Liberalism is, substantially, universalism. It’s about putting the interests of others – other individuals and other groups – above your own individual/group interests. This is in contrast to “conservatism” which is more concerned with one’s own particularistic survival.[1]

While it is liberal to give one’s own country away to foreigners (through, e.g., mass immigration) it is not liberal to give someone else’s country away – no more than it’s “liberal” to rob Peter to pay Paul. Jews are extremely “liberal” in the diaspora when it comes to handing out citizenship, welfare and goodies that their host has to offer onto various immigrants, foreigners and “minorities” but they’re extremely illiberal and miserly when it comes to their own country – Israel – and the dispensation of his own financial, military and citizenship. Indeed, when it comes to Israel suddenly they lose they become vengeful revanchists – big promoters of Israel’s wars for lebensraum and ruthless when the natives fight back against their own dispossession.

Properly understood, Jews are not actually liberals at all because Jews are not actually universalists.

The Jew appeals to universalism and the interests of minorities when he’s in the minority but when he’s in the majority, as in Israel, he dispenses with his multicultural and minoritarian agenda and becomes a staunch ethnonationalist who advocates the will and interests of the majority. In the diaspora the Jew talks of “minority rights” but in Israel he talks about the “democratic will of the [Jewish] majority.”

As a rule Jews never and nowhere true “liberals” – though they will, when it suits them, tactically identify as such. It is then that you will see them employ liberal talking points but only because is furthers their particularistic tribal ends. This makes them not universalists – but particularists – who cynically employ universalistic rhetoric when it benefits them. “Universalism” and “liberalism” to a Jew are just instrumental.

The only true “liberals” in majority white Christian nations (like the United States) are the white Christians who advocate for liberal causes and who stand nothing to gain by advocating the interests of others (of “minorities”) – and not Jews who advocate on behalf of the interests of non-white-Christians (i.e., Jews who advocate on behalf of themselves – the Jewish minority – and on behalf of their brown golem pets & janissaries).

Most people don’t realize this about Jews. They think that Jews are sincere liberals and are then horrified (as many have recently have experienced since Oct 7 and the bloodthirsty and vengeful show that so many “integrated, liberal” Jews have put on on social media in support of Israel’s barbarism) to see the “liberal” mask slip from the Jewish face when their tribal interests are at stake.

We need to stop calling Jews “liberal.” We need to call them what they really are: malignant tribal narcissists who in unscrupulous and cynical fashion push any talking point or ideology which they believe furthers their own group interests.

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Liberalism also has an element of concerning oneself principally with the greater good of the greater number – regardless of who that greater number might be.

Another phenomenon one sees is that wealthy people – esp. those born into wealth – often become quite liberal. This is unsurprising when you consider that they needn’t concern themselves with survival. Working class people, on the other hand, do have this concern, both figuratively and literally. This is especially true of those who are presented with the physical dangers of living around the dysfunctional minorities that the rich liberals import to compete against and undercut the wages of the native working class.

More on Jewish double standards with respect to Israel and their diaspora hosts:
https://www.unz.com/article/yes-the-grooming-gangs-were-pakistani/#comment-6930749
https://www.unz.com/isteve/coulters-law-vs-sailers-law/#comment-6427998

We need to correct Jews from now on when they call themselves “liberals.”

We should ask them: “Do you advocate the same ‘liberal’ and ethnicity/race/religion-blind immigration policies for Israel that you do for the United States (or your other diaspora host)? No? Then you’re not a liberal. You’re just an ethnonationalist and Jewish supremacist – a malignant particularistic Jewish narcissist – and a hypocrite to boot. A hypocrite who denies me and my nation what he demands for himself with zero self-awareness or thought or concern for fairness or reciprocity.”

On Jewish hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/in-this-house-we-believe-the-protestant-roots-of-wokeness/#comment-6588681

All ideological thinking has its merits until you realise most are only paid lip service to by those proclaiming to believe in the ideals.

What you have to understand is the “elite,” those who do whatever they can to live off others and never do a days work in the history of humanity, will throw all sorts of thoughts and ideas into the forum to confuse and sideline any ideas that may threaten their privilege.

The privatization push of the last forty plus years is another example where the lessons of the past were ignored and the same old outcomes achieved, societies near bankruptcy, deindustrialization and an “elite” who get richer and richer.

Its time to leave the ideas of the rich alone and forge a society that is owned by the people of a state for the benefit of a future for all not a system where the corrupt and the criminal owns the means, that is they control the money supply, that is something the private sector should never have.

“We need to stop calling Jews “liberal.” We need to call them what they really are: malignant tribal narcissists who in unscrupulous and cynical fashion push any talking point or ideology which they believe furthers their own group interests.”

Huh. I can think of a few other things we need to call them, too.

One thing you can say for them though: they play to actually win, not to simply appear fair, and they understand that the long game gives much better odds than the immediate game.

Imagine you’re playing a game of chess where the other side has all its pieces clearly and accurately labeled, but your pieces are not accurately labeled — you think you’ve got a pawn in the front rank but it’s really a rook, and you just wasted a valuable rook in what you thought was a minor pawn sacrifice. And oh, you spend all your strategic energy to protect your king, who turns out to really be just a knight.

That is what you’re doing, when playing politics with Jews. Why you allowed *them* to label all the pieces alone in the first place, when you weren’t looking, is anybody’s guess.

The Latin word “liber” also means “child,” so the proposition could be made that “liber-tas” might be literally the state of being a child, which certainly describes the naïve point of view of modern liberals. Liberalism didn’t start out this way, but as a powerful eighteenth century movement that smashed the power of autocracy. It became neutered in the nineteenth century into a reactionary movement primarily concerned with the property rights of the newly expanding middle class, surrendering the fight for human rights to radical socialists. The activist movements of the Sixties hoped to restore liberalism to its former basis, but in the era of total narrative control (and controlled opposition), the effort failed. I am not optimistic about our future. The loopholes that allowed the quixotic rebellions of my youth have long since been nailed shut. We seem to be drifting leaderless into a perfect storm of natural, political, social, and economic catastrophes, in a place ruled ever more absolutely by a new autocracy of great wealth that has gone quite mad.

The jews are not liberal in the classical sense expect for a few like Henry Hazlitt, Ludwig Von Mises, Murray Rothbard and some others. Same with the wasp. Most are hard-core Stalinists or Fabian socialists. The are self-internally believing proto-totalitarians who would like to murder in the billions right now people across the world or enslave them and throw them into gulags in Siberia. The jew especially at the toilet paper rag the jew york times (oh ya the jew isn’t originally from York in merry old England, which isn’t so merry anymore) keep advocating for and also the Fabian socialists vile wasps in England. These so-called elites are a really sordid class. Also with Stalin he would whack all these scumbags if they were living in the Soviet Union in the 1920’s and 1930’s if they wrote the crap in the newspapers today back then. He would ship their asses to Siberia and let them rot until dead, which would be a good thing regarding this vermin.

Fuck the jews talking points or the primitive leftist negroes, spics, who learned this leftist crap from the jews…To hell with them…

You don’t need any ideology to tell you what is right and what is wrong, there is a simple test that should direct your actions, you should always ask yourself when considering an action that effects others, would I like this done to me or my family or is this for the benefit of society or contributes to a degradation of society?

Bringing people from different parts of the world with different cultures and ideas on right and wrong will, on the whole, be detrimental because the patriarch will not want to change, bringing orphans in before a certain age is different, they can be made into a citizen.

Multiculturalism has brought the west to its knees, this was done under Liberalism, its time to filter out incompatible cultures, the Zionist have their country, let the Lindsay Grahams and others who declare their zionism leave for Israel.

Or indeed a piece from the opposing side all along.

This article is very well written in terms of how the author came to realise the real abusive nature of power, lying behind the moralistic facade of the spirit of liberalism with which the virtue-signalling (so-called) elites incessantly indoctrinate us.

When you get to a certain level in business or academia, you realise ethics is basically a fairy tale, akin to the story told children about Santa Claus. The rules are there to be bend over, that’s the main and easiest way to climb the social ladder for most, if coupled with a slithering obsequiousness to whoever has most influence in one’s own potential advancement. This is all that is about; therefore it follows that idealistic morality, truth and virtue must be for suckers, and for those with self-harming destructive tendencies. On the contrary, if you are keen to bend the rules, as a side effect you will be rewarded with a reputation of being shrewd and cunning, and the normies will admire the incessant smirking that will become a main feature of your physiognomy without you even realising it.

The author gives a very good account of this experience many go through. It’s also true that most cannot exactly pin down the real cause of all this. Thanks to the Unz Review, The Occidental Observer, American Renaissance, The Daily Stormer etc to plainly lay this all out to those who have enough common sense to notice.

https://twitter.com/dr_duchesne/status/1916188499214061888

This professor has researched “liberalism” in-depth and has recently published a new book offering insights.

“Of all the noteworthy advances and accomplishments in every area of human endeavor, the overwhelming majority have come from one part of the world: Europe and its New World offshoots, collectively referred to as the West. This troublesome fact may be downplayed or deconstructed by the politically correct establishment, but it cannot be credibly denied. The question, then, is why.”

Liberalism allowed for and enabled this greatness but has since mutated into the obsence within the environment of cultural terrorism known as political correctness.

When the tribe became too large to control, religion was created to do the job. Religion was not enough since it wasn’t compulsory. So religion morphed into government. Government has gained control over everything and everyone. How? Fiat money is the primary reason.
8 billion Sovereigns voluntarily cooperating is the answer. Shun violence, compulsory institutions & militarism. BDS all governments & corporations that go along with them.

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“You don’t need any ideology to tell you what is right and what is wrong, there is a simple test that should direct your actions, you should always ask yourself when considering an action that affects others, would I like this done to me or my family or is this for the benefit of society or contributes to a degradation of society?”

EXACTLY. Or, to rephrase your observation, a simple question would suffice regarding ALL matters: “What would my mother think of this?”

It is quite obvious that NO American politician cares one bit what his or her mother would think in regard to that politician’s dealings in government and the people that he or she is supposedly representing.

Thank you.

One must ask if Jews are 2% of the US population, why are they half of the US Supreme Court and most members of the Federal Reserve? Why are Jews 15% of the US Senate? California had two Jewish senators. When one recently died, she was replaced with another Jew. This can only be explained as remarkable coincidences, so this is just a remark.

“I came to see that religion—and specifically Christianity—was a malevolent force in society…”

Where is that addressed?

Are there any liberals with any integrity? They appear to only adhere to whatever way the wind is blowing at the moment.

The secret of the Jewish Mafia’s success in capturing the UK, the US, Europe, and Jerusalem, is subversive cohesion in lying, cheating, thieving, and murdering, with special attention to controlling the banking sector of countries across the planet. If there were a Nobel Prize in Evil it would be won by members of the Jewish Mafia.

Announcer: And this year’s Nobel Prize for Evil goes to – Benjamin Netanyahu!

[Applause]

Netanyahu: Thank you! Thank you very much! I have to especially thank my father. He was constantly instilling in me, from my earliest childhood, that we Jews were chosen by God to rule the world from Jerusalem. I must have heard that a hundred thousand times. I was immersed in it. My brain was soaked in it. It penetrated my very bones. It created in me an unshakeable belief in the glorious destiny of we Jews. And it formed my lifelong ambition to see Jerusalem as the Jewish capital of the world.

And now we are on the precipice of that great destiny, foretold in the Torah and the Talmud. When we finally rule Russia and China we will fulfill God’s magnificent plan! We estimate a million Ukrainian human sacrifices have been made in our conquest of Russia. And several million Arabs have been sacrificed in our conquest of the Middle East. Over a hundred thousand of these have been in Palestine alone. Our army, God’s army, is the most moral in the world. We shoot Palestinian children in the head to spare them from the extended suffering that would come from resisting God’s work.

I encourage the entire world, especially the people of Russia and China, to follow the example of America’s Christian Zionists. Learn to love Israel. Learn to love the Jews. We are fortunate to have working for us on that front such able people as Ben Shapiro, Bari Weiss, Jordan Peterson, and Douglas Murray. Ben is here tonight. Stand up Ben, take a bow. Thank you, Ben.

So I say to the world, be grateful for living in this momentous time, when God’s Jewish plan is being fulfilled on Earth.

And on behalf of Jews everywhere, a heartfelt “thank you” for this award.

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https://thegovernmentrag.com/articles/how-pedophiles-epstein-maxwell-israeli-blackmail-operation-killed-41-year-old-virginia-giuffre-part-1/

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Zionist Jews are the serpents in the US garden

http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/is-america-cursed/

where they are destroying Christian Western civilization

https://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/views-of-news/#destroying

http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2015/04/28/the-war-on-christianity/

and will unwittingly take the US empire down.

http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2014/08/05/israel-the-scourge-of-empires/

Nope. The accomplishments of the West are due to European DNA. The Queen of the Night was right all along.

There are MILLONS more jews than they admit to.

We need to correct Jews from now on when they call themselves “liberals.”

We should ask them: “Do you advocate the same ‘liberal’ and ethnicity/race/religion-blind immigration policies for Israel that you do for the United States (or your other diaspora host)? No? Then you’re not a liberal.

As if they will be impressed by this logic.

What does trouble them is more direct stuff. For example this bar owner.

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– to kill Latin civilization;

It is impossible to be civilized in two ways at once, meaning attempts to combine elements of different civilizations lead to moral chaos and political decline.

Only Latin civilization develops all spheres of life (law, religion, science, art, ethics) based on personalism and freedom.

Civilization

The truth of the matter is that left and right; liberal, conservative, and libertatian; are all nothing but Jewish shadow-puppets on the cave wall. If you are not taking stances that are deplorable to the vast majority of the population, the chances are that you’re internalizing Judaism to at least some degree.

The reason everyone seems spineless despite constant outrage is because every leadership position is compromised and any real objective is clouded behind wedge issues. Note that in America, both the “far left” and “far right” can agree almost entirely on what the problems are and who the creators of those problems are. It’s largely in branding and theoretical nuance that they come to hate each other.

With no effective leadership and no prospect for gaining it, controlling the rabble becomes easy. Most people are controlled with threats to their potential comfort alone. You wouldn’t want your attendance at an anti-semitic protest to come up when an employer is looking you up for a high paying job, would you? You wouldn’t want to be kicked out of your nice apartment or denied a loan to that new house because you were connected to a terrorist movement, would you? Think about your kids: they can be taken away from you because you’re a hateful person, and when your wife takes them, she’ll also take everything else.

For the small number that aren’t persuaded by threats to personal comfort, almost all are persuaded by example. Deportations, arrests for made up crimes, hounding in public, and all those other lovely Jewy tactics.

If you kept standing up against all that, then they’ll just put CP on your computer and make you an untouchable for life.

Welcome to the Judaocracy. You’re here until you die.

You can tell these liberals are simply dumb people or midwits.

See this rant on weaponization of dumb people.

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Arthur Moeller:
“These are the signs of a spiritual contagion whose carriers tend to protect themselves through a peculiar insensitivity, while it completely destroys the infected. It is the corrosive outlook of a liberalism that brings dissolution, that spreads a moral disease among political peoples and, to the extent that it takes hold of a nation, corrupts its character…
Liberalism is the freedom to have no convictions and yet to claim that these are convictions.”

Liberalism is Judaism. Jewish dictatorship replacing native statehood. Liberal dogma, Jew & hyena, Jew & sheeple, wears away existing bonds without replacing the destroyed and worn-out ones with genuine bonds for the others, at the end of each cycle devouring sheeple & hyena too. “Liberal Order” – Jewish NWO – can never exist for non-Jews in reality, since all orders always require an unquestionable and actually unasailable foundation, because a state that only sets a broad formal framework for the pluralistic groups in a non-nation (eliminating nativity) and withdraws from the objektive governance of the economy in particular (for its native subjects), as well as from the common good (such as exchangers, money, railroads, postal services, telecommunications, education, common energy, raw materials etc.) is a hijacked and/or mercenary for Judaism (i.e. evilness) beforehand.

The quest is for loyalty (to truth) instead of pseudo liberty (in lies); that is why true „libertarians“ often end up jailed or are on the run & ruined.

Resistance to the jewed world order „NWO“ consists of an attitude and measures that are consciously directed against the establishment and rule of the totalitarian – central – colluding regimes. One field in which resistance can be recognized is practical actions oriented towards the national – native, natural – state (within natural boundaries). Another is individuals/companies that develop and provide solutions that serve to protect and self-empower natural families and thus to sabotage the jewing NWO.
Loyalty-minded individuals exhibit behaviors that aim, among other things, to maintain, secure or regain self-determination in truth loyal – the true royal – against the deadly cheats of money monkeys.
Death to oligarchy & its (s)elected governments of hypocrites & thieves in the law!
Vegetarianism defeats Judaism; that is why the well poisoners are now poisoning our skies.
Recently at least one pilot (hyena) got beaten up for doing that.

… inflict a perverted brand of liberalism on competing tribes in order to destroy their traditions and especially their family structures.
…
…haven’t succeeded in destroying Muslim traditions and family structures, and generally enslaving Muslim minds,…

Koran is fully kiked – Islam is another Yidd sword…; pluralism + liberalism = Kike’s rule.

The Koran (the bible of the sheep fuckers*) is said to have been written by the Jewers themselves, (in Aramaic).
There are too many similarities between the Jewish Old Testament and the Koran.
The OT and the Talmud (tall mud) are brimming with contempt for non-Jewish life and so does the blood and semen dripping Koran.
Both so-called religions practise the infernal slaughter of animals, the cruelest killing that any human being can imagine, and it is likely that at the time the leading Jews wanted to create a supporting religion to help them achieve world domination, just as they manipulated the teachings of early Christianity, bought the Vatican and thus turned the Christian Church into a servant of the “synagogue of Satan”. But the atrocities they wrote into the Koran are now directed against themselves. Goethe summed this up so aptly in Faust: “It is the power that always wants evil, but always creates good.”

* Sodomy is an official part of the Yidd’s Islam (as is child fucking).

David Skrbina: “I came to see that religion—and specifically Christianity—was a malevolent force in society, one that again served to benefit a certain group of people at the expense of many others.”

Despite this author’s surface hostility to Christianity, the careful reader can, I think, detect certain elements of Christian thinking in his presuppositions.

Here we have, for example, in his identification of “a certain group of people” as the source of great evil — or maybe even ALL evil, at least in society — the typical Christian search for the Devil and the Devil’s handiwork. Lacking here is any notion of, or even the slightest curiosity about, why these Christians whom he depicts as dupes and victims of a hoax, refuse to change their behavior. It never occurs to him to ask what they are getting out of being duped, or as he might see it, allowing themselves to be duped. They actively cooperate in their own deception.

We also have his call at the end of the article for liberals to “wake up” and return to the old-time value of freedom, which would seem to imply a belief in human free will, a hallmark of most varieties of Christianity. But is it realistic to expect them to do so? Haven’t most or all of his arguments against the Christian religion been made before by others, and haven’t they fallen on deaf ears? Why expect liberals — or in other words, the people who have accepted Christian morality, but who may or may not accept the rest of its supernatural claims — to change now? I can’t see that he has an answer for this.

I’ve also recently finished reading his book The Jesus Hoax, and it’s also rife with these and similar errors. For example, in it he says:

Keep the social club, do charity work, help the poor—just dump the bogus metaphysics.

But why help the poor? Why do charity work? If Christianity is just a hoax, bogus metaphysics as he says here, there’s no obvious reason to do any of that stuff. In short, David Skrbina appears to be oblivious to the fact that his old-time version of liberalism owes just as much to Christian misconceptions about the world as the woke version he deplores. He’s a contradiction in terms, a cultural Christian who rails against the Christianity that shaped his worldview and gave him his philanthropic morality.

“Could all those buildings named after wealthy Jewish donors have something to do with it?”

Isn’t the key question: how did those Jewish donors become so wealthy? As I understand it, research has been done (by a few brave psychologists) to ascertain average IQ of various groups; and, perhaps surprisingly, Jewish people were found to be slightly, but not very much, above average. Perhaps on a par with Chinese people.

So how do you explain a supposedly free society like the USA, which is thoroughly dominated and controlled by a certain group of people? Perhaps significantly, Jewishness eludes definition. You can be Jewish without practising the Jewish religion; without having any particular genetic background; and without being a member of any Jewish organisations. Thus Jewish people can be self-proclaimed atheists, yet claim the land of Eretz Israel “because God gave it to Abraham”, and massacre non-Jews “because God commanded their ancestors to destroy Amalek”.

When someone publishes a clear and convincing explanation of why the USA and other countries are dominated and controlled by Jews – which may boil down to why the Jews are so wealthy – we’ll be getting somewhere.

I will be in Moscow in less than 7 hours to celebrate the victory over Nazi Germany. However, I am also longing to celebrate the victory over Jewish Nazism and the demise of Jewish evil.

Zionists touch almost every aspect of our lives through highly coordinated, effective racketeering and interlocking boards-of-directors on Wall Street.

The question for today is: How do we remove this parasitic contamination without killing the host? Is this even possible?

The author’s use of the “sandbox” metaphor is fine, but I will suggest another use: Jews have many lucrative, interesting, constructive, sandboxes available wherein they could be Jews – – without destroying the culture, the society, the country. CPA, doctor or dentist, bankruptcy lawyer, psychologist, and so on. I am old, and it used to be that a larger slice of Jews played in their sandboxes; only a small slice ventured forth, surrendering to a brain-wired obsession with dissension, contentiousness, and irresolvable conflict. I didn’t read all of Philip Roth, but I read probably half. He does a balanced job of observing and analyzing both aspects – – that is, Jews in their sandboxes, and Jewish traits operating outside their sandboxes. No one understood Jews better than Roth.

Christianity – especially the authentic variety, The Catholic Church – is not a malevolent force. More likely, the author is, if only for trying to conceal a lie among truths.

Congratulations on your wasting time reading Roth. The old movie The Graduate was enough to open my eyes, and it is the same mentality.

It isn’t as bad as Roth’s (Portnoy’s Complaint) and similar works, some by him, some by others. none of which I have read.

I did read Norman Mailer’s An American Dream, it is in the core disgusting. Still have the copy I bought, the centre-point is his protaganist anally raping the German maid.

Geezuz H. fucking Kristos.

One of the reasons I pray for The Collapse is that over-educated under-skilled twats like Skrbina will be the first to starve to death, because they have nothing to offer anyone. People like this are a plague on Western Civilization, on par with faggots. If Whites want to save their societies, all government subsidies to so-called institutes of higher learning that produce catamites like Skrbina need to be cut.

What the David Skrbinas and Kevin Barretts and other virtue-signaling scum on this forum fail to realize, is that Palestinians are the niggers of the Arab world. Jordanian Arabs hate them. Saudis hate them. Egyptians hate them. Yes, the kikes are committing atrocities by turning Palestinians into grease spots, but other Arabs are largely indifferent, because they see the Jews taking care of a problem that other Arabs don’t need to lift a finger to solve. And the Jews know this.

If Arabs don’t give a single fuck about the Palestinians, why the fuck should we??

How about we start caring about how Jewish behavior affects Whites?? Wouldn’t THAT be a novel approach??

TROLL!

The Koran … is said to have been written by the Jewers themselves, (in Aramaic).

‘Is said to have been’.

By know-nothing bumpkins who crawled out of the shallow end of the gene pool.

While the Jew wants liberalism for others, he is a realist in knowing the weaknesses of Christian whites especially. This realism allows for unemotional action suited for Jewish interested and detrimental to the interests of all others. It has allowed them to be the successful destructors that they are.

The leveling of Gaza and killing of Palestinians women and children is a necessary action in the Jewish mind. He will act, however, stunned if such suffering is inflicted by others. Jewish propaganda about the Holocaust will also justify what has been done to the Palestinians. This realism within the Jews realizes more the importance of propaganda more than others. Their success is in their realism.

DR, TL

It seems the Jews are stepping up their game. A false flag attack on themselves at a prominent social media figure’s bar, forcing Portnoy to defend them and ultimately become a free outspoken advocate for Jews: genius! They’ve got Portnoy for life now, he can never walk back his support for them or turn down their requests or he’ll be destroyed as being antisemitic. All this begs the question, I wonder what Dave did to draw their ire? Maybe a business decision that wasn’t going their way? Or just the typical shakedown for more money and influence?

-Rooster

Perhaps the Rothschild and other families at the very beginning were indeed Jewish.
Later, it was just that a group of upper-class elites found the Jewish shield useful.
If you want to explain the issue of intelligence quotient from the perspective of genetics, and if you think the Khazar Jewish conspiracy theory is true, then in fact, the Khazar Jews are descendants of us Chinese, and the Ashina family of the Khazar royal family is of mixed Chinese and Turkic descent.
Perhaps the lofty status of some Jewish families stems from the royal lineage of Khazar-Jews.

Exactly! He makes an accusatory statement about ‘malevolent’ Christianity and then……silence.
I’m only guessing, but it must be his limitation – confusing Christianity with churchianity is just about the most common misconception of even those practicing what they assume to be Christianity – it ain’t!
Deception is DaRule in this world – ruled over by dagod of this world!
Anyways – if the author or anyone else would like to educate themselves on the key differences – here’s a place to begin –
https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/search?q=Churchianity&max-results=20&by-date=false&m=1 – a list of headnotes to articles from DaLimbraw Library on that subject – lots to read.

Once you get red-pilled, you realize that everything you have been told is a lie.
You begin to notice who you are not allowed to criticize.
You begin to see those ‘patriotic’ warmonger politicians getting rich from kickbacks from the weapons industry and AIPAC.

De Oppresso Liber = Liberate the oppressed

I then discovered that my campus was something like 15% Jewish—in a state that was maybe 1% Jewish. Wait, how does that happen?

This right here gives it all away.

I wonder if the author realizes that Ivy-league admissions would be 90% Asian if based solely on merit, yet Asians account for 7% of the US population.

‘How does that happen’, he asks, cynically and disingenuously, knowing full well that different people have different aptitudes.

The reason Jews are disproportionately represented in academia is that they’re smart. Smarter that Whites, on average, by 15 IQ points or so.

It’s the same reason Blacks are disproportionately represented in the NFL and NBA. There’s no conspiracy to take over those sports leagues. Blacks are just better athletes.

The author seems troubled by his earlier belief in egalitarianism, and near despair now as he questions his earlier youthful beliefs; fear not for you were right after all. But you may not like the truth …

Because God is hard, you may not like him. But the more you hate him, the more you will serve. He is hard but fair. He does not indulge in racial bigotry on this Hell planet. He does not look down on niggers, kikes, wops or crackers. Here on Earth all filthy goyim are equally worthless. And God’s will is to weed out all non-hackers who do not pack the gear to serve his chosen jews. Do you maggots understand that?

It’s very simple; your best possible life is to serve Jewry and it’s inscrutable yet Holy goals; serve well, and be rewarded! Us Evangelicals have figured it out and look how happy and prosperous we are! Accept now and get on down to your local Evangelical church and make a hefty catch up donation, or fight and be eventually broken on the wheel of your reality.

It’s up to you but as a Boomer and Evangelical I feel I need to correct you, and save you. Only your submission and humility will permit your salvation. Period.

If Arabs don’t give a single fuck about the Palestinians, why the fuck should we??

The reality, if you actually pay attention, is that Whites actually don’t give a fuck about so-called ‘Palestinians’.

The only reasons Whites pretend to support the Palestinians is that they hate Jews.

And the idea that there’s some sort of ‘genocide’ going on is ludicrous.

If the American Indians, from whom the Whites basically stole an entire continent, had pulled anything like what Hamas pulled on Oct 7, they would have been dealt with the way the Israelis should have dealt with the Palestinians, which is an absolutely relentless slaughter.

If the Izzies wanted to ‘genocide’ the Palestinians, they only had to carpet bomb the entire Gaza strip.

But they didn’t.

One must ask if Jews are 2% of the US population, why are they half of the US Supreme Court and most members of the Federal Reserve? Why are Jews 15% of the US Senate?

One must ask those questions if one happens to be severely retarded.

Half the supreme court? Wrong. Try 1/9th.

Most members of the Fed? Wrong again. I think it’s 1/7, maybe 2/7.

15% of the Senate? Getting closer. Try 10%.

Again, instead of defaulting to preposterous conspiracy theories, look no further than the NBA and NFL. There’s no Black conspiracy to dominate professional sports. Blacks are simply better athletes on average.

Jews are just smart, but I wouldn’t expect a retarded cracker to figure that out.

“the Khazar Jews are descendants of us Chinese,”

Funny monkey. Note that I used the singular. Not as funny as a barrel of monkeys. Just one.
Claim them as your own, the rest of us don’t mind.

I will be in Moscow in less than 7 hours to celebrate the victory over Nazi Germany. However, I am also longing to celebrate the victory over Jewish Nazism and the demise of Jewish evil.

Well tell the dwarf dictator I said hello.

“The Jews promote high and patriotic values in the youth”

– quote from Vladmir Putin, the 5’1 angry dwarf dictator who rewarded his Jewish chef with a promotion after he was caught feeding rotten meat to schoolchildren.

We need to stop calling Jews “liberal.” We need to call them what they really are: malignant tribal narcissists who in unscrupulous and cynical fashion push any talking point or ideology which they believe furthers their own group interests.

In light of this understanding, was the racial ideology of the 3rd Reich justified? Was Hitler such an evil man simply for having called a spade a spade, and having acted in the interest of the people for whom his life’s work was dedicated? The Jew is really the lynchpin to any clear understanding of the moral directionality of the second World War. Anything less than the fawning, Jewish “kayfabe” apologetics of perfect Jewish victimhood in all things leads one to conclude that the story is one of tragedy rather than triumph of good over evil.

I dunno.

Whites seem to have a pathological problem of succoring other people’s children, especially if they’re two-legged turds, rather than their own. Especially White women who have aborted any or all of their own offspring. White Christians, also, love to do this sort of thing. I am convinced it gives them a high like a drug, and they are convinced it will get them into Heaven. And it’s not just them personally; they believe everyone should do it through taxation. White Jew haters foaming at the mouth about slaughtered Arabs is absolutely bonkers, especially when the policies pushed by Jews here at home are so harmful to their own children. So-called “conservative” White Supreme Court Justices and Congresscritters adopting niglets is absurd on its face, and everyone would recognize that if our civilization was not so insane. George Bush II funding AIDS charities for the inhabitants of Africa was just loony, or he was trolling his constituents — I haven’t decided which. At least Trump, with his vast imperfections, is attempting to end that particular bit of insanity.

Personally, I think the root problem of this White self-hatred is Jews. It is part of their survival strategy in a nation nominally run by Goyim.

As for the Palestinians, I, certainly, don’t give a fuck. The same for any Jews kidnapped, raped, and murdered by Palestinians. Not our fucking problem. We in the West should withdraw support from both sides, and expel all members of both groups, and let the chips fall where they may. I’m tired of being held hostage by the pathologies of Jews and other walking turds.

Fuck ’em both.

As for the American Indians, I prefer to use the term “conquered” rather than stole. Like the Romans conquered Britain, or any other number of conquests throughout history. The problem is we let them keep what little identity they have.

It’s about putting the interests of others …

So you’re saying it’s socialism?

Proud of your I.Q.? That’s fine, but if you really think “Jesus was a gay Jew” (as I assume you are), your much-vaunted I.Q. is lower than you think.

But the Supreme Court is actually 2/9ths Chosen. Which is ~22%.

And of course Jews are smarter than average, but not nearly so far above average as to explain their social dominance. There are other factors at work. If you are a regular reader at this site, you know what those are.

Source for ¶4, please. Thank you.

The author has gone from the frying pan into the fire. He has escaped the influence of the larger group of Jews while coming under the influence of the smaller group, the 20% he says do not support Israel. They support Gaza, and they include people like Noam Chomsky and Judith Butler. Their influence is quite strong, so strong that every young professor supports Gaza over Israel.

Against supporting Gaza (which doesn’t mean that one must support Israel), let me note that this is a part of the world where massacres are frequent and where those who were massacred would happily do the massacring if they were the ones with power. Even worse, there is still slavery in north Africa. Ask yourself why it is so important to support Gaza but to never notice that that slavery still exists. It’s because it serves neither group of Jews to notice it. The larger group is focused on preserving Israel, and the smaller group is focused on destroying the West which for them includes Israel. To focus on that slavery means taking the focus away from what they want us to focus on.

Don’t fall for it.

By the way, with respect to colonialism, don’t fall for their rhetoric on that, either. What can we do to not only free those slaves, but to make sure that they don’t become slaves again? Colonialism.

If blacks are better athletes, then why hasn’t a black African nation won the World Cup?

Modern liberalism, or neo-liberalism as the common nomenclature, is just a religion now. They believe that all the world’s problems are the result of white racism or colonialism or oppression. They have faith that gender is a construct and that race is skin deep, despite biological reality. I know one girl who thinks Romans invented slavery, and war that is how deeply she believes in the sin of whiteness.

I took grew up liberal, all my friends are true believing neo-liberals. I try to talk about Israel and their brains just short circuit and they revert to complaining about Trump. (Conservatives are just as bad, all they do is cry about Faucci or Hunter Biden.) One example is when the Orthodox Jews went and freed the IDF from the court house who were on trial for sodomizing a Palestinian prisoner. I said it’s just like if white supremacists went and freed the NYPD who sodomized Abner Louima with a broomstick, and they just refuse to process the comparison. I had one co worker stare off into space for like 20 seconds while his brain rebooted and he just continued complaining about whatever retarded thing Trump was doing.

If blacks are better athletes, then why hasn’t a black African nation won the World Cup?

France has won it a couple of times (in football/soccer) with some token White or Arab among the black Africans.

And we as a nation are about to be dragged into another slaughterfest on the behalf of you meddlers. If you kikes want to bomb Arabs, I couldn’t care less, but we should not give you any support, military, financial, moral, or otherwise.

I, and many other Americans, are tired of being a backstop for your shitty little country.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israel-mulls-full-war-yemen-puts-iran-notice-following-ben-gurion-airport-strike

Source for ¶4, please. Thank you.

I’ll gladly provide sources to both.

Putin’s praises Jews in speech
https://www.rt.com/russia/598704-putin-jewish-salvation-day/

Putin’s Jewish chef poisoned children with rotten meat to save money:
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/04/26/putins-chef-compensates-victims-caterers-mass-poisoning-moscow-a65401

Putin knew of the poisoning and subsequently helped Prigozhin become a billionaire private warlord contractor.
https://www.eater.com/23309160/who-is-putins-chef-yevgeny-prigozhin-sanctions-concord-catering-wagner-group

It’s all well documented.

I don’t have to make up stories about a psychopathic ex-KGB dwarf and the criminals he chooses to reward. His followers here at Unz however *want to believe* he is somehow sticking it to the Jews even though he praises the Jews and maintains strict anti-semitism laws. Putin’s followers at Unz are just not into reality and prefer a fantasy based view where he will be their up and coming dwarf Hitler.

“Make murrica great again”

Huhuhahaha

An insane and obscure tribe was capable to dominate so called “New Rome” in just one century. That’s why when rather than a real culture, you have “capitalism”. Whats matter for a “burgeious elite” is not character or even intelligence but greed and it was not difficult to convince your “White elites” to sell their own people and civilization for an illusory infinite power…

Murrica the weakest.

It must be an American thing. I can’t see why being a liberal would blind one to the gross abuses and crimes against humanity committed by Israelis.

Sure, but it’s still a fair question as to why people of African origin dominate many sports in some (still) majority European-descent countries but we don’t see a lot of success of national teams from the black African countries themselves, except in certain niches, like east African long-distance runners.

You’d think they’d be the mother lode for genetically advantage talent. Yet we don’t see it.

I don’t pretend to know the answer. Anyone have a theory?

What is funny is that 18th and 19th century liberals played a big part in the spread & expansion of the British Empire (White man’s Burden, Anti-Slavery Movement), only for the new “liberals of today”, basically Marxists, criticizing the policies of the older liberals and using the actions of Western Europeans (colonialism) influenced by earlier liberal thought to constantly critique and destroy Britain/the West.

Well said. best example of these Jewish fake Liberals was David Horowitz that recently went to eternal hell, hopefully and praying. he was a perfect Zionist infiltrator of Liberal class in the US . He advocated Marxism, equality and protection of civil rights but in hindsight was working with the ADL to not only stifle any opposition to his beloved settler racist colony but also pass information about those who were against Apartheid in South Africa to the ADL to be shared with the Mossad and South African apartheid regime. The stupid blacks associated with that charlatan were his perfect victims.
During Vietnam war most of Jews who supposedly opposed the war were clandestinely assisting their racist colony and using their influence, free sex, dope and free residence in Kibbutz to entrap many of these so-called Liberals such as Jane Fonda, Gregory Peck, Burt Lancaster and many other well known “Liberal” Hollywood stars who ferociously spread the Zionist propaganda amongst liberals.
Bottom line is that many of these liberals are actually fake as the write put it so eloquently.

Ok, you don’t care about Palestinians, fine — but it is indicative of a mindset and a worldview. It really shows Jewish cruelty when they bomb the hell out of women and children. And you’re next…

Liberalism is a cover for the naked self interest of the jews…..and the progressive agenda is essentially a blueprint for white genocide.

If blacks are better athletes, then why hasn’t a black African nation won the World Cup?

Because athleticism is only one component of success in team sports. Planning, recruiting, coaching, organization, etc., are just as crucial.

Whites are better planners, organizers and coaches. Blacks are better athletes.

Spare me your mind-numbing sanctimony.

Niggers are currently slaughtering each other by the bushel in Sudan, the men using rape and AIDS as a weapon against women, and you don’t give a fuck about that.

White farmers in South Africa are brutalized daily by darkie savages, and you don’t give a fuck about that.

The two-legged turds trapped in Mexico when Trump brought the hammer down on the border are literally starving to death, and you don’t give a fuck about that.

Blacks every day in America are victimizing Whites with robbery and violence, and you don’t give a fuck about that.

Whites are discriminated against every day in America by their own federal and state governments, and have been since 1964, and you don’t give a fuck about that.

A Palestinian Arab would just as soon cut your throat as give you a glass of water. So shut the fuck up about how much you care. You don’t. Shitty things happen in this world every single minute, and we Whites in American have no obligation to give a fuck about any of it. THAT is America First. White America First.

But the Supreme Court is actually 2/9ths Chosen. Which is ~22%.

Roberts
Gorsuch
Kavanaugh
Sotamayor
Alito
Thomas
Jackson
Coney-Barrett
(((Kagan)))

I spot one kike. Maybe your Jew-dar is stronger than mine, but I only see one.

It’s not my shitty little country, and I don’t think the US should give a nickel in foreign aid to them.

That being said. the Muzzies really do want to take over the world and don’t value human life. This is basically Douglas Murray’s position and I agree.

People in the West seem incapable of wrapping their heads around Islamic fundamentalism. If given the chance, they would kill every last ‘infidel’, which is basically all non-Muslims.

Yes, Moooslimes are inimical to the West and need to be expelled … right alongside the Jews.

Douglas Murray is a nauseating pillow-biter, no matter what he believes.

Whether Putin is in power or not, Russian society is extremely racist, corrupt, and lacks moral principles. Just look at how they view the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people – they brag deceptively about defeating Nazism. It’s all just BS from Putin to Gorbachev and everyone in between.

Thanks, Mr-Chow-Mein. In your first paragraph you refer to a Kantian principle of personal judgment ordering society and then deny its validity in the second when others with incompatible views are brought in from elsewhere. Kantian personal judgment isn’t really personal, however, since it relies on one’s neighbors being cut from the same cultural cloth, which in his case meant with an extraordinary sense of morality, duty to others, and hard work, just like an eighteenth century German burgher. German culture was Christian, both Protestant and Catholic, and in neither case based on personal judgment or sola scriptura. One’s essentially Christian views of right and wrong don’t spring from nowhere.

But, you’re right on target with your conclusion that multiculturalism is by definition the destructive antithesis of a culture and not the beneficial progression of that culture, as the left would have us believe. The goal is destroying Western culture, of course, even though the spiteful destroyers have nothing to put in its place but its negation.

I wouldn’t celebrate too much, if I were you. The “Nazis” were never defeated during World War II. Other than a few who received punishment from the kangaroo Nuremberg Trials, most received a minimal sentence. That is, the ones who did not come to the USA to work for the federal government (Operation Paperclip), or relocate to Central & South America, with their finances intact.

The “Nazis” no longer call themselves Nazis; they now call themselves GLOBALISTS.

Thank you.

Backs need strong discipline. As a general rule their civilization in Africa has stabilized over the millennia into the strong man type of system. Stupid White man comes along and destroys their system/civilization. Stupid White man has stupid ideas of equality, inclusion and diversity further eroding strong man system. What is the “Strong Man” system? Itz a system where heads will get chopped off and roll if one gets out of line. This system has been proven to work in Africa. Itz time to implement this in Europe and the Americas.

“I believed that we owed something to the less-fortunate of society, no matter who they were. I believed that, by and large, the American system worked, and that the best would move up in society and prosper. And I believed that most everyone shared these views.”

Well, your naivete’s is not uncommon. But that you think somehow that blacks and “jews” are responsible for the above not being the case is just willfull blindness. What did you think that Jim Crow laws, redlining, dispareate, housing policies, barriers to employment and advance based on skin color codified by inaccuarate narratives clothed in sociology and science would bring the country.

What you thought was practiced was only so applide/operated/considred (if that term works) in certain societies and populations ad most definittely a goal for whites to whites, jews or nonjews. Your wakeup call is a tad late and qorse, devoid of any real sense of the reality for millions of US citizens, not in your sphere of experience or knowledge.

If multiculturalism doesn’t work, imagine trying to get multiracialism to work.

I like that Zionist Supremacist!! When chaos reigns I will take great pleasure in asking the question:

“What kind of Jewish American are you???”

It is quite amazing how white liberals justify the genocide in Gaza; I was astonished that my own brother was telling me that the Gazans deserved what they were getting because they had been a continuous nuisance to the Jews of Israel.

Liberals support the genocide because the target is a nuisance? Yet these very same people say that the Holocaust was a terrible crime; the Holocaust being the fairytale of Jews being genocided because they were a nuisance to Hitler.

White humans can be incredibly stupid, their survival skills are near zero.

I came to see that religion—and specifically Christianity—was a malevolent force in society, one that again served to benefit a certain group of people at the expense of many others.

Typical dumb UR commentary. This take would be ‘edgy’ maybe 100 years ago. Now it is a joke, as it is obvious that Christianity was the central target of liberalism from the start. You can’t condemn liberalism and in the same breath condemn Christianity.

The anti-Christian crap on UR really comes off as total Boomer-tiered thinking.

Dafuq? Of course they carpet bombed Gaza. Have you not seen the photos and videos? On top of that they simply mowed down any civilians (men, women, children) and animals in their sights – on orders to do so. They target journalists and their families (Hmm..wonder why), and have leveled the strip. Only self-deluded kikes can’t or won’t see the reality.

Yeah, right. Because it’s never the other way around either, is it? Certain Christians target liberal thought and use state organs to do so because they are a minority.

It’s very simple. This is used to disgust Jews.
Moreover, the theory of the Khazar Jews can indeed trace its origin from China, because the royal family of the Khazar Jews did indeed migrate there starting from the Tang Dynasty.
You can’t be a Jew, which is why your reaction is so intense, can you?

As I understand it, research has been done (by a few brave psychologists) to ascertain average IQ of various groups; and, perhaps surprisingly, Jewish people were found to be slightly, but not very much, above average. Perhaps on a par with Chinese people.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country

The countries with the top IQ scores are China, Taiwan, Hong Kong at 107.
USA comes in at 99.7
Israel comes in at 99.1.

Blacks are not better athletes. Author Don Jeffries has covered this subject extensively. Blacks get picked over Whites. Racism in reverse. You must live under a rock.

https://substack.com/home/post/p-148809564?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Portnoy is a Jew, didn’t know this when I posted. So he’s part of the tribe, still think it’s a false flag orchestrated by him.

-Rooster

It won’t be by politics. Politics is enemy territory. It’ll take 8 billion Sovereigns voluntarily cooperating outside of politics. 8 billion little steps add up to a giant step. Just as south africa bent to the will of the world so will all governments. BDS all governments and their crony corporations AMAP. Shun militarism and coercive government/organizations. Don’t participate in the fiat monetary system AMAP.

One must ask if Jews are 2% of the US population, why are they half of the US Supreme Court and most members of the Federal Reserve? Why are Jews 15% of the US Senate?

Why? For perhaps a similar reason why blacks, who comprise only 15-18% of the U.S. population, comprise 40-48% of violent crime offenders behind bars. Maybe they’re ‘smarter’ than your average ethnicity, and/or due to their higher rates of intelligence are historically drawn to certain professions?

I am reminded of the joke from Airplane, when the stewardess is proffering reading material to a passenger, she offers the usual magazines, periodicals…”and this leaflet on famous Jewish sports legends!” You don’t come across too many Jewish laborers either—-er, at least not in the last 3000 years.

Whether Putin is in power or not, Russian society is extremely racist, corrupt, and lacks moral principles. Just look at how they view the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people – they brag deceptively about defeating Nazism.

The British described Russia as only having one foot in Europe and that their Tsars will continue to invade their neighbors out of a lingering insecurity.

The Germans described Russian men as half suicidal and strangely accepting of mindless attacks that make zero sense and lead to needless casualties. Dying for the Tsar appeared to be in their blood.

These observations fit the current war and were made before WW2.

It’s all just BS from Putin to Gorbachev and everyone in between.

Well Putin is desperate hope for many here to the point where they have no interest in reality and especially not his explicit support for Israel. Putin openly called Netenyahu a close friend and makes regular trips where he puts on the party hat.

Putin could give Netenyahu a back massage on live TV on our Putin defenders would tell us that you can’t trust Jewish media.

Us Evangelicals have figured it out and look how happy and prosperous we are!

I see all you evangelicals all over Africa; Africa has even more evangelicals that does the USA.

You are so obviously an American, so the rest of the world (apart from Israel) does not exist, which is why you say such stupid comments. Why has your god abandoned the evangelicals in Africa, why are they poor? Why don’t they get properity in return for being shafted by the Jews?

Evangelicals are children, their mentality is such that they cannot survive in this world without being dominated by some other group designated as their parents; they just cannot see themselves as self reliant and top dog; enjoy bending over for Jewsus.

Portnoy is jewish, retard

No niggers near the top of strongman or powerlifting rankings.

I am also longing to celebrate the. . . demise of Jewish evil.

Then perhaps you should stop using the term ‘Nazi’ and show some respect for the last movement that credibly faced down the (((evil))) to which you refer.

Clown.

Portnoy is a Jew, didn’t know this when I posted.

You didn’t know that ‘Portnoy’ is a Jewish name?!

Pretty new to the game, huh?

You should get out more.

The reason Jews are disproportionately represented in academia is that they’re smart. Smarter that Whites, on average, by 15 IQ points or so.

What a crock of shit.

Read, dumb-ass:

https://files.catbox.moe/7erfay.pdf

Linus: “… it is obvious that Christianity was the central target of liberalism from the start. You can’t condemn liberalism and in the same breath condemn Christianity.”

Christian theologian John Locke is widely regarded as the father of liberalism. Odd that he would make his own religion the “target”, doncha think? LOL

And of course you CAN condemn liberalism and Christianity in the same breath, since the former evolved from the latter. What’s perverse, as I pointed out in #29 above, is claiming to be a liberal and at the same time condemning Christianity. Liberals like Skrbina, who do so, are unaware of how much of their belief system comes from Christianity.

Linus: “The anti-Christian crap on UR really comes off as total Boomer-tiered thinking. ”

Destroying racial unity by setting the generations against one another is Christian-tier thinking.

For I came to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law;
— Matthew 10:35

Mission accomplished, rabbi Jeebus!

Political liberalism holds freedom as its highest value

I agree, but am not sure that Liberalism as a political philosophy can really hold anything as a ‘transcendent value‘. Subscribing to the line that politics is downstream of culture, I would assert that Liberalism followed the path of the dominant cultural philosophy which abandoned any recognition of transcendence, instead viewing the world in strictly material terms.

It is Liberalism’s adherence to Materialism (philosophical and then literal) that has led the political culture into debauchery, narcissism, authoritarianism and exceptional support for Zionist ethno-nationalism.

Perhaps it is Materialism that is the thing that is really ‘on the ropes’, as well as (or rather than) Liberalism ?

Have you worked out why they’re different though? Cos, that’s the tricky part.

Destroying racial unity by setting the generations against one another is Christian-tier thinking.

In my opinion, it wasn’t Christianity that did that, but modern notions of “liberalism”.

Take the 20th Century: What began as Christianity’s—-if not mankind’s—-finest hour, the Edwardian era, ended with every basic thread of the Christian/Patriarchal fabric torn asunder. The whole of the last century was one long assault on values held dear by the Edwardians—-values not unlike those the “Christian Right” wish to restore today: Strict family units, racial homogeneity, patriarchal/matriarchal households, observance to God, bootstrap work ethic, limited government. ALL were what imbued the Edwardian era with greatness; Protestant greatness.

Alas, with the ever-permissive ‘liberal’ attitudes of progressivism, feminism, youth worship (Hail! Hail! Rock and Roll!), racial divisiveness and individualism, Westernkind has now reached its nadir. All in but 100 years time.

And it wasn’t Christianity, or Whites, that was responsible, but the folks selling us a pig in a poke, relying on Christian notions of “tolerance” (and not a without a small measure of help from the U.S. Constitution itself) to close the deal.

Maybe the simple fact is, we didn’t fight hard enough.

We can go back to ancient times, but the relevant arrival of freethinkers probably came with the mid-18th century atheistic philosophes and somewhat later deists who in the latter case mainly believed in a divine, hands-off creator. Taking Reason as their God or sole guide, respectively, proved that reason alone is a cruel master. Christianity is still here, but all the initiatory, occult anti-religions from the late 19th century to the post-WW I period with seances and Ouija boards have become parodies of themselves.

In the 1960s, humanist psychology was all the rage, marching under the edgy banners of the time, such as “do your own thing,” “challenge everything,” “my truth,” etc. It’s also become a parody of itself, yet still bearing its evil fruit with these demands that one’s opinions on everything be taken as sacrosanct, but with no obligation as an adult to defend one’s opinions in a civil manner when questioned. TDS is such an evolution of the 1960s’ renewed front against Christianity, where spluttering, rageful comments have become standard fare from the left, who can do their own thing, but nobody else is allowed to.

Ironically, liberalism has been the battering ram used by the intolerant left to tear down the existing order, as the author points out, but no sooner are they in charge than the gloves come off and out comes the guillotine. Instead of a united Christian stance against the homicidal intentions of totalitarian leftism, however, we’re represented by thumb-sucking clergy and representatives in Congress who prove they’re not Christians when it counts..

His bar should be called Portnoy’s Complaint in deference to Roth.

Ummm…

Yeah, that may well be true. But it still doesn’t explain why superior African athletic ability (in some sports, anyway) is more apparent in Europe or North America than in sub-Saharan Africa itself. If your thesis is correct, we should see more evidence of it in its place of origin, not less.

No niggers near the top of strongman or powerlifting rankings.

This is true, but I would argue that culture and socioeconomics is the explanation.

It’s more or less the same situation with other White-dominated sports, like hockey, volleyball, rugby, lacrosse, tennis, golf, skiing, etc.

Blacks would absolutely dominate most of those sports–well, maybe not golf and skiing–if those sports were part of Black culture like basketball and football.

Blacks are not better athletes. Author Don Jeffries has covered this subject extensively. Blacks get picked over Whites. Racism in reverse. You must live under a rock.

There really is no reasoning with the mentally retarded.

Professional sport is a business, you fucking moron. The more you win, the more money you make.

Do you really believe that the owners of professional sports teams would sacrifice winning–and therefore PROFITS–in order to promote some sort of anti-racist agenda?

I thought I’d heard it all, but the idea that owners of sports teams, many of whom are Jews, would deliberately undercut their chances of making money is absolutely ridiculous.

You don’t need to be an expert to figure this out. Just look at athletes like LeBron James, or Mike Tyson, or Usain Bolt. They don’t even look like the same species as White athletes.

Ironically, liberalism has been the battering ram used by the intolerant left to tear down the existing order, as the author points out, but no sooner are they in charge than the gloves come off and out comes the guillotine.

This is actually close to what Nietzsche predicted.

He expected Christianity to decline with humanist or secular egalitarian ideologies to follow.

But this was to only be a temporary phase with hostile anti-individual and anti-merit movements to develop. Basically a revenge of the crowds against their betters. An alliance of the mediocre without any Christian or Western values to temper them. A new wave of violent nihilism based in resentment.

Yeah, that may well be true. But it still doesn’t explain why superior African athletic ability (in some sports, anyway) is more apparent in Europe or North America than in sub-Saharan Africa itself. If your thesis is correct, we should see more evidence of it in its place of origin, not less.

You also don’t see NFL players coming from Haiti or South America.

It has to do with slave breeding in the US.

The Black athletes you see on television are mixed race. Their ancestors were bred by Whites.

That is why the US has some very large Blacks. They are much larger than the Bantu of West Africa that were sold into slavery. The US government banned the importation of slaves but allowed the breeding of slaves as a compromise. Countries like Brazil continued to import them.

It is quite amazing how white liberals justify the genocide in Gaza; I was astonished that my own brother was telling me that the Gazans deserved what they were getting because they had been a continuous nuisance to the Jews of Israel.

So you think your brother represents or speaks for all white liberals? I think that used to be called jumping to a wild conclusion, or in more modern terms, cognitive distortion.

“Liberal” is a just a convenient label for lazy thinkers who want to play the blame game.

At least the label or term “Boomers,” or more accurately “Baby Boomers” has some demographic basis, generally defined as that cohort born between 1946 and 1964, but as I’ve gone to some lengths to explain in the past, the accepted time frame for Boomer births is far too wide, even if one thinks 1964 was still the post-war period.

The real post-war baby boom was over by the mid-’50s. Heck, by 1964, we were already in another war.

The rise of television marks a convenient dividing line, around 1955, between the real Post-War Baby Boomers, and the backside, or 2nd decade, of that cohort.

Most in the first group, like yours truly, learned to read before there was a TV in the house, while most in the second group were watching TV already before they’d learned to read.

In 1946, only about 44,000 U.S. homes, or 0.03%, had a television set, but that had grown to 1% by 1948, 50% by 1953, and by 1960, fully 90% of U.S. households had a Boob Tube. TVs in the house reduce the time spent reading. As the old saw goes, if you really want to learn something, you’re going to have to “crack the books.” Sitting in front of the boob tube won’t do it.

It ain’t what you don’t know that hurts you; it’s what you know that just ain’t so.

— American traditional

~

Liberals are the only group that has consistently opposed U.S. wars of aggression.

I didn’t think there were very many “Conservatives” marching in early 2003 to protest Pres. Bush’s planned invasion of Iraq. I recall about a couple thousand of us gathered after a march through San Luis Obispo on Feb, 15 2003, joining millions worldwide that day.

As the peace demonstrators rallied after the march, lurking over on the edge of Mitchell Park were five – count ’em – 5 whole demonstrators out in support of Bush’s planned invasion, or “preemptive strike,” as New Times writer Natalie Connolly described it in her column on the 2/15/2004 peace march, using the term no less than 13 times, while “peace” got 7 mentions.

Liberals in action. Read about it here:

https://www.newtimesslo.com/archive/2003-10-22/archives/cov_stories_2003/cov_02202003.html

David Bartlett: “In my opinion, it wasn’t Christianity that [set the generations against one another], but modern notions of “liberalism”. … And it wasn’t Christianity, or Whites, that was responsible, but the folks selling us a pig in a poke, relying on Christian notions of “tolerance” (and not a without a small measure of help from the U.S. Constitution itself) to close the deal.”

One cannot, it seems to me, blame “Christian notions of tolerance” without blaming Christianity itself; and indeed, to blame liberalism at all is to blame what gave it birth. Both liberalism and Christianity evolve, and the liberalism of John Locke — the old-time liberalism Skirbina fancies — is only the political expression of a certain form of Christianity.

Christianity came into the world as a revolutionary creed, proclaiming its intent to destroy the existing order in numerous ways, bringing not peace, but a sword, as it says in the verse preceding the one I quoted. At bottom, what was its most revolutionary introduction was the idea of “human dignity” and inherent “human rights”, so it’s fitting that you also blame the US Constitution, a document formed in large measure from John Locke’s views on the proper, and very Christian, relationship between man and the state. But one problem with human rights is that there’s no logical stopping point to them. For example, you may think you have a “right” to free expression, but what about somebody else’s “right” not to be offended by your free expression? That’s how hate speech laws are justified. It turns out that the surest way to destroy a right is to invent a new one that trumps the old one. The white right of free association and racial exclusivity was destroyed by the nigger’s right to go and live and work wherever he wants. And if men have rights, and even male niggers, why not women too? Having granted the former, on what conceivable basis could “rights” have been denied to women? Feminism, which has destroyed the nuclear family, is just another word for women’s rights. The history of the evolution of liberalism is one of building such castles in the air, piling imaginary “right” upon “right” until the whole structure collapses.

David Bartlett: “Maybe the simple fact is, we didn’t fight hard enough. ”

Or fought for the wrong thing. Because the one comes from the other, it has turned out that fighting for Christianity is the same thing as fighting for liberalism. Liberalism is the fruit of the poisonous tree called Christianity.

Whether Blacks are “better athletes” than Whites depends entirely on how you define “athletes”. Having been a fan of running as a sport since boyhood, I tend to go with the British definition of “athletics” as what Americans call “track and field”.

Have you watched an athletics meeting (track meet) lately? Not many White faces these days, especially at the very top level. I watched the London Marathon, and the lead group of about 20 consisted almost exclusively of Africans (including some who had emigrated for better opportunities).

Admittedly, Whites still hold out in some events such as Pole Vault that require fairly expensive equipment, and perhaps throwing events that reward strength even at the cost of bulky muscles.

Have you watched an athletics meeting (track meet) lately? Not many White faces these days,

Really?

Cole Hocker stuns the world, outkicks Josh Kerr to win men’s 1500m title Olympic gold.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5684698/2024/08/06/cole-hocker-mens-1500m-olympic-results/

The number one pick in the NBA draft this year will almost certainly be 6’9″ Duke forward Cooper Flagg, a paleface.

Agreet

True. But unfortunately a lot of Muslims still think o jews as good people of the book. They haven’t realised that jews don’t worship the same god as them, but Satan or Moloch. With their beliefs, it can’t be a good god

Nicely said. I agree that the nominal ‘start’ should be the Enlightenment. I was trained on phenomenology so I naturally cast it back to the scientific revolution, but all of it is basically this attack on the Church. Liberalism has been a curse for the west.

Was Nazi Germany Christian according to your understanding? And if so, was the intention for it to remain Christian?

Or fought for the wrong thing. Because the one comes from the other, it has turned out that fighting for Christianity is the same thing as fighting for liberalism. Liberalism is the fruit of the poisonous tree called Christianity.

Yes we all realize you blame Christianity for liberalism.

But I have pointed out many times that secular Whites have much lower fertility rates and give heavily to Democrats.

Secularism in Whites clearly favors liberalism. Whites stop breeding within liberalism and fully dedicate themselves to liberalism. They adopt world guilt and view themselves as unworthy of having children.

Why should White people cheer the fall of Christianity when it supports a competing ideology that works against them? Catholics at least have children while secular liberal White women turn into self-loathing dog moms.

I would like a logical answer and not a general rant about Christianity or liberalism.

A logical answer that explains rational group interest within these competing belief systems.

On a off-topic sidenote, these liberals won’t like that video with Thomas Sowell talking about who started slavery.

Video Link

John Johnson: “Yes we all realize you blame Christianity for liberalism. But I have pointed out many times that secular Whites have much lower fertility rates and give heavily to Democrats.”

That’s not a refutation. If anything, it’s a confirmation of what I said. The “secular” whites aren’t really abandoning Christianity at all. They retain its basic moral framework, only jettisoning belief in the supernatural. On this view, “secular” whites can be said to have abandoned Christianity only if they no longer believe in the fiction of human rights. That’s a vanishingly small portion of ex-Christians, if there even are any.

John Johnson: “I would like a logical answer and not a general rant about Christianity or liberalism. A logical answer that explains rational group interest within these competing belief systems. ”

The fact that you think they are competing belief systems shows you don’t understand that your above dichotomy between “secular” whites and Christian whites is a false one. They’re not competing. Since the one gives rise to the other, Christians are like people who insist on living in a garbage dump and then never stop complaining about the flies. In fact, they create the garbage dump themselves with their insistence that there are such a things as “human rights” and a “brotherhood of man”. Move out of the garbage dump! Get rid of such religious garbage! Then the flies will go away.

NEETzschean: “Was Nazi Germany Christian according to your understanding? And if so, was the intention for it to remain Christian? ”

I think that most of the people were Christian, accepting both its moral framework and its supernatural claims, but the leadership was moving away from it. Yet the abstract, philosophical question of whether human rights exist and should be respected was never, to my knowledge, directly addressed by Hitler or anyone else at the elite level. I find it disturbing that, as far as I can see, Hitler only attacked the Church, and never Christ himself or his teachings. In fact, he insists that Jesus is an Aryan! That makes me wonder how much he accepted of Jesus’ message. There’s no question he’s on record as having accepted some of it — namely, Jesus’ supposed hatred of Jews.

I appreciate Dr. Sowell,

but its hard to take grabbing him off the shelf as a symbol of intellectual black prowess merely because he advances an agenda that suits whotes. When the same groups hammered his intellect when he acknowledged that IQ is not static and is not static to skin color.

If the system in Germany had moved away from Christianity after winning the war, do you think that, in the absence of Christian ethics and the rebirth of European Paganism, they could have possibly got control over the technological system? National Socialism had primitive characteristics as well as modern, whereas liberalism and communism were entirely in favour of overcoming race, sex and history.

NEETzschean: “If the system in Germany had moved away from Christianity after winning the war, do you think that, in the absence of Christian ethics and the rebirth of European Paganism, they could have possibly got control over the technological system?”

No, because humanity doesn’t have control over it; it can’t and never will, any more than it can wrest control of its own destiny from that which Nature has decreed.

What’s the meaning of control in this context? If I drive a car, I can say I have control over it, at least until something unexpected happens. Perhaps the brakes go out, or a tire blows, or, as happened to me yesterday, another driver pulled out in front of me when I was going about 50mph. Luckily, this time I was able to take evasive action and avert a collision, but everyone isn’t always so lucky. We don’t have control over any of the stuff that may unexpectedly happen, but we accept all of these risks as “rules of the game”. We think we’re in control while we’re playing the game, but the rules don’t change. All technologies carry risks, and the system as a whole is guaranteed to fail at some point, just as, if I kept driving long enough, eventually I’d get into a fatal accident. Or again, you think you are in control of your own body, but even now some lethal bacillus may be taking root in your intestines, or perhaps an embolism forming in your brain, and you could die of it two minutes from now. Certainly it’s true that your physical system will fail at some point, and when it does, it will probably come as a surprise. From this it’s clear that all we can ever have is an illusion of control.

Besides this though, in other remarks, you may recall that in my view, religion is itself a social technology and hence a part of the technological system. I think that, in the evolution of this system, Christianity has evolved to be what it is for very good reasons, and replacing it wouldn’t necessarily be easy. Because a change to one part of such a complex system would almost certainly affect other parts widely removed from it, the results would be unpredictable, perhaps catastrophic. Could it be that the collective intelligence of humanity sensed this, and that’s why it put so much effort into stopping Hitler? Food for thought.

That’s not a refutation. If anything, it’s a confirmation of what I said. The “secular” whites aren’t really abandoning Christianity at all. They retain its basic moral framework, only jettisoning belief in the supernatural.

You’re repeating yourself but not answering the question.

You believe liberalism inherits from Christianity.

That is a theory and yes we all understand you subscribe to it. My question might not have been clear so let me re-phrase it:

Why should White people cheer the fall of Christianity when the absence of Christianity for over 100 years has led to a competing ideology that works against them?

Secularism leads to anti-White liberalism in Western society.

The fact that you think they are competing belief systems shows you don’t understand that your above dichotomy between “secular” whites and Christian whites is a false one. They’re not competing. Since the one gives rise to the other

No they are competing when Marx openly called for the removal of Christianity as a hindrance to Communism. Early Russian revolutionaries actually made deals with Islamic countries and agreed to let them continue their beliefs. Christian priests were rounded up and sent to camps.

Liberalism is based on Marx in that they view a controlling government as the solution to eliminating inequality. It is secular in origin and like Marxism clearly views Christianity as a competing system. There are thousands of examples where liberals try to diminish or denigrate Christianity but grant Islam an exemption. When was the last time you watched a 2 hour Hollywood movie that turned Muhammed into a musical figure or comedic caricature? There are dozens of films made by liberals that completely attack Christianity. They view it as a direct threat to their plans. You can find articles by secular liberals that talk about Christianity as the White man’s religion that allows US conservatism to flourish.

Get rid of such religious garbage! Then the flies will go away.

You’re not facing the reality of the situation. Saying it is all a problem is like saying we shouldn’t use oil or clean energy. That isn’t a solution when you don’t have one.

The data is clear that White Christians turn to liberalism within secularism. Those patterns have been clear since the 1920s. Most White people do not question liberalism when they leave Christianity. Waving your hands and saying they should does not change the reality.

You’re not providing or changing anything by stating “all are bad” and then grumping about what you don’t like about Christianity. I am very critical of Evangelical Christianity but I have been around enough liberals to accept that the data is correct in that most Whites are not capable of seeing past liberal orthodoxy. It just isn’t possible. I am fine with exploring why that is the case but you are engaging in reality avoidance by stating everyone should stop going to church and stop following liberalism. It’s so ridiculously unrealistic to where you might as well suggest we all move to Mars. If you don’t have a solution then you are just yelling at a wall that hasn’t moved for a hundred years.

Its just like a philosopher to write letters to no one, shove them in an empty whiskey bottle and throw it out to sea.

Don’t worry, the bottle is right where you left it, and you can do the same thing again tomorrow.

John Johnson: “You believe liberalism inherits from Christianity. That is a theory …”

A theory with plenty of support, which I’ve given. You, on the other hand, have offered absolutely no evidence to refute or disprove this idea. You simply deny it, labeling liberalism “secular”, pretending the two terms are mutually exclusive even though the family resemblance, and line of descent, is clear. To the extent they are different, they are only different in the same way that sects of Christianity are different. The very existence of such a thing as Christian communism is proof of this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism

John Johnson: “[In the USSR] Christian priests were rounded up and sent to camps. ”

I don’t doubt that some of them were. Others, sensing an opportunity for advancement, enthusiastically cooperated and became militant atheists.

But you seem unaware of the fact that neither Christian churches nor Christianity itself was ever outlawed in the USSR. The state simply took over this eminently compatible belief system, in much the same way, perhaps, that the Catholic Church is allowed in China today. The state took over the selection of priests, bishops, and so forth.

The Russian Orthodox Church was subordinate and controlled by the Soviet State. Its chief newspaper was proofed by the KGB before publication. Its clergy were promoted, demoted, and assigned according to the preferences of state authorities. The curriculum and admissions at its seminaries were subject to the veto of authorities….Some clergymen and bishops turned KGB informers. As for the patriarch, he was obliged to make ‘positive propaganda’ for the Soviet Union abroad…
— Ramet, Sabrina P. 1998. Nihil Obstat: Religion, Politics, and Social Change in East-Central Europe and Russia. Durham: Duke University Press, p. 229, as quoted in Froese, Paul 2004. Forced Secularization in Soviet Russia: Why an Atheistic Monopoly Failed, p. 6

https://www.wcfia.harvard.edu/resource/download-pdf-62

John Johnson: “[Getting rid of the spiritual garbage called Christianity] isn’t a solution when you don’t have one. ”

No, I do have a solution, and I’ve offered it before. The solution is to destroy the technological system. A post-collapse world would mean the demise of liberalism along with the industrial society that enabled it and gave it birth. In the harsh environment that would result, it can reasonably be anticipated that the various human races would naturally separate, thus preserving the white race from mongrelization. True, it would cost billions of lives, but as that famous fellow said, if you want to make an omelet, you have to break a few eggs.

The only true “liberals” in majority white Christian nations (like the United States) are the white Christians who advocate for liberal causes and who stand nothing to gain by advocating the interests of others (of “minorities”) – and not Jews who advocate on behalf of the interests of non-white-Christians.

Christendom, for 2000 years, was practiced as Moses-Christianity. With the advent of the “Jewish Century” and its mass-scale, (golden calf) fiat central bank Ponzi — with these hebroid bankster/moneychanger scumbags and their lowlife accomplices running it and doing propaganda for it — Christendom abruptlyceased being practiced as Moses-Christianity and started being practiced as cuck-Christ (Orwell’s little brother to the totalitarian “Big Brother” warfare/welfare state in 1984) and rat-fascist “Israel” assumed the identity of “Moses” (when in fact the original Moses KILLED golden calf Ponzi schemers). So the carrot and stick aspect of Moses-Christianity was removed by these hebroid and Judas Class reptiles, leaving “Christ” to take the blame for the downfall of Christendom and Western Civilization, when in fact it was an inside job initiated by Satanic hebroid reptiles. (Judeofascists and their tools criticize Christian/Western civilization, and glorify Judeofascist pseudo-civilization which serves the hebroid grifters and Judas Class.)

The Synagogue of Satan moneychangers who evolved out of the hunted and hated golden calf Ponzi voodoo outlaws, grifters, parasites, thieves, slavers, killers, and ritualistic human sacraficers, had infiltrated and taken over Christendom, just as they previously infiltrated and taken over the authentic Jews.

It seems like the Jesse Jackson/Jimmy Carter wing of the Democratic Party is back. Carter was seen as anti-Israel, pro-Arafat, that he lost reelection in 1980.

Jesse Jackson did not have a chance winning the Democratic nomination in ’84 and ’88, because the Zionists were in control.

Seems like Zionists in the Left are losing steam.

Schumer is gonna be forced out in 2028.

JB Pritzker, Jon Ossoff, Rahm Emanuel, Josh Shapiro will have a hard time winning the nomination because the anti-Zionist left is gaining steam again for the first time since 1976….

I’m constantly being followed by cops right now but I feel great. My name is Thomas Robert Stead, descendent of William Thomas Stead, who was murdered on the “titanic” by international forces. I was the leader of the Lancaster Traditionalist Society, I attended uni from 2015-2018. I’ve found that when you have genius level ability, the system will do whatever it can to neutralise you. Even my family have been in on it. Many admissions have been made.

East Germany had a huge spy network but it’s nothing compared to what we have now with modern technology. The technological system is causing major problems for the controllers I think, ChatGpt for instance gives everyone a supercomputer, even though it is regulated half-effectively or effectively for most.

NEETzschean: “I’ve found that when you have genius level ability, the system will do whatever it can to neutralise you. Even my family have been in on it. Many admissions have been made.”

Yes, the group mind can sense threats, and the family is its first line of defense. Enforced conformity is the order of the day, and family feelings, particularly the oxytocin hit of “love” — the existence of which is an illusion that arises within the individual partly as a matter of instinct — and the real or imagined obligations of its members, are a way of bringing that about. How many children, I wonder, have been crippled by their parents, and all in the name of “love”? Our correspondent CT has written about some of this, although from a somewhat different angle than I have. My impression is that very few people escape childhood without being maimed in some way by the people who “love” them. Maimed for their own good! LOL

But if that initial, family level of control doesn’t succeed in inducing conformity, people of quality (or genius, as you put it) will always encounter resistance from society at large for this same reason. Often they are imprisoned, and not infrequently, executed. Society itself is like an organism that has ways of protecting itself. In modern society, the police are like antibodies sent after internal threats to its own good order, its own continued existence.

Chinese, Indians, and Jews are anything but smarter than the Europeans you aggregate as whites—as the entire sweep of civilization proves. In fact, left to their own devices, the Chinese, Indians, and Jews are incapable of forming modern civilizations without relying on the advances made almost entirely by Europeans around the world.

In science, for example, Einstein plagiarized the two theories of relativity. When he came to the states he embarrassed himself when white engineering students at Clark University, as I recall it was, asked him questions about the math he obviously hadn’t a clue about, and, furthermore, he had to turn over the money from the Nobel Prize to his Serbian Catholic, physicist wife, Mareva, who many believe had to have done the math. His defenders defend him with chutzpah, not facts.

A Chinese kid in one of my kid’s class was already taking College Boards preparatory test-taking skills at “Chinese camp” on Saturdays in the fourth grade, where they also learned things like perfecting a single sports move to give the impression of overall competence and get picked for a team. Jewish kids were learning the same stuff at Hebrew school on Saturdays, and when it comes to “flash card scholarship” posing for mastery, nobody holds a candle to the Indians.

Nobody’s saying any of these races don’t have brilliant people, but your contention they’re intellectually superior to the Europeans you call whites, given the sweep of history, is nonsense. The problem for “whites” is that they haven’t yet recognized that education credentialism is as much a weapon being used against them by the Chinese, Jews, and Indians as guns, but remain for the time being the best weapons under the circumstances in their war against the European civilization they otherwise ape in their own circles to the point of embarrassment.

Muslims are even dumber than Christian goys. Of course they can easily be tricked: he’s a good keed, he from the book.
In Guatemala, of all places, there is a vociferous pro-Israel envangelical strain. LOL

“Why is ‘Nazi’ synonymous with ‘bad’? Why do we hear so much about the Holocaust?”

Probably because the ashkeNAZI’s are such CU’s!

I’ve had similar thoughts regarding cars. As I’m walking down the street a car could fly off the road and plough into me, whether due to driver intoxication/distraction, vehicle malfunction or murderous intent. I’m exposed to a barrage of annoying noises and unpleasant, toxic smells from cars. They are a status symbol, so they encourage people to enslave themselves to acquire them (including taking out loans and insurance, registration, buying fuel, MOT, vehicle taxes, parking tickets, paying for and passing driving test and theory, bureaucratic submission etc.). Every modern car comes equipped with a variety of surveillance/tracking devices, so privacy/freedom is inherently limited wherever cars exist. And society has to be arranged around the existence of cars, which means less freedom for those who prefer old fashioned means of travel and old fashioned community life. The car is inherently sedentary, training their users to be passive (waiting around in traffic, aside from being annoying, breeds docility), fat (driver’s often pick up junk food at a “drive thru”) or slave at the gym for inferior health to what they could have had naturally.

Yet for all of the problems of cars, the self-driving versions that technology works towards would further undermine freedom as they could be impossible to steal (instant shut down), you’d have no control over the destination if the system didn’t want you to and they’d be easier for the system (or perhaps rebel groups) to hack. That last point however suggests that car bombs could become a serious problem again, which logically means the system will have to increase its totalitarian control to mitigate this. But this comes with a litany of its own problems, especially in a diverse society.

This is going to end in disaster.

This is what I don’t get. All the wailing about Jews, yet few care to examine what it means. If true, they are better at playing the game than natives. That is where the focus has to be.

“What’s the meaning of control in this context? If I drive a car, I can say I have control over it, at least until something unexpected happens. Perhaps the brakes go out, or a tire blows, or, as happened to me yesterday, another driver pulled out in front of me when I was going about 50mph. Luckily, this time I was able to take evasive action and avert a collision, but everyone isn’t always so lucky. We don’t have control over any of the stuff that may unexpectedly happen, but we accept all of these risks as “rules of the game”. We think we’re in control while we’re playing the game, but the rules don’t change. All technologies carry risks, and the system as a whole is guaranteed to fail at some point, just as, if I kept driving long enough, eventually I’d get into a fatal accident. Or again, you think you are in control of your own body, but even now some lethal bacillus may be taking root in your intestines, or perhaps an embolism forming in your brain, and you could die of it two minutes from now. Certainly it’s true that your physical system will fail at some point, and when it does, it will probably come as a surprise. From this it’s clear that all we can ever have is an illusion of control.”

Don’t these objections apply to life in wild nature as well? Though not to the same degree because while one is subject to the laws of nature and the folk community, they don’t have a technological hegemon restricting them.

NEETzschean: “Don’t these objections apply to life in wild nature as well?”

Sure, but at a low level of technology the unintended consequences of its use aren’t potentially planet-destroying. We know that one of the “rules of the game” is that the more powerful the technology, the more powerful are the unintended consequences. This rule can’t be changed, no matter who gives the appearance of being in control of the system. Therefore technological “Progress”, continued indefinitely, will necessarily end in disaster.

To reprise, your question was: “If the system in Germany had moved away from Christianity after winning the war, do you think that, in the absence of Christian ethics and the rebirth of European Paganism, they could have possibly got control over the technological system?”

This is a kind of “alternative history” idea which implicitly rejects a deterministic view of reality. You say: IF Germany had won the war; IF they moved away from Christianity, can we imagine them getting control over the system? My answer is that there’s no way to control the system given what we know about it, and what we know about human beings and the way the world works. But if you’re going to imagine that Germany won the war, and imagine further that they moved away from Christianity, then sure, why not? In my view, you’re already in quite a different universe than the one we actually live in. That being the case, there’s no reason to deny yourself a happy ending. Imagine it all you want. But why go to all that trouble? Why not fantasize that human beings just as they are now will one day be able to voluntarily give up high technology? Ellul himself did this, and Skrbina believes it too. Unlike me, they believe in free will. Unlike them, I see a deterministic reality governed entirely by a struggle for survival that will force the indefinite continuation of technological “progress”, giving an illusion of human control right up until the point of the inevitable disaster that ends the white race, and perhaps even ends all life on Earth.

I don’t believe in free will either and I agree with your criticism of the problems with my question (also, I’d have had to specify what winning the war would have looked like, at what time, would they have defeated America as well etc.) It’s a speculative hypothetical but if the answer to it is “It’s feasible they could have rolled back technology with the power of a global totalitarian state, had Heidegger been Hitler’s court philospher” then that could say something about the future. In ATR, Kaczynski discusses the ability or lack thereof of a small number of “philosopher kings” to “benevolently guide” the “progress” of the technological system. Perhaps rolling it back in a controlled way would be easier than “guiding” its progress? In any case, it’s possible that if the technological system fails to a significant degree, the White race will survive and that the system will never be built back to its current level due to resource restrictions as you’ve articulated before.

‘In my view, you’re already in quite a different universe than the one we actually live in. That being the case, there’s no reason to deny yourself a happy ending.’

I think that in logic this is called: ‘ā falsō quodlibet’, or: ‘from a falsehood [one can imply] whatever [he likes]’. Look at the truth table of the logical function: imply. False implies false equals true. Also False implies true equals true.

0 => 0 = 1
0 => 1 = 1
1 => 0 = 0
1 => 1 = 1

In the above Boolean equations, 0 represents false and 1 represents true.

Once we find ourselves in the wonderland of an alternative hypothetical reality, then we can imply whatever we want about this reality.

This is why I dislike speculating upon what a historical person might say if he were still alive. According to the imply function, ’twould seem to me, that he would say whatever one would like him to say.

Interestingly, Marxists also take a deterministic view of history. Whenever sufficient material causes prevail, then certain historical actions necessarily and deterministically follow. In Marxism, everything that happened in History had to happen.

gaedhal: “In Marxism, everything that happened in History had to happen. ”

In the philosophy of Democritus, too. Atomic “swerve” to allow for free will is an Epicurean innovation, afaik. Several classical authors reproach Epicurus for stealing Democritus’ ideas without attribution, and changing them for the worse. Free will may be the prime example of that. Yet if Marxism could be so neatly summed up as mere determinism, there’d be no way distinguish it from any other determinism. What sets Marxism apart seems to me to be an economic view of human history as deterministic class struggle. It doesn’t explain, and afaik, doesn’t even attempt to explain, the evolution of life on Earth, or do anything other than give reasons for certain sociological changes in human society. Hence its spectacular failure in the case of Lysenko. He was attempting to apply Marxist principles to biology, and it wasn’t designed for that.

From what I understand of “the swerve” it was posited to solve a problem. The primordial state of affairs was imagined to be a stream of atoms, or un-cut-able primitives of matter, all travelling at the same velocity, and in the same direction. (redundant as velocity is speed in a given direction). What we know from Newton, is that this stream of atoms would have continued in this way forever. To solve this problem, Epicurus hypothesised a “swerve”. One atom “elected” or “chose” to swerve, and this initiated the cascade of cause and effect that gave rise to the material Universe that we see about us.

gaedhal: “From what I understand of “the swerve” it was posited to solve a problem.”

I think a more pressing problem was how to preserve free will, and with it moral responsibility for one’s own actions, and Epicurus is widely credited with having introduced the free will/determinism antinomy. He passed off Democritus’ atomic idea as his own, and modified it to take care of that problem. I see this as one of the things Russell was referring to in that passage from his History I quoted previously:

https://www.unz.com/article/how-jewish-is-the-christian-god/#comment-7104281

“What is amiss, even in the best philosophy after Democritus, is an undue emphasis on man as compared with the universe.”

However, since almost all of Epicurus’ works were destroyed by Christians or otherwise lost, it’s not exactly clear how “swerve” was supposed to work in preserving free will. The implication would appear to be that we control the swerve through our will, and this makes what we intend actually come to pass.

I have Russell’s book in hardcopy. I also have it in audiobook form on Audible.

Yes, the Christians did their best to ensure that no Atomist works made it through from antiquity. Lucretius’s On the Nature of Things very nearly did not make it through from antiquity. The work was lost for centuries until rediscovered in the Renaissance. However, the more copies of an ancient work we have, the easier it is to reconstruct the Ancient text, and the manuscript tradition of On the Nature of Things is so poor that the text is very difficult to reconstruct, in places. We have thousands of manuscripts containing the mad scribblings of early Christians, their “New Testament”, and yet On the Nature of Things very nearly perished from the earth. A book with Resurrected Rabbis in it has an excellent manuscript tradition from Antiquity, and yet Dē Rērum Nātūrā exists only in one or two manuscripts. Similarly, we have palimpsests of Archimedean Physics, these writings on Physics being scraped off so as to create Christian prayer books.

I think that only 1% of Classical Latin literature and 10% of Classical Greek literature survived the Christian Age. That more Greek literature survived is due to the Muslims’ efforts in preserving Ancient Greek literature. The Koran says that the ink of scholars is more precious than the spilled blood of martyrs. No pro-intellectual statement such as this appears in the Christian compendium of madness known as the New Testament.

Well done! Of the 12 track finals and the marathon at the 2024 Olympics, you got the picture with 3 White men in it – 2 of them medallists.

In the 10 individual men’s running events, however, there were a total of 7 White medallists out of 40 medallists. The remaining 33 were Black or “coloured” – either current Africans or of recent African descent.

Of the 24 medal-winning runners in the 2 relays, 2 (both British) were White.

A few years ago – indeed, almost any time since the 1970s – there would have been fewer White finalists. The 3 (!) Ingebrigtsen brothers from Norway and a few other outliers stand out in a sea of black and brown faces.

Watch almost any top-class 5K, 10K or marathon and you will see a pack of Black runners with perhaps one or two White faces. The rest of the White runners will be following at a respectful distance.

The only reason white liberals care about the Palestinians is they always need a “cause.” They are always in search of “old scratch” he’s hiding under every bed, in every, closet, in ever attic / basement, around every corner. It is their religion.

The only reason Jews won’t leave the Palestinians alone is their hatred of anyone who is not a Jew you fucking hypocrite.

If Jesus was gay, then you should be worshipping at his alter, if you get my drift.