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The Woman in White by Wilkie Collins
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it was amazing
bookshelves: 19th-c-brit, gothic, detective-mystery


The only real flaw in this densely plotted page-turner of a novel is that in the end it slightly disappoints because it promises more than it delivers. It makes the reader fall in love with its plain but resourceful heroine Marian Halcombe, and teases us with the delightful prospect that she will become the principal agent bringing the villains to justice. When, in the middle of the novel, Marian tells her half-sister Laura that "our endurance must end, and our resistance begin," it seems like a groundbreaking feminist principle, and a little later Collins gives us the perfect metaphor for liberation when Marian divests herself of much of her cumbersome Victorian clothing so that she may safely climb out on a roof to eavesdrop on her enemies.

But--alas!--she is soaked by the rain, becomes ill, and--after having been removed to the ancient Gothic wing of the estate to recuperate--she returns to the plain woman's typical Victorian role of loyal sister and adoring aunt, allowing the returning hero Walter Hartwright to tie up the loose ends of the plot. Nevertheless, the intricate resolution is absorbing (even if the last hundred pages seem too crowded and rushed) and the ending (although perhaps too pat) is satisfying.

Oh, I almost forgot to mention Count Fosco! He is--particularly in Marian's grudgingly admiring description--one of the most fascinating and dangerous villains of all mystery fiction.
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Reading Progress

November 25, 2011 – Started Reading
November 25, 2011 – Shelved
December 7, 2011 – Finished Reading
December 8, 2011 – Shelved as: 19th-c-brit
December 8, 2011 – Shelved as: detective-mystery
December 8, 2011 – Shelved as: gothic

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message 1: by Kay (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kay You summed it up perfectly. All in all a delightful book that I would recommend to anyone.


Robert Good review. It was strange how Marian got ill from eavesdropping on the villains.


message 3: by Kay (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kay Women were thought to be very delicate in those days in the eyes of the more romantic men.


message 4: by Estott (new)

Estott Agreed- I've never read a Collins novel that works all the way through.
Have you read "No Name"?


message 5: by Bill (new) - rated it 5 stars

Bill Kerwin No. I have read the Moonstone, though, and-although I admit I read it many years ago--I found its construction and ending pretty satisfying.


message 6: by Estott (new)

Estott You're right - The Moonstone is a fine one- I think Collins' best work. In a couple of his other works he gets hung up on technicalities made possible by the marriage laws of Scotland, and I found ARMADALE only readable when Lydia Gwilt was working her evil.


message 7: by Kim (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kim Great review, Bill. Marian is a wonderful character, even if she and the plot fall away at the end. But Laura: what a Victorian male fantasy figure!


message 8: by Susan (new) - rated it 5 stars

Susan Cooper I agree with everything you wrote. Although I might have liked the ending to be more surprising or interesting, I give it 5 stars. I thought Count Fosco was definitely the most interesting character and I liked him a lot. I didn't quite understand why he had those little animals, though.


message 9: by Bill (last edited 27 mai 2015 13:42) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Bill Kerwin Susan wrote: "I agree with everything you wrote. Although I might have liked the ending to be more surprising or interesting, I give it 5 stars. I thought Count Fosco was definitely the most interesting charac...">

Collin's reason for the animals is clearer to me than Fosco's: his great cruelties are thrown into relief by his little kindnesses. Still, I can see it from Fosco's side too: he can only feel affection toward small creatures he can perfectly control.



Andrea AKA Catsos Person The treatment of Marian sounds like a disappointment to a modern reader. I guess Collins felt he'd better stick with the status quo.


message 11: by Bill (new) - rated it 5 stars

Bill Kerwin Andrea (Catsos Person) is a Compulsive eBook Hoarder wrote: "The treatment of Marian sounds like a disappointment to a modern reader. I guess Collins felt he'd better stick with the status quo."

I think you're right. It really feels as if he stopped himself, and deliberately changed course away from a more adventurous plot choice.


message 12: by Cecily (new) - rated it 4 stars

Cecily Andrea (Catsos Person) is a Compulsive eBook Hoarder wrote: "The treatment of Marian sounds like a disappointment to a modern reader. I guess Collins felt he'd better stick with the status quo."

There is a recent novel that is heavily based on this plot, but very modern in other respects, but if I tell you what it is, it may spoil it for you. You have been warned: (view spoiler).


message 13: by Paula (new) - rated it 4 stars

Paula Cooper Count Fosco os definetly One of my favourites villains of all times !!


message 14: by Bill (new) - rated it 5 stars

Bill Kerwin Paula wrote: "Count Fosco os definetly One of my favourites villains of all times !!"

Definitely!


message 15: by Choko (new)

Choko A great review!


Sketchbook Marian on the roof is my favorite sequence. Count Fosco, a fav villain....(what's in a name?)


message 17: by Bill (new) - rated it 5 stars

Bill Kerwin Sketchbook wrote: "Marian on the roof is my favorite sequence..."

Mine too. And the novel--except for the incomparable Fosco--goes downhill from there.


message 18: by Betsy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Betsy I really, really recommend "Poor Miss Finch," a Collins I had never heard of until I stumbled across it in a used book store. There is high drama, of course, but also a delightful snarkiness and a wonderfully observant narrator.


message 19: by Bill (new) - rated it 5 stars

Bill Kerwin Betsy wrote: "I really, really recommend "Poor Miss Finch," a Collins I had never heard of until I stumbled across it in a used book store. There is high drama, of course, but also a delightful snarkiness and a ..."

Thanks for the tip!


message 20: by Tracey (new) - added it

Tracey Excellent review! I somehow wasn't able to corral my impressions of it; maybe next read.

There's a lovely shortish biography of Collins - Wilkie Collins: A Brief Life by Peter Ackroyd - he was as quirky as they come.


Cherie All too true!


message 22: by Ian (last edited 22 avr. 2024 03:51) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Ian Laird Interesting in the context of your remarks about David Thomson's The Big Screen: The Story of the Movies--and What They Have Done to Us when you spoke of the circumstances when we watch film and how that affects our perceptions. I bought The Woman in White and The Moonstone from an English language bookshop when travelling in Germany as a young man. Never forgot the stories and how exciting they were. I remember the thrill of being able to read again after a bit of a famine.


message 23: by Bill (new) - rated it 5 stars

Bill Kerwin Ian wrote: "I bought The Woman in White and The Moonstone from an English language bookshop when travelling in Germany as a young man. Never forgot the stories and how exciting they were. I remember the thrill of being able to read again after a bit of a famine.

Reading about your experience caused me to remember my first reading of "To Kill a Mockingbird."

Although I am a product of American school systems and have taught high school since I was thirty, I somehow managed to miss out on Harper Lee until I was in my late '40's. Then, while on a trip through Ireland, I found myself--as a consequence of the illness of a traveling companion--spending more time than I had anticipated at a B&B in Glendalough. Looking for something to read that night, I discovered a copy of "To Kill a Mockingbird." left by a previous guest. The next morning, sitting on a hill overlooking the clear blue lake and old ruins, I read the last two-thirds of Harper Lee's novel.

I have never forgotten the contrast: reading of the segregated America South of the 30's while I gazed at what remained of an Irish monastic community established a thousand years ago.


message 24: by Shaz (new) - added it

Shaz I'm about a third of the way through and it's neither here nor there for me but your review, particularly the description of Count Fosco has got me motivated to continue


message 25: by Shaz (new) - added it

Shaz thanks!


message 26: by Ian (new) - rated it 4 stars

Ian Laird Bill wrote: "Ian wrote: "I bought The Woman in White and The Moonstone from an English language bookshop when travelling in Germany as a young man. Never forgot the stories and how exciting they were. I remembe..."Lovely story.


message 27: by Bill (last edited 19 juil. 2016 00:29) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Bill Kerwin Ian wrote: "Bill wrote: "Ian wrote: "Lovely story."

Thanks. I liked your story too. So how about it, Goodreads friends? Do you have any stories about particular books read in particular places that you would like to share here?


message 28: by Rory (new) - rated it 4 stars

Rory I've yet to read either of them (I should be starting Woman in White a few months time) but what would you say is the best or at least the personal favourite of yours?


message 29: by Bill (new) - rated it 5 stars

Bill Kerwin Rory wrote: "I've yet to read either of them (I should be starting Woman in White a few months time) but what would you say is the best or at least the personal favourite of yours?"

I like Woman best, for the characters, but Moonstone is better constructed.


message 30: by Estott (new)

Estott Bill wrote: "Ian wrote: "Bill wrote: "Ian wrote: "Lovely story."

Thanks. I liked your story too. So how about it, Goodreads friends? Do you have any stories about particular books read in particular places tha..."


Being introduced to E Nesbit's "Five Children and It" in a rented house on the Island of St John in the early 1970's.


message 31: by Rory (new) - rated it 4 stars

Rory Bill wrote: "Rory wrote: "I've yet to read either of them (I should be starting Woman in White a few months time) but what would you say is the best or at least the personal favourite of yours?"

I like Woman b..."


Thanks for the input Bill.


message 32: by Ian (new) - rated it 4 stars

Ian Laird Bill wrote: "Ian wrote: "Bill wrote: "Ian wrote: "Lovely story."

Thanks. I liked your story too. So how about it, Goodreads friends? Do you have any stories about particular books read in particular places tha..."
On my first trip to India in 2013 I re-read R.K. Narayan's The English Teacher knowing we would be visiting Mysore, where RK Narayan lived most of his adult life. I was lucky enough to go to his home, in a state of disrepair, but still there and I stood in the room where he did his writing. It was a fantastic experience as I imagined him penning his descriptions of streetscapes, shops and bazaars peopled with his remarkable characters.

In a different way I enjoyed (still reading it) Delhi when we were in Delhi earlier this year.


message 33: by Michael Fierce (new)

Michael Fierce I've been meaning to read this for awhile now. I just watched 2 film versions, one of which I own on DVD. Nice review.


message 34: by Diane (new)

Diane Wallace good review! :-)


message 35: by Linda (new) - rated it 3 stars

Linda Thank you!


message 36: by Lotte (new) - added it

Lotte Houghton Great review!
I really like your point about Marian being ill-used as a character in the latter part of the book. She also has to be made completely devoid of sexuality in order to have such an active mind and determined sensibility which is a shame; I nursed a doomed hope that Walter would eventually marry Marian instead of Laura (who was a rather shallow character). I like the twist about Fosco falling in love with her though, although it did not seem to influence his actions. A great Collins villain!


message 37: by Tina (new)

Tina Tamman Thanks for the review, Bill. Reminds me it's time to reread: I have totally forgotten the plot. (Meanwhile have discovered No Name which I enjoyed enormously.)


message 38: by Carla Remy (new)

Carla Remy I enjoyed it in my early 20s, but I could never re read it, because the solution to the mystery is so simple I never could forget it.


message 39: by Mary (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mary I love this book so, so much.


message 40: by Vinnie (new)

Vinnie Tesla I had a similar response to The Moonstone--the "hero" is absolutely the least interesting character in a book crammed with intriguing characters.


message 41: by Nocturnalux (new) - added it

Nocturnalux I absolutely loved Marian and agree that she would have made a much better heroine.

And it may not have been intentional but I saw this novel as a stark reminder of what the accepted feminine mode of conduct and its very ornamental but essentially useless education can do to women. Laura is as much a victim of the way she was raise- to be nothing but a pretty and submissive thing- as she is a victim of her nasty husband.


message 42: by Bill (new) - rated it 5 stars

Bill Kerwin Nocturnalux wrote: "I absolutely loved Marian and agree that she would have made a much better heroine.

And it may not have been intentional but I saw this novel as a stark reminder of what the accepted feminine mode..."


Yes! Laura is imprisoned just as surely as the Woman in White.


Joshua I gotta disagree with you on that Fosco comment, but other than that, I entirely agree.


peter carden Just finished Woman in White. I agree Marian is the real hero of the story. Hartwright should have married Marian. Laura is going to be high maintenance with her little headaches (how endearing) etc..The part of the book that really vexed me was how Hartwright married Laura before establishing her identity. What was on the marriage certificate? The dead Lady Glyde / Laura Fairlie?


message 45: by Bonnie (new) - rated it 4 stars

Bonnie Noehr Peter, I wondered the same thing.


message 46: by Renee (new) - rated it 5 stars

Renee M Perfect review! You captured it exactly!


Mounir Thanks for the nice review.
Long ago I read an abridged version of this novel and it became a favorite. I'm looking forward to reading the original soon.


Fergus, Weaver of Autistic Webs Bill, when my wife and I read this many years ago, what we loved best was Collins' conjuration of an atmosphere of deep mystery. Dickens was a master both of characterization and plot, but he rarely equalled his friend Collins' mastery of atmosphere!


message 49: by Mary (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mary Pagones This novel first turned me on to British literature at around age 10. I agree completely with your assessment of Marian (and the whiff of attraction between Fosco and Marian that manifests itself at times) although it's worth comparing how other strong female characters were treated by their creators in Victorian novels--I think that Collins is one of the most forward-thinking 19th century novelists I have ever read, in terms of his portrayals of women in both this novel and The Moonstone.


message 50: by Mary (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mary Pagones I'll also add for fans that the BBC adaptation from the 1980s (not the 90s, which is not very good) is available on YouTube and is astounding.


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