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    • refolde [she/her, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      37·
      8 days ago

      The fact that this walking piece of garbage is still alive can only be attributed to an evil form of divine intervention.

      That is to say, if God is actively favoring the Israelis, then God needs to be killed.

      • Cysio@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
        7·
        8 days ago

        In Polish we’ve got a saying, złego diabli nie biorą (“the devils don’t take the evil one”), that’s the whole explanation for him still being around

    • refolde [she/her, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      34·
      8 days ago

      They will never feel shame.

      Breaking their spirit and rendering them powerless is the only way forward. Metaphorically lopping off their arms and legs so they can no longer do anything. Of course if you want to do that literally too I won’t mind.

      • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.todayEnglish
        2·
        7 days ago

        Somehow, somewhere along the line, someone got their wires crossed, and the lesson they took from the Holocaust was to Pay It Forward.

    • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netMEnglish
      25·
      8 days ago

      The video is real, and I was able to source it back to an invite-only Telegram channel run by Ben-Gvir’s staff. What he’s saying translates to:

      “Look, the Iranians say I’m dead. I’m dying to execute the terrorists! «gestures to the noose» For the terrorists.”

      The context is slightly off, but it isn’t enough to warrant removing the post. That specific gallows is not purpose-built for Palestinians—it’s the one that was used to hang Adolf Eichmann in 1962. He frequently uses the words ‘Palestinian’ and ‘terrorist’ interchangeably, so it’s an understandable mix-up.

      • hellinkilla [they/them, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        1·
        7 days ago

        thanks. There is no reason to remove it because as far as I can see, there is no rule to prohibit the posting of any false things.

        I ?guess? I will take your word about the telegram channel. Although that is merely serendipity as OP states they have no clue where there video comes from and has no reason to believe it is from Ben Givr. The title of this post, per OP’s account, is a flight of fancy and a lack of the most basic due diligence.

        Itamar Ben-Gvir posts video

        true according to you, tho unknown to OP at time of posting and impossible to verify

        where he displays the new execution chamber

        false

        Israel has built

        false

        to mass murder Palestinians.

        false - reality is worse

        [Content Warning: Noose]

        accurate

            • KurtVonnegut [comrade/them]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
              1·
              8 days ago

              I really don’t think it makes a difference to re-word it to: “Itamar Ben-Gvir gets one of his social media interns or something to post video where he displays the new execution chamber Israel has built to mass murder Palestinians. [Content Warning: Noose]” The fact of who posted it is of no importance whatsoever. It’s splitting hairs.

              People make posts in c/slop all time time with titles like “Trump tweets x” or “Trump posts y to Truth Social.” Does it matter, at all, that it’s not actually Donald J Trump physically writing those tweets? Do you want every title to be “Donald Trump, or potentially one of his social media interns or other employees whose job it is to send out messaging for him, posted xyz today.” ?

              • hellinkilla [they/them, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                31·
                8 days ago

                @KurtVonnegut@hexbear.net

                I really don’t think it makes a difference to re-word it to: “Itamar Ben-Gvir gets one of his social media interns or something to post video where he displays the new execution chamber Israel has built to mass murder Palestinians. [Content Warning: Noose]” The fact of who posted it is of no importance whatsoever. It’s splitting hairs.

                Did you look at the post you yourself link to?? Here it is

                text of the above

                1944 Hitler introducing a “gas chamber”… (Topic forbidden to question/debate)…

                Nahhh this is 2026 from a European supremacist representing Israel, a sick society.

                This is Ben Gvir introducing execution chamber for Palestinian people, the same owners of the land colonisers stole. Palestinian prisoners used to be tortured and sodomized, now they will be executed as well.

                You are asserting that “angelo in china” is a sock puppet of ben-givr. “angelo in china” initiates with what sounds VERY MUCH like holocaust denialism. What is your alternative explanation of “Topic forbidden to question/debate”?? Then describes the video itself as “a European supremacist representing Israel, a sick society”.

                People make posts in c/slop all time time with titles like “Trump tweets x” or “Trump posts y to Truth Social.”

                Why not post there then instead of mindlessly posting here? People posts all kinds of things in all kinds of places. You wanna post any old bullshit: that’s what reddit is for.

                Does it matter, at all, that it’s not actually Donald J Trump physically writing those tweets? Do you want every title to be “Donald Trump, or potentially one of his social media interns or other employees whose job it is to send out messaging for him, posted xyz today.” ?

                Please provide 1 example of when people are posting that DJT posted something when it appeared to come from a muller she wrote type account as the original AND ONLY source. As that would be equivalent.

                Admit you are wrong. this is a disgrace.

                This is why actual sources should be required even in /c/chapotraphouse. We are all (me too! I have done it and posted more regrettable shit than this) susceptible to confirmation bias. Even if something “feels right” or is “spiritually true” it does not negate the need to distinguish if it is actually TRUE.

                • KurtVonnegut [comrade/them]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
                  7·
                  7 days ago

                  I honestly do not understand why you are angry. This is a video of Itamar Ben-Gvir. We both agree on that. It was posted. We both agree on that. The only thing we don’t agree on is who originally posted the video.

                  I assert: It does not matter who originally posted it. Ben-Gvir is looking at the camera, talking to the camera. He intended this video to be released to the public. Therefore, I do not care at all in what way the video was birthed unto the internet. Can you explain to me why the original source of this 10 second clip is important? Do you think it’s AI or something? Personally I do not think it’s AI.

                  You are asserting that “angelo in china” is a sock puppet of ben-givr.

                  I never said that. I have no idea who “angelo in china” is. Might be a terrible person, that is entirely possible - many people on Twitter are disgusting.

                  Admit you are wrong. this is a disgrace.

                  My comrade in Marx. This website is a posting forum, it is not the Oxford University debate club. It is not a peer-reviewed academic journal. I apologize if my shit-posting is not up to your rigorous academic standards. This website is named after animal meme. C/chapotraphouse is named after a podcast where lazy, entitled New York leftists blabber on about the news.

                  If it makes you happy, then here: yes I was wrong when I said “Ben-Gvir posts” this video. I was using colloquial language. Like if someone said: LeBron James just released a new Sprite commercial. Did LeBron direct the video? Did he hold the camera? Did he edit it? Did he post it on his account? No, other people did all that. But he is the star of the commercial, so colloquially people say he “posted” it or “released it” even if this is not literally true.

                  Is it a good use of your time to analytically pick apart every single word someone uses like this? Are you the reincarnation of Ludwig Wittgenstein? I just don’t understand why you’re so worked up over someone not speaking 100% technically correctly about the provenance of a 10-second video.