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Nick's Movie

Original title: Lightning Over Water
  • 1980
  • 1h 31m
IMDb RATING
6.7/10
1.7K
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Nick's Movie (1980)
Documentary

Wim Wenders abandons the shoot of one of his own films in order to help his friend and fellow director Nicholas Ray create his swan song before he dies.Wim Wenders abandons the shoot of one of his own films in order to help his friend and fellow director Nicholas Ray create his swan song before he dies.Wim Wenders abandons the shoot of one of his own films in order to help his friend and fellow director Nicholas Ray create his swan song before he dies.

  • Directors
    • Nicholas Ray
    • Wim Wenders
  • Writers
    • Nicholas Ray
    • Wim Wenders
  • Stars
    • Gerry Bamman
    • Ronee Blakley
    • Pierre Cottrell
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  • IMDb RATING
    6.7/10
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    • Directors
      • Nicholas Ray
      • Wim Wenders
    • Writers
      • Nicholas Ray
      • Wim Wenders
    • Stars
      • Gerry Bamman
      • Ronee Blakley
      • Pierre Cottrell
    • 13User reviews
    • 19Critic reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
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    • Awards
      • 1 win & 1 nomination total

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    Gerry Bamman
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    Ronee Blakley
    Ronee Blakley
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    Pierre Cottrell
    Pierre Cottrell
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    Stefan Czapsky
    • Self
    Mitch Dubin
    • Self
    Tom Farrell
    Tom Farrell
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    Becky Johnston
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    Tom Kaufman
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    Pat Kirck
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    Edward Lachman
    Edward Lachman
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    Martin Müller
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    Craig Nelson
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    Nicholas Ray
    Nicholas Ray
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    Susan Ray
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    Timothy Ray
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    Martin Schäfer
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    Chris Sievernich
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    Wim Wenders
    Wim Wenders
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    • Directors
      • Nicholas Ray
      • Wim Wenders
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      • Nicholas Ray
      • Wim Wenders
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    bworthen

    See this movie if you love Nicholas Ray

    This is not a movie for Wenders fans as much as it is for Nick Ray fans. In fact, I wouldn't recommend it unless you felt connected to the director. And I don't mean that you've happened to rent Johnny Guitar, In a Lonely Place or They Live By Night. See it if you saw a theme in Ray's work, one that made you go back and learn about his life. See it if you re-watched his films, trying to understand every cut and what it told you about the man behind the camera. See it if it bothers you that he will never make another film. Because in Lightning over water Nicholas Ray invites you to share his death with him, and, if you see it, you must be prepared to grieve. I saw this movie late one night in my college dorm room (a college with a featured role in the film, but that is merely tangential). I didn't let anyone watch it with me. The previous summer my grandfather had died in the same drawn-out manner. He was surrounded by family from the time of his diagnosis to the time of his death. Wenders and his crew are Nick Ray's family -- a love of the director's work is the blood connecting them. Wenders carries a camera with him because he knows that others -- even those who never heard of Nicholas Ray until he was dead for 18 years -- have the same blood in them. Wenders gives us the chance. But it is Nick Ray who we come to see.
    mboedicker-1

    Beware: two versions exist, first is better

    Two video versions of this film exist, both roughly the same length. The first was released by Pacific Video on VHS in 1987, the second just this month (1/03) by Anchor Bay on DVD. According to Kathe Geist's book "The Cinema of Wim Wenders: From Paris France to Paris Texas," Wenders was so depressed by the filming of "Lightning" and Ray's death that he handed the footage over to his editor, Peter Przygodda, who spent a year fashioning it into a version shown at Cannes; apparently this is also the version released by Pacific Video in 1987 and which I first saw around that time (and have watched many times since). Wenders supposedly found this version obscure and depressing and re-edited, adding a voiceover (his own) and superimposing passages from Ray's diary; this is the version just released on DVD, and is considered by some the definitive edition. But I find Wender's criticism of the initial cut confusing, for it's the LATTER cut (his own) which is murky and depressing. Nick Ray's final scene, for example ("Cut...Don't Cut.") is tortuous (we're watching a man dying), and there are sequences edited so bizarrely as to be almost incomprehensible. The first cut, in contrast, has a narrative flow and progression that make it easier to absorb, though it's still tough going as we witness Nick Ray's suffering. Also, Wender's narration in the 2nd version (absent in the initial cut) actually adds little to the film. The first version is unfortunately out of print but is worth tracking down because it's the superior one.
    6boblipton

    Final Cut

    Nicholas Ray is dying when Wim Wenders come to visit him. They start to make a motion picture about his death.

    With Wenders and Ray credited as co-directors, I'm left with the question of who is in charge. I'm left with the conclusion that it must be Wenders, and then with another question: what is it about? I think it's a love letter from one quirky and independent director for a friend who was also a quirky director, and the baffling and often filing efforts to make films that say something about something.

    Does it succeed? As a love letter, yes.

    As for the rest, I just don't know. Which is probably how Wenders feels.
    1mossgrymk

    lightning over water

    Not being in the habit of viewing snuff films I experienced what was, for me, a strange, rather unique emotion roughly five minutes into this documentary. Put into words it was, "I should not be watching this." And this feeling only deepened and broadened as the doc continued. I know the subject approved of it and that it was done with his full cooperation but I still felt as if it was obscene for me to be watching it. Even in our voyeuristic, surveiled world, where everything, it seems, belongs to someone or something other than oneself, some things are simply too private for sharing. Such as a real person's actual last, cancer ravaged moments. So I pulled the plug right after the "Lusty Men" clip which is definitely something I should be watching.
    7Sylviastel

    A Final Tribute to a Film Director!

    In this film documentary, Wim Wenders comes to New York City to visit film director, Nicholas Ray, who directed classics like Rebel Without a Cause starring James Dean. Ray lives in a Soho loft with his younger wife, Susan Ray. You could see the twin towers that once stood at the foot of Manhattan long before it's destruction in 2001. Nick Ray is stubborn and determined to make a final film. In some ways, it's his last chance in the cinema. Wim Wenders knows time is of the essence sine Ray is dying of cancer. There are candid moments of Ray dying but not letting his cancer destroy him. Wenders is a friend and film director. This documentary is really more of a tribute than anything else to a fine film director even though we didn't get to really know him. I haven't seen any of his films to date. The documentary might be dated but it's important to recognize a man who was really a genius in the film industry even thirty years later. He didn't live like a millionaire. He lived quite modestly and on his own terms which is how he died.

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    • Trivia
      Final film directed by Nicholas Ray; this also marks as his first documentary.
    • Quotes

      Wim Wenders: I didn't come here to talk about dying Nick... but we might have to.

      Nicholas Ray: But we might have to?

      Wim Wenders: I was looking forward to seeing you, because I need your advice. You told me on the phone that you wanted to see me, but I was afraid to come too. And I think I'd rather tell you right now; why. I was aware that I'd see you in weakness, and... that... you might be worried about being seen this way. But I feel it's okay now. There is something else that came to my mind in the plane last night, that I'm actually more afraid of. I thought that I could find myself being attracted to your weakness, or to your suffering, and... if I realized I was, I think I would have to leave you. It would feel like abusing you... or betraying you.

      Nicholas Ray: That won't happen.

      Wim Wenders: Good! So what are our plans for the rest of the day?

    • Alternate versions
      After Nicholas Ray died, Wim Wenders was too depressed to help edit the film, so he left it to Peter Przygodda. Przygodda spent a year working on it, and this was the 116-minute version shown at the Cannes Film Festival. Wenders, however, was disturbed by this version and found it depressing and obscure. He spent three months with Chris Sievernich re-editing the film. Aside from cutting more than 25 minutes, he added more footage of Susan Ray as well as his narration of Ray's diary. This 91-minute version is the one distributed by the Wim Wenders foundation.
    • Connections
      Edited from Nicholas Ray: Especially for Pierre (1979)
    • Soundtracks
      Lightning Over Water
      Performed by Ronee Blakley

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    • Release date
      • November 23, 1984 (Sweden)
    • Countries of origin
      • West Germany
      • Sweden
    • Languages
      • English
      • German
    • Also known as
      • Lightning Over Water
    • Filming locations
      • New York City, New York, USA
    • Production companies
      • Road Movies Filmproduktion
      • Viking Film
      • Wim Wenders Productions
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      • $700,000 (estimated)
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    • Runtime
      1 hour 31 minutes
    • Sound mix
      • Mono
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.66 : 1

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