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RE1031 said:

I don't know. I think it depends on the player. When I was scum, my first priorities were making sure my tone was consistent and I sounded like I was not worried at all. I would say "uncomfortable" influences tone more than the content of the post. If I were asked this question as town or scum, I am pretty sure my answer would be the same.


By itself, it doesn't. It may not at all. But it feels cheap (sorry). As for probability, it's honestly a bad habit of mind, but I dismiss things if they seem too coincidental or unlikely.


I feel like scum is capable of saying that as well. Ignoring ironace's reaction to your question, is there anything else that would suggest he's scum?

Red_Salmon said:

Well I haven't played with him before (other than the ongoing) so I can't really say if his aggressiveness is allignment indicative in itself. However I do believe we'd be able to sort him once we actually have a significant interaction with him.

Edit: o yea and I'd definitely help you keep him active :p

AbuHumaid said:
it's because what you and RE said, most of her posts are irrelevant to the game yet she's fairly active. only an anti-town would be like that i'm still not sure about her though i want to see more of her + her response

logic340 said:
Thoughts so far:
-We had a very nice pace at the start of the game but things have slowed down.
-if we don't pick things up this will become a play place for the mafia. @coromandel and @Ruu like sailor moon mafia was for us.
-players need to work at getting themselves clear.
-people should look over my early interactions and see if anything stands out now that you all know I'm town.

RE1031 said:

How do you feel about Floofs? I'd say she's contributing less than both.

Floofs said:


I have never seen Abu be aggressive in a game. It would be interesting to see, but that doesn't go with their play style. Abu's play style is low key so the best way to get a read on Abu is to ask them questions and interact with them.

Floofs said:


Why did you have an FoS on Ruu? Is your only suspicion of Ruu early game based on meta?

Floofs said:


This doesn't make any sense to me. By prefer, it sounds like you mean that you have a stronger scum lean on coro than luna. Wouldn't you vote your stronger scum lean?

RE1031 said:

I want to move my vote to Red_Salmon but I need an answer to this.

AbuHumaid said:
what's wrong with joining the game late? timezones?
and yeah RE said "good number" which is close enough to "most" why are you arguing about this while missing the whole point? by "irrelevant" i meant that your posts aren't helping town, they seem too casual

and yes i read your posts
other reasons? you just gave me more, why are you panicking over a vote? i never said i want to lynch you, i honestly didn't want to because you just came back to mafia games so it would be mean but you're not giving me a reason to not suspect you
ironace is a newbie, i'm used to him being like that so pushing on him too much is scummy wouldn't you think so?

AbuHumaid said:
@logic340 I'm backreading rn, give me some time

logic340 said:
Hey Floofs, how ya doing? Thoughts on Abu's entrance into this game? Thoughts on RE and my interactions last night? Any thoughts on Luna so far? I kind of want to vote there but I need to look over her again.

Floofs said:


I'm okay. It would have been nice for Abu to give a reason for the vote without being asked why, but that is typical of Abu's play style. I don't like Re's replies to your posts last night. In 110, Re doesn't answer your question. Their reply felt like they were unsure of how to answer your question even though it is a straightforward question. In 113, Re whats to know why you are asking the question. Re comes off as paranoid for no reason. Luna is a neutral.

Floofs said:
I'm okay. It would have been nice for Abu to give a reason for the vote without being asked why, but that is typical of Abu's play style. I don't like Re's replies to your posts last night. In 110, Re doesn't answer your question. Their reply felt like they were unsure of how to answer your question even though it is a straightforward question. In 113, Re whats to know why you are asking the question. Re comes off as paranoid for no reason. Luna is a neutral.

RE1031 said:

Before it wasn't. Now it is. Because it actually sounds like Red_Salmon wants to keep Abu from being lynched by making him be active.
And now that I'm taking a closer look Red_Salmon wasn't actually defending ironace. More like questioning the person making the read, not the read itself.
I'm scared. Why are you asking me this? ^^'

Floofs said:
Vote: Re1031



Why didn't you give logic a straightforward answer when they asked how you felt about the post and why are you scared about someone asking you a question?

logic340 said:
@Rui thoughts on this? @Floofs you too.

logic340 said:
@Luna, @Red_Salmon, @Ruu, @RE1031, @Floofs, @ironace
What is everyone's current read on AbuHumaid? I have a very specific reason for asking this question at this point in time, which I will reveal after I get responses from all of you.

RE1031 said:

Before it wasn't. Now it is. Because it actually sounds like Red_Salmon wants to keep Abu from being lynched by making him be active.
And now that I'm taking a closer look Red_Salmon wasn't actually defending ironace. More like questioning the person making the read, not the read itself.
I'm scared. Why are you asking me this? ^^'

Ruu said:


neutral but more townish than scummy atm.

Ruu said:


I like Abu's post here.

I'm having a really hard time reading people rn... Idk if it's because my head is elsewhere or because everyone is posting in such neutral way... am I the only one having this problem? I can't find scummy posts but I'm also missing townish ones D:

Salmon and Luna are not buddies that much I can tell. I like Abu over Luna atm (specially after the post I quoted).

What I didn't like about RE was that he was going back and forth with his statements and accusations. One clear example is a post I quoted earlier saying it made me lol.

I can see a coro/Luna team atm.

vote: Luna apart from what others already stated I want to vote for Luna because of coro's behaviour towards her. If Luna flips scum I'm 100% sure coro is her buddy.

What do you think logic?

logic340 said:
now that you know my alignment no I wasn't bsing with my question how do you feel about the players you discussed in this post? Particularly salmon seeing as how he hasn't asked Abu a single thing to this point?

coromandel said:
@Floofs

Do you suspect anyone so far?

logic340 said:
I'm not a huge fan of the pre flip Association let's do one at time for now. But since you brought it up why is it you feel you can see Corp/Luna scum team?

Ruu said:


coro keeps defending Luna. Way too much... (why is Luna scummy? she is not scummy... I agree with this post of hers...) I see it as a buddy worried about loosing a teammate so early in the game.

Floofs said:


Re and salmon. Re isn't being straightforward with logic's questions in post 113. Salmon didn't answer logic's questions about how they plan out sorting out Abu in post 24. They also said that they would help keep Abu active, but they haven't been doing that.

RE1031 said:

Both were not very strong, and both had similar reasons for me to be voting for them at the time. I found the pressure on ironace strange because they were going after wordplay and not his reads, and while coro was the main player pressuring him, Luna shared the same thoughts. Like I said, I think it's more effective to vote for someone who already has votes on them.


Probability of someone being scum in this game is probably ~33%, a team is less so, when you ignore things like overall behavior, because there really wasn't a lot to go on. I had no reason to believe of a Red_Salmon/ironace team. The situation was also different from what I saw, I thought Red_Salmon was dismissing the read, but he already said he wasn't (just stating his surprise). And I feel that's only sometimes the case. Since scum have to be okay with lynching townies in the end, and too much defense may actually prevent a lynch. Or if Red_Salmon had been actually defending ironace - the timing was improper and he'd be shutting down a potential lynch target (but yeah, that was not the case).


Both that he's low hanging fruit and you were creating a scenario where he'd appear scummy. It does kind of remind me of how you were going after yurkin day 1 of The Morning After for not talking about her own gameplay, but you were town there, so perhaps it's just a difference in playstyle.


Please point out to where I'm doing these things.

Floofs said:
The way someone words or phrases something can indicate alignment. The article that Lucian posted in TMA gave some examples of this.

logic340 said:
@Rui thoughts on this? @Floofs you too.

logic340 said:
@Luna, @Red_Salmon, @Ruu, @RE1031, @Floofs, @ironace
What is everyone's current read on AbuHumaid? I have a very specific reason for asking this question at this point in time, which I will reveal after I get responses from all of you.

RE1031 said:

I did answer his question though. How would you respond to it, if my response was scummy?

Floofs said:


You didn't actually answer the question. You replied to the question with question marks like you were unsure of how to answer instead of giving an straightforward answer.

RE1031 said:

Can you explain how my answers weren't straightforward? And that is pure shade. logic has already asked Abu plenty of questions, I can't control whether another player has been active or not. And Abu has been more active than you.

Floofs said:


I stated in in post 296. You are also misrepresenting what I said. Logic asked Salmon to help keep Abu active in post 24. Has Salmon been keeping Abu active like logic asked? No. I don't know where you got the idea that it was about logic. Salmon agreed to do something and hasn't done it. Thats why I am calling them out for it.

RE1031 said:

Before it wasn't. Now it is. Because it actually sounds like Red_Salmon wants to keep Abu from being lynched by making him be active.
And now that I'm taking a closer look Red_Salmon wasn't actually defending ironace. More like questioning the person making the read, not the read itself.
I'm scared. Why are you asking me this? ^^'