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Scott Pilgrim the Complete Series (Scott Pilgrim, #1-6)
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You know that thing, where you find this great webcomic and spend half an hour clicking through it backwards, seeing whether it only had a few good strips, or whether its actually solid throughout, and then you figure "what the hell, I'm not doing anything tonight" and so you click the 'archive' button, and go back to the first comic, and it's from 2002, and it's just bad--flat art, dumb jokes, no sense of pacing? That's the experience of reading Scott Pilgrim.
The jokes lack subtlety and insight, the characters are consistently annoying, the art's rudimentary, everyone looks the same (except for their hair, which the author constantly changes, anyways). I've heard some people blame manga/anime inspiration for the similarity of O'Malley's characters, but there are plenty of manga artists who have mastered the art of caricature, and use it to great effect. Also like a web comic archive, it gradually gets better--but not quickly enough.
It's reminiscent of Nick and Nora's Infinite Playlist, a movie I tired of about halfway through. Both of them are trying to be cutesy, quirky, ironic, and referential, but it's all very familiar stuff. I never felt there was a quick, complex mind at the helm--and with modern, referential humor, it's all about the delivery and the originality.
Then again, by this point, quirky internet humor has entered the mainstream and lost much of its punch, like Jerry Seinfeld talking about airline food: now everyone’s doing it. It's like your friend who thinks saying 'remember that episode of Family Guy?' is the same as telling a good joke. Both Nick and Nora's and Scott Pilgrim were by-the-book quirky. None of it is going to strike you as interesting or witty if you’re the least bit familiar with internet subcultures and humor already.
Both also had somewhat unsettling homophobic overtones, playing off all the gay characters and same-sex romance for jokes--and cute lesbians for titillation. It's nice to have more openly gay characters in YA media, but not as thin, walking punchlines. It was worse in 'Infinite Playlist', but there was still a persistent undercurrent of homosocial discomfort.
The book was also very reminiscent of the splendid anime FLCL, from the mysterious, begoggled, badass delivery girl arriving to complicate the (sex) life of our oblivious jerk protagonist to the naive, sweet waif caught up in it all--the seemingly normal world invaded by magic, twisting our expectations of reality. Yet unlike FLCL, this was not a rollicking, take-no-prisoners, psychedelic reimagining of the genre, it was just a dull story about annoying people occasionally perked up by in-joke fight scenes. The musical obsession was another shared thread, right down to the same characteristic Rickenbacker.
It's very soap opera: who is dating who, who used to date who, which would be more intriguing if I were interested in the characters. Instead, they’re the sort of dull, naive, self-absorbed people that I spent high school and college avoiding, right down to the fratboy favorite lipstick lesbian poster on the wall and an undying reverence for whatever bands Pitchfork told you to listen to this week. They value music solely because of their emotional reactions to it, but they act as if this somehow makes them special, as if their emotional connection to a particular song were somehow more valid than the average jugglette's.
Then there's the obsession with the rarity of music: collecting unknown bands and staking claim, which is a symptom of the fact that most trendy people don't recognize the difference between a cause and its effect. It's true that a knowledgeable musicologist or musical historian will be familiar with a number of 'undiscovered' bands, but deliberately seeking out unknowns will not make you more musically sophisticated--most unknown bands are unknown for good reason.
Scott himself is a mess, and yet without being either sympathetic or complex. He's definitely got that Holden Caulfield 'woe-is-me, it's not my fault I'm an asshole' vibe. As it goes on, it resembles a harem anime more and more, where all women fight over Scott all the time, despite the fact that he's a self-absorbed loser.
Now, some authors, like Nabokov or Anna Kavan, have succeeded in presenting these awful, unpleasant characters in a way that reveals their natures, the psychology which drives them to be so self-centered and thoughtless--helping us to understand these characters, and even sympathize with them, while still disliking them. It’s difficult to do, but certainly possible.
Unfortunately, there's very little introspection in Scott Pigrim, the story touches superficially on a lot of parts of childhood, especially trends, but almost never turns a critical eye on them. Everything is taken for granted, not only by the characters, but seemingly by the author. Other characters do sometimes get angry at Scott, or criticize his behavior, but this isn't the same as a commentary on the sort of person he is--we don't see him change, or suffer more than temporary drawbacks.
There's something funny about a story centered on character interaction that eschews psychological progressions or conflict resolution in favor of videogame powerups and ninja battles. But then, how many self-absorbed videogame-loving assholes wish that sex and relationships were acquired and maintained by minigames and xp grinding?
Each issue is incrementally better than the last: the story becomes more streamlined, and O'Malley takes more artistic chances, usually to the general benefit of the comic, eventually hiring on other artists who really improve the style--though in all the reviews, no one ever mentions Kantz and Ancheta. Then again, it's not like they get billing on the cover, which is a pretty disingenuous move by O'Malley: he brings in some talented artists to improve his book and he gets all the credit.
Between the ever-growing cast of indistinguishable characters and the author's love of flashbacks, the storytelling leaves a lot to be desired, particularly in terms of clarity. We certainly didn't need over a thousand pages of to get here, there were maybe three volumes worth of story--with some stronger structure and development to drive toward the conclusion, it could have been solid. If I'd read a thousand pages of Hellboy or Blueberry, I could have tackled ten or fifteen complete story arcs spanning decades and continents.
Sure, we get a lot of foreshadowing, but that isn't the same as actually exploring how events came about or what they meant. It’s just characters constantly referencing their background, then getting interrupted before they can explain it. It’s such a patently artificial way to maintain tension.
All in all, Scott Pilgrim feels very much like a mid-level webcomic. It centers on the author's life and experiences, harping on in-jokes and hobbies, but lacks the character, narrative structure, wit, or art that sets good webcomics apart. It does improve, by the last volume, into something more enjoyable to read, but it’s not enough to make up for all the time spent getting to that point.
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The jokes lack subtlety and insight, the characters are consistently annoying, the art's rudimentary, everyone looks the same (except for their hair, which the author constantly changes, anyways). I've heard some people blame manga/anime inspiration for the similarity of O'Malley's characters, but there are plenty of manga artists who have mastered the art of caricature, and use it to great effect. Also like a web comic archive, it gradually gets better--but not quickly enough.
It's reminiscent of Nick and Nora's Infinite Playlist, a movie I tired of about halfway through. Both of them are trying to be cutesy, quirky, ironic, and referential, but it's all very familiar stuff. I never felt there was a quick, complex mind at the helm--and with modern, referential humor, it's all about the delivery and the originality.
Then again, by this point, quirky internet humor has entered the mainstream and lost much of its punch, like Jerry Seinfeld talking about airline food: now everyone’s doing it. It's like your friend who thinks saying 'remember that episode of Family Guy?' is the same as telling a good joke. Both Nick and Nora's and Scott Pilgrim were by-the-book quirky. None of it is going to strike you as interesting or witty if you’re the least bit familiar with internet subcultures and humor already.
Both also had somewhat unsettling homophobic overtones, playing off all the gay characters and same-sex romance for jokes--and cute lesbians for titillation. It's nice to have more openly gay characters in YA media, but not as thin, walking punchlines. It was worse in 'Infinite Playlist', but there was still a persistent undercurrent of homosocial discomfort.
The book was also very reminiscent of the splendid anime FLCL, from the mysterious, begoggled, badass delivery girl arriving to complicate the (sex) life of our oblivious jerk protagonist to the naive, sweet waif caught up in it all--the seemingly normal world invaded by magic, twisting our expectations of reality. Yet unlike FLCL, this was not a rollicking, take-no-prisoners, psychedelic reimagining of the genre, it was just a dull story about annoying people occasionally perked up by in-joke fight scenes. The musical obsession was another shared thread, right down to the same characteristic Rickenbacker.
It's very soap opera: who is dating who, who used to date who, which would be more intriguing if I were interested in the characters. Instead, they’re the sort of dull, naive, self-absorbed people that I spent high school and college avoiding, right down to the fratboy favorite lipstick lesbian poster on the wall and an undying reverence for whatever bands Pitchfork told you to listen to this week. They value music solely because of their emotional reactions to it, but they act as if this somehow makes them special, as if their emotional connection to a particular song were somehow more valid than the average jugglette's.
Then there's the obsession with the rarity of music: collecting unknown bands and staking claim, which is a symptom of the fact that most trendy people don't recognize the difference between a cause and its effect. It's true that a knowledgeable musicologist or musical historian will be familiar with a number of 'undiscovered' bands, but deliberately seeking out unknowns will not make you more musically sophisticated--most unknown bands are unknown for good reason.
Scott himself is a mess, and yet without being either sympathetic or complex. He's definitely got that Holden Caulfield 'woe-is-me, it's not my fault I'm an asshole' vibe. As it goes on, it resembles a harem anime more and more, where all women fight over Scott all the time, despite the fact that he's a self-absorbed loser.
Now, some authors, like Nabokov or Anna Kavan, have succeeded in presenting these awful, unpleasant characters in a way that reveals their natures, the psychology which drives them to be so self-centered and thoughtless--helping us to understand these characters, and even sympathize with them, while still disliking them. It’s difficult to do, but certainly possible.
Unfortunately, there's very little introspection in Scott Pigrim, the story touches superficially on a lot of parts of childhood, especially trends, but almost never turns a critical eye on them. Everything is taken for granted, not only by the characters, but seemingly by the author. Other characters do sometimes get angry at Scott, or criticize his behavior, but this isn't the same as a commentary on the sort of person he is--we don't see him change, or suffer more than temporary drawbacks.
There's something funny about a story centered on character interaction that eschews psychological progressions or conflict resolution in favor of videogame powerups and ninja battles. But then, how many self-absorbed videogame-loving assholes wish that sex and relationships were acquired and maintained by minigames and xp grinding?
Each issue is incrementally better than the last: the story becomes more streamlined, and O'Malley takes more artistic chances, usually to the general benefit of the comic, eventually hiring on other artists who really improve the style--though in all the reviews, no one ever mentions Kantz and Ancheta. Then again, it's not like they get billing on the cover, which is a pretty disingenuous move by O'Malley: he brings in some talented artists to improve his book and he gets all the credit.
Between the ever-growing cast of indistinguishable characters and the author's love of flashbacks, the storytelling leaves a lot to be desired, particularly in terms of clarity. We certainly didn't need over a thousand pages of to get here, there were maybe three volumes worth of story--with some stronger structure and development to drive toward the conclusion, it could have been solid. If I'd read a thousand pages of Hellboy or Blueberry, I could have tackled ten or fifteen complete story arcs spanning decades and continents.
Sure, we get a lot of foreshadowing, but that isn't the same as actually exploring how events came about or what they meant. It’s just characters constantly referencing their background, then getting interrupted before they can explain it. It’s such a patently artificial way to maintain tension.
All in all, Scott Pilgrim feels very much like a mid-level webcomic. It centers on the author's life and experiences, harping on in-jokes and hobbies, but lacks the character, narrative structure, wit, or art that sets good webcomics apart. It does improve, by the last volume, into something more enjoyable to read, but it’s not enough to make up for all the time spent getting to that point.
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Speaking of webcomics - did you like rice boy?
I think a large chunk of why I enjoyed these comics was because they took place in the town I grew up in and a lot of the locations depicted don't exist anymore. So the setting is a bit of a snapshot of my youth.
I generally avoid Millar's stuff--it's so sophomoric and wannabe-edgy. The thing in Wanted where he's got his not-Eminem character yelling at the reader about fucking them in the ass--just stupid.
cardulelia said: "Speaking of webcomics - did you like rice boy?"
Never read it--I'll have to check it out.
Colton said: "I'm liking the consolidated review Keely, it's a lot more focused."
Yeah, after recent comments, I noticed there was now a full version up that I hadn't rated.
Rocko52 said: "It's great to see you write a new review!"
Well, it's not really new--I just cut and pasted together bits from my reviews of the individual volumes.
Anja said: "a large chunk of why I enjoyed these comics was because they took place in the town I grew up in"
Yeah, in one of the reviews of the individual volumes, I talk about how the best part of the comic was recognizing places I'd been in Toronto as a kid.
Chris said: "Are there -any- webcomics that don't fall prey to these same patterns and tropes?"
Yeah, a few--I like Whomp!, A Lesson is Learned but the Damage is Irreversible, Hark! A Vagrant, Perry Bible Fellowship, SMBC, Hyperbole and a Half, and Oglaf (NSFW).
Shadowjac said: "I don't find the characters to horribly hard to distinguish, but I read so much manga I'm use to just looking at hair"
Yeah, it's not terrible, though he does often change the hair, too--so then that doesn't work. It's more the fact that it's all same face, that he isn't really designing different, interesting characters, which makes the art quite boring.
For a long time the Studio's main income source (by a lot) was Evangelion merchandise. (Eva is possibly one of the largest anime in Japan ever, commercially speaking) After Hideaki Anno, the creator of Eva, moved the rights to Studio Khara, (made up of former Gainax animators) Gainax was living on borrowed time and was only allowed to have a cut of the profits. Around 2010 there was some big falling out between Anno and Gainax, as a result Gainax was cut off completely from the Evangelion money, and with most of their other shows performing poorly it left them in a dire state. The end result is that the studio has gotten to the point where they're selling off several of their classic series to other studios in desperation - Production I.G. (Studio behind Ghost in the Shell - Attack on Titan - etc) was the group who bought the rights to FLCL and is making the remake.
Gainax's fate is a sad one, although most of the old guard of animators & newer talent from there have moved onto Anno's Studio Khara or gone along with Studio Trigger, a new studio also made of ex-Gainax staff. I honestly don't have much hope for an FLCL remake if I'm being honest, I don't doubt it will have high production values considering this is Production I.G., but a surreal classic like that I don't think will translate well into the modern stagnant anime scene. Well whatever happens, we can still watch the original.
(Also - I haven't read your other Scott Pilgrim reviews so it's all new to me ha)
Yeah, not sure what to think about that. I guess I feel like the first series really captured everything it needed to--not sure there's anywhere else to go from there.
In regards to the remake, I'm also of the mind that there's not much left to say thematically or what have you - though I doubt that's anywhere near the forefront of the producer's goals. I once heard someone describe anime and its creative field as "incestuous," and I feel like that's becoming more and more the case, for better or worse.
Certainly original, thought that would first require wading through all of their other stuff in search of the good bits, so I doubt I'll ever get there.
"Yeah, in one of the reviews of the individual volumes, I talk about how the best part of the comic was recognizing places I'd been in Toronto as a kid."
Oh! I didn't notice your individual reviews. I'll be sure to check that out.
Oh! I didn't notice your individual reviews. I'll be sure to check that out.
Well, most of what's in the individual reviews is summarized here, but there are a few differences here and there.
It doesn’t make much sense to pick up Scott Pilgrim and expect a thorough in-depth exploration of the human condition. It’s just a piece of entertainment. It doesn’t pretend to be anything more. Maybe the fan base tries to make it out to be greater; I don’t know. But that’s just kind of what fanbases do.
Nick and Norah was an interesting comparison, and I sort of see what you’re saying. But then again I’ve only read the book and not watched the movie, so again there I’m not sure if your point is all that valid. It at least makes sense on the context of the book. But movie adaptations are, you know, in general pretty terrible.
And the final point and probably the most telling one is that you don’t like the characters. And they might not be outright likable people, but the way you structure your arguments against them makes it sound like you have personal beef with real life people who are like this. You have problems with their subculture of music and casual sex and relationships, which I understand if that bothers you on a personal level. However, it’s not a very responsible way of forming criticism for art on any medium.
When I see a dumb review, I usually arch my eyebrows for a second and move on, but your writing suggests a competent mind. So I thought I ought to give a bit of pushback in order to wake you from your smug complacency and tell you you should know better than to criticize a work on personal biases of character qualities. It’s almost as shallow as saying you don’t like The Great Gatsby because you hate gossips and liars, and everyone in that book is at least one of those things, instead of considering the quality of writing, theme, historical significance, author’s intentions, and etc. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not suggesting Scott Pilgrim is Great Gatsby on any level.
And in line with that, it’s just the cherry on top to see that you don’t like the author. Maybe he did a scummy thing, and I totally get your urge in wanting to expose what he did while you’re at it, so you can appear well-informed and righteous. But in this type of review, it seems pretty out of place and a bit too emotionally driven, especially when the rest of your voice is fairly objective. It’s just not very good writing.
If a literary critic couldn’t help himself and said Farewell To Arms is also not good because Hemingway was a misogynist, he (the critic) would be laughed off the proverbial stage. (Regardless of whether he made other good points or not)
I also hope you understand I’m pointing this all out because it sounds like you may have a lot of dumb people around you, and that’s annoying. But it also might mean you never get pushback on your opinions because everyone’s intimidated by you, at least on the topics you choose. So, consider this a friendly little tussle.
