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  • Kaput@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    How can i tactfully say: i aggree you are a person and will treat you as such. However humam nature is such that your very pleasing apparence is currently shorting pathways from visual cortex to the brainstem. Or in short, i’m turning dumb right now, please hold while i get accustomed.

    Of course im mot going to have that conversation, its juste replying to this post.

    Sometime it feels like going from a dark room to full on sun, and the brain needs a little time adjusting.

  • qaz@lemmy.worldM
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    6 days ago

    Could you please mark it NSFW and tag it as described in the rules?

    • PugJesus@piefed.socialOP
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      6 days ago

      Marked it as NSFW, not sure what to tag it. I didn’t NSFW it initially because there wasn’t any nudity or near-nudity, and I didn’t think it needed it?

  • TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    I think it was George rr martin in an interview was asked why he wrote women well

    “Well you know, I’ve always considered women as people.”

    https://youtu.be/fGmctvlITtI

    Even though this is the same man who wrote the “fat pink mast scene.” Lactation and all

    • PugJesus@piefed.socialOP
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      7 days ago

      Finding people sexy is fine, but treat them as people first and foremost. Degrading and objectifying people isn’t humanizing, obviously, but neither is idolizing them or projecting an idealization of a romantic partner.

      • wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe
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        6 days ago

        Could you also explain what you mean by “objectification” and how is it different than “finding people sexy”

        • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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          Generally, the not bothering of interacting with someone as a person beyond the sexual. It’s fine in certain contexts, namely one’s where that’s what everyone goes into the space looking for, but for contrast I typically know a few non sexual things about someone after a night of heavy flirtation and making out ar a bar

        • PugJesus@piefed.socialOP
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          6 days ago

          Interactions with people aren’t prizes, and shouldn’t be conceptualized as such.

          “Humans have needs and desires” and “Humans should conceptualize the fulfillment of their needs and desires as separate from the people they interact (and resulting consequences) with to achieve them” are two different things.

          Most basic idea, do unto others. People sometimes want to feel wanted, even in just a purely carnal sense; people generally do not want to feel treated like an object, an abstract, or a piece of meat in the process.

            • Velma@lemmy.today
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              6 days ago

              Wouldn’t the “prize” be the act of sex and not the woman herself? You are not granted ownership of a woman just by having sex with her.

            • PugJesus@piefed.socialOP
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              I am also not talking about all human interactions but specifically sex, which is goal oriented and has a very clear concept of a prize (a reward) if you think in terms of reinforcement learning.

              Okay, let me rephrase this again, in light of that wording of your position:

              “Do not treat human beings simply as means to achieve a goal, even if the human being is necessary for that goal.”

                • Velma@lemmy.today
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                  6 days ago

                  It is true that humans are more than what their biology sets them to be, but obscuring the actual goal in language seems to be a repressive enactment.

                  It’s repressive to ask men to not view women only as sexual conquests because of biology?