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It’s a bit of pop linguistics about the dual number in English, with a few inaccuracies, but it’s interesting regardless. I’ll provide here some further historical info.

Proto-Indo-European contrasted three grammatical numbers: singular, dual, and plural. With the dual being used mostly for things that come in pairs (like arms or a couple). By Proto-Germanic times, the dual only survived in the pronouns, as you can see in this table:

Person/number Nominative Accusative Oblique Possessive
1SG (“I”) ek~ik mek~mik miz mīnaz
1DU (“we both”) wet~wit unk unkiz unkeraz
1PL (“we”) wīz~wiz uns unsiz unseraz
2SG (“thou”) θū θek~θik θiz θīnaz
2DU (“you two”) jut~jit inkw inkwiz inkweraz
2PL (“y’all”) jūz~jīz izwiz izwiz izweraz
reflexive (“self”) se- sek~sik siz sīnaz

Note those forms are reconstructed (I didn’t want to clutter the table with asterisks). That ⟨θ⟩ is to be read as in “think”, ⟨j⟩ as in “yes”, and the vowels as in Spanish or Polish, with a mācron making them lōnger (longcat is looooong lōng).

The dual pronouns would survive until Early Middle English (up to 1350), but were increasingly less used. I believe most of the other pronouns from that table survived.

  • CombatWombat@feddit.online
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    10 hours ago

    Can you imagine how cute it must have been to have a couple’s pronoun? You’re a ninth century peasant boy at the may pole festival and your crush is like “come on” and you’re like “where are we (3+) going?” and they’re like “we (two) are going exploring deeper into the woods” and all of a sudden you feel all the blood rush to your face and you’re blushing like a maniac because they’re using the couple pronouns. Bring them back!

    • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyzOPM
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      3 hours ago

      English is almost regenerating the singular/plural distinction for 2nd person pronouns, given how common expressions like “you guys”, “you all” etc. are. And they’re often shortened into a single word; e.g. “yall”. Theoretically nothing prevents it from happening with “we both”, “you both” and “they both”, provided there’s enough semantic pressure to do so. Basically you’d need people treating sets of two elements as something intrinsically different from many.

      (A shame that, if this ever happens, the “bo” in “both” might get eroded into nothing. Even if it’s one of the few leftovers of that dual.)