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Nov 10, 2017 11:47 AM
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Does someone else listen to older German Music?

It's quite baffling how candid everything used to be:



We also got Titles that translate as "She got a big Nazi!" from the Year 1928 (!), some melancholic Ballads about the Jewish Germans and about "the Nigger Jim".

Other great Songs from their Sounds include "Wenn der weiße Flieder wieder blüht", "Du schwarzer Zigeuner" and "Bei mir bist du scheijn".

A special Mention goes to the German Openings of Maya the Honeybee and Heidi.

There's also great Music with Nazi Themes like "Deutschland du Land der Treue" or "Erika", but there is also Music aside from military Themes from that Era like "Die Lorelei" ("The Lorelei") and "In der Nacht ist der Mensch nicht gern allein".

Last, but not least: "I wished I were a Chicken"
Nov 10, 2017 12:24 PM
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Shows you how far back Americanization goes, most of this is basically just American music with German lyrics.
Nov 10, 2017 2:23 PM
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Shows you how far back Americanization goes, most of this is basically just American music with German lyrics.
Yes, but unlike with more modern Titles, they used to make German Songs out of it.

Marlene Dietrich, an American Actress born as a German, made a good Cover of an American Song:
"Sag mir wo die Blumen sind"

Besides, American Pop Culture has been influenced by Elements from the German Culture first:



I do wonder whether there also had been that straightforward American Titles.

Btw.: I've made this Topic, since I got a bit fascinated about how direct and without Care of Political Correctness Songs used to be made. The Golden 20s seemed to really exist in German-speaking Countries as well - at least music-wise.

Also, just to show that alone in the 20th Century, there is more to German Music than just "Neue Deutsche Welle", "Neue Deutsche Härte", contemporary Pop-Songs, and Military Songs, though Moskau performed in Mocow as a Military Parade is exceptionally awesome, too.
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Nov 10, 2017 2:47 PM
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I was just commenting on how most of these videos are just jazz band songs.
Nov 10, 2017 2:49 PM
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NudeBear said:
I was just commenting on how most of these videos are just jazz band songs.
The Lyrics are the actually awesome Part of them, but yeah, many of the Oldies are Jazz Songs.
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Noboru said:


4) The Amish speak a Kind of German.



nah amish speak dutch. although it originates from western germanic tongues it's different enough that amish and german speaking people have slight problems talking to one another. this only gets worse with the higher forms of german speaking.

my grandmother came from germany and joined an amish church on arriving in the us then later married into the family. she said it was like learning slang going between all 3 languages.

but anywho yeah dutch has changed enough that its become its own thing.
Nov 10, 2017 2:59 PM
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it's not a criticism btw, some of these are nice. It's just too bad i can't understand it.
Nov 10, 2017 3:03 PM
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On topic, one of my favorites by Strauss:




Listen to that lush orchestration, fucking epic man.
Nov 10, 2017 3:07 PM
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nah amish speak dutch. although it originates from western germanic tongues it's different enough that amish and german speaking people have slight problems talking to one another. this only gets worse with the higher forms of german speaking.
Pennsylvania Dutch is really German, West Central German to be more exactly.

Old Dutch is pretty much Old Low Franconian.

There are also Low-German-speaking Mennonites, which is about as mutual intelligible as Cantonese and Mandarin, but still a German Language, just like Cantonese and Mandarin are Chinese Languages.
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hmm, suppose i should brush up more on my german and my various amish dialects. i admit im pretty rusty all the way around, since grandmas passing since i've no one else to actually practice them with.
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Erika is an amazing song.

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NudeBear said:
Listen to that lush orchestration, fucking epic man.
I haven't heard that much Operas, but I prefer male Voices (Tenors) in these Cases:



NekO_RelliK said:
hmm, suppose i should brush up more on my german and my various amish dialects. i admit im pretty rusty all the way around, since grandmas passing since i've no one else to actually practice them with.
Yes. you should. You don't know what you're missing otherwise by those Lyrics!


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Erika is an amazing song.
lol, that's a nice Bike xD
You might also like "Lilli Marleen" and "Edelweiß".
Nov 11, 2017 2:33 AM

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@noboru i can still speak a good bit, certainly enough to order food, get where im going, and general communication. actually hoping to move to germany at some point. sadly tho it's a lot harder to learn without having an environment where i have to.
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@noboru i can still speak a good bit, certainly enough to order food, get where im going, and general communication. actually hoping to move to germany at some point. sadly tho it's a lot harder to learn without having an environment where i have to.
Yeah, if you don't regularly practice, it'll be harder to learn a Language.

It's quite ironic that you might have it harder to move to Germany compared to People from Africa. I don't know whether you still get a Right of Return as a (Spät-)Aussiedler or a (late) Repatriate, but I guess not. You probably are regarded just as any other Non-German Person from a Third-Party Country (non-EU and non-EC), except that there might be no political Support for you, unlike for People of Arabic and/or African Origin.

Do you have any (older) Pennsylvania Dutch Songs that come to mind?
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Noboru said:
Yeah, if you don't regularly practice, it'll be harder to learn a Language.

It's quite ironic that you might have it harder to move to Germany compared to People from Africa. I don't know whether you still get a Right of Return as a (Spät-)Aussiedler or a (late) Repatriate, but I guess not. You probably are regarded just as any other Non-German Person from a Third-Party Country (non-EU and non-EC), except that there might be no political Support for you, unlike for People of Arabic and/or African Origin.

Do you have any (older) Pennsylvania Dutch Songs that come to mind?


umm what? i've got my american identity paperers by right of birth on american soil so as long as i don't formally renounce my citizenship via the courts in order to serve in the german, or any other, army i can't loose my american citizenship not that i see myself coming back to us soil any time after successfully getting out of here with a legal document stating i can live elsewhere.

grandma didn't make mention of amish songs, in fact she stated that the community she joined frowned on any sort of music or expression of anything by females. females are mainly seen as being there to output children and do menial chores for the men who focus on bringing home money in most amish settings to my knowledge. of course music is bound to exist somewhere, even slaves sang despite possible beatings for that action so i cant imagine someone not expressing themselves in what is supposed to be a loving relationship.
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i dont even understand they language but it went right on my bookmark


hey thes was parodied in der fuehrer's face
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NekO_RelliK said:
umm what? i've got my american identity paperers by right of birth[...]
I was talking about getting German Identity Papers so you could live in German. The Times for Exit-Visas are already bygone, at least in modern, Western Countries.
Ofc, Naturalization is always possible, but I was wondering whether or not you could still apply for German Citizenship as a "late Repatriate", but I think, those Cases are restricted towards ethnic Germans from Europe, including the European Parts of Russia.

grandma didn't make mention of amish songs, in fact she stated that the community she joined frowned on any sort of music or expression of anything by females.
Oh well, nothing you can do, then. There are indeed Amish Songs, but the Pennsylvania Dutch Songs are easier on the Ears.


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i dont even understand they language but it went right on my bookmark
lol, the Refrain basically means: "You have been bathed too hot as a Child. Thereby, you have been certainly harmed. My dear Friend I say it to your Face, you don't interest me, you don't interest me. You have been bathed too hot as a Child. Therefore, I recommend to you: if you bath, don't bath too hot".

Should have been "Des Fuehrer's/Führers Face" to look more German or at least used actual Fraktur. If you could understand German, you would have your Fun with this Song as well, which is basically


I also have the perfect Theme Song for MAL:

Nov 11, 2017 9:14 PM

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This is some Weimar stuff up in here. I don't know that I can call this "German music".

Handel, Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Wagner, Strauss... that's Germanic music. Some of it is Austrian I guess, but the distinctions aren't as clear back then. For example, what is Mozart's nationality?

Then there's more recent music like Berlin School electronic (Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze). My favorite from the last couple decades is progressive metal band Vanden Plas.
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This is some Weimar stuff up in here. I don't know that I can call this "German music".

Handel, Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Wagner, Strauss... that's Germanic music. Some of it is Austrian I guess, but the distinctions aren't as clear back then. For example, what is Mozart's nationality?

Then there's more recent music like Berlin School electronic (Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze). My favorite from the last couple decades is progressive metal band Vanden Plas.
The Weimar Republic is still a Part of German History. At least, the whole Song of the Germans was National Anthem there + the Preamble displayed a more accurate Picture about the (ethnic) German People.

Those you've mentioned are classical Music. I was talking about old 20th Century ones, though.
Mozart is seen as a German by the Germans and as an Austrian by the Austrians, while the Austrians regard Hitler as German and the Germans regard him as Austrian.
Historically, Austrians had been regarded as (Southern) Germans. It was only after WWII that the People there started to regard themselves as more Austrian than German.

Those seem to be newer and there certainly have been much electronic Music produced in Germany as well, but I've only really heard about Kraftwerk. "Das Model" was really great btw.
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Some other Examples, I happen to stumble upon recently:

"Ich brauche keine Millionen", an Insert Song in a Musical where a Woman sings about not needing any Wealth, but just Music, Music, Music. The Highheel Dance starting at around 2:10 is really skillful.

"Kriminaltango" is a fairly well-known Piece in German Music Classes. The German Version is way more popular than the Italian Original.

Songs of Musicals and/or Movies #3: "Ein Freund, ein guter Freund" is also the Song from a Movie. It's about three Guys praising the Value of Friendship over a Love Relationship.

And for the Military Song Fans:



("Im Wald, im grünen Walde")

It's a nice Folk Song about the Daughter of a Hunter who has "shot" through the Heart of a Person.
I really like the Lines "Und kommt ... der ... Frühling in das Tal
/Grüß ... mir ... die Lore noch einmal" around 2:34 ("and if .. the ... Spring comes again in the Valley, greet ... the ... Lore from me once again"), since the Way it is sung with the Breaks makes it quite catchy.
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@Noboru aah, I see. from what i read online i will need a work permit which doubles as a residency permit in order to get a job over there, and my us state has an agreement that allows me to get a drivers license by taking the written test only. as long as i get the license within so long after my move. i know the work permit lasts for like 2 years before you need to renew it but idk how/if i would have to also renew my travel visa once actually living in germany.
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@NekO_RelliK: Yeah, if you have a Work Permit, you'll get to stay as a Resident for a longer Period of Time. As for the Driving Licence, I've heard about such an Agreement, but if you've made your License with an automatic-shift Car, you aren't allowed to drive a manual-shift one.
You could try asking the German Embassy whether or not you could still apply as a late Repatriate, but your Pennsylvanian Dutch + your normal German have to get better, first.


@ Topic: some German Schlager:

"Ganz Paris träumt von der Liebe"

"Seemann deine Heimat ist das Meer"

"Mein Freund der Baum"


Probably the most famous Schlager Song ever:

"Marmor, Stein und Eisen bricht"

Let's move to the Mountains:

"Komm mit in die Berge"

"Mein Vater ist ein Appenzeller" (Asian)

(native Bavarian German)
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@Noboru I originally got my english license with an auto but I can drive both. I actually prefer stick as they preform so much better in both gas efficiency and in how quickly one can top out. (if I'm going to live in germany I've got to drive on "that road".
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NekO_RelliK said:
I originally got my english license with an auto but I can drive both. I actually prefer stick as they preform so much better in both gas efficiency and in how quickly one can top out. (if I'm going to live in germany I've got to drive on "that road".
If you've made the License with an Automatic, you aren't allowed to drive one with manual Shifting.
Are you referring to the Autobahn?

"Wir fahr'n, fahr'n, fahr'n auf der Autobahn!"
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i don't think there's a way to tell what kind of car i got the license with other than talking to the us government? either way i'd have my car shipped over, it's got an option for stick as well as auto.

yes i am referring to that road. I didnt come out and say it because apparantly autobahn just means road, ergo every road would be an autobahn? eh whatever no speed limit sounds relaxing.
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Errm, you should know whether or not you had to use a Clutch everytime you had to shift Gears or not.

Autobahn means Motorway or Highway. A normal Road (aka a Street that leads outside Town) is a Landstraße.

Actually driving there isn't as great if you have to drive there for Work and/or generally, since the Autobahn can be too full to full-speed, plus there are more and more Sections with (temporary) Speed Limits, Roadwork Constructions, Drivers that have never looked into the Mirror and still want to overtake, People that stay on the left Lane(s) while driving slow, etc.

Oh and speaking of relaxing: The first and third Song from the linked List of Pennsylvanian Dutch Songs in #17 above are really relaxing, you should give them a Shot if you haven't!
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"Vergiss mich nicht", another Insert Song in a Film.

Then we have some great German Sailor Songs by Freddy Quinn in the 1950s/1960s:

"Die Gitarre und das Meer"

"So ist nun einmal das Leben"

"Die Wolken, der Wind und das weite Meer"

But also nice Film Music Titles like "vergangen - vergessen - vorüber"


edit: oh and old German Rock'n Roll is also very nice.
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I prefer the war songs over the others, they are just so joyful.
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Nyu said:
I prefer the war songs over the others, they are just so joyful.
I can hear all various Kinds of Songs.

"Schlager" Songs (some older ones) also often have a catchy Upbeat (#22 last 4 Links).

Some of the ~1905-1940s Jazz Songs are also quite joyful like "Ich fahr mit meiner Klara in die Sahara" (I'm driving to the Sahara with my Klara) or "Wenn ich Liebe brauch dann geh ich zur Pauline" (if I need Love, I'll go to Pauline).

Also the one Friend Song linked in #20 (Ein Freund, ein guter Freund) is also quite a nice happy-go-lucky Song from 1930 (before Nazi Germany).

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Anyway, War Songs are also very welcome, I just didn't want to restrict myself on them. Any other good Songs that come to Mind?
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Nyu said:
I prefer the war songs over the others, they are just so joyful.
I can hear all various Kinds of Songs.

"Schlager" Songs (some older ones) also often have a catchy Upbeat (#22 last 4 Links).

Some of the ~1905-1940s Jazz Songs are also quite joyful like "Ich fahr mit meiner Klara in die Sahara" (I'm driving to the Sahara with my Klara) or "Wenn ich Liebe brauch dann geh ich zur Pauline" (if I need Love, I'll go to Pauline).

Also the one Friend Song linked in #20 (Ein Freund, ein guter Freund) is also quite a nice happy-go-lucky Song from 1930 (before Nazi Germany).

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Anyway, War Songs are also very welcome, I just didn't want to restrict myself on them. Any other good Songs that come to Mind?


There was a Singer, but I can't remember her name, I've heard some of her songs. Her name was something like Lilith, and she was famous during Nazi Germany.
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There was a Singer, but I can't remember her name, I've heard some of her songs. Her name was something like Lilith, and she was famous during Nazi Germany.
Do you mean the Song "Lilli Marleen"? (see also: #12)



If not, is it Marlene Dietrich (cf. #3)?

If it isn't Marlene Dietrich, either: does any of those Names ring a Bell?
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I only know this one and no, i do not listen to it. Not even ironically.

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Noboru said:
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There was a Singer, but I can't remember her name, I've heard some of her songs. Her name was something like Lilith, and she was famous during Nazi Germany.
Do you mean the Song "Lilli Marleen"? (see also: #12)



If not, is it Marlene Dietrich (cf. #3)?

If it isn't Marlene Dietrich, either: does any of those Names ring a Bell?


Its Marlene Dietrich, her songs are great.
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I only know this one and no, i do not listen to it. Not even ironically.
The Title definitively rings a Bell, but I can only faintly recall the Melody with some more modern Variations like this one or this one. From where have you heard about this Song?


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Its Marlene Dietrich, her songs are great.
I agree. What are your favorite Songs from her?
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Noboru said:
Corvus8 said:
I only know this one and no, i do not listen to it. Not even ironically.
The Title definitively rings a Bell, but I can only faintly recall the Melody with some more modern Variations like this one or this one. From where have you heard about this Song??


It was a german youtube poop with a group of girls singing it, Asbestmusik.
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It was a german youtube poop with a group of girls singing it, Asbestmusik.
Looks like a pretty badly done Parody if you got it from that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zph0_qwOnk4&feature=youtu.be&t=73

This is btw. the Original-Video of the Advertising:

https://youtu.be/kFXy8Sec2oo?t=150

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Hans Albers also had some great Songs such as

"Flieger, grüß mir die Sonne" (Flier, greet me the Sun)

"Auf der Reeperbahn nachts um halb eins" (On the Reeperbahn (Street in Hamburg) at Night at half past Midnight)

and "La Paolma"

Freddy Quinn's Version is also great, btw.

Else, I've also found this Song by Jupp Schmitz to be quite timeless:

"Wer soll das bezahlen?" (Who should pay for it?)
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Camillio Felden - Sag Warum (thanks to @Zoushu for pointing me to this song)

And in remembrance to Costa Cordalis who died today:

- Anita

- Carolina komm

- Shangri-La
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Ah, you like the Weimar era. It was an unstable time with a faulty political system based on a flawed set of directives following WWI, but there was an explosion of culture and different experimental art styles. Think about German film in the 20s and it was a pioneer.

I've listened to and enjoyed some of what's referenced here, but most of the older German music I like is considerably older. Like, 19th century and before. Tannhauser and the Ring Cycle (Wagner) and such. Germany (and Austria, the "Greater Germany" Germanic region as a whole) really has such a rich tradition and leading position in Europe in music spanning centuries.

I love opera and (instrumental) classical so like mostly older stuff, but there's so much out there. Even during the WWII era, Germany had top-notch martial themes and military music.
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@WatchTillTandava: I don't really like the Weimar era. At most, I like the preamble of the constitution talking about Germans in stems, about the full Song of the Germans being the national anthem, and about the music, though it's more like I've stumbled upon those songs per coincidence and found them funny.
Those "experiments" ruined arts and architecture, imho., but that's a completely different topic.

If anything, then I've heard and know more songs that came much later as "Schlager". These, together with the folk songs that have been there decades and centuries earlier, are about what's most appealing with German songs to me, aside from stuff from the 70/80/90s/early 2000s from the "Neue deutsche Welle" (with Nena and Co.).

Fully agreed with you that the cultural, German area is famous for its music. Not only with classical music (Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, Brams, Strauß Sr./Jr., etc.) which I also enjoy here and there, but also with Christmas carols in especial.

Only the refrain is in German, but I find the version of "Muss i denn" by Elvis Presley quite pleasant to listen to.

Not sure when the recording was and by whom, but this version of "Schwarzbraun ist die Haselnuss" has been my recently favorite marching song (the song is a much older German folk song)

I'm not really into operas and musicals, though...However, if you know good (sung) ones, you are free to post them. It's very likely that they have been recorded sometimes in the 20th century, anyway
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absoulutely adore the vibe, but would never listen to such music
as a german person, that's just embarassing




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Any updates? I found a Youtube Channel that plays 1920's to 1940's German stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/@HeadHunter131/videos
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I quite enjoy Zarah Leander, Max von schillings, Richard Strauss, Anton Bruckner...
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Any updates? I found a Youtube Channel that plays 1920's to 1940's German stuff.
No updates on my part, since I've stopped actively looking for music. But thanks for the link

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I quite enjoy Zarah Leander, Max von schillings, Richard Strauss, Anton Bruckner...
Only Richard Strauß rings a bell, though Zarah Leander's song "Kann denn Liebe Sünde sein" has quite the familiar vibe. Anton Bruckner died before the 20th century, so it doesn't count. And I usually don't include classical music but rather early modern songs (usually from the 1920s and 1930s) and older Schlager songs for this topic, even when there's enough more contemporary and older and/or classical stuff that is also very good

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