with someone in the same logical manner as you have done in your post at [308], a kind and wise commenter issue terse reply to me that had the power of a meme. He said, “Don’t feed the trolls.” I have never forgotten that piece of wisdom. I now pass it on to you in good faith.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  400. “The vast majority of China’s newly created economic wealth has flowed to ordinary Chinese workers.”

    Ordinary Chinese workers make approximately $600 a month. That’s enough to feed and house yourself, barely.

    Chinese people are very hardworking and many are highly intelligent. This accounts for the rise of China. Whitney’s article would have been strengthened by a few facts about the country, which he clearly knows very little about.

  401. SoUtH says:

    When I tried to reason with someone in the same logical manner as you have done in your post at [308], a kind and wise commenter issue terse reply to me that had the power of a meme. He said, “Don’t feed the trolls.” I have never forgotten that piece of wisdom. I share it with you in good faith.

  402. SoUtH says:
    @dogbumbreath

    I have not yet had a chance to review the article to which you posted link because I feel pressed to get a reply out to you. I have already lost one day and I am keenly aware of the fact that after a short window, commenters don’t return to review untimely replies in face of the daily supply of new articles. But I will read what is there soon and correct any errors that I find. I will also read the referenced article.

    You separate the concept of cbdc into two categories: (1) central bank and (2) consumer. Here is how I understand the situation.

    Question: Do we currently have cbdc for category (1), which concerns international financial transactions? The answer is No. What we have is the SWIFT system that was set up by about 10 nato countries that control the IMF.

    “SWIFT was founded in 1973 with 239 banks in 15 countries. By 1977, it expanded to 518 institutions in 22 countries. In 2022, there were more than 11,000 institutional members hailing from more than 200 countries and territories.”

    So, this system is well entrenched, while cbdc is an entirely new concept — and it applies only to your category (2).

    Note also that SWIFT, based in Belgium, is not a bank and does not hold or create money. It is a kind of messaging system that allows its dues-paying members (the countries of the 11+k member banks) to transfer funds internationally. This means that as long as ones local bank is a member, a citizen of that country can transfer money from their bank account to that held by, say, a family member in another country. As the quote shows, this system has been in force since the early 1970’s. It has worked well, except for in recent times.

    The chief problem that has arisen recently is that the US has taken control over what SWIFT does or allows. It decided that IR should be cut off and did so. Even more recently, it did the same with RU. As a result, these 2 countries (along with other SWIFT members like CH) have realized that a new system must be developed so as to protect their economies from the event of arbitrary or punitive sanctions by, largely, the G7 countries — whose principal controller is the US. Note that CH, RU, IR are are refining that new system, which will allow member banks of each member country to settle accounts in their own local currencies (as did swift) and they are backing the new system to gold. Likely, no member of the new financial alliance shall have the power to do what US has done to IR & RU — all for goal to cripple a foreign country’s economy in order to exact compliance to US demand.

    Now, let us turn to your category (2) cbdc. My understanding here is as follows. It starts with the Federal Reserve Act of 12/1913. Consider the following quote:

    “I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain’s money supply controls the  British Empire and I control the British money supply.” – Nathan Mayer Rothschild

    See also the picture of the King of England at my post at [238]. Says it all.

    Officials of this country admit $30T in national debt (multiple economists put the figure much higher). The interest alone is ~$1+T per year. How is this debt going to be paid (and especially so in light of rising interest rates)? The answer to this question is the explanation for cbdc.

    I don’t want to lay all this out if you are already aware of those facts — which you should be if you are a citizen of this country. But if you are unclear on the reasons therefor or what or how things will happen, just reply and I will lay it out for you and we can discuss it.

    In the meantime, these two articles provide a really good historical background. Also of note is the very well announced WEF 2030 agenda. Put it all together and one sees a very frightening picture ahead for every US, UK, EU citizen. And it is all tied to the forthcoming cbdc.

    https://jameshfetzer.org/2023/03/joachim-hagopian-how-we-got-to-todays-precipice-the-rothschild-deep-state-cabal-is-imploding/

    https://www.unz.com/article/for-its-security-and-survival-china-must-understand-rothschild-zionism/

    Do you live in US?

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
  403. @SoUtH

    Thank you my friend, for that very good advice. And you’re right, we should just ignore them and eventually they’ll just fade away.

    You know, I do bypass most of the commentary from the worst offenders among them.
    That said, when I’ve got time to kill and I’m skimming through some of their comments, I occasionally chance upon some tidbit of B.S of theirs that is sooooo easily disprovable, I just can’t resist kicking them in the guts.

    You see, for the likes of the worst pests among these disinfo peddlers (like John’s Johnson, MeanJooJoo, J2/aka JooToo, Twinkie, Shitposter_n’_Thief, EliteCommunistInc etc), it’s not enough that I just refute what they’ve said.
    You’ll notice that, in many instances, I go out of my way to HUMILIATE them in front of the UR readership and hand out a flogging of monumental proportions.
    I do this so as to make it obvious to the newcomers visiting the site, who don’t know the history of these trolls, that said individual I’m shredding is not here posting comments in good faith.

    Simply put, I want all and sundry to be made fully aware that these individuals do what they do with malice aforethought.

    Besides, it’s fun to embarrass them. Some of the stuff they post is so preposterous, it’s really no effort on my part to eviscerate them.
    It’s literally a turkey shoot.

    • Replies: @SoUtH
  404. Lin says:
    @Malla

    During the Yuan dynasty it did attack Japan twice. You can say, it was the Mongol Empire but it was officially China

    It may be partially ‘officially’ but it such linkage has problem:
    –There’s an independent country known as MONGOLIA and the mongols will proudly tell you their ancestors had fought against many tribes, japanese included though the latter one ended in failure.
    –The british empire had invaded Afganistan twice from India and the invading armies were largely staffed by local indians.
    I wouldn’t call it Indian invasion of Afganistsn

  405. SoUtH says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Thanks for your reply. In my experience, I never took the time to refute them because it was fun. On each said occasion, I was trying to educate (as you do in many of your own posts). Then I got that wonderful terse reply that shocked me into reality. Now, I look for the “troll” posting. Those I just skip. I view the troll ID as a shorthand for: “If you reply hereto, you will be knocking at a door where no one is home ”

    So, go ahead, have your fun. It is a good training in argumentation. But do also keep in mind that there are people here who genuinely want to learn, who are still unclear about the dystopian road ahead, who would appreciate the benefits of your insights and facts.

  406. anon[322] • Disclaimer says:
    @Deep Thought

    Chiang Kai Shek was a bandit, a Japanese sidekick, an anti Chinese force , a CIA agent and a drug dealer

    Even Soviet fell for it and forced Mao to work for the rascal who then slaughtered them .

    1-“Not many people are aware that the Chinese/Taiwanese nationalist leader Chiang Kai-shek, who converted from Buddhism to Christianity, never concealed his admiration for Nazism (until Germany’s alliance with Japan during the Sino-Japanese War of 1937) and modelled his Blue Shirts in the Kuomintang on Mussolini’s Blackshirts.” https://www.newindianexpress.com/opinions/2023/mar/09/defining-fascism-in-the-indian-context-2554344.html

    2-In 1904, when tiny Japan defeated Russia and annexed Southern Manchuria. They build roads and create industries and, more importantly, they work with corrupt warlords and Chinese gangsters associated with Chiang Kai-shek’s Kuomintang Party to transform Manchuria into a vast poppy field.By 1937 the Japanese and their gangster and Kuomintang (Chiang Kai shek ’s) associates are responsible for 90% of the world’s illicit narcotics. They turn Manchu emperor Pu Yi into an addict, and open thousands of opium dens as a way of suppressing the Chinese. –Gold Warriors by Sterling and Peggy Seagrave

    3” OSS chief William Donovan and Chiang’s intelligence chief, General Tai Li, tried hard to control drug trafficking in China during the war. To ensure security for KMT smuggling operations, the Americans sent a team to Chungking to train Chiang’s secret political police force. in 1949 KMT gangsters slaughtered thousands of people of Taiwan and set up a worldwide drug ring.
    KMT forces were allowed to grow and export opium onto the black-market in Bangkok and Hong Kong. In the same way the Israeli Lobby blackmails and bribes Congress to achieve its criminal ends, the US China Lobby attacked KMT critics and launched a massive propaganda campaign citing the People’s Republic as the source of all the illicit dope that reached San Francisco” -Douglas Valentine

    4 Chiang Kai-Shek and the KMT were a glorified cabal of villainous gangsters.-

    5 Guomindang, led by Chiang Kai-shek. Urged on by the Soviet Union to form an anti-colonial alliance with the Guomindang, the Communist Party had worked with national capitalists, but by 1927, the Guomindang massacred hundreds of Communists in Shanghai and the surviving leaders fled to the rural areas of China rooting themselves among the peasantry.

    After crushing the Communist Party in Shanghai, between 1930 and 1934 Chiang Kai-shek launched a series of military encirclement campaigns against the Chinese communists in an attempt to annihilate (them politically and militarily) especially in their base area in southeastern China. The Communists successfully fought off major campaigns using tactics of mobile infiltration and guerrilla warfare developed by Mao. In the fifth campaign, Chiang mustered about 700,000 troops and established a series of cement blockhouses around the communist positions.—Horace Campbell is Professor of African American Studies and Political Science, Syracuse University.

    6 The exiled Kuomintang (KMT) army of Li Mi was as much a proprietary of the Central Intelligence Agency as Civil Air Transport. Installed in Burma, this army was armed by the CIA, fed by the CIA, and paid by the CIA. In later operations in Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam the CIA used it as a labor pool. Under this patronage and protection the KMT was able to build up its opium operations in the area of Southeast Asia known as the Golden Triangle.

    As a result, the KMT became a pivotal force in the Asian opium trade.

    7 In 1926, when Chiang’s northern expeditionary forces were attempting to sweep across central and northern China. As Chiang’s troops approached Shanghai, the city’s labor unions and Communist organizers rose up in a series of strikes and demonstrations designed to make it easier for Chiang to take control of the city. But Chiang stopped his march outside Shanghai, where he conferred with envoys from the city’s business leaders and from Tu’s gang. This coalition asked the Generalissimo to keep his forces stationed outside Shanghai until the city’s criminal gangs, acting in concert with the police force maintained by foreign businesses, could crush the left.

    Chiang finally entered Shanghai, he stepped over the bodies of Communist workers

    8 In 1937 the Generalissimo’s wife, Madam Chiang, went to Washington, where she recruited a US Army Air Corps general named Claire Chennault to assume control of the KMT’s makeshift air force, then overseen by a group of Italian pilots on loan from Mussolini.Chennault resigned his commission, went on the KMT payroll, and set up operations in Nanking, where he worked side by side with Chiang Kai-shek and Tai Li. For nearly four years Chennault’s tiny air force lurked discreetly, ceding the air space of China to the Japanese imperial air force.

    After the (WW2 war, Chiang and Tai Li welcomed into their ranks dozens of warlords who had collaborated with the Japanese.

    6,7,8–Whiteout: the CIA, Drugs and the Press.

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  407. unzrocks says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    I have a simple answer to your question on this topic:
    —————————————————
    But that begs the question: WHY wasn’t this done 50 or 60 years ago, while Chairman Mao presided ?
    WHY don’t third world shit holes Bangladesh and Burkina Faso do likewise today ?
    —————————————————
    Because China 50-60 years ago were mostly a peasant society of fishermen and farmers who didn’t know a damn thing about science and industries. Same can be said of present day Bangladesh and Burkina.

    Do you know how to build or design these items (like a graphics chip like NVIDIA, write an operating system like Windows Server, or build a cell phone or car or airplane or robot?). Most likely not. It takes an army of world class scientists, engineers, and designers to create, innovate and produce the awesome technologies we have today (from hi-tech to medicine to financial).

    The same can be said about building a bridge, a railway system, an airport, a shopping mall, a high-rise office building, etc. So the past 30+ years, China have industrialized by educating and producing millions of scientists, engineer, designers in all fields of the hard science (the scientific revolution / method / research and development / testing, etc.). They learned and caught up really fast to the major scientific powerhouses (namely the US, Europe, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan).

    Are there any world class scientists, engineers and designers in Bangladesh and Burkina Faso? Don’t think so. So if they want these awesome technological marvels of the world, they will have to pay foreigners to come in and build it for them. But that cost money since no one works for free. So Bangladesh isn’t exactly a resource rich country (they don’t have OIL and GAS or much of anything to offer in trade for anyone), so they are screwed since they can’t build or design anything from scratch themselves and no one is going to come in and build it for them for free without getting something in return.

    And since most international trade is done in US dollar, Bangladesh cannot print US dollar to save their ass since they can only print their own local currency which is worthless and no one will take it. So Bangladesh will either have to create products and goods that the US wants to buy so that Bangladesh can export those goods to the US in exchange for US dollars. Or Bangladesh will have to borrow US dollars from the World Bank and be in forever debt to the US controlled financial system. But since Bangladesh has very little to offer, the US isn’t going to be lending them much US dollar in the first place. So Bangladesh is caught between a rock and a hard place, meaning stuck in a cycle of poverty and destitution.

  408. @mulga mumblebrain

    I hate to inform you, but this IS a finite planet. We cannot, and will not, go on expanding our use of natural resources, and subsequent vast pollution of the Earth, without consequences. As nearly every vital, life-sustaining, bio-system is in collapse or nearing it, the Age of Consequences is NOW.

    I respectfully agree and disagree. Life on Earth requires balance in Nature. Today, man has only drilled into the Earth’s crust 12 kms (7.5 miles). The crust is “supposedly” up to 70 kms thick. Then we “supposedly” have a mantle (2900 kms thick), outer core (2200 kms thick) and inner core (1500 kms thick). If you are honest, “WE” know nothing. So, are ALL natural resources finite? Sorry, as the Scam-demic has proven, computer models are unreliable. For now, I can say with certainty “man-made” pollutants (toxins, chemicals and waste) are bad. GMO food is bad. Over-consumption is bad. Waste in general is bad. However, having humans cannot be bad because it is only “human ingenuity” that can overcome mans negative contribution to the balance of life.

    https://cynthiachung.substack.com/p/what-determines-a-limit-to-growth?utm_source=%2Fsearch%2Flimits%2520to%2520growth&utm_medium=reader2

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  409. @SoUtH

    I’m a Nomad. I function best where there is sun and warmth. As for cbdc’s and blockchain technology, I’m illiterate. As with all things, the “current rulers ” can use it for good or bad. When I see institutions like BIS (clearing house for Central Banks) and WEF, I’m skeptical because these institutions are not monolithic. Within are “patriots” and “traitors” to humanity. Countries are the same so it’s a non-stop struggle between the two forces. Human ingenuity can swing the pendulum in favor of one side; perhaps “blockchain” does this for the good guys.
    Anyway, regarding the USA’s 30T debt. What makes you think they will pay up? As I see it, no one “rational” can make them pay? As this point, it’s only digits in a mainframe. The “new” World is moving towards “multi-polarity” and trade using “Sovereign credit” and resources. I can only hope the days of neo-liberal, US dollar hegemony, debt based “private” Central Banking are history.

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  410. @unzrocks

    Are there any world class scientists, engineers and designers in Bangladesh and Burkina Faso? Don’t think so.
    So if they want these awesome technological marvels of the world, they will have to pay foreigners to come in and build it for them. But that cost money since no one works for free.

    Thanks for CONFIRMING what I’d written earlier.

    As I mentioned before, socialists, communists, statists and proponents of Big Government in general, always put the cart before the horse.
    They all assume that the training of the workforce, industrialisation, massive infrastructure expenditure etc, can all be carried out by government edict and THEN, due to this benevolent and far sighted government, the nation will go on to become prosperous and wealthy.
    This is SELDOM the case.

    Yes, it occurred in the Soviet Union between the wars (at least the industrialisation part took place – not so much the prosperity).

    But it came at great expense in terms of lives lost/societal disruption.
    Stalin needed foreign industrial expertise, machinery and know-how to turn his country into a manufacturing colossus in the late 20’s and early 30’s.
    At a time when commodities, grain and agricultural prices on world markets were heavily depressed due to the Depression, he sold off grain and farm output to the west to fund his industrialisation.
    But in doing so he STARVED MILLIONS of his fellow citizens to death in the Holodomor.

    The Soviet Union was fortunate enough to be endowed with an abundance of natural resources that greatly assisted in Stalin’s plans and said government decreed industrialisation would not have been possible but for this fortuitous stroke of good luck.
    But, for any other country that is not fortunate enough to be sitting on a literal gold mine (eg: OIL wealth in the case of Saudi Arabia and Norway or Iron Ore/coal/gold etc in the case of Australia), for all other countries wealth must FIRST be generated in the PRIVATE SECTOR, and only then can said wealth generated be used to build infrastructure, train scientists/engineers etc.

    Burkina Faso, Bangladesh and numerous other countries are stuck where they are because their private sector was not unshackled from wealth generating restraints like government corruption, government related impediments, an unsound and fast depreciating local currency, crippling debt loads (also a function of their governments) etc.

    You write:

    So the past 30+ years, China have industrialised by educating and producing millions of scientists, engineer, designers in all fields of the hard science (the scientific revolution / method / research and development / testing, etc.).

    You make it sound like the Government, by decree, did the industrialising FIRST, and then China became wealthy.
    Every third world tinpot leader and his dog knows that training scientists/engineers, establishing world class universities and importing technical expertise (with which to train your workforce) from the leading industrial nations, is the way to prosperity.
    But FIRST you need to generate wealth through the private sector to FUND said grandiose plans.

    You say that:

    So Bangladesh isn’t exactly a resource rich country (they don’t have OIL and GAS or much of anything to offer in trade for anyone), so they are screwed since they can’t build or design anything from scratch

    Of course, if a country has natural resources and commodities to export, it has a head start and a good platform from which to build wealth.
    BUT, countries like Japan and Singapore are testament to the fact that one can build enormous wealth WITHOUT the endowment of natural resources.
    They achieved their economic miracles through their work ethic, their prudent financial management and propensity to save for a rainy day (ie: living frugally/below their means, unlike the profligate U.S for example).
    Said savings were then funnelled into capital equipment purchases that enabled them to be more productive.

    SUMMARY: The key to economic prosperity is saving. The Japanese, the Germans, the Swiss, Singaporeans and numerous other successful nations have always had a propensity for living frugally, living below their means and saving the surplus.
    The role of government is to get out of the way and ensure that there are INCENTIVES for the private sector and households to save* their money.
    (*Big spending governments that have too many parasites employed in the public sector invariably divert precious and finite capital to government and thus deprive the private sector of funds that could be used more efficiently, that would otherwise generate sustainable growth and employment).

    This is nicely encapsulated by the brilliant financial commentator Doug Casey:

    ” If you’re penalised for saving, you’re going to do less of it.

    You’re going to go out and spend the money now on a bigger house, a new car, or perhaps a wild party.

    This is one reason why Third World countries never progress on their own. Their currencies are unstable, worthless, and not worth the trouble of people saving them.

    So, they never develop a capital base. It’s why poor people with bad habits stay poor ”

    And of course the currencies of said third world countries become worthless FOR A REASON.

    And that reason is that their governments always PRINT TOO MUCH OF THEIR CURRENCIES.
    They need to do this to fund Big Government, to fund grandiose infrastructure and profligate government boondoggles that invariably are a bad return on investment and impoverish the nation.
    These governments borrow and spend like a drunken sailor and leave a legacy of indentured servitude for future generations.

    The people in government all over the world are individuals with NO BUSINESS ACUMEN and thus don’t know how to run an organisation efficiently.
    That’s why they should never be entrusted with any more than a minimal share of the nation’s GDP.

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  411. anon[208] • Disclaimer says:

    Suddenly the wolf pack of capitalism has started gloating about underdeveloped countries ’s pain in the guise of the analysis of their failing .

    How did Cecil Rhodes become rich ?How did Lord Clive become rich ?
    How did Forbes become rich ?
    how did Rockfeler become rich?
    How did Facebook ,google, and Amazon become rich ?
    How the fuck US mange to become rich and industrialized ?
    How did dollar become reserve currency ?

    How ddi the oligarchs of Russia become billionaires in a span of 4 years in Russia?
    How did Adani of India become the richest person on earth ?

    Capitalism is built on the back of the local people ruthlessly and built on the externalities – illegal mining deforestation ,plantation , cheap labor, tariff, trade barriers and coup suffered by the Asia Africa and Latin America in addition to plain looting ( examples , in case of America : Haitian gold and Japanese -Korean gold stolen by CIA from Phillipines . Many other examples in this decade abound ) aided by IMF and WB in last 70 yrs .
    Today it cant compete as it couldn’t compete with Japan in 1980s until it solved it by simple corruption and threat . China Russia India Indonesia Brazil S Africa Turkey and resources rich countries of Africa and latin America are standing up as challenges to that nefarious way of doing business .
    so what do US and UK do? They embark on war.
    How did US and EU solve the financial ingenuity of Ghaddafi threatening dollars and France’s economy ? It destroyed the nation .

    Singapore solved its dire situation worse than what Bnagaldesh was in 1972 by embarking on state -managed and state owned capitalism .

    Sweden and Finland are more socialist than Venezuela has ever been .

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  412. @unzrocks

    I believe the stat for 2028 is that China then will need 80 million Engineers.

  413. SoUtH says:
    @dogbumbreath

    RE: your comment:

    “Anyway, regarding the USA’s 30T debt. What makes you think they will pay up?”

    The Owners of the debt ain’t gonna forgive that debt or pretend that it does not exist. There is only one way to pay it and that is the road that they have put us on.

    The Owners of both the debt and the Fed is, largely, the Rothschild family bloodline. They think not in terms of their own lifetime or that of their family; nor in terms of their own generation but, rather, in terms of their bloodline. If not paid in this generation, then it shall be paid down the line. The process of being paid has already started.

    You say, “[I]t’s only digits in a mainframe.”

    Not so. When one takes out a mortgage “it’s only digits in a mainframe” so to speak. But what happens if one defaults on their digits-in-a-mainframe mortgage loan? They take your house and car and bank account and jewelry and every hard asset in your possession.

    All loans are collateralized.

    The reason why I asked if you are in US is because your (nomadic or otherwise) geographical location shall determine your future.

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  414. @anon

    You write:

    Capitalism is built on the back of the local people ruthlessly …. Haitian gold and Japanese -Korean gold stolen by CIA …. blah, blah …

    What you’ve described above is NOT Capitalism. What you’ve described is THEFT and can be conducted by any regime run by criminals, irrespective of their political ideology.

    Capitalism is all about VOLUNTARY EXCHANGE, where buyers and sellers meet in the marketplace and negotiate mutually agreeable terms for the exchange of their products and services.
    It is conducted in a Free Market without Government Interference, without government imposed sales taxes/tariffs,/quotas/trade impediments, without government imposed mandates and a crushing regulatory burden that jacks up the cost for all parties.

    You also state: ‘Today it cant compete as it couldn’t compete with Japan in 1980s until it solved it by simple corruption and threat’.

    I assume by ‘it’ you refer to the U.S.S.A (United Socialist States of America) ?

    Well, that acronym says it all. The U.S is no longer a bastion of Capitalism as it once was in the 130 or so years between it’s creation after the Revolutionary War and the creation of the Zio owned Federal Reserve.
    During that period when government as a percentage of GDP was negligible, when there were NO Income or corporate taxes levied, when the U.S was on a Gold Standard and as such the government could NOT debase the currency by excessive creation of the currency to fund profligate boondoggles like they do today (you can’t print gold).
    During this period real wealth was created for a broad cross section of American society in what was, for the most part, a meritocracy.
    ALL demographics benefitted from that wealth and more of the lower classes (in percentage terms) were lifted out of grinding subsistence poverty than in any society in all of human history – either before or since.

    As parasitic Big Government got larger and larger in the U.S during the 20th century (esp. in the aftermath of the disastrous LBJ era), the U.S has descended to where it is today – a Socialist shit-hole.
    Hence the reason that it is in the precarious position it is today and the need to start wars and threaten other countries, all as a MEANS TO DISTRACT THE IGNORANT MASSES from the failures of its socialist policies over many decades.

  415. @anon

    Prof Dalip Singh—an eminent academic authority on Sikh Studies, senior-researcher of Sikh Research and Education Center

    Hahaha, Khalistani Professors. Bhai these are Khalistani Professors on the pay of Pakistan whose aim is to destabilise and break up India. Obviously they will write rubbish like this to satisfy their Pakistani masters. Anybody with any understanding of history will know about the brutality the Muslim-evil Mughals committed on the Sikhs.
    Sikhi is based on certain gurus. The Sikh gurus from Guru Nanak, the founder of Sikhism, succeeded by nine other gurus. Two of these Sikh gurus , Guru Arjan and Guru Tegh Bahadur, were executed by order of the reigning Muslim-evil Mughal emperors. and close kin of several gurus (such as the seven and nine-year old sons of Guru Gobind Singh), were brutally killed, along with numerous other main revered figures of Sikhism (such as Banda Bahadur , Bhai Mati Das, Bhai Sati Das and Bhai Dayala), who were also tortured and killed by foreign Muslim-evil Mughal rulers for opposing the brutal persecution of Sikhs and Hindus.Subsequently, Sikhism militarised itself to oppose foreign Muslim-evil Mughal hegemony.

    This is well cover here.

    Mughal Persecution of Sikhs | Medieval Indian History

    Khalistani Professors on the pay of Pakistani masters are good at hiding Muslim-evil behaviour to please their pay masters.
    Mehool Bhai.

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  416. anon[419] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mehool Mehta

    Hoooo hooo hoo
    Mehlooo Mehlooo
    Did Aadesh Singh have your mother as his teacher ? Did he get his PhD in lying from her?
    Are you still on pay of Aadesh Bhai ?

    Hooop Hooo
    Mehlooooo, stuck in his loo.

  417. @Deep Thought

    Deep Throat Bhai,
    Hello Bhai, Mehool Bhai here
    Malla Bhai is traitor kind who support Muslim-evil demons against Great peaceful Bharat (India), support Western/ British Imperialist thief against Great peaceful Bharat (India) and support Chinese Imperialist devils against Great peaceful Bharat (India). But lately we see improvements in him and he is now slowly supporting good of his motherland. There is hope with him.
    Deep Throat Bhai, MallaBhai speak correct. Porkistan is a abnormal bandit country full of terrorist as they have DNA of smelly barbarian, who never bathe and invade India to loot and destroy Indic culture. How they become Muslim evils when their ancestors were Hindu? Their great grandmothers were loose prostitute kind and spread legs to smelly (no culture of bathing) foreign muslim barbarians. Hence barbarian mleccha DNA go inside their blood. We Hindus are not product of rape and thus come from clean line (no dirty barbarian arbi, farsi, uzbecki and turki blood in us Hindus, Sikhs, Jains) and our female line is of those women who had character. Our women would jump in fire in jauhar when Muslim rape army was nearby.
    So Deep Throat Bhai, they cannot have nuclear bombs as they are unhinged types and bandit nature in DNA.
    Deep Throat Bhai, on the other hand Japaaan is the steel brother of Bharat. We always support our brothers and they will be provided nuclear bombs from Bharat. We in Bharat know the cunning Chinese bully, we have long experience. I am sure Chinese bully Japaaan, Korea and Vietnam also. All of them thus need nuclear bomb to protect from big bad bully, China the backstabber. They are our Bhai log.

    Yours truly from Mumbai,
    Mehool Bhai.

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  418. Folkvangr says:
    @d dan

    If you wonder why you receive all the rebuttals, which are hundred times more intelligent than your comments

    There is nothing intelligent about calling someone “a hundred times less intelligent”, unless that someone worked hard to earn this. Besides, I don’t feel obligated to educate anyone about basic, established facts like the genocidal nature of communist regimes. If you support those regimes, past and present, you are an evil totalitarian POS. End of story. lol

  419. Malla says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Here comes mulga the monkey with his jabberings. Hindutvas are not any more anti-China than other Indians. All Indians (incl Muslim Indians) hate China because they look at Chinas an Imperialist evil country (not my personal belief). Hindutva is more interested to remove the “four foreign evils” from India and later the entire Indian subcontinent (Bharat Varsha), who they see as greater India or “complete India”.
    What are the four foreign Evils to be scrubbed clean
    1] Angloism, Britishism, Western Liberalism
    2]Islam and all traces of its influence
    3] Marxism and all traces of its influence
    4] Christianity of any kind

    They have nothing to do with China. Indeed they inherited their hatred for China from earlier Indian nationalism.

    despite their groveling to the West,

    More bullshit farting of Chinki monkeys. This India as sepoy fo the West is nothing but Chinese gas farting as they cannot digest the fact that 1.4 billion Indians look at them as evil Imperialists.
    India was allied to the USSr but India is Western sepoy. China allied with the USA but China is no Western sepoy. pakistan was always an US ally, Pakistan helped USA in logistics to Afghanistan, but Pakistan is no sepoy. India supported Russia in the recent war but India is sepoy.
    This is the monkey farting logic these buffoons have. The truth is this is nothing but a Chinese technique to blackmail India to do waht it wills and if India does not listen to China’s dictats, they accuse India of being sepoys of the West.The problem is theses Uncle tom tick is overused and well known through out the Third World and Indians use this all tha time including on pro China Indians. The Chinese seem to tbe the most childish nation in the World in the way they behave.

    Check out the comment of this Indian guy in this video

    Duhhhhhh commented
    “These are some of the most important rules for fellow Indians that they will ever know
    1.never trust west
    2.never trust China

    3. you can afford forgetting your name but not rule no 1 & 2″

    In this video where the Australian PM Anthony Albanese is onboard India’s Aircraft Carrier INS Vikrant where he receives the Guard of Honour

    Abhishek Singh commented

    “The quad is only for containing China not more than this.. If they think, India will change their stance on Ukraine – Russia war.. They should think twice.. We were non-aligned to either of the blocks in the past and will be in the future..”

    How is this sepoy of the West. bBeing anti-Chian does not make one sepoy of the West.

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  420. Malla says:
    @Deep Thought

    The japs of WWII saw, and treated, the Chinese and other non-jap Asians as THEIR own “Dalits”!

    B.S. False comparision. All this “Japanese looked at Chinese like dalit” propaganda had been soundly debunked by the commentator An0n and me in this page.
    https://www.unz.com/article/one-billion-americans-or-one-billion-consumers-fundamental-questions-for-matt-yglesias-before-we-can-review-his-book/

    The instigation was done by the CPC because they wanted a war in between the KMT and Japanese Empire. Thus their agent staged the assassination of Lt Isao Oyama. The Omaya Incident, the murder of Lt Isao Oyama, commander of the Western Detachment, Shanghai Special Naval Landing Force, is the incident that precipitated the Second Battle of Shanghai and the full scale escalation of war between Japan and the KMT in China, and thus WW2.

    “At about 1830 on 9 August, Lt Isao Oyama, commander of the Western Detachment, Shanghai Special Naval Landing Force together with Seaman 1st Class Saito, the driver, were murdered by the Chinese Peace Preservation Corps while riding in an official car on the road outside Hung-Chiao Airfield in the western part of Shanghai. Diplomatic negotiations, as usual, made no progress. The incident was used as an excuse by both sides, however, and a sharp increase was made in the forces. Eventually this resulted in the clash in Shanghai.”

    Lt. Isao Oyama (27 years old), commander of the 1st Company of the Shanghai Special Naval Landing Force and 1st Seaman Yozo Saito were killed by (allegedly) members of the Chinese Peace Preservation Corps on Monument Road in the extension of the common concession at about 18:30 hours on 9 August 1937 (fact). It is still unknown whether Oyama attempted to enter the military airport there. But as it was told in Peter Harmsen’s book “Shanghai 1937: Stalingrad on the Yangtze” Zhang Fakui, the commander of the Chinese right wing, said the Japanese marines fell in a Chinese ambush and were killed, after that in order to simulate it was self-defense action, they brought a Chinese convicted to death dressed in military clothing and executed him with a shot in his neck.

    The Japanese already controlled most of North China. The Imperial Japanese Army (IJA) was more concerned with the Soviet Union which they regarded as the primary military threat. The IJA had no desire at that time to expand the war into eastern and central China. It was hoped that a confrontation with the Japanese in Shanghai with it’s large international community and significant foreign business interests, would engender sympathy and support for the Chinese cause.

    There were 30,000 Japanese civilians in Shanghai and considerable business interests, including a large number of factories and warehouses. When the Oyama incident occurred there were only about 300 Japanese SNLF troops guarding the Japanese interests in the city, but Zhang Zhizhong had approximately 30,000 KMT troops outside of town. If you were Japan would you provoke an incident at this time or wait until you had more troops on the ground?
    In Moscow, Soviet Union, however, Soviet leader Joseph Stalin had a different design. He wanted to expand the Second Sino-Japanese War as quickly as possible in order to mire the Japanese Army in the vast Chinese interior, thus reducing the chance that Japan could divert its resources to attack Russia so that he could move West towards Europe. Until the powerful Japanese threat in the East was diverted elsewhere, he could not move towards Central and Western Europe. Through the 1930s, USSR had been planting agents in China, and what Chiang did not know was that Zhang Zhizhong was among them. To Chiang Kaishek, Shanghai was strategically important, for it guarded the mouth of the Yangtze River, upstream of which lay the capital city Nanjing, and it was a major industrial center. Chiang’s first attempt at safeguarding this city was to prevent the war from escalating to that location. Stalin, however, ordered the opposite, demanding Zhang to provoke the Japanese. Obeying Stalin’s orders, Zhang repeatedly sent Chiang plans for invasions into the Japanese zone in Shanghai, which was guarded by only 300 Special Naval Landing Forces troops with no sign of being reinforced in the future. Chiang rejected every request, and Zhang knew that the only way to achieve his orders from Moscow was to create a situation in which the Japanese would fire the first shot, so that he could advance without disobeying Chiang’s orders.

    “Mao: The Unknown Story” Jung Chang and Jon Halliday, 2005
    “..Zhang staged an incident outside Shanghai airport, where a Chinese army unit,which he himself specially stationed there, shot dead a Japanese marine lieutenant and a private. A Chinese prisoner under sentence of death was then dressed in Chinese uniform and shot dead at the airport gate, to make it seemed the Japanese had fired first.”

    Within one year of the start of the Sino-Japanese war, mass mobilisation starts in the USSR and very soon, confident that Japan’s forces were tied down fighting the KMT, the Soviets had confrontation with Finland, later the conquest of the three Baltic nations of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia and later Poland, Moldova etc.. And then mass mobilisation of Soviet troops on it’s Western border something first noticed by Hungary and Romania who notify Germany. Third Reich Germany busy fighting Britain, suddenly sees a huge Soviet buildup on its Eastern border and thus Germany, Romania, Hungary, Finland and two other countries are forced to launch a pre-emptive strike against the USSR.

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  421. @Zane

    Wow – I’m sorry but that is one of the most ignorant statements I have read on Unz. “China” comes from the “Qin” dynasty which existed well over 2000 years ago. Call it 2500 years ago. Even US Netflix carries a series called Qing Dynasty. You should go watch and learn some history. It is dramatized – but the “big picture” stuff is accurate

  422. Dream says:
    @Malla

    Here comes mulga the monkey with his jabberings. Hindutvas are not any more anti-China than other Indians. All Indians (incl Muslim Indians) hate China because they look at Chinas an Imperialist evil country (not my personal belief). Hindutva is more interested to remove the “four foreign evils” from India and later the entire Indian subcontinent (Bharat Varsha), who they see as greater India or “complete India”.
    What are the four foreign Evils to be scrubbed clean
    1] Angloism, Britishism, Western Liberalism
    2]Islam and all traces of its influence
    3] Marxism and all traces of its influence
    4] Christianity of any kind

    All these Chinese nationalist accounts here are probably the alt of one single, completely retarded guy. You have told them a gazillion times that Indians hate both the West as well as China, yet these retards keep repeating like parrots “But but India is a slave of the West”. These wumaos are perpetually seething and jealous of Whites and can’t understand that non-white nations like India can hate China without worshipping Whites.

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    , @Malla
  423. @anon

    #3. Don’t forget the Japanese didn’t used Taiwan as a trans-shipment point for all their opium. That’s why when the KMT got back Taiwan for China they were able to easily convert the program. Many of the Green Gang from Shanghai moved to Taiwan and the original Opium colony of the Brits – Hong Kong – when the KMT left Nanjing for Taipei. Of course they took their drug dealing connections.

    You wrote a great historical summary overall

  424. @Truth Vigilante

    Just a quick quibble. Japan first developed under the Meiji Restoration thought. Then when that wasn’t enough they became imperialists to get more wealth. Industrial companies like Mitsubishi basically functioned like arms of the state. After WW2 they absolutely had industrial policy though. Singapore likewise absolutely had industrial policy. Even their sovereign wealth fund is directed toward promoting certain industry.

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  425. @anon

    Correct – though the “Japanese” gold was mostly robbed from China primarily and Korea secondarily

  426. @SoUtH

    Sorry….my reply to you regarding 30T debt was wrong/incorrect.

    What I should have wrote is, of the 30T debt, the “foreigner owned” portion of the Public Debt (24 T) will not be paid (IMO). No “foreigner” can force the US Gov to pay. Likely the debt will be inflated away or defaulted.

    I have zero debt and no plans to live permanently, own property or own assets in the USA. I have no idea how the National Debt situation will affect your average American but my gut feeling is many people at minimum will be screwed out of their pensions. Inflation will likely eat away at whatever savings most people have. Having an escape plan before the SHTF would be wise foresight. As WEF likes to say, “you will own nothing and be happy”. “Private” interests (like Rothschilds, Blackrock, etc..) will end up buying everything pennies on the dollar and regular folks will be back on the plantation like it was 600 years ago.

    And we haven’t even included the “derivatives” time bomb.

  427. @showmethereal

    After WW2 they [Japan] absolutely had industrial policy though. Singapore likewise absolutely had industrial policy. Even their sovereign wealth fund is directed toward promoting certain industry.

    SMTR, I appreciate your critique. You’re a sincere bloke/(blokette ?) and your commentary is always thoughtful.

    In relation to Japan and Singapore, the state did indeed ‘direct’ the emphasis of where industry should be focused.
    That said, theirs was a relatively light touch in that they didn’t stick their noses into the everyday workings of the private sector and micromanage every aspect of their activities.
    In other words, in the case of Japan for example, they sat down with the Captains of Industry and said (for example):

    ‘We want the automobile manufacturing output to increase four fold in the next ten years, and we want at least two-thirds of that output to be vehicles that will be EXPORTED and thus earn valuable hard currency’.
    OR …
    ‘In the case of the shipping industry, we want you to manufacture such and such a tonnage of vessels within a certain time frame and then asked the leaders of industry what base requirements were needed to achieve those goals’.
    ie: removal of regulatory impediments, suppression of wages of the skilled workers so as to achieve lower overheads (manipulation of the exchange rate to keep wages lower than they otherwise would be can achieve that outcome*), government subsidies and/or removal of taxes levied by government on inputs like energy/petrol etc.

    (*For example, in the case of China, a Chinese worker gets many wage increases in yuan denominated terms over a period of many years and may thus feel that he’s moving forward, but in USD terms his wages may not have increased at all or perhaps actually fallen during that period).

    Importantly, they [the government] didn’t burden the private sector with a crushing regulatory maze that made the cost of doing business greater – as they do in the U.S.S.A.

    Let me use an analogy that is appropriate. I’m Australian so will bring up an individual called Kerry Packer – Australia’s richest man around 20 years ago.

    He smoked, he drank, was morbidly obese (around 125 kg/275 pounds) and was a huge gambler. (The big Vegas and Macau casinos referred to him as a whale – perhaps the King of the whales – He lost $17 million in one night on the tables in Vegas and there are countless occasions where he lost multiple millions in a single sitting. He did also win millions on many an occasion as he was an astute Blackjack player).

    So from a ‘Cause and Effect’ standpoint, a layman might assume that :

    Smoking/Drinking/Gambling to excess = the road to riches.

    Of course the fact is, Kerry Packer achieved his great wealth DESPITE these other activities that no doubt detracted from his wealth accumulation.

    SUMMARY: Countries like Japan and Singapore have done well post WWII and did indeed have ‘state guidance’ that pushed them into pursuing activities (eg: manufacturing in the case of Japan) that the state wanted to promote.

    But the Japanese and Singaporeans are industrious peoples with a tremendous work ethic, having frugal lifestyles and an enormous propensity to SAVE (saving is the KEY to accumulation of sufficient funding for CAPITAL INVESTMENT).
    In addition, said peoples (like the Chinese) have boundless entrepreneurial talent.

    Simply put, Japan/Singapore/China are all success stories, DESPITE the government intervention and squandering of resources on projects that only incompetent bureaucrats and government officials would have dreamed up.

    Absent the Government intervention, these countries would have been EVEN MORE SUCCESSFUL AND PROSPEROUS.

  428. anon[750] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dream

    well, I disagree. Some of Indians seem surly proud of being colonized by the Brithish master.

    exhibition 1

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  429. @Malla

    B.S. False comparision. All this “Japanese looked at Chinese like dalit” propaganda…

    More house-niggery. Being members of the Aryan family, Pakistanis are more deserving as recipients than the fake-Aryan japs.

    • Replies: @Malla
  430. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Chiang Kai Shek was a bandit, a Japanese sidekick, an anti Chinese force

    How rubbish!!! It was Chiang’s KMT which did most of the fighting against the Japanese Imperial forces. The Chinese Communist Party (CPC/CCP) were hiding in the mountains like cowards, gaining strength for the coming civil war. Those few times the CPC forces fought the Imperial Japanese Army, they were beaten like a drum. But now the CPC government brainwash the people that they were the “heroes” who fought the Japanese. LMFAO
    https://thediplomat.com/2014/09/the-ccp-didnt-fight-imperial-japan-the-kmt-did/
    The CCP Didn’t Fight Imperial Japan; the KMT Did
    While the KMT military defended China against Japan during WWII, the CCP built up strength for the civil war.

    “The CCP has long claimed credit for having tirelessly defended China from the Imperial Japanese army. This couldn’t be further from the truth, however. As I have noted elsewhere, Japan’s invasion of China saved the CCP from Chiang Kai-shek and the KMT, and ultimately allowed Mao to defeat the KMT in the ensuing civil war. Indeed, by the end of 1934, the CCP was on the verge of extinction after KMT troops delivered another heavy blow to the Red Army in Jiangxi Province, which forced the Party to undertake the now infamous Long March to Xi’an in the northwestern province of Shaanxi. Chiang initially pursued the Communist forces, and would have almost certainly delivered a final blow to the CCP if war with Japan could have been delayed. As it turned out, Chiang was not able to put off the war with Japan any longer, and domestic and international pressure forced him to accept a tacit alliance with the CCP against Japan.
    By the CCP’s own accounts during the war, it barely played a role. Specifically, in January 1940 Zhou Enlai sent a secret report to Joseph Stalin which said that over a million Chinese had died fighting the Japanese through the summer of 1939. He further admitted that only 3 percent of those were CCP forces. In the same letter, Zhou pledged to continue to support Chiang and recognize “the key position of the Kuomintang in leading the organs of power and the army throughout the country.” In fact, in direct contradiction to Xi’s claims on Wednesday, Zhou acknowledged that Chiang and the KMT “united all the forces of the nation” in resisting Japan’s aggression.

    While the KMT were busy uniting the country and fighting the Japanese military, CCP forces spent much of the early part of the war hiding in the mountains to avoid battle. As the KMT was decimated by the Japanese military, it was forced to retreat further south.

    It was also quick to seize the areas that the Japanese army was vacating, and seized the Japanese equipment. In fact, in some instances it even forced the Japanese soldiers to join the Red Army (the KMT did the same). Of course, the war not only allowed the CCP to grow much stronger, but it also greatly depleted the Nationalist’s strength. This allowed the CCP to prevail easily in the civil war.

    This was not by accident but by design. The CCP had a choice: it could have prioritized defending the country against Japan during the war, or it could have prioritized seizing control of China from those who did fight the Japanese. It chose the latter. Meanwhile, by choosing to actually try to defend China against Japan during the war, the Nationalists handed the country to the CCP afterwards

    According to Soviet military advisers stationed in CCP-controlled areas at the time, the CCP also used this land to grow opium to fund its growing operations.”

    LMFAO. The Chinese Nationalists fought the Japanese Imperial Army while the Communists were hiding in the mountain like cowards and growing opium.

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  431. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Sweden and Finland are more socialist than Venezuela has ever been .

    This is commonly touted by American and British leftists but is compeltely false. Scandinavian countries are primarily capitalist.

    https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/the-myth-scandinavian-socialism
    The Myth of Scandinavian Socialism

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/10/27/nordic-countries-not-socialist-denmark-norway-sweden-centrist/
    Nordic Countries Aren’t Actually Socialist

    I remember this video on Youtube where a a Swede commented that Sweden is not really socialist and an American leftist commented back that they know it but need to say this to fool their opposition!!!

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  432. @Vidi

    So Russia’s sanitation level is about the same as the US

    That is, of course, excluding the number of homeless people, whose sanitation levels can only be described as atrocious.

    The USA has half a million homeless people on a population of 331.9 million people, that’s 0.15% of the population that lives in atrocious squalor.

    Russia has only 64 thousands homeless people on a population of 143.4 million people, so about 0.04% who live in squalor.

  433. Malla says:
    @Deep Thought

    More house-niggery.

    Nothing of that sort. Stop childish tricks and grow up

    Being members of the Aryan family, Pakistanis are more deserving as recipients than the fake-Aryan japs.

    LOL. What does this have to do with anything I said? Are you on drugs?

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  434. Malla says:
    @anon

    well, I disagree. Some of Indians seem surly proud of being colonized by the Brithish master.

    Low IQ idiot spotted. Comparing Indians from 1899 to Indians post 1947!!! Wow.
    Liston idiot, every Empire in history, the constituents fo the Empire have fought or contributed to the Empire and the Empire provides peace and protection in return. Chinese fought for the Mongol Empire, Koreans fought for the Japanese Empire, Morrocans fought for the French Empire, all kind of non Romans fought for the Roman Empire, all kinds of non Persians fought for the Persian Empire, Hindu Rajputs fought for the Mughal Empire. Nothing strange with Indians fighting for the British Empire. That is how most Empires in history work.
    After 1947, India is independent. Comprende and has been a major anti-colonial nation. Indeed that is what China crashed into, India’s anti-colonial revolutionary mentality. That is why China is looked as the “new British Empire” by Indians and Chinese companies in India are looked at suspiciously by the masses and are accused of being new East India Companies.

  435. Malla says:
    @anon

    Bullshit, Mughal persecution of Sikhs largely explains why the ferocious warlike Sikhs supported the British during the mutiny of 1857 against the mutineers. That is because the mutineers wanted to bring back the Mughal Empire. In all likelihood the mutineers forced the poor old Mughal Emperor to become the leader, against his will. But the threat that the Mughals would become powerful again was enough for the Sikhs to oppose the mutineers vehemently.

    There were other reasons also. There were three Presidential Armies which made up the British East India Company forces in India. The largest of these was the Bengal Army, which is the one which mutinied, the other two grand armies, the Bombay Army and the Madras Army in the south refused to mutiny against the Company Sahib inspite of provocation and propaganda. The Bengal Army was the largest, most powerful and it was the army used in the operations in North India by the Company Sahib. After the death of Emperor Ranjit Singh, the Sikh Imperial forces foolishly (Emperor Ranjit Singh, the Sikh Emperor had warned against making war on the British) invaded British Imperial lands which led to two wars. In these wars, the Bihari and Bengali soldiers of the British EIC Bengal Army peeed in their panties and ran away screaming like little girls when they faced the bigger, ferocious Sikhs. Only the White British soldiers and Nepali Gurkha soldiers stood their grounds and fought the Sikhs and their Afghan Pathan/Pastun allies. After fighting a series of ferocious battles, the Sikhs accepted defeat and their Pathan/Pastun allied forces ran away screaming like little girls back into the hills of Afghanistan, terrified by the defeat the British had inflicted on them at the Battle of Gujrat.
    The White British and the Sikhs fought each other ferociously, with bloody encounters and many casualties on both sides but they ended up respecting each other’s martial skills and bravery.
    But when the Sikh Empire was absorbed into the British Empire, it were these cowardly Bihari and Bengali soldiers who were now posted in the regions of the Sikhs. These Eastern soldiers (Purbias – Biharis/Bengalis) who ran way in battle were now lording over the Sikh population and acting like assholes. Purbias means “Easterners” and was used as a term by the Sikhs to describe Biharis/Bengalis originating from the Eastern regions of Bihar and Bengal but the term was not for the Gurkhas even thought the Gurkhas came from the East as well, from Nepal.
    The Sikhs were like, “you Purbia pussies ran away from battle, it was only because of the White British and Gurkhas you have conquered us, and now you arrogantly lord over us, you bully us and treat us like shit”. So when these same Purbia sepoys rebelled/ mutinied against the British Company Sahib, the Sikhs would not support them, had no pity for them.
    And the plan by the mutineers to bring back the Mughal Emperor as a symbol of their resistance was the straw that broke the Sikh camel’s back. No way were the Sikhs gonna allow the Mughals back, after all the persecution and brutality the Sikhs faced under Mughal rule. That is why the Sikhs supported the British against the mutineers. THEY DID NOT WANT THE MUGHALS BACK IN POWER AT ANY COST.

  436. @Anonymous

    Using the anti PRC “diplomat” as a source is your first problem. The Chinese PEOPLE are smarter than you and your sources. Chiang and his KMT were more interested in killing communists and extortion and drug smuggling than fighting the Japanese. The Chinese PEOPLE knew that and that’s why they turned against him. Many many KMT soldiers left the KMT and joined the PLA for that reason. You people know nothing about China

  437. vox4non says:
    @Mehool Mehta

    @Mehool Mehta

    Hahaha. How puerile – calling names. Is that all you can do? Or maybe that is all you can do.

    When was the last time the Muslims ruled India, and when did the British leave it? It has been 76 years since. That’s the equivalent of 3 generations, and how much has India done?

    Caste system is intelligent? When it denies people social mobility and forces people into fatalism? So, if I was born a Dalit, I should hope to die and be reincarnated as a Brahmin? I mean what’s the point of trying hard if I am going to be stuck in this lifetime? No wonder there’s a malaise among the lower classes, and they make up the majority. So, how will the economic energies be unleashed? Apart from a few key cities, how far removed are the rest from the 19th century?

    By their deeds you shall know them. India has been meddling in all of its neighbours, and even suppressing the locals of the north-east region (7 sisters). In fact, the British did them a greater injustice in attaching them to the artificial construct called India.

    Ask the Sri Lankans, the Nepalese, the Bhutanese how they think of the overbearing demands you do over them. Even the Afghanis who were initially receptive of India, has now cooled seeing the true colours of India.

    You are right that India can be a teacher – in what not to do. LOL.

  438. @Anonymous

    The Chinese Communist Party (CPC/CCP) were hiding in the mountains like cowards, gaining strength for the coming civil war.

    Your yapping makes no sense. Given below is from an Indian commentator who has common sense, which you lack:

    DAULATRAM in reply to New Conservative Jun 13th, 01:22

    My fundamental sense of reality, of what cannot be true, forbids me to accept that a Chinese Red Army practically idle for years in base areas behind the Japanese lines proved to be masters at warfare after 1945, utterly crushing far better armed KMT forces and forcing the mighty US Army into humiliating retreat in Korea.
    .
    If Mao and his generals fought so little, according to you, why were they so incredibly good in the battles no one denies they did fight? If so idle against the Japanese, why so good against the KMT afterwards and against the US in Korea?
    .
    As the Germans say: He who tries to prove too much proves that he is wrong.
    .
    I think the KMT propagandists and their suckers will have to abandon this line of attack.
    .
    My own sense of how things happened is that the Red Army fought and fought extremely hard against the Japanese, with heavy losses, mostly in small unit guerrilla actions. That is how they built up a large force of experienced soldiers with a highly capable and tested command. Had they simply sat safely in base areas without fighting they would have degenerated and would not have been a force that could take the field successfuly in 1945.
    .
    Common sense should tell you that idle armies do not win wars with experienced ones, especially when the latter are much better armed.
    .
    Look what happened to the Indian Army in 1962 when, after years of no battle experience, it faced a Chinese force that had much more recently been in action in Korea. The Indians were walloped. (Ironically, a much bigger defeat in terms of losses happened to the Chinese PLA in 1979 when after many years of no war except Cultural Revolution mayhem it tried its mettle against the Vietnamese.)

  439. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    You will be surprised to know that an American guy told me the false idea that it were the CCP were the ones who primarily fought the Japanese is what is taught in many American colleges. it is surprising how much pro-Marxist American education system is.
    The CCP fooled the Japs and the KMT good, got them to fight each other. The KMT was very similar to the CCP in the beginning but later they turned against the Communists. Chiang Kai-shek declared in a manefesto:

    “We cannot allow the Communists to make China the experimental field for Communism and cause millions to die without reason. The tactics of the Bolsheviks are to stir up mob violence through wholesale destruction in order to seize political power. . , If we allow their horrible politics to prevail all will be brought to nought.”

    Even had the KMT taken out Mao, the Soviets were going to use other means of trying to screw the KMT….. unless the KMT changed sides and became anti-Japanese and then it would be the Americans who would try to screw them. And the Americans backstabbed the KMT later in the civil war anyways. The Japanese Empire had developed and industrialized Manchukuo, when the Soviets conveniently discontinued the Soviet-Japanese Cooperation pact and conquered a very weakened and surprised japanese Army in Manchuria, all that industrial wealth was looted and given to the CPC. But even after all that the KMt were about to finish off the CPC a second time in Manchuria and this time the USA stepped in to save the CCP.

    Harry Truman sent Marshall to China. On December 15, 1945 his directive is to form a coalition government between the free Chinese and the Chinese Communists. Marshall’s entire mission was one of convenience to the Commies. Before he went to China, the Communist occupied a very small portion of China. Their Army numbered less than 300,000 badly equipped troops. When Marshall returned from China to be rewarded by Truman with an appointment as Secretary of State, the Communist -controlled area had greatly increased. The Communist Army had grown from 300,000 badly equipped troops to an Army over 2,000,000 relatively well-equipped soldiers. The testimony of General Marshall corroborates the conclusion that an arms embargo by the USA was used in an attempt to force Chiang Kai-shek to admit Communist elements into the Government.

    The Institute of Pacific Relations (IPR) probably more than any other single factor, conditioned out people to abandon the mainland of China to the Communists. When Edward C. Carter became the chief administrator, July 1934, welcomed the USSR as a new member. The American branch of the IPR grew rapidly and prospered, boasting over 1,000 members. The Rockefeller, Carnegie foundations gave millions of dollars. J.P. Morgan, Shell Oil, International Business Machines, British Lever Brothers and many others. The IPR has been an organization whose chief function has been to influence United States public opinion on Far East matters. The Senate Subcommittee has concluded that the IPR has been neither objective nor nonpartisan and that since the mid 1930s, the net effect of the IPR activities on United States public opinion has been pro-Communist and pro-Soviet, and has frequently and repeatedly been such as to serve international Communist Chinese Communist and Soviet interests, and to subvert the interest of anti-Communists. The the Japanese branch of the IPR was used as a spy ring for Soviet Communist and the Soviet Red Army. Elizabeth T. Bentley a former operator in the underground movement of the American Communist Party , mentioned that her superior, Jacob Golos, referred to the IPR as “…. Red as a rose….”

    These actions gained wide acceptability, if not outright approval, by a controlling percentage of policy-makers, scholars, writers, and other molders of policy and opinion. The wartime activities of the IPR even penetrated the White House when Lauchlin Currie became executive assistant to the President and special advisor on Far Eastern affairs. Currie was responsible for setting up a conference in Washington, on October 12, 1942, between himself Sumner Welles, then Under Secretary of State, and Earl Browder( head of the Communist Party USA) and Robert Miner, then officials of the Communist Party. John T. Flynn made a study of thirty books dealing with the political conditions of China. He found that twenty-three of these books were pro-Communist, seven were anti-Communist. He explains the whole subject with this interesting statement: Every one of the 23 pro-communist books, where reviewed, received glowing approval in the literary reviews…. That is, in the New York Times, the Herald Tribune, the Nation, and the New Republic and the Saturday Review of Literature and every one of the anti-Communist books was either roundly condemned or ignored in the same reviews.

  440. Malla says:
    @Dream

    You have told them a gazillion times that Indians hate both the West as well as China

    ,
    “India is sepoy of west” Bullshit these idiotic Chinese NEED, emotionally and for their cunning strategic propaganda
    1] how do you explain to your own people that a billion plus Indians look at China as an Imperialist dog country?
    2] used in anti-India propaganda among third World countries to weaken India’s national interests and relationships. Chinese were not happy with India taking up a prominent position in thrid World affairs after our Independence.
    3] Used as a way to bully India to sacrifice her own interests and to tow the Chinese line. It is because they think they are Middle Kingdom and India is inferior. Either Indis is in China’s camp or it is sepoy of West. Like George W Bush, you are either with us or against us, mentality. They think India does not have the ability and prestige to be an independent pole. They obviously look down upon India and this had started way back when.
    4] A complete misunderstanding of the British Raj.
    Interestingly the Chinese Commies are very similar to Hinduvadis in their mentality.
    The comedy thing is this will have zero influence on India’s foreign policy and what the Chinese are really facing is India’s mass anti-colonial mentality against itself. The masses of India look to China as an Imperialist bitch and Indians consider themselves the resistance against hegemon China. This is not going to change for atleast a century as it has been hardwired into Indian brains.

    You know very well how much anti-British Empire propaganda is there in our Indian history textbooks and how anti-British Empire our media is. Why would out Government brainwash us with hatred for colonialism and British Empire, if they were “sepoys of the West”? It makes no sense at all. Indeed Indians have been brainwashed with the greatest dose of anti-Colonialism mentality IN THE WORLD by our Government, even far far more than China. You know how anti-West, Indians have generally been. It is only China’s actions and behaviour which has made India do the impossible, become more friendlier to the West, that is it. Only China did this.

  441. Malla says:
    @anon

    How did Facebook ,google, and Amazon become rich ?

    The more important question is why are they pro-marxist and pro Leftists? Why are these American Capitalist Corporations pro-Leftist? Why are so many American right winged channels purged but left winged channels left alone by these American Capitalist Corporations? Why are anti-CPC videos regularly demonetised by these American Capitalist Corporations?
    These are the important and puzzling questions.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/google-gmail-favors-left-wing-candidates-conservatives-spam-study
    Google’s Gmail favors left-wing candidates, sends far more emails from conservatives to spam: study

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7020081/Googles-left-wing-media-bias-CNN-New-York-Times-Washington-Post-favorites.html
    Google’s left-wing media bias

    How the fuck US mange to become rich and industrialized ?

    The USA was a very prosperous society way before the American War of Independence. Even British generals who fought the American Revolutionaries comment about the great prosperity and wealth of the American people in their books. It was the result of a very high IQ, high trust, innovative and hard working Northern West European population with a sophisticated culture, a culture which valued hard work and healthy Protestant values. That was the secret of America’s early success.

    How did dollar become reserve currency ?

    You have to partly thank the Communists for that. A pro-Soviet pro-Communist Jewish American, Harry Dexler White was a key player in the Bretton woods conference and the decision to make the US dollar as the reserve currency.

    https://www.vox.com/2014/8/24/6057119/harry-dexter-white-ben-steil
    This Soviet spy created the US-led global economic system

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/03/14/how-a-soviet-spy-outmaneuvered-john-maynard-keynes-and-ensured-u-s-global-financial-dominance/
    How a Soviet spy outmaneuvered John Maynard Keynes to ensure U.S. financial dominance

    Pissed about the American domination of global economy? You have a Commie sympathizer to thank that for.

    How did Adani of India become the richest person on earth ?

    China Russia India Indonesia Brazil S Africa Turkey and resources rich countries of Africa and latin America are standing up as challenges to that nefarious way of doing business .

    Are you a baboon? Are we dealing with a low IQ rambling baboon? Modi’s India is standing up to Western Capitalism as a member of BRICS but Adani is an evul capitalist. Interestingly Adani is very close to Modi. Both Adani and Modi have been targetted by George Soros. Are you on drugs? Whatever it is, it is good.

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  442. @Malla

    Stop childish tricks and grow up

    Stop being dishonest and remove the race bias you apply when judging injustice and terrorism.

    What does this have to do with anything I said?

    None if race is not used as a classifying factor on the question of who the aggressors or victims are.

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  443. @Malla

    How did dollar become reserve currency ?

    You have to partly thank the Communists for that. A pro-Soviet pro-Communist Jewish American, Harry Dexler White was a key player in the Bretton woods conference and the decision to make the US dollar as the reserve currency.

    I’m not familiar with the specific machinations of Harry Dexter White in relation to that, but whatever they were, they were negligible in relation to the NUMBER ONE REASON the USD was granted world reserve currency status (which outweighs ALL the other reasons combined) .

    The USD obtained reserve currency status at Bretton Woods in 1944 because the U.S, by the end of WWII, had accumulated BETWEEN TWO-THIRDS and THREE QUARTERS of the world’s central bank gold.

    To simplify it in layman’s terms, one need only reference the Golden Rule. ie:

    HE WHO HAS THE GOLD, MAKES THE RULES.

    Meanwhile, the Chinese and Russian central banks have been accumulating gold like there is no tomorrow these past twenty years and their combined gold holdings are rumoured to be many multiples of that which the U.S holds (assuming the U.S has remaining any of the 8100 tonnes* it claims to have).

    (*The U.S refuses to conduct an audit of its gold holding as former Congressman Ron Paul and others have requested on many occasions – the last one was done almost 50 years ago).
    Hmmm, if you actually have the gold, why would you be afraid to do that audit ? Strange, isn’t it ?

    Bottom Line: At a time of their choosing, China and Russia will announce their true gold holdings to the world. Immediately the world will recognise the yuan and ruble as the world reserve currences and the USD will be relegated to the dustbin of history.

    Also, relative to their population, Switzerland has a substantial gold holding. The financial markets are well aware of that already – hence the reason that the Swiss franc has fared so well these last 50 years and will continue to do so well into the future.

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  444. Malla says:
    @Deep Thought

    I still do not understand what you are saying? Seriously, what is going on with you? You seem to have lost it and mumbling some stuff.

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  445. Malla says:
    @showmethereal

    Then when that wasn’t enough they became imperialists to get more wealth.

    That would be a stupid idea, modern Imperialism does not get you much wealth but you end up losing wealth. Modern Imperialism (colonial period) was a costly affair but a cost they were ready to pay because of inter-European competition for trade monopoly followed by inter European competition for CONTROL (not looting) over some resources or strategic locations which could be denied to their European rivals in case of a military or economic confrontation. Colonial period was inter-European rivalry overflowing into the rest of the World because by 1500 Europe had become sooo powerful. Later the USA and Japan joined in the competition. It was never about making money, it was about control and power to deny your opponent or if denied by opponent, you have reserves. All of them lost boatloads of money in this endeavour.
    Any advanced society invests in any backward population in these modern periods (which started few centuries back), you risk losing money and being hated for all the good stuff you have done. Most non-setter colonial Empires were advanced societies ruling over backward populations. Very expensive, very little returns, lots of ungratefulness because of envy from the backward populations. Best avoid.
    The reason we do not have this anymore is because of the American Navy supports freedom of the seas since WW2.

  446. Malla says:
    @Mehool Mehta

    Their great grandmothers were loose prostitute kind and spread legs to smelly (no culture of bathing) foreign muslim barbarians. Hence barbarian mleccha DNA go inside their blood.

    Mehool Uncle, that is not true. Check out Rajib Khan’s research. Only 1% of South Asian Muslims have Turkic, Uzbek or Persian ancestry and they no Arab ancestry. Only some specific groups like the Mopplah have Arab ancestry or else it is very much absent from the subcontinent.
    So those light skinned, sharp featured elite Nawabi Muslims you see, they are primarily upper caste Hindu converts, they are just Brahmin + other upper caste Hindu converts to Islam. Remember the Brahmani Sultans who fought the Vijaynagar Empire, they were Brahmin converts to Islam.

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  447. @Malla

    You won a prestigious award in America.

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  448. @Malla

    Don’t bother. Malcolm X never expected Uncle Tom to be able to follow his line of thought either!

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  449. Malla says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    You won a prestigious award in America.

    Noooooooooo. I have nothing to do with this, I want nothing to do with this.

    It got an oscar because it is gay.

    https://www.livemint.com/news/india/is-rrr-a-gay-love-story-this-oscar-winner-thinks-so-11656945056453.html
    Is RRR a gay love story? This Oscar winner thinks so

    https://www.filmfare.com/news/bollywood/rrr-labeled-as-a-gay-classic-by-western-audiences-ram-gopal-varma-reacts-54304.html
    RRR labeled as a gay classic by Western audiences
    Many Indian Twitter users labeled RRR as a queer film shortly after its release.

    So, I have nothing to do with this and will not touch it even with a long pole.

  450. Malla says:
    @Deep Thought

    Don’t bother.

    In general I am least bothered but what is bothering me is your wierd abnormal comments lately, full of gibberish and mumblings. You have this inner NEEEEED, this inner DESIIIRE to bother the one and only Malla with your deranged, incomprehensible, incongruous, irrational, muddled and puzzling mutterings.
    So Mr Malcolm X had some issues with his Uncle about his thinking about lines. I have no idea, how I could be of any help in such an unfortunate situation and why I even need to know this. II hope Mr.X and his uncle had agreements on their thoughts on circles.

    Anyways since you mentioned Mr Malcolm X, let us see what he said about Jews.

    So Malcolm X says the “Whites” in Murica exploiting American blacks were actually Jews!!!

  451. So Malcolm X says the “Whites” in Murica exploiting American blacks were actually Jews!!!

    So, if it isn’t the Chinese it must be the Jews?

    ===>. If Mallie is not a white, he must be an Indian. 😀

  452. Malla says:
    @vox4non

    Even the Afghanis who were initially receptive of India, has now cooled seeing the true colours of India.

    Actually it is the other way round. Contrary to what was expected with the withdrawal of American and allied forces from Afghanistan, Indo-Taliban relations have improved while Pak-Taliban relations have deteriorated. LMFAO. The Paks even while supporting the US forces in Afghanistan with logistics, jumped with joy as the Taliban took over Kabul, after all they created the Taliban. But it all ended up in tears for Pak.
    Not only does the Taliban not accept the Durrand line as the border in between Afghanistan and Pakistan (Why Sino no criticize iron brother Pak for keeping British Imperial borders? Why Pak not called “sepoy”?), now the Taliban claims that Pakistan is not an Islamic country and now wants to export their strict version of Islam to Pakistan. LOL. There is this terrorist group called TTP (the Pakistani Taliban). Till now Pakistan has been blaming India (maybe for good reason) for supporting TTP but now it is becoming clear that Afghan Taliban is now supporting the TTP. The Afghanistan Govt wants to export it’s version of Islam to Pakistan. Pakistan is furiously building a border fence with Afghanistan to prevent cross border movement of terrorists, which the Taliban disapproves of as many Pathans/Pastuns live in Pakistan too. Indians are laughing till their stomachs burst, it ended as comedy for the Indians but sad tragedy for Pakistan.
    Anyways, the type of Islam the Taliban follows is of the Deobandi school which rose in British India, in my state of UP.

  453. Malla says:
    @vox4non

    Taliban-Pakistan Rift Caught On Camera: Soldiers From Both Sides Clash At Spin Boldak Border

    Pak embarrassed as Afghan Grand Mufti calls it an ‘un-Islamic’ state, backs Taliban’s ‘Jihad’ against Pakistan
    Afghanistan’s Grand Mufti has backed Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) in its fight against Pakistani state and slammed his Pakistan counterpart Mufti Taqi Usmani for his Fatwa against Jihad in Pakistan. Mufti Zahid Aziz Khel countered Taqi Usmani that Pakistan is an Islamic State and that any armed movement against it is against Islamic rulings.

    ‘Taliban an Indian proxy’: ISIS mouthpiece echoes Pakistan on TTP as attacks surge
    Islamic State Khorasan Province (ISKP) mouthpiece Al-Azaim Media has lashed out both Afghan Taliban and Pakistan Taliban. The 133-page ISKP-linked booklet accuses Pakistani Taliban of being an Indian proxy. The TTP is an ally of Afghan Taliban which is at war with the Islamic State Khorasan Province.

  454. Joe825 says:
    @Decoy

    It’s not particularly debatable. They had a 1 child policy for decades. And since they did away with it they’ve failed to substantially increase the birthrate. The upside-down population pyramid is going to be a big problem. Do you think there has ever been a 1 child policy in a country anywhere near that populous before? Google china demographics collapse, there are tons of articles on it.

  455. Joe825 says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Calling someone a racist based on nothing, very original. What do you think a 1 child policy is? It’s borrowing from the future. Economic boom now, decline in the future. It’s obviously built in. And only commies would be arrogant enough to do it for as long as they did without foreseeing the disastrous consequences. Regardless, you can Google about their demographic problems. A lot of people see this coming, you’ve fallen behind.

    This guy gives a pretty scary prediction.

  456. @Joe825

    Joe, why are you posting anything from Peter Zeihan ?

    This guy is a KNOWN CIA disinfo peddler for the Anglo Zionist empire.
    You might as well be listening to Rachel Maddow, such is the level of OBVIOUS B.S that thus guy continually spews.

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  457. @Joe825

    Zeihan, in my opinion, is a pig ignorant, racist, Sinophobe moron-like you. What you don’t and can’t understand is that future Chinese generations will benefit from lower population density and an environment being restored, while machines do much of the production.
    Meanwhile, in the slob dystopia of the USA, that you represent so well, rivers of piss and shit will flow freely down the ‘sidewalks’ and roads. You’ll be right at home.

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  458. @vox4non

    Just ask the people of Kashmir, living in a Hell of Hindutva viciousness, aided and abetted by those masters of repressing restive Moslems-the Zionazis.

  459. Joe825 says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    geez, I really struck a nerve. The problem is that they went to an absurd extreme with the 1 child policy and the population will decline far too quickly and they’ll have way too many old people. I kind of wonder if covid was an attempt to cull their own elderly.

    There’s a personality type that needs to believe some super-country is going to take over the world. It was Japan for a while and it didn’t happen, it was China for a while, and now we’re seeing it’s not going to happen, who’s next?

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  460. Joe825 says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    He’s a bit dramatic and I don’t know a whole lot about him but even without him it’s easy to find out that China is in steep demographic decline. Would you dispute that a one child policy for several decades would lead to that? And they’re having a hard time getting people to have more than one. And in big cities it’s less than 1. Is any of that false? I don’t know if the over-counting is true but it sounds plausible enough.

  461. @dogbumbreath

    The Club of Rome in its ‘Limits to Growth’ report predicted both resource depletion, which has been delayed a little by technological advance like fracking, and a pollution crisis, like the heavy metal and radio-nucleide and toxic chemical pollution produced by fracking.
    As long as we follow the cancer cult of capitalism with its ultimate priority being unlimited growth forever, we MUST eventually succumb to poisoning by pollution. Humanity could overcome this catastrophe, and many are working to do so, but just as many are simply little metastases who do not care what happens after they are dead. It’s not the quantity of humanity that counts, but the quality.

  462. @Joe825

    So what? It’s low everywhere in the advanced world. China will be fine because they have a meritocratic leadership, not a bunch of corrupted psychopaths as in the West. You are just engaging in wishful thinking regarding China’s fall. a real lifestyle for frightened racist supremacist Sinophobes. Peter Zeihan is about your intellectual level. I bet you love Gordon Chang, too.

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  463. @Joe825

    You’re a pretty typical racist buffoon, aren’t you. CoViD19 was a bio-warfare attack by elements in the USA, on China. China did REMARKABLY well in protecting its elderly, unlike the West where hundreds of thousands died horrible, lonely deaths, prevented from being with their relatives, and euthanised by midazolam and opioids, so your FILTHY assertion that it was a ‘culling’ is not just a lie, but projection as well. And patients in the West were denied life-saving re-purposed medications like HCQ and IVM, in order to protect BigPharma profits.

  464. @Joe825

    You wrote:

    ‘He [Peter Zeihan] is a bit dramatic and I don’t know a whole lot about him but even without him it’s easy to find out that China is in steep demographic decline. Would you dispute that a one child policy for several decades would lead to that?’

    ‘Bit dramatic ?

    No, the phrase you’re looking for to describe Zeihan is ‘Bald faced liar’.
    Pretty much anything he has to say is courtesy of his propaganda agenda, so no likelihood of getting any objectivity from this dick.

    As for the ‘demographic decline’ you speak of, have you forgotten that China has 1.4 billion people?
    If the population tapered down to 1 billion or better still to 600-700 million over the next 50 years, that would be a GOOD THING for China.
    Factories are becoming more and more automated, with greater employment of robotics on the assembly line.
    China, and for that matter any other country aiming to be a technological Goliath, does not need more unskilled workers doing menial jobs.
    All it will need in the manufacturing facilities of the future is a critical few that are highly skilled/trained.
    In conjunction with their northern neighbours, the Sino-Russian partnership is ALREADY the Super Hegemon of the planet and there will be no challengers to contest that title for the remainder of this century – and likely well beyond that.

    ‘Quantity’ is not the determining factor in assessing whether or not a society will be successful, but rather the ‘Quality’ of its citizenry and their individual productivity and work ethic.

    The U.S has 330 million people today (including countless millions of illegals).
    Can you honestly say the U.S is better off in 2023 and more productive (witness the hordes of homeless living in tent cities throughout America and defecating in the streets of San Francisco and elsewhere), than it was in the immediate aftermath of WWII when its population was half as much ?

  465. @mulga mumblebrain

    Mulga, you made an obvious typo in your comment. Let me correct it for you:

    As long as we follow the cancer cult of CRONY CORORATISM/SOCIALISM with its ultimate priority being unlimited BIG GOVERNMENT forever, we MUST eventually succumb to poisoning by pollution.

    After all, as anyone who’s not in a coma will attest, there is precious little Capitalism going on in the big end of town.

    And there’s no question that the world has genuine pollution problems, all of which could have been rectified for a fraction of the trillions the world has squandered on trying to fix a NON PROBLEM. ie: the rise in CO2 concentrations which overwhelmingly is the product of Mother Nature and fluctuates WITHOUT the input of mankind.

    It’s just crazy that some are actually trying to reduce concentrations in the atmosphere of CO2, the GAS of LIFE.
    Because greater CO2 concentrations are GREENING THE EARTH and increase crop yields per hectare of arable farmland.
    If the Earth can get to around 800 – 1000 ppm of CO2, that would be ideal. The planet would be a lush paradise of abundance with absolutely NO DOWNSIDE, since we know with certainty that CO2 is no more than an infinitesimal determinant (and that’s being exceedingly generous), of average Earth temperatures.

  466. phil says:
    @JR Foley

    The most reliable estimates of average living standards historically have been those of Angus Maddison’s research group. Those estimates do not support what you say.

  467. phil says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    China is much less capitalistic than the US, which has its own problems.

  468. phil says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    There is definitely more cultural rot in the US.

    When I was in China in 1989, there was still some starvation. Market incentives definitely improved agricultural productivity, just as they have in Russia, which is now a major exporter of wheat.

    I still see homelessness in China at urban construction sites. Workers from the countryside sometimes sleep on-site before moving to another construction site later on.

    You need to get around the Chinese countryside, where hundreds of millions of poor people still live.

    In Shanghai circa 1960 my father-in-law saw people suffering from scurvy, and he himself (a law professor) could only afford to live on someone else’s balcony.

  469. The hundreds of millions of poor people who still live in the countryside also own their homes, as do the migrant workers you see at constructions sites.

  470. @Joe825

    The Family Planning Policy (there never was a ‘one-child policy’ produced in a 800% raise in real income for everyone, a 1.5 point boost in national IQ, and the biggest investment (of money not used to provide new infrastructure for extra children) in education ever.

    China’s population will re-stabilize at replacement level soon and, since productivity doubles every decade, incomes will continue increasing rapidly.

  471. @mulga mumblebrain

    The Club of Rome in its ‘Limits to Growth’ report predicted both resource depletion, which has been delayed a little by technological advance like fracking, and a pollution crisis, like the heavy metal and radio-nucleide and toxic chemical pollution produced by fracking.

    Humans have the potential to invent, improve and make better technological choices thus eliminating man-made pollution and resource depletion. As of today, nuclear has the greatest source of energy density. 300 grams (size of a white marsh mellow) can provide 80 years of energy consumption for 1 person. Fracking and oil consumption (last centuries technology) requires roughly 1760 barrels of oil for 1 person over 80 years. There are technologies yet to be invented which can solve human’s negative impact; nuclear fusion, fusion torch and fusion plasma torch. Politics is preventing human research and ingenuity:

    https://cynthiachung.substack.com/p/what-determines-a-limit-to-growth

    As long as we follow the cancer cult of capitalism with its ultimate priority being unlimited growth forever, we MUST eventually succumb to poisoning by pollution. Humanity could overcome this catastrophe, and many are working to do so, but just as many are simply little metastases who do not care what happens after they are dead. It’s not the quantity of humanity that counts, but the quality.

    Philosophically, humans have already found ways to live in balance which overcomes the cancer cult of Capitalism (i.e. Buddhism). We are witnessing the pendulum of life at the other end. Wanton greed, consumerism and waste resulting in unnecessary amounts of man made pollution. Realize the current situation is temporary because many people in the developed and developing World feel no sustained peace or joy. A change in human philosophy and consciousness will happen naturally since the pendulum always swings back the other way. Even the cancerous segments of Capitalism has it’s way of helping the process (think Pharma and mRNA jab). Just look at people in the West. Over weight, over medicated with prescription drug (toxins), in debt, no lasting love/romance/children, no happiness, stressed, this ALL leads to an early death. No need for the Club of Rome’s invisible hand. The quantity die off and the quality (wise) survive. Nature has a way of balancing itself naturally. If you haven’t noticed, man cannot kill Nature because man is not god (weeds keep coming back). Live the life you wish to see and the quality people will follow.

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  472. @dogbumbreath

    Live the life you wish to see and the quality people will follow.

    Last line should read: Live the life you wish to see and if its TRUTH, the quality people will follow.

  473. @phil

    China is much less capitalistic than the US, which has its own problems.

    Phil, you’ve obviously plagiarised that sentence above from a 1950’s textbook on economics.
    I have news for you – it’s 2023 now. The future has arrived and the worm has turned.

    Among the major economies, China is by far the most capitalistic. It has:

    1) Much lower personal income tax rates than the U.S
    2) Much lower corporate tax rates than the U.S
    3) A Much lower percentage of GDP squandered on Government (ie: the parasitic public sector).
    4) Much less regulatory impositions than the U.S. Said regulatory maze in the U.S disproportionately hurts small and medium sized businesses so as to protect the monopolies and market share of the oligarchs.
    In China a meritocratic system exists whereby those that provide the best products and services can be successful. Not so in America where government protects its corporate cronies.
    5) Much less of China’s GDP is squandered on the MISSS (Military Industrial Security Surveillance State) – ie: a subsidiary of BIG GOVERNMENT.

    Let’s face it, America’s murderous foreign policy and the endless wars are funded by BIG GOVERNMENT.
    Absent Big Government and the siphoning off of the private sector’s money, government COULD NOT AFFORD a belligerent foreign policy and fund those 900 plus bases in over 130 countries around the world.
    A small government with much restricted and clearly defined powers (as much power as possible should rest with the states as the constitution specifies), is a peaceful government.

    Capitalism is the enemy of Big Government.

    For the 130 years leading up to the creation of the Zio owned Federal Reserve, the U.S was a bastion of Free Market Capitalism – or as close to one as any nation had ever come in all of human history.
    THAT is why America became an economic and industrial colossus.

    America abandoned that template and that’s why it is a socialist shit-hole today.
    China, using just about any metric, is MUCH more capitalistic* than the U.S.

    (*Sure, it’s not perfect. It still has more than a few SOE’s [State Owned Enterprises] that are haemorrhaging red ink and preventing China from growing even faster).

    But said SOE’s are gradually being amalgamated/streamlined/downsized and even closed down altogether, and this will lead to greater efficiency.

    Phil, I think you’re confused because the ruling elite still call themselves the CPC (Communist Party of China).
    To all intent and purposes, they are Communist in NAME ONLY. In actual practice, it’s capitalism all the way as far as China’s future is concerned.

  474. @phil

    China is much less capitalistic than the US, which has its own problems.

    I think Truth Vigilante (comment #479) proved your narrative outdated. Here’s another bit of info. According to IPSOS 2023 report, people in China are the happiest in the World:

    https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2023-03/Ipsos%20Global%20Happiness%202023%20Report.pdf

  475. If Russia is defeated, it will be “China’s turn.”

    {What is at stake here is not just the fate of Ukraine or the future of Taiwan. The issue is the existing world order itself and its current organizing principle – America’s global hegemony. This status, roundly rejected by Moscow and Beijing, is now in question. For a few years now, the US has been calling the present situation a ‘major power competition’ – which in the 20th century was the essence of both world wars. The Russians and Chinese, for their part, have been advocating since the 1990s for a transition from US-led unipolarity to a multipolar world order. This position is gaining support among various countries in Asia, the Middle East, Africa, and Latin America. In effect, the process of systemic change is already underway.

    … The US has clearly understood that time is not on its side and has resolved to act while the balance of power is in its favor. Provoking Moscow into taking military action in Ukraine was designed to weaken and isolate Russia; stoking tensions in the Taiwan area has served the goal of pressuring China and strengthening anti-Beijing alliances in the Asia-Pacific.

    … It is also hoping to beat those rivals one by one – first, eliminate Russia as a major power, and then make China accept American conditions.}

    https://www.rt.com/news/573273-xis-moscow-visit/

  476. joy says:
    @Anonymous

    Chiang Kei Sheikh was taken to captivity by the mutinous army that was not communists or afflicted with CCP .The rebels wanted Chiang Kei Sheikh stop war against CCP and fo us on Japan .

    “ The Xian Incident of December 1936 was an event of monumental importance. It caused the Chinese leader Chiang Kai-shek (Jiang Jieshi) to rethink and, indeed, reverse his priorities that had major long-term consequences. Until then he was committed to exterminate the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) as a prerequisite to building up the necessary national capacity for China to defend itself against Japan, ….

    Chiang decided on war not because he reached an agreement with the Chinese Communists to form a united front whilst a captive in Xian but because in Xian he received a signal from Josef Stalin that the Soviet Union would support him in a war with Japan. Chiang read Stalin right and the Soviet Union became the largest supplier of weapons to China in the first 4 years of China’s 8-year war with Japan. The hitherto unknown or “secret deal” Chiang made in Xian was an implicit one with Stalin, not with the Chinese Communist Party or its man on the spot Zhou Enlai.” Nature

    https://www.nature.com/articles/palcomms20143

    “Even though the attitude of the Soviet Union under Stalin and the CCP leadership were critical to finding a solution to the Xian Incident the mutiny was staged without their prior knowledge (Zhang).6 This was notwithstanding the reality that the two key conspirators (generals Zhang and Yang) had significant parallel dealings with the CCP, and had hoped to secure Soviet military supplies if they could form some kind of a grand alliance including the CCP as a partner in Northwest China. The idea of holding Chiang captive and forcing him to stop the civil war against the Communists and lead them in a War of Resistance against Japan was originally put forward by Yang (Shilue gaoben, 15 December 1936; Dou, 2005). Zhang was at first hesitant.

    What finally prompted Zhang and Yang to seriously consider this extreme measure was Chiang’s decision to take overall personal charge in Xian. This put them on the spot (Yang, 1995: 281). They were presented with a choice of either implementing Chiang’s order to attack the CCP forces, with which they had a secret truce agreement, or be re-deployed to Fujian and Anhui, respectively, and face the consequences later. Zhang and Yang thus explored the option of kidnapping Chiang to force him to abandon his “policy .

    2 https://www.jstor.org/stable/20559242 Chiang Keisters Sheik adopted a consistent policy of appeasement and conciliation to japanese attacks for years because he wanted to destroy first The CCP.

  477. joy says:
    @Anonymous

    “On September 18, 1931, the Japanese invaded the Chinese region of Manchuria. During the military operation, almost 300,000 Chinese troops stood by as the Japanese occupied the towns, cities, and villages of the region. It was later revealed that the Chinese general of Manchuria, Zhang Xueliang had personally issued the stand-down order. As a result, Japanese soldiers proceeded to swiftly occupy and garrison the major cities of Changchun, Antung, and their surrounding areas with minimal difficulty. It was not until November 1931 that General Ma Zhanshan, the governor of Heilongjiang, disobeyed orders and began to lead a resistance movement against the Japanese with his personal army. But by this point, it was too little, too late. The Japanese had occupied much of the region. (Ma would later become a Chinese Communist). Zhang Xueliang’s decision of “non-resistance” was strongly condemned by Chinese public opinion. However, this policy of non-resistance was generally in line with the policy of the ruling Chinese Nationalist Party (Kuomintang), and its leader, Chiang Kai Shek. Chiang had favored the idea of first destroying the rival Chinese Communist Party before dealing with foreign aggressors. Although it is said that Chaing did not personally give the order for the 300,000 Manchurian troops to stand down, the order was a reflection of his party’s indifferent attitude.-

    Pro-Chiang newspapers accused the students of being Communists. On December 17, 1931, Chiang Kai Shek sent soldiers to attack the students. More than 30 students were killed and 100 students were injured. This was the “Pearl Bridge Massacre”

    In 1933, Chiang Kai Shek concluded the Tanggu Agreement with Japan, in which the Nationalist government recognized that the region north of the Great Wall belonged to the Japanese puppet state of Manchukuo.

    [ Chiang fired anti Japanese mayor, police,and government officials. Witheld the donation of 7 million yuan from overseas Chinese to aid the Anti-Japanese struggle, and stopped payment to the soldiers of an army that was attacked by Japan .He asked rest of the aery not to come to the rescue of the resisting army ]
    Only in July 1937, when Japan began a full-scale invasion of China, did Chiang Kai Shek finally commit to making peace with the Communists, and fighting the War of Resistance Against Japan.

    https://captaincool.medium.com/the-chiang-kai-shek-did-not-fight-japan-the-communists-did-b93b1c917c0c

    “Especially after the United States came into the war at the end of 1941, he [ Chiang Kei Sheikh ] frequently refused to go on the offensive against Japan, keeping several hundred thousand of his best troops in reserve to guard against the expansion of Mao’s party in the north. “ https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/09/03/assassinating-chiang-kai-shek-china-taiwan-japan-world-war-2/

    Chiang was a real character .

    Chiang Kei Sheikh openly allied with the Blue Shirt fascist movement and chose right wing corporatist
    New Life Movement . He along with local Naking government imprisoned the journalist and tortured them often at the behest of North East China occupying Japanese army infuriating Chinese citizen and creating doubt about his plan regarding the land seized by Japan. Already his movement was plagued by 1930 purges of the sincere and loyal patriotic members . It was already seeing influx of the self -serving dishonest leaders from the existing but decayed systems and officials from old Peking government .By 1937 some of these anti-japanese journalist have become communists.

  478. joy says:
    @Anonymous

    If you read the FP article,you would notice that reforms were in the realms of stricter immigration, enforcing denials to unworthy welfare claimant,and stricter punishment for recidivism / crimes.

    These are not socialism . This is woke stupid socialism.

    Nordic country has decreased taxes .It is still high compared to other European and American nations.

    “America is a far different country—, more divided politically, more entrepreneurial,more skeptical of government.”
    Heritage Society.
    Thats why they like goat follow the war parties to the cliff, the small businees including banks and community hospitals get gutted or absorbed ,and we have one political opinions about war ,against Russia-China-Iran ,surveilance,control, press freedom and fight over birth control.

    “All along, Denmark maintained a broad-based welfare system financed by heavy taxes on all citizens, including the middle class,

    An essential element of the Nordic model is strong unions.

    The commitment to cooperation is reinforced by government’s generous welfare system, job retraining and relocation assistance. Organized labor matters in Scandinavia: Union density ranges from 50 to 92 percent versus about 10 percent in the United States.”
    Heritage Society

    I doubt Venezuala has this good.

    America uses word socialism like it uses the words- freedom,democracy,justice .
    It doesnt mean those values are useless,irrelevant, corrupting or appeasement or subsidizing crime spree . Thats what Heritage society and FP authors want to portray.

    But that is digression.

    Nordic countries are more socialist than Venejuala would ever be allowed to .

    Venujuala wants free market and comptetion not the kinds Amerucan corporates do in Hondurus,Haiti,or does in Syria or African nations.

  479. @Brian Damage

    The present-day American economy is much more like a Ponzi scheme than an insurance policy.

  480. @phil

    Your take is not only accurate, but contains a critical correction. China’s state-run sector, which by most estimates makes up only around 25% of the economy, is not the source of China’s economic success. By contrast, it is a drag on it. 100% of new jobs are generated by the private sector! We wrote about this in several articles, but most recently here:

    https://austrianchina.substack.com/p/top-10-myths-about-china-part-2

    That said, the general point of Mike Whitney’s article is completely correct. Moreover, his numbers actually drastically understate China’s worldwide economic dominance. If we look at the latest calculations using Ron Unz’s productive GDP formula, we see that China now out-produces the US + the EU + Japan combined:

    https://austrianchina.substack.com/p/chinas-shocking-worldwide-economic

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