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Why is Trump still talking at approaching midnight on the East Coast?

 
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  1. This isn’t really my thing so I found them all…meh (if not cringe).

    The sole exception was Dana White. I found nothing to criticize in his speech, and much to praise.

    I gave Trump as much time as I could but had to get to bed. Seemed very somber at first, but started getting a bit more energetic and “Trumpy” as he went on. I’ll trust there will be a zillion opinions on his performance tomorrow that I can catch up on…

    • Replies: @Batman
    @Matthew Kelly

    >The sole exception was Dana White. I found nothing to criticize in his speech, and much to praise.

    Dana White is a lot like Vince McMahon (of the WWE). He may be an executive, but that job is secondary to his primary job of being an a hypeman. Fighting hypemen are incredibly talented entertainers. It's why the Rock (albeit with a healthy thumb on the scale from affirmative action) so easily transitioned to being a movie star. They're all very good at captivating an arena full of fans with nothing more than a microphone and an empty stage.

    Replies: @Matthew Kelly, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Torna atrás
    @Matthew Kelly

    I saw Iwo Jima briefly trending today and knew what it was referring to. Today is just not a good day for the Democrats!

    https://twitter.com/LaCivitaC/status/1812313008590475577

    Trump is a beast compared to Abe!

  2. Watched Trump’s speech for the first 30 minutes then turned off. It started great, then became a stream of rambling and exaggerations. Maybe it will pick up near the end.

    • Agree: Liza
  3. anonymous[294] • Disclaimer says:

    Cause he’s stronger than ‘ol man Steve.

  4. Hulk Hogan, Kid Rock, USA! USA! USA!

    This is the most ‘MURICA thing I’ve ever seen.

    • LOL: PaceLaw
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Will this energy be channeled constructively to repair and heal the USA? How can such a thing be accomplished?

    A lot of the serious problems in our country took decades to create. Is the American attention span long enough to achieve a correction?

    The border control and illegal immigrant issue has been a commonly recognized problem since the 1960's when this round started. What will it take to stop and then reverse a 65 year trend? The process is probably catastrophic for the American civilization but simultaneously has tens of millions of beneficiaries in the short run.

    Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown, @Jonathan Mason, @lctimeconstant

    , @Prester John
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Which is why it won't play on the Upper West Side, Cambridge MA or Hollywood.

    , @Anonymous
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Idiocracy said this wouldn’t happen until the year 2505.

    Replies: @Matthew Kelly, @Reg Cæsar

    , @SFG
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    For the national convention of the more conservative party, that seems appropriate.

    , @Linus
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    That and the head tat whore made me wonder what exactly we are conserving.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Yngvar, @Gandydancer

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Pro wrestling fans skews more Democrat than all but a few sports, and has the lowest turnout rate

    https://i.postimg.cc/zXHPcdCy/514789beeab8ea4e69000006.webp

    https://www.businessinsider.com/politics-sports-you-like-2013-3

    Replies: @Torna atrás

  5. Midnight. He’s back on script, talking about the Revolutionary War to wrap things up. This part was professionally written, whereas his description of the PA shooting was written by him and full of cliches. Everything in the middle seemed ad-libbed.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @UES guy

    his description of the PA shooting was written by him and full of cliches

    I shake my head in wonderment at some of the people who comment here.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Gandydancer

  6. Trump’s speech was too long. Though I wonder if that was partially by design.

    “Look at me! You know Joe couldn’t last this long!”

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Corn

    That was my conclusion, as well. He wanted to show his stamina. Sleepy Joe has to go to bed at eight o'clock but The Donald can keep rambling into the wee hours of the morning.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    , @epebble
    @Corn

    Ignoring any substance or policy in the speech, standing on two legs and speaking for nearly two hours without taking a sip of water definitely passes the fitness test against Biden.

    However, the game may be changing ...

    People Close to Biden Say He Appears to Accept He May Have to Leave the Race
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/18/us/politics/biden-election-drop-out.html

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @J.Ross

    , @Percival2
    @Corn

    Xi Jinping has been known to deliver 3-hour long speeches at the CCP congress. But in his case there is this Communist tradition of presenting elaborate political ideology through such a medium.

    Trump has always worked best with soundbites and when things are short and sweet. He certainly isn't an intellectual and he shouldn't try to be.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Corn, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

  7. @Corn
    Trump’s speech was too long. Though I wonder if that was partially by design.

    “Look at me! You know Joe couldn’t last this long!”

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @epebble, @Percival2

    That was my conclusion, as well. He wanted to show his stamina. Sleepy Joe has to go to bed at eight o’clock but The Donald can keep rambling into the wee hours of the morning.

    • Agree: Liza
    • LOL: Dragoslav
    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Stan Adams

    It might have been over long to imply he’s not afraid of another assassination attempt out in the open.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

  8. The Republican platform has two planks:
    1. Fight a war against Iran for the benefit of Israel.
    2. Eliminate the first amendment on campus for the benefit of Israel.

    Bill Ackman’s Israel-First agenda can’t generate any genuine enthusiasm.

    The revolutionary American nationalist energy of 2016 was completely and utterly absent.

    • Replies: @Sgt Sternhammer
    @John Gruskos

    #1 is false. #2 is pretty true. But there are a lot of other planks. If you can't notice them, that says a lot about you.

    Replies: @John Gruskos

    , @Jack D
    @John Gruskos

    If the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a Jew.

    Replies: @MGB

    , @Bragadocious
    @John Gruskos

    Maybe you hyperventilating clowns should stop with the Israel stuff. You'll never get your way and you should learn to cope. The 2016 campaign had no anti-Israel stuff. Go back and look if you don't believe me. The most Trump would say is that he wanted to make a deal. That was it. He did exit office pretty much hating Netanyahu, FWIW.

    Anyway, Israel is about the 20th most important thing on Trump's plate right now. Freeing the US from Britain's maximalist Ukraine psychosis is the #1 priority, and probably priorities 2 and 3 as well. He's appointed a VP who is getting savaged in the British press right now, and this is an excellent sign.

    Replies: @Manfred Arcane, @Colin Wright, @John Gruskos

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @John Gruskos


    The Republican platform has two planks:
    1. Fight a war against Iran for the benefit of Israel.
    2. Eliminate the first amendment on campus for the benefit of Israel.
     
    The same two planks as are part of the dimocrat platform and explain Biden's and his handlers' behaviors over the past ten months.

    OTOH, Trump/Vance are both on record promising to end the USA hegemon's proxy war in the Ukraine, while all likely dimocrat candidates are on record promising to continue that war a outrance, i.e. to the point of a nuclear war in Europe.

    Pick your poison.
    , @Bill Jones
    @John Gruskos

    The US' leading Yiddistani is trying to start a war with Iran right now:



    Distraction? Blinken Says Iran Just 1-2 Weeks Away From Producing Material For A Nuclear Weapon
     
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/distraction-blinken-says-iran-just-1-2-weeks-away-producing-material-nuclear-weapon


    These people have no place in the West.
  9. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    Hulk Hogan, Kid Rock, USA! USA! USA!

    This is the most ‘MURICA thing I’ve ever seen.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Prester John, @Anonymous, @SFG, @Linus, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Will this energy be channeled constructively to repair and heal the USA? How can such a thing be accomplished?

    A lot of the serious problems in our country took decades to create. Is the American attention span long enough to achieve a correction?

    The border control and illegal immigrant issue has been a commonly recognized problem since the 1960’s when this round started. What will it take to stop and then reverse a 65 year trend? The process is probably catastrophic for the American civilization but simultaneously has tens of millions of beneficiaries in the short run.

    • Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @QCIC

    I have my doubts about anything getting better under any administration in the current year. As other commenters have noted, until Israel-first ends, nothing really changes.

    But, RIGHT NOW, what’s the best alternative to Trump/Hogan? Four more years of Biden? Kamala? Some other unqualified DEI reject? Civil War Part 2 is sure taking its sweet time manifesting. Should we wait harder?

    Anyway, fixing the border / immigration issue is simply a matter of political will. No way in hell it’s happening under any democratic administration.

    Change my mind.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Prester John, @Almost Missouri, @Harry Baldwin

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @QCIC


    The border control and illegal immigrant issue has been a commonly recognized problem since the 1960’s when this round started.
     
    The real problem is that the asylum system is broken. Would-be immigrants can claim that they are facing persecution in their home country, and it becomes almost impossible to kick them out without a process that lasts for years.

    For example it is ridiculous that many Ecuadorians travel illegally to the US and claim to be facing persecution at home, while many retired US citizens move in the reverse directiona and live in Ecuador.

    And then Cubans are allowed into the US ad lib, supposedly because they are persecuted under communism, and Haitians and Venezuelans are allowed in because their home countries are just a shambles.

    So the system is broken, but what are the Republicans going to do to heal it. It is far from clear. If they start shooting unarmed people who approach the land border with Mexico, other routes will open up, for example getting into Puerto Rico by boat, or maybe Alaska or Hawaii.

    The new UK prime minister Keir Starmer says his government intends to deal with the criminal gangs who facilitate illegal immigration, and it seems to me that this would be a good approach for the US government.

    Illegal immigration is a multi-billion dollar industry and could only be eliminated by a coalition of governments within the Americas and the Caribbean.

    Also I noted in the coverage of speeches at the Republican convention that there was barely any discussion of health care, which is a huge issue for many people.

    And what is that square white bandage on Trump's ear supposed to be doing? It doesn't look like the right type of dressing for someone who had the top of their ear amputated by a bullet.

    , @lctimeconstant
    @QCIC

    Construct and heal what? We all gonna come together in leftist democracy and finally realize we want our children to be trans, starting at age 2? Then we wake to another realization that killing babies right out of the womb is ok too. And then ....

    Why can't we be a threat to their democracy? Why can't religious countries in the ME be a threat to their democracy? Why can't the Vatican and the numerous Christian Denominations be a threat to their democracy? No ones talking authoritarian. Maybe tired of their democracy. Their flooding of our countries and demoralizing and strangling and killing our people. Growing up in Killingly must have a new meaning. I doubt the Pilgrims killed that many Indians or even enslaved this many people.

  10. @Corn
    Trump’s speech was too long. Though I wonder if that was partially by design.

    “Look at me! You know Joe couldn’t last this long!”

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @epebble, @Percival2

    Ignoring any substance or policy in the speech, standing on two legs and speaking for nearly two hours without taking a sip of water definitely passes the fitness test against Biden.

    However, the game may be changing …

    People Close to Biden Say He Appears to Accept He May Have to Leave the Race
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/18/us/politics/biden-election-drop-out.html

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @epebble


    However, the game may be changing …

    People Close to Biden Say He Appears to Accept He May Have to Leave the Race
     
    I really don't see how it helps.

    The Democrats needed to get old Joe to formally bow out at least a year ago, so they could have an open cycle of candidates. Really, it should never have even gotten that far. That should have been baked in in 2020. Joe saying he was a one term "Return to Normalcy" candidate should have been a condition of supporting his run, with everyone saying that it is unacceptable to run an 80+ candidate.

    Now if Joe drops out they have to either run Kamala or spurn her--a black!, a woman!, a black woman!!! In the old 20th century Democratic party you could have personal considerations--competency, character, demeanor, electability--bump someone aside. But you're going to give a "black woman" the bum's rush?

    The only upside I see for them is that they'd probably get the Harris debacle over with. She'd lose, leaving 2028 wide open. But they can get that with Biden with less damage. And if somehow or another she actually won ... she would not only take up 2028, but stink up the Democrat's brand for a decade or more.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @anonymous, @Almost Missouri, @Jack D, @Colin Wright, @Anonymous

    , @J.Ross
    @epebble

    They've been saying this for days, which confirms that they're still stuck in their misreading of how meme magic works: Joe/Jill aren't going anywhere and the handlers are trying to meme them out.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

  11. @UES guy
    Midnight. He’s back on script, talking about the Revolutionary War to wrap things up. This part was professionally written, whereas his description of the PA shooting was written by him and full of cliches. Everything in the middle seemed ad-libbed.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    his description of the PA shooting was written by him and full of cliches

    I shake my head in wonderment at some of the people who comment here.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Harry Baldwin

    Yeah, that was the best part of the speech: his heartfelt recounting of his brush with death, his expression of faith, and his tribute to the wounded and dead.

    He really should have wrapped up shortly after that. Instead he gave a long and kind of boring rally speech, but one bright spot was when the illegal migration chart came up and he quipped about how he hadn’t gotten a chance to get a good look at it last Saturday.

    , @Gandydancer
    @Harry Baldwin

    And his bandage was too big, I hear. Why is he trying to call attention to the fact that he was shot? It's such a divisive thing to do! (/sarc)

  12. I liked the Trump intro given by Dana White, the extreme-fighting president, who said that he’s met a lot of tough guys – – that’s my business – – but longtime-friend Trump is the toughest guy he’s ever known. And, he continued, at the same time as the toughness, Trump possesses a genuine empathy for people and their families.

    Watching the goings-on I was reminded of e.e. cummings’ “The Enormous Room” in which cummings, contained and entrapped, describes a variety of dubious characters trapped with him. cummings highlighted the fact that amusement was crucial to the denizens, because amusement took their minds off their suffering. And, the occupants, although united, were restricted. But probably I should have saved this as a comment following the Dem convention.

    • Replies: @Erik L
    @SafeNow

    Normally I'd take that Dana White statement as hyperbole but it might be true. I imagine myself being subject the the lawfare and other dirty tricks that Trump has endured. I'm certainly not the standard of toughness, but I know I would said "fuck this" and quit long ago

  13. Well Trump was Masterful. He delivered the greatest Comeback speech in the history of oratory.

    Still voting RFK, but…. Gotta give props.

  14. Why is Trump still talking at approaching midnight on the East Coast?

    Don’t understand why organizers can keep things on schedule.

    And if Trump is droning on and on then that is idiocy. Because of the shooting Trump probably has more of not-already-made-up-their-mind audience than otherwise. Ergo this was Trump’s opportunity to really make the case for himself. A time for discipline, clarity and real excellence.

    I hope he had solid focus that the “Biden Administration”‘s open border is a war upon Americans. And tied it explicitly to issues Steve helpfully wrapped up as “Affordable Family Formation” and explicitly to screwing young Americans out of opportunities for marriage/home/family–“The American Dream”. “War on Young Americans” has a nice ring to it. So does “War on the American Dream”.

    Also hope he gave a shout out to the hero dad murdered in PA. And tied that again to our “elites” war upon Americans, attacking and demonizing every American who simply wishes to keep their nation and live their life.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @AnotherDad


    I hope he had solid focus that the “Biden Administration”‘s open border is a war upon Americans... Also hope he gave a shout out to the hero dad murdered in PA
     
    LOL Maybe you should spend less time hoping and more time doing even a modicum of research. So lazy

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Gandydancer

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @AnotherDad

    Why not actually watch the speech before commenting on it?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Tom F., @Gandydancer

  15. Hate to say a cliched phrase, but Trump’s extra-long speech was actually 4-D chess.

    First, the non-4-D chess reasons:

    1. He’d been cooped up since Saturday without speaking publicly. For a guy with his ego (or any politician) it would be torture. So he had a lot to say.

    2. He was on a big stage primetime with the whole world watching and his enemy on the ropes. He thus wanted to pound it in as much as possible. I’m sure his ego would love if his speech was the last political thing America sees before Joe Biden resigns on Sunday, thus making it seem like his speech made Joe resign.

    3. The gunshot wound/assassination attempt granted him the “he was shot less than 5 days ago, he almost died, he can say whatever he wants for as long as he want tonight” card. The fact that he did not appear nervous or scared when speaking after so short a time also made it riveting, even though overlong and rambling in the 2nd half..

    4. This is how the man speaks publicly: goes off script, barely canned talking points, rambling, casual style, interactions with audience while talking, repeats himself, longer than necessary.

    5. The pathos of the ear and the dead fireman and the assassination needed to be milked, and it was. That added at least 20 min.

    Now, the 4-D chess reason:

    Trump, at age 78, and 5 days removed from being shot, spoke coherently and intelligently for 1.5 hours (93 minutes) from 10:30pm EST to 12am (9:30-11pm CST). Meanwhile, Joe Biden went to bed at 8pm, is down with COVID, missed the speech, and can’t speak coherently for 15 minutes even when not sick.

    The contrast could not be clearer. Trump is doing what Brandon could not do anymore and likely could never do. This was Trump’s “Theodore Roosevelt keeps giving a speech after being shot” time, while Brandon was asleep and didn’t have the energy to even listen. That will stick in people’s minds, if the Trump campaign play it right.

    Which one is presidential, and which one is a pretender?

    Also, the best speech I saw was, unironically, Hulk Hogan. 10 short minutes, hit all the highlights, engrossing, patriotic, energetic, funny, and nostalgic. He’s an excellent hype man.

    • Thanks: AnotherDad
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @R.G. Camara

    Great comment. Trump came across as human, reflective, very appreciative to be alive. Before he talked about the shooting, he said something like, "I haven't talked about it yet and I'm only going to talk about it once because it's hard" -- that really struck me. There are things in my own life I can't talk about because I fall apart as soon as I begin. Trump talked matter of factly about one of those sorts of things, in full control of his emotions. He's a strong man. So he rambled a bit--as you said, he earned it. This wasn't the time for a typical political speech.

    As far as Biden having Covid, how do we know that's even true? We are so barraged with lies we can take nothing as given. Claiming Covid is a perfect excuse to hunker down in Delaware while negotiating for the largest severance package he can extract.

    Replies: @Corn, @Prester John, @Old Prude

    , @Goddard
    @R.G. Camara


    Also, the best speech I saw was, unironically, Hulk Hogan.
     
    Hulk was good, but Dana White was even better.
    , @jb
    @R.G. Camara


    Now, the 4-D chess reason:

    Trump, at age 78, and 5 days removed from being shot, spoke coherently and intelligently for 1.5 hours (93 minutes) from 10:30pm EST to 12am (9:30-11pm CST). Meanwhile, Joe Biden went to bed at 8pm, is down with COVID, missed the speech, and can’t speak coherently for 15 minutes even when not sick.
     
    The problem is that there is a very good chance he will not be facing Biden in November, in which case this reasoning goes out the window.

    Personally I think the man just genuinely has no discipline. I thought the beginning of the speech went well, I gritted my teeth and stuck with it after he went off script and started with the usual rambling bullshit, and finally bailed when he got to the Late Great Hannibal Lecter. WTF? The whole point of the acceptance speech was to win over the sort of people who don't go to his rallies and don't appreciate this sort of thing. I'm sure his handlers understood that perfectly well, and must have been dying inside.

    Probably Vance too. I like Vance, and I think has good intentions, but he's sold his soul for a chance to do some good over the next four years and maybe have a shot at the presidency in 2028. Unlike Trump, he's a grownup, and I assume he knows what he's in for if he wins, but wow! The NYT had a running commentary on Trump's speech, and at one point someone got a text from a Democratic official saying "this is the Trump we were expecting and hoping for!". In fact there were concerns that Trump's speech was so bad that it would dissuade Biden from dropping out! All in all, very disappointing. (Also: Hulk Hogan? Chris Rock? Really???)

    Replies: @jb, @R.G. Camara, @Gandydancer

  16. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GS0iBAKXcAAa1aB?format=jpg&name=medium

    In the most famously head turning chart of 2024 (highlighted again at the convention), what exactly caused the spike in March 2019? Trump is right in that it illustrates how horrid Biden has been on immigration/border security but looking at the four years of Trump on the chart doesn’t look like a vast improvement to the Obama years preceding it.

    • Replies: @mousey
    @Senator Brundlefly

    Is that arrow in the right place? The low point seems to indicate the beginning of Covid lockdown. Trump left office a year later from where the arrow is indicating. You can see the step change for family crossings from Biden opening the floodgates when he transitioned into office.

  17. No one is naming the Jew, therefore nothing serious or substantial will get done. As usual.

    Can’t have a real country or a real politics, if you can’t or won’t identify its real mortal enemies.

    • Agree: Linus
    • LOL: kaganovitch
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Trump got plenty done last time, and has a proper animus toward and awareness of the saboteurs who stopped him from doing more; furthermore their ultimate weapons -- the lockdown and election theft -- are no longer credible. There will be economic collapse and continued subservience toward Israel but there is every reason to expect tremendous reforms.

    , @MGB
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Netanyahu will be speaking before Congress next week, so give a listen.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    No one is naming the Jew
     
    At the convention conclusion, when all the attending family members were on stage, for a moment Kushner was in the background and I was shouting at the screen: “Hey Trump! He’s right behind you! For fuck’s sake, turn around!”
    , @AnotherDad
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    No one is naming the Jew, therefore nothing serious or substantial will get done. As usual.

    Can’t have a real country or a real politics, if you can’t or won’t identify its real mortal enemies.
     

    Disagree.

    I'm upfront that I think the minoritarian cancer is basically Jewish ideology, pushed and propagandized to ascendency by American Jews. And that the "scientists" pushing the whole anti-genetic, nurture-uber-alles, ideology** were/are Jews doing political "science" in the service of minoritarianism. (**Basically, that human group differences in intelligence and personality are the sole area in the whole reach of biology unaffected by genes.)


    But there's no need politically to run around "naming the Jew". No, you simply attack the bad behavior, bad policies, bad ideology.

    Same as with blacks and crime. You don't "name the black", you denounce crime, call for "law and order" and locking up criminals. If blacks start whining that denouncing crime is attacking blacks, or blacks are more likely to be locked up, you respond "Well then blacks should do better. Stop tolerating criminals in your communities—zero tolerance. Black men should work harder to keep their sons on the straight and narrow—out of gangs, off the criminal path. It's your community, you need to fix it."

    Likewise, you denounce the immigration and open border treason. If some Jews start pointing out that you're naming mostly Jews—ex. Mayorkas, Garland, the "Biden Administration" traitors--and pipe up with their usual "anti-Semite!", you respond the same way: "So you're telling me Jews have a problem being loyal Americans? Putting the interests of their fellow Americans and our posterity first? Well then Jews should do better. Patriotic Jews should work on routing this virus of disloyalty out of their community. It's not like there aren't plenty of Jews—like Stephen Miller—who are patriotic and want to preserve America for Americans and our posterity. Jews should do better and fix it." The media Jews, of course, will squeal like stuck pigs when you say "disloyal". But while Americans are ho-hum philo-Semitic, if Jews starting broadcasting that Jews in fact do find pushing immigration rather than loyalty to the interests of Americans part of their "Jewish identity", that will just cause normie Americans to go "hmm". It's not a winner for Jews.

    Same with anything else. You call for normality, decency, sanity, national loyalty and denounce the destructive people, pushing crime, immivasion, anti-whitism, trannies, anti-family, anti-natalism, cultural depravity etc. If someone wants to pop-up and say "but that's who we are!", you respond "Well then who you are sucks. Do better."

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Colin Wright, @rebel yell, @Jack D

  18. @Harry Baldwin
    @UES guy

    his description of the PA shooting was written by him and full of cliches

    I shake my head in wonderment at some of the people who comment here.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Gandydancer

    Yeah, that was the best part of the speech: his heartfelt recounting of his brush with death, his expression of faith, and his tribute to the wounded and dead.

    He really should have wrapped up shortly after that. Instead he gave a long and kind of boring rally speech, but one bright spot was when the illegal migration chart came up and he quipped about how he hadn’t gotten a chance to get a good look at it last Saturday.

    • Agree: kaganovitch, Barnard
  19. RIP, Bob Newhart (the Willie Mays of comedy–an all time great)

    One of the observers (noticers) of standup.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon, Bernard
    • Troll: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    I enjoyed Bob Newhart's comedy but I can't forget Don Rickles introducing him as "One of the great stammering idiots of our time."

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Rapparee

  20. @epebble
    @Corn

    Ignoring any substance or policy in the speech, standing on two legs and speaking for nearly two hours without taking a sip of water definitely passes the fitness test against Biden.

    However, the game may be changing ...

    People Close to Biden Say He Appears to Accept He May Have to Leave the Race
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/18/us/politics/biden-election-drop-out.html

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @J.Ross

    However, the game may be changing …

    People Close to Biden Say He Appears to Accept He May Have to Leave the Race

    I really don’t see how it helps.

    The Democrats needed to get old Joe to formally bow out at least a year ago, so they could have an open cycle of candidates. Really, it should never have even gotten that far. That should have been baked in in 2020. Joe saying he was a one term “Return to Normalcy” candidate should have been a condition of supporting his run, with everyone saying that it is unacceptable to run an 80+ candidate.

    Now if Joe drops out they have to either run Kamala or spurn her–a black!, a woman!, a black woman!!! In the old 20th century Democratic party you could have personal considerations–competency, character, demeanor, electability–bump someone aside. But you’re going to give a “black woman” the bum’s rush?

    The only upside I see for them is that they’d probably get the Harris debacle over with. She’d lose, leaving 2028 wide open. But they can get that with Biden with less damage. And if somehow or another she actually won … she would not only take up 2028, but stink up the Democrat’s brand for a decade or more.

    • Agree: Frau Katze
    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @AnotherDad


    so they could have an open cycle of candidates
     
    It’s almost as if the Democratic leaders didn’t want the voters to have a say in selecting the nominee.

    Bernie Sanders is still hugely popular among a certain segment of the Democratic base and, despite his advanced age, he’s still pretty sharp.

    The Democratic Iowa caucus debacle in 2020 is all but forgotten now, but at the time the Bernie Bros were screaming that the fix was in. Bernie won the popular vote but the counting dragged on for days and in the end Pete Bootyjudge (sp? I could never remember how to spell his name) was declared the official winner. Then Bernie won New Hampshire and Nevada.

    Biden won the next contest in South Carolina, but the polls indicated that Sanders was leading in most of the Super Tuesday primaries. But then several candidates suddenly dropped out and endorsed Biden. He ended up winning most if not all of the Super Tuesday states, and within a week or two his nomination was secured. (Super Tuesday was March 3. Ten days later - Friday the 13th - Trump declared a national emergency over COVID.)

    There was a lingering sense among many Democrats that Bernie had been robbed.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Alan Mercer, @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar

    , @anonymous
    @AnotherDad


    Now if Joe drops out they have to either run Kamala or spurn her–a black!, a woman!, a black woman!!! In the old 20th century Democratic party you could have personal considerations–competency, character, demeanor, electability–bump someone aside. But you’re going to give a “black woman” the bum’s rush?
     
    Good point. As long as the Dems are betraying themselves, they should turn their weasel gun on Kamala immediately, and "reveal" that she had an Indian upbringing. Show pictures of her as a girl with that dot on her forehead, wearing Indian garb. MSM Dem flunkies like Rachael Maddow and the sociopaths at Morning Joe should present it as simply objective reporting. Eliminate the false "black" angle. Choke the "black" out of her before she can catch her breath.

    Too bad Dem leadership can’t think and move fast. Of course, if they could, they wouldn’t be liberal democrats.

    I think the biggest problem the Dems face is, because it’s so late in the game, they can’t find a candidate big enough for them to justify their rigging of votes, and even they know what a miserably inept shitwad Kamala is.

    I keep telling my shrill liberal friends, "if you guys had just not fucked Trump over in the last election, he’d be leaving in a few months from now, never to wield political power again! Now ya got four MORE years to go, you crazy morons!" and I still stand by that observation.

    Replies: @International Jew

    , @Almost Missouri
    @AnotherDad


    they have to either run Kamala or spurn her–a black!, a woman!, a black woman!!!
    ...
    get the Harris debacle over with
     
    I don't quite understand the DNC's aversion to running with Kamala. Yeah okay, she's supposedly a crappy person. As if Backfire Joe wasn't a crappy a person? Their media whores have already demonstrated there's no level of degradation to which they won't stoop to promote whatever narrative asked of them no matter how implausible. And Kamala doesn't come with the Lady Macbeth spouse, coke-addled felony-and-corruption-broadcasting son, and bizarre daughter-showering and child stranger-danger habits. Kamala's already married to her Jewish minder, so they don't have to appoint another embarrassingly kosher kabinet for her. Whatever piece of crap she is, it is less than the crap they've been making everyone else put up with the last four years. Yeah okay, she's a skank who BJed her way up the party ladder. So what? The Dems can look at their base and say, "Hey, we've all been there, right?" and they'll shrug it off, because they have. Kamala's far from perfect, but she looks like all upside compared to where they are now. Yet, there's some stubborn resistance to going with the "black" woman they all insisted was so great four years ago.

    The only way I can figure it is that they can't keep her office staffed because she's such a bitch. But that's probably just because they're letting her choose her own staff and so she chooses B!lack women who are just as bitchy and even more thin-skinned than herself. But if she's President, then she has to accept the cabinet, and I'm sure those guys will have no problem telling her what to do. There's still the problem of her low-IQ vapid speechifying, but after four years of excusing Cadaver Joe's necrotic emissions, Kamala's waftings would be a veritable breath of fresh air. Vacuity is good by comparison.

    It's almost like they just don't want to Celebrate Diversity.

    Replies: @Corn, @Colin Wright, @AnotherDad

    , @Jack D
    @AnotherDad


    I really don’t see how it helps.
     
    Yeah, everyone agrees that Old Joe has to be put out to pasture but what next?

    They are pretty much stuck with Kamala. Anything else will be seen as a betrayal by the black base.

    Kamala is even worse than Joe. Her Presidential campaign fell completely flat. Joe Biden had some appeal as Mr. Blue Collar union guy in the swing states, esp. PA and Michigan. What sort of appeal does Kamala have to this sort of swing voter? She might as well be from Mars to them.

    She is an unlikable person in general. Not even Democrats like her. Not even blacks who on some level must understand that she is a big phony and not "one of them". Obama was a phony too but he at least walked the walk, living in Chicago and marrying a black woman and having black children and going to a black church, etc. Does Harris even have a religion? Is she a Hindu or what? She is the quintessential 21st century mystery meat elite.
    , @Colin Wright
    @AnotherDad


    '...if somehow or another she actually won … she would not only take up 2028, but stink up the Democrat’s brand for a decade or more...'
     
    If she actually won, it could be academic what the Democrat's 'brand' was in a decade. How was the 'brand' of the Kadets by 1925?

    I think we're headed out the door of the plane without a parachute. I suspect electing Trump won't be enough -- but four more years of either Biden or Harris is definitely not a step in the right direction.

    I would say buy stock in ammunition distributors -- but will there be a functioning stock market in a decade? Well, probably...but we're heading towards some radical rearrangement of the deck chairs -- and I doubt I'll like it. For one, us oldsters need a functioning and properly subsidized health care system. Hard to get that when electric power is a thing of the past.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    , @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad

    This is some kind of mass delusion, where you have an election stolen from you, the people who stole it have total power for 4 years, then for some reason they let you win the next time.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  21. @AnotherDad

    Why is Trump still talking at approaching midnight on the East Coast?
     
    Don't understand why organizers can keep things on schedule.

    And if Trump is droning on and on then that is idiocy. Because of the shooting Trump probably has more of not-already-made-up-their-mind audience than otherwise. Ergo this was Trump's opportunity to really make the case for himself. A time for discipline, clarity and real excellence.

    I hope he had solid focus that the "Biden Administration"'s open border is a war upon Americans. And tied it explicitly to issues Steve helpfully wrapped up as "Affordable Family Formation" and explicitly to screwing young Americans out of opportunities for marriage/home/family--"The American Dream". "War on Young Americans" has a nice ring to it. So does "War on the American Dream".

    Also hope he gave a shout out to the hero dad murdered in PA. And tied that again to our "elites" war upon Americans, attacking and demonizing every American who simply wishes to keep their nation and live their life.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Harry Baldwin

    I hope he had solid focus that the “Biden Administration”‘s open border is a war upon Americans… Also hope he gave a shout out to the hero dad murdered in PA

    LOL Maybe you should spend less time hoping and more time doing even a modicum of research. So lazy

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @ScarletNumber


    LOL Maybe you should spend less time hoping and more time doing even a modicum of research. So lazy
     
    Yep. But less lazy than my norm. My walking time--when sunset hits, I can switch my walk onto the golf course. (Picked up four balls last night, but putting with my shoe is not particularly accurate.)

    Seriously, I rely on y'all, my fellow iSteve commenters, to bring me up to speed.

    I've vote for Trump a third time. Was thinking of slapping up my own sign "Trump: Because he pisses off all the right people!" But listening to Trump--or any of these guys--is just too depressing, as there's such a gap between their blather and a clear articulation of the existential crisis in the West and what needs to be done.

    Replies: @Jack D, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @danand, @John Johnson

    , @Gandydancer
    @ScarletNumber


    Maybe you should spend less time hoping and more time doing even a modicum of research. So lazy
     
    On the contrary, posting what AnotherDad did here IS a form or research. Expecting any answer except snark from someone as ignorant as you would obviously be hopeless, but not everyone posting here is like that.
  22. @AnotherDad
    @epebble


    However, the game may be changing …

    People Close to Biden Say He Appears to Accept He May Have to Leave the Race
     
    I really don't see how it helps.

    The Democrats needed to get old Joe to formally bow out at least a year ago, so they could have an open cycle of candidates. Really, it should never have even gotten that far. That should have been baked in in 2020. Joe saying he was a one term "Return to Normalcy" candidate should have been a condition of supporting his run, with everyone saying that it is unacceptable to run an 80+ candidate.

    Now if Joe drops out they have to either run Kamala or spurn her--a black!, a woman!, a black woman!!! In the old 20th century Democratic party you could have personal considerations--competency, character, demeanor, electability--bump someone aside. But you're going to give a "black woman" the bum's rush?

    The only upside I see for them is that they'd probably get the Harris debacle over with. She'd lose, leaving 2028 wide open. But they can get that with Biden with less damage. And if somehow or another she actually won ... she would not only take up 2028, but stink up the Democrat's brand for a decade or more.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @anonymous, @Almost Missouri, @Jack D, @Colin Wright, @Anonymous

    so they could have an open cycle of candidates

    It’s almost as if the Democratic leaders didn’t want the voters to have a say in selecting the nominee.

    Bernie Sanders is still hugely popular among a certain segment of the Democratic base and, despite his advanced age, he’s still pretty sharp.

    The Democratic Iowa caucus debacle in 2020 is all but forgotten now, but at the time the Bernie Bros were screaming that the fix was in. Bernie won the popular vote but the counting dragged on for days and in the end Pete Bootyjudge (sp? I could never remember how to spell his name) was declared the official winner. Then Bernie won New Hampshire and Nevada.

    Biden won the next contest in South Carolina, but the polls indicated that Sanders was leading in most of the Super Tuesday primaries. But then several candidates suddenly dropped out and endorsed Biden. He ended up winning most if not all of the Super Tuesday states, and within a week or two his nomination was secured. (Super Tuesday was March 3. Ten days later – Friday the 13th – Trump declared a national emergency over COVID.)

    There was a lingering sense among many Democrats that Bernie had been robbed.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Stan Adams


    The Democratic Iowa caucus debacle in 2020 is all but forgotten now, but at the time the Bernie Bros were screaming that the fix was in. Bernie won the popular vote but the counting dragged on for days and in the end Pete Bootyjudge (sp? I could never remember how to spell his name) was declared the official winner.
     
    DNC Takes Over Counting Remaining Iowa Votes
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLY8qHAt_Ls
    Feb 4, 2020

    Buttigieg Smiles Creepily Instead Of Talking To Reporters About Iowa
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIWBIOtX3Rk
    Feb 6, 2020

    https://twitter.com/jimmy_dore/status/1224965506039345152

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Alan Mercer
    @Stan Adams


    Sanders was leading in most of the Super Tuesday primaries. But then several candidates suddenly dropped out and endorsed Biden.
     
    Thanks for bringing this up. I was amazed at the fact that those candidates who might have split the moderate vote with Biden - namely, Buttigieg and Klobuchar - elected to drop out just BEFORE Super Tueday, whereas Warren, who split the left vote with Sanders, dropped out just AFTER Super Tuesday. I couldn't believe how little attention this curious coincidence got. I knew at that point Biden would be the nominee.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Stan Adams


    There was a lingering sense among many Democrats that Bernie had been robbed.
     
    And yet they all dutifully got behind corrupt, senile, influence-peddlin', plagiarizin' Joe.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Stan Adams

    I'm married to a hardcore centrist, and find it fascinating that the only candidates that ever got her excited in our almost two decades together were Sanders and J.D. Vance. She'd read Vance's book when it came out. It disgusted me that she took the kids with her to vote for Sanders in the primary eight years ago, but that was partly my fault for insisting on attending the other party's caucus.

    Both Sanders and Vance know which buttons to push that reverberate outside their bases. There is a thread common to their distant positions. You can't vote for Vance without voting for Trump-- well, maybe there is a state or two where you can, but not ours-- so expect to see some conflicted people out there.

  23. @Corn
    Trump’s speech was too long. Though I wonder if that was partially by design.

    “Look at me! You know Joe couldn’t last this long!”

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @epebble, @Percival2

    Xi Jinping has been known to deliver 3-hour long speeches at the CCP congress. But in his case there is this Communist tradition of presenting elaborate political ideology through such a medium.

    Trump has always worked best with soundbites and when things are short and sweet. He certainly isn’t an intellectual and he shouldn’t try to be.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Percival2


    Xi Jinping has been known to deliver 3-hour long speeches at the CCP congress. But in his case there is this Communist tradition of presenting elaborate political ideology through such a medium.
     
    Speaking of which, is there any evidence for the stroke story?
    , @Corn
    @Percival2


    Xi Jinping has been known to deliver 3-hour long speeches at the CCP congress
     
    .

    I also think that perhaps TV and internet have shortened our attention spans. I believe I’ve read that 100-150 years ago that two or three hour speeches were common. Now Trump’s hour and a half long speech is treated as unprecedented ramble.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Percival2

    He comes off as dull and pedantic, and makes a lot of malapropisms similar to Dubya.

    Here he entirely bungled an answer to a Russian moderator, in front of Putin

    https://twitter.com/xinwendiaocha/status/1528893233756921856

    But he's gotten more confident in this term, and people are getting used to his style as being steady.

    His predecessor OTOH can free wheel in English Russian and Japanese.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWjtB9QV8wo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViyKlDOYvi8

  24. anonymous[619] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    @epebble


    However, the game may be changing …

    People Close to Biden Say He Appears to Accept He May Have to Leave the Race
     
    I really don't see how it helps.

    The Democrats needed to get old Joe to formally bow out at least a year ago, so they could have an open cycle of candidates. Really, it should never have even gotten that far. That should have been baked in in 2020. Joe saying he was a one term "Return to Normalcy" candidate should have been a condition of supporting his run, with everyone saying that it is unacceptable to run an 80+ candidate.

    Now if Joe drops out they have to either run Kamala or spurn her--a black!, a woman!, a black woman!!! In the old 20th century Democratic party you could have personal considerations--competency, character, demeanor, electability--bump someone aside. But you're going to give a "black woman" the bum's rush?

    The only upside I see for them is that they'd probably get the Harris debacle over with. She'd lose, leaving 2028 wide open. But they can get that with Biden with less damage. And if somehow or another she actually won ... she would not only take up 2028, but stink up the Democrat's brand for a decade or more.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @anonymous, @Almost Missouri, @Jack D, @Colin Wright, @Anonymous

    Now if Joe drops out they have to either run Kamala or spurn her–a black!, a woman!, a black woman!!! In the old 20th century Democratic party you could have personal considerations–competency, character, demeanor, electability–bump someone aside. But you’re going to give a “black woman” the bum’s rush?

    Good point. As long as the Dems are betraying themselves, they should turn their weasel gun on Kamala immediately, and “reveal” that she had an Indian upbringing. Show pictures of her as a girl with that dot on her forehead, wearing Indian garb. MSM Dem flunkies like Rachael Maddow and the sociopaths at Morning Joe should present it as simply objective reporting. Eliminate the false “black” angle. Choke the “black” out of her before she can catch her breath.

    Too bad Dem leadership can’t think and move fast. Of course, if they could, they wouldn’t be liberal democrats.

    I think the biggest problem the Dems face is, because it’s so late in the game, they can’t find a candidate big enough for them to justify their rigging of votes, and even they know what a miserably inept shitwad Kamala is.

    I keep telling my shrill liberal friends, “if you guys had just not fucked Trump over in the last election, he’d be leaving in a few months from now, never to wield political power again! Now ya got four MORE years to go, you crazy morons!” and I still stand by that observation.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @anonymous

    Maybe they'll nominate an AI version of George Floyd. Why not? The standards of fakery they've established with Biden already take them halfway there.

    Replies: @deep anonymous

  25. I see everything Microsoft is poorly today, bar my ancient Windows 7 box.

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/jul/19/windows-global-it-outage-what-we-know-so-far

    https://twitter.com/the__DAW/status/1814206133277528285

    Be interesting to see what happens here at opening time, if indeed there is one:

    https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/crwd

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Was it truly around the world, or just among the Atlanticist war addicts who think that they are the world?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  26. In general, the convention was a mix of goofball boomer cuckoldry combined with a glimmers of something better. I believe JD Vance said America wasn’t an “idea”, it’s an actual people.

    • Agree: Mr. Anon
    • Replies: @Prester John
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality

    Didn't watch/hear Vance's speech but if he said that, then he articulated the reason why this country is divided.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality


    In general, the convention was a mix of goofball boomer cuckoldry combined with a glimmers of something better.
     
    They even managed to bring out one of the last living WWII vets in a final act of Greatest Generation worship/envy and paraded him on the speaking platform as if he were a museum piece. Nazi, Nazi, Nazi (nobody ever calls them "Germans" anymore, as the actual generation that fought that war did most of the time). Did we mention we beat the Nazis! (Don't mention the Red Army). USA! USA! USA!

    I believe JD Vance said America wasn’t an “idea”, it’s an actual people.
     
    He said it was more than "just an idea". But still, that's better than I've heard from any other American politician. It was novel that he actually stated what is obviously true that America is a people and a nation. Well, it was once, anyway. Maybe not anymore. I would like to see that whole "America is an idea", "America is an experiment", and the rest, buried in an unmarked grave.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Gandydancer

  27. When I got home from work at 6pm, Mrs. Prude told me the speech would be on in half an hour.

    We settled to watch it eating our beans and weenies, with sauerkraut and beer. I woke up on the couch at midnight to listen to Trump promising the Big Rock Candy Mountain.

    I liked the normal people speeches, and enjoyed looking at that pretty lady lawyer, but slept through the rest of the stuff, until the very end.

    Golly, Melania is a nice looking lady.

  28. I doubt that there are objective standards for evaluating anything in politics, but I will give it a try:
    So far the Republican Convention has been equal parts
    1. Racial Identity politics.
    2. Israeli asslicking.
    3. Pagan Idolatry.
    4. Cult of Personalty propagandism.

    So I am sure the Repubs are going to make everything all better, and never you all mind that once again they have already proven themselves even more vile than Democrats, if for no other reason than Democrats actually mean what they say, Republicans are just false and purgered liars in all things.

    • Agree: BB753
    • LOL: bomag
  29. @anonymous
    @AnotherDad


    Now if Joe drops out they have to either run Kamala or spurn her–a black!, a woman!, a black woman!!! In the old 20th century Democratic party you could have personal considerations–competency, character, demeanor, electability–bump someone aside. But you’re going to give a “black woman” the bum’s rush?
     
    Good point. As long as the Dems are betraying themselves, they should turn their weasel gun on Kamala immediately, and "reveal" that she had an Indian upbringing. Show pictures of her as a girl with that dot on her forehead, wearing Indian garb. MSM Dem flunkies like Rachael Maddow and the sociopaths at Morning Joe should present it as simply objective reporting. Eliminate the false "black" angle. Choke the "black" out of her before she can catch her breath.

    Too bad Dem leadership can’t think and move fast. Of course, if they could, they wouldn’t be liberal democrats.

    I think the biggest problem the Dems face is, because it’s so late in the game, they can’t find a candidate big enough for them to justify their rigging of votes, and even they know what a miserably inept shitwad Kamala is.

    I keep telling my shrill liberal friends, "if you guys had just not fucked Trump over in the last election, he’d be leaving in a few months from now, never to wield political power again! Now ya got four MORE years to go, you crazy morons!" and I still stand by that observation.

    Replies: @International Jew

    Maybe they’ll nominate an AI version of George Floyd. Why not? The standards of fakery they’ve established with Biden already take them halfway there.

    • Agree: bomag, Liza
    • LOL: Ron Mexico, Mr. Anon
    • Replies: @deep anonymous
    @International Jew

    Maxx Headroom for President.

  30. After the speeches of Trump and Vance, so tightly packed with fictions and false promises, it strikes me this morning that MAGA is a kind of Zionism for Murikans. It is the dream of a past that never was, orchestrated by powerful shadow interests that hate democracy and freedom. The big difference here, perhaps, is that they have so much contempt for people who are consistently so easy to fool. Our problem is that other party also fronts for the same interests. Both are equally committed to maintaining the unjust status quo that enables their fierce grip on power. When change finally does come, it will be the result of the cabal’s overseas meddling, which the great majority of the human family is organizing to end.

    • Replies: @Currahee
    @Observator

    "human family"???
    LOL!

  31. A couple other observations: Scarce applause for Pompeo’s trashing of Putin, and Tucker Carlson was hopped-up on coke.

    • Replies: @Anon87
    @Old Prude

    Tucker was jacked on Zyn, he's very open about it.

    , @Mark G.
    @Old Prude

    "Scarce applause for Pompeo's trashing of Putin."

    The majority of Republicans do not really believe Putin is the next Hitler who is going to overrun Europe if we don't stop him in the Ukraine. This is why the majority of House Republicans voted against the last Ukraine military assistance bill.

    Biden has lost his proxy war against Russia in the Ukraine. This was just one of his numerous bad policies while in office. He just had bad judgement, as did the people who voted for him in 2020.

    With our two trillion dollar a year federal deficits, we are headed for future cuts in our nine hundred billion dollar a year military and the adoption of a more noninterventionist foreign policy. We are nearing the end of these overseas adventures.

    Replies: @HA, @Anonymous

  32. @Stan Adams
    @AnotherDad


    so they could have an open cycle of candidates
     
    It’s almost as if the Democratic leaders didn’t want the voters to have a say in selecting the nominee.

    Bernie Sanders is still hugely popular among a certain segment of the Democratic base and, despite his advanced age, he’s still pretty sharp.

    The Democratic Iowa caucus debacle in 2020 is all but forgotten now, but at the time the Bernie Bros were screaming that the fix was in. Bernie won the popular vote but the counting dragged on for days and in the end Pete Bootyjudge (sp? I could never remember how to spell his name) was declared the official winner. Then Bernie won New Hampshire and Nevada.

    Biden won the next contest in South Carolina, but the polls indicated that Sanders was leading in most of the Super Tuesday primaries. But then several candidates suddenly dropped out and endorsed Biden. He ended up winning most if not all of the Super Tuesday states, and within a week or two his nomination was secured. (Super Tuesday was March 3. Ten days later - Friday the 13th - Trump declared a national emergency over COVID.)

    There was a lingering sense among many Democrats that Bernie had been robbed.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Alan Mercer, @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar

    The Democratic Iowa caucus debacle in 2020 is all but forgotten now, but at the time the Bernie Bros were screaming that the fix was in. Bernie won the popular vote but the counting dragged on for days and in the end Pete Bootyjudge (sp? I could never remember how to spell his name) was declared the official winner.

    DNC Takes Over Counting Remaining Iowa Votes

    Feb 4, 2020

    Buttigieg Smiles Creepily Instead Of Talking To Reporters About Iowa

    Feb 6, 2020

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @MEH 0910

    It’s hilarious that the neighbor on the same street where Buttigieg grow up on in South Bend is none other than E. Michael Jones.


    Home Alone: A Neighbor's Thoughts on Pete Buttigieg
    April 01, 2019/ E. Michael Jones

    https://culturewars.com/news/home-alone-a-neighbors-thoughts-on-pete-buttigieg
     

    Replies: @Anonymous

  33. @Senator Brundlefly
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GS0iBAKXcAAa1aB?format=jpg&name=medium

    In the most famously head turning chart of 2024 (highlighted again at the convention), what exactly caused the spike in March 2019? Trump is right in that it illustrates how horrid Biden has been on immigration/border security but looking at the four years of Trump on the chart doesn't look like a vast improvement to the Obama years preceding it.

    Replies: @mousey

    Is that arrow in the right place? The low point seems to indicate the beginning of Covid lockdown. Trump left office a year later from where the arrow is indicating. You can see the step change for family crossings from Biden opening the floodgates when he transitioned into office.

  34. @Matthew Kelly
    This isn't really my thing so I found them all...meh (if not cringe).

    The sole exception was Dana White. I found nothing to criticize in his speech, and much to praise.

    I gave Trump as much time as I could but had to get to bed. Seemed very somber at first, but started getting a bit more energetic and "Trumpy" as he went on. I'll trust there will be a zillion opinions on his performance tomorrow that I can catch up on...

    Replies: @Batman, @Torna atrás

    >The sole exception was Dana White. I found nothing to criticize in his speech, and much to praise.

    Dana White is a lot like Vince McMahon (of the WWE). He may be an executive, but that job is secondary to his primary job of being an a hypeman. Fighting hypemen are incredibly talented entertainers. It’s why the Rock (albeit with a healthy thumb on the scale from affirmative action) so easily transitioned to being a movie star. They’re all very good at captivating an arena full of fans with nothing more than a microphone and an empty stage.

    • Agree: Matthew Kelly
    • Replies: @Matthew Kelly
    @Batman

    Agreed, which is what caused me to be surprised by Hulk Hogan's rather lackluster (imho) speech. Of course, he's ancient so maybe it was just due to his age.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Batman


    It’s why the Rock (albeit with a healthy thumb on the scale from affirmative action) so easily transitioned to being a movie star.
     
    Samoans control Hollywood?
  35. @John Gruskos
    The Republican platform has two planks:
    1. Fight a war against Iran for the benefit of Israel.
    2. Eliminate the first amendment on campus for the benefit of Israel.

    Bill Ackman's Israel-First agenda can't generate any genuine enthusiasm.

    The revolutionary American nationalist energy of 2016 was completely and utterly absent.

    Replies: @Sgt Sternhammer, @Jack D, @Bragadocious, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Bill Jones

    #1 is false. #2 is pretty true. But there are a lot of other planks. If you can’t notice them, that says a lot about you.

    • Agree: Gandydancer
    • Replies: @John Gruskos
    @Sgt Sternhammer

    Ackman's attack on the 1st amendment is explicit in the platform, and the Neocon desire for war with Iran was evident in many speeches.

    The other planks won't matter if "Israel First" costs Trump the election.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  36. @Percival2
    @Corn

    Xi Jinping has been known to deliver 3-hour long speeches at the CCP congress. But in his case there is this Communist tradition of presenting elaborate political ideology through such a medium.

    Trump has always worked best with soundbites and when things are short and sweet. He certainly isn't an intellectual and he shouldn't try to be.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Corn, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Xi Jinping has been known to deliver 3-hour long speeches at the CCP congress. But in his case there is this Communist tradition of presenting elaborate political ideology through such a medium.

    Speaking of which, is there any evidence for the stroke story?

  37. Anonymous[946] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEH 0910
    @Stan Adams


    The Democratic Iowa caucus debacle in 2020 is all but forgotten now, but at the time the Bernie Bros were screaming that the fix was in. Bernie won the popular vote but the counting dragged on for days and in the end Pete Bootyjudge (sp? I could never remember how to spell his name) was declared the official winner.
     
    DNC Takes Over Counting Remaining Iowa Votes
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLY8qHAt_Ls
    Feb 4, 2020

    Buttigieg Smiles Creepily Instead Of Talking To Reporters About Iowa
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIWBIOtX3Rk
    Feb 6, 2020

    https://twitter.com/jimmy_dore/status/1224965506039345152

    Replies: @Anonymous

    It’s hilarious that the neighbor on the same street where Buttigieg grow up on in South Bend is none other than E. Michael Jones.

    Home Alone: A Neighbor’s Thoughts on Pete Buttigieg
    April 01, 2019/ E. Michael Jones

    https://culturewars.com/news/home-alone-a-neighbors-thoughts-on-pete-buttigieg

    • LOL: BB753, J.Ross
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Does anyone have a link to the complete article (don't want to pay to see the rest of it).

    Who is E Michael Jones and is that someone we are supposed to have heard of?

    Replies: @Ralph L, @Bill Jones

  38. Why did Trump go out of his way to attack Bukele?

  39. Anonymous[366] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump heaped a lot of praise on the Secret Service, and it was obvious with their heavy all-male presence around Trump at the RNC that it was itself partly PR in an attempt to repair their image.

    Secret Service should’ve worried about who they were recruiting years ago. Remember this story?

    Secret Service agent under fire after posting she wouldn’t take bullet for Trump

    Steph Solis
    USA TODAY
    Jan. 24, 2017

    The Secret Service is “taking appropriate action” after a special agent wrote a Facebook post suggesting she wouldn’t take a bullet for Donald Trump if he were president.

    A Secret Service spokesperson confirmed that the agency was aware of Facebook posts made by special agent Kerry O’Grady, but wouldn’t elaborate on them further because it is a personnel matter…

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/01/24/secret-service-agent-kerry-o-grady-social-media-posts/97015422/

    The Navy SEALs and other U.S. special forces don’t allow women in their ranks. Crazy that the protective detail of the U.S. president has women. What a mistake.

    • Replies: @Gordo
    @Anonymous

    Can’t entirely agree, there is room for a few female Secret Service agents.

    Suppose at some event your First Lady has to go to the toilet?

    Who will go in with her?

    , @Bill Jones
    @Anonymous


    Crazy that the protective detail of the U.S. president has women. What a mistake.
     
    In due time a DEI study will confirm what all decent people instinctively know: The bullet stopping power of short fat women is greater than that of tall muscular men.

    Nothing will get better until the 19th Amendment is repealed.
    Read Aristophanes' The Assemblywomen

    , @Gandydancer
    @Anonymous

    Are you sure that's a woman? Looks like a tranny.
    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/25/01/3C7A82B400000578-0-image-a-40_1485307882627.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Gordo

  40. If you bet in political markets, Victoria Nuland has spoken! She said there is no way Trump will be elected.

    I’m guessing Greg Cochran and Steve Sailer have laid down big money since they are on the same page as Nuland on Russia and many other issues. By the way, Victoria Nuland is married to raging neocon Robert Kagan. You won’t believe it, but Kagan identifies White Christians as a great political threat in America.

  41. @QCIC
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Will this energy be channeled constructively to repair and heal the USA? How can such a thing be accomplished?

    A lot of the serious problems in our country took decades to create. Is the American attention span long enough to achieve a correction?

    The border control and illegal immigrant issue has been a commonly recognized problem since the 1960's when this round started. What will it take to stop and then reverse a 65 year trend? The process is probably catastrophic for the American civilization but simultaneously has tens of millions of beneficiaries in the short run.

    Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown, @Jonathan Mason, @lctimeconstant

    I have my doubts about anything getting better under any administration in the current year. As other commenters have noted, until Israel-first ends, nothing really changes.

    But, RIGHT NOW, what’s the best alternative to Trump/Hogan? Four more years of Biden? Kamala? Some other unqualified DEI reject? Civil War Part 2 is sure taking its sweet time manifesting. Should we wait harder?

    Anyway, fixing the border / immigration issue is simply a matter of political will. No way in hell it’s happening under any democratic administration.

    Change my mind.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri, TWS
    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Fixing the border is easy if they are willing to use deadly force, hopefully this will happen soon. Deporting 20 million people takes a stronger will.

    The next serious financial downturn could cause major changes in America. Do the politicians simply want to let this happen and preside over the chaos or are they intentionally causing it to happen?

    , @Prester John
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    "Anyway, fixing the border / immigration issue is simply a matter of political will. No way in hell it’s happening under any democratic administration."

    My fear is that it won't under a Republican administration either. I'm all in with Trump on this one but...I suspect that the fix was in long ago as agreed upon by both political parties.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    I mostly agree, but there may be a subtlety that outsiders miss, which is that the Jewish domination of the US Federal government has gotten so overwhelming that now the primary polarity is between the American Jews (dominant in DNC) and the Israeli Jews (dominant in GOP).

    In foreign policy, both agree that prosecuting Israeli interests should be the US priority, but the Israeli Jews are indifferent about the Ukraine, support of which drains resources Israel would rather use and which unnecessarily antagonizes Russia, whom Israelis would rather rather keep quiescent pending conflict with Iran, while the DNC Jews are keen to salvage and even enrich their oligarchy syndicates in the Ukraine no matter the cost in American treasure and Ukrainian blood.

    In domestic policy, American Jews can't shake their habit of welcoming immivaders, while Israeli Jews see no point in poisoning the blood of their primary military-industrial sponsor.

    So yes, both sides suck for America and the world, but arguably the Israeli/GOP side sucks less.

    Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Joe Biden had nearly four years to screw up things so badly that Trump will be lucky to get things halfway back to the way they were when he left. Can he really deport all the illegals Biden let in? Can he really get inflation down to where it was when he left office? Can he really clean up the corrupt FBI/CIA?

    I will vote for Trump knowing he can't undo all the damage Biden has done. I only expect him not to intentionally make things worse and to achieve some progress on a few fronts.

  42. @Percival2
    @Corn

    Xi Jinping has been known to deliver 3-hour long speeches at the CCP congress. But in his case there is this Communist tradition of presenting elaborate political ideology through such a medium.

    Trump has always worked best with soundbites and when things are short and sweet. He certainly isn't an intellectual and he shouldn't try to be.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Corn, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Xi Jinping has been known to deliver 3-hour long speeches at the CCP congress

    .

    I also think that perhaps TV and internet have shortened our attention spans. I believe I’ve read that 100-150 years ago that two or three hour speeches were common. Now Trump’s hour and a half long speech is treated as unprecedented ramble.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Corn

    In Victorian England the pages of the Times were full of verbatim transcripts of the speeches in Commons and Lords.

    Didn't need some reporter summarising a debate - you could read the whole debate, for and against, in the Times pages.

    Obviously it helped if you didn't have money to make or lawns to mow. Just sit in your club and read the debates, maybe discuss them with your friends - and if you were in London, you might find the speakers from the debates in there later.

  43. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @QCIC

    I have my doubts about anything getting better under any administration in the current year. As other commenters have noted, until Israel-first ends, nothing really changes.

    But, RIGHT NOW, what’s the best alternative to Trump/Hogan? Four more years of Biden? Kamala? Some other unqualified DEI reject? Civil War Part 2 is sure taking its sweet time manifesting. Should we wait harder?

    Anyway, fixing the border / immigration issue is simply a matter of political will. No way in hell it’s happening under any democratic administration.

    Change my mind.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Prester John, @Almost Missouri, @Harry Baldwin

    Fixing the border is easy if they are willing to use deadly force, hopefully this will happen soon. Deporting 20 million people takes a stronger will.

    The next serious financial downturn could cause major changes in America. Do the politicians simply want to let this happen and preside over the chaos or are they intentionally causing it to happen?

  44. @AnotherDad
    @epebble


    However, the game may be changing …

    People Close to Biden Say He Appears to Accept He May Have to Leave the Race
     
    I really don't see how it helps.

    The Democrats needed to get old Joe to formally bow out at least a year ago, so they could have an open cycle of candidates. Really, it should never have even gotten that far. That should have been baked in in 2020. Joe saying he was a one term "Return to Normalcy" candidate should have been a condition of supporting his run, with everyone saying that it is unacceptable to run an 80+ candidate.

    Now if Joe drops out they have to either run Kamala or spurn her--a black!, a woman!, a black woman!!! In the old 20th century Democratic party you could have personal considerations--competency, character, demeanor, electability--bump someone aside. But you're going to give a "black woman" the bum's rush?

    The only upside I see for them is that they'd probably get the Harris debacle over with. She'd lose, leaving 2028 wide open. But they can get that with Biden with less damage. And if somehow or another she actually won ... she would not only take up 2028, but stink up the Democrat's brand for a decade or more.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @anonymous, @Almost Missouri, @Jack D, @Colin Wright, @Anonymous

    they have to either run Kamala or spurn her–a black!, a woman!, a black woman!!!

    get the Harris debacle over with

    I don’t quite understand the DNC’s aversion to running with Kamala. Yeah okay, she’s supposedly a crappy person. As if Backfire Joe wasn’t a crappy a person? Their media whores have already demonstrated there’s no level of degradation to which they won’t stoop to promote whatever narrative asked of them no matter how implausible. And Kamala doesn’t come with the Lady Macbeth spouse, coke-addled felony-and-corruption-broadcasting son, and bizarre daughter-showering and child stranger-danger habits. Kamala’s already married to her Jewish minder, so they don’t have to appoint another embarrassingly kosher kabinet for her. Whatever piece of crap she is, it is less than the crap they’ve been making everyone else put up with the last four years. Yeah okay, she’s a skank who BJed her way up the party ladder. So what? The Dems can look at their base and say, “Hey, we’ve all been there, right?” and they’ll shrug it off, because they have. Kamala’s far from perfect, but she looks like all upside compared to where they are now. Yet, there’s some stubborn resistance to going with the “black” woman they all insisted was so great four years ago.

    The only way I can figure it is that they can’t keep her office staffed because she’s such a bitch. But that’s probably just because they’re letting her choose her own staff and so she chooses B!lack women who are just as bitchy and even more thin-skinned than herself. But if she’s President, then she has to accept the cabinet, and I’m sure those guys will have no problem telling her what to do. There’s still the problem of her low-IQ vapid speechifying, but after four years of excusing Cadaver Joe’s necrotic emissions, Kamala’s waftings would be a veritable breath of fresh air. Vacuity is good by comparison.

    It’s almost like they just don’t want to Celebrate Diversity.

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • LOL: BB753
    • Replies: @Corn
    @Almost Missouri


    I don’t quite understand the DNC’s aversion to running with Kamala. Yeah okay, she’s supposedly a crappy person. As if Backfire Joe wasn’t a crappy a person?
     
    I agree.
    I’m not a Democrat, so no one in the Democratic Party cares what I think, but if the top dogs/insiders want to replace Biden and can find a way to crowbar him out, why not?

    I don’t think they have anything to lose in our polarized climate. You have people on Twitter posting #StillRidinWithBiden etc but many of these same people, you check their Twitter profile and what do you see?

    #Resist and #VoteBlueNoMatterWho

    If the Dems pushed Biden out alot of Dems would cry and bitch for a few days, but come November they’d fill their mail in ballots out like good little zombies to “resist fascism”.

    Idk if dumping Biden would gain the Dem presidential ticket any votes, but I doubt it would cost them any.
    , @Colin Wright
    @Almost Missouri


    'I don’t quite understand the DNC’s aversion to running with Kamala...'
     
    The problem is that nobody likes her. In those primaries she entered in 2020, her vote tallies were literally in the hundreds. Just last week in a poll in Georgia -- a very black state -- Biden did four percent better against Trump than she did. They both lost, but Harris lost worse. Blacks don't like her -- not that she's black.

    Some people shouldn't run for office. It doesn't even have much to do with personal qualities. It's just a matter of who people will like. People liked Reagan. They wouldn't like me. They don't like Kamala Harris.

    They never will. She shouldn't seek public office.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    , @AnotherDad
    @Almost Missouri


    I don’t quite understand the DNC’s aversion to running with Kamala. Yeah okay, she’s supposedly a crappy person. As if Backfire Joe wasn’t a crappy a person?
     
    I expect that most of the Democrats pushing Joe to retire, realize they'll be stuck with Kamala.

    It’s almost like they just don’t want to Celebrate Diversity.
     
    That's cause diversity--Diversity!--sucks. The Democrats are running up against their "coalition of the fringes" "circular firing squad" problem.

    -- Jews. The Jewish money guys call the shots and can setup a candidate like Biden. But it would be just too "on the nose" to have a Jewish guy explicitly running an anti-white a shit show of destruction. Imagine a President Mayorkas? President Garland? The Biden Administration is the most demographically skewed--relative to US population--administration in US history. And it is utterly unmentioned in the press. (Seriously, I think a President Schumer would have been less destructive, because he would not want to make the connection so obvious, and he would have cared more about his own re-election.) Having a shabbos like Biden works better.

    -- Blacks. People can vote for a black who seems reasonable, checks the boxes. Obama was a big stroke for "good whites". But that's done and no other group actually thinks "black wonderful" or "black competent" or that the presidential ticket must be black all the time. However, blacks have been endlessly coddled by minoritarianism and since Saint George's OD, the "must have black thing" has been over the top pushing black ego/entitlement up through the roof.

    Black women are running around thinking they are "wise" or possess "black girl magic". But everyone else thinks more along the lines of DMV lady. Black men really don't want a black woman bossing them. Mexicans have no use for blacks at all. Asians have generally negative opinions. And it's mutual, blacks are used to having to vote for whitey outside of explicitly black districts. But they have negative attitudes toward voting for Mexicans or Asians--that's "cut in line" and "took our spot" territory. The Democrats have a line to tread pandering to their vote bank but can not afford to fall into Steve's "the black party" trap.

    -- Mexicans/Latinos. They are mostly pretty politically quiescent here. And due to the concentration of their numbers in blue states or red states (Texas) they aren't immediately in the frame. Mexicans matter in Arizona and Nevada, but again are unloved by blacks who matter in almost every other swing state.

    -- Asians. The Chinese are boring. The Indians keep popping up everywhere but are unloved. Both seem kind of "foreign".

    -- Muslims. 'nuf said. Well ok, the obvious: the "immigration forever!" the Jews pushed inevitably means they'll be more Muslims than Jews in the US eventually. (Kaganovitch's heroic efforts notwithstanding.) At some point the Parasites might not even be a Jewish party. In the interim they have to do "stay apart!"

    -- White women. LOL. They are the Parasite Party's biggest vote bank and they are everywhere trying to run everything, full of very definite opinions--which are exactly in line with whatever they heard on the View or the morning shows. Since Jewish second wave feminism taught them that they are oppressed, they've A) have a chip on their shoulder about being heard and B) know--you go girl--that they should be running things and everything would be better if they did. It's a very, very feminized party and they provide the critical votes, so they're sort of right.

    There's only one problem. No one likes white women. Specifically these political you-go-girl church ladies. Very specifically no one is enamored by the thought of being led by a white woman President and being finger wagged and dictated to by her. The soy boys will dutifully vote for them. Most white men--even "progressives" would rather not--would rather have a guy. Black men definitely would not. And even black women have no use for them.

    But white women think they should be running the show. At least half the time. That a woman should always be on the ticket. And just on the bottom, but woman on top.

    ~~

    Sort through it all and again and again you come back to the same thing ... the best presidential candidate for the anti-white, anti-male "diversity!" party is a straight white gentile male! They seem ho-hum, they don't scare the (white) horses and do not stoke the intra-coalition-of-the-fringes ethnic conflicts.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Frau Katze, @Gandydancer

  45. WHAT YA GONNA DO, BROTHER?!

  46. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    Hulk Hogan, Kid Rock, USA! USA! USA!

    This is the most ‘MURICA thing I’ve ever seen.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Prester John, @Anonymous, @SFG, @Linus, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Which is why it won’t play on the Upper West Side, Cambridge MA or Hollywood.

  47. @Stan Adams
    @AnotherDad


    so they could have an open cycle of candidates
     
    It’s almost as if the Democratic leaders didn’t want the voters to have a say in selecting the nominee.

    Bernie Sanders is still hugely popular among a certain segment of the Democratic base and, despite his advanced age, he’s still pretty sharp.

    The Democratic Iowa caucus debacle in 2020 is all but forgotten now, but at the time the Bernie Bros were screaming that the fix was in. Bernie won the popular vote but the counting dragged on for days and in the end Pete Bootyjudge (sp? I could never remember how to spell his name) was declared the official winner. Then Bernie won New Hampshire and Nevada.

    Biden won the next contest in South Carolina, but the polls indicated that Sanders was leading in most of the Super Tuesday primaries. But then several candidates suddenly dropped out and endorsed Biden. He ended up winning most if not all of the Super Tuesday states, and within a week or two his nomination was secured. (Super Tuesday was March 3. Ten days later - Friday the 13th - Trump declared a national emergency over COVID.)

    There was a lingering sense among many Democrats that Bernie had been robbed.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Alan Mercer, @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar

    Sanders was leading in most of the Super Tuesday primaries. But then several candidates suddenly dropped out and endorsed Biden.

    Thanks for bringing this up. I was amazed at the fact that those candidates who might have split the moderate vote with Biden – namely, Buttigieg and Klobuchar – elected to drop out just BEFORE Super Tueday, whereas Warren, who split the left vote with Sanders, dropped out just AFTER Super Tuesday. I couldn’t believe how little attention this curious coincidence got. I knew at that point Biden would be the nominee.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @Alan Mercer

    "...I couldn’t believe how little attention this curious coincidence got. .."

    I think it has a simple explanation. His colleagues don't like him much.

  48. @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality
    In general, the convention was a mix of goofball boomer cuckoldry combined with a glimmers of something better. I believe JD Vance said America wasn't an "idea", it's an actual people.

    Replies: @Prester John, @Mr. Anon

    Didn’t watch/hear Vance’s speech but if he said that, then he articulated the reason why this country is divided.

  49. @International Jew
    @anonymous

    Maybe they'll nominate an AI version of George Floyd. Why not? The standards of fakery they've established with Biden already take them halfway there.

    Replies: @deep anonymous

    Maxx Headroom for President.

    • Agree: bomag
  50. Anonymous[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gunnar von Cowtown
    Hulk Hogan, Kid Rock, USA! USA! USA!

    This is the most ‘MURICA thing I’ve ever seen.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Prester John, @Anonymous, @SFG, @Linus, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Idiocracy said this wouldn’t happen until the year 2505.

    • Thanks: Adam Smith
    • LOL: Matthew Kelly
    • Replies: @Matthew Kelly
    @Anonymous

    Prediction's easy in clownworld, so long as you're not a clown.

    But as Orwell, Judge, and others demonstrate, getting the timing correct is never easy...

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    Idiocracy said this wouldn’t happen until the year 2505.
     
    They were dyslectic. They meant 2025.

    Speaking of which, the Y2K bug has finally arrived, 24½ years late, via something called "CrowdStrike", based in Austin, Texas. (That other Spam is based in Austin, Minnesota.) Is this something we need to pay attention to? Other than a delayed package or flight? Okay, 911. (But we're a two-minute walk from the EMT station, so that's your problem.)

    If this CrowdStrike is so critical, how come we've never heard of it before? "You don't know what you've got till it's gone", as Joni sang.

    Also, the name is disturbing. Sounds like an Antifa clone.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

  51. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @QCIC

    I have my doubts about anything getting better under any administration in the current year. As other commenters have noted, until Israel-first ends, nothing really changes.

    But, RIGHT NOW, what’s the best alternative to Trump/Hogan? Four more years of Biden? Kamala? Some other unqualified DEI reject? Civil War Part 2 is sure taking its sweet time manifesting. Should we wait harder?

    Anyway, fixing the border / immigration issue is simply a matter of political will. No way in hell it’s happening under any democratic administration.

    Change my mind.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Prester John, @Almost Missouri, @Harry Baldwin

    “Anyway, fixing the border / immigration issue is simply a matter of political will. No way in hell it’s happening under any democratic administration.”

    My fear is that it won’t under a Republican administration either. I’m all in with Trump on this one but…I suspect that the fix was in long ago as agreed upon by both political parties.

  52. Most people want to vote for the peace and prosperity candidate. Indiana, where I live, is a heavily Republican state. The only time in the last ninety years they have not voted that way was when the Republicans nominated two bellicose and hawkish Arizona senators who looked like they might start a war to be their presidential candidate.
    The failure of Goldwater and McCain to win the national election led to the destructive LBJ and Obama.

    It will help the Republicans if they position themselves as the peace party rather than the war party but they have been sending mixed signals during their convention. Will they end the proxy war with Russia in the Ukraine with a negotiated settlement or by trying to engage in threats? Will their pro-Israel stance lead to a war with Iran? Will their hostility to China lead to a military conflict? It’s hard to tell.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Mark G.

    Very hard to imagine fighting Iran, Russia, and China at the same time. It's setting the military up for failure.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon, @Jonathan Mason

  53. @Almost Missouri
    @AnotherDad


    they have to either run Kamala or spurn her–a black!, a woman!, a black woman!!!
    ...
    get the Harris debacle over with
     
    I don't quite understand the DNC's aversion to running with Kamala. Yeah okay, she's supposedly a crappy person. As if Backfire Joe wasn't a crappy a person? Their media whores have already demonstrated there's no level of degradation to which they won't stoop to promote whatever narrative asked of them no matter how implausible. And Kamala doesn't come with the Lady Macbeth spouse, coke-addled felony-and-corruption-broadcasting son, and bizarre daughter-showering and child stranger-danger habits. Kamala's already married to her Jewish minder, so they don't have to appoint another embarrassingly kosher kabinet for her. Whatever piece of crap she is, it is less than the crap they've been making everyone else put up with the last four years. Yeah okay, she's a skank who BJed her way up the party ladder. So what? The Dems can look at their base and say, "Hey, we've all been there, right?" and they'll shrug it off, because they have. Kamala's far from perfect, but she looks like all upside compared to where they are now. Yet, there's some stubborn resistance to going with the "black" woman they all insisted was so great four years ago.

    The only way I can figure it is that they can't keep her office staffed because she's such a bitch. But that's probably just because they're letting her choose her own staff and so she chooses B!lack women who are just as bitchy and even more thin-skinned than herself. But if she's President, then she has to accept the cabinet, and I'm sure those guys will have no problem telling her what to do. There's still the problem of her low-IQ vapid speechifying, but after four years of excusing Cadaver Joe's necrotic emissions, Kamala's waftings would be a veritable breath of fresh air. Vacuity is good by comparison.

    It's almost like they just don't want to Celebrate Diversity.

    Replies: @Corn, @Colin Wright, @AnotherDad

    I don’t quite understand the DNC’s aversion to running with Kamala. Yeah okay, she’s supposedly a crappy person. As if Backfire Joe wasn’t a crappy a person?

    I agree.
    I’m not a Democrat, so no one in the Democratic Party cares what I think, but if the top dogs/insiders want to replace Biden and can find a way to crowbar him out, why not?

    I don’t think they have anything to lose in our polarized climate. You have people on Twitter posting #StillRidinWithBiden etc but many of these same people, you check their Twitter profile and what do you see?

    #Resist and #VoteBlueNoMatterWho

    If the Dems pushed Biden out alot of Dems would cry and bitch for a few days, but come November they’d fill their mail in ballots out like good little zombies to “resist fascism”.

    Idk if dumping Biden would gain the Dem presidential ticket any votes, but I doubt it would cost them any.

    • Agree: Gandydancer
  54. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @QCIC

    I have my doubts about anything getting better under any administration in the current year. As other commenters have noted, until Israel-first ends, nothing really changes.

    But, RIGHT NOW, what’s the best alternative to Trump/Hogan? Four more years of Biden? Kamala? Some other unqualified DEI reject? Civil War Part 2 is sure taking its sweet time manifesting. Should we wait harder?

    Anyway, fixing the border / immigration issue is simply a matter of political will. No way in hell it’s happening under any democratic administration.

    Change my mind.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Prester John, @Almost Missouri, @Harry Baldwin

    I mostly agree, but there may be a subtlety that outsiders miss, which is that the Jewish domination of the US Federal government has gotten so overwhelming that now the primary polarity is between the American Jews (dominant in DNC) and the Israeli Jews (dominant in GOP).

    In foreign policy, both agree that prosecuting Israeli interests should be the US priority, but the Israeli Jews are indifferent about the Ukraine, support of which drains resources Israel would rather use and which unnecessarily antagonizes Russia, whom Israelis would rather rather keep quiescent pending conflict with Iran, while the DNC Jews are keen to salvage and even enrich their oligarchy syndicates in the Ukraine no matter the cost in American treasure and Ukrainian blood.

    In domestic policy, American Jews can’t shake their habit of welcoming immivaders, while Israeli Jews see no point in poisoning the blood of their primary military-industrial sponsor.

    So yes, both sides suck for America and the world, but arguably the Israeli/GOP side sucks less.

    • Thanks: mc23
    • Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @Almost Missouri

    I believe I could drink bourbon with you, sir.

  55. Never watch these things, regardless of party or candidate: meaningless nonsense, boring.

    • Agree: Gandydancer
  56. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    Hulk Hogan, Kid Rock, USA! USA! USA!

    This is the most ‘MURICA thing I’ve ever seen.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Prester John, @Anonymous, @SFG, @Linus, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    For the national convention of the more conservative party, that seems appropriate.

  57. Trump apparently spoke for an hour and a half. What is he, Castro?

    I remember when Bill Clinton was labeled a mike-hog when his keynote speech at the 1988 convention went over an hour.

    I guess the Party faithful there in Milwaukee lapped it up.

    I didn’t see much of the convention. Tell me, were there any speakers who were not members of the Trump family? I guess there were a few: Kid Rock, Hulk Hogan. The total vulgarization of the GOP under Trump is well underway (as if it hadn’t been vulgar enough before).

    Oh, and Mike Pompeo spoke, just to reassure the big-money donors that the same people who were really in charge during Trump Administration 1.0 are still going to be in charge of version 2.0.

    The whole thing came across purely as a rally for the great leader – The Donald – rather than the convention of a party.

    These conventions have long since been pointless in any real administrative or substantive sense. Now they are just reality-show-lie pageants It’s all emotions and feelz. Even the meta-commentary by the FOX flunkies was all about the emotion of the event, and how people felt and how people would perceive those feelings.

    As Propaganda goes, it was all pretty transparent to anyone who has been around the Sun a few times.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Mr. Anon


    Trump apparently spoke for an hour and a half. What is he, Castro?
     
    More to the point, what is he not, Biden?

    As 1.5 hr speeches go, he seemed to hold the audience pretty well but I think the length (and hour) was part of the point. Every knows that there's no way Old Joe could be on his feet and talking (not even reading from a teleprompter) for 1.5 hrs near midnight. Joe has been in bed for 4 hrs. at that point.

    Replies: @Tom F., @Reg Cæsar

  58. The Hulk might have consulted with his legal council, or maybe Peter Theil’s legal council, before appearing at RNC, I believe Terry Gene Bollea claimed that since he no longer was performing the Hulk Hogan character he was no longer a ‘public figure’ so Gawker media’s coverage of his sex life was, I guess, harassment, So I believe headlining the RNC as Hulk Hogan is inconsistent with being a non Hulk Hogan private citizen, aka Terry Gene “not Hulk Hogan” Bollea. Mr Bollea could regret his return to the character, I believe, he claimed was defunct,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollea_v._Gawker

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @George

    "... Mr Bollea could regret his return to the character .."

    Seems very unlikely. The case is long over. According to your own link

    "On November 2, 2016, Gawker Media and Bollea reached a $31 million settlement. As a result of the settlement, Gawker forwent its appeal .."

  59. @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality
    In general, the convention was a mix of goofball boomer cuckoldry combined with a glimmers of something better. I believe JD Vance said America wasn't an "idea", it's an actual people.

    Replies: @Prester John, @Mr. Anon

    In general, the convention was a mix of goofball boomer cuckoldry combined with a glimmers of something better.

    They even managed to bring out one of the last living WWII vets in a final act of Greatest Generation worship/envy and paraded him on the speaking platform as if he were a museum piece. Nazi, Nazi, Nazi (nobody ever calls them “Germans” anymore, as the actual generation that fought that war did most of the time). Did we mention we beat the Nazis! (Don’t mention the Red Army). USA! USA! USA!

    I believe JD Vance said America wasn’t an “idea”, it’s an actual people.

    He said it was more than “just an idea”. But still, that’s better than I’ve heard from any other American politician. It was novel that he actually stated what is obviously true that America is a people and a nation. Well, it was once, anyway. Maybe not anymore. I would like to see that whole “America is an idea”, “America is an experiment”, and the rest, buried in an unmarked grave.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Mr. Anon

    "He [Vance] said it was more than “just an idea”. But still, that’s better than I’ve heard from any other American politician. It was novel that he actually stated what is obviously true that America is a people and a nation."

    Actually at this point, for practical/satirical purposes, I'd prefer it if we really did advertise that America was "just an idea" and not a real place that you could sneak into and loot.

    We could say to immigrants, "America is really just an idea; so, we are going to print out the idea, and fax or mail it to you, and then you can stay at home and implement the idea, at home in the comfort of your native toilet bowl. No need to come here! Besides, there's no place to actually come to; we're *just* an idea!"

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @RadicalCenter

    , @Gandydancer
    @Mr. Anon


    Nazi, Nazi, Nazi (nobody ever calls them “Germans” anymore, as the actual generation that fought that war did most of the time).
     
    Is this just your impression or do you have data on this? My impression is different. It certainly seems to me that the swastika was more prominent in anti-German propaganda images than your claim would suggest.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  60. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    Hulk Hogan, Kid Rock, USA! USA! USA!

    This is the most ‘MURICA thing I’ve ever seen.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Prester John, @Anonymous, @SFG, @Linus, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    That and the head tat whore made me wonder what exactly we are conserving.

    • LOL: John Johnson
    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Linus

    The head tat whore, Amber Rose, a former stripper/hooker whose main claim to fame was being Kanye's booty call, was given a platform during prime time, over other conservatives of color such as Candace Owens. No matter what you may think of Candace Owens, she actually has worked within conservative movement for half a decade.

    Per the work of conservative columnist Pedro Gonzalez, Amber Rose up until this spring was praising Satanism, is very pro-LGBT and abortion, hawks cryptocurrency, and has an OnlyFans account.

    Also, her most recent baby daddy dumped her for...CHER. Yes, THAT Cher--who's now 78 yrs old.

    It simply doesn't make any sense why she was invited to speak on the stage, unless of course we apply Occam's Razor--it's Trump's show, and he wanted her to speak. After all, let's not forget the reason for the federal lawsuit in NY--over a pornstar. The closeups of him listening to her speaking while on the stage show that he was more than interested in what she had to say.

    Noticing the historical trend. The likes of Amber Rose would apparently very much be Trump's type of woman, both publicly and privately. There's a clear pattern that that's what he prefers. After all, former First Lady Melania was an underwear model for Victoria's Secret.

    She basically was there during prime time to verbal felatio him on the stage right in front of him, and this coming from a woman who used to make a living doing this sort of job off stage and in hotel rooms.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Yngvar
    @Linus


    That and the head tat whore made me wonder what exactly we are conserving.
     
    Maybe the freedom to live as one please and be left in peace?

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    , @Gandydancer
    @Linus


    That and the head tat whore made me wonder what exactly we are conserving.
     
    I had no idea who this person was and from your description assumed she had tats on her face or skull. But it seems she has them on her arms and shoulders and, when I duckduckgo'd the images of "amber rose at rnc" it appeared that she kept those covered and didn't serve as propaganda for doing it by anyone else. Which, being an old fart, I wouldn't care for.

    I didn't watch the RNC and don't much care for the WWE cartoon as a face of the GOP either, but there's no accounting tastes. I'll anyway vote for Trump to keep the (D)'s out, not to conserve anything, so "Are there votes in it?" is the only question.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  61. @R.G. Camara
    Hate to say a cliched phrase, but Trump's extra-long speech was actually 4-D chess.

    First, the non-4-D chess reasons:

    1. He'd been cooped up since Saturday without speaking publicly. For a guy with his ego (or any politician) it would be torture. So he had a lot to say.

    2. He was on a big stage primetime with the whole world watching and his enemy on the ropes. He thus wanted to pound it in as much as possible. I'm sure his ego would love if his speech was the last political thing America sees before Joe Biden resigns on Sunday, thus making it seem like his speech made Joe resign.

    3. The gunshot wound/assassination attempt granted him the "he was shot less than 5 days ago, he almost died, he can say whatever he wants for as long as he want tonight" card. The fact that he did not appear nervous or scared when speaking after so short a time also made it riveting, even though overlong and rambling in the 2nd half..

    4. This is how the man speaks publicly: goes off script, barely canned talking points, rambling, casual style, interactions with audience while talking, repeats himself, longer than necessary.

    5. The pathos of the ear and the dead fireman and the assassination needed to be milked, and it was. That added at least 20 min.

    Now, the 4-D chess reason:

    Trump, at age 78, and 5 days removed from being shot, spoke coherently and intelligently for 1.5 hours (93 minutes) from 10:30pm EST to 12am (9:30-11pm CST). Meanwhile, Joe Biden went to bed at 8pm, is down with COVID, missed the speech, and can't speak coherently for 15 minutes even when not sick.

    The contrast could not be clearer. Trump is doing what Brandon could not do anymore and likely could never do. This was Trump's "Theodore Roosevelt keeps giving a speech after being shot" time, while Brandon was asleep and didn't have the energy to even listen. That will stick in people's minds, if the Trump campaign play it right.

    Which one is presidential, and which one is a pretender?

    Also, the best speech I saw was, unironically, Hulk Hogan. 10 short minutes, hit all the highlights, engrossing, patriotic, energetic, funny, and nostalgic. He's an excellent hype man.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7Oy9qK-pk0

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Goddard, @jb

    Great comment. Trump came across as human, reflective, very appreciative to be alive. Before he talked about the shooting, he said something like, “I haven’t talked about it yet and I’m only going to talk about it once because it’s hard” — that really struck me. There are things in my own life I can’t talk about because I fall apart as soon as I begin. Trump talked matter of factly about one of those sorts of things, in full control of his emotions. He’s a strong man. So he rambled a bit–as you said, he earned it. This wasn’t the time for a typical political speech.

    As far as Biden having Covid, how do we know that’s even true? We are so barraged with lies we can take nothing as given. Claiming Covid is a perfect excuse to hunker down in Delaware while negotiating for the largest severance package he can extract.

    • Replies: @Corn
    @Harry Baldwin


    As far as Biden having Covid, how do we know that’s even true? We are so barraged with lies we can take nothing as given. Claiming Covid is a perfect excuse to hunker down in Delaware while negotiating for the largest severance package he can extract.
     
    Bingo. I don’t believe for a second Biden has covid. The family is just hiding him away from doorknockers seeking his replacement
    , @Prester John
    @Harry Baldwin

    "As far as Biden having Covid, how do we know that’s even true?"

    Good question...never thought of that. On the other hand, even if it's legit then that only makes it all the more necessary to show him the door.

    , @Old Prude
    @Harry Baldwin

    If the media says Biden has Covid, he doesn't. Lies. All Lies.

  62. @Stan Adams
    @AnotherDad


    so they could have an open cycle of candidates
     
    It’s almost as if the Democratic leaders didn’t want the voters to have a say in selecting the nominee.

    Bernie Sanders is still hugely popular among a certain segment of the Democratic base and, despite his advanced age, he’s still pretty sharp.

    The Democratic Iowa caucus debacle in 2020 is all but forgotten now, but at the time the Bernie Bros were screaming that the fix was in. Bernie won the popular vote but the counting dragged on for days and in the end Pete Bootyjudge (sp? I could never remember how to spell his name) was declared the official winner. Then Bernie won New Hampshire and Nevada.

    Biden won the next contest in South Carolina, but the polls indicated that Sanders was leading in most of the Super Tuesday primaries. But then several candidates suddenly dropped out and endorsed Biden. He ended up winning most if not all of the Super Tuesday states, and within a week or two his nomination was secured. (Super Tuesday was March 3. Ten days later - Friday the 13th - Trump declared a national emergency over COVID.)

    There was a lingering sense among many Democrats that Bernie had been robbed.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Alan Mercer, @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar

    There was a lingering sense among many Democrats that Bernie had been robbed.

    And yet they all dutifully got behind corrupt, senile, influence-peddlin’, plagiarizin’ Joe.

    • Agree: MGB
    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Mr. Anon

    Quite a few Bernie Bros stayed home in 2016 - they couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Hillary and they refused to believe that Trump could win.

    It would stand to reason that, in 2020, many Democrats who couldn’t stand Biden turned out anyway to vote against hombre naranja malo.

    (Nobody here believes in that cockamamie story about a stolen election, right? Not even the Unziest Man of Unz would dare to impugn the integrity of the nice Black ladies who counted the vote in Philadelphia.)

  63. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    RIP, Bob Newhart (the Willie Mays of comedy--an all time great)

    One of the observers (noticers) of standup.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcjz7VAljYs

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    I enjoyed Bob Newhart’s comedy but I can’t forget Don Rickles introducing him as “One of the great stammering idiots of our time.”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Harry Baldwin



    One of the observers (noticers) of standup.
     
    I enjoyed Bob Newhart’s comedy but I can’t forget Don Rickles introducing him as “One of the great stammering idiots of our time.”
     
    Look closely, and you'll notice that he was never funny himself, just everything around him was suddenly hilarious. He played straight man to a wacky world. Fellow Chicagolander Jack Benny was like that, too. Newhart took the same shtick and honed it to perfection.

    Steve, too.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    , @Rapparee
    @Harry Baldwin

    Don Rickles was perhaps Newhart’s best friend; their families used to vacation together. Their styles of comedy were so radically different that they never felt threatening to each other’s careers, perhaps. I’m glad I got to see Newhart live twice in his dotage.

    (Since this thread started more-or-less on the subject of Donald Trump, I’ll add that Trump’s crowd work at his rallies has always displayed echoes of Don Rickles’ act- he’s not an articulate orator or an inspiring speechmaker, but Trump is a first-rate spontaneous insult comic. His always keeping his rallies in stitches explains a lot about his improbable popularity).

  64. @epebble
    @Corn

    Ignoring any substance or policy in the speech, standing on two legs and speaking for nearly two hours without taking a sip of water definitely passes the fitness test against Biden.

    However, the game may be changing ...

    People Close to Biden Say He Appears to Accept He May Have to Leave the Race
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/18/us/politics/biden-election-drop-out.html

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @J.Ross

    They’ve been saying this for days, which confirms that they’re still stuck in their misreading of how meme magic works: Joe/Jill aren’t going anywhere and the handlers are trying to meme them out.

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    @J.Ross


    Joe/Jill aren’t going anywhere and the handlers are trying to meme them out.
     
    What does this even mean? "Meme" is a perfectly good word to refer to phenomena like "Where's the beef!?" I despise seeing it destroyed by misuse.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  65. @YetAnotherAnon
    I see everything Microsoft is poorly today, bar my ancient Windows 7 box.

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/jul/19/windows-global-it-outage-what-we-know-so-far

    https://twitter.com/the__DAW/status/1814206133277528285

    Be interesting to see what happens here at opening time, if indeed there is one:

    https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/crwd

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Was it truly around the world, or just among the Atlanticist war addicts who think that they are the world?

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @J.Ross

    Pretty much everywhere Microsoft runs - certainly the whole Anglosphere. EU, Israel, Aus/NZ, India, Mexico, Malaysia.

    Not China or Russia.

  66. @Stan Adams
    @Corn

    That was my conclusion, as well. He wanted to show his stamina. Sleepy Joe has to go to bed at eight o'clock but The Donald can keep rambling into the wee hours of the morning.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    It might have been over long to imply he’s not afraid of another assassination attempt out in the open.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Mike Tre

    That’s certainly possible.

  67. @AnotherDad

    Why is Trump still talking at approaching midnight on the East Coast?
     
    Don't understand why organizers can keep things on schedule.

    And if Trump is droning on and on then that is idiocy. Because of the shooting Trump probably has more of not-already-made-up-their-mind audience than otherwise. Ergo this was Trump's opportunity to really make the case for himself. A time for discipline, clarity and real excellence.

    I hope he had solid focus that the "Biden Administration"'s open border is a war upon Americans. And tied it explicitly to issues Steve helpfully wrapped up as "Affordable Family Formation" and explicitly to screwing young Americans out of opportunities for marriage/home/family--"The American Dream". "War on Young Americans" has a nice ring to it. So does "War on the American Dream".

    Also hope he gave a shout out to the hero dad murdered in PA. And tied that again to our "elites" war upon Americans, attacking and demonizing every American who simply wishes to keep their nation and live their life.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Harry Baldwin

    Why not actually watch the speech before commenting on it?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Harry Baldwin


    Why not actually watch the speech before commenting on it?
     
    Funny, the only speech we watched was Hulk Hogan's. For some odd reason, it was featured on the Wall Street Journal's video channel, on which I check the "Hits and Misses" every week. The missus overheard his voice, and it was '90s nostalgia for her.

    (I missed his entire career, sometimes confusing him with Paul. How's that for being checked out of pop culture?)

    The Democrats aren't the only party which competes with the couch. Hulk may serve as a cattle prod of sorts.

    Replies: @Old Prude

    , @Tom F.
    @Harry Baldwin

    You must be new here!:-)

    , @Gandydancer
    @Harry Baldwin


    Why not actually watch the speech before commenting on it?
     
    Because it's a waste of attention, time, and brain cells. What's said only matters to the extent that it is repeated ad nauseam in other channels.
  68. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    No one is naming the Jew, therefore nothing serious or substantial will get done. As usual.

    Can't have a real country or a real politics, if you can't or won't identify its real mortal enemies.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @MGB, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @AnotherDad

    Trump got plenty done last time, and has a proper animus toward and awareness of the saboteurs who stopped him from doing more; furthermore their ultimate weapons — the lockdown and election theft — are no longer credible. There will be economic collapse and continued subservience toward Israel but there is every reason to expect tremendous reforms.

  69. @Stan Adams
    @AnotherDad


    so they could have an open cycle of candidates
     
    It’s almost as if the Democratic leaders didn’t want the voters to have a say in selecting the nominee.

    Bernie Sanders is still hugely popular among a certain segment of the Democratic base and, despite his advanced age, he’s still pretty sharp.

    The Democratic Iowa caucus debacle in 2020 is all but forgotten now, but at the time the Bernie Bros were screaming that the fix was in. Bernie won the popular vote but the counting dragged on for days and in the end Pete Bootyjudge (sp? I could never remember how to spell his name) was declared the official winner. Then Bernie won New Hampshire and Nevada.

    Biden won the next contest in South Carolina, but the polls indicated that Sanders was leading in most of the Super Tuesday primaries. But then several candidates suddenly dropped out and endorsed Biden. He ended up winning most if not all of the Super Tuesday states, and within a week or two his nomination was secured. (Super Tuesday was March 3. Ten days later - Friday the 13th - Trump declared a national emergency over COVID.)

    There was a lingering sense among many Democrats that Bernie had been robbed.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Alan Mercer, @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar

    I’m married to a hardcore centrist, and find it fascinating that the only candidates that ever got her excited in our almost two decades together were Sanders and J.D. Vance. She’d read Vance’s book when it came out. It disgusted me that she took the kids with her to vote for Sanders in the primary eight years ago, but that was partly my fault for insisting on attending the other party’s caucus.

    Both Sanders and Vance know which buttons to push that reverberate outside their bases. There is a thread common to their distant positions. You can’t vote for Vance without voting for Trump– well, maybe there is a state or two where you can, but not ours– so expect to see some conflicted people out there.

  70. @SafeNow
    I liked the Trump intro given by Dana White, the extreme-fighting president, who said that he’s met a lot of tough guys - - that’s my business - - but longtime-friend Trump is the toughest guy he’s ever known. And, he continued, at the same time as the toughness, Trump possesses a genuine empathy for people and their families.

    Watching the goings-on I was reminded of e.e. cummings’ “The Enormous Room” in which cummings, contained and entrapped, describes a variety of dubious characters trapped with him. cummings highlighted the fact that amusement was crucial to the denizens, because amusement took their minds off their suffering. And, the occupants, although united, were restricted. But probably I should have saved this as a comment following the Dem convention.

    Replies: @Erik L

    Normally I’d take that Dana White statement as hyperbole but it might be true. I imagine myself being subject the the lawfare and other dirty tricks that Trump has endured. I’m certainly not the standard of toughness, but I know I would said “fuck this” and quit long ago

  71. @Harry Baldwin
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    I enjoyed Bob Newhart's comedy but I can't forget Don Rickles introducing him as "One of the great stammering idiots of our time."

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Rapparee

    One of the observers (noticers) of standup.

    I enjoyed Bob Newhart’s comedy but I can’t forget Don Rickles introducing him as “One of the great stammering idiots of our time.”

    Look closely, and you’ll notice that he was never funny himself, just everything around him was suddenly hilarious. He played straight man to a wacky world. Fellow Chicagolander Jack Benny was like that, too. Newhart took the same shtick and honed it to perfection.

    Steve, too.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Reg Cæsar

    Also, Benny's schtick was made for radio, but it wasn't as effective on television. For some reason, by the time of the '70's, Newhart's work was considered fresh, new, up to date, and interesting. Clearly also a major influence on the'90's show Seinfeld. Seinfeld is simply another comic in this vein, except as he's from NY, he boisterously exclaims (and as loudly as he possibly can) 'DID YA EVER NOTICE--"

    Uh, no, Jerry, we never actually did notice, even though Newhart and Benny both did this type of thing multiple decades ago before your first birthday.

    Zowie.

    Steve is in a completely different ballpark (Wrigley, since Comiskey is no longer around).

    There's a third Chicago connection. Steve himself lived in CHI town for several years.

  72. @R.G. Camara
    Hate to say a cliched phrase, but Trump's extra-long speech was actually 4-D chess.

    First, the non-4-D chess reasons:

    1. He'd been cooped up since Saturday without speaking publicly. For a guy with his ego (or any politician) it would be torture. So he had a lot to say.

    2. He was on a big stage primetime with the whole world watching and his enemy on the ropes. He thus wanted to pound it in as much as possible. I'm sure his ego would love if his speech was the last political thing America sees before Joe Biden resigns on Sunday, thus making it seem like his speech made Joe resign.

    3. The gunshot wound/assassination attempt granted him the "he was shot less than 5 days ago, he almost died, he can say whatever he wants for as long as he want tonight" card. The fact that he did not appear nervous or scared when speaking after so short a time also made it riveting, even though overlong and rambling in the 2nd half..

    4. This is how the man speaks publicly: goes off script, barely canned talking points, rambling, casual style, interactions with audience while talking, repeats himself, longer than necessary.

    5. The pathos of the ear and the dead fireman and the assassination needed to be milked, and it was. That added at least 20 min.

    Now, the 4-D chess reason:

    Trump, at age 78, and 5 days removed from being shot, spoke coherently and intelligently for 1.5 hours (93 minutes) from 10:30pm EST to 12am (9:30-11pm CST). Meanwhile, Joe Biden went to bed at 8pm, is down with COVID, missed the speech, and can't speak coherently for 15 minutes even when not sick.

    The contrast could not be clearer. Trump is doing what Brandon could not do anymore and likely could never do. This was Trump's "Theodore Roosevelt keeps giving a speech after being shot" time, while Brandon was asleep and didn't have the energy to even listen. That will stick in people's minds, if the Trump campaign play it right.

    Which one is presidential, and which one is a pretender?

    Also, the best speech I saw was, unironically, Hulk Hogan. 10 short minutes, hit all the highlights, engrossing, patriotic, energetic, funny, and nostalgic. He's an excellent hype man.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7Oy9qK-pk0

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Goddard, @jb

    Also, the best speech I saw was, unironically, Hulk Hogan.

    Hulk was good, but Dana White was even better.

  73. Anonymous[258] • Disclaimer says:

    I looked at the headline and understood that you were being cute, referring to bombastic Trump as Hulk Hogan. Then a little “Babylon Bee beaten by reality” doubt came into my mind and I wondered if these TV-oriented Fox News hoi polloi actually had gotten a WWE speech. (Note that WWE is fake and steroid-suffused and watched by people that don’t work out themselves.) So…I Googled. And yes, there was a HH speech. Not even going to look at it. Arrgh.

    Oh…and I’m not some creative class, Harvard-McKinsey DC/NY faggot. Done my time in the service, worked in manufacturing, etc. But just…fark. Look at the down brain silliness.

    Oh well, even if Vance is a fake, at least he’s an intelligent fake.

    • Agree: Gandydancer
  74. @Harry Baldwin
    @AnotherDad

    Why not actually watch the speech before commenting on it?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Tom F., @Gandydancer

    Why not actually watch the speech before commenting on it?

    Funny, the only speech we watched was Hulk Hogan’s. For some odd reason, it was featured on the Wall Street Journal’s video channel, on which I check the “Hits and Misses” every week. The missus overheard his voice, and it was ’90s nostalgia for her.

    (I missed his entire career, sometimes confusing him with Paul. How’s that for being checked out of pop culture?)

    The Democrats aren’t the only party which competes with the couch. Hulk may serve as a cattle prod of sorts.

    • Replies: @Old Prude
    @Reg Cæsar

    I wonder how real Hulk's voice is. I once had Sargent Slaughter on my radio show, and when the mic was off, he talked like a normal person. When it was on, he sounded like Hulk Hogan.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

  75. Hulkster went back to the well once more, Mean Gene. Entertaining but age is creeping up on the big guy, his 24” pythons are sagging like Judge Jeanine’s pipe cleaners when she goes sleeveless on The Five. Someone talk to that woman, please.

    While the Hulkster “worked” the promo well, the cringey moments were aplenty last night. Skid Rock, shyster Dana White ( what’s up with the visibly shaking hands and paper, stage fright?) Most cringey goes to Eric Trump. Wonder if Eric wants to take back what he said about David Duke being shot when Trumpy Bear was running the first time.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Trinity

    Sorry, but the way you're describing the final night of the convention with the speakers it sounds as though it could've passed for a bad late night informercial from 1995.

    All we needed was the late great Don LaPrie to make an unexpected appearance on the show, and we'd have been transported back to the '90's couch, ca.1AM in the morning.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

  76. @Harry Baldwin
    @R.G. Camara

    Great comment. Trump came across as human, reflective, very appreciative to be alive. Before he talked about the shooting, he said something like, "I haven't talked about it yet and I'm only going to talk about it once because it's hard" -- that really struck me. There are things in my own life I can't talk about because I fall apart as soon as I begin. Trump talked matter of factly about one of those sorts of things, in full control of his emotions. He's a strong man. So he rambled a bit--as you said, he earned it. This wasn't the time for a typical political speech.

    As far as Biden having Covid, how do we know that's even true? We are so barraged with lies we can take nothing as given. Claiming Covid is a perfect excuse to hunker down in Delaware while negotiating for the largest severance package he can extract.

    Replies: @Corn, @Prester John, @Old Prude

    As far as Biden having Covid, how do we know that’s even true? We are so barraged with lies we can take nothing as given. Claiming Covid is a perfect excuse to hunker down in Delaware while negotiating for the largest severance package he can extract.

    Bingo. I don’t believe for a second Biden has covid. The family is just hiding him away from doorknockers seeking his replacement

    • Agree: Old Prude
  77. I didn’t know “Kid Rock” was a rapper. That shit sucked.

    • Agree: Trinity
    • Replies: @Trinity
    @Macumazahn

    Kid Rock is no longer a kid but he acts like one. Rock was a wigger long before he adopted the redneck bit. Rock mentions everyone in his screeches from Johnny Cash to ZZ Top to some Black (c)rapper. Wouldn’t be surprised if this clown wasn’t P diddled to make it big. No talent whatsoever. An opportunist just like JD Bowman Vance.

    Admittedly I did like Cowboy by Skid Rock, that’s it.

  78. @Almost Missouri
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    I mostly agree, but there may be a subtlety that outsiders miss, which is that the Jewish domination of the US Federal government has gotten so overwhelming that now the primary polarity is between the American Jews (dominant in DNC) and the Israeli Jews (dominant in GOP).

    In foreign policy, both agree that prosecuting Israeli interests should be the US priority, but the Israeli Jews are indifferent about the Ukraine, support of which drains resources Israel would rather use and which unnecessarily antagonizes Russia, whom Israelis would rather rather keep quiescent pending conflict with Iran, while the DNC Jews are keen to salvage and even enrich their oligarchy syndicates in the Ukraine no matter the cost in American treasure and Ukrainian blood.

    In domestic policy, American Jews can't shake their habit of welcoming immivaders, while Israeli Jews see no point in poisoning the blood of their primary military-industrial sponsor.

    So yes, both sides suck for America and the world, but arguably the Israeli/GOP side sucks less.

    Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown

    I believe I could drink bourbon with you, sir.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
  79. Absolutely embarrassing for the country. The Republican party has turned into a clown show. Cruelty mixed with a circus. Nothing but lies. Full of selfish small people. There is a reason the whole world is laughing at us.

    The Democrats will win the next election in a landslide. It won’t even be close. Their policies are popular. You guys live in a bubble. You will shocked (again) this fall.

    Demographics are changing. whites will a minority everywhere. Men of Colour are impregnating (with consent) white girls. You cannot change that.

    Vance sold out his won family. He has no morals. His wife will divorce him.

    Trump is an evil traitorous convicted felon. He will be dead or in jail in a few month.

    We will defeat you guys just like we did in 1865, 1945, and 2024.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Tiny Duck


    We will defeat you guys just like we did in 1865
     
    Assassination?
    , @Ron Mexico
    @Tiny Duck

    Is Tiny Duck really Harry Sisson? Finkel and Einhorn, Einhorn and Finkel.

    , @Old Prude
    @Tiny Duck

    Look who's hear! Tiny Duck! You started off strong with the first paragraph Duck. Well done.

    , @Anonymous
    @Tiny Duck

    I love the switching in your comments between copy-and-pasting from more put-together liberals and adding your own mentally ill dingbattery. It's like you find something that sounds smart (to you), repost it here, and then think "How can I really drive my point home? I know, Men of Colour impregnating (with consent) white girls."

    , @Jack D
    @Tiny Duck


    We will defeat you guys just like we did in 1865, 1945, and 2024.
     
    We will defeat you in 2024 just like we did in 2024! Are you attempting a Biden imitation or something? Or is this an attempt at Kamala Harris word salad?

    BTW, did you know that Womens of Colour are being impregnated by white men too, that it's a two way street? Pure brown Brahmin women like Vance's wife are giving birth to half blood whites! Not that Kamala has any children but she sleeps with a white man also - if not impregnating they at least go through the motions, so to speak.
    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Tiny Duck

    TD:

    Glad you're back. We've missed your lampoons of prog think. This was pretty good. Not up to your old standard but pretty good nonetheless. You even seem to have convinced some readers that you're for real.

  80. Trump’s speech was way too long, self-indulgent, and boring. Definitely a fumble to the extent there are any persuadables watching who might have liked to have seen him show a bit more self-restraint. I am definitely not the target audience for The Hulk or Kid Rock but I can appreciate the intentional humor behind it, which obviously escapes nearly all of the lefties.

    That said, the Democrats are a total dumpster fire at the moment. No matter what they do about Biden there are going to be some real hard feelings within the party that will permeate the next 4 years. The convention still has the potential to be totally wild as well. As Steve has repeatedly pointed out, the Dem coalition is made up of factions that don’t really have any natural commonalities, and the tension between the elites who want to take Old Yeller’s candidacy behind the barn and the POCs who want to ride with him until the end so Kamala can inherit the presidency is entertaining.

    • Agree: Mark G.
  81. OT The rioting in Leeds was Roma gypsies backed up by (other) races from the Indian sub-continent.

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Gordo


    The rioting in Leeds was Roma gypsies backed up by (other) races from the Indian sub-continent.
     
    Spot on! The current theory of Gypsy origins is that they are descended from low caste northern Indians, perhaps, Dalits, who migrated northwestward into Europe. Their low caste origins, if correct, certainly help explain their low IQ, i.e. stupidity, uncleanliness, and propensity towards theft, grifting and other low level criminal behavior.
  82. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    No one is naming the Jew, therefore nothing serious or substantial will get done. As usual.

    Can't have a real country or a real politics, if you can't or won't identify its real mortal enemies.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @MGB, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @AnotherDad

    Netanyahu will be speaking before Congress next week, so give a listen.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @MGB


    Netanyahu will be speaking before Congress next week, so give a listen.
     
    Will their equivalent of the Secret Service be there to protect him? Are there any Arabs on Capitol security duty who might apply for the 72 virgins provision?
  83. jb says:
    @R.G. Camara
    Hate to say a cliched phrase, but Trump's extra-long speech was actually 4-D chess.

    First, the non-4-D chess reasons:

    1. He'd been cooped up since Saturday without speaking publicly. For a guy with his ego (or any politician) it would be torture. So he had a lot to say.

    2. He was on a big stage primetime with the whole world watching and his enemy on the ropes. He thus wanted to pound it in as much as possible. I'm sure his ego would love if his speech was the last political thing America sees before Joe Biden resigns on Sunday, thus making it seem like his speech made Joe resign.

    3. The gunshot wound/assassination attempt granted him the "he was shot less than 5 days ago, he almost died, he can say whatever he wants for as long as he want tonight" card. The fact that he did not appear nervous or scared when speaking after so short a time also made it riveting, even though overlong and rambling in the 2nd half..

    4. This is how the man speaks publicly: goes off script, barely canned talking points, rambling, casual style, interactions with audience while talking, repeats himself, longer than necessary.

    5. The pathos of the ear and the dead fireman and the assassination needed to be milked, and it was. That added at least 20 min.

    Now, the 4-D chess reason:

    Trump, at age 78, and 5 days removed from being shot, spoke coherently and intelligently for 1.5 hours (93 minutes) from 10:30pm EST to 12am (9:30-11pm CST). Meanwhile, Joe Biden went to bed at 8pm, is down with COVID, missed the speech, and can't speak coherently for 15 minutes even when not sick.

    The contrast could not be clearer. Trump is doing what Brandon could not do anymore and likely could never do. This was Trump's "Theodore Roosevelt keeps giving a speech after being shot" time, while Brandon was asleep and didn't have the energy to even listen. That will stick in people's minds, if the Trump campaign play it right.

    Which one is presidential, and which one is a pretender?

    Also, the best speech I saw was, unironically, Hulk Hogan. 10 short minutes, hit all the highlights, engrossing, patriotic, energetic, funny, and nostalgic. He's an excellent hype man.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7Oy9qK-pk0

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Goddard, @jb

    Now, the 4-D chess reason:

    Trump, at age 78, and 5 days removed from being shot, spoke coherently and intelligently for 1.5 hours (93 minutes) from 10:30pm EST to 12am (9:30-11pm CST). Meanwhile, Joe Biden went to bed at 8pm, is down with COVID, missed the speech, and can’t speak coherently for 15 minutes even when not sick.

    The problem is that there is a very good chance he will not be facing Biden in November, in which case this reasoning goes out the window.

    Personally I think the man just genuinely has no discipline. I thought the beginning of the speech went well, I gritted my teeth and stuck with it after he went off script and started with the usual rambling bullshit, and finally bailed when he got to the Late Great Hannibal Lecter. WTF? The whole point of the acceptance speech was to win over the sort of people who don’t go to his rallies and don’t appreciate this sort of thing. I’m sure his handlers understood that perfectly well, and must have been dying inside.

    Probably Vance too. I like Vance, and I think has good intentions, but he’s sold his soul for a chance to do some good over the next four years and maybe have a shot at the presidency in 2028. Unlike Trump, he’s a grownup, and I assume he knows what he’s in for if he wins, but wow! The NYT had a running commentary on Trump’s speech, and at one point someone got a text from a Democratic official saying “this is the Trump we were expecting and hoping for!”. In fact there were concerns that Trump’s speech was so bad that it would dissuade Biden from dropping out! All in all, very disappointing. (Also: Hulk Hogan? Chris Rock? Really???)

    • Replies: @jb
    @jb

    (Oops. Kid Rock, not Chris. Gonna slap myself for that! :-) )

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    , @R.G. Camara
    @jb


    The problem is that there is a very good chance he will not be facing Biden in November, in which case this reasoning goes out the window.
     
    Disagree. First, if it helps to knock Biden out, it gives Trump the aura of winning (same as he got in the primaries in 2016 by taking out the big dog, Jeb Bush, first, and then mopping up the littler fish one by one). That means something---momentum turns into inevitability. And if Biden doesn't leave, it does everything I said: makes Trump look presidential and forceful, and shows Biden to be weak.

    Second, it heads off at the pass any attacks the D's will try on Trump for being "old". "Hey our guy was about your age and he was too old to govern, here's our younger person, you should step out like Biden did old man." Trump proved he could go 90 minutes just days after being shot, that logic's not going to dissuade his voters.


    Also: Hulk Hogan?
     
    Hogan's speech was excellent, short, motivating, intelligent, and nostalgic. Every guy over 35 was transported back to his childhood and felt like we were beating the bad guys again. 9/10.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Art Deco

    , @Gandydancer
    @jb


    In fact there were concerns that Trump’s speech was so bad that it would dissuade Biden from dropping out!
     
    "Concerns" among who? Damn, I sure hope that the Dems persuade themselves that that is a good idea! Even Kamala gives them a better shot.

    Unfortunately I expect Kamala will be the incumbent long before November.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

  84. @Harry Baldwin
    @AnotherDad

    Why not actually watch the speech before commenting on it?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Tom F., @Gandydancer

    You must be new here!:-)

  85. anonymous[268] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mark G.
    Most people want to vote for the peace and prosperity candidate. Indiana, where I live, is a heavily Republican state. The only time in the last ninety years they have not voted that way was when the Republicans nominated two bellicose and hawkish Arizona senators who looked like they might start a war to be their presidential candidate.
    The failure of Goldwater and McCain to win the national election led to the destructive LBJ and Obama.

    It will help the Republicans if they position themselves as the peace party rather than the war party but they have been sending mixed signals during their convention. Will they end the proxy war with Russia in the Ukraine with a negotiated settlement or by trying to engage in threats? Will their pro-Israel stance lead to a war with Iran? Will their hostility to China lead to a military conflict? It's hard to tell.

    Replies: @anonymous

    Very hard to imagine fighting Iran, Russia, and China at the same time. It’s setting the military up for failure.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @anonymous


    Very hard to imagine fighting Iran, Russia, and China at the same time. It’s setting the military up for failure.
     
    It occurs to me that the gulf between the actual capabilities of our military and our expectations of it is becoming perilously wide. In other words, we're cruisin' for a bruisin.'

    ...and I doubt if we'll react constructively. Prussia after Jena and Auerstedt, that won't be us.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @anonymous


    Very hard to imagine fighting Iran, Russia, and China at the same time. It’s setting the military up for failure.
     
    Maybe that's the idea. What happens when the business goes under? You torch the place, collect the insurance, and move on to the next opportunity.

    Perhaps TPTB, The New World Order, whatever you might choose to call them, have decided to transfer the flag to China. For nearly a hundred years, the USA has been the global elite's muscle. They seem to have been grooming China to take over that task.
    , @Jonathan Mason
    @anonymous


    Very hard to imagine fighting Iran, Russia, and China at the same time. It’s setting the military up for failure.
     
    Especially as they can bring the whole USA to its knees with a Windows update. Or with Tiktok.
  86. @jb
    @R.G. Camara


    Now, the 4-D chess reason:

    Trump, at age 78, and 5 days removed from being shot, spoke coherently and intelligently for 1.5 hours (93 minutes) from 10:30pm EST to 12am (9:30-11pm CST). Meanwhile, Joe Biden went to bed at 8pm, is down with COVID, missed the speech, and can’t speak coherently for 15 minutes even when not sick.
     
    The problem is that there is a very good chance he will not be facing Biden in November, in which case this reasoning goes out the window.

    Personally I think the man just genuinely has no discipline. I thought the beginning of the speech went well, I gritted my teeth and stuck with it after he went off script and started with the usual rambling bullshit, and finally bailed when he got to the Late Great Hannibal Lecter. WTF? The whole point of the acceptance speech was to win over the sort of people who don't go to his rallies and don't appreciate this sort of thing. I'm sure his handlers understood that perfectly well, and must have been dying inside.

    Probably Vance too. I like Vance, and I think has good intentions, but he's sold his soul for a chance to do some good over the next four years and maybe have a shot at the presidency in 2028. Unlike Trump, he's a grownup, and I assume he knows what he's in for if he wins, but wow! The NYT had a running commentary on Trump's speech, and at one point someone got a text from a Democratic official saying "this is the Trump we were expecting and hoping for!". In fact there were concerns that Trump's speech was so bad that it would dissuade Biden from dropping out! All in all, very disappointing. (Also: Hulk Hogan? Chris Rock? Really???)

    Replies: @jb, @R.G. Camara, @Gandydancer

    (Oops. Kid Rock, not Chris. Gonna slap myself for that! 🙂 )

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @jb

    It's around 8PM, maybe you should be getting to bed.

  87. @QCIC
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Will this energy be channeled constructively to repair and heal the USA? How can such a thing be accomplished?

    A lot of the serious problems in our country took decades to create. Is the American attention span long enough to achieve a correction?

    The border control and illegal immigrant issue has been a commonly recognized problem since the 1960's when this round started. What will it take to stop and then reverse a 65 year trend? The process is probably catastrophic for the American civilization but simultaneously has tens of millions of beneficiaries in the short run.

    Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown, @Jonathan Mason, @lctimeconstant

    The border control and illegal immigrant issue has been a commonly recognized problem since the 1960’s when this round started.

    The real problem is that the asylum system is broken. Would-be immigrants can claim that they are facing persecution in their home country, and it becomes almost impossible to kick them out without a process that lasts for years.

    For example it is ridiculous that many Ecuadorians travel illegally to the US and claim to be facing persecution at home, while many retired US citizens move in the reverse directiona and live in Ecuador.

    And then Cubans are allowed into the US ad lib, supposedly because they are persecuted under communism, and Haitians and Venezuelans are allowed in because their home countries are just a shambles.

    So the system is broken, but what are the Republicans going to do to heal it. It is far from clear. If they start shooting unarmed people who approach the land border with Mexico, other routes will open up, for example getting into Puerto Rico by boat, or maybe Alaska or Hawaii.

    The new UK prime minister Keir Starmer says his government intends to deal with the criminal gangs who facilitate illegal immigration, and it seems to me that this would be a good approach for the US government.

    Illegal immigration is a multi-billion dollar industry and could only be eliminated by a coalition of governments within the Americas and the Caribbean.

    Also I noted in the coverage of speeches at the Republican convention that there was barely any discussion of health care, which is a huge issue for many people.

    And what is that square white bandage on Trump’s ear supposed to be doing? It doesn’t look like the right type of dressing for someone who had the top of their ear amputated by a bullet.

  88. President Donald J. Trump and James David Vance =

    Ammo rends ear, and DJT lines up VP candidate, JDV.

    • Thanks: Ministry Of Tongues
  89. @Macumazahn
    I didn't know "Kid Rock" was a rapper. That shit sucked.

    Replies: @Trinity

    Kid Rock is no longer a kid but he acts like one. Rock was a wigger long before he adopted the redneck bit. Rock mentions everyone in his screeches from Johnny Cash to ZZ Top to some Black (c)rapper. Wouldn’t be surprised if this clown wasn’t P diddled to make it big. No talent whatsoever. An opportunist just like JD Bowman Vance.

    Admittedly I did like Cowboy by Skid Rock, that’s it.

  90. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @QCIC

    I have my doubts about anything getting better under any administration in the current year. As other commenters have noted, until Israel-first ends, nothing really changes.

    But, RIGHT NOW, what’s the best alternative to Trump/Hogan? Four more years of Biden? Kamala? Some other unqualified DEI reject? Civil War Part 2 is sure taking its sweet time manifesting. Should we wait harder?

    Anyway, fixing the border / immigration issue is simply a matter of political will. No way in hell it’s happening under any democratic administration.

    Change my mind.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Prester John, @Almost Missouri, @Harry Baldwin

    Joe Biden had nearly four years to screw up things so badly that Trump will be lucky to get things halfway back to the way they were when he left. Can he really deport all the illegals Biden let in? Can he really get inflation down to where it was when he left office? Can he really clean up the corrupt FBI/CIA?

    I will vote for Trump knowing he can’t undo all the damage Biden has done. I only expect him not to intentionally make things worse and to achieve some progress on a few fronts.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
  91. @John Gruskos
    The Republican platform has two planks:
    1. Fight a war against Iran for the benefit of Israel.
    2. Eliminate the first amendment on campus for the benefit of Israel.

    Bill Ackman's Israel-First agenda can't generate any genuine enthusiasm.

    The revolutionary American nationalist energy of 2016 was completely and utterly absent.

    Replies: @Sgt Sternhammer, @Jack D, @Bragadocious, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Bill Jones

    If the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a Jew.

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @MGB
    @Jack D

    so nice of you to conflate the state of "israel" with "the jews", the word "jew/s" never once appearing in his comment. you and your brethren have no one but yourselves to blame if others don't make the effort to distinguish between the two, but that's the goal isn't it?

  92. @AnotherDad
    @epebble


    However, the game may be changing …

    People Close to Biden Say He Appears to Accept He May Have to Leave the Race
     
    I really don't see how it helps.

    The Democrats needed to get old Joe to formally bow out at least a year ago, so they could have an open cycle of candidates. Really, it should never have even gotten that far. That should have been baked in in 2020. Joe saying he was a one term "Return to Normalcy" candidate should have been a condition of supporting his run, with everyone saying that it is unacceptable to run an 80+ candidate.

    Now if Joe drops out they have to either run Kamala or spurn her--a black!, a woman!, a black woman!!! In the old 20th century Democratic party you could have personal considerations--competency, character, demeanor, electability--bump someone aside. But you're going to give a "black woman" the bum's rush?

    The only upside I see for them is that they'd probably get the Harris debacle over with. She'd lose, leaving 2028 wide open. But they can get that with Biden with less damage. And if somehow or another she actually won ... she would not only take up 2028, but stink up the Democrat's brand for a decade or more.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @anonymous, @Almost Missouri, @Jack D, @Colin Wright, @Anonymous

    I really don’t see how it helps.

    Yeah, everyone agrees that Old Joe has to be put out to pasture but what next?

    They are pretty much stuck with Kamala. Anything else will be seen as a betrayal by the black base.

    Kamala is even worse than Joe. Her Presidential campaign fell completely flat. Joe Biden had some appeal as Mr. Blue Collar union guy in the swing states, esp. PA and Michigan. What sort of appeal does Kamala have to this sort of swing voter? She might as well be from Mars to them.

    She is an unlikable person in general. Not even Democrats like her. Not even blacks who on some level must understand that she is a big phony and not “one of them”. Obama was a phony too but he at least walked the walk, living in Chicago and marrying a black woman and having black children and going to a black church, etc. Does Harris even have a religion? Is she a Hindu or what? She is the quintessential 21st century mystery meat elite.

  93. Haaretz seems to be pretty enthusiastic about Tucker Carlson:

    ‘Tucker Carlson, Isolationist, Israel-skeptic and Antisemitic Conspiracy Theorist, Is Winning the Battle Inside the GOP’

    Okay, they’re being a tad optimistic, but…

  94. @Tiny Duck
    Absolutely embarrassing for the country. The Republican party has turned into a clown show. Cruelty mixed with a circus. Nothing but lies. Full of selfish small people. There is a reason the whole world is laughing at us.

    The Democrats will win the next election in a landslide. It won't even be close. Their policies are popular. You guys live in a bubble. You will shocked (again) this fall.

    Demographics are changing. whites will a minority everywhere. Men of Colour are impregnating (with consent) white girls. You cannot change that.

    Vance sold out his won family. He has no morals. His wife will divorce him.

    Trump is an evil traitorous convicted felon. He will be dead or in jail in a few month.

    We will defeat you guys just like we did in 1865, 1945, and 2024.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Ron Mexico, @Old Prude, @Anonymous, @Jack D, @Jus' Sayin'...

    We will defeat you guys just like we did in 1865

    Assassination?

  95. @Mr. Anon
    Trump apparently spoke for an hour and a half. What is he, Castro?

    I remember when Bill Clinton was labeled a mike-hog when his keynote speech at the 1988 convention went over an hour.

    I guess the Party faithful there in Milwaukee lapped it up.

    I didn't see much of the convention. Tell me, were there any speakers who were not members of the Trump family? I guess there were a few: Kid Rock, Hulk Hogan. The total vulgarization of the GOP under Trump is well underway (as if it hadn't been vulgar enough before).

    Oh, and Mike Pompeo spoke, just to reassure the big-money donors that the same people who were really in charge during Trump Administration 1.0 are still going to be in charge of version 2.0.

    The whole thing came across purely as a rally for the great leader - The Donald - rather than the convention of a party.

    These conventions have long since been pointless in any real administrative or substantive sense. Now they are just reality-show-lie pageants It's all emotions and feelz. Even the meta-commentary by the FOX flunkies was all about the emotion of the event, and how people felt and how people would perceive those feelings.

    As Propaganda goes, it was all pretty transparent to anyone who has been around the Sun a few times.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Trump apparently spoke for an hour and a half. What is he, Castro?

    More to the point, what is he not, Biden?

    As 1.5 hr speeches go, he seemed to hold the audience pretty well but I think the length (and hour) was part of the point. Every knows that there’s no way Old Joe could be on his feet and talking (not even reading from a teleprompter) for 1.5 hrs near midnight. Joe has been in bed for 4 hrs. at that point.

    • Agree: mc23, Jus' Sayin'...
    • Replies: @Tom F.
    @Jack D

    Fully agree. These nomination acceptance speeches, like SOU speeches, are mostly for posterity. There won't be any new converts to Trump, and the party itself without Trump is irrelevant. But biographers and newsmen use those speeches to see what Trump will have accomplished, after identifying problems and suggesting solutions.

    But your point is the best! Building that muscle, to speak for 90 minutes, is an incredible thing!

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    Every knows that there’s no way Old Joe could be on his feet and talking (not even reading from a teleprompter) for 1.5 hrs near midnight.
     
    If Donald is the new Grover Cleveland, Joe is both the new Benjamin and William Henry Harrison!




    https://d1y822qhq55g6.cloudfront.net/default/1111111.jpg


    https://d1y822qhq55g6.cloudfront.net/default/presidential-funerals-william-henry-harrison.jpg
  96. @AnotherDad
    @epebble


    However, the game may be changing …

    People Close to Biden Say He Appears to Accept He May Have to Leave the Race
     
    I really don't see how it helps.

    The Democrats needed to get old Joe to formally bow out at least a year ago, so they could have an open cycle of candidates. Really, it should never have even gotten that far. That should have been baked in in 2020. Joe saying he was a one term "Return to Normalcy" candidate should have been a condition of supporting his run, with everyone saying that it is unacceptable to run an 80+ candidate.

    Now if Joe drops out they have to either run Kamala or spurn her--a black!, a woman!, a black woman!!! In the old 20th century Democratic party you could have personal considerations--competency, character, demeanor, electability--bump someone aside. But you're going to give a "black woman" the bum's rush?

    The only upside I see for them is that they'd probably get the Harris debacle over with. She'd lose, leaving 2028 wide open. But they can get that with Biden with less damage. And if somehow or another she actually won ... she would not only take up 2028, but stink up the Democrat's brand for a decade or more.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @anonymous, @Almost Missouri, @Jack D, @Colin Wright, @Anonymous

    ‘…if somehow or another she actually won … she would not only take up 2028, but stink up the Democrat’s brand for a decade or more…’

    If she actually won, it could be academic what the Democrat’s ‘brand’ was in a decade. How was the ‘brand’ of the Kadets by 1925?

    I think we’re headed out the door of the plane without a parachute. I suspect electing Trump won’t be enough — but four more years of either Biden or Harris is definitely not a step in the right direction.

    I would say buy stock in ammunition distributors — but will there be a functioning stock market in a decade? Well, probably…but we’re heading towards some radical rearrangement of the deck chairs — and I doubt I’ll like it. For one, us oldsters need a functioning and properly subsidized health care system. Hard to get that when electric power is a thing of the past.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Colin Wright


    I would say buy stock in ammunition distributors — but will there be a functioning stock market in a decade? Well, probably…but we’re heading towards some radical rearrangement of the deck chairs — and I doubt I’ll like it. For one, us oldsters need a functioning and properly subsidized health care system. Hard to get that when electric power is a thing of the past.
     
    It's not going to be that bleak.

    The US has been rapidly Latinizing, so look to Latin America to see what that looks like. We're generally going to more white, more Asian and more black than those countries and generally more functional. I go with "slumping toward Brazil" to take into account our outsized black population. (Brazil's is even bigger.)

    The US will be functioning for quite a while. Just not nearly as functional as it was historically as a white Western nation dragging the black boat anchor along. But you'll still have electric power.

    ~~

    The real challenges of the future are two-fold:

    1) Because of the open border plus dysgenic fertility US demographics simply are not going to competitive with China. And we're mired in obsessions about stupid stuff--DIE, trannies--that make that all worse. Meanwhile China--though in its own demographic crisis--zooms ahead with technology.

    2) The AI/robotic revolution is gathering pace. Even if that does not mean outright extinction, it looks certain that millions of these "low capability" people that we've waved in--in recent decades or since 1619--are going to be "surplus to requirements". That's a huge problem.

    And those two challenges could dove-tail. The Chinese could simply pull ahead significantly and decide that other peoples and especially the main challenging nation is "in the way". A Chinese AI engineered plague would not surprise me.


    Sadly saddled with this cancerous minoritarian ideology we are enmeshed in a circus of abject silliness--open borders, BLM, you-go-girl!, trannies--and not even any political discussion of these issues, much less being on the cusp of moving toward solutions.

    Replies: @BB753, @Colin Wright

  97. @Batman
    @Matthew Kelly

    >The sole exception was Dana White. I found nothing to criticize in his speech, and much to praise.

    Dana White is a lot like Vince McMahon (of the WWE). He may be an executive, but that job is secondary to his primary job of being an a hypeman. Fighting hypemen are incredibly talented entertainers. It's why the Rock (albeit with a healthy thumb on the scale from affirmative action) so easily transitioned to being a movie star. They're all very good at captivating an arena full of fans with nothing more than a microphone and an empty stage.

    Replies: @Matthew Kelly, @Reg Cæsar

    Agreed, which is what caused me to be surprised by Hulk Hogan’s rather lackluster (imho) speech. Of course, he’s ancient so maybe it was just due to his age.

  98. @Tiny Duck
    Absolutely embarrassing for the country. The Republican party has turned into a clown show. Cruelty mixed with a circus. Nothing but lies. Full of selfish small people. There is a reason the whole world is laughing at us.

    The Democrats will win the next election in a landslide. It won't even be close. Their policies are popular. You guys live in a bubble. You will shocked (again) this fall.

    Demographics are changing. whites will a minority everywhere. Men of Colour are impregnating (with consent) white girls. You cannot change that.

    Vance sold out his won family. He has no morals. His wife will divorce him.

    Trump is an evil traitorous convicted felon. He will be dead or in jail in a few month.

    We will defeat you guys just like we did in 1865, 1945, and 2024.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Ron Mexico, @Old Prude, @Anonymous, @Jack D, @Jus' Sayin'...

    Is Tiny Duck really Harry Sisson? Finkel and Einhorn, Einhorn and Finkel.

    • LOL: Corn
  99. @Anonymous
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Idiocracy said this wouldn’t happen until the year 2505.

    Replies: @Matthew Kelly, @Reg Cæsar

    Prediction’s easy in clownworld, so long as you’re not a clown.

    But as Orwell, Judge, and others demonstrate, getting the timing correct is never easy…

  100. Trump wore the oversized bandage to conceal his fully intact undamaged ear. He gonna wear that til 11/5? Invited Hulk Hogan, a brother in WWF kayfabe techniques like blading, to remind us it’s all fake. Democrats amplify deliciously edging Republican voters, culminating in Diaper’s reselection and NO HAPPY ENDING FOR YOU.

  101. @Observator
    After the speeches of Trump and Vance, so tightly packed with fictions and false promises, it strikes me this morning that MAGA is a kind of Zionism for Murikans. It is the dream of a past that never was, orchestrated by powerful shadow interests that hate democracy and freedom. The big difference here, perhaps, is that they have so much contempt for people who are consistently so easy to fool. Our problem is that other party also fronts for the same interests. Both are equally committed to maintaining the unjust status quo that enables their fierce grip on power. When change finally does come, it will be the result of the cabal’s overseas meddling, which the great majority of the human family is organizing to end.

    Replies: @Currahee

    “human family”???
    LOL!

  102. @Harry Baldwin
    @R.G. Camara

    Great comment. Trump came across as human, reflective, very appreciative to be alive. Before he talked about the shooting, he said something like, "I haven't talked about it yet and I'm only going to talk about it once because it's hard" -- that really struck me. There are things in my own life I can't talk about because I fall apart as soon as I begin. Trump talked matter of factly about one of those sorts of things, in full control of his emotions. He's a strong man. So he rambled a bit--as you said, he earned it. This wasn't the time for a typical political speech.

    As far as Biden having Covid, how do we know that's even true? We are so barraged with lies we can take nothing as given. Claiming Covid is a perfect excuse to hunker down in Delaware while negotiating for the largest severance package he can extract.

    Replies: @Corn, @Prester John, @Old Prude

    “As far as Biden having Covid, how do we know that’s even true?”

    Good question…never thought of that. On the other hand, even if it’s legit then that only makes it all the more necessary to show him the door.

  103. @Percival2
    @Corn

    Xi Jinping has been known to deliver 3-hour long speeches at the CCP congress. But in his case there is this Communist tradition of presenting elaborate political ideology through such a medium.

    Trump has always worked best with soundbites and when things are short and sweet. He certainly isn't an intellectual and he shouldn't try to be.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Corn, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    He comes off as dull and pedantic, and makes a lot of malapropisms similar to Dubya.

    Here he entirely bungled an answer to a Russian moderator, in front of Putin

    But he’s gotten more confident in this term, and people are getting used to his style as being steady.

    His predecessor OTOH can free wheel in English Russian and Japanese.

    • Thanks: Voltarde
  104. @Jack D
    @Mr. Anon


    Trump apparently spoke for an hour and a half. What is he, Castro?
     
    More to the point, what is he not, Biden?

    As 1.5 hr speeches go, he seemed to hold the audience pretty well but I think the length (and hour) was part of the point. Every knows that there's no way Old Joe could be on his feet and talking (not even reading from a teleprompter) for 1.5 hrs near midnight. Joe has been in bed for 4 hrs. at that point.

    Replies: @Tom F., @Reg Cæsar

    Fully agree. These nomination acceptance speeches, like SOU speeches, are mostly for posterity. There won’t be any new converts to Trump, and the party itself without Trump is irrelevant. But biographers and newsmen use those speeches to see what Trump will have accomplished, after identifying problems and suggesting solutions.

    But your point is the best! Building that muscle, to speak for 90 minutes, is an incredible thing!

  105. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    Hulk Hogan, Kid Rock, USA! USA! USA!

    This is the most ‘MURICA thing I’ve ever seen.

    Replies: @QCIC, @Prester John, @Anonymous, @SFG, @Linus, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Pro wrestling fans skews more Democrat than all but a few sports, and has the lowest turnout rate

    https://www.businessinsider.com/politics-sports-you-like-2013-3

    • Replies: @Torna atrás
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    South Korea is now comfortably better than Japan as a country

    -South Korea now enjoys a higher gdp per capita (PPP) as of 2019

    -South Korea has a lower cost of living and higher wages

    -Due to the system you can rent for cheap as a low as $500 a month in a 1 bedroom in Gangnam

    -With a better public transport system (Yes Seoul's is better than Tokyo and cheaper too)

    -People are more open and expressive than Japan(this can be a positive depending on the person). But its easier to make friends

    -Cities are much more vibrant. Seoul for example boasts much more greenspace compared to Tokyo, every apartment complex has a nice area at the bottom for green space and hanging out while Tokyo is a nonstop concrete jungle except for a few spots

    -SK's economy is still booming non stop while Japan's is stagnant

    -SK is much more technologically advanced like way more

    -Healthcare is comparable but I'd give SK the edge

    -SK will adapt to technology to keep advancing while Japan is content with what they have (Fax machines)

    -SK is great as a English teacher. your rent is covered by the school and you only have to work on average 22 hours a week and can easily save $1200 a month. While its a terrible job in Japan

    -SK acknowledges the bad things it has done and apologized. The Japanese government doesn't do the same and doesn't teach it in school

    -South Korea's popularity is sky rocketing while Japans has been stagnant

    -Korean food is better IMO

    Of course there are things in Japan that are better but overall there are more positives in Korea

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  106. @Anonymous
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Idiocracy said this wouldn’t happen until the year 2505.

    Replies: @Matthew Kelly, @Reg Cæsar

    Idiocracy said this wouldn’t happen until the year 2505.

    They were dyslectic. They meant 2025.

    Speaking of which, the Y2K bug has finally arrived, 24½ years late, via something called “CrowdStrike”, based in Austin, Texas. (That other Spam is based in Austin, Minnesota.) Is this something we need to pay attention to? Other than a delayed package or flight? Okay, 911. (But we’re a two-minute walk from the EMT station, so that’s your problem.)

    If this CrowdStrike is so critical, how come we’ve never heard of it before? “You don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone”, as Joni sang.

    Also, the name is disturbing. Sounds like an Antifa clone.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Reg Cæsar

    If this CrowdStrike is so critical, how come we’ve never heard of it before?

    We heard of it in 2016 when the DNC brought it in to figure out who hacked their server. Crowdstrike declared, "Russia! Russia! Russia!", as that was the thing to do at the time. Later, Crowdstrike admitted it had no evidence to support that.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @HA

  107. @John Gruskos
    The Republican platform has two planks:
    1. Fight a war against Iran for the benefit of Israel.
    2. Eliminate the first amendment on campus for the benefit of Israel.

    Bill Ackman's Israel-First agenda can't generate any genuine enthusiasm.

    The revolutionary American nationalist energy of 2016 was completely and utterly absent.

    Replies: @Sgt Sternhammer, @Jack D, @Bragadocious, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Bill Jones

    Maybe you hyperventilating clowns should stop with the Israel stuff. You’ll never get your way and you should learn to cope. The 2016 campaign had no anti-Israel stuff. Go back and look if you don’t believe me. The most Trump would say is that he wanted to make a deal. That was it. He did exit office pretty much hating Netanyahu, FWIW.

    Anyway, Israel is about the 20th most important thing on Trump’s plate right now. Freeing the US from Britain’s maximalist Ukraine psychosis is the #1 priority, and probably priorities 2 and 3 as well. He’s appointed a VP who is getting savaged in the British press right now, and this is an excellent sign.

    • Replies: @Manfred Arcane
    @Bragadocious

    Agreed! I almost feel like some of the Unz commenters would declare victory if America simply cut off aid to Israel without doing anything to deal with the issues that actually matter. The open border, offshoring and outsourcing, the medical-industrial complex that's giving us the Covid shots and the trans surgeries, woke capital, the idiotic escalation with Russia, the BLM and Antifa rioters, the groomers in the public schools, the push for world government, the ongoing demonization of white people--these are all issues a hundred times more important than the issue of which side we support in a little war in the Middle East. Unless, I suppose, you buy into the paranoia that says the Jews are a united worldwide front and the Israeli government is the "final boss"--which is sheer nonsense. Israel doesn't give a bleep about America's domestic policies so long as they keep receiving support, and isn't responsible for the US's decline; in fact, I'm sure they'd prefer America to tilt towards the right again, since the young brown leftwing "new Americans" are not likely to support a white colonial state like Israel. Yes, there are lots of American Jewish leftists involved in the American decline, but they're not getting their marching orders from Israel--as the hard left's ardent support for Hamas should make clear. Again, liberal American Jewish boomers' support for Israel is not somehow part of an evil Master Plan, but an unprincipled exception and historical accident that will fade as new generations of leftists, Jewish and Gentile, come to power in America.

    , @Colin Wright
    @Bragadocious


    'Maybe you hyperventilating clowns should stop with the Israel stuff...'
     
    Disagree. We do many foolish, selfish, self-destructive things. The one act of outright evil we engage in is to support Israel. It's like I drink too much, take out pay day loans -- and molest small children. Which behavior should I address first?

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    , @John Gruskos
    @Bragadocious

    I agree that immigration restriction and peace with Russia are more important than extricating US foreign policy from the control of the Israel lobby.

    But in order to implement immigration restriction and peace with Russia, it is first necessary to win the election.

    Trump's support for Israel is not an electoral asset, it is an electoral liability.

    No important voting blocks will be lost if Trump adopts a consistent America First foreign policy. Contrary to the mainstream media narrative, Evangelicals don't really care very much one way or the other about the Israel issue. Jews are only 3% of the population, concentrated in deep blue states like New York and California which are guaranteed to vote Democrat no matter how Jews vote. And anyhow, most Jewish Zionists are perfectly comfortable trusting Schumer, Schiff and Blinken to conduct affairs to their satisfaction in the Middle East.

    On the other hand, huge numbers of young people, Blacks, progressives, Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims are radically dissatisfied with the Democratic Party establishment's support for Israel -
    Minnesota: 18.8%
    Michigan: 13.2%
    North Carolina: 12.73%
    Wisconsin: 8.4%

    This is the one really new development in US politics which has a potential to make the 2024 presidential election results different from 2020.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  108. MGB says:
    @Jack D
    @John Gruskos

    If the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a Jew.

    Replies: @MGB

    so nice of you to conflate the state of “israel” with “the jews”, the word “jew/s” never once appearing in his comment. you and your brethren have no one but yourselves to blame if others don’t make the effort to distinguish between the two, but that’s the goal isn’t it?

    • Agree: R.G. Camara
  109. @Jack D
    @Mr. Anon


    Trump apparently spoke for an hour and a half. What is he, Castro?
     
    More to the point, what is he not, Biden?

    As 1.5 hr speeches go, he seemed to hold the audience pretty well but I think the length (and hour) was part of the point. Every knows that there's no way Old Joe could be on his feet and talking (not even reading from a teleprompter) for 1.5 hrs near midnight. Joe has been in bed for 4 hrs. at that point.

    Replies: @Tom F., @Reg Cæsar

    Every knows that there’s no way Old Joe could be on his feet and talking (not even reading from a teleprompter) for 1.5 hrs near midnight.

    If Donald is the new Grover Cleveland, Joe is both the new Benjamin and William Henry Harrison!

  110. @Harry Baldwin
    @R.G. Camara

    Great comment. Trump came across as human, reflective, very appreciative to be alive. Before he talked about the shooting, he said something like, "I haven't talked about it yet and I'm only going to talk about it once because it's hard" -- that really struck me. There are things in my own life I can't talk about because I fall apart as soon as I begin. Trump talked matter of factly about one of those sorts of things, in full control of his emotions. He's a strong man. So he rambled a bit--as you said, he earned it. This wasn't the time for a typical political speech.

    As far as Biden having Covid, how do we know that's even true? We are so barraged with lies we can take nothing as given. Claiming Covid is a perfect excuse to hunker down in Delaware while negotiating for the largest severance package he can extract.

    Replies: @Corn, @Prester John, @Old Prude

    If the media says Biden has Covid, he doesn’t. Lies. All Lies.

  111. @Reg Cæsar
    @Harry Baldwin


    Why not actually watch the speech before commenting on it?
     
    Funny, the only speech we watched was Hulk Hogan's. For some odd reason, it was featured on the Wall Street Journal's video channel, on which I check the "Hits and Misses" every week. The missus overheard his voice, and it was '90s nostalgia for her.

    (I missed his entire career, sometimes confusing him with Paul. How's that for being checked out of pop culture?)

    The Democrats aren't the only party which competes with the couch. Hulk may serve as a cattle prod of sorts.

    Replies: @Old Prude

    I wonder how real Hulk’s voice is. I once had Sargent Slaughter on my radio show, and when the mic was off, he talked like a normal person. When it was on, he sounded like Hulk Hogan.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Old Prude

    You can find clips of his fairly recent interview on Joe Rogan's show. He puts some gravel into it for his shtick, but in normal conversation his voice is fairly deep.

    And small quibble but it's spelled sergeant, and the wrestler Bob Remus' gimmick was spelled merely "Sgt. Slaughter."

    The yt channels Title Match Wrestling and The Hannibal TV have collected a tremendous amount of interviews with pro wrestlers from the 80's, including Slaughter. Some of them are fascinating to listen to. Bobby Heenan's and Gene Okerlund's are outstanding.

  112. @Tiny Duck
    Absolutely embarrassing for the country. The Republican party has turned into a clown show. Cruelty mixed with a circus. Nothing but lies. Full of selfish small people. There is a reason the whole world is laughing at us.

    The Democrats will win the next election in a landslide. It won't even be close. Their policies are popular. You guys live in a bubble. You will shocked (again) this fall.

    Demographics are changing. whites will a minority everywhere. Men of Colour are impregnating (with consent) white girls. You cannot change that.

    Vance sold out his won family. He has no morals. His wife will divorce him.

    Trump is an evil traitorous convicted felon. He will be dead or in jail in a few month.

    We will defeat you guys just like we did in 1865, 1945, and 2024.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Ron Mexico, @Old Prude, @Anonymous, @Jack D, @Jus' Sayin'...

    Look who’s hear! Tiny Duck! You started off strong with the first paragraph Duck. Well done.

  113. @Mike Tre
    @Stan Adams

    It might have been over long to imply he’s not afraid of another assassination attempt out in the open.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    That’s certainly possible.

  114. @Mr. Anon
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality


    In general, the convention was a mix of goofball boomer cuckoldry combined with a glimmers of something better.
     
    They even managed to bring out one of the last living WWII vets in a final act of Greatest Generation worship/envy and paraded him on the speaking platform as if he were a museum piece. Nazi, Nazi, Nazi (nobody ever calls them "Germans" anymore, as the actual generation that fought that war did most of the time). Did we mention we beat the Nazis! (Don't mention the Red Army). USA! USA! USA!

    I believe JD Vance said America wasn’t an “idea”, it’s an actual people.
     
    He said it was more than "just an idea". But still, that's better than I've heard from any other American politician. It was novel that he actually stated what is obviously true that America is a people and a nation. Well, it was once, anyway. Maybe not anymore. I would like to see that whole "America is an idea", "America is an experiment", and the rest, buried in an unmarked grave.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Gandydancer

    “He [Vance] said it was more than “just an idea”. But still, that’s better than I’ve heard from any other American politician. It was novel that he actually stated what is obviously true that America is a people and a nation.”

    Actually at this point, for practical/satirical purposes, I’d prefer it if we really did advertise that America was “just an idea” and not a real place that you could sneak into and loot.

    We could say to immigrants, “America is really just an idea; so, we are going to print out the idea, and fax or mail it to you, and then you can stay at home and implement the idea, at home in the comfort of your native toilet bowl. No need to come here! Besides, there’s no place to actually come to; we’re *just* an idea!”

    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic
    • Thanks: Gordo
    • LOL: Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Damn, that was a really good point. Insightful too. Probably one of the best of this entire post.

    , @RadicalCenter
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    You’re a real mean spirited jackass to call all those toilet bowl countries. Exactly the arrogant, childish, hypocritical Fatmerican Way.

    A rapidly increasing number of Americans, Canadians, and “british” are starting to acquire legal residence, sometimes citizenship in some of the alleged toilet bowl countries — not for retirement, either, but far earlier in life (for people who can do their jobs, or run their business, online).

    Moreover, some of the so-called toilet bowl countries are at least improving, on balance, while we agree that the USA is, well, circling the toilet bowl. Take a look at BOTH urban areas and many rural areas and tell us that they’re not: permanently economically depressed, lazy or demoralized and unproductive, unsafe, culturally savage / vulgar / hypersexualized / perverse, deindustrialized, physically filthy and ugly, unhealthy, low-trust, fearful, hopeless places with decaying infrastructure, inadequate hospital capacity that hasn’t increased in decades, etc.

    And by the way, many people with resources — hence real options around the world — are NOT moving to the USA, but elsewhere. People looking to TAKE from us are coming in greater numbers than ever. People who have supported themselves and their families effectively, and who cannot stomach the US’s systematic ignorance and bullying / mass-murdering abroad and surveillance and anti-white hatred and anti-family media and schools and perversion and garbage culture, are flowing, net, out of the USA, Canada, and the “uk.” Including our family.

    Enjoy your toilet bowl country, Fatmerican.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @David Davenport

  115. DM has an interesting article today on the fast ID of the Trump shooter.

    How the FBI identified Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks within hours – and how they could do the same for YOU

    The gunman, ‘loner’ Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20, was not carrying an ID, had no criminal record, nearly zero digital footprint and no friends, forcing the FBI to resort to DNA analysis to identity him.

    As Kevin Rojek, the special agent-in-charge (SAIC) for the FBI’s Pittsburgh field office, told reporters just hours after the shooting on Saturday, ‘We’re trying to run his DNA and get biometric confirmation.’

    While the FBI declined to answer DailyMail.com’s requests for details on how they did this DNA analysis, experts say it has often included scouring consumer genealogy databases like Ancestory.com and 23andMe — which store tens of millions of Americans’ biometric data each.

    One parallel effort conducted by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) ‘completed an urgent trace’ that ultimately led to the ‘business records from a closed gun dealer,’ according to an ATF statement.

    That effort, a frantic, manual search through the closed gun shop’s paper records, helped trace the rifle to the Crooks’ father, according to a report by CNN.

    ‘Results were provided to the FBI and Secret Service in less than 30 minutes that helped identify the shooter,’ ATF reported a day after the FBI’s DNA announcement.

    [LOL. Paper records? ]

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13636701/DNA-database-Trump-shooter-Thomas-Matthew-Crooks-FBI.html

    • Replies: @QCIC
    @Joe Stalin

    Did he have a driver's license? If so, tentative facial recognition in short order.

    Also, the kid was in a BlackRock video. AI should pick that up quickly as well.

    , @Jack D
    @Joe Stalin

    If you read the article closely, it indicates that they found him thru the gun records and not thru the DNA. They were "trying" to run the DNA but it doesn't appear that they had succeeded by the time they found the gun records. Finding unknown perps via DNA is entirely possible but it also usually involves doing genealogy research and is not something that you can do in a few hours using present technology. I'm sure that eventually Big Data will also digitize family trees so that such a search can be done instantly, but not yet.

  116. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    Idiocracy said this wouldn’t happen until the year 2505.
     
    They were dyslectic. They meant 2025.

    Speaking of which, the Y2K bug has finally arrived, 24½ years late, via something called "CrowdStrike", based in Austin, Texas. (That other Spam is based in Austin, Minnesota.) Is this something we need to pay attention to? Other than a delayed package or flight? Okay, 911. (But we're a two-minute walk from the EMT station, so that's your problem.)

    If this CrowdStrike is so critical, how come we've never heard of it before? "You don't know what you've got till it's gone", as Joni sang.

    Also, the name is disturbing. Sounds like an Antifa clone.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    If this CrowdStrike is so critical, how come we’ve never heard of it before?

    We heard of it in 2016 when the DNC brought it in to figure out who hacked their server. Crowdstrike declared, “Russia! Russia! Russia!”, as that was the thing to do at the time. Later, Crowdstrike admitted it had no evidence to support that.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Harry Baldwin

    One of the two guys in Crowdstrike is a never-Putin Russian, Dmitri Alperovitch. Been here since 1994.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitri_Alperovitch

    Still, I think that for safety's sake all Crowdstrike usage should be suspended until we can figure out what the hell's going on. He could be a well-disguised sleeper.

    , @HA
    @Harry Baldwin

    "We heard of it in 2016 when the DNC brought it in to figure out who hacked their server. Crowdstrike declared, “Russia! Russia! Russia!”, as that was the thing to do at the time. Later, Crowdstrike admitted it had no evidence to support that."

    Do you have a source for that alleged backtracking admission? This is from Crowdstrike's own website (as of 2000):

    Yes. CrowdStrike’s conclusion that Russia was behind the DNC hack is supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and also by independent Congressional reports. Most recently, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report in April 2020 that validated the previous conclusions of the Intelligence Community Assessment... all concluding that Russia was behind the DNC data breach.
     

    And this is from the Times of India published 8 hours ago:

    Political experts have said that Trump's questioning of CrowdStrike's findings [implicating Russia] were meant the undermine the established narrative of Russian interference, which had been supported by multiple US investigations...

    Trump's assertions also ignited a series of conspiracy theories that suggested the DNC had somehow fabricated the hacking incident....These theories persisted despite CrowdStrike's transparent methodology in handling the investigation, which involved creating forensic images of the DNC servers...a standard practice in cybersecurity investigations.

     

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Jus' Sayin'..., @HA

  117. @ScarletNumber
    @AnotherDad


    I hope he had solid focus that the “Biden Administration”‘s open border is a war upon Americans... Also hope he gave a shout out to the hero dad murdered in PA
     
    LOL Maybe you should spend less time hoping and more time doing even a modicum of research. So lazy

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Gandydancer

    LOL Maybe you should spend less time hoping and more time doing even a modicum of research. So lazy

    Yep. But less lazy than my norm. My walking time–when sunset hits, I can switch my walk onto the golf course. (Picked up four balls last night, but putting with my shoe is not particularly accurate.)

    Seriously, I rely on y’all, my fellow iSteve commenters, to bring me up to speed.

    I’ve vote for Trump a third time. Was thinking of slapping up my own sign “Trump: Because he pisses off all the right people!” But listening to Trump–or any of these guys–is just too depressing, as there’s such a gap between their blather and a clear articulation of the existential crisis in the West and what needs to be done.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @AnotherDad


    I’ve vote for Trump a third time
     
    Pshaw, only the 3rd time? Most voters in Philly have voted for Biden at least 4 or 5 times. And that was just in the 2020 election.
    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @AnotherDad

    "But listening to Trump–or any of these guys–is just too depressing, as there’s such a gap between their blather and a clear articulation of the existential crisis in the West and what needs to be done."

    Yep.

    What's needed more than anything right now is a sort of well-written, well-thought-out, but-still-a-barn-burner pamphlet, easily disseminated, along the lines of "Common Sense."

    PAINE: I will tie its title like a fuse: Common Sense.

    PAINE'S REPUTATION: He wrote that book and the dogs were unleashed, and Treason ran screaming through the streets.

    -- Paul Foster, "Tom Paine, a Play in Two Parts"

    , @danand
    @AnotherDad

    "...gap between their blather and a clear articulation of the existential crisis in the West and what needs to be done"

    AnotherDad, this 5 min clip of Tucker (thankfully "the laugh" absent) during his Australian tour, should in my mind, have been the cornerstone of the RNC convention. Well articulated, straight to your point:

    https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1806097705866867089

    Replies: @vinteuil, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    , @John Johnson
    @AnotherDad

    But listening to Trump–or any of these guys–is just too depressing, as there’s such a gap between their blather and a clear articulation of the existential crisis in the West and what needs to be done.

    Well according to Trump he had everything fixed in his first term.

    He even blamed Putin's invasion on Biden.

  118. “Why is Trump still talking at approaching midnight on the East Coast?”

    Because he can. He paid for the microphone.

    It’s his show, and his circus.

    • Troll: ScarletNumber
  119. Anonymous[374] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Absolutely embarrassing for the country. The Republican party has turned into a clown show. Cruelty mixed with a circus. Nothing but lies. Full of selfish small people. There is a reason the whole world is laughing at us.

    The Democrats will win the next election in a landslide. It won't even be close. Their policies are popular. You guys live in a bubble. You will shocked (again) this fall.

    Demographics are changing. whites will a minority everywhere. Men of Colour are impregnating (with consent) white girls. You cannot change that.

    Vance sold out his won family. He has no morals. His wife will divorce him.

    Trump is an evil traitorous convicted felon. He will be dead or in jail in a few month.

    We will defeat you guys just like we did in 1865, 1945, and 2024.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Ron Mexico, @Old Prude, @Anonymous, @Jack D, @Jus' Sayin'...

    I love the switching in your comments between copy-and-pasting from more put-together liberals and adding your own mentally ill dingbattery. It’s like you find something that sounds smart (to you), repost it here, and then think “How can I really drive my point home? I know, Men of Colour impregnating (with consent) white girls.”

  120. @Tiny Duck
    Absolutely embarrassing for the country. The Republican party has turned into a clown show. Cruelty mixed with a circus. Nothing but lies. Full of selfish small people. There is a reason the whole world is laughing at us.

    The Democrats will win the next election in a landslide. It won't even be close. Their policies are popular. You guys live in a bubble. You will shocked (again) this fall.

    Demographics are changing. whites will a minority everywhere. Men of Colour are impregnating (with consent) white girls. You cannot change that.

    Vance sold out his won family. He has no morals. His wife will divorce him.

    Trump is an evil traitorous convicted felon. He will be dead or in jail in a few month.

    We will defeat you guys just like we did in 1865, 1945, and 2024.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Ron Mexico, @Old Prude, @Anonymous, @Jack D, @Jus' Sayin'...

    We will defeat you guys just like we did in 1865, 1945, and 2024.

    We will defeat you in 2024 just like we did in 2024! Are you attempting a Biden imitation or something? Or is this an attempt at Kamala Harris word salad?

    BTW, did you know that Womens of Colour are being impregnated by white men too, that it’s a two way street? Pure brown Brahmin women like Vance’s wife are giving birth to half blood whites! Not that Kamala has any children but she sleeps with a white man also – if not impregnating they at least go through the motions, so to speak.

  121. @AnotherDad
    @ScarletNumber


    LOL Maybe you should spend less time hoping and more time doing even a modicum of research. So lazy
     
    Yep. But less lazy than my norm. My walking time--when sunset hits, I can switch my walk onto the golf course. (Picked up four balls last night, but putting with my shoe is not particularly accurate.)

    Seriously, I rely on y'all, my fellow iSteve commenters, to bring me up to speed.

    I've vote for Trump a third time. Was thinking of slapping up my own sign "Trump: Because he pisses off all the right people!" But listening to Trump--or any of these guys--is just too depressing, as there's such a gap between their blather and a clear articulation of the existential crisis in the West and what needs to be done.

    Replies: @Jack D, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @danand, @John Johnson

    I’ve vote for Trump a third time

    Pshaw, only the 3rd time? Most voters in Philly have voted for Biden at least 4 or 5 times. And that was just in the 2020 election.

    • LOL: Frau Katze
  122. @Linus
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    That and the head tat whore made me wonder what exactly we are conserving.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Yngvar, @Gandydancer

    The head tat whore, Amber Rose, a former stripper/hooker whose main claim to fame was being Kanye’s booty call, was given a platform during prime time, over other conservatives of color such as Candace Owens. No matter what you may think of Candace Owens, she actually has worked within conservative movement for half a decade.

    Per the work of conservative columnist Pedro Gonzalez, Amber Rose up until this spring was praising Satanism, is very pro-LGBT and abortion, hawks cryptocurrency, and has an OnlyFans account.

    Also, her most recent baby daddy dumped her for…CHER. Yes, THAT Cher–who’s now 78 yrs old.

    It simply doesn’t make any sense why she was invited to speak on the stage, unless of course we apply Occam’s Razor–it’s Trump’s show, and he wanted her to speak. After all, let’s not forget the reason for the federal lawsuit in NY–over a pornstar. The closeups of him listening to her speaking while on the stage show that he was more than interested in what she had to say.

    Noticing the historical trend. The likes of Amber Rose would apparently very much be Trump’s type of woman, both publicly and privately. There’s a clear pattern that that’s what he prefers. After all, former First Lady Melania was an underwear model for Victoria’s Secret.

    She basically was there during prime time to verbal felatio him on the stage right in front of him, and this coming from a woman who used to make a living doing this sort of job off stage and in hotel rooms.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Alternatively, the Republicans are going after blacks and young people. Candace Owens is the sort of black person who is appealing to older white voters, not other black and young people. And to people who don't get the vapors when someone like Amber Rose appears on the stage.

    The idea of the convention is to make Republicans appear to be a big tent and not something that is just for white Christians who are already voting for them anyway.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  123. No Lynne Cheney, I’m sure the folks at TheBulwark.com feel snubbed.

  124. No Lynne Cheney speech, I’m sure the folks at TheBulwark.com feel cheated.

  125. @AnotherDad
    @ScarletNumber


    LOL Maybe you should spend less time hoping and more time doing even a modicum of research. So lazy
     
    Yep. But less lazy than my norm. My walking time--when sunset hits, I can switch my walk onto the golf course. (Picked up four balls last night, but putting with my shoe is not particularly accurate.)

    Seriously, I rely on y'all, my fellow iSteve commenters, to bring me up to speed.

    I've vote for Trump a third time. Was thinking of slapping up my own sign "Trump: Because he pisses off all the right people!" But listening to Trump--or any of these guys--is just too depressing, as there's such a gap between their blather and a clear articulation of the existential crisis in the West and what needs to be done.

    Replies: @Jack D, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @danand, @John Johnson

    “But listening to Trump–or any of these guys–is just too depressing, as there’s such a gap between their blather and a clear articulation of the existential crisis in the West and what needs to be done.”

    Yep.

    What’s needed more than anything right now is a sort of well-written, well-thought-out, but-still-a-barn-burner pamphlet, easily disseminated, along the lines of “Common Sense.”

    PAINE: I will tie its title like a fuse: Common Sense.

    PAINE’S REPUTATION: He wrote that book and the dogs were unleashed, and Treason ran screaming through the streets.

    — Paul Foster, “Tom Paine, a Play in Two Parts”

  126. @Reg Cæsar
    @Harry Baldwin



    One of the observers (noticers) of standup.
     
    I enjoyed Bob Newhart’s comedy but I can’t forget Don Rickles introducing him as “One of the great stammering idiots of our time.”
     
    Look closely, and you'll notice that he was never funny himself, just everything around him was suddenly hilarious. He played straight man to a wacky world. Fellow Chicagolander Jack Benny was like that, too. Newhart took the same shtick and honed it to perfection.

    Steve, too.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Also, Benny’s schtick was made for radio, but it wasn’t as effective on television. For some reason, by the time of the ’70’s, Newhart’s work was considered fresh, new, up to date, and interesting. Clearly also a major influence on the’90’s show Seinfeld. Seinfeld is simply another comic in this vein, except as he’s from NY, he boisterously exclaims (and as loudly as he possibly can) ‘DID YA EVER NOTICE–”

    Uh, no, Jerry, we never actually did notice, even though Newhart and Benny both did this type of thing multiple decades ago before your first birthday.

    Zowie.

    Steve is in a completely different ballpark (Wrigley, since Comiskey is no longer around).

    There’s a third Chicago connection. Steve himself lived in CHI town for several years.

  127. @Batman
    @Matthew Kelly

    >The sole exception was Dana White. I found nothing to criticize in his speech, and much to praise.

    Dana White is a lot like Vince McMahon (of the WWE). He may be an executive, but that job is secondary to his primary job of being an a hypeman. Fighting hypemen are incredibly talented entertainers. It's why the Rock (albeit with a healthy thumb on the scale from affirmative action) so easily transitioned to being a movie star. They're all very good at captivating an arena full of fans with nothing more than a microphone and an empty stage.

    Replies: @Matthew Kelly, @Reg Cæsar

    It’s why the Rock (albeit with a healthy thumb on the scale from affirmative action) so easily transitioned to being a movie star.

    Samoans control Hollywood?

  128. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    No one is naming the Jew, therefore nothing serious or substantial will get done. As usual.

    Can't have a real country or a real politics, if you can't or won't identify its real mortal enemies.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @MGB, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @AnotherDad

    No one is naming the Jew

    At the convention conclusion, when all the attending family members were on stage, for a moment Kushner was in the background and I was shouting at the screen: “Hey Trump! He’s right behind you! For fuck’s sake, turn around!”

  129. @AnotherDad
    @ScarletNumber


    LOL Maybe you should spend less time hoping and more time doing even a modicum of research. So lazy
     
    Yep. But less lazy than my norm. My walking time--when sunset hits, I can switch my walk onto the golf course. (Picked up four balls last night, but putting with my shoe is not particularly accurate.)

    Seriously, I rely on y'all, my fellow iSteve commenters, to bring me up to speed.

    I've vote for Trump a third time. Was thinking of slapping up my own sign "Trump: Because he pisses off all the right people!" But listening to Trump--or any of these guys--is just too depressing, as there's such a gap between their blather and a clear articulation of the existential crisis in the West and what needs to be done.

    Replies: @Jack D, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @danand, @John Johnson

    “…gap between their blather and a clear articulation of the existential crisis in the West and what needs to be done”

    AnotherDad, this 5 min clip of Tucker (thankfully “the laugh” absent) during his Australian tour, should in my mind, have been the cornerstone of the RNC convention. Well articulated, straight to your point:

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    @danand

    Wow. I like Tucker, but that took me by surprise.

    Replies: @BB753, @Pierre de Craon

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @danand

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNHdPPJGowY&list=RDGMEMJQXQAmqrnmK1SEjY_rKBGA&start_radio=1&rv=xwTPvcPYaOo

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

  130. @Corn
    @Percival2


    Xi Jinping has been known to deliver 3-hour long speeches at the CCP congress
     
    .

    I also think that perhaps TV and internet have shortened our attention spans. I believe I’ve read that 100-150 years ago that two or three hour speeches were common. Now Trump’s hour and a half long speech is treated as unprecedented ramble.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    In Victorian England the pages of the Times were full of verbatim transcripts of the speeches in Commons and Lords.

    Didn’t need some reporter summarising a debate – you could read the whole debate, for and against, in the Times pages.

    Obviously it helped if you didn’t have money to make or lawns to mow. Just sit in your club and read the debates, maybe discuss them with your friends – and if you were in London, you might find the speakers from the debates in there later.

    • Thanks: Corn
  131. @Harry Baldwin
    @Reg Cæsar

    If this CrowdStrike is so critical, how come we’ve never heard of it before?

    We heard of it in 2016 when the DNC brought it in to figure out who hacked their server. Crowdstrike declared, "Russia! Russia! Russia!", as that was the thing to do at the time. Later, Crowdstrike admitted it had no evidence to support that.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @HA

    One of the two guys in Crowdstrike is a never-Putin Russian, Dmitri Alperovitch. Been here since 1994.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitri_Alperovitch

    Still, I think that for safety’s sake all Crowdstrike usage should be suspended until we can figure out what the hell’s going on. He could be a well-disguised sleeper.

  132. @Anonymous
    Trump heaped a lot of praise on the Secret Service, and it was obvious with their heavy all-male presence around Trump at the RNC that it was itself partly PR in an attempt to repair their image.

    Secret Service should’ve worried about who they were recruiting years ago. Remember this story?


    Secret Service agent under fire after posting she wouldn't take bullet for Trump

    Steph Solis
    USA TODAY
    Jan. 24, 2017

    The Secret Service is "taking appropriate action" after a special agent wrote a Facebook post suggesting she wouldn't take a bullet for Donald Trump if he were president.

    A Secret Service spokesperson confirmed that the agency was aware of Facebook posts made by special agent Kerry O'Grady, but wouldn't elaborate on them further because it is a personnel matter…

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/25/01/3C7A82B400000578-0-image-a-40_1485307882627.jpg

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/01/24/secret-service-agent-kerry-o-grady-social-media-posts/97015422/

     

    The Navy SEALs and other U.S. special forces don’t allow women in their ranks. Crazy that the protective detail of the U.S. president has women. What a mistake.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Bill Jones, @Gandydancer

    Can’t entirely agree, there is room for a few female Secret Service agents.

    Suppose at some event your First Lady has to go to the toilet?

    Who will go in with her?

  133. Trumps speech seems to be the bastard child of the prepared speech he’s had prepared for the convention for a couple of weeks and the stuff that’s been on his mind for the last few days.
    Not much of a surprise, all things considered,

  134. Anonymous[258] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @MEH 0910

    It’s hilarious that the neighbor on the same street where Buttigieg grow up on in South Bend is none other than E. Michael Jones.


    Home Alone: A Neighbor's Thoughts on Pete Buttigieg
    April 01, 2019/ E. Michael Jones

    https://culturewars.com/news/home-alone-a-neighbors-thoughts-on-pete-buttigieg
     

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Does anyone have a link to the complete article (don’t want to pay to see the rest of it).

    Who is E Michael Jones and is that someone we are supposed to have heard of?

    • Replies: @Ralph L
    @Anonymous

    I didn't have to pay anything, and it was worth what I paid for it.

    , @Bill Jones
    @Anonymous

    https://www.unz.com/author/e-michael-jones/

  135. @danand
    @AnotherDad

    "...gap between their blather and a clear articulation of the existential crisis in the West and what needs to be done"

    AnotherDad, this 5 min clip of Tucker (thankfully "the laugh" absent) during his Australian tour, should in my mind, have been the cornerstone of the RNC convention. Well articulated, straight to your point:

    https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1806097705866867089

    Replies: @vinteuil, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Wow. I like Tucker, but that took me by surprise.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @vinteuil

    Except Blacks have a birth replacement rate, Whites do not. I see what Tucker did there.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    , @Pierre de Craon
    @vinteuil

    Unfortunately, it didn't take me by surprise that Carlson won't explicitly defend white people.

    Anyone who refers to the Great Replacement—whether in so many words or euphemistically, whether for it or against it—knows that the people the (((Deep State))) is ridding the United States of are white people, the overwhelming mass of whom are Christian white people. The same thing is going on, of course, in Europe and Oceania.

    The Australian girl posing the proudly anti-white pseudo-question is indeed a truly despicable human being, in no small part because her phony question embodies a quantum of moral posturing that any reader of the New Testament would be inclined to recognize as pharisaical. Carlson is no better than she is, morally speaking. He is certainly glibber than she is, but nothing on earth is going to get him to forthrightly declare that his own people, the white minority of earth's human beings, have been slandered as uniquely murderous, exploitative, and enslaving and have been targeted for destruction by a Tribe that has cultivated self-regard, hypocrisy, and deceit to unimagined heights. Such a declaration would take courage, and that is something he can fake but doesn't actually possess.

  136. @J.Ross
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Was it truly around the world, or just among the Atlanticist war addicts who think that they are the world?

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Pretty much everywhere Microsoft runs – certainly the whole Anglosphere. EU, Israel, Aus/NZ, India, Mexico, Malaysia.

    Not China or Russia.

  137. @danand
    @AnotherDad

    "...gap between their blather and a clear articulation of the existential crisis in the West and what needs to be done"

    AnotherDad, this 5 min clip of Tucker (thankfully "the laugh" absent) during his Australian tour, should in my mind, have been the cornerstone of the RNC convention. Well articulated, straight to your point:

    https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1806097705866867089

    Replies: @vinteuil, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    There’s definitely no accounting for taste.

  138. @Almost Missouri
    @AnotherDad


    they have to either run Kamala or spurn her–a black!, a woman!, a black woman!!!
    ...
    get the Harris debacle over with
     
    I don't quite understand the DNC's aversion to running with Kamala. Yeah okay, she's supposedly a crappy person. As if Backfire Joe wasn't a crappy a person? Their media whores have already demonstrated there's no level of degradation to which they won't stoop to promote whatever narrative asked of them no matter how implausible. And Kamala doesn't come with the Lady Macbeth spouse, coke-addled felony-and-corruption-broadcasting son, and bizarre daughter-showering and child stranger-danger habits. Kamala's already married to her Jewish minder, so they don't have to appoint another embarrassingly kosher kabinet for her. Whatever piece of crap she is, it is less than the crap they've been making everyone else put up with the last four years. Yeah okay, she's a skank who BJed her way up the party ladder. So what? The Dems can look at their base and say, "Hey, we've all been there, right?" and they'll shrug it off, because they have. Kamala's far from perfect, but she looks like all upside compared to where they are now. Yet, there's some stubborn resistance to going with the "black" woman they all insisted was so great four years ago.

    The only way I can figure it is that they can't keep her office staffed because she's such a bitch. But that's probably just because they're letting her choose her own staff and so she chooses B!lack women who are just as bitchy and even more thin-skinned than herself. But if she's President, then she has to accept the cabinet, and I'm sure those guys will have no problem telling her what to do. There's still the problem of her low-IQ vapid speechifying, but after four years of excusing Cadaver Joe's necrotic emissions, Kamala's waftings would be a veritable breath of fresh air. Vacuity is good by comparison.

    It's almost like they just don't want to Celebrate Diversity.

    Replies: @Corn, @Colin Wright, @AnotherDad

    ‘I don’t quite understand the DNC’s aversion to running with Kamala…’

    The problem is that nobody likes her. In those primaries she entered in 2020, her vote tallies were literally in the hundreds. Just last week in a poll in Georgia — a very black state — Biden did four percent better against Trump than she did. They both lost, but Harris lost worse. Blacks don’t like her — not that she’s black.

    Some people shouldn’t run for office. It doesn’t even have much to do with personal qualities. It’s just a matter of who people will like. People liked Reagan. They wouldn’t like me. They don’t like Kamala Harris.

    They never will. She shouldn’t seek public office.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Colin Wright

    The US Senate seems to be a broken institution. Like you said, nobody likes Kamala. She can't work a room, she has no stage presence or gravitas, she can't even dress well. She's an awkward phony and midwit. Nobody likes Lindsay Graham. Nobody liked John McCain or Joe Lieberman. Joe Biden has always been regarded as a buffoon and a creep. Yet there they are, US Senators.

    "District Attorney" and "Attorney General" are easy places to park mediocrities being groomed for higher office. The real lawyers do the actual legal work and all the DA and AG have to do is hold press conferences.

  139. @QCIC
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Will this energy be channeled constructively to repair and heal the USA? How can such a thing be accomplished?

    A lot of the serious problems in our country took decades to create. Is the American attention span long enough to achieve a correction?

    The border control and illegal immigrant issue has been a commonly recognized problem since the 1960's when this round started. What will it take to stop and then reverse a 65 year trend? The process is probably catastrophic for the American civilization but simultaneously has tens of millions of beneficiaries in the short run.

    Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown, @Jonathan Mason, @lctimeconstant

    Construct and heal what? We all gonna come together in leftist democracy and finally realize we want our children to be trans, starting at age 2? Then we wake to another realization that killing babies right out of the womb is ok too. And then ….

    Why can’t we be a threat to their democracy? Why can’t religious countries in the ME be a threat to their democracy? Why can’t the Vatican and the numerous Christian Denominations be a threat to their democracy? No ones talking authoritarian. Maybe tired of their democracy. Their flooding of our countries and demoralizing and strangling and killing our people. Growing up in Killingly must have a new meaning. I doubt the Pilgrims killed that many Indians or even enslaved this many people.

  140. @vinteuil
    @danand

    Wow. I like Tucker, but that took me by surprise.

    Replies: @BB753, @Pierre de Craon

    Except Blacks have a birth replacement rate, Whites do not. I see what Tucker did there.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @BB753

    Thankfully, Affican-“amerians” have a total fertility rate decidedly below replacement level in recent years:

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/226292/us-fertility-rates-by-race-and-ethnicity/

    The bigger demographic problems are white fertility rates that are FARTHER below replacement level, and sustained legal immigration from high-TFR Africa, from India / Pakistan/ Bangladesh, and less capable/assimilable mestizo and indio people from central/south American countries.

  141. @John Gruskos
    The Republican platform has two planks:
    1. Fight a war against Iran for the benefit of Israel.
    2. Eliminate the first amendment on campus for the benefit of Israel.

    Bill Ackman's Israel-First agenda can't generate any genuine enthusiasm.

    The revolutionary American nationalist energy of 2016 was completely and utterly absent.

    Replies: @Sgt Sternhammer, @Jack D, @Bragadocious, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Bill Jones

    The Republican platform has two planks:
    1. Fight a war against Iran for the benefit of Israel.
    2. Eliminate the first amendment on campus for the benefit of Israel.

    The same two planks as are part of the dimocrat platform and explain Biden’s and his handlers’ behaviors over the past ten months.

    OTOH, Trump/Vance are both on record promising to end the USA hegemon’s proxy war in the Ukraine, while all likely dimocrat candidates are on record promising to continue that war a outrance, i.e. to the point of a nuclear war in Europe.

    Pick your poison.

    • Agree: Mark G.
  142. @Mr. Anon
    @Stan Adams


    There was a lingering sense among many Democrats that Bernie had been robbed.
     
    And yet they all dutifully got behind corrupt, senile, influence-peddlin', plagiarizin' Joe.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    Quite a few Bernie Bros stayed home in 2016 – they couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Hillary and they refused to believe that Trump could win.

    It would stand to reason that, in 2020, many Democrats who couldn’t stand Biden turned out anyway to vote against hombre naranja malo.

    (Nobody here believes in that cockamamie story about a stolen election, right? Not even the Unziest Man of Unz would dare to impugn the integrity of the nice Black ladies who counted the vote in Philadelphia.)

  143. Answer to question two–he’s trying to channel McGovern

  144. Help me out Steve, or somebody, what is the Bond-Morris question?

  145. @Trinity
    Hulkster went back to the well once more, Mean Gene. Entertaining but age is creeping up on the big guy, his 24” pythons are sagging like Judge Jeanine’s pipe cleaners when she goes sleeveless on The Five. Someone talk to that woman, please.

    While the Hulkster “worked” the promo well, the cringey moments were aplenty last night. Skid Rock, shyster Dana White ( what’s up with the visibly shaking hands and paper, stage fright?) Most cringey goes to Eric Trump. Wonder if Eric wants to take back what he said about David Duke being shot when Trumpy Bear was running the first time.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Sorry, but the way you’re describing the final night of the convention with the speakers it sounds as though it could’ve passed for a bad late night informercial from 1995.

    All we needed was the late great Don LaPrie to make an unexpected appearance on the show, and we’d have been transported back to the ’90’s couch, ca.1AM in the morning.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi


    All we needed was the late great Don LaPrie [sic] to make an unexpected appearance on the show, and we’d have been transported back to the ’90’s couch, ca.1AM in the morning.
     
    In June 2011, Don Lapre was charged with 41 counts of conspiracy, mail fraud, wire fraud, and promotional money laundering related to his Internet businesses. He was arrested on June 24, 2011, for failing to appear in court to face these charges.

    He died on October 2, 2011, while in jail awaiting trial. The autopsy report stated that he died of blood loss after cutting his throat with a razor blade.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  146. Who here suspects the Microsoft/Crowdstrike fiasco was designed and timed to divert attention away from the RNC and Biden’s problems?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Ralph L

    No, according to what I've read it was a reputation-damaging honest coding error. Trying to find a good summary to link here.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

  147. I could only stomach the highlights.

    Seeing members of the White conservative spoiled brat class cheer as Hulk ripped off his shirt was a bit much….and probably the best part if you only tune in for trainwreck aspect. Where are the strippers and dancing elephants? Might as well turn it into a full on circus.

    Trump would look tougher if he didn’t overdo the bandage. It was clearly a ploy. Boxers get much worse ear cuts and they don’t wear a giant bandage.

    Reminds me of the spies like us scene

    But I will give Trump credit for milking the shooting to maximum effect. He’s a talented showman.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @John Johnson

    "Where are the strippers and dancing elephants? Might as well turn it into a full on circus."

    The stripper spoke on Monday Night. The elephant, as symbolized by the GOP, was out in full bloom all four nights. Showmanship, shmaltz, glitz, albeit with a infomercial feel to it.

    , @Colin Wright
    @John Johnson


    ...Where are the strippers and dancing elephants?
     
    That sounds alright. Maybe when J.D. Vance is running in 2028.

    ...I think elephants and dancing strippers might prove more practical, though.

    Replies: @vinteuil

  148. @AnotherDad
    @ScarletNumber


    LOL Maybe you should spend less time hoping and more time doing even a modicum of research. So lazy
     
    Yep. But less lazy than my norm. My walking time--when sunset hits, I can switch my walk onto the golf course. (Picked up four balls last night, but putting with my shoe is not particularly accurate.)

    Seriously, I rely on y'all, my fellow iSteve commenters, to bring me up to speed.

    I've vote for Trump a third time. Was thinking of slapping up my own sign "Trump: Because he pisses off all the right people!" But listening to Trump--or any of these guys--is just too depressing, as there's such a gap between their blather and a clear articulation of the existential crisis in the West and what needs to be done.

    Replies: @Jack D, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @danand, @John Johnson

    But listening to Trump–or any of these guys–is just too depressing, as there’s such a gap between their blather and a clear articulation of the existential crisis in the West and what needs to be done.

    Well according to Trump he had everything fixed in his first term.

    He even blamed Putin’s invasion on Biden.

    • LOL: Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  149. @Tiny Duck
    Absolutely embarrassing for the country. The Republican party has turned into a clown show. Cruelty mixed with a circus. Nothing but lies. Full of selfish small people. There is a reason the whole world is laughing at us.

    The Democrats will win the next election in a landslide. It won't even be close. Their policies are popular. You guys live in a bubble. You will shocked (again) this fall.

    Demographics are changing. whites will a minority everywhere. Men of Colour are impregnating (with consent) white girls. You cannot change that.

    Vance sold out his won family. He has no morals. His wife will divorce him.

    Trump is an evil traitorous convicted felon. He will be dead or in jail in a few month.

    We will defeat you guys just like we did in 1865, 1945, and 2024.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Ron Mexico, @Old Prude, @Anonymous, @Jack D, @Jus' Sayin'...

    TD:

    Glad you’re back. We’ve missed your lampoons of prog think. This was pretty good. Not up to your old standard but pretty good nonetheless. You even seem to have convinced some readers that you’re for real.

  150. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    No one is naming the Jew, therefore nothing serious or substantial will get done. As usual.

    Can't have a real country or a real politics, if you can't or won't identify its real mortal enemies.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @MGB, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @AnotherDad

    No one is naming the Jew, therefore nothing serious or substantial will get done. As usual.

    Can’t have a real country or a real politics, if you can’t or won’t identify its real mortal enemies.

    Disagree.

    I’m upfront that I think the minoritarian cancer is basically Jewish ideology, pushed and propagandized to ascendency by American Jews. And that the “scientists” pushing the whole anti-genetic, nurture-uber-alles, ideology** were/are Jews doing political “science” in the service of minoritarianism. (**Basically, that human group differences in intelligence and personality are the sole area in the whole reach of biology unaffected by genes.)

    But there’s no need politically to run around “naming the Jew”. No, you simply attack the bad behavior, bad policies, bad ideology.

    Same as with blacks and crime. You don’t “name the black”, you denounce crime, call for “law and order” and locking up criminals. If blacks start whining that denouncing crime is attacking blacks, or blacks are more likely to be locked up, you respond “Well then blacks should do better. Stop tolerating criminals in your communities—zero tolerance. Black men should work harder to keep their sons on the straight and narrow—out of gangs, off the criminal path. It’s your community, you need to fix it.”

    Likewise, you denounce the immigration and open border treason. If some Jews start pointing out that you’re naming mostly Jews—ex. Mayorkas, Garland, the “Biden Administration” traitors–and pipe up with their usual “anti-Semite!”, you respond the same way: “So you’re telling me Jews have a problem being loyal Americans? Putting the interests of their fellow Americans and our posterity first? Well then Jews should do better. Patriotic Jews should work on routing this virus of disloyalty out of their community. It’s not like there aren’t plenty of Jews—like Stephen Miller—who are patriotic and want to preserve America for Americans and our posterity. Jews should do better and fix it.” The media Jews, of course, will squeal like stuck pigs when you say “disloyal”. But while Americans are ho-hum philo-Semitic, if Jews starting broadcasting that Jews in fact do find pushing immigration rather than loyalty to the interests of Americans part of their “Jewish identity”, that will just cause normie Americans to go “hmm”. It’s not a winner for Jews.

    Same with anything else. You call for normality, decency, sanity, national loyalty and denounce the destructive people, pushing crime, immivasion, anti-whitism, trannies, anti-family, anti-natalism, cultural depravity etc. If someone wants to pop-up and say “but that’s who we are!”, you respond “Well then who you are sucks. Do better.”

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @AnotherDad

    "Same as with blacks and crime. You don’t “name the black”, you denounce crime, call for “law and order” and locking up criminals. If blacks start whining that denouncing crime is attacking blacks, or blacks are more likely to be locked up, you respond “Well then blacks should do better. Stop tolerating criminals in your communities—zero tolerance. Black men should work harder to keep their sons on the straight and narrow—out of gangs, off the criminal path. It’s your community, you need to fix it.”

    Bullshit.

    This whole personal responsibility schitck happened during the 80's and 90's, hell, Rush Limbaugh made an entire career riffing on this aspect of aspect of social problems. Well, 40 yrs on and we now have evidence it has failed.

    It hasn't worked because:

    1. Libs and blacks still turned around and screamed raycist raycist raycist!

    2. Personal Responsiblity a la "Just do better and try harder!" only works so far as long as those at the top aren't also evading personal responsibility. When they shipped jobs to Mexico, China, etc and people complained, the rejoinder was "ignore that and do better, try harder!" when they polluted the environment and rewrote laws to make it less worker friendly for the top 1% benefit, the rejoinder was "ignore that and do better, try harder!

    But eventually one can only do and try for so long, until the rug and the matt are pulled out from underneath, as well as the foundation is completely obliterated.

    Funny thing. Never saw Rush, Hannity, and other cultural conservatives lambast big business, top 1%, and all the GOP leaders.

    Hmm.

    Its almost like they were in the same boat and in bed with them all during this time.

    Double Hmm.

    Do better and try harder. The top 1% has totally ignored the first part of that sentence, but they definitely are trying harder---trying harder to screw the other 95% out of what little aspect of a middle class life remains. People such as Jeffrey Epstein were not a symptom but a feature of that lassiez faire era that thrived under the ol' "do better and try harder" and meanwhile not holding the top 1% accountable for any of their actions that diectly impacted the bottom 90%.

    Triple Hmm.

    "history will not be kind to Rush Limbaugh"--Andrew Anglin

    Andy spoke the truth on that one.

    Replies: @Getaclue, @OilcanFloyd

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @AnotherDad

    Wow... you would be like the World's Worst Oncologist.

    "You've got a Stage 4 cancer in your colon, which has spread to your liver. Our treatment plan is to try and reason with the tumors, and try to rationally persuade them to retreat to Stage 3 in your transverse colon."

    Yeah, that'll work OK.

    The whole trump card you're holding is that: Jews care about nothing, except the welfare of Jews. They would nuke this entire planet and murder everyone else, if they thought they could fly off safely to Zion on the Moon. Built of course by goyim first. Where there would finally be no Cossacks or Nazis, threatening special precious chosen Jews.

    But your political ace in the hole is....

    They really, really, REALLY hate being identified as Jews, because that blows their cover, and then they are seen as being worse than pointless to the societies they have infested, because JEWS! It's like roaches scurrying for cover when you turn on the kitchen light at 4 AM.

    The best thing you can do is shine a direct light on them, and name them and enumerate their endless Jewish crimes. Let the entire electorate really see Max Schreck, and what he really wants. Let them only vote, AFTER they've seen their enemy in his real costume.

    But your proposal is, Let's just continue to quarrel endlessly with Nosferatu.

    Sure that'll work.

    , @Colin Wright
    @AnotherDad


    '...But there’s no need politically to run around “naming the Jew”. No, you simply attack the bad behavior, bad policies, bad ideology...'
     
    But then you wind up with people like Ben Shapiro, or Jennifer Rubin, or the earlier Neo-Cons. They pretend to be on your side, and adopt your slogans -- and then turn you to serve their interests.

    And when push comes to shove, it's always Israel number one, and immigration can be a good thing, and what's wrong with transgender children? Their version of 'conservatism' boils down to supporting wars for Israel and lowering the capital gains tax.

    I say it's like the flooded basement. You're not going to get anywhere until you admit that the problem might be the that broken pipe gushing water right over there. It's right there. See it?

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    , @rebel yell
    @AnotherDad


    Same as with blacks and crime. You don’t “name the black”, you denounce crime, call for “law and order” and locking up criminals. If blacks start whining that denouncing crime is attacking blacks, or blacks are more likely to be locked up, you respond “Well then blacks should do better. Stop tolerating criminals in your communities—zero tolerance. Black men should work harder to keep their sons on the straight and narrow—out of gangs, off the criminal path. It’s your community, you need to fix it.”
     
    This won't work. The day is over when whites can tacitly understand that black dysfunction is "in their blood" but not talk about it directly and instead speak obliquely about fixing communities. The Left won't allow this - their response is that "systemic racism" is the cause and therefore bad whitey has to be rooted out once and for all. The Left has forced this conversation into the open and now the truth has to be said.
    Blacks will never accept that their genetics is causing their failure, because let's face it, this is really bad news for them. Whites and Asians can conceivably talk about this and even discuss reasonable eugenic improvements to help blacks and more importantly help the rest of us, such as sterilizing black criminals and welfare queens. But what an explosive public debate that will be.
    Like the compromise over slavery in the 1850's, or "don't ask don't tell," the compromise you are suggesting of somehow corralling blacks without explicitly confronting the biology problem cannot hold up.
    The humane solution is to face the biology problem squarely and talk about a better gene future for blacks. The inhumane solution is a big civil war with ethnic cleansing to remove blacks. The worst solution is to submit to DEI and slump toward the Zimbabwe outcome.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Colin Wright

    , @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    Sorry nope not good enough for the Men of Unz. Even if their strategy condemns them to hiding behind pseudonyms in their mom's basement, they are sticking to it!

  151. HA says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    @Reg Cæsar

    If this CrowdStrike is so critical, how come we’ve never heard of it before?

    We heard of it in 2016 when the DNC brought it in to figure out who hacked their server. Crowdstrike declared, "Russia! Russia! Russia!", as that was the thing to do at the time. Later, Crowdstrike admitted it had no evidence to support that.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @HA

    “We heard of it in 2016 when the DNC brought it in to figure out who hacked their server. Crowdstrike declared, “Russia! Russia! Russia!”, as that was the thing to do at the time. Later, Crowdstrike admitted it had no evidence to support that.”

    Do you have a source for that alleged backtracking admission? This is from Crowdstrike’s own website (as of 2000):

    Yes. CrowdStrike’s conclusion that Russia was behind the DNC hack is supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and also by independent Congressional reports. Most recently, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report in April 2020 that validated the previous conclusions of the Intelligence Community Assessment… all concluding that Russia was behind the DNC data breach.

    And this is from the Times of India published 8 hours ago:

    Political experts have said that Trump’s questioning of CrowdStrike’s findings [implicating Russia] were meant the undermine the established narrative of Russian interference, which had been supported by multiple US investigations…

    Trump’s assertions also ignited a series of conspiracy theories that suggested the DNC had somehow fabricated the hacking incident….These theories persisted despite CrowdStrike’s transparent methodology in handling the investigation, which involved creating forensic images of the DNC servers…a standard practice in cybersecurity investigations.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @HA

    I just pictured myself putting time and effort into arguing with you about CrowdStrike and the DNC servers. I saw myself:
    - looking up links and posting them here
    - waiting 8, 16 or 26 hours for my post to appear
    - replying your reply, ignoring all the ad hominems

    ... and then I decided not to.

    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @HA

    Granted, but Trump was essentially correct that Russia was NOT behind the whole "Russia hacked the voting machines and caused Hillary to lose the election."

    I mean, that is a f'ckery conspiracy to impeach a sitting president when there was no there there.

    Besides, like the US hasn't directly and indirectly interfere with other countries elections from time to time?

    Oh yeah. We have done that, actually.

    Let the nation without sin cast the first stone.

    Now lets take it a step further.

    The Nordstream pipeline. Are we expected to take the US's state dept and other official findings as gospel that...Russia itself blew up its own pipeline? Why would they do that when they built it?

    Who exactly blew up the Nordstream pipeline? Oh, a Ukrainian ten foot sailboat? Perhaps Pulitzer Prize winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh can still teach the clueless populace a thing or two regarding finding out what actually occurred.

    Replies: @HA, @Jack D

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @HA


    “We heard of it in 2016 when the DNC brought it in to figure out who hacked their server. Crowdstrike declared, “Russia! Russia! Russia!”, as that was the thing to do at the time. Later, Crowdstrike admitted it had no evidence to support that.”

    Do you have a source for that alleged backtracking admission? This is from Crowdstrike’s own website (as of 2000):

    ....

    And this is from the Times of India published 8 hours ago:
     
    And this is a report on testimony from CrowdStrike's president of services and chief security officer Shawn Henry before the US House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence in December 2017, admitting that CrowdStrike had absolutely no evidence that Russia was involved in the DNC mail hack. https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/crowdstrike-chief-admits-no-proof-that-russia-exfiltrated-dnc-emails.html.

    As Wikileaks insinuated, it was probably an inside job by Seth Rich, who paid for his "sin" a bit later https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/seth-rich-who-is-he-wikileaks-murder-hillary-clinton-conspiracy-explained-a7739606.html.

    Replies: @HA, @J.Ross, @Cagey Beast

    , @HA
    @HA

    I did find this article from "RealClearInvestigations", but that was published a month before the above CrowdStrike statement, which says to me that CrowdStrike is not admitting jack -- they still think the evidence supports a Russia link.

  152. @John Johnson
    I could only stomach the highlights.

    Seeing members of the White conservative spoiled brat class cheer as Hulk ripped off his shirt was a bit much....and probably the best part if you only tune in for trainwreck aspect. Where are the strippers and dancing elephants? Might as well turn it into a full on circus.

    Trump would look tougher if he didn't overdo the bandage. It was clearly a ploy. Boxers get much worse ear cuts and they don't wear a giant bandage.

    Reminds me of the spies like us scene

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaSUOFleNRU

    But I will give Trump credit for milking the shooting to maximum effect. He's a talented showman.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Colin Wright

    “Where are the strippers and dancing elephants? Might as well turn it into a full on circus.”

    The stripper spoke on Monday Night. The elephant, as symbolized by the GOP, was out in full bloom all four nights. Showmanship, shmaltz, glitz, albeit with a infomercial feel to it.

  153. @Gordo
    OT The rioting in Leeds was Roma gypsies backed up by (other) races from the Indian sub-continent.

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...

    The rioting in Leeds was Roma gypsies backed up by (other) races from the Indian sub-continent.

    Spot on! The current theory of Gypsy origins is that they are descended from low caste northern Indians, perhaps, Dalits, who migrated northwestward into Europe. Their low caste origins, if correct, certainly help explain their low IQ, i.e. stupidity, uncleanliness, and propensity towards theft, grifting and other low level criminal behavior.

    • Agree: Gordo
  154. @HA
    @Harry Baldwin

    "We heard of it in 2016 when the DNC brought it in to figure out who hacked their server. Crowdstrike declared, “Russia! Russia! Russia!”, as that was the thing to do at the time. Later, Crowdstrike admitted it had no evidence to support that."

    Do you have a source for that alleged backtracking admission? This is from Crowdstrike's own website (as of 2000):

    Yes. CrowdStrike’s conclusion that Russia was behind the DNC hack is supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and also by independent Congressional reports. Most recently, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report in April 2020 that validated the previous conclusions of the Intelligence Community Assessment... all concluding that Russia was behind the DNC data breach.
     

    And this is from the Times of India published 8 hours ago:

    Political experts have said that Trump's questioning of CrowdStrike's findings [implicating Russia] were meant the undermine the established narrative of Russian interference, which had been supported by multiple US investigations...

    Trump's assertions also ignited a series of conspiracy theories that suggested the DNC had somehow fabricated the hacking incident....These theories persisted despite CrowdStrike's transparent methodology in handling the investigation, which involved creating forensic images of the DNC servers...a standard practice in cybersecurity investigations.

     

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Jus' Sayin'..., @HA

    I just pictured myself putting time and effort into arguing with you about CrowdStrike and the DNC servers. I saw myself:
    – looking up links and posting them here
    – waiting 8, 16 or 26 hours for my post to appear
    – replying your reply, ignoring all the ad hominems

    … and then I decided not to.

    • Agree: Old Prude
  155. @HA
    @Harry Baldwin

    "We heard of it in 2016 when the DNC brought it in to figure out who hacked their server. Crowdstrike declared, “Russia! Russia! Russia!”, as that was the thing to do at the time. Later, Crowdstrike admitted it had no evidence to support that."

    Do you have a source for that alleged backtracking admission? This is from Crowdstrike's own website (as of 2000):

    Yes. CrowdStrike’s conclusion that Russia was behind the DNC hack is supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and also by independent Congressional reports. Most recently, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report in April 2020 that validated the previous conclusions of the Intelligence Community Assessment... all concluding that Russia was behind the DNC data breach.
     

    And this is from the Times of India published 8 hours ago:

    Political experts have said that Trump's questioning of CrowdStrike's findings [implicating Russia] were meant the undermine the established narrative of Russian interference, which had been supported by multiple US investigations...

    Trump's assertions also ignited a series of conspiracy theories that suggested the DNC had somehow fabricated the hacking incident....These theories persisted despite CrowdStrike's transparent methodology in handling the investigation, which involved creating forensic images of the DNC servers...a standard practice in cybersecurity investigations.

     

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Jus' Sayin'..., @HA

    Granted, but Trump was essentially correct that Russia was NOT behind the whole “Russia hacked the voting machines and caused Hillary to lose the election.”

    I mean, that is a f’ckery conspiracy to impeach a sitting president when there was no there there.

    Besides, like the US hasn’t directly and indirectly interfere with other countries elections from time to time?

    Oh yeah. We have done that, actually.

    Let the nation without sin cast the first stone.

    Now lets take it a step further.

    The Nordstream pipeline. Are we expected to take the US’s state dept and other official findings as gospel that…Russia itself blew up its own pipeline? Why would they do that when they built it?

    Who exactly blew up the Nordstream pipeline? Oh, a Ukrainian ten foot sailboat? Perhaps Pulitzer Prize winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh can still teach the clueless populace a thing or two regarding finding out what actually occurred.

    • Replies: @HA
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    "Trump was essentially correct that Russia was NOT behind the whole 'Russia hacked the voting machines and caused Hillary to lose the election.'”

    That's just more tendentious link-free assertions on your part and not relevant to the INCORRECT claim that CrowdStrike admitted it had no evidence of what they asserted. Same goes for smoke-screen tactics and tu quoque games with however much our own spies/hackers meddle with Russian politics, or NordStream, let alone Russia hacking the voting machines. Desperate much? You look like a scared squid frantically squirting ink over everything while swimming away.

    The old "yeah, but what about THIS?" approach to weaseling out of a failed line of "reasoning" is a tactic that is much beloved by all conspiracy theorists -- there's always another twist in their narrative that allows them to conveniently avoid admitting that yet another of their flimsy arguments has been shredded to pieces -- but it's not gonna impress anyone who has dealt with you lot before.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    , @Jack D
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi


    Besides, like the US hasn’t directly and indirectly interfere with other countries elections from time to time?
     
    If Russia is innocent then why are your bringing this up at all? The Russian line (which you echo faithfully) is that we dindu nuthin and anyway y'all do this stuff too. One or other. Either say you are innocent or say that you did it and everyone else does it too, but not both. The Russian method is to throw everything possible on the wall and see what sticks but all that this does is make them (and you) seem like inconsistent liars.

    Anyway, the Russians have now taken the approach that all "foreign interference" at home (e.g. having a free press or saying anything against Putin) is illegal or spying and will get you 16 years in prison so they are not in a good position to say that it's OK for them to interfere in US elections. Again, one or the other, either "foreign interference" is OK everywhere or it is not OK anywhere. If the US is doing this then condemn it but don't imitate it. "All the other kids are doing it" doesn't work as an excuse even when you are 9 years old.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  156. @AnotherDad
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    No one is naming the Jew, therefore nothing serious or substantial will get done. As usual.

    Can’t have a real country or a real politics, if you can’t or won’t identify its real mortal enemies.
     

    Disagree.

    I'm upfront that I think the minoritarian cancer is basically Jewish ideology, pushed and propagandized to ascendency by American Jews. And that the "scientists" pushing the whole anti-genetic, nurture-uber-alles, ideology** were/are Jews doing political "science" in the service of minoritarianism. (**Basically, that human group differences in intelligence and personality are the sole area in the whole reach of biology unaffected by genes.)


    But there's no need politically to run around "naming the Jew". No, you simply attack the bad behavior, bad policies, bad ideology.

    Same as with blacks and crime. You don't "name the black", you denounce crime, call for "law and order" and locking up criminals. If blacks start whining that denouncing crime is attacking blacks, or blacks are more likely to be locked up, you respond "Well then blacks should do better. Stop tolerating criminals in your communities—zero tolerance. Black men should work harder to keep their sons on the straight and narrow—out of gangs, off the criminal path. It's your community, you need to fix it."

    Likewise, you denounce the immigration and open border treason. If some Jews start pointing out that you're naming mostly Jews—ex. Mayorkas, Garland, the "Biden Administration" traitors--and pipe up with their usual "anti-Semite!", you respond the same way: "So you're telling me Jews have a problem being loyal Americans? Putting the interests of their fellow Americans and our posterity first? Well then Jews should do better. Patriotic Jews should work on routing this virus of disloyalty out of their community. It's not like there aren't plenty of Jews—like Stephen Miller—who are patriotic and want to preserve America for Americans and our posterity. Jews should do better and fix it." The media Jews, of course, will squeal like stuck pigs when you say "disloyal". But while Americans are ho-hum philo-Semitic, if Jews starting broadcasting that Jews in fact do find pushing immigration rather than loyalty to the interests of Americans part of their "Jewish identity", that will just cause normie Americans to go "hmm". It's not a winner for Jews.

    Same with anything else. You call for normality, decency, sanity, national loyalty and denounce the destructive people, pushing crime, immivasion, anti-whitism, trannies, anti-family, anti-natalism, cultural depravity etc. If someone wants to pop-up and say "but that's who we are!", you respond "Well then who you are sucks. Do better."

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Colin Wright, @rebel yell, @Jack D

    “Same as with blacks and crime. You don’t “name the black”, you denounce crime, call for “law and order” and locking up criminals. If blacks start whining that denouncing crime is attacking blacks, or blacks are more likely to be locked up, you respond “Well then blacks should do better. Stop tolerating criminals in your communities—zero tolerance. Black men should work harder to keep their sons on the straight and narrow—out of gangs, off the criminal path. It’s your community, you need to fix it.”

    Bullshit.

    This whole personal responsibility schitck happened during the 80’s and 90’s, hell, Rush Limbaugh made an entire career riffing on this aspect of aspect of social problems. Well, 40 yrs on and we now have evidence it has failed.

    It hasn’t worked because:

    1. Libs and blacks still turned around and screamed raycist raycist raycist!

    2. Personal Responsiblity a la “Just do better and try harder!” only works so far as long as those at the top aren’t also evading personal responsibility. When they shipped jobs to Mexico, China, etc and people complained, the rejoinder was “ignore that and do better, try harder!” when they polluted the environment and rewrote laws to make it less worker friendly for the top 1% benefit, the rejoinder was “ignore that and do better, try harder!

    But eventually one can only do and try for so long, until the rug and the matt are pulled out from underneath, as well as the foundation is completely obliterated.

    Funny thing. Never saw Rush, Hannity, and other cultural conservatives lambast big business, top 1%, and all the GOP leaders.

    Hmm.

    Its almost like they were in the same boat and in bed with them all during this time.

    Double Hmm.

    Do better and try harder. The top 1% has totally ignored the first part of that sentence, but they definitely are trying harder—trying harder to screw the other 95% out of what little aspect of a middle class life remains. People such as Jeffrey Epstein were not a symptom but a feature of that lassiez faire era that thrived under the ol’ “do better and try harder” and meanwhile not holding the top 1% accountable for any of their actions that diectly impacted the bottom 90%.

    Triple Hmm.

    “history will not be kind to Rush Limbaugh”–Andrew Anglin

    Andy spoke the truth on that one.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Getaclue
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Limbaugh is more loved than ever the Leftists who hate him hate the USA and that will never change! They're morons.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    , @OilcanFloyd
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi


    “history will not be kind to Rush Limbaugh”–Andrew Anglin
     
    Limbaugh was such a fraud, as is Hannity. God only knows what someone like Epstein had on him.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  157. @HA
    @Harry Baldwin

    "We heard of it in 2016 when the DNC brought it in to figure out who hacked their server. Crowdstrike declared, “Russia! Russia! Russia!”, as that was the thing to do at the time. Later, Crowdstrike admitted it had no evidence to support that."

    Do you have a source for that alleged backtracking admission? This is from Crowdstrike's own website (as of 2000):

    Yes. CrowdStrike’s conclusion that Russia was behind the DNC hack is supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and also by independent Congressional reports. Most recently, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report in April 2020 that validated the previous conclusions of the Intelligence Community Assessment... all concluding that Russia was behind the DNC data breach.
     

    And this is from the Times of India published 8 hours ago:

    Political experts have said that Trump's questioning of CrowdStrike's findings [implicating Russia] were meant the undermine the established narrative of Russian interference, which had been supported by multiple US investigations...

    Trump's assertions also ignited a series of conspiracy theories that suggested the DNC had somehow fabricated the hacking incident....These theories persisted despite CrowdStrike's transparent methodology in handling the investigation, which involved creating forensic images of the DNC servers...a standard practice in cybersecurity investigations.

     

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Jus' Sayin'..., @HA

    “We heard of it in 2016 when the DNC brought it in to figure out who hacked their server. Crowdstrike declared, “Russia! Russia! Russia!”, as that was the thing to do at the time. Later, Crowdstrike admitted it had no evidence to support that.”

    Do you have a source for that alleged backtracking admission? This is from Crowdstrike’s own website (as of 2000):

    ….

    And this is from the Times of India published 8 hours ago:

    And this is a report on testimony from CrowdStrike’s president of services and chief security officer Shawn Henry before the US House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence in December 2017, admitting that CrowdStrike had absolutely no evidence that Russia was involved in the DNC mail hack. https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/crowdstrike-chief-admits-no-proof-that-russia-exfiltrated-dnc-emails.html.

    As Wikileaks insinuated, it was probably an inside job by Seth Rich, who paid for his “sin” a bit later https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/seth-rich-who-is-he-wikileaks-murder-hillary-clinton-conspiracy-explained-a7739606.html.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
    • Replies: @HA
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    I'll start with CageyBeast:

    "...waiting 8, 16 or 26 hours for my post to appear..."

    If it's any consolation, your craven link-free admission that you're not gonna even bother answering got approved quick enough, as did the other followups. You know, maybe if you actually bothered to put some effort into making a post with links and evidence, you'd get approved faster, but I guess we'll never know, eh?

    "And this is a report on testimony from CrowdStrike’s president of services..."

    Now, on to Jus' Saying, i.e. the reply of someone who did actually bother to provide to link -- i.e. not as lame as what CageyBeast put together -- BUT APPARENTLY DIDN'T READ TO THE END OF HIS OWN LINK. Rookie mistake, that, though again, it shows at least some effort. I'll do everyone the favor of posting that last bit here:


    Since publication, CrowdStrike has responded and issued a statement for inclusion in this article.

    CrowdStrike Statement of Response:

    The suggestion that CrowdStrike ‘had no proof’ of the data being exfiltrated is INCORRECT. [emphasis added] Shawn Henry clearly said in his testimony that CrowdStrike HAD indicators of exfiltration ( page 32 of the testimony) and circumstantial evidence (page 75) that indicated the data had been exfiltrated. Also, please note that the Senate Intelligence Committee in April 2020 issued a report (https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume4.pdf/) validating the previous conclusions of the Intelligence community that Russia was behind the DNC data breach.
     

    I.e., the statement that CrowdStrike had backtracked or admitted it had no evidence involves tendentious omissions and twisting. In that sense, it's like your own comment, which conspicuously omits CrowdStrike's response/rebuttal.

    CrowdStrike therefore still maintains that they do have proof (and again, my first link post-dates the above article, and as far as I can tell, that is their official position to this day). As to whatever Wikileaks "insinuates", that's another rabbit hole altogether. If that's going to sway you, you might as well listen to what OJ "insinuates" about the real killers of Nicole Brown Simpson, since our system of "justice" declared he himself was "not guilty" of the deed.

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...

    , @J.Ross
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Crowdstrike in the news again because they royally screwed up some corporate code; an anon did a pretty good job of summarizing these disgusting incompetant activists and their election interference:
    https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/474943816

    , @Cagey Beast
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    There's also the information in this tweet thread:
    https://twitter.com/FamilyManAndrew/status/1757070576949068271

    ... which is captured here as well:
    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1757070576949068271.html

  158. @HA
    @Harry Baldwin

    "We heard of it in 2016 when the DNC brought it in to figure out who hacked their server. Crowdstrike declared, “Russia! Russia! Russia!”, as that was the thing to do at the time. Later, Crowdstrike admitted it had no evidence to support that."

    Do you have a source for that alleged backtracking admission? This is from Crowdstrike's own website (as of 2000):

    Yes. CrowdStrike’s conclusion that Russia was behind the DNC hack is supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and also by independent Congressional reports. Most recently, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report in April 2020 that validated the previous conclusions of the Intelligence Community Assessment... all concluding that Russia was behind the DNC data breach.
     

    And this is from the Times of India published 8 hours ago:

    Political experts have said that Trump's questioning of CrowdStrike's findings [implicating Russia] were meant the undermine the established narrative of Russian interference, which had been supported by multiple US investigations...

    Trump's assertions also ignited a series of conspiracy theories that suggested the DNC had somehow fabricated the hacking incident....These theories persisted despite CrowdStrike's transparent methodology in handling the investigation, which involved creating forensic images of the DNC servers...a standard practice in cybersecurity investigations.

     

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Jus' Sayin'..., @HA

    I did find this article from “RealClearInvestigations”, but that was published a month before the above CrowdStrike statement, which says to me that CrowdStrike is not admitting jack — they still think the evidence supports a Russia link.

  159. US Federal Appeals Court rules for young adults in public conceal carry fight.

  160. @Harry Baldwin
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    I enjoyed Bob Newhart's comedy but I can't forget Don Rickles introducing him as "One of the great stammering idiots of our time."

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Rapparee

    Don Rickles was perhaps Newhart’s best friend; their families used to vacation together. Their styles of comedy were so radically different that they never felt threatening to each other’s careers, perhaps. I’m glad I got to see Newhart live twice in his dotage.

    (Since this thread started more-or-less on the subject of Donald Trump, I’ll add that Trump’s crowd work at his rallies has always displayed echoes of Don Rickles’ act- he’s not an articulate orator or an inspiring speechmaker, but Trump is a first-rate spontaneous insult comic. His always keeping his rallies in stitches explains a lot about his improbable popularity).

  161. Steve,
    You should vacate Unz, this site is getting too weird, too stupid.

    • Disagree: Gordo
    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Currahee

    Steve’s also on Substack now. Search for “Steve Sailer net.”

    I think you have to pay though. I paid. Maybe not just to read.

    The commenters are much less weird (I’m not saying all Unz commenters are weird but many are. Almost all at other Unz columnists attract strange people.)

    , @QCIC
    @Currahee

    Get real.

    This site is for people who read Ron Unz's well researched articles. The high value of Unz's archive of censored references is amazing and far outweighs the debits due to any nuisance commenters. The natural purpose of these commenters, some of which are paid trolls, is to train people in basic intellectual hygiene.

    Steve occasionally writes some great stuff on HBD, but generally seems to write for people who have retired their minds or maybe never learned how to think critically.

    The other authors at Unz are an eclectic mix. Call it a cross-fit workout for the mind!

  162. @John Johnson
    I could only stomach the highlights.

    Seeing members of the White conservative spoiled brat class cheer as Hulk ripped off his shirt was a bit much....and probably the best part if you only tune in for trainwreck aspect. Where are the strippers and dancing elephants? Might as well turn it into a full on circus.

    Trump would look tougher if he didn't overdo the bandage. It was clearly a ploy. Boxers get much worse ear cuts and they don't wear a giant bandage.

    Reminds me of the spies like us scene

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaSUOFleNRU

    But I will give Trump credit for milking the shooting to maximum effect. He's a talented showman.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Colin Wright

    …Where are the strippers and dancing elephants?

    That sounds alright. Maybe when J.D. Vance is running in 2028.

    …I think elephants and dancing strippers might prove more practical, though.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    @Colin Wright

    I tend to doubt that JD Vance, running for President in 2028, will ask any professional wrestlers to speak on his behalf - let alone elephants & dancing strippers.

  163. • Replies: @Ralph L
    @Joe Stalin

    That bird's eye view shows what I suspected: if the podium had a been a few feet back or the upper bleachers forward, he wouldn't have had a clear shot at all--or, at best, without being near the edge of the roof and easily visible from the ground.

  164. @Alan Mercer
    @Stan Adams


    Sanders was leading in most of the Super Tuesday primaries. But then several candidates suddenly dropped out and endorsed Biden.
     
    Thanks for bringing this up. I was amazed at the fact that those candidates who might have split the moderate vote with Biden - namely, Buttigieg and Klobuchar - elected to drop out just BEFORE Super Tueday, whereas Warren, who split the left vote with Sanders, dropped out just AFTER Super Tuesday. I couldn't believe how little attention this curious coincidence got. I knew at that point Biden would be the nominee.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    “…I couldn’t believe how little attention this curious coincidence got. ..”

    I think it has a simple explanation. His colleagues don’t like him much.

  165. Vance forever?

    There is no limit* on how many times one can serve as Vice President. George Clinton and John Calhoun each served under more than one President. One could imagine a scenario in which a party keeps switching Presidents while retaining the same VP, who’d have the real power. Some recent VPs almost seem designed to fit that bill– Rockefeller, Bush I, Cheney, Biden, Pence. However, the Deep State apparently prefers someone less obvious than a VP to fill that role. Certainly Kamala is no Cheney.

    *Obama, Dubya, and that other Clinton cannot serve as Vice President anymore, as they are now ineligible for the Presidency.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Reg Cæsar

    The VP position is largely symbolic and is often selected to assuage a specific group of voters but there are definitely cases where it matters:

    1. Where there is a good chance of the VP replacing the president (Biden/Harris)

    2. Where the VP represents the voice of an entrenched group or lobby (Trump/Vance)

    3. Where the VP is the real president (Bush/Cheney)

    4. Where the VP uses his position to get closer to the presidency (Kennedy/LBJ)

    I think Biden is most likely out but what to do about Harris is the real problem.

    , @Art Deco
    @Reg Cæsar

    Some recent VPs almost seem designed to fit that bill– Rockefeller, Bush I, Cheney, Biden, Pence
    ==
    They almost seem that way to someone quite disoriented.

    , @Gandydancer
    @Reg Cæsar


    Obama, Dubya, and that other Clinton cannot serve as Vice President anymore, as they are now ineligible for the Presidency.
     
    Who says? The term limit for the US Presidency was established by the 22nd Amendment which, in relevant part, says only the following:

    No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.
     
    I'm not seeing any limit on the number of times a person can become President so long as his succession is not by way of election to THAT office.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  166. @MGB
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Netanyahu will be speaking before Congress next week, so give a listen.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Netanyahu will be speaking before Congress next week, so give a listen.

    Will their equivalent of the Secret Service be there to protect him? Are there any Arabs on Capitol security duty who might apply for the 72 virgins provision?

  167. @vinteuil
    @danand

    Wow. I like Tucker, but that took me by surprise.

    Replies: @BB753, @Pierre de Craon

    Unfortunately, it didn’t take me by surprise that Carlson won’t explicitly defend white people.

    Anyone who refers to the Great Replacement—whether in so many words or euphemistically, whether for it or against it—knows that the people the (((Deep State))) is ridding the United States of are white people, the overwhelming mass of whom are Christian white people. The same thing is going on, of course, in Europe and Oceania.

    The Australian girl posing the proudly anti-white pseudo-question is indeed a truly despicable human being, in no small part because her phony question embodies a quantum of moral posturing that any reader of the New Testament would be inclined to recognize as pharisaical. Carlson is no better than she is, morally speaking. He is certainly glibber than she is, but nothing on earth is going to get him to forthrightly declare that his own people, the white minority of earth’s human beings, have been slandered as uniquely murderous, exploitative, and enslaving and have been targeted for destruction by a Tribe that has cultivated self-regard, hypocrisy, and deceit to unimagined heights. Such a declaration would take courage, and that is something he can fake but doesn’t actually possess.

  168. Completely OT, Shiloh Pitt is changing her name. When you consider the Spoonerism, it’s surprising this wasn’t done long ago.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • LOL: MEH 0910, AceDeuce
  169. Meme magic is back.

    • Thanks: MEH 0910
  170. Anon[329] • Disclaimer says:

    Yeah, Biden’s not leaving. This is a guy who ran for president unsuccessfully several times, and now that he’s won the lottery prize, they’re asking him to get rid of it. There’s no way in heck he’s going to do that. The Democrats don’t understand his mentality. Biden really, really, wants to be the most important guy in the room.

    Biden’s father lost his money and they were poor for a while, which must have absolutely humiliated Biden. Biden’s first wife essentially committed suicide and tried to take her kids with her. Biden’s eldest son died prematurely. Biden’s younger son is a disgrace.

    Winning the presidency and clinging to it makes Biden feel like he’s a winner who is important in life, and not someone whose life is actually a trainwreck, a disastrous, lower-class soap opera. Biden is a chucklehead who is an expert at denying and ignoring inconvenient facts, but what’s really pathetic is that even his presidency is a trainwreck that he’s in denial about.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Anon

    "The Democrats don’t understand his mentality."

    Uh, no, the Dems really DO understand his mentality--it's declining and that quite rapidly. And he committed the cardinal sin of making it too public for the whole world to see. Can anyone imagine him next month having to speak for about an hr LIVE and UNCENSORED? To have to read from the teleprompter LIVE before the entire world? If the Dems were hunky dory okay with that, then why are they trying to attempt a palace coup by replacing him at the convention?

    Oh yeah.

    "Biden really, really, wants to be the most important guy in the room."

    And last he could remember, he was. What makes anyone think that he consciously can still remember that he's currently the president? Dementia is a legitimate real disease.

    The party is working overtime to escort him off the stage, out of the room.

    Nothing to see here, folks!

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    , @Frau Katze
    @Anon


    Biden’s first wife essentially committed suicide and tried to take her kids with her.
     
    Biden’s first wife, driving with her children Beau, Hunter and a baby girl, turned out onto a highway and was hit by a truck. December 1972.

    The truck driver was unhurt and found to be not at fault. The wife and daughter were killed. You can find a picture of the wrecked car by searching for “Biden wife car accident” and selecting Images.

    The car is pretty wrecked. There is no indication that she was suicidal. I’ve never heard that.

    However Biden continued to lie and say the truck driver had been drinking (untrue).

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    , @QCIC
    @Anon

    Biden has no agency and does nothing under his own power. His disturbing and pitiful public appearances are the best case.

    If he doesn't behave they will take his Ensure away. Sad but true, just deal with it. He is a nasty, crooked old man who is reaching the end of the line. What a creep.

    , @Moshe Def
    @Anon

    He agreed to drop out 4 days ago, but forgot the next morning.

    , @Jack D
    @Anon


    Biden’s first wife essentially committed suicide and tried to take her kids with her.
     
    Biden slanders the truck driver by saying that he was at fault when he wasn't. It does no good to slander Biden back by saying that his wife committed suicide (in some versions because he was having affairs). There is no proof for this either.

    By all accounts it was a tragic accident like many road accidents. His wife was the "at fault" party (unlike what Biden says) but there is zero proof that she intentionally caused the accident. The truck was going down the highway at full speed and had the right of way at an intersection and she was at a stop sign and pulled out in front of him and was T-boned and hit hard with no time for the truck driver to stop in time. Perhaps one of the kids was being annoying or doing something dangerous and she was distracted by that (not to blame the kids who were babies) . Perhaps she didn't see the truck for some reason or misjudged the distance. T-bone accidents happen all the time and they are not usually suicide. This is why 2 way stop signs have been replaced either by traffic lights or by 4 way stops in many places.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @J.Ross

    , @Art Deco
    @Anon

    Biden’s father lost his money and they were poor for a while, which must have absolutely humiliated Biden.
    ==
    He didn't. His father was on the patronage of some flush cousins who were government contractors. The cousins' situation imploded when they were sued and prosecuted for bilking. All this happened when Biden was too young to remember anything. Biden pere was a salesman his whole life, although he had for a time other business interests. Granddaddy Biden was an office manager employed by Amoco.
    ==
    Biden’s first wife essentially committed suicide and tried to take her kids with her
    ==
    She ran a stop sign and was t-boned by an oncoming truck.

    Replies: @Jack D

  171. @Linus
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    That and the head tat whore made me wonder what exactly we are conserving.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Yngvar, @Gandydancer

    That and the head tat whore made me wonder what exactly we are conserving.

    Maybe the freedom to live as one please and be left in peace?

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Yngvar

    "Maybe the freedom to live as one please and be left in peace?"

    And we had to have a forehead tatted OnlyFans hoe whose claim to fame is that she ate Kanye's bootyhole deliver this message? Couldn't find someone, oh....maybe a tad more qualified than a high school dropout? Also, people who want to be left in peace don't promote themselves on social media 365-24-7. They tend to keep a low profile.

    Like, that was the best that the GOP could find to deliver that message? A cast member from the film Idiocracy?

    Seriously?

  172. @Reg Cæsar
    Vance forever?

    There is no limit* on how many times one can serve as Vice President. George Clinton and John Calhoun each served under more than one President. One could imagine a scenario in which a party keeps switching Presidents while retaining the same VP, who'd have the real power. Some recent VPs almost seem designed to fit that bill-- Rockefeller, Bush I, Cheney, Biden, Pence. However, the Deep State apparently prefers someone less obvious than a VP to fill that role. Certainly Kamala is no Cheney.

    *Obama, Dubya, and that other Clinton cannot serve as Vice President anymore, as they are now ineligible for the Presidency.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Art Deco, @Gandydancer

    The VP position is largely symbolic and is often selected to assuage a specific group of voters but there are definitely cases where it matters:

    1. Where there is a good chance of the VP replacing the president (Biden/Harris)

    2. Where the VP represents the voice of an entrenched group or lobby (Trump/Vance)

    3. Where the VP is the real president (Bush/Cheney)

    4. Where the VP uses his position to get closer to the presidency (Kennedy/LBJ)

    I think Biden is most likely out but what to do about Harris is the real problem.

  173. Anonymous[250] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    @epebble


    However, the game may be changing …

    People Close to Biden Say He Appears to Accept He May Have to Leave the Race
     
    I really don't see how it helps.

    The Democrats needed to get old Joe to formally bow out at least a year ago, so they could have an open cycle of candidates. Really, it should never have even gotten that far. That should have been baked in in 2020. Joe saying he was a one term "Return to Normalcy" candidate should have been a condition of supporting his run, with everyone saying that it is unacceptable to run an 80+ candidate.

    Now if Joe drops out they have to either run Kamala or spurn her--a black!, a woman!, a black woman!!! In the old 20th century Democratic party you could have personal considerations--competency, character, demeanor, electability--bump someone aside. But you're going to give a "black woman" the bum's rush?

    The only upside I see for them is that they'd probably get the Harris debacle over with. She'd lose, leaving 2028 wide open. But they can get that with Biden with less damage. And if somehow or another she actually won ... she would not only take up 2028, but stink up the Democrat's brand for a decade or more.

    Replies: @Stan Adams, @anonymous, @Almost Missouri, @Jack D, @Colin Wright, @Anonymous

    This is some kind of mass delusion, where you have an election stolen from you, the people who stole it have total power for 4 years, then for some reason they let you win the next time.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    It's not one group of people. Consider the one guy in the Mel Gibson movie Edge of Darkness, the one who listens and then makes a decision. It's not some bugaboo man with horns growing put of his head, having infinite power, randomly. Various people are given a shot by a controlling organ. They succeed or fail, because they don't have infinite power. If they keep failing, do you think they will stay? So the Obamist-Neocon coalition successfully got permission to "fortify" the election because of several factors, the most important of which being they thought that they would succeed in their goals. Have they? Sh#t's on fire, yo. Will they try to cheat again? Sure, but they don't have the situation they had last time, they won't be allowed to "fortify" the election, and they don't have the lockdown as an excuse to literally throw electoral procedure out the window.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

  174. @anonymous
    @Mark G.

    Very hard to imagine fighting Iran, Russia, and China at the same time. It's setting the military up for failure.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon, @Jonathan Mason

    Very hard to imagine fighting Iran, Russia, and China at the same time. It’s setting the military up for failure.

    It occurs to me that the gulf between the actual capabilities of our military and our expectations of it is becoming perilously wide. In other words, we’re cruisin’ for a bruisin.’

    …and I doubt if we’ll react constructively. Prussia after Jena and Auerstedt, that won’t be us.

  175. @jb
    @jb

    (Oops. Kid Rock, not Chris. Gonna slap myself for that! :-) )

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    It’s around 8PM, maybe you should be getting to bed.

  176. Anonymous[211] • Disclaimer says:

    Hulk – 10/10

    Dana White – 10/10

    I’m not sure which I liked better to be honest. Possibly Dana. It was perfect, and made me proud to be a UFC fan (according to the graph, we average centrist and don’t turn out to elections).

    Tucker – 9/10 (He’s done 11/10 stuff elsewhere, maybe I’m comparing this to his other performances rather than objectively what he gave here.)

    Trump – 10/10 for the assassination attempt recounting, 7.5/10 for the content, 10/10 for Constitution/Stamina for a 78yo. Man, when they did the D&D dice rolls for him, he knocked it out of the park. He’s got to be a natural say, 12-14 in strength based on size alone. Dex would be up there – Trump is the best presidential golfer Jack Nicklaus has played with. No doubt his Intelligence is very high – to get where he’s gotten and outwit Sacha Baron Cohen is no mean feat. His Wisdom is mostly on the mark. Avoiding WW3, stopping the immivasion, these are the big ticket correct things.

    Is he the greatest administrator since Eisenhower? No, but I think Ike had a (much) more aligned bureaucracy to work with. The main tools of cultural propagation – media, social media, education system – were and still are against him. The controllers of these, the Establishment, certainly want him not to be in a position of power, “6 ways to Sunday”, i.e. by any means necessary. More so than in 2016 or 2020. *

    And his luck modifier is off the charts with resistance to critical hits.

    I do think it was a bit of a wasted opportunity to present a leaner, stripped down message of what he brings to America as president, to at least captivate attention instead of 70mins of waffle on top of the 20min of what everyone was wanting to hear.

    That slide showing the illegal immigration sure is telling… it looked like it took several years for Trump to make inroads on it, and then Biden truly opened the floodgates.

    [MORE]

    * I get the feeling that the elite of Jack D’s co-ethnics at least as pertains to the DNC want Trump dead rather than in office. Alex Soros’s cryptic 47 with the bullet hole tweet, Chuck Schumer’s comments, etc. In reality the USSS allowed this to happen, and it went higher up.

    I am not sure whether the Israeli Jew vs American Jew RNC vs DNC dichotomy is a real thing or not. Certainly most Jews still vote Democrat. But let’s be evidenced based.

    https://www.aei.org/society-and-culture/the-politics-of-jews-in-2024/

    It seems that:
    -American Jews are firmly divided into Democrats (68%) and Republicans (31%), with no independents (which used to be 27%).
    -American Jews were somewhat less enthused by either candidate, with Biden (61%) and Trump (23%), but generally supportive.

    I kind of get the idea that the Israel/Hamas situation may have changed things up there, but not 100% sure. It is interesting that almost all Jews are both sad and angry about the situation. I wonder if it is causing some Jews to reflect on the wisdom of whether it’s really a good idea to bring in numerous people who will ultimately come to control countries you have a stronghold in, and dislike you.

    Low birthrates and outmarriage among Jews as well as Europeans are another consequence of the social engineering that would call into question whether more cooperative approach would work out better.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/2024/03/21/majority-in-u-s-say-israel-has-valid-reasons-for-fighting-fewer-say-the-same-about-hamas/

    Now, I am under no illusion that the strong influence/control of Western countries especially the USA is ever going to change. It has been this way since WW1, WW2, through JFK, 9/11/2001, 2020 and 2024. So a hundred years. It is what it is.

    I would like the use of that power to change in a way that is more helpful, less harmful, to European peoples in a way that conserves their history, who they are, their happiness, their agency, etc. It does seem like we are being singled out in a way that other peoples haven’t, except perhaps the Palestinians. I don’t think I’m alone in thinking this.

    And also the world – lowering the risk of WW3. I feel that even though Putin is half Jewish and not a Nazi, Jews would like Russia weakened and then brought in under their control like the rest of the West. I think – can’t you be content with what you have already accomplished? Are you really likely to gain control of that, and achieve permanent control of that, or China for that matter? Is it worth the risk? Better not to push it.

    I feel like this is perhaps foolish, with the “scorpion and the frog” fable at the forefront of my mind, but wondering if it’s more foolish not to try.

    You have the most power, or at least, a conduit to it. So why not go to you, rather than attempt to fight directly with you, to change things. Question the assumptions.

    It seems like a key concern, if not the key concern, is prevention of pogroms, aka safety of Jewish people. And entrenchment of the power structure. Implicit in that is a thought that very few people know that it exists, a kind of security through obscurity.

    It seems as technology improves, it becomes harder to obfuscate. There are too many examples.

    But if we can come at it from the perspective of – yes, a lot of shady stuff has occurred, probably all of it, and no, despite all that, we don’t want to initiate pogroms, deportations, disempower you, etc. But please stop worrying about that and retaining/progressing policy to weaken and destroy us further.

    Am I out of my mind to consider this line of thought? I don’t know what kind of influence Jack D has within Jewry (or maybe some other Jew), but I just think this might be a better way to approach it. Maybe that’s what Trump is doing with Stephen Miller, Kushner, after the banishment of Bannon and others?

    It does seem like there may have been some progress along this line in recent years with there being a growing number of independents now sympathetic to Republicans since Trump came on the scene in 2016, and have experienced the Biden years.

  177. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Mr. Anon

    "He [Vance] said it was more than “just an idea”. But still, that’s better than I’ve heard from any other American politician. It was novel that he actually stated what is obviously true that America is a people and a nation."

    Actually at this point, for practical/satirical purposes, I'd prefer it if we really did advertise that America was "just an idea" and not a real place that you could sneak into and loot.

    We could say to immigrants, "America is really just an idea; so, we are going to print out the idea, and fax or mail it to you, and then you can stay at home and implement the idea, at home in the comfort of your native toilet bowl. No need to come here! Besides, there's no place to actually come to; we're *just* an idea!"

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @RadicalCenter

    Damn, that was a really good point. Insightful too. Probably one of the best of this entire post.

  178. @Anon
    Yeah, Biden's not leaving. This is a guy who ran for president unsuccessfully several times, and now that he's won the lottery prize, they're asking him to get rid of it. There's no way in heck he's going to do that. The Democrats don't understand his mentality. Biden really, really, wants to be the most important guy in the room.

    Biden's father lost his money and they were poor for a while, which must have absolutely humiliated Biden. Biden's first wife essentially committed suicide and tried to take her kids with her. Biden's eldest son died prematurely. Biden's younger son is a disgrace.

    Winning the presidency and clinging to it makes Biden feel like he's a winner who is important in life, and not someone whose life is actually a trainwreck, a disastrous, lower-class soap opera. Biden is a chucklehead who is an expert at denying and ignoring inconvenient facts, but what's really pathetic is that even his presidency is a trainwreck that he's in denial about.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Frau Katze, @QCIC, @Moshe Def, @Jack D, @Art Deco

    “The Democrats don’t understand his mentality.”

    Uh, no, the Dems really DO understand his mentality–it’s declining and that quite rapidly. And he committed the cardinal sin of making it too public for the whole world to see. Can anyone imagine him next month having to speak for about an hr LIVE and UNCENSORED? To have to read from the teleprompter LIVE before the entire world? If the Dems were hunky dory okay with that, then why are they trying to attempt a palace coup by replacing him at the convention?

    Oh yeah.

    “Biden really, really, wants to be the most important guy in the room.”

    And last he could remember, he was. What makes anyone think that he consciously can still remember that he’s currently the president? Dementia is a legitimate real disease.

    The party is working overtime to escort him off the stage, out of the room.

    Nothing to see here, folks!

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    "And last he could remember, he was. What makes anyone think that he consciously can still remember that he’s currently the president? Dementia is a legitimate real disease."

    Dementia is a real disease but most forms are progressive. The impairment starts out minor, barely noticeable, but keeps getting worse and worse. Biden doesn't appear that far gone, that he doesn't know he is President, yet. Maybe in a couple of years. Another thing about dementia is that patients often are in denial about their condition.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  179. @Currahee
    Steve,
    You should vacate Unz, this site is getting too weird, too stupid.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @QCIC

    Steve’s also on Substack now. Search for “Steve Sailer net.”

    I think you have to pay though. I paid. Maybe not just to read.

    The commenters are much less weird (I’m not saying all Unz commenters are weird but many are. Almost all at other Unz columnists attract strange people.)

  180. @Joe Stalin
    DM has an interesting article today on the fast ID of the Trump shooter.

    How the FBI identified Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks within hours - and how they could do the same for YOU

    The gunman, 'loner' Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20, was not carrying an ID, had no criminal record, nearly zero digital footprint and no friends, forcing the FBI to resort to DNA analysis to identity him.

    As Kevin Rojek, the special agent-in-charge (SAIC) for the FBI's Pittsburgh field office, told reporters just hours after the shooting on Saturday, 'We're trying to run his DNA and get biometric confirmation.'

    While the FBI declined to answer DailyMail.com's requests for details on how they did this DNA analysis, experts say it has often included scouring consumer genealogy databases like Ancestory.com and 23andMe — which store tens of millions of Americans' biometric data each.

    One parallel effort conducted by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) 'completed an urgent trace' that ultimately led to the 'business records from a closed gun dealer,' according to an ATF statement.

    That effort, a frantic, manual search through the closed gun shop's paper records, helped trace the rifle to the Crooks' father, according to a report by CNN.

    'Results were provided to the FBI and Secret Service in less than 30 minutes that helped identify the shooter,' ATF reported a day after the FBI's DNA announcement.

    [LOL. Paper records? ]

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13636701/DNA-database-Trump-shooter-Thomas-Matthew-Crooks-FBI.html
     

    Replies: @QCIC, @Jack D

    Did he have a driver’s license? If so, tentative facial recognition in short order.

    Also, the kid was in a BlackRock video. AI should pick that up quickly as well.

  181. @Anon
    Yeah, Biden's not leaving. This is a guy who ran for president unsuccessfully several times, and now that he's won the lottery prize, they're asking him to get rid of it. There's no way in heck he's going to do that. The Democrats don't understand his mentality. Biden really, really, wants to be the most important guy in the room.

    Biden's father lost his money and they were poor for a while, which must have absolutely humiliated Biden. Biden's first wife essentially committed suicide and tried to take her kids with her. Biden's eldest son died prematurely. Biden's younger son is a disgrace.

    Winning the presidency and clinging to it makes Biden feel like he's a winner who is important in life, and not someone whose life is actually a trainwreck, a disastrous, lower-class soap opera. Biden is a chucklehead who is an expert at denying and ignoring inconvenient facts, but what's really pathetic is that even his presidency is a trainwreck that he's in denial about.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Frau Katze, @QCIC, @Moshe Def, @Jack D, @Art Deco

    Biden’s first wife essentially committed suicide and tried to take her kids with her.

    Biden’s first wife, driving with her children Beau, Hunter and a baby girl, turned out onto a highway and was hit by a truck. December 1972.

    The truck driver was unhurt and found to be not at fault. The wife and daughter were killed. You can find a picture of the wrecked car by searching for “Biden wife car accident” and selecting Images.

    The car is pretty wrecked. There is no indication that she was suicidal. I’ve never heard that.

    However Biden continued to lie and say the truck driver had been drinking (untrue).

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Frau Katze

    However Biden continued to lie and say the truck driver had been drinking (untrue).

    Biden's whole identity is constructed of lies. Some harmless, daffy ones like Corn Pop and some vicious, unconscionable ones like the one blaming the truck driver. The truck driver has to live with his involvement in this accident, and though he was innocent it must be an awful thing to bear, and on top of that he has to bear being repeatedly slandered by a pathological liar with a high public profile.

  182. @Yngvar
    @Linus


    That and the head tat whore made me wonder what exactly we are conserving.
     
    Maybe the freedom to live as one please and be left in peace?

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    “Maybe the freedom to live as one please and be left in peace?”

    And we had to have a forehead tatted OnlyFans hoe whose claim to fame is that she ate Kanye’s bootyhole deliver this message? Couldn’t find someone, oh….maybe a tad more qualified than a high school dropout? Also, people who want to be left in peace don’t promote themselves on social media 365-24-7. They tend to keep a low profile.

    Like, that was the best that the GOP could find to deliver that message? A cast member from the film Idiocracy?

    Seriously?

    • Agree: Old Prude
  183. @Currahee
    Steve,
    You should vacate Unz, this site is getting too weird, too stupid.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @QCIC

    Get real.

    This site is for people who read Ron Unz’s well researched articles. The high value of Unz’s archive of censored references is amazing and far outweighs the debits due to any nuisance commenters. The natural purpose of these commenters, some of which are paid trolls, is to train people in basic intellectual hygiene.

    Steve occasionally writes some great stuff on HBD, but generally seems to write for people who have retired their minds or maybe never learned how to think critically.

    The other authors at Unz are an eclectic mix. Call it a cross-fit workout for the mind!

    • Agree: Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  184. @Anon
    Yeah, Biden's not leaving. This is a guy who ran for president unsuccessfully several times, and now that he's won the lottery prize, they're asking him to get rid of it. There's no way in heck he's going to do that. The Democrats don't understand his mentality. Biden really, really, wants to be the most important guy in the room.

    Biden's father lost his money and they were poor for a while, which must have absolutely humiliated Biden. Biden's first wife essentially committed suicide and tried to take her kids with her. Biden's eldest son died prematurely. Biden's younger son is a disgrace.

    Winning the presidency and clinging to it makes Biden feel like he's a winner who is important in life, and not someone whose life is actually a trainwreck, a disastrous, lower-class soap opera. Biden is a chucklehead who is an expert at denying and ignoring inconvenient facts, but what's really pathetic is that even his presidency is a trainwreck that he's in denial about.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Frau Katze, @QCIC, @Moshe Def, @Jack D, @Art Deco

    Biden has no agency and does nothing under his own power. His disturbing and pitiful public appearances are the best case.

    If he doesn’t behave they will take his Ensure away. Sad but true, just deal with it. He is a nasty, crooked old man who is reaching the end of the line. What a creep.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin, Old Prude
  185. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Does anyone have a link to the complete article (don't want to pay to see the rest of it).

    Who is E Michael Jones and is that someone we are supposed to have heard of?

    Replies: @Ralph L, @Bill Jones

    I didn’t have to pay anything, and it was worth what I paid for it.

  186. @Joe Stalin
    https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1814300337299165562

    Replies: @Ralph L

    That bird’s eye view shows what I suspected: if the podium had a been a few feet back or the upper bleachers forward, he wouldn’t have had a clear shot at all–or, at best, without being near the edge of the roof and easily visible from the ground.

  187. @jb
    @R.G. Camara


    Now, the 4-D chess reason:

    Trump, at age 78, and 5 days removed from being shot, spoke coherently and intelligently for 1.5 hours (93 minutes) from 10:30pm EST to 12am (9:30-11pm CST). Meanwhile, Joe Biden went to bed at 8pm, is down with COVID, missed the speech, and can’t speak coherently for 15 minutes even when not sick.
     
    The problem is that there is a very good chance he will not be facing Biden in November, in which case this reasoning goes out the window.

    Personally I think the man just genuinely has no discipline. I thought the beginning of the speech went well, I gritted my teeth and stuck with it after he went off script and started with the usual rambling bullshit, and finally bailed when he got to the Late Great Hannibal Lecter. WTF? The whole point of the acceptance speech was to win over the sort of people who don't go to his rallies and don't appreciate this sort of thing. I'm sure his handlers understood that perfectly well, and must have been dying inside.

    Probably Vance too. I like Vance, and I think has good intentions, but he's sold his soul for a chance to do some good over the next four years and maybe have a shot at the presidency in 2028. Unlike Trump, he's a grownup, and I assume he knows what he's in for if he wins, but wow! The NYT had a running commentary on Trump's speech, and at one point someone got a text from a Democratic official saying "this is the Trump we were expecting and hoping for!". In fact there were concerns that Trump's speech was so bad that it would dissuade Biden from dropping out! All in all, very disappointing. (Also: Hulk Hogan? Chris Rock? Really???)

    Replies: @jb, @R.G. Camara, @Gandydancer

    The problem is that there is a very good chance he will not be facing Biden in November, in which case this reasoning goes out the window.

    Disagree. First, if it helps to knock Biden out, it gives Trump the aura of winning (same as he got in the primaries in 2016 by taking out the big dog, Jeb Bush, first, and then mopping up the littler fish one by one). That means something—momentum turns into inevitability. And if Biden doesn’t leave, it does everything I said: makes Trump look presidential and forceful, and shows Biden to be weak.

    Second, it heads off at the pass any attacks the D’s will try on Trump for being “old”. “Hey our guy was about your age and he was too old to govern, here’s our younger person, you should step out like Biden did old man.” Trump proved he could go 90 minutes just days after being shot, that logic’s not going to dissuade his voters.

    Also: Hulk Hogan?

    Hogan’s speech was excellent, short, motivating, intelligent, and nostalgic. Every guy over 35 was transported back to his childhood and felt like we were beating the bad guys again. 9/10.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @R.G. Camara

    Even if Biden is somehow persuaded to not run in November, the Dems are still stuck with Kamala.

    How can they get rid of her (a so-called black woman)? She’s also highly unpopular.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @Art Deco
    @R.G. Camara

    (same as he got in the primaries in 2016 by taking out the big dog, Jeb Bush, first, and then mopping up the littler fish one by one)
    ==
    When Trump declared, Scott Walker's campaign evaporated in a matter weeks and Bush trailed first Trump and then a mess of others. Bush was never competitive in any venue once actual balloting began. Trump's competition was Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich; the rest hardly registered. Cruz wasn't a 'little fish'. He won 1/4 of the ballots cast in the sum of all states. They weren't 'mopped up one by one'. Cruz and Kasich left the race at the same time.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

  188. @Matthew Kelly
    This isn't really my thing so I found them all...meh (if not cringe).

    The sole exception was Dana White. I found nothing to criticize in his speech, and much to praise.

    I gave Trump as much time as I could but had to get to bed. Seemed very somber at first, but started getting a bit more energetic and "Trumpy" as he went on. I'll trust there will be a zillion opinions on his performance tomorrow that I can catch up on...

    Replies: @Batman, @Torna atrás

    I saw Iwo Jima briefly trending today and knew what it was referring to. Today is just not a good day for the Democrats!

    Trump is a beast compared to Abe!

    • LOL: RadicalCenter
  189. @Frau Katze
    @Anon


    Biden’s first wife essentially committed suicide and tried to take her kids with her.
     
    Biden’s first wife, driving with her children Beau, Hunter and a baby girl, turned out onto a highway and was hit by a truck. December 1972.

    The truck driver was unhurt and found to be not at fault. The wife and daughter were killed. You can find a picture of the wrecked car by searching for “Biden wife car accident” and selecting Images.

    The car is pretty wrecked. There is no indication that she was suicidal. I’ve never heard that.

    However Biden continued to lie and say the truck driver had been drinking (untrue).

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    However Biden continued to lie and say the truck driver had been drinking (untrue).

    Biden’s whole identity is constructed of lies. Some harmless, daffy ones like Corn Pop and some vicious, unconscionable ones like the one blaming the truck driver. The truck driver has to live with his involvement in this accident, and though he was innocent it must be an awful thing to bear, and on top of that he has to bear being repeatedly slandered by a pathological liar with a high public profile.

  190. @Harry Baldwin
    @UES guy

    his description of the PA shooting was written by him and full of cliches

    I shake my head in wonderment at some of the people who comment here.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Gandydancer

    And his bandage was too big, I hear. Why is he trying to call attention to the fact that he was shot? It’s such a divisive thing to do! (/sarc)

  191. @Anonymous
    Trump heaped a lot of praise on the Secret Service, and it was obvious with their heavy all-male presence around Trump at the RNC that it was itself partly PR in an attempt to repair their image.

    Secret Service should’ve worried about who they were recruiting years ago. Remember this story?


    Secret Service agent under fire after posting she wouldn't take bullet for Trump

    Steph Solis
    USA TODAY
    Jan. 24, 2017

    The Secret Service is "taking appropriate action" after a special agent wrote a Facebook post suggesting she wouldn't take a bullet for Donald Trump if he were president.

    A Secret Service spokesperson confirmed that the agency was aware of Facebook posts made by special agent Kerry O'Grady, but wouldn't elaborate on them further because it is a personnel matter…

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/25/01/3C7A82B400000578-0-image-a-40_1485307882627.jpg

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/01/24/secret-service-agent-kerry-o-grady-social-media-posts/97015422/

     

    The Navy SEALs and other U.S. special forces don’t allow women in their ranks. Crazy that the protective detail of the U.S. president has women. What a mistake.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Bill Jones, @Gandydancer

    Crazy that the protective detail of the U.S. president has women. What a mistake.

    In due time a DEI study will confirm what all decent people instinctively know: The bullet stopping power of short fat women is greater than that of tall muscular men.

    Nothing will get better until the 19th Amendment is repealed.
    Read Aristophanes’ The Assemblywomen

  192. @AnotherDad
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    No one is naming the Jew, therefore nothing serious or substantial will get done. As usual.

    Can’t have a real country or a real politics, if you can’t or won’t identify its real mortal enemies.
     

    Disagree.

    I'm upfront that I think the minoritarian cancer is basically Jewish ideology, pushed and propagandized to ascendency by American Jews. And that the "scientists" pushing the whole anti-genetic, nurture-uber-alles, ideology** were/are Jews doing political "science" in the service of minoritarianism. (**Basically, that human group differences in intelligence and personality are the sole area in the whole reach of biology unaffected by genes.)


    But there's no need politically to run around "naming the Jew". No, you simply attack the bad behavior, bad policies, bad ideology.

    Same as with blacks and crime. You don't "name the black", you denounce crime, call for "law and order" and locking up criminals. If blacks start whining that denouncing crime is attacking blacks, or blacks are more likely to be locked up, you respond "Well then blacks should do better. Stop tolerating criminals in your communities—zero tolerance. Black men should work harder to keep their sons on the straight and narrow—out of gangs, off the criminal path. It's your community, you need to fix it."

    Likewise, you denounce the immigration and open border treason. If some Jews start pointing out that you're naming mostly Jews—ex. Mayorkas, Garland, the "Biden Administration" traitors--and pipe up with their usual "anti-Semite!", you respond the same way: "So you're telling me Jews have a problem being loyal Americans? Putting the interests of their fellow Americans and our posterity first? Well then Jews should do better. Patriotic Jews should work on routing this virus of disloyalty out of their community. It's not like there aren't plenty of Jews—like Stephen Miller—who are patriotic and want to preserve America for Americans and our posterity. Jews should do better and fix it." The media Jews, of course, will squeal like stuck pigs when you say "disloyal". But while Americans are ho-hum philo-Semitic, if Jews starting broadcasting that Jews in fact do find pushing immigration rather than loyalty to the interests of Americans part of their "Jewish identity", that will just cause normie Americans to go "hmm". It's not a winner for Jews.

    Same with anything else. You call for normality, decency, sanity, national loyalty and denounce the destructive people, pushing crime, immivasion, anti-whitism, trannies, anti-family, anti-natalism, cultural depravity etc. If someone wants to pop-up and say "but that's who we are!", you respond "Well then who you are sucks. Do better."

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Colin Wright, @rebel yell, @Jack D

    Wow… you would be like the World’s Worst Oncologist.

    “You’ve got a Stage 4 cancer in your colon, which has spread to your liver. Our treatment plan is to try and reason with the tumors, and try to rationally persuade them to retreat to Stage 3 in your transverse colon.”

    Yeah, that’ll work OK.

    The whole trump card you’re holding is that: Jews care about nothing, except the welfare of Jews. They would nuke this entire planet and murder everyone else, if they thought they could fly off safely to Zion on the Moon. Built of course by goyim first. Where there would finally be no Cossacks or Nazis, threatening special precious chosen Jews.

    But your political ace in the hole is….

    They really, really, REALLY hate being identified as Jews, because that blows their cover, and then they are seen as being worse than pointless to the societies they have infested, because JEWS! It’s like roaches scurrying for cover when you turn on the kitchen light at 4 AM.

    The best thing you can do is shine a direct light on them, and name them and enumerate their endless Jewish crimes. Let the entire electorate really see Max Schreck, and what he really wants. Let them only vote, AFTER they’ve seen their enemy in his real costume.

    But your proposal is, Let’s just continue to quarrel endlessly with Nosferatu.

    Sure that’ll work.

    • Troll: Frau Katze
  193. @Old Prude
    @Reg Cæsar

    I wonder how real Hulk's voice is. I once had Sargent Slaughter on my radio show, and when the mic was off, he talked like a normal person. When it was on, he sounded like Hulk Hogan.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    You can find clips of his fairly recent interview on Joe Rogan’s show. He puts some gravel into it for his shtick, but in normal conversation his voice is fairly deep.

    And small quibble but it’s spelled sergeant, and the wrestler Bob Remus’ gimmick was spelled merely “Sgt. Slaughter.”

    The yt channels Title Match Wrestling and The Hannibal TV have collected a tremendous amount of interviews with pro wrestlers from the 80’s, including Slaughter. Some of them are fascinating to listen to. Bobby Heenan’s and Gene Okerlund’s are outstanding.

  194. @Anon
    Yeah, Biden's not leaving. This is a guy who ran for president unsuccessfully several times, and now that he's won the lottery prize, they're asking him to get rid of it. There's no way in heck he's going to do that. The Democrats don't understand his mentality. Biden really, really, wants to be the most important guy in the room.

    Biden's father lost his money and they were poor for a while, which must have absolutely humiliated Biden. Biden's first wife essentially committed suicide and tried to take her kids with her. Biden's eldest son died prematurely. Biden's younger son is a disgrace.

    Winning the presidency and clinging to it makes Biden feel like he's a winner who is important in life, and not someone whose life is actually a trainwreck, a disastrous, lower-class soap opera. Biden is a chucklehead who is an expert at denying and ignoring inconvenient facts, but what's really pathetic is that even his presidency is a trainwreck that he's in denial about.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Frau Katze, @QCIC, @Moshe Def, @Jack D, @Art Deco

    He agreed to drop out 4 days ago, but forgot the next morning.

  195. @Bragadocious
    @John Gruskos

    Maybe you hyperventilating clowns should stop with the Israel stuff. You'll never get your way and you should learn to cope. The 2016 campaign had no anti-Israel stuff. Go back and look if you don't believe me. The most Trump would say is that he wanted to make a deal. That was it. He did exit office pretty much hating Netanyahu, FWIW.

    Anyway, Israel is about the 20th most important thing on Trump's plate right now. Freeing the US from Britain's maximalist Ukraine psychosis is the #1 priority, and probably priorities 2 and 3 as well. He's appointed a VP who is getting savaged in the British press right now, and this is an excellent sign.

    Replies: @Manfred Arcane, @Colin Wright, @John Gruskos

    Agreed! I almost feel like some of the Unz commenters would declare victory if America simply cut off aid to Israel without doing anything to deal with the issues that actually matter. The open border, offshoring and outsourcing, the medical-industrial complex that’s giving us the Covid shots and the trans surgeries, woke capital, the idiotic escalation with Russia, the BLM and Antifa rioters, the groomers in the public schools, the push for world government, the ongoing demonization of white people–these are all issues a hundred times more important than the issue of which side we support in a little war in the Middle East. Unless, I suppose, you buy into the paranoia that says the Jews are a united worldwide front and the Israeli government is the “final boss”–which is sheer nonsense. Israel doesn’t give a bleep about America’s domestic policies so long as they keep receiving support, and isn’t responsible for the US’s decline; in fact, I’m sure they’d prefer America to tilt towards the right again, since the young brown leftwing “new Americans” are not likely to support a white colonial state like Israel. Yes, there are lots of American Jewish leftists involved in the American decline, but they’re not getting their marching orders from Israel–as the hard left’s ardent support for Hamas should make clear. Again, liberal American Jewish boomers’ support for Israel is not somehow part of an evil Master Plan, but an unprincipled exception and historical accident that will fade as new generations of leftists, Jewish and Gentile, come to power in America.

  196. @John Gruskos
    The Republican platform has two planks:
    1. Fight a war against Iran for the benefit of Israel.
    2. Eliminate the first amendment on campus for the benefit of Israel.

    Bill Ackman's Israel-First agenda can't generate any genuine enthusiasm.

    The revolutionary American nationalist energy of 2016 was completely and utterly absent.

    Replies: @Sgt Sternhammer, @Jack D, @Bragadocious, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Bill Jones

    The US’ leading Yiddistani is trying to start a war with Iran right now:

    Distraction? Blinken Says Iran Just 1-2 Weeks Away From Producing Material For A Nuclear Weapon

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/distraction-blinken-says-iran-just-1-2-weeks-away-producing-material-nuclear-weapon

    These people have no place in the West.

  197. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Does anyone have a link to the complete article (don't want to pay to see the rest of it).

    Who is E Michael Jones and is that someone we are supposed to have heard of?

    Replies: @Ralph L, @Bill Jones

  198. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Linus

    The head tat whore, Amber Rose, a former stripper/hooker whose main claim to fame was being Kanye's booty call, was given a platform during prime time, over other conservatives of color such as Candace Owens. No matter what you may think of Candace Owens, she actually has worked within conservative movement for half a decade.

    Per the work of conservative columnist Pedro Gonzalez, Amber Rose up until this spring was praising Satanism, is very pro-LGBT and abortion, hawks cryptocurrency, and has an OnlyFans account.

    Also, her most recent baby daddy dumped her for...CHER. Yes, THAT Cher--who's now 78 yrs old.

    It simply doesn't make any sense why she was invited to speak on the stage, unless of course we apply Occam's Razor--it's Trump's show, and he wanted her to speak. After all, let's not forget the reason for the federal lawsuit in NY--over a pornstar. The closeups of him listening to her speaking while on the stage show that he was more than interested in what she had to say.

    Noticing the historical trend. The likes of Amber Rose would apparently very much be Trump's type of woman, both publicly and privately. There's a clear pattern that that's what he prefers. After all, former First Lady Melania was an underwear model for Victoria's Secret.

    She basically was there during prime time to verbal felatio him on the stage right in front of him, and this coming from a woman who used to make a living doing this sort of job off stage and in hotel rooms.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Alternatively, the Republicans are going after blacks and young people. Candace Owens is the sort of black person who is appealing to older white voters, not other black and young people. And to people who don’t get the vapors when someone like Amber Rose appears on the stage.

    The idea of the convention is to make Republicans appear to be a big tent and not something that is just for white Christians who are already voting for them anyway.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin, Mark G.
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Jack D

    Candace Owens is the sort of black person who is appealing to older white voters, not other black and young people.

    That's not it at all.

    It's LOOK WE FOUND A BLACKISH WOMAN and she has a face tattoo which gives her street cred.

    The idea of the convention is to make Republicans appear to be a big tent and not something that is just for white Christians who are already voting for them anyway.

    They definitely have a big tent

    https://grosh.com/wp-content/uploads/Circus_backdrop_ES79302-1.jpg

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Jack D

    They've been trying this big tent inclusivity strategy for over 30 yrs. It has failed. Period.

    Getting a sizable percentage of the black vote is like trying to find the mythical city of gold, or Prester John's kingdom. It simply doesn't exist.

    Dare say that the GOP leaders don't believe that they can win a sizable share of the black vote anymore, if they ever truly did. They make noises about it in order to: Get the MSM off their backs for being racists; try and convince their prole voters that the GOP really is an inclusive party.

    No one's buying it. They never bought it. Convention after convention, they trot out these blacks and give them a platform on the stage to speak, and STILL they get no credit by the MSM or from black voters. They don't like their policies, which they feel adversely affect them.

    Because if you end Affirmative Action, quotas, DEI, and not go along with Reparations, then black voters on masse think that GOP doesn't push their issues. Not sure they really think that the GOP is racist per se; its more "They don't care about our issues, and policies that directly affect us."

    But then, Trump in 2020 offered them the Platinum Plan, a litany of a whole lot of concrete policies that blacks have said that they want and care about...and STILL they didn't vote for him.

    The GOP is basically wasting their time pandering to black voters. They aren't going to vote for the GOP in any significant percentages. It's a waste of time and one that has been going on for over half a century.

    You don't see the Democrats pandering to get white Christians who are strongly pro-life, favor a significant religious presence in the public realm, et etc. They know that there's no votes for them to get in that space.

    Basically the GOP should learn from their mistakes about pandering and move on. Maybe try to get some more Hispanics to vote for them, at least there they might have a legitimate chance of increasing their share of the Hispanic vote.

  199. Sure is a mystery why the wealthy and highly-educated are moving away from the Republican Party.

  200. HA says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...
    @HA


    “We heard of it in 2016 when the DNC brought it in to figure out who hacked their server. Crowdstrike declared, “Russia! Russia! Russia!”, as that was the thing to do at the time. Later, Crowdstrike admitted it had no evidence to support that.”

    Do you have a source for that alleged backtracking admission? This is from Crowdstrike’s own website (as of 2000):

    ....

    And this is from the Times of India published 8 hours ago:
     
    And this is a report on testimony from CrowdStrike's president of services and chief security officer Shawn Henry before the US House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence in December 2017, admitting that CrowdStrike had absolutely no evidence that Russia was involved in the DNC mail hack. https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/crowdstrike-chief-admits-no-proof-that-russia-exfiltrated-dnc-emails.html.

    As Wikileaks insinuated, it was probably an inside job by Seth Rich, who paid for his "sin" a bit later https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/seth-rich-who-is-he-wikileaks-murder-hillary-clinton-conspiracy-explained-a7739606.html.

    Replies: @HA, @J.Ross, @Cagey Beast

    I’ll start with CageyBeast:

    “…waiting 8, 16 or 26 hours for my post to appear…”

    If it’s any consolation, your craven link-free admission that you’re not gonna even bother answering got approved quick enough, as did the other followups. You know, maybe if you actually bothered to put some effort into making a post with links and evidence, you’d get approved faster, but I guess we’ll never know, eh?

    “And this is a report on testimony from CrowdStrike’s president of services…”

    Now, on to Jus’ Saying, i.e. the reply of someone who did actually bother to provide to link — i.e. not as lame as what CageyBeast put together — BUT APPARENTLY DIDN’T READ TO THE END OF HIS OWN LINK. Rookie mistake, that, though again, it shows at least some effort. I’ll do everyone the favor of posting that last bit here:

    Since publication, CrowdStrike has responded and issued a statement for inclusion in this article.

    CrowdStrike Statement of Response:

    The suggestion that CrowdStrike ‘had no proof’ of the data being exfiltrated is INCORRECT. [emphasis added] Shawn Henry clearly said in his testimony that CrowdStrike HAD indicators of exfiltration ( page 32 of the testimony) and circumstantial evidence (page 75) that indicated the data had been exfiltrated. Also, please note that the Senate Intelligence Committee in April 2020 issued a report (https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume4.pdf/) validating the previous conclusions of the Intelligence community that Russia was behind the DNC data breach.

    I.e., the statement that CrowdStrike had backtracked or admitted it had no evidence involves tendentious omissions and twisting. In that sense, it’s like your own comment, which conspicuously omits CrowdStrike’s response/rebuttal.

    CrowdStrike therefore still maintains that they do have proof (and again, my first link post-dates the above article, and as far as I can tell, that is their official position to this day). As to whatever Wikileaks “insinuates”, that’s another rabbit hole altogether. If that’s going to sway you, you might as well listen to what OJ “insinuates” about the real killers of Nicole Brown Simpson, since our system of “justice” declared he himself was “not guilty” of the deed.

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    @HA


    CrowdStrike therefore still maintains that they do have proof (and again, my first link post-dates the above article, and as far as I can tell, that is their official position to this day).
     
    I'll put more faith in a statement made under oath by a man facing possible perjury charges than I will in a later, self-serving assertion by some, repudiating that man's testimony.

    It's your privilege to do otherwise.

    Overall, the dimocrat managed hearings were intended to promulgate the Russiagate hoax. Little glimmers of truth did seem to appear when minority members were allowed to question witnesses.

    Replies: @HA

  201. HA says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @HA

    Granted, but Trump was essentially correct that Russia was NOT behind the whole "Russia hacked the voting machines and caused Hillary to lose the election."

    I mean, that is a f'ckery conspiracy to impeach a sitting president when there was no there there.

    Besides, like the US hasn't directly and indirectly interfere with other countries elections from time to time?

    Oh yeah. We have done that, actually.

    Let the nation without sin cast the first stone.

    Now lets take it a step further.

    The Nordstream pipeline. Are we expected to take the US's state dept and other official findings as gospel that...Russia itself blew up its own pipeline? Why would they do that when they built it?

    Who exactly blew up the Nordstream pipeline? Oh, a Ukrainian ten foot sailboat? Perhaps Pulitzer Prize winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh can still teach the clueless populace a thing or two regarding finding out what actually occurred.

    Replies: @HA, @Jack D

    “Trump was essentially correct that Russia was NOT behind the whole ‘Russia hacked the voting machines and caused Hillary to lose the election.’”

    That’s just more tendentious link-free assertions on your part and not relevant to the INCORRECT claim that CrowdStrike admitted it had no evidence of what they asserted. Same goes for smoke-screen tactics and tu quoque games with however much our own spies/hackers meddle with Russian politics, or NordStream, let alone Russia hacking the voting machines. Desperate much? You look like a scared squid frantically squirting ink over everything while swimming away.

    The old “yeah, but what about THIS?” approach to weaseling out of a failed line of “reasoning” is a tactic that is much beloved by all conspiracy theorists — there’s always another twist in their narrative that allows them to conveniently avoid admitting that yet another of their flimsy arguments has been shredded to pieces — but it’s not gonna impress anyone who has dealt with you lot before.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @HA

    Uh, NO, I brought up an entirely different point, which apparently sailed, zoomed way over your head. I brought up an entirely different matter, to which you apparently were obtuse to see that it was another topic that was brought up. I moved on to another topic, pure and simple.

    What I STATED was that Russia did NOT hack US voting machines and causing Hillary to lose the election. Honestly, only a seven yr old is that f'ed up to believe such a lie. Just as only an f'ed person or devious, or simply part of the Deep State putting out the propaganda talking points, still clings to the Russia blew up its own pipelines, or it was a small Ukrainian sailboat that did the work.

    Whether one wants to admit it or not, Hillary lost the election in 16. Period. It was not due to nefarious plot by Russia. Honestly, the hubris of the Deep State, D/GOP, government is so offputting.

    You're no longer being funny, HA HA HA.

    Replies: @HA

  202. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @AnotherDad

    "Same as with blacks and crime. You don’t “name the black”, you denounce crime, call for “law and order” and locking up criminals. If blacks start whining that denouncing crime is attacking blacks, or blacks are more likely to be locked up, you respond “Well then blacks should do better. Stop tolerating criminals in your communities—zero tolerance. Black men should work harder to keep their sons on the straight and narrow—out of gangs, off the criminal path. It’s your community, you need to fix it.”

    Bullshit.

    This whole personal responsibility schitck happened during the 80's and 90's, hell, Rush Limbaugh made an entire career riffing on this aspect of aspect of social problems. Well, 40 yrs on and we now have evidence it has failed.

    It hasn't worked because:

    1. Libs and blacks still turned around and screamed raycist raycist raycist!

    2. Personal Responsiblity a la "Just do better and try harder!" only works so far as long as those at the top aren't also evading personal responsibility. When they shipped jobs to Mexico, China, etc and people complained, the rejoinder was "ignore that and do better, try harder!" when they polluted the environment and rewrote laws to make it less worker friendly for the top 1% benefit, the rejoinder was "ignore that and do better, try harder!

    But eventually one can only do and try for so long, until the rug and the matt are pulled out from underneath, as well as the foundation is completely obliterated.

    Funny thing. Never saw Rush, Hannity, and other cultural conservatives lambast big business, top 1%, and all the GOP leaders.

    Hmm.

    Its almost like they were in the same boat and in bed with them all during this time.

    Double Hmm.

    Do better and try harder. The top 1% has totally ignored the first part of that sentence, but they definitely are trying harder---trying harder to screw the other 95% out of what little aspect of a middle class life remains. People such as Jeffrey Epstein were not a symptom but a feature of that lassiez faire era that thrived under the ol' "do better and try harder" and meanwhile not holding the top 1% accountable for any of their actions that diectly impacted the bottom 90%.

    Triple Hmm.

    "history will not be kind to Rush Limbaugh"--Andrew Anglin

    Andy spoke the truth on that one.

    Replies: @Getaclue, @OilcanFloyd

    Limbaugh is more loved than ever the Leftists who hate him hate the USA and that will never change! They’re morons.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Getaclue

    Limbaugh is not loved by most leftists, or most anyone’s in the USA. He’s rapidly becoming a forgotten man.

    Most people under age 40 probably have no idea who Rush Limbaugh was.

    Most people under age 40 never listened to over-the-air talk radio and never will.

    Walk around the streets of the cities and suburbs alike and ask younger people who Limbaugh is.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  203. @Jus' Sayin'...
    @HA


    “We heard of it in 2016 when the DNC brought it in to figure out who hacked their server. Crowdstrike declared, “Russia! Russia! Russia!”, as that was the thing to do at the time. Later, Crowdstrike admitted it had no evidence to support that.”

    Do you have a source for that alleged backtracking admission? This is from Crowdstrike’s own website (as of 2000):

    ....

    And this is from the Times of India published 8 hours ago:
     
    And this is a report on testimony from CrowdStrike's president of services and chief security officer Shawn Henry before the US House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence in December 2017, admitting that CrowdStrike had absolutely no evidence that Russia was involved in the DNC mail hack. https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/crowdstrike-chief-admits-no-proof-that-russia-exfiltrated-dnc-emails.html.

    As Wikileaks insinuated, it was probably an inside job by Seth Rich, who paid for his "sin" a bit later https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/seth-rich-who-is-he-wikileaks-murder-hillary-clinton-conspiracy-explained-a7739606.html.

    Replies: @HA, @J.Ross, @Cagey Beast

    Crowdstrike in the news again because they royally screwed up some corporate code; an anon did a pretty good job of summarizing these disgusting incompetant activists and their election interference:
    https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/474943816

  204. @Jus' Sayin'...
    @HA


    “We heard of it in 2016 when the DNC brought it in to figure out who hacked their server. Crowdstrike declared, “Russia! Russia! Russia!”, as that was the thing to do at the time. Later, Crowdstrike admitted it had no evidence to support that.”

    Do you have a source for that alleged backtracking admission? This is from Crowdstrike’s own website (as of 2000):

    ....

    And this is from the Times of India published 8 hours ago:
     
    And this is a report on testimony from CrowdStrike's president of services and chief security officer Shawn Henry before the US House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence in December 2017, admitting that CrowdStrike had absolutely no evidence that Russia was involved in the DNC mail hack. https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/crowdstrike-chief-admits-no-proof-that-russia-exfiltrated-dnc-emails.html.

    As Wikileaks insinuated, it was probably an inside job by Seth Rich, who paid for his "sin" a bit later https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/seth-rich-who-is-he-wikileaks-murder-hillary-clinton-conspiracy-explained-a7739606.html.

    Replies: @HA, @J.Ross, @Cagey Beast

    There’s also the information in this tweet thread:

    … which is captured here as well:
    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1757070576949068271.html

  205. @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad

    This is some kind of mass delusion, where you have an election stolen from you, the people who stole it have total power for 4 years, then for some reason they let you win the next time.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    It’s not one group of people. Consider the one guy in the Mel Gibson movie Edge of Darkness, the one who listens and then makes a decision. It’s not some bugaboo man with horns growing put of his head, having infinite power, randomly. Various people are given a shot by a controlling organ. They succeed or fail, because they don’t have infinite power. If they keep failing, do you think they will stay? So the Obamist-Neocon coalition successfully got permission to “fortify” the election because of several factors, the most important of which being they thought that they would succeed in their goals. Have they? Sh#t’s on fire, yo. Will they try to cheat again? Sure, but they don’t have the situation they had last time, they won’t be allowed to “fortify” the election, and they don’t have the lockdown as an excuse to literally throw electoral procedure out the window.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @J.Ross

    I think that our rulers will allow Trump to win this time.

    But this business about the lockdown as necessary for mass voter fraud is just not true.

    Many states instituted automatic vote-by-mail, and they did NOT return to legitimate, verifiable, in-person voting after the lockdowns and plan-demic ended. The same mass mail voting is still in place, perfect for massive fraud.

    And here’s a question: since the 2020 selection of “biden/harris”, which states have enacted a law requiring voters to show identification that proves their identity, home address, age, AND US CITIZENSHIP? That would require a blue US Citizen’s passport plus a government-issued ID showing home address and birthdate.

    Does even a single “conservative” state require this?

    Did Republicans ever enact a national ID requirement like this for federal elections, when they controlled the White House, Senate and Congress from 2003 to 2007?

    Has Trumpstein even proposed this passport-plus-driver’s license requirement?

    Has “Vance” ever introduced or co-sponsored a bill in the Senate to impose such an ID requirement?

    Replies: @J.Ross

  206. @Ralph L
    Who here suspects the Microsoft/Crowdstrike fiasco was designed and timed to divert attention away from the RNC and Biden's problems?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    No, according to what I’ve read it was a reputation-damaging honest coding error. Trying to find a good summary to link here.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @J.Ross

    That’s what the WSJ is saying too.

    https://www.wsj.com/tech/cybersecurity/crowdstrike-outage-software-patch-78d05df2

    No conspiracy.

  207. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @HA

    Granted, but Trump was essentially correct that Russia was NOT behind the whole "Russia hacked the voting machines and caused Hillary to lose the election."

    I mean, that is a f'ckery conspiracy to impeach a sitting president when there was no there there.

    Besides, like the US hasn't directly and indirectly interfere with other countries elections from time to time?

    Oh yeah. We have done that, actually.

    Let the nation without sin cast the first stone.

    Now lets take it a step further.

    The Nordstream pipeline. Are we expected to take the US's state dept and other official findings as gospel that...Russia itself blew up its own pipeline? Why would they do that when they built it?

    Who exactly blew up the Nordstream pipeline? Oh, a Ukrainian ten foot sailboat? Perhaps Pulitzer Prize winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh can still teach the clueless populace a thing or two regarding finding out what actually occurred.

    Replies: @HA, @Jack D

    Besides, like the US hasn’t directly and indirectly interfere with other countries elections from time to time?

    If Russia is innocent then why are your bringing this up at all? The Russian line (which you echo faithfully) is that we dindu nuthin and anyway y’all do this stuff too. One or other. Either say you are innocent or say that you did it and everyone else does it too, but not both. The Russian method is to throw everything possible on the wall and see what sticks but all that this does is make them (and you) seem like inconsistent liars.

    Anyway, the Russians have now taken the approach that all “foreign interference” at home (e.g. having a free press or saying anything against Putin) is illegal or spying and will get you 16 years in prison so they are not in a good position to say that it’s OK for them to interfere in US elections. Again, one or the other, either “foreign interference” is OK everywhere or it is not OK anywhere. If the US is doing this then condemn it but don’t imitate it. “All the other kids are doing it” doesn’t work as an excuse even when you are 9 years old.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Jack D

    "Anyway, the Russians have now taken the approach that all “foreign interference” at home (e.g. having a free press or saying anything against Putin) is illegal or spying and will get you 16 years in prison so they are not in a good position to say that it’s OK for them to interfere in US elections. Again, one or the other, either “foreign interference” is OK everywhere or it is not OK anywhere. If the US is doing this then condemn it but don’t imitate it. "

    Are you finished?

    For all the crowing about having a free press, how'd the US Deep State treat Julian Assange?

    That name will be forever a black mark vs the US, and how it treats journalists of the press.

    Go ahead. Waiting for you to repeat the Deep State talking points "He wasn't an accredited journalist therefore Julian deserved what he got!"--uh, yes, a decade in prison, his life made a living hell, kangaroo court to try and extradite him to the US for a lifetime of prison.

    Go ahead. Blame Putin for Julian Assange, that Julian was actually working undercover for the Kremlin. Go ahead.

    Assange. Assange. Assange.

    Again, and THAT will be forever a black mark on the US and how it treats journalists of the press.

    Replies: @Jack D

  208. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Anon

    "The Democrats don’t understand his mentality."

    Uh, no, the Dems really DO understand his mentality--it's declining and that quite rapidly. And he committed the cardinal sin of making it too public for the whole world to see. Can anyone imagine him next month having to speak for about an hr LIVE and UNCENSORED? To have to read from the teleprompter LIVE before the entire world? If the Dems were hunky dory okay with that, then why are they trying to attempt a palace coup by replacing him at the convention?

    Oh yeah.

    "Biden really, really, wants to be the most important guy in the room."

    And last he could remember, he was. What makes anyone think that he consciously can still remember that he's currently the president? Dementia is a legitimate real disease.

    The party is working overtime to escort him off the stage, out of the room.

    Nothing to see here, folks!

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    “And last he could remember, he was. What makes anyone think that he consciously can still remember that he’s currently the president? Dementia is a legitimate real disease.”

    Dementia is a real disease but most forms are progressive. The impairment starts out minor, barely noticeable, but keeps getting worse and worse. Biden doesn’t appear that far gone, that he doesn’t know he is President, yet. Maybe in a couple of years. Another thing about dementia is that patients often are in denial about their condition.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @James B. Shearer

    Up to a point yes, it is a progresssive disease. Which means that he likely had dementia all through his Vice-Presidency. He didn't just suddenly wake in up 2021 and poof, started to get minor signs of the disease.

    Which means that in 2020 when he was running for President, it was fairly obvious (especially to those people who have a loved one who is dealing with dementia) and there are millions of them out there who have a loved one who are dealing with it.

    I'm guessing he first had minor touches of it since about 2010, perhaps 2005.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

  209. @Jack D
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Alternatively, the Republicans are going after blacks and young people. Candace Owens is the sort of black person who is appealing to older white voters, not other black and young people. And to people who don't get the vapors when someone like Amber Rose appears on the stage.

    The idea of the convention is to make Republicans appear to be a big tent and not something that is just for white Christians who are already voting for them anyway.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Candace Owens is the sort of black person who is appealing to older white voters, not other black and young people.

    That’s not it at all.

    It’s LOOK WE FOUND A BLACKISH WOMAN and she has a face tattoo which gives her street cred.

    The idea of the convention is to make Republicans appear to be a big tent and not something that is just for white Christians who are already voting for them anyway.

    They definitely have a big tent

    • LOL: Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @John Johnson

    She's 80% white. She doesn't have to try and pass for being white. She basically is white. The GOP used a photo of her at the convention and she's almost as light as Taylor Swift. Amber DOES have to try and pass for being biracial, hence the dark makeup during her speech.

    In this situation, it really isn't that complicated. She met Trump a few months ago, and posed for a picture with him. She has publicly supported him for a few months now. Trump found out and told the convention organizers "Get her to speak at the convention, and give her a primetime platform."

    In this case it isn't any more complicated. She's his type. The camera panned to him during her speech, he clearly was interested in her verbal fellatio of him during her speech.

    Also, just state the truth. She's his type. What was that recent NY lawsuit over? A porn star. This isn't any different than Bill Clinton, except that the MSM for the most part, has run interference and protection for him for decades.

    Daresay that Bill Clinton watched her speech as well, and was thinking "Day-um! The Donald sure does get a finer grade of hoe than I got during my administration. I'd hit that if I could."

    It's simple. Trump wanted her to speak at the convention and in a prime time slot. She's his type. He fancies her. End of story, it's not any more complicated than that. And most in the political world behind the scenes already know that. Has nothing to do with getting votes in new places. After all, what the hell were Hulk Hogan and Dana White doing at the convention speaking on the stage? Because Trump wanted it that way. Same thing.

    If Brandi Love had played her cards right, she too would've been given a prime time slot at the convention. Brandi's mistake is that she didn't go directly to Trump himself and try and win him over.

    There's really no difference between Brandi and Amber Rose. One's just a little sharper on how to market herself to the mainstream and to get herself a new grift in order to stay relevant.

  210. @Anon
    Yeah, Biden's not leaving. This is a guy who ran for president unsuccessfully several times, and now that he's won the lottery prize, they're asking him to get rid of it. There's no way in heck he's going to do that. The Democrats don't understand his mentality. Biden really, really, wants to be the most important guy in the room.

    Biden's father lost his money and they were poor for a while, which must have absolutely humiliated Biden. Biden's first wife essentially committed suicide and tried to take her kids with her. Biden's eldest son died prematurely. Biden's younger son is a disgrace.

    Winning the presidency and clinging to it makes Biden feel like he's a winner who is important in life, and not someone whose life is actually a trainwreck, a disastrous, lower-class soap opera. Biden is a chucklehead who is an expert at denying and ignoring inconvenient facts, but what's really pathetic is that even his presidency is a trainwreck that he's in denial about.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Frau Katze, @QCIC, @Moshe Def, @Jack D, @Art Deco

    Biden’s first wife essentially committed suicide and tried to take her kids with her.

    Biden slanders the truck driver by saying that he was at fault when he wasn’t. It does no good to slander Biden back by saying that his wife committed suicide (in some versions because he was having affairs). There is no proof for this either.

    By all accounts it was a tragic accident like many road accidents. His wife was the “at fault” party (unlike what Biden says) but there is zero proof that she intentionally caused the accident. The truck was going down the highway at full speed and had the right of way at an intersection and she was at a stop sign and pulled out in front of him and was T-boned and hit hard with no time for the truck driver to stop in time. Perhaps one of the kids was being annoying or doing something dangerous and she was distracted by that (not to blame the kids who were babies) . Perhaps she didn’t see the truck for some reason or misjudged the distance. T-bone accidents happen all the time and they are not usually suicide. This is why 2 way stop signs have been replaced either by traffic lights or by 4 way stops in many places.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @Jack D

    "... This is why 2 way stop signs have been replaced either by traffic lights .."

    There is now a light at the intersection. By one account:

    "In that interview, Herlihy said Neilia Biden either accelerated or drifted through the intersection, and Dunn could not stop. The truck driver said she was not looking at him, her face turned away, and the state police thought she was distracted by one of the children in the back seat. "

    Replies: @Gordo

    , @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    There is abundant proof of why his wife might have been driven to this extreme, but you are technically correct that we don't know for sure.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

  211. @Joe Stalin
    DM has an interesting article today on the fast ID of the Trump shooter.

    How the FBI identified Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks within hours - and how they could do the same for YOU

    The gunman, 'loner' Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20, was not carrying an ID, had no criminal record, nearly zero digital footprint and no friends, forcing the FBI to resort to DNA analysis to identity him.

    As Kevin Rojek, the special agent-in-charge (SAIC) for the FBI's Pittsburgh field office, told reporters just hours after the shooting on Saturday, 'We're trying to run his DNA and get biometric confirmation.'

    While the FBI declined to answer DailyMail.com's requests for details on how they did this DNA analysis, experts say it has often included scouring consumer genealogy databases like Ancestory.com and 23andMe — which store tens of millions of Americans' biometric data each.

    One parallel effort conducted by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) 'completed an urgent trace' that ultimately led to the 'business records from a closed gun dealer,' according to an ATF statement.

    That effort, a frantic, manual search through the closed gun shop's paper records, helped trace the rifle to the Crooks' father, according to a report by CNN.

    'Results were provided to the FBI and Secret Service in less than 30 minutes that helped identify the shooter,' ATF reported a day after the FBI's DNA announcement.

    [LOL. Paper records? ]

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13636701/DNA-database-Trump-shooter-Thomas-Matthew-Crooks-FBI.html
     

    Replies: @QCIC, @Jack D

    If you read the article closely, it indicates that they found him thru the gun records and not thru the DNA. They were “trying” to run the DNA but it doesn’t appear that they had succeeded by the time they found the gun records. Finding unknown perps via DNA is entirely possible but it also usually involves doing genealogy research and is not something that you can do in a few hours using present technology. I’m sure that eventually Big Data will also digitize family trees so that such a search can be done instantly, but not yet.

  212. @ScarletNumber
    @AnotherDad


    I hope he had solid focus that the “Biden Administration”‘s open border is a war upon Americans... Also hope he gave a shout out to the hero dad murdered in PA
     
    LOL Maybe you should spend less time hoping and more time doing even a modicum of research. So lazy

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Gandydancer

    Maybe you should spend less time hoping and more time doing even a modicum of research. So lazy

    On the contrary, posting what AnotherDad did here IS a form or research. Expecting any answer except snark from someone as ignorant as you would obviously be hopeless, but not everyone posting here is like that.

    • Troll: ScarletNumber
  213. @Reg Cæsar
    Vance forever?

    There is no limit* on how many times one can serve as Vice President. George Clinton and John Calhoun each served under more than one President. One could imagine a scenario in which a party keeps switching Presidents while retaining the same VP, who'd have the real power. Some recent VPs almost seem designed to fit that bill-- Rockefeller, Bush I, Cheney, Biden, Pence. However, the Deep State apparently prefers someone less obvious than a VP to fill that role. Certainly Kamala is no Cheney.

    *Obama, Dubya, and that other Clinton cannot serve as Vice President anymore, as they are now ineligible for the Presidency.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Art Deco, @Gandydancer

    Some recent VPs almost seem designed to fit that bill– Rockefeller, Bush I, Cheney, Biden, Pence
    ==
    They almost seem that way to someone quite disoriented.

  214. @Anon
    Yeah, Biden's not leaving. This is a guy who ran for president unsuccessfully several times, and now that he's won the lottery prize, they're asking him to get rid of it. There's no way in heck he's going to do that. The Democrats don't understand his mentality. Biden really, really, wants to be the most important guy in the room.

    Biden's father lost his money and they were poor for a while, which must have absolutely humiliated Biden. Biden's first wife essentially committed suicide and tried to take her kids with her. Biden's eldest son died prematurely. Biden's younger son is a disgrace.

    Winning the presidency and clinging to it makes Biden feel like he's a winner who is important in life, and not someone whose life is actually a trainwreck, a disastrous, lower-class soap opera. Biden is a chucklehead who is an expert at denying and ignoring inconvenient facts, but what's really pathetic is that even his presidency is a trainwreck that he's in denial about.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Frau Katze, @QCIC, @Moshe Def, @Jack D, @Art Deco

    Biden’s father lost his money and they were poor for a while, which must have absolutely humiliated Biden.
    ==
    He didn’t. His father was on the patronage of some flush cousins who were government contractors. The cousins’ situation imploded when they were sued and prosecuted for bilking. All this happened when Biden was too young to remember anything. Biden pere was a salesman his whole life, although he had for a time other business interests. Granddaddy Biden was an office manager employed by Amoco.
    ==
    Biden’s first wife essentially committed suicide and tried to take her kids with her
    ==
    She ran a stop sign and was t-boned by an oncoming truck.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    You're right that Biden was too young to remember anything but in his childhood he would come across hints of fallen grandeur like finding his father's polo riding clothes in the attic. This led him to the mentality that the Bidens weren't really working class zhlubs like they appeared to be, but rather temporarily inconvenienced royalty who would someday be restored to their rightful station. Whether this was true or not (it wasn't) is not really important - the lies that Biden tells are to convince himself as much as they are to convince anyone else.

    For his home, Biden bought a broken down mansion rather than a more modest home in good condition for the same price, for the same reason.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  215. @Anonymous
    Trump heaped a lot of praise on the Secret Service, and it was obvious with their heavy all-male presence around Trump at the RNC that it was itself partly PR in an attempt to repair their image.

    Secret Service should’ve worried about who they were recruiting years ago. Remember this story?


    Secret Service agent under fire after posting she wouldn't take bullet for Trump

    Steph Solis
    USA TODAY
    Jan. 24, 2017

    The Secret Service is "taking appropriate action" after a special agent wrote a Facebook post suggesting she wouldn't take a bullet for Donald Trump if he were president.

    A Secret Service spokesperson confirmed that the agency was aware of Facebook posts made by special agent Kerry O'Grady, but wouldn't elaborate on them further because it is a personnel matter…

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/25/01/3C7A82B400000578-0-image-a-40_1485307882627.jpg

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/01/24/secret-service-agent-kerry-o-grady-social-media-posts/97015422/

     

    The Navy SEALs and other U.S. special forces don’t allow women in their ranks. Crazy that the protective detail of the U.S. president has women. What a mistake.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Bill Jones, @Gandydancer

    Are you sure that’s a woman? Looks like a tranny.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Gandydancer


    Are you sure that’s a woman? Looks like a tranny.
     
    That's ridiculous. She looks like a woman. Totally Adam's Apple free. Not the most girly, feminine woman in the World, but a woman who was wouldn't join the Secret Service. Mind you, even those woman who try to butch-up for traditionally masculine jobs don't seem to be very good at them. They seem to view masculinity as just a pose, when actually it is a fundamental trait of the male sex.

    You sound kinda like commenter "Truth", who thinks that every woman is a tranny. Do you think that Michell Obama is really "Big Mike"?

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    , @Gordo
    @Gandydancer

    A tranny would have been taller and therefore more able to shield Trump.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

  216. @George
    The Hulk might have consulted with his legal council, or maybe Peter Theil's legal council, before appearing at RNC, I believe Terry Gene Bollea claimed that since he no longer was performing the Hulk Hogan character he was no longer a 'public figure' so Gawker media's coverage of his sex life was, I guess, harassment, So I believe headlining the RNC as Hulk Hogan is inconsistent with being a non Hulk Hogan private citizen, aka Terry Gene "not Hulk Hogan" Bollea. Mr Bollea could regret his return to the character, I believe, he claimed was defunct,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollea_v._Gawker

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    “… Mr Bollea could regret his return to the character ..”

    Seems very unlikely. The case is long over. According to your own link

    “On November 2, 2016, Gawker Media and Bollea reached a $31 million settlement. As a result of the settlement, Gawker forwent its appeal ..”

  217. @Art Deco
    @Anon

    Biden’s father lost his money and they were poor for a while, which must have absolutely humiliated Biden.
    ==
    He didn't. His father was on the patronage of some flush cousins who were government contractors. The cousins' situation imploded when they were sued and prosecuted for bilking. All this happened when Biden was too young to remember anything. Biden pere was a salesman his whole life, although he had for a time other business interests. Granddaddy Biden was an office manager employed by Amoco.
    ==
    Biden’s first wife essentially committed suicide and tried to take her kids with her
    ==
    She ran a stop sign and was t-boned by an oncoming truck.

    Replies: @Jack D

    You’re right that Biden was too young to remember anything but in his childhood he would come across hints of fallen grandeur like finding his father’s polo riding clothes in the attic. This led him to the mentality that the Bidens weren’t really working class zhlubs like they appeared to be, but rather temporarily inconvenienced royalty who would someday be restored to their rightful station. Whether this was true or not (it wasn’t) is not really important – the lies that Biden tells are to convince himself as much as they are to convince anyone else.

    For his home, Biden bought a broken down mansion rather than a more modest home in good condition for the same price, for the same reason.

    • Thanks: Corn
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    There wasn't any fallen grandeur. His father grew up in a middle class home and built an affluent bourgeois life for his children. There was a brief period when his father lived large on his cousins' money.
    ==
    Neither the Bidens nor the Finnegans were 'working class schlubs'. Both grandfathers held supervisory jobs in offices and papa made good coin selling cars real estate. There have been working class shlubs in big time Democratic politics - John Edwards (to a degree), Tom Harkin, Jesse Jackson, Richard Gephardt, Gary Hart, Edmund Muskie - but Biden was not one of them.
    ==
    What's amusing is that Biden in 1987 appropriated Neil Kinnock's entire family history and tried to pass himself off as a descendant of coal miners. You have to go back to the late 19th century to find hourly employees in his pedigree (and in his case, it's railway workers, not coal miners).

  218. @Jack D
    @Anon


    Biden’s first wife essentially committed suicide and tried to take her kids with her.
     
    Biden slanders the truck driver by saying that he was at fault when he wasn't. It does no good to slander Biden back by saying that his wife committed suicide (in some versions because he was having affairs). There is no proof for this either.

    By all accounts it was a tragic accident like many road accidents. His wife was the "at fault" party (unlike what Biden says) but there is zero proof that she intentionally caused the accident. The truck was going down the highway at full speed and had the right of way at an intersection and she was at a stop sign and pulled out in front of him and was T-boned and hit hard with no time for the truck driver to stop in time. Perhaps one of the kids was being annoying or doing something dangerous and she was distracted by that (not to blame the kids who were babies) . Perhaps she didn't see the truck for some reason or misjudged the distance. T-bone accidents happen all the time and they are not usually suicide. This is why 2 way stop signs have been replaced either by traffic lights or by 4 way stops in many places.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @J.Ross

    “… This is why 2 way stop signs have been replaced either by traffic lights ..”

    There is now a light at the intersection. By one account:

    “In that interview, Herlihy said Neilia Biden either accelerated or drifted through the intersection, and Dunn could not stop. The truck driver said she was not looking at him, her face turned away, and the state police thought she was distracted by one of the children in the back seat. ”

    • Replies: @Gordo
    @James B. Shearer

    Which brings to mind for a British person the death of Liberal Party leader Jeremy Thorpe’s first wife.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

  219. @HA
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    I'll start with CageyBeast:

    "...waiting 8, 16 or 26 hours for my post to appear..."

    If it's any consolation, your craven link-free admission that you're not gonna even bother answering got approved quick enough, as did the other followups. You know, maybe if you actually bothered to put some effort into making a post with links and evidence, you'd get approved faster, but I guess we'll never know, eh?

    "And this is a report on testimony from CrowdStrike’s president of services..."

    Now, on to Jus' Saying, i.e. the reply of someone who did actually bother to provide to link -- i.e. not as lame as what CageyBeast put together -- BUT APPARENTLY DIDN'T READ TO THE END OF HIS OWN LINK. Rookie mistake, that, though again, it shows at least some effort. I'll do everyone the favor of posting that last bit here:


    Since publication, CrowdStrike has responded and issued a statement for inclusion in this article.

    CrowdStrike Statement of Response:

    The suggestion that CrowdStrike ‘had no proof’ of the data being exfiltrated is INCORRECT. [emphasis added] Shawn Henry clearly said in his testimony that CrowdStrike HAD indicators of exfiltration ( page 32 of the testimony) and circumstantial evidence (page 75) that indicated the data had been exfiltrated. Also, please note that the Senate Intelligence Committee in April 2020 issued a report (https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume4.pdf/) validating the previous conclusions of the Intelligence community that Russia was behind the DNC data breach.
     

    I.e., the statement that CrowdStrike had backtracked or admitted it had no evidence involves tendentious omissions and twisting. In that sense, it's like your own comment, which conspicuously omits CrowdStrike's response/rebuttal.

    CrowdStrike therefore still maintains that they do have proof (and again, my first link post-dates the above article, and as far as I can tell, that is their official position to this day). As to whatever Wikileaks "insinuates", that's another rabbit hole altogether. If that's going to sway you, you might as well listen to what OJ "insinuates" about the real killers of Nicole Brown Simpson, since our system of "justice" declared he himself was "not guilty" of the deed.

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...

    CrowdStrike therefore still maintains that they do have proof (and again, my first link post-dates the above article, and as far as I can tell, that is their official position to this day).

    I’ll put more faith in a statement made under oath by a man facing possible perjury charges than I will in a later, self-serving assertion by some, repudiating that man’s testimony.

    It’s your privilege to do otherwise.

    Overall, the dimocrat managed hearings were intended to promulgate the Russiagate hoax. Little glimmers of truth did seem to appear when minority members were allowed to question witnesses.

    • Thanks: Gordo
    • Replies: @HA
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    "I'’ll put more faith in a statement made under oath by a man facing possible perjury charges..."

    So you'll put "more faith", as you say, in the very statement I explicitly quoted from YOUR OWN LINK that stipulates:


    Henry clearly said IN HIS TESTIMONY that CrowdStrike HAD indicators of exfiltration ( page 32 of the testimony)
     
    Glad we're clear on that. A direct apology would have been far more honest, but I suspect that'd be asking for too much.

    I guess, by extension, you might also be willing to listen to a Russian hacker who ACTUALLY TAKES CREDIT for the DNC hacking, even after being incarcerated in a court that is none too pleased with him? Nah, who are we kidding? Let me guess -- you've got something up your sleeve that makes his testimony totally worthless, am I right?


    ...Born in the Russian city of Sverdlovsk (now Yekaterinburg), Kozlovsky rose to prominence primarily by hacking Russia’s financial institutions. He is one of 50 members of a hacker group called Lurk, which successfully hacked “all of Russia’s banks,” according to Group-IB, a cybersecurity company based in Moscow. Kozlovsky was been in prison for almost a year and eight months....

    Back in December, Kozlovsky first claimed his role in hacking the DNC amid the heated U.S. primary season in 2016, saying he was acting on the orders of Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB), the country’s counterintelligence agency that has retained the ethos and global ambitions of the Soviet era....
     

  220. @Mr. Anon
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality


    In general, the convention was a mix of goofball boomer cuckoldry combined with a glimmers of something better.
     
    They even managed to bring out one of the last living WWII vets in a final act of Greatest Generation worship/envy and paraded him on the speaking platform as if he were a museum piece. Nazi, Nazi, Nazi (nobody ever calls them "Germans" anymore, as the actual generation that fought that war did most of the time). Did we mention we beat the Nazis! (Don't mention the Red Army). USA! USA! USA!

    I believe JD Vance said America wasn’t an “idea”, it’s an actual people.
     
    He said it was more than "just an idea". But still, that's better than I've heard from any other American politician. It was novel that he actually stated what is obviously true that America is a people and a nation. Well, it was once, anyway. Maybe not anymore. I would like to see that whole "America is an idea", "America is an experiment", and the rest, buried in an unmarked grave.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Gandydancer

    Nazi, Nazi, Nazi (nobody ever calls them “Germans” anymore, as the actual generation that fought that war did most of the time).

    Is this just your impression or do you have data on this? My impression is different. It certainly seems to me that the swastika was more prominent in anti-German propaganda images than your claim would suggest.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Gandydancer


    Is this just your impression or do you have data on this? My impression is different. It certainly seems to me that the swastika was more prominent in anti-German propaganda images than your claim would suggest.
     
    Well, given that it was on their flag, yeah. Do I have data on it? No. What data could I possible have? What data do you have?

    It is my impression - the impression of somebody who lived in an era when WWII veterans were still thick on the ground, including among my own relatives, and when WWII movies made in the couple decades after the war were still airing on television. It's not that the term "Nazi" was never used, but it was not used exclusively as it largely seems to be now.

    That generation - the generation of men that actually fought the war on the allied side - had a much more nuanced, less comic-book-like version of the events of that time. They even admired German soldiers, sailors, and airmen as brave and capable warriors, even though they despised the regime they fought for. They read biographies about them.

    Replies: @Corn, @Anonymous, @Gandydancer, @Colinsky

  221. @Jack D
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Alternatively, the Republicans are going after blacks and young people. Candace Owens is the sort of black person who is appealing to older white voters, not other black and young people. And to people who don't get the vapors when someone like Amber Rose appears on the stage.

    The idea of the convention is to make Republicans appear to be a big tent and not something that is just for white Christians who are already voting for them anyway.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    They’ve been trying this big tent inclusivity strategy for over 30 yrs. It has failed. Period.

    Getting a sizable percentage of the black vote is like trying to find the mythical city of gold, or Prester John’s kingdom. It simply doesn’t exist.

    Dare say that the GOP leaders don’t believe that they can win a sizable share of the black vote anymore, if they ever truly did. They make noises about it in order to: Get the MSM off their backs for being racists; try and convince their prole voters that the GOP really is an inclusive party.

    No one’s buying it. They never bought it. Convention after convention, they trot out these blacks and give them a platform on the stage to speak, and STILL they get no credit by the MSM or from black voters. They don’t like their policies, which they feel adversely affect them.

    Because if you end Affirmative Action, quotas, DEI, and not go along with Reparations, then black voters on masse think that GOP doesn’t push their issues. Not sure they really think that the GOP is racist per se; its more “They don’t care about our issues, and policies that directly affect us.”

    But then, Trump in 2020 offered them the Platinum Plan, a litany of a whole lot of concrete policies that blacks have said that they want and care about…and STILL they didn’t vote for him.

    The GOP is basically wasting their time pandering to black voters. They aren’t going to vote for the GOP in any significant percentages. It’s a waste of time and one that has been going on for over half a century.

    You don’t see the Democrats pandering to get white Christians who are strongly pro-life, favor a significant religious presence in the public realm, et etc. They know that there’s no votes for them to get in that space.

    Basically the GOP should learn from their mistakes about pandering and move on. Maybe try to get some more Hispanics to vote for them, at least there they might have a legitimate chance of increasing their share of the Hispanic vote.

  222. @HA
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    "Trump was essentially correct that Russia was NOT behind the whole 'Russia hacked the voting machines and caused Hillary to lose the election.'”

    That's just more tendentious link-free assertions on your part and not relevant to the INCORRECT claim that CrowdStrike admitted it had no evidence of what they asserted. Same goes for smoke-screen tactics and tu quoque games with however much our own spies/hackers meddle with Russian politics, or NordStream, let alone Russia hacking the voting machines. Desperate much? You look like a scared squid frantically squirting ink over everything while swimming away.

    The old "yeah, but what about THIS?" approach to weaseling out of a failed line of "reasoning" is a tactic that is much beloved by all conspiracy theorists -- there's always another twist in their narrative that allows them to conveniently avoid admitting that yet another of their flimsy arguments has been shredded to pieces -- but it's not gonna impress anyone who has dealt with you lot before.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Uh, NO, I brought up an entirely different point, which apparently sailed, zoomed way over your head. I brought up an entirely different matter, to which you apparently were obtuse to see that it was another topic that was brought up. I moved on to another topic, pure and simple.

    What I STATED was that Russia did NOT hack US voting machines and causing Hillary to lose the election. Honestly, only a seven yr old is that f’ed up to believe such a lie. Just as only an f’ed person or devious, or simply part of the Deep State putting out the propaganda talking points, still clings to the Russia blew up its own pipelines, or it was a small Ukrainian sailboat that did the work.

    Whether one wants to admit it or not, Hillary lost the election in 16. Period. It was not due to nefarious plot by Russia. Honestly, the hubris of the Deep State, D/GOP, government is so offputting.

    You’re no longer being funny, HA HA HA.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @HA
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    "Uh, NO, I brought up an entirely different point, ..."

    Yeah. As in deflecting, shifting the goalposts, tossing in a few red herrings and other non sequiturs, and in short, spewing ink all around. Glad we're clear on that (or as clear as you're willing to be).

    "What I STATED was that Russia did NOT hack US voting machines and causing Hillary to lose the election."

    Which is, as you yourself noted, has nothing whatsoever to do with whether CrowdStrike "admits" or "admitted" that it had no evidence that the DNC emails were exfiltrated.

    Moreover, you're mashing up a lot of stuff together again. As to what Russia was able to achieve with regard to voting machines, there's more to the story. It's not a lot, but even that one link is, I'd wager, a lot more authoritative than your link-free assertions to the contrary. To wit:


    To this day, no one knows definitively what happened with Durham’s poll books. And one important fact about the incident still worries election integrity activists three years later: VR Systems had been targeted by Russian hackers in a phishing campaign three months before the election. The hackers had sent malicious emails both to VR Systems and to some of its election customers, attempting to trick the recipients into revealing usernames and passwords for their email accounts. The Russians had also visited VR Systems’ website, presumably looking for vulnerabilities they could use to get into the company’s network, as the hackers had done with Illinois’ state voter registration system months earlier.

    VR Systems has long insisted that none of its employees fell for the Russian phishing scam and that none of its systems were hacked.

     

    I myself would characterize all that as "weak sauce", but again, that's neither here nor there since I didn't even mention it. Moreover, I try to be consistent about stuff like that and therefore don't go around screaming about how the election in which Trump subsequently lost was stolen. Would that the rest of the unz-dot-com commenters could claim the same.

    And as to whether any of that was enough to sway the election -- as opposed to Hillary's own bungling -- that is yet another different ball of wax. I myself very much doubt it was, based on what I've seen, but again, it's neither here nor there. Same goes for whether any of that is any different than what US hackers try to do in places like Russia, or any other related set of questions you might throw up to get over your bitter disappointment that the CrowdStrike "admission" claim went nowhere. Do try and be little clearer next time.


    "You’re no longer being funny, HA HA HA."

    Given that you're the one I'm laughing at, I'm not surprised you're not all that amused. You're providing more than enough comedy for the both of us.

  223. @Old Prude
    A couple other observations: Scarce applause for Pompeo’s trashing of Putin, and Tucker Carlson was hopped-up on coke.

    Replies: @Anon87, @Mark G.

    Tucker was jacked on Zyn, he’s very open about it.

  224. Trump, describing the assassination [sic], lied blatantly thus:

    “I moved my right hand to my ear, brought it down. My hand was covered in blood. Just absolutely blood all over the place.”

    The iconic staged photo-op clearly shows a fist-pumping right hand immaculately free of blood, dirt, or grime. Trump bladed himself.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Adam Smith
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    https://i.ibb.co/CM8Ht87/Trump-s-Hand-After-Attack-on-His-Ear.jpg

  225. @Linus
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    That and the head tat whore made me wonder what exactly we are conserving.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Yngvar, @Gandydancer

    That and the head tat whore made me wonder what exactly we are conserving.

    I had no idea who this person was and from your description assumed she had tats on her face or skull. But it seems she has them on her arms and shoulders and, when I duckduckgo’d the images of “amber rose at rnc” it appeared that she kept those covered and didn’t serve as propaganda for doing it by anyone else. Which, being an old fart, I wouldn’t care for.

    I didn’t watch the RNC and don’t much care for the WWE cartoon as a face of the GOP either, but there’s no accounting tastes. I’ll anyway vote for Trump to keep the (D)’s out, not to conserve anything, so “Are there votes in it?” is the only question.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Gandydancer

    Look at her hairline.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

  226. @John Johnson
    @Jack D

    Candace Owens is the sort of black person who is appealing to older white voters, not other black and young people.

    That's not it at all.

    It's LOOK WE FOUND A BLACKISH WOMAN and she has a face tattoo which gives her street cred.

    The idea of the convention is to make Republicans appear to be a big tent and not something that is just for white Christians who are already voting for them anyway.

    They definitely have a big tent

    https://grosh.com/wp-content/uploads/Circus_backdrop_ES79302-1.jpg

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    She’s 80% white. She doesn’t have to try and pass for being white. She basically is white. The GOP used a photo of her at the convention and she’s almost as light as Taylor Swift. Amber DOES have to try and pass for being biracial, hence the dark makeup during her speech.

    In this situation, it really isn’t that complicated. She met Trump a few months ago, and posed for a picture with him. She has publicly supported him for a few months now. Trump found out and told the convention organizers “Get her to speak at the convention, and give her a primetime platform.”

    In this case it isn’t any more complicated. She’s his type. The camera panned to him during her speech, he clearly was interested in her verbal fellatio of him during her speech.

    Also, just state the truth. She’s his type. What was that recent NY lawsuit over? A porn star. This isn’t any different than Bill Clinton, except that the MSM for the most part, has run interference and protection for him for decades.

    Daresay that Bill Clinton watched her speech as well, and was thinking “Day-um! The Donald sure does get a finer grade of hoe than I got during my administration. I’d hit that if I could.”

    It’s simple. Trump wanted her to speak at the convention and in a prime time slot. She’s his type. He fancies her. End of story, it’s not any more complicated than that. And most in the political world behind the scenes already know that. Has nothing to do with getting votes in new places. After all, what the hell were Hulk Hogan and Dana White doing at the convention speaking on the stage? Because Trump wanted it that way. Same thing.

    If Brandi Love had played her cards right, she too would’ve been given a prime time slot at the convention. Brandi’s mistake is that she didn’t go directly to Trump himself and try and win him over.

    There’s really no difference between Brandi and Amber Rose. One’s just a little sharper on how to market herself to the mainstream and to get herself a new grift in order to stay relevant.

  227. @J.Ross
    @epebble

    They've been saying this for days, which confirms that they're still stuck in their misreading of how meme magic works: Joe/Jill aren't going anywhere and the handlers are trying to meme them out.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    Joe/Jill aren’t going anywhere and the handlers are trying to meme them out.

    What does this even mean? “Meme” is a perfectly good word to refer to phenomena like “Where’s the beef!?” I despise seeing it destroyed by misuse.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Gandydancer

    You haven't seen Dan Gabriel's powerpoint presentation. We're not going to talk about NAFO but this is pretty much how NAFO came about. Tldr in 2016 Our Leaders discovered 4chan and completely misunderstood how it worked, to rediscover the "whispering campaign." Meme magic works when several people are pretty much already on the same page about something and they begin a kind of pseudo-telepathy. They seem to communicate faster than instantly, the ideas flow -- because they're all on the same page already. So it's less like magic and more like an especially productive business meeting. Well, Green Zone denizens in their illegitimacy and confusion decided that it meant they could repetitively shout their way to rewriting laws of physics -- these are the same retards and the same retardation as that W-era "making reality" idea. This is why Western propaganda is so ineffective: the people making it decided that there are no rules.
    So Democrats are trying to get Biden out using Tinkerbell CPR, and it's working about as well as NAFO trannies trying to defeat Russia using doge.
    Our elites are stupid.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Gandydancer

  228. @Jack D
    @Anon


    Biden’s first wife essentially committed suicide and tried to take her kids with her.
     
    Biden slanders the truck driver by saying that he was at fault when he wasn't. It does no good to slander Biden back by saying that his wife committed suicide (in some versions because he was having affairs). There is no proof for this either.

    By all accounts it was a tragic accident like many road accidents. His wife was the "at fault" party (unlike what Biden says) but there is zero proof that she intentionally caused the accident. The truck was going down the highway at full speed and had the right of way at an intersection and she was at a stop sign and pulled out in front of him and was T-boned and hit hard with no time for the truck driver to stop in time. Perhaps one of the kids was being annoying or doing something dangerous and she was distracted by that (not to blame the kids who were babies) . Perhaps she didn't see the truck for some reason or misjudged the distance. T-bone accidents happen all the time and they are not usually suicide. This is why 2 way stop signs have been replaced either by traffic lights or by 4 way stops in many places.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @J.Ross

    There is abundant proof of why his wife might have been driven to this extreme, but you are technically correct that we don’t know for sure.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @J.Ross

    "There is abundant proof of why his wife might have been driven to this extreme, ..."

    Suppose the wife was under stress of some kind. That is the sort of thing that causes you to get in auto accidents because you are thinking about something else and not paying attention. And as long as we are baselessly speculating perhaps it was the wife who drank her lunch or was otherwise impaired (prescription drugs?). I wonder if she was tested. Anyway a murder suicide of that sort is really rare which means a lot of evidence is required to make it the most likely explanation.

  229. @anonymous
    @Mark G.

    Very hard to imagine fighting Iran, Russia, and China at the same time. It's setting the military up for failure.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon, @Jonathan Mason

    Very hard to imagine fighting Iran, Russia, and China at the same time. It’s setting the military up for failure.

    Maybe that’s the idea. What happens when the business goes under? You torch the place, collect the insurance, and move on to the next opportunity.

    Perhaps TPTB, The New World Order, whatever you might choose to call them, have decided to transfer the flag to China. For nearly a hundred years, the USA has been the global elite’s muscle. They seem to have been grooming China to take over that task.

  230. @Gandydancer
    @J.Ross


    Joe/Jill aren’t going anywhere and the handlers are trying to meme them out.
     
    What does this even mean? "Meme" is a perfectly good word to refer to phenomena like "Where's the beef!?" I despise seeing it destroyed by misuse.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    You haven’t seen Dan Gabriel’s powerpoint presentation. We’re not going to talk about NAFO but this is pretty much how NAFO came about. Tldr in 2016 Our Leaders discovered 4chan and completely misunderstood how it worked, to rediscover the “whispering campaign.” Meme magic works when several people are pretty much already on the same page about something and they begin a kind of pseudo-telepathy. They seem to communicate faster than instantly, the ideas flow — because they’re all on the same page already. So it’s less like magic and more like an especially productive business meeting. Well, Green Zone denizens in their illegitimacy and confusion decided that it meant they could repetitively shout their way to rewriting laws of physics — these are the same retards and the same retardation as that W-era “making reality” idea. This is why Western propaganda is so ineffective: the people making it decided that there are no rules.
    So Democrats are trying to get Biden out using Tinkerbell CPR, and it’s working about as well as NAFO trannies trying to defeat Russia using doge.
    Our elites are stupid.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @J.Ross

    What’s NAFO? The W-era? Tinkerbell CPR?

    What a cryptic post.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @HA

    , @Gandydancer
    @J.Ross

    I agree with Frau Katze that I found your post unintelligible, though I did briefly look up what NAFO was, though it didn't inspire me to do more than determine that it is apparently something. But's it's not responsive to my point, except to prove it, which is that I find the wider use of the word "meme" generally meaningless and useless and an obstacle to clear communication. I remember when someone referred to the "Ghost of Kyiv" as a "meme", and I couldn't see any use to characterizing that lie as anything other than just a fraud.

    Examples of the unintelligible gassing-on that I'm objecting to: Nothing is "faster than instantly". There is no such thing as telepathy, so what is the point of a term like "pseudo telepathy"? What do the laws of physics have to do with anything? What is "defeating Russia using doge" supposed to mean?

    If you want to communicate anything to me just use plain English. That's what words are for.

  231. @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    There is abundant proof of why his wife might have been driven to this extreme, but you are technically correct that we don't know for sure.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    “There is abundant proof of why his wife might have been driven to this extreme, …”

    Suppose the wife was under stress of some kind. That is the sort of thing that causes you to get in auto accidents because you are thinking about something else and not paying attention. And as long as we are baselessly speculating perhaps it was the wife who drank her lunch or was otherwise impaired (prescription drugs?). I wonder if she was tested. Anyway a murder suicide of that sort is really rare which means a lot of evidence is required to make it the most likely explanation.

  232. @Gandydancer
    @Mr. Anon


    Nazi, Nazi, Nazi (nobody ever calls them “Germans” anymore, as the actual generation that fought that war did most of the time).
     
    Is this just your impression or do you have data on this? My impression is different. It certainly seems to me that the swastika was more prominent in anti-German propaganda images than your claim would suggest.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Is this just your impression or do you have data on this? My impression is different. It certainly seems to me that the swastika was more prominent in anti-German propaganda images than your claim would suggest.

    Well, given that it was on their flag, yeah. Do I have data on it? No. What data could I possible have? What data do you have?

    It is my impression – the impression of somebody who lived in an era when WWII veterans were still thick on the ground, including among my own relatives, and when WWII movies made in the couple decades after the war were still airing on television. It’s not that the term “Nazi” was never used, but it was not used exclusively as it largely seems to be now.

    That generation – the generation of men that actually fought the war on the allied side – had a much more nuanced, less comic-book-like version of the events of that time. They even admired German soldiers, sailors, and airmen as brave and capable warriors, even though they despised the regime they fought for. They read biographies about them.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
    • Replies: @Corn
    @Mr. Anon


    That generation – the generation of men that actually fought the war on the allied side – had a much more nuanced, less comic-book-like version of the events of that time. They even admired German soldiers, sailors, and airmen as brave and capable warriors, even though they despised the regime they fought for. They read biographies about them.
     
    Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe there were multiple instances from ca. 1950-1990 where ex German Army officers, maybe even some SS veterans, were invited to West Point to lecture on combat tactics, maneuver warfare etc.
    , @Anonymous
    @Mr. Anon


    That generation – the generation of men that actually fought the war on the allied side – had a much more nuanced, less comic-book-like version of the events of that time. They even admired German soldiers, sailors, and airmen as brave and capable warriors, even though they despised the regime they fought for.
     
    If they despised “the regime,” it was due to jewish/Allied/Soviet propaganda. Patton wouldn’t have said we fought on the wrong side if he thought “the Holocaust” had really happened.
    , @Gandydancer
    @Mr. Anon


    Do I have data on it? No. What data could I possible have? What data do you have?
     
    I'm not the one who made the claim. And my impression is as good as yours. But I'm glad we clarified that your statement was based on nothing tangible.

    What is your impression of when this transition took place?

    Yes, the swastika was on the German flag. But the swastika used in propaganda posters was not usually on a flag. And I've been a history buff for almost 60 years and the instances of my hearing soldiers calling the Germans "Nazis" instead of "Germans" in memoirs and oral histories are innumerable. Maybe less for "good Germans" like, say, Rommel (despite his history in LAH!) but no, I haven't seen any increase in calling Germans of the time "Nazis". Maybe the opposite.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @Colinsky
    @Mr. Anon

    We admired WW2 Germans so much that we put one in charge of our space program.

  233. @Gandydancer
    @Anonymous

    Are you sure that's a woman? Looks like a tranny.
    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/25/01/3C7A82B400000578-0-image-a-40_1485307882627.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Gordo

    Are you sure that’s a woman? Looks like a tranny.

    That’s ridiculous. She looks like a woman. Totally Adam’s Apple free. Not the most girly, feminine woman in the World, but a woman who was wouldn’t join the Secret Service. Mind you, even those woman who try to butch-up for traditionally masculine jobs don’t seem to be very good at them. They seem to view masculinity as just a pose, when actually it is a fundamental trait of the male sex.

    You sound kinda like commenter “Truth”, who thinks that every woman is a tranny. Do you think that Michell Obama is really “Big Mike”?

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Mr. Anon


    That’s ridiculous. She looks like a woman. Totally Adam’s Apple free.
     
    No, it's not. I don't really think she[?] is a tranny, but I've totally seen trannys who look more feminine than her[?]. Are you sure your sources of info on this would give you the straight skinny if she[?] were?? Quite apart from the ideology that she[?] would totally be a woman even if she[?] still had a dingle in her[?] pants counting her[?] as that would be very convenient for meeting goals and timetables. Wake up and smell the coffee, it's the 21st Century.

    Do you think that Michell Obama is really “Big Mike”?
     
    Nah, I don't buy into any of the "evidence" I've seen for that. Big woman, but her brother is bigger. And I don't think her kids are cuckoos.
  234. @Harry Baldwin
    @AnotherDad

    Why not actually watch the speech before commenting on it?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Tom F., @Gandydancer

    Why not actually watch the speech before commenting on it?

    Because it’s a waste of attention, time, and brain cells. What’s said only matters to the extent that it is repeated ad nauseam in other channels.

  235. @AnotherDad
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    No one is naming the Jew, therefore nothing serious or substantial will get done. As usual.

    Can’t have a real country or a real politics, if you can’t or won’t identify its real mortal enemies.
     

    Disagree.

    I'm upfront that I think the minoritarian cancer is basically Jewish ideology, pushed and propagandized to ascendency by American Jews. And that the "scientists" pushing the whole anti-genetic, nurture-uber-alles, ideology** were/are Jews doing political "science" in the service of minoritarianism. (**Basically, that human group differences in intelligence and personality are the sole area in the whole reach of biology unaffected by genes.)


    But there's no need politically to run around "naming the Jew". No, you simply attack the bad behavior, bad policies, bad ideology.

    Same as with blacks and crime. You don't "name the black", you denounce crime, call for "law and order" and locking up criminals. If blacks start whining that denouncing crime is attacking blacks, or blacks are more likely to be locked up, you respond "Well then blacks should do better. Stop tolerating criminals in your communities—zero tolerance. Black men should work harder to keep their sons on the straight and narrow—out of gangs, off the criminal path. It's your community, you need to fix it."

    Likewise, you denounce the immigration and open border treason. If some Jews start pointing out that you're naming mostly Jews—ex. Mayorkas, Garland, the "Biden Administration" traitors--and pipe up with their usual "anti-Semite!", you respond the same way: "So you're telling me Jews have a problem being loyal Americans? Putting the interests of their fellow Americans and our posterity first? Well then Jews should do better. Patriotic Jews should work on routing this virus of disloyalty out of their community. It's not like there aren't plenty of Jews—like Stephen Miller—who are patriotic and want to preserve America for Americans and our posterity. Jews should do better and fix it." The media Jews, of course, will squeal like stuck pigs when you say "disloyal". But while Americans are ho-hum philo-Semitic, if Jews starting broadcasting that Jews in fact do find pushing immigration rather than loyalty to the interests of Americans part of their "Jewish identity", that will just cause normie Americans to go "hmm". It's not a winner for Jews.

    Same with anything else. You call for normality, decency, sanity, national loyalty and denounce the destructive people, pushing crime, immivasion, anti-whitism, trannies, anti-family, anti-natalism, cultural depravity etc. If someone wants to pop-up and say "but that's who we are!", you respond "Well then who you are sucks. Do better."

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Colin Wright, @rebel yell, @Jack D

    ‘…But there’s no need politically to run around “naming the Jew”. No, you simply attack the bad behavior, bad policies, bad ideology…’

    But then you wind up with people like Ben Shapiro, or Jennifer Rubin, or the earlier Neo-Cons. They pretend to be on your side, and adopt your slogans — and then turn you to serve their interests.

    And when push comes to shove, it’s always Israel number one, and immigration can be a good thing, and what’s wrong with transgender children? Their version of ‘conservatism’ boils down to supporting wars for Israel and lowering the capital gains tax.

    I say it’s like the flooded basement. You’re not going to get anywhere until you admit that the problem might be the that broken pipe gushing water right over there. It’s right there. See it?

    • Agree: Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Colin Wright

    Problem then is, it's one thing to attempt to fix the problem. The challenge is naming the forces/cause of the problem in the first place.

    "Yeah, it's the---" That's a tough sell in 2024, especially as they tend to own the MSM, Hollywood, most of Social Media, pop culture, academia, etc.

    So how exactly do you proceed to explicitly, straight up, name the problem?

    We has pickle, we does.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  236. @R.G. Camara
    @jb


    The problem is that there is a very good chance he will not be facing Biden in November, in which case this reasoning goes out the window.
     
    Disagree. First, if it helps to knock Biden out, it gives Trump the aura of winning (same as he got in the primaries in 2016 by taking out the big dog, Jeb Bush, first, and then mopping up the littler fish one by one). That means something---momentum turns into inevitability. And if Biden doesn't leave, it does everything I said: makes Trump look presidential and forceful, and shows Biden to be weak.

    Second, it heads off at the pass any attacks the D's will try on Trump for being "old". "Hey our guy was about your age and he was too old to govern, here's our younger person, you should step out like Biden did old man." Trump proved he could go 90 minutes just days after being shot, that logic's not going to dissuade his voters.


    Also: Hulk Hogan?
     
    Hogan's speech was excellent, short, motivating, intelligent, and nostalgic. Every guy over 35 was transported back to his childhood and felt like we were beating the bad guys again. 9/10.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Art Deco

    Even if Biden is somehow persuaded to not run in November, the Dems are still stuck with Kamala.

    How can they get rid of her (a so-called black woman)? She’s also highly unpopular.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    Even if Biden is somehow persuaded to not run in November, the Dems are still stuck with Kamala.

    How can they get rid of her (a so-called black woman)? She’s also highly unpopular.

     

    I agree that the Democrats are better off just resigning themselves to Trump winning in November and letting Biden drive off the cliff -- but dumping him and running Harris does have two potential advantages.

    First off, if something does turn up and the Democrats do win in November, Biden is going to rapidly become worse; he's going to be seriously brain-dead in short order. Victory will be just the start of the Democrat's problems. Harris, on the other hand, at least won't deteriorate; she'll be just as functional in 2028 as she is now.

    Second, as is more likely, if Biden runs and fails, Harris remains a contender for the Democratic nomination in 2028. How do they get rid of her? On the other hand, if they let her take up the standard now, and she goes down to defeat, hopefully they can put her out to pasture.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

  237. @J.Ross
    @Ralph L

    No, according to what I've read it was a reputation-damaging honest coding error. Trying to find a good summary to link here.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

  238. @jb
    @R.G. Camara


    Now, the 4-D chess reason:

    Trump, at age 78, and 5 days removed from being shot, spoke coherently and intelligently for 1.5 hours (93 minutes) from 10:30pm EST to 12am (9:30-11pm CST). Meanwhile, Joe Biden went to bed at 8pm, is down with COVID, missed the speech, and can’t speak coherently for 15 minutes even when not sick.
     
    The problem is that there is a very good chance he will not be facing Biden in November, in which case this reasoning goes out the window.

    Personally I think the man just genuinely has no discipline. I thought the beginning of the speech went well, I gritted my teeth and stuck with it after he went off script and started with the usual rambling bullshit, and finally bailed when he got to the Late Great Hannibal Lecter. WTF? The whole point of the acceptance speech was to win over the sort of people who don't go to his rallies and don't appreciate this sort of thing. I'm sure his handlers understood that perfectly well, and must have been dying inside.

    Probably Vance too. I like Vance, and I think has good intentions, but he's sold his soul for a chance to do some good over the next four years and maybe have a shot at the presidency in 2028. Unlike Trump, he's a grownup, and I assume he knows what he's in for if he wins, but wow! The NYT had a running commentary on Trump's speech, and at one point someone got a text from a Democratic official saying "this is the Trump we were expecting and hoping for!". In fact there were concerns that Trump's speech was so bad that it would dissuade Biden from dropping out! All in all, very disappointing. (Also: Hulk Hogan? Chris Rock? Really???)

    Replies: @jb, @R.G. Camara, @Gandydancer

    In fact there were concerns that Trump’s speech was so bad that it would dissuade Biden from dropping out!

    “Concerns” among who? Damn, I sure hope that the Dems persuade themselves that that is a good idea! Even Kamala gives them a better shot.

    Unfortunately I expect Kamala will be the incumbent long before November.

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Gandydancer


    ,,,I expect Kamala will be the incumbent long before November.
     
    Told you so. From the second I saw the reaction to the debate. As I said I sure hoped the (D)s would stick with Biden, but didn't think even they would be that dumb. Now it's Kamela or bust. I think it will be bust, but one should never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. I thought the (D)s were too repulsive in 2020 to win despite Trump being such weak sauce, but I was wrong about that. It WAS close enough to steal, which was inexcusable.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  239. @Frau Katze
    @R.G. Camara

    Even if Biden is somehow persuaded to not run in November, the Dems are still stuck with Kamala.

    How can they get rid of her (a so-called black woman)? She’s also highly unpopular.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    Even if Biden is somehow persuaded to not run in November, the Dems are still stuck with Kamala.

    How can they get rid of her (a so-called black woman)? She’s also highly unpopular.

    I agree that the Democrats are better off just resigning themselves to Trump winning in November and letting Biden drive off the cliff — but dumping him and running Harris does have two potential advantages.

    First off, if something does turn up and the Democrats do win in November, Biden is going to rapidly become worse; he’s going to be seriously brain-dead in short order. Victory will be just the start of the Democrat’s problems. Harris, on the other hand, at least won’t deteriorate; she’ll be just as functional in 2028 as she is now.

    Second, as is more likely, if Biden runs and fails, Harris remains a contender for the Democratic nomination in 2028. How do they get rid of her? On the other hand, if they let her take up the standard now, and she goes down to defeat, hopefully they can put her out to pasture.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    It’s hard to tell whether the campaign to get Biden to withdraw will work. He seems awfully determined to stay. Still, there’s people trying to convince him.

    With Giggles in the wings, it’s definitely going to be an interesting campaign season.

  240. @R.G. Camara
    @jb


    The problem is that there is a very good chance he will not be facing Biden in November, in which case this reasoning goes out the window.
     
    Disagree. First, if it helps to knock Biden out, it gives Trump the aura of winning (same as he got in the primaries in 2016 by taking out the big dog, Jeb Bush, first, and then mopping up the littler fish one by one). That means something---momentum turns into inevitability. And if Biden doesn't leave, it does everything I said: makes Trump look presidential and forceful, and shows Biden to be weak.

    Second, it heads off at the pass any attacks the D's will try on Trump for being "old". "Hey our guy was about your age and he was too old to govern, here's our younger person, you should step out like Biden did old man." Trump proved he could go 90 minutes just days after being shot, that logic's not going to dissuade his voters.


    Also: Hulk Hogan?
     
    Hogan's speech was excellent, short, motivating, intelligent, and nostalgic. Every guy over 35 was transported back to his childhood and felt like we were beating the bad guys again. 9/10.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Art Deco

    (same as he got in the primaries in 2016 by taking out the big dog, Jeb Bush, first, and then mopping up the littler fish one by one)
    ==
    When Trump declared, Scott Walker’s campaign evaporated in a matter weeks and Bush trailed first Trump and then a mess of others. Bush was never competitive in any venue once actual balloting began. Trump’s competition was Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich; the rest hardly registered. Cruz wasn’t a ‘little fish’. He won 1/4 of the ballots cast in the sum of all states. They weren’t ‘mopped up one by one’. Cruz and Kasich left the race at the same time.

    • Agree: Gandydancer
    • Troll: R.G. Camara
    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @Art Deco

    lol. Nice try on lying there, Jeffrey Goldberg.

    Jeb was the odds-on favorite in 2016. All the neocons and Fox News talking heads were hyping him. Even Greg Gutfeld of Fox News was on board, calling for him because of his "electability." Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich were not the front runners; Jeb, with his successful governorship of Florida (still a swing state then), his Bush dynasty name, and his war chest, was seen by all as the incoming Republican candidate.

    Trump blew that out of the water. Trump's style is not to roll up small victories, but to attack the biggest baddest opponent/problem first and then let the momentum carry him. And that was Jeb. Jeb was totally unprepared for such an attack; he expected that any frontal attack on him would come later once the other lessers had sorted themselves out. Jeb discovered his popularity and enthusiasm was skin-deep and he really didn't have a following strong enough yet to withstand Trump's blows. And the Bush name slowly was revealed to be mud amongst the right who hated endless wars and open borders. Trump's seizing of the immigration issue while Jeb touted his Mexican wife and compassionate conservative/open boders/NAFTA credentials killed him. It led to the infamous moment where Jeb had to beg an audience to "please clap".

    Trump eliminated Jeb first, and the rest were then on notice.

    Now go back to calling Trump Hitler at The Atlantic, being a war mongering war criminal, and working for Mrs. Jobs, the Epstein Island frequent flyer. You are dismissed, liar.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Corvinus

  241. @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    You're right that Biden was too young to remember anything but in his childhood he would come across hints of fallen grandeur like finding his father's polo riding clothes in the attic. This led him to the mentality that the Bidens weren't really working class zhlubs like they appeared to be, but rather temporarily inconvenienced royalty who would someday be restored to their rightful station. Whether this was true or not (it wasn't) is not really important - the lies that Biden tells are to convince himself as much as they are to convince anyone else.

    For his home, Biden bought a broken down mansion rather than a more modest home in good condition for the same price, for the same reason.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    There wasn’t any fallen grandeur. His father grew up in a middle class home and built an affluent bourgeois life for his children. There was a brief period when his father lived large on his cousins’ money.
    ==
    Neither the Bidens nor the Finnegans were ‘working class schlubs’. Both grandfathers held supervisory jobs in offices and papa made good coin selling cars real estate. There have been working class shlubs in big time Democratic politics – John Edwards (to a degree), Tom Harkin, Jesse Jackson, Richard Gephardt, Gary Hart, Edmund Muskie – but Biden was not one of them.
    ==
    What’s amusing is that Biden in 1987 appropriated Neil Kinnock’s entire family history and tried to pass himself off as a descendant of coal miners. You have to go back to the late 19th century to find hourly employees in his pedigree (and in his case, it’s railway workers, not coal miners).

  242. HA says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...
    @HA


    CrowdStrike therefore still maintains that they do have proof (and again, my first link post-dates the above article, and as far as I can tell, that is their official position to this day).
     
    I'll put more faith in a statement made under oath by a man facing possible perjury charges than I will in a later, self-serving assertion by some, repudiating that man's testimony.

    It's your privilege to do otherwise.

    Overall, the dimocrat managed hearings were intended to promulgate the Russiagate hoax. Little glimmers of truth did seem to appear when minority members were allowed to question witnesses.

    Replies: @HA

    “I’’ll put more faith in a statement made under oath by a man facing possible perjury charges…”

    So you’ll put “more faith”, as you say, in the very statement I explicitly quoted from YOUR OWN LINK that stipulates:

    Henry clearly said IN HIS TESTIMONY that CrowdStrike HAD indicators of exfiltration ( page 32 of the testimony)

    Glad we’re clear on that. A direct apology would have been far more honest, but I suspect that’d be asking for too much.

    I guess, by extension, you might also be willing to listen to a Russian hacker who ACTUALLY TAKES CREDIT for the DNC hacking, even after being incarcerated in a court that is none too pleased with him? Nah, who are we kidding? Let me guess — you’ve got something up your sleeve that makes his testimony totally worthless, am I right?

    …Born in the Russian city of Sverdlovsk (now Yekaterinburg), Kozlovsky rose to prominence primarily by hacking Russia’s financial institutions. He is one of 50 members of a hacker group called Lurk, which successfully hacked “all of Russia’s banks,” according to Group-IB, a cybersecurity company based in Moscow. Kozlovsky was been in prison for almost a year and eight months….

    Back in December, Kozlovsky first claimed his role in hacking the DNC amid the heated U.S. primary season in 2016, saying he was acting on the orders of Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB), the country’s counterintelligence agency that has retained the ethos and global ambitions of the Soviet era….

  243. @Colin Wright
    @John Johnson


    ...Where are the strippers and dancing elephants?
     
    That sounds alright. Maybe when J.D. Vance is running in 2028.

    ...I think elephants and dancing strippers might prove more practical, though.

    Replies: @vinteuil

    I tend to doubt that JD Vance, running for President in 2028, will ask any professional wrestlers to speak on his behalf – let alone elephants & dancing strippers.

  244. @Almost Missouri
    @AnotherDad


    they have to either run Kamala or spurn her–a black!, a woman!, a black woman!!!
    ...
    get the Harris debacle over with
     
    I don't quite understand the DNC's aversion to running with Kamala. Yeah okay, she's supposedly a crappy person. As if Backfire Joe wasn't a crappy a person? Their media whores have already demonstrated there's no level of degradation to which they won't stoop to promote whatever narrative asked of them no matter how implausible. And Kamala doesn't come with the Lady Macbeth spouse, coke-addled felony-and-corruption-broadcasting son, and bizarre daughter-showering and child stranger-danger habits. Kamala's already married to her Jewish minder, so they don't have to appoint another embarrassingly kosher kabinet for her. Whatever piece of crap she is, it is less than the crap they've been making everyone else put up with the last four years. Yeah okay, she's a skank who BJed her way up the party ladder. So what? The Dems can look at their base and say, "Hey, we've all been there, right?" and they'll shrug it off, because they have. Kamala's far from perfect, but she looks like all upside compared to where they are now. Yet, there's some stubborn resistance to going with the "black" woman they all insisted was so great four years ago.

    The only way I can figure it is that they can't keep her office staffed because she's such a bitch. But that's probably just because they're letting her choose her own staff and so she chooses B!lack women who are just as bitchy and even more thin-skinned than herself. But if she's President, then she has to accept the cabinet, and I'm sure those guys will have no problem telling her what to do. There's still the problem of her low-IQ vapid speechifying, but after four years of excusing Cadaver Joe's necrotic emissions, Kamala's waftings would be a veritable breath of fresh air. Vacuity is good by comparison.

    It's almost like they just don't want to Celebrate Diversity.

    Replies: @Corn, @Colin Wright, @AnotherDad

    I don’t quite understand the DNC’s aversion to running with Kamala. Yeah okay, she’s supposedly a crappy person. As if Backfire Joe wasn’t a crappy a person?

    I expect that most of the Democrats pushing Joe to retire, realize they’ll be stuck with Kamala.

    It’s almost like they just don’t want to Celebrate Diversity.

    That’s cause diversity–Diversity!–sucks. The Democrats are running up against their “coalition of the fringes” “circular firing squad” problem.

    — Jews. The Jewish money guys call the shots and can setup a candidate like Biden. But it would be just too “on the nose” to have a Jewish guy explicitly running an anti-white a shit show of destruction. Imagine a President Mayorkas? President Garland? The Biden Administration is the most demographically skewed–relative to US population–administration in US history. And it is utterly unmentioned in the press. (Seriously, I think a President Schumer would have been less destructive, because he would not want to make the connection so obvious, and he would have cared more about his own re-election.) Having a shabbos like Biden works better.

    — Blacks. People can vote for a black who seems reasonable, checks the boxes. Obama was a big stroke for “good whites”. But that’s done and no other group actually thinks “black wonderful” or “black competent” or that the presidential ticket must be black all the time. However, blacks have been endlessly coddled by minoritarianism and since Saint George’s OD, the “must have black thing” has been over the top pushing black ego/entitlement up through the roof.

    Black women are running around thinking they are “wise” or possess “black girl magic”. But everyone else thinks more along the lines of DMV lady. Black men really don’t want a black woman bossing them. Mexicans have no use for blacks at all. Asians have generally negative opinions. And it’s mutual, blacks are used to having to vote for whitey outside of explicitly black districts. But they have negative attitudes toward voting for Mexicans or Asians–that’s “cut in line” and “took our spot” territory. The Democrats have a line to tread pandering to their vote bank but can not afford to fall into Steve’s “the black party” trap.

    — Mexicans/Latinos. They are mostly pretty politically quiescent here. And due to the concentration of their numbers in blue states or red states (Texas) they aren’t immediately in the frame. Mexicans matter in Arizona and Nevada, but again are unloved by blacks who matter in almost every other swing state.

    — Asians. The Chinese are boring. The Indians keep popping up everywhere but are unloved. Both seem kind of “foreign”.

    — Muslims. ‘nuf said. Well ok, the obvious: the “immigration forever!” the Jews pushed inevitably means they’ll be more Muslims than Jews in the US eventually. (Kaganovitch’s heroic efforts notwithstanding.) At some point the Parasites might not even be a Jewish party. In the interim they have to do “stay apart!”

    — White women. LOL. They are the Parasite Party’s biggest vote bank and they are everywhere trying to run everything, full of very definite opinions–which are exactly in line with whatever they heard on the View or the morning shows. Since Jewish second wave feminism taught them that they are oppressed, they’ve A) have a chip on their shoulder about being heard and B) know–you go girl–that they should be running things and everything would be better if they did. It’s a very, very feminized party and they provide the critical votes, so they’re sort of right.

    There’s only one problem. No one likes white women. Specifically these political you-go-girl church ladies. Very specifically no one is enamored by the thought of being led by a white woman President and being finger wagged and dictated to by her. The soy boys will dutifully vote for them. Most white men–even “progressives” would rather not–would rather have a guy. Black men definitely would not. And even black women have no use for them.

    But white women think they should be running the show. At least half the time. That a woman should always be on the ticket. And just on the bottom, but woman on top.

    ~~

    Sort through it all and again and again you come back to the same thing … the best presidential candidate for the anti-white, anti-male “diversity!” party is a straight white gentile male! They seem ho-hum, they don’t scare the (white) horses and do not stoke the intra-coalition-of-the-fringes ethnic conflicts.

    • Agree: OilcanFloyd
    • Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @AnotherDad

    A 16th CE Chinese scholar-official wrote a letter to a corrupt decadent emperor-- stating that he's a piece of shit. But if he gets his act together he can become a sage emperor ascribed in the classics.

    The emperor read the letter and went apeshit. Ordering the eunuchs to "Catch this man, don't let him get away!"

    The eunuch official replied: "Your majesty, this man is an idiot. He's waiting at home and has already prepared a casket."

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/%E6%B5%B7%E7%91%9E.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hai_Rui

    If your ideas are so brilliant go publish them under your real name. What do you have to lose?

    No. You trash your own women under anonymous handle and act like you are some tough guy.

    If you were ever doxxed you would shit your pants. Old turd.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Torna atrás

    , @Frau Katze
    @AnotherDad

    “Immigration forever” used to be a Republican thing (cheap wages). I believe that Reagan was a proponent.

    At one point Dems tried to appeal to the working class, which included not flooding the country with low wage labour.

    This is more complex than “Jews are trying to replace us.”

    Replies: @Art Deco, @epebble, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Mark G.

    , @Gandydancer
    @AnotherDad


    Having a shabbos like Biden works better.
     
    I'm not very familiar with Judaism, but this locution seemed a bit odd. As best I can determine calling a person a "shabbos" makes no sense.
    https://torah.org/torah-portion/nesivosshalom-howshabbosworks/

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  245. @Old Prude
    A couple other observations: Scarce applause for Pompeo’s trashing of Putin, and Tucker Carlson was hopped-up on coke.

    Replies: @Anon87, @Mark G.

    “Scarce applause for Pompeo’s trashing of Putin.”

    The majority of Republicans do not really believe Putin is the next Hitler who is going to overrun Europe if we don’t stop him in the Ukraine. This is why the majority of House Republicans voted against the last Ukraine military assistance bill.

    Biden has lost his proxy war against Russia in the Ukraine. This was just one of his numerous bad policies while in office. He just had bad judgement, as did the people who voted for him in 2020.

    With our two trillion dollar a year federal deficits, we are headed for future cuts in our nine hundred billion dollar a year military and the adoption of a more noninterventionist foreign policy. We are nearing the end of these overseas adventures.

    • Replies: @HA
    @Mark G.

    "The majority of Republicans do not really believe Putin is the next Hitler who is going to overrun Europe if we don’t stop him in the Ukraine."

    So says the guy who repeatedly calls people "fascist" whenever he loses an argument. I.e. not really in the best position to be accusing others of playing the Hitler card fast and loose.

    And Putin doesn't have to be Hitler to be a guy who needs containing. He just has to be an expansionist Peter-the-Great LARPER who promotes generals who claim that Ukraine is only a stepping stone, who cannot be relied to uphold the agreements his country already signed, and who threatens to launch nukes whenever he's not allowed to keep stealing more territory.

    To the extent Trump hasn't figured that out, it may well cost us, but learn he shall. I'm not convinced he won't cave on that the way he already caved before in allowing Johnson to pass the previous aid package, but I guess we'll see. And Zelensky also believed that the fact that Putin wasn't Hitler meant that Putin could be trusted. That, too, was a stupid mistake, and it cost him dearly. Trump, or Vance, or whoever wants to think it will work out differently for them, will likewise learn that lesson.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Mr. Anon

    , @Anonymous
    @Mark G.

    I wish I could agree with you that there will be cuts in military spending, but I believe the elites will push for big cuts in Social Security and Medicare to maintain the military spending.

  246. HA says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @HA

    Uh, NO, I brought up an entirely different point, which apparently sailed, zoomed way over your head. I brought up an entirely different matter, to which you apparently were obtuse to see that it was another topic that was brought up. I moved on to another topic, pure and simple.

    What I STATED was that Russia did NOT hack US voting machines and causing Hillary to lose the election. Honestly, only a seven yr old is that f'ed up to believe such a lie. Just as only an f'ed person or devious, or simply part of the Deep State putting out the propaganda talking points, still clings to the Russia blew up its own pipelines, or it was a small Ukrainian sailboat that did the work.

    Whether one wants to admit it or not, Hillary lost the election in 16. Period. It was not due to nefarious plot by Russia. Honestly, the hubris of the Deep State, D/GOP, government is so offputting.

    You're no longer being funny, HA HA HA.

    Replies: @HA

    “Uh, NO, I brought up an entirely different point, …”

    Yeah. As in deflecting, shifting the goalposts, tossing in a few red herrings and other non sequiturs, and in short, spewing ink all around. Glad we’re clear on that (or as clear as you’re willing to be).

    “What I STATED was that Russia did NOT hack US voting machines and causing Hillary to lose the election.”

    Which is, as you yourself noted, has nothing whatsoever to do with whether CrowdStrike “admits” or “admitted” that it had no evidence that the DNC emails were exfiltrated.

    Moreover, you’re mashing up a lot of stuff together again. As to what Russia was able to achieve with regard to voting machines, there’s more to the story. It’s not a lot, but even that one link is, I’d wager, a lot more authoritative than your link-free assertions to the contrary. To wit:

    To this day, no one knows definitively what happened with Durham’s poll books. And one important fact about the incident still worries election integrity activists three years later: VR Systems had been targeted by Russian hackers in a phishing campaign three months before the election. The hackers had sent malicious emails both to VR Systems and to some of its election customers, attempting to trick the recipients into revealing usernames and passwords for their email accounts. The Russians had also visited VR Systems’ website, presumably looking for vulnerabilities they could use to get into the company’s network, as the hackers had done with Illinois’ state voter registration system months earlier.

    VR Systems has long insisted that none of its employees fell for the Russian phishing scam and that none of its systems were hacked.

    I myself would characterize all that as “weak sauce”, but again, that’s neither here nor there since I didn’t even mention it. Moreover, I try to be consistent about stuff like that and therefore don’t go around screaming about how the election in which Trump subsequently lost was stolen. Would that the rest of the unz-dot-com commenters could claim the same.

    And as to whether any of that was enough to sway the election — as opposed to Hillary’s own bungling — that is yet another different ball of wax. I myself very much doubt it was, based on what I’ve seen, but again, it’s neither here nor there. Same goes for whether any of that is any different than what US hackers try to do in places like Russia, or any other related set of questions you might throw up to get over your bitter disappointment that the CrowdStrike “admission” claim went nowhere. Do try and be little clearer next time.

    “You’re no longer being funny, HA HA HA.”

    Given that you’re the one I’m laughing at, I’m not surprised you’re not all that amused. You’re providing more than enough comedy for the both of us.

  247. HA says:
    @Mark G.
    @Old Prude

    "Scarce applause for Pompeo's trashing of Putin."

    The majority of Republicans do not really believe Putin is the next Hitler who is going to overrun Europe if we don't stop him in the Ukraine. This is why the majority of House Republicans voted against the last Ukraine military assistance bill.

    Biden has lost his proxy war against Russia in the Ukraine. This was just one of his numerous bad policies while in office. He just had bad judgement, as did the people who voted for him in 2020.

    With our two trillion dollar a year federal deficits, we are headed for future cuts in our nine hundred billion dollar a year military and the adoption of a more noninterventionist foreign policy. We are nearing the end of these overseas adventures.

    Replies: @HA, @Anonymous

    “The majority of Republicans do not really believe Putin is the next Hitler who is going to overrun Europe if we don’t stop him in the Ukraine.”

    So says the guy who repeatedly calls people “fascist” whenever he loses an argument. I.e. not really in the best position to be accusing others of playing the Hitler card fast and loose.

    And Putin doesn’t have to be Hitler to be a guy who needs containing. He just has to be an expansionist Peter-the-Great LARPER who promotes generals who claim that Ukraine is only a stepping stone, who cannot be relied to uphold the agreements his country already signed, and who threatens to launch nukes whenever he’s not allowed to keep stealing more territory.

    To the extent Trump hasn’t figured that out, it may well cost us, but learn he shall. I’m not convinced he won’t cave on that the way he already caved before in allowing Johnson to pass the previous aid package, but I guess we’ll see. And Zelensky also believed that the fact that Putin wasn’t Hitler meant that Putin could be trusted. That, too, was a stupid mistake, and it cost him dearly. Trump, or Vance, or whoever wants to think it will work out differently for them, will likewise learn that lesson.

    • Agree: Art Deco, Frau Katze
    • Disagree: Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @HA

    Why can't you just accept that Putin is a Russian patriot ?

    He told you, loud and clear, but would you listen?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/apr/04/nato.russia


    Fri 4 Apr 2008 13.33 BST

    The Russian president, Vladimir Putin, today repeated his warning that Moscow would view any attempt to expand Nato to its borders as a "direct threat".

    Russia has been angered by the 26-nation military alliance's eastward growth, and Nato yesterday said Ukraine and Georgia, both former Soviet republics, could one day join.

     

    By making the stakes so high, the US have put their own status on the line. We're at a historical point of inflection, an asymptote if I remember my maths.

    Putin inherited a ransacked and bewildered country, with a poor and demoralized people,” Solzhenitsyn told the German magazine Der Spiegel in a 2007 interview, when Putin was still president. “And he started to do what was possible, a slow and gradual restoration. These efforts were not noticed, nor appreciated, immediately. In any case, one is hard-pressed to find examples in history when steps by one country to restore its strength were met favorably by other governments.
     

    Replies: @HA

    , @Mr. Anon
    @HA


    And Putin doesn’t have to be Hitler to be a guy who needs containing.
     
    Then I suggest you hop a plane to Kiev, buy a rifle, and start containing, you loathsome piece of s**t.

    Replies: @HA

  248. @HA
    @Mark G.

    "The majority of Republicans do not really believe Putin is the next Hitler who is going to overrun Europe if we don’t stop him in the Ukraine."

    So says the guy who repeatedly calls people "fascist" whenever he loses an argument. I.e. not really in the best position to be accusing others of playing the Hitler card fast and loose.

    And Putin doesn't have to be Hitler to be a guy who needs containing. He just has to be an expansionist Peter-the-Great LARPER who promotes generals who claim that Ukraine is only a stepping stone, who cannot be relied to uphold the agreements his country already signed, and who threatens to launch nukes whenever he's not allowed to keep stealing more territory.

    To the extent Trump hasn't figured that out, it may well cost us, but learn he shall. I'm not convinced he won't cave on that the way he already caved before in allowing Johnson to pass the previous aid package, but I guess we'll see. And Zelensky also believed that the fact that Putin wasn't Hitler meant that Putin could be trusted. That, too, was a stupid mistake, and it cost him dearly. Trump, or Vance, or whoever wants to think it will work out differently for them, will likewise learn that lesson.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Mr. Anon

    Why can’t you just accept that Putin is a Russian patriot ?

    He told you, loud and clear, but would you listen?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/apr/04/nato.russia

    Fri 4 Apr 2008 13.33 BST

    The Russian president, Vladimir Putin, today repeated his warning that Moscow would view any attempt to expand Nato to its borders as a “direct threat”.

    Russia has been angered by the 26-nation military alliance’s eastward growth, and Nato yesterday said Ukraine and Georgia, both former Soviet republics, could one day join.

    By making the stakes so high, the US have put their own status on the line. We’re at a historical point of inflection, an asymptote if I remember my maths.

    Putin inherited a ransacked and bewildered country, with a poor and demoralized people,” Solzhenitsyn told the German magazine Der Spiegel in a 2007 interview, when Putin was still president. “And he started to do what was possible, a slow and gradual restoration. These efforts were not noticed, nor appreciated, immediately. In any case, one is hard-pressed to find examples in history when steps by one country to restore its strength were met favorably by other governments.

    • Replies: @HA
    @YetAnotherAnon

    "Why can’t you just accept that Putin is a Russian patriot ?"

    Because that's not the issue, is it? I'm sure plenty of people thought that Hitler, decorated war veteran, and tireless campaigner for German interests, was a German patriot, too. Again, it's not relevant. No, it was all that warmongering and invading and mass slaughter that didn't go over well, not the patriotism; after all, plenty of peaceful Germans had ample reserves of that.

    Similarly, what sane people take issue with is Putin's decision to invade a country in order to get what he could have easily gotten without firing a single shot (you know, just like the fanboys claim that Nuland was able to do with little more than a basket of pastries and some persistence). As has been explained here dozens of time, if Putin is so hot and bothered about NATO, he should have resisted the temptation to tear off chunks of other countries, not to mention invading them, and that's especially true of countries that Russia specifically promised to not invade and tear apart. Because that's EXACTLY the kind of thing that makes said country want to join a security alliance like NATO -- how is that a mystery to you or anyone else at this point?

    Ukraine's populace had meager interest in joining up with NATO prior to Crimea's swipe -- we're talking polling numbers consistently in the mid-20's or so. Whereas after the swipe, push for NATO accession became the norm. You want to tell me that's some curious coincidence? If it isn't, then face it: it's your boy's fault that Ukraine wants to join NATO. He has no one to blame but himself, and maybe his idiot enablers in the West who realized far too late that he needs to be contained.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

  249. @Bragadocious
    @John Gruskos

    Maybe you hyperventilating clowns should stop with the Israel stuff. You'll never get your way and you should learn to cope. The 2016 campaign had no anti-Israel stuff. Go back and look if you don't believe me. The most Trump would say is that he wanted to make a deal. That was it. He did exit office pretty much hating Netanyahu, FWIW.

    Anyway, Israel is about the 20th most important thing on Trump's plate right now. Freeing the US from Britain's maximalist Ukraine psychosis is the #1 priority, and probably priorities 2 and 3 as well. He's appointed a VP who is getting savaged in the British press right now, and this is an excellent sign.

    Replies: @Manfred Arcane, @Colin Wright, @John Gruskos

    ‘Maybe you hyperventilating clowns should stop with the Israel stuff…’

    Disagree. We do many foolish, selfish, self-destructive things. The one act of outright evil we engage in is to support Israel. It’s like I drink too much, take out pay day loans — and molest small children. Which behavior should I address first?

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Colin Wright

    The flood of immigration is the most evil thing. But the good news is once the Hindus, Chinese and mestizos are in charge the support for Israel will wane.

  250. @Colin Wright
    @AnotherDad


    '...if somehow or another she actually won … she would not only take up 2028, but stink up the Democrat’s brand for a decade or more...'
     
    If she actually won, it could be academic what the Democrat's 'brand' was in a decade. How was the 'brand' of the Kadets by 1925?

    I think we're headed out the door of the plane without a parachute. I suspect electing Trump won't be enough -- but four more years of either Biden or Harris is definitely not a step in the right direction.

    I would say buy stock in ammunition distributors -- but will there be a functioning stock market in a decade? Well, probably...but we're heading towards some radical rearrangement of the deck chairs -- and I doubt I'll like it. For one, us oldsters need a functioning and properly subsidized health care system. Hard to get that when electric power is a thing of the past.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    I would say buy stock in ammunition distributors — but will there be a functioning stock market in a decade? Well, probably…but we’re heading towards some radical rearrangement of the deck chairs — and I doubt I’ll like it. For one, us oldsters need a functioning and properly subsidized health care system. Hard to get that when electric power is a thing of the past.

    It’s not going to be that bleak.

    The US has been rapidly Latinizing, so look to Latin America to see what that looks like. We’re generally going to more white, more Asian and more black than those countries and generally more functional. I go with “slumping toward Brazil” to take into account our outsized black population. (Brazil’s is even bigger.)

    The US will be functioning for quite a while. Just not nearly as functional as it was historically as a white Western nation dragging the black boat anchor along. But you’ll still have electric power.

    ~~

    The real challenges of the future are two-fold:

    1) Because of the open border plus dysgenic fertility US demographics simply are not going to competitive with China. And we’re mired in obsessions about stupid stuff–DIE, trannies–that make that all worse. Meanwhile China–though in its own demographic crisis–zooms ahead with technology.

    2) The AI/robotic revolution is gathering pace. Even if that does not mean outright extinction, it looks certain that millions of these “low capability” people that we’ve waved in–in recent decades or since 1619–are going to be “surplus to requirements”. That’s a huge problem.

    And those two challenges could dove-tail. The Chinese could simply pull ahead significantly and decide that other peoples and especially the main challenging nation is “in the way”. A Chinese AI engineered plague would not surprise me.

    Sadly saddled with this cancerous minoritarian ideology we are enmeshed in a circus of abject silliness–open borders, BLM, you-go-girl!, trannies–and not even any political discussion of these issues, much less being on the cusp of moving toward solutions.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @AnotherDad

    "A Chinese AI engineered plague would not surprise me."
    I simply don't understand the paranoia with China. Just because America may soon lose its position as #1 superpower doesn't mean the new #1 superpower ( China or Russia) will nuke America. It's not a zero game sum.

    , @Colin Wright
    @AnotherDad


    'It’s not going to be that bleak.

    The US has been rapidly Latinizing, so look to Latin America to see what that looks like...'
     
    Oh, it can be that bleak. I was in Argentina -- and what struck me is that fucked up as things were, at least they were all Argentine. We won't even be able to say that.

    On the other hand...

    '...A Chinese AI engineered plague would not surprise me...'
     
    It would surprise me. China needs us as a market. All those cheap fixtures we need to buy from China? Well, they need to sell them to us. For the foreseeable future anyway, they'll no more exterminate us than a rancher would kill off his herd. The situation here is somewhat like the colonial European powers and late Ch'ing China. They'll keep us around -- I just wouldn't see their interests and ours as quite identical.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

  251. Anonymous[634] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gandydancer
    @Linus


    That and the head tat whore made me wonder what exactly we are conserving.
     
    I had no idea who this person was and from your description assumed she had tats on her face or skull. But it seems she has them on her arms and shoulders and, when I duckduckgo'd the images of "amber rose at rnc" it appeared that she kept those covered and didn't serve as propaganda for doing it by anyone else. Which, being an old fart, I wouldn't care for.

    I didn't watch the RNC and don't much care for the WWE cartoon as a face of the GOP either, but there's no accounting tastes. I'll anyway vote for Trump to keep the (D)'s out, not to conserve anything, so "Are there votes in it?" is the only question.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Look at her hairline.

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Anonymous

    Not interested.

  252. @AnotherDad
    @Colin Wright


    I would say buy stock in ammunition distributors — but will there be a functioning stock market in a decade? Well, probably…but we’re heading towards some radical rearrangement of the deck chairs — and I doubt I’ll like it. For one, us oldsters need a functioning and properly subsidized health care system. Hard to get that when electric power is a thing of the past.
     
    It's not going to be that bleak.

    The US has been rapidly Latinizing, so look to Latin America to see what that looks like. We're generally going to more white, more Asian and more black than those countries and generally more functional. I go with "slumping toward Brazil" to take into account our outsized black population. (Brazil's is even bigger.)

    The US will be functioning for quite a while. Just not nearly as functional as it was historically as a white Western nation dragging the black boat anchor along. But you'll still have electric power.

    ~~

    The real challenges of the future are two-fold:

    1) Because of the open border plus dysgenic fertility US demographics simply are not going to competitive with China. And we're mired in obsessions about stupid stuff--DIE, trannies--that make that all worse. Meanwhile China--though in its own demographic crisis--zooms ahead with technology.

    2) The AI/robotic revolution is gathering pace. Even if that does not mean outright extinction, it looks certain that millions of these "low capability" people that we've waved in--in recent decades or since 1619--are going to be "surplus to requirements". That's a huge problem.

    And those two challenges could dove-tail. The Chinese could simply pull ahead significantly and decide that other peoples and especially the main challenging nation is "in the way". A Chinese AI engineered plague would not surprise me.


    Sadly saddled with this cancerous minoritarian ideology we are enmeshed in a circus of abject silliness--open borders, BLM, you-go-girl!, trannies--and not even any political discussion of these issues, much less being on the cusp of moving toward solutions.

    Replies: @BB753, @Colin Wright

    “A Chinese AI engineered plague would not surprise me.”
    I simply don’t understand the paranoia with China. Just because America may soon lose its position as #1 superpower doesn’t mean the new #1 superpower ( China or Russia) will nuke America. It’s not a zero game sum.

  253. @AnotherDad
    @Almost Missouri


    I don’t quite understand the DNC’s aversion to running with Kamala. Yeah okay, she’s supposedly a crappy person. As if Backfire Joe wasn’t a crappy a person?
     
    I expect that most of the Democrats pushing Joe to retire, realize they'll be stuck with Kamala.

    It’s almost like they just don’t want to Celebrate Diversity.
     
    That's cause diversity--Diversity!--sucks. The Democrats are running up against their "coalition of the fringes" "circular firing squad" problem.

    -- Jews. The Jewish money guys call the shots and can setup a candidate like Biden. But it would be just too "on the nose" to have a Jewish guy explicitly running an anti-white a shit show of destruction. Imagine a President Mayorkas? President Garland? The Biden Administration is the most demographically skewed--relative to US population--administration in US history. And it is utterly unmentioned in the press. (Seriously, I think a President Schumer would have been less destructive, because he would not want to make the connection so obvious, and he would have cared more about his own re-election.) Having a shabbos like Biden works better.

    -- Blacks. People can vote for a black who seems reasonable, checks the boxes. Obama was a big stroke for "good whites". But that's done and no other group actually thinks "black wonderful" or "black competent" or that the presidential ticket must be black all the time. However, blacks have been endlessly coddled by minoritarianism and since Saint George's OD, the "must have black thing" has been over the top pushing black ego/entitlement up through the roof.

    Black women are running around thinking they are "wise" or possess "black girl magic". But everyone else thinks more along the lines of DMV lady. Black men really don't want a black woman bossing them. Mexicans have no use for blacks at all. Asians have generally negative opinions. And it's mutual, blacks are used to having to vote for whitey outside of explicitly black districts. But they have negative attitudes toward voting for Mexicans or Asians--that's "cut in line" and "took our spot" territory. The Democrats have a line to tread pandering to their vote bank but can not afford to fall into Steve's "the black party" trap.

    -- Mexicans/Latinos. They are mostly pretty politically quiescent here. And due to the concentration of their numbers in blue states or red states (Texas) they aren't immediately in the frame. Mexicans matter in Arizona and Nevada, but again are unloved by blacks who matter in almost every other swing state.

    -- Asians. The Chinese are boring. The Indians keep popping up everywhere but are unloved. Both seem kind of "foreign".

    -- Muslims. 'nuf said. Well ok, the obvious: the "immigration forever!" the Jews pushed inevitably means they'll be more Muslims than Jews in the US eventually. (Kaganovitch's heroic efforts notwithstanding.) At some point the Parasites might not even be a Jewish party. In the interim they have to do "stay apart!"

    -- White women. LOL. They are the Parasite Party's biggest vote bank and they are everywhere trying to run everything, full of very definite opinions--which are exactly in line with whatever they heard on the View or the morning shows. Since Jewish second wave feminism taught them that they are oppressed, they've A) have a chip on their shoulder about being heard and B) know--you go girl--that they should be running things and everything would be better if they did. It's a very, very feminized party and they provide the critical votes, so they're sort of right.

    There's only one problem. No one likes white women. Specifically these political you-go-girl church ladies. Very specifically no one is enamored by the thought of being led by a white woman President and being finger wagged and dictated to by her. The soy boys will dutifully vote for them. Most white men--even "progressives" would rather not--would rather have a guy. Black men definitely would not. And even black women have no use for them.

    But white women think they should be running the show. At least half the time. That a woman should always be on the ticket. And just on the bottom, but woman on top.

    ~~

    Sort through it all and again and again you come back to the same thing ... the best presidential candidate for the anti-white, anti-male "diversity!" party is a straight white gentile male! They seem ho-hum, they don't scare the (white) horses and do not stoke the intra-coalition-of-the-fringes ethnic conflicts.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Frau Katze, @Gandydancer

    A 16th CE Chinese scholar-official wrote a letter to a corrupt decadent emperor– stating that he’s a piece of shit. But if he gets his act together he can become a sage emperor ascribed in the classics.

    The emperor read the letter and went apeshit. Ordering the eunuchs to “Catch this man, don’t let him get away!”

    The eunuch official replied: “Your majesty, this man is an idiot. He’s waiting at home and has already prepared a casket.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hai_Rui

    If your ideas are so brilliant go publish them under your real name. What do you have to lose?

    No. You trash your own women under anonymous handle and act like you are some tough guy.

    If you were ever doxxed you would shit your pants. Old turd.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    ... wait a minute, how the hell is this example supposed to make people want to stick out their necks?

    , @anonymous
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Well said. Thank you.

    , @AnotherDad
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Bromance, appreciate the story Hai Rui story. Not sure why you've got your panties all in a twist.

    -- Rather obviously, i'm not in the Hai Rui situation. If I had a chance to stop "the emperor's" insanity I would gladly build my coffin and do it. (I hope to go another 20 or so, but I care way, way, way about my kids and my country.)

    -- BTW, I'm one of the easiest commenters here to dox, I've given a ton of personal info in comments over the years such that there's only one person I could be--me. Problem is ... who cares. I'm retired My family and friends already know I'm a "far right" Trump voting loon. (Our across the street neighbor came over Saturday afternoon nominally to welcome us back for the summer, but I think she also just wanted a friendly ear to talk about the Trump shooting. My next door neighbor will bend my ear whenever I'm here about the crazies in Seattle and everything going to hell. I'm already "out".)

    -- If you think my analysis of the Democrats situation--basically just Steve's point that their "coalition of the fringes" has lots of internal fissures and is composed of groups who do not necessarily like or respect one another--is crappy, just cite where you disagree.

    -- On the "trash your own women" thing. Stupid. (I like the women I like and have no use for treasonous virtue signaling women--white or not.) That women vote differently is one of the most well worn observations. (As Steve has pointed out, actually the "marriage gap" is bigger than the "gender gap". It's single women that are the Democrats real vote bank.)

    As to lots of men not wanting a female "top dog"--i.e. president--that's something the other side claims as well. They just call it "sexism". I think there's good reasons for that "sexism". And I think one of the biggest elements is behavioral--the "church lady". No one really wants to get the finger waging lecture from a church lady. But--I was making this point to my kids just a couple weeks back--the old school church ladies did pro-social finger wagging--"sober up", "stop gambling", "support your family", "keep your legs crossed", etc. etc. Now we have this same attitudinal affect, but now the Democrat church ladies are finger wagging minoritarian lies and no one really wants to hear it. If you doubt this go talk to President Hillary Clinton.

    Replies: @Torna atrás

    , @Torna atrás
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    As you probably know, Dr. Seuss is in the process of being unpersonned and erased from literature. The reason is some allegedly racist drawings of Japanese people (more excuses have been brought forth, but I'm focusing in the Japanese issue).

    What the sanctimonious cancelmob is ignorant of is that Seuss belonged to the WWII generation, where many Americans were anti-Japanese (not anti-Asian) and many if not most Japanese were anti-American. Virulently so. This was entirely expected, as the two countries were at war with each other. And in fact, both governments actively encouraged such attitudes -- the enemy must be dehumanized in war, as we all know.

    Yes, Seuss drew a few propaganda caricatures of the Japanese. And in the same period, the Japanese committed heinous war crimes against American POWs, including murdering 40% of American prisoners of war in violation of Japanese law and the Geneva Conventions. For reference, less than 1% of American POWs died at the hands of the Nazis.

    Now they're weak, but in WWII the Japanese were bloodthirsty, monstrous mass murderers of POWs and civilians alike. They murdered 40 times more American prisoners of war than the Nazis. And they refuse to apologize for it to this day.

    This is the world in which Seuss drew a few tacky caricatures of the Japanese.

    To cancel him for this would be like canceling Hogan's Heroes for their undeniably funny depiction of Germans.

  254. @AnotherDad
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    No one is naming the Jew, therefore nothing serious or substantial will get done. As usual.

    Can’t have a real country or a real politics, if you can’t or won’t identify its real mortal enemies.
     

    Disagree.

    I'm upfront that I think the minoritarian cancer is basically Jewish ideology, pushed and propagandized to ascendency by American Jews. And that the "scientists" pushing the whole anti-genetic, nurture-uber-alles, ideology** were/are Jews doing political "science" in the service of minoritarianism. (**Basically, that human group differences in intelligence and personality are the sole area in the whole reach of biology unaffected by genes.)


    But there's no need politically to run around "naming the Jew". No, you simply attack the bad behavior, bad policies, bad ideology.

    Same as with blacks and crime. You don't "name the black", you denounce crime, call for "law and order" and locking up criminals. If blacks start whining that denouncing crime is attacking blacks, or blacks are more likely to be locked up, you respond "Well then blacks should do better. Stop tolerating criminals in your communities—zero tolerance. Black men should work harder to keep their sons on the straight and narrow—out of gangs, off the criminal path. It's your community, you need to fix it."

    Likewise, you denounce the immigration and open border treason. If some Jews start pointing out that you're naming mostly Jews—ex. Mayorkas, Garland, the "Biden Administration" traitors--and pipe up with their usual "anti-Semite!", you respond the same way: "So you're telling me Jews have a problem being loyal Americans? Putting the interests of their fellow Americans and our posterity first? Well then Jews should do better. Patriotic Jews should work on routing this virus of disloyalty out of their community. It's not like there aren't plenty of Jews—like Stephen Miller—who are patriotic and want to preserve America for Americans and our posterity. Jews should do better and fix it." The media Jews, of course, will squeal like stuck pigs when you say "disloyal". But while Americans are ho-hum philo-Semitic, if Jews starting broadcasting that Jews in fact do find pushing immigration rather than loyalty to the interests of Americans part of their "Jewish identity", that will just cause normie Americans to go "hmm". It's not a winner for Jews.

    Same with anything else. You call for normality, decency, sanity, national loyalty and denounce the destructive people, pushing crime, immivasion, anti-whitism, trannies, anti-family, anti-natalism, cultural depravity etc. If someone wants to pop-up and say "but that's who we are!", you respond "Well then who you are sucks. Do better."

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Colin Wright, @rebel yell, @Jack D

    Same as with blacks and crime. You don’t “name the black”, you denounce crime, call for “law and order” and locking up criminals. If blacks start whining that denouncing crime is attacking blacks, or blacks are more likely to be locked up, you respond “Well then blacks should do better. Stop tolerating criminals in your communities—zero tolerance. Black men should work harder to keep their sons on the straight and narrow—out of gangs, off the criminal path. It’s your community, you need to fix it.”

    This won’t work. The day is over when whites can tacitly understand that black dysfunction is “in their blood” but not talk about it directly and instead speak obliquely about fixing communities. The Left won’t allow this – their response is that “systemic racism” is the cause and therefore bad whitey has to be rooted out once and for all. The Left has forced this conversation into the open and now the truth has to be said.
    Blacks will never accept that their genetics is causing their failure, because let’s face it, this is really bad news for them. Whites and Asians can conceivably talk about this and even discuss reasonable eugenic improvements to help blacks and more importantly help the rest of us, such as sterilizing black criminals and welfare queens. But what an explosive public debate that will be.
    Like the compromise over slavery in the 1850’s, or “don’t ask don’t tell,” the compromise you are suggesting of somehow corralling blacks without explicitly confronting the biology problem cannot hold up.
    The humane solution is to face the biology problem squarely and talk about a better gene future for blacks. The inhumane solution is a big civil war with ethnic cleansing to remove blacks. The worst solution is to submit to DEI and slump toward the Zimbabwe outcome.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @rebel yell


    The humane solution is to face the biology problem squarely and talk about a better gene future for blacks. The inhumane solution is a big civil war with ethnic cleansing to remove blacks.
     
    Attempting the former solution will hurry along the latter, with plenty of others going by the wayside as well. As you wrote:

    Blacks will never accept that their genetics is causing their failure, because let’s face it, this is really bad news for them.
     
    , @Colin Wright
    @rebel yell


    '...The humane solution is to face the biology problem squarely and talk about a better gene future for blacks...'
     
    The most humane solution is what it was.

    Jim Crow.
  255. @Mr. Anon
    @Gandydancer


    Is this just your impression or do you have data on this? My impression is different. It certainly seems to me that the swastika was more prominent in anti-German propaganda images than your claim would suggest.
     
    Well, given that it was on their flag, yeah. Do I have data on it? No. What data could I possible have? What data do you have?

    It is my impression - the impression of somebody who lived in an era when WWII veterans were still thick on the ground, including among my own relatives, and when WWII movies made in the couple decades after the war were still airing on television. It's not that the term "Nazi" was never used, but it was not used exclusively as it largely seems to be now.

    That generation - the generation of men that actually fought the war on the allied side - had a much more nuanced, less comic-book-like version of the events of that time. They even admired German soldiers, sailors, and airmen as brave and capable warriors, even though they despised the regime they fought for. They read biographies about them.

    Replies: @Corn, @Anonymous, @Gandydancer, @Colinsky

    That generation – the generation of men that actually fought the war on the allied side – had a much more nuanced, less comic-book-like version of the events of that time. They even admired German soldiers, sailors, and airmen as brave and capable warriors, even though they despised the regime they fought for. They read biographies about them.

    Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe there were multiple instances from ca. 1950-1990 where ex German Army officers, maybe even some SS veterans, were invited to West Point to lecture on combat tactics, maneuver warfare etc.

  256. @rebel yell
    @AnotherDad


    Same as with blacks and crime. You don’t “name the black”, you denounce crime, call for “law and order” and locking up criminals. If blacks start whining that denouncing crime is attacking blacks, or blacks are more likely to be locked up, you respond “Well then blacks should do better. Stop tolerating criminals in your communities—zero tolerance. Black men should work harder to keep their sons on the straight and narrow—out of gangs, off the criminal path. It’s your community, you need to fix it.”
     
    This won't work. The day is over when whites can tacitly understand that black dysfunction is "in their blood" but not talk about it directly and instead speak obliquely about fixing communities. The Left won't allow this - their response is that "systemic racism" is the cause and therefore bad whitey has to be rooted out once and for all. The Left has forced this conversation into the open and now the truth has to be said.
    Blacks will never accept that their genetics is causing their failure, because let's face it, this is really bad news for them. Whites and Asians can conceivably talk about this and even discuss reasonable eugenic improvements to help blacks and more importantly help the rest of us, such as sterilizing black criminals and welfare queens. But what an explosive public debate that will be.
    Like the compromise over slavery in the 1850's, or "don't ask don't tell," the compromise you are suggesting of somehow corralling blacks without explicitly confronting the biology problem cannot hold up.
    The humane solution is to face the biology problem squarely and talk about a better gene future for blacks. The inhumane solution is a big civil war with ethnic cleansing to remove blacks. The worst solution is to submit to DEI and slump toward the Zimbabwe outcome.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Colin Wright

    The humane solution is to face the biology problem squarely and talk about a better gene future for blacks. The inhumane solution is a big civil war with ethnic cleansing to remove blacks.

    Attempting the former solution will hurry along the latter, with plenty of others going by the wayside as well. As you wrote:

    Blacks will never accept that their genetics is causing their failure, because let’s face it, this is really bad news for them.

  257. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @AnotherDad

    A 16th CE Chinese scholar-official wrote a letter to a corrupt decadent emperor-- stating that he's a piece of shit. But if he gets his act together he can become a sage emperor ascribed in the classics.

    The emperor read the letter and went apeshit. Ordering the eunuchs to "Catch this man, don't let him get away!"

    The eunuch official replied: "Your majesty, this man is an idiot. He's waiting at home and has already prepared a casket."

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/%E6%B5%B7%E7%91%9E.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hai_Rui

    If your ideas are so brilliant go publish them under your real name. What do you have to lose?

    No. You trash your own women under anonymous handle and act like you are some tough guy.

    If you were ever doxxed you would shit your pants. Old turd.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Torna atrás

    … wait a minute, how the hell is this example supposed to make people want to stick out their necks?

  258. @AnotherDad
    @Colin Wright


    I would say buy stock in ammunition distributors — but will there be a functioning stock market in a decade? Well, probably…but we’re heading towards some radical rearrangement of the deck chairs — and I doubt I’ll like it. For one, us oldsters need a functioning and properly subsidized health care system. Hard to get that when electric power is a thing of the past.
     
    It's not going to be that bleak.

    The US has been rapidly Latinizing, so look to Latin America to see what that looks like. We're generally going to more white, more Asian and more black than those countries and generally more functional. I go with "slumping toward Brazil" to take into account our outsized black population. (Brazil's is even bigger.)

    The US will be functioning for quite a while. Just not nearly as functional as it was historically as a white Western nation dragging the black boat anchor along. But you'll still have electric power.

    ~~

    The real challenges of the future are two-fold:

    1) Because of the open border plus dysgenic fertility US demographics simply are not going to competitive with China. And we're mired in obsessions about stupid stuff--DIE, trannies--that make that all worse. Meanwhile China--though in its own demographic crisis--zooms ahead with technology.

    2) The AI/robotic revolution is gathering pace. Even if that does not mean outright extinction, it looks certain that millions of these "low capability" people that we've waved in--in recent decades or since 1619--are going to be "surplus to requirements". That's a huge problem.

    And those two challenges could dove-tail. The Chinese could simply pull ahead significantly and decide that other peoples and especially the main challenging nation is "in the way". A Chinese AI engineered plague would not surprise me.


    Sadly saddled with this cancerous minoritarian ideology we are enmeshed in a circus of abject silliness--open borders, BLM, you-go-girl!, trannies--and not even any political discussion of these issues, much less being on the cusp of moving toward solutions.

    Replies: @BB753, @Colin Wright

    ‘It’s not going to be that bleak.

    The US has been rapidly Latinizing, so look to Latin America to see what that looks like…’

    Oh, it can be that bleak. I was in Argentina — and what struck me is that fucked up as things were, at least they were all Argentine. We won’t even be able to say that.

    On the other hand…

    ‘…A Chinese AI engineered plague would not surprise me…’

    It would surprise me. China needs us as a market. All those cheap fixtures we need to buy from China? Well, they need to sell them to us. For the foreseeable future anyway, they’ll no more exterminate us than a rancher would kill off his herd. The situation here is somewhat like the colonial European powers and late Ch’ing China. They’ll keep us around — I just wouldn’t see their interests and ours as quite identical.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Colin Wright

    The US share of world population continues to decline, as does its share of world GDP.

    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/u-s-share-of-global-economy-over-time/

    Other countries have a large number of people claiming out of abject poverty, even joining a nascent lower-middle-class, with increasing disposable income. By contrast, the USA’s subjects have steadily declining disposable income to spend on anything other than overpriced necessities: housing, food, medical care, and a vehicle.

    China will need the dying, poorer US’s consumers less and less in the near future.

    In time, even a drastic decline in Americans’ purchases of Chinese products can EASILY be offset by ever-increasing sales to Mexico, Brazil and other South American countries, Indonesia, Africa, etc. China is the #1 trading partner of more countries with each passing decade.

    China is the #1 trading partner of the majority of countries in the world:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/26/china-still-top-trading-partner-for-many-countries-says-adb.html

    As a personal anecdote, when we outfitted our home in Mexico, we were able to buy appliances and furniture mostly made in Mexico (some at local factories owned by Chinese corporations like HiSense). The remainder of the appliances and kitchenware were made in China, Brazil, italy, France and Spain. We could find little made or even assembled in the USA, even at large chain stores in a big city. China continues to build more factories in places like Mexico, and Mexicans and other non-US consumers make up ever more of China’s export audience.

    Thinking that China desperately needs American consumers is just another way arrogant, ill-informed Fatmericans have to adjust to the new reality and get the fuck over themselves.

    Replies: @epebble, @Colin Wright

  259. @rebel yell
    @AnotherDad


    Same as with blacks and crime. You don’t “name the black”, you denounce crime, call for “law and order” and locking up criminals. If blacks start whining that denouncing crime is attacking blacks, or blacks are more likely to be locked up, you respond “Well then blacks should do better. Stop tolerating criminals in your communities—zero tolerance. Black men should work harder to keep their sons on the straight and narrow—out of gangs, off the criminal path. It’s your community, you need to fix it.”
     
    This won't work. The day is over when whites can tacitly understand that black dysfunction is "in their blood" but not talk about it directly and instead speak obliquely about fixing communities. The Left won't allow this - their response is that "systemic racism" is the cause and therefore bad whitey has to be rooted out once and for all. The Left has forced this conversation into the open and now the truth has to be said.
    Blacks will never accept that their genetics is causing their failure, because let's face it, this is really bad news for them. Whites and Asians can conceivably talk about this and even discuss reasonable eugenic improvements to help blacks and more importantly help the rest of us, such as sterilizing black criminals and welfare queens. But what an explosive public debate that will be.
    Like the compromise over slavery in the 1850's, or "don't ask don't tell," the compromise you are suggesting of somehow corralling blacks without explicitly confronting the biology problem cannot hold up.
    The humane solution is to face the biology problem squarely and talk about a better gene future for blacks. The inhumane solution is a big civil war with ethnic cleansing to remove blacks. The worst solution is to submit to DEI and slump toward the Zimbabwe outcome.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Colin Wright

    ‘…The humane solution is to face the biology problem squarely and talk about a better gene future for blacks…’

    The most humane solution is what it was.

    Jim Crow.

  260. Anonymous[163] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mark G.
    @Old Prude

    "Scarce applause for Pompeo's trashing of Putin."

    The majority of Republicans do not really believe Putin is the next Hitler who is going to overrun Europe if we don't stop him in the Ukraine. This is why the majority of House Republicans voted against the last Ukraine military assistance bill.

    Biden has lost his proxy war against Russia in the Ukraine. This was just one of his numerous bad policies while in office. He just had bad judgement, as did the people who voted for him in 2020.

    With our two trillion dollar a year federal deficits, we are headed for future cuts in our nine hundred billion dollar a year military and the adoption of a more noninterventionist foreign policy. We are nearing the end of these overseas adventures.

    Replies: @HA, @Anonymous

    I wish I could agree with you that there will be cuts in military spending, but I believe the elites will push for big cuts in Social Security and Medicare to maintain the military spending.

  261. @Colin Wright
    @AnotherDad


    '...But there’s no need politically to run around “naming the Jew”. No, you simply attack the bad behavior, bad policies, bad ideology...'
     
    But then you wind up with people like Ben Shapiro, or Jennifer Rubin, or the earlier Neo-Cons. They pretend to be on your side, and adopt your slogans -- and then turn you to serve their interests.

    And when push comes to shove, it's always Israel number one, and immigration can be a good thing, and what's wrong with transgender children? Their version of 'conservatism' boils down to supporting wars for Israel and lowering the capital gains tax.

    I say it's like the flooded basement. You're not going to get anywhere until you admit that the problem might be the that broken pipe gushing water right over there. It's right there. See it?

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Problem then is, it’s one thing to attempt to fix the problem. The challenge is naming the forces/cause of the problem in the first place.

    “Yeah, it’s the—” That’s a tough sell in 2024, especially as they tend to own the MSM, Hollywood, most of Social Media, pop culture, academia, etc.

    So how exactly do you proceed to explicitly, straight up, name the problem?

    We has pickle, we does.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi


    'So how exactly do you proceed to explicitly, straight up, name the problem?

    We has pickle, we does.'
     
    Indeed. If one of us does it, he'll be sent to Kanye West Land. Going by past behavior, if enough of us do it at once, the Jews will hastily retreat. It'll be back to 'Americans all' and framing everything in terms of Christian values, and Jewish baseball stars, and such.

    ...and that just means we'll be going in circles. Worse, unlike some, I don't think Jews are actually bad people; it's just the aggregate effect that's intolerable. I refuse to consider solutions that are unnecessarily inhumane.

    It'd be a trick to bypass the people hanging from telephone poles stage, but I think that if we can merely name the problem, and make that the consensus view, we could be home free. On the one hand, Jews seem to be perfectly amenable to being locked up in ghettoes -- witness the behavior of the ultra-orthodox in New York. They want their own communities, schools, courts, etc.

    Great: if you want to keep being Jewish, have that. They can be isolated and out of the mainstream -- and so reasonably harmless. Jews have spent hundreds of years in such conditions; there, and yet largely irrelevant to the life of the larger community.

    On the other hand, if Jews want to keep being lawyers, professors, etc -- they're going to have to renounce Judaism. And actually, Jews who renounce Judaism -- however superficial the renunciation -- vanish. I believe the history of Europe shows this. All these people keep discovering great-grandfather was a Jew. But the great-grandchildren really aren't; hidden, the identity inevitably goes away.

    At least, so I would be prepared to hope. We can skip the horrors; all we need to do is to say is 'if you want to keep being Jewish, you're going to have to do it on your own. You can't be Jewish and among us.'

    ...I would say give them their own land -- but all the lands are taken. The Palestinians didn't do anything to deserve having them inflicted on them. To adopt this solution merely avoids inhumanity to the Jews by inflicting the inhumanity on some group that is quite innocent but too small and weak to prevent it. The Jews are our problem to solve.
  262. @J.Ross
    @Gandydancer

    You haven't seen Dan Gabriel's powerpoint presentation. We're not going to talk about NAFO but this is pretty much how NAFO came about. Tldr in 2016 Our Leaders discovered 4chan and completely misunderstood how it worked, to rediscover the "whispering campaign." Meme magic works when several people are pretty much already on the same page about something and they begin a kind of pseudo-telepathy. They seem to communicate faster than instantly, the ideas flow -- because they're all on the same page already. So it's less like magic and more like an especially productive business meeting. Well, Green Zone denizens in their illegitimacy and confusion decided that it meant they could repetitively shout their way to rewriting laws of physics -- these are the same retards and the same retardation as that W-era "making reality" idea. This is why Western propaganda is so ineffective: the people making it decided that there are no rules.
    So Democrats are trying to get Biden out using Tinkerbell CPR, and it's working about as well as NAFO trannies trying to defeat Russia using doge.
    Our elites are stupid.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Gandydancer

    What’s NAFO? The W-era? Tinkerbell CPR?

    What a cryptic post.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    NAFO is an organization of transexuals who propagandize ineffectively for NATO using misunderstood ripped-off 4chan memes.
    The W-era refers to 2000-2008 and the presidential administrations of George Walker Bush (or the "war on terra").
    Tinkerbell CPR is clapping to bring about a real-world result (cf Chinese "waiting by a tree stump for accidentally suicidal rabbits").

    , @HA
    @Frau Katze

    "What’s NAFO?"

    He's making an issue of online gadflies who have teamed up to post and repost online comical images of dogs (Shiba Inus, to be exact) that mock Putin. I know that seems hard to swallow, and there has to be something more to it, but I kid you not -- that's what we're talking about.

    I mean, I thought throwing a conniption over being called "fanboys" was already a bit much, but no. Now they're angry and threatened over being laughed at by dudes with beginner-level Photoshop skills posting pictures of Japanese dogs.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @The Germ Theory of Disease

  263. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @AnotherDad

    A 16th CE Chinese scholar-official wrote a letter to a corrupt decadent emperor-- stating that he's a piece of shit. But if he gets his act together he can become a sage emperor ascribed in the classics.

    The emperor read the letter and went apeshit. Ordering the eunuchs to "Catch this man, don't let him get away!"

    The eunuch official replied: "Your majesty, this man is an idiot. He's waiting at home and has already prepared a casket."

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/%E6%B5%B7%E7%91%9E.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hai_Rui

    If your ideas are so brilliant go publish them under your real name. What do you have to lose?

    No. You trash your own women under anonymous handle and act like you are some tough guy.

    If you were ever doxxed you would shit your pants. Old turd.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Torna atrás

    Well said. Thank you.

  264. @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    Even if Biden is somehow persuaded to not run in November, the Dems are still stuck with Kamala.

    How can they get rid of her (a so-called black woman)? She’s also highly unpopular.

     

    I agree that the Democrats are better off just resigning themselves to Trump winning in November and letting Biden drive off the cliff -- but dumping him and running Harris does have two potential advantages.

    First off, if something does turn up and the Democrats do win in November, Biden is going to rapidly become worse; he's going to be seriously brain-dead in short order. Victory will be just the start of the Democrat's problems. Harris, on the other hand, at least won't deteriorate; she'll be just as functional in 2028 as she is now.

    Second, as is more likely, if Biden runs and fails, Harris remains a contender for the Democratic nomination in 2028. How do they get rid of her? On the other hand, if they let her take up the standard now, and she goes down to defeat, hopefully they can put her out to pasture.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    It’s hard to tell whether the campaign to get Biden to withdraw will work. He seems awfully determined to stay. Still, there’s people trying to convince him.

    With Giggles in the wings, it’s definitely going to be an interesting campaign season.

  265. @Frau Katze
    @J.Ross

    What’s NAFO? The W-era? Tinkerbell CPR?

    What a cryptic post.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @HA

    NAFO is an organization of transexuals who propagandize ineffectively for NATO using misunderstood ripped-off 4chan memes.
    The W-era refers to 2000-2008 and the presidential administrations of George Walker Bush (or the “war on terra”).
    Tinkerbell CPR is clapping to bring about a real-world result (cf Chinese “waiting by a tree stump for accidentally suicidal rabbits”).

    • Thanks: Frau Katze
  266. @AnotherDad
    @Almost Missouri


    I don’t quite understand the DNC’s aversion to running with Kamala. Yeah okay, she’s supposedly a crappy person. As if Backfire Joe wasn’t a crappy a person?
     
    I expect that most of the Democrats pushing Joe to retire, realize they'll be stuck with Kamala.

    It’s almost like they just don’t want to Celebrate Diversity.
     
    That's cause diversity--Diversity!--sucks. The Democrats are running up against their "coalition of the fringes" "circular firing squad" problem.

    -- Jews. The Jewish money guys call the shots and can setup a candidate like Biden. But it would be just too "on the nose" to have a Jewish guy explicitly running an anti-white a shit show of destruction. Imagine a President Mayorkas? President Garland? The Biden Administration is the most demographically skewed--relative to US population--administration in US history. And it is utterly unmentioned in the press. (Seriously, I think a President Schumer would have been less destructive, because he would not want to make the connection so obvious, and he would have cared more about his own re-election.) Having a shabbos like Biden works better.

    -- Blacks. People can vote for a black who seems reasonable, checks the boxes. Obama was a big stroke for "good whites". But that's done and no other group actually thinks "black wonderful" or "black competent" or that the presidential ticket must be black all the time. However, blacks have been endlessly coddled by minoritarianism and since Saint George's OD, the "must have black thing" has been over the top pushing black ego/entitlement up through the roof.

    Black women are running around thinking they are "wise" or possess "black girl magic". But everyone else thinks more along the lines of DMV lady. Black men really don't want a black woman bossing them. Mexicans have no use for blacks at all. Asians have generally negative opinions. And it's mutual, blacks are used to having to vote for whitey outside of explicitly black districts. But they have negative attitudes toward voting for Mexicans or Asians--that's "cut in line" and "took our spot" territory. The Democrats have a line to tread pandering to their vote bank but can not afford to fall into Steve's "the black party" trap.

    -- Mexicans/Latinos. They are mostly pretty politically quiescent here. And due to the concentration of their numbers in blue states or red states (Texas) they aren't immediately in the frame. Mexicans matter in Arizona and Nevada, but again are unloved by blacks who matter in almost every other swing state.

    -- Asians. The Chinese are boring. The Indians keep popping up everywhere but are unloved. Both seem kind of "foreign".

    -- Muslims. 'nuf said. Well ok, the obvious: the "immigration forever!" the Jews pushed inevitably means they'll be more Muslims than Jews in the US eventually. (Kaganovitch's heroic efforts notwithstanding.) At some point the Parasites might not even be a Jewish party. In the interim they have to do "stay apart!"

    -- White women. LOL. They are the Parasite Party's biggest vote bank and they are everywhere trying to run everything, full of very definite opinions--which are exactly in line with whatever they heard on the View or the morning shows. Since Jewish second wave feminism taught them that they are oppressed, they've A) have a chip on their shoulder about being heard and B) know--you go girl--that they should be running things and everything would be better if they did. It's a very, very feminized party and they provide the critical votes, so they're sort of right.

    There's only one problem. No one likes white women. Specifically these political you-go-girl church ladies. Very specifically no one is enamored by the thought of being led by a white woman President and being finger wagged and dictated to by her. The soy boys will dutifully vote for them. Most white men--even "progressives" would rather not--would rather have a guy. Black men definitely would not. And even black women have no use for them.

    But white women think they should be running the show. At least half the time. That a woman should always be on the ticket. And just on the bottom, but woman on top.

    ~~

    Sort through it all and again and again you come back to the same thing ... the best presidential candidate for the anti-white, anti-male "diversity!" party is a straight white gentile male! They seem ho-hum, they don't scare the (white) horses and do not stoke the intra-coalition-of-the-fringes ethnic conflicts.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Frau Katze, @Gandydancer

    “Immigration forever” used to be a Republican thing (cheap wages). I believe that Reagan was a proponent.

    At one point Dems tried to appeal to the working class, which included not flooding the country with low wage labour.

    This is more complex than “Jews are trying to replace us.”

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Frau Katze

    You're confused on that point. George W. Bush fits your description. His father was just feckless. Reagan was not an immigration hawk but did not hold the views you attribute to him.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    , @epebble
    @Frau Katze

    Illegal immigration appears to be the hottest of the hot button issues if you listen to MAGA campaign. However, mysteriously, not once during the first Trump administration, anyone thought of mandating E-Verify, which is a cost-free policy to greatly diminish employment inducement for illegal immigration. One is compelled to believe that Trump and MAGA want to keep illegal immigration as a hot button issue for political advantage and there is no desire to stop it in spite of all the 'Wall' talk.


    Research shows that E-Verify harms the labor market outcomes of illegal immigrants and improves the labor market outcomes of Mexican legal immigrants and U.S.-born Hispanics, but has no impact on labor market outcomes for non-Hispanic white Americans. A 2016 study suggests that E-Verify reduces the number of illegal immigrants in states that have mandated use of E-Verify for all employers, and further notes that the program may deter illegal immigration to the United States in general
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Verify
    , @Mr. Anon
    @Frau Katze


    “Immigration forever” used to be a Republican thing (cheap wages). I believe that Reagan was a proponent.
     
    No, you are completely wrong. Reagan was not a big immigration booster, although he got rolled on the Simpson-Mazzoli bill.

    Perhaps you should stick to commenting on things you know something about.

    Which, evidently, is nothing.
    , @Mr. Anon
    @Frau Katze


    This is more complex than “Jews are trying to replace us.”
     
    Not to some people:

    We Can Replace Them

    By Michelle Goldberg
    Opinion Columnist

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/opinion/stacey-abrams-georgia-governor-election-brian-kemp.html
     

    Bill Kristol asks if ‘lazy’ pockets of white working class should be replaced with ‘new Americans’

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/9/bill-kristol-asks-if-lazy-pockets-of-white-working/
     

    One Billion Americans: The Case for Thinking Bigger

    by Matthew Yglesias

    https://www.amazon.com/One-Billion-Americans-Thinking-Bigger/dp/0593190211
     

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    , @Mark G.
    @Frau Katze

    I tend to agree that hardworking immigrants are an asset to this country. That is not what we are getting, though. Most of the polling I have seen shows recent non-White immigrants, once they become citizens, vote for the pro-welfare Democrat party.

    A 2022 Pew survey found that Whites have a more positive view of capitalism than Asians, Hispanics or Blacks. The biggest gap here is between Whites and Blacks while the smallest is between Whites and Asians.

    Charles Murray has suggested that Asians are the non-White group most likely to switch parties. He says they vote Democrat now due to social rather than fiscal liberalism. For example, when legalized gay marriage came up for a vote in California Whites and Asians were for it while Hispanics and Blacks were against it. Asians also tend to be pro-choice on abortion. Just by avoiding extremist views on social issues, the Republican party could forge a political alliance between Whites and Asians.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Jonathan Mason, @epebble, @Reg Cæsar

  267. @Frau Katze
    @AnotherDad

    “Immigration forever” used to be a Republican thing (cheap wages). I believe that Reagan was a proponent.

    At one point Dems tried to appeal to the working class, which included not flooding the country with low wage labour.

    This is more complex than “Jews are trying to replace us.”

    Replies: @Art Deco, @epebble, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Mark G.

    You’re confused on that point. George W. Bush fits your description. His father was just feckless. Reagan was not an immigration hawk but did not hold the views you attribute to him.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Art Deco

    OK I looked it up:


    The Immigration Reform and Control Act altered U.S. immigration law by making it illegal to knowingly hire illegal immigrants, and establishing financial and other penalties for companies that employed illegal immigrants.

    The act also legalized most illegal immigrants who had arrived in the country prior to January 1, 1984.
     
    He did legalize most illegals.

    The part about not hiring illegals sounds good. I guess that’s no longer the law of the land ??

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @Art Deco, @Almost Missouri

  268. HA says:
    @YetAnotherAnon
    @HA

    Why can't you just accept that Putin is a Russian patriot ?

    He told you, loud and clear, but would you listen?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/apr/04/nato.russia


    Fri 4 Apr 2008 13.33 BST

    The Russian president, Vladimir Putin, today repeated his warning that Moscow would view any attempt to expand Nato to its borders as a "direct threat".

    Russia has been angered by the 26-nation military alliance's eastward growth, and Nato yesterday said Ukraine and Georgia, both former Soviet republics, could one day join.

     

    By making the stakes so high, the US have put their own status on the line. We're at a historical point of inflection, an asymptote if I remember my maths.

    Putin inherited a ransacked and bewildered country, with a poor and demoralized people,” Solzhenitsyn told the German magazine Der Spiegel in a 2007 interview, when Putin was still president. “And he started to do what was possible, a slow and gradual restoration. These efforts were not noticed, nor appreciated, immediately. In any case, one is hard-pressed to find examples in history when steps by one country to restore its strength were met favorably by other governments.
     

    Replies: @HA

    “Why can’t you just accept that Putin is a Russian patriot ?”

    Because that’s not the issue, is it? I’m sure plenty of people thought that Hitler, decorated war veteran, and tireless campaigner for German interests, was a German patriot, too. Again, it’s not relevant. No, it was all that warmongering and invading and mass slaughter that didn’t go over well, not the patriotism; after all, plenty of peaceful Germans had ample reserves of that.

    Similarly, what sane people take issue with is Putin’s decision to invade a country in order to get what he could have easily gotten without firing a single shot (you know, just like the fanboys claim that Nuland was able to do with little more than a basket of pastries and some persistence). As has been explained here dozens of time, if Putin is so hot and bothered about NATO, he should have resisted the temptation to tear off chunks of other countries, not to mention invading them, and that’s especially true of countries that Russia specifically promised to not invade and tear apart. Because that’s EXACTLY the kind of thing that makes said country want to join a security alliance like NATO — how is that a mystery to you or anyone else at this point?

    Ukraine’s populace had meager interest in joining up with NATO prior to Crimea’s swipe — we’re talking polling numbers consistently in the mid-20’s or so. Whereas after the swipe, push for NATO accession became the norm. You want to tell me that’s some curious coincidence? If it isn’t, then face it: it’s your boy’s fault that Ukraine wants to join NATO. He has no one to blame but himself, and maybe his idiot enablers in the West who realized far too late that he needs to be contained.

    • Agree: Art Deco, Jack D
    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    @HA

    You keep talking about how Russia's invasion made the (rump) Ukrainian population want to join NATO but don't show any signs of grasping that Crimea and the Donbas are now part of Russia instead of being a staging are for an anti-Russia cabal and rump Ukraine will probably have to agree to be NATO-free if it is to survive at all. After the coup Kyivan Ukraine was already a de-facto adjunct of NATO; now, going forward, that will no longer be the case. Whether invading Ukraine was worth it is an argument that can be had; that it made Russia's geopolitical position worse is a fantasy.

    Replies: @HA, @Jack D

  269. @Art Deco
    @R.G. Camara

    (same as he got in the primaries in 2016 by taking out the big dog, Jeb Bush, first, and then mopping up the littler fish one by one)
    ==
    When Trump declared, Scott Walker's campaign evaporated in a matter weeks and Bush trailed first Trump and then a mess of others. Bush was never competitive in any venue once actual balloting began. Trump's competition was Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich; the rest hardly registered. Cruz wasn't a 'little fish'. He won 1/4 of the ballots cast in the sum of all states. They weren't 'mopped up one by one'. Cruz and Kasich left the race at the same time.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    lol. Nice try on lying there, Jeffrey Goldberg.

    Jeb was the odds-on favorite in 2016. All the neocons and Fox News talking heads were hyping him. Even Greg Gutfeld of Fox News was on board, calling for him because of his “electability.” Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich were not the front runners; Jeb, with his successful governorship of Florida (still a swing state then), his Bush dynasty name, and his war chest, was seen by all as the incoming Republican candidate.

    Trump blew that out of the water. Trump’s style is not to roll up small victories, but to attack the biggest baddest opponent/problem first and then let the momentum carry him. And that was Jeb. Jeb was totally unprepared for such an attack; he expected that any frontal attack on him would come later once the other lessers had sorted themselves out. Jeb discovered his popularity and enthusiasm was skin-deep and he really didn’t have a following strong enough yet to withstand Trump’s blows. And the Bush name slowly was revealed to be mud amongst the right who hated endless wars and open borders. Trump’s seizing of the immigration issue while Jeb touted his Mexican wife and compassionate conservative/open boders/NAFTA credentials killed him. It led to the infamous moment where Jeb had to beg an audience to “please clap”.

    Trump eliminated Jeb first, and the rest were then on notice.

    Now go back to calling Trump Hitler at The Atlantic, being a war mongering war criminal, and working for Mrs. Jobs, the Epstein Island frequent flyer. You are dismissed, liar.

    • Thanks: Gordo
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @R.G. Camara

    iSteve commenter Art Deco is not Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg.

    You aren't a terrible commenter, so I've been trying to wean you off this insane delusion for years, but I'm getting tired of my kind efforts not bearing fruit.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Gordo, @Colin Wright, @Jack D, @Corvinus, @J.Ross, @R.G. Camara

    , @Corvinus
    @R.G. Camara

    We can’t wait for you to subscribe to Mr. Sailer’s Substack and make such pithy observations, Andrew Anglin. How much does Putin pay you?

  270. HA says:
    @Frau Katze
    @J.Ross

    What’s NAFO? The W-era? Tinkerbell CPR?

    What a cryptic post.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @HA

    “What’s NAFO?”

    He’s making an issue of online gadflies who have teamed up to post and repost online comical images of dogs (Shiba Inus, to be exact) that mock Putin. I know that seems hard to swallow, and there has to be something more to it, but I kid you not — that’s what we’re talking about.

    I mean, I thought throwing a conniption over being called “fanboys” was already a bit much, but no. Now they’re angry and threatened over being laughed at by dudes with beginner-level Photoshop skills posting pictures of Japanese dogs.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @HA

    Japanese dogs that mock Putin?

    Thanks for a good laugh. I had no idea such a thing existed.

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @HA

    "I mean, I thought throwing a conniption over being called “fanboys” was already a bit much, but no."

    You don't seem to understand. This is not about your idiotic politics regarding Russia/Ukraine, it is about aesthetics.

    To those of us who grew up reading real writers like Christgau and Lester Bangs, "fanboys" is just too damn *lazy*. You make my ears hurt; making my brain hurt was a foregone conclusion the moment you started babbling -- it's irrelevant. But "fanboys" is just pure nails on a chalkboard, nothing more. It's the Mount Everest of lazy and stupid.

    Don't flatter yourself. Wait, guess that ship has sailed.

    Replies: @HA

  271. @Frau Katze
    @AnotherDad

    “Immigration forever” used to be a Republican thing (cheap wages). I believe that Reagan was a proponent.

    At one point Dems tried to appeal to the working class, which included not flooding the country with low wage labour.

    This is more complex than “Jews are trying to replace us.”

    Replies: @Art Deco, @epebble, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Mark G.

    Illegal immigration appears to be the hottest of the hot button issues if you listen to MAGA campaign. However, mysteriously, not once during the first Trump administration, anyone thought of mandating E-Verify, which is a cost-free policy to greatly diminish employment inducement for illegal immigration. One is compelled to believe that Trump and MAGA want to keep illegal immigration as a hot button issue for political advantage and there is no desire to stop it in spite of all the ‘Wall’ talk.

    Research shows that E-Verify harms the labor market outcomes of illegal immigrants and improves the labor market outcomes of Mexican legal immigrants and U.S.-born Hispanics, but has no impact on labor market outcomes for non-Hispanic white Americans. A 2016 study suggests that E-Verify reduces the number of illegal immigrants in states that have mandated use of E-Verify for all employers, and further notes that the program may deter illegal immigration to the United States in general

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Verify

  272. @HA
    @Frau Katze

    "What’s NAFO?"

    He's making an issue of online gadflies who have teamed up to post and repost online comical images of dogs (Shiba Inus, to be exact) that mock Putin. I know that seems hard to swallow, and there has to be something more to it, but I kid you not -- that's what we're talking about.

    I mean, I thought throwing a conniption over being called "fanboys" was already a bit much, but no. Now they're angry and threatened over being laughed at by dudes with beginner-level Photoshop skills posting pictures of Japanese dogs.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Japanese dogs that mock Putin?

    Thanks for a good laugh. I had no idea such a thing existed.

  273. @Art Deco
    @Frau Katze

    You're confused on that point. George W. Bush fits your description. His father was just feckless. Reagan was not an immigration hawk but did not hold the views you attribute to him.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    OK I looked it up:

    The Immigration Reform and Control Act altered U.S. immigration law by making it illegal to knowingly hire illegal immigrants, and establishing financial and other penalties for companies that employed illegal immigrants.

    The act also legalized most illegal immigrants who had arrived in the country prior to January 1, 1984.

    He did legalize most illegals.

    The part about not hiring illegals sounds good. I guess that’s no longer the law of the land ??

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @Frau Katze

    "The part about not hiring illegals sounds good. I guess that’s no longer the law of the land ??"

    Still the law. The key word is "knowingly". As an employer you are required to ask a prospective employee if they are legally allowed to work in the US. If they say yes and provide acceptable ID which isn't obviously fake then you are okay hiring them. In fact you can get in trouble for inquiring further. Some of the acceptable IDs are easily faked and can be purchased for a few hundred dollars (or so I have heard). So this is an example of a fake law that pretends to address a problem without actually addressing it. Although I don't think it is enforced much anyway although some employers are too lazy to actually follow it and could get in trouble if anybody cared.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    , @Art Deco
    @Frau Katze

    Lawfare efforts by the ACLU among others rendered the employer verification part a dead letter. They couldn't have done that without the cooperation of the judiciary, of course. Our judges are awful.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Frau Katze



    The Immigration Reform and Control Act altered U.S. immigration law by making it illegal to knowingly hire illegal immigrants, and establishing financial and other penalties for companies that employed illegal immigrants.

    The act also legalized most illegal immigrants who had arrived in the country prior to January 1, 1984.
     
    He did legalize most illegals.
     
    Legalizing illegals was the Democrats' (who controlled Congress at the time) demand in order pass the Immigration Control bill. Legalizing illegals was not Reagan's objective; it was the price he had to pay to get the anti-immigration law he wanted.

    Of course after getting the amnesty (which turned out to be much bigger than they said it would be) the Dems simply double crossed Reagan and gutted, de-enforced, and defunded the rest of the Immigration Control Act.

    This is why you cannot do a deal with Dems. They will not keep their side.
  274. @Frau Katze
    @Art Deco

    OK I looked it up:


    The Immigration Reform and Control Act altered U.S. immigration law by making it illegal to knowingly hire illegal immigrants, and establishing financial and other penalties for companies that employed illegal immigrants.

    The act also legalized most illegal immigrants who had arrived in the country prior to January 1, 1984.
     
    He did legalize most illegals.

    The part about not hiring illegals sounds good. I guess that’s no longer the law of the land ??

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @Art Deco, @Almost Missouri

    “The part about not hiring illegals sounds good. I guess that’s no longer the law of the land ??”

    Still the law. The key word is “knowingly”. As an employer you are required to ask a prospective employee if they are legally allowed to work in the US. If they say yes and provide acceptable ID which isn’t obviously fake then you are okay hiring them. In fact you can get in trouble for inquiring further. Some of the acceptable IDs are easily faked and can be purchased for a few hundred dollars (or so I have heard). So this is an example of a fake law that pretends to address a problem without actually addressing it. Although I don’t think it is enforced much anyway although some employers are too lazy to actually follow it and could get in trouble if anybody cared.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @James B. Shearer

    Thanks for the info.

  275. @Anonymous
    @Gandydancer

    Look at her hairline.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    Not interested.

  276. @HA
    @Frau Katze

    "What’s NAFO?"

    He's making an issue of online gadflies who have teamed up to post and repost online comical images of dogs (Shiba Inus, to be exact) that mock Putin. I know that seems hard to swallow, and there has to be something more to it, but I kid you not -- that's what we're talking about.

    I mean, I thought throwing a conniption over being called "fanboys" was already a bit much, but no. Now they're angry and threatened over being laughed at by dudes with beginner-level Photoshop skills posting pictures of Japanese dogs.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “I mean, I thought throwing a conniption over being called “fanboys” was already a bit much, but no.”

    You don’t seem to understand. This is not about your idiotic politics regarding Russia/Ukraine, it is about aesthetics.

    To those of us who grew up reading real writers like Christgau and Lester Bangs, “fanboys” is just too damn *lazy*. You make my ears hurt; making my brain hurt was a foregone conclusion the moment you started babbling — it’s irrelevant. But “fanboys” is just pure nails on a chalkboard, nothing more. It’s the Mount Everest of lazy and stupid.

    Don’t flatter yourself. Wait, guess that ship has sailed.

    • Replies: @HA
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    "To those of us who grew up reading real writers like Christgau and Lester Bangs, “fanboys” is just too d@mn *lazy*."

    And yet, despite having that "Ignore commentator" button right there a click or two away, you and your fellow fanboys continue to repeatedly subject yourselves to pages and pages of my torturous pushback. What does that say about all of you? As for me, yeah, I sure must be "lazy" to be replying as much as I do -- you really got me figured out, don't you?

    And don't kid yourself. Given the hackneyed troll drivel I'm responding to, I give far better than I receive in terms of quality. You think you're the Algonquin Round Table? Think again.

    When it comes to you specifically, if you don't like my output, consider the possibility that your own drunken ramblings and thinly veiled cries of desperation (not to mention weird and creepy PJ Harvey fetishes -- I mean, seriously?) deserve no more than the response they elicit from me, which is typically silence and a reflexive urge to look away in second-hand embarrassment. Any time I'm tempted to be more harsh and dismissive, abject pity at the sight of the train wreck I'm witnessing blunts my response. I'm genuinely sorry the sobriety thing is not working out better, and hope you'll have more success with that down the line, but for now, just so as to avoid any regret on my part later on, I'll tell you this: whatever depths you continue to wallow in, in the misplaced hope that someone will find it entertaining, suicide is not the answer, regardless of whether it's slow, or else painfully drawn out. Consider yourself cautioned.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  277. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @AnotherDad

    A 16th CE Chinese scholar-official wrote a letter to a corrupt decadent emperor-- stating that he's a piece of shit. But if he gets his act together he can become a sage emperor ascribed in the classics.

    The emperor read the letter and went apeshit. Ordering the eunuchs to "Catch this man, don't let him get away!"

    The eunuch official replied: "Your majesty, this man is an idiot. He's waiting at home and has already prepared a casket."

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/%E6%B5%B7%E7%91%9E.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hai_Rui

    If your ideas are so brilliant go publish them under your real name. What do you have to lose?

    No. You trash your own women under anonymous handle and act like you are some tough guy.

    If you were ever doxxed you would shit your pants. Old turd.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Torna atrás

    Bromance, appreciate the story Hai Rui story. Not sure why you’ve got your panties all in a twist.

    — Rather obviously, i’m not in the Hai Rui situation. If I had a chance to stop “the emperor’s” insanity I would gladly build my coffin and do it. (I hope to go another 20 or so, but I care way, way, way about my kids and my country.)

    — BTW, I’m one of the easiest commenters here to dox, I’ve given a ton of personal info in comments over the years such that there’s only one person I could be–me. Problem is … who cares. I’m retired My family and friends already know I’m a “far right” Trump voting loon. (Our across the street neighbor came over Saturday afternoon nominally to welcome us back for the summer, but I think she also just wanted a friendly ear to talk about the Trump shooting. My next door neighbor will bend my ear whenever I’m here about the crazies in Seattle and everything going to hell. I’m already “out”.)

    — If you think my analysis of the Democrats situation–basically just Steve’s point that their “coalition of the fringes” has lots of internal fissures and is composed of groups who do not necessarily like or respect one another–is crappy, just cite where you disagree.

    — On the “trash your own women” thing. Stupid. (I like the women I like and have no use for treasonous virtue signaling women–white or not.) That women vote differently is one of the most well worn observations. (As Steve has pointed out, actually the “marriage gap” is bigger than the “gender gap”. It’s single women that are the Democrats real vote bank.)

    As to lots of men not wanting a female “top dog”–i.e. president–that’s something the other side claims as well. They just call it “sexism”. I think there’s good reasons for that “sexism”. And I think one of the biggest elements is behavioral–the “church lady”. No one really wants to get the finger waging lecture from a church lady. But–I was making this point to my kids just a couple weeks back–the old school church ladies did pro-social finger wagging–“sober up”, “stop gambling”, “support your family”, “keep your legs crossed”, etc. etc. Now we have this same attitudinal affect, but now the Democrat church ladies are finger wagging minoritarian lies and no one really wants to hear it. If you doubt this go talk to President Hillary Clinton.

    • Replies: @Torna atrás
    @AnotherDad

    In Japan, Andre the Giant often had to substitute hotel toilets for bathtubs. As a world-traveling pro wrestler, Andre the Giant did many tours of Japan. However, the hotel bathrooms in the Land of the Rising Sun are much smaller than they are in the United States, so Andre the Giant often times had to use the hotel bathtubs instead of toilets.

  278. @James B. Shearer
    @Jack D

    "... This is why 2 way stop signs have been replaced either by traffic lights .."

    There is now a light at the intersection. By one account:

    "In that interview, Herlihy said Neilia Biden either accelerated or drifted through the intersection, and Dunn could not stop. The truck driver said she was not looking at him, her face turned away, and the state police thought she was distracted by one of the children in the back seat. "

    Replies: @Gordo

    Which brings to mind for a British person the death of Liberal Party leader Jeremy Thorpe’s first wife.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @Gordo

    "Which brings to mind for a British person the death of Liberal Party leader Jeremy Thorpe’s first wife."

    Yes, somewhat similar circumstances.

    "The Coroner Mr. John Clarke recorded a verdict of accidental death, speculating that Mrs Thorpe may have been attending to baggage that might have become dislodged when she went round the Venture roundabout. ..."

    Jeremy Thorpe later developed Parkinsons.

    Replies: @Gordo

  279. @Frau Katze
    @AnotherDad

    “Immigration forever” used to be a Republican thing (cheap wages). I believe that Reagan was a proponent.

    At one point Dems tried to appeal to the working class, which included not flooding the country with low wage labour.

    This is more complex than “Jews are trying to replace us.”

    Replies: @Art Deco, @epebble, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Mark G.

    “Immigration forever” used to be a Republican thing (cheap wages). I believe that Reagan was a proponent.

    No, you are completely wrong. Reagan was not a big immigration booster, although he got rolled on the Simpson-Mazzoli bill.

    Perhaps you should stick to commenting on things you know something about.

    Which, evidently, is nothing.

    • Troll: Frau Katze
  280. @HA
    @Mark G.

    "The majority of Republicans do not really believe Putin is the next Hitler who is going to overrun Europe if we don’t stop him in the Ukraine."

    So says the guy who repeatedly calls people "fascist" whenever he loses an argument. I.e. not really in the best position to be accusing others of playing the Hitler card fast and loose.

    And Putin doesn't have to be Hitler to be a guy who needs containing. He just has to be an expansionist Peter-the-Great LARPER who promotes generals who claim that Ukraine is only a stepping stone, who cannot be relied to uphold the agreements his country already signed, and who threatens to launch nukes whenever he's not allowed to keep stealing more territory.

    To the extent Trump hasn't figured that out, it may well cost us, but learn he shall. I'm not convinced he won't cave on that the way he already caved before in allowing Johnson to pass the previous aid package, but I guess we'll see. And Zelensky also believed that the fact that Putin wasn't Hitler meant that Putin could be trusted. That, too, was a stupid mistake, and it cost him dearly. Trump, or Vance, or whoever wants to think it will work out differently for them, will likewise learn that lesson.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Mr. Anon

    And Putin doesn’t have to be Hitler to be a guy who needs containing.

    Then I suggest you hop a plane to Kiev, buy a rifle, and start containing, you loathsome piece of s**t.

    • Agree: Gordo, RadicalCenter
    • Troll: Frau Katze
    • Replies: @HA
    @Mr. Anon

    "you loathsome piece of s**t."

    See what I mean about the Algonquin Round Table? No sign of them. And are you still pretending not to read what I write? How's that working out for you? Not so well, apparently. I.e., the same as with the fanboys. Poor Ron Unz and that woefully underutilized Ignore-commentator button. I mean, why did he even bother?

    And it's summertime -- aren't there some kids on your lawn you need to be screaming at?

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  281. @Frau Katze
    @AnotherDad

    “Immigration forever” used to be a Republican thing (cheap wages). I believe that Reagan was a proponent.

    At one point Dems tried to appeal to the working class, which included not flooding the country with low wage labour.

    This is more complex than “Jews are trying to replace us.”

    Replies: @Art Deco, @epebble, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Mark G.

    This is more complex than “Jews are trying to replace us.”

    Not to some people:

    We Can Replace Them

    By Michelle Goldberg
    Opinion Columnist

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/opinion/stacey-abrams-georgia-governor-election-brian-kemp.html

    Bill Kristol asks if ‘lazy’ pockets of white working class should be replaced with ‘new Americans’

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/9/bill-kristol-asks-if-lazy-pockets-of-white-working/

    One Billion Americans: The Case for Thinking Bigger

    by Matthew Yglesias

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Mr. Anon

    I read the article at the first link.

    It was mostly a big admiring piece about black woman Stacey Abrams against white nationalists.

    I found an interesting comment on the article:


    Not only did Stacey Abrams burn the flag of Georgia (not mentioned in this piece), she is fiscally irresponsible.

    According to a recent NYT opinion piece by none other than Michele Goldberg, Stacey Abrams is more than $200,000 in personal debt, including $54,000 to the IRS. And Ms. Abrams has given $50,000 to her campaign instead of paying off most of her IRS debt. You must be kidding!

    Ms. Goldberg's earlier piece tried to portray Ms. Abrams as working-class, whereas in fact she has a law degree from Yale, worked as a tax attorney, and co-founded a financial services firm.

    Even now, 19 years after getting her law degree, Ms. Abrams still has an outstanding student loan balance of six figures and a five-figure balance due the IRS. Perhaps she needs to go back to Yale (or even a local community college) for a refresher course on personal finances.

    How could anyone believe Ms. Abrams could possibly manage the finances of an entire state? This is not a matter of party or race or gender; it is about someone's blatant and longstanding inability to manage her personal finances responsibly. This is a very bad sign for someone running for governor.
     
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/opinion/stacey-abrams-georgia-governor-election-brian-kemp.html

    I never read Michelle Goldberg. She’s definitely odious. Full agreement on that.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  282. @R.G. Camara
    @Art Deco

    lol. Nice try on lying there, Jeffrey Goldberg.

    Jeb was the odds-on favorite in 2016. All the neocons and Fox News talking heads were hyping him. Even Greg Gutfeld of Fox News was on board, calling for him because of his "electability." Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich were not the front runners; Jeb, with his successful governorship of Florida (still a swing state then), his Bush dynasty name, and his war chest, was seen by all as the incoming Republican candidate.

    Trump blew that out of the water. Trump's style is not to roll up small victories, but to attack the biggest baddest opponent/problem first and then let the momentum carry him. And that was Jeb. Jeb was totally unprepared for such an attack; he expected that any frontal attack on him would come later once the other lessers had sorted themselves out. Jeb discovered his popularity and enthusiasm was skin-deep and he really didn't have a following strong enough yet to withstand Trump's blows. And the Bush name slowly was revealed to be mud amongst the right who hated endless wars and open borders. Trump's seizing of the immigration issue while Jeb touted his Mexican wife and compassionate conservative/open boders/NAFTA credentials killed him. It led to the infamous moment where Jeb had to beg an audience to "please clap".

    Trump eliminated Jeb first, and the rest were then on notice.

    Now go back to calling Trump Hitler at The Atlantic, being a war mongering war criminal, and working for Mrs. Jobs, the Epstein Island frequent flyer. You are dismissed, liar.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Corvinus

    iSteve commenter Art Deco is not Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg.

    You aren’t a terrible commenter, so I’ve been trying to wean you off this insane delusion for years, but I’m getting tired of my kind efforts not bearing fruit.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Steve Sailer

    There are lots of theories presented in yo9ur comment section, some more insane than others. The question is why do you care about this one so much?

    Your "kind efforts" have been nothing more than snarky and mocking one liners. Take a bow!

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    , @Gordo
    @Steve Sailer

    I assumed it was a long running joke !

    , @Colin Wright
    @Steve Sailer


    'iSteve commenter Art Deco is not Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg.'
     
    Well, I like the idea.
    , @Jack D
    @Steve Sailer

    He thinks I am a "Fed" also and tags everything I write as a troll on that basis.

    TBH, insane delusions are not uncommon among the Men of Unz.

    , @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    “You aren’t a terrible commenter”

    That was a knee slapper.

    Now on your Substack, there was a fellow contributor who made an interesting observation. What do you think? You know, throw us some scraps.

    —Last weekend has changed the course of American political history. A narrow miss to Donald Trump’s head has unified the American Right. It is imperative for every conservative to know that now is the time to take charge of the political climate in 2024 and onward. Republicans must take this opportunity to not just remain relevant, but to become powerful.

    To do this successfully, conservatives must do two things: First, they must unapologetically support Donald Trump in his run for President in the 2024 election. Second, the movement must shed its desire to protect civility politics. Conservatives must not shy away from seeking retribution for progressive transgressions. If there was ever a time to “cancel” your leftist co-worker, now is the time. If they had ever wished for the death of Donald Trump, members of his administration, his SCOTUS selections, or his supporters, now is the time to respond. Respectability politics is a dead game.



    Of course, there is no telling what exactly Crooks’ political inclinations were (it is painfully misaligned and gives every signal of a maladaptive individual) and it most likely wasn’t his intention to kill Comepratore especially. That is not up for debate. Crooks’ actions do provide a definite heuristic for even your most banal, midwit IQ American can: they want you dead.—

    , @J.Ross
    @Steve Sailer

    Absolutely. Goldberg's an idiot, a blatherer, and a Democrat. Art Deco is consistently knowledgable about recorded statistics, represents classic center-right thinking of his generation, and is to the point.

    , @R.G. Camara
    @Steve Sailer

    If you want me to stop mentioning it, fine. It won't stop it being true, though. It seems obvious to me. After all, who threatens a random commentators with defamation because he calls a specific neocon a warmongering war criminal and traitor?

    Lots of people here say similar (and true) things about various public figures and neocon types. Only Art Deco took such personal offense when I called Jeffrey Goldberg a war mongering war criminal and traitor. Went ape on my for it, wished for the right to sue me. The only people who would react so personally would be Jeffrey Goldberg himself or someone close to him; no one else would care that much. Plus Art Deco's world view is consistently beltway neocon, just like Goldberg, the IDF goon. So, therefore, Art Deco is very likely the man himself, or someone close to him. QED.

    And that brings up another question: why do you care so much? Your commentators make lots of bold assertions and insults about public figures all the time. My harping on it is annoying, of course, if you don't agree, but you could just ignore, as you ignore so many other comments here. Its puzzling why my little conspiracy theory and tit-for-tat with him draws your ire.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  283. @Gandydancer
    @Anonymous

    Are you sure that's a woman? Looks like a tranny.
    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/25/01/3C7A82B400000578-0-image-a-40_1485307882627.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Gordo

    A tranny would have been taller and therefore more able to shield Trump.

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Gordo

    Yes a tranny would LIKELY have been better able to do that job. But you're conflating "would have" with "likely would have". Also two different female[?] SS agents.

    And trannys are mentally ill and often suicidal. I wouldn't trust one enough to allow him/her into the Secret Service.

  284. @Colin Wright
    @Bragadocious


    'Maybe you hyperventilating clowns should stop with the Israel stuff...'
     
    Disagree. We do many foolish, selfish, self-destructive things. The one act of outright evil we engage in is to support Israel. It's like I drink too much, take out pay day loans -- and molest small children. Which behavior should I address first?

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    The flood of immigration is the most evil thing. But the good news is once the Hindus, Chinese and mestizos are in charge the support for Israel will wane.

  285. @Steve Sailer
    @R.G. Camara

    iSteve commenter Art Deco is not Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg.

    You aren't a terrible commenter, so I've been trying to wean you off this insane delusion for years, but I'm getting tired of my kind efforts not bearing fruit.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Gordo, @Colin Wright, @Jack D, @Corvinus, @J.Ross, @R.G. Camara

    There are lots of theories presented in yo9ur comment section, some more insane than others. The question is why do you care about this one so much?

    Your “kind efforts” have been nothing more than snarky and mocking one liners. Take a bow!

    • Agree: R.G. Camara
    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @Mike Tre


    The question is why do you care about this one so much?
     
    Exactly. Lots of commentators have wackyg or tenuous theories here, but this one seems to have really gotten to our Blog Master.
  286. Anonymous[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon
    @Gandydancer


    Is this just your impression or do you have data on this? My impression is different. It certainly seems to me that the swastika was more prominent in anti-German propaganda images than your claim would suggest.
     
    Well, given that it was on their flag, yeah. Do I have data on it? No. What data could I possible have? What data do you have?

    It is my impression - the impression of somebody who lived in an era when WWII veterans were still thick on the ground, including among my own relatives, and when WWII movies made in the couple decades after the war were still airing on television. It's not that the term "Nazi" was never used, but it was not used exclusively as it largely seems to be now.

    That generation - the generation of men that actually fought the war on the allied side - had a much more nuanced, less comic-book-like version of the events of that time. They even admired German soldiers, sailors, and airmen as brave and capable warriors, even though they despised the regime they fought for. They read biographies about them.

    Replies: @Corn, @Anonymous, @Gandydancer, @Colinsky

    That generation – the generation of men that actually fought the war on the allied side – had a much more nuanced, less comic-book-like version of the events of that time. They even admired German soldiers, sailors, and airmen as brave and capable warriors, even though they despised the regime they fought for.

    If they despised “the regime,” it was due to jewish/Allied/Soviet propaganda. Patton wouldn’t have said we fought on the wrong side if he thought “the Holocaust” had really happened.

  287. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    Trump, describing the assassination [sic], lied blatantly thus:

    "I moved my right hand to my ear, brought it down. My hand was covered in blood. Just absolutely blood all over the place."

    The iconic staged photo-op clearly shows a fist-pumping right hand immaculately free of blood, dirt, or grime. Trump bladed himself.

    Replies: @Adam Smith

  288. @Colin Wright
    @Almost Missouri


    'I don’t quite understand the DNC’s aversion to running with Kamala...'
     
    The problem is that nobody likes her. In those primaries she entered in 2020, her vote tallies were literally in the hundreds. Just last week in a poll in Georgia -- a very black state -- Biden did four percent better against Trump than she did. They both lost, but Harris lost worse. Blacks don't like her -- not that she's black.

    Some people shouldn't run for office. It doesn't even have much to do with personal qualities. It's just a matter of who people will like. People liked Reagan. They wouldn't like me. They don't like Kamala Harris.

    They never will. She shouldn't seek public office.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    The US Senate seems to be a broken institution. Like you said, nobody likes Kamala. She can’t work a room, she has no stage presence or gravitas, she can’t even dress well. She’s an awkward phony and midwit. Nobody likes Lindsay Graham. Nobody liked John McCain or Joe Lieberman. Joe Biden has always been regarded as a buffoon and a creep. Yet there they are, US Senators.

    “District Attorney” and “Attorney General” are easy places to park mediocrities being groomed for higher office. The real lawyers do the actual legal work and all the DA and AG have to do is hold press conferences.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  289. @Steve Sailer
    @R.G. Camara

    iSteve commenter Art Deco is not Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg.

    You aren't a terrible commenter, so I've been trying to wean you off this insane delusion for years, but I'm getting tired of my kind efforts not bearing fruit.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Gordo, @Colin Wright, @Jack D, @Corvinus, @J.Ross, @R.G. Camara

    I assumed it was a long running joke !

    • Agree: William Badwhite
  290. I not the RNC never had a moment of silence for the late Shannon Doherty. She did sing the national anthem to open the 1988 convention.

  291. @Frau Katze
    @Art Deco

    OK I looked it up:


    The Immigration Reform and Control Act altered U.S. immigration law by making it illegal to knowingly hire illegal immigrants, and establishing financial and other penalties for companies that employed illegal immigrants.

    The act also legalized most illegal immigrants who had arrived in the country prior to January 1, 1984.
     
    He did legalize most illegals.

    The part about not hiring illegals sounds good. I guess that’s no longer the law of the land ??

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @Art Deco, @Almost Missouri

    Lawfare efforts by the ACLU among others rendered the employer verification part a dead letter. They couldn’t have done that without the cooperation of the judiciary, of course. Our judges are awful.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Thanks: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @Art Deco

    "Lawfare efforts by the ACLU among others rendered the employer verification part a dead letter. ..."

    This isn't really accurate. The law was written in a way that made it likely to be ineffective.

  292. @Steve Sailer
    @R.G. Camara

    iSteve commenter Art Deco is not Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg.

    You aren't a terrible commenter, so I've been trying to wean you off this insane delusion for years, but I'm getting tired of my kind efforts not bearing fruit.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Gordo, @Colin Wright, @Jack D, @Corvinus, @J.Ross, @R.G. Camara

    ‘iSteve commenter Art Deco is not Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg.’

    Well, I like the idea.

  293. @Frau Katze
    @AnotherDad

    “Immigration forever” used to be a Republican thing (cheap wages). I believe that Reagan was a proponent.

    At one point Dems tried to appeal to the working class, which included not flooding the country with low wage labour.

    This is more complex than “Jews are trying to replace us.”

    Replies: @Art Deco, @epebble, @Mr. Anon, @Mr. Anon, @Mark G.

    I tend to agree that hardworking immigrants are an asset to this country. That is not what we are getting, though. Most of the polling I have seen shows recent non-White immigrants, once they become citizens, vote for the pro-welfare Democrat party.

    A 2022 Pew survey found that Whites have a more positive view of capitalism than Asians, Hispanics or Blacks. The biggest gap here is between Whites and Blacks while the smallest is between Whites and Asians.

    Charles Murray has suggested that Asians are the non-White group most likely to switch parties. He says they vote Democrat now due to social rather than fiscal liberalism. For example, when legalized gay marriage came up for a vote in California Whites and Asians were for it while Hispanics and Blacks were against it. Asians also tend to be pro-choice on abortion. Just by avoiding extremist views on social issues, the Republican party could forge a political alliance between Whites and Asians.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Mark G.

    Good points. Thanks (I’m out of response buttons),

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Mark G.


    A 2022 Pew survey found that Whites have a more positive view of capitalism than Asians, Hispanics or Blacks. The biggest gap here is between Whites and Blacks while the smallest is between Whites and Asians.
     
    I think the question is not capitalism vs socialism, but which is more competent in delivering services to populations.

    In the 1980s UK Mrs Thatcher strongly believed that privatization would improve the end product of many services that had been nationalized after World War II, for example health, water, railroads, airlines, postal services which were deemed to be inefficient.

    However, privatized water companies have not delivered very well in recent times and the largest water utility in the UK, Thames Water is on the verge of a massive bankruptcy that will surely require the injection of public cash nd is releasing sewerage into rivers (totally illegally.) The new Labour administration is talking about renationalizing some rail lines, and the National Health Service stumbles from crisis to crisis and is to a large extent staffed by immigrants.

    The only way to know which is really best is to have controlled trials, for example one state has privatized water and another has a public water utility for a given period of time, but both have equal access to natural resources.

    In my view there is not a whole lot of difference. I worked for many years in the public sector in the United States and I would say that the majority of employees in responsible positions were conscientious and genuinely interested in providing the best possible service to customers and clients.

    The problem with public services is that they often offer better pensions and benefits than capitalist organizations that have to return a percentage of turnover to shareholders.

    The problem with for-profit is how to provide a good return to shareholders and at the same time deliver superior services, without providing this at the personal expense of employees.

    A huge issue in the US that does not get discussed much is the poor quality of care delivered to poor, elderly people in for-profit nursing homes that turn Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements into profits.

    Since immigrants usually start off at the foot of the ladder, it is perhaps not surprising that they tend to prefer the relative security of public employment to working for for-profit companies.

    However, I think it is a mistake to think that capitalism is inherently morally superior, even if it delivers an inferior end product.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Art Deco, @Art Deco

    , @epebble
    @Mark G.

    Just by avoiding extremist views on social issues, the Republican party could forge a political alliance between Whites and Asians.

    It is not that simple, if the Republican party yields a little on social conservatism, they risk losing the Evangelical support, which is the mirror reflection of what Black vote is for Democrats. Republicans can't afford to yield a little on the issues dear to Evangelicals just as Democrats can't yield on Black issues. Since, arithmetically, there are more Evangelical votes than Asian votes, it does not help Republicans to yield on social issues.

    As an example, since Trump started supporting 'State's rights' on abortion for pragmatic reason i.e. not to lose elections, he is attracting resistance from some pro-life corners for abandoning federal support for abortion ban.

    https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/under-trump-gop-softens-abortion-stance-some-michigan-conservatives-dismayed

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-risks-losing-key-voter-base-opposition-arizona-abortion-law-pro-lifers-say

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Mark G.


    Most of the polling I have seen shows recent non-White immigrants, once they become citizens, vote for the pro-welfare Democrat party.
     
    Poor immigrants-- the number of which should be zero-- obviously will vote for welfare. The question is, why do the well-off Chinese and Indians vote for it? Or well-off whites, for that matter?

    Asians also tend to be pro-choice on abortion. Just by avoiding extremist views on social issues
     
    When America was still white, "pro-choice" was the extremist position. "Elective" was a dirty word. The likes of Hugh Hefner, Ayn Rand, David Reuben, etc. Roe came out of left field. Just a few months before, the New York legislature repealed the legalization it had passed only two years earlier.

    Replies: @Mark G.

  294. @Gordo
    @James B. Shearer

    Which brings to mind for a British person the death of Liberal Party leader Jeremy Thorpe’s first wife.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    “Which brings to mind for a British person the death of Liberal Party leader Jeremy Thorpe’s first wife.”

    Yes, somewhat similar circumstances.

    “The Coroner Mr. John Clarke recorded a verdict of accidental death, speculating that Mrs Thorpe may have been attending to baggage that might have become dislodged when she went round the Venture roundabout. …”

    Jeremy Thorpe later developed Parkinsons.

    • Replies: @Gordo
    @James B. Shearer

    She may have found out that Jeremy enjoyed himself by submitting to sodomy.

    Not unusual for an anti-racist amd anti-Apartheid activist I would imagine.

  295. @Art Deco
    @Frau Katze

    Lawfare efforts by the ACLU among others rendered the employer verification part a dead letter. They couldn't have done that without the cooperation of the judiciary, of course. Our judges are awful.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    “Lawfare efforts by the ACLU among others rendered the employer verification part a dead letter. …”

    This isn’t really accurate. The law was written in a way that made it likely to be ineffective.

  296. @Mr. Anon
    @Gandydancer


    Are you sure that’s a woman? Looks like a tranny.
     
    That's ridiculous. She looks like a woman. Totally Adam's Apple free. Not the most girly, feminine woman in the World, but a woman who was wouldn't join the Secret Service. Mind you, even those woman who try to butch-up for traditionally masculine jobs don't seem to be very good at them. They seem to view masculinity as just a pose, when actually it is a fundamental trait of the male sex.

    You sound kinda like commenter "Truth", who thinks that every woman is a tranny. Do you think that Michell Obama is really "Big Mike"?

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    That’s ridiculous. She looks like a woman. Totally Adam’s Apple free.

    No, it’s not. I don’t really think she[?] is a tranny, but I’ve totally seen trannys who look more feminine than her[?]. Are you sure your sources of info on this would give you the straight skinny if she[?] were?? Quite apart from the ideology that she[?] would totally be a woman even if she[?] still had a dingle in her[?] pants counting her[?] as that would be very convenient for meeting goals and timetables. Wake up and smell the coffee, it’s the 21st Century.

    Do you think that Michell Obama is really “Big Mike”?

    Nah, I don’t buy into any of the “evidence” I’ve seen for that. Big woman, but her brother is bigger. And I don’t think her kids are cuckoos.

  297. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Mr. Anon

    "He [Vance] said it was more than “just an idea”. But still, that’s better than I’ve heard from any other American politician. It was novel that he actually stated what is obviously true that America is a people and a nation."

    Actually at this point, for practical/satirical purposes, I'd prefer it if we really did advertise that America was "just an idea" and not a real place that you could sneak into and loot.

    We could say to immigrants, "America is really just an idea; so, we are going to print out the idea, and fax or mail it to you, and then you can stay at home and implement the idea, at home in the comfort of your native toilet bowl. No need to come here! Besides, there's no place to actually come to; we're *just* an idea!"

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @RadicalCenter

    You’re a real mean spirited jackass to call all those toilet bowl countries. Exactly the arrogant, childish, hypocritical Fatmerican Way.

    A rapidly increasing number of Americans, Canadians, and “british” are starting to acquire legal residence, sometimes citizenship in some of the alleged toilet bowl countries — not for retirement, either, but far earlier in life (for people who can do their jobs, or run their business, online).

    Moreover, some of the so-called toilet bowl countries are at least improving, on balance, while we agree that the USA is, well, circling the toilet bowl. Take a look at BOTH urban areas and many rural areas and tell us that they’re not: permanently economically depressed, lazy or demoralized and unproductive, unsafe, culturally savage / vulgar / hypersexualized / perverse, deindustrialized, physically filthy and ugly, unhealthy, low-trust, fearful, hopeless places with decaying infrastructure, inadequate hospital capacity that hasn’t increased in decades, etc.

    And by the way, many people with resources — hence real options around the world — are NOT moving to the USA, but elsewhere. People looking to TAKE from us are coming in greater numbers than ever. People who have supported themselves and their families effectively, and who cannot stomach the US’s systematic ignorance and bullying / mass-murdering abroad and surveillance and anti-white hatred and anti-family media and schools and perversion and garbage culture, are flowing, net, out of the USA, Canada, and the “uk.” Including our family.

    Enjoy your toilet bowl country, Fatmerican.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @RadicalCenter

    Bro says this:

    "You’re a real mean spirited jackass to call all those toilet bowl countries. Exactly the arrogant, childish, hypocritical Fatmerican Way."

    ...and then proceeds to go on a multi post mean spirited, arrogant, childish, hypocritical, self awareness lacking binge rant.

    Nice.

    , @David Davenport
    @RadicalCenter

    Enjoy your toilet bowl country, Fatmerican.

    We're glad that you're leaving North America.

  298. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Colin Wright

    Problem then is, it's one thing to attempt to fix the problem. The challenge is naming the forces/cause of the problem in the first place.

    "Yeah, it's the---" That's a tough sell in 2024, especially as they tend to own the MSM, Hollywood, most of Social Media, pop culture, academia, etc.

    So how exactly do you proceed to explicitly, straight up, name the problem?

    We has pickle, we does.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘So how exactly do you proceed to explicitly, straight up, name the problem?

    We has pickle, we does.’

    Indeed. If one of us does it, he’ll be sent to Kanye West Land. Going by past behavior, if enough of us do it at once, the Jews will hastily retreat. It’ll be back to ‘Americans all’ and framing everything in terms of Christian values, and Jewish baseball stars, and such.

    …and that just means we’ll be going in circles. Worse, unlike some, I don’t think Jews are actually bad people; it’s just the aggregate effect that’s intolerable. I refuse to consider solutions that are unnecessarily inhumane.

    It’d be a trick to bypass the people hanging from telephone poles stage, but I think that if we can merely name the problem, and make that the consensus view, we could be home free. On the one hand, Jews seem to be perfectly amenable to being locked up in ghettoes — witness the behavior of the ultra-orthodox in New York. They want their own communities, schools, courts, etc.

    Great: if you want to keep being Jewish, have that. They can be isolated and out of the mainstream — and so reasonably harmless. Jews have spent hundreds of years in such conditions; there, and yet largely irrelevant to the life of the larger community.

    On the other hand, if Jews want to keep being lawyers, professors, etc — they’re going to have to renounce Judaism. And actually, Jews who renounce Judaism — however superficial the renunciation — vanish. I believe the history of Europe shows this. All these people keep discovering great-grandfather was a Jew. But the great-grandchildren really aren’t; hidden, the identity inevitably goes away.

    At least, so I would be prepared to hope. We can skip the horrors; all we need to do is to say is ‘if you want to keep being Jewish, you’re going to have to do it on your own. You can’t be Jewish and among us.’

    …I would say give them their own land — but all the lands are taken. The Palestinians didn’t do anything to deserve having them inflicted on them. To adopt this solution merely avoids inhumanity to the Jews by inflicting the inhumanity on some group that is quite innocent but too small and weak to prevent it. The Jews are our problem to solve.

    • Agree: Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  299. @Mr. Anon
    @Gandydancer


    Is this just your impression or do you have data on this? My impression is different. It certainly seems to me that the swastika was more prominent in anti-German propaganda images than your claim would suggest.
     
    Well, given that it was on their flag, yeah. Do I have data on it? No. What data could I possible have? What data do you have?

    It is my impression - the impression of somebody who lived in an era when WWII veterans were still thick on the ground, including among my own relatives, and when WWII movies made in the couple decades after the war were still airing on television. It's not that the term "Nazi" was never used, but it was not used exclusively as it largely seems to be now.

    That generation - the generation of men that actually fought the war on the allied side - had a much more nuanced, less comic-book-like version of the events of that time. They even admired German soldiers, sailors, and airmen as brave and capable warriors, even though they despised the regime they fought for. They read biographies about them.

    Replies: @Corn, @Anonymous, @Gandydancer, @Colinsky

    Do I have data on it? No. What data could I possible have? What data do you have?

    I’m not the one who made the claim. And my impression is as good as yours. But I’m glad we clarified that your statement was based on nothing tangible.

    What is your impression of when this transition took place?

    Yes, the swastika was on the German flag. But the swastika used in propaganda posters was not usually on a flag. And I’ve been a history buff for almost 60 years and the instances of my hearing soldiers calling the Germans “Nazis” instead of “Germans” in memoirs and oral histories are innumerable. Maybe less for “good Germans” like, say, Rommel (despite his history in LAH!) but no, I haven’t seen any increase in calling Germans of the time “Nazis”. Maybe the opposite.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Gandydancer


    I’m not the one who made the claim.
     
    You made your own claim, which you justified with nothing but your impression.

    But I’m glad we clarified that your statement was based on nothing tangible.
     
    No, my impressions are tangible. As tangible as anybody's are. Certainly as tangible as yours are.

    But we did clarify that your opinion is based on nothing but your impression.


    ......but no, I haven’t seen any increase in calling Germans of the time “Nazis”. Maybe the opposite.
     
    Then you are either not very observant or you are just lying.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

  300. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @danand

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNHdPPJGowY&list=RDGMEMJQXQAmqrnmK1SEjY_rKBGA&start_radio=1&rv=xwTPvcPYaOo

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    There’s definitely no accounting for taste.

  301. @anonymous
    @Mark G.

    Very hard to imagine fighting Iran, Russia, and China at the same time. It's setting the military up for failure.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon, @Jonathan Mason

    Very hard to imagine fighting Iran, Russia, and China at the same time. It’s setting the military up for failure.

    Especially as they can bring the whole USA to its knees with a Windows update. Or with Tiktok.

  302. @James B. Shearer
    @Frau Katze

    "The part about not hiring illegals sounds good. I guess that’s no longer the law of the land ??"

    Still the law. The key word is "knowingly". As an employer you are required to ask a prospective employee if they are legally allowed to work in the US. If they say yes and provide acceptable ID which isn't obviously fake then you are okay hiring them. In fact you can get in trouble for inquiring further. Some of the acceptable IDs are easily faked and can be purchased for a few hundred dollars (or so I have heard). So this is an example of a fake law that pretends to address a problem without actually addressing it. Although I don't think it is enforced much anyway although some employers are too lazy to actually follow it and could get in trouble if anybody cared.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    Thanks for the info.

  303. @BB753
    @vinteuil

    Except Blacks have a birth replacement rate, Whites do not. I see what Tucker did there.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Thankfully, Affican-“amerians” have a total fertility rate decidedly below replacement level in recent years:

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/226292/us-fertility-rates-by-race-and-ethnicity/

    The bigger demographic problems are white fertility rates that are FARTHER below replacement level, and sustained legal immigration from high-TFR Africa, from India / Pakistan/ Bangladesh, and less capable/assimilable mestizo and indio people from central/south American countries.

    • Thanks: BB753
  304. @Mark G.
    @Frau Katze

    I tend to agree that hardworking immigrants are an asset to this country. That is not what we are getting, though. Most of the polling I have seen shows recent non-White immigrants, once they become citizens, vote for the pro-welfare Democrat party.

    A 2022 Pew survey found that Whites have a more positive view of capitalism than Asians, Hispanics or Blacks. The biggest gap here is between Whites and Blacks while the smallest is between Whites and Asians.

    Charles Murray has suggested that Asians are the non-White group most likely to switch parties. He says they vote Democrat now due to social rather than fiscal liberalism. For example, when legalized gay marriage came up for a vote in California Whites and Asians were for it while Hispanics and Blacks were against it. Asians also tend to be pro-choice on abortion. Just by avoiding extremist views on social issues, the Republican party could forge a political alliance between Whites and Asians.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Jonathan Mason, @epebble, @Reg Cæsar

    Good points. Thanks (I’m out of response buttons),

  305. @Mark G.
    @Frau Katze

    I tend to agree that hardworking immigrants are an asset to this country. That is not what we are getting, though. Most of the polling I have seen shows recent non-White immigrants, once they become citizens, vote for the pro-welfare Democrat party.

    A 2022 Pew survey found that Whites have a more positive view of capitalism than Asians, Hispanics or Blacks. The biggest gap here is between Whites and Blacks while the smallest is between Whites and Asians.

    Charles Murray has suggested that Asians are the non-White group most likely to switch parties. He says they vote Democrat now due to social rather than fiscal liberalism. For example, when legalized gay marriage came up for a vote in California Whites and Asians were for it while Hispanics and Blacks were against it. Asians also tend to be pro-choice on abortion. Just by avoiding extremist views on social issues, the Republican party could forge a political alliance between Whites and Asians.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Jonathan Mason, @epebble, @Reg Cæsar

    A 2022 Pew survey found that Whites have a more positive view of capitalism than Asians, Hispanics or Blacks. The biggest gap here is between Whites and Blacks while the smallest is between Whites and Asians.

    I think the question is not capitalism vs socialism, but which is more competent in delivering services to populations.

    In the 1980s UK Mrs Thatcher strongly believed that privatization would improve the end product of many services that had been nationalized after World War II, for example health, water, railroads, airlines, postal services which were deemed to be inefficient.

    However, privatized water companies have not delivered very well in recent times and the largest water utility in the UK, Thames Water is on the verge of a massive bankruptcy that will surely require the injection of public cash nd is releasing sewerage into rivers (totally illegally.) The new Labour administration is talking about renationalizing some rail lines, and the National Health Service stumbles from crisis to crisis and is to a large extent staffed by immigrants.

    The only way to know which is really best is to have controlled trials, for example one state has privatized water and another has a public water utility for a given period of time, but both have equal access to natural resources.

    In my view there is not a whole lot of difference. I worked for many years in the public sector in the United States and I would say that the majority of employees in responsible positions were conscientious and genuinely interested in providing the best possible service to customers and clients.

    The problem with public services is that they often offer better pensions and benefits than capitalist organizations that have to return a percentage of turnover to shareholders.

    The problem with for-profit is how to provide a good return to shareholders and at the same time deliver superior services, without providing this at the personal expense of employees.

    A huge issue in the US that does not get discussed much is the poor quality of care delivered to poor, elderly people in for-profit nursing homes that turn Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements into profits.

    Since immigrants usually start off at the foot of the ladder, it is perhaps not surprising that they tend to prefer the relative security of public employment to working for for-profit companies.

    However, I think it is a mistake to think that capitalism is inherently morally superior, even if it delivers an inferior end product.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jonathan Mason

    Water delivery and gas and electric provision to customers are natural monopolies, so the benefits of private ownership are more circumscribed than would be the case for any other industry and contingent on how the regulatory authorities, the unions, and management interact.
    ==
    Inter-city rail service is not a natural monopoly due to ready substitutes, so not a proper candidate for nationalization. It may be injured by regulatory authorities or by cannibalization by unions. If the Labour Party wants to renationalize it, it is to provide opportunities for more cannibalization (subsidized with tax money).
    ==
    The National Health Service in Britain has taken over the social and cultural position once occupied by the Church of England.
    ==
    Please recall what Mrs. Thatcher was confronting in 1979: public enterprise in a whole mess of competitive industries (among them coal and steel) which in turn were abused by boss-ridden unions run by the likes of Arthur Scargill. Also, about 20% of the housing stock was owned by municipal government and rent regulations had injured the market for private rental housing. All of that was gratuitous and should have been cleared off.

    , @Art Deco
    @Jonathan Mason

    A huge issue in the US that does not get discussed much is the poor quality of care delivered to poor, elderly people in for-profit nursing homes that turn Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements into profits.
    ==
    It's not a huge issue.
    ==
    Some nursing homes are better than others. Medicaid is the primary means of financing nursing home care for every segment of society. People with the means for private pay will be in assisted living up until the point their memory or mobility is so impaired that it is beyond the ken of assisted living staff. While you find a minority in nursing homes for years on end, the mean time billeted therein is about a year. A great many people require nursing home care at the end of their lives, but it's generally the but end.

    , @Art Deco
    @Jonathan Mason

    Since immigrants usually start off at the foot of the ladder, it is perhaps not surprising that they tend to prefer the relative security of public employment to working for for-profit companies.
    ==
    The relative security is a function of rent-seeking by attentive publics. We benefit from capable public employees, but if the recruitment and promotion method is dysfunctional and the disciplinary system is lax, we aren't getting capable public employees. We certainly do not need DEI hires from abroad.

  306. @Mr. Anon
    @Frau Katze


    This is more complex than “Jews are trying to replace us.”
     
    Not to some people:

    We Can Replace Them

    By Michelle Goldberg
    Opinion Columnist

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/opinion/stacey-abrams-georgia-governor-election-brian-kemp.html
     

    Bill Kristol asks if ‘lazy’ pockets of white working class should be replaced with ‘new Americans’

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/9/bill-kristol-asks-if-lazy-pockets-of-white-working/
     

    One Billion Americans: The Case for Thinking Bigger

    by Matthew Yglesias

    https://www.amazon.com/One-Billion-Americans-Thinking-Bigger/dp/0593190211
     

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    I read the article at the first link.

    It was mostly a big admiring piece about black woman Stacey Abrams against white nationalists.

    I found an interesting comment on the article:

    Not only did Stacey Abrams burn the flag of Georgia (not mentioned in this piece), she is fiscally irresponsible.

    According to a recent NYT opinion piece by none other than Michele Goldberg, Stacey Abrams is more than $200,000 in personal debt, including $54,000 to the IRS. And Ms. Abrams has given $50,000 to her campaign instead of paying off most of her IRS debt. You must be kidding!

    Ms. Goldberg’s earlier piece tried to portray Ms. Abrams as working-class, whereas in fact she has a law degree from Yale, worked as a tax attorney, and co-founded a financial services firm.

    Even now, 19 years after getting her law degree, Ms. Abrams still has an outstanding student loan balance of six figures and a five-figure balance due the IRS. Perhaps she needs to go back to Yale (or even a local community college) for a refresher course on personal finances.

    How could anyone believe Ms. Abrams could possibly manage the finances of an entire state? This is not a matter of party or race or gender; it is about someone’s blatant and longstanding inability to manage her personal finances responsibly. This is a very bad sign for someone running for governor.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/opinion/stacey-abrams-georgia-governor-election-brian-kemp.html

    I never read Michelle Goldberg. She’s definitely odious. Full agreement on that.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Frau Katze


    I never read Michelle Goldberg. She’s definitely odious. Full agreement on that.
     

    First They Came for the Migrants

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/opinion/trump-border-migrants-separation.html
     
    She is definitely on board with the whole "stopping immigration is tantamount to fascism" line.

    You elided over the other two links I provided, and all three share the same theme: Americans deserve to be replaced by immigrants. We have no right to control our our own immigration policy etc......

    Michelle Goldberg, William Kristol, Matthew Yglesias,..........notice any pattern there?

    No, I guess you don't.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

  307. Donald Trump is a clown, and having Hulk Hogan and Kid Rock speak or perform at the RNC is a farce.
    The Democrats are no better with their worship of clown minorities and a woke agenda. One side puts on a circus show, and the other side puts on a turd polishing exhibition in a cult atmosphere, all because each side hates its base and believes the voters are idiots, which is more true for the Dems.

    If our politicians and elites would take care of the interests of actual Americans, and run the nation in a responsible and transparent way, each party could have a dignified and informative convention. Instead, the process just gets worse. I never thought that crowds in Uncle Sam hats holding silly signs, and clapping uncontrollably, would look reasonable. It does now.

  308. @J.Ross
    @Gandydancer

    You haven't seen Dan Gabriel's powerpoint presentation. We're not going to talk about NAFO but this is pretty much how NAFO came about. Tldr in 2016 Our Leaders discovered 4chan and completely misunderstood how it worked, to rediscover the "whispering campaign." Meme magic works when several people are pretty much already on the same page about something and they begin a kind of pseudo-telepathy. They seem to communicate faster than instantly, the ideas flow -- because they're all on the same page already. So it's less like magic and more like an especially productive business meeting. Well, Green Zone denizens in their illegitimacy and confusion decided that it meant they could repetitively shout their way to rewriting laws of physics -- these are the same retards and the same retardation as that W-era "making reality" idea. This is why Western propaganda is so ineffective: the people making it decided that there are no rules.
    So Democrats are trying to get Biden out using Tinkerbell CPR, and it's working about as well as NAFO trannies trying to defeat Russia using doge.
    Our elites are stupid.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Gandydancer

    I agree with Frau Katze that I found your post unintelligible, though I did briefly look up what NAFO was, though it didn’t inspire me to do more than determine that it is apparently something. But’s it’s not responsive to my point, except to prove it, which is that I find the wider use of the word “meme” generally meaningless and useless and an obstacle to clear communication. I remember when someone referred to the “Ghost of Kyiv” as a “meme”, and I couldn’t see any use to characterizing that lie as anything other than just a fraud.

    Examples of the unintelligible gassing-on that I’m objecting to: Nothing is “faster than instantly”. There is no such thing as telepathy, so what is the point of a term like “pseudo telepathy”? What do the laws of physics have to do with anything? What is “defeating Russia using doge” supposed to mean?

    If you want to communicate anything to me just use plain English. That’s what words are for.

  309. @Getaclue
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Limbaugh is more loved than ever the Leftists who hate him hate the USA and that will never change! They're morons.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Limbaugh is not loved by most leftists, or most anyone’s in the USA. He’s rapidly becoming a forgotten man.

    Most people under age 40 probably have no idea who Rush Limbaugh was.

    Most people under age 40 never listened to over-the-air talk radio and never will.

    Walk around the streets of the cities and suburbs alike and ask younger people who Limbaugh is.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @RadicalCenter

    Finally. Also, what exactly did Rush espouse that would be considered actually conservative along the likes of Pat Buchanan, Sam Francis, MAGA (of 2016 variety, not what it has morphed into)?

    One of the things Rush railed about all through the '90's was how evil and bad the minimum wage was and how it should never be increased ever again. Yet, he never railed and raged vs corporate welfare for billionaires. He constantly and consistently lambasted the lower classes, and yet always kissed the ring of the top 1% businessmen. For all his idolization of Reagan, he didn't actually start voting until he aws nearly 40 yrs old.

    Rush, let the record show, was also AWOL for decades on the issue of immigration. When pressed to take a hard stand, Rush refused to do so for decades.

    Supposedly during the 90's he had this YUGE podium platform of which to persuade listeners to action, but what real concrete action in the way of political mobilization did he ever take? Answer: none. He did use his platform to enrich himself and often over trivial puerile matters.

    His fawning biographer stated that Rush was pro-gay marriage several yrs before it was made legal.

    Again. How was he any different than a RHINO? He wasn't.

    His basic schtick was Democrats are evil, GOP is Godly good, with Bill Clinton the devil incarnate.

    Dude wanted to purchase an NFL team. That's top 1% territory.

    Always wondered why his 3rd wife never wrote a tell all book. Now that he's dead she couldn't be sued so why not?

    Dude was addicted to opioids, which perhaps (or perhaps not) contributed to the loss of his hearing.

    Dude was married 4 times. How is this espousing traditional conservative values? Didn't he also go to Jeffrey Epstein's island? Or go on a trip to Dominican Republic and was caught with some enhancing products?

    How exactly did he leave the world a better place than when he first went national in 1988?

    Come to think of it, what slings and arrows did Rush take that might have put his career in jeopardy? Can't think of anything.

    Andrew Anglin's article on Rush's death remains the most cogent, lucid insightful article on Rush's passing.

    Again, history won't be so kind to Rush. Especially as his most ardent Boomer supporters are starting to die off.

  310. Sunday July 21, 2024 headline news:

    ;Secret Service now admits it denied Trump campaign more SS protection when requested.

    (If anyone bothers to read the final bits of this comment section.)

    These “denials” were from the female head of the SS and Homeland Security honcho Mayorkas.

    The new admission about this matter, despite months of denials, seems to come from a recent NYT report about the matter.

    Evidently being caught in a proven lie was enough to finally cough up the truth.

    It only took the Narrative Media four months and a near fatal assassination of Trump to arrive at this.

  311. @Jonathan Mason
    @Mark G.


    A 2022 Pew survey found that Whites have a more positive view of capitalism than Asians, Hispanics or Blacks. The biggest gap here is between Whites and Blacks while the smallest is between Whites and Asians.
     
    I think the question is not capitalism vs socialism, but which is more competent in delivering services to populations.

    In the 1980s UK Mrs Thatcher strongly believed that privatization would improve the end product of many services that had been nationalized after World War II, for example health, water, railroads, airlines, postal services which were deemed to be inefficient.

    However, privatized water companies have not delivered very well in recent times and the largest water utility in the UK, Thames Water is on the verge of a massive bankruptcy that will surely require the injection of public cash nd is releasing sewerage into rivers (totally illegally.) The new Labour administration is talking about renationalizing some rail lines, and the National Health Service stumbles from crisis to crisis and is to a large extent staffed by immigrants.

    The only way to know which is really best is to have controlled trials, for example one state has privatized water and another has a public water utility for a given period of time, but both have equal access to natural resources.

    In my view there is not a whole lot of difference. I worked for many years in the public sector in the United States and I would say that the majority of employees in responsible positions were conscientious and genuinely interested in providing the best possible service to customers and clients.

    The problem with public services is that they often offer better pensions and benefits than capitalist organizations that have to return a percentage of turnover to shareholders.

    The problem with for-profit is how to provide a good return to shareholders and at the same time deliver superior services, without providing this at the personal expense of employees.

    A huge issue in the US that does not get discussed much is the poor quality of care delivered to poor, elderly people in for-profit nursing homes that turn Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements into profits.

    Since immigrants usually start off at the foot of the ladder, it is perhaps not surprising that they tend to prefer the relative security of public employment to working for for-profit companies.

    However, I think it is a mistake to think that capitalism is inherently morally superior, even if it delivers an inferior end product.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Art Deco, @Art Deco

    Water delivery and gas and electric provision to customers are natural monopolies, so the benefits of private ownership are more circumscribed than would be the case for any other industry and contingent on how the regulatory authorities, the unions, and management interact.
    ==
    Inter-city rail service is not a natural monopoly due to ready substitutes, so not a proper candidate for nationalization. It may be injured by regulatory authorities or by cannibalization by unions. If the Labour Party wants to renationalize it, it is to provide opportunities for more cannibalization (subsidized with tax money).
    ==
    The National Health Service in Britain has taken over the social and cultural position once occupied by the Church of England.
    ==
    Please recall what Mrs. Thatcher was confronting in 1979: public enterprise in a whole mess of competitive industries (among them coal and steel) which in turn were abused by boss-ridden unions run by the likes of Arthur Scargill. Also, about 20% of the housing stock was owned by municipal government and rent regulations had injured the market for private rental housing. All of that was gratuitous and should have been cleared off.

    • Thanks: Mark G.
  312. @Jonathan Mason
    @Mark G.


    A 2022 Pew survey found that Whites have a more positive view of capitalism than Asians, Hispanics or Blacks. The biggest gap here is between Whites and Blacks while the smallest is between Whites and Asians.
     
    I think the question is not capitalism vs socialism, but which is more competent in delivering services to populations.

    In the 1980s UK Mrs Thatcher strongly believed that privatization would improve the end product of many services that had been nationalized after World War II, for example health, water, railroads, airlines, postal services which were deemed to be inefficient.

    However, privatized water companies have not delivered very well in recent times and the largest water utility in the UK, Thames Water is on the verge of a massive bankruptcy that will surely require the injection of public cash nd is releasing sewerage into rivers (totally illegally.) The new Labour administration is talking about renationalizing some rail lines, and the National Health Service stumbles from crisis to crisis and is to a large extent staffed by immigrants.

    The only way to know which is really best is to have controlled trials, for example one state has privatized water and another has a public water utility for a given period of time, but both have equal access to natural resources.

    In my view there is not a whole lot of difference. I worked for many years in the public sector in the United States and I would say that the majority of employees in responsible positions were conscientious and genuinely interested in providing the best possible service to customers and clients.

    The problem with public services is that they often offer better pensions and benefits than capitalist organizations that have to return a percentage of turnover to shareholders.

    The problem with for-profit is how to provide a good return to shareholders and at the same time deliver superior services, without providing this at the personal expense of employees.

    A huge issue in the US that does not get discussed much is the poor quality of care delivered to poor, elderly people in for-profit nursing homes that turn Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements into profits.

    Since immigrants usually start off at the foot of the ladder, it is perhaps not surprising that they tend to prefer the relative security of public employment to working for for-profit companies.

    However, I think it is a mistake to think that capitalism is inherently morally superior, even if it delivers an inferior end product.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Art Deco, @Art Deco

    A huge issue in the US that does not get discussed much is the poor quality of care delivered to poor, elderly people in for-profit nursing homes that turn Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements into profits.
    ==
    It’s not a huge issue.
    ==
    Some nursing homes are better than others. Medicaid is the primary means of financing nursing home care for every segment of society. People with the means for private pay will be in assisted living up until the point their memory or mobility is so impaired that it is beyond the ken of assisted living staff. While you find a minority in nursing homes for years on end, the mean time billeted therein is about a year. A great many people require nursing home care at the end of their lives, but it’s generally the but end.

  313. HA says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @HA

    "I mean, I thought throwing a conniption over being called “fanboys” was already a bit much, but no."

    You don't seem to understand. This is not about your idiotic politics regarding Russia/Ukraine, it is about aesthetics.

    To those of us who grew up reading real writers like Christgau and Lester Bangs, "fanboys" is just too damn *lazy*. You make my ears hurt; making my brain hurt was a foregone conclusion the moment you started babbling -- it's irrelevant. But "fanboys" is just pure nails on a chalkboard, nothing more. It's the Mount Everest of lazy and stupid.

    Don't flatter yourself. Wait, guess that ship has sailed.

    Replies: @HA

    “To those of us who grew up reading real writers like Christgau and Lester Bangs, “fanboys” is just too d@mn *lazy*.”

    And yet, despite having that “Ignore commentator” button right there a click or two away, you and your fellow fanboys continue to repeatedly subject yourselves to pages and pages of my torturous pushback. What does that say about all of you? As for me, yeah, I sure must be “lazy” to be replying as much as I do — you really got me figured out, don’t you?

    And don’t kid yourself. Given the hackneyed troll drivel I’m responding to, I give far better than I receive in terms of quality. You think you’re the Algonquin Round Table? Think again.

    When it comes to you specifically, if you don’t like my output, consider the possibility that your own drunken ramblings and thinly veiled cries of desperation (not to mention weird and creepy PJ Harvey fetishes — I mean, seriously?) deserve no more than the response they elicit from me, which is typically silence and a reflexive urge to look away in second-hand embarrassment. Any time I’m tempted to be more harsh and dismissive, abject pity at the sight of the train wreck I’m witnessing blunts my response. I’m genuinely sorry the sobriety thing is not working out better, and hope you’ll have more success with that down the line, but for now, just so as to avoid any regret on my part later on, I’ll tell you this: whatever depths you continue to wallow in, in the misplaced hope that someone will find it entertaining, suicide is not the answer, regardless of whether it’s slow, or else painfully drawn out. Consider yourself cautioned.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @HA

    Well if nothing else I have to greet you courteously for making something like a thoughtful reply. That's kind of rare here on the inter-tubes: the fact that you did something more gracious than a swish-pan insult is kind of nice, really.

    "He cannot by the duello avoid it" -- Twelfth Night

    But yet, off we go... more matter on a May morning.

    "despite having that “Ignore commentator” button right there a click or two away, you and your fellow fanboys continue to repeatedly subject yourselves to pages and pages of my torturous pushback. What does that say about all of you?"

    Can't speak for the rest of 'em, but I come from an old newspaper-readin' family: four different papers a day, in my house. Delivered 'em hot off the presses, door to door, 5 o'clock in the morning, in buildings where there were no elevators, good aerobic workout. The real pros start from the back and read the sports pages first, then the classifieds and want-ads, then the funnies, and finally make it to the editorial page, when we're just about ready to spit.

    I always started with the funnies page (don't care about sports): and you always read straight from top to bottom, don't skip a thing, all the way from "Broom-Hilda" and "Blondie" down through "Mary Worth," "Dondi" and "Dick Tracy," and then you go searching for where they hid the Jumble and Ching Chow.

    My point being, if I read your stuff, don't take it for too much. If it means anything, sometimes you are good for a better chuckle than "Catfish." Sergeant Snorkle, not so much.

    But the whole suicide thing... please don't bring that up, there's simply too much suicide and craziness in my family for blogsters to make light of it. (THE PHILADELPHIA STORY: -- Does madness run in her family? -- Madame, it gallops.") Unless you want some guy named Red to show up unexpectedly on your doorstep at 5 AM with a grim look on his face. How on earth did he find you, anyway? Like I say, don't f#ck with people who know a lot of people.

    Replies: @HA

  314. @Jonathan Mason
    @Mark G.


    A 2022 Pew survey found that Whites have a more positive view of capitalism than Asians, Hispanics or Blacks. The biggest gap here is between Whites and Blacks while the smallest is between Whites and Asians.
     
    I think the question is not capitalism vs socialism, but which is more competent in delivering services to populations.

    In the 1980s UK Mrs Thatcher strongly believed that privatization would improve the end product of many services that had been nationalized after World War II, for example health, water, railroads, airlines, postal services which were deemed to be inefficient.

    However, privatized water companies have not delivered very well in recent times and the largest water utility in the UK, Thames Water is on the verge of a massive bankruptcy that will surely require the injection of public cash nd is releasing sewerage into rivers (totally illegally.) The new Labour administration is talking about renationalizing some rail lines, and the National Health Service stumbles from crisis to crisis and is to a large extent staffed by immigrants.

    The only way to know which is really best is to have controlled trials, for example one state has privatized water and another has a public water utility for a given period of time, but both have equal access to natural resources.

    In my view there is not a whole lot of difference. I worked for many years in the public sector in the United States and I would say that the majority of employees in responsible positions were conscientious and genuinely interested in providing the best possible service to customers and clients.

    The problem with public services is that they often offer better pensions and benefits than capitalist organizations that have to return a percentage of turnover to shareholders.

    The problem with for-profit is how to provide a good return to shareholders and at the same time deliver superior services, without providing this at the personal expense of employees.

    A huge issue in the US that does not get discussed much is the poor quality of care delivered to poor, elderly people in for-profit nursing homes that turn Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements into profits.

    Since immigrants usually start off at the foot of the ladder, it is perhaps not surprising that they tend to prefer the relative security of public employment to working for for-profit companies.

    However, I think it is a mistake to think that capitalism is inherently morally superior, even if it delivers an inferior end product.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Art Deco, @Art Deco

    Since immigrants usually start off at the foot of the ladder, it is perhaps not surprising that they tend to prefer the relative security of public employment to working for for-profit companies.
    ==
    The relative security is a function of rent-seeking by attentive publics. We benefit from capable public employees, but if the recruitment and promotion method is dysfunctional and the disciplinary system is lax, we aren’t getting capable public employees. We certainly do not need DEI hires from abroad.

  315. @Steve Sailer
    @R.G. Camara

    iSteve commenter Art Deco is not Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg.

    You aren't a terrible commenter, so I've been trying to wean you off this insane delusion for years, but I'm getting tired of my kind efforts not bearing fruit.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Gordo, @Colin Wright, @Jack D, @Corvinus, @J.Ross, @R.G. Camara

    He thinks I am a “Fed” also and tags everything I write as a troll on that basis.

    TBH, insane delusions are not uncommon among the Men of Unz.

  316. @Mr. Anon
    @HA


    And Putin doesn’t have to be Hitler to be a guy who needs containing.
     
    Then I suggest you hop a plane to Kiev, buy a rifle, and start containing, you loathsome piece of s**t.

    Replies: @HA

    “you loathsome piece of s**t.”

    See what I mean about the Algonquin Round Table? No sign of them. And are you still pretending not to read what I write? How’s that working out for you? Not so well, apparently. I.e., the same as with the fanboys. Poor Ron Unz and that woefully underutilized Ignore-commentator button. I mean, why did he even bother?

    And it’s summertime — aren’t there some kids on your lawn you need to be screaming at?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @HA


    See what I mean about the Algonquin Round Table?
     
    You're not worth any witty bon mots. You're a loathsome creep. Profane derision is all you merit.

    No sign of them. And are you still pretending not to read what I write?
     
    I can actually read sentences as I scroll down the page. I couldn't tell you anything else you wrote in that post. Don't care.

    And it’s summertime — aren’t there some kids on your lawn you need to be screaming at?
     
    It's July of 2024. Shouldn't you be in a trench in the Donbass, a**hole?

    Replies: @HA

  317. @AnotherDad
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    No one is naming the Jew, therefore nothing serious or substantial will get done. As usual.

    Can’t have a real country or a real politics, if you can’t or won’t identify its real mortal enemies.
     

    Disagree.

    I'm upfront that I think the minoritarian cancer is basically Jewish ideology, pushed and propagandized to ascendency by American Jews. And that the "scientists" pushing the whole anti-genetic, nurture-uber-alles, ideology** were/are Jews doing political "science" in the service of minoritarianism. (**Basically, that human group differences in intelligence and personality are the sole area in the whole reach of biology unaffected by genes.)


    But there's no need politically to run around "naming the Jew". No, you simply attack the bad behavior, bad policies, bad ideology.

    Same as with blacks and crime. You don't "name the black", you denounce crime, call for "law and order" and locking up criminals. If blacks start whining that denouncing crime is attacking blacks, or blacks are more likely to be locked up, you respond "Well then blacks should do better. Stop tolerating criminals in your communities—zero tolerance. Black men should work harder to keep their sons on the straight and narrow—out of gangs, off the criminal path. It's your community, you need to fix it."

    Likewise, you denounce the immigration and open border treason. If some Jews start pointing out that you're naming mostly Jews—ex. Mayorkas, Garland, the "Biden Administration" traitors--and pipe up with their usual "anti-Semite!", you respond the same way: "So you're telling me Jews have a problem being loyal Americans? Putting the interests of their fellow Americans and our posterity first? Well then Jews should do better. Patriotic Jews should work on routing this virus of disloyalty out of their community. It's not like there aren't plenty of Jews—like Stephen Miller—who are patriotic and want to preserve America for Americans and our posterity. Jews should do better and fix it." The media Jews, of course, will squeal like stuck pigs when you say "disloyal". But while Americans are ho-hum philo-Semitic, if Jews starting broadcasting that Jews in fact do find pushing immigration rather than loyalty to the interests of Americans part of their "Jewish identity", that will just cause normie Americans to go "hmm". It's not a winner for Jews.

    Same with anything else. You call for normality, decency, sanity, national loyalty and denounce the destructive people, pushing crime, immivasion, anti-whitism, trannies, anti-family, anti-natalism, cultural depravity etc. If someone wants to pop-up and say "but that's who we are!", you respond "Well then who you are sucks. Do better."

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Colin Wright, @rebel yell, @Jack D

    Sorry nope not good enough for the Men of Unz. Even if their strategy condemns them to hiding behind pseudonyms in their mom’s basement, they are sticking to it!

  318. @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    It's not one group of people. Consider the one guy in the Mel Gibson movie Edge of Darkness, the one who listens and then makes a decision. It's not some bugaboo man with horns growing put of his head, having infinite power, randomly. Various people are given a shot by a controlling organ. They succeed or fail, because they don't have infinite power. If they keep failing, do you think they will stay? So the Obamist-Neocon coalition successfully got permission to "fortify" the election because of several factors, the most important of which being they thought that they would succeed in their goals. Have they? Sh#t's on fire, yo. Will they try to cheat again? Sure, but they don't have the situation they had last time, they won't be allowed to "fortify" the election, and they don't have the lockdown as an excuse to literally throw electoral procedure out the window.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    I think that our rulers will allow Trump to win this time.

    But this business about the lockdown as necessary for mass voter fraud is just not true.

    Many states instituted automatic vote-by-mail, and they did NOT return to legitimate, verifiable, in-person voting after the lockdowns and plan-demic ended. The same mass mail voting is still in place, perfect for massive fraud.

    And here’s a question: since the 2020 selection of “biden/harris”, which states have enacted a law requiring voters to show identification that proves their identity, home address, age, AND US CITIZENSHIP? That would require a blue US Citizen’s passport plus a government-issued ID showing home address and birthdate.

    Does even a single “conservative” state require this?

    Did Republicans ever enact a national ID requirement like this for federal elections, when they controlled the White House, Senate and Congress from 2003 to 2007?

    Has Trumpstein even proposed this passport-plus-driver’s license requirement?

    Has “Vance” ever introduced or co-sponsored a bill in the Senate to impose such an ID requirement?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @RadicalCenter

    Hmmm.
    There was Trump's betrayal of E-Verify.
    It's a one-sided deal, the house always wins, but I do think that with Trump and Vance we get the best possible version of the deal.

  319. @Mark G.
    @Frau Katze

    I tend to agree that hardworking immigrants are an asset to this country. That is not what we are getting, though. Most of the polling I have seen shows recent non-White immigrants, once they become citizens, vote for the pro-welfare Democrat party.

    A 2022 Pew survey found that Whites have a more positive view of capitalism than Asians, Hispanics or Blacks. The biggest gap here is between Whites and Blacks while the smallest is between Whites and Asians.

    Charles Murray has suggested that Asians are the non-White group most likely to switch parties. He says they vote Democrat now due to social rather than fiscal liberalism. For example, when legalized gay marriage came up for a vote in California Whites and Asians were for it while Hispanics and Blacks were against it. Asians also tend to be pro-choice on abortion. Just by avoiding extremist views on social issues, the Republican party could forge a political alliance between Whites and Asians.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Jonathan Mason, @epebble, @Reg Cæsar

    Just by avoiding extremist views on social issues, the Republican party could forge a political alliance between Whites and Asians.

    It is not that simple, if the Republican party yields a little on social conservatism, they risk losing the Evangelical support, which is the mirror reflection of what Black vote is for Democrats. Republicans can’t afford to yield a little on the issues dear to Evangelicals just as Democrats can’t yield on Black issues. Since, arithmetically, there are more Evangelical votes than Asian votes, it does not help Republicans to yield on social issues.

    As an example, since Trump started supporting ‘State’s rights’ on abortion for pragmatic reason i.e. not to lose elections, he is attracting resistance from some pro-life corners for abandoning federal support for abortion ban.

    https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/under-trump-gop-softens-abortion-stance-some-michigan-conservatives-dismayed

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-risks-losing-key-voter-base-opposition-arizona-abortion-law-pro-lifers-say

  320. @Mark G.
    @Frau Katze

    I tend to agree that hardworking immigrants are an asset to this country. That is not what we are getting, though. Most of the polling I have seen shows recent non-White immigrants, once they become citizens, vote for the pro-welfare Democrat party.

    A 2022 Pew survey found that Whites have a more positive view of capitalism than Asians, Hispanics or Blacks. The biggest gap here is between Whites and Blacks while the smallest is between Whites and Asians.

    Charles Murray has suggested that Asians are the non-White group most likely to switch parties. He says they vote Democrat now due to social rather than fiscal liberalism. For example, when legalized gay marriage came up for a vote in California Whites and Asians were for it while Hispanics and Blacks were against it. Asians also tend to be pro-choice on abortion. Just by avoiding extremist views on social issues, the Republican party could forge a political alliance between Whites and Asians.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Jonathan Mason, @epebble, @Reg Cæsar

    Most of the polling I have seen shows recent non-White immigrants, once they become citizens, vote for the pro-welfare Democrat party.

    Poor immigrants– the number of which should be zero– obviously will vote for welfare. The question is, why do the well-off Chinese and Indians vote for it? Or well-off whites, for that matter?

    Asians also tend to be pro-choice on abortion. Just by avoiding extremist views on social issues

    When America was still white, “pro-choice” was the extremist position. “Elective” was a dirty word. The likes of Hugh Hefner, Ayn Rand, David Reuben, etc. Roe came out of left field. Just a few months before, the New York legislature repealed the legalization it had passed only two years earlier.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Reg Cæsar

    "When America was still white, pro-choice was the extremist position."

    At the 1976 Republican convention, a poll of the delegates found that a majority of them were pro-choice on the abortion issue.

    This changed afterwards because of increasing numbers of urban Catholics leaving the Democrat party and moving over to the Republican party. Catholic political activists like Bill Buckley, Paul Weyrich, Richard Viguerie and Phyllis Schlafly were very effective in pushing the Republican party in a pro-life direction.

    The Republican party is less WASP than in the past and this has influenced the political positions it now takes.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Reg Cæsar

  321. @Colin Wright
    @AnotherDad


    'It’s not going to be that bleak.

    The US has been rapidly Latinizing, so look to Latin America to see what that looks like...'
     
    Oh, it can be that bleak. I was in Argentina -- and what struck me is that fucked up as things were, at least they were all Argentine. We won't even be able to say that.

    On the other hand...

    '...A Chinese AI engineered plague would not surprise me...'
     
    It would surprise me. China needs us as a market. All those cheap fixtures we need to buy from China? Well, they need to sell them to us. For the foreseeable future anyway, they'll no more exterminate us than a rancher would kill off his herd. The situation here is somewhat like the colonial European powers and late Ch'ing China. They'll keep us around -- I just wouldn't see their interests and ours as quite identical.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    The US share of world population continues to decline, as does its share of world GDP.

    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/u-s-share-of-global-economy-over-time/

    Other countries have a large number of people claiming out of abject poverty, even joining a nascent lower-middle-class, with increasing disposable income. By contrast, the USA’s subjects have steadily declining disposable income to spend on anything other than overpriced necessities: housing, food, medical care, and a vehicle.

    China will need the dying, poorer US’s consumers less and less in the near future.

    In time, even a drastic decline in Americans’ purchases of Chinese products can EASILY be offset by ever-increasing sales to Mexico, Brazil and other South American countries, Indonesia, Africa, etc. China is the #1 trading partner of more countries with each passing decade.

    China is the #1 trading partner of the majority of countries in the world:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/26/china-still-top-trading-partner-for-many-countries-says-adb.html

    As a personal anecdote, when we outfitted our home in Mexico, we were able to buy appliances and furniture mostly made in Mexico (some at local factories owned by Chinese corporations like HiSense). The remainder of the appliances and kitchenware were made in China, Brazil, italy, France and Spain. We could find little made or even assembled in the USA, even at large chain stores in a big city. China continues to build more factories in places like Mexico, and Mexicans and other non-US consumers make up ever more of China’s export audience.

    Thinking that China desperately needs American consumers is just another way arrogant, ill-informed Fatmericans have to adjust to the new reality and get the fuck over themselves.

    • Agree: epebble
    • Replies: @epebble
    @RadicalCenter

    factories owned by Chinese corporations

    I recently used a precision optical product and was curious where it was made (it had a U.S. brand name). I found it said, "Made in Myanmar", which is surprising as Myanmar is not known for making anything, let alone quality optics. You might have seen many mobile phones with tag "Made in Vietnam". Just shows how difficult it is to make policies on tariffs and bans on China.

    , @Colin Wright
    @RadicalCenter


    'Thinking that China desperately needs American consumers is just another way arrogant, ill-informed Fatmericans have to adjust to the new reality and get the fuck over themselves.'
     
    You're right about the trend -- but we're not there just yet. At a guess, a good third -- if not half -- of China's exports still go to us. China would definitely hurt if we fell upon hard times -- so she's motivated to see that we don't.
  322. And, he’s out.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/21/joe-biden-drops-out/74255359007/

    I don’t think there’s any way they can not make Kamala Harris the Democratic nominee without their most loyal constituency staying home in November.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    He's staying on as POTUS, Commander-in-Chief, Quarterback of the Nuclear Football and Grand Imperial Wizard of the Free World.

  323. @The Anti-Gnostic
    And, he's out.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/21/joe-biden-drops-out/74255359007/

    I don't think there's any way they can not make Kamala Harris the Democratic nominee without their most loyal constituency staying home in November.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

    He’s staying on as POTUS, Commander-in-Chief, Quarterback of the Nuclear Football and Grand Imperial Wizard of the Free World.

  324. @Reg Cæsar
    @Mark G.


    Most of the polling I have seen shows recent non-White immigrants, once they become citizens, vote for the pro-welfare Democrat party.
     
    Poor immigrants-- the number of which should be zero-- obviously will vote for welfare. The question is, why do the well-off Chinese and Indians vote for it? Or well-off whites, for that matter?

    Asians also tend to be pro-choice on abortion. Just by avoiding extremist views on social issues
     
    When America was still white, "pro-choice" was the extremist position. "Elective" was a dirty word. The likes of Hugh Hefner, Ayn Rand, David Reuben, etc. Roe came out of left field. Just a few months before, the New York legislature repealed the legalization it had passed only two years earlier.

    Replies: @Mark G.

    “When America was still white, pro-choice was the extremist position.”

    At the 1976 Republican convention, a poll of the delegates found that a majority of them were pro-choice on the abortion issue.

    This changed afterwards because of increasing numbers of urban Catholics leaving the Democrat party and moving over to the Republican party. Catholic political activists like Bill Buckley, Paul Weyrich, Richard Viguerie and Phyllis Schlafly were very effective in pushing the Republican party in a pro-life direction.

    The Republican party is less WASP than in the past and this has influenced the political positions it now takes.

    • Replies: @Gordo
    @Mark G.

    To be honest abortion kills mainly black and mixed race babies, we should try not to think too much about the horror and support some abortion for the good of the White race.

    As for those who support partial birth abortions; they should have a chisel put through their spinal cords, preferably live on national television.

    Anecdote: My sister-in-law was a nurse in the British Army, she took part in an abortion, the baby took half an hour to die on a draining board, she said she would never take part in an abortion again and the Medical Corp agreed.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Mark G.


    At the 1976 Republican convention, a poll of the delegates found that a majority of them were pro-choice on the abortion issue.
     
    Source? "Pro-choice" had barely entered the American vocabulary at that point. It was a reaction to "pro-life", itself quite new.

    What was the wording of the question, verbatim? That is the first issue with any poll. Another is, who asked it?

    Don't be like Corvinus, who goes on and on about Madison Grant without ever bothering to give us the man's actual words.

    Replies: @Mark G.

  325. @HA
    @Mr. Anon

    "you loathsome piece of s**t."

    See what I mean about the Algonquin Round Table? No sign of them. And are you still pretending not to read what I write? How's that working out for you? Not so well, apparently. I.e., the same as with the fanboys. Poor Ron Unz and that woefully underutilized Ignore-commentator button. I mean, why did he even bother?

    And it's summertime -- aren't there some kids on your lawn you need to be screaming at?

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    See what I mean about the Algonquin Round Table?

    You’re not worth any witty bon mots. You’re a loathsome creep. Profane derision is all you merit.

    No sign of them. And are you still pretending not to read what I write?

    I can actually read sentences as I scroll down the page. I couldn’t tell you anything else you wrote in that post. Don’t care.

    And it’s summertime — aren’t there some kids on your lawn you need to be screaming at?

    It’s July of 2024. Shouldn’t you be in a trench in the Donbass, a**hole?

    • Replies: @HA
    @Mr. Anon

    "I can actually read sentences as I scroll down the page."

    All right, then. In that case, you might want to stop pretending you're not reading.

    "Profane derision..."

    Yeah, sorry/not-sorry, but I'm not sinking to that level, so I'm just going to stick with "fanboy" and such-like. And as for trenches in the Donbass, I'm not leaving this country to the likes of you, so that's another swing and a miss.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  326. @Frau Katze
    @Mr. Anon

    I read the article at the first link.

    It was mostly a big admiring piece about black woman Stacey Abrams against white nationalists.

    I found an interesting comment on the article:


    Not only did Stacey Abrams burn the flag of Georgia (not mentioned in this piece), she is fiscally irresponsible.

    According to a recent NYT opinion piece by none other than Michele Goldberg, Stacey Abrams is more than $200,000 in personal debt, including $54,000 to the IRS. And Ms. Abrams has given $50,000 to her campaign instead of paying off most of her IRS debt. You must be kidding!

    Ms. Goldberg's earlier piece tried to portray Ms. Abrams as working-class, whereas in fact she has a law degree from Yale, worked as a tax attorney, and co-founded a financial services firm.

    Even now, 19 years after getting her law degree, Ms. Abrams still has an outstanding student loan balance of six figures and a five-figure balance due the IRS. Perhaps she needs to go back to Yale (or even a local community college) for a refresher course on personal finances.

    How could anyone believe Ms. Abrams could possibly manage the finances of an entire state? This is not a matter of party or race or gender; it is about someone's blatant and longstanding inability to manage her personal finances responsibly. This is a very bad sign for someone running for governor.
     
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/opinion/stacey-abrams-georgia-governor-election-brian-kemp.html

    I never read Michelle Goldberg. She’s definitely odious. Full agreement on that.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    I never read Michelle Goldberg. She’s definitely odious. Full agreement on that.

    First They Came for the Migrants

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/opinion/trump-border-migrants-separation.html

    She is definitely on board with the whole “stopping immigration is tantamount to fascism” line.

    You elided over the other two links I provided, and all three share the same theme: Americans deserve to be replaced by immigrants. We have no right to control our our own immigration policy etc……

    Michelle Goldberg, William Kristol, Matthew Yglesias,……….notice any pattern there?

    No, I guess you don’t.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Mr. Anon

    They’re not only ones pushing mass immigration.

    I’m Canadian and there are far fewer Jews here than in the US (per capita).

    However our idiot prime minister Trudeau launched a massive legal immigration plan bringing in mostly dot Indians. They’ve arrived by the millions and now we have a massive housing crisis so bad that the opposition Conservatives even mentioned immigration in a campaign email.

    It’s easy to find examples of (mostly US) Jews pushing immigration but you are ignoring the large number of non-Jews pushing the same idea.

    Why on earth would Jews want Canada filled with Indians? How do they benefit from that?

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon, @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon, @The Germ Theory of Disease

  327. HA says:
    @Mr. Anon
    @HA


    See what I mean about the Algonquin Round Table?
     
    You're not worth any witty bon mots. You're a loathsome creep. Profane derision is all you merit.

    No sign of them. And are you still pretending not to read what I write?
     
    I can actually read sentences as I scroll down the page. I couldn't tell you anything else you wrote in that post. Don't care.

    And it’s summertime — aren’t there some kids on your lawn you need to be screaming at?
     
    It's July of 2024. Shouldn't you be in a trench in the Donbass, a**hole?

    Replies: @HA

    “I can actually read sentences as I scroll down the page.”

    All right, then. In that case, you might want to stop pretending you’re not reading.

    “Profane derision…”

    Yeah, sorry/not-sorry, but I’m not sinking to that level, so I’m just going to stick with “fanboy” and such-like. And as for trenches in the Donbass, I’m not leaving this country to the likes of you, so that’s another swing and a miss.

    • Thanks: Art Deco
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @HA


    All right, then. In that case, you might want to stop pretending you’re not reading.
     
    It's not possible to not see the words when scrolling down a page, unless I was to shut my eyes at the mere sight of the text "HA says".

    Anyway, you seem awfully preoccupied with whether or not people you despise are reading your scribble. Give it up, moron, you aren't that important. Fact is, you aren't important at all. But you knew that.

    And as for trenches in the Donbass, I’m not leaving this country to the likes of you, so that’s another swing and a miss.
     
    A convenient excuse for a worthless coward like you.
  328. @HA
    @Mr. Anon

    "I can actually read sentences as I scroll down the page."

    All right, then. In that case, you might want to stop pretending you're not reading.

    "Profane derision..."

    Yeah, sorry/not-sorry, but I'm not sinking to that level, so I'm just going to stick with "fanboy" and such-like. And as for trenches in the Donbass, I'm not leaving this country to the likes of you, so that's another swing and a miss.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    All right, then. In that case, you might want to stop pretending you’re not reading.

    It’s not possible to not see the words when scrolling down a page, unless I was to shut my eyes at the mere sight of the text “HA says”.

    Anyway, you seem awfully preoccupied with whether or not people you despise are reading your scribble. Give it up, moron, you aren’t that important. Fact is, you aren’t important at all. But you knew that.

    And as for trenches in the Donbass, I’m not leaving this country to the likes of you, so that’s another swing and a miss.

    A convenient excuse for a worthless coward like you.

  329. @Gandydancer
    @Mr. Anon


    Do I have data on it? No. What data could I possible have? What data do you have?
     
    I'm not the one who made the claim. And my impression is as good as yours. But I'm glad we clarified that your statement was based on nothing tangible.

    What is your impression of when this transition took place?

    Yes, the swastika was on the German flag. But the swastika used in propaganda posters was not usually on a flag. And I've been a history buff for almost 60 years and the instances of my hearing soldiers calling the Germans "Nazis" instead of "Germans" in memoirs and oral histories are innumerable. Maybe less for "good Germans" like, say, Rommel (despite his history in LAH!) but no, I haven't seen any increase in calling Germans of the time "Nazis". Maybe the opposite.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    I’m not the one who made the claim.

    You made your own claim, which you justified with nothing but your impression.

    But I’m glad we clarified that your statement was based on nothing tangible.

    No, my impressions are tangible. As tangible as anybody’s are. Certainly as tangible as yours are.

    But we did clarify that your opinion is based on nothing but your impression.

    ……but no, I haven’t seen any increase in calling Germans of the time “Nazis”. Maybe the opposite.

    Then you are either not very observant or you are just lying.

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Mr. Anon

    You: "They even managed to bring out one of the last living WWII vets in a final act of Greatest Generation worship/envy and paraded him on the speaking platform as if he were a museum piece. Nazi, Nazi, Nazi (nobody ever calls them “Germans” anymore, as the actual generation that fought that war did most of the time)."

    me: "My impression is different"

    So, you are now making a false equivalence between a claim pretending to be a fact and an admitted impression.

    And insulting me, though I have been quite civil until now.

    Go fuck yourself, you moronic pro-Nazi jerk.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  330. @RadicalCenter
    @Colin Wright

    The US share of world population continues to decline, as does its share of world GDP.

    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/u-s-share-of-global-economy-over-time/

    Other countries have a large number of people claiming out of abject poverty, even joining a nascent lower-middle-class, with increasing disposable income. By contrast, the USA’s subjects have steadily declining disposable income to spend on anything other than overpriced necessities: housing, food, medical care, and a vehicle.

    China will need the dying, poorer US’s consumers less and less in the near future.

    In time, even a drastic decline in Americans’ purchases of Chinese products can EASILY be offset by ever-increasing sales to Mexico, Brazil and other South American countries, Indonesia, Africa, etc. China is the #1 trading partner of more countries with each passing decade.

    China is the #1 trading partner of the majority of countries in the world:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/26/china-still-top-trading-partner-for-many-countries-says-adb.html

    As a personal anecdote, when we outfitted our home in Mexico, we were able to buy appliances and furniture mostly made in Mexico (some at local factories owned by Chinese corporations like HiSense). The remainder of the appliances and kitchenware were made in China, Brazil, italy, France and Spain. We could find little made or even assembled in the USA, even at large chain stores in a big city. China continues to build more factories in places like Mexico, and Mexicans and other non-US consumers make up ever more of China’s export audience.

    Thinking that China desperately needs American consumers is just another way arrogant, ill-informed Fatmericans have to adjust to the new reality and get the fuck over themselves.

    Replies: @epebble, @Colin Wright

    factories owned by Chinese corporations

    I recently used a precision optical product and was curious where it was made (it had a U.S. brand name). I found it said, “Made in Myanmar”, which is surprising as Myanmar is not known for making anything, let alone quality optics. You might have seen many mobile phones with tag “Made in Vietnam”. Just shows how difficult it is to make policies on tariffs and bans on China.

  331. @James B. Shearer
    @Gordo

    "Which brings to mind for a British person the death of Liberal Party leader Jeremy Thorpe’s first wife."

    Yes, somewhat similar circumstances.

    "The Coroner Mr. John Clarke recorded a verdict of accidental death, speculating that Mrs Thorpe may have been attending to baggage that might have become dislodged when she went round the Venture roundabout. ..."

    Jeremy Thorpe later developed Parkinsons.

    Replies: @Gordo

    She may have found out that Jeremy enjoyed himself by submitting to sodomy.

    Not unusual for an anti-racist amd anti-Apartheid activist I would imagine.

  332. @Mark G.
    @Reg Cæsar

    "When America was still white, pro-choice was the extremist position."

    At the 1976 Republican convention, a poll of the delegates found that a majority of them were pro-choice on the abortion issue.

    This changed afterwards because of increasing numbers of urban Catholics leaving the Democrat party and moving over to the Republican party. Catholic political activists like Bill Buckley, Paul Weyrich, Richard Viguerie and Phyllis Schlafly were very effective in pushing the Republican party in a pro-life direction.

    The Republican party is less WASP than in the past and this has influenced the political positions it now takes.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Reg Cæsar

    To be honest abortion kills mainly black and mixed race babies, we should try not to think too much about the horror and support some abortion for the good of the White race.

    As for those who support partial birth abortions; they should have a chisel put through their spinal cords, preferably live on national television.

    Anecdote: My sister-in-law was a nurse in the British Army, she took part in an abortion, the baby took half an hour to die on a draining board, she said she would never take part in an abortion again and the Medical Corp agreed.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Gordo


    To be honest abortion kills mainly black and mixed race babies
     
    Probably not "mainly", but maybe "disproportionately".

    Still, abortion is not eugenic. The aborted babies come mostly from the higher functioning side of non-white races, while the low-functioning sides breed and carry to term with continued gusto.

    https://www.unz.com/gdurocher/bumbling-towards-the-biosingularity/#comment-4596940
  333. @Mr. Anon
    @Frau Katze


    I never read Michelle Goldberg. She’s definitely odious. Full agreement on that.
     

    First They Came for the Migrants

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/opinion/trump-border-migrants-separation.html
     
    She is definitely on board with the whole "stopping immigration is tantamount to fascism" line.

    You elided over the other two links I provided, and all three share the same theme: Americans deserve to be replaced by immigrants. We have no right to control our our own immigration policy etc......

    Michelle Goldberg, William Kristol, Matthew Yglesias,..........notice any pattern there?

    No, I guess you don't.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    They’re not only ones pushing mass immigration.

    I’m Canadian and there are far fewer Jews here than in the US (per capita).

    However our idiot prime minister Trudeau launched a massive legal immigration plan bringing in mostly dot Indians. They’ve arrived by the millions and now we have a massive housing crisis so bad that the opposition Conservatives even mentioned immigration in a campaign email.

    It’s easy to find examples of (mostly US) Jews pushing immigration but you are ignoring the large number of non-Jews pushing the same idea.

    Why on earth would Jews want Canada filled with Indians? How do they benefit from that?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    'It’s easy to find examples of (mostly US) Jews pushing immigration but you are ignoring the large number of non-Jews pushing the same idea.'
     
    I'll insist on the validity of the 'thumb on the scale' metaphor.

    Yes, there are gentile whites on both sides of any given issue -- and indeed, much of the political history of 1800-1950 is about this balance, and how it played out.

    But Jews are now able to exert a weight wildly disproportionate to their numbers, and that weight disproportionately comes down on one side of the scale -- hard.

    And here we are. And so long as you won't admit how we got here, you'll never be able to reverse the trend. It's uncomfortable to admit the truth -- but it is the truth, and you won't get anywhere until you face it. The reason the basement is flooding is that there's this broken pipe gushing water. IT'S RIGHT THERE. LOOK AT IT.
    , @Mr. Anon
    @Frau Katze


    They’re not only ones pushing mass immigration.
     
    No, they are not. But they are disproportionately represented among those pushing mass immigration, both in number and in influence.
    , @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    '...Why on earth would Jews want Canada filled with Indians? How do they benefit from that?'
     
    A lot of what Jews push is foolish, self-destructive, and irrational. However, that doesn't do the rest of us much good.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Frau Katze


    Why on earth would Jews want Canada filled with Indians? How do they benefit from that?
     
    I don't know. Maybe you should ask them sometime.

    Moving to Canada?

    Information and helpful links before you arrive in Canada


    https://jiastoronto.org/moving-to-canada/
     
    Oh, but that would require curiosity on your part. Sorry. My bad.
    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Frau Katze

    "Why on earth would Jews want Canada filled with Indians? How do they benefit from that?"

    They benefit because IT HARMS THE GOYIM! And if it harms the goyim, then it's good for the JOOOOZ!!

    Don't ask me, doesn't make any sense to me neither. But I don't make the rules, I just look at them.

    Clean your glasses, lady.

  334. @Frau Katze
    @Art Deco

    OK I looked it up:


    The Immigration Reform and Control Act altered U.S. immigration law by making it illegal to knowingly hire illegal immigrants, and establishing financial and other penalties for companies that employed illegal immigrants.

    The act also legalized most illegal immigrants who had arrived in the country prior to January 1, 1984.
     
    He did legalize most illegals.

    The part about not hiring illegals sounds good. I guess that’s no longer the law of the land ??

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @Art Deco, @Almost Missouri

    The Immigration Reform and Control Act altered U.S. immigration law by making it illegal to knowingly hire illegal immigrants, and establishing financial and other penalties for companies that employed illegal immigrants.

    The act also legalized most illegal immigrants who had arrived in the country prior to January 1, 1984.

    He did legalize most illegals.

    Legalizing illegals was the Democrats’ (who controlled Congress at the time) demand in order pass the Immigration Control bill. Legalizing illegals was not Reagan’s objective; it was the price he had to pay to get the anti-immigration law he wanted.

    Of course after getting the amnesty (which turned out to be much bigger than they said it would be) the Dems simply double crossed Reagan and gutted, de-enforced, and defunded the rest of the Immigration Control Act.

    This is why you cannot do a deal with Dems. They will not keep their side.

  335. @Gordo
    @Mark G.

    To be honest abortion kills mainly black and mixed race babies, we should try not to think too much about the horror and support some abortion for the good of the White race.

    As for those who support partial birth abortions; they should have a chisel put through their spinal cords, preferably live on national television.

    Anecdote: My sister-in-law was a nurse in the British Army, she took part in an abortion, the baby took half an hour to die on a draining board, she said she would never take part in an abortion again and the Medical Corp agreed.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    To be honest abortion kills mainly black and mixed race babies

    Probably not “mainly”, but maybe “disproportionately”.

    Still, abortion is not eugenic. The aborted babies come mostly from the higher functioning side of non-white races, while the low-functioning sides breed and carry to term with continued gusto.

    https://www.unz.com/gdurocher/bumbling-towards-the-biosingularity/#comment-4596940

  336. @Mark G.
    @Reg Cæsar

    "When America was still white, pro-choice was the extremist position."

    At the 1976 Republican convention, a poll of the delegates found that a majority of them were pro-choice on the abortion issue.

    This changed afterwards because of increasing numbers of urban Catholics leaving the Democrat party and moving over to the Republican party. Catholic political activists like Bill Buckley, Paul Weyrich, Richard Viguerie and Phyllis Schlafly were very effective in pushing the Republican party in a pro-life direction.

    The Republican party is less WASP than in the past and this has influenced the political positions it now takes.

    Replies: @Gordo, @Reg Cæsar

    At the 1976 Republican convention, a poll of the delegates found that a majority of them were pro-choice on the abortion issue.

    Source? “Pro-choice” had barely entered the American vocabulary at that point. It was a reaction to “pro-life”, itself quite new.

    What was the wording of the question, verbatim? That is the first issue with any poll. Another is, who asked it?

    Don’t be like Corvinus, who goes on and on about Madison Grant without ever bothering to give us the man’s actual words.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    @Reg Cæsar

    "fewer than 40 percent of the delegates considered themselves pro-life"

    https://muse.jhu.edu/article/461985/pdf

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Reg Cæsar

  337. @RadicalCenter
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    You’re a real mean spirited jackass to call all those toilet bowl countries. Exactly the arrogant, childish, hypocritical Fatmerican Way.

    A rapidly increasing number of Americans, Canadians, and “british” are starting to acquire legal residence, sometimes citizenship in some of the alleged toilet bowl countries — not for retirement, either, but far earlier in life (for people who can do their jobs, or run their business, online).

    Moreover, some of the so-called toilet bowl countries are at least improving, on balance, while we agree that the USA is, well, circling the toilet bowl. Take a look at BOTH urban areas and many rural areas and tell us that they’re not: permanently economically depressed, lazy or demoralized and unproductive, unsafe, culturally savage / vulgar / hypersexualized / perverse, deindustrialized, physically filthy and ugly, unhealthy, low-trust, fearful, hopeless places with decaying infrastructure, inadequate hospital capacity that hasn’t increased in decades, etc.

    And by the way, many people with resources — hence real options around the world — are NOT moving to the USA, but elsewhere. People looking to TAKE from us are coming in greater numbers than ever. People who have supported themselves and their families effectively, and who cannot stomach the US’s systematic ignorance and bullying / mass-murdering abroad and surveillance and anti-white hatred and anti-family media and schools and perversion and garbage culture, are flowing, net, out of the USA, Canada, and the “uk.” Including our family.

    Enjoy your toilet bowl country, Fatmerican.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @David Davenport

    Bro says this:

    “You’re a real mean spirited jackass to call all those toilet bowl countries. Exactly the arrogant, childish, hypocritical Fatmerican Way.”

    …and then proceeds to go on a multi post mean spirited, arrogant, childish, hypocritical, self awareness lacking binge rant.

    Nice.

  338. @Gordo
    @Gandydancer

    A tranny would have been taller and therefore more able to shield Trump.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    Yes a tranny would LIKELY have been better able to do that job. But you’re conflating “would have” with “likely would have”. Also two different female[?] SS agents.

    And trannys are mentally ill and often suicidal. I wouldn’t trust one enough to allow him/her into the Secret Service.

  339. @James B. Shearer
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    "And last he could remember, he was. What makes anyone think that he consciously can still remember that he’s currently the president? Dementia is a legitimate real disease."

    Dementia is a real disease but most forms are progressive. The impairment starts out minor, barely noticeable, but keeps getting worse and worse. Biden doesn't appear that far gone, that he doesn't know he is President, yet. Maybe in a couple of years. Another thing about dementia is that patients often are in denial about their condition.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Up to a point yes, it is a progresssive disease. Which means that he likely had dementia all through his Vice-Presidency. He didn’t just suddenly wake in up 2021 and poof, started to get minor signs of the disease.

    Which means that in 2020 when he was running for President, it was fairly obvious (especially to those people who have a loved one who is dealing with dementia) and there are millions of them out there who have a loved one who are dealing with it.

    I’m guessing he first had minor touches of it since about 2010, perhaps 2005.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    "I’m guessing he first had minor touches of it since about 2010, perhaps 2005."

    In most cases it moves faster than that.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @R.G. Camara, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  340. @Mr. Anon
    @Gandydancer


    I’m not the one who made the claim.
     
    You made your own claim, which you justified with nothing but your impression.

    But I’m glad we clarified that your statement was based on nothing tangible.
     
    No, my impressions are tangible. As tangible as anybody's are. Certainly as tangible as yours are.

    But we did clarify that your opinion is based on nothing but your impression.


    ......but no, I haven’t seen any increase in calling Germans of the time “Nazis”. Maybe the opposite.
     
    Then you are either not very observant or you are just lying.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    You: “They even managed to bring out one of the last living WWII vets in a final act of Greatest Generation worship/envy and paraded him on the speaking platform as if he were a museum piece. Nazi, Nazi, Nazi (nobody ever calls them “Germans” anymore, as the actual generation that fought that war did most of the time).”

    me: “My impression is different”

    So, you are now making a false equivalence between a claim pretending to be a fact and an admitted impression.

    And insulting me, though I have been quite civil until now.

    Go fuck yourself, you moronic pro-Nazi jerk.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Gandydancer

    Wow, that escalated quickly, didn't it?

    Now - per you - and simply because I called out your bulls**t "impression", I am some kind of goose-stepping, brown-shirted Sturmbahnfueher.

    Par for the course for you guys. You're either with us, or you're Hitler. We're all just latent storm troopers as far as you're concerned, aren't we?

    Well, F**k you right back, pal.

    By the way "Gandydancer" is a faggy screen name.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

  341. @Jack D
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi


    Besides, like the US hasn’t directly and indirectly interfere with other countries elections from time to time?
     
    If Russia is innocent then why are your bringing this up at all? The Russian line (which you echo faithfully) is that we dindu nuthin and anyway y'all do this stuff too. One or other. Either say you are innocent or say that you did it and everyone else does it too, but not both. The Russian method is to throw everything possible on the wall and see what sticks but all that this does is make them (and you) seem like inconsistent liars.

    Anyway, the Russians have now taken the approach that all "foreign interference" at home (e.g. having a free press or saying anything against Putin) is illegal or spying and will get you 16 years in prison so they are not in a good position to say that it's OK for them to interfere in US elections. Again, one or the other, either "foreign interference" is OK everywhere or it is not OK anywhere. If the US is doing this then condemn it but don't imitate it. "All the other kids are doing it" doesn't work as an excuse even when you are 9 years old.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    “Anyway, the Russians have now taken the approach that all “foreign interference” at home (e.g. having a free press or saying anything against Putin) is illegal or spying and will get you 16 years in prison so they are not in a good position to say that it’s OK for them to interfere in US elections. Again, one or the other, either “foreign interference” is OK everywhere or it is not OK anywhere. If the US is doing this then condemn it but don’t imitate it. ”

    Are you finished?

    For all the crowing about having a free press, how’d the US Deep State treat Julian Assange?

    That name will be forever a black mark vs the US, and how it treats journalists of the press.

    Go ahead. Waiting for you to repeat the Deep State talking points “He wasn’t an accredited journalist therefore Julian deserved what he got!”–uh, yes, a decade in prison, his life made a living hell, kangaroo court to try and extradite him to the US for a lifetime of prison.

    Go ahead. Blame Putin for Julian Assange, that Julian was actually working undercover for the Kremlin. Go ahead.

    Assange. Assange. Assange.

    Again, and THAT will be forever a black mark on the US and how it treats journalists of the press.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Do you have any other method but "but what about"?

    Releasing genuine top government secrets that put the life of American intelligence assets in danger is nothing like the "espionage" that Gershkovich did by publicly visiting Yekatarinburg as a legitimate journalist.

    Russia, even under the Soviets, always maintained a sham cargo cult system of legality so that they could point to Western parallels - you have a court system, we have a court system, you have a constitution, we have a constitution, etc. The forms were all there just like the "radio" towers that the cargo cultists built from bamboo and vine. It was just the substance that was and is lacking.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  342. @RadicalCenter
    @Getaclue

    Limbaugh is not loved by most leftists, or most anyone’s in the USA. He’s rapidly becoming a forgotten man.

    Most people under age 40 probably have no idea who Rush Limbaugh was.

    Most people under age 40 never listened to over-the-air talk radio and never will.

    Walk around the streets of the cities and suburbs alike and ask younger people who Limbaugh is.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Finally. Also, what exactly did Rush espouse that would be considered actually conservative along the likes of Pat Buchanan, Sam Francis, MAGA (of 2016 variety, not what it has morphed into)?

    One of the things Rush railed about all through the ’90’s was how evil and bad the minimum wage was and how it should never be increased ever again. Yet, he never railed and raged vs corporate welfare for billionaires. He constantly and consistently lambasted the lower classes, and yet always kissed the ring of the top 1% businessmen. For all his idolization of Reagan, he didn’t actually start voting until he aws nearly 40 yrs old.

    Rush, let the record show, was also AWOL for decades on the issue of immigration. When pressed to take a hard stand, Rush refused to do so for decades.

    Supposedly during the 90’s he had this YUGE podium platform of which to persuade listeners to action, but what real concrete action in the way of political mobilization did he ever take? Answer: none. He did use his platform to enrich himself and often over trivial puerile matters.

    His fawning biographer stated that Rush was pro-gay marriage several yrs before it was made legal.

    Again. How was he any different than a RHINO? He wasn’t.

    His basic schtick was Democrats are evil, GOP is Godly good, with Bill Clinton the devil incarnate.

    Dude wanted to purchase an NFL team. That’s top 1% territory.

    Always wondered why his 3rd wife never wrote a tell all book. Now that he’s dead she couldn’t be sued so why not?

    Dude was addicted to opioids, which perhaps (or perhaps not) contributed to the loss of his hearing.

    Dude was married 4 times. How is this espousing traditional conservative values? Didn’t he also go to Jeffrey Epstein’s island? Or go on a trip to Dominican Republic and was caught with some enhancing products?

    How exactly did he leave the world a better place than when he first went national in 1988?

    Come to think of it, what slings and arrows did Rush take that might have put his career in jeopardy? Can’t think of anything.

    Andrew Anglin’s article on Rush’s death remains the most cogent, lucid insightful article on Rush’s passing.

    Again, history won’t be so kind to Rush. Especially as his most ardent Boomer supporters are starting to die off.

  343. @Sgt Sternhammer
    @John Gruskos

    #1 is false. #2 is pretty true. But there are a lot of other planks. If you can't notice them, that says a lot about you.

    Replies: @John Gruskos

    Ackman’s attack on the 1st amendment is explicit in the platform, and the Neocon desire for war with Iran was evident in many speeches.

    The other planks won’t matter if “Israel First” costs Trump the election.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @John Gruskos

    "The other planks won’t matter if “Israel First” costs Trump the election."

    Come come now. It's highly unlikely that the Democrats will nominate an anti-Israel, or a mildly pro-Palestinian candidate. The Democratic leadership is just as much in the pockets of the Israeli lobby and their Jewish donor billionaires. We saw them on full display several months ago during the hearings when the Ivy League presidents were ousted over alleged tolerance of "anti-semitism". There are also several neocons entrenched in the Democratic party as well. The issue will be a wash. Neither side will be directly affected by it, while both candidates will officially say something neutral regarding the Palestinians. And of course the MSM won't dare hold either side accountable on that specific issue either, as the MSM as a whole is thoroughly dominated by the Israeli lobbyists, more or less.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  344. @Bragadocious
    @John Gruskos

    Maybe you hyperventilating clowns should stop with the Israel stuff. You'll never get your way and you should learn to cope. The 2016 campaign had no anti-Israel stuff. Go back and look if you don't believe me. The most Trump would say is that he wanted to make a deal. That was it. He did exit office pretty much hating Netanyahu, FWIW.

    Anyway, Israel is about the 20th most important thing on Trump's plate right now. Freeing the US from Britain's maximalist Ukraine psychosis is the #1 priority, and probably priorities 2 and 3 as well. He's appointed a VP who is getting savaged in the British press right now, and this is an excellent sign.

    Replies: @Manfred Arcane, @Colin Wright, @John Gruskos

    I agree that immigration restriction and peace with Russia are more important than extricating US foreign policy from the control of the Israel lobby.

    But in order to implement immigration restriction and peace with Russia, it is first necessary to win the election.

    Trump’s support for Israel is not an electoral asset, it is an electoral liability.

    No important voting blocks will be lost if Trump adopts a consistent America First foreign policy. Contrary to the mainstream media narrative, Evangelicals don’t really care very much one way or the other about the Israel issue. Jews are only 3% of the population, concentrated in deep blue states like New York and California which are guaranteed to vote Democrat no matter how Jews vote. And anyhow, most Jewish Zionists are perfectly comfortable trusting Schumer, Schiff and Blinken to conduct affairs to their satisfaction in the Middle East.

    On the other hand, huge numbers of young people, Blacks, progressives, Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims are radically dissatisfied with the Democratic Party establishment’s support for Israel –
    Minnesota: 18.8%
    Michigan: 13.2%
    North Carolina: 12.73%
    Wisconsin: 8.4%

    This is the one really new development in US politics which has a potential to make the 2024 presidential election results different from 2020.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @John Gruskos

    It's a nice idea, but not quite realistic. Jewish American Democratic voters still control most of the power within the Democratic party. They are not about to turn their power over to people of color who are pro-Palestinian, or anti-Israel.

    IF these four states that you mentioned actually contain percentages that you list that are strongly anti-Israel, and the Democrats regardless nominate a very pro-Israel candidate, they are stuck. They can either:

    1. Stay home, which will help Trump win those states

    2. Vote third party, which means for the most prominent candidate, RFKjr. This will also have the same effect of delivering those specific states to Trump

    So the question is: where does a third party candidate like RFKjr stand on the Israel question? Is he pro-Palestinian? If not, then again, the percentages of Democratic voters that you name are screwed.

  345. @Reg Cæsar
    @Mark G.


    At the 1976 Republican convention, a poll of the delegates found that a majority of them were pro-choice on the abortion issue.
     
    Source? "Pro-choice" had barely entered the American vocabulary at that point. It was a reaction to "pro-life", itself quite new.

    What was the wording of the question, verbatim? That is the first issue with any poll. Another is, who asked it?

    Don't be like Corvinus, who goes on and on about Madison Grant without ever bothering to give us the man's actual words.

    Replies: @Mark G.

    “fewer than 40 percent of the delegates considered themselves pro-life”

    https://muse.jhu.edu/article/461985/pdf

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Mark G.

    Interesting information on the history of the change in the GOP concerning the abortion issue.

    To be fair, (though can't find actual information on this topic), at the start of the nineteenth century, most of the US was solidly pro-slavery. Even on the eve of the Civil War, probably a good 90% of US white adults solidly favored slavery (that's Americans from all regions). People tend to forge that the abolitionist movement from its inception in the early 1830's to the eve of the Civil War were little more than a whackjob lunatic fringe among adults. But somehow, their position became the dominant one.

    Likewise women's suffrage as late as the 1870's was viewed as a whackjob lunatic fringe position to take among clear thinking adults. And yet by 1920, it was part of the Constitution.

    Times and people do change their minds on positions of the day.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Mark G.


    “fewer than 40 percent of the delegates considered themselves pro-life”
     
    Daniel K Williams wrote this in 2011, and used anachronistic and sloppy language. Those terms were new and not as current at the time. Several years later, he published a book-- which I've read in its entirety-- and was more careful. (Williams, by the way, wasn't there. He was a year old at the time.)

    The abstract cites Barry Goldwater, married to his state's Planned Parenthood's president, Nelson Rockefeller, a creep, and Betty Ford, a less-obvious creep. This is not a cross-section of the GOP rank-and-file of 1976. The one that listened to Mrs Schlafly and was about to slam the brakes on the ERA.

    There was a "Protestant" position one doesn't see much anymore, wary of, sometimes antagonistic to, elective abortion based not on the status of the child but on the effects it would have on the mores of society as a whole. This would have been common among Republicans before the 1970s. Do you really think the GOP of 1966, 1956, or 1946 would have polled "pro-choice"? That was a boutique belief held by some ivory-tower élites.

    Consider this: Gov Ronald Reagan's main contribution to that abortion liberalization bill was getting "fetal deformity" removed as a justification. He refused to sign it otherwise. Does that sound "pro-choice"? Was this the Democrat in him?

    You picked a careless account of a transitory moment in a time of flux in the most radical decade of the last century. Besides, "fewer than 40 percent considered themselves pro-life" does not mean that "more than 60 percent considered themselves pro-choice".
  346. @Reg Cæsar
    Vance forever?

    There is no limit* on how many times one can serve as Vice President. George Clinton and John Calhoun each served under more than one President. One could imagine a scenario in which a party keeps switching Presidents while retaining the same VP, who'd have the real power. Some recent VPs almost seem designed to fit that bill-- Rockefeller, Bush I, Cheney, Biden, Pence. However, the Deep State apparently prefers someone less obvious than a VP to fill that role. Certainly Kamala is no Cheney.

    *Obama, Dubya, and that other Clinton cannot serve as Vice President anymore, as they are now ineligible for the Presidency.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Art Deco, @Gandydancer

    Obama, Dubya, and that other Clinton cannot serve as Vice President anymore, as they are now ineligible for the Presidency.

    Who says? The term limit for the US Presidency was established by the 22nd Amendment which, in relevant part, says only the following:

    No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

    I’m not seeing any limit on the number of times a person can become President so long as his succession is not by way of election to THAT office.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Gandydancer


    I’m not seeing any limit on the number of times a person can become President so long as his succession is not by way of election to THAT office.
     
    Election by whom? It doesn't specify.


    Replacing the President when necessary is a integral part of the VP's duties, indeed, the most fundamental of them. Do you really imagine that, when seeing that second name on the ballot, voters are thinking of the man more as President of the Senate than as potential President of the United States?


    Thus, by electing him to the Vice Presidency, we have elected him to the Presidency. I'm willing to bet an originalist Supreme Court would be more willing to view it this way than to accept that the authors deliberately inserted a loophole that undercuts the very purpose of the amendment.

    That's an originalist take. You wise Latinas will no doubt rule differently!

    Replies: @Gandydancer

  347. @Frau Katze
    @Mr. Anon

    They’re not only ones pushing mass immigration.

    I’m Canadian and there are far fewer Jews here than in the US (per capita).

    However our idiot prime minister Trudeau launched a massive legal immigration plan bringing in mostly dot Indians. They’ve arrived by the millions and now we have a massive housing crisis so bad that the opposition Conservatives even mentioned immigration in a campaign email.

    It’s easy to find examples of (mostly US) Jews pushing immigration but you are ignoring the large number of non-Jews pushing the same idea.

    Why on earth would Jews want Canada filled with Indians? How do they benefit from that?

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon, @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    ‘It’s easy to find examples of (mostly US) Jews pushing immigration but you are ignoring the large number of non-Jews pushing the same idea.’

    I’ll insist on the validity of the ‘thumb on the scale’ metaphor.

    Yes, there are gentile whites on both sides of any given issue — and indeed, much of the political history of 1800-1950 is about this balance, and how it played out.

    But Jews are now able to exert a weight wildly disproportionate to their numbers, and that weight disproportionately comes down on one side of the scale — hard.

    And here we are. And so long as you won’t admit how we got here, you’ll never be able to reverse the trend. It’s uncomfortable to admit the truth — but it is the truth, and you won’t get anywhere until you face it. The reason the basement is flooding is that there’s this broken pipe gushing water. IT’S RIGHT THERE. LOOK AT IT.

    • Agree: Mr. Anon
  348. @Frau Katze
    @Mr. Anon

    They’re not only ones pushing mass immigration.

    I’m Canadian and there are far fewer Jews here than in the US (per capita).

    However our idiot prime minister Trudeau launched a massive legal immigration plan bringing in mostly dot Indians. They’ve arrived by the millions and now we have a massive housing crisis so bad that the opposition Conservatives even mentioned immigration in a campaign email.

    It’s easy to find examples of (mostly US) Jews pushing immigration but you are ignoring the large number of non-Jews pushing the same idea.

    Why on earth would Jews want Canada filled with Indians? How do they benefit from that?

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon, @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    They’re not only ones pushing mass immigration.

    No, they are not. But they are disproportionately represented among those pushing mass immigration, both in number and in influence.

  349. @Mark G.
    @Reg Cæsar

    "fewer than 40 percent of the delegates considered themselves pro-life"

    https://muse.jhu.edu/article/461985/pdf

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Reg Cæsar

    Interesting information on the history of the change in the GOP concerning the abortion issue.

    To be fair, (though can’t find actual information on this topic), at the start of the nineteenth century, most of the US was solidly pro-slavery. Even on the eve of the Civil War, probably a good 90% of US white adults solidly favored slavery (that’s Americans from all regions). People tend to forge that the abolitionist movement from its inception in the early 1830’s to the eve of the Civil War were little more than a whackjob lunatic fringe among adults. But somehow, their position became the dominant one.

    Likewise women’s suffrage as late as the 1870’s was viewed as a whackjob lunatic fringe position to take among clear thinking adults. And yet by 1920, it was part of the Constitution.

    Times and people do change their minds on positions of the day.

  350. @RadicalCenter
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    You’re a real mean spirited jackass to call all those toilet bowl countries. Exactly the arrogant, childish, hypocritical Fatmerican Way.

    A rapidly increasing number of Americans, Canadians, and “british” are starting to acquire legal residence, sometimes citizenship in some of the alleged toilet bowl countries — not for retirement, either, but far earlier in life (for people who can do their jobs, or run their business, online).

    Moreover, some of the so-called toilet bowl countries are at least improving, on balance, while we agree that the USA is, well, circling the toilet bowl. Take a look at BOTH urban areas and many rural areas and tell us that they’re not: permanently economically depressed, lazy or demoralized and unproductive, unsafe, culturally savage / vulgar / hypersexualized / perverse, deindustrialized, physically filthy and ugly, unhealthy, low-trust, fearful, hopeless places with decaying infrastructure, inadequate hospital capacity that hasn’t increased in decades, etc.

    And by the way, many people with resources — hence real options around the world — are NOT moving to the USA, but elsewhere. People looking to TAKE from us are coming in greater numbers than ever. People who have supported themselves and their families effectively, and who cannot stomach the US’s systematic ignorance and bullying / mass-murdering abroad and surveillance and anti-white hatred and anti-family media and schools and perversion and garbage culture, are flowing, net, out of the USA, Canada, and the “uk.” Including our family.

    Enjoy your toilet bowl country, Fatmerican.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @David Davenport

    Enjoy your toilet bowl country, Fatmerican.

    We’re glad that you’re leaving North America.

  351. Signature song for one of the speakers (R&R Hoochie Coo wasn’t available)

  352. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Trinity

    Sorry, but the way you're describing the final night of the convention with the speakers it sounds as though it could've passed for a bad late night informercial from 1995.

    All we needed was the late great Don LaPrie to make an unexpected appearance on the show, and we'd have been transported back to the '90's couch, ca.1AM in the morning.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    All we needed was the late great Don LaPrie [sic] to make an unexpected appearance on the show, and we’d have been transported back to the ’90’s couch, ca.1AM in the morning.

    In June 2011, Don Lapre was charged with 41 counts of conspiracy, mail fraud, wire fraud, and promotional money laundering related to his Internet businesses. He was arrested on June 24, 2011, for failing to appear in court to face these charges.

    He died on October 2, 2011, while in jail awaiting trial. The autopsy report stated that he died of blood loss after cutting his throat with a razor blade.

    • Troll: Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @ScarletNumber

    Like, no duh

  353. @RadicalCenter
    @J.Ross

    I think that our rulers will allow Trump to win this time.

    But this business about the lockdown as necessary for mass voter fraud is just not true.

    Many states instituted automatic vote-by-mail, and they did NOT return to legitimate, verifiable, in-person voting after the lockdowns and plan-demic ended. The same mass mail voting is still in place, perfect for massive fraud.

    And here’s a question: since the 2020 selection of “biden/harris”, which states have enacted a law requiring voters to show identification that proves their identity, home address, age, AND US CITIZENSHIP? That would require a blue US Citizen’s passport plus a government-issued ID showing home address and birthdate.

    Does even a single “conservative” state require this?

    Did Republicans ever enact a national ID requirement like this for federal elections, when they controlled the White House, Senate and Congress from 2003 to 2007?

    Has Trumpstein even proposed this passport-plus-driver’s license requirement?

    Has “Vance” ever introduced or co-sponsored a bill in the Senate to impose such an ID requirement?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Hmmm.
    There was Trump’s betrayal of E-Verify.
    It’s a one-sided deal, the house always wins, but I do think that with Trump and Vance we get the best possible version of the deal.

  354. @ScarletNumber
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi


    All we needed was the late great Don LaPrie [sic] to make an unexpected appearance on the show, and we’d have been transported back to the ’90’s couch, ca.1AM in the morning.
     
    In June 2011, Don Lapre was charged with 41 counts of conspiracy, mail fraud, wire fraud, and promotional money laundering related to his Internet businesses. He was arrested on June 24, 2011, for failing to appear in court to face these charges.

    He died on October 2, 2011, while in jail awaiting trial. The autopsy report stated that he died of blood loss after cutting his throat with a razor blade.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Like, no duh

    • Troll: ScarletNumber
  355. @RadicalCenter
    @Colin Wright

    The US share of world population continues to decline, as does its share of world GDP.

    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/u-s-share-of-global-economy-over-time/

    Other countries have a large number of people claiming out of abject poverty, even joining a nascent lower-middle-class, with increasing disposable income. By contrast, the USA’s subjects have steadily declining disposable income to spend on anything other than overpriced necessities: housing, food, medical care, and a vehicle.

    China will need the dying, poorer US’s consumers less and less in the near future.

    In time, even a drastic decline in Americans’ purchases of Chinese products can EASILY be offset by ever-increasing sales to Mexico, Brazil and other South American countries, Indonesia, Africa, etc. China is the #1 trading partner of more countries with each passing decade.

    China is the #1 trading partner of the majority of countries in the world:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/26/china-still-top-trading-partner-for-many-countries-says-adb.html

    As a personal anecdote, when we outfitted our home in Mexico, we were able to buy appliances and furniture mostly made in Mexico (some at local factories owned by Chinese corporations like HiSense). The remainder of the appliances and kitchenware were made in China, Brazil, italy, France and Spain. We could find little made or even assembled in the USA, even at large chain stores in a big city. China continues to build more factories in places like Mexico, and Mexicans and other non-US consumers make up ever more of China’s export audience.

    Thinking that China desperately needs American consumers is just another way arrogant, ill-informed Fatmericans have to adjust to the new reality and get the fuck over themselves.

    Replies: @epebble, @Colin Wright

    ‘Thinking that China desperately needs American consumers is just another way arrogant, ill-informed Fatmericans have to adjust to the new reality and get the fuck over themselves.’

    You’re right about the trend — but we’re not there just yet. At a guess, a good third — if not half — of China’s exports still go to us. China would definitely hurt if we fell upon hard times — so she’s motivated to see that we don’t.

  356. @Frau Katze
    @Mr. Anon

    They’re not only ones pushing mass immigration.

    I’m Canadian and there are far fewer Jews here than in the US (per capita).

    However our idiot prime minister Trudeau launched a massive legal immigration plan bringing in mostly dot Indians. They’ve arrived by the millions and now we have a massive housing crisis so bad that the opposition Conservatives even mentioned immigration in a campaign email.

    It’s easy to find examples of (mostly US) Jews pushing immigration but you are ignoring the large number of non-Jews pushing the same idea.

    Why on earth would Jews want Canada filled with Indians? How do they benefit from that?

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon, @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    ‘…Why on earth would Jews want Canada filled with Indians? How do they benefit from that?’

    A lot of what Jews push is foolish, self-destructive, and irrational. However, that doesn’t do the rest of us much good.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    You do not understand how many more Jews are in the US compared to Canada.

    51% of Jews worldwide live in the US. 30% live in Israel. 3% live in Canada.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country

    It’s been years since I even met a Jew. There’s almost none in BC.

    They just don’t have the influence here that they do in the US.

    Replies: @Jack D, @J.Ross, @Colin Wright

  357. @Mr. Anon
    @Gandydancer


    Is this just your impression or do you have data on this? My impression is different. It certainly seems to me that the swastika was more prominent in anti-German propaganda images than your claim would suggest.
     
    Well, given that it was on their flag, yeah. Do I have data on it? No. What data could I possible have? What data do you have?

    It is my impression - the impression of somebody who lived in an era when WWII veterans were still thick on the ground, including among my own relatives, and when WWII movies made in the couple decades after the war were still airing on television. It's not that the term "Nazi" was never used, but it was not used exclusively as it largely seems to be now.

    That generation - the generation of men that actually fought the war on the allied side - had a much more nuanced, less comic-book-like version of the events of that time. They even admired German soldiers, sailors, and airmen as brave and capable warriors, even though they despised the regime they fought for. They read biographies about them.

    Replies: @Corn, @Anonymous, @Gandydancer, @Colinsky

    We admired WW2 Germans so much that we put one in charge of our space program.

  358. @Gandydancer
    @Mr. Anon

    You: "They even managed to bring out one of the last living WWII vets in a final act of Greatest Generation worship/envy and paraded him on the speaking platform as if he were a museum piece. Nazi, Nazi, Nazi (nobody ever calls them “Germans” anymore, as the actual generation that fought that war did most of the time)."

    me: "My impression is different"

    So, you are now making a false equivalence between a claim pretending to be a fact and an admitted impression.

    And insulting me, though I have been quite civil until now.

    Go fuck yourself, you moronic pro-Nazi jerk.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Wow, that escalated quickly, didn’t it?

    Now – per you – and simply because I called out your bulls**t “impression”, I am some kind of goose-stepping, brown-shirted Sturmbahnfueher.

    Par for the course for you guys. You’re either with us, or you’re Hitler. We’re all just latent storm troopers as far as you’re concerned, aren’t we?

    Well, F**k you right back, pal.

    By the way “Gandydancer” is a faggy screen name.

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Mr. Anon


    Wow, that escalated quickly, didn’t it?
     
    Yeah, you did. Why you thought you could write "you are either not very observant or you are just lying" without an appropriate response I cannot imagine.

    Your cowardly, faggoty, and determinedly unmemorable screen name (quite unlike that of the work gangs who built the railroads - your ignorance is showing) means that I don't associate you with anything you've barfed up before now but as to your being pro-Nazi your sensitivity about the alleged but non-existent increase in calling WW2 Germans "Nazi", and your complaint that the Commies are less demonized, speaks for itself. Those poor Nazis, so unfairly treated, eh?

    Fuck you, squared. With a steel toilet brush

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  359. @John Gruskos
    @Sgt Sternhammer

    Ackman's attack on the 1st amendment is explicit in the platform, and the Neocon desire for war with Iran was evident in many speeches.

    The other planks won't matter if "Israel First" costs Trump the election.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    “The other planks won’t matter if “Israel First” costs Trump the election.”

    Come come now. It’s highly unlikely that the Democrats will nominate an anti-Israel, or a mildly pro-Palestinian candidate. The Democratic leadership is just as much in the pockets of the Israeli lobby and their Jewish donor billionaires. We saw them on full display several months ago during the hearings when the Ivy League presidents were ousted over alleged tolerance of “anti-semitism”. There are also several neocons entrenched in the Democratic party as well. The issue will be a wash. Neither side will be directly affected by it, while both candidates will officially say something neutral regarding the Palestinians. And of course the MSM won’t dare hold either side accountable on that specific issue either, as the MSM as a whole is thoroughly dominated by the Israeli lobbyists, more or less.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Come come now. It’s highly unlikely that the Democrats will nominate an anti-Israel, or a mildly pro-Palestinian candidate.

    I honestly think they would let Trump win before doing that.

    The Democrats already went after "the squad" alliance for not being sufficiently pro-Israel after the October 4th attack. One of them was replaced with a White guy which says enough. Cross that line and will primary yo ass with anyone......even a White muthafucka.

  360. @John Gruskos
    @Bragadocious

    I agree that immigration restriction and peace with Russia are more important than extricating US foreign policy from the control of the Israel lobby.

    But in order to implement immigration restriction and peace with Russia, it is first necessary to win the election.

    Trump's support for Israel is not an electoral asset, it is an electoral liability.

    No important voting blocks will be lost if Trump adopts a consistent America First foreign policy. Contrary to the mainstream media narrative, Evangelicals don't really care very much one way or the other about the Israel issue. Jews are only 3% of the population, concentrated in deep blue states like New York and California which are guaranteed to vote Democrat no matter how Jews vote. And anyhow, most Jewish Zionists are perfectly comfortable trusting Schumer, Schiff and Blinken to conduct affairs to their satisfaction in the Middle East.

    On the other hand, huge numbers of young people, Blacks, progressives, Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims are radically dissatisfied with the Democratic Party establishment's support for Israel -
    Minnesota: 18.8%
    Michigan: 13.2%
    North Carolina: 12.73%
    Wisconsin: 8.4%

    This is the one really new development in US politics which has a potential to make the 2024 presidential election results different from 2020.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    It’s a nice idea, but not quite realistic. Jewish American Democratic voters still control most of the power within the Democratic party. They are not about to turn their power over to people of color who are pro-Palestinian, or anti-Israel.

    IF these four states that you mentioned actually contain percentages that you list that are strongly anti-Israel, and the Democrats regardless nominate a very pro-Israel candidate, they are stuck. They can either:

    1. Stay home, which will help Trump win those states

    2. Vote third party, which means for the most prominent candidate, RFKjr. This will also have the same effect of delivering those specific states to Trump

    So the question is: where does a third party candidate like RFKjr stand on the Israel question? Is he pro-Palestinian? If not, then again, the percentages of Democratic voters that you name are screwed.

  361. @Frau Katze
    @Mr. Anon

    They’re not only ones pushing mass immigration.

    I’m Canadian and there are far fewer Jews here than in the US (per capita).

    However our idiot prime minister Trudeau launched a massive legal immigration plan bringing in mostly dot Indians. They’ve arrived by the millions and now we have a massive housing crisis so bad that the opposition Conservatives even mentioned immigration in a campaign email.

    It’s easy to find examples of (mostly US) Jews pushing immigration but you are ignoring the large number of non-Jews pushing the same idea.

    Why on earth would Jews want Canada filled with Indians? How do they benefit from that?

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon, @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Why on earth would Jews want Canada filled with Indians? How do they benefit from that?

    I don’t know. Maybe you should ask them sometime.

    Moving to Canada?

    Information and helpful links before you arrive in Canada

    https://jiastoronto.org/moving-to-canada/

    Oh, but that would require curiosity on your part. Sorry. My bad.

    • Troll: Frau Katze
  362. @Gandydancer
    @jb


    In fact there were concerns that Trump’s speech was so bad that it would dissuade Biden from dropping out!
     
    "Concerns" among who? Damn, I sure hope that the Dems persuade themselves that that is a good idea! Even Kamala gives them a better shot.

    Unfortunately I expect Kamala will be the incumbent long before November.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    ,,,I expect Kamala will be the incumbent long before November.

    Told you so. From the second I saw the reaction to the debate. As I said I sure hoped the (D)s would stick with Biden, but didn’t think even they would be that dumb. Now it’s Kamela or bust. I think it will be bust, but one should never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. I thought the (D)s were too repulsive in 2020 to win despite Trump being such weak sauce, but I was wrong about that. It WAS close enough to steal, which was inexcusable.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Gandydancer

    Told you so. From the second I saw the reaction to the debate. As I said I sure hoped the (D)s would stick with Biden, but didn’t think even they would be that dumb. Now it’s Kamela or bust.

    It is not Kamela or bust at this point.

    She still has to get through a brokered convention.

    The Democrats know that she is terrible and as such it's too early to state if they will back her.

    If they back her it will be an AA move and everyone knows it. She has somehow bombed being VP which really takes a lack of talent. It's mostly a superficial position.

    The safer move is to back a moderate that is separate from Biden.

    I thought the (D)s were too repulsive in 2020 to win despite Trump being such weak sauce, but I was wrong about that. It WAS close enough to steal, which was inexcusable.

    Well exit polls showed that Trump lost independents, White women and blue collar voters that crossed lines.

    He has not gained those White women back which means he will have to do better with another group.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

  363. @AnotherDad
    @Almost Missouri


    I don’t quite understand the DNC’s aversion to running with Kamala. Yeah okay, she’s supposedly a crappy person. As if Backfire Joe wasn’t a crappy a person?
     
    I expect that most of the Democrats pushing Joe to retire, realize they'll be stuck with Kamala.

    It’s almost like they just don’t want to Celebrate Diversity.
     
    That's cause diversity--Diversity!--sucks. The Democrats are running up against their "coalition of the fringes" "circular firing squad" problem.

    -- Jews. The Jewish money guys call the shots and can setup a candidate like Biden. But it would be just too "on the nose" to have a Jewish guy explicitly running an anti-white a shit show of destruction. Imagine a President Mayorkas? President Garland? The Biden Administration is the most demographically skewed--relative to US population--administration in US history. And it is utterly unmentioned in the press. (Seriously, I think a President Schumer would have been less destructive, because he would not want to make the connection so obvious, and he would have cared more about his own re-election.) Having a shabbos like Biden works better.

    -- Blacks. People can vote for a black who seems reasonable, checks the boxes. Obama was a big stroke for "good whites". But that's done and no other group actually thinks "black wonderful" or "black competent" or that the presidential ticket must be black all the time. However, blacks have been endlessly coddled by minoritarianism and since Saint George's OD, the "must have black thing" has been over the top pushing black ego/entitlement up through the roof.

    Black women are running around thinking they are "wise" or possess "black girl magic". But everyone else thinks more along the lines of DMV lady. Black men really don't want a black woman bossing them. Mexicans have no use for blacks at all. Asians have generally negative opinions. And it's mutual, blacks are used to having to vote for whitey outside of explicitly black districts. But they have negative attitudes toward voting for Mexicans or Asians--that's "cut in line" and "took our spot" territory. The Democrats have a line to tread pandering to their vote bank but can not afford to fall into Steve's "the black party" trap.

    -- Mexicans/Latinos. They are mostly pretty politically quiescent here. And due to the concentration of their numbers in blue states or red states (Texas) they aren't immediately in the frame. Mexicans matter in Arizona and Nevada, but again are unloved by blacks who matter in almost every other swing state.

    -- Asians. The Chinese are boring. The Indians keep popping up everywhere but are unloved. Both seem kind of "foreign".

    -- Muslims. 'nuf said. Well ok, the obvious: the "immigration forever!" the Jews pushed inevitably means they'll be more Muslims than Jews in the US eventually. (Kaganovitch's heroic efforts notwithstanding.) At some point the Parasites might not even be a Jewish party. In the interim they have to do "stay apart!"

    -- White women. LOL. They are the Parasite Party's biggest vote bank and they are everywhere trying to run everything, full of very definite opinions--which are exactly in line with whatever they heard on the View or the morning shows. Since Jewish second wave feminism taught them that they are oppressed, they've A) have a chip on their shoulder about being heard and B) know--you go girl--that they should be running things and everything would be better if they did. It's a very, very feminized party and they provide the critical votes, so they're sort of right.

    There's only one problem. No one likes white women. Specifically these political you-go-girl church ladies. Very specifically no one is enamored by the thought of being led by a white woman President and being finger wagged and dictated to by her. The soy boys will dutifully vote for them. Most white men--even "progressives" would rather not--would rather have a guy. Black men definitely would not. And even black women have no use for them.

    But white women think they should be running the show. At least half the time. That a woman should always be on the ticket. And just on the bottom, but woman on top.

    ~~

    Sort through it all and again and again you come back to the same thing ... the best presidential candidate for the anti-white, anti-male "diversity!" party is a straight white gentile male! They seem ho-hum, they don't scare the (white) horses and do not stoke the intra-coalition-of-the-fringes ethnic conflicts.

    Replies: @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms, @Frau Katze, @Gandydancer

    Having a shabbos like Biden works better.

    I’m not very familiar with Judaism, but this locution seemed a bit odd. As best I can determine calling a person a “shabbos” makes no sense.
    https://torah.org/torah-portion/nesivosshalom-howshabbosworks/

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Gandydancer


    'I’m not very familiar with Judaism, but this locution seemed a bit odd. As best I can determine calling a person a “shabbos” makes no sense.'
     
    Shabbos goy, then. As in you are a shabbos goy.

    ...or just lying. One of the two. Maybe it's like JackD being a farm boy.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

  364. @Frau Katze
    @Mr. Anon

    They’re not only ones pushing mass immigration.

    I’m Canadian and there are far fewer Jews here than in the US (per capita).

    However our idiot prime minister Trudeau launched a massive legal immigration plan bringing in mostly dot Indians. They’ve arrived by the millions and now we have a massive housing crisis so bad that the opposition Conservatives even mentioned immigration in a campaign email.

    It’s easy to find examples of (mostly US) Jews pushing immigration but you are ignoring the large number of non-Jews pushing the same idea.

    Why on earth would Jews want Canada filled with Indians? How do they benefit from that?

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon, @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “Why on earth would Jews want Canada filled with Indians? How do they benefit from that?”

    They benefit because IT HARMS THE GOYIM! And if it harms the goyim, then it’s good for the JOOOOZ!!

    Don’t ask me, doesn’t make any sense to me neither. But I don’t make the rules, I just look at them.

    Clean your glasses, lady.

  365. @AnotherDad
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Bromance, appreciate the story Hai Rui story. Not sure why you've got your panties all in a twist.

    -- Rather obviously, i'm not in the Hai Rui situation. If I had a chance to stop "the emperor's" insanity I would gladly build my coffin and do it. (I hope to go another 20 or so, but I care way, way, way about my kids and my country.)

    -- BTW, I'm one of the easiest commenters here to dox, I've given a ton of personal info in comments over the years such that there's only one person I could be--me. Problem is ... who cares. I'm retired My family and friends already know I'm a "far right" Trump voting loon. (Our across the street neighbor came over Saturday afternoon nominally to welcome us back for the summer, but I think she also just wanted a friendly ear to talk about the Trump shooting. My next door neighbor will bend my ear whenever I'm here about the crazies in Seattle and everything going to hell. I'm already "out".)

    -- If you think my analysis of the Democrats situation--basically just Steve's point that their "coalition of the fringes" has lots of internal fissures and is composed of groups who do not necessarily like or respect one another--is crappy, just cite where you disagree.

    -- On the "trash your own women" thing. Stupid. (I like the women I like and have no use for treasonous virtue signaling women--white or not.) That women vote differently is one of the most well worn observations. (As Steve has pointed out, actually the "marriage gap" is bigger than the "gender gap". It's single women that are the Democrats real vote bank.)

    As to lots of men not wanting a female "top dog"--i.e. president--that's something the other side claims as well. They just call it "sexism". I think there's good reasons for that "sexism". And I think one of the biggest elements is behavioral--the "church lady". No one really wants to get the finger waging lecture from a church lady. But--I was making this point to my kids just a couple weeks back--the old school church ladies did pro-social finger wagging--"sober up", "stop gambling", "support your family", "keep your legs crossed", etc. etc. Now we have this same attitudinal affect, but now the Democrat church ladies are finger wagging minoritarian lies and no one really wants to hear it. If you doubt this go talk to President Hillary Clinton.

    Replies: @Torna atrás

    In Japan, Andre the Giant often had to substitute hotel toilets for bathtubs. As a world-traveling pro wrestler, Andre the Giant did many tours of Japan. However, the hotel bathrooms in the Land of the Rising Sun are much smaller than they are in the United States, so Andre the Giant often times had to use the hotel bathtubs instead of toilets.

  366. @Steve Sailer
    @R.G. Camara

    iSteve commenter Art Deco is not Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg.

    You aren't a terrible commenter, so I've been trying to wean you off this insane delusion for years, but I'm getting tired of my kind efforts not bearing fruit.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Gordo, @Colin Wright, @Jack D, @Corvinus, @J.Ross, @R.G. Camara

    “You aren’t a terrible commenter”

    That was a knee slapper.

    Now on your Substack, there was a fellow contributor who made an interesting observation. What do you think? You know, throw us some scraps.

    —Last weekend has changed the course of American political history. A narrow miss to Donald Trump’s head has unified the American Right. It is imperative for every conservative to know that now is the time to take charge of the political climate in 2024 and onward. Republicans must take this opportunity to not just remain relevant, but to become powerful.

    To do this successfully, conservatives must do two things: First, they must unapologetically support Donald Trump in his run for President in the 2024 election. Second, the movement must shed its desire to protect civility politics. Conservatives must not shy away from seeking retribution for progressive transgressions. If there was ever a time to “cancel” your leftist co-worker, now is the time. If they had ever wished for the death of Donald Trump, members of his administration, his SCOTUS selections, or his supporters, now is the time to respond. Respectability politics is a dead game.

    Of course, there is no telling what exactly Crooks’ political inclinations were (it is painfully misaligned and gives every signal of a maladaptive individual) and it most likely wasn’t his intention to kill Comepratore especially. That is not up for debate. Crooks’ actions do provide a definite heuristic for even your most banal, midwit IQ American can: they want you dead.—

  367. @R.G. Camara
    @Art Deco

    lol. Nice try on lying there, Jeffrey Goldberg.

    Jeb was the odds-on favorite in 2016. All the neocons and Fox News talking heads were hyping him. Even Greg Gutfeld of Fox News was on board, calling for him because of his "electability." Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich were not the front runners; Jeb, with his successful governorship of Florida (still a swing state then), his Bush dynasty name, and his war chest, was seen by all as the incoming Republican candidate.

    Trump blew that out of the water. Trump's style is not to roll up small victories, but to attack the biggest baddest opponent/problem first and then let the momentum carry him. And that was Jeb. Jeb was totally unprepared for such an attack; he expected that any frontal attack on him would come later once the other lessers had sorted themselves out. Jeb discovered his popularity and enthusiasm was skin-deep and he really didn't have a following strong enough yet to withstand Trump's blows. And the Bush name slowly was revealed to be mud amongst the right who hated endless wars and open borders. Trump's seizing of the immigration issue while Jeb touted his Mexican wife and compassionate conservative/open boders/NAFTA credentials killed him. It led to the infamous moment where Jeb had to beg an audience to "please clap".

    Trump eliminated Jeb first, and the rest were then on notice.

    Now go back to calling Trump Hitler at The Atlantic, being a war mongering war criminal, and working for Mrs. Jobs, the Epstein Island frequent flyer. You are dismissed, liar.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Corvinus

    We can’t wait for you to subscribe to Mr. Sailer’s Substack and make such pithy observations, Andrew Anglin. How much does Putin pay you?

  368. @HA
    @YetAnotherAnon

    "Why can’t you just accept that Putin is a Russian patriot ?"

    Because that's not the issue, is it? I'm sure plenty of people thought that Hitler, decorated war veteran, and tireless campaigner for German interests, was a German patriot, too. Again, it's not relevant. No, it was all that warmongering and invading and mass slaughter that didn't go over well, not the patriotism; after all, plenty of peaceful Germans had ample reserves of that.

    Similarly, what sane people take issue with is Putin's decision to invade a country in order to get what he could have easily gotten without firing a single shot (you know, just like the fanboys claim that Nuland was able to do with little more than a basket of pastries and some persistence). As has been explained here dozens of time, if Putin is so hot and bothered about NATO, he should have resisted the temptation to tear off chunks of other countries, not to mention invading them, and that's especially true of countries that Russia specifically promised to not invade and tear apart. Because that's EXACTLY the kind of thing that makes said country want to join a security alliance like NATO -- how is that a mystery to you or anyone else at this point?

    Ukraine's populace had meager interest in joining up with NATO prior to Crimea's swipe -- we're talking polling numbers consistently in the mid-20's or so. Whereas after the swipe, push for NATO accession became the norm. You want to tell me that's some curious coincidence? If it isn't, then face it: it's your boy's fault that Ukraine wants to join NATO. He has no one to blame but himself, and maybe his idiot enablers in the West who realized far too late that he needs to be contained.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    You keep talking about how Russia’s invasion made the (rump) Ukrainian population want to join NATO but don’t show any signs of grasping that Crimea and the Donbas are now part of Russia instead of being a staging are for an anti-Russia cabal and rump Ukraine will probably have to agree to be NATO-free if it is to survive at all. After the coup Kyivan Ukraine was already a de-facto adjunct of NATO; now, going forward, that will no longer be the case. Whether invading Ukraine was worth it is an argument that can be had; that it made Russia’s geopolitical position worse is a fantasy.

    • Agree: J.Ross
    • Replies: @HA
    @Gandydancer

    "You keep talking about how Russia’s invasion made the (rump) Ukrainian population want to join NATO but don’t show any signs of grasping that Crimea and the Donbas are now part of Russia instead of being a staging are for an anti-Russia cabal and rump Ukraine will probably have to agree to be NATO-free if it is to survive at all. "

    The fanboys are really doubling down on the "Yeah, but what about THAT?" red herrings and deflections and goalpost shifts these days, so let's recap for those whose short-term memories are more functional than yours: Some fanboy upthread claimed that NATO forced Russia to invade (or something like that -- it's not so much that I forgot what he said as much as realized within a sentence or two that it wasn't going to be worth reading any further). Oh yeah, he also wanted me to acknowledge that Putin was a "patriot". (See what I mean about red herrings?)

    I responded that Putin's patriotism is beside the point, and that Russia's approach to getting Ukraine to like it better by pounding it into submission and tearing off chunks is exactly the kind of thing that pushed it towards NATO, and that before that happened, Ukraine had no serious interest in joining. Since you don't even deny that, but would rather move on to other topics -- i.e. hoping to recover with some best 2-out-of-3 extension, I think I made my point well enough.

    As for handwaving about what Ukraine will "probably" have to agree to, spare me. I've been hearing how Ukraine is "probably" two weeks away from outright capitulation for about two years now. The fact that Kyiv is still even in Ukrainian hands after more than two years after even our analysts were saying it would go down in a week or so, is about as improbable as it gets, so doubling down on some scaled down version on what happens now is an implicit admission that things haven't gone according to Putin's plans. And don't forget Finland and Sweden. Russia swiped some territory from the former a while back, too, as you gleefully noted at some point. Well, evidently, the Finns didn't forget. Strange how that works.

    So if NATO is as real threat as was claimed upthread, then the fact that Russia has two new NATO members as next-door neighbors isn't much of a win either, is it? But I get it -- every day, and in every way, things are only looking up for Russia, so let's ignore all that and pretend that everything is working out as planned and that Donbass and Crimea are the real prize in all this. Weird how that works.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    , @Jack D
    @Gandydancer


    that it made Russia’s geopolitical position worse is a fantasy.
     
    Was the USSR's geopolitical position in the Baltics "better" in 1945 than it had been in 1939? Yes, but these gains were temporary. Not only were the Russians pushed out of the Baltics in the long run but they are going to be hated there for centuries. Come back in 50 years and we'll know whether the gains in Ukraine were permanent or not. It's way too soon to say.

    They could even be like the German gains in Europe after 1939 - gone within a handful of years. The USSR, for all of its faults, had a unifying ideology. a collective leadership and a lot of stability so they were able to keep their WWII gains for almost 50 years.

    Putin's regime has none of these features. They are just a mafia state. Will Putinism survive Putin? Even putting aside his foreign adventures, Putin is sitting on a demographic and economic pressure cooker. He is strong enough to keep the lid on, but will his successors be strong enough?

    Replies: @Gandydancer

  369. @Mark G.
    @Reg Cæsar

    "fewer than 40 percent of the delegates considered themselves pro-life"

    https://muse.jhu.edu/article/461985/pdf

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Reg Cæsar

    “fewer than 40 percent of the delegates considered themselves pro-life”

    Daniel K Williams wrote this in 2011, and used anachronistic and sloppy language. Those terms were new and not as current at the time. Several years later, he published a book– which I’ve read in its entirety– and was more careful. (Williams, by the way, wasn’t there. He was a year old at the time.)

    The abstract cites Barry Goldwater, married to his state’s Planned Parenthood’s president, Nelson Rockefeller, a creep, and Betty Ford, a less-obvious creep. This is not a cross-section of the GOP rank-and-file of 1976. The one that listened to Mrs Schlafly and was about to slam the brakes on the ERA.

    There was a “Protestant” position one doesn’t see much anymore, wary of, sometimes antagonistic to, elective abortion based not on the status of the child but on the effects it would have on the mores of society as a whole. This would have been common among Republicans before the 1970s. Do you really think the GOP of 1966, 1956, or 1946 would have polled “pro-choice”? That was a boutique belief held by some ivory-tower élites.

    Consider this: Gov Ronald Reagan’s main contribution to that abortion liberalization bill was getting “fetal deformity” removed as a justification. He refused to sign it otherwise. Does that sound “pro-choice”? Was this the Democrat in him?

    You picked a careless account of a transitory moment in a time of flux in the most radical decade of the last century. Besides, “fewer than 40 percent considered themselves pro-life” does not mean that “more than 60 percent considered themselves pro-choice”.

  370. @Gandydancer
    @Reg Cæsar


    Obama, Dubya, and that other Clinton cannot serve as Vice President anymore, as they are now ineligible for the Presidency.
     
    Who says? The term limit for the US Presidency was established by the 22nd Amendment which, in relevant part, says only the following:

    No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.
     
    I'm not seeing any limit on the number of times a person can become President so long as his succession is not by way of election to THAT office.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I’m not seeing any limit on the number of times a person can become President so long as his succession is not by way of election to THAT office.

    Election by whom? It doesn’t specify.

    Replacing the President when necessary is a integral part of the VP’s duties, indeed, the most fundamental of them. Do you really imagine that, when seeing that second name on the ballot, voters are thinking of the man more as President of the Senate than as potential President of the United States?

    Thus, by electing him to the Vice Presidency, we have elected him to the Presidency. I’m willing to bet an originalist Supreme Court would be more willing to view it this way than to accept that the authors deliberately inserted a loophole that undercuts the very purpose of the amendment.

    That’s an originalist take. You wise Latinas will no doubt rule differently!

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Reg Cæsar


    ... electing him to the Vice Presidency, we have elected him to the Presidency.
     
    That's an absurd take. Again, the Constitution says, "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice", and no, being elected to a different office, namely Vice President, is clearly not the same as being elected to the Presidency. Try so veto a bill or sign one and you'll quickly discover the difference. The language is perfectly clear with no ambiguity whatsoever. If you don't like it the path of again amending the Constitution is open to you, but not liking what it says is no excuse for inserting meanings that aren't there. That way lies Roe v Wade.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  371. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Jack D

    "Anyway, the Russians have now taken the approach that all “foreign interference” at home (e.g. having a free press or saying anything against Putin) is illegal or spying and will get you 16 years in prison so they are not in a good position to say that it’s OK for them to interfere in US elections. Again, one or the other, either “foreign interference” is OK everywhere or it is not OK anywhere. If the US is doing this then condemn it but don’t imitate it. "

    Are you finished?

    For all the crowing about having a free press, how'd the US Deep State treat Julian Assange?

    That name will be forever a black mark vs the US, and how it treats journalists of the press.

    Go ahead. Waiting for you to repeat the Deep State talking points "He wasn't an accredited journalist therefore Julian deserved what he got!"--uh, yes, a decade in prison, his life made a living hell, kangaroo court to try and extradite him to the US for a lifetime of prison.

    Go ahead. Blame Putin for Julian Assange, that Julian was actually working undercover for the Kremlin. Go ahead.

    Assange. Assange. Assange.

    Again, and THAT will be forever a black mark on the US and how it treats journalists of the press.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Do you have any other method but “but what about”?

    Releasing genuine top government secrets that put the life of American intelligence assets in danger is nothing like the “espionage” that Gershkovich did by publicly visiting Yekatarinburg as a legitimate journalist.

    Russia, even under the Soviets, always maintained a sham cargo cult system of legality so that they could point to Western parallels – you have a court system, we have a court system, you have a constitution, we have a constitution, etc. The forms were all there just like the “radio” towers that the cargo cultists built from bamboo and vine. It was just the substance that was and is lacking.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Jack D

    Russia, even under the Soviets, always maintained a sham cargo cult system of legality so that they could point to Western parallels

    Totally ignored the US involvement with Assange. Don't blame you, as it is a black mark vs the US, government, system, etc.

    Guess you're one of those "The US is always right!"

    "Napoleon is always right! I will work even harder (for the government)"--Animal Farm

    Fuck your tautology.

  372. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @AnotherDad

    A 16th CE Chinese scholar-official wrote a letter to a corrupt decadent emperor-- stating that he's a piece of shit. But if he gets his act together he can become a sage emperor ascribed in the classics.

    The emperor read the letter and went apeshit. Ordering the eunuchs to "Catch this man, don't let him get away!"

    The eunuch official replied: "Your majesty, this man is an idiot. He's waiting at home and has already prepared a casket."

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/%E6%B5%B7%E7%91%9E.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hai_Rui

    If your ideas are so brilliant go publish them under your real name. What do you have to lose?

    No. You trash your own women under anonymous handle and act like you are some tough guy.

    If you were ever doxxed you would shit your pants. Old turd.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Torna atrás

    As you probably know, Dr. Seuss is in the process of being unpersonned and erased from literature. The reason is some allegedly racist drawings of Japanese people (more excuses have been brought forth, but I’m focusing in the Japanese issue).

    What the sanctimonious cancelmob is ignorant of is that Seuss belonged to the WWII generation, where many Americans were anti-Japanese (not anti-Asian) and many if not most Japanese were anti-American. Virulently so. This was entirely expected, as the two countries were at war with each other. And in fact, both governments actively encouraged such attitudes — the enemy must be dehumanized in war, as we all know.

    Yes, Seuss drew a few propaganda caricatures of the Japanese. And in the same period, the Japanese committed heinous war crimes against American POWs, including murdering 40% of American prisoners of war in violation of Japanese law and the Geneva Conventions. For reference, less than 1% of American POWs died at the hands of the Nazis.

    Now they’re weak, but in WWII the Japanese were bloodthirsty, monstrous mass murderers of POWs and civilians alike. They murdered 40 times more American prisoners of war than the Nazis. And they refuse to apologize for it to this day.

    This is the world in which Seuss drew a few tacky caricatures of the Japanese.

    To cancel him for this would be like canceling Hogan’s Heroes for their undeniably funny depiction of Germans.

  373. @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    '...Why on earth would Jews want Canada filled with Indians? How do they benefit from that?'
     
    A lot of what Jews push is foolish, self-destructive, and irrational. However, that doesn't do the rest of us much good.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    You do not understand how many more Jews are in the US compared to Canada.

    51% of Jews worldwide live in the US. 30% live in Israel. 3% live in Canada.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country

    It’s been years since I even met a Jew. There’s almost none in BC.

    They just don’t have the influence here that they do in the US.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Frau Katze

    The whole " the Jews want drown the Goyim with immigrants" premise espoused by the anti-Semitic Men of Unz is idiotic, but your experience in BC is not typical.

    In metro Toronto for example, there are almost 200,000 Jews and a thriving Jewish community. Several, in fact. You have your semi-secular Ashkenazi Jews, the Orthodox, the Sephardic Moroccan Jews, etc. each with their own schools and institutions, etc. Unlike American cities, the ethnic communities of Toronto were not driven out of the city by violent crime and so it retains many of its traditional ethnic neighborhoods including the Jewish areas. In some ways, the Jewish communal life of Toronto is more intact and less atomized than in the US. The push to suburbia really destroyed a lot of ethnic culture in America and scrambled the omelet far more than in the old city centers. So I'm pretty sure that anyone living in Toronto meets Jews on a more than once every few years basis.

    Montreal also retains a large Jewish community. Even Vancouver has something like 20,000 Jews so you have probably met some, but not having the highly attuned Jewdar of the Men of Unz you might not have even noticed. Jenner could give you some Jew spotting lessons that he picked up from his old German friends.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Reg Cæsar

    , @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    There's a similar effect of disproportionate representation in entertainment (compounded when they make it big and come down here), but there's also the fact that Canadian Jews are Canadian. One thing you would stereotypically expect of an American Jew is something along the lines of brashness, loudness, tactlessness, merciless honesty, and this is even more so among Israelis of older generations (although younger Israelis are closer to being like Europeans) -- but you would not stereotypically expect this of a Canadian Jew.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    'You do not understand how many more Jews are in the US compared to Canada.

    51% of Jews worldwide live in the US. 30% live in Israel. 3% live in Canada.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country

    It’s been years since I even met a Jew. There’s almost none in BC.

    They just don’t have the influence here that they do in the US.'
     
    This rests on the breathtaking proposition that Canada is ideologically independent of the US.

    Why are you here? Think about it.
  374. HA says:
    @Gandydancer
    @HA

    You keep talking about how Russia's invasion made the (rump) Ukrainian population want to join NATO but don't show any signs of grasping that Crimea and the Donbas are now part of Russia instead of being a staging are for an anti-Russia cabal and rump Ukraine will probably have to agree to be NATO-free if it is to survive at all. After the coup Kyivan Ukraine was already a de-facto adjunct of NATO; now, going forward, that will no longer be the case. Whether invading Ukraine was worth it is an argument that can be had; that it made Russia's geopolitical position worse is a fantasy.

    Replies: @HA, @Jack D

    “You keep talking about how Russia’s invasion made the (rump) Ukrainian population want to join NATO but don’t show any signs of grasping that Crimea and the Donbas are now part of Russia instead of being a staging are for an anti-Russia cabal and rump Ukraine will probably have to agree to be NATO-free if it is to survive at all. “

    The fanboys are really doubling down on the “Yeah, but what about THAT?” red herrings and deflections and goalpost shifts these days, so let’s recap for those whose short-term memories are more functional than yours: Some fanboy upthread claimed that NATO forced Russia to invade (or something like that — it’s not so much that I forgot what he said as much as realized within a sentence or two that it wasn’t going to be worth reading any further). Oh yeah, he also wanted me to acknowledge that Putin was a “patriot”. (See what I mean about red herrings?)

    I responded that Putin’s patriotism is beside the point, and that Russia’s approach to getting Ukraine to like it better by pounding it into submission and tearing off chunks is exactly the kind of thing that pushed it towards NATO, and that before that happened, Ukraine had no serious interest in joining. Since you don’t even deny that, but would rather move on to other topics — i.e. hoping to recover with some best 2-out-of-3 extension, I think I made my point well enough.

    As for handwaving about what Ukraine will “probably” have to agree to, spare me. I’ve been hearing how Ukraine is “probably” two weeks away from outright capitulation for about two years now. The fact that Kyiv is still even in Ukrainian hands after more than two years after even our analysts were saying it would go down in a week or so, is about as improbable as it gets, so doubling down on some scaled down version on what happens now is an implicit admission that things haven’t gone according to Putin’s plans. And don’t forget Finland and Sweden. Russia swiped some territory from the former a while back, too, as you gleefully noted at some point. Well, evidently, the Finns didn’t forget. Strange how that works.

    So if NATO is as real threat as was claimed upthread, then the fact that Russia has two new NATO members as next-door neighbors isn’t much of a win either, is it? But I get it — every day, and in every way, things are only looking up for Russia, so let’s ignore all that and pretend that everything is working out as planned and that Donbass and Crimea are the real prize in all this. Weird how that works.

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    @HA


    ...exactly the kind of thing that pushed it towards NATO, and that before that happened, Ukraine had no serious interest in joining...
     
    Nonsense. As I said, Ukraine became a NATO adjunct in 2014 and Russia decided that that will not stand, and it won't.

    Graveyard on your right, keep whistling. It doesn't matter whether Sweden or Finland are let into NATO, they were already anti-Russian. And, yes the acquisition of Crimea (with its Russian-speaking population and the naval base at Sebastopol ) and the Donbas are real prizes, permanently changed facts on the ground, and it's silly of you to deny this. But instead you're still pretending that it's 2022 and that nothing has changed about the inadequacy of the Russia invasion force, I of course have never said that everything went according to plan or expressed any interest in Putin's patriotism, but you WILL fight your straw men, won't you?

    Replies: @HA

  375. @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    You do not understand how many more Jews are in the US compared to Canada.

    51% of Jews worldwide live in the US. 30% live in Israel. 3% live in Canada.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country

    It’s been years since I even met a Jew. There’s almost none in BC.

    They just don’t have the influence here that they do in the US.

    Replies: @Jack D, @J.Ross, @Colin Wright

    The whole ” the Jews want drown the Goyim with immigrants” premise espoused by the anti-Semitic Men of Unz is idiotic, but your experience in BC is not typical.

    In metro Toronto for example, there are almost 200,000 Jews and a thriving Jewish community. Several, in fact. You have your semi-secular Ashkenazi Jews, the Orthodox, the Sephardic Moroccan Jews, etc. each with their own schools and institutions, etc. Unlike American cities, the ethnic communities of Toronto were not driven out of the city by violent crime and so it retains many of its traditional ethnic neighborhoods including the Jewish areas. In some ways, the Jewish communal life of Toronto is more intact and less atomized than in the US. The push to suburbia really destroyed a lot of ethnic culture in America and scrambled the omelet far more than in the old city centers. So I’m pretty sure that anyone living in Toronto meets Jews on a more than once every few years basis.

    Montreal also retains a large Jewish community. Even Vancouver has something like 20,000 Jews so you have probably met some, but not having the highly attuned Jewdar of the Men of Unz you might not have even noticed. Jenner could give you some Jew spotting lessons that he picked up from his old German friends.

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Jack D

    No doubt I’ve met Jews I’m not aware of.

    Also there are quite a few in eastern Canada.

    I did know a few in Vancouver but I’m now in Victoria, on Vancouver Island. There is one synagogue here I’m aware of.

    Still it’s far fewer than the US, especially the northeast.

    Ethnic groups did tend to clump together in North America when they first arrived.

    For example, the Irish preferred the US (perhaps because it had broken off from the much hated UK) while Scots preferred Canada. (Not exclusively of course).

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    Montreal also retains a large Jewish community.
     
    Duddy Kravitz!

    My train car to Montreal carried a large family of Hasidim, all yakking in French. Well, joual.

    This clearly doesn't apply to all of them:

    Deprived of a secular education, former Hasidic man takes on the Quebec government

    Salad bowl, indeed.
  376. @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    You do not understand how many more Jews are in the US compared to Canada.

    51% of Jews worldwide live in the US. 30% live in Israel. 3% live in Canada.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country

    It’s been years since I even met a Jew. There’s almost none in BC.

    They just don’t have the influence here that they do in the US.

    Replies: @Jack D, @J.Ross, @Colin Wright

    There’s a similar effect of disproportionate representation in entertainment (compounded when they make it big and come down here), but there’s also the fact that Canadian Jews are Canadian. One thing you would stereotypically expect of an American Jew is something along the lines of brashness, loudness, tactlessness, merciless honesty, and this is even more so among Israelis of older generations (although younger Israelis are closer to being like Europeans) — but you would not stereotypically expect this of a Canadian Jew.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @J.Ross

    One thing you would stereotypically expect of an American Jew is something along the lines of brashness, loudness, tactlessness, merciless honesty,
    ==
    I gather the list of Jews you've met in meatspace begins and ends with Bella Abzug.

  377. @Steve Sailer
    @R.G. Camara

    iSteve commenter Art Deco is not Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg.

    You aren't a terrible commenter, so I've been trying to wean you off this insane delusion for years, but I'm getting tired of my kind efforts not bearing fruit.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Gordo, @Colin Wright, @Jack D, @Corvinus, @J.Ross, @R.G. Camara

    Absolutely. Goldberg’s an idiot, a blatherer, and a Democrat. Art Deco is consistently knowledgable about recorded statistics, represents classic center-right thinking of his generation, and is to the point.

    • Agree: mc23
  378. @Jack D
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Do you have any other method but "but what about"?

    Releasing genuine top government secrets that put the life of American intelligence assets in danger is nothing like the "espionage" that Gershkovich did by publicly visiting Yekatarinburg as a legitimate journalist.

    Russia, even under the Soviets, always maintained a sham cargo cult system of legality so that they could point to Western parallels - you have a court system, we have a court system, you have a constitution, we have a constitution, etc. The forms were all there just like the "radio" towers that the cargo cultists built from bamboo and vine. It was just the substance that was and is lacking.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Russia, even under the Soviets, always maintained a sham cargo cult system of legality so that they could point to Western parallels

    Totally ignored the US involvement with Assange. Don’t blame you, as it is a black mark vs the US, government, system, etc.

    Guess you’re one of those “The US is always right!”

    “Napoleon is always right! I will work even harder (for the government)”–Animal Farm

    Fuck your tautology.

  379. @Jack D
    @Frau Katze

    The whole " the Jews want drown the Goyim with immigrants" premise espoused by the anti-Semitic Men of Unz is idiotic, but your experience in BC is not typical.

    In metro Toronto for example, there are almost 200,000 Jews and a thriving Jewish community. Several, in fact. You have your semi-secular Ashkenazi Jews, the Orthodox, the Sephardic Moroccan Jews, etc. each with their own schools and institutions, etc. Unlike American cities, the ethnic communities of Toronto were not driven out of the city by violent crime and so it retains many of its traditional ethnic neighborhoods including the Jewish areas. In some ways, the Jewish communal life of Toronto is more intact and less atomized than in the US. The push to suburbia really destroyed a lot of ethnic culture in America and scrambled the omelet far more than in the old city centers. So I'm pretty sure that anyone living in Toronto meets Jews on a more than once every few years basis.

    Montreal also retains a large Jewish community. Even Vancouver has something like 20,000 Jews so you have probably met some, but not having the highly attuned Jewdar of the Men of Unz you might not have even noticed. Jenner could give you some Jew spotting lessons that he picked up from his old German friends.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Reg Cæsar

    No doubt I’ve met Jews I’m not aware of.

    Also there are quite a few in eastern Canada.

    I did know a few in Vancouver but I’m now in Victoria, on Vancouver Island. There is one synagogue here I’m aware of.

    Still it’s far fewer than the US, especially the northeast.

    Ethnic groups did tend to clump together in North America when they first arrived.

    For example, the Irish preferred the US (perhaps because it had broken off from the much hated UK) while Scots preferred Canada. (Not exclusively of course).

  380. @Gandydancer
    @HA

    You keep talking about how Russia's invasion made the (rump) Ukrainian population want to join NATO but don't show any signs of grasping that Crimea and the Donbas are now part of Russia instead of being a staging are for an anti-Russia cabal and rump Ukraine will probably have to agree to be NATO-free if it is to survive at all. After the coup Kyivan Ukraine was already a de-facto adjunct of NATO; now, going forward, that will no longer be the case. Whether invading Ukraine was worth it is an argument that can be had; that it made Russia's geopolitical position worse is a fantasy.

    Replies: @HA, @Jack D

    that it made Russia’s geopolitical position worse is a fantasy.

    Was the USSR’s geopolitical position in the Baltics “better” in 1945 than it had been in 1939? Yes, but these gains were temporary. Not only were the Russians pushed out of the Baltics in the long run but they are going to be hated there for centuries. Come back in 50 years and we’ll know whether the gains in Ukraine were permanent or not. It’s way too soon to say.

    They could even be like the German gains in Europe after 1939 – gone within a handful of years. The USSR, for all of its faults, had a unifying ideology. a collective leadership and a lot of stability so they were able to keep their WWII gains for almost 50 years.

    Putin’s regime has none of these features. They are just a mafia state. Will Putinism survive Putin? Even putting aside his foreign adventures, Putin is sitting on a demographic and economic pressure cooker. He is strong enough to keep the lid on, but will his successors be strong enough?

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Jack D

    Strong enough to prevent what? Dissolution of Russia (including Crimea and the Donbas)? No sign of that. Nothing is permanent, but the Russian gains in this war are likely to be as permanent as any border on the planet. The population of the Baltics were not Russian, but the reacquired/acquired territories are different in that respect. When will Poland's lost territories be reacquired from Ukraine? Well, maybe a Ukrainian collapse will change things, but it looks pretty permanent for now. As do Poland's acquisitions from Germany. The only question currently open is how soon Ukraine will cut a deal and how bad it will be for the current regime in Kyiv if it survives at all.

    Well, there's also the question of whether lunatics like Macron will start WW3, but that's a different type of subject.

  381. @Gandydancer
    @Gandydancer


    ,,,I expect Kamala will be the incumbent long before November.
     
    Told you so. From the second I saw the reaction to the debate. As I said I sure hoped the (D)s would stick with Biden, but didn't think even they would be that dumb. Now it's Kamela or bust. I think it will be bust, but one should never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. I thought the (D)s were too repulsive in 2020 to win despite Trump being such weak sauce, but I was wrong about that. It WAS close enough to steal, which was inexcusable.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Told you so. From the second I saw the reaction to the debate. As I said I sure hoped the (D)s would stick with Biden, but didn’t think even they would be that dumb. Now it’s Kamela or bust.

    It is not Kamela or bust at this point.

    She still has to get through a brokered convention.

    The Democrats know that she is terrible and as such it’s too early to state if they will back her.

    If they back her it will be an AA move and everyone knows it. She has somehow bombed being VP which really takes a lack of talent. It’s mostly a superficial position.

    The safer move is to back a moderate that is separate from Biden.

    I thought the (D)s were too repulsive in 2020 to win despite Trump being such weak sauce, but I was wrong about that. It WAS close enough to steal, which was inexcusable.

    Well exit polls showed that Trump lost independents, White women and blue collar voters that crossed lines.

    He has not gained those White women back which means he will have to do better with another group.

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    @John Johnson

    It's Kamela or bust. The (D)s can't afford for blacks to stay home, and their pathological worship of blacks as a victim group prohibits replacing her anyway. The people brokering the convention know this perfectly well so the brokering will be in her favor. The only remaining question is how long it will take them to extract the Presidency from Biden's palsied but determined grip to transfer it to her.

    Harris has been a zero as VP, so non-political-junkies don't really have an opinion on her. The (D)s will have the media and money and they'll be able to fill the vacancy pretty much as well as they did with Biden, who was also a zero despite a long career representing credit card companies and engaging in other corruption.

    Trump has gained everywhere and the Dems have lost everywhere. I can't imagine how you have missed this. So Kemela should lose. But there are NO alternatives.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  382. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @AnotherDad

    "Same as with blacks and crime. You don’t “name the black”, you denounce crime, call for “law and order” and locking up criminals. If blacks start whining that denouncing crime is attacking blacks, or blacks are more likely to be locked up, you respond “Well then blacks should do better. Stop tolerating criminals in your communities—zero tolerance. Black men should work harder to keep their sons on the straight and narrow—out of gangs, off the criminal path. It’s your community, you need to fix it.”

    Bullshit.

    This whole personal responsibility schitck happened during the 80's and 90's, hell, Rush Limbaugh made an entire career riffing on this aspect of aspect of social problems. Well, 40 yrs on and we now have evidence it has failed.

    It hasn't worked because:

    1. Libs and blacks still turned around and screamed raycist raycist raycist!

    2. Personal Responsiblity a la "Just do better and try harder!" only works so far as long as those at the top aren't also evading personal responsibility. When they shipped jobs to Mexico, China, etc and people complained, the rejoinder was "ignore that and do better, try harder!" when they polluted the environment and rewrote laws to make it less worker friendly for the top 1% benefit, the rejoinder was "ignore that and do better, try harder!

    But eventually one can only do and try for so long, until the rug and the matt are pulled out from underneath, as well as the foundation is completely obliterated.

    Funny thing. Never saw Rush, Hannity, and other cultural conservatives lambast big business, top 1%, and all the GOP leaders.

    Hmm.

    Its almost like they were in the same boat and in bed with them all during this time.

    Double Hmm.

    Do better and try harder. The top 1% has totally ignored the first part of that sentence, but they definitely are trying harder---trying harder to screw the other 95% out of what little aspect of a middle class life remains. People such as Jeffrey Epstein were not a symptom but a feature of that lassiez faire era that thrived under the ol' "do better and try harder" and meanwhile not holding the top 1% accountable for any of their actions that diectly impacted the bottom 90%.

    Triple Hmm.

    "history will not be kind to Rush Limbaugh"--Andrew Anglin

    Andy spoke the truth on that one.

    Replies: @Getaclue, @OilcanFloyd

    “history will not be kind to Rush Limbaugh”–Andrew Anglin

    Limbaugh was such a fraud, as is Hannity. God only knows what someone like Epstein had on him.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @OilcanFloyd

    Limbaugh was such a fraud, as is Hannity. God only knows what someone like Epstein had on him.

    Are you kidding me? You think a Con Inc scumster like Limbaugh needs an Epstein to blackmail him?

    You should really spend more time around conservative Whites if you think Limbaugh is some anomaly. It's a common belief among upper class Whites that the masses need to be told fibs about the economy.

    I used to hang around a GOP activist and he would readily admit in private that they had to lie about race. They need Limbaughs to keep the White workers into believing that "minimal government" is everything and race is just paint color. I would point out that he didn't like how liberals lied to students and he would agree. But that's different because they're evil. The message was that our lies are better.

    I've had Con Inc supporters even at Unz fully admit that Hannity and Limbaugh types can't be honest about race. They fear a breakdown of society if Whites learn the truth. Why give tax breaks to the wealthy if economic standards have more to do with race? Why serve the best interest of the wealthy? They DO NOT want Whites going down that path. Better to have "Football Sundays" and keep Whites thinking that Haiti just needs some tax breaks and charter schools.

    Con Inc is an alliance of Whites that supports lying to other Whites. I find it to be morally disgusting but in their minds it's for the best. They believe pretty lies have to exist to stop the really bad lies of liberalism.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @OilcanFloyd

  383. She still has to get through a brokered convention.

    I saw on Twitter an hour or two ago 1100+ delegates have already committed to her, this being one day after Biden withdrew.

    If the powers that be want a brokered convention they better keep the remaining delegates in line.

  384. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @John Gruskos

    "The other planks won’t matter if “Israel First” costs Trump the election."

    Come come now. It's highly unlikely that the Democrats will nominate an anti-Israel, or a mildly pro-Palestinian candidate. The Democratic leadership is just as much in the pockets of the Israeli lobby and their Jewish donor billionaires. We saw them on full display several months ago during the hearings when the Ivy League presidents were ousted over alleged tolerance of "anti-semitism". There are also several neocons entrenched in the Democratic party as well. The issue will be a wash. Neither side will be directly affected by it, while both candidates will officially say something neutral regarding the Palestinians. And of course the MSM won't dare hold either side accountable on that specific issue either, as the MSM as a whole is thoroughly dominated by the Israeli lobbyists, more or less.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Come come now. It’s highly unlikely that the Democrats will nominate an anti-Israel, or a mildly pro-Palestinian candidate.

    I honestly think they would let Trump win before doing that.

    The Democrats already went after “the squad” alliance for not being sufficiently pro-Israel after the October 4th attack. One of them was replaced with a White guy which says enough. Cross that line and will primary yo ass with anyone……even a White muthafucka.

  385. @OilcanFloyd
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi


    “history will not be kind to Rush Limbaugh”–Andrew Anglin
     
    Limbaugh was such a fraud, as is Hannity. God only knows what someone like Epstein had on him.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Limbaugh was such a fraud, as is Hannity. God only knows what someone like Epstein had on him.

    Are you kidding me? You think a Con Inc scumster like Limbaugh needs an Epstein to blackmail him?

    You should really spend more time around conservative Whites if you think Limbaugh is some anomaly. It’s a common belief among upper class Whites that the masses need to be told fibs about the economy.

    I used to hang around a GOP activist and he would readily admit in private that they had to lie about race. They need Limbaughs to keep the White workers into believing that “minimal government” is everything and race is just paint color. I would point out that he didn’t like how liberals lied to students and he would agree. But that’s different because they’re evil. The message was that our lies are better.

    I’ve had Con Inc supporters even at Unz fully admit that Hannity and Limbaugh types can’t be honest about race. They fear a breakdown of society if Whites learn the truth. Why give tax breaks to the wealthy if economic standards have more to do with race? Why serve the best interest of the wealthy? They DO NOT want Whites going down that path. Better to have “Football Sundays” and keep Whites thinking that Haiti just needs some tax breaks and charter schools.

    Con Inc is an alliance of Whites that supports lying to other Whites. I find it to be morally disgusting but in their minds it’s for the best. They believe pretty lies have to exist to stop the really bad lies of liberalism.

    • Agree: Frau Katze
    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @John Johnson

    Well that's good to hear. Was starting to think you were a pro-Limbaugh supporter type. As to the rest your ideas regarding lies have to be told to the masses regarding race...

    "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."--John Ford

    "Truth is so precious that it must be surrounded by a wall of lies"--(attributed to) Winston Churchill

    It is the LEGEND, that helps to preserve the system itself, and once the full unvarnished naked truth is finally exposed to all to see and can't be denied, that's when the fun will begin. When the masses finally and fully figure out that they've been lied to then the fun will begin.

    Party like its 1789 (in Paris).

    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @John Johnson

    "You think a Con Inc scumster like Limbaugh needs an Epstein to blackmail him?"

    Uh, yes. Yes I do actually. Not "needs", but more in the way of absolute power corrupts absolutely type of thing (or absolute influence). I think over time, Rush began to really believe that he was the Rush Limbaugh image that he presented to his audience. Also, as he was part of the top 1%, Rush moved in similar circles as those that would've personally known Epstein. If one amasses that amount of wealth and no real connection to a community or a family, then one can:

    #1. Become more altruistic--invest in various causes or charities. (give outwardly to others)

    #2. Become more selfish--invest in oneself (focus inwardly on one's self and that quite selfishly)

    And Rush chose to do #2

    I'm still surprised that no indepth biography has been written about him, I mean, a tell all things behind the scenes that would shock his audience biography, not a fawning hagiography.

    His third wife could certainly write one, as he's passed and she can't be sued now.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    , @OilcanFloyd
    @John Johnson


    Are you kidding me? You think a Con Inc scumster like Limbaugh needs an Epstein to blackmail him?
     
    Based on the old rumor that Rush had viagra and underage girls on a plane with him, yes I do. Was the claim true? I don't know, but he seemed like the type that could be easily compromised.

    You should really spend more time around conservative Whites if you think Limbaugh is some anomaly. It’s a common belief among upper class Whites that the masses need to be told fibs about the economy.

     

    Upper class or conservative? I don't usually consider any of our upper classes to be conservatives. I spend plenty of time around conservative whites, and I don't think many would relate to Limbaugh types, Republican activists, or upper class types in person. Of course our betters think they have to lie to the rest of us, which why I call them frauds.

    I didn't mention race, but I don't think we would disagree there.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @John Johnson

  386. @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    You do not understand how many more Jews are in the US compared to Canada.

    51% of Jews worldwide live in the US. 30% live in Israel. 3% live in Canada.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country

    It’s been years since I even met a Jew. There’s almost none in BC.

    They just don’t have the influence here that they do in the US.

    Replies: @Jack D, @J.Ross, @Colin Wright

    ‘You do not understand how many more Jews are in the US compared to Canada.

    51% of Jews worldwide live in the US. 30% live in Israel. 3% live in Canada.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country

    It’s been years since I even met a Jew. There’s almost none in BC.

    They just don’t have the influence here that they do in the US.’

    This rests on the breathtaking proposition that Canada is ideologically independent of the US.

    Why are you here? Think about it.

  387. @Gandydancer
    @AnotherDad


    Having a shabbos like Biden works better.
     
    I'm not very familiar with Judaism, but this locution seemed a bit odd. As best I can determine calling a person a "shabbos" makes no sense.
    https://torah.org/torah-portion/nesivosshalom-howshabbosworks/

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘I’m not very familiar with Judaism, but this locution seemed a bit odd. As best I can determine calling a person a “shabbos” makes no sense.’

    Shabbos goy, then. As in you are a shabbos goy.

    …or just lying. One of the two. Maybe it’s like JackD being a farm boy.

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Colin Wright

    LOL! Why would I lie about not knowing what calling a person ~"a sabbath" means? Especially since it turns out that you had no more idea what you were saying than I did.

  388. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @James B. Shearer

    Up to a point yes, it is a progresssive disease. Which means that he likely had dementia all through his Vice-Presidency. He didn't just suddenly wake in up 2021 and poof, started to get minor signs of the disease.

    Which means that in 2020 when he was running for President, it was fairly obvious (especially to those people who have a loved one who is dealing with dementia) and there are millions of them out there who have a loved one who are dealing with it.

    I'm guessing he first had minor touches of it since about 2010, perhaps 2005.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    “I’m guessing he first had minor touches of it since about 2010, perhaps 2005.”

    In most cases it moves faster than that.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @James B. Shearer


    “I’m guessing he first had minor touches of it since about 2010, perhaps 2005.”

    In most cases it moves faster than that.

     

    Petain was still perfectly lucid in 1940, decidedly geriatric by 1945.
    , @R.G. Camara
    @James B. Shearer

    Biden's dementia was likely saved from earlier discovery by his relative-low-IQ for a senator. I've often pointed out that Biden is very insecure about his intelligence level; while he was never dumb (likely a 115-120 IQ), at his level of Senator/VP/Pres he was likely never the smartest person in the room (they all have 125-130 IQs).

    What's more, Biden knew that, and so was many times trying to prove himself smart and threatening those who seemed to question his brains--- hence his famous gaffe yelling at a guy in a crowd and claiming that "I have a higher IQ than you". Of course, this insecurity led Biden to many other gaffes where his try-to-look-smart schtick backfired and made him look stupid. Fredo, in a sense.

    So when he started to get dementia people just thought it was his gaffes coming back. Contrast that with Clinton or Obama or Romney, whom a dementia bout coming on would noticeably change their behavior.

    In short, Biden's dementia went undiagnosed because his stupidity was considered normal behavior for him.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @Mike Tre

    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @James B. Shearer

    Actually, there is no full understanding of how dementia arises, and how long it takes. It is a gradual process. One can have dementia for a few decades before it "suddenly become" full on obvious. I know this, because that's what i was told when taking care of someone with it.

    Oh, and as of 2024, there is no 100% cure for it. AND, we are nowhere closer to understanding the illness now than we were 30 yrs ago. Again, from those medical experts who were looking after the person I was assisting.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

  389. @Reg Cæsar
    @Gandydancer


    I’m not seeing any limit on the number of times a person can become President so long as his succession is not by way of election to THAT office.
     
    Election by whom? It doesn't specify.


    Replacing the President when necessary is a integral part of the VP's duties, indeed, the most fundamental of them. Do you really imagine that, when seeing that second name on the ballot, voters are thinking of the man more as President of the Senate than as potential President of the United States?


    Thus, by electing him to the Vice Presidency, we have elected him to the Presidency. I'm willing to bet an originalist Supreme Court would be more willing to view it this way than to accept that the authors deliberately inserted a loophole that undercuts the very purpose of the amendment.

    That's an originalist take. You wise Latinas will no doubt rule differently!

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    … electing him to the Vice Presidency, we have elected him to the Presidency.

    That’s an absurd take. Again, the Constitution says, “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice”, and no, being elected to a different office, namely Vice President, is clearly not the same as being elected to the Presidency. Try so veto a bill or sign one and you’ll quickly discover the difference. The language is perfectly clear with no ambiguity whatsoever. If you don’t like it the path of again amending the Constitution is open to you, but not liking what it says is no excuse for inserting meanings that aren’t there. That way lies Roe v Wade.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Gandydancer


    being elected to a different office, namely Vice President, is clearly not the same as being elected to the Presidency
     
    Article II, Section 1 says the President is elected "together with the Vice-President". Later, it goes on

    In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the Same shall devolve on the Vice President...
     
    Filling in for the defunct President is the designated duty of the Vice President. Part of his office.

    The language is perfectly clear with no ambiguity whatsoever.
     
    So is the fugitive slave clause; a "person held to service... shall be delivered up on claim of the party..." No period within which this is to be done is specified. Can you imagine what fun an abolitionist state could have had with that-- and how John C Calhoun would have answered?

    What you are saying is that the amendment doesn't really exist. The authors were fine with a President-for-Life, just make him go through the servants' entrance the third, fourth, fifth, etc., time? And they were shrewd enough to get this ruse past both houses of Congress and 71 chambers in 36 states?

    You're calling my take "absurd"?

    What evidence do you have that this was the intention of those who wrote the amendment? House Joint Resolution 27 of 1947, passed by 238 FDR-weary Republicans (and 47 Democrats), was sent to the Senate Judiciary Committee, who amended it to read:


    A person who has held the office of President or acted as President on three hundred and sixty-five calendar days or more in each of two terms shall not be eligible to hold the office of President, or to act as President, for any part of another term...

    https://blogs.loc.gov/law/2017/02/ratification-anniversary/
     

    The House pulled one over on the Senate? Congress on the states? The states on their own citizens? Helluva conspiracy theory! Were those 238 Republicans fools, or knaves?

    That way lies Roe v Wade.
     
    And your way lie Tito, Sukarno, Marcos, the Duvaliers, and Jean-Bédel Bokassa.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

  390. @James B. Shearer
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    "I’m guessing he first had minor touches of it since about 2010, perhaps 2005."

    In most cases it moves faster than that.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @R.G. Camara, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    “I’m guessing he first had minor touches of it since about 2010, perhaps 2005.”

    In most cases it moves faster than that.

    Petain was still perfectly lucid in 1940, decidedly geriatric by 1945.

  391. @Mike Tre
    @Steve Sailer

    There are lots of theories presented in yo9ur comment section, some more insane than others. The question is why do you care about this one so much?

    Your "kind efforts" have been nothing more than snarky and mocking one liners. Take a bow!

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    The question is why do you care about this one so much?

    Exactly. Lots of commentators have wackyg or tenuous theories here, but this one seems to have really gotten to our Blog Master.

  392. @Steve Sailer
    @R.G. Camara

    iSteve commenter Art Deco is not Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg.

    You aren't a terrible commenter, so I've been trying to wean you off this insane delusion for years, but I'm getting tired of my kind efforts not bearing fruit.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Gordo, @Colin Wright, @Jack D, @Corvinus, @J.Ross, @R.G. Camara

    If you want me to stop mentioning it, fine. It won’t stop it being true, though. It seems obvious to me. After all, who threatens a random commentators with defamation because he calls a specific neocon a warmongering war criminal and traitor?

    Lots of people here say similar (and true) things about various public figures and neocon types. Only Art Deco took such personal offense when I called Jeffrey Goldberg a war mongering war criminal and traitor. Went ape on my for it, wished for the right to sue me. The only people who would react so personally would be Jeffrey Goldberg himself or someone close to him; no one else would care that much. Plus Art Deco’s world view is consistently beltway neocon, just like Goldberg, the IDF goon. So, therefore, Art Deco is very likely the man himself, or someone close to him. QED.

    And that brings up another question: why do you care so much? Your commentators make lots of bold assertions and insults about public figures all the time. My harping on it is annoying, of course, if you don’t agree, but you could just ignore, as you ignore so many other comments here. Its puzzling why my little conspiracy theory and tit-for-tat with him draws your ire.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @R.G. Camara

    A. You have a bunch of good things to say (e.g., your new comment about Biden's dementia and his IQ), but you have a problem getting hung up on a few idee fixes that make you look silly, so you'd be better off if you learned to control this tendency.

    B. I'm against commenters accurately doxing other commenters, so I try to discourage it by scoffing at the craziest attempt at doxing.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  393. @James B. Shearer
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    "I’m guessing he first had minor touches of it since about 2010, perhaps 2005."

    In most cases it moves faster than that.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @R.G. Camara, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Biden’s dementia was likely saved from earlier discovery by his relative-low-IQ for a senator. I’ve often pointed out that Biden is very insecure about his intelligence level; while he was never dumb (likely a 115-120 IQ), at his level of Senator/VP/Pres he was likely never the smartest person in the room (they all have 125-130 IQs).

    What’s more, Biden knew that, and so was many times trying to prove himself smart and threatening those who seemed to question his brains— hence his famous gaffe yelling at a guy in a crowd and claiming that “I have a higher IQ than you”. Of course, this insecurity led Biden to many other gaffes where his try-to-look-smart schtick backfired and made him look stupid. Fredo, in a sense.

    So when he started to get dementia people just thought it was his gaffes coming back. Contrast that with Clinton or Obama or Romney, whom a dementia bout coming on would noticeably change their behavior.

    In short, Biden’s dementia went undiagnosed because his stupidity was considered normal behavior for him.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @R.G. Camara

    "In short, Biden’s dementia went undiagnosed because his stupidity was considered normal behavior for him."

    If Biden had dementia in 2005 , diagnosed or not, it would probably have killed him by now. It is difficult to make definite statements because dementia is a symptom of many different diseases with different prognosis. However the most common cause Alzheimers will generally kill you in 8-10 years. See here .

    , @Mike Tre
    @R.G. Camara

    I think 115 is being generous in his case. Either way, if the guy actually took the time to inform himself adequately about the most important issues, it would have helped him come across more intelligent.

    But like most career politicians, he was inherently lazy.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  394. @R.G. Camara
    @Steve Sailer

    If you want me to stop mentioning it, fine. It won't stop it being true, though. It seems obvious to me. After all, who threatens a random commentators with defamation because he calls a specific neocon a warmongering war criminal and traitor?

    Lots of people here say similar (and true) things about various public figures and neocon types. Only Art Deco took such personal offense when I called Jeffrey Goldberg a war mongering war criminal and traitor. Went ape on my for it, wished for the right to sue me. The only people who would react so personally would be Jeffrey Goldberg himself or someone close to him; no one else would care that much. Plus Art Deco's world view is consistently beltway neocon, just like Goldberg, the IDF goon. So, therefore, Art Deco is very likely the man himself, or someone close to him. QED.

    And that brings up another question: why do you care so much? Your commentators make lots of bold assertions and insults about public figures all the time. My harping on it is annoying, of course, if you don't agree, but you could just ignore, as you ignore so many other comments here. Its puzzling why my little conspiracy theory and tit-for-tat with him draws your ire.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    A. You have a bunch of good things to say (e.g., your new comment about Biden’s dementia and his IQ), but you have a problem getting hung up on a few idee fixes that make you look silly, so you’d be better off if you learned to control this tendency.

    B. I’m against commenters accurately doxing other commenters, so I try to discourage it by scoffing at the craziest attempt at doxing.

    • Agree: Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    “You have a bunch of good things to say (e.g., your new comment about Biden’s dementia and his IQ),”

    How are you certain of his comment being accurate?

    “but you have a problem getting hung up on a few idee fixes that make you look silly, so you’d be better off if you learned to control this tendency.”

    We all do, including yourself, right?

  395. @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    There's a similar effect of disproportionate representation in entertainment (compounded when they make it big and come down here), but there's also the fact that Canadian Jews are Canadian. One thing you would stereotypically expect of an American Jew is something along the lines of brashness, loudness, tactlessness, merciless honesty, and this is even more so among Israelis of older generations (although younger Israelis are closer to being like Europeans) -- but you would not stereotypically expect this of a Canadian Jew.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    One thing you would stereotypically expect of an American Jew is something along the lines of brashness, loudness, tactlessness, merciless honesty,
    ==
    I gather the list of Jews you’ve met in meatspace begins and ends with Bella Abzug.

  396. @R.G. Camara
    @James B. Shearer

    Biden's dementia was likely saved from earlier discovery by his relative-low-IQ for a senator. I've often pointed out that Biden is very insecure about his intelligence level; while he was never dumb (likely a 115-120 IQ), at his level of Senator/VP/Pres he was likely never the smartest person in the room (they all have 125-130 IQs).

    What's more, Biden knew that, and so was many times trying to prove himself smart and threatening those who seemed to question his brains--- hence his famous gaffe yelling at a guy in a crowd and claiming that "I have a higher IQ than you". Of course, this insecurity led Biden to many other gaffes where his try-to-look-smart schtick backfired and made him look stupid. Fredo, in a sense.

    So when he started to get dementia people just thought it was his gaffes coming back. Contrast that with Clinton or Obama or Romney, whom a dementia bout coming on would noticeably change their behavior.

    In short, Biden's dementia went undiagnosed because his stupidity was considered normal behavior for him.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @Mike Tre

    “In short, Biden’s dementia went undiagnosed because his stupidity was considered normal behavior for him.”

    If Biden had dementia in 2005 , diagnosed or not, it would probably have killed him by now. It is difficult to make definite statements because dementia is a symptom of many different diseases with different prognosis. However the most common cause Alzheimers will generally kill you in 8-10 years. See here .

  397. @R.G. Camara
    @James B. Shearer

    Biden's dementia was likely saved from earlier discovery by his relative-low-IQ for a senator. I've often pointed out that Biden is very insecure about his intelligence level; while he was never dumb (likely a 115-120 IQ), at his level of Senator/VP/Pres he was likely never the smartest person in the room (they all have 125-130 IQs).

    What's more, Biden knew that, and so was many times trying to prove himself smart and threatening those who seemed to question his brains--- hence his famous gaffe yelling at a guy in a crowd and claiming that "I have a higher IQ than you". Of course, this insecurity led Biden to many other gaffes where his try-to-look-smart schtick backfired and made him look stupid. Fredo, in a sense.

    So when he started to get dementia people just thought it was his gaffes coming back. Contrast that with Clinton or Obama or Romney, whom a dementia bout coming on would noticeably change their behavior.

    In short, Biden's dementia went undiagnosed because his stupidity was considered normal behavior for him.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer, @Mike Tre

    I think 115 is being generous in his case. Either way, if the guy actually took the time to inform himself adequately about the most important issues, it would have helped him come across more intelligent.

    But like most career politicians, he was inherently lazy.

    • Agree: mc23
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Mike Tre


    I think 115 is being generous in his case.
     
    Are we talking IQ, or age?
  398. @Steve Sailer
    @R.G. Camara

    A. You have a bunch of good things to say (e.g., your new comment about Biden's dementia and his IQ), but you have a problem getting hung up on a few idee fixes that make you look silly, so you'd be better off if you learned to control this tendency.

    B. I'm against commenters accurately doxing other commenters, so I try to discourage it by scoffing at the craziest attempt at doxing.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “You have a bunch of good things to say (e.g., your new comment about Biden’s dementia and his IQ),”

    How are you certain of his comment being accurate?

    “but you have a problem getting hung up on a few idee fixes that make you look silly, so you’d be better off if you learned to control this tendency.”

    We all do, including yourself, right?

  399. @HA
    @Gandydancer

    "You keep talking about how Russia’s invasion made the (rump) Ukrainian population want to join NATO but don’t show any signs of grasping that Crimea and the Donbas are now part of Russia instead of being a staging are for an anti-Russia cabal and rump Ukraine will probably have to agree to be NATO-free if it is to survive at all. "

    The fanboys are really doubling down on the "Yeah, but what about THAT?" red herrings and deflections and goalpost shifts these days, so let's recap for those whose short-term memories are more functional than yours: Some fanboy upthread claimed that NATO forced Russia to invade (or something like that -- it's not so much that I forgot what he said as much as realized within a sentence or two that it wasn't going to be worth reading any further). Oh yeah, he also wanted me to acknowledge that Putin was a "patriot". (See what I mean about red herrings?)

    I responded that Putin's patriotism is beside the point, and that Russia's approach to getting Ukraine to like it better by pounding it into submission and tearing off chunks is exactly the kind of thing that pushed it towards NATO, and that before that happened, Ukraine had no serious interest in joining. Since you don't even deny that, but would rather move on to other topics -- i.e. hoping to recover with some best 2-out-of-3 extension, I think I made my point well enough.

    As for handwaving about what Ukraine will "probably" have to agree to, spare me. I've been hearing how Ukraine is "probably" two weeks away from outright capitulation for about two years now. The fact that Kyiv is still even in Ukrainian hands after more than two years after even our analysts were saying it would go down in a week or so, is about as improbable as it gets, so doubling down on some scaled down version on what happens now is an implicit admission that things haven't gone according to Putin's plans. And don't forget Finland and Sweden. Russia swiped some territory from the former a while back, too, as you gleefully noted at some point. Well, evidently, the Finns didn't forget. Strange how that works.

    So if NATO is as real threat as was claimed upthread, then the fact that Russia has two new NATO members as next-door neighbors isn't much of a win either, is it? But I get it -- every day, and in every way, things are only looking up for Russia, so let's ignore all that and pretend that everything is working out as planned and that Donbass and Crimea are the real prize in all this. Weird how that works.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    …exactly the kind of thing that pushed it towards NATO, and that before that happened, Ukraine had no serious interest in joining…

    Nonsense. As I said, Ukraine became a NATO adjunct in 2014 and Russia decided that that will not stand, and it won’t.

    Graveyard on your right, keep whistling. It doesn’t matter whether Sweden or Finland are let into NATO, they were already anti-Russian. And, yes the acquisition of Crimea (with its Russian-speaking population and the naval base at Sebastopol ) and the Donbas are real prizes, permanently changed facts on the ground, and it’s silly of you to deny this. But instead you’re still pretending that it’s 2022 and that nothing has changed about the inadequacy of the Russia invasion force, I of course have never said that everything went according to plan or expressed any interest in Putin’s patriotism, but you WILL fight your straw men, won’t you?

    • Replies: @HA
    @Gandydancer

    "Nonsense. As I said, Ukraine became a NATO adjunct in 2014 ..."

    It still had no interest in joining prior to Putin's landgrabs. Sweden and Finland became official "partners" of NATO in 1994, some two decades earlier than Ukraine's adjunct status, whatever that means. But until they themselves decided to take the next step (again, that doesn't happen without a popular mandate, which, again, didn't exist in Ukraine prior to the swipe of Crimea and Donbass), Finland and Sweden could have continued to stay aloof for pretty much forever.

    But that wasn't enough for Putin, was it?, and so here he is with two more NATO neighbors.

    So yeah, cry all you want about NATO aggression and how Russia is winning, but anyone who's paying attention knows who's talking nonsense.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

  400. @Jack D
    @Gandydancer


    that it made Russia’s geopolitical position worse is a fantasy.
     
    Was the USSR's geopolitical position in the Baltics "better" in 1945 than it had been in 1939? Yes, but these gains were temporary. Not only were the Russians pushed out of the Baltics in the long run but they are going to be hated there for centuries. Come back in 50 years and we'll know whether the gains in Ukraine were permanent or not. It's way too soon to say.

    They could even be like the German gains in Europe after 1939 - gone within a handful of years. The USSR, for all of its faults, had a unifying ideology. a collective leadership and a lot of stability so they were able to keep their WWII gains for almost 50 years.

    Putin's regime has none of these features. They are just a mafia state. Will Putinism survive Putin? Even putting aside his foreign adventures, Putin is sitting on a demographic and economic pressure cooker. He is strong enough to keep the lid on, but will his successors be strong enough?

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    Strong enough to prevent what? Dissolution of Russia (including Crimea and the Donbas)? No sign of that. Nothing is permanent, but the Russian gains in this war are likely to be as permanent as any border on the planet. The population of the Baltics were not Russian, but the reacquired/acquired territories are different in that respect. When will Poland’s lost territories be reacquired from Ukraine? Well, maybe a Ukrainian collapse will change things, but it looks pretty permanent for now. As do Poland’s acquisitions from Germany. The only question currently open is how soon Ukraine will cut a deal and how bad it will be for the current regime in Kyiv if it survives at all.

    Well, there’s also the question of whether lunatics like Macron will start WW3, but that’s a different type of subject.

  401. @John Johnson
    @Gandydancer

    Told you so. From the second I saw the reaction to the debate. As I said I sure hoped the (D)s would stick with Biden, but didn’t think even they would be that dumb. Now it’s Kamela or bust.

    It is not Kamela or bust at this point.

    She still has to get through a brokered convention.

    The Democrats know that she is terrible and as such it's too early to state if they will back her.

    If they back her it will be an AA move and everyone knows it. She has somehow bombed being VP which really takes a lack of talent. It's mostly a superficial position.

    The safer move is to back a moderate that is separate from Biden.

    I thought the (D)s were too repulsive in 2020 to win despite Trump being such weak sauce, but I was wrong about that. It WAS close enough to steal, which was inexcusable.

    Well exit polls showed that Trump lost independents, White women and blue collar voters that crossed lines.

    He has not gained those White women back which means he will have to do better with another group.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    It’s Kamela or bust. The (D)s can’t afford for blacks to stay home, and their pathological worship of blacks as a victim group prohibits replacing her anyway. The people brokering the convention know this perfectly well so the brokering will be in her favor. The only remaining question is how long it will take them to extract the Presidency from Biden’s palsied but determined grip to transfer it to her.

    Harris has been a zero as VP, so non-political-junkies don’t really have an opinion on her. The (D)s will have the media and money and they’ll be able to fill the vacancy pretty much as well as they did with Biden, who was also a zero despite a long career representing credit card companies and engaging in other corruption.

    Trump has gained everywhere and the Dems have lost everywhere. I can’t imagine how you have missed this. So Kemela should lose. But there are NO alternatives.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Gandydancer

    It’s Kamela or bust. The (D)s can’t afford for blacks to stay home, and their pathological worship of blacks as a victim group prohibits replacing her anyway.

    As with the MSM you're not looking at the data and just assuming she pulls Blacks like Obama. Blacks normally vote for the Democrat and are concentrated in safe states. The numbers barely change over Biden.

    It comes down to the swing states and she isn't favored in ONE of them:
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/22/harris-trump-swing-state-polls/74500198007/

    Trump has gained everywhere and the Dems have lost everywhere. I can’t imagine how you have missed this. So Kemela should lose. But there are NO alternatives.

    Harris is a terrible candidate and there are plenty of alternatives.

    You don't run a candidate that has an unfavorable rating by independents in swing states.

    If they go with Harris then it will be a triumph of White guilt brain rot over numbers.

    Replies: @Manfred Arcane, @James B. Shearer

  402. @Mr. Anon
    @Gandydancer

    Wow, that escalated quickly, didn't it?

    Now - per you - and simply because I called out your bulls**t "impression", I am some kind of goose-stepping, brown-shirted Sturmbahnfueher.

    Par for the course for you guys. You're either with us, or you're Hitler. We're all just latent storm troopers as far as you're concerned, aren't we?

    Well, F**k you right back, pal.

    By the way "Gandydancer" is a faggy screen name.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    Wow, that escalated quickly, didn’t it?

    Yeah, you did. Why you thought you could write “you are either not very observant or you are just lying” without an appropriate response I cannot imagine.

    Your cowardly, faggoty, and determinedly unmemorable screen name (quite unlike that of the work gangs who built the railroads – your ignorance is showing) means that I don’t associate you with anything you’ve barfed up before now but as to your being pro-Nazi your sensitivity about the alleged but non-existent increase in calling WW2 Germans “Nazi”, and your complaint that the Commies are less demonized, speaks for itself. Those poor Nazis, so unfairly treated, eh?

    Fuck you, squared. With a steel toilet brush

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Gandydancer

    Communists quite clearly are less demonized.

    And your "impressions" are just ethnically self-interested pleading.

    You are a peddler of lies. I cordially invite you to go f**k yourself, Mr. Pansydancer.

  403. @Colin Wright
    @Gandydancer


    'I’m not very familiar with Judaism, but this locution seemed a bit odd. As best I can determine calling a person a “shabbos” makes no sense.'
     
    Shabbos goy, then. As in you are a shabbos goy.

    ...or just lying. One of the two. Maybe it's like JackD being a farm boy.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    LOL! Why would I lie about not knowing what calling a person ~”a sabbath” means? Especially since it turns out that you had no more idea what you were saying than I did.

  404. @Gandydancer
    @Reg Cæsar


    ... electing him to the Vice Presidency, we have elected him to the Presidency.
     
    That's an absurd take. Again, the Constitution says, "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice", and no, being elected to a different office, namely Vice President, is clearly not the same as being elected to the Presidency. Try so veto a bill or sign one and you'll quickly discover the difference. The language is perfectly clear with no ambiguity whatsoever. If you don't like it the path of again amending the Constitution is open to you, but not liking what it says is no excuse for inserting meanings that aren't there. That way lies Roe v Wade.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    being elected to a different office, namely Vice President, is clearly not the same as being elected to the Presidency

    Article II, Section 1 says the President is elected “together with the Vice-President”. Later, it goes on

    In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the Same shall devolve on the Vice President…

    Filling in for the defunct President is the designated duty of the Vice President. Part of his office.

    The language is perfectly clear with no ambiguity whatsoever.

    So is the fugitive slave clause; a “person held to service… shall be delivered up on claim of the party…” No period within which this is to be done is specified. Can you imagine what fun an abolitionist state could have had with that– and how John C Calhoun would have answered?

    What you are saying is that the amendment doesn’t really exist. The authors were fine with a President-for-Life, just make him go through the servants’ entrance the third, fourth, fifth, etc., time? And they were shrewd enough to get this ruse past both houses of Congress and 71 chambers in 36 states?

    You’re calling my take “absurd”?

    What evidence do you have that this was the intention of those who wrote the amendment? House Joint Resolution 27 of 1947, passed by 238 FDR-weary Republicans (and 47 Democrats), was sent to the Senate Judiciary Committee, who amended it to read:

    A person who has held the office of President or acted as President on three hundred and sixty-five calendar days or more in each of two terms shall not be eligible to hold the office of President, or to act as President, for any part of another term…

    https://blogs.loc.gov/law/2017/02/ratification-anniversary/

    The House pulled one over on the Senate? Congress on the states? The states on their own citizens? Helluva conspiracy theory! Were those 238 Republicans fools, or knaves?

    That way lies Roe v Wade.

    And your way lie Tito, Sukarno, Marcos, the Duvaliers, and Jean-Bédel Bokassa.

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Reg Cæsar

    Don't try to put words in my mouth. No, of course it wasn't a conspiracy. That their wording of the relevant Amendment allowed someone to evade the term limit provision by being elected to a different office in the line of succession (not just the VP) to the Presidency never occurred to them. It is nonetheless not the proper function of the courts, and an illegitimate seizure of power by them, to decide what the framers meant to do and effectively insert its own language into the Amendment to supplement its actual plain language. If the Constitution is flawed there Amendment process is available to fix it. And if no such Amendment is passed such a President could be impeached for doing it. It's not a crime but Congress can nonetheless consider it a high crime and misdemeanor.

    I'm not clear what conclusion you want me to conclude from the general non-enforcement of the fugitive slave clause. Yes, States behaved unconstitutionally in not enforcing it. Yes, enforcing it was to a large extent contrary to the actual balance of forces in existence and suffered from practical difficulties. The "Calhoun" problem you seem to be imagining is not one of them since if he were to demand the extradition of non-slaves (was that it?) such demands or resistance to them would properly be subject to adjudication. None of this has anything to do with the Presidential term limit provision.

  405. @Mike Tre
    @R.G. Camara

    I think 115 is being generous in his case. Either way, if the guy actually took the time to inform himself adequately about the most important issues, it would have helped him come across more intelligent.

    But like most career politicians, he was inherently lazy.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I think 115 is being generous in his case.

    Are we talking IQ, or age?

  406. @Jack D
    @Frau Katze

    The whole " the Jews want drown the Goyim with immigrants" premise espoused by the anti-Semitic Men of Unz is idiotic, but your experience in BC is not typical.

    In metro Toronto for example, there are almost 200,000 Jews and a thriving Jewish community. Several, in fact. You have your semi-secular Ashkenazi Jews, the Orthodox, the Sephardic Moroccan Jews, etc. each with their own schools and institutions, etc. Unlike American cities, the ethnic communities of Toronto were not driven out of the city by violent crime and so it retains many of its traditional ethnic neighborhoods including the Jewish areas. In some ways, the Jewish communal life of Toronto is more intact and less atomized than in the US. The push to suburbia really destroyed a lot of ethnic culture in America and scrambled the omelet far more than in the old city centers. So I'm pretty sure that anyone living in Toronto meets Jews on a more than once every few years basis.

    Montreal also retains a large Jewish community. Even Vancouver has something like 20,000 Jews so you have probably met some, but not having the highly attuned Jewdar of the Men of Unz you might not have even noticed. Jenner could give you some Jew spotting lessons that he picked up from his old German friends.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Reg Cæsar

    Montreal also retains a large Jewish community.

    Duddy Kravitz!

    My train car to Montreal carried a large family of Hasidim, all yakking in French. Well, joual.

    This clearly doesn’t apply to all of them:

    Deprived of a secular education, former Hasidic man takes on the Quebec government

    Salad bowl, indeed.

  407. @HA
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    "To those of us who grew up reading real writers like Christgau and Lester Bangs, “fanboys” is just too d@mn *lazy*."

    And yet, despite having that "Ignore commentator" button right there a click or two away, you and your fellow fanboys continue to repeatedly subject yourselves to pages and pages of my torturous pushback. What does that say about all of you? As for me, yeah, I sure must be "lazy" to be replying as much as I do -- you really got me figured out, don't you?

    And don't kid yourself. Given the hackneyed troll drivel I'm responding to, I give far better than I receive in terms of quality. You think you're the Algonquin Round Table? Think again.

    When it comes to you specifically, if you don't like my output, consider the possibility that your own drunken ramblings and thinly veiled cries of desperation (not to mention weird and creepy PJ Harvey fetishes -- I mean, seriously?) deserve no more than the response they elicit from me, which is typically silence and a reflexive urge to look away in second-hand embarrassment. Any time I'm tempted to be more harsh and dismissive, abject pity at the sight of the train wreck I'm witnessing blunts my response. I'm genuinely sorry the sobriety thing is not working out better, and hope you'll have more success with that down the line, but for now, just so as to avoid any regret on my part later on, I'll tell you this: whatever depths you continue to wallow in, in the misplaced hope that someone will find it entertaining, suicide is not the answer, regardless of whether it's slow, or else painfully drawn out. Consider yourself cautioned.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Well if nothing else I have to greet you courteously for making something like a thoughtful reply. That’s kind of rare here on the inter-tubes: the fact that you did something more gracious than a swish-pan insult is kind of nice, really.

    “He cannot by the duello avoid it” — Twelfth Night

    But yet, off we go… more matter on a May morning.

    “despite having that “Ignore commentator” button right there a click or two away, you and your fellow fanboys continue to repeatedly subject yourselves to pages and pages of my torturous pushback. What does that say about all of you?”

    Can’t speak for the rest of ’em, but I come from an old newspaper-readin’ family: four different papers a day, in my house. Delivered ’em hot off the presses, door to door, 5 o’clock in the morning, in buildings where there were no elevators, good aerobic workout. The real pros start from the back and read the sports pages first, then the classifieds and want-ads, then the funnies, and finally make it to the editorial page, when we’re just about ready to spit.

    I always started with the funnies page (don’t care about sports): and you always read straight from top to bottom, don’t skip a thing, all the way from “Broom-Hilda” and “Blondie” down through “Mary Worth,” “Dondi” and “Dick Tracy,” and then you go searching for where they hid the Jumble and Ching Chow.

    My point being, if I read your stuff, don’t take it for too much. If it means anything, sometimes you are good for a better chuckle than “Catfish.” Sergeant Snorkle, not so much.

    But the whole suicide thing… please don’t bring that up, there’s simply too much suicide and craziness in my family for blogsters to make light of it. (THE PHILADELPHIA STORY: — Does madness run in her family? — Madame, it gallops.”) Unless you want some guy named Red to show up unexpectedly on your doorstep at 5 AM with a grim look on his face. How on earth did he find you, anyway? Like I say, don’t f#ck with people who know a lot of people.

    • Replies: @HA
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    "But the whole suicide thing… please don’t bring that up, there’s simply too much suicide and craziness in my family for blogsters to make light of it."

    How could anyone read what I wrote and assume I'm making light of suicide? The fact that I took it seriously was the very reason I even responded, as I clearly stipulated.

    Again, be it sudden (I garbled that the first time, and it is to correct that slip of the keyboard that I respond now) or agonizingly drawn out, it's the wrong choice. There, is that clearer? And what's more, it is not nearly as entertainingly tragic (or any other kind of entertaining) as I suspect you sometimes think it is, and the same goes for your other self-destructive cries for attention. If you're brainless enough to ignore what I say (and claiming I am making light of anything right now is brainless indeed) I can't do anything about it except to clearly demonstrate -- as I just have -- that I was consistently on the side of those telling you to step away from the brink.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @The Germ Theory of Disease

  408. @Gandydancer
    @Mr. Anon


    Wow, that escalated quickly, didn’t it?
     
    Yeah, you did. Why you thought you could write "you are either not very observant or you are just lying" without an appropriate response I cannot imagine.

    Your cowardly, faggoty, and determinedly unmemorable screen name (quite unlike that of the work gangs who built the railroads - your ignorance is showing) means that I don't associate you with anything you've barfed up before now but as to your being pro-Nazi your sensitivity about the alleged but non-existent increase in calling WW2 Germans "Nazi", and your complaint that the Commies are less demonized, speaks for itself. Those poor Nazis, so unfairly treated, eh?

    Fuck you, squared. With a steel toilet brush

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Communists quite clearly are less demonized.

    And your “impressions” are just ethnically self-interested pleading.

    You are a peddler of lies. I cordially invite you to go f**k yourself, Mr. Pansydancer.

  409. HA says:
    @Gandydancer
    @HA


    ...exactly the kind of thing that pushed it towards NATO, and that before that happened, Ukraine had no serious interest in joining...
     
    Nonsense. As I said, Ukraine became a NATO adjunct in 2014 and Russia decided that that will not stand, and it won't.

    Graveyard on your right, keep whistling. It doesn't matter whether Sweden or Finland are let into NATO, they were already anti-Russian. And, yes the acquisition of Crimea (with its Russian-speaking population and the naval base at Sebastopol ) and the Donbas are real prizes, permanently changed facts on the ground, and it's silly of you to deny this. But instead you're still pretending that it's 2022 and that nothing has changed about the inadequacy of the Russia invasion force, I of course have never said that everything went according to plan or expressed any interest in Putin's patriotism, but you WILL fight your straw men, won't you?

    Replies: @HA

    “Nonsense. As I said, Ukraine became a NATO adjunct in 2014 …”

    It still had no interest in joining prior to Putin’s landgrabs. Sweden and Finland became official “partners” of NATO in 1994, some two decades earlier than Ukraine’s adjunct status, whatever that means. But until they themselves decided to take the next step (again, that doesn’t happen without a popular mandate, which, again, didn’t exist in Ukraine prior to the swipe of Crimea and Donbass), Finland and Sweden could have continued to stay aloof for pretty much forever.

    But that wasn’t enough for Putin, was it?, and so here he is with two more NATO neighbors.

    So yeah, cry all you want about NATO aggression and how Russia is winning, but anyone who’s paying attention knows who’s talking nonsense.

    • Replies: @Gandydancer
    @HA


    Sweden and Finland became official “partners” of NATO in 1994, some two decades earlier than Ukraine’s adjunct status, whatever that means.
     
    So, you're effectively admitting what I said:

    It doesn’t matter whether Sweden or Finland are let into NATO, they were already anti-Russian.
     
    As to what "adjunct" means, it means, for example, this:

    For example, in 2016 the CIA assisted Ukraine in forming Unit 2245, an intelligence gathering team that went out and captured Russian military equipment and weapons for examination to discover how they operated and what vulnerabilities could be exploited. /
    By the time Russia invaded Ukraine in early 2022 there were a dozen CIA/Ukraine monitoring stations along the Russian border
     
    It mattered hardly at all whether Sweden and Finland formally joined NATO if they were already working with NATO, and your continued insistence that their joining formally is a great loss for Russia if they do is nonsensical. Ukraine will not, however, continue to function as a NATO asset. I care not at all whether you continue to deny this reality. It's reality just the same.
  410. HA says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @HA

    Well if nothing else I have to greet you courteously for making something like a thoughtful reply. That's kind of rare here on the inter-tubes: the fact that you did something more gracious than a swish-pan insult is kind of nice, really.

    "He cannot by the duello avoid it" -- Twelfth Night

    But yet, off we go... more matter on a May morning.

    "despite having that “Ignore commentator” button right there a click or two away, you and your fellow fanboys continue to repeatedly subject yourselves to pages and pages of my torturous pushback. What does that say about all of you?"

    Can't speak for the rest of 'em, but I come from an old newspaper-readin' family: four different papers a day, in my house. Delivered 'em hot off the presses, door to door, 5 o'clock in the morning, in buildings where there were no elevators, good aerobic workout. The real pros start from the back and read the sports pages first, then the classifieds and want-ads, then the funnies, and finally make it to the editorial page, when we're just about ready to spit.

    I always started with the funnies page (don't care about sports): and you always read straight from top to bottom, don't skip a thing, all the way from "Broom-Hilda" and "Blondie" down through "Mary Worth," "Dondi" and "Dick Tracy," and then you go searching for where they hid the Jumble and Ching Chow.

    My point being, if I read your stuff, don't take it for too much. If it means anything, sometimes you are good for a better chuckle than "Catfish." Sergeant Snorkle, not so much.

    But the whole suicide thing... please don't bring that up, there's simply too much suicide and craziness in my family for blogsters to make light of it. (THE PHILADELPHIA STORY: -- Does madness run in her family? -- Madame, it gallops.") Unless you want some guy named Red to show up unexpectedly on your doorstep at 5 AM with a grim look on his face. How on earth did he find you, anyway? Like I say, don't f#ck with people who know a lot of people.

    Replies: @HA

    “But the whole suicide thing… please don’t bring that up, there’s simply too much suicide and craziness in my family for blogsters to make light of it.”

    How could anyone read what I wrote and assume I’m making light of suicide? The fact that I took it seriously was the very reason I even responded, as I clearly stipulated.

    Again, be it sudden (I garbled that the first time, and it is to correct that slip of the keyboard that I respond now) or agonizingly drawn out, it’s the wrong choice. There, is that clearer? And what’s more, it is not nearly as entertainingly tragic (or any other kind of entertaining) as I suspect you sometimes think it is, and the same goes for your other self-destructive cries for attention. If you’re brainless enough to ignore what I say (and claiming I am making light of anything right now is brainless indeed) I can’t do anything about it except to clearly demonstrate — as I just have — that I was consistently on the side of those telling you to step away from the brink.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @HA

    Hmm, go figure. I tried to make nice. But, guess we need a "WOW, WHAT AN ASSHOLE" button.

    Replies: @HA

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @HA

    Back in the business -- once you're in the game, there is Rule One: you can't try to knock another guy's pitch, unless you have a better pitch yourself. The room will judge. You were trying to counsel me but also sneer at me at the same time: that's kind of Bad Voodoo. Rule Two is, don't try to beat Rule One.

    Well, whaddaya gonna do. As Beckett once said, You're on earth, and there's no cure for that!

  411. @John Johnson
    @OilcanFloyd

    Limbaugh was such a fraud, as is Hannity. God only knows what someone like Epstein had on him.

    Are you kidding me? You think a Con Inc scumster like Limbaugh needs an Epstein to blackmail him?

    You should really spend more time around conservative Whites if you think Limbaugh is some anomaly. It's a common belief among upper class Whites that the masses need to be told fibs about the economy.

    I used to hang around a GOP activist and he would readily admit in private that they had to lie about race. They need Limbaughs to keep the White workers into believing that "minimal government" is everything and race is just paint color. I would point out that he didn't like how liberals lied to students and he would agree. But that's different because they're evil. The message was that our lies are better.

    I've had Con Inc supporters even at Unz fully admit that Hannity and Limbaugh types can't be honest about race. They fear a breakdown of society if Whites learn the truth. Why give tax breaks to the wealthy if economic standards have more to do with race? Why serve the best interest of the wealthy? They DO NOT want Whites going down that path. Better to have "Football Sundays" and keep Whites thinking that Haiti just needs some tax breaks and charter schools.

    Con Inc is an alliance of Whites that supports lying to other Whites. I find it to be morally disgusting but in their minds it's for the best. They believe pretty lies have to exist to stop the really bad lies of liberalism.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @OilcanFloyd

    Well that’s good to hear. Was starting to think you were a pro-Limbaugh supporter type. As to the rest your ideas regarding lies have to be told to the masses regarding race…

    “When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.”–John Ford

    “Truth is so precious that it must be surrounded by a wall of lies”–(attributed to) Winston Churchill

    It is the LEGEND, that helps to preserve the system itself, and once the full unvarnished naked truth is finally exposed to all to see and can’t be denied, that’s when the fun will begin. When the masses finally and fully figure out that they’ve been lied to then the fun will begin.

    Party like its 1789 (in Paris).

  412. @James B. Shearer
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    "I’m guessing he first had minor touches of it since about 2010, perhaps 2005."

    In most cases it moves faster than that.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @R.G. Camara, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Actually, there is no full understanding of how dementia arises, and how long it takes. It is a gradual process. One can have dementia for a few decades before it “suddenly become” full on obvious. I know this, because that’s what i was told when taking care of someone with it.

    Oh, and as of 2024, there is no 100% cure for it. AND, we are nowhere closer to understanding the illness now than we were 30 yrs ago. Again, from those medical experts who were looking after the person I was assisting.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    "...One can have dementia for a few decades before it “suddenly become” full on obvious. ..."

    This would be very rare. There may be people who can be identified as being at greater risk for eventually developing dementia but that isn't the same thing as currently having dementia.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  413. @John Johnson
    @OilcanFloyd

    Limbaugh was such a fraud, as is Hannity. God only knows what someone like Epstein had on him.

    Are you kidding me? You think a Con Inc scumster like Limbaugh needs an Epstein to blackmail him?

    You should really spend more time around conservative Whites if you think Limbaugh is some anomaly. It's a common belief among upper class Whites that the masses need to be told fibs about the economy.

    I used to hang around a GOP activist and he would readily admit in private that they had to lie about race. They need Limbaughs to keep the White workers into believing that "minimal government" is everything and race is just paint color. I would point out that he didn't like how liberals lied to students and he would agree. But that's different because they're evil. The message was that our lies are better.

    I've had Con Inc supporters even at Unz fully admit that Hannity and Limbaugh types can't be honest about race. They fear a breakdown of society if Whites learn the truth. Why give tax breaks to the wealthy if economic standards have more to do with race? Why serve the best interest of the wealthy? They DO NOT want Whites going down that path. Better to have "Football Sundays" and keep Whites thinking that Haiti just needs some tax breaks and charter schools.

    Con Inc is an alliance of Whites that supports lying to other Whites. I find it to be morally disgusting but in their minds it's for the best. They believe pretty lies have to exist to stop the really bad lies of liberalism.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @OilcanFloyd

    “You think a Con Inc scumster like Limbaugh needs an Epstein to blackmail him?”

    Uh, yes. Yes I do actually. Not “needs”, but more in the way of absolute power corrupts absolutely type of thing (or absolute influence). I think over time, Rush began to really believe that he was the Rush Limbaugh image that he presented to his audience. Also, as he was part of the top 1%, Rush moved in similar circles as those that would’ve personally known Epstein. If one amasses that amount of wealth and no real connection to a community or a family, then one can:

    #1. Become more altruistic–invest in various causes or charities. (give outwardly to others)

    #2. Become more selfish–invest in oneself (focus inwardly on one’s self and that quite selfishly)

    And Rush chose to do #2

    I’m still surprised that no indepth biography has been written about him, I mean, a tell all things behind the scenes that would shock his audience biography, not a fawning hagiography.

    His third wife could certainly write one, as he’s passed and she can’t be sued now.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Uh, yes. Yes I do actually. Not “needs”, but more in the way of absolute power corrupts absolutely type of thing (or absolute influence). I think over time, Rush began to really believe that he was the Rush Limbaugh image that he presented to his audience.

    Rush started off as some small time radio troll. Just watch the old videos of him on youtube. A natural snake oil salesmen that just as easily could have ended up selling timeshares.

    No one forced him into pushing Con Inc theories. No one forced him to bank millions and live in a wealthy liberal neighborhood with his cat. This "family values" conservative didn't have ANY children.

    As soon as he had millions in the bank he could have done an unfiltered radio show. He could have stopped lying about race and minimal government as a cure-all to human evolution.

    What you don't want to face is that we have Whites like Limbaugh and Hannity that don't want the full truth to be revealed. They want their own world of half-truths. A feel-good conservative all American world where liberalism doesn't exist and neither does Unz.

    If race is real then most of Con Inc falls apart. Suddenly it's not the "teacher's unions" that cause underperforming schools. Then that leads to honest discussions on unions and if they really can boost middle class wages. Con Inc talking heads DO NOT want that conversation to occur. They want conservative Whites to go to bed thinking "Da unions bad" and having dreams in Leave it to Bantu.

    I really doubt you have been around that many conservative Whites. They tend to have a denigrating view of the working class and view them as little people that need to be kept on the right track. Conservatives are just as afraid as liberals of the White working class finding their own Hitler. Conservatives want them in church and praying away the gay or for Haiti to find Christ. I think you would be surprised by how many Christian conservatives behind the scenes view the working class as a rabble of children that needs constant management to prevent them from harming themselves. These conservatives are horrified by the idea of discussing something like evolution and the implications for modern society.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  414. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @James B. Shearer

    Actually, there is no full understanding of how dementia arises, and how long it takes. It is a gradual process. One can have dementia for a few decades before it "suddenly become" full on obvious. I know this, because that's what i was told when taking care of someone with it.

    Oh, and as of 2024, there is no 100% cure for it. AND, we are nowhere closer to understanding the illness now than we were 30 yrs ago. Again, from those medical experts who were looking after the person I was assisting.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    “…One can have dementia for a few decades before it “suddenly become” full on obvious. …”

    This would be very rare. There may be people who can be identified as being at greater risk for eventually developing dementia but that isn’t the same thing as currently having dementia.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @James B. Shearer

    "This would be very rare. There may be people who can be identified as being at greater risk for eventually developing dementia but that isn’t the same thing as currently having dementia."

    Well, the interesting and rather rare case with Biden is that he was a despicable, ignorant, stupid buffoon long before he began exhibiting signs of clinical dementia, which he also now has. But he was organically stupid way, waaay before he was medically stupid. I mean, this guy made George W Bush look smart by comparison. It was almost like a learned disability.

    How often do you see that happen? I mean you see it all the time, in real life -- but how often do you get that in public office?

  415. @HA
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    "But the whole suicide thing… please don’t bring that up, there’s simply too much suicide and craziness in my family for blogsters to make light of it."

    How could anyone read what I wrote and assume I'm making light of suicide? The fact that I took it seriously was the very reason I even responded, as I clearly stipulated.

    Again, be it sudden (I garbled that the first time, and it is to correct that slip of the keyboard that I respond now) or agonizingly drawn out, it's the wrong choice. There, is that clearer? And what's more, it is not nearly as entertainingly tragic (or any other kind of entertaining) as I suspect you sometimes think it is, and the same goes for your other self-destructive cries for attention. If you're brainless enough to ignore what I say (and claiming I am making light of anything right now is brainless indeed) I can't do anything about it except to clearly demonstrate -- as I just have -- that I was consistently on the side of those telling you to step away from the brink.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Hmm, go figure. I tried to make nice. But, guess we need a “WOW, WHAT AN ASSHOLE” button.

    • LOL: Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    • Replies: @HA
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    People who pretend to make nice to me don't accuse me of making light of their clinical pathologies. That's uncalled for and it's not how I roll. (Whereas making light of someone's clinically pathological fanboy propaganda is something I will cheerfully plead guilty to.)

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

  416. @James B. Shearer
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    "...One can have dementia for a few decades before it “suddenly become” full on obvious. ..."

    This would be very rare. There may be people who can be identified as being at greater risk for eventually developing dementia but that isn't the same thing as currently having dementia.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “This would be very rare. There may be people who can be identified as being at greater risk for eventually developing dementia but that isn’t the same thing as currently having dementia.”

    Well, the interesting and rather rare case with Biden is that he was a despicable, ignorant, stupid buffoon long before he began exhibiting signs of clinical dementia, which he also now has. But he was organically stupid way, waaay before he was medically stupid. I mean, this guy made George W Bush look smart by comparison. It was almost like a learned disability.

    How often do you see that happen? I mean you see it all the time, in real life — but how often do you get that in public office?

  417. @Gandydancer
    @John Johnson

    It's Kamela or bust. The (D)s can't afford for blacks to stay home, and their pathological worship of blacks as a victim group prohibits replacing her anyway. The people brokering the convention know this perfectly well so the brokering will be in her favor. The only remaining question is how long it will take them to extract the Presidency from Biden's palsied but determined grip to transfer it to her.

    Harris has been a zero as VP, so non-political-junkies don't really have an opinion on her. The (D)s will have the media and money and they'll be able to fill the vacancy pretty much as well as they did with Biden, who was also a zero despite a long career representing credit card companies and engaging in other corruption.

    Trump has gained everywhere and the Dems have lost everywhere. I can't imagine how you have missed this. So Kemela should lose. But there are NO alternatives.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    It’s Kamela or bust. The (D)s can’t afford for blacks to stay home, and their pathological worship of blacks as a victim group prohibits replacing her anyway.

    As with the MSM you’re not looking at the data and just assuming she pulls Blacks like Obama. Blacks normally vote for the Democrat and are concentrated in safe states. The numbers barely change over Biden.

    It comes down to the swing states and she isn’t favored in ONE of them:
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/22/harris-trump-swing-state-polls/74500198007/

    Trump has gained everywhere and the Dems have lost everywhere. I can’t imagine how you have missed this. So Kemela should lose. But there are NO alternatives.

    Harris is a terrible candidate and there are plenty of alternatives.

    You don’t run a candidate that has an unfavorable rating by independents in swing states.

    If they go with Harris then it will be a triumph of White guilt brain rot over numbers.

    • Replies: @Manfred Arcane
    @John Johnson

    Or, possibly, it could be a strategy on the part of the Democratic power brokers: Joe and Kamala are both liabilities, so force one out and then let the other run and lose. This gives the Dems a clean slate for 2028, whereas, if they had run Biden and he had lost, they'd still have Kamala as the heir apparent in 2028. This kills two birds with one stone and allows the real contenders like Newsome to not have to defer to Harris come next election, when they won't be running against Trump and have a better chance of success.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    , @James B. Shearer
    @John Johnson

    "If they go with Harris then it will be a triumph of White guilt brain rot over numbers."

    It will mostly be because they have no obvious alternative and no easy way of getting rid of Harris. The delegates are almost all Biden loyalists and he is telling them to vote for Harris. The Democrats can't afford to get in a huge fight about who their candidate is this close to the election. Harris may not be an ideal candidate but she is their best chance at this point. And they can hope Trump does something really stupid and hands them the election.

    Replies: @John Johnson

  418. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @HA

    Hmm, go figure. I tried to make nice. But, guess we need a "WOW, WHAT AN ASSHOLE" button.

    Replies: @HA

    People who pretend to make nice to me don’t accuse me of making light of their clinical pathologies. That’s uncalled for and it’s not how I roll. (Whereas making light of someone’s clinically pathological fanboy propaganda is something I will cheerfully plead guilty to.)

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @HA

    Wow, thanks again for appearing on "HOLY SHIT, WHO'S A SUPER UNBELIEVABLE INCREDIBLE A$$HOLE?" We thank you for coming, hope to see you again!

    Erin will see you out!

  419. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @John Johnson

    "You think a Con Inc scumster like Limbaugh needs an Epstein to blackmail him?"

    Uh, yes. Yes I do actually. Not "needs", but more in the way of absolute power corrupts absolutely type of thing (or absolute influence). I think over time, Rush began to really believe that he was the Rush Limbaugh image that he presented to his audience. Also, as he was part of the top 1%, Rush moved in similar circles as those that would've personally known Epstein. If one amasses that amount of wealth and no real connection to a community or a family, then one can:

    #1. Become more altruistic--invest in various causes or charities. (give outwardly to others)

    #2. Become more selfish--invest in oneself (focus inwardly on one's self and that quite selfishly)

    And Rush chose to do #2

    I'm still surprised that no indepth biography has been written about him, I mean, a tell all things behind the scenes that would shock his audience biography, not a fawning hagiography.

    His third wife could certainly write one, as he's passed and she can't be sued now.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    Uh, yes. Yes I do actually. Not “needs”, but more in the way of absolute power corrupts absolutely type of thing (or absolute influence). I think over time, Rush began to really believe that he was the Rush Limbaugh image that he presented to his audience.

    Rush started off as some small time radio troll. Just watch the old videos of him on youtube. A natural snake oil salesmen that just as easily could have ended up selling timeshares.

    No one forced him into pushing Con Inc theories. No one forced him to bank millions and live in a wealthy liberal neighborhood with his cat. This “family values” conservative didn’t have ANY children.

    As soon as he had millions in the bank he could have done an unfiltered radio show. He could have stopped lying about race and minimal government as a cure-all to human evolution.

    What you don’t want to face is that we have Whites like Limbaugh and Hannity that don’t want the full truth to be revealed. They want their own world of half-truths. A feel-good conservative all American world where liberalism doesn’t exist and neither does Unz.

    If race is real then most of Con Inc falls apart. Suddenly it’s not the “teacher’s unions” that cause underperforming schools. Then that leads to honest discussions on unions and if they really can boost middle class wages. Con Inc talking heads DO NOT want that conversation to occur. They want conservative Whites to go to bed thinking “Da unions bad” and having dreams in Leave it to Bantu.

    I really doubt you have been around that many conservative Whites. They tend to have a denigrating view of the working class and view them as little people that need to be kept on the right track. Conservatives are just as afraid as liberals of the White working class finding their own Hitler. Conservatives want them in church and praying away the gay or for Haiti to find Christ. I think you would be surprised by how many Christian conservatives behind the scenes view the working class as a rabble of children that needs constant management to prevent them from harming themselves. These conservatives are horrified by the idea of discussing something like evolution and the implications for modern society.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @John Johnson

    "What you don’t want to face is that we have Whites like Limbaugh and Hannity that don’t want the full truth to be revealed. "

    I was actually agreeing with you, and then you went in another direction accusing me of listening to the likes of Hannity.

    What is that quote from that song from back in the day?

    "Now I don't know who the f you think you're talking to, but I'm not him, slim, so watch what you do."

    "They want their own world of half-truths. A feel-good conservative all American world where liberalism doesn’t exist and neither does Unz."

    Uh, yes. For Rush, it was always "Liberals evil and bad, Conservatives (of course he meant the GOP) good."


    "I really doubt you have been around that many conservative Whites. They tend to have a denigrating view of the working class and view them as little people that need to be kept on the right track."

    I really doubt that you're specifically talking to me. Because again, I'm not that person. Just because you were totally incorrect on thinking that Harris won't be her party's official nominee, doesn't mean you don't have interesting takes.

    One of the best obits on Rush was published on Unz, by Andrew Anglin. I suggest that you read it.

    "History will not be kind to Rush Limbaugh"--Andrew Anglin

    Andrew was correct.

  420. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Pro wrestling fans skews more Democrat than all but a few sports, and has the lowest turnout rate

    https://i.postimg.cc/zXHPcdCy/514789beeab8ea4e69000006.webp

    https://www.businessinsider.com/politics-sports-you-like-2013-3

    Replies: @Torna atrás

    South Korea is now comfortably better than Japan as a country

    -South Korea now enjoys a higher gdp per capita (PPP) as of 2019

    -South Korea has a lower cost of living and higher wages

    -Due to the system you can rent for cheap as a low as $500 a month in a 1 bedroom in Gangnam

    -With a better public transport system (Yes Seoul’s is better than Tokyo and cheaper too)

    -People are more open and expressive than Japan(this can be a positive depending on the person). But its easier to make friends

    -Cities are much more vibrant. Seoul for example boasts much more greenspace compared to Tokyo, every apartment complex has a nice area at the bottom for green space and hanging out while Tokyo is a nonstop concrete jungle except for a few spots

    -SK’s economy is still booming non stop while Japan’s is stagnant

    -SK is much more technologically advanced like way more

    -Healthcare is comparable but I’d give SK the edge

    -SK will adapt to technology to keep advancing while Japan is content with what they have (Fax machines)

    -SK is great as a English teacher. your rent is covered by the school and you only have to work on average 22 hours a week and can easily save $1200 a month. While its a terrible job in Japan

    -SK acknowledges the bad things it has done and apologized. The Japanese government doesn’t do the same and doesn’t teach it in school

    -South Korea’s popularity is sky rocketing while Japans has been stagnant

    -Korean food is better IMO

    Of course there are things in Japan that are better but overall there are more positives in Korea

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Torna atrás

    Interesting. The ancient rivalry between Korea and Japan. Historically it bordered on outright hatred and what could be classified as racism. Apparently Korea hasn't fully gotten over that their women were used by the Japanese military during WW2. Korea was conquered by Japan in 1910 and was ruled by Tokyo up to 1945.

    So it's understandable that one would want to crow about finally having surpassed Japan's ecomomy. For several decades, it was the number one Asian economy.

    But how exactly or why people of neither ethnicity living in the West should give a damn either way remains the total mystery.

    Wake us up when Korea's economy surpasses China, especially since China's population is over 1.2 billion.

    Isn't S.Korea's total birthrate falling? So then it's a dying nation. If total births aren't above replacement levels, they're in heap big o' trouble over the long haul.

    Replies: @Torna atrás

  421. @Reg Cæsar
    @Gandydancer


    being elected to a different office, namely Vice President, is clearly not the same as being elected to the Presidency
     
    Article II, Section 1 says the President is elected "together with the Vice-President". Later, it goes on

    In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the Same shall devolve on the Vice President...
     
    Filling in for the defunct President is the designated duty of the Vice President. Part of his office.

    The language is perfectly clear with no ambiguity whatsoever.
     
    So is the fugitive slave clause; a "person held to service... shall be delivered up on claim of the party..." No period within which this is to be done is specified. Can you imagine what fun an abolitionist state could have had with that-- and how John C Calhoun would have answered?

    What you are saying is that the amendment doesn't really exist. The authors were fine with a President-for-Life, just make him go through the servants' entrance the third, fourth, fifth, etc., time? And they were shrewd enough to get this ruse past both houses of Congress and 71 chambers in 36 states?

    You're calling my take "absurd"?

    What evidence do you have that this was the intention of those who wrote the amendment? House Joint Resolution 27 of 1947, passed by 238 FDR-weary Republicans (and 47 Democrats), was sent to the Senate Judiciary Committee, who amended it to read:


    A person who has held the office of President or acted as President on three hundred and sixty-five calendar days or more in each of two terms shall not be eligible to hold the office of President, or to act as President, for any part of another term...

    https://blogs.loc.gov/law/2017/02/ratification-anniversary/
     

    The House pulled one over on the Senate? Congress on the states? The states on their own citizens? Helluva conspiracy theory! Were those 238 Republicans fools, or knaves?

    That way lies Roe v Wade.
     
    And your way lie Tito, Sukarno, Marcos, the Duvaliers, and Jean-Bédel Bokassa.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    Don’t try to put words in my mouth. No, of course it wasn’t a conspiracy. That their wording of the relevant Amendment allowed someone to evade the term limit provision by being elected to a different office in the line of succession (not just the VP) to the Presidency never occurred to them. It is nonetheless not the proper function of the courts, and an illegitimate seizure of power by them, to decide what the framers meant to do and effectively insert its own language into the Amendment to supplement its actual plain language. If the Constitution is flawed there Amendment process is available to fix it. And if no such Amendment is passed such a President could be impeached for doing it. It’s not a crime but Congress can nonetheless consider it a high crime and misdemeanor.

    I’m not clear what conclusion you want me to conclude from the general non-enforcement of the fugitive slave clause. Yes, States behaved unconstitutionally in not enforcing it. Yes, enforcing it was to a large extent contrary to the actual balance of forces in existence and suffered from practical difficulties. The “Calhoun” problem you seem to be imagining is not one of them since if he were to demand the extradition of non-slaves (was that it?) such demands or resistance to them would properly be subject to adjudication. None of this has anything to do with the Presidential term limit provision.

  422. @John Johnson
    @Gandydancer

    It’s Kamela or bust. The (D)s can’t afford for blacks to stay home, and their pathological worship of blacks as a victim group prohibits replacing her anyway.

    As with the MSM you're not looking at the data and just assuming she pulls Blacks like Obama. Blacks normally vote for the Democrat and are concentrated in safe states. The numbers barely change over Biden.

    It comes down to the swing states and she isn't favored in ONE of them:
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/22/harris-trump-swing-state-polls/74500198007/

    Trump has gained everywhere and the Dems have lost everywhere. I can’t imagine how you have missed this. So Kemela should lose. But there are NO alternatives.

    Harris is a terrible candidate and there are plenty of alternatives.

    You don't run a candidate that has an unfavorable rating by independents in swing states.

    If they go with Harris then it will be a triumph of White guilt brain rot over numbers.

    Replies: @Manfred Arcane, @James B. Shearer

    Or, possibly, it could be a strategy on the part of the Democratic power brokers: Joe and Kamala are both liabilities, so force one out and then let the other run and lose. This gives the Dems a clean slate for 2028, whereas, if they had run Biden and he had lost, they’d still have Kamala as the heir apparent in 2028. This kills two birds with one stone and allows the real contenders like Newsome to not have to defer to Harris come next election, when they won’t be running against Trump and have a better chance of success.

    • Agree: Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Manfred Arcane

    Now THIS take makes a lot of sense. It is reality based, realpolitik, behind the scenes for how party politics actually work.

    And in 28, the Dems can find their new DEI Woke candidate, preferably with less private baggage that can come out during the campaign.

  423. @John Johnson
    @Gandydancer

    It’s Kamela or bust. The (D)s can’t afford for blacks to stay home, and their pathological worship of blacks as a victim group prohibits replacing her anyway.

    As with the MSM you're not looking at the data and just assuming she pulls Blacks like Obama. Blacks normally vote for the Democrat and are concentrated in safe states. The numbers barely change over Biden.

    It comes down to the swing states and she isn't favored in ONE of them:
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/22/harris-trump-swing-state-polls/74500198007/

    Trump has gained everywhere and the Dems have lost everywhere. I can’t imagine how you have missed this. So Kemela should lose. But there are NO alternatives.

    Harris is a terrible candidate and there are plenty of alternatives.

    You don't run a candidate that has an unfavorable rating by independents in swing states.

    If they go with Harris then it will be a triumph of White guilt brain rot over numbers.

    Replies: @Manfred Arcane, @James B. Shearer

    “If they go with Harris then it will be a triumph of White guilt brain rot over numbers.”

    It will mostly be because they have no obvious alternative and no easy way of getting rid of Harris. The delegates are almost all Biden loyalists and he is telling them to vote for Harris. The Democrats can’t afford to get in a huge fight about who their candidate is this close to the election. Harris may not be an ideal candidate but she is their best chance at this point. And they can hope Trump does something really stupid and hands them the election.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @James B. Shearer


    If they go with Harris then it will be a triumph of White guilt brain rot over numbers.
     
    It will mostly be because they have no obvious alternative and no easy way of getting rid of Harris.

    I'm not convinced Harris even wants to be president. She knows full well that she botched numerous interviews while VP. They've been keeping her out of the spotlight.

    If they had someone better I don't think it would be hard to get her to leave.

    Or just go to a brokered convention and let the voters decide.

    The challenger should show her swing state numbers and ask if they are making the right decision.

    Harris may not be an ideal candidate but she is their best chance at this point.

    She is not their best chance. She isn't pulling a single swing state. Her and Trump tie Wisconsin. Americans view Trump unfavorably and yet he is taking the swing states.

    A no-name moderate is the better choice. She has a very liberal record that has been so far kept from the voters. Harris is a lifelong defender of late term abortion. A dingbat that thinks aborting an 8 month old should legal. How is her border avoidance going to play in Arizona? This is a terrible candidate.

    All the Democrats have to do is pull a no-name moderate from a state house. They're not looking at the numbers and are paying too much attention to giddy DEI advocates in the MSM. This is like letting Joy Behar pick the candidate when they should be listening to Nate Silver.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  424. @HA
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    "But the whole suicide thing… please don’t bring that up, there’s simply too much suicide and craziness in my family for blogsters to make light of it."

    How could anyone read what I wrote and assume I'm making light of suicide? The fact that I took it seriously was the very reason I even responded, as I clearly stipulated.

    Again, be it sudden (I garbled that the first time, and it is to correct that slip of the keyboard that I respond now) or agonizingly drawn out, it's the wrong choice. There, is that clearer? And what's more, it is not nearly as entertainingly tragic (or any other kind of entertaining) as I suspect you sometimes think it is, and the same goes for your other self-destructive cries for attention. If you're brainless enough to ignore what I say (and claiming I am making light of anything right now is brainless indeed) I can't do anything about it except to clearly demonstrate -- as I just have -- that I was consistently on the side of those telling you to step away from the brink.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Back in the business — once you’re in the game, there is Rule One: you can’t try to knock another guy’s pitch, unless you have a better pitch yourself. The room will judge. You were trying to counsel me but also sneer at me at the same time: that’s kind of Bad Voodoo. Rule Two is, don’t try to beat Rule One.

    Well, whaddaya gonna do. As Beckett once said, You’re on earth, and there’s no cure for that!

  425. @HA
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    People who pretend to make nice to me don't accuse me of making light of their clinical pathologies. That's uncalled for and it's not how I roll. (Whereas making light of someone's clinically pathological fanboy propaganda is something I will cheerfully plead guilty to.)

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Wow, thanks again for appearing on “HOLY SHIT, WHO’S A SUPER UNBELIEVABLE INCREDIBLE A$$HOLE?” We thank you for coming, hope to see you again!

    Erin will see you out!

  426. @John Johnson
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Uh, yes. Yes I do actually. Not “needs”, but more in the way of absolute power corrupts absolutely type of thing (or absolute influence). I think over time, Rush began to really believe that he was the Rush Limbaugh image that he presented to his audience.

    Rush started off as some small time radio troll. Just watch the old videos of him on youtube. A natural snake oil salesmen that just as easily could have ended up selling timeshares.

    No one forced him into pushing Con Inc theories. No one forced him to bank millions and live in a wealthy liberal neighborhood with his cat. This "family values" conservative didn't have ANY children.

    As soon as he had millions in the bank he could have done an unfiltered radio show. He could have stopped lying about race and minimal government as a cure-all to human evolution.

    What you don't want to face is that we have Whites like Limbaugh and Hannity that don't want the full truth to be revealed. They want their own world of half-truths. A feel-good conservative all American world where liberalism doesn't exist and neither does Unz.

    If race is real then most of Con Inc falls apart. Suddenly it's not the "teacher's unions" that cause underperforming schools. Then that leads to honest discussions on unions and if they really can boost middle class wages. Con Inc talking heads DO NOT want that conversation to occur. They want conservative Whites to go to bed thinking "Da unions bad" and having dreams in Leave it to Bantu.

    I really doubt you have been around that many conservative Whites. They tend to have a denigrating view of the working class and view them as little people that need to be kept on the right track. Conservatives are just as afraid as liberals of the White working class finding their own Hitler. Conservatives want them in church and praying away the gay or for Haiti to find Christ. I think you would be surprised by how many Christian conservatives behind the scenes view the working class as a rabble of children that needs constant management to prevent them from harming themselves. These conservatives are horrified by the idea of discussing something like evolution and the implications for modern society.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    “What you don’t want to face is that we have Whites like Limbaugh and Hannity that don’t want the full truth to be revealed. ”

    I was actually agreeing with you, and then you went in another direction accusing me of listening to the likes of Hannity.

    What is that quote from that song from back in the day?

    “Now I don’t know who the f you think you’re talking to, but I’m not him, slim, so watch what you do.”

    “They want their own world of half-truths. A feel-good conservative all American world where liberalism doesn’t exist and neither does Unz.”

    Uh, yes. For Rush, it was always “Liberals evil and bad, Conservatives (of course he meant the GOP) good.”

    “I really doubt you have been around that many conservative Whites. They tend to have a denigrating view of the working class and view them as little people that need to be kept on the right track.”

    I really doubt that you’re specifically talking to me. Because again, I’m not that person. Just because you were totally incorrect on thinking that Harris won’t be her party’s official nominee, doesn’t mean you don’t have interesting takes.

    One of the best obits on Rush was published on Unz, by Andrew Anglin. I suggest that you read it.

    “History will not be kind to Rush Limbaugh”–Andrew Anglin

    Andrew was correct.

  427. @Manfred Arcane
    @John Johnson

    Or, possibly, it could be a strategy on the part of the Democratic power brokers: Joe and Kamala are both liabilities, so force one out and then let the other run and lose. This gives the Dems a clean slate for 2028, whereas, if they had run Biden and he had lost, they'd still have Kamala as the heir apparent in 2028. This kills two birds with one stone and allows the real contenders like Newsome to not have to defer to Harris come next election, when they won't be running against Trump and have a better chance of success.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Now THIS take makes a lot of sense. It is reality based, realpolitik, behind the scenes for how party politics actually work.

    And in 28, the Dems can find their new DEI Woke candidate, preferably with less private baggage that can come out during the campaign.

  428. @Torna atrás
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    South Korea is now comfortably better than Japan as a country

    -South Korea now enjoys a higher gdp per capita (PPP) as of 2019

    -South Korea has a lower cost of living and higher wages

    -Due to the system you can rent for cheap as a low as $500 a month in a 1 bedroom in Gangnam

    -With a better public transport system (Yes Seoul's is better than Tokyo and cheaper too)

    -People are more open and expressive than Japan(this can be a positive depending on the person). But its easier to make friends

    -Cities are much more vibrant. Seoul for example boasts much more greenspace compared to Tokyo, every apartment complex has a nice area at the bottom for green space and hanging out while Tokyo is a nonstop concrete jungle except for a few spots

    -SK's economy is still booming non stop while Japan's is stagnant

    -SK is much more technologically advanced like way more

    -Healthcare is comparable but I'd give SK the edge

    -SK will adapt to technology to keep advancing while Japan is content with what they have (Fax machines)

    -SK is great as a English teacher. your rent is covered by the school and you only have to work on average 22 hours a week and can easily save $1200 a month. While its a terrible job in Japan

    -SK acknowledges the bad things it has done and apologized. The Japanese government doesn't do the same and doesn't teach it in school

    -South Korea's popularity is sky rocketing while Japans has been stagnant

    -Korean food is better IMO

    Of course there are things in Japan that are better but overall there are more positives in Korea

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Interesting. The ancient rivalry between Korea and Japan. Historically it bordered on outright hatred and what could be classified as racism. Apparently Korea hasn’t fully gotten over that their women were used by the Japanese military during WW2. Korea was conquered by Japan in 1910 and was ruled by Tokyo up to 1945.

    So it’s understandable that one would want to crow about finally having surpassed Japan’s ecomomy. For several decades, it was the number one Asian economy.

    But how exactly or why people of neither ethnicity living in the West should give a damn either way remains the total mystery.

    Wake us up when Korea’s economy surpasses China, especially since China’s population is over 1.2 billion.

    Isn’t S.Korea’s total birthrate falling? So then it’s a dying nation. If total births aren’t above replacement levels, they’re in heap big o’ trouble over the long haul.

    • Replies: @Torna atrás
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Japan's population shrank for the 15th year in a row as the country continues to grapple with a chronically low birth rate, an annual report released Wednesday by the ministry of internal affairs shows.

    The number of Japanese residents fell by 861,000 (0.7%) from a year before — marking its steepest decline ever — to 121,561,801. However, the number of foreign residents rose by 329,535 (11.01%) from last year to 3,323,374, hitting a record high.

  429. @James B. Shearer
    @John Johnson

    "If they go with Harris then it will be a triumph of White guilt brain rot over numbers."

    It will mostly be because they have no obvious alternative and no easy way of getting rid of Harris. The delegates are almost all Biden loyalists and he is telling them to vote for Harris. The Democrats can't afford to get in a huge fight about who their candidate is this close to the election. Harris may not be an ideal candidate but she is their best chance at this point. And they can hope Trump does something really stupid and hands them the election.

    Replies: @John Johnson

    If they go with Harris then it will be a triumph of White guilt brain rot over numbers.

    It will mostly be because they have no obvious alternative and no easy way of getting rid of Harris.

    I’m not convinced Harris even wants to be president. She knows full well that she botched numerous interviews while VP. They’ve been keeping her out of the spotlight.

    If they had someone better I don’t think it would be hard to get her to leave.

    Or just go to a brokered convention and let the voters decide.

    The challenger should show her swing state numbers and ask if they are making the right decision.

    Harris may not be an ideal candidate but she is their best chance at this point.

    She is not their best chance. She isn’t pulling a single swing state. Her and Trump tie Wisconsin. Americans view Trump unfavorably and yet he is taking the swing states.

    A no-name moderate is the better choice. She has a very liberal record that has been so far kept from the voters. Harris is a lifelong defender of late term abortion. A dingbat that thinks aborting an 8 month old should legal. How is her border avoidance going to play in Arizona? This is a terrible candidate.

    All the Democrats have to do is pull a no-name moderate from a state house. They’re not looking at the numbers and are paying too much attention to giddy DEI advocates in the MSM. This is like letting Joy Behar pick the candidate when they should be listening to Nate Silver.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @John Johnson

    "I’m not convinced Harris even wants to be president."

    Again, where is this fuckery coming from? Produce your evidence that Harris will not be her party's nominee. Like to see it and then examine it.

    "Or just go to a brokered convention and let the voters decide."

    The party isn't going to do that. That's too big a risk, and looks awful on TV. The optics would send a message that the party isn't in control and can't keep their shit together, so therefore, why should they be trusted with the White House?

    FACT: Harris has a wellfunded warchest.

    FACT: All of Biden's pledged delegates from the primary season will go to her. She was part of the Biden-Harris ticket, and thus is the beneficiary of those delegates.

    "The challenger should show her swing state numbers and ask if they are making the right decision."

    WHICH challenger. WHO at this point? Also, you seem to avoid the fact that in Harris's mind, the idea that she could become the first woman president--well, that's a big thing to consider. Why do you think Hillary ran in 16? It was her turn and her time, but also the idea that she could win and become the first woman president.

    "All the Democrats have to do is pull a no-name moderate from a state house."

    All well and good, but with the convention about 3 weeks out, they're not going to do that. It's best to deal with reality and not wishful thinking.

    An example that would give credence to your thinking:

    Suppose an unknown candidate had challenged Biden during the primaries and exceeded expectations? That candidate would be in a very strong position to now be given the chance at the party's nomination. But the party didn't permit it. They were hellbent on Biden receiving the nomination. It's not like its been a secret with his cognitive decline.

    Perhaps there is more infighting among the various factions and its been ongoing for most of this year. Obama at first hesitated to endorse Harris, and perhaps for reasons that you've stated. But he was "persuaded" that Harris is the party's choice. Why did he change his mind? Because the powerbrokers within the party "persuaded" him to do so. Simple as that.

    "They’re not looking at the numbers and are paying too much attention to giddy DEI advocates in the MSM. "

    Stop the cap! Stop it.

    These giddy DEI advocates control their own party. The Democratic party IS largely controlled by DEI Woke CRT. That's who they are. These people largely control and set the domestic agenda policies.

    "This is like letting Joy Behar pick the candidate when they should be listening to Nate Silver."

    Joy Behar would probably insist on AOC---and there would be a significant percentage of the party's powerbrokers who would second that choice and push for her candidacy.

    Nate Silver and others like him would be denounced as racist, sexist, etc. and not given a hearing within the party, if they were to publicly question the wisdom of Harris's candidacy for too long a time.

    The party has chased most of the moderates out of the Democrats' influence of power. Harris is who the powerful (those that control the party's delegates) want as their nominee. It's really not any more complicated then that.

    Riddle me this: WHY exactly was Harris pushed so hard to be Biden's running mate in 2020? Theoretically, Biden could've chosen a male candidate. Why wasn't Indian Pocahantas chosen instead? Because she was too white.

    This is who the party is in 24--DEI, Woke, CRT types. Those are the ones who control major power within the party.

    To then insult them and run a white male over Harris? The cry would be racist, sexist etc from now til end of year. And it would also largely piss off the party's BASE--which would in turn stay at home.

    Again. Produce evidence that the party won't nominate Harris. She is the current VP of the US. Produce evidence so we can examine it.

  430. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Torna atrás

    Interesting. The ancient rivalry between Korea and Japan. Historically it bordered on outright hatred and what could be classified as racism. Apparently Korea hasn't fully gotten over that their women were used by the Japanese military during WW2. Korea was conquered by Japan in 1910 and was ruled by Tokyo up to 1945.

    So it's understandable that one would want to crow about finally having surpassed Japan's ecomomy. For several decades, it was the number one Asian economy.

    But how exactly or why people of neither ethnicity living in the West should give a damn either way remains the total mystery.

    Wake us up when Korea's economy surpasses China, especially since China's population is over 1.2 billion.

    Isn't S.Korea's total birthrate falling? So then it's a dying nation. If total births aren't above replacement levels, they're in heap big o' trouble over the long haul.

    Replies: @Torna atrás

    Japan’s population shrank for the 15th year in a row as the country continues to grapple with a chronically low birth rate, an annual report released Wednesday by the ministry of internal affairs shows.

    The number of Japanese residents fell by 861,000 (0.7%) from a year before — marking its steepest decline ever — to 121,561,801. However, the number of foreign residents rose by 329,535 (11.01%) from last year to 3,323,374, hitting a record high.

  431. @John Johnson
    @OilcanFloyd

    Limbaugh was such a fraud, as is Hannity. God only knows what someone like Epstein had on him.

    Are you kidding me? You think a Con Inc scumster like Limbaugh needs an Epstein to blackmail him?

    You should really spend more time around conservative Whites if you think Limbaugh is some anomaly. It's a common belief among upper class Whites that the masses need to be told fibs about the economy.

    I used to hang around a GOP activist and he would readily admit in private that they had to lie about race. They need Limbaughs to keep the White workers into believing that "minimal government" is everything and race is just paint color. I would point out that he didn't like how liberals lied to students and he would agree. But that's different because they're evil. The message was that our lies are better.

    I've had Con Inc supporters even at Unz fully admit that Hannity and Limbaugh types can't be honest about race. They fear a breakdown of society if Whites learn the truth. Why give tax breaks to the wealthy if economic standards have more to do with race? Why serve the best interest of the wealthy? They DO NOT want Whites going down that path. Better to have "Football Sundays" and keep Whites thinking that Haiti just needs some tax breaks and charter schools.

    Con Inc is an alliance of Whites that supports lying to other Whites. I find it to be morally disgusting but in their minds it's for the best. They believe pretty lies have to exist to stop the really bad lies of liberalism.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @OilcanFloyd

    Are you kidding me? You think a Con Inc scumster like Limbaugh needs an Epstein to blackmail him?

    Based on the old rumor that Rush had viagra and underage girls on a plane with him, yes I do. Was the claim true? I don’t know, but he seemed like the type that could be easily compromised.

    You should really spend more time around conservative Whites if you think Limbaugh is some anomaly. It’s a common belief among upper class Whites that the masses need to be told fibs about the economy.

    Upper class or conservative? I don’t usually consider any of our upper classes to be conservatives. I spend plenty of time around conservative whites, and I don’t think many would relate to Limbaugh types, Republican activists, or upper class types in person. Of course our betters think they have to lie to the rest of us, which why I call them frauds.

    I didn’t mention race, but I don’t think we would disagree there.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @OilcanFloyd

    This is a key point. For the most part, the top 1% of income (the top 1% within the top 1%, basically the billionaires), are not conservative. At best they are libertarian. All for legalizing drugs and sex, and leave their stuff (or wealth) alone. Not really conservative by a damn sight. And if push comes to shove, they'll go along with the DEI, Woke, CRT agenda if only to get the rabble rousing leftist whackjob proles off their backs and leave them the hell alone.

    And if people still persist in annoying them, they'll simply outsource their jobs, factories, etc to somewhere else.

    Ever notice: That when the top 1% businessmen outsource US jobs, the recipient nation is never to a first world economic equivalent to the US? In other words, the benefactors of former US jobs don't go to Germany, UK, France, etc? It's always to 2nd and even 3rd world nations--nations that are easily corruptible, will look the other way on regulations (both environmental and worker safety), these nations's workforces aren't unionized, and so the former US jobs can employ semi-slave labor. Oh, they might pay a whole dollar per hr, and comfort themselves by thinking that they're so magnanimous by paying more than the local jobs could afford to pay, but in the end it's basically to line and stuff their pockets with insane amounts of profits that they'd have only made about a third of IF they had kept their businesses in the US.

    And Rush was definitely a part of that 1%. Those are the circles he ran in, just like Jeffrey Epstein did. Rush strongly pushed outsourcing ER, free trade for a good part of his career. Wonder why, if he always claimed he loved the US, and the US workers?

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    , @John Johnson
    @OilcanFloyd


    Are you kidding me? You think a Con Inc scumster like Limbaugh needs an Epstein to blackmail him?

     

    Based on the old rumor that Rush had viagra and underage girls on a plane with him, yes I do. Was the claim true? I don’t know, but he seemed like the type that could be easily compromised.

    Compromised to do what exactly? Be a race denying con artist? He was doing that before his pill addiction.

    The guy was a scammer. Here he is explaining how talk radio is just a formula to elicit a response in order to get ratings:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELRmgJw8muw

    I spend plenty of time around conservative whites, and I don’t think many would relate to Limbaugh types, Republican activists, or upper class types in person.

    I don't mean socially conservative but politically conservative. Conservatives that talk about politics and watch Fox News. They completely eat up the garbage that people like Rush and Hannity sell. It doesn't matter if they are highly intelligent. The overall message is too appealing to their ideals. One of the smartest people I know watches Fox News for 3-4 hours a day. It's unreal.

  432. @OilcanFloyd
    @John Johnson


    Are you kidding me? You think a Con Inc scumster like Limbaugh needs an Epstein to blackmail him?
     
    Based on the old rumor that Rush had viagra and underage girls on a plane with him, yes I do. Was the claim true? I don't know, but he seemed like the type that could be easily compromised.

    You should really spend more time around conservative Whites if you think Limbaugh is some anomaly. It’s a common belief among upper class Whites that the masses need to be told fibs about the economy.

     

    Upper class or conservative? I don't usually consider any of our upper classes to be conservatives. I spend plenty of time around conservative whites, and I don't think many would relate to Limbaugh types, Republican activists, or upper class types in person. Of course our betters think they have to lie to the rest of us, which why I call them frauds.

    I didn't mention race, but I don't think we would disagree there.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @John Johnson

    This is a key point. For the most part, the top 1% of income (the top 1% within the top 1%, basically the billionaires), are not conservative. At best they are libertarian. All for legalizing drugs and sex, and leave their stuff (or wealth) alone. Not really conservative by a damn sight. And if push comes to shove, they’ll go along with the DEI, Woke, CRT agenda if only to get the rabble rousing leftist whackjob proles off their backs and leave them the hell alone.

    And if people still persist in annoying them, they’ll simply outsource their jobs, factories, etc to somewhere else.

    Ever notice: That when the top 1% businessmen outsource US jobs, the recipient nation is never to a first world economic equivalent to the US? In other words, the benefactors of former US jobs don’t go to Germany, UK, France, etc? It’s always to 2nd and even 3rd world nations–nations that are easily corruptible, will look the other way on regulations (both environmental and worker safety), these nations’s workforces aren’t unionized, and so the former US jobs can employ semi-slave labor. Oh, they might pay a whole dollar per hr, and comfort themselves by thinking that they’re so magnanimous by paying more than the local jobs could afford to pay, but in the end it’s basically to line and stuff their pockets with insane amounts of profits that they’d have only made about a third of IF they had kept their businesses in the US.

    And Rush was definitely a part of that 1%. Those are the circles he ran in, just like Jeffrey Epstein did. Rush strongly pushed outsourcing ER, free trade for a good part of his career. Wonder why, if he always claimed he loved the US, and the US workers?

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    "For the most part, the top 1% of income (the top 1% within the top 1%, basically the billionaires), are not conservative. At best they are libertarian. All for legalizing drugs and sex, and leave their stuff (or wealth) alone. Not really conservative by a damn sight."

    This is a key misconception. The "top 1% of income (basically the billionaires") are not really strictly "ideological" in any sort of established good faith way, in the way that you'd like to frame them: really, they are just either Jews, or else Jew-adjacent. Which means they don't really view you as your countrymen, your fellow Americans or whatever... you're just goyim -- stupid cattle to be used however: in wars, or put on standby for future wars, or replaced or out-sourced, or who cares what. This place, this land, to them, is not a living place or a country with a history and culture, or a place you call home: it's just a landing-spot, it's just a zone. We call them "Rootless Cosmopolitans" not out of bigotry or craziness, but from actual, well-placed societal analysis.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  433. @John Johnson
    @James B. Shearer


    If they go with Harris then it will be a triumph of White guilt brain rot over numbers.
     
    It will mostly be because they have no obvious alternative and no easy way of getting rid of Harris.

    I'm not convinced Harris even wants to be president. She knows full well that she botched numerous interviews while VP. They've been keeping her out of the spotlight.

    If they had someone better I don't think it would be hard to get her to leave.

    Or just go to a brokered convention and let the voters decide.

    The challenger should show her swing state numbers and ask if they are making the right decision.

    Harris may not be an ideal candidate but she is their best chance at this point.

    She is not their best chance. She isn't pulling a single swing state. Her and Trump tie Wisconsin. Americans view Trump unfavorably and yet he is taking the swing states.

    A no-name moderate is the better choice. She has a very liberal record that has been so far kept from the voters. Harris is a lifelong defender of late term abortion. A dingbat that thinks aborting an 8 month old should legal. How is her border avoidance going to play in Arizona? This is a terrible candidate.

    All the Democrats have to do is pull a no-name moderate from a state house. They're not looking at the numbers and are paying too much attention to giddy DEI advocates in the MSM. This is like letting Joy Behar pick the candidate when they should be listening to Nate Silver.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    “I’m not convinced Harris even wants to be president.”

    Again, where is this fuckery coming from? Produce your evidence that Harris will not be her party’s nominee. Like to see it and then examine it.

    “Or just go to a brokered convention and let the voters decide.”

    The party isn’t going to do that. That’s too big a risk, and looks awful on TV. The optics would send a message that the party isn’t in control and can’t keep their shit together, so therefore, why should they be trusted with the White House?

    FACT: Harris has a wellfunded warchest.

    FACT: All of Biden’s pledged delegates from the primary season will go to her. She was part of the Biden-Harris ticket, and thus is the beneficiary of those delegates.

    “The challenger should show her swing state numbers and ask if they are making the right decision.”

    WHICH challenger. WHO at this point? Also, you seem to avoid the fact that in Harris’s mind, the idea that she could become the first woman president–well, that’s a big thing to consider. Why do you think Hillary ran in 16? It was her turn and her time, but also the idea that she could win and become the first woman president.

    “All the Democrats have to do is pull a no-name moderate from a state house.”

    All well and good, but with the convention about 3 weeks out, they’re not going to do that. It’s best to deal with reality and not wishful thinking.

    An example that would give credence to your thinking:

    Suppose an unknown candidate had challenged Biden during the primaries and exceeded expectations? That candidate would be in a very strong position to now be given the chance at the party’s nomination. But the party didn’t permit it. They were hellbent on Biden receiving the nomination. It’s not like its been a secret with his cognitive decline.

    Perhaps there is more infighting among the various factions and its been ongoing for most of this year. Obama at first hesitated to endorse Harris, and perhaps for reasons that you’ve stated. But he was “persuaded” that Harris is the party’s choice. Why did he change his mind? Because the powerbrokers within the party “persuaded” him to do so. Simple as that.

    “They’re not looking at the numbers and are paying too much attention to giddy DEI advocates in the MSM. ”

    Stop the cap! Stop it.

    These giddy DEI advocates control their own party. The Democratic party IS largely controlled by DEI Woke CRT. That’s who they are. These people largely control and set the domestic agenda policies.

    “This is like letting Joy Behar pick the candidate when they should be listening to Nate Silver.”

    Joy Behar would probably insist on AOC—and there would be a significant percentage of the party’s powerbrokers who would second that choice and push for her candidacy.

    Nate Silver and others like him would be denounced as racist, sexist, etc. and not given a hearing within the party, if they were to publicly question the wisdom of Harris’s candidacy for too long a time.

    The party has chased most of the moderates out of the Democrats’ influence of power. Harris is who the powerful (those that control the party’s delegates) want as their nominee. It’s really not any more complicated then that.

    Riddle me this: WHY exactly was Harris pushed so hard to be Biden’s running mate in 2020? Theoretically, Biden could’ve chosen a male candidate. Why wasn’t Indian Pocahantas chosen instead? Because she was too white.

    This is who the party is in 24–DEI, Woke, CRT types. Those are the ones who control major power within the party.

    To then insult them and run a white male over Harris? The cry would be racist, sexist etc from now til end of year. And it would also largely piss off the party’s BASE–which would in turn stay at home.

    Again. Produce evidence that the party won’t nominate Harris. She is the current VP of the US. Produce evidence so we can examine it.

  434. @HA
    @Gandydancer

    "Nonsense. As I said, Ukraine became a NATO adjunct in 2014 ..."

    It still had no interest in joining prior to Putin's landgrabs. Sweden and Finland became official "partners" of NATO in 1994, some two decades earlier than Ukraine's adjunct status, whatever that means. But until they themselves decided to take the next step (again, that doesn't happen without a popular mandate, which, again, didn't exist in Ukraine prior to the swipe of Crimea and Donbass), Finland and Sweden could have continued to stay aloof for pretty much forever.

    But that wasn't enough for Putin, was it?, and so here he is with two more NATO neighbors.

    So yeah, cry all you want about NATO aggression and how Russia is winning, but anyone who's paying attention knows who's talking nonsense.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    Sweden and Finland became official “partners” of NATO in 1994, some two decades earlier than Ukraine’s adjunct status, whatever that means.

    So, you’re effectively admitting what I said:

    It doesn’t matter whether Sweden or Finland are let into NATO, they were already anti-Russian.

    As to what “adjunct” means, it means, for example, this:

    For example, in 2016 the CIA assisted Ukraine in forming Unit 2245, an intelligence gathering team that went out and captured Russian military equipment and weapons for examination to discover how they operated and what vulnerabilities could be exploited. /
    By the time Russia invaded Ukraine in early 2022 there were a dozen CIA/Ukraine monitoring stations along the Russian border

    It mattered hardly at all whether Sweden and Finland formally joined NATO if they were already working with NATO, and your continued insistence that their joining formally is a great loss for Russia if they do is nonsensical. Ukraine will not, however, continue to function as a NATO asset. I care not at all whether you continue to deny this reality. It’s reality just the same.

  435. @OilcanFloyd
    @John Johnson


    Are you kidding me? You think a Con Inc scumster like Limbaugh needs an Epstein to blackmail him?
     
    Based on the old rumor that Rush had viagra and underage girls on a plane with him, yes I do. Was the claim true? I don't know, but he seemed like the type that could be easily compromised.

    You should really spend more time around conservative Whites if you think Limbaugh is some anomaly. It’s a common belief among upper class Whites that the masses need to be told fibs about the economy.

     

    Upper class or conservative? I don't usually consider any of our upper classes to be conservatives. I spend plenty of time around conservative whites, and I don't think many would relate to Limbaugh types, Republican activists, or upper class types in person. Of course our betters think they have to lie to the rest of us, which why I call them frauds.

    I didn't mention race, but I don't think we would disagree there.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @John Johnson

    Are you kidding me? You think a Con Inc scumster like Limbaugh needs an Epstein to blackmail him?

    Based on the old rumor that Rush had viagra and underage girls on a plane with him, yes I do. Was the claim true? I don’t know, but he seemed like the type that could be easily compromised.

    Compromised to do what exactly? Be a race denying con artist? He was doing that before his pill addiction.

    The guy was a scammer. Here he is explaining how talk radio is just a formula to elicit a response in order to get ratings:

    I spend plenty of time around conservative whites, and I don’t think many would relate to Limbaugh types, Republican activists, or upper class types in person.

    I don’t mean socially conservative but politically conservative. Conservatives that talk about politics and watch Fox News. They completely eat up the garbage that people like Rush and Hannity sell. It doesn’t matter if they are highly intelligent. The overall message is too appealing to their ideals. One of the smartest people I know watches Fox News for 3-4 hours a day. It’s unreal.

    • Agree: Yojimbo/Zatoichi
  436. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @OilcanFloyd

    This is a key point. For the most part, the top 1% of income (the top 1% within the top 1%, basically the billionaires), are not conservative. At best they are libertarian. All for legalizing drugs and sex, and leave their stuff (or wealth) alone. Not really conservative by a damn sight. And if push comes to shove, they'll go along with the DEI, Woke, CRT agenda if only to get the rabble rousing leftist whackjob proles off their backs and leave them the hell alone.

    And if people still persist in annoying them, they'll simply outsource their jobs, factories, etc to somewhere else.

    Ever notice: That when the top 1% businessmen outsource US jobs, the recipient nation is never to a first world economic equivalent to the US? In other words, the benefactors of former US jobs don't go to Germany, UK, France, etc? It's always to 2nd and even 3rd world nations--nations that are easily corruptible, will look the other way on regulations (both environmental and worker safety), these nations's workforces aren't unionized, and so the former US jobs can employ semi-slave labor. Oh, they might pay a whole dollar per hr, and comfort themselves by thinking that they're so magnanimous by paying more than the local jobs could afford to pay, but in the end it's basically to line and stuff their pockets with insane amounts of profits that they'd have only made about a third of IF they had kept their businesses in the US.

    And Rush was definitely a part of that 1%. Those are the circles he ran in, just like Jeffrey Epstein did. Rush strongly pushed outsourcing ER, free trade for a good part of his career. Wonder why, if he always claimed he loved the US, and the US workers?

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “For the most part, the top 1% of income (the top 1% within the top 1%, basically the billionaires), are not conservative. At best they are libertarian. All for legalizing drugs and sex, and leave their stuff (or wealth) alone. Not really conservative by a damn sight.”

    This is a key misconception. The “top 1% of income (basically the billionaires”) are not really strictly “ideological” in any sort of established good faith way, in the way that you’d like to frame them: really, they are just either Jews, or else Jew-adjacent. Which means they don’t really view you as your countrymen, your fellow Americans or whatever… you’re just goyim — stupid cattle to be used however: in wars, or put on standby for future wars, or replaced or out-sourced, or who cares what. This place, this land, to them, is not a living place or a country with a history and culture, or a place you call home: it’s just a landing-spot, it’s just a zone. We call them “Rootless Cosmopolitans” not out of bigotry or craziness, but from actual, well-placed societal analysis.

    • Agree: OilcanFloyd
    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Definitely agree, they are globalists.

    For last couple decades, the goyim globalist par excellence would be best symbolized in say, Mitt Romney.

    Personal morality let alone ethics do not factor into their decisions in the slightest.

    I was specifically stating that if they have any ideology at all, it would be at best described as closest to libertarianism, which isn't constrained by traditional morality whatsoever. And Rush was indeed a part of this circle, he ran in the top 1% of powerholders in the US.

  437. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    "For the most part, the top 1% of income (the top 1% within the top 1%, basically the billionaires), are not conservative. At best they are libertarian. All for legalizing drugs and sex, and leave their stuff (or wealth) alone. Not really conservative by a damn sight."

    This is a key misconception. The "top 1% of income (basically the billionaires") are not really strictly "ideological" in any sort of established good faith way, in the way that you'd like to frame them: really, they are just either Jews, or else Jew-adjacent. Which means they don't really view you as your countrymen, your fellow Americans or whatever... you're just goyim -- stupid cattle to be used however: in wars, or put on standby for future wars, or replaced or out-sourced, or who cares what. This place, this land, to them, is not a living place or a country with a history and culture, or a place you call home: it's just a landing-spot, it's just a zone. We call them "Rootless Cosmopolitans" not out of bigotry or craziness, but from actual, well-placed societal analysis.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Definitely agree, they are globalists.

    For last couple decades, the goyim globalist par excellence would be best symbolized in say, Mitt Romney.

    Personal morality let alone ethics do not factor into their decisions in the slightest.

    I was specifically stating that if they have any ideology at all, it would be at best described as closest to libertarianism, which isn’t constrained by traditional morality whatsoever. And Rush was indeed a part of this circle, he ran in the top 1% of powerholders in the US.

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