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The 19th Wife by David Ebershoff
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did not like it
bookshelves: hf, religion, usa, audible-us, mystery, relationships, disliked, returned

What can I say?

I really hated the ending. Was it an OK book? No, it really wasn’t, but I did learn some stuff about the Latter Day Saints, or the Mormons as they are also called, and also their split with the Firsts. Here is what bothered me:

I disliked the mixing of a modern mystery paralleled with an exposition of facts about the history of the Mormon Church. Therein lies a discussion of the destructive role of polygamy, a too sweet story about a contemporary gay relationship and the resolution of a murder mystery. The historical information about the Mormon Church is extensive and is done in an “inventive” way. The reader is given quotes and speeches and parts of a doctoral work on Mormon beliefs, including a study of one prophet’s wife, Ann Eliza Young, who became an apostate and almost single handedly worked to for the abolition of polygamy in the Mormon Church. These historical tidbits are presented as facts, but they are in fact fictional. They are not real documents, quotes or excerpts but they tell the truth. Even a fictive quote from Wikipedia is added. These “historical chapters” chop up the modern day mystery thread. In the chapters devoted to the historical information, some of the texts were meant to be documentary in nature - they were so dry! The chapters devoted to the present day used acronyms that I had difficulty figuring out, but I am not American. I had to stop the narration and think – what do those letters stand for! If one is to pick ONE central theme, it is the destructive role of polygamy.

The book hopped all over the place: not only between the two different story threads but also different points in time. This was confusing. I listened to the audiobook, which used several narrators. You would think that the use of several narrators would make it easier to understand who was who, but no, this didn’t help. One chapter I listened to the entire thing and only at the end did it finally become apparent who had been speaking. One of the women narrators was better than the others. I actually started getting absorbed into the story, but then wham o, the focus flipped to another time and place.

The book was too long and repetitive. It could definitely have been edited. The reader is told the same thing by several people and in several versions. One chapter, where Brigham Young was in prison, we had already been told what would happen, and yet I had to listen to about 50 minutes of his boring blab to come to a conclusion I already was informed of. Talk about “unreliable narrators”! This author doesn’t pull the technique off in an engaging manner. Ughhhh. David Ebershoff is certainly no Nabokov! I really came to hate Brigham Young! I saw little nuance in his character, other than that he perhaps started with high ideals as a youth, but these disappeared with age.

I should note that while others love mystery novels, I don’t. Maybe that further explains my dislike….

All that I can say in terms of praise is that occasionally the author had some great sentences. Like: “Memory is a scrap of lace. It is full of holes”. That, I liked and there are others. The description of the desert landscape, in all its colors, was beautiful.

So the book isn’t all terrible, but it wasn’t OK either, and I was left with a sour taste given the ending.
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Reading Progress

January 10, 2010 – Shelved
January 10, 2010 – Shelved as: hf
January 10, 2010 – Shelved as: religion
January 10, 2010 – Shelved as: usa
March 6, 2012 – Shelved as: audible-us
June 8, 2012 – Started Reading
June 8, 2012 – Shelved as: mystery
June 11, 2012 – Shelved as: relationships
June 11, 2012 – Shelved as: disliked
June 12, 2012 – Finished Reading
January 7, 2013 – Shelved as: returned

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message 1: by Lisa (new) - added it

Lisa Vegan Chrissie, Great review!

I love that quote about memory.


Chrissie Yes, I do too. Thank you, Lisa, for telling me you liked the review!


message 3: by Chris (new) - rated it 2 stars

Chris I also listened to this book, and while I didn't have a problem with the narration, the book had WAY too much going on.


Chrissie Chris, I must have been unclear. I didn't have trouble with the audio narration either, I simply thought that having several narrators, as this audiobook has, would make it easier than usual to keep people straight. It wasn't easier than usual. I think that was simply because the book was too jumpy and disconnected, "too much going", as you put it.

I actually very much enjoyed the narrator who read Ann Eliza's biographical sections. I also enjoyed the narrator who spoke the parts of Jordan Scott. This was the first time I have had an audiobook with several narrators. Do you have experience with this? What I have learned is that it doesn't really help having several if the book itself is confusing.

More and more books are being made into audios. Author's should think about that when they write them!

I am sorry I was confusing.

What did you think of how it ended with Jordan, Tom and Johnny? A bit of a fairytale ending!


message 5: by Chris (new) - rated it 2 stars

Chris Just realized that my comment made it sounds like I was talking about the narration, which wasn't what I really meant, and why I shouldn't post comments first thing in the morning.
Yes, I thought the ending was really silly.
I did like the narrators' voices and thought Anna Eliza's story was interesting. If you're interested in the topic, I highly recomment Under the Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith. My GR list shows I read the print version, although I could have sworn I listened to it.
If you like stories with multiple narrators, my alltime favorite is English Passengers. It's another book with a lot of different stories going on, but much easier to follow. And I will never forget the voices of Peevay or Illiam Quillian Kewley.


Chrissie Thanks, Chris. I added "Under the Banner of Heaven". The "English Passengers" has been on my lists for ages, but the audio is only available to me in an abridged form, and that I am not interested in.

Chris, I am new to audios. Is it good with multiple narrators?


message 7: by Lisa (new) - added it

Lisa Vegan Chrissie, I also liked Under the Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith. It's not about run of the mill Mormons though, but about Fundamentalist Mormons. Very good though if I'm remembering correctly.


message 8: by Chris (new) - rated it 2 stars

Chris I haven't listened to a lot of multiple-narrator books but the ones I have listened to are good. They're almost essential for books told from multiple points of view. No matter how good the narrator is, it's pretty difficult to do several characters all speaking in the first person. As you listen to more books you'll come to find what you do and don't like and certain narrators will become favorites.


message 9: by Lisa (last edited 12 juin 2012 21:09) (new) - added it

Lisa Vegan Chrissie, I know you're not interested in Harry Potter Boxed Set (are all 7 books in this box set?) But my American friends who listen to the American audio editions of these books, think the narrator is remarkable with all his voices. The British narrator also has a good reputation.

ETA: Nope, it's 1-6. Sometimes it's hard to find the right edition to add. Anyway, all 7 books the narrator is supposed to be amazing.


Chrissie Chris and Lisa, in the book they speak of the "Firsts" as having kept polygamy while the Mormons say they no longer support it. Are the Firsts one of the Fundamentalist groups? That confused me. Lisa, I saw that you had read "Under the Banner" and also thought it was good. I listened to the beginning of the audio and I must say it sounded quite difficult to read. It starts with blood everywhere.

So several narrators could very well be helpful. It certainly didn't help here, but that was the book's fault. If more books are going to be made for audios, the authors ought to keep the time lines straighter. I think.

Lisa, I am in an audio group and MANY say, as you have, that they enjoy the narration of Harry Potter. I still do not think it is for me.

I must say I NEVER thought I would be so hooked on audios.

Chris, it is fun knowing another person with the same name......


message 11: by Lisa (new) - added it

Lisa Vegan Chrissie, Yes, it's been a long time since the official Mormon church supported polygamy, at least publicly. But there are all sorts of splinter groups and cults that identify as Mormon where polygamy is part of what they believe.


message 12: by Chris (new) - rated it 2 stars

Chris The "Firsts" is the commonly used term for a group known as the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (often abbreviated FLDS), although there may be other groups that also call themselves the "Firsts" as well. If you live outside the states, you may not be aware there was a massive raid on them a couple of years ago and many children were forcibly removed because of concerns about child abuse and especially sexual abuse on young girls. However, after a protracted legal battle the children were returned to their families. Their leader, Warren Jeffs (who seems very much like the leader in the 19th Wife), is currently serving a prison term but is also said to be still leading "his people" from jail.

As for the Harry Potter audio books - THEY ARE THE BEST EVER!!! I am told that Stephen Fry's UK version is brilliant, but of course we got the Jim Dale version over here and I can't imagine anyone doing a better job. They are magnificent. I think Dale has won just about every award there is for these and deservedly so. My only problem is that he is so much the voice of Harry Potter to me that I can't listen to him read anything else!
:-)


message 13: by Lisa (new) - added it

Lisa Vegan Chris wrote: "My only problem is that he is so much the voice of Harry Potter to me that I can't listen to him read anything else!
:-) "


:-)


message 14: by Susan (new) - rated it 5 stars

Susan Ha! I really enjoyed this one.


Chrissie Officially, the Mormons stopped supporting polygamy in 1890, but that is only officially. It was Church President Woodruff who terminated it in a Manifesto. In reality, both split off groups and Mormons do continue to practice it. Very difficult to prosecute offenders! I do get confused by all these names for the split off groups.Thanks for explaining. In Sweden they are called Jehovah's Witnesses. I wish they would all stick to one name.

I will have to check out what else Jim Dale and Stephen Fry have narrated. I wonder if I haven't already done this when the discussion came up in the Audio Group.....I think I found nothing that really drew me. My head is a sieve.

Susan, don't worry. It doesn't matter. People just do not react all the same way to a given book. What did YOU think of that ending concerning Jordan, Tom and Johnny? It is dangerous to end a book badly....it leaves a bitter taste right before you are going to draw a final conclusion for the book! I was going to give this more stars, but then I simply couldn't. Then I started thinking of all the time I had suffered through parts. And I alway simply ask myself - was it OK or was it bad or good or very good or amazing. Answering that question is usually pretty easy. Figuring out why I feel as I do is what is hard.

Now I have switched to Scribbling The Cat, and I realize this IS what I like! Excellent writing and excellent narration by Lisette Lecat. I will have to see what else this women has narrated. I know she did the other Fuller books.


message 16: by Susan (new) - rated it 5 stars

Susan Chrissie, it was a while ago that I read this book and I don't remember exactly how Jordan's story ended, and why it bothered you. If I don't remember it, I must have been satisfied with it. Now I'll have to go look at the end again.


Chrissie I forget book details too. It really isn't the main point, but I thought it was so unrealistic. Pure fantasy.


message 18: by Chris (new) - rated it 2 stars

Chris Chrissie wrote: "Officially, the Mormons stopped supporting polygamy in 1890, but that is only officially. It was Church President Woodruff who terminated it in a Manifesto. In reality, both split off groups and Mo..."

How funny you should mention Lisette Lecat! I was trying to remember her name at a party last weekend when we were talking about audiobooks. She was wonderful as narrator of Reading Lolita in Tehran and The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency.


Chrissie When I look for audiobooks with the narraator Lisette Lecat I get only "Isabella: The She-wolf of France" and Purple Hibiscusand Scribbling The Cat. Not the ones you mention. Typical, what is available in Belgium is much less than those in the US! Audible is much cheaper than elsewhere, so I buy my audiobooks exclusively there. Glad you now remember her name. She is truly talented.


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