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Marines - Die Kraft - Der Schmerz - Der Stolz

Originaltitel: The Lords of Discipline
  • 1983
  • 18
  • 1 Std. 42 Min.
IMDb-BEWERTUNG
6,6/10
3089
IHRE BEWERTUNG
Marines - Die Kraft - Der Schmerz - Der Stolz (1983)
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Im Amerika der 1960er Jahre wird einem schwarzen Kadetten die Aufnahme in eine scheinbar prestigeträchtige Militärakademie gewährt, was eine Flut von Korruption innerhalb des Systems auslöst... Alles lesenIm Amerika der 1960er Jahre wird einem schwarzen Kadetten die Aufnahme in eine scheinbar prestigeträchtige Militärakademie gewährt, was eine Flut von Korruption innerhalb des Systems auslöst, die ein anderer Kadett zu entlarven bereit ist.Im Amerika der 1960er Jahre wird einem schwarzen Kadetten die Aufnahme in eine scheinbar prestigeträchtige Militärakademie gewährt, was eine Flut von Korruption innerhalb des Systems auslöst, die ein anderer Kadett zu entlarven bereit ist.

  • Regie
    • Franc Roddam
  • Drehbuch
    • Pat Conroy
    • Thomas Pope
    • Lloyd Fonvielle
  • Hauptbesetzung
    • David Keith
    • Robert Prosky
    • G.D. Spradlin
  • Siehe Produktionsinformationen bei IMDbPro
  • IMDb-BEWERTUNG
    6,6/10
    3089
    IHRE BEWERTUNG
    • Regie
      • Franc Roddam
    • Drehbuch
      • Pat Conroy
      • Thomas Pope
      • Lloyd Fonvielle
    • Hauptbesetzung
      • David Keith
      • Robert Prosky
      • G.D. Spradlin
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    The Lords of Discipline
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    David Keith
    David Keith
    • Will McLean
    Robert Prosky
    Robert Prosky
    • Col. 'Bear' Berrineau
    G.D. Spradlin
    G.D. Spradlin
    • Gen. Bentley Durrell
    Barbara Babcock
    Barbara Babcock
    • Abigail St. Croix
    Michael Biehn
    Michael Biehn
    • John Alexander
    Rick Rossovich
    Rick Rossovich
    • Dante `Pig` Pignetti
    John Lavachielli
    • Mark Santoro
    Mitchell Lichtenstein
    Mitchell Lichtenstein
    • Tradd St. Croix
    Mark Breland
    Mark Breland
    • Tom Pearce
    Malcolm Danare
    Malcolm Danare
    • Poteete
    Judge Reinhold
    Judge Reinhold
    • Macabbee
    Greg Webb
    Greg Webb
    • Braselton
    Bill Paxton
    Bill Paxton
    • Gilbreath
    • (as 'Wild' Bill Paxton)
    Dean R. Miller
    • Gooch
    • (as Dean Miller)
    Ed Bishop
    Ed Bishop
    • Commerce St. Croix
    Stuart Milligan
    Stuart Milligan
    • McIntyre
    Katharine Levy
    Katharine Levy
    • Teresa
    Jason Connery
    Jason Connery
    • MacKinnon
    • Regie
      • Franc Roddam
    • Drehbuch
      • Pat Conroy
      • Thomas Pope
      • Lloyd Fonvielle
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    6notelvis2

    Likable movie but don't expect everything you got in the novel!

    I was impressed with how well this movie captured the flavor of time and place. As a viewer I easily felt that it was Charleston, SC in the mid 1960's. The parts were well-cast and convincingly played. I would be comfortable suggesting this movie to others and would not mind seeing it again myself.

    Having read Pat Conroy's original novel years ago I found that the characters in the movie looked remarkably like my imagination expected them to. That was another plus.

    However......and this is minor......Pat Conroy's novels tend to be sprawling affairs with several plot lines (and the ensuing chaos) running concurrently. They do not condense down into a standard length feature film without editing a good bit of the original novel out. This is the case here......several minor items had to be changed for the movie to cover the fact that one of the major plot elements in the novel were left out entirely.
    4barbarausa

    Does not come close to book

    The movie is adequate and casting for "The Bear" was perfect. The film lost the eliminate of mystery and intrigue the book had. By showing "The Ten" to early and on campus they stole from the mythology of the fraternity. On the other hand, it is impossible to make a film that lives up to a Conroy novel as their is just too much. If a producer was smart they would hire Pat Conroy to make a TV series out of any one of his novels. I don't mean a mini series, but an actual TV series that would probably need to run three seasons. If Conroy didn't want to write the series than David E. Kelley could possibly do justice to many of Conroy's novels or in the case of the Lords Of Discipline Arron Sorkin could possibly write it. Obviously Pat would be the ideal writer though. Trying to do any Conroy novel in a two or even three hour film is just ridiculous. That's why "The Prince of Tides" was such a bad film. It did not stand a chance of having even the same story line as the novel because the real story could not be covered by a film.
    6wes-connors

    The First Cut is the Deepest

    It's 1964 at the Carolina Military Institute. Returning for his senior year as a cadet, hunky David Keith (as Will "Bubba" McClean) and his pals discover the freshman "Knobs" include, for the first time, a young black man. As you might expect, he is the victim of racial hatred. Old-timer Robert Prosky (as "the Bear") enlists Mr. Keith's help in watching over the black cadet, Mark Breland (as Pearce). Keith gets reluctant help from his three roommates - piano playing Mitchell Lichtenstein (as Tradd St. Croix), weight-lifting Rick Rossovich (as Dante "Pig" Pignetti), and Italian Elvis fan John Lavachielli (as Mark Santoro).

    Keith and his friends participate in "Hell Night" with the usual shenanigans. Of course, "scumbags," "maggots," and "faggots" are encouraged to vacate the premises. Overweight Malcolm Danare (as Poteete) is the first casualty. Then, a (not so) secret organization known as "The Ten" targets Mr. Breland. But, "The Lords of Discipline" isn't really about Breland or his race. Rather, it's a mystery thriller focusing on Keith and his roommates. And, even then, it's not much of a mystery. Most enjoyable are Keith and his three roommates, who manage to be appealing in some unappealing (and obvious) roles.

    ****** The Lords of Discipline (2/18/83) Franc Roddam ~ David Keith, Mitchell Lichtenstein, Rick Rossovich, Robert Prosky
    Pilgrim-5

    Bland adaptation of the Conroy novel about misconduct in a military academy

    If there were no Pat Conroy novel to compare this film to, the movie might fare better. Gone is the "love interest" (major) and added is a much more upbeat ending. Conroy's novels tend toward cynicism and this one is no different. Keith and Prosky do a good job of creating two of the main characters. There is some suspense toward the end, but too much is communicated too fast to be believable. Location shots are impressive (England!) and the pacing is right. The music (Howard Blake) is weak. One would like to have seen this film directed by Sam Peckinpah or Martin Scorsese.
    KaJerm

    Ah, If only there were no book to compare it to...

    The movie itself was mediocre-- but having read Pat Conroy's incredible novel, filled with cynicism, cruelty, depth, and of cource, deceit-- all that good stuff. Alas, without a love interest, the myriad losses, and the absolutely imperative dips into the depths of Senior Private Will McLean's psyche, this movie is simply a hollow time-waster about a Southern Military school. Read the book, skip the film-- or better yet (since the film was actually rather enjoyable) see the film first, and then bask in the sheer, dark goodness of Pat Conroy's writing. If only there were no Pat Conroy novel, this movie would be an enjoyable flick... Oh well.

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    • Wissenswertes
      Pat Conroy based the source novel on a 1907 incident in which a group of military cadets at a distinguished naval and military college banded together to form a secret society. Every year, ten more cadets were added. When the society was exposed after several years, the original cadets were now influential people occupying a number of positions of power.
    • Patzer
      As Will is sneaking out of the campus to go spy on The Ten, a modern streetside mailbox is shown.
    • Zitate

      Dante 'Pig' Pignetti: It's always 'fuck, shit, piss' all the time around here, I mean, if she could hear it, it would embarrass her.

      [looks at a picture of his girlfriend]

      Will: But Pig, this is a photograph.

      Dante 'Pig' Pignetti: I know that!

      Will: It can't see, smell, hear, taste. Right? Mark... Now Mr. Santoro, if you please, address a few obscene remarks to this totally inanimate photograph.

      Mark: Jesus, would you look at the tits on that bitch!

      Will: Pig, how we doin'?

      [Pig is trying to control himself]

      Will: Tradd?

      Tradd: My, would I dearly love to play a little 'hide the sausage' with that spectacular piece of wop-ass.

      Will: Pig?

      Dante 'Pig' Pignetti: She... She can't hear ya!

      Will: That a boy!

      [Takes the picture]

      Will: Hi baby. How'd you like a hot flesh injection with the old pork-sword, huh? Nine inches of steaming conga up that tight little...

      Dante 'Pig' Pignetti: I'M GONNA KILL YA!

    • Crazy Credits
      Bill Paxton is referred to in the closing credits as "Wild" Bill Paxton.
    • Alternative Versionen
      NBC edited 6 minutes from this film for its 1986 network television premiere.
    • Verbindungen
      Referenced in The Facts of Life: Small But Dangerous (1983)

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    • Erscheinungsdatum
      • 30. Juli 1987 (Westdeutschland)
    • Herkunftsland
      • Vereinigte Staaten
    • Sprache
      • Englisch
    • Auch bekannt als
      • Guardianes del honor
    • Drehorte
      • Wellington College, Crowthorne, Berkshire, England, Vereinigtes Königreich(main setting: Carolina Military Institute)
    • Produktionsfirma
      • Paramount Pictures
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    • Budget
      • 8.500.000 $ (geschätzt)
    • Bruttoertrag in den USA und Kanada
      • 11.787.127 $
    • Eröffnungswochenende in den USA und in Kanada
      • 3.011.932 $
      • 21. Feb. 1983
    • Weltweiter Bruttoertrag
      • 11.787.127 $
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      1 Stunde 42 Minuten
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