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Isidoro4567 said: I really hate thorfinn OMG the guy didn't Win fairly using everything at his disposal just to win he became what he hates the most imo, it is good to see canute new attitude he isn't against war but against war without any good reason I feel like the author made us dislike Thorfinn for a reason. To show how disgusting a creature of revenge is like. |
| Jesus these discussion threads have blown the fuck up. Well I'm glad it's getting the love and attention it deserves, even though MAL isn't really representative of the general anime community, still good to see. Really solid episode, got some good Thorkell backstory and loved the music at the end. Canute finally dropped his nuts.They did adapt 3.5 chapters this episode which is a bit... odd since they cut out some key details, especially with Thorkell |
BetoAupatleti said: I really didn't like this episode as much as I should've. They rushed too much the source material now. A LOT of scenes were cut and some simply lost impact (like Thorfinn's counterattack). Still a good episode, but one of my least favorites of this show so far. I can't help it, I've read the manga (until chapter 43). Actually I just reread the chapters that were adapted this episode & nothing was cut out. At most the only scene that was cut was when the soldiers saw Canute on the road, there was a bit more to the encounter but it was nothing of great importance. They pretty much kept in the entire conversation, fight, even Thorfinn's final hit on Thorkell felt like the manga's where it came across as a light tap. So I don't know what your talking about, this adaptation is pretty 1:1. |
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operationvalkyri said: Your logic right there, explains perfectly, why I never liked Canute. He may have matured but in the end, he's not much above or different than those men fighting what he sees as "pointless" battles. He's strutting around like a peacock with a purpose but it's more of the same really. It's something that will get explored in the future.najumobi said: But that's the thing right? These wars in England were never violence for the sake of violence. One could look at it from the perspective of Sweyn and his noble reason of uniting the kingdom under one son thereby bringing peace to the kingdom. War is always fought for peace by at least one side, if not both. And Canute's was for peace would be no different than any other war fought on Earth.I think specifically he hates violence for the sake of violence and dying for no good reason. It seems like building a paradise here on earth is something he sees as worth dying for. It looks like Thorkell sees Thors when he looks at Canute, but I feel like Thors & Canute differ in that Thors is 100% against violence. |
Slimcoder said: Actually I just reread the chapters that were adapted this episode & nothing was cut out. At most the only scene that was cut was when the soldiers saw Canute on the road, there was a bit more to the encounter but it was nothing of great importance. They pretty much kept in the entire conversation, fight, even Thorfinn's final hit on Thorkell felt like the manga's where it came across as a light tap. So I don't know what your talking about, this adaptation is pretty 1:1. They skipped some more stuff, no full scenes but little moments and lines, like Thorkell mentioning Leif delivering Thors' head to Sigvaldi, or what he did when he woke up after being knocked out by Thors. Also Thorfinn reacting to Askeladd offering up his life to Canute, etc. Again, nothing major, but a lot of little moments and lines were lost in this episode, since it covered 3.5 chapters, the most out of any episode yet. |
MetaKite said: I guess they really skipped The Ear's head being tossed around and used at target practice last week. I just love that "I killed most of your men but let's be friends" attitude from Thorkell. I crack up each time. This surprised me because they'd kind of made him more prominent than he was in the Manga up until this point. |
almightydingus said: Shaderino said: Great episode but there is one thing bugging me, how the hell askeladd knows shogi ? i had to pause the episode and come here exactly for that reason Lol same. I was convinced I'd found something immersion breaking before I came here |
| A phenomenal episode. Askeladd did a good job of telling Thorfinn what he actually needs to do to win. Canute has some massive balls standing up to Thorkell. I like how Thorkell dismissed how he just killed most of Askeladd's men. |
G_Spark233Nov 24, 2019 6:35 PM
G_Spark233 said: I'm sure you meant Thorkell where you said Thors both times.A phenomenal episode. Askeladd did a good job of telling Thorfinn what he actually needs to do to win. Canute has some massive balls standing up to Thors. I like how Thors dismissed how he just killed most of Askeladd's men. |
Shaderino said: I laughed at that as well, they are Vikings ffs lol.Great episode but there is one thing bugging me, how the hell askeladd knows shogi ? |
| Ah I really had the feeling Thorkell & Thorfinn were family related ! I initially thought he was Helga's brother but it turned out he was old enough to be her own uncle : not so wrong, not so right eventually. Prince Canute stopped being a quiet teenager and became the real successor, this gets really interesting |
MetaKite said: G_Spark233 said: I'm sure you meant Thorkell where you said Thors both times.A phenomenal episode. Askeladd did a good job of telling Thorfinn what he actually needs to do to win. Canute has some massive balls standing up to Thorkell. I like how Thorkell dismissed how he just killed most of Askeladd's men. Oops my bad. They’re names are too similar! |
| Each episode keeps getting better and better. > Thorfinn's fall cost him his arms. Damn. > That backstory on Thors. That look in Thors' eyes. Damn. I guess he found the meaning of a true warrior. > That tactic to beat Thorkell came out quite nicely. But if not, Thorfinn should've lost that fight. > Prince Canute's eyes is similar to Thors now. > I see. Thorkell's biggest regret is to not follow Thors. |
| The anime's rating was 8.65, After this episode it jumped to 8.62. Then it declined into 8.43. Wtf is going on. |
Xelecus said: The anime's rating was 8.65, After this episode it jumped to 8.62. Then it declined into 8.43. Wtf is going on. MAL.exe has stopped working |
Elucid said: Xelecus said: The anime's rating was 8.65, After this episode it jumped to 8.62. Then it declined into 8.43. Wtf is going on. MAL.exe has stopped working @Xelecus Might be MAL finally fucking fixing bots / fake votes because some troll is spamming literally several hundred (like 900+ new accounts and counting for a week+) high scores for this show and low ones for Chihayafuru because it was rated higher than this. |
Yautja said: @Xelecus Might be MAL finally fucking fixing bots / fake votes because some troll is spamming literally several hundred (like 900+ new accounts and counting for a week+) high scores for this show and low ones for Chihayafuru because it was rated higher than this. I don't think so. Vinland Saga had the score fo 8.56/8.57 for several weeks, at least half of the broadcasting time. Also, if you check this post in Chihahya : https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1811115 You'll know that the DB admins won't solve this problem anytime soon, They're trying their best now regarding the issue of Chihaya, but for Vinland Saga, It's an error I assume, it's not the first time to happen, it happened before to animes like OPM, FMAB etc .. |
| Damn this was a real good episode. Thorfinn and Thorkell being related was a complete surprise. It was nice to get more on Thors in a flashback too. And good on Askeladd confessing that he killed Ragnar. I enjoy his character so much and that made me respect him more. Even if the whole event helped Canute grow, I didn't think Askeladd would tell him. |
Xelecus said: Yautja said: @Xelecus Might be MAL finally fucking fixing bots / fake votes because some troll is spamming literally several hundred (like 900+ new accounts and counting for a week+) high scores for this show and low ones for Chihayafuru because it was rated higher than this. I don't think so. Vinland Saga had the score fo 8.56/8.57 for several weeks, at least half of the broadcasting time. Also, if you check this post in Chihahya : https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1811115 You'll know that the DB admins won't solve this problem anytime soon, They're trying their best now regarding the issue of Chihaya, but for Vinland Saga, It's an error I assume, it's not the first time to happen, it happened before to animes like OPM, FMAB etc .. This doesn't even have close to the amount of people watching / votes that those two do, and IIRC, those two were number / processing based issues that have since been resolved, at least according to what I've read. Perhaps testing or people started voting now that this is nearing its end / because they didn't like the last couple episodes. A glitch seems far less likely. |
TopgunUK said: I noticed it was a bit strange, but later in this same episode Thorkell shouted the word "sake", ordering his men to get him some drink when I realized, "Oh well, of course. It's a Japanese show after all" Modernoir said: He was actually referring to Hnefatafl, an early Nordic board game. They just subbed it as Shogi for the japanese audience to understand what he meant. Also can't wait for the "NOOOO YOU JUST THINK YOU LIKE THE SHOW BUT YOU ACTUALLY DON'T BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ACTION AND ACTUAL CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT INSTEAD!" loonies to show up. MonkeyDHunter said: Nice we got the flashback of Thors escaping the Jomvikings with his wife and baby Ylva and their encounter with Thorkell after faking his death. Always wondered how Thorkell would end if he followed them. Thorkell lost the duel against Thorfinn due to Askeladd's scheme as well as his left eye and decided to follow Canute to see his potential. Another very well-directed episode once again. He doesn't, he was actually talking about Hnefatafl which was a scandinavian board game similar to chess. He does literally say the word shogi though. I get that it's probably just a language thing, an expression that will mean something to the japanese audience without the need to explain it and we can extrapolate that that's what he means but it's pretty funny still. |
I just realized that all of my favorite characters, beside being stunningly beautiful, also happen to be exceptionally skilled murder machines. \('-')/ I'm level |
| Another absolutely stellar episode. Man I was so hyped up by Canute at the end. Lets not forget the awesome Thors and Thorkell backstory. I loved how Thorkell says his only regret was not following Thors that day. Man I cannot wait for the day when Thorfinn finally grows to understand that a true warrior needs no sword. This episode made it clear he has a very long way to go. Dude is still a complete rageball. |
| Tbh I was kind of disappointed that Thorkell didn't value his friendship with Thors over Jomsviking deserting regulations, but I'm glad that he doesn't think ill of Thors now even though he punched him out. |
| Man, what an episode. That really fit Askellad's character, and showed the depth of Thorfinn's psychological depletion and lust for revenge, forgoing honour to that end. |
We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think? ------------------------------------ Itachi Uchiha |
| Well, I'm starting to feel relieved many if not most people are starting to figure what this is about. Not that I should be surprised because the Thors and Canute scenes here really should clear the picture up quite a bit. |
| Man, all these characters are so bold and so likeable. Such a great story. Now the prince's completely changed and he has those pierecing powerful eyes like Thors, which makes his presence so divine and becomes the most charismatic character in this show right now. |
"Self respect is the greatest gift we can give to our self" |
| Lmao Askeladd just admitting he killed Ragnar. Almost wish Canute would've killed him there but obviously there was no chance of that happening. Oh Thorkell. "I killed most of your men but that's water under the bridge, right?" |
| some good spicy memes can be made out of this episode it was really interesting getting some more insight(?) on all the backstory |
| I just hope the two conceited brats actually mature sooner or later but this isn't the part of the plot, unfortunately, and I don't think this is where the show is headed. One turns from a reserved guy to an arrogant one who wants to create a kingdom based on a biased perception of justice and fairness; the other one, in the attempt to get justice for his father, stoops to the same underhanded methods his father's murderer exploits, ending up tainting his father's memory. Surrounding this we have a setting that is a complete slander and misinterpretation of the Norse people. I only keep watching the show waiting for some kind of twist that's probably never going to happen. But we'll see. |
BetoAupatleti said: Slimcoder said: Actually I just reread the chapters that were adapted this episode & nothing was cut out. At most the only scene that was cut was when the soldiers saw Canute on the road, there was a bit more to the encounter but it was nothing of great importance. They pretty much kept in the entire conversation, fight, even Thorfinn's final hit on Thorkell felt like the manga's where it came across as a light tap. So I don't know what your talking about, this adaptation is pretty 1:1. A lot of lines/scenes were cut in this episode. A LOT. Read the chapters again. I was actually listing all of them here, but I stopped 'cause there are really too many. I have reread them & nothing major was cut out as already previously stated. If anything was cut out then it was minor stuff of no importance that did not majorly impact the viewing experience. And going by the acclaim here, nothing important was lost. |
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| pretty much what happened is what you'd expect from other anime titles with Canute unifying everyone for another goal. still, canute's pride will be everyone's fall and Thors will once again prove that a true warrior doesn't need a sword. he who lives by the sword, dies by the sword. if my memory serves right. and that's a bible verse btw. |
| >I had no brain when I was 12 >Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12 >I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12 >Therefore children cannot consent This is what science has done to humanity. |
| While I didn't like the fast/sudden change of Canute in the last episode (and hoped for him to be less successfull since he didn't train his leadership skills yet) the stuff with Thorkell allying with him was to be expected. Just happened fast and I thought it would still take a few episodes. Great in a way that Askeladd probably even did not expect it to happen that fast (but already recognized that Canute might become leader and that it could have happened later). The scene when he started to laugh was great. So this was a great episode for me. (Previous one I did not like that much.) |
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