I can’t see the US allowing this to happen either.

I’m just hoping the EU collapses before that can happen.

western propaganda is very effective

My bet is that it’ll restart before the two weeks are up. Lebanon is being bombed right now, and Iran is closing Hormuz in response.

ah then does sound like a bug in lemmy code

certainly helps sell the narrative of it being the enemy to maga

lol yeah

I’d say it goes beyond Vance personally. The US generally dislikes the EU since it’s much easier to negotiate with individual countries from a position of absolute power. While the EU inevitably does bend over for the US on every issue, they always go through a bit of drama first. The stage we’re at now, is where the US would just like to burn Europe down so it can’t become integrated with China economically, and then scrap whatever is left for parts by poaching remaining industry. EU kind of stands in the way of that.

oh weird, wonder if it might be something weird on kbin end

Oman followed the whole do nothing, win approach here. :)

Yeah, I laughed at that too. It’s pretty obvious Iran isn’t going to collect USD here. It’s basically a cope article trying to paint a narrative where the US isn’t a total loser. As far as the ceasefire goes, I imagine Iranians are smart enough to realize they can’t trust Americans. If they’re agreeing to it, then it means they’re going to use that time to their own advantage too. For example, they can probably get more supplies from China and Russia, improve their AD based on what they’ve learned, and so on. The damage that was done to US infrastructure can’t be repaired in a few weeks nor can the weapon stocks be replenished, so it’s not like the US will be in a significantly better position by then.

oops fixed

welcome comrade

maybe intermittent bug, seem to be loading for me

Indeed, and I really appreciate being able to have productive discussions with people where everybody just wants to learn and understand things better rather than score internet points. I find most online spaces encourage people to act in performative fashion because they’re based on engagement farming. Here people just want to have a normal human conversation about subjects they have interest in.

Lemmygrad has been great for my mental health as well. Just being able to interact with people who broadly share your world view is incredibly helpful. You can disagree, but you have a shared framework where you can talk through these disagreements and come to an understanding. When you’re talking to people in the liberal mainstream, the world view is so divergent that you just end up talking past each other. I find there’s a mental taxing to living in a society where your views significantly diverge from the mainstream. While I don’t feel personally discriminated against, I have to run a constant mental filter in social situations whenever a political topic comes up. It’s incredibly exhausting because you end up feeling like you’re an alien. You’re speaking the same language, but have a completely different understanding of the world. I can only imagine how much worse it is living in a society like Germany that’s now hysterical in regards to Russia.

Yup, which is really the only sensible way to divest from the US. They just sold off whatever they supposedly had in US vaults, and will buy gold they can get their hands on.

But if that’s the angle they take, you can just point out how China is running laps around the west technologically, in terms of production, infrastructure, and so on. So, if Chinese get to be ‘lazy’ and achieve all that, then that surely must be a sign of a superior system. If we’re working hard, and we can’t do these things, then what are we even doing?

we can finally go back to civilized programming

it really does fall apart under even the barest of scrutiny