WO2005064167A1 - Mesure de quantites - Google Patents
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F04—POSITIVE - DISPLACEMENT MACHINES FOR LIQUIDS; PUMPS FOR LIQUIDS OR ELASTIC FLUIDS
- F04D—NON-POSITIVE-DISPLACEMENT PUMPS
- F04D15/00—Control, e.g. regulation, of pumps, pumping installations or systems
- F04D15/0088—Testing machines
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- the invention relates to a centrifugal pump with one or more pressure transducers for detecting a differential pressure generated by the centrifugal pump and an evaluation unit for determining a flow rate indication from a differential pressure, the centrifugal pump being provided with a drive means and a device for detecting an absorbed power (P).
- a delivery rate is derived from the values of a QH diagram, in which the delivery head is plotted against the delivery quantity, or a QP diagram, in which the power is plotted against the delivery quantity, this is difficult in those cases where a flat flow rate is shown or there is a non-continuously increasing QH characteristic or QP characteristic.
- DE 199 31 961 A1 discloses a method for regulating a delivery quantity of a pump, the pump being driven by an electric motor controlled by a frequency converter.
- the input power (P) of the motor is measured as an actual value for the delivery quantity of the pump and regulated by comparison with a stored setpoint (P S oi ⁇ ).
- a change in the motor temperature (T) by a corresponding compensation quantity in the sense of a correction of the input power (P) is taken into account in the control.
- a compensation variable can be called up from an empirically created, stored table of associated input power change values and temperature values of the engine as a function of the respective operating temperature of the engine.
- the input power of the motor represents the corresponding measure for the actual value of the delivery quantity, which must then be compensated for by the temperature value.
- the aim of DE 19931 961 A1 is accordingly to readjust a delivery quantity, here primarily the delivery pressure, taking into account the input power (P) as a measurement quantity without explicitly specifying the current delivery quantity.
- the invention is based on the problem of developing a safe pump-internal quantity measurement for a pump, which ensures a high level of accuracy and at any time about the respective volume flow conveyed by the pump over the entire volume flow range and also with large volume flows.
- X Ca ⁇ is added at the respective time of calibration, parallel to the detection of the respective pressure difference ⁇ p ca ⁇ , that of the pump or pump and Drive means or only power P ca ⁇ recorded by the drive means. This takes place when the pump characteristic curve is completely shut down.
- the invention also eliminates the additional problem of being able to predict a volume flow in the case of centrifugal pumps on the basis of not continuously increasing, falling or too flat delivery head or performance characteristics.
- the calibration curve f (Q ca ⁇ ) is designed to be steadily increasing and that its continuously increasing course is independent of the actual QH curves of a circular pump, which have different slopes and courses.
- a previously known direct determination of an instantaneous volume flow from the determined delivery heights or output curves has the disadvantage that in addition to the pressure differences or outputs, the density of a delivery medium must always be known or additionally determined. Since the density is in turn temperature-dependent, a temperature measurement must also be carried out. However, both variables, density and temperature, are not according to the invention required because the density is reduced as an influencing variable when forming the quotient.
- Embodiments of the invention provide that the drive means is designed as an electric motor, that the drive means is designed to be speed-controllable, or that a speed measurement is carried out at the same time.
- the drive means with variable speed, there is the possibility of expanding the determined calibration curve using a simple conversion by the affinity laws to a calibration curve field or explicit measurement of the same during a metrological acceptance test of the circular pump.
- a calibration curve belonging to the respective speed is determined from a stored calibration curve field during operation with simultaneous speed measurement values and the respective volume flow is thus determined.
- a centrifugal pump or its installation location is equipped with a device for differential pressure detection, which makes it possible to determine the current static delivery head. Furthermore, the drive means of the centrifugal pump has a device for detecting the drive power consumed in the respective operating state and at the moment.
- the calibration curve is determined by acquiring the curves of the differential pressure ⁇ p ca ⁇ and the power P ca ⁇ consumed at the respective operating point and using equation [3] f (Qcai) and / or their values are determined and stored in a memory element as a function of P ca ⁇ / ⁇ p ca ⁇ .
- the values of Pi S t / ⁇ pi St are determined from the differential pressures ⁇ pis t continuously measured during operation and the associated respective drive powers Pi st recorded in parallel therewith at the same operating points.
- the comparison of these measured values recorded during operation with the values of the respectively stored calibration curve f (Q ca ⁇ ) results in the simplest way the associated flow rate Qj S t of the centrifugal pump at the time Xj S t.
- a differential pressure ⁇ p generated by the centrifugal pump is recorded with one or more pressure transducers, the centrifugal pump having an evaluation unit for determining a delivery quantity specification Q from a differential pressure ⁇ p and the centrifugal pump with a drive means and a device for Detection of an input power P is provided.
- a total of five curves are plotted in the upper part of the diagram, which show the delivery height H in relation to a delivery quantity Q.
- the middle curve H1 on which several measuring points marked with x are plotted, corresponds to an operation at nominal speed.
- the points of these other curves are each represented by different graphic symbols in the form of +, O, D, ⁇ .
- the corresponding power curves P are plotted in the middle part of the diagram.
- the mean power curve P1 corresponds to the power consumed for curve H1.
- the two other performance curves arranged above and below behave analogously to the curves of the head H at different drive speeds.
- the performance shown here curves represent an unfavorable case and show an uneven course. An attempt to determine the quantity using conventional means would lead to different quantities.
- the calibration curve f (Q ca ⁇ ) determined according to the invention is shown. It results from the function according to equation [3] above.
- the corresponding values of such a calibration curve are stored in a measuring and / or regulating device of a centrifugal pump which is known per se.
- the respective data of Pj S t and ⁇ pist are recorded at any or desired point in time Xjs t and the delivery quantity Qj St is determined in accordance with the relationship in the associated calibration curve f (Q ca ⁇ ).
- Such an evaluation procedure is shown in the diagram by a dashed and arrowed line.
- ⁇ p ca ⁇ pressure difference measured when a centrifugal pump is removed
- ⁇ pi St pressure increase of the pump at the time of measurement, pressure difference
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Applications Claiming Priority (2)
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| DE10359726A DE10359726A1 (de) | 2003-12-19 | 2003-12-19 | Mengenmessung |
| DE10359726.3 | 2003-12-19 |
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| WO2005064167A1 true WO2005064167A1 (fr) | 2005-07-14 |
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