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Nov 26, 2011 4:46 PM

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This series has a good pace and I like how we're getting everyone's motivations and back stories, which they only really touched upon in Fate/ Stay Night.
Nov 26, 2011 5:18 PM

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halberdiers said:
Nearly forgot abt Fate/zero today no thanks to skyrim. And when I saw waver lighting up the area I immediately thought "hey magelight!"
Hahaha, I thought the exact same thing when Waver did that.
Nov 26, 2011 5:43 PM

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...when Rider gets pants, sh*t's goin down.
Nov 26, 2011 5:45 PM

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ernst said:
If Episode 13 is Kings Feast, that is fitting because it will be aired Dec 24, Christmas Eve.


Look, i think that the informations about Fate/Zero that animelist have are wrong, according to AnimeNewsnetwork, there are 12 episodes in this first season. And if you see the novel, another 3 episodes are perfect to finish the king's feast.

You can see the info here.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=12376
Nov 26, 2011 6:10 PM
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Sury said:
I don't get at all why people seem to like this show that much. I only watch it because of the animation quality an Kaikura Yuki's music. Other than that, I think it's the most overrated series I've ever came across.


What Yumekichi and lolzteez said.

I could think of more shows that are more overrated (to me) than Fate/Zero. But I'm not going to get into too much detail about that since I don't want to start any unnecessary conflict or war about which show is overrated or not here. And I'm sick of using the word overrated too.

Anyways, as lolzteez just mentioned earlier, it's understandable that not everyone is going to love the anime. However, if you're going to say that Fate/Zero is the most overrated series you've come across, you could at least elaborate more why you think so. Or at least explain what you don't like about Fate/Zero. Instead of just simply saying Fate/Zero is overrated and leave it at that because that could potentially tick off some people (the ones that really enjoyed it) who might be a little offended by what you said.

~Off to working on my final projects. Probably leave this discussion alone to give myself less distractions~


I can only see someone saying FZ is overrated, if they had no prior knowledge of the Typemoon/Fate universe. That means they don't understand the significance of the war and characters due to lack of knowledge of the story. I think FZ has done a great job in the animation, and direction/pacing the story department. + They have deleted scenes, which would make some parts less effective and less continuous. If you want my opinion about overrated anime, it's Shakugan no Shana. But I only don't like it because of the way the characters are drawn. If they composed Shana like FZ, my opinion would be drastically different. It's like comparing Samurai X to the the Kenshin TV series... big difference!!

Regarding ep 9, the animation quality is back to where it's supposed to be. My post about ep 8 (if you didn't read it) said the quality dropped in ep 8; that's where they probably decided to do a split cour.
Nov 26, 2011 6:14 PM

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That Sola chick is such a skank.
Nov 26, 2011 6:32 PM

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Sury said:
I don't get at all why people seem to like this show that much. I only watch it because of the animation quality an Kaikura Yuki's music. Other than that, I think it's the most overrated series I've ever came across.


could this series be overrated? yes

is this series a bloody damn good show? HELL YEA!
Nov 26, 2011 6:34 PM

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so much suffering. ;_;

Nov 26, 2011 6:56 PM

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Damn, Rider. Nice pants.
Nov 26, 2011 7:28 PM

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Another "quick" episode and yet so awesome; while it wasn't as good as the last one in my opinion it was still great. Its ironic i couldn't find myself feeling too bad for Kayneth ( i never liked his character at all, so no sympathy) but i hated Sola for that scene; Lancer never seems to never get a break if i felt bad for anyone in this episode it would have been him. Also Caster needs to die like right now, him and Zoken simply need to die horrific deaths nuff said. Also i liked how they toned down Saber's amplified honor issue by simply not showing her a lot lol, because while i like her character i completely agree with Kiritsugu on the fact that she was wrong in letting Lancer pass, well in any case it seems like we see Kariya and Rin next week so I'll definitely be looking forward to it.

Oh quick question, since next episode seems to include Rin i just wanted to make sure that i was clear on something, is the reason the Tohsaka family gave Sakura away because they didn't want competition for Rin or because they owed the Matou family a favor? or neither? because i remember in the scene in the first episode when Kariya was shocked upon finding out that she was given away, that the mother seemed very cold on the matter as if it didn't concern her anymore.
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Nov 26, 2011 7:44 PM

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Need more Caster, he keeps things interesting.
Nov 26, 2011 7:55 PM

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Kayneth lost absolutely everything for that one bullet. He would have been better off if he was killed right there.
Nov 26, 2011 8:26 PM

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Rider being a badass as usual. Awesome.
Can't wait to see Rin and Kariya next ep!
Nov 26, 2011 8:32 PM

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I swear these episodes are getting shorter.
"You watch too much."
"I don't watch enough."

Nov 26, 2011 8:36 PM

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People are hating on Sola because she did the smart thing with Kayneth, a man who she doesn't want to marry (but she's being bargained by her family) and has endangered her life to use her like a tool (mana supply) in his war? Seriously?

What was she supposed to do? Let them become a target because he's pig-headed jealous of the hot Irishman with a magical mole? He's not in the best condition right now.

Not saying she wasn't extreme and didn't have ulterior reasons (she did), but Kayneth isn't exactly a victim. Tables have been turned on him. That's all.
Nov 26, 2011 8:37 PM

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Rin and some Matou next episode? I'm in.
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Nov 26, 2011 8:46 PM

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Godly episode again of Fate\Zero. Even though more gore got censored again in this episode, but it didn't let me down at all.

Rider is like the best big bro ever, he got great respect for Waver and always caring for him and doesn't let him feel depressed at all, by just looking at his face by the end of the episode where they ride together says how big impact Rider has become to Waver. Bittersweet.

Lancer's past got revealed. Of course it's a sad tale, being a Lancer class looks like to be the most suffering one. Bad luck doesn't seem to be all of it. Sola Ui looks to be affected by Lancer's charm skill and makes drastically actions to become closer to Lancer.

I actually felt bad for Kayneth in this episode. He gets almost everything taken away from him and is of course feels sad and depressed knowing he can no longer fight in this war cause of one single bullet he didn't consider could do so much damage to his Mage circuits in his body. Losing his Command Spells to Sola Ui who only has interest in Lancer is also a big burden to him. Especially being his wife... in other word, she is cheating on him.

Kirei getting annoyed at Tokiomi for being boring like Arcer\Gilgamesh told him earlier. It doesn't look like Kirei likes to just sit and wait like Tokiomi does, I also find it boring. He is pretty much keeping one the best Servants in his pocket and does nothing and like wasting time by just sitting and waiting. I hope Kariya beats the crap out of him if they were to meet each other fighting.

Overall another great episode which is building up to the 3rd big fight. (Technically 4th, but it was just a trick anyway by Kirei and Tokiomi.) Rin and Kariya looks like to get a lot of screen time next episode, hopefully we'll also get to see more of this mysterious Berserker.

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I swear these episodes are getting shorter.


Yep indeed. It's officially a fact. Godly shows fastens time. ^^
Nov 26, 2011 8:56 PM

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Diarmuid...major wheels -.-
Can't wait to see Rider's Noble Phantasm animated...guessing that's in 2 weeks time
Nov 26, 2011 9:02 PM

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Good episode,Rider be my bro!

Lancer past was reveled,sad past and been betrayed by his lord,he just want a good lord and he will be at the side of Kayneth to the end,also Sola Ui she is a bitch......

Rider being awesome like always he being a good buddy for Weaver and always cheering him up,to bad that they censor Caster lair but was predictable,they find out assassin is alive so things will get interesting.

Next episode we get some Rin yay!

Btw we need more Gilga.
Nov 26, 2011 9:08 PM

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I haven't posted in all these episode threads from this place but my only comment in all of those would be...

Epic. Hell of a good job. EPIC.
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Nov 26, 2011 9:20 PM

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What was she supposed to do? Let them become a target because he's pig-headed jealous of the hot Irishman with a magical mole? He's not in the best condition right now.


There's the thing called the Church. Remember how Kotomine "seeks refuge after Assassin got killed"?

Even as the audience we know that place is corrupted, it's not yet a known fact for the Lancer group.
Nov 26, 2011 10:08 PM

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Another amazing episode once again. This show is becoming my favorite show. I just earned more respect for Rider.

I can't wait till next episode, we get RIN!! my only problem is the lack of Gilgamesh, but I'm guessing he'll play more of an important role in the 2nd half.
Nov 26, 2011 10:25 PM

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is the reason the Tohsaka family gave Sakura away because they didn't want competition for Rin or because they owed the Matou family a favor? or neither? because i remember in the scene in the first episode when Kariya was shocked upon finding out that she was given away, that the mother seemed very cold on the matter as if it didn't concern her anymore.


Yes, she was given away to the Matou's to avoid competitions, since both Sakura and Rin are strong potential mages.

Her mother is the "obeying type" she can't do anything to stop Tokiomi's decision. Nobody said that she doesn't care or does not feel anything.

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Nov 26, 2011 10:34 PM

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Kratos_Ortega said:
Godly episode again of FateZero. Even though more gore got censored again in this episode, but it didn't let me down at all.
What exactly got censored? Kid's remains and bodies?
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Can't wait to see Rider's Noble Phantasm animated...guessing that's in 2 weeks time
Can't wait to do a GIF of it! It will be EPIC. In fact I hope I can do one of all the servants but I assume not all will have a chance to do their special?
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Sola Ui she is a bitch......
WTF? Sola with her expressions in the spoiler
should be at least Yandere or something. She sure did not look like a bitch. However her personality and attitude are bitchy.

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Nov 26, 2011 10:41 PM

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What exactly got censored? Kid's remains and bodies?


It goes abit beyond that, actually.... I just found out myself.

Nov 26, 2011 10:49 PM
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Otsdarva said:
What exactly got censored? Kid's remains and bodies?


It goes abit beyond that, actually.... I just found out myself.



I wanna see that get animated lol...
Nov 26, 2011 11:19 PM

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Otsdarva said:
What exactly got censored? Kid's remains and bodies?


It goes abit beyond that, actually.... I just found out myself.

Are you serious? You are so shitting me. WTF is that LN reference in writing of this.

Some not alive? You shitting me? That means some of them were still suffering. Dude I am so ^_^ for the fire scene. It means they all no matter who R.I.P. I guess the best of that is the following,

it's weird how your writing + that part makes things more meaningful.

It's really thanks to people like you that can unravel the butchering of stuff like that, that it precisely brings better comprehension to some parts like that pic.

I mean I knew but not by a lot compared to now from how your pointing of the omitted changed in me right now.

Kudos to you!

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Nov 26, 2011 11:27 PM

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Are you serious? You are so shitting me. WTF is that LN reference in writing of this.


Oh, by the way.




Kudos to you!


Another forum I'm on pointed it out. I have an acute imagination, so I've been shuddering for the last two hours with the above spoiler in my head. =_=

Nov 26, 2011 11:45 PM

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Finally some Rider action, even though it was a bit short. No love for Lancer, even Carnival Phantasm


Can't wait to see Rin!
Nov 26, 2011 11:45 PM

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First of all: HOLY FUCKING SHIT TOHSAKA RIN NEXT EPISODE!!!!

Anyway, yeah, this was a great episode. I loved how Lancer's past was done, it was amazingly effective despite it's brevity and that music is godly. Also, the scene where Waver and Rider found Caster's hideout was really well done as well. If that was censorship, it was very well done by seeing the shock and horror on Waver's face.

It's gonna suck though, when we have to wait a season or so for the second half.
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Nov 26, 2011 11:48 PM

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Pretty good episode.
We got to see Lancer's past.
And Iskander mentioning about his pants is still DA BRO!!!
Nov 27, 2011 12:20 AM

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Another great ep. The Lancer flashback was great, now I want OVA's done on all the heroes past lives.
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Nov 27, 2011 12:40 AM

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This was quite a good episode.
I can't wait to watch 'Rin's adventure' :D
Nov 27, 2011 1:00 AM
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Got to love Lancer being full of honor and having a huge heart. He doesn't even hold a grudge from his past. It is a shame they paired him with such lowlifes.
Nov 27, 2011 1:46 AM

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depresing lancer side
nothing much happen in this episode
no epic battle like last episode as i expect

rin in next episode
hope berserker show too
Nov 27, 2011 1:57 AM

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less action then in the previous eps still a good ep nonetheless.
Nov 27, 2011 2:01 AM

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Can't remember what happened in the episode. Was too blinded by how GAR Lancer and Rider were the entire time.
Nov 27, 2011 2:09 AM
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Pretty good episode. Emotionally heavy, but was handled well.

I especially enjoyed that bit with Lancer's past and how they showed a more compassionate side to Waver while he and Iskander were exiting the hideout (plus points for not going over the top).
Nov 27, 2011 2:31 AM

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5layer said:
Can't remember what happened in the episode. Was too blinded by how GAR Lancer and Rider were the entire time.


The entire episode was about loyalty and pants, pretty sure about that.
Nov 27, 2011 2:56 AM
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The episodes of this show go so freaking fast... I did a double take when the ed showed up all of a sudden.
Nov 27, 2011 3:22 AM

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Lancers memories were great an I had missed Rider in the past few episodes so it was good the 2nd half of the episode featured them. Overall a great episode again.


Nov 27, 2011 3:29 AM

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People are hating on Sola because she did the smart thing with Kayneth, a man who she doesn't want to marry (but she's being bargained by her family) and has endangered her life to use her like a tool (mana supply) in his war? Seriously?

What was she supposed to do? Let them become a target because he's pig-headed jealous of the hot Irishman with a magical mole? He's not in the best condition right now.

Not saying she wasn't extreme and didn't have ulterior reasons (she did), but Kayneth isn't exactly a victim. Tables have been turned on him. That's all.
Wow, you're the first person I've seen defend Sola.
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Oh, by the way.



Another forum I'm on pointed it out. I have an acute imagination, so I've been shuddering for the last two hours with the above spoiler in my head. =_=

That is fucking metal! Fucked in the head, but extremely metal. I can only hope caster and his master's fate is as satisfying to watch as it was to read.
Nov 27, 2011 3:47 AM

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Poor Lancer having such a sad ending like that !!
Nov 27, 2011 3:53 AM

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I hate how you just get into the episode and it finishes. Another long week -_-

5/5
Nov 27, 2011 4:36 AM

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Denvious said:
I hate how you just get into the episode and it finishes. Another long week -_-

5/5


This is why every day besides Saturday sucks now.

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That is fucking mental! Fucked in the head, but extremely mental. I can only hope caster and his master's fate is as satisfying to watch as it was to read.


Pretty sure this was done by the same guy that did Saya no Uta. So I'm not as surprised as I should be. I was also expecting just a mountain of bodies.

Nice Dun avi btw.
Nov 27, 2011 4:48 AM

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OOh Waver so Tsundere <333 :P
Nov 27, 2011 5:25 AM

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I felt really sorry for Kayneth. He was one of the genius magician in highest position, but now he cannot even use magic at all.

At the same time, this is what I like about Urobuchi's writing style. He never wastes any character. All character is portrayed in there maximum Depth. We can sympathise Kayneth. When Kayneth dreams Lancer's past, instead of feeling said for his past, he felt doubt and anxiety due to the fact that Lancer's purpose is not about obtaining holy grail. Lancer's wish is already fulfilled as what he wanted is proper relationship of master and loyal knight. At the same time, Kayneth already has bad feeling about Solaui's action. When his finger is broken, we can really understand his despair... so badly.
Nov 27, 2011 5:53 AM

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rider has a new achievement
"acquired pants" xD

there are many assassin but they die far too easily :/
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Nov 27, 2011 6:48 AM

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Kayneth doesn't have much luck does he first his item gets stolen by one of his students then his hotel is blown up and now he lost his magic.
And he is being tortured by his fiance.
Sola might have been harsh on him her method was probably one of the only ways to get the seal, Kayneth simply isn't in a state any more to be a master.
In his current state he won't last long.
I have to be honest in the fact that i don't know what Sola's true intensions are but if she wants a change at the Holy Grail she made the right decision.

It's a shame Rider didn't encounter Caster he would probably have killed him if he did.
Now that Assassin has for those who didn't know yet it won't be long before there is a fight near the church.
Nov 27, 2011 8:34 AM

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Otsdarva said:
What exactly got censored? Kid's remains and bodies?


It goes abit beyond that, actually.... I just found out myself.



Damn, I can't believe how brutal caster and his master are. I really want to see that scene get animated, as it would add a lot more power to the scene.
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