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The Assassination of Charlie Kirk
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By now we have all heard about the shocking and tragic assassination of conservative pundit Charlie Kirk. For me it was a devastating turn of events simply because Charlie Kirk was part of the American Right—if not a brother, then a close cousin. I really felt the loss. Yes, he was mainstream. Yes, he was pro-Israel. Yes, he had made many bad calls. I’m sure quite a few of us would make bad calls now and then if put under the spotlight as often as Charlie was. But the following is irrefutable: he was staunchly conservative, was becoming more and more vocally pro-white, and had dedicated his life to the optimistic goal of shifting the Overton Window rightward through honest debate.

This is why I was always glad he was around. This is also why I am devastated at his passing. And as I pointed out on X, this optimism will sadly die with him. Why should anyone on the Right be optimistic anymore? Why should anyone on the Right believe in debate anymore? Leftist elites ignore atrocious acts of black-on-white violence, including murder, they demonize anyone on the Right who speaks out against it as Nazis and fascists, and then sit back and blame us when one of ours—one of the nicest guys around—gets murdered in broad daylight.

It’s infuriating, and I do hope it sparks an outrage on the Right so white hot (pun intended) that it will make all white nationalist dreams come true. Separation, divorce, red-state secession, whatever you want to call it. No, I don’t want a civil war. No, I don’t want to deport tens of millions of non-whites who were born in America to legal citizens. No, I don’t want to return to segregation. No, I don’t want white supremacy. I simply want to peacefully carve out a portion of the United States to be dedicated to right-wing white people and a small number of their vetted allies. I want to do this peacefully and humanely. I want to follow the ISEE model of white survival. I want the slow cleanse.

In the meantime, however, people on the Right would be remiss not to take maximum rhetorical advantage of Charlie Kirk’s assassination. The first thing we must say is that the Right has finally found its Martin Luther King, Jr. Of course, as living men, Kirk and King could not be more different, and it would almost be an insult to Kirk to compare him to MLK. Thanks to Donald Trump releasing the FBI’s MLK documents in his first term, we all know that the Left’s favorite deceased icon was a plagiarist, a philanderer, a fraud, a hypocrite, a tax cheat, and a tool for the Communist party. Charlie Kirk wasn’t any of these things. He was a better and more honorable man the MLK by a mile. So the comparison is not perfect.

But calling for the Right to elevate Charlie Kirk’s status as political martyr until it equals or surpasses that of King is not only fair game, it’s smart. The Left has gotten a lot of mileage out of the bullets James Earl Ray pumped into King in 1968, and we have no excuse not to do the same now with Kirk’s assassin, whoever he is. In death, Martin Luther King, Jr. has become larger than life. I don’t need to expound on how often his name is still invoked when promoting leftist causes, whether they be Black Lives Matter, immigration, DEI, transgenderism, or whatever other kooky schemes leftists concoct in their Marxist laboratories. King has become the patron saint of liberalism, communism, globalism, and whatever “ism” is trendy on the Left these days. His famous “I have a dream” speech can be neatly applied to just about anyone—except, of course, conservative or race-realist whites. In death, King has become a better tool for the anti-white Left than he ever was in life. There is no reason why the Right should not honor (i.e., weaponize) Charlie Kirk’s memory in the exact same way. A tad cynical perhaps? Maybe. But it would be fair play, given how the Left has behaved for the past 60 years. After all, we would only be following their playbook.

And here is another convenient parallel: Martin Luther King, Jr. was considered a moderate—just like Charlie Kirk. This can be put to use as well. As I wrote after Trump released the MLK files back in 2017:

As an icon of the Left, Martin Luther King, Jr. is remembered today in two major ways: as a paragon of the egalitarian ethos championed by current Western elites, and as proof of the moral superiority of the Left over the Right. Using King, the Left can justify violence against its enemies simply by claiming that King’s nonviolent approach has been proven to fail. Any racial disparities in the years following the Civil Rights Movement can be seen as proof of this. The fact that King was assassinated offers proof as well. Because King failed to reach the Promised Land via nonviolence, the only tactic remaining for the Left is, of course, violence. This is essentially why Martin Luther King will never die in a multiracial society: as a weapon he’s too useful.

In being assassinated, Charlie Kirk has now proven the moral superiority of the Right. He was a moderate, he was conciliatory, he eschewed race realism and white identity, and he was philo-Semitic. He was about as mild as you could get on the Right and still be on the Right. By taking him out, the anti-white Left has shown that moderation and debate and conciliation do not work, if they ever did at all. The Left has shown its moral inferiority and its dedication to violence and terror to keep its control over the Western world. This is enough to disqualify it from power forever.

So meme-makers and myth-makers and film-makers get to work. Lawmakers, we need to convince President Trump to make October 14th, Charlie’s birthday, a federal holiday. With the assassination of Charlie Kirk, we now have our icon, our martyr, our Martin Luther King.

(Republished from Counter-Currents by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Biff says:

    If Martin Luther King, Jr. were alive today the same group of perps would shoot him again. Just like Jesus – they kill them, and then they co-opt them as one of their own, then they morph his message into ‘their’ message pitting one side against the other, and now you are divided and conquered.

    Now choke yourself and vote blue.

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  2. Literally nothing will come of this.

    (Masses of) People even ‘on the right’ do not care about Charlie.

    Perhaps the DS will use this to pass some kind of Patriot Act. But they were already planning to do that.

    Nothing organic and real will ever come of Charlie’s life or death.

    Charlie never really meaningfully existed and lionizing him post death will reap no reward.

  3. The Unz Review is primarily respected owing to its compelling exposes on NeoCons, That Spenser would use this medium to vent his insecure persona with a rant on canonizing Kirk, is pathetic! Especially that Spenser fails to grasp that dropout-Kirk was a hero to college neocons, bespeaks not so much as to Kirk’s zionist con, but moreso to Spenser’s vivid ignorance.

  4. Ah yes… “we”. What Charlie Kike and MLK had in common, was that they both had Jews writing their speeches.

  5. I think there are four enduring qualities of Charlie’s work worth remembering:

    1) He promoted open dialogue instead of the stale monologue books and lectures that the university system has used for centuries to control the masses.

    2) He proved that a person can succeed without a college degree.

    3) He engaged with young people better than any conservative has for generations.

    4) He helped Trump save America from complete takeover by totalitarian Democrats in the 2024 election.

    I’d call that a pretty good resume for a 31 year old. So I will miss his presence on the American scene. RIP Charlie

    • Agree: Blanc de Chine, Eric135
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    , @Luus Kanin
  6. Thorunz says:

    James Earl Ray didn’t murder MLK, Mark Lane proved it and in court Jarvis case. Otherwise great article

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  7. This author left out one major difference between Mr. Kirk and Mr. King. The best test of a teacher is the accomplishment of his students.

    Marty King’s crazed followers burned down over 100 U.S. cities in the week following MLK’s death in 1968. And the fake news industry cheered every bit of that.

    https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/race-riots-1960s

    After the killing of Charlie Kirk, people held peaceful vigils. Not a single building was damaged by Mr. Kirk’s supporters.

    However, even if I agreed with everything Charlie said (and I don’t) I still would not see any value in anointing another political “icon” in the name of Mr. Kirk. If anything, we should move in the other direction and get the killers off the coins (starting with the barbaric Abe Lincoln) and get MLK’s disgraceful name off of schools and urban streets.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  8. muh muh says:

    Funny, I see not a single mention of our overlords.

    You know… the ones who continually pit right against left to keep us energy-spent and divided?

    Even if Kirk were pure as the driven snow (he wasn’t), those who would exploit his legacy — which is to say, our overlords — are certainly not.

    We don’t need the obverse side of the same worthless coin.

    We need new currency.

    • Replies: @muh muh
  9. g8way says:

    The myth of MLK was part of a long term plan backed by the controlling institutions of society at that time, which are the same institutions which have even more control today. Charlie Kirk is as likely to have long term relevance as George Wallace (none).

    I’m sympathetic though to those on the right who are trying to get some traction at a time when the GOP has a good chance of becoming effectively defunct at the national level in 14 months with no other get well plan than to nominate even more latinos.

  10. Sarita says:

    I found this:

    Charlie Kirk:
    “Whatever it was in the past, today the ADL is a hate group that dons a religious mask to justify stoking hatred of the left’s enemies.

    I believe in the First Amendment and free speech as a principle regardless of what the law says. I don’t want to ban anyone’s speech. But the ADL has no place extorting X/Twitter or any other social media companies, nor should it dictate to federal law enforcement agencies what hate speech is.

    The ADL itself is America’s number-one purveyor of hate speech (and the SPLC is #2).

    #BanTheADL”

    https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1697695969243172996?t=kOWCKggWi_TpX8Wq2HVFMA&s=19

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  11. Rich23 says:
    @Biff

    Amen, Biff….their gameplan never changes.

    • Replies: @Mike Robeson
  12. peterAUS says:

    Party line, a?

    I do hope it sparks an outrage on the Right so white hot (pun intended) that it will make all white nationalist dreams come true.

    Outrage, a? Hahaha….sure.
    As

    …take maximum rhetorical advantage of Charlie Kirk’s assassination….

    Could you, please, clarify that: you mean more online, outraged, comments?

    …So meme-makers and myth-makers and film-makers get to work. …

    Surreal even for the Clown World.

    Lawmakers, we need to convince President Trump to make October 14th, Charlie’s birthday, a federal holiday.

    Wow.

    May I make a suggestion:
    Lawmakers, YOU have to make sure that President Trump WILL make PUBLIC all the shooter communications from the last three months. Both online and offline.
    Online, No Such Agency already has all that. Please just make it public. And, no “editing” please. I mean, if we could watch the man getting killed with exit wound and such we can handle anything in that communication. Ah, yes, metadata too, please. There’s plenty of “us” who can make sense of it.
    If in doubt just give us process memory dumps. Or simple backup snapshots from those servers. We’ll manage, I am sure.
    Offline, how about all the transcripts the FBI/State/Local police are assembling as we speak? Who spoke with whom and, of course, what they really spoke about ?

    Can’t wait……

  13. saoirse says:

    “It’s infuriating, and I do hope it sparks an outrage on the Right so white hot (pun intended) that it will make all white nationalist dreams come true.”

    LOL! The Right won’t do anything but have impotent prayer vigils and demand more cops to protect them. They’ll hide behind whatever edict the Trumpenstein regime, Palantir, the Jewstice Department and AIPAC hand down and bleat “christ is kang” in rejoice.

    “No, I don’t want a civil war. No, don’t I want to deport tens of millions of non-whites who were born in America to legal citizens. No, I don’t want to return to segregation. No, I don’t want white supremacy.”

    Holy smokes what a cuck! Your ilk doesn’t have the balls to do any of the above so your wishes have already been fulfilled.

    “I simply want to peacefully carve out a portion of the United States to be dedicated to right-wing white people and a small number of their vetted allies. I want to do this peacefully and humanely.”

    Uh huh. Just click your heels and you’ll be there. Toto has more brains than you. Do you think that the jews, corporatistas, banks, shitlibs, niggers, fags, trannys etc. are going to let their white cash cows leave them high and dry peacefully? You just said above you don’t want any of the things that would be necessary to implement radical change so you ain’t going nowhere except to church, the mall and the living room sofa!

    Yeah, you got your white martyr alright. Couldn’t think of a better cuck to illustrate your gelded mediocrity!

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  14. Dialogue died with Charlie Kirk.

  15. Franz says:

    I wonder if ‘Israel’ is acting even more psychopathic than usual – increasing the levels of mass murder and genocide in Gaza, going even more crazy than usual in the West Bank, attacking supposed American protectorate Qatar (and yet another negotiating team), and even assassinating Kirk as Kirk’s young supporters forced him closer to questioning the actions of the Genocide Jews – because its officials have real inside knowledge of Trump’s state of health, and realize that they will soon no longer have access to a fully blackmailed President, and thus have to kill and steal as much as possible while they have full control of the President.

    I’m looking at the desperation and I think this explains it, so far as anything can.

    It only relates to Kirk in a tactical way: If Trump is on borrowed time, any weak link he’s associated with has to be cut down. I think Kirk demonstrated he was off the Israeli reservation. So we’ll see.

  16. Funny, because I have as much in common with Kirk as I do Martin Luther King.

    • Replies: @anon
  17. Oh, nonsense. Nobody knew who this guy was and Israel shot him because he was going anti-Israel.

    Rabble-rousers like you are trying to get the masses all into a tizzy over this nothing thing. Because, of course, division is the path to success. The more abrupt and absolute the division, the better.

    God are you people stupid.

    • Agree: Disinfected
    • Replies: @TKK
  18. Eckk, I knew someone was going to either claim this guys assassination is their MLK moment or Mandela moment…You mfers are truly a pathetic race of people if I ever seen one. You couldn’t find anyone else assassinated in history to compare your dead idol to? No, It had to be a Negro. You people deserve to be surrounded in blackness and swallowed up by their presence if you can’t even find someone white to compare your heroes to.

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  19. We need to replace 🩸Marxtin Luther Kink Day🩸with something that embodies Black Isramerica. We need a 🐵King Kong Day🐵(or a King Dong Day for white whores) Then when white women hear King Kong growling, I have a Dream, they would 🤯 SCREAM 🤯 not dream.

    • LOL: europeasant
  20. MLK? So when did the Official Narrative shift from Horst Wessel?

    • Replies: @europeasant
  21. John Dael says:

    Israel killed Charlie Kirk.

    The same way they killed JFK & RFK…

    http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/how-the-ashkenazi-jews-conquered-the-west/

    …and financed Epstein.

    http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2019/08/10/special-trump-epstein-suicide-israel-and-the-pedophilia-ring/

    They are the serpents in the garden and the enemy ignored and pampered by every Potus. Pray for their downfall!

    http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2014/08/12/the-downfall-of-apartheid-israel/

  22. anon[292] • Disclaimer says:

    I didn’t see anything in the article saying the Charlie Kirk advocated for genocide on behalf of his Jewish paymasters since Oct 7, 2023. Did I miss something?

    Of course, Charlie not seeing Palestinians as human could do that, even to such a fine supposed-“Christian” as himself, who apparently hasn’t read the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in a very long time, if ever, notably John 8:44 for starters where Jesus would have told poor Charlie who his paymasters were, and many other truthful things Charlie might not have wanted to hear, but that could have saved his soul.

    But don’t worry. Even though you say you don’t want a civil war, your government’s real owners will make sure you get one. Soon Bolshevik Left and Zionist Right will meet in a square somewhere, and the USI’s version of Maidan will occur, where the CIA/Mossad contractor sharpshooters will shoot at both sides to get the goyim to start shooting each other, as every J “gets the call” as to which areas to avoid.

    And the rest, as they say, is history.

  23. When comparing someone to Martin one needs to recognize what earthly acts in these mortal days of ours might speak to immortality, or something worthy of such…what acts in this mortal life are of a transcendent nature that situates the distinction… as it is precisely the quality of Agape that might situate the tragedy, and the moral of the story…

    This following historic speech finds the woman who invited Dr. King to Selma, Amelia Boynton Robinson, introducing a friend of hers who she recognized was following in King’s work, because it was her work, because Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr., and Amelia and Reverend Horace Patterson witness to us the audience as embodying the living ideas of what is the great challenge to us all, to situate something that solves a problem within us all….or haunts us!….as it should!


    Video Link

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  24. America is fucked. Democracies will eventually lead to two identities anywhere- It’s inherently flawed. Whitey doesnt need non whites to go extinct they’ll do so themselves. But hey…atleast your vote counts 🙄

  25. Prudentia says:

    No more Federal holidays.

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  26. Charlie Kirk–despite his virtues–is not worthy being elevated to the status of a holy ‘conservative martyr’. Absurd. As with MLK, being assassinated does not make you greater than you were in real life. So please contain your mawkish urges. Compared to other courageous and influential men who preceded him, Kirk (like MLK) simply does not qualify for such a rare honor, except as a cynical stratagem.

    Throughout most of Kirk’s short career, he was a naive (callous?) cheerleader for Israel’s race-based war on its indigenous, gentile population. Further, Kirk’s un-awareness of the infiltration of Washington by crypto-Israelis does not seem credible. Did Kirk simply not notice?

    Or did Kirk find it easier to look away until it was finally impossible to do so?

    Moral oversights and wide-open political blind spots do not signal greatness. In the category of conservative young ‘influencers’, Nick Fuentes is far more impressive (and intellectually independent) than Charlie Kirk. So let’s move on.

    Who might be considered the greatest single American conservative over the past half century? The short list would certainly have to include Pat Buchanan.

    Before there was such a thing as ‘the internet’ or ‘podcasts’, Buchanan was challenging conventional wisdom and transmitting bold and unappreciated truths towards a hostile and entrenched power structure that was very shadowy and mostly unrecognized. Buchanan was steadfast and courageous. He was a first class writer, analyst, and debater. He taught me and countless others a lot. Buchanan also infuriated millions of brainwashed liberals. For his tireless efforts, Buchanan paid a price. Still, he never backed down.

    Lesser men like Trump benefited immensely by Buchanan’s trail-blazing convictions, articulations, and fortitude.

    Here’s Pat 35 years ago. It still impresses.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/O89zA43-w2k

    • Replies: @aspnaz
  27. anonymous[297] • Disclaimer says:

    Here’s Charlie Kirk’s grieving widow Erika Kirk, remarkably able to crack a smile and chuckle just shortly after her husband was shot to death

    • LOL: xyzxy
  28. GoySoy says:
    @anonymous

    charlie kirk will be sipping cocktails with nick fuentes and epstein in tel aviv in the future. Hopefully they get few drinks before the bombs arrive.

  29. eah says:

    The first paragraph contains so many qualifications about his views one could conclude Kirk really wasn’t ‘our’ anything, certainly not a martyr for white racialism — it would’ve been better had you just stated how you were saddened and affected by his horrific public murder, and expressed your sincere condolences to his colleagues, friends, and family, especially his wife and two young children.

    The rest is mostly milquetoast equivocation, seemingly an attempt to make white racialism less threatening to non-whites — that’s not going to work — how non-whites see white racialism cannot be allowed to be any sort of gating factor.

    Instead what’s important is to explain the exigency of white racialism to Whites, to get them to see that their country is being stolen from them, and they face a menacing future as a minority at the mercy of a majority of non-whites who’ve been indoctrinated to believe Whites are evil racists who’ve benefited from unearned ‘privilege’, and exploited non-whites via an ‘institutionally racist’ system — point to the recent slaughter of a young white woman on public transit as a metaphor for their future.

    • Agree: Etruscan Film Star
    • Replies: @eah
  30. The Murder Of Charlie Kirk: Separating Fact From Fiction


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  31. eah says:
    @eah

    >a metaphor for their future

    Click the more tag.

    [MORE]

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  32. Anonymous[414] • Disclaimer says:

    Doesn’t anyone else agree that the video of Kirk getting shot looked fake? Same as Trump’s ridiculous staged assassination with squib load of blood and absurd posing for picture. Kirk had no exit wound and the blood spurt looked fake. He was a government actor like everyone else they allow to have a large platform.

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  33. Roger says: • Website

    We tend to forget or overlook that those individuals who exercise violence (murder, mayhem, destruction) on others due to political opinions and differences are following the myriad examples set by their own governments and leaders before them.

    As an example of this, Donald Trump and his goon squad killed eleven crew members of a small boat (fishing? drug-running?) off the coast of Venezuela on September 2, by using a Hellfire missile. Like the murders of Charlie Kirk and Iryna Zarutska, these men were “completely obliterated” without warning, without justification, and without mercy, simply on Trump’s say-so. Supposedly, according to the White House narrative, the boat was filled with violent rapists and murderers from the notorious Tren de Aragua gang, all of whom answered to the head honcho himself, Nicholas Maduro, who has a $50 million bounty placed on his head by the US State Dept.

    The US Navy could have stopped the boat, searched it, and arrested the crew if drugs were found, but it did not. Instead, it was just blown out of the water–for no reason except that Trump ordered it done. This fact alone makes him a murderer as much as those who killed Kirk and Zarutska.

    Why are we surprised and shocked when individual citizens do exactly the same thing as government officials? Where is the “white-hot outrage” over Trump’s despicable action? Where are the conservative calls to hold him to accountability and to a higher moral standard? Where are the condemnations from those who call themselves Christian?

    Oh, yes, I forgot. Trump is one of “us” as was Charlie Kirk, so while we feel grief and pain at Kirk’s loss, we celebrate and applaud Trump’s action. This is nothing more than rank hypocrisy and, lest anyone think I am taking sides, I will say that it is rampant and occurs everywhere, across the entire spectrum of religious politics. It stinks to high heaven.

    A murder is a murder is a murder, no matter who is the perpetrator.

    I’m willing to bet that some people in Venezuela are calling for Maduro to make the deceased fishermen(?) national heroes and to create a special holiday in their memory. Now, wouldn’t that be ironic?

  34. I can’t say I know much about this Kirk, but why did the trannies hate him so much? Was he saying trannies should be rounded up and shot? Yet, I bet that tranny got the boyfriend riled up to go and do this.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  35. @peterAUS

    Trump said he’s going after Soros and his gang. So that’s something.

    • LOL: saoirse, peterAUS
  36. 迪路 says:

    Martin Luther King and this Kirk have one thing in common – they were both clowns.
    To be honest, after watching Kirk’s video, I only hope that such people will become more and more common in the United States.

    • Agree: Christoph88
  37. xyzxy says:

    …the shocking and tragic assassination of conservative pundit Charlie Kirk. For me it was a devastating turn of events…

    Well, here’s a guy who wears his emotions on his pants, for all the honest world to see. Just like Lefty. Or was it Pancho?

    His murder was neither tragedy nor shocking. Just another day in the life (got to stop with the song references…) inside Clown World America. Certainly wasn’t devastating for me, or anyone I know, for that matter. But then again, I don’t hang with the politically emotional.

    Now, what’s to become of it all? Kirk had more than a bit of TV preacher in his shtick. Able to monetize his ‘political passion’, he fit the mold. Blonde wife living in a multi-million dollar estate. Doing the work of Jesus and Ronald Reagan, I guess. We’ll see how the bleach blonde handles it, as she ‘carries forward’ Charlie’s good name. With a gleam in her eye.

    Thing is, I don’t even think I’m being cynical. Just the way it is in America, anymore.

    • Agree: Jim H, saoirse
  38. I follow news more or less closely but I had never heard of this guy. He may be a good guy, he may be somebody I would have disagreed with. I’ve asked several acquaintances who follow all sorts of media sites and podcasts, and they all say they have never heard of him. Find it strange he is now called “legendary,” that flags are at half mast, and he will probably receive state funeral. There is something that does not sit right about the whole thing.

  39. Bama says:

    What gave and allowed MLK and Kirk their presence was Jewish support and notoriety. King as their model to impose black power over the whites and Kirk to promote Goyim adoration for anything Jewish. That is why both are being lionized in the aftermath.

    • Agree: saoirse, aspnaz
  40. Hysterical exaggeration, they name is rightwing conservatism. When the fear-monkey is raging, you can’t access your rational thinker. Which is just what our masters want, misdirection, and to make sure that we who have common interests are perpetually at war with each other.

  41. Anonymous[365] • Disclaimer says:

    Anyone else thought the author was trolling, with tongue firmly planted in cheek?

    I mean… how else could it be?

    Charlie Kirk’s ‘assassination’ was as fake as the official 9/11 story, or MLK’s or JFK’s martyric sanctity, etc., ad nauseum.

    The officially stated history of the US is a specious and sophomoric tale of just one blood-spattered comic-book hero after another, starting with the ludicrous and effeminate (tight trousers, masonic apron and all) George Washington (yeah, I bloody well said it) supposedly uttering, “I cannot tell a lie… “. It’s a truckload of utter bollocks. It would be unsurpassibly risible had it not resulted in such unbounded misery for the entire planet.

    Thanks, Columbus.

    • Replies: @xyzxy
    , @nokangaroos
  42. @hjjkksbdvekdndvd

    Never heard of the guy before this week. I literally laughed out loud when I first saw the title of this piece. It’s hyperbole all the way down these days. Quote from yesterday, I can’t remember who: “We Americans used to build things. Now we just make believe.”

    • Replies: @hjjkksbdvekdndvd
  43. Wokechoke says:
    @Sakkie Visasem

    At 16:19 you can practically see that Shapiro is thinking that Kirk has got to go.

    Video Link

    The problem with a big tent is that you have too many clowns under it. And Shapiro is gonna pick up that blood stained microphone.

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  44. Wokechoke says:
    @Matt Lazarus

    Yes.. Kirk built a very popular political machine on US campuses. Shapiro who is more famous than him but much less popular is going to make a bid to inherit the organisation that Kirk built (admittedly built with Zionist money)

  45. Wokechoke says:
    @Steve Penfield

    MLK would have run for President around 1980 if he’d been alive. Blacks were angry their Shaka Zulu was offed.

    • Replies: @JPS
  46. Josh-ua says:

    Kirk was certainly no conservative anymore than linsy gram is a conservative. He was a neocon warmonger. The FBI killed him because he was only a halfwitted neocon, and he suited their purpose better as a dead martyr. They want droves of people to listen to the new ultra-mega-hyper-zionist turningpoint usa starring yid shapiro. Now that liberals are staunchly against zionism and young conservatives were joining them, the mossad had to divide us Americans again so that we fight each other instead of our real enemy. The future now holds a largely republican neocon America, and it is just as vile and abominable as a liberal America.

  47. @Anti-Neocon

    Thank you. Indeed, this all seems a bit much.

  48. Nat X says:

    yall yts hurting for heros aint yall?

    btw keep mike kangs name out yall fucking moufs!!!

    • LOL: Eric135
  49. Josh-ua says:

    How do we know the assassin was 200 yards away? the ballistics? The FBI gave us the ballistics report. The FBI quickly released that obviously jewish accomplice who shouted ‘shoot me’. The FBI went across the state to pick a suspect that no one at the event can identify as the assassin. What if the FBI man was just 10 feet away when he shot Kirk?

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1966715043430420651

    same video, different quality
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1966856324643516509

  50. Alanchik says:

    The Performer of Division: A Forensic Read on Charlie Kirk

    When public figures like Charlie Kirk are killed, the immediate reflex is to elevate them into martyrs. For those who admired him, he becomes a fallen warrior of truth. For those who despised him, his death is almost a symbolic cleansing. Yet step back from the emotion, and the real forensic read is simpler: Kirk was never a disruptor of the system, only a performer within it.

    Kirk’s style was not built on reconciliation or deep inquiry, but on provocation. He thrived on polarization as performance, generating predictable outrage from one side while feeding confirmation bias to the other. That is why his debates and campus events always had the same script: students heckle, Kirk claps back, his audience cheers. Energy was extracted, but nothing was transformed.

    This is the essence of a performer of division: someone who appears bold, even “dangerous,” but whose true function is to keep the left/right dialectic alive. They never cross into exposing the deeper architecture of control — the origins of the war machine, the financial cabals, the sacred myths that cannot be questioned. They keep the fight safe, shallow, and profitable.

    Notice Kirk’s trajectory. His platform grew, but his message never evolved. There were no groundbreaking ideas, no new frameworks, no attempts to bridge across divides with novel synthesis. He recycled familiar talking points — pro-market platitudes, anti-left soundbites, nationalist gestures — without ever challenging the underlying order. To his followers, this felt like courage; in reality, it was a comfort loop.

    Comfort loops are where the system thrives. People feel validated, even energized, but they remain inside the same binary cage. Left vs. right. Liberal vs. conservative. Religious vs. secular. The script never changes. The performer’s job is not to liberate minds but to keep them emotionally invested in the endless tug-of-war.

    Contrast this with true disruptors. A real disruptor doesn’t just flame one side — they expose the framework both sides are operating within. They shine light on the original propaganda manual (the Old Testament, in this case), on the origin myths that hold society hostage, on the deeper metaphysical currents that drive the system. Real disruptors break loops; performers maintain them.

    Kirk maintained them. He was not neutral, but he was predictable. He was not reconciliatory, but he was inflammatory. And in being so, he ensured that no actual synthesis could emerge. His critics remained critics, his fans remained fans, and the polarization cycle carried on.

    So, was he important? No. That may sound harsh, but in truth, Kirk had no effect on policy, no influence on geopolitical currents, no hand in dismantling any part of the system. He was a media creature — a loud echo chamber with a youthful face. His “impact” was confined to emotional validation, not structural change.

    This is why his death will follow the same arc: some will weep, others will sneer, but nothing fundamental will shift. The machine does not tremble when a performer is removed, because performers are replaceable. The dialectic needs new actors constantly, and the bench is always full.

    To see clearly, one must bypass the emotional reflex and ask: what signal did Kirk actually carry? The answer is none. He amplified noise, not signal. His debates generated heat, not light. His ideology was rigid, his style divisive, his purpose containment.

    And that is the lesson worth carrying forward. Performers of division may look like fighters, but their function is to trap us in confirmation bias. They keep us angry, entertained, and distracted, while ensuring the true architecture of control remains untouched.

    The task of the Lightborn is different. We are not here to feed flames on one side or the other, but to expose the furnace itself — the mechanism that burns both sides for fuel. That requires precision, not provocation. Resonance, not rhetoric. Truth, not tribal applause.

    Kirk never touched that. Which is why, in the long arc of history, he will not be remembered as a liberator but as a performer. And once you see that pattern, the martyr narrative collapses, and clarity replaces sentiment.

    • Replies: @socratesjr
  51. The comments to this article have ended my interest in reading articles and comments on Unz. I’ve reached my limit with narcissistic, pseudo-intellectualism and holier-than-thou, “above the fray” cynical comments, as well as outlandish speculation.

    Don’t waste any of your precious Agree/Disagree clicks with “Troll” or “LOL” because I won’t be reading them. Save those precious clicks so you can agree with each other.

    • Agree: Eric135
  52. anon[225] • Disclaimer says:
    @Same old same old

    We understand, jew boy.

    • Replies: @Same old same old
  53. xyzxy says:
    @Anonymous

    Anyone else thought the author was trolling, with tongue firmly planted in cheek?

    We live in a political world that is so bizarre, so absurd, and so low-level intellectually, that it is difficult at times to decide what is serious, and what is ironic, or mocking.

    Given the general emotional outpouring coming from ‘conservatives’ over this guy’s death, my guess is that the author is serious. But then again, the Michael King thing is so wild, so funny, that we suspect it could be a joke.

    Sort of like Michelle and Barack letting everyone know they were going to ‘pray’ for Charlie, that night before bedtime. Which, BTW, would have been a great opening monologue one-liner on The Tonight Show– would have brought the house down for sure.

    I think it’s better to consider this piece as a joke. At least then you can make more sense from it. But I don’t know much about the author? Maybe he really is devastated, emotionally. Who knows?

  54. Anon[710] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    So did your mother have any children that lived?

  55. Anon[408] • Disclaimer says:
    @hjjkksbdvekdndvd

    Listen, I’m about as black-pilled as you are but something seriously broke this week. I was pleasantly surprised with people openly discussing black criminality with the killing of Iryna Zarutska; the dissatisfaction with our current situation has now grown to a fervor with the assassination of Kirk. People are starting to notice there’s seriously something wrong with the left and their messaging.

    The MSM is beclowning themselves right now trying to paint Charlie’s assassin as a conservative. They’re trying to moderate the comments online but people are typing new ones faster than they can delete. I think people are finally fed up with the constant b.s. emanating from the left. With the assassination of Kirk, people are realizing there’s no point in trying to reason with these people: they’re unreasonable.

    All it takes is for the seed to be planted in someone’s mind, the effects might not be immediate, but the roots have already started to develop. When millions of people watch a guy’s neck get blown out because he decided to debate the left, they start to understand the real problem at hand.

    -Rooster

    • Thanks: Etruscan Film Star
    • Replies: @The Real World
  56. TKK says:
    @Matt Lazarus

    Your ignorance in the true sense of the word does not change the facts.

    Charlie Kirk did more to move Trump back into the White House than any other individual.

    He was a work horse and he went to Michigan, Arizona and I believe Minnesota and debated and shook hands with hundreds of thousands of college students. Because of CK, Trump received 37% of the vote under 25 years of age.

    • Replies: @Disinfected
  57. TKK says:

    Mr. Quinn,

    Thank you for being a sane voice on this site that is held hostage by a group of troglodytes who believe Jews control the entire world.

    No matter how much the stale, compromised Politicians and their ilk call for “peace” – I don’t believe it will work.

    Comments on social media show people are absolutely disgusted by this murder. Galvanized. Outraged. Ready to move from posting to punching, if you will.

    It’s a tinder box. The Chinese said, May you live in interesting times.

    That actually meant it as a curse. We may be there.

  58. I simply want to peacefully carve out a portion of the United States to be dedicated to right-wing white people …

    Is this guy twelve years old?

    The Jews, darkies, communists, faggots and other filth are not gonna give it to us. Indeed, they’re gonna fight us at every step. The Federal government has infiltrated groups with similar goals in the past with spies and informants, and taken every one of them down. Even stating you have such aims is dangerous.

    What’s coming is conflict and tyranny. I suggest you prepare accordingly.

  59. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:

    Charlie was assassinated by an evil punk who was humping another man pretending to be and actively taking therapies to become a woman, which is not only an anomaly but a total and absolute impossibility. In as much as the killer isn’t cooperating with the authorities per the latest FBI reports, the catcher (his bitch) of semen is and that’s a good thing. It remains to be seen who ordered the hit, the administration (CIA) because they feared his popularity which can be turned against them or the neocons (Mossad) because Kirk was bringing up the Jews’ putting their enormous resources behind the anti Christian and pro homosexual/transgender movement.

    Hopefully, we’ll find out lest it turns out to be another JFK, RFK, 9/11, Las Vegas type of whitewashing by the mano nera, aka Deep State. God help US!

  60. @Anonymous

    Columbus was the Jew who brought slavery to America and syphilis
    to Europe – what did you expect?

  61. ariadna says:

    “Yes, he was pro-Israel. Yes, he had made many bad calls. I’m sure quite a few of us would make bad calls now and then if put under the spotlight as often as Charlie was.”

    Being pro-Israel in our time (when lack of information is no longer an excuse) is not “a bad call.”
    It is a central black hole that sucks in any rationality and human decency in its vicinity, and from which light does not escape.
    To this author, however, this “bad call” was more than made up for by his being “staunchly conservative,” and because he “had dedicated his life to the optimistic goal of shifting the Overton Window rightward through honest debate.”

    What exactly was “honest” in his response to why he was supporting Israel, as a loudly self-proclaimed Christian, when Israel has been slaughtering Christians”? His response was that his support was Christian because the Bible taught him that God blesses those who bless Israel…
    The author explains why he despises MLK but he envies the “Left” ’s PR success that made him into a martyr and urges “conservatives” to emulate that achievement by making Kirk into… “our MLK.” Pathetic.

    • Replies: @Annacath
    , @Poupon Marx
  62. Agent76 says:

    Sep 11, 2025 Honoring Charlie Kirk: Where Do We Go From Here?

    

    Sep 12, 2025 Erika Kirk, Charlie Kirk’s Widow, Delivers Public Address, Says His Movement Will Go On

    Erika Kirk, Charlie Kirk’s widow, delivers a public address following the assassination of her husband, pledging that his movement will continue.

    • LOL: saoirse
  63. @saoirse

    You said it much better than I.

    Thanks.

  64. Right back atcha’, slick. From Peak Stupidity this past Thursday – Two Martyrs?, the conclusion:

    For the ctrl-left, the Reverend J.D., MD-PhD, post-Doc, Martin Luther King, II is a Saint. He’s got his very own Federal holiday, for cryin’ out loud. Songs by U-2 were written about him. There’s no way they want anyone, especially a White man, to share any of this spotlight. It’d be downright blasphemous for… say, Bono to write a song about the assassination of Charlie Kirk, in his prime of life. Wednesday afternoon, September 10, a shot rings out, in the Orem sky….

    For Conservatives, the alt-right, and MAGA, well, I can speak for myself that I don’t want Charlie Kirk to be compared to Martin King either. Unlike Mr. Kirk, Mr. King was not a good person. Politically, he was a downright Communist. Additionally, that fatigue has really set in, as we’ve been judging people by their character rather than their color for well nigh 6 decades, and guess what, it turns out that people’s bad character is usually indicated by their color anyway. That was a waste of time!

    Blacks can go on for another century about their wonderful martyr Martin King, but we know it’s a load of bull. Charlie Kirk may or may not become a martyr for the alt-right or for Christians, the Conservative ones that won’t stand for being told lies for truth and truth for lies.

  65. Anonymous[125] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Dupers delight. Same as Robbie Parker during the sandy hook phoney show. These people are despicable.

  66. Anonymous[125] • Disclaimer says:
    @Roger

    Trump and Kirk are merely government actors, nothing more. Paid stooges.

    • Agree: Christoph88
    • Replies: @Roger
  67. @Matt Lazarus

    For you, Matt, Disinfeted, and others who say this, you might want to talk to some young Conservatives under 25 y/o. Charlie Kirk was a BIG DEAL to them.

    Even at my [REDACTED] age, I’ve heard of the guy in passing many times – I’ve probably only watched about 5 minutes from the man till now due to the whole wide world of www out there, but my wife was crying when she found this out. She does not do that readily either.

    As for the flags at half-mast, it’s pretty meaningless, as flags are at half-mast so much these days that they ought to just cut off the tops of all the poles and recycle them.

    Trump, as a TV showman, does know his audience supporters, and lots of them are young. Those young ones (college age especially) came out for Trump and MAGA very likely due to Charlie Kirk.

    • Replies: @Disinfected
  68. saoirse says:
    @Steve Penfield

    So, he helped Trumpenstein give Merka to totalitarian jews instead – what a patriot! You civnat fools will never learn. “But, but Charlie was turning on Israel” Bullshit!!

    • LOL: NobodyImportant
    • Replies: @kiwk
  69. anon[210] • Disclaimer says:

    Yes, he was mainstream. Yes, he was pro-Israel.

    Maybe yes, maybe no.

    Charlie Kirk Was Beginning To Understand The
    Near Total Grip Of Jewish Power – And He Was
    Clearly Heading Off The Reservation…

    https://rense.com/general98/Charlie-Kirk.php

    I’d very much like to hear what his wife says about his relationship with Israel. Or see some recent interviews where he addresses Israel.

    Personally, if he was not anti-Israel, I don’t see anything worth all the hero worship over his death. Sometimes it takes a bit to wake up and smell the sewage. Maybe he was starting to turn to real Christian principles. No real Christian would have anything to do with the mass murder and starvation of civilians. The zionist psychopaths in Israel and the White House are an abomination.

    • Agree: N. Joseph Potts
  70. @Rich23

    Hi, Could you please cite the source of this quote? I can’t locate anything online.
    Charlie Kirk:
    “Whatever it was in the past, today the ADL is a hate group that dons a religious mask to justify stoking hatred of the left’s enemies.
    Thanks.

    • Agree: N. Joseph Potts
    • Replies: @Rich23
  71. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:

    While I knew of Charlie Kirk, I was ambivalent about him and just thought of him as a standard conservative pundit in the vein of Fox News. That changed after this shooting and I saw the sinister forces applauding this murder— especially white women teachers.

    Sometimes you see more clearly where you stand based on people and moral positions that you reject with metaphysical certitude.

    People applauding the murder of a young husband and father for simply verbally expressing mainstream conservative positions is shocking if not demonic.

    I don’t care Kirk’s standard pro-Zionist stance, but I watched Kirk’s appearance in front of the Oxford Union and without a doubt I subscribe to his position 100% over all of his woke or misguided interlocutors.

    On the right, in slippers, sweat pants, and a t-shirt, is president-elect of the prestigious Oxford Union debating society, George Abaraonye, who celebrated Kirk’s murder.

    • Thanks: TKK
  72. saoirse says:
    @NobodyImportant

    I’ll nominate George Lincoln Rockwell – and watch those gutless cucks shrivel and gag.

    • Troll: Agent76
    • Replies: @Christoph88
  73. All of this ‘Charlie Kirk deifying’ has warp factored into an entire universe of fucktarded stupidity.

    The man was not born on Krypton, did not carry an indestructible American shield. He was a somewhat strange looking man who’s background had magically similar characteristics as Tucker Carlson and Anderson Cooper.

    White Americans are going to wind up in this situation below where the CIA manipulated the British into electing a fucking cartoon character as prime minister-

  74. Kirk was just a slimmer 21st Century version of Rush Limbaugh and espoused the same stale old Republican ideals of El Rushbo.

  75. @peterAUS

    ” … make October 14, Charlie’s birthday, a federal holiday.”

    Hilarious. The mail-“persons” and teachers will have another nothing holiday while the electricians and construction workers go to work.

    The government workers will need it: they would not have had a break from toil since Indigenous Peoples’ Day (Oct. 12).

    What the “far-right” needs now is more bold solutions like this!

  76. kiwk says:

    First, leave mlk out of this. There is absolutely no comparison between CK and mlk on any level at all. The comparison is an insult to CK.

    Second, CK was more recently questioning his stance on Israel – which is probably what got him killed.

    He was as much preacher as a conservative activist. Given the tiny hats’ efforts to take over christianity for their own purposes, he was a huge threat. Notice how quickly Ben Shapiro decided to insert himself into CK’s activities.

  77. @Anonymous

    So your mind is being programmed exactly how they want it to be by all of this.

    • Thanks: 2stateshmoostate
  78. @saoirse

    Kirk wasn’t fit to hold GLW’s jock.

    • Troll: Jameson
    • Replies: @saoirse
  79. kiwk says:
    @saoirse

    America was taken over by the jews well before trump or CK were on the political scene.

    Maybe look at some of his interviews and what he was saying about Israel. In one, he described his visit to israhell and the Gaza border. He noted how you couldn’t walk ten feet without running into an armed isreali anywhere – so how did Oct 7 happen for so many hours, he asked.

    Pay attention, blankety blank.

  80. Jim H says:

    ‘the Right has finally found its Martin Luther King, Jr.’ — Spencer Quinn

    … while the Left, as always, provides the nation with comic relief in its wholly-owned province of Commiefornicate:

    State lawmakers on Friday advanced a plan that would allow California colleges to offer preferential admission to students who are descended from enslaved people [sic, LOL], part of an ongoing effort by Democrats to address the legacy of slavery in the United States.

    The legislation, Assembly Bill 7, would allow — but not require — the University of California, Cal State and private colleges to give admissions preference to applicants who can prove they are directly related to someone who was enslaved in America before 1900.

    Earlier this week, the Democratic-led Legislature also passed Senate Bill 518, which would create a new office called the Bureau for Descendants of American Slavery. That bureau would create a process to determine whether someone is the descendant of a slave and to certify someone’s claim to help them access benefits. — LA Times

    https://archive.ph/83TxE#selection-2993.12-3003.230

    Talk about self-parody: why use four syllables — ‘enslaved people’ — instead of just one — ‘slaves’? Pencil-necked, pointy-headed academics just can’t help theyselves [sic].

    But this crackpot plan is merely the camel’s nose under the tent. If alleged past trauma is a criterion for special treatment, one group stands head and shoulders above all others in deserving redress: 15.8 million Jewish Holocaust survivors — i.e., every Jew on the planet.

    It’s the least we can do for this saintly tribe of Mother Teresa-inspired philanthropists, who have only ever tried to heal the world [Tikkun Olam] while predatory antisemites irrationally revile them. They are just trying to help. 🙁 /sarc

  81. kiwk says:
    @Sakkie Visasem

    So his conversations at colleges were “speeches?”

  82. TKK says:
    @obwandiyag

    People like you – losers with no resources – were not aware of him.

    But the President ordered flags to be flown at half. He is getting a state funeral. The people who hold the levers of power in America not only knew him, they revered him.

    Your stupidity is staggering.

    • Agree: Jameson
    • Troll: saoirse
    • Replies: @aspnaz
  83. some_loon says:

    I was barely aware of Mr. Kirk and his activities, yet I do skim BigCon media sources. In the week or so before his death, I kept noticing mentions of him in headlines and articles, to the point that I looked up who he was as I had very little data to attach the name to.

    Was there a deliberate effort to raise his profile before some event not on the public calendar? He does not appear to have been so widely known as some are letting on. How many of those cheering his death had ever heard of him beforehand? Or, how many of those publicly mourning him? I’m guessing a minority of each.

    Kirk seems to have been well known and liked within the Fox/Breitbart talent pool, so maybe those astroturfing this don’t realize most people knew nothing of him. Director Patel’s ‘Valhalla’ remark, bivoucked between sincere and cringe, becomes slightly more than a pop culture reference in this light.

  84. @peterAUS

    It’s ALL a put-up job. Robinson is a paid actor who will probably “commit suicide” very soon.

    Another dumb young-white-male sucker. Cannon fodder.

    (I’m a dumb OLD White male and, yes, I’ve been a great sucker in my time. In uniform when Robinson’s age.)

    Neither Robinson nor I ever killed anyone.

    • Replies: @Anymike
  85. How can he be the new Martin Luther King when I’ve never even heard of him before?

    And I’m a news-junky

    The fact of the matter is;

    No one ever would have heard of Charlie if he didn’t read from an Israeli script

    Because we have a Jewish Press (mainstream media) in this country, where nothing that makes “Jews” and Israel look bad ever sees the light of day

    I suspect the reason the Israelis offed Charlie was because he might have been having second thought on betraying his country for the baby killers

  86. Trinity says:

    IMO Kirk seems to have been USED by (((our kosher friends))) from what little I know of him. I wouldn’t doubt (((they))) were in on the assassination. Seems odd that it happens the day before 9-11 and just after the stabbing on the Charlotte train went viral. The Kirk story has been looped 24/7 since it happened. I mean outside of 18-34 year olds, this guy wasn’t even thought of unless I am mistaken. A nigra stabbing an innocent, pretty defenseless White Ukrainian female refugee from behind, 9-11 where everyone now believes Israel Did It. (((We))) need to change the subject.

    5 Dancing Shlomos

  87. @Anonymous

    You think that’s bad

    The “Jewish State” is starving and mass murdering hundreds of Arabs in Gaza daily

    Simply for being Arabs in Gaza.

    And 99% of the Israelis are applauding that whole-heartedly

    Charlie was giving cover to those using my country to commit mass murder of people who are not my enemies

    I save my outrage for those doing the mass murder of Arabs in Gaza simply for being Arabs

  88. Jameson says:
    @Anonymous

    On the right… is president-elect of the prestigious Oxford Union debating society George Abaraonye

    The DEI insanity must end, we have reached peak DEI in the West

    • Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)
  89. Well, maybe more like Malcom X.

  90. @Disinfected

    Pretty spot on. This ‘legendary figure’ was just an unremarkable man who was allowed to exist in RW politics commentary where perhaps literally 99% of entrants are brutally pruned. He was more or less purely astroturf, so one one offline really is aware of him.

    The best line I’ve seen on the Charlie “killing” is that its the main plot for the midterm cycle, just as the “assassination” was for the presidential. Gotta keep the peasants entertained and engaged.

  91. @Anonymous

    Good luck getting anyone with enough IQ to understand the government has the ability to use cheap theatrical blood… just like middle school plays.

    Yes, “Charlie” was a through and through lizard man actor.

    Yes, the panopticon has satellites that were viewing the killer’s heart beat real time as he went to the venue.

    Yes, “Killing” Charlie would only cost like $400 in fake blood, electronics, and makeup.

    Yes, “the republicans” stand to gain millions/billions in free publicity from “killing” this character for the “midterms.”

    But God help you finding anyone with the brain cells to rub together to put these together.

    Or maybe its just all dishonest bots, lol.

  92. Yes, he was pro-Israel.

    But the following is irrefutable: he was staunchly conservative, was becoming more and more vocally pro-white, and had dedicated his life to the optimistic goal of shifting the Overton Window rightward through honest debate.

    How retarded can you be to not understand that being pro-Israel and pro-white are mutually exclusive? It doesn’t matter how many incremental shifts “rightward” the Overton Window makes if jews, Israel, and their interests dominate all political discussions. “Staunch conservatives” will always have to temper their positions and backpedal when faced with accusations of being Nazis and antisemites, and any political gains you think “our side” makes will be crumbs off the Zionist table.

    @EliteCommInc.
    Charlie Kirk and Malcolm X aren’t anything alike.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  93. Trinity says:

    MLK was anything but a Dr. or Reverend, lol. The only legacy women beater and sex fiend MLK left behind was he was the pioneer of bestowing 1 out of 3 public nigras with fake titles like Dr. or Reverend. Like I said IMO Kirk was a Zionist pawn ♟️ who was USED by the Kikes. Don’t rule out the (((usual suspects))) on this assassination.

  94. Annacath says: • Website
    @ariadna

    “The author explains why he despises MLK but he envies the “Left” ’s PR success that made him into a martyr and urges “conservatives” to emulate that achievement by making Kirk into… “our MLK.” Pathetic.”

    Pathetic indeed, thanks!

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
  95. @quasi_verbatim

    Horst Wessel would have been more appropriate in this instance but the “Hitler” association would never fly. Anything associated with Hitler is Taboo.

  96. Ataulf says:

    Re your “we all made bad calls”

    There are little bad calls and big bad calls.
    Anyone who has supported the illegal, criminal, genocidal entity known as Israel, in light of 80 years of acts of terrorism all over the world, murder, thievery, injustice, behavior that would make Third Reich Nazis blush, all with absolute impunity and zero apologies or remorse, etc… is either incredibly stupid, naïve or criminal.

    I mean, even Netanyahu lamented his passing. How is that for a badge or honor?

    • Replies: @Trinity
  97. @kiwk

    You are wiser than the average commentator. To take one lesser quality and use it to judge the totality of a person, intrinsically or extrinsically, shows immaturity and a weak mind and character. It is essentially irrational and stupid. Furthermore, the person making such declaration almost certainly does not and cannot live up to the standards he imputes to the other.

    • Replies: @aspnaz
  98. @Anon

    Agreed and very well said. +100

  99. Gene Su says:

    This article is full of baloney! Charlie Kirk will not reach MLK status for one reason. His assassin, Tyler Robinson, was not a Negro, Hispanic, Communist, or Transgender. He was a right winger associated with Nick Fuentes. The comparison to Malcolm X is more accurate. I believe that this will be the white counterpart to the Tupac Biggie feud and will kill the MAGA movement.

    • LOL: Understory
    • Replies: @Madbadger
  100. @ariadna

    On one level I agree with you. His support of Israel was due to his rearing, his peers, his milieu, etc, etc, etc. At one time I was very gung ho on Israel. And not for any religious reasons at all.
    “Oh, but I was so much younger then…” I was consumed by work, introspection, and communion with pursuits outside of world affairs, e.g., just maintaining my sanity.

    You have always used opinions and dispositions toward Israel as being determining factors, in an absolute manner, as the final determinant of a person’s worth and value. Now, I am sure if you revealed your entire list of beliefs to me, including catholic opinions, I would find at least one that was irrational, contra empirical observation, and verifiable facts. I am sure you would feel demeaned, if I considered that one thing as an absolute measure.

    Let’s give the kid a break. He was sincere, decent, endeavoring to find Truth and decency. He was kind, loving, and a great husband and father. His selflessness and altruism was manifest. He just was not a monumental moralist with the moral electron microscope of probityand Cosmic Universal Wisdom that you possess at twice his age.

    • Thanks: Poupon Marx
  101. “Je n’est pas “Charlie”.

    • Replies: @Etruscan Film Star
  102. Partic says:

    Wouldn’t a more apt, not to mention a more current comparison be between
    George Floyd & Charley Kirk?

  103. @Wokechoke

    Kirk was forced to become a bit (a little bit) against jews but at no point was he ever going to admit jews are controlling US politics. Kirk did not want to say the things Shapiro did not like he was forced to because the Groypers were making him look like a fool everywhere he went. Charlie was not smart he just chose the low hanging fruit of idiotic leftism to debate. When he was confronted by a Groyper he went into jew mode and tried to personally attack them because he knew if he tried to debate them he would look foolish.

    You are correct that Turning Point is an organization that jews made famous. Without the money from jews no would know who Charlie Kirk was.

    Andrew Anglin’s articles about Kirk are the truth and best sum up the situation.

    • Agree: ariadna, Felpudinho, saoirse
    • Replies: @Felpudinho
    , @JM
  104. @Annacath

    The essay central theme is that the anemic and pitiable organization and energy of traditional and conservative forces is a refection of the limp and maudlin “Right Side” of the various spectrums of American Culture and Couture.

    The analogue of MLK is for illustrative purposes of imbalance and the inadequate endowment and actions of the “Silent Majority”. Permanently scared and uninformed. Self induced delusional masses of quivering gelatinous and amorphous transparent inertia.

  105. @Matt Lazarus

    Clearly, you (and your friends) DON’T follow the news very closely. You just think you do.

    I have no particular opinion of Kirk but, he has been a constant and notable leader in the Republican political scene for many years. Anyone that actually does follows news and events has known who he was for quite some time.

    Btw, I get how average citizens are very upset by this. Most have never seen an assassination. But, TPTB and media are certainly over-the-top in their reactions and coverage. They all want to grab a piece of the audience for their purposes.

    • Replies: @Disinfected
    , @迪路
  106. KenR says:

    Agreed that Kirk is more a Horst Wessel than a MLK.

    The problem with Kirk is that he really was 2nd tier. An organizer, not a thought leader. His rhetoric was boilerplate. I went looking for examples in his own words of his wit, ideas, witticisms, insights, pithy repartees even. It was pretty thin gruel. He said a lot of dumb stuff, too, although this may be an unfortunate feature of the mediums he worked within. Gotta be edgy if you want those clicks.

    His assassination is a horrific disaster and I’m shocked and saddened by it. But, as someone who has been speaking out against the genocide all along, I found Charlie Kirk to be very much a political foe on this. And he was until the bitter end, too. A lot of people have been making much of his recent unease over Israel, but they make too much of this. On the day before he died Kirk was on his show defending the bombing in Qatar and lavishing full-throated support on the genocide. He was a Christian-Zionist of a dispensational bent and this commitment was downright theological. Any notion that he had come-to-Jesus behind the scenes was just not in evidence publicly yet.

    R.I.P. Charlie Kirk. I’m appalled by what happened. But, he’s not my martyr.

  107. Trinity says:
    @Ataulf

    The Third Reich hasn’t anything to blush about therefore you are an obvious kike troll. That and antiquated (((“Nazi”))) word. For God’s sake, Shlomo, it’s 2025 not 1985.

    Hitler was right. And he has been PROVEN to have been right all along.

    • Agree: Tennessee Jed
  108. White people are not going to fight for a shabbos goy race traitor. Furthermore, the political distinction isn’t left versus right. It’s jew versus Aryan.

    • Agree: nokangaroos
  109. Wokechoke says:
    @KenR

    It’s very important in assassinations to spin your own narrative as it suits your own purposes. Don’t flinch or hesitate. Or someone else will capitalise on it.

  110. @kiwk

    How did it happen?

    Israeli arrogance.

    The Israeli elite got played by the Palestinian resistance into thinking everything was hunky-dory in the open air prison camp of Gaza

    While all the time the resistance was digging tunnels and preparing for a strategic, squatter colony ending surprise attack on 10/7

    As we have seen from Israel’s inability to defeat the resistance in the battle of Gaza, 10/7 was proof positive that Israel is a Paper Tiger

  111. muh muh says:
    @muh muh

    FWIW, I don’t believe Quinn’s glib dismissal of Kirk’s (former) pro-Israel position satisfies the demand for drawing sufficient attention to our overlords.

    Yes, he mentions Israel… perfunctorily, dismissively, as if it isn’t the linchpin issue of our time.

    This essentially spoils the remainder of his argument.

    • Replies: @Madbadger
  112. Rich23 says:
    @Mike Robeson

    Thanks.
    No

    OTOH, try the cut-n-paste function or type it into a search engine. Sometimes ‘web search’ pops up just by highlighting the text.
    Then you’re off to the races.

  113. Fumanchu says:

    For anyone who wants good measured commentary on the assassination, Ron Unz is interviewed on the Coffee and a Mike podcast. Ron does a great job at noticing the crucial details of the event, but also putting it in a larger context of what the motivation would be to assassinate Kirk.

    Cui bono?

  114. Ataulf says:

    You’re really screwed up.

  115. @WillyDBilliams

    Mr. Malcolm Little was killed by blacks.

    Mr. Kirk despite his views regarding blacks was killed by a fellow white.

    The one very similar aspect is in their choice to openly and directly confront those of a different opinion.

    He was not Dr. King, his appeal was very limiteed to one population set. Whereas Dr. King’s appeal was on multiple sides of many ailes. The magnitude of Dr, King’s passing is hard to compare – a serious global reprecussions.

    Those are the only nexus I make. Not in politics intent, disposition very different. He is much closer to Mr. Malcolm Little than Dr. King.

    —————-

    And, you are incorrect on the white assessment. Most Jews that we are discussing are in fact, European whites. Now for political reasons, they enjoy the advantage of playing both cards as it suits their view and advance. But clearly jewish, was second to their skin color in the western world. That is exactly what gave them inroads into every area of US politics, finance, entertainment, elaw, etc. So you are wrong. While they certainly can be mtually exclusive, the mainstay even into the christian community that are diehard supporters of Isarel no matter. If jews of black or brown skin were in the fore — their influence —- seriously diminished if nonexistent.

    The Mr. Kirk I know was primarily the man who confrontations about faith and practice on college campuses. Oddly enough, it was among the youth that Malcolm Little was promianet and impactful among whites and blacks — the intellectual and eneteratinment set.

  116. “Thanks to Donald Trump releasing the FBI’s MLK documents in his first term, we all know that the Left’s favorite deceased icon was a plagiarist, a philanderer, a fraud, a hypocrite, a tax cheat, and a tool for the Communist party.”
    ****************************************************************************

    MLK was also a moron who could barely read . He took the GRE test in the early 50s and got 270 on the math section and 350 on the verbal (same 200-800 scale as the SAT). Those are horrible numbers.

  117. “we need to convince President Trump to make October 14th, Charlie’s birthday, a federal holiday.”
    ************************************************************************

    HAHA. Now that’s a clever idea and will make liberals explode. If a scumball like MLK gets a day ,
    why not a fairly decent guy like CJK?

  118. It is killing several birds with one stone of the globalists and their media.
    1. To distract attention from Gaza genocide escalation and the Trump Administration looking away of that
    2. To distract attention from the Ukrainian drone provocation the US betrayal of Eastern Europe(German-Russian talks in Baku Azerbaijan on Poland balkanization) and 24 million Azerbaijani disturbances in Iran
    3. To distract attention from cloud-based treasury market, stable coins as a artificial demend for a debt propping up the entire system and giving them the lifeline they need to weaponize stable coins and devalue the dollar.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  119. JPS says:
    @Wokechoke

    Jesse Jackson ran for President in the 80s and he was given a lot of attention as if it were a serious run. If MLK hadn’t been killed, he’d have have worn out his welcome long before that point.

    It’s important to remember that 1980 was 38 years before 2008. McCain’s candidacy was intended to fail. There a very large number of people who died in those 38 years, and a very large number of people born in the 20 years after 1980 who were able to vote in 2008.

    If you understand how those old-timers thought about blacks, (including Democrats) in the 1980s, you’d understand that Martin Luther King’s “fame” – while real – was mostly television generated and would have had much less impact on anyone raised before the TV was commonplace. (my mother, who is an American “boomer” although the town she grew up in was rather behind the times, didn’t have TV until she was 9). Anybody raised when public discussion of black deficiencies was commonplace and widely accepted would not have fallen for an MLK ticket.

    I don’t think any blacks rioted because they thought MLK would be President someday. They rioted because MLK was a Communist and the hard left, the revolutionary Left, actually believed they were going to have a revolution in the 1960s. A revolution more in line with past revolutions, not just a matter of extremely rapid social change like the “Quiet Revolution” (where the institutional Catholic Church was basically completely suborned within only a few short years, therefore offering NO RESISTANCE to cultural changes) in Quebec.

    • Disagree: JPS
    • Replies: @JPS
  120. @anonymous

    That’s the moment she remembered insisting they put a double indemnity assassination clause in Charlie’s insurance policy. Lucky Larry gave her the idea.

  121. Prudentia says:
    @Prudentia

    Tim Dillon Interviews Max Blumenthal (who knew Kirk for 10 yrs.) on Why Kirk was Killed & Possible Israeli Involvement

  122. @The Real World

    My suggestion: You might want to start watching a whole lot less of the so-called “news,” which is nearly all bought and paid for lies and propaganda for the express purpose of getting people stirred up and aboard the hate/fear train these days. (All the better to cleverly insert themselves and/or their agenda as the only possible “solution” – Advertising 101) Just a thought.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  123. @Achmed E. Newman

    LOL! I’ve found that talking to the under 25’s is pretty much impossible these days, as their attention is always devoted to their phones. Not to mention, sadly, age discrimination is alive and well these days, just as it was when I was their age. Taking or giving counsel to their elders is simply unthinkable for most.

  124. peterAUS says:
    @Commentator Mike

    From Axios

    … It’s pretty clear that Robinson’s roommate knew a lot and didn’t say anything after the killing…
    …Federal and state law enforcement officials also are examining leftist groups in Utah to see whether they had knowledge of the alleged shooter’s plans beforehand, or if they lent material support to him afterward….
    ..One of those groups eliminated its social media profile after the shooting, Axios has learned….
    …the accused shooter recently had a conversation in which someone said Kirk “was spreading hate and was full of hate.”…

    The second and last paragraph/sentence in particular.

    We know now what happened in general. Those couple details will be flushed out in less than a week.

    The only important thing is will the blowhard fraud execute his duty.
    Or how that individual and his team are going to manage the magatards. Proabably the same way as with Epstein case.

    We’ll see…..

  125. @TKK

    Charlie Kirk did more to move Trump back into the White House than any other individual.

    Umm… sorry. That honor belongs to Kamala Harris – with an invaluable assist from none other than “Sleepy Joe” Biden and the Enablers – by a country mile.

  126. Madbadger says:
    @muh muh

    Quinn’s argument was also spoiled when he called Kirk a staunch conservative and then a few paragraphs later he called Kirk a moderate republican. I would have said Kirk was slightly left of moderate but either way he was not conservative. He was a Republican party shill, neo-con, gay apologist, and Israel supporter. He is nothing like an Icon for anyone. He was also a politician and that alone is damning. He should not have been murdered but I cannot defend him.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  127. @Jameson

    ” … we have reached peak DEI in the West …”

    Sir: One guinea and sixpence say you’re mistaken.

  128. Madbadger says:
    @Gene Su

    Your comment fails to mention that Tyler Robinson had a transgender room mate. I think that means something.

    • Replies: @Christoph88
  129. JPS says:
    @JPS

    28 years, still, long enough. Sorry, I’ve really lost it at this point. All I know is that there weren’t a lot of old people I knew in the early 80s that were still around in 2008, and they were often in their 90s if not close to 100 by that point.

  130. @hjjkksbdvekdndvd

    Like England’s Tommy Robinson (Rabbison) Kirk seems to be a civic nationalist.
    Like Trump they serve their jew masters to preserve The Isramerican Empire and in Robinson’s case The Yiddish Empire. That white liberationists will be replaced with mud races is of no concern to them.
    Jew S.A. Jew S.A., Jew S A. Right MAGA Morons?

    • Agree: Christoph88
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  131. Anonymous[939] • Disclaimer says:

    Charles James Kirk was his real name. Interesting…

    Wasn’t Charlie a namecalling in Vietnam? 🙂

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  132. @Madbadger

    This whole thing is really pushing all of the TrumpTards’ buttons now.

  133. Is the public simply being skillfully deceived?
    In a fake world of fake news not impossible.

    https://rumble.com/v6ywtrc-charlie-kirk-widow-bizarre-act-echoes-sandy-hook-treason-exposes-controlled.html

    https://rumble.com/v6yveco-dustin-nemos-ryan-veli-volttear-victor-hugo-analyze-sgt-report-charlie-kirk.html

    Even fake blood would have a much less
    dramatic effect on a dark T-shirt. Further-
    more, white symbolizes innocence and is
    meant to symbolically clothe the martyr.

    • Agree: Christoph88
  134. BobbyToo says:

    Thanks Spencer.

    It’s been postulated, see; Kevin Barrett’s most recent piece here on Kirk, that since Charlie was beginning to turn against Israel, and change his stance on Gaza – who shut down the peaceful college protests? The 1st Amendment and the Constitution was what Kirk was all about to college kids. So you see, his back was against a wall. The Jews had turned him into a fraud. He had no choice but to turn against them. And because of his enormous influence with Americas next generation, they had to get rid of him.

    I do hope that something positive for us comes because of his passing Spencer. I really do.

  135. @Jim H

    Talk about self-parody: why use four syllables — ‘enslaved people’ — instead of just one — ‘slaves’? Pencil-necked, pointy-headed academics just can’t help theyselves [sic].

    I do not mean to defend the morons you quote. You rightly identify them as idiots who have no idea how dumb they are, nor who their superiors might be.

    But, there is a difference in meaning between “slaves”, and “enslaved people”. The use of slaves as the subject directs the focus on the individuals who are slaves. That differs from referring to an “enslaved people”, which is putting a focus on the group. It is a fine point, for sure, but it is a point nonetheless.

    You might ask, “But isn’t that a distinction without a difference?” No, it is not. The ability to make that distinction is the same as that of the ignorance in many who confuse pleasant jew or black individuals with the reality of those groups’ inevitable behavior.

    You bring up a very interesting issue, though. Those “pointy-headed academics” demonstrated that they understand the profound difference between considering the behavior of selected individuals and considering ethnic-group behavior. They take liberty to be egregiously inconsistent to serve their anti-White agenda.

    • Replies: @aspnaz
  136. Agent76 says:

    Sep 11, 2025 Feds *IDENTIFY* *SHOOTER* in Charlie Kirk Assassination
    
    Charlie Kirk was assassinated at Utah Valley University, and the FBI has released an image of a person of interest wearing a hat, sunglasses, and a long-sleeve black shirt, alongside a recovered Mauser .30-06 rifle with cartridges engraved with transgender and anti-fascist ideology.

  137. @Disinfected

    And I have a suggestion to someone apparently newer to information gathering/consumption. We are conversing ON A NEWS VENUE.

    There are many others – online, on regular TV and streaming, on the radio, in paper print. ETC, ETC. There are plenty of lies and propaganda “reported” on all of those as well.

    My thought is: Always be discerning about any information from anyone.

    I stand by my comment made to Matt.

    • Thanks: Disinfected
  138. Wokechoke says:
    @Madbadger

    Republican Loyalist fits best.

    Party True another fit.

  139. Wokechoke says:
    @JudeoSatanism

    Bingo he’s a little bit like Tommy Robinson, kosher approved and constantly setting up clownish big tents that Ben Shapiro eyes covetously.

    • Thanks: Christoph88
  140. @Alanchik

    Alanchik,

    Kirk had a personality profile. The better we understand that profile the better we understand his actions.

    Before graduating from high school I had an aversion to reading. No books not even comic books. Upon graduation I had a very strong affinity for autobiographies and biographies of famous and important people. Were they different when they were young?

    I seek to understand those who stand out, like Ron Unz. Why is he different? He is an
    interesting character.

    I am not famous but I did stand out, probably the only one who graduated from high school without reading a book. I didn’t do homework, only schoolwork. If I didn’t get it at school, too bad.

    My circumstances after graduation were anything but normal. Nothing alarming, but I seemed to be on some kind of a journey.

    I can relate to many of your statements. Even before reading all of David Icke’s books, my ideas, even at a young age were escaping the gravity of conventional wisdom.

    This brings me to your personality type. Is there anything you noticed at a young age that made you feel different from those around you?

    • Replies: @Alanchik
  141. @Poupon Marx

    Good points, Poupon. I wasn’t born knowing that jews are my mortal enemy. In fact, I was born into worshipping them. It takes a while to figure your way out of that. You have to eat a lot of sacred cow.

    Perhaps Charlie never got the chance to get to consuming all the beef, and on the other end of that continuum, we have ancients who have happily steeped in corruption (like Dump and Biden). I suppose there’s no small wonder that the political circus is populated by the too old and too young. The Powers must have learned a lot from JFK.

    But standards… how shall we measure “our leaders”? With a standard that is beneath our own culpability, or a high standard? I think we’ve tried the former. It’s time to hold all leaders to very difficult standards.

  142. kiwk says:
    @Wokechoke

    That would be the worst thing to happen for Turning Point or Kirk’s efforts to be seized by the tiny hats.

    First, CK was being red-pilled on the israhell issue.

    Second, it is so arrogant of Shapiro to think that he could do the same as CK. CK was a genuine christian. Shapiro’s arrogance would never attract the people like CK could do, not to mention that Shapiro’s only goal would be to brainwash the christians into believing that the Jews are the chosen race.

    Not to mention Shapiro dancing on CK’s grave immediately after he was assassinated. So typical of tiny hats – take over whatever they can.

    (I like Shapiro a lot on other topics, but I’ll never support him because of his devotion to his race, his belief in its supremacy, and his support of everyone else paying and dying to help israhell)

  143. @ServesyouallWhite

    …He was a somewhat strange looking man…

    Got your measure. Out of 100 words you chose to reveal your depth right here.

    Thank you for your glib transparency.

    • Replies: @ServesyouallWhite
  144. @Poupon Marx

    It’s also a call to follow suit.

    Sounds metrosexual to me. Pretty limp. If attempted it will be ineffective. The true course is going to take some time and involve a lot of integrity, which mimicking monkeys and jews is not.

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
  145. I honestly wasn’t surprised when I heard the news that poor Mr. Kirk was assassinated.

    I watched some of his videos on You Tube (where he’s speaking on university campuses).

    He didn’t seem to realise that it’s IMPOSSIBLE to have a civil debate with these people.

    It’s their way or the highway – there’s no middle ground.

    No amount of logic or coherent arguments is EVER going to sway these people.

    If you disagree with leftists then they’ll consider you to be a literal Nazi (and disposable).

    I learned the hard way to stop getting into political debates with these people.

    IT’S A COMPLETE AND TOTAL EXERCISE IN FUTILITY!

    • Disagree: EliteCommInc.
    • Replies: @JPS
    , @Anonymous
    , @EliteCommInc.
  146. @LechiaPolandman

    ‘Stable’ coins-as stable as Kamchatka.

  147. @Understory

    Everybody wants to be the Fuehrer.

  148. @KenR

    I believe that much of the Rightwing support for the genocidal Gaza Holocaust is psychopathic ie a psychological delight in and support for slaughtering untermenschen, and less an ideological or servile support for the Judaic Reich.

  149. ANON[122] • Disclaimer says:

    If these VERMIN JEWS are so smart they could have had an ACCIDENT ARRANGED and nobody would have HATED them more as they wouldn’t have been seen as the INNOCENTS.

    Yet this way the whole world will hate them more and more Nations will align against them

  150. Anonymous[250] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anti-Neocon

    Got news for you man. This shithole ain’t respected at all. All it is: is a Trump-hating, Jew-hating, brown-skin loving, self-loathing, conspiracy site. You all don’t believe anything that really happened is real. You make up your own reality.

    Guaranteed this assassination of literally Jesus Christ, Charlie Kirk, will be treated as a US gov’t sponsored event. Why not. Shit, all you see here is fake holocaust, fake moon landing, fake JFK assassination, fake 9/11, fake Covid-19.

    I know these old farts around here. They’re losers w no life but to waste here hating everything about…well everything. I’d call them nihilists.

    I wish they’d like their own White race more but they’re all nigger lovers so that ain’t gonna happen.

    • Troll: ServesyouallWhite, Quinn
    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Wokechoke
  151. Anonymous[250] • Disclaimer says:

    I say make commenters on every single platform post their identities. YT, faceberg, Tik Tac, Insta, Unz, all newspapers . If not, then get rid of comments. Starting w this site.

    That’ll get rid of all the tough guy keyboard warriors. Hell, they might even do something constructive for a change instead of sitting in front of a keyboard 8 hours a day.

    Who’s w me?

    • Replies: @Voltaria Voltaire
  152. peterAUS says:
    @Anonymous

    Be that as it may could you, kindly, point to ANY other Western online forum where one can mention Jewish Power in the works of the world affairs, and not get instant ban?
    Ah, yes, and have people who can put several paragraphs of thought together in one post.

    A couple of links would be much appreciated.

  153. Alanchik says:
    @socratesjr

    Yes. From a very young age I felt a kind of dissonance with what others accepted as “normal.” I couldn’t articulate it at the time, but I sensed the stories and beliefs around me didn’t add up. While others seemed comfortable inside them, I felt like I was standing slightly outside, observing. That quiet awareness — that mismatch — was the first sign that I was on a different track.

    A concrete example: even though I wasn’t religious, whenever I sat in the synagogue as a child, something felt off. The rituals and the stories didn’t resonate as truth, even though everyone around me treated them as sacred. That suspicion led me to question early on whether Yahweh was really God at all — and that seed of doubt shaped the course of my questioning ever since.

    • Replies: @socratesjr
    , @Snow Leopard
  154. JPS says:
    @bobby pellit

    He didn’t seem to realise that it’s IMPOSSIBLE to have a civil debate with these people.

    It’s their way or the highway – there’s no middle ground.

    No amount of logic or coherent arguments is EVER going to sway these people.

    If you disagree with leftists then they’ll consider you to be a literal Nazi (and disposable).

    I learned the hard way to stop getting into political debates with these people.

    IT’S A COMPLETE AND TOTAL EXERCISE IN FUTILITY!

    They are indeed, in some sense, subhuman.

    Their lock-step reaction to the overdose demise of George Floyd and their sympathy for “12 year old photograph” Trayvon Martin threatening to beat Zimmerman to death, as well as their fanatical support for abortion and sexual perversion point in that direction. Leftists, many of the professors and students, are in some sense more like wild beasts than human beings. I wouldn’t say they are irredeemable and worthy of death, but rather that they must be regarded in many contexts the same way as a reasonable person would regard dangerous animals.

  155. Anonymous[127] • Disclaimer says:

    So today the Utah Governor said that this Robinson guy, the designated patsy, has not confessed and is not cooperating at all with the cops.

  156. Anonymous[278] • Disclaimer says:

    Hey you all. I whittled every comment down into a TL;DR so y’all don’t have to comb thru them.

    IT’S DA JEWS!

    You’re welcome.

  157. @Sew Crates Hymerschniffen

    Thank you for your glib transparency.

    Don’t you have the ‘hymer’ of a life-sized cardboard cut-out to go schniffen?

    You would have a had a problem with my comment whether I mentioned Kirk’s appearance or not. Sorry chump, I do not deify or worship any human, IDGAF what race he is.

    Say hi to the congregation for me when you attend the church of a Jim Jones fucking successor, who most likely will be Waldo, from The Black Mirror.

  158. Anonymous[278] • Disclaimer says:
    @bobby pellit

    Damn dude. That’s a total common sense comment. What the hell you doing here?

  159. Thirdtwin says:

    Ben Shapiro is going to pick up Jesse Jackson’s bloody shirt and carry on Kirk’s work, minus those recent pesky doubts about Israel.

    • Agree: Wokechoke
  160. anon[144] • Disclaimer says:

    Well, you would be sorry to hear that his “conservative friends” had him killed.

    For few reasons:

    1/ He refused advances from his “friends” notably the butcher of Jaffa (tel aviv)
    2/ and refused to back down on his stance more and more critical about israel’s genocidal wars.
    3/ He called out Trump on his Epstein files, on X, 5 million views it seems. Enough for someone to want to silence him.
    4/ His “donors” (Jewish handlers) went raging against him following his awakening about what was really going on in occupied Palestine and about the control by Jews of the US media and politicians.
    5/ By eliminating this very popular figure his former “friends” killed 3 birds with the same bullet:
    – Silencing an awakened critic who would have bring with him countless followers
    – Distracting attention from “israel’ latest military disasters in Doha, against Yemen and of course from Trump’s Epstein files.
    – Finally, creating a myth out of their victims, the zionist scum and their fake “conservative’ cuks will be able to play the new martyr tune over and over…

    Martin Luther King or rather JFK/RFK?

  161. Roger says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    That may be true, but what does it have to do with the thrust of my argument?

  162. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Charles James Kirk was his real name. Interesting…

    Wasn’t Charlie a namecalling in Vietnam? 🙂

    Vietcong or VC, which in the international phonetic code is “Victor Charlie”. The Victor part was dropped because it didn’t seem appropriate to call your enemy “Victor”.

  163. Charlie Kirk Day would provide an endless annual merry-go-round,and as the years pass,the disparaging outlook and implied assumptions,the benefit of historical proceedings and current events.

    Some ideas are just so bad or poorly conceived they must be allowed to flourish.

    Hua Bin’s September 14 The Unz Review piece “Why is Charlie Kirk a big deal? is a strong argument for Spencer Quinn’s proposal.

  164. aspnaz says:

    In being assassinated, Charlie Kirk has now proven the moral superiority of the Right.

    Really? So in being genocided the Palestinians have proven their moral superiority over the Israelis? How does being killed prove anything about you? Your statement is devoid of logic.

    • Replies: @Jameson
  165. @ServesyouallWhite

    Try to keep on topic. My criticism of your comment contained zero support for Zionist Charlie. You are a victim of your silly assumption.

    Glib, shallow, and silly. Keep it up.

    • Replies: @ServesyouallWhite
  166. @Anonymous

    Ironically presented by “anonyonous 250”

  167. aspnaz says:
    @mark green

    To remain a leader of the campus youth, Kirk had to change his message to reflect the thinking of the youth, otherwise he would be seen as irrelevant. At the same time Israel, having given Kirk funds indirectly throughout his career, was not prepared to let this leader lead his followers if that mean’t leading them away from Israel.

    True leaders follow from the front. You can only lead by telling people what they want to hear.

    • Replies: @BobbyToo
  168. @Poupon Marx

    Memories… when I was probably 16 and trying to learn guitar I went to a tiny outdoor expo at a country guitar shop. One of the local guitar heroes picked up the most expensive demo guitar, a prototype G&L with natural maple finish and ebony board, plugged in and jammed with a bass player and drummer who happened to be sitting there. He played Great White Buffalo, and many details of that experience are etched permanently in my mind.

    I think I got distracted from your intended point, maybe, but I thank you nonetheless.

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
  169. aspnaz says:
    @Roger

    Life has become cheap. People are so used to murders and other violence that it hardly registers any more. People have become amoral, their lack of outrage over the act rather than the victim, proves what you are saying. A murder is a murder, regardless of the victim or the perpetrator, or used to be.

  170. Anonymous[939] • Disclaimer says:

    Charlie Kirk Shooting HIDDEN TRUTH: Israel & the COLLAPSE of US Empire

  171. 迪路 says:
    @The Real World

    The clown Trump held a funeral for the clown Krik.
    This is quite reasonable.
    I just hope that there will be more and more kriks in the United States, so that we can watch the kriks discussing some clown-related topics.
    Well, I’m Chinese.

  172. Jameson says:
    @aspnaz

    The so-called “Palestinians” prove their idiocy every day they continue pretending to be some important ancient civilization that must be preserved at any cost. The prove their idiocy supporting idiotic terrorists who only bring more death and destruction upon their own neighborhoods.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  173. Anon[664] • Disclaimer says:

    Saw a Mark Levin repeat show where CK and Levin both agree that having universal health care means you can’t have private property. Universal health care is stealing from hard working people. Being a good person means you have a job to go to every day, if you don’t well that’s because you’re a bad person, not right with God and to hell with you. Standard Puritan ignorance and cruelty.

    The discussion was standard jingoistic propaganda cliches; our rights come from God, and we have liberty, liberty above all; the freedom to starve, and the cliche about how we can’t possibly be racist because non -whites come here and we fought a war to end slavery. Never mind the genocide of Natives. Never mind Jim Crow laws and red lining. Just arrogant platitudes how we’re better than all people and nations on earth ever, and if you disagree, you’re brainwashed or evil. And they both lambasted young people on the Left who don’t rely on, as you say, stale books from the past for their political beliefs. Having political beli

    • Agree: Shylock Sholomo
  174. Is this article meant to be read as a satirical piece making fun of Charlie Kirk mourners, or is Andrew Anglin the only one on this site commenting on Charlie Cuck’s beautiful death who isn’t fake and gay and needing to man up? Genuine question, would appreciate an answer, since I need to know if authors like this are really such pussies or they’re convincing funnymen—should I be laughing at or with them? Like Anglin wrote, relax bro, it was just Charlie Kirk.

  175. Some will prolly say the Right has its Horst Wessel.

  176. More like JFK and GEORGE LINCOLN ROCKWELL!!

  177. Anymike says:
    @N. Joseph Potts

    It now turns out, Tyler Robinson was living with an individual who was male-to-female transgender. The relationship evidently was amorous rather than a roommate or housemate situation. That adds more fuel to the fire. Exactly what fuel, I’m not quite sure yet. Let’s just say, you twist people’s souls, don’t be surprised when they end up with twisted souls. I’m speaking of the politica left.

  178. Anymike says:
    @Thorunz

    I’ve entertained an interesting thought. We know of only of a few cases in America of attempted or successful megacide (the murder of a prominent person) in which the weapon was a rifle. To wit, the failed attempt on Gen. Edwin Walker in 1963, the murder of civil rights activist Medgar Evers in 1963, the assassination the President John F, Kennedy in 1963, the murder of Martin Luther King in 1968, the failed attempt on Donald Trump in 2024 and the murder of activist Charlie Kirk in 2025. If I have missed someone, point it out.

    The scorecard here is four successful attempts out six. The attempt on Trump was a near miss and did produce a superficial wound. Only the attempt on Walker missed entirely.

    We debate how easy or difficult these shots might have been and how much skill a shooter would actually need to have made these shots. The shot at Walker was probably more in the realm of a potshot where the shooter paused, quickly fired a shot and left the scene. Lee Harvey Oswald is suspected in the Walker attempt but it is not proven. I have never heard of an attempt to recover the bullet although it hit a structure and therefore could have been recovered. The other thing about the Walker attempt is that Oswald did not own a car. If he was the shooter in the Walker case, how did he get there and how did he leave the scene? It’s a question.

    The scorecard for the rest of the attempts therefore is five out five. I’m on the side of the idea that the shots were not extremely difficult except for those attributed to Oswald. That leaves us with four attempts made from low-difficulty sniper positions and no known failures. Given the fact that the accused shooters in these attempts were people who had not had intensive training and did not practice regularly, this means that there have to have been people who missed that we have never heard about. Just saying. It’s another question we are not be given the answer to.

  179. anon[363] • Disclaimer says:

    It figures the so-called ‘right’ would turn this unexceptional, mediocre, anti-intellectual college dropout into a martyr. He was primarily an entertainer and provocateur. And the moronic USA loves nothing more than being entertained and provoked.

    Think about it. His claim to fame is ‘destroying!’ confused college freshmen in debates. So impressive.

    Any time he debated anyone with any expertise, depth of knowledge and/or debate experience he was completely out of his depth,

    Let’s face it. This is the martyr the US deserves. He never had an original thought in his life, just like the majority of Americans.

  180. RIP Chuck, you learned the hard way that you don’t debate evil.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  181. aspnaz says:
    @Poupon Marx

    To take one lesser quality and use it to judge the totality of a person, intrinsically or extrinsically, shows immaturity and a weak mind and character.

    Kirk was funded by the Jews, he blindly followed the Jews, his whole organisation was supported by the Jews, he made it without a degree through supporting Israel …. his support for Israel and the gaza genocide was hardly a “lesser quality”, it was the enitirety of the man and his work thus far.

    He pandered to his Israeli youth followers by questioning how Oct 7th could have happened, the same question many Israelis themselves have asked. He was not turning on Israel, he was trying to become more relevant to his beloved Israel’s youth.

    Kirk was a representative of Israel in the USA; that was the entirety of what he was, he even believed that God would bless him for doing that. Your pretense at superiority belies a weak or disingenuous mind.

    • Thanks: saoirse
  182. aspnaz says:
    @Sew Crates Hymerschniffen

    People can and often does refer to the individual so your distinction does not make sense. The only actual distinction is that enslaved people have been enslaved, whereas slaves may have been born slaves so were never enslaved.

    It is a subtle difference and I am sure it is not seen as a valid distinction in the handicapped minds of the left wing virtue signallers. They are all slaves. The good cause fanatics want to refer to them as people, as in people of colour, not just coloureds, that makes them feel better about their miserable lives.

  183. aspnaz says:
    @TKK

    Pompous snowflake, why would mature adults care about a kindergarten teacher who says nothing new and keeps on reading bible stories for his Jew god in order to corale votes for the orange jew and the other dangerous, right wing, Israel-linked lunatics? Mature adults are more likely to be keeping their eyes on the orange jew and the other dangerous, right wing, Israel-linked lunatics. No?

    • Agree: saoirse
    • Troll: Jameson
  184. ariadna says:

    Was his back in May of THIS year???

  185. BobbyToo says:
    @aspnaz

    That’s it Aspnaz. That’s what happened.

    The Jews had to take him out. They already lost a lot of America’s future leaders because of the Gaza genocide and their, the Jews shutting down the student protests which are protected under the constitution. Kirk would have become a total fraud to, and lost all credibility to those he reached out to most, American college students if he did not begin to criticize Israel. If he would have continued, there’s a good chance that the real Nazis, would have been finally exposed on a mass scale. The cat would have finally been let totally out of the bag.

  186. No, I don’t want to deport tens of millions of non-whites who were born in America to legal citizens.

    Is anyone suggesting that? Straw man alert!

    But it is long past time to shut down the anchor baby racket. People now travel from country to country as casually as going from Dallas to Fort Worth. It’s insane that anyone born in the US, including via birthright tourism, should automatically become an American citizen. Do you think an American Muslim couple spending a few weeks in Tel Aviv, who have a baby in their spare time, would be rewarded with Israeli citizenship for their offspring?

    I seem to remember Rabbi Trump said he was going to end birthright citizenship. He’s been almighty quiet about that lately.

  187. Trinity says:

    Charlie Kirk was a watered down cuckservative (((civic nationalist))) who like Trump is/was kosher approved. That is the reason for all this over the top coverage of his death. By not address White Americans biggest problem, Charlie Kirk actually did more harm than good.

    The TOP ADVOCATE FOR WHITE CIVIL RIGHTS for the last 50 years belongs to…….

    DAVID DUKE

    No one even close

    • Agree: saoirse
  188. Jim H says:

    ‘ Lawmakers, we need to convince President Trump to make October 14th, Charlie’s birthday, a federal holiday.’ — Spencer J Quinn

    Please, don’t do it.

    Jews will one-up you by demanding two holidays: October 7th, the worst tragedy to befall the noble Jewish people since The Holocaust™; and October 21st, birth date of Benjamin Netanyahu, Prince of Peace and Prime Minister of Israel.

    These have nothing to do with America and Americans, you feebly protest. Well, yes. But neither does the government-subsidized US Holocaust™ Memorial Museum.

    Indeed, that’s the whole point: to make the shackles of occupation bite a little harder.

    On your feet or on your knees, vassal.

  189. @Shylock Sholomo

    Is he really dead? Sound crazy? Not to me, really. I haven’t seen any video past where he starts bleeding and slumping to his left. Where is the rest of what happened? Aaahh, we haven’t seen it — have you?

    Then, there’s a mini clip of some guys carrying something, supposedly Kirk, to an SUV. Really?

    Then, his widow gave that unbelievably strange performance to the public and it included intimate moments with his (supposed) body. Why do any of that? Plus her conduct was nothing short of bizarre. Some are calling her a crisis actor.

    I could go on but, you might find this video analysis as interesting as I did. Scroll slightly to where you see CK and watch a few minutes about the filming of “the kill”. https://gemmaodoherty.substack.com/p/charlie-kirks-wife-bids-farewell

    • Agree: Half Norwegian
  190. Sarita says:

    Soon the world will forget that Gaza was wiped off the map, and Hollywood Jews will make wonderful films about how Israelis, after October 7, 2023, were the architects of their own freedom.

    Nothing. We have lost as humanity forever.

    Still, Half a million likes here 👇

    https://twitter.com/AdameMedia/status/1961011711026045046?t=8eMufRDAyr3fZKKfh1nMNQ&s=19

  191. Anon[467] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Who cares as long he’s gone.

  192. @Steve Penfield

    You are correct in your list of accomplishments of Charlie Kirk. It is a shame there are so many doltish disciples of Kant on this site who dismiss him because he wasn’t perfectly aligned with their own personal manifestos. Why hold someone to perfection when it is unattainable? He was on his own journey of personal growth, and he was bringing quite a large number of young people with him.

    If some of these dolts could actually free themselves from their Barcaloungers, they might be able to get to a window, where they would see that there are an awful lot of young people that are extremely angry over this assassination, and are determined to face the monster head on.

    • Agree: Guest Perfect
    • Troll: ServesyouallWhite
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  193. Eric135 says:

    The young people Kirk inspired will decide what his legacy is. Borrowing from Chuckie Schumer, the Left has unleashed the whirlwind, and now it will pay the price.

    That price will be a more favorable climate for whites and conservatives, and a less favorable one for liberals, leftists, globalists, Jews and nonwhites.

    And it will not be forgotten that – in latter days – Charlie Kirk turned against the Jews and Israel.

  194. @James Scott

    Charlie was not smart he just chose the low hanging fruit of idiotic leftism to debate. When he was confronted by a Groyper he went into jew mode and tried to personally attack them because he knew if he tried to debate them he would look foolish.

    “Jew Mode” and “personal attacks” ring a bell.

    David Cole, a repentant “Holocaust denier” and a Jew, recently went on the personal attack against me when I gave a little pushback on a snarky article of his based on the Tucker Carlson and David Collum interview, the interview where Collum said there might not have been a Holocaust if the USA sided with Hitler, against Stalin, during WWII. The outlandish level of nasty, potty-mouth, name calling he gave me was so Jewish that I had to laugh: The short, trollish-looking Jew was making a living parody of himself.

    [MORE]

    Below is David Coles article, after that is my comment on his article, and after that is his hilarious reply to my comment on his article (Hint: He’s worried about Holocaust history being memory holed – because of Elon Musk “tweets” – as if that could happen):

    https://bestservedcole.substack.com/p/maybe-there-wouldnt-have-been-a-holocaust

    My quickly written, not-too-thought-out, comment:

    “You know, of course, that David Collum doesn’t owe you a thing. That he took the time to reply to your questions – several times – is a lot more than many others in his shoes (getting a nation-wide third degree) would have done.

    Not to be an ass (I actually like you, your sense of humor, and wish you well), but don’t you ever get sick of droning on and on about the Jews and the Holocaust? You do know that other innocent people besides Jews died – by the tens of millions – during WWII.

    A prime example: Well over a million German elderly, women, and children died when they were forced marched out of their centuries-old homelands in the winter after the war was lost. A German toddler, baby, or granny freezing/starving to death is no less innocent than a Jewish toddler, baby, or granny freezing/starving to death.

    Here’s another example: Eisenhower pulled a little “trick” and stripping surrendered Nazi POW’s of
    POW status, then putting them without food and shelter on a flood plan to die by the tens of thousands was a War Crime. Yet we never hear of it, it’s just Holocaust, Holocaust, Holocaust.

    This one would have been a doozy of a massacre if the Jews who wanted it had gotten away with it:
    You must know that if Roosevelt’s righthand man, a Jew named Henry Morgenthau, had it his way all the Germans, over 30 million of them, would have been worked/starved to death as punishment for how the Jews were treated by The Third Reich. Luckily, when this Jewish plan was exposed,
    American Christians were so disgusted by it that it was immediately scrapped.

    Why not write a little article on that?”

    The Morgenthau Plan:

    Now David Cole’s, in full Jew mode, comment on my comment:

    “You can go fuck yourself, retard. You betray your emotional fragility by feeling the need to deflect from Holocaust history. “What about the Germans? What about the POW’s?” Well, there’s not a well-funded campaign to erase THEIR tragedies from the historical record. The world’s wealthiest man doesn’t tweet that THEIR tragedies are hoaxes. But you, big strong white man, your knees buckle when reminded of the Holocaust. You’re WEAK, a faggot, a sniveling whining little sissy. Worse than a ghetto black. Worthless. I’ve written about the Morgenthau Plan dozens of times, homo. But it can’t be enough for you, you frightened little child who finds Holocaust history so scary. In part I keep writing about the Holocaust because I know it makes girly-boys like you so sad. Be sad, pathetic loser. As for Collum “owing,” we ALL owe explanations for incendiary thing we say to large audiences. It’s called responsibility. Tucker shirked his, so I just picked up the slack. You’re just emotionally hurt by the fact that I was mean to a Hitler fan. You effeminate, mincing little queen. Now go die alone. Or at least die somewhere else: you’re banned from here.”

    Bases on David Cole’s hissy fit, it looks like my relatively tame comment almost gave this Jew a heart attack!

    LOL

    I noticed that Cole has turned off commenting to this article, a first. I wonder if my comment, and others that came along like it, had anything to do with it.

    • Replies: @saoirse
  195. @Trinity

    Charlie Kirk was a watered down cuckservative (((civic nationalist))) who like Trump is/was kosher approved. That is the reason for all this over the top coverage of his death.

    Once Charlie Kirk was cut down by a bullet, all hope of a balanced appraisal of his life became impossible for most people. Being shot to death does that to a reputation. Lincoln, JFK, MLK, now Charlie Kirk instantly became larger than life. People project their thoughts and emotions, both positive and negative, onto them.

    From the relatively little I know about Charlie, he seems to have been a good-hearted and honest political conservative (rather than one cynically pretending), though hardly of the dissident right. I don’t much care for his dragging Christianity into every issue, although it was probably effective in building a movement.

    Whatever my reservations about the man, the widespread attention and rhetoric his death has resulted in is refreshing compared with the folly of the riots honoring George Floyd.

  196. saoirse says:
    @kiwk

    “kiwk” is it? kike would be more appropriate.
    Telling me to pay attention reminds me of the dimwit in the movie Idiocracy saying repeatedly “it’s got electrolytes”. The gist of my comment went right over your pointed little head.

    • Replies: @kiwk
  197. because Charlie Kirk was part of the American Right—if not a brother, then a close cousin.

    But why is he part of the right?

    Where is the line between on the right and Evangelical shock jock entertainer?

    I’m completely serious.

    I don’t see why we should consider him to be a political leader.

    He lined up indoctrinated White students and humiliated them for youtube clicks. What a guy. Line up confused and indoctrinated students and made a permanent youtube record of them being embarrassed. As if it is hard to show that confused freshmen are confused. I got bored debating indoctrinated liberals and started viewing them as the deceived and not the enemy. Charlie Kirk viewed them as a great way to make a living. Kind of like how tasteless radio acts like Howard Stern will use confused and victimized working class Whites for entertainment. Oh but it’s ok if Charlie Kirk does it because he will quote some Bible verses and nod to minimal government. That makes it all fine.

    Con Inc is still a load of bullshit and Charlie Kirk didn’t change that.

    It is still fake opposition that is terrified of having to come to place like Unz and answer basic questions about race. Completely terrified. They need the sanctuary of controlled debate just like the left.

    • Agree: ServesyouallWhite
  198. @Luus Kanin

    You are correct in your list of accomplishments of Charlie Kirk. It is a shame there are so many doltish disciples of Kant on this site who dismiss him because he wasn’t perfectly aligned with their own personal manifestos. Why hold someone to perfection when it is unattainable?

    If some of these dolts could actually free themselves from their Barcaloungers

    I don’t own a Barcalounder and I’ve never quoted Kant.

    I just have this rather basic moral standard that if someone says some kids are starving then we should probably investigate it. We should probably look into it and try to determine if the accusation is true or not.

    What we should not do is baselessly try to claim that the UN is lying. Charlie Kirk claimed to be Christian and yet did not Google “starving kids Gaza” to learn that the main Christian non-profit that feeds children does not believe it is a UN conspiracy.

    Charlie Kirk did try claiming that the accusation of starving Gaza children was just a liberal media/UN conspiracy against the West, correct? You aren’t going to deny that happened?

    Are you going to argue that being honest about starving children is an unrealistic moral standard?

    The dolts are weak defenders like yourself that will defend any perceived opposition no matter how heinous. The next Con Inc leader could rape a goat on live television while hailing the devil and you would tell us to not be so judgmental because there aren’t a lot of conservative leaders and he did quote Ezekial in the previous program.

    • Agree: ServesyouallWhite
    • Replies: @Luus Kanin
  199. @bobby pellit

    It depends on the nature of the relationships, the venue and the environment

  200. @Jameson

    Evil to the bone. I doubt that any German Nazi was so diabolical.

    • LOL: Jameson
  201. Eric135 says:
    @Wokechoke

    “Shapiro is going to pick up that blood-stained microphone.”

    He can try, but he won’t succeed.

    Charlie couldn’t have turned conservative youth against Israel. Only Israel could. Once that happened – once the youth were outraged and disgusted by Israel – Charlie had to fall in line behind them in order to maintain his credibility. And I think Charlie was sincerely outraged and disgusted as well.

    Jews like Shapiro never consider the possibility that they are the reason why people dislike them. They think they’re God, and we’re just stupid goyim who can be gaslighted and manipulated. They think politics is a bunch of empty vessels that they can fill with their propaganda. But politics doesn’t work that way. It’s not a one-way street. The “empty vessels” have a say in the process. The Jews think they can get us not to believe our lying eyes. But they can’t. Not in the long run.

    Charlie’s organization was aptly named Turning Point. A forum for uncensored dialog. A challenge to “prove me wrong.” In my view, it’s the best thing that has happened politically in this country. A turning point has indeed been reached. And it’s not in the direction that the Jews want.

    Of course, we have the usual suspects here dispensing their black pills. They are a waste of time. They don’t have a clue.

  202. @Biff

    “… and then they co-opt them as one of their own …”

    I used to have no interest in Charlie Kirk and his organization because of his rabid pro-Israel rhetoric.  His defense of Israel over the USS Liberty in direct opposition to the testimony of the survivors of that atrocity was just plain infuriating.  
    However, I have since learned that Charlie was beginning the process of “leaving the reservation” and was likely to take a good portion of his tribe with him.  His comments about Epstein being a Mossad asset were likely just part of his exodus. So, for the Zionists he was transforming from an asset into to a liability.  The solution to that problem would be to dramatically establish his legacy as a staunch Zionist, friend of Israel, etc (which Satanyahu began doing almost immediately) while stopping any further proliferation of what the Zionists fear most: “The Goyim know!”. And also co-opting the wave of emotional energy and distracting from the continuing genocide in Gaza. A Talmudic three-fer!
    /
    Always remember that for the Jews, Israelis, Zionists ALL is moral if it generates advantage or profit.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  203. @Understory

    Is that so? Then explain why WHITE people helped destroy six Muslim countries that resulted in some of the people that didn’t die, invade Europe and some parts of the U.S.
    White people will be fighting a seventh War for the very same individuals because they are too dumb and stupid to mutiny or turn their weapons on the destroyers. Instead they rather join the destroyers, get maimed, killed, and left homeless on the street with a pathetic sign to let everyone know they allowed themselves to be used and manipulated like that to end up in the situation they are in.

    • Agree: Guest Perfect
  204. Eric135 says:
    @anonymous

    People aren’t allowed to smile as they remember good times during their eulogies?

    You people are sick.

  205. JM says:
    @James Scott

    You are correct that Turning Point is an organization that jews made famous. Without the money from jews no would know who Charlie Kirk was.

    This is seriously questionable but according to documentary evidence, Chancellor Heinrich Bruning, in the late 20’s, Hitler was in receipt of significant funds from two Berlin based Jewish bankers. Kirk was no Hitler in the latters intended and most determined trajectory of liberating the German nation from the misery imposed by the (((French-Anglo-American))) imperialisms meant this was just a case of using Jews for a higher end. I’d say that Kirk’s ‘patriotic’ Republican work didn’t really require Jewish funding and had its own dynamic: since when were politicians independent of pressure from below and thus to self correction?

    Never.

    In short: the balance sheet of the mass work of Kirk, was very positive in mobilising the youth

    mainly

    not on the Jew Question, but on that of the fight against the manifestations of the subversive NWO in America. And this is the most effective manifestation of that since the unleashing of the New World Order on Western Nations. This is no small matter.

    Some people here mix up formally correct and very necessary understandings with what is critical in the real political process required to liberate the Western nations from the outrageous and deeply subversive actions of the outgrown spawn of Finance Capital, ideologically, but by no means exclusively, dominated by Jews acting ex officio at its pinnacle.

    By way of illustration, this historic and momentous event in London was ostensibly led and inspired by what I would subjectively call a dirty little Irish whore:

    Well here’s a Jew’s account of the event:

    Here we have real history which transcends all subjectivity and laughs at my “assessment” of its soon to be replaced “leader”….

    • Replies: @James Scott
  206. @ JPS

    They don’t believe in objective truth.

    They are moral relativists and everything is subjective.

    George Floyd was murdered because they BELIEVE that he was murdered.

    Trayvon Martin was murdered because they BELIEVE that he was murdered.

    Abortion is perfectly okay as the foetus is just a clump of cells (dehumanisation).

    Sexual perversion is perfectly okay because human sexuality is “fluid”.

    They don’t have a transcendent view of life.

    They don’t believe in the four last things (death, judgement, heaven or hell).

    They want to create their own heaven (utopia) here on this earth.

    They believe that human evolution is an ongoing process.

    Eventually humanity will reach the ‘omega point’ – the end of history.

    This (omega point) is when man becomes god like here on this earth (transhumanism).

    Anybody who disagree with their project is a disposable impediment.

    Political opponents can be murdered as “the end justifies the means”.

    Opponents can be murdered because “you have to crack a few eggs to make an omelette”.

    Trying to reason or debate with these people is an exercise in futility.

    Poor Mr. Kirk had to find this out the hard way.

  207. anon[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Abdul Alhazred

    Michael. His name was Michael and he wasn’t a Dr. Were he alive today he’d be a spokesperson for Israel’s right to exist/defend itself & be calling Abdul an antisemitic Hamas supporting terrorist. He’d be George Floyd’s most outspoken PR rep. He’d have melted the statue of Robert E Lee himself. He’d be the black John Hagee.

  208. “A house divided cannot stand.” Abraham L. #16

  209. @Alanchik

    Very interesting Alanchik,

    Yes. From a very young age I felt a kind of dissonance with what others accepted as “normal.”

    I was born into a Catholic family, and at the age of about 5 years old, I rejected the superficial concepts that were preached to me. The concept of a Chosen People and the Jesus sacrifice made no sense. My parents enrolled me in a Christian high school, but it only took two years for them to tell my parents they did not want me back. I had a strong personality profile that challenged authority.

    The very first books that I read after high school were autobiographies and biographies. What does that mean?

    Personality traits have always been a curiosity for me. I had heard that Erroll Garner is a self taught jazz pianist who jumped on a piano at the age of 3 and never looked backed. Curious, I bought and listened to his Concert By The Sea and was stunned. What kind of personality traits can produce this?

    The Cult understands how to use personality traits and has set up a large network to recruit potential candidates for their agenda. Was Kirk recruited because he had certain strong personality assets and what kind of personality traits are they looking for? Surely personality traits come in all flavours, some good and some evil.

    • Agree: Alanchik
  210. @Eric135

    Jews like Shapiro never consider the possibility that they are the reason why people dislike them.

    I don’t know why Shapiro would consider that possibility when he has made millions by selling commercials on Fox to boomer conservatives that adore him.

    Charlie’s organization was aptly named Turning Point. A forum for uncensored dialog. A challenge to “prove me wrong.”

    His dog and pony show was to try and browbeat confused freshmen for the entertainment of Christian conservatives.

    That isn’t dialog.

    Another Con Inc entertainer that works within a controlled environment.

    He would never, ever debate a Con Inc libertarian based assumption like “deregulation is always best” with someone that actually knows the subject. Just as the liberal would never debate “race is just painty color” with anyone here. They both pick their formats to protect the ideology.

    Of course, we have the usual suspects here dispensing their black pills. They are a waste of time. They don’t have a clue.

    Oh is that how you describe dissenters?

    How many Con Inc talking heads will it take to defeat liberalism? Rush Limbaugh had literally millions of listeners and liberalism has successfully promoted the idea that you can become a woman by chopping off your balls and taking hormones. Is this winning?

  211. kiwk says:
    @saoirse

    Name calling is all you have because you are bereft of facts.

    • Replies: @saoirse
  212. @Eric135

    “Con, Inc.,” with all its faults and grifters, is infinitely preferable to the Satanic left. While the faggots and darkies hate Jews for slaughtering Arabs, they hate Whites as much as they hate Jews, for perceived historical crimes, and would kill us all.

    Republicans, and Trump, need to get rid of the filibuster, pack the courts, and pass legislation for same day, paper ballot elections. This would be entirely Constitutional.

    If they don’t, the Satanic left will.

    • Agree: Eric135
  213. Eric135 says:

    “[Kirk’s] dog and pony show was to try and browbeat confused freshmen for the entertainment of Christian conservatives. That isn’t dialog … He would never, ever debate a Con Inc libertarian assumption like ‘deregulation is always best’ with someone that actually knows the subject … [He’s] another Con Inc entertainer that works within a controlled environment. “

    As far as I know, it wasn’t just freshmen who he debated, but sophomores, juniors, seniors, graduate students, faculty, or anyone else in the vicinity who chose to take up the challenge. Any “world renowned expert” in any subject would have had the chance to debate him. The conversations were back and forth, not one way. Kirk participated in formal debates at both Oxford and Cambridge. At Cambridge, he debated a professor in addition to the students. So yes, it was dialog. As usual, you don’t know what you’re talking about. You, like the other dispensers of black pills here, just throw shit out there and hope it will stick.

    “How many Con Inc talking heads will it take to defeat liberalism? Rush Limbaugh had literally millions of listeners, and liberalism has successfully promoted the idea that you can become a woman by chopping off your balls and taking hormones. Is this winning?”

    Great job of taking things out of historical perspective. The idea that doctors can turn a man into a woman was accepted in 1952 in the case of Christine Jorgensen. There was no one with a big enough platform to challenge that idea, because the Left controlled the mainstream media: ABC, NBC, CBS, New York Times, Washington Post, etc. The intellectual class in the US, and the West generally speaking, have leaned Left going all the way back to the Bolshevik Revolution, and even beyond that to the French Revolution. The Right has been fighting an uphill battle ever since against Jewish money and a variety of gatekeepers who have been able to control the conversation. And during all that time, the Left has used its institutional control to radically change society. Well, that’s ending now. Liberalism has not successfully promoted the idea that you can become a woman by chopping off your balls and taking hormones. It has failed to succeed in doing that, and that’s why the Left is now desperate enough to shoot and kill someone like Charlie Kirk.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  214. @Sew Crates Hymerschniffen

    Not at all. The music IS the message and contains the message. The Great White Buffalo is a signal and inspiration. Persons under duress must toil and travail to retrieve their lost dignity, rights, and property.

    Please note the lyrics.

  215. @Eric135

    As far as I know, it wasn’t just freshmen who he debated, but sophomores, juniors, seniors, graduate students, faculty, or anyone else in the vicinity who chose to take up the challenge.

    Well of course it wasn’t limited to freshmen. The point was that he was trying browbeat the naive.

    Any “world renowned expert” in any subject would have had the chance to debate him. The conversations were back and forth, not one way.

    An expert in a subject would not travel to a college just to stand in line and have the chance at asking Kirk a single question which he could avoid and “move on” to the next one.

    A real debate requires a moderator which prevents one side from controlling the format and timing.

    Kirk participated in formal debates at both Oxford and Cambridge. At Cambridge, he debated a professor in addition to the students. So yes, it was dialog. As usual, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    I’ve watched some of the videos and they were not debate. He likes to browbeat liberal students for youtube clicks. Debating a liberal student is not some type of challenge.

    Since he controls the format that also means he gets to select the videos for the website. Of course he likes to post liberal White women throwing a tantrum. As if it is hard to get them to do that. It is like poking a cat. Super impressed.

    What he was doing was no more neutral than a Democrat controlled debate.

    Both Con Inc and liberalism fall to scrutiny. There are predicated on irrational beliefs.

    Great job of taking things out of historical perspective. The idea that doctors can turn a man into a woman was accepted in 1952 in the case of Christine Jorgensen.

    That doesn’t at all negate what I stated. Doctors once supported lobotomies, blood letting and thalidomide. That says nothing of the current culture.

    We currently have a culture where liberals have normalized gender transformations through surgery and hormones. That was not normalized in the 1950s. Most Democrats even support surgeries for minors:
    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/madelineleesman/2024/10/15/transgender-surgeries-for-minors-poll-n2646246

    That was not the case in the 1950s. Democrats tin the 1950s would be culturally far-right extremists by today’s standards.

    Liberalism has not successfully promoted the idea that you can become a woman by chopping off your balls and taking hormones

    Yes it has been successful as seen by the fact that medical community has been forced to accept the idea.

    Con Inc strategy is a failure. I wouldn’t even describe it as having coherent goals. I would describe it as Christian conservatives high fiving over Randian bullshit and making political entertainment shows while liberalism continues to make real gains.

    Con Inc is based on lies. They lie about race and minimal government. If first world living standards are merely from Christian morals and minimal government then Africa should be filled with first world countries. Con Inc reps like Charlie Kirk DO NOT want to discuss such things. They want to pull a Bible verse on anything related to race and then change the subject.

    I don’t see why anti-liberals such as myself should support a system based on lies when it continues to fail. The Rush Limbaugh / Fox News strategy of lying about “da unions/godless socialists” being the problem hasn’t worked. What is the point of backing a failed idea? I have had conservatives here admit that their side has to lie about race. Why? This all just amounts to controlled opposition. Liberalism is never fully challenged and Con Inc is just a pony show that is outside the real halls of power.

    • Agree: ServesyouallWhite
  216. saoirse says:
    @kiwk

    Stop projecting. It makes you look even weaker than you are, if that’s possible.

  217. @Sew Crates Hymerschniffen

    My criticism of your comment contained zero support for Zionist Charlie.

    The fact that you took the time to moan and whine like an estrogen-filled prick about my observation toward’s Kirk’s appearance was support for Kirk you vainglorious ass-sniffing moron.

    Your cretinous, half-witted retort is a spineless cop-out. No fucking wonder extermination is what’s on the White Race’s ‘plate for dinner’.

  218. saoirse says:
    @Felpudinho

    Cole spitting out venom is quintessential jew behavior.

    “Bases on David Cole’s hissy fit, it looks like my relatively tame comment almost gave this Jew a heart attack!”

    If only!

    • LOL: Felpudinho
  219. @John Johnson

    Whites have this tired old impotent formula of rallying behind some charlatan organization or individual only to slink away and disavow the bullshittery by pretending to never have aligned with whichever crockery in the first place-

    Wha? Tea Party? QAnon? Nope, never heard of them, always knew they were fake!

    Wait, you just said you never heard of them.

    That was not me! That was Splentavious Jenkins using his low IQ ventriloquism skills to put words in my high IQ mouth.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  220. @ServesyouallWhite

    Did your jewess mommy teach you to respond that way?

    • LOL: Eric135
    • Replies: @ServesyouallWhite
  221. @Alanchik

    Alanchik:

    Thank you for the clarity and depth of your insights into this issue. Your perspective is very similar to my own and I read all of your posts in order to help me clarify my own thoughts regarding the metaphysical dimension that engages what you call the “covenant.”

    The psychic draw of this “covenant” seems to hinge around an attachment to Yahweh. You write that you questioned whether Yahweh was really God at all, and your awakening proceeded from there.

    Having an interest in Hermeticism and Gnostic understandings, it seems to me that the role of Yahweh in all of this is pivotal. So please share with us how you view the influence of the Yahweh factor. In your view what is real here?

    Thank You

    Snow Leopard

    • Replies: @Alanchik
  222. Gay faggot article, absolutely embarrassing

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  223. @John Johnson

    “Dolts”! Ouch! I must say I don’t appreciate you trying to use my own words against me. It is like me landing an arrow and then you pulling it out and slinging it back in my direction. Find or make your own arrow, that way it shows you have real gumption.

    Okay, you don’t own a Barcalounger, but I am willing to bet dollars to doughnuts that you watch re-runs of The Golden Girls in your decades old La-Z-Boy.

    I agree with you on basic moral standards, and Israel being completely in the wrong on the Palestinian genocide. I agree Charlie Kirk was a shill for the state of Israel. I also understand that his organization was funded by Jewish money, and there was his great dilemma. How does one go about balancing personal choice with influences that compel one to do its bidding? How does one go about trying to do good with evil money given by evil people? The path of moral relativism is a mile wide, compared to the path of divine law, which the entrance to can be covered with thistles and thorns. To his credit, Charlie Kirk was changing his mind regarding Israel’s atrocities. He was trying to figure out how to walk the tightrope, and everyone knows that it can’t be done without an occasional tumble.

    Charlie Kirk was not perfect. He said some things that he shouldn’t have said. He looked away from things he shouldn’t have. He was assassinated because he used language that our enemies felt dangerous, to silence him and us. Anyone who bases their morality on divine law should have no problem staying consistent with their morality when it comes to killing someone because of what they said.

    Charlie Kirk was out there on the battlefield, and he was killed on it. He deserves a hero’s honors. He was killed because of words he said. Our enemies attempted to silence him and us. There are millions of young Americans that are extremely angry about his killing and are determined to face wokeism head on. This is a good thing. A sleeping giant has been awakened. You may think it is akin to the Jolly Green Giant, but I think it is a giant more along the lines of Alkyoneus.

    • Disagree: ServesyouallWhite
  224. @Trinity

    I’d give that honor to Tom Metzger, and defer to his opinion on Duke.

  225. @ServesyouallWhite

    Whites have this tired old impotent formula of rallying behind some charlatan organization or individual only to slink away and disavow the bullshittery by pretending to never have aligned with whichever crockery in the first place

    That would be my neighbors.

    I live in Trump country and have seen exactly 2 MAGA hats in the last few months.

  226. @Luus Kanin

    Okay, you don’t own a Barcalounger, but I am willing to bet dollars to doughnuts that you watch re-runs of The Golden Girls in your decades old La-Z-Boy.

    Well you would lose that bet.

    I’m actually not a boomer and I don’t watch reruns of any show. I was going to watch a football game yesterday but forgot about it. I was working outside. If I wasn’t married I would rarely watch television.

    I agree with you on basic moral standards, and Israel being completely in the wrong on the Palestinian genocide. I agree Charlie Kirk was a shill for the state of Israel. I also understand that his organization was funded by Jewish money, and there was his great dilemma.

    That is a fair take but why can’t these Con Inc influencers be neutral on Israel? I don’t buy the excuse of Jewish control when there are left-wing youtube bloggers that criticize Israel.

    I’m not even asking that the establishment right be critical of Israel. Why can’t they just avoid the subject? Why should I have to lower my standards past neutrality?

    To me this is a core problem with Con Inc. They pretend to be different from the left when they have the same MO which is to control the narrative while pretending to be open minded. Someone like Charlie is not going to post a video of a student asking him if Christian charity organizations are lying about Gaza children starving. He is going to post the video of the blue haired 18 year old dyke getting angry over a trans or abortion question. Well it is easy to make that video just as it is easy for the Daily Show to mock MAGA voters in Gonzo interviews. It isn’t hard to show that the average person is confused and their confidence is easy to dislodge. This is especially true if you can toss the videos that don’t support the narrative. It’s entertainment just like the Daily Show.

    Charlie Kirk was out there on the battlefield, and he was killed on it. He deserves a hero’s honors. He was killed because of words he said.

    I fully recognize that the guy had guts and he deserved the right of free speech like everyone else. I didn’t like the guy but I also acknowledge that people like him can see the poison that is liberalism and see no other path to take. They view some bizarro pro-Israel/Rand/Trump/Christian outlook as the best hope even if it requires a lot of half truths and leads to defending very unChristian acts and people. I think he was on the whole a moral person and was on some level trapped by this sludge monster that has been created to fight liberalism. But I just don’t think it works and the sludge leaves White people in a lie competition with liberals.

    I see modern conservatism as a 10 year lag on liberalism with incremental but ultimately meaningless wins. I really do view Con Inc/Fox/Newsmax/Kirk as conservatives entertaining the crowds on the top deck of a ship while liberals bash a hole in the bottom. I really don’t view what he does as a battlefield. The students on those videos go right back to lectures on how White people ruined everything and caused racial inequality in America. The Con Inc leaders aren’t allowed to touch that. Those lectures continue unchallenged. Con Inc does not cross establishment taboos which includes claiming race doesn’t exist while blaming White people.

    • Replies: @Luus Kanin
  227. Alanchik says:
    @Snow Leopard

    I don’t see Yahweh as God, but rather as the mask of the Demiurge — a control system more than a deity. The covenant is the mechanism: it ties story, law, and ritual together in a way that binds people’s identity and loyalty. From childhood on, that conditioning becomes hard to break.

    The draw comes from how it works on several levels at once. The stories give a sense of destiny, the laws demand obedience, and the rituals train emotion through fear, guilt, and hope. Add the idea of “chosenness,” and you get a very powerful psychic leash. It feels divine to those inside it, but it’s actually programming that keeps people aligned to the system.

    What’s real here isn’t Yahweh’s divinity — it’s the architecture of control that was built around his image. That’s why the Yahweh factor is pivotal: it’s not just a religion, it’s the root operating system for a whole structure of power that still shapes our world.

    • Replies: @Snow Leopard
  228. @Luus Kanin

    ‘The cheaper the hood, the gaudier the patter’.

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  229. @Half Norwegian

    ‘Faggot’? Bunch of sticks, Welsh skinless sausage or German bassoon?

  230. @Sew Crates Hymerschniffen

    Did your jewess mommy teach you to respond that way?

    No, ‘Oh One who’s nutsack has not dropped even in adulthood’

    She used her high IQ to teach me how to build a foolproof ‘GAYDAR’ system which you have set off so much that the fucking circuitry is worn out.

  231. @John Johnson

    (ran out of reaction allotments, I feel like Oliver Twist holding a fucking gruel bowl)

    That would be my neighbors.

    I live in Trump country and have seen exactly 2 MAGA hats in the last few months.

    LOL!

  232. Eric135 says:
    @John Johnson

    “Well, of course it wasn’t limited to freshmen.”

    You said it was: “[Kirk’s] dog and pony show was to try and browbeat confused freshmen.” Are you going to admit you were wrong?

    “The point was that he was trying to browbeat the naive.”

    Anyone from a freshman to a professor to a world-renowned expert could have challenged him.

    “An expert in a subject would not travel to a college just to stand in line and have the chance at asking Kirk a single question which he could avoid and move on to the next one.”

    Experts visit colleges and universities all the time. If experts chose not to challenge Charlie and, instead, allow masses of young students to be told things they considered to be untrue without making any effort to challenge those “falsehoods,” that’s not Charlie’s fault. The opportunity to challenge him was there. He couldn’t force people to take advantage of it. Do you think it’s right for experts to think they are “too good” to “lower themselves” to talking to kids in a debate/dialog format? That seems irresponsible to me. “Because I say so, now shut up” is not a valid argument or anything that should ever be said in an academic setting. And you have offered no evidence that Charlie tried to avoid questions by cutting people off and moving on to the next person.

    “A real debate requires a moderator.”

    I’m debating you now. If you think we’re not having a real debate, why are you arguing with me?

    “[Conservatism] and liberalism [have nothing to say that even matters]. They are predicated on irrational beliefs.”

    Oh, and you’re the rational one – mkay.

    “That doesn’t at all negate what I said.”

    Yes, it does. You claim that the idea that a man can be turned into a woman is new. But that idea was accepted as true in 1951 in the case of Christine Jorgensen. It wasn’t an issue when Rush Limbaugh had his show, so your claim that he “failed” to stop the idea from being accepted is ludicrous. The challenge to that idea is only recent and is based on something new: the effort by the Left to get children to change their sex.

    “Yes, it has been successful … the medical community has been forced to accept the idea.”

    When the voters elected Trump, they rejected trans ideology: sex changes for children, trans “women” sharing bathrooms and locker rooms with real women, trans “women” competing in sports with real women, etc. 25 states have banned trans hormones and surgery (“gender affirming care”) for minors. The Supreme Court upheld those bans in United States v. Skrmetti. As of this month (Sept. 2025), transgenders are banned in the military. The recent spate of murders committed by trannies, and endless videos of “transwomen” having violent temper tantrums because they were “misgendered,” is waking people up to the dangers that are disproportionately posed by young trans people. It seems that sex change hormones, given to minors in particular, make them violent and even homicidal. Doctors: “Let’s give estrogen to boys and testosterone to girls and see what happens!” Bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam! That’s what happens. But I guess in your mind, conservatives objecting to this “gender affirming care” for minors is completely irrelevant because everything they have to say is based on “irrationality.”

    I don’t think you understand what a conservative is. It’s not a mainstream Republican. It’s not a “neo-con” working for Israel and the Jews. A conservative is someone like Pat Buchanan, who cannot be fairly accused of the things you condemn “conservatives” for: not being sincere when they criticize big government, shilling for Jews and Israel, not caring about economic inequality, lying about race, thinking Christianity is all that is needed to solve social problems, etc.

    Charlie Kirk was not a Pat Buchanan conservative, but he was moving in that direction. More importantly, though, he was debunking liberal claims that are pure poison. But you, O Wise One, will not tolerate the slightest imperfection. Like all the black pill dispensers here, you make the perfect the enemy of the good. And that’s what makes you and your ilk politically irrelevant.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  233. Eric135 says:
    @John Johnson

    “I live in Trump country and have seen exactly 2 MAGA hats in the last few months.”

    Maybe you should disguise yourself. That way they won’t flee when they see you coming.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  234. Cap says:

    How can you compare him MLK when He disliked him. He said; “MLK was awful. He’s not a good person. He said one good thing he actually didn’t believe.”

  235. @Eric135

    You said it was: “[Kirk’s] dog and pony show was to try and browbeat confused freshmen.” Are you going to admit you were wrong?

    It’s called being facetious.

    I didn’t actually mean that Kirk was bringing an actual dog and actual pony to show only freshmen.

    You were not actually supposed to take each word literally.

    It was a description in half jest. You were clearly offended by it and seem to be upset by the characterization. I don’t care. Charlie Kirk laughed at his South Park parody which was about what I described. He said that conservatives can laugh it off. In fact he changed his online avatar to the South Park version which I honestly admired. I didn’t agree with his act but the guy had guts and knew how to take a joke.

    Do you think it’s right for experts to think they are “too good” to “lower themselves” to talking to kids in a debate/dialog format?

    I fully support real debates and not a controlled format that exists to sell advertising dollars.

    That would exclude both MSM debates and also youtube Gonzo journalism posing as debate.

    Oh, and you’re the rational one – mkay.

    Yes I am more rational than mainstream conservatives as I am not tied to their ideology for career reasons. Meaning I don’t wear a conservative badge and can say what I feel like. That really isn’t allowed in US politics.

    Mainstream conservatism requires irrationalism for certain issues.

    This is the result of creating an ideology that yields to the establishment on race and also embraces a pseudo-religious belief in minimal government. Both mainstream conservatives and liberals believe in lying to the masses about reality. This leads to irrational statements and arguments. I fully recognize their shared belief that deceit is needed for the good of society but I don’t believe that either side has the country in their best interest. I view liberalism as destructive and mainstream conservatism as a pony f-cking show waste of time that ultimately submits on social issues. Feel free to disagree and the last statement was not meant to be taking literally. As a reminder Republicans now support gay marriage and Hannity interviewed a confused tranny as a “good fiscal conservative”. Just a reminder in case you accuse me of imagining conservatism to be a 10 year lag on liberalism.

    You claim that the idea that a man can be turned into a woman is new. But that idea was accepted as true in 1951 in the case of Christine Jorgensen

    I was talking about the culture. It wasn’t culturally accepted in the 1950s that men can turn into women. Democrats during the 1950s would be viewed as far-right traditionalists in today’s culture. This shows how post-WW2 conservatism ultimately loses on culture.

    When the voters elected Trump, they rejected trans ideology: sex changes for children, trans “women” sharing bathrooms and locker rooms with real women, trans “women” competing in sports with real women

    Voters cited the economy as the main reason for electing Trump. I don’t believe he would have won if Harris was on a strong economy. Thus I don’t buy what you are stating. I think most people will vote with their wallets in presidential elections. I would fully support a ban on any gender transitions in minors and I would also support the European standard of requiring 3 doctor signatures for adults. I would honestly ban all of it but that isn’t viable. But I don’t see anything like that coming from Trump.

    I don’t think you understand what a conservative is. It’s not a mainstream Republican. It’s not a “neo-con” working for Israel and the Jews.

    Conservatives and Republicans poll as more pro-Israel than actual Jews. I can cite that data if you would like. Evangelicals poll as the most pro-Israel group in America. I’m not imagining anything on a data or anecdotal level. I am related to conservatives and I know them quite well. In fact I used to be friends with a Republican activist who got pretty high in the ranks before changing careers.

    Charlie Kirk was not a Pat Buchanan conservative, but he was moving in that direction.

    Charlie Kirk could never be a Pat Buchanan. Never.

    There was only one Pat Buchanan.

    • Replies: @Eric135
  236. @Eric135

    “I live in Trump country and have seen exactly 2 MAGA hats in the last few months.”

    Maybe you should disguise yourself. That way they won’t flee when they see you coming.

    Why would I do that? Some of them are my friends.

    I live in Trump country and do not support Trump.

    Doesn’t mean I hate my neighbors. I just make fun of them for building an identity around a spoiled New Yorker who doesn’t give a shit about them. They are doing exactly what @servesyouwhite described. Everyone is pretending to not have been part of the bandwagon. I guess the felonies were acceptable but not the Epstein files. Well I guess everyone has their limit.

  237. @Sakkie Visasem

    Ah yes… “we”. What Charlie Kike and MLK had in common, was that they both had Jews writing their speeches.

    Rag head Muslim or trans LBGTQ fag? Maybe you’re both.

  238. Eric135 says:
    @John Johnson

    “It’s called being facetious.”

    No, it’s called being wrong.

    “It wasn’t culturally accepted in the 1950’s that men can turn into women.”

    Yes, it was, as long as it stayed rare and was confined to adults.”

    “Blah blah blah blah blah.”

    You still don’t understand the difference between conservatives, Evangelicals (neo-conservatives), and run-of-the-mill country-club Republicans (a dying breed, if not already extinct).

    I’m not going to explain it twice, dunderhead.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  239. aspnaz says:

    This is also why I am devastated at his passing.

    How can you be devastated at the death of someone you don’t even know? The hyperbole is ridiculous; he was a right wing shill, working for the Zionists, he was effective, it is a loss if you are in the zionist camp (which many say he was trying to escape), but that was it. You must be incredibly fragile if you are susceptible to being devasted by the death of politicians and their activists.

    Didn’t bother reading any further; the world is full of bullshit, I don’t need any more.

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
  240. “In death, Martin Luther King, Jr. has become larger than life. I don’t need to expound on how often his name is still invoked when promoting leftist causes”

    The mainstream right seems to invoke King much more often than the left does these days. I don’t remember any BLMers lauding King. Whenever I hear right-wingers chanting “content of character, not color of skin,” I go ‘WTF?’ It just goes right over the heads of 21st century angry American blacks, with their near-infinite racial self-esteem. Blacks certainly don’t want a color-blind society. They prefer the status-quo, in which both right and left excuse every black debauchery, because ‘reasons.’ Nobody on the mainstream right dares to say “That’s just who they are. It has nothing to do with fatherlessness, or LBJ’s Great Society welfare, or poverty, or the legacy of evil slavery. Blacks alone are responsible for their own awful behavior.” The mainstream right takes just as much glee as the left does in sniffing out and calling out ‘racism.’ “The Democrats are the REAL racists!” they bellow.

  241. @John Johnson

    You make some valid points; the only thing I would quibble with is your view that the college campus is not a battlefield. You are correct, the students do go right back to their indoctrination, but a number of them go back knowing that they are not alone in their educational gulag that imprisons their thoughts. This to me is important.

    I agree on the entertainment aspect of certain conservatives being on the top deck of a ship while the damage is being done below. I also believe that the killing of Charlie Kirk has energized a large number of high school and college age conservatives into meeting these lunatics where they congregate, force them to the poop deck where they belong, and then shove them over the side and into the depths, where their ideas can drown in a watery grave. I would hope this occurs somewhere over the Mariana Trench.

  242. @Jim H

    Talk about self-parody: why use four syllables — ‘enslaved people’ — instead of just one — ‘slaves’? Pencil-necked, pointy-headed academics just can’t help theyselves [sic].

    But this crackpot plan is merely the camel’s nose under the tent. If alleged past trauma is a criterion for special treatment, one group stands head and shoulders above all others in deserving redress: 15.8 million Jewish Holocaust survivors — i.e., every Jew on the planet.

    Each day that I stop by this site something makes me humbly grateful that Unz Review exists. Here’s today’s fresh catch. Thank you, Jim H.

  243. @Eric135

    You still don’t understand the difference between conservatives, Evangelicals (neo-conservatives), and run-of-the-mill country-club Republicans (a dying breed, if not already extinct).

    Evangelicals are not neo-conservatives. They are Christian fundamentalists that believe the Bible is inerrant. Meaning everything can be taken as 100% true which includes the Old Testament. They are defined as a religious group.

    The Difference Between Evangelical and Christian: Explained
    https://christianeducatorsacademy.com/the-difference-between-evangelical-and-christian-explained/

    Everything I have said about conservatives and Evangelicals in relation to Israel is backed with data.

    You just don’t want to believe it.

    Well this person made a nice video that covers the data I have cited dozens of times.

    Republicans and self-identified conservatives are more sympathetic to Israel than actual US Jews. Evangelicals are a major reason as they overlap with both groups and are the most pro-Israel group in America.

    I’m sorry if you others here can’t handle that reality. It’s backed by data even if your really, really want to believe it ain’t so.

  244. @bike-anarkist

    “Je n’est pas “Charlie”.

    I think you mean, “Je ne suis pas ‘Charlie.’”

  245. @mulga mumblebrain

    Well, some things never change. It is good to see you out here in your underwear doing the same old rain dance, though it seems by now you might have learned a few new steps. Quoting Dashiell Hammett might be a step in the right direction though. And you mentioning the hood brought back fond memories of my old stomping grounds. That’s mighty white of you!

  246. @John Johnson

    (Ran out of reactions yet again)

    Agreed

    Don’t worry John, I am going to use my paranormal abilities to make it so that at Thanksgiving family dinner, Eric gets a tainted serving of Stove Top and has a case of the projectile shits during the entire 10 hr drive home……………………….

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    , @Eric135
  247. Mark Dankof says: • Website

    [It’s very bad behavior to spam this website with endless copies of the same link, especially if it’s your own article. Your comments will be trashed and if you continue that bad behavior, your commenting will be severely restricted.]

  248. @PvtCharlieSlate

    His comments about Epstein being a Mossad asset were likely just part of his exodus. So, for the Zionists he was transforming from an asset into to a liability.

    It was mostly Megyn Kelly that made the statement
    https://www.rawstory.com/mobile-push-notification/maga-epstein/#:~:text=Charlie%20Kirk%20and-,Megyn%20Kelly,-floated%20the%20baseless

    That was July 16 and a few weeks later Kirk was claiming that starving children are just a UN conspiracy.
    https://www.jfeed.com/news-israel/charlie-kirk-gaza-food-claims

  249. @ServesyouallWhite

    I wouldn’t wish even Eric getting sick from stove top.

    It’s too delicious and should be enjoyed by everyone.

    I wish people would stop cooking it inside the turkey though.

  250. @Alanchik

    Yes thank you regarding Yahweh as the mask of the Demiurge. I note that in the Gnostic traditions there are various conflicting definitions of that “Demiurge”. The Sethian version speaks of the demiurge as a malignant negative anti God. Whereas the Valentinian school of Gnostics see the demiurge as more of a neutral benign worker that is necessary. The demiurge I am told literally means a public worker. The receptive, reactive soul of creation. Subordinate to higher more causal cosmic forces. I am still learning what all this means, and don’t realistically expect to really grasp it merely through intellectual learning.

    My underlying motive for the question of the Demiurge however comes from my shamanic sense that organized Talmudism has within it sufficient power of imagination and emotionally focused mind to be able to connect mind energy to cosmic forces and draw those forces in to give cosmic shape and force to the intention of those Talmudic minds. In old language, they pull in the power of the Gods to add cosmic force to their mental intentions. Somehow this becomes a collective exercise giving it a mass effect. Iranian scholars have noted that Zionists use “sorcery” to aid their power driven purposes. This gives the Zionist mind the sense of its ability to play at being God. Just like the sorcerers of old would command the gods to hold sway over the “gentile” minds.

    A striking image of this self confessed ability to connect to and draw in cosmic forces to aid their mental intention comes from the image of “the fiddler on the roof.” Why was the fiddler on the roof at all? He was playing a musical instrument noted for its effect upon the mind, the violin, to impact his audience on the ground. His playing that violin whilst standing on the roof top with the moon behind his back is a clear and striking image of the fiddler’s consciousness of his ability to call in celestial forces from above and channel it through his music. This is an image, for those who can see it, of a man demonstrating his power to influence the minds of the masses by calling cosmic energy to effect his his purpose through the creative application of his art. Musical sorcery is implied. “I wish I was a Rothschild” he sings. And there you have his programming intent.

    So clearly the ability to use a form of sorcery to draw in cosmic forces (unrecognizable to the rational mind of the common masses) is part of the Judiac arsenal. Hence their confidence and power of determination that they can actually work over time to control and dominate the world, on behalf of their own God image. They can draw cosmic juice and play at being Gods somehow.

    Given this the issue of Yahweh comes into critical focus here. It seems that for the Talmudic cult Yahweh is a God image which they cultivate as somehow a means of channelling their applied sorcery. An integrated human – cosmic loop is created. And sustained over time through ritual and belief.

    And from there their influence within “Judeo-Christianity” and its power to control the world mind flows as a river abundant with the “covenant” at its heart. How is this not high sorcery?

    So can we see the Yahweh God image as a cosmic loop into what Shamans would call the transpersonal aspect of the psyche that holds their world view in a solid cosmic lock? I think I am actually spelling out the methodology of the Demiurge as an innocent worker on behalf of human intention.

    So the demiurge in this aspect is like a stuck place in the soul of creation. A self reflection in the mass psyche, in the form of the “covenant.” However this demiurge is now in the process of being cleansed by the real Creator. Washing clean the inner psyche of humanity and its relation with the cosmic universe. Breaking the covenant and reconnecting humanity with Source.

    This is how I see the substance of your metaphysics and I agree that the prognosis is very good as the entire cosmic – human loop that binds us in the covenant of the demiurge is now in the process of being broken and superseded. But for that to complete itself we have to experience the raw force of the underlying architecture of the covenant to be pushed to the surface, consciously experienced, faced, vomited out of our collective psychic body, and transmuted via a reintegration into a higher relation with Source.

    But the trap to be avoided here is in seeing this Yahweh Demiurge as being in any way an autonomous cosmic entity that is expressive of “first cause.” It is in no way God. It is but a “reflection”. Is this how you read it?

    That being where we are now. Are we in accord here? Thank you for your focus.

    Snow Leopard

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  251. Alanchik says:
    @Snow Leopard

    Thank you for this thoughtful and shamanic insight. I agree with you that the Gnostic schools give us helpful language, even if they differ in tone — some casting the Demiurge as malign, others as a lower worker. But what matters most is not whether the Demiurge is “evil” or “neutral” in theory, but how it actually functions. In practice it is best understood not as a true cosmic being but as a memetic-ritual engine — a system that channels collective imagination, belief, and ritual into durable worldly power. This is why Yahweh as a mask of the Demiurge is so pivotal: not as First Cause, but as a reflection sustained by human participation.

    Your point about ritual, music, and symbolism acting as a form of “sorcery” is exactly right. The covenant works like a loop — shaping attention, locking imagination, and drawing in force to sustain control across generations. The key, I think, is to critique the method rather than demonize people. Humans get recruited into running the machinery, but the machinery itself is what needs to be exposed and dismantled. What breaks the loop is reconnecting directly with Source, which renders the covenant powerless. In that sense, yes, I do believe we are in accord: the Yahweh-Demiurge is not God, not First Cause — it is a reflection, and its time is running out.

  252. @JM

    Turning Point USA would be nothing without the 10’s of millions of dollars jews funded it with. In the beginning TPUSA purged all the real conservatives.

    Jews are the NWO people.

  253. And here is another convenient parallel: Martin Luther King, Jr. was considered a moderate—just like Charlie Kirk. This can be put to use as well. As I wrote after Trump released the MLK files back in 2017:

    He did not release all the files.

    That was a trick play.

    He released some of them but not all of them.

    MLK is most likely on tape taking part in an orgy paid for with church funds.

    Liberals and even conservatives would like to believe that is just a racist rumor but his own friend wrote about it in a memoir.

    MLK enjoyed sex with many women when on the road and the FBI was constantly monitoring him. It is simply not possible for the files no have zero reference to his infidelities. The sex orgy with church funds is not even the worst accusation.

    Trump did not release all the files. He is not going to cross that line.

    In being assassinated, Charlie Kirk has now proven the moral superiority of the Right. He was a moderate, he was conciliatory, he eschewed race realism and white identity, and he was philo-Semitic.

    Kirk last month described starving Gaza children as a UN conspiracy. As in they are making it all up. Is that a morally superior position of the right? Or a moderate position? Polls show that Americans are far more supportive of Gaza than the Fox/Con Inc right.

    Maybe we could have a statue of Kirk built and have the quote “There are no starving children in Gaza” placed at his feet.

    But the author and others here seem to want for a new Kirk to exist. They want to make him a deity and forget those unwanted comments just like how the US government does not want you to know about those unwanted sex parties.

  254. TrumpWon says:

    Bruh….your article is dangerous bunk. Did you learn nothing from Breaking Bad?

    No half-measures.

  255. @Anymike

    Good to bring this up. They don’t tell us about the failures. Only when they have to.

  256. @Anymike

    I’ve entertained an interesting thought. We know of only of a few cases in America of attempted or successful megacide (the murder of a prominent person) in which the weapon was a rifle. To wit, the failed attempt on Gen. Edwin Walker in 1963, the murder of civil rights activist Medgar Evers in 1963, the assassination the President John F, Kennedy in 1963, the murder of Martin Luther King in 1968, the failed attempt on Donald Trump in 2024 and the murder of activist Charlie Kirk in 2025. If I have missed someone, point it out.

    I would add Steve Scalise.

    It’s an interesting point and I think it has more to do with a handgun being viewed as requiring less skill. Get in close and shoot.

    A handgun is also concealable. A would-be assassin can wait for the right opportunity while there really isn’t a good excuse to have a deer rifle at a political engagement. Thus it is much easier for someone with a handgun to abort the plan if needed.

    I’m on the side of the idea that the shots were not extremely difficult except for those attributed to Oswald.

    I have rifles of various calibers and I am going to agree. I seem to recall that they simulated the Oswald shot with expert shooters and the results were mixed. Sounds like both luck and skill. I do think there was a conspiracy but I think it was a lone shooter. The Jack Ruby part is much stranger than the shot.

    I am surprised that we haven’t seen a drone assassination. The new videos from Ukraine using these projectile FPV drones are unreal. They’re killing Russians from 10 ft in the air. At the start of the war they were mostly wounding them which shows how much the technology has advanced. I would never have let Charlie speak outside for that reason. How many controversial speakers are there? A dozen? Make them speak indoors and keep the crowd back. Even if someone sneaks in a handgun the odds of surviving are good if the shooter isn’t close. I really can’t believe this happened after Trump was almost killed. I’ll bet another mall cop security company screwed up.

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  257. anarchore says:

    Charlie Kirk was a lying piece of shit, loyal Zionist turd to the very end. The day before he died he interviewed Shapiro with no push back, and brainstormed with his Rabbi advisor.

    Fuck all you partisan dolts. A piece of shit is a piece of shit, you claim him and you stink too!

    • Troll: Jameson
  258. Eric135 says:
    @ServesyouallWhite

    Mmm.

    I see you’re still upset about that slut who promised to teach you about sex if you married her but instead fucked all your friends and took you for all your money, reducing you to living in a crack hotel.

    I get it: life is tough. But you should try to look on the bright side. You know – clouds, silver linings, all of that. 🙂

    • Replies: @ServesyouallWhite
  259. Eric135 says:
    @John Johnson

    “Evangelicals are not neo-conservatives.”

    Yes, they are. They worship Jews and Israel just like neo-conservatives do. They are not Christian, nor are they conservative.

    “Everything I have said about conservatives … in relation to Israel is backed with data.”

    Pat Buchanan is a conservative. So, you’re wrong.

    “Republicans and self-identified conservatives …”

    Now you’re backtracking. Now they’re only “self-identified” conservatives.

    “Republicans … are more sympathetic to Israel than actual US Jews.”

    They have to be in order to get elected and stay in office.

    Of course, you can elect Democrats like Biden – and still the US would be doing what the Jews and Israel want.

    Regardless of one’s political party, going against the Money Power is a high-risk proposition. Kennedy tried, and we know what happened to him. Pat Buchanan tried, and we know what happened to him.

  260. Anymike says:
    @John Johnson

    What I was thinking is that it might be possible to not make known an actual attempt with a rifle. In the case of a pistol, the assailant has to be close to the victim, which means that there will be witnesses.

    Radio host Glenn Beck claimed to have gone to a shooting and duplicated the shots attributed to Lee “I already know his middle name was Harvey” Oswald. Every source I have seen has said that trained snipers and sharpshooters could not consistently duplicate the feat. Reportedly, the Soviets had their sharpshooters try it immediately after event and they were not able to do it.

    One the curiosities of the Kennedy assassination is that, if Oswald did it, he did not have a clear political motive. He was more motivated by a desire for personal aggrandizement, a desire to be involved in intrigue and great events and a sense of being deprived of position and recognition. This was true of him whether he was a shooter or whether he was, as he claimed, a patsy or a dupe of some kind.

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  261. @Eric135

    I see you’re still upset about that slut who promised to teach you about sex if you married her but instead fucked all your friends and took you for all your money, reducing you to living in a crack hotel

    I get it: life is tough. But you should try to look on the bright side. You know – clouds, silver linings, all of that.

    That was a most lame effort Eric. Since John has saved you from a paranormal-induced fetid helping of Stove Top, try again with making funny after you’ve recuperated from the Thanksgiving yams that were shitted on by some H-2 visa wetback right before harvest time.

    • Replies: @Eric135
  262. @Anymike

    Radio host Glenn Beck claimed to have gone to a shooting and duplicated the shots attributed to Lee “I already know his middle name was Harvey” Oswald.

    I watched the video and it was a pretty good simulation but he is using a modern rifle. That would be a lot more accurate than the cheap Carcano that Oswald used.

    It also seemed a bit staged. Would have been more interesting if he let a few random people try it.

    It was already known that the shot was possible. I think the movies have made Oswald look farther away than he actually was.

  263. @Poupon Marx

    Very good comment, PM. Most guys of my demographic grew up baptized (to use a loaded term) with assumptive adoration of “Biblical” Israel, which we then seamlessly conflated with the modern state of Israel. I surely did.

    Then in 2005 I began reading PCR’s commentary on the absurd 9-11 fairytale. This amounted to a test of my self-regard as a reasonable person, open to changing my beliefs according to new or revised information. I seem to have passed the test; I now distrust, then verify.

    I started reviewing everything I thought I knew, but it took another five years before I got around to the truth about Israel, beginning with the truth about Jews. In my case, it took an awakening about a different event to get me on the proper approach to understanding reality in general (ironically, not so unrelated as it turned out, 9-11 and Israel).

    My point in all this is that I believe whatever stage of awakening Charlie Kirk had gotten to is less important to his Jewish sponsors than the trend he had established in the part of his thinking that would seriously affect them. I say “would”, not “could”, because Jewish luciferians have nearly perfected their ability to predict how people will behave in the long run. All the attributes Charlie Kirk demonstrated at an early stage were positive for attracting support from his sponsors. When he even began to modify his thinking, then confirming that with a measured rejection of bribes and threats, and even worse, began speaking about things, those who had him killed knew they had to act fast. One way or the other, Kirk had a long and influential career shaping up. Bad news if he were on track to becoming a Frankenstein monster to Jews/Zionist/Israelis.

    Because I didn’t pay a lot of attention to him, I can’t say whether Charlie Kirk was exceptionally virtuous, incorruptible, or committed to truth-telling. But I think he demonstrated to the Jews that he had sufficient integrity to convince important Jews he was irretrievably heading in that direction, once he turned down their money. That was the day he failed their test.

    • Agree: Eric135, Guest Perfect
    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
  264. I generally agree with the sentiment here.

    But lets be real. The aesthetics don’t work. His head was misshapen like Marc Andreessen’s and his voice was completely mundane.

    Its almost like Death of a Salesman. No busts can ever be made of this man, and his tone of voice is every bit as uninspiring.

  265. Well…

    On the one hand, Charlie Kirk wasn’t as contemptible as Martin Luther King.

    On the other hand, two wrongs don’t make a right.

  266. Eric135 says:
    @ServesyouallWhite

    “That was a most lame effort Eric …”

    You’re not supposed to review my comment; you’re supposed to make a snappy comeback. I’m not seeing it.

  267. @hardlooker

    Thank you an illuminating and profound insight, objectively and from your own experiences. I at one time was all in for Israel, due to the general opinion, but also culturally I saw their influence in a positive light, e.g., music, culture, prominent cultural figures, etc. My perception THEN was positive overall. But that was because I had never, like most, looked deeply at just who they were and what they intended, and how profoundly different their values were. Their victims’ stories had an effect.
    Arabs, in general, did not produce a feeling of positive attitude in me.

    But, then thanks to those who attempted to break through the projection and pull back the curtain, I began to perceive the truths, which became a self-actuated catalyst. That was where Charlie was, I believe. As far as motive goes, Israel, Inc. had by far the greatest impetus and imperative to silence him before he caused massive and likely irreparable damage to the whole of JIDSO.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  268. @Poupon Marx

    ‘…But, then thanks to those who attempted to break through the projection and pull back the curtain, I began to perceive the truths, which became a self-actuated catalyst…’

    Been there, man. Once upon a time, I thought Cast a Giant Shadow was a mighty fine film.

    As to Charlie Kirk, I still find it improbable that Israel whacked him. But hey: it’ll make my day if it turns out I was wrong. Hell, it would make my year.

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