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Last Saturday, the founder of the Telegram messaging app was arrested as he got out of his private plane after landing at Le Bourget Airport. The French National Judicial Police are investigating Pavel Durov for “complicity” in such crimes as drug dealing, child pornography, money laundering, and fraud.

Credit Image: © La Nacion via ZUMA Press
Credit Image: © La Nacion via ZUMA Press

By failing to monitor nearly one billion Telegram users and refusing to let police read their messages, Mr. Durov is said to have committed the crime of permitting crime.

The French have four days – until the evening of Wednesday the 28th – to charge him, and if they do, they could hold him for as long as it takes to prepare their case.

He faces up to 20 years in prison if he is found guilty.

Heads of big social media companies have been asked to appear before legislative investigations, but his is the first arrest.

Credit Image: © Ting Shen/Xinhua via ZUMA Wire
Credit Image: © Ting Shen/Xinhua via ZUMA Wire

This is not an enforcement action under the recently passed European Digital Services Act, or DSA. As we will see, that act has the potential for tremendous mischief.

Pavel Durov, Russian by birth, is 39, worth $9 billion, does not drink coffee or alcohol, take drugs, or eat meat. He likes to post photos of himself bare-chested.

A couple once asked him to donate sperm so they could have a child, and he learned there is a shortage of “high quality donor material.” He met the need and now has more than 100 children. He says he is proud to have helped many struggling couples.

Mr. Durov was a math prodigy, and in 2006, when he was 21, he founded a social media site called Vkontakte – or VK – that became known as the Facebook of Russia.

In 2013, when anti-Russian Ukrainians started using VK to organize, the Russian authorities asked him to turn over user information. Instead, Mr. Durov cashed out and fled Russia.

That same year, he founded Telegram, which he advertises as both unmoderated and inaccessible to the authorities.

It is based in Dubai, where Mr. Durov has citizenship. He also has passports from Russia, St. Kitts, and France.

Mr. Durov explained in an interview with Tucker Carlson in April that Telegram has only 30 employees, almost all of them engineers.

He hires only the very best, through online coding contests open to anyone.

Telegram is lean – “Like a Navy Seal team,” he says.

Mr. Durov says he will never compromise user security, unlike other companies, which he says have decryption backdoors for the police.

In 2018, Russia tried to ban Telegram because it is so secure. Now, it is widely used in Russia and Ukraine, both by governments and by dissidents.

The New York Times loves censorship but has faint reservations: “Telegram’s light oversight over content on the platform has helped people living under authoritarian governments communicate, but it has also made the app a haven for harmful content.” The Times knows what’s “harmful.”

“[T]errorist organizations, drug sellers, weapons dealers and far-right extremist groups have used it.” There are apparently no far-left extremist groups.

For the Left, it a strike against Mr. Durov that Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov says that Moscow is now “ready to provide all necessary assistance and support.”

Credit Image: © Sergei Bulkin/TASS via ZUMA Press
Credit Image: © Sergei Bulkin/TASS via ZUMA Press

Edward Snowden warns that “The arrest of @Durov is an assault on the basic human rights of speech and association.”

Robert F. Kennedy says, “The need to protect free speech has never been more urgent.”

Chris Pavlovski, the CEO of the lightly censored video platform Rumble, announced that “I’ve just safely departed from Europe.”

Andrew Torba, who runs Gab, wrote, “I haven’t traveled outside the United States in six years” because “Gab has refused to work with a single foreign government when it comes to requests for user data or censorship of ‘hate speech.’ ”

Who’s happy with the French? Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Credit Image: © Iranian Supreme Leader’S Office via ZUMA Press Wire
Credit Image: © Iranian Supreme Leader’S Office via ZUMA Press Wire

“He has violated their governance (over the internet) . . . you can’t let anyone violate your governance.”

The Times and the ayatollah see eye to eye.

Catalina Goanta of Utrecht University is with the ayatollah, too.

“Freedom of speech is not absolute, especially when an online service apparently fails to comply with a wide spectrum of laws—drug trafficking, terrorist content, child sexual abuse material, intellectual property violations—in a large number of jurisdictions.”

The problem is not content moderation – Telegram hardly has the staff to do much of that – it’s whether Telegram can ignore police requests. It’s like the phone company telling the cops, “We don’t care about your judge’s order; you’re not tapping our lines.”

There probably is kiddie porn and fraud. The ISIS terrorists who killed 90 people at the Bataclan theater in Paris used Telegram.

Credit Image: © Adam Davy/PA Wire via ZUMA Press
Credit Image: © Adam Davy/PA Wire via ZUMA Press

I have a glum prediction. The French will let Mr. Durov go if he hands over encryption keys. If he refuses, they will lock him up until they get a guilty verdict. A man with a private plane and four passports is a flight risk. Today, we should find out what happens.

Part of the problem is that although Telegram is supposedly impenetrable to outsiders, Telegram itself can reportedly read messages. Unlike WhatsApp or Signal, which can’t read user messages, Telegram theoretically could rat out users.

My guess is that eventually the fully encrypted apps will be forced to give governments encryption keys. And, for Europeans, crime isn’t just drug-dealing and child porn. It’s speech. European regulations threaten anyone, anywhere whose speech is accessible from within Europe.

If prosecution fails, there is the recently enacted Digital Services Act, or DSA.

It is swathed in the language of censorship. It will “prevent illegal and harmful activities online and the spread of disinformation.” It will “protect consumers and their fundamental rights online.”

Worst of all, “the roles of users, platforms, and public authorities are rebalanced according to European values.”

European values are relentless globo-homo and crushing any opposition to the Great Replacement.

I won’t go into the jungle of DSA regulations.

The worst ones apply to what are called Very Large Online Platforms and Very Large Online Search Engines, of which there are 19.

Here are the expected big names, but also some surprises, such as Booking.com, Google Shopping, Pinterest, and the German shopping site Zalando. Telegram didn’t even have to be on this list.

These 19 must censor content, file endless, intrusive reports, publish algorithms, identify “potential harms” and “systemic risks” – whatever they are – and do whatever else the EU tells them.

They have already had to turn over thousands of documents, but so far only one has been formally investigated: X. Its crime was to have failed to track down and exterminate every bit of doubtful information posted after Hamas attacked Israel on October 7.

“EU turns up the heat on X over illegal content in wake of Israel-Hamas war.”

Note the date: October 12, 2023, just five days after the attack. Illegal content? Someone claimed President Biden was sending $8 billion to Israel. A video that claimed to be a Hamas attack was a clip from a video game.

There was a fake report that Israel had bombed Gaza’s St. Porphyrius Church.

X uses what it calls “community notes,” or corrections by users, to help flag doubtful information. The company noted that “there had been more than 50 million posts” in the two days after the Hamas attack and that, well, no, “community notes” hadn’t kept up.

No one can keep up with an event like that. I bet the New York Times posted “illegal content.” But under the DSA, Euro-snoops can set whatever standard they want for “misinformation” or “hate.” Violators can be fined up to 6 percent of annual revenue. Repeat violators can be fined 5 percent of revenue per day. In 20 days, that would be an entire year’s turnover.

The head Euro-snoop is Thierry Breton.

Credit Image: © Maxppp via ZUMA Press
Credit Image: © Maxppp via ZUMA Press

He is the guy behind the headline earlier this month: “EU warns Elon Musk ahead of Trump interview to keep hate speech off X.”

A foreigner tells an American billionaire and a former American president what they can talk about. Not so long ago that would have been grounds for declaring war.

Now, I’m sure our rulers are relived that foreign fanatics have the power to squeeze the life out of American companies that refuse to lick their boots. How handy that someone else is taking care of that pesky First Amendment!

(Republished from American Renaissance by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. I’m speechless …
    Seriously, words can be so …

    What are we going to do ?

    What do we have , if not the
    ability to speak ?

    Money, money, money… Money.

    Nobody seems to have enough ?

    • Troll: Gvaltar
    • Replies: @Ukraine Tiger
  2. Anonymous[293] • Disclaimer says:

    Elon Musk? You’re kidding me right?

    Elon Must is about as anti-establishment as Donald Trump is anti-jewish. All politics and the people who are paraded in the “mainstream” establishment sphere are all actors who all come from the same troupe. They are all two sides of the same coin. If they are on TV, in the news, allowed to have an app in the AppStore, pushed to the top in social media platforms or allowed in the news at all, you can almost be sure they or whatever is pushed and advertised is controlled in some say. Everything at this point is just theater for the masses.

    You have to REALLY dig for good info these days. This site is one such good source of information, but it’s getting harder and harder to find good, authentic sources of information outside of the massive kosher control grid that has been erected to protect their, (and many other establishment figures), narratives of lies.

    I’ve read a few Jared Taylor articles, but stopped reading from his website AR when I discovered that it’s impossible to discuss the jewish question there. In fact, you can get permanently banned from AR for just mentioning the word jew. I haven’t seen JT ever mention jewish influence in “the great replacement” (really it should be called “the great genocide” for that is what it is). If anyone studied this issue of mass non-White migration into White lands, you’d have to be INCREDIBLY stupid or naive to not notice just how instrumental jews are in instigating “the great replacement”.

    Jared Taylor and AR are simply a less-intense, more scaled down version of “controlled opposition”. They mention things that people who are privy to such issues as “the great replacement” want to hear, but never really mention the elephant in the room (organized jewry).

    I’d love to know where other UR readers get their news and information from, (other than of course, UR).

  3. Phibbs says:

    The Jews did bomb St. Porphyrius church. Why does Taylor always cover for the Jews? Why does he lie for them? Why does never mention the overwhelming role of the Jews in bringing about the end of white people and Western civilization? Is his wife a Jewess or something — or did he make a trip to Epstein Island and get caught in that Mossad trap?

    • Replies: @muh muh
    , @Anon
    , @Thomm
  4. Phibbs says:

    Taylor always defends the indefensible Jews.

  5. xyzxy says:

    I’m sure our rulers are relived that foreign fanatics have the power to squeeze the life out of American companies that refuse to lick their boots. How handy that someone else is taking care of that pesky First Amendment!

    Typical Taylor. Writes an article about the dangers of governmental sanctions on social media, and how important the First is to Americans, but then forgets to mention US action against TikTok, simply because Jews don’t like it.

    But then again, not sure how it is over at Amren now, but in the past if anyone said anything critical of the Tribe, Jared’s own censors would show them the door.

    [Does Taylor do this on purpose, or is he completely obtuse? Like the ditzy blonde in that old hair color commercial, I guess only his rabbi knows for sure…]

    The problem is not content moderation – Telegram hardly has the staff to do much of that – it’s whether Telegram can ignore police requests.

    As TikTok demonstrates, when it comes to Jewish interests, it is completely about content moderation, i.e., censorship.

    However Taylor is correct when he points out that no government is going to allow what they call seditious speech on a social media, or allow the platform to ignore law enforcement requests. And at the end of the day, when it comes to ‘illegal’ behavior, they can always resurrect the old Soviet ‘show me the man…’ theory of jurisprudence.

  6. There was a fake report that Israel had bombed Gaza’s St. Porphyrius Church.

    On 19 October 2023, part of the Church of Saint Porphyrius, a Greek Orthodox church in Gaza City, in the Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories, was damaged during an Israeli aistrike, killing at least 18 Palestinian civilians during the 2023 Israel–Hamas war. Over 450 Christian and Muslim Palestinian residents of the Gaza Strip had been sheltering there.[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Saint_Porphyrius_airstrike

    Because the source is Wikipedia the reality of the event must have been so uncontroversial that even they could not suppress it.

    • Replies: @N. Joseph Potts
  7. muh muh says:
    @Phibbs

    The Jews did bomb St. Porphyrius church.

    Indeed, they did.

    Like Jews, Taylor wants us to think the building struck was not part of the church.

    He’s a useful idiot.

  8. Is Taylor allowed on X?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  9. Capybara says:

    If companies want to operate anywhere, they are expect to comply to local rules. If they are so adamant in protecting free speech, they should expect consequences when effectively trying to act like a parallel state. It’s like renting a bunker and locking it off themselves while someone runs a child pornography server, and pretend to have nothing to do with it while refusing to give the keys to police.

    There is no “universal” right to anything whatsoever, just different countries with distinct peoples and demands. I expect the French (or any people whose countries block sites, for any reason) to have broad discussions about it, but that’s their problem, not Durov’s, or an American problem by the way. There are a lot of supposed “anti-imperialists” who want the American 1st Amendment shoved down everyone’s throats if some of their ilk don’t get their way. But it’s not a divine decree, just the American approach to reality, which is different anywhere else.

    • Troll: Sharonbaron
    • Replies: @Sollipsist
  10. Solutions says:

    Andrew Torba, who runs Gab, wrote, “I haven’t traveled outside the United States in six years” because “Gab has refused to work with a single foreign government when it comes to requests for user data or censorship of ‘hate speech.’ ”

    Got to love that statement, in his mind the US being the last bastion of free speech.

    Why did Durov travel to Paris? As if he of all people was blissfully unaware of the EU’s free speech stance regarding his platform. Was it to appear on the cover of a glossy magazine, or is this all more theatre for the great unwashed to continue their belief that there are still such things as bullet proof free speech platforms such as Telegram championed by our anti hero Pavel.

  11. Anonymous[366] • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    Is Taylor allowed on X?

    I think the only reason Ron allows him to post here on Unz is so he’ll get a tag-team verbal flogging over his kosher white nationalism.

  12. Wokechoke says:

    Oh no poor billionaire mogul. Oh noessss.

    • Replies: @Rich23
  13. Nobody has done more to bring racial consciousness to the American nation than Jared Taylor. Once you guys have done half of what he’s done, then throw stones.

    • Replies: @Justrambling
  14. @Capybara

    You have an arguable point, but it is entirely within the capabilities of any country to block specific Internet services. France (i.e., the EU) realizes that this would be an extremely unpopular move, encouraging existing criticisms of increasingly becoming like “bad nations.” Plus, unlike say China, they lack the human capital to successfully replace these services with something comparable of their own.

  15. SafeNow says:

    Telegram is lean, like a Navy SEALS team

    In the movie Navy Seals, a team of Seals – – amazing men! – – is preparing to parachute out of a plane to perform a mission. Charley Sheen gives them their final order: “Be careful out there.” One of the Seals quips: “If I were careful, I’d be in The Coast Guard.” The Seal is pointing out that with lean missions comes risk. The Seal team necessarily must be lean. Telegram is totally different: It does not have to sacrifice the redundancy, surveillance, and care that would reduce risk. If telegram had assigned numerous extra people to those tasks, that would look very good at their trial. We live in a world in which, unfortunately, one must constantly be thinking “What would look good at my trial?” For example, if accosted by an aggressor, do not put your fists up. Rather, arms out, with palms up.. When you are prosecuted, palms video or witness evidence will be a very good thing. In fact, they might not bother to prosecute you in the first place.

    • Agree: Franz
  16. anon[211] • Disclaimer says:

    Does it serve the interests of the Zionists? No. Then think of doing something or monitor .Does it hurt interest of the Zionists? Yes.Then start lawsuits,kidnapping,extradition, indicting .

    What about Pegasus ? Not accused but found to have helped tortuerers,dictators,drug peddlers, and drug lords .

    No levae it alone .

    Now where does freedom of speech stand ? How does that concern stack up against the goings-on?

  17. Duggle says:

    There may well be some sort of kabuki performance in which Musk is portrayed as an enemy and target of the Establishment, but the fact is that he’s one of them. He’s a billionaire who wants to make human brain implants the norm. He’s not a folk hero.

    • Agree: Anonymous44
  18. Franz says:

    Durov, like so many genius types, is bad at reading the room.

    He should be aware that the whole developed world is becoming Third World at an astonishing rate. Why else would former First World nations be importing so many Third Worlders?

    In shitehole countries the rule of baksheesh has never changed. Grease a few more palms, Durev. Buy the right set of political hacks in all the countries you travel in. Make sure they have good legal teams.

    Rich, famous, and cheap will never work.

    • Replies: @loren
  19. It’s actually going to be fun becoming a dissident in countries that supposedly support (((free speech))). New and creative ways of noticing jewish evil will need to be invented and spread.

  20. loren says:
    @Franz

    former First World nations be importing so many Third Worlders?

    BECAUSE OF JEWS.

    1965–JAVITS SELLER HART

    • Agree: Franz
  21. So what do we think now, that governments are honest? That they won’t install a backdoor through a Young Global Leader-developed asset such as Telegram (Durov seems to have been one, not that this is a requirement to be a tool)? Wow. We think they have to use some sort of 5-eyes/NATO/EU sneaky sneak to get what they want? Who is stopping them from just getting what they want anyway?

    Are you not understanding what is being said? Durov may as well be a plant. What is the benefit to them? You think a back door is up in the air when it was already BUILT IN. You think they are “trying” to get something they have and have already had! Same goes for the entire internet, including any “Dark Net”. I expected high IQs and I get stooges.

    Start using your noggins and learn how Full Spectrum Dominance works!

  22. anon[154] • Disclaimer says:

    “There was a fake report that Israel had bombed Gaza’s St. Porphyrius Church.”

    They not only really did it then, they just recently did it again: (https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/gaza-st-porphyrius-church-struck-again-israeli-missile-1234713879/)

  23. Dmitry Peskov says that Moscow is now “ready to provide all necessary assistance and support.”

    TO WHOM? Durov, or his persecutors?

  24. More nonsense from honorless Jew slave, Jared Taylor.

    Musk works for the military and for Jews, and engages in mass censorship of his platform in defense of both. So no, X will not be the main course.

  25. They won’t touch Musk – he’s just putting on a show for his sycophants. X has already been koshered by Ben Shapiro and the ADL, and DOES cooperate with U.S. government requests, both for user data and to censor inconvenient political content ALL THE TIME.

    The loss of Telegram will be a real loss, especially for those of us who want information about the world outside the US borders and don’t want to waste time trying to get it from a Jewish-owned or controlled U.S. media outlets. I guarantee that the biggest push for this arrest is from Jew media barons and the government.

  26. Jim Jatras says: • Website

    “There was a fake report that Israel had bombed Gaza’s St. Porphyrius Church.”

    Ummm … am I missing something? The Israelis DID bomb St. Porphyrios Orthodox Church.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/former-us-rep-amash-says-relatives-killed-gaza-church-air-strike-2023-10-20/

    • Replies: @Hulkamania
  27. @xyzxy

    Taylor may be sincere in his stance on Jewish influence or he may just avoid the topic for strategic reasons. In either case, without his kosher approach to politics his TV and radio appearances from the early 90s up to 2016 would never have happened. Of course, his silence on the JQ no longer works since he’s banned from the big platforms and can’t get on TV for love nor money now, but the man is in his 70s now. He’s been a brilliant advocate for his people and has probably awakened more hwites than the rest of the dissident sphere put together.

    Jared basically looked at the likes of William Pierce in the 80s, understood why he was radioactive to conservatives and repackaged the core ideas in a way that they could be exposed to normie republicans. The man’s a hero.

  28. Durov: Move away peasant, private jet incoming.

    French authorities: F U, on your knees!

    Durov is clearly not that intelligent. What kind of idiot steps foot in a EU country in light of what’s going on today with Russia?

    Why did he go there anyway? Ride bicycles with his woman, eat croissants and buy French luxury goods? You can do all of that outside of France. Did he really think his money and/or multiple passports would protect him? The fact that he’s a French citizen actually makes it worse.

    Unless a Carlos Ghosn stye escape is being planned, he will get the Meng Wanzhou treatment — times 100. At least, he can become fluent in French and learn how to make croissants.

    • Agree: bike-anarkist
    • Replies: @Hulkamania
  29. Thomm says:
    @Phibbs

    Why does never mention the overwhelming role of the Jews in bringing about the end of white people and Western civilization?

    Nah, he just took the payoff offer. Steve Sailer took the same offer more recently.

    Why are people still surprised by the ((true purpose)) of this website?

    • Agree: Agnonimus
    • Replies: @Agnonimus
  30. ghali says:

    There is hardly any difference between all of them. X (Musk) moved on after he crawled to the Jew with a Yarmulke on his head. In fact, he was told, “it is not crawling without a Yarmulke”. Musk promised to crawl more if he is asked to do so. Telegram isn’t different. Like X and Meta, Telegram is a Zionist propaganda outlet that happened to be used by Russia in its war in Ukraine. Unlike Musk and Zuckerberg, Durov is happy to advertise himself as a “model”, just like all the females who like to show what they got. All these online media outlets are serving Zionism’s organised violence against defenceless people. It isn’t coincidence that Durov is a quad citizens.

  31. @Anonymous

    Precisely.

    Epstein buddy Elon Musk is a DARPA front. Not any different than Gates, Jobs, Page/Brin, Zuckerberg, Bezos and the rest of the gang.

    About the great (White) replacement/genocide, it’s baffling how they accelerated it since the biggest wealth transfer in history (covered up by the so-called Covid).

    • Agree: bike-anarkist
  32. X or whatever gay name it has is anything but a free speech platform, as many TUR readers with suspended accounts and permanent shadowbans can attest. Nothing non-kosher you post there will ever be seen there by anyone, anywhere.

    Unless, of course, you pay for the blue check – to be verified by third party contractors in Israel, as it happens – in which case your posts will get the same promotion and visibility as the 80 IQ e-thots and YouTube “stars.”

    • Replies: @Lurker
  33. It (Telegram, my insertion) is based in Dubai, where Mr. Durov has citizenship.

    Incredible. How did Mr. Durov & Telegram pull that off? The UAE bans its own citizens and residents from publicly criticizing Israel or holding demonstrations expressing support for Palestine. The country doesn’t even allow social media like WhatsApp and Skype “ The UAE’s ISPs, Etisalat and du, ban pornography and politically sensitive material” (my bolding).

  34. @Goldgettin

    I have been dumped by X several times, the last for saying Musk deserved a punch on the nose for his comments on Venezuela. Lame stuff.
    Nevertheless, X is needed. Not by me because I get in too much trouble but because the content is there for people to use constructively. Once again, not by me.
    I find the best thing to do is keep my mouth relatively shut and listen to those that have the stomach to sift through what is out there, on all platforms, all commentors and analysts and hope they can deliver some insightful thoughts via their own podcasts etc. Save me the trouble.
    I don’t need to be bombarded from all directions with irrelevant diatribe as I believe I have a sound understanding of what is happening. Just give me the headlines, I can figure it out for myself when broaching the subjects of which I am versed.
    That is why I am here or watching Judge Andrew Napolitano, Alex Christoforou and a few others.

  35. @Avi Marranazo

    Nobody has done more to bring racial consciousness to the American nation than Jared Taylor.

    Sure, divisive consciousness, but above all, to cover up elite Jewish power’s neutralizing of American sovereignty and to render it totally subservient to Jewish interests. They have us firmly by the balls and are not in the least interested in the well-being and advancement of the goyim. I for one would like to see his tax returns.

    • Agree: Anonymous44
  36. Telegram Is the Appetizer
    The main course will be X.

    This looks like another episode of the Omnipotent Jew, aided by the Anglo-US/western powers, which of course are invincible.

    Actually, Mr Taylor, what will happen is that zio-US power will be rolled up. This may result in the termination of USA (as presently configured) as it has become a global menace, maybe breaking into States or local combination thereof. This will benefit ordinary Americans and the world in general; CIA/”military” not so much.

    Morning news (on telegram) showed civilians spontaneously mass-evacuating Pokrovsk as AFRF advance a further step in their victory in Ukraine. The Jewish American coup, which has produced the usual bloodbath, may not have long to go.
    Second, spontaneous mass protests in Izmir demanding that USS Wasp leave the port. Sailors/USMC have been assaulted . “Yanqui Go Home” chanted in streets. Turkiye is a NAZO member and you people are as welcome as a pork chop in a synagogue.

    Oh and btw, another disappointment for your greatest ally.

    🇵🇸🇮🇱Israel’s Channel 12 reported that Hamas has recently recruited 3,000 new fighters and deployed them in the northern Gaza Strip. Given Israel’s ongoing genocide, Hamas will not have problems recruiting new fighters for a long time..

    • Replies: @Tiptoethrutulips
  37. I didn’t bother reading this article because the premise is so outlandish.

    Elon Musk (Lone Skum) is not on your side. He does not stand for free speech. He has already appointed a known female satanist as his successor. He likes to appear in costume as a “soldier of Satan.” He is likely a crypto-Jew. He needs your complicity to mock you and you fell for his trap.

    • Agree: FreQuenSee
  38. peterAUS says:

    ….The French will let Mr. Durov go if he hands over encryption keys. ….

    Too lazy to read:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End-to-end_encryption
    Not that majority of “content” consumers on the “alternative” will notice. Or care about.

    • Replies: @anon
  39. Peskov asked in an interview, when questioned about the arrest of Durov, if CEOs of car manufacturers should be arrested because terrorists use cars.

    • Replies: @SZ
  40. anon[224] • Disclaimer says:

    I have yet to see a single authoritative source for the supposed end-to-end encryption of Telegram.

    AFAIK, all content (except private messages) is unencrypted. The fact that you can pull up any telegram channel and read its content should drive that home for you. The Police can do the same.

    What authorities do not have access to is metadata that would locate and (likely) identify the producer.

    Also note that Telegram (just like “resistance” websites using Google javascript that pings home to CA everytime you visit their sites) is hosted on (cloud) servers in various countries. It is entirely possible Telegram (in portions) runs on AWS. There is so little information about it and that is not a good thing.

  41. anon[224] • Disclaimer says:
    @peterAUS

    Telegram does not provide end-to-end encryption for anything. End to end requires that the service provider is merely connecting and shuffling encrypted data, to which they do not have the keys.

    Telegram holds the encryption key for this “end-to-end”. So that is called MITM.

    Just like others have pointed out (keywords “DARPA”, UAE …) this service and its story have too many holes and questionable circumstances.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  42. Telegram will remain intact because it is Russian
    It serves Russians
    Europeans may lose access but Telegram will not change

  43. If you look at who funded VKontakte and pushed Durov out it was his Co-investors – Mirashvili and Leviev both billionaire Israelis.

  44. @Arthur MacBride

    Hello, my dear Mr. MacBride,

    The omnipotent Jew, indeed….I continually find new sources of information about how they have used the pillars of once-great American/Western society to undermine all of Europa.

    Explaining to others how and why this came about is rather difficult, but you and other readers may be interested in the short/concise article linked below from Dr. Edward Fields in 1957; edited and republished in 1970 – a few highlights:

    In March of 1968, Lyndon Johnson’s “Commission on Civil Disorder” issued their report on the bloody and destructive negro riots which swept many of our major cities…The full time staff director of the Commission was the Jew David Ginsburg. With a $1 million dollar budget, and 200 employees Ginsburg spent 7 months ‘investigating’ the riots. The final report, which he personally drafted found:

    “Of the filth, crime and slums in which the Negro lives. White institutions created it, White institutions maintain it, and White society condones it-White racism is essentially responsible for the explosive mixture which has been accumulating in our cities since the end of World War II.”

    Jew lawyers are also pushing for integration of White suburbs. A Harvard trained lawyer named Roger N. Beilenson heads “Westchester Residential Opportunities, Inc.” – They purchase homes in fine White neighborhoods for $16, – 000 up to $50,000 and then re-sell them to Blacks. Beilenson was a former housing director for the Urban League.

    “The New York Times” of Sept. 19, 1966, really let the cat out of the bag when it admitted: “The Jewish community has long been the financial backbone of the civil rights movement. . . No special commission on race is needed to arouse Jewish support for civil rights activity in the South. . Jewish support for civil rights is still high.”

    Jewish publications are filled with countless articles about Jews raising money for militant negro causes. The Emma Lazarus Federation in New York City raised thousands of raised thousands of dollars for Martin Luther King’s now infamous Selma, Alabama march.

    Each year Mrs. Edward M. Warburg, wife of the multi-millionaire international Jewish banker, raises millions for the United Negro College Fund.

    The most sensational and publicized fund raising dinner was held by wealthy Leonard Bernstein in his plush Park Avenue apartment for the 21 Black Panthers on trial for bombings in New York City.
    …Mrs. Bernstein said later to the press: “This was not a frivolous party, but a chance for all of us to hear what’s happening to them….
    The end.

    In Texas, it is now a public school policy to place American-born (fluent, aka White) children into ESL classes (English as a Second Language) in order to “help” the immigrant or foreign-born students with fluency, and I personally know a family who has a child stuck in this situation. In reality, White American children have been suffering for decades due to Jewish machinations in integration and education in our societies.

    I’m proud of the Irish populace for taking a stance in Ireland against mass immigration/integration efforts therein. Erin Go Bragh! (But save a spot for me!)

    https://archive.org/stream/DocumentedProofJewsBehindRaceMixing1970/1970%20-%20Jews%20Behind%20Race%20Mixing%20-%20Dr%20E%20R%20Fields_djvu.txt

  45. Telegram Is the Appetizer The main course will be X.

    For once I agree with paid-off Mossad asset Taylor, because I too think that eventually Twitter-X will be brought down. There’s just too much Jew-aware-stuff going on there and I am actually surprized that the Jews have allowed it to get this out of hand. Example: Brandon Taylor Moore: “Jewish people are conspiring to kill humanity, and control what’s left. No hyperbole intended. The source of their Satanic ideologies can be found in the thread below.”

    I can’t link to the original tweet because the Jews already took down Twitter-X here in Brazil a few days ago, and outlawed VPNs as well (USD 9,000 fine per day if you use VPN to access the site). So now I’m going through X-withdrawl symptoms, because I did use that platform a lot (sigh). For those who want to know more about how the Jews took down X in Brazil, read this article (exerpts below):

    FBI, Soros, And Secret Police In Vast Censorship Conspiracy In Brazil
    Months-long investigation reveals global effort to counter populism in violation of the Latin American nation’s constitution
    David Agape

    Pedro Abramovay [a Jew, obviously], a Brazilian who serves as Director for Latin America at the Open Society Foundations, is an outspoken advocate of the Fake News Bill and a vehement critic of Bolsonaro. Abramovay champions the idea of amplifying the TSE’s powers, specifically to address the issue of “disinformation” more effectively.

    Soros is the largest sponsor of pro-censorship organizations in Brazil. In 2020, Open Society distributed around US$22 million to Brazilian organizations, many of whom have demanded censorship by social media platforms. Many of the organizations funded by Soros in Brazil support censorship, including the Fundação Getulio Vargas and First Look Institute.
    https://www.public.news/p/fbi-soros-and-secret-police-in-vast

    For those who want to know more about how the whole operation of the takedown of Twitter-X in Brazil, take a look at Twitter Files Brazil, which exposes the Brazilian government’s extensive online censorship practices, particularly during elections, by revealing internal communications between Twitter executives and Brazilian authorities.

    Brazil’s Twitter Files: Independent Revelations on Online Censorship.

    Welcome to TwitterFilesBrazil.com, your dedicated portal to unraveling the complex web of social media censorship, with a particular focus on the Brazilian electoral period.
    https://www.twitterfilesbrazil.com/

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
  46. Jared Taylor is probably not allowed on Twitter because he sued Twitter.

  47. @Tiptoethrutulips

    Can you provide citations for Texas putting native-born native-English-speaking kids into ESL classes? I wouldn’t put it past them, just need evidence.

    Also, your friend’s kids likely aren’t legitimately “sstuck” in that situation. The parents should cut expenses and/or sell whatever is needed to leave that school district and perhaps that state.

    Why can’t they leave?

    Are they spending money on vices and luxuries, like most Americans who say they “can’t afford” to move?

    They’ll need to stop all spending on these categories, and more, before they can say they’re “stuck” and can’t afford to move someplace with better schools / different policies:

    Dining out

    Alcohol
    Tobacco
    Marijuana
    Overpriced espresso

    College and pro sports tickets and gear and subscriptions

    Television or streaming video “service”

    New vehicles rather than used

    Lottery tickets / other gambling

    Subsidizing kids to live in a dorm or apartment rather than live at home for the first year or two of a nearby state college to cut costs

    Even for Americans of limited income and resources, there is usually not a valid excuse for consigning one’s child to such a fate — or to a dangerous, violent, oversexed, or intimidating savage school. Parents may need to make sacrifices more than they are willing to make.

    • Replies: @Tiptoethrutulips
  48. Rosenfool says:

    “European values”= boot licking the us empire

  49. “We support free speech… as long as we are able to review and censor any content we deem objectionable.” Well, that’s a tidy little arrangement.

  50. Rich23 says:
    @Wokechoke

    Exactly.
    Beleaguered billionaire(s)

    Jesus H Christ

  51. B man says:

    Good grief:

    couple once asked him to donate sperm so they could have a child, and he learned there is a shortage of “high quality donor material.” He met the need and now has more than 100 children. He says he is proud to have helped many struggling couples.

    • Replies: @Rich23
  52. @Tiptoethrutulips

    Thank you, dear Tiptoes; always lovely to hear from you.
    The material you send is both unfamiliar yet unsurprising to me. The point we in the west are now getting to is — What are you going to do about it ?
    There is perhaps a still viable Secessionist or even Independence movement in Texas ? maybe this is the answer if it can be trusted … but perhaps we have gone past even these things now and we have nothing left except to warn people of the consequences of their own doing which is ever more quickly overtaking them, though they may not think so.

    There is online discussion abt the Great Satan (excuse me) supplying long-range missiles to Ukraine in yet another kike doubling down. The timing has to coincide with GS’s forthcoming elections. They cannot imagine that explosives will ever land on their own heads because USA dishes it out but never takes it. This is a rule, right ?
    But for some proxies this has just happened and it’s safe to say that they didn’t expect it. It’s the latest and reputedly biggest mass kill in JewishUS War Ukraine. There are not many sympathisers, quite the opposite and even more so if the hit were on USA …

    Good News!

    In addition to a large number of Ukrainian Armed Forces servicemen, several foreign instructors from Sweden (we therefore assume that they were homosexuals) were killed during the missile strike on the communications training center in Poltava.

    This is written by Britta Ellwanger, a foreign volunteer working in the interests of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and studying with the deceased instructor at one of the Swedish universities.

    Let us recall that it was Sweden that planned to supply the Ukrainian Armed Forces with two ASC 890 AWACS aircraft, the training of whose personnel corresponds to the profile of the training center.

    The missile strike in Poltava has taken on new colours and important members of the Western repressive-homosexual apparatus have been liberated from their earthly body and sent to be judged by God for their crimes.

    Personally I have become interested in moving to Russia.

    • Replies: @Tiptoethrutulips
  53. Agent76 says:

    October 25, 2018 Facebook Censorship of Alternative Media “Just the Beginning,” Says Top Neocon

    This October, Facebook and Twitter deleted the accounts of hundreds of users, including many alternative media outlets maintained by American users. Among those wiped out in the coordinated purge were popular sites that scrutinized police brutality and U.S. interventionism, like The Free Thought Project, Anti-Media, and Cop Block, along with the pages of journalists like Rachel Blevins.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/10/24/facebook-censorship-of-alternative-media-just-the-beginning-warns-top-neocon-insider/

    May 24, 2021 Facebook Whistleblowers LEAK DOCS

    Detailing Effort to Secretly Censor Vax Concerns on Global Scale

    Video Link

    Feb 24, 2021 Yes, Big Tech is Censoring Speech: Now What?

    Big technology companies like Google, Twitter, and Facebook have come under scrutiny for the ways they are—and are not—controlling speech on their platforms.


    Video Link

  54. Agnonimus says:
    @Anonymous

    All politics and the people who are paraded in the “mainstream” establishment sphere are all actors who all come from the same troupe. They are all two sides of the same coin. If they are on TV, in the news, allowed to have an app in the AppStore, pushed to the top in social media platforms or allowed in the news at all, you can almost be sure they or whatever is pushed and advertised is controlled in some say. Everything at this point is just theater for the masses.

    You have to REALLY dig for good info these days. This site is one such good source of information, but it’s getting harder and harder to find good, authentic sources of information outside of the massive kosher control grid that has been erected to protect their, (and many other establishment figures), narratives of lies.

    Yes you know it

  55. Agnonimus says:
    @Thomm

    Sailer is hilarious because he wrote decades of non-flattering articles about other “races” since this is HBD science stats of course…

    “Racist” as hell stuff

    When mentioned in 2024, it immediately started to get scrubbed off the net.

    HMMMMMMMMMM…

    Pathetic tbh

  56. dogismyth says:

    The People can save him, and only The People.

    The People can save our country, and only The People.

    The People can end this political warfare against the people, and only The People.

    Do you know how to shut down a corrupt government? Its easy.

    Stop participating in their system, and keep a watchful eye always for Our People.

    What we tolerate is what we deserve.

    • Agree: bike-anarkist
  57. Mefobills says:

    Jared Taylor is all over the place. Why? It appears he never developed a central operating philosophy, a core way of looking at the world. This is why he avoids the Jew and other deformed “creditors,” and their privateering attempts at taking over the world.

    The core philosophy is debt/credit. The ratio should always null to zero, and not with an infinite time horizon.

    You are born with creditor debtor instincts. A mother has credited her child with life, and child pays back his debts with goo goo sounds, and being cute, which mother accepts. (Unless she is a freak mother with post partum depression, then the father needs to step in.)

    Anybody at any time can run up to you and claim you owe them. (Yes, Jews are the worst offenders.) Creditor is attempting to insert a debt hook into your mouth. Then creditor will want to extract two or three times the amount of their claim. Credits and debts have to be constantly balanced, especially when debts cannot be paid.

    The private bank scam, say for a mortgage, is you voluntarily indebting yourself, and then banker takes 2 or 3X original principle in interest. If there is more than a doubling it is usury -a mortal sin. Or, at least usury used to be a mortal sin in the past, until usury was erased from conscious and religion. The creditors in history fought back and won, which is why we in the west are on the wrong team. The voluntary bit for private banking indebtedness is satanic, because you have to agree to becoming a host.

    Below comment is Jared throwing shade at Ayatollah Ali Khamenei

    “He has violated their governance (over the internet) . . . you can’t let anyone violate your governance.”

    Khamenei is right, the King does not let anyone violate their governance. It has to be a god-king though, working for the logos and general welfare. A king subordinated to finance creditors in London (like King George) is a perversion. Winston Churchill, subordinated to creditors like the Focus group, is a perversion. Khamenei, if he steps outside of his role of ruling by divine right, is to be removed from power before he does harm.

    The role of a god King is to balance debt polarized civilizations. The divine right of the god-king is to erase debts, redistribute land, and decapitate Oligarchy. Churchill didn’t decapitate Oligarchy, they instead got their claws into him, and then Churchill pushed for war. There are no natural balancing mechanisms in Political Economy, as perverse libertarians and neo-liberals like to claim. The god king must always step in, and pull the levers of power.

    If “creditor narratives” take root as free speech, then the King is obligated to respond with counter narratives and power. Creditor narratives usually include guilt aspersions – you are a whitey and perpetually guilty. Negroes are your master. Allow in immigrants to replace you – please die and stop reproducing to assuage your guilt. Or, guilt is used to make sure you always pay your debts.

    There is never any sin nature or guilt ascribed to the predatory creditor class. King Jesus is for making you rich, not for identifying the sin nature of debt. In original Christianity, Jesus was going after the sick Pharisee creditors, who had overturned the jubilee. Pharisees had their own debtors, who signed documents which meant the Jubilee was not relevant. Pharisees were money sick, they were sociopaths.

    Kvetching from the west will reach a fever pitch! We need to control the narrative organs for OUR Oligarchy. And if a god king wants to control narratives for his nation’s general welfare, for their economic justice, why we are against that too!

    See – how Jared cannot deconvolute god kings from privateering oligarchs. They were made equal in Jared’s imagination.

    Western narrative: We cannot have another Hitler!, who suppresses Jewish speech, and releases debts. We cannot have a jurist like Carl Schmidt, who looks out for the general welfare. Instead we need a Jewish Kritarchy, rule by the worst sort of judges who are in service to their creditor over-lords. We must have an oligarchy led democracy, to make the world safe! (Safe for who?)

    Durov, Musk, Pavloski (Rumble) and others are going to have to report in to the King in authoritarian societies. Tough shit. The King cannot allow an Oligarchy to arise, it is his primary duty to decapitate these types. This Oligarchy includes Musk’s attempts at finance tech using X as a platform. Jack Ma was decapitated by King Xi for attempting the same fintech gambit on Baidu platform.

    The authoritarian and socialist governments, who are attempting to extract themselves from claws of the western finance capital debt system (Finance Oligarchy), are required to exercise sovereign control. The King’s role is very clear, you are not to allow an oligarchy arise, finance or otherwise. That especially means keeping a lid on Jewish activism, because Jews are the worst offenders of international creditor domination. Jews have a revolutionary spirit.

    I am a firm believer in national socialist logos type concentration camps, something like what China did with the Uighurs. (And yes, Hitler had good camps – but most normies are not willing to accept that due to their brainwashing.) People were put into camps to become disabused of false narratives rattling around in their empty noggin. Work sets you free and so does education. Chinese Uighurs were previously programmed with Takfiri Islam; programming funded with recycled petrodollars, and were taught to hate China. Is there a problem with radical Salafi Islam in China now? Nope. Concentration camps are the quickest way to overcome hostile “international” narratives implanted in the brains of simpleton normies (normies are about 60% of any population).

    The Oligarchic west was not able to use the Uighurs, create chaos, divide China into parts, and then attach international debts. Jurist Schmidt would approve.

    The way for Khamenei going forward, is to update Islam and include debt balancing laws. With regards to Iranian population undermined by the siren song of western clown world, is to use concentration camps when it becomes necessary. Putin was inactive when Ukrainians were being brainwashed. Camps are less necessary if you forbid western social media companies from operating on your soil. You don’t want bad ideas infecting your impressionable young people. You especially don’t want girls to become hoes, and then become divorced from their divine right of motherhood.

    A concentration camp run by a Western Oligarchy, will always be punitive, something like the Boer Camps. The Boer war was “City of London” wanting to grab African gold. Gold our god! Hence, Boer camps were a reflection their evil hearts.

    The West wants to control narrative organs to perpetuate finance oligarchy, to keep their population in debt servitude. The national socialists and god-kings want to prevent their populations from becoming brainwashed, and to prevent the worst types of humans from deploying usury gambits, including turning girls into hoes unfit for motherhood.

    The West is in population collapse, so this understanding of credit/debt dynamics is of existential importance.

  58. @loner feral cat

    My advice to Pavel is to spill the beans, walk away, then use his fortune to build an even better system, a system capable of taking revenge as well as providing secure free speech.

  59. “Telegram is lean – “Like a Navy Seal team,” he says.”

    30 people running an outfit worth billions of dollars. No wonder the unemployment is so high in the West!

  60. @xyzxy

    Any one that cannot be transparent, tell the truth, especially as an academic cannot be a hero.

    You must be a colleague of his.

  61. Rich23 says:
    @B man

    Yup.

    With that we’re supposed feel sympathy for this billionaire, megalomaniac.

  62. RVIDXR says:

    What can Europe do to Elon? As far as I can tell the worst they can do is block twitter the same way Brazil did. Also, if something was going to be done about twitter domestically it would’ve happened already, the biden admin has had 4 years to punish him & they didn’t. The worst thing that happened to him is his very public apology tour he did where he went to israel to suck up to netanyahu & went with ben shapiro to look at the pile of shoes.

    As long as Elon never steps foot in Europe he’ll probably be fine since twitter is pretty damn milquetoast as far as the content goes. Given there’s WEF members embedded in the company twitter more than likely cooperates with all the spy agencies & groups like the ADL by handing over data on everyone which is probably why it remains untouched despite all the media’s nonstop moaning about how its a haven for antisemites & racists.

  63. Rich23 says:
    @Mefobills

    Jack Ma was decapitated by King Xi for attempting the same fintech gambit on Baidu platform

    Outstanding articulation and that stuff about a King’s duty to the oligarchy.
    These guys seem to want serfdom under a monarchy. Let their titanic egos think through the implications later.

  64. At least Meng didn’t anything wrong in the countries Huawei did business in.

    Only in the U$A, where they weren’t getting “10% for the Big Guy”.

  65. Why are jews, as a people constantly obsessed with having everything “moderated”?
    Why do they think that jews, under no circumstances whatsoever should ever be criticized or critiqued by non jews?
    Isn’t this just one more example of jewish religious extremism where they think non jews are meant to sit down, shut up, and serve them?

    Why are they trying to force their ethnic cult extremist religion on the non jews?

    Isaiah 49:23 states:

    “And kings (non jews) shall be your nursing fathers, and their queens (non jews) your nursing mothers: they shall bow down to you with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of your feet;

  66. @Mefobills

    This comment deserves a Gold Border.

    Provocative, illuminating and complete with reasonable explanation.

    In the ’70’s in Canada there was a program for juvenile delinquents known as “Outward Bound”, which in hindsight is actually a “concentration camp” to reform juvies.
    Four of my friends were “sentenced” in court to the program.
    All four became better persons after their stint.

    • Thanks: Mefobills
    • Replies: @Rich23
    , @Lurker
  67. peterAUS says:
    @anon

    From lazy to outright lying. Try this:
    https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2024/08/25/telegram-is-not-really-an-encrypted-messaging-app/
    Default behaviour around. Next is personal attack. Go for it.

    The point resident morons keep missing is that Durov persecution is about sex trafficers, gun trafficers and political terrorists. Serious people who treat their OPSEC seriously. The DO use Telegram’s E2EE, among some other things. They have enough intelligence and self-discipline to enable E2EE and use it effectively. With those other things too. They are able to understand what “Secret chat” means. Word “secret”, FFS…….
    Morons chatting nonsense in group chat don’t use E2EE (too technical I guess for their brains to pass “default” option,and, more importantly, dopamine hits work better with group, bigger is better) but the persecution isn’t about them. Apparently. Publicly.

    The “child” keyword is emotional charge for sheeple management (works as charm, hands down) to get Durov to put extensive control and reporting about those masses who are in need for more control for what’s happing and will keep happening with accelerated pace sooner then most think.
    Bulk message access, filtering and reporting, NOT individual “bad guy” targetting.

    I know this is very hard to get for most here but with a bit of concentration and repetition some could manage. One day, perhaps.

    And the really funny thing is that most of the “alternative” is for that.

    Gets better, though. No matter what masses, we included, blather online the control WILL be put into place. Durov will buckle and deliver.
    End result: bad guys operating as before, no prob; “masses”, ah, well. Showcase of Hegelian dialectic by Managerial State.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  68. Anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:

    No coffee, tea, alcohol, or meat, but massive steroids

  69. @Jim Jatras

    What you’re missing is that Jared Taylor is a member of the Anglo slave race, so he has willingly devoted his life to serving Jews. Anglos like Taylor cannot feel fulfilled in life unless there is a Jewish boot on their necks while they’re eating crumbs of matzo from their masters’ seder table. It’s in their blood.

    • Agree: KnutHamsun
  70. @FreQuenSee

    It’s funny that he is a “going Galt” type anarcho-capitalist, but for some reason still trusted the French state enough to believe they would not politically persecute him. Oh well. He gets what he deserves for being both a moron and a traitor.

  71. SZ says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Throughout 2013 and 2014, ISIS purchased around thirteen hundred Toyota pickups via the authorised Toyota dealership in Erbil (Cihan Motors). The cars were legally shipped via Mersin port and delivered directly to Mosul through the Kurdish region of Iraq.
    No dealer or procurer was ever punished or charged for providing more than thousand new vehicles to ISIS.

    • Replies: @John Trout
  72. I use Te. It’s not a well-engineered app. For all the years I’ve been on it, it still remains buggy AF. Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth though, so its many nuisances can be overlooked. It looks and acts like something Slavs would build. This to say that Slavs are smarter than Americans, but they aren’t that smart and tend to overestimate their abilities. They are that way IRL as well.

    X is not the end goal for the censors. It’s already heavily censored, but the dust up over Musk playing role of right-wing oligarchical villain fits into the small Marvel space of the average soyjak so in America (fuck be upon it), it provides drama.

    Musk is really a walking CIA psy-op if there ever was one. The problem with X’s censors is that they are Americans, ergo, know very little about anything. They cannot effectively censor Brazilian politics because they don’t know that much about it. Hiring Brazilians to do the censoring means Musk’s staff starts ballooning out again. Recall that he trimmed the staff from a bloated 7500 to 1500, discovering what people like me have known for decades — corporations are job programs.

    Faceberg from what I last read was still using human censors who worked for third party companies. A lot of people believe AI is really intelligent, but it’s not. It will never be able to effectively censor smart people although it can make it harder.

    I used to enjoy reading tweets on the old Twitter anonymously. There were a few meatspace contacts who I kept up with on Twitter. When Musk took it over, it was turned into AOL. Walled garden. I love to hear folks blather about his commitment to free speech. If you look up people there now, you’ll get like an old tweet from months or years ago and some nagging pop up about joining the conversation. It’s a gateway to getting chipped and eventually having Musk be your payment processor. His words, not mine.

    I personally don’t believe Te is some uncompromised threat to the Westoids. I’ve no doubt NSA and other American intelligence agencies have thoroughly penetrated the platform, it’s just that Europeans aren’t really good at computer tech. Their contributions to computers over the decades has been pathetic and the enterprise has been pretty much American all the way. You will find nothing innovative coming out of Europe as far as software and hardware engineering goes.

  73. peterAUS says:
    @peterAUS

    For a couple of you who’ve read that link I posted, try Clive Robinson’s comment below. Phrases ““convenience” or “instant gratification”” and “human behaviour surveillance”. And the last paragraph in particular.
    I have an impression that organized crime involved in serious business of child and gun trafficking, let alone Ts, do belong to those “few”.
    Compare that to an average Brit protester recently.

    Which points to how dumb, but effective obviously, is this emotional packaging for bringing Durov to heel.

    The very people who will get shafted clamor for the shaft.
    Funny, actually.

  74. If the authorities aren’t able to read these encrypted messages on Telegram, then how do they know that criminals and terrorists are using it for the purposes they claim? Oh, because it’s obvious they do. But that is no proof. Surely they have to prove this in court, but how can they prove it if they can’t read the messages? Surely it’s not for Durov to decrypt the messages to prove his innocence. OK so some terrorists claim they used Telegram but that is then hearsay and not proof.

    It’s like a deaf man accusing you in court of having said something or a blind man claiming they saw something. How is this possible? Oh because you are a criminal and must have said and done something criminal but they can’t tell what.

    • Agree: John Trout
  75. @SZ

    The rule of thumb in logistics is it takes ten to support one on the pointy end. ISIS had over a hundred thousand menders in the field at one time. They had to be recruited, fed, trained and armed. Who had the kind of money needed to support a million man army for ten years?

  76. Megoy says:

    There was a video over a decade ago which has long since disappeared where a JEW was trying to JEW everyone by claiming “the ONLY way to stop “anti-Semitism” is to end the first amendment”!!!!! Fuck these lying, murdereing Jew criminals. When you slaughter, lie and fuck people over they will HATE you! Stop insulting us with your bullshit! Sledgehammers to face will be next if continue Jewing everyone. The goyim know. We don’t need to organize. Just start doing out where prominent Jews live and prepare to fight the war Jews have already waged against you. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/german-elites-call-firewall-prevent-conservative-governance-after-afd-election-win

  77. Agent76 says:

    AUGUST 25, 2024 Founder, CEO of Telegram arrested at French airport on multiple charges 

    The alleged offenses include: terrorism, narcotic supply, fraud, money laundering and receiving stolen goods. 

     https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-816149


    Aug 26, 2024 The Truth About Telegram And Pavel Durov’s Arrest!! Hint: (Encryption Is A Scam)
    
    Pavel Durov, the billionaire co-founder and CEO of messaging app Telegram was arrested at the Bourget airport outside of Paris on Saturday evening.
    

    Video Link

  78. Tweet from 2022:

    Baby Boomer Trump’s little spawn sonofabitch — Donald Trump Jr. — is right as rain that that EVIL and DEMONIC JEW YOEL ROTH and the HAUGHTY HINDU ASIAN INDIANS and the treasonous DIRTBAG RATS at the FBI and the CIA were using Twitter in VIOLENTLY ATTACKING and DESTROYING Democracy and the First Amendment and Freedom of Speech and the USA in general…

    But,

    Trump should have been firing every DEEP STATE RAT he could fire one minute after taking the oath of office of the presidency. SPOILS SYSTEM NOW! DAMMIT!

    Trump started screaming like a stupid Baby Boomer bastard about flooding the USA with legal immigration “in the largest numbers ever” and Trump was baking chocolate cakes with files in them to assist in his stupid JAILBREAK SCHEME.

    Trump pushed his Duck-Billed Platypus Platinum Plan as a lure to get the Black vote, but Trump was too much of a dope to explicitly make a play for the WHITE CORE CHRISTIAN AMERICAN vote.

    Trump stabbed his voter base and the European Christian ancestral core of the USA in the back by refusing to deport the upwards of 40 million illegal alien invaders currently occupying the USA.

    Trump was scheming and plotting with foreign elements to massively increase the visa foreigner hordes in the USA.

    Trump was a good little politician whore who did the bidding of the evil elements that want to swamp the Historic American Nation with foreigners and Third Worlders and non-Europeans.

    Trump 2024 is more and more of the lame stale coward horseshit from 2020 and plenty of White voters are going to tell Trump to get bent in November. Explicitly appeal to White voters as Whites or go jump in a lake!

    IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM NOW

    DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS NOW

    WHITE CORE CHRISTIAN AMERICA RISING

  79. ANON[322] • Disclaimer says:

    They are preparing the next plandemic or Scamdemic, call it what you want, the next manufactured crisis to further their totalitarian control over us and the planet.

    All the signs are going off now, the WHO crime syndicates director declaring “mpox” a DHEIC against the majority of his counsel, corrupt governments pretending they have “cases” in their countries, thanks to the use (of course) of the fraudulent PCR “test”.
    In New-York, fear porn alerts are sounded again and LOL, the return of “covid” the Frankenstein “virus” for all psyops.

    And now this from Trudeau Canada’s WEF controlled regime:

    The Pandemic Prevention and Preparedness Act
    https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/the-pandemic-prevention-and-preparedness-act

    To say NO (for Canadians): Send the automated emails below, you just have to enter your email and name or anonymous if you like and click send.

    https://interestofjustice.org/rejectcanadianbillc-293

    The series of recent arrests, starting by Pavel Durov to take control of Telegram which was instrumental in defeating the narrative of the covid criminals in the last 4 years.
    And the arrest of other prominent critics of those who are behind the death and control agenda (it includes the zionists and Israel).

    A mock trial in a German kangaroo court for the lawyer Dr Reiner Füllmich who created and completed the Court of Public Opinion (the Grand Jury) in 2022 with other lawyers, various experts and judges (a must see):

    grand-jury.net/

    “The Peoples’ Court of Public Opinion will serve as “a model legal proceeding to present to a jury all available evidence of COVID-19 Crimes Against Humanity to date against leaders, organizers, instigators and accomplices who aided, abetted or actively participated in the formulation and execution of a common plan for a pandemic.”

    Reiner Füllmich was kidnapped in Mexico and is now in a German jail since 10 months without any charges, it is a political trial and a revenge by the criminals who have been exposed in the Grand Jury .

    The Fuellmich Case
    https://icic.law
    truthsummit.substack.com/p/important-new-statement-from-reiner

    The current censorship, arrests, tyrannical decisions and illegal acts perpetrated by so many western regimes (including the genocide in Gaza which serves as a smokescreen for hidden events) in the last weeks and months shows that they are building up something that resembles very much the scenario they played in 2020.

    Remember, their goal is global dictatorship by 2030.

    IF WE LET THEM DO.

  80. peterAUS says:

    For you two (I guess no more…) who’ve read that article with comments below, you could take a look at this:
    https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2020/03/06/earn-it-is-an-attack-on-encryption/
    A couple of excerpts:

    ….Because the Department of Justice has largely failed in its mission to convince the public that tech firms should stop using end-to-end encryption…..the DoJ and backers in Congress have decided to leverage concern around the distribution of child pornography….

    ….The real goal here is to make it financially impossible for providers to deploy encryption…..

    BTW

    …The EARN IT Act was introduced to US Congress in 2020 but failed to pass before the end of the 116th Congress. It was reintroduced in the 117th Congress in 2022 where it also did not pass. A largely unchanged EARN IT Act was reintroduced in 2023 and has over twenty co-sponsors in the Senate….

    Enter “Durov episode”.

    @ANON[322]

    …they are building up something that resembles very much the scenario they played in 2020…

    Don’t say….

  81. Free speech is the enemy of the (((ruling class)))…..because with free speech, our truth destroys their LIES.

    The ruling class of the west is totally illegitimate. Western so called democracies are completely illegitimate plutocracies.

    The only way they can stay in power is via speech repression, political repression and severe censorship of political dissidents. Free speech on the major platforms are ALL that is needed to bring them down.

    The (((emperors))) have no clothes.

  82. @Anonymous

    Regarding sources of news:

    I live in the USA.

    I divide news into local, national, and international.

    For local, use local newspapers and websites. This is where you find out that your neighbor’s kid won the middle school basketball tournament. Who shot whom in my state? Just check the local paper or its website. No need to search too far here, because local news is not political.

    For national and international and all things geopolitical, your biggest enemy is the English language. 95% or more of Zionist and other nefarious elites efforts to misinform or influence you are centered on the English language media, because the bases of both ZioJewish and international financial power are centered primarily in English speaking countries like the USA and UK (France is also a big power center). Your browser’s auto-translate feature is your friend.

    An example: So what are some useful sources on the Israeli conflict? If you go to their media websites, you’ll notice that the Hebrew language side (written for Israeli Jews to read) is often much richer in information than the English language side. The first is written for Jews to read, and the second for Evangelicals, sycophants, and economic dependents (the goyim). Use the auto-translate.

    Who is their main state-level enemy? That would be Iran, so you’ll want pro-Iranian sources that transmit their voice. Iranian state media (presstv.ir), Hezbollah media (almanar.com.lb), The Cradle (thecradle. co), Al-Mayadeen (english.mayadeen.net), and Al-Akhbar (al-akbar.com) and Raialyoum.com. Always choose the arabic language and auto translate. If you choose English, Palestinian losses will be emphasized (to gain the sympathy of English speakers). If you choose the Arabic editions, you’ll instead hear and see the latest videos from Hezbollah and Hamas and the messages from their leaders. These are the things you are looking for to analyze.

    All of the above paragraph gives you an Iranian-aligned take. You can get a pro-Palestinian but non-Iran aligned take from Al Jazeera.net (again, read the Arabic side and auto-translate). This is a pro-NATO source but is widely followed in the Arabic and Islamic world. You can also try Asharq Al-Awsat for the Saudi view, again choosing the Arabic language side. Yeni Safak belongs to the Turkish ruling party AKP. Always avoid the English language editions.

    The above sources form a constellation for only one topic. You will assemble different constellations of sources for each topic which is of interest to you. Compare and contrast. Learn the interests of the states and entities that bankroll these sources. All of this takes time, so the sooner you begin, the better informed you will be.

    Always check comment sections on websites like unz.com, and avoid using search engines to find new sites. You can find Telegram channels this way also. Always share with your buddies on UNZ.

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  83. Anonymous[414] • Disclaimer says:
    @TimeTraveller

    Thank you very much for your informative comment!

    TLDR: Stay away from English based news sources, as they are all under the influence of the “kosher/jew” control grid.

    It’s a bit off topic, but can you recommend any good sources of news for financial/economic/stock market forecasting or analysis?

  84. @RadicalCenter

    Can you provide citations for Texas putting native-born native-English-speaking kids into ESL classes? I wouldn’t put it past them, just need evidence.

    Beyond the general code for the requirements of bilingual education or dual-language instruction, there is nothing, to my knowledge, about the implementation of the programs as they relate to other “non-qualified” students. There is much criteria left or open to individual schools regarding certain aspects of the implementation of the various special education programs.

    Texas Administrative Code, Chapter 89. Adaptations for Special Populations Subchapter
BB. Commissioner’s Rules Concerning State Plan for Educating Emergent Bilingual Students

    §89.1210.
    (a) Each school district required to offer a bilingual education or English as a second language (ESL) program shall provide each emergent bilingual student the opportunity to be enrolled in the required program at his or her grade level.

    Also, your friend’s kids likely aren’t legitimately “sstuck” in that situation.

    Unfortunately, the family I previously mentioned are recent acquaintances, therefore I was not at liberty to say/do what I would have offered to a family well known, which would be to march down to the school with a demand to remove an accelerated student from a program designed to meet the needs of children at a much lower level of reading comprehension. I did indicate that our schools, in general, are now catering to the lowest common denominator for the sake of “equity” and their child was a victim of this pervasive and deleterious circumstance, and a simple protest submitted to the principal would likely correct the situation.

    Parents may need to make sacrifices more than they are willing to make.

    This is often true, but that wasn’t my impression. It does seem there are still many people, particularly those recently moving into a multicultural paradise/hellscape, who trust our public school system to be advocates for ALL students. Some of us know better – I ran around like a mad woman getting my children off to private schools, charter schools, out-of-district schools in order to escape the consequences of Our Greatest Strength. Had our minorities been of the African persuasion, we would have recognized what is – burdened by reality, crime statistics, and the Bell Curve – and flown the coop based on what has been going on in Detroit, Baltimore, St. Louis, etc.

    All of American life has been reduced to running from the consequences of the alien influences in our once great nation, which actually was unburdened for awhile; we had a great run, though. We are leaderless and our youth/children have been targeted for decades, and most of us, myself included, didn’t see it coming, nor did we recognize it for what it truly was/is.

    • Thanks: Gvaltar
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  85. @Arthur MacBride

    There is perhaps a still viable Secessionist or even Independence movement in Texas ?

    There have been a few movements in American cities, municipalities, etc., to remove themselves from their current jurisdictions; thus far, nothing has been accomplished, to my knowledge, but the wee secessionists are still plugging away.

    Texas was independent in North America long ago, but the Civil War changed/nullified much of the constitutional rights of citizens and states. In Texas, the state constitution permits a division within the state, but not secession from the U.S. In any event, we all know – you don’t mess with the Feds.

    There is online discussion abt the Great Satan (excuse me) supplying long-range missiles to Ukraine in yet another kike doubling down.

    America is indeed managed/ruled by the Useful Idiots of the GreatSatanPeople, whomever they are, and we are powerless to stop this monstrosity. It’s ironic – legacy Americans now truly experience taxation without representation, and the Boston Tea Party was likely based on a false premise, just as that of WW1/WW2. It’s too bad Andrew Jackson didn’t get four terms…he may have been the last best president we’ve had. I’m sorry, I’m all over the place, but everywhere I look, I see the writing that’s been on the wall.

    USA dishes it out but never takes it. This is a rule, right ?

    It seems to be. We have a definite edge, geographically. We also have a highly armed populace (many acquired assault weapons when Sotero was elected; they sit in gun safes, unused) – for now anyway.

    Personally I have become interested in moving to Russia.

    I understand, but that’s where Poupon Marx is going….well, it’s a big country. We can see if Siberia will take him.

    Fair Elphin, cease to lament!
    Let no one be dissatisfied with his own,
    To despair will bring no advantage.
    No man sees what supports him…

  86. Rich23 says:
    @bike-anarkist

    Such an adventure, Outward Bound.

    I’m pretty sure a kid could volunteer for it and end up with the same result.

  87. Just more evidence…if you are White in the west:
    1. the government is your enemy…they are illegitimate
    2. the cops are your enemies….they are illegitimate
    3. the system is your enemy and wants to replace you, your ancestors, and your descendants

    This yellow vest French hero gets it….


    Video Link

  88. “[T]errorist organizations, drug sellers, weapons dealers and far-right extremist groups have used it.” There are apparently no far-left extremist groups.

    No. The point is, true conservatism, true identity politics for White people is ILLEGAL in Europe….and soon to be illegal in the Anglosphere.

    Our jewish overlords LOVE identity politics for jews, blacks, mestizos, asians, and everyone else, but White gentiles NEED NOT APPLY.

    There is only one way in Europe…that is the way of White genocide.

    There are no other options allowed for White people….sit down, shut up, and spread your butt cheeks.

    Your jewish masters demand it. Oh, by the way, it is the word of god that you just serve these jewish interests…so be a good christcuck and spread those cheeks even wider.

    Isaiah 49:23-25

    23 And kings shall be thy nursing fathers, and their queens thy nursing mothers: they shall bow down to thee with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet

  89. Our jewish overlords EVERY SINGLE DAY reveal how they can be defeated.

    Some technology that permits the masses to communicate freely and openly without being censored by anyone.

    With such a method or technology or platform, their power will end. That is the ONLY solution.

  90. Jugs says:

    Anyway, great comments as usual.
    Gonna go offline and play a little harp just for fun.
    There is a butterfield song D harp in A, if i find out shortly i will get back to you. He was the greatest and will stand the test of time long after i am gone.

  91. @Tiptoethrutulips

    Well, if Pooper is going that’s it out for me (lol).
    This is Ireland btw.
    Enoch Burke arrested for the 3rd time. You may readily appreciate that so dangerous a character as Enoch Burke required such a mass turnout of the heroic Gardai. Also that huge numbers of citizens turned out to applaud said Gardai for their brave actions.
    There is talk of raising a Public Contribution for the officers in question.
    And a National Commendation for their Commander.

    Police arrest Irish teacher who refuses to give up on his job or give in to ‘trans’ agenda

    https://yandex.ru/video/preview/2404891766773265167

    https://canadafreepress.com/article/family-of-enoch-burke-release-videos-of-latest-arrest-and-his-father-condemning-police-as-the-irish-teacher-is-jailed-over-trans-pupil-row

  92. @Tiptoethrutulips

    Thank you, dear Tiptoes, for the reminder of the Mabinogian and of Taliesin, that very prince of stories from the Celtic past, wonderful to recite.

    It is possible that there may be people here as crass as Pooper, though that seems difficult of imagining, that have never heard that wonderful tale, maybe some never even heard of it, such is the level of beastial depravity and ignorance in today’s world.
    Such creatures, bereft of anything of poetry, music or the arts as redeeming assets are truly in the pit described by Dante, over the dread entrance of which is inscribed for their instruction the awful motto “Abandon Hope, All Ye That Enter Here”.

    Your reference has cast light on a grim and troubling circumstance.
    https://sacred-texts.com/neu/celt/mab/mab32.htm

  93. @Mefobills

    Your comments on this site present insights unsurpassed on the net and thus treasured, and that’s over and above the great benefit you have provided by referring us to Michael-Hudson.com and then providing precious insights into what he says and explaining the what-and-why of certain things he doesn’t say.

    This paragraph

    The private bank scam, say for a mortgage, is you voluntarily indebting yourself, and then banker takes 2 or 3X original principle in interest. If there is more than a doubling it is usury -a mortal sin. Or, at least usury used to be a mortal sin in the past, until usury was erased from conscious and religion. The creditors in history fought back and won, which is why we in the west are on the wrong team. The voluntary bit for private banking indebtedness is satanic, because you have to agree to becoming a host.

    contains a sentence

    If there is more than a doubling it is usury -a mortal sin.

    with implication contrary to the accurate teachings of Prof. Hudson.

    He has consistently emphasized that any charge of interest no matter how small constitutes usury.

    Catholic Mass readings over the last three weekends provide proof the ancients recognized this as expressed in the Torah / Old Testament:

    https://bible.usccb.org/bible/readings/081724.cfm
    Ezekiel 18:8
    If a man is virtuous—if he does what is right and just,

    if he does not lend at interest nor exact usury

    https://bible.usccb.org/bible/readings/090124.cfm
    Psalm 15:5 The one who does justice will live in the presence of the Lord.
    Who lends not his money at usury (Lectionary:125 reading)
    Who lends not his money at interest (Hymn Book reading)

    This subtilty emphasized by Hudson is GIGANTIC because it makes clear what you have emphasized that both Rabbinical Judaism as founded by Hillel (drafter of the presbul clause requiring borrowers to waive their Mosaic Law rights to personal debt forgiveness after seven years) and the document known as the Talmud are in patent violation of the Torah / Old Testament.

    Catholic clergy all the way up to the Pope are in the dark about this and must be brought current by turning back 1,600 years of brainwashing by #JewU$urers and their complicit goy servants like Augustine of Hippo whom Hudson calls “the great villain of Christianity.”

    Mefobills, Yes you are a true super!

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  94. Mefobills says:
    @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    Ezekiel 18:8
    If a man is virtuous—if he does what is right and just,

    if he does not lend at interest nor exact usury

    Usury is a complex topic, and is situational dependent. I use the 2X doubling as a rule of thumb, which is easy for most people to comprehend.

    Usury is power relation, where one party, usually the creditor, is using their power position to extract life energy from the other party, usually a debtor.

    In ancient Venice, they gave an example for illustrating usury, no doubt born of experience. A woman is recently widowed due to her husband dying. The widow pledges her house as collateral to a creditor. The creditor knows the widow cannot pay in future, yet goes through with the loan anyway. The ultimate objective of creditor is take the home in future, essentially preying on the needs of the desperate widow. The Venetian leadership knew that the widow and her children would be ejected onto the streets, and then become wards of the state. So, Venetians would examine the debt/credit relations before they were signed. They did pre-crime analysis to prevent predatory creditors from abusing their power relationship over debtors.

    Venice had other advanced techniques to prevent usury, for example a fishing expedition; both creditor and the boat captain/0wner would share in risk, especially if there was no catch. The creditor could not take the debtors boat if things went bad. Sharing of risk, or deciding who gained what was a complex negotiation.

    Silvio Gesell identified the usury nature of gold as money. The gold as money holder would out wait the seller of perishable goods. Seller was on a time treadmill to discharge his wares, while gold holder would simply wait. Why? Because gold does not rust, and perishable goods do. The power relation was differential nature of gold vs goods, one rusts with time, the other doesn’t.

    Hudson is pretty hard on the west, saying it was a detour in history. He conveniently leaves out of account all of the many times the west attempted to right the ship. Deformed usurers will emerge in any population. It is up to the King to put a lid on that behavior. We especially cannot talk about Hitler, yet he did do the things necessary, especially erasure of farm debts, to then get the economy moving, to bring economic justice. Hudson cannot go there, but I can. Jewish international creditors did screw over Germany, with the attempt to take it for themselves, just as the creditor attempt in Venice to screw the widow over.

    You can track when Jewish civilization went bad, and I put it at Pre-Hillel and Post-Hillel. Jesus was responding to the already debt polarized Israel at the time he unrolled the scrolls and declared his mission to restore economic justice of the jubilee. Hudson, has been more vocal lately about the neo-cons, saying there is something wrong with them, so I applaud his moves in the direction of identifying Jews as super-creditors and usurers. Talmudic Judaism is far removed from the Torah, just as modern Christianity has forgotten its roots.

    I also maintain the Aiparu, the predatory merchant class, was maneuvering behind the scenes. They were operating in the Bronze age and cannot be left out of account. They were supercharged with usury gains by arbitraging of gold/silver exchange rate differences between east and west. This acted like a battery, making them fabulously wealth by simply trucking the metals across the trade routes, east to west, which they controlled, something like a Mafia family.

    Even Islam is a function of the Aiparu, as Mecca and Medina were entrepot cities on the routes. Mohammed was an Arab merchant, at a permanent disadvantage to Jew merchants, due to the usury gains of the Aiparu.

    Hudson is pretty hard on Catholics as well, especially St. Augustine. I give Catholics higher scores than Hudson would, especially Dominican monks while in Germany in upper middle ages.. They did a pretty good job with the guild system which was non usurious. The guilds even self policed themselves, which is why German civilization became high trust and high quality labor.

    Hudson has to self-censor to sell books, because normies are not really ready for the full truth. He wouldn’t get traction and would be cancelled.

  95. @Mefobills

    Edit some of your comments and have Ron publish them as an article, or several. I’m sure many of us would like to see that on TUR.

    • Agree: Lurker
  96. @Mefobills

    Awesomely further edifying, this comment alone meriting hours of study and contemplation. Thank you.

    I sense Hudson is correct about Augustine of Hippo because wordy types are often using their words to distract from their slight-of-hand. Knew a player called “Deputy Phil” who had an insightful saying: “Talk is cheap, action is deep!”

  97. Lurker says:
    @Event Horizon

    I was suspended from X in the last 24 hours.

    • Replies: @Event Horizon
  98. Lurker says:
    @bike-anarkist

    Outward Bound was a thing in Britain too, in the same era.

  99. @Lurker

    Sorry to hear it, friend, but it doesn’t surprise me.

    X = Twitter = Reddit = censorship regime

    Elon Musk is a fraud.

    • Thanks: Lurker
    • LOL: Gvaltar
  100. @Mefobills

    Hudson is pretty hard on Catholics…

    Devout Catholic scholar author E. Michael Jones

    culturewars.com

    unz.com/author/e-michael-jones/

    in his weekly Friday afternoon 5 pm EDT podcast dated Aug 2, 2024:

    rumble.com/v59h5ox-emj-live-82-breaking-the-jew-taboo.htm

    58:09 The Jewish interpretation took…that narrative and flipped it. And now it’s time to flip it back, because we realize what happens when you allow (((these))) people control over your culture.

    58:34 IT’S BEEN A DISASTER!

    And the Catholic Church is in many ways responsible for this disaster, and the Catholic Church needs to make amends by STARTING OVER and getting back to the traditional teaching of the Church which is that the Jews killed Christ and that they are enemies of the entire human race.

    But here’s something from the Catholic Church Dr. Hudson has to like, a March, 1997, post on the Vatican website foreshadowing the major thesis of his all-important book

    https://michael-hudson.com/2018/08/and-forgive-them-their-debts/ :

    vatican.va/jubilee_2000/magazine/documents/ju_mag_01031997_p-22_en.html

    The Jubilee Year in the Gospel of Luke

    which is a most detailed analysis of Luke 4:16-30.

    As Dr. Hudson did in his book, Fr. Vanhoye sites the Hebrew word “derur“, Deuteronomy 15 debt forgiveness every seventh year, and additionally notes Jesus’ insistence the Torah rules be made universally beneficial rather than only advantageous to Jews.

    Speaking of Jesus Fr. Vanhoye wrote

    This attitude of his caused rising opposition which led him to the cross.

    Indeed, the Jews had Jesus killed for confronting their satanic Jew usury scheme, the source of their overwhelming diabolical power today.

    Admittedly, nobody in Church hierarchy or clergy today seems to know or understand the Gospel truth of which Fr. Vanhoye wrote, but his effort by memorializing in writing offers hope.

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