The two stars of the 2022 World Cup so far are 35 year old Argentina legend Lionel Messi with 5 goals and 3 assists versus 23 year old French superstar Kylian Mbappé with 5 goals and 2 assists. Fortuitously, they are meeting in the final on Sunday morning. From Wikipedia:
Messi was born on 24 June 1987 in Rosario, Santa Fe,[8] the third of four children of Jorge Messi, a steel factory manager, and his wife Celia Cuccittini, who worked in a magnet manufacturing workshop. On his father’s side, he is of Italian and Spanish descent, the great-grandson of immigrants from the northcentral Adriatic Marche region of Italy, and on his mother’s side, he has primarily Italian ancestry.[3] Growing up in a tight-knit, football-loving family, “Leo” developed a passion for the sport from an early age, playing constantly with his older brothers, Rodrigo and Matías, and his cousins, Maximiliano and Emanuel Biancucchi, both of whom became professional footballers.[9] At the age of four he joined local club Grandoli, where he was coached by his father, though his earliest influence as a player came from his maternal grandmother, Celia, who accompanied him to training and matches.[10] He was greatly affected by her death, shortly before his eleventh birthday; since then, as a devout Roman Catholic, he has celebrated his goals by looking up and pointing to the sky in tribute to his grandmother.[11][12]
“When you saw him you would think: this kid can’t play ball. He’s a dwarf, he’s too fragile, too small. But immediately you’d realise that he was born different, that he was a phenomenon and that he was going to be something impressive.”
– Newell’s Old Boys youth coach Adrián Coria shares his first impression of the 12-year-old Messi.[13]
A lifelong supporter of Newell’s Old Boys, Messi joined the Rosario club when he was six years old. During the six years he played for Newell’s, he scored almost 500 goals as a member of “The Machine of ’87”, the near-unbeatable youth side named for the year of their birth, and regularly entertained crowds by performing ball tricks during half-time of the first team’s home games.[14][15] However, his future as a professional player was threatened when, aged 10, he was diagnosed with a growth hormone deficiency. As his father’s health insurance covered only two years of growth hormone treatment, which cost at least $1,000 per month, Newell’s agreed to contribute, but later reneged on their promise.[16] He was scouted by Buenos Aires club River Plate, whose playmaker, Pablo Aimar, he idolised, but they declined to pay for his treatment.[17][18] His goalscoring idol growing up was Ronaldo, with Messi calling him “the best forward I’ve ever seen”.[19]
As the Messi family had relatives in Catalonia, they sought to arrange a trial with Barcelona in September 2000. First team director Charly Rexach immediately wanted to sign him, but the board of directors hesitated; at the time it was highly unusual for European clubs to sign foreign players of such a young age. On 14 December, an ultimatum was issued for Barcelona to prove their commitment, and Rexach, with no other paper at hand, offered a contract on a paper napkin.[17][20] In February 2001, the family relocated to Barcelona, where they moved into an apartment near the club’s stadium, Camp Nou. …
After a year at Barcelona’s youth academy, La Masia, Messi was finally enrolled in the Royal Spanish Football Federation (RFEF) in February 2002. Now playing in all competitions, he befriended his teammates, among whom were Cesc Fàbregas and Gerard Piqué.[22] After completing his growth hormone treatment aged 14,[23] Messi became an integral part of the “Baby Dream Team”, Barcelona’s greatest-ever youth side.
Also from Wikipedia:
Kylian Mbappé Lottin[5] was born on 20 December 1998[6] in the 19th arrondissement of Paris[7] and was raised in Bondy, Seine-Saint-Denis, a commune 10.9 km (6.8 mi) from the centre of Paris.[8] His father, Wilfried, is originally from Cameroon, and, as well as being Mbappé’s agent, is a football coach, while his mother, Fayza Lamari, is of Algerian Kabyle origin and is a former handball player.[9][10][11][12] Mbappé is a practising Christian.[13][14][15] He has a younger brother, Ethan, who played for Paris Saint-Germain’s under-12 squad in 2018.[16][17] Mbappé’s adoptive brother, Jirès Kembo Ekoko, is also a professional football player.[18] As a child, Kylian Mbappé went to a private Catholic school in Bondy, where he was considered academically gifted but unruly.[19] Growing up, his idols were Zinedine Zidane, Ronaldo Nazário, and Cristiano Ronaldo.[20][21][22] For some time period in his childhood, he had a nanny whose entire family were AC Milan fans from whom Mbappé once received Robinho’s number 70 shirt as a gift.[23][24] However, as a child, Mbappé aspired to play for Real Madrid.[25]
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Sportsball and moovies. Opiates.
Your world is crumbling meanwhile.
Movies give us female warriors; gay life coaches.
Sports give us Africans of singular ability on top of a system built and maintained by Europeans.Replies: @Wokechoke
Steve probably accomplishes as much good in an average weekend than you have in your entire career. Let him watch a damn ball game!Replies: @Renard
sewerutopia--all boring away like the nasty little termites they are at what little border protection will Europe has left, preventing a black wave of destruction upon the West.~~Always remember about the immigration shills: they are absolute sociopaths.Nothing is preventing them from living with whatever "diversity" they want. All their "immigration!" cant is about preventing you--you dumb deplorable white guy--from living as you want.Intense vile sociopathy--directed at you. Never forget.Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @anon, @showmetherealSteve forgot to mention, they’re also teammates, which people have to constantly remember due to Messi being so associated with Barcelona. He agreed to be sold to PSG as one last sacrifice to the club he loved which gave him his treatments during it’s current financial troubles and play out his final years in Paris.
Mbappe is a rare combination of quick wits with a very athletic body, he is able to see gaps and then immediately take shots like nobody else.
I have never understood how even Barcelona’s fabulous PR have got away with giving growth hormone to an up and coming player.
The cousin playing in Italy never needed it to become a top division regular.
His father is a lot shorter than the grown up Messi.
Basically Messi is no better than those athletes on Steroids – worse he has got a permanent advantage from it. A massive scam in plain sight.
https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2015/04/lebron_james_on_new_nba_hgh_te.htmlReplies: @JR Ewing
Mbappe speaks both English and Spanish quite well, as well as his native French. Probably gives a clue as to his future club career.
Hard to say who will win today.
I understand that the French team has been affected by a respiratory virus, so there is that.
Most likely the result will be affected by some piece of amazing luck, an incredible save by a goalkeeper, a piece of individual genius, or an atrocious refereeing decision. That is how it usually goes.
Mbappe is by no means unstoppable. Like many top soccer stars he is a bit of a flat-track bully and prospers when he can use his exceptional speed against inferior opposition.
Messi is now 35 years old, and well past his best, but still capable of flashes of genius.
My suspicion is that neither player will play a major role in today’s game, but I would love to be wrong.
It is a good day to be a Paris Saint-Germain fan, because you know that one of your players is going to be a World Cup winner today.
Funny enough, Thierry Henry wasn't one of them, he only went there the next spring.Replies: @showmethereal
Mbappe is a rare combination of quick wits with a very athletic body, he is able to see gaps and then immediately take shots like nobody else.
https://icdn.football-espana.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Lionel-Messi-and-Kylian-Mbappe.jpegReplies: @Altai, @showmethereal
Also worth noting that PSG is also owned by the Qataris so this was the dream outcome for them. (Other than Qatar winning)
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https://twitter.com/elfnox/status/1604133652568449029
Haha, such a witty ditty.
Despite being European, I hate football and I have never seen a match to the end in my life. But, I learned from an Argentinian friend who would not go out for a dinner with friends during matches because “Argentina needs him in front of the TV to win” that Mbappe is supposedly dating transwoman Ines Rau.
https://www.nationalworld.com/news/people/who-is-kylian-mbappes-girlfriend-france-player-ines-rau-are-they-still-together-who-is-rose-bertram-3948964
https://sportsbrief.com/football/paris-saint-germain/22936-psg-star-mbappe-reportedly-dating-trans-model-ines-rau-transgender-woman-playboy-cover/
HGH “therapy?” Sounds like doping to me.
I always had thought that the story about Mbappe possibly dating a dude was just silly slander, kind of like the deal with Macron’s wife: a woman with somewhat harder features that people whisper is secretly a man.
Found out earlier this week that the big question is whether they are dating or not, not the transgender part. It’s actually settled that it’s a dude. (“Transgender Woman” is just another word for “man”). A man very convincingly pretending to be a woman, but still a man.
Before I found that out, though I hate both sides because I’m an England fan, I was leaning towards rooting for Argentina because of it being Messi’s last WC. Once I found out about the pretend girlfriend and how the Argentines aren’t afraid to ridicule Mbappe over it, I decided that I was definitely rooting for Argentina today.
Gotta love the Argentines for being so based.
Hard to say who will win today.
I understand that the French team has been affected by a respiratory virus, so there is that.
Most likely the result will be affected by some piece of amazing luck, an incredible save by a goalkeeper, a piece of individual genius, or an atrocious refereeing decision. That is how it usually goes.
Mbappe is by no means unstoppable. Like many top soccer stars he is a bit of a flat-track bully and prospers when he can use his exceptional speed against inferior opposition.
Messi is now 35 years old, and well past his best, but still capable of flashes of genius.
My suspicion is that neither player will play a major role in today's game, but I would love to be wrong.
It is a good day to be a Paris Saint-Germain fan, because you know that one of your players is going to be a World Cup winner today.Replies: @JR Ewing, @Ghost of Bull Moose
Back in 1998 when France won the WC, there were a handful of players who played for Arsenal and the joke in England was, “Arsenal win the World Cup!”
Funny enough, Thierry Henry wasn’t one of them, he only went there the next spring.
Your world is crumbling meanwhile.Replies: @IHTG, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @JimDandy, @bomag, @Reg Cæsar, @Stan Adams, @Truth, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @meh
Opiates? Maybe so.
Maybe, though, it’s simply a human thing to want at least some enjoyment as we slide into the abyss. Or maybe you have no guilty pleasures. Oh, well, too bad for you.
Now where’s my corkscrew? It was around here somewhere.
Your world is crumbling meanwhile.Replies: @IHTG, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @JimDandy, @bomag, @Reg Cæsar, @Stan Adams, @Truth, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @meh
And while you’re at it, beautiful sunrises and great literature. Thank god for this hairshirt. Best investment I ever made.
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Movies and sport are a window into our crumbling world. They highlight what is celebrated, and suggest some concerns.
Movies give us female warriors; gay life coaches.
Sports give us Africans of singular ability on top of a system built and maintained by Europeans.
Soccer is the most corrupt sport in the world due to the rotten FIFA. The game will have two minute or so of meaningful action in between lots of passing. That makes it very good for napping. Having said that I do enjoy briefly watching it for the pleasure of making fun of all those “manly” men and their very time consuming stylized hairdos. They also like their tattoos, which makes no sense given skin is the largest organ in the body. Since soccer players wind up with beautiful women, guess I can’t call their poofy hair and artsy tats gay. Having said all that I will root for the white Argentine team, while not watching the actual game. I don’t need the nap.
Tattoos are just this big shining bright indicator of low-IQ, high time preference, stupidity, vapidity and degeneracy.
No surprise they have become omnipresent as the core pillars of civilization--borders, eugenic fertility, rule-of-law--have been attacked and kicked away and we slump into the muck.
A vivid reflection in the proles, of the ugliness of the ideas our "elites" have imposed.Replies: @Dumbo
The match will be cagey and low scoring.
Lots of yellow cards and bone crunching tackles.
There are now 5 substitutions available. The Argentines can take turns fouling Greizmann, Mbappe or Giroud and the manager can substitute out the guys who get yellow cards.
I suspect Messi will keep quiet during the match. Then score a surprise goal.
1-1 at end of second half. winning Goal in the last minute of injury time or in extra time.
I’d cynically use the 5 subs to foul and gather as many yellow cards as possible rotate them out before the reds are a possibility.
I wonder if there is a study on whether winning or losing causes more carbecues in Europe by North Africans.
Musk is kindly providing live coverage of World Cup final.
Argentina looking good early, hope France isn’t playing rope-a-dope on grass to run Messi and co. into exhaustion.
Who put the Mbap in the Mbap-mbap-mbap-mbap-mbappé,
Who put the ram in the rama lama ding dong?
France looks significantly taller than Argentina at most positions, which gives them an incentive to get the ball up and in the air around the goal.
Your world is crumbling meanwhile.Replies: @IHTG, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @JimDandy, @bomag, @Reg Cæsar, @Stan Adams, @Truth, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @meh
Yawn. And what have you done about the Jew who is teaching your child evolution, or aborting your other child’s child?
Steve probably accomplishes as much good in an average weekend than you have in your entire career. Let him watch a damn ball game!
Would have liked the earlier prediction to have been posted in real time there editor.
One annoying thing about the commentators on US TV is that they do not read out the names of players playing the ball. It’s so fucking unprofessional.
Argentina just wants this more.
You can see it in the way their feet are constantly moving vs. France kind of lollygagging.
The long-legged French should be able to chew up ground no sweat.
Beautiful touch from DiMaria to finish that second goal.
Steve Sailer should write on Haaland. Norway has now the best chess player and the best soccer player. If Haaland was black they would say no white guy can be that good.
That second goal by Argentina vs France
was the most exciting soccer goal I think I’ve ever seen. And that’s saying so very little. 😜
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Obligatory off-topic Ukraine post:
Haha, such a witty ditty.
Despite being European, I hate football and I have never seen a match to the end in my life. But, I learned from an Argentinian friend who would not go out for a dinner with friends during matches because "Argentina needs him in front of the TV to win" that Mbappe is supposedly dating transwoman Ines Rau.
https://www.nationalworld.com/news/people/who-is-kylian-mbappes-girlfriend-france-player-ines-rau-are-they-still-together-who-is-rose-bertram-3948964
https://sportsbrief.com/football/paris-saint-germain/22936-psg-star-mbappe-reportedly-dating-trans-model-ines-rau-transgender-woman-playboy-cover/Replies: @Anon
I was wondering why Mr Sailer was not exploiting the trannie angle.
Let's just celebrate Mr. Sailer for providing interesting content on a daily basis.Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
Steve – any thoughts on the penalty shootout?
Good guys win despite FIFA’s attempts to hand the title to Camp des Saints FC with weak penalty calls.
“Dad, who won?”
“We all did son….we all did.”
Argentina beats “France.”
I would have cheered proudly for the Frogs, if I had seen even two actual Frenchman on the field. Good for Argentina, and to hell with the immivasion.
Great game though, the best WC Final possibly ever. Predictably, the South Americans cried after becoming world champs.Replies: @S Johnson
All the Negroes in the World… didn’t help France this time.
Blacks in American cities : bang bang ratataat bang bang
Blacks in football penalties : I can’t shooot
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Settle down, Foxy, you ain’t doin’ S- about it either.
I also used the No True Frenchman argument for picking a side today. I’m glad now that The Washington Post drew lots of attention to Argentina’s lack of blackness.
Congratulations to Fox for giving us John Strong, whose call of the winning PK was one word: “YES”
Then he let the pictures speak, like Vin Scully would.
British announcer’s call: “Montiel the Dangerman has brought the World Cup to Argentina and look at the tattoo on his shoulder, says it all really, the man who grew up in dire poverty and left Buenos Aires at age 16 because his family needed the money, he’s removed his kit and and is now sobbing, as am I”
The more I think about it, British announcers are just like Howard Cosell.
First final I’ve ever watched, quite exciting, but sometimes baffling as well. The rules seem a bit arbitrary. Glad Argentina won.
I believe there is one Spaniard out there.
Was that really a “French” team ?
Argentina winners 2022,1986 (M and M : Messi, Maradona)
2022 ÷ 1986 = 1.018126888218
greatly favored by 12 after 3rd decimal, and 3, 3 goals. great Leo Messi ought to thank Saint Michael the beloved archangel.
France winners 1858!!!
MAKE SPORT, NOT WAR!
Yet another victory for US culture, as the Argentinian skipper was named after Lionel Richie by his parents who were big fans of the musician.
https://twitter.com/dietwokehead/status/1604540626430828546?t=18c55oEenqO1zGib3cJNZQ&s=19
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/kylian-mbapp-net-worth-skyrocket-184017160.html
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I don’t care about soccer, which is not just a game but a boring one. (To watch on TV, playing is another thing entirely.)
But I do care about the West. So given a choice, I plump for the white guys–the Argentines.
Only to spare us from the fusillade of articles claiming the “French” winning proves how wonderful and beneficial–and just wonderful!–immigration is in turning France into a diverse multicultural
sewerutopia–all boring away like the nasty little termites they are at what little border protection will Europe has left, preventing a black wave of destruction upon the West.~~
Always remember about the immigration shills: they are absolute sociopaths.
Nothing is preventing them from living with whatever “diversity” they want. All their “immigration!” cant is about preventing you–you dumb deplorable white guy–from living as you want.
Intense vile sociopathy–directed at you. Never forget.
I would hope someone of your intelligence would realize it's not the game, it's you.
I don't find baseball or cricket or hockey very interesting, but it's because I don't understand them at a deep level. It's on me. Millions of people who do understand these sports think they're fascinating.This forum has a lot of autistic perspectives, meaning, lots of folks with narrow viewpoints who don't understand others' minds at all. This especially comes out when the topic is soccer.
Ice-water in veins seems to have determined the outcome.
So, minutes ago my wife happened to be watching the final on the monolith in our living room, and I walked into the room and happened to see the entire championship of world international football in the year 2022 being determined by one kick.
One man got to kick a ball toward one other man.
The goalie couldn’t block the ball from going into the big net, so the entire world championship of football in the year 2022 was decided by that one kick in that moment that I happened to walk into our living room.
Pathetic nonsense.
Even the highlights are boring. Are they just playing to draw a penalty shot? It’s like watching a billiard’s match where player use ball in hand to force his opponent into a 3 foul loss.
Deciding in a shootout is never satisfying. At least in hockey the attacker on a shootout must skate up ice and try to beat the goalie with a move. And they have the good sense to abandon the practice in playoff.
Argentina fielded a good player called Alex MacAllister.
That’s the closest the Scots will ever get to the World Cup. Relish it jock.
Argentina even fielded a player called MacAllister. Up teh Scots!
Keep in mind that it only went to penalty kicks because Mbappe tied the game 3-3 with a penalty kick that counted the same as any other goal, which is ridiculous. Yes, soccer has some issues. But in this case, at least, the dumb penalty kick shootout to decide the game offset the dumb in-game penalty kick.
But anyway, good guys win, blacks wilt under the pressure again, and we don't have to worry about this crap for four more years. By which time France will probably be living under a Muslim caliphate and Germany will be a Muslim infested wasteland, with intermittent electrical power and its industries all gone, thanks to entirely self-inflicted wounds.Replies: @Wilkey, @The Wild Geese Howard, @showmethereal, @Jonathan Mason
Thank you for your prompt reply and explanation. I did not witness the equally-stupid-sounding lead-up to what I saw.
I played soccer in school — because I was a good runner and I loved the play. I do not hate the game itself; I am just sure some changes would improve the top level, just as I am sure modifications could make Major League Baseball better.
So, Steve, are you also part of the national propaganda / gas-lighting campaign to make people care about soccer or to make them believe they already do care? I remember a time, not that long ago, when the World Cup would take place – somewhere – and it go almost completely unremarked upon in America. Now they’re trying really hard to shove it in our face. I guess it’s part of our assimilation with the Borg. We must all kick the same ball.
Kissinger: It's Time For Negotiated Peace In Ukraine To Avoid World WarBut... but... what could be more glorious for Americans than to die for Ukraine's right to oppress the Donbas?
Every four years for decades there would be some Greatest Generation, Silent Generation or Boomer reactionary in the local newspaper, local TV station, or even on NPR and PBS, complaining about soccer, as the country got browner, a fact which was unrelated, but which they linked in their minds anyway, whilst also being too much of an anti-racist, or just too afraid, to complain about. Make those new immigrant brown people stop watching soccer and watch NFL instead! Problem solved!
Meanwhile, it wasn't soccer that ruined America, it was (((America))) that ruined soccer -- when the Berlin Wall came down and Neoliberalism triumphed and soccer (and rugby and cricket and other sports) were (((Americanized))) and turned into a purely commercialized sportsball "product." And these same (((oligarchs))) who took over American sportsball and finally World sportsball, have got you all scapegoating each other about liking or watching the "wrong" sports.
Conservatives and reactionaries are hopelessly stupid and useless and easily distracted complainers and do-nothings. "Help! Help! They're talking about soccer again! It's a conspiracy to distract me!" ...they cry out, as they are thereby distracted.Replies: @Mr. Anon
Wouldn’t agree. Some other sports have also penalty-shootout (I think water polo and handball). Also, although I don’t care too much for Wikipedia, I agree with the last sentence:
Nobody denies that penalty kick shootouts are high pressure and unpredictable. The point is that it's a ridiculous way to determine what is heavily promoted as the most important event in sports in the world. It'd be one thing if it was rare, but it happens way too often in important games.
I was permanently turned off soccer as a kid during the '94 World Cup in the US when the final was determined by PKs when Italy's Roberto Baggio blew it by sailing the kick over the goal. Even as a kid it seemed like a stupid way to decide the championship.Replies: @JR Ewing, @showmethereal
Yeah, but at least the European team won.
Congratulations to Argentina for their victory against Africa, but what a game!
Impossible to know who would win until the last minute.
Thanks, Messi. The whitest team won.
So very very glad the guy every kid knew dated a tranny lost! And Messi was fantastic.
Polish commentator Anon2 should arrive any time now to tell us to forget Messi and Mbappe and that the most important people today were the Polish referee and some Argentine player who has one Polish ancestor.
France died by shootout in ’06, too. I was angry that time, but it was fun seeing Macron sad today.
I guess you can take the girl out of Europe, but you can’t take Europe out of the girl.
https://youtu.be/XF_95_RxncM
*It's still fall now, here, for 49 more hours.
Messi and Argentina won, but Messi would probably gratefully concede the title of biggest current football superstar to Mbappe.
The locker room talk at PSG for their first training session in just a few days time are gonna be real interesting. Messi might very just just announce his retirement – he has nothing left to prove, literally.
The interesting facet of football at the top level is the interplay between club and country – teammates one moment, enemies the next, with very real one-on-one battles. And it was very evident at this World Cup, e.g. Croatia’s Modric vs Brazil’s Casemiro (partners for a long time at Real Madrid), France’s Lloris vs England’s Kane (goalkeeper vs striker from Tottenham).
This World Cup has actually been pretty good. Players are in mid-season form and fitness, and it feels the games are going at a faster pace compared to previous World Cups in June when the players are exhausted after long club seasons (usually in Europe, especially for the stars), and just trying to conserve their bodies from injury for a whole tourney.
Hard to say who will win today.
I understand that the French team has been affected by a respiratory virus, so there is that.
Most likely the result will be affected by some piece of amazing luck, an incredible save by a goalkeeper, a piece of individual genius, or an atrocious refereeing decision. That is how it usually goes.
Mbappe is by no means unstoppable. Like many top soccer stars he is a bit of a flat-track bully and prospers when he can use his exceptional speed against inferior opposition.
Messi is now 35 years old, and well past his best, but still capable of flashes of genius.
My suspicion is that neither player will play a major role in today's game, but I would love to be wrong.
It is a good day to be a Paris Saint-Germain fan, because you know that one of your players is going to be a World Cup winner today.Replies: @JR Ewing, @Ghost of Bull Moose
Well, you were right about the big save anyway.
And I checked – PSG’s next game is on 21 Dec!
I think the PSG coach will cut them some slack. Neymar should be well-rested…
I suppose we now have the answer to the Messi vs. Ronaldo argument, albeit indirectly.
If he were Brazilian, he'd easily have 2 WCs under his belt.Replies: @showmethereal
On the flip side Messi is better than Maradonna because he scores more than Diego -- while doing many of the things Diego did.... Now winning the World Cup cements that. To prove the point about debating overall player vs just a goal scorer- nobody puts Cristiano Ronaldo on Diego's level...Replies: @Thomasina
What do you call an Italian who speaks Spanish and thinks he is British? An Argentine. The Argies are every other South American’s least favorite South Americans.
LOL. True to some degree. Humans grow like trees, rings upon rings. (This truly is what I believe.) Europe remains inside the girl, even though there is an American (diamond) ring on the outside. In our case this is positive, because the European happens to be Hungarian.
The French team makes me think of the nazi propaganda films during WW2 showing Cameroonian troops goofing around on some training ground.
“Here’s the mighty French army preparing to fight for the homeland! These sons of France will surely fight to the last man to defend their republic and the honor of French women and children!”
Lots of yellow cards and bone crunching tackles.
There are now 5 substitutions available. The Argentines can take turns fouling Greizmann, Mbappe or Giroud and the manager can substitute out the guys who get yellow cards.
I suspect Messi will keep quiet during the match. Then score a surprise goal.
1-1 at end of second half. winning Goal in the last minute of injury time or in extra time.
I'd cynically use the 5 subs to foul and gather as many yellow cards as possible rotate them out before the reds are a possibility.Replies: @David Jones, @Wokechoke, @Marquis, @Cutler
I doubt if anyone will be following your market tips.
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Maybe Trump will sell some NFTs to commemorate the event.
Mbappé’s dad seems to have been very focused on breeding successful soccer players. He adopted another promising young African player whose dad died in order to give him a shot in the European leagues. It’s probably not an exaggeration to say he would have chosen his athlete wife on the likelihood that she’d give birth to similarly athletic sons.
He would also somehow work Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth into this.
Match summary: in a closely contested game between an African and European team, the European team won in a penalty shootout.
Did they, or did “Walser?”
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/kylian-mbapp-net-worth-skyrocket-184017160.html
Another victory for a Catholic country. France would have qualified on that front before, but now it’s a toss up between Muslim and Pentecostalist, I imagine.
Of the seven subs, some sources say Camavinga is Muslim (though he is from Congo, which has not a lot of Muslims). Moreover, the subs fofana and Konate are Muslim (both from mali so that makes sense)
The cousin playing in Italy never needed it to become a top division regular.
His father is a lot shorter than the grown up Messi.
Basically Messi is no better than those athletes on Steroids - worse he has got a permanent advantage from it. A massive scam in plain sight.Replies: @Anon
While it was banned before that, NBA didn’t test for HGH until 2015. They gave the athletes a few years warning too.
https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2015/04/lebron_james_on_new_nba_hgh_te.html
Well not so much the kick, but the reason for it. A handball? Because a guy is jumping in the air and the ball happens to bounce off his arm? He made no attempt at all to stop the ball with his hands. Ok, maybe give possession back to the other team, but to allow a penalty kick, the most likely goal in all of soccer? It’s an absurd rule.
But anyway, good guys win, blacks wilt under the pressure again, and we don’t have to worry about this crap for four more years. By which time France will probably be living under a Muslim caliphate and Germany will be a Muslim infested wasteland, with intermittent electrical power and its industries all gone, thanks to entirely self-inflicted wounds.
France's team is blacker than the blackest of American football teams. If I were a Frenchman I wouldn't be cheering for my country with that team on the field - I would be weeping for its future. And I would be thrilled that they had ultimately lost.Replies: @Inverness
And I laugh at people like you guys calling all those mixed Argentine players "white" now. LOL. They are "good guys". LOL. When they fought the British over the Falklands your type had every dirty name to call them. You guys are hilarious.Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
However if you are a defender in the penalty area and your arm is extended away from your body and the ball hits your arm and your team derives some advantage from this, then usually it is a PK unless there are some extenuating circumstances (ball deflected off a teammate, or you are lying on the ground supporting yourself with your arm, hands are positioned to protect your genitals.)
The law might seem a bit favorable to the attacking side, but then again you can rest assured that the defensive team are fully knowledgeable of every single kind of underhand trick and piece of skullduggery that they might use to their own benefit.
Soccer is a proxy for further minority worship.
Comments against soccer are ridiculous. I don’t care much about any sport, BUT:
Let’s admit it: the only reason why Americans don’t like soccer it’s because it’s a rare sport where they don’t dominate. That’s the only reason. It’s no more nor less ridiculous than any other sport.
Basketball is a much more ridiculous sport, requiring players to be 6 feet tall and having an exaggerated number of points.
Soccer is pretty similar to hockey and handball, only hockey is too fast and the puck too small to be seen clearly. But at least it’s fun. Handball is too boring.
Baseball is good but it can drag too long. American “football” is mostly teams rearranging their positions after a few seconds of action.
Yeah the penalty kick are a bit stupid, but it’s no more ridiculous than, say, the foul shots in basketball.
All sports are a bit silly, with their random rules. But there’s a reason why soccer is the most popular sport in the world. Get over it.
Americans like soccer just fine. We don't get hysterical about it. That is what is seen as a shortcoming by prigs in Europe, but then again, they literally die for the sport, as seen at Juventus, Hillsborough, etc. So their opinion is worthless.Replies: @Anonymous
Time zones, jet lag… There is six hours difference between Buenos Aires and Doha. Is that the biggest difference between World Cup winner and site other than 2002, when Yokohama was the maximum 12 hours from Rio and São Paulo? In South Africa, Europe was an hour or two off, South America five hours. Brazil’s win over host Sweden in 1958 was the the only trans-Atlantic championship until Germany broke Europe’s drought in Brazil in 2014. (2002 was trans-Pacific.)
Latitude and longitude each present its own time-keeping challenge to large nations. “Tall” countries such as Argentina and Chile have to decide about daylight savings, unless, like Somalia, they are near the Equator. “Prone” countries, e.g. Indonesia and Australia, need multiple time zones.
Relatively “square” and temperate-zone lands have both issues. China (ca. 33°×61°) is extreme, with one time zone and no DST. The US (ca. 53°×112°) boast six time zones and constant bickering over DST. Canada also has six– or five-and-a-half, if you prefer– time zones, and, believe it or not, Yukon ditched standard time:
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2022/11/02/daylight-saving-time-heres-when-the-clocks-change-in-toronto-this-weekend.html
The locker room talk at PSG for their first training session in just a few days time are gonna be real interesting. Messi might very just just announce his retirement - he has nothing left to prove, literally.
The interesting facet of football at the top level is the interplay between club and country - teammates one moment, enemies the next, with very real one-on-one battles. And it was very evident at this World Cup, e.g. Croatia's Modric vs Brazil's Casemiro (partners for a long time at Real Madrid), France's Lloris vs England's Kane (goalkeeper vs striker from Tottenham).
This World Cup has actually been pretty good. Players are in mid-season form and fitness, and it feels the games are going at a faster pace compared to previous World Cups in June when the players are exhausted after long club seasons (usually in Europe, especially for the stars), and just trying to conserve their bodies from injury for a whole tourney.Replies: @Wokechoke
The Arabs have been good hosts.
Lots of yellow cards and bone crunching tackles.
There are now 5 substitutions available. The Argentines can take turns fouling Greizmann, Mbappe or Giroud and the manager can substitute out the guys who get yellow cards.
I suspect Messi will keep quiet during the match. Then score a surprise goal.
1-1 at end of second half. winning Goal in the last minute of injury time or in extra time.
I'd cynically use the 5 subs to foul and gather as many yellow cards as possible rotate them out before the reds are a possibility.Replies: @David Jones, @Wokechoke, @Marquis, @Cutler
I submitted this for a post before the match started. THx editor!
So, here’s a continental assessment:
North America, etc.
4 entrants, 3 knocked out in group stage, 1 knocked out in round of 16
South America
4 entrants, 2 knocked out in group stage, 1 knocked out in quarterfinals, 1 wins the whole thing
Africa
5 entrants, 3 knocked out in group stage, 1 knocked out in round of 16, 1 knocked out in semifinals and then lost third-place match
Asia, etc.
6 entrants, 3 knocked out in group stage, 3 knocked out in round of 16
Europe
13 entrants, 5 knocked out in group stage, 3 knocked out in round of 16, 3 knocked out in quarterfinals, 1 knocked out in semifinals, but wins third place, 1 lost in final
The North American region was the worst.
But there is one valid criticism, about penalty kicks. Too many players falling (or pretending to be hit) inside the box in order to get penalty kicks. This should be changed somehow. Perhaps penalty kick goals should count only as half a goal. Or 1 point, and 2 points for a “full” goal.
Or better: no penalty kicks, but just give a red card and expel ANY player who makes a foul inside the box. This way, few would do it. But perhaps some players would still dive. So, I don’t know. Maybe the fake divers should get a red card too.
That's the closest the Scots will ever get to the World Cup. Relish it jock.Replies: @(((They))) Live, @Wilkey
He’s Irish
IT departments all across the Anglosphere will shut down for a few weeks next* fall:
*It’s still fall now, here, for 49 more hours.
Has anyone analysed whether black players score earlier in the game than white players? Black players seem to run out of energy earlier, and tend to f-up the penalties.
Steve probably accomplishes as much good in an average weekend than you have in your entire career. Let him watch a damn ball game!Replies: @Renard
Straight to the ad hominem. Let me guess, it’s because you have no argument?
Never happened, but you don’t believe in evolution? That’s more than I anticipated.
Never happened, and irrelevant besides.
Aside from the fact that you know absolutely nothing about my career, please fill us in about how waxing rhapsodic about the latest Hollywood propaganda or Sportsball hero “accomplishes good.”
And to meet you halfway, please also tell us what your 2-million-plus words here have ever accomplished.
Was anyone trying to prevent that?
In other words, I'm applying social Darwinism to biological Darwinism.I'm not the one bitching about Steve.Replies: @AnotherDad, @Inverness, @Inverness
Whenever “beautiful sunrises and great literature” are consistently weaponised against our people, they too should be resisted. Examples please.
Congratulations, Argentina!
Why was Messi wearing a negligee for the trophy ceremony?Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
sewerutopia--all boring away like the nasty little termites they are at what little border protection will Europe has left, preventing a black wave of destruction upon the West.~~Always remember about the immigration shills: they are absolute sociopaths.Nothing is preventing them from living with whatever "diversity" they want. All their "immigration!" cant is about preventing you--you dumb deplorable white guy--from living as you want.Intense vile sociopathy--directed at you. Never forget.Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @anon, @showmetherealIt’s on full display if one visits any of the normie soccer sites packed with AWFL goodthinkers that will excoriate anyone who suggests Argentina has defeated Africa.
It’s meant to distract from this:
Kissinger: It’s Time For Negotiated Peace In Ukraine To Avoid World War
But… but… what could be more glorious for Americans than to die for Ukraine’s right to oppress the Donbas?
Impossible to know who would win until the last minute.
Thanks, Messi. The whitest team won.Replies: @Anon
I’m not into soccer but was watching with my kids. Thought it was a boring final, until France catched up. Then I was hooked, and amazed and on tenterhooks until the last penalty.
So very very glad the guy every kid knew dated a tranny lost! And Messi was fantastic.
Black players and missed penalties are now a meme.
Uh… why are the topics of this incidental caliber, when there’s an unprecedented bum-rush of soon to be illegal immigrants from around the world heading for our borders this coming week?
Makes me feel like isteve has cast himself as the the guy calling the tunes for the quartet playing on the deck of a sourly listing Titanic. Bravely playing Chopin while the passengers scream and cry around them. If the complete eradication of our country at the direction of a semi-senile, and perhaps syphilitic old man, is something you are resigned to, could you declare yourself so in a riveting declarative essay? No harm, no foul, but just declare your disinterest.
As it is, posting your observations about soccer and other incidentals, while allegedly 4000 illegal aliens a DAY have been released and allowed to traverse this nation at whim, for at least the past week, with even more shortly to come, looking for all the fun and profit their non-english-speaking, average of 90 IQ’s can generate for them here.
I mean, if that doesn’t really interest you, since you’re a statistics buff, you might remark on how we’ve been allowing what amounts to the population of an average US city on a yearly basis since Biden took office, while not a single new prison, court houses, or hospital in Southern California has been recently built to cope with the historic influx. Since 40% of illegals wind up in California, I would think that might get your attention.
Further, I would think you might be interested since, if you ever have to try any kind of case in civil court, OR if you should have to visit an emergency room due to a car accident, or Covid, you’re going to be waiting a loooooong time. You might even die when you didn’t have to because of it. Have you ever recently tried to get anything done with assorted administrations in Los Angeles? I have, and the unmitigated shitshow due to a backup of cases, is something I’ve never come close to experiencing in the decades I’ve had to deal with them. It seems administrating illegal immigrants equipped with free attorney’s filing bogus civil cases for them, is very time consuming, making it very difficult for regular citizens to get anything done from day to day.
Doesn’t any of this interest you, or are you simply fatalistic about there things?
As this week of immigration is promising to be another historic one that numbers show is effectively a “soft invasion” of this country, have you not even a cursory observation? Or again, might you simply declare yourself resigned to you and your offspring’s fate?
Through all this, though you have a voice, seem to be just a guy who’s just trying to live his life, like that little agreeable fellow who just like to get along in “Blade Runner” who lived in the Bradbury building.
He had a great little life as a semi-solitary tinkerer, but eventually, what he ignored, he had to deal with, when it was too late.
Spoiler Alert: even though he played along, eventually, he didn’t die quietly in bed surrounded by loved ones.
Go outside and look around. It might surprise you to notice it’s getting remarkably intense and unpleasant for regular long-time citizens, trying to stay in Southern California, and it’s looking like 2023 is going to be a hell of a year, driven by unprecedented illegal immigration.
After the political separation of Americans from Rainbows, we need a further separation of the tattooed/normal.
Tattoos are just this big shining bright indicator of low-IQ, high time preference, stupidity, vapidity and degeneracy.
No surprise they have become omnipresent as the core pillars of civilization–borders, eugenic fertility, rule-of-law–have been attacked and kicked away and we slump into the muck.
A vivid reflection in the proles, of the ugliness of the ideas our “elites” have imposed.
Lots of yellow cards and bone crunching tackles.
There are now 5 substitutions available. The Argentines can take turns fouling Greizmann, Mbappe or Giroud and the manager can substitute out the guys who get yellow cards.
I suspect Messi will keep quiet during the match. Then score a surprise goal.
1-1 at end of second half. winning Goal in the last minute of injury time or in extra time.
I'd cynically use the 5 subs to foul and gather as many yellow cards as possible rotate them out before the reds are a possibility.Replies: @David Jones, @Wokechoke, @Marquis, @Cutler
Somehow after only 15 posts yours is only the second worst prediction yet. Amazing!
The European team wins the World Cup final. In a Mendelian sense, anyway…
Blacks in football penalties : I can't shoootReplies: @Marquis, @Bernie
Sailers Law of mass shootings could double for penalty shootouts, too. Amazing.
Your world is crumbling meanwhile.Replies: @IHTG, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @JimDandy, @bomag, @Reg Cæsar, @Stan Adams, @Truth, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @meh
Everybody who reacted negatively to this comment is a toad. Exactly the kind of useless weight we must drop off somewhere.
Water polo and handball are fine games, but they’re niche sports and not considered serious sports of the same stature as soccer, which is promoted as the most important world’s game.
Nobody denies that penalty kick shootouts are high pressure and unpredictable. The point is that it’s a ridiculous way to determine what is heavily promoted as the most important event in sports in the world. It’d be one thing if it was rare, but it happens way too often in important games.
I was permanently turned off soccer as a kid during the ’94 World Cup in the US when the final was determined by PKs when Italy’s Roberto Baggio blew it by sailing the kick over the goal. Even as a kid it seemed like a stupid way to decide the championship.
It was grossly unpopular and dumped a few years later. Turns out that soccer people just like the penalties and they would sit back and play very defensively and slowly and wait for the penalties anyway without risking giving up a goal that would end the game.
The idea of each side giving up a player every 10 minutes is a good compromise, IMO, but no one anywhere in an official position takes that one seriously at all.
Tattoos are just this big shining bright indicator of low-IQ, high time preference, stupidity, vapidity and degeneracy.
No surprise they have become omnipresent as the core pillars of civilization--borders, eugenic fertility, rule-of-law--have been attacked and kicked away and we slump into the muck.
A vivid reflection in the proles, of the ugliness of the ideas our "elites" have imposed.Replies: @Dumbo
It may have been true once, but now almost everybody has tattoos, even (supposedly) smart, high-status people who should know better. Yes, it’s part of the war on beauty/normalcy, but, as it is, it was incredibly successful.
I’d say that tattoos, now, more than an indication of individual degeneration/bad taste, are the marker of social degeneration of an entire society (the former West).
P.S. Is it me, or is iSteve taking even longer than usual to moderate comments?
Seems like the normalization of tattoos has become more widespread than that.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
I hadn’t gotten that. Sure, she’s a particular type. But mainly it’s pretty easy to take unflattering pictures of old people. She’s an old woman now without the soft estrogenic luster in her skin/face. The young Brigitte looks femininely fetching. But she still looks like a normal woman–size and shape. And on my arm; we’d look like an ordinary more-attractive-than-average old couple.
The deal with her as Macron’s wife has always been her age. Marcon at 15 is smitten with his 40 year old teacher. (Wants a roll in the hay–fine–smitten, no.) And at 29 Marcon marries a woman who is 54 and has had three kids with some other dude and is now a barren womb.
That is deeply, deeply, deeply unnatural. In a healthy society, Marcon’s wife would be say 35, pregnant and herding three little kids through the Elysee Palace. The French president not knowing what his penis is actually for is a mirror for the disconnection of the West from basic biological realities. A disconnection that is destroying it.
All said and done- the best final ever.
I liked how by the end of extra time France’s team was completely black except for the goalkeeper. Giroud was sent out still in the first half, Griezmann and that younger player with the Spanish surname in the second, and then another white player whose name I don’t recall in the first half of the extra time. Too bad for France, since, as I seem to recall Sailer suggesting in another blog post, the whiter team is often better at penalty shootouts.
It wouldn't surprise me if there was a biological basis for their terrible performance.Replies: @Meretricious
I hadn’t gotten that. Sure, she’s a particular type. But mainly it’s pretty easy to take unflattering pictures of old people. She’s an old woman now without the soft estrogenic luster in her skin/face. The young Brigitte looks femininely fetching. But she still looks like a normal woman–size and shape. And on my arm; we’d look like an ordinary more-attractive-than-average old couple.
Old Sport, does this really look like a female to you?
I once saw that Messi is more of a first half scorer, that he tends to run out of gas later on in the game, but I don’t remember any details.
Seem plausible that he could come back for the next World Cup at age 39 to come off the bench with 30 minutes left and make stuff happen like Cameroon’s 38-year-old Roger Milla in 1990.
seems like the France coach panicked early, and inexplicably started taking some of his best players out of the game. this left them with few shooters at the end of overtime.
What an incredibly stupid post. The black players, specifically Mbappe, are the only reason France was in a position to lose in penalty shots (triple extra time). He is the first player to record a hat trick (3 goals in a game) in the World Cup in over 56 years. Try understanding a little bit about the subject you are commenting on before you post.
The French team had suffered the flu so a number of players were too weakened to go all the way. I imagine that without any injuries or ill health, the French had the best squad in the tournament.
France was the best African Squad. But Argentina was the best European Squad.
Isn’t that what you did, too?
I take no stance either way, just an interest in the effects. There are thousands of creation stories around the ecumene– Genesis alone offers two. The populations that believe in them survive and grow. Some such stories may have failed in the past, and those peoples disappeared, rendered unfit by them. Darwin’s increasingly appears to belong to this latter group.
In other words, I’m applying social Darwinism to biological Darwinism.
I’m not the one bitching about Steve.
There's nothing about understanding the process of selection--which is just logic applied to reproduction (that which survives and reproduces stays around)--that causes any issues. And nothing about it that impinges on any real understanding of God. (It isn't your job to tell God how to do creation--you're just some pipsqueak, God is God.)
In fact, understanding selection is critical in light of the challenges of the modernity. And Anglos were wrestling with those issues--"how do we keep positive selection pressure going with modernity"--in the early 20th century before time, before the rise of the Jews, their minoritarian diktat and their leftist creationism.
You can have your creationist believer fertility, but if your "lower quality"/less capable believers are outbreeding your capable and productive you are going to have the same sort of dysgenic issues we see across the developed world today.
No, it is actually critical to understand that selection is real, has been going on ... forever, and will continue to go on whether we like it or not. And then take real direct steps to push fertility in the positive--eugenic--direction. Societies, nations, civilization that do that will be the ones that prosper and inherit the future.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Here's another critical part of renard's post:"Aside from the fact that you know absolutely nothing about my career, please fill us in about how waxing rhapsodic about the latest Hollywood propaganda or Sportsball hero “accomplishes good.”Replies: @Reg Cæsar
But then, you clearly don't understand Darwin either.
Here's the most critical part of Renard's post. You ignored it in your reply.
Your world is crumbling meanwhile.Replies: @IHTG, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @JimDandy, @bomag, @Reg Cæsar, @Stan Adams, @Truth, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @meh
It is possible to chew gum and walk at the same time, Mr. Puritan.
Old Sport, does this really look like a female to you?
https://i.iplsc.com/brigitte-macron/000AEUO6RSNVIUTL-C122-F4.jpgReplies: @Reg Cæsar
Looks like Jill Biden coutured by Piet Mondrian.
I could ask you to prove that “Americans don’t like soccer” but you’d have to ignore the millions who put their kids into youth programs, the fans at MLS games and the ratings on Fox for the World Cup, which were quite good.
Americans like soccer just fine. We don’t get hysterical about it. That is what is seen as a shortcoming by prigs in Europe, but then again, they literally die for the sport, as seen at Juventus, Hillsborough, etc. So their opinion is worthless.
…Jim Bouton cultured by Heinrich Himmler.
French coach Deschamps got his excuses in early with the “respiratory infection” story. His younger (overall) and vastly more athletic squad would benefit from a “stretched” match and as Argentina tired in the second half and spaces opened up, the French looked like running riot. Argentina coach Scaloni deserves credit for keeping his nerve and saving the bulk of his substitutions until extra time. A terrific match and in no small part down to the referee: initially I feared he would ruin the game but he allowed it to flow and resisted the temptation to involve video re-examinations. The post-match awards, on the other hand, were cringetastic.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/dec/18/didier-deschamps-claims-illness-affected-france-in-world-cup-final
:)
Well, they did field Giroud, Rabiot, Griezmann, and (half-Spanish) Lloris and Hernandez to start, but then took every single white field player out as France was losing. It was a purely African team on the field at the end, with only white Lloris (half-Spanish) in goal. I though the French coach and legend Deschamps, he of the chiseled abs, was trying to start a race riot. All-Blacks vs All-Whites on the field.
Great game though, the best WC Final possibly ever. Predictably, the South Americans cried after becoming world champs.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/16/celebration-same-sex-marriage-mar-a-lago-00074441
MAGA: Make America Gay Again
Maybe Trump will sell some NFTs to commemorate the event.Replies: @AnotherDad
He’s a macho, macho man.
I’ve been hearing your type belly aching for the past 60 years about soccer being some kind of communist conspiracy (or some kind of conspiracy — the details change over time) to “ruin America’ while doing f-all to do anything about what was actually going wrong with America. Soccer is the American-do-nothing-Reactionary scapegoat.
Every four years for decades there would be some Greatest Generation, Silent Generation or Boomer reactionary in the local newspaper, local TV station, or even on NPR and PBS, complaining about soccer, as the country got browner, a fact which was unrelated, but which they linked in their minds anyway, whilst also being too much of an anti-racist, or just too afraid, to complain about. Make those new immigrant brown people stop watching soccer and watch NFL instead! Problem solved!
Meanwhile, it wasn’t soccer that ruined America, it was (((America))) that ruined soccer — when the Berlin Wall came down and Neoliberalism triumphed and soccer (and rugby and cricket and other sports) were (((Americanized))) and turned into a purely commercialized sportsball “product.” And these same (((oligarchs))) who took over American sportsball and finally World sportsball, have got you all scapegoating each other about liking or watching the “wrong” sports.
Conservatives and reactionaries are hopelessly stupid and useless and easily distracted complainers and do-nothings. “Help! Help! They’re talking about soccer again! It’s a conspiracy to distract me!” …they cry out, as they are thereby distracted.
Your handle is fitting - your comments are......meh.....
sewerutopia--all boring away like the nasty little termites they are at what little border protection will Europe has left, preventing a black wave of destruction upon the West.~~Always remember about the immigration shills: they are absolute sociopaths.Nothing is preventing them from living with whatever "diversity" they want. All their "immigration!" cant is about preventing you--you dumb deplorable white guy--from living as you want.Intense vile sociopathy--directed at you. Never forget.Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @anon, @showmetherealSoccer is boring if you don’t understand it. So is baseball, cricket, basketball, curling etc. – if you don’t understand the game.
I would hope someone of your intelligence would realize it’s not the game, it’s you.
I don’t find baseball or cricket or hockey very interesting, but it’s because I don’t understand them at a deep level. It’s on me. Millions of people who do understand these sports think they’re fascinating.
This forum has a lot of autistic perspectives, meaning, lots of folks with narrow viewpoints who don’t understand others’ minds at all. This especially comes out when the topic is soccer.
I was surprised at the emotion I had for this game,which I had stumbled on by chance. Argentina had lots of white guys,France lots of black guys. So…Go Argentina!!
Messi didn’t cry.
In other words, I'm applying social Darwinism to biological Darwinism.I'm not the one bitching about Steve.Replies: @AnotherDad, @Inverness, @Inverness
Cute. More accurately you’re actually applying selection theory to modernity and liberal creationism.
There’s nothing about understanding the process of selection–which is just logic applied to reproduction (that which survives and reproduces stays around)–that causes any issues. And nothing about it that impinges on any real understanding of God. (It isn’t your job to tell God how to do creation–you’re just some pipsqueak, God is God.)
In fact, understanding selection is critical in light of the challenges of the modernity. And Anglos were wrestling with those issues–“how do we keep positive selection pressure going with modernity”–in the early 20th century before time, before the rise of the Jews, their minoritarian diktat and their leftist creationism.
You can have your creationist believer fertility, but if your “lower quality”/less capable believers are outbreeding your capable and productive you are going to have the same sort of dysgenic issues we see across the developed world today.
No, it is actually critical to understand that selection is real, has been going on … forever, and will continue to go on whether we like it or not. And then take real direct steps to push fertility in the positive–eugenic–direction. Societies, nations, civilization that do that will be the ones that prosper and inherit the future.
Musk's buddies the Collinses are on the case:New kids on the block: geeky, wealthy, entrepreneurial pro-natalism activistsSecular Amish!
One group of Americans has the highest fertility in the world. It doubles every 20 years.
Louis March, who wrote that, used the D-word in this:Much of this applies to Russia as well. Check out the nice coda March tacks onto to this piece:Thailand enlists social media influencers to keep from running out of childrenIf you relate to March, here is a list of further articles, and a podcast interview:
https://ruthinstitute.org/dr-j-show/extinction-is-not-too-strong-a-word/
In other words, I'm applying social Darwinism to biological Darwinism.I'm not the one bitching about Steve.Replies: @AnotherDad, @Inverness, @Inverness
The phrase doesnt mean what you think it means.
But then, you clearly don’t understand Darwin either.
Here’s another critical part of renard’s post:
“Aside from the fact that you know absolutely nothing about my career, please fill us in about how waxing rhapsodic about the latest Hollywood propaganda or Sportsball hero “accomplishes good.”
We know nothing about his career or ideas or his suggested course of action (or even "their" "gender") because he has not told us. Renard just slips into Steve's henhouse, steals an egg, and poops. That's the definition of trolling.
Steve has been writing for three decades. Nobody ever claimed his sports analysis or movie reviews moves mountains. (Though much of his "lying eyes" sports coverage is an opening for HBD into previously closed minds.) Go to https://www.unz.com/isteve/ and click on TOPICS/CATEGORIES right under the Twitter bird-- there are almost 50 to choose from.
Barging into a forum announcing "Stop having fun! Obsess on my obsessions!" is rude and disrespectful. Add something, or go away.Replies: @Inverness
But anyway, good guys win, blacks wilt under the pressure again, and we don't have to worry about this crap for four more years. By which time France will probably be living under a Muslim caliphate and Germany will be a Muslim infested wasteland, with intermittent electrical power and its industries all gone, thanks to entirely self-inflicted wounds.Replies: @Wilkey, @The Wild Geese Howard, @showmethereal, @Jonathan Mason
That’s what I said when they started to repair Notre Dame after the fire – just convert it to a mosque now and save themselves the trouble later.
France’s team is blacker than the blackest of American football teams. If I were a Frenchman I wouldn’t be cheering for my country with that team on the field – I would be weeping for its future. And I would be thrilled that they had ultimately lost.
In other words, I'm applying social Darwinism to biological Darwinism.I'm not the one bitching about Steve.Replies: @AnotherDad, @Inverness, @Inverness
The phrase doesnt mean what you think it means.
But then, you clearly don’t understand Darwin either.
Here’s the most critical part of Renard’s post. You ignored it in your reply.
France's team is blacker than the blackest of American football teams. If I were a Frenchman I wouldn't be cheering for my country with that team on the field - I would be weeping for its future. And I would be thrilled that they had ultimately lost.Replies: @Inverness
I’d be weeping for its present.
It has no future.
That's the closest the Scots will ever get to the World Cup. Relish it jock.Replies: @(((They))) Live, @Wilkey
According to Alex, the surname Mac Allister is actually Irish, though he has some Scots ancestry, as well. His Mac Allister ancestors settled in Argentina in 1865.
There is actually a Welsh-speaking colony, Y Wladfa, in southern Argentina, in Patagonia, that was established in that same year. During the Falklands War one Argentine solider detained by British troops was a Welsh speaker from that colony.
I’m thinking maybe the American Civil War raging at the time may be part of what encouraged both groups to settle in Argentina rather than America. Canada was still a UK territory, so they may have wanted to settle some place out of UK control, as well.
Native languages like Welsh & Gaelic were driven into near extinction by UK policies of the time.
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it was in limbo the entire match. I did get the score draw at full time.
Even better then. That’s as close as the Scots get.
There was a lot of mining in the Argentine at the time. Silver prospecting.
Mbappe is a rare combination of quick wits with a very athletic body, he is able to see gaps and then immediately take shots like nobody else.
https://icdn.football-espana.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Lionel-Messi-and-Kylian-Mbappe.jpegReplies: @Altai, @showmethereal
No – he left for free. He was was supposed to stay at Barcelona… The new president called him and said “we can’t afford you anymore”. What hurt was that he agreed to take less salary and defer more money until the team was able get back on better terms… That’s why he broke down in tears at the press conference…. He wasn’t supposed to leave.
He was a child…. Not an adult
Funny enough, Thierry Henry wasn't one of them, he only went there the next spring.Replies: @showmethereal
Honestly though that is a major thing in football. When players play together all the time at the same club – it helps when they play for national sides. True of the old Brazil teams (back when they all played at clubs in Brazil) that won 3 out of 4…. Same with Germany and Italy… And like you said France. The Spain side from 2010 was almost all Barcelona and Real Madrid. It definitely made a difference then too. It’s not always a guarantee of a win – but it helps.
There's nothing about understanding the process of selection--which is just logic applied to reproduction (that which survives and reproduces stays around)--that causes any issues. And nothing about it that impinges on any real understanding of God. (It isn't your job to tell God how to do creation--you're just some pipsqueak, God is God.)
In fact, understanding selection is critical in light of the challenges of the modernity. And Anglos were wrestling with those issues--"how do we keep positive selection pressure going with modernity"--in the early 20th century before time, before the rise of the Jews, their minoritarian diktat and their leftist creationism.
You can have your creationist believer fertility, but if your "lower quality"/less capable believers are outbreeding your capable and productive you are going to have the same sort of dysgenic issues we see across the developed world today.
No, it is actually critical to understand that selection is real, has been going on ... forever, and will continue to go on whether we like it or not. And then take real direct steps to push fertility in the positive--eugenic--direction. Societies, nations, civilization that do that will be the ones that prosper and inherit the future.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Rome fell, and Christendom rebounded from her ashes. The biggest selective pressure would have been the Black Death, when anyone who, or whose parents, couldn’t outthink a rat didn’t live. Similar forces acted on colonial America, but while Jamestown was far deadlier than Plymouth, it was the latter which benefited more. Must’ve been those ten kids per family! (Cf. DH Fischer)
Musk’s buddies the Collinses are on the case:
New kids on the block: geeky, wealthy, entrepreneurial pro-natalism activists
Secular Amish!
One group of Americans has the highest fertility in the world. It doubles every 20 years.
Louis March, who wrote that, used the D-word in this:
Much of this applies to Russia as well. Check out the nice coda March tacks onto to this piece:
Thailand enlists social media influencers to keep from running out of children
If you relate to March, here is a list of further articles, and a podcast interview:
https://ruthinstitute.org/dr-j-show/extinction-is-not-too-strong-a-word/
Ronaldo is from Portugal, which is a terrific little country, but at 10 or 11 million people they’ll never have the depth of talent larger countries do.
If he were Brazilian, he’d easily have 2 WCs under his belt.
But anyway, good guys win, blacks wilt under the pressure again, and we don't have to worry about this crap for four more years. By which time France will probably be living under a Muslim caliphate and Germany will be a Muslim infested wasteland, with intermittent electrical power and its industries all gone, thanks to entirely self-inflicted wounds.Replies: @Wilkey, @The Wild Geese Howard, @showmethereal, @Jonathan Mason
In a rare case of poetic justice, the player who received that penalty scored the winning penalty kick for Argentina.
Who put the ram in the rama lama ding dong?Replies: @Russ
I subsequently noticed that #13 for France is Fofana. Where’s Shirley Ellis with “The Name Game” when you need her? Then again: Perhaps that’s what the attendees were singing in the stands for all I know.
https://thesporting.blog/blog/the-macallisters-from-fife-to-buenos-aires
Mac as a prefix is generally 2/3 Scots. Mc tending to be 2/3 Irish. Fife claim the family ancestry though.
Of course he ends up living in Brighton just south of London anyway. He’s probably going to contracted to Tottenham or Arsenal soon enough.
“Hungarian beauty” contains a superfluous adjective. Here’s to good taste.
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I’m not making excuses by the way, but
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/dec/18/didier-deschamps-claims-illness-affected-france-in-world-cup-final
🙂
France was the best African Squad. But Argentina was the best European Squad.
If I recall correctly during the Falklands War British units (or a Welsh Guards unit at least) were told something to the effect, “Don’t speak sensitive information on the radios thinking it won’t be understood”.
I also come from a non soccer dominated country ànd roll my eyes in exasperation at how so many Americans feel the need to tell others how they should run their affairs including how they should organise their sports
Soccer seems to have done pretty well for itself without any American imput
The shroud the emir of Qatar put on Messi was total crap that ruined the photos of him hoisting the WC trophy overhead as well as the subsequent team photos.
What a bonehead move to ruin an all-time great moment.
Everything else ran well because Western expats outnumber the Qataris 11 to 1.
The Polish ref did do pretty well to let them play, and at least his weak calls were even between the sides.
Americans like soccer just fine. We don't get hysterical about it. That is what is seen as a shortcoming by prigs in Europe, but then again, they literally die for the sport, as seen at Juventus, Hillsborough, etc. So their opinion is worthless.Replies: @Anonymous
A lot of American parents treat soccer as a safe activity for their kids to enroll in at a young age and run around and get some exercise before they start doing “real” sports when they’re a bit older. They kind of treat it like karate lessons, which is also something a lot of American parents enroll their kids in as an after school activity when they’re quite young but generally don’t stick with as they get bigger and older.
Soccer has its flaws – penalty kicks are too punitive relative to the often dubious fouls, it’s a little too difficult to score (although today was 3-3), having a PK shootout decide things, the diving (although this has improved a bit) – but when you sit down to watch it, you can at least expect to see… an athletic contest.
Our football?
Twelve minutes of action and three hours of standing around and commercial after commercial after commercial. The stoppages and abundance of advertising make it nearly unwatchable. That’s why it’s ‘Murica’s game: It’s an opportunity to jam us up with even more visual spam (commercials).
Are tattoos just a Western thing?
Seems like the normalization of tattoos has become more widespread than that.
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Every four years for decades there would be some Greatest Generation, Silent Generation or Boomer reactionary in the local newspaper, local TV station, or even on NPR and PBS, complaining about soccer, as the country got browner, a fact which was unrelated, but which they linked in their minds anyway, whilst also being too much of an anti-racist, or just too afraid, to complain about. Make those new immigrant brown people stop watching soccer and watch NFL instead! Problem solved!
Meanwhile, it wasn't soccer that ruined America, it was (((America))) that ruined soccer -- when the Berlin Wall came down and Neoliberalism triumphed and soccer (and rugby and cricket and other sports) were (((Americanized))) and turned into a purely commercialized sportsball "product." And these same (((oligarchs))) who took over American sportsball and finally World sportsball, have got you all scapegoating each other about liking or watching the "wrong" sports.
Conservatives and reactionaries are hopelessly stupid and useless and easily distracted complainers and do-nothings. "Help! Help! They're talking about soccer again! It's a conspiracy to distract me!" ...they cry out, as they are thereby distracted.Replies: @Mr. Anon
I didn’t say any of that, you a**hat. I simply pointed out that it’s popularity among traditional americans is fake – it’s the result of gaslighting, – or is the result of immigration, i.e. the browning of America (which fact you denied or are simply too stupid to understand). I don’t even like sports.
Your handle is fitting – your comments are……meh…..
Here's another critical part of renard's post:"Aside from the fact that you know absolutely nothing about my career, please fill us in about how waxing rhapsodic about the latest Hollywood propaganda or Sportsball hero “accomplishes good.”Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Who is craftier, the fox or the Scot?
We know nothing about his career or ideas or his suggested course of action (or even “their” “gender”) because he has not told us. Renard just slips into Steve’s henhouse, steals an egg, and poops. That’s the definition of trolling.
Steve has been writing for three decades. Nobody ever claimed his sports analysis or movie reviews moves mountains. (Though much of his “lying eyes” sports coverage is an opening for HBD into previously closed minds.) Go to https://www.unz.com/isteve/ and click on TOPICS/CATEGORIES right under the Twitter bird– there are almost 50 to choose from.
Barging into a forum announcing “Stop having fun! Obsess on my obsessions!” is rude and disrespectful. Add something, or go away.
Seems like the normalization of tattoos has become more widespread than that.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Nah.
In the second half they made good use of those Negroid running genes but with the penalties they were laughably bad.
It wouldn’t surprise me if there was a biological basis for their terrible performance.
So basically – you were wrong about everything – except tattoos
But if they had actual Frenchmen then France would not have won their previous 2 World Cups nor their Euro… They wouldn’t have made it to this final either. Do you believe all white countries should return all trophies and medals won with non whites???
Now I do not think France would dominate soccer as they do now in that alternative universe because France hasn’t been a historical powerhouse before the large scale immigration. However, France had a decent team in the 80s with platiniere: they made the semis in 1982 and 1986 at the world cups (losing to Germany) and they won in the euro in 1984. so probably they would have won a euro or World Cup in the last 26 years.Replies: @showmethereal
sewerutopia--all boring away like the nasty little termites they are at what little border protection will Europe has left, preventing a black wave of destruction upon the West.~~Always remember about the immigration shills: they are absolute sociopaths.Nothing is preventing them from living with whatever "diversity" they want. All their "immigration!" cant is about preventing you--you dumb deplorable white guy--from living as you want.Intense vile sociopathy--directed at you. Never forget.Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @anon, @showmetherealYou guys are hilarious…. What happened to the “one drop” rule?? Other than McCalister (I doubt DePaul is even pure white)- every Argentine player has some “other” in them… But now you guys consider them white? LOL.
If the two teams are evenly matched then yes, it will be decided by luck.
In fact, if I recall the rules, if the issue is still not settled after a certain number of penalty kicks, then it will come down to the two captains and the referee tossing a coin. This has never actually happened though.
It’s very possible to watch the World Cup–or a good movie–without subconsciously sympathizing with Globohomo. I suspect we would agree with each other on most things more than the vast majority of people–I hardly watch sports anymore because of the woke bullshit, and 95% of new movies are unwatchable–but I watched the end of the match today, and I really enjoyed it.
Made me forget for a little bit about the fact that Americans seems reconciled–almost excited–to dying for a Zionist death cult.
The only thing dumb really is Americans thinking they are better than the rest of the world who has no problem with the way the game is played. American exceptionalism of course… Can’t win so call it dumb.
Which Ronaldo? If you mean the Portuguese one – it was never really a debate – except for sports marketers. Messi actually has a higher goals per game ratio…. He scores more efficiently (less shots taken per goal scored)… Messi a better dribbler – as he can act as a midfielder when needed… Meaning he can not only beat defenders off of his dribble but he can drop back and hold possession and control the tempo of the game. He is by far a better passer as he passes better than all but a few midfielders in the world. I mean there was never really a debate except for the marketing people. The only comparison was who is the better goal scorer – but never as an overall player… Mbappe and Cristiano are the better comparison (and at his age Mbappe is ahead of him).
On the flip side Messi is better than Maradonna because he scores more than Diego — while doing many of the things Diego did…. Now winning the World Cup cements that. To prove the point about debating overall player vs just a goal scorer- nobody puts Cristiano Ronaldo on Diego’s level…
Thank goodness Steve’s page is here for you to post on.
I went through the starting line up of the French team and googled the nationality of the player (with a plausibility test by looking at the religious stats of the nation from which the player is from). Except dembele all players are said to be Christian. Even Mbappe, who has an Algerian mother, is Christian.
Of the seven subs, some sources say Camavinga is Muslim (though he is from Congo, which has not a lot of Muslims). Moreover, the subs fofana and Konate are Muslim (both from mali so that makes sense)
Lots of yellow cards and bone crunching tackles.
There are now 5 substitutions available. The Argentines can take turns fouling Greizmann, Mbappe or Giroud and the manager can substitute out the guys who get yellow cards.
I suspect Messi will keep quiet during the match. Then score a surprise goal.
1-1 at end of second half. winning Goal in the last minute of injury time or in extra time.
I'd cynically use the 5 subs to foul and gather as many yellow cards as possible rotate them out before the reds are a possibility.Replies: @David Jones, @Wokechoke, @Marquis, @Cutler
Your prediction did not age well LOLLLLLL
My pseudonym refers to the issue of black penalty kicks though.
Difficult to say whether this is true because we would need to have an alternative universe where France has no or very little immigration. Maybe in that parallel universe France actually has a lot of good white French players.
Now I do not think France would dominate soccer as they do now in that alternative universe because France hasn’t been a historical powerhouse before the large scale immigration. However, France had a decent team in the 80s with platiniere: they made the semis in 1982 and 1986 at the world cups (losing to Germany) and they won in the euro in 1984. so probably they would have won a euro or World Cup in the last 26 years.
We know nothing about his career or ideas or his suggested course of action (or even "their" "gender") because he has not told us. Renard just slips into Steve's henhouse, steals an egg, and poops. That's the definition of trolling.
Steve has been writing for three decades. Nobody ever claimed his sports analysis or movie reviews moves mountains. (Though much of his "lying eyes" sports coverage is an opening for HBD into previously closed minds.) Go to https://www.unz.com/isteve/ and click on TOPICS/CATEGORIES right under the Twitter bird-- there are almost 50 to choose from.
Barging into a forum announcing "Stop having fun! Obsess on my obsessions!" is rude and disrespectful. Add something, or go away.Replies: @Inverness
IOW, he typed something you disagreed with.
Renard can speak for himself but what’s this business about barging and slipping into this forum?
Both of us have hundreds of posts here. How much is enough so an old-timer like you will deign to allow us our basic rights?
And while we’re at that, who died and made you the forum arbiter? Do you think you’re Ron Unz? You, sir, are no Ron Unz.
It wouldn't surprise me if there was a biological basis for their terrible performance.Replies: @Meretricious
Penalty kick strategies are highly g loaded. Think about it
https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2015/04/lebron_james_on_new_nba_hgh_te.htmlReplies: @JR Ewing
The mid 1990’s and 2000’s was the highlight for HGH in American pro sports: Lebron, Barry Bonds, Julius Peppers, James Harrison. Supposedly Peyton Manning did it, too.
You couldn’t reliably test for it for the longest time but you could damn sure see the effects on peoples’ heads and faces. Sometimes their jaw would grow so much they had to get braces, like Leroy Burrell did. The big jutting jaw and peg like teeth was something of a tell on many athletes.
One issue with HGH is that it doesn’t just build muscle mass like steroids, it helps the body grow structurally and heal from injury. I don’t think giving it to a 13 year old dwarf is that big of a deal – that seems like a legitimate medical use – but I can see how some people might disagree.
Nobody denies that penalty kick shootouts are high pressure and unpredictable. The point is that it's a ridiculous way to determine what is heavily promoted as the most important event in sports in the world. It'd be one thing if it was rare, but it happens way too often in important games.
I was permanently turned off soccer as a kid during the '94 World Cup in the US when the final was determined by PKs when Italy's Roberto Baggio blew it by sailing the kick over the goal. Even as a kid it seemed like a stupid way to decide the championship.Replies: @JR Ewing, @showmethereal
For a very brief time – maybe 20-30 years ago or so – FIFA experimented with a “golden goal” sudden death overtime. I think they even played a full world cup that way. The didn’t do away with penalties but they made them play a lot longer to get to the shootout.
It was grossly unpopular and dumped a few years later. Turns out that soccer people just like the penalties and they would sit back and play very defensively and slowly and wait for the penalties anyway without risking giving up a goal that would end the game.
The idea of each side giving up a player every 10 minutes is a good compromise, IMO, but no one anywhere in an official position takes that one seriously at all.
https://twitter.com/brfootball/status/1604549293695713281Replies: @JR Ewing
I was in church yesterday, it’s Advent after all, and did not see any of the final match.
Why was Messi wearing a negligee for the trophy ceremony?
The One Drop Rule applies only to black ancestry, so it would have no bearing on the Argentine players with their partial Amerindian ancestry. In any event it’s irrelevant as all of them are legally non-white in the US as they are Hispanic.
But anyway, good guys win, blacks wilt under the pressure again, and we don't have to worry about this crap for four more years. By which time France will probably be living under a Muslim caliphate and Germany will be a Muslim infested wasteland, with intermittent electrical power and its industries all gone, thanks to entirely self-inflicted wounds.Replies: @Wilkey, @The Wild Geese Howard, @showmethereal, @Jonathan Mason
Only absurd to Americans. No part of the arm is to be extended from the body and make contact with the goal. There is a thing called a penalty area… When a foul happens – a penalty is given. Only arrogant Americans seem to have a problem with it. And nobody forced you to pay attention to the World Cup. The majority of the planet will be watching the sport in 2 weeks when all the leagues around the world open back up.
And I laugh at people like you guys calling all those mixed Argentine players “white” now. LOL. They are “good guys”. LOL. When they fought the British over the Falklands your type had every dirty name to call them. You guys are hilarious.
No one asked you to advise us on what we should or should not discuss among ourselves. We are not telling you what to do with your sportsball diversions.
Now, I would like to extend a cordial invitation for you to come on over and meet us on our land:
https://youtu.be/0dMxuqciYNk?t=20Replies: @showmethereal
Great game though, the best WC Final possibly ever. Predictably, the South Americans cried after becoming world champs.Replies: @S Johnson
Griezmann (whose dad is of German descent)’s mom is Portuguese while Giroud has two Italian grandmothers. That leaves apparently Rabiot as the only French-French starter. Football has long been seen as an immigrants’ sport in France going back to the days of Platini, Cantona and Zidane. In terms of team sports it has strong competition among the native French from handball, basketball and rugby.
At first I didn’t know who to root for. The Europeans from France or the Europeans from South America. But after the lineups I made the decision to root for the Europeans of South America vs the Blacks from Africa. The shootout was definitely Black vs White. I wonder what the European people think now that Europe is being colonized by Africans. And itz going to get worse. There are 1.2 billion Sub-Saharan blacks wanting to go to Europe so that they can get some of that good life.
The prospect of losing disastrously in the next elections, and the fact that reducing immigration is one of the very few things within their power that might alter that fate, may yet serve to concentrate their minds.
True, Argentinians are considered People of Color when they live in the United States. Even Mac Allister would get affirmative action because he is Hispanic like Messi and the current Pope.
And I laugh at people like you guys calling all those mixed Argentine players "white" now. LOL. They are "good guys". LOL. When they fought the British over the Falklands your type had every dirty name to call them. You guys are hilarious.Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
Yes, we are pretty funny. Soccer is a fine game, and we have just as many criticisms of our own game of baseball. Our complaints about both pertain to how the games currently go at the professional level, not the joy of amateur play or the validity of the sports themselves or the athletes.
No one asked you to advise us on what we should or should not discuss among ourselves. We are not telling you what to do with your sportsball diversions.
Now, I would like to extend a cordial invitation for you to come on over and meet us on our land:
As far as I know this is an open internet forum - not a closed club. There are subscription services when people want to chat among themselves.
And yes - many are exactly making suggestions of what "needs to be done" with the sport.Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
Why was Messi wearing a negligee for the trophy ceremony?Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
Blacks in football penalties : I can't shoootReplies: @Marquis, @Bernie
LOL!
Western Europe may have won their last World Cup. Blacks are just not that good at soccer – certainly not without white players, goalies and coaches giving them support. Then again, Italy and Spain have managed to stay all white or nearly all-white.
Also, any truly black African team that does relatively well has the majority of their players trained and playing in Europe, wearing European gear and using European tactics.
One of the few times Steve has expressed noticeable anger here was when Charles Murray’s critics demanded further clarifications and concessions after he already had gone to some lengths to do so. Steve got frustrated enough to ask, why not leave this poor, decent man alone? What has he done to deserve this?
I’m just doing for Steve what he did for Murray.
As for the Fox, how is he any different from the Crow?
Calling out trolling on the site is so established that Ron himself included a button for that very purpose. I have little-to-no interest in the movies Steve reviews, but I’ve never condemned him for doing so. What’s the point?
But anyway, good guys win, blacks wilt under the pressure again, and we don't have to worry about this crap for four more years. By which time France will probably be living under a Muslim caliphate and Germany will be a Muslim infested wasteland, with intermittent electrical power and its industries all gone, thanks to entirely self-inflicted wounds.Replies: @Wilkey, @The Wild Geese Howard, @showmethereal, @Jonathan Mason
The handball laws in soccer are a bit complicated and occasionally they do get changed.
However if you are a defender in the penalty area and your arm is extended away from your body and the ball hits your arm and your team derives some advantage from this, then usually it is a PK unless there are some extenuating circumstances (ball deflected off a teammate, or you are lying on the ground supporting yourself with your arm, hands are positioned to protect your genitals.)
The law might seem a bit favorable to the attacking side, but then again you can rest assured that the defensive team are fully knowledgeable of every single kind of underhand trick and piece of skullduggery that they might use to their own benefit.
He doesn’t look French to me.
Penalty kicks in soccer are arguably not that much stupider than the field goal in football, where one kick can win a game 45 yards from the endzone. Penalty kicks are blocked more often than field goals as well. Free throws in basketball are one man against a target with no defender at all, although granted the relative importance in terms of scoring is less.
To win a football game with a field goal, you have to have and maintain possession of the ball at the end and get in decent field position. Likewise in basketball, to win with free throws you have to be fouled on offense, generally while attempting to score.
The analogous case would be ending a football or basketball game after a tie score and then having a field goal or free throw contest, which would be just as stupid as the penalty kick shootout.Replies: @showmethereal
They’re not analogous, since the regular game isn’t ended in football and basketball to decide the winner by a field goal kicking or free throw shooting contest.
To win a football game with a field goal, you have to have and maintain possession of the ball at the end and get in decent field position. Likewise in basketball, to win with free throws you have to be fouled on offense, generally while attempting to score.
The analogous case would be ending a football or basketball game after a tie score and then having a field goal or free throw contest, which would be just as stupid as the penalty kick shootout.
Nobody denies that penalty kick shootouts are high pressure and unpredictable. The point is that it's a ridiculous way to determine what is heavily promoted as the most important event in sports in the world. It'd be one thing if it was rare, but it happens way too often in important games.
I was permanently turned off soccer as a kid during the '94 World Cup in the US when the final was determined by PKs when Italy's Roberto Baggio blew it by sailing the kick over the goal. Even as a kid it seemed like a stupid way to decide the championship.Replies: @JR Ewing, @showmethereal
Grown Italian men were crying when Baggio missed that penalty…. Yes there best player blew it. (Just like Robert Lewandowski missed one in this World Cup and so did Harry Kane. Both are the best on their team). Yet I have never heard an Italian say the game should be changed. It requires far too much energy to end like baseball or basketball where you just keep playing. People would pull muscles and ruin joints. And they used to have a “golden goal” in some tournaments – which is similar to American football in that whoever scored first in extra time would win… But THAT was almost universally derided. So it became completely settled that you play two shortened halves of extra time…. And then penalties. In yesterday’s game BOTH teams scored in extra time. All that did was add to the drama. Nobody seems to be complaining except Americans… No great swell of people in France asking for the game to be changed. In fact to add to the drama – the player who gave away a penalty to bring France back in 3-3 was the person who sealed the win for Argentina…. Nobody in the rest of the world is complaining.
They needed speed on the wings and they needed strength in the midfield. He had to. In fact – many in France are questioning why he didn’t start that way in the first place. Giroud is a stationary target which doesn’t help against a team that can control the ball like Argentina. Dembele has speed but he’s not a tackler… Again – Argentina could control the flow in the midfield – so they needed tacklers to disrupt that. You don’t coach thinking “oh this might go to penalties” until there are 10 minutes left in extra time. The goal (pun intended) is to win outright.
No but he has cried when they lost TWO Copa America finals. I can’t recall if he cried when they lost the World Cup final in 2014… But he definitely cried when they lost Copa America. One of which – he missed the penalty. He quit the team because he let them down – and the whole country begged him to come back.
Rugby is the French sport. Excellent teams. Mostly used to be Coppers or Firemen.
Either team is welcome to attempt a field goal if it can get close enough to the goal posts to do it. It is part of the game; it is not a “penalty kick” determined by a referee in response to some perceived fowl.
Often I have felt that one American football team or another would have won a game if only it had gone for a field goal instead of trying to drive all the way for a touchdown. It is part of the game, and both teams can go back-and-forth and score field goals any time they want to try it — ya know, kind of like soccer teams scoring actual goals.
No, your analogy is wrong, but I understand why you wrote it.
As for basketball…LOL… you are correct: free throws are only good for one or two points in ridiculous games of crazily high scores. They mean little, so again, your comparison to soccer is incorrect.
And please, I respect you and every other commenter here on this subject. I just really don’t care much at all about sportsball — in any of it’s silly iterations, in any country at any time. Ball games are for children and young men, and I played them all. I hate to watch them. Boring waste of time, all of them.
In American football a team can be on the 50 yard line. if the quarterback just throws the ball into the air and it goes to the endzone and a defensive player runs into a receiver trying to catch the ball - the ball is placed right up to the goal line is it not? Who came up with that idea? I think that is a waste... But since I don't care about American football - it doesn't bother me that is the rule....Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
There’s something about the pressure of the PK and the black players now. It could be trained out of them but something is wrong with them under pressure. I’m not sure exactly what it is but it’s observable. Mbappe was as cool as mustard. But not his teammates.
Movies give us female warriors; gay life coaches.
Sports give us Africans of singular ability on top of a system built and maintained by Europeans.Replies: @Wokechoke
Not so in the world cup. They fell flat. They fell flat in the European championship too.
I am now Hispanic; You can call be Julio!
If he were Brazilian, he'd easily have 2 WCs under his belt.Replies: @showmethereal
Brazil hasn’t won since 2002…. Back when the original (and many say “real”) “Fenomeno” Ronaldo played for them. There is absolutely no guarantee the Portuguese one would have any by now. Brazil were the favorites for this tournament too.
The World Cup Final, and only the Final, should have sudden death (or reciprocal sudden death where the scored upon team gets one chance to even the score) after 30 minutes extra time. It’s the World Cup Final. You are playing for your country for all the glory. Grit it out.
If that goes on for 30 minutes, then 11 on 11 free kicks from about 30 meters until one team takes the lead and the other team fails to score. Free kicks are a lot more fun than penalty kicks. Scoring on a long free kick is a thing of beauty, unlike scoring on a penalty kick. And teams have a lot of options, such as Netherlands’ wonderful free kick planned play against Argentina that instead of going over the top to 6’6″ Weghorst for the expected header, the free kicker gently rolled the ball through the Argentine defenders to Weghorst to kick it in off the ground.
I suppose they could do what they've started doing in both international and NHL hockey and that is reduce the number of players in extra time to open up more space for attacking play.Replies: @Jonathan Mason
I played a game of soccer recently for 40 min, and at the end of it my distance tracker informed me I ran 5km in that time, playing as a wingback (I'm now in my early 40s). I was absolutely shot and barely able to cycle back home. For professionals at their speed, it will destroy careers.
Nah, I'll stick with the shootouts. Participated in a few myself, and I counted myself lucky I scored when it came my turn!
That's what soccer past the end of regulation is like. These guys have already run a 10K or more, and now they have to keep sprinting (not jogging like marathoners) to get to the ball first. It just doesn't work well past about 90 minutes, let alone 120. It's not as if the whole world has been stupid about soccer rules, and Americans will just come in and "fix" soccer. As conservatives, you folks should realize that perhaps there is a reason some things are the way they are, it's not just a whim.Replies: @anon, @The Wobbly Guy
Now I do not think France would dominate soccer as they do now in that alternative universe because France hasn’t been a historical powerhouse before the large scale immigration. However, France had a decent team in the 80s with platiniere: they made the semis in 1982 and 1986 at the world cups (losing to Germany) and they won in the euro in 1984. so probably they would have won a euro or World Cup in the last 26 years.Replies: @showmethereal
Ahhh… I only remembered their 2000 Euro with Zidane and Henry (one of my favorite players) and Viera (one of my favorite midfielders) and Trezeguet. Platini was a great player…. I did not remember they won a Euro with him… I stand corrected on part of my statement then – LOL. I change it to – no 2nd Euro…
Oh ok. I used to watch old western movies and they all seemed to get riled up if any person was suspected of being partial “injun”. The females would be looked at very derogatorily and called something like “squal” or something to that effect (sometimes considered worthless so it was ok to “force”). it was never considered a nice thing in those old western movies…. That’s aside from things I read that were written about them by such former leaders as Andrew Jackson. So I assumed the “one drop” did not just apply to blacks. And yes aside from Mac Alister – I’m pretty certain every single one of those Argentine players has some “Amerindian” in them. Obviously players like Acuna and the best player on the pitch yesterday – Di Maria – much more so.
I don’t think there were any goals from direct free kicks in this tournament. Maybe one or two at most, though I don’t recall any. So your free kick idea might not work.
I suppose they could do what they’ve started doing in both international and NHL hockey and that is reduce the number of players in extra time to open up more space for attacking play.
The thing is, if your team has failed to win in regular time, then at least you still have a chance, but you can't really complain too much if you lose on penalty kicks. And if your team loses on penalty kicks, then you can put it down to bad luck or cheating by the opposition goalkeeper or the referee.
If you want to avoid a decision by penalty kicks, then you have to throw more of your team's resources into attack and risk conceding a goal, which makes the game more exciting.
If you are a supporter or coach of the England team, you will know in advance that you need to win in regular time, because you will always be beaten on penalty kicks!
No one asked you to advise us on what we should or should not discuss among ourselves. We are not telling you what to do with your sportsball diversions.
Now, I would like to extend a cordial invitation for you to come on over and meet us on our land:
https://youtu.be/0dMxuqciYNk?t=20Replies: @showmethereal
“No one asked you to advise us on what we should or should not discuss among ourselves. We are not telling you what to do with your sportsball diversions”
As far as I know this is an open internet forum – not a closed club. There are subscription services when people want to chat among themselves.
And yes – many are exactly making suggestions of what “needs to be done” with the sport.
Ummmm – France won the 2018 World Cup in Russia – with mostly black players… Including some that were on this very team… including Mbappe…. Yikes!!
To win a football game with a field goal, you have to have and maintain possession of the ball at the end and get in decent field position. Likewise in basketball, to win with free throws you have to be fouled on offense, generally while attempting to score.
The analogous case would be ending a football or basketball game after a tie score and then having a field goal or free throw contest, which would be just as stupid as the penalty kick shootout.Replies: @showmethereal
American football and American basketball have infinite substitutions and regular time outs. If they had no timeouts and limited subs basketball would not be able to continue indefinitely as it can now. And American football the first to score in overtime wins… And again – if there were minimal subs and no stopping of the clock they would have to change their rules too.
On the flip side Messi is better than Maradonna because he scores more than Diego -- while doing many of the things Diego did.... Now winning the World Cup cements that. To prove the point about debating overall player vs just a goal scorer- nobody puts Cristiano Ronaldo on Diego's level...Replies: @Thomasina
Nobody touches Messi. He’s an unbelievable dribbler, passer, playmaker, goal-scorer. A complete player, an artist on the pitch, a tremendous ambassador for the sport. Mbappe and Cristiano Ronaldo (both arrogant prima donnas) do not compare to Messi, IMO.
Croatia WAY overachieves mainly to Luka Modric in my opinion. Portugal underachieves....
I was glad to see Luka Modric win world player of the year recently. The last time a non forward won the award that I can recall was Cannavaro from Italy who won as a defender. It didn't always used to be that way... There might have been another midfielder in there somewhere - but I can't recall. Xavi and Iniesta probably could have one - but Messi was unplayable for years.
You make a good point about being an ambassador. I said he is ahead of Diego Maradona (i'm actually watching this documentary as I type - LOL.... I haven't gotten far yet so I'm not sure how good it is) - because he did what Diego did but scores more.... But as a man he's definitely better as you said as an ambassador. Diego was a great footballer and a nice man - but nobody wanted their children to really look up to a coke head with no "polish" to his behavior...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWLvle1YUTM
I suppose they could do what they've started doing in both international and NHL hockey and that is reduce the number of players in extra time to open up more space for attacking play.Replies: @Jonathan Mason
I think most people are happy enough with the penalty kicks.
The thing is, if your team has failed to win in regular time, then at least you still have a chance, but you can’t really complain too much if you lose on penalty kicks. And if your team loses on penalty kicks, then you can put it down to bad luck or cheating by the opposition goalkeeper or the referee.
If you want to avoid a decision by penalty kicks, then you have to throw more of your team’s resources into attack and risk conceding a goal, which makes the game more exciting.
If you are a supporter or coach of the England team, you will know in advance that you need to win in regular time, because you will always be beaten on penalty kicks!
The clubs will never agree to extended extra time, and even the players might protest. It’s just too punishing on the body. Players might run close to half a marathon length in 2 hours of play, and that’s far more difficult than just running 21 km at constant speed because of the non-stop changes in pace and direction required to keep up with the game flow.
I played a game of soccer recently for 40 min, and at the end of it my distance tracker informed me I ran 5km in that time, playing as a wingback (I’m now in my early 40s). I was absolutely shot and barely able to cycle back home. For professionals at their speed, it will destroy careers.
Nah, I’ll stick with the shootouts. Participated in a few myself, and I counted myself lucky I scored when it came my turn!
I was pretty lucky in my choice of World Cup topics this go-round considering I know nothing about soccer: I wrote a lot about eventual winner Argentina, a lot about Messi, and even concocted a “Messi vs. Mbappe” title the night before they combined for five goals.
No. I believe that nations shouldn’t base life-or-death decisions about immigration rates (and source countries) based on how it affects the outcome of a sportsball competition. I actually don’t care how black France’s soccer team is or isn’t. I care about what it says about France’s immigration policies that their team has so many black players.
In any case, how many of those players got visas to immigrate to France because of their football skills?
I note that five of the Argentinian squad players currently live in England, and ten in Spain. What does that say about the immigration policies of those countries?
And Messi. Born in Argentina of Italian parentage, move to Spain at a young age and obtained Spanish citizenship. Plays for Argentina, but currently lives in... France!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_nationality_law
Basically, a person who is born in France, but whose parents are not French Nationals, but were citizens of French territories before independence, are entitled to be naturalized as French citizens when they reach the age of 18.
Some former French overseas territories include Algeria, Guadalupe, Martinique, St. Martin, French Guiana, Senegal, Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Niger.
Contrary to what has been posted here, several of the French squad of 26 are not black Africans.
Lloris, Giroud, Griezmann, the Hernandez brothers. Some others are of mixed race. Most, if not all were born and educated in France.
But immigration policy is a complete different issue from what this thread is about.
The good news is that UK’s high court just allowed the policy to send asylum seekers to Rwanda to go forward. Whether or not the UK government actually starts sending them there is another matter. The “conservative” party heretofore hasn’t done a damn thing so slow immigration prior to now, and even threw the borders wide open to millions of people in Hong Kong.
The prospect of losing disastrously in the next elections, and the fact that reducing immigration is one of the very few things within their power that might alter that fate, may yet serve to concentrate their minds.
Me too. I told him twice and provided links that Mbappe was into trans stuff. He guess he was so centered on the racial angle that he didn’t care.
But surely that all goes back to the colonial history of France?
In any case, how many of those players got visas to immigrate to France because of their football skills?
I note that five of the Argentinian squad players currently live in England, and ten in Spain. What does that say about the immigration policies of those countries?
And Messi. Born in Argentina of Italian parentage, move to Spain at a young age and obtained Spanish citizenship. Plays for Argentina, but currently lives in… France!
Actually French nationality laws are quite complicated and were substantially revised in 1994.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_nationality_law
Basically, a person who is born in France, but whose parents are not French Nationals, but were citizens of French territories before independence, are entitled to be naturalized as French citizens when they reach the age of 18.
Some former French overseas territories include Algeria, Guadalupe, Martinique, St. Martin, French Guiana, Senegal, Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Niger.
Contrary to what has been posted here, several of the French squad of 26 are not black Africans.
Lloris, Giroud, Griezmann, the Hernandez brothers. Some others are of mixed race. Most, if not all were born and educated in France.
All writers have things that they can write about, and things that they (ahem) cannot. It’s like a Security Clearance in the Army; levels.
Let’s just celebrate Mr. Sailer for providing interesting content on a daily basis.
However, you are wrong in implicating that Sailer cannot write about this subject. He is magnitudes above you in any measurable or subjective writing ability.
A wise writer knows when to simply leave out something. Clearly, you are not a wise writer. (And this commenter does not even expect you to understand this point. Pity the fool.)Replies: @Truth, @Truth
As far as I know this is an open internet forum - not a closed club. There are subscription services when people want to chat among themselves.
And yes - many are exactly making suggestions of what "needs to be done" with the sport.Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
No problem. No harm done. I can see that you enjoy watching football. Good for you. No American should deign to tell you “what needs to be done” with your sport. That is up to you.
“Either team is welcome to attempt a field goal if it can get close enough to the goal posts to do it. It is part of the game; it is not a “penalty kick” determined by a referee in response to some perceived fowl.”
In American football a team can be on the 50 yard line. if the quarterback just throws the ball into the air and it goes to the endzone and a defensive player runs into a receiver trying to catch the ball – the ball is placed right up to the goal line is it not? Who came up with that idea? I think that is a waste… But since I don’t care about American football – it doesn’t bother me that is the rule….
If I was building a team – I would select a guy like Luka Modric before Cristiano Ronaldo. He was the real leader of Real Madrid. That’s why they were able to win the Champions League again when Cristiano left.
Croatia WAY overachieves mainly to Luka Modric in my opinion. Portugal underachieves….
I was glad to see Luka Modric win world player of the year recently. The last time a non forward won the award that I can recall was Cannavaro from Italy who won as a defender. It didn’t always used to be that way… There might have been another midfielder in there somewhere – but I can’t recall. Xavi and Iniesta probably could have one – but Messi was unplayable for years.
You make a good point about being an ambassador. I said he is ahead of Diego Maradona (i’m actually watching this documentary as I type – LOL…. I haven’t gotten far yet so I’m not sure how good it is) – because he did what Diego did but scores more…. But as a man he’s definitely better as you said as an ambassador. Diego was a great footballer and a nice man – but nobody wanted their children to really look up to a coke head with no “polish” to his behavior…
I think they all (and/or families) are from former French colonies….. But it is two different issues. France could cut off all migration tomorrow… I’m just saying it is a fact they would not have won the 2 World Cups they have – had it not been for their African migrants (north and sub-saharan). I mean even now Giroud only started because Karim Benzema was injured. Benzema is considerably better.
But immigration policy is a complete different issue from what this thread is about.
Let's just celebrate Mr. Sailer for providing interesting content on a daily basis.Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
At least you are willing to say that, Mr. Pravda.
However, you are wrong in implicating that Sailer cannot write about this subject. He is magnitudes above you in any measurable or subjective writing ability.
A wise writer knows when to simply leave out something. Clearly, you are not a wise writer. (And this commenter does not even expect you to understand this point. Pity the fool.)
Right. Griezmann’s German roots are two centuries ago. But you’re right, soccer is a lower-class, immigrant sport, as is basketball (France’s basketball team is even blacker than the soccer team). The actual French play rugby and totally dominate the sport of sailing, particularly high-end, long-distance racing. Now THAT is a French sport. In addition, the French boat builders dominate the sailboat and catamaran industry.
Hey, didn’t Morocco “almost” make it? The MSM kept stressing how well an “African” team did in this WC, as though that meant Morocco had any blacks on it, as opposed to arabs and Berbers. When an African team is much whiter than a European team, that kind of says it all.
Also, any truly black African team that does relatively well has the majority of their players trained and playing in Europe, wearing European gear and using European tactics.
Steve, have you ever played a sport where you had to keep sprinting despite already having muscle cramps in your legs? Let’s say basketball?
That’s what soccer past the end of regulation is like. These guys have already run a 10K or more, and now they have to keep sprinting (not jogging like marathoners) to get to the ball first. It just doesn’t work well past about 90 minutes, let alone 120. It’s not as if the whole world has been stupid about soccer rules, and Americans will just come in and “fix” soccer. As conservatives, you folks should realize that perhaps there is a reason some things are the way they are, it’s not just a whim.
During the finals match, France's Raf Varane gave everything he had on the pitch, and had to be substituted after chasing down an Argie attack. He was absolutely shattered, hands and feet on the ground, and could barely stand after nearly 2 hours of action. His club teammate Lis Martinez (from Argentina) checked on him after the match to make sure he was okay, since they are the key central defense pairing at Man United.
That's what soccer past the end of regulation is like. These guys have already run a 10K or more, and now they have to keep sprinting (not jogging like marathoners) to get to the ball first. It just doesn't work well past about 90 minutes, let alone 120. It's not as if the whole world has been stupid about soccer rules, and Americans will just come in and "fix" soccer. As conservatives, you folks should realize that perhaps there is a reason some things are the way they are, it's not just a whim.Replies: @anon, @The Wobbly Guy
They could also redo the match if it ends in a tie. Best of X number of games is common in many sports. So playing multiple matches to determine the champion wouldn’t be so strange.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/dont-mention-google-was-infiltrated-by-a-gay-art-cult-until-way-down-in-the-article/#comment-5715321
Didn’t seem to bother you. One of a thousand examples.
However, you are wrong in implicating that Sailer cannot write about this subject. He is magnitudes above you in any measurable or subjective writing ability.
A wise writer knows when to simply leave out something. Clearly, you are not a wise writer. (And this commenter does not even expect you to understand this point. Pity the fool.)Replies: @Truth, @Truth
Apparently, it was you who did not understand the point.
In South America the Copa Libertadores (think UEFA Champions League) they attempted to play over 2 legs. It becomes too much wear and tear on the bodies. it’s not feasible
That's what soccer past the end of regulation is like. These guys have already run a 10K or more, and now they have to keep sprinting (not jogging like marathoners) to get to the ball first. It just doesn't work well past about 90 minutes, let alone 120. It's not as if the whole world has been stupid about soccer rules, and Americans will just come in and "fix" soccer. As conservatives, you folks should realize that perhaps there is a reason some things are the way they are, it's not just a whim.Replies: @anon, @The Wobbly Guy
‘More than 10K’ is probably an understatement for 120 min. I’m pretty sure it’s more than 15K, closer to 20K. Midfielders probably even more. It’s just insane.
During the finals match, France’s Raf Varane gave everything he had on the pitch, and had to be substituted after chasing down an Argie attack. He was absolutely shattered, hands and feet on the ground, and could barely stand after nearly 2 hours of action. His club teammate Lis Martinez (from Argentina) checked on him after the match to make sure he was okay, since they are the key central defense pairing at Man United.
However, you are wrong in implicating that Sailer cannot write about this subject. He is magnitudes above you in any measurable or subjective writing ability.
A wise writer knows when to simply leave out something. Clearly, you are not a wise writer. (And this commenter does not even expect you to understand this point. Pity the fool.)Replies: @Truth, @Truth
Mr. Sailer, Mr. Derbyshire and the rest collect money for writing, and have rules. Have you ever collected money for working a job, and had no rules to follow?
Great.
Then do yourself a huge favor, take your hands off the keyboard once in a while, shut up, read and try to learn something.
I "collected money for writing" in my first job out of college. That was all the way back in the 1980s. Got promoted, ran a department, produced and edited shit too. Published even, for, you know, money. Commercial crap. As in "real job, real money, real company, real rules."
WTF have you done to lecture me about fucking bloggers working in closets -- especially when I support them and come to their defense?Replies: @Truth
A lot of the people claiming Indian ancestry were simply black. It was a socially acceptable way (particularly in the South) to explain away swarthy features that would otherwise have got you called out as a negro.
But you missed the point. I'm talking about in those cultural movies there were no blacks. These were people suspected of being part native american. Are you American and never watched western movies?
Wow, two replies from you. Must have touched a nerve.
I “collected money for writing” in my first job out of college. That was all the way back in the 1980s. Got promoted, ran a department, produced and edited shit too. Published even, for, you know, money. Commercial crap. As in “real job, real money, real company, real rules.”
WTF have you done to lecture me about fucking bloggers working in closets — especially when I support them and come to their defense?
Great. Steve Sailer does not own this site. He is an employee and employees have rules, so about what are you arguing with me?
In American football a team can be on the 50 yard line. if the quarterback just throws the ball into the air and it goes to the endzone and a defensive player runs into a receiver trying to catch the ball - the ball is placed right up to the goal line is it not? Who came up with that idea? I think that is a waste... But since I don't care about American football - it doesn't bother me that is the rule....Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
Let’s face it (if you’re still reading this) all the ball games are stupid in some sense or other. Not at the amateur or child level, when they are fun, but whenever they pretend to be “professional.”
I would gladly buy you a drink at a pub and argue this more, if I had the chance, no matter what game was on the telly.
Cheers.
I "collected money for writing" in my first job out of college. That was all the way back in the 1980s. Got promoted, ran a department, produced and edited shit too. Published even, for, you know, money. Commercial crap. As in "real job, real money, real company, real rules."
WTF have you done to lecture me about fucking bloggers working in closets -- especially when I support them and come to their defense?Replies: @Truth
Great, and I suppose you were allowed to write about anything you want when you were a front-page columnist for the Times? You were able to photocopy a picture of your ass and put it on the editorial page?
Great. Steve Sailer does not own this site. He is an employee and employees have rules, so about what are you arguing with me?
Well people are highly ignorant if they couldn’t tell the difference between Native American features and African ones. But I guess that’s what hatred will do.
But you missed the point. I’m talking about in those cultural movies there were no blacks. These were people suspected of being part native american. Are you American and never watched western movies?