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From The Tablet:

The Vanishing

The erasure of Jews from American life
BY JACOB SAVAGE

Jacob Savage is a writer in Los Angeles.

I never heard of Jacob Savage before, but he’s a quite good nonfiction writer (if you like articles full of counting, which I do). That he hasn’t moved up from writing for The Forward and The Tablet to writing for the L.A. Times or the Washington Post because of their pressing need to have writers who can fully cover the Hair-Touching Crisis might have something to do with his perspective.

FEBRUARY 28, 2023

… In academia, Hollywood, Washington, even in New York City—anywhere American Jews once made their mark—our influence is in steep decline.

For many Jews, the first instinct is to look inward: We blame intermarriage, assimilation, the loss of the immigrant work ethic. This is, of course, a cope. Because the most significant cause of the decline isn’t Jews themselves, but that American liberalism, our civic religion, has turned on us. Where Jewish success was once upheld as a sign of America’s strength and progress over its prejudices, Jewish “overrepresentation” is again something to be solved, not celebrated.

Well, I typed “Jewish overrepresentation” into Google, and the first hit is a 2004 article in the Jewish Quarterly Review. The New York Times has never mentioned the phrase. (To be fair, “Jews are overrepresented” has appeared seven times in the history of the NYT.) The general topic of Jewish success disproportionate to their numbers is common in publications for Jewish audiences like The Tablet, but not in sites aimed at a general audience like the New York Times.

By the way, the original article comes with lots of URL links to document its claims.

… ..Another Jewish professor applies to work in the UC system. In his mandatory diversity statement, which he describes as “the most shameful piece of writing I’ve ever done,” his sole aim is to convey the impression that he hopes to be the last Jewish man they ever hire. He still doesn’t get the job.

And why would he? Using YouGov data, Eric Kaufmann finds that just 4% of elite American academics under 30 are Jewish (compared to 21% of boomers). The steep decline of Jewish editors at the Harvard Law Review (down roughly 50% in less than 10 years) could be the subject of its own law review article.

The same pattern holds across America’s elite institutions: a slow-moving downward trend from the 1990s to the mid-2010s—likely due to all sorts of normal sociological factors—and then a purge so sweeping and dramatic you almost wonder who sent out the secret memo.

Black Lives Matter?

Museum boards now diversify by getting Jews to resign. A well-respected Jewish curator at the Guggenheim is purged after she puts on a Basquiat show. At the Art Institute of Chicago, even the nice Jewish lady volunteers are terminated for having the wrong ethnic background….

Comb through the dozens of Jewish names for the 2012 Guggenheim Fellowship (I count 30-40). You’ll have a much harder time finding them 10 years later (14-16). There were 3-4 Jewish Marshall Scholars in 2014. I don’t see any in 2022.

From 2010 through 2019 there were at least three Jews in every MacArthur Fellowship class, sometimes as many as five or six. The Forward would write effusive columns celebrating the year’s Jewish geniuses. Since 2020, just 0-1 Jews a year have been awarded grants. The Forward hasn’t bothered to take note. …

A FIRE/Yougov survey found that self-identified Jews now number just 7% of Ivy League students, compared to 10% during the height of the antisemitic quotas.

In his gripping podcast Gatecrashers, about the history of Jews in the Ivy League, Mark Oppenheimer describes the troubled state of Jewish campus life. Harvard has gone from being 25% Jewish in the 1990s and 2000s to under 10% today. “In theory it could be the case that Jews are the same percentage of whites at Harvard as they always were,” he explains. “But Harvard has not shrunk the number of athletes it admits […] and they’ve kept their geographical diversity. So if you’re a Jewish kid who’s not an athlete and not a legacy and not from Wyoming … then there’s not much room left for you.”

According to the Hillel College Guide, Penn’s Jewish population declined from 26% in 2015 to 17% in 2021; NYU’s dropped from 24% to 13%. Princeton, Columbia, and Cornell have seen smaller but significant declines (Brown and Dartmouth, with different institutional priorities, are by all accounts happy exceptions).

Data from the Yale Chaplain’s Office—which appears to be the only Ivy League university that still tracks religious affiliation—shows a similar trend: The Jewish population went from 19.9% in the 2000s to 16.4% in the 2010s. A couple of years ago, the school’s chaplain told Meir Chaim Posner, the Chabad rabbi at Yale, that around 11% of Yale undergraduates were Jewish. “It’s dropped slightly since then,” Rabbi Posner told me in November.

“The university has decided that DEI is the overarching principle of admissions,” one Hillel director told me. “There’s a general consensus that it’s more difficult for Jewish students to get into top tier schools.” Nor is this difficulty confined to secular Jews—the modern Orthodox population has also crashed. A college counselor at a top Jewish day school reports that as universities have revamped enrollment and gone test-optional, the number of Orthodox students has decreased….

The 1999 Hillel College Guide now reads like a map to a lost civilization. Harvard and Yale have 1,500 Jewish undergrads apiece. There are 5,000 Jewish students and grad students at Columbia, 6,000 at Penn, 14,000 at NYU. It’s hard to imagine that as recently as 2008, articles were being written about the “race” to attract Jewish students.

What was normal less than two decades ago sounds like a siren call from a distant golden age. To even suggest that a 15%-20% Jewish undergraduate student body might be acceptable in a country in which Jews make up 2.4% of the total population is anathema in today’s liberal society.

To be precise, Jewish representation is not much talked about.

Instead, what’s talked about, over and over, is how there are too many whites.

And guess what? For purposes of diversity, Jews count as white.

… Younger Jews are being excluded from the liberal organizations their parents and grandparents helped create. Identitarian meltdowns roil the progressive world. The Women’s March, the ACLU, and the SPLC all get rid of Jewish leadership. There will be no more “Mighty Iras” in our lifetime. Not even the Jewish president of the Audubon Society is safe.

There are still powerful Jews in Washington—neo-Nazis on Twitter like to post photos of Biden’s cabinet—but the influence is waning. Is it a coincidence that in the U.S. Senate (a handsy group of old men if ever there was one) the only senator forced to resign during the #MeToo panic happened to be Jewish? Or that activists pushed for Dianne Feinstein’s resignation for the explicit reason that she be replaced by someone who isn’t Jewish?

Of the 114 federal judges appointed by Joe Biden (as of this writing), just 8-9 appear to be Jewish—in a field that’s historically been at least 20% Jewish. Liberals worship Ruth Bader Ginsburg as a magical Jewish Teletubby, but they wouldn’t dare nominate another “white woman” to the highest court anytime soon. We are back to the single Jewish seat on the court.

Apparently Jews have so much power and influence that the highest-ranking Jewish senator in history finds it too politically difficult to hire a 22-year-old version of himself. There were at least 15 Jews on Chuck Schumer’s staff of 64 in 2014. After facing pressure for not being diverse enough, and despite an enlarged staff of 89, he can no longer make a minyan. …

Speaking of LA, a decade ago there were 22 Jews on The Hollywood Reporter’s annual list of the Top 50 Showrunners. In 2022, that’s down to 13. Other than the half-Jewish (and already famous) Maggie Gyllenhaal, you’d have to go back six years to find a single Jew on Variety’s annual list of 10 Directors to Watch. …

There will certainly never be another Larry King or Andy Borowitz, Jews of such astounding mediocrity you wonder what was in the water. …

The new DEI regime treats any disparity between groups as evidence of unfair advantage—and yet we’re supposed to think it’s a coincidence that Jewish representation plummets at the exact moment America frantically pushes to racially rebalance all high-status industries.

Because what is framed as a backlash against America’s “white” centers of power is in many cases a clever sleight of hand. Jews are being disproportionately purged from liberal institutions because Jews disproportionately exist within those institutions.

When activists and journalists and executives talk about how Broadway or NPR or publishing is “too white,” what they really mean is “too Jewish.” When The New York Times says it wants to make its internal demographics look more like New York City’s (excepting the Hasidim, of course), what this means is “fewer Jews.” Twenty years ago, if Pat Robertson spoke along these lines—making the same complaints about the same people and industries and institutions—there would have been a rush to condemn it as antisemitic. Today it passes for social justice. …

From civil rights to Vietnam to the spectacular bounty of their cultural and political achievements, liberal Jewish boomers always managed to be on the right side of history. It is a supreme irony that they’ve helped empower a movement that now places their children and grandchildren on the wrong side.

This may have something to do with why the Biden Administration is back to pushing to create a new Middle Eastern & North African racial category that would be distinct from whites on official headcounts. Presumably, Israeli and Mizrahi Jews would be eligible. And since race is largely (but not wholly) a matter of self-identification in American practice, some Ashkenazis might too, which would enable them to point out that firing them wouldn’t improve DIE numbers.

Alternatively, influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up the society where we most thrived?”

 
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  1. • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Dream

    School in Sweden:
    https://barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/unnamed-2.jpg

    School in Russia:
    https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/pupils-school-desk-lesson-school-russia-moscow-first-high-school-first-class-b-september-schoolchildren-sit-77064862.jpg

    Sweden is joining NATO pretty soon. Because the greatest threat to Sweden is a white Christian people who excel at mathematics, build rockets and send men into space, compose classical music, write great literature,…

    Oh, yeah, that’s right, Putler and the Russkies doesn’t allow gay marriage, gay adoption, or child transgenderism so we need NATO to liberate them! 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️

    Replies: @Jack D, @AnotherDad, @Prester John, @Simon in London, @Shitposter_in Chief

    , @Richard B
    @Dream

    "For many Jews, the first instinct is to look inward:

    We blame intermarriage, assimilation, the loss of the immigrant work ethic. This is, of course, a cope. Because the most significant cause of the decline isn’t Jews themselves, but that American liberalism, our civic religion, has turned on us."

    So much for looking inward.

    , @anonymouseperson
    @Dream

    Sweden was the perfect country and they had to FU** it up with nonwhites.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Corvinus

    , @ATBOTL
    @Dream

    White on white crime, according to some.

  2. our influence is in steep decline

    Anyone who lives in Northern New Jersey would be happy to refute this. Does Dave Pinsen still post here?

    • Replies: @Post-Postmodernist
    @ScarletNumber



    our influence is in steep decline
     
    Anyone who lives in Northern New Jersey would be happy to refute this.
     
    Very different Jews. To the secular Tablet, Orthodox Jews of the type you were presumably alluding-to are barely considered "our".

    It might be noted, additionally, concerning the latter, that as formidable a political influence as they may yield, it is at the local level, within the enclaves where they are concentrated. The concerns and challenges involved, however vexing they may be in their own right, are wildly and fundamentally different than those that involve secular Jewish as well as Zionist influence*.

    (*Overlapping yet distinct categories)

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @ginger bread man

    , @Twinkie
    @ScarletNumber


    New Jersey
     
    New Jersey, did someone say New Jersey?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/03/01/student-school-hijab-maplewood-new-jersey/

    She pushed back her student’s hijab. Was it a mistake or an act of hate?
    Evidence of antisemitism competed against allegations of Islamophobia as an online debate divided this suburban community along racial and religious lines.
     
    Almost a comical article. A Jewish teacher at a public school tried to pull back what she thought was a hoodie of a Muslim girl. The girl claimed her Hijab was forcibly removed, the father of the girl launched anti-Jewish invectives and sued the district (and got several hundreds of thousands of dollars), the teacher was put on leave and her life destroyed, the mother privately told the teacher that the girl overreacted and that she was actually the girl's favorite teacher, a female Muslim Olympic fencer who was a friend of the teacher (and whom the teacher had cited as a shining example of womanhood) turned on her and launched a social media mob to fire her, etc.

    What. A. Train. Wreck.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Prester John, @Anon

    , @Shamu
    @ScarletNumber

    I think the key is 'under 30.' And indeed, Jews have been so busy in so many area like academia and journalism since at least the 1960s making certain their grievances against, and enviousness of, Whitey allowed them to fully take over that they failed to see that eventually every type of the Revolution would eat its own. So it makes sense now, when the last remaining Caucasians with massive say are Jews, that Jews would getting replaced with the Numinous Negroes, brown Asians, and trannies.

    Steve's concluding question sentence screams that even at this late date he cannot fathom how and why Jews per capita always promote the Revolution and always benefit greatly from it at first. And always are shocked when it turns on them.

    All political issues are at their basis theological and religious, which guides and shapes culture. The main weight of Jews always leads Revolution against anything having to do with Christendom, including that part of it that made Whitey a race to be HATED and slammed into the NO Future position that Johnny Rotten recognized as marking the entire white British Empire and Anglosphere (and West ruled over by Anglo values) working class.

  3. I guess we are supposed to cry?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @OilcanFloyd


    I guess we are supposed to cry?
     
    I guess so.

    https://youtu.be/_g4dpD1Gnxg?t=60
  4. Tim says:

    This is a great find, Steve. I do like this line from the article:

    “There will certainly never be another Larry King or Andy Borowitz, Jews of such astounding mediocrity you wonder what was in the water.”

    That’s so telling. Jews, within their own, know and state the obvious, but you won’t see it in the NYT.

    But I think you are right, this isn’t a warning against DIE, it’s a flight from white. They are working themselves up to separate themselves from the goyim. Now that being white sucks, they want the benefits of DIE and so are trying to extract themselves from the goy, and thereby receive all the benefits of POC. I bet they win too.

  5. “Suffer, Baby! Suffer!”

  6. • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Joe Stalin

    Our former commenter Snorlax was on to this five years ago:


    https://www.unz.com/isteve/thanks-for-explaining-this-nyt/#comment-2337006

    , @Brás Cubas
    @Joe Stalin

    What I got from the video is that China's "interference" consists in pushing candidates who will not bother China over its internal affairs. Conversely, this journalist's ideal of a "patriotic" and "independent" candidate is a Chinese ethnic who seems primarily concerned with China's internal affairs.
    As everyone knows, Canada has a huge ethnic Chinese community, large enough that they easily elect a certain number of political representatives which are also ethnic Chinese. These are people who dislike the Chinese regime and use their political power to make Canada as anti-China as possible. This is of course all legal in a multiethnic country such as Canada and not considered as foreign interference. Furthermore, it seems to have the internal support of non-ethnic "conservatives", but the motivation for their interest in this kind of issue is not at all clear apart from the obvious fact that they want to beat their liberal rivals in the elections.
    Democracy at work.

  7. Anonymous[223] • Disclaimer says:

    Secular Ashkenazi Jewish Americans today for the most part tend to be from well off family backgrounds. In my experience, the more ambitious types go into high finance, venture capital, or the business development side of big tech. Others are able to pursue less remunerative media and entertainment careers through support from their family. Some have trust funds and dabble in non-traditional careers or lead hipster lifestyles. They no longer have to pursue more mundane careers like their poorer antecedents did out of poverty or social restrictions.

    Jordan Belfort dropped out of dental school 40 years ago when he realized he wouldn’t get very rich from dentistry:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Belfort#Early_life

    Belfort planned on using the money earned with Loewenstern to pay for dental school,[14] and he enrolled at the University of Maryland School of Dentistry. He left after the dean of the school said to him on his first day: “The golden age of dentistry is over. If you’re here simply because you’re looking to make a lot of money, you’re in the wrong place.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    My vague impression is that dentists underwent a downturn a generation ago due to fluoride in water and toothpaste, but then they made a comeback via more cosmetic / comfort stuff like mouthguards.

    Replies: @LP5

    , @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    The most intelligent Jews go into finance (and the best then pursue second careers), the intelligence of Jewish academia is a crapshoot (because so much of academia is fake), and the dumbest Jews become "journalists."

    , @Return of Shawn
    @Anonymous

    In dentistry type fields, to make the big bucks you have to be a doctor of dental surgery or an orthodontist. But you still have to like working with spit.

  8. Tablet:

    … liberal Jewish boomers always managed to be on the right side of history. It is a supreme irony that they’ve helped empower a movement that now places their children and grandchildren on the wrong side.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/jewish-chronicle-day-of-hate-doesnt-quite-go-through-the-formality-of-coming-into-existence/#comment-5837028 (#175)

    Pixo/Lot cope:

    Jews are a highly beloved ethnicity in the USA. Similar to the Irish, Swedish, and Japanese.

    JIE straight dope:

    Jewish status is now on the downswing, big time, from a late-20th century peak …

  9. anonymous[213] • Disclaimer says:

    Alternatively, influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up a place where we thrived?”

    Jonathan Greenblatt has said he fears the emergence of a Tucker Carlson like leader who rallies whites along the basis of white identity in a nationwide January 6 style rebellion. The flashpoint could be the next presidential election or in 2028. Jonathan Greenblatt is on to something since Carlson is implicitly anti-Semitic in his show monologues and even stealing vocabulary invented by Steve.

    “We’ve wondered. Anyone who’s paying attention has had to have wondered that. Well, this week, Congressman Jamie Raskin of Maryland, of Bethesda, answered that question. Russia is an orthodox Christian country with traditional social values and for that reason, it must be destroyed, no matter what the cost to us. This is not a conventional war. This is a jihad. Jamie Raskin said that out loud, but many in Washington agree with him in both parties. They would like to see World War Trans immediately….”

    Because of their safety concerns, Jews will not turn back on the plan to get America down to 40% white by 2050 with whites at most being a simple majority in the most important institutions. Open borders with Mexico and more vigorous affirmative action in Harvard faculty hiring will be here to stay.

    • Replies: @Post-Postmodernist
    @anonymous


    Because of their safety concerns, Jews will not turn back on the plan to get America down to 40% white by 2050
     
    Such a "plan",
    __was never signed on to or even merely known to either myself or any of the Jews I associate with
    __would not align but rather conflict with any of our safety concerns

    "Jews" is a very broad label that encompasses many different subsets with very different values, goals and priorities. No one can legitimately speak for all Jews.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @houston 1992, @James N. Kennett, @anonymouseperson, @anonymous, @Mike Tre

    , @James N. Kennett
    @anonymous


    “We’ve wondered. Anyone who’s paying attention has had to have wondered that. Well, this week, Congressman Jamie Raskin of Maryland, of Bethesda, answered that question. Russia is an orthodox Christian country with traditional social values and for that reason, it must be destroyed, no matter what the cost to us. This is not a conventional war. This is a jihad. Jamie Raskin said that out loud, but many in Washington agree with him in both parties. They would like to see World War Trans immediately….”
     
    There is no source for the Raskin quote. It is possible that he said it privately and Carlson's writers found out. More likely they paraphrased it from Raskin's actual statements with a large dose of poetic license.

    Raskin's published views are "interesting":

    Moscow right now is a hub of corrupt tyranny, censorship, authoritarian repression, police violence, propaganda, government lies and disinformation, and planning for war crimes. It is a world center of antifeminist, antigay, anti-trans hatred, as well as the homeland of replacement theory for export. In supporting Ukraine, we are opposing these fascist views, and supporting the urgent principles of democratic pluralism. Ukraine is not perfect, of course, but its society is organized on the radically different principles of democracy and freedom, which is why Russia's oligarchical leaders seek to destroy it forever.
     
    https://raskin.house.gov/press-releases?ID=C6AAEAAD-548C-444A-85AB-A77AB7FFAAE6

    Not only is the notion that we are fighting the Russians on behalf of feminists, gays and transsexuals not right; as physicists say, it is not even wrong. It is a lie so contemptible that it places Raskin in a lower circle of hell than even Tucker Carlson's scriptwriters.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Nicholas Stix

  10. Who gives a shit? Jews created this golem—worshipping blacks and opening the borders is their thing—let it eat ‘em alive with the rest of the three-digit races.

  11. Anonymous[371] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dream
    https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1631450082229796865?t=Y5xA37iJDotxkWC4mEH8Tg&s=19

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Richard B, @anonymouseperson, @ATBOTL

    School in Sweden:

    School in Russia:

    Sweden is joining NATO pretty soon. Because the greatest threat to Sweden is a white Christian people who excel at mathematics, build rockets and send men into space, compose classical music, write great literature,…

    Oh, yeah, that’s right, Putler and the Russkies doesn’t allow gay marriage, gay adoption, or child transgenderism so we need NATO to liberate them! 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️

    • Agree: Bernie
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    Russia is not the Whitopia of your dreams.


    Now, up to 20 percent of the population [of Moscow] may be Muslim,” he said. Demographers estimate Russia’s Islamic community may account for a majority of the nation’s population by mid-century.
     
    https://www.baptistpress.com/resource-library/news/muslim-population-in-russia-grows-quickly/

    Moscow at Friday prayers:

    https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.18172-8/13528508_10154354489789060_8835416173784078921_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=3z946ZIhggEAX9QqS7x&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfDnY-kD7gNL4a6nBUIPwLxo-Jt8CNs3O8mhjRZzvfgQ8g&oe=6429734B

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Steve Sailer, @stari_momak

    , @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous


    Oh, yeah, that’s right, Putler and the Russkies doesn’t allow gay marriage, gay adoption, or child transgenderism so we need NATO to liberate them! 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️
     
    That's a--one particular--school in Sweden, and a--one particular--school in Russia.

    Sweden is indeed a good white disaster. A quarter of the people now aren't Swedish or even part Swedish. Though a good chunk of those are "close enough", it has definitely destroyed itself by importing vibrants. Sweden probably needs some sort of nationalist coup/separation now to save it, or even a piece of it.

    But actual Russia is less and less Russian as well. It is more and more full of Muslims--including lots of illegals in from the 'stans--who actually breed, while white/Russian fertility remains in the dumper. By the end of the century, it could well be a big sprawling--majority muslim!--pig pile.

    Putin could have--should have--focused on making sure Russian schools that looked like that, kept looking that. But your imagined whitopia does not interest Putin. He's a guy who fought bloody war--leveled Grozny--to keep the Chechens in Russia. How f'ing stupid is that? And now Putin--not NATO--launched a sleazy 1914 style imperialist war, that is slaughtering thousands of Russia's and Ukraine's young men. Brilliant!

    You guys can keep blathering on idiotically with your Putin fantasies, but he is what he is--a Czar wannabe, a 19th century style Russian imperialist, completely consumed with being a "big man" expanding the scope and power of the Russian Empire and utterly unconcerned with making Russia a great nation for Russians to live in.

    Calling a pig "George Washington" doesn't actually change the character of the pig. It's still goes "oink".

    Replies: @Prester John, @Johann Ricke, @CalCooledge, @stari_momak

    , @Prester John
    @Anonymous

    Not too many future Vikings among THAT crowd!

    , @Simon in London
    @Anonymous

    "the greatest threat to Sweden is a white Christian people who excel at mathematics, build rockets and send men into space, compose classical music, write great literature"

    These are indeed the countries with enough Asabiya to threaten their neighbours.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Shitposter_in Chief
    @Anonymous

    Sweden and Finland are joining NATO because of what Russia is doing. Putin is NOT coming to save the white race.

    NATO is not going to invade Russia, until 18 months ago NATO was almost irrelevant. Nobody has done anything more to strengthen NATO in the past half century than Putin

  12. Awwwww………that’s a shame.

  13. @OilcanFloyd
    I guess we are supposed to cry?

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    I guess we are supposed to cry?

    I guess so.

    • LOL: Prester John
  14. @Anonymous
    Secular Ashkenazi Jewish Americans today for the most part tend to be from well off family backgrounds. In my experience, the more ambitious types go into high finance, venture capital, or the business development side of big tech. Others are able to pursue less remunerative media and entertainment careers through support from their family. Some have trust funds and dabble in non-traditional careers or lead hipster lifestyles. They no longer have to pursue more mundane careers like their poorer antecedents did out of poverty or social restrictions.

    Jordan Belfort dropped out of dental school 40 years ago when he realized he wouldn't get very rich from dentistry:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Belfort#Early_life

    Belfort planned on using the money earned with Loewenstern to pay for dental school,[14] and he enrolled at the University of Maryland School of Dentistry. He left after the dean of the school said to him on his first day: "The golden age of dentistry is over. If you're here simply because you're looking to make a lot of money, you're in the wrong place.
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @J.Ross, @Return of Shawn

    My vague impression is that dentists underwent a downturn a generation ago due to fluoride in water and toothpaste, but then they made a comeback via more cosmetic / comfort stuff like mouthguards.

    • Replies: @LP5
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve writes:


    My vague impression is that dentists underwent a downturn a generation ago due to fluoride in water and toothpaste, but then they made a comeback via more cosmetic / comfort stuff like mouthguards.
     
    Dentists became mechanics and then underwent some crash courses in personality and marketing, a new chair-side manner. They realized that demographics would extend their careers and pay country club dues. There are all those boomers with amalgam fillings that need, no, demand replacing due to, uh, factors. Combine that with vanity to get veneers and whitening treatments, and with aging to start on root canals and other annuities.

    Now comes a new crop of orthodontist patients streaming across the border. Launch a program to raise taxes and dispense grants to pay for bracero braces or whatever DEI allows. There might yet be mileage along the American Way, or some hyphenated version.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

  15. From civil rights to Vietnam to the spectacular bounty of their cultural and political achievements, liberal Jewish boomers always managed to be on the right side of history. It is a supreme irony that they’ve helped empower a movement that now places their children and grandchildren on the wrong side.

    No Good Deed Goes Unpunished……lol

    • Replies: @Anon
    @George Taylor

    In their case, “No good deed goes unpublished.”

  16. In his gripping podcast Gatecrashers, about the history of Jews in the Ivy League

    Too many p’s.

    What was normal less than two decades ago sounds like a siren call from a distant golden age.

    Try to think of a topic for which that isn’t the case.

  17. @ScarletNumber

    our influence is in steep decline
     
    Anyone who lives in Northern New Jersey would be happy to refute this. Does Dave Pinsen still post here?

    Replies: @Post-Postmodernist, @Twinkie, @Shamu

    our influence is in steep decline

    Anyone who lives in Northern New Jersey would be happy to refute this.

    Very different Jews. To the secular Tablet, Orthodox Jews of the type you were presumably alluding-to are barely considered “our”.

    It might be noted, additionally, concerning the latter, that as formidable a political influence as they may yield, it is at the local level, within the enclaves where they are concentrated. The concerns and challenges involved, however vexing they may be in their own right, are wildly and fundamentally different than those that involve secular Jewish as well as Zionist influence*.

    (*Overlapping yet distinct categories)

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Post-Postmodernist

    Weren't they all pretty much Orthodox once? Presumably there is some diffusion from Orthodox into less stringent, more secular forms of Judaism. Think of the Orthodox as the Farm team - the minor leagues. They're a people who have been around for over 5,000 years. I don't think they're going away.

    , @ginger bread man
    @Post-Postmodernist

    I would disagree for a few reasons with several things shared here.

    1. Out of all the quasi-academic culturally Jewish publications, Tablet has the least animosity toward the Hasidim. Their podcast Unorthodox had an episode called “The one with the Mitzvah Tanks” where the editors shadow Hasidic Jews for a day asking other Jews to put on Tefillin and light candles. They’re also much more right wing on social issues and their orientation toward Israel.

    2. The Jews on the Jersey side of hudson are largely Modern Orthodox, meaning they wear polo shirts and yarmulkes as opposed to the black and white garb of the Hasids in Brooklyn. Ben Shapiro and Jared Kushner fall into this category. They are much more likely to be have a college and advanced degrees, and are very much the types of Jews that Tablet would consider to be “one of them”.

    So although Tablet is not explicitly orthodox, they tend to have a much greater sympathy for the Orthodox (including the black hatters) than the Forward, the JTA, Commentary or any other Jewish ersatz-intellectual publication who report on Hasidim from a comfortable arms length.

  18. If they’re serious about this, Tablet will have an article, “DAVID COLE IS RIGHT”.

  19. @anonymous

    Alternatively, influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up a place where we thrived?”
     
    Jonathan Greenblatt has said he fears the emergence of a Tucker Carlson like leader who rallies whites along the basis of white identity in a nationwide January 6 style rebellion. The flashpoint could be the next presidential election or in 2028. Jonathan Greenblatt is on to something since Carlson is implicitly anti-Semitic in his show monologues and even stealing vocabulary invented by Steve.

    “We’ve wondered. Anyone who’s paying attention has had to have wondered that. Well, this week, Congressman Jamie Raskin of Maryland, of Bethesda, answered that question. Russia is an orthodox Christian country with traditional social values and for that reason, it must be destroyed, no matter what the cost to us. This is not a conventional war. This is a jihad. Jamie Raskin said that out loud, but many in Washington agree with him in both parties. They would like to see World War Trans immediately….”
     
    https://twitter.com/adrianlewis310/status/1587880764749799424

    Because of their safety concerns, Jews will not turn back on the plan to get America down to 40% white by 2050 with whites at most being a simple majority in the most important institutions. Open borders with Mexico and more vigorous affirmative action in Harvard faculty hiring will be here to stay.

    Replies: @Post-Postmodernist, @James N. Kennett

    Because of their safety concerns, Jews will not turn back on the plan to get America down to 40% white by 2050

    Such a “plan”,
    __was never signed on to or even merely known to either myself or any of the Jews I associate with
    __would not align but rather conflict with any of our safety concerns

    “Jews” is a very broad label that encompasses many different subsets with very different values, goals and priorities. No one can legitimately speak for all Jews.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Post-Postmodernist

    This is a tiresone ritual but here we go: everybody understands that, during the Cold War, "Moscow" or "The Russians" did not mean the city of Moscow or the people of Russia. You want us to use a term, give us a term. I like "the gangsters" but that implies a close knit group and we should include all the non-member supporters like journalists.

    , @houston 1992
    @Post-Postmodernist

    Did Ben W not cc you ?

    The Ben Wattenberg quote seems well known. “The non-Europeanization of America is heartening news of an almost transcendental quality.”

    , @James N. Kennett
    @Post-Postmodernist

    It is a pity that the Jewish contingent among the "movers and shakers" did not consult ordinary Jewish Americans about their safety concerns.

    Marc Potok of the SPLC (allegedly) kept a list on his wall of the non-Hispanic white population by decade. It was spotted during an interview in the Netflix film "Alt-Right: Age of Rage". I do not have Netflix so I cannot verify the claim.


    https://twitter.com/Johntitor2121/status/1220601166607847424

    , @anonymouseperson
    @Post-Postmodernist

    Pretty much every single Jewish organization in the world outside of Israel is 100% for open borders, mass immigration and diversity (except to Israel).

    Replies: @Nachum

    , @anonymous
    @Post-Postmodernist

    Whites were going to be 45% of the population by 2050 based on already existing momentum. Since the turbocharged immigration policies of the Biden admin, it looks like 40% is the goal. This has not been clearly stated in a memo given to everyone but based on the millions allowed in through the southern border in two years under Biden it is apparent the process of replacing the white population is going faster than before.

    The ADL the nation's top Jewish organization is doing its part to help by organizing an advertising boycott and trying to get Carlson fired after he pointed out there is a plan of replacement. "Shortly after that segment aired, Greenblatt and the ADL said that Carlson needed to be fired because his comments mirrored a white supremacist tenet called the “great replacement” theory." The ADL wants to make sure other media are afraid to mention the plan. If whites are 40% of the population and a simple majority of the most important instituions then it will not be possible for a future Tucker Carlson like demagogue to succeed. Jewish leaders have a very long term vision to protect the community. They understand even if things are going very well now there is always the possibility of the outbreak of violent anti-Semitism. Every 50 years in America there is a fourth turning turning American society upside down. Without intervention the next 4th turning in the 2070s could see white people turn on Jews in a vicious way.

    , @Mike Tre
    @Post-Postmodernist

    "“Jews” is a very broad label that encompasses many different subsets"

    So is the term "whites", but it doesn't stop the "jews" as hating or labeling them all as rednecks, racists, or nazis.

  20. @Joe Stalin
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCZJo0teyvo

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Brás Cubas

    Our former commenter Snorlax was on to this five years ago:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/thanks-for-explaining-this-nyt/#comment-2337006

  21. Biden’s cabinet.

  22. Because what is framed as a backlash against America’s “white” centers of power is in many cases a clever sleight of hand. Jews are being disproportionately purged from liberal institutions because Jews disproportionately exist within those institutions.

    The real slight of hand here is the author’s. He wants us to think on some level that people are being purged because they are Jewish, but they are not. They are being purged because they are white, to make room for non-whites.

    We know this, and he must know this, but he is implying that Jews are victims simply because they are Jewish. It’s part of the identity, practically by definition.

    And white people, by definition, can’t possibly be victims just because they are white.

    Flight from white will preserve that identity of victimhood. It has probably become a psychological imperative at this point, just to avoid cognitive dissonance.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Buzz Mohawk


    Flight from white will preserve that identity of victimhood. It has probably become a psychological imperative at this point, just to avoid cognitive dissonance.
     
    POC's don't give a damn about no "psychological imperatives". That's your problem whitey.

    "Flight from white" is not going to be possible for Ashkenazi Jews, who are the great majority of American Jews. Maybe a small # of Sephardic and Israeli Jews could get away with this but your average Goldberg is not going to qualify as MENA. You can change your sex but you can't change your race. If you try, you will be outed and deplatformed. Blacks know a POC when they see one and Goldberg ain't no POC. Any Jew who thinks he is getting off this way is fooling himself.

    In Eastern Europe there is a small group called the Karaites who were originally from Turkish lands and who accept the Hebrew bible but not the rest of Rabbinic Judaism. For some reason, the Nazis had nothing against them. So when things got rough for the Jews in Hungary, a certain # of Ashkenazi Jews said, "Hey, Nazis, you've got the wrong man. I'm not Jewish, I'm a Karaite." The Nazis didn't buy it and POCs in America ain't gonna buy it either. As far as POCs are concerned, Jews are the whitest of white people.

    Maybe these kind of Jedi mind tricks work on gullible, easily guilted whites but it's not gonna fly with blacks and other POCs.
  23. @Anonymous
    Secular Ashkenazi Jewish Americans today for the most part tend to be from well off family backgrounds. In my experience, the more ambitious types go into high finance, venture capital, or the business development side of big tech. Others are able to pursue less remunerative media and entertainment careers through support from their family. Some have trust funds and dabble in non-traditional careers or lead hipster lifestyles. They no longer have to pursue more mundane careers like their poorer antecedents did out of poverty or social restrictions.

    Jordan Belfort dropped out of dental school 40 years ago when he realized he wouldn't get very rich from dentistry:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Belfort#Early_life

    Belfort planned on using the money earned with Loewenstern to pay for dental school,[14] and he enrolled at the University of Maryland School of Dentistry. He left after the dean of the school said to him on his first day: "The golden age of dentistry is over. If you're here simply because you're looking to make a lot of money, you're in the wrong place.
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @J.Ross, @Return of Shawn

    The most intelligent Jews go into finance (and the best then pursue second careers), the intelligence of Jewish academia is a crapshoot (because so much of academia is fake), and the dumbest Jews become “journalists.”

  24. @Post-Postmodernist
    @anonymous


    Because of their safety concerns, Jews will not turn back on the plan to get America down to 40% white by 2050
     
    Such a "plan",
    __was never signed on to or even merely known to either myself or any of the Jews I associate with
    __would not align but rather conflict with any of our safety concerns

    "Jews" is a very broad label that encompasses many different subsets with very different values, goals and priorities. No one can legitimately speak for all Jews.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @houston 1992, @James N. Kennett, @anonymouseperson, @anonymous, @Mike Tre

    This is a tiresone ritual but here we go: everybody understands that, during the Cold War, “Moscow” or “The Russians” did not mean the city of Moscow or the people of Russia. You want us to use a term, give us a term. I like “the gangsters” but that implies a close knit group and we should include all the non-member supporters like journalists.

  25. Oh my! Down from ten times overrepresentation for Boomers to “only” two times overrepresentation for twenty-somethings. Talk about the Nazis! Any more of this and we’ll reach “equity.”

  26. Harvard has gone from being 25% Jewish in the 1990s and 2000s to under 10% today…A couple of years ago, [Yale’s] chaplain told Meir Chaim Posner, the Chabad rabbi at Yale, that around 11% of Yale undergraduates were Jewish.

    This would mean that less than 1/3 of the white students at Harvard and Yale are Jewish. They must be underreporting their numbers of Jewish students because they have been the schools most in the crosshairs of Ron’s Meritocracy articles. At Cornell, according to Hillel, more than half the white students are Jewish.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    @Chebyshev


    This would mean that less than 1/3 of the white students at Harvard and Yale are Jewish. They must be underreporting their numbers of Jewish students because they have been the schools most in the crosshairs of Ron’s Meritocracy articles. At Cornell, according to Hillel, more than half the white students are Jewish.
     
    Someone pointed me to this post, which I otherwise would have missed.

    I'd actually written about these issues last year, and I think the Hillel figures are extremely misleading, probably deliberately so.

    Back in 2012, I'd published my original Meritocracy analysis and obviously provoked a great deal of controversy given the total mismatch between Jewish performance and elite Jewish enrollment. Then, in 2016 the controversy resurfaced when I organized a slate of candidates to run for the Harvard Board of Overseers, probably raising concerns that the issue would remain around and eventually grow.

    The following year, the Jewish enrollment figures published by Hillel plummeted across all colleges, especially the most elite ones, thereby greatly reducing the suspicious "mismatch." As far as I can tell, Hillel did this by restricting their definition to students who are religiously Jewish. Given that Jews have traditionally been one of the most secular ethnic groups in America, this obviously eliminates the majority of Jewish students in the ethnic or ancestral sense, representing an blatant example of crypsis.

    As an example of this, Hillel claims that there is not a single "Jewish" student at Caltech, yet Caltech actually has quite a number of Jewish students:

    https://www.hillel.org/college/california-institute-of-technology/

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/hillel.caltech/

    Here's the link to my article and you can decide for yourselves whether my analysis is correct:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/challenging-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/

    If my interpretation is roughly correct, there's an absolutely shocking implication. According to my estimate, white Gentiles may have dropped to only about 10% of the students at Harvard and not much more at the other most elite colleges. By contrast, white Gentiles are roughly 60% of the entire American population and 60-70% of America's highest-performing high school students.

    Replies: @anita patel, @TWS, @Chebyshev, @JimDandy, @Prester John, @Fenster, @Return of Shawn, @That Would Be Telling

    , @Dutch Boy
    @Chebyshev

    My impression has been that Jews were all in on affirmative action because they believed that it would predominately affect white Christians and that their wealth and connections would largely exempt them from any negative effects. In other words, AA is just cultural and economic warfare against their favorite enemies.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Travis
    @Chebyshev

    good point. Also many non-religious Jews may no longer be counted as being Jewish. Maybe the half-Jewish students who may have identified as Jewish in the past no longer do so. In 1990 my college roommate had a Jewish mother and would identify as being Jewish, although he was not religious. Today such people may no longer identify as being Jewish. He had a Jewish girlfriend who would only date Jews, so this may be one reason he identified as Jewish at that time. Today he is married to a gentile.

  27. The Jewish manner of speech, and mode of thinking, became contagious. Non-Jews mirrored these very well. I will call them Jew 2.0. Elite academia found they could admit Jew 2.0 and cut back on Jew 1.0. In a Jew 2.0 admission, you capture the best features of both worlds.

  28. influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up a place where we thrived?”

    And pigs can fly but don’t wait for either.

    The big decade for Tough Jews were the 80s, when they stared Ron Reagan down over the Bitburg wreath-laying after they found out there were SS troops buried there. NEVER FORGET, they said to Ron as they made sure the borders would not only stay porous but wide open till the crack of doom.

    So they screwed America, forgetting that it included them. Worse, Bitburg meant nothing. The SS graves were all young infantrymen who reached draft age, trained, and got killed. All that wheeze and whine for nothing.

    I will not mourn the present bog the Tough Jews marched themselves into.

    • Thanks: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Another Canadian
    @Franz


    The big decade for Tough Jews were the 80s, when they stared Ron Reagan down over the Bitburg wreath-laying after they found out there were SS troops buried there.
     
    "Bonzo goes to Bitburg."
  29. This is a fascinating topic because we’re talking about WHO will be the future ruling class of this country.

    We should perform surname analysis of lists of rising young people (Millennials and Zoomers) in elite fields & institutions. Then we can determine the exact percentages of Jews, White Gentiles, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Subcontinentals, and Middle Easterners.

    For example, what percentage of Ivy League students come from each of the above groups? Emerging Hollywood directors? Newly hired journalists at major broadcasters?

    We need these exact percentages to know who will be running the show in the coming decades.

    • Agree: houston 1992
    • Replies: @arnie
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I don't know about that. I think there's just a good chance that these elite instutitions lose their power. Money equals power. If you have a bunch of medicorites in this institutions, it gives non-elites the opprtunity to usurp the elites. Kind of like what the Jews did to the WASPs

  30. Correction: Due to an editing error, the original version of this article incorrectly stated that Merrick Garland’s father was Protestant. He was Jewish.

    https://forward.com/news/462330/enough-for-a-minyan-a-jewish-whos-who-of-bidens-cabinet-to-be/

    • Replies: @Jon Halpenny
    @Bill B.

    The four most important positions in Biden's cabinet were given to people of the same ethnicity - Treasury, Justice, State, and Homeland Security.

    No diversity there.

  31. TABLET fails to point out that the reason Jews are disappearing from American life is that the Jews are disappearing. Except for the “Blacks” (the religious that dress black), two generations of intermarriage and very low fertility has reduced dramatically the number of Jewish youth in America.

    • Agree: Farenheit
    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @J

    I wouldn't get too worked up about Jewish intermarriage. Most of the kids still identify as Jewish out of such unions. The problem is they just aren't having many kids (except for the Hasids of course.)

    , @International Jew
    @J

    I'm sure that's a big part of the story. The number of 65-year-olds with four Jewish grandparents has got to be double the number of such 20-year-olds, today.

  32. Anonymous[193] • Disclaimer says:

    It really is a case of ‘being hoist on your own petard’ or ‘overplaying your hand’ to quote two hackneyed old saws.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
    @Anonymous

    In other words: This shows how the Law of Karma works.

    I will wait to see how said Law will work in Israel too...

  33. I knew this piece wasn’t going to elicit much sympathy from you (which is fine; this is our problem, not yours). But I think you’ve misread the message. It’s not advising Jews to flee from whiteness. It’s saying we’re inevitably going to be seen as white, and that anti-whiteness is bad (in fact especially bad) for us.

    Tablet is somewhat right of center but if this article disabuses even a few people of their woke illusions, that’ll be a good thing for America.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @International Jew

    Yeah, that was kind of the read I got from it too—they were saying lay offf the woke, guys; is a queer POC woman going to buy that Jonathan Greenblatt is a person of color because MENA? Commentary had a whole special issue on how woke is bad.

    Could be wishful thinking on my part.

    Replies: @Ben Kurtz

  34. Anonymous[193] • Disclaimer says:

    But, Steve, American Jews always have Israel to flee to – where acceptance is *guaranteed* and welcomed, and as you have said many times is a sensible intelligent country run by sensible intelligent people.
    The typical mutt white American has no such bolt hole.

  35. @Bill B.
    Correction: Due to an editing error, the original version of this article incorrectly stated that Merrick Garland’s father was Protestant. He was Jewish.


    https://forward.com/news/462330/enough-for-a-minyan-a-jewish-whos-who-of-bidens-cabinet-to-be/

    Replies: @Jon Halpenny

    The four most important positions in Biden’s cabinet were given to people of the same ethnicity – Treasury, Justice, State, and Homeland Security.

    No diversity there.

  36. Jews are a powerless minority. Anti Semites run America currently. Jonathan Greenblatt is a national treasure.

    • Replies: @tyrone
    @Special military operation


    Jews are a powerless minority. Anti Semites run America currently. Jonathan Greenblatt is a national treasure.
     
    ....Did tiny duck join the army?

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  37. @Post-Postmodernist
    @anonymous


    Because of their safety concerns, Jews will not turn back on the plan to get America down to 40% white by 2050
     
    Such a "plan",
    __was never signed on to or even merely known to either myself or any of the Jews I associate with
    __would not align but rather conflict with any of our safety concerns

    "Jews" is a very broad label that encompasses many different subsets with very different values, goals and priorities. No one can legitimately speak for all Jews.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @houston 1992, @James N. Kennett, @anonymouseperson, @anonymous, @Mike Tre

    Did Ben W not cc you ?

    The Ben Wattenberg quote seems well known. “The non-Europeanization of America is heartening news of an almost transcendental quality.”

  38. @Post-Postmodernist
    @ScarletNumber



    our influence is in steep decline
     
    Anyone who lives in Northern New Jersey would be happy to refute this.
     
    Very different Jews. To the secular Tablet, Orthodox Jews of the type you were presumably alluding-to are barely considered "our".

    It might be noted, additionally, concerning the latter, that as formidable a political influence as they may yield, it is at the local level, within the enclaves where they are concentrated. The concerns and challenges involved, however vexing they may be in their own right, are wildly and fundamentally different than those that involve secular Jewish as well as Zionist influence*.

    (*Overlapping yet distinct categories)

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @ginger bread man

    Weren’t they all pretty much Orthodox once? Presumably there is some diffusion from Orthodox into less stringent, more secular forms of Judaism. Think of the Orthodox as the Farm team – the minor leagues. They’re a people who have been around for over 5,000 years. I don’t think they’re going away.

  39. @ScarletNumber

    our influence is in steep decline
     
    Anyone who lives in Northern New Jersey would be happy to refute this. Does Dave Pinsen still post here?

    Replies: @Post-Postmodernist, @Twinkie, @Shamu

    New Jersey

    New Jersey, did someone say New Jersey?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/03/01/student-school-hijab-maplewood-new-jersey/

    She pushed back her student’s hijab. Was it a mistake or an act of hate?
    Evidence of antisemitism competed against allegations of Islamophobia as an online debate divided this suburban community along racial and religious lines.

    Almost a comical article. A Jewish teacher at a public school tried to pull back what she thought was a hoodie of a Muslim girl. The girl claimed her Hijab was forcibly removed, the father of the girl launched anti-Jewish invectives and sued the district (and got several hundreds of thousands of dollars), the teacher was put on leave and her life destroyed, the mother privately told the teacher that the girl overreacted and that she was actually the girl’s favorite teacher, a female Muslim Olympic fencer who was a friend of the teacher (and whom the teacher had cited as a shining example of womanhood) turned on her and launched a social media mob to fire her, etc.

    What. A. Train. Wreck.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Twinkie

    Is it a train wreck? Was anyone importamt harmed? A peasant was sacrificed to illustrate globohomo values. This is a more important function for peasants than their nominal jobs. As for the money, public school systems exist to lose painful amounts of money.

    , @Prester John
    @Twinkie

    "What. A. Train. Wreck."

    Indeed. Ostensibly though it's what we wanted (c.f. "The House I Live In", Sinatra's WWII anthem, Jefferson's Declaration, the Lazarus poem etc. etc.).

    We reap what we sow--and the results are unfolding. Haphazardly of course.

    , @Anon
    @Twinkie

    Teachers should not be grabbing the clothes of students anyway.

  40. @Twinkie
    @ScarletNumber


    New Jersey
     
    New Jersey, did someone say New Jersey?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/03/01/student-school-hijab-maplewood-new-jersey/

    She pushed back her student’s hijab. Was it a mistake or an act of hate?
    Evidence of antisemitism competed against allegations of Islamophobia as an online debate divided this suburban community along racial and religious lines.
     
    Almost a comical article. A Jewish teacher at a public school tried to pull back what she thought was a hoodie of a Muslim girl. The girl claimed her Hijab was forcibly removed, the father of the girl launched anti-Jewish invectives and sued the district (and got several hundreds of thousands of dollars), the teacher was put on leave and her life destroyed, the mother privately told the teacher that the girl overreacted and that she was actually the girl's favorite teacher, a female Muslim Olympic fencer who was a friend of the teacher (and whom the teacher had cited as a shining example of womanhood) turned on her and launched a social media mob to fire her, etc.

    What. A. Train. Wreck.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Prester John, @Anon

    Is it a train wreck? Was anyone importamt harmed? A peasant was sacrificed to illustrate globohomo values. This is a more important function for peasants than their nominal jobs. As for the money, public school systems exist to lose painful amounts of money.

  41. @Special military operation
    Jews are a powerless minority. Anti Semites run America currently. Jonathan Greenblatt is a national treasure.

    Replies: @tyrone

    Jews are a powerless minority. Anti Semites run America currently. Jonathan Greenblatt is a national treasure.

    ….Did tiny duck join the army?

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @tyrone


    ….Did tiny duck join the army?
     
    'No Recent Commenting History' points to yes.

    Replies: @tyrone

  42. Alternatively, influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up the society where we most thrived?”

    They already have a conversation about it:
    https://jewishjournal.com/cover_story/295918/were-jews-were-not-white-we-define-ourselves/

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Fluesterwitz

    But, so far, intra-Jewish discussions about how actually, we aren't white haven't managed to persuade DIE bean-counters in the slightest. It could happen in the future, such as with the Biden Administration's MENA plan, but so far it hasn't.

    Replies: @Shamu, @PeC, @Corvinus

  43. Alternatively, influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up the society where we most thrived?”

    Keep hoping.

    • LOL: AnotherDad
  44. @tyrone
    @Special military operation


    Jews are a powerless minority. Anti Semites run America currently. Jonathan Greenblatt is a national treasure.
     
    ....Did tiny duck join the army?

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    ….Did tiny duck join the army?

    ‘No Recent Commenting History’ points to yes.

    • Replies: @tyrone
    @MEH 0910


    ‘No Recent Commenting History’ points to yes.
     
    .... Maybe he washed out of basic , although they do that nancy-boys these days.
  45. By the way, the original article comes with lots of URL links to document its claims.

    There are lots of URLs, but they don’t document its claims. Let’s take one at random from the article…

    activists pushed for Dianne Feinstein’s resignation for the explicit reason that she be replaced by someone who isn’t Jewish

    That’s a bold claim, let’s click on the link provided…

    https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2021/03/15/newsom-commits-to-nominating-black-woman-to-fill-feinsteins-seat-should-she-retire-1368354

    And predictably, there’s no mention of Jews at all.

  46. @Fluesterwitz

    Alternatively, influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up the society where we most thrived?”
     
    They already have a conversation about it:
    https://jewishjournal.com/cover_story/295918/were-jews-were-not-white-we-define-ourselves/

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    But, so far, intra-Jewish discussions about how actually, we aren’t white haven’t managed to persuade DIE bean-counters in the slightest. It could happen in the future, such as with the Biden Administration’s MENA plan, but so far it hasn’t.

    • Replies: @Shamu
    @Steve Sailer

    It is a scary path, for they realize that to make that move means they are lumped as being just like Arab Mohammedans, which means they their promotions as a group are tied inextricably to promotion of Arabs and Mohammedans.

    , @PeC
    @Steve Sailer


    Alternatively, influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up the society where we most thrived?”
     
    Alternatively, you could drop the biweekly moronic "stop already Jewz! you clearly are white so join the Wholesome Team and fight with us against this leftist craziness!" theme. It is not only sad and boring, but how could this ever work in a million years?

    But of course, you are probably being disingenous. You surely have already figured out your role as a mere palliative, and this post mission is to cater to the "antisemites" among your readership... without too much controversy. So more of them will "tend" to donate when Panhandling Time comes.

    But let us supose you really are not that bright, and need to be explained by a non American how identity politics work in the USA. Read the following carefully, 10 times at least, and then take your time and let it sink in afterwards:

    Whether Jews are considered white or not by the DIE bean counters - or bread-and-circuses boomer HBD bloggers - is irrelevant, for Jews are already allowed to lobby as an ethnic group and are not currently being demonized by mainstream media, academia and the USG.

    Unlike whites ie European Americans of Christian descent.

    Replies: @bomag

    , @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    ** “The general topic of Jewish success disproportionate to their numbers”

    So what ought to be the “right” number of Jews? Perhaps they’ve earned it, and there is a certain level of jealousy due to that success?

    Furthermore, why not make a comparative analysis for Jews and EACH European ethnic group when it comes to their success in the business, legal, entertainment, and/or athletic fields? Why it is always a comparison between Jews and Gentiles?

    Asking for a (white) friend…

    **Do normies or Generation Z even care? Should they?

    Replies: @EddieSpaghetti

  47. @ScarletNumber

    our influence is in steep decline
     
    Anyone who lives in Northern New Jersey would be happy to refute this. Does Dave Pinsen still post here?

    Replies: @Post-Postmodernist, @Twinkie, @Shamu

    I think the key is ‘under 30.’ And indeed, Jews have been so busy in so many area like academia and journalism since at least the 1960s making certain their grievances against, and enviousness of, Whitey allowed them to fully take over that they failed to see that eventually every type of the Revolution would eat its own. So it makes sense now, when the last remaining Caucasians with massive say are Jews, that Jews would getting replaced with the Numinous Negroes, brown Asians, and trannies.

    Steve’s concluding question sentence screams that even at this late date he cannot fathom how and why Jews per capita always promote the Revolution and always benefit greatly from it at first. And always are shocked when it turns on them.

    All political issues are at their basis theological and religious, which guides and shapes culture. The main weight of Jews always leads Revolution against anything having to do with Christendom, including that part of it that made Whitey a race to be HATED and slammed into the NO Future position that Johnny Rotten recognized as marking the entire white British Empire and Anglosphere (and West ruled over by Anglo values) working class.

  48. @Steve Sailer
    @Fluesterwitz

    But, so far, intra-Jewish discussions about how actually, we aren't white haven't managed to persuade DIE bean-counters in the slightest. It could happen in the future, such as with the Biden Administration's MENA plan, but so far it hasn't.

    Replies: @Shamu, @PeC, @Corvinus

    It is a scary path, for they realize that to make that move means they are lumped as being just like Arab Mohammedans, which means they their promotions as a group are tied inextricably to promotion of Arabs and Mohammedans.

  49. “…and such small portions.”

  50. @George Taylor

    From civil rights to Vietnam to the spectacular bounty of their cultural and political achievements, liberal Jewish boomers always managed to be on the right side of history. It is a supreme irony that they’ve helped empower a movement that now places their children and grandchildren on the wrong side.
     
    No Good Deed Goes Unpunished......lol

    Replies: @Anon

    In their case, “No good deed goes unpublished.”

  51. > Alternatively, influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up the society where we most thrived?”

    We’ll know Steve’s idea is gaining traction when it starts to be reflected in the writing of leading public intellectual Matt Yglesias. Here’s his 2021 Substack essay How To Be An Anti-Racist, where the neo-Bolshevik wordsmith ponders how to more effectively force the non-Left whites he so deplores to take their DIE medicine.

    Relevant to Jesse Savage’s piece in The Tablet, this Yglesias quip stood out to me:

    At the end of the day, the electorate is roughly 70% white, and white people are overrepresented above and beyond that in Congress. And no matter what you do to diminish bias, stereotyping, and other racist attitudes, I think most voters are going to be mostly selfish most of the time.

    As I commented at iSteve at the time (#257),

    At the end of the day, the electorate is 67% Non-Hispanic White Gentile, and Non-Hispanic White Gentiles account for 375 of 535 seats in Congress (375/535 = 70% or 0.04-fold overrepresentation).

    At the end of the day, the electorate is 1.9% Jewish, and Jews account for 37 of 535 seats in Congress (37/535 = 6.9% or 2.63-fold overrepresentation).

    Follow the link to check the sources.

    By carefully defining categories before the counting begins, you can support the favorite conclusions you’ve already reached. Try it sometime!

  52. @J
    TABLET fails to point out that the reason Jews are disappearing from American life is that the Jews are disappearing. Except for the "Blacks" (the religious that dress black), two generations of intermarriage and very low fertility has reduced dramatically the number of Jewish youth in America.

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @International Jew

    I wouldn’t get too worked up about Jewish intermarriage. Most of the kids still identify as Jewish out of such unions. The problem is they just aren’t having many kids (except for the Hasids of course.)

  53. A well-respected Jewish curator at the Guggenheim is purged after she puts on a Basquiat show.

    Ha! There is a God & divine punishment, after all …

  54. So promotion of DIE has turned out to be a sort of massive own goal? So shocking.

    This sort of awaking is what it’s going to take though – Jews are far more racially conscious than the typical Protestant white person so they notice these kind of things, whereas lots of nice white ladies haven’t yet seen their children getting shot down for the first five colleges on their list or getting passed over for job opportunities. It’s coming, though. Anyone with any brains will realize that utilizing their own personal networks – whether social, religious, etc. – to form a sort of parallel society to ensure your friends and family can still earn a decent living is going to be necessary.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Arclight


    lots of nice white ladies haven’t yet seen their children getting shot down for the first five colleges on their list
     
    Wish I had saved it, think it was an Unz.com probably iSteve comment that mentioned someone who's smart daughter failed to get into every school in her list including the "safe" ones. Was attending a community college and was very depressed.

    Went on to mention negroes who'd gotten Cs were getting into Berkeley, so maybe this was a California state thing, but between that and what I've heard about changes in admissions policies we could be seeing the destruction of the only state school that routinely competed with the best of the private R1 universities.

    In computer science for a long time there's been only four top schools in the world, it, Stanford which is also messing with its admissions as I recall reading recently, CMU which has a math department derived CS department that last I checked does its own admissions, and MIT. In the 1980s MIT had a two year flub in admissions policy, new professional admissions director actually followed the faculty's Official policies, and ... it wasn't pretty.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Arclight

  55. @Franz

    influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up a place where we thrived?”
     
    And pigs can fly but don't wait for either.

    The big decade for Tough Jews were the 80s, when they stared Ron Reagan down over the Bitburg wreath-laying after they found out there were SS troops buried there. NEVER FORGET, they said to Ron as they made sure the borders would not only stay porous but wide open till the crack of doom.

    So they screwed America, forgetting that it included them. Worse, Bitburg meant nothing. The SS graves were all young infantrymen who reached draft age, trained, and got killed. All that wheeze and whine for nothing.

    I will not mourn the present bog the Tough Jews marched themselves into.

    Replies: @Another Canadian

    The big decade for Tough Jews were the 80s, when they stared Ron Reagan down over the Bitburg wreath-laying after they found out there were SS troops buried there.

    “Bonzo goes to Bitburg.”

    • Agree: Franz
  56. No amount of critical theory will convince African Americans that Jews are fellow people of color.
    They are even weak on the concept of Chinese not being White.

  57. @Anonymous
    It really is a case of 'being hoist on your own petard' or 'overplaying your hand' to quote two hackneyed old saws.

    Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert

    In other words: This shows how the Law of Karma works.

    I will wait to see how said Law will work in Israel too…

  58. @International Jew
    I knew this piece wasn't going to elicit much sympathy from you (which is fine; this is our problem, not yours). But I think you've misread the message. It's not advising Jews to flee from whiteness. It's saying we're inevitably going to be seen as white, and that anti-whiteness is bad (in fact especially bad) for us.

    Tablet is somewhat right of center but if this article disabuses even a few people of their woke illusions, that'll be a good thing for America.

    Replies: @SFG

    Yeah, that was kind of the read I got from it too—they were saying lay offf the woke, guys; is a queer POC woman going to buy that Jonathan Greenblatt is a person of color because MENA? Commentary had a whole special issue on how woke is bad.

    Could be wishful thinking on my part.

    • Replies: @Ben Kurtz
    @SFG

    Tablet started off as center-left, but Woke nuttiness and their instinctive civil-liberties aversion to Covid-mania has turned them into Literally Hitler over the past 3-5 years.

    And yes, I also came away with the impression that Jews know they will count as non-white only when it hurts them ("No fancy gentile country club membership for you!") and count as white only when it hurts them ("No fancy tenure track professorship for you! We need more Diversity!").

    Totally on-brand for Tablet to be advocating for a return to '90s-style moderate leftism which today is to the right of the "Far Right."

  59. Jews stand to lose more status in Brave New America than white Christians, but only because they had more to lose in the first place. Also because they had such enormous cultural influence over white Christians, whose loss of influence is therefore the Jews’ loss, too.

    I think in the long run the current widespread vilification of white men is not going to be all that bad for us. Being hated, despised, abused, ripped off and dispossessed has an edifying effect that we Americans have needed for a long time.

    Sure, it’s unpleasant, but there’s light at the end of this tunnel. The glorious Chinese Ming dynasty followed the 70-odd years of Mongol domination wherein the Han were crapped on by everyone else in China.

  60. @Chebyshev

    Harvard has gone from being 25% Jewish in the 1990s and 2000s to under 10% today...A couple of years ago, [Yale’s] chaplain told Meir Chaim Posner, the Chabad rabbi at Yale, that around 11% of Yale undergraduates were Jewish.
     
    This would mean that less than 1/3 of the white students at Harvard and Yale are Jewish. They must be underreporting their numbers of Jewish students because they have been the schools most in the crosshairs of Ron's Meritocracy articles. At Cornell, according to Hillel, more than half the white students are Jewish.

    Replies: @Ron Unz, @Dutch Boy, @Travis

    This would mean that less than 1/3 of the white students at Harvard and Yale are Jewish. They must be underreporting their numbers of Jewish students because they have been the schools most in the crosshairs of Ron’s Meritocracy articles. At Cornell, according to Hillel, more than half the white students are Jewish.

    Someone pointed me to this post, which I otherwise would have missed.

    I’d actually written about these issues last year, and I think the Hillel figures are extremely misleading, probably deliberately so.

    Back in 2012, I’d published my original Meritocracy analysis and obviously provoked a great deal of controversy given the total mismatch between Jewish performance and elite Jewish enrollment. Then, in 2016 the controversy resurfaced when I organized a slate of candidates to run for the Harvard Board of Overseers, probably raising concerns that the issue would remain around and eventually grow.

    The following year, the Jewish enrollment figures published by Hillel plummeted across all colleges, especially the most elite ones, thereby greatly reducing the suspicious “mismatch.” As far as I can tell, Hillel did this by restricting their definition to students who are religiously Jewish. Given that Jews have traditionally been one of the most secular ethnic groups in America, this obviously eliminates the majority of Jewish students in the ethnic or ancestral sense, representing an blatant example of crypsis.

    As an example of this, Hillel claims that there is not a single “Jewish” student at Caltech, yet Caltech actually has quite a number of Jewish students:

    https://www.hillel.org/college/california-institute-of-technology/

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/hillel.caltech/

    Here’s the link to my article and you can decide for yourselves whether my analysis is correct:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/challenging-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/

    If my interpretation is roughly correct, there’s an absolutely shocking implication. According to my estimate, white Gentiles may have dropped to only about 10% of the students at Harvard and not much more at the other most elite colleges. By contrast, white Gentiles are roughly 60% of the entire American population and 60-70% of America’s highest-performing high school students.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @anita patel
    @Ron Unz

    Another place to look would be the Westinghouse Science Talent Search awardees in the late '50s and early '60s. Students with typically Jewish names (and often from the Greater New York area) are greatly over represented. Yet in this years Regeneron Science Talent Search (successor to the WTS) the overwhelming number of the names are South Asian and Northeast Asian (almost always Chinese) with only a smattering of typically Jewish names and almost no Japanese names. Perhaps the explanation is that Jews, like Japanese, have been so completely assimilated into American society that they have become just as fat and lazy as the laggard Gentiles. Hows that Ron you Westinghouse Science Talent Search winner?

    Replies: @Ron Unz

    , @TWS
    @Ron Unz

    Don't worry, I'm sure your efforts will eventually remove that problem. Pretty soon whites will be as ubiquitous in culture and elusive in reality as Indians. I wonder if they will get reservations or if they'll just be worked to death.

    Why so much worries about the Jews? There's just as many Indians yet no one is worried about their numbers not breaking double digits at the Ivy league.

    , @Chebyshev
    @Ron Unz

    Thanks - your articles have been very educative.


    The following year, the Jewish enrollment figures published by Hillel plummeted across all colleges, especially the most elite ones, thereby greatly reducing the suspicious “mismatch.” As far as I can tell, Hillel did this by restricting their definition to students who are religiously Jewish.
     
    But do you think Hillel is doing this for the lower profile Ivies? I assume the 21% Jewish figure for Cornell doesn't only include religious Jews, nor does the 24% figure for Brown. I assume those schools can be more honest about their Jewish numbers because they aren't in the spotlight quite as much as HYP.

    https://www.hillel.org/college/cornell-university/

    Replies: @Ron Unz

    , @JimDandy
    @Ron Unz

    And how much of that 10% is made up of legacies, coming from a tiny percentage of elites? I'd guess most of them, meaning that Harvard's doors are basically closed to regular white America.

    , @Prester John
    @Ron Unz

    "Hillel did this by restricting their definition to students who are religiously Jewish."

    It would be interesting to know roughly what percentage of the "Jewish" population in this country practice Judaism as a religious act, rather than ID themselves as "cultural Jews." Merely commemorating The Exodus during Passover doesn't count. I mean those who actually attend services and adhere to their traditions. The sense I have is that the number is pretty low, but I could be wrong.

    , @Fenster
    @Ron Unz

    The very fact that colleges are loath to track the number and that we must rely on Hillel estimates says something in itself. Did Hillel pad upwards in the past for the Jewish press and parents? Is it now underestimating once the issue is more public? Dunno but the JPost relied on Hillel in 2015 to estimate over 25% Jews in elite undergraduate enrollments. We are now to believe that that figure is 7%, and that the ADL was sleeping at the switch?

    I expect Jewish enrollment has gone down in part due to the achievement drop-off you have written about and in part because Jews have been caught up in the anti-white machinery. Asians go up; blacks and hispanics cannot go down. Something has to give and there has been no room to cut gentile whites further after legacies and athletic scholarships. But 7%? No way.

    The data which the author uses to make his compelling new story comes from the FIRE free speech survey. That was a free speech analysis not one of religion. Religion entered in only in terms of a simple self-description by respondents. That is a thin reed on which to rest a firm conclusion about that level of decline. FIRE even mentions the problem with self-identification. Plus, a full 38% of respondents listed no religious affiliation. I expect some Jews checked that box.

    , @Return of Shawn
    @Ron Unz

    Shouldn't the efficient market hypothesis apply here or are employers that dumb? Once the hiring quota has been met for Blacks and Hispanics, smart companies should value black Harvard grads about as much as they'd value a White college grad from a directional university, less they want to leave money on the table (excluding taking into account a desire to replace existing Black employees with Harvard educated ones).

    , @That Would Be Telling
    @Ron Unz


    As an example of this, Hillel claims that there is not a single “Jewish” student at Caltech, yet Caltech actually has quite a number of Jewish students:
     
    Well that's very interesting. Small school, small undergraduate body at ~250 per class, but, still, we're expected to believe none attend the premier science undergraduate problem in the nation if not world?

    I wonder how much MIT Hillel is sandbagging; larger school, ~1,100 per class, they report enough so white gentile males have what I now realize is a ceiling of 10% of the student body.
  61. @J
    TABLET fails to point out that the reason Jews are disappearing from American life is that the Jews are disappearing. Except for the "Blacks" (the religious that dress black), two generations of intermarriage and very low fertility has reduced dramatically the number of Jewish youth in America.

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @International Jew

    I’m sure that’s a big part of the story. The number of 65-year-olds with four Jewish grandparents has got to be double the number of such 20-year-olds, today.

  62. … In academia, Hollywood, Washington, even in New York City—anywhere American Jews once made their mark—our influence is in steep decline.

    LOL.

    Your previous generations did their long march through the institutions and laid waste to America–the actual nation–and through it destroyed, perhaps–jury’s still out–Western Civilization.

    When that’s your bar, of course, the next generation is going to have a hard time measuring up. But is that “influence in decline” or “influence triumphant”?

    Honestly, now it’s just scut work–shooting the stragglers. Even blacks and mean girls can do that.

    • Agree: mark green
  63. Alternatively, influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up the society where we most thrived?”

    For all their verbal IQ and supposed “guilt complex” stuff, Jews don’t seem to get around to asking themselves those sorts of questions.

    In fact, if one raises the rather obvious point that Jews have studiously worked to blow up the society where they most strived you are an …. wait for it … an “anti-Semite”.

    But if any Jews need help answering that “why?” question, I think I can wrack my brain and come up with an answer.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @AnotherDad

    "influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up the society where we most thrived?”

    Helping?

    [OPENS ENVELOPE]

    And the Oscar for destroying America goes to....

    , @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad

    A few years back, one 'Steven Steinlight' did query the wisdom of Jews promoting mass third world immigration into the West.

    , @Mike Tre
    @AnotherDad

    It's pretty obvious, and especially illustrated by Steve's own jewish commenters, that Jews as whole have a massive blind spot when it comes to self-awareness.

    Cancer doesn't know that by its own nature it will eventually kill itself.

  64. the Biden Administration is back to pushing to create a new Middle Eastern & North African racial category that would be distinct from whites on official headcounts. Presumably, Israeli and Mizrahi Jews would be eligible.

    I don’t think Arab Americans will put up with Jews taking most of their slots in this new category

  65. Après le déluge, the dike bombers have got Israel?

    Where do we gentiles go?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    https://geology.com/world/world-map.gif

    This is a ridiculous take. Have you ever seen a map of the world? You can barely even find Israel. It's a tiny dot on the map. You need a magnifying glass to see it. It's so small that they can't write "Israel" on top of Israel - they have to write it on top of Egypt. Jews have one little tiny place to call their own, but apparently this is one too many for some.

    Go to Russia, man. There's your whitopia according to Unzites at least. That's 1/2 the planet right there (at least on the Mercator projection).

    Replies: @San Fernando Curt, @Franz

  66. First of all, I expect Mr. Savage is a rising master of fiction, if not mendacity. I note that our host has already discovered some goal-post shifting on the part of Hillel by means of changing the definition of Jewish by limiting the term only to those who are religious – quelle surprise! – the underwater part of Iceberg Kosher now presumably redefined as the hated white devil (thus proving the need for more DIE).

    Somewhere over in Zelenskystan, amongst mountains of rotting corpses of dead goyim, a miniature stetl violinist is no doubt playing a sad scratchy violin for all those ‘nice’ professors and docents who’ve lost their jobs to the Church of Woke inquisitors. Perhaps those of the tribe who’ve been canned can learn to code, or maybe offer a prayer to Pope Noseferatu of the ADL. Perhaps even a Broadway show lies in Mr. Savage’s future. I’m having a very hard time trying not to dry a salty tear….

  67. @Ron Unz
    @Chebyshev


    This would mean that less than 1/3 of the white students at Harvard and Yale are Jewish. They must be underreporting their numbers of Jewish students because they have been the schools most in the crosshairs of Ron’s Meritocracy articles. At Cornell, according to Hillel, more than half the white students are Jewish.
     
    Someone pointed me to this post, which I otherwise would have missed.

    I'd actually written about these issues last year, and I think the Hillel figures are extremely misleading, probably deliberately so.

    Back in 2012, I'd published my original Meritocracy analysis and obviously provoked a great deal of controversy given the total mismatch between Jewish performance and elite Jewish enrollment. Then, in 2016 the controversy resurfaced when I organized a slate of candidates to run for the Harvard Board of Overseers, probably raising concerns that the issue would remain around and eventually grow.

    The following year, the Jewish enrollment figures published by Hillel plummeted across all colleges, especially the most elite ones, thereby greatly reducing the suspicious "mismatch." As far as I can tell, Hillel did this by restricting their definition to students who are religiously Jewish. Given that Jews have traditionally been one of the most secular ethnic groups in America, this obviously eliminates the majority of Jewish students in the ethnic or ancestral sense, representing an blatant example of crypsis.

    As an example of this, Hillel claims that there is not a single "Jewish" student at Caltech, yet Caltech actually has quite a number of Jewish students:

    https://www.hillel.org/college/california-institute-of-technology/

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/hillel.caltech/

    Here's the link to my article and you can decide for yourselves whether my analysis is correct:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/challenging-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/

    If my interpretation is roughly correct, there's an absolutely shocking implication. According to my estimate, white Gentiles may have dropped to only about 10% of the students at Harvard and not much more at the other most elite colleges. By contrast, white Gentiles are roughly 60% of the entire American population and 60-70% of America's highest-performing high school students.

    Replies: @anita patel, @TWS, @Chebyshev, @JimDandy, @Prester John, @Fenster, @Return of Shawn, @That Would Be Telling

    Another place to look would be the Westinghouse Science Talent Search awardees in the late ’50s and early ’60s. Students with typically Jewish names (and often from the Greater New York area) are greatly over represented. Yet in this years Regeneron Science Talent Search (successor to the WTS) the overwhelming number of the names are South Asian and Northeast Asian (almost always Chinese) with only a smattering of typically Jewish names and almost no Japanese names. Perhaps the explanation is that Jews, like Japanese, have been so completely assimilated into American society that they have become just as fat and lazy as the laggard Gentiles. Hows that Ron you Westinghouse Science Talent Search winner?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    @anita patel


    Yet in this years Regeneron Science Talent Search (successor to the WTS) the overwhelming number of the names are South Asian and Northeast Asian (almost always Chinese) with only a smattering of typically Jewish names and almost no Japanese names.
     
    Sure. Here's the chart from my big 2012 Meritocracy analysis showing the trajectory of Science Talent Search winners, and I assume that the trends have continued since then.

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/f2a-large.jpg

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/#meritocracy-vs-jews

    Replies: @Nico

  68. @AnotherDad

    Alternatively, influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up the society where we most thrived?”
     
    For all their verbal IQ and supposed "guilt complex" stuff, Jews don't seem to get around to asking themselves those sorts of questions.

    In fact, if one raises the rather obvious point that Jews have studiously worked to blow up the society where they most strived you are an .... wait for it ... an "anti-Semite".

    But if any Jews need help answering that "why?" question, I think I can wrack my brain and come up with an answer.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anonymous, @Mike Tre

    “influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up the society where we most thrived?”

    Helping?

    [OPENS ENVELOPE]

    And the Oscar for destroying America goes to….

  69. LP5 says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    My vague impression is that dentists underwent a downturn a generation ago due to fluoride in water and toothpaste, but then they made a comeback via more cosmetic / comfort stuff like mouthguards.

    Replies: @LP5

    Steve writes:

    My vague impression is that dentists underwent a downturn a generation ago due to fluoride in water and toothpaste, but then they made a comeback via more cosmetic / comfort stuff like mouthguards.

    Dentists became mechanics and then underwent some crash courses in personality and marketing, a new chair-side manner. They realized that demographics would extend their careers and pay country club dues. There are all those boomers with amalgam fillings that need, no, demand replacing due to, uh, factors. Combine that with vanity to get veneers and whitening treatments, and with aging to start on root canals and other annuities.

    Now comes a new crop of orthodontist patients streaming across the border. Launch a program to raise taxes and dispense grants to pay for bracero braces or whatever DEI allows. There might yet be mileage along the American Way, or some hyphenated version.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @LP5


    There are all those boomers with amalgam fillings that need, no, demand replacing due to, uh, factors.
     
    Well, mercury metal is bad when it's in your mouth (very possibly true), good when it's in your light bulbs and on your floors when they get broken (not sure about that), and bad when part of some compound no doubt as it exits coal fired boiler smoke stacks (questionable given the amounts, but the excuse for the most recent big wave to shut them down, including the ones powering D.C...).
  70. @SFG
    @International Jew

    Yeah, that was kind of the read I got from it too—they were saying lay offf the woke, guys; is a queer POC woman going to buy that Jonathan Greenblatt is a person of color because MENA? Commentary had a whole special issue on how woke is bad.

    Could be wishful thinking on my part.

    Replies: @Ben Kurtz

    Tablet started off as center-left, but Woke nuttiness and their instinctive civil-liberties aversion to Covid-mania has turned them into Literally Hitler over the past 3-5 years.

    And yes, I also came away with the impression that Jews know they will count as non-white only when it hurts them (“No fancy gentile country club membership for you!”) and count as white only when it hurts them (“No fancy tenure track professorship for you! We need more Diversity!”).

    Totally on-brand for Tablet to be advocating for a return to ’90s-style moderate leftism which today is to the right of the “Far Right.”

  71. Anonymous[254] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    Alternatively, influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up the society where we most thrived?”
     
    For all their verbal IQ and supposed "guilt complex" stuff, Jews don't seem to get around to asking themselves those sorts of questions.

    In fact, if one raises the rather obvious point that Jews have studiously worked to blow up the society where they most strived you are an .... wait for it ... an "anti-Semite".

    But if any Jews need help answering that "why?" question, I think I can wrack my brain and come up with an answer.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anonymous, @Mike Tre

    A few years back, one ‘Steven Steinlight’ did query the wisdom of Jews promoting mass third world immigration into the West.

  72. Leftist ideology is about fair distribution of goods. If Jews think the U.S. is a place where their talents are no longer appreciated, they might consider migrating to other places. Since the developed world has a more or less uniform ideology, odds are they will migrate to underdeveloped countries. That will even out the worldwide talent distribution.

  73. Anonymous[254] • Disclaimer says:

    Of course, massive third world immigration into the West is a classic zero sum game, as various societal goodies are in scarce supply, as indeed is so called ‘affirmative action’. Only a damned fool or a damn liar would or could deny this – hence the negation of the bleeding obvious is the default condition of the left and The Economist.

    The USA, rather uniquely, in earlier decades had a rather enormous ‘buffer’ population of ordinary run of the mill type whites who, basically, served as the fodder for these divisive actions. So enormous that ill effects would ‘hardly be noticed’ and could be blamed on the ‘losers’ themselves and their lack of talent and vigor. ‘Of course’, went the lazy thinking, ‘it’s not talented me who will be disadvantaged, but perhaps that silly tosser down the road who I don’t know and I’m not related too’. Of course, such talk was de rigeuer amongst the white political class who brought in the legislation, and Jews being of higher IQ than gentiles, and not feeling much of a kinship with them either.

    But, alas, the unthinkable happened. The bottomless pool of ‘mediocre’ whites turned out not to be so bottomless, given the vast scale and success of anti white policy, and so the scoffers actually found *themselves* next to be thrown to the wolves ….

  74. a purge so sweeping and dramatic you almost wonder who sent out the secret memo

    Jewish writers at places like the New York Times excoriate “whites”, meaning “white gentiles” because they do not identify as white themselves. The only “secret” is that everybody else knows they are white.

    When activists and journalists and executives talk about how Broadway or NPR or publishing is “too white,” … Today it passes for social justice. …

    Jewish activists themselves are responsible for equating quotas with “social justice”. Jewish Americans are still overrepresented by a factor of 10 among powerful whites, and are suffering only because, at their own insistence, white representation has halved.

  75. @Dream
    https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1631450082229796865?t=Y5xA37iJDotxkWC4mEH8Tg&s=19

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Richard B, @anonymouseperson, @ATBOTL

    “For many Jews, the first instinct is to look inward:

    We blame intermarriage, assimilation, the loss of the immigrant work ethic. This is, of course, a cope. Because the most significant cause of the decline isn’t Jews themselves, but that American liberalism, our civic religion, has turned on us.”

    So much for looking inward.

    • Agree: Prester John
  76. One could look at this the other way around. Great institutions rise and fall. There is nothing natural about a Harvard degree being the most precious credential in America. This could all just be one of many signs that those great institutions are in their decline, looting, and finally bone picking stages.

    • Replies: @CalCooledge
    @Erik L

    Any institution straining to blackify itself is no longer an elite, or even respectable, institution.

  77. @Anonymous
    @Dream

    School in Sweden:
    https://barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/unnamed-2.jpg

    School in Russia:
    https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/pupils-school-desk-lesson-school-russia-moscow-first-high-school-first-class-b-september-schoolchildren-sit-77064862.jpg

    Sweden is joining NATO pretty soon. Because the greatest threat to Sweden is a white Christian people who excel at mathematics, build rockets and send men into space, compose classical music, write great literature,…

    Oh, yeah, that’s right, Putler and the Russkies doesn’t allow gay marriage, gay adoption, or child transgenderism so we need NATO to liberate them! 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️

    Replies: @Jack D, @AnotherDad, @Prester John, @Simon in London, @Shitposter_in Chief

    Russia is not the Whitopia of your dreams.

    Now, up to 20 percent of the population [of Moscow] may be Muslim,” he said. Demographers estimate Russia’s Islamic community may account for a majority of the nation’s population by mid-century.

    https://www.baptistpress.com/resource-library/news/muslim-population-in-russia-grows-quickly/

    Moscow at Friday prayers:

    https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.18172-8/13528508_10154354489789060_8835416173784078921_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=3z946ZIhggEAX9QqS7x&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfDnY-kD7gNL4a6nBUIPwLxo-Jt8CNs3O8mhjRZzvfgQ8g&oe=6429734B

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D

    This is not real. Muslims, as always, trump up their figures without real empirical basis. I've seen this in all of Europe & sometimes elsewhere: https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/moscow-population

    Muslims always complain that others (whites, Asians, Indians,...) dehumanize them, while they themselves boast with their fertility as their only modern "achievement" - which is a form of dehumanization.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Steve Sailer
    @Jack D

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-mosque/putin-opens-moscows-largest-mosque-warns-against-extremists-idUSKCN0RN1UD20150923

    Putin opens Moscow's largest mosque, warns against extremists
    By Reuters Staff

    2 MIN READ

    MOSCOW (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin opened Moscow’s new grand mosque on Wednesday, urging Russia’s Islamic leaders to stand against extremism at a time when some 2,400 Russians are fighting with Islamic State in the Middle East.

    , @stari_momak
    @Jack D

    Many of Russia's Muslims are physically indistinguishable from typical Eastern Europeans. Some are even whiter looking, e.g. Ramzan Kadyrov. The Russian Federation works on a Singaporean model of 'diversity'. The staatsfolk are the Great Russians, and other peoples respect that, but their own traditions are excepted.

    BTW on Telegram today there was some lovely vid of Buryats (Asian, Buddhist) gently accepting the surrender of a few Borderlanders in Bakhmut (placename ultimately from Turkish word for steppe horse, btw). Those prodigal Little Russians are now safe and will be well treated by their mother.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

  78. “To be precise, Jewish representation is not much talked about.”

    Or allowed to be talked about if the subject is the finance industry, financial gangsterism, spying, money laundering, media ownership, the porn industry, starting wars to protect internationalist gangster networks, payments to Congress, destruction of Civil War statues, and promoting hatred of white gentiles and the South in general.

    • Agree: TWS
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Curle

    You are overgeneralizing of course.

    But why must normies care? It’s YOUR obsession. Exactly like black women and their hair.

    So what do you think should be the appropriate number for Jews in the banking, legal, and entertainment industries?

    Replies: @Curle, @ATBOTL

  79. @AnotherDad
    Après le déluge, the dike bombers have got Israel?

    Where do we gentiles go?

    Replies: @Jack D


    This is a ridiculous take. Have you ever seen a map of the world? You can barely even find Israel. It’s a tiny dot on the map. You need a magnifying glass to see it. It’s so small that they can’t write “Israel” on top of Israel – they have to write it on top of Egypt. Jews have one little tiny place to call their own, but apparently this is one too many for some.

    Go to Russia, man. There’s your whitopia according to Unzites at least. That’s 1/2 the planet right there (at least on the Mercator projection).

    • Replies: @San Fernando Curt
    @Jack D


    Jews have one little tiny place to call their own, but apparently this is one too many for some.
     
    Name other groups who have such a "homeland" - secured by law, not anecdote.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Franz
    @Jack D


    Go to Russia, man.
     
    Russia is no longer the place Lee Harvey Oswald went running to.

    They fell into the same trap as every other European country which pretty much negates their status as being a "different civilization."

    At the current rate we shall all be the same NON-civilization, badly run zoos of flotsam and bad genes from every point of the compass and serving no one but the Lord of the Flies that Jews and Christians insist on calling "god".
  80. @anonymous

    Alternatively, influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up a place where we thrived?”
     
    Jonathan Greenblatt has said he fears the emergence of a Tucker Carlson like leader who rallies whites along the basis of white identity in a nationwide January 6 style rebellion. The flashpoint could be the next presidential election or in 2028. Jonathan Greenblatt is on to something since Carlson is implicitly anti-Semitic in his show monologues and even stealing vocabulary invented by Steve.

    “We’ve wondered. Anyone who’s paying attention has had to have wondered that. Well, this week, Congressman Jamie Raskin of Maryland, of Bethesda, answered that question. Russia is an orthodox Christian country with traditional social values and for that reason, it must be destroyed, no matter what the cost to us. This is not a conventional war. This is a jihad. Jamie Raskin said that out loud, but many in Washington agree with him in both parties. They would like to see World War Trans immediately….”
     
    https://twitter.com/adrianlewis310/status/1587880764749799424

    Because of their safety concerns, Jews will not turn back on the plan to get America down to 40% white by 2050 with whites at most being a simple majority in the most important institutions. Open borders with Mexico and more vigorous affirmative action in Harvard faculty hiring will be here to stay.

    Replies: @Post-Postmodernist, @James N. Kennett

    “We’ve wondered. Anyone who’s paying attention has had to have wondered that. Well, this week, Congressman Jamie Raskin of Maryland, of Bethesda, answered that question. Russia is an orthodox Christian country with traditional social values and for that reason, it must be destroyed, no matter what the cost to us. This is not a conventional war. This is a jihad. Jamie Raskin said that out loud, but many in Washington agree with him in both parties. They would like to see World War Trans immediately….”

    There is no source for the Raskin quote. It is possible that he said it privately and Carlson’s writers found out. More likely they paraphrased it from Raskin’s actual statements with a large dose of poetic license.

    Raskin’s published views are “interesting”:

    Moscow right now is a hub of corrupt tyranny, censorship, authoritarian repression, police violence, propaganda, government lies and disinformation, and planning for war crimes. It is a world center of antifeminist, antigay, anti-trans hatred, as well as the homeland of replacement theory for export. In supporting Ukraine, we are opposing these fascist views, and supporting the urgent principles of democratic pluralism. Ukraine is not perfect, of course, but its society is organized on the radically different principles of democracy and freedom, which is why Russia’s oligarchical leaders seek to destroy it forever.

    https://raskin.house.gov/press-releases?ID=C6AAEAAD-548C-444A-85AB-A77AB7FFAAE6

    Not only is the notion that we are fighting the Russians on behalf of feminists, gays and transsexuals not right; as physicists say, it is not even wrong. It is a lie so contemptible that it places Raskin in a lower circle of hell than even Tucker Carlson’s scriptwriters.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @James N. Kennett


    in a lower circle of hell than even Tucker Carlson’s scriptwriters.
     
    And that's not a good one, note how they beclowned themselves and Carlson in this monologue just after the infamous quote.

    They confused the inventory buffer we had of Diesel fuel with the total we'll ever produce or import, and of course the nation didn't run out because the Greens haven't quite yet managed to shut down enough of our refineries etc. to bring us to that catastrophic, end of civilization point.

    OK, I don't watch Carlson or any video talking head for that matter, don't like the medium, but while he's apparently saying a lot of good things, I have to wonder who's still listening to him and why.
    , @Nicholas Stix
    @James N. Kennett

    "Not only is the notion that we are fighting the Russians on behalf of feminists, gays and transsexuals not right; as physicists say, it is not even wrong. It is a lie so contemptible that it places Raskin in a lower circle of hell than even Tucker Carlson’s scriptwriters."

    People like the ADL's Jonathan Greenblatt and Jamie Raskin live in a world that has nothing to do with ordinary Jews.

    I had never heard of Raskin until now. This is a shame, because he has a couple of fetching, young daughters, especially the one with the great, um, "personality," as Johnny Mercer would have said. Of course, I'm not on the market, and rich Litvakim like the Raskins would never give the time of day to a poor Galizianer like me.

  81. TWS says:
    @Ron Unz
    @Chebyshev


    This would mean that less than 1/3 of the white students at Harvard and Yale are Jewish. They must be underreporting their numbers of Jewish students because they have been the schools most in the crosshairs of Ron’s Meritocracy articles. At Cornell, according to Hillel, more than half the white students are Jewish.
     
    Someone pointed me to this post, which I otherwise would have missed.

    I'd actually written about these issues last year, and I think the Hillel figures are extremely misleading, probably deliberately so.

    Back in 2012, I'd published my original Meritocracy analysis and obviously provoked a great deal of controversy given the total mismatch between Jewish performance and elite Jewish enrollment. Then, in 2016 the controversy resurfaced when I organized a slate of candidates to run for the Harvard Board of Overseers, probably raising concerns that the issue would remain around and eventually grow.

    The following year, the Jewish enrollment figures published by Hillel plummeted across all colleges, especially the most elite ones, thereby greatly reducing the suspicious "mismatch." As far as I can tell, Hillel did this by restricting their definition to students who are religiously Jewish. Given that Jews have traditionally been one of the most secular ethnic groups in America, this obviously eliminates the majority of Jewish students in the ethnic or ancestral sense, representing an blatant example of crypsis.

    As an example of this, Hillel claims that there is not a single "Jewish" student at Caltech, yet Caltech actually has quite a number of Jewish students:

    https://www.hillel.org/college/california-institute-of-technology/

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/hillel.caltech/

    Here's the link to my article and you can decide for yourselves whether my analysis is correct:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/challenging-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/

    If my interpretation is roughly correct, there's an absolutely shocking implication. According to my estimate, white Gentiles may have dropped to only about 10% of the students at Harvard and not much more at the other most elite colleges. By contrast, white Gentiles are roughly 60% of the entire American population and 60-70% of America's highest-performing high school students.

    Replies: @anita patel, @TWS, @Chebyshev, @JimDandy, @Prester John, @Fenster, @Return of Shawn, @That Would Be Telling

    Don’t worry, I’m sure your efforts will eventually remove that problem. Pretty soon whites will be as ubiquitous in culture and elusive in reality as Indians. I wonder if they will get reservations or if they’ll just be worked to death.

    Why so much worries about the Jews? There’s just as many Indians yet no one is worried about their numbers not breaking double digits at the Ivy league.

  82. @Buzz Mohawk

    Because what is framed as a backlash against America’s “white” centers of power is in many cases a clever sleight of hand. Jews are being disproportionately purged from liberal institutions because Jews disproportionately exist within those institutions.
     
    The real slight of hand here is the author's. He wants us to think on some level that people are being purged because they are Jewish, but they are not. They are being purged because they are white, to make room for non-whites.

    We know this, and he must know this, but he is implying that Jews are victims simply because they are Jewish. It's part of the identity, practically by definition.

    And white people, by definition, can't possibly be victims just because they are white.

    Flight from white will preserve that identity of victimhood. It has probably become a psychological imperative at this point, just to avoid cognitive dissonance.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Flight from white will preserve that identity of victimhood. It has probably become a psychological imperative at this point, just to avoid cognitive dissonance.

    POC’s don’t give a damn about no “psychological imperatives”. That’s your problem whitey.

    “Flight from white” is not going to be possible for Ashkenazi Jews, who are the great majority of American Jews. Maybe a small # of Sephardic and Israeli Jews could get away with this but your average Goldberg is not going to qualify as MENA. You can change your sex but you can’t change your race. If you try, you will be outed and deplatformed. Blacks know a POC when they see one and Goldberg ain’t no POC. Any Jew who thinks he is getting off this way is fooling himself.

    In Eastern Europe there is a small group called the Karaites who were originally from Turkish lands and who accept the Hebrew bible but not the rest of Rabbinic Judaism. For some reason, the Nazis had nothing against them. So when things got rough for the Jews in Hungary, a certain # of Ashkenazi Jews said, “Hey, Nazis, you’ve got the wrong man. I’m not Jewish, I’m a Karaite.” The Nazis didn’t buy it and POCs in America ain’t gonna buy it either. As far as POCs are concerned, Jews are the whitest of white people.

    Maybe these kind of Jedi mind tricks work on gullible, easily guilted whites but it’s not gonna fly with blacks and other POCs.

  83. @Post-Postmodernist
    @anonymous


    Because of their safety concerns, Jews will not turn back on the plan to get America down to 40% white by 2050
     
    Such a "plan",
    __was never signed on to or even merely known to either myself or any of the Jews I associate with
    __would not align but rather conflict with any of our safety concerns

    "Jews" is a very broad label that encompasses many different subsets with very different values, goals and priorities. No one can legitimately speak for all Jews.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @houston 1992, @James N. Kennett, @anonymouseperson, @anonymous, @Mike Tre

    It is a pity that the Jewish contingent among the “movers and shakers” did not consult ordinary Jewish Americans about their safety concerns.

    Marc Potok of the SPLC (allegedly) kept a list on his wall of the non-Hispanic white population by decade. It was spotted during an interview in the Netflix film “Alt-Right: Age of Rage”. I do not have Netflix so I cannot verify the claim.

  84. @MEH 0910
    @tyrone


    ….Did tiny duck join the army?
     
    'No Recent Commenting History' points to yes.

    Replies: @tyrone

    ‘No Recent Commenting History’ points to yes.

    …. Maybe he washed out of basic , although they do that nancy-boys these days.

  85. MW says:

    I’ve been wondering when this would start to happen.

    My local Conservative-movement Jewish elementary school crashed abruptly around 2010. Entering classes had been about 20 children per year for many years. Then it was 10, then six, and then the school shut down altogether.

    The demographic headwind against assimilated-but-religiously-committed Jews is real.

    Whatever was special about mid-century American Jews has mostly died. The old men may still be alive and influential, but the grandchild generation just doesn’t exist as such.

    I suspect at some point people will go to measure American Jewish IQs and won’t find anything special there either.

  86. Its funny how “Maybe Jews have gotten considerably dumber?” is not even considered as a possibility. Hell, maybe its due to miscegenation with the Irish if the sheenies want to have some sort of dignity protecting crouch about it!

    • Replies: @ginger bread man
    @Gross Terry

    Possible. There may be some reversion to the mean with intermarriage and non-intelligent non Jewish spouse.

    On the other hand, a few years ago I saw a stat that the religious group with the highest SAT scores was Unitarians, followed by Hindus, then Jews. Unitarians have a high percentage of intermarried Jews who didn’t care about their Judaism, but could only tolerate Christianity Lite.

    Replies: @choxopox, @Gross Terry

    , @Ferrari
    @Gross Terry

    No this is not a valid point since the Irish do not have low IQ. Steve wrote on this earlier and sourced to the following data, which may interest you:

    https://russellwarne.com/2022/12/17/irish-iq-the-massive-rise-that-never-happened/



    Essentially the best explanation of the late 20th century rise of the Irish IQ is that the rise never occurred. The Irish IQ was never depressed and hence the presumed environmental effects were small or non-existent.

  87. “And guess what? For purposes of diversity, Jews count as white.”

    except they don’t, as Jews themselves are the people running the campaign to get rid of europeans, and are hyper aware of the distinction between themselves and the people they’re trying to get rid of, so they’re very careful and particular to get rid of europeans and not themselves. the modern effort to get rid of europeans WAS STARTED BY JEWS. this is game theory. this is evolutionary strategy. they will then count their much smaller numbers in whatever organization as the allowed number of ‘whites’, and be victorious. it is Jews telling you that they’re the same as you for this trick, that they’re in the same group as you. you didn’t come to that conclusion yourself. indeed, your ancestors all knew Jews were not europeans.

    if Jews are europeans, how can bashing them be ‘anti-Semitic’? they are literally biologically identified as a genetic outgroup. like Gypsies, they are not people of europe. we know Jews are not europeans for many biological and social reasons, just like we know Gypsies are not. they’re easily identified as outgroups on genetic tests, which Steve is normally super into, but not on this topic for some reason.

    but what’s important is that Jews themselves are extremely aware they are not europeans, and behave as such. they’re ‘white’ until it’s time to start blaming ‘whites’ for group associated bad stuff at which time they instantly become Jews and not ‘white’. using the standard rules that all groups use for shared credit but isolating blame. just as Andy Murray is British when he wins Wimbledon, but that annoying Scottish wanker when he loses, Jews are ‘white’ until it’s time to start talking about who killed the Indians, who enslaved the africans, then they had nothing to do with it. it’s one or the other. it can’t be both. in the latter case, Jews are correct. they are not europeans. conversely, while they demand shared blame for europeans (some guy who just moved to the US from Poland last year also killed the Indians and enslaved the africans), they vigorously protest the same application of this concept to Jews. it’s ‘anti-Semitism’ to engage in pattern recognition when it comes to them.

    so eventually anything they control, they’ll be the only non-vibrant people left. they can then perversely even use this even further to their advantage when complaining about how european men control everything in some industry and how we really need to keep the pressure on to get rid of all these pale penis persons, when it’s actually Jews who control everything who have also methodically gotten rid of all the european leadership in that industry. you have to hand it to them, that’s crafty. they’ve been doing that a lot in Hollywood and professional sports. take out a few of their own bad actors and blame european men for it. “White men” are praying on young actresses. “White owners” of sports teams are secretly harassing the africans in private. they were all Jews, not europeans.

    • Thanks: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @prime noticer

    Exactly so.

  88. Haman hoisted on his own noose comes to mind…is photo negative of the Esther story

  89. Anonymous[258] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve, have Jews gone down faster than whites? Or slower? Or about the same? Missing this analysis, in your essay. Would affect how we evaluate the change.

    E.g. if geography/athlete/legacy are having an adverse effect on Jewish NYC kids from middle class homes, then I can see their point. Although smart gentile nebbishes (they do exist) would be impacted also.

    Or perhaps whites are declining faster than Jews and this is just a boo hoo hoo. I donno. I will search through some of the linked articles and see if the %Jew/%white is in there.

    P.s. Not the be too “more gruel”ish, but you like to count and data sort and all. Would think doing this fraction would be first thing for you.

    • Replies: @arnie
    @Anonymous

    I'd like to know what % of legacy or donor admits are Jewish. We're all just supposed to assume they are old money WASPs from Connecticut but I'd bet a large percentage are Jewish.

  90. PeC says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Fluesterwitz

    But, so far, intra-Jewish discussions about how actually, we aren't white haven't managed to persuade DIE bean-counters in the slightest. It could happen in the future, such as with the Biden Administration's MENA plan, but so far it hasn't.

    Replies: @Shamu, @PeC, @Corvinus

    Alternatively, influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up the society where we most thrived?”

    Alternatively, you could drop the biweekly moronic “stop already Jewz! you clearly are white so join the Wholesome Team and fight with us against this leftist craziness!” theme. It is not only sad and boring, but how could this ever work in a million years?

    But of course, you are probably being disingenous. You surely have already figured out your role as a mere palliative, and this post mission is to cater to the “antisemites” among your readership… without too much controversy. So more of them will “tend” to donate when Panhandling Time comes.

    But let us supose you really are not that bright, and need to be explained by a non American how identity politics work in the USA. Read the following carefully, 10 times at least, and then take your time and let it sink in afterwards:

    Whether Jews are considered white or not by the DIE bean counters – or bread-and-circuses boomer HBD bloggers – is irrelevant, for Jews are already allowed to lobby as an ethnic group and are not currently being demonized by mainstream media, academia and the USG.

    Unlike whites ie European Americans of Christian descent.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @PeC

    The complaint of the cited article is that the ethnic cut out strategy is not a protection in the DIE world.

  91. @Ron Unz
    @Chebyshev


    This would mean that less than 1/3 of the white students at Harvard and Yale are Jewish. They must be underreporting their numbers of Jewish students because they have been the schools most in the crosshairs of Ron’s Meritocracy articles. At Cornell, according to Hillel, more than half the white students are Jewish.
     
    Someone pointed me to this post, which I otherwise would have missed.

    I'd actually written about these issues last year, and I think the Hillel figures are extremely misleading, probably deliberately so.

    Back in 2012, I'd published my original Meritocracy analysis and obviously provoked a great deal of controversy given the total mismatch between Jewish performance and elite Jewish enrollment. Then, in 2016 the controversy resurfaced when I organized a slate of candidates to run for the Harvard Board of Overseers, probably raising concerns that the issue would remain around and eventually grow.

    The following year, the Jewish enrollment figures published by Hillel plummeted across all colleges, especially the most elite ones, thereby greatly reducing the suspicious "mismatch." As far as I can tell, Hillel did this by restricting their definition to students who are religiously Jewish. Given that Jews have traditionally been one of the most secular ethnic groups in America, this obviously eliminates the majority of Jewish students in the ethnic or ancestral sense, representing an blatant example of crypsis.

    As an example of this, Hillel claims that there is not a single "Jewish" student at Caltech, yet Caltech actually has quite a number of Jewish students:

    https://www.hillel.org/college/california-institute-of-technology/

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/hillel.caltech/

    Here's the link to my article and you can decide for yourselves whether my analysis is correct:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/challenging-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/

    If my interpretation is roughly correct, there's an absolutely shocking implication. According to my estimate, white Gentiles may have dropped to only about 10% of the students at Harvard and not much more at the other most elite colleges. By contrast, white Gentiles are roughly 60% of the entire American population and 60-70% of America's highest-performing high school students.

    Replies: @anita patel, @TWS, @Chebyshev, @JimDandy, @Prester John, @Fenster, @Return of Shawn, @That Would Be Telling

    Thanks – your articles have been very educative.

    The following year, the Jewish enrollment figures published by Hillel plummeted across all colleges, especially the most elite ones, thereby greatly reducing the suspicious “mismatch.” As far as I can tell, Hillel did this by restricting their definition to students who are religiously Jewish.

    But do you think Hillel is doing this for the lower profile Ivies? I assume the 21% Jewish figure for Cornell doesn’t only include religious Jews, nor does the 24% figure for Brown. I assume those schools can be more honest about their Jewish numbers because they aren’t in the spotlight quite as much as HYP.

    https://www.hillel.org/college/cornell-university/

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    @Chebyshev


    But do you think Hillel is doing this for the lower profile Ivies? I assume the 21% Jewish figure for Cornell doesn’t only include religious Jews, nor does the 24% figure for Brown.
     
    That's interesting. The sudden collapse in Hillel numbers at the HYP colleges came the year after my Harvard Overseer campaign and I noticed that the new Harvard numbers were suspiciously close to the percentage of religiously Jewish students at the college. Then the 0% I found at Caltech seemed to confirm my analysis. But I didn't bother checking other colleges at the time, so it's possible that the apparent change in Hillel's methodology was implemented at some chapters but not at others.
  92. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    https://geology.com/world/world-map.gif

    This is a ridiculous take. Have you ever seen a map of the world? You can barely even find Israel. It's a tiny dot on the map. You need a magnifying glass to see it. It's so small that they can't write "Israel" on top of Israel - they have to write it on top of Egypt. Jews have one little tiny place to call their own, but apparently this is one too many for some.

    Go to Russia, man. There's your whitopia according to Unzites at least. That's 1/2 the planet right there (at least on the Mercator projection).

    Replies: @San Fernando Curt, @Franz

    Jews have one little tiny place to call their own, but apparently this is one too many for some.

    Name other groups who have such a “homeland” – secured by law, not anecdote.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @San Fernando Curt

    In 30 countries, heads of state must belong to a certain religion, mostly Muslim:

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/22/in-30-countries-heads-of-state-must-belong-to-a-certain-religion/

  93. @Anonymous
    @Dream

    School in Sweden:
    https://barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/unnamed-2.jpg

    School in Russia:
    https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/pupils-school-desk-lesson-school-russia-moscow-first-high-school-first-class-b-september-schoolchildren-sit-77064862.jpg

    Sweden is joining NATO pretty soon. Because the greatest threat to Sweden is a white Christian people who excel at mathematics, build rockets and send men into space, compose classical music, write great literature,…

    Oh, yeah, that’s right, Putler and the Russkies doesn’t allow gay marriage, gay adoption, or child transgenderism so we need NATO to liberate them! 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️

    Replies: @Jack D, @AnotherDad, @Prester John, @Simon in London, @Shitposter_in Chief

    Oh, yeah, that’s right, Putler and the Russkies doesn’t allow gay marriage, gay adoption, or child transgenderism so we need NATO to liberate them! 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️

    That’s a–one particular–school in Sweden, and a–one particular–school in Russia.

    Sweden is indeed a good white disaster. A quarter of the people now aren’t Swedish or even part Swedish. Though a good chunk of those are “close enough”, it has definitely destroyed itself by importing vibrants. Sweden probably needs some sort of nationalist coup/separation now to save it, or even a piece of it.

    But actual Russia is less and less Russian as well. It is more and more full of Muslims–including lots of illegals in from the ‘stans–who actually breed, while white/Russian fertility remains in the dumper. By the end of the century, it could well be a big sprawling–majority muslim!–pig pile.

    Putin could have–should have–focused on making sure Russian schools that looked like that, kept looking that. But your imagined whitopia does not interest Putin. He’s a guy who fought bloody war–leveled Grozny–to keep the Chechens in Russia. How f’ing stupid is that? And now Putin–not NATO–launched a sleazy 1914 style imperialist war, that is slaughtering thousands of Russia’s and Ukraine’s young men. Brilliant!

    You guys can keep blathering on idiotically with your Putin fantasies, but he is what he is–a Czar wannabe, a 19th century style Russian imperialist, completely consumed with being a “big man” expanding the scope and power of the Russian Empire and utterly unconcerned with making Russia a great nation for Russians to live in.

    Calling a pig “George Washington” doesn’t actually change the character of the pig. It’s still goes “oink”.

    • Thanks: Jack D
    • Replies: @Prester John
    @AnotherDad

    Starting with the guy who called himself "Lenin" and going forward, in one way or another they were ALL "czar wannabes", especially the guy who liked to call himself "Koba."

    , @Johann Ricke
    @AnotherDad


    But actual Russia is less and less Russian as well. It is more and more full of Muslims–including lots of illegals in from the ‘stans–who actually breed, while white/Russian fertility remains in the dumper. By the end of the century, it could well be a big sprawling–majority muslim!–pig pile.

    Putin could have–should have–focused on making sure Russian schools that looked like that, kept looking that. But your imagined whitopia does not interest Putin. He’s a guy who fought bloody war–leveled Grozny–to keep the Chechens in Russia. How f’ing stupid is that? And now Putin–not NATO–launched a sleazy 1914 style imperialist war, that is slaughtering thousands of Russia’s and Ukraine’s young men. Brilliant!
     
    Many on the alt-right have these racial fantasies about empire-builders that don't really hold up when you look at the history books. Hitler was probably the only somewhat successful conqueror* who wanted to kill every single member of any out-group that struck his fancy.

    Most conquerors want to rule the world, not empty it of the groups they hate. The Persians had fought the Greeks for centuries before Alexander set out to conquer the world. When he conquered Persia, he married into the Persian nobility and employed large numbers of Persians in his armies, to the extent he almost caused a mutiny.

    Fact is - conquerors are into self-aggrandizement, not the advancement of any particular tribe, even their own. When the Mongols conquered vast Muslim lands, they converted in order to ease the process of integrating their new subjects into their armies. In time, they would wage jihad against their heathen (shamanistic/Buddhist) co-ethnic Mongols in order to expand their own domains. Note that the self-interest at issue here was always personal, not tribal in some overarching sense.

    If Putin felt that converting to Islam would spur his troops to greater effort and/or help win his wars for fame and glory, he would. To paraphrase the Huguenot aristocrat Henry IV of Navarre's laconic statement many centuries ago, "DC is worth a shahada". While the catechisms and liturgies might differ, one notional deity is much like another.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahada

    * Hitler's initial successes were due to the fact that he rose to the top of an industrial economy second only to the US, not some preternatural skill in the military arts. If Hitler had become the Fuhrer of Czechoslovakia, he'd likely have been squashed like a bug. His main achievement was political - his rise from humble roots to leader of a major power in Europe.

    Replies: @Curle

    , @CalCooledge
    @AnotherDad

    It is a war of white Christians killing white Christians. Probably one reason the ruling class doesn't want peace. When it eventually ends, they'll move in millions of Africans to repopulate and diversify.

    , @stari_momak
    @AnotherDad

    "You guys can keep blathering on idiotically with your Putin fantasies, but he is what he is–a Czar wannabe, a 19th century style Russian imperialist, completely consumed with being a “big man” expanding the scope and power of the Russian Empire and utterly unconcerned with making Russia a great nation for Russians to live in."

    You seem not to know how utterly messed up Russia was in the 1990s under the gentle guidance of neoliberals. From security (kindergarteners held hostage, apartment buildings blown up ...no the Russians didn't do that to themselves) to life expectancy, everything crashed. Putin literally reversed that. So he and his team have made Russia a lot better for actual Russians (and Tatars and Chechens and Komi etc).

  94. @Chebyshev

    Harvard has gone from being 25% Jewish in the 1990s and 2000s to under 10% today...A couple of years ago, [Yale’s] chaplain told Meir Chaim Posner, the Chabad rabbi at Yale, that around 11% of Yale undergraduates were Jewish.
     
    This would mean that less than 1/3 of the white students at Harvard and Yale are Jewish. They must be underreporting their numbers of Jewish students because they have been the schools most in the crosshairs of Ron's Meritocracy articles. At Cornell, according to Hillel, more than half the white students are Jewish.

    Replies: @Ron Unz, @Dutch Boy, @Travis

    My impression has been that Jews were all in on affirmative action because they believed that it would predominately affect white Christians and that their wealth and connections would largely exempt them from any negative effects. In other words, AA is just cultural and economic warfare against their favorite enemies.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Dutch Boy

    Jews were famously opposed to this kind of discrimination in the early days (1970s), because they feared that it would be extended to them.

  95. “Alternatively, influential Jews could wake up and say, ‘Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up the society where we most thrived?’”

    That question is the fundamental starting point of Jewish Neoconservatism, which is not just about getting Americans to die and otherwise sacrifice their interests for Israel (though that has become a big part of it.)

    But before that, at the beginning, it was about being “mugged by reality.”

    It’s not easy for Jews to choose between the pursuit of vengeful, pound-of-flesh subversion of the host goy cultures and settling for some sort of parasitic modus vivendi that preserves just enough cultural sustenance to keep the sickened host from going under entirely. Each has its appeal and its risks.

  96. @Dream
    https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1631450082229796865?t=Y5xA37iJDotxkWC4mEH8Tg&s=19

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Richard B, @anonymouseperson, @ATBOTL

    Sweden was the perfect country and they had to FU** it up with nonwhites.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @anonymouseperson


    Sweden was the perfect country and they had to FU** it up with nonwhites.
     
    Agree.

    It's absolutely amazing what they had there. Traditionally, and till hundred years ago it was often generally poorer than the West, because of overhead of life at high latitude and the lack of scale.

    But you go there--even today--and realize how utterly awesome it would have been just a few decades back. Basically the Pacific Northwest ... without the "diversity". A huge place with a limited but competent, well-behaved population so anyone with their act together could enjoy a home, a vacation cottage on a lake, a hunting cabin. The virtues of not being overcrowded are many.

    But they all learned English and kept hearing that "multiculturalism" and "diversity" are good, and "racism" and "xenophobia" are bad, bad, bad--Nazi stuff.

    And now they either have to turn Nazi and get Nasty--fast--or they are dead.

    Replies: @houston 1992, @anonymous, @Gross Terry

    , @Corvinus
    @anonymouseperson

    “Sweden was the perfect country and they had to FU** it up with nonwhites.“

    That’s absolutely batshit insane for you to say.

    But if you want to play that stupid game, the U.S. was the perfect country until Eastern and Southern Europeans showed up on our shores.

    You have to go back.

    Replies: @Verymuchalive

  97. @Twinkie
    @ScarletNumber


    New Jersey
     
    New Jersey, did someone say New Jersey?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/03/01/student-school-hijab-maplewood-new-jersey/

    She pushed back her student’s hijab. Was it a mistake or an act of hate?
    Evidence of antisemitism competed against allegations of Islamophobia as an online debate divided this suburban community along racial and religious lines.
     
    Almost a comical article. A Jewish teacher at a public school tried to pull back what she thought was a hoodie of a Muslim girl. The girl claimed her Hijab was forcibly removed, the father of the girl launched anti-Jewish invectives and sued the district (and got several hundreds of thousands of dollars), the teacher was put on leave and her life destroyed, the mother privately told the teacher that the girl overreacted and that she was actually the girl's favorite teacher, a female Muslim Olympic fencer who was a friend of the teacher (and whom the teacher had cited as a shining example of womanhood) turned on her and launched a social media mob to fire her, etc.

    What. A. Train. Wreck.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Prester John, @Anon

    “What. A. Train. Wreck.”

    Indeed. Ostensibly though it’s what we wanted (c.f. “The House I Live In”, Sinatra’s WWII anthem, Jefferson’s Declaration, the Lazarus poem etc. etc.).

    We reap what we sow–and the results are unfolding. Haphazardly of course.

  98. So the number of Asians at the Ivy League grew from 12% in 1990 to 21% today , while the number of Jews declined from 25% to 10% over the past 32 years.

    Jews are still over-represented by a factor of 5 and Asians are over-represented by a factor of 3 at the Ivy colleges. Christian Whites are under-represented at the top colleges. Only about 40% of students are non-Jewish White, although 50% of high school grads are White.

    in 1990 the US had 6 million Jews and today we have 7 million Jews. While we had 189 million whites in 1990 and today just 187 million whites. So the Jewish population is doing better than the white population. If we exclude Jews and other MENA people from the white population we have just 178 million Whites today a decline of 5 million since 1990.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco


    So the number of Asians at the Ivy League grew from 12% in 1990 to 21% today , while the number of Jews declined from 25% to 10% over the past 32 years
     
    Sure, that would have made perfect sense. But as I've discussed in my articles, that's not what actually happened. As I wrote in 2018:

    Many years ago as a young and naive undergraduate, I would usually spend my dinners discussing all sorts of political and policy issues with my fellow classmates in our Harvard dining hall.

    Affirmative Action was a regular topic of our conversations, and I would occasionally note how odd America was in that regard. No other example came to mind in which an ethnic group had established a legalized system of racial discrimination against its own members, while similar sorts of systems aimed at excluding or disadvantaging rival ethnic groups were all too common in world history.

    As the decades went by, I gradually noticed that the huge and continuing increase in the enrollment of non-white and foreign students at our most elite universities had caused a complete collapse in the enrollment of white American Gentiles, but oddly enough, no similar reduction in Jewish numbers. It was well-known that Jewish activists had been the primary force behind the establishment of Affirmative Action and related policies in college admissions, and I began to wonder about their true motivation, whether conscious or unconscious.

    Had the goal been the stated one, of providing educational opportunities to previously excluded groups? Or had that merely been the excuse used to advance a policy that eliminated the majority of white Gentiles, their primary ethnic competitors? With the Jewish population numbering merely 2%, there was an obvious limit as to how many elite college slots they themselves could possibly fill, but if enough other groups were also brought in, then Gentile numbers could easily be reduced to low levels, despite the fact that they constituted the bulk of the national population.

    Asians represented an interesting test-case. As their numbers rapidly grew, white Gentiles were consequently pushed out, and this process was celebrated across the academic community. But by the late 1980s, Asian numbers had increased to such an extent that they inevitably began to impinge upon elite Jewish enrollment as well and future increases would surely worsen the situation. And at that point, the process suddenly halted, with Asian numbers being sharply reduced and thereafter permanently capped. The implications of this situation were already in the back of my mind when I published my 1998 Wall Street Journal column describing some of these striking racial facts.

    The current high-profile trial in Boston is widely portrayed by the media as a conflict between Asian-American groups, whose educational interests suffer under the current subjective and opaque admissions system, and black and Hispanic groups, whose numbers might be sharply reduced under some proposed changes. Whites are largely portrayed as bystanders, with Harvard indicating that their numbers would scarcely shift even under drastic changes in admissions policy. But the term “white” encompasses both Jews and Gentiles, and thus may conceal more than it reveals.
     
    So for 30 years, Jewish numbers remained the same or even increased, but then suddenly disappeared the year after my unsuccessful campaign for the Harvard Board of Overseers. I strongly suspect this merely involved a matter of redefinition:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/challenging-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/

    Replies: @Gross Terry

  99. @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous


    Oh, yeah, that’s right, Putler and the Russkies doesn’t allow gay marriage, gay adoption, or child transgenderism so we need NATO to liberate them! 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️
     
    That's a--one particular--school in Sweden, and a--one particular--school in Russia.

    Sweden is indeed a good white disaster. A quarter of the people now aren't Swedish or even part Swedish. Though a good chunk of those are "close enough", it has definitely destroyed itself by importing vibrants. Sweden probably needs some sort of nationalist coup/separation now to save it, or even a piece of it.

    But actual Russia is less and less Russian as well. It is more and more full of Muslims--including lots of illegals in from the 'stans--who actually breed, while white/Russian fertility remains in the dumper. By the end of the century, it could well be a big sprawling--majority muslim!--pig pile.

    Putin could have--should have--focused on making sure Russian schools that looked like that, kept looking that. But your imagined whitopia does not interest Putin. He's a guy who fought bloody war--leveled Grozny--to keep the Chechens in Russia. How f'ing stupid is that? And now Putin--not NATO--launched a sleazy 1914 style imperialist war, that is slaughtering thousands of Russia's and Ukraine's young men. Brilliant!

    You guys can keep blathering on idiotically with your Putin fantasies, but he is what he is--a Czar wannabe, a 19th century style Russian imperialist, completely consumed with being a "big man" expanding the scope and power of the Russian Empire and utterly unconcerned with making Russia a great nation for Russians to live in.

    Calling a pig "George Washington" doesn't actually change the character of the pig. It's still goes "oink".

    Replies: @Prester John, @Johann Ricke, @CalCooledge, @stari_momak

    Starting with the guy who called himself “Lenin” and going forward, in one way or another they were ALL “czar wannabes”, especially the guy who liked to call himself “Koba.”

  100. @Post-Postmodernist
    @anonymous


    Because of their safety concerns, Jews will not turn back on the plan to get America down to 40% white by 2050
     
    Such a "plan",
    __was never signed on to or even merely known to either myself or any of the Jews I associate with
    __would not align but rather conflict with any of our safety concerns

    "Jews" is a very broad label that encompasses many different subsets with very different values, goals and priorities. No one can legitimately speak for all Jews.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @houston 1992, @James N. Kennett, @anonymouseperson, @anonymous, @Mike Tre

    Pretty much every single Jewish organization in the world outside of Israel is 100% for open borders, mass immigration and diversity (except to Israel).

    • Replies: @Nachum
    @anonymouseperson

    In many cases, including to Israel.

    Israel's population, which is over half the world population of Jews, is not on board.

  101. @Anonymous
    @Dream

    School in Sweden:
    https://barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/unnamed-2.jpg

    School in Russia:
    https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/pupils-school-desk-lesson-school-russia-moscow-first-high-school-first-class-b-september-schoolchildren-sit-77064862.jpg

    Sweden is joining NATO pretty soon. Because the greatest threat to Sweden is a white Christian people who excel at mathematics, build rockets and send men into space, compose classical music, write great literature,…

    Oh, yeah, that’s right, Putler and the Russkies doesn’t allow gay marriage, gay adoption, or child transgenderism so we need NATO to liberate them! 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️

    Replies: @Jack D, @AnotherDad, @Prester John, @Simon in London, @Shitposter_in Chief

    Not too many future Vikings among THAT crowd!

  102. @Ron Unz
    @Chebyshev


    This would mean that less than 1/3 of the white students at Harvard and Yale are Jewish. They must be underreporting their numbers of Jewish students because they have been the schools most in the crosshairs of Ron’s Meritocracy articles. At Cornell, according to Hillel, more than half the white students are Jewish.
     
    Someone pointed me to this post, which I otherwise would have missed.

    I'd actually written about these issues last year, and I think the Hillel figures are extremely misleading, probably deliberately so.

    Back in 2012, I'd published my original Meritocracy analysis and obviously provoked a great deal of controversy given the total mismatch between Jewish performance and elite Jewish enrollment. Then, in 2016 the controversy resurfaced when I organized a slate of candidates to run for the Harvard Board of Overseers, probably raising concerns that the issue would remain around and eventually grow.

    The following year, the Jewish enrollment figures published by Hillel plummeted across all colleges, especially the most elite ones, thereby greatly reducing the suspicious "mismatch." As far as I can tell, Hillel did this by restricting their definition to students who are religiously Jewish. Given that Jews have traditionally been one of the most secular ethnic groups in America, this obviously eliminates the majority of Jewish students in the ethnic or ancestral sense, representing an blatant example of crypsis.

    As an example of this, Hillel claims that there is not a single "Jewish" student at Caltech, yet Caltech actually has quite a number of Jewish students:

    https://www.hillel.org/college/california-institute-of-technology/

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/hillel.caltech/

    Here's the link to my article and you can decide for yourselves whether my analysis is correct:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/challenging-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/

    If my interpretation is roughly correct, there's an absolutely shocking implication. According to my estimate, white Gentiles may have dropped to only about 10% of the students at Harvard and not much more at the other most elite colleges. By contrast, white Gentiles are roughly 60% of the entire American population and 60-70% of America's highest-performing high school students.

    Replies: @anita patel, @TWS, @Chebyshev, @JimDandy, @Prester John, @Fenster, @Return of Shawn, @That Would Be Telling

    And how much of that 10% is made up of legacies, coming from a tiny percentage of elites? I’d guess most of them, meaning that Harvard’s doors are basically closed to regular white America.

  103. Jews crying wolf again now that whites are increasingly aware of their complete control on every aspect of people’s lives in the West? How about look into Wall Street or count number of billionaires to see how much Jews are over represented there? At least 1/3 of Forbes 400 richest in the US are Jews. Cry me a river.

  104. anonymous[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @Post-Postmodernist
    @anonymous


    Because of their safety concerns, Jews will not turn back on the plan to get America down to 40% white by 2050
     
    Such a "plan",
    __was never signed on to or even merely known to either myself or any of the Jews I associate with
    __would not align but rather conflict with any of our safety concerns

    "Jews" is a very broad label that encompasses many different subsets with very different values, goals and priorities. No one can legitimately speak for all Jews.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @houston 1992, @James N. Kennett, @anonymouseperson, @anonymous, @Mike Tre

    Whites were going to be 45% of the population by 2050 based on already existing momentum. Since the turbocharged immigration policies of the Biden admin, it looks like 40% is the goal. This has not been clearly stated in a memo given to everyone but based on the millions allowed in through the southern border in two years under Biden it is apparent the process of replacing the white population is going faster than before.

    The ADL the nation’s top Jewish organization is doing its part to help by organizing an advertising boycott and trying to get Carlson fired after he pointed out there is a plan of replacement. “Shortly after that segment aired, Greenblatt and the ADL said that Carlson needed to be fired because his comments mirrored a white supremacist tenet called the “great replacement” theory.” The ADL wants to make sure other media are afraid to mention the plan. If whites are 40% of the population and a simple majority of the most important instituions then it will not be possible for a future Tucker Carlson like demagogue to succeed. Jewish leaders have a very long term vision to protect the community. They understand even if things are going very well now there is always the possibility of the outbreak of violent anti-Semitism. Every 50 years in America there is a fourth turning turning American society upside down. Without intervention the next 4th turning in the 2070s could see white people turn on Jews in a vicious way.

  105. About those #s.

    Ron Unz makes a compelling case that non-Jewish whites r by far the most underrepresented group in the Ivies relative to ability. His piece is SUPER-long but I assume you read it. His charts were killer!
    https://www.unz.com/runz/challenging-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/

    This piece comports more w/my observations which began in the 60s when my brother & a friend got perfect SAT scores, the highest in a 3-state area. The SAT was harder in those days. My broh worked 30-40 hrs a week as kids w/6 other siblings r wont to do [some off book when he was 15-18], was a superb athlete, & excruciatingly funny. Charming. But he did not get into Harvard. Wanted to be a physicist like my brilliant uncle [who invented the polymer they shot under the Hunley Submarine to cradle it]. Ended up going to Rensselaer Poly for engineering cuz he got a full ride. Shortly before he got there, they closed down their physics program but the die was cast. Became an electrical engineer instead. Had to hitchhike home to KY for breaks. While working at GE, they offered a full ride to Georgetown Law w/a full salary. That day he was accepted into med school. Later became a neurologist. Lovely guy. Very happy so this isn’t a sob story but it still pisses me off.

    Note: Harvard redeemed themselves somewhat as my nephew graduated from Harvard law 3 yrs ago. Though his LSATs were phenomenal, he half-jokingly says Harvard ONLY admitted him as a diversity choice – kids from KY r MIA there.

  106. @Ron Unz
    @Chebyshev


    This would mean that less than 1/3 of the white students at Harvard and Yale are Jewish. They must be underreporting their numbers of Jewish students because they have been the schools most in the crosshairs of Ron’s Meritocracy articles. At Cornell, according to Hillel, more than half the white students are Jewish.
     
    Someone pointed me to this post, which I otherwise would have missed.

    I'd actually written about these issues last year, and I think the Hillel figures are extremely misleading, probably deliberately so.

    Back in 2012, I'd published my original Meritocracy analysis and obviously provoked a great deal of controversy given the total mismatch between Jewish performance and elite Jewish enrollment. Then, in 2016 the controversy resurfaced when I organized a slate of candidates to run for the Harvard Board of Overseers, probably raising concerns that the issue would remain around and eventually grow.

    The following year, the Jewish enrollment figures published by Hillel plummeted across all colleges, especially the most elite ones, thereby greatly reducing the suspicious "mismatch." As far as I can tell, Hillel did this by restricting their definition to students who are religiously Jewish. Given that Jews have traditionally been one of the most secular ethnic groups in America, this obviously eliminates the majority of Jewish students in the ethnic or ancestral sense, representing an blatant example of crypsis.

    As an example of this, Hillel claims that there is not a single "Jewish" student at Caltech, yet Caltech actually has quite a number of Jewish students:

    https://www.hillel.org/college/california-institute-of-technology/

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/hillel.caltech/

    Here's the link to my article and you can decide for yourselves whether my analysis is correct:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/challenging-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/

    If my interpretation is roughly correct, there's an absolutely shocking implication. According to my estimate, white Gentiles may have dropped to only about 10% of the students at Harvard and not much more at the other most elite colleges. By contrast, white Gentiles are roughly 60% of the entire American population and 60-70% of America's highest-performing high school students.

    Replies: @anita patel, @TWS, @Chebyshev, @JimDandy, @Prester John, @Fenster, @Return of Shawn, @That Would Be Telling

    “Hillel did this by restricting their definition to students who are religiously Jewish.”

    It would be interesting to know roughly what percentage of the “Jewish” population in this country practice Judaism as a religious act, rather than ID themselves as “cultural Jews.” Merely commemorating The Exodus during Passover doesn’t count. I mean those who actually attend services and adhere to their traditions. The sense I have is that the number is pretty low, but I could be wrong.

  107. “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up the society where we most thrived?”

    Now that’s just crazy talk.

  108. @Anonymous
    @Dream

    School in Sweden:
    https://barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/unnamed-2.jpg

    School in Russia:
    https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/pupils-school-desk-lesson-school-russia-moscow-first-high-school-first-class-b-september-schoolchildren-sit-77064862.jpg

    Sweden is joining NATO pretty soon. Because the greatest threat to Sweden is a white Christian people who excel at mathematics, build rockets and send men into space, compose classical music, write great literature,…

    Oh, yeah, that’s right, Putler and the Russkies doesn’t allow gay marriage, gay adoption, or child transgenderism so we need NATO to liberate them! 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️

    Replies: @Jack D, @AnotherDad, @Prester John, @Simon in London, @Shitposter_in Chief

    “the greatest threat to Sweden is a white Christian people who excel at mathematics, build rockets and send men into space, compose classical music, write great literature”

    These are indeed the countries with enough Asabiya to threaten their neighbours.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Simon in London

    You couldn't fill a thimble with the amount of Asabiyyah that exists in Russia. The place is every man for himself.

    I think the word you are looking for is dezinformatsiya. Ukraine is not threatened by Pushkin or Tchaikovsky. Rockets yes. The reason that the Soviets were interested in rocketry was because they were weapons. The USSR was backwards EXCEPT for things that had a military application. Their whole economy was geared toward "military first". To some extent, Putin benefitted from the (seemingly) endless amount of artillery shells and tanks, etc. that the USSR built but after a year of war they have burned a lot of that stuff up and modern Russia doesn't have that kind of manufacturing ability anymore.

    By the way, what do you think a kindergarten in Ukraine looks like? Aren't they white Christian people too? Putin's rockets are not killing all those terrible brown trannies in Sweden - they are killing white Christians. And getting a lot of Russian white Christian soldiers killed too. Why don't those white Christians count?

    Replies: @Simon in London

  109. I’m glad you got into this article; I just posted it yesterday in the comments of another Unz artcle.

    Part of my point- It’s going to be very interesting to see the Jews try to thread the needle of “we’re not white, like the bad whites, we’re the historically most oppressed people ever, but we are also very wealthy, influential, and powerful, but please let us join your group of oppressed peoples”

    Especially to the dumbed-down dolts they’d be trying to partner with. The low education, socialized idiots that only see skin color as a minority bona fide. All those minorities of color, aren’t going to be able to understand the inclusion of rich, seemingly white Jews.

    They’re not even really keen on having the homos, trannies, and various non-gender freaks being in their camp, especially the white ones. Also, blacks and Mexicans don’t actually like each other, and the middle eastern Muslims are yet another challenge.

    This is the root problem of creating a big tent of aggrieved colored minorities. Sure, you can glob them together as a loosely associated conglomerate of unpowerful malcontents, and that will work, until any of them have any success at it. then what? In this moment, it’s the blacks that are getting some fruits from all this, and the super-gay-gender-queers. Are they going to want to share that success with the 30+ million Mexicans? The Muslims? Side note: American blacks and African immigrant blacks don’t like each other either. Truthfully, nobody likes American blacks.

    So-
    American blacks
    LGTBQIA+$%#@ queers (although the L’s are already getting tossed aside)
    Muslims, mostly middle eastern Arab types, so “people of color”
    Asians (a minority, but successful, so they aren’t really on the team)
    Mexicans, and other Hispanics, legal, illegal, etc.
    African blacks, Haitians, Somalis, etc.
    Native Americans? (I’ve never bought this, they don’t really seem interested en masse)

    Basically, all the favored groups right now, most of which can be spotted from 50 yards based solely on their skin color.
    That makes all the white queers on the fringe, and almost all of those colored groups, hate the queers, so that partnership is doomed.

    How the Hell are they gonna find room under that tent for affluent, intellectual, powerful, Jews?

    Prediction- The conglomeration of various “oppressed people of color, etc.” is going to fracture back into their own camps.
    And the Jews? Well, they” have to start banging that holocaust drum even louder, not that anybody cares. Truth is, it was largely only the whites, that they despise, that ever bought into that shit anyway.
    The blacks don’t care, and the Muslims think “6 million wasn’t enough”.
    Other than the perverted Jewish queers, the super-gay camp isn’t pro-Jewish, they are only pro-pervert.
    I don’t think the Mexicans like anyone else in the tent at all.

    Basically, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” built this disparate group, but that won’t keep it together, especially as a couple of those groups get so much praise and favor, and the others feel left out and forgotten.

    It will be fun to watch.

  110. @Joe Stalin
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCZJo0teyvo

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Brás Cubas

    What I got from the video is that China’s “interference” consists in pushing candidates who will not bother China over its internal affairs. Conversely, this journalist’s ideal of a “patriotic” and “independent” candidate is a Chinese ethnic who seems primarily concerned with China’s internal affairs.
    As everyone knows, Canada has a huge ethnic Chinese community, large enough that they easily elect a certain number of political representatives which are also ethnic Chinese. These are people who dislike the Chinese regime and use their political power to make Canada as anti-China as possible. This is of course all legal in a multiethnic country such as Canada and not considered as foreign interference. Furthermore, it seems to have the internal support of non-ethnic “conservatives”, but the motivation for their interest in this kind of issue is not at all clear apart from the obvious fact that they want to beat their liberal rivals in the elections.
    Democracy at work.

  111. @anonymouseperson
    @Dream

    Sweden was the perfect country and they had to FU** it up with nonwhites.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Corvinus

    Sweden was the perfect country and they had to FU** it up with nonwhites.

    Agree.

    It’s absolutely amazing what they had there. Traditionally, and till hundred years ago it was often generally poorer than the West, because of overhead of life at high latitude and the lack of scale.

    But you go there–even today–and realize how utterly awesome it would have been just a few decades back. Basically the Pacific Northwest … without the “diversity”. A huge place with a limited but competent, well-behaved population so anyone with their act together could enjoy a home, a vacation cottage on a lake, a hunting cabin. The virtues of not being overcrowded are many.

    But they all learned English and kept hearing that “multiculturalism” and “diversity” are good, and “racism” and “xenophobia” are bad, bad, bad–Nazi stuff.

    And now they either have to turn Nazi and get Nasty–fast–or they are dead.

    • Replies: @houston 1992
    @AnotherDad

    Social capital, cooperativeness and being Nordic

    Sept 3 1967 Sweden switched the side of the road that they drive on to make themselves compatible with their neighbors
    They could not pull off such a switch today. (Iceland followed in 1968 with its switch.)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagen_H

    , @anonymous
    @AnotherDad

    Philsophers and actvists like Babara Lerner Specter helped guide Sweden and teach the population about multiculturalism.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G45WthPTo24&ab_channel=Ivn1977

    , @Gross Terry
    @AnotherDad

    Ah yes, the much vaunted diversity of the pacific northwest. Its white hobos that are making Portland/Seattle unlivable, not Blacks. Sweden has been a high performing country for a long time, but its a miserable country full of backbiting Swedes.

  112. Oy vey, where is the world’s smallest violin?

    Alternatively, influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up the society where we most thrived?”

    LOL. Steve is really clueless…

    Most Jews (and specially the powerful ones) are basically incapable of that kind of self-criticism or even self-awareness. Yeah, I’m waiting too, but…


    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Dumbo

    I hope you realize that Silverman is a comedienne and that her "quote" about killing Christ was a joke.

    Anyway, I don't know what you goyim are pissed about. As I understand it, the whole basis of the religion is that Christ died for your sins. If Jesus lives to a ripe old age (40?) and dies of natural causes then there goes your whole religion.

    Replies: @Dumbo, @Hibernian

  113. There was comment posted elsewhere about the Tablet that if it wasn’t written by Jews, it would be a labeled an anti-semetic website.

  114. Once a protector of specifically Jewish interests but now secure in its new role as handmaiden to power, the Anti-Defamation League filed an amicus brief—in support of Harvard.

    So he thinks that if Harvard accepted more Asians it would also accept more Jews? He’s delusional. More Asians means fewer Jews, the ADL understands that. The day may come when the Ivy league is 5% black but not soon.

  115. Museum boards now diversify by getting Jews to resign. A well-respected Jewish curator at the Guggenheim is purged after she puts on a Basquiat show. At the Art Institute of Chicago, even the nice Jewish lady volunteers are terminated for having the wrong ethnic background….

    The chosenites made their bed, let them now lie in it.

  116. The general topic of Jewish success disproportionate to their numbers is common in publications for Jewish audiences like The Tablet, but not in sites aimed at a general audience like the New York Times.

    Steve, your dry humor never fails.

  117. @AnotherDad
    @anonymouseperson


    Sweden was the perfect country and they had to FU** it up with nonwhites.
     
    Agree.

    It's absolutely amazing what they had there. Traditionally, and till hundred years ago it was often generally poorer than the West, because of overhead of life at high latitude and the lack of scale.

    But you go there--even today--and realize how utterly awesome it would have been just a few decades back. Basically the Pacific Northwest ... without the "diversity". A huge place with a limited but competent, well-behaved population so anyone with their act together could enjoy a home, a vacation cottage on a lake, a hunting cabin. The virtues of not being overcrowded are many.

    But they all learned English and kept hearing that "multiculturalism" and "diversity" are good, and "racism" and "xenophobia" are bad, bad, bad--Nazi stuff.

    And now they either have to turn Nazi and get Nasty--fast--or they are dead.

    Replies: @houston 1992, @anonymous, @Gross Terry

    Social capital, cooperativeness and being Nordic

    Sept 3 1967 Sweden switched the side of the road that they drive on to make themselves compatible with their neighbors
    They could not pull off such a switch today. (Iceland followed in 1968 with its switch.)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagen_H

  118. It won’t necessarily make me popular here, but this seems like a major loss for America. I mean, if you’re going to have a left wing elite (which if you think about it is almost every institution the author cites — the Ivy League, Guggenheim Fellows, Hollywood, museum boards, ACLU, etc.), it’s a lot better if they’re funny, smart and interesting.

  119. OT

    QUESTION: What’s the most important liberal propaganda success that no one discusses, including our boy iSteve?

    Answer: In rationalizing why big cities are now ungovernable, the liberal media have succeeded in persuading the American people–left, right, and libertarian–that the essential problem is “crime” per se and not “a sizable black population” per se. Check out The Atlanic story below; it’s a perfect example of this phenomenon.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/big-cities-are-ungovernable/ar-AA189DYR

  120. @Anonymous
    @Dream

    School in Sweden:
    https://barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/unnamed-2.jpg

    School in Russia:
    https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/pupils-school-desk-lesson-school-russia-moscow-first-high-school-first-class-b-september-schoolchildren-sit-77064862.jpg

    Sweden is joining NATO pretty soon. Because the greatest threat to Sweden is a white Christian people who excel at mathematics, build rockets and send men into space, compose classical music, write great literature,…

    Oh, yeah, that’s right, Putler and the Russkies doesn’t allow gay marriage, gay adoption, or child transgenderism so we need NATO to liberate them! 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️

    Replies: @Jack D, @AnotherDad, @Prester John, @Simon in London, @Shitposter_in Chief

    Sweden and Finland are joining NATO because of what Russia is doing. Putin is NOT coming to save the white race.

    NATO is not going to invade Russia, until 18 months ago NATO was almost irrelevant. Nobody has done anything more to strengthen NATO in the past half century than Putin

  121. @Ron Unz
    @Chebyshev


    This would mean that less than 1/3 of the white students at Harvard and Yale are Jewish. They must be underreporting their numbers of Jewish students because they have been the schools most in the crosshairs of Ron’s Meritocracy articles. At Cornell, according to Hillel, more than half the white students are Jewish.
     
    Someone pointed me to this post, which I otherwise would have missed.

    I'd actually written about these issues last year, and I think the Hillel figures are extremely misleading, probably deliberately so.

    Back in 2012, I'd published my original Meritocracy analysis and obviously provoked a great deal of controversy given the total mismatch between Jewish performance and elite Jewish enrollment. Then, in 2016 the controversy resurfaced when I organized a slate of candidates to run for the Harvard Board of Overseers, probably raising concerns that the issue would remain around and eventually grow.

    The following year, the Jewish enrollment figures published by Hillel plummeted across all colleges, especially the most elite ones, thereby greatly reducing the suspicious "mismatch." As far as I can tell, Hillel did this by restricting their definition to students who are religiously Jewish. Given that Jews have traditionally been one of the most secular ethnic groups in America, this obviously eliminates the majority of Jewish students in the ethnic or ancestral sense, representing an blatant example of crypsis.

    As an example of this, Hillel claims that there is not a single "Jewish" student at Caltech, yet Caltech actually has quite a number of Jewish students:

    https://www.hillel.org/college/california-institute-of-technology/

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/hillel.caltech/

    Here's the link to my article and you can decide for yourselves whether my analysis is correct:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/challenging-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/

    If my interpretation is roughly correct, there's an absolutely shocking implication. According to my estimate, white Gentiles may have dropped to only about 10% of the students at Harvard and not much more at the other most elite colleges. By contrast, white Gentiles are roughly 60% of the entire American population and 60-70% of America's highest-performing high school students.

    Replies: @anita patel, @TWS, @Chebyshev, @JimDandy, @Prester John, @Fenster, @Return of Shawn, @That Would Be Telling

    The very fact that colleges are loath to track the number and that we must rely on Hillel estimates says something in itself. Did Hillel pad upwards in the past for the Jewish press and parents? Is it now underestimating once the issue is more public? Dunno but the JPost relied on Hillel in 2015 to estimate over 25% Jews in elite undergraduate enrollments. We are now to believe that that figure is 7%, and that the ADL was sleeping at the switch?

    I expect Jewish enrollment has gone down in part due to the achievement drop-off you have written about and in part because Jews have been caught up in the anti-white machinery. Asians go up; blacks and hispanics cannot go down. Something has to give and there has been no room to cut gentile whites further after legacies and athletic scholarships. But 7%? No way.

    The data which the author uses to make his compelling new story comes from the FIRE free speech survey. That was a free speech analysis not one of religion. Religion entered in only in terms of a simple self-description by respondents. That is a thin reed on which to rest a firm conclusion about that level of decline. FIRE even mentions the problem with self-identification. Plus, a full 38% of respondents listed no religious affiliation. I expect some Jews checked that box.

  122. anonymous[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    @anonymouseperson


    Sweden was the perfect country and they had to FU** it up with nonwhites.
     
    Agree.

    It's absolutely amazing what they had there. Traditionally, and till hundred years ago it was often generally poorer than the West, because of overhead of life at high latitude and the lack of scale.

    But you go there--even today--and realize how utterly awesome it would have been just a few decades back. Basically the Pacific Northwest ... without the "diversity". A huge place with a limited but competent, well-behaved population so anyone with their act together could enjoy a home, a vacation cottage on a lake, a hunting cabin. The virtues of not being overcrowded are many.

    But they all learned English and kept hearing that "multiculturalism" and "diversity" are good, and "racism" and "xenophobia" are bad, bad, bad--Nazi stuff.

    And now they either have to turn Nazi and get Nasty--fast--or they are dead.

    Replies: @houston 1992, @anonymous, @Gross Terry

    Philsophers and actvists like Babara Lerner Specter helped guide Sweden and teach the population about multiculturalism.

  123. @Post-Postmodernist
    @ScarletNumber



    our influence is in steep decline
     
    Anyone who lives in Northern New Jersey would be happy to refute this.
     
    Very different Jews. To the secular Tablet, Orthodox Jews of the type you were presumably alluding-to are barely considered "our".

    It might be noted, additionally, concerning the latter, that as formidable a political influence as they may yield, it is at the local level, within the enclaves where they are concentrated. The concerns and challenges involved, however vexing they may be in their own right, are wildly and fundamentally different than those that involve secular Jewish as well as Zionist influence*.

    (*Overlapping yet distinct categories)

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @ginger bread man

    I would disagree for a few reasons with several things shared here.

    1. Out of all the quasi-academic culturally Jewish publications, Tablet has the least animosity toward the Hasidim. Their podcast Unorthodox had an episode called “The one with the Mitzvah Tanks” where the editors shadow Hasidic Jews for a day asking other Jews to put on Tefillin and light candles. They’re also much more right wing on social issues and their orientation toward Israel.

    2. The Jews on the Jersey side of hudson are largely Modern Orthodox, meaning they wear polo shirts and yarmulkes as opposed to the black and white garb of the Hasids in Brooklyn. Ben Shapiro and Jared Kushner fall into this category. They are much more likely to be have a college and advanced degrees, and are very much the types of Jews that Tablet would consider to be “one of them”.

    So although Tablet is not explicitly orthodox, they tend to have a much greater sympathy for the Orthodox (including the black hatters) than the Forward, the JTA, Commentary or any other Jewish ersatz-intellectual publication who report on Hasidim from a comfortable arms length.

  124. @AnotherDad
    @anonymouseperson


    Sweden was the perfect country and they had to FU** it up with nonwhites.
     
    Agree.

    It's absolutely amazing what they had there. Traditionally, and till hundred years ago it was often generally poorer than the West, because of overhead of life at high latitude and the lack of scale.

    But you go there--even today--and realize how utterly awesome it would have been just a few decades back. Basically the Pacific Northwest ... without the "diversity". A huge place with a limited but competent, well-behaved population so anyone with their act together could enjoy a home, a vacation cottage on a lake, a hunting cabin. The virtues of not being overcrowded are many.

    But they all learned English and kept hearing that "multiculturalism" and "diversity" are good, and "racism" and "xenophobia" are bad, bad, bad--Nazi stuff.

    And now they either have to turn Nazi and get Nasty--fast--or they are dead.

    Replies: @houston 1992, @anonymous, @Gross Terry

    Ah yes, the much vaunted diversity of the pacific northwest. Its white hobos that are making Portland/Seattle unlivable, not Blacks. Sweden has been a high performing country for a long time, but its a miserable country full of backbiting Swedes.

  125. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    https://geology.com/world/world-map.gif

    This is a ridiculous take. Have you ever seen a map of the world? You can barely even find Israel. It's a tiny dot on the map. You need a magnifying glass to see it. It's so small that they can't write "Israel" on top of Israel - they have to write it on top of Egypt. Jews have one little tiny place to call their own, but apparently this is one too many for some.

    Go to Russia, man. There's your whitopia according to Unzites at least. That's 1/2 the planet right there (at least on the Mercator projection).

    Replies: @San Fernando Curt, @Franz

    Go to Russia, man.

    Russia is no longer the place Lee Harvey Oswald went running to.

    They fell into the same trap as every other European country which pretty much negates their status as being a “different civilization.”

    At the current rate we shall all be the same NON-civilization, badly run zoos of flotsam and bad genes from every point of the compass and serving no one but the Lord of the Flies that Jews and Christians insist on calling “god”.

  126. Now where have I heard that sort of bollocks before? Ah, yes…

    “Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat.”

    ― Hillary Rodham Clinton

  127. @Gross Terry
    Its funny how "Maybe Jews have gotten considerably dumber?" is not even considered as a possibility. Hell, maybe its due to miscegenation with the Irish if the sheenies want to have some sort of dignity protecting crouch about it!

    Replies: @ginger bread man, @Ferrari

    Possible. There may be some reversion to the mean with intermarriage and non-intelligent non Jewish spouse.

    On the other hand, a few years ago I saw a stat that the religious group with the highest SAT scores was Unitarians, followed by Hindus, then Jews. Unitarians have a high percentage of intermarried Jews who didn’t care about their Judaism, but could only tolerate Christianity Lite.

    • Replies: @choxopox
    @ginger bread man

    A White Unitarian once told me about the problem of Jewnitarians.

    -Discard

    , @Gross Terry
    @ginger bread man

    Unitarianism is just a highly self-selected group of philosophically minded people. The idea that crypto-mischlings are juicing its numbers is much less likely than the fact a Unitarian has to be unsatisfied not only with plain "nothing in particular", but find even "atheism" too galling for his particular interests, means its going to select for particular and discerning people. Unitarianism is just as much Islam-Lite as Christianity-lite.

  128. @Dream
    https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1631450082229796865?t=Y5xA37iJDotxkWC4mEH8Tg&s=19

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Richard B, @anonymouseperson, @ATBOTL

    White on white crime, according to some.

  129. @San Fernando Curt
    @Jack D


    Jews have one little tiny place to call their own, but apparently this is one too many for some.
     
    Name other groups who have such a "homeland" - secured by law, not anecdote.

    Replies: @Jack D

    In 30 countries, heads of state must belong to a certain religion, mostly Muslim:

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/22/in-30-countries-heads-of-state-must-belong-to-a-certain-religion/

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
  130. @Simon in London
    @Anonymous

    "the greatest threat to Sweden is a white Christian people who excel at mathematics, build rockets and send men into space, compose classical music, write great literature"

    These are indeed the countries with enough Asabiya to threaten their neighbours.

    Replies: @Jack D

    You couldn’t fill a thimble with the amount of Asabiyyah that exists in Russia. The place is every man for himself.

    I think the word you are looking for is dezinformatsiya. Ukraine is not threatened by Pushkin or Tchaikovsky. Rockets yes. The reason that the Soviets were interested in rocketry was because they were weapons. The USSR was backwards EXCEPT for things that had a military application. Their whole economy was geared toward “military first”. To some extent, Putin benefitted from the (seemingly) endless amount of artillery shells and tanks, etc. that the USSR built but after a year of war they have burned a lot of that stuff up and modern Russia doesn’t have that kind of manufacturing ability anymore.

    By the way, what do you think a kindergarten in Ukraine looks like? Aren’t they white Christian people too? Putin’s rockets are not killing all those terrible brown trannies in Sweden – they are killing white Christians. And getting a lot of Russian white Christian soldiers killed too. Why don’t those white Christians count?

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Simon in London
    @Jack D

    I'm against the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

    Replies: @neutral

  131. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    Russia is not the Whitopia of your dreams.


    Now, up to 20 percent of the population [of Moscow] may be Muslim,” he said. Demographers estimate Russia’s Islamic community may account for a majority of the nation’s population by mid-century.
     
    https://www.baptistpress.com/resource-library/news/muslim-population-in-russia-grows-quickly/

    Moscow at Friday prayers:

    https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.18172-8/13528508_10154354489789060_8835416173784078921_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=3z946ZIhggEAX9QqS7x&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfDnY-kD7gNL4a6nBUIPwLxo-Jt8CNs3O8mhjRZzvfgQ8g&oe=6429734B

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Steve Sailer, @stari_momak

    This is not real. Muslims, as always, trump up their figures without real empirical basis. I’ve seen this in all of Europe & sometimes elsewhere: https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/moscow-population

    Muslims always complain that others (whites, Asians, Indians,…) dehumanize them, while they themselves boast with their fertility as their only modern “achievement” – which is a form of dehumanization.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Bardon Kaldian

    That wasn't a Muslim source - it was a Christian one.

    I agree that the #'s may be somewhat exaggerated but there is a significant # of Muslims in Russia and their #'s are growing due to higher fertility. And not just Muslims. A lot of the "Russians" turning up dead in Ukraine are Buryats, Tuvans, etc. Whatever they are, they ain't all white Christians.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  132. @Post-Postmodernist
    @anonymous


    Because of their safety concerns, Jews will not turn back on the plan to get America down to 40% white by 2050
     
    Such a "plan",
    __was never signed on to or even merely known to either myself or any of the Jews I associate with
    __would not align but rather conflict with any of our safety concerns

    "Jews" is a very broad label that encompasses many different subsets with very different values, goals and priorities. No one can legitimately speak for all Jews.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @houston 1992, @James N. Kennett, @anonymouseperson, @anonymous, @Mike Tre

    ““Jews” is a very broad label that encompasses many different subsets”

    So is the term “whites”, but it doesn’t stop the “jews” as hating or labeling them all as rednecks, racists, or nazis.

  133. @Steve Sailer
    @Fluesterwitz

    But, so far, intra-Jewish discussions about how actually, we aren't white haven't managed to persuade DIE bean-counters in the slightest. It could happen in the future, such as with the Biden Administration's MENA plan, but so far it hasn't.

    Replies: @Shamu, @PeC, @Corvinus

    ** “The general topic of Jewish success disproportionate to their numbers”

    So what ought to be the “right” number of Jews? Perhaps they’ve earned it, and there is a certain level of jealousy due to that success?

    Furthermore, why not make a comparative analysis for Jews and EACH European ethnic group when it comes to their success in the business, legal, entertainment, and/or athletic fields? Why it is always a comparison between Jews and Gentiles?

    Asking for a (white) friend…

    **Do normies or Generation Z even care? Should they?

    • Replies: @EddieSpaghetti
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus asked:


    "So what ought to be the “right” number of Jews?"

     

    I do not know what the right number of Jewish students at Harvard should be. However, I do know, from the work of Ron Unz, that a very high achieving Jewish high school student is about 15 times more likely to be accepted to attend Harvard than a similarly very high achieving non-Jewish white high school student. As such, I do know that the "right" number of non-Jewish white students at Harvard is much higher than the number of non-Jewish white students currently attending.

    By the way Corvinus, as someone with journalistic pretensions, do you find it strange that after Colin Kaepernick took a knee WHILE ON THE JOB, his action was defended by many as an exercise in free speech, yet, after Kyrie Irving, ON HIS OWN FREE TIME, did nothing more than recommend a movie that many Jews do not like, he was suspended, forced to repent and required to donate $500,000 to the ADL?

    Replies: @Corvinus

  134. @anonymouseperson
    @Dream

    Sweden was the perfect country and they had to FU** it up with nonwhites.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Corvinus

    “Sweden was the perfect country and they had to FU** it up with nonwhites.“

    That’s absolutely batshit insane for you to say.

    But if you want to play that stupid game, the U.S. was the perfect country until Eastern and Southern Europeans showed up on our shores.

    You have to go back.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
    @Corvinus

    Crowman


    “Sweden was the perfect country and they had to FU** it up with nonwhites.“
    That’s absolutely batshit insane for you to say.

     
    But not batshite insane for the Prime Minister of Sweden to say.
    https://hungary.postsen.com/world/50207/Swedish-Prime-Minister-We-do-not-want-Somali-cities-in-Sweden.html

    The Swedish prime minister would abolish the ethnic ghettos in the big cities, which are hotbeds of organized crime.

    When even the limp biscuit left-liberal Swedish Prime Minister has to admit this, the evidence is overwhelming. It is extremely evident in the figures for rape and sex assault.
    https://unherd.com/2021/04/swedens-migrant-rape-crisis/

    The researchers found that, within that time-frame, a total of 3,039 offenders were convicted of rape+ against a woman in Sweden — nearly all of whom (99.7%) were men. According to the researchers, Swedish-born offenders with Swedish-born parents accounted for 40.8% of the offenders. But, strikingly, almost half of the offenders were born outside of Sweden (47.7%). Of those foreign-born offenders, 34.5% were from the Middle East/North Africa, with 19.1% hailing from the rest of Africa. As a percentage of all convicted perpetrators, therefore, 16.4% were foreign-born individuals from the Middle East/North Africa, and 9.1% were foreign-born individuals from Africa (excluding North Africa).

    Crowman

    But if you want to play that stupid game, the U.S. was the perfect country until Eastern and Southern Europeans showed up on our shores.
     
    You dishonestly compare Somalis ( average IQ 68 ), a country of violent retards, with Italians, Poles and Hungarians. Southern and Eastern Europeans have nearly all assimilated into American society and many have made outstanding contributions to it. Somalis and their like are nearly all unassimilable retards with nothing to contribute to American society but violence.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @That Would Be Telling

  135. @Curle
    “To be precise, Jewish representation is not much talked about.”

    Or allowed to be talked about if the subject is the finance industry, financial gangsterism, spying, money laundering, media ownership, the porn industry, starting wars to protect internationalist gangster networks, payments to Congress, destruction of Civil War statues, and promoting hatred of white gentiles and the South in general.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    You are overgeneralizing of course.

    But why must normies care? It’s YOUR obsession. Exactly like black women and their hair.

    So what do you think should be the appropriate number for Jews in the banking, legal, and entertainment industries?

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Corvinus

    “So what do you think should be the appropriate number for Jews in the banking, legal, and entertainment industries?”

    Whatever number is small enough to render insignificant any hostility to the rest of us that would be amplified by their numbers. As a general rule I don’t think nations should have unassimilated minorities in significant numbers. All groups should have their own country where they dominate and control. Rootless and nomadic cosmopolitans should become agrarians.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @ATBOTL
    @Corvinus


    So what do you think should be the appropriate number for Jews in the banking, legal, and entertainment industries?
     
    The same number as white Europeans have these positions in Israel.

    BTW, why are all my comments pointing out the fact that Europeans are a different race from MENA people getting censored? Why is this such a big taboo around here? Do you people really think you can force young racially conscious whites to think arabs and jews are "fellow whites?" Pro-tip -- you have already lost the debate.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  136. Replace the word “Jewish” with the word “white” and our modern media might find this piece to be equivalent to an article from ‘Stormfront.’

    I wonder if the writer or any of his readers are familiar with the word ‘irony…’

    • Agree: bomag
  137. @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous


    Oh, yeah, that’s right, Putler and the Russkies doesn’t allow gay marriage, gay adoption, or child transgenderism so we need NATO to liberate them! 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️
     
    That's a--one particular--school in Sweden, and a--one particular--school in Russia.

    Sweden is indeed a good white disaster. A quarter of the people now aren't Swedish or even part Swedish. Though a good chunk of those are "close enough", it has definitely destroyed itself by importing vibrants. Sweden probably needs some sort of nationalist coup/separation now to save it, or even a piece of it.

    But actual Russia is less and less Russian as well. It is more and more full of Muslims--including lots of illegals in from the 'stans--who actually breed, while white/Russian fertility remains in the dumper. By the end of the century, it could well be a big sprawling--majority muslim!--pig pile.

    Putin could have--should have--focused on making sure Russian schools that looked like that, kept looking that. But your imagined whitopia does not interest Putin. He's a guy who fought bloody war--leveled Grozny--to keep the Chechens in Russia. How f'ing stupid is that? And now Putin--not NATO--launched a sleazy 1914 style imperialist war, that is slaughtering thousands of Russia's and Ukraine's young men. Brilliant!

    You guys can keep blathering on idiotically with your Putin fantasies, but he is what he is--a Czar wannabe, a 19th century style Russian imperialist, completely consumed with being a "big man" expanding the scope and power of the Russian Empire and utterly unconcerned with making Russia a great nation for Russians to live in.

    Calling a pig "George Washington" doesn't actually change the character of the pig. It's still goes "oink".

    Replies: @Prester John, @Johann Ricke, @CalCooledge, @stari_momak

    But actual Russia is less and less Russian as well. It is more and more full of Muslims–including lots of illegals in from the ‘stans–who actually breed, while white/Russian fertility remains in the dumper. By the end of the century, it could well be a big sprawling–majority muslim!–pig pile.

    Putin could have–should have–focused on making sure Russian schools that looked like that, kept looking that. But your imagined whitopia does not interest Putin. He’s a guy who fought bloody war–leveled Grozny–to keep the Chechens in Russia. How f’ing stupid is that? And now Putin–not NATO–launched a sleazy 1914 style imperialist war, that is slaughtering thousands of Russia’s and Ukraine’s young men. Brilliant!

    Many on the alt-right have these racial fantasies about empire-builders that don’t really hold up when you look at the history books. Hitler was probably the only somewhat successful conqueror* who wanted to kill every single member of any out-group that struck his fancy.

    Most conquerors want to rule the world, not empty it of the groups they hate. The Persians had fought the Greeks for centuries before Alexander set out to conquer the world. When he conquered Persia, he married into the Persian nobility and employed large numbers of Persians in his armies, to the extent he almost caused a mutiny.

    Fact is – conquerors are into self-aggrandizement, not the advancement of any particular tribe, even their own. When the Mongols conquered vast Muslim lands, they converted in order to ease the process of integrating their new subjects into their armies. In time, they would wage jihad against their heathen (shamanistic/Buddhist) co-ethnic Mongols in order to expand their own domains. Note that the self-interest at issue here was always personal, not tribal in some overarching sense.

    If Putin felt that converting to Islam would spur his troops to greater effort and/or help win his wars for fame and glory, he would. To paraphrase the Huguenot aristocrat Henry IV of Navarre’s laconic statement many centuries ago, “DC is worth a shahada”. While the catechisms and liturgies might differ, one notional deity is much like another.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahada

    * Hitler’s initial successes were due to the fact that he rose to the top of an industrial economy second only to the US, not some preternatural skill in the military arts. If Hitler had become the Fuhrer of Czechoslovakia, he’d likely have been squashed like a bug. His main achievement was political – his rise from humble roots to leader of a major power in Europe.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Johann Ricke

    “who wanted to kill every single member of any out-group that struck his fancy.”

    What do conquerors typically do with enemy populations still under their control while preparing to retreat from that very enemy? Create a bigger army on your rear? Isn’t this the matter discussed, and not resolved, in the ‘80s? That Hitler began killing the captives once the war in the East was lost.

    What did Sherman’s army do to enemy civilians left in his rear?

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

  138. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D

    This is not real. Muslims, as always, trump up their figures without real empirical basis. I've seen this in all of Europe & sometimes elsewhere: https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/moscow-population

    Muslims always complain that others (whites, Asians, Indians,...) dehumanize them, while they themselves boast with their fertility as their only modern "achievement" - which is a form of dehumanization.

    Replies: @Jack D

    That wasn’t a Muslim source – it was a Christian one.

    I agree that the #’s may be somewhat exaggerated but there is a significant # of Muslims in Russia and their #’s are growing due to higher fertility. And not just Muslims. A lot of the “Russians” turning up dead in Ukraine are Buryats, Tuvans, etc. Whatever they are, they ain’t all white Christians.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D

    Sure, but you can't trust evangelical Protestant publications either. Both their and Muslim sources are generally unreliable.

    It is true that parts of Muslims in Russia have a higher fertility rate, but that's just for the time being. They have a higher rate until their women achieve some degree of independence, and then it all collapses, just like in Iran.

  139. @Jack D
    @Bardon Kaldian

    That wasn't a Muslim source - it was a Christian one.

    I agree that the #'s may be somewhat exaggerated but there is a significant # of Muslims in Russia and their #'s are growing due to higher fertility. And not just Muslims. A lot of the "Russians" turning up dead in Ukraine are Buryats, Tuvans, etc. Whatever they are, they ain't all white Christians.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Sure, but you can’t trust evangelical Protestant publications either. Both their and Muslim sources are generally unreliable.

    It is true that parts of Muslims in Russia have a higher fertility rate, but that’s just for the time being. They have a higher rate until their women achieve some degree of independence, and then it all collapses, just like in Iran.

  140. @Dumbo
    Oy vey, where is the world's smallest violin?

    Alternatively, influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up the society where we most thrived?”
     
    LOL. Steve is really clueless...

    Most Jews (and specially the powerful ones) are basically incapable of that kind of self-criticism or even self-awareness. Yeah, I'm waiting too, but...

    https://twitter.com/SarahKSilverman/status/1579179927848759298

    https://media.snopes.com/2016/08/sarah-silverman-jews-jesus.jpg

    Replies: @Jack D

    I hope you realize that Silverman is a comedienne and that her “quote” about killing Christ was a joke.

    Anyway, I don’t know what you goyim are pissed about. As I understand it, the whole basis of the religion is that Christ died for your sins. If Jesus lives to a ripe old age (40?) and dies of natural causes then there goes your whole religion.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    @Jack D

    Hmmm... You're kinda proving my point, aren't you? Someone says Jews should be more self-critical, and Jewish person replies attacking "goyim" and the Christian religion. LOL.

    Sure, it was a "joke". A very funny one. I mean, Silverman is such a talented comedian, isn't she. I can't stop laughing when I see her...

    Anyway, I have little against Jews per se. I have many Jewish acquaintances. I just wish those influential Jews that Steve keeps talking about (I know no one personally in that category) would stop promoting non-white immigration, gay and transgender stuff, wars, etc.

    Just look at the war in Ukraine. From Nuland to Blinken to Zelensky to you, it's almost all Jews. Sure, maybe they think they are on the "right side of history" or whatever, but it is curious, isn't it? Why so many Jews involved in that stuff? The same in gay rights, the same in non-white immigration. Why is that? Someone less instructed might suspect some kind of conspiracy... (Ok, there is one Jewish woman who writes against transgender stuff, and people like Hersh have spoken against the war, so there's that. See, I'm not saying "all Jews". But more than average...)

    , @Hibernian
    @Jack D

    A thought experiment: Substitute Mohammed for Jesus. She'd go into protective custody real quick.

  141. @James N. Kennett
    @anonymous


    “We’ve wondered. Anyone who’s paying attention has had to have wondered that. Well, this week, Congressman Jamie Raskin of Maryland, of Bethesda, answered that question. Russia is an orthodox Christian country with traditional social values and for that reason, it must be destroyed, no matter what the cost to us. This is not a conventional war. This is a jihad. Jamie Raskin said that out loud, but many in Washington agree with him in both parties. They would like to see World War Trans immediately….”
     
    There is no source for the Raskin quote. It is possible that he said it privately and Carlson's writers found out. More likely they paraphrased it from Raskin's actual statements with a large dose of poetic license.

    Raskin's published views are "interesting":

    Moscow right now is a hub of corrupt tyranny, censorship, authoritarian repression, police violence, propaganda, government lies and disinformation, and planning for war crimes. It is a world center of antifeminist, antigay, anti-trans hatred, as well as the homeland of replacement theory for export. In supporting Ukraine, we are opposing these fascist views, and supporting the urgent principles of democratic pluralism. Ukraine is not perfect, of course, but its society is organized on the radically different principles of democracy and freedom, which is why Russia's oligarchical leaders seek to destroy it forever.
     
    https://raskin.house.gov/press-releases?ID=C6AAEAAD-548C-444A-85AB-A77AB7FFAAE6

    Not only is the notion that we are fighting the Russians on behalf of feminists, gays and transsexuals not right; as physicists say, it is not even wrong. It is a lie so contemptible that it places Raskin in a lower circle of hell than even Tucker Carlson's scriptwriters.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Nicholas Stix

    in a lower circle of hell than even Tucker Carlson’s scriptwriters.

    And that’s not a good one, note how they beclowned themselves and Carlson in this monologue just after the infamous quote.

    They confused the inventory buffer we had of Diesel fuel with the total we’ll ever produce or import, and of course the nation didn’t run out because the Greens haven’t quite yet managed to shut down enough of our refineries etc. to bring us to that catastrophic, end of civilization point.

    OK, I don’t watch Carlson or any video talking head for that matter, don’t like the medium, but while he’s apparently saying a lot of good things, I have to wonder who’s still listening to him and why.

  142. @Ron Unz
    @Chebyshev


    This would mean that less than 1/3 of the white students at Harvard and Yale are Jewish. They must be underreporting their numbers of Jewish students because they have been the schools most in the crosshairs of Ron’s Meritocracy articles. At Cornell, according to Hillel, more than half the white students are Jewish.
     
    Someone pointed me to this post, which I otherwise would have missed.

    I'd actually written about these issues last year, and I think the Hillel figures are extremely misleading, probably deliberately so.

    Back in 2012, I'd published my original Meritocracy analysis and obviously provoked a great deal of controversy given the total mismatch between Jewish performance and elite Jewish enrollment. Then, in 2016 the controversy resurfaced when I organized a slate of candidates to run for the Harvard Board of Overseers, probably raising concerns that the issue would remain around and eventually grow.

    The following year, the Jewish enrollment figures published by Hillel plummeted across all colleges, especially the most elite ones, thereby greatly reducing the suspicious "mismatch." As far as I can tell, Hillel did this by restricting their definition to students who are religiously Jewish. Given that Jews have traditionally been one of the most secular ethnic groups in America, this obviously eliminates the majority of Jewish students in the ethnic or ancestral sense, representing an blatant example of crypsis.

    As an example of this, Hillel claims that there is not a single "Jewish" student at Caltech, yet Caltech actually has quite a number of Jewish students:

    https://www.hillel.org/college/california-institute-of-technology/

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/hillel.caltech/

    Here's the link to my article and you can decide for yourselves whether my analysis is correct:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/challenging-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/

    If my interpretation is roughly correct, there's an absolutely shocking implication. According to my estimate, white Gentiles may have dropped to only about 10% of the students at Harvard and not much more at the other most elite colleges. By contrast, white Gentiles are roughly 60% of the entire American population and 60-70% of America's highest-performing high school students.

    Replies: @anita patel, @TWS, @Chebyshev, @JimDandy, @Prester John, @Fenster, @Return of Shawn, @That Would Be Telling

    Shouldn’t the efficient market hypothesis apply here or are employers that dumb? Once the hiring quota has been met for Blacks and Hispanics, smart companies should value black Harvard grads about as much as they’d value a White college grad from a directional university, less they want to leave money on the table (excluding taking into account a desire to replace existing Black employees with Harvard educated ones).

  143. @LP5
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve writes:


    My vague impression is that dentists underwent a downturn a generation ago due to fluoride in water and toothpaste, but then they made a comeback via more cosmetic / comfort stuff like mouthguards.
     
    Dentists became mechanics and then underwent some crash courses in personality and marketing, a new chair-side manner. They realized that demographics would extend their careers and pay country club dues. There are all those boomers with amalgam fillings that need, no, demand replacing due to, uh, factors. Combine that with vanity to get veneers and whitening treatments, and with aging to start on root canals and other annuities.

    Now comes a new crop of orthodontist patients streaming across the border. Launch a program to raise taxes and dispense grants to pay for bracero braces or whatever DEI allows. There might yet be mileage along the American Way, or some hyphenated version.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    There are all those boomers with amalgam fillings that need, no, demand replacing due to, uh, factors.

    Well, mercury metal is bad when it’s in your mouth (very possibly true), good when it’s in your light bulbs and on your floors when they get broken (not sure about that), and bad when part of some compound no doubt as it exits coal fired boiler smoke stacks (questionable given the amounts, but the excuse for the most recent big wave to shut them down, including the ones powering D.C…).

  144. @Anonymous
    Secular Ashkenazi Jewish Americans today for the most part tend to be from well off family backgrounds. In my experience, the more ambitious types go into high finance, venture capital, or the business development side of big tech. Others are able to pursue less remunerative media and entertainment careers through support from their family. Some have trust funds and dabble in non-traditional careers or lead hipster lifestyles. They no longer have to pursue more mundane careers like their poorer antecedents did out of poverty or social restrictions.

    Jordan Belfort dropped out of dental school 40 years ago when he realized he wouldn't get very rich from dentistry:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Belfort#Early_life

    Belfort planned on using the money earned with Loewenstern to pay for dental school,[14] and he enrolled at the University of Maryland School of Dentistry. He left after the dean of the school said to him on his first day: "The golden age of dentistry is over. If you're here simply because you're looking to make a lot of money, you're in the wrong place.
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @J.Ross, @Return of Shawn

    In dentistry type fields, to make the big bucks you have to be a doctor of dental surgery or an orthodontist. But you still have to like working with spit.

  145. @Ron Unz
    @Chebyshev


    This would mean that less than 1/3 of the white students at Harvard and Yale are Jewish. They must be underreporting their numbers of Jewish students because they have been the schools most in the crosshairs of Ron’s Meritocracy articles. At Cornell, according to Hillel, more than half the white students are Jewish.
     
    Someone pointed me to this post, which I otherwise would have missed.

    I'd actually written about these issues last year, and I think the Hillel figures are extremely misleading, probably deliberately so.

    Back in 2012, I'd published my original Meritocracy analysis and obviously provoked a great deal of controversy given the total mismatch between Jewish performance and elite Jewish enrollment. Then, in 2016 the controversy resurfaced when I organized a slate of candidates to run for the Harvard Board of Overseers, probably raising concerns that the issue would remain around and eventually grow.

    The following year, the Jewish enrollment figures published by Hillel plummeted across all colleges, especially the most elite ones, thereby greatly reducing the suspicious "mismatch." As far as I can tell, Hillel did this by restricting their definition to students who are religiously Jewish. Given that Jews have traditionally been one of the most secular ethnic groups in America, this obviously eliminates the majority of Jewish students in the ethnic or ancestral sense, representing an blatant example of crypsis.

    As an example of this, Hillel claims that there is not a single "Jewish" student at Caltech, yet Caltech actually has quite a number of Jewish students:

    https://www.hillel.org/college/california-institute-of-technology/

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/hillel.caltech/

    Here's the link to my article and you can decide for yourselves whether my analysis is correct:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/challenging-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/

    If my interpretation is roughly correct, there's an absolutely shocking implication. According to my estimate, white Gentiles may have dropped to only about 10% of the students at Harvard and not much more at the other most elite colleges. By contrast, white Gentiles are roughly 60% of the entire American population and 60-70% of America's highest-performing high school students.

    Replies: @anita patel, @TWS, @Chebyshev, @JimDandy, @Prester John, @Fenster, @Return of Shawn, @That Would Be Telling

    As an example of this, Hillel claims that there is not a single “Jewish” student at Caltech, yet Caltech actually has quite a number of Jewish students:

    Well that’s very interesting. Small school, small undergraduate body at ~250 per class, but, still, we’re expected to believe none attend the premier science undergraduate problem in the nation if not world?

    I wonder how much MIT Hillel is sandbagging; larger school, ~1,100 per class, they report enough so white gentile males have what I now realize is a ceiling of 10% of the student body.

  146. @Johann Ricke
    @AnotherDad


    But actual Russia is less and less Russian as well. It is more and more full of Muslims–including lots of illegals in from the ‘stans–who actually breed, while white/Russian fertility remains in the dumper. By the end of the century, it could well be a big sprawling–majority muslim!–pig pile.

    Putin could have–should have–focused on making sure Russian schools that looked like that, kept looking that. But your imagined whitopia does not interest Putin. He’s a guy who fought bloody war–leveled Grozny–to keep the Chechens in Russia. How f’ing stupid is that? And now Putin–not NATO–launched a sleazy 1914 style imperialist war, that is slaughtering thousands of Russia’s and Ukraine’s young men. Brilliant!
     
    Many on the alt-right have these racial fantasies about empire-builders that don't really hold up when you look at the history books. Hitler was probably the only somewhat successful conqueror* who wanted to kill every single member of any out-group that struck his fancy.

    Most conquerors want to rule the world, not empty it of the groups they hate. The Persians had fought the Greeks for centuries before Alexander set out to conquer the world. When he conquered Persia, he married into the Persian nobility and employed large numbers of Persians in his armies, to the extent he almost caused a mutiny.

    Fact is - conquerors are into self-aggrandizement, not the advancement of any particular tribe, even their own. When the Mongols conquered vast Muslim lands, they converted in order to ease the process of integrating their new subjects into their armies. In time, they would wage jihad against their heathen (shamanistic/Buddhist) co-ethnic Mongols in order to expand their own domains. Note that the self-interest at issue here was always personal, not tribal in some overarching sense.

    If Putin felt that converting to Islam would spur his troops to greater effort and/or help win his wars for fame and glory, he would. To paraphrase the Huguenot aristocrat Henry IV of Navarre's laconic statement many centuries ago, "DC is worth a shahada". While the catechisms and liturgies might differ, one notional deity is much like another.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahada

    * Hitler's initial successes were due to the fact that he rose to the top of an industrial economy second only to the US, not some preternatural skill in the military arts. If Hitler had become the Fuhrer of Czechoslovakia, he'd likely have been squashed like a bug. His main achievement was political - his rise from humble roots to leader of a major power in Europe.

    Replies: @Curle

    “who wanted to kill every single member of any out-group that struck his fancy.”

    What do conquerors typically do with enemy populations still under their control while preparing to retreat from that very enemy? Create a bigger army on your rear? Isn’t this the matter discussed, and not resolved, in the ‘80s? That Hitler began killing the captives once the war in the East was lost.

    What did Sherman’s army do to enemy civilians left in his rear?

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    @Curle


    What do conquerors typically do with enemy populations still under their control while preparing to retreat from that very enemy? Create a bigger army on your rear? Isn’t this the matter discussed, and not resolved, in the ‘80s? That Hitler began killing the captives once the war in the East was lost.
     
    Hitler started ordering mass killings of Jews from the very beginning. Three months into his invasion of Russia, Jews were getting slaughtered en masse:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar

    Note that killing civilians while being pushed back by a superior enemy was a very dangerous move. At minimum, the traditional remedy for such an act was repayment in full. By doing what he did, Hitler put the entire German people at risk. If the Russians had merely killed one German for every Russian killed, post-war Germany would have lost 1/3 of its population. If they had repaid with interest, the German people in East Germany would have ceased to exist.

    The principal reason the Germans in the Russian zone weren't butchered* to the last man, woman and child? Stalin was a traditional empire-builder. He viewed the people under him as interchangeable. Russians, Germans, Czechs - they were all fungible to him.

    * There was no real need to do a traditional Roman-style massacre.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(70_CE)#Destruction_of_Jerusalem

    He could simply have had the East German population walk to Siberia. Something similar was imposed on rebellious Circassians in the Tsarist era, with far less provocation:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassian_genocide

    Replies: @Curle, @Anonymous

  147. @Corvinus
    @Curle

    You are overgeneralizing of course.

    But why must normies care? It’s YOUR obsession. Exactly like black women and their hair.

    So what do you think should be the appropriate number for Jews in the banking, legal, and entertainment industries?

    Replies: @Curle, @ATBOTL

    “So what do you think should be the appropriate number for Jews in the banking, legal, and entertainment industries?”

    Whatever number is small enough to render insignificant any hostility to the rest of us that would be amplified by their numbers. As a general rule I don’t think nations should have unassimilated minorities in significant numbers. All groups should have their own country where they dominate and control. Rootless and nomadic cosmopolitans should become agrarians.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Curle

    "Whatever number is small enough to render insignificant any hostility to the rest of us that would be amplified by their numbers."

    So you really don't know. It's an arbitrary figure, one based on the perception that a group if it became large enough would be perpetually hostile to other groups. Do normies and Generation Z generally share your fear of Jewish dominance and power?

    Besides, how do you propose to put into place your plan AND enforce it? We are all ears...

    "As a general rule I don’t think nations should have unassimilated minorities in significant numbers."

    In essence, your opinion. You do realize that the U.S. was found by competing minority groups--the Puritans, the Dutch, Scots-Irish, etc.

    "All groups should have their own country where they dominate and control."

    We do. It's called the U.S. as Americans.

    "Rootless and nomadic cosmopolitans should become agrarians."

    Another opinion. We appreciate it.

    Replies: @Curle

  148. @Arclight
    So promotion of DIE has turned out to be a sort of massive own goal? So shocking.

    This sort of awaking is what it's going to take though - Jews are far more racially conscious than the typical Protestant white person so they notice these kind of things, whereas lots of nice white ladies haven't yet seen their children getting shot down for the first five colleges on their list or getting passed over for job opportunities. It's coming, though. Anyone with any brains will realize that utilizing their own personal networks - whether social, religious, etc. - to form a sort of parallel society to ensure your friends and family can still earn a decent living is going to be necessary.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    lots of nice white ladies haven’t yet seen their children getting shot down for the first five colleges on their list

    Wish I had saved it, think it was an Unz.com probably iSteve comment that mentioned someone who’s smart daughter failed to get into every school in her list including the “safe” ones. Was attending a community college and was very depressed.

    Went on to mention negroes who’d gotten Cs were getting into Berkeley, so maybe this was a California state thing, but between that and what I’ve heard about changes in admissions policies we could be seeing the destruction of the only state school that routinely competed with the best of the private R1 universities.

    In computer science for a long time there’s been only four top schools in the world, it, Stanford which is also messing with its admissions as I recall reading recently, CMU which has a math department derived CS department that last I checked does its own admissions, and MIT. In the 1980s MIT had a two year flub in admissions policy, new professional admissions director actually followed the faculty’s Official policies, and … it wasn’t pretty.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @That Would Be Telling

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/setting-so-many-jailbirds-free-in-2020-backfired-into-higher-crime/#comment-5831779

    , @Arclight
    @That Would Be Telling

    This goes back to my other comment about not wanting my kids to head for career paths that really require academic credentials from a select basket of schools to get on the ladder - it's a greased pole for whites now, so it's essentially a lottery and I have never lived my life hoping the right numbers would come up.

    There are still plenty of opportunities in the private sector if you get into an industry where your own brains and hustle count for a lot and boutique businesses thrive. Frankly I think this is where most talented white kids are headed as it becomes increasingly clear to parents that bigger companies/industries that need to toe the line on DIE have very limited opportunities and they need to find other paths to follow if they want to be in the top 20% or better of the income distribution.

  149. @anita patel
    @Ron Unz

    Another place to look would be the Westinghouse Science Talent Search awardees in the late '50s and early '60s. Students with typically Jewish names (and often from the Greater New York area) are greatly over represented. Yet in this years Regeneron Science Talent Search (successor to the WTS) the overwhelming number of the names are South Asian and Northeast Asian (almost always Chinese) with only a smattering of typically Jewish names and almost no Japanese names. Perhaps the explanation is that Jews, like Japanese, have been so completely assimilated into American society that they have become just as fat and lazy as the laggard Gentiles. Hows that Ron you Westinghouse Science Talent Search winner?

    Replies: @Ron Unz

    Yet in this years Regeneron Science Talent Search (successor to the WTS) the overwhelming number of the names are South Asian and Northeast Asian (almost always Chinese) with only a smattering of typically Jewish names and almost no Japanese names.

    Sure. Here’s the chart from my big 2012 Meritocracy analysis showing the trajectory of Science Talent Search winners, and I assume that the trends have continued since then.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/#meritocracy-vs-jews

    • Replies: @Nico
    @Ron Unz

    Interesting that Asians excelled so much in Chemistry, one field of science which has been by and large “mapped out” if we’re speaking of “pure” chemistry. (Of course, we still do come across periodic surprises, as the late Karen Wetterhahn’s family can attest.)

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Anonymous

  150. @Chebyshev
    @Ron Unz

    Thanks - your articles have been very educative.


    The following year, the Jewish enrollment figures published by Hillel plummeted across all colleges, especially the most elite ones, thereby greatly reducing the suspicious “mismatch.” As far as I can tell, Hillel did this by restricting their definition to students who are religiously Jewish.
     
    But do you think Hillel is doing this for the lower profile Ivies? I assume the 21% Jewish figure for Cornell doesn't only include religious Jews, nor does the 24% figure for Brown. I assume those schools can be more honest about their Jewish numbers because they aren't in the spotlight quite as much as HYP.

    https://www.hillel.org/college/cornell-university/

    Replies: @Ron Unz

    But do you think Hillel is doing this for the lower profile Ivies? I assume the 21% Jewish figure for Cornell doesn’t only include religious Jews, nor does the 24% figure for Brown.

    That’s interesting. The sudden collapse in Hillel numbers at the HYP colleges came the year after my Harvard Overseer campaign and I noticed that the new Harvard numbers were suspiciously close to the percentage of religiously Jewish students at the college. Then the 0% I found at Caltech seemed to confirm my analysis. But I didn’t bother checking other colleges at the time, so it’s possible that the apparent change in Hillel’s methodology was implemented at some chapters but not at others.

  151. @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    So the number of Asians at the Ivy League grew from 12% in 1990 to 21% today , while the number of Jews declined from 25% to 10% over the past 32 years.

    Jews are still over-represented by a factor of 5 and Asians are over-represented by a factor of 3 at the Ivy colleges. Christian Whites are under-represented at the top colleges. Only about 40% of students are non-Jewish White, although 50% of high school grads are White.

    in 1990 the US had 6 million Jews and today we have 7 million Jews. While we had 189 million whites in 1990 and today just 187 million whites. So the Jewish population is doing better than the white population. If we exclude Jews and other MENA people from the white population we have just 178 million Whites today a decline of 5 million since 1990.

    Replies: @Ron Unz

    So the number of Asians at the Ivy League grew from 12% in 1990 to 21% today , while the number of Jews declined from 25% to 10% over the past 32 years

    Sure, that would have made perfect sense. But as I’ve discussed in my articles, that’s not what actually happened. As I wrote in 2018:

    Many years ago as a young and naive undergraduate, I would usually spend my dinners discussing all sorts of political and policy issues with my fellow classmates in our Harvard dining hall.

    Affirmative Action was a regular topic of our conversations, and I would occasionally note how odd America was in that regard. No other example came to mind in which an ethnic group had established a legalized system of racial discrimination against its own members, while similar sorts of systems aimed at excluding or disadvantaging rival ethnic groups were all too common in world history.

    As the decades went by, I gradually noticed that the huge and continuing increase in the enrollment of non-white and foreign students at our most elite universities had caused a complete collapse in the enrollment of white American Gentiles, but oddly enough, no similar reduction in Jewish numbers. It was well-known that Jewish activists had been the primary force behind the establishment of Affirmative Action and related policies in college admissions, and I began to wonder about their true motivation, whether conscious or unconscious.

    Had the goal been the stated one, of providing educational opportunities to previously excluded groups? Or had that merely been the excuse used to advance a policy that eliminated the majority of white Gentiles, their primary ethnic competitors? With the Jewish population numbering merely 2%, there was an obvious limit as to how many elite college slots they themselves could possibly fill, but if enough other groups were also brought in, then Gentile numbers could easily be reduced to low levels, despite the fact that they constituted the bulk of the national population.

    Asians represented an interesting test-case. As their numbers rapidly grew, white Gentiles were consequently pushed out, and this process was celebrated across the academic community. But by the late 1980s, Asian numbers had increased to such an extent that they inevitably began to impinge upon elite Jewish enrollment as well and future increases would surely worsen the situation. And at that point, the process suddenly halted, with Asian numbers being sharply reduced and thereafter permanently capped. The implications of this situation were already in the back of my mind when I published my 1998 Wall Street Journal column describing some of these striking racial facts.

    The current high-profile trial in Boston is widely portrayed by the media as a conflict between Asian-American groups, whose educational interests suffer under the current subjective and opaque admissions system, and black and Hispanic groups, whose numbers might be sharply reduced under some proposed changes. Whites are largely portrayed as bystanders, with Harvard indicating that their numbers would scarcely shift even under drastic changes in admissions policy. But the term “white” encompasses both Jews and Gentiles, and thus may conceal more than it reveals.

    So for 30 years, Jewish numbers remained the same or even increased, but then suddenly disappeared the year after my unsuccessful campaign for the Harvard Board of Overseers. I strongly suspect this merely involved a matter of redefinition:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/challenging-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/

    • Replies: @Gross Terry
    @Ron Unz

    Honestly if Jewish identity is diluted enough that you have to resort to fractional countin, it starts to look unlikely that this is the signal that admissions is looking for. How many kids are writing about bubbale's potato pancakes in their collegiate essays and how many are talking about all the LGBT nonsense they are involved in? Its hard to overstate how incredibly gay zoomers are.

  152. @Curle
    @Johann Ricke

    “who wanted to kill every single member of any out-group that struck his fancy.”

    What do conquerors typically do with enemy populations still under their control while preparing to retreat from that very enemy? Create a bigger army on your rear? Isn’t this the matter discussed, and not resolved, in the ‘80s? That Hitler began killing the captives once the war in the East was lost.

    What did Sherman’s army do to enemy civilians left in his rear?

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

    What do conquerors typically do with enemy populations still under their control while preparing to retreat from that very enemy? Create a bigger army on your rear? Isn’t this the matter discussed, and not resolved, in the ‘80s? That Hitler began killing the captives once the war in the East was lost.

    Hitler started ordering mass killings of Jews from the very beginning. Three months into his invasion of Russia, Jews were getting slaughtered en masse:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar

    Note that killing civilians while being pushed back by a superior enemy was a very dangerous move. At minimum, the traditional remedy for such an act was repayment in full. By doing what he did, Hitler put the entire German people at risk. If the Russians had merely killed one German for every Russian killed, post-war Germany would have lost 1/3 of its population. If they had repaid with interest, the German people in East Germany would have ceased to exist.

    The principal reason the Germans in the Russian zone weren’t butchered* to the last man, woman and child? Stalin was a traditional empire-builder. He viewed the people under him as interchangeable. Russians, Germans, Czechs – they were all fungible to him.

    * There was no real need to do a traditional Roman-style massacre.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(70_CE)#Destruction_of_Jerusalem

    He could simply have had the East German population walk to Siberia. Something similar was imposed on rebellious Circassians in the Tsarist era, with far less provocation:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassian_genocide

    • Troll: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @Curle
    @Johann Ricke

    Nice to know you’ve convinced yourself of a theory that’s been debated for decades. A partial summary (from Wikipedia even) below. I’m using their summary because I only intend to show that the issue remains unsettled.

    You can also read the attached and bolster your argument with an authoritative dismissal.

    https://archive.org/details/twistedroadtoaus00schl

    From Wikipedia

    Extreme functionalists such as Martin Broszat believe that the Nazi leadership had nothing to do with initiating the Holocaust and that the entire initiative came from the lower ranks of the German bureaucracy. This philosophy is what is known as the bottom-up approach of the Holocaust. Gotz Aly has made much of documents from the bureaucracy of the German Government-General of Poland arguing that the population of Poland would have to decrease by 25% to allow the Polish economy to grow. Criticism centers on the idea that this explanation does not really show why the Nazis would deport Jews from France and the Netherlands to death camps in Poland if it was Poland the Nazis were concerned with, and why the Jews of Poland were targeted instead of the random sample of 25% of the Polish population. Additional criticism of functionalism points out that Hitler and other Nazi leaders delayed railcars providing supplies to front line troops in the Soviet Union so that Jews could be deported by rail from the USSR to death camps thus demonstrating the pursuit of genocidal policies over pragmatic wartime actions.[citation needed]Hans Mommsen was a leading expert on Nazi Germany and the Holocaust.[15] He argued that Hitler was a "weak dictator" who rather than acting decisively, reacted to various social pressures. Mommsen believed that Nazi Germany was not a totalitarian state.[15] Together with his friend Broszat, Mommsen developed a structuralist interpretation of the Third Reich, that saw the Nazi state as a chaotic collection of rival bureaucracies engaged in endless power struggles and the Final Solution as a result of the "cumulative radicalization" of the German state as opposed to a long-term plan on the part of Adolf Hitler.[15]

    Moderate functionalists, such as Karl Schleunes and Christopher Browning, believe that the rivalry within the unstable Nazi power structure provided the major driving force behind the Holocaust. Moderate functionalists believe that the Nazis aimed to expel all of the Jews from Europe, but only after the failure of these schemes did they resort to genocide. This is sometimes referred to as the "twisted road" to genocide, after a book by Schleunes called The Twisted Road to Auschwitz.[16]

    , @Anonymous
    @Johann Ricke

    I'm not sure if it was equivalent, but there was a massive "ethnic cleansing" of Germans from Slavic countries. And it was approved by the western Allies.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944%E2%80%931950)

    Were you unaware of this?

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

  153. Unfortunately, all this is belied by, say, Harvard enrollment figures. It’s white gentiles Jews throw under the bus, not themselves.

    ‘…The principal reason the Germans in the Russian zone weren’t butchered* to the last man, woman and child?’

    That’s sickening. Stalin killed as many as two million ethnic Germans. In Silesia and East Prussia in particular, it was literally deliberate genocide.

  154. @Ron Unz
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco


    So the number of Asians at the Ivy League grew from 12% in 1990 to 21% today , while the number of Jews declined from 25% to 10% over the past 32 years
     
    Sure, that would have made perfect sense. But as I've discussed in my articles, that's not what actually happened. As I wrote in 2018:

    Many years ago as a young and naive undergraduate, I would usually spend my dinners discussing all sorts of political and policy issues with my fellow classmates in our Harvard dining hall.

    Affirmative Action was a regular topic of our conversations, and I would occasionally note how odd America was in that regard. No other example came to mind in which an ethnic group had established a legalized system of racial discrimination against its own members, while similar sorts of systems aimed at excluding or disadvantaging rival ethnic groups were all too common in world history.

    As the decades went by, I gradually noticed that the huge and continuing increase in the enrollment of non-white and foreign students at our most elite universities had caused a complete collapse in the enrollment of white American Gentiles, but oddly enough, no similar reduction in Jewish numbers. It was well-known that Jewish activists had been the primary force behind the establishment of Affirmative Action and related policies in college admissions, and I began to wonder about their true motivation, whether conscious or unconscious.

    Had the goal been the stated one, of providing educational opportunities to previously excluded groups? Or had that merely been the excuse used to advance a policy that eliminated the majority of white Gentiles, their primary ethnic competitors? With the Jewish population numbering merely 2%, there was an obvious limit as to how many elite college slots they themselves could possibly fill, but if enough other groups were also brought in, then Gentile numbers could easily be reduced to low levels, despite the fact that they constituted the bulk of the national population.

    Asians represented an interesting test-case. As their numbers rapidly grew, white Gentiles were consequently pushed out, and this process was celebrated across the academic community. But by the late 1980s, Asian numbers had increased to such an extent that they inevitably began to impinge upon elite Jewish enrollment as well and future increases would surely worsen the situation. And at that point, the process suddenly halted, with Asian numbers being sharply reduced and thereafter permanently capped. The implications of this situation were already in the back of my mind when I published my 1998 Wall Street Journal column describing some of these striking racial facts.

    The current high-profile trial in Boston is widely portrayed by the media as a conflict between Asian-American groups, whose educational interests suffer under the current subjective and opaque admissions system, and black and Hispanic groups, whose numbers might be sharply reduced under some proposed changes. Whites are largely portrayed as bystanders, with Harvard indicating that their numbers would scarcely shift even under drastic changes in admissions policy. But the term “white” encompasses both Jews and Gentiles, and thus may conceal more than it reveals.
     
    So for 30 years, Jewish numbers remained the same or even increased, but then suddenly disappeared the year after my unsuccessful campaign for the Harvard Board of Overseers. I strongly suspect this merely involved a matter of redefinition:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/challenging-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/

    Replies: @Gross Terry

    Honestly if Jewish identity is diluted enough that you have to resort to fractional countin, it starts to look unlikely that this is the signal that admissions is looking for. How many kids are writing about bubbale’s potato pancakes in their collegiate essays and how many are talking about all the LGBT nonsense they are involved in? Its hard to overstate how incredibly gay zoomers are.

  155. @Jack D
    @Simon in London

    You couldn't fill a thimble with the amount of Asabiyyah that exists in Russia. The place is every man for himself.

    I think the word you are looking for is dezinformatsiya. Ukraine is not threatened by Pushkin or Tchaikovsky. Rockets yes. The reason that the Soviets were interested in rocketry was because they were weapons. The USSR was backwards EXCEPT for things that had a military application. Their whole economy was geared toward "military first". To some extent, Putin benefitted from the (seemingly) endless amount of artillery shells and tanks, etc. that the USSR built but after a year of war they have burned a lot of that stuff up and modern Russia doesn't have that kind of manufacturing ability anymore.

    By the way, what do you think a kindergarten in Ukraine looks like? Aren't they white Christian people too? Putin's rockets are not killing all those terrible brown trannies in Sweden - they are killing white Christians. And getting a lot of Russian white Christian soldiers killed too. Why don't those white Christians count?

    Replies: @Simon in London

    I’m against the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

    • Replies: @neutral
    @Simon in London

    I would like you explain your cognitive dissonance on this issue? You can clearly see what happens to any country that becomes a "USA" (you know who it really is) vassal, in a few decades they all will end up with third world demographics. This did not happen to Ukraine when it was part of the Russian empire, in what scenario can you see Ukraine ever being able to escape the inevitable "USA" demographic disaster? That being the case, how could you ever support the side that pushes for this???

    Replies: @Simon in London, @bomag

  156. @That Would Be Telling
    @Arclight


    lots of nice white ladies haven’t yet seen their children getting shot down for the first five colleges on their list
     
    Wish I had saved it, think it was an Unz.com probably iSteve comment that mentioned someone who's smart daughter failed to get into every school in her list including the "safe" ones. Was attending a community college and was very depressed.

    Went on to mention negroes who'd gotten Cs were getting into Berkeley, so maybe this was a California state thing, but between that and what I've heard about changes in admissions policies we could be seeing the destruction of the only state school that routinely competed with the best of the private R1 universities.

    In computer science for a long time there's been only four top schools in the world, it, Stanford which is also messing with its admissions as I recall reading recently, CMU which has a math department derived CS department that last I checked does its own admissions, and MIT. In the 1980s MIT had a two year flub in admissions policy, new professional admissions director actually followed the faculty's Official policies, and ... it wasn't pretty.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Arclight

  157. @Jack D
    @Dumbo

    I hope you realize that Silverman is a comedienne and that her "quote" about killing Christ was a joke.

    Anyway, I don't know what you goyim are pissed about. As I understand it, the whole basis of the religion is that Christ died for your sins. If Jesus lives to a ripe old age (40?) and dies of natural causes then there goes your whole religion.

    Replies: @Dumbo, @Hibernian

    Hmmm… You’re kinda proving my point, aren’t you? Someone says Jews should be more self-critical, and Jewish person replies attacking “goyim” and the Christian religion. LOL.

    Sure, it was a “joke”. A very funny one. I mean, Silverman is such a talented comedian, isn’t she. I can’t stop laughing when I see her…

    Anyway, I have little against Jews per se. I have many Jewish acquaintances. I just wish those influential Jews that Steve keeps talking about (I know no one personally in that category) would stop promoting non-white immigration, gay and transgender stuff, wars, etc.

    Just look at the war in Ukraine. From Nuland to Blinken to Zelensky to you, it’s almost all Jews. Sure, maybe they think they are on the “right side of history” or whatever, but it is curious, isn’t it? Why so many Jews involved in that stuff? The same in gay rights, the same in non-white immigration. Why is that? Someone less instructed might suspect some kind of conspiracy… (Ok, there is one Jewish woman who writes against transgender stuff, and people like Hersh have spoken against the war, so there’s that. See, I’m not saying “all Jews”. But more than average…)

  158. @PeC
    @Steve Sailer


    Alternatively, influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up the society where we most thrived?”
     
    Alternatively, you could drop the biweekly moronic "stop already Jewz! you clearly are white so join the Wholesome Team and fight with us against this leftist craziness!" theme. It is not only sad and boring, but how could this ever work in a million years?

    But of course, you are probably being disingenous. You surely have already figured out your role as a mere palliative, and this post mission is to cater to the "antisemites" among your readership... without too much controversy. So more of them will "tend" to donate when Panhandling Time comes.

    But let us supose you really are not that bright, and need to be explained by a non American how identity politics work in the USA. Read the following carefully, 10 times at least, and then take your time and let it sink in afterwards:

    Whether Jews are considered white or not by the DIE bean counters - or bread-and-circuses boomer HBD bloggers - is irrelevant, for Jews are already allowed to lobby as an ethnic group and are not currently being demonized by mainstream media, academia and the USG.

    Unlike whites ie European Americans of Christian descent.

    Replies: @bomag

    The complaint of the cited article is that the ethnic cut out strategy is not a protection in the DIE world.

  159. @Ron Unz
    @anita patel


    Yet in this years Regeneron Science Talent Search (successor to the WTS) the overwhelming number of the names are South Asian and Northeast Asian (almost always Chinese) with only a smattering of typically Jewish names and almost no Japanese names.
     
    Sure. Here's the chart from my big 2012 Meritocracy analysis showing the trajectory of Science Talent Search winners, and I assume that the trends have continued since then.

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/f2a-large.jpg

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/#meritocracy-vs-jews

    Replies: @Nico

    Interesting that Asians excelled so much in Chemistry, one field of science which has been by and large “mapped out” if we’re speaking of “pure” chemistry. (Of course, we still do come across periodic surprises, as the late Karen Wetterhahn’s family can attest.)

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Nico


    Of course, [in chemistry] we still do come across periodic surprises, as the late Karen Wetterhahn’s family can attest.
     
    The big surprise there, and it shouldn't have been so big, was how very poorly standard gloves stopped the incredibly toxic compound dimethylmercury. Plus I have no freaking idea why it became a standard internal reference for NMR measurements, it's so obviously a bad idea. Then again, at least one of my chemistry professors joked about the short lives of chemists, one nonetheless living long enough to get two well earned Nobel Prizes and is now 81.
    , @Anonymous
    @Nico

    I have a Ph.D. in chemistry. And I've never thought of chemistry as "mapped out". It's a very frequent exercise to make new solid state materials and organic chemicals, many of which have novel structures and properties.

    I'm also not clear what you mean by "pure" chemistry. That term is not used from my experience. Perhaps you mean theoretical chemistry? Even so, there's still lots of work being done in theory.

    Physicists will occasionally point to Schroedinger's Equation and say it's all settled. But ask a physicist to make a novel material or a cheaper route to a known one. They have zero clue. Because it turns out that more empirical insights (to include even periodic trends) are what are actually useful. Even within theory, there's a lot of work to try to make things calculatable. (It ends up being a massively non-trivial multi-body problem.)

  160. There are still powerful Jews in Washington—neo-Nazis on Twitter like to post photos of Biden’s cabinet—but the influence is waning.

    This is absolutely ridiculous. Not only are these people pushing for war with Russian, China and Iran at the same time (which only benefits them), without any push back, they are also openly allowing the genocide happening in Palestine now. For people with supposed waning influence, their total control all things political and economic sure does not look this way.

  161. @Simon in London
    @Jack D

    I'm against the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

    Replies: @neutral

    I would like you explain your cognitive dissonance on this issue? You can clearly see what happens to any country that becomes a “USA” (you know who it really is) vassal, in a few decades they all will end up with third world demographics. This did not happen to Ukraine when it was part of the Russian empire, in what scenario can you see Ukraine ever being able to escape the inevitable “USA” demographic disaster? That being the case, how could you ever support the side that pushes for this???

    • Replies: @Simon in London
    @neutral

    I'm consistently against invasions. The USA has done a lot of bad things, including invasions. Including inciting the Maidan uprising. It was still bad for Russia to attack Ukraine, causing immense suffering. It's bad when the USA does it (Iraq), it's bad when Russia does it. This is completely different from when Russia intervened in Syria, where Russian intervention reduced net suffering/harm.

    Ukraine should certainly seek to maintain independence from the USA and its moral degeneracy.

    "in a few decades they all will end up with third world demographics" - Some recently liberalised countries like Ireland are following that path. I've not seen much sign of it with eg Poland though. I certainly agree that US influence is harmful. It's not all-powerful though.

    Replies: @CCG

    , @bomag
    @neutral

    Don't see how the invasion addresses these issues. Russia has become a reliable demographic shredder, giving us Woke talking points for the invasion. It's burning the village to save it.

  162. @Corvinus
    @anonymouseperson

    “Sweden was the perfect country and they had to FU** it up with nonwhites.“

    That’s absolutely batshit insane for you to say.

    But if you want to play that stupid game, the U.S. was the perfect country until Eastern and Southern Europeans showed up on our shores.

    You have to go back.

    Replies: @Verymuchalive

    Crowman

    “Sweden was the perfect country and they had to FU** it up with nonwhites.“
    That’s absolutely batshit insane for you to say.

    But not batshite insane for the Prime Minister of Sweden to say.
    https://hungary.postsen.com/world/50207/Swedish-Prime-Minister-We-do-not-want-Somali-cities-in-Sweden.html

    The Swedish prime minister would abolish the ethnic ghettos in the big cities, which are hotbeds of organized crime.

    When even the limp biscuit left-liberal Swedish Prime Minister has to admit this, the evidence is overwhelming. It is extremely evident in the figures for rape and sex assault.
    https://unherd.com/2021/04/swedens-migrant-rape-crisis/

    The researchers found that, within that time-frame, a total of 3,039 offenders were convicted of rape+ against a woman in Sweden — nearly all of whom (99.7%) were men. According to the researchers, Swedish-born offenders with Swedish-born parents accounted for 40.8% of the offenders. But, strikingly, almost half of the offenders were born outside of Sweden (47.7%). Of those foreign-born offenders, 34.5% were from the Middle East/North Africa, with 19.1% hailing from the rest of Africa. As a percentage of all convicted perpetrators, therefore, 16.4% were foreign-born individuals from the Middle East/North Africa, and 9.1% were foreign-born individuals from Africa (excluding North Africa).

    Crowman

    But if you want to play that stupid game, the U.S. was the perfect country until Eastern and Southern Europeans showed up on our shores.

    You dishonestly compare Somalis ( average IQ 68 ), a country of violent retards, with Italians, Poles and Hungarians. Southern and Eastern Europeans have nearly all assimilated into American society and many have made outstanding contributions to it. Somalis and their like are nearly all unassimilable retards with nothing to contribute to American society but violence.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Verymuchalive

    "You dishonestly compare Somalis ( average IQ 68 ), a country of violent retards, with Italians, Poles and Hungarians."

    That would be a straw man on your part. I never made that comparison. Those three groups you listed were considered the Somalis of the time period (early 1900's) by nativists, who were WASPS. They wanted no part with inferior peoples. Remember, the Italians were considered "Sicilian gangsters"--nearly all unassailable retards with nothing to contribute to American society but violence.

    So, what changed? Magic dirt?

    Replies: @Nico

    , @That Would Be Telling
    @Verymuchalive


    Southern and Eastern Europeans have nearly all assimilated into American society and many have made outstanding contributions to it. Somalis and their like are nearly all unassimilable retards with nothing to contribute to American society but violence.
     
    While you're right about "violent retards" from places like Somalia, a strong case can be made that America was lost, failed to "secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity" when it started admitting large numbers of people from outside the Hajnal line or thereabouts. Starting with the Irish who had pathologies our WASP leadership found hard to comprehend, and then most certainly Southern and Eastern Europeans.

    No, our magic dirt did not work for them, instead they changed America, mostly the urban part of it of course, and far for the worse. As one extreme example read up on the Curley Effect, an example of why the city of Boston stayed very small compared to many if not most other big cities that absorbed neighboring cities and towns. As another, see the Irish role in the 1965 immigration bill.

    The Eastern Europeans of course included a lot of revolutionary Jews, substantially more radical than many of their Central European brethren, the latter nonetheless including Marx, Freud (maybe), and Franz "Blank Slate" Boas, see the chapters devoted to the latter two in The Culture of Critique and how what they did was neither medicine nor SCIENCE!!!.

    We've also heard, I've not tried to run this down, that Lincoln was influenced by some revolutionaries who fled their failures in 1848; I'm not sure where they came from. See who was responsible for the violence that prompted our 1920s immigration crackdown.

    TL;DR: to the extent these peoples eventually assimilated which is hard to judge after the (((New Left))) gained control of the country in the 1960s-70s, it was not before they fatally wounded the Republic.

    Replies: @Verymuchalive, @Corvinus, @Curle

  163. @prime noticer
    "And guess what? For purposes of diversity, Jews count as white."

    except they don't, as Jews themselves are the people running the campaign to get rid of europeans, and are hyper aware of the distinction between themselves and the people they're trying to get rid of, so they're very careful and particular to get rid of europeans and not themselves. the modern effort to get rid of europeans WAS STARTED BY JEWS. this is game theory. this is evolutionary strategy. they will then count their much smaller numbers in whatever organization as the allowed number of 'whites', and be victorious. it is Jews telling you that they're the same as you for this trick, that they're in the same group as you. you didn't come to that conclusion yourself. indeed, your ancestors all knew Jews were not europeans.

    if Jews are europeans, how can bashing them be 'anti-Semitic'? they are literally biologically identified as a genetic outgroup. like Gypsies, they are not people of europe. we know Jews are not europeans for many biological and social reasons, just like we know Gypsies are not. they're easily identified as outgroups on genetic tests, which Steve is normally super into, but not on this topic for some reason.

    but what's important is that Jews themselves are extremely aware they are not europeans, and behave as such. they're 'white' until it's time to start blaming 'whites' for group associated bad stuff at which time they instantly become Jews and not 'white'. using the standard rules that all groups use for shared credit but isolating blame. just as Andy Murray is British when he wins Wimbledon, but that annoying Scottish wanker when he loses, Jews are 'white' until it's time to start talking about who killed the Indians, who enslaved the africans, then they had nothing to do with it. it's one or the other. it can't be both. in the latter case, Jews are correct. they are not europeans. conversely, while they demand shared blame for europeans (some guy who just moved to the US from Poland last year also killed the Indians and enslaved the africans), they vigorously protest the same application of this concept to Jews. it's 'anti-Semitism' to engage in pattern recognition when it comes to them.

    so eventually anything they control, they'll be the only non-vibrant people left. they can then perversely even use this even further to their advantage when complaining about how european men control everything in some industry and how we really need to keep the pressure on to get rid of all these pale penis persons, when it's actually Jews who control everything who have also methodically gotten rid of all the european leadership in that industry. you have to hand it to them, that's crafty. they've been doing that a lot in Hollywood and professional sports. take out a few of their own bad actors and blame european men for it. "White men" are praying on young actresses. "White owners" of sports teams are secretly harassing the africans in private. they were all Jews, not europeans.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Exactly so.

  164. @Erik L
    One could look at this the other way around. Great institutions rise and fall. There is nothing natural about a Harvard degree being the most precious credential in America. This could all just be one of many signs that those great institutions are in their decline, looting, and finally bone picking stages.

    Replies: @CalCooledge

    Any institution straining to blackify itself is no longer an elite, or even respectable, institution.

  165. @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous


    Oh, yeah, that’s right, Putler and the Russkies doesn’t allow gay marriage, gay adoption, or child transgenderism so we need NATO to liberate them! 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️
     
    That's a--one particular--school in Sweden, and a--one particular--school in Russia.

    Sweden is indeed a good white disaster. A quarter of the people now aren't Swedish or even part Swedish. Though a good chunk of those are "close enough", it has definitely destroyed itself by importing vibrants. Sweden probably needs some sort of nationalist coup/separation now to save it, or even a piece of it.

    But actual Russia is less and less Russian as well. It is more and more full of Muslims--including lots of illegals in from the 'stans--who actually breed, while white/Russian fertility remains in the dumper. By the end of the century, it could well be a big sprawling--majority muslim!--pig pile.

    Putin could have--should have--focused on making sure Russian schools that looked like that, kept looking that. But your imagined whitopia does not interest Putin. He's a guy who fought bloody war--leveled Grozny--to keep the Chechens in Russia. How f'ing stupid is that? And now Putin--not NATO--launched a sleazy 1914 style imperialist war, that is slaughtering thousands of Russia's and Ukraine's young men. Brilliant!

    You guys can keep blathering on idiotically with your Putin fantasies, but he is what he is--a Czar wannabe, a 19th century style Russian imperialist, completely consumed with being a "big man" expanding the scope and power of the Russian Empire and utterly unconcerned with making Russia a great nation for Russians to live in.

    Calling a pig "George Washington" doesn't actually change the character of the pig. It's still goes "oink".

    Replies: @Prester John, @Johann Ricke, @CalCooledge, @stari_momak

    It is a war of white Christians killing white Christians. Probably one reason the ruling class doesn’t want peace. When it eventually ends, they’ll move in millions of Africans to repopulate and diversify.

  166. @neutral
    @Simon in London

    I would like you explain your cognitive dissonance on this issue? You can clearly see what happens to any country that becomes a "USA" (you know who it really is) vassal, in a few decades they all will end up with third world demographics. This did not happen to Ukraine when it was part of the Russian empire, in what scenario can you see Ukraine ever being able to escape the inevitable "USA" demographic disaster? That being the case, how could you ever support the side that pushes for this???

    Replies: @Simon in London, @bomag

    I’m consistently against invasions. The USA has done a lot of bad things, including invasions. Including inciting the Maidan uprising. It was still bad for Russia to attack Ukraine, causing immense suffering. It’s bad when the USA does it (Iraq), it’s bad when Russia does it. This is completely different from when Russia intervened in Syria, where Russian intervention reduced net suffering/harm.

    Ukraine should certainly seek to maintain independence from the USA and its moral degeneracy.

    “in a few decades they all will end up with third world demographics” – Some recently liberalised countries like Ireland are following that path. I’ve not seen much sign of it with eg Poland though. I certainly agree that US influence is harmful. It’s not all-powerful though.

    • Replies: @CCG
    @Simon in London


    I’ve not seen much sign of it with eg Poland though.
     
    You've clearly never heard of Karolina Goswami. She's a Polish woman (she claims to be a "responsible Christian" in her videos, even though it's obvious to everyone that she never was) married to an Assamese Hindu Brahmin, and she's desperately trying to make Dharmic Dindus appear relevant and desirable in Poland.
  167. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    Russia is not the Whitopia of your dreams.


    Now, up to 20 percent of the population [of Moscow] may be Muslim,” he said. Demographers estimate Russia’s Islamic community may account for a majority of the nation’s population by mid-century.
     
    https://www.baptistpress.com/resource-library/news/muslim-population-in-russia-grows-quickly/

    Moscow at Friday prayers:

    https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.18172-8/13528508_10154354489789060_8835416173784078921_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=3z946ZIhggEAX9QqS7x&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfDnY-kD7gNL4a6nBUIPwLxo-Jt8CNs3O8mhjRZzvfgQ8g&oe=6429734B

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Steve Sailer, @stari_momak

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-mosque/putin-opens-moscows-largest-mosque-warns-against-extremists-idUSKCN0RN1UD20150923

    Putin opens Moscow’s largest mosque, warns against extremists
    By Reuters Staff

    2 MIN READ

    MOSCOW (Reuters) – President Vladimir Putin opened Moscow’s new grand mosque on Wednesday, urging Russia’s Islamic leaders to stand against extremism at a time when some 2,400 Russians are fighting with Islamic State in the Middle East.

  168. Anonymous[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dutch Boy
    @Chebyshev

    My impression has been that Jews were all in on affirmative action because they believed that it would predominately affect white Christians and that their wealth and connections would largely exempt them from any negative effects. In other words, AA is just cultural and economic warfare against their favorite enemies.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Jews were famously opposed to this kind of discrimination in the early days (1970s), because they feared that it would be extended to them.

  169. @AnotherDad

    Alternatively, influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up the society where we most thrived?”
     
    For all their verbal IQ and supposed "guilt complex" stuff, Jews don't seem to get around to asking themselves those sorts of questions.

    In fact, if one raises the rather obvious point that Jews have studiously worked to blow up the society where they most strived you are an .... wait for it ... an "anti-Semite".

    But if any Jews need help answering that "why?" question, I think I can wrack my brain and come up with an answer.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anonymous, @Mike Tre

    It’s pretty obvious, and especially illustrated by Steve’s own jewish commenters, that Jews as whole have a massive blind spot when it comes to self-awareness.

    Cancer doesn’t know that by its own nature it will eventually kill itself.

  170. Zyklon B has been pre-ordered and we are readying the showers in anticipation of the hebes when the day of the rope arrives.

  171. @Curle
    @Corvinus

    “So what do you think should be the appropriate number for Jews in the banking, legal, and entertainment industries?”

    Whatever number is small enough to render insignificant any hostility to the rest of us that would be amplified by their numbers. As a general rule I don’t think nations should have unassimilated minorities in significant numbers. All groups should have their own country where they dominate and control. Rootless and nomadic cosmopolitans should become agrarians.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Whatever number is small enough to render insignificant any hostility to the rest of us that would be amplified by their numbers.”

    So you really don’t know. It’s an arbitrary figure, one based on the perception that a group if it became large enough would be perpetually hostile to other groups. Do normies and Generation Z generally share your fear of Jewish dominance and power?

    Besides, how do you propose to put into place your plan AND enforce it? We are all ears…

    “As a general rule I don’t think nations should have unassimilated minorities in significant numbers.”

    In essence, your opinion. You do realize that the U.S. was found by competing minority groups–the Puritans, the Dutch, Scots-Irish, etc.

    “All groups should have their own country where they dominate and control.”

    We do. It’s called the U.S. as Americans.

    “Rootless and nomadic cosmopolitans should become agrarians.”

    Another opinion. We appreciate it.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Corvinus

    “You do realize that the U.S. was found by competing minority groups–the Puritans, the Dutch, Scots-Irish, etc.”

    That’s not a bad ethnic scope metric, ethnic groups that fought the Spanish/French in the 16th/17th centuries. Though I’m a little more liberal than you, I’d include most countries that were under Papacy in the Middle Ages.

    Thanks for the ‘do you realize?’ comment.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  172. @Verymuchalive
    @Corvinus

    Crowman


    “Sweden was the perfect country and they had to FU** it up with nonwhites.“
    That’s absolutely batshit insane for you to say.

     
    But not batshite insane for the Prime Minister of Sweden to say.
    https://hungary.postsen.com/world/50207/Swedish-Prime-Minister-We-do-not-want-Somali-cities-in-Sweden.html

    The Swedish prime minister would abolish the ethnic ghettos in the big cities, which are hotbeds of organized crime.

    When even the limp biscuit left-liberal Swedish Prime Minister has to admit this, the evidence is overwhelming. It is extremely evident in the figures for rape and sex assault.
    https://unherd.com/2021/04/swedens-migrant-rape-crisis/

    The researchers found that, within that time-frame, a total of 3,039 offenders were convicted of rape+ against a woman in Sweden — nearly all of whom (99.7%) were men. According to the researchers, Swedish-born offenders with Swedish-born parents accounted for 40.8% of the offenders. But, strikingly, almost half of the offenders were born outside of Sweden (47.7%). Of those foreign-born offenders, 34.5% were from the Middle East/North Africa, with 19.1% hailing from the rest of Africa. As a percentage of all convicted perpetrators, therefore, 16.4% were foreign-born individuals from the Middle East/North Africa, and 9.1% were foreign-born individuals from Africa (excluding North Africa).

    Crowman

    But if you want to play that stupid game, the U.S. was the perfect country until Eastern and Southern Europeans showed up on our shores.
     
    You dishonestly compare Somalis ( average IQ 68 ), a country of violent retards, with Italians, Poles and Hungarians. Southern and Eastern Europeans have nearly all assimilated into American society and many have made outstanding contributions to it. Somalis and their like are nearly all unassimilable retards with nothing to contribute to American society but violence.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @That Would Be Telling

    “You dishonestly compare Somalis ( average IQ 68 ), a country of violent retards, with Italians, Poles and Hungarians.”

    That would be a straw man on your part. I never made that comparison. Those three groups you listed were considered the Somalis of the time period (early 1900’s) by nativists, who were WASPS. They wanted no part with inferior peoples. Remember, the Italians were considered “Sicilian gangsters”–nearly all unassailable retards with nothing to contribute to American society but violence.

    So, what changed? Magic dirt?

    • Replies: @Nico
    @Corvinus


    “You dishonestly compare Somalis ( average IQ 68 ), a country of violent retards, with Italians, Poles and Hungarians.”

    That would be a straw man on your part. I never made that comparison. Those three groups you listed were considered the Somalis of the time period (early 1900’s) by nativists, who were WASPS.
     
    You did make the comparison before, and you’re just making it more clearly now.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  173. @neutral
    @Simon in London

    I would like you explain your cognitive dissonance on this issue? You can clearly see what happens to any country that becomes a "USA" (you know who it really is) vassal, in a few decades they all will end up with third world demographics. This did not happen to Ukraine when it was part of the Russian empire, in what scenario can you see Ukraine ever being able to escape the inevitable "USA" demographic disaster? That being the case, how could you ever support the side that pushes for this???

    Replies: @Simon in London, @bomag

    Don’t see how the invasion addresses these issues. Russia has become a reliable demographic shredder, giving us Woke talking points for the invasion. It’s burning the village to save it.

  174. @That Would Be Telling
    @Arclight


    lots of nice white ladies haven’t yet seen their children getting shot down for the first five colleges on their list
     
    Wish I had saved it, think it was an Unz.com probably iSteve comment that mentioned someone who's smart daughter failed to get into every school in her list including the "safe" ones. Was attending a community college and was very depressed.

    Went on to mention negroes who'd gotten Cs were getting into Berkeley, so maybe this was a California state thing, but between that and what I've heard about changes in admissions policies we could be seeing the destruction of the only state school that routinely competed with the best of the private R1 universities.

    In computer science for a long time there's been only four top schools in the world, it, Stanford which is also messing with its admissions as I recall reading recently, CMU which has a math department derived CS department that last I checked does its own admissions, and MIT. In the 1980s MIT had a two year flub in admissions policy, new professional admissions director actually followed the faculty's Official policies, and ... it wasn't pretty.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Arclight

    This goes back to my other comment about not wanting my kids to head for career paths that really require academic credentials from a select basket of schools to get on the ladder – it’s a greased pole for whites now, so it’s essentially a lottery and I have never lived my life hoping the right numbers would come up.

    There are still plenty of opportunities in the private sector if you get into an industry where your own brains and hustle count for a lot and boutique businesses thrive. Frankly I think this is where most talented white kids are headed as it becomes increasingly clear to parents that bigger companies/industries that need to toe the line on DIE have very limited opportunities and they need to find other paths to follow if they want to be in the top 20% or better of the income distribution.

  175. @Corvinus
    @Verymuchalive

    "You dishonestly compare Somalis ( average IQ 68 ), a country of violent retards, with Italians, Poles and Hungarians."

    That would be a straw man on your part. I never made that comparison. Those three groups you listed were considered the Somalis of the time period (early 1900's) by nativists, who were WASPS. They wanted no part with inferior peoples. Remember, the Italians were considered "Sicilian gangsters"--nearly all unassailable retards with nothing to contribute to American society but violence.

    So, what changed? Magic dirt?

    Replies: @Nico

    “You dishonestly compare Somalis ( average IQ 68 ), a country of violent retards, with Italians, Poles and Hungarians.”

    That would be a straw man on your part. I never made that comparison. Those three groups you listed were considered the Somalis of the time period (early 1900’s) by nativists, who were WASPS.

    You did make the comparison before, and you’re just making it more clearly now.

    • Thanks: Verymuchalive
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Nico

    Now you’re just being disingenuous.

  176. @Verymuchalive
    @Corvinus

    Crowman


    “Sweden was the perfect country and they had to FU** it up with nonwhites.“
    That’s absolutely batshit insane for you to say.

     
    But not batshite insane for the Prime Minister of Sweden to say.
    https://hungary.postsen.com/world/50207/Swedish-Prime-Minister-We-do-not-want-Somali-cities-in-Sweden.html

    The Swedish prime minister would abolish the ethnic ghettos in the big cities, which are hotbeds of organized crime.

    When even the limp biscuit left-liberal Swedish Prime Minister has to admit this, the evidence is overwhelming. It is extremely evident in the figures for rape and sex assault.
    https://unherd.com/2021/04/swedens-migrant-rape-crisis/

    The researchers found that, within that time-frame, a total of 3,039 offenders were convicted of rape+ against a woman in Sweden — nearly all of whom (99.7%) were men. According to the researchers, Swedish-born offenders with Swedish-born parents accounted for 40.8% of the offenders. But, strikingly, almost half of the offenders were born outside of Sweden (47.7%). Of those foreign-born offenders, 34.5% were from the Middle East/North Africa, with 19.1% hailing from the rest of Africa. As a percentage of all convicted perpetrators, therefore, 16.4% were foreign-born individuals from the Middle East/North Africa, and 9.1% were foreign-born individuals from Africa (excluding North Africa).

    Crowman

    But if you want to play that stupid game, the U.S. was the perfect country until Eastern and Southern Europeans showed up on our shores.
     
    You dishonestly compare Somalis ( average IQ 68 ), a country of violent retards, with Italians, Poles and Hungarians. Southern and Eastern Europeans have nearly all assimilated into American society and many have made outstanding contributions to it. Somalis and their like are nearly all unassimilable retards with nothing to contribute to American society but violence.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @That Would Be Telling

    Southern and Eastern Europeans have nearly all assimilated into American society and many have made outstanding contributions to it. Somalis and their like are nearly all unassimilable retards with nothing to contribute to American society but violence.

    While you’re right about “violent retards” from places like Somalia, a strong case can be made that America was lost, failed to “secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity” when it started admitting large numbers of people from outside the Hajnal line or thereabouts. Starting with the Irish who had pathologies our WASP leadership found hard to comprehend, and then most certainly Southern and Eastern Europeans.

    No, our magic dirt did not work for them, instead they changed America, mostly the urban part of it of course, and far for the worse. As one extreme example read up on the Curley Effect, an example of why the city of Boston stayed very small compared to many if not most other big cities that absorbed neighboring cities and towns. As another, see the Irish role in the 1965 immigration bill.

    The Eastern Europeans of course included a lot of revolutionary Jews, substantially more radical than many of their Central European brethren, the latter nonetheless including Marx, Freud (maybe), and Franz “Blank Slate” Boas, see the chapters devoted to the latter two in The Culture of Critique and how what they did was neither medicine nor SCIENCE!!!.

    We’ve also heard, I’ve not tried to run this down, that Lincoln was influenced by some revolutionaries who fled their failures in 1848; I’m not sure where they came from. See who was responsible for the violence that prompted our 1920s immigration crackdown.

    TL;DR: to the extent these peoples eventually assimilated which is hard to judge after the (((New Left))) gained control of the country in the 1960s-70s, it was not before they fatally wounded the Republic.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
    @That Would Be Telling

    There is more than a little truth in your argument, but, between the 1924 and 1965 Immigration Acts, America was consolidating and these Europeans were assimilating into white American Society. The 1965 Act changed that drastically, and white Americans live with the consequences.

    , @Corvinus
    @That Would Be Telling

    “While you’re right about “violent retards” from places like Somalia”

    You’re way over generalizing here.

    “a strong case can be made that America was lost, failed to “secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity” when it started admitting large numbers of people from outside the Hajnal line or thereabouts”

    According to Who/Whom? The fact of the matter is that future generations of Americans would decide, as ordained by the Founders, who and who would not be part of our political and social world. Standards and attitudes change. That’s what U.S. is all about.

    “Starting with the Irish who had pathologies our WASP leadership found hard to comprehend, and then most certainly Southern and Eastern Europeans.”

    Clearly this is anti-white rhetoric. I thought we can’t afford to be causing rifts between white ethnic groups. Yet here you are alienating your brethren.

    “to the extent these peoples eventually assimilated which is hard to judge after the (((New Left))) gained control of the country in the 1960s-70s, “

    JFC, it is not hard to judge at all. You’re just clowning here.

    , @Curle
    @That Would Be Telling

    “ when it started admitting large numbers of people from outside the Hajnal line . . .”

    OT - If you want to see an example of bat-shit crazy Jewish in-group self-absorption check out the Hajnal line Wikipedia site. Another western/intellectual concept the veracity of which is to be determined according to article editors by how it supports/undermines Jewish in-group morality tales. Is it possible to die from overexposure to someone else’s tedious in group obsessions? If so we are doomed.

  177. @Corvinus
    @Curle

    "Whatever number is small enough to render insignificant any hostility to the rest of us that would be amplified by their numbers."

    So you really don't know. It's an arbitrary figure, one based on the perception that a group if it became large enough would be perpetually hostile to other groups. Do normies and Generation Z generally share your fear of Jewish dominance and power?

    Besides, how do you propose to put into place your plan AND enforce it? We are all ears...

    "As a general rule I don’t think nations should have unassimilated minorities in significant numbers."

    In essence, your opinion. You do realize that the U.S. was found by competing minority groups--the Puritans, the Dutch, Scots-Irish, etc.

    "All groups should have their own country where they dominate and control."

    We do. It's called the U.S. as Americans.

    "Rootless and nomadic cosmopolitans should become agrarians."

    Another opinion. We appreciate it.

    Replies: @Curle

    “You do realize that the U.S. was found by competing minority groups–the Puritans, the Dutch, Scots-Irish, etc.”

    That’s not a bad ethnic scope metric, ethnic groups that fought the Spanish/French in the 16th/17th centuries. Though I’m a little more liberal than you, I’d include most countries that were under Papacy in the Middle Ages.

    Thanks for the ‘do you realize?’ comment.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Curle

    The U.S began as unassimilated minorities in large numbers. Each group had fears of one another. Then they immersed themselves into the body politic. Other unassimilated minorities then entered our shores—the Japanese and the Chinese come to mind—who then found ways to become integrated into the dominant society.

    Your own ancestors to the States weee no different.

    Replies: @stari_momak, @Curle

  178. @Nico
    @Ron Unz

    Interesting that Asians excelled so much in Chemistry, one field of science which has been by and large “mapped out” if we’re speaking of “pure” chemistry. (Of course, we still do come across periodic surprises, as the late Karen Wetterhahn’s family can attest.)

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Anonymous

    Of course, [in chemistry] we still do come across periodic surprises, as the late Karen Wetterhahn’s family can attest.

    The big surprise there, and it shouldn’t have been so big, was how very poorly standard gloves stopped the incredibly toxic compound dimethylmercury. Plus I have no freaking idea why it became a standard internal reference for NMR measurements, it’s so obviously a bad idea. Then again, at least one of my chemistry professors joked about the short lives of chemists, one nonetheless living long enough to get two well earned Nobel Prizes and is now 81.

  179. @Johann Ricke
    @Curle


    What do conquerors typically do with enemy populations still under their control while preparing to retreat from that very enemy? Create a bigger army on your rear? Isn’t this the matter discussed, and not resolved, in the ‘80s? That Hitler began killing the captives once the war in the East was lost.
     
    Hitler started ordering mass killings of Jews from the very beginning. Three months into his invasion of Russia, Jews were getting slaughtered en masse:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar

    Note that killing civilians while being pushed back by a superior enemy was a very dangerous move. At minimum, the traditional remedy for such an act was repayment in full. By doing what he did, Hitler put the entire German people at risk. If the Russians had merely killed one German for every Russian killed, post-war Germany would have lost 1/3 of its population. If they had repaid with interest, the German people in East Germany would have ceased to exist.

    The principal reason the Germans in the Russian zone weren't butchered* to the last man, woman and child? Stalin was a traditional empire-builder. He viewed the people under him as interchangeable. Russians, Germans, Czechs - they were all fungible to him.

    * There was no real need to do a traditional Roman-style massacre.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(70_CE)#Destruction_of_Jerusalem

    He could simply have had the East German population walk to Siberia. Something similar was imposed on rebellious Circassians in the Tsarist era, with far less provocation:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassian_genocide

    Replies: @Curle, @Anonymous

    Nice to know you’ve convinced yourself of a theory that’s been debated for decades. A partial summary (from Wikipedia even) below. I’m using their summary because I only intend to show that the issue remains unsettled.

    You can also read the attached and bolster your argument with an authoritative dismissal.

    https://archive.org/details/twistedroadtoaus00schl

    From Wikipedia

    Extreme functionalists such as Martin Broszat believe that the Nazi leadership had nothing to do with initiating the Holocaust and that the entire initiative came from the lower ranks of the German bureaucracy. This philosophy is what is known as the bottom-up approach of the Holocaust. Gotz Aly has made much of documents from the bureaucracy of the German Government-General of Poland arguing that the population of Poland would have to decrease by 25% to allow the Polish economy to grow. Criticism centers on the idea that this explanation does not really show why the Nazis would deport Jews from France and the Netherlands to death camps in Poland if it was Poland the Nazis were concerned with, and why the Jews of Poland were targeted instead of the random sample of 25% of the Polish population. Additional criticism of functionalism points out that Hitler and other Nazi leaders delayed railcars providing supplies to front line troops in the Soviet Union so that Jews could be deported by rail from the USSR to death camps thus demonstrating the pursuit of genocidal policies over pragmatic wartime actions.[citation needed]Hans Mommsen was a leading expert on Nazi Germany and the Holocaust.[15] He argued that Hitler was a “weak dictator” who rather than acting decisively, reacted to various social pressures. Mommsen believed that Nazi Germany was not a totalitarian state.[15] Together with his friend Broszat, Mommsen developed a structuralist interpretation of the Third Reich, that saw the Nazi state as a chaotic collection of rival bureaucracies engaged in endless power struggles and the Final Solution as a result of the “cumulative radicalization” of the German state as opposed to a long-term plan on the part of Adolf Hitler.[15]

    Moderate functionalists, such as Karl Schleunes and Christopher Browning, believe that the rivalry within the unstable Nazi power structure provided the major driving force behind the Holocaust. Moderate functionalists believe that the Nazis aimed to expel all of the Jews from Europe, but only after the failure of these schemes did they resort to genocide. This is sometimes referred to as the “twisted road” to genocide, after a book by Schleunes called The Twisted Road to Auschwitz.[16]

  180. CCG says:
    @Simon in London
    @neutral

    I'm consistently against invasions. The USA has done a lot of bad things, including invasions. Including inciting the Maidan uprising. It was still bad for Russia to attack Ukraine, causing immense suffering. It's bad when the USA does it (Iraq), it's bad when Russia does it. This is completely different from when Russia intervened in Syria, where Russian intervention reduced net suffering/harm.

    Ukraine should certainly seek to maintain independence from the USA and its moral degeneracy.

    "in a few decades they all will end up with third world demographics" - Some recently liberalised countries like Ireland are following that path. I've not seen much sign of it with eg Poland though. I certainly agree that US influence is harmful. It's not all-powerful though.

    Replies: @CCG

    I’ve not seen much sign of it with eg Poland though.

    You’ve clearly never heard of Karolina Goswami. She’s a Polish woman (she claims to be a “responsible Christian” in her videos, even though it’s obvious to everyone that she never was) married to an Assamese Hindu Brahmin, and she’s desperately trying to make Dharmic Dindus appear relevant and desirable in Poland.

  181. @anonymouseperson
    @Post-Postmodernist

    Pretty much every single Jewish organization in the world outside of Israel is 100% for open borders, mass immigration and diversity (except to Israel).

    Replies: @Nachum

    In many cases, including to Israel.

    Israel’s population, which is over half the world population of Jews, is not on board.

  182. Anonymous[258] • Disclaimer says:
    @Johann Ricke
    @Curle


    What do conquerors typically do with enemy populations still under their control while preparing to retreat from that very enemy? Create a bigger army on your rear? Isn’t this the matter discussed, and not resolved, in the ‘80s? That Hitler began killing the captives once the war in the East was lost.
     
    Hitler started ordering mass killings of Jews from the very beginning. Three months into his invasion of Russia, Jews were getting slaughtered en masse:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar

    Note that killing civilians while being pushed back by a superior enemy was a very dangerous move. At minimum, the traditional remedy for such an act was repayment in full. By doing what he did, Hitler put the entire German people at risk. If the Russians had merely killed one German for every Russian killed, post-war Germany would have lost 1/3 of its population. If they had repaid with interest, the German people in East Germany would have ceased to exist.

    The principal reason the Germans in the Russian zone weren't butchered* to the last man, woman and child? Stalin was a traditional empire-builder. He viewed the people under him as interchangeable. Russians, Germans, Czechs - they were all fungible to him.

    * There was no real need to do a traditional Roman-style massacre.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(70_CE)#Destruction_of_Jerusalem

    He could simply have had the East German population walk to Siberia. Something similar was imposed on rebellious Circassians in the Tsarist era, with far less provocation:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassian_genocide

    Replies: @Curle, @Anonymous

    I’m not sure if it was equivalent, but there was a massive “ethnic cleansing” of Germans from Slavic countries. And it was approved by the western Allies.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944%E2%80%931950)

    Were you unaware of this?

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    @Anonymous


    I’m not sure if it was equivalent, but there was a massive “ethnic cleansing” of Germans from Slavic countries. And it was approved by the western Allies.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944%E2%80%931950)

    Were you unaware of this?
     
    If you add up the total deaths from that effort (even if you use the number inflated by the German government in order to justify a reversion to prewar boundaries), it's in the region of 1/10 of the 20m dead in the Soviet Union alone.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_estimates_of_the_flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans#Population_balance_method_versus_counts_of_confirmed_deaths

    Ingo Haar who is currently on the faculty of the University of Vienna said on 14 November 2006 in Deutschlandfunk that about 500,000 to 600,000 victims are realistic, based on a German governmental studies initiated in the 1960s.[8] Haar said these numbers were compiled from actually reported deaths, while higher figures of about two million deaths were estimated with the population balance method in a German governmental study of 1958.[8] Haar said the higher estimates must be seen in the historical context of the 1950s, when the government of West Germany needed high numbers for political reasons.[8] During the Cold War West Germany wanted to revert to prewar borders in Central Europe. Military historian Rüdiger Overmans said on 6 December 2006 in Deutschlandfunk that only the about 500,000 registered deaths could be counted, and that the unaccounted cases calculated with the population balance method need be confirmed by further research.[9] However, on 29 November 2006 State Secretary in the German Federal Ministry of the Interior, Christoph Bergner, reaffirmed the position of the German government that 2 million civilians perished in the flight and expulsion from Central and Eastern Europe.[10] The German Red Cross in 2005 maintained that death toll in the expulsions is 2,251,500 persons.[11]
     
    If they aimed to balance the scales, that was an exceedingly poor effort. Germany showed at Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka what could be achieved by a small cadre of committed personnel, without inflicting upon large numbers of troops the cumbersome task of butchering civilians and disposing of their remains. Stalin could have reconstructed and used the self-same facilities, if he so chose.

    That no one attempted anything similar is evidence that no one shared Germany's racial obsessions. Today's Germany should thank Providence that a single German is left alive on German soil. Germany's neighbors expelled their German minorities to end the threat of German fifth columnists who played so large a part in the deaths of millions of co-nationals in favor of their conquering German co-ethnics. Germany's perennial complaints about these expulsions are unwelcome and a constant reminder of German indifference to the human wreckage they left behind.

    Replies: @Curle

  183. @Corvinus
    @Curle

    You are overgeneralizing of course.

    But why must normies care? It’s YOUR obsession. Exactly like black women and their hair.

    So what do you think should be the appropriate number for Jews in the banking, legal, and entertainment industries?

    Replies: @Curle, @ATBOTL

    So what do you think should be the appropriate number for Jews in the banking, legal, and entertainment industries?

    The same number as white Europeans have these positions in Israel.

    BTW, why are all my comments pointing out the fact that Europeans are a different race from MENA people getting censored? Why is this such a big taboo around here? Do you people really think you can force young racially conscious whites to think arabs and jews are “fellow whites?” Pro-tip — you have already lost the debate.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @ATBOTL

    “The same number as white Europeans have these positions in Israel.”

    So you’re all about quotas. Good to know. So, how do you plan on implementing it?

    “BTW, why are all my comments pointing out the fact that Europeans are a different race from MENA people getting censored?”

    Probably because you’re not accurate.

  184. Anonymous[258] • Disclaimer says:
    @Nico
    @Ron Unz

    Interesting that Asians excelled so much in Chemistry, one field of science which has been by and large “mapped out” if we’re speaking of “pure” chemistry. (Of course, we still do come across periodic surprises, as the late Karen Wetterhahn’s family can attest.)

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Anonymous

    I have a Ph.D. in chemistry. And I’ve never thought of chemistry as “mapped out”. It’s a very frequent exercise to make new solid state materials and organic chemicals, many of which have novel structures and properties.

    I’m also not clear what you mean by “pure” chemistry. That term is not used from my experience. Perhaps you mean theoretical chemistry? Even so, there’s still lots of work being done in theory.

    Physicists will occasionally point to Schroedinger’s Equation and say it’s all settled. But ask a physicist to make a novel material or a cheaper route to a known one. They have zero clue. Because it turns out that more empirical insights (to include even periodic trends) are what are actually useful. Even within theory, there’s a lot of work to try to make things calculatable. (It ends up being a massively non-trivial multi-body problem.)

    • Thanks: houston 1992, bomag
  185. @ginger bread man
    @Gross Terry

    Possible. There may be some reversion to the mean with intermarriage and non-intelligent non Jewish spouse.

    On the other hand, a few years ago I saw a stat that the religious group with the highest SAT scores was Unitarians, followed by Hindus, then Jews. Unitarians have a high percentage of intermarried Jews who didn’t care about their Judaism, but could only tolerate Christianity Lite.

    Replies: @choxopox, @Gross Terry

    A White Unitarian once told me about the problem of Jewnitarians.

    -Discard

  186. @ginger bread man
    @Gross Terry

    Possible. There may be some reversion to the mean with intermarriage and non-intelligent non Jewish spouse.

    On the other hand, a few years ago I saw a stat that the religious group with the highest SAT scores was Unitarians, followed by Hindus, then Jews. Unitarians have a high percentage of intermarried Jews who didn’t care about their Judaism, but could only tolerate Christianity Lite.

    Replies: @choxopox, @Gross Terry

    Unitarianism is just a highly self-selected group of philosophically minded people. The idea that crypto-mischlings are juicing its numbers is much less likely than the fact a Unitarian has to be unsatisfied not only with plain “nothing in particular”, but find even “atheism” too galling for his particular interests, means its going to select for particular and discerning people. Unitarianism is just as much Islam-Lite as Christianity-lite.

  187. @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    ** “The general topic of Jewish success disproportionate to their numbers”

    So what ought to be the “right” number of Jews? Perhaps they’ve earned it, and there is a certain level of jealousy due to that success?

    Furthermore, why not make a comparative analysis for Jews and EACH European ethnic group when it comes to their success in the business, legal, entertainment, and/or athletic fields? Why it is always a comparison between Jews and Gentiles?

    Asking for a (white) friend…

    **Do normies or Generation Z even care? Should they?

    Replies: @EddieSpaghetti

    Corvinus asked:

    “So what ought to be the “right” number of Jews?”

    I do not know what the right number of Jewish students at Harvard should be. However, I do know, from the work of Ron Unz, that a very high achieving Jewish high school student is about 15 times more likely to be accepted to attend Harvard than a similarly very high achieving non-Jewish white high school student. As such, I do know that the “right” number of non-Jewish white students at Harvard is much higher than the number of non-Jewish white students currently attending.

    By the way Corvinus, as someone with journalistic pretensions, do you find it strange that after Colin Kaepernick took a knee WHILE ON THE JOB, his action was defended by many as an exercise in free speech, yet, after Kyrie Irving, ON HIS OWN FREE TIME, did nothing more than recommend a movie that many Jews do not like, he was suspended, forced to repent and required to donate $500,000 to the ADL?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @EddieSpaghetti

    “By the way Corvinus, as someone with journalistic pretensions, do you find it strange that after Colin Kaepernick took a knee WHILE ON THE JOB, his action was defended by many as an exercise in free speech, yet, after Kyrie Irving, ON HIS OWN FREE TIME, did nothing more than recommend a movie that many Jews do not like, he was suspended, forced to repent and required to donate $500,000 to the ADL”

    Kyrie is a public figure like Colin. So his actions regarding the JQ have consequences. Remember, Colin got blacklisted from the NFL, so he also got his “punishment”.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  188. @That Would Be Telling
    @Verymuchalive


    Southern and Eastern Europeans have nearly all assimilated into American society and many have made outstanding contributions to it. Somalis and their like are nearly all unassimilable retards with nothing to contribute to American society but violence.
     
    While you're right about "violent retards" from places like Somalia, a strong case can be made that America was lost, failed to "secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity" when it started admitting large numbers of people from outside the Hajnal line or thereabouts. Starting with the Irish who had pathologies our WASP leadership found hard to comprehend, and then most certainly Southern and Eastern Europeans.

    No, our magic dirt did not work for them, instead they changed America, mostly the urban part of it of course, and far for the worse. As one extreme example read up on the Curley Effect, an example of why the city of Boston stayed very small compared to many if not most other big cities that absorbed neighboring cities and towns. As another, see the Irish role in the 1965 immigration bill.

    The Eastern Europeans of course included a lot of revolutionary Jews, substantially more radical than many of their Central European brethren, the latter nonetheless including Marx, Freud (maybe), and Franz "Blank Slate" Boas, see the chapters devoted to the latter two in The Culture of Critique and how what they did was neither medicine nor SCIENCE!!!.

    We've also heard, I've not tried to run this down, that Lincoln was influenced by some revolutionaries who fled their failures in 1848; I'm not sure where they came from. See who was responsible for the violence that prompted our 1920s immigration crackdown.

    TL;DR: to the extent these peoples eventually assimilated which is hard to judge after the (((New Left))) gained control of the country in the 1960s-70s, it was not before they fatally wounded the Republic.

    Replies: @Verymuchalive, @Corvinus, @Curle

    There is more than a little truth in your argument, but, between the 1924 and 1965 Immigration Acts, America was consolidating and these Europeans were assimilating into white American Society. The 1965 Act changed that drastically, and white Americans live with the consequences.

    • Disagree: That Would Be Telling
  189. @Twinkie
    @ScarletNumber


    New Jersey
     
    New Jersey, did someone say New Jersey?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/03/01/student-school-hijab-maplewood-new-jersey/

    She pushed back her student’s hijab. Was it a mistake or an act of hate?
    Evidence of antisemitism competed against allegations of Islamophobia as an online debate divided this suburban community along racial and religious lines.
     
    Almost a comical article. A Jewish teacher at a public school tried to pull back what she thought was a hoodie of a Muslim girl. The girl claimed her Hijab was forcibly removed, the father of the girl launched anti-Jewish invectives and sued the district (and got several hundreds of thousands of dollars), the teacher was put on leave and her life destroyed, the mother privately told the teacher that the girl overreacted and that she was actually the girl's favorite teacher, a female Muslim Olympic fencer who was a friend of the teacher (and whom the teacher had cited as a shining example of womanhood) turned on her and launched a social media mob to fire her, etc.

    What. A. Train. Wreck.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Prester John, @Anon

    Teachers should not be grabbing the clothes of students anyway.

  190. @Nico
    @Corvinus


    “You dishonestly compare Somalis ( average IQ 68 ), a country of violent retards, with Italians, Poles and Hungarians.”

    That would be a straw man on your part. I never made that comparison. Those three groups you listed were considered the Somalis of the time period (early 1900’s) by nativists, who were WASPS.
     
    You did make the comparison before, and you’re just making it more clearly now.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    Now you’re just being disingenuous.

  191. @ATBOTL
    @Corvinus


    So what do you think should be the appropriate number for Jews in the banking, legal, and entertainment industries?
     
    The same number as white Europeans have these positions in Israel.

    BTW, why are all my comments pointing out the fact that Europeans are a different race from MENA people getting censored? Why is this such a big taboo around here? Do you people really think you can force young racially conscious whites to think arabs and jews are "fellow whites?" Pro-tip -- you have already lost the debate.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “The same number as white Europeans have these positions in Israel.”

    So you’re all about quotas. Good to know. So, how do you plan on implementing it?

    “BTW, why are all my comments pointing out the fact that Europeans are a different race from MENA people getting censored?”

    Probably because you’re not accurate.

  192. @That Would Be Telling
    @Verymuchalive


    Southern and Eastern Europeans have nearly all assimilated into American society and many have made outstanding contributions to it. Somalis and their like are nearly all unassimilable retards with nothing to contribute to American society but violence.
     
    While you're right about "violent retards" from places like Somalia, a strong case can be made that America was lost, failed to "secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity" when it started admitting large numbers of people from outside the Hajnal line or thereabouts. Starting with the Irish who had pathologies our WASP leadership found hard to comprehend, and then most certainly Southern and Eastern Europeans.

    No, our magic dirt did not work for them, instead they changed America, mostly the urban part of it of course, and far for the worse. As one extreme example read up on the Curley Effect, an example of why the city of Boston stayed very small compared to many if not most other big cities that absorbed neighboring cities and towns. As another, see the Irish role in the 1965 immigration bill.

    The Eastern Europeans of course included a lot of revolutionary Jews, substantially more radical than many of their Central European brethren, the latter nonetheless including Marx, Freud (maybe), and Franz "Blank Slate" Boas, see the chapters devoted to the latter two in The Culture of Critique and how what they did was neither medicine nor SCIENCE!!!.

    We've also heard, I've not tried to run this down, that Lincoln was influenced by some revolutionaries who fled their failures in 1848; I'm not sure where they came from. See who was responsible for the violence that prompted our 1920s immigration crackdown.

    TL;DR: to the extent these peoples eventually assimilated which is hard to judge after the (((New Left))) gained control of the country in the 1960s-70s, it was not before they fatally wounded the Republic.

    Replies: @Verymuchalive, @Corvinus, @Curle

    “While you’re right about “violent retards” from places like Somalia”

    You’re way over generalizing here.

    “a strong case can be made that America was lost, failed to “secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity” when it started admitting large numbers of people from outside the Hajnal line or thereabouts”

    According to Who/Whom? The fact of the matter is that future generations of Americans would decide, as ordained by the Founders, who and who would not be part of our political and social world. Standards and attitudes change. That’s what U.S. is all about.

    “Starting with the Irish who had pathologies our WASP leadership found hard to comprehend, and then most certainly Southern and Eastern Europeans.”

    Clearly this is anti-white rhetoric. I thought we can’t afford to be causing rifts between white ethnic groups. Yet here you are alienating your brethren.

    “to the extent these peoples eventually assimilated which is hard to judge after the (((New Left))) gained control of the country in the 1960s-70s, “

    JFC, it is not hard to judge at all. You’re just clowning here.

  193. Yeah, meant to forward this to you, Steve, sorry. Figured you’d find it on your own.

    My comment to it basically was, I’m not sure I can agree with the very end: Right side of history? Apparently not.

    That got me some pushback from some Jews who insisted that getting the blacks their rights was always right. Me: Even assuming that’s true, couldn’t someone else have done it? Did Jews have to be so out front on it? That failed to computer for him

    Back to the end of the piece: Ironic? There were those- including many Jews, albeit not the Important ones, who saw it coming fifty-plus years ago. And you’ll forgive them (not to mention white gentiles, although obviously We’re Not Supposed To care about them) a touch of schadenfreude and talk of roosting chickens.

    One can only pray it doesn’t go farther than that, and that Jews, at some point in the future, don’t have to make a serious reckoning of where they went wrong from about, oh, 1920 to 2020.

    Oh, who am I kidding? Even if God forbid it *does* go disastrously south, it’s not like most Jews will take any of the obvious lessons. We’ve seen it before.

  194. @Curle
    @Corvinus

    “You do realize that the U.S. was found by competing minority groups–the Puritans, the Dutch, Scots-Irish, etc.”

    That’s not a bad ethnic scope metric, ethnic groups that fought the Spanish/French in the 16th/17th centuries. Though I’m a little more liberal than you, I’d include most countries that were under Papacy in the Middle Ages.

    Thanks for the ‘do you realize?’ comment.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    The U.S began as unassimilated minorities in large numbers. Each group had fears of one another. Then they immersed themselves into the body politic. Other unassimilated minorities then entered our shores—the Japanese and the Chinese come to mind—who then found ways to become integrated into the dominant society.

    Your own ancestors to the States weee no different.

    • Replies: @stari_momak
    @Corvinus

    This is simply not true, esp. when using as you must the modern sense of 'minority'. The vast majority of the colonists were of British origin. A majority were of English origin. American Indians and Africans and their descendents simply did not count in the political nation.

    Read Federalist 2.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Curle
    @Corvinus

    “The U.S began as unassimilated minorities in large numbers. Each group had fears of one another.”

    Keep grasping at straws. It’s what you do best.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  195. @Anonymous
    @Johann Ricke

    I'm not sure if it was equivalent, but there was a massive "ethnic cleansing" of Germans from Slavic countries. And it was approved by the western Allies.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944%E2%80%931950)

    Were you unaware of this?

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

    I’m not sure if it was equivalent, but there was a massive “ethnic cleansing” of Germans from Slavic countries. And it was approved by the western Allies.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944%E2%80%931950)

    Were you unaware of this?

    If you add up the total deaths from that effort (even if you use the number inflated by the German government in order to justify a reversion to prewar boundaries), it’s in the region of 1/10 of the 20m dead in the Soviet Union alone.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_estimates_of_the_flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans#Population_balance_method_versus_counts_of_confirmed_deaths

    Ingo Haar who is currently on the faculty of the University of Vienna said on 14 November 2006 in Deutschlandfunk that about 500,000 to 600,000 victims are realistic, based on a German governmental studies initiated in the 1960s.[8] Haar said these numbers were compiled from actually reported deaths, while higher figures of about two million deaths were estimated with the population balance method in a German governmental study of 1958.[8] Haar said the higher estimates must be seen in the historical context of the 1950s, when the government of West Germany needed high numbers for political reasons.[8] During the Cold War West Germany wanted to revert to prewar borders in Central Europe. Military historian Rüdiger Overmans said on 6 December 2006 in Deutschlandfunk that only the about 500,000 registered deaths could be counted, and that the unaccounted cases calculated with the population balance method need be confirmed by further research.[9] However, on 29 November 2006 State Secretary in the German Federal Ministry of the Interior, Christoph Bergner, reaffirmed the position of the German government that 2 million civilians perished in the flight and expulsion from Central and Eastern Europe.[10] The German Red Cross in 2005 maintained that death toll in the expulsions is 2,251,500 persons.[11]

    If they aimed to balance the scales, that was an exceedingly poor effort. Germany showed at Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka what could be achieved by a small cadre of committed personnel, without inflicting upon large numbers of troops the cumbersome task of butchering civilians and disposing of their remains. Stalin could have reconstructed and used the self-same facilities, if he so chose.

    That no one attempted anything similar is evidence that no one shared Germany’s racial obsessions. Today’s Germany should thank Providence that a single German is left alive on German soil. Germany’s neighbors expelled their German minorities to end the threat of German fifth columnists who played so large a part in the deaths of millions of co-nationals in favor of their conquering German co-ethnics. Germany’s perennial complaints about these expulsions are unwelcome and a constant reminder of German indifference to the human wreckage they left behind.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Johann Ricke

    “That no one attempted anything similar”

    If by similar you mean to exclude mass starvation. Which is worse in your mind, the Nazi methods or the favored Soviet system, death by orchestrated starvation and bullet in the back of the head?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

    And of course there were the Soviet concentration camps/gulags. Is being worked to death under freezing conditions a more merciful death?

    Ever wonder if the Soviets regretted exporting revolution to Germany when the great reaction came? No doubt the Spartacus League seemed a good idea at the time.

  196. @That Would Be Telling
    @Verymuchalive


    Southern and Eastern Europeans have nearly all assimilated into American society and many have made outstanding contributions to it. Somalis and their like are nearly all unassimilable retards with nothing to contribute to American society but violence.
     
    While you're right about "violent retards" from places like Somalia, a strong case can be made that America was lost, failed to "secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity" when it started admitting large numbers of people from outside the Hajnal line or thereabouts. Starting with the Irish who had pathologies our WASP leadership found hard to comprehend, and then most certainly Southern and Eastern Europeans.

    No, our magic dirt did not work for them, instead they changed America, mostly the urban part of it of course, and far for the worse. As one extreme example read up on the Curley Effect, an example of why the city of Boston stayed very small compared to many if not most other big cities that absorbed neighboring cities and towns. As another, see the Irish role in the 1965 immigration bill.

    The Eastern Europeans of course included a lot of revolutionary Jews, substantially more radical than many of their Central European brethren, the latter nonetheless including Marx, Freud (maybe), and Franz "Blank Slate" Boas, see the chapters devoted to the latter two in The Culture of Critique and how what they did was neither medicine nor SCIENCE!!!.

    We've also heard, I've not tried to run this down, that Lincoln was influenced by some revolutionaries who fled their failures in 1848; I'm not sure where they came from. See who was responsible for the violence that prompted our 1920s immigration crackdown.

    TL;DR: to the extent these peoples eventually assimilated which is hard to judge after the (((New Left))) gained control of the country in the 1960s-70s, it was not before they fatally wounded the Republic.

    Replies: @Verymuchalive, @Corvinus, @Curle

    “ when it started admitting large numbers of people from outside the Hajnal line . . .”

    OT – If you want to see an example of bat-shit crazy Jewish in-group self-absorption check out the Hajnal line Wikipedia site. Another western/intellectual concept the veracity of which is to be determined according to article editors by how it supports/undermines Jewish in-group morality tales. Is it possible to die from overexposure to someone else’s tedious in group obsessions? If so we are doomed.

  197. @Johann Ricke
    @Anonymous


    I’m not sure if it was equivalent, but there was a massive “ethnic cleansing” of Germans from Slavic countries. And it was approved by the western Allies.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944%E2%80%931950)

    Were you unaware of this?
     
    If you add up the total deaths from that effort (even if you use the number inflated by the German government in order to justify a reversion to prewar boundaries), it's in the region of 1/10 of the 20m dead in the Soviet Union alone.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_estimates_of_the_flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans#Population_balance_method_versus_counts_of_confirmed_deaths

    Ingo Haar who is currently on the faculty of the University of Vienna said on 14 November 2006 in Deutschlandfunk that about 500,000 to 600,000 victims are realistic, based on a German governmental studies initiated in the 1960s.[8] Haar said these numbers were compiled from actually reported deaths, while higher figures of about two million deaths were estimated with the population balance method in a German governmental study of 1958.[8] Haar said the higher estimates must be seen in the historical context of the 1950s, when the government of West Germany needed high numbers for political reasons.[8] During the Cold War West Germany wanted to revert to prewar borders in Central Europe. Military historian Rüdiger Overmans said on 6 December 2006 in Deutschlandfunk that only the about 500,000 registered deaths could be counted, and that the unaccounted cases calculated with the population balance method need be confirmed by further research.[9] However, on 29 November 2006 State Secretary in the German Federal Ministry of the Interior, Christoph Bergner, reaffirmed the position of the German government that 2 million civilians perished in the flight and expulsion from Central and Eastern Europe.[10] The German Red Cross in 2005 maintained that death toll in the expulsions is 2,251,500 persons.[11]
     
    If they aimed to balance the scales, that was an exceedingly poor effort. Germany showed at Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka what could be achieved by a small cadre of committed personnel, without inflicting upon large numbers of troops the cumbersome task of butchering civilians and disposing of their remains. Stalin could have reconstructed and used the self-same facilities, if he so chose.

    That no one attempted anything similar is evidence that no one shared Germany's racial obsessions. Today's Germany should thank Providence that a single German is left alive on German soil. Germany's neighbors expelled their German minorities to end the threat of German fifth columnists who played so large a part in the deaths of millions of co-nationals in favor of their conquering German co-ethnics. Germany's perennial complaints about these expulsions are unwelcome and a constant reminder of German indifference to the human wreckage they left behind.

    Replies: @Curle

    “That no one attempted anything similar”

    If by similar you mean to exclude mass starvation. Which is worse in your mind, the Nazi methods or the favored Soviet system, death by orchestrated starvation and bullet in the back of the head?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

    And of course there were the Soviet concentration camps/gulags. Is being worked to death under freezing conditions a more merciful death?

    Ever wonder if the Soviets regretted exporting revolution to Germany when the great reaction came? No doubt the Spartacus League seemed a good idea at the time.

  198. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    Russia is not the Whitopia of your dreams.


    Now, up to 20 percent of the population [of Moscow] may be Muslim,” he said. Demographers estimate Russia’s Islamic community may account for a majority of the nation’s population by mid-century.
     
    https://www.baptistpress.com/resource-library/news/muslim-population-in-russia-grows-quickly/

    Moscow at Friday prayers:

    https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.18172-8/13528508_10154354489789060_8835416173784078921_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=3z946ZIhggEAX9QqS7x&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfDnY-kD7gNL4a6nBUIPwLxo-Jt8CNs3O8mhjRZzvfgQ8g&oe=6429734B

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Steve Sailer, @stari_momak

    Many of Russia’s Muslims are physically indistinguishable from typical Eastern Europeans. Some are even whiter looking, e.g. Ramzan Kadyrov. The Russian Federation works on a Singaporean model of ‘diversity’. The staatsfolk are the Great Russians, and other peoples respect that, but their own traditions are excepted.

    BTW on Telegram today there was some lovely vid of Buryats (Asian, Buddhist) gently accepting the surrender of a few Borderlanders in Bakhmut (placename ultimately from Turkish word for steppe horse, btw). Those prodigal Little Russians are now safe and will be well treated by their mother.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @stari_momak


    BTW on Telegram today there was some lovely vid of Buryats (Asian, Buddhist) gently accepting the surrender of a few Borderlanders in Bakhmut (placename ultimately from Turkish word for steppe horse, btw). Those prodigal Little Russians are now safe and will be well treated by their mother.
     
    Unless Russia again finds it expedient to abandon them in a retreat.

    Putin lost me when that happened earlier in the war, with entirely predictable results that appear to have included the usual mass graves (we've got a video, it's plausible but not entirely confirmed). "Their mother" doesn't give a damn about them.

    Replies: @stari_momak

  199. @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous


    Oh, yeah, that’s right, Putler and the Russkies doesn’t allow gay marriage, gay adoption, or child transgenderism so we need NATO to liberate them! 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️
     
    That's a--one particular--school in Sweden, and a--one particular--school in Russia.

    Sweden is indeed a good white disaster. A quarter of the people now aren't Swedish or even part Swedish. Though a good chunk of those are "close enough", it has definitely destroyed itself by importing vibrants. Sweden probably needs some sort of nationalist coup/separation now to save it, or even a piece of it.

    But actual Russia is less and less Russian as well. It is more and more full of Muslims--including lots of illegals in from the 'stans--who actually breed, while white/Russian fertility remains in the dumper. By the end of the century, it could well be a big sprawling--majority muslim!--pig pile.

    Putin could have--should have--focused on making sure Russian schools that looked like that, kept looking that. But your imagined whitopia does not interest Putin. He's a guy who fought bloody war--leveled Grozny--to keep the Chechens in Russia. How f'ing stupid is that? And now Putin--not NATO--launched a sleazy 1914 style imperialist war, that is slaughtering thousands of Russia's and Ukraine's young men. Brilliant!

    You guys can keep blathering on idiotically with your Putin fantasies, but he is what he is--a Czar wannabe, a 19th century style Russian imperialist, completely consumed with being a "big man" expanding the scope and power of the Russian Empire and utterly unconcerned with making Russia a great nation for Russians to live in.

    Calling a pig "George Washington" doesn't actually change the character of the pig. It's still goes "oink".

    Replies: @Prester John, @Johann Ricke, @CalCooledge, @stari_momak

    “You guys can keep blathering on idiotically with your Putin fantasies, but he is what he is–a Czar wannabe, a 19th century style Russian imperialist, completely consumed with being a “big man” expanding the scope and power of the Russian Empire and utterly unconcerned with making Russia a great nation for Russians to live in.”

    You seem not to know how utterly messed up Russia was in the 1990s under the gentle guidance of neoliberals. From security (kindergarteners held hostage, apartment buildings blown up …no the Russians didn’t do that to themselves) to life expectancy, everything crashed. Putin literally reversed that. So he and his team have made Russia a lot better for actual Russians (and Tatars and Chechens and Komi etc).

  200. @Corvinus
    @Curle

    The U.S began as unassimilated minorities in large numbers. Each group had fears of one another. Then they immersed themselves into the body politic. Other unassimilated minorities then entered our shores—the Japanese and the Chinese come to mind—who then found ways to become integrated into the dominant society.

    Your own ancestors to the States weee no different.

    Replies: @stari_momak, @Curle

    This is simply not true, esp. when using as you must the modern sense of ‘minority’. The vast majority of the colonists were of British origin. A majority were of English origin. American Indians and Africans and their descendents simply did not count in the political nation.

    Read Federalist 2.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @stari_momak

    “The vast majority of the colonists were of British origin”

    Context is key. And of course you had different groups of English—Puritans, Pilgrims, Scots-Irish, Welsh, families of low and high class.

    https://www.sagepub.com/sites/default/files/upm-binaries/23122_Chapter_3.pdf

    —In commenting about the population composition of the 17th century, historian Mildred Campbell remarked:

    For despite the Dutch on the Hudson, and small groups of Swiss, Swedes, Finns, and French Huguenots pocketed along the coast, the small vessels which set out on the American voyage were chiefly English built and English manned. Their cargoes, moreover, consisted largely of Englishmen and, later and in smaller numbers, Englishwomen. Even the Scots and Irish, who in the next century would crowd the harbors of the New World, were a minority in the first century.

    —By the early 18th century, however, an important change in immigration dramatically altered the population mix. As Stephen Steinberg observed:

    The simple truth is that [the] English were not coming in sufficient numbers to populate the colonies. . . .If there were no compelling “pull” factors luring Englishmen to America, nei- ther were there potent “push” factors. In fact, after 1718 labor shortages at home induced the British government to place restrictions on emigration, especially of skilled artisans and other laborers needed in Britain’s nascent industries. It was this scarcity of emigrants from Britain that induced colonial authorities to permit the immigration of non-English nationalities.

    Pray tell, what is your ancestral background? If you cannot directly trace your family tree on both sides to 1600’s, you have to go back.

    Replies: @Curle, @Charles Erwin Wilson

  201. @Corvinus
    @Curle

    The U.S began as unassimilated minorities in large numbers. Each group had fears of one another. Then they immersed themselves into the body politic. Other unassimilated minorities then entered our shores—the Japanese and the Chinese come to mind—who then found ways to become integrated into the dominant society.

    Your own ancestors to the States weee no different.

    Replies: @stari_momak, @Curle

    “The U.S began as unassimilated minorities in large numbers. Each group had fears of one another.”

    Keep grasping at straws. It’s what you do best.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Curle

    I made two factual statements. Your response? Punt on first down.

  202. @EddieSpaghetti
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus asked:


    "So what ought to be the “right” number of Jews?"

     

    I do not know what the right number of Jewish students at Harvard should be. However, I do know, from the work of Ron Unz, that a very high achieving Jewish high school student is about 15 times more likely to be accepted to attend Harvard than a similarly very high achieving non-Jewish white high school student. As such, I do know that the "right" number of non-Jewish white students at Harvard is much higher than the number of non-Jewish white students currently attending.

    By the way Corvinus, as someone with journalistic pretensions, do you find it strange that after Colin Kaepernick took a knee WHILE ON THE JOB, his action was defended by many as an exercise in free speech, yet, after Kyrie Irving, ON HIS OWN FREE TIME, did nothing more than recommend a movie that many Jews do not like, he was suspended, forced to repent and required to donate $500,000 to the ADL?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “By the way Corvinus, as someone with journalistic pretensions, do you find it strange that after Colin Kaepernick took a knee WHILE ON THE JOB, his action was defended by many as an exercise in free speech, yet, after Kyrie Irving, ON HIS OWN FREE TIME, did nothing more than recommend a movie that many Jews do not like, he was suspended, forced to repent and required to donate $500,000 to the ADL”

    Kyrie is a public figure like Colin. So his actions regarding the JQ have consequences. Remember, Colin got blacklisted from the NFL, so he also got his “punishment”.

    • LOL: EddieSpaghetti
    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Corvinus

    "So his actions regarding the JQ have consequences."

    Read your Newton, bozo. Consequences ALSO have consequences.

  203. @Curle
    @Corvinus

    “The U.S began as unassimilated minorities in large numbers. Each group had fears of one another.”

    Keep grasping at straws. It’s what you do best.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    I made two factual statements. Your response? Punt on first down.

  204. @Corvinus
    @EddieSpaghetti

    “By the way Corvinus, as someone with journalistic pretensions, do you find it strange that after Colin Kaepernick took a knee WHILE ON THE JOB, his action was defended by many as an exercise in free speech, yet, after Kyrie Irving, ON HIS OWN FREE TIME, did nothing more than recommend a movie that many Jews do not like, he was suspended, forced to repent and required to donate $500,000 to the ADL”

    Kyrie is a public figure like Colin. So his actions regarding the JQ have consequences. Remember, Colin got blacklisted from the NFL, so he also got his “punishment”.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “So his actions regarding the JQ have consequences.”

    Read your Newton, bozo. Consequences ALSO have consequences.

  205. @stari_momak
    @Corvinus

    This is simply not true, esp. when using as you must the modern sense of 'minority'. The vast majority of the colonists were of British origin. A majority were of English origin. American Indians and Africans and their descendents simply did not count in the political nation.

    Read Federalist 2.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “The vast majority of the colonists were of British origin”

    Context is key. And of course you had different groups of English—Puritans, Pilgrims, Scots-Irish, Welsh, families of low and high class.

    https://www.sagepub.com/sites/default/files/upm-binaries/23122_Chapter_3.pdf

    —In commenting about the population composition of the 17th century, historian Mildred Campbell remarked:

    For despite the Dutch on the Hudson, and small groups of Swiss, Swedes, Finns, and French Huguenots pocketed along the coast, the small vessels which set out on the American voyage were chiefly English built and English manned. Their cargoes, moreover, consisted largely of Englishmen and, later and in smaller numbers, Englishwomen. Even the Scots and Irish, who in the next century would crowd the harbors of the New World, were a minority in the first century.

    —By the early 18th century, however, an important change in immigration dramatically altered the population mix. As Stephen Steinberg observed:

    The simple truth is that [the] English were not coming in sufficient numbers to populate the colonies. . . .If there were no compelling “pull” factors luring Englishmen to America, nei- ther were there potent “push” factors. In fact, after 1718 labor shortages at home induced the British government to place restrictions on emigration, especially of skilled artisans and other laborers needed in Britain’s nascent industries. It was this scarcity of emigrants from Britain that induced colonial authorities to permit the immigration of non-English nationalities.

    Pray tell, what is your ancestral background? If you cannot directly trace your family tree on both sides to 1600’s, you have to go back.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Corvinus

    “If you cannot directly trace your family tree on both sides to 1600’s, you have to go back.”

    You really are a meretricious troll.

    As has been noted repeatedly by legal scholars, the constitution explicitly anticipates that the nation will be for the body politic of the times’ progeny. Your exceedingly tedious expansion and contraction of terms to attempt banal arguments is, of course, what you are known for and shame on me for not blowing you off like most people here do. The founding era US was a British society that chose over time to allow by treaty other tribes, Europeans mostly, into the country. The compatibility and ASSIMILATION of those tribes was a matter of great consideration. The Germans, for example, giving the Adams heirs some concern (see Education of Henry Adams).

    Nevertheless, the British had a big head start on everyone else which explains their persistent ethnic dominance throughout the centuries. There were 25 British settlements in Virginia before the Mayflower set sail. My family comes from one which helps explain why there are far more people with my surname in the US than in Britain both in sheer numbers as well as a percentage of the population, at least this was the case in the 1960s. I’m certain there are many such examples of British surname families who arrived b/w 1610-1700. Add this kind of population growth over now 400+ years and even if the Germans came in large numbers in the 1830s, they did not somehow duplicate the cultural impact of the British 200 years earlier. But even the Germans, viewed as slightly foreign when they arrived (in large part due to Catholicism) were not overly different from the Dutch with whom the British and British Americans had colluded in several wars by that point.

    The same argument goes for the Irish who were governed by the British for centuries.

    British America is and was always intended to be a British cultural entity. Henry Adams made that very point in the previously cited book when, during the Civil War, he referred to American political rapprochement with Britain as the ‘Adams Family Project’. It is also the case that up to the early 20th century American culture in arts and letters was nearly synonymous with British culture. Read Thackeray’s The Virginians for a reference point.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Corvinus


    Pray tell, what is your ancestral background? If you cannot directly trace your family tree on both sides to 1600s, you have to go back.
     
    Why do you always resort to dishonesty? If Curle could trace the tree to the 1600s, you would insist that it doesn't count unless the tree began at the Mayflower. You are a liar just like your father.

    You intentionally omit the national consensus for assimilation that held until you and your Marxist fellow-travelers destroyed it. Then you insisted on open borders to make European descendants a minority in our own country. And you think that is a marvelous outcome. Sooner or later the consequence will be white identity politics, fueled by the resentment generated by the decades of injustice visited by you and yours upon us.

    In your hubris, you have sown the wind. Don't be surprised when Nemesis destroys you with the whirlwind.
  206. @stari_momak
    @Jack D

    Many of Russia's Muslims are physically indistinguishable from typical Eastern Europeans. Some are even whiter looking, e.g. Ramzan Kadyrov. The Russian Federation works on a Singaporean model of 'diversity'. The staatsfolk are the Great Russians, and other peoples respect that, but their own traditions are excepted.

    BTW on Telegram today there was some lovely vid of Buryats (Asian, Buddhist) gently accepting the surrender of a few Borderlanders in Bakhmut (placename ultimately from Turkish word for steppe horse, btw). Those prodigal Little Russians are now safe and will be well treated by their mother.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    BTW on Telegram today there was some lovely vid of Buryats (Asian, Buddhist) gently accepting the surrender of a few Borderlanders in Bakhmut (placename ultimately from Turkish word for steppe horse, btw). Those prodigal Little Russians are now safe and will be well treated by their mother.

    Unless Russia again finds it expedient to abandon them in a retreat.

    Putin lost me when that happened earlier in the war, with entirely predictable results that appear to have included the usual mass graves (we’ve got a video, it’s plausible but not entirely confirmed). “Their mother” doesn’t give a damn about them.

    • Replies: @stari_momak
    @That Would Be Telling

    Well, yes, I agree that abandoning territory was bad, esp. since in much of Kharkov oblast and Zaparozhiye west of the Dnieper there was strong support for the Russians, which was how they managed to take these areas so easily in the first place. They did stay in place in a very perilous position for weeks, and appear to have safely evacuated much of the pro-Russian population. But yeah, a defeat and a very bad look.

  207. @Chebyshev

    Harvard has gone from being 25% Jewish in the 1990s and 2000s to under 10% today...A couple of years ago, [Yale’s] chaplain told Meir Chaim Posner, the Chabad rabbi at Yale, that around 11% of Yale undergraduates were Jewish.
     
    This would mean that less than 1/3 of the white students at Harvard and Yale are Jewish. They must be underreporting their numbers of Jewish students because they have been the schools most in the crosshairs of Ron's Meritocracy articles. At Cornell, according to Hillel, more than half the white students are Jewish.

    Replies: @Ron Unz, @Dutch Boy, @Travis

    good point. Also many non-religious Jews may no longer be counted as being Jewish. Maybe the half-Jewish students who may have identified as Jewish in the past no longer do so. In 1990 my college roommate had a Jewish mother and would identify as being Jewish, although he was not religious. Today such people may no longer identify as being Jewish. He had a Jewish girlfriend who would only date Jews, so this may be one reason he identified as Jewish at that time. Today he is married to a gentile.

  208. If I had to guess, I would think that Asians are taking the places that Jews used to take (high IQ, gritty) while NAMs are taking the place of non-legacy/athlete White kids.

    The Jews edged out the WASPs with their sharper elbows and ethno-centricity. Now the same thing is happening to them. Karma.

  209. @Corvinus
    @stari_momak

    “The vast majority of the colonists were of British origin”

    Context is key. And of course you had different groups of English—Puritans, Pilgrims, Scots-Irish, Welsh, families of low and high class.

    https://www.sagepub.com/sites/default/files/upm-binaries/23122_Chapter_3.pdf

    —In commenting about the population composition of the 17th century, historian Mildred Campbell remarked:

    For despite the Dutch on the Hudson, and small groups of Swiss, Swedes, Finns, and French Huguenots pocketed along the coast, the small vessels which set out on the American voyage were chiefly English built and English manned. Their cargoes, moreover, consisted largely of Englishmen and, later and in smaller numbers, Englishwomen. Even the Scots and Irish, who in the next century would crowd the harbors of the New World, were a minority in the first century.

    —By the early 18th century, however, an important change in immigration dramatically altered the population mix. As Stephen Steinberg observed:

    The simple truth is that [the] English were not coming in sufficient numbers to populate the colonies. . . .If there were no compelling “pull” factors luring Englishmen to America, nei- ther were there potent “push” factors. In fact, after 1718 labor shortages at home induced the British government to place restrictions on emigration, especially of skilled artisans and other laborers needed in Britain’s nascent industries. It was this scarcity of emigrants from Britain that induced colonial authorities to permit the immigration of non-English nationalities.

    Pray tell, what is your ancestral background? If you cannot directly trace your family tree on both sides to 1600’s, you have to go back.

    Replies: @Curle, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    “If you cannot directly trace your family tree on both sides to 1600’s, you have to go back.”

    You really are a meretricious troll.

    As has been noted repeatedly by legal scholars, the constitution explicitly anticipates that the nation will be for the body politic of the times’ progeny. Your exceedingly tedious expansion and contraction of terms to attempt banal arguments is, of course, what you are known for and shame on me for not blowing you off like most people here do. The founding era US was a British society that chose over time to allow by treaty other tribes, Europeans mostly, into the country. The compatibility and ASSIMILATION of those tribes was a matter of great consideration. The Germans, for example, giving the Adams heirs some concern (see Education of Henry Adams).

    Nevertheless, the British had a big head start on everyone else which explains their persistent ethnic dominance throughout the centuries. There were 25 British settlements in Virginia before the Mayflower set sail. My family comes from one which helps explain why there are far more people with my surname in the US than in Britain both in sheer numbers as well as a percentage of the population, at least this was the case in the 1960s. I’m certain there are many such examples of British surname families who arrived b/w 1610-1700. Add this kind of population growth over now 400+ years and even if the Germans came in large numbers in the 1830s, they did not somehow duplicate the cultural impact of the British 200 years earlier. But even the Germans, viewed as slightly foreign when they arrived (in large part due to Catholicism) were not overly different from the Dutch with whom the British and British Americans had colluded in several wars by that point.

    The same argument goes for the Irish who were governed by the British for centuries.

    British America is and was always intended to be a British cultural entity. Henry Adams made that very point in the previously cited book when, during the Civil War, he referred to American political rapprochement with Britain as the ‘Adams Family Project’. It is also the case that up to the early 20th century American culture in arts and letters was nearly synonymous with British culture. Read Thackeray’s The Virginians for a reference point.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Curle

    "...meretricious..."

    Great word!

    "As has been noted repeatedly by legal scholars"

    Appeal to authority. Who are we exactly talking about?

    "the constitution explicitly anticipates that the nation will be for the body politic of the times’ progeny."

    Key phrase--of the times'. Meaning it is able to change according to our posterity.

    "Your exceedingly tedious expansion and contraction of terms to attempt banal arguments is, of course, what you are known for and shame on me for not blowing you off like most people here do.:"

    You're projecting, per usual. The Founding Fathers core principles are applicable to ALL races and ethnicities, who have the philosophical pedigree to adopt them as they immerse themselves in our society. You are perfectly entitled to your own self-importance, but you displaying the imperial hubris that demands a sense of its own universalism. In other words, you are stuck in a now defunct world where one group is totally superior in knowledge and morality compared to other groups, which is a phantom pleasure of thinking itself as THE center of the universe. The Enlightenment was a liberating tsunami that washed away the notion of Europe’s own cosmopolitan worldliness and enabled individuals from “far away places” like Mexico and Nigeria take the ideas of Locke and Voltaire and apply them to their lives.

    "The founding era US was a British society that chose over time to allow by treaty other tribes, Europeans mostly, into the country."

    The Founding Era U.S. was originally founded by a host of different peoples that chose over time to allow by legislative acts other groups of peoples into the country.

    "My family comes from one"

    Anyone can say anything on the Interwebs. What about the side of your wife?

    "But even the Germans, viewed as slightly foreign when they arrived (in large part due to Catholicism) were not overly different from the Dutch with whom the British and British Americans had colluded in several wars by that point."

    Not quite.


    “Those who come hither are generally of the most ignorant Stupid Sort of their own Nation. Not being used to Liberty, they know not how to make a modest use of it. [T]he Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted...Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.”

    --Benjamin Franklin
     
    "British America is and was always intended to be a British cultural entity".

    Alexander Hamilton wrote, “Immigrants exhibit a large proportion of ingenious domestic and valuable workmen who by expatriating from Europe improved their condition, and add to the industry and wealth of the United States”. Indeed, American economic growth required a massive influx of foreign labor! In Common Sense, Thomas Paine upheld “this new world” as “the asylum for the persecuted lovers of civil and religious liberty”--which in essence refers to any and all groups of people, whether it be European or non-European. Jefferson argued for “a right which nature has given to all men, of departing from the country in which chance, not choice, has placed them.” James Madison defended immigration on the grounds that it is “always from places where living is more difficult to places where it is less difficult,” so “the happiness of the emigrant is promoted by the change”.

    Hence, the Founding Fathers enabled Congress to set the criteria for immigration with those newcomers blending in and articulating what is posterity from that new baseline. In other words, future generations of Americans were given the liberty to decide what is and what is not “an American”. At the time of the Founding Fathers, their worldview was European, which is other than surprising. However, as we have seen throughout the course of human history, perspectives change over time due to a host of factors. Of course, that does not mean foreigners have the right to enter our shores, as Congress sets the standards for immigration. But the proposition remains that there are hoops for newcomers to jump through.

    Americans in the past and at present identify with American civilization, with its under-pinnings of representative democracy and capitalism. Certainly, political and economic concepts from Western Civilization played a major role in the development of American institutions, but the Founding Fathers granted liberty to its citizens to set the course for its own future. While posterity originally referred to those who founded the nation, the die was NOT set, as evident by the power of the people to set immigration criteria, which has noticeably changed since the inaugural 1790 law.
  210. “Context is key. And of course you had different groups of English—Puritans, Pilgrims, Scots-Irish, Welsh, families of low and high class.”

    Yes of course, if we do enough dividing we can get down to individuals.

    As far as changine sources of immigration, you forget that that isn’t the only or even the major source of population growth in traditional societies. Natural growth is. The astounding natural growth of the English/Anglo American settlements in North America even makes a couple of appearances in Malthus.

  211. @That Would Be Telling
    @stari_momak


    BTW on Telegram today there was some lovely vid of Buryats (Asian, Buddhist) gently accepting the surrender of a few Borderlanders in Bakhmut (placename ultimately from Turkish word for steppe horse, btw). Those prodigal Little Russians are now safe and will be well treated by their mother.
     
    Unless Russia again finds it expedient to abandon them in a retreat.

    Putin lost me when that happened earlier in the war, with entirely predictable results that appear to have included the usual mass graves (we've got a video, it's plausible but not entirely confirmed). "Their mother" doesn't give a damn about them.

    Replies: @stari_momak

    Well, yes, I agree that abandoning territory was bad, esp. since in much of Kharkov oblast and Zaparozhiye west of the Dnieper there was strong support for the Russians, which was how they managed to take these areas so easily in the first place. They did stay in place in a very perilous position for weeks, and appear to have safely evacuated much of the pro-Russian population. But yeah, a defeat and a very bad look.

  212. @JohnnyWalker123
    This is a fascinating topic because we're talking about WHO will be the future ruling class of this country.

    We should perform surname analysis of lists of rising young people (Millennials and Zoomers) in elite fields & institutions. Then we can determine the exact percentages of Jews, White Gentiles, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Subcontinentals, and Middle Easterners.

    For example, what percentage of Ivy League students come from each of the above groups? Emerging Hollywood directors? Newly hired journalists at major broadcasters?

    We need these exact percentages to know who will be running the show in the coming decades.

    Replies: @arnie

    I don’t know about that. I think there’s just a good chance that these elite instutitions lose their power. Money equals power. If you have a bunch of medicorites in this institutions, it gives non-elites the opprtunity to usurp the elites. Kind of like what the Jews did to the WASPs

  213. @Anonymous
    Steve, have Jews gone down faster than whites? Or slower? Or about the same? Missing this analysis, in your essay. Would affect how we evaluate the change.

    E.g. if geography/athlete/legacy are having an adverse effect on Jewish NYC kids from middle class homes, then I can see their point. Although smart gentile nebbishes (they do exist) would be impacted also.

    Or perhaps whites are declining faster than Jews and this is just a boo hoo hoo. I donno. I will search through some of the linked articles and see if the %Jew/%white is in there.

    P.s. Not the be too "more gruel"ish, but you like to count and data sort and all. Would think doing this fraction would be first thing for you.

    Replies: @arnie

    I’d like to know what % of legacy or donor admits are Jewish. We’re all just supposed to assume they are old money WASPs from Connecticut but I’d bet a large percentage are Jewish.

  214. @Gross Terry
    Its funny how "Maybe Jews have gotten considerably dumber?" is not even considered as a possibility. Hell, maybe its due to miscegenation with the Irish if the sheenies want to have some sort of dignity protecting crouch about it!

    Replies: @ginger bread man, @Ferrari

    No this is not a valid point since the Irish do not have low IQ. Steve wrote on this earlier and sourced to the following data, which may interest you:

    https://russellwarne.com/2022/12/17/irish-iq-the-massive-rise-that-never-happened/

    Essentially the best explanation of the late 20th century rise of the Irish IQ is that the rise never occurred. The Irish IQ was never depressed and hence the presumed environmental effects were small or non-existent.

  215. @Corvinus
    @stari_momak

    “The vast majority of the colonists were of British origin”

    Context is key. And of course you had different groups of English—Puritans, Pilgrims, Scots-Irish, Welsh, families of low and high class.

    https://www.sagepub.com/sites/default/files/upm-binaries/23122_Chapter_3.pdf

    —In commenting about the population composition of the 17th century, historian Mildred Campbell remarked:

    For despite the Dutch on the Hudson, and small groups of Swiss, Swedes, Finns, and French Huguenots pocketed along the coast, the small vessels which set out on the American voyage were chiefly English built and English manned. Their cargoes, moreover, consisted largely of Englishmen and, later and in smaller numbers, Englishwomen. Even the Scots and Irish, who in the next century would crowd the harbors of the New World, were a minority in the first century.

    —By the early 18th century, however, an important change in immigration dramatically altered the population mix. As Stephen Steinberg observed:

    The simple truth is that [the] English were not coming in sufficient numbers to populate the colonies. . . .If there were no compelling “pull” factors luring Englishmen to America, nei- ther were there potent “push” factors. In fact, after 1718 labor shortages at home induced the British government to place restrictions on emigration, especially of skilled artisans and other laborers needed in Britain’s nascent industries. It was this scarcity of emigrants from Britain that induced colonial authorities to permit the immigration of non-English nationalities.

    Pray tell, what is your ancestral background? If you cannot directly trace your family tree on both sides to 1600’s, you have to go back.

    Replies: @Curle, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Pray tell, what is your ancestral background? If you cannot directly trace your family tree on both sides to 1600s, you have to go back.

    Why do you always resort to dishonesty? If Curle could trace the tree to the 1600s, you would insist that it doesn’t count unless the tree began at the Mayflower. You are a liar just like your father.

    You intentionally omit the national consensus for assimilation that held until you and your Marxist fellow-travelers destroyed it. Then you insisted on open borders to make European descendants a minority in our own country. And you think that is a marvelous outcome. Sooner or later the consequence will be white identity politics, fueled by the resentment generated by the decades of injustice visited by you and yours upon us.

    In your hubris, you have sown the wind. Don’t be surprised when Nemesis destroys you with the whirlwind.

  216. @Jack D
    @Dumbo

    I hope you realize that Silverman is a comedienne and that her "quote" about killing Christ was a joke.

    Anyway, I don't know what you goyim are pissed about. As I understand it, the whole basis of the religion is that Christ died for your sins. If Jesus lives to a ripe old age (40?) and dies of natural causes then there goes your whole religion.

    Replies: @Dumbo, @Hibernian

    A thought experiment: Substitute Mohammed for Jesus. She’d go into protective custody real quick.

  217. meh says:

    Alternatively, influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up the society where we most thrived?”

    Jews are white or non-white as it suits them, without regard to logic or consistency or fairness, simply what is good for Jews, in the moment.

    Jews count as White when it results in keeping actual Whites out of elite universities, jobs, etc., but Jews are non-white otherwise. They can, and will, have it both ways.

    They also aren’t going to admit that the entire anti-white narrative and agenda is Jewish, and they aren’t going to admit to being the ones driving Western Civilization into the ground.

    They can, and will, pivot to blame this entire multiracial hellhole on “white liberals” or “white, woke crazies”, to deflect blame from Jews.

    In fact, the “anti-woke conservatives” are doing precisely that. Anti-woke and Woke are both anti-white, because both are operating under Jewish control and under Jewish narratives. Jews control both sides of the “debate” by design. Whites get the blame either way.

    “The Juwes are the men that will not be blamed for nothing”.

    Eric Weinstein name-drops Leather Apron Club on Joe Rogan’s podcast

    https://twitter.com/InternetRadical/status/1628537229487243264?cxt=HHwWgICwsev-3JktAAAA

    Eric Weinstein made the Jack the Ripper connection, not Leather Apron Club. This is what you call an unforced error. Now more people know that Jack the Ripper was Jewish (a fact Jews have been very good at obfuscating) and more people know about Jewish over-representation on Joe Rogan and in general.

    The reality is that Jews are grossly over-represented in all elite and influential institutions, and this Jew is crying about “the erasure of Jews from American life” simply because their non-white golem can’t always discriminate in Jews’ favor because they can’t tell who is White and who is Jew and behave automatically in favor of Jews.

    Well, too bad, Jews; you created this mess, and these are your golems. Whites didn’t create this system; no, not even White liberals. White liberals simply remained subservient to elite narratives, no matter how insane, same as always.

    There is a fix: either admit that the entire post-1964 Civil Rights revolution is a fraud and a failure, or have the Jewish representation “fairly” restricted to the actual Jewish proportion of the USA population, same as Whites are expected to do (in fact Whites are under-represented currently according to population in elite institutions once you account for Jews).

    Either give Whites equal protection under the Civil Rights Act, or repeal the entire mess.

    Or else, double down and admit openly that Whites have no rights, full stop. Because that’s where we actually are, but TPTB obviously know if they made that fact explicit, it would destroy the legitimacy of the current regime.

    The Platform of The National Justice Party (the two planks relevant to this discussion; see NJP website for all 25 planks):

    2. We demand the extension of the 1964 Civil Rights act to provide equal protections and privileges to the White majority, or the act must be repealed.

    4. We support a two percent ceiling on Jewish employment in vital institutions so that they better represent the ethnic and regional population balance of the country.

    national justice party dot com
    the right stuff dot biz

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @meh

    But Jews don't count as BIPOCs, at least not until the Biden Administration gets its way with the MENA category, so current racial equity pushes are bad for the Jews.

    Replies: @stari_momak, @Corvinus

  218. @meh

    Alternatively, influential Jews could wake up and say, “Hey, wait a minute, we’re white too! Why are we helping blow up the society where we most thrived?”
     
    Jews are white or non-white as it suits them, without regard to logic or consistency or fairness, simply what is good for Jews, in the moment.

    Jews count as White when it results in keeping actual Whites out of elite universities, jobs, etc., but Jews are non-white otherwise. They can, and will, have it both ways.

    They also aren't going to admit that the entire anti-white narrative and agenda is Jewish, and they aren't going to admit to being the ones driving Western Civilization into the ground.

    They can, and will, pivot to blame this entire multiracial hellhole on "white liberals" or "white, woke crazies", to deflect blame from Jews.

    In fact, the "anti-woke conservatives" are doing precisely that. Anti-woke and Woke are both anti-white, because both are operating under Jewish control and under Jewish narratives. Jews control both sides of the "debate" by design. Whites get the blame either way.

    "The Juwes are the men that will not be blamed for nothing".

    Eric Weinstein name-drops Leather Apron Club on Joe Rogan's podcast

    https://twitter.com/InternetRadical/status/1628537229487243264?cxt=HHwWgICwsev-3JktAAAA

    Eric Weinstein made the Jack the Ripper connection, not Leather Apron Club. This is what you call an unforced error. Now more people know that Jack the Ripper was Jewish (a fact Jews have been very good at obfuscating) and more people know about Jewish over-representation on Joe Rogan and in general.

    The reality is that Jews are grossly over-represented in all elite and influential institutions, and this Jew is crying about "the erasure of Jews from American life" simply because their non-white golem can't always discriminate in Jews' favor because they can't tell who is White and who is Jew and behave automatically in favor of Jews.

    Well, too bad, Jews; you created this mess, and these are your golems. Whites didn't create this system; no, not even White liberals. White liberals simply remained subservient to elite narratives, no matter how insane, same as always.

    There is a fix: either admit that the entire post-1964 Civil Rights revolution is a fraud and a failure, or have the Jewish representation "fairly" restricted to the actual Jewish proportion of the USA population, same as Whites are expected to do (in fact Whites are under-represented currently according to population in elite institutions once you account for Jews).

    Either give Whites equal protection under the Civil Rights Act, or repeal the entire mess.

    Or else, double down and admit openly that Whites have no rights, full stop. Because that's where we actually are, but TPTB obviously know if they made that fact explicit, it would destroy the legitimacy of the current regime.

    The Platform of The National Justice Party (the two planks relevant to this discussion; see NJP website for all 25 planks):

    2. We demand the extension of the 1964 Civil Rights act to provide equal protections and privileges to the White majority, or the act must be repealed.

    4. We support a two percent ceiling on Jewish employment in vital institutions so that they better represent the ethnic and regional population balance of the country.

    national justice party dot com
    the right stuff dot biz

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    But Jews don’t count as BIPOCs, at least not until the Biden Administration gets its way with the MENA category, so current racial equity pushes are bad for the Jews.

    • Replies: @stari_momak
    @Steve Sailer

    Look for many seemingly Ashkenazi Jewish Americans to rediscover their Sephardic roots, real or imaginary.

    Replies: @anarchyst

    , @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    You do realize that few normies and members of Generation Z are obsessed with Jews as you and your fellow iStevians, right?

  219. @Steve Sailer
    @meh

    But Jews don't count as BIPOCs, at least not until the Biden Administration gets its way with the MENA category, so current racial equity pushes are bad for the Jews.

    Replies: @stari_momak, @Corvinus

    Look for many seemingly Ashkenazi Jewish Americans to rediscover their Sephardic roots, real or imaginary.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    @stari_momak

    Actually Biden's push to get jews classified as an oppressed minority could have a silver lining for the "rest of us".
    As it stands now, it is illegal for the U S government to categorize jews. This law prohibits the Department of Commerce (which runs the census) from establishing a category for the identification of jews as an "ethnic group".
    Biden's push to categorize jews on civil-rights grounds throws all of the present prohibitions out the window.
    Let's get it on...

  220. @stari_momak
    @Steve Sailer

    Look for many seemingly Ashkenazi Jewish Americans to rediscover their Sephardic roots, real or imaginary.

    Replies: @anarchyst

    Actually Biden’s push to get jews classified as an oppressed minority could have a silver lining for the “rest of us”.
    As it stands now, it is illegal for the U S government to categorize jews. This law prohibits the Department of Commerce (which runs the census) from establishing a category for the identification of jews as an “ethnic group”.
    Biden’s push to categorize jews on civil-rights grounds throws all of the present prohibitions out the window.
    Let’s get it on…

  221. @James N. Kennett
    @anonymous


    “We’ve wondered. Anyone who’s paying attention has had to have wondered that. Well, this week, Congressman Jamie Raskin of Maryland, of Bethesda, answered that question. Russia is an orthodox Christian country with traditional social values and for that reason, it must be destroyed, no matter what the cost to us. This is not a conventional war. This is a jihad. Jamie Raskin said that out loud, but many in Washington agree with him in both parties. They would like to see World War Trans immediately….”
     
    There is no source for the Raskin quote. It is possible that he said it privately and Carlson's writers found out. More likely they paraphrased it from Raskin's actual statements with a large dose of poetic license.

    Raskin's published views are "interesting":

    Moscow right now is a hub of corrupt tyranny, censorship, authoritarian repression, police violence, propaganda, government lies and disinformation, and planning for war crimes. It is a world center of antifeminist, antigay, anti-trans hatred, as well as the homeland of replacement theory for export. In supporting Ukraine, we are opposing these fascist views, and supporting the urgent principles of democratic pluralism. Ukraine is not perfect, of course, but its society is organized on the radically different principles of democracy and freedom, which is why Russia's oligarchical leaders seek to destroy it forever.
     
    https://raskin.house.gov/press-releases?ID=C6AAEAAD-548C-444A-85AB-A77AB7FFAAE6

    Not only is the notion that we are fighting the Russians on behalf of feminists, gays and transsexuals not right; as physicists say, it is not even wrong. It is a lie so contemptible that it places Raskin in a lower circle of hell than even Tucker Carlson's scriptwriters.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Nicholas Stix

    “Not only is the notion that we are fighting the Russians on behalf of feminists, gays and transsexuals not right; as physicists say, it is not even wrong. It is a lie so contemptible that it places Raskin in a lower circle of hell than even Tucker Carlson’s scriptwriters.”

    People like the ADL’s Jonathan Greenblatt and Jamie Raskin live in a world that has nothing to do with ordinary Jews.

    I had never heard of Raskin until now. This is a shame, because he has a couple of fetching, young daughters, especially the one with the great, um, “personality,” as Johnny Mercer would have said. Of course, I’m not on the market, and rich Litvakim like the Raskins would never give the time of day to a poor Galizianer like me.

  222. @Curle
    @Corvinus

    “If you cannot directly trace your family tree on both sides to 1600’s, you have to go back.”

    You really are a meretricious troll.

    As has been noted repeatedly by legal scholars, the constitution explicitly anticipates that the nation will be for the body politic of the times’ progeny. Your exceedingly tedious expansion and contraction of terms to attempt banal arguments is, of course, what you are known for and shame on me for not blowing you off like most people here do. The founding era US was a British society that chose over time to allow by treaty other tribes, Europeans mostly, into the country. The compatibility and ASSIMILATION of those tribes was a matter of great consideration. The Germans, for example, giving the Adams heirs some concern (see Education of Henry Adams).

    Nevertheless, the British had a big head start on everyone else which explains their persistent ethnic dominance throughout the centuries. There were 25 British settlements in Virginia before the Mayflower set sail. My family comes from one which helps explain why there are far more people with my surname in the US than in Britain both in sheer numbers as well as a percentage of the population, at least this was the case in the 1960s. I’m certain there are many such examples of British surname families who arrived b/w 1610-1700. Add this kind of population growth over now 400+ years and even if the Germans came in large numbers in the 1830s, they did not somehow duplicate the cultural impact of the British 200 years earlier. But even the Germans, viewed as slightly foreign when they arrived (in large part due to Catholicism) were not overly different from the Dutch with whom the British and British Americans had colluded in several wars by that point.

    The same argument goes for the Irish who were governed by the British for centuries.

    British America is and was always intended to be a British cultural entity. Henry Adams made that very point in the previously cited book when, during the Civil War, he referred to American political rapprochement with Britain as the ‘Adams Family Project’. It is also the case that up to the early 20th century American culture in arts and letters was nearly synonymous with British culture. Read Thackeray’s The Virginians for a reference point.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “…meretricious…”

    Great word!

    “As has been noted repeatedly by legal scholars”

    Appeal to authority. Who are we exactly talking about?

    “the constitution explicitly anticipates that the nation will be for the body politic of the times’ progeny.”

    Key phrase–of the times’. Meaning it is able to change according to our posterity.

    “Your exceedingly tedious expansion and contraction of terms to attempt banal arguments is, of course, what you are known for and shame on me for not blowing you off like most people here do.:”

    You’re projecting, per usual. The Founding Fathers core principles are applicable to ALL races and ethnicities, who have the philosophical pedigree to adopt them as they immerse themselves in our society. You are perfectly entitled to your own self-importance, but you displaying the imperial hubris that demands a sense of its own universalism. In other words, you are stuck in a now defunct world where one group is totally superior in knowledge and morality compared to other groups, which is a phantom pleasure of thinking itself as THE center of the universe. The Enlightenment was a liberating tsunami that washed away the notion of Europe’s own cosmopolitan worldliness and enabled individuals from “far away places” like Mexico and Nigeria take the ideas of Locke and Voltaire and apply them to their lives.

    “The founding era US was a British society that chose over time to allow by treaty other tribes, Europeans mostly, into the country.”

    The Founding Era U.S. was originally founded by a host of different peoples that chose over time to allow by legislative acts other groups of peoples into the country.

    “My family comes from one”

    Anyone can say anything on the Interwebs. What about the side of your wife?

    “But even the Germans, viewed as slightly foreign when they arrived (in large part due to Catholicism) were not overly different from the Dutch with whom the British and British Americans had colluded in several wars by that point.”

    Not quite.

    “Those who come hither are generally of the most ignorant Stupid Sort of their own Nation. Not being used to Liberty, they know not how to make a modest use of it. [T]he Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted…Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.”

    –Benjamin Franklin

    “British America is and was always intended to be a British cultural entity”.

    Alexander Hamilton wrote, “Immigrants exhibit a large proportion of ingenious domestic and valuable workmen who by expatriating from Europe improved their condition, and add to the industry and wealth of the United States”. Indeed, American economic growth required a massive influx of foreign labor! In Common Sense, Thomas Paine upheld “this new world” as “the asylum for the persecuted lovers of civil and religious liberty”–which in essence refers to any and all groups of people, whether it be European or non-European. Jefferson argued for “a right which nature has given to all men, of departing from the country in which chance, not choice, has placed them.” James Madison defended immigration on the grounds that it is “always from places where living is more difficult to places where it is less difficult,” so “the happiness of the emigrant is promoted by the change”.

    Hence, the Founding Fathers enabled Congress to set the criteria for immigration with those newcomers blending in and articulating what is posterity from that new baseline. In other words, future generations of Americans were given the liberty to decide what is and what is not “an American”. At the time of the Founding Fathers, their worldview was European, which is other than surprising. However, as we have seen throughout the course of human history, perspectives change over time due to a host of factors. Of course, that does not mean foreigners have the right to enter our shores, as Congress sets the standards for immigration. But the proposition remains that there are hoops for newcomers to jump through.

    Americans in the past and at present identify with American civilization, with its under-pinnings of representative democracy and capitalism. Certainly, political and economic concepts from Western Civilization played a major role in the development of American institutions, but the Founding Fathers granted liberty to its citizens to set the course for its own future. While posterity originally referred to those who founded the nation, the die was NOT set, as evident by the power of the people to set immigration criteria, which has noticeably changed since the inaugural 1790 law.

  223. @Steve Sailer
    @meh

    But Jews don't count as BIPOCs, at least not until the Biden Administration gets its way with the MENA category, so current racial equity pushes are bad for the Jews.

    Replies: @stari_momak, @Corvinus

    You do realize that few normies and members of Generation Z are obsessed with Jews as you and your fellow iStevians, right?

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