This goes with an article that I "Published" last week about Poland sending some " Mig 29's" to the
Ukraine as they replace their losses against the Russians.
Slovakia MiG-29s
Slovakia has become the first country to declare it has delivered
operational crewed combat aircraft to Ukraine, with the transfer of four
MiG-29s to the war-torn country.
Ukrainian pilots collected the aircraft, which had been in storage in
Slovakia since the Warsaw Pact-era fighters were withdrawn from the
Slovak Air Force inventory last summer.
Video released by the Slovak defense ministry shows the four aircraft,
all single-seaters, taxiing out and taking off on the short delivery
flight, their final destination in Ukraine unknown.
All four aircraft had their Slovak national markings painted out, but
their serials remain. Another nine aircraft are expected to follow in
the coming weeks, defense officials say.
Slovakia’s handing over of MiG-29s is the first officially declared
transfer of operational combat aircraft to Ukraine in its war with
Russia. Other nations may have made similar transfers but have not
publicly announced them.
Several countries are believed to have delivered nonoperational
airframes that could be stripped for spares. These include North
Macedonia, which delivered four Sukhoi Su-25s ground attack aircraft
from long-term storage.
“Slovakia is on the right side, and with this gesture, we as a country
have written ourselves in capital letters in modern world history,”
Slovak Defense Minister Jaro Nad said.
Poland has also declared that it will deliver its surplus MiG-29s to
Ukraine. The transfers are expected to take place shortly, if they have
not already. Warsaw has so far kept a tight lid on its defense equipment
transfers to Ukraine.
It is hoped that the fighter transfers will help bolster theUkrainian
Air Forcefighter fleet. The fleet has employed its
MiG-29s mainly for air defense duties and also in an austere destruction
of enemy air defense role, thanks to deliveries of U.S. anti-radiation
missiles.
Ukraine is ultimately seeking deliveries of Western combat aircraft such
as Lockheed Martin F-16s to try to secure air superiority over Russian
fighters and air defenses.
Slovakia plans to backfill the MiG-29s with deliveries of Block 70 F-16s
that were on order prior to the war starting, but deliveries have been
delayed.
Without a fighter aircraft to perform national air policing, protection
of Slovak airspace is currently being performed by fighters from Poland
and the Czech Republic.
I clipped this from my work email, I get information from aviation sources in my work email, they are 3rd party sources not related to my employer.
Poland will send four operational Mikoyan "Mig 29" to the Ukrainian Air
force in the “coming days” and possibly the rest of its Soviet-era
Fulcrum fleet as they are restored to combat service condition,
President Andrzej Duda said on March 16.
The announcement breaks a yearlong impasse over whether Western
governments would heed Ukrainian demands for fighters. The pending
Polish MiG-29s will provide Ukrainian Air force pilots with a familiar
fighter type with the need for little, if any, refresher
training. But the aircraft still fall short of Kyiv’s pleas forNATO-standard
fighters, such as Lockheed Martin F-16s or Fairchild Republic A-10s.
“Literally, in the next few days, we are actually handing over four
planes to Ukraine in full working order,” Duda told reporters in a joint
press conference with Czech President Petr Pavel. “The remaining planes
are currently being prepared, and will probably
be handed over successively.”
Ukraine has not reported aircraft losses during its yearlong, ongoing
war with Russia, but the government has prioritized being resupplied
with fighters for air defense and ground support operations. In
February, Ukrainian officials also called for Western
attack helicopters, such as Bell AH-1Zs and Boeing AH-64s.
For Warsaw, the donated MiG-29s will be backfilled in the Polish Air
force with 12 Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) FA-50s scheduled for
delivery later this year, Duda said. The first batch of Lot
16-configured Lockheed Martin F-35As ordered by Poland are expected
to be delivered in 2024, but the first several aircraft will likely
remain in the U.S. for several months to train pilots and maintainers.
KAI is diverting the 12 light combat fighters ordered by Poland last September from planned deliveries to the SouthKorean
Airforce. A follow-on order by Poland for 36 FA-50PLs
will be delivered after 2023 in a special configuration, with new
extended-range fuel tanks, an active electronically scanned array radar
and a high off-boresight
air-to-air missile.
Poland has about 24 MiG-29s in service, according to Aviation Week’s
military aircraft database, but many are expected to be at a low level
of combat readiness. The fleet is composed of a mix of MiG-29s ordered
by Poland in the late 1980s, and others that were
transferred from the Czech Republic in the 1990s and donated by Germany
in the early 2000s.
The Polish air force originally planned to retire the MiG-29s by 2010,
but budget shortfalls delayed orders for their replacement for more than
a decade.
But the country’s leaders have struggled with the decision to donate the
fleet to Ukraine. In the first two weeks of the war, Poland proposed
handing over the MiG-29s to the U.S., which would then send them to
Ukraine. But the U.S. government rejected the offer.
Even last month, Duda had voiced doubts about the wisdom of sending
even an aging portion of the country’s air power capability to another
country.
“We have not enough [fighters] … and we would need many more of them,”
Duda told the BBC in an interview, noting the Polish MiG-29s have a
“very serious need for maintenance.”
But Poland’s decision to donate the MiG-29s anyway could inspire similar
moves in Eastern Europe. Slovakian Defense Minister Jaroslav Nad said
on March 9 that the time had come to decide whether to send Ukraine its
MiG-29s, which were officially retired last
August. Slovakia is not due to receive the first of 12 F-16 Block 70s
on order until March 2024.
I saw this pop up in my feed, I never heard about this and there have been "Rumors" that the Soviets have flown against the Allies in North Korean planes before but this was strictly Soviet planes, I wonder if some Soviet Aviation front commander had to go in front of "The Boss" and explain what he was thinking. Sure Stalin wanted to support Communism all over the world, but a direct clash with the West wasn't what he wanted or had in mind and to have several fighters shot down to boot especially by an inferior plane had to irk the Soviets. After reading this article, I almost think he should have gotten "The Blue Max" for what he accomplished.
Former US Navy Grumman F9F Panther pilot E Royce Williams was recently awarded the Navy Cross by Secretary of the Navy (SECNAV) Carlos Del for his solo dogfight with seven Soviet Mikoyan Gurevich MiG-15 pilots during the Korean War.
On November 18, 1952, Retd. Capt. Williams, who was then a Lieutenant in the US Navy, took off in his F9F-5 from the USS Oriskany, along with three other pilots from his fighter squadron, VF-781, into the stormy skies over the Sea of Japan.
“We started to rendezvous with each other as we climbed out of the clouds,” Williams recalled. “And that’s when we heard from the combat information center that there were inbound bogeys from the north,” he said.
US Intelligence reports assessed that the MiGs were seeking retribution for a major airstrike earlier that day (in which Lt. Williams had also participated), on an industrial complex in northeastern North Korea, only around eight kilometers from the Soviet border.
During the Korean War, Navy Lt. Royce Williams went head-to-head with 7 Soviet fighters and not only survived but left the fight with multiple confirmed kills. (Task & Purpose photo composite/Wikimedia Commons/US Navy via Twitter).
The bogeys were detected on radar roughly 80 nautical miles (148.16 kilometers) in the north-northeast. There appeared to be seven Soviet MiG-15 fighters that had taken off from a Soviet base in Vladivostok.
Soon after, Williams’ flight was directed toward the bogeys. During this time, one of the jets suffered a fuel pump problem which forced it to break off and return to the aircraft carrier bringing his wingman with him as an escort, leaving Williams and his wingman to defend the carrier against incoming MiGs.
The F9Fs had broken out in the clear at 12,000 feet and were climbing past 16,000 feet when Williams spotted the enemies’ contrails (line-shaped clouds produced by aircraft engine exhaust) some seventy kilometers from the carrier. He estimated that the Soviet fighters were flying 30,000 feet higher.
Williams kept ascending and radioed back to the Oriskany that he had sighted the MiGs split into a three-plane and a four-plane group. The CIC onboard Oriskany radioed Williams not to engage when suddenly the MiGs opened fire with their 23mm and 37mm cannon, and the battle was on!
The engagement became one of the most incredible feats in aerial combat and arguably the longest aerial duel in US military history.
Williams radioed back to the CIC, ensuring his cannons were armed and ready to fire. “We are already engaged!”
The attacking aircraft were indeed swept-wing MiG-15s, which surpassed Williams’ Panther in speed, maneuverability, climb rate, and the weapons range.
A Soviet Air Forces MiG-15UTI two-seater trainer over Duxford Air Festival 2017 (Wikipedia)
While the US Navy had scored some early kills against the MiGs, their mission had now changed to one which primarily entailed ground attack sorties.
The aerial combat was generally limited to the western half of the Korean peninsula, where the US Air Force (USAF’s) F-86 Sabres would patrol the approaches from China known as ‘MiG Alley,’ which indicated to Williams that the planes he was engaging were most likely launched from the Soviet Union.
MiG-15 (left) and F-86 Sabre (right) on display at the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center, National Air, and Space Museum (Wikipedia)
The four-plane formation of MiGs came at Williams and his wingman from the right side and opened fire. Williams pulled into a hard climbing left turn, came around on the “Number Four MiG,” and fired a short burst at its rear fuselage.
The MiG went down smoking, and Williams’ wingman followed it, leaving the former alone to face six remaining Soviet fighters.
As the two MiG formations climbed for altitude to make attacking dives, Williams found himself on the tail of one and downed the second aircraft. After this, he had to be careful while firing shots, as the Panther carried less ammunition than the MiGs.
“In that moment, I was a fighter pilot doing my job. I was only shooting what I had,” said Williams.
The remaining five MiGs now began taking turns climbing and then making passes at Williams, who could only engage a Soviet jet when it passed in front of him or rapidly turned to engage them head-on.
“I was engaged mentally at the time. A lot of it was awareness of where they were and how I had to maneuver to avoid them. They were taking turns. I decided that if I concentrated on shooting them down, I’d become an easy target. So, my initial goal was to look for defensive opportunities when they made mistakes,” he said.
F9F-5s USS Lake Champlain in 1953. (Wikipedia)
Williams then fired at another MiG, forcing it to a bank (inclined turn) out of the fight, and the wingman of that aircraft turned towards him, who fired a long burst as the two jets passed close to each other, with the Soviet plane crashing into the sea.
The three remaining MiGs of the other group easily accelerated away from Williams and gained altitude to dive for another firing run.
Williams saw their left wings emerge as they reversed course and managed to fire a burst as the MiGs flashed past but failed to score any hits. The three MiGs pulled away again to make another firing run.
Williams then saw a MiG locked on him from behind. He made a tough wings-vertical right turn with contrails spinning off his wingtip fuel tanks, and the MiG flashed past his tail.
Two F9F-2Bs over Korea. (Wikipedia)
Eventually, the enemy formations were torn apart, allowing Williams to track an individual MiG as the pilot dived in to attack. Some rounds appeared to hit, but he could not follow up as he had to avoid getting locked on from behind.
“I was firing at every MiG that passed within gun range as they came by,” said Williams.
Finally, the leader of the group and his wingman turned to the right, and Williams went after the section leader of the plane he had shot, who pulled up into the sun, and Williams lost him.
After that, Williams saw the leader and his wingman come around for a diving attack. “I turned into them and fired at the leader. He turned away, and the wingman rolled down on me, and we went past belly-to-belly as I raked him with a long burst. He caught fire and went down,” he explained.
The section leader then came around, and Williams turned into him and fired at him practically point-blank, and he also went down.
The flight leader came around again, and Williams fired, and parts came off his aircraft as he went away.
The Panther had also suffered a lot of damage of its own.
“I was turning, and one guy hit me with the 37mm cannon that knocked out my hydraulics,” said Williams.
With no ammunition and a plane that could barely fly, he turned back toward the Oriskany, using his remaining flight controls to maneuver the aircraft.
Diving low into the clouds, Williams thought of ejecting but decided to keep flying, knowing full well that in that weather, he could not have survived in the time it would have taken to find him.
Also, he found that his aircraft was uncontrollable below 170 knots which made the approach dangerous, considering the Panther’s normal landing speed was 105 knots.
A F9F lands on the USS Oriskany in November 1952 (Wikipedia)
As Williams approached the aircraft carrier, several escorting destroyers fired on him, mistaking him for an enemy aircraft.
Aboard Oriskany, the deck was ordered cleared for what was going to be a crash landing. “I told them I couldn’t fly slower than 170 knots and I could see the ship visibly speed up as she turned into the wind,” Williams said.
Eventually, the Oriskany’s captain turned the ship away from the wind, allowing Williams to make a straight-in approach.
Lt. Royce Williams observes some of the damage his F9F-5 Panther sustained in combat with 7 Soviet MiG-15s on November 18, 1952. (US Naval Institute/via Twitter)
On deck, there were 263 holes counted in Williams’ Panther, although he never saw it again.
The jet was supposedly pushed off the deck into the sea, with the gun camera footage being taken away for analysis.
Navy Admiral Robert Briscoe informed Williams, then commander of Naval Forces Far East, that while it was confirmed he had shot down three and possibly four MiGs, he was not to discuss the engagement with anyone, ever.
The US Navy and National Security Agency also did not keep a record of this incident because the US was concerned that acknowledging the incident might drag the Soviets into the Korean War.
Therefore, it was not mentioned in the declassified American archives for the Korean War.
Meanwhile, Williams continued to serve in the Navy for an additional 23 years, flying 110 sorties during the Vietnam War.
He retired in 1975 with a display case full of awards, including the Silver Star, two Distinguished Flying Crosses, and the Legion of Merit with combat “V.”
He kept the dogfight a secret from everyone, including his wife Camilla and his pilot brother, until the early 2000s, when the Korean War archives were formally declassified.
Four decades later, following the disintegration of the Soviet Union, records began to come out from Moscow confirming the aerial battle.
The dogfight was covered in a chapter in a 2014 book by Russian historian Igor Seidov, “Red Devils Over the Yalu: A Chronicle of Soviet Aerial Operations in the Korean War.”
However, according to that book, four MiGs were brought down by a single American aircraft, one was shot up and crashed while returning, and the seventh was never located.