Well, we can’t have Northern Europeans going around being more beautiful than everyone else….
get Babs Spectre on the horn and get me some more Africans up there!

Alas, modern Swedish women tend to be on the fat side and to display masculine features. And I’m talking about the natives. 1984 was 40 years ago, Steve. The world has changed, not for the better.

Pics?

Warlike Vikings. To the surviving victor go the spoils of war.

Very high natural selection pressure in an unforgiving climate and environment.

Dutch sprinter Lieke Klaver is the most impressive woman athlete i’ve ever seen. what lab did they make her in? wouldn’t she be better suited to a career as a magazine model or maybe fitness and bodybuilding competitions and crossfit games? my god.

1 million followers on instagram. LOL. something that was never an option for these people even 15 years ago. remember how olympians had to wait a few months after the olympics ended to sign some pathetic $50,000 endorsement for Wheaties or to hawk orange juice to kids. just enough money to pay rent and bills for another year.

today she makes more than enough money to pay her bills just from her instagram page and probably fields dozens of marriage proposals from rich european guys.

at least in the US, they did change the endoresment rules for ‘amateur’ athletes, so you could strike while the iron was hot. tons of active olympians with their own television commercials now. that wasn’t legal back in the day, and they made you wait almost long enough that your brief fame in an olympic sport that nobody cares about was almost over. plus the IRS used to literally charge you tax for your medals, an insane convention that never should have been a thing.

The Bohemian Corporal would have approved.

My personal encounter with the largest mass of beauty in one place was when a group of Singapore Airlines flight attendants arrived at the security checkpoint at SFO while I was in line. Just wow.

Off the top of my head, I believe Sweden is now about 15% Muslim immigrants.

That photo is almost 70 years old. She is still alive, but is 88 years old.

The passage of time…

In the comics, super powers come from high mutational load.

Gunhild is still with us at age 88, lets hope she had a volleyball team of children.

(She came 4th in 1956, btw.)

She may have had crumbly teeth though. No smile see?

after decades of this stuff it’s impossible not to conclude the women track runners and jumpers are much better looking on average than the women in any other sport. even a lot of the sisters look good.

exceptions are the east african runners who always look odd, very unaesthetic people in general. and the woman throwers, who are hideous beasts. the American woman who won the discus, Valari Allman, was the first good looking woman thrower i’ve ever seen in over 20 years of being subjected to this stuff.

they used to NEVER cover the women’s throwing events at all. my memory is that sometime around 2000, the television producers began briefly showing those competitions, and dear lord. as America has gone progressively to the left, they’ve shown these awful creatures more and more during coverage of the games.

i admit to actually thinking that the women’s throwing events were only recently added to the Olympic program in the 90s or something, specifically due to this effect of NEVER showing any of it, to gradually showing lots of it. i had no idea at all women have been throwing shotput or 70 years. if you hadn’t seen it, who on earth would ever look it up? they didn’t add women throwing the hammer until 2000, so my recollection of the ‘progression’ and acceptance of giant ugly women throwing heavy things is still pretty much correct. they just never covered that stuff until 1996 at the earliest, right around when they added the last implement so the women could do all the same things the men were doing.

Best looking but what about rationality??? Swedes are one of the wokest among Why ppl… Jews on other hand tend to look ugly (high mutational load??) but they basically taken the Western civilization and now are clearly working hard to eliminate their main competitors (like a clever businessmen tend to operate in a competition scenario)…

Maybe the causal arrow flew in a different direction. The Swedes and other Scandinavians, called Vikings, flooded south in 9th through 12th Centuries, conquering Ireland, England, Northwest France, Sicily and founding the first Russian state in Kiev, and thus becoming the aristocracy and rulers of much of Europe. So maybe our ideas of beauty were shaped by the Scandinavian features of the rulers of our European homelands.

It would make a lot of sense.

I have a Latin American chess set with Spaniards on one side and natives on the other. (They did fun stuff like having castles and Aztec pyramids for rooks.) The Spaniards are blond, though, which seems…inaccurate.

“Alas, modern Swedish women tend to be on the fat side and to display masculine features.”

Not quite.

https://citymagazine.si/en/svedinjes-are-svedinjes-really-the-most-beautiful-women-in-the-world/

Perhaps you should get your own Scandinavian beauty off of fried cheese curds and pork rinds.

The last time my Swedish friend was in Japan (Osaka) in November, immigration asked: Where are you from? He answered Sweden, and they didn’t even want to see his passport, but simply bowed.

Being physically fit does a great deal for a woman’s appearance even if it doesn’t change her face.

Also, Gunhild Larking is remarkably young looking today for 88 (she is 85 in this photo):
https://images.app.goo.gl/8WvGrwsLVcXsk7uE8

Historical intermarriage between the old aristocracies exchanged a fair (pun intended) amount of pale-complected, light-haired people throughout old Europe. Take a web-gander through Spain’s past and you’ll notice many examples of blue-eyed blonds, i.e., the ruling caste. Even today, look at Mexico or most South American governing bodies. Lots of folks who fit in at State Department or university mixers, with few mestizos in sight.

Whether it’s fair or not, the pretty people usually end up on top.

Cold. Cold eliminates many diseases, restricts food abundance, and forces discipline and industry on the slowest individual.

Scandinavia is also the most pozzed per capita. Nobody is perfect.

So you get your knowledge of female besuty out of silly girly magazines? Me, I trust my lying eyes.
Also, when did you become a lover of Nordic Aryan beauty?

Not quite.

Whites are the standard of beauty. It doesn’t have anything to do with their historical influence & power. It seems some physiognomies are just more pleasing to look at. It reminds me of pope Gregory’s famous utterance: Non Angli, sed angeli – “They are not Angles, but angels”, when he first encountered pale-skinned English boys at a slave market, sparking his dispatch of St. Augustine of Canterbury to England to convert the English, according to Bede. Pope added: “Well named, for they have angelic faces and ought to be co-heirs with the angels in heaven.”

Gregory’s Anglo contemporaries were, basically-savages. Nobody was treating them as equals, and sophisticated Romans of his times never considered them to be their betters. But it was physical attraction that mattered.

Enjoy the view, lol!

Blacks hate scandis

Internationally, country by country, the percentage of the population with BMI over 25 has doubled since 1980. Sweden started lower, but the trend is the same. Large metro areas tend to be thinner though.

The US and Mexico have kind of maxed out at over 2/3 fat (BMI>25). It’s unknown whether it can go much further. Can it get to 90 percent?

Body weight is strongly heritable (~0.85), as is height, so BMI is strongly heritable (BW in kg/Ht in m squared), so it’s down to our obesogenic environment, which is being globalized.

She’s still alive, at 88. As is that other, less attractive Swede, Kris Kristofferson.

One has to wonder if the very unattractive names they give such stunning girls, such as Gunhild, Sigrid, Ingeborg, Gunilla, and Ulla, are meant to serve as a check on their egos.

I vaguely remember a map, perhaps Carleton Coon’s, that showed how almost every country nation in Europe was the result of the crossing of two subraces, sometimes three. The exception was central Sweden.

It does seem that ugliness gets bred out of homogeneous populations over time. Whereas there is plenty to be found in the crossroads of the Mediterranean and Middle East. If the race-mixing happened thousands of years ago, that’s enough time for a remedy. Of all the Ethiopians, Eritreans, as Somalis I’ve known, the only truly ugly one was a Somali with a recent Portuguese ancestor.

The Scandinavian countries have a demanding climate and the geography is often challenging and isolating, an environment that would have played a role in preserving desirable phenotypes. Historically they seem to have exercised care in marrying for children.

At one time in Iceland, illiterate women weren’t allowed to get married. Icelanders are much more liberal about relationships now but they still pay attention to genetics. The small island nation has a dating app to avoid accidental incest.

An elongated physique is attractive; lots of nilotics are quite stunning as well. Swedish women also tend to have somewhat smaller features than those farther west such as Norwegians and Britons. Compare Swedish Larking to Norwegian Babe Didrikson.

GAE wins Olympic Medal Tally, with the help of Imane Khelif.

Or, the selective pressures for health were much fiercer in Sweden’s cold climate, and what Europeans perceive as beauty is highly correlated with health. Of course, that ignores Mongolians and Eskimos.

Sadly for me, my 3 Swedish grandparents did not bequeath much to me in the way of good looks. I’m not exactly Rondo Hatten, but not a Skarsgård either. Actually, come to think of it, I DO look like a Skarsgård, but unfortunately Stellan , not Alexander or Bill. Tvärr!

My half Swede mother was good-looking, but failed to pass that trait down to me; my little brother and sisters got the attractiveness. The one thing I do have going for me is, on the cusp of 70, I still have all my hair. Not only that but very little of it is gray although I’m getting to the age where having no gray hair invites suspicion, and can look kind of goofy. Oh well, count my blessings.

A while it’s true that the Swedes have gotten a little more tjockis (fatter) they’re still a very good looking people.

A small theater I worked with in the early 1980s presented a one-woman show featuring the Swedish-American actress Viveca Lindfors, who was brought over to replace Ingrid Bergman when Bergman soured fans by divorcing her first husband in the late 1940s. The show drew many older Swedish-American women, and I was struck by how handsome they all were. Lindfors was also a strikingly good-looking woman well into her 60s, though she insisted on wearing an olive drab field jacket to maintain her bohemian reputation.

Unfortunately, these days your typical Swedish woman is closer to Greta Thunberg than Anita Ekberg.

William Kirk discusses the very disturbing way that many courts around the country are upholding statutory waiting periods and the very dangerous fallout that comes right now from thoses rulings.

The Biden Harris DOJ position articulated in the Vanderstok “ghost gun” case is very scary and could set a dangerous precedent for banning AR-15s if the Supreme Court upholds it.

And… The most beautiful woman in the world might just be a Norwegian- Synnøve Macody Lund:

The historian Will Durant thought our preference for fair-skinned, fair-haired people sprang from the Germanic conquest of the western Roman Empire, making Germans the ruling class and their appearance the standard of beauty.

Mine was in 1988 when my then fiancee’ and I went to view a wedding service at a church in Santa Monica where we would wed. A series of gorgeous (and scantily-clad for a wedding) young women entered the church and I commented to my future spouse that it looked like a convention of $500/hour hookers. It turned out that one of the LA Ram’s cheerleaders (The Embraceable Ewes) was marrying one of the Rams.

Eugenics?

Henry VIII’s first wiife Katherine of Aragon was blonde.

I am flattered my ancestry (Dutch and Norwegian) gets this positive attention. I got most of the Nordic stuff but my nose is a bit chunky and my skin not quite fair enough for Nordic perfection. Fortunately, my British/Irish wife overlooked these deficits.

Zhang Ziyi

Indira Varma

I’m married to and have kids with a very attractive Scandinavian woman whom I met in Steve’s beloved SFV. I’ve lived in her country off and on and can testify that blond women who match the above photo are plentiful. Especially if you get out of the cities and into the rural areas. However, the hotspot for gorgeous European women is Budapest. A medley of West and East traits, coloring, bum and boobs. If you’re a young man my advice is to decamp for Budapest. Leave these terrible American white women to their oppressive ideologies and empty lives.

leaving a surplus of females, who will be chosen as wives mostly on beauty.

This is why the expression “butter face” came into being.

Off the top of my head, I believe Sweden is now about 15% Muslim immigrants.

And now they have a huge problem of violence committed by youths and migrants. Might the two things be related?

Yes, selection for one trait means not selecting for another trait. Choose brains, give up beauty.

Before Immigration is Our Strength.

Yeah, gets one to consider the Circassians; frequently offered as the most beautiful of people; haven’t fared too well in the leadership of strong nations thing.

Low mutational load? Regional evolution?

The answer you’re looking for, Steve, is: racism.

The answer is always racism.

Gunhild is still with us at age 88, lets hope she had a volleyball team of children.

I was wondering if she had any granddaughters as AnotherSon is still looking.

But–not solid, but the search bots seem to think–she had no children at all. Like so much else with women and the modern world–a waste. In this case a hideous waste.

Also, when did you become a [noticer] of Nordic Aryan beauty?

Yeah, this from a guy whose usual shtick is telling us that differences between people is just unimportant noise.

I’m on the fence regarding the M-4s. These weapons are already in mass circulation and I’m fine with that. My beef is with the gun itself. I don’t know if the misfire problem has been fixed in the newer models. My home defense is thus: 12 GA Mossberg pump, Browning 9mm, S&W .44. That’s more than adequate for a neighborhood filled with Filipinos and Dot-Heads who seem to be all employed in the health care industry. Whilst a young man I carried a drop gun. Which was dumb. The M-4/AR-15 goes beyond self-defense: it is a weapon of war. To be carried by Tim Walz in a combat zone. But again, I’m for legality. A responsibly armed civilian populace is a good thing.

Lots of canned fish, pork parts, and leverpostej which I actually got used to whilst under gloomy skies.

Now that´s unfair … the Swedes were still the terror of Europe until the Nordic War,
when Peter the Great cut off their danglings at Poltawa/Ukraine (hint, hint) 1709;
let´s hope the Germans do not take quite as long to regrow them 😈

According to some, mixed race people (and by that they’re talking strictly about black/white mixes) are the best looking in the world. Your lying eyes will tell you that’s not true.

That isn’t the most beautiful woman in the world. I see women better looking than she is multiple times a week.

The one thing I do have going for me is, on the cusp of 70, I still have all my hair.

LOL. A fantastic attribute I wish I could claim to have. Enjoy.

Dutch sprinter Lieke Klaver is the most impressive woman athlete i’ve ever seen. what lab did they make her in?

I enjoyed seeing the Dutch women on the track. In yesterday’s 4×4, Femke Bol–400 hurdler–ran down and passed an Irish girl and a “British” black–both part of mixed (white/African) teams–to grab a silver, four seconds behind the (all blacks/mixes) US team. But the Dutch team was all actual Dutch girls, from a nation with only 17 million people.

Clearly you’ve never been to Israel. 🙂

Or, the selective pressures for health were much fiercer in Sweden’s cold climate, and what Europeans perceive as beauty is highly correlated with health. Of course, that ignores Mongolians and Eskimos.

I can’t speak for the Eskimos, but there are some real cuties here:

Living, as I do, in that human zoo which is inner city London, England, I recall one occasion in which several buses disgorged their passengers – obviously tourists from a Scandinavian country – in the main street of town, near to the local subway station.
The neighborhood is overwhelmingly black and subcon in population, with many being of distinctively short stature, unbecoming countenance and a general unprepossessing appearance.
The contrast with the Scandinavians – to a man and woman tall, good looking, blond haired, powerfully built, light skinned, could not be starker.

Perhaps you should get your girlfriend an innertube patch and a couple more pounds of air.

I DO look like a Skarsgård, but unfortunately Stellan , not Alexander or Bill. Tvärr!

Stellan’s a decent enough looking guy. (His sons wouldn’t look good if he had bad genes.)

If you look like Stellan at Stellan’s age you’re doing fine. We’re not talking Tim Walz here.

Femke Bol’s finish in the 4×400 mixed relay was jaw-dropping.

after decades of this stuff it’s impossible not to conclude the women track runners and jumpers are much better looking on average than the women in any other sport. even a lot of the sisters look good.

All except the 10,000 and marathon. Super long distance runners all look sick. But, yes, lady sprinters and mid distance runners have marvelous physiques, I could admire them all day long.

And her boy friend is a negro from the Dutch Carribean.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/us-sports-news-olympics-news-track-and-field-news-who-is-lieke-klaver-boyfriend-all-about-netherland-track-star-dating-life/

Well, we can’t have Northern Europeans going around being more beautiful than everyone else….
get Babs Spectre on the horn and get me some more Africans up there!

The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils. In seeking to do so, it encounters obstacles which are deeply rooted in human nature.

The critical duty of Western leaders was/is to stand up to the anti-nationalist, minoritarian, immigrationist goons. And they failed to do so.

It is indescribably sad what has happened to these European nations. The US was always going to have its diversity “issues”–1619 and all that. But the US should have served as a warning about “diversity”. Any European–any true stateman–looking upon the US, should have been relentless in not to allowing immigration goons to create that in their own land.

Powell:

That tragic and intractable phenomenon which we watch with horror on the other side of the Atlantic but which there is interwoven with the history and existence of the States itself, is coming upon us here by our own volition and our own neglect. Indeed, it has all but come. In
numerical terms, it will be of American proportions long before the end of the century.

But no. The sewer pipe of minoritarian propaganda from the US, the graspy, greedy cheap labor goons, “the economy” goons, the virtue signalers, the slimy vote bankers … all the anti-nationalist, immigrationist goons won the day. And “Enoch Powell was right” as we see in the UK today.

And the destruction of the West will be far, far worse than anything the Nazis or Commies or even nuclear war could have done. Unless action is taken immediately, the West–the greatest civilization the world has seen–is being murdered piece by piece and will simply cease to exist.

Wow, Gunhild could have been mistaken for James Dean’s younger sister
(“Rebel Without a Cause” was on TV last night)

All the Asian countries seem to be “allowed” to have high flight attendant beauty standards. I saw a flock of Korean fa’s pulling their suitcases (on cords) through the airport once and it took my breath away.

And speaking of Asian, not to sidetrack into an old dumb debate, but I wish I could find the chart that someone made with computer assisted drawing of the three “high types” of Korean, Japanese and Chinese women. Believe me, if you had any of these women for your wife, you wouldn’t miss your white.

greedy cheap labor goons

Stingy is a more appropriate term. Greed is common to the miserly and the spendthrift.

You know all this. Nordic people natural selection, married for physical beauty not dowry, women could divorce men on and on.

Its part of the revulsion many nordic celtic people feel when encountering the mass of humanity characterized by millenia of indiscriminate breeding and absence of natural selection.

The most beautiful young women are found at the University of Florida (but that was over 25 years ago). The most exotic women are at the Miami International Airport (but that was 30 years ago).

One has to wonder if the very unattractive names they give such stunning girls, such as Gunhild, Sigrid, Ingeborg, Gunilla, and Ulla, are meant to serve as a check on their egos.

Agree. Those names are awful. None became popular in English. Although Danish “Karen” is popular.

Speaking of mutation load,

Median Kamala Voter…

HARRIS RALLY ATTENDEE: “I am a trans man and I’m gay and I have been pregnant and had an abortion before and I don’t want to lose that.”

You can’t make this sht up 😂🤣 pic.twitter.com/7kufdAFtg5

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) August 10, 2024

…and a case of misbegottenness more by nurture than nature.

One has to wonder if the very unattractive names they give such stunning girls, such as Gunhild, Sigrid, Ingeborg, Gunilla, and Ulla, are meant to serve as a check on their egos.

To be fair, they sound better when pronounced by natives.

I agree. But it is important to heed Dr. E. Michael Jones’ warning not to let white become an identity. You can fight targeted and weaponized mass migration for what it is, without adopting an heretofore unknown identity.

Non Angli, sed angeli – “They are not Angles, but angels”, when he first encountered pale-skinned English boys at a slave market

Have your fun while you can! In just a few short months you’ll be sent to the gulag for even hinting that anyone other than Africans from south of the mason-dixon line was ever enslaved.

Algeria so proud!

Does anyone remember the character Frances Anthor in Farewell My Lovely? Well, I just saw her come out of Peet’s in Novato. Holy cow, talk about scary.

My Norwegian grandma was named Solveig. It actually doesn’t sound as bad as it looks — it’s pronounced something like “Sool-vay”. She went by Sylvia in English.

Agree. Those names are awful.

Sigrid? Ingeborg? Those are “awful” names? They don’t sound awful to me.

What’s you’re name, cat lady? I bet it sounds awful.

There are pretty girls all over the world (that includes you, the girl reading this). Just look at the Paris closing ceremony, lots of cuties even without Russia’s participation. (Russian women are not only beautiful but have great souls.)

But if there is this observation, I can provide some hypotheses.

1) Farmer size populations and good mobility with boats (less drift) with hunter-gatherer sexual mores (selection for beauty). An ideal of romantic love, instead of marriages as asset management.

2) Gender equality and a prohibition of hitting women. If there is going to be scolding and no counter to it, she should be at least something to look at. Marriage is not supportable otherwise.

3) In the movie Midsommar (to name one example) one of the characters theorized that the Vikings only brought home pretty slave girls or brides. I don’t think this has as big an effect as the previous but maybe some?

4) The theory for modern Slavic beauty, i.e. female surplus resulting from the decimation of males. Maybe there were such events in Nordic history.

Low mutational load for looks, especially among females. But what about the ‘mutational’ tendencies to swallow all kinds of looney toon liberalism? Per capita all Scandinavians, including the non-Germanic but heavily Germanic-influenced Finns, and all Anglos are prone toward bleeding heart liberalism for non-whites and non-Christians as well as inclinations to back some type of imperialist outreach to ‘prove’ their superiority.

Low mutational load? Regional evolution?

Both?

Two things:

— The Germanic peoples have had mate choice for long time. That creates more sexual selection than you’d get in the various marry-your-cousin/arranged marriage places (Semites, Indians, etc.)

— Sweden and Scandinavia in general have marginal farming environments. Not so poor as to be stuck being hunter-gatherers, enough density to have civilization and enough people/genes for selection to work on, but poor where people had to scrape by with a lot of hard work/good decision making fishing and farming. Weak/stupid genes couldn’t really hack it and would get weeded out.

Put those two together and I think you have the Scandi recipe for decent looking people.

That photo is almost 70 years old. She is still alive, but is 88 years old.

The passage of time…

I’m in!

Mongolians today have not only northern East Asian ancestry but also deep ancestry among Caucasians, most of them Turkic but also Uralics (Finns, Huns, Samis) and a few Indo-Europeans. So many Mongol women are a quite attractive blend of various ethnicities.

“the West–the greatest civilization the world has seen–is being murdered piece by piece and will simply cease to exist.”

And the Jew was happy.

“I am a trans man and I’m gay and I have been pregnant and had an abortion before and I don’t want to lose that.”

…and a case of misbegottenness more by nurture than nature.

The particular insanity is 100% nurture. But I have little doubt that the people like this deeply sucked in by trans nonsense skew heavily to having nature “issues”–bad genes, mutational load, etc. “Trans” is probably eugenic.

The real tragedy of the Parasite Party’s sexual nonsense has been its “you go girl!” propaganda suppressing the fertility of a lot of well put together white women. Fill their heads with nonsense and creating a whole lot of cat ladies–brides of the state–as its vote bank.

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Stopping the immigration insanity is always job #1. Nothing else within orders of magnitude.

But if that is ever done, the West is going to need explicitly eugenic fertility policies both for recovery and to deal with the very real issue of rising mutational load. We–pretty much every place in the world–would actually be better off with “fewer but better” people. Healthier, smarter, more conscientious, more productive.

Sadly, given that the immigration goons are running riot and the utter anti-genetic nonsense peddled by the usual suspects–your Stephen J. Gould, Richard Lewontin, etc. etc.–being established as orthodoxy, I think the civilized people most likely to get eugenic fertility policies in place and working are the Chinese.

We’re on a path of Western decline and death and the Chinese retaking their spot as the leading civilization of the world. Quite possibly–we’re coming into a very different world–the only civilization in the world.

AFAICT it’s going to take Westerners dramatically waking up, revolting–at the level of hanging the immigration/minoritarian goons from lamp posts–to give the West a chance to see this Chinese dominated future off.

Diet and exercise. Not too far from me there’s a logging town settled by Scandinavians. Go to the Walmart there and see what the American diet can do to any ethnic group. Unfortunately, I can’t look at that photo of Larking and not think of her fat American cousin with tats and purple hair.

By contrast, I went to Japan in college (late 90’s) and I swear I couldn’t find anyone that was fat or had bad skin. I’m not even into Oriental women and it seemed like virtually all of them were attractive.

My Norwegian grandma was named Solveig. It actually doesn’t sound as bad as it looks…

Soft G is a liquid Y in Swedish and Norwegian, sometimes even “liquidated”. This helps a lot. In Danish it is glottal or silent after vowels. Thus, Solveig comes out beautiful rather than ugly.

For some reason, hard G is popular in Greek girls’ names– e.g., Agatha, Agnes, Margaret. Dagny and Dagmar may look Greek, too, but are Nordic.

Do you visit or live in Europe regularly or is this related to stereotypes?

Usually, when visiting the country for a short time, you can be very confused, because people in the modern society self-sort a lot in terms of appearance, especially outside the office. Often in a fashionable bar in a city, everyone looks beautiful, while in the unfashionable hardware store everyone looks the opposite. If you visit a wealthy part of the country, people can be very different looking than in the poor part of the country.

In second world countries, this effect is often even more extreme than in the first world country. Especially in countries like Russia, where young women go to the cities and investment in their appearance is related to upward mobility.

You’ll see more good looking (although self-selected and using more beauty treatments) people in any wealthy areas of the second world countries of Europe, compared to most of Sweden. It’s because these are more unequal countries, with greater economic insecurity (so women are prioritizing appearance more in the postcommunist states than in moderate capitalist countries with social safety net like Sweden).

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Professional athletes in many sports are another selection, because they are some of the healthiest people in the world. From the view of health, they are generally some of the most beautiful people in the world.

But for female athletes, on average have a more masculine appearance than average women in many sports.

So, in the Olympics, for female athletes, they are often going to be very “beautiful” people in terms of looking like the most physically healthy people in the world, but at the same time having more masculine appearance than women in the average population.

The example of Gunhild Larking, looks unusually physically healthy which is matching their reality of professional athlete, but they also look more masculine or at least androgynous than an average women. With short hair, she could look like a young man, as their face is more masculine than most women.

The effect of the very healthy looking people who are looking on average more masculine than average, isn’t so similar to the stereotypical Hollywood concept of beauty like Marilyn Monroe, Elizabeth Taylor, Audrey Hepburn. As, our stereotype of beauty for women, was at least last century including looking more feminine than average. It’s not just about the appearance of physical health, which would be everytime going to Olympic Athletes.

Beauty, at times, may be in the eye of the beholder but more often we can all appreciate it.

There’s been a number of studies with infants showing that they prefer attractive faces and while it’s now poison to refer to race, earlier studies have confirmed that infants agree with young Steve’s observations.

In the latter, but not the former, condition the infants looked longer at the attractive faces. These findings are clear evidence that newborn infants use information about internal facial features in making preferences based on attractiveness

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/264380105_Newborn_Infants’_Preference_for_Attractive_Faces_The_Role_of_Internal_and_External_Facial_Features

Looking up the pronunciation in Icelandic, I was unable to find it, but did learn that, according to Google Translate, the accusative case in that tongue, Þolfall/tholfal, is “endurance failure”. The dative, eignarfall, is “loss of property”.

Well, we can’t have Northern Europeans going around being more beautiful than everyone else….

Or East Europeans

Olympic bronze medalist Jordan Chiles just lost her medal in gymnastics. And now people are crying “racism,” including her sister Jazmin.

She stood alongside Simone Biles and Brazil’s Rebeca Andrade for the first ever all-black podium—but the ruling was clearly nonsensical and… pic.twitter.com/DnOgJbQfXf

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) August 11, 2024

True, I don’t know how they’re pronounced.

This is unbelievable. I hope it’s not typical but I fear it’s more common than one would think. Definitely a Kamala voter. Heaven help us.

The particular insanity is 100% nurture.

IMHO, the righthand one is nature/mutational load: if trans BS didn’t exist, she would be something else defective instead. The lefthand one is nurture-fail: organically, she could have been okay, but she was miseducated into believing her life was about tattoos, piercings, and affirming trans mutants.

Yeah, we have to stop the invasion. There is nothing technically difficult about that: just stop inviting invaders. We don’t do it for same reason that we are miseducating children, involving ourselves in pointless foreign wars, doing anarcho-tyranny, and the rest of the gay race communist agenda: they’re all symptoms of the same mind-virus. Cure the mind. The body will follow.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/brushing-off-threats-and-boos-israels-7-medals-mark-its-best-ever-olympic-showing/

OT- Musk stirring the pot

https://www.politico.eu/article/elon-musk-reignites-race-row-with-scotlands-former-leader-humza-yousaf/

Elon Musk reignites race row with Scotland’s former leader Humza Yousaf

LONDON — Elon Musk branded Humza Yousaf “super-super racist,” as he continued a feud with the former Scottish leader and capped a week of beefing with British politicians.

Yousaf led Scotland as first minister between 2023 and 2024. He’s previously clashed with the X-owning billionaire — and laid into him again in recent days after Musk pushed inaccurate claims about riots that have swept Britain. Musk has meanwhile been accused by politicians of failing to tackle far-right disinformation on his platform.

Speaking at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival Thursday, Yousaf described the X owner as “one of the most dangerous men on the planet” because of his “amplification” of disinformation.

Hitting back at Yousaf’s comments Friday, the tech entrepreneur claimed Yousaf, the Scottish-born son of first generation Pakistani immigrants, “loathes white people.”

“He is super, super racist,” Musk tweeted in reply to a speech Yousaf made in 2020 about structural racism in Scotland. “Scotland gave him everything and yet he loathes white people.”

He went on to question why Yousaf hasn’t “complained” about the race of other countries’ leaders.

Yousaf, who quit as Scotland’s leader earlier this year, has been targeted with racial abuse on several occasions.

He said this week he wasn’t sure if “the future for me and my wife and my three children is going to be here in Scotland or the United Kingdom” due to anti-Muslim abuse.

Elon Musk on Hamza Yousaf … https://t.co/tmlJWGszlP

— حسن سجواني 🇦🇪 Hassan Sajwani (@HSajwanization) August 11, 2024

Lieke’s long term boyfriend is high yella.

There used to be a lot better looking people in the United States. It has gone downhill in recent decades.

High praise indeed, from one who spent his formative years among the would-be and the few actual stars of Hollywood. Well, the Swedish team can expect warm welcome from at least one Angeleno in 2028. “Noticing” has its privileges.

Jews on other hand tend to look ugly (high mutational load??)

Clearly you’ve never been to Israel. 🙂

As Milton Friedman said, to understand Israel, take any stereotype of American Jews and turn it upside-down.

I’ve long since come to the conclusion that the Dutch lack racial consciousness.

Canned fish is a delicious, cheap, and nutritious meal solution hidden by a cloud of ignorance. I know people who claim to be allergic to fish, but I suspect they just really prefer steak.

Jews …. have basically taken the Western civilization and now are clearly working hard to eliminate their main competitors (like a clever businessmen tend to operate in a competition scenario)…

Immigration is genociding the European people.

I enjoyed seeing the Dutch women on the track.

Aren’t they too old for you?

The Supreme Court needs a “god damn it, we just had this conversation” option, represented by a scowling Clarence Thomas on a front porch holding an Auto 5.

Wicked case of RBF on Gunhild there.

Stunning.

She reminds of Kristen Stewart minus the skank.

Good to see Musk pushing back!

Too old to look at? Doesn’t that generally work the other way?

Why is she wearing Radio Shack antennas on her head?

Femke Bol’s finish in the 4×400 mixed relay was jaw-dropping.

Agree. This was less interesting though in that the “Dutch” men were Africans. This is the problem with allowing “diversity”, once you do, you’re stuck.

But yeah, that finish with her running past all the black girls was hilarious. I wasn’t quite out of my chair yelling “white power!” … but close.

Here’s the video for the US folks under the NBC zone:

Other Ways Are Possible! Sweden Now Has Net Emigration, Led by Departing Iraqis, Somalis, and Syrians

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/08/10/other-ways-are-possible-sweden-now-has-net-emigration-led-by-departing-iraqis-somalis-and-syrians/

Diet and exercise. Not too far from me there’s a logging town settled by Scandinavians. Go to the Walmart there and see what the American diet can do to any ethnic group.

Pretty much this.

Americans are hideously fat. Both males & females. That’s the main reason why Scandinavians, and to some extent all Euros (except the British), look notably better than Americans.

90% of the physical attractiveness disparity between Americans and Euros can be explained by obesity.

Interestingly, Euros don’t even exercise vigorously or attempt to eat healthy. They just walk a lot (instead of taking the car), eat moderate portion sizes, and consume foods with minimal sugar & added unnatural substances. Americans are far more likely to lift weights, do challenging exercises (Crossfit, P90X, etc.), and have special diets (low-carb, keto, etc.) with macro-counting.

Europe seems to have more of a ‘normal’ distribution of attractiveness. In America, the distribution is skewed between fitness & macro-counting fanatics (10%) and obese whales (40-45%), with a much smaller ‘middle’ than the European Union.

By the way, here’s something that you guys might enjoy.

Alica Schmidt is the most beautiful athlete i ever seen. pic.twitter.com/OBPFyZU4gr

— Pharaoh of X (@PharaohOfX) August 9, 2024

Gunhild is still with us at age 88, lets hope she had a volleyball team of children.

…not solid, but the search bots seem to think–she had no children at all.

Two Nordic Olympians from the 1930s were Sonja Henie and Babe Didrikson, the former from Oslo and the latter born to immigrants in Texas. Neither had any children, but Babe was one of seven, while Sonja was an only child.

California bid for both 1932 Games but lost the Winter ones to Lake Placid. Competing for Great Britain at the L.A. Games was Godfrey Rampling, whose daughter Charlotte you may have seen at the movies. When he died at age 100 in 2009, he was Britain’s oldest living Olympian.

Charlotte has two children and, apparently, four grandchildren as of 2017, so the Olympic Rampling genes live on. Though Godfrey’s grandsons are in show biz, not athletics. Her only sibling shot herself after giving birth prematurely, but I can’t find the nephew’s name, let alone fate.

As for biting medals, Charlotte has this to say:

He was an athlete and went on to win gold in the 4x400m relay at the 1936 Berlin Olympics. After the war, finding himself broke, he tried to sell his medal but discovered it was made of steel. Hitler had palmed them off with fakes.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/jun/09/charlotte-rampling-i-cannot-explain-it-but-i-have-never-visited-the-cemetery-where-my-sister-is-buried
https://www.bigissue.com/culture/tv/charlotte-rampling-im-now-wise-woman/
https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/authors/profiles/article/73649-charlotte-rampling-looks-at-her-life.html

A high powered rifle and or a large caliber handgun are poor choices for home defense. Too much penetrating power with the possibility of loved ones occupying adjacent rooms protected only by sheets of drywall. Hell even next door neighbors are at risk. A short barrel 12 gauge with medium sized bird shot is the way to go, IMO. Better odds at hitting your target without collateral damage.

We can report three more great-grandchildren for 1936 gold (-plating) medalist Godfrey Rampling, which makes seven in all:

En el libro tampoco menciona a Carlos, su sobrino: Rampling me explica que hoy está casado, que tiene tres hijos y está al frente de la hacienda familiar.

https://www.abc.es/xlsemanal/personajes/charlotte-rampling-leyendas-del-cine-charlotte-rampling-actriz-de-hollywood-cine.html

That’s a TFR of 1.75.

Let me guess… Rachel, Sarah, Jennifer, Judith… those are all beautiful name, amirite?

This simply is not true: in America it’s historically very much not true, and in Europe, as the mudslide continues unchecked, a “white” identity will become a necessary backup to a French, or Polish, or Italian one. In a land where a coal-black got-here-last-Tuesday Rwandan is absurdly described as a “Welshman”, a white identity will be necessary as the one thing that can’t be faked or papered over, except by Jews when it suits them.

In America there has always been a known, but slowly and gradually expanding white identity. At first it meant sturdy, clean-living Protestant yeomen and their upper crusts, but as the alien Catholics started acting more “white” and even the Jews hitched a ride on the White Express, the set expanded. In addition to the physical traits and Western cultural and religious affinities, there is a certain behavior set which defines “white culture”: one time some brain-dead leftist schmo accused me of “white privilege” and I said, “What — you mean I know who my father was?”

I grew up in a working-class white-ethnic urban enclave: Irish, Italians, Sicilians (there’s a difference), Greeks, Germans, Scandinavians, Syrian Christians. Hmm, who was missing? We all knew which neighborhoods we couldn’t wander into and why, and we knew who wasn’t welcome on our turf and why. We kept vague residual echoes of an ethnic identity: a Greek diner, an Irish pub, an Italian pizzeria. But it was superficial, and slight: OTOH we all had one thing in common, and we knew damn well what it was.

Not selection pressure but good diet.
War was everywhere, in Africa, in India, in Pacific

I remember the Swedish bikini team.

There are studies showing that people with blonde hair have the most hair follicles, in general the blonde hair being the thinnest/finest. I am surely not the first to have wondered if the more densely-growing, fine blonde hairs provide better insulation. On a related note, it would be interesting to know if there is much variation in balding across the European nations. Did Sweden select for blondes who don’t bald?

Charlotte Rampling skyclad in the movie Swimming Pool, filmed when she was in her mid-50’s.
Yes, you would.

https://www.celebritymoviearchive.com/tour/movie.php/26805

Whether it’s fair or not, the pretty people usually end up on top.

Yes, looks are so underrated. I know that seems impossible, but they are.

The hottest group of women I can recall seeing was in 2008 or 2009, when I was working in Manhattan. Seven flight attendants for Uzbekistan Airways were on the sidewalk outside the Hotel Pennsylvania (RIP) about to board a shuttle bus presumably taking them to JFK Airport. What made it remarkable is that the seven of them represented three completely different ethnic/racial groups: three were dusky Middle Eastern-looking brunettes, two were pale blondes, and two were East Asian in appearance. While some might have been foreigners it’s actually possible all seven were Uzbek, given the diversity of that country’s population.

I enjoyed seeing the Dutch women on the track.

Aren’t they too old for you?

I make allowances for the athletically fit.

I used the example of Sweden to disprove Edward Dutton recently. Ed is a guy that has a profound hatred for Leftists, and one of his many hypothesis is that liberalism and other even more radical derivations of Left-wing ideology, like progressivism and Marxism are the result of high mutational load.

It’s interesting because mutational load is best assertained by analysing it’s effects on the most conserved evolutionary traits. Because, the more conserved a trait is, the more polygenic it tends to be.

I remembered years ago when some researchers were tying to find genetic variants that relate to intelligence. Putting aside the fact that “intelligence” is a poorly defined attribute and that attempts to measure it on a scalar basis is, at best, a concept of dubious validity, i remember what I said to myself:

“Finding individual genetic variants with large efects(high odds-ratio) and with low P-values on intelligence is NOT what you would expect from Darwin’s Theory of Evolution.”

What I meant by this thinking here is that “intelligence” would obviously involve attributes from several areas of the brain, which involves roughly 20% of the entire genome + genes that are not even direclty involved in brain formation. for instance, genes related to bone formation would have an impact, allowing for a larger sjull case and more neurons. Or, for a greater amount of conversion from alpha-linolenic acid into DHA(docosohexaenoic acid), which is extremely important for the formation of the brain.

The point here is that extremely broad traits such as “intelligence” and “longevity” are likely to be *polygenic* .That is, influenced by millions of nucleotide variations across thousands of genes

The less broad and more specific a trait is, the more you would expect fo find single-nucleotide variants with large impact. Consider height or eye color. All the growth of the Human body is controlled by roughly only 50 genes, and of these, about 10 are the most important, with 3 of them being fundamental. Namely, GH1, GHR(growth hormone receptor). For instance, Laron Dwarfism can be caused by loss-of-function of just one of these genes, namely the groth hormone receptor gene. Likewise, gigantism can be caused by overactivation of only 1 of these genes before the growth plates close, the GHRH gene(growth hormone releasing hormone gene). Only a few genes regulate growth and these are known as pro-oncogenes(cancer-causing), because over-activation of these genes lead to unctrolled cell division which is the hallmark of cancer.

Another example of a single gene causing a single disease would be Huntington’s Disease. It is caused by excessive TAGA repeats at the promoter region downstream of the exon 1 of the HTT gene. The HTT gene produces the protein huntingtin. This protein becomes higly neurotoxic and destroys neurons when an excessive amount of polyglutamine repeats is expressed.

Specific diseases and conditions are caused by specific genes. The etiology is clear, and the pathology is well-characterised. “Broad” traits that most likely depend on hundreds or thousands of genes functioning properly, like longevity or intelligence.

You know when a trait is “broad” and who’s quality of expression is likely not circumscribed to be determined by a few genes but to many when any of segments of these genes or even the entire gene is unlikely to affect the expression of the trait much since there is redundancy in function of many genes involved in doing more-or-less the same thing.

It turned out that my thinking was correct. We now know that, sadly, intelligence is one of the most polygenic traits known, which at least a third is not half of all our 20,000 genes contributing.

Highly polygenic traits are *conserved* . “Conserved” in the sense that, because these traits are affected by so many different single nucleotide variants across so many genes, they tend to evolve slowly with little variation over time because even a catastrophic change to a single cucleotide position or even entire gene due to mutation will have only a minimal impact on it.

You might, for instance, have thousands of nucletide bases that code for a larger brain, but then you have a mutated variant in a gene related to osteoblast formation that doesn’t allow your brain to grow due to a limitation of the skull size. But then, there are other genes related to the size of the dura matter that allows for further growth, but you still end up with 0.001% less brain growth than you would otherwise due to that one truncated gene variant. Basically, tiny, TINY effects from single variants.

Going back to Edward Dutton, the best way, therefore, the ascertaining mutational *load*(key word:”load) is look at polygenic traits, the more polygenic the better.

The problem with his thinking is that white liberals don’t seem to be demonstrate profound deficits in the more polygenic traits like longevity and intelligence. White liberals tend to be healthy and long-lived, even if not the most physically vigorous group of people in terms of athletic ability. It’s also a conservative classic to call liberals “libtards”, but there is actually a considerable amount of evidence that white gentile liberals tend to be enriched with a lot of the mental traits associated with intelligence.

The one point he might have is regarding bodybuild. White liberals, both the men and the women, tend to be somewhat more gracile in frame. There isn’t a difference in height, though,. For instance, many people remarked about how tall and blond the settlers in northern California and the northwest Pacific coast were. They came from New England, and are the classic white liberal diaspora.

Sweden is another example, of course. There is not more liberal/progressive white nation than Swedes. Swedes are basically a bunch of white Libs. Here is a heart-breaking story of an American man in Sweden. “I got rejected by a Swedish Giga-Stacy”:

Also, unlike intelligence and longevity, physical attractiveness is not rhe best gauge of mutation load. It’s a good gauge, but not the best. Why? Because there is a component of *sexual selection* in attractiveness, which is not polygenic but monogenic. for instance, eye color is determined by just 1 gene, the MC1R gene. Beauty is genetic, but not entirely.

Consider male supermodel, Francisco Lachowski, considered one of the best-looking men to ever live. He scored a 9.5/10 in facial attractiveness on the PSL scale, which measures a person’s attractiveness based on the ancient greek’s “golden mean” of balance, propoortion and symmetry. He scored the highest that any person ever has. Statistically, the probability of having a 9.5/10 face is less than 1 in 100 million people! He also stands 194 cm tall, or 6’4 1/2. The statistical probabilty of having his face with his height is less than one-in-a-billion. And yet, if you look at his parents, they are nothing special except for a few things. His father is a giant at 2 meters tall, but average face. His mom is above average in looks with a bony face, but just above average. Nothing special.

https://youtube.com/shorts/YS6R368B1eU?si=WPoug2dMXIJs7uY2

Holy cow, talk about scary.

You should sue.

I was wondering if she had any granddaughters as AnotherSon is still looking.

Is he worried bringing girls home because he thinks you would scare them off?

W.E.I.R.D.

“The historian Will Durant thought our preference for fair-skinned, fair-haired people sprang from the Germanic conquest of the western Roman Empire…”

The Greeks and Romans thought blond hair was funky (and “bimbo-ish”) long before the Germans and Normans took over the empire:

When blond hair dye first came into being with the Roman people it was used only by the Roman prostitutes, who, by law, were forced to have blond hair to set them apart from the rest of the women. Later this practice was tossed to the wind as blond colours became associated with the exoticness of the Gauls. Red and black hair dyes were later by far the most popular in Rome.

Cf.

Suetonius, in his Lives of the Twelve Caesars, said that Augustus had “subflavum” hair, i.e. yellow-ish or dirty-blond (“flavum” being golden-haired).

Wendy, you are apparently attracted to ‘exoticism’—aren’t you a professional expert on the rather ugly Maya? Aesthetically, Meso-American genetics (and art) are terrible.

Or East Europeans

Most beautiful current Olympian, willowy lankster division:

Mutation load is just ad-hoc. Another more validated hypothesis is nutrition and lack thereof . As illustrated in Dr Western Price’s Nutrition and Physical Degeneration nutrition deficiencies
wreck great changes in a single generation.
This is shown with photographic examples from worldwide.

Breitbart featured a number of stories about Paraguay’s naughty swimmer, Luana Alonso.

https://www.the-sun.com/sport/12041209/olympic-swimmer-instagram-luana-alonso-quits-paris-2024/

Alas, modern Swedish women tend to be on the fat side and to display masculine features. And I’m talking about the natives. 1984 was 40 years ago, Steve. The world has changed, not for the better.

It might be worth quoting myself here about the Swedes: https://www.unz.com/isteve/swedish-mothers-vs-italian-mothers/#comment-6282727

There is a weird fetish about Swedish women in this country. I think much of it is due to clever marketing (like “The Swedish Bikini Team,” which wasn’t Swedish at all, but an American beer marketing campaign: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Bikini_Team ).

I first visited Scandinavia in the early 1990’s (had a female Swedish friend – not a girlfriend, just a friend – and I went to visit her and her family). Even though the Swedish GDP per capita at the time had nearly doubled in the preceding decade, I recall not being impressed by it – much of Sweden looked surprisingly grey and drab (and after I visited it, Sweden fell into a deep recession, from which it took some years to recover). Things have changed since then, of course, and Sweden is much richer and even the architecture is more vibrant looking now (although, unfortunately, so is the population – more VibrantTM).

And, yes, I did see attractive young women in Sweden (my friend was quite pretty as well), but college age females were pretty attractive in many other places too. They didn’t look especially more attractive than Americans and other Europeans of similar age and background in those days. From what I could tell back then (and since), older Swedish women looked a lot like older American and other European counterparts – for example, this was (is) probably typical:

In general, I found them much less elegant than Italian women I saw when I visited that country. Even though, aesthetically I prefer the blonde, blue-eyed look, Italian women were, on average, more fashionable and, dare I say, sexier than Swedish women. They oozed a certain femininity that the Swedish women seemed not to display.

The most physically attractive concentration of women I ever saw was at a Russian bar in Brighton Beach in the 1980’s – it was full of exquisite-looking young Eastern European women. Alas, my friends and I were promptly thrown out in short order (we were underaged).

You’ll see more good looking (although self-selected and using more beauty treatments) people in any wealthy areas of the second world countries of Europe, compared to most of Sweden. It’s because these are more unequal countries, with greater economic insecurity (so women are prioritizing appearance more in the postcommunist states than in moderate capitalist countries with social safety net like Sweden).

Do most Eastern Euro women prioritize appearance, or just a select group of ambitious women in the wealthier urban districts? Is their purpose to find a foreign man (American, Western European, etc.) with money?

“blacks hate scandis”

blacks hate everyone, including blacks!

I’ve seen stories like this about Canada too. A reporter interviews Indians returning to India. But look at the numbers: a few dozen or even a few hundred leave, millions have arrived. The fraction leaving is minuscule.

Maybe it’s different for Sweden. The site you linked to is so littered with ads I didn’t want to stay on it.

Russian women are not only beautiful but have great souls.

LOL.

4) The theory for modern Slavic beauty, i.e. female surplus resulting from the decimation of males. Maybe there were such events in Nordic history.

As I recall, up through the 80s, the Slavs had no particular reputation for beauty. They were often perceived as plain, boring, and even frumpy. However, after the fall of the Soviet Union, lots of Slavic women embraced makeup & fashion, which had been denied to them under Communism. Many began to end up in places like NYC and LA, working as ‘models.’

By the 2000s, the stereotypes of the Slavic beauty and the Slavic ‘femme fatale’ had become widespread… ‘Natalia’ and ‘Natasha.’

Quite a change.

“nutrition deficiencies wreck great changes in a single generation.
This is shown with photographic examples from worldwide.”

Probably true, yet there are always wild cards. If you read “Let Us Now Praise Famous Men” about white Southern sharecroppers in the Depression, there is a photo essay by Walker Evans at the front. As expected, severe malnutrition and overwork has ruined the faces of most of the adults and children: but there are a few strikingly beautiful, I daresay angelic instances of both. It’s kind of weird to see dirt-poor malnourished farmers who look like male models or a children’s clothing catalogue. You see the same thing in photo essays about war-torn Afghanistan (is there any other kind of Afghanistan?).

I’m referring to AnotherDad‘s stated fondness for 16-year-old girls.

Yeah, Nordic women are overrated. If you’re looking for blond, slim, feminine women, you’ll find them across the Baltic Sea, in Lithuania, Latvia, Poland, Ukraine or Russia and Belarus ( if you’re willing to break the neocon sanctions).
BTW, Finland, technically, that is, in geographical terms ( and culturally) is not a Scandinavian country, and has far better looking women than Sweden.
Feminism, liberalism and obesity have ruined Scandinavian women.

What are the possible causes of obesity? It surely has a genetic component since Northern Europeans are fatter that Southern, Central and Eastern Europeans. ( the UK is the fattest country, followed by Germany and Scandinavian countries).
Also, is this obesogenic environment also responsible for the large increase in myopia and other visual defects in kids and young people?

An elongated physique is attractive…

Let’s compare, and let the readers be the judge…

“Cold eliminates many diseases, restricts food abundance, and forces discipline and industry on the slowest individual.”

Like everything, up to a point. That point being the Arctic Circle. Beyond that plain survival is a full time job, and some of the adaptations (like lending your wife out) aren’t good when the guests aren’t of your race.

I read a book by a polar Brit who went round the Greenland coast by boat to buy sledge dogs for the Antarctic, and he mentioned how

a) the Danish crew enjoyed the local girls

b) the features of the people along the coast were changing, because of a)

I don’t think fondness for 16-year-old girls is a solitary taste. Were you never 16?

“The M-4/AR-15 goes beyond self-defense: it is a weapon of war.”

How so? It’s a low-powered semi-automatic rifle. Good enough to shoot deer up to 150 yards away.

“My home defense is thus: 12 GA Mossberg pump”

I was really pleased with my Benelli M2 semi-auto 12 gauge, until, standing at the end of my drive way, looking across the street at my neighbor’s house 150 yards distant, I had the thought “If he has an AR, I am f***ed”.

[I got my own AR/M4 the next year. Lots of firepower in a small package. I told a coworker “Every family should have one.” He replied “Every family does”.]

I would have LOL, but I don’t want to encourage this kind of humor. {titter}

Why don’t you direct your comment to Reg, who made the original comment, you nasty troll?

The M-4/AR-15 goes beyond self-defense: it is a weapon of war. To be carried by Tim Walz in a combat zone.

LOL. Tim Walz may have never served in a combat zone, but he certainly created plenty of them – downtown Minneapogodishu chief amongst them.

A short barrel 12 gauge with medium sized bird shot is the way to go, IMO.

This implies that you have to use it in order to achieve the intended effect (i.e., scaring the bejeebus out of a home invader and getting him to surrender or flee). Most home invaders are going to get the hell out of there once a gun is pointed at them. Managing a handgun while wandering around a house looking for an intruder is much easier than managing a 12 gauge.

“His momma call him Cassius, so I’ll call him Cassius!”

Interesting essay. And I relate to a lot of it. But I think the operative words are “white identity … will become a necessary (emphasis added).”. I. e., it’s a new thing. Therefore it’s going to be very weak and ill-defined for a long time. And not as sharp a tool in the drawer as other identities. And as we saw in Charlottesville (and its legacy continues unabated), if you identify as white you have ZERO constitutional rights in the face of Jewish media and Jewish LAWFARE. So it’s just dumb when you have these other tools. It doesn’t mean you can’t fight anti-whiteness. Where in Catholic social teaching does it say “love they neighbor … the only exception is targeting his community and his race for obliteration … that’s completely OK”?

If you can imagine a different dispensation of history whereby blacks were clean-living, mild-tempered and sat around all day sewing the Bayeux Tapestry (and it’s possible since they are beings with free-will) you will notice that black identity would have as strong a game as white, pace the pigmentation.

Just to repeat myself, it’s not like Stellan looks like Rondo Hattan…

Midsommar was a jewish concoction, so be parsimonious with what you believe.

My memories of the Paris Olympics will, I regret to say, include athletes swimming in the filth-choked Seine and that lewd Papa Smurf waggling his dong on camera.

My online Swedish teacher is in her mid to late 70s- still attractive; in the 70s she was a stewardess for Pan Am; who I’m guessing had the same standards as those Asian airlines do. I’d love to see a picture of her back in her salad days… but I’m too polite to ask. Not so polite as to not speculate in an anonymous online forum, however…

Oh well. De gustibus non est disputandum…

I am old enough to remember when US airlines had nice looking FAs. Now it’s dumpy middle aged women, POCs, and poofters.

Mackubin Owens calls Tim Walz a “Blue Falcon”.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/08/guest-column-mackubin-owens-wim-walz-blue-falcon.php

https://www.operationmilitarykids.org/blue-falcon-meaning/

If some popular YouTube videos are correct, China has demographic problems that will derail any world leadership.

Quite astonishing how modern life has derailed the rather strong instinct to curate future people. That instinct is heartily on display at the local University, where it seems every talk starts with: “I admit that I am on stolen land, and I look forward to a glorious, proper future where the entire North American continent will be turned back to genetically pure Indigenous native tribes; the rest of us will be pruned from the tree of life.”

You’d think some of that instinct would apply to their own people.

My latest heuristic is that modern life has made us a big, fat, happy leisure class that has embraced the conspicuous consumption of consuming our genetic heritage.

I am old enough to remember when US airlines had nice looking FAs.

Stewardesses.

Now it’s dumpy middle aged women, POCs, and poofters.

In the Teamsters union. At least they were at Northwest.

It seems to be a uniquely American thing. Has anyone encountered this on a non-US carrier?

Interesting essay. And I relate to a lot of it. But I think the operative words are “white identity … will become a necessary (emphasis added).”. I. e., it’s a new thing. Therefore it’s going to be very weak and ill-defined for a long time. And not as sharp a tool in the drawer as other identities. And as we saw in Charlottesville (and its legacy continues unabated), if you identify as white you have ZERO constitutional rights in the face of Jewish media and Jewish LAWFARE. So it’s just dumb when you have these other tools. It doesn’t mean you can’t fight anti-whiteness. Where in Catholic social teaching does it say “love they neighbor … the only exception is targeting his community and his race for obliteration … that’s completely OK”?

If you can imagine a different dispensation of history whereby blacks were clean-living, mild-tempered and sat around all day sewing the Bayeux Tapestry (and it’s possible since they are beings with free-will) you will notice that black identity would have as strong a game as white, pace the pigmentation.

(sorry I accidentally had replied to myself – MOD can delete previous)

I was really pleased with my Benelli M2 semi-auto 12 gauge, until, standing at the end of my drive way, looking across the street at my neighbor’s house 150 yards distant, I had the thought “If he has an AR, I am f***ed”.

Don’t know your neighbor, of course, but I don’t think invasions by the neighbors are typically what is contemplated in home defense scenarios. Unless you live in Detroit or something like that?

The Regents, huh? Never heard of them. They look like a low-rent Human League. They sound pretty awful too.

If some popular YouTube videos are correct, China has demographic problems that will derail any world leadership.

They’ve got people to burn. They’ll do just fine. And they aren’t hobbled by the fashionable and ridiculous notions that hobble the Gay American Empire.

Cool pictures, bro.

the intended effect (i.e., scaring the bejeebus out of a home invader and getting him to surrender or flee)

Are you sure that’s the intended effect? Would you want a home invader to flee, or be later released by a judge?

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Tim Walz may have never served in a combat zone, but he certainly created plenty of them –

Walz doesn’t get credit for that. He was still playing soldier– in Nebraska– in the Murderapolis days of the mid-’90s. Though the riots did happen on his watch. Those were domestic.

downtown Minneapogodishu chief amongst them.

When the Mogadishans displaced the previous residents of the McKnight Towers— the “Crack Stacks”– the incidence of crime went down. By quite a bit. The unsubsidized upper floors, desirable for their views, became fashionable again. The lobby had become alien, for sure, but now passable.

Tight families will do that. As for Ilhan, we’ll see tomorrow. Her last primary was close. She’s an outlier anyway.

Walz may be guilty of something else:

The Minnesota GOP and Republican National Committee are demanding an investigation after a noncitizen came forward claiming he received a primary ballot in the mail without registering to vote.

In what was described as “potentially not an isolated incident,” a noncitizen, lawfully present in Minnesota, reported to the state Republican Party that he did not register to vote, or request a ballot, yet is currently on the Minnesota voter roll and received a primary ballot in the mail. The individual claimed he does not know how the ballot was sent and is concerned it may affect residence or future citizenship eligibility.

Minnesota GOP demands probe after noncitizen claims receiving primary ballot without registering to vote

Give this snitch citizenship immediately! He’s our kind of guy.

Minnesota allowed non-citizens to vote upon applying for citizenship until 1898, as did many interior states at the time. The intent was to attract the right kind of immigrant, industrious, prosperous, and honest. Needless to say, northeastern states taking in “huddled masses” were having none of it.

Today, it’s different. The quality of immigrant has taken a dive.

Speaking about heritable traits…

https://au.ruli.com/article/why-are-swedish-women-beautiful

Yes, by 1989 Pan Am “girls”were dumpy.

>mixing, with Danes

Doing it right.

Obviously the correct answer is a Watchtower Model 15 with a Crye Six12 (and laser/flashlight foregrip, and ACOG coordinated with the laser).

China used to have problems – big ones, when I was young, but I’ve been hearing how China’s in difficulty – ghost towns or whatever – for 20 years now.

I do wonder if there’s a good living to be made telling Americans comforting tales about China crashing.

My personal encounter with the largest mass of beauty in one place was when a group of Singapore Airlines flight attendants arrived at the security checkpoint at SFO while I was in line. Just wow.

I’ve sadly never been on Singapore, but always heard good things about it.

The flight attendant thing depends a great deal upon what an airline is “allowed” to do. Late 90s I was on a domestic flight in India to Bangalore on newish private airline–Jet Airways–ramping up. The plane was a fresh from the factory 737NG. The four stews were all pleasant and very attractive. The “ugliest” merely had an average face, huge breasts and nice curves. The 2nd prettiest could plausibly have been a Bollywood actress. The prettiest looked like she should be the Indian contestant in one of Donald Trump’s Miss Universe competitions.

In contrast, my international flight in a few days earlier from Tokyo to Delhi was on government run Air India. The flight attendants were a bunch of unpleasant, periodically just rude, bulky 50ish camp guard types. And there was a bunch of worn and broken stuff in the cabin. (The one consolation, a clear day and I got to see Everest.)

Once upon a time, even US airlines had freedom to hire and fire stewardesses. And they were cute.
They would hire then at 20 and retire them when they married. And they had a weight requirement. It was “see the world” gig for an attractive young woman before marriage and family. (Perhaps even a “meet a well heeled husband” gig.) Which makes a lot of sense, because it is a crappy job for a mom–two or three nights away from your kids every week.

But that all–sanity–went away with feminism and unionization. I flew a lot of Frontier from the teens through the–the golden age of air travel!–pandemic. Some of the stews they hired on–LOL.

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Most interesting flight attendants I had: Was on a Northwest flight from Amsterdam back to Seattle a few months after 911. As we were at the gate four tall and very muscular white guys–who looked like they’d been college linebackers–showed up. They loitered around for a few minutes then were escorted onto the plane. Those four guys and a few girls were our “flight attendants”. And yes, they actually did do the aisle and hand me my dinner tray.

I had noticed at the gate that there was one of those white muzzie convert types on our flight–had the cap, the robe, the beard and a brown wife and kid in tow. A few months later reading the Seattle Times, sure ‘nuf this guy’s pic is there. The feds were indicting him for some sort of terrorism adjacent stuff.

It’s a new world, so perhaps someday I’ll board a flight and some of the stews will be replaced by a security team of black, trans, they/thems. as I’d been flagged as a “security risk” for reading Sailer. Heck, maybe it’s already happened … how would you know anymore?

The ashkenazi, not the mediterranean ones but i bet Israel attracted lots of half slavic jews and the most conservative, more likely to have good looking or to maximize it for social (and sexual) purposes.

On avg, it’s obvious there are good looking joons but not in the same proportion as the Nordics.

Armenoid subrace + selecting for highly creative, clever ones (high mutational load) + high levels of endogamy

Even the ashkenazi cognitive profile (umbalanced one) has been found more common people with mental disorders like bipolar disorder.

Was always a fan of this homegrown athlete:

Why, whatever could you mean???

Yeah, Nordic women are overrated. If you’re looking for blond, slim, feminine women, you’ll find them across the Baltic Sea, in Lithuania, Latvia, Poland, Ukraine or Russia and Belarus

Years ago, my wife and I watched a short documentary about mail order brides from Russia. One of the women running a dating agency for foreign men and Russian women was a Russian expat living in the U.S. When asked what made Russian women so attractive compared to American or British women, she responded with something like:

“Actually young American and British girls are just as pretty as Russian girls. The difference is that Russian girls as they grow up put much more into appearance than American and British girls. They stay thin and they never leave the house unless they are wearing full makeup, hair done, and wearing a dress. Even to run to the grocery store. Now that I’ve been living in America, I sometimes find – to my horror – that I throw on sweat pants in a hurry, no makeup or hair done, and drive to the grocery store. I don’t look as good as I used to in Russia.”

And this was years ago. Today, the obesity, the tattoos, and general lack of grooming and putting on a pretty (forget about elegant) appearance have gotten much worse in the U.S. It’s not that Russian women (or Swedish ones) are genetically more attractive due to “low mutational load” or some such pseudo-scientific nonsense. It’s because the rest of the world has gotten richer and the women in some of those country have stayed (still) feminine while women in the West, especially the Anglosphere, are increasingly infected with a bizarre ideology that valorizes ugliness and lack of femininity.

Now, to be fair, it’s the same with men. When I go to certain parts of Europe or East Asia, I note that men are generally not obese and try dress in a stylish manner. Contrast to the U.S. where – even in affluent areas – men dress and act like slobs. Of course, the difference is that, traditionally in the sexual market, men’s status was judged on their career success and women by their beauty, so men have always been less “into looks” than women. But still, when you look at the photographs and video footages from the 1950’s and 60’s America (or even the 1980’s), the collapse in standards of appearance is shocking. Priests shouldn’t have to repeatedly admonish their parishioners, “Please let’s dress our ‘Sunday best’ for the Lord. Please let us not come to Mass in t-shirts or shorts.”

I agree with most of what you said . Except staying thin is not as easy as it sounds. It’s not like dressing pretty or acting in a ladylike way. For some reason, American women have gotten fatter. It’s got to be the food or a tendency among a subset of the population, of North Western origin. Samoans are prone to obesity too. Could it be partly genetic? ( And black women are even fatter than white women in America).

While she looks more feminine than Gunhild Larking (who could look like a young man, with short hair), she is still a little more masculine than average women.

It’s an example, of even the most physically healthy people in the world (Olympic athletes) are not looking like the kind of people that was historically viewed as romantic ideals in Western culture.

As, the ideal of romantic beauty, was a little disconnected from just the dimension of physical health. Although, perhaps in the 21st century, the modern beauty ideal is becoming more androgynous and related to fitness and health.

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In the 20th century, the beauty ideal for women, was usually women who were more feminine than average, which is not usually associated with athletics. .

The most people in the Olympics who would look like Audrey Hepburn, are probably in events like rhythmic gymnastics, figure skating.

Except staying thin is not as easy as it sounds.

Keep your daily carb intake under 50 grams and you can eat whatever you want.

Ironic coming from a member of an institution that pretty much leads all subcategories of underage sexual relations.

Obsession about makeup, cosmetic, beauty treatment, hair salon is part of culture all over the postsoviet space.

In Russia, the beauty salon is almost the most common business in every city. There is more cultural pressure on young women in terms of appearance, compared to in the West*.

In some ways, it’s an inversion of Soviet ideals. In Western cultures like Sweden, there is lower prioritization of women’s appearance, compared to the postsoviet space.

It’s strange why the culture changed so far in this area from the Soviet norms, but the high prioritization of women’s appearance in the postsoviet space can maybe be partly related to less social safety and the high levels of wealth inequality. It reminds of Brazil and some other upper-middle income cultures.

of ambitious women in the wealthier urban districts?

Moscow is full of “glamorous” women with millionaire fashion, quite many who will be working as mistresses in different ways. For the normal young people, there is a culture almost like Italy in terms of their obsession with strange hipster fashions. But Moscow, is not Russia.

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In normal regional megacities in Russia, women are following the normal fashions like in America, with a normal budget, but relatively more investment and strictness. For example, not going outside without layers of makeup.

There is the appearance of the young women in Novosibirsk. It’s indexed to pre-war, everywhere was playing Morgenshtern, who was going to exile in the end of 2021. And the news story, they were arrested by the police for breaking coronavirus lockdown.

People are looking nowadays more like Americans. But, they are doing a lot more effort on their appearance, wear more makeup.

And the recent popularity in Russia (I guess originally from Italy) is wearing more dark colors.

their purpose to find a foreign man (American, Western European, etc.) with money

Russia is low income, but it’s not poor. There is an unusually large number of local rich people in most cities in Russia. There is a lot of local money. It’s a situation of significant inequality in the distribution wealth.

I think this inversion of Soviet norms for beauty is partly related to the wealth inequality.

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*Excluding societies like South Korea, which are part of the Western geopolitical bloc, but which could have similar level of beauty obsession as the postsoviet space.

“It surely has a genetic component”

Not really. Western Europe and the US are subject to a worse diet and a more sedentary lifestyle. There was no obesity to speak of in those places prior to the 1950’s.

“This implies that you have to use it in order to achieve the intended effect (i.e., scaring the bejeebus out of a home invader and getting him to surrender or flee). Most home invaders are going to get the hell out of there once a gun is pointed at them. ”

You can’t speak for the intentions of home invaders, and if you choose to do so you do so at your own peril. And the intended effect is to protect one’s self and family, not concern themselves with the reactions of an intruder. AFAIC, the intruder has forfeited his well being once he enters the premises.

“Managing a handgun while wandering around a house looking for an intruder is much easier than managing a 12 gauge. ”

And I’m sure managing a squirt gun is even easier. Your logic is myopic.

Ancient crossroads allow ugly strivers to get rich and pass on their genes successfully.

If no other criteria is important, you tend to pick beauty.

American women dressed well back in the days in which they had to marry to earn a living. Now they can be a slob and still survive.

Except staying thin is not as easy as it sounds. It’s not like dressing pretty or acting in a ladylike way.

All those – staying trim or being ladylike – require proper inculcation and self-discipline.

But American society – with its love of driving everywhere and not walking and eating lots of junk food – does make it hard for ordinary people to do it.

There is no magic solution to obesity. It’s simply input vs. output and the excess becomes fat. All the various diets and compositions of food are marginal in effect. Eating less and moving more. That’s the secret behind the Japanese and the South Koreans being the least obese people in the developed world (people go on about how “processed food” is the real culprit in the West, well, Japanese and Korean diets are heavy in processed food as well).

Right. With attractive women in their 50s, 60s and even 70s, if you’re a real connoisseur of women, and they haven’t wrecked themselves with either a) too many negative emotions or b) plastic surgery… you can trace the lines back to their former beauty with little trouble.

The Beatles disagreed. Remember that line from Back in the USSR about the Ukraine girls really knock me out?

Of course it would be the boys and not the girls that got the Papist priest’s juices going 😏

I do wonder if there’s a good living to be made telling Americans comforting tales about China crashing.

There’s a guy named Gordon Chang who writes at Gatestone. He has been coasting on a book he wrote called The Coming Collapse of China. He wrote it 23 years ago in 2001.

So, maybe.

Were they counting carbs 50 or 75 years ago when obesity was rare?

Obesity simply a matter of input vs output?
And under conscious control?
Then either a person controls his inputs and outputs very precisely or gains or loses weight.

Do you really think the non-obese, the Koreans and the Japanese are controlling their inputs and outputs very precisely?
For even a 30 Cal daily mismatch makes for 1 kg of weight gain per year.

An alternative hypothesis is obesity comes from hormonal disorders.

I didnt know there was an Olympic “rape the Palestinian” category.

I’m pretty sure McCartney was just teasing Chuck Berry with that one. And Brian Wilson as well. Not to mention Kosygin and Brezhnev.

There is no magic solution to obesity. It’s simply input vs. output and the excess becomes fat.

It is really amazing to me that the readers of an HBD blog have a blind spot when it comes to this topic. They will happily shout from the rooftops that black people have a mean IQ of 85, but if you point out that different humans have different metabolisms, they will put their fingers in their ears and shout CALORIES IN, CALORIES OUT!

But it is important to heed Dr. E. Michael Jones’ warning not to let white become an identity.

The fuck? I fuckin’ love being white. I get a fuckin’ boner about being white.

It’s a lot more fun to burn calories than to count them.

Idiotic Swedish (and other) liberals digging their own grave:

https://picum.org/blog/utterly-inhumane-civil-society-reacts-to-swedish-plan-to-oblige-teachers-doctors-to-denounce-undocumented-people/

“Utterly inhumane” – civil society reacts to Swedish plan to oblige teachers, doctors to denounce undocumented people

Very good —

Thanks!

That’s a traditional Punjabi royal-concubine silver and electrum tiara, damn it.

Were they counting carbs 50 or 75 years ago when obesity was rare?

I am old enough to remember 50 years ago.
1) There was societal disapproval of being fat. You were thought a lazy slob.
2) People walked more
3) People had less money.
4) There were fewer junk foods, processed foods, fast food restaurants, and convenience stores where it was easy to buy junk food – empty calories such as soda, potato chips, etc.

The Atkins diet, which is basically low carb, has been around since the 80s, so it isn’t news.

As Al Stewart explains:

Fun fact: this song scans exactly with Esias Tegner’s poem “ Kung Karl”, referring to Charles XII.

Very few pop singers have written one song about an invasion of Russia; Al has written two, not to mention “Joe the Georgian” about Stalin.

Genes matter greatly (metabolism, lipostat, self-control) for which individual humans get obese in a modern food environment. However, the obesity epidemic is about 100% environmental, caused by said modern food environment and modern lifestyles.

I have an AR with a tighter 1:8 rifling that will handle 62 gr ammo, which is a big no-no, along with an AR, for virtually any home defense scenario you can dream up for the reasons you state. But I buy 62 gr anyway because if I’m breaking out the AR it’s because everything 100+ yards away is a target. The AR-15 is the modern day Brown Bess and in a healthy republic every household should have one. Pity we aren’t a healthy republic.

Seated Female Dignitary, Jaina Island, Yucatan, c. 900 AD

Good quote.

It’s an ancient-traditional Punjabi royal-concubine silver-and-electrum tiara, damn it.

Swedes may be a bit different from other Europeans. They have a lot of Indo-European ancestry, but they also seem to have some ancestry paternally from Scandinavian hunter-gatherers. This is detected by the fact many Swedish men have the Paternal haplotype I1, whereas most European men have the typical Indo-European types R1b or R1a.

Maybe a somewhat unique phenotype evolved in Sweden.