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The Decameron by Giovanni Boccaccio
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Read 2 times. Last read June 2, 2014 to October 7, 2014.

The Decameron is a set of one hundred stories told to each other by a group of ten people, seven women and three men, over ten days. All these stories exist within one story which is about this group of people who come together in Florence during an outbreak of the plague and how they react to it - which is by going off into the surrounding countryside and recreating a kind of temporary Eden outside the ravages of the times. Beyond that there are the author's intentions and his defence of his work, which are a further frame to the whole work. Boccaccio sees stories as a form of education - in this case to teach his reader, which he largely assumed to be women since references to potential male readers are rare, about love. Love is a vague word in English, you can love to have tea with your chips, you might love your dog, or the colour yellow on a bedroom door. None of those feature in the Decameron, love here is of the sexual or occasionally of the romantic kind.

The new society of the ten people is based on affinity and trust. They live in common, although apparently using the estates of other people, and they benefit from the labour of servants so this is socially exclusive, unlike The Canterbury Tales in which people come from a mix of social backgrounds. The new society is time bound and intended from the first, like reading itself, to be a temporary respite from events. They have a monarch to rule each day, but each of the ten in turn gets one day to rule

One of the advantages of taking part in a group read - like our one of the Decameron - is benefiting from the contributions that all the other readers make. ReemK10 pointed out that that there is a wealth of meaning in the character names and in the complex of numbers (three men and seven women, the importance of ten and so on) but as a reader all of that largely passed me over. The only character who really stood out for me was Dioneo, and not because he was Dionysian but because he got to tell the last story of everyday. This at last was a reference point - everything else was in flux for me. I felt at one moment that Panfilo was an author stand in, but that moment passed and life returned to normal.

In other words the Decameron has intricate foundations but they don't interfere with the appearance of the building. For the reader there are simply one hundred stories, divided into ten days set in a framing narrative with some linking text.

The stories give an impression of the world view of leisured middle to upper class urban people (socially below the nobility but of high enough status and wealth to be able to look down on people who are overly concerned with business) of mid-fourteenth century north Italy. The geographical scope ranges over the entire Mediterranean, with a couple of stories set in France and England (England is as exotic here as Saladin, a fantasy destination where dreams can become true) there are no stories set in China or other far eastern locations despite The Travels of Marco Polo. The Merchant of Prato gives an idea of just how natural and everyday that geographical scope was to those involved in commerce in Italy at that time. The stories are set throughout history, some in antiquity, others in the recent past, many are roughly contemporary to Boccaccio's time. Boccaccio may not have invented any of the stories. Many are recognisable retellings, and some will in turn be retold by Chaucer in The Canterbury Tales, others like the horrible Griselda story seem to have been widely known at the time and pop up in a variety of sources as a role model for a good woman (see for instance Le Menagier de Paris.

In The Canterbury Tales Chaucer reuses and adapts a few stories from Decameron and takes Boccaccio's idea of a framing narrative however he makes an important change. Chaucer's storytellers cover a fairly broad social spectrum (view spoiler), Boccaccio's reflect one view point that of Florentine urban Patrician families. They own landed estates, but don't have aristocratic titles (view spoiler), they admire aristocratic values and although their family wealth probably comes from trade and commerce, too pronounced an interest in business is felt to be improper.

Being chaste, or more to the point being seen to be chaste, is an important attribute for the women of this class and governs how they are perceived in society. Therefore the ability to conduct extramarital relationships with discretion is lionised. Oddly although their own reputation is important, persuading a servant to have sexual relations with an over eager suitor or to receive a beating in place of the heroine in exchange for a gift such a suit of clothes is seen as laudable, even by a bishop. Morality is a social attribute, what is appropriate depends on the social position of the person, rather than an absolute set of values that is immutable throughout the whole of society (view spoiler)

Having said that women of a low social class can be exemplary - pre-eminently Griselda, and can have some concern for their virtue, equally the poor (broadly speaking) can be dismissed as simple minded and herd like, ripe to be fooled by any passing quick witted Friar who is prepared to claim that a parrot's feather, in fact, came from an angel's wing. It is difficult, and without doubt very unwise, to do what I am doing and attempt to generalise about one hundred stories told by ten narrators as there always seem to be exceptions and nuances of opinion from one story to the next. Perhaps if read with paper to hand and a pencil behind the ear, setting out in columns the attitudes revealed in each story, patterns might emerge consistent to particular narrators, or maybe that each day had a particular tone.

But all of this is perhaps besides the point, this is a compendium of stories. Few if any would have been original to Boccaccio, many have deep roots and have been endlessly retold. What he has done is collect, adapt and present them within the frame work of this group of seven young women and three men moving between various estates, not many miles outside Florence, over a period of a few days while the plague runs it's course within the city.

The stories are lively, often funny, and vivid. They feature lecherous men (particularly priests and friars), cunning plans and generally the victory of the witty. Love and Fortune are capitalised and at times appear to be forces in their own right in the universe alongside God (view spoiler) and one law of nature seems to be that one woman can keep a man happy but it takes many men to please one woman. This, given the social importance for a woman of appearing chaste, provides drama and humour in many of the tales. Some of the stories have a savage twist (view spoiler) , not always condemned by narrator or his in book audience, a few see a man getting the woman he wants despite her lack of interest, some marriages are between partners of unequal ages, which doesn't seem to have been particularly unusual for the times, and this can be a narrative driver for the pursuit of extra-marital pleasures. The idea of marriage as a romantic union between two people is a rather unusual one if one takes a broad view of it. Marriage in Boccaccio in common with most of human history is a business like affair, for love to develop in it (or despite it) takes particular skill and the triumph of the witty over the wilful (view spoiler).

So overall what can be concluded about the Decameron? Perhaps nothing other than that people have to read it for themselves and that it may not be the medieval Europe that you expected to find.
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Reading Progress

Finished Reading
June 15, 2011 – Shelved
June 2, 2014 – Started Reading
August 7, 2014 –
page 267
32.05% ""Having impersonated the lady whilst he said all this, Zima now began to speak on his own behalf"

Adultery in Boccaccio comes across as a contact sport requiring a lively and active intelligence, but speaks also of unfulfilment and awkward relationships."
August 11, 2014 –
page 366
43.94% ""he sentenced Gerbino to death & had him him beheaded in his presence, preferring to lose his only grandson rather than gain the reputation of being a monarch whose word was not to be trusted""
August 11, 2014 –
page 367
44.06% "a dishonourable killing: "they pretended they were all going off on a pleasure-trip to the country, & took Lorenzo with them. They bided their time, & on reaching a remote & lonely spot, they took Lorenzo off his guard, murdered him, & buried his corpse""
August 12, 2014 –
page 409
49.1% ""Being a rouser of sleeping talents, Love had rescued those virtues from the darkness in which they had lain so cruelly hidden & forced them into the light, clearly displaying whence he draws, & whither he leads, those creatures who are subject to his rule & illumined by his radiance"

Love as an external motivating force, its not from God and sits alongside a Christian culture & in these stories trumps it."
August 13, 2014 –
page 446
53.54% ""he was so enraged that he could scarcely forbear from drawing a dagger from his belt & killing them where they lay. But on reflecting it would be a most cowardly deed for any man, let alone a king, to kill two people lying naked & asleep, he held himself in check, & resolved instead to have them publicly burnt at the stake""
August 13, 2014 –
page 489
58.7% ""The nature of wit is such that its bite must be like that of a sheep rather than a dog, for if it were to bite the listener like a dog, it would no longer be wit but abuse"

which reminds me of Geoffrey Howe whose attacks were characterised by Denis Healey as being like those of a dead sheep, yet his resignation speech to parliament is said by some to have brought the downfall of Mrs Thatcher"
August 15, 2014 –
page 513
61.58% ""I must tell you that all those who are marked with the sign of the cross by these coals may rest assured that for a whole year they will never be touched by fire without getting burnt""
September 17, 2014 –
page 578
69.39% ""Nicostratus now felt that they must both be speaking the truth, & that they could never have brought themselves to do such a thing in his presence. So he ceased his shouting & raving, & began to talk about the strangeness of the thing, & about the miraculous way in which a man's eyesight could be affected by climbing a tree""
September 18, 2014 –
page 649
77.91% ""Spinelloccio now emerged from the chest, & without making too much fuss, he said: 'Now we are quits, Zeppa. So let us remain friends, as you were saying just now to my wife. & since we have always shared everything in common except our wives, let us share them as well'"
& they all lived happily ever after..."
September 24, 2014 –
page 694
83.31% ""'Look here, Calandrino, speaking now as your friend, I'd say that the only thing wrong with you is that you are pregnant.'
When Calandrino heard this, he began to howl with dismay, & turning to his wife, he exclaimed:
'Ah, Tessa, this is your doing! You always insist on lying on top. I told you all along what would happen.'""
September 30, 2014 –
page 724
86.91% ""I do declare, my friend, that the advice I had from Solomon may yet turn out to be sound & sensible. For it's perfectly plain to me now that I've never known how to beat my wife properly, & this muleteer has shown me what I must do"
-& having beaten his wife black & blue she makes him a nice breakfast - bear in mind the author's aim in these stories is to teach women about love & relationships..."
October 6, 2014 –
page 742
89.08% "The Abbot of Cluny speaks up to the Pope on behalf of a nobleman bandit: "As to his wicked ways, I believe them to be more the fault of Fortune than his own; & if you will change his fortune by granting him the wherewithal to live in a style appropriate to his rank, I am convinced that within a short space of time, you will come to share my high opinion of him""
October 6, 2014 –
page 767
92.08% ""Let me remind you, my lord, that you covered yourself with glory by conquering Manfred & defeating Conradin. But it is far more glorious to conquer oneself""
October 7, 2014 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by Kalliope (new)

Kalliope In about ten days I hope to visit the chapel where the Decameron begins...


message 2: by Agnieszka (new)

Agnieszka Kalliope wrote: "In about ten days I hope to visit the chapel where the Decameron begins..."

And I had to postpone my trip :(


message 3: by Jan-Maat (new) - added it

Jan-Maat Kalliope wrote: "In about ten days I hope to visit the chapel where the Decameron begins..."

Excellent idea! It had never occurred to me that it was an actual place that could still be visited. That is an interesting aspect of the whole Decameron, starting with a real place and real circumstances and then branching off into his authorial invention.


message 4: by Jan-Maat (new) - added it

Jan-Maat Agnieszka wrote: "Kalliope wrote: "In about ten days I hope to visit the chapel where the Decameron begins..."

And I had to postpone my trip :("


I am sorry with you, but postponed is not cancelled!


message 5: by Fionnuala (new)

Fionnuala Very entertaining and informative account, Jan-Maat. While reading it, I imagined a frame story: a gr group of seven women and three men telling each other something every day over a period of time, perhaps ten days or so, while isolated from the world within the confines of a private space. I'm curious now to go and read the group discussions and see what juicy stories they contain...


message 6: by Samadrita (new) - added it

Samadrita What a detailed analysis, Jan-Maat. I take it I am going to appreciate Chaucer's tongue-in-cheek approach to notions of ideal womanly behavior, chastity and sexual fidelity better once I read Boccaccio.


message 7: by Jan-Maat (new) - added it

Jan-Maat Fionnuala wrote: "Very entertaining and informative account, Jan-Maat. While reading it, I imagined a frame story: a gr group of seven women and three men telling each other something every day over a period of time..."

they are pretty juicy of the hide your lover in unlikely places variety, of which my favourite was in the bath...


message 8: by Jan-Maat (new) - added it

Jan-Maat Samadrita wrote: "What a detailed analysis, Jan-Maat. I take it I am going to appreciate Chaucer's tongue-in-cheek approach to notions of ideal womanly behavior, chastity and sexual fidelity better once I read Bocca..."

oh, a cruel and sharply made point!

Since you didn't enjoy Chaucer I wouldn't recommend Boccaccio to you, life is too short to spend on books that don't appeal.

Don't all ages and places have their own peculiar ideas of the appropriate standards of behaviour, and lucky you don't to spend time in the mindset of the european middle ages if you don't want to! I suppose for me there is always something refreshing about it because their basic attitudes are so different to stuffy values of the Victorians which we are still trying to grow out of. The contrast shows at least something of the variety of human experience and oddity.


message 9: by Fionnuala (new)

Fionnuala Jan-Maat wrote: "they are pretty juicy of the hide your lover in unlikely places variety, of which my favourite was in the bath..."

I'm hooked! I'll have to read the discussions, or failing that, the Decameron itself!


message 10: by Kalliope (new)

Kalliope Fionnuala wrote: "Very entertaining and informative account, Jan-Maat. While reading it, I imagined a frame story: a gr group of seven women and three men telling each other something every day over a period of time..."

The stories are very naughty... I would be too embarrassed to participate...


message 11: by Fionnuala (new)

Fionnuala Kalliope wrote: ".The stories are very naughty... I would be too embarrassed to participate... ."

So I was right!
Can I have a retrospective pass into the discussions?


message 12: by Samadrita (new) - added it

Samadrita Jan-Maat wrote: "Samadrita wrote: "What a detailed analysis, Jan-Maat. I take it I am going to appreciate Chaucer's tongue-in-cheek approach to notions of ideal womanly behavior, chastity and sexual fidelity better..."

Oh no that comment came out like a snippy one didn't it? But I was being absolutely honest about what I stated. I actually did enjoy some portions of Canterbury Tales...like where Chaucer talks about the moral reprehensibility of rape (although in the Wife of Bath's tale that Arthurian knight gets away with rape and gets no comeuppance either) and the way he highlights the moral degradation among clergymen. Aside from these positives, all the pilgrims make for a colorful, lively bunch with unique character quirks and, as you pointed out, belonged to different strata of society which makes TCT an authentic social document of the times I take it.
As for Boccaccio, if I stopped reading books I know I am not going to enjoy very much, then I would end up reading very little.


message 13: by Kalliope (last edited 09 oct. 2014 18:19) (new)

Kalliope Fionnuala wrote: "Kalliope wrote: ".The stories are very naughty... I would be too embarrassed to participate... ."

So I was right!
Can I have a retrospective pass into the discussions?"


The best escape from the plague... Do you want to join the group? I still have not finished the book... Two days behind (20 tales).


message 14: by Fionnuala (new)

Fionnuala Yes!


message 15: by Jan-Maat (new) - added it

Jan-Maat Kalliope wrote: "Fionnuala wrote: "Very entertaining and informative account, Jan-Maat. While reading it, I imagined a frame story: a gr group of seven women and three men telling each other something every day ove..."

so that explains why you posted so little - the house moving story was just a cover for your modesty!


message 16: by Kalliope (new)

Kalliope Jan-Maat wrote: "Kalliope wrote: "Fionnuala wrote: "Very entertaining and informative account, Jan-Maat. While reading it, I imagined a frame story: a gr group of seven women and three men telling each other someth..."

I remember watching the Pasolini film when I was quite young... that marked me...


message 17: by Jan-Maat (new) - added it

Jan-Maat Samadrita wrote: " if I stopped reading books I know I am not going to enjoy very much, then I would end up reading very little"

this is too sad, but perhaps this is what helps keep your wit knife sharp? ;)

hmm, the wife of bath's tale, iirc in the end the rapist has to learn to let women make their own decisions. Which I appreciate is a pretty soft sounding punishment, but I would have said it is a reversal of his original mindset.

In the context of the Bible which recommended marrying a woman who has been raped to the man who did the deed, or for that matter the art of courtly love which advises forcing yourself on a woman of low social rank whenever you want, Chaucer does show some progress and in the absence of a universal Enlightenment small steps are better than none.


message 18: by Jan-Maat (new) - added it

Jan-Maat Kalliope wrote: "I remember watching the Pasolini film when I was quite young... that marked me... "

What tragedy am I bringing to light here, Samadrita is beset by books that she doesn't enjoy, you have been cruelly marked by films you watched in your tender years, what more is there to come?


message 19: by Caroline (new)

Caroline I enjoyed your review, your notes, and all the comments...

"Love and Fortune are capitalised and at times appear to be forces in their own right in the universe alongside God"

Absolutely!


message 20: by Jan-Maat (new) - added it

Jan-Maat Caroline wrote: "I enjoyed your review, your notes, and all the comments...

"Love and Fortune are capitalised and at times appear to be forces in their own right in the universe alongside God"

Absolutely!"


thank you, I know nothing of God, but I too will attest to the power of Love and Luck


message 21: by Hana (new) - added it

Hana This is such a helpful guide, Jan-Maat--thank you! I just finished A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 14th Century so I'm keen to give this perennial classic a try.


message 22: by Jan-Maat (new) - added it

Jan-Maat Hana wrote: "This is such a helpful guide, Jan-Maat--thank you! I just finished A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 14th Century so I'm keen to give this perennial classic a try."

The Decameron has such a variety of stories that I think most people could get something out of it. I think it would sit very well with A Distant Mirror though I imagine you might be surprised how light hearted the Decameron is by comparison.


message 23: by Hana (new) - added it

Hana That devil-may-care quality seemed to be very much a part of that century--along with conspicuous consumption. Tuchman sees it as one reaction to the horrors of the plague, war and famine: "Conspicuous consumption became a frenzied excess, a gilded shroud over the Black Death and lost battles, a desperate desire to show oneself fortunate in a time of advancing misfortune."


message 24: by Steven (last edited 27 mai 2017 12:02) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Steven Godin Hi, did you happen to read this front to back continually ?, or pick off stories every now and again. The reason I ask is simply the vast amount of reading required. Thanks!


message 25: by Jan-Maat (new) - added it

Jan-Maat Steven wrote: "Hi, did you happen to read this front to back continually ?, or pick off stories every now and again. The reason I ask is simply the vast amount of reading required. Thanks!"

No I read it through and you're better off doing it that way or alternatively reading it in batches of stories narrated by the same person - most of the days have a set topic which each of the story tellers has to stick to, you miss out on that if you read odd stories here and there. Generally the individual stories are short. The reading updates above are a little misleading as I last read it as part of a reading group here and our pace was measured


message 26: by Steven (new) - rated it 4 stars

Steven Godin Jan-Maat wrote: "Steven wrote: "Hi, did you happen to read this front to back continually ?, or pick off stories every now and again. The reason I ask is simply the vast amount of reading required. Thanks!"

No I r..."


Great!, thanks for the detailed response.


message 27: by Jan (new)

Jan Rice I particularly appreciate what you said about morality, Jan-Maat. Good review!


message 28: by Jan-Maat (new) - added it

Jan-Maat Jan wrote: "I particularly appreciate what you said about morality, Jan-Maat. Good review!"

thank you very much, Jan!


message 29: by [deleted user] (last edited 02 sept. 2019 16:53) (new)

Funny or bizarre stories of those who are arrested fora time, prisoners or hostages of the time told to alleviate their immobility and shorten the time.Why It is the book about the spoken word that tells long about people and their time Great review!


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Jan-Maat Scarlet wrote: "Funny or bizarre stories of hose whoare arrested for time, prisoners or hostege of the timetold toalleviate their immobility and shorten the time.Why It is the book about the spoken word that tells..."

thank you Scarlet


message 31: by [deleted user] (new)

Not at all Jan Mat


message 32: by [deleted user] (new)

Put to right the last jumble pf words due to the cursor pr slownes of the laptop


message 33: by Jan-Maat (new) - added it

Jan-Maat Scarlet wrote: "Put to right the last jumble pf words due to the cursor pr slownes of the laptop"

ok, that's al-right, don't worry about it!


message 34: by [deleted user] (new)

I tyype uncommonly fast and laptop can't follow me Nice readin Jan Maat Just discoverd a book I'd like to read La prisonniere de Malte in 16th century with prisoners to the Ottoman court. Maybe there could be a trace of truth, from history or folklore. I'm exited on the same way as there is cultural truth in Decameron


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